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By Phil Hecken & A.P.

Last weekend, in a teensy item I had buried after the main post, I had a little snippet from someone who had rated the 10 Worst Unis in football. Specifically, here’s what I said:

I don’t usually pay much mind to “top 10 best” or “worst” lists of uniforms. I mean, we here on UW should have the final word on that sort of thing anyway, right? But Ricko sent me this one. This one is a head shaker. Plus the guy who wrote it is either a homophobe or a bad comedian. Probably both. But check out the choices and the rationales. Here’s a typical quote: “The Dolphins uniforms should be San Fransisco’s uniforms. It’s hard to imagine a uniform that better represents fruit than these.” Right. Not quite sure how old it is, but it’s definitely not from this season. Still, this gets a huge “WTF?”

I didn’t think too much about it, but I received an E-mail this week from one of UW’s stalwart posters, we’ll call him “A.P.” (for ‘Anonymous Poster’) — why he wanted to remain anonymous, I’m not sure, but he did request the anonymity for the purposes of this post. (He’ll reveal himself to you once we get our results). What results, you may ask? Well, A.P. took me to task over my claim that “we here on UW should have the final word on that sort of thing anyway.” As such, he proposed that we come up with a “Ten Worst/Best” list, based on the opinions of the UW faithful. In my reply, I said, “well, if you can come up with a system, and you do the tabluations, I’m up for it.”

So that’s how this got started. I threw down a gauntlet, as it were, and now it’s up to you guys to pick it up. So, without further ado, here’s what A.P. has set up:

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Hey, I’m just trying to make this thing as “scientific” as possible. I don’t want to skew the results somehow. I assure you I’m not hiding my identity as part of some nefarious plot. Anyway…

From time to time, someone will publish a list of best or worst uniforms. Invariably, we the Uni Watch community will strongly disagree with the author’s assessments. So we figured what better way to compile a “definitive” list of how the uniforms stack up than to reach out to the Uni Watch readers? Since the NFL season is in full swing, let’s start there. We want to know what you think of each team’s primary home uniform. That means dark jerseys for everybody except the Cowboys, Redskins and Dolphins — no alternates and no throwbacks.

So what do we want from you? Just complete a short online survey. It should only take a minute or two of your time. You’ll need to enter a password to access it — greendot.

1) Rate each team from 0 to 5 points (0 being the worst, 5 the best). You can use these photo collages, broken out by division, to help guide you: AFC East, AFC North, AFC South, AFC West, NFC East, NFC North, NFC South, and NFC West.

2) You don’t have to use every number and you can use each number as many times as you want. For example, if you think every NFL uni is garbage, feel free to rate them all a zero (0). Or if your opinion is that every team looks outstanding, go ahead and give them each a five (5).

3) Please mention the uniform that you think is the best and the one that you think is the worst. If you want to, include a brief explanation why. It’s possible you’ll be quoted, so you may wish to put some thought into this.

4) Please tell us what your favorite team is. If you don’t have one or if you’re not a fan of the NFL in general, go ahead and tell us that.

5) THIS IS OPTIONAL: tell us your age, gender and where you live.

Again, the survey can be found here and greendot is the password.

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Sounds simple, right? Sure it is. What we’re hoping to do, obviously, is to figure out the ranking of ALL NFL teams, so by placing a numerical value beside each one, it will make tabulation of them much easier and much more scientific. I’m not real good with math, so A.P. will be handling the duties of figuring out the “best and worst”. I figure there are close to 800 members and a lot of random readers, and I’m hoping everyone who sees this post will take a few minutes to complete the survey.

At the conclusion of the survey, we’ll be back with our “un-official official UW NFL Best and Worst List.” OK? OK!!!

We can do this! Just assign a numerical value next to each team. Tell us your favorite team, and give a one or two sentence explanation of what you consider to the the “best” and “worst” uniform in the NFL. If you want to give any other info, that’s completely up to you.

Awesome. I’ll keep you guys apprised of the status of this next week and likely bug the shit out of you probably will need to remind those who haven’t sent in their surveys to please do so.

Thanks, and a big thanks to A.P. for not only the suggestion but for setting the whole thing up.

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5 & 1a

Our man in the street, Jim Vilk brings you his “Top 5” Best and one WORST college football uni matchup from yesterday:

5. California/Oregon – Who knows … Ducks may make the list again, but Cal won’t.

4. Vanderbilt/Rice – Stars and Old English add a little class to these helmets.

3. Ohio University/Tennessee – MAC schools CAN compete … looks-wise.

2. Southern Miss./Kansas – Not traditional, but very colorful.

1. Indiana/Michigan – Hail to the victors of this week’s list.

And a tie for the baddie:

1a). Miami/Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

and

1b). Tennessee State/Florida A&M – Just think…A&M plays Miami in a couple of weeks.

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the end is

Well, it’s finally here. The oft-rumored lime jersey Paul wrote about, Paulie Soto mocked up, and Mike Princip hosted on Greenglare, is here. And the Seahawks will wear it tomorrow, against the Bears. We just didn’t know whether the numbers would be white nor with what pants the neon lime would be paired. But now we know, thanks to this leaked Twitter pic. So it’ll be white numbers with blue pants. I suppose it could be worse. I’ll reserve all judgment until I actually see the jersey on the players, the field and the lighting. I’m sure we’ll all be near a TV around 1:00 PDT (that’s 4:00 pm eastern 3:00 pm central & 2:00 pm mountain). The game’s on FOX (and there are only 2 games on Fox at that time, the Bears versus the Seahawks, or the Saints versus the Bills). All I know is I better get that game. Have your goggles ready.

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Ricko’s running out of Sunday Benchies, so we’re gonna run one from the way-back machine today. But it’s a good one. Bub’s star wide receiver Mick is having one of those days all weekend warriors dream of. So, as you dream of starring on the football field as your team plays today, live vicariously though Mick in this Sunday Benchies. And, any similarity between Mick and Ricko is purely coincidental.

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scoreboard

Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: Once again, today’s scoreboard is brought to us by SlimandSlam. However, I believe the date he gave me for this was not correct (or, more likely, I wrote it down incorrectly) — and since I normally play the game (if I don’t know the answer) along with you guys, if I had the time, I’m sure I could figure it out ahead of time — but I don’t, so I can’t. So I’m leaving it up to you to solve it for us. As always, please don’t post the actual answer, but use the link (which will contain the answer) to Retrosheet or Baseball Almanac. Date, location and final score, please. Ready? Guess The Game.

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ducks unis

UW #1 Seahawks Fan Michael Princip has been tracking the Oregon Ducks and all of their 2,456 possible uniform combinations this season. He’ll be updating it after each game. Yesterday the U of Zero Ducks provided us with a lovely throwback and a win to boot! (A 42-3 asskickin’, no less.) Only one problem, though: Sweatbox problems continue to plague Nike. So, Here’s The Updated Ducktracker. Thanks Mike!

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sweatbox

Ah, those Nike sweatboxes: Last weekend, we began to see the curious phenomenon of the “Sweatbox” — it wasn’t the first occurrence, but we noticed. We even gave it a name. Paul even remarked on the “problem” in his ESPN column (scroll down to “College Football”). Well, yesterday, it wasn’t just Oregon in their nifty throwbacks who encountered the problem. Sometimes it’s the big “square” in the middle of the stomach, or just the back and sides of the jersey, but it’s obviously caused by different materials Nike is using to piece together their jerseys. Depending on the team playing, the sweatlines make a two-tone appearance on the uni. It’s like a rorschach test of weird squares and right angles. It seems few teams are immune to the two-tone terror. Just not a good look … oh wait…that last one really was an intentionally two tone. Yeesh.

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WOW…now that was a post. If you haven’t already done so, please be sure to vote in the UW Best/Worst NFL uni poll. … Bad Newz for the Chiefs today? … Titans versus Oilers (Jets versus Titans) in AFL throwbacks … Hawks in neon snot … just a full day any way you slice it. G’mar chatimah tovah to all those observing. And, I’m not closing the contest, but this is the last time I’ll link back to it — if you want to participate in the Design A Cap Contest, just click the linkie and follow the instructions.

Have a great Sunday everyone!

 
  
 
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    Correction on the Seahawks’ hideous neon-green alts: the link above is incorrect, and it’s actually the opposite. The pants are dark “Seahawks Navy” pants with the lighter “Seahawks Blue” border on either side of the green stripe. The sleeves are the standard Seahawks Blue. See link

    Guess the Scoreboard: link Ebbets Field, Brooklyn, NY. Sept. 30, 1956. Final Score: Pittsburgh 6, Brooklyn 8.

    Great picture of a game-saving catch by the Duke of Flatbush, stranding a runner on 2nd to end the inning.

    [quote comment=”350352″]Correction on the Seahawks’ hideous neon-green alts: the link above is incorrect, and it’s actually the opposite. The pants are dark “Seahawks Navy” pants with the lighter “Seahawks Blue” border on either side of the green stripe. The sleeves are the standard Seahawks Blue. See link

    Interesting. So new pants and new jersey. Wonder why they did that. That’s going to look a bit screwy with the lighter blue helmet.

    Also, when do we get a best/worst road uniform survey?

    I’m sure the results of that would be different than the results for home uniforms. For example, I sorta like the Bills home uniforms but I think the road version is a big steaming pile of mismatched garbage.

    [quote comment=”350355″]Also, when do we get a best/worst road uniform survey?

    I’m sure the results of that would be different than the results for home uniforms. For example, I sorta like the Bills home uniforms but I think the road version is a big steaming pile of mismatched garbage.[/quote]
    I don’t want to speak for Phil, but it depends on the response to this one. So far, we’ve already goten 58 completed surveys, so I’d say the chances of a follow-up with the road unis is pretty good.

    Next weekend may be too soon, but maybe…?

    [quote comment=”350355″]Also, when do we get a best/worst road uniform survey?

    I’m sure the results of that would be different than the results for home uniforms. For example, I sorta like the Bills home uniforms but I think the road version is a big steaming pile of mismatched garbage.[/quote]

    I’d love to see this for each college footbal conference as well.

    Since CBS has the doubleheader today (I think), my guess is very few people outside the Seattle or Chicago areas get that game.

    Check here: link to see if you get it.

    Well maybe the glowstick jerseys won’t be that bad…….good chance that’s a NO. At least the Bears will be looking sharp & offer relief on the eyes.

    I dont like link current uniform, but I DO love their number font, its modern, but I think it flows perfectly with their logo.
    Some of my all time favorite uniforms have to be the Florida Gators (link, link, or link)…
    or the former Cal Bears link especially in white over white with the blue/gold and of course the throwbacks they wore a few years back for charity.
    As for NFL, you cant get much better than the Minnesota Vikings link yes, link especially considering their new unis. AND (last one), the link

    [quote comment=”350359″]Jim & Phil:

    So Division 1-AA schools are eligible for the Top 5 list?[/quote]

    I’d like to showcase them every now and then (Phil insisted on having TSU/FAMU today), but it’s a lot harder to find pics. If you see a good matchup and can get us a pic, let us know. I do try to keep it to the big boys for convenience’s sake, but I’d show a D-III game if it looked good.

    [quote comment=”350362″]How about Cornell-Yale as a top 5 matchup…looked fantastic to me!

    link

    Now when I was trying to find a shot of that game ESPN wasn’t posting any. What time did you come across that one? Must have been after I gave up and went with what I had. Thanks – we’ll give them a very honorable mention today.

    If your cable system carries NFL RedZone, you can see all the other games going on at a particular time, as they bounce from game to game depending on what’s happening. So if your local station isn’t showing the visual carnage of the Seahawks in green, NFL RedZone will show you more of it than a stray highlight here and there. In this instance, thatay not be a good thing…

    The one thing this city has done in the past year is go crazy for the Sounders, which has a similar colour scheme to the Hawks… and with all the “Rave Green” that fills the stands for the football with the round ball… I think the Hawks might have believed they were onto something.

    I remember buying the “Rave Green” over the “Capital Blue” Sounders jersey, thinking “I would never wear that other than on gameday.” But it grew on me. (I know UW readers – you’re saying like a fungus.) To the point that when they finally wore the blue kit, I wondered when I turned on the TV if I had the wrong game.

    It will be interesting to see what comes of it… if this football follows the other… get ready for Neon Orange (a top colour for goalies) and a high viz yellow. Interesting indeed.

    So, the seahawks are doing the green thing… YEAH BABY!!!!! F@#%ING SWEET!!!! I AM HONESTLY IN F@#%ING LOVE WITH THESE SWEET A$$ UNI’S!!!! Sucks to be a hater now, doesn’t it?????

    What was up with the Quarterback, and a few assistant coaches PINK hands last nite during the PENN STATE/IOWA game? The broadcasters mentioned something about the dye off the football. But I’m not buying that. If anything, if it was dye off the football, wouldn’t it be more brown than PINK???

    [quote comment=”350356″]I love this blog, but plagiarism is not cool. You can come up with your own header.

    link

    No shit, Sherlock.

    It’s a joke, a design thing, similar to if Phil had superimposed “Uni Watch” over “Sports” in the SI nameplate. You see such things done all the time.

    So give it a rest, okay?

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”350364″][quote comment=”350359″]Jim & Phil:

    So Division 1-AA schools are eligible for the Top 5 list?[/quote]

    I’d like to showcase them every now and then (Phil insisted on having TSU/FAMU today), but it’s a lot harder to find pics. If you see a good matchup and can get us a pic, let us know. I do try to keep it to the big boys for convenience’s sake, but I’d show a D-III game if it looked good.[/quote]
    Damn. I wish I had realized that last weekend. I would have suggested FAMU/Howard for dishonorable mention. I was watching a bit of it when my wife walked in the room and started asking “Why are you watching some rand… OH MY GOD! THOSE UNIFORMS ARE AWFUL!” (“…om college game” is presumably how that sentence would have finished.)

    [quote comment=”350363″]I dont like link current uniform, but I DO love their number font, its modern, but I think it flows perfectly with their logo.
    Some of my all time favorite uniforms have to be the Florida Gators (link, link, or link)…
    or the former Cal Bears link especially in white over white with the blue/gold and of course the throwbacks they wore a few years back for charity.
    As for NFL, you cant get much better than the Minnesota Vikings link yes, link especially considering their new unis. AND (last one), the link[/quote]

    I’d love to see the Gators don the orange jersey/white pants from the Galen Hall/Emmitt Smith years now and then!! Just don’t bring the astroturf back to the Swamp. GAWD was that like a roaster oven back then or what eh?…espicially in September!

    [quote comment=”350367″]The one thing this city has done in the past year is go crazy for the Sounders, which has a similar colour scheme to the Hawks… and with all the “Rave Green” that fills the stands for the football with the round ball… I think the Hawks might have believed they were onto something.

    I remember buying the “Rave Green” over the “Capital Blue” Sounders jersey, thinking “I would never wear that other than on gameday.” But it grew on me. (I know UW readers – you’re saying like a fungus.) To the point that when they finally wore the blue kit, I wondered when I turned on the TV if I had the wrong game.

    It will be interesting to see what comes of it… if this football follows the other… get ready for Neon Orange (a top colour for goalies) and a high viz yellow. Interesting indeed.[/quote]

    I love those Sounders unis (except for the ad), so I like that the ‘Hawks will look like them. And I’d like to see some brighter colors return to football. You don’t have to wear dark or black to be tough.

    I love the survey idea and am looking forward to the results. Not to add more work for this volunteer project, but will we get to see more than simply a top/bottom list? Like maybe some aggregate scores for best and worst divisions (best: NFC-N; worst: NFC-S)?

    [quote comment=”350369″]What was up with the Quarterback, and a few assistant coaches PINK hands last nite during the PENN STATE/IOWA game? The broadcasters mentioned something about the dye off the football. But I’m not buying that. If anything, if it was dye off the football, wouldn’t it be more brown than PINK???[/quote]

    A bit of brown-orange dye from a new, wet (which they certainly were last night), leather ball looks pinkish orange on skin. Remember, the dye doesn’t come off the ball at its full intensity, either. Just enough to discolor your hands when it combines with the natural skin tone.

    —Ricko

    How many here actually SAW the Orlando Thunder play in person or on TV? Or the U of Hawaii when they basketball team wore that color green?

    Just sayin’, it’s bright, but not as bad as you think.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”350375″][quote comment=”350369″]What was up with the Quarterback, and a few assistant coaches PINK hands last nite during the PENN STATE/IOWA game? The broadcasters mentioned something about the dye off the football. But I’m not buying that. If anything, if it was dye off the football, wouldn’t it be more brown than PINK???[/quote]

    A bit of brown-orange dye from a new, wet (which they certainly were last night), leather ball looks pinkish orange on skin. Remember, the dye doesn’t come off the ball at its full intensity, either. Just enough to discolor your hands when it combines with the natural skin tone.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Thanks RICKO!! You’re the King!

    [quote comment=”350377″]How many here actually SAW the Orlando Thunder play in person or on TV? Or the U of Hawaii when they basketball team wore that color green?

    Just sayin’, it’s bright, but not as bad as you think.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    What about the Notre Dame men’s basketball team from the early 90’s that went with the neon green unis? Wait a second…let me grab my Tim Tebow barf-bag! BUUUUIIIICCCKKKKKKK!!!

    [quote comment=”350379″][quote comment=”350377″]How many here actually SAW the Orlando Thunder play in person or on TV? Or the U of Hawaii when they basketball team wore that color green?

    Just sayin’, it’s bright, but not as bad as you think.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    What about the Notre Dame men’s basketball team from the early 90’s that went with the neon green unis? Wait a second…let me grab my Tim Tebow barf-bag! BUUUUIIIICCCKKKKKKK!!![/quote]
    Yep. I was just going to mention the same thing. That was the turning point for me. Prior to those unis, I disliked ND but I respected them. After that, they were dead to me.

    [quote comment=”350379″][quote comment=”350377″]How many here actually SAW the Orlando Thunder play in person or on TV? Or the U of Hawaii when they basketball team wore that color green?

    Just sayin’, it’s bright, but not as bad as you think.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    What about the Notre Dame men’s basketball team from the early 90’s that went with the neon green unis? Wait a second…let me grab my Tim Tebow barf-bag! BUUUUIIIICCCKKKKKKK!!![/quote]

    Know what else? If it’s the same color as the Thunder and Hawaii it’s even brighter in person or on TV than it photographs. The “neon” proberties get lost some when it isn’t light going directly to the eye, when there’s an intermediary.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”350377″]How many here actually SAW the Orlando Thunder play in person or on TV? Or the U of Hawaii when they basketball team wore that color green?

    Just sayin’, it’s bright, but not as bad as you think.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I used to watch the Thunder on TV and I loved it. That was even brighter, because you had white helmets and pants. link
    I like how the Seahawks’ dark blue will contrast with the light green. Both looks are cool.

    [quote comment=”350379″][quote comment=”350377″]How many here actually SAW the Orlando Thunder play in person or on TV? Or the U of Hawaii when they basketball team wore that color green?

    Just sayin’, it’s bright, but not as bad as you think.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    What about the Notre Dame men’s basketball team from the early 90’s that went with the neon green unis? Wait a second…let me grab my Tim Tebow barf-bag! BUUUUIIIICCCKKKKKKK!!![/quote]

    You shout out the name of a car when you get sick? ;)

    I like the lime green. I’ve seen a few fashion jerseys and they look good.

    Maybe because the Seahawks normal home set is completely monochrome and its such a dull, drab colour of blue, it’ll be nice to see something a little brighter.

    Recently there’s been some discussion of Lovie Smith’s choice of the link.

    I’m watching the Bears pregame show and they just played an interview that was taped during practice this week and he was wearing link during practice this week.

    Maybe the Bears’ll go throwback today to go up against the rave green. Perhaps link?

    It would truly be a uni clash for the ages.

    I absolutely love those stripes on the Rice pants. Light-dark-light is rare. It looks fantastic on Tulane as well.
    I don’t, however, like it on the Browns. Doesn’t go as well with the helmet stripe.

    Ricko,
    Nice usage of the, “No shit Sherlock…”.
    I’ve often wondered why that hasn’t been said more on this site.

    [quote comment=”350367″]The one thing this city has done in the past year is go crazy for the Sounders, which has a similar colour scheme to the Hawks… and with all the “Rave Green” that fills the stands for the football with the round ball… I think the Hawks might have believed they were onto something.

    I remember buying the “Rave Green” over the “Capital Blue” Sounders jersey, thinking “I would never wear that other than on gameday.” But it grew on me. (I know UW readers – you’re saying like a fungus.) To the point that when they finally wore the blue kit, I wondered when I turned on the TV if I had the wrong game.

    It will be interesting to see what comes of it… if this football follows the other… get ready for Neon Orange (a top colour for goalies) and a high viz yellow. Interesting indeed.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t you say this link is comparable to the orange that those goalies wear?

    [quote comment=”350384″]Twit pic of the green Seahawks uniforms.
    link

    Why not. Not that they look bad, but it is fatigueing to cnstantly have to see the Seahawks Blue/Blue/Blue monochromes. I’m bored with it. Wear White Pants with Blue jerseys once in awhile, or try the Lime Greens.

    End the Monotony.

    [quote comment=”350388″]Wouldn’t you say this link is comparable to the orange that those goalies wear?[/quote]
    I’d say that orange is closer to what the photographer is wearing in link. To me, the goalies’ orange looks much closer to link.

    [quote comment=”350357″][quote comment=”350355″]Also, when do we get a best/worst road uniform survey?

    I’m sure the results of that would be different than the results for home uniforms. For example, I sorta like the Bills home uniforms but I think the road version is a big steaming pile of mismatched garbage.[/quote]
    I don’t want to speak for Phil, but it depends on the response to this one. So far, we’ve already goten 58 completed surveys, so I’d say the chances of a follow-up with the road unis is pretty good.

    Next weekend may be too soon, but maybe…?[/quote]
    A.P. — I am a 6-Sigma Guy at work (think practical application of statistics), and would be happy to volunteer my time to analyze the results. Let me know if you would like some help and application of pretty graphs… Feel free to respond to this in the comments section and I will make sure to get my email to you.

    [quote comment=”350389″][quote comment=”350384″]Twit pic of the green Seahawks uniforms.
    link

    Why not. Not that they look bad, but it is fatigueing to cnstantly have to see the Seahawks Blue/Blue/Blue monochromes. I’m bored with it. Wear White Pants with Blue jerseys once in awhile, or try the Lime Greens.

    End the Monotony.[/quote]

    How about a DECENT color of green…ala CFL’s Sask. Roughriders….oh wait..aren’t the Seahawks a second tier CFL team???

    After I completed the survey and clicked “submit”, it took me back to the screen that asked for a password again. Does that mean my entry wasn’t accepted?

    LEFTOVERS FROM TESTERDAY …

    Orange FOOTBALL Jerseys with Dark Numerals

    The Bears have actually worn TWO different Orange jerseys in recent years. Their regular Orange Alternate, and 4-5 years ago on Thanksgiving they wore Orange “Throwbacks” vs. Dallas – and if I am not hallucinating it was color vs. color as Dallas wore 1960 Navy jerseys/White helmets, Bears wore Orange jerseys, Navy Helmets, White pants.

    Dark numerals on Orange jerseys. Hmmmmm.

    Memphis Grizzlies WFL – the Czonka/Kiick/ Warfield SI Mag cover. Not a bad uni.

    Also, the never-worn Cincy Bengals original “concept” uniform that even made it into NFL promotional materials – shown here on uniawtch a couple of times.

    I really wish the Bengals had adopted that uniform as their originals – rather than the Browns (essentially) rip-off unis. Orange helmet and jersey, dark numerals, White pants – a uniform of their own.

    I understand why Paul Brown might have had a comfort level in dressing his upstart Bengals in the chosen Browns mimic unis, along with his connection to Masillion’s Orange and Black.

    My bigger question – Why release the Orange Helmet/Orange Jersey uni concept – that certainly went far enough along to make it into the released NFL promo materials – and then later switch to the Browns rip-off unis? That to me is the story worth knowing

    IMO, the stories of how and why certain uni choices are made are as interesting, if not more, than what is actually worn. I would love to see some type of article or synopsis of how and why certain nicknames, colors, and uni templates were chosen – above and beyond how the obvious chioces were made.

    [quote comment=”350391″][quote comment=”350357″][quote comment=”350355″]Also, when do we get a best/worst road uniform survey?

    I’m sure the results of that would be different than the results for home uniforms. For example, I sorta like the Bills home uniforms but I think the road version is a big steaming pile of mismatched garbage.[/quote]
    I don’t want to speak for Phil, but it depends on the response to this one. So far, we’ve already goten 58 completed surveys, so I’d say the chances of a follow-up with the road unis is pretty good.

    Next weekend may be too soon, but maybe…?[/quote]
    A.P. — I am a 6-Sigma Guy at work (think practical application of statistics), and would be happy to volunteer my time to analyze the results. Let me know if you would like some help and application of pretty graphs… Feel free to respond to this in the comments section and I will make sure to get my email to you.[/quote]
    Thanks. That sounds great. Phil should be able to get your e-mail address from the comment you posted. I’ll be in touch.

    I’ll be at the Seahawks – Bears game today and I’ll be interested in how these things look in person. I photograph the games on the field, so I’ll be able to see them up close. Let’s just hope the Bears don’t decide to break out the orange alts!!

    [quote comment=”350392″][quote comment=”350389″][quote comment=”350384″]Twit pic of the green Seahawks uniforms.
    link

    Why not. Not that they look bad, but it is fatigueing to cnstantly have to see the Seahawks Blue/Blue/Blue monochromes. I’m bored with it. Wear White Pants with Blue jerseys once in awhile, or try the Lime Greens.

    End the Monotony.[/quote]

    How about a DECENT color of green…ala CFL’s Sask. Roughriders….oh wait..aren’t the Seahawks a second tier CFL team???[/quote]

    But that green already is part of their color scheme. It’s when teams go outside that realm (BFBS) that sucks. So can’t really fault them on that basis.

    —Ricko

    Does anyone know the last time the Cowboys wore their “Unlucky Blue” (aka Super Bowl V) jerseys pre 1988? Not the dark-dark blue, but rathter the silver-blue ones. And what their all time record is in them?

    [quote comment=”350393″]After I completed the survey and clicked “submit”, it took me back to the screen that asked for a password again. Does that mean my entry wasn’t accepted?[/quote]
    Good question. When I completed the survey, I was also prompted for the password at the end. When I resubmitted, I got the “survey completed” message.

    Maybe there’s some kind of time limit and if you exceed that limit, you get re-prompted for the password.

    [quote]when do we get a best/worst road uniform survey?[/quote]

    im sure A.P. is already hard at work on one, but lets see how things go with this one, first

    would imagine in the not too distant future

    [quote]I’d love to see this for each college footbal conference as well.[/quote]

    again, lets see how this first one goes, and take it from there

    [quote]Jim & Phil:

    So Division 1-AA schools are eligible for the Top 5 list?[/quote]

    if they’re as BAD as famu, yes

    [quote]I’d show a D-III game if it looked good[/quote]

    so it’s safe to say, there will be no D-3 matchups down the road then

    I was going through some old football cards last nite, TOPPS 1979 & TOPPS 1980. And noticed the practice so commonly used by TOPPS back then of airbrushing off the decals off the helmets.
    However, in several cards (pics not included) the Rams horns don’t seemed to be brushed out. Rather they had a straight back to them and not a curl up towards the facemask or ear hole. Did the Rams ever wear this type of helmet? Or is this just TOPPS messing with my chemically challenged noggin?

    [quote comment=”350360″]Since CBS has the doubleheader today (I think), my guess is very few people outside the Seattle or Chicago areas get that game.

    Check here: link to see if you get it.[/quote]

    Thank you for the link.

    [quote comment=”350398″]Does anyone know the last time the Cowboys wore their “Unlucky Blue” (aka Super Bowl V) jerseys pre 1988? Not the dark-dark blue, but rathter the silver-blue ones. And what their all time record is in them?[/quote]

    I believe they last wore their Blue “Bad-Luck” jerseys, with plain White numerals and two White sleeve stripes, in the 1980 or 1981 NFC Championship game on the road at Philadelphia.
    The Eagles chose to wear White at home purposefully to force the Cowboys to ewear the “Bad-Luck” jerseys, and Dick Vermiel’s Eagles beat the Cowboys and went on to the Super Bowl.

    If I remember reading the story correctly, Cowboys exec Gil Brandt and/or Tex Schramm decided then and there to get rid of the “Bad-Luck” Blue jerseys, and considered a great many combos before deciding upon the darker Blue/Silver numeral setup. Gil Brandt was quoted, if I remember right, that the Cowboys strongly considered a Silver/Blue jersey similar to their pants color worn at that time. Over time, that color has changed to a more Silver/less Blue version of the original Cowboys pants.

    Side note, Gil Brandt was also quoted as stating that for years he knew that he wanted to update the Cowboys uni from the original 1960 uniform, and that he decided upon the original Cowboys Silver/Blue pants color when he saw that color on a new car driving next to him on a highway.
    He essentially said that the color “Had him from hello…..”

    Re: Dark numbers on orange. Have been a few, just not in NFL or AFL, which is what I said.

    Have been some in other pro leagues, NCAA and Canada in the “TV Era”, to be sure.
    Memphis Southmen/Grizzlies, yes. Virginia in the 80’s. Without digging through my files, also possibly Clemson in 50’s or 60’s. BC Lions with a couple sets (I think) in 50’s and 60’s. Oregon State, maybe, in the 70’s. Oklahoma State in burnt orange-black helmet days?

    —Ricko

    To “A.P.”
    Excellent idea; I cannot wait to see the results of this poll.

    Don’t think the Seahawks Emergency personnel jerseys will look bad at all. Like Ricko said, It would be totally different if they whipped out some black jerseys on us.

    1. Oregon looked BEAUTIFUL last night!
    2. The most egegiosu offense of the Seahawk green:

    Seneca Wallace:
    link

    TJ Houshmawhatever:
    link

    Marcus Trufant:

    link

    3. Good news for HS officials across the country:
    12 states Get It!

    link

    4. I officiated one HELLUVA game yesterday. Arlington at John Jay East Fishkill. Arlington wins it on a hail mary as time expires. More importantly, it was a visually pleasing game almost seeming like BC was playing Villanova:

    JJEF:
    link

    Arlington:
    link

    By the way, check out JJEF’s AWESOME logo on the top left of the page :

    link

    Well I personally like the Seahawks unis and team colors. I think it really gives ya a modern Pacific Northwest feel. I like the “rave green” accents on the uni, gloves & cleats. I’m not sure if it’ll look right as a dominant color though….Then again I love the Bears orange alt.

    At least it’s not a cop out black alternate, right?

    I did a quick GIS but found no evidence of the Miami Dolphins wearing orange pants. Have they ever done so?

    [quote comment=”350407″][quote comment=”350398″]Does anyone know the last time the Cowboys wore their “Unlucky Blue” (aka Super Bowl V) jerseys pre 1988? Not the dark-dark blue, but rathter the silver-blue ones. And what their all time record is in them?[/quote]

    I believe they last wore their Blue “Bad-Luck” jerseys, with plain White numerals and two White sleeve stripes, in the 1980 or 1981 NFC Championship game on the road at Philadelphia.
    The Eagles chose to wear White at home purposefully to force the Cowboys to ewear the “Bad-Luck” jerseys, and Dick Vermiel’s Eagles beat the Cowboys and went on to the Super Bowl.

    If I remember reading the story correctly, Cowboys exec Gil Brandt and/or Tex Schramm decided then and there to get rid of the “Bad-Luck” Blue jerseys, and considered a great many combos before deciding upon the darker Blue/Silver numeral setup. Gil Brandt was quoted, if I remember right, that the Cowboys strongly considered a Silver/Blue jersey similar to their pants color worn at that time. Over time, that color has changed to a more Silver/less Blue version of the original Cowboys pants.

    Side note, Gil Brandt was also quoted as stating that for years he knew that he wanted to update the Cowboys uni from the original 1960 uniform, and that he decided upon the original Cowboys Silver/Blue pants color when he saw that color on a new car driving next to him on a highway.
    He essentially said that the color “Had him from hello…..”[/quote]

    Simply put, Dallas’ dark jerseys used to be royal blue, now they’re navy. Only two dark jersey colors they’ve ever used. Their pants? That’s something else again.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”350412″]I did a quick GIS but found no evidence of the Miami Dolphins wearing orange pants. Have they ever done so?[/quote]

    No.

    [quote comment=”350407″][quote comment=”350398″]Does anyone know the last time the Cowboys wore their “Unlucky Blue” (aka Super Bowl V) jerseys pre 1988? Not the dark-dark blue, but rathter the silver-blue ones. And what their all time record is in them?[/quote]

    I believe they last wore their Blue “Bad-Luck” jerseys, with plain White numerals and two White sleeve stripes, in the 1980 or 1981 NFC Championship game on the road at Philadelphia.
    The Eagles chose to wear White at home purposefully to force the Cowboys to ewear the “Bad-Luck” jerseys, and Dick Vermiel’s Eagles beat the Cowboys and went on to the Super Bowl.

    If I remember reading the story correctly, Cowboys exec Gil Brandt and/or Tex Schramm decided then and there to get rid of the “Bad-Luck” Blue jerseys, and considered a great many combos before deciding upon the darker Blue[/quote]

    there is a dvd of that game, and that uni is pictured on the box

    [quote comment=”350405″]This is what I’m talking about with the Rams helmet logo. Was this ever game worn or just airbrushing by TOPPS?

    link[/quote]

    Never wore that helmet. Some kind of fluke, either airbrushing or equipment malfunction.

    [quote comment=”350404″][quote comment=”350360″]Since CBS has the doubleheader today (I think), my guess is very few people outside the Seattle or Chicago areas get that game.

    Check here: link to see if you get it.[/quote]

    I have known about this link for two years now and check it EVERy week. Not only does it tell you what game you will get, but what announcers you get. Whenever the Pack get Joe Buck, I am prepared to turn on the radio coverage that day.
    Thank you for the link.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”350396″]I’ll be at the Seahawks – Bears game today and I’ll be interested in how these things look in person. I photograph the games on the field, so I’ll be able to see them up close. Let’s just hope the Bears don’t decide to break out the orange alts!![/quote]

    Looking forward to seeing your photos after today’s Bears vs. Seahawks game. Must say, your football photos are absolutely brilliant. I highly recommend everyone to check out link

    oilers vs. titans looking good…oilers in white tops/pants, titans in dark blue tops/gold pants…refs in AFL orange & white stripes

    afl logo on the 25’s…everyone’s in black (well, modern black with white on about 49% of the shoe) cleats

    endzones have modern “JETS” however

    [quote comment=”350417″]Whenever the Pack get Joe Buck, I am prepared to turn on the radio coverage that day.
    Thank you for the link.[/quote][/quote]
    Why would you ever listen to anyone but Wayne Larrivee? He’s the best.

    NY Titans unis look awesome, as always. Would look even better with full shoulder loops.

    Ha! Gumbel just called them “the Oilers”!

    So, I’m flipping channels in the minutes before the Niners-Vikings game and I paused on Telemundo long enough to see a dude wearing jersey #125. Some research pointed to it being Sergio Bernal of Pumas.

    link

    Is this normal in Futbol Mexicano?

    I knew you would pick up the term “sweatbox”! :) Glad to see Oregon is finally doing something you can stand. GO DUCKS! and GO DUCKS THROWBACKS!

    One thing about the Jets’ navy throwbacks is that the gold numbers (which have no outline) don’t pop very well on TV. And we’re talking 42-inch, hi-def here.

    I enjoyed today’s Benchies, it reminds me of the story I’m about to share.

    Friday night, I’m enjoying a beautiful fall evening at a high school football. My alma mater was struggling greatly with dropped passes.

    The guy sitting two rows in front of me says “back at Joe Johns I caught seven of those in one game”.

    For a little background, “Joe Johns” is a reference to Joseph Johns Junior High School, a school that closed……..IN 1970!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I normally keep my mouth shut but I just couldn’t do it. I said “who the hell are you, Al Bundy, Polk High four touchdowns”

    [quote comment=”350431″]Eli Manning’s left-shoulder Reebok logo is completely unraveling already this afternoon.[/quote]

    Ditto for Bradshaw, Jacobs, etc. This should be the last week for that particular problem, because this set of blue jerseys is being retired after today. Skeebs tells me that the problem has already been addressed for the next set of jerseys.

    [quote comment=”350435″][quote comment=”350431″]Eli Manning’s left-shoulder Reebok logo is completely unraveling already this afternoon.[/quote]

    Ditto for Bradshaw, Jacobs, etc. This should be the last week for that particular problem, because this set of blue jerseys is being retired after today. Skeebs tells me that the problem has already been addressed for the next set of jerseys.[/quote]
    Does this mean they’re going back to the old material? Or just a new set of the new material?

    [quote comment=”350432″]What where the green football patches that the NCAA coaches wore on their sleeves?[/quote]
    A link for today.

    [quote comment=”350428″]One thing about the Jets’ navy throwbacks is that the gold numbers (which have no outline) don’t pop very well on TV. And we’re talking 42-inch, hi-def here.[/quote]

    Actually, ’61 and ’62 unis were athletic gold.
    Only the 60’s (sans loops and any white trim) were old gold.

    —Ricko

    I’m bracing for all of the knee-jerk “that’s hideous” comments regarding the Seahawks uniforms, but I think they’re great.

    It seems like almost every NFL team has colors that are some variant of red or blue or red and blue. It’s too boilerplate and boring. We need more teams that have different, interesting, vibrant color schemes, especially when those colors reflect the region the team is from. That’s why I love Miami in aqua and orange and Seattle in foggy blue and bright green and (formerly) Tampa in bright orange and red.

    Besides, this is sports we’re talking about. It’s a game. It’s entertainment. It’s supposed to be bright and festive and cheerful.

    I realize that in the past, teams were limited by availability and cost when it came to buying uniforms, leading them to pick standard colors like royal and cardinal. But that’s not the case anymore. There’s a whole spectrum of great colors to use. We should be more open-minded!

    [quote comment=”350436″][quote comment=”350435″][quote comment=”350431″]Eli Manning’s left-shoulder Reebok logo is completely unraveling already this afternoon.[/quote]

    Ditto for Bradshaw, Jacobs, etc. This should be the last week for that particular problem, because this set of blue jerseys is being retired after today. Skeebs tells me that the problem has already been addressed for the next set of jerseys.[/quote]
    Does this mean they’re going back to the old material? Or just a new set of the new material?[/quote]

    New set of new material. Many of the more annoying problems will remain, but the Reebok logo issue should no longer be a problem.

    [quote comment=”350440″]I’m not commenting on the accuracy of the uniforms… just the practicality.[/quote]

    No argument here. I was just saying it’s too bad, because it would be less of a problem if they WERE accurate. LOL

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”350443″][quote comment=”350436″][quote comment=”350435″][quote comment=”350431″]Eli Manning’s left-shoulder Reebok logo is completely unraveling already this afternoon.[/quote]

    Ditto for Bradshaw, Jacobs, etc. This should be the last week for that particular problem, because this set of blue jerseys is being retired after today. Skeebs tells me that the problem has already been addressed for the next set of jerseys.[/quote]
    Does this mean they’re going back to the old material? Or just a new set of the new material?[/quote]

    New set of new material. Many of the more annoying problems will remain, but the Reebok logo issue should no longer be a problem.[/quote]
    I’d rather the Reebok logo look like cr*p and the NOBs and numbers look good than vice versa.

    [quote comment=”350444″][quote comment=”350440″]I’m not commenting on the accuracy of the uniforms… just the practicality.[/quote]

    No argument here. I was just saying it’s too bad, because it would be less of a problem if they WERE accurate. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]
    [sarcasm]Yeah, but then the jerseys would be a lighter shade and not as COOL. [/sarcasm]

    [quote]I’m bracing for all of the knee-jerk “that’s hideous” comments regarding the Seahawks uniforms, but I think they’re great.[/quote]

    Why don’t you wait until you see them before passing judgment on others who haven’t seen them either?

    They could be great, and they could suck.

    But comments like yours are as stupid as those who dislike them sight unseen.

    Just a note of thanks from Hoosier Nation — this morning’s #1 ranking in the UW college poll of college uni matchups is a nice but small bit consolation after yesterday’s heartbreak in Ann Arbor. Hopefully the boys in Bloomington will take note.

    [quote comment=”350450″][quote]I’m bracing for all of the knee-jerk “that’s hideous” comments regarding the Seahawks uniforms, but I think they’re great.[/quote]

    Why don’t you wait until you see them before passing judgment on others who haven’t seen them either?

    They could be great, and they could suck.

    But comments like yours are as stupid as those who dislike them sight unseen.[/quote]

    Dude, what are you talking about?!? There are plenty of pictures of them posted. How am I commenting “sight unseen”? Are you saying that I have to see them on the field before I’m allowed to have an opinion?

    If so, you’d better tell that to the owner of the sight, because he often reviews jerseys and says that they’re great or stupid after seeing pictures without having seen them on the feel. You don’t have to see something on the field to understand the design aesthetic.

    Chill, dude. Chill

    Despite being guilty of the “knee-jerk traditionalist” charge at times, I say the Seahawks should embrace the new color scheme. It’s a modern franchise born in 1976, Seattle is associated with high tech, caffiene and gray-blue skies. I like pro leagues to have a good mix of well-designed modern color schemes and logos. Especially if the city or the nickname is more 21st century than old school.
    Astros are an obvious example. Sun-belt cities like Charlotte and Tampa also seem like natural candidates for newer colors and styles.

    [quote comment=”350394″]LEFTOVERS FROM TESTERDAY …

    Orange FOOTBALL Jerseys with Dark Numerals

    The Bears have actually worn TWO different Orange jerseys in recent years. Their regular Orange Alternate, and 4-5 years ago on Thanksgiving they wore Orange “Throwbacks” vs. Dallas – and if I am not hallucinating it was color vs. color as Dallas wore 1960 Navy jerseys/White helmets, Bears wore Orange jerseys, Navy Helmets, White pants.

    Dark numerals on Orange jerseys. Hmmmmm.

    Memphis Grizzlies WFL – the Czonka/Kiick/ Warfield SI Mag cover. Not a bad uni.

    Also, the never-worn Cincy Bengals original “concept” uniform that even made it into NFL promotional materials – shown here on uniawtch a couple of times.

    I really wish the Bengals had adopted that uniform as their originals – rather than the Browns (essentially) rip-off unis. Orange helmet and jersey, dark numerals, White pants – a uniform of their own.

    I understand why Paul Brown might have had a comfort level in dressing his upstart Bengals in the chosen Browns mimic unis, along with his connection to Masillion’s Orange and Black.

    My bigger question – Why release the Orange Helmet/Orange Jersey uni concept – that certainly went far enough along to make it into the released NFL promo materials – and then later switch to the Browns rip-off unis? That to me is the story worth knowing

    IMO, the stories of how and why certain uni choices are made are as interesting, if not more, than what is actually worn. I would love to see some type of article or synopsis of how and why certain nicknames, colors, and uni templates were chosen – above and beyond how the obvious chioces were made.[/quote]

    I too would like to see or learn more about the reasons teams chose certain colors.

    I have watched the 2 episodes of the AFL story on Showtime. I was not aware of the reason the Bills at first had silver and blue. It was because of the tie in to the Lions

    [quote comment=”350452″][quote comment=”350450″][quote]I’m bracing for all of the knee-jerk “that’s hideous” comments regarding the Seahawks uniforms, but I think they’re great.[/quote]

    Why don’t you wait until you see them before passing judgment on others who haven’t seen them either?

    They could be great, and they could suck.

    But comments like yours are as stupid as those who dislike them sight unseen.[/quote]

    Dude, what are you talking about?!? There are plenty of pictures of them posted. How am I commenting “sight unseen”? Are you saying that I have to see them on the field before I’m allowed to have an opinion?

    If so, you’d better tell that to the owner of the sight, because he often reviews jerseys and says that they’re great or stupid after seeing pictures without having seen them on the feel. You don’t have to see something on the field to understand the design aesthetic.

    Chill, dude. Chill[/quote]

    I was talking about ON THE FIELD, not in some twitter pic. Why don’t you wait until you actually see them in action before proclaiming them the shit. Dude

    [quote comment=”350453″]Despite being guilty of the “knee-jerk traditionalist” charge at times, I say the Seahawks should embrace the new color scheme. It’s a modern franchise born in 1976, Seattle is associated with high tech, caffiene and gray-blue skies. I like pro leagues to have a good mix of well-designed modern color schemes and logos. Especially if the city or the nickname is more 21st century than old school.
    Astros are an obvious example. Sun-belt cities like Charlotte and Tampa also seem like natural candidates for newer colors and styles.[/quote]

    Very well said. Having spent some time in Seattle, I can vouch for the fact that Seattle’s uniform set, including the new alternate, most definitely represent that region. There’s no doubt that those are uniforms worn by a team from Seattle. That’s what good design is all about–creating something that looks good in context and immediately calls to mind what that thing represents.

    That’s why leagues like the USFL and the WFL had such charm. Teams truly represented the region they were from, not just the league itself. A team from Arizona should wear copper. A team from Orlando should wear neon green. Etc…

    Modern color schemes and designs can be just as good-looking and appropriate when they are well-designed.

    [quote comment=”350456″][quote comment=”350452″][quote comment=”350450″][quote]I’m bracing for all of the knee-jerk “that’s hideous” comments regarding the Seahawks uniforms, but I think they’re great.[/quote]

    Why don’t you wait until you see them before passing judgment on others who haven’t seen them either?

    They could be great, and they could suck.

    But comments like yours are as stupid as those who dislike them sight unseen.[/quote]

    Dude, what are you talking about?!? There are plenty of pictures of them posted. How am I commenting “sight unseen”? Are you saying that I have to see them on the field before I’m allowed to have an opinion?

    If so, you’d better tell that to the owner of the sight, because he often reviews jerseys and says that they’re great or stupid after seeing pictures without having seen them on the feel. You don’t have to see something on the field to understand the design aesthetic.

    Chill, dude. Chill[/quote]

    I was talking about ON THE FIELD, not in some twitter pic. Why don’t you wait until you actually see them in action before proclaiming them the shit. Dude[/quote]

    Like I said, tell that to Mr. Lukas. He routinely praises and criticizes new uniforms based on pictures of them, without ever seeing them on the field. I’m just following his example. Seeing a uniform in multiple different pictures is certainly enough to form an opinion about something.

    I don’t get where your attitude is coming from.

    kevin kolb of the eagle seems to have something extended over his helmet’s safety warning. anyone know what this is? maybe something that’s only on the radio helmets

    So why didn’t the Oregon Ducks wear the helmets with the stripes? The stripes on that helmet make it look much better.

    The uniforms were nice to see

    [quote comment=”350459″]kevin kolb of the eagle seems to have something extended over his helmet’s safety warning. anyone know what this is? maybe something that’s only on the radio helmets[/quote]

    they just did a close up of garcia when he came in. it says, #9-GARCIA PRIMARY COACH-QB

    [quote comment=”350461″][quote comment=”350459″]kevin kolb of the eagle seems to have something extended over his helmet’s safety warning. anyone know what this is? maybe something that’s only on the radio helmets[/quote]

    they just did a close up of garcia when he came in. it says, #9-GARCIA PRIMARY COACH-QB[/quote]

    got a screen grab if anyone wants.

    After watching the high powered Browns offense my area get the last few minutes of the Jets Titans game

    Sweet.

    I have always liked the old NY Titans unis

    [quote]Mr. Lukas. He routinely praises and criticizes new uniforms based on pictures of them, without ever seeing them on the field. I’m just following his example.[/quote]

    Really? I believe it is his prerogative, nay, his job, to do that. You, not so much. Maybe everyone will fall in love with the new green uniform, but I don’t recall Mr. Lukas has ever tendered an opinion on this uni. I’m sure he will tomorrow.

    [quote comment=”350464″][quote]Mr. Lukas. He routinely praises and criticizes new uniforms based on pictures of them, without ever seeing them on the field. I’m just following his example.[/quote]

    Really? I believe it is his prerogative, nay, his job, to do that. You, not so much. Maybe everyone will fall in love with the new green uniform, but I don’t recall Mr. Lukas has ever tendered an opinion on this uni. I’m sure he will tomorrow.[/quote]

    No, umm, you totally missed the point. I was simply saying that it’s possible to form an opinion without seeing a uniform on the field. My example was Mr. Lukas, who does it all the time. It doesn’t matter if he gets paid to do it. It doesn’t matter if he has given an opinion on this particular uniform or not. It’s about the general principle.

    Down to the wire – the Titans uni’s are beating the Houston uni’s while we switch you to Houston falling short against the Jags and their black- uhh green – uhh teal helmets.
    Or not.

    I knew I would only get to see 3 minutes of that Titans Jets game.

    The NY Titans numbers sure seemed dark. Makes me wonder about the exact color or shade of these throwbacks

    Words fail me as to how ugly those Seahawk uniforms are. It is the Bears’ duty to humanity to beat Seattle so badly as to make them never wear it again.

    [quote comment=”350465″][quote comment=”350464″][quote]Mr. Lukas. He routinely praises and criticizes new uniforms based on pictures of them, without ever seeing them on the field. I’m just following his example.[/quote]

    Really? I believe it is his prerogative, nay, his job, to do that. You, not so much. Maybe everyone will fall in love with the new green uniform, but I don’t recall Mr. Lukas has ever tendered an opinion on this uni. I’m sure he will tomorrow.[/quote]

    No, umm, you totally missed the point. I was simply saying that it’s possible to form an opinion without seeing a uniform on the field. My example was Mr. Lukas, who does it all the time. It doesn’t matter if he gets paid to do it. It doesn’t matter if he has given an opinion on this particular uniform or not. It’s about the general principle.[/quote]

    It’s a blog. It’s the internet. Opinions are posted. Each poster’s perception is what it is. Personal taste. Paul’s opinions are Paul’s opinions.Pissing contests are lame.

    it doesn’t look like the seahawks took the time to have the jerseys fitted. they look baggy on the players

    I think Aaron is rightly entitled to his opinion and AD needs to calm down. Its getting ridiculous trying to go through the comments finding worthy content and all it is is an argument.

    Wow… I think we have an all-time NFL worst with these puke green Seahawks in navy pants. They are truly horrible.

    [quote comment=”350473″]You’ll have to excuse me, the Niners just lost with :02 on the clock.[/quote]
    thanks to a Holmes-ian catch in the back of the endzone.

    Seattle Seahawks – Highway Crew Workers? No Contact QBs? Grade Schoolers in Gym Class Pinnys? Sprite Cans? Yoshi from Mario Kart?

    for those poor bastards like me who have to wait for highlights/wire photos because we’re not getting the seahawks game…

    can someone please post a grab?

    are the seahawks wearing darker pants than usual, or is it just the contrast of the jersey? the pants color seems to match up with the shoulder as opposed to the helmet.
    link
    they seem to be the reversed from the dark outline around the green stripe
    link

    My first glance on RedZone of the Seahawks – it was live video, so I assume I will be entitled to give an opinion – Ehhh …. XFL-ish. Lookin’ for He Hate Me.

    I wouldn’t exactly call the Seahawks uniforms puke green. If you are puking up something that shade of green I suggest you run to the doctor immediately. Something is terribly wrong with you.

    Hmm. Make the blue sleeve trim and the helmets closer to the same color, and switch to white pants, and these green Seattle things wouldn’t be too bad.

    As it is, it looks too much like they just threw it together. Which is probably what they did.

    [quote comment=”350471″]I think Aaron is rightly entitled to his opinion and AD needs to calm down. Its getting ridiculous trying to go through the comments finding worthy content and all it is is an argument.[/quote]

    true true, but they both need to calm down…both made good points, but to declare a uniform shit or THE shit without seeing it live is kinda pointless

    now that (except for of course me) we’re finally getting live action shots, everyone can render their opinions

    from the first few comments, however, sounds like a trainwreck

    [quote comment=”350476″]Any online streams of the Seahawks game? I’ve got the Steelers/Bengals game on CBS and no game on Fox[/quote]

    Download the Stream Torrent software, then click the link:

    link

    Find the game, and click on any link with a green circle and the words “StreamTorrent” preceding it.

    Red Zone anchor Scott Hanson:
    “..by the way, you can make your own Plutonium joke about the Seahawks’ uniforms. This is being presented in HD, and for the first time ever , we apologize for that…”

    Well, I was certainly [quote comment=”350482″][quote comment=”350471″]I think Aaron is rightly entitled to his opinion and AD needs to calm down. Its getting ridiculous trying to go through the comments finding worthy content and all it is is an argument.[/quote]

    true true, but they both need to calm down…both made good points, but to declare a uniform shit or THE shit without seeing it live is kinda pointless

    now that (except for of course me) we’re finally getting live action shots, everyone can render their opinions

    from the first few comments, however, sounds like a trainwreck[/quote]

    Just for the record, I never declared that the uniform the shit at all. My whole original point was that we should be open-minded about the jersey, not reject it in a knee-jerk fashion.

    But, as we can see, no one heeded my advice. Lots of knee-jerk reactions coming in.

    Nate Burleson’s shoes match his jersey. Someone really needs to get a screen grab of that.

    [quote comment=”350486″]Just for the record, I never declared that the uniform the shit at all. My whole original point was that we should be open-minded about the jersey, not reject it in a knee-jerk fashion.

    But, as we can see, no one heeded my advice. Lots of knee-jerk reactions coming in.[/quote]

    lets end this, but just for the record you did say:

    [quote]I’m bracing for all of the knee-jerk “that’s hideous” comments regarding the Seahawks uniforms, but I think they’re great,.[/quote]

    maybe “I think they’re great” isn’t the same thing as “the shit”…sorry if i that was misinterpreted

    now that you’ve seen them (hopefully, unlike me, you are getting the game) whaddya think?

    I like the Seahawks jersey. Like I said above, it gives some much needed brightness to their uniform set.

    I especially like it on players wearing green trim (gloves, shoes, etc).

    My only complaint – I don’t like the blue sleeves – I think the jerseys would look better in solid green.

    [quote comment=”350488″][quote comment=”350486″]Just for the record, I never declared that the uniform the shit at all. My whole original point was that we should be open-minded about the jersey, not reject it in a knee-jerk fashion.

    But, as we can see, no one heeded my advice. Lots of knee-jerk reactions coming in.[/quote]

    lets end this, but just for the record you did say:

    [quote]I’m bracing for all of the knee-jerk “that’s hideous” comments regarding the Seahawks uniforms, but I think they’re great,.[/quote]

    maybe “I think they’re great” isn’t the same thing as “the shit”…sorry if i that was misinterpreted

    now that you’ve seen them (hopefully, unlike me, you are getting the game) whaddya think?[/quote]

    No, I’m not getting the game here. Few people outside Seattle and Chicago are. But based on the few screenshots and stuff, my opinion stands. They look great, not “the shit”, but pretty cool.

    The AFL throwback game and the Fins/Bolts matchup are the two prettiest NFL games in my opinion. Go AFL. Giants-Bucs looked pretty good.
    Every other game has at least one uni or uni element on my worst list.
    I liked my Ravens in their home purple jerseys for the first time this year, but the Brownies’ poo-pants spoiled that aesthetic.

    [quote comment=”350495″]Ack! There’s 3 games on local TV. Bengals, Bills and Seahawks. My eyes are bleeding![/quote]
    You have three locals at the same time? Even in the Baltimore/DC area we only have two different games at 4:00.

    1. I’m getting the Dolphins/Bolts game and the Dolphins look great in aqua jeseys and white pants.

    2. Why does Ted Ginn wear a modified kicker’s facemask?

    link

    3. I like the Seahawks unis. It’s about time somebody stepped outside of the box.

    Seattle’s unis are OK. Nothing I’d choose, but I can’t object to them. I’m sure they’ll have their fans. They’re not a catastrophe like the Bengals or Bills. For what they are, I’d say they pulled them off.

    Now, those Florida A&M jobs. Wow! Now that’s an eye-full.

    [quote comment=”350377″]How many here actually SAW the Orlando Thunder play in person or on TV? Or the U of Hawaii when they basketball team wore that color green?

    Just sayin’, it’s bright, but not as bad as you think.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    You’re right – it’s not as a bad you think. However, the Thunder played with white pants and white helmets and somehow it worked. The Seahawks, though, paired the neon green jersey with the dark pants and dark helmets. That doesn’t look so good.

    [quote comment=”350486″]Well, I was certainly [quote comment=”350482″][quote comment=”350471″]I think Aaron is rightly entitled to his opinion and AD needs to calm down. Its getting ridiculous trying to go through the comments finding worthy content and all it is is an argument.[/quote]

    true true, but they both need to calm down…both made good points, but to declare a uniform shit or THE shit without seeing it live is kinda pointless

    now that (except for of course me) we’re finally getting live action shots, everyone can render their opinions

    from the first few comments, however, sounds like a trainwreck[/quote]

    Just for the record, I never declared that the uniform the shit at all. My whole original point was that we should be open-minded about the jersey, not reject it in a knee-jerk fashion.

    But, as we can see, no one heeded my advice. Lots of knee-jerk reactions coming in.[/quote]

    Yes, the whole problem with today’s comments section is that nobody “heeded” your “advice.”

    Or maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t decide before the fact that other people’s opinions are “kneejerk” — before they’ve even expressed those opinions. And maybe, just maybe, some people dislike the Seattle uni because they sincerely dislike it, just as you seem to sincerely like it.
    I can’t see the game, so I have no opinions yet on the Seattle uniforms. But I have big opinions on people who try to set the terms of a discussion before it’s even started. No more of that. Thanks.

    And in non football news, Yankees clinch, unpack a crate of champagne and celebrate in their new AL east champ t-shirts and hats.

    Hats don’t look too bad, actually.

    [quote comment=”350495″]Ack! There’s 3 games on local TV. Bengals, Bills and Seahawks. My eyes are bleeding![/quote]

    I have no local game now. I threw a brick thru my TV when the Niners lost @ the :02 mark.

    Those slobbering Fox announcers, “Favre doesn’t play for the money (sure, of course not)-he’s a warrior, he plays for the love of the game.” He cured cancer at halftime, and solved the economic crisis during a third quarter timeout.

    Frickin’ frick frick frick frick frick frick.

    If you think I’m mad, you’d be right.

    I’ve been a Seahawks fan my entire life (coming from Michigan, no less) and I can’t say that I’m a giant fan of the greens. What bugs me the most is their insistence on wearing blue pants. Their home blues and these greens would be best paired with the white pants and their white roads would look best with the blue pants. Some teams can pull off the monochrome look…but they are few and far between.

    [quote comment=”350504″]I’ve been a Seahawks fan my entire life (coming from Michigan, no less) and I can’t say that I’m a giant fan of the greens. What bugs me the most is their insistence on wearing blue pants. Their home blues and these greens would be best paired with the white pants and their white roads would look best with the blue pants. Some teams can pull off the monochrome look…but they are few and far between.[/quote]

    [quote comment=\”350504\”]I\’ve been a Seahawks fan my entire life (coming from Michigan, no less) and I can\’t say that I\’m a giant fan of the greens. What bugs me the most is their insistence on wearing blue pants. Their home blues and these greens would be best paired with the white pants and their white roads would look best with the blue pants. Some teams can pull off the monochrome look…but they are few and far between.[/quote]

    are these a new shade of blue pants, or have they always had 2 sets of blues?

    [quote comment=”350503″][quote comment=”350495″]He cured cancer at halftime, and solved the economic crisis during a third quarter timeout.

    right.[/quote]

    Sweet – now I can afford Sunday Ticket!

    It’s pretty cool how the food vendors at the Seahawks game and wearing the same uniforms as the players.

    still haven’t seen highlights, but did see a feed, plus the stills…

    in that bright sunshine the unis certainly, um, stand out

    i think they should have gone with dark numbers tho, and perhaps over white pants

    something closer to this

    still wanna see them in HDTV action tho, before i say anything else

    I’ve been a CHawks fan since year 1, with Jim Zorn at QB and Steve Largent at WR. I think the lime green is terrific, and in fact my complaint is that they held back, I’d like the blue sleeves lost and the helmet in green as well. Blue pants or white, either way works for me.
    Considering that we have 8 starters on the bench with owies, I’d say the change suits them well.

    [quote comment=”350500″][quote comment=”350486″]Well, I was certainly [quote comment=”350482″][quote comment=”350471″]I think Aaron is rightly entitled to his opinion and AD needs to calm down. Its getting ridiculous trying to go through the comments finding worthy content and all it is is an argument.[/quote]

    true true, but they both need to calm down…both made good points, but to declare a uniform shit or THE shit without seeing it live is kinda pointless

    now that (except for of course me) we’re finally getting live action shots, everyone can render their opinions

    from the first few comments, however, sounds like a trainwreck[/quote]

    Just for the record, I never declared that the uniform the shit at all. My whole original point was that we should be open-minded about the jersey, not reject it in a knee-jerk fashion.

    But, as we can see, no one heeded my advice. Lots of knee-jerk reactions coming in.[/quote]

    Yes, the whole problem with today’s comments section is that nobody “heeded” your “advice.”

    Or maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t decide before the fact that other people’s opinions are “kneejerk” — before they’ve even expressed those opinions. And maybe, just maybe, some people dislike the Seattle uni because they sincerely dislike it, just as you seem to sincerely like it.
    I can’t see the game, so I have no opinions yet on the Seattle uniforms. But I have big opinions on people who try to set the terms of a discussion before it’s even started. No more of that. Thanks.[/quote]

    Well, judging from the fact that no one has provided an aesthetic rationale for their dislike of the jerseys, instead saying stuff like, “My eyes, my eyes, they look like puke, etc…” I think it’s safe to say that a lot of knees are jerking.

    Now, if someone wants to provide a well thought-out explanation specifying why it is that they don’t like the uniforms, that’s cool. But that’s not what people are doing.

    I’ve been a CHawks fan since year 1, with Jim Zorn at QB and Steve Largent at WR.

    Right about now, I’m thinking Zorn would look pretty good in Seattle colors, whatever they are.

    To quote =bg=

    Frickin’ frick frick frick frick frick frick.

    [quote comment=”350512″][quote comment=”350500″][quote comment=”350486″]Well, I was certainly [quote comment=”350482″][quote comment=”350471″]I think Aaron is rightly entitled to his opinion and AD needs to calm down. Its getting ridiculous trying to go through the comments finding worthy content and all it is is an argument.[/quote]

    true true, but they both need to calm down…both made good points, but to declare a uniform shit or THE shit without seeing it live is kinda pointless

    now that (except for of course me) we’re finally getting live action shots, everyone can render their opinions

    from the first few comments, however, sounds like a trainwreck[/quote]

    Just for the record, I never declared that the uniform the shit at all. My whole original point was that we should be open-minded about the jersey, not reject it in a knee-jerk fashion.

    But, as we can see, no one heeded my advice. Lots of knee-jerk reactions coming in.[/quote]

    Yes, the whole problem with today’s comments section is that nobody “heeded” your “advice.”

    Or maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t decide before the fact that other people’s opinions are “kneejerk” — before they’ve even expressed those opinions. And maybe, just maybe, some people dislike the Seattle uni because they sincerely dislike it, just as you seem to sincerely like it.
    I can’t see the game, so I have no opinions yet on the Seattle uniforms. But I have big opinions on people who try to set the terms of a discussion before it’s even started. No more of that. Thanks.[/quote]

    Well, judging from the fact that no one has provided an aesthetic rationale for their dislike of the jerseys, instead saying stuff like, “My eyes, my eyes, they look like puke, etc…” I think it’s safe to say that a lot of knees are jerking.

    Now, if someone wants to provide a well thought-out explanation specifying why it is that they don’t like the uniforms, that’s cool. But that’s not what people are doing.[/quote]
    I think that if there were always cut-and-dried reasons to like or not like uniforms then there wouldn’t be much point to this website. People are different and like or dislike things for their own reasons and there’s no such thing as one that’s not valid. I think it’s also sometimes hard, if you don’t have training in art or design or whatever, to articulate what you do or don’t like about a uniform. We should probably all be more patient about that.

    [quote comment=”350512″][quote comment=”350500″][quote comment=”350486″]Well, I was certainly [quote comment=”350482″][quote comment=”350471″]I think Aaron is rightly entitled to his opinion and AD needs to calm down. Its getting ridiculous trying to go through the comments finding worthy content and all it is is an argument.[/quote]

    true true, but they both need to calm down…both made good points, but to declare a uniform shit or THE shit without seeing it live is kinda pointless

    now that (except for of course me) we’re finally getting live action shots, everyone can render their opinions

    from the first few comments, however, sounds like a trainwreck[/quote]

    Just for the record, I never declared that the uniform the shit at all. My whole original point was that we should be open-minded about the jersey, not reject it in a knee-jerk fashion.

    But, as we can see, no one heeded my advice. Lots of knee-jerk reactions coming in.[/quote]

    Yes, the whole problem with today’s comments section is that nobody “heeded” your “advice.”

    Or maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t decide before the fact that other people’s opinions are “kneejerk” — before they’ve even expressed those opinions. And maybe, just maybe, some people dislike the Seattle uni because they sincerely dislike it, just as you seem to sincerely like it.
    I can’t see the game, so I have no opinions yet on the Seattle uniforms. But I have big opinions on people who try to set the terms of a discussion before it’s even started. No more of that. Thanks.[/quote]

    Well, judging from the fact that no one has provided an aesthetic rationale for their dislike of the jerseys, instead saying stuff like, “My eyes, my eyes, they look like puke, etc…” I think it’s safe to say that a lot of knees are jerking.

    Now, if someone wants to provide a well thought-out explanation specifying why it is that they don’t like the uniforms, that’s cool. But that’s not what people are doing.[/quote]

    my biggest problem with the uniforms are the shoulders and pants. they are both matching the dark blue accent color on the helmet logo. the uniforms 3 main components (helmet, jersey, pants) are 3 different colors. they should’ve at least worn pants that matched the helmet, or done the same with the shoulders.

    [quote comment=”350512″][quote comment=”350500″][quote comment=”350486″]Well, I was certainly [quote comment=”350482″][quote comment=”350471″]I think Aaron is rightly entitled to his opinion and AD needs to calm down. Its getting ridiculous trying to go through the comments finding worthy content and all it is is an argument.[/quote]

    true true, but they both need to calm down…both made good points, but to declare a uniform shit or THE shit without seeing it live is kinda pointless

    now that (except for of course me) we’re finally getting live action shots, everyone can render their opinions

    from the first few comments, however, sounds like a trainwreck[/quote]

    Just for the record, I never declared that the uniform the shit at all. My whole original point was that we should be open-minded about the jersey, not reject it in a knee-jerk fashion.

    But, as we can see, no one heeded my advice. Lots of knee-jerk reactions coming in.[/quote]

    Yes, the whole problem with today’s comments section is that nobody “heeded” your “advice.”

    Or maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t decide before the fact that other people’s opinions are “kneejerk” — before they’ve even expressed those opinions. And maybe, just maybe, some people dislike the Seattle uni because they sincerely dislike it, just as you seem to sincerely like it.
    I can’t see the game, so I have no opinions yet on the Seattle uniforms. But I have big opinions on people who try to set the terms of a discussion before it’s even started. No more of that. Thanks.[/quote]

    Well, judging from the fact that no one has provided an aesthetic rationale for their dislike of the jerseys, instead saying stuff like, “My eyes, my eyes, they look like puke, etc…” I think it’s safe to say that a lot of knees are jerking.

    Now, if someone wants to provide a well thought-out explanation specifying why it is that they don’t like the uniforms, that’s cool. But that’s not what people are doing.[/quote]

    This isn’t rocket science – this is brain surgery. Wait, this isn’t brain surgery either…sorry. If this forum were about cars, would there be a need for a poster to explain WHY he thinks the AMC Pacer was ugly? If you posted on a celebrity site a technical breakdown about why Angelina Jolie is hot or not, that would be boring. Ugly, like beauty- is in the eye of the beholder. Paul Lukas thinks purple uniforms are ugly. Fair enough. That is his two cents. Many a uni-watcher has expresssed his or her own personal like or dislike for the Seahawks get-up. That is how this works.

    The dark blue outline on the numbers is sharp and clean. It’s a good old fashioned “Princeton” or “varsity” number font and a nice traditional block lettering on the white NOB. Huge numbers on the back – a Seahawk tradition going back to Zorn and Largent days.

    Now Olindo Mare’s kick – that was ugly. I don’t care who you are.

    I think the Seahawks should have used their regular blue instead of navy for the pants. The green itself isn’t bad, but as a uniform it’s screwy.

    I wonder if the navy pants are going to show up again with their regular jerseys.

    On another level, when has a lighter colored jersey over dark colored pants been widely liked by people on this blog? I only know of the Titans’ Light Blue over Navy to be a common similar look in the NFL. Minnesota Gophers and others have tried it in college of late and a lot of people express a dislike.

    Nifty? Try BORING…

    it wasn’t just Oregon in their nifty throwbacks who encountered the problem. Sometimes it’s the big “square” in the middle of the stomach, or just the back and sides of the jersey, but it’s obviously caused by different materials Nike is using to piece together their jerseys.

    Come on, to say that the Oregon throwback jersey is “nifty” means that you might actually like it?

    It’s a green jersey with gold and white outlined letters… it’s not nifty is BORING

    I like the Seahawks greenies. To my way of thinking, they are a lot better than those dull blue monochromes they usually wear. They look more energetic in them than in the blues, which are an insomnia cure.

    Well, A.P. took me to task over my claim that “we here on UW should have the final word on that sort of thing anyway.”

    That is the most ludicrous comment ever conjured up on this blog… so pompous… so self-indulgent… so Michael Jordan Hall of Fame induction speechesque… like more than two or three bloggers on this site acutally understand sports aesthetics??? Very funny…

    Dan Patrick said Mangini looked like a UPS man in the brown cap and polo, MWAH HAHAHAHA.
    “Tackling was optional for the Browns today.”
    -Quote of the week.

    Meanwhile, Eric, how’s that discipline going for ya?
    link

    All is well. The Seahawks lost 25-19 in their horseshit ugly green jerseys. DA’ BEARZZZZZZZZZ!

    [quote comment=”350523″]Well, A.P. took me to task over my claim that “we here on UW should have the final word on that sort of thing anyway.”

    That is the most ludicrous comment ever conjured up on this blog… so pompous… so self-indulgent… so Michael Jordan Hall of Fame induction speechesque… like more than two or three bloggers on this site acutally understand sports aesthetics??? Very funny…[/quote]
    OK, that settles it. Something really needs to be done about those <sarcasm> tags.

    The Purdue Boilermakers know how to do a blackout. They broke out the all black uniforms, the crowd was dressed in black, and the endzones (which usually feature a gold PURDUE wordmark) were even black. Great work on the Blackout.

    [quote comment=”350527″]All is well. The Seahawks lost 25-19 in their horseshit ugly green jerseys. DA’ BEARZZZZZZZZZ![/quote]
    To celebrate, I shall wolf down 25 pounds of Polish SAHsage, my friend. One for every point scored by the beloved today.

    link gives the thumbs-up.

    It’s a good thing for Seattle that a certain link no longer patrols the sidelines. Otherwise, the score would have been somewhere in the neighborhood of 783 to negative 37.

    [quote comment=”350524″]The Pirates didn’t wear their pinstriped alternate vest today.[/quote]

    Good, I always hated the black pinstripes, why copy the Yankees? If the Pirates wanted to don pinstripes, the gold ones of the late 70’s are much sharper than black. Don’t believe any other baseball team ever used gold pinstripes before.

    [quote comment=”350529″]The Purdue Boilermakers know how to do a blackout. They broke out the all black uniforms, the crowd was dressed in black, and the endzones (which usually feature a gold PURDUE wordmark) were even black. Great work on the Blackout.[/quote]
    And, like most blackouts, it ended in a loss for the home team. Mission accomplished.

    Seattle jerseys got to be kind of distracting. They also looked much brighter on tv compared to any of the pictures I’ve seen online. Also, the different sleeve patterns really stood out. link

    So what’s left to be said about these Seattle unis? Probably nothing, but I’ll chime in anyway.

    I actually didn’t hate them. Did they look ridiculous? Absolutely. I’m really hoping this is a one time per season thing.

    It seems like they went with the worst possible color pants (staying within their color scheme, of course). Either white or their usual gunmetal blue (the one that matches the helmet) would have been a huge improvement. That same color on the sleeves would have helped as well.

    But, as I said, I didn’t hate them. It took a few minutes to get used to them, but once I did, they didn’t bother me at all.

    In fact, the only real problem I had with them is that the bright sunlight actually made them look white on the TV I was watching a few times. So there were inadvertent celebrations on a couple short passing plays where I thought a Bears linebacker had intercepted the pass.

    My wife echoed one of the comments above. Once she saw them, she said “Oh, wow. Those ARE awful. They look like they’re wearing pinnies in gym class.”

    Guess the Game:

    link

    9/30/56 at Ebbetts Field. The final was 8-6. Got it by Clemente (#21)leading off for the Pirates and the Dodgers batting order.

    [quote comment=”350531″][quote comment=”350524″]The Pirates didn’t wear their pinstriped alternate vest today.[/quote]

    Good, I always hated the black pinstripes, why copy the Yankees? If the Pirates wanted to don pinstripes, the gold ones of the late 70’s are much sharper than black. Don’t believe any other baseball team ever used gold pinstripes before.[/quote]

    The food vendor in the expensive seats behind home plate was wearing a gold-striped jersey with a yellow pillbox hat. He was the only one dressed like that, but then again he’s not a typical vendor – my brother noticed that he was tossing food to people, but not taking any money. I guess the Bucs figure if you’re going to pay that much for a seat you shouldn’t have to pay for a snack.

    Saw a fan with a yellow jersey with “Traded” and “09” on the back. Another fan had an ONOB #8 jersey. Even though Stargell was my favorite player (and I was wearing his jersey with his name), I didn’t begrudge the guy. To each his own.

    Turned out to be a nice game. Pirates gave up three in the ninth, causing quite a few fans to go home to watch the Steelers. Those of us who stuck around were treating to a 4-run bottom of the ninth. This could be the turning point! Next year we’ll have a winning season! Maybe…ah, never mind.

    I LOVE the new seahawks uniforms, greatest jerseys ever. I might have to buy one and wear it proudly.

    [quote comment=”350522″]I like the Seahawks greenies. To my way of thinking, they are a lot better than those dull blue monochromes they usually wear. They look more energetic in them than in the blues, which are an insomnia cure.[/quote]

    My wife, who cares NOTHING about athletic aesthetics took one look and loved them.

    I have to agree.

    If they went half-assed and didn’t wear accessories, I’d have gone the other way.

    link

    Check out Wallace’s LT 2.1 cleats in the background.

    But they did, so I love em.

    [quote comment=”350539″]I LOVE the new seahawks uniforms, greatest jerseys ever. I might have to buy one and wear it proudly.[/quote]

    I disagree with best ever…this board is going to be LIT up when the Bucs wear their creamsicles.

    I might just have to fire up the ole DIY machine for one of those jammies.

    [quote comment=”350538″][quote comment=”350531″][quote comment=”350524″]The Pirates didn’t wear their pinstriped alternate vest today.[/quote]

    Good, I always hated the black pinstripes, why copy the Yankees? If the Pirates wanted to don pinstripes, the gold ones of the late 70’s are much sharper than black. Don’t believe any other baseball team ever used gold pinstripes before.[/quote]

    The food vendor in the expensive seats behind home plate was wearing a gold-striped jersey with a yellow pillbox hat. He was the only one dressed like that, but then again he’s not a typical vendor – my brother noticed that he was tossing food to people, but not taking any money. I guess the Bucs figure if you’re going to pay that much for a seat you shouldn’t have to pay for a snack.

    Saw a fan with a yellow jersey with “Traded” and “09” on the back. Another fan had an ONOB #8 jersey. Even though Stargell was my favorite player (and I was wearing his jersey with his name), I didn’t begrudge the guy. To each his own.

    Turned out to be a nice game. Pirates gave up three in the ninth, causing quite a few fans to go home to watch the Steelers. Those of us who stuck around were treating to a 4-run bottom of the ninth. This could be the turning point! Next year we’ll have a winning season! Maybe…ah, never mind.[/quote]

    You and Ryan Connelly must have been the only other two people in attendance!

    [quote comment=”350539″]I LOVE the new seahawks uniforms, greatest jerseys ever. I might have to buy one and wear it proudly.[/quote]

    I’d wear one, too. Someone mentioned he’d like to see a green helmet – if the logo stayed blue that might be interesting.

    [quote comment=”350543″][quote comment=”350538″][quote comment=”350531″][quote comment=”350524″]The Pirates didn’t wear their pinstriped alternate vest today.[/quote]

    Good, I always hated the black pinstripes, why copy the Yankees? If the Pirates wanted to don pinstripes, the gold ones of the late 70’s are much sharper than black. Don’t believe any other baseball team ever used gold pinstripes before.[/quote]

    The food vendor in the expensive seats behind home plate was wearing a gold-striped jersey with a yellow pillbox hat. He was the only one dressed like that, but then again he’s not a typical vendor – my brother noticed that he was tossing food to people, but not taking any money. I guess the Bucs figure if you’re going to pay that much for a seat you shouldn’t have to pay for a snack.

    Saw a fan with a yellow jersey with “Traded” and “09” on the back. Another fan had an ONOB #8 jersey. Even though Stargell was my favorite player (and I was wearing his jersey with his name), I didn’t begrudge the guy. To each his own.

    Turned out to be a nice game. Pirates gave up three in the ninth, causing quite a few fans to go home to watch the Steelers. Those of us who stuck around were treating to a 4-run bottom of the ninth. This could be the turning point! Next year we’ll have a winning season! Maybe…ah, never mind.[/quote]

    You and Ryan Connelly must have been the only other two people in attendance![/quote]

    Actually, there was a decent crowd – fan appreciation day helps. ESPN said almost 27,000. Saturday night I heard they drew 35,000, but that’s because they had fireworks and Foreigner in concert.

    I like the number 85 on Lastings Milledge link and I don’t have a problem with the postagme celebration. Yes, the Bucs are on pace to lose 100 games, but these kids weren’t here for all of them. They’re not responsible for the past 17 years; so I figure, let them enjoy today’s game.

    [quote comment=”350542″][quote comment=”350539″]I LOVE the new seahawks uniforms, greatest jerseys ever. I might have to buy one and wear it proudly.[/quote]

    I disagree with best ever…this board is going to be LIT up when the Bucs wear their creamsicles.

    I might just have to fire up the ole DIY machine for one of those jammies.[/quote]

    I lived in the Tampa Bay area during the era of the creamsicle uniforms, and very few Buccaneer fans ever complained about the color scheme. But many fans absolutely hated the Bucco Bruce logo on the helmet.

    i loved the Bucco Bruce logo. my 9th grade football team was also the Buccaneers and we had a royal blue Bucco Bruce logo. i thought it was completely cool to have a helmet that looked so similar to an NFL team’s.

    when they switched to the red and pewter unis, i liked them but something about them bugged me. i could never put a finger on it until my wife at the time (of all people, it had to be someone who absolutely hates sports) commented that they looked like a 49ers knock-off.

    Hines Ward wearing his receiver gloves during warm-ups today. It has both the NFL equipment logo and a NIKE logo. Whats up with this? heres the link to it on espn.com:

    link

    Colts WR Pierre Garçon appears to have the cedille on the “C” on his NOB [“GARÇON”]. Any precedent for this in the NFL?

    [quote comment=”350548″]Hines Ward wearing his receiver gloves during warm-ups today. It has both the NFL equipment logo and a NIKE logo. Whats up with this? heres the link to it on espn.com:

    link

    Nike has onfield licenses for shoes and gloves.

    [quote comment=”350539″]I LOVE the new seahawks uniforms, greatest jerseys ever. I might have to buy one and wear it proudly.[/quote]

    I am gonna have to go with the current Chargers power-blue throwback as the absolute coolest uni look ever. Don’t confuse coolest with classic- that’s reserved for old line teams like the Colts, Packers, Bears, and yes, the white Cowboys look, to me a classic.

    But those powder blue Bolts are great.

    [quote comment=”350549″]link?[/quote]

    I dunno bout that- but one guy on TV did refer to them as the “Orlando Thunder.”

    Just took the survey. Decided to make a bell curve to even things out. Funny, my best and worst in AFC are both in the South. Indy 5, Jax 0. NFC: GB 5, Ari 0.

    Best Division: AFC West-13 total, Worst: NFC West-7.

    Also didn’t realize that I liked KC (4)and NYJ (4) and didn’t care for NE (2) or SD (2) so much.

    -Greenie

    [quote comment=”350550″]Colts WR Pierre Garçon appears to have the cedille on the “C” on his NOB [“GARÇON”]. Any precedent for this in the NFL?[/quote]

    I was wondering the same thing and according to the most reputable source I could find, he’s the first.

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    [quote comment=”350554″]Just took the survey. Decided to make a bell curve to even things out. Funny, my best and worst in AFC are both in the South. Indy 5, Jax 0. NFC: GB 5, Ari 0.

    Best Division: AFC West-13 total, Worst: NFC West-7.

    Also didn’t realize that I liked KC (4)and NYJ (4) and didn’t care for NE (2) or SD (2) so much.

    -Greenie[/quote]

    Yeah, I was surprised to find KC and NYJ were my two favorites in the AFC. I gave the nod to the Jets. Bills were the zero.

    GB was my 5 in the NFC. Lions were the zero, which is a shame, since they used to look great in the pre-Millen years.

    Asked my wife what she thought of the Seahawks.
    Big clear shot of Seneca Wallace throwing the ball.

    Response:

    “I don’t like it ’cause it’s green. It looks like a bug. A bright green bug.”

    Bottom line.

    [quote comment=”350432″]What where the green football patches that the NCAA coaches wore on their sleeves?[/quote]

    It has to do with an initiative to fight MS “Coach for a Cure”.

    Those were all temporary patches (stickers) designed for one-week use only. Strict instruction to remove them before washing…

    [quote comment=”350492″]I like the Seahawks jersey. Like I said above, it gives some much needed brightness to their uniform set.

    I especially like it on players wearing green trim (gloves, shoes, etc).

    My only complaint – I don’t like the blue sleeves – I think the jerseys would look better in solid green.[/quote]

    Mike, I 99% agree with you. I’m ok with the blue sleeves, but they would look better in solid green. Also, maybe blue numbers with white trim instead. I’m glad they wore blue pants instead of white pants.

    [quote comment=”350527″]All is well. The Seahawks lost 25-19 in their horseshit ugly green jerseys. DA’ BEARZZZZZZZZZ![/quote]

    Shame. Remember when the Jets broke out their alts vs. Philly 2 years ago and lost in them?People thought the jerseys would get dumped in the trash after 1 bad try, like the 1980-1997 shit they wore.Now with this win over the “oil stains”, they are 4-1 in them. I regret passing up a leon Washington Titans jersey for a Kellen Clemens Jets jersey. I think that fans in Seattle will feel the same way about the jerseys. I would give up my prized Expos jersey for a Lofa Tatupu neon jersey right now.

    [quote comment=”350530″][quote comment=”350527″]All is well. The Seahawks lost 25-19 in their horseshit ugly green jerseys. DA’ BEARZZZZZZZZZ![/quote]
    To celebrate, I shall wolf down 25 pounds of Polish SAHsage, my friend. One for every point scored by the beloved today.

    link gives the thumbs-up.

    It’s a good thing for Seattle that a certain link no longer patrols the sidelines. Otherwise, the score would have been somewhere in the neighborhood of 783 to negative 37.[/quote]

    I have a friend who is a die hard Bears fan (can you believe I even hang out with this guy as a Packer fan?) Anyways, he dresses up as A Certain Coach Ditka every year for Halloween on State Street in Madison. (it’s crazy down there) HE has the slicked hair, the shades, a clipboard, and retro Bears sweater vest. It also turns out that this friend and I share the same birthday, which is also the birth of that Certain Coach!

    [quote comment=”350561″]
    I have a friend who is a die hard Bears fan (can you believe I even hang out with this guy as a Packer fan?)[/quote]
    Honestly, aren’t there times you just want to kick his ass? I know that’s the way it is with some of my friends/coworkers who are Packers fans. 99.99999% of the time everything’s cool, but there are just… those… times…

    And then there are the Vikings fans. I was in a fantasy football league with some people from work but I had to get out because of a certain lover of the purple and gold who sat a little to close to me.

    I LOVE it!!! The Greenies have been worn one day and we are are already tweaking them!!! I say Keep the jersey color scheme the same and make the pants white

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    [quote comment=\”350544\”][quote comment=\”350539\”]I LOVE the new seahawks uniforms, greatest jerseys ever. I might have to buy one and wear it proudly.[/quote]

    I\’d wear one, too. Someone mentioned he\’d like to see a green helmet – if the logo stayed blue that might be interesting.[/quote]

    I am surprised i was not ridiculed for saying that, back when i posted on the one in April when it was a joke, everyone thought i was a nutjob.

    honestly, if the rest of the uniform weren’t all blue, I would be okay with the green alternate. The jersey in itself gives a bad first impression, but after the shock of “woah, neon green” wears off, it’s really not a bad jersey.

    How do you have a blog about uniforms and not mention the Nebraska Cornhusker uniforms from the past weekend. They celebrated their 300th consecutive sellout by going retro.

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