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The Power of Forbidden Fruit, or Just a Coinkydink?

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Reader Michael Kotler has noticed something really interesting going on in Japanese baseball. I’ll let him explain:

As we all know, MLB players can’t wear the number 42 (besides Mariano). But I’ve noticed that in Japan, a lot of foreign players wear 42. I looked into and it seems there are six foreigners wearing it: Marcus Gwyn of the Rakuten Golden Eagles; Marc Kroon of the Tokyo Giants; Tom Mastny of the Yokohama Baystars; Tony Blanco of the Chunichi Dragons; Brian Sweeney of the Nippon Ham Fighters; and Jonah Bayliss of the Seibu Lions.

Six players may not sound like much, but there are only 12 teams in Japan, and each team is only allowed to have four foreigners on its roster. So having one of the four players foreign players on half of the teams wearing 42 seems a little odd.

Is it just that most of these players wore 42 when they were young and wanted to continue it? Is it that they just want to wear 42 because they know they couldn’t back in the States (all except Blanco are American)? Is it that they all want to honor Jackie Robinson (which I think would be pretty cool)? Or is it just a ridiculous coincidence?

Good questions. One question that immediately came to mind was whether any of the six other Japanese teams had a Japanese player wearing No. 42. So I asked Kotler that, and he said and he promptly reported that four of the six have 42s on the roster: the Hanshin Tigers, Toyo Carp, Yakult Swallows, and Chiba Lotte Marines.

So the situation is this: Ten players in Japan wear No. 42, and six of them are non-Japanese players. Hmmmm. Mark in Shiga, Jeremy Brahm, and our other Japanese baseball experts, can any of you shed any light on this?

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182 comments to The Power of Forbidden Fruit, or Just a Coinkydink?

  • floormaster squeeze | August 11, 2009 at 8:03 am |

    Tim Crispy aka \”Big Nips\” video \”I Like Jerseys\” (you can tell he is a Packer fan because they are well represented and Favre jersey receives a treatment that is not the label).

    http://www.youtube.c...

    This is a total tangent but the beer coozy shown in the video (Algoma Penguins) brings back my biggest sports wear regret. I had my mother on the lookout at yard/garage/rummage/tag sales for vintage stuff and one time she came up huge. She bought a beautiful Algoma Penguins warm-up jacket for me. It had all the earmarks of a classic baseball warm-up jacket in red with black and tan trim. But the kicker was that it had a beautifully sewn embroidered penguin over the breast. It was also 3-D and I have seen little like it since–it was puffed up with fabric to create a penguin body and it was executed flawlessly. Unfortunately it was also a men\’s small so it would never fit me. I was moving a few years later and had a few people over and was randomly giving stuff to people and gave it to a woman it would fit well. (It turns out another woman there that day would bring up the jacket relentlessly to the woman I gave it to and I heard eventually she wore the other woman down and she probably has it in storage some where).

  • CJ | August 11, 2009 at 8:07 am |

    Those Real Valladolid kits are positively garish. Made even worse by the stupid Puma collarbone design trim thing. It looks okay on plain shirts, but when it interrupts stripes it looks stupid.

    Of course when those stripes are purple and black, you’re already pretty low on the looks scale.

  • Sam Allison | August 11, 2009 at 8:12 am |

    Being a Mountaineer, I HATE Pitt…but I will say those new unis are really nice. Huge improvement over their old ones, especially that crappy number font they’ve used in the recent past. Now all they need to do is to bring back the cursive Pitt logo and they’ll be good to go.

  • Jason Shane | August 11, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    Michael Kotler, Mark in Shiga, Jeremy Brahm, and our other Japanese baseball experts:

    What’s the best website to get daily news, boxscores, game recaps, etc. for Japanese baseball? I’ve been wondering this for long time, but have never been able to find a reliable news source for Japanese baseball.

  • Jeremy Brahm | August 11, 2009 at 8:52 am |

    Actually, out of the Japanese #42s currently, only one of those players is not a pitcher.

    Kroon wearing #42 as a tribute to Robinson I could see.

    Here is an article, which is similar to what was asked.

    http://atypicallife....

    In my opinion, it is probably the following, a player joins a new team (foreigner in this case) and he has no idea what numbers are available. What number you like to wear? I wore 27 in the States, well our star player wears that. What do you have left? Pitchers tend to have higher numbers a number in the 40s looks fine for a pitcher. Not saying the 20s isn’t bad either, but Tom Seaver (#41) anyone?

  • RobT | August 11, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    [quote comment=”345090″]Michael Kotler, Mark in Shiga, Jeremy Brahm, and our other Japanese baseball experts:

    What’s the best website to get daily news, boxscores, game recaps, etc. for Japanese baseball? I’ve been wondering this for long time, but have never been able to find a reliable news source for Japanese baseball.[/quote]

    Another question for our Japanese baseball wing, what is a good site for buying hats, jerseys etc.? I have tried to find American sized ones and keep coming up empty from the official sites. Apparently, New Era cannot sell me NPB hats from the US, as I tried emailing them. So any ideas?

    Also, does anyone have any pictures of the Eastern and Western League teams’ uniforms not named after their NPB clubs? I tried to find some and either their names are in Japanese on their websites or I misspelt the English versions.

  • Jeremy Brahm | August 11, 2009 at 8:57 am |

    [quote comment=”345090″]Michael Kotler, Mark in Shiga, Jeremy Brahm, and our other Japanese baseball experts:

    What’s the best website to get daily news, boxscores, game recaps, etc. for Japanese baseball? I’ve been wondering this for long time, but have never been able to find a reliable news source for Japanese baseball.[/quote]

    http://japanesebaseb...

    Michael Westbay’s been running this site for like 10 years now. It is the best place to start. Plus he’ll even translate articles from the Japanese sports dailies to provide additional information that you may not find in the English papers.

    Don’t forget the Japan Times and Daily Yomiuri papers. They have game reports for each day and a couple of columns on what is happening every week.

    http://www.japantime...
    http://www.yomiuri.c...

  • Jeremy Brahm | August 11, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment=”345092″][quote comment=”345090″]Michael Kotler, Mark in Shiga, Jeremy Brahm, and our other Japanese baseball experts:

    What’s the best website to get daily news, boxscores, game recaps, etc. for Japanese baseball? I’ve been wondering this for long time, but have never been able to find a reliable news source for Japanese baseball.[/quote]

    Another question for our Japanese baseball wing, what is a good site for buying hats, jerseys etc.? I have tried to find American sized ones and keep coming up empty from the official sites. Apparently, New Era cannot sell me NPB hats from the US, as I tried emailing them. So any ideas?

    Also, does anyone have any pictures of the Eastern and Western League teams’ uniforms not named after their NPB clubs? I tried to find some and either their names are in Japanese on their websites or I misspelt the English versions.[/quote]

    RobT, it is really difficult to get the right sizes for replica Japanese uniforms in the States. As you can see in my picture.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    This was the biggest size available, which is called an XO and it is still incredibly tight. If you get an authentic uniform, those are much more expensive ($350 or more) and you can rarely find those in the States.

    Yakyu shop is one of the few, but I know that they do about as good as they can.

    http://www.yakyushop...

    If you are thin, buy the replica uniform, if you are a bigger guy, go to Japan to buy the authentics, which may take a little more time and let alone cost. Plus you would need to visit the team store to buy them. Most retailers only sell the replicas. The uniform that you see is a replica that a friend of mine bought for me in Japan.

  • Dave Sterling | August 11, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    Is there really a david cummings?

    i submitted the cleveland browns link, and my name is David Sterling

  • Teebz | August 11, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    Those cuff links are neat, but I’m not a cuff link guy. Sorry, Paul.

    I emailed the guy selling the Cuban baseball posters yesterday, though. He said that he would combine shipping for all posters bought, meaning that the $12 for shipping can be spread over three or four posters. YAY!

    I’m gonna go take a better look at those now.

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    [quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell

  • Dave Sterling | August 11, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.

  • mmwatkin | August 11, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”345097″][quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell[/quote]

    I would bet that it is less of a “freedom of speech” issue and more of a “we don’t want a shit storm from people with nothing better to do than complain about a comic strip” issue.

  • David | August 11, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”345095″]Is there really a david cummings?

    i submitted the cleveland browns link, and my name is David Sterling[/quote]

    Hey David Sterling, it’s David Cummings. Been submitting Browns/Blackhawks stuff to this site for a long time. Maybe I just got mine in first? Dunno. It’s happened to me where I’ve submitted something before and someone else got the credit. All good. You a Browns fan? Where you located? I am in NYC.

    D

  • Beardface | August 11, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer

  • Jordan | August 11, 2009 at 9:45 am |

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  • Pete in Portsmouth | August 11, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    I thought that Tank McNamara was hysterical.

  • Mark in Shiga | August 11, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    I’m flattered to be mentioned by name in the post today!

    And I can answer the question, too!

    The Japanese language contains two series of number words, one native, and one adopted from Chinese. The native one goes like this: 1 hitotsu, 2 futatsu, 3 mittsu, 4 yottsu, 5 itsutsu, 6 muttsu, 7 nanatsu, 8 yattsu, 9 kokonotsu, 10 to. The Chinese-based one is: 1 ichi, 2 ni, 3 san, 4 shi, 5 go, 6 roku, 7 shichi, 8 hachi, 9 kyu (or ku), 10 ju.

    They also love numerical puns and associations, and the language (in part because they adopted many Chinese words about 1500 years ago without adopting Chinese tones) contains a huge number of homophones.

    One of the biggest ones, looking at those number words, is that the word shi (死), meaning “death”, sounds like the number 4 (四). Four is the unluckiest number because of this, and so many Japanese people like to avoid 4, whereas foreign athletes wouldn’t have a problem with it. A double-four is worse, but for American imports it’s just the number of Hank Aaron and Reggie Jackson, so many foreign players have worn it. The Hanshin Tigers alone have had George Altman, Lance Parrish, Cecil Fielder, and Randy Bass.

    Similarly, the word ku can mean both “9” (九) and “pain” (苦). So number 49 is avoided by Japanese players, whereas Americans like Warren Cromartie don’t mind it.

    The number 42 brings to mind shi-ni, part of the conjugation for another form of the word “to die”, so it too is unlucky. But not for the imports, such as, in addition to the players mentioned above, Alex Cabrera, Julio Zuleta, Dan Serafini, and Brian Sikorsky.

    Here’s a Japanese-language page where a blogger compares Japan’s “unlucky 42” with Western culture’s “unlucky 13”: http://homepage3.nif... (The player pictured at the top, Tsugio, is a Japanese-Brazilian.)

    I wouldn’t discount the idea of players choosing it because of Robinson. No matter what your ethnicity, a foreign person in Japan (even a rich ballplayer) is going to endure a bit of discrimination from time to time. I’m guessing that a few of them get a renewed appreciation for what Robinson had to endure, and like having his number. I’m happy to see so many people choosing it.

  • Marc M. | August 11, 2009 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”345097″][quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell[/quote]

    “Freedom of speech” only pertains to the government censoring a citizen, whereas a private company like the Post can do whatever they like in that area.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    Likewise, your expectation of privacy exists only in relationship to the government. Your employer, for example, can dig into just about anything they want…in their workplace or relating to it.

    So watch those emails. ; )

    —Ricko

  • Brandon | August 11, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    Paul that diamond studded first base coach, George Hendrick, could be considered your arch enemy. I can’t prove this, but I know that I have heard on national broadcasts that Hendrick was one of the first players that went anti-stirrup by wearing his pants long during his playing days.

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    Mark in Shiga:
    Excellent comment!

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”345105″][quote comment=”345097″][quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell[/quote]

    “Freedom of speech” only pertains to the government censoring a citizen, whereas a private company like the Post can do whatever they like in that area.[/quote]

    oh, i’m well aware of that…my local rag has censored doonesbury in the past; no such luck with garfield or mallard

    my question (tho paul’s was equally pertinent) is on what grounds does the post feel justified in pulling the strip…”because they can” isn’t really the answer i was searching for…

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    No comments yet on Merlyn Mantle dying at age 77?

  • M.Princip | August 11, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?

  • Jeff P | August 11, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    That’s why I wear it on my hockey team…

  • M.Princip | August 11, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    Sorry, that’s Jack Davis.

  • Hott Rodd | August 11, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”345109″][quote comment=”345105″][quote comment=”345097″][quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell[/quote]

    “Freedom of speech” only pertains to the government censoring a citizen, whereas a private company like the Post can do whatever they like in that area.[/quote]

    oh, i’m well aware of that…my local rag has censored doonesbury in the past; no such luck with garfield or mallard

    my question (tho paul’s was equally pertinent) is on what grounds does the post feel justified in pulling the strip…”because they can” isn’t really the answer i was searching for…[/quote]

    Besides that they are still in denial about Dick being pure evil?

  • Justin | August 11, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    Last week, I had the chance to take a hard hat tour of Target Field, the future home of the Minnesota Twins.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”345109″] is on what grounds does the post feel justified in pulling the strip…”because they can” isn’t really the answer i was searching for…[/quote]Maybe the “local” angle; Vick residing in Virginia or thereabouts. Maybe they don’t want any negative publicity if someone actually does take a potshot at him. (Of course, take a potshot without a “Washington Bullet” in this hypothetical gun.)

  • Paul Lukas | August 11, 2009 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”345109″][quote comment=”345105″][quote comment=”345097″][quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell[/quote]

    “Freedom of speech” only pertains to the government censoring a citizen, whereas a private company like the Post can do whatever they like in that area.[/quote]

    oh, i’m well aware of that…my local rag has censored doonesbury in the past; no such luck with garfield or mallard

    my question (tho paul’s was equally pertinent) is on what grounds does the post feel justified in pulling the strip…”because they can” isn’t really the answer i was searching for…[/quote]

    Actually, “because they can” is precisely the answer. There’s no mandate or imperative — First Amendment-wise or otherwise — to publish a cartoon. Newspaper editors make value judgments every day in terms of what they feel is and isn’t appropriate to run in their papers. Sometimes it involves staff-created material, sometimes it involves syndicated material. That’s not censorship; it’s editorial evaluation. Now, you may think a given evaluation is stupid, but that doesn’t mean it’s morally, ethically, or professionally wrong.

  • Hott Rodd | August 11, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”345109″][quote comment=”345105″][quote comment=”345097″][quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell[/quote]

    “Freedom of speech” only pertains to the government censoring a citizen, whereas a private company like the Post can do whatever they like in that area.[/quote]

    oh, i’m well aware of that…my local rag has censored doonesbury in the past; no such luck with garfield or mallard

    my question (tho paul’s was equally pertinent) is on what grounds does the post feel justified in pulling the strip…”because they can” isn’t really the answer i was searching for…[/quote]

    My actual answer would be that they choose what to print. No newspaper is an unbiased, unslanted publication. I do not read the washington post, but I would imagine that if the editors decided that comic hits too close to home, or as the writer said, the satire was not immediately apparent to those who still drink the haliburton kool-aid, then yeah they can yank the strip. Once again they are a private company, and I am sure that it is within the guidelines of their agreement to run the strip that they have discretion when it comes these issues. As is pointed out in the article, they are subbing it with a syndication approved archived strip.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    Pretty sure newspapers have the right to not run a strip based on “inappropriate content” or something. They can’t edit a strip, but they can opt to run it or not run it on any given day.

    Besides, I thought it was a stretch. Wasn’t sure if it was a comment on Dick, Vick or both.

    Although I’m probably the last one who should be commenting on a comic strip, other than to say I think most of them today work too hard at being “insightful, profound, topical…” whatever. That approach costs them a light-hearted attitude that I think is necessary for a strip to work.

    But that’s just me.

    —Ricko

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    The Post placed Doonesbury in its op-ed pages years ago, I suppose because it expouses political opinions rather than the mindless dreck found in most “cartoons”. They treat it like Toles (and before him, Herblock) probably to avoid a lot of blowback from those who want their comics to be aimed at 7 year olds. (And for some reason, they place “Dilbert” in the Business section, allowing me to immediately trash the comics without opening it). But, happy 35th, Tank, I guess?

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Interesting timing. Just the other day found a Jack Davis TIME cover previewing Vikings-Raiders Super Bowl. Is sitting in a pile of “things to scan and email to Mike P.”.

    —Ricko

  • Peter | August 11, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    The NY Post IS a cartoon

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    sorry, that should have been “espouses”.

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”345123″]The NY Post IS a cartoon[/quote]

    that may be so, but we’re talking about the washington post

  • ClubMedSux | August 11, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    I love hot dogs, tattoos, and topless women, but this is still pretty freaky-deaky…

    If that tattoo was intended to be some sort of Chicagoan purity test then I passed because my immediate reaction was “for the love of God, why the ketchup?”

  • Peter | August 11, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    my bad, came in too late on this…(it’s what happens when I go over the thread too quickly while @ work)

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”345119″]Pretty sure newspapers have the right to not run a strip based on “inappropriate content” or something. They can’t edit a strip, but they can opt to run it or not run it on any given day.

    Besides, I thought it was a stretch. Wasn’t sure if it was a comment on Dick, Vick or both.

    Although I’m probably the last one who should be commenting on a comic strip, other than to say I think most of them today work too hard at being “insightful, profound, topical…” whatever. That approach costs them a light-hearted attitude that I think is necessary for a strip to work.

    But that’s just me.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Whoa. Not saying strips shouldn’t make a serious, compelling point now and then, just talking about the manner of making those points.

    Thought I’d better clear that up.

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”345122″]sorry, that should have been “espouses”.[/quote]
    This is some sort of on-line dating site, isn’t it? E-Spouses?

    BTW Leon;- in the spirit of suggested numbers for people like Sonny Sixkiller and others, what number would be suggested for the WR Fair Hooker?

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”345127″]Besides, I thought it was a stretch. Wasn’t sure if it was a comment on Dick, Vick or both.[/quote]
    Throw Goddell’s name in there and you’ve captured my feelings. What is the point? Anti-Cheney, anti-Vick, anti-NFL…?

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 11:02 am |

    BTW Leon;- in the spirit of suggested numbers for people like Sonny Sixkiller and others, what number would be suggested for the WR Fair Hooker?[/quote]

    Whatever Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wore. (33?)
    :)

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 11:02 am |

    intersting…in the article accompanying the tank strip, one of the commenters stated:

    [quote]According to an article in today’s New York Times, there are 100 papers that run “Tank McNamara” on a regular basis.

    Of these 100 papers, the Post was the ONLY one that declined to run the series of strips in question.[/quote]

    i know that the post is often cited, along with NYT, as being an exemplar of liberal media bias…and of course, they did employ a couple of fellers named woodward & bernstein a few years back…

    just strikes me as odd that they’d yank the strip (if they did so because “it’s just not funny” then i have no argument)…but apparently not one other paper chose to do so

    im guessing they pulled it because of their sentiment towards vick, not dick

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”345128″][quote comment=”345122″]sorry, that should have been “espouses”.[/quote]
    This is some sort of on-line dating site, isn’t it? E-Spouses?

    BTW Leon;- in the spirit of suggested numbers for people like Sonny Sixkiller and others, what number would be suggested for the WR Fair Hooker?[/quote]

    Or former Georgia(?) guard Happy Dix?
    Indiana TE Brown Marks?
    Nebraska RB I.M. Hipp?
    Indiana WR Jade Butcher?
    Indiana WR Harry Gonso?

    (That Indiana team—coached by Lee Corso, btw—had some strange names)

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    Gonso was the QB. Sorry.

  • Hott Rodd | August 11, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”345132″][quote comment=”345128″][quote comment=”345122″]sorry, that should have been “espouses”.[/quote]
    This is some sort of on-line dating site, isn’t it? E-Spouses?

    BTW Leon;- in the spirit of suggested numbers for people like Sonny Sixkiller and others, what number would be suggested for the WR Fair Hooker?[/quote]

    Indiana TE Brown Marks?
    [/quote]

    i guess we know where the NFL’s Cleveland team came up with the idea for their new pants.

  • JTH | August 11, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”345131″]intersting…in the article accompanying the tank strip, one of the commenters stated:

    [quote]According to an article in today’s New York Times, there are 100 papers that run “Tank McNamara” on a regular basis.

    Of these 100 papers, the Post was the ONLY one that declined to run the series of strips in question.[/quote]

    i know that the post is often cited, along with NYT, as being an exemplar of liberal media bias…and of course, they did employ a couple of fellers named woodward & bernstein a few years back…

    just strikes me as odd that they’d yank the strip (if they did so because “it’s just not funny” then i have no argument)…but apparently not one other paper chose to do so

    im guessing they pulled it because of their sentiment towards vick, not dick[/quote]
    Does it strike anyone else as hypocritical/gutless that the Post put the kibosh on the print version of the comic, yet they seem to have no problem allowing one of the paper’s officially-sanctioned blogs provide readers a link to it?

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    Indiana TE Brown Marks? #2

    Nebraska RB I.M. Hipp? Anything in the 60’s

    :)

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”345135″]Does it strike anyone else as hypocritical/gutless that the Post put the kibosh on the print version of the comic, yet they seem to have no problem allowing one of the paper’s officially-sanctioned blogs provide readers a link to it?[/quote]We don’t want to lose ALL that business, do we? ;-)

    Seriously, its one thing to know that 80% of your sales area has no other PRINTED option to see the cartoon, but quite another thing to realize that 100% of your sales area has unlimited opportunities to see the cartoon on-line.

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”345130″]Whatever Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wore. (33?)[/quote]
    Who was that NFL Man of the Year who “found a new friend” the night before he was playing in the Super Bowl?? Did he play for Buffalo?

  • Steve | August 11, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    http://www.politicke...

    The Nets are changing their jerseys and getting rid of the “New Jersey” on the front. Some people aren’t happy about that.

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”345136″]Nebraska RB I.M. Hipp? Anything in the 60’s[/quote]
    I used to do drugs in the 60’s; now I don’t care what the temperature is.

    (I heard that one from Rodney Dangerfield, but others seem to have claimed it as their own.)

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”345117″][quote comment=”345109″][quote comment=”345105″][quote comment=”345097″][quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell[/quote]

    “Freedom of speech” only pertains to the government censoring a citizen, whereas a private company like the Post can do whatever they like in that area.[/quote]

    oh, i’m well aware of that…my local rag has censored doonesbury in the past; no such luck with garfield or mallard

    my question (tho paul’s was equally pertinent) is on what grounds does the post feel justified in pulling the strip…”because they can” isn’t really the answer i was searching for…[/quote]

    Actually, “because they can” is precisely the answer. There’s no mandate or imperative — First Amendment-wise or otherwise — to publish a cartoon. Newspaper editors make value judgments every day in terms of what they feel is and isn’t appropriate to run in their papers. Sometimes it involves staff-created material, sometimes it involves syndicated material. That’s not censorship; it’s editorial evaluation. Now, you may think a given evaluation is stupid, but that doesn’t mean it’s morally, ethically, or professionally wrong.[/quote]

    Exactly. In the same way, how many private businesses have this sign – “We reserve the right to refuse business to anyone.” I’ve seen it quite often.

    Besides, the Tank strip got it backward. I’d fear getting on the NFL’s bad side much more than getting on Mr. Cheney’s bad side…

  • stannate | August 11, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    I’m guessing by the uniform guide posted for the Las Vegas Locomotives, their style will be a template applied to the other three UFL teams?

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”345097″][quote]The larger question, of course, is why any installment of “Tank McNamara” is running in any newspaper, ever.[/quote]

    rhetorical question?

    i guess freedom of speech ends at the suggestion of murder…in a comic strip…tho i could certainly envision such a conversation taking place between cheney and goodell[/quote]

    Freedom of speech ends at yelling “Fire!” in a theatre when there is no fire, so I could see it ending with the suggestion of murder. Could run into libel problems, too, eh?

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    Who was that NFL Man of the Year who “found a new friend” the night before he was playing in the Super Bowl?? Did he play for Buffalo?

    You may be referring to Eugene Robinson, who, at the time played for the Falcons. In an interesting coincidence, there is an editorial writer for the Washington Post by that name. Neither man played for Buffalo.

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    Even before the whole Vick/Dick/Goodell thing, I’d rather read Benchies than Tank. Start submitting to the Post, Ricko!

  • M.Princip | August 11, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”345142″]I’m guessing by the uniform guide posted for the Las Vegas Locomotives, their style will be a template applied to the other three UFL teams?[/quote]

    That’s sad. I will say this, as someone mentioned, I do like the name; Locomotives.

  • stu | August 11, 2009 at 11:46 am |

    interesting Chris Cooley talking about the NFL dress codes and Fines this year

    http://chriscooley47...

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 11:48 am |

    A few other things:

    – I love the Sixers’ new floor. It’s better than the new unis.

    – I posted this late last night so I’ll ask again; I know I’m in the minority becasue I don’t think the LV Locomotives look that bad, but can we all agree they look better than some of the current NFL updated unis?

    – I miss the old-school blocking technique in that Broncos pic. I’m only 5-10 and in college I weighed about 170, but in our pickup football games I occasionally had to play the line. I always blocked old-school and kept some pretty big guys away from my QB. Why can’t today’s hulks do it?

    – Anyone else have flickr problems the last couple of days? Some pics from there have been taking a little longer for me. Just wondered if there was a flickr hackr out there.

  • Berto | August 11, 2009 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”345124″][quote comment=”345123″]The NY Post IS a cartoon[/quote]

    that may be so, but we’re talking about the washington post[/quote]

    Not getting the Washington Post is one of the things I miss most about leaving DC. Sigh.

  • bill | August 11, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”345110″]No comments yet on Merlyn Mantle dying at age 77?[/quote]

    Still digesting the news regarding Eunice Shriver. Merlyn endured an awful lot.

  • Wollen1 | August 11, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    Re: the Pitt uniforms- I’m happy to see a Nike design without crazy lines and squiggles everywhere. Is The Beast finally realizing the beauty of understatement?

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    Not getting the Washington Post is one of the things I miss most about leaving DC. Sigh.

    It may be like drinking lite beer Berto, but if you need to chip bad:

    http://www.washingto...

    Link provided by WPAA
    :)

  • Berto | August 11, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”345137″][quote comment=”345135″]Does it strike anyone else as hypocritical/gutless that the Post put the kibosh on the print version of the comic, yet they seem to have no problem allowing one of the paper’s officially-sanctioned blogs provide readers a link to it?[/quote]We don’t want to lose ALL that business, do we? ;-)

    Seriously, its one thing to know that 80% of your sales area has no other PRINTED option to see the cartoon, but quite another thing to realize that 100% of your sales area has unlimited opportunities to see the cartoon on-line.[/quote]

    If it becomes a story they know people can find it if they want it. So since it has become a story I don’t see any problem with them allowing one of their blogs to link to it. I don’t think they’re trying to hide it from the world. They chose not to print it. I don’t think it’s wrong to then show it in an explanation of why they chose not to print it.

  • Berto | August 11, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    “It may be like drinking lite beer”

    -F-ing close to water?

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.

  • jp | August 11, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko

  • Nick | August 11, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”345151″]Re: the Pitt uniforms- I’m happy to see a Nike design without crazy lines and squiggles everywhere. Is The Beast finally realizing the beauty of understatement?[/quote]

    Imagine how much better they would look if the Gold were 2-3 shades darker? Or even if they went back to the Marino-era “scripted-Pitt” dull Gold

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    So…what’s everyone gonna do during the UW hiatus?

    Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.

    I mean, seriously, I’ll have a LOT more time on my hands.

    —Ricko

  • M.Princip | August 11, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”345157″][quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’ve had a chance to pick them(Prolog) up from time to time, however, never did. I’ve glanced through a couple from the early eighties, yet, for some reason I felt everything I needed was in the Pro! issues, and that simply the Prolog was a review of that season? Maybe I should look further…..think I will.

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”345157″][quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Looking to sell or trade? I may be willing to part with my ’85 issue. How about Pro Quarterback? I have one of those from ’72. I always wondered what other issues were like.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”345159″]So…what’s everyone gonna do during the UW hiatus?

    Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.

    I mean, seriously, I’ll have a LOT more time on my hands.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    And, just for the hell of, I think I’ll turn another year older. Oh, like I have a choice on that one.

    –Ricko

  • M.Princip | August 11, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”345159″]So…what’s everyone gonna do during the UW hiatus?

    Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.

    I mean, seriously, I’ll have a LOT more time on my hands.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’ve arranged a little Dip(Diprivan) drip for the time off. So, when I awake after the Uniwatch hiatus, I’ll be none the wiser, or, dumber. Well, maybe a little dumber.

  • Nick | August 11, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”345139″]http://www.politickernj.com/max/32178/otoole-slams-nets-dropping-nj-uniforms-suggests-withholding-state-subsidies-teams-dont-sho#comment

    The Nets are changing their jerseys and getting rid of the “New Jersey” on the front.

    Some people aren’t happy about that.[/quote]

    Are the New jersey Nets the longest term lame duck team in the history of U.S. professional sports?

    Wasn’t it at least 5 years ago that the rappers and some gizzillionaire (Ratner, or someone with a similar name?)rannounced that they were building the Jay-Z Brooklyn Arena and that the Nets would eventually play there? Don’t we get updates on the progress of that arena evey 6 months or so.

    Why would a NJ fan have ANY interest in that mess?
    Didn’t the Nets just move to a newer arena in NJ? And soon after they now want the arena in Brooklyn?

    I don’t get it. Somebody fill me in.

    I feel like the Grandpa in “Moonstruck” that can’t figure out who ends up with who ….

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”345161″][quote comment=”345157″][quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Looking to sell or trade? I may be willing to part with my ’85 issue. How about Pro Quarterback? I have one of those from ’72. I always wondered what other issues were like.[/quote]

    I had a mess of Pro Quarterbacks (originally just “Quarterback”). Most have been dismembered and pieces are in my files. Think I kept #1 intact, though. Namath on cover, as I recall.

    Yup, Joe Willie. Think I may have that one in a bundle of mags somewhere.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”345160″][quote comment=”345157″][quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’ve had a chance to pick them(Prolog) up from time to time, however, never did. I’ve glanced through a couple from the early eighties, yet, for some reason I felt everything I needed was in the Pro! issues, and that simply the Prolog was a review of that season? Maybe I should look further…..think I will.[/quote]

    It’s worth it. There are some great full-page photos in the Prologs. I tried to post some yesterday that showed the Oilers’ and Chargers’ 25th anniversary patches, but I was having flickr problems.

  • timmy b | August 11, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”345159″]So…what’s everyone gonna do during the UW hiatus?

    Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.

    I mean, seriously, I’ll have a LOT more time on my hands.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Awwww Ricko…you’re the man!

  • Teebz | August 11, 2009 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”345162″][quote comment=”345159″]So…what’s everyone gonna do during the UW hiatus?

    Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.

    I mean, seriously, I’ll have a LOT more time on my hands.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    And, just for the hell of, I think I’ll turn another year older. Oh, like I have a choice on that one.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    While the site is on hiatus, we should get together on a Saturday or Sunday for this, Ricko. We can collaborate online if you like. :o)

  • M.Princip | August 11, 2009 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”345166″][quote comment=”345160″][quote comment=”345157″][quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’ve had a chance to pick them(Prolog) up from time to time, however, never did. I’ve glanced through a couple from the early eighties, yet, for some reason I felt everything I needed was in the Pro! issues, and that simply the Prolog was a review of that season? Maybe I should look further…..think I will.[/quote]

    It’s worth it. There are some great full-page photos in the Prologs. I tried to post some yesterday that showed the Oilers’ and Chargers’ 25th anniversary patches, but I was having flickr problems.[/quote]

    I’ve just initiated the hunt. Thanks.

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”345165″][quote comment=”345161″][quote comment=”345157″][quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Looking to sell or trade? I may be willing to part with my ’85 issue. How about Pro Quarterback? I have one of those from ’72. I always wondered what other issues were like.[/quote]

    I had a mess of Pro Quarterbacks (originally just “Quarterback”). Most have been dismembered and pieces are in my files. Think I kept #1 intact, though. Namath on cover, as I recall.

    Yup, Joe Willie. Think I may have that one in a bundle of mags somewhere.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I have the ’72 Super Bowl issue. Not in the greatest of shape, but it has lots of pics of the QBs they rated, and there’s a three-page color comic about Cosell, Gifford and Meredith being drafted to help out some team that looks a lot like the Giants. Not bad at all. I’m sure it’s hardly worth as much as that Namath issue, though.

  • JSS | August 11, 2009 at 12:42 pm |

    This version of the Pitt uniform post script era are by far the best. It is not even close IMO. No shadow lettering; a clean classic look and a better flat gold color. Stripes on the pants look great (though I’d love to see all versions of colors). Stripes on the helmet are ideal. I think they are finally realizing that less is certainly more and the clean look produces more revenue for the Dept. I agree there should be previously taken photos of the unis so that we can see them better. I’d love the script back, but these uniforms are certainly better than anything we’ve seen in the past 12 years. HTP and well done designers.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”345169″][quote comment=”345166″][quote comment=”345160″][quote comment=”345157″][quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’ve had a chance to pick them(Prolog) up from time to time, however, never did. I’ve glanced through a couple from the early eighties, yet, for some reason I felt everything I needed was in the Pro! issues, and that simply the Prolog was a review of that season? Maybe I should look further…..think I will.[/quote]

    It’s worth it. There are some great full-page photos in the Prologs. I tried to post some yesterday that showed the Oilers’ and Chargers’ 25th anniversary patches, but I was having flickr problems.[/quote]

    I’ve just initiated the hunt. Thanks.[/quote]

    Companion pub called “ProFile”, too, as I recall.
    One recapped previous season week by week and previewed each team.
    The other was features on individual players.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”345159″]So…what’s everyone gonna do during the UW hiatus?

    Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.

    I mean, seriously, I’ll have a LOT more time on my hands.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I figured I’d just read some books…

    Paul, I found one you might like – “Bowling Across America: Fifty States in Rented Shoes” by Mike Walsh.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    Bit of a bonanza here, possibly…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    And ProFile…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Cover’s a killer.

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”345174″]Bit of a bonanza here, possibly…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Dang, and I don’t have an account! I used to have two of the issues on the bottom. That Steelers one looks my-tee fine…

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”345162″][quote comment=”345159″]So…what’s everyone gonna do during the UW hiatus?

    Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.

    I mean, seriously, I’ll have a LOT more time on my hands.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    And, just for the hell of, I think I’ll turn another year older. Oh, like I have a choice on that one.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    i’ll probably work on some UW stuff…so if anyone else wants in on the “fixin the brewers” uniform piece…you know where to find me

    and on the 21st of august, i’ll sing a small chorus of ‘happy bday ricko’…

    i can just picture the scene in minnie

  • joe | August 11, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”345101″][quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer[/quote]

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”345176″][quote comment=”345174″]Bit of a bonanza here, possibly…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Dang, and I don’t have an account! I used to have two of the issues on the bottom. That Steelers one looks my-tee fine…[/quote]

    I’ve bought tons of stuff on ebay. Takes about five minute to set up ebay and PayPal accounts.
    Just sayin’.

    Of those shown, I have top row for sure, and I think bottom right.
    Have the Simpson “ProFile”, too.

  • joe | August 11, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”345101″][quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer[/quote]

    but what is the question?

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”345180″][quote comment=”345101″][quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer[/quote]

    but what is the question?[/quote]

    Some possibles…

    When Does Middle Age Begin?

    What Year in This Century Began With the Realization the Entire World Had Gone to War?

    What Was Paul Warfield’s Number?

    What Age Takes Twice As Long To Reach as 21, But Feels Twice As Fast?

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”345181″]What Year in This Century Began With the Realization the Entire World Had Gone to War?[/quote]
    This century?

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”345180″][quote comment=”345101″][quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer[/quote]

    but what is the question?[/quote]

    How Much Change Should You Absolutely Positively Not Withhold from Patrick Kane?

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”345182″][quote comment=”345181″]What Year in This Century Began With the Realization the Entire World Had Gone to War?[/quote]
    This century?[/quote]

    Oh, yeah, there was all that millennium bug stuff, wasn’t there. Forgot about that. As I said, gettin’ older by the minute.

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”345167″]Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.[/quote]
    Wow lazyass: cancer needs a cure too you know.

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”345183″]How Much Change Should You Absolutely Positively Not Withhold from Patrick Kane?[/quote]
    Twenty cents, twenty years old: there’s some sort of symmetry in there someplace.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”345185″][quote comment=”345167″]Me, I’m playing to quit smoking, eat better, get in shape, build the BENCHIES blog, start those damn 1960 AFL paintings, find photos of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys for Timmy B, make gobs of money and maybe find true love and work for world peace.[/quote]
    Wow lazyass: cancer needs a cure too you know.[/quote]

    “Dammit, Jim, I’m a DOCTOR not a _______!”

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”345150″]Merlyn endured an awful lot.[/quote]

    Okay, I’m not insensitive. But to look at it from another angle…

    I’d imagine there were many women born in Commerce, OK in 1932 who endured an awful lot, yet never had the “high points” of a big-league lifestyle in NYC.

    As I said, I’m not trying to be insensitve but rather I’m going Phil Jackson-Zen Master here. Maybe there is some sort of symetry and the highs and lows come close to balancing out.

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”345187″]”Dammit, Jim, I’m a DOCTOR not a _______!”[/quote]
    Uniform Maven?

  • mike 2 | August 11, 2009 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”345180″][quote comment=”345101″][quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer[/quote]

    but what is the question?[/quote]

    What do you get if you multiply six by nine?

  • Teebz | August 11, 2009 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”345190″][quote comment=”345180″][quote comment=”345101″][quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer[/quote]

    but what is the question?[/quote]

    What do you get if you multiply six by nine?[/quote]

    Not 42. That 6×7. 6×9 = 54.

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”345191″]Not 42. That 6×7. 6×9 = 54.[/quote]That’s the metric system Teebz.

    Here we use the old Imperial system where 6×9 equals… well what do you WANT it to equal?

  • mike 2 | August 11, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”345191″][quote comment=”345190″][quote comment=”345180″][quote comment=”345101″][quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer[/quote]

    but what is the question?[/quote]

    What do you get if you multiply six by nine?[/quote]

    Not 42. That 6×7. 6×9 = 54.[/quote]

    I know, 6×9 was the question in Hitchhikers (obviously wrong).

  • George | August 11, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”345164″][quote comment=”345139″]http://www.politickernj.com/max/32178/otoole-slams-nets-dropping-nj-uniforms-suggests-withholding-state-subsidies-teams-dont-sho#comment

    The Nets are changing their jerseys and getting rid of the “New Jersey” on the front.

    Some people aren’t happy about that.[/quote]

    Are the New jersey Nets the longest term lame duck team in the history of U.S. professional sports?

    Wasn’t it at least 5 years ago that the rappers and some gizzillionaire (Ratner, or someone with a similar name?)rannounced that they were building the Jay-Z Brooklyn Arena and that the Nets would eventually play there? Don’t we get updates on the progress of that arena evey 6 months or so.

    Why would a NJ fan have ANY interest in that mess?
    Didn’t the Nets just move to a newer arena in NJ? And soon after they now want the arena in Brooklyn?

    I don’t get it. Somebody fill me in.

    I feel like the Grandpa in “Moonstruck” that can’t figure out who ends up with who ….[/quote]

    And of course, with the economy in the crapper the way it is, even rich developers like Bruce Ratner are feeling the pinch and so now he can’t afford to make the payments to the city. So of course, like all magnanimous landlords do, the city decided that they’ll spread the payments out over a longer period of time. Because there’s no point in calling it a sweetheart deal unless you sweeten it even further.

  • Teebz | August 11, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”345193″][quote comment=”345191″][quote comment=”345190″][quote comment=”345180″][quote comment=”345101″][quote comment=”345098″]Also, fellow nerds, let us not forget that 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything.[/quote]
    Obviously, this is the correct answer[/quote]

    but what is the question?[/quote]

    What do you get if you multiply six by nine?[/quote]

    Not 42. That 6×7. 6×9 = 54.[/quote]

    I know, 6×9 was the question in Hitchhikers (obviously wrong).[/quote]

    Ohhh… never read it. Refused to watch it.

    Carry on! :o)

  • Chris F. | August 11, 2009 at 1:57 pm |

    Las Vegas Locomotives? Since when did Las Vegas have an association with trains? The uniform is pretty busy too though I like the blue because well, any shade of blue is good in my books!

    As for Pitt’s new unis, I like em, especially the stripe pattern on the pants.

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    i was under the impression there would be no math today

  • Mark K | August 11, 2009 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”345163″]I’ve arranged a little Dip(Diprivan) drip for the time off. So, when I awake after the Uniwatch hiatus, I’ll be none the wiser, or, dumber. Well, maybe a little dumber.[/quote]
    I wonder how many NFL unis you’ll recognize when you awaken.

  • Hott Rodd | August 11, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”345197″]i was under the impression there would be no math today[/quote]

    Now that’s just a silly assumption.

  • Jason Shane | August 11, 2009 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”345093″][quote comment=”345090″]Michael Kotler, Mark in Shiga, Jeremy Brahm, and our other Japanese baseball experts:

    What’s the best website to get daily news, boxscores, game recaps, etc. for Japanese baseball? I’ve been wondering this for long time, but have never been able to find a reliable news source for Japanese baseball.[/quote]

    http://japanesebaseb...

    Michael Westbay’s been running this site for like 10 years now. It is the best place to start. Plus he’ll even translate articles from the Japanese sports dailies to provide additional information that you may not find in the English papers.

    Don’t forget the Japan Times and Daily Yomiuri papers. They have game reports for each day and a couple of columns on what is happening every week.

    http://www.japantime...
    http://www.yomiuri.c...

    Thank you so much, Jeremy.

  • bourbon soaked idiot | August 11, 2009 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”345194″][quote comment=”345164″][quote comment=”345139″]http://www.politickernj.com/max/32178/otoole-slams-nets-dropping-nj-uniforms-suggests-withholding-state-subsidies-teams-dont-sho#comment

    The Nets are changing their jerseys and getting rid of the “New Jersey” on the front.

    Some people aren’t happy about that.[/quote]

    Are the New jersey Nets the longest term lame duck team in the history of U.S. professional sports?

    Wasn’t it at least 5 years ago that the rappers and some gizzillionaire (Ratner, or someone with a similar name?)rannounced that they were building the Jay-Z Brooklyn Arena and that the Nets would eventually play there? Don’t we get updates on the progress of that arena evey 6 months or so.

    Why would a NJ fan have ANY interest in that mess?
    Didn’t the Nets just move to a newer arena in NJ? And soon after they now want the arena in Brooklyn?

    I don’t get it. Somebody fill me in.

    I feel like the Grandpa in “Moonstruck” that can’t figure out who ends up with who ….[/quote]

    And of course, with the economy in the crapper the way it is, even rich developers like Bruce Ratner are feeling the pinch and so now he can’t afford to make the payments to the city. So of course, like all magnanimous landlords do, the city decided that they’ll spread the payments out over a longer period of time. Because there’s no point in calling it a sweetheart deal unless you sweeten it even further.[/quote]

    A: The Nets are still in the Brendan Byrne Arena (aka CAA; aka Izod Center). They haven’t moved since they left the Rutgers Athletic Center over 30 years ago.

    B: Ratner’s palace in Brooklyn will never be built. Frank Gehry pulled out because Ratner couldn’t afford to build his arena. Ratner was looking for a new architect, but I’ve read that Ratner is looking for buyers for the Nets now.

    C: The Nets will move in to the Prudential Center in Newark.

  • M.Princip | August 11, 2009 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”345174″]Bit of a bonanza here, possibly…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    This is what I meant by; “I’ve initiated the hunt. I’m the lone bidder here. So, please be kind and don’t try and outbid me. heh heh…..(nervous laughter)

  • LarryB | August 11, 2009 at 2:55 pm |

    Woodies’ World on ESPN Classic today had segment at the end about the history of baseball uniforms. It was very good. They talked about the satin uniform try and Brooklyn’s checked uniforms that have been discussed here before.

    Even had about catalogs showing material. I have been dvring the show since last week as well as Sports Challenge which is fun to watch too.

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”345202″][quote comment=”345174″]Bit of a bonanza here, possibly…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    This is what I meant by; “I’ve initiated the hunt. I’m the lone bidder here. So, please be kind and don’t try and outbid me. heh heh…..(nervous laughter)[/quote]

    I won’t set up an account yet, so you’re safe from me. Good luck and remember, if you end up with more Prologs than you need, I got your back…

  • LarryB | August 11, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    Nice to see the UCLA throwbacks the Bruins will wear

  • Will L. | August 11, 2009 at 3:04 pm |

    I apologize if this has been mentioned before, as I haven’t been diligently reading comments this past week like I usually do, but SI.com posted an article called ’25 Things We Miss In Baseball’ last week and it’s particularly uni-watch friendly:

    Number 25? Bullpen carts (or as they call them, ‘the Zambonis of baseball’)
    Number 1? Stirrups, of course. Although the author clearly hasn’t picked up on the growing population of stirrup nation.

  • RobT | August 11, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...

  • LarryB | August 11, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    Todays secret guest on Sports challenge was former Buckeye. Jesse Owens

  • M.Princip | August 11, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”345204″][quote comment=”345202″][quote comment=”345174″]Bit of a bonanza here, possibly…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    This is what I meant by; “I’ve initiated the hunt. I’m the lone bidder here. So, please be kind and don’t try and outbid me. heh heh…..(nervous laughter)[/quote]

    I won’t set up an account yet, so you’re safe from me. Good luck and remember, if you end up with more Prologs than you need, I got your back…[/quote]

    Of course, if I geek out on it, you guys will get the kickbacks. That is the motive of my loco.

    BTW, if there is something specific you’re looking for, let me know.

  • Graham | August 11, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    michigan with fancy new practice jerseys as well.

    http://michigan.riva...

  • LarryB | August 11, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”345133″]Gonso was the QB. Sorry.[/quote]

    John Pont coached the late 1960s Hoosier team

  • Wade Harder | August 11, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”345205″]Nice to see the UCLA throwbacks the Bruins will wear[/quote]

    I agree. I wish they’d go back to that number font permanently.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”345211″][quote comment=”345133″]Gonso was the QB. Sorry.[/quote]

    John Pont coached the late 1960s Hoosier team[/quote]

    Duh, he most certainly did. My bad.
    I was remembering a really funny story in SI about that Indiana team by John Underwood (I believe it was), titled “PUNT, JOHN, PUNT”, or something.

    There also was an hysterical piece on Lee Corso the same season (I was beginning to really notice the excellence of the writing at SI about then)…and I obviously entangled the two in my mind.

    Corso, of course, was head man at Louisville.

    Sorry bout that. The stories definitely are worth reading, though. I’m sure they’d be easy to find at SI Vault.

    —Ricko

  • LarryB | August 11, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    The UCLA pose kind of resembles this one. How about this color shot of UCLA 1950’s unis

    http://img.photobuck...

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”345214″]The UCLA pose kind of resembles this one. How about this color shot of UCLA 1950’s unis

    http://img.photobuck...

    Looks hand-tinted, or at least augmented. Don’t know that UCLA jerseys of that era were that dark, or that close to teal.
    You’re the colorist ’round here, what you think?

    —Ricko

  • DenverGregg | August 11, 2009 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...
    Yikes. So far both unis echo the colors in the league logo – that’s odd. I could see forest green as a color for Redwoods, but neon lime? It’s the Orlando Thunder all over again.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 3:34 pm |

    Pants wouldn’t have been so “silver”, either.

  • RobT | August 11, 2009 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”345216″][quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...
    Yikes. So far both unis echo the colors in the league logo – that’s odd. I could see forest green as a color for Redwoods, but neon lime? It’s the Orlando Thunder all over again.[/quote]

    From what I’m hearing, these uniforms are only to be used for their “showcase” season. Apparently, next year each team can design their own unis.

    This whole league seems to scream we have no idea how to do this properly. I get the short season, but they should at least have legit unis. For this league to succeed, they need to get the first impression right and these unis will probably scare people off. On another site I hear people saying these looked like Fubu jerseys. So maybe the UFL is trying to bring those people into the league as their fan base.

  • LarryB | August 11, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”345215″][quote comment=”345214″]The UCLA pose kind of resembles this one. How about this color shot of UCLA 1950’s unis

    http://img.photobuck...

    Looks hand-tinted, or at least augmented. Don’t know that UCLA jerseys of that era were that dark, or that close to teal.
    You’re the colorist ’round here, what you think?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think you are the one who said SI color photography was not that great. I got that from SI and the color was not always that great.

    Maybe it was the lighting?

    I did think the blue was lighter and have seen b&w shots where it seemed lighter.

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...

    kerwin bell approves

  • LarryB | August 11, 2009 at 3:47 pm |

    For any McFarlane fans I see they are finally releasing them in college uniforms. They can not do current players though and have Tom brady of Michigan and things like that.

  • Curt | August 11, 2009 at 3:49 pm |

    I think we can all agree with number one…

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Squiddie | August 11, 2009 at 3:53 pm |
  • Squiddie | August 11, 2009 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”345222″]I think we can all agree with number one…

    http://sportsillustr...

    In these parts, #17 and #19 have their followers, too.

  • Teebz | August 11, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”345225″][quote comment=”345222″]I think we can all agree with number one…

    http://sportsillustr...

    In these parts, #17 and #19 have their followers, too.[/quote]

    #10 is still big in the hockey wing. :o)

  • DJ | August 11, 2009 at 4:04 pm |

    Nice collection of photos from Target Field — it looks great! Odd though, that our first look at the tweaked Twins logo that will presumably debut next year is placed abouve a urinal.

  • Berto | August 11, 2009 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...

    I’m actually a fan of neon green unis in general and I’m happy I’ve got a local team that’s brave enough to go all the way with it. I think “redwoods” is a bit silly though. I’ll bet we have more Eucalyptus around here than Redwood.

  • chance michaels | August 11, 2009 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”345201″][quote comment=”345194″][quote comment=”345164″][quote comment=”345139″]http://www.politickernj.com/max/32178/otoole-slams-nets-dropping-nj-uniforms-suggests-withholding-state-subsidies-teams-dont-sho#comment

    The Nets are changing their jerseys and getting rid of the “New Jersey” on the front.

    Some people aren’t happy about that.[/quote]

    Are the New jersey Nets the longest term lame duck team in the history of U.S. professional sports?

    Wasn’t it at least 5 years ago that the rappers and some gizzillionaire (Ratner, or someone with a similar name?)rannounced that they were building the Jay-Z Brooklyn Arena and that the Nets would eventually play there? Don’t we get updates on the progress of that arena evey 6 months or so.

    Why would a NJ fan have ANY interest in that mess?
    Didn’t the Nets just move to a newer arena in NJ? And soon after they now want the arena in Brooklyn?

    I don’t get it. Somebody fill me in.

    I feel like the Grandpa in “Moonstruck” that can’t figure out who ends up with who ….[/quote]

    And of course, with the economy in the crapper the way it is, even rich developers like Bruce Ratner are feeling the pinch and so now he can’t afford to make the payments to the city. So of course, like all magnanimous landlords do, the city decided that they’ll spread the payments out over a longer period of time. Because there’s no point in calling it a sweetheart deal unless you sweeten it even further.[/quote]

    A: The Nets are still in the Brendan Byrne Arena (aka CAA; aka Izod Center). They haven’t moved since they left the Rutgers Athletic Center over 30 years ago.

    B: Ratner’s palace in Brooklyn will never be built. Frank Gehry pulled out because Ratner couldn’t afford to build his arena. Ratner was looking for a new architect, but I’ve read that Ratner is looking for buyers for the Nets now.

    C: The Nets will move in to the Prudential Center in Newark.[/quote]
    Wishful thinking.

    Ratner already has a new architect – Ellerbe Becket. And unlike Gehry, they actually specialize in stadiums, so the process will smoothen out.

    In addition, the legal challenges continue to fall. It will be built. And yes, Ratner is trying to sell part or all of his interest, but the same rumors are that relocation will be part of the deal.

    Naysayers have long downplayed the project, but it continues to move forward.

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 4:29 pm |

    More fun with names/numbers:
    Happy (or anyone named) DIX; 59
    Because we can only have 2 numerals

    :)

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”345228″][quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...

    I’m actually a fan of neon green unis in general and I’m happy I’ve got a local team that’s brave enough to go all the way with it. I think “redwoods” is a bit silly though. I’ll bet we have more Eucalyptus around here than Redwood.[/quote]

    Beats the “RockFish.” Again, I don’t disapprove. And I can think of other uniforms…
    http://blueworkhorse...
    http://www.mkrob.com...
    http://www.esquire.c...
    http://photos.jackso...
    …that would be uglier than this one.

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”345209″][quote comment=”345204″][quote comment=”345202″][quote comment=”345174″]Bit of a bonanza here, possibly…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    This is what I meant by; “I’ve initiated the hunt. I’m the lone bidder here. So, please be kind and don’t try and outbid me. heh heh…..(nervous laughter)[/quote]

    I won’t set up an account yet, so you’re safe from me. Good luck and remember, if you end up with more Prologs than you need, I got your back…[/quote]

    Of course, if I geek out on it, you guys will get the kickbacks. That is the motive of my loco.

    BTW, if there is something specific you’re looking for, let me know.[/quote]

    ’82 or ’83 season, maybe one from a Steelers Super Bowl year…

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”345231″][quote comment=”345228″][quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...

    I’m actually a fan of neon green unis in general and I’m happy I’ve got a local team that’s brave enough to go all the way with it. I think “redwoods” is a bit silly though. I’ll bet we have more Eucalyptus around here than Redwood.[/quote]

    Beats the “RockFish.” Again, I don’t disapprove. And I can think of other uniforms…
    http://blueworkhorse...
    http://www.mkrob.com...
    http://www.esquire.c...
    http://photos.jackso...
    …that would be uglier than this one.[/quote]

    And again, not what I would have designed, but I was expecting sooooo much worse. Maybe next year, when the teams design their own, they will be…

  • leon | August 11, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    http://www.gstatic.c...

    what about 16-ouncer?

  • RobT | August 11, 2009 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”345231″][quote comment=”345228″][quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...

    I’m actually a fan of neon green unis in general and I’m happy I’ve got a local team that’s brave enough to go all the way with it. I think “redwoods” is a bit silly though. I’ll bet we have more Eucalyptus around here than Redwood.[/quote]

    Beats the “RockFish.” Again, I don’t disapprove. And I can think of other uniforms…
    http://blueworkhorse...
    http://www.mkrob.com...
    http://www.esquire.c...
    http://photos.jackso...
    …that would be uglier than this one.[/quote]

    Different tastes I guess. I like all of those better than this.

    My biggest problem with this uniform “system” is that stupid stripe across the front. I’m not a huge fan of lime/neon green as a base colour, but it works. I mean does any casual sports fan remember much about the WLAF other than the Orlando Thunder? I’m just surprised that these jerseys weren’t the Florida Tuskers, who are based in Orlando. At least some football fans would have a connection to them.

  • =bg= | August 11, 2009 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”345160″][quote comment=”345157″][quote comment=”345155″][quote comment=”345111″]Just added this fun cover, by Jack David, in our ‘Pro!’ mag. section. I hadn’t checked, yet, I wonder if they depict all of the #77 players correct?[/quote]

    Mike, do you have any PROLOG magazines? http://www.ecrater.c...

    Those were, by far, the best publications the NFL ever printed. So many great photos. I have two (looking back on the ’84 and ’85 seasons) and they rank up there as some of the best items in my collection.[/quote]

    I have half-dozen or more from early to mid-’70s. Been meaning to dig them out. Was gonna see if I had ’77, to check on Bucs wearing nothing but white all season (generally a photo from every game every week).

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’ve had a chance to pick them(Prolog) up from time to time, however, never did. I’ve glanced through a couple from the early eighties, yet, for some reason I felt everything I needed was in the Pro! issues, and that simply the Prolog was a review of that season? Maybe I should look further…..think I will.[/quote]

    Heh. Growing up, I LIVED for the fall issue of Prolog. WAAAY cool stuff. Match that with my NFL Playbook, my NFL 72 album from Sunoco, and my blue playbook from the game NFL Strategy, and I was armed for battle during lunchtime @ Mariemont Middle School, you betcha.

  • =bg= | August 11, 2009 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”345228″][quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...

    I’m actually a fan of neon green unis in general and I’m happy I’ve got a local team that’s brave enough to go all the way with it. I think “redwoods” is a bit silly though. I’ll bet we have more Eucalyptus around here than Redwood.[/quote]

    That is desperately bad. I visit the redwoods, they are majestic and beautiful.

    These……….aren’t. These are TURRIBLE.

    Maybe to a Seahawks fan, tho.

  • =bg= | August 11, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”345220″][quote comment=”345207″]Day two of let’s create the ugliest uniform in football. The UFL has announced the California Redwoods as their San Francisco team. I guess they decided the San Francisco RockFish was a dumb sounding name.

    Home: http://www.uflaccess...

    Away: http://www.uflaccess...

    kerwin bell approves[/quote]

    Yeah, great Southern California Sun reference.
    (disclaimer: I loved that look.)

  • =bg= | August 11, 2009 at 5:11 pm |

    Wait! I’m wrong. OK, who was the QB for the Sun?

  • Jim Bullard | August 11, 2009 at 5:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”345125″]I love hot dogs, tattoos, and topless women, but this is still pretty freaky-deaky…

    If that tattoo was intended to be some sort of Chicagoan purity test then I passed because my immediate reaction was “for the love of God, why the ketchup?”[/quote]

    Amen to that brother. Ketchup has no place on a hot dog.

    However, everyone knows the world’s greatest hot dogs and snappy grillers come from Upstate New York, brought you by Hofmann’s.

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”345239″]Wait! I’m wrong. OK, who was the QB for the Sun?[/quote]

    you must be thinkin’ of pat haden

    i loved the suns unis…but then again, i was like 9

    these UFL ones…not so much

    check this out

  • Maks | August 11, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    eww… Ducks on Sports Illustrator… (gags) Go Beavers.
    Article here.

    Cover here.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”345242″]eww… Ducks on Sports Illustrator… (gags) Go Beavers.
    Article here.

    Cover here.[/quote]

    Ah, the doily shoulders.
    I think I have a photo of my Great Aunt Christine wearing a dress something like that in about 1910.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 6:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”345241″][quote comment=”345239″]Wait! I’m wrong. OK, who was the QB for the Sun?[/quote]

    you must be thinkin’ of pat haden

    i loved the suns unis…but then again, i was like 9

    these UFL ones…not so much

    check this out[/quote]

    Daryle Lamonica, too.

    —Ricko

  • BurghFan | August 11, 2009 at 6:45 pm |

    Ricko,

    In your Buckskins brochure that ran yesterday, were you wrong when you said WTT matches would be three sets, or am I remembering incorrectly that there were five sets (three doubles and two singles)?

    Thanks.

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 6:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”345245″]Ricko,

    In your Buckskins brochure that ran yesterday, were you wrong when you said WTT matches would be three sets, or am I remembering incorrectly that there were five sets (three doubles and two singles)?

    Thanks.[/quote]

    They revamped the format several times. That brochure (teams had to get something out to the public) may well say something that subesquently changed. And, to tell you the truth, I don’t even remember what format they settled on. For reasons that have to do with breached contracts, lost revenue, a lawsuit, a 90-year-old judge who fell asleep on the bench during testimony and retired mid-trial (really, lol), etc., I have pushed a lot of it out of my mind. I do remember the five-set test matches (one in Denver, one in Detroit) lasted WAY too long, so they settled on some variation.

    —Ricko

  • Nick | August 11, 2009 at 7:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”345239″]Wait! I’m wrong. OK, who was the QB for the Sun?[/quote]

    Daryl Lamonica was supposed to play the forst season, I don’t know if he ever did. Then I believe Tony Adams (actually saw him win a game for the KC Chiefs in Hank Stram’s last year), Gary Valbuena, and Pat Haden.

    Anybody

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 7:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”345247″][quote comment=”345239″]Wait! I’m wrong. OK, who was the QB for the Sun?[/quote]

    Daryl Lamonica was supposed to play the forst season, I don’t know if he ever did. Then I believe Tony Adams (actually saw him win a game for the KC Chiefs in Hank Stram’s last year), Gary Valbuena, and Pat Haden.

    Anybody[/quote]

    This from the Wiki bio on Lamonica (yeah, I know, hardly reliable, but does have some stats)…
    “Lamonica played for one season (1975) in the short-lived World Football League as quarterback of the Southern California Sun, where in limited time he went 9 for 19 and gained 90 yards for 1 touchdown.” So he played during the USFL’s second season.

    Was gonna mention Tony Adams, but didn’t think anyone would remember him. He also was the Vikings QB during the “replacement” season in ’87.

    Also not mentioned often, but Danny White’s pro career started with the Memphis Southmen/Grizzlies.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 7:49 pm |

    Sorry, WFL’s second season. Not USFL.

  • Tony | August 11, 2009 at 7:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”345196″]Las Vegas Locomotives? Since when did Las Vegas have an association with trains?[/quote]

    Las Vegas had a major railroad station back in the late 1800’s after the Mormons got out of town. That’s the only association I can think of.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 8:09 pm |

    Wouldn’t Las Vegas Aces be about the most obvious—and maybe better than anything else—nickname?

    Has it EVER been used? For anything? Hockey, box lacrosse, indoor soccer, rattlesnake catching?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 11, 2009 at 8:12 pm |

    I coulda looked first.

    “Las Vegas Aces may refer to one of two professional sports franchises:

    “Las Vegas Aces (basketball), a minor league basketball team that competes in the American Basketball Association.
    “Las Vegas Aces (inline hockey), a professional inline hockey team that competes in the American Inline Hockey League.”

    Ah, but Reno did/does use it for baseball.

    —Ricko

  • Tyler Hale | August 11, 2009 at 8:26 pm |

    The feaux button on Carlos Guillens batting Helmet is right next to the D tonight? anybody else see this

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”345246″][quote comment=”345245″]Ricko,

    In your Buckskins brochure that ran yesterday, were you wrong when you said WTT matches would be three sets, or am I remembering incorrectly that there were five sets (three doubles and two singles)?

    Thanks.[/quote]

    They revamped the format several times. That brochure (teams had to get something out to the public) may well say something that subesquently changed. And, to tell you the truth, I don’t even remember what format they settled on. For reasons that have to do with breached contracts, lost revenue, a lawsuit, a 90-year-old judge who fell asleep on the bench during testimony and retired mid-trial (really, lol), etc., I have pushed a lot of it out of my mind. I do remember the five-set test matches (one in Denver, one in Detroit) lasted WAY too long, so they settled on some variation.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    burgh fan–

    you definitely weren’t wrong…i remember the first season or two you got five matches — men’s singles, women’s singles, mens & women’s doubles, then a mixed

    i think they may have changed it later on — it may have been first team to WIN three sets — instead of a cumulative # of total games won, and it may even have been just 3 matches TOTAL in the end

    but at the beginning was definitely 5 total sets

  • BurghFan | August 11, 2009 at 9:05 pm |

    you definitely weren’t wrong…i remember the first season or two you got five matches — men’s singles, women’s singles, mens & women’s doubles, then a mixed

    That’s how I remember it, with doubles and singles alternating, and the home team choosing the order of sets.

    i think they may have changed it later on — it may have been first team to WIN three sets — instead of a cumulative # of total games won, and it may even have been just 3 matches TOTAL in the end

    but at the beginning was definitely 5 total sets

    At some point, they required the team that won the match to win the last game (to avoid matches that were over after three sets), so if the team that won the last set was behind in the match, they continued until the match leader won a game or the last set winner won the match. The Triangles only lasted three years, though, and I don’t know how the rules might have changed afterward.

  • anotherguy | August 11, 2009 at 9:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”345251″]Wouldn’t Las Vegas Aces be about the most obvious—and maybe better than anything else—nickname?[/quote]
    The…

    Vegas Bustouts
    Vegas Skimmers
    Vegas Naturals

    Or (with a nod to Albert Brooks) the Vegas Nest Eggs?

  • odessasteps magazine | August 11, 2009 at 9:47 pm |

    Late to the game, but wanted to say I ordered a Giants hat recently from Yakyu Shop and eveything was fine. It fit (I was worried since I wear an 8 ballcap) and came quickly through the post.

  • JimV19 | August 11, 2009 at 9:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”345236″]Heh. Growing up, I LIVED for the fall issue of Prolog. WAAAY cool stuff. Match that with my NFL Playbook, my NFL 72 album from Sunoco, and my blue playbook from the game NFL Strategy, and I was armed for battle during lunchtime @ Mariemont Middle School, you betcha.[/quote]

    Still have my NFL 72 album. Don’t have my NFL lunchbox anymore, though. Win some, lose some…

    And you’re right about the fall Prolog – I kept checking the store shelves every week until it arrived. Why don’t they publish it anymore???

  • JTH | August 11, 2009 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”345234″]http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/7e5c3bee9dc67dd8_large

    what about 16-ouncer?[/quote]
    Pretty sure it’s 40-ouncer.

  • subway | August 11, 2009 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”345229″][quote comment=”345201″][quote comment=”345194″][quote comment=”345164″][quote comment=”345139″]http://www.politickernj.com/max/32178/otoole-slams-nets-dropping-nj-uniforms-suggests-withholding-state-subsidies-teams-dont-sho#comment

    The Nets are changing their jerseys and getting rid of the “New Jersey” on the front.

    Some people aren’t happy about that.[/quote]

    Are the New jersey Nets the longest term lame duck team in the history of U.S. professional sports?

    Wasn’t it at least 5 years ago that the rappers and some gizzillionaire (Ratner, or someone with a similar name?)rannounced that they were building the Jay-Z Brooklyn Arena and that the Nets would eventually play there? Don’t we get updates on the progress of that arena evey 6 months or so.

    Why would a NJ fan have ANY interest in that mess?
    Didn’t the Nets just move to a newer arena in NJ? And soon after they now want the arena in Brooklyn?

    I don’t get it. Somebody fill me in.

    I feel like the Grandpa in “Moonstruck” that can’t figure out who ends up with who ….[/quote]

    And of course, with the economy in the crapper the way it is, even rich developers like Bruce Ratner are feeling the pinch and so now he can’t afford to make the payments to the city. So of course, like all magnanimous landlords do, the city decided that they’ll spread the payments out over a longer period of time. Because there’s no point in calling it a sweetheart deal unless you sweeten it even further.[/quote]

    A: The Nets are still in the Brendan Byrne Arena (aka CAA; aka Izod Center). They haven’t moved since they left the Rutgers Athletic Center over 30 years ago.

    B: Ratner’s palace in Brooklyn will never be built. Frank Gehry pulled out because Ratner couldn’t afford to build his arena. Ratner was looking for a new architect, but I’ve read that Ratner is looking for buyers for the Nets now.

    C: The Nets will move in to the Prudential Center in Newark.[/quote]
    Wishful thinking.

    Ratner already has a new architect – Ellerbe Becket. And unlike Gehry, they actually specialize in stadiums, so the process will smoothen out.

    In addition, the legal challenges continue to fall. It will be built. And yes, Ratner is trying to sell part or all of his interest, but the same rumors are that relocation will be part of the deal.

    Naysayers have long downplayed the project, but it continues to move forward.[/quote]
    When it’s done, I’ll be there in my “I’M CALLING IT BRENDAN BYRNE” shirt!

  • JTH | August 11, 2009 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”345218″]On another site I hear people saying these looked like Fubu jerseys. So maybe the UFL is trying to bring those people into the league as their fan base.[/quote]
    what?

  • UmpLou | August 11, 2009 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”345223″]From the 1952 World Series

    Dodgers Bouncer or Announcer?

    Almost a good look at the Ebbets Field usher uni

    Sym-phony Band[/quote]

    You sure thats from 52? The first pic is of Burt Shotton, who was Dodger manager from 48-50. He was one of the last managers to wear sreetclothes on the bench, so to get around the rule that everyone had to be in uniform, he usually wore a crappy Dodger jacket or sweater or something – so he was about 50 years ahead of guys like Francona.

    Shotton was a Branch Rickey toady, and after getting clobbered in the 49 Series by the Yankees, and then blowing the 50 pennant to the Phillie Whiz Kids, Rickey sold out to O’Malley, and Shotton was goners – to be replaced by Chuck Dressen, who proceeded to BLOW the 51 Pennant, and then lose two WS to the Yankees that the Dodgers should have won at least one of….

    The NYC writers HATED Shotton, and one of them – Dick Young probably – always referred to him as KOBS: Kindly Old Burt Shotton

  • LI Phil | August 11, 2009 at 10:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”345261″][quote comment=”345218″]On another site I hear people saying these looked like Fubu jerseys. So maybe the UFL is trying to bring those people into the league as their fan base.[/quote]
    what?[/quote]

    wait…WHAT

  • MPowers1634 | August 12, 2009 at 12:17 am |

    Tomorrow…me…Camden Yards…Fifth row behind the A’s Dugout..Woo Hoo

    Fourth stadium this summer

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | August 12, 2009 at 1:26 am |

    [quote comment=”345261″][quote comment=”345218″]On another site I hear people saying these looked like Fubu jerseys. So maybe the UFL is trying to bring those people into the league as their fan base.[/quote]
    what?[/quote]

    yeah, I noticed that too. Hopefully, nothing bad was intended.

    and about the unis, on the website, you can see both teams. i can deal with the stripe across the front, but why does it have to thicken as it goes left to right??

    and nothing says “we have no originality” or “we just don’t have any damn money” like cookie cutter unis

  • JTH | August 12, 2009 at 4:42 am |

    [quote comment=”345265″][quote comment=”345261″][quote comment=”345218″]On another site I hear people saying these looked like Fubu jerseys. So maybe the UFL is trying to bring those people into the league as their fan base.[/quote]
    what?[/quote]

    yeah, I noticed that too. Hopefully, nothing bad was intended.

    and about the unis, on the website, you can see both teams. i can deal with the stripe across the front, but why does it have to thicken as it goes left to right??

    and nothing says “we have no originality” or “we just don’t have any damn money” like cookie cutter unis[/quote]
    Hopefully.

    Anyway, not only does it appear that the designs themselves will be cookie-cutter in nature, but it looks like there will be a grand total of four team colors used: lime green, black, gray and that light blue/teal.

  • RobT | August 12, 2009 at 6:08 am |

    [quote comment=”345265″][quote comment=”345261″][quote comment=”345218″]On another site I hear people saying these looked like Fubu jerseys. So maybe the UFL is trying to bring those people into the league as their fan base.[/quote]
    what?[/quote]

    yeah, I noticed that too. Hopefully, nothing bad was intended.

    and about the unis, on the website, you can see both teams. i can deal with the stripe across the front, but why does it have to thicken as it goes left to right??

    and nothing says “we have no originality” or “we just don’t have any damn money” like cookie cutter unis[/quote]

    Not at all. All I meant was the people who wear that kind of stuff. The reason I put it that way, is at least here in Saskatoon nobody wears Fubu stuff, so I dunno who the target audience may be if that’s the idea.

  • Steve May | August 12, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    Team Canada hockey jerseys preview. I like ’em (the First Nations images is subtle – but a nice touch)

    http://bit.ly/M1tzb

  • rockyjr | August 12, 2009 at 9:57 pm |

    I don’t know how this has never been discussed here or how I never even knew about it but I think I found the craziest baseball unis ever- the ones from the movie “Bingo Long and the Traveling All-Stars and Motor Kings” http://lh5.ggpht.com...