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Design A Cap Contest

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By Phil Hecken

Little bit of a different entry today. While I don’t normally have readers contact me with requests for my graphical talents, mainly because I don’t have any, (usually the fantastic graphics in my pieces are done by others), what follows was one of those rare times. Shortly before Uni Watch went on Summer Vacation, I received an e-mail from Jerome Nemanich, who is the head baseball coach in Sartell, MN. Jerome approached me with a most intriguing idea — help him design a cap for his baseball team. Flattered though I was, I immediately thought this was a job for you guys. Here’s what took place in that original e-mail and how this contest came to be:

Phil,

My name is Jerome Nemanich, I’m the head baseball coach in Sartell, MN. I was wondering if you could help us with a possible new hat logo for the 2010 season. I follow your work on Uni watch.

I enclosed our alternate hat mock-up from the game from last year (look here and here.). Our main hat had the same S, just all Royal with white “S” and white eyelets. I’ve also enclosed a couple of ideas I’ve had. The old Spokane Indian “S” and possible going with the UVA look. Our nick name is the Sabres.

We have three uni tops-

Whitelooks like old royals sleeveless, 3 color shadowd lettering script.

BlueLike Texas Rangers blue with Pittsburgh font.

Grey — Same as blue, a different font. Piping is Blue/White/Blue.

I can’t offer cash but will offer a lid if you come up with a cool idea.

Thanks,
Jerome Nemanich

Tempted as I was to try my hand at designing a cap logo, I wrote Coach Nemanich back and asked if he thought the “design a cap” might be something the graphic designers (and readers) who frequent UW would like to try their hand at. Jerome wrote back that he’d have to check with his AD, but thought it wouldn’t be a problem. Turns out, he thought a “Design A Cap Contest” might just be a great idea. I also asked him about his teams uniforms, sensing perhaps a “design a uni” contest might follow, but alas, ’twas not to be. Jerome wrote:

I like all the work that I’ve seen you do on Uni watch, we won’t get new Uni’s for 3 more years but I may be ok with a contest down the road with Uni’s too. I just got the new Russell catalog for 2010 today, boy are there some ugly uni’s coming out. They also have a pullover mock button down jersey so they can sew the artwork across the jersey better. There are actual buttons on the front but they don’t open.

Ah well, the unis will have to wait, but he gave the go-ahead for the Design A Cap contest.

So, lets see what you guys can come up with! You’ve seen what they have worn, and you see the ideas that Jerome has in mind. That leaves a pretty open canvas to give it a shot. You could probably use the templates Coach provided or you could always use one of these.

I won’t set a time limit on this contest, but I would hope everyone could get me your submissions within the next couple of weeks. And if Mr. Nemanich likes your design, he’ll send you a cap for your efforts! Pretty schweet, huh?

So get your crayons out, fire up your computers, or use your protractors — as long as you can come up with a design, and you can e-mail it to me, it will be considered. You can also send me multiple submissions. In a couple of weeks (or whenever the contest appears to be over), I’ll post your submissions.

Send them to me and please put in the “SUBJECT” line “Cap Contest”. If you have questions about the contest, post them in the comments (that way others who may have the same questions can see them) or you can always e-mail me. Obviously, Coach Nemanich will be the one with the final say in the design.

Good Luck!

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OK, last weekend Ricko and I gave you our five NFL uniforms most in need of a tweak (or one less bumper sticker), and tomorrow you are going to be treated to an OUTSTANDING new uniform idea from Ricko. But today, I’m going to bring you a few more NFL teams whose uniforms don’t really suffer from the OMBS (“One More Bumper Sticker”) syndrome, but are oh so close to being just right — at least as far as their uniforms go. Some of these teams are just missing one small detail, others suffer from perhaps one too many details (OMBS), and others simply just don’t quite “get it.” With that, then, here are a few more teams who could use a teensy tiny fix or two:

New Orleans Saints: The Saints have some classic unis, and i really like them. They’re not BFBS, but there is just one little problem. Maybe two. First, when they wear black pants, the pants are devoid of any kind of stripe, and they like to wear black leggings, giving them the leotard look. They also have the propensity towards the monochrome leotard look (although, to my knowledge, this season they haven’t broken out the black pants yet). But we know they will, it’s only a matter of time. So, to fix the Saints, I propose they place a simple stripe on them, and ditch the black leggings in favor of white striped socks. It’s not even a new concept, they used to sport a similar look. And there was nothing wrong with that look. One other slight tweak I would offer for the Saints (other than never wearing monochrome black), would be to add a white stripe to the thick black stripe on their pants (they currently look like this). Finally, the fact that the old gold on the helmet or the pants does NOT match the old gold numbers really bothers me. So, as long as we add the stripe to the gold pants, lets get that gold on the jersey to match the gold on the helmet. See? Minor tweaks can really make that uni sharp!

Carolina Panthers: Most, if not all, of you will disagree with me on this one, I’m sure, but I really dislike the pointy, truncated pants stripe. I know, I know, they’ve always had this look. I also greatly dislike how some players have truncated sleeve loops, while others sport full loops. The full loops look much better. So what’s my tweak? It’s real simple: Eliminate the pointy pants stripes, and just make sure everyone has full shoulder loops (even if you have to taper them). And as far as uniforms go, I think that all white uniform is one of the BEST in the NFL. All it needs is real pants stripes.

St. Louis Rams: I never really liked the Rams switch in color and uni scheme after they won Super Bowl XXXIV. However, in the past couple of years, they gone away from wearing their standard gold pants and have begun wearing blue and white pants. The blue pants are worn with short white socks and blue leggings, producing the dreaded leotard look, and both the blue and white pants have stripes while the gold ones do not. Some of you may like this quirkiness, but I do not. I’m fine with them having three sets of pants to choose from, so long as they don’t pair the blue pants with the blue top. But lets get some consistency. The fix? Lets put a stripe on the gold pants. Much better. For the blue pants let’s narrow that stripe a tad and give them some white socks with a complimentary stripe. Finally, for the white pants, lets put a classic Rams stripe on there. There you go — three pairs of pants, not quite identical, but with much more consistency. I’d still like the yellow-gold and royalish blue to return, but keeping the current colors, this works better.

Cleveland Browns: I’m not going to touch their sleeve striping — Ricko will take care of that tomorrow. But, I do need to get to work on those “new” brown pants. Remember last preseason when the Browns broke out the brown pants? Well, Coach Mangenius apparently likes them, and he plans on having the team wear them on a semi-regular basis this year. But, unlike the leotard look, at least he’s had the good sense to put them in white socks. But, they’re still wearing those godawful brown pants. The solution? Well, a stripe on the pants is a start. But, should the order be orange-white-orange, or white-orange-white? Neither one of those looks all that great. What about simply two orange stripes which would replicate the brown-orange-brown-orange pattern on the sleeve and the socks? It’s a tough call. Maybe they just shouldn’t wear brown pants. That’s what the football gods are saying anyway. But if they ARE going to wear them, they need some kind of striping. And for the love of god, whatever they do this year, don’t go brown over brown. We’ve already heard the Mr. Hankey jokes. Let’s not let them come to fruition. (And on a completely unrelated note with the Browns, they were one of the few teams to sport the beautiful and classic white over white look — can’t they just stay with that as often as possible? That has to be one my my top-10 all time great NFL looks)

New England Patriots: Ok, here is what they should wear full time. But that’s not gonna happen. The Pats are one of those teams who feel that a side panel (even worse on the road uniform) is necessary. It’s not. I’m also not a fan of those weird, wide pants stripes. Solutions? First, lets remove that garish side panel. If you noticed the pants striping pattern in the throwbacks, it consisted of three thin stripes. Well, they could sorta go for that look or even “thinify” the wide stripe on the pants? Even if we keep the total stripe width the same, adding more red and white to them is a better look, IMHO. The home jersey just needs the red ‘pinstripes’ removed, but the pants stripe is still a little too arena league for me. So, we can simply add one strip of silver down the middle, or thinify the stripes with two blue stripes or keep a nice patriotic blue-red-blue pattern. Frankly, I think the red-blue-silver-blue-red looks pretty sharp.

Baltimore Ravens: Moving towards the penultimate tweak, the Ravens tweak is simple. They have a black-purple-black stripe on the white pants, but like the Saints, their black pants are stripeless and they like the leotard look. They also like the all-black leotard look. Solution? Simple, some kind of stripe on the pants, and white socks. It’s not like they didn’t sport that type of look at one time. Hell…they could call it their fauxback uni.

Tennessee Titans: OK — the final tweak. I don’t really so much mind the navy over white and I LOVE the white over powder blue. I really think that’s one of the all time good looks in the game, even though it’s relatively new. However, I hate their other looks, no matter if it’s navy over navy, powder over powder or mix and match. So I’m not touching those. But for the two combos I do like, how about we simply remove the “yoke”? Now that’s a classic look, right? How about on the white over powder? Man, that looks like an NFL uniform right there. I won’t say I love their helmet (a few teams sport the “fading stripe” look), but just imagine what would happen if they went with a solid center stripe? Too Penn State-ish? Not for me.

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Mercifully for you, thus endeth my uni tweaks. But I think you’d have to agree with at least a couple of them. Each team still retains it’s unique color scheme, but I simply remove or tweak what I feel is the one or two things wrong with an otherwise excellent or pretty damn good uniform. I’m sure you’ll disagree, at least on a couple. That’s fine. If teams would just knock off the monochrome look, or the leotard look, I’d be happy. And if those few teams who feel stripes are anthema, well, I took it upon myself to correct that. Feel free to tell me where to go. I’m ready. Fire away.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: Once again, I gotta apologize in advance if I gave you today’s Guess The Game game already. I don’t think so. Even so, it would have been a while ago. Pretty sure also that this one came from Squiddie. Anyway, you know what to do. Date, location and final score. Please link to Retrosheet or Baseball Almanac if applicable. Ready? Guess The Game. Got a couple new ones from SlimandSlam (he’ll be doing the honors tomorrow), but I’m still always looking out for new scoreboard games. If you have one, send ’em my way. Thanks.

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benchies header Ricko’s back with Benchies, but I’m pretty sure this one come from his “way back machine.” But that’s OK, because they’re all new to us. And even Ricko’s oldies are still goodies. So, now, we take you back in time when the greatest two-sport athlete ruled the ad world too. I think you know who I’m talking about. Enjoy your Saturday Benchies.

“A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.” Groucho Marx

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Whew. Another short post. But if you made it this far, you made it to the end. Don’t forget to try your hand at the “Design A Cap” contest — maybe you’ll win a prize. Don’t worry about the quality of your work or the skill of your craftsmanship. But do give it a shot! This should be a really fun contest and I bet we get a number of great submissions.

Have a great Saturday. Don’t forget to check back tomorrow — got a really kick-ass post with Ricko you will NOT want to miss.

 

187 comments to Design A Cap Contest

  • bartusball | September 19, 2009 at 7:50 am |

    In honor of international talk like a pirate day, I present Dork Tower

  • Hibbsy | September 19, 2009 at 8:44 am |

    Carolina’s helmet stripes are terrible.
    I also hate that they have no silver on their whites. They have a silver helmet, a rather large portion (and rather important) of the uniform, and it isn’t represented anywhere.

  • Hibbsy | September 19, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    I prefer stripe consistency throughout.
    I think that helmets and pants should sync most of the time (sleeves with the socks). If not, helmet to sock, sleeve to pants.

  • scott | September 19, 2009 at 8:54 am |

    I wouldn’t change a thing about the Patriots’ current uniforms. Those are the uniforms of champions.

  • Hibbsy | September 19, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    [quote comment=”348868″]I wouldn’t change a thing about the Patriots’ current uniforms. Those are the uniforms of champions.[/quote]
    They may be champions, but they don’t look it. They have mega uniform problems, especially on the road.
    Like the Panthers absence of silver, how do you have the color of your helmet only represented on a little collar piping?

  • Oakville Endive | September 19, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”348868″]I wouldn’t change a thing about the Patriots’ current uniforms. Those are the uniforms of champions.[/quote]

    My initial impression when I first saw New England’s current uniform (it was a H of F game – I believe), I thought “that’s a uniform that won’t last” – i.e it was a weak attempt – and that New England was becoming the equivalent of the San Diego Padres in the 1970’s & 1980’s i.e. changing their uniforms every few years. Unfortunately they did one unforeseen thing with those uni’s, they started to win. Much tougher to get rid of an uninspired uni with that overhang.

  • Nick | September 19, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    Phil:

    I’m tempted to say I wouldn’t care if the Browns wore tutus as long as they win…

    If Mangenius insists on the brown pants why not replicate the striping on the helmet? One white stripe between two brown stripes with two orange stripes outside of that?

    If it was my call I’d just go back to what Ozzie is wearing on that SI cover – the whole kit. Looking forward to Ricko’s tweaks tomorrow.

  • nat | September 19, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    Sartell Sabres, huh? Well I’ve got just the logo. might seem a bit dated, though.

  • nat | September 19, 2009 at 9:42 am |
  • Helmets Match Pants | September 19, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    The Patriots could make a world of difference with what they have in stock now by simply wearing the silver pants with the white jersey. There are very few instances of any NFL uniform looking good with pants of any color than white, silver, or gold (or fake gold like the Steelers).

    The only exceptions are mainly historical (Chiefs red, Browns orange) and if you notice in all of these cases the helmets match the pants.

    In the Patriots case (I am a fan and hate the new uniforms, BTW), the stripes on the silver pants even work with the silly side panel on the white jersey, so just ditch the navy pants please!

  • JimV19 | September 19, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”348868″]I wouldn’t change a thing about the Patriots’ current uniforms. Those are the uniforms of champions.[/quote]

    You mean they look like this now? http://sportsfly.fil... ;)

    I like the tweaks, but here’s an idea – the throwbacks look more like the British Redcoats to some of you? How about the old design with the new colors?

  • Jeff E. | September 19, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    One other change I would make to the Saints’ uniform is to take the fleur-de-lis off the pants. Having it on the helmet, sleeves, and pants is overkill in my opinion.

  • Jeff E. | September 19, 2009 at 9:58 am |

    Add the Panthers to my comment too.

  • JimV19 | September 19, 2009 at 9:58 am |

    Phil, great stuff! Up until the Titans, that is. I like the shoulder yoke, but I don’t like the number font. If you keep the yoke, give them regular block numbers and a double helmet stripe that doesn’t fade, now there’s a winner.

    I agree with your comments about the color combos. I could see the navy over navy or mix and match only with a powder helmet, but my first suggestion would be better, IMO.

    I prefer the old Rams, but the new ones are a close second. Didn’t think I’d like the white pants, but last week was my first time I got to see them for more than a few highlights.

    And, as much as it pains this Steelers fan to say it, that 80s Browns white on white http://i.cdn.turner.... is a classic beauty.

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”348874″]The Patriots could make a world of difference with what they have in stock now by simply wearing the silver pants with the white jersey. There are very few instances of any NFL uniform looking good with pants of any color than white, silver, or gold (or fake gold like the Steelers).

    The only exceptions are mainly historical (Chiefs red, Browns orange) and if you notice in all of these cases the helmets match the pants.

    In the Patriots case (I am a fan and hate the new uniforms, BTW), the stripes on the silver pants even work with the silly side panel on the white jersey, so just ditch the navy pants please![/quote]I agree with you that the Pats’ blue pants need to go, but not because I think the colors you mentioned are the only acceptable ones to go with white jerseys. If the Pats’ helmets were blue, I think blue pants could work, but silver would not.

    When wearing a white jersey, the pants should either be white or the same color as the helmet. That’s one of the reasons I love/hate the Steelers’ unis. I like their yellow pants with the black jerseys, but I really don’t like the way those pants look with the white jerseys. I think black pants would look a hell of a lot better with them.

    I’ve never been a fan of color/white/different color (e.g. this).

    Color/different color/white (e.g. this) is OK, though

  • mike 2 | September 19, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    I might be the only one, but I liked the first patriots “flying elvis” look, the one they wore in the 1997 Super Bowl. Royal blue looked much richer, the right colour pants with a better stripe, elvis on the shoulders, and most of all the subtle stripes on the jerseys. That was (IMO) a great look for them.

  • JimV19 | September 19, 2009 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”348876″]One other change I would make to the Saints’ uniform is to take the fleur-de-lis off the pants. Having it on the helmet, sleeves, and pants is overkill in my opinion.[/quote]

    I don’t know, I kinda like it. I also liked this fleur-de-lis treatment, http://www.icejersey... that might be a bit much for a football jersey…

    I liked the old state logo http://product.image... they had in the 80s.

  • Helmets Match Pants | September 19, 2009 at 10:07 am |

    If the Pats helmets were blue, blue pants would look better than silver – but it would look like a college team!

    Helmets should always match pants – other than white pants.

    That’s why the Chiefs look bad in all white. They look too top-heavy with the red helmet (especially without a helmet stripe).

    The only exception I am almost willing to grant is the Dolphins’ aqua pants, which actually look ok even though the helmet is white. Of course, the Dolphins look a lot better in all white.

    The Steelers are tough since they chose such a crappy color for their pants. That is why I lump them in with gold since they don’t look terrible with the current uniform set, but you can see how much better they would look with white pants when they wear their throwbacks.

  • The Jeff | September 19, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    I think the Browns need to ditch the brown pants entirely. Better with stripes than without, but they’re still ugly. They also need to ditch the white ones. Orange pants all the way, and go back to the white facemask.

    As for the Panthers… the only way I’d want to see them change anything is if they were allowed to get rid of the white uniform entirely. I’d stick them in all-silver instead of white. The Patriots have used silver in place of white as an alternate jersey, why not let a team do it full time? Of course I’d love to go a step further and see the whole NFL play color vs color with the only white jerseys being used as alternates by teams like the Colts… but I’m probably in the minority there.

    …and leave the Titans alone.

    I think I actually agree with the rest of the fixes today.

  • The Jeff | September 19, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”348879″]

    I’ve never been a fan of color/white/different color (e.g. this).

    Color/different color/white (e.g. this) is OK, though[/quote]

    You still have to give the Lions a point for wearing *gray* socks instead of just using their regular blue ones.

  • JimV19 | September 19, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”348879″][quote comment=”348874″]When wearing a white jersey, the pants should either be white or the same color as the helmet. That’s one of the reasons I love/hate the Steelers’ unis. I like their yellow pants with the black jerseys, but I really don’t like the way those pants look with the white jerseys. I think black pants would look a hell of a lot better with them.[/quote]

    I’d rather see a yellow helmet than black pants. I know they’ve won all their Super Bowls in black helmets, but this is one fan who would rather see the old ones.

  • The Jeff | September 19, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    One more comment….

    for the Saints, why didn’t you just say you wanted this:
    http://www.geocities...

    with a single matching shade of gold. Much quicker…

  • J.D. | September 19, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    Phil, the problem with all your NFL uniform suggestions is that there’s no room for uniqueness. Not everybody should have a plain jersey top and the same width pants stripes. Classic looks look good partly because modern uniforms exist to contrast them with; unobtrusive details like the Patriots’ unique pant stripe or the Titans’ yoke are the details that set those uniforms apart.

  • JimV19 | September 19, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”348886″]One more comment….

    for the Saints, why didn’t you just say you wanted this:
    http://www.geocities...

    with a single matching shade of gold. Much quicker…[/quote]

    My anti-spam word says it best – FINE.

    Maybe a fleur-de-lis on the stripes, though? Either way, it’s mighty fine.

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    Phil,

    Nice choice of teams to tweak, but I think you’re focusing on the wrong aspects of most of the teams.

    Here are some very simple tweaks that would improve each team’s overall look.

    Saints:
    Matching gold on the jersey is a great idea.

    Lose the black pants entirely. If they must have an alternate set of trousers, go with white.

    For the gold pants, I like the idea of the white stripe down the middle of that huge black stripe, but get rid of the fleur de lis on the hip. It’s already on the sleeves and helmet.

    Panthers:
    Take the logos off the sleeves and hips and move the TV numbers from the shoulders to the sleeves.

    Either remove the helmet stripes entirely or make them go all the way to the back of the helmet.

    Rams:
    I hated the redesign when I first saw it, but it only took a couple weeks for it to grow on me. I still prefer the previous version, but I actually like the current set. I think by far, it’s the best redesign of the last 20 years.

    Anyway, there’s one thing I would change. Take the logo off the sleeves and bring back the horns with the TV numbers inside. I think this could look especially sharp on the white jerseys.

    Browns:
    No brown pants. Ever. Like the Saints, if they must have a second set, bring back the orange, but only wear them with the white jerseys.

    Patriots:
    I like the tweaks, but take Elvis off the sleeves and move the TV numbers there. Also, no blue pants at all, white only if they insist on a second set.

    Ravens:
    I agree with these tweaks, but I think this is a team that needs more than just tweaking. I think their colors are fine, but their number font is terrible, the helmet logo is also bad and although I like the crest on the sleeves, it really gives the unis the OMBS look.

    Titans:
    Stick with powder or white pants. The navy don’t look good with any combination they wear. Lose them.

    Change the helmet completely, starting with the logo. Like the Panthers, they need to pick a lane with the stripes: either full ones or none at all. Maybe they should take note of the AFL throwbacks they’re wearing this year and go with powder blue instead of white.

    Also, they should remove the sleeve logo and put the TV numbers there. The yoke can stay.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    Agree with a number of posts, the number one thing I’d change with Pats would be minimize use of the navy pants.

    And the original flying Elvis with royal jerseys indeed was a far better looking uni than people give it credit for being. We often gripe here about tems switching to navy from royal, yet somehow the Pats always get a pass when in fact they were among the first NFL teams to do it.

    Speaking of royal blue, don’t forget there’s college football on Versus, too. First game today is Duke at Kansas (noon ET). Can’t remember last Duke was “on the teevee”. And Kansas, with their odd number font and all, is one of those uni that shouldn’t look good, but somehow it does. Maybe cuz it’s a look that, whatever it is, is theirs alone.

    Don’t know about “this should always match that” theory. As soon as you say something like that you look up and see three teams that break the rule and look pretty good. Really is a team by team thing.

    re: Lions getting points for gray socks with those stupid blue pants. Oh, I suppose. But if they put that much thought into it, you’d like to think they’d have realized the look just didn’t work.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | September 19, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”348887″]Phil, the problem with all your NFL uniform suggestions is that there’s no room for uniqueness. Not everybody should have a plain jersey top and the same width pants stripes. Classic looks look good partly because modern uniforms exist to contrast them with; unobtrusive details like the Patriots’ unique pant stripe or the Titans’ yoke are the details that set those uniforms apart.[/quote]

    I see where you’re coming from with this. Yeah, I love the 50s Giants look, but I wouldn’t want every team to look like that. I’d like to see some teams go classic, some go a little crazy (I’m talkin’ lime green and dark blue Seahawks or the Las Vegas Locomotives) and the rest do something in between.

  • Juke Early | September 19, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    I just want to add an atta boy. The fact that a coach views this great site as a means to designing a cap is the ultimate compliment for you. UVA crossed sabers, rocking the V is an excellent logo, and the curve of an S would work well, even w/one sword under it. The main problem will be choosing the best, because the guys who do it here are amazing. That school is about to luck out big time ;-)

  • JimV19 | September 19, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”348889″]Phil,

    Nice choice of teams to tweak, but I think you’re focusing on the wrong aspects of most of the teams.

    Here are some very simple tweaks that would improve each team’s overall look.

    Saints:
    Matching gold on the jersey is a great idea.

    Lose the black pants entirely. If they must have an alternate set of trousers, go with white.

    For the gold pants, I like the idea of the white stripe down the middle of that huge black stripe, but get rid of the fleur de lis on the hip. It’s already on the sleeves and helmet.

    Panthers:
    Take the logos off the sleeves and hips and move the TV numbers from the shoulders to the sleeves.

    Either remove the helmet stripes entirely or make them go all the way to the back of the helmet.

    Rams:
    I hated the redesign when I first saw it, but it only took a couple weeks for it to grow on me. I still prefer the previous version, but I actually like the current set. I think by far, it’s the best redesign of the last 20 years.

    Anyway, there’s one thing I would change. Take the logo off the sleeves and bring back the horns with the TV numbers inside. I think this could look especially sharp on the white jerseys.

    Browns:
    No brown pants. Ever. Like the Saints, if they must have a second set, bring back the orange, but only wear them with the white jerseys.

    Patriots:
    I like the tweaks, but take Elvis off the sleeves and move the TV numbers there. Also, no blue pants at all, white only if they insist on a second set.

    Ravens:
    I agree with these tweaks, but I think this is a team that needs more than just tweaking. I think their colors are fine, but their number font is terrible, the helmet logo is also bad and although I like the crest on the sleeves, it really gives the unis the OMBS look.

    Titans:
    Stick with powder or white pants. The navy don’t look good with any combination they wear. Lose them.

    Change the helmet completely, starting with the logo. Like the Panthers, they need to pick a lane with the stripes: either full ones or none at all. Maybe they should take note of the AFL throwbacks they’re wearing this year and go with powder blue instead of white.

    Also, they should remove the sleeve logo and put the TV numbers there. The yoke can stay.[/quote]

    Very rare that I can find a post of this length where I agree with everything! Good to know there’s another “TV number on the sleeves” guy out there. The only thing I would add is that the Titans’ numbers are as bad as the Ravens’.

  • Jeff E. | September 19, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    I probably would be in the minority here, but I think the Titans could use a little of that orangish-red they have for the stars on their helmet(as homage to the TN flag and to the old Oilers team). I’m not even sure if it’s officially part of their color scheme, but maybe adding that color as as small stripe at the end of the sleeves or on the collar would some nice contrast.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    The point with the tweaks Phil and I did last week, and Phil this week, never was that, by god, every stinkin’ one ought to be adopted. Just that if any of these teams were to change, these are the kind of things we recommend. Nobody wants a cookie-cutter league (see UFL, ugh).

    Titans? Just don’t wear the all navy, and be brave, wear the white over white combo once in a while (lord knows its in their indirect genes; the Oilers wore white-over-white for years).

    For both Ravens and Jags, the solution is really simple. Stop farting around with added black and go back to your original unis. Okay, Ravens logo would be different, yes (too bad, too; still like that “gothic” winged shield).

    —Ricko

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”348893″][/quote]

    Very rare that I can find a post of this length where I agree with everything! Good to know there’s another “TV number on the sleeves” guy out there. The only thing I would add is that the Titans’ numbers are as bad as the Ravens’.[/quote]
    The Titans’ numbers don’t really bother me for some reason. Nor do the Rams’. I’m not sure why.

    Anyway, I don’t always think the TV numbers should be on the sleeves, but if there’s no stripe or decoration on the sleeve, that’s where I think they should go.

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    Oops. Screwed up the quote tags. Better?
    [quote comment=”348896″]
    Very rare that I can find a post of this length where I agree with everything! Good to know there’s another “TV number on the sleeves” guy out there. The only thing I would add is that the Titans’ numbers are as bad as the Ravens’.[/quote]
    The Titans’ numbers don’t really bother me for some reason. Nor do the Rams’. I’m not sure why.

    Anyway, I don’t always think the TV numbers should be on the sleeves, but if there’s no stripe or decoration on the sleeve, that’s where I think they should go.

  • Atticus | September 19, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    These Browns unis were always pretty stellar and I’d love to see them make a return


    Brown Jersey/Orange Pants

  • The Jeff | September 19, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”348895″]
    For both Ravens and Jags, the solution is really simple. Stop farting around with added black and go back to your original unis.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    It’s a shame a certain car company had to whine. The Jags original helmets were much cooler than what they ended up with.

    https://www.profootb...

    Although, I suppose it would have been weird to have 2 expansion teams both wearing silver helmets.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”348886″]One more comment….

    for the Saints, why didn’t you just say you wanted this:
    http://www.geocities...

    with a single matching shade of gold. Much quicker…[/quote]

    Cuz Saints no longer have sleeve stripes, maybe?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”348899″][quote comment=”348895″]
    For both Ravens and Jags, the solution is really simple. Stop farting around with added black and go back to your original unis.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    It’s a shame a certain car company had to whine. The Jags original helmets were much cooler than what they ended up with.

    https://www.profootb...

    Although, I suppose it would have been weird to have 2 expansion teams both wearing silver helmets.[/quote]

    I didn’t mean THAT original, LOL.

  • Ryan B | September 19, 2009 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”348890″]And the original flying Elvis with royal jerseys indeed was a far better looking uni than people give it credit for being. We often gripe here about teams switching to navy from royal, yet somehow the Pats always get a pass when in fact they were among the first NFL teams to do it.[/quote]
    If you’re talking about the very first iteration (c. 1993, I think) then I agree with you – the Pats looked really sharp. Even the pants striping was cool (half-red, half blue, to mimic the trailing edge of the logo). Then they had to go and ruin it by putting those big-ass Flying Elvis patches on the shoulders and changing the number style (still in use today by the Carolina Hurricanes, BTW). I’m almost glad the Pats lost the Super Bowl to the Packers that year, because if they had won it I’m sure we’d still have those monstrosities now.

  • Goalie007 | September 19, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    1) The Pats Flying Elvis unis fall squarely into the “god-awful Arena League” category. Go back to the Pat Patriot – era unis they wore in week 1 already!

    2) Browns – lose the brown pants, now!

    3) Baltimore Raven faux throwbacks? They’re called the Cleveland Browns-

  • James Craven | September 19, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    Does Mankini want the Browns to wear orange and brown verically striped Oompa Loompa socks with the brown pants?

    [/sarcasm]

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    Uh-oh, I broke something.

  • The Ol Goaler | September 19, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    “Guess The Game” — Nothing’s better than Opening Day!

    I, also, wish the Rams had stuck with their Super Bowl-winning unis… the crappiness of their current mix-and-match matches the crappiness of the team itself…

  • The Jeff | September 19, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”348907″]“Guess The Game” — Nothing’s better than Opening Day!

    I, also, wish the Rams had stuck with their Super Bowl-winning unis… the crappiness of their current mix-and-match matches the crappiness of the team itself…[/quote]

    I always hated how much darker the helmet was on those compared to the rest of it. I officially say they aren’t allowed to go back to those unless they make the blue on the helmet match.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”348907″]“Guess The Game” — Nothing’s better than Opening Day!

    I, also, wish the Rams had stuck with their Super Bowl-winning unis… the crappiness of their current mix-and-match matches the crappiness of the team itself…[/quote]

    Ah-ha, that would have been the debut of the Reds’ white hats with their vests (had worn red hats in ’56)…as well as the Cards return to “birds on bat” after one season of just Cardinals script.
    http://www.coverbrow...
    ’56 Cards…
    http://www.baseball-...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”348908″][quote comment=”348907″]“Guess The Game” — Nothing’s better than Opening Day!

    I, also, wish the Rams had stuck with their Super Bowl-winning unis… the crappiness of their current mix-and-match matches the crappiness of the team itself…[/quote]

    I always hated how much darker the helmet was on those compared to the rest of it. I officially say they aren’t allowed to go back to those unless they make the blue on the helmet match.[/quote]

    Back then, every team that wore royal had essentially a navy helmet…Giants, Air Coryell Chargers, Rams and others (were pretty much same color helmets as Bears; compare them and see what I mean). Always figured it had something to do with what could—and could not—be done with plastic at the time.

    But then along came the Bronocs’ helmets (Elway years) that were so much brighter and actually looked like royal blue…which shot my theory out of the water.

    —Ricko

  • Giancarlo | September 19, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”348904″]
    Seriously, that was a great looking uni. One of the few times any football team with a classic uni did something as drastic as changing the pants color and damned if it didn’t look just as good as its predecessor.
    —Ricko[/quote]
    It looks OK there, but when they wore those pants with the white jerseys it was too much orange. As a kid, it irked me that a team called the Browns would wear predominately orange.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    Terrell Pryor warming up wearing a Pirates cap

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”348911″][quote comment=”348904″]
    Seriously, that was a great looking uni. One of the few times any football team with a classic uni did something as drastic as changing the pants color and damned if it didn’t look just as good as its predecessor.
    —Ricko[/quote]
    It looks OK there, but when they wore those pants with the white jerseys it was too much orange. As a kid, it irked me that a team called the Browns would wear predominately orange.[/quote]

    Oh, absolutely. But at least it wasn’t butt-ugly (there we go, another lousy pun) like the brown pants. :)

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”348909″][quote comment=”348907″]“Guess The Game” — Nothing’s better than Opening Day!

    I, also, wish the Rams had stuck with their Super Bowl-winning unis… the crappiness of their current mix-and-match matches the crappiness of the team itself…[/quote]

    Ah-ha, that would have been the debut of the Reds’ white hats with their vests (had worn red hats in ’56)…as well as the Cards return to “birds on bat” after one season of just Cardinals script.
    http://www.coverbrow...
    ’56 Cards…
    http://www.baseball-...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    To be clear, that’s the ’56 Cardinals uni on a ’57 card.
    Here’s a fifth series ’57 card (shot early in ’57 season) that shows what they returned to that year….
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”348900″][quote comment=”348886″]One more comment….

    for the Saints, why didn’t you just say you wanted this:
    http://www.geocities...

    with a single matching shade of gold. Much quicker…[/quote]

    Cuz Saints no longer have sleeve stripes, maybe?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    There’s a way the Saints could get an interesting combination of their current jersey AND their original jersey.
    http://farm3.static....
    Lots more on such things tomorrow.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”348895″]The point with the tweaks Phil and I did last week, and Phil this week, never was that, by god, every stinkin’ one ought to be adopted. Just that if any of these teams were to change, these are the kind of things we recommend. Nobody wants a cookie-cutter league (see UFL, ugh).

    Titans? Just don’t wear the all navy, and be brave, wear the white over white combo once in a while (lord knows its in their indirect genes; the Oilers wore white-over-white for years).

    For both Ravens and Jags, the solution is really simple. Stop farting around with added black and go back to your original unis. Okay, Ravens logo would be different, yes (too bad, too; still like that “gothic” winged shield).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    the point with these “tweaks” was also to try to keep them as minor as possible…i like some of the suggestions (and rejections) you guys have made so far

    as far as changing helmets, logos, colors, etc. — i wanted to avoid doing that

    im sure many of us feel some teams could use full overhauls …

    there were also some teams i didn’t touch at all, even though i’d like to, but the tweaks there would be more than minor (i didn’t even really want to touch the titans helmet, but i just threw that last one in for shits and giggles)

    there is on final idea, which is really ricko’s and which will appear tomorrow…which is more than having a little fun

    it’s a serious suggestion which WOULD WORK

    i hope someone from the NFL sees it

  • Giancarlo | September 19, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    Coincidentally, I just stumbled upon this ominous little bit of news reportage regarding the Browns’ uni on another message board:

    http://www.pfraforum...

  • UmpLou | September 19, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    for Sartell, nothing could be cooler than this…as long it is done properly, and does not end up looking like this or this -ugh

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”348918″]Coincidentally, I just stumbled upon this ominous little bit of news reportage regarding the Browns’ uni on another message board:

    http://www.pfraforum...

    Mangini said he decided on the radical look because he thought it looked good “and the guys felt the same way.” Players also find the brown pants more comfortable and less restrictive because of the absence of a stripe down the legs.

    My god, those old-time players must have been even better than we realized. How did they ever play with 3/4 sleeves and those heavy sleeve stripes and confining pants stripes? Think how great they’d have been if their movement hadn’t been so horribly restricted! Musta been like playing in cardboard suits. Those poor devils.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”348921″][quote comment=”348918″]Coincidentally, I just stumbled upon this ominous little bit of news reportage regarding the Browns’ uni on another message board:

    http://www.pfraforum...

    Mangini said he decided on the radical look because he thought it looked good “and the guys felt the same way.” Players also find the brown pants more comfortable and less restrictive because of the absence of a stripe down the legs.

    My god, those old-time players must have been even better than we realized. How did they ever play with 3/4 sleeves and those heavy sleeve stripes and confining pants stripes? Think how great they’d have been if their movement hadn’t been so horribly restricted! Musta been like playing in cardboard suits. Those poor devils.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    uh huh

    i realize, just like how rbk made the hockey players of today an outstanding 9% faster (or something like that), they’re trying to “enhance” player performance with the new jersey cuts

    look at how crappy, for example, my giants look, uni wise, with their new space age uni cuts…if you don’t know what im talking about, watch SNF tomorrow evening and you’ll see…paul has written about it a few times and there have been examples posted in the comments

  • Oprah Hate Me | September 19, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    How great it is to see the Golden Gophers playing football in an outdoor stadium!

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 12:14 pm |

    Minnesota-California is national game on espn right now.

    What are teams wearing? Hint: Kinda sorta a glimpse of what ’60 Broncos uni will look like.

    —Ricko

  • Rick | September 19, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    So, last week Minnesota went with the all mustard look, which was terrible. Today, the mustard jersey and maroon pants–is that really any better? What ever happened to a nice maroon jersey and white pants, all with gold/mustard trim? Their particular color of yellow is just too jarring to use as a primary color.

  • Hibbsy | September 19, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”348923″]How great it is to see the Golden Gophers playing football in an outdoor stadium![/quote]
    Not so good when both teams are dressed like that.

    North Carolina vs. East Carolina
    Isn’t East Carolina in North Carolina?
    Shouldn’t they be called East North Carolina?

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    btw, pretty sure this is first time Gophers have ever worn gold over maroon. Ever.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”348925″]So, last week Minnesota went with the all mustard look, which was terrible. Today, the mustard jersey and maroon pants–is that really any better? What ever happened to a nice maroon jersey and white pants, all with gold/mustard trim? Their particular color of yellow is just too jarring to use as a primary color.[/quote]

    It’s basic Athletic Gold, nothing special or unique. The two-tone scews things a little visually.

  • The Jeff | September 19, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    Speaking of college football… how long have the Buckeyes helmets been all sparkly?

    It looks freakin horrible.

  • M.Princip | September 19, 2009 at 12:26 pm |

    Nice job with those unis Phil. My favorite of your mods are what you did with the Ravens and Titans. However, I would not mess with the tapered center helmet stripes. I’ve really grown to like them, on both teams. Now, how about another look at the best Ravens uniform of all time.

  • Giancarlo | September 19, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”348921″]
    My god, those old-time players must have been even better than we realized. How did they ever play with 3/4 sleeves and those heavy sleeve stripes and confining pants stripes? Think how great they’d have been if their movement hadn’t been so horribly restricted! Musta been like playing in cardboard suits. Those poor devils.
    —Ricko[/quote]
    And apparently we’re currently witnessing an amazing streak of superhuman teams who have become Super Bowl champions despite the handicap of wearing pants stripes.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    Gophers are bit like seeing this…
    http://www.helmethut...

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”348927″]btw, pretty sure this is first time Gophers have ever worn gold over maroon. Ever.[/quote]

    kinda reminds me of this

    /ok not really…but 50 years ago they might have looked like this

  • mmwatkin | September 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    As far as the panthers go, I like the truncated stripes over the full loop stripe. When it goes under the arm it looks squished and forced. Especially when they meet at the seam and it forms a point.

    Yeah, I said it.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”348875″][quote comment=”348868″]I wouldn’t change a thing about the Patriots’ current uniforms. Those are the uniforms of champions.[/quote]

    You mean they look like this now? http://sportsfly.fil... ;)

    I like the tweaks, but here’s an idea – the throwbacks look more like the British Redcoats to some of you? How about the old design with the new colors?[/quote]

    Reason original Pats wore red was because someone in the AFL (or with the Pats) made a smart call. Had they worn blue, five of the eight original teams—including all four in the Eastern Division—would have worn some shade of blue.

    —Ricko

  • mmwatkin | September 19, 2009 at 12:42 pm |

    One thing I hate on uniforms (and the saints are guilty of this, as well as others) is when they put the helmet logo on the side of the shoulder. It creates redundancy.

    http://farm3.static....

  • The Jeff | September 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”348935″][quote comment=”348875″][quote comment=”348868″]I wouldn’t change a thing about the Patriots’ current uniforms. Those are the uniforms of champions.[/quote]

    You mean they look like this now? http://sportsfly.fil... ;)

    I like the tweaks, but here’s an idea – the throwbacks look more like the British Redcoats to some of you? How about the old design with the new colors?[/quote]

    Reason original Pats wore red was because someone in the AFL (or with the Pats) made a smart call. Had they worn blue, five of the eight original teams—including all four in the Eastern Division—would have worn some shade of blue.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    When they finally figure out time travel, someone needs to go back and swap the Bills and Patriots original jerseys. Things would make much more sense now, and we might even be able to avoid the flying elvis in the process.

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”348934″]As far as the panthers go, I like the truncated stripes over the full loop stripe. When it goes under the arm it looks squished and forced. Especially when they meet at the seam and it forms a point.

    Yeah, I said it.[/quote]

    how about a compromise then (like i did above): tapered loops

    here’s how that would look on the pats (who also like the truncated look)

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”348937″][quote comment=”348935″][quote comment=”348875″][quote comment=”348868″]I wouldn’t change a thing about the Patriots’ current uniforms. Those are the uniforms of champions.[/quote]

    You mean they look like this now? http://sportsfly.fil... ;)

    I like the tweaks, but here’s an idea – the throwbacks look more like the British Redcoats to some of you? How about the old design with the new colors?[/quote]

    Reason original Pats wore red was because someone in the AFL (or with the Pats) made a smart call. Had they worn blue, five of the eight original teams—including all four in the Eastern Division—would have worn some shade of blue.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    When they finally figure out time travel, someone needs to go back and swap the Bills and Patriots original jerseys. Things would make much more sense now, and we might even be able to avoid the flying elvis in the process.[/quote]

    I swear, in 1960, I had EXACTLY that thought.
    In fact, at first I thought the Bills WERE red, taking their cue from Georgia’s unis at the time.
    And that the Pats wore royal with white and red trim.

    Hey, cut me some slack, I only had black and white TV to work with…and no preseason pubs worth a damn cuz most people thought the AFL was a joke.

    A new league? That hadn’t been attempted for a helluva long time.

    —Ricko

  • Skycat | September 19, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”348921″][quote comment=”348918″]Coincidentally, I just stumbled upon this ominous little bit of news reportage regarding the Browns’ uni on another message board:

    http://www.pfraforum...

    Mangini said he decided on the radical look because he thought it looked good “and the guys felt the same way.” Players also find the brown pants more comfortable and less restrictive because of the absence of a stripe down the legs.

    My god, those old-time players must have been even better than we realized. How did they ever play with 3/4 sleeves and those heavy sleeve stripes and confining pants stripes? Think how great they’d have been if their movement hadn’t been so horribly restricted! Musta been like playing in cardboard suits. Those poor devils.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    If the stripe is the problem, why not have stripeless orange pants?

  • Giancarlo | September 19, 2009 at 1:04 pm |

    Speaking of which, I caught the re-broadcast of the Full Color Football AFL doc on Showtime last night. Fantastic! And highly uni-centric too. I think Uni Watch is having some kind of effect on the zeitgeist at the moment.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”348940″][quote comment=”348921″][quote comment=”348918″]Coincidentally, I just stumbled upon this ominous little bit of news reportage regarding the Browns’ uni on another message board:

    http://www.pfraforum...

    Mangini said he decided on the radical look because he thought it looked good “and the guys felt the same way.” Players also find the brown pants more comfortable and less restrictive because of the absence of a stripe down the legs.

    My god, those old-time players must have been even better than we realized. How did they ever play with 3/4 sleeves and those heavy sleeve stripes and confining pants stripes? Think how great they’d have been if their movement hadn’t been so horribly restricted! Musta been like playing in cardboard suits. Those poor devils.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    If the stripe is the problem, why not have stripeless orange pants?[/quote]

    Agreed.
    Although, LOL, some decison…
    “Hmmmm, do I want to look like big Fruit Chewy or a two-legged turd?”

  • M.Princip | September 19, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    Illustrated NFL Update:

    Added a few more illustrations over in the Artists Section. Most notably, a new entry for Lon Keller and his amazing true vintage football illustrations. I totally dig this one of Tom Fears (80) & Elroy (Crazylegs) Hirsch (40).

  • NYYFOREVER | September 19, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    Cool Expos logo story in today’s National Post

    I never knew this part at all :
    “…The trend can be traced back to filmmaker Spike Lee, who in 1996 approached New Era about making a red version of his beloved New York Yankees cap. Major League Baseball approved the idea, and before long baseball caps became fashion items…”

    http://www.nationalp...

    Here’s the scan that isn’t in the online edition that may answer some questions about the logo.

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”348944″]Cool Expos logo story in today’s National Post

    I never knew this part at all :
    “…The trend can be traced back to filmmaker Spike Lee, who in 1996 approached New Era about making a red version of his beloved New York Yankees cap. Major League Baseball approved the idea, and before long baseball caps became fashion items…”

    http://www.nationalp...

    Here’s the scan that isn’t in the online edition that may answer some questions about the logo.

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    Ah, yes, Spike Lee. Helluva filmmaker. Designer, not so much. He gave us this…
    http://www.eastbay.c...

    Brings to mind bumper stickers sorta, doesn’t it. Shows what happens when you pushpins to create your designs.

    —Ricko

  • =bg= | September 19, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    LOVE those NE AFL throwbacks. Absolutely I’d keep those. Same with the Raiders, who I could care less about otherwise.

  • NYYFOREVER | September 19, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    found the online version

    http://www.nationalp...

  • scott | September 19, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    A question about those ’93 Patriots uniforms, which had red numbers on the home blues: how often has one dark color been used for the numbers on a dark color jersey? I know teams like the Raiders, Cowboys and Saints have used silver and gold numbers on their dark uniforms, but it seems white is generally the standard color for numbers on the dark color uniform.

  • Oprah Hate Me | September 19, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    I think this was asked last week, so please forgive me if I am being repetitive. U of Mich question. Why does Tate Forcier get his first initial on his back, while his teammate Kelvin Grady just gets his last name?

  • mmwatkin | September 19, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”348950″]I think this was asked last week, so please forgive me if I am being repetitive. U of Mich question. Why does Tate Forcier get his first initial on his back, while his teammate Kelvin Grady just gets his last name?[/quote]

    A better question would be, “why do any players have their first initial on their jersey?”

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    A bit of AFL background.

    AFL’s first TV contract was with ABC, which was a far distant third nationally to CBS and NBC. Not too many years prior to that, many major markets still had only two TV stations and CBS and NBC had ’em locked up.

    So, not only was the AFL not taken too seriously, neither was its network. In most instances, ABC was affiliated with newer, weaker-signal stations in markets, which hadn’t made huge dents into local viewers’ viewing habits (think of the early days of FOX, before NFL). Actually, pro football itself wasn’t yet taken all that seriously; NBC didn’t exactly trip over itself rushing to counter-progam against the NFL on CBS.

    As the NFL became a huge ratings monster, NBC decided in ’63 to get into the act, bidding against CBS for the NFL package. CBS ponied up big dough and kept the older league. One persistent story is that NBC actually offered more, but the NFL chose CBS anyway.

    What happend next? Reportedly the first thing the NBC President said when informed of the NFL’s decision was, “Get me (AFL commissioner) Joe Foss.” Good bet he was pissed. At both the NFL and CBS.

    ABC’s contract with the new league was up, and NBC’s deep pockets left the newer ABC network behind in the erupting Pro Football Viewers War.

    I remember reading at the time that the AFL’s contract was so large that every AFL team would make money even if they never sold one game ticket during the run of the deal. Pretty big change for a league that had been struggling.

    Money talks, and after that the signing battles began (Namath and others). The move to NBC also served to validate the league in the eyes of viewers. And there were MORE of them, too, because NBC had more affiliates and more markets. Pro football changed forever.

    So, wanna point to an often overlooked quote at what was a seminal moment for the AFL in particular and pro football in general? Remember this…

    “Get me Joe Foss.”

    —Ricko

  • bartusball | September 19, 2009 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”348912″]Terrell Pryor warming up wearing a Pirates cap[/quote]

    Arggg Matey, that scabbie Pryor be from the Village of Jeanette outside o’Pittsburgh.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”348953″][quote comment=”348912″]Terrell Pryor warming up wearing a Pirates cap[/quote]

    Arggg Matey, that scabbie Pryor be from the Village of Jeanette outside o’Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    That’s right, it’s Talk Like a Pirate Day, too.
    Hadn’t thought of that.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | September 19, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    The Saints definately need to change the pants striping.
    I like the Titans uni, I wouldn’t change a thing. But I will agree that the blue pants can go.
    Underneath all the nonesense the Patriots have a sharp uni. Blue pants should go and add that silver stripe into the mix & we’re set!
    I will disagree with you Phil, Wide stripes are a must!

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:21 pm |

    For those who haven’t seen Minnesota’s Eric Decker, this kid is a horse.

    Great baseball player for Gophers, too.

    Kinda like seeing Joe Mauer all over again.

    —Ricko

  • bartusball | September 19, 2009 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”348954″][quote comment=”348953″][quote comment=”348912″]Terrell Pryor warming up wearing a Pirates cap[/quote]

    Arggg Matey, that scabbie Pryor be from the Village of Jeanette outside o’Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    That’s right, it’s Talk Like a Pirate Day, too.
    Hadn’t thought of that.[/quote]

    Well blow me down, ye must look at mine opening entry ye scallywag!

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”348949″]A question about those ’93 Patriots uniforms, which had red numbers on the home blues: how often has one dark color been used for the numbers on a dark color jersey? I know teams like the Raiders, Cowboys and Saints have used silver and gold numbers on their dark uniforms, but it seems white is generally the standard color for numbers on the dark color uniform.[/quote]

    Having a braindead moment.
    What color are the numbers on the Eagles’ black alts?

    —Ricko

  • Erik | September 19, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    Did I see this correctly– Alabama NOBs: QB Greg McELROY has a superscript “c” while LB Rolando McCLAIN has a subscript “c”.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”348957″][quote comment=”348954″][quote comment=”348953″][quote comment=”348912″]Terrell Pryor warming up wearing a Pirates cap[/quote]

    Arggg Matey, that scabbie Pryor be from the Village of Jeanette outside o’Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    That’s right, it’s Talk Like a Pirate Day, too.
    Hadn’t thought of that.[/quote]

    Well blow me down, ye must look at mine opening entry ye scallywag![/quote]

    Aye, I did, but ever since No Teeth Harvey dropped a cannon ball on me noggin’ I been fergettin’ a few things now’n again.

    (like the color of the numbers on the Eagle’s blacks)

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”348958″]
    What color are the numbers on the Eagles’ black alts?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    white with green dropshadow

    looks painful

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”348958″][quote comment=”348949″]A question about those ’93 Patriots uniforms, which had red numbers on the home blues: how often has one dark color been used for the numbers on a dark color jersey? I know teams like the Raiders, Cowboys and Saints have used silver and gold numbers on their dark uniforms, but it seems white is generally the standard color for numbers on the dark color uniform.[/quote]

    Having a braindead moment.
    What color are the numbers on the Eagles’ black alts?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Penn used to wear red numbers edged in white on navy jerseys. Do they still? Think Richmond did for a while, too.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:43 pm |

    Not color, but Penn, 1982…
    http://media.college...

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”348962″]A question about those ’93 Patriots uniforms, which had red numbers on the home blues[/quote]

    oh man…i totally forgot about that look

    which was admittedly, only slightly more palatable than this, which is quite deservedly reviled in most circles

    maybe the throwback isn’t the answer, but the pats really had a couple bad unis in their history

    /argh matey

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 2:46 pm |

    Nice KU-Duke photo gallery. That would be football, not basketball. ‘Cept for the Trajen numbers, you’d think it was Giants-Colts game.

  • mmwatkin | September 19, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”348956″]For those who haven’t seen Minnesota’s Eric Decker, this kid is a horse.

    Great baseball player for Gophers, too.

    Kinda like seeing Joe Mauer all over again.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I am most definitely not looking forward to my Spartans visiting TCF on Halloween night.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”348965″]Nice KU-Duke photo gallery. That would be football, not basketball. ‘Cept for the Trajen numbers, you’d think it was Giants-Colts game.[/quote]

    Yeah, like if the Colts played the Giants in an Archie Comic.

    Been surfing to it once in a while on Versus. And that’s what I meant earlier. Kansas is kinda like the Giants, but “bent” just enough so it’s a look they sorta own.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”348966″][quote comment=”348956″]For those who haven’t seen Minnesota’s Eric Decker, this kid is a horse.

    Great baseball player for Gophers, too.

    Kinda like seeing Joe Mauer all over again.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I am most definitely not looking forward to my Spartans visiting TCF on Halloween night.[/quote]

    Last football season the running comment around here was that the best home team quarterback playing in the Metrodome was Joe Mauer.

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”348967″][quote comment=”348965″]Nice KU-Duke photo gallery. That would be football, not basketball. ‘Cept for the Trajen numbers, you’d think it was Giants-Colts game.[/quote]

    Yeah, like if the Colts played the Giants in an Archie Comic.

    Been surfing to it once in a while on Versus. And that’s what I meant earlier. Kansas is kinda like the Giants, but “bent” just enough so it’s a look they sorta own.[/quote]

    Forgot the gallery linky: http://www.kansascit...

  • mmwatkin | September 19, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”348968″][quote comment=”348966″][quote comment=”348956″]For those who haven’t seen Minnesota’s Eric Decker, this kid is a horse.

    Great baseball player for Gophers, too.

    Kinda like seeing Joe Mauer all over again.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I am most definitely not looking forward to my Spartans visiting TCF on Halloween night.[/quote]

    Last football season the running comment around here was that the best home team quarterback playing in the Metrodome was Joe Mauer.[/quote]

    I am most definitely not looking forward to my Tigers playing the Twins tonight…

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 3:23 pm |

    so…is this guy the best RB in college football?

    /heisman watch?

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 3:43 pm |

    jeebus…anyone watching the ducks v. utes?

    oregon in white helmuts, green jerseys with graphite(?) numbers, and steel pants, white socks, green/white shoes

    so if you were playing with the dress-a-duck thingy… you’d have to dial in this

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”348972″]jeebus…anyone watching the ducks v. utes?

    oregon in white helmuts, green jerseys with graphite(?) numbers, and steel pants, white socks, green/white shoes

    so if you were playing with the dress-a-duck thingy… you’d have to dial in this[/quote]

    Still better than any of the sardonic outfits featured the last couple years. http://media.photobu...

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”348949″]A question about those ’93 Patriots uniforms, which had red numbers on the home blues: how often has one dark color been used for the numbers on a dark color jersey? I know teams like the Raiders, Cowboys and Saints have used silver and gold numbers on their dark uniforms, but it seems white is generally the standard color for numbers on the dark color uniform.[/quote]
    You mean, like, all-time? I’ve got to imagine it was fairly common back in the day. this comes to mind. And the previous incarnation was essentially the inverse: orange jersey with blue numbers and stripes recreated here.

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 3:52 pm |

    http://farm3.static.... White shoes? White socks? Where’d that come from? Hope that’s a look that catches on. Who’d a thought of that wild and crazy combo?

  • jesse | September 19, 2009 at 3:52 pm |

    Question, was 1993 the year the Pats intro’d Flying Elvis? The uni in the Bledsoe pic is nice, totally forgot about that. Thanks for that pic/post.

  • Skycat | September 19, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”348973″][quote comment=”348972″]jeebus…anyone watching the ducks v. utes?

    oregon in white helmuts, green jerseys with graphite(?) numbers, and steel pants, white socks, green/white shoes

    so if you were playing with the dress-a-duck thingy… you’d have to dial in this[/quote]

    Still better than any of the sardonic outfits featured the last couple years. http://media.photobu...
    Not a big fan of the feathered look, but this is a pretty good combination. I probably would go with the green helmet, though.

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 3:58 pm |

    Over a hundred comments already? It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday.

    Anyway, here’s a jersey that really needs to have the TV numbers moved to the sleeves. Or maybe put the classic logo on the sleeves.

  • =bg= | September 19, 2009 at 3:58 pm |

    Arrrrr, all I know is; HUGE sports weekend.
    In 10 minutes..game 2 of Giants @ Dodgers. Tomorrow, 1pm, Giants @ Dodgers AND Hawks @ Niners, FOLLOWED by Gians @ Cowboys, and this game I will NOT get screwed out of by the networks since it’s the national night game, and the opening of JerryWorld. Woo-hoo…how BOUT dem Cowboys.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”348978″]Over a hundred comments already? It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday.

    Anyway, here’s a jersey that really needs to have the TV numbers moved to the sleeves. Or maybe put the classic logo on the sleeves.[/quote]
    better look at that logo

  • Chris | September 19, 2009 at 4:06 pm |

    I think Oregon would look pretty good by their standards if they went with the green helmet or the new steel helmet. The white just doesn’t match up with green w/ steel #s and steel pants.

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote]It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday.[/quote]

    the manager gave me a smile

  • anotherguy | September 19, 2009 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”348924″]What are teams wearing? Hint: Kinda sorta a glimpse of what ’60 Broncos uni will look like.[/quote]
    Ricko, from the moment I saw those uni’s I was looking forward to your comment: I have to admit that I didn’t think you’d work in a “Ricko twofer” by referencing the Broncos. :-)

    BTW, don’t feel badly about “only having a B&W TV to work with in 1960”; something tells me you weren’t alone.

    “Will you marry me? Did he leave you any money? Answer the second question first.”

  • =bg= | September 19, 2009 at 4:10 pm |

    As someone commented on YouTube..
    You become cooler just by WATCHING this.
    Football on Monday Nights the WAY it was MEANT to be introed.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”348982″][quote]It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday.[/quote]

    the manager gave me a smile[/quote]
    If somethin’s plaaaaaaaaaain
    I wanna put a bit of stripin’ on it

    When somethin’s gooooone
    I wanna fight to get it back again.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah…

    Oh wait. Different song.

  • JimV19 | September 19, 2009 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”348980″][quote comment=”348978″]Over a hundred comments already? It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday.

    Anyway, here’s a jersey that really needs to have the TV numbers moved to the sleeves. Or maybe put the classic logo on the sleeves.[/quote]
    better look at that logo[/quote]

    I saw that logo today at the Football Hall of Fame gift shop. If the hat wasn’t so overpriced I woulda bought it. Yes definitely, the Giants’ TV numbers should be on the sleeves.

    Was hoping I’d see a lime green Seahawks jersey. Alas, it wasn’t to be.

    For anyone who happens to be in the area, you don’t have to pay to go in if you only go to the gift shop. Just tell them at the entrance that’s where you want to go and they’ll direct you right to it.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”348977″][quote comment=”348973″][quote comment=”348972″]jeebus…anyone watching the ducks v. utes?

    oregon in white helmuts, green jerseys with graphite(?) numbers, and steel pants, white socks, green/white shoes

    so if you were playing with the dress-a-duck thingy… you’d have to dial in this[/quote]

    Still better than any of the sardonic outfits featured the last couple years. http://media.photobu...
    Not a big fan of the feathered look, but this is a pretty good combination. I probably would go with the green helmet, though.[/quote]

    Kind of a “vintage” day. First Minnesota hints at the ’60 Broncos, and now Oregon looks like the 30’s-40’s or early 50s’…when just about everyone wore generic drab muslin/khaki pants and, if a team was a little flashy, they had white helmets and possibly some of those ritzy new two-color numbers. Even the white crew socks and black shoes contribute to the look.

    Two other thoughts:
    1) That “O” on the Duck QB’s back pad makes a nice bullseye, doesn’t it.
    2) Florida in all royal. Like the Gators’ unis, generally speaking, but that combo’s just never quite worked for me. Spent a few winters in Florida, and maybe it’s the notion of wearing all dark in that weather.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”348983″][quote comment=”348924″]What are teams wearing? Hint: Kinda sorta a glimpse of what ’60 Broncos uni will look like.[/quote]
    Ricko, from the moment I saw those uni’s I was looking forward to your comment: I have to admit that I didn’t think you’d work in a “Ricko twofer” by referencing the Broncos. :-)

    BTW, don’t feel badly about “only having a B&W TV to work with in 1960”; something tells me you weren’t alone.

    “Will you marry me? Did he leave you any money? Answer the second question first.”[/quote]

    At MY point in life, that last sentiment becomes, “I’ll date you if you’re poor, or if you’re old…but not both.”

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 4:59 pm |

    CATCHING UP ON A COUPLE THINGS…

    Notre Dame’s numbers, front and back, are the same size. Coupled with the empty nameplate area, that makes the back ones look smaller.

    Standard football numbers are 10″ front and 12″ back, especially in days before NOB. Some teams go with 10″ on back, but we don’t notice it so much when NOB is there.

    Also, Michigan’s Forcier has a first initial because his older brother played for Wolverines in years past. Broadcast crew talked about it last week during Notre Dame game.

    —Ricko

  • concealed78 | September 19, 2009 at 5:11 pm |

    Pretty much agree with all the NFL assessments. The simple solution is most of these teams just simply need to throwback. If there’s one thing I can’t stand about football pants, is them being dark, and/or stripeless. Secondly, pants stripes need to narrow up. Both the Eagles & Steelers have way too fat of pant stripes. The Saints look so crummy with that shade of gold (they should go back to copper, it’d look sharp), the unnecessary black outline around the white outline of the fleur de lis logo. The Ravens & Titans badly need to go to a simple, clean old school look, complete with normal block numbers and no panels.

    The Patriots are in dire need of an overhaul. I hate Flying Elvis, and that there’s so navy and grey it looks so dreary. Everybody in the AFC East should be wearing a white helmet. If you want to keep that son of a bitch Flying Elvis, at least put him on a white helmet.

  • M.Princip | September 19, 2009 at 5:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”348972″]jeebus…anyone watching the ducks v. utes?

    oregon in white helmuts, green jerseys with graphite(?) numbers, and steel pants, white socks, green/white shoes

    so if you were playing with the dress-a-duck thingy… you’d have to dial in this[/quote]

    I’m absolutely lovin’ Oregon’s uni set/ensemble today. Yes, what Phil dialed in.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”348991″][quote comment=”348972″]jeebus…anyone watching the ducks v. utes?

    oregon in white helmuts, green jerseys with graphite(?) numbers, and steel pants, white socks, green/white shoes

    so if you were playing with the dress-a-duck thingy… you’d have to dial in this[/quote]

    I’m absolutely lovin’ Oregon’s uni set/ensemble today. Yes, what Phil dialed in.[/quote]

    But ‘cept black shoes.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 5:22 pm |

    Colorado is wearing their mid-50’s silver buffalo horn helmets with the Vegas gold jerseys.

  • concealed78 | September 19, 2009 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”348989″]
    Notre Dame’s numbers, front and back, are the same size. Coupled with the empty nameplate area, that makes the back ones look smaller.

    Standard football numbers are 10″ front and 12″ back, especially in days before NOB. Some teams go with 10″ on back, but we don’t notice it so much when NOB is there.
    —Ricko[/quote]

    Good. Another reason to hate Notre Dame. Thanks, Ricko!

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”348994″][quote comment=”348989″]
    Notre Dame’s numbers, front and back, are the same size. Coupled with the empty nameplate area, that makes the back ones look smaller.

    Standard football numbers are 10″ front and 12″ back, especially in days before NOB. Some teams go with 10″ on back, but we don’t notice it so much when NOB is there.
    —Ricko[/quote]

    Good. Another reason to hate Notre Dame. Thanks, Ricko![/quote]

    Self-correcting. Should have said “MOST teams now go with 10″ on back…”

  • Mike Engle | September 19, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”348955″]The Saints definately need to change the pants striping.
    I like the Titans uni, I wouldn’t change a thing. But I will agree that the blue pants can go.
    Underneath all the nonesense the Patriots have a sharp uni. Blue pants should go and add that silver stripe into the mix & we’re set!
    I will disagree with you Phil, Wide stripes are a must![/quote]
    The one thing I don’t like about the Titans uniforms are: I think the pants look too old-school for everything else. Crazy computer-drawn helmet logo? Check. Something other than a central helmet stripe? Got it. Space-age number font? Yep. An almost superfluous “other” logo? Present. Good old “NFL striped” pants? Really? Kind of throws the whole look out of whack. I’d argue that the Titans should take the Steelers’ or Saints’ pants and recolor for their scheme. Then, the one block-y stripe would match their shoulders.
    (Can I get a mockup of that?)
    And by the way, Pretty Boy: by any chance, does your Cubs ONOB jersey have the #18 on it? If so, then lucky you. (Sure beats the #13 “ONOB” Phillies jersey a certain Carol Wagner of Haverford, PA owns. And don’t ask me why I remember that.)

  • M.Princip | September 19, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”348992″][quote comment=”348991″][quote comment=”348972″]jeebus…anyone watching the ducks v. utes?

    oregon in white helmuts, green jerseys with graphite(?) numbers, and steel pants, white socks, green/white shoes

    so if you were playing with the dress-a-duck thingy… you’d have to dial in this[/quote]

    I’m absolutely lovin’ Oregon’s uni set/ensemble today. Yes, what Phil dialed in.[/quote]

    But ‘cept black shoes.[/quote]

    Too much white in some of those Oregon player’s shoes, actually 50/50 split. Almost looks like those old school black and white Oxfords.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 6:04 pm |

    IMPORTANT UPDATE!!! ;)

    In all of our “tweakiness” you may have noticed neither Phil nor I mentioned the Houston Texans.

    We were remiss in that. And, so, we present our solution to the number one problem with the Texans: Post this photo, large and prominently in the team’s offices, locker rooms and equipment rooms.
    http://farm4.static....

    Picture, thousand words and all that.

    —Ricko

  • mtjaws | September 19, 2009 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”348987″]
    Florida in all royal. Like the Gators’ unis, generally speaking, but that combo’s just never quite worked for me. Spent a few winters in Florida, and maybe it’s the notion of wearing all dark in that weather.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I love the all-blue uniforms as a home alternative to the usual white pants. It is especially fitting today since the opponent wears orange, and the home crowd is in all blue. But the absolute worst combo is blue over orange, which is thankfully rarely worn.

    And we know they have those fancy fabrics to combat the heat. Yes, the same ones that don’t always match in color.

  • Traxel | September 19, 2009 at 6:25 pm |

    Fun schtuff.

    Saints: You got it. When the gold colors match, make them the darker color gold. Nice.

    Panthers: Agreed with others in keeping silver below the neck. I personally don’t like all whites. Silver pants add a lot. Other than that, you got it.

    Rams: You got it.

    Browns: Agreed with Ricko and the Brian Sipe years were the best.

    Patriots: Only way to fix them is to go back to the throw back. But absolutely no truncation.

    Ravens: You got it.

    Titans: I like the yoke. Other than that, you go it. Like the Penn State stripe.

    Overall, it’s amazing that they can’t seem to figure it out on the field when we all seem to agree (not everybody, but a large concensus) what the best moves are.

    BTW, I agree with sleeve TV numbers if they had sleeves. But as things are today….no sleeves….keep numbers on sholder tops.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 6:32 pm |

    RE: TEXANS

    Actually, other than losing the all-reds, the only through we had on the Texans was that the shoulder stripe is narrow it might as well not be there. Either lose it or make larger.

    Maybe go to school on USC’s unis?
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko
    (also on behalf of Phil)

  • =bg= | September 19, 2009 at 6:36 pm |

    http://msn.foxsports...

    USA Swimming bans hi-tech suits

  • Traxel | September 19, 2009 at 6:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”349001″]RE: TEXANS

    Actually, other than losing the all-reds, the only through we had on the Texans was that the shoulder stripe is narrow it might as well not be there. Either lose it or make larger.

    Maybe go to school on USC’s unis?
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko
    (also on behalf of Phil)[/quote]
    Make the sholder stripe an actual stripe or lose it altogether instead of what looks like a split seam or open wound. Don’t like it on USC or the Patriots either.

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote]I’d argue that the Titans should take the Steelers’ or Saints’ pants and recolor for their scheme. Then, the one block-y stripe would match their shoulders.
    (Can I get a mockup of that?)[/quote]

    quick & dirty:

    template

    graphic

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 6:41 pm |

    [quote]BTW, I agree with sleeve TV numbers if they had sleeves. But as things are today….no sleeves….keep numbers on sholder tops.[/quote]

    check back tomorrow…my man rick has the answer!

  • Mike Engle | September 19, 2009 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”349004″][quote]I’d argue that the Titans should take the Steelers’ or Saints’ pants and recolor for their scheme. Then, the one block-y stripe would match their shoulders.
    (Can I get a mockup of that?)[/quote]

    quick & dirty:

    template

    graphic[/quote]
    Hmmm…doesn’t quite work on the white top over powder pants, because the “block stripes” don’t match. I bet the concept would look good on the powder tops with white pants though.
    (No need to quick-and-dirty all nine combos, I think we get the idea. But if you can/must/want to do so, go right ahead.)

  • Traxel | September 19, 2009 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”349005″][quote]BTW, I agree with sleeve TV numbers if they had sleeves. But as things are today….no sleeves….keep numbers on sholder tops.[/quote]

    check back tomorrow…my man rick has the answer![/quote]
    Will do!

    It was Brendan Ryan day today. Homer and game winning hit for Cards 2-1 win on Cubs. Man, those stirrups look good!

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 6:50 pm |
  • Mike Engle | September 19, 2009 at 6:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”349006″][quote comment=”349004″][quote]I’d argue that the Titans should take the Steelers’ or Saints’ pants and recolor for their scheme. Then, the one block-y stripe would match their shoulders.
    (Can I get a mockup of that?)[/quote]

    quick & dirty:

    template

    graphic[/quote]
    Hmmm…doesn’t quite work on the white top over powder pants, because the “block stripes” don’t match. I bet the concept would look good on the powder tops with white pants though.
    (No need to quick-and-dirty all nine combos, I think we get the idea. But if you can/must/want to do so, go right ahead.)[/quote]
    Actually, in the case of the white tops and powder pants, what if the pants stripe were white, not navy in the mockup? Then, the pants would (a) be a reverse of the jerseys, and (b) allude to the Oilers’ helmets, as being worn occasionally this year. I think that would look awesome.

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 6:53 pm |

    [quote]I bet the concept would look good on the powder tops with white pants though[/quote]

    to my knowledge (and i think timmy b. confirmed), they never have worn powder over white

  • Mike Engle | September 19, 2009 at 6:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”349008″]one more look at titans w/fat one color stripes[/quote]
    And one more tweak, thanks to that picture. Lions throwbacks. Blue facemasks. Or silver. But not black. The Lions’ black looks bad and stinks of Millen, and it’s at its absolute worst on that “no black at all, just Honolulu blue and silver” set.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 6:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”349006″][quote comment=”349004″][quote]I’d argue that the Titans should take the Steelers’ or Saints’ pants and recolor for their scheme. Then, the one block-y stripe would match their shoulders.
    (Can I get a mockup of that?)[/quote]

    quick & dirty:

    template

    graphic[/quote]
    Hmmm…doesn’t quite work on the white top over powder pants, because the “block stripes” don’t match. I bet the concept would look good on the powder tops with white pants though.
    (No need to quick-and-dirty all nine combos, I think we get the idea. But if you can/must/want to do so, go right ahead.)[/quote]

    Maybe just lose the pants stripes.
    Confining. Slow ’em down.
    (Expect the Browns to reel off a string of road wins, btw, now that they’re no longer stripe-burdened).

    Mangenius strikes again. It wasn’t lack of talent, it was the PANTS.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 6:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”349002″]http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/10094448/USA-Swimming-votes-to-ban-high-tech-suits

    USA Swimming bans hi-tech suits[/quote]

    Yet the Browns are allowed to wear stripeless pants.

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 7:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”349009″]in the case of the white tops and powder pants, what if the pants stripe were white, not navy in the mockup? Then, the pants would (a) be a reverse of the jerseys, and (b) allude to the Oilers’ helmets, as being worn occasionally this year. I think that would look awesome.[/quote]

    like this?

    ugh

  • Skycat | September 19, 2009 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”349005″][quote]BTW, I agree with sleeve TV numbers if they had sleeves. But as things are today….no sleeves….keep numbers on sholder tops.[/quote]

    check back tomorrow…my man rick has the answer![/quote]
    As an illustration:

    http://www.nydailyne...

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 7:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”349003″][quote comment=”349001″]RE: TEXANS

    Actually, other than losing the all-reds, the only through we had on the Texans was that the shoulder stripe is narrow it might as well not be there. Either lose it or make larger.

    Maybe go to school on USC’s unis?
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko
    (also on behalf of Phil)[/quote]
    Make the sholder stripe an actual stripe or lose it altogether instead of what looks like a split seam or open wound. Don’t like it on USC or the Patriots either.[/quote]

    Kinda what we thought. Just tried USC’s version cuz no one in pro football uses it.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 7:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”349015″][quote comment=”349005″][quote]BTW, I agree with sleeve TV numbers if they had sleeves. But as things are today….no sleeves….keep numbers on sholder tops.[/quote]

    check back tomorrow…my man rick has the answer![/quote]
    As an illustration:

    http://www.nydailyne...

    Stop by tomorrow. Mockups addressing stripes, TVs, signature elements, merchandising…all kindsa stuff.

    —Ricko

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | September 19, 2009 at 7:31 pm |

    About those Ravens…

    Nice touch on the black pants. a simple, yet excellent tweak. The helmet – I would love to see the shield on the helmet and the bird (sans the “B”) on the sleeve. Put the “B” on the pants with the stripe on both the white and black pants, and change the number font (and on the white unis, have black numbers with purple trim)

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 7:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”348990″]Pretty much agree with all the NFL assessments. The simple solution is most of these teams just simply need to throwback. If there’s one thing I can’t stand about football pants, is them being dark, and/or stripeless. Secondly, pants stripes need to narrow up. Both the Eagles & Steelers have way too fat of pant stripes. The Saints look so crummy with that shade of gold (they should go back to copper, it’d look sharp), the unnecessary black outline around the white outline of the fleur de lis logo. The Ravens & Titans badly need to go to a simple, clean old school look, complete with normal block numbers and no panels.

    The Patriots are in dire need of an overhaul. I hate Flying Elvis, and that there’s so navy and grey it looks so dreary. Everybody in the AFC East should be wearing a white helmet. If you want to keep that son of a bitch Flying Elvis, at least put him on a white helmet.[/quote]

    Interesting how NFL pants’ stripes have gone wide over the years (extreme = 49ers) and thin (maybe the Seahawks led that trend) but the Chiefs have maintained their look and it’s always looked good and fresh. I seem to recall at the beginning of the wide-stripe look one of the Bears’ running backs was complaining that Papa Bear wouldn’t spring for hipper, wide-stripes. The thinner-stripe Bears back then did look too thin. But the Chiefs have always been OK.

    Agree with the Lions and black. They don’t work. Stick with Honolulu blue and silver.

    I like that wide stripe on the Titans. Kind of matches the shoulder yoke.

    And the Steelers never, ever should go with a thin stripe.

  • Craig | September 19, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    Roy Helu Jr. had some serious decal issues on the “N” on the right side of his helmet for most of the 1st half of the Hokies/Huskers game. It got fixed at halftime.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 7:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”349020″]Roy Helu Jr. had some serious decal issues on the “N” on the right side of his helmet for most of the 1st half of the Hokies/Huskers game. It got fixed at halftime.[/quote]

    Wow, they musta been really pissed at him. I mean, he didn’t deserve to be…

    oh, wait…

    you said IT got fixed at halftime.

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 8:14 pm |

    Anybody else think the Northwestern stripes on BYU’s pants looks a little clunky?

    It works on the sleeves, but I’d rather seem the Cougs return to two stripes on the pants to match the two on the helmet.

    LSU in purple at home?

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”349022″]Anybody else think the Northwestern stripes on BYU’s pants looks a little clunky?

    It works on the sleeves, but I’d rather seem the Cougs return to two stripes on the pants to match the two on the helmet.

    LSU in purple at home?[/quote]

    Yes on BYU.
    LSU does that once in a while. Best argument against Vikings ever wearing loops at home. Works great on white, not so good on purple.

    —Ricko

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 8:18 pm |

    Those gray Oregon trousers look mighty grungy.
    http://www.google.co...

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 8:21 pm |

    I hadn’t seen this Florida State look before.
    http://www.nflfootba...

  • M.Princip | September 19, 2009 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”349012″][quote comment=”349006″][quote comment=”349004″][quote]I’d argue that the Titans should take the Steelers’ or Saints’ pants and recolor for their scheme. Then, the one block-y stripe would match their shoulders.
    (Can I get a mockup of that?)[/quote]

    quick & dirty:

    template

    graphic[/quote]
    Hmmm…doesn’t quite work on the white top over powder pants, because the “block stripes” don’t match. I bet the concept would look good on the powder tops with white pants though.
    (No need to quick-and-dirty all nine combos, I think we get the idea. But if you can/must/want to do so, go right ahead.)[/quote]

    Maybe just lose the pants stripes.
    Confining. Slow ’em down.
    (Expect the Browns to reel off a string of road wins, btw, now that they’re no longer stripe-burdened).

    Mangenius strikes again. It wasn’t lack of talent, it was the PANTS.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You know, I’m quite a fan of the two tone use of colors. So, I like this big block stripe and I’m thinking the Browns could wear those brown pants with a second lighter tone of brown in the big block side stripe. That could look quite slick.

  • M.Princip | September 19, 2009 at 8:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”349024″]Those gray Oregon trousers look mighty grungy.
    http://www.google.co...

    I Love ’em!

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 8:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”349026″][quote comment=”349012″][quote comment=”349006″][quote comment=”349004″][quote]I’d argue that the Titans should take the Steelers’ or Saints’ pants and recolor for their scheme. Then, the one block-y stripe would match their shoulders.
    (Can I get a mockup of that?)[/quote]

    quick & dirty:

    template

    graphic[/quote]
    Hmmm…doesn’t quite work on the white top over powder pants, because the “block stripes” don’t match. I bet the concept would look good on the powder tops with white pants though.
    (No need to quick-and-dirty all nine combos, I think we get the idea. But if you can/must/want to do so, go right ahead.)[/quote]

    Maybe just lose the pants stripes.
    Confining. Slow ’em down.
    (Expect the Browns to reel off a string of road wins, btw, now that they’re no longer stripe-burdened).

    Mangenius strikes again. It wasn’t lack of talent, it was the PANTS.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You know, I’m quite a fan of the two tone use of colors. So, I like this big block stripe and I’m thinking the Browns could wear those brown pants with a second lighter tone of brown in the big block side stripe. That could look quite slick.[/quote]

    new costume for Dog Pound?
    http://worldofstuart...

  • M.Princip | September 19, 2009 at 8:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”349028″][quote comment=”349026″][quote comment=”349012″][quote comment=”349006″][quote comment=”349004″][quote]I’d argue that the Titans should take the Steelers’ or Saints’ pants and recolor for their scheme. Then, the one block-y stripe would match their shoulders.
    (Can I get a mockup of that?)[/quote]

    quick & dirty:

    template

    graphic[/quote]
    Hmmm…doesn’t quite work on the white top over powder pants, because the “block stripes” don’t match. I bet the concept would look good on the powder tops with white pants though.
    (No need to quick-and-dirty all nine combos, I think we get the idea. But if you can/must/want to do so, go right ahead.)[/quote]

    Maybe just lose the pants stripes.
    Confining. Slow ’em down.
    (Expect the Browns to reel off a string of road wins, btw, now that they’re no longer stripe-burdened).

    Mangenius strikes again. It wasn’t lack of talent, it was the PANTS.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You know, I’m quite a fan of the two tone use of colors. So, I like this big block stripe and I’m thinking the Browns could wear those brown pants with a second lighter tone of brown in the big block side stripe. That could look quite slick.[/quote]

    new costume for Dog Pound?
    http://worldofstuart...

    Too many tones of brown in that Ricko. Remember, less is more. ;0/

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 8:39 pm |
  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 8:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”349026″]You know, I’m quite a fan of the two tone use of colors. So, I like this big block stripe and I’m thinking the Browns could wear those brown pants with a second lighter tone of brown in the big block side stripe. That could look quite slick.[/quote]

    ok…really quick and dirty

    here’s a mock up of that look

  • concealed78 | September 19, 2009 at 9:09 pm |

    D.J. Carrasco pitching for the White Sox right now, wearing stirrups.

  • concealed78 | September 19, 2009 at 9:21 pm |

    Carrasco still pitching on WGN.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 9:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”349031″][quote comment=”349026″]You know, I’m quite a fan of the two tone use of colors. So, I like this big block stripe and I’m thinking the Browns could wear those brown pants with a second lighter tone of brown in the big block side stripe. That could look quite slick.[/quote]

    ok…really quick and dirty

    here’s a mock up of that look[/quote]

    And best of all, skid marks don’t show!!!
    http://farm4.static....

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 9:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”349025″]I hadn’t seen this Florida State look before.
    http://www.nflfootba...
    It’s rather Hovanesque.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 9:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”349035″][quote comment=”349025″]I hadn’t seen this Florida State look before.
    http://www.nflfootba...
    It’s rather Hovanesque.[/quote]

    “Get ‘er done.”

    (Chicks dig it)

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”349017″][quote comment=”349015″][quote comment=”349005″][quote]BTW, I agree with sleeve TV numbers if they had sleeves. But as things are today….no sleeves….keep numbers on sholder tops.[/quote]

    check back tomorrow…my man rick has the answer![/quote]
    As an illustration:

    http://www.nydailyne...

    Stop by tomorrow. Mockups addressing stripes, TVs, signature elements, merchandising…all kindsa stuff.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    That picture actually illustrates both sides of the TV number argument for me. The Redskins should move theirs up to the shoulders so that the stripes are visible, but the Giants should move theirs down to (the remnants of their) sleeves.

  • JTH | September 19, 2009 at 9:41 pm |

    …but keep them on the shoulders of the white jerseys.

  • LI Phil | September 19, 2009 at 9:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”349038″]…but keep them on the shoulders of the white jerseys.[/quote]

    you won’t feel that way after tomorrow

  • Mike Engle | September 19, 2009 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”349039″][quote comment=”349038″]…but keep them on the shoulders of the white jerseys.[/quote]

    you won’t feel that way after tomorrow[/quote]

    Introducing the new Ricko Compression Shirt!
    Put the shoulder stripes BACK on your jersey where they belong, WITHOUT giving more material to hold!
    OFFICIALLY licensed by the NFL!
    And only $69.99 on NFLShop.com! (That’s another jersey, because yours isn’t complete without it!)
    The Ricko shirt. OL-tested, Goodell-approved.

    /Hope I didn’t spoil anything. If I did, I’m a good guesser.

  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”349040″][quote comment=”349039″][quote comment=”349038″]…but keep them on the shoulders of the white jerseys.[/quote]

    you won’t feel that way after tomorrow[/quote]

    Introducing the new Ricko Compression Shirt!
    Put the shoulder stripes BACK on your jersey where they belong, WITHOUT giving more material to hold!
    OFFICIALLY licensed by the NFL!
    And only $69.99 on NFLShop.com! (That’s another jersey, because yours isn’t complete without it!)
    The Ricko shirt. OL-tested, Goodell-approved.

    /Hope I didn’t spoil anything. If I did, I’m a good guesser.[/quote]

    Nah, Henna Tatto of number on each bicep. In team colors. Gonna revolutionize the game.

    —Ricko

  • Mike Engle | September 19, 2009 at 10:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”349041″][quote comment=”349040″][quote comment=”349039″][quote comment=”349038″]…but keep them on the shoulders of the white jerseys.[/quote]

    you won’t feel that way after tomorrow[/quote]

    Introducing the new Ricko Compression Shirt!
    Put the shoulder stripes BACK on your jersey where they belong, WITHOUT giving more material to hold!
    OFFICIALLY licensed by the NFL!
    And only $69.99 on NFLShop.com! (That’s another jersey, because yours isn’t complete without it!)
    The Ricko shirt. OL-tested, Goodell-approved.

    /Hope I didn’t spoil anything. If I did, I’m a good guesser.[/quote]

    Nah, Henna Tatto of number on each bicep. In team colors. Gonna revolutionize the game.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Of course.
    Make that the Reebok by Ricko shirt.

  • PDX_CHeater | September 19, 2009 at 10:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”348981″]I think Oregon would look pretty good by their standards if they went with the green helmet or the new steel helmet. The white just doesn’t match up with green w/ steel #s and steel pants.[/quote]

    I agree with you. I like the new uni’s, but this combo was dreadful. I just got home from the game. When the guy sitting next to me saw the ducks run onto the field he actually said, “Are they wearing sweat pants? I hope the didn’t loose their football pants, that looks like shit!”

    I agree with him. They over thought this one.

    This would have been so much better if they had worn the white pants.

  • flip | September 19, 2009 at 11:29 pm |
  • Ricko | September 19, 2009 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”349044″]http://www.helmethut.com/College/KansasState/1966.jpg vs.
    http://image.cdnl3.x... ?[/quote]

    They wanted something without so much damn spelling involved?

  • Chris | September 20, 2009 at 12:04 am |

    [quote comment=”349043″][quote comment=”348981″]I think Oregon would look pretty good by their standards if they went with the green helmet or the new steel helmet. The white just doesn’t match up with green w/ steel #s and steel pants.[/quote]

    I agree with you. I like the new uni’s, but this combo was dreadful. I just got home from the game. When the guy sitting next to me saw the ducks run onto the field he actually said, “Are they wearing sweat pants? I hope the didn’t loose their football pants, that looks like shit!”

    I agree with him. They over thought this one.

    This would have been so much better if they had worn the white pants.[/quote]

    Well, they said during the tv broadcast of the game that the original plan was white pants, but the steel pants arrived from Nike this week. Guess they got too excited over them. Also, an interesting tidbit. Chip Kelly and the Oregon golf coach Casey Martin are good friends. Martin actually makes the decision on what unis they wear. I guess thats to eliminate locker room strife by certain players wanting certain combos for a given week???

  • M.Princip | September 20, 2009 at 12:24 am |

    [quote comment=”349031″][quote comment=”349026″]You know, I’m quite a fan of the two tone use of colors. So, I like this big block stripe and I’m thinking the Browns could wear those brown pants with a second lighter tone of brown in the big block side stripe. That could look quite slick.[/quote]

    ok…really quick and dirty

    here’s a mock up of that look[/quote]

    Confirmed, Ricko and Phil got this brown thing down pat.

  • Nick | September 20, 2009 at 1:17 am |

    [quote comment=”348874″]The Patriots could make a world of difference with what they have in stock now by simply wearing the silver pants with the white jersey. There are very few instances of any NFL uniform looking good with pants of any color than white, silver, or gold (or fake gold like the Steelers).

    The only exceptions are mainly historical (Chiefs red, Browns orange) and if you notice in all of these cases the helmets match the pants.

    In the Patriots case (I am a fan and hate the new uniforms, BTW), the stripes on the silver pants even work with the silly side panel on the white jersey, so just ditch the navy pants please![/quote]

    So very true. This above comment ranks with the VERY BEST comments to ever be posted on Uniwatch.

  • Nick | September 20, 2009 at 1:36 am |

    [quote comment=”349023″][quote comment=”349022″]Anybody else think the Northwestern stripes on BYU’s pants looks a little clunky?

    It works on the sleeves, but I’d rather seem the Cougs return to two stripes on the pants to match the two on the helmet.

    LSU in purple at home?[/quote]

    Yes on BYU.
    LSU does that once in a while. Best argument against Vikings ever wearing loops at home. Works great on white, not so good on purple.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    For the last 6-7 years LSU seems to a wear Purple jerseys for their non-conference home games, and certainly for all of their home games against in-state schools (Tulane, ULL, ULM, etc.)

  • Mike Miller | September 20, 2009 at 1:43 am |

    [quote comment=”349046″][quote comment=”349043″][quote comment=”348981″]I think Oregon would look pretty good by their standards if they went with the green helmet or the new steel helmet. The white just doesn’t match up with green w/ steel #s and steel pants.[/quote]

    I agree with you. I like the new uni’s, but this combo was dreadful. I just got home from the game. When the guy sitting next to me saw the ducks run onto the field he actually said, “Are they wearing sweat pants? I hope the didn’t loose their football pants, that looks like shit!”

    I agree with him. They over thought this one.

    This would have been so much better if they had worn the white pants.[/quote]

    Well, they said during the tv broadcast of the game that the original plan was white pants, but the steel pants arrived from Nike this week. Guess they got too excited over them. Also, an interesting tidbit. Chip Kelly and the Oregon golf coach Casey Martin are good friends. Martin actually makes the decision on what unis they wear. I guess thats to eliminate locker room strife by certain players wanting certain combos for a given week???[/quote]

    John Anderson on SportsCenter doing the highlights of this game, as a Utah player is returning an INT…

    “He’s running away from those hideous uniforms…Who dresses these clowns? White helmets with green jerseys and gray britches?”

  • Nick | September 20, 2009 at 1:44 am |

    [quote comment=”349046″][quote comment=”349043″][quote comment=”348981″]I think Oregon would look pretty good by their standards if they went with the green helmet or the new steel helmet. The white just doesn’t match up with green w/ steel #s and steel pants.[/quote]

    I agree with you. I like the new uni’s, but this combo was dreadful. I just got home from the game. When the guy sitting next to me saw the ducks run onto the field he actually said, “Are they wearing sweat pants? I hope the didn’t loose their football pants, that looks like shit!”

    I agree with him. They over thought this one.

    This would have been so much better if they had worn the white pants.[/quote]

    Well, they said during the tv broadcast of the game that the original plan was white pants, but the steel pants arrived from Nike this week. Guess they got too excited over them. Also, an interesting tidbit. Chip Kelly and the Oregon golf coach Casey Martin are good friends. Martin actually makes the decision on what unis they wear. I guess thats to eliminate locker room strife by certain players wanting certain combos for a given week???[/quote]

    I actually dig this combo. The white helmet with dark jersey and medium color pants reminds me of early 1970s San Diego Chargers, or last year’s Air Force uni.

    Had a really old school feel to it.

  • Nick | September 20, 2009 at 1:52 am |

    [quote comment=”348900″][quote comment=”348886″]One more comment….

    for the Saints, why didn’t you just say you wanted this:
    http://www.geocities...

    with a single matching shade of gold. Much quicker…[/quote]

    Cuz Saints no longer have sleeve stripes, maybe?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The final, once and for all solution to the Saints uni issues.

    a.) Use this uni, WITHOUT any sleeve stripes (to make accomodations for the modern sleeveless jersey and the regrettable elimination of sleeve stripes) and put the current fleur de lis in its place.

    b.) Use this darker “Copper” shade of Old Gold instead of current five versions of Vegas gold that array various parts of the current Saints uni.

    c.) Use the striping on the pants as used here.

    d.) NO CONTRASTING COLLAR COLOR. Leave the color off, let the collar match the jersey.

    There, that’s it, that’s the List !!!

  • Terelle Jackson (W) | September 20, 2009 at 4:43 am |

    FSU-54
    BYU-28

    Pretty good looking unigame, but…

    Let’s just hope we don’t hear from from the Stormin’ Morons, Uh… I mean Mormons, for the rest of the year.

    BCS?
    N.C.?

    Please get a life.

    Just a bad week for the MWC

  • Chris F (Tubby) | September 20, 2009 at 11:04 pm |

    So, was I right?

    Is it Apex in the Benchies?