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We All Know Ichiro Would’ve Won

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I know, that screen shot looks like it’s from a video game, but it’s actually Carlos Peña from last night’s home run derby, where his Rays logo sleeve patch was upside-down (it’s supposed to look like this). Peña’s BP pitcher had an inverted patch as well, as you can see here.

Me, I didn’t see any of it cuz I was off at Keyspan Park watching Wilco and Yo La Tengo (whose frontman, Ira Kaplan, wore a Mr. Met T-shirt and lobbed a bunch of baseballs into the crowd because, as he put it, “That’s why you come to a baseball stadium, to get a foul ball, right?”).

Thanks to Tim Graham, Kevin “Lunchbox” Monahan, Greg Riffenburgh, and Tim Burke for their eagles eyes and screen shots. Thanks also to Phil, who notes that the A.L. and N.L. caps bore at least superficial resemblances to certain past and present team logos.

New ESPN column today, revisiting a topic we first debated here last fall, but now with some new information added to the mix. Look here.

Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day for the Man City soccer jersey raffle. Details here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: “Strange things going on with Michael Owen at Monday’s Manchester United training,” writes Mike Orr. “Articles have him taking on the coveted No. 7 shirt for United (previously worn by the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, David Beckham and George Best). But in two separate photos today he appears to have a 15 and 19 training shirt on. No clue what’s up with all that.” … Lots of good stuff in this 1984 All-Star Game slideshow. … Lots of CFL retro action in store for the Calgary Stampeders, Winnipeg Blue Bombers, and B.C. Lions (with thanks to Richard Musterer). … “I had one of the weirdest uni experiences while watching the U.S. military all stars,” writes Paul Friedlander. “They had camo pants, brown jerseys, and camo helmets. Some of them wore camo hats, others wore brown. To make it even weirder, they had a couple of ‘Latin Stars’ playing with them wearing red jerseys and gray pants. But the craziest part was the back: the NOBs were important names linked to their uni numbers.” Bizarre, right? Additional examples here, here, and here. … HHH has added more designs to his collection of city flag jerseys. … Super-cool Michigan hockey jersey, circa 1947 (with thanks to Tom Wilcox). … Luis Castillo had a piece of gum on the back of his batting helmet on Sunday. Additional views here. … Jim Ransdell found a notebook where he’d designed some modern NBA logo concepts back when he was in high school, over 20 years ago. … Chris Cooley has some thoughts about the NFL’s uni rules. Scroll down to No. 3 on the “Ten Things I Think I Think” list on this page (with thanks to Jake Reed). … Steve Mandich has updated his collection of All-Star Game ballots.

 

289 comments to We All Know Ichiro Would’ve Won

  • Peter Wunsch | July 14, 2009 at 8:27 am |

    The SF Giants stated the other night that Jonathan Sanchez was the first Giant left to pitch a no-hitter since 1929.

    After looking at the ’84 picture, I guess he is now the only Giant lefty to pitch a no-no.

    PS Maybe Atlee Hammaker should have tried using the other arm in that game!!!

  • PuckyTheWhale | July 14, 2009 at 8:34 am |

    Can anybody help me find a specific photo? I am looking for the original photograph that the box cover/cartridge label of Tecmo Super Bowl III was based on. It shows QB Todd Marinovich of the LA Raiders getting creamed by a bunch of Buffalo Bills. His head is turned at an awkward angle as if his facemask is being pulled, but the hand near it is not touching the facemask.

    I remember back in the 90’s when this game came out, I saw the original photograph that this cover/label was based off of, and in that photo a hand was indeed pulling the facemask. I always assumed they modified it so Tecmo wouldn’t get sued when a youth player pulled an opponent’s facemask in a game because he saw it on Tecmo, and then broke the opponent’s neck.

    Anyway, I am looking for this original photo. I’ve scoured the internet, using all sorts of different search terms in Google image search, but no luck. If my memory, albeit vague, serves me correctly, I believe I saw the original photo in a 1992 edition of Sports Illustrated. I’m pretty sure the date of the game when the photo was taken was October 11, 1992. If any of you guys could help me find it, I’d really, really appreciate it!

    Here’s what the box cover/cartridge label of Tecmo Super Bowl III looks like:

    http://www.knobbe.or...

  • Patrick O'Donnell | July 14, 2009 at 8:34 am |

    Michael Owen will be wearing #7. The training shirt numbers have no meaning. None of the players on the team wear their real shirt number for training. As for why that is, I have no idea.

  • JD | July 14, 2009 at 8:41 am |

    I’d like to ask…

    What is everyone’s opinion on nameplates? From a purely aesthetic perspective; are you for them or against them?

  • Joe Barrie | July 14, 2009 at 8:43 am |

    Not only was Hubbell’s picture flipped; his name was mis-spelled (twice).

  • Chris O | July 14, 2009 at 8:47 am |

    Isn’t that Pena’s BP Pitcher next to him in that first photo?

    http://farm4.static....

  • HungryHungryHipster | July 14, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    Hey guys, HHH here…

    I’m almost done with making city flag jerseys for every NFL team. Due to the positive response from UniWatch readers, the fact Paul likes them, and the fact that I’m addicted to making them, I came up with an idea:

    By request, I will design custom flag/crest/shield jerseys for your high school, college, frat, town, city, family crest, and/or last name heraldry/coat of arms. It doesn’t have to be a football jersey; it can be a jersey for any sport.

    I am still working out the details of this idea. So before I spend more time trying to figure everything out, I just wanted to get an idea of whether there was any interest. So, anybody interested?

  • MH | July 14, 2009 at 8:51 am |

    What is everyone’s opinion on nameplates? From a purely aesthetic perspective; are you for them or against them?

    Against. For any NOB, either do it right (no namplates) or don’t do it.

  • bill | July 14, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    Enjoyed the All-Star Game slide show. Couldn’t help but notice that unis were transitioning from double-knit sansabelt back to normal, requiring a belt.

  • Chris | July 14, 2009 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”339647″]What is everyone’s opinion on nameplates? From a purely aesthetic perspective; are you for them or against them?

    Against. For any NOB, either do it right (no namplates) or don’t do it.[/quote]
    They are useless at any distance in person, and when on television, they are unnecessary because they tell you who it is.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    Check out this beautiful Red Sox through the years gallery from Sports Illustrated.

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Geeman | July 14, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    Love the All-Star Game sideshow. Even though those uniforms are double knits, they still look great. Almost classic.

    I noticed that the A’s continued their tradition of players wearing different color jerseys for the All-Star Game.

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Kim | July 14, 2009 at 9:18 am |

    Re: Upside down Rays.

    Looks like they just took the standard left sleeve ray and put it on the right sleeve, but flipped it so it was going forward. May have looked better right-side up and going backward.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”339650″]Check out this beautiful Red Sox through the years gallery from Sports Illustrated.

    http://sportsillustr...

    good stuff

    here’s my favorite shot

  • Hott Rodd | July 14, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    although someone should be fired for flopping Carl Hubbel’s photo).

    Maybe it’s just me (probably) but I don’t get it.. All I get is a picture of Dale Murphy.

  • Adam | July 14, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”339654″]although someone should be fired for flopping Carl Hubbel’s photo).

    Maybe it’s just me (probably) but I don’t get it.. All I get is a picture of Dale Murphy.[/quote]

    Yeah, me too…WTF is wrong with it?

    Should we really be surprised the Rays’s jersey was messed up?

    It is amazing for what passed baseball uniforms in 1984

  • Chad | July 14, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    i can’t figure out why they keep putting car manufacturers next to the tour de france leaders. anyone know why they’re doing this?

  • Eriq Jaffe | July 14, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    I like how Lou Whitaker’s NOB is so big that it actually overlaps his raglan sleeve.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”339657″]I like how Lou Whitaker’s NOB is so big that it actually overlaps his raglan sleeve.[/quote]

    One can only imagine what his jersey would look like if his last name was Saltalamacchia.

  • al | July 14, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    Those all star pics are great …. what are those colored socks under their pants:)

    For the young folk, this is from the time when you knew the team in the blink of an eye, unlike today.

    http://sportsillustr...

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”339654″]although someone should be fired for flopping Carl Hubbel’s photo).

    Maybe it’s just me (probably) but I don’t get it.. All I get is a picture of Dale Murphy.[/quote]

    Ha! Someone at SI must have read today’s Ticker!! They removed the Hubbell photo. Maybe they’ll re-insert it after fixing it…

  • Hott Rodd | July 14, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”339660″][quote comment=”339654″]although someone should be fired for flopping Carl Hubbel’s photo).

    Maybe it’s just me (probably) but I don’t get it.. All I get is a picture of Dale Murphy.[/quote]

    Ha! Someone at SI must have read today’s Ticker!! They removed the Hubbell photo. Maybe they’ll re-insert it after fixing it…[/quote]

    Oh ok. I’m not great with baseball pics, history etc., but I was pretty sure I wasn’t an idiot.
    (insert witty comeback here)

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”339653″][quote comment=”339650″]Check out this beautiful Red Sox through the years gallery from Sports Illustrated.

    http://sportsillustr...

    good stuff
    here’s my favorite shot[/quote]

    Bizarrely inaccurate caption to this photo, though:
    http://sportsillustr...

  • Mark M | July 14, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    The US Military All-stars “names” were all pretty self-explanatory, save one. What does “McGinnis” and “26” have to do with American military history?

    A quick wikipedia search turned up a recent Medal of Honor winner, Ross McGinnis , who threw himself on a grenade in Adhamiyah, Iraq in 2006 to save his fellow soldiers. The number 26 is his unit, the 26th Infantry Regiment of the 1st Battalion of the 1st Inf. Division.

    As our Paul has said, this is uniform innovation at its best, educating us in some small way.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”339644″]Isn’t that Pena’s BP Pitcher next to him in that first photo?

    http://farm4.static....

    You’re right. Will adjust text now.

  • mike | July 14, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    c’mon now….after a game, ok, whatever…but after the HR Derby? http://news.yahoo.co...

    if nothing else, it’s consistent….

  • Adam | July 14, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”339660″][quote comment=”339654″]although someone should be fired for flopping Carl Hubbel’s photo).

    Maybe it’s just me (probably) but I don’t get it.. All I get is a picture of Dale Murphy.[/quote]

    Ha! Someone at SI must have read today’s Ticker!! They removed the Hubbell photo. Maybe they’ll re-insert it after fixing it…[/quote]

    Would you please tell us Laymen what was wrong with the Hubbel pic Mr Ego?

  • Hott Rodd | July 14, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”339662″][quote comment=”339653″][quote comment=”339650″]Check out this beautiful Red Sox through the years gallery from Sports Illustrated.

    http://sportsillustr...

    good stuff
    here’s my favorite shot[/quote]

    Bizarrely inaccurate caption to this photo, though:
    http://sportsillustr...

    Looks like it is supposed to say Cy Young..

  • scott | July 14, 2009 at 9:48 am |

    The ASG batting practice caps remind me of the Phillies batting practice/ spring training cap from a few years back when the “P” had a star on either side of it.

  • KBrew | July 14, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    No mention of the awesome program from last night’s Wilco show? Seems like the kind of thing you’d love. Even had a “Song Scorecard”, a big chart with all of their songs and stops on this tour for people to check off.

  • Bernard | July 14, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    Was anyone else aggravated that some of the HR Derby contestants (including the winner) opted not to wear their caps at the plate? I know that it’s an exhibition, and it’s supposed to be fun, but for crissakes, wear the hat. Why not just go out in basketball shorts and a cut-off tee?

  • mtjaws | July 14, 2009 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”339658″][quote comment=”339657″]I like how Lou Whitaker’s NOB is so big that it actually overlaps his raglan sleeve.[/quote]

    One can only imagine what his jersey would look like if his last name was Saltalamacchia.[/quote]

    And can you imagine if Salty and the Rangers had a nameplate too? Now that would look completely ridiculous.

  • Flip | July 14, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”339642″]I’d like to ask…

    What is everyone’s opinion on nameplates? From a purely aesthetic perspective; are you for them or against them?[/quote]

    They look amateurish. Especially when they’re plain and the uniform has pins, ala Minnesota. Wonder if teams like the Royals ever will use vertical arching on throwbacks. Wished they’d return to those days of yore.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    Question for Teebz and other Hockey Lounge members…

    Did the Toronto Maple Leafs ever wear navy and white, or has it always been royal and white? (I mean the NHL team; I know the Maple Leafs of baseball’s International league wore royal)

    –Ricko

  • TMD | July 14, 2009 at 10:10 am |

    That Stampeders hat is a work of art.

    http://www.stampeder...

  • ChillicotheCraig | July 14, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”339652″]Re: Upside down Rays.

    Looks like they just took the standard left sleeve ray and put it on the right sleeve, but flipped it so it was going forward. May have looked better right-side up and going backward.[/quote]

    I agree. Suspect it was intentional. The ray looks better with his tail towards the back. Much like the US flag patch being “backwards” on the right arm. Though I would think it would be easy to make a flipped patch so it looks correct vertically but still “swimming” forward.

  • scott | July 14, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    Do Yankees yearbooks from the 1970s have photos of all personnel working for the team? Seems like the mystery man from the ’77 ASG could be identified in that way.

  • Beardface | July 14, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”339673″]Question for Teebz and other Hockey Lounge members…

    Did the Toronto Maple Leafs ever wear navy and white, or has it always been royal and white? (I mean the NHL team; I know the Maple Leafs of baseball’s International league wore royal)

    –Ricko[/quote]
    If I’m not mistaken, its tended to lean more towards royal, but over the years there have been jerseys here or there that crept towards navy. Granted, they’ve never been like Yankees or RedSox blue, but they haven’t always been Dodgers or Mets blue, either.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    I hate to point this out to those who noted logo similarities, but just because different logos use a sweeping, hand-lettered-looking script letter doesn’t mean there’s any kind of ripoff or “studying for inspiration” involved. Might as well include the Braves A, too, btw….and say Century is a ripoff from Times Roman. Or that the Athletics and Rangers’ chest script logos look suspiciously alike. Yeah, so, what would you expect from a pair of script logos with a underlining tail?
    http://farm3.static....

    —Ricko

  • Flip | July 14, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”339650″]Check out this beautiful Red Sox through the years gallery from Sports Illustrated.

    http://sportsillustr...

    I don’t know what it is about those old BoSox road uniforms, but I just love the uniform Dwight Evans is wearing. It looks professional without looking generic.

    That entire gallery is sweet.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    hockey lounge?

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    One more sighting from this weekend’s rugby action.

    http://i807.photobuc...

    “One of these kids is doing his own thing. One item in that uni doesn’t belong…”

  • tosaman | July 14, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    I’m thoroughly enjoying HHH’s city flag jersey project. However, as a Wisconsin boy, it’s fair to say the Packers are more a statewide phenomenon than Green Bay phenomenon. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin state flag is less…um, let’s say…interesting than the Green Bay city flag:
    http://commons.wikim...

  • Flip | July 14, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”339657″]I like how Lou Whitaker’s NOB is so big that it actually overlaps his raglan sleeve.[/quote]

    Don’t know if Sparky Anderson had anything to do with those huge NOBs, but the Reds and Tigers both had them during his managing tenure. (Though I seem to remember a SI photo of his Reds predecessor, Dave Bristol, with his huge name on his back misspelled.

    For the Reds and Tigers, the big names worked. Everybody else, not so much.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”339669″]No mention of the awesome program from last night’s Wilco show? Seems like the kind of thing you’d love. Even had a “Song Scorecard”, a big chart with all of their songs and stops on this tour for people to check off.[/quote]

    Indeed, I *loved* the program. But haven’t had a chance to scan it yet.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”339676″]Do Yankees yearbooks from the 1970s have photos of all personnel working for the team? Seems like the mystery man from the ’77 ASG could be identified in that way.[/quote]

    Excellent idea. Will investigate!

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    RE: the inverted ray sleeve patch

    Why did the Rays players have the secondary logo on their sleeves anyway? It looked like most of the players had their respective team’s primary logo as the sleeve patch.

    Other teams’ representatives I noticed with secondary logos: Rangers, Brewers.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    Today’s ESPN column is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Wes | July 14, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    The NBA logo concepts are interesting. I always thought the NBA logo was a little dull – doesn’t really capture the athleticism of the game. NBA_Logo_3 captures the athleticism better but is maybe too guard/wing-specific. I think I like the one in the lower left of NBA_Logo_4 best. Could be a guard/wing going in for a layup, but it could also almost be a big man corraling a rebound. Either way, it’s much more dynamic than the current logo.

  • Kevin M | July 14, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”339686″]RE: the inverted ray sleeve patch

    Why did the Rays players have the secondary logo on their sleeves anyway? It looked like most of the players had their respective team’s primary logo as the sleeve patch.

    Other teams’ representatives I noticed with secondary logos: Rangers, Brewers.[/quote]

    The Rays only use the Devil Ray as a sleve patch. There is no sunburst patch or the Rays in the diamond patch.

  • Kevin | July 14, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    After watching the Derby last night and seeing Fielder in that BP jersey about 5 sizes too big I wanted to barf. The people I was watching it with thought they were all that big but I said there’s no way they were all that big. I’d be willing to be that Fielder requested a horrifically large BP jersey and then looked like a clown a the end when he untucked it. Fielder and his overly huge jerseys and pajama pants may be all that is wrong with MLB uniforms these days.

  • Wes | July 14, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”339665″]c’mon now….after a game, ok, whatever…but after the HR Derby? http://news.yahoo.co...

    if nothing else, it’s consistent….[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with the concept of the Brewers untucking their jerseys after a win given the story behind it, and in a way it was cool that Fielder continued that tradition at the Derby, but he just looked ridiculous with that extremely oversized jersey. It looked like an old fashioned night gown. Not good.

  • ClubMedSux | July 14, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    I’m still trying to figure out what I think about having special “AL” and “NL” caps for the home run derby. On one hand, they avoid horrible mismatched color combos. Plus this year’s hats were a vast improvement over last year’s (even if the AL cap looks just like an Angels cap, as pointed out in the ticker). However, part of me just can’t get beyond the fact that it’s the MLB looking for yet ANOTHER piece of uninspired merchandise to sell.

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”339673″]Question for Teebz and other Hockey Lounge members…

    Did the Toronto Maple Leafs ever wear navy and white, or has it always been royal and white? (I mean the NHL team; I know the Maple Leafs of baseball’s International league wore royal)

    –Ricko[/quote]

    From what I know, the blue has been consistent throughout the ages. There have been slight variations on the colour as they transition from material to material in jerseys/sweaters, but the Leafs have always maintained that they had the same shade of blue for the most part.

    Of course, photographs don’t help. Compare Lanny McDonald to Lanny McDonald to Russ Courtnall to Johnny Bower. While they’re all close, none of them are the same.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”339689″][quote comment=”339686″]RE: the inverted ray sleeve patch

    Why did the Rays players have the secondary logo on their sleeves anyway? It looked like most of the players had their respective team’s primary logo as the sleeve patch.

    Other teams’ representatives I noticed with secondary logos: Rangers, Brewers.[/quote]

    The Rays only use the Devil Ray as a sleve patch. There is no sunburst patch or the Rays in the diamond patch.[/quote]
    The Yankees don’t wear the top hat logo as a sleeve patch. The Cubs don’t wear the big C, litte UBS logo as a sleeve patch. The Cardinals don’t use the bird on bat as a sleeve patch. The Phillies don’t use the Liberty Bell logo as a sleeve patch. The White Sox don’t wear the Old English Sox logo as a sleeve patch.

    Those are the sleeve patch logos the players from those teams all wore.

  • Peter Wunsch | July 14, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    PS Maybe Atlee Hammaker should have tried using the other arm in that game!!![/quote]

    Good thing I was one of the few to see the picture of Hubbell before they took it down so that no one noticed I had the wrong year for Hammaker. His blow-up years was ’83, not ’84

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    I can’t believe I’m the first one to say that SI pulling the Hubbell picture was a screwy decision.

    :-)

  • Ian K | July 14, 2009 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”339691″][quote comment=”339665″]c’mon now….after a game, ok, whatever…but after the HR Derby? http://news.yahoo.co...

    if nothing else, it’s consistent….[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with the concept of the Brewers untucking their jerseys after a win given the story behind it, and in a way it was cool that Fielder continued that tradition at the Derby, but he just looked ridiculous with that extremely oversized jersey. It looked like an old fashioned night gown. Not good.[/quote]

    Bob DePuy also commented on it in the post-derby trophy presentation. He said something like “and you’re untucked like you Brewers do”…I hope it gets under his skin like it does mine.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”339696″]I can’t believe I’m the first one to say that SI pulling the Hubbell picture was a screwy decision.

    :-)[/quote]

    I’ll wait until they fix it and then reverse it again and post it to flickr. :^P

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”339690″] I’d be willing to be that Fielder requested a horrifically large BP jersey [/quote]
    He just borrowed one out of Dad’s collection.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote]Fielder and his overly huge jerseys and pajama pants may be all that is wrong with MLB uniforms these days.[/quote]

    there’s far more wrong with them than that

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”339698″]I’ll wait until they fix it and then reverse it again and post it to flickr. :^P[/quote]
    No, leave that one the way it should be: but reverse every other picture from their slideshow.

    :-)

  • Giancarlo | July 14, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    Pearl Harbor – 7

    Would that be an HTOB… Historical Tragedy On Back?

  • u2-horn | July 14, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    I assume the teams with the secondary logo last night also wear the same secondary logo patch on their jerseys during the regular season. The teams with the primary logo patches last night don’t normally wear a sleeve patch.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    Carl Hubbell, the way he was meant to be seen… as a righty for the stnaig ocsicnarf nas.

    http://farm3.static....

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”339703″]I assume the teams with the secondary logo last night also wear the same secondary logo patch on their jerseys during the regular season. The teams with the primary logo patches last night don’t normally wear a sleeve patch.[/quote]
    Nope. Both Chicago teams wear secondary logo sleeve patches but they had primary logos last night.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”339692″]I’m still trying to figure out what I think about having special “AL” and “NL” caps for the home run derby. On one hand, they avoid horrible mismatched color combos. Plus this year’s hats were a vast improvement over last year’s (even if the AL cap looks just like an Angels cap, as pointed out in the ticker). However, part of me just can’t get beyond the fact that it’s the MLB looking for yet ANOTHER piece of uninspired merchandise to sell.[/quote]

    The mismatched combos are certainly no worse than the NFL Pro Bowl with player wearing their own helmets, so I see no problem.

    My problem with adding N and A hats to the Home Run Derby is that, while it may be sound merchandising that adds another sellable product to the All-Star line, it’s a lousy marketing move.

    A casual fan, watching last night, might have been quite impressed with Nelson Cruz but had no instant visual cue to tell what team he played for. Had to listen or read the on-screen graphics. Might have cost the Rangers, and MLB, a fan with renewed interest.

    To me, anyway, one of the appealing elements of the All-Star Game was seeing all the different unis on the field at the same time. Last night’s Home Run Derby seemed, I dunno, “homogenized”. Visually it lacked the color and variety that we’ll see in the game tonight.

    —Ricko

  • mako | July 14, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    I love the city flag jerseys, though as someone commented on a previous day’s post, IIRC, they look more like soccer jerseys than football jerseys (which is fine with me, since I’m one of those weird soccer fans). Keep it up, HHH! And if you’re looking for further requests, my home town San Francisco’s flag ( http://en.wikipedia.... ) doesn’t do much for me, but I think the California state flag ( http://en.wikipedia.... ) would make an awesome jersey.

    A number of European soccer clubs incorporate elements from their city flags in their uniforms. Three that come to mind immediately are my beloved AFC Ajax, which has used the three Xs from the Amsterdam flag ( http://en.wikipedia.... ) as a design element; ACF Fiorentina, which uses the red giglio (fleur-de-lys) from the Florence city flag ( http://en.wikipedia.... ); and Barcelona, which uses the vertical red and yellow stripes from the Barcelona flag ( http://en.wikipedia.... ) on the back collar. I’m sure there are plenty more.

  • mako | July 14, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    Wow… sorry about the messed-up links; I’m even less technologically competent than I thought.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”339708″]Wow… sorry about the messed-up links; I’m even less technologically competent than I thought.[/quote]

    fixed em…just don’t use the parentheses or if you do, put spaces before and after ;)

  • tim burke | July 14, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”339675″][quote comment=”339652″]Re: Upside down Rays.

    Looks like they just took the standard left sleeve ray and put it on the right sleeve, but flipped it so it was going forward. May have looked better right-side up and going backward.[/quote]

    I agree. Suspect it was intentional. The ray looks better with his tail towards the back. Much like the US flag patch being “backwards” on the right arm. Though I would think it would be easy to make a flipped patch so it looks correct vertically but still “swimming” forward.[/quote]

    It most definitely does not look better. It is a FISH should never be displayed UPSIDE DOWN for obvious reasons.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”339707″]
    A number of European soccer clubs incorporate elements from their city flags in their uniforms. Three that come to mind immediately are my beloved AFC Ajax, which has used the three Xs from the Amsterdam flag ( http://en.wikipedia.... ) as a design element[/quote]
    There’s something about the XXX on the Amsterdam flag that just seems so right.

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    Far left-hand side of today’s picture: is that someone painting a Leroy Neiman-esqe picture?

    If so, was he smoking a cigar in the no-smoking area?

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”339711″]
    There’s something about the XXX on the Amsterdam flag that just seems so right.[/quote]
    Is that a picture of what they call the Amstel Light District?

  • mako | July 14, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    Thanks for the help, Phil. :-)

    [quote comment=”339713″][quote comment=”339711″]
    There’s something about the XXX on the Amsterdam flag that just seems so right.[/quote]
    Is that a picture of what they call the Amstel Light District?[/quote]

    According to that unimpeachable source Wikipedia, “Some people say the three saltires [Xs] represent the three dangers of ancient Amsterdam: fire, floods, and the Black Death.” Guess the modern version would be STDs, overdose, and beer bloat.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”339710″][quote comment=”339675″][quote comment=”339652″]Re: Upside down Rays.

    Looks like they just took the standard left sleeve ray and put it on the right sleeve, but flipped it so it was going forward. May have looked better right-side up and going backward.[/quote]

    I agree. Suspect it was intentional. The ray looks better with his tail towards the back. Much like the US flag patch being “backwards” on the right arm. Though I would think it would be easy to make a flipped patch so it looks correct vertically but still “swimming” forward.[/quote]

    It most definitely does not look better. It is a FISH should never be displayed UPSIDE DOWN for obvious reasons.[/quote]
    Meh. It’s one of those things where it can be interpreted either way. (Like the MLB logo — is the batter a righty or a lefty?) With the logo inverted, it doesn’t necessarily look like the manta is swimming upside-down.

  • Joe Hilseberg | July 14, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    OK, so I just read the Page 2 80’s article…I’m so sick of Doug Flutie’s Hail Mary getting all this praise. What everyone fails to mention is that not only did Miami lose that game, the previous week they lost to Maryland in what was at the time the greatest comeback in college football history! Way more impressive than a hail mary. That’s just 1 pass left up to luck really, in a consistently close game. Coming back from 31 points at halftime with the back-up QB takes a whole team effort! They make movies about this stuff! I can’t believe this game never gets any play!

    “1984, saw the Terps beat 17th-ranked West Virginia (20–17), 20th-ranked Clemson (41–23), and sixth-ranked Miami in what was at the time the greatest comeback victory in college football history. Maryland, trailing the Hurricanes 31–0 at halftime, would go on to rally under quarterback Frank Reich after he replaced Stan Gelbaugh. Reich threw four touchdown passes, and capitalizing on Miami errors, the Terrapins went on to win 42–40. The recovery of a 31–point halftime deficit would stand as the greatest comeback victory in college football history for the next 22 years, until the record was finally broken by Michigan State against Northwestern. Frank Reich went on to again repeat the feat in his professional career with the Buffalo Bills overcoming a 32-point deficit, setting the NFL comeback record.”

    http://www.cbssports...

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”339706″]A casual fan, watching last night, might have been quite impressed with Nelson Cruz but had no instant visual cue to tell what team he played for. Had to listen or read the on-screen graphics. Might have cost the Rangers, and MLB, a fan with renewed interest.[/quote]

    wait, what?

  • Geeman | July 14, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”339706″][quote comment=”339692″]I’m still trying to figure out what I think about having special “AL” and “NL” caps for the home run derby. On one hand, they avoid horrible mismatched color combos. Plus this year’s hats were a vast improvement over last year’s (even if the AL cap looks just like an Angels cap, as pointed out in the ticker). However, part of me just can’t get beyond the fact that it’s the MLB looking for yet ANOTHER piece of uninspired merchandise to sell.[/quote]

    The mismatched combos are certainly no worse than the NFL Pro Bowl with player wearing their own helmets, so I see no problem.

    My problem with adding N and A hats to the Home Run Derby is that, while it may be sound merchandising that adds another sellable product to the All-Star line, it’s a lousy marketing move.

    A casual fan, watching last night, might have been quite impressed with Nelson Cruz but had no instant visual cue to tell what team he played for. Had to listen or read the on-screen graphics. Might have cost the Rangers, and MLB, a fan with renewed interest.

    To me, anyway, one of the appealing elements of the All-Star Game was seeing all the different unis on the field at the same time. Last night’s Home Run Derby seemed, I dunno, “homogenized”. Visually it lacked the color and variety that we’ll see in the game tonight.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Have the players wear their uniforms, only with batting practice jerseys, for the HR Derby. That would bring back some of the colorful flair from the 1970s and 1980s games (e.g., the A’s and Indians wearing different color jerseys), while still allowing teams to wear only white or grey in the actual game.

    By the way, what’s the speed on those HR Derby balls? Don’t those guys need to wear helmets?

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”339717″][quote comment=”339706″]A casual fan, watching last night, might have been quite impressed with Nelson Cruz but had no instant visual cue to tell what team he played for. Had to listen or read the on-screen graphics. Might have cost the Rangers, and MLB, a fan with renewed interest.[/quote]

    wait, what?[/quote]

    Just saying it’s good to keep your stars, and the teams they play for, readily identifiable. Saying you’d think they’d want to avoid, “That’s guy’s pretty good, wonder who he plays for.”

    NATIONAL and AMERICAN aren’t anything anyone generally roots for (not even tonight, not really). Better to let the viewer look up at the TV and instantly be able to see there’s a young guy playing for Texas who’s pretty damn good. Don’t make the fan have to figure it out.

    I’m asking…aren’t the TEAMS working marketing anymore? Or does MLB believe we are so far down the free agent road that individual teams are incidental in an MLB-event context?

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”339682″]I’m thoroughly enjoying HHH’s city flag jersey project. However, as a Wisconsin boy, it’s fair to say the Packers are more a statewide phenomenon than Green Bay phenomenon. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin state flag is less…um, let’s say…interesting than the Green Bay city flag:
    http://commons.wikim...

    You got that right. I love the Green Bay city flag jersey, HHH! The DC one is good, too, especially with the horizontal stripes. I dig the Giants and the Texans as well. Great stuff.

  • EricRomain | July 14, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    Re: Michigan Hockey Jersey
    Along the wall at Yost Ice Arena, there’s photos of all the great U-M hockey players dating back somethings like 80 years. Let me tell you, there are some real beauties. Next season i’ll take pictures and post them online.

    Also the sweater from the picture, there’s was an older season ticket holder that wore a remade version of that exact sweater, I always meant to ask him about it, but I never ran into him.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    Plus, all that “matching” took the color out of the HR Derby.
    It’s a bunch of All-Stars, for pete’s sake, from teams all over MLB…and, visually, the whole thing ends up looking like the Twins and Angels taking batting practice, the kind of thing a fan sees every day? (not exactly, but you know what I mean).

    —Ricko

  • Jeff P | July 14, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”339718″][quote comment=”339706″][quote comment=”339692″]I’m still trying to figure out what I think about having special “AL” and “NL” caps for the home run derby. On one hand, they avoid horrible mismatched color combos. Plus this year’s hats were a vast improvement over last year’s (even if the AL cap looks just like an Angels cap, as pointed out in the ticker). However, part of me just can’t get beyond the fact that it’s the MLB looking for yet ANOTHER piece of uninspired merchandise to sell.[/quote]

    The mismatched combos are certainly no worse than the NFL Pro Bowl with player wearing their own helmets, so I see no problem.

    My problem with adding N and A hats to the Home Run Derby is that, while it may be sound merchandising that adds another sellable product to the All-Star line, it’s a lousy marketing move.

    A casual fan, watching last night, might have been quite impressed with Nelson Cruz but had no instant visual cue to tell what team he played for. Had to listen or read the on-screen graphics. Might have cost the Rangers, and MLB, a fan with renewed interest.

    To me, anyway, one of the appealing elements of the All-Star Game was seeing all the different unis on the field at the same time. Last night’s Home Run Derby seemed, I dunno, “homogenized”. Visually it lacked the color and variety that we’ll see in the game tonight.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Have the players wear their uniforms, only with batting practice jerseys, for the HR Derby. That would bring back some of the colorful flair from the 1970s and 1980s games (e.g., the A’s and Indians wearing different color jerseys), while still allowing teams to wear only white or grey in the actual game.

    By the way, what’s the speed on those HR Derby balls? Don’t those guys need to wear helmets?[/quote]
    The speed on the balls is very low, and nobody’s going to try and pitch high and inside. Helmets are not needed by any strech of the imagination IMO.

    I would however, wear a cap. Just looks right.

  • timmy b | July 14, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    I have always thought the Leafs were more of a royal blue thruout the ages.

    nhluniforms.com shows the Leafs as being navy for much of the history. They look a little too dark to me. I’m thinking its royal blue. O-Pee-Chee hockey cards (the ones where they had the extra series of cards above what Topps did) seemed to show a lighter shade of blue.

    Just my take!

  • al | July 14, 2009 at 12:05 pm |

    I have not seen it mentioned, but i liked the blue used on the National Leagues jersey … harpens back to the blue used on the Cards road unis back in the 80’s.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    Love the headline, Paul. For one season, I’d like it if Ichiro said, “Screw it, I’m just hitting homers this year.” Bet he could break the record easily and do it cleanly.

  • JohnnyC | July 14, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    Really cool article in the Times today about Tiger’s and other golfer’s “uni’s”

    http://www.nytimes.c...

  • tim | July 14, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”339715″]it doesn’t necessarily look like the manta is swimming upside-down.[/quote]

    Given that a ray’s eyes are on top of its head, and the eyes are part of the logo, yes, it’s pretty solidly swimming upside down.

  • Dan G | July 14, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    Was also at Keyspan Park last night. Both Wilco and Yo La Tengo were sublime. But it must be pointed out that Ira Kaplan throws like a girl.

  • leon | July 14, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    I feel that SI pulling the Hubbel picture only magnified the problem. *

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”339674″]That Stampeders hat is a work of art.

    http://www.stampeder...

    Very nice. Reminds me of the old logos for the Colts and Cowboys. I like the new horsey, but I like the football and the font in the old logo.

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”339730″].. Hubbel picture only magnified… [/quote]
    Need to work in the word “focus” for the best connection to Hubble.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote]Just saying it’s good to keep your stars, and the teams they play for, readily identifiable. Saying you’d think they’d want to avoid, “That’s guy’s pretty good, wonder who he plays for.”[/quote]

    that’s up to the teams to do though, no? shouldn’t they be pumping the shit out of their own all stars? the guy is a ranger, and while joe schmoe may not know it, it really didn’t take that much effort to realize who he was or who he played for…but i do get your point — if the dude were wearing a rangers cap (red or blue?), he’d be more easily identifiable from a distance

    reminds me of alex rios a few years back…i was like “who”? but i know who he is now, and i knew it after that derby win…and really, you mention the “casual observer” (or fan)…do they REALLY pay that much attention to the snoozefest the HRD has become???

    [quote]NATIONAL and AMERICAN aren’t anything anyone generally roots for (not even tonight, not really). Better to let the viewer look up at the TV and instantly be able to see there’s a young guy playing for Texas who’s pretty damn good. Don’t make the fan have to figure it out.[/quote]

    i root for the nationals…always have, always will…even before bud’s blunder necessitating the “this one counts” bullshit…

    maybe i have no dog in the HRD fight, but i have one in the actual game, where they wear actual team unis…i got no problem at all with them wearing the stupid BP jerseys for the HRD…since, it is, essentially, glorified BP…i’d rather they not have BP jerseys at all, but since MLB (and the teams, thru merch sales agreements) make some bucks off of them, they’re going to be a permanent part of the problem

    [quote]I’m asking…aren’t the TEAMS working marketing anymore? Or does MLB believe we are so far down the free agent road that individual teams are incidental in an MLB-event context?[/quote]

    see above…the teams are making money of the sales of the ASG BP jerseys and caps…if you already own a texas rangers BP jersey, you’re more apt to plunk down another 75 bucks (do they make them in authentics? then probably 175) for a jersey with your ASG rep’s patch and NOB as well…and if you just want a generic BP jersey or t-shirt, well, they’ll gladly sell you one

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”339731″][quote comment=”339674″]That Stampeders hat is a work of art.

    http://www.stampeder...

    Very nice. Reminds me of the old logos for the Colts and Cowboys. I like the new horsey, but I like the football and the font in the old logo.[/quote]

    Hey, they have a #22 hanging there. Tom “Cheech” Forzani.

    Shouldn’t the pants have a white centerstripe?

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”339722″]It’s a bunch of All-Stars, for pete’s sake, from teams all over MLB…and, visually, the whole thing ends up looking like the Twins and Angels taking batting practice, the kind of thing a fan sees every day? [/quote]
    Ricko, for a peek at how bad it could have been, there’s a picture of McGuire and Sosa in the Chicago papers today: IIRC it was from 1991; what a disaster those uniforms were.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”339681″]One more sighting from this weekend’s rugby action.

    http://i807.photobuc...

    “One of these kids is doing his own thing. One item in that uni doesn’t belong…”[/quote]

    What’s the name of the team, the Harlequins?
    http://www.karnival-...

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”339729″]Was also at Keyspan Park last night. Both Wilco and Yo La Tengo were sublime. But it must be pointed out that Ira Kaplan throws like a girl.[/quote]

    I asked Ira about that after the show (I’ve known him since 1987ish). He said there was “heated discussion” discussion about this before their set. He was planning to throw the balls way up high. But then they thought, “Hmmm, Wilco is from Chicago, so maybe there are Chicago fans here. And we’re the opening band, which is sort of like being the visiting team. And what do Chicago fans do when they get a ball hit by the visiting team? They THROW IT BACK.”

    So he just lobbed the balls because they were afraid that the balls might get whipped back at them onstage.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”339735″] for a peek at how bad it could have been, there’s a picture of McGuire and Sosa in the Chicago papers today[/quote]

    ah yes…the year MLB decreed the HRD would be played in togas

    glad they stopped that experiment

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”339733″][quote]Just saying it’s good to keep your stars, and the teams they play for, readily identifiable. Saying you’d think they’d want to avoid, “That’s guy’s pretty good, wonder who he plays for.”[/quote]

    that’s up to the teams to do though, no? shouldn’t they be pumping the shit out of their own all stars? the guy is a ranger, and while joe schmoe may not know it, it really didn’t take that much effort to realize who he was or who he played for…but i do get your point — if the dude were wearing a rangers cap (red or blue?), he’d be more easily identifiable from a distance

    reminds me of alex rios a few years back…i was like “who”? but i know who he is now, and i knew it after that derby win…and really, you mention the “casual observer” (or fan)…do they REALLY pay that much attention to the snoozefest the HRD has become???

    [quote]NATIONAL and AMERICAN aren’t anything anyone generally roots for (not even tonight, not really). Better to let the viewer look up at the TV and instantly be able to see there’s a young guy playing for Texas who’s pretty damn good. Don’t make the fan have to figure it out.[/quote]

    i root for the nationals…always have, always will…even before bud’s blunder necessitating the “this one counts” bullshit…

    maybe i have no dog in the HRD fight, but i have one in the actual game, where they wear actual team unis…i got no problem at all with them wearing the stupid BP jerseys for the HRD…since, it is, essentially, glorified BP…i’d rather they not have BP jerseys at all, but since MLB (and the teams, thru merch sales agreements) make some bucks off of them, they’re going to be a permanent part of the problem

    [quote]I’m asking…aren’t the TEAMS working marketing anymore? Or does MLB believe we are so far down the free agent road that individual teams are incidental in an MLB-event context?[/quote]

    see above…the teams are making money of the sales of the ASG BP jerseys and caps…if you already own a texas rangers BP jersey, you’re more apt to plunk down another 75 bucks (do they make them in authentics? then probably 175) for a jersey with your ASG rep’s patch and NOB as well…and if you just want a generic BP jersey or t-shirt, well, they’ll gladly sell you one[/quote]

    Key point, I guess, it that for someone like me, who doesn’t follow baseball as closely as I once did, the team hats at HR Derby helped. I don’t mind the National and American jerseys so much; they are sort of part of the fun (designed in the colors of the host team and all)…but so was the odd mix you’d get with the team caps. And, as I said, made it easier for me to be reminded, “Oh, yeah, that’s that young outfielder from…wherever. I gotta start paying attention to him” (hence, the kind of “renewed interest” I mentioned).

    —Ricko

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”339728″][quote comment=”339715″]it doesn’t necessarily look like the manta is swimming upside-down.[/quote]

    Given that a ray’s eyes are on top of its head, and the eyes are part of the logo, yes, it’s pretty solidly swimming upside down.[/quote]
    Yeah, but that’s the thing. With the logo flipped around, I still think it looks like the eyes could be on the top. To me, the normal orientation just shows a side view of a ray swimming with its right wing higher than its left. Flipped, it’s swimming with its left wing raised higher than the right.

    If you absolutely WANT to see the manta as upside-down, then that’s what you’re going to see.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”339738″][quote comment=”339735″] for a peek at how bad it could have been, there’s a picture of McGuire and Sosa in the Chicago papers today[/quote]

    ah yes…the year MLB decreed the HRD would be played in togas

    glad they stopped that experiment[/quote]

    Watching a new shipment fly in, are they?

  • leon | July 14, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”339732″][quote comment=”339730″].. Hubbel picture only magnified… [/quote]
    Need to work in the word “focus” for the best connection to Hubble.[/quote]

    Your logic is fuzzy.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”339706″]NATIONAL and AMERICAN aren’t anything anyone generally roots for (not even tonight, not really). Better to let the viewer look up at the TV and instantly be able to see there’s a young guy playing for Texas who’s pretty damn good. Don’t make the fan have to figure it out.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I always root for the National League. I think, not only should this game decide home-field advantage, it should decide whether or not they have the DH for the whole Series.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”339737″][quote comment=”339729″]Was also at Keyspan Park last night. Both Wilco and Yo La Tengo were sublime. But it must be pointed out that Ira Kaplan throws like a girl.[/quote]

    I asked Ira about that after the show (I’ve known him since 1987ish). He said there was “heated discussion” discussion about this before their set. He was planning to throw the balls way up high. But then they thought, “Hmmm, Wilco is from Chicago, so maybe there are Chicago fans here. And we’re the opening band, which is sort of like being the visiting team. And what do Chicago fans do when they get a ball hit by the visiting team? They THROW IT BACK.”

    So he just lobbed the balls because they were afraid that the balls might get whipped back at them onstage.[/quote]
    That’s insane.

    First, I think Jeff Tweedy’s the only one in the band that lives in Chicago. Second, he’s originally from Belleville, IL and he’s a Cardinals fan.

    I’m going to see YLT on Friday. If I get close enough to the stage, I’m going to have to mention something about this to the band.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”339740″][quote comment=”339728″][quote comment=”339715″]it doesn’t necessarily look like the manta is swimming upside-down.[/quote]

    Given that a ray’s eyes are on top of its head, and the eyes are part of the logo, yes, it’s pretty solidly swimming upside down.[/quote]
    Yeah, but that’s the thing. With the logo flipped around, I still think it looks like the eyes could be on the top. To me, the normal orientation just shows a side view of a ray swimming with its right wing higher than its left. Flipped, it’s swimming with its left wing raised higher than the right.

    If you absolutely WANT to see the manta as upside-down, then that’s what you’re going to see.[/quote]

    If you don’t know what the thing is, you’re probably gonna sew the patch on tail back. Just would make sense.

    MLB quality control. Gotta love it. Gives us plenty to talk about here.

  • LarryB | July 14, 2009 at 12:44 pm |

    I have to try and remember to watch some CFL online this week. With the throwback games coming up.

    Too bad they are not on my cable.

  • Paul Ricciardi | July 14, 2009 at 12:45 pm |

    Seriously? Replica PRACTICE jerseys?

    http://store.philade...

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”339744″][quote comment=”339737″][quote comment=”339729″]Was also at Keyspan Park last night. Both Wilco and Yo La Tengo were sublime. But it must be pointed out that Ira Kaplan throws like a girl.[/quote]

    I asked Ira about that after the show (I’ve known him since 1987ish). He said there was “heated discussion” discussion about this before their set. He was planning to throw the balls way up high. But then they thought, “Hmmm, Wilco is from Chicago, so maybe there are Chicago fans here. And we’re the opening band, which is sort of like being the visiting team. And what do Chicago fans do when they get a ball hit by the visiting team? They THROW IT BACK.”

    So he just lobbed the balls because they were afraid that the balls might get whipped back at them onstage.[/quote]
    That’s insane.

    First, I think Jeff Tweedy’s the only one in the band that lives in Chicago. Second, he’s originally from Belleville, IL and he’s a Cardinals fan.

    I’m going to see YLT on Friday. If I get close enough to the stage, I’m going to have to mention something about this to the band.[/quote]
    Or maybe I should just bring a baseball and ask them to sign it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    BTW, since I didn’t make it clear in my original comment, Belleville is just across the Mississippi River from St. Louis.

  • LarryB | July 14, 2009 at 12:47 pm |

    And a Buckeye fan here who says that Michigan hockey jersey is pretty cool. Any idea of what year it is?

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 12:48 pm |

    This just in from PICN (Politically InCorrect Network). They have interviewed the person who sewed that Rays patch on upside down. Asked about the error, the reply was concise…

    “I theenk eet ees a spacesheep, no?”

  • Hott Rodd | July 14, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    The kind of stuff I notice now that drives me crazy..

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    http://shop.dallasco...

  • Roger A. | July 14, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    Cooley’s autographed for sale at his “official blog” jerseys are counterfeit reeboks.

    http://chriscooley.m...

    http://www.jerseycen...

    I wonder if he even realizes it.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”339751″]The kind of stuff I notice now that drives me crazy..

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    http://shop.dallasco...
    Other than everything? I give up. What?

  • coachie ballgames | July 14, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    With only a tenuous Uni-connection, I present a drawing I made featuring the yanks, the red sox, and a few small market teams for my friend’s post on competitive imbalance in baseball.

    http://sheahey.blogs...

  • leon | July 14, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    Once upon a time didn’t the Wake Forest football helmet sport some Klingon-looking letters when they just reversed the funky “WF” from the other side? Furthermore, would the Steelers logo read “sreleetS” if it were applied to both sides of their helmets, using the mirror image rule? And don’t rays appear bottom side up when they’re making their speed turns or checking out the bottom of the ocean?

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”339751″]The kind of stuff I notice now that drives me crazy..

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    http://shop.dallasco...

    The blues don’t match and the jerseys didn’t have the NFL shield on the front when Roger played.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”339688″]The NBA logo concepts are interesting. I always thought the NBA logo was a little dull – doesn’t really capture the athleticism of the game. NBA_Logo_3 captures the athleticism better but is maybe too guard/wing-specific. I think I like the one in the lower left of NBA_Logo_4 best. Could be a guard/wing going in for a layup, but it could also almost be a big man corraling a rebound. Either way, it’s much more dynamic than the current logo.[/quote]

    I like the one of the guy soaring for a dunk, but it’s not representative of every player. If they were to use one of these great logos it should be the jump shooter.

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”339745″][quote comment=”339740″][quote comment=”339728″][quote comment=”339715″]it doesn’t necessarily look like the manta is swimming upside-down.[/quote]

    Given that a ray’s eyes are on top of its head, and the eyes are part of the logo, yes, it’s pretty solidly swimming upside down.[/quote]
    Yeah, but that’s the thing. With the logo flipped around, I still think it looks like the eyes could be on the top. To me, the normal orientation just shows a side view of a ray swimming with its right wing higher than its left. Flipped, it’s swimming with its left wing raised higher than the right.

    If you absolutely WANT to see the manta as upside-down, then that’s what you’re going to see.[/quote]

    If you don’t know what the thing is, you’re probably gonna sew the patch on tail back. Just would make sense.

    MLB quality control. Gotta love it. Gives us plenty to talk about here.[/quote]

    The Manta is upside down for two reasons:

    1) The lighter side of the Manta is always on the bottom. Always. No exceptions. Always. Rays will rarely swim upside down unless chasing food, and even then they rarely do that. They are bottom-feeders (not figuratively), and they scour the seabeds and ocean floor for food.

    2) Since the first reason is always true about the lighter colour, the eye is on the wrong side of the body. If you’re viewing it from the right side of its body, the right eye should be visible, not the left.

    Therefore, it is upside down. My zoo knowledge comes in handy once again on this site. LOL

  • Hott Rodd | July 14, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”339756″][quote comment=”339751″]The kind of stuff I notice now that drives me crazy..

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    http://shop.dallasco...

    The blues don’t match and the jerseys didn’t have the NFL shield on the front when Roger played.[/quote]

    Ding Ding Ding.

    Also it’s being sold as an authentic Staubach, with truncated sleeve stripes and a huge reebok logo.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 1:07 pm |
  • leon | July 14, 2009 at 1:11 pm |

    Didn’t imagine it after all

    http://www.helmet-hi...

    You will be required to scroll down a bit.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”339758″][quote comment=”339745″][quote comment=”339740″][quote comment=”339728″][quote comment=”339715″]it doesn’t necessarily look like the manta is swimming upside-down.[/quote]

    Given that a ray’s eyes are on top of its head, and the eyes are part of the logo, yes, it’s pretty solidly swimming upside down.[/quote]
    Yeah, but that’s the thing. With the logo flipped around, I still think it looks like the eyes could be on the top. To me, the normal orientation just shows a side view of a ray swimming with its right wing higher than its left. Flipped, it’s swimming with its left wing raised higher than the right.

    If you absolutely WANT to see the manta as upside-down, then that’s what you’re going to see.[/quote]

    If you don’t know what the thing is, you’re probably gonna sew the patch on tail back. Just would make sense.

    MLB quality control. Gotta love it. Gives us plenty to talk about here.[/quote]

    The Manta is upside down for two reasons:

    1) The lighter side of the Manta is always on the bottom. Always. No exceptions. Always. Rays will rarely swim upside down unless chasing food, and even then they rarely do that. They are bottom-feeders (not figuratively), and they scour the seabeds and ocean floor for food.

    2) Since the first reason is always true about the lighter colour, the eye is on the wrong side of the body. If you’re viewing it from the right side of its body, the right eye should be visible, not the left.

    Therefore, it is upside down. My zoo knowledge comes in handy once again on this site. LOL[/quote]
    OK, I’m not saying it ISN’T upside-down. Clearly it is. What I’m saying is that it isn’t obvious that it’s upside-down. And I’m not buying the eye analysis, either. I say the ray could be making a right turn and that’s why the left wing is higher and curled a bit. Plus, the “camera” is positioned above and to the right, so the right eye has moved out of view and the left is becoming visible.

    Face it. I’m right and you have no imagination.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Let’s move on. Dale Tallon: did the Bowmans (Bowmen?) orchestrate the whole late filing thing so they had an excuse to fire him?

  • Dave Mac | July 14, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”339646″]Hey guys, HHH here…

    I’m almost done with making city flag jerseys for every NFL team. Due to the positive response from UniWatch readers, the fact Paul likes them, and the fact that I’m addicted to making them, I came up with an idea:

    By request, I will design custom flag/crest/shield jerseys for your high school, college, frat, town, city, family crest, and/or last name heraldry/coat of arms. It doesn’t have to be a football jersey; it can be a jersey for any sport.

    I am still working out the details of this idea. So before I spend more time trying to figure everything out, I just wanted to get an idea of whether there was any interest. So, anybody interested?[/quote]

    I am interested. I’d like to see what you could come up with.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”339760″]hmmm[/quote]

    “Yankees Universe,” huh? Nothing like blowing past Red Sox Nation – didn’t settle for Planet Yankee, Yankees Galaxy, etc.

    Well, for those of us who grew up reading DC Comics, we know the Yankees didn’t go as far as they could have. Therefore I think I’ll start a Pirates Multiverse fan club. Take that, team that lost the 1960 World Series!

  • Roger Faso | July 14, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    If you dislike the Yankees and you think pin collectors are dorks, do not click on this link …

    http://www.yankees-p...

  • Hank | July 14, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    Random Ramblings on the topics:

    1) Prince Fielder is approaching (or passed) scary-big status. The man needs to pass on the after-game buffet once in awhile.

    2) How about resurrecting the old Home Run Derby at the end of each season? Like the classic show from the ealry 60s, have the top 10 HR hitters at the end of the season compete in a round-robbin format. They can wear their team unis and not look so cookie-cutterish.

    3) Chris Cooley, for all his wackiness, does make some valid points in his 10 Things.

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”339762″]
    OK, I’m not saying it ISN’T upside-down. Clearly it is. What I’m saying is that it isn’t obvious that it’s upside-down.[/quote]

    It is to me. It’s painfully obvious. :o)

    And the Tallon firing is due to his immense stupidity. He signs Hossa for a ridiculous length of time at an idiotic amount when he could have had Martin Havlat back at a much lower price. Then he effs up the RFA offers by MAILING them out when the CBA explicitly states that they are to be couriered or faxed ONLY. In doing so, he is forced to sign both Barker and Versteeg at market value when they could have been kept with low price tags for this coming season. Next season, the ‘Hawks are in deep, deep doo-doo in terms of the salary cap.

    Stupidity + ineptitude = unemployment. It was that simple.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 1:54 pm |

    “2) How about resurrecting the old Home Run Derby at the end of each season? Like the classic show from the ealry 60s…”

    Was late ’50s (Harmon Killebrew and Jim Lemon were in Senators unis, Bob Cerv in KC A’s)…and I loved it. Talk about something I wish had been filmed in color! Many of us likely have never seen some of those uniforms in motion and in color (A’s and Senators, to be sure).

    Probably couldn’t do the show these days. Back then, the prize money, though small, was enough to make it worthwhile for the players.

    Anyone else remember when winners’ and losers’ share in things like WS or Super Bowl were a big deal? Now they get mentioned maybe once and are, by comparison to today’s salaries, chump change.

    So, in 2009 the payoff for a HR Derby like that would have to be enormous for any players to even consider it, I imagine.

    —Ricko

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”339766″]
    1) Prince Fielder is approaching (or passed) scary-big status. The man needs to pass on the after-game buffet once in awhile.
    [/quote]

    And he’s a vegetarian. Must be vegetable tempura.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”339768″][quote comment=”339762″]
    OK, I’m not saying it ISN’T upside-down. Clearly it is. What I’m saying is that it isn’t obvious that it’s upside-down.[/quote]

    It is to me. It’s painfully obvious. :o)

    And the Tallon firing is due to his immense stupidity. He signs Hossa for a ridiculous length of time at an idiotic amount when he could have had Martin Havlat back at a much lower price. Then he effs up the RFA offers by MAILING them out when the CBA explicitly states that they are to be couriered or faxed ONLY. In doing so, he is forced to sign both Barker and Versteeg at market value when they could have been kept with low price tags for this coming season. Next season, the ‘Hawks are in deep, deep doo-doo in terms of the salary cap.

    Stupidity + ineptitude = unemployment. It was that simple.[/quote]

    I still think it’s a space ship. See?
    http://www.alternate...

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”339760″]hmmm[/quote]

    Well, I paid 12.99 or 14.99 or whatever just for the Game Day Audio at MLB.com so getting a membership card, merch discount and a sticker too would have been pretty boss.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”339766″]Random Ramblings on the topics:
    Chris Cooley, for all his wackiness, does make some valid points in his 10 Things.[/quote]

    Yes, especially his third thing: “I think the NFL uniform rule is much too stringent. Guys are now being fined in the third and fourth quarters for their jerseys being untucked. Assessing a $5,000 fine for a untucked jersey is ignorant. When the thing gets yanked out of the pants it just looks like the guy is playing harder. The NFL is also fining for other minuscule things, like socks not being pulled up enough and hand towels being two inches too long. Obviously, the NFL has to keep things within reason, but insignificant uniform infractions do not affect the integrity of the game.”

    I know this might be a bugaboo to some of us uni-obsessives, but I’d like to think we all can agree the No Fun League is just way too corporate and over-the-top on this particular issue. As long as we don’t see Prince Fielder-like jerseys, or the return of the tear-away jersey, I think the NFL should unclench a little.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    Hey everyone… I was thinking of something that I think would be a unique feature to Uni Watch… “Uni Watch By the Numbers”. It would be a section of Uni Watch records such as, “Most posts in one day”, “Most posts by an individual poster”, “Total number of unique posters”, “Number of major changes to the site”, etc. etc.

    What do you all think?

  • Dave | July 14, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=\”339747\”]Seriously? Replica PRACTICE jerseys?

    http://store.philade...

    only if the team had red in its usual color scheme would i consider buying this. or if they played a valentine’s day game :)

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    And yes, Ricko, I too would like to see the original HR Derby done today. I have one of Killebrew vs. Colavito on tape and it’s entertaining. The “This Week In Baseball” People could be the ones in charge of doing the new version. They seem to be able to keep a show fresh without making it goofy.

  • Ricko | July 14, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”339772″][quote comment=”339760″]hmmm[/quote]

    Well, I paid 12.99 or 14.99 or whatever just for the Game Day Audio at MLB.com so getting a membership card, merch discount and a sticker too would have been pretty boss.[/quote]

    For $100 can I get a pair of C.C.’s pants to inflate for the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade? Then at a precise moment the crotch will give way and the Yankees can blow it out…

    (Actually, don’t necessarily feel that way, just wanted to introduce a concept to anyone who might want to pass it on).

    —Ricko

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”339769″]”2) How about resurrecting the old Home Run Derby at the end of each season? Like the classic show from the ealry 60s…”

    Was late ’50s (Harmon Killebrew and Jim Lemon were in Senators unis, Bob Cerv in KC A’s)…and I loved it. Talk about something I wish had been filmed in color! Many of us likely have never seen some of those uniforms in motion and in color (A’s and Senators, to be sure).

    Probably couldn’t do the show these days. Back then, the prize money, though small, was enough to make it worthwhile for the players.

    Anyone else remember when winners’ and losers’ share in things like WS or Super Bowl were a big deal? Now they get mentioned maybe once and are, by comparison to today’s salaries, chump change.

    So, in 2009 the payoff for a HR Derby like that would have to be enormous for any players to even consider it, I imagine.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    The only way I can see it being viable is if it was done as a “futures” competition with top prospects participating. It would give the fans an opportunity to catch a glimpse of tomorrow’s stars.

    Of course, it wouldn’t hold anywhere near the cachet of Ernie Banks vs. Mickey Mantle or Hank Aaron vs. Duke Snyder so nobody would bother watching it anyway.

  • TomV | July 14, 2009 at 2:13 pm |

    Sosa altered jerseys to make muscles look bigger.

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”339774″]Hey everyone… I was thinking of something that I think would be a unique feature to Uni Watch… “Uni Watch By the Numbers”. It would be a section of Uni Watch records such as, “Most posts in one day”, “Most posts by an individual poster”, “Total number of unique posters”, “Number of major changes to the site”, etc. etc.

    What do you all think?[/quote]

    As long as coffee’s not considered a post-enhancing substance I’m all for it! Wonder what the stats for a posting triple crown would be.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”339770″][quote comment=”339766″]
    1) Prince Fielder is approaching (or passed) scary-big status. The man needs to pass on the after-game buffet once in awhile.
    [/quote]

    And he’s a vegetarian. Must be vegetable tempura.[/quote]

    Further proof, as if any were needed, that meat’s where it’s at.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”339774″]
    As long as coffee’s not considered a post-enhancing substance I’m all for it! Wonder what the stats for a posting triple crown would be.[/quote]

    It would definitely have to include most replies to a single poster.

  • MPowers1634 | July 14, 2009 at 2:23 pm |

    If you guys have not done so already, You MUST check out the July 13/20 edition of Sports Illustrated.

    It is one of their special “Where are they Now” versions and it is a veritable cornucoppia of uni goodness.

    There is even a pic of the Broncos vertically striped socks as well as a great piece on the Mets 69 Series team where Ryan and Seaver are wearing Gorgeous M&N remakes.

  • MPowers1634 | July 14, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    Scott Davis,

    Check your email!

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”339781″][quote comment=”339770″][quote comment=”339766″]
    1) Prince Fielder is approaching (or passed) scary-big status. The man needs to pass on the after-game buffet once in awhile.
    [/quote]

    And he’s a vegetarian. Must be vegetable tempura.[/quote]

    Further proof, as if any were needed, that meat’s where it’s at.[/quote]

    Go Meat! http://www.youtube.c...

  • Jim Walaitis | July 14, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    Just HOW MUCH did they have to pay for that advertising last night???

    http://www.americant...

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”339784″]Scott Davis,

    Check your email![/quote]

    Got it! Thanks a billion!

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”339772″][quote comment=”339760″]hmmm[/quote]

    Well, I paid 12.99 or 14.99 or whatever just for the Game Day Audio at MLB.com so getting a membership card, merch discount and a sticker too would have been pretty boss.[/quote]

    do you have your UW membership card ;)

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”339788″][quote comment=”339772″][quote comment=”339760″]hmmm[/quote]

    Well, I paid 12.99 or 14.99 or whatever just for the Game Day Audio at MLB.com so getting a membership card, merch discount and a sticker too would have been pretty boss.[/quote]

    do you have your UW membership card ;)[/quote]

    I’ve been vacillating on design elements.

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”339780″][quote comment=”339774″]Hey everyone… I was thinking of something that I think would be a unique feature to Uni Watch… “Uni Watch By the Numbers”. It would be a section of Uni Watch records such as, “Most posts in one day”, “Most posts by an individual poster”, “Total number of unique posters”, “Number of major changes to the site”, etc. etc.

    What do you all think?[/quote]

    As long as coffee’s not considered a post-enhancing substance I’m all for it! Wonder what the stats for a posting triple crown would be.[/quote]

    a daily “triple crown” has nothing to do with numbers, or maybe this is posting for the cycle…
    1) answering a difficult research question
    2) posting a uni design of your doing.
    3) making someone’s head essssplode.
    …that is a pretty good day.

  • Gemnr | July 14, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”339769″]Anyone else remember when winners’ and losers’ share in things like WS or Super Bowl were a big deal? Now they get mentioned maybe once and are, by comparison to today’s salaries, chump change.
    [/quote]

    And thus explains the theories of Alex Rodriguez and Barry Bonds and Chad Ocho Cinco and Tracy McGrady and David Beckham.

  • Mike Engle | July 14, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”339775″][quote comment=\”339747\”]Seriously? Replica PRACTICE jerseys?

    http://store.philade...

    only if the team had red in its usual color scheme would i consider buying this. or if they played a valentine’s day game :)[/quote]
    Except it isn’t. The retail version is nothing more than a standard replica jersey that is predominantly red instead of “midnight green.” This is a real practice jersey. Notice how it is a simple, one-layer white number. The red fashion jersey (I’m not calling a QB practice jersey, because I’ve shown that it isn’t) has a border and dropshadow on the number, while the real practice jersey does not.
    And that, my friends, is today’s merchandise EPIC FAIL on Uni Watch, courtesy of Reebok and the NFL. (Hey Teebz, care to whip out the Bush-43 stamp?)

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”339792″]care to whip out the Bush-43 stamp?[/quote]

    this one?

  • =bg= | July 14, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”339759″][quote comment=”339756″][quote comment=”339751″]The kind of stuff I notice now that drives me crazy..

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    http://shop.dallasco...

    The blues don’t match and the jerseys didn’t have the NFL shield on the front when Roger played.[/quote]

    Ding Ding Ding.

    Also it’s being sold as an authentic Staubach, with truncated sleeve stripes and a huge reebok logo.[/quote]

    I want one of those like right now.

  • Hott Rodd | July 14, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”339792″][quote comment=”339775″][quote comment=\”339747\”]Seriously? Replica PRACTICE jerseys?

    http://store.philade...

    only if the team had red in its usual color scheme would i consider buying this. or if they played a valentine’s day game :)[/quote]
    Except it isn’t. The retail version is nothing more than a standard replica jersey that is predominantly red instead of “midnight green.” This is a real practice jersey. Notice how it is a simple, one-layer white number. The red fashion jersey (I’m not calling a QB practice jersey, because I’ve shown that it isn’t) has a border and dropshadow on the number, while the real practice jersey does not.
    And that, my friends, is today’s merchandise EPIC FAIL on Uni Watch, courtesy of Reebok and the NFL. (Hey Teebz, care to whip out the Bush-43 stamp?)[/quote]

    Wait wait wait.. The Staubach Jersey was my entry into the Epic Fail contest for today. Shouldn’t we have them judged or something. You can’t just declare yourself the winner mike :-P

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”339794″][quote comment=”339759″][quote comment=”339756″][quote comment=”339751″]The kind of stuff I notice now that drives me crazy..

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    http://shop.dallasco...

    The blues don’t match and the jerseys didn’t have the NFL shield on the front when Roger played.[/quote]

    Ding Ding Ding.

    Also it’s being sold as an authentic Staubach, with truncated sleeve stripes and a huge reebok logo.[/quote]

    I want one of those like right now.[/quote]

    i don’t see the problem if they are selling it as an nfl authentic with dodgers name and numeral. the problem, or uni gaffs, only exist if they are selling it as an authentic throwbauch, because it is a right proper nfl authentic up to current cowgirl standards. do i like it? no. but i don’t have a problem with it either, it is accurately marketed to sell to people with assclowners disease.

  • Hott Rodd | July 14, 2009 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”339796″][quote comment=”339794″][quote comment=”339759″][quote comment=”339756″][quote comment=”339751″]The kind of stuff I notice now that drives me crazy..

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    http://shop.dallasco...

    The blues don’t match and the jerseys didn’t have the NFL shield on the front when Roger played.[/quote]

    Ding Ding Ding.

    Also it’s being sold as an authentic Staubach, with truncated sleeve stripes and a huge reebok logo.[/quote]

    I want one of those like right now.[/quote]

    i don’t see the problem if they are selling it as an nfl authentic with dodgers name and numeral. the problem, or uni gaffs, only exist if they are selling it as an authentic throwbauch, because it is a right proper nfl authentic up to current cowgirl standards. do i like it? no. but i don’t have a problem with it either, it is accurately marketed to sell to people with assclowners disease.[/quote]

    Yes but if i click on the “Legends” tab under Jerseys, and see a Staubach jersey with this jock tab

    http://shop.dallasco...

    I suppose I would be expecting to purchase something closer to what he actually wore.

    Also, if you move on over to NFLshop.com, that same jersey is called a “Throwback”

    http://www.nflshop.c...

  • kyle. | July 14, 2009 at 3:54 pm |

    i was just listening to former sportscenter host chris myers and steve hartman on am570 in los angeles when a caller asked if there was a rule regarding how baseball players where their hats. the guy had a problem with the crooked hats and flat bills. this lead to a discussion of the long pants and neither host had any idea about the fact that players are supposed to show at least some sock. they digressed into complaining about younger guys wearing flat bills and it was a sad, sad conversation.
    on a related note, i was at the angels-yankees game in anaheim on sunday where i noticed that cc sabbathia’s uniform looks even more like giant pajamas from the fourth row than they ever did on tv.

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 3:55 pm |

    i stand corrected my good sir, i didn’t notice that. if it’s a throwbach throwback, then it is wrong. but even if everything colourwise etc was accurate the materials would still be wrong.

    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”339793″][quote comment=”339792″]care to whip out the Bush-43 stamp?[/quote]

    this one?[/quote]

    No, this one. :o)

  • Gus Money | July 14, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”339691″][quote comment=”339665″]c’mon now….after a game, ok, whatever…but after the HR Derby? http://news.yahoo.co...

    if nothing else, it’s consistent….[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with the concept of the Brewers untucking their jerseys after a win given the story behind it, and in a way it was cool that Fielder continued that tradition at the Derby, but he just looked ridiculous with that extremely over sized jersey. It looked like an old fashioned night gown. Not good.[/quote]

    I recall the 1996 Celebrity Softball game prior the All-Star game.

    Kent Tekulve was pitching to Jerry Stackhouse (NBA player) and Teke would not throw him a pitch until Stack put his hat on the proper way. He had been wearing it backwards. Jerry begrudgingly turned his hat.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”339800″]
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    Ah, those were the days, Robert!

    Still waiting for your email about the curling brooms, btw.

  • tom | July 14, 2009 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”339721″]Re: Michigan Hockey Jersey
    Along the wall at Yost Ice Arena, there’s photos of all the great U-M hockey players dating back somethings like 80 years. Let me tell you, there are some real beauties. Next season i’ll take pictures and post them online.

    Also the sweater from the picture, there’s was an older season ticket holder that wore a remade version of that exact sweater, I always meant to ask him about it, but I never ran into him.[/quote]

    check this out: http://quod.lib.umic...

  • Bernard | July 14, 2009 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”339800″]i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    My gf wore a vintage Swann to the last Pittsburgh UW party:
    http://farm4.static....

  • aflfan | July 14, 2009 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”339764″][quote comment=”339760″]hmmm[/quote]

    “Yankees Universe,” huh? Nothing like blowing past Red Sox Nation – didn’t settle for Planet Yankee, Yankees Galaxy, etc.

    Well, for those of us who grew up reading DC Comics, we know the Yankees didn’t go as far as they could have. Therefore I think I’ll start a Pirates Multiverse fan club. Take that, team that lost the 1960 World Series![/quote]

    Can’t wait for the blast from Vince McMahon since he has been using WWE Universe for some time now.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”339805″][quote comment=”339800″]i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    My gf wore a vintage Swann to the last Pittsburgh UW party:
    http://farm4.static....

    Wow, If you don’t email that to Rob Ullman I will! Very nice jersey…

  • joe | July 14, 2009 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”339768″][quote comment=”339762″]
    OK, I’m not saying it ISN’T upside-down. Clearly it is. What I’m saying is that it isn’t obvious that it’s upside-down.[/quote]

    It is to me. It’s painfully obvious. :o)

    And the Tallon firing is due to his immense stupidity. He signs Hossa for a ridiculous length of time at an idiotic amount when he could have had Martin Havlat back at a much lower price. Then he effs up the RFA offers by MAILING them out when the CBA explicitly states that they are to be couriered or faxed ONLY. In doing so, he is forced to sign both Barker and Versteeg at market value when they could have been kept with low price tags for this coming season. Next season, the ‘Hawks are in deep, deep doo-doo in terms of the salary cap.

    Stupidity + ineptitude = unemployment. It was that simple.[/quote]
    As a Hawks fan, Hossa is a better deal then Havlat, better player and more durable. The length of the contract is fine its helping to get around salary cap rules. He’s under 35 so when he does not finish out the contract the Hawks are off the hook for most of the money.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”339807″][quote comment=”339805″][quote comment=”339800″]i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    My gf wore a vintage Swann to the last Pittsburgh UW party:
    http://farm4.static....

    Wow, If you don’t email that to Rob Ullman I will! Very nice jersey…[/quote]

    I meant that for your benefit, of course, Bernard. That would be a great pinup for you.

  • Bernard | July 14, 2009 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”339809″][quote comment=”339807″][quote comment=”339805″][quote comment=”339800″]i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    My gf wore a vintage Swann to the last Pittsburgh UW party:
    http://farm4.static....

    Wow, If you don’t email that to Rob Ullman I will! Very nice jersey…[/quote]

    I meant that for your benefit, of course, Bernard. That would be a great pinup for you.[/quote]

    Haha, yeah, I get it Jim! ;) I’ve actually spoken to Rob about it, albeit with a James Harrison throwback instead of the 88. Probably a Christmas present to myself.

  • Jonathan | July 14, 2009 at 4:53 pm |

    any ballpark idea of how much he charges for those custom pinup drawings?

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 4:53 pm |

    Back to indoor soccer form a couple days ago did anyone see the goal on Sports Center last night? Good stuff.

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”339805″][quote comment=”339800″]i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    My gf wore a vintage Swann to the last Pittsburgh UW party:
    http://farm4.static....

    the lead for the band i saw sunday night, magnolia electric company, wore one of those on stage, but it was a blank. a great look! what are the chances of someone from yo la tengo wearing one on saturday at pitchfork? prolly not good.

  • HungryHungryHipster | July 14, 2009 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”339763″][quote comment=”339646″]Hey guys, HHH here…

    I’m almost done with making city flag jerseys for every NFL team. Due to the positive response from UniWatch readers, the fact Paul likes them, and the fact that I’m addicted to making them, I came up with an idea:

    By request, I will design custom flag/crest/shield jerseys for your high school, college, frat, town, city, family crest, and/or last name heraldry/coat of arms. It doesn’t have to be a football jersey; it can be a jersey for any sport.

    I am still working out the details of this idea. So before I spend more time trying to figure everything out, I just wanted to get an idea of whether there was any interest. So, anybody interested?[/quote]

    I am interested. I’d like to see what you could come up with.[/quote]

    Hello, Dave Mac! Good to hear you’re interested. For what sport would you want the jersey to be? Do you want it designed after the flag/shield/crest of a high school, college, or something else? Post what you’d want in the comments, and please be specific so I can get a good idea of what you’re looking for. (BTW: Are we allowed to post contact information in the comments? Somehow we’ll have to figure out a way to get in touch with each other…) -HHH

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”339803″][quote comment=”339800″]
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    Ah, those were the days, Robert!

    Still waiting for your email about the curling brooms, btw.[/quote]

    i promise i will get to it as soon as i am done with this batch of bobbles, and my midweek umpire/stats nightmare.

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”339774″]… “Uni Watch By the Numbers”. It would be a section of Uni Watch records such as, “Most posts in one day”, “Most posts by an individual poster”, “Total number of unique posters”, “Number of major changes to the site”, etc. etc.[/quote]
    Pie chart?

    ;-)))

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”339783″]If you guys have not done so already, You MUST check out the July 13/20 edition of Sports Illustrated.[/quote]
    If there was a picture of Dave Dravecky driving a motorcycle in that mag, I’d give my left…

  • HungryHungryHipster | July 14, 2009 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”339682″]I’m thoroughly enjoying HHH’s city flag jersey project. However, as a Wisconsin boy, it’s fair to say the Packers are more a statewide phenomenon than Green Bay phenomenon. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin state flag is less…um, let’s say…interesting than the Green Bay city flag:
    http://commons.wikim...

    I actually have a similar project involving state flags in works… -HHH

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”339770″]And he’s a vegetarian. Must be vegetable tempura.[/quote]Someone pointed out to me that butter is technically considered part of a vegetarian diet….

  • Kris Fulton | July 14, 2009 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”339685″][quote comment=”339676″]Do Yankees yearbooks from the 1970s have photos of all personnel working for the team? Seems like the mystery man from the ’77 ASG could be identified in that way.[/quote]

    Excellent idea. Will investigate![/quote]

    Any chance it’s the team photographer, Michael Grossbardt? You would expect him to be amongst the players lining up the photo, and absent from the official pic.

  • Bob from Akron | July 14, 2009 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”339751″]The kind of stuff I notice now that drives me crazy..

    What’s wrong with this picture?

    http://shop.dallasco...

    My first thought was the lame number font. The font should be like so (OK, this is the rarely worn blue jersey, but you get the idea):

    here

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”339808″]
    As a Hawks fan, Hossa is a better deal then Havlat, better player and more durable. The length of the contract is fine its helping to get around salary cap rules. He’s under 35 so when he does not finish out the contract the Hawks are off the hook for most of the money.[/quote]

    I disagree whole-heartedly.

    Hossa may be more durable, but there’s no guarantee on injuries. Havlat’s past may have had something to do with it, but Havlat outscored Hossa last season in both the regular season and playoffs despite playing in less games. Havlat’s two years younger, and comes in at $200,000 less per year. In fact, I would guess that Havlat would have given Chicago a discount due to his love of playing there last season had they simply called him. But they didn’t.

    The CBA states that any player under 35 at the time of signing the contract will not have the salary count against the cap if they choose to retire. The problem for the Hawks isn’t retirement. It’s next season and the season after.

    Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith… you have a lot of young stars to sign, and these players will get huge money on the open market. Unless Hossa retires at age 30 (which is insane after signing for 12 years), Tallon will have caused the Hawks lose some big names. He already signed Barker and Versteeg to major increases after his gaffe with the RFA mishap, so you’re eating up major cap space with his errors.

    After all, you have no goaltender this season besides Huet. Why? Because they couldn’t afford to sign Khabibulin. Good luck with the Flying Frenchman guarding the twine.

  • Momofuku | July 14, 2009 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”339748″][quote comment=”339744″][quote comment=”339737″][quote comment=”339729″]Was also at Keyspan Park last night. Both Wilco and Yo La Tengo were sublime. But it must be pointed out that Ira Kaplan throws like a girl.[/quote]

    I asked Ira about that after the show (I’ve known him since 1987ish). He said there was “heated discussion” discussion about this before their set. He was planning to throw the balls way up high. But then they thought, “Hmmm, Wilco is from Chicago, so maybe there are Chicago fans here. And we’re the opening band, which is sort of like being the visiting team. And what do Chicago fans do when they get a ball hit by the visiting team? They THROW IT BACK.”

    So he just lobbed the balls because they were afraid that the balls might get whipped back at them onstage.[/quote]
    That’s insane.

    First, I think Jeff Tweedy’s the only one in the band that lives in Chicago. Second, he’s originally from Belleville, IL and he’s a Cardinals fan.

    I’m going to see YLT on Friday. If I get close enough to the stage, I’m going to have to mention something about this to the band.[/quote]
    Or maybe I should just bring a baseball and ask them to sign it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    BTW, since I didn’t make it clear in my original comment, Belleville is just across the Mississippi River from St. Louis.[/quote]

    Jay Bennett once kicked Lou Brock in the groin – it’s true – you can look it up.

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”339822″]I disagree whole-heartedly.

    Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith… you have a lot of young stars to sign, and these players will get huge money on the open market. Unless Hossa retires at age 30 (which is insane after signing for 12 years), Tallon will have caused the Hawks lose some big names. He already signed Barker and Versteeg to major increases after his gaffe with the RFA mishap, so you’re eating up major cap space with his errors.[/quote]
    Teebz, one thing being talked about today is that CBA/qualifying offer mess is merely the final straw for Tallon. But specifically in regard to the Hossa 12 year thing, people are saying that not just Tallon but the Bowmans had a voice in that offer.

    JMHO, but SOMETHING happened, be it the offers or something like that. Nobody in hockey gets canned (or more accurately, kicked upstairs) on July 15th.

    I’m sure the press will have more tomorrow. Just caught a very short interview with one of the beat writers at lunch.

  • Bernard | July 14, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”339813″][quote comment=”339805″][quote comment=”339800″]i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    My gf wore a vintage Swann to the last Pittsburgh UW party:
    http://farm4.static....

    the lead for the band i saw sunday night, magnolia electric company, wore one of those on stage, but it was a blank. a great look! what are the chances of someone from yo la tengo wearing one on saturday at pitchfork? prolly not good.[/quote]

    Magnolia Electric Co. has, in the past, toured with a Pgh group called Grand Buffet, which I think you’d dig (if you’re not already familiar, Robert).

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 5:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”339824″][quote comment=”339822″]I disagree whole-heartedly.

    Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith… you have a lot of young stars to sign, and these players will get huge money on the open market. Unless Hossa retires at age 30 (which is insane after signing for 12 years), Tallon will have caused the Hawks lose some big names. He already signed Barker and Versteeg to major increases after his gaffe with the RFA mishap, so you’re eating up major cap space with his errors.[/quote]
    Teebz, one thing being talked about today is that CBA/qualifying offer mess is merely the final straw for Tallon. But specifically in regard to the Hossa 12 year thing, people are saying that not just Tallon but the Bowmans had a voice in that offer.

    JMHO, but SOMETHING happened, be it the offers or something like that. Nobody in hockey gets canned (or more accurately, kicked upstairs) on July 15th.

    I’m sure the press will have more tomorrow. Just caught a very short interview with one of the beat writers at lunch.[/quote]

    The Hossa deal, while good, could have been Havlat for less. I’ll agree that the Bowmans probably had a hand in the signing, especially considering how good of a scout Scotty is, but the RFA problem handcuffs the Hawks.

    In fact, there was no reason to sign Hossa or Havlat at all in my view. He’s not the game-breaker that everyone thinks he is. Personally, the Hawks should have continued down the path of developing from within that got them to where they were last season. Especially when the biggest reason they got to where they were signed in the off-season with Edmonton because Tallon blew his wad on Hossa instead of goaltending.

  • DenverGregg | July 14, 2009 at 5:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”339818″][quote comment=”339682″]I’m thoroughly enjoying HHH’s city flag jersey project. However, as a Wisconsin boy, it’s fair to say the Packers are more a statewide phenomenon than Green Bay phenomenon. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin state flag is less…um, let’s say…interesting than the Green Bay city flag:
    http://commons.wikim...

    I actually have a similar project involving state flags in works… -HHH[/quote]
    Hockey’s Colorado Rockies used the state flag in their logo.

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”339826″]
    The Hossa deal, while good, could have been Havlat for less. I’ll agree that the Bowmans probably had a hand in the signing, especially considering how good of a scout Scotty is, but the RFA problem handcuffs the Hawks.

    In fact, there was no reason to sign Hossa or Havlat at all in my view. He’s not the game-breaker that everyone thinks he is. Personally, the Hawks should have continued down the path of developing from within that got them to where they were last season. Especially when the biggest reason they got to where they were signed in the off-season with Edmonton because Tallon blew his wad on Hossa instead of goaltending.[/quote]
    Apparently one thing that’s out there right now is that Havlat is all but saying “told ya so”.

    Goaltending, from this fan’s perspective: I never thought they’d go all year (2008-09) with that much money tied up in goaltenders. I thought we’d trade one before Thanksgiving for sure; just to get something out of it because everyone knew Habbuhlin (sp) was gone at the end of the season. And with that said, with Huet signed for big money there’s no way we’re spending anything on a goalie right now. IMHO we may wait until training camps start before making a move there.

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 6:07 pm |

    I thought I posted this earlier: Teebz, are you going to the track with Eddie Olzcek this weekend? :-))

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 6:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”339762″]Dale Tallon: did the Bowmans (Bowmen?) orchestrate the whole late filing thing so they had an excuse to fire him?[/quote]
    The Bowmi had no reason to orchestrate things IMHO. I think before next year Tallon would have “accepted a promotion within the Wirtz Ore Gahn Eye Zay Shun”, a la Pully.

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 6:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”339829″]I thought I posted this earlier: Teebz, are you going to the track with Eddie Olzcek this weekend? :-))[/quote]

    Nah, he was here last weekend at the track, and it wasn’t all that great. He did have some good pointers, but I don’t bet on horses at all. He’ll be playing golf this week. Otherwise, he wanted little to do with talking to non-credentialed media at the event who wanted to ask him a few questions… namely, me. LOL

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 6:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”339828″][quote comment=”339826″]
    The Hossa deal, while good, could have been Havlat for less. I’ll agree that the Bowmans probably had a hand in the signing, especially considering how good of a scout Scotty is, but the RFA problem handcuffs the Hawks.

    In fact, there was no reason to sign Hossa or Havlat at all in my view. He’s not the game-breaker that everyone thinks he is. Personally, the Hawks should have continued down the path of developing from within that got them to where they were last season. Especially when the biggest reason they got to where they were signed in the off-season with Edmonton because Tallon blew his wad on Hossa instead of goaltending.[/quote]
    Apparently one thing that’s out there right now is that Havlat is all but saying “told ya so”.

    Goaltending, from this fan’s perspective: I never thought they’d go all year (2008-09) with that much money tied up in goaltenders. I thought we’d trade one before Thanksgiving for sure; just to get something out of it because everyone knew Habbuhlin (sp) was gone at the end of the season. And with that said, with Huet signed for big money there’s no way we’re spending anything on a goalie right now. IMHO we may wait until training camps start before making a move there.[/quote]

    Totally agree, but Tallon needed Huet last season. The guy is an impulse spender, it seems. And that’s the last thing your GM should be.

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”339825″][quote comment=”339813″][quote comment=”339805″][quote comment=”339800″]i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    My gf wore a vintage Swann to the last Pittsburgh UW party:
    http://farm4.static....

    the lead for the band i saw sunday night, magnolia electric company, wore one of those on stage, but it was a blank. a great look! what are the chances of someone from yo la tengo wearing one on saturday at pitchfork? prolly not good.[/quote]

    Magnolia Electric Co. has, in the past, toured with a Pgh group called Grand Buffet, which I think you’d dig (if you’re not already familiar, Robert).[/quote]

    familiar with the name, i’ll check into it, thanks for the tip. so you’ve seen magnolia before? are they fantastic or what? great song about moving from chicago, shot super 8(i think). well, i am a sucker for the images of chicago super 8 or not.

  • another Josh | July 14, 2009 at 6:42 pm |

    The ESPN Page 2 column noted this photo of the 1977 Yankees. Anyone know why Catfish Hunter is the only one in the photo wearing a glove?

  • Aram | July 14, 2009 at 6:46 pm |

    I saw a guy wearing a replica of one of those 1947-era Michigan hockey jerseys at a game last season. Have no idea where he got it, and didn’t get to ask, but in color it was something to behold. Beautiful stuff.

  • Travis P. | July 14, 2009 at 6:47 pm |

    Paul,

    Please post the scan of the Wilco program. I am needing a Wilco fix. “The Album” hasn’t left my cd player in weeks, and still no word when they will be back on the west coast (of America… I may have to book a flight to Oslo or Helsinki.

    http://punkrockpaint...

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”339831″] He did have some good pointers, but I don’t bet on horses at all. [/quote]
    He did. :-)))

  • anotherguy | July 14, 2009 at 7:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”339832″]Totally agree, but Tallon needed Huet last season. The guy is an impulse spender, it seems. And that’s the last thing your GM should be.[/quote]Well, now he’s the last thing our GM is. :-)

    A lot of people here have talked about Kane, et al. IMHO we need someone to take the bull by the horns in the next few days (if they haven’t already) and call these guys and tell them that they’re in the plans.

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 8:09 pm |

    Phil and Paul, this may interest you, but for the hockey and baseball people, it may be quite interesting as well.

    There was/is an on-going discussion about teams that put “World Champs” on their jerseys in baseball. I now have found that this existed in hockey long before it seems to have existed in baseball.

    While looking for photos for my current article, I discovered this photo of Babe Dye of the Toronto St. Pats that has to be from the 1933-34 season. Why? Because the patch on his chest says “World Champions 1932-33”.

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 8:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”339840″]Phil and Paul, this may interest you, but for the hockey and baseball people, it may be quite interesting as well.

    There was/is an on-going discussion about teams that put “World Champs” on their jerseys in baseball. I now have found that this existed in hockey long before it seems to have existed in baseball.

    While looking for photos for my current article, I discovered this photo of Babe Dye of the Toronto St. Pats that has to be from the 1933-34 season. Why? Because the patch on his chest says “World Champions 1932-33”.[/quote]

    Make that the 1923-24 season. After blowing it up, it’s “World Champions 1922-23”. :o)

  • jesse | July 14, 2009 at 8:15 pm |

    no alternate jerseys in ASG, dig it..

  • Mike Engle | July 14, 2009 at 8:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”339842″]no alternate jerseys in ASG, dig it..[/quote]
    Yes there are…Santana and K-Rod wearing black/blue caps with snow whites. Damn Mets.

  • jesse | July 14, 2009 at 8:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”339843″][quote comment=”339842″]no alternate jerseys in ASG, dig it..[/quote]
    Yes there are…Santana and K-Rod wearing black/blue caps with snow whites. Damn Mets.[/quote]
    ugh, good call. i meant no colored tops, but good point. blue caps so good, i dont understandddd

  • =bg= | July 14, 2009 at 8:22 pm |

    Let’s see, Ichiro wearing silver Asics. Couple gys wearing white cleats, too. Forget who.

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”339845″]Let’s see, Ichiro wearing silver Asics. Couple gys wearing white cleats, too. Forget who.[/quote]

    Pujols looked clean in his white pants and cleats last night.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 8:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”339836″]Paul,

    Please post the scan of the Wilco program. I am needing a Wilco fix. “The Album” hasn’t left my cd player in weeks, and still no word when they will be back on the west coast (of America… I may have to book a flight to Oslo or Helsinki.[/quote]

    Tomorrow.

  • =bg= | July 14, 2009 at 8:41 pm |

    Barry with the White Sox jacket- bet he didm’t have to pay for that one, either.

    PS- the pre-game show is brought to you by P****, in case you hadn’t heard Buck slip that in.

    Advertisers must love this guy.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 8:45 pm |

    Taco Bell keeps running that apostrophe catastrophe at the end of its commercials:
    http://farm4.static....

    They’ve been doing that since the Super Bowl, grrrrr…..

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 8:49 pm |

    So they showed Obama but they didn’t show the pitch.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 8:51 pm |

    Looks like something on the back of Ichiro’s batting helmet. Signature..? ASG logo decal? Probably the latter…

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 8:56 pm |

    Buck just said Mauer has “one of the prettiest left-handed swings you’ll see.” Actually, you NEVER hear about righties having “pretty” or “sweet” swings. It’s ALWAYS lefties whose swings are described this way, I assume because the momentum of their swing is moving toward first base, so the swing/run transition is more fluid…

  • Tom | July 14, 2009 at 8:57 pm |

    That was actually Barack’s own jacket. I’ve seen it in photos of him in the Chicago Tribune. Way to go Barack!

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 9:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”339841″][quote comment=”339840″]Phil and Paul, this may interest you, but for the hockey and baseball people, it may be quite interesting as well.

    There was/is an on-going discussion about teams that put “World Champs” on their jerseys in baseball. I now have found that this existed in hockey long before it seems to have existed in baseball.

    While looking for photos for my current article, I discovered this photo of Babe Dye of the Toronto St. Pats that has to be from the 1933-34 season. Why? Because the patch on his chest says “World Champions 1932-33”.[/quote]

    Make that the 1923-24 season. After blowing it up, it’s “World Champions 1922-23”. :o)[/quote]

    geez, teebz

    i guess you don’t read my weekend posts ;)

    baseball had already done it twice before the pats put on their patch

    *sighs*

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 9:10 pm |

    hey paul

    still got that over/under?

    and what are we at now?

  • luke h | July 14, 2009 at 9:11 pm |

    Halladay forgot his helmet.

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 9:11 pm |

    Halladay has a generic helmet

    “May be Evan Longoria’s”

  • aflfan | July 14, 2009 at 9:12 pm |

    Halladay is wearing Longaria’s helmet without the TB logo.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 9:12 pm |

    Looks like they could chroma key a Jays logo on Halladay’s helmet

  • luke h | July 14, 2009 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”339856″]Halladay forgot his helmet.[/quoteHe is wearing Longorias w/o the sticker.

  • Rick | July 14, 2009 at 9:13 pm |

    Paul must be so excited about Halladay’s helmet!

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 9:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”339858″]Halladay is wearing Longaria’s helmet without the TB logo.[/quote]

    maybe he just got traded? ;)

  • chris | July 14, 2009 at 9:14 pm |

    so they commented on halladay wearing longoria’s helmet… man i hate black toronto. seriously. make it blue. like ROYAL blue. Sure, do the powder thing, but ROYAL as primary. Yeah, got ticked when i saw Wright in the black hat with the white uni. PINSTRIPES AND ALL BLUE HAT! You sir, and the other Mets in the wrong uni, you are the jinx that will make the NL lose yet again. Not skill, stupid choices.

  • Johnny O | July 14, 2009 at 9:14 pm |

    Those Ichiro Asics are amazing! Does he wear them often?

  • Ryan B | July 14, 2009 at 9:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”339857″]Halladay has a generic helmet

    “May be Evan Longoria’s”[/quote]

    Definitely Longoria’s. Had the number 3 on the back.

  • Hitch | July 14, 2009 at 9:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”339857″]Halladay has a generic helmet

    “May be Evan Longoria’s”[/quote]
    It was when they showed the back part of it. It was number 3 and the MLB logo had Rays colors.

  • aflfan | July 14, 2009 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”339862″][quote comment=”339858″]Halladay is wearing Longaria’s helmet without the TB logo.[/quote]

    maybe he just got traded? ;)[/quote]

    HA!

  • Bernard | July 14, 2009 at 9:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”339833″][quote comment=”339825″][quote comment=”339813″][quote comment=”339805″][quote comment=”339800″]i stupid…
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    My gf wore a vintage Swann to the last Pittsburgh UW party:
    http://farm4.static....

    the lead for the band i saw sunday night, magnolia electric company, wore one of those on stage, but it was a blank. a great look! what are the chances of someone from yo la tengo wearing one on saturday at pitchfork? prolly not good.[/quote]

    Magnolia Electric Co. has, in the past, toured with a Pgh group called Grand Buffet, which I think you’d dig (if you’re not already familiar, Robert).[/quote]

    familiar with the name, i’ll check into it, thanks for the tip. so you’ve seen magnolia before? are they fantastic or what? great song about moving from chicago, shot super 8(i think). well, i am a sucker for the images of chicago super 8 or not.[/quote]

    Certainly. Magnolia is excellent. Grand Buffet is different, but I think you’ll appreciate…

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 9:18 pm |

    Apparently McCarver raided Craig Sager’s closet.

  • Brian | July 14, 2009 at 9:19 pm |

    Here’s pics of Halladay’s helmet.

    http://farm3.static....

    http://farm4.static....

  • aflfan | July 14, 2009 at 9:20 pm |

    I would like to see that scorebook in front of Joe. It looks like a very nice one.

  • bheat23 | July 14, 2009 at 9:22 pm |

    Just barely squeezed into the frame after Wright’s single was Joe Torre coaching first base with a Cardinals helmet on.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 9:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”339873″]Just barely squeezed into the frame after Wright’s single was Joe Torre coaching first base with a Cardinals helmet on.[/quote]

    Screen shot please!

  • Samuel | July 14, 2009 at 9:29 pm |

    Is it me or is Doc Halladay’s jersey super soaked in sweat? I know that the coolbase jersey grays arent the same as the pants in some instances, but does it really look that noticeable or am I just seeing things?

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 9:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”339874″][quote comment=”339873″]Just barely squeezed into the frame after Wright’s single was Joe Torre coaching first base with a Cardinals helmet on.[/quote]

    Screen shot please![/quote]

    here

  • =bg= | July 14, 2009 at 9:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”339864″]Those Ichiro Asics are amazing! Does he wear them often?[/quote]

    Not with the M’s!

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 9:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”339876″][quote comment=”339874″][quote comment=”339873″]Just barely squeezed into the frame after Wright’s single was Joe Torre coaching first base with a Cardinals helmet on.[/quote]

    Screen shot please![/quote]

    here[/quote]

    Old Skool. I guess he didn’t want to borrow O-Dawg’s double flap

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 9:36 pm |

    Getting to look at all of these pictures beforehand is like the day before Christmas… sneaking into the basement and looking at the presents the night before and then acting surprised the next day. (I would assume… because I’m jewish)

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”339877″][quote comment=”339864″]Those Ichiro Asics are amazing! Does he wear them often?[/quote]

    Not with the M’s![/quote]

    I think there was a Uni Watch column about white/alternate shoes being worn at the ASG in years past.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 9:40 pm |

    Incidentally, even if you don’t have an MLB.TV account, you can see all sorts of camera angles for free for this game:
    http://mlb.mlb.com/m...

  • Tony Miller | July 14, 2009 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”339871″]I would like to see that scorebook in front of Joe. It looks like a very nice one.[/quote]
    poor image, but this is the one
    bcscorebook.com

  • Teebz | July 14, 2009 at 9:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”339854″][quote comment=”339841″][quote comment=”339840″]Phil and Paul, this may interest you, but for the hockey and baseball people, it may be quite interesting as well.

    There was/is an on-going discussion about teams that put “World Champs” on their jerseys in baseball. I now have found that this existed in hockey long before it seems to have existed in baseball.

    While looking for photos for my current article, I discovered this photo of Babe Dye of the Toronto St. Pats that has to be from the 1933-34 season. Why? Because the patch on his chest says “World Champions 1932-33”.[/quote]

    Make that the 1923-24 season. After blowing it up, it’s “World Champions 1922-23”. :o)[/quote]

    geez, teebz

    i guess you don’t read my weekend posts ;)

    baseball had already done it twice before the pats put on their patch

    *sighs*[/quote]

    I do, but my memory is very short as of late.

    I’m hunting for more. That can’t be hockey’s only instance.

  • aflfan | July 14, 2009 at 9:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”339882″][quote comment=”339871″]I would like to see that scorebook in front of Joe. It looks like a very nice one.[/quote]
    poor image, but this is the one
    bcscorebook.com[/quote]

    Thanks,

    I do lots of baseball and softball. I am always looking for a better score book. I usually do it on the computer but some places that is not possible.

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 9:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”339851″]Looks like something on the back of Ichiro’s batting helmet. Signature..? ASG logo decal? Probably the latter…[/quote]

    I’m guessing Obama’s autograph. Didn’t catch the whole conversation, but McCarver was saying something about the look of joy on Ichiro’s face when he met the president.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 9:53 pm |

    Apparently the Phillies don’t have the stones to have their gold trim on their jerseys.

  • Paul Lukas | July 14, 2009 at 9:56 pm |

    News flash: “Nationals” spelled correctly in ASG!

  • SteveSmith | July 14, 2009 at 9:59 pm |

    Sorry, no shot but Roy Halladay in his first plate appearnce was wearing Evan Longoria’s helmet w/o the Rays logo. Interesting.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 10:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”339849″]Taco Bell keeps running that apostrophe catastrophe at the end of its commercials:
    http://farm4.static....

    They’ve been doing that since the Super Bowl, grrrrr…..[/quote]
    Have you caught any of the commercials for “Inglourious Basterds” yet? Blink and you’ll miss it but KILL `EM ALL flashes across the screen about 2/3 of the way through one of them.

  • Steve | July 14, 2009 at 10:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”339888″]Sorry, no shot but Roy Halladay in his first plate appearnce was wearing Evan Longoria’s helmet w/o the Rays logo. Interesting.[/quote]

    Dude you’re about an hour late on that. There’s pics already.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 10:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”339850″]So they showed Obama but they didn’t show the pitch.[/quote]
    Sure they did — twice. They showed it live and then they replayed it while he was in the booth with Buck & McCarver.

    Or are you referring to the terrible camera angle they went with?

  • ChrisSh | July 14, 2009 at 10:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”339766″]Random Ramblings on the topics:

    1) Prince Fielder is approaching (or passed) scary-big status. The man needs to pass on the after-game buffet once in awhile.

    [/quote]

    Actually, Prince lost about 30 lbs during the offseason. I think he just keeps wearing bigger jerseys however…

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 10:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”339849″]Taco Bell keeps running that apostrophe catastrophe at the end of its commercials:
    http://farm4.static....

    They’ve been doing that since the Super Bowl, grrrrr…..[/quote]

    it’s all about the roosevelt’s baby

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 10:19 pm |

    Unfortunately I didn’t think about the consequences when I just shattered my television after that Taco Bell commercial. Now I won’t be able to watch the rest of the game.

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    Good Lord. Mark Buehrle’s inning of work was shorter than that Taco Bell commercial.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    (that ‘apostrophe catastrophe’ was done on purpose, btw)

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 10:22 pm |

    Mr. Slugworth?

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”339894″]Unfortunately I didn’t think about the consequences when I just shattered my television after that Taco Bell commercial. Now I won’t be able to watch the rest of the game.[/quote]

    If “Uni Watch by the numbers” has an award for funny post of the day, you’re in the running…

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 10:24 pm |

    Come to think of it, Halladay probably worked a quicker second inning than that commercial.

  • aflfan | July 14, 2009 at 10:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”339899″]Come to think of it, Halladay probably worked a quicker second inning than that commercial.[/quote]

    My kidney transplant surgery was shorter than Tac Bell spot.

  • Oakville Endive | July 14, 2009 at 10:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”339815″][quote comment=”339803″][quote comment=”339800″]
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    Ah, those were the days, Robert!

    Still waiting for your email about the curling brooms, btw.[/quote]

    i promise i will get to it as soon as i am done with this batch of bobbles, and my midweek umpire/stats nightmare.[/quote]

    Did the Falcons ever have silver numbers?

  • aflfan | July 14, 2009 at 10:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”339901″][quote comment=”339815″][quote comment=”339803″][quote comment=”339800″]
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    Ah, those were the days, Robert!

    Still waiting for your email about the curling brooms, btw.[/quote]

    i promise i will get to it as soon as i am done with this batch of bobbles, and my midweek umpire/stats nightmare.[/quote]

    Did the Falcons ever have silver numbers?[/quote]

    I seem to recall they did in the 70’s but don’t quote me on it.

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 10:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”339891″][quote comment=”339850″]So they showed Obama but they didn’t show the pitch.[/quote]
    Sure they did — twice. They showed it live and then they replayed it while he was in the booth with Buck & McCarver.

    Or are you referring to the terrible camera angle they went with?[/quote]

    Camera angle. Can’t really see the flight of the ball.

  • =bg= | July 14, 2009 at 10:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”339891″][quote comment=”339850″]So they showed Obama but they didn’t show the pitch.[/quote]
    Sure they did — twice. They showed it live and then they replayed it while he was in the booth with Buck & McCarver.

    Or are you referring to the terrible camera angle they went with?[/quote]

    http://www.huffingto...

  • JimV19 | July 14, 2009 at 10:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”339901″][quote comment=”339815″][quote comment=”339803″][quote comment=”339800″]
    Did the Falcons ever have silver numbers?[/quote]

    Yes. http://www.retrothro...

    http://4.bp.blogspot...

    At least it sure looks like it, and I seem to recall them having silver numbers.

    BTW, while searching for this, I found this WFL pic: http://www.wfl1974.c...
    I never noticed the officials’ unis before.

  • Johnny O | July 14, 2009 at 10:47 pm |

    Don’t know if it was mentioned, but I am pretty sure Prince Fielder used one of Ryan Braun’s new line of bats in last nights Home Run Derby. I don’t know if he has been using them in the regular season however.

    Here is the story on Braun’s new line of maple bats:
    http://brewersbeat.m...

    And here is an image from the Home Run Derby. You can clearly see the number 8 on the bottom of the bat:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    I am pretty sure this is a different bat that he used in warm-ups:
    http://sports.yahoo....

    P.S. I like the fact Fielder wore matching batting gloves for the derby.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”339902″][quote comment=”339901″][quote comment=”339815″][quote comment=”339803″][quote comment=”339800″]
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    Ah, those were the days, Robert!

    Still waiting for your email about the curling brooms, btw.[/quote]

    i promise i will get to it as soon as i am done with this batch of bobbles, and my midweek umpire/stats nightmare.[/quote]

    Did the Falcons ever have silver numbers?[/quote]

    I seem to recall they did in the 70’s but don’t quote me on it.[/quote]

    according to fupp they wore them from 78-89

    visual (photographic) evidence is sketchy…most pics im finding appear to have white numerals

    is this gray/silver?

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 10:51 pm |

    Dumb comment of the night: “Kevin Youkilis cannot play two positions at the same time”

  • bartusball | July 14, 2009 at 10:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”339769″]”2) How about resurrecting the old Home Run Derby at the end of each season? Like the classic show from the ealry 60s…”

    Was late ’50s (Harmon Killebrew and Jim Lemon were in Senators unis, Bob Cerv in KC A’s)…and I loved it. Talk about something I wish had been filmed in color! Many of us likely have never seen some of those uniforms in motion and in color (A’s and Senators, to be sure).

    Probably couldn’t do the show these days. Back then, the prize money, though small, was enough to make it worthwhile for the players.

    Anyone else remember when winners’ and losers’ share in things like WS or Super Bowl were a big deal? Now they get mentioned maybe once and are, by comparison to today’s salaries, chump change.

    So, in 2009 the payoff for a HR Derby like that would have to be enormous for any players to even consider it, I imagine.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Three volumes of Home Run Derby are available on DVD from Netflix! Occasionally the have them available to watch instantly on your computer.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”339908″]Dumb comment of the night: “Kevin Youkilis cannot play two positions at the same time”[/quote]

    mccarver’s grasp of the obvious cannot be underestimated

  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”339907″][quote comment=”339902″][quote comment=”339901″][quote comment=”339815″][quote comment=”339803″][quote comment=”339800″]
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    Ah, those were the days, Robert!

    Still waiting for your email about the curling brooms, btw.[/quote]

    i promise i will get to it as soon as i am done with this batch of bobbles, and my midweek umpire/stats nightmare.[/quote]

    Did the Falcons ever have silver numbers?[/quote]

    I seem to recall they did in the 70’s but don’t quote me on it.[/quote]

    according to fupp they wore them from 78-89

    visual (photographic) evidence is sketchy…most pics im finding appear to have white numerals

    is this gray/silver?[/quote]
    The Falcons’ website has a ton of scans of Topps cards. I just looked through a bunch of them and I can’t see any where it looks like the numbers are silver.

  • Chris in DC | July 14, 2009 at 10:56 pm |

    This is the sound of me rushing to download the Gatorade ringtone……..

  • aflfan | July 14, 2009 at 10:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”339910″][quote comment=”339908″]Dumb comment of the night: “Kevin Youkilis cannot play two positions at the same time”[/quote]

    mccarver’s grasp of the obvious cannot be underestimated[/quote]

    10 too many foul balls to the facemask?

  • Iowa City | July 14, 2009 at 11:00 pm |

    Really? do we really have to see Willie Mays wearing one of those awful BP caps with the ear trim? ACK!!!

    http://a323.yahoofs....

  • =bg= | July 14, 2009 at 11:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”339905″][quote comment=”339901″][quote comment=”339815″][quote comment=”339803″][quote comment=”339800″]
    Did the Falcons ever have silver numbers?[/quote]

    Yes. http://www.retrothro...

    http://4.bp.blogspot...

    At least it sure looks like it, and I seem to recall them having silver numbers.

    BTW, while searching for this, I found this WFL pic: http://www.wfl1974.c...
    I never noticed the officials’ unis before.[/quote]

    Solid silver numbers? No. They might’ve had some silver trim in those awful Jerry (did you notice my belt buckle?) Glanville years.

  • LI Phil | July 14, 2009 at 11:13 pm |
  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 11:18 pm |

    Iv’e been in and out of watching the game but here’s my list of people wearing white shoes:

    Ichiro

    Pujols

    H. Ramirez

    Wright

    Utley

    Y. Molina

    Haren

    Victorino

    Crawford

    Zimmerman

    Upton

    V. Martinez

    Bartlett

    Howard

    Hudson

  • Berto | July 14, 2009 at 11:20 pm |

    oops: “I’ve” and not Ichiro.

    Dag

  • Somebody here | July 14, 2009 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”339917″]Iv’e been in and out of watching the game but here’s my list of people wearing white shoes:

    Ichiro

    Pujols

    H. Ramirez

    Wright

    Utley

    Y. Molina

    Haren

    Victorino

    Crawford

    Zimmerman

    Upton

    V. Martinez

    Bartlett

    Howard

    Hudson[/quote]

    Ichiro was clearly wearing gaudy silver shoes. They had a closeup earlier.

  • Chris | July 14, 2009 at 11:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”339913″][quote comment=”339910″][quote comment=”339908″]Dumb comment of the night: “Kevin Youkilis cannot play two positions at the same time”[/quote]

    mccarver’s grasp of the obvious cannot be underestimated[/quote]

    10 too many foul balls to the facemask?[/quote]
    This reminds of a Sox-Yankees game when Tim started talking about Rear Window starring Raymond Burr, Audrey Hepburn, and James Stewart. After they came back from commercial break he corrected himself acknowledging that it Grace Kelly and not Audrey Hepburn.

  • Scott Davis | July 14, 2009 at 11:32 pm |

    Damn… no grand slams. I guess I will never get to see Disney’s G-Force, because I will never EVER fork up $10 to see it.

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”339901″][quote comment=”339815″][quote comment=”339803″][quote comment=”339800″]
    this is the only nfl jersey worth owning.[/quote]

    Ah, those were the days, Robert!

    Still waiting for your email about the curling brooms, btw.[/quote]

    i promise i will get to it as soon as i am done with this batch of bobbles, and my midweek umpire/stats nightmare.[/quote]

    Did the Falcons ever have silver numbers?[/quote]
    silver outlined in black in the mike andrews steve bartkowski era. that was a random question for that quote, but i like.

  • rpm | July 14, 2009 at 11:53 pm |
  • JTH | July 14, 2009 at 11:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”339923″]jth~
    all grey…
    http://images.ola.co...

    http://i16.ebayimg.c...

    https://www.beckett....

    http://z.hubpages.co...

    http://snakevenom12....

    white jersey, but great pixture…
    http://www.nfl.com.m...
    So I guess it was a really light silver/gray, unlike the Raiders? Like I said, I couldn’t really tell from those pix. They looked white to me.

    I’ll take your word for it.

  • Quint | July 15, 2009 at 12:05 am |

    So when’s the last time 2 different players wore double-earflap helmets in the same All Star Game?

  • DJ | July 15, 2009 at 12:15 am |

    Back to the Maple Leafs: I always thought they wore Varsity Blue, the darker (but not navy blue) shade worn by the University of Toronto. It’s certainly darker than the blue of the Rangers and Canadiens.

  • Johnny O | July 15, 2009 at 12:45 am |

    [quote comment=”339906″]Don’t know if it was mentioned, but I am pretty sure Prince Fielder used one of Ryan Braun’s new line of bats in last nights Home Run Derby. I don’t know if he has been using them in the regular season however.

    Here is the story on Braun’s new line of maple bats:
    http://brewersbeat.m...

    And here is an image from the Home Run Derby. You can clearly see the number 8 on the bottom of the bat:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    I am pretty sure this is a different bat that he used in warm-ups:
    http://sports.yahoo....

    P.S. I like the fact Fielder wore matching batting gloves for the derby.[/quote]

    I answered my own question. This was taken from Brewers.com, but still doesn’t answer why Fielder had the number 8 on his bat on Monday’s Home Run Derby:

    “Fielder’s contribution proved to be the highlight for the Brewers’ three representatives in Tuesday’s All-Star Game at Busch Stadium.

    Fielder owes some credit to teammate Rickie Weeks, whose bat the first baseman used both in Monday’s Derby, which he won, and again in Tuesday’s game. Fielder has hit with Weeks’ bat for much of the season.

    “I don’t have a specific bat,” Fielder said. “Whatever feels comfortable at the time, I’ll use. I switch every now and then. I just like to see something else, I guess. I just won’t use the pitcher’s bat. I won’t go there.”

    In Fielder’s previous All-Star appearance, he used the bat of then-teammate Joe Dillon and went 0-for-1.”

    Full article here:
    http://milwaukee.bre...

  • ken | July 15, 2009 at 12:52 am |

    re: Joe Torre in a Cards helmet..maybe he was honoring his time as a memeber of the Cards (Playing: 69-74 Manager: 90-95)

    re: NHL teams wearing championships I know the 75 or 76 Flyers wore a cup patch during the Pre-season..not sure if they kept it on duing the season.

  • rpm | July 15, 2009 at 1:28 am |

    [quote comment=”339924″][quote comment=”339923″]jth~
    all grey…
    http://images.ola.co...

    http://i16.ebayimg.c...

    https://www.beckett....

    http://z.hubpages.co...

    http://snakevenom12....

    white jersey, but great pixture…
    http://www.nfl.com.m...
    So I guess it was a really light silver/gray, unlike the Raiders? Like I said, I couldn’t really tell from those pix. They looked white to me.

    I’ll take your word for it.[/quote]
    fo sho bro, a matte grey not a shinny silver.

  • Brian | July 15, 2009 at 1:29 am |

    Keyshawn Johnson is on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon wearing a green cap that says “State.” Assuming it’s not a fashion cap in the same vain as Bluto’s “COLLEGE” shirt from Animal House, would this be Michigan state? And if so, why is he wearing it when he went to USC?

  • keith katsoulis | July 15, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    On the Michael Owen comment a bout his number not matching in training….the on field number and training number don’t match for all players. Not sure what they do it like that…but thats the scoop.