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Auction Action

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When I attended the National Sports Collectors Convention in Cleveland earlier this summer, I spent plenty of time lingering over the basketball jerseys shown at the Grey Flannel Auctions booth. Now a lot of those jerseys — along with a bunch of other good stuff — have shown up in Grey Flannel’s latest auction, which is tied to the upcoming inductions at the Basketball Hall of Fame. Here’s a rundown of some of the more notable items:

• Never knew the ABA’s iconic striped basketball was once depicted on a championship ring (here’s the full listing, which has additional photos and info).

• So much to like about this James “Fly” Williams jersey, including the nickNOB (full listing).

• I spent a few minutes fondling this old USC jersey at the National. The photos I took at the time do a better job of showing the lettering’s gorgeous texture (full listing).

• I suspect a closer view would also show some nice textural details in this old Philly Warriors jersey (full listing).

• If you’re a fan of the Nuggets’ old rainbow jerseys, you can get the original design and the late-’80s update in this auction (full listings here and here, respectively).

• A Globetrotters jersey is always fun, but this warm-up jacket is even better (full listings here and here, respectively).

• I looooove this 1970-71 Sixers design. Dig the Pearson tag, too (full listing).

• Speaking of tags, look at this! Not sure what “Minnesota inspired” means, but it’s an awesome tag design. It’s from this old St. Louis Bombers jacket from the late 1940s (full listing).

• Finally, I was intrigued by this listing of signed checks from Hall of Famer Cliff Hagan. Check out his handwriting — it’s impeccable! Looks more like checks from an elementary school teacher, not an athlete. Interesting.

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Discount Reminder: Remember, Bill Henderson is offering his latest MLB jersey reference guide at a $5 discount to Uni Watch readers. Just go to the Bill’s store and use the discount code “paulhatespurple” when checking out.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Speaking of auctions, here’s a pretty rare item (with thanks to Bruce Menard). … Awesome yard sale find by Craig Bates, who came across this Japanese baseball jersey. Nice tag, too. Jeremy, can you shed any light on this one? … Notice anything different about these uniforms? That’s Crown College, a D3 school, and Eric Bangeman notes that their uni appears to be completely free of manufacturers’ logos. … What kind of socks was Pacman Jones wearing here? (As spotted by Kenneth Ritz.) … Kudos to the folks at The Oregonian, who’ve created a Ducks mix-and-match uni page. … Well, that didn’t take long. … Who’s that holding up the ball? It’s Ted Kennedy, believe it or not. But of greater interest for our purposes is the fact that the Yale players have Northwestern-striped sleeves while others have triple-stripes (good spot by Dan Cichalski). … As expected, David Wright wore the new S100 helmet after coming off the DL last night. Despite all the chatter about the helmet looking too big (including some excruciating exchanges between Gary Cohen and Keith Hernandez on TV), I think it looks fine. … Luis Castillo tried the S100 during BP but went with his usual Cool-Flo lid during the game. … OK, maybe it looks a little big, but it kinda depends on the angle at which you’re viewing it. In case you missed my ESPN column about all of this, look here. … Jon Strauss was at Gillette Stadium for the New England Revolution’s annual “Meet the Revs” event the other day and got pics of some really great stuff on the wall…. Robert Marshall’s latest project: painting this 1960s Orioles helmet for reader David Reeder. “He was putting together an authentic ’60’s O’s flannel uniform to play ball in,” Robert explains. “The snag: Rawlings was going to make him buy 50 Orioles helmets to get one. He had done me a favour, so I offered to paint it for him. Spent 13 hours painting and sanding, painting and sanding. Then I topped it off with the same varnish they used on the cows that lined Chicago a few years ago.”

 

134 comments to Auction Action

  • Rob K | September 2, 2009 at 8:46 am |

    That first picture you posted, with Wright swinging the bat? If you had just shown that picture, I’m doubtful I would have figured out he was wearing the S100. Well, I’m referring to the size of the helmet, of course, not the color scheme.

    I guess the point I’m trying to make is that it didn’t look bad on him at all. :) I guess certain angles might appear a bit goofy, but then again, I always thought Shane Victorino looks a bit like he wears his dad’s helmet already. We’ll all just get used to it.

    Personally, I’m just glad there’s tech out there that can keep these guys safer than they were.

  • bill | September 2, 2009 at 9:03 am |

    Cliff Hagan’s penmanship is indeed impeccable, so is his timing. Note that he cut a check for his estimated taxes on April 15th.

  • Original Jim | September 2, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    Crown might have sponsorless uniforms, but the socks are clearly UnderArmour. Maybe the logo is on the jersey, but the same color?

  • Jeremy Brahm | September 2, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    For the Japanese uniform, the little symbol on the lower right is based on the symbol for the Japan postal mark.
    http://upload.wikime...
    http://en.wikipedia....

    What it looks like at a Japanese mailbox.
    http://upload.wikime...

    The company Marutaka still exists, but I cannot find anything on uniforms for them.

    My guess is that it was a left over sample that we have seen previously at the used clothing stores all over the country. Plus people liked the smiling face so they put it on a jersey.

  • Beardface | September 2, 2009 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”345652″]Crown might have sponsorless uniforms, but the socks are clearly UnderArmour. Maybe the logo is on the jersey, but the same color?[/quote]
    Yeah… I was about to say the same thing… Those are definitely UA jerseys, and the logo is plastered all over the damn socks.

  • scott | September 2, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    Is there any evidence that these new helmets will actually make players any safer? Sure, if they get bonked on the head with a fastball, it will better protect them. But I think the likelihood is pitchers will simply go head-hunting more often, which could lead to more injuries – especially if players get hit in the face or neck.

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    • Speaking of tags, look at this! Not sure what “Minnesota inspired” means, but it’s an awesome tag design. It’s from this old St. Louis Bombers jacket from the late 1940s (full listing).

    “Minnesota inspired” rhymes with “nationally desired”. Butwin a Minnesota based manufacturer bought out by Rennoc in late nineties. Surprised they didn’t come up with some dorky ad campaign surrounding the name “Butwin”. Some of their other stuff can be found here:

    http://www.vintagetr...

  • NickW | September 2, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    I’m so glad the world is back to normal and uniwatch can once again be read on a regular basis. Really love the Turn Ahead the Clock article during the break. Also, thanks to Robert Marshall for the stirrups. I’m now rocking the B. Ryan look in the STL!

  • Mike (VA) | September 2, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    if you dont think the S100 looks a little goofy, they showed Tim Kurkjin on Baseball Tonight last night (10pm airing) with it on…granted hes like 5 ft nothing, 100 and nothing, but it looked like one of those colinders you would put on your head when you were 5 playing war with your brother

  • J Exby | September 2, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    Waitaminnit!

    over 200 “Welcome Back Kotter Paul” comments yesterday, and NO fabric watching fan even mentioned the biggest news of all:

    Paul was hangin with Bob FRICKIN Weston in Chicago!?!?!

    Mon dieu! THE bass player for the incomparable, and tightest band in America today: Shellac.
    based in Chicago, Paul- I hope you saw a gig.

    Next thing you’ll tell us is that in the late 1980s you were rolling around with Albini at Big Black shows? in which case you and I were rubbing elbows.

    Paul has just been elevated to Beyond Mortal status in my book, and not for any uni-related obsession either. Rock on.

    “She was a wingwalker, pitgirl of the sky.”

  • glen | September 2, 2009 at 9:33 am |

    http://www.greyflann...

    Here is a Bull’s ring with the NBA logo colored in

  • Paul Lukas | September 2, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”345660″]Paul was hangin with Bob FRICKIN Weston in Chicago!?!?!

    Mon dieu! THE bass player for the incomparable, and tightest band in America today: Shellac.
    based in Chicago, Paul- I hope you saw a gig.

    Next thing you’ll tell us is that in the late 1980s you were rolling around with Albini at Big Black shows? in which case you and I were rubbing elbows.[/quote]

    Unfortunately, Shellac didn’t have any gigs during my recent Chicago visit.

    I saw several Big Black shows in the ’80s, and Steve was kind enough to write the foreword for my 1997 book (a little hard to see, but his name is there at the bottom):
    http://ecx.images-am...

    End of name-dropping. For now.

  • Bernard | September 2, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    Someone else who thinks the S100 looks fine:

    http://stylemens.typ...

  • Juan Grande | September 2, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”345663″]Someone else who thinks the S100 looks fine:

    http://stylemens.typ...

    This guy likes it too

    http://www.newsgrope...(1).jpg

  • Jordan | September 2, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    The detail of the S100 that stands out as just a bit off is the bead of the brim that starts behind the exposed ear. It exaggerates the size and length of the brim, adding to the appearance of helmet’s unnatural size.

  • Juan Grande | September 2, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”345664″][quote comment=”345663″]Someone else who thinks the S100 looks fine:

    http://stylemens.typ...

    This guy likes it too

    http://www.newsgrope...(1).jpg[/quote]

    try that again

    http://www.kowulz.co...

  • Beardface | September 2, 2009 at 9:42 am |

    Why is it that when I look at the pictures of Wright in the S100, I immediately think of this?

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”345663″]Someone else who thinks the S100 looks fine:

    http://stylemens.typ...

    “When will Then be Now?”

    “Soon.”

    —Ricko

  • Charlie | September 2, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    Brian Tallet looked ridiculous last night. His pants didn’t have elastic in the bottom and they were several inches too short.

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

    Josh Lewin (Rangers pbp) made fun of it for several minutes, calling them capri pants and saying that Tallet had a sudden growth spurt.

  • Bren | September 2, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    http://video.buffalo...

    Cool video with some vintage Buffalo sports footage.

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    Pacman’s socks?
    http://i2.cdn.turner...

    RoboSocks.
    http://filesofjerryb...
    (That’s from serial ZOMBIES OF THE STRATOSPHERE, in which Leonard Nimoy played an alien henchman. Robot originally was used in another Republic serial, MYSTERIOUS DOCTOR SATAN)

    —Ricko

  • Charlie | September 2, 2009 at 9:55 am |
  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 9:57 am |

    RoboSocks (scroll down a ways)
    http://filesofjerryb...

    —Ricko

  • Beardface | September 2, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”345668″][quote comment=”345663″]Someone else who thinks the S100 looks fine:

    http://stylemens.typ...

    “When will Then be Now?”

    “Soon.”

    —Ricko[/quote]
    My God, they’ve gone to plaid!

  • Hal | September 2, 2009 at 10:05 am |

    So, as an Oregon alum, I and other alums complained for almost a decade about the s**t that our football (and now basketball players) wear, with no results. NC State posts a preview (which I didn’t think looked half-bad) and, 24 hours later, they announce that public pressure has made them change the unis. WTF?

  • Hank | September 2, 2009 at 10:07 am |

    Juan Pierre was wearing the S100 before there was an S100. http://www3.pictures...

  • Steve Naismith | September 2, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    Wow, I never realized Clown College had a football team.

    There may not be manufacturer logos on their jerseys, but I see plenty of Under Armour logos on socks… in my opinion, the shin is the dumbest-looking place for a logo. Also spotted a Nike forearm-band.

  • Andy11 | September 2, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    I think the S100 looks a lot less big and dorky if it has the double-earflaps. You’d think it’d be the opposite, but take a look at these pics that Paul linked to in his espn article:
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm4.static....

    I don’t think these look big at all, but I bet if you removed an earflap, they’d look big and stupid.

  • Steve Naismith | September 2, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”345676″]Juan Pierre was wearing the S100 before there was an S100. http://www3.pictures...

    Craig Biggio also wore a different type of helmet with more padding: http://www.nytimes.c...

  • LI Phil | September 2, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”345669″]Brian Tallet looked ridiculous last night. His pants didn’t have elastic in the bottom and they were several inches too short.

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

    Josh Lewin (Rangers pbp) made fun of it for several minutes, calling them capri pants and saying that Tallet had a sudden growth spurt.[/quote]

    yup…last evening, U2horn had the scoop

    just horrible

  • JRJR | September 2, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    Sorry, but unless MLB mandates those S100 things you won’t see many in the game.

    How many pitches are there in a MLB season? How many players get hit in the head?

    Players won’t wear these because they look ridiculous(picture one on Ryan Howard?!) and most likely would effect hitting.

  • M.Princip | September 2, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”345662″][quote comment=”345660″]Paul was hangin with Bob FRICKIN Weston in Chicago!?!?!

    Mon dieu! THE bass player for the incomparable, and tightest band in America today: Shellac.
    based in Chicago, Paul- I hope you saw a gig.

    Next thing you’ll tell us is that in the late 1980s you were rolling around with Albini at Big Black shows? in which case you and I were rubbing elbows.[/quote]

    Unfortunately, Shellac didn’t have any gigs during my recent Chicago visit.

    I saw several Big Black shows in the ’80s, and Steve was kind enough to write the foreword for my 1997 book (a little hard to see, but his name is there at the bottom):
    http://ecx.images-am...

    End of name-dropping. For now.[/quote]

    Yea, perdy slick. I gave you props on that Albini writeup a while back. Interesting that I was turned on to Albini’s work via, one of the bands he produced back in the day, Slint. To be exact, the album Tweez.

  • Steve Naismith | September 2, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”345681″]Sorry, but unless MLB mandates those S100 things you won’t see many in the game.

    How many pitches are there in a MLB season? How many players get hit in the head?

    Players won’t wear these because they look ridiculous(picture one on Ryan Howard?!) and most likely would effect hitting.[/quote]

    These sort of comments likely come from a brain that isn’t worth protecting anyway.

  • mmwatkin | September 2, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    So…every night is David Wright bobble head night!!!

  • LI Phil | September 2, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”345655″]Is there any evidence that these new helmets will actually make players any safer?[/quote]

    both empirical and scientific data are conclusive…the answer is yes

    [quote]Sure, if they get bonked on the head with a fastball, it will better protect them. But I think the likelihood is pitchers will simply go head-hunting more often, which could lead to more injuries – especially if players get hit in the face or neck.[/quote]

    wait…

    are you saying pitchers will now throw at batters because they’re wearing the gazoo?

    seriously?

  • Maltovich | September 2, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    Why does the s100 have to be so big anyway? Hockey Goalie masks let players face pucks going 100 mph, with absolutely no effects. standard masks have maybe 1/2″ of padding? And this guy makes a gel padding that’s even thinner:

    Maltese Hockey

    it’s the best thing I ever bought for hockey

  • bigo | September 2, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”345678″]I think the S100 looks a lot less big and dorky if it has the double-earflaps. You’d think it’d be the opposite, but take a look at these pics that Paul linked to in his espn article:
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm4.static....

    I don’t think these look big at all, but I bet if you removed an earflap, they’d look big and stupid.[/quote]

    I was thinking the same thing when I was reading that article. The missing/additional ear flap makes a hugh difference.

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”345672″]Wow.

    David Wright says he will keep wearing ridiculous looking new helmet (actual headline)[/quote]

    Those helmets actually look better with an understated two-tone.
    One solid color and players really would look like The Great Gazoo.

    Or Ponch.

    —Ricko

  • hee hee | September 2, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    Wright looks like Marvin the Martian hee hee!

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    Ponch and Johnny apprehending Herb Tarlek, apparently.
    http://dvdmedia.ign....

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”345690″]Ponch and Johnny apprehending Herb Tarlek, apparently.
    http://dvdmedia.ign....

    AND THEY’RE WEARING PADRES ROAD PANTS!!!!

  • Jeff P | September 2, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    Without going into a long discussion of it, I’ll just say that the S100 does look ridiculous. I don’t really mind though, It is a lot better in terms of protection. But the Rawlings guys should have talked to the Hockey equipment guys- who have a competitive market, and if they want to make an ultra protective helmet have to make it comfortable and low profile for it to sell. There are several hockey helmets that are just or nearly as protective, but much less puffy.

    IE, this.

    The key is to use denser gel padding and denser VN foam instead of the puffy comfy stuff Rawlings used, as seen here. Notice the EPP, which is the main protective element of each helmet, is just as thick as in the S100.

    Next time, the Rawlings guys should give the guys who’ve been doing the highly protective helmet thing much longer then they have a call.

  • JRJR | September 2, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”345683″][quote comment=”345681″]Sorry, but unless MLB mandates those S100 things you won’t see many in the game.

    How many pitches are there in a MLB season? How many players get hit in the head?

    Players won’t wear these because they look ridiculous(picture one on Ryan Howard?!) and most likely would effect hitting.[/quote]

    These sort of comments likely come from a brain that isn’t worth protecting anyway.[/quote]

    Or one that is smart enough not to let someone throw a 90 mph fastball at it to begin with.

  • Hank | September 2, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    Kudos to Robert Marshall. That O’s helmet is a thing of beauty.

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=\”345684\”]So…every night is David Wright bobble head night!!![/quote]

    good one!

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”345690″]Ponch and Johnny apprehending Herb Tarlek, apparently.
    http://dvdmedia.ign....

    Thank you for the WKRP reference.

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    The key is to use denser gel padding and denser VN foam

    That’s what she said.

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”345694″]Kudos to Robert Marshall. That O’s helmet is a thing of beauty.[/quote]

    Wonder if it contains the denser VN foam?
    (OK, I’m done.)

  • Hott Rodd | September 2, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”345694″]Kudos to Robert Marshall. [/quote]

    fixed

  • pacmanisathug | September 2, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    that new helmet reminds me of the great gazoo.

    http://www.newsgrope...(1).jpg

  • scott | September 2, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”345685″][quote comment=”345655″]Is there any evidence that these new helmets will actually make players any safer?[/quote]

    both empirical and scientific data are conclusive…the answer is yes

    [quote]Sure, if they get bonked on the head with a fastball, it will better protect them. But I think the likelihood is pitchers will simply go head-hunting more often, which could lead to more injuries – especially if players get hit in the face or neck.[/quote]

    wait…

    are you saying pitchers will now throw at batters because they’re wearing the gazoo?

    seriously?[/quote]

    Yes, I’m completely serious. I take it you don’t agree?

  • pacmanisathug | September 2, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    let’s try this again.

    http://www.kowulz.co...

  • Tim D | September 2, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    I have to think that better head protection is not going to create a rush of head-hunting in MLB. Perhaps I’m just too old school, but I just don’t see that happening..no.

  • Beardface | September 2, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    Check out the NOB discrepencies between the Sutters in this picture on SI. Hadn’t seen that before… interesting…

  • Jordan Sogn | September 2, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    s100’s look just as goofy as DNA helmets in my opinion.

  • JimV19 | September 2, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”345687″][quote comment=”345678″]I think the S100 looks a lot less big and dorky if it has the double-earflaps. You’d think it’d be the opposite, but take a look at these pics that Paul linked to in his espn article:
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm4.static....

    I don’t think these look big at all, but I bet if you removed an earflap, they’d look big and stupid.[/quote]

    I was thinking the same thing when I was reading that article. The missing/additional ear flap makes a hugh difference.[/quote]

    I always wondered why they didn’t just have everybody wear the double flaps in the first place. If you’re a baserunner, wouldn’t you want ear protection from a line drive or a stray throw?

    Better yet, they could use tennis balls instead of baseballs. Then you could just wear a ballcap and hit massive homers without needing to take steroids…

  • LI Phil | September 2, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    [quote]Yes, I’m completely serious. I take it you don’t agree?[/quote]

    im pretty sure there is a code in baseball that dictates when you plunk an opposing team’s hitter…(roided up clemens notwithstanding)

    and i seriously doubt that code includes throwing at guys with head injuries who wear the more protective helmet

    that being said, im NOT a fan of body armor wearing players who can seemingly dive into pitches without fear, since that takes away a pitchers’ weapon…and if you want to argue that guys who don elbow armor and the like are inviting trouble, then i’d say you have an argument…

    but throwing at a guy’s head intentionally? just because he’s wearing the gazoo?

    what for? to see if it can really take a 95MPH heater?

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”345703″]I have to think that better head protection is not going to create a rush of head-hunting in MLB. Perhaps I’m just too old school, but I just don’t see that happening..no.[/quote]

    Agree. I don’t think the typical MLB pitcher is standing on the mound thinking, “What can I do to get my ass thrown out of this game?”

    Yeah, they might be a bit more inclined to throw inside (which isn’t bad), but more headhunting? Nah, doesn’t seem likely.

    —Ricko

  • Bo in Boulder | September 2, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    Was at the Rockies/Mets game last night and listening to the radio. The radio guys made some comments about the size of Wright’s helmet and I got the impression they were thinking it was a special helmet just for Wright, since it was his first game back after getting pegged. Sitting in the stands, it doesn’t look that big. Until you look at the Jumbotron…
    The players who complain about how goofy it looks need to look down and realize how ridiculous it looks to have pants so long that they end up under their shoes…

  • Juke Early | September 2, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    Anything that keeps a player such as David Wright in the game is good. F**k how it looks.

    AND that St. Louis Bombers jacket is instant wanna-havit!

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 11:27 am |

    On the subject of huge helmets, it’s kinda where things are headed, isn’t it. For the moment, anyway.

    It isn’t so apparent in football because the shoulder pads already create a proportion distortion, but I noticed last year that Penn State’s white helmets looked absolutely HUGE.

    And it was even more noticeable when I saw video of their sans-shoulder pads practices on the Big Ten Network this summer.

    —Ricko

  • Beardface | September 2, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”345708″][quote comment=”345703″]I have to think that better head protection is not going to create a rush of head-hunting in MLB. Perhaps I’m just too old school, but I just don’t see that happening..no.[/quote]

    Agree. I don’t think the typical MLB pitcher is standing on the mound thinking, “What can I do to get my ass thrown out of this game?”

    Yeah, they might be a bit more inclined to throw inside (which isn’t bad), but more headhunting? Nah, doesn’t seem likely.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well… then again, you have pitchers (and managers who instruct picters… Ozzie Guillen) who will plunk the opposing team after one of their own gets plunked. They throw at them on purpose to send a message. Now that the head is protected up to 100mph, don’t you think there will be a higher risk of pitchers throwing at the head in those situations, especially with those huge ass helmets practically being a bulls-eye, and even moreso that the pitcher knows he’s gonna get tossed regardless of where he hits the batter.

    I think there’s a very good chance you’ll see pitches to the head increasing over the next couple years because of this helmet.

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    Was thinking about PJ’s last night after seeing that Li’l Abner/Alfalfa look on the Jays pitcher.

    And I realized that baseball is now following almost a golf style: Either full length trousers or Plus 4’s (knickers, for those who don’t know the term; y’know, like Payne Stewart?).
    http://www.golfknick...

    So few players chose a length in-between. Not expressing a viewpoint here, just saying that seems to be model for now.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”345712″][quote comment=”345708″][quote comment=”345703″]I have to think that better head protection is not going to create a rush of head-hunting in MLB. Perhaps I’m just too old school, but I just don’t see that happening..no.[/quote]

    Agree. I don’t think the typical MLB pitcher is standing on the mound thinking, “What can I do to get my ass thrown out of this game?”

    Yeah, they might be a bit more inclined to throw inside (which isn’t bad), but more headhunting? Nah, doesn’t seem likely.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well… then again, you have pitchers (and managers who instruct picters… Ozzie Guillen) who will plunk the opposing team after one of their own gets plunked. They throw at them on purpose to send a message. Now that the head is protected up to 100mph, don’t you think there will be a higher risk of pitchers throwing at the head in those situations, especially with those huge ass helmets practically being a bulls-eye, and even moreso that the pitcher knows he’s gonna get tossed regardless of where he hits the batter.

    I think there’s a very good chance you’ll see pitches to the head increasing over the next couple years because of this helmet.[/quote]

    Anyone who’s ever pitched knows generally you throw at a guy’s head to scare the shit out of him. If you really wanna drill him, you throw at the armpit facing you. Much more likely to actually hit him if you aim there. That’s why, if you notice, most times the “retaliation” pitch burrows into the hitter’s ribs or back.

    So maybe we have a semantics issue. “Headhunting” to me means trying to hit the guy in the head. Throwing high and tight for intimidation purposes isn’t headhunting…it’s backing a guy off the plate.

    That, you might see more of…but not because pitchers are trying to see if that new helmet will actually spin when worn (and hit). Which, admittedly, it looks as if it would. lol

    —Ricko

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 11:46 am |

    Did somebody mention golf trousers?

    As presented by Kris Penn’s twin sister:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Jeff | September 2, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”345712″][quote comment=”345708″][quote comment=”345703″]I have to think that better head protection is not going to create a rush of head-hunting in MLB. Perhaps I’m just too old school, but I just don’t see that happening..no.[/quote]

    Agree. I don’t think the typical MLB pitcher is standing on the mound thinking, “What can I do to get my ass thrown out of this game?”

    Yeah, they might be a bit more inclined to throw inside (which isn’t bad), but more headhunting? Nah, doesn’t seem likely.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well… then again, you have pitchers (and managers who instruct picters… Ozzie Guillen) who will plunk the opposing team after one of their own gets plunked. They throw at them on purpose to send a message. Now that the head is protected up to 100mph, don’t you think there will be a higher risk of pitchers throwing at the head in those situations, especially with those huge ass helmets practically being a bulls-eye, and even moreso that the pitcher knows he’s gonna get tossed regardless of where he hits the batter.

    I think there’s a very good chance you’ll see pitches to the head increasing over the next couple years because of this helmet.[/quote]

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

  • David | September 2, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”345709″]
    The players who complain about how goofy it looks need to look down and realize how ridiculous it looks to have pants so long that they end up under their shoes…[/quote]

    EXCELLENT point. And I’m all for looking goofy if it means better safety. Also, remember several years ago when the first non-usual football helmets came out. I’ll bet many players thought then that they looked silly; now they appear to be more the rule, rather than the exception.

  • Jeff | September 2, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”345717″][quote comment=”345709″]
    The players who complain about how goofy it looks need to look down and realize how ridiculous it looks to have pants so long that they end up under their shoes…[/quote]

    EXCELLENT point. And I’m all for looking goofy if it means better safety. Also, remember several years ago when the first non-usual football helmets came out. I’ll bet many players thought then that they looked silly; now they appear to be more the rule, rather than the exception.[/quote]

    But this might be some legitimate criticism, even if they don’t know how to express it properly. If the helmet is so large that it doesn’t fit firmly on the head, it may shift around into positions that degrade the added safety value; or its larger size may restrict field of vision, or range of motion that the players would be used to with a more traditional helmet. Any of those scenarios could actually put them at higher risk.

    Some of those pictures of Wright make the helmet look about 5 sizes too large. At best, the helmet looks about 2 sizes too large. Either David Wright can’t properly size his helmet–which may be possible given it was the first night he wore it–or maybe the players have a point and the helmet should go back to the drawing boards.

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”345716″][quote comment=”345712″][quote comment=”345708″][quote comment=”345703″]I have to think that better head protection is not going to create a rush of head-hunting in MLB. Perhaps I’m just too old school, but I just don’t see that happening..no.[/quote]

    Agree. I don’t think the typical MLB pitcher is standing on the mound thinking, “What can I do to get my ass thrown out of this game?”

    Yeah, they might be a bit more inclined to throw inside (which isn’t bad), but more headhunting? Nah, doesn’t seem likely.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well… then again, you have pitchers (and managers who instruct picters… Ozzie Guillen) who will plunk the opposing team after one of their own gets plunked. They throw at them on purpose to send a message. Now that the head is protected up to 100mph, don’t you think there will be a higher risk of pitchers throwing at the head in those situations, especially with those huge ass helmets practically being a bulls-eye, and even moreso that the pitcher knows he’s gonna get tossed regardless of where he hits the batter.

    I think there’s a very good chance you’ll see pitches to the head increasing over the next couple years because of this helmet.[/quote]

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc.[/quote]

    Also the title of a WEST WING episode.

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    I think there’s a very good chance you’ll see pitches to the head increasing over the next couple years because of this helmet.

    What about batters who are wearing cups?

  • Giancarlo | September 2, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    Dumb question, but I was wondering where and when this practice of painting livestock got started. There are two painted cows in my neighborhood – one in front of a school (kids often seem to be involved with cow painting) and the other in front of a restaurant, I think. It seems like a very 1960s thing, like something you would see on Laugh-In. Wasn’t there a painted elephant in the Peter Sellers movie The Party? Sorry for rambling – this is just an odd, inexplicable phenomenon I always notice.

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”345720″]I think there’s a very good chance you’ll see pitches to the head increasing over the next couple years because of this helmet.

    What about batters who are wearing cups?[/quote]

    Crotch hunting is typically a post-game activity, isn’t it?

  • JTH | September 2, 2009 at 12:39 pm |

    Hey Ricko,

    I ended up with Percy Harvin on my fantasy team. I didn’t even pick him. I was a bit under the weather so I had someone else draft for me.

  • joel kirstein | September 2, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    David Wright’s new helmet has a very “Great Gazoo” quality to it. A similar type of retrofitted helmet for an athlete coming back from a concussion was used back in the early 1990s by a member of the Buffalo Bills whose name escapes me, wore an over-sized, safety foam lined version in the 1993 Super Bowl against Dallas. It didn’t help. The Bills all probably felt like they had a concussion after the beating they took by Dallas that day!

  • Jeff | September 2, 2009 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”345719″][quote comment=”345716″][quote comment=”345712″][quote comment=”345708″][quote comment=”345703″]I have to think that better head protection is not going to create a rush of head-hunting in MLB. Perhaps I’m just too old school, but I just don’t see that happening..no.[/quote]

    Agree. I don’t think the typical MLB pitcher is standing on the mound thinking, “What can I do to get my ass thrown out of this game?”

    Yeah, they might be a bit more inclined to throw inside (which isn’t bad), but more headhunting? Nah, doesn’t seem likely.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well… then again, you have pitchers (and managers who instruct picters… Ozzie Guillen) who will plunk the opposing team after one of their own gets plunked. They throw at them on purpose to send a message. Now that the head is protected up to 100mph, don’t you think there will be a higher risk of pitchers throwing at the head in those situations, especially with those huge ass helmets practically being a bulls-eye, and even moreso that the pitcher knows he’s gonna get tossed regardless of where he hits the batter.

    I think there’s a very good chance you’ll see pitches to the head increasing over the next couple years because of this helmet.[/quote]

    Post hoc ergo propter hoc.[/quote]

    Also the title of a WEST WING episode.[/quote]

    And I contend Bartlet WOULD have won Texas had he just put on the damn cowboy hat!

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 12:47 pm |

    painting of various “sculptures” grew out of fund-raising.

    thanks for the “laugh-in” and “the Party” shout outs. you must be aarp-eligible. :)

  • Paul Lukas | September 2, 2009 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”345724″]David Wright’s new helmet has a very “Great Gazoo” quality to it. A similar type of retrofitted helmet for an athlete coming back from a concussion was used back in the early 1990s by a member of the Buffalo Bills whose name escapes me, wore an over-sized, safety foam lined version in the 1993 Super Bowl against Dallas. It didn’t help. The Bills all probably felt like they had a concussion after the beating they took by Dallas that day![/quote]

    I swear, doesn’t anyone read my ESPN stuff??

  • LI Phil | September 2, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”345724″]David Wright’s new helmet has a very “Great Gazoo” quality to it. A similar type of retrofitted helmet for an athlete coming back from a concussion was used back in the early 1990s by a member of the Buffalo Bills whose name escapes me, wore an over-sized, safety foam lined version in the 1993 Super Bowl against Dallas. It didn’t help. The Bills all probably felt like they had a concussion after the beating they took by Dallas that day![/quote]

    see here

  • JTH | September 2, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”345727″][quote comment=”345724″]David Wright’s new helmet has a very “Great Gazoo” quality to it. A similar type of retrofitted helmet for an athlete coming back from a concussion was used back in the early 1990s by a member of the Buffalo Bills whose name escapes me, wore an over-sized, safety foam lined version in the 1993 Super Bowl against Dallas. It didn’t help. The Bills all probably felt like they had a concussion after the beating they took by Dallas that day![/quote]

    I swear, doesn’t anyone read my ESPN stuff??[/quote]
    Pffft. When was that? All the way back in August? Who can remember that far back?

  • Marc from Brooklyn | September 2, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    I kind of agree with Scott on this. Pitchers may have marginally less fear of injuring a batter with their pitches. In the very least, batters may dig in even more knowing they are better protected if the pitcher gets wild on a high and tight pitch. It happens with some of the guys who use large elbow protection. It happened in NASCAR where safer, more stable cars embolden drivers to take more chances.

    I suppose that players will get used to the extra bulk–not just batters but fielders as well. Fielders will have a larger target to tag but also a larger helmet to avoid hitting on a throw, not to mention a larger object to avoid when the helmet flies off a runner’s head. Could chin straps be far behind?

    [quote comment=”345707″][quote]Yes, I’m completely serious. I take it you don’t agree?[/quote]

    im pretty sure there is a code in baseball that dictates when you plunk an opposing team’s hitter…(roided up clemens notwithstanding)

    and i seriously doubt that code includes throwing at guys with head injuries who wear the more protective helmet

    that being said, im NOT a fan of body armor wearing players who can seemingly dive into pitches without fear, since that takes away a pitchers’ weapon…and if you want to argue that guys who don elbow armor and the like are inviting trouble, then i’d say you have an argument…

    but throwing at a guy’s head intentionally? just because he’s wearing the gazoo?

    what for? to see if it can really take a 95MPH heater?[/quote]

  • Mark K | September 2, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”345727]I swear, doesn’t anyone read my ESPN stuff??[/quote]

    What espn stuff?

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    I swear, doesn’t anyone read my ESPN stuff??

    Kriminy, there are a half-dozen other references to Gazoo in these comments alone that apparently weren’t read. Face it, we live in a short attention span society and……what was I talking about?

  • Teebz | September 2, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”345729″][quote comment=”345727″][quote comment=”345724″]David Wright’s new helmet has a very “Great Gazoo” quality to it. A similar type of retrofitted helmet for an athlete coming back from a concussion was used back in the early 1990s by a member of the Buffalo Bills whose name escapes me, wore an over-sized, safety foam lined version in the 1993 Super Bowl against Dallas. It didn’t help. The Bills all probably felt like they had a concussion after the beating they took by Dallas that day![/quote]

    I swear, doesn’t anyone read my ESPN stuff??[/quote]
    Pffft. When was that? All the way back in August? Who can remember that far back?[/quote]

    Didn’t this site start on September 1? LOL

  • Stuby | September 2, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    I can’t wait to see Larry Bowa go ballistic when MLB mandates (and we all know that’s coming) that base coaches must wear the new helmet.

  • Jerry | September 2, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    Beaver Dam High School in Beaver Dam, WI decided to get new uniforms this year. Their colors are green and gold. Guess which team, they decided to copy.

    http://www.wiscnews....

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 1:17 pm |

    “I suppose that players will get used to the extra bulk–not just batters but fielders as well. Fielders will have a larger target to tag but also a larger helmet to avoid hitting on a throw, not to mention a larger object to avoid when the helmet flies off a runner’s head.”

    So Jimmy Rollins is taking the throw as David Wright attempts to steal second, and what goes through Rollins’ mind is, “Jesus, look at the size of his HEAD!” ?

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”345735″]Beaver Dam High School in Beaver Dam, WI decided to get new uniforms this year. Their colors are green and gold. Guess which team, they decided to copy.

    http://www.wiscnews....

    Maybe we should give ’em credit, since every other Wisconsin high school that wears forest and gold probably copies…some other team.

    —Ricko

  • Jeff P | September 2, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”345706″][quote comment=”345687″][quote comment=”345678″]I think the S100 looks a lot less big and dorky if it has the double-earflaps. You’d think it’d be the opposite, but take a look at these pics that Paul linked to in his espn article:
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm4.static....

    I don’t think these look big at all, but I bet if you removed an earflap, they’d look big and stupid.[/quote]

    I was thinking the same thing when I was reading that article. The missing/additional ear flap makes a hugh difference.[/quote]

    I always wondered why they didn’t just have everybody wear the double flaps in the first place. If you’re a baserunner, wouldn’t you want ear protection from a line drive or a stray throw?

    [/quote]

    A right handed batter’s helmet already has the earflap facing the batter while running the bases.

    Unless you’re running the wrong way, so the Natinals may need double flaps…

    The other thing is the baserunners are paying attention to the play on every pitch. They can see the ball to duck.

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”345723″]Hey Ricko,

    I ended up with Percy Harvin on my fantasy team. I didn’t even pick him. I was a bit under the weather so I had someone else draft for me.[/quote]

    Perfect. You won’t blame me, or you, if I was wrong. LOL

  • Hott Rodd | September 2, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”345736″]”I suppose that players will get used to the extra bulk–not just batters but fielders as well. Fielders will have a larger target to tag but also a larger helmet to avoid hitting on a throw, not to mention a larger object to avoid when the helmet flies off a runner’s head.”

    So Jimmy Rollins is taking the throw as David Wright attempts to steal second, and what goes through Rollins’ mind is, “Jesus, look at the size of his HEAD!” ?[/quote]

    Look at the size of that boy’s heed. I’m not kidding, it’s like an orange on a toothpick. Well, that’s a huge noggin. That’s a virtual planetoid.Has it’s own weather system. HEAD! MOVE!

    I’m not kidding, that boy’s head is like Sputnik; spherical but quite pointy at parts! Now that was offside, wasn’t it? He’ll be crying himself to sleep tonight, on his huge pillow.

  • JTH | September 2, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”345733″][quote comment=”345729″][quote comment=”345727″][quote comment=”345724″]David Wright’s new helmet has a very “Great Gazoo” quality to it. A similar type of retrofitted helmet for an athlete coming back from a concussion was used back in the early 1990s by a member of the Buffalo Bills whose name escapes me, wore an over-sized, safety foam lined version in the 1993 Super Bowl against Dallas. It didn’t help. The Bills all probably felt like they had a concussion after the beating they took by Dallas that day![/quote]

    I swear, doesn’t anyone read my ESPN stuff??[/quote]
    Pffft. When was that? All the way back in August? Who can remember that far back?[/quote]

    Didn’t this site start on September 1? LOL[/quote]
    Actually, I didn’t get the heads-up e-mail when that column was posted, so I wasn’t even aware of it until it was mentioned in yesterday’s blog entry.

  • JimV19 | September 2, 2009 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”345738″][quote comment=”345706″][quote comment=”345687″][quote comment=”345678″]I think the S100 looks a lot less big and dorky if it has the double-earflaps. You’d think it’d be the opposite, but take a look at these pics that Paul linked to in his espn article:
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm4.static....

    I don’t think these look big at all, but I bet if you removed an earflap, they’d look big and stupid.[/quote]

    I was thinking the same thing when I was reading that article. The missing/additional ear flap makes a hugh difference.[/quote]

    I always wondered why they didn’t just have everybody wear the double flaps in the first place. If you’re a baserunner, wouldn’t you want ear protection from a line drive or a stray throw?

    [/quote]

    A right handed batter’s helmet already has the earflap facing the batter while running the bases.

    Unless you’re running the wrong way, so the Natinals may need double flaps…

    The other thing is the baserunners are paying attention to the play on every pitch. They can see the ball to duck.[/quote]

    What about a throw coming in from the outfield?

  • JimV19 | September 2, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”345740″][quote comment=”345736″]”I suppose that players will get used to the extra bulk–not just batters but fielders as well. Fielders will have a larger target to tag but also a larger helmet to avoid hitting on a throw, not to mention a larger object to avoid when the helmet flies off a runner’s head.”

    So Jimmy Rollins is taking the throw as David Wright attempts to steal second, and what goes through Rollins’ mind is, “Jesus, look at the size of his HEAD!” ?[/quote]

    Look at the size of that boy’s heed. I’m not kidding, it’s like an orange on a toothpick. Well, that’s a huge noggin. That’s a virtual planetoid.Has it’s own weather system. HEAD! MOVE!

    I’m not kidding, that boy’s head is like Sputnik; spherical but quite pointy at parts! Now that was offside, wasn’t it? He’ll be crying himself to sleep tonight, on his huge pillow.[/quote]

    Excellent movie quote!

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”345742″][quote comment=”345738″][quote comment=”345706″][quote comment=”345687″][quote comment=”345678″]I think the S100 looks a lot less big and dorky if it has the double-earflaps. You’d think it’d be the opposite, but take a look at these pics that Paul linked to in his espn article:
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm4.static....

    I don’t think these look big at all, but I bet if you removed an earflap, they’d look big and stupid.[/quote]

    I was thinking the same thing when I was reading that article. The missing/additional ear flap makes a hugh difference.[/quote]

    I always wondered why they didn’t just have everybody wear the double flaps in the first place. If you’re a baserunner, wouldn’t you want ear protection from a line drive or a stray throw?

    [/quote]

    A right handed batter’s helmet already has the earflap facing the batter while running the bases.

    Unless you’re running the wrong way, so the Natinals may need double flaps…

    The other thing is the baserunners are paying attention to the play on every pitch. They can see the ball to duck.[/quote]

    What about a throw coming in from the outfield?[/quote]

    Probably guys will be slower because of all the additional wind resistence, too, huh. Cuz, y’know, I remember when they tried swimmer’s helmets to avoid brain injuries during flip turns times went WAY up.

    (snickers)

  • JohnnyO | September 2, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    Does anyone here watch Big Brother on CBS? A few weeks ago there was a Head of Household competition that had to deal with golfing. They dressed all the house guests in Loud Mouth Golf pants. I don’t have any pictures, nor did the show reference LMG, but you can clearly tell they are the same pants Big John Daly has been wearing. Here is a video from the show, it is quite lengthy, but you can see the majority of the pants within the first 20 sec. or so.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • leon | September 2, 2009 at 2:01 pm |

    Helmet, schmelmet

    http://www.baseballc...

  • Teebz | September 2, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”345741″][quote comment=”345733″][quote comment=”345729″][quote comment=”345727″][quote comment=”345724″]David Wright’s new helmet has a very “Great Gazoo” quality to it. A similar type of retrofitted helmet for an athlete coming back from a concussion was used back in the early 1990s by a member of the Buffalo Bills whose name escapes me, wore an over-sized, safety foam lined version in the 1993 Super Bowl against Dallas. It didn’t help. The Bills all probably felt like they had a concussion after the beating they took by Dallas that day![/quote]

    I swear, doesn’t anyone read my ESPN stuff??[/quote]
    Pffft. When was that? All the way back in August? Who can remember that far back?[/quote]

    Didn’t this site start on September 1? LOL[/quote]
    Actually, I didn’t get the heads-up e-mail when that column was posted, so I wasn’t even aware of it until it was mentioned in yesterday’s blog entry.[/quote]

    JTH, you’re killing me. LOL

  • T.J. Leibowitz | September 2, 2009 at 2:13 pm |

    RE: S100

    I remember about four years ago when I moved up to Pony from Little League, I kept a facemask on my helmet. I didn’t mind it, but my teammates sure did; they gave me an endless amount of crap for it.

    Three games in, our stud clean-up hitter (coincidentally, the head coach’s son) got popped in the face with an errant curve ball.

    There were a lot of guys who wanted to borrow my helmet that night…

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”345745″]Does anyone here watch Big Brother on CBS? A few weeks ago there was a Head of Household competition that had to deal with golfing. They dressed all the house guests in Loud Mouth Golf pants. I don’t have any pictures, nor did the show reference LMG, but you can clearly tell they are the same pants Big John Daly has been wearing. Here is a video from the show, it is quite lengthy, but you can see the majority of the pants within the first 20 sec. or so.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Perfectly understandable. Almost from the moment it debuted, BIG BROTHER clearly was a program concerning people of impeccable taste. Everything about it shows a clear grasp of the universal notion that restraint and subtlety are the benchmarks of poise.

    Well, except for Flavor Flav’s show, which was even classier.

    —Ricko

  • Dwayne | September 2, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”345681″]Players won’t wear these because they look ridiculous(picture one on Ryan Howard?!) and most likely would effect hitting.[/quote]

    Sorry, ahh…no.

    They wear their pants so low that the are under the heel of their shoes.

    They look ridiculous and they still wear them like that.

  • JTH | September 2, 2009 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”345747″][quote comment=”345741″][quote comment=”345733″][quote comment=”345729″][quote comment=”345727″][quote comment=”345724″]David Wright’s new helmet has a very “Great Gazoo” quality to it. A similar type of retrofitted helmet for an athlete coming back from a concussion was used back in the early 1990s by a member of the Buffalo Bills whose name escapes me, wore an over-sized, safety foam lined version in the 1993 Super Bowl against Dallas. It didn’t help. The Bills all probably felt like they had a concussion after the beating they took by Dallas that day![/quote]

    I swear, doesn’t anyone read my ESPN stuff??[/quote]
    Pffft. When was that? All the way back in August? Who can remember that far back?[/quote]

    Didn’t this site start on September 1? LOL[/quote]
    Actually, I didn’t get the heads-up e-mail when that column was posted, so I wasn’t even aware of it until it was mentioned in yesterday’s blog entry.[/quote]

    JTH, you’re killing me. LOL[/quote]
    Hey, just playing devil’s advocate, giving people the benefit of the doubt, et cetera, et cetera.

  • Dwayne | September 2, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”345714″][quote comment=”345712″]
    Anyone who’s ever pitched knows generally you throw at a guy’s head to scare the shit out of him. If you really wanna drill him, you throw at the armpit facing you. Much more likely to actually hit him if you aim there. That’s why, if you notice, most times the “retaliation” pitch burrows into the hitter’s ribs or back.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I have to disagree.

    As a pitcher from age 8 up until I was 42 years old playing Senior League Baseball, if you are going to drill/plunk somebody, you DO NOT throw at their upper or lower bodies.

    If you are going to plunk somebody, you throw at their hips. Because the legs and arms can get out of the way quicker than the hips can because the hips are the center of the body.

    Why do you think that when you are taught pursuit on defense in football, you are taught to watch the hips?

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”345752″][quote comment=”345714″][quote comment=”345712″]
    Anyone who’s ever pitched knows generally you throw at a guy’s head to scare the shit out of him. If you really wanna drill him, you throw at the armpit facing you. Much more likely to actually hit him if you aim there. That’s why, if you notice, most times the “retaliation” pitch burrows into the hitter’s ribs or back.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I have to disagree.

    As a pitcher from age 8 up until I was 42 years old playing Senior League Baseball, if you are going to drill/plunk somebody, you DO NOT throw at their upper or lower bodies.

    If you are going to plunk somebody, you throw at their hips. Because the legs and arms can get out of the way quicker than the hips can because the hips are the center of the body.

    Why do you think that when you are taught pursuit on defense in football, you are taught to watch the hips?[/quote]

    Whatever works. The point was, if the object is simply to hit a guy, you don’t throw at his head. On that we seem to agree. I’d aim at the armpit toward me, figuring when a hitter backs up he tends to bend at the waist a bit, and shoulders are sometimes the last thing to move. Hey, as long as you hit him when you intended to, right? LOL

    (Parenthetically, on football defense we were taught to watch the stomach. Can fake a little with hips, tough to fake with stomach. Again, tomato, toMAHto…just same thing taught in slightly different ways).

    —Ricko

  • Mike | September 2, 2009 at 2:55 pm |

    speaking of sixers, has anyone heard of the official 76ers jersey unveiling date?

  • ATLShaun | September 2, 2009 at 2:56 pm |

    I do believe that the memo line for the Check to the IRS contains Cliff’s Social Security #… i think that is a bit personal, no?

  • LI Phil | September 2, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”345755″]I do believe that the memo line for the Check to the IRS contains Cliff’s Social Security #… i think that is a bit personal, no?[/quote]

    it’s ok…he’s got teh lifelock

  • ATLShaun | September 2, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”345756″][quote comment=”345755″]I do believe that the memo line for the Check to the IRS contains Cliff’s Social Security #… i think that is a bit personal, no?[/quote]

    it’s ok…he’s got teh lifelock[/quote]

    haha…Man keeps up with his WNBA

  • LarryB | September 2, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    I messed around with that Oregon pick your uniform page. That is fun

  • mark | September 2, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    i thought oregon was keeping the yellow pants…that’s disappointing

  • mike 2 | September 2, 2009 at 3:45 pm |

    I see from the ESPN page that the S100 weighs half as much again as the standard helmet (22 oz vs. 15 oz).

    My personal prediction – you’re going to see players complaining about the weight, and you’re going to see players who wear the S100 to bat using the standard helmet as a “baserunning” helmet. You’ll see the batboys racing back and forth across the diamond changing helmets after base hits.

    Oh, and Welcome Back UniWatch!

  • rpm | September 2, 2009 at 3:47 pm |

    does anyone in chicagoland want to curl? i am joining an unidentified poster(he can out himself), at the curling centre for a “how to” in a month. i have wanted to do this for years. maybe from there a team, and then the olympics. i’ll make the jerseys. i thinks my curling name will be buzz, no! moose, definitely moose. jim mothervilker, can you coach us? you can map out our strategy in miniature. i am so excited, pass the ritalin.

  • JimV19 | September 2, 2009 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”345761″]does anyone in chicagoland want to curl? i am joining an unidentified poster(he can out himself), at the curling centre for a “how to” in a month. i have wanted to do this for years. maybe from there a team, and then the olympics. i’ll make the jerseys. i thinks my curling name will be buzz, no! moose, definitely moose. jim mothervilker, can you coach us? you can map out our strategy in miniature. i am so excited, pass the ritalin.[/quote]

    You lucky duck, robert! I wish I was closer so I could join in the fun. While I get out the mini curling set, here’s a little inspiration: http://www.youtube.c...
    Good luck, Moose!

  • NinerStripes | September 2, 2009 at 3:58 pm |

    Seeking some help from helmet afficianados…Making a 1980’s 49ers helmet, but having a hard time with the paint color. Does anybody know what the paint code is? Or a dead ringer spray paint color? I’ve bought like six or seven varieties of gold and no luck. Thinking I might take it to the local auto body shop and have them mix me some if i can get an official color or pantone number or something useful like that. Your help is appreciated…

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”345763″]Seeking some help from helmet afficianados…Making a 1980’s 49ers helmet, but having a hard time with the paint color. Does anybody know what the paint code is? Or a dead ringer spray paint color? I’ve bought like six or seven varieties of gold and no luck. Thinking I might take it to the local auto body shop and have them mix me some if i can get an official color or pantone number or something useful like that. Your help is appreciated…[/quote]

    These might help (they’re huge, so you can read them)…
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm3.static....

    From NFL Style Guide, dated 2/91.

    —Ricko

  • Will B. | September 2, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    Georgia State, who is fielding a varsity football program next season, unveiled a new logo.

    It’s definitely an upgrade but that’s about the nicest thing I have to say about it.

    Looks like it was designed by Eric Rickabaugh.

  • CMP | September 2, 2009 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”345678″]I think the S100 looks a lot less big and dorky if it has the double-earflaps. You’d think it’d be the opposite, but take a look at these pics that Paul linked to in his espn article:
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm4.static....

    I don’t think these look big at all, but I bet if you removed an earflap, they’d look big and stupid.[/quote]

    Came in to post the same thing. Couldn’t agree more.

  • JTH | September 2, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”345762″][quote comment=”345761″]does anyone in chicagoland want to curl? i am joining an unidentified poster(he can out himself), at the curling centre for a “how to” in a month. i have wanted to do this for years. maybe from there a team, and then the olympics. i’ll make the jerseys. i thinks my curling name will be buzz, no! moose, definitely moose. jim mothervilker, can you coach us? you can map out our strategy in miniature. i am so excited, pass the ritalin.[/quote]

    You lucky duck, robert! I wish I was closer so I could join in the fun. While I get out the mini curling set, here’s a little inspiration: http://www.youtube.c...
    Good luck, Moose![/quote]
    Chicago Curling Club’s Lear2Curl (located in Northbrook, of course) is the place to be. You can sign up here.

    Robert and I are signed up for the Nov. 1 session.

  • Mark K | September 2, 2009 at 5:17 pm |

    I tried curling for a couple of sessions. What an odd group of people that was. Worse than this place!

  • Teebz | September 2, 2009 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”345768″][quote comment=”345762″][quote comment=”345761″]does anyone in chicagoland want to curl? i am joining an unidentified poster(he can out himself), at the curling centre for a “how to” in a month. i have wanted to do this for years. maybe from there a team, and then the olympics. i’ll make the jerseys. i thinks my curling name will be buzz, no! moose, definitely moose. jim mothervilker, can you coach us? you can map out our strategy in miniature. i am so excited, pass the ritalin.[/quote]

    You lucky duck, robert! I wish I was closer so I could join in the fun. While I get out the mini curling set, here’s a little inspiration: http://www.youtube.c...
    Good luck, Moose![/quote]
    Chicago Curling Club’s Lear2Curl (located in Northbrook, of course) is the place to be. You can sign up here.

    Robert and I are signed up for the Nov. 1 session.[/quote]

    If the commute wasn’t such a pain in the rear, I’ve not only curled before, but played with a couple of former World Junior Curling Champions.

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”345770″][quote comment=”345768″][quote comment=”345762″][quote comment=”345761″]does anyone in chicagoland want to curl? i am joining an unidentified poster(he can out himself), at the curling centre for a “how to” in a month. i have wanted to do this for years. maybe from there a team, and then the olympics. i’ll make the jerseys. i thinks my curling name will be buzz, no! moose, definitely moose. jim mothervilker, can you coach us? you can map out our strategy in miniature. i am so excited, pass the ritalin.[/quote]

    You lucky duck, robert! I wish I was closer so I could join in the fun. While I get out the mini curling set, here’s a little inspiration: http://www.youtube.c...
    Good luck, Moose![/quote]
    Chicago Curling Club’s Lear2Curl (located in Northbrook, of course) is the place to be. You can sign up here.

    Robert and I are signed up for the Nov. 1 session.[/quote]

    If the commute wasn’t such a pain in the rear, I’ve not only curled before, but played with a couple of former World Junior Curling Champions.[/quote]

    Uni Watchers On Ice?
    Somewhere some smartass is snorting, “There’s a surprise.”

    lol

    —Ricko

  • ATLShaun | September 2, 2009 at 6:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”345766″]Georgia State, who is fielding a varsity football program next season, unveiled a new logo.

    It’s definitely an upgrade but that’s about the nicest thing I have to say about it.

    Looks like it was designed by Eric Rickabaugh.[/quote]

    Funny… i go to Georgia State, and the bookstore has been flooded by “official” NCAA game balls with the old GSU logo https://www.appfan.c...

  • u2-horn | September 2, 2009 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”345708″]
    Agree. I don’t think the typical MLB pitcher is standing on the mound thinking, “What can I do to get my ass thrown out of this game?”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, Vicente Padilla is not your typical MLB pitcher…

  • ATLShaun | September 2, 2009 at 7:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”345773″][quote comment=”345708″]
    Agree. I don’t think the typical MLB pitcher is standing on the mound thinking, “What can I do to get my ass thrown out of this game?”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Well, Vicente Padilla is not your typical MLB pitcher…[/quote]

    guy called mesa comes to mind…

  • interlockingtc | September 2, 2009 at 8:07 pm |

    Those old basketball jerseys are so spectacular.

    The Southern California is supreme beauty.

    Love the Seventy Sixers script.

    And there will never be anything quite as magnificent as… “FLY”.

  • =bg= | September 2, 2009 at 9:42 pm |

    When I saw that huge helmet, the first thing I thought of was the cap Charlie Brown wears, how big it is.

    Gonna pull up Google Earth to see if I can see Wright’s head from space.

  • carlos fenny | September 2, 2009 at 10:07 pm |

    here is another site that I like better to show the Chicago Cows on Parade

    http://ignarski.trip...

  • Bill | September 2, 2009 at 10:32 pm |

    Which of Teddy’s teammates took the Spanish test for him?

  • Ricko | September 2, 2009 at 10:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”345778″]Which of Teddy’s teammates took the Spanish test for him?[/quote]

    Don’t know, but I’ll bet Jeb took it for W.

  • Collin | September 3, 2009 at 12:26 am |

    Paul — I understand that the viewing angle certainly alters the perception of the S100, but, I mean… c’mon. I know David Wright is the chosen one and all, but this looks ridiculous.

    Oh, and welcome back! ;)

  • Mike N. | September 3, 2009 at 12:48 am |

    About this time last year, the Georgia Tech athletics store (ramblinwreckstore.com) was flooded with replica football jerseys with the ‘old gold’ color from Russell Athletic. Now if you visit the site, the jerseys they are selling appear to have reverted back to ‘Vegas gold’.

    See here

    Anybody have any insight on if GA Tech football has changed their colors again? I also thought it was curious that the football team was the only athletic sport at Georgia Tech to use ‘old gold’ last year, while all others remained with the Vegas gold scheme. I was waiting for the basketball team to come out with an old gold uni (similar to Missouri), but it never happened.

    Is Georgia Tech the last school in the nation to have never standardized and interpreted what exact color shade that they will use across all of their athletic programs?

  • Jeff P | September 3, 2009 at 1:38 am |

    [quote comment=”345781″]About this time last year, the Georgia Tech athletics store (ramblinwreckstore.com) was flooded with replica football jerseys with the ‘old gold’ color from Russell Athletic. Now if you visit the site, the jerseys they are selling appear to have reverted back to ‘Vegas gold’.

    See here

    Anybody have any insight on if GA Tech football has changed their colors again? I also thought it was curious that the football team was the only athletic sport at Georgia Tech to use ‘old gold’ last year, while all others remained with the Vegas gold scheme. I was waiting for the basketball team to come out with an old gold uni (similar to Missouri), but it never happened.

    Is Georgia Tech the last school in the nation to have never standardized and interpreted what exact color shade that they will use across all of their athletic programs?[/quote]

    Wow, Vegas gold looks horrible with white. So does the Old gold IMO, but my opinion on that has been established.

    The vegas gold is particularly horrible though. Looks great on the penguins though.

  • JR Boucicaut | September 3, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”345692″]Without going into a long discussion of it, I’ll just say that the S100 does look ridiculous. I don’t really mind though, It is a lot better in terms of protection. But the Rawlings guys should have talked to the Hockey equipment guys- who have a competitive market, and if they want to make an ultra protective helmet have to make it comfortable and low profile for it to sell. There are several hockey helmets that are just or nearly as protective, but much less puffy.

    IE, this.

    The key is to use denser gel padding and denser VN foam instead of the puffy comfy stuff Rawlings used, as seen here. Notice the EPP, which is the main protective element of each helmet, is just as thick as in the S100.

    Next time, the Rawlings guys should give the guys who’ve been doing the highly protective helmet thing much longer then they have a call.[/quote]

    Jeff – WOAH!

    LOL I took that picture of myself when the 9500 came out, in the sales meeting with my rep at the time. Hell, it was strictly to see if the helmet passed the mirror test…man I miss the beard…

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