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Auction Action

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Bruce Menard recently informed me that the folks at Heritage Auction Galleries have a ton of good stuff in their current auction catalog. Here’s a sampling:

• According to the auction listing, Robin Roberts wore this throwback replica while throwing out the first pitch at the 1976 All-Star Game. I’ve never heard about this before. Anyone know more?

• Totally digging the typography on this 1929 World Series program cover. And dig that little bear!

• And speaking of World Series programs, here’s a doozy.

• Here’s a rarity: A Pro Bowl helmet from the days when the players wore conference-specific headgear.

• Love all the quote-marked nicknames in this poster.

• I’m always a sucker for these college all-star uniforms. Rare to see one that includes the pants and the helmet. And man, those “4”s!

• Oh man, check out these killer Giants programs. Interesting uni note: Check out the shin of the Jints player in the lower-right illo — looks like he has a pad under his sock.

• Oh, for the days when the Bears played a beer-sponsored team.

• When I was at the National in Cleveland a few months ago, one of the most drool-inducing items I saw was this Tulsa Oilers hockey jersey. Here it is, up for auction.

• Never seen anything like this Ottawa Senators jacket or this Blackhawks jacket.

• Also new to me: This amazing Red Wings cardigan, with a white version to boot. Looks like they have the American flag facing the wrong way on the left sleeve, though.

• Remember the barber pole design that the Blackhawks wore in the Winter Classic? Here’s the original. But I think I like this design even better.

• If you’ve been wondering what to get me for my half-birthday (coming up next Monday, don’tcha know), this jacket wouldn’t be a bad place to start.

Worst hockey jersey ever? Eh, close enough.

Best hockey program cover ever? Eh, close enough.

• Lots of great ticket stubs on offer, including tix from the 1971 World Series, the ’51 Series, the ’57 Series, the 1962 Mets home opener, and more.

• Gorgeous hockey officiating sweaters here and here

• Not sure what this has to do with sports, but it sure is purty.

Want to see more? You can download the auction catalog as a PDF here.

And look, there are still a few hairs I haven’t pulled out: My Earthlink e-mail finally appears to be behaving, so forget about the alternate address I’ve been using for the past few days and go back to my usual addresses. And please keep your fingers crossed.

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About Time: Big congrats to Jerry Dior, who’s finally been recognized as the designer of the MLB logo. He’ll be honored on the field at Yankee Stadium today and at Shea on Friday. I’ve written about Jerry several times (to see those columns, look here and here) and have always been impressed by what a gentleman he is — a class act all the way. I’m glad he’s finally gotten the recognition he deserves.

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Research Reminder: My thanks to everyone who contributed thoughts, anecdotes, and historical notes regarding football gloves yesterday. If you have anything to contribute that would help document the history and culture of this largely overlooked uni element, don’t be shy.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Hadn’t noticed until now that Wisconsin is using those rounded-corner nameplates. Good view of them in the next-to-last photo in this gallery (as spotted by Ben Simon). … According to the fourth graf of this story, the Predators’ new alt jersey includes “a dark checkerboard pattern that can only be seen at close range” (with thanks to Nick Church). … You may know that Chad Ochocinco wore gold shoes and gold gloves on Sunday, but did you know he also had two fingers taped together? Never seen a receiver do that before. Anyone have any insights? (As spotted by Bob Wilzbach.) … Lenny Dykstra, financial genius. … A freelance designer is suing NYU for allegedly stealing her logo design. … Now that’s a helmet (with thanks to David Cline). … New Irish national rugby kit (with thanks to Joe Alvernaz). … Colorado will be wearing 1937 throwbacks this weekend. Additional info here, and there’s a photo gallery here. … Dave Forbes notes that Jeff Garcia previously wore No. 7 with the Eagles but will have to take a different number in Philly this time around because Michael Vick is now wearing No. 7. … Corey Zoldan reports that the following note appeared in the U. of Maryland school paper: “The [baseball] team will be ditching its red and yellow jerseys in favor of pinstripes, because [coach] Bakich wants to be able to sell future recruits on the opportunity to ‘play in the Terrapin pinstripes.'” Uh, right. … What’s worse than an Argentine soccer team with Walmart-sponsored jerseys? An Argentine soccer team with Walmart-sponsored socks, which must surely qualify as a new low for civilization (with thanks to Dario Moretti, writing all the way from South America). … We’ve talked several times over the years about the ribbed seams found on some Bears’ linemen’s shoulder areas. Now Aaron Schlesinger notes that the Eagles appear to be doing something similar. … Hey look, it’s minor league hockey. And the refs are wearing those stupid orange sleeve stripes that debuted during last season’s all-star game. … Good article about Vanderbilt’s merit decals here (with thanks to Lee Wilds). … Last week’s New Yorker featured two cartoons — appearing on facing pages! — that were very Ticker-worthy.

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Highest Recommendation: I have a good friend — let’s call him Jim — who I’ve known for over a decade. Jim is a trained engineer and an experienced manager who’s particularly strong on strategy, marketing, product development, and finance. I’ve never met Jim’s parents, but they sure must have raised him right, because Jim is — and I’m not exaggerating here — the nicest, most congenial, most stand-up guy I’ve ever known. Really. In other words, he’s as much of an asset in the clubhouse as his is on the field.

Jim is currently between jobs. I can say with absolute certainty that he’d be a major plus for any company. If you’d like to see his résumé and some position papers he’s written, please get in touch and I’ll send them to you. Thanks.

 

243 comments to Auction Action

  • Chris | September 16, 2009 at 8:04 am |

    There’s no link for the very first item.

  • Paul Lukas | September 16, 2009 at 8:18 am |

    [quote comment=”348216″]There’s no link for the very first item.[/quote]

    Sorry — I left out a quote mark in the photo coding and it fucked up the first graf of text. Now fixed.

  • qwerty | September 16, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    “Check out the shin of the Jints player in the lower-right illo — looks like he has a pad under his sock.”

    Artie Donovan has said that players used to tape phone books or magazines to their shins for protection. That would be a great pic.

  • Mike Hersh | September 16, 2009 at 8:39 am |

    The last item mentioned in the Heritage Auction post is a sign from the Goudey Gum Co. They had a long history of producing trading cards for sports and non-sports, Here’s a link to a site about the company

    http://www.goudey.or...

  • Tom V | September 16, 2009 at 8:42 am |

    The ugliest hockey jersey ever is also known as the burger king alternate.

  • mmwatkin | September 16, 2009 at 8:45 am |

    I think the U.S. flag appears to be backwards on the Red Wings sweater because it is crossed flags, like this:

    http://goldengatewin...

    Would that still make it backwards?

  • Chris LaHaye | September 16, 2009 at 8:45 am |

    Chad 85 probably has a jammed finger, athletic trainers (which I am) call this tape job “buddy taping.” We tape the injured finger to the unaffected next digit to give it support. A common thing in football.

  • DenverGregg | September 16, 2009 at 8:49 am |

    I like the Colorado Buffs alt uni. Ironic that both Boulder and Denver will wear yellow/gold jerseys this fall after a long absence. The Buffs would probably fare as well with the 1937 players as they are with the kids out there this year.

  • DJ | September 16, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    Remember the barber pole design that the Blackhawks wore in the Winter Classic? Here’s the original. But I think I like this design even better.

    Unless your links are inverted, the one you like better is the basic design used in the Winter Classic. It also was used before the one you style as “the original” (The black, red, and beige was used from 1935-1937; the first red, white, and black barberpole design was used in the 1937-38 season)

  • Kyle Schroeck | September 16, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    http://www.prohockey...

    1994 Mighty Ducks of Anaheim alternate (aka cartoon duck bursting through the ice) is the worst ever. Sorry boys, close enough doesn’t describe the Burger King Alt.

  • Kyle Schroeck | September 16, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 9:12 am |

    Those Blackhawk jerseys are stunning. Interesting to see how far off the mark they were in this 1936 throwback reproduction. That logo patch is not even close.

  • bill | September 16, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    That may well be the worst hockey jersey ever. I never thought anything could top the sweaters worn by the Vancouver Canucks in the early 1980’s.

    Best of luck to Jim regarding his job search.

  • LennyT | September 16, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    I don’t know if any body has posted this but Brian Tallet for the Jays has been killing it with the stirrups recently.

    http://bjays.files.w...

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    congrats to jerry dior…a gentleman and a scholar (paul arranged for mr. dior to be at the sheep station gathering back in january)…well deserved (and about time)!

    and good luck to “jim” too…sure he’ll land on his feet (fingers and toes crossed)

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    Love all the quote-marked nicknames in this poster

    This brought to mind my first baseball glove, “autographed” by Roberto, “Bob”, Clemente. Even at that age I found this weird, because I never heard him referred to as Bob. Is this just an attempt to gringo-ize him or did he really go by that name? I know some of you burghers out there can educate me on this.
    BTW, I believe the glove was manufactured by Franklin and was purchased circa 1960. Think it might have had a “deep-well” pocket, “ed-u-cated” heel or “advanced” web. Now if you’ll excuse me, I gotta go bounce a ball off the wall and practice on my grounders.

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 9:32 am |

    I’m just gonna say this.

    DAMMIT PHIL!

    I was at Home Depot last night and all I could think was Fern Green.
    Didn’t help when the wife said she wanted to paint the bedroom and light green so it will be calming…

    (and just to head it off, I know blue is calming but we will already have the den and probably the nursery in blue)

  • Stuby | September 16, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    According to the Eagles website, Jeff Garcia will wear #9.

    http://www.philadelp...

  • Eriq Jaffe | September 16, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    I’m not convinced that the Kings’ BK alternate is worse than, say, Wild Wing. Heck, they should’ve gone all the way with it and have Wild Wing actually wearing the Wild Wing jersey – they could’ve had infinite recursion, but they wimped out.

  • LarryB | September 16, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    Nice to see Colorado going to wear throwbacks. But why the boring one?

    Why not this Colorado throwback Whizzer White is wearing here.

    http://i.cdn.turner....

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”348227″]Those Blackhawk jerseys are stunning. Interesting to see how far off the mark they were in this 1936 throwback reproduction. That logo patch is not even close.[/quote]
    They did that deliberately. They used the 1930s sweater design with the 1940s crest. The Bruins appear to be taking a similar approach for their Winter Classic jerseys.

  • LarryB | September 16, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    That college all star uniform is sweet.

    http://sports.ha.com...

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”348237″]That college all star uniform is sweet.

    http://sports.ha.com...
    Is anyone wearing pants stripes like that nowadays? That’s a look that needs to resurface somewhere.

    Also, I like how Halas stuck with the same number font for those jerseys that the Bears were using at the time.

  • Hank | September 16, 2009 at 9:51 am |

    Jeff Garcia gave an interview on 950ESPN radio in Philly and said he is going with #9. (Insert Beatles references here ____ )

  • Joe Hilseberg | September 16, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    Corey Zoldan reports that the following note appeared in the U. of Maryland school paper: “The [baseball] team will be ditching its red and yellow jerseys in favor of pinstripes, because [coach] Bakich wants to be able to sell future recruits on the opportunity to ‘play in the Terrapin pinstripes.’”

    Pinstripes aren’t anything new at MD…that’s what they wore when I went there

    http://www.lib.umd.e...

    http://www.lib.umd.e...

  • Jim | September 16, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    Leather hockey jackets, like the Senators & Blackhawks above, were fairly common. For example, here is Leaf’s great Charlie Conacher & three teammates in their leather jackets: http://www.framewort...
    Or this beautiful Darryl Sittler London Knights jacket: http://pics.classica...
    They aren’t as common now, due to the popularity of “track” style jackets.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”348236″][quote comment=”348227″]Those Blackhawk jerseys are stunning. Interesting to see how far off the mark they were in this 1936 throwback reproduction. That logo patch is not even close.[/quote]
    They did that deliberately. They used the 1930s sweater design with the 1940s crest. The Bruins appear to be taking a similar approach for their Winter Classic jerseys.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Thanks for the follow up.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”348237″]That college all star uniform is sweet.

    http://sports.ha.com...

    Totally agree with you Larry. Great pics!

  • glen | September 16, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”348238″][quote comment=”348237″]That college all star uniform is sweet.

    http://sports.ha.com...
    Is anyone wearing pants stripes like that nowadays? That’s a look that needs to resurface somewhere.

    Also, I like how Halas stuck with the same number font for those jerseys that the Bears were using at the time.[/quote]

    I’m sure if Marquette still had a football team they would try to sport those stripes but I don’t know of any football team that do the horizontal pant stripes only basketball teams.

  • Steve Naismith | September 16, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    The NYU case sounds interesting – most of the other logo-theft cases I’ve heard of involve unsolicited creations – some fan voluntarily submitting a logo. This is the first I’ve heard of someone being ASKED to create a logo, doing so, and then complaining afterward. If she was a paid employee and didn’t have the foresight to ask for more money, royalties, etc BEFORE submitting the logo, I can’t imagine how she has a case.

    Furthermore, that bobcat logo is hideous. It looks more like an alien-elf hybrid.

  • LarryB | September 16, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    DenverGregg, Would you or any other Buffalo fan know if the colors are correct in this football figure? I saved as many pictures as I could of this guys figures before he quit selling them.

    He has this guy as 1941 Colorado. I was thinking of trying to colorize the Byron Whizzer White Colorado picture I posted in #19

    Here is the figure. Is it accurate?

    http://img.photobuck...

  • LarryB | September 16, 2009 at 10:07 am |

    I note the helmet is silver. Sometimes it s hard to tell in b&w. But silver and gold seem to look different in b&w pictures.

    http://img.photobuck...

  • GoTerriers | September 16, 2009 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”348231″]Love all the quote-marked nicknames in this poster

    This brought to mind my first baseball glove, “autographed” by Roberto, “Bob”, Clemente. Even at that age I found this weird, because I never heard him referred to as Bob. Is this just an attempt to gringo-ize him or did he really go by that name? I know some of you burghers out there can educate me on this.
    BTW, I believe the glove was manufactured by Franklin and was purchased circa 1960. Think it might have had a “deep-well” pocket, “ed-u-cated” heel or “advanced” web. Now if you’ll excuse me, I gotta go bounce a ball off the wall and practice on my grounders.[/quote]
    Not to be picky, but after all, that’s what we do here . . .the “Deep Well” pocket and “ed-U-cated heel” are trademarks of the Rawlings company (which I supposed could’ve been part of Franklin for a time)

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”348233″]According to the Eagles website, Jeff Garcia will wear #9.

    http://www.philadelp...

    Too bad the NFL isn’t like the NHL, where he could just take #77 then. Oops, that one’s taken too.

    Speaking of numbers, yesterday’s ticker column about hockey numbers made we wonder: why do the NHL and NFL no longer allow #00? I used to love seeing Ken Burrough of the Oilers, and even Jim Otto of the Raiders, wearing that number. What’s wrong with it – do the leagues think it’s bad for the players’ self esteem or something?

    I believe the CFL and NBA allow 00, right?

  • mike 2 | September 16, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    Never seen anything like this Ottawa Senators jacket or this Blackhawks jacket.

    http://sports.ha.com...

    Interesting – that’s the wrong flag beside the US Flag. I don’t believe Canada ever used that flag.

    There were a variety of flags used between 1867 and 1965 that looked similar but all of them had a coat of arms on the field of the flag.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    That looks like a British red ensign to me.

  • mike 2 | September 16, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    And yes I know the US never had a nine star flag either, but the Canadian flag looks like an actual error rather than an embroidery choice.

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”348242″][quote comment=”348236″][quote comment=”348227″]Those Blackhawk jerseys are stunning. Interesting to see how far off the mark they were in this 1936 throwback reproduction. That logo patch is not even close.[/quote]
    They did that deliberately. They used the 1930s sweater design with the 1940s crest. The Bruins appear to be taking a similar approach for their Winter Classic jerseys.[/quote]

    Ah, I see. Thanks for the follow up.[/quote]
    Of course, that being said, they took some liberties with the design when compared to the source material

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    http://sports.ha.com...

    One more bumpersticker?

    Don’t like the 4s, not sure about the stars, but I seriously LOVE those stripes. I’d wear that uni.

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”348244″][quote comment=”348238″][quote comment=”348237″]That college all star uniform is sweet.

    http://sports.ha.com...
    Is anyone wearing pants stripes like that nowadays? That’s a look that needs to resurface somewhere.

    Also, I like how Halas stuck with the same number font for those jerseys that the Bears were using at the time.[/quote]

    I’m sure if Marquette still had a football team they would try to sport those stripes but I don’t know of any football team that do the horizontal pant stripes only basketball teams.[/quote]
    Same for DePaul. If they still had a football program, they could practically use that exact uniform. Maybe not the stars on the shoulder, though.

  • bourbon soaked idiot | September 16, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”348233″]According to the Eagles website, Jeff Garcia will wear #9.

    http://www.philadelp...

    #5 will available for him next season if he wants.

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    [quote]I’d wear that uni.[/quote]

    is there any uni you wouldn’t wear?

  • ATLShaun | September 16, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    i absolutely LOVE that blackhawks jacket…

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”348256″][quote]I’d wear that uni.[/quote]

    is there any uni you wouldn’t wear?[/quote]
    For our sakes, I hope these are on that list.

  • Mickel Yantz | September 16, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    “@MatthewHass008 http://twitpic.com/h... – NFL practice jersey about to look like Nascar? Bing is one of our new sponsors. #bing #nfl #microsoft For the record— big fan of Bing.com …. And I like Nascar—- and Ricky Bobby.”

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…

  • Mark K | September 16, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    Temple has stripes like that…

    http://www.themacdai...

  • The Jeff | September 16, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”348259″]”@MatthewHass008 http://twitpic.com/h... – NFL practice jersey about to look like Nascar? Bing is one of our new sponsors. #bing #nfl #microsoft For the record— big fan of Bing.com …. And I like Nascar—- and Ricky Bobby.”[/quote]

    I really really really really really really really hope this trend stays practice only. I do not want to see ads on the uniforms in NFL games. Ever.

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”348256″][quote]I’d wear that uni.[/quote]

    is there any uni you wouldn’t wear?[/quote]

    Actually, the unis I wouldn’t wear could fill two weekend posts. You just never know which ones they are…

  • Dave | September 16, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    deadspin has an entry about the green Nationals hat as well…

    http://deadspin.com/...

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”348258″][quote comment=”348256″][quote]I’d wear that uni.[/quote]

    is there any uni you wouldn’t wear?[/quote]
    For our sakes, I hope these are on that list.[/quote]

    I don’t know, that referee uni looks okay…

  • Paul Lukas | September 16, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    About those ribbed thingies on the Bears and Eagles’ shoulders – The Buccaneers used to have those back when the creamsicle unis (which, yes, I would definitely wear) were their regular uniforms. Eventually I’ll find a picture.

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    Not much mention of Lew Alcindor these days, either.
    Or Bobby Moore.
    (just to add to your point)

    —Ricko

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”348265″][quote comment=”348258″][quote comment=”348256″][quote]I’d wear that uni.[/quote]

    is there any uni you wouldn’t wear?[/quote]
    For our sakes, I hope these are on that list.[/quote]

    I don’t know, that referee uni looks okay…[/quote]
    I believe the reverse angle on that uni looks something like this (somewhat NSFW).

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    [quote]Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.”[/quote]

    i wonder if chad johnson has ever heard of ernie terrel

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”348269″][quote comment=”348265″][quote comment=”348258″][quote comment=”348256″][quote]I’d wear that uni.[/quote]

    is there any uni you wouldn’t wear?[/quote]
    For our sakes, I hope these are on that list.[/quote]

    I don’t know, that referee uni looks okay…[/quote]
    I believe the reverse angle on that uni looks something like this (somewhat NSFW).[/quote]

    I believe that’s what Tom Arnold wore during his days as a door-to-door Chippendale Dancer in southern Iowa.

    —Ricko

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    I have no problem with calling Chad Ochocinco as opposed to Johnson. You see, in my opinion it’s on the same level as when Cassius Clay changed his name to Muhammed Ali, however, in a more secular fashion. Why, what’s the derivation of Clay and Johnson to an African American…hmmmmm? Shed that crap and invent yourself a new surname. Yes, it’s sort of the marketing of Chad Ochocinco, but so what. If the Bengals felt it was a distraction, they should have got rid of him when he wanted to leave.

  • Daniel | September 16, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    Hey Paul, with the NHL preseason getting going, when can we expect an NHL preview? Curious to see what new thirds are coming, and the NHL is a lot better at keeping uni-related things hush hush.

  • DenverGregg | September 16, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”348246″]DenverGregg, Would you or any other Buffalo fan know if the colors are correct in this football figure? I saved as many pictures as I could of this guys figures before he quit selling them.

    He has this guy as 1941 Colorado. I was thinking of trying to colorize the Byron Whizzer White Colorado picture I posted in #19

    Here is the figure. Is it accurate?

    http://img.photobuck...
    Sorry to say I don’t know. That’s a little before my time.

  • Paul Lukas | September 16, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”348273″]Hey Paul, with the NHL preseason getting going, when can we expect an NHL preview? Curious to see what new thirds are coming, and the NHL is a lot better at keeping uni-related things hush hush.[/quote]

    On or about Sept. 30th.

  • lose remerswaal | September 16, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    Dislocated finger for Chad

    http://ballhype.com/...

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”348274″][quote comment=”348246″]DenverGregg, Would you or any other Buffalo fan know if the colors are correct in this football figure? I saved as many pictures as I could of this guys figures before he quit selling them.

    He has this guy as 1941 Colorado. I was thinking of trying to colorize the Byron Whizzer White Colorado picture I posted in #19

    Here is the figure. Is it accurate?

    http://img.photobuck...
    Sorry to say I don’t know. That’s a little before my time.[/quote]

    I spent a lot of years trying to determine uni colors from only b&w sources. And, yes, metallic gold almost always photographs darker than silver. That said, that Whizzer White photo is a certified bitch…because not only are we trying to determine what’s silver or gold, we also have deal with satin and matte finish fabrics, which can lead us WAY off in wrong directions.

    Odds are, it’s pretty basic. But the “hodgepodge” possibilities are numerous, with some of them quite ghastly. LOL

    —Ricko

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”348270″][quote]Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.”[/quote]

    i wonder if chad johnson has ever heard of ernie terrel[/quote]

    Hey, we live in a Free World (b.)!

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with Chad or his name either – he’s kinda harmless, compared to some other diva receivers. But, Citi Field is New Shea’s legal name as well. We give people and buildings nicknames all the time, so while I respect and acknowledge his choice of name, he also has to realize some people will still call him by his old one and he should have a sense of humor about it. That doesn’t mean you SHOULD make a shirt, just having some fun.

    I’ve been called all sorts of things. The ones that aren’t derogatory, even if they’re not my first choice of names, are fine with me. As long as people acknowledge my original name as well.

    And to answer a question posed about a different name, I’m pretty sure Roberto Clemente never went by “Bob” or “Bobby.” The baseball cards and radio announcers used those names, but I don’t know what his reaction to them were – I loaned my Clemente biography to a friend before I got to read it.

  • Robin | September 16, 2009 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”348255″][quote comment=”348233″]According to the Eagles website, Jeff Garcia will wear #9.

    http://www.philadelp...

    #5 will available for him next season if he wants.[/quote]

    Ouch. That’s cold Haha

  • glen | September 16, 2009 at 11:07 am |
  • Giancarlo | September 16, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    Didn’t see this mentioned here, but tonight at 8pm Showtime is showing a documentary on the AFL called Full Color Football. Oddly, the promo ad shows a picture of the early 1980s Miami Dolphins.

  • don d. | September 16, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    That’s not a pad on the Giants player, it’s an ugly knee brace ;)

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”348271″][quote comment=”348269″][quote comment=”348265″][quote comment=”348258″][quote comment=”348256″][quote]I’d wear that uni.[/quote]

    is there any uni you wouldn’t wear?[/quote]
    For our sakes, I hope these are on that list.[/quote]

    I don’t know, that referee uni looks okay…[/quote]
    I believe the reverse angle on that uni looks something like this (somewhat NSFW).[/quote]

    I believe that’s what Tom Arnold wore during his days as a door-to-door Chippendale Dancer in southern Iowa.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Naw, that there’s Troy Aikman.

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”348282″]Didn’t see this mentioned here, but tonight at 8pm Showtime is showing a documentary on the AFL called Full Color Football. Oddly, the promo ad shows a picture of the early 1980s Miami Dolphins.[/quote]

    I believe it’s actually a 5-part series.

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”348278″][quote comment=”348270″][quote]Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.”[/quote]

    i wonder if chad johnson has ever heard of ernie terrel[/quote]

    Hey, we live in a Free World (b.)![/quote]

    I used to have me a World B. Free poster. He helped save the Cleveland Cavaliers after Ted Stepien almost ran them into the ground.

    There was a case where a friend gave him the nickname “World,” and it stuck so much that he eventually changed it to his real name. I’d bet some family or friends still called him Lloyd, though.

    I wouldn’t have requested a “I’m Calling Him…” shirt back then, because No Mas wasn’t making them at the time. I only brought it up with Chad Ochocinco since it’s timely. No harm intended.

  • Gusto44 | September 16, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”348254″][quote comment=”348244″][quote comment=”348238″][quote comment=”348237″]That college all star uniform is sweet.

    http://sports.ha.com...
    Is anyone wearing pants stripes like that nowadays? That’s a look that needs to resurface somewhere.

    Also, I like how Halas stuck with the same number font for those jerseys that the Bears were using at the time.[/quote]

    I’m sure if Marquette still had a football team they would try to sport those stripes but I don’t know of any football team that do the horizontal pant stripes only basketball teams.[/quote]
    Same for DePaul. If they still had a football program, they could practically use that exact uniform. Maybe not the stars on the shoulder, though.[/quote]

    Actually, the Temple Owls have a similar striping pattern on their football pants. It’s a look they brought back from the 1970s.

  • The Ol Goaler | September 16, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”348233″]According to the Eagles website, Jeff Garcia will wear #9.

    http://www.philadelp...
    Garcia started his career with #5, went to #7 during his first tour of duty with the Eagles, and kept #7 with Tampa Bay… who does he think he is, Sonny Jurgensen?

    And as far as ugly hockey sweaters go; which is worse, this or this?

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    Love all the quote-marked nicknames in this poster.

    Must have been a quote mark quota: James Barton “Mickey” Vernon vs. Mickey (er, um)”Mickey” Mantle.

    BTW, Mickey Vernon is one of, I believe, the 4 managers during the history of the expansion Senators. The other three were Gil Hodges, Jim Lemon and Ted Williams. Just sayin…

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 11:26 am |

    Garcia started his career with #5, went to #7 during his first tour of duty with the Eagles, and kept #7 with Tampa Bay… who does he think he is, Sonny Jurgensen?

    BLASPHEMER!!

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”348287″][quote comment=”348254″][quote comment=”348244″][quote comment=”348238″][quote comment=”348237″]That college all star uniform is sweet.

    http://sports.ha.com...
    Is anyone wearing pants stripes like that nowadays? That’s a look that needs to resurface somewhere.

    Also, I like how Halas stuck with the same number font for those jerseys that the Bears were using at the time.[/quote]

    I’m sure if Marquette still had a football team they would try to sport those stripes but I don’t know of any football team that do the horizontal pant stripes only basketball teams.[/quote]
    Same for DePaul. If they still had a football program, they could practically use that exact uniform. Maybe not the stars on the shoulder, though.[/quote]

    Actually, the Temple Owls have a similar striping pattern on their football pants. It’s a look they brought back from the 1970s.[/quote]
    Good call. I totally forgot about them. And Temple vs. ’Nova a couple weeks ago was a pretty good uni matchup.

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    Actually, the Temple Owls have a similar striping pattern on their football pants. It’s a look they brought back from the 1970s.

    Here’s another similar usage:

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • chance michaels | September 16, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”348281″]These are my favorites from the auction

    long sleeve Bears jersey and pants.[/quote]

    Holy crap! 1938! I’m so lucky that they don’t have a matching Packers uniform.

    I hate the Bears with a blinding passion, but I’ll give ’em this – they have an astonishingly consistent uniform identity. That jersey, more than seventy years old, is nearly identical in style to the modern version. You have to admire that. Begrudgingly.

  • Greenie | September 16, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    “A man has the right to change his name to vatever he vants to change it to. And if a man vants to be called Muhammad Ali, godammit this is a free country, you should respect his vishes, and call the man Muhammad Ali!”

    “His mamma call him Clay, I’monna call him Clay. “

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”348293″][quote comment=”348281″]These are my favorites from the auction

    long sleeve Bears jersey and pants.[/quote]

    Holy crap! 1938! I’m so lucky that they don’t have a matching Packers uniform.

    I hate the Bears with a blinding passion, but I’ll give ’em this – they have an astonishingly consistent uniform identity. That jersey, more than seventy years old, is nearly identical in style to the modern version. You have to admire that. Begrudgingly.[/quote]

    Yeah, and that’s exactly why when someone moans about the Bears in mono white—including socks—looking “old-fashioned”, my first thought usually is…Well, yeah, but that would kinda be okay for them, wouldn’t it?

    I’m not saying old is automatically good. Just that it isn’t automatically bad. In fact, sometimes it’s damn near perfect.

    (That old Bears jersey would make a pretty good DIY, huh; likewise the All-Star Game jersey).

    —Ricko

  • Paul Lukas | September 16, 2009 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”348279″][quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with Chad or his name either – he’s kinda harmless, compared to some other diva receivers. But, Citi Field is New Shea’s legal name as well.[/quote]

    Poor analogy. The term “Citi Field” isn’t a name — it’s a business arrangement between two mega-corporations and an affront to the notion that a ballpark is a public space with shared civic value. Resisting the use of that term, as I will continue to do, isn’t just being cranky — it’s a political statement based on specific principles. (You may not agree with those principles, but that’s a different issue.)

    I’ll say it again: Choosing how we call ourselves is one of the few very personal things we get to control in this life. Honoring that choice, even if it seems like a silly choice, seems like simple courtesy to me.

  • GoTerriers | September 16, 2009 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”348289″]Love all the quote-marked nicknames in this poster.

    Must have been a quote mark quota: James Barton “Mickey” Vernon vs. Mickey (er, um)”Mickey” Mantle.[/quote]

    I just noticed that too. Also odd when you remember that Mickey was not Mantle’s nickname. It was his given name (he was named after his dad’s favorite ballplayer, “Mickey” Cochrane)

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”348297″][quote comment=”348289″]Love all the quote-marked nicknames in this poster.

    Must have been a quote mark quota: James Barton “Mickey” Vernon vs. Mickey (er, um)”Mickey” Mantle.[/quote]

    I just noticed that too. Also odd when you remember that Mickey was not Mantle’s nickname. It was his given name (he was named after his dad’s favorite ballplayer, “Mickey” Cochrane)[/quote]

    That was my point. Obviously not well-made.

  • bourbon soaked idiot | September 16, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”348296″][quote comment=”348279″][quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with Chad or his name either – he’s kinda harmless, compared to some other diva receivers. But, Citi Field is New Shea’s legal name as well.[/quote]

    Poor analogy. The term “Citi Field” isn’t a name — it’s a business arrangement between two mega-corporations and an affront to the notion that a ballpark is a public space with shared civic value. Resisting the use of that term, as I will continue to do, isn’t just being cranky — it’s a political statement based on specific principles. (You may not agree with those principles, but that’s a different issue.)

    I’ll say it again: Choosing how we call ourselves is one of the few very personal things we get to control in this life. Honoring that choice, even if it seems like a silly choice, seems like simple courtesy to me.[/quote]

    I tend to disagree with Paul on a number of things Citi Field included, (strange because I am an old school punk of the same age. I just don’t have any nostalgia for the 30s,40s or 50s)

    …but I wholeheartedly agree with him on what people call themselves. I think he put very eloquently.

    I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”348295″][quote comment=”348293″][quote comment=”348281″]These are my favorites from the auction

    long sleeve Bears jersey and pants.[/quote]

    Holy crap! 1938! I’m so lucky that they don’t have a matching Packers uniform.

    I hate the Bears with a blinding passion, but I’ll give ’em this – they have an astonishingly consistent uniform identity. That jersey, more than seventy years old, is nearly identical in style to the modern version. You have to admire that. Begrudgingly.[/quote]

    Yeah, and that’s exactly why when someone moans about the Bears in mono white—including socks—looking “old-fashioned”, my first thought usually is…Well, yeah, but that would kinda be okay for them, wouldn’t it?

    I’m not saying old is automatically good. Just that it isn’t automatically bad. In fact, sometimes it’s damn near perfect.

    (That old Bears jersey would make a pretty good DIY, huh; likewise the All-Star Game jersey).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    LOL. Maybe not. Looks like there are 20 stars on that jersey, 10 per shoulder (well, at least you can buy ’em at Micheals; saw them back around 4th of July when I was picking up some acrylic paint).

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”348296″][quote comment=”348279″][quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with Chad or his name either – he’s kinda harmless, compared to some other diva receivers. But, Citi Field is New Shea’s legal name as well.[/quote]

    Poor analogy. The term “Citi Field” isn’t a name — it’s a business arrangement between two mega-corporations and an affront to the notion that a ballpark is a public space with shared civic value. Resisting the use of that term, as I will continue to do, isn’t just being cranky — it’s a political statement based on specific principles. (You may not agree with those principles, but that’s a different issue.)

    I’ll say it again: Choosing how we call ourselves is one of the few very personal things we get to control in this life. Honoring that choice, even if it seems like a silly choice, seems like simple courtesy to me.[/quote]

    As I said later in my post, and in another post after that, I respect his choice of name, I was just having some fun with it. I wasn’t trying to turn this into the argument of the day.

  • Christopher | September 16, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.

  • Gusto44 | September 16, 2009 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”348296″][quote comment=”348279″][quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with Chad or his name either – he’s kinda harmless, compared to some other diva receivers. But, Citi Field is New Shea’s legal name as well.[/quote]

    Poor analogy. The term “Citi Field” isn’t a name — it’s a business arrangement between two mega-corporations and an affront to the notion that a ballpark is a public space with shared civic value. Resisting the use of that term, as I will continue to do, isn’t just being cranky — it’s a political statement based on specific principles. (You may not agree with those principles, but that’s a different issue.)

    I’ll say it again: Choosing how we call ourselves is one of the few very personal things we get to control in this life. Honoring that choice, even if it seems like a silly choice, seems like simple courtesy to me.[/quote]

    It could be worse, Chad Johnson could have changed his name to Dirk Diggler.

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”348300″]Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.[/quote]

    ah mannnnn….

    don’t suppose my cable company is offering a free preview of showtime anytime soon…

  • Paul Lukas | September 16, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”348305″][quote comment=”348300″]Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.[/quote]

    ah mannnnn….

    don’t suppose my cable company is offering a free preview of showtime anytime soon…[/quote]

    I’m sure it will be available in a box set next summer. ;o)

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”348307″][quote comment=”348305″][quote comment=”348300″]Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.[/quote]

    ah mannnnn….

    don’t suppose my cable company is offering a free preview of showtime anytime soon…[/quote]

    I’m sure it will be available in a box set next summer. ;o)[/quote]
    As Giancarlo pointed out, very strange choice for the promo ad photo… neither AFL (pic is from early 1980s) nor full-color.

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”348305″][quote comment=”348300″]Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.[/quote]

    ah mannnnn….

    don’t suppose my cable company is offering a free preview of showtime anytime soon…[/quote]

    I’m sure that if it is even a BIT good, there will be a TORRENT of support for it, and it may be available sooner.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”348309″][quote comment=”348307″][quote comment=”348305″][quote comment=”348300″]Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.[/quote]

    ah mannnnn….

    don’t suppose my cable company is offering a free preview of showtime anytime soon…[/quote]

    I’m sure it will be available in a box set next summer. ;o)[/quote]
    As Giancarlo pointed out, very strange choice for the promo ad photo… neither AFL (pic is from early 1980s) nor full-color.[/quote]

    I thought the very same thing, odd?

  • Greenie | September 16, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”348310″][quote comment=”348305″][quote comment=”348300″]Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.[/quote]

    ah mannnnn….

    don’t suppose my cable company is offering a free preview of showtime anytime soon…[/quote]

    I’m sure that if it is even a BIT good, there will be a TORRENT of support for it, and it may be available sooner.[/quote]

    What sort of evil shenanigans are you implying, Hott Rodd?

    BTW, I see to get ‘trout’ very often as a security question. Anyone else?

    -Greenie

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    Yes, [quote comment=”348311″][quote comment=”348309″][quote comment=”348307″][quote comment=”348305″][quote comment=”348300″]Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.[/quote]

    ah mannnnn….

    don’t suppose my cable company is offering a free preview of showtime anytime soon…[/quote]

    I’m sure it will be available in a box set next summer. ;o)[/quote]
    As Giancarlo pointed out, very strange choice for the promo ad photo… neither AFL (pic is from early 1980s) nor full-color.[/quote]

    I thought the very same thing, odd?[/quote]

    Yes, Giancarlo did point this out. Missed that, my bad.

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.

    What about this guy:

    http://www.sbnation....

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”348310″][quote comment=”348305″][quote comment=”348300″]Just a reminder, Full Color Football, The History of the American Football League, airs tonight on Showtime. First time I heard of it was from Curtis, over at Helmet Hut, so they had a hand in this, what looks to be a wonderful 5 week series on the AFL.[/quote]

    ah mannnnn….

    don’t suppose my cable company is offering a free preview of showtime anytime soon…[/quote]

    I’m sure that if it is even a BIT good, there will be a TORRENT of support for it, and it may be available sooner.[/quote]

    nice ;)

    and just in case anyone didn’t get it

  • Tick | September 16, 2009 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”348246″]DenverGregg, Would you or any other Buffalo fan know if the colors are correct in this football figure? I saved as many pictures as I could of this guys figures before he quit selling them.

    He has this guy as 1941 Colorado. I was thinking of trying to colorize the Byron Whizzer White Colorado picture I posted in #19

    Here is the figure. Is it accurate?

    http://img.photobuck...

    I would lean towards the colors being close – my parents attended Colorado State and their song they used to sing about University of Colorado was “to hell with the nickle and the brass” (making fun of there silver and gold).

  • The Jeff | September 16, 2009 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    Would that really be a bad thing? What’s wrong with letting players do that? Assuming a player has been in the league for a few seasons and has earned a nickname, why not let them put it on their jersey? I think the real problem is that there’s no good nicknames anymore. Everyone is just initials… T.O., L.T. etc.. or lameness like Ocho Cinco.

    I love the idea of SNAKE, DR DEATH or PRIMETIME on the back of a jersey.

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”348306″]I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    hmmmm

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”348312″]

    What sort of evil shenanigans are you implying, Hott Rodd?

    -Greenie[/quote]

    me, imply evil shenanigans? i’m sure I have no idea what you mean. SO a few people may know where to HUNT down videos. I , however, do not.

  • Jeff | September 16, 2009 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    That’s a pretty odd slippery-slope argument there. Who care’s how many people end up doing it, whether it be 1 or all? They would be changing their LEGAL name. That’s a pretty big step.

  • Bobby | September 16, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure he’s saying if the league would’ve let him change it on his jersey before it was legally changed you would’ve had others following suit, nothing to do with other people legally changing their names.

  • bourbon soaked idiot | September 16, 2009 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name or change it for religious reasons or as Maurice Jones-Drew did, change it to honor his grandfather.

    I doubt the comissioner would force them to wear their old name until the next season. Godell was letting his dislike of Ochocinco and his love of RBK money make the desicion.

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name

    You mean, such as “pussy-whip”?

  • Shaggy | September 16, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”348223″]I like the Colorado Buffs alt uni. Ironic that both Boulder and Denver will wear yellow/gold jerseys this fall after a long absence. The Buffs would probably fare as well with the 1937 players as they are with the kids out there this year.[/quote]

    In addition to the uniforms, the field will be painted with designs of the era, especially in the end zones. The field will also be have a mark noting the 150th anniversary of the City of Boulder.

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”348322″][quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name or change it for religious reasons or as Maurice Jones-Drew did, change it to honor his grandfather.

    I doubt the comissioner would force them to wear their old name until the next season. Godell was letting his dislike of Ochocinco and his love of RBK money make the desicion.[/quote]

    I’m sure glad that the NFL blocked the trade of Richard Seymour. Wouldn’t want Reebok stuck with a bunch of jerseys no one wants. And they avoided the appearance of a double standard.

  • JoeS | September 16, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote]And speaking of World Series programs, here’s a doozy.[/quote]
    On that 1933 WS program above ( http://sports.ha.com... ) can someone tell me why it says Giants vs SENATORS on the first image, but then the other image says Washington NATIONALS vs NY Giants? I don\’t know the history of the team, so have they always gone by two names? Even the wikipedia page (grain of salt, gulp) says Senators, but then says \”The Giants easily defeated the Nats…\” ( http://en.wikipedia.... )

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    Check it out, JoeS

    http://www.sportsecy...

  • Squiddie | September 16, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    Let’s Go Bowling (Short documentary about a church bowling alley.)

  • Hank | September 16, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”348326″][quote]And speaking of World Series programs, here’s a doozy.[/quote]
    On that 1933 WS program above ( http://sports.ha.com... ) can someone tell me why it says Giants vs SENATORS on the first image, but then the other image says Washington NATIONALS vs NY Giants? I don\’t know the history of the team, so have they always gone by two names? Even the wikipedia page (grain of salt, gulp) says Senators, but then says \”The Giants easily defeated the Nats…\” ( http://en.wikipedia.... )[/quote]

    From sportsecyclopedia.com:

    Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.

  • JoeS | September 16, 2009 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”348329″][quote comment=”348326″][quote]And speaking of World Series programs, here’s a doozy.[/quote]
    On that 1933 WS program above ( http://sports.ha.com... ) can someone tell me why it says Giants vs SENATORS on the first image, but then the other image says Washington NATIONALS vs NY Giants? I don\’t know the history of the team, so have they always gone by two names? Even the wikipedia page (grain of salt, gulp) says Senators, but then says \”The Giants easily defeated the Nats…\” ( http://en.wikipedia.... )[/quote]

    From sportsecyclopedia.com:

    Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.[/quote]
    Thanks! Interesting that the WS program would use both names instead of sticking with the official one (or the other, I guess. But both?)

  • Gusto44 | September 16, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”348325″][quote comment=”348322″][quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name or change it for religious reasons or as Maurice Jones-Drew did, change it to honor his grandfather.

    I doubt the comissioner would force them to wear their old name until the next season. Godell was letting his dislike of Ochocinco and his love of RBK money make the desicion.[/quote]

    I’m sure glad that the NFL blocked the trade of Richard Seymour. Wouldn’t want Reebok stuck with a bunch of jerseys no one wants. And they avoided the appearance of a double standard.[/quote]

    Hey, what about all those Jets fans who spent a ton of money for those Favre jerseys last year? I realize it’s a different situation, but it’s a risk one takes with veteran players. Obviously the jersey business back in the day was minimal, but it would have been interesting to see if anyone has a Rams #12 Joe Namath or a Seahawks #34 Franco Harris jersey. At least #19 Joe Montana, provided some highlights for the Chiefs.

  • chance michaels | September 16, 2009 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”348326″][quote]And speaking of World Series programs, here’s a doozy.[/quote]
    On that 1933 WS program above ( http://sports.ha.com... ) can someone tell me why it says Giants vs SENATORS on the first image, but then the other image says Washington NATIONALS vs NY Giants? I don\’t know the history of the team, so have they always gone by two names? Even the wikipedia page (grain of salt, gulp) says Senators, but then says \”The Giants easily defeated the Nats…\” ( http://en.wikipedia.... )[/quote]
    Yep, they had two nicknames.

    “Nationals” was the official nickname for most of the team’s existence, but from what I understand most fans called them the “Senators”. When the expansion franchise was granted, they made it official.

  • Scott Zielan | September 16, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    The Colorado throwbacks don’t look very ‘throwback-ish’ (maybe it’s the swoosh). Just an uglier version of the direction they’ve been headed. Used to be one of my favorite CFB uniforms.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”348331″][quote comment=”348325″][quote comment=”348322″][quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name or change it for religious reasons or as Maurice Jones-Drew did, change it to honor his grandfather.

    I doubt the comissioner would force them to wear their old name until the next season. Godell was letting his dislike of Ochocinco and his love of RBK money make the desicion.[/quote]

    I’m sure glad that the NFL blocked the trade of Richard Seymour. Wouldn’t want Reebok stuck with a bunch of jerseys no one wants. And they avoided the appearance of a double standard.[/quote]

    Hey, what about all those Jets fans who spent a ton of money for those Favre jerseys last year? I realize it’s a different situation, but it’s a risk one takes with veteran players. Obviously the jersey business back in the day was minimal, but it would have been interesting to see if anyone has a Rams #12 Joe Namath or a Seahawks #34 Franco Harris jersey. At least #19 Joe Montana, provided some highlights for the Chiefs.[/quote]

    Franco, you will always be a Seahawk to me. (looking up at the sky with a tear in my eye)

  • Carl | September 16, 2009 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”348288″]
    And as far as ugly hockey sweaters go; which is worse, this or this?[/quote]

    The only true answer is YES. Although I think the Blues sweater causes the eyes to bleed less due to the illusion of motion with the inclined striping. Rumor has is that the Vancouver jerseys saved money for the team by collecting all the fans tears upon viewing those and freezing them for the playing surface.

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 1:32 pm |

    I’m sure glad that the NFL blocked the trade of Richard Seymour. Wouldn’t want Reebok stuck with a bunch of jerseys no one wants.

    Perhaps there will be someone with the name Seymour available to the Pats in the upcoming draft. :)

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 1:34 pm |

    So after we won our Softball championship last night, I asked if anyone wanted to do the Prince Fielder celebration, but no one was interested. Odd.

  • Dane | September 16, 2009 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”348266″]I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    Yeah! Why should Norway have all the fun?!?!
    http://www.huffingto...

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 1:51 pm |

    Hey Frosty, check out p.262 of the auction catalogue.

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”348337″]So after we won our Softball championship last night, I asked if anyone wanted to do the Prince Fielder celebration, but no one was interested. Odd.[/quote]

    Is it slow-pitch? At least they wouldn’t have to worry about getting plunked very hard next year…

    Not that they couldn’t get hurt in other ways. I was watching CFL highlights on the TSN web site. In the BC/Montreal game, Montreal DB Joel Wright leaped high in the air to celebrate a special teams tackle. He came down hard and the wrong way, and ended up on crutches. Oops.

    Speaking of celebrations, Mr. Ochocinco is planning a Lambeau Leap if he scores Sunday.

  • mike 2 | September 16, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”348331″][quote comment=”348325″][quote comment=”348322″][quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name or change it for religious reasons or as Maurice Jones-Drew did, change it to honor his grandfather.

    I doubt the comissioner would force them to wear their old name until the next season. Godell was letting his dislike of Ochocinco and his love of RBK money make the desicion.[/quote]

    I’m sure glad that the NFL blocked the trade of Richard Seymour. Wouldn’t want Reebok stuck with a bunch of jerseys no one wants. And they avoided the appearance of a double standard.[/quote]

    Hey, what about all those Jets fans who spent a ton of money for those Favre jerseys last year? I realize it’s a different situation, but it’s a risk one takes with veteran players. Obviously the jersey business back in the day was minimal, but it would have been interesting to see if anyone has a Rams #12 Joe Namath or a Seahawks #34 Franco Harris jersey. At least #19 Joe Montana, provided some highlights for the Chiefs.[/quote]

    Getting a jersey personalized, those are the chances you take. You might get something that looks awesome for fifteen years or you might get something that lands you on Straight Cash Homey the first time you wear it.

    But going back a few years, it seemed like every sports shop had a heat press or would do up the jerseys as they were ordered. There wasn’t a sports shop in every mall with pre-embroidered jerseys, so the issue of having a backlog of jerseys wasn’t an issue.

  • Samuel | September 16, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    I just received a press release that the 49ers will feature Visa on their practice jerseys now.

    No pictures of it just yet, but I don’t like this at all.

  • chance michaels | September 16, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”348340″]
    Speaking of celebrations, Mr. Ochocinco is planning a Lambeau Leap if he scores Sunday.[/quote]

    I know Ochocinco’s act is tired, but now he’s reduced to stealing from others?

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote]Speaking of celebrations, Mr. Ochocinco is planning a Lambeau Leap if he scores Sunday[/quote]

    lets hope the packers can render that moot

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”348334″][quote comment=”348331″][quote comment=”348325″][quote comment=”348322″][quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name or change it for religious reasons or as Maurice Jones-Drew did, change it to honor his grandfather.

    I doubt the comissioner would force them to wear their old name until the next season. Godell was letting his dislike of Ochocinco and his love of RBK money make the desicion.[/quote]

    I’m sure glad that the NFL blocked the trade of Richard Seymour. Wouldn’t want Reebok stuck with a bunch of jerseys no one wants. And they avoided the appearance of a double standard.[/quote]

    Hey, what about all those Jets fans who spent a ton of money for those Favre jerseys last year? I realize it’s a different situation, but it’s a risk one takes with veteran players. Obviously the jersey business back in the day was minimal, but it would have been interesting to see if anyone has a Rams #12 Joe Namath or a Seahawks #34 Franco Harris jersey. At least #19 Joe Montana, provided some highlights for the Chiefs.[/quote]

    Franco, you will always be a Seahawk to me. (looking up at the sky with a tear in my eye)[/quote]

    Probably good. Cuz I don’t imagine Franco is “always a Seahawk” to very many, most notably not Franco hisself.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 2:21 pm |

    Someday soon, we’ll look back with fondness and nostalgia at those classic Phoenix Coyotes unis:
    http://www.sportingn...

  • 1fa2 Dane | September 16, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”348344″][quote]Speaking of celebrations, Mr. Ochocinco is planning a Lambeau Leap if he scores Sunday[/quote]

    lets hope the packers can render that moot[/quote]

    The Packers won’t need to do anything. I’m sure the Bengals offense will prevent Ocho Cinco from scoring a touchdown.

  • JohnnyO | September 16, 2009 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”348344″][quote]Speaking of celebrations, Mr. Ochocinco is planning a Lambeau Leap if he scores Sunday[/quote]

    lets hope the packers can render that moot[/quote]

    Here is the article:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    And Phil… don’t you mean “render that Smoot”? Remember what happened to him when he tried a Lambeau Leap? (skip to about 1:30 in the video)

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I will be at the game on Sunday (da da da da, da da da da… GO PACK GO)), so I will get to see this first hand if Chad 85 scores.

  • mike 2 | September 16, 2009 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”348296″][quote comment=”348279″][quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with Chad or his name either – he’s kinda harmless, compared to some other diva receivers. But, Citi Field is New Shea’s legal name as well.[/quote]

    Poor analogy. The term “Citi Field” isn’t a name — it’s a business arrangement between two mega-corporations and an affront to the notion that a ballpark is a public space with shared civic value. Resisting the use of that term, as I will continue to do, isn’t just being cranky — it’s a political statement based on specific principles. (You may not agree with those principles, but that’s a different issue.)

    I’ll say it again: Choosing how we call ourselves is one of the few very personal things we get to control in this life. Honoring that choice, even if it seems like a silly choice, seems like simple courtesy to me.[/quote]

    Agree completely.

    Going back a few years, the Blue Jays had Manny Lee on their roster and he asked to be called by his full first name, Manuel and I remember the radio announcer (Tom Cheek, RIP) talking about it on a broadcast and saying basically the same thing, that it is nothing more than common courtesy to use the name that a person chooses to be called by.

    Same thing a few years later when Angel Martinez asked to be called Sandy Hernandez (his middle rather than his first name).

    The principle doesn’t change just because your name is embroidered on collectible sportswear.

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”348348″]da da da da, da da da da… GO PACK GO[/quote]
    Oh, yeah. I forgot to mention that one yesterday.

    Annoying? Yes. (But not nearly as much as that damned horn in the Metrodome — especially when you’re sitting there watching your team get its brains beaten in.)

    They seem to pick some odd moments to do that, too. After the Bears gain 6 yards on first down? Uh, OK.

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”348350″]They seem to pick some odd moments to do that, too. After the Bears gain 6 yards on first down? Uh, OK.[/quote]
    I’m referring to the GO, PACK, GO thing, not the viking horn.

  • Gusto44 | September 16, 2009 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”348345″][quote comment=”348334″][quote comment=”348331″][quote comment=”348325″][quote comment=”348322″][quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name or change it for religious reasons or as Maurice Jones-Drew did, change it to honor his grandfather.

    I doubt the comissioner would force them to wear their old name until the next season. Godell was letting his dislike of Ochocinco and his love of RBK money make the desicion.[/quote]

    I’m sure glad that the NFL blocked the trade of Richard Seymour. Wouldn’t want Reebok stuck with a bunch of jerseys no one wants. And they avoided the appearance of a double standard.[/quote]

    Hey, what about all those Jets fans who spent a ton of money for those Favre jerseys last year? I realize it’s a different situation, but it’s a risk one takes with veteran players. Obviously the jersey business back in the day was minimal, but it would have been interesting to see if anyone has a Rams #12 Joe Namath or a Seahawks #34 Franco Harris jersey. At least #19 Joe Montana, provided some highlights for the Chiefs.[/quote]

    Franco, you will always be a Seahawk to me. (looking up at the sky with a tear in my eye)[/quote]

    Probably good. Cuz I don’t imagine Franco is “always a Seahawk” to very many, most notably not Franco hisself.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s right, I think that guy who replied is a Browns fan. Speaking of great players in unlikely jerseys, how about John Unitas wearing Lance Alworth’s #19 for the 1973 San Diego Chargers? I recall Unitas telling a story about getting ready for practice one day, and a bunch of Chargers were just sitting around smoking grass.

  • James Craven | September 16, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    To answer the question on Robin Roberts’ “1876” uniform, the National League celebrated its’ centennial that year, and for the Phillies, their annual Old-Timers’ Game became a celebrity game with the rules based off those that were in 1876. Not only did former baseball players play, but former football and basketball players, a couple of the Flyers and media personalities played in the game complete with old-fashioned “bottle bats” and the late Thatcher Longstreth (who was a “Philadelphia Lawyer” on Saturday Night Dead) umpired the game.

  • Christopher | September 16, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Oh, I wasn’t saying that. I was saying that if the NFL allowed him to put Ocho Cinco on his jersey *without* his loophole, everyone would start doing it.

    I do agree with you that since he legally changed his name, its his name and should be respected.

    If he didn’t do that, I would have a problem with him putting it on his jersey.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”348352″][quote comment=”348345″][quote comment=”348334″][quote comment=”348331″][quote comment=”348325″][quote comment=”348322″][quote comment=”348306″][quote comment=”348303″][quote comment=”348299″]I tend to think the NFL was wrong in not letting Ochocinco change his jersey last year.[/quote]

    Yeah, but these sorts of things lead to bad trends. I like Chad Ochocinco, I think he’s a fun guy.

    But if you let one dude change his name on his jersey (and I, too, would have no problem with this one guy doing it)… 20, 30, 40 players are going to do it, getting progressively lamer each time.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt 20, 30 (or any) players will go to the lengths of legally changing their name, as Chad did.[/quote]

    Suppose a player were to get married midway through the season and hyphenate his name or change it for religious reasons or as Maurice Jones-Drew did, change it to honor his grandfather.

    I doubt the comissioner would force them to wear their old name until the next season. Godell was letting his dislike of Ochocinco and his love of RBK money make the desicion.[/quote]

    I’m sure glad that the NFL blocked the trade of Richard Seymour. Wouldn’t want Reebok stuck with a bunch of jerseys no one wants. And they avoided the appearance of a double standard.[/quote]

    Hey, what about all those Jets fans who spent a ton of money for those Favre jerseys last year? I realize it’s a different situation, but it’s a risk one takes with veteran players. Obviously the jersey business back in the day was minimal, but it would have been interesting to see if anyone has a Rams #12 Joe Namath or a Seahawks #34 Franco Harris jersey. At least #19 Joe Montana, provided some highlights for the Chiefs.[/quote]

    Franco, you will always be a Seahawk to me. (looking up at the sky with a tear in my eye)[/quote]

    Probably good. Cuz I don’t imagine Franco is “always a Seahawk” to very many, most notably not Franco hisself.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s right, I think that guy who replied is a Browns fan. Speaking of great players in unlikely jerseys, how about John Unitas wearing Lance Alworth’s #19 for the 1973 San Diego Chargers? I recall Unitas telling a story about getting ready for practice one day, and a bunch of Chargers were just sitting around smoking grass.[/quote]

    Direct from the Dog Pound….heh heh….Seriously though, I heard Franco won’t sign any Seahawks gear. lol

    Franco’s one of my favorite vintage NFL players, absolutely love Corning’s illustration of him.

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?

  • Christopher | September 16, 2009 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”348349″][quote comment=”348296″][quote comment=”348279″][quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with Chad or his name either – he’s kinda harmless, compared to some other diva receivers. But, Citi Field is New Shea’s legal name as well.[/quote]

    Poor analogy. The term “Citi Field” isn’t a name — it’s a business arrangement between two mega-corporations and an affront to the notion that a ballpark is a public space with shared civic value. Resisting the use of that term, as I will continue to do, isn’t just being cranky — it’s a political statement based on specific principles. (You may not agree with those principles, but that’s a different issue.)

    I’ll say it again: Choosing how we call ourselves is one of the few very personal things we get to control in this life. Honoring that choice, even if it seems like a silly choice, seems like simple courtesy to me.[/quote]

    Agree completely.

    Going back a few years, the Blue Jays had Manny Lee on their roster and he asked to be called by his full first name, Manuel and I remember the radio announcer (Tom Cheek, RIP) talking about it on a broadcast and saying basically the same thing, that it is nothing more than common courtesy to use the name that a person chooses to be called by.

    Same thing a few years later when Angel Martinez asked to be called Sandy Hernandez (his middle rather than his first name).

    The principle doesn’t change just because your name is embroidered on collectible sportswear.[/quote]

    Last year, White Sox infielder Alexi Ramerez asked to have his name pronounced (what I assume was correctly in his native tounge) as “ah-lezz-ee”. The anouncers, and no one else, respected this though.

  • Christopher | September 16, 2009 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”348356″]Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?[/quote]

    raw umber and burnt sienna.

  • Scott Davis | September 16, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”348356″]Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?[/quote]

    Whatever color JTH decided on for his bathroom.

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”348356″]Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?[/quote]

    you know damn well ;)

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”348360″][quote comment=”348356″]Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?[/quote]

    you know damn well ;)[/quote]

    I am 99% sure I’m gonna wind up with that damn color in my bedroom now..

  • DenverGregg | September 16, 2009 at 3:32 pm |

    The name-changing talk reminds me of the great story about Reds infielder Roberto Kelly. He had gone by Roberto, then switched to Bobby, then back to Roberto since “That Bobby guy was always hurt.”

  • GoTerriers | September 16, 2009 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=\”348356\”]Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?[/quote]
    I see the conversation today is turning into the meeting on the mound scene from “Bull Durham”

    “Okay, well, uh… candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she’s registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern. Okay, let’s get two! Go get ’em.”

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”348359″][quote comment=”348356″]Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?[/quote]

    Whatever color JTH decided on for his bathroom.[/quote]
    http://www.uniwatchb...

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”348363″][quote comment=\”348356\”]Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?[/quote]
    I see the conversation today is turning into the meeting on the mound scene from “Bull Durham”

    “Okay, well, uh… candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she’s registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern. Okay, let’s get two! Go get ’em.”[/quote]

    Eh i was just trying to lighten the mood..

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”348345″]
    … most notably not Franco hisself.[/quote]
    Those “were” the days my friend.

    Is there anything even roughly akin to Franco’s Italian Army or Gerela’s Gorrillas these days? Or the Hogettes for that matter?

    You get one or two guys dressing the same way (think Oakland) and the Cleveland Dawg Pound guy; but as far as individual fan clubs or seating areas, those seem to be thing of the past.

  • GoTerriers | September 16, 2009 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”348365″][quote comment=”348363″][quote comment=\”348356\”]Anyone have any ideas for trim colors for my den?[/quote]
    I see the conversation today is turning into the meeting on the mound scene from “Bull Durham”

    “Okay, well, uh… candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she’s registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern. Okay, let’s get two! Go get ’em.”[/quote]

    Eh i was just trying to lighten the mood..[/quote]

    I didn’t say I didn’t appreciate the effort.
    : – )

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”348361″]you know damn well…[/quote]We ain’t got dames?

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”348357″]
    Last year, White Sox infielder Alexi Ramerez asked to have his name pronounced (what I assume was correctly in his native tounge) as “ah-lezz-ee”. The anouncers, and no one else, respected this though.[/quote]

    I can’t wait until Dayan Viciedo gets to the big club. I think Ed Farmer will retire. :-)

  • GoTerriers | September 16, 2009 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”348368″][quote comment=”348361″]you know damn well…[/quote]We ain’t got dames?[/quote]
    Wow. . . a “South Pacific” reference.

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 3:44 pm |

    Very very loosely uni-related:
    http://www.sportingn...
    Eddie Izzard’s standup attire is not what you’d expect, but he’s hilarious, and he’s doing a good thing running marathons for charity. There’s a link in this article to his “Death Star Canteen” routine, which is just plain funny. Even though it’s done with Lego animation, it’s not for the kiddies.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”348343″]I know Ochocinco’s act is tired, but now he’s reduced to stealing from others?[/quote]
    Well, maybe he’ll propose to one of the Packer’s college-age cheerleaders.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”348370″]Wow. . . a “South Pacific” reference.[/quote]
    I’m chanelling Marv Alberts today.

  • LarryB | September 16, 2009 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”348277″][quote comment=”348274″][quote comment=”348246″]DenverGregg, Would you or any other Buffalo fan know if the colors are correct in this football figure? I saved as many pictures as I could of this guys figures before he quit selling them.

    He has this guy as 1941 Colorado. I was thinking of trying to colorize the Byron Whizzer White Colorado picture I posted in #19

    Here is the figure. Is it accurate?

    http://img.photobuck...
    Sorry to say I don’t know. That’s a little before my time.[/quote]

    I spent a lot of years trying to determine uni colors from only b&w sources. And, yes, metallic gold almost always photographs darker than silver. That said, that Whizzer White photo is a certified bitch…because not only are we trying to determine what’s silver or gold, we also have deal with satin and matte finish fabrics, which can lead us WAY off in wrong directions.

    Odds are, it’s pretty basic. But the “hodgepodge” possibilities are numerous, with some of them quite ghastly. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Thanks Ricko. Since I colorize old sports pictures I too try and figure out the colors. I agree that gold appears darker. You can tell when you actually know a helmet or color is gold. Like a b&w picture of an old Army or ND helmet

    When I saw thT Whizzer White picture I naturally thought this may be fun to try and colorize.

    I may give it a shot in the future. Yes that was the era of satin and different materials. And I like that guys football figures. I just tedn to question the accuracy of some of them.

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”348371″]Very very loosely uni-related:
    http://www.sportingn...
    Eddie Izzard’s standup attire is not what you’d expect, but he’s hilarious, and he’s doing a good thing running marathons for charity. There’s a link in this article to his “Death Star Canteen” routine, which is just plain funny. Even though it’s done with Lego animation, it’s not for the kiddies.[/quote]

    JimV, do you have a flag?

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”348375″][quote comment=”348371″]Very very loosely uni-related:
    http://www.sportingn...
    Eddie Izzard’s standup attire is not what you’d expect, but he’s hilarious, and he’s doing a good thing running marathons for charity. There’s a link in this article to his “Death Star Canteen” routine, which is just plain funny. Even though it’s done with Lego animation, it’s not for the kiddies.[/quote]

    JimV, do you have a flag?[/quote]

    Yes, but my flag holder’s currently broken…but I’m guessing you mean something else?

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”348376″][quote comment=”348375″][quote comment=”348371″]Very very loosely uni-related:
    http://www.sportingn...
    Eddie Izzard’s standup attire is not what you’d expect, but he’s hilarious, and he’s doing a good thing running marathons for charity. There’s a link in this article to his “Death Star Canteen” routine, which is just plain funny. Even though it’s done with Lego animation, it’s not for the kiddies.[/quote]

    JimV, do you have a flag?[/quote]

    Yes, but my flag holder’s currently broken…but I’m guessing you mean something else?[/quote]

    ‘Twas an Eddie Izzard reference.. No flag, no country.

  • LarryB | September 16, 2009 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”348279″][quote comment=”348266″][quote comment=”348260″][quote comment=”348226″]And Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him the spanish translation of eight five) more than likely has a sprained of broken finger. I’ve done that tape job over my soccer goalkeeper gloves when my fingers were broken on a regular basis.[/quote]

    Attention No Mas: another potential customer for an “I’m Calling Him Chad Johnson” t-shirt…[/quote]

    Whatever you think of the guy, Ochocinco is his legal name. I don’t have a problem with that, no matter how silly it sounds.

    Forty-five years ago, lots of people were saying, “Ali? Forget that, I’m still calling him Clay.” Seems pretty stupid now, right? I’m not trying to equate these two athletes in any way except for the fact that we all get to control certain things in this life, and how we wish to call ourselves — and, hence, be called by others — is one of them.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with Chad or his name either – he’s kinda harmless, compared to some other diva receivers. But, Citi Field is New Shea’s legal name as well. We give people and buildings nicknames all the time, so while I respect and acknowledge his choice of name, he also has to realize some people will still call him by his old one and he should have a sense of humor about it. That doesn’t mean you SHOULD make a shirt, just having some fun.

    I’ve been called all sorts of things. The ones that aren’t derogatory, even if they’re not my first choice of names, are fine with me. As long as people acknowledge my original name as well.

    And to answer a question posed about a different name, I’m pretty sure Roberto Clemente never went by “Bob” or “Bobby.” The baseball cards and radio announcers used those names, but I don’t know what his reaction to them were – I loaned my Clemente biography to a friend before I got to read it.[/quote]

    The great Bob Prince called Clemente Bobby often. He also used Roberto and the great one, but I remember he used Bobby alot.

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”348377″][quote comment=”348376″][quote comment=”348375″][quote comment=”348371″]Very very loosely uni-related:
    http://www.sportingn...
    Eddie Izzard’s standup attire is not what you’d expect, but he’s hilarious, and he’s doing a good thing running marathons for charity. There’s a link in this article to his “Death Star Canteen” routine, which is just plain funny. Even though it’s done with Lego animation, it’s not for the kiddies.[/quote]

    JimV, do you have a flag?[/quote]

    Yes, but my flag holder’s currently broken…but I’m guessing you mean something else?[/quote]

    ‘Twas an Eddie Izzard reference.. No flag, no country.[/quote]

    Oh, that’s right! http://www.youtube.c... Another good one.

    The “Cake or Death” sketch is great. http://www.youtube.c...

    This one’s even kid friendly: http://www.youtube.c...

  • JohnnyO | September 16, 2009 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”348372″][quote comment=”348343″]I know Ochocinco’s act is tired, but now he’s reduced to stealing from others?[/quote]
    Well, maybe he’ll propose to one of the Packer’s college-age cheerleaders.[/quote]

    Well, maybe my alma-mater, St. Norbert College, will be cheering that day. That would make headlines around campus for sure.
    (In case people don’t know, St. Norbert College and UW-Green Bay alternate every other week for cheer duties at Lambeau)

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”348378″]The great Bob Prince called Clemente Bobby often. He also used Roberto and the great one, but I remember he used Bobby alot.[/quote]
    Public television had a (great) documentary on Clemente this spring: I think some of the early newspaper stories in Pittsburgh refered to him as “Bob” or something like that, rather than Roberto.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”348380″]Well, maybe my alma-mater, St. Norbert College, will be cheering that day.[/quote]
    Still the site of the Packers summer camp?

    (BTW, at least you have some cheerleaders. The Bears are limited to Staley (the guy in a furry Bear suit) and a fan with a flag. Thanks again Mike McCaskey!! :-(((

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”348380″][quote comment=”348372″][quote comment=”348343″]I know Ochocinco’s act is tired, but now he’s reduced to stealing from others?[/quote]
    Well, maybe he’ll propose to one of the Packer’s college-age cheerleaders.[/quote]

    Well, maybe my alma-mater, St. Norbert College, will be cheering that day. That would make headlines around campus for sure.
    (In case people don’t know, St. Norbert College and UW-Green Bay alternate every other week for cheer duties at Lambeau)[/quote]
    It was UWGB this past Sunday, so I guess it will be Norbert’s this weekend.

  • LarryB | September 16, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”348316″][quote comment=”348246″]DenverGregg, Would you or any other Buffalo fan know if the colors are correct in this football figure? I saved as many pictures as I could of this guys figures before he quit selling them.

    He has this guy as 1941 Colorado. I was thinking of trying to colorize the Byron Whizzer White Colorado picture I posted in #19

    Here is the figure. Is it accurate?

    http://img.photobuck...

    I would lean towards the colors being close – my parents attended Colorado State and their song they used to sing about University of Colorado was “to hell with the nickle and the brass” (making fun of there silver and gold).[/quote]

    Again thanks for the input to anybody who ventured a guess.

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”348259″]”@MatthewHass008 http://twitpic.com/h... – NFL practice jersey about to look like Nascar? Bing is one of our new sponsors. #bing #nfl #microsoft For the record— big fan of Bing.com …. And I like Nascar—- and Ricky Bobby.”[/quote]

    Yep, and here it is on the flesh.

  • JohnnyO | September 16, 2009 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”348382″][quote comment=”348380″]Well, maybe my alma-mater, St. Norbert College, will be cheering that day.[/quote]
    Still the site of the Packers summer camp?

    (BTW, at least you have some cheerleaders. The Bears are limited to Staley (the guy in a furry Bear suit) and a fan with a flag. Thanks again Mike McCaskey!! :-((([/quote]

    Yes it is. They stay in VMC dorm, and Ahman Green stayed in my pad one summer I found out. They bring in their own big screen TV’s, and A/C.

  • Curtis | September 16, 2009 at 4:21 pm |

    It appears as if the seahawks are the latest team to don a sponsor on their practice jerseys
    http://www.seahawks....

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”348385″][quote comment=”348259″]”@MatthewHass008 http://twitpic.com/h... – NFL practice jersey about to look like Nascar? Bing is one of our new sponsors. #bing #nfl #microsoft For the record— big fan of Bing.com …. And I like Nascar—- and Ricky Bobby.”[/quote]

    Yep, and here it is on the flesh.[/quote]

    All I wanted was a green jersey, but instead all I got was a crummy bing patch. ;o(

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”348380″]In case people don’t know, St. Norbert College and UW-Green Bay alternate every other week for cheer duties at Lambeau[/quote]
    BTW JohnnyO, do the Packers still have the “Green” and “Gold” ticket packages for the former County Stadium ticket holders?

    Strikes me as a tough year for the former Milwaukee group if they were shut out of both the Bears game and the season opener in one fell swoop last week.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”348386″]Yes it is. They stay in VMC dorm, and Ahman Green stayed in my pad one summer I found out. They bring in their own big screen TV’s, and A/C.[/quote]
    The Bears also have a summer camp at school with a relgious basis: must be wierd for students to see the big screens, etc. come in and go out.

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”348388″][quote comment=”348385″][quote comment=”348259″]”@MatthewHass008 http://twitpic.com/h... – NFL practice jersey about to look like Nascar? Bing is one of our new sponsors. #bing #nfl #microsoft For the record— big fan of Bing.com …. And I like Nascar—- and Ricky Bobby.”[/quote]

    Yep, and here it is on the flesh.[/quote]

    All I wanted was a green jersey, but instead all I got was a crummy bing patch. ;o([/quote]
    What color are the wordmarks on those jerseys? That one looks purple.

  • Hott Rodd | September 16, 2009 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”348388″][quote comment=”348385″][quote comment=”348259″]”@MatthewHass008 http://twitpic.com/h... – NFL practice jersey about to look like Nascar? Bing is one of our new sponsors. #bing #nfl #microsoft For the record— big fan of Bing.com …. And I like Nascar—- and Ricky Bobby.”[/quote]

    Yep, and here it is on the flesh.[/quote]

    All I wanted was a green jersey, but instead all I got was a crummy bing patch. ;o([/quote]

    Hey Mike, any truth to the rumor that this company is in talks to get a patch on the right shoulder?

  • Scott Davis | September 16, 2009 at 4:28 pm |

    Just letting anyone in the San Jose area know…. the San Jose Giants (single A) are giving away two free playoff tix to everyone who comes with this page: http://www.sjgiants....

  • Eric | September 16, 2009 at 4:31 pm |

    The new Irish national team rugby kit is a gigantic improvement over the tired and overused Canterbury template still used by Scotland, Australia, South Africa, the USA, and a million club teams.

  • LarryB | September 16, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    I love looking at those auctions. You can spend a lot of time looking and admiring.

    I do not have Showtime now. I wish I still did. I am wondering how much different film they will use. I have done screen grabs from the old AFL teams. Those were done from NFL films work. SO I am wondering if they are only going to use what I have already seen from NFL films. I can not imagine they have other film. Unless it is like the When it was a game series and people filmed color footage.

    Very curious.

  • JohnnyO | September 16, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”348389″][quote comment=”348380″]In case people don’t know, St. Norbert College and UW-Green Bay alternate every other week for cheer duties at Lambeau[/quote]
    BTW JohnnyO, do the Packers still have the “Green” and “Gold” ticket packages for the former County Stadium ticket holders?

    Strikes me as a tough year for the former Milwaukee group if they were shut out of both the Bears game and the season opener in one fell swoop last week.[/quote]

    They sure do have the Gold Package. In fact, the game this week is one of those. (My friend’s parents got the gold package season tickets after 30+ years. They had the option to take the gold package, or keep waiting for the full season tickets. They did not hesitate, and took these. They are 56 years old)

    Anyways, the Gold Pkg. got the 1st pre-season game this year (Browns), the Bengals this week, and then the Cowboys on the 15th of November. It is rare to see the gold pkg. not get a divisional rival. 2003 gold pkg. was Detroit and Philly, 2006 was Saints and Pats, 2007 was Chargers and Vikings, and 2008 was Cowboys and Bears. Those were the only magnetic schedules still left on the fridge, so sorry for the absence of ’04 and ’05.

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”348390″][quote comment=”348386″]Yes it is. They stay in VMC dorm, and Ahman Green stayed in my pad one summer I found out. They bring in their own big screen TV’s, and A/C.[/quote]
    The Bears also have a summer camp at school with a relgious basis: must be wierd for students to see the big screens, etc. come in and go out.[/quote]
    Religous? Yes. Amish? No.

    I know alumni of both schools and as far as I know, they were all familiar with modern technology before they enrolled.

  • bill | September 16, 2009 at 4:37 pm |

    Patrick Swayze in high school football uni circa 1971.

    http://www.texasmont...

  • M.Princip | September 16, 2009 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”348392″][quote comment=”348388″][quote comment=”348385″][quote comment=”348259″]”@MatthewHass008 http://twitpic.com/h... – NFL practice jersey about to look like Nascar? Bing is one of our new sponsors. #bing #nfl #microsoft For the record— big fan of Bing.com …. And I like Nascar—- and Ricky Bobby.”[/quote]

    Yep, and here it is on the flesh.[/quote]

    All I wanted was a green jersey, but instead all I got was a crummy bing patch. ;o([/quote]

    Hey Mike, any truth to the rumor that this company is in talks to get a patch on the right shoulder?[/quote]

    I actually heard it was more of a Seahawks, Paul Allen inspired, post game celebratory victory cheer; “Drill Baby Drill!!!”

  • Chris R | September 16, 2009 at 4:38 pm |

    Hey Paul:
    Re: • “Love all the quote-marked nicknames in this poster.”
    Mickey Vernon on the Washington “Nationals”. I thought they were known as the Senators back then

  • JohnnyO | September 16, 2009 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”348390″][quote comment=”348386″]Yes it is. They stay in VMC dorm, and Ahman Green stayed in my pad one summer I found out. They bring in their own big screen TV’s, and A/C.[/quote]
    The Bears also have a summer camp at school with a relgious basis: must be wierd for students to see the big screens, etc. come in and go out.[/quote]

    Very weird. Considering I stayed around the Green Bay area during the summer and would see Ahman Green’s “Batmobile” (jazzed up Ford Mustang made to look like the Cape Crusader’s ride). There is kind of a quick turnaround as well. Maybe like two weeks. They do a bang up job cleaning, but in all fairness the players basically just sleep in there. Most of their time is spent at the Hutson Center, or at Lambeau.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”348397″]
    Religous? Yes. Amish? No.

    I know alumni of both schools and as far as I know, they were all familiar with modern technology before they enrolled.[/quote]
    Well, even if they’re familar with them I’m not sure the students in Bourbonais actually have the big screens in their dorm room when the school is in session.

    And they’re a total no-alcohol campus down there in Bourbonais. So I’m giving them a grade of “religous plus”.

    I know people who have graduated from Norbert’s as well as several other religious-based schools around the midwest. FWLIW, their memories of campus life include a lot of stories of “underprivliged” kids who got in without a lot of money: quite frankly I don’t remember nearly as many from my public school.

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”348396″][quote comment=”348389″][quote comment=”348380″]In case people don’t know, St. Norbert College and UW-Green Bay alternate every other week for cheer duties at Lambeau[/quote]
    BTW JohnnyO, do the Packers still have the “Green” and “Gold” ticket packages for the former County Stadium ticket holders?

    Strikes me as a tough year for the former Milwaukee group if they were shut out of both the Bears game and the season opener in one fell swoop last week.[/quote]

    They sure do have the Gold Package. In fact, the game this week is one of those. (My friend’s parents got the gold package season tickets after 30+ years. They had the option to take the gold package, or keep waiting for the full season tickets. They did not hesitate, and took these. They are 56 years old)

    Anyways, the Gold Pkg. got the 1st pre-season game this year (Browns), the Bengals this week, and then the Cowboys on the 15th of November. It is rare to see the gold pkg. not get a divisional rival. 2003 gold pkg. was Detroit and Philly, 2006 was Saints and Pats, 2007 was Chargers and Vikings, and 2008 was Cowboys and Bears. Those were the only magnetic schedules still left on the fridge, so sorry for the absence of ’04 and ’05.[/quote]

    I wonder how many UWers know the Packers used to split their home schedule 50/50 between Green Bay and Milwaukee County Stadium? That policy, and the Packers being publicly owned, are a huge part of why “Green Bay” managed to stay in the NFL and why, in truth, they are Wisconsin team…even if the folks in Green Bay don’t like to hear that. And I’m NOT dissing them, I LOVE that Green Bay is still in the league. It’s one of the great things in sport. It’s like if the Fort Wayne Pistons (one of the GREAT sports names, btw) were still in the NBA. Just saying a market that small couldn’t have sustained an NFL team without a larger market like Milwaukee being part of its fan (and ticket) base all these years.

    And don’t start arguing. You know it’s true. Would have been like trying to keep an NFL franchise in Bismarck. And again, I LOVE that they’ve been able to stay in Green Bay. It’s like history right there in front of us every time we hear the name.

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”348396″]…2008 was Cowboys and Bears. [/quote]
    Now THAT strikes me as a bad year for the Green season ticket package! :-)

    With the Pats, Eagles, etc. mixed in I have to admit the Packers don’t seem like they’re giving the Milwaukee group the shaft.

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”348402″][quote comment=”348397″]
    Religous? Yes. Amish? No.

    I know alumni of both schools and as far as I know, they were all familiar with modern technology before they enrolled.[/quote]
    Well, even if they’re familar with them I’m not sure the students in Bourbonais actually have the big screens in their dorm room when the school is in session.

    And they’re a total no-alcohol campus down there in Bourbonais. So I’m giving them a grade of “religous plus”.

    I know people who have graduated from Norbert’s as well as several other religious-based schools around the midwest. FWLIW, their memories of campus life include a lot of stories of “underprivliged” kids who got in without a lot of money: quite frankly I don’t remember nearly as many from my public school.[/quote]
    Maybe you didn’t know them personally, but they were definitely there. Hell, I can think of at least three kids that lived on my floor during my freshman year who would fit that description.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”348403″]I wonder how many UWers know the Packers used to split their home schedule 50/50 between Green Bay and Milwaukee County Stadium? [/quote]

    Ricko, I know a guy who’s a Packer fan because of those Milwaukee games: he’s the youngest of a group of brothers and one time two older brothers were going up to Milwaukee “for the game” (and because the drinking age in Wisconsin was 18 in those days). Their parents told them they were responsible for their youngest sibling that day: they grudingly took him along and accidently converted the impressionable youngster to being a Packer fan. (We’ve often remarked that it would have been better for him if the drinking had imprinted that day instead of the Packers.)

    BTW: one of the Chicago papers noted the number of Bears/Packers season openers in Green Bay down thru the years and said it was because Halas didn’t want to go to Green Bay when it was cold. Several people pointed out that maybe it was the cold; and maybe it was the fact that Wrigley was unavailable that might have kept the “open the season in Green Bay” tradition alive. :-)

  • JimV19 | September 16, 2009 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”348403″][quote comment=”348396″][quote comment=”348389″][quote comment=”348380″]I wonder how many UWers know the Packers used to split their home schedule 50/50 between Green Bay and Milwaukee County Stadium? That policy, and the Packers being publicly owned, are a huge part of why “Green Bay” managed to stay in the NFL and why, in truth, they are Wisconsin team…even if the folks in Green Bay don’t like to hear that. And I’m NOT dissing them, I LOVE that Green Bay is still in the league. It’s one of the great things in sport. It’s like if the Fort Wayne Pistons (one of the GREAT sports names, btw) were still in the NBA. Just saying a market that small couldn’t have sustained an NFL team without a larger market like Milwaukee being part of its fan (and ticket) base all these years.

    And don’t start arguing. You know it’s true. Would have been like trying to keep an NFL franchise in Bismarck. And again, I LOVE that they’ve been able to stay in Green Bay. It’s like history right there in front of us every time we hear the name.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No arguments from me. The Packers are my 2nd favorite team. I like all the little things that set them apart from the rest of the league. Wish they were the norm instead of the exception.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”348405″]Maybe you didn’t know them personally, but they were definitely there. [/quote]Not saying they weren’t: IMHO, given the relative sizes they were more generously represented at the private, religious-based schools.

    I’m out on this one JTH. Still tired from last night. Not going thru that again.

  • rpm | September 16, 2009 at 5:06 pm |

    re:art project of the revolution
    so i am working on this piece, and i want to involve the readership of UW. but thing is, i don’t want to divulge the details. suffice it to say this, i will be working on this until next july 4th, and it is quite involved. from time to time i am going to post this request, maybe once a month, but if something strikes you, send it to me anytime at rpmarshallart@gmail.com (let’s not muddy up the boards). this might blow up my interwebs, but fuck it. what do i need from you? song titles. what kind of song titles? up to you. any kind of music? yes. is there a theme? no. why should i do this? then don’t. but i do need an a and b side for the artist. for instance, i might say the flying burrito brothers the streets of baltimore & drug store truck driving man, or daniel johnston speeding motorcycle & devil town, whatever. i don’t want 35 suggestions from one person, just one, two if you must, if over time i have a few suggestions from you, that’s fine. okay? okay. let’s see what’chu got.

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”348393″]Just letting anyone in the San Jose area know…. the San Jose Giants (single A) are giving away two free playoff tix to everyone who comes with this page: http://www.sjgiants....

    Hope the game doesn’t go past midnight!

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”348408″][quote comment=”348405″]Maybe you didn’t know them personally, but they were definitely there. [/quote]Not saying they weren’t: IMHO, given the relative sizes they were more generously represented at the private, religious-based schools.

    I’m out on this one JTH. Still tired from last night. Not going thru that again.[/quote]
    Dude, I’m not trying to start shit with you. Trust me, that’s the last thing I want. I just replied smartassedly to one of your comments. You’re the one who tried to prove a point by replying with an essay.

    And really, how many kids, at any school, have big screen TVs in their dorm rooms?

  • rpm | September 16, 2009 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”348409″]re:art project of the revolution
    [/quote]

    shit, did i kill the boards? just pretend you are sending me a 45rpm record of an artist with an a & b side. can be whatever you want. just fucking do it, and don’t try to figure it out, you’ll hurt yourself. you’ll find out about it come july. maybe i will use what i get here, maybe i won’t,let’s see what kind of life i can give the piece. help or don’t it will have legs either way.

  • DenverGregg | September 16, 2009 at 5:43 pm |

    rpm –

    I’m proabably being overanalytical (it’s what I do), but do you want real A&B sides or can we get really odd, like say Buzzcocks doing (a) Boredom and (b) You Light Up My Life?

  • =bg= | September 16, 2009 at 6:07 pm |

    your favorite league logo?

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 6:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”348414″]your favorite league logo?

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

    [quote comment=”348414″]your favorite league logo?

    http://www.cnbc.com/...
    b

    Conspicuously absent: MLS and WNBA

  • rpm | September 16, 2009 at 6:31 pm |

    alright clowns, disregard the song titles, but i do need a 16 inch player for a 7 oclock game at the nicest field in chicago. anyone?

  • rpm | September 16, 2009 at 6:33 pm |

    added bonus…you get to kick dirt on me and call me a f*cknut when i call your dumb ass out.

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 6:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”348416″]alright clowns, disregard the song titles, but i do need a 16 inch player for a 7 oclock game at the nicest field in chicago. anyone?[/quote]

    Hey, I sent a couple.

  • rpm | September 16, 2009 at 6:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”348413″]rpm –

    I’m proabably being overanalytical (it’s what I do), but do you want real A&B sides or can we get really odd, like say Buzzcocks doing (a) Boredom and (b) You Light Up My Life?[/quote]

    they can be actual yes, that would be swell. or they can just be 2 songs by the same artist.

  • rpm | September 16, 2009 at 6:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”348418″][quote comment=”348416″]alright clowns, disregard the song titles, but i do need a 16 inch player for a 7 oclock game at the nicest field in chicago. anyone?[/quote]

    Hey, I sent a couple.[/quote]
    i have gotten zero

  • josh | September 16, 2009 at 7:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”348393″]Just letting anyone in the San Jose area know…. the San Jose Giants (single A) are giving away two free playoff tix to everyone who comes with this page: http://www.sjgiants....

    too bad my hometown bakersfield blaze will be eliminating the giants tonight. by the way, are the current washington nationals still called “senators” by the locals? just wondering.

  • leon | September 16, 2009 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”348258″][quote comment=”348256″][quote]I’d wear that uni.[/quote]

    is there any uni you wouldn’t wear?[/quote]
    For our sakes, I hope these are on that list.[/quote]

    Check out the gloves, Paul.

  • rpm | September 16, 2009 at 7:24 pm |

    no takers on 16″ softball, eh. that’s alright, worth a shot. fyi, the 8 o’clock winner pretty much seals first place in this 21+ week season, and gets a grand, which should be my 9 pound hammer for the night. should be a hell of a game too if you are in the neighborhood of uic. i decided to go cardinal stirrups for the event.

  • Traxel | September 16, 2009 at 7:25 pm |

    How about we take up a collection and get a uniwatch ad on a practice jersey. Maybe RPM’s softball practice jersey.

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 7:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”348420″][quote comment=”348418″][quote comment=”348416″]alright clowns, disregard the song titles, but i do need a 16 inch player for a 7 oclock game at the nicest field in chicago. anyone?[/quote]

    Hey, I sent a couple.[/quote]
    i have gotten zero[/quote]

    Sent them through link here. Maybe doesn’t work.
    Sent them just now through direct email, too.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 7:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”348423″]no takers on 16″ softball, eh. that’s alright, worth a shot. fyi, the 8 o’clock winner pretty much seals first place in this 21+ week season, and gets a grand, which should be my 9 pound hammer for the night. should be a hell of a game too if you are in the neighborhood of uic. i decided to go cardinal stirrups for the event.[/quote]

    Wearing the 70’s home pants, too? :)

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 7:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”348424″]How about we take up a collection and get a uniwatch ad on a practice jersey. Maybe RPM’s softball practice jersey.[/quote]

    Damn straight. Bet we could cobble together at least eight bucks.

  • bartusball | September 16, 2009 at 7:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”348366″][quote comment=”348345″]
    … most notably not Franco hisself.[/quote]
    Those “were” the days my friend.

    Is there anything even roughly akin to Franco’s Italian Army or Gerela’s Gorrillas these days? Or the Hogettes for that matter?

    You get one or two guys dressing the same way (think Oakland) and the Cleveland Dawg Pound guy; but as far as individual fan clubs or seating areas, those seem to be thing of the past.[/quote]

    Franco’s Italian Army sat about 10 rows back of my family’s seats at Three Rivers. Left quite an impression on a 12 year old kid. Never new what a bota was called till years later, but the Army went through more than a few during the course of a game. ;)

  • jesse | September 16, 2009 at 7:30 pm |

    The Nationals are most often refered to as the Nats in the local area. Wish they had been become the Senators again.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 7:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”348428″]
    Franco’s Italian Army sat about 10 rows back of my family’s seats at Three Rivers. Left quite an impression on a 12 year old kid. Never new what a bota was called till years later, but the Army went through more than a few during the course of a game. ;)[/quote]
    A bota: there’s another relic of a bygone era among football attendees. :-)

  • bartusball | September 16, 2009 at 7:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”348430″][quote comment=”348428″]
    Franco’s Italian Army sat about 10 rows back of my family’s seats at Three Rivers. Left quite an impression on a 12 year old kid. Never new what a bota was called till years later, but the Army went through more than a few during the course of a game. ;)[/quote]
    A bota: there’s another relic of a bygone era among football attendees. :-)[/quote]

    As are barnoculars. They were awesome until the security guards started looking out for them!

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 7:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”348429″]The Nationals are most often refered to as the Nats in the local area. Wish they had been become the Senators again.[/quote]
    We get an occasional reference to the “Nasty Nats” from Hawk Harrelson. :-)

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 7:41 pm |

    [quote] i do need a 16 inch player for a 7 oclock game at the nicest field in chicago[/quote]

    that’s a rather personal question, innit?

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 7:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”348431″]As are barnoculars. They were awesome until the security guards started looking out for them![/quote]
    Yeah, security has a different tone these days.

    Take it from someone who’s been booted from Soldier Field. :-)

  • Pedro | September 16, 2009 at 7:42 pm |

    Man, I had no idea what 16″ softball was, I looked it up though and it sounds fun. If I lived in Chicago RPM I would be there, for real, alas stuck in L.A. Anyway I just sent you some music titles.

    Moving on…

    I like the way Colorado made a throwback jersey using modern the modern cut of jersey. Shows that random trim, lines, and piping is not necessary.

  • bartusball | September 16, 2009 at 7:44 pm |

    Wow they still sell barnoculars!

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 7:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”348435″]Man, I had no idea what 16″ softball was, I looked it up though and it sounds fun. [/quote]
    Virtually nobody outside of Chicago and environs has heard of it. :-( Very sad.

    JMHO, but it can be more social than 12-inch. There’s certainly a number of cutthroat leagues in both varieties; but I think this one goes co-ed that much more easily than the 12-inch variety.

    And there’s definitely a long history of factory or company sponsored teams: probably more than a few colorful uni’s out there from the 40’s/50’s/60’s era.

  • anotherguy | September 16, 2009 at 7:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”348436″]Wow they still sell barnoculars![/quote]On that page:

    You may also like…

    …the cell phone flask! :-)))

  • Tall Paul | September 16, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”348409″]re:art project of the revolution
    so i am working on this piece, and i want to involve the readership of UW. but thing is, i don’t want to divulge the details. suffice it to say this, i will be working on this until next july 4th, and it is quite involved. from time to time i am going to post this request, maybe once a month, but if something strikes you, send it to me anytime at rpmarshallart@gmail.com(let’s not muddy up the boards). this might blow up my interwebs, but fuck it. what do i need from you? song titles. what kind of song titles? up to you. any kind of music? yes. is there a theme? no. why should i do this? then don’t. but i do need an a and b side for the artist. for instance, i might say the flying burrito brothers the streets of baltimore & drug store truck driving man, or daniel johnston speeding motorcycle & devil town, whatever. i don’t want 35 suggestions from one person, just one, two if you must, if over time i have a few suggestions from you, that’s fine. okay? okay. let’s see what’chu got.[/quote]

    Mousing over the link shows that the first word after the email address is tied into the link and will likely result in bounced emails for anyone attempting to send something using the link versus typing in the address directly.

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”348439″][quote comment=”348409″]re:art project of the revolution
    so i am working on this piece, and i want to involve the readership of UW. but thing is, i don’t want to divulge the details. suffice it to say this, i will be working on this until next july 4th, and it is quite involved. from time to time i am going to post this request, maybe once a month, but if something strikes you, send it to me anytime at rpmarshallart@gmail.com(let’s not muddy up the boards). this might blow up my interwebs, but fuck it. what do i need from you? song titles. what kind of song titles? up to you. any kind of music? yes. is there a theme? no. why should i do this? then don’t. but i do need an a and b side for the artist. for instance, i might say the flying burrito brothers the streets of baltimore & drug store truck driving man, or daniel johnston speeding motorcycle & devil town, whatever. i don’t want 35 suggestions from one person, just one, two if you must, if over time i have a few suggestions from you, that’s fine. okay? okay. let’s see what’chu got.[/quote]

    Mousing over the link shows that the first word after the email address is tied into the link and will likely result in bounced emails for anyone attempting to send something using the link versus typing in the address directly.[/quote]

    great catch TP…i fixed mr. marshall’s ORIGINAL post so now it should work

    ifn yer too lazy to scroll up there:  send it to him with this linkie [robertmarshallart (at) gmail (dot) com]

  • Tall Paul | September 16, 2009 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”348440″][quote comment=”348439″][quote comment=”348409″]re:art project of the revolution
    so i am working on this piece, and i want to involve the readership of UW. but thing is, i don’t want to divulge the details. suffice it to say this, i will be working on this until next july 4th, and it is quite involved. from time to time i am going to post this request, maybe once a month, but if something strikes you, send it to me anytime at rpmarshallart@gmail.com(let’s not muddy up the boards). this might blow up my interwebs, but fuck it. what do i need from you? song titles. what kind of song titles? up to you. any kind of music? yes. is there a theme? no. why should i do this? then don’t. but i do need an a and b side for the artist. for instance, i might say the flying burrito brothers the streets of baltimore & drug store truck driving man, or daniel johnston speeding motorcycle & devil town, whatever. i don’t want 35 suggestions from one person, just one, two if you must, if over time i have a few suggestions from you, that’s fine. okay? okay. let’s see what’chu got.[/quote]

    Mousing over the link shows that the first word after the email address is tied into the link and will likely result in bounced emails for anyone attempting to send something using the link versus typing in the address directly.[/quote]

    great catch TP…i fixed mr. marshall’s ORIGINAL post so now it should work

    ifn yer too lazy to scroll up there: send it to him with this linkie [robertmarshallart (at) gmail (dot) com][/quote]

    is the linkie (robertmarshallart) different than the original email address link (rpmarshallart) on purpose? Just making sure everything’s correct… Thanks, Phil. You always do outstanding work.

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote]is the linkie (robertmarshallart) different than the original email address link (rpmarshallart) on purpose? Just making sure everything’s correct… Thanks, Phil. You always do outstanding work.[/quote]

    um…no…

    im an idiot…it should be rpmarshallart (at) gmail (dot) com (but the link in my post — now fixed — and his original post should be correct

    if anyone is uncertain, just create a new email and type the addy out, but his original post is now fixed (as is my previous opst)

    thanks for catching that one too, TP

    i owe ya a cold one

  • Tall Paul | September 16, 2009 at 9:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”348443″][quote]is the linkie (robertmarshallart) different than the original email address link (rpmarshallart) on purpose? Just making sure everything’s correct… Thanks, Phil. You always do outstanding work.[/quote]

    um…no…

    im an idiot…it should be rpmarshallart (at) gmail (dot) com (but the link in my post — now fixed — and his original post should be correct

    if anyone is uncertain, just create a new email and type the addy out, but his original post is now fixed (as is my previous opst)

    thanks for catching that one too, TP

    i owe ya a cold one[/quote]

    Shall we shoot for a 6 pack?

    If you mouse over your original linkie in #224, which I think you attempted to correct, it now goes to: http:// www. uniwatch.com / rpmarshall gmail address…which all now goes to an invalid page on the uniwatch web site rather than being a mailto link.

    :-) Seriously, thanks for all you do for the site and for being Paul’s right hand man on here. I smile as I think about how much I struggle with HTML and the tags, etc…and am only laughing at the absurdity of how this has turned into a bad day at the office for you on this one little item. But we love you to death and thank you, again, for all your efforts.

  • LI Phil | September 16, 2009 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote]If you mouse over your original linkie in #224, which I think you attempted to correct, it now goes to: http:// www. uniwatch.com / rpmarshall gmail address…which all now goes to an invalid page on the uniwatch web site rather than being a mailto link.

    :-) Seriously, thanks for all you do for the site and for being Paul’s right hand man on here. I smile as I think about how much I struggle with HTML and the tags, etc…and am only laughing at the absurdity of how this has turned into a bad day at the office for you on this one little item. But we love you to death and thank you, again, for all your efforts.[/quote]

    oh FUCK

    i quit…this is what happens when i try to simultaneously work on the weekend posts AND moderate…i don’t do either very well

    the ORIGINAL robert marhsall post (# 193) IS correct

    anyone reading this (all two of you) and who wants to send roberto your suggestions for 45 rpms…use that link

    …lordy lordy lordy…sorry rpm

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 10:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”348419″][quote comment=”348413″]rpm –

    I’m proabably being overanalytical (it’s what I do), but do you want real A&B sides or can we get really odd, like say Buzzcocks doing (a) Boredom and (b) You Light Up My Life?[/quote]

    they can be actual yes, that would be swell. or they can just be 2 songs by the same artist.[/quote]
    OK, if it is an actual single, does it have to be the same band or can it be a split?

    For example Arcade Fire’s Intervention 7″ with Calexico covering “Ocean of Noise” on the B-Side.

    I don’t even know why I’m asking this considering that you probably won’t even read it until 1 in the morning.

    Oh, and if I had seen your post about needing an extra player earlier in the day, I’d have gotten my glove all shined up real nice for it and helped you out. *wink*

  • Skycat | September 16, 2009 at 10:08 pm |

    Jerseys are now available for the Iraq National Baseball team. Rachel Maddow did a story on this and the link is from her site:

    http://www.ebbets.co...

  • Nicole | September 16, 2009 at 10:39 pm |

    Kind of surprised the Cubs are wearing the royal blue jersey’s for the second straight night. Zambrano was the starter last night, so that makes sense, but tonight it was Rich Haren and they’re sporting the royal blues again.

  • JTH | September 16, 2009 at 10:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”348455″]Kind of surprised the Cubs are wearing the royal blue jersey’s for the second straight night. Zambrano was the starter last night, so that makes sense, but tonight it was Rich Haren and they’re sporting the royal blues again.[/quote]
    Harden likes to wear the alt for home night games.

  • Ricko | September 16, 2009 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”348456″][quote comment=”348455″]Kind of surprised the Cubs are wearing the royal blue jersey’s for the second straight night. Zambrano was the starter last night, so that makes sense, but tonight it was Rich Haren and they’re sporting the royal blues again.[/quote]
    Harden likes to wear the alt for home night games.[/quote]

    Would he be able to pitch if the Cubs didn’t have an alt?

    Just, y’know, wondering. ;)

    —Ricko

  • Nick | September 17, 2009 at 12:07 am |

    [quote comment=”348277″][quote comment=”348274″][quote comment=”348246″]DenverGregg, Would you or any other Buffalo fan know if the colors are correct in this football figure? I saved as many pictures as I could of this guys figures before he quit selling them.

    He has this guy as 1941 Colorado. I was thinking of trying to colorize the Byron Whizzer White Colorado picture I posted in #19

    Here is the figure. Is it accurate?

    http://img.photobuck...
    Sorry to say I don’t know. That’s a little before my time.[/quote]

    I spent a lot of years trying to determine uni colors from only b&w sources. And, yes, metallic gold almost always photographs darker than silver. That said, that Whizzer White photo is a certified bitch…because not only are we trying to determine what’s silver or gold, we also have deal with satin and matte finish fabrics, which can lead us WAY off in wrong directions.

    Odds are, it’s pretty basic. But the “hodgepodge” possibilities are numerous, with some of them quite ghastly. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Bottom Line : The Mustard Gold was darker, and the “Silver” on the Uni was likely more of a darker, duller Gray. As to the helmet, I have no clue.

    I had a Colorado Buff Jersey and Pants combo purchased on EBAY for $200.00 7-8 years ago, from the Whizzer White era, that was worn either just before or just after the uni featured here. I verified the style as I saw a Whizzer White pictured in that same uni playing for the Buffs in other photos.

    The jersey had no “Friction Strips”, but was a Mustard Gold jersey (similar Gold to this 2009 Throwback, but a lot darker in color, but not quite a true Old Gold), with smallish Black felt numerals (#12) with no trim, with a Battleship Gray stripe running down the side of each long sleeve, from the collar to the end of the sleeve. The jersey was a very strong, wool material similar to a thick modern Rugby jersey material, with the Gray stripe a looser knitted wool. It had a Colorado Sporting goods store tag, and I forget if it had a manufacterer tag.

    The pants were a Dark Khaki/Gold, a bit darker than the jersey, made in a very strong, very thin gaberdine canvas, with full dark brown leather pads covering both knees, and with the same wool knit Battleship Gray stripes (from the jersey) running down the back of each leg. The pants had a national company manufactering tag, if you told me I would remember – the manufacterer that had sort of a circular logo with info printed in the circle.

    Unfortunately, Hurricane Katrina did to it what 70 years of hoarding and trading of hands and wear could not do, and I was never able to recover it from the wreckage of my house, as it was in a Chest of Drawers buried under mounds of furniture after standing in the Katrina funk water for two-plus weeks. I couldn’t get to it.

    I will say this, the knit wool material of that jersey, even after 70 years, was strong enough to tie to a trailer and tow with. It was dense and strong unlike even the better rugby material sold today.

  • LarryB | September 17, 2009 at 12:53 am |

    [quote comment=”348458″][quote comment=”348277″][quote comment=”348274″][quote comment=”348246″]DenverGregg, Would you or any other Buffalo fan know if the colors are correct in this football figure? I saved as many pictures as I could of this guys figures before he quit selling them.

    He has this guy as 1941 Colorado. I was thinking of trying to colorize the Byron Whizzer White Colorado picture I posted in #19

    Here is the figure. Is it accurate?

    http://img.photobuck...
    Sorry to say I don’t know. That’s a little before my time.[/quote]

    I spent a lot of years trying to determine uni colors from only b&w sources. And, yes, metallic gold almost always photographs darker than silver. That said, that Whizzer White photo is a certified bitch…because not only are we trying to determine what’s silver or gold, we also have deal with satin and matte finish fabrics, which can lead us WAY off in wrong directions.

    Odds are, it’s pretty basic. But the “hodgepodge” possibilities are numerous, with some of them quite ghastly. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Bottom Line : The Mustard Gold was darker, and the “Silver” on the Uni was likely more of a darker, duller Gray. As to the helmet, I have no clue.

    I had a Colorado Buff Jersey and Pants combo purchased on EBAY for $200.00 7-8 years ago, from the Whizzer White era, that was worn either just before or just after the uni featured here. I verified the style as I saw a Whizzer White pictured in that same uni playing for the Buffs in other photos.

    The jersey had no “Friction Strips”, but was a Mustard Gold jersey (similar Gold to this 2009 Throwback, but a lot darker in color, but not quite a true Old Gold), with smallish Black felt numerals (#12) with no trim, with a Battleship Gray stripe running down the side of each long sleeve, from the collar to the end of the sleeve. The jersey was a very strong, wool material similar to a thick modern Rugby jersey material, with the Gray stripe a looser knitted wool. It had a Colorado Sporting goods store tag, and I forget if it had a manufacterer tag.

    The pants were a Dark Khaki/Gold, a bit darker than the jersey, made in a very strong, very thin gaberdine canvas, with full dark brown leather pads covering both knees, and with the same wool knit Battleship Gray stripes (from the jersey) running down the back of each leg. The pants had a national company manufactering tag, if you told me I would remember – the manufacterer that had sort of a circular logo with info printed in the circle.

    Unfortunately, Hurricane Katrina did to it what 70 years of hoarding and trading of hands and wear could not do, and I was never able to recover it from the wreckage of my house, as it was in a Chest of Drawers buried under mounds of furniture after standing in the Katrina funk water for two-plus weeks. I couldn’t get to it.

    I will say this, the knit wool material of that jersey, even after 70 years, was strong enough to tie to a trailer and tow with. It was dense and strong unlike even the better rugby material sold today.[/quote]

    Nick, Glad I checked this at this time.I remember you told me you had that jersey.

    Thanks for the post.

  • rpm | September 17, 2009 at 1:27 am |

    [quote comment=”348433″][quote] i do need a 16 inch player for a 7 oclock game at the nicest field in chicago[/quote]

    that’s a rather personal question, innit?[/quote]

    ha! needless to say the thousand dollar game was intense.

  • rpm | September 17, 2009 at 1:34 am |

    [quote comment=”348453″][quote comment=”348419″][quote comment=”348413″]rpm –

    I’m proabably being overanalytical (it’s what I do), but do you want real A&B sides or can we get really odd, like say Buzzcocks doing (a) Boredom and (b) You Light Up My Life?[/quote]

    they can be actual yes, that would be swell. or they can just be 2 songs by the same artist.[/quote]
    OK, if it is an actual single, does it have to be the same band or can it be a split?

    For example Arcade Fire’s Intervention 7″ with Calexico covering “Ocean of Noise” on the B-Side.

    I don’t even know why I’m asking this considering that you probably won’t even read it until 1 in the morning.

    Oh, and if I had seen your post about needing an extra player earlier in the day, I’d have gotten my glove all shined up real nice for it and helped you out. *wink*[/quote]

    i am the only one up since i have 5 hours of stats from the softball league to work on, but…
    same artist only.

    there ain’t no gloves in 16″, can’t even use a batting glove in the field. the league i ump on tuesdays and wednesdays are as hardcore as they get. as a native batimoron, at first i thought 16″ was kind of stupid, but the more i see it, it is as hardcore as it gets.

  • KB | September 17, 2009 at 4:14 am |

    Question on the Seahawks’ practice jerseys:

    I noticed in the photos of the red jersey and the white jersey that the NFL logo on the neck seems to be “blacked out.” (okay, in the spirit of all the recent stadium dress-up days, it appeared “redded” and “whited” out)

    Does the NFL have an official “search engine,” such as Google or Yahoo!? Is this why the NFL logo is minimized?

  • KB | September 17, 2009 at 4:21 am |

    Here are some photos of training camp where the NFL logo is very visible on the Hawks’ jerseys:

    (note: never tried this before, sorry if it gets ugly)

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  • KB | September 17, 2009 at 4:29 am |

    Obviously my linking is like my love-making. That is to say it happens rarely and with miserable results.

    For my third post, I would like to mention that the NFL logo has clearly been “redded,” “whited” and, yes, even “blued” out from all the Seahawks’ practice jerseys.

    This can’t be am coincidence.

  • BurghFan | September 17, 2009 at 4:58 am |

    Franco, you will always be a Seahawk to me. (looking up at the sky with a tear in my eye)

    Does that make you a bandwagon Franco fan? ;)

  • JTH | September 17, 2009 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”348461″]there ain’t no gloves in 16″[/quote]
    I guess you missed the meaning of that *wink* that I put in there.

  • JTH | September 17, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”348457″][quote comment=”348456″][quote comment=”348455″]Kind of surprised the Cubs are wearing the royal blue jersey’s for the second straight night. Zambrano was the starter last night, so that makes sense, but tonight it was Rich Haren and they’re sporting the royal blues again.[/quote]
    Harden likes to wear the alt for home night games.[/quote]

    Would he be able to pitch if the Cubs didn’t have an alt?

    Just, y’know, wondering. ;)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Who says he can pitch with it?