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Uni Watch DIY Project: Purple Mountains’ Majesty

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[Editor’s Note: A year ago, Chris Markham showed everyone how to make a helmet cup holder. Today he’s back with his latest DIY project.]

By Chris Markham

Here in Rochester, we don’t really have a hometown MLB team root for. While most people generally root for the Yankees or Mets, we’re actually situated much closer to the Blue Jays, Indians, and Pirates. So while growing up in the early 1990s, I had my football and hockey teams — the Bills and Sabres — but I didn’t a baseball team. Then came the 1993 expansion Rockies and Marlins. Long story short, I ended up picking the Rockies.

Fast forward to today: After 15 years of watching baseball, I have discovered that I enjoy the distinctive elements of a team’s scoreboard. The arches at Yankee Stadium, the NYC skyline at Shea, the pinwheels at Comi-, uh Cellular Field, the Royals’ crown, the prowling tigers at Comerica Park, the birds in St. Louis, etc.

But since I’m a Rockies fan, my favorite is the mountains at Coors Field. I’ve always liked the mountain logo separated from the arch. I don’t know why they don’t use that in more places. Plus the baseball is also a clock — clever. Anyway, one day I decided I was going to make a replica of it for my “man cave” basement.

First, I imported the Rockies logo into Illustrator and started from there. I removed the Colorado arch, arched the Rockies text and recolored it. I picked up two 30″ x 20″, 1/2″-thick pieces of poster board (seemed like the easiest and cheapest option) and the necessary paints. Then I used Illustrator to size the mountains at 28″ x 14″ and set it to an X,Y coordinate of 0,0. This made it possible for me to get the X,Y coordinates of each line, map it on the poster board, play connect the dots, and cut out the finished shape.

For the letters, I printed out an outline of each letterform, traced it onto the other piece of poster board, and cut out each letter individually.

Since the mountains are the biggest part of this project, I put painter’s tape over all of the parts that are not purple and used a small paint roller to paint over the entire mountain range. After removing the tape, I had to accurately get the stitching of the ball on the mountain, I printed out a to-scale outline of the ball, cut out the stitching on the piece of paper, and traced it on the poster board. Then I painted the rest of the mountain and letters.

Last but not least, the clock. I went out to my local Wal*Mart and picked up some cheap clock for $4. I took off the face of clock and was left with the battery pack and hands. In Illustrator, I found the exact center of the ball was made a hole all the way through the poster board. I then traced around the battery pack, dug a hole in the poster board, and dropped the clock in.

So here is the finished product (plus a side view). It wasn’t very expensive to create and it makes a great addition to my room. Maybe my next project will be getting it to light up.

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Paul here. Pretty cool stuff, right? And as long as we’re talking DIY, James Huening reports that he took a cheap Chisox replica jersey and turned it into a 1950s/’60s version (“complete with yellowed fabric aging effect,” he notes), plus he turned some gym shorts into Bears pants. “These are more ‘entry-level’ or ‘remedial’ than some of the masterpieces you’ve featured in the past,” he says, “but I’m pretty proud of them, especially since I have virtually zero artistic talent.” Lots of additional photos here.

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Why yes, I am a bit cranky today, why do you ask?: Major e-mail problems here at Uni Watch HQ. I’ll spare you the details and just say this: (a) If you happen to see an Earthlink executive walking by, please apprehend him as violently as possible and then give me a call. (b) If you’ve sent me some good material within the past 36 hours and haven’t seen it in the Ticker, it’s not because I’m ignoring you. Probably. And (c) Until further notice, please use this address for all Uni Watch communiqués: beerframeguy@yahoo.com.

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Uni Watch Stirrup Club Update: Comrade Robert Marshall has returned from the front lines of the hosiery wars with a stirring report. I hereby surrender the floor to him and urge you to pay close heed to his words:

Fearless leader preaches the gospel of toeless hosiery in the daily Watcher, and I believe we, as cadre in colouful strype, have furthered the cause on ball fields throughout the land. Let us continue with four new choices to further the tapestry of the movement.

Now the bad news. Unfortunately, I not only have the writing style of a lunatic but the fiscal sense of an artist. The short version: I have lost a dollar-plus per pair for the last couple hundred pair. Please do not try to make anything up to me — the people who will want to do that are exactly the type of people to whom I am happy to say this: It was a necessary evil within the revolution, so let us continue to look forward in this fight. From each according to his styrrup, to each according to his strype.

However, the directions/prices for ordering have changed slightly — please check out the new procedures here.

I’m going to overrule Robert on his “Don’t bother to throw in a few extra bucks” admonition. In other words, please do throw in a few extra bucks for him. His envelope-stuffing and post office-schlepping alone are worth it, to say nothing of his hot new teevee commercial.

Last chance to make me proud: Couldn’t believe nobody responded to this on Wednesday, and I figure you can’t all be Dave Matthews fans, so let’s try this again: One of history’s most entertainingly sociopathic bands is playing at Southpaw tomorrow night, and I have two extra tickets that I’d be happy to sell at a discount. Remember, my regular e-mail’s all messed up, so use this address if you’re interested in the tix.

Uni Watch News Ticker: You may have noticed that Oregon’s offense and defense trotted onto the field last week in uni-numerical order (and yes, they have multiple players with the same number, but that’s nothing new). What’s more interesting is that they also went in numerical order when leaving the field after the first half (as spotted and photographed by Mike Kingery). … Holy NASCAR — literally (with thanks to Ryan Connelly). … The Dolphins have signed up for Club Douchebag. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Yesterday’s Ticker mention of Shoelace Robinson, who never ties his cleats, reminded Graham Bakay of former NHL linesman Ray Scapinello, who often didn’t tie his skates. Bizarre. … So here’s the latest design revision of that stupid-ass basketball arena they’re trying to build down the road from my house. Nice to see that the architects are taking inspiration from such highbrow sources. … Exactly one entertaining thing has happened at Shea all season long, but what’s even more entertaining is the guy’s “punishment”: He’s banned from the stadium for a year. Doesn’t this seem more like a gift than a sanction? … Some examples of logo creep are even stupider than others (thanks, Kirsten). … Kyle Hinstorff notes that Georgia Stech’s single-digit TV numbers are off-center, almost as if they were two-digit numbers with the first numeral removed. … I collect salesman sample catalogs and love neon signage, so it’d be nice if one of y’all could get me this for Xmas (Kirsten already did her part by bringing it to my attention). … Neckwear note from Matthew Porges, who points out that Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth’s neckties matched the Titans’ and Steelers’ team colors, respectively, last night. … Here’s a great little item: When the Falcons wear their throwbacks on September 20th, they’ll also have a throwback ticket design. That news comes from Todd Vaught, who came up with the idea and whose design firm, Sky Design, executed it. “The tickets will show the old uniforms, explain the reason for the gold stripe on the helmet, etc.,” he writes. “We’re doing it die-cut with scalloped corners like old-school tickets. They’re being printed now.” … Florida A&M has some seriously weird pants. … The mighty Fleer Sticker Project has a great post about the cloth MLB team logo patches that were packaged in boxes of Sugar Crisp in 1955. Details here.

 

251 comments to Uni Watch DIY Project: Purple Mountains’ Majesty

  • Portland Joe | September 11, 2009 at 8:24 am |

    Portland logo being 5 0n 5 was cool to learn yesterday.

    Thanks

  • Portland Joe | September 11, 2009 at 8:31 am |

    I can’t look at the Rockies logo without thinking this…

    http://www.beertees....

    Especially with Coors as such a major sponsor, it just seems lame.

  • Eric Sing | September 11, 2009 at 8:44 am |

    It looks to me that the only Duck out of order leaving the field is #9 Lagarrette Blount (between #22 and #23). A sign of trouble to come?

  • Eric Sing | September 11, 2009 at 8:47 am |

    NASCAR Jesus is no suprise, Jesus loves NASCAR!

    http://www.racingfor...

  • mmwatkin | September 11, 2009 at 8:51 am |

    What is wrong with Dave Matthews?

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 8:52 am |

    great job chris!

    (also, JTH)

    i need a DIY hobby

  • Portland Joe | September 11, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    [quote comment=”347076″]It looks to me that the only Duck out of order leaving the field is #9 Lagarrette Blount (between #22 and #23). A sign of trouble to come?[/quote]

    Good eye! I missed that. I just wish the team had that much discipline while playing the game! Tough to be a duck this week. But, I still wore my Oregon cap. One bad apple plucked from the tree… (blah b… b…)

    I can’t wait to see if they do this at home tomorrow night.

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 8:56 am |

    Nice clock, Chris. Just one question:
    Is it set for Mountain Time?

  • Chris M | September 11, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    [quote comment=”347081″]Nice clock, Chris. Just one question:
    Is it set for Mountain Time?[/quote]

    Haha, good one!

  • Portland Joe | September 11, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    [quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

    Only that ESPN is going to make college football fans listen to them all season long. Nothing against DMB, but there’s nothing there to excite me for football. I WANNA ROCK!

    They should come up with a bitchin’ theme song and stick with it. Hey, it worked for MNF.

    BTW…
    Is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed with ESPN? Used to love it, now it’s like, “ughh I have to watch it on ESPN”?!

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    [quote comment=”347083″][quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

    Only that ESPN is going to make college football fans listen to them all season long. Nothing against DMB, but there’s nothing there to excite me for football. I WANNA ROCK!

    They should come up with a bitchin’ theme song and stick with it. Hey, it worked for MNF.

    BTW…
    Is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed with ESPN? Used to love it, now it’s like, “ughh I have to watch it on ESPN”?![/quote]

    Not much could be worse than that pregame crapola troweled out by NBC last nite. Thank God there was GaTech/Clemson to toggle to (on ESPN: sorry,Joe).

  • Dane | September 11, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    Brooks Orpik of the Pittsburgh Penguins had to give up his number… for an hour or two.

    http://community.pos...
    http://community.pos...

  • Dane | September 11, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    The Hockey News “Jersey Tournament” is in progress:

    http://www.thehockey...

    (Why not “Sweater Tournament”?)

  • Hank | September 11, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    Ducks-in-a-Row brings to mind an old NFL Films coaches hightlight piece with Richie Kotite yelling at the Eagles on the sideline ‘low to the high, low to the high’ before the National Anthem was played.

  • Brad | September 11, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    Anybody notice that on that Falcons game ticket the QB (Bartkowski?) has his chin strap un-snapped?

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”347085″]Brooks Orpik of the Pittsburgh Penguins had to give up his number… for an hour or two.

    http://community.pos...
    http://community.pos...

    For some reason, I’m reminded of the Crimson Tide.

  • M.Princip | September 11, 2009 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

    Good question, I’m thinking he’s got some form of mental dysentery?

    Paul, I would surely join you for the Samoans gig, alas, not in the Brooklyn area. On a similar note, anyone see this Bad Brains documentary?

  • Portland Joe | September 11, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”347084″][quote comment=”347083″][quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

    Only that ESPN is going to make college football fans listen to them all season long. Nothing against DMB, but there’s nothing there to excite me for football. I WANNA ROCK!

    They should come up with a bitchin’ theme song and stick with it. Hey, it worked for MNF.

    BTW…
    Is anyone else getting increasingly annoyed with ESPN? Used to love it, now it’s like, “ughh I have to watch it on ESPN”?![/quote]

    Not much could be worse than that pregame crapola troweled out by NBC last nite. Thank God there was GaTech/Clemson to toggle to (on ESPN: sorry,Joe).[/quote]

    NFL is a whole different animal.

    I just want to see 22 people lined up equally on opposite sides of a football, and go. I don’t need all of the extra garbage and analysis. The boobs in the booth just go on and on about nothing.
    I like when they point out plays and schemes. And show a bit of personality. I really miss Keith Jackson. He was great.
    …now I’m rambling.

  • Peter | September 11, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

    Maybe Paul was on the Chicago River one day checking out signage and…

  • ATLShaun | September 11, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    Guess the game from the scoreboard people should have a field day with that post!

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”347087″]Ducks-in-a-Row brings to mind an old NFL Films coaches hightlight piece with Richie Kotite yelling at the Eagles on the sideline ‘low to the high, low to the high’ before the National Anthem was played.[/quote]

    Under Bud Grant, every year the Vikings spent one entire early training camp session devoted to “how we stand for the national anthem”. Helmet on left hip, feet pointed a certain angle, stand along this line, spaced just so far from the player on either side of you, etc. Meticulous planning. And the players did it that way, perfectly, every single time the anthem was played, without being told. Because that’s what you did if you were a Minnesota Viking. Period.

    —Ricko

  • Chris in Nashville | September 11, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    The Nashville Sounds have a pretty unique scoreboard as well. http://farm1.static....

  • Hank | September 11, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”347094″][quote comment=”347087″]Ducks-in-a-Row brings to mind an old NFL Films coaches hightlight piece with Richie Kotite yelling at the Eagles on the sideline ‘low to the high, low to the high’ before the National Anthem was played.[/quote]

    Under Bud Grant, every year the Vikings spent one entire early training camp session devoted to “how we stand for the national anthem”. Helmet on left hip, feet pointed a certain angle, stand along this line, spaced just so far from the player on either side of you, etc. Meticulous planning. And the players did it that way, perfectly, every single time the anthem was played, without being told. Because that’s what you did if you were a Minnesota Viking. Period.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    And that’s where any comparision between Grant and Kotite begins and ends.

  • Peter | September 11, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    NO!! NO!! NO!! KOTITE!! FLASHBACKS to 95 & 96!!! NO!!! THOSE NIGHTMARES WENT AWAY….AND YOU BRING THEM BACK WITH THE MENTION OF HIS NAME!!

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    It looks to me that the only Duck out of order leaving the field is #9 Lagarrette Blount (between #22 and #23).

    Guess that won’t happen again this season.

  • PhillyDude | September 11, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Kyle Hinstorff notes that Georgia Stech’s single-digit TV numbers are off-center, almost as if they were two-digit numbers with the first numeral removed. …

    The Philadelphia Eagles have been doing this for years now.
    http://www.meigray.c...

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”347096″][quote comment=”347094″][quote comment=”347087″]Ducks-in-a-Row brings to mind an old NFL Films coaches hightlight piece with Richie Kotite yelling at the Eagles on the sideline ‘low to the high, low to the high’ before the National Anthem was played.[/quote]

    Under Bud Grant, every year the Vikings spent one entire early training camp session devoted to “how we stand for the national anthem”. Helmet on left hip, feet pointed a certain angle, stand along this line, spaced just so far from the player on either side of you, etc. Meticulous planning. And the players did it that way, perfectly, every single time the anthem was played, without being told. Because that’s what you did if you were a Minnesota Viking. Period.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    And that’s where any comparision between Grant and Kotite begins and ends.[/quote]

    Does say something about “preparation” and “organization” (or lack thereof), doesn’t it.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    I bet Powers knows where Kotite played college ball.

  • bourbon soaked idiot | September 11, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    The “Ratner” Arena will never be built. The most likely senario is that he will end up selling the Nets and the will play in “The Rock” in Newark. Which BTW is a much nicer arena than any of the designs Ratner has unveiled.

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”347082″][quote comment=”347081″]Nice clock, Chris. Just one question:
    Is it set for Mountain Time?[/quote]

    Haha, good one![/quote]

    Chris, don’t know if I ever praised you for your amazing helmet idea last year. I immediately went out and created a throwback cowboys one for myself. Great work and keep it up!

  • bourbon soaked idiot | September 11, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”347086″]The Hockey News “Jersey Tournament” is in progress:

    http://www.thehockey...

    (Why not “Sweater Tournament”?)[/quote]

    Quad City Mallards are getting a lot of support. NICE!! Those sweaters are great.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”347102″]The “Ratner” Arena will never be built. The most likely senario is that he will end up selling the Nets and the will play in “The Rock” in Newark. Which BTW is a much nicer arena than any of the designs Ratner has unveiled.[/quote]

    The Newark Nets?
    Wow, talk about a throwback, takes me back to the days of the Rochester Royals and Fort Wayne Pistons.

    Not dissing Newark. Think it’s actually quite cool.

    (Oh, I know they likely wouldn’t call themselves “Newark”; I just liked the vintage sound of it).

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”347093″]Guess the game from the scoreboard people should have a field day with that post![/quote]

    heh…had the same thoughts while reading today’s article

  • Dave | September 11, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    Ugh, it’s a shame how awful those Georgia Tech uniforms are. they’ve really screwed that one up. And now that Clem(p)son has normal pants striping, it’s a joke to see how they clash with the piping on their jerseys. These teams have done it much better before and last night could have been such an aesthetically pleasing experience (even with the all-purple, I say).

  • Chris M | September 11, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”347103″][quote comment=”347082″][quote comment=”347081″]Nice clock, Chris. Just one question:
    Is it set for Mountain Time?[/quote]

    Haha, good one![/quote]

    Chris, don’t know if I ever praised you for your amazing helmet idea last year. I immediately went out and created a throwback cowboys one for myself. Great work and keep it up![/quote]

    That’s awesome! Do you have any pictures of it? I’d like to see how it turned out!

  • Robert Eden (formerly Robert in Dallas) | September 11, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    re: ESPN

    It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”347108″][quote comment=”347103″][quote comment=”347082″][quote comment=”347081″]Nice clock, Chris. Just one question:
    Is it set for Mountain Time?[/quote]

    Haha, good one![/quote]

    Chris, don’t know if I ever praised you for your amazing helmet idea last year. I immediately went out and created a throwback cowboys one for myself. Great work and keep it up![/quote]

    That’s awesome! Do you have any pictures of it? I’d like to see how it turned out![/quote]

    Yeah I have pictures of part of the creation, I was taking step by step pictures and then got way into it and next I knew it was done. I also have pictures from the Cowboys @ Cardinals game last october, before security politely asked me to take it off.

    I’ll try to figure out where the are at on my computer and get them flickrized after I get home tonight.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

    Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

    Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko

  • Peter | September 11, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    re: ESPN

    The “ME” network…or, How we only tell the stories we want and never want to ask real questions & forget that there are markets that may actually NOT INTERESTED in New York Yankees / Boston Red Sox…

    When SNY came around, I was so happy…

  • Wally1912 | September 11, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    We may have a sneak peek at the Boston Bruins’ Winter Classic jersey. This was making the rounds at HFBoards, Icethetics, and Chris Cramer’s site last night.

    http://farm3.static....

    It is a screen grab from this video about Tim Thomas and his recent NHL media tour.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

    Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

    Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Or, design logos for any of ’em.

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”347079″]great job chris!

    (also, JTH)

    i need a DIY hobby[/quote]
    (Thanks.)

    Now I just need to know what color pants the Bears are wearing with the white jerseys this year. Y’know, so I’m dressed appropriately at Lambeau this Sunday.

    They went blue in the preseason, but last year they did that and went white for the real games.

    Such a predicament. I mean, c’mon, if I wear the blue and they white, I’ll look like some kind of rube.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    Oh, this is TOO good…

    re: Tonawanda Kardex.
    “They played their games in Tonawanda, New York, a suburb of Buffalo. The team is most notable for their ONE GAME as a member of the National Football League, the shortest lived team in the league’s history.”

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

    and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with lumbermen

  • chance michaels | September 11, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

    Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

    Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Amen, brother. With all that material, it should’ve been excellent.

    Can’t believe that was the hill Clooney wanted to die on. If you’re going to pull out of the Guild over a credit dispute, shouldn’t it be because they wouldn’t let you put your name on a good script?

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

    and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with lumbermen[/quote]
    How’s this?

  • steve | September 11, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    Funny Adrian Beltre story to go with the “cup” entry from yesterday.

    “Adrian Beltre stepping to the plate with the “Nutcracker” music playing over the loudspeakers. Ken Griffey Jr. strikes again …”

    http://blog.seattlep...

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    I know one thing. If I ever decide to get into fantasy football, we’re gonna be the “Tonawanda Kardex Lumbermen”.

  • RS Rogers | September 11, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    Love the scoreboard, Chris. Makes me wish the Nats had a similarly distinctive scoreboard that could fit on a wall in miniature. But your excellent Rockies DIY has me thinking of applying your how-to to just the curly-W clock portion of the Nats scoreboard. I have some clock-sized empty wall space in my den — I’m old school, so I don’t have a man-cave, I have a den — between Penxa paintings of Johnson and Gibson.

    Also, it can be stipulated that Bud Grant was a god. And a really sweet guy, at least to children; after he retired, he used to come to my elementary school in Eden Prairie to pick up his granddaughter once a week or so, and not many adults were ever friendlier to little children than Coach Grant. Not so sweet to the men he coached; some of the black players used to joke about Coach Grant trying to turn them white with his long outdoor practices in the Minnesota winter.

  • bourbon soaked idiot | September 11, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”347105″][quote comment=”347102″]The “Ratner” Arena will never be built. The most likely senario is that he will end up selling the Nets and the will play in “The Rock” in Newark. Which BTW is a much nicer arena than any of the designs Ratner has unveiled.[/quote]

    The Newark Nets?
    Wow, talk about a throwback, takes me back to the days of the Rochester Royals and Fort Wayne Pistons.

    Not dissing Newark. Think it’s actually quite cool.

    (Oh, I know they likely wouldn’t call themselves “Newark”; I just liked the vintage sound of it).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Since the Devils play there and go with New Jersey, I doubt the Nets would change. If they were to change, the Newark Mules named after the old ABL franchise would be a much better name.

    http://en.wikipedia....(1925-1955)

  • chance michaels | September 11, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

    and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with lumbermen[/quote]
    How’s this?[/quote]
    It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    Tonawanda Kardex

    As an opponent of most “singular” nicknames, I wish they had gone by “Kardices” or, at least “Ecru Kardex”.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    For the shoe freaks among us (Powers and others), note Randy Johnson’s cleats in th photo of the Falcon ticket.
    They’re K-SWISS, from their brief foray into the cleated shoe market in the early to mid-60’s.
    He has them taped, which covers some of the stripes, but that’s the clearest photo I’ve seen of them.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • chance michaels | September 11, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    Chris, very cool work.

    I love the “Rockies” script from the scoreboard.
    So now the Rockies have two great wordmarks – the scoreboard and the vertically arched team magazine logo – that would look better than the radially arched jersey wordmarks.

  • DenverGregg | September 11, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    Outstanding DIY project today!

    I always wondered (well, since ’95) why the Rox used that particular text arch on the scoreboard since they don’t use it on jerseys, jackets and the like. Only sometimes on things like media guides.

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”347124″][quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

    and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with lumbermen[/quote]
    How’s this?[/quote]
    It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.[/quote]
    Well, it’s on the Wikipedia entry so there’s no doubt used.

  • Squiddie | September 11, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    Another thing about Bud Grant is he questioned why the networks would regularly cut away from the national anthem for a commercial break.

    I’m sure the NFL and networks loved him for that.

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 10:53 am |

    Dang.

    *no doubt IT WAS used*

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”347115″][quote comment=”347079″]great job chris!

    (also, JTH)

    i need a DIY hobby[/quote]
    (Thanks.)

    Now I just need to know what color pants the Bears are wearing with the white jerseys this year. Y’know, so I’m dressed appropriately at Lambeau this Sunday.

    They went blue in the preseason, but last year they did that and went white for the real games.

    Such a predicament. I mean, c’mon, if I wear the blue and they white, I’ll look like some kind of rube.[/quote]

    A wearing my Blue ‘Boys jersey at work today because and only because Tampa is going to wear white at home Sunday. i know how you feel.

    /toungue-in-cheek but only kind of.

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”347130″]Another thing about Bud Grant is he questioned why the networks would regularly cut away from the national anthem for a commercial break.

    I’m sure the NFL and networks loved him for that.[/quote]

    harry peter grant=good

  • skott daltonic | September 11, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    a. those Atlanta Falcons throwbacks are pretty much THE perfect football uniform, in my opinion.

    b. i like those Bruins’ uni’s. if they use them i’d be okay with it.

    c. this might be the best NFL season since the merger for uniforms.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”347129″][quote comment=”347124″][quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

    and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with lumbermen[/quote]
    How’s this?[/quote]
    It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.[/quote]
    Well, it’s on the Wikipedia entry so there’s no doubt used.[/quote]

    Wikipedia has entries for all four of the “One & Done in ’21” teams, including their supposed colors.
    My favorite?
    “New York Brickley’s Giants”…Black, Orange, Old Gold & Cream.
    Sounds like in 2009 they’d look a little like either the Detroit Wheels (WFL) or Las Vegas Outlaws (XFL).

  • Greenie | September 11, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”347115″][quote comment=”347079″]great job chris!

    (also, JTH)

    i need a DIY hobby[/quote]
    (Thanks.)

    Now I just need to know what color pants the Bears are wearing with the white jerseys this year. Y’know, so I’m dressed appropriately at Lambeau this Sunday.

    They went blue in the preseason, but last year they did that and went white for the real games.

    Such a predicament. I mean, c’mon, if I wear the blue and they white, I’ll look like some kind of rube.[/quote]

    You may look like a rube anyway, you know, dressed like that in Lambeau. And I really shouldn’t say that anyway, being a Packers fan that owns a Bears jersey (swear I found it at a rummage sale and appreciate it for the aesthetic value). Always did like the GSH shout out to Halas on the sleeve though, and wondered if the Pack would benefit from an ECL on the sleeve for Earl “Curly” Lambeau.

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”347133″][quote comment=”347130″]Another thing about Bud Grant is he questioned why the networks would regularly cut away from the national anthem for a commercial break.

    I’m sure the NFL and networks loved him for that.[/quote]

    harry peter grant=good[/quote]

    Jame and Lily always seemed to pop out good kids.

  • Zak | September 11, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    Paul, I think the current term for that POS Ratner wants to build is ‘Darth Arena’. YMMV, of course.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    Any truth rumor that Harry’s grandfather was an American named “Sherman T.”? Was in Korea, I think.

  • bill | September 11, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

    It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

    I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….

  • Chris M | September 11, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”347122″]Love the scoreboard, Chris. Makes me wish the Nats had a similarly distinctive scoreboard that could fit on a wall in miniature. But your excellent Rockies DIY has me thinking of applying your how-to to just the curly-W clock portion of the Nats scoreboard. I have some clock-sized empty wall space in my den — I’m old school, so I don’t have a man-cave, I have a den — between Penxa paintings of Johnson and Gibson.[/quote]

    Yeah, their W-script clock would work just as well I think!

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”347139″]Any truth rumor that Harry’s grandfather was an American named “Sherman T.”? Was in Korea, I think.[/quote]

    Come to think of it, didn’t he mention having an uncle walter at one point?

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”347136″][quote comment=”347115″][quote comment=”347079″]great job chris!

    (also, JTH)

    i need a DIY hobby[/quote]
    (Thanks.)

    Now I just need to know what color pants the Bears are wearing with the white jerseys this year. Y’know, so I’m dressed appropriately at Lambeau this Sunday.

    They went blue in the preseason, but last year they did that and went white for the real games.

    Such a predicament. I mean, c’mon, if I wear the blue and they white, I’ll look like some kind of rube.[/quote]

    You may look like a rube anyway, you know, dressed like that in Lambeau. And I really shouldn’t say that anyway, being a Packers fan that owns a Bears jersey (swear I found it at a rummage sale and appreciate it for the aesthetic value). Always did like the GSH shout out to Halas on the sleeve though, and wondered if the Pack would benefit from an ECL on the sleeve for Earl “Curly” Lambeau.[/quote]
    Well, the fashionistas that frequent that place have set the bar pretty high so I guess I’m SOL no matter what I wear.

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”347141″]
    Yeah, their W-script clock would work just as well I think![/quote]

    fixed

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”347140″][quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

    It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

    I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….[/quote]

    How to make ESPN watchable? (besdies bringing back the CFL and Aussie Rules) UniWatch the TV show! C’mon, Paul, pitch that idea!

    By the way, if you don’t want to see the stuff scrolling on the bottom of the screen, get a standard definition TV. I wasn’t going to spring for an HDTV, even though sometimes I can’t see the occasional ticker. No big deal to me.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”347112″]re: ESPN

    The “ME” network…or, How we only tell the stories we want and never want to ask real questions & forget that there are markets that may actually NOT INTERESTED in New York Yankees / Boston Red Sox…

    When SNY came around, I was so happy…[/quote]

    Oh, don’t get this flyover country boy started on the Yanks vs. the Sox. Enough already. FOX Sports is just as guilty on that one.

    And Portland Joe, I miss Keith Jackson too.

  • Peter | September 11, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    Jim V: That’s why I specifically said SNY, I hate Fox Sports…Granted, SNY is slanted in certain respects, it’s at least more level and open than the others

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”347146″][quote comment=”347112″]re: ESPN

    The “ME” network…or, How we only tell the stories we want and never want to ask real questions & forget that there are markets that may actually NOT INTERESTED in New York Yankees / Boston Red Sox…

    When SNY came around, I was so happy…[/quote]

    Oh, don’t get this flyover country boy started on the Yanks vs. the Sox. Enough already. FOX Sports is just as guilty on that one.

    And Portland Joe, I miss Keith Jackson too.[/quote]

    Ugh.. Yanks-Sox Who Cares! No one west of New York is my guess.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”347148″][quote comment=”347146″][quote comment=”347112″]re: ESPN

    The “ME” network…or, How we only tell the stories we want and never want to ask real questions & forget that there are markets that may actually NOT INTERESTED in New York Yankees / Boston Red Sox…

    When SNY came around, I was so happy…[/quote]

    Oh, don’t get this flyover country boy started on the Yanks vs. the Sox. Enough already. FOX Sports is just as guilty on that one.

    And Portland Joe, I miss Keith Jackson too.[/quote]

    Ugh.. Yanks-Sox Who Cares! No one west of New York is my guess.[/quote]

    ESPN, et al, always reminds me of something a woman I know actually said to me once…
    “I used to think everyone was watching me and interested in everything about me. I’m not like that anymore, though. But I’m sure you’ve already noticed.”

    —Ricko

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    “New York Brickley’s Giants”…Black, Orange, Old Gold & Cream.

    Drank a bunch of those back in the 70’s.
    (While watching football with the volume turned down and listening to the Bad Brains turned up)

    :)

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    Great work, Chris and James!

    Oh, Mr. Marshall, now I have to take up softball again so I can need those awesome Senators and Pirates stirrups. Maybe I could rock them on the wiffleball field. Say hi to Helga for me…

    Paul, I’m serious – UniWatch TV. Think about it.

    Bud Grant is probably the reason my hands get so chapped in the winter now. When we played football at the schoolyard, no matter how much it was snowing, I never wore gloves. Because Bud Grant’s players never wore gloves and I liked him.

    What’s wrong with Dave Matthews? Besides making John Mayer look great? Well, neither of them compares to this http://www.youtube.c...

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 11:58 am |

    As we head into another Saturday of NCAA football, a relevant observation.

    Most effective college nickname ever?
    (From the perspective of college age males, that is.)

    Tufts Jumbos.

    Coeds can choose their teeshirts/sweatshirts
    (“Tufts” or “Jumbos”) appropriately.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”347147″]Jim V: That’s why I specifically said SNY, I hate Fox Sports…Granted, SNY is slanted in certain respects, it’s at least more level and open than the others[/quote]

    I was agreeing with you. Just when I hear those two teams mentioned together my response is always “Oh, don’t get me started…”

  • chance michaels | September 11, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”347129″][quote comment=”347124″][quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

    and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with lumbermen[/quote]
    How’s this?[/quote]
    It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.[/quote]
    Well, it’s on the Wikipedia entry so there’s no doubt (it was) used.[/quote]
    :D

  • Paul Lukas | September 11, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”347145″][quote comment=”347140″][quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

    It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

    I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….[/quote]

    How to make ESPN watchable? (besdies bringing back the CFL and Aussie Rules) UniWatch the TV show! C’mon, Paul, pitch that idea![/quote]

    An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”347155″][quote comment=”347145″][quote comment=”347140″][quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

    It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

    I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….[/quote]

    How to make ESPN watchable? (besdies bringing back the CFL and Aussie Rules) UniWatch the TV show! C’mon, Paul, pitch that idea![/quote]

    An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.[/quote]

    Good luck Paul! That would, in fact, be awesome!

  • chance michaels | September 11, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”347136″][quote comment=”347115″][quote comment=”347079″]great job chris!

    (also, JTH)

    i need a DIY hobby[/quote]
    (Thanks.)

    Now I just need to know what color pants the Bears are wearing with the white jerseys this year. Y’know, so I’m dressed appropriately at Lambeau this Sunday.

    They went blue in the preseason, but last year they did that and went white for the real games.

    Such a predicament. I mean, c’mon, if I wear the blue and they white, I’ll look like some kind of rube.[/quote]

    You may look like a rube anyway, you know, dressed like that in Lambeau. And I really shouldn’t say that anyway, being a Packers fan that owns a Bears jersey (swear I found it at a rummage sale and appreciate it for the aesthetic value). Always did like the GSH shout out to Halas on the sleeve though, and wondered if the Pack would benefit from an ECL on the sleeve for Earl “Curly” Lambeau.[/quote]
    No, thanks. The unis are cluttered enough as they are.

    But the team should retire #1 for the only Packer who ever wore it – Curly himself.

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)

  • Peter | September 11, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    Jim V: Understood…Sometimes I (we all do) mis-read text…

    TV productions!?! I would like to think I know a little something like that ;)

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)[/quote]

    Nike of course

    /ducks

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”347111″]Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I wouldn’t mind trying to DIY a ’20s style version of the Senators. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they were red, white and blue.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”347160″][quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)[/quote]

    Nike of course

    /ducks[/quote]

    Not by earthlink, I’ll wager.

  • Peter | September 11, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    re: Leatherheads:

    I wish it was a better movie too, but I do find a guilty pleasure in it, but according to this, there might be a reason certain “details” had to be left out:

    (From IMDB)

    In an interview on The Late Show with David Letterman, Clooney mentioned the plot is loosely based on George Halas’s signing of University of Illinois football star Harold “Red” Grange. Grange was signed to a contract with the Chicago Bears in 1925, the day after his final game at Illinois. Some have wondered why the football team depicted in the movie is named the Bulldogs. Duluth’s 1926 National Football League franchise was actually called the Duluth Eskimos, a team that still technically exists in the form of the Washington Redskins. However the team is loosely based on the Eskimos. Clooney later explained that “We wanted to call them the Eskimos, but because we were drinking in the movie, the NFL said we couldn’t use the actual names”.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”347161″][quote comment=”347111″]Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I wouldn’t mind trying to DIY a ’20s style version of the Senators. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they were red, white and blue.[/quote]

    According to Wiki, royal and white.

    You make a good point. Maybe would be fun to let the 1921 versions come from DIYers as jerseys….then let the photoshop-oriented folks take it from there, fast forwarding to the 2009 look in photos.

    Could stir in a lot of people that way.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”347107″]Ugh, it’s a shame how awful those Georgia Tech uniforms are. they’ve really screwed that one up. And now that Clem(p)son has normal pants striping, it’s a joke to see how they clash with the piping on their jerseys. These teams have done it much better before and last night could have been such an aesthetically pleasing experience (even with the all-purple, I say).[/quote]

    I’ll give Tech a pass since they run the option and run it so well. I’d love to see them play Navy.

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”347158″][quote]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.[/quote]

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)[/quote]

    nexium

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 12:26 pm |

    “We wanted to call them the Eskimos, but because we were drinking in the movie, the NFL said we couldn’t use the actual names”.

    Plus, I think there was some suggestion of—Shhhh—non-marital sex in that film, too.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    Yet, the NFL did assist in the filming of BLACK SUNDAY.

    I guess they aren’t as down on terrorism.

  • chance michaels | September 11, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”347164″][quote comment=”347161″]I wouldn’t mind trying to DIY a ’20s style version of the Senators. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they were red, white and blue.[/quote]

    According to Wiki, royal and white.
    [/quote]

    Not for long. ;)

    Seriously, though – those colors appear to all come from the SSUR. Don’t know what his source is, but his credit is good.

  • chance michaels | September 11, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”347168″]Yet, the NFL did assist in the filming of BLACK SUNDAY.

    I guess they aren’t as down on terrorism.[/quote]
    Well, it’s not like the players piloted the blimp or anything….

  • Paul Lukas | September 11, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”347166″][quote comment=”347158″][quote]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.[/quote]

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)[/quote]

    nexium[/quote]

    Crack-up.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”347129″][quote comment=”347124″][quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

    and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with lumbermen[/quote]
    How’s this?[/quote]
    It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.[/quote]
    Well, it’s on the Wikipedia entry so there’s no doubt used.[/quote]

    And someone made it into a gumball helmet:
    http://farm4.static....

  • Gusto44 | September 11, 2009 at 12:50 pm |

    It’s too bad Georgia Tech downgraded their uniforms starting last year, with the silly striping patterns which have become popular in college football. I’d like to see Tech return to a more traditional look, but add a yellow jacket logo to either the sleeves or pants.

  • Hodges14 (formerly Alex) | September 11, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    I have to say, I like the new design for the Barclays Center, but there is one problem with it:
    It looks like a giant wang.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    “Florida A&M has some seriously WFL-looking pants” would be another way to desribe them…

  • bartusball | September 11, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”347078″]What is wrong with Dave Matthews?[/quote]

    Absolutely nothing! Their lastest CD is awesome btw. In fact one of my fantasy football teams is named Shake Me Like A Monkey

    I’ve got some problems logistically with buying the tix, mainly travel distance and work, otherwise….

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”347161″][quote comment=”347111″]Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I wouldn’t mind trying to DIY a ’20s style version of the Senators. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they were red, white and blue.[/quote]

    Maybe a royal jersey with white “friction strips” forming a “W” on the front?

    Or did some team already do such a thing back then?

  • Chris | September 11, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    Does anyone here know what the Bruins design is based on. To me, it looks like a bastardization of the crest from the 1948-48 sweaters, sans 24 and 49 and the sweater, though with various striping patterns, from 1955-67. It seems like they took a page out of the Blackhawks book, with the mongrelization of non-concurrent designs. Just ordered a pair of Pilots stirrups and cannot wait.

  • bartusball | September 11, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”347089″][quote comment=”347085″]Brooks Orpik of the Pittsburgh Penguins had to give up his number… for an hour or two.

    http://community.pos...
    http://community.pos...

    For some reason, I’m reminded of the Crimson Tide.[/quote]

    They should have had pictures taken with #44 drinking out of the cup. That would have been extremely cool. Could have had that conversation over some beers using the Lord Stanley’s trophy. Don’t tell me Obama wouldn’t have gotten major props. Just sayin’

  • DenverGregg | September 11, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”347173″]It’s too bad Georgia Tech downgraded their uniforms starting last year, with the silly striping patterns which have become popular in college football. I’d like to see Tech return to a more traditional look, but add a yellow jacket logo to either the sleeves or pants.[/quote]
    The old GT unis were among my favorites. Probably because the first uni I ever got to wear was based on this(as to colors, stripes, numbers only). Glad there’s something we can agree on ;-)

  • bartusball | September 11, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”347113″]We may have a sneak peek at the Boston Bruins’ Winter Classic jersey. This was making the rounds at HFBoards, Icethetics, and Chris Cramer’s site last night.

    http://farm3.static....

    It is a screen grab from this video about Tim Thomas and his recent NHL media tour.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Those Bruins sixties, Orr era jerseys are solid. Just solid!

  • Rob Ullman | September 11, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    LOVE the Falcons tickets…you should see some of the other ideas Todd has rollin’ around in his head!

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”347177″][quote comment=”347161″][quote comment=”347111″]Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I wouldn’t mind trying to DIY a ’20s style version of the Senators. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they were red, white and blue.[/quote]

    Maybe a royal jersey with white “friction strips” forming a “W” on the front?

    Or did some team already do such a thing back then?[/quote]

    I have a plain teal shirt…would that be ’20s enough? ;)

  • Jeff Morris | September 11, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    Is there an e-mail address I can contact Chris Markham at?

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote]I have a plain teal shirt[/quote]

    do you wear it with your johnny mac circa 1981 wimbledon shorts?

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”347185″][quote]I have a plain teal shirt[/quote]

    do you wear it with your johnny mac circa 1981 wimbledon shorts?[/quote]

    you betcha…

  • Scott Davis | September 11, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    JTH… what kind of agent did you use for the aged look? Was it Rit dye or something similar?

    Looks fantastic!

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”347183″][quote comment=”347177″][quote comment=”347161″][quote comment=”347111″]Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I wouldn’t mind trying to DIY a ’20s style version of the Senators. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess they were red, white and blue.[/quote]

    Maybe a royal jersey with white “friction strips” forming a “W” on the front?

    Or did some team already do such a thing back then?[/quote]

    I have a plain teal shirt…would that be ’20s enough? ;)[/quote]

    Sure. Just call it a “Washington Senators 1921 jersey” and you’re done!

    Easiest DIY in history.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”347184″]Is there an e-mail address I can contact Chris Markham at?[/quote]

    To which someone said, “Don’t you know you shouldn’t end a sentence with a preposition?”

    To which he replied, “is there an e-mail address I can contact Chris Markham at, asshole?”

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)[/quote]

    Hillshire Farm? “Go Meat!”

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”347190″][quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)[/quote]

    Hillshire Farm? “Go Meat!”[/quote]

    Beef: it’s what’s for Dinner. With Matthew M doing the intro
    ” Now, Live from the Land of Lean Beef…””

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”347191″][quote comment=”347190″][quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)[/quote]

    Hillshire Farm? “Go Meat!”[/quote]

    Beef: it’s what’s for Dinner. With Matthew M doing the intro
    ” Now, Live from the Land of Lean Beef…””[/quote]

    SPAM just gets no love, does it.

  • don d. | September 11, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”347088″]Anybody notice that on that Falcons game ticket the QB (Bartkowski?) has his chin strap un-snapped?[/quote]

    I think Bartkowski was playing for Bucsher High in 1966.

  • Oakville Endive | September 11, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”347134″]a. those Atlanta Falcons throwbacks are pretty much THE perfect football uniform, in my opinion.

    b. i like those Bruins’ uni’s. if they use them i’d be okay with it.

    c. this might be the best NFL season since the merger for uniforms.[/quote]

    Well maybe not perfect, but definitely better than their current uni, (the pants in particular look sharp) maybe a good candidate , along with Buffalo’s to be adopted full time

    Interesting to see Niagara hockey team wears silver pants, that’s the closest I’ve seen to recreating the Washington Capitals white pants.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”347193″][quote comment=”347088″]Anybody notice that on that Falcons game ticket the QB (Bartkowski?) has his chin strap un-snapped?[/quote]

    I think Bartkowski was playing for Bucsher High in 1966.[/quote]

    That’s Randy Johnson. Falcons’ first reg. QB. Played at Texas A&I. #85 is background is TE Bill Martin (former Bear and Georgia Tech Yellowjacket).

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”347151″]Great work, Chris and James!
    [/quote]
    High praise from a DIY master. Thanks.

    [quote comment=”347187″]JTH… what kind of agent did you use for the aged look? Was it Rit dye or something similar?

    Looks fantastic![/quote]
    Thanks.

    Yes, that’s right. It’s Rit. Golden yellow, to be exact. (Thanks to Robert Marshall for that tip.)

    Best 2 bucks I ever spent at Kmart.

  • Chris M | September 11, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”347184″]Is there an e-mail address I can contact Chris Markham at?[/quote]

    Jeff,

    cmarkham20 (at) gmail dot com

  • Ry Co 40 | September 11, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”347118″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

    Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

    Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Amen, brother. With all that material, it should’ve been excellent.

    Can’t believe that was the hill Clooney wanted to die on. If you’re going to pull out of the Guild over a credit dispute, shouldn’t it be because they wouldn’t let you put your name on a good script?[/quote]

    why didn’t you guys like the movie?

    i thought it was an entertaining movie. plus, i like movies where clooney just acts silly. like o brother, or intolerable cruelty

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote]i like movies where clooney just acts silly.[/quote]

    as opposed to say, men who stare at goats

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”347198″][quote comment=”347118″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)

    Actually there were plenty of others new to me, but that one was the best.

    Okay, here’s a project for the designers among us…
    Have no idea what their colors were, but…

    Design 2009-era unis for any of these four “One and Done in ’21” teams that played only during the league’s second season:

    Cincinnati Celts
    New York Brickleys Giants
    Tonawanda Kardex
    Washington Senators

    (This oughta be fun).

    Unfortunately, I’m also thinking of how much I wish LEATHERHEADS had been a better movie, LOL.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Amen, brother. With all that material, it should’ve been excellent.

    Can’t believe that was the hill Clooney wanted to die on. If you’re going to pull out of the Guild over a credit dispute, shouldn’t it be because they wouldn’t let you put your name on a good script?[/quote]

    why didn’t you guys like the movie?

    i thought it was an entertaining movie. plus, i like movies where clooney just acts silly. like o brother, or intolerable cruelty[/quote]

    From my standpoint (in no particular order)…
    Why the gold/sepia tint to everything? Yeah, old photos look like that, but the world didn’t.
    Really, where’s the story arc?
    Why is every game played in mud?
    Relies WAY to much on period music to establish the era, instead the script.
    Oh, wow, the “big game” ends with fiendishly clever play that, in real life, quite probably could never happened. Not that I expect reality in comedy, but I do expect good, inventive comedy.
    The “Red Grange” character? Actor looks FAR too much like a basketball player (tall and thin) rather than a mega-star football player.
    More development of some of the possibly quite funny minor characters would have given the film a whole lot more depth and charm. Hell, even the BATBOY got his due in THE NATURAL.

    (I’ll stop).

    —Ricko

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.

  • Mike N. | September 11, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    Is it me, or do college teams with gold in their scheme have a more liberal interpretation of what their school colors are than other schools when it comes to apparel?

    For my school, Georgia Tech, you can go to their official shop and buy a school bus yellow hat to go with a Vegas gold jersey, an old gold flag and a banana yellow t-shirt. Just a handful of schools that I have noticed with the same problem are Wake Forest, Notre Dame, and Baylor. I am sure that there are lots of other examples.

    How come these GOLD schools aren’t more strict about what color represents their sports programs? Just curious if anyone else gets bothered about this like I do, or if I’m the oddball. :) I’m betting on ‘oddball’.

  • tosaman | September 11, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    This is a stupid petty little thing, but is anyone else annoyed with the trend in cap/small cap display text having the last letter capialized?
    http://blog.mpl.org/...

    How & when did this get started?

    And don’t even mention upper/lower/upper case:
    http://www.coral-lab...

    My apologies if this is my own personal obsessive quirk, but if this message board doesn’t understand, no one will.

  • tosaman | September 11, 2009 at 2:37 pm |

    Check that. It should be “last letter capitalized”.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”347200″][quote comment=”347198″][quote comment=”347118″][quote comment=”347111″]why didn’t you guys like the movie?

    i thought it was an entertaining movie. plus, i like movies where clooney just acts silly. like o brother, or intolerable cruelty[/quote]

    From my standpoint (in no particular order)…
    Why the gold/sepia tint to everything? Yeah, old photos look like that, but the world didn’t.
    Really, where’s the story arc?
    Why is every game played in mud?
    Relies WAY to much on period music to establish the era, instead the script.
    Oh, wow, the “big game” ends with fiendishly clever play that, in real life, quite probably could never happened. Not that I expect reality in comedy, but I do expect good, inventive comedy.
    The “Red Grange” character? Actor looks FAR too much like a basketball player (tall and thin) rather than a mega-star football player.
    More development of some of the possibly quite funny minor characters would have given the film a whole lot more depth and charm. Hell, even the BATBOY got his due in THE NATURAL.

    (I’ll stop).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Every game was played in mud because Hollywood loves that stuff. How many movies, commercials, TV shows, etc. have shown football played in a driving rain or in a mudpit? I enjoy a good snow game, or games played on chewed up grass, but the Hollywood depictions are so over the top it’s not funny. If they really wanted to pay homage to old-time football they wouldn’t resort to this tired old cliche.

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 2:40 pm |

    Mike N.
    I believe you’re a evenball-at least I hope so.
    While not as passionate as you sound on the subject, this question of what is “gold” has entered my mind as well. My favorite professional grid teams colors are officially Burgundy and Gold. There hasn’t been any metallic looking gold in their uni since the 70’s. I believe the yellower “gold” has more pop on the TV screen, but those more knowledgeable than I can probably expand on that. Do not give up your quest!

    Have you hailed your Skins today?

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”347206″]Mike N.
    I believe you’re a evenball-at least I hope so.
    While not as passionate as you sound on the subject, this question of what is “gold” has entered my mind as well. My favorite professional grid teams colors are officially Burgundy and Gold. There hasn’t been any metallic looking gold in their uni since the 70’s. I believe the yellower “gold” has more pop on the TV screen, but those more knowledgeable than I can probably expand on that. Do not give up your quest!

    Have you flailed your Skins today?[/quote]

    *checks his right sleeve, checks his left sleeve* yep metallic silver for the old silver and blue.

    How ’bout dem Cowboys!?

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”347205″][quote comment=”347200″][quote comment=”347198″][quote comment=”347118″][quote comment=”347111″]why didn’t you guys like the movie?

    i thought it was an entertaining movie. plus, i like movies where clooney just acts silly. like o brother, or intolerable cruelty[/quote]

    From my standpoint (in no particular order)…
    Why the gold/sepia tint to everything? Yeah, old photos look like that, but the world didn’t.
    Really, where’s the story arc?
    Why is every game played in mud?
    Relies WAY to much on period music to establish the era, instead the script.
    Oh, wow, the “big game” ends with fiendishly clever play that, in real life, quite probably could never happened. Not that I expect reality in comedy, but I do expect good, inventive comedy.
    The “Red Grange” character? Actor looks FAR too much like a basketball player (tall and thin) rather than a mega-star football player.
    More development of some of the possibly quite funny minor characters would have given the film a whole lot more depth and charm. Hell, even the BATBOY got his due in THE NATURAL.

    (I’ll stop).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Every game was played in mud because Hollywood loves that stuff. How many movies, commercials, TV shows, etc. have shown football played in a driving rain or in a mudpit? I enjoy a good snow game, or games played on chewed up grass, but the Hollywood depictions are so over the top it’s not funny. If they really wanted to pay homage to old-time football they wouldn’t resort to this tired old cliche.[/quote]

    Pre-CISE-ly.

    Was thinking after my, um, “rant”…

    How many memorable characters–even if we don’t remember their names—are there in LEATHERHEADS? Three?

    Now, by comparison, how many in the original LONGEST YARD?

    —Ricko

  • Squiddie | September 11, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    Given recent discussions on UW, this one should be easy

    Mental Floss College Football Traditions Quiz

  • Craig MacHenry | September 11, 2009 at 2:48 pm |

    Flyers unveiled their Winter Classic Jerseys today. Here is a link.

    http://www.puckdrawn...

    Here is another photo of the rumored Bruin’s Classic Jersey.

    http://thebostonspor...

  • mmwatkin | September 11, 2009 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”347209″]Given recent discussions on UW, this one should be easy

    Mental Floss College Football Traditions Quiz[/quote]

    Whoo hoo! 100%!

  • Paul Lukas | September 11, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”347203″]This is a stupid petty little thing, but is anyone else annoyed with the trend in cap/small cap display text having the last letter capialized?
    http://blog.mpl.org/...

    How & when did this get started?

    And don’t even mention upper/lower/upper case:
    http://www.coral-lab...

    My apologies if this is my own personal obsessive quirk, but if this message board doesn’t understand, no one will.[/quote]

    Hate it, and have voiced that opinion quite a few times over the years. Not sure where it started, although I’m disappointed to say that my friend Todd Radom is a frequent practitioner.

  • Gusto44 | September 11, 2009 at 3:13 pm |

    It would be great if the Atlanta Falcons, Minnesota Vikings,Arizona Cardinals, and Buffalo Bills returned to a more traditional uniform look.

    The Falcons throwback uniform is almost jarring, compared to the wandering stripes they currently use. Have to say, Buffalo is the worst, I’d really like to hear from any Bills fans on this board, I’ve heard Buffalo’s AFL style uniform is popular in that area.

  • Bill | September 11, 2009 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”347113″]We may have a sneak peek at the Boston Bruins’ Winter Classic jersey. This was making the rounds at HFBoards, Icethetics, and Chris Cramer’s site last night.

    http://farm3.static....

    It is a screen grab from this video about Tim Thomas and his recent NHL media tour.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Looks for real; just like my Bruins to make an announcement about unveiling them next week, then let a player wear one for an interview:

    http://www.aww-kitta...

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”347212″][quote comment=”347203″]This is a stupid petty little thing, but is anyone else annoyed with the trend in cap/small cap display text having the last letter capialized?
    http://blog.mpl.org/...

    How & when did this get started?

    And don’t even mention upper/lower/upper case:
    http://www.coral-lab...

    My apologies if this is my own personal obsessive quirk, but if this message board doesn’t understand, no one will.[/quote]

    Hate it, and have voiced that opinion quite a few times over the years. Not sure where it started, although I’m disappointed to say that my friend Todd Radom is a frequent practitioner.[/quote]

    when it’s done for NO reason, it’s infinitely annoying…

    when there is a reason (“r” & “s” used to stand for Robert Short)…

    it’s still annoying, but a bit more understandable

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”347201″]Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.[/quote]

    Shoulda been in “Frosted” Mini Wheats.

  • anotherguy | September 11, 2009 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”347084″]Not much could be worse than that pregame crapola troweled out by NBC last nite. Thank God there was GaTech/Clemson to toggle to (on ESPN: sorry,Joe).[/quote]EXACTLY: I’m looking for some pregame about the game of football, and suddenly someone from Hollywood Tonight is talking about who’s singing. Don’t bill that as a pregame show. Tell me when the football game starts or someone who knows about football is going to talk.

    And if John Cougar Mellowcrap comes out during the World Series I will personally arrange for his little pink house to burn to the ground.

  • anotherguy | September 11, 2009 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”347152″]
    Most effective college nickname ever?

    Tufts Jumbos.
    [/quote]Ricko, you’re aware that Tufts is famous for it’s dental school, don’t you?

  • anotherguy | September 11, 2009 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”347092″]
    Maybe Paul was on the Chicago River one day checking out signage and…[/quote]
    HEY NOW! WE DID NOT DO THAT!! YOU CAN CHECK WITH THE BUS COMPANY AND EVERYTHING….

    oh wait, maybe it was us.

    Never mind.

  • RS Rogers | September 11, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”347203″]… is anyone else annoyed with the trend in cap/small cap display text having the last letter capialized?
    http://blog.mpl.org/...

    How & when did this get started?

    And don’t even mention upper/lower/upper case:
    http://www.coral-lab...

    The capitalized last letter when the middle is lc is just wrong from any standpoint.

    The last-letter-large thing when all the letters are caps is about as old as written language, so there’s little use arguing against it now. (Seriously, I’ve seen the equivalent of this in ancient Bible manuscripts, and you see it all the time in nineteenth century print advertising and signage.) I’m not a fan of the practice, but I’ve taught myself not to let it bother me too much, since it’s just as unalterably a part of typography as the shape of the letter F. Plus, unlike the capitalized last letter on an lc word, it is possible to do the large last letter in all caps well. See the Washington Nationals for a prime example of how the bookends thing can be done elegantly.

    (And that is the only element of the Nats unis I have ever called “elegant.”)

  • tosaman | September 11, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    when it’s done for NO reason, it’s infinitely annoying…

    when there is a reason (“r” & “s” used to stand for Robert Short)…

    it’s still annoying, but a bit more understandable[/quote]

    Being ignorant, I Wikipedia’d Robert Short http://en.wikipedia.... and found the story behind this banner http://farm2.static....

    Good for a Friday afternoon LOL.

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”347216″][quote comment=”347201″]Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.[/quote]

    Shoulda been in “Frosted” Mini Wheats.[/quote]

    (nod of approval)

  • M.Princip | September 11, 2009 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”347212″][quote comment=”347203″]This is a stupid petty little thing, but is anyone else annoyed with the trend in cap/small cap display text having the last letter capialized?
    http://blog.mpl.org/...

    How & when did this get started?

    And don’t even mention upper/lower/upper case:
    http://www.coral-lab...

    My apologies if this is my own personal obsessive quirk, but if this message board doesn’t understand, no one will.[/quote]

    Hate it, and have voiced that opinion quite a few times over the years. Not sure where it started, although I’m disappointed to say that my friend Todd Radom is a frequent practitioner.[/quote]

    I actually like what this does graphically in that it creates a visually interesting symmetry with the wordmark. Visually interesting, in a similar way that a single upper case letter is used to represent both city and it’s team moniker. However, I will say it’s just not as smart as the latter.

  • anotherguy | September 11, 2009 at 3:35 pm |

    I’ll risk the UniWatch sanctions and ask if there’s a joke about Georgia “STECH” that I’m not getting.

    I’m familar with the SUNY-Atlanta reference, but this is a new one on me.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”347213″]It would be great if the Atlanta Falcons, Minnesota Vikings,Arizona Cardinals, and Buffalo Bills returned to a more traditional uniform look.

    The Falcons throwback uniform is almost jarring, compared to the wandering stripes they currently use. Have to say, Buffalo is the worst, I’d really like to hear from any Bills fans on this board, I’ve heard Buffalo’s AFL style uniform is popular in that area.[/quote]

    Well, you’re gonna find this coming Sunday’s subject interesting, that’s for sure.

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | September 11, 2009 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”347222″][quote comment=”347216″][quote comment=”347201″]Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.[/quote]

    Shoulda been in “Frosted” Mini Wheats.[/quote]

    (nod of approval)[/quote]
    Headshots are all you can get from Ted Williams these days, correct?

    And usually he has an icy glare on his face.

  • WSCopic | September 11, 2009 at 3:47 pm |

    Was someone actually comparing The Natural to Leatherheads..?

    That’s just wrong. Can we make a rule not to mention those two movies in the same post from now on? It just doesn’t seem right.

    :)

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”347155″][quote comment=”347145″][quote comment=”347140″][quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

    It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

    I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….[/quote]

    How to make ESPN watchable? (besdies bringing back the CFL and Aussie Rules) UniWatch the TV show! C’mon, Paul, pitch that idea![/quote]

    An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.[/quote]

    Here’s an idea:

    Paul hosts a different celebrity sporting event (softball, flag football, 3-on-3 halfcourt hoops, street hockey, indoor soccer, etc.) each week…kinda the Wide World of UniWatch. Celebrity men and women would wear the latest jerseys, or throwbacks, depending on the subject of the day’s show. Paul would do play-by-play, then breaking from the action to give a little more info on the featured unis of the day.

    With the female celebrities involved, think of a real-life version of Rob Ullman’s artwork…with short pants, of course.

    This could be a way to introduce new unis to the public before the teams wear them, or to showcase some great throwbacks.

    Can’t find enough matching throwbacks? No problem – Paul’s highly skilled, highly paid staff of DIY experts could make some for the show…

    Think about it. Beats watching poker on ESPN.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”347228″][quote comment=”347155″][quote comment=”347145″][quote comment=”347140″][quote comment=”347109″]re: ESPN

    It is unwatchable. Aside from games that I just must see, and which are carried only on that station, I never watch it. There are too many much better alternatives when it comes to getting desired information.[/quote]

    I have pulled a page out or our father’s playbook by watching with the volume off. Now if I could only learn to ignore all of the garbage scrolling along the bottom of the screen…….[/quote]

    How to make ESPN watchable? (besdies bringing back the CFL and Aussie Rules) UniWatch the TV show! C’mon, Paul, pitch that idea![/quote]

    An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.[/quote]

    Here’s an idea:

    Paul hosts a different celebrity sporting event (softball, flag football, 3-on-3 halfcourt hoops, street hockey, indoor soccer, etc.) each week…kinda the Wide World of UniWatch. Celebrity men and women would wear the latest jerseys, or throwbacks, depending on the subject of the day’s show. Paul would do play-by-play, then breaking from the action to give a little more info on the featured unis of the day.

    With the female celebrities involved, think of a real-life version of Rob Ullman’s artwork…with short pants, of course.

    This could be a way to introduce new unis to the public before the teams wear them, or to showcase some great throwbacks.

    Can’t find enough matching throwbacks? No problem – Paul’s highly skilled, highly paid staff of DIY experts could make some for the show…

    Think about it. Beats watching poker on ESPN.[/quote]

    An infomercial peddling Starch Blockers beats watching poker on ESPN.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”347226″][quote comment=”347222″][quote comment=”347216″][quote comment=”347201″]Nice headshot of Ted Williams in that Sugar Crisps copy.[/quote]

    Shoulda been in “Frosted” Mini Wheats.[/quote]

    (nod of approval)[/quote]
    Headshots are all you can get from Ted Williams these days, correct?

    And usually he has an icy glare on his face.[/quote]

    Frosted Ted Williams?

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”347225″][quote comment=”347213″]It would be great if the Atlanta Falcons, Minnesota Vikings,Arizona Cardinals, and Buffalo Bills returned to a more traditional uniform look.

    The Falcons throwback uniform is almost jarring, compared to the wandering stripes they currently use. Have to say, Buffalo is the worst, I’d really like to hear from any Bills fans on this board, I’ve heard Buffalo’s AFL style uniform is popular in that area.[/quote]

    Well, you’re gonna find this coming Sunday’s subject interesting, that’s for sure.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    indeed

    you may actually quite enjoy what’s in store for you in sunday’s post

  • Beardface | September 11, 2009 at 4:09 pm |

    Major props to the Flyers for going with the original white jerseys for the Winter Classic…

    Is there any question now that they’ll go with the throwback look full time in 2010-2011?

  • anotherguy | September 11, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”347228″]With the female celebrities involved, think of a real-life version of Rob Ullman’s artwork…with short pants, of course.[/quote]
    Barbara Walters, Oprah, Rosie O’Donnell and Joan Rivers all wear short pants and go bowling.

    Makes your investment in Hi-Def TV worth it right there, doesn’t it?

    [quote comment=”347228″]Beats watching poker on ESPN.[/quote]”I’ll see your raise Barbara, and raise you….”

  • anotherguy | September 11, 2009 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”347229″]An infomercial peddling Starch Blockers beats watching poker on ESPN.[/quote]THE DUAL SAW, SO GOOD WE NEED TWO SPOKESMEN!!

  • anotherguy | September 11, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”347230″]Frosted Ted Williams?[/quote]Splendid Splinter-sicles?

  • Brad | September 11, 2009 at 4:29 pm |

    great, ive had the crappiest week ever, and now Paul is ripping on me for being a Dave Matthews Band fan. not cool. as much as Paul hates purple, thats how much i love DMB.

    besides this little hiccup, so glad to have uniwatch back. thanks Paul!!

  • =bg= | September 11, 2009 at 4:37 pm |

    I guess I know what Sunday will be like.

    10am PT: Cowboys @ Bucs FOX
    1pm PT: Niners @ AZ FOX
    1pm PT: USO Mens Final CBS
    1pm PT: Giants @ LA FSN

    The way I figure, if Fed doesn’t make the final, I’ll bag the Open. If the Giants get whacked tonite and Sunday, I’ll pass on the Giants. Tho I am wearing my BEAT LA shirt.

    And just now, I discovered a PIZZA GUYS SPECIAL flyer on the front door…a positive omen.

  • Hott Rodd | September 11, 2009 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”347237″]I guess I know what Sunday will be like.

    10am PT:

    Cowboys @ Bucs

    FOX
    1pm PT:

    Niners @ AZ

    FOX
    1pm PT:

    USO Mens Final

    CBS
    1pm PT:

    Giants @ LA

    FSN

    The way I figure, if Fed doesn’t make the final, I’ll bag the Open. If the Giants get whacked tonite and Sunday, I’ll pass on the Giants. Tho I am wearing my BEAT LA shirt.

    And just now, I discovered a PIZZA GUYS SPECIAL flyer on the front door…a positive omen.[/quote]

    That is the same lineup I have for sunday, except without the tennis and baseball filler. hmm we must be in the same geographic region… Don’t forget, broncos @ bengals at 10 on cbs

  • War Damn Eagle | September 11, 2009 at 4:44 pm |

    Anyone else notice that the Nats wore their Stars & Stripes blue alt last night, but wore the regular red home cap, not the alt cap.

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”347237″]I guess I know what Sunday will be like.

    USO Mens Final
    [/quote]

    brinke,

    it’s been raining here ALL DAY and the forecast doesn’t look all that promising for tomorrow either…

    although we’re looking at about a 2 hour window today (with all three matches scheduled to go off simultaneously) so maybe we get em in, especially if rafa wins that 2nd set tie breaker and the women both only go 2 sets

    may be another monday finals…just FYI

  • Mike Engle | September 11, 2009 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”347239″]Anyone else notice that the Nats wore their Stars & Stripes blue alt last night, but wore the regular red home cap, not the alt cap.

    http://sports.yahoo....
    I strongly doubt you.
    http://sports.yahoo....

  • rpm | September 11, 2009 at 4:52 pm |

    finally cleared the inbox…

    i couldn’t agree more with jim mothervilker, tech gets a pass because they run the option.

    awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?

    re:revolutionary stirrup party
    i think most of us are smart enough to understand this without me saying anything, but everybody realizes that the use of commie imagery is a joke right? and not about celebrating, or endorsing the 1917 revolution? it’s about the juxtapostion of one kind of zealot with another. or we are as cuckoo for our coco puffs as they were about theirs. and how we, as fanatical partisans, will stop at nothing when it comes to spreading our ideology(he he). who knows, maybe like in real life we will find out that the pajamists had it right all along, but i doubt it. anyway, my personal politics aside, it is in no way politically driven, and i am going to continue to paint us as zealots in one way or another. and don’t forget, as a boy i lived in communist east berlin, so i do have a first hand knowledge of what living in that system was like. there, i said it, so there should be no confusion,hugs kisses and stirrups~rpm

  • Mike Engle | September 11, 2009 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”347241″][quote comment=”347239″]Anyone else notice that the Nats wore their Stars & Stripes blue alt last night, but wore the regular red home cap, not the alt cap.

    http://sports.yahoo....
    I strongly doubt you.
    http://sports.yahoo....
    And now, you’re definitely mistaken.
    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”347243″][quote comment=”347241″][quote comment=”347239″]Anyone else notice that the Nats wore their Stars & Stripes blue alt last night, but wore the regular red home cap, not the alt cap.

    http://sports.yahoo....
    I strongly doubt you.
    http://sports.yahoo....
    And now, you’re definitely mistaken.
    http://sports.yahoo....

    Now THAT’S a softball uniform.

  • War Damn Eagle | September 11, 2009 at 4:59 pm |

    whoops. guess that’s the soldiers cap, not the regular home cap.

  • Jeff | September 11, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    Ummmm….. yeah.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 5:14 pm |

    ESPN talking heads are discussing NFL overtime system.

    And, yeah, it’s dumb. Too much depends on coin toss.

    But Woody Paige is right in saying ties aren’t the end of the world. What was goofy was the way the NFL treated them, simply throwing them out and going by won-lost percentage based on one less game for the two teams that tied. In theory, back then a team could go 1-0-11, and win the title.

    This is probably too simple, but why not just say neither team can attempt a field goal until their second possession of the overtime?

    —Ricko

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”347242″]awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?[/quote]
    Yeah. I had to play with it to get the cream.

    *pause*

    First time through, I only used half of the dye powder because I didn’t want it to be too dark. It looked great when I pulled it out of the dye bath, but once I washed it, it looked terrible. So I dumped the rest of the powder into the mixture and did it all over again.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”347248″][quote comment=”347242″]awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?[/quote]
    Yeah. I had to play with it to get the cream.

    *pause*

    First time through, I only used half of the dye powder because I didn’t want it to be too dark. It looked great when I pulled it out of the dye bath, but once I washed it, it looked terrible. So I dumped the rest of the powder into the mixture and did it all over again.[/quote]

    But weren’t the ’59 pins about as white as the World Series stirrups?
    http://farm4.static....

    Now, early 50s, that’s something else.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”347249″][quote comment=”347248″][quote comment=”347242″]awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?[/quote]
    Yeah. I had to play with it to get the cream.

    *pause*

    First time through, I only used half of the dye powder because I didn’t want it to be too dark. It looked great when I pulled it out of the dye bath, but once I washed it, it looked terrible. So I dumped the rest of the powder into the mixture and did it all over again.[/quote]

    But weren’t the ’59 pins about as white as the World Series stirrups?
    http://farm4.static....

    Now, early 50s, that’s something else.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    think he opted for the set on the right

  • rpm | September 11, 2009 at 5:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”347248″][quote comment=”347242″]awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?[/quote]
    Yeah. I had to play with it to get the cream.

    ha! that sounds about right. it’s the diy that keeps on giving. did you throw it in the dryer after it dried for a little while? it helps set it a bit, but maybe i told you that too.

    *pause*

    First time through, I only used half of the dye powder because I didn’t want it to be too dark. It looked great when I pulled it out of the dye bath, but once I washed it, it looked terrible. So I dumped the rest of the powder into the mixture and did it all over again.[/quote]

  • rpm | September 11, 2009 at 5:54 pm |

    what the? what i do? did i break it? is some plane going to crash into an island?

  • rpm | September 11, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”347249″][quote comment=”347248″][quote comment=”347242″]awesome on the diy’s today. i always wanted to make a clock, but never have. and jth, i was wondering how you made it cream, i had forgotten i told you about the rit, what, a year ago? did all that go smoothly? did you get the desired colour the first time, or did you have to play with it?[/quote]
    Yeah. I had to play with it to get the cream.

    *pause*

    First time through, I only used half of the dye powder because I didn’t want it to be too dark. It looked great when I pulled it out of the dye bath, but once I washed it, it looked terrible. So I dumped the rest of the powder into the mixture and did it all over again.[/quote]

    But weren’t the ’59 pins about as white as the World Series stirrups?
    http://farm4.static....

    Now, early 50s, that’s something else.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    that’s just the pixture in the sun, they were cream. team even wore cream throwbacks when they played the dodgers, and throwbacks are never wrong!

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 6:04 pm |

    Oh, yeah, I forgot about the veracity of throwbackery.

    (Actually, by the time White Sox added the shoulder TVs the unis were considerably whiter than their predecessors. Not as white as the doubleknits that would come later, but whiter. I say that because I never thought the original Twins looked cream at all; in fact was struck by the fact that they had achieved “white”. Always wondered if perhaps that was because by the late 50’s teams decided they could afford dry cleaning instead of regular laundry).

    —Ricko

  • rpm | September 11, 2009 at 6:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”347254″]Oh, yeah, I forgot about the veracity of throwbackery.

    (Actually, by the time White Sox added the shoulder TVs the unis were considerably whiter than their predecessors. Not as white as the doubleknits that would come later, but whiter. I say that because I never thought the original Twins looked cream at all; in fact was struck by the fact that they had achieved “white”. Always wondered if perhaps that was because by the late 50’s teams decided they could afford dry cleaning instead of regular laundry).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    i agree with everything you just said. i am late, need to go call balls and strikes

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 6:10 pm |

    ’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 6:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”347254″]Oh, yeah, I forgot about the veracity of throwbackery.

    (Actually, by the time White Sox added the shoulder TVs the unis were considerably whiter than their predecessors. Not as white as the doubleknits that would come later, but whiter. I say that because I never thought the original Twins looked cream at all; in fact was struck by the fact that they had achieved “white”. Always wondered if perhaps that was because by the late 50’s teams decided they could afford dry cleaning instead of regular laundry).

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Originally, I was just going to color over the silver with the red fabric marker and leave it at that. But when I did that, in no way at all did it resemble a 50s-era jersey. It just looked like a cheap fashion jersey with “twisted” colors. So I added the yellow dye to make it look aged.

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 6:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    But the hose definitely look a bit paler, no?

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”347258″][quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    But the hose definitely look a bit paler, no?[/quote]

    I agree with your “tinting” from a aethetic point of view, absolutely. Woulda done the same thing.

    Re: the photo. Blow it up to 400% or so and you’ll see the stirrups and pants are pretty much the same color.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”347259″][quote comment=”347258″][quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    But the hose definitely look a bit paler, no?[/quote]

    I agree with your “tinting” from a aethetic point of view, absolutely. Woulda done the same thing.

    Re: the photo. Blow it up to 400% or so and you’ll see the stirrups and pants are pretty much the same color.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    One other thing. Good bet those unis were new for the W-S. A few more laundering/cleanings and they might have gone “cream”.

  • Gusto44 | September 11, 2009 at 6:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”347247″]ESPN talking heads are discussing NFL overtime system.

    And, yeah, it’s dumb. Too much depends on coin toss.

    But Woody Paige is right in saying ties aren’t the end of the world. What was goofy was the way the NFL treated them, simply throwing them out and going by won-lost percentage based on one less game for the two teams that tied. In theory, back then a team could go 1-0-11, and win the title.

    This is probably too simple, but why not just say neither team can attempt a field goal until their second possession of the overtime?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Have to disagree about your take on the sudden death rule in the NFL. It’s strange how this question has come out of nowhere the last couple of years. As a Steelers fan, I remember well the 2003 overtime playoff loss to the Titans after losing the coin toss. The format just never bothered me then, or now.
    I think the teams that truly deserve to win are able to stop the winner of the coin toss. Don’t like the idea of giving another possession or prohibiting field goals on the first possession by each team. Injuries would increase on both sides if the 5th quarter was artificially extended. Even without injuries, the physical toll a longer overtime period would be a big negative for both teams the following week.
    With the NFL possibly moving to a 18 game season, that’s all the more reason not to artificially extend regular season games.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 6:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”347261″][quote comment=”347247″]ESPN talking heads are discussing NFL overtime system.

    And, yeah, it’s dumb. Too much depends on coin toss.

    But Woody Paige is right in saying ties aren’t the end of the world. What was goofy was the way the NFL treated them, simply throwing them out and going by won-lost percentage based on one less game for the two teams that tied. In theory, back then a team could go 1-0-11, and win the title.

    This is probably too simple, but why not just say neither team can attempt a field goal until their second possession of the overtime?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Have to disagree about your take on the sudden death rule in the NFL. It’s strange how this question has come out of nowhere the last couple of years. As a Steelers fan, I remember well the 2003 overtime playoff loss to the Titans after losing the coin toss. The format just never bothered me then, or now.
    I think the teams that truly deserve to win are able to stop the winner of the coin toss. Don’t like the idea of giving another possession or prohibiting field goals on the first possession by each team. Injuries would increase on both sides if the 5th quarter was artificially extended. Even without injuries, the physical toll a longer overtime period would be a big negative for both teams the following week.
    With the NFL possibly moving to a 18 game season, that’s all the more reason not to artificially extend regular season games.[/quote]

    Only would be, possibly, two more series per team.
    And I was just saying that’s about the least complex alternative.
    Cuz don’t like the college solution all that much, either. Seems like a whole different game.

    —Ricko

  • bartusball | September 11, 2009 at 6:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”347192″][quote comment=”347191″][quote comment=”347190″][quote comment=”347158″]An entire show is probably too much. But a regular segment on one of ESPN’s shows is a distinct possibility, and is currently being discussed. Can’t say more than that for now.

    Sponsored by……..?

    :)[/quote]

    Hillshire Farm? “Go Meat!”[/quote]

    Beef: it’s what’s for Dinner. With Matthew M doing the intro
    ” Now, Live from the Land of Lean Beef…””[/quote]

    SPAM just gets no love, does it.[/quote]

    In Hawaii!

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 6:49 pm |

    Re:NFL Overtime
    How about basing who receives the ball first on some sort of measurable performance for the first four quarters? Say total yardage or time of possession or some geeky fantasy shit. Rather than leave it up to the randomness of a coin flip.
    (Or maybe on least accumulated time under arrest for total roster).

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 7:01 pm |

    Maybe it’s as simple as…if you have possession at the end of regulation you’re the one to kick off in the overtime? But you choose which goal to defend.

    Haven’t really thought it through, but you’d have been the last team with a chance to score…so you give it back to the other guy.

    Might generate a lot of second down punts in the last few seconds, though. LOL

    Aw, shoot, I dunno. But it seems to me I saw some stats one time that suggest winning the toss has a marked affect on who wins and who loses. And that seems out of whack.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 7:07 pm |

    re: NFL overtime

    im wont to agree with gusto…it aint really broke, so why fix it?

    how did they decide the GGEP in 58?

    seemed to work then…no way should they change it to either the NC2A format(s) or prohibit a team from kicking a field goal in the first series…what if the defenders STOP the lucky team who wins the coin flip? should THEY be prohibited from kicking a FG? that doesn’t seem very fair…you stopped team x…marched 65 yards back on them, but sorry, you have to go for it on 4th and 4 from the 35

    leon may be on to something about the coin flip…

    in all seriousness, except in the super bowl, one team is given a home field advantage; why not just establish at the outset that the home team will automatically have the choice to recieve or kick off to begin overtime? it’s as arbitrary as a coin flip, but the home team should be given some consideration (due to schedule in regular season and due to regular season performance in the playoffs)

    so…my take: keep it as it is now, but if you change it, DO NOT adopt some college style format, and do not forbid field goals

  • bartusball | September 11, 2009 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”347210″]Flyers unveiled their Winter Classic Jerseys today. Here is a link.

    http://www.puckdrawn...

    Here is another photo of the rumored Bruin’s Classic Jersey.

    http://thebostonspor...

    Wow, that Flyers sweater is real effin’ original. Lets get out our electrical tape for the nameplate. If they had real balls they would have used the Philadelphia Quakers sweater.

    In fact, the Bruins should go way back to 1930-31 as well. Check out the sweaters on NHL Uniforms

    Click on the 1930-31 tab to see both. That would be a winter classic.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 7:12 pm |

    Jeez, all I said was for one series each, make teams focus on a touchdown. After that, it’s business as usual.

    You only get to the 35, either go for it on fourth down and risk giving up somewhat decent field position…or pooch kick. Not so terribly abnormal.

    Didn’t say they couldn’t punt.

    —Ricko

  • Scott Davis | September 11, 2009 at 7:15 pm |

    Red overload at Fenway.

    AHHHH….. My eyes!

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 7:16 pm |

    [quote]in all seriousness, except in the super bowl, one team is given a home field advantage [/quote]

    let me just clarify that: im saying that in every regular season game (unless a hurricane renders your stadium unplayable), each team gets 8 home games and 8 away games — that should count for something; in the playoffs, you earn the home field, and that also ought to count for something…super bowl’s “home” team (unlike the world series, where an exhibition game determines such) is decided based on AFC-NFC rotation … so in that instance, a coin-flip is only “fair” way to determine choice of possession in overtime

    ~~~~~

    one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter — just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters — change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

    of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

  • leon | September 11, 2009 at 7:20 pm |

    one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter — just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters — change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

    Like this idea unless there is some sort of wind advantage that a team might “stall” into. (no pun intended, pilots out there).

    of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

    me either

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”347268″]Jeez, all I said was for one series each, make teams focus on a touchdown. After that, it’s business as usual.

    You only get to the 35, either go for it on fourth down and risk giving up somewhat decent field position…or pooch kick. Not so terribly abnormal.

    Didn’t say they couldn’t punt.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    re: GGEP. You think that would have been as memorable if it had been four or five plays and a field goal? Maybe. Maybe not.

    Colts had at LEAST three situations in OT when a 2009 team would have kicked the FG and walked off, but they didn’t. Even they understood it could look–and feel–way too easy that way.

    I’m NOT saying change the present model. Just saying if the quick FG bugs people (and coaches and players, btw), just push it into the background for one series each. It would be the least gonzo way to modify things a little.

    —Ricko

  • LarryB | September 11, 2009 at 7:29 pm |

    When I was at YSU over 20 years ago, A really cute girl sat by me in a chemistry class. She was from Rochester. I liked how she said Ro CHEST er or something like that. The way the accented the name.

    Anyhow great work today. I admire such talented guys.

  • LarryB | September 11, 2009 at 7:33 pm |

    Interesting Oregon numerical picture. In one of my Ohio State Michigan books it has some rosters in it. Back in the Chic Harley, Ohio State’s 1st superstar. The Buckeyes starting lineup went from #1 and up numerically. In that game it had Chic Harley as #10

  • LarryB | September 11, 2009 at 7:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”347124″][quote comment=”347119″][quote comment=”347117″][quote comment=”347111″]Thinking of old NBA got me looking through list of teams in early “NFL” (American Professional Football Association). Swear to god, had never before heard of the…

    “Tonawanda Kardex” (played in 1921 only)[/quote]

    and for those of us unable to get a mental image of a card-filing system that allows quick reference to the particular needs of each patient for certain aspects of nursing care…we’re just gonna go with lumbermen[/quote]
    How’s this?[/quote]
    It’d be cool, if I had the slightest confidence that logo was ever used by the club.[/quote]

    One of my buddies in an online helmet club is from Tonawanda. He has emailed me with information about the Kardex team. It was a while ago since I read anything about them.

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 7:37 pm |

    [quote]re: GGEP. You think that would have been as memorable if it had been four or five plays and a field goal? Maybe. Maybe not.[/quote]

    i still think it would have been the GGEP, no matter how it ended, or how quickly

    [quote]Colts had at LEAST three situations in OT when a 2009 team would have kicked the FG and walked off, but they didn’t. Even they understood it could look–and feel–way too easy that way.[/quote]

    maybe so, maybe not … i was under the impression that, perhaps due to the “magnitude” of the game, but more likely condition of the field, time of evening (by that time), and lack of faith in steve myrha, despite his last second kick to send the game into overtime (remember, field goals then were hardly givens, especially on a cold december day with swirling yankee stadium winds)…weeb wanted to make sure
    … by running it in

    not saying they wouldn’t or couldn’t have kicked it before ameche’s run…but weeb knew the giants were exhausted and he was probably pretty sure (especially with johnny u) that a touchdown was a given…and inevitable

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 7:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”347276″][quote]re: GGEP. You think that would have been as memorable if it had been four or five plays and a field goal? Maybe. Maybe not.[/quote]

    i still think it would have been the GGEP, no matter how it ended, or how quickly

    [quote]Colts had at LEAST three situations in OT when a 2009 team would have kicked the FG and walked off, but they didn’t. Even they understood it could look–and feel–way too easy that way.[/quote]

    maybe so, maybe not … i was under the impression that, perhaps due to the “magnitude” of the game, but more likely condition of the field, time of evening (by that time), and lack of faith in steve myrha, despite his last second kick to send the game into overtime (remember, field goals then were hardly givens, especially on a cold december day with swirling yankee stadium winds)…weeb wanted to make sure
    … by running it in

    not saying they wouldn’t or couldn’t have kicked it before ameche’s run…but weeb knew the giants were exhausted and he was probably pretty sure (especially with johnny u) that a touchdown was a given…and inevitable[/quote]

    Central point: Was more exciting cuz they went all the way to the endzone. And virtually any NFL OT that ends with an TD—or if the FG came after each team has had a possession–just seems to leave everyone with a better feeling. Even if the opening kickoff gets run back it feels better.

    Maybe we could call it minimizing The Gramatica Effect. LOL

    —Ricko

  • Patrick in MI | September 11, 2009 at 7:56 pm |

    Haven’t yet read the main entry, the ticker or even the comments so forgive me if this is a repeat. Jays and Tigers (and even the umps) are wearing red caps with the star-spangled logo. I suppose the Jays are wearing the Maple leaf-spangled logo. To top if off, Toronto is wearing the black alt tops and gray pants. Even if I had screengrab capabilities, I wouldn’t.

    P.S: Wicked sideburns on that Jays pitcher!

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 8:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”347278″]Haven’t yet read the main entry, the ticker or even the comments so forgive me if this is a repeat. Jays and Tigers (and even the umps) are wearing red caps with the star-spangled logo. I suppose the Jays are wearing the Maple leaf-spangled logo. To top if off, Toronto is wearing the black alt tops and gray pants. Even if I had screengrab capabilities, I wouldn’t.

    P.S: Wicked sideburns on that Jays pitcher![/quote]

    If one aspires to the elegant lifestyle of “My Name is Earl”, yes.

  • Jeff P | September 11, 2009 at 8:23 pm |

    So Jeter could get the Yankees hit record today, in an event that will be replayed for years… In a game featuring those damned red hats. At least he’ll be wearing a batting helmet for the moment itself.

    Yuck.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 8:47 pm |

    Only half joking, but if you don’t like the coin toss, how about a jump ball or a scrum to start OT?

    I don’t have a problem with ties, either. Just do a point system like CFL or soccer – 3 points for a win and 1 for a tie. Then you could eliminate regular season OT, but keep it as is for the playoffs.

  • Matt English | September 11, 2009 at 9:09 pm |

    Jays @ Tigers:

    As someone mentioned, Jays are wearing their black alt jerseys paired with their gray road pants. Now, the Jays generally wear their black jerseys with their white pants, and they do so for home night games, not away games. Something’s up. Maybe the black jerseys matched the hideous red 9/11 hats better? Also, something bugs me about a Canadian team having to wear American flag imagery on their hats, but that’s a whole other story.

    Jays pitcher Brian Tallet, who’s been an on-again off-again darling for his flirtations with stirrups, has gone pajamas-pantsed for this one – guess his last outing with stirrups on didn’t go too well. I suppose a combination of red hats, black jerseys, gray pants, stirrups and giant muttonchops would be such a uni-overload that Paul would have a heart attack at the sight of a professional baseball player looking like that.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 9:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”347281″]Only half joking, but if you don’t like the coin toss, how about a jump ball or a scrum to start OT?

    I don’t have a problem with ties, either. Just do a point system like CFL or soccer – 3 points for a win and 1 for a tie. Then you could eliminate regular season OT, but keep it as is for the playoffs.[/quote]

    As many pitfalls as that might have of its own, it makes more sense in a lot of ways. There’s just something about “win toss, get two or three first downs, kick field goal” that’s just, I dunno…an anti-climax? Yes, the famous Dolphins-Chiefs and Chargers-Dolphins games ended with field goals but, man, they were great OT’s. Trouble is, they’re the exception rather than the rule.

    Plus, one scoreless period and the tie stands is contradictory to the whole notion. If ties are important enough to break during the regular season, then BREAK them, no matter how long it takes.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”347260″][quote comment=”347259″][quote comment=”347258″][quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    But the hose definitely look a bit paler, no?[/quote]

    I agree with your “tinting” from a aethetic point of view, absolutely. Woulda done the same thing.

    Re: the photo. Blow it up to 400% or so and you’ll see the stirrups and pants are pretty much the same color.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    One other thing. Good bet those unis were new for the W-S. A few more laundering/cleanings and they might have gone “cream”.[/quote]
    You’re right. Blow up the photo and everything appears to be white. Must be a trick of the shadows + the pinstripes making the fabric appear off-white.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”347277″][quote comment=”347276″][quote]re: GGEP. You think that would have been as memorable if it had been four or five plays and a field goal? Maybe. Maybe not.[/quote]

    i still think it would have been the GGEP, no matter how it ended, or how quickly

    [quote]Colts had at LEAST three situations in OT when a 2009 team would have kicked the FG and walked off, but they didn’t. Even they understood it could look–and feel–way too easy that way.[/quote]

    maybe so, maybe not … i was under the impression that, perhaps due to the “magnitude” of the game, but more likely condition of the field, time of evening (by that time), and lack of faith in steve myrha, despite his last second kick to send the game into overtime (remember, field goals then were hardly givens, especially on a cold december day with swirling yankee stadium winds)…weeb wanted to make sure
    … by running it in

    not saying they wouldn’t or couldn’t have kicked it before ameche’s run…but weeb knew the giants were exhausted and he was probably pretty sure (especially with johnny u) that a touchdown was a given…and inevitable[/quote]

    Central point: Was more exciting cuz they went all the way to the endzone. And virtually any NFL OT that ends with an TD—or if the FG came after each team has had a possession–just seems to leave everyone with a better feeling. Even if the opening kickoff gets run back it feels better.

    Maybe we could call it minimizing The Gramatica Effect. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I don’t like anything that suggests minimizing the kicking game. Whether or not the big tubs of goo who block and tackle like it, kickers are just as much a part of the game. If a nose tackle sits on a QB in the endzone for a safety, is that any better way to end a game than if a kicker wins it with a field goal? It’s called “FOOTball” for a reason. Let’s not diminish the role of the guys who put the foot in football.

  • Matt English | September 11, 2009 at 9:16 pm |

    I’m also watching some CFL, Hamilton and Toronto are both wearing neat throwback jerseys – and given the history of these teams (the clubs go back to the 1860s and 1870s respectively) these could be paying homage to anywhere within the past century, I’m not enough of a CFL uni purist to know. The unis themselves are nice, but they’re totally ruined by the advertising patches near the shoulders (pretty much standard for CFL uniforms, I hope that’s not a shock to American readers).

    Then there’s the horrible look of the Rogers Centre field they’re playing on. When the Jays and Argos have back-to-back games (Jays played at the Centre née Skydome yesterday) they don’t have time to fully change over from the baseball setup, and it just looks awful with bases in the middle of the field combined with giant Tim Hortons and Wendy’s ads painted on the turf. But hey, it’s the CFL.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 9:19 pm |

    Truth is, of course, NFL wants games to end quickly. Can’t have an early game running too far into the late games, or a late game running too far into the Sunday night game.

    Allowing more than one overtime would mean they honestly cared about breaking ties.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 9:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”347286″]I’m also watching some CFL, Hamilton and Toronto are both wearing neat throwback jerseys – and given the history of these teams (the clubs go back to the 1860s and 1870s respectively) these could be paying homage to anywhere within the past century, I’m not enough of a CFL uni purist to know. The unis themselves are nice, but they’re totally ruined by the advertising patches near the shoulders (pretty much standard for CFL uniforms, I hope that’s not a shock to American readers).

    Then there’s the horrible look of the Rogers Centre field they’re playing on. When the Jays and Argos have back-to-back games (Jays played at the Centre née Skydome yesterday) they don’t have time to fully change over from the baseball setup, and it just looks awful with bases in the middle of the field combined with giant Tim Hortons and Wendy’s ads painted on the turf. But hey, it’s the CFL.[/quote]

    The field is in a lot better shape these days. Ten years ago they had those mismatched strips of astroturf which were uglier than the ads. I don’t mind the dirt area (kinda old-school), and if you’re going to have ads at least Tim Horton’s is a good one to have. Just trying to find the silver lining in the cloud…

  • Jeff P | September 11, 2009 at 9:26 pm |

    And Jeter does it, and the team comes out to meet him at first in red hats.

    In a few years when they’re showing the highlights we’re all going to cry.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 9:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”347285″][quote comment=”347277″][quote comment=”347276″][quote]re: GGEP. You think that would have been as memorable if it had been four or five plays and a field goal? Maybe. Maybe not.[/quote]

    i still think it would have been the GGEP, no matter how it ended, or how quickly

    [quote]Colts had at LEAST three situations in OT when a 2009 team would have kicked the FG and walked off, but they didn’t. Even they understood it could look–and feel–way too easy that way.[/quote]

    maybe so, maybe not … i was under the impression that, perhaps due to the “magnitude” of the game, but more likely condition of the field, time of evening (by that time), and lack of faith in steve myrha, despite his last second kick to send the game into overtime (remember, field goals then were hardly givens, especially on a cold december day with swirling yankee stadium winds)…weeb wanted to make sure
    … by running it in

    not saying they wouldn’t or couldn’t have kicked it before ameche’s run…but weeb knew the giants were exhausted and he was probably pretty sure (especially with johnny u) that a touchdown was a given…and inevitable[/quote]

    Central point: Was more exciting cuz they went all the way to the endzone. And virtually any NFL OT that ends with an TD—or if the FG came after each team has had a possession–just seems to leave everyone with a better feeling. Even if the opening kickoff gets run back it feels better.

    Maybe we could call it minimizing The Gramatica Effect. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I don’t like anything that suggests minimizing the kicking game. Whether or not the big tubs of goo who block and tackle like it, kickers are just as much a part of the game. If a nose tackle sits on a QB in the endzone for a safety, is that any better way to end a game than if a kicker wins it with a field goal? It’s called “FOOTball” for a reason. Let’s not diminish the role of the guys who put the foot in football.[/quote]

    And a great coffin corner kick that pins a team inside their five after the first possession in OT doesn’t emphasize the kicking game?

    LOL. Now I’m just pullin’ your chain a little.

    The real point is, short of going to the college system or something close to it there really isn’t a better way.

    Except playing additional OT’s if necessary. :)

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 9:34 pm |

    Ads or no ads, those are some sweet throwbacks, eh?
    http://static.cdn.mr...

    Speaking of sweet, anyone looking forward to the sight of UCLA vs. Tennessee?

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 9:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”347291″]Ads or no ads, those are some sweet throwbacks, eh?
    http://static.cdn.mr...

    Speaking of sweet, anyone looking forward to the sight of UCLA vs. Tennessee?[/quote]

    Yes on both counts. The powder and white UCLA jerseys were SO different in their day. Likewise the Ti-Cats’ multi-striped sleeves. Wildly different from one another, but two of the all-time best.

    —Ricko

  • Stuby | September 11, 2009 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”347282″]Jays @ Tigers:

    As someone mentioned, Jays are wearing their black alt jerseys paired with their gray road pants. Now, the Jays generally wear their black jerseys with their white pants, and they do so for home night games, not away games. Something’s up. Maybe the black jerseys matched the hideous red 9/11 hats better? Also, something bugs me about a Canadian team having to wear American flag imagery on their hats, but that’s a whole other story.

    Jays pitcher Brian Tallet, who’s been an on-again off-again darling for his flirtations with stirrups, has gone pajamas-pantsed for this one – guess his last outing with stirrups on didn’t go too well. I suppose a combination of red hats, black jerseys, gray pants, stirrups and giant muttonchops would be such a uni-overload that Paul would have a heart attack at the sight of a professional baseball player looking like that.[/quote]
    Aren’t the Jays wearing this hat?

    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”347290″][quote comment=”347285″][quote comment=”347277″][quote comment=”347276″][quote]I don’t like anything that suggests minimizing the kicking game. Whether or not the big tubs of goo who block and tackle like it, kickers are just as much a part of the game. If a nose tackle sits on a QB in the endzone for a safety, is that any better way to end a game than if a kicker wins it with a field goal? It’s called “FOOTball” for a reason. Let’s not diminish the role of the guys who put the foot in football.[/quote]

    And a great coffin corner kick that pins a team inside their five after the first possession in OT doesn’t emphasize the kicking game?

    LOL. Now I’m just pullin’ your chain a little.

    The real point is, short of going to the college system or something close to it there really isn’t a better way.

    Except playing additional OT’s if necessary. :)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I saw where you were coming from; just that the mention of the name Gramatica tends to rile up those who would like to do away with kickers. We must not encourage these dangerous people in any way. ;)

    If I were Weeb I probably would have ran it in too. Myhra didn’t look like a sure-thing kicker from the films I saw of him.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 9:52 pm |

    Seeing the Ti-Cats/Argos picture made me wonder: anyone think the UFL will be around long enough to have a throwback game?

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 9:53 pm |

    [quote] it just looks awful with bases in the middle of the field[/quote]

    please tell me you just mean infield dirt

    i mean, they don’t leave the bags in the ground for a football game, right?

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    [quote]Can’t have an early game running too far into the late games, or a late game running too far into the Sunday night game.[/quote]

    yes on the first count

    im sure fox or cbs wouldn’t really care if they ran into nbc’s game

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”347271″]one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter — just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters — change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

    Like this idea unless there is some sort of wind advantage that a team might “stall” into. (no pun intended, pilots out there).

    of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

    me either[/quote]
    The problem with treating the start of OT like a quarter change is that there’s absolutely no incentive for the offensive team to win it in regulation if the score is tied. At least when faced with the prospect of having to kick the ball away if they don’t, there’s a sense of urgency to score.

    Of course, that might actually speed the game up because there would no longer be a reason to call timeouts inside the last 2 minutes, for ball carriers to run out of bounds, for QB’s to spike the ball…

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”347297″][quote comment=”347271″]one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter — just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters — change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

    Like this idea unless there is some sort of wind advantage that a team might “stall” into. (no pun intended, pilots out there).

    of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

    me either[/quote]
    The problem with treating the start of OT like a quarter change is that there’s absolutely no incentive for the offensive team to win it in regulation if the score is tied. At least when faced with the prospect of having to kick the ball away if they don’t, there’s a sense of urgency to score.

    Of course, that might actually speed the game up because there would no longer be a reason to call timeouts inside the last 2 minutes, for ball carriers to run out of bounds, for QB’s to spike the ball…[/quote]

    what aboot this then…if they don’t score on the last play to tie (which would then result in them having to kick off to start OT)…

    they are required to “restart” from their own 20 no matter where they ended their possession

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:05 pm |

    ok…watching ti-cats vs. argos…

    game going to OT

    /this is why the NFL is better

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 10:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”347298″][quote comment=”347297″][quote comment=”347271″]one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter — just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters — change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

    Like this idea unless there is some sort of wind advantage that a team might “stall” into. (no pun intended, pilots out there).

    of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

    me either[/quote]
    The problem with treating the start of OT like a quarter change is that there’s absolutely no incentive for the offensive team to win it in regulation if the score is tied. At least when faced with the prospect of having to kick the ball away if they don’t, there’s a sense of urgency to score.

    Of course, that might actually speed the game up because there would no longer be a reason to call timeouts inside the last 2 minutes, for ball carriers to run out of bounds, for QB’s to spike the ball…[/quote]

    what aboot this then…if they don’t score on the last play to tie (which would then result in them having to kick off to start OT)…

    they are required to “restart” from their own 20 no matter where they ended their possession[/quote]
    Yeah. Not bad. Unless of course the game ended with them inside their own 20, then I’d imagine they’d need to pick it up from that spot.

    OK, that settles it. On to the competition committee with this. Maybe Joe Skiba can pass it along to John Mara.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”347299″]ok…watching ti-cats vs. argos…

    game going to OT

    /this is why the NFL is better[/quote]

    You’ll need more reasons than that to convince me the NFL’s better…

  • =bg= | September 11, 2009 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”347240″][quote comment=”347237″]I guess I know what Sunday will be like.

    USO Mens Final
    [/quote]

    brinke,

    it’s been raining here ALL DAY and the forecast doesn’t look all that promising for tomorrow either…

    although we’re looking at about a 2 hour window today (with all three matches scheduled to go off simultaneously) so maybe we get em in, especially if rafa wins that 2nd set tie breaker and the women both only go 2 sets

    may be another monday finals…just FYI[/quote]

    Yeah I saw the radar. Figures, sunny for two weeks, and then BAM.

  • Ricko | September 11, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”347300″][quote comment=”347298″][quote comment=”347297″][quote comment=”347271″]one other thought…why “restart” the game at all? why not just have overtime be a continuation of the fourth quarter — just do what you’d do at the end of first or third quarters — change ends and keep going? or maybe offer defense the opportunity to decide which goal to defend, but game resumes the same way as regular play ended

    Like this idea unless there is some sort of wind advantage that a team might “stall” into. (no pun intended, pilots out there).

    of course, i don’t see what’s so bad about having ties in the regular season to begin with

    me either[/quote]
    The problem with treating the start of OT like a quarter change is that there’s absolutely no incentive for the offensive team to win it in regulation if the score is tied. At least when faced with the prospect of having to kick the ball away if they don’t, there’s a sense of urgency to score.

    Of course, that might actually speed the game up because there would no longer be a reason to call timeouts inside the last 2 minutes, for ball carriers to run out of bounds, for QB’s to spike the ball…[/quote]

    what aboot this then…if they don’t score on the last play to tie (which would then result in them having to kick off to start OT)…

    they are required to “restart” from their own 20 no matter where they ended their possession[/quote]
    Yeah. Not bad. Unless of course the game ended with them inside their own 20, then I’d imagine they’d need to pick it up from that spot.

    OK, that settles it. On to the competition committee with this. Maybe Joe Skiba can pass it along to John Mara.[/quote]

    And maybe to avoid second down punts to change possession, they also forbid punting on anything but fourth down in the final minute of the fourth quarter of a tie game? Because why else WOULD someone punt on anything but fourth down?

    –Ricko

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote]Yeah. Not bad. Unless of course the game ended with them inside their own 20, then I’d imagine they’d need to pick it up from that spot.[/quote]

    yes…

    just thought of another problem…what if the game ends and it’s like fourth and 30 (could happen)…do they get a fresh set of downs in OT with 20 yard line start?

    (and to answer my question from earlier — no, they removed the bases, but agree, looks odd with infield dirt)

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”347301″][quote comment=”347299″]ok…watching ti-cats vs. argos…

    game going to OT

    /this is why the NFL is better[/quote]

    You’ll need more reasons than that to convince me the NFL’s better…[/quote]

    i mean the NFL OT is better
    but i’d still prefer ties are just ties

    …no OT at all

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 10:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”347304″][quote]Yeah. Not bad. Unless of course the game ended with them inside their own 20, then I’d imagine they’d need to pick it up from that spot.[/quote]

    yes…

    just thought of another problem…what if the game ends and it’s like fourth and 30 (could happen)…do they get a fresh set of downs in OT with 20 yard line start?

    (and to answer my question from earlier — no, they removed the bases, but agree, looks odd with infield dirt)[/quote]
    If it’s 4th and 30 when the 4th ends, it’s 4th and 30 when OT starts.

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 10:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”347305″][quote comment=”347301″][quote comment=”347299″]ok…watching ti-cats vs. argos…

    game going to OT

    /this is why the NFL is better[/quote]

    You’ll need more reasons than that to convince me the NFL’s better…[/quote]

    i mean the NFL OT is better
    but i’d still prefer ties are just ties

    …no OT at all[/quote]

    No arguments with this post at all!

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:22 pm |

    [quote]If it’s 4th and 30 when the 4th ends, it’s 4th and 30 when OT starts.[/quote]

    on the 20?

    or at the spot?

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 10:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”347308″][quote]If it’s 4th and 30 when the 4th ends, it’s 4th and 30 when OT starts.[/quote]

    on the 20?

    or at the spot?[/quote]
    on the 20 (or inside it if that’s where they stopped).

    Ah, fuck it. Abolish OT.

  • Glenn | September 11, 2009 at 10:31 pm |

    My 2 cents on the NFL OT debate…..current rules, but with one exception: If team A wins the OT coin toss and goes down to score on the opening drive (either FG or TD), then team B gets one drive (beginning with receiving the kickoff) to go down and score. They must go for the win, and cannot force another tie score (if team A scored a TD, team B must score a TD and go for 2-point conversion). If Team B holds Team A on opening possession of OT and forces a punt or turnover, then regular OT rules apply (sudden-death), but a tie still would be possible except in playoff situations as it currently is.

  • MPowers1634 | September 11, 2009 at 10:41 pm |

    To all of my UW friends: I apologize for slacking in the comments section but I have been INCREDIBLY BUSY lately.

    Did any one catch Larry Jordan’s speech at the HOF Induction ceremony?

    He mentioned something that has been KILLING me for 15 years…In MJ’s return against Indiana, he wore his shorts backward.

    This had been urking me for so long that this might have been my UW turning point!

  • LI Phil | September 11, 2009 at 10:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”347311″]To all of my UW friends: I apologize for slacking in the comments section but I have been INCREDIBLY BUSY lately.[/quote]

    pics?

    [quote]Did any one catch Larry Jordan’s speech at the HOF Induction ceremony?[/quote]

    the what now?

    [quote]He mentioned something that has been KILLING me for 15 years…In MJ’s return against Indiana, he wore his shorts backward.

    This had been urking me for so long that this might have been my UW turning point![/quote]

    turning point?

  • MPowers1634 | September 11, 2009 at 11:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”347312″][quote comment=”347311″]To all of my UW friends: I apologize for slacking in the comments section but I have been INCREDIBLY BUSY lately.[/quote]

    pics?

    [quote]Did any one catch Larry Jordan’s speech at the HOF Induction ceremony?[/quote]

    the what now?

    [quote]He mentioned something that has been KILLING me for 15 years…In MJ’s return against Indiana, he wore his shorts backward.

    This had been urking me for so long that this might have been my UW turning point![/quote]

    turning point?[/quote]

    1. Moved from one school to two older schools…setting up the shops has been a tall order.

    2. Michael Jordan’s induction to the basketball Hall of Fame. His brother, Larry, gave the speech.

    3. When I noticed his shorts backwards and attempted to let me friends know…their reactions to my uni-obsessiveness caused me to think that I might have a gift, uh, problem.

    Notice the lacking NBA logo on MJ’s right thigh…it was on his back left hamstring:

    http://i25.tinypic.c...

    http://www.haitianmu...

    http://cache4.asset-...

  • Tony Miller | September 11, 2009 at 11:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”347313″]
    Notice the lacking NBA logo on MJ’s right thigh…it was on his back left hamstring:

    http://i25.tinypic.c...

    http://www.haitianmu...

    http://cache4.asset-...

    As opposed to what other left hamstring?

  • JimV19 | September 11, 2009 at 11:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”347312″][quote comment=”347311″][quote]Did any one catch Larry Jordan’s speech at the HOF Induction ceremony?[/quote]

    the what now?[/quote]

    Michael Jordan’s hall of fame induction. Didn’t see it, but I was perusing ESPN’s site when I saw this poll question: Should the NBA retire Michael Jordan’s number?

    Heck, no.

    Great player, yes. Overrated, yes.

    Can’t see retiring leaguewide the number of the guy who practically legalized traveling (take a look at the old films – Dr. J took two steps, MJ took several more), or who was one of the biggest ballhogs in the world. I think Magic was better than Jordan anyway. The Bulls had to go out and get better players to help Jordan win a title. Magic won titles by making his players better. And his FG percentage was higher than Mike’s too.

    Let his jersey hang from the rafters of “New Chicago Stadium,” but let the rest of the league wear #23. He was a great player, one of the greatest, but not THE greatest.

  • pflava | September 11, 2009 at 11:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”347310″]My 2 cents on the NFL OT debate…..current rules, but with one exception:

    If team A wins the OT coin toss and goes down to score on the opening drive (either FG or TD), then team B gets one drive (beginning with receiving the kickoff) to go down and score. They must go for the win, and cannot force another tie score (if team A scored a TD, team B must score a TD and go for 2-point conversion). If Team B holds Team A on opening possession of OT and forces a punt or turnover, then regular OT rules apply (sudden-death), but a tie still would be possible except in playoff situations as it currently is.[/quote]

    Totally agree with this. Makes more sense than any other argument I’ve read here. Simple, effective and fair (something the current system is not).

  • mtjaws | September 11, 2009 at 11:26 pm |

    I’m fine with the NFL’s overtime because one team tries to stop the other from winning. If they do stop them, they can go win it. If not, then they need to improve their defense.

    I also like the college overtime rules too. Sure it could go on longer than it should, but it is competitive, and both teams have their chances. The format may not be perfect, but it is WAY better than having the old tie games. Those solved/determined nothing.

    In uni world, some baseball teams should just not wear red hats. The gesture is nice, but doesn’t look good for most teams.

  • JTH | September 11, 2009 at 11:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”347315″]Great player, yes. Overrated, yes.

    Can’t see retiring leaguewide the number of the guy who practically legalized traveling (take a look at the old films – Dr. J took two steps, MJ took several more), or who was one of the biggest ballhogs in the world. I think Magic was better than Jordan anyway. The Bulls had to go out and get better players to help Jordan win a title. Magic won titles by making his players better. And his FG percentage was higher than Mike’s too.

    Let his jersey hang from the rafters of “New Chicago Stadium,” but let the rest of the league wear #23. He was a great player, one of the greatest, but not THE greatest.[/quote]
    Overrated? In what respect? Because he traveled legally? Please. And there were guys, like Dominique Wilkins to name one, doing it before Jordan came along so don’t say he legalized it.

    I’m not going to get into the Magic vs. Michael argument with you. If you think Magic was better, fine. (but are you basing part of that on the fact that Magic’s career FG% was 2 points higher?) If you think Julius Erving was better, OK. If you think Lebron James is better, that’s great.

    But there’s a good reason the Bulls had to go out and get better players to win a title. (Wait. A title? Try 6 in an 8-year span.) They were doormats before he was drafted. The Lakers? Magic Johson was the final piece of the championship puzzle in his rookie season. It was already a solid team that happened to have a guy on it guy by the name of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and later would add James Worthy.

    Who was sharing the court with Michael Jordan his first few years? Guys like Dave Corzine, Brad Sellers, Granville Waiters, Gene Banks and Sam Vincent. How often do you see a team with one superstar and a bunch of nobodies win championships?

    As for the “making players around him better” argument, do you really think Jordan didn’t make Scottie Pippen* a better player? Or BJ Armstrong? Or John Paxson? Or Jud Buecheler, Steve Kerr, Craig Hodges, Bill Cartwright, Horace Grant, Luc Longley, et cetera, et cetera?

    * Not to take anything away from Scottie. There’s no way the Bulls win 6 championships without him.

  • MPowers1634 | September 12, 2009 at 12:23 am |

    [quote comment=”347314″][quote comment=”347313″]
    Notice the lacking NBA logo on MJ’s right thigh…it was on his back left hamstring:

    http://i25.tinypic.c...

    http://www.haitianmu...

    http://cache4.asset-...

    As opposed to what other left hamstring?[/quote]

    I guess it’s later than I thought. :)

  • Jerry Meyerowitz | September 12, 2009 at 12:42 am |

    Chris,

    Great piece. Can you shed some info as to why the original logo was changed. I understand that the Rockies faced a copyroght infraction putting the ball in the middle of the logo and had to move it higher up.

    I also seemed to remember reading in SI a number of years ago that they faced problems with the interlocking CR on the cap. A company Chemical Resources claimed they had a copyright on that logo.

    I appreciate any info.

  • Ricko | September 12, 2009 at 1:11 am |

    Traveling? Shoot, Elgin Baylor traveled all the time. As kids last year Lakers were here in Mpls. we’d go to games, count his steps and marvel that he never got called for it.

    —Ricko

  • rpm | September 12, 2009 at 1:41 am |

    [quote comment=”347318″][quote comment=”347315″]Great player, yes. Overrated, yes.

    Can’t see retiring leaguewide the number of the guy who practically legalized traveling (take a look at the old films – Dr. J took two steps, MJ took several more), or who was one of the biggest ballhogs in the world. I think Magic was better than Jordan anyway. The Bulls had to go out and get better players to help Jordan win a title. Magic won titles by making his players better. And his FG percentage was higher than Mike’s too.

    Let his jersey hang from the rafters of “New Chicago Stadium,” but let the rest of the league wear #23. He was a great player, one of the greatest, but not THE greatest.[/quote]
    Overrated? In what respect? Because he traveled legally? Please. And there were guys, like Dominique Wilkins to name one, doing it before Jordan came along so don’t say he legalized it.

    I’m not going to get into the Magic vs. Michael argument with you. If you think Magic was better, fine. (but are you basing part of that on the fact that Magic’s career FG% was 2 points higher?) If you think Julius Erving was better, OK. If you think Lebron James is better, that’s great.

    But there’s a good reason the Bulls had to go out and get better players to win a title. (Wait. A title? Try 6 in an 8-year span.) They were doormats before he was drafted. The Lakers? Magic Johson was the final piece of the championship puzzle in his rookie season. It was already a solid team that happened to have a guy on it guy by the name of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and later would add James Worthy.

    Who was sharing the court with Michael Jordan his first few years? Guys like Dave Corzine, Brad Sellers, Granville Waiters, Gene Banks and Sam Vincent. How often do you see a team with one superstar and a bunch of nobodies win championships?

    As for the “making players around him better” argument, do you really think Jordan didn’t make Scottie Pippen* a better player? Or BJ Armstrong? Or John Paxson? Or Jud Buecheler, Steve Kerr, Craig Hodges, Bill Cartwright, Horace Grant, Luc Longley, et cetera, et cetera?

    * Not to take anything away from Scottie. There’s no way the Bulls win 6 championships without him.[/quote]

    sam vincent was the greatest player of all time next world b free, and sugar ray richardson.

  • rpm | September 12, 2009 at 1:56 am |

    [quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    son of a saginaw fisherman, i like it cream either way. and i am going to find something from 59 that looks creamy.

  • Ricko | September 12, 2009 at 2:07 am |

    [quote comment=”347323″][quote comment=”347256″]’59 World Series. Much of uni and stirrups not in direct sun. Not much “cream” indicated.
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]
    son of a saginaw fisherman, i like it cream either way. and i am going to find something from 59 that looks creamy.[/quote]

    White socks with cream? How classic Wimbledon.

    Or maybe Boca Raton.