Tracking The Unis, Round 2, Part II

Whole bunch of stuff today, including NFL news, new Benchies & two “Guess The Game” quizzes, uniform news and more below. Make sure you check out the whole post (if you feel like skipping the unitracking bit). The non-tracking stuff starts with the bold “FOOTBALL IS BACK” section.

uni tracking round 2a

By Phil Hecken

We’re back with round two, day two today (if you didn’t see yesterday, look here). A few late stragglers who nevertheless got their tracking in under the deadline bumped up the two-day total. That’s good (but there’s a lot in this section). So, lets get it started:

orioles-logoWe start today off with Billy DePriest, who tracks the Orioles:

It’s hard to draw any conclusions with the O’s uniform choices, since they are a pretty bad team overall. But here are the stats as of 8/2:

At home, they are 25-21 (.543) wearing their standard white uniforms which is by far their best uniform, record wise. They are 3-5 (.375) wearing the black alternate jersey, which is worn every Friday.

As you know, the O’s are wearing “Baltimore” on their standard away jersey this year, which has become their “worst” jersey. They are an awful 13-29 (.310) in standard grays, and an identical 3-5 (.375) wearing the black alternate jersey on the road on Fridays.

Interestingly, on July 17th (a Friday), the O’s wore gray at Chicago because the Sox were wearing their black alternates. No surprise, the O’s lost.

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atlanta_braves_logoOur next tracker is Patrick Campbell, who keeps tabs on the Braves:

Phil,

I’ve attached a screen shot of my spreadsheet for the Atlanta Braves. Through July 31, the Braves record is:

Overall: 52-51
Home White: 22-23
Sunday Home Red: 5-1
Road Blue: 19-18
Road Gray: 6-8
Negro League Throwbacks: 0-1

The Negro League throwbacks could be classified as road grays, however, I decided to give them a separate classification. The Braves continue to favor the blue jerseys on the road. The grays were used exclusively in Milwaukee, even when the Brewers chose to wear their white jerseys on Sunday. The grays will probably see some use in San Diego, where the Padres sometimes wear blue.

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pittsburgh pirates logo - 1987 - 1996Next up is George Lesko, another of our Pirates trackers:

I didn’t submit the first time but here is mine for the Buccos.

Trends

1. Great in the home whites. W-L records suggests that we should stray from the black (Friday) or pinstripes (Sunday). At least they aren’t red.
2. Horrible on the road. Period.
3. Undefeated in the 1909 throwbacks and the Negro League Homestead Grays throwbacks
4. Broke out W-L record for each uniform by starting pitcher.
5. Games in yellow are ones I’ve attended this year (4-2) … 5 home whites and 1 pinstripes

George sent along the following screen caps which can be used in conjunction with his points above: Cap I, Cap II, Cap III, and Cap IV

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philadelphia phillies logoMoving on, we have Timothy Killeen who is a Phillies tracker:

The Phils seem to play better in their away grays according to their record, but it can be deceiving as they’ve certainly turned it around from their dismal home white/cream winning percentage when last I checked in. While there may not be any clear cut uni-related anomalies in overall win/loss record, there do seem to be some uni-trends with starting pitchers. For one, Phils fans would probably love to make sure that Cole Hamels never wears the day-game cream uniform for the rest of the season. He’s currently 0-3 in 4 starts with that uniform. We’d prefer instead that he only pitch during home night games, as he’s 4-0 in white. On the other hand, should Bretty Myers return to the rotation from injury, we’d like to see he and Jamie Moyer only pitch in away games as they are a combined 10-2 in 15 starts while wearing the grey.

Here’s a screen shot of my work as of August 1st

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barrel manNext up is Andrew Greenwood “Greenie” who is a Brewers tracker:

Phil,

Don’t have much right now for insight into what and why (getting ready to move), but I’ve got the general idea for you. All totals through Sat. July 25th. Spent some time last night recreating the Milwaukee Bears unis they wore yesterday. I think I got it pretty close.

You sure did, Greenie. Here’s a screenshot of the pitchers’ totals, and the record by uniform.

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red sox logoNext up is Justine DeCotis, who is a Red Sox tracker:

This year, the Red Sox have worn a ridiculous 12 uni combos. They play the best in the classic home uni with a .700 winning percentage. They have never lost in the alternate navy road uni with the Sox cap and red socks, but have only worn it three times. The weirdest combo so far was on May 30th, they wore the road grays with the hanging Sox cap. That hideous cap is usually only paired with the red and navy alternate jerseys. Maybe the choice of Brad Penny, who started that game.

Justine has broken her tracking down into home games and away games, and two great graphics detailing the caps and socks as well as the jersey and cap combinations, and the winning percentages associated with all.

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texas rangers logoMoving along, our next tracker is U2Horn, who has been keeping tabs on the Rangers:

The Rangers have been wearing their white jerseys at home more recently, possibly because it’s so damned hot in Arlington in July. Even with 7:05pm starts, game time temperatures are often in triple digits. Kevin Millwood continues to prefer the home whites and road grays, while Vicente Padilla seems to prefer the Blue jersey both at home and on the road. In fact, the Rangers haven’t worn the gray jerseys for any game not started by Millwood since May 19.

So, for the uni combos they’ve worn more than a couple of times, their best combo is the traditional home whites (they’ve now won 7 in a row in them), while the worst combo is the traditional road grays.

And U2 has of course, provided the Uniform Chart and the screenshot of his spreadsheet for our reference.

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new york mets logoOur next tracker is Gregg Girard, who like me, is a Mets tracker:

Phil. Here you go.

Like Phil, I’m uni-tracking the Mets. (Your sympathy is welcome.)

Well, I made one bold prediction back in May: Santana will never wear black. Unfortunately for Johann and me, I was wrong. In the three Santana in black starts (all on the road), he went 0-3 with a 10.06 ERA.

As I said in May, I am searching for patterns, both in terms of victories and behind actual uniform selection. A losing record tends to negate the former, but I was able to dig out a few notables: the Mets home winning percentage is .528 overall, but it rises to .636 and .625 when they wear snow white/blue and black, respectively. Wearing their classic pinstripe/blue combination, they are a dreadful 1-4. As Phil noted in May, that combo seemed to be the regular Sunday uniform, but after wearing them for three straight Sunday losses, they haven’t worn them on Sunday since June 21. In fact, they didn’t wear pinstripes until July 31, when they put them on for a Friday night loss to the D-backs.

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florida marlins logoContinuing on, we have Dwayne White, one of our Marlins trackers:

Phil:

Here is my Marlins run-down up to August 1st.

There really is no rhyme or reason for the way that the Marlins use the black, alternate jersey. That is unless it is “Pitcher’s Choice”, which I did not track. It probably shouldn’t be called an alternate because they wear the black one on the road more than the grey jersey. They wore the black jersey 29 times as opposed to 22 times for the grey one on the road.

The only two times that the Marlins wore the black jerseys at home, they lost both night games. The first time the black jersey was worn this year, The Fish lost the game after 11 straight, season opening, victories.

Dwayne sends along six wonderful tracking sheets: Marlins Combos; a breakdown of the uniform winning percentages; and individual tracking for April, May, June, and July.

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braves logoNext up is Shawn Tunick, who is yet another Braves tracker:

Hey i saw your pic for uni tracking thing was the braves, so i guess you already have one, but this is my superfluous edition, all i can add to last edition is that they have worn their gray on the road more than the blue (thank god) as the weather warms up.

There is nothing superfluous about multiple people tracking the same team. OK there is, but I still love it.

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oakland a's logoNext is Brandon Davis, an A’s tracker:

The A’s are 25-24 in the home whites and 19-19 when the starter gets a decision. The team is 1-4 in home blacks but 0-4 when the starter gets a decision. In other words, there’s no reason for a starter to ever pick the blacks again this season (although the sole win was the biggest comeback in team history). The team is awful on the road at 22-33 (11-22 when the starter ges a decision) but they’ve won both throwback games. The A’s are 2-6 when wearing a special ribbon, jersey, or cap (not including throwbacks) and the starter has always gotten the decision.

BLACK JERSEYS: The A’s are 1-4 in the black home alternate set and only four starters have donned them (the A’s will start their twelfth starter on Saturday, August 8 if you’re wondering). The team didn’t even notch a win in the blacks until July 20, AFTER the All-Star break. Has any other team waited that long to win in a set that is part of the regular uniform rotation?

HELMET DECALS: The A’s are 10-8 since switching helmet decals on their green and gold helmet on July 21 (having gone 37-48 before). Jason Giambi wore the logo before his was changed on June 30. He went on the disabled list on July 20 and the next day the A’s all had the new decal. He’s been released so ironically Giambi wore the new decal but never matched his teammates.

JERSEY NUMBERS: Four members of the A’s have changed their uni number in-season due to a number of switches: Nomar Garciaparra (5,1), Eric Patterson (4,5,12), Scott Hairston (21,12), and coach Mike Gallego (12,4). Not to mention returners who had different numbers last season: Kurt Suzuki (24,8), Rajai Davis (38/11), Cliff Pennington (56,26), Sean Gallagher (39,36), and bullpent catcher Casey Chavez (69,99).

Brandon includes two excellent tracking sheets: Oakland Pitchers’ Jerseys and a Regular Uniform Tracking sheet.

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chicago cubs logoWe continue with Chris Mehler, self-described “Die Hard (literally) Cubs fan:”

Hey Phil,

Sorry I am just getting back to you…been a busy week! Well here it is:

As is well known, the starting pitchers of the Cubs pick that days jersey and The Cubs only wear white, gray and blue jersies with a solid blue cap. So, Carlos Zambrano ALWAYS wears the blue alt. (I wonder how his psyche was a couple years ago when the Cubs for just that year got rid of their blue alternates?) Rich Harden mostly wears the blue alt. Luckily, there is some uni-sense as Ryan Dempster and Ted Lilly both only wear white at home and gray on the road. You can see some trends happening: both blue sets (home and road) are doing quite well. The best? white pinstripes and the worst? gray! So, they need to ban the gray jersey for the rest of the year.

Bringing us right up to date, Chris sends four screenshots of his tracking: Part I, Part II, Part III, and Part IV.

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Twins logoNext up is Jeff Barak, Twins tracker:

The Twins records in each jersey through the end of July are:

Home Whites 13-7
Blue Alternates 19-8 overall, 11-6 at home, 8-12 on the road
White Vest 4-2 (worn only twice since April 28)
Saturday Throwbacks (worn with red caps) 4-5
Road Gray 13-18

The Twins wore the 4 ALS patch on July 4th on their Saturday Throwbacks.
Sunday July 5th was “Armed Forces Day” and each player wore a cap with the name of a branch of the armed services. The caps varied in color, with some of them even being white.
They also wore the blue ribbon patch on Father’s Day with their blue alternates at home.

A note of interest was the Twins wore their blue alternates for six consecutive days on the road in July going W,L,L,W,L,L, so it’s not as if they were keeping a winning streak alive at the time. Five different pitchers started during the run of blue jerseys, with Scott Baker pitching the first and last games of the six.

My tracking method remains the same as before, the mighty pen and notepad.

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milwaukee brewers ball in glove logoAnd squeaking in at the last moment is Alex “Insert Name Here” Poterack, who tracks the Brewers:

Sorry I’m getting this in so late; I hadn’t be able to do much uni-tracking lately ’cause I was moving, but I updated everything today, and here’s the latest:

I believe it was Nietzsche who said, “From chaos comes order”. The Brewers’ uniform usage, however, can only be described as “From order came chaos”. Where the Crew’s starting rotation all began the season with clearly defined uniform preferences, they have since departed from these, and each pitcher has worn each of the three main jerseys (home white, road gray, blue alternate) at least once. They do seem to be adopting some patterns, however: Yovani Gallardo seems to be wearing the whites at home and blue alts on the road; Suppan seems to be doing the opposite, wearing the alts at home and grays on the road; and Manny Parra has exclusively worn the blue alternates since coming up from the minors. Some news to report: the Brewers have since worn two new jerseys since my last uni report. Against the Giants on June 27th, they wore their “Cerveceros” jerseys. While these were whites in the past, and they also wore white ones for spring training, this year they wore blue Cerveceros jerseys. On July 25th, they wore Negro Leagues jerseys, which were cream colored with royal blue raglan sleeves. They are undefeated in these one-off jerseys, and their record in the other jerseys is as follows:

Home Whites: 17-14
Home White (Red Caps): 1-0
Blue Alternates: 17-23
Blue Alternates (Red Caps): 0-1
Road Grays: 13-11
Road Grays (Red Caps): 1-1
Retro Friday: 1-2
Blue Cerveceros: 1-0
Negro League Throwbacks: 1-0

And here is Alex’s updated tracking sheet.

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OK. That concludes our uniform tracking, round 2, part II. I want to thank each and everyone who is not only tracking their teams uniform combinations, but also for sending them in to me and for providing (for the most part) such great graphics and spreadsheets. The last round will come after the season has concluded, and perhaps some or all of our trackers’ efforts can be entered into the UW logs for posterity. I’ll see if this is something Paul would be amenable to, so everyone who’s tracking, great work and keep it up for the home stretch!

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old bills helmetold oiler helmetFOOTBALL IS BACK tonight, with the Hall of Fame Game! (A decent writeup of the game can be found at the always trustworthy Wikipedia.) Kickoff is at 8:00 pm (eastern time) on NBC. This will mark our first on field glimpses of the AFL throwback uniforms which will be seen sporadically throughout the season. Apparently, the Oilers have been designated as the home team, so the Titans Oilers will wear these beauties saving these bad boys for the road. The Bills, who have worn their dark (home) throwbacks as an alternate for the past few seasons will be wearing this again this season for their home games and this for tonight’s game. I believe there was some concern expressed on the boards recently that the Bills’ stripes aren’t correct. I believe the Bills will be wearing the uniforms they wore in 1965, (the season they won their second consecutive AFL championship), although photographic evidence shows these pants stripes were worn in 1965. (Here’s another look at the pants, although that is a 1965 card, the photo may have been from 1964.) Although this photo is from 1967, the Bills pants remained unchanged from 1965. For a great look at the ’65 Bills, check this out.

Meanwhile the Oilers will be throwing all the way back to 1960. The Oilers won the first AFL championship following the 1960 season. Although black and white, here’s a pretty good photograph of the 1960 team. A really in-depth writeup of the Houston Oilers can be found here. Finally, here’s a brief writeup of the Oilers “Legacy” uniforms.

Nice way to kick off the season. I’m sure there’ll be a few comments on the uniforms tonight, so make sure you check back in during the game.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: This one might not the be the easiest ever, but I’m sure you’ll all be able to solve it without too much trouble. Certainly, the location shouldn’t pose a problem, and there are more than enough clues right in the picture to solve the rest. Obviously, location, date and final score please, and a quick description of how you went about ascertaining same. Ready? Guess The Game.

Now, because this is my last weekend post until next month, I’m gonna give you guys a bonus GTG, which may be a little harder. The clues are there, (and I apologize if they’re hard to read), so give it a shot. (Hint: hold down “CTRL” and use the scroll button on your mouse to magnify the image) Ready? Guess The Game. Location shouldn’t be any trouble, but date and final score might be.

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benchies headerSince you got five Benchies yesterday (a “Monday” thru “Friday” offering), today we’ll give you:

Saturday Benchies

Sunday Benchies

Ay, carumba. Thanks, Ricko.

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Colorado-Alt - sean wilsonThe “What If” (City Flag) American and National League posts from the past couple of weekends generated a few positive E-mails. One or two readers suggested that I try to incorporate more of the city flag into the uniform mockups, so I gave it a shot for the Colorado Rockies and the Cincinnati Reds (in fact, I believe on of our readers had also done a similar mockup for the Reds a couple of weeks ago — I forget who it was, but if you’re reading, please post your creation again!).

I also received an E-Mail from reader Sean Wilson, who had previously created a Colorado Rockies City Flag Color Logo and Uni Mockup of his own. Great stuff, Sean.

If any of you have creations or suggestions along these lines, please give me a shout. I love this stuff.

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Exclamation PointThe planned “Fixing The Brewers” piece, which had been scheduled to run next weekend, will be pushed back to September, as UW will be in hiatus until then. I have already received many fantastic submissions for this post, and I’ll be sending out an E-mail to all the graphic artists who have contacted me so far and have expressed interest in participating. This would be along the lines of The White Sox uniform piece which ran at the end of last month.

If you would like to take part in this (basically, it’s going to be an opportunity for anyone who is interested in ‘creating, tweaking or overhauling’ the uniforms for the Milwaukee Brewers to do so — and the efforts will be showcased in September), please contact me and put in the subject line “Brewers Uniform Concepts.” Also, if you don’t care about, or don’t want to participate in the Brewers redux, and there is another team you think needs a uniform overhaul, let me know. We will announce the next team to be “fixed” when the weekend UW returns next month.

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Reprinted From Last Evening’s Comments: (Thanks to Tony Miller for the tip) “Notre Dame has new practice football uniforms. See the last paragraph-plus (featuring a mention of Uni Watch by name) here.” Good GOD are those things horrid. Can’t wait to hear Paul’s take on them.

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timeoffSo, we’re going on vacation for a little while, but not until the end of next week (details here, in case you missed it). But this is my last weekend post until next month. Paul will still bringing you top notch stuff all next week though, so make sure you keep checking in.

I’ll be glad for the weekends off, but I’ll still be keeping tabs on things, so if you have any questions, or would like to submit anything, from a City Flag jersey to the Milwaukee Brewer uniform fix, to a “Guess The Game” submission or a new Indian Caveman uni combination we haven’t yet seen, please gimme a holler. Also, when we return, football season will be in full swing, so if you’re interested in working with me on some football pieces (especially historical stuff or uniform changes/upgrades, etc.) let me know in the next couple weeks and we can work on stuff while the board is on hiatus. OK? OK!

Thanks everyone, for everything! Have a great Sunday and I’ll see you the first weekend in September! And make sure to check out the HOF game tonight — love to get everyone’s first impressions of the Legacy unis.

 

130 comments to Tracking The Unis, Round 2, Part II

  • japanjohnny | August 9, 2009 at 7:25 am |

    Here’s the game:

    http://www.baseball-...

    From the outfield wall info the year was given and from the two final scores it was a quick search of box scores for Texas at Tampa (less frequent than White Sox at Indians), cross referenced that score by clicking on the date tab and also got the Angels game. A second click to that box got the link above.

  • japanjohnny | August 9, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    There is no way I can read that second scoreboard. Given the rainout and today’s date I’d like to guess the first night game at Wrigley but the Cubs scored and from what I can make out the scoreboard shows them with zilch and the opponent is wrong. They played the Phillies in that game and I think that says Houston. Magnification isn’t the problem, the numbers are just too blurry in the original shot to make out. The SP’s numbers for out of town games are the key, but I can’t pinpoint the year and don’t have a scorecard from Wrigley to break the code and even if I could and did, I can’t read the numbers.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    Oilers didn’t wear powder numbers on the road in ’60 (only year they wore the arabic numbers, so it isnt about a misunderstanding involving the year).

    Road numbers—and the stripes on the white socks—were red edged in powder.

    Here’s a ’61 card showing the ’60 arabic numbers on road jerseys and socks.
    http://farm3.static....
    A black and white clearly showing the numbers and stripes match the center stripe on the pants, not the helmet or outer pants stripes.
    http://farm4.static....
    And a card showing the pants…and the home unis, in color…
    http://farm3.static....

    Someone tell why it’s so hard for teams to look at an old photo or two, apply a little brainpower, and get things right?

    —Ricko

  • John M | August 9, 2009 at 9:12 am |

    Ugh. If my math is correct, the Cubs have worn their home pinstripes 27 times, the road grays 24 times, and the alternate blue jerseys 56 times. In other words, the Cubs have worn the supposed alternates more than the regular home and regular road jerseys combined! This stretches the meaning of the term alternate jerseys.

    Even the worst of the Cubs’ starting pitchers are better at playing baseball than I will ever be at anything. But that doesn’t mean that any given starter has any clue about the uniform traditions of either the Cubs or baseball at large. It’s absurd that the Cubs have turned over the visual identity of the franchise to employees who have other things to worry about and who are employed by the franchise for reasons other than uniform taste. It’s also absurd to pay a ridiculous amount of money to get into Wrigley on a brilliant sunny day and then see the team run onto the field in batting practice jerseys. If they insist on letting the starter pick the jersey, it should be limited to road games. Or perhaps a Zambrano targeted rule that only pitchers who have won 100 games for the Cubs get to pick the alternate.

  • aflfan | August 9, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment="344703"]Oilers didn’t wear powder numbers on the road in ’60 (only year they wore the arabic numbers, so it isnt about a misunderstanding involving the year).

    Road numbers—and the stripes on the white socks—were red edged in powder.

    Here’s a ’61 card showing the ’60 arabic numbers on road jerseys and socks.
    http://farm3.static....
    A black and white clearly showing the numbers and stripes match the center stripe on the pants, not the helmet or outer pants stripes.
    http://farm4.static....
    And a card showing the pants…and the home unis, in color…
    http://farm3.static....

    Someone tell why it’s so hard for teams to look at an old photo or two, apply a little brainpower, and get things right?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Come on Ricko, next thing you will want is Congress to act with logic and common sense.

  • David | August 9, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    i think the boston tracking is missing the blue jerseys.

  • Doug in GA | August 9, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    Those ND practice jerseys are horrid. I thought the same thing when I saw Tennessee’s version last week.

    Must be a new Adidas template.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    “Oilers didn’t wear powder numbers on the road in ‘60 (only year they wore the arabic numbers, so it isnt about a misunderstanding involving the year).”

    Further clarification…
    Oilers didn’t wear powder numbers on the road until 1964, when they added the three 49er-style sleeve stripes to the jersey. At the point the only red on the home or road unis was stiping on the helmet and the pants.
    See both photos here for that uni…
    http://farm4.static....
    Here they are in ’63, still with red road numbers….
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    And, lest anyone contend those 1960 Oilers socks stripes did NOT have a contrasting color edge…
    http://farm3.static....

  • SteveSmith | August 9, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    Even though their practice jerseys are awful, they are still going to dominate!
    GO IRISH!!!!

  • Patrick in MI | August 9, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    Anyone know the proper name for the font used on those Oilers throwbacks? Ricko called them Arabic, unsure if that’s the correct name. Then again, I could be wrong and all hail Ricko. It seems like a college team uses the same font, maybe a west coast team? Someone help me out here!

  • Greenie | August 9, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    Seeing as the Brewers are my team of choice, I probably should try to make a concept the uni over-haul you guys are putting together, but I think I’d rather just link to the best jerseys they’ve already worn and leave it at that.

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    And for Paul’s sake, put Milwaukee back on the road jersey!

    -Greenie

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment="344711"]Anyone know the proper name for the font used on those Oilers throwbacks? Ricko called them Arabic, unsure if that’s the correct name. Then again, I could be wrong and all hail Ricko. It seems like a college team uses the same font, maybe a west coast team? Someone help me out here![/quote]

    I just called them “arabic” cuz that’s what verbal descriptions of unis called such rounded numbers back then. Never did hear a formal name.

    As to who wore that style in college in the early ’60s…Washington did, so did Cal and Pitt. Those are the ones that come quickly to mind, anyway. UCLA of course wore a more ornate version that I believe I saw referred to as “full arabic”…whatever the hell that is. LOL

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    And Nebraska’s Devaney-era numerals (early ’60s, too) were like UCLA’s…but not quite.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    …or maybe it was “fancy arabic”, like the first Angels’ lettering was called “fancy block”.
    http://exhibits.base...

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    See? “Fancy block”.
    http://farm4.static....

  • JackTheSquid | August 9, 2009 at 11:15 am |

    For the second scoreboard, I looked for a Toronto win of “something” to 1 vs Oakland at home, which is shown in the finals column of the Wrigley scoreboard. The schedule on the scoreboard matched the date of 4 Aug 08, and the final score of the game is Houston 2 Cubs 0 in an 8 inning game.

  • Lou | August 9, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    The second game is this: http://baseball-alma...

    Since the picture was too blurry to see anything, I Googled Wrigley Field Scoreboard severe weather and voila! I knew it had to be somewhat recent as there is a new video portion of the scoreboard.

    This would have been a much clearer picture to use: http://i.dailyherald...

  • JackTheSquid | August 9, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    Here’s the link to the aforementioned game at Wrigley. http://www.baseball-...

  • Patrick in MI | August 9, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment="344713"][quote comment="344711"]Anyone know the proper name for the font used on those Oilers throwbacks? Ricko called them Arabic, unsure if that’s the correct name. Then again, I could be wrong and all hail Ricko. It seems like a college team uses the same font, maybe a west coast team? Someone help me out here![/quote]

    I just called them “arabic” cuz that’s what verbal descriptions of unis called such rounded numbers back then. Never did hear a formal name.

    As to who wore that style in college in the early ’60s…Washington did, so did Cal and Pitt. Those are the ones that come quickly to mind, anyway. UCLA of course wore a more ornate version that I believe I saw referred to as “full arabic”…whatever the hell that is. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    OK, Arabic sounds good to me! And I think it was the Huskies that wore that numeral font. It looks similar here, no? (Great photo too) http://i.cdn.turner....

    Also reminds me of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers throwbacks. http://www.nancarrow...

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment="344721"][quote comment="344713"][quote comment="344711"]Anyone know the proper name for the font used on those Oilers throwbacks? Ricko called them Arabic, unsure if that’s the correct name. Then again, I could be wrong and all hail Ricko. It seems like a college team uses the same font, maybe a west coast team? Someone help me out here![/quote]

    I just called them “arabic” cuz that’s what verbal descriptions of unis called such rounded numbers back then. Never did hear a formal name.

    As to who wore that style in college in the early ’60s…Washington did, so did Cal and Pitt. Those are the ones that come quickly to mind, anyway. UCLA of course wore a more ornate version that I believe I saw referred to as “full arabic”…whatever the hell that is. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]

    OK, Arabic sounds good to me! And I think it was the Huskies that wore that numeral font. It looks similar here, no? (Great photo too) http://i.cdn.turner....

    Also reminds me of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers throwbacks. http://www.nancarrow...

    Cal, too.
    http://farm3.static....
    http://farm3.static....

    You’re right, Blue Bombers used it, too. Forgot about them.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • Momofuku | August 9, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment="344710"]Even though their practice jerseys are awful, they are still going to dominate!
    GO IRISH!!!![/quote]

    They just might – they don’t have to play Syracuse this year.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    And, of course, the original Raiders…
    ’60 and ’61 in white edged in slightly metallic athletic gold…
    http://farm3.static....
    ’62, regular athletic gold on black…
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • timmy b | August 9, 2009 at 12:08 pm |

    Ricko,

    I, for one, am appreciating you finding the photos to back up some of claims and those of others.

    Much obliged.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    Most definitely Washington did.
    This from ’61 Rose Bowl…
    http://seattletimes....

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment="344725"]Ricko,

    I, for one, am appreciating you finding the photos to back up some of claims and those of others.

    Much obliged.[/quote]

    np. Nice to get some use out of all this stuff after all these years. Looking forward to prospecting for shots of the aberrant ’70s NFL jerseys. Know I have many (most?) of them.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    Another Huskies photo (obviously shot at practice; white pants).
    http://seattletimes....

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    Yeah, I’m an old fart…but I miss these Gopher unis…with shoulder loops and gold pants on the road. Plus, they shared or contended for national championships when they wore them. Always a plus.
    https://admin.xosn.c...

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment="344718"]The second game is this: http://baseball-alma...

    Since the picture was too blurry to see anything, I Googled Wrigley Field Scoreboard severe weather and voila! I knew it had to be somewhat recent as there is a new video portion of the scoreboard.

    This would have been a much clearer picture to use: http://i.dailyherald...

    great job lou…i wish i had had a better quality pic, but alas, did not (thanks for the better one)…but that’s a perfect way to solve the second one…i was hoping someone would take the “severe weather” portion of the board (which was visible) and run with it

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    Color-on-color in ’62 Rose Bowl.
    Think that was first football game telecast nationally in color.
    http://www.mmbolding...
    (have yet to see a color photo from that game, though, better keep digging)

    —Ricko

  • mtjaws | August 9, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    I again enjoyed all the baseball stuff, especially my fellow Marlins tracker.

    And I also enjoyed it because it is way too early for football!

  • JimV19 | August 9, 2009 at 12:37 pm |

    Found it! Finally.

    It was Namhob who came up with this pretty cool uni design for the Reds http://i400.photobuc...

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment="344733"]Found it! Finally.

    It was Namhob who came up with this pretty cool uni design for the Reds http://i400.photobuc...

    ah yes, mr. bohman’s work…great job (both to matthew bohman and you for finding it, jim)

  • JimV19 | August 9, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment="344729"]Yeah, I’m an old fart…but I miss these Gopher unis…with shoulder loops and gold pants on the road. Plus, they shared or contended for national championships when they wore them. Always a plus.
    https://admin.xosn.c...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I like those shoulder loops too. Any reason why the Vikes never wore them on their purple jerseys? They looked so good on the whites I thought it would make sense to keep the jerseys consistent.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment="344735"][quote comment="344729"]Yeah, I’m an old fart…but I miss these Gopher unis…with shoulder loops and gold pants on the road. Plus, they shared or contended for national championships when they wore them. Always a plus.
    https://admin.xosn.c...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I like those shoulder loops too. Any reason why the Vikes never wore them on their purple jerseys? They looked so good on the whites I thought it would make sense to keep the jerseys consistent.[/quote]

    Honestly, I think they were going to school on the Gophers, who did “Loops On Road Only” before them. Gotta remember, Gophers had bigger crowds than Vikings in early years (to a large extent becasue they could; Memorial Stadium held more people than the Met).

    Shoot, even the Vikings’ choice of purple and gold was a “bend” on maroon and gold. I think everyone around here pretty much knew that and accepted it.

    –Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:57 pm |

    So much for consistency in shades of purple in different materials…
    http://sportsillustr...

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm |

    And, no, Vikings’ helmets didn’t look that color in person. That photo is just…odd.

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm |

    viking went from stripes to loops on the roads in what, 69?

    and never took em off or put em on the homes

    well…until they did this…not quite sure what those are

    so ricko, other than taking stripes on/off the homes a couple times, and some different socks here and there (and facemask colors too), vikes were pretty much unchanged from the merger till 2006, right?

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 12:59 pm |

    “Horn” sure was bigger, though, wasn’t it.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment="344739"]viking went from stripes to loops on the roads in what, 69?

    and never took em off or put em on the homes

    well…until they did this…not quite sure what those are

    so ricko, other than taking stripes on/off the homes a couple times, and some different socks here and there (and facemask colors too), vikes were pretty much unchanged from the merger till 2006, right?[/quote]

    Up til they lost the NW-style sleeve stripes and put the “head” on the sleeves, yup. And even that wasn’t a HUGE variant.

    I am NOT a big fan of the new ones, btw. And the new purple pants should stay in storage, which is where they generally have been, thankfully.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | August 9, 2009 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment="344739"]viking went from stripes to loops on the roads in what, 69?

    and never took em off or put em on the homes

    well…until they did this…not quite sure what those are

    so ricko, other than taking stripes on/off the homes a couple times, and some different socks here and there (and facemask colors too), vikes were pretty much unchanged from the merger till 2006, right?[/quote]

    Those horn jerseys pale in comparison to this http://www.lsualumni...

    Wouldn’t want to see this, http://www.espnshop.... though.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    How ’bout Lance Alworth (who had his 69th birthday earlier this week) wearing #24, which he did is rookie year with Chargers in ’62?

    (note the misspelling of his last name in cutline, too)http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2505/3803735579_52ba2917e4.jpg

    Wow, The Hammer and Bambi together in one old photo!

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    Let’s try that link again.
    http://farm3.static....

  • interlockingtc | August 9, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    I think that the Oilers logo, so clean and simple yet very distinctive, is one of the NFL’s all-time best, particularly this white-on-blue version.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment="344742"][quote comment="344739"]viking went from stripes to loops on the roads in what, 69?

    and never took em off or put em on the homes

    well…until they did this…not quite sure what those are

    so ricko, other than taking stripes on/off the homes a couple times, and some different socks here and there (and facemask colors too), vikes were pretty much unchanged from the merger till 2006, right?[/quote]

    Those horn jerseys pale in comparison to this http://www.lsualumni...

    Wouldn’t want to see this, http://www.espnshop.... though.[/quote]

    A number of NFL teams regularly did “Shoulder Loops on Whites Only” back then: Vikings, Rams (royal-white years), Redskins (pre-Lombardi), 49ers and Eagles (’69 only).

    —Ricko

  • =bg= | August 9, 2009 at 1:21 pm |

    Lipstick on a Pig Dept:

    New name for the Oakland Mausoleum:

    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • LarryB | August 9, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    I am very anxious to see the AFL throwbacks.

    And Ricko great stuff from the AFL and Rosebowl. I too like those old Gopher uniforms

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    Someone was looking for the old gold Southern Mississippi jerseys the other day…
    http://www.sportscol...

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 1:43 pm |

    On the subject of throwbacks, Jets are wearing ’61 and ’62 uni design in ’60 colors.
    ’60 was old gold, which photographs like this…
    http://farm4.static....

    In ’61 and ’62 was athletic gold, which photographs a helluva lot lighter…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • Teebz | August 9, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    Hockey Day In Minnesota news:

    I was checking out the scheduling of events for the week, and I just noticed that it’s January 23, 2010, not February.

    Check your schedules if you plan on attending. Sorry for the wrong date earlier… it came from a usually-reliable source.

  • gusto | August 9, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment="344741"][quote comment="344739"]viking went from stripes to loops on the roads in what, 69?

    and never took em off or put em on the homes

    well…until they did this…not quite sure what those are

    so ricko, other than taking stripes on/off the homes a couple times, and some different socks here and there (and facemask colors too), vikes were pretty much unchanged from the merger till 2006, right?[/quote]

    Up til they lost the NW-style sleeve stripes and put the “head” on the sleeves, yup. And even that wasn’t a HUGE variant.

    I am NOT a big fan of the new ones, btw. And the new purple pants should stay in storage, which is where they generally have been, thankfully.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Along with the Vikings, Atlanta and Arizona also took a step back in their newer uniforms, IMO.

  • Teebz | August 9, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment="344751"]Hockey Day In Minnesota news:

    I was checking out the scheduling of events for the week, and I just noticed that it’s January 23, 2010, not February.

    Check your schedules if you plan on attending. Sorry for the wrong date earlier… it came from a usually-reliable source.[/quote]

    I have more bad news.

    The US Pond Hockey Championships are not in Minnesota this year. They’ve been moved to Eagle River, Wisconsin on February 12-14. The World Pond Hockey Championships are in Plaster Rock, New Brunswick on February 11-14.

    There are three outdoor games, however, being played on Saturday, January 23 in Hermantown, MN along with a Gophers game and a Wild game in Minny for HDIM.

    Suddenly, this entire idea if HDIM isn’t as grand as it sounds. Anyone up for a trip to Eagle Rock, Wisconsin? It’s about 200 miles east of Minneapolis.

  • Teebz | August 9, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment="344753"][quote comment="344751"]Hockey Day In Minnesota news:

    I was checking out the scheduling of events for the week, and I just noticed that it’s January 23, 2010, not February.

    Check your schedules if you plan on attending. Sorry for the wrong date earlier… it came from a usually-reliable source.[/quote]

    I have more bad news.

    The US Pond Hockey Championships are not in Minnesota this year. They’ve been moved to Eagle River, Wisconsin on February 12-14. The World Pond Hockey Championships are in Plaster Rock, New Brunswick on February 11-14.

    There are three outdoor games, however, being played on Saturday, January 23 in Hermantown, MN along with a Gophers game and a Wild game in Minny for HDIM.

    Suddenly, this entire idea if HDIM isn’t as grand as it sounds. Anyone up for a trip to Eagle River, Wisconsin? It’s about 200 miles east of Minneapolis.[/quote]

    I had the wrong name in there. Eagle River, WI is the place to be.

  • Hibbsy | August 9, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    The “7″ digit on the Pirates uniform looks atrocious. It’s a busted ass “2″.
    I hadn’t noticed. Sorry if it’s been discussed.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment="344754"][quote comment="344753"][quote comment="344751"]Hockey Day In Minnesota news:

    I was checking out the scheduling of events for the week, and I just noticed that it’s January 23, 2010, not February.

    Check your schedules if you plan on attending. Sorry for the wrong date earlier… it came from a usually-reliable source.[/quote]

    I have more bad news.

    The US Pond Hockey Championships are not in Minnesota this year. They’ve been moved to Eagle River, Wisconsin on February 12-14. The World Pond Hockey Championships are in Plaster Rock, New Brunswick on February 11-14.

    There are three outdoor games, however, being played on Saturday, January 23 in Hermantown, MN along with a Gophers game and a Wild game in Minny for HDIM.

    Suddenly, this entire idea if HDIM isn’t as grand as it sounds. Anyone up for a trip to Eagle River, Wisconsin? It’s about 200 miles east of Minneapolis.[/quote]

    I had the wrong name in there. Eagle River, WI is the place to be.[/quote]

    Is that a recent develeopment? Cuz this is website I’d been referencing. And I had the month wrong, too (smacks forehead)
    http://www.pondhocke...

    —Ricko

  • Teebz | August 9, 2009 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment="344756"][quote comment="344754"][quote comment="344753"][quote comment="344751"]Hockey Day In Minnesota news:

    I was checking out the scheduling of events for the week, and I just noticed that it’s January 23, 2010, not February.

    Check your schedules if you plan on attending. Sorry for the wrong date earlier… it came from a usually-reliable source.[/quote]

    I have more bad news.

    The US Pond Hockey Championships are not in Minnesota this year. They’ve been moved to Eagle River, Wisconsin on February 12-14. The World Pond Hockey Championships are in Plaster Rock, New Brunswick on February 11-14.

    There are three outdoor games, however, being played on Saturday, January 23 in Hermantown, MN along with a Gophers game and a Wild game in Minny for HDIM.

    Suddenly, this entire idea if HDIM isn’t as grand as it sounds. Anyone up for a trip to Eagle River, Wisconsin? It’s about 200 miles east of Minneapolis.[/quote]

    I had the wrong name in there. Eagle River, WI is the place to be.[/quote]

    Is that a recent develeopment? Cuz this is website I’d been referencing. And I had the month wrong, too (smacks forehead)
    http://www.pondhocke...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ahhh… the North American Championships!

    I searched for every championship I could find, and never thought of a North American Championship.

    Alright! It’s back on! Good find, Ricko! :o)

  • =bg= | August 9, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment="344750"]On the subject of throwbacks, Jets are wearing ’61 and ’62 uni design in ’60 colors.
    ’60 was old gold, which photographs like this…
    http://farm4.static....

    In ’61 and ’62 was athletic gold, which photographs a helluva lot lighter…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Why do the photos say Art Powell of the Titans and Art Powell of the Raiders, and it’s the same shot?

  • =bg= | August 9, 2009 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment="344752"][quote comment="344741"][quote comment="344739"]viking went from stripes to loops on the roads in what, 69?

    and never took em off or put em on the homes

    well…until they did this…not quite sure what those are

    so ricko, other than taking stripes on/off the homes a couple times, and some different socks here and there (and facemask colors too), vikes were pretty much unchanged from the merger till 2006, right?[/quote]

    Up til they lost the NW-style sleeve stripes and put the “head” on the sleeves, yup. And even that wasn’t a HUGE variant.

    I am NOT a big fan of the new ones, btw. And the new purple pants should stay in storage, which is where they generally have been, thankfully.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Along with the Vikings, Atlanta and Arizona also took a step back in their newer uniforms, IMO.[/quote]

    That is precisely correct. Those three seem to have used the same template, esp with that stupid squiggly fat-then-skinny pant stripe, which I despite.

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment="344757"][quote comment="344756"][quote comment="344754"][quote comment="344753"][quote comment="344751"]Hockey Day In Minnesota news:

    I was checking out the scheduling of events for the week, and I just noticed that it’s January 23, 2010, not February.

    Check your schedules if you plan on attending. Sorry for the wrong date earlier… it came from a usually-reliable source.[/quote]

    I have more bad news.

    The US Pond Hockey Championships are not in Minnesota this year. They’ve been moved to Eagle River, Wisconsin on February 12-14. The World Pond Hockey Championships are in Plaster Rock, New Brunswick on February 11-14.

    There are three outdoor games, however, being played on Saturday, January 23 in Hermantown, MN along with a Gophers game and a Wild game in Minny for HDIM.

    Suddenly, this entire idea if HDIM isn’t as grand as it sounds. Anyone up for a trip to Eagle River, Wisconsin? It’s about 200 miles east of Minneapolis.[/quote]

    I had the wrong name in there. Eagle River, WI is the place to be.[/quote]

    Is that a recent develeopment? Cuz this is website I’d been referencing. And I had the month wrong, too (smacks forehead)
    http://www.pondhocke...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ahhh… the North American Championships!

    I searched for every championship I could find, and never thought of a North American Championship.

    Alright! It’s back on! Good find, Ricko! :o)[/quote]

    (insert “phew” icon here)

    so all we need to change is the date of the event logo

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment="344758"][quote comment="344750"]On the subject of throwbacks, Jets are wearing ’61 and ’62 uni design in ’60 colors.
    ’60 was old gold, which photographs like this…
    http://farm4.static....

    In ’61 and ’62 was athletic gold, which photographs a helluva lot lighter…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Why do the photos say Art Powell of the Titans and Art Powell of the Raiders, and it’s the same shot?[/quote]

    well — look at the second shot — clearly that’s the titans not da raidah’s…so it’s a mistake

    good catch brinke

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment="344757"][quote comment="344756"][quote comment="344754"][quote comment="344753"][quote comment="344751"]Hockey Day In Minnesota news:

    I was checking out the scheduling of events for the week, and I just noticed that it’s January 23, 2010, not February.

    Check your schedules if you plan on attending. Sorry for the wrong date earlier… it came from a usually-reliable source.[/quote]

    I have more bad news.

    The US Pond Hockey Championships are not in Minnesota this year. They’ve been moved to Eagle River, Wisconsin on February 12-14. The World Pond Hockey Championships are in Plaster Rock, New Brunswick on February 11-14.

    There are three outdoor games, however, being played on Saturday, January 23 in Hermantown, MN along with a Gophers game and a Wild game in Minny for HDIM.

    Suddenly, this entire idea if HDIM isn’t as grand as it sounds. Anyone up for a trip to Eagle River, Wisconsin? It’s about 200 miles east of Minneapolis.[/quote]

    I had the wrong name in there. Eagle River, WI is the place to be.[/quote]

    Is that a recent develeopment? Cuz this is website I’d been referencing. And I had the month wrong, too (smacks forehead)
    http://www.pondhocke...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ahhh… the North American Championships!

    I searched for every championship I could find, and never thought of a North American Championship.

    Alright! It’s back on! Good find, Ricko! :o)[/quote]

    I should point that, unlike the previous location at Lake Nokomis, there are numerous places to go indoors and warm up at the Lake Minnetonka site. Two of them, at least (Maynard’s and Bayside), even offer libations. Really.

    I used to live out that way (son once worked at Bayside, daughter at Maynard’s) and Maynard’s is kind of an “in” place. Lotta Twins hang out there, I know.

    So right there is proof we have picked a MUCH better year than years past.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment="344761"][quote comment="344758"][quote comment="344750"]On the subject of throwbacks, Jets are wearing ’61 and ’62 uni design in ’60 colors.
    ’60 was old gold, which photographs like this…
    http://farm4.static....

    In ’61 and ’62 was athletic gold, which photographs a helluva lot lighter…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Why do the photos say Art Powell of the Titans and Art Powell of the Raiders, and it’s the same shot?[/quote]

    well — look at the second shot — clearly that’s the titans not da raidah’s…so it’s a mistake

    good catch brinke[/quote]

    Because back then annuals routinely used old photos. Just wasn’t the access to photophahy that there is today (plus, the clown who wrote the cutline probably didn’t know the Titans unis from the Raiders, anyway). First photo is from a pub probably two years before the second. I forgot to mention that when I posted the photos today (although I did the first time, way back when).

    —Ricko

  • Kek | August 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    Wow, seeing those Tennessee and ND practice unis makes me glad that Pitt is going Nike. (I reserved the right to change my mind following tomorrow, when I think the game unis are being unveiled!)

    In other Pittsburgh news, looks like the entire Pirates’ team is going highcuffed, and Zach Duke may or may not be wearing stirrups. (Hard to tell and I’m at my Mom’s and she doesn’t have a DVR).

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    Since we’ve talked flag etiquette here in the past, I’d like to ask a question.

    For bottom of 7th just now in Detroit, some blonde sang “God Bless America” with the fans and Twins standing with their hats, or hands, over their heart.

    It’s a great, patriotic, inspiring song, yes, but when did it become the National Anthem? Cuz, k’know, that and when the flag passes are times to remove our hats, etc.

    Right?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm |

    A thought on the new ND practice jerseys. Not talking specifics of the design now, but for a team with unis as basic as theirs (even moreso lately) is there maybe a coaching logic that says, “Okay, practice is a grind, let’s jazz up the jerseys a little. But, on Saturdays…we’re all business.”

    As I said, just a thought.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 3:46 pm |

    Okay, wasn’t “some blonde” who sang. Was Detroit native Karen Newman, here singing for her Wings.
    http://image16.websh...

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment="344767"]Okay, wasn’t “some blonde” who sang. Was Detroit native Karen Newman, here singing for her Wings.
    http://image16.websh...

    that’s some blonde

  • JTH | August 9, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    Guess the scoreboard answers:

    Game 1
    I knew that it had to either be from this season or last, based on the date clues. The Rangers have not played in St. Petersburg yet this year, so I just found a Rangers at Rays game from last year where the Rays won 5-3 and cross-referenced it with a 6-5 White Sox/Indians game. (I didn’t know if the other two games were final scores, so I didn’t look at them.)

    Game 2
    I remember this happening.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 3:58 pm |

    Link gone.
    Try another one.
    http://www.crashthec...

  • JTH | August 9, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment="344707"]Those ND practice jerseys are horrid. I thought the same thing when I saw Tennessee’s version last week.

    Must be a new Adidas template.[/quote]
    Yep. Clearly a template. Hoosiers are also wearing them.

  • Chris F. | August 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm |

    Ugh, the Adidas practice uniform template is ATROCIOUS!

    Oh and I wanna say that I love Ricko’s work. He’s a treasure trove of information and photos too :D

  • rpm | August 9, 2009 at 4:41 pm |

    phil~ enjoy the vacation! you have been working hard, you deserve it.

    just went to chinatown to get a few dozen steamers. unfortunately they only had sooks, no jimmies, but you have to take what you can get here in chitown when it comes to blues. anyway, about a half dozen of us are going to have a mixed doubles bags tourney and i am obviously steaming crabs, so if you want to hop on a southwest flight, we are kicking it of in a couple hours.
    __________________

    saturday’s benchies, har.

  • Bucket | August 9, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    In this photo the official’s socks have 2 stripes in on them yet it appears that there will be no stripes on the throwback uniforms for the officials. What is going on?

    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    http://farm4.static....

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment="344774"]In this photo the official’s socks have 2 stripes in on them yet it appears that there will be no stripes on the throwback uniforms for the officials. What is going on?

    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    http://farm4.static....

    A number of the team uniforms have inaccuracies, so I suppose we shouldn’t expect the officials’ gear to be exempt.

  • mike 2 | August 9, 2009 at 7:22 pm |

    [quote comment="344765"]
    It’s a great, patriotic, inspiring song, yes, but when did it become the National Anthem? [/quote]

    August, 2008

    http://www.fac.org/n...

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 7:42 pm |

    [quote comment="344776"][quote comment="344765"]
    It’s a great, patriotic, inspiring song, yes, but when did it become the National Anthem? [/quote]

    August, 2008

    http://www.fac.org/n...

    if it was ronan tynan’s version, the dude could have taken a crap, bought a yankee frank AND hit the souveneir shop and still made it back to his seat before the song ended…

  • JTH | August 9, 2009 at 7:48 pm |

    [quote comment="344773"]phil~ enjoy the vacation! you have been working hard, you deserve it.[/quote]
    I concur. You (both) definitely deserve a break. As a matter of fact, I’ve always thought there should be a few more “snow days” scattered throughout the year. And a little Saturday/Sunday Open Thread ain’t never hurt nobody.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Now what do I change the NOB on my Patrick Kane jersey to?

    I was thinking something along the lines of “EXACT CHANGE ONLY”.

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 8:01 pm |

    [quote comment="344778"][quote comment="344773"]phil~ enjoy the vacation! you have been working hard, you deserve it.[/quote]
    I concur. You (both) definitely deserve a break. As a matter of fact, I’ve always thought there should be a few more “snow days” scattered throughout the year. And a little Saturday/Sunday Open Thread ain’t never hurt nobody.[/quote]

    thanks james and robert…really, much appreciated

    now…

    are you ready for some football?

  • LarryB | August 9, 2009 at 8:08 pm |

    Anybody catch that cool throwback float?

    Old style football player with leather helmet.
    Sweet

  • LarryB | August 9, 2009 at 8:11 pm |

    [quote comment="344770"]Link gone.
    Try another one.
    http://www.crashthec...

    WOW WOW WOW

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 8:12 pm |

    Up close, Bills look like some LSD-induced combination of the SMU (Dickerson era) and Florida Atlantic. From a distance, look okay.

    Props to “Oilers” for the black shoes.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 8:13 pm |

    looks like buffalo fixed the pants (from this)

    lookin’ good (both teams)

  • JJD | August 9, 2009 at 8:13 pm |

    This HoF game is uni-bonerrific.

  • =bg= | August 9, 2009 at 8:15 pm |

    If I was the Bills owner, I’d be keeping that look.
    I like the ref’s, too- they stand out (!) more.
    Been to HOF- but didn’t see a game there. A great place.

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 8:16 pm |

    9 sticker looks small (comparatively)…not too over the top either

  • JJD | August 9, 2009 at 8:18 pm |

    I *do* have to say, though, now that I see the blue Oiler helmets I prefer the white ones. This look is a bit too monochromatic for my taste. JMO.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 8:19 pm |

    Since the punter scored on his first NFL play, I’ll ask this trivia question for y’all to ponder…

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    —Ricko

  • Alex Poterack | August 9, 2009 at 8:21 pm |

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?

  • =bg= | August 9, 2009 at 8:22 pm |

    PS- I like CC; used to listen to him on WLW and in fact he and I and another guy went to see Rodney Dangerfield one night; but I miss Madden. BAM! BOOM!

  • Alex Poterack | August 9, 2009 at 8:24 pm |

    Nevermind, apparently Stieb somehow had an at-bat in 1980. I’m eagerly awaiting hearing what was special about it.

  • Marcus Hall - Lets play 162!! | August 9, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    What’s that green sticker all about???

    KIDDING!!

    Both teams look great. Refs too!

    Just kinda odd to see the Revolution helmets though

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment="344789"]

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?[/quote]

    Nope. In the 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night). Fred Lynn had come up a little lame and KC Manager Jim Frey had to make switches early. So, trailing by only a run in the 9th, Frey was out of position players and he had to let Steib hit. He struck out.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote] 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night)[/quote]

    any all-blue indians?

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 8:28 pm |

    [quote comment="344793"][quote comment="344789"]

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?[/quote]

    Nope. In the 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night). Fred Lynn had come up a little lame and KC Manager Jim Frey had to make switches early. So, trailing by only a run in the 9th, Frey was out of position players and he had to let Steib hit. He struck out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    If Steib had an at bat in ’80, the announcing team for ’81 ASG didn’t know about it. LOL

    —Ricko

  • LarryB | August 9, 2009 at 8:28 pm |

    That was a sweet fake and run by former Buckeye punter AJ Trepasso. I have been reading a book about Ohio State legend Chic Harley. Ohio State’s first superstar. Back in 1916-1919. Chic Harley would often fake punts and run for TDs

    Anyhow I love the Oiler throwbacks. I like the standing buffalo a lot too but I prefer it on the helmet with a single red stripe.

  • Alex Poterack | August 9, 2009 at 8:29 pm |

    Ah, but apparently that was Stieb’s 2nd major league at-bat; he flew out to CF in the 15th inning of a game against the Twins in 1980, according to this:

    http://www.baseball-...

    Oddly enough, he was officially the left fielder at the time.

    Needless to say, I would’ve had no idea if I hadn’t gone to his bref page trying to figure this out.

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 8:31 pm |

    one HUGE complaint…

    truncated sleeve stripes completely suck and look like shit

    they should do like ricko has suggested and just not bother with them at all, instead wearing compression jerseys underneath with proper striping around them

    i think rick has a few samples of what im trying to describe

  • James Craven | August 9, 2009 at 8:32 pm |

    And our second inaccuraccy note: The ALF refs unis had blue numbers with white trim. The ones they’re wearing are red with blue trim…

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 8:32 pm |

    [quote comment="344794"][quote] 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night)[/quote]

    and all-blue indians?[/quote]

    Only watched last few innings cuz tape hadn’t been rewound. And it isn’t the complete broadcast. One of those “Baseball’s Greatest Games”, hosted by Steve Garvey. But, damn, it sure was more colorful than MLB these days.

    Oh, and Astros manager Bill Virdon was coaching first…in the road Sunrise shoulders. It was a gray uniform. A bit lighter than other teams’ but definitly gray, not cream. Nolan Ryan was the “closer”, too. In same uni. Gray, definitely gray.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment="344798"]one HUGE complaint…

    truncated sleeve stripes completely suck and look like shit

    they should do like ricko has suggested and just not bother with them at all, instead wearing compression jerseys underneath with proper striping around them

    i think rick has a few samples of what im trying to describe[/quote]

    You want me to post those AGAIN? lol
    Ohhhh….okay.
    49ers…
    http://farm4.static....
    Bengals, part of a redesign to use Princeton stripes (long sleeve version, could be half-sleeve, too, of course)…
    http://farm4.static....
    Packers…
    http://farm3.static....

    Eventually gonna mess around with Steelers, Giants road and others, too.

    —Ricko

  • Jerry | August 9, 2009 at 8:43 pm |

    [quote comment="344788"]Since the punter scored on his first NFL play, I’ll ask this trivia question for y’all to ponder…

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    —Ricko[/quote]
    It came in the 1981 All-Star game and he wore a Mariners’ helmet.

  • aflfan | August 9, 2009 at 8:46 pm |

    I love the throw back Oilers uni’s

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 8:48 pm |

    [quote comment="344801"]Bengals, part of a redesign to use Princeton stripes (long sleeve version, could be half-sleeve, too, of course)…
    http://farm4.static....

    there is just so much to like about that bengals makeover…not just the sleeves, but the WHOLE damn thing

    nice work on that

  • Joe Barrie | August 9, 2009 at 8:49 pm |

    I agree with Ricko about “God Bless America” I was at Fenway Park this past July 4th when it was inflicted on all of us as though it were the National Anthem during the 7th inning stretch.

    This pseudo-patriotic kitsch is what I would expect of Randy Levine and the Yankees, but evidently it’s infecting more of baseball. I vote for stopping it ASAP.

  • mike 2 | August 9, 2009 at 8:57 pm |

    [quote comment="344797"]Ah, but apparently that was Stieb’s 2nd major league at-bat; he flew out to CF in the 15th inning of a game against the Twins in 1980, according to this:

    http://www.baseball-...

    Oddly enough, he was officially the left fielder at the time.

    Needless to say, I would’ve had no idea if I hadn’t gone to his bref page trying to figure this out.[/quote]

    I remember listening to that game on the radio (Tom Cheek). They Jays lost their DH in the 13th or 14th, which necessitated some strange moves.

    Stieb was originally an outfielder and was converted to a pitcher in the minors, so it wasn’t completely insane.

  • Fred | August 9, 2009 at 9:16 pm |

    In the HOF game, I was watching Randall McDaniel’s interview at about 3:00 left in the 2nd. Over McDaniel’s right shoulder was a person on the sideline, wearing a neon green hat. The Brown’s helmet logo was on the set of headphones he was wearing. Maybe the Bills or Titans forgot some gear and had to borrow things from the Browns?

  • Jason | August 9, 2009 at 9:26 pm |

    http://chriscooley47...

    Just thought that all you folks here should know that The NFL is cracking down this year on uniform violations.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 9:53 pm |

    [quote comment="344807"]In the HOF game, I was watching Randall McDaniel’s interview at about 3:00 left in the 2nd. Over McDaniel’s right shoulder was a person on the sideline, wearing a neon green hat. The Brown’s helmet logo was on the set of headphones he was wearing. Maybe the Bills or Titans forgot some gear and had to borrow things from the Browns?[/quote]

    Networks hire local technicians. They don’t take everybody and their brother from game to game. So it might just be someone working sideline sound, or something, and he’s wearing his Browns cap. I imagine he shouldn’t be, but that would explain it.

    —Ricko

  • Eric B in KC | August 9, 2009 at 10:05 pm |

    love the Bengals re-do, ricko. those unis would take Cincy from last in the league to the top 10 (maybe top 5) if they ever went that route.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 10:13 pm |

    Here’s Giants with stripes moved to compression sleeves, and TVs from shoulders to sleeves…as they were on the unis the Giants are based on….
    http://farm4.static....

    Thanks for compliments on Bengals redo.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | August 9, 2009 at 10:22 pm |

    [quote comment="344793"][quote comment="344789"]

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?[/quote]

    Nope. In the 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night). Fred Lynn had come up a little lame and KC Manager Jim Frey had to make switches early. So, trailing by only a run in the 9th, Frey was out of position players and he had to let Steib hit. He struck out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Did you see someone in the right field seats wearing a gold Pirates jersey? I was at that game (my cousin ended up with free tickets and took me). It was cool to see Steib batting. I was rooting for the NL but I wanted him to crush one.

    Huge birthday party today…so tired…must…watch football…

    Hey, here’s an idea – how about just having Collinsworth and Dungy announce the games? Tony sounds pretty good.

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment="344811"]Here’s Giants with stripes moved to compression sleeves, and TVs from shoulders to sleeves…as they were on the unis the Giants are based on….
    http://farm4.static....

    Thanks for compliments on Bengals redo.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    awesome, once again…

    now, if we can just work on that giants uniform…

    how bout da bears next…maybe something along these lines? :)

  • Michael Emody | August 9, 2009 at 10:26 pm |

    The Bills must have filled out a written work order for the white throwbacks, and in the “Sleeve” box wrote something like:
    4 lines – red outside, blue inside:
    =
    =

    A photo would have helped.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 10:28 pm |

    Redskins with stripes on compression sleeves…
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • Original Jim | August 9, 2009 at 10:41 pm |

    The font used for the Titans throwbacks is unofficially referred to as “NCAA Gothic”, probably since it’s used more often in the college ranks.

    It may have been first used for college uniforms, but I have not been able to find any conclusive documentation.

    It has also been called “Nike Gothic”, since I have only seen it used by NCAA teams sponsored by Nike.

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment="344816"]The font used for the Titans throwbacks is unofficially referred to as “NCAA Gothic”, probably since it’s used more often in the college ranks.

    It may have been first used for college uniforms, but I have not been able to find any conclusive documentation.

    It has also been called “Nike Gothic”, since I have only seen it used by NCAA teams sponsored by Nike.[/quote]

    Except for the teams that used it 50 years ago. LOL

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 10:46 pm |

    [quote comment="344812"][quote comment="344793"][quote comment="344789"]

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?[/quote]

    Nope. In the 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night). Fred Lynn had come up a little lame and KC Manager Jim Frey had to make switches early. So, trailing by only a run in the 9th, Frey was out of position players and he had to let Steib hit. He struck out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Did you see someone in the right field seats wearing a gold Pirates jersey? I was at that game (my cousin ended up with free tickets and took me). It was cool to see Steib batting. I was rooting for the NL but I wanted him to crush one.

    Huge birthday party today…so tired…must…watch football…

    Hey, here’s an idea – how about just having Collinsworth and Dungy announce the games? Tony sounds pretty good.[/quote]

    That was YOU????

  • JTH | August 9, 2009 at 11:00 pm |

    [quote comment="344799"]And our second inaccuraccy note: The ALF refs unis had blue numbers with white trim. The ones they’re wearing are red with blue trim…[/quote]
    Gordon Shumway is the ref tonight?

    HA! I kill me!

  • JimV19 | August 9, 2009 at 11:00 pm |

    [quote comment="344818"][quote comment="344812"][quote comment="344793"][quote comment="344789"]

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?[/quote]

    Nope. In the 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night). Fred Lynn had come up a little lame and KC Manager Jim Frey had to make switches early. So, trailing by only a run in the 9th, Frey was out of position players and he had to let Steib hit. He struck out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Did you see someone in the right field seats wearing a gold Pirates jersey? I was at that game (my cousin ended up with free tickets and took me). It was cool to see Steib batting. I was rooting for the NL but I wanted him to crush one.

    Huge birthday party today…so tired…must…watch football…

    Hey, here’s an idea – how about just having Collinsworth and Dungy announce the games? Tony sounds pretty good.[/quote]

    That was YOU????[/quote]

    Now you didn’t really see me, did you?

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 11:03 pm |

    The guys with no pants, right?
    The one who inspired Drew Carey to write “Moon Over Parma Tonight”?

  • JimV19 | August 9, 2009 at 11:11 pm |

    [quote comment="344821"]The guys with no pants, right?
    The one who inspired Drew Carey to write “Moon Over Parma Tonight”?[/quote]

    Nah, fully clad for that one. I do enjoy a good polka, though…

  • JTH | August 9, 2009 at 11:11 pm |

    OK, yeah, I loved the throwbacks tonight. And the officials for the most part looked great. But the ref’s hat? Turrible, just turrible. The rest of the crew looked good in the white caps, but that orange monstrosity was not pleasing to the eyes.

    Where’d they come up with that color, anyway? Looks like someone ate a huge beet salad one day and then took a leak and admired the color of his urine.

  • Jon in SLC | August 9, 2009 at 11:20 pm |

    [quote comment="344803"]I love the throw back Oilers uni’s[/quote]

    I’m in total agreement. Love the Oilers look. I know everyone is in awe of the Bills throwbacks, but the 1960 Houston look puts a smile on my face.

  • LI Phil | August 9, 2009 at 11:26 pm |

    jth channeling sir chas

    classic

  • Paul Lukas | August 9, 2009 at 11:27 pm |

    [quote comment="344793"][quote comment="344789"]

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?[/quote]

    Nope. In the 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night). Fred Lynn had come up a little lame and KC Manager Jim Frey had to make switches early. So, trailing by only a run in the 9th, Frey was out of position players and he had to let Steib hit. He struck out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You’re leaving out the best part: He wore a Mariners helmet for that at-bat!:
    http://farm4.static....

  • Ricko | August 9, 2009 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment="344826"][quote comment="344793"][quote comment="344789"]

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?[/quote]

    Nope. In the 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night). Fred Lynn had come up a little lame and KC Manager Jim Frey had to make switches early. So, trailing by only a run in the 9th, Frey was out of position players and he had to let Steib hit. He struck out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You’re leaving out the best part: He wore a Mariners helmet for that at-bat!:
    http://farm4.static....

    In my defense, I was lying in bed sans glasses, more listening than watching by then.

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | August 9, 2009 at 11:43 pm |

    [quote comment="344827"][quote comment="344826"][quote comment="344793"][quote comment="344789"]

    Dave Stieb. First ace of Blue Jays’ pitching staff, right? There was something unusual about his first major league at bat. What was it?

    I’m guessing that it came in the World Series?[/quote]

    Nope. In the 1981 All-Star Game (watched the last few innings on my VHS of it last night). Fred Lynn had come up a little lame and KC Manager Jim Frey had to make switches early. So, trailing by only a run in the 9th, Frey was out of position players and he had to let Steib hit. He struck out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    You’re leaving out the best part: He wore a Mariners helmet for that at-bat!:
    http://farm4.static....

    In my defense, I was lying in bed sans glasses, more listening than watching by then.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I have an old Mel Allen video of that game. I’ll have to look at it tomorrow and see if there are any other oddities the “This Week in Baseball” staff were able to find. Maybe blue pants??

  • Nick | August 10, 2009 at 12:24 am |

    Thanks Rick.

    That’s a real uni.

    The only team that I know of currently wearing that acceptable shade of Old Gold is the UT-Chattanooga

  • japanjohnny | August 10, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    [quote comment="344718"]The second game is this: http://baseball-alma...

    Since the picture was too blurry to see anything, I Googled Wrigley Field Scoreboard severe weather and voila! I knew it had to be somewhat recent as there is a new video portion of the scoreboard.

    This would have been a much clearer picture to use: http://i.dailyherald...

    Brilliant! I tried googling “Cubs rainouts” and came up with nothing. Thought it was recent because of the speakers (featured recently on another scoreboard) but didn’t think about the scrolling text.

    Nice pic too-would have got it with that one.

  • D_Runner37 | August 10, 2009 at 9:56 am |

    The new city flag mock up for the Rockies is actually using the Colorado state flag and not the Denver city flag.