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Who Doesn’t Love a Good Pie Chart?

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Back in the early 1990s, when I was working as a book editor, our company published a book called The Designer’s Guide to Charts and Diagrams, written by a guy named Nigel Holmes, who at the time was the “explanation graphics” editor for Time magazine. (He’s now an independent designer and consultant, with a nifty web site.) I was pretty fascinated by charts, so I was pissed off when the manuscript got assigned to one of the other production editors.

Nearly two decades later, I’m still fascinated by charts and diagrams. So I was excited when reader Ben Wideman recently pointed me toward the awkwardly named site Flip Flop Fly Ball, which presents a bunch of baseball-related info in diagrammatic form. Think of it as an interesting little cul de sac of athletics aesthetics. The topics range from the conventional (MLB field configurations, when each MLB team broke the color barrier) to the unusual (a projection of when the Yankees will run out of numbers, an analysis of World Baseball Classic rosters), but almost all of the charts are worth a look. The biggest surprise for me was this one, which shows the wide range of MLB stadium orientation. So much for the universality of “southpaw.”

The site is the work of a European gent named Craig Robinson, who appears to be particularly fascinated by the concept of distance. He’s charted the distance the Royals will travel this year, the distance of all the pitches in the 2006 MLB season, and the distance traveled by all the 2006 baserunners.

Robinson also appears to be a bit of a nut, and I mean that in the best way. Flip Flop Fly Ball shouldn’t be confused with his other web sites, which are called Flip Flop Flying, Flip Flop Flyin’, and the very simple and endearing CraigRobinson.com. In addition to all the charts, he also likes to create sports illustrations (many of which I quite like) and teeny-tiny pixilated portraits he calls minipops (whose charms elude me). I knew he was our kind of people when I saw that he collects and documents Tic Tac containers with Tic Tacs stuck on the inside. Now that’s a niche obsession!

I haven’t been in touch with Robinson yet, but I was surprised and pleased to see that he likes Uni Watch (see his blogroll on this page). Craig, get in touch once you see this post — I’d love to hear more about your work.

Meanwhile, just to bring things full-circle, here’s a baseball-related diagram by Nigel Holmes, the guy whose book I didn’t get to edit. Frankly, I like Robinson’s material better.

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Danger, Will Robinson!: In what is probably a classic case of burying the lede, this small, unassuming item informs us that Oregon will be unveiling new football uniforms later today. “They are believed to be motocross-inspired,” says reader Ben Jamin, which I guess means the offensive line will look like this. Anyway, the whole thing will be live-streamed at goducks.com, 1pm Oregon time. I’ll say this much for Nike and Oregon: Good for them for keeping this announcement under wraps until a day before the unveiling.

New Sponsor Shout-Out: Everyone knows Ali and Foreman fought in the Rumble in the Jungle back in 1974 in Zaire. What you might not know is that there was also a huge soul music festival that was promoted alongside the fight. A new documentary called Soul Power, set to open on July 10th, takes a look at this mix of music and sports (sort of a music-themed companion to When We Were Kings) and the movie’s official merch licensee is now offering T-shirts — check out their ad in the right-hand rail.

Raffle/Redemske Reminder: I’m currently raffling off four pairs of Wilco tickets and taking up a collection to help out former Uni Watch bench coach Bryan Redemske, who broke his back in a cycling accident last week. Full details on both of these projects here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Nice set of vintage Bengals drinking cups here. … Newcastle United has unveiled a new orange kit (with thanks to Ross Hazlett). … Alan Kreit along close-up pics of the old Shea’s home plate, pitching rubber, and third base, now situated in the new Shea’s parking lot. … And Jason Libes provided similar shots for all the old Veterans Stadium landmarks in Philly. … Those controversial new swimsuits have been approved for competition use after all. … Remember Mark Penxa, who I interviewed last year? He’s done a bunch more gorgeous sports paintings, including portraits of Roy Halladay, Jacques Plante, Johnny U, Steve Yzerman, and Jean Béliveau, and Deacon Jones. Further info here (big thanks to Sam McCullough). … There’s a Kellen Winslow jersey prominently featured in this video clip, but you might find it being overshadowed by something else (with thanks to Brendon Yarian). … Check this out: When switch-hitter Delwyn Young was with the Dodgers last year, he wore No. 3 and his left-handed batting helmet had a backwards 3 decal, presumably so he and the equipment staff could easily tell it from his right-handed helmet. Never seen that before (great catch by Rick Subrizio). … Matt Duchene, who is expected to be selected at the top of the upcoming NHL draft, designed his high school team’s jersey. Details here (with thanks to Taylor Buckley). … LSU’s basball team keeps a lucky charm in the dugout (with thanks to David McGee). … Underbill update from Roberto Santiago, who reports that Giants pitcher Jonathan Sanchez has written quite a screed under the right side of his visor, plus a few additional lines under the left side. Can’t make out what any of it says, though. … Rough time for Ian Stewart (no, not that Ian Stewart) last night in Anaheim, as reported by Jeff Fields: “In the second inning, he ripped a huge hole in the seat of his pants scoring from second. In the ninth inning, a pitch pulled his jersey right out of his pants for a hit-by-pitch. He unbuckled at first base and adjusted/retucked. The Rockies announcers joked that he ‘almost pulled a Psycho, but not quite'” (a reference, of course, to Steve “Psycho” Lyons, who once famously pulled down his pants at second base).

 

298 comments to Who Doesn’t Love a Good Pie Chart?

  • Matty | June 23, 2009 at 8:07 am |

    I know you love to hate ’em, but watch for the new Oregon Ducks unis today at a 1:00 PM pacific time press conference.

  • pr9000 | June 23, 2009 at 8:18 am |

    Love the Flip Flop graphics … reminds me a lot of Edward Tuffe’s work, which is a must for all chart lovers (and fans of clean graphic design).

  • James Craven | June 23, 2009 at 8:20 am |

    Best comment of all from OregonLive.com on the Ducks “new” football uniforms:

    [quote]“Why don’t blah blah blah … Penn State … blah blah blah … not a fashion show …”[/quote]

    My type of person.

  • Ryan | June 23, 2009 at 8:24 am |

    I think Oregon will go with the wings like last years “lights out jerseys”

  • Cosmo | June 23, 2009 at 8:32 am |

    Actually doesn’t “southpaw” work even better after seeing that diagram? The majority of parks have the batter facing north (or northwest/northeast).

  • stegan | June 23, 2009 at 8:39 am |

    I think the new Newcastle kit is more banana yellow than orange. It’s even more confusing and ridiculous than their purple kit from last year.

  • BigMatt | June 23, 2009 at 8:40 am |

    Actually, Psycho pulled down his pants at first base.

  • Mark in Shiga | June 23, 2009 at 8:51 am |

    The Yankees number situation is actually much worse than Flip Flop Fly Ball suggests. He posits that the Yankees “will have a player wearing the number 100 in the year 2220”, but 2220 is the year when the Yankees are projected to have retired their 100th number, which means that all their players will be in triple digits by then.

    In fact you need a minimum of 40 numbers for the 40-man roster, and then 5-10 more for the manager and coaches. That’s about 50 numbers, not including non-roster spring training invitees, and the chart has the Yankees retiring their 50th number around 2090. Thirteen numbers have been taken off the table just since 1970; some people reading this may live to see that ugly day when there’s a triple-digit Yankee.

    (In Japan, where the minor league squad has jersey numbers that don’t intersect with the majors, the coaches are stuck wearing 70-99, and the staffers (like #118 Hirai here and developmental players) are already in triple-figure territory.)

    If there’s one thing that international soccer really gets right, it’s that the 23 men on the World Cup rosters wear 1-23, no exceptions, no retirements. Baseball should do this too — hand up the jerseys in the rafters, build monuments to your greats in the outfield, but let future players have the numbers. What better way to show your admiration for a past great than to wear the same number?

  • floormaster squeeze | June 23, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    I think you may be aware of this but there are information graphics people that hate the pie chart more than Paul hates misplaced punctuation. I will stay out of the fray except to say that pie charts are overused.

  • scott | June 23, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    [quote comment=”336299″]
    If there’s one thing that international soccer really gets right, it’s that the 23 men on the World Cup rosters wear 1-23, no exceptions, no retirements. Baseball should do this too — hand up the jerseys in the rafters, build monuments to your greats in the outfield, but let future players have the numbers. What better way to show your admiration for a past great than to wear the same number?[/quote]

    I’ve got an idea. How about if World Cup soccer got with the program and started retiring numbers, just like Major League Baseball does. That would be a far better way of honoring the great soccer players, in my opinion.

  • Mark in Shiga | June 23, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    Just caught this, but those flags hanging up on the banner at the top of Flip Flop Fly Ball seem to show the correct standings as of June 1. This was before Colorado got on their insane win streak, and before

    What an amazing amount of effort he’s putting in!

  • Mark in Shiga | June 23, 2009 at 9:11 am |

    Sorry, Scott, but we do expect our sports and their leagues to last well beyond our own lifetimes, don’t we? A form of “honor” that requires future generations of players to look like clowns does no honor at all to the team or the sport.

  • Traxel | June 23, 2009 at 9:13 am |

    Those paintings by Mark Penxa are way cool and Stevie Y is my favorite of the bunch. Great job Mark!

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 9:13 am |

    [quote]What better way to show your admiration for a past great than to wear the same number?[/quote]

    indeed

  • Spenceohio | June 23, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    Helfaer Field is built on the exact basepaths for old County Stadium, outside Miller Park.

    http://milwaukee.bre...

  • Mark in Shiga | June 23, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”336305″][quote]What better way to show your admiration for a past great than to wear the same number?[/quote]

    indeed[/quote]

    See, now A-Rod has the solution. Just tear off one of those extraneous digits!

    If no one’s willing to do this, someday ugliness will be heaped upon ugliness.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 23, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”336301″][quote comment=”336299″]
    If there’s one thing that international soccer really gets right, it’s that the 23 men on the World Cup rosters wear 1-23, no exceptions, no retirements. Baseball should do this too — hand up the jerseys in the rafters, build monuments to your greats in the outfield, but let future players have the numbers. What better way to show your admiration for a past great than to wear the same number?[/quote]

    I’ve got an idea. How about if World Cup soccer got with the program and started retiring numbers, just like Major League Baseball does. That would be a far better way of honoring the great soccer players, in my opinion.[/quote]

    I kinda disagree. In Brazil, for example, it’s a great honor to wear #10, Pele’s number. It’s always given to the star of the team. I think it’s a great tradition.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    Argentina made a proposal to FIFA that it was going to retire the #10 for Diego Maradona.

    http://www.rediff.co...

    They used the #10 at the 2002 World Cup and will continue to use it in the future.

    Actually, the Asian Football Confederation has started to use uniform numbers that are matched to player names for their competitions. This is different than the 1-23 range because that way they can track an individual player’s fouls for disciplinary reasons easier.

    So after the 2006 World Cup, some of the Japanese players wore numbers in the 60s and 70s in qualifying matches for the 2007 Asian Cup.

    http://cache.daylife...

  • dwight | June 23, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    From the oregon ducks website:

    “My take on the new duds, as a 30-something male sports fan: Outstanding. Cool enough for the kids and classy enough for the traditionalists.”

    Color me skeptical.

  • Mike Engle | June 23, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”336307″]See, now A-Rod has the solution. Just tear off one of those extraneous digits![/quote]
    Been there, done that.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    Transformers 2 opening at midnight tonight/tomoorow.

    Oregon unveiling new unis today.

    Coincidence…methinks not

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    Ducks new unis inspired by motocross?

    Of course, because everyone know that motocross far outranks major college football in the pantheon of spectator sports, so naturally a program such as Oregon would aspire to such a look.

    That’s similar to the reasoning behind NFL teams longing to look like they play in the Arena league. It’s not good to look classy anymore. Junky is WAY cooler.

    Bumper stickers on the back of helmets coming soon, I’ll bet. Can’t wait for that. That’ll be SO perfect for all those who aspire to trailer park living. And they’re evidently the ones buying all this shit these days.

    Let’s all repeat the mantra: Tacky is good. Tacky is good. Tacky…

    —Ricko

  • CJ | June 23, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    When I first saw the banana Newcastle kit, I laughed at them. No wonder they got relegated. I believe over at footballshirtculture one of the comments involved “Bananas in Pajamas.” I love it.

    Also, the fact that numbers are fluid on national kits drives me insane. I now have wrongly numbered shirts for Podolski from Germany. My Germany kit collection suffers.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    The Hot Corner:

    http://thebsreport.f...

  • Gemnr | June 23, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    quote comment=\”336308\”][quote comment=\”336301\”][quote comment=\”336299\”]
    If there\’s one thing that international soccer really gets right, it\’s that the 23 men on the World Cup rosters wear 1-23, no exceptions, no retirements. Baseball should do this too — hand up the jerseys in the rafters, build monuments to your greats in the outfield, but let future players have the numbers. What better way to show your admiration for a past great than to wear the same number?[/quote]

    I\’ve got an idea. How about if World Cup soccer got with the program and started retiring numbers, just like Major League Baseball does. That would be a far better way of honoring the great soccer players, in my opinion.[/quote]

    I kinda disagree. In Brazil, for example, it\’s a great honor to wear #10, Pele\’s number. It\’s always given to the star of the team. I think it\’s a great tradition.[/quote]

    International basketball only allows 4-15. Not even megastars like Jordan (9), Bryant (10), and LeBron (6) are allowed to wear their club numbers.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”336314″]Ducks new unis inspired by motocross?

    Of course, because everyone know that motocross far outranks major college football in the pantheon of spectator sports, so naturally a program such as Oregon would aspire to such a look.

    That’s similar to the reasoning behind NFL teams longing to look like they play in the Arena league. It’s not good to look classy anymore. Junky is WAY cooler.

    Bumper stickers on the back of helmets coming soon, I’ll bet. Can’t wait for that. That’ll be SO perfect for all those who aspire to trailer park living. And they’re evidently the ones buying all this shit these days.

    Let’s all repeat the mantra: Tacky is good. Tacky is good. Tacky…

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Nothing rattles Ricko’s cage as much as the “Superhero” look of football unis.

    I have to admit that I LOVE the traditional looks of baseball uniforms, see post 24 today, but when it comes to football, I like the sleek, aerodynamic looks of today.

    I can do with out the cut-off sleeve stripes but overall I prefer today to yesterday.

    Except:

    Chris Hovan:
    http://www.sptimes.c...

    Greg Ellis=Atrocious:
    http://www.dallascow...

    Charles Woodson…Heisman winner, C’mon:
    http://upload.wikime...

    FIX YOUR CHINSTRAP!!!

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    Sneak Peek of Oregon’s new unis:

    http://assets.sbnati...

  • TomV | June 23, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    I love the idea of the markers for old home plate, pitchers mound, etc. I like the way Atlanta did it (see google earth or similar), like the way phillies used the granite, but the sloppy job the Mets did the concrete is awful. Com’on guys.

  • u2-horn | June 23, 2009 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”336302″]Just caught this, but those flags hanging up on the banner at the top of Flip Flop Fly Ball seem to show the correct standings as of June 1. This was before Colorado got on their insane win streak, and before

    What an amazing amount of effort he’s putting in![/quote]

    How about identifying the players playing at Wrigley?

    You’ve got the 1919 White Sox in the corn field in left, the Miller Park Sausages in right.

    1b-Will Clark
    2b-Jackie Robinson
    3b-George Brett
    ss-Robin Yount
    lf-Ted Williams
    cf-Willie Mays
    rf-Babe Ruth
    sp-Randy Johnson

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”336318″][quote comment=”336314″]Ducks new unis inspired by motocross?

    Of course, because everyone know that motocross far outranks major college football in the pantheon of spectator sports, so naturally a program such as Oregon would aspire to such a look.

    That’s similar to the reasoning behind NFL teams longing to look like they play in the Arena league. It’s not good to look classy anymore. Junky is WAY cooler.

    Bumper stickers on the back of helmets coming soon, I’ll bet. Can’t wait for that. That’ll be SO perfect for all those who aspire to trailer park living. And they’re evidently the ones buying all this shit these days.

    Let’s all repeat the mantra: Tacky is good. Tacky is good. Tacky…

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Nothing rattles Ricko’s cage as much as the “Superhero” look of football unis.

    I have to admit that I LOVE the traditional looks of baseball uniforms, see post 24 today, but when it comes to football, I like the sleek, aerodynamic looks of today.

    I can do with out the cut-off sleeve stripes but overall I prefer today to yesterday.

    Except:

    Chris Hovan:
    http://www.sptimes.c...

    Greg Ellis=Atrocious:
    http://www.dallascow...

    Charles Woodson…Heisman winner, C’mon:
    http://upload.wikime...

    FIX YOUR CHINSTRAP!!!

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Let’s flip it over. If a motocross rider came out dressed as Peyton Manning he’d be giggled off the course.

    Unless, of course, we think Jack Nicholson’s helmet in EASY RIDER looked good.

    —Ricko

  • JRJR | June 23, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”336293″]Love the Flip Flop graphics … reminds me a lot of Edward Tuffe’s work, which is a must for all chart lovers (and fans of clean graphic design).[/quote]

    I also immediately thought of Tufte. Has he done or researched anything sports related?

  • M.Princip | June 23, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”336319″]Sneak Peek of Oregon’s new unis:

    http://assets.sbnati...

    Superduck’s just not cool enough? So, they had to go Robo?

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    Hope Tiger wears cycling tights at the PGA here. And the leader at the start of every day’s play should wear a yellow jersey.

    That would be SO cool.

    Cuz, y’know, golf needs to identify better with the viewing audience.

    —Ricko

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    Actually Roboduck is dead.

    But here is the video of his birth

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Berto | June 23, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”336317″]quote comment=\”336308\”][quote comment=\”336301\”][quote comment=\”336299\”]
    If there\’s one thing that international soccer really gets right, it\’s that the 23 men on the World Cup rosters wear 1-23, no exceptions, no retirements. Baseball should do this too — hand up the jerseys in the rafters, build monuments to your greats in the outfield, but let future players have the numbers. What better way to show your admiration for a past great than to wear the same number?[/quote]

    I\’ve got an idea. How about if World Cup soccer got with the program and started retiring numbers, just like Major League Baseball does. That would be a far better way of honoring the great soccer players, in my opinion.[/quote]

    I kinda disagree. In Brazil, for example, it\’s a great honor to wear #10, Pele\’s number. It\’s always given to the star of the team. I think it\’s a great tradition.[/quote]

    International basketball only allows 4-15. Not even megastars like Jordan (9), Bryant (10), and LeBron (6) are allowed to wear their club numbers.[/quote]

    I’ve always liked how rugby does it. For the first 15 your number directly corresponds to your position. For the 7 reserves your number loosely corresponds to the positions you’re backing up (20 tends to be a scrum half etc.).

    Since many rugby players are fairly versatile it means you sometimes have to pay attention to the pregame to follow your favorite player so I can see how some fans wouldn’t like it. It’s great for refs though and it can help fans follow which positions are doing what on the field (when you see #15 with the ball you know what to expect).

    The thing I like about the rugby numbering system is that it emphasizes the team. You may be #14 today but you may not be #14 tomorrow. As a player it was a great motivator because you really wanted one of those first 15 numbers on game day. I know any time I saw someone on the field with “my” number it lit a fire under me to get it back.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 23, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”336300″]I think you may be aware of this but there are information graphics people that hate the pie chart more than Paul hates misplaced punctuation. I will stay out of the fray except to say that pie charts are overused.[/quote]

    lol. why does there always have to be ONE everyday???

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    Oh, yeah, crossover from football to motorcycling definitely is a good look.

    http://www.luminousn...

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”336321″][quote comment=”336302″]Just caught this, but those flags hanging up on the banner at the top of Flip Flop Fly Ball seem to show the correct standings as of June 1. This was before Colorado got on their insane win streak, and before

    What an amazing amount of effort he’s putting in![/quote]

    How about identifying the players playing at Wrigley?

    You’ve got the 1919 White Sox in the corn field in left, the Miller Park Sausages in right.

    1b-Will Clark
    2b-Jackie Robinson
    3b-George Brett
    ss-Robin Yount
    lf-Ted Williams
    cf-Willie Mays
    rf-Babe Ruth
    sp-Randy Johnson[/quote]

    Nice idea, U2!

    A few questions”

    1. Is the scoreboard listing Flip Flop Fly Ball from Dodgers Stadium?

    2. Is the Bull from Durham?

    3. Schaefer Beer ad from Milwaukee?

    4. Are the outfield distances significant?

    5. The scoreboard lists RJ picthing for the Knicks?

  • Ry Co 40 | June 23, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    get well soon Redemske! hope everything works out for ya!!!

  • steve | June 23, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    FIX YOUR CHINSTRAP!!!

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Even worse, BUCKLE YOUR BELT

  • scott | June 23, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”336325″]Hope Tiger wears cycling tights at the PGA here. And the leader at the start of every day’s play should wear a yellow jersey.

    That would be SO cool.

    Cuz, y’know, golf needs to identify better with the viewing audience.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Thanks for the laugh, Ricko!

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”336328″][quote comment=”336300″]I think you may be aware of this but there are information graphics people that hate the pie chart more than Paul hates misplaced punctuation. I will stay out of the fray except to say that pie charts are overused.[/quote]

    lol. why does there always have to be ONE everyday???[/quote]

    Ryan,

    Pittsburgh question for ye:

    This weekend I watched a pretty good Movie, Zack and Miri make a Porno. In the beginning, Elizabeth Banks wakes up wearing only a throwback blue Pens sweater, Rob Ullmann anyone?

    Ae the end, Seth Rogen is working at Mellon Arena dressing up as a Broad Street Bully in a carnival type booth where two Pens clad hooligans get to shoot him with a paintball gun.

    Is there really such a place?

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote]5. The scoreboard lists RJ picthing for the Knicks?[/quote]

    probably roy hobbs team vs. the mudville 9

  • Robert Eden (formerly Robert in Dallas) | June 23, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    “Pitcher’s plate” instead of “pitching rubber” in the Mets’ parking lot? Huh?

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”336335″][quote]5. The scoreboard lists RJ picthing for the Knicks?[/quote]

    probably roy hobbs team vs. the mudville 9[/quote]

    Good Call, Phil.

    This guy is very clever.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 23, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”336334″][quote comment=”336328″][quote comment=”336300″]I think you may be aware of this but there are information graphics people that hate the pie chart more than Paul hates misplaced punctuation. I will stay out of the fray except to say that pie charts are overused.[/quote]

    lol. why does there always have to be ONE everyday???[/quote]

    Ryan,

    Pittsburgh question for ye:

    This weekend I watched a pretty good Movie, Zack and Miri make a Porno. In the beginning, Elizabeth Banks wakes up wearing only a throwback blue Pens sweater, Rob Ullmann anyone?

    Ae the end, Seth Rogen is working at Mellon Arena dressing up as a Broad Street Bully in a carnival type booth where two Pens clad hooligans get to shoot him with a paintball gun.

    Is there really such a place?[/quote]

    nah, there is no such booth. sorry powers!

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”336337″][quote comment=”336335″][quote]5. The scoreboard lists RJ picthing for the Knicks?[/quote]

    probably roy hobbs team vs. the mudville 9[/quote]

    Good Call, Phil.

    This guy is very clever.[/quote]

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    Even the Puddles gear has gone crazy.

    http://s39.photobuck...

  • Ry Co 40 | June 23, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”336337″][quote comment=”336335″][quote]5. The scoreboard lists RJ picthing for the Knicks?[/quote]

    probably roy hobbs team vs. the mudville 9[/quote]

    Good Call, Phil.

    This guy is very clever.[/quote]

    VERY clever!

    he’s been to a lot of parks too! did you check out his flikr pics???

    like… is it me, or is this just look amazing:

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Lwiedy | June 23, 2009 at 10:37 am |
  • u2-horn | June 23, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”336339″]

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left[/quote]

    D’oh!

  • Giancarlo | June 23, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”336322″]
    Unless, of course, we think Jack Nicholson’s helmet in EASY RIDER looked good.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    This got me wondering… can anyone identify what helmet Jack was wearing? (And why haven’t we seen a football version of Peter Fonda’s helmet?)
    http://www.jahsonic....

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    Another look at Nicholson’s lid.

    http://www.brightlig...

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”336339″]…Nike and Oregon: Good for them for keeping this announcement under wraps until a day before the unveiling.[/quote]
    Even bigger kudos if they would re-wrap it and bury it after the unveiling.

    I haven’t seen it yet, but given Oregon’s track record (no pun intended) I’m confident it will be fugly.

  • Brendan Gatens | June 23, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    While you’re on the subject of charts and diagrams:

    http://www.good.is/p...

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”336343″][quote comment=”336339″]

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left[/quote]

    D’oh![/quote]

    Hey ladies in the place I’m callin’ out to ya
    There never was a city kid truer and bluer
    There’s more to me than you’ll ever know
    And I’ve got more hits than Sadaharu Oh

    I got mad hits…like I was Rod Carew

  • Bernard | June 23, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”336344″][quote comment=”336322″]
    Unless, of course, we think Jack Nicholson’s helmet in EASY RIDER looked good.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    This got me wondering… can anyone identify what helmet Jack was wearing? (And why haven’t we seen a football version of Peter Fonda’s helmet?)
    http://www.jahsonic....

    Detroit Lions?

    I kid…

  • Tom | June 23, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    On the “Flip-Flop” site. Isn’t the Major League Ballparks chart wrong?

    Wrigley Field is listed as “Pure”, but the field is named for Wrigley Gum correct? Wouldnt this make their name the definition of dirty as they started the corporate naming rights fiasco 100 years ago?

  • Juggernaut | June 23, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    Wow…I am in awe of the greatness of the Flip Flop family of sites here. Wow. You guys never cease to keep me entertained.

  • Perry | June 23, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”336336″]”Pitcher’s plate” instead of “pitching rubber” in the Mets’ parking lot? Huh?[/quote]

    That’s not too uncommon. It might even be called “pitcher’s plate” in the rule book, I’m not certain. Even if it’s not used there, I’ve seen it a lot.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”336348″][quote comment=”336343″][quote comment=”336339″]

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left[/quote]

    D’oh![/quote]

    Hey ladies in the place I’m callin’ out to ya
    There never was a city kid truer and bluer
    There’s more to me than you’ll ever know
    And I’ve got more hits than Sadaharu Oh

    I got mad hits…like I was Rod Carew[/quote]

    http://www.rhapsody....

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”336350″]On the “Flip-Flop” site. Isn’t the Major League Ballparks chart wrong?

    Wrigley Field is listed as “Pure”, but the field is named for Wrigley Gum correct? Wouldnt this make their name the definition of dirty as they started the corporate naming rights fiasco 100 years ago?[/quote]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.
    Just as Gussie Busch happened to own beer.
    I suspect that’s the distinction they’re making.

    (I know, I know, they MADE gum and beer, but I just thought it sounded nice and dumb the way I said it.)

    —Ricko

  • DJ | June 23, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    a reference, of course, to Steve “Psycho” Lyons, who once famously pulled down his pants at second base).

    No, he did it at first base. He slid head-first into first base in an attempt to beat the throw (and failed, IIRC). He then dropped trou to get the dirt out of inside his jersey and pants, without thinking he was doing it in public. Not really scandalous, as he was wearing compression shorts, but it was now baseball legend.

  • Perry | June 23, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    Last night on the Cardinals’ telecast of the Cards-Mets game, at one point the camera zeroed in on the Citi Field sleeve patch of one of the Mets. Al Hrabosky’s comment: “They spent all the money on the stadium, none on the patch.”

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:02 am |

    Interesting trivia on the color line bar graph:

    Giants bring up two players on the same day in 1949. Injury?

    Athletics had John Kennedy in 1957? JFK was fairly famous by then I imagine.

    Three of the earliest teams brought people up mid-season; but then it seems that most teams broke camp or brougth people up in September until you get to the final two teams (Tigers and Red Sox) who were also mid-season callups.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”336348″][quote comment=”336343″][quote comment=”336339″]

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left[/quote]

    D’oh![/quote]

    Hey ladies in the place I’m callin’ out to ya
    There never was a city kid truer and bluer
    There’s more to me than you’ll ever know
    And I’ve got more hits than Sadaharu Oh

    I got mad hits…like I was Rod Carew[/quote]

    A true UW crossover…sports, Beasties and attention to detail:

    http://mic-to-mic.bl...

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”336355″]He then dropped trou to get the dirt out of inside his jersey and pants, without thinking he was doing it in public. Not really scandalous, as he was wearing compression shorts, but it was now baseball legend.[/quote]
    Agree, he didn’t “drop his pants” to moon someone or anything like that. Strictly a blockhead move on his part, with no dirty or profane intent.

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”336357″]Interesting trivia on the color line bar graph:

    Giants bring up two players on the same day in 1949. Injury?

    Athletics had John Kennedy in 1957? JFK was fairly famous by then I imagine.

    Three of the earliest teams brought people up mid-season; but then it seems that most teams broke camp or brougth people up in September until you get to the final two teams (Tigers and Red Sox) who were also mid-season callups.[/quote]

    Given the times, I imagine mid-season and September call-ups were a little more “under the radar”.

    —Ricko

  • bill | June 23, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    —Ricko[/quote]
    This got me wondering… can anyone identify what helmet Jack was wearing? (And why haven’t we seen a football version of Peter Fonda’s helmet?)
    http://www.jahsonic....

    Detroit Lions?

    I kid…[/quote]

    Army?

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.

  • al | June 23, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=\”336296\”]Actually doesn\’t \”southpaw\” work even better after seeing that diagram? The majority of parks have the batter facing north (or northwest/northeast).[/quote]

    southpaw is a reference to the direction the pitcher faces …

  • Mike Engle | June 23, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”336356″]Last night on the Cardinals’ telecast of the Cards-Mets game, at one point the camera zeroed in on the Citi Field sleeve patch of one of the Mets. Al Hrabosky’s comment: “They spent all the money on the stadium, none on the patch.”[/quote]
    One honorary membership card and a Gets It(TM) status for The Mad Hungarian!

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”336361″]—Ricko[/quote]
    This got me wondering… can anyone identify what helmet Jack was wearing? (And why haven’t we seen a football version of Peter Fonda’s helmet?)
    http://www.jahsonic....

    Detroit Lions?

    I kid…[/quote]

    Army?[/quote]

    I imagine it’s just a helmet the costumer found somewhere in a prop room. Could be from an earlier film, could just be a high school or college helmet that ended up part of a rummage sale. EASY RIDER was extremely low budget. Possibly the helmet belonged to someone working on the film, or they found it in a thrift store.

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”336360″]
    Given the times, I imagine mid-season and September call-ups were a little more “under the radar”.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I’ll go along with you on the September callups, which only begs the question as to why more teams didn’t do exactly that (especially the final two teams who were probably under a microscope by then?)

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”336358″][quote comment=”336348″][quote comment=”336343″][quote comment=”336339″]

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left[/quote]

    D’oh![/quote]

    Hey ladies in the place I’m callin’ out to ya
    There never was a city kid truer and bluer
    There’s more to me than you’ll ever know
    And I’ve got more hits than Sadaharu Oh

    I got mad hits…like I was Rod Carew[/quote]

    A true UW crossover…sports, Beasties and attention to detail:

    http://mic-to-mic.bl...

    ****************NSFW************************
    For those of you not in the know:

    1.32 into it:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Giancarlo | June 23, 2009 at 11:15 am |

    From the Flip Flop site: Boogie Wonderland Park = best ballfield name ever

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”336365″]
    I imagine it’s just a helmet the costumer found somewhere in a prop room. Could be from an earlier film, could just be a high school or college helmet that ended up part of a rummage sale. EASY RIDER was extremely low budget. Possibly the helmet belonged to someone working on the film, or they found it in a thrift store.

    —Ricko[/quote]I’ll throw in UCLA, strictly because of their proximity to the film industry.

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”336362″][quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.[/quote]

    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”336366″][quote comment=”336360″]
    Given the times, I imagine mid-season and September call-ups were a little more “under the radar”.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    I’ll go along with you on the September callups, which only begs the question as to why more teams didn’t do exactly that (especially the final two teams who were probably under a microscope by then?)[/quote]

    You’re asking for an explanation of MLB’s PR sense, or lack thereof?

    MIght as well ask why women say, “Hand me that” and point to nine items on the counter, expecting us to know which “that” they mean.

    LOL

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”336370″]My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.[/quote]

    Yeah, I know you’re on top of the reasoning: I mostly wanted to work in the “and Ricko was right there, hammer in hand…” comment. :-)))

    As I live in Chicago, I’ll agree with you on Trump naming things because of his ego but it’s not just in his home town.

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”336371″]MIght as well ask why women say, “Hand me that” and point to nine items on the counter, expecting us to know which “that” they mean.[/quote]
    If you don’t know why I’m mad, I’m not going to tell you.

    I’m not mad, I’m (perturbed, miffed, hurt…..). There’s a difference.

  • Giancarlo | June 23, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    imdb says that Nicholson’s helmet was previously used in the movie HEAD, that wacked-out movie with the Monkees. Question is, who wore it? Ray Nitschke was in HEAD – was it him?

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”336373″][quote comment=”336371″]MIght as well ask why women say, “Hand me that” and point to nine items on the counter, expecting us to know which “that” they mean.[/quote]
    If you don’t know why I’m mad, I’m not going to tell you.

    I’m not mad, I’m (perturbed, miffed, hurt…..). There’s a difference.[/quote]

    “Honey, I’m gonna go see Transformers tonight, Ok?

    Fine.

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    Ok, so harkening back to a few days ago, I’ve been working on a Sabermetric idea for accurately judging a defenceman’s production compared to the amount of time he’s on the ice. Basically, it works that if a d-man is on the ice, he’s on for both goals for and goals against, and the number of shifts he plays will determine his effectiveness overall while on the ice as an offensive player.

    I’ll stop you at this point to say that if you don’t care, please skip the rest of this comment.

    While everyone can tell how great a puck-moving defenceman is by points, it’s much harder to see a d-man’s overall value in terms of playing both sides of the puck. And the numbers are surprising when calculated using this formula.

    Now the value is simply a value. It does not tell how many points a player will score or how many goals he is responsible for or against. It is simply a scoring system to determine who plays well on both sides of the puck.

    I’m still doing some testing on the calculations, but the Norris Trophy candidates were calculated with the following scores:

    Mike Green = 3.982
    Zdeno Chara = 3.772
    Niklas Lidstrom = 3.763

    Of course, Chara won, but these three are the highest-ranked defencemen I have calculated thus far, proving that their overall effectiveness can be calculated.

    Brendan Witt, largely thought to be the worst defenceman this past season, actually ended up with a negative value at -0.759.

    And free agent Rob Scuderi, who will most likely receive a substantial raise, came in with a 1.878 – higher than Dion Phaneuf (1.254), John-Michael Liles (0.603), and Jay Bouwmeester (1.345). All of those players finished higher in the scoring standings, and all three are being paid far higher than Scuderi.

  • Kek | June 23, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”336367″][quote comment=”336358″][quote comment=”336348″][quote comment=”336343″][quote comment=”336339″]

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left[/quote]

    D’oh![/quote]

    Hey ladies in the place I’m callin’ out to ya
    There never was a city kid truer and bluer
    There’s more to me than you’ll ever know
    And I’ve got more hits than Sadaharu Oh

    I got mad hits…like I was Rod Carew[/quote]

    A true UW crossover…sports, Beasties and attention to detail:

    http://mic-to-mic.bl...

    ****************NSFW************************
    For those of you not in the know:

    1.32 into it:

    http://www.youtube.c...
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”336376″]I’m still doing some testing on the calculations, but the Norris Trophy candidates were calculated with the following scores:

    Mike Green = 3.982
    Zdeno Chara = 3.772
    Niklas Lidstrom = 3.763

    Of course, Chara won, but these three are the highest-ranked defencemen I have calculated thus far, proving that their overall effectiveness can be calculated.

    Brendan Witt, largely thought to be the worst defenceman this past season, actually ended up with a negative value at -0.759.

    [/quote]
    Teebz, do you have a feeling that your rankings/scorings work on a game-by-game basis or do you think you need 30, 40, 50 games to make a judgement?

    I guess I’m wondering if say, ten games into a season (or for any one week stretch) if a guy goes into negative territory, is he in danger of being cut.

    Everyone knows intuitively when someone is a sieve, do you think your scoring can predict it?

  • Sean | June 23, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    I found a legend to all of neat features that is in the banner part of the Flip Flop Fly Ball website.

    LEGEND

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 11:39 am |

    [quote]I’ll stop you at this point to say that if you don’t care, please skip the rest of this comment.[/quote]

    you had me at hello

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”336378″][quote comment=”336376″]I’m still doing some testing on the calculations, but the Norris Trophy candidates were calculated with the following scores:

    Mike Green = 3.982
    Zdeno Chara = 3.772
    Niklas Lidstrom = 3.763

    Of course, Chara won, but these three are the highest-ranked defencemen I have calculated thus far, proving that their overall effectiveness can be calculated.

    Brendan Witt, largely thought to be the worst defenceman this past season, actually ended up with a negative value at -0.759.

    [/quote]
    Teebz, do you have a feeling that your rankings/scorings work on a game-by-game basis or do you think you need 30, 40, 50 games to make a judgement?

    I guess I’m wondering if say, ten games into a season (or for any one week stretch) if a guy goes into negative territory, is he in danger of being cut.

    Everyone knows intuitively when someone is a sieve, do you think your scoring can predict it?[/quote]

    It’s based on points, plus-minus, team goals-for, shifts-per-game, and team goals-against.

    A defenceman’s job is to stop the opposition from scoring. It doesn’t matter who shoots the puck in terms of who is covering whom, a d-man’s job is to prevent the other team from scoring.

    I took (total points + plus/minus) x team goals-for DIVIDED BY shifts-per-game x team goals-against.

    Offence over defence to tell you the value of the player. And obviously with a short season, the values would skew, but I’m basing on anyone who played a minimum of half the season (41 games).

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”336380″][quote]I’ll stop you at this point to say that if you don’t care, please skip the rest of this comment.[/quote]

    you had me at hello[/quote]

    I thought they based Good Will Hunting on your life, Phil. If anyone would appreciate the theorem, I thought it would be you. ;o) LOL

  • Paul Lukas | June 23, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”336370″][quote comment=”336362″][quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.[/quote]

    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….

  • Bourbon Soaked Idiot | June 23, 2009 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”336314″]Ducks new unis inspired by motocross?

    Of course, because everyone know that motocross far outranks major college football in the pantheon of spectator sports, so naturally a program such as Oregon would aspire to such a look.

    That’s similar to the reasoning behind NFL teams longing to look like they play in the Arena league. It’s not good to look classy anymore. Junky is WAY cooler.

    Bumper stickers on the back of helmets coming soon, I’ll bet. Can’t wait for that. That’ll be SO perfect for all those who aspire to trailer park living. And they’re evidently the ones buying all this shit these days.

    Let’s all repeat the mantra: Tacky is good. Tacky is good. Tacky…

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Maybe we could wait until the uniforms are actually unveiled before we trash them.

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”336309″]Argentina made a proposal to FIFA that it was going to retire the #10 for Diego Maradona.

    http://www.rediff.co...

    They used the #10 at the 2002 World Cup and will continue to use it in the future.[/quote]

    Are they going to retire it for the volleyball team as well, after that little handball stunt he pulled in the World Cup? If the mighty Brazil doesn’t retire Pele’s #10, nobody else should.

    As for American sports, I like retired numbers, but I also like the idea of doing it the soccer way. Syracuse used to have the number 44 reserved for special players…do they still do that? Maybe instead of retiring certain numbers, make them available only to players who “earn” them. Have the team vote on whether or not a player deserves a special number.

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”336381″]
    Offence over defence to tell you the value of the player. And obviously with a short season, the values would skew, but I’m basing on anyone who played a minimum of half the season (41 games).[/quote]

    And I should have added that this formula doesn’t discriminate between offensively-gifted defencemen and defensively-minded defencemen. Duncan Keith, who finished 20th in defencemen scoring this season, scores a 3.292 for his work on the defensive end. After all, he led all defencemen in plus/minus.

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”336383″] Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….[/quote]
    Somewhere in there, after Sportsman’s Park went to Busch Stadium but before the advent of Coors Field things went from ego to advertising IMHO.

    I guess you could work TV into the equation also.

  • Martin Hick | June 23, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    Love the Flip Flop sites, Robinson. Is your kitty named after Ghostface Killah (AKA Ironman, AKA Tony Starks)?

    Thanks for the bringing this guy to my attention, Paul.

  • Bourbon Soaked Idiot | June 23, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”336383″][quote comment=”336370″][quote comment=”336362″][quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.[/quote]

    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….[/quote]

    So in theory, if the Wilpons had sold the Mets to Citigroup, Citifield would be acceptable?

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”336386″]
    And I should have added that this formula doesn’t discriminate between offensively-gifted defencemen and defensively-minded defencemen. Duncan Keith, who finished 20th in defencemen scoring this season, scores a 3.292 for his work on the defensive end. After all, he led all defencemen in plus/minus.[/quote]Right, I assumed your goal was to try and measure the defense side of the ice; it seems as if many measures of offensive efficiency would allow you to rank any player with a good level of accuracy.

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”336384″][quote comment=”336314″]Ducks new unis inspired by motocross?

    Of course, because everyone know that motocross far outranks major college football in the pantheon of spectator sports, so naturally a program such as Oregon would aspire to such a look.

    That’s similar to the reasoning behind NFL teams longing to look like they play in the Arena league. It’s not good to look classy anymore. Junky is WAY cooler.

    Bumper stickers on the back of helmets coming soon, I’ll bet. Can’t wait for that. That’ll be SO perfect for all those who aspire to trailer park living. And they’re evidently the ones buying all this shit these days.

    Let’s all repeat the mantra: Tacky is good. Tacky is good. Tacky…

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Maybe we could wait until the uniforms are actually unveiled before we trash them.[/quote]

    Didn’t trash the unis. Not once. Can’t. Haven’t seen ’em. Trashed the notion of “inspired by motocross.” Thought it might be better if designers looked to, oh, I dunno, football, maybe, for inspiration.

    Have no idea what unis’ll look like. Might be good, never can tell. Just thought the rumored “inspiration” was misguided.

    Football’s failing so badly it needs to look to other sports and video games for direction? Fans are so brain dead they can’t separate reality from Halo3?

    —Ricko

  • mike 2 | June 23, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”336381″][quote comment=”336378″][quote comment=”336376″]I’m still doing some testing on the calculations, but the Norris Trophy candidates were calculated with the following scores:

    Mike Green = 3.982
    Zdeno Chara = 3.772
    Niklas Lidstrom = 3.763

    Of course, Chara won, but these three are the highest-ranked defencemen I have calculated thus far, proving that their overall effectiveness can be calculated.

    Brendan Witt, largely thought to be the worst defenceman this past season, actually ended up with a negative value at -0.759.

    [/quote]
    Teebz, do you have a feeling that your rankings/scorings work on a game-by-game basis or do you think you need 30, 40, 50 games to make a judgement?

    I guess I’m wondering if say, ten games into a season (or for any one week stretch) if a guy goes into negative territory, is he in danger of being cut.

    Everyone knows intuitively when someone is a sieve, do you think your scoring can predict it?[/quote]

    It’s based on points, plus-minus, team goals-for, shifts-per-game, and team goals-against.

    A defenceman’s job is to stop the opposition from scoring. It doesn’t matter who shoots the puck in terms of who is covering whom, a d-man’s job is to prevent the other team from scoring.

    I took (total points + plus/minus) x team goals-for DIVIDED BY shifts-per-game x team goals-against.

    Offence over defence to tell you the value of the player. And obviously with a short season, the values would skew, but I’m basing on anyone who played a minimum of half the season (41 games).[/quote]

    I love the idea of it – hockey needs more sabermetric style analysis and less gut feel about which guys have heart and carry the team on their backs.

    One question – you say that the job of the defenceman is to stop the opposition from scoring, but do you account for the other things a defenceman is asked to do? Such as play the point on the power play?

    Put it another way, Mike Komisarek and Dion Phaneuf are both defenceman, but play the game different ways by design – can you account for that?

  • u2-horn | June 23, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”336389″][quote comment=”336383″][quote comment=”336370″][quote comment=”336362″][quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.[/quote]

    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….[/quote]

    So in theory, if the Wilpons had sold the Mets to Citigroup, Citifield would be acceptable?[/quote]

    Only if Mr. Citigroup himself signed the check. ;)

  • Joey Guns | June 23, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    Interesting article from Darren Rovell on Sosa’s jersey….

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

  • Jeff | June 23, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”336389″][quote comment=”336383″][quote comment=”336370″][quote comment=”336362″][quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.[/quote]

    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….[/quote]

    So in theory, if the Wilpons had sold the Mets to Citigroup, Citifield would be acceptable?[/quote]

    Oh now you’re just making trouble.

    But seriously, I’ve always thought the anti-corporate name crowd was making a little too much out of this. If selling the naming rights helps finance construction costs and reduces the burden on the taxpayer, then I really don’t care what you name it. In the end, it really doesn’t change the events that happen on the field, or the memories that are made there (note: uniforms DO effect those things. Don’t ask me the science behind it, but its true).

    But really, I DO care. Some corporate names just flat out suck, some are just there. Chase Field, Great American Ballpark–they just kind of work.

    Progressive Field and U.S. Cellular Field sound like hell.

  • Paul Lukas | June 23, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”336389″][quote comment=”336383″][quote comment=”336370″][quote comment=”336362″][quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.[/quote]

    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….[/quote]

    So in theory, if the Wilpons had sold the Mets to Citigroup, Citifield would be acceptable?[/quote]

    More so, yeah. But Citigroup is probably the only organization that could run the team worse than the Wilpons have.

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”336392″]
    Put it another way, Mike Komisarek and Dion Phaneuf are both defenceman, but play the game different ways by design – can you account for that?[/quote]

    Yes and no. I’ve always viewed Komisarek as a solid defenceman, but not someone who deserves Phaneuf-esque money.

    Phaneuf = 1.254
    Komisarek = 0.419

    Now, I realize that Phaneuf gets more powerplay time than Komisarek. But if Komisarek is relied upon as a defensive defenceman, his plus/minus should be considerably better than Phaneuf’s, right?

    Where Phaneuf makes up the difference and more is in points. Komisarek has 11 points and was even for the season, whereas Phaneuf had 47 points and was -11. Phaneuf contributes more offensively, so he has the higher score despite being a a bigger defensive liability.

    On the flip side of this, Rob Scuderi only had 16 points this season, but he turned in a spectacular defensive effort with a +23. That’s why his value of 1.878 is much higher than both Komisarek and Phaneuf despite Phaneuf outscoring him nearly 3-to-1.

  • Jeff | June 23, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”336383″][quote comment=”336370″][quote comment=”336362″][quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.[/quote]

    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….[/quote]

    Wait, Coors doesn’t (didn’t) own the team. That was a purely marketing deal… Fits very well, but marketing nonetheless.

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    Turner Field, Turner Field…
    Now, what IS the name of his broadcasting company again?

    Never can remember that.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 23, 2009 at 12:14 pm |

    Re: the purported inspiration for the new Oregon football unis

    Didn’t Kevin Windham already cross the Rubicon of football and motocross?

    http://www.vitalmx.c...

    http://www.motocross...

    I’ve sorta done something similar with my motorcycle helmet, which is inspired by my favorite football team:

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Matt B | June 23, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    The Mall of America in Bloomington, MN is on the site of the old Metropolitan Stadium where the wins played. Here’s their home plate:
    http://en.wikipedia....

  • mtjaws | June 23, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    Loved the Flip Flop Flyball site and pictures. Very entertaining and full of great details. I think I read thru them all before even finishing the main entry above.

  • interlockingtc | June 23, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    Oh my God, “Soul Power!”

    This is the first I’ve heard of it. I can’t wait.

    Watch the trailer on the website…this is going to be good.

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”336402″]The Mall of America in Bloomington, MN is on the site of the old Metropolitan Stadium where the wins played. Here’s their home plate:
    http://en.wikipedia....

    Saw the Millers play there in ’56, saw the final game in the place (Chiefs-Vikings) in ’81.
    Also saw first game ever in St. Paul Civic Center (a Saints’ WHA game) and the final event (my kids’ high school won the state baseketball championship) there.

    Good lord. I think I’ll be real quiet and listen to my arteries harden.

    —Ricko

  • mike 2 | June 23, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    On a completely unrelated note, the Hockey Hall of Fame announces its inductees today (four maximum):

    Locks – Yzerman, Hull, Leetch
    Likely – Robitaille
    Unlikely – Andreychuk, Gilmour, Mogilny

  • mmwatkin | June 23, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    I wonder how many people thought that the Pontiac Silverdome was corporately sponsored?

  • chance michaels | June 23, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”336326″]Actually Roboduck is dead.

    But here is the video of his birth

    http://www.youtube.c...

    PS. Roboduck died on the way back to his home planet.

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”336408″][quote comment=”336326″]Actually Roboduck is dead.

    But here is the video of his birth

    http://www.youtube.c...

    PS. Roboduck died on the way back to his home planet.[/quote]

    Which was?

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”336407″]I wonder how many people thought that the Pontiac Silverdome was corporately sponsored?[/quote]

    Good one! And how many spelling-impaired people think Crisler Arena is corporately sponsored as well?

  • Bourbon Soaked Idiot | June 23, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”336397″][quote comment=”336389″][quote comment=”336383″][quote comment=”336370″][quote comment=”336362″][quote comment=”336354″]

    It’s named for the guy who built it.
    He just happened to own gum.

    —Ricko[/quote]Ricko, as you were out there helping to finish the park I’m sure you remember that Weehgman (sp) BUILT the park: the Wrigley family (perhaps PK) later BOUGHT it.

    ;-) Just kidding Ricko.[/quote]

    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….[/quote]

    So in theory, if the Wilpons had sold the Mets to Citigroup, Citifield would be acceptable?[/quote]

    More so, yeah. But Citigroup is probably the only organization that could run the team worse than the Wilpons have.[/quote]

    I’d take Citigroup of Jim Dolan and Cablevison any day.

  • floormaster squeeze | June 23, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    I see Jeff beat me to it but the naming rights were sold to Coors Brewing upon completion.

    Wouldn’t payment for the actually building be part of that “purity” equation? If the public pays for 78% of the construction shouldn’t the city or county get top billing? Or is it people object to “Extortion Field”?

  • Kek | June 23, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 12:41 pm |

    Ok, after looking at the top-10 in defencemen scoring, here is how they rank according to the formula:

    Name (Placement in scoring) = formula score

    M. Green (1st) = 3.982
    N. Lidstrom (3rd) = 3.763
    B. Rafalski (5th) = 3.304
    D. Boyle (6th) = 2.954
    B. Campbell (10th) = 2.803
    A. Markov (2nd) = 2.217
    S. Neidermayer (4th) = 1.920
    S. Souray (9th) = 1.890
    S. Weber (8th) = 1.809
    M. Streit (7th) = 1.621

    The teams that struggled defensively are skewed more towards the bottom of the top-10. As you can see, Mark Streit, who played for the Islanders this season, moves down from 7th to 10th in the top-10. In fact, he would slide way down the list if we expand it to the top-20.

    Again, factoring in the defensive side of the puck changes a player’s “effectiveness” for his team.

    I’m open to suggestions in looking at other ways to measure this. If any of the baseball people have suggestions, please feel free.

  • Berto | June 23, 2009 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”336400″]Turner Field, Turner Field…
    Now, what IS the name of his broadcasting company again?

    Never can remember that.[/quote]

    So the guy is SUPER vain and names everything after himself.

  • Kek | June 23, 2009 at 12:42 pm |

    Rob Dibble was on the Steve Czaben show this morning and their conversation somehow got to what team Dibbs rooted for growing up. Although he hails from Massachusetts, the Red Sox weren’t his team. He was actually a fan of the A’s.

    This puzzled Czabe so he asked how he ended up liking them and his answer was twofold:

    First, he thought the pitchers with all the interesting names (Blue Moon Odom, Vida Blue, Rollie Fingers and Catfish Hunter were referenced) were neat.

    The other part, you guessed it, the cool uniforms. Although the conversation really didn’t go anywhere from there, I thought today was a neat day for this conversation to take place since the new Oregon Ducks unis are being unveiled today.

    I recall past conversations about today’s youth being influenced by cool unis to either be a fan or actually go to a school. Interesting to see this isn’t exactly a new concept.

  • Berto | June 23, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”336409″][quote comment=”336408″][quote comment=”336326″]Actually Roboduck is dead.

    But here is the video of his birth

    http://www.youtube.c...

    PS. Roboduck died on the way back to his home planet.[/quote]

    Which was?[/quote]

    Poochiecron 6

  • Jeff P | June 23, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”336415″][quote comment=”336400″]Turner Field, Turner Field…
    Now, what IS the name of his broadcasting company again?

    Never can remember that.[/quote]

    So the guy is SUPER vain and names everything after himself.[/quote]
    Well, yeah. If he was trying to advertise something it would be CNN field or something like that. Nobody’s going to tune into a broadcasting corporation, most people don’t have a clue about what channel is owned by whom. Turner field would be a pretty poor choice if you were trying to advertise your product.

  • Bernard | June 23, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    That was kinda my point. For better or worse, and for whatever gain the individual might receive, it’s pretty tough to stop someone from naming something he owns after himself.

    (And also that whenever this subject comes up, Turner Field seems always to be among the last mentioned).

    —Ricko

  • chance michaels | June 23, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”336396″]But seriously, I’ve always thought the anti-corporate name crowd was making a little too much out of this. If selling the naming rights helps finance construction costs and reduces the burden on the taxpayer, then I really don’t care what you name it.[/quote]

    How often does that happen?

    Naming rights money often (most times?) counts against the team’s contribution to the stadium, not the public’s.

  • Martin Hick | June 23, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]

    Height of Mugsy Bogues, complexion of a hockey puck
    – Fife Dawg

  • Podunk Texas | June 23, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    Thanks for posting the Flip Flop Fly Ball link… I’ve spent years hoping that someone would do stuff like this—and wishing I had the time/drive to do it myself!!! :-D Happy. Am. Me.

  • Bernard | June 23, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]

    More Tribe:

    Always wanted this ’cause it surely beats a scramble/ I’m Jordan with the mic (huh) wanna gamble?

  • Kek | June 23, 2009 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]
    That’s pretty much the only hip-hop I like anymore. 90% of the market today is crap, Jay-Z is probably the only artist I really care for and he’s getting old. Reasonable Doubt and In My Lifetime Vol 1 & 2 will be considered old school before too long.

    Regarding TCQ, if someone could help me verify on youtube, in the video “1nce Again”, Phife Dawg sported a #37 Carnell Lake Steelers black jersey. I remember thinking this was so cool. Aside from Snoop wearing the Pens’ jersey and an occasional Pirates hat from Chuck D., Pittsburgh gear didn’t get much love back in the day.

  • Bernd | June 23, 2009 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”336315″]When I first saw the banana Newcastle kit, I laughed at them. No wonder they got relegated. I believe over at footballshirtculture one of the comments involved “Bananas in Pajamas.” I love it.

    Also, the fact that numbers are fluid on national kits drives me insane. I now have wrongly numbered shirts for Podolski from Germany. My Germany kit collection suffers.[/quote]

    Some of the star players are pretty self-evident though. Ballack is always 13, Podolski should always be 20, Kuranyi (when he played) was 22. Klose is 11, Metzelder is 21. Those are the numbers they wear in the league and those are the numbers they would get for big tournaments. Whether or not they wear something else here and there in qualifying is a moot point…a #9 Podolski jersey would strike people as stranger than wearing a #20 no matter what.

    Frankly, of course, I still think the old 1-11 numbering system was the best. That way, if you bought a #4 jersey vs. a #10, you were really making the statement that you liked tough defenders with a touch of crazy vs. playmakers. How much cooler is that than buying a jersey with a name of a player who might leave the club or retire from the national team in a few months?

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]

    My old-school hip hop began and ended with the Sugar Hill Gang’s “Rapper’s Delight”…and this song: http://sneakmove.com...

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote]Maybe we could wait until the uniforms are actually unveiled before we trash them.[/quote]

    can 4:00 pm (1:00 PDT) come soon enough?

  • dave r | June 23, 2009 at 1:17 pm |


    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….

    So in theory, if the Wilpons had sold the Mets to Citigroup, Citifield would be acceptable?

    If Citigroup owned the Mets, the stadium would be called “Obama Field”.

  • Dave | June 23, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    Sixers unveil new branding today…will it just be a logo and no uniform?

    http://www.nba.com/s...

  • LarryB | June 23, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”336361″]—Ricko[/quote]
    This got me wondering… can anyone identify what helmet Jack was wearing? (And why haven’t we seen a football version of Peter Fonda’s helmet?)
    http://www.jahsonic....

    Detroit Lions?

    I kid…[/quote]

    Army?[/quote]

    I always thought it was an Army helmet.

  • james | June 23, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    watching MLB channel with replay of 1979 all-star game and show Reggie Jackson taking team photo in Mariners uni

  • james | June 23, 2009 at 1:34 pm |

    It is in the first 1:20 seconds of start of show

  • SpellsGood | June 23, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    “The Mall of America in Bloomington, MN is on the site of the old Metropolitan Stadium where the wins played. Here’s their home plate:
    http://en.wikipedia….”

    If I’m not mistaken, high on the wall in the amusement park in the MOA, there is a stadium seat commemorating the landing spot of Killebrew’s longest Met Stadium HR.

  • Tick | June 23, 2009 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”336436″]”The Mall of America in Bloomington, MN is on the site of the old Metropolitan Stadium where the wins played. Here’s their home plate:
    http://en.wikipedia….”

    If I’m not mistaken, high on the wall in the amusement park in the MOA, there is a stadium seat commemorating the landing spot of Killebrew’s longest Met Stadium HR.[/quote]

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • leon | June 23, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    (And why haven’t we seen a football version of Peter Fonda’s helmet?)

    http://www.absolutvi...

    scroll down a bit

  • Jeff | June 23, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    Don’t big leaguers wear sliding pants any more?

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”336405″].
    Also saw first game ever in St. Paul Civic Center (a Saints’ WHA game)… [/quote]

    Remember when the clear plexiglass boards were going to be the wave of the future? NHL marketing managers get a headache just thinking about that concept today.

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”336396″]Chase Field, Great American Ballpark–they just kind of work.

    Progressive Field and U.S. Cellular Field sound like hell.[/quote]

    A) Chase Field: okay, did “Bank One Ballpark” work or sound like hell?

    B) Great American: until right now I didn’t know for sure that it was a corporation’s name. Still can’t tell you what they sell or provide.

    C) US Cellular: to me, it sounds dumb, not necessarily “like hell”. But then again I’ve heard it a zillion times.

  • Graf Zeppelin | June 23, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    Jesus H. WTF OMG ????

    Look at those markers in Philadelphia. Carved granite with inlaid bronze medallions. Set in stone. Classy.

    Now look at the Shea markers. Cement with a tacked-on brass plate. Residue all around, like someone marked it out with an x-acto knife and a paintbrush on the way back from his lunch break. LAME.

    Can this stupid, clueless, pathetic franchise get ANYTHING right?

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”336441″][quote comment=”336396″]Chase Field, Great American Ballpark–they just kind of work.

    Progressive Field and U.S. Cellular Field sound like hell.[/quote]

    A) Chase Field: okay, did “Bank One Ballpark” work or sound like hell?

    B) Great American: until right now I didn’t know for sure that it was a corporation’s name. Still can’t tell you what they sell or provide.

    C) US Cellular: to me, it sounds dumb, not necessarily “like hell”. But then again I’ve heard it a zillion times.[/quote]

    I think the reality is that some names don’t sound “store bought,” that’s all. They sound like names someone might have given a ballpark, and they roll off the tongue easily. Those just work better than “LandShark” or (my personal “favorite”) “Mazda Zoom Zoom Stadium” in Japan.

    Although that one IS kinda fun to say.

    —Ricko

  • Jeff P | June 23, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”336442″]Jesus H. WTF OMG ????

    Look at those markers in Philadelphia. Carved granite with inlaid bronze medallions. Set in stone. Classy.

    Now look at the Shea markers. Cement with a tacked-on brass plate. Residue all around, like someone marked it out with an x-acto knife and a paintbrush on the way back from his lunch break. LAME.

    Can this stupid, clueless, pathetic franchise get ANYTHING right?[/quote]
    I’m just kinda wondering what the yankees will do. I’m kinda hoping for a baseball diamond in the park that’s going to be there right where the field was, but I doubt that’ll happen because they’ll want to fit more different fields in that park.

    How about solid gold markers? They’d be too heavy to steal, so it might work.

  • GoDucks! | June 23, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    I have it on good authority that the new uniforms will be silver helmets with green O’s. Plus a silver jersey and possible new yellow and greens. Word is its the same feather look on the sleeves.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    Forbes Field home plate at the University of Pittsburgh.
    http://www.forbesfie...
    Choose #8 & #10.

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote]I’m just kinda wondering what the yankees will do…How about solid gold markers?[/quote]

    sounds about right

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 2:22 pm |

    Old Cominsky home plate
    http://upload.wikime...

    Google Maps
    http://maps.google.c...

  • War Damn Eagle | June 23, 2009 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”336441″][quote comment=”336396″]Chase Field, Great American Ballpark–they just kind of work.

    Progressive Field and U.S. Cellular Field sound like hell.[/quote]

    A) Chase Field: okay, did “Bank One Ballpark” work or sound like hell?

    B) Great American: until right now I didn’t know for sure that it was a corporation’s name. Still can’t tell you what they sell or provide.

    C) US Cellular: to me, it sounds dumb, not necessarily “like hell”. But then again I’ve heard it a zillion times.[/quote]

    Great American sells insurance, I think.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 2:23 pm |

    North edge of the Kingdome at Qwest Field in an arch.

    http://maps.google.c...

  • Jeff | June 23, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”336441″][quote comment=”336396″]Chase Field, Great American Ballpark–they just kind of work.

    Progressive Field and U.S. Cellular Field sound like hell.[/quote]

    A) Chase Field: okay, did “Bank One Ballpark” work or sound like hell?

    B) Great American: until right now I didn’t know for sure that it was a corporation’s name. Still can’t tell you what they sell or provide.

    C) US Cellular: to me, it sounds dumb, not necessarily “like hell”. But then again I’ve heard it a zillion times.[/quote]

    A) Bank One Ballpark sounded like hell. However, bonus points for “the Bob” nickname.

    B) Marketing dollars well spent there…

    C) Mostly “like hell” because, honestly, who uses the word “cellular” nowadays.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]

    You have NO IDEA how often I quote that!

  • War Damn Eagle | June 23, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”336445″]I have it on good authority that the new uniforms will be silver helmets with green O’s. Plus a silver jersey and possible new yellow and greens. Word is its the same feather look on the sleeves.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t a silver helmet be a ripoff of Wazzu’s look?

    And I will add that at least feathers have some connection to the fact they are the Ducks. Diamond-plating, not so much.

  • Berto | June 23, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]

    If that’s “old School” I must be prehistoric. “I got a color TV so I can see the Kicks play basketball”

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”336445″]I have it on good authority that the new uniforms will be silver helmets with green O’s. Plus a silver jersey and possible new yellow and greens. Word is its the same feather look on the sleeves.[/quote]

    so…kinda like this but inverted with silver then?

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”336443″]I think the reality is that some names don’t sound “store bought,” that’s all. They sound like names someone might have given a ballpark, and they roll off the tongue easily.[/quote]Exactly. For me, “Great American Ballpark”: well it’s a great place to watch a game that’s quintessentially American.

    Now the people who paid for naming rights in Cincy don’t like me, but…

    And I think I’d put Miller and Busch into the “sounds okay to me” catagory. Neither seems heavy handed. Progressive stinks, same with Comerica and whatever the Philly football stadium is. Staples Center: just plain stupid. Same thing with Toyota Center (or whatever it is) in Houston.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”336446″]Forbes Field home plate at the University of Pittsburgh.
    http://www.forbesfie...
    Choose #8 & #10.[/quote]

    Pitt-Tokyo Campus?

  • GoDucks! | June 23, 2009 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”336455″][quote comment=”336445″]I have it on good authority that the new uniforms will be silver helmets with green O’s. Plus a silver jersey and possible new yellow and greens. Word is its the same feather look on the sleeves.[/quote]

    so…kinda like this but inverted with silver then?[/quote]

    yes. supposedly, very similar.

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”336451″]…who uses the word “cellular” nowadays.[/quote]
    Nobody in Chicago uses “cellular” when they’re talking about where the Sox play, I can assure you of that. :-)

    It’s either Comiskey or “the Cell”.

  • Mike Engle | June 23, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”336428″]Turner Field, Turner Field…
    Now, what IS the name of his broadcasting company again?
    Never can remember that.
    So the guy is SUPER vain and names everything after himself.

    I love the moment in “Family Guy,” which did some serial Ted Turner mocking for a while, where they have Turner announcing that he’s colorized the moon.
    [/quote]
    That’s nothing compared to Ted at the poker game. Ted Turner bet CNN on a hand, and Peter immediately called (and won) because Ted blinked twice. Apparently, Ted Turner blinked twice when he said he’d be with Jane Fonda forever.
    LOL, now back to uniforms.

  • Ricko | June 23, 2009 at 2:32 pm |

    Oregon/Nike
    Start with forest and yellow.
    Add black.
    Now add silver?
    Must have been inspired by something Elmer Fudd said,
    “Whoooooaaa…I wuv my Duck Waders.”

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 2:35 pm |

    Actually #7, I thought it was #8. A Japanese from of mine studied there and told me that he walked by home plate all the time because that is where the business school is located.

  • Mark in Shiga | June 23, 2009 at 2:35 pm |

    Jeremy, I remember that Japan Football Association numbering problem from a few years ago. Wasn’t there some kind of snafu when submitting the rosters, so that 1-30 couldn’t be reassigned to the players that they actually wanted on the team, and so the people who ended up playing got stuck with those high numbers?

    I like the numbering system that the J-League uses (or used to use; it might have changed in recent years) — players can choose any number they like from 1-40, and if more than 40 players ever suit up, the additional ones have to go in order: 41, 42, 43…

    In high school baseball, the regulars always get their positions as jersey numbers, with the two backup pitchers wearing 10 and 11, the backup catcher wearing 12, and the others having 13-16. Pitchers take great pride in being handed the #1 jersey. Very much like rugby.

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left

    Tell me about it — I must have spent 15 minutes finding a date where the standings matched up with those little flags, and had been feeling like some kind of genius when I found one!

  • Eric | June 23, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”336425″][quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]
    That’s pretty much the only hip-hop I like anymore. 90% of the market today is crap, Jay-Z is probably the only artist I really care for and he’s getting old. Reasonable Doubt and In My Lifetime Vol 1 & 2 will be considered old school before too long.

    Regarding TCQ, if someone could help me verify on youtube, in the video “1nce Again”, Phife Dawg sported a #37 Carnell Lake Steelers black jersey. I remember thinking this was so cool. Aside from Snoop wearing the Pens’ jersey and an occasional Pirates hat from Chuck D., Pittsburgh gear didn’t get much love back in the day.[/quote]

    Fun fact: NOB on Snoop’s Pens jersey? #94 GIN AND JUICE. Which makes me think that in the same video, Snoop also wears a Springfield Indians jersey #00 DOGGYSTYLE. I remember almost falling out of my chair the first time I saw that.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 23, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”336455″][quote comment=”336445″]I have it on good authority that the new uniforms will be silver helmets with green O’s. Plus a silver jersey and possible new yellow and greens. Word is its the same feather look on the sleeves.[/quote]

    so…kinda like this but inverted with silver then?[/quote]

    They NEED to ditch that number font. It’s kindergarten-quality. Go crazy with silver, feathers, metallics, color-on-color nameplates, etc., but ditch that awful font.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”336464″][quote comment=”336425″][quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]
    That’s pretty much the only hip-hop I like anymore. 90% of the market today is crap, Jay-Z is probably the only artist I really care for and he’s getting old. Reasonable Doubt and In My Lifetime Vol 1 & 2 will be considered old school before too long.

    Regarding TCQ, if someone could help me verify on youtube, in the video “1nce Again”, Phife Dawg sported a #37 Carnell Lake Steelers black jersey. I remember thinking this was so cool. Aside from Snoop wearing the Pens’ jersey and an occasional Pirates hat from Chuck D., Pittsburgh gear didn’t get much love back in the day.[/quote]

    Fun fact: NOB on Snoop’s Pens jersey? #94 GIN AND JUICE. Which makes me think that in the same video, Snoop also wears a Springfield Indians jersey #00 DOGGYSTYLE. I remember almost falling out of my chair the first time I saw that.[/quote]

    “They call me Nas im not ur legal type of fella
    Moet drinking,marijuana smoking street dwella”

    I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death

    Here’s a NSFW page full of clever lines:

    http://answers.yahoo...

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”336431″]
    After I hit “Say It”, I thought, “No, wait, Wrigley didn’t built it.”
    My point. of course, was that the concept of “naming rights” and “marketing the brand”” etc, were a long way off a the time. They named those stadiums for ego reasons, because they were developers creating landmarks in their home towns.

    Like, say, oh, maybe, um, let’s see…Trump Towers?

    So I think the point is that they didn’t sell the name. Named it after themselves, yes…but they didn’t peddle it.

    —Ricko

    I think it’s different when you own the team, as Wrigley did. Same goes for Coors Field, Busch Stadium, etc. More of a vanity move than a corporate move. Remember, MLB wouldn’t allow the Busch family to name their ballpark Budweiser Field….

    So in theory, if the Wilpons had sold the Mets to Citigroup, Citifield would be acceptable?

    If Citigroup owned the Mets, the stadium would be called “Obama Field”.[/quote]

    Someone, here in NY, referred to it as Government Field the other da.

  • Peter | June 23, 2009 at 2:49 pm |

    sorry if this was posted already, (I didn’t have time to read 175+ posts)…but would you really sue over something like this? the flood gates have been opened

    http://www.insidebay...

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”336424″][quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]

    More Tribe:

    Always wanted this ’cause it surely beats a scramble/ I’m Jordan with the mic (huh) wanna gamble?[/quote]

    Styles upon styles upon styles is what I have

    You wanna diss the phifer but you still dont know the half
    I sport new balance sneakersto avoid a narrow path
    Messin round with this you catch ? the sizin of em?
    I never half step cause Im not a half stepper
    Drink a lot of soda so they call me dr. pepper

    You soar off to another world, deep in your mind
    But people seem to take that, as being unkind
    “Oh yo he’s acting stank,” really on a regal?
    A man of the fame not a man of the people
    Believe that if you wanna but I tell you this much
    Riding on the train with no dough, sucks

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 2:52 pm |

    Osaka Stadium, former home of the Nankai Hawks is now a shopping mall call Namba Parks. But you can see the mound

    http://userdisk.webr...

    Home plate
    http://userdisk.webr...

    Google Maps
    http://maps.google.c...

  • Bernard | June 23, 2009 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”336454″][quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]

    If that’s “old School” I must be prehistoric. “I got a color TV so I can see the Kicks play basketball”[/quote]

    Well, I suppose “old school” is a relative term. But Midnight Marauders DID drop 16 years ago (before a lot of today’s rap audience was born).

  • Mark K | June 23, 2009 at 2:58 pm |

    Teebz-

    How are you accounting for the fact that the players are playing with a different supporting cast? One might be on a team with a crap goalie, for instance.

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote]Here’s a NSFW page full of clever lines[/quote]

    oxymoron of the day

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”336469″][quote comment=”336424″][quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]

    More Tribe:

    Always wanted this ’cause it surely beats a scramble/ I’m Jordan with the mic (huh) wanna gamble?[/quote]

    Styles upon styles upon styles is what I have

    You wanna diss the phifer but you still dont know the half
    I sport new balance sneakersto avoid a narrow path
    Messin round with this you catch ? the sizin of em?
    I never half step cause Im not a half stepper
    Drink a lot of soda so they call me dr. pepper

    You soar off to another world, deep in your mind
    But people seem to take that, as being unkind
    “Oh yo he’s acting stank,” really on a regal?
    A man of the fame not a man of the people
    Believe that if you wanna but I tell you this much
    Riding on the train with no dough, sucks[/quote]

    If my mom dont approve, then I’ll just elope
    Let me sink the little man from inside the boat
    Let me hit it from the back, girl I won’t catch a hernia
    Bust off on your couch, now you got semen’s furniture

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”336463″]Jeremy, I remember that Japan Football Association numbering problem from a few years ago. Wasn’t there some kind of snafu when submitting the rosters, so that 1-30 couldn’t be reassigned to the players that they actually wanted on the team, and so the people who ended up playing got stuck with those high numbers?

    I like the numbering system that the J-League uses (or used to use; it might have changed in recent years) — players can choose any number they like from 1-40, and if more than 40 players ever suit up, the additional ones have to go in order: 41, 42, 43…

    In high school baseball, the regulars always get their positions as jersey numbers, with the two backup pitchers wearing 10 and 11, the backup catcher wearing 12, and the others having 13-16. Pitchers take great pride in being handed the #1 jersey. Very much like rugby.

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left

    Tell me about it — I must have spent 15 minutes finding a date where the standings matched up with those little flags, and had been feeling like some kind of genius when I found one![/quote]

    Don’t worry about it, the AFC has made mistakes in the past and they just felt that this was much easier to do. I can still remember in the first year of the J-League when it was 1-11, plus 12-16 for the subs. I mean Kazu was #11, and if he wasn’t then he had too many yellow cards or red cards, right?

    The J-League uses the 1-40 which is fine, but even guys get kind of screwed by it. Mitsuo Ogasawara with the Antlers left with #8, goes to Italy for a half-season, comes back then is using #40. Antlers, you should have reserved #8 for him!!

    I always loved seeing Toninho Cerezo coaching the Antlers in #41 on the bench, put me in coach, oh that’s me.

  • Dan | June 23, 2009 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”336461″]Oregon/Nike
    Start with forest and yellow.
    Add black.
    Now add silver?
    Must have been inspired by something Elmer Fudd said,
    “Whoooooaaa…I wuv my Duck Waders.”[/quote]

    This was rumored a few years ago when Oregon made their current change. A silver helmet was apparently in the talks, but was later scrapped in favor of the yellow helmet.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 3:05 pm |

    Last one, I promise…I too am biding my time until 4PM.

    Brothers front, they say the Tribe can’t flow
    But we’ve been known to do the impossible like Broadway Joe so
    Sleep if you want, my crew will help you get your Z’s troop
    But here’s the real scoop
    I’m all that and then some, short dark and handsome
    Bust a nut inside your eye, to show you where I come from

  • Berto | June 23, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”336468″]sorry if this was posted already, (I didn’t have time to read 175+ posts)…but would you really sue over something like this? the flood gates have been opened

    http://www.insidebay...

    Bill Simmons wrote a column on this on ESPN.com about a week ago. As of his writing he says no one has come forward to claim the settlement. This kind of thing should be ridiculed as loudly as possible.

  • Martin Hick | June 23, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”336466″][quote comment=”336464″][quote comment=”336425″][quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]
    That’s pretty much the only hip-hop I like anymore. 90% of the market today is crap, Jay-Z is probably the only artist I really care for and he’s getting old. Reasonable Doubt and In My Lifetime Vol 1 & 2 will be considered old school before too long.

    Regarding TCQ, if someone could help me verify on youtube, in the video “1nce Again”, Phife Dawg sported a #37 Carnell Lake Steelers black jersey. I remember thinking this was so cool. Aside from Snoop wearing the Pens’ jersey and an occasional Pirates hat from Chuck D., Pittsburgh gear didn’t get much love back in the day.[/quote]

    Fun fact: NOB on Snoop’s Pens jersey? #94 GIN AND JUICE. Which makes me think that in the same video, Snoop also wears a Springfield Indians jersey #00 DOGGYSTYLE. I remember almost falling out of my chair the first time I saw that.[/quote]

    “They call me Nas im not ur legal type of fella
    Moet drinking,marijuana smoking street dwella”

    I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death

    Here’s a NSFW page full of clever lines:

    http://answers.yahoo...

    “Illmatic” is a phenomenal album. Primo’s productions were the finest. Tip’s was ok. P. Rock, very good.
    Nasty fell off big time after that. At least in my opinion.
    I feel bad for being off of uniforms, but I can’t resist discussing music if it comes up. Sorry.

    Here is one of my raps from 1992.

    Drawing all the teams I’m the uniform master
    My markers hit the papers and they’re flowing out faster
    Starter? Champion? And the others can’t touch me
    I got my own theories that no one else can see

    Thanks to Uniwatch, I see that there are others.

  • Mike Engle | June 23, 2009 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”336478″][quote comment=”336468″]sorry if this was posted already, (I didn’t have time to read 175+ posts)…but would you really sue over something like this? the flood gates have been opened

    http://www.insidebay...

    Bill Simmons wrote a column on this on ESPN.com about a week ago. As of his writing he says no one has come forward to claim the settlement. This kind of thing should be ridiculed as loudly as possible.[/quote]
    If by Bill Simmons, you mean Rick Reilly, then yes. ;-)

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”336480″][quote comment=”336478″][quote comment=”336468″]sorry if this was posted already, (I didn’t have time to read 175+ posts)…but would you really sue over something like this? the flood gates have been opened

    http://www.insidebay...

    Bill Simmons wrote a column on this on ESPN.com about a week ago. As of his writing he says no one has come forward to claim the settlement. This kind of thing should be ridiculed as loudly as possible.[/quote]
    If by Bill Simmons, you mean Rick Reilly, then yes. ;-)[/quote]

    dammit mike…i thought it was he…was in my “this and that” section [Are you a male who’d like to make $100 the sleazy way? Then Rick Reilly has a deal for you] from a couple weekends ago…thought it was reilly…good memory

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    oops:

    Affirmative Action, Nas and the Firm

    *******************NSFW********************
    http://www.youtube.c...

    Even for those of you who don’t care for this style of music, the engineering behind the details is excellent

    Life’s a Bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me
    I’ll be flooded with ice, so hellfire can’t scorch me

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”336482″]oops:

    Affirmative Action, Nas and the Firm

    *******************NSFW********************
    http://www.youtube.c...

    Even for those of you who don’t care for this style of music, the engineering behind the details is excellent

    Life’s a Bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me
    I’ll be flooded with ice, so hellfire can’t scorch me[/quote]

    a better version:
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Berto | June 23, 2009 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”336480″][quote comment=”336478″][quote comment=”336468″]sorry if this was posted already, (I didn’t have time to read 175+ posts)…but would you really sue over something like this? the flood gates have been opened

    http://www.insidebay...

    Bill Simmons wrote a column on this on ESPN.com about a week ago. As of his writing he says no one has come forward to claim the settlement. This kind of thing should be ridiculed as loudly as possible.[/quote]
    If by Bill Simmons, you mean Rick Reilly, then yes. ;-)[/quote]

    Oops. sheepish word up.

  • Bernard | June 23, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”336482″]oops:

    Affirmative Action, Nas and the Firm

    *******************NSFW********************
    http://www.youtube.c...

    Even for those of you who don’t care for this style of music, the engineering behind the details is excellent

    Life’s a Bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me
    I’ll be flooded with ice, so hellfire can’t scorch me[/quote]

    Inhale deep like the words on my breath
    I never sleep, ’cause sleep is the cousin of death

    Okay, I’m done.

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”336472″]Teebz-

    How are you accounting for the fact that the players are playing with a different supporting cast? One might be on a team with a crap goalie, for instance.[/quote]

    That makes no difference. A defenceman’s job is to prevent goals from being scored. When he contributes offensively, it’s a bonus.

    I went over this in detail on my blog to explain it a little more. Click my name for more info.

  • Berto | June 23, 2009 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”336479″][quote comment=”336466″][quote comment=”336464″][quote comment=”336425″][quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]
    That’s pretty much the only hip-hop I like anymore. 90% of the market today is crap, Jay-Z is probably the only artist I really care for and he’s getting old. Reasonable Doubt and In My Lifetime Vol 1 & 2 will be considered old school before too long.

    Regarding TCQ, if someone could help me verify on youtube, in the video “1nce Again”, Phife Dawg sported a #37 Carnell Lake Steelers black jersey. I remember thinking this was so cool. Aside from Snoop wearing the Pens’ jersey and an occasional Pirates hat from Chuck D., Pittsburgh gear didn’t get much love back in the day.[/quote]

    Fun fact: NOB on Snoop’s Pens jersey? #94 GIN AND JUICE. Which makes me think that in the same video, Snoop also wears a Springfield Indians jersey #00 DOGGYSTYLE. I remember almost falling out of my chair the first time I saw that.[/quote]

    “They call me Nas im not ur legal type of fella
    Moet drinking,marijuana smoking street dwella”

    I never sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death

    Here’s a NSFW page full of clever lines:

    http://answers.yahoo...

    “Illmatic” is a phenomenal album. Primo’s productions were the finest. Tip’s was ok. P. Rock, very good.
    Nasty fell off big time after that. At least in my opinion.
    I feel bad for being off of uniforms, but I can’t resist discussing music if it comes up. Sorry.

    Here is one of my raps from 1992.

    Drawing all the teams I’m the uniform master
    My markers hit the papers and they’re flowing out faster
    Starter? Champion? And the others can’t touch me
    I got my own theories that no one else can see

    Thanks to Uniwatch, I see that there are others.[/quote]

    Join us here each week my friend
    We’re sure to make you rock
    With me Par D and Snake puppy
    Our rhymes will never stop
    Fly girls fly guys and the whole damn crowd
    With a simple scream and shout
    We want you all to know that
    The Dream Team’s in the house

  • JTH | June 23, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”336377″][quote comment=”336367″][quote comment=”336358″][quote comment=”336348″][quote comment=”336343″][quote comment=”336339″]

    jesus…i just saw this…that would have saved me some brain cells…the few i have left[/quote]

    D’oh![/quote]

    Hey ladies in the place I’m callin’ out to ya
    There never was a city kid truer and bluer
    There’s more to me than you’ll ever know
    And I’ve got more hits than Sadaharu Oh

    I got mad hits…like I was Rod Carew[/quote]

    A true UW crossover…sports, Beasties and attention to detail:

    http://mic-to-mic.bl...

    ****************NSFW************************
    For those of you not in the know:

    1.32 into it:

    http://www.youtube.c...
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]
    Wow. Nice find, Powers. I’ve always wondered where the mashed potatoes sample came from. And I actually remember hearing the bit that the sample came from as a kid, long before “Ill Communication” (hell, it was long before Licensed to Ill).

    I’m the king of Boggle
    There is none higher
    I get 11 points
    Off the word “quagmire”

    Boggle is a sport, right?

  • Paul Lukas | June 23, 2009 at 3:49 pm |

    I’m gonna start a rap lyrics site any day now. But until I do, let’s stick to the business at hand, shall we?

    Thanks.

  • mike 2 | June 23, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”336406″]On a completely unrelated note, the Hockey Hall of Fame announces its inductees today (four maximum):

    Locks – Yzerman, Hull, Leetch
    Likely – Robitaille
    Unlikely – Andreychuk, Gilmour, Mogilny[/quote]

    Exactly what I thought – Yzerman, Hull, Leetch, Robitaille

    I wasn’t sure about Robitaille, I’d like to believe his starring role as “himself” in Sudden Death clinched it.

  • James Craven | June 23, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”336432″]“Sixers unveil new old branding today.”[/quote]

    Holy fucking shit, they’re going back to the 1982-83 boring unis and logo. What the fuck’s next, Dr. Frankenstin revivng Dave Zinkoff for the PA duties? The old logo should be imploded like the Spectrum IMHO. I could live with some sort of compromise (no black, but dark navy blue).

  • chance michaels | June 23, 2009 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”336489″]I’m gonna start a rap lyrics site any day now. But until I do, let’s stick to the business at hand, shall we?

    Thanks.[/quote]
    Not a problem.

    Sixers’ new logo is up: http://www.nba.com/s...

    New Ducks uniforms steaming now, with lots of talk about how uniform evolution is the University’s tradition.

  • Jeff P | June 23, 2009 at 4:07 pm |

    First unveiled: Green with grey wings and grey numbers, bordered with yellow.

  • James Craven | June 23, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=\”336494\”]\”Sixers\’ new old logo is up:\” http://www.nba.com/s...

    [Joanne Worley impression]BORRRRRRR-ING![/Joanne Worley impression]

  • JTH | June 23, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    “Blending science with art”

  • James Craven | June 23, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”336495″]“First unveiled: Green with grey wings and grey numbers…”[/quote]
    Oh Holy Shit! They just ripped the Eagles’ colors off. Betcha Buddy Ryan would be pissed off if he was still coaching.

  • Eric | June 23, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    I’m impressed with the new Duck threads. Their only good one before IMO was the all-whites. Now they all look somewhat respectable. And Wings have more to do with Ducks than Diamond Plating ever will.

  • Jeff P | June 23, 2009 at 4:14 pm |

    And the flames are gone on the helmets.

    And they’re going with two aways.

    Yellow with black pants. Actually a pretty good look.

    And the other away is a gray (“steel”) pant and helmet with a gray helmet. This away has gray instead of green numbers and wings.

    “A lot better variations” according to the guy. I have to agree. The wings are different, but I like them and other then that and the goofy font it’s a clean design. Much better then their last set.

  • david | June 23, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    Could Nike pat themselves on the back a little more during this press conference? The uniforms are a lot more toned down, but in my opinion the wings look cheap. Funny to hear the Nike Rep’s reaction to the reporter asking if they still have the flames on the helmet, he sounded as if he was ashamed they were ever there.

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    linkie?

  • rjcoy06 | June 23, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”336424″][quote comment=”336419″][quote comment=”336413″][quote comment=”336393″][quote comment=”336377″]
    YES! I always wondered what that was from!

    That line was oft heard at parties I went to shortly after that album dropped.

    Beasties got MAD sports references in their tracks:

    Led my team to 60 wins like my man Pat Ewing (Flute Loop)
    Like Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car well (Shadrach)
    Whatcha gotta say that I don’t know already/I’m like Clyde, and I’m rockin’ steady (Pass the Mic)
    Oh, and the song Tough Guy was basically a hate song entirely towards Bill Laimbeer!

    I’m sure there are many more B’boys sports related references, those were the ones (along the Oh and Carew you already mentioned) that quickly come to mind.[/quote]

    Not the Beasties, but one of my favorites is

    If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock
    Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock[/quote]
    Nice. A Tribe Called Quest. They had another line that was near and dear to my heart:
    Large Professor’s in the house/you know how we do/I skate on your crew/like Mario Lemieux[/quote]

    Damn, beat me to it Kek! Never realized there were old-school hip hop fans among us.[/quote]

    More Tribe:

    Always wanted this ’cause it surely beats a scramble/ I’m Jordan with the mic (huh) wanna gamble?[/quote]

    I always liked this one from Brand Nubian:

    The first round pick, why’d The Knicks trade Rod Strick?
    That man is nice!

  • JTH | June 23, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”336503″]linkie?[/quote]
    http://www.goducks.t...

  • MLB2PDX | June 23, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    Press release from ducks

    http://www.goducks.c...

    White #1 away uniform
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

  • mmwatkin | June 23, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”336507″]Press release from ducks

    http://www.goducks.c...

    White #1 away uniform
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    From the article:

    “All told, Oregon will have 80 different combinations (jersey/pant/helmet) at their disposal.”

    Sweet jesus Nike…just stop…

  • MLB2PDX | June 23, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    I’m a lifelong Duck fan, 12 year season ticket holder, and 34 years old…I have to say, I like these unis. They’re not what I would have designed, but I also understand that I’m no longer of the college generation.

    Not a huge fan of the wings, since they’re not really “duck wings” but more “Trojan/Spartan armor” wings, but whatever. I can get over it.

    No flames. No cammo (like basketball). Dont mind the steel/silver look. I will never, ever, be a fan of the black. But if the kids like it, then so be it.

    Can I dig it? Yes, I can dig it…

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 4:24 pm |

    4 helmet colors
    Green, white, black, carbon (steel)
    5 uniform top colors
    Green, white (2), black, yellow
    4 pants colors
    Green, white, black, carbon (steel)

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 4:27 pm |

    The University of Oregon football team has made headlines with cutting-edge uniform designs and combinations for the past decade. Now the Ducks will take the field in 2009 wearing their most innovative and performance enhancing uniforms to date.
    I never knew that “innovative” was a synonym for “stupid looking”.

    Hey, a 200% weight differential because you use FEATHERS? What’s the weight differential if you just use AS LITTLE AS IS NEEDED FOR PROTECTION?

  • KB | June 23, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    Steel, Carbon, Feathers???

    Are those new football uniforms, or are they new gear for World of Warcraft characters?

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”336493″][quote comment=”336432″]“Sixers unveil new old branding today.”[/quote]

    Holy fucking shit, they’re going back to the 1982-83 boring unis and logo. What the fuck’s next, Dr. Frankenstin revivng Dave Zinkoff for the PA duties? The old logo should be imploded like the Spectrum IMHO. I could live with some sort of compromise (no black, but dark navy blue).[/quote]

    I call it classic. And I’d love to hear Dave Zinkoff say, “Julius Errrrrrrrrrving!” one more time. No navy blue, please. Become a Patriots fan if you want navy blue. Or you could ask the Sixers to make this just one of 80 possible uniform combinations…oh wait, the Oregon Nikes already came up with that idea…

  • Jeff P | June 23, 2009 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”336512″]Steel, Carbon, Feathers???

    Are those new football uniforms, or are they new gear for World of Warcraft characters?[/quote]
    WoW uses medieval stuff, not modern stuff.

    And remember those winged uniforms they wore for a game last year? That’s what the new set is based off of. Actually looks decent. Carbon and Steel are their fancy names for black and gray though.

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 4:48 pm |

    so…if green is thunder, yellow is lightning…and gray is carbon (or steel)

    what are black & white?

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”336508″][quote comment=”336507″]From the article:

    “All told, Oregon will have 80 different combinations (jersey/pant/helmet) at their disposal.”[/quote]

    One combination for each year since they’ve won the Rose Bowl? No wait, they need to come up with a few more…

    Last appearance in the grandaddy of them all? Beaten by the team with the best unis…Penn State.

  • chance michaels | June 23, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”336515″]so…if green is thunder, yellow is lightning…and gray is carbon (or steel)

    what are black & white?[/quote]

    “Midnight” and “Ice Storm”. :D

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”336515″]so…if green is thunder, yellow is lightning…and gray is carbon (or steel)

    what are black & white?[/quote]

    Words that won’t be used at the Lowell Spinners’ Politically Correct game…

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”336517″][quote comment=”336515″]so…if green is thunder, yellow is lightning…and gray is carbon (or steel)

    what are black & white?[/quote]

    “Midnight” and “Ice Storm”. :D[/quote]

    actually, if memory serves from tennis…doesn’t nike call black “obsidian”?

    …somewhere in minnesota, mr. pearson’s head just ‘sploded…and somewhere just north of manhattan…powers busted a nut

  • JTH | June 23, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”336519″][quote comment=”336517″][quote comment=”336515″]so…if green is thunder, yellow is lightning…and gray is carbon (or steel)

    what are black & white?[/quote]

    “Midnight” and “Ice Storm”. :D[/quote]

    actually, if memory serves from tennis…doesn’t nike call black “obsidian”?

    …somewhere in minnesota, mr. pearson’s head just ‘sploded…and somewhere just north of manhattan…powers busted a nut[/quote]
    That reminds me, I think the new name they’re using for white is “Peter North”

  • Mark K | June 23, 2009 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”336502″]Could Nike pat themselves on the back a little more during this press conference? The uniforms are a lot more toned down, but in my opinion the wings look cheap. Funny to hear the Nike Rep’s reaction to the reporter asking if they still have the flames on the helmet, he sounded as if he was ashamed they were ever there.[/quote]

    I wish someone would have asked him why they designed all these jerseys that don’t comply with NCAA Rules.

  • KB | June 23, 2009 at 5:07 pm |

    With the major announcement of “Steel” uniforms, folks might not be aware that Oregon also opened the Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can’t Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too

  • Eddie | June 23, 2009 at 5:16 pm |

    I believe Obsidian is a darker shade of Navy Blue

  • CoachKing | June 23, 2009 at 5:30 pm |

    Here is the best photo of the Oregon uni’s that I can find so far:

    http://img40.yfrog.c...

  • =bg= | June 23, 2009 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”336451″][quote comment=”336441″][quote comment=”336396″]Chase Field, Great American Ballpark–they just kind of work.

    Progressive Field and U.S. Cellular Field sound like hell.[/quote]

    A) Chase Field: okay, did “Bank One Ballpark” work or sound like hell?

    B) Great American: until right now I didn’t know for sure that it was a corporation’s name. Still can’t tell you what they sell or provide.

    C) US Cellular: to me, it sounds dumb, not necessarily “like hell”. But then again I’ve heard it a zillion times.[/quote]

    A) Bank One Ballpark sounded like hell. However, bonus points for “the Bob” nickname.

    B) Marketing dollars well spent there…

    C) Mostly “like hell” because, honestly, who uses the word “cellular” nowadays.[/quote]

    Great American==Insurance. Carl Lindner, local mogul. Owns Chiquita among other things- used to own the Reds.

  • another Josh | June 23, 2009 at 5:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”336359″][quote comment=”336355″]He then dropped trou to get the dirt out of inside his jersey and pants, without thinking he was doing it in public. Not really scandalous, as he was wearing compression shorts, but it was now baseball legend.[/quote]
    Agree, he didn’t “drop his pants” to moon someone or anything like that. Strictly a blockhead move on his part, with no dirty or profane intent.[/quote]

    I seem to remember Mark Grace doing this once when he played for the Cubs. Maybe it was an homage.

  • =bg= | June 23, 2009 at 5:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”336507″]Press release from ducks

    http://www.goducks.c...

    White #1 away uniform
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Tell me..those…aren’t…feathers on the shoulders. No.

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”336524″]Here is the best photo of the Oregon uni’s that I can find so far:

    http://img40.yfrog.c...

    If it weren’t for the number font, I wouldn’t have much of a problem. I don’t see the need for the other colors besides green and yellow, but I can live with it. I just can’t stand that number font.

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”336527″][quote comment=”336507″]Press release from ducks

    http://www.goducks.c...

    White #1 away uniform
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Tell me..those…aren’t…feathers on the shoulders. No.[/quote]

    that’s actually what they wore last season (as far as the feathers) … back then it was just black tho…now it’s feathers on every color

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 5:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”336511″]The University of Oregon football team has made headlines with cutting-edge uniform designs and combinations for the past decade. Now the Ducks will take the field in 2009 wearing their most innovative and performance enhancing uniforms to date.quote]

    Will there someday be an MLB-style crackdown on “performance enhancing uniforms”? I thought everyone was supposed to wear standard issue uniforms. I could understand wanting to stick out with different colors, but performance enhancing? Is that just a way to excuse the fact that the Ducks haven’t won a Rose Bowl in almost a century? “Well, their old uniforms were holding them back.” Okay, sure…

    The wings aren’t too bad, though. Reminds me of the Iowa Barnstormers.

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”336526″]I seem to remember Mark Grace doing this once when he played for the Cubs. Maybe it was an homage.[/quote]
    Did Grace do this in Wrigley, during a game?

    Or maybe on Rush Street a little later in the evening?

  • anotherguy | June 23, 2009 at 5:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”336525″]Great American==Insurance. Carl Lindner, local mogul. Owns Chiquita among other things- used to own the Reds.[/quote]
    Was either Kroch or Brentano a Cincy owner at one time??

  • another Josh | June 23, 2009 at 5:51 pm |

    Flip Flop comments

    There are several of these that I would consider buying posters of, particularly:
    Major League Fields
    NL & AL History
    Washington D.C.

    Thoughts on specific charts there:

    Major League parks – The Naming Rights seems too basic, especially since Rogers Centre is broken out because it’s named for the current owners. Other parks, like Busch and Wrigley were named after previous owners, and thus should be in some sort of similar category.

    I’ve always wondered about the Home Team Dugouts chart. Pity he didn’t include bullpen locations.

    I’d like to see the travel chart for all teams, that’d be pretty spiffy.

    For the Retired Numbers, it made me go look at the Washington Nationals page he referenced. Turns out the Nationals have a page for Franchise Retired numbers ( http://washington.na...) where they’ve retired #10 twice, but going to their roster page I see that Ronnie Belliard is currently assigned that number. I guess retiring the number twice wasn’t good enough.

    The NL & AL history chart is my favorite of the bunch. I didn’t realize that the Tigers are the only original AL team that’s had the same name and location since the league was founded. There is so much nifty information in that one graphic.

    Something is needed to fill in all the green space on the 2009 ticket prices chart due to those high priced seats in a few parks.

  • CoachKing | June 23, 2009 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”336529″][quote comment=”336527″][quote comment=”336507″]Press release from ducks

    http://www.goducks.c...

    White #1 away uniform
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Tell me..those…aren’t…feathers on the shoulders. No.[/quote]

    that’s actually what they wore last season (as far as the feathers) … back then it was just black tho…now it’s feathers on every color[/quote]

    The photo tab in this story has a good look of all the color combinations
    http://www.registerg...

  • Dave | June 23, 2009 at 6:10 pm |

    so we all knew the sixers would do this. at first glance, it seems the blue is a bit lighter than it was in the 80s. i’m not opposed to this. i’d love to see the standard white homes and red roads, but i’d LOVE to se a road blue uniform as an alternate, just simply inverting the red roads. and i don’t suppose it’s too late to hope for a remake of the 1977 uniforms, which nowadays would look spectacular, given the greater amount of material to work with.

  • GoDucks! | June 23, 2009 at 6:33 pm |
  • GoDucks! | June 23, 2009 at 6:35 pm |

    Sorry guys…these links should work. (yes…thats a carbon fiber pattern on the new steel helmet)

    Here are the new Oregon Unis.

    Go Ducks!

    http://i635.photobuc...

    http://i635.photobuc...

    http://i635.photobuc...

  • NoDucks | June 23, 2009 at 6:41 pm |

    Here is a nike blog w/photos of new duck unis

    http://www.nikeblog....

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 6:47 pm |

    In a rather bizarre twist of events in our men’s softball league, our team has finally cleared security clearance for our game tomorrow.

    Now, you might be asking why we would need security clearance. The reason? We’re playing in a prison.

    Without a word of a lie, we play a team of inmates tomorrow evening inside the prison. I’m not sure if they’ll allow me to bring my camera in, but I’m gonna try to get photos if possible.

  • Brooks Simpson | June 23, 2009 at 6:49 pm |

    http://www.newsday.c...

    More corporate logos … on practice unis.

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 6:56 pm |
  • MLB2PDX | June 23, 2009 at 7:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”336541″]really?[/quote]

    Uhh, interesting. I still stand by my earlier comment that I don’t mind this set of unis that much. I will take this look ANY DAY over ‘diamond plating’. But yeah, not how I would have designed things…but I’m also not 20 and ‘hip’ anymore.

    And, I guess on the one hand, it is kind of cool to let players have that much say in what they wear. I’m sure it helps recruiting a little.

  • interlockingtc | June 23, 2009 at 7:21 pm |

    The Sixers come to their senses!

    Let’s hope this will be the road jersey…

    http://ecx.images-am...

  • DJ | June 23, 2009 at 7:22 pm |

    I’m at US Cellular Field for tonight’s White Sox-Dodgers game. They are selling MLB Authentic Sox jerseys in the 1959 style (similar to the throwbacks they wore against the Dodgers in 2005, except in white, as opposed to cream). Perhaps the Sox will go throwback during this series.

  • mike 2 | June 23, 2009 at 7:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”336539″]In a rather bizarre twist of events in our men’s softball league, our team has finally cleared security clearance for our game tomorrow.

    Now, you might be asking why we would need security clearance. The reason? We’re playing in a prison.

    Without a word of a lie, we play a team of inmates tomorrow evening inside the prison. I’m not sure if they’ll allow me to bring my camera in, but I’m gonna try to get photos if possible.[/quote]

    Out of curiousity, which prison? I’ve been inside Headingly and Stoney (as counsel, not a resident, LOL).

  • TMD | June 23, 2009 at 7:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”336542″][quote comment=”336541″]really?[/quote]

    Uhh, interesting. I still stand by my earlier comment that I don’t mind this set of unis that much. I will take this look ANY DAY over ‘diamond plating’. But yeah, not how I would have designed things…but I’m also not 20 and ‘hip’ anymore.

    And, I guess on the one hand, it is kind of cool to let players have that much say in what they wear. I’m sure it helps recruiting a little.[/quote]

    As a 20-something, I’m not sure I buy that excuse anymore. You can go to USC, and you’re stuck with “classic” uniforms or you can go to Oregon and look like a fool.

    Who are they competing against that uniforms are the difference. Utah State and Idaho?

  • Thomas Clark | June 23, 2009 at 7:37 pm |

    No pics yet but Brandon Inge of the Detroit Tigers had a young man with a terminal illness (I believe) sign his arm this afternoon and it’s fully visible on his forearm.

  • MLB2PDX | June 23, 2009 at 7:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”336546″][quote comment=”336542″][quote comment=”336541″]really?[/quote]

    Uhh, interesting. I still stand by my earlier comment that I don’t mind this set of unis that much. I will take this look ANY DAY over ‘diamond plating’. But yeah, not how I would have designed things…but I’m also not 20 and ‘hip’ anymore.

    And, I guess on the one hand, it is kind of cool to let players have that much say in what they wear. I’m sure it helps recruiting a little.[/quote]

    As a 20-something, I’m not sure I buy that excuse anymore. You can go to USC, and you’re stuck with “classic” uniforms or you can go to Oregon and look like a fool.

    Who are they competing against that uniforms are the difference. Utah State and Idaho?[/quote]

    No, that’s the whole point (or their whole point I should say)…not being a USC, traditional/classic with the unis, since a lot of the college generation consider it boring and want something new. Same goes for the black. There’s a reason a crazy amount of those unis sell each year (in all sports).

    Oregon’s unis are partially designed by the players. So if they like it, as a team, then so be it. Do I “get it”? No, not completely. If I were to design unis would mine look much different, absolutely. But I do see what they are trying to accomplish with this all.

    If you’re in your 20’s and dont like them, I have a funny feeling you’re in the minority (and good for you). I’m in my 30’s, and I am sure most of ‘us’ share my sentiments about not liking them all that much. But they’re not targeting “us”…

    I’m just glad the diamond plate is gone. Now if only the basketball team will lose the cammo. Good God…

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 23, 2009 at 7:49 pm |

    Official Duck Photo Gallery photos

    Yellow top, black pants
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    All five at once
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    White #2 top, carbon pants, carbon helmet
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    White #1 top, green pants
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Carbon helmet up close
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Look closely in the center stripe, “GO OREGON GO DUCKS GO HARD”
    That is not on the other helmets.

    On field carbon helmet
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

  • Sean | June 23, 2009 at 8:24 pm |

    Not sure if this has been pointed out (due to the Oregon Uni enveiling) but I just found the NEW 2009 World Series logo on Wikipedia.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Jeff_in_Union_City | June 23, 2009 at 8:34 pm |

    I never comment here, but I have to say that those Oregon unis are the worst things I have ever seen from them … and that is saying a lot

  • Peter | June 23, 2009 at 8:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”336461″]Oregon/Nike
    Start with forest and yellow.
    Add black.
    Now add silver?
    Must have been inspired by something Elmer Fudd said,
    “Whoooooaaa…I wuv my Duck Waders.”[/quote]

    It’s easy to shoot your mouth off when you’re sitting at your computer, isn’t it? I invite you to come down to Eugene and tell the players (who designed these) exactly what you type here.

    No? Don’t want to? I can understand. We may wear yellow, but you’re yellow to the core. Pathetic.

  • Kek | June 23, 2009 at 8:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”336457″][quote comment=”336446″]Forbes Field home plate at the University of Pittsburgh.
    http://www.forbesfie...
    Choose #8 & #10.[/quote]

    Pitt-Tokyo Campus?[/quote]
    Much nicer than the painted on the parking lot treatment the plate at Three Rivers has.

  • Flip | June 23, 2009 at 8:55 pm |

    I could play with those Flip Flop Fly Ball graphics for hours. I can’t wait for the interview.

  • Tom Farley | June 23, 2009 at 9:01 pm |

    So could I, Flip. I haven’t seen sports information presented as … appealingly as Mr. Robinson presents it.

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 9:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”336549″]Official Duck Photo Gallery photos

    Yellow top, black pants
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    All five at once
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    White #2 top, carbon pants, carbon helmet
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    White #1 top, green pants
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Carbon helmet up close
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    Look closely in the center stripe, “GO OREGON GO DUCKS GO HARD”
    That is not on the other helmets.

    On field carbon helmet
    http://image.cdnl3.x...

    God/Devil is in the details.

    The center ridge of the carbon helmet has the Oregon wordmark repeated.

    The Chinstrap is also a matching carbon-fiber pattern.

    Overall, they remain different and innovative yet they are a bit more toned down.

    I still wish that theu would go with yellow facemasks to actually resemble ducks.

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”336552″][quote comment=”336461″]Oregon/Nike
    Start with forest and yellow.
    Add black.
    Now add silver?
    Must have been inspired by something Elmer Fudd said,
    “Whoooooaaa…I wuv my Duck Waders.”[/quote]

    It’s easy to shoot your mouth off when you’re sitting at your computer, isn’t it? I invite you to come down to Eugene and tell the players (who designed these) exactly what you type here.

    No? Don’t want to? I can understand. We may wear yellow, but you’re yellow to the core. Pathetic.[/quote]

    settle down peter, ricko’s as entitled to his opinion (as is everyone on here) as you are

    …might have been nice if he actually, ya know, saw the unis before dissing them, but he’s certainly entitled to have his thoughts heard (better than 50 posts of hip hop lyrics)

    personally i think they’re an improvement over the previous gen (belotti 1.0?) of unis, but the one set i really did like…yellow over yellow…appears to no longer be an option :(

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 9:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”336552″][quote comment=”336461″]Oregon/Nike
    Start with forest and yellow.
    Add black.
    Now add silver?
    Must have been inspired by something Elmer Fudd said,
    “Whoooooaaa…I wuv my Duck Waders.”[/quote]

    It’s easy to shoot your mouth off when you’re sitting at your computer, isn’t it? I invite you to come down to Eugene and tell the players (who designed these) exactly what you type here.

    No? Don’t want to? I can understand. We may wear yellow, but you’re yellow to the core. Pathetic.[/quote]

    Coming from someone who likes the unis, please remember that we welcome criticism as well as praise.

    And now, our daily reminder:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • =bg= | June 23, 2009 at 9:16 pm |

    heres a Y! piece on Oregon;
    http://rivals.yahoo....

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 9:20 pm |

    (better than 50 posts of hip hop lyrics)

    It’s easy to shoot your mouth off when you’re sitting at your computer, isn’t it?

    Fool, you better recognize:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • MPowers1634 | June 23, 2009 at 9:24 pm |

    Forgetting the hip hop lyrics and Stripes Quotes, something else uni=worthy from Eugene:

    #39 and #83 are wearing Team Exclusive LT 2.0 cleats.

    http://a323.yahoofs....

  • =bg= | June 23, 2009 at 9:42 pm |

    “finest athletic venue in the world.”
    http://sports.yahoo....

    How BOUT dem Cowboys.
    Now..if we can juuuuuust win a PLAYOFF GAME, Jere..

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”336545″][quote comment=”336539″]In a rather bizarre twist of events in our men’s softball league, our team has finally cleared security clearance for our game tomorrow.

    Now, you might be asking why we would need security clearance. The reason? We’re playing in a prison.

    Without a word of a lie, we play a team of inmates tomorrow evening inside the prison. I’m not sure if they’ll allow me to bring my camera in, but I’m gonna try to get photos if possible.[/quote]

    Out of curiousity, which prison? I’ve been inside Headingly and Stoney (as counsel, not a resident, LOL).[/quote]

    Stony Mountain, Mike. We’re going federal tomorrow.

    What I’d do for a Chico Bail Bonds uniform right about now… LOL

  • Ben Jamin | June 23, 2009 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”336476″]
    This was rumored a few years ago when Oregon made their current change. A silver helmet was apparently in the talks, but was later scrapped in favor of the yellow helmet.[/quote]

    There were several versions of uniforms designed for an 09 or 10 edition of new uniforms. The wings/feathers being one of those.

    Given previous Roboduck and diamond plating, it was believed that UO would unveil the motocross uniforms this year.

    As you can see here http://blog.oregonli... they decided to go another direction after the “success” of the Lights Out uniforms last year.

  • Kek | June 23, 2009 at 9:58 pm |

    Snoop also wore a homestead Grays sweatshirt in the “Gin and Juice” video.

    I’m coming up blank on one thing though, I thought that Snoop also wore the PITTSBURGH diagonally jersey with #1 and “WHATS MY NAME: in a video but I can’t seem to find it.

    Here’s the video of TCQ “1nce Again” http://www.youtube.c... Phife Dawg sports a semi-vintage Marshall Faulk Colts’ jersey but the Carnell lake makes an brief cameo at about the 3:12 mark.

    Once the throwback culture took hold, seeing rappers in jerseys in videos was passe but at this time, it was rare.

    I also remember Kadeem Hardison on a Different World wearing jerseys on the show. I konw most people remember the flip up sunglasses for the Dwayne Wayne role, but as a uni-geek, I remember him wearing the jerseys. Emmitt Smith, Warren moon and Doug Williams are all jerseys that come to mind. Again, this was well before the buying ad selling of NFL jerseys was as widespread as it is now.

    And I’ve got love for the Sugarhill Gang. Rapper’s Delight was an old karoke favorite of mine. Even performed it at my own wedding!

  • Jim BC | June 23, 2009 at 10:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”336563″][quote comment=”336545″][quote comment=”336539″]In a rather bizarre twist of events in our men’s softball league, our team has finally cleared security clearance for our game tomorrow.

    Now, you might be asking why we would need security clearance. The reason? We’re playing in a prison.

    Without a word of a lie, we play a team of inmates tomorrow evening inside the prison. I’m not sure if they’ll allow me to bring my camera in, but I’m gonna try to get photos if possible.[/quote]

    Out of curiousity, which prison? I’ve been inside Headingly and Stoney (as counsel, not a resident, LOL).[/quote]

    Stony Mountain, Mike. We’re going federal tomorrow.

    What I’d do for a Chico Bail Bonds uniform right about now… LOL[/quote]
    Holy Shit Teebz… Stony Mountain! That’s huge. Uh… good luck then…

  • Hibbs | June 23, 2009 at 10:09 pm |

    As for those Oregon players who helped design the new uniforms… Get them in the cross hairs, and take them down.

    You’re right! This is much easier while sitting at my computer.

    Yes yes y’all, and you don’t stop.

  • =bg= | June 23, 2009 at 10:12 pm |

    one more, then off to the BB game;
    http://www.cnbc.com/...

    Rovell: “A day after Lucas Glover took home the US Open title, we sat down with the 29-year-old champ to talk business. We counted four Nike logos on Tiger Woods yesterday. Counting your bag, we had you at nine Nike logos. You play with all Nike clubs too and a Nike ball.

  • =bg= | June 23, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    Oops, can’t leave this out.

    So I turn on the TB and there are the Giants playing at the A’s. A’s wearing their black jerseys and hats- first time I’ve seen them. I go, “Aaagh, those things are horrible! Why would they wear black? That’s not part of the color scheme!”

    My wife’s response:
    “You’re such a girl about uniforms.”

  • jude | June 23, 2009 at 10:25 pm |

    We’ve linked to the Blue Jays’ Canada Day jersey before, but here’s a picture of the uniform as it looks on a real human being – in this case, Scott Richmond.

    One point: I’m almost certain the Jays will wear their “Stars & Stripes” cap (actually a Canadian flag inside a modern Jays logo on a red cap) instead of the cap that Richmond is sporting in the picture.

    Canada Day is July 1. The Jays are playing a 1 p.m. game against the Tampa Bay Rays.

    – jude

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”336552″][quote comment=”336461″]Oregon/Nike
    Start with forest and yellow.
    Add black.
    Now add silver?
    Must have been inspired by something Elmer Fudd said,
    “Whoooooaaa…I wuv my Duck Waders.”[/quote]

    It’s easy to shoot your mouth off when you’re sitting at your computer, isn’t it? I invite you to come down to Eugene and tell the players (who designed these) exactly what you type here.

    No? Don’t want to? I can understand. We may wear yellow, but you’re yellow to the core. Pathetic.[/quote]

    Send me a ticket and pay my hotel bill and I’ll do it! I have a two-year-old daughter with a giant attitude and an even bigger mouth – a bunch of football players aren’t as scary as she is…

    All in all, the unis aren’t bad. I like the yellow and green; but I’ve never met a steel duck, so the carbon helmets are just asking for criticism. Lose that and give them a less-ugly number font and you’ve got something.

    By the way, I know it’s very 21st century to look tough (look at a football program from the 80s and see how many guys smiled then), but if the players helped design these unis you’d think they’d look a little happier.

  • JTH | June 23, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”336557″][quote comment=”336552″][quote comment=”336461″]Oregon/Nike
    Start with forest and yellow.
    Add black.
    Now add silver?
    Must have been inspired by something Elmer Fudd said,
    “Whoooooaaa…I wuv my Duck Waders.”[/quote]

    It’s easy to shoot your mouth off when you’re sitting at your computer, isn’t it? I invite you to come down to Eugene and tell the players (who designed these) exactly what you type here.

    No? Don’t want to? I can understand. We may wear yellow, but you’re yellow to the core. Pathetic.[/quote]

    settle down peter, ricko’s as entitled to his opinion (as is everyone on here) as you are

    …might have been nice if he actually, ya know, saw the unis before dissing them, but he’s certainly entitled to have his thoughts heard (better than 50 posts of hip hop lyrics)

    personally i think they’re an improvement over the previous gen (belotti 1.0?) of unis, but the one set i really did like…yellow over yellow…appears to no longer be an option :([/quote]
    I agree — big improvement over the previous generation, even though they’ve apparently shitcanned my favorite combo. Without white pants to go with it, they should not have a white helmet as an option.

    And Peter, save it for your YouTube post.

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”336570″]Oops, can’t leave this out.

    So I turn on the TB and there are the Giants playing at the A’s. A’s wearing their black jerseys and hats- first time I’ve seen them. I go, “Aaagh, those things are horrible! Why would they wear black? That’s not part of the color scheme!”

    My wife’s response:
    “You’re such a girl about uniforms.”[/quote]

    She must be an Oregon fan. Green and yellow aren’t good enough; they have to add black too? Just tell her you’re a man who “gets it.”

  • JTH | June 23, 2009 at 10:32 pm |

    Wait. I’m confused about something.

    Thunder = green
    Lightning = yellow
    Carbon = black
    Steel = silver/gray

    But it’s the “steel” helmets that have the carbon fiber pattern on them?

  • mike 2 | June 23, 2009 at 10:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”336563″][quote comment=”336545″][quote comment=”336539″]In a rather bizarre twist of events in our men’s softball league, our team has finally cleared security clearance for our game tomorrow.

    Now, you might be asking why we would need security clearance. The reason? We’re playing in a prison.

    Without a word of a lie, we play a team of inmates tomorrow evening inside the prison. I’m not sure if they’ll allow me to bring my camera in, but I’m gonna try to get photos if possible.[/quote]

    Out of curiousity, which prison? I’ve been inside Headingly and Stoney (as counsel, not a resident, LOL).[/quote]

    Stony Mountain, Mike. We’re going federal tomorrow.

    What I’d do for a Chico Bail Bonds uniform right about now… LOL[/quote]

    Or Mean Machine. Good luck.

  • JTH | June 23, 2009 at 10:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”336574″][quote comment=”336570″]Oops, can’t leave this out.

    So I turn on the TB and there are the Giants playing at the A’s. A’s wearing their black jerseys and hats- first time I’ve seen them. I go, “Aaagh, those things are horrible! Why would they wear black? That’s not part of the color scheme!”

    My wife’s response:
    “You’re such a girl about uniforms.”[/quote]

    She must be an Oregon fan. Green and yellow aren’t good enough; they have to add black too? Just tell her you’re a man who “gets it.”[/quote]
    Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?

  • ATLShaun | June 23, 2009 at 11:00 pm |

    if you watch the vid of the oregon unveiling here http://www.registerg... skip to :50, NOB of the lights out jersey is almost invisible, wtf?

  • JimV19 | June 23, 2009 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”336577″][quote comment=”336574″][quote comment=”336570″]Oops, can’t leave this out.

    So I turn on the TB and there are the Giants playing at the A’s. A’s wearing their black jerseys and hats- first time I’ve seen them. I go, “Aaagh, those things are horrible! Why would they wear black? That’s not part of the color scheme!”

    My wife’s response:
    “You’re such a girl about uniforms.”[/quote]

    She must be an Oregon fan. Green and yellow aren’t good enough; they have to add black too? Just tell her you’re a man who “gets it.”[/quote]
    Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    Depends on how you say it. You may end up not Getting It for a while…

    You Get It, but unless you’re referring to the type of baseball uniform Manny Ramirez wears, you can go a little easy on the sleep wear. They’ll be under covers, after all.

  • mike 2 | June 23, 2009 at 11:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”336577″][quote comment=”336574″][quote comment=”336570″]Oops, can’t leave this out.

    So I turn on the TB and there are the Giants playing at the A’s. A’s wearing their black jerseys and hats- first time I’ve seen them. I go, “Aaagh, those things are horrible! Why would they wear black? That’s not part of the color scheme!”

    My wife’s response:
    “You’re such a girl about uniforms.”[/quote]

    She must be an Oregon fan. Green and yellow aren’t good enough; they have to add black too? Just tell her you’re a man who “gets it.”[/quote]
    Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    I agree with your wife. As long as there’s a top and a bottom, it doesn’t matter if they’re from the same set.

  • Hibbs | June 23, 2009 at 11:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”336567″][quote comment=”336563″][quote comment=”336545″][quote comment=”336539″]In a rather bizarre twist of events in our men’s softball league, our team has finally cleared security clearance for our game tomorrow.

    Now, you might be asking why we would need security clearance. The reason? We’re playing in a prison.

    Without a word of a lie, we play a team of inmates tomorrow evening inside the prison. I’m not sure if they’ll allow me to bring my camera in, but I’m gonna try to get photos if possible.[/quote]

    Out of curiousity, which prison? I’ve been inside Headingly and Stoney (as counsel, not a resident, LOL).[/quote]

    Stony Mountain, Mike. We’re going federal tomorrow.

    What I’d do for a Chico Bail Bonds uniform right about now… LOL[/quote]
    Holy Shit Teebz… Stony Mountain! That’s huge. Uh… good luck then…[/quote]

    Is that where Ricky and Julian always end up?

  • LI Phil | June 23, 2009 at 11:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”336577″]Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    depends…like how badly mismatched were they?

  • Cooper's Dad | June 23, 2009 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”336580″][quote comment=”336577″][quote comment=”336574″][quote comment=”336570″]Oops, can’t leave this out.

    So I turn on the TB and there are the Giants playing at the A’s. A’s wearing their black jerseys and hats- first time I’ve seen them. I go, “Aaagh, those things are horrible! Why would they wear black? That’s not part of the color scheme!”

    My wife’s response:
    “You’re such a girl about uniforms.”[/quote]

    She must be an Oregon fan. Green and yellow aren’t good enough; they have to add black too? Just tell her you’re a man who “gets it.”[/quote]
    Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    I agree with your wife. As long as there’s a top and a bottom, it doesn’t matter if they’re from the same set.[/quote]
    Sorry JTH, I’m with the other two posters….as long as the kids have pajamas ON…that is all that matters really…

  • Dave S | June 23, 2009 at 11:43 pm |

    if you are a fan of charts, you gotta love Edward Tufte

  • Teebz | June 23, 2009 at 11:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”336581″][quote comment=”336567″][quote comment=”336563″][quote comment=”336545″][quote comment=”336539″]In a rather bizarre twist of events in our men’s softball league, our team has finally cleared security clearance for our game tomorrow.

    Now, you might be asking why we would need security clearance. The reason? We’re playing in a prison.

    Without a word of a lie, we play a team of inmates tomorrow evening inside the prison. I’m not sure if they’ll allow me to bring my camera in, but I’m gonna try to get photos if possible.[/quote]

    Out of curiousity, which prison? I’ve been inside Headingly and Stoney (as counsel, not a resident, LOL).[/quote]

    Stony Mountain, Mike. We’re going federal tomorrow.

    What I’d do for a Chico Bail Bonds uniform right about now… LOL[/quote]
    Holy Shit Teebz… Stony Mountain! That’s huge. Uh… good luck then…[/quote]

    Is that where Ricky and Julian always end up?[/quote]

    Porbably not, Hibbs. Stony is a maximum-security prison. There’s a yard where the inmates take BP and have an infield. Apparently, that’s where we play.

    According to a story from one of the other teams, one inmate who plays is serving a life sentence for homicide. And several of the guys are serving shorter sentences for a variety of serious crimes.

    While I’m sure there will be a lot of trash talk from the inmates, I’m not saying a word tomorrow. LOL

  • u2-horn | June 23, 2009 at 11:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”336562″]”finest athletic venue in the world.”
    http://sports.yahoo....

    How BOUT dem Cowboys.
    Now..if we can juuuuuust win a PLAYOFF GAME, Jere..[/quote]

    Can’t wait to see my boys from Dublin there in October.

  • LI Phil | June 24, 2009 at 12:09 am |

    [quote comment=”336587″]Can’t wait to see my boys from Dublin there in October.[/quote]

    the jackies?

    ;)

  • Patrick in MI | June 24, 2009 at 12:21 am |

    [quote comment=”336547″]No pics yet but Brandon Inge of the Detroit Tigers had a young man with a terminal illness (I believe) sign his arm this afternoon and it’s fully visible on his forearm.[/quote]

    And to top it off, Inge hit a homerun in the game!

  • Hibbs | June 24, 2009 at 12:23 am |

    [quote comment=”336586″][quote comment=”336581″][quote comment=”336567″][quote comment=”336563″][quote comment=”336545″][quote comment=”336539″]In a rather bizarre twist of events in our men’s softball league, our team has finally cleared security clearance for our game tomorrow.

    Now, you might be asking why we would need security clearance. The reason? We’re playing in a prison.

    Without a word of a lie, we play a team of inmates tomorrow evening inside the prison. I’m not sure if they’ll allow me to bring my camera in, but I’m gonna try to get photos if possible.[/quote]

    Out of curiousity, which prison? I’ve been inside Headingly and Stoney (as counsel, not a resident, LOL).[/quote]

    Stony Mountain, Mike. We’re going federal tomorrow.

    What I’d do for a Chico Bail Bonds uniform right about now… LOL[/quote]
    Holy Shit Teebz… Stony Mountain! That’s huge. Uh… good luck then…[/quote]

    Is that where Ricky and Julian always end up?[/quote]

    Porbably not, Hibbs. Stony is a maximum-security prison. There’s a yard where the inmates take BP and have an infield. Apparently, that’s where we play.

    According to a story from one of the other teams, one inmate who plays is serving a life sentence for homicide. And several of the guys are serving shorter sentences for a variety of serious crimes.

    While I’m sure there will be a lot of trash talk from the inmates, I’m not saying a word tomorrow. LOL[/quote]

    O contrair (no idea how to spell that, so I went phonetic).
    I’ve always heard that you need to single out the toughest guy, and hit him in the face.
    I am super afraid of going to prison. Even at Christmas time. When jail is awesome.

  • JTH | June 24, 2009 at 1:28 am |

    [quote comment=”336582″][quote comment=”336577″]Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    depends…like how badly mismatched were they?[/quote]
    One was borderline.

    The other one wasn’t even close. Firetruck shirt with bulldozer pants, I think.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I honestly didn’t expect a single serious response to this.

  • Chris | June 24, 2009 at 1:34 am |

    [quote comment=”336591″][quote comment=”336582″][quote comment=”336577″]Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    depends…like how badly mismatched were they?[/quote]
    One was borderline.

    The other one wasn’t even close. Firetruck shirt with bulldozer pants, I think.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I honestly didn’t expect a single serious response to this.[/quote]

    If you have two kids what the hell are you doing posting on uniwatch at 1:30 in the morning, get some sleep man!

  • JTH | June 24, 2009 at 1:42 am |

    [quote comment=”336592″][quote comment=”336591″][quote comment=”336582″][quote comment=”336577″]Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    depends…like how badly mismatched were they?[/quote]
    One was borderline.

    The other one wasn’t even close. Firetruck shirt with bulldozer pants, I think.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I honestly didn’t expect a single serious response to this.[/quote]

    If you have two kids what the hell are you doing posting on uniwatch at 1:30 in the morning, get some sleep man![/quote]
    I’m up late because I was working. And it’s actually 3 kids. I’m going to bed now.

    And hey, it’s only 12:41 where I am.

  • Thomas Clark | June 24, 2009 at 1:42 am |

    [quote comment=”336589″][quote comment=”336547″]No pics yet but Brandon Inge of the Detroit Tigers had a young man with a terminal illness (I believe) sign his arm this afternoon and it’s fully visible on his forearm.[/quote]

    And to top it off, Inge hit a homerun in the game![/quote]

    This needs to be a bigger deal, it’s a pretty cool story.

    And for the record, I hate to say it…but I kind of like the new Oregon garb. I hated the previous models (except the white, loved the all white). The light gray pants look pretty good I have to say.

  • JimV19 | June 24, 2009 at 2:28 am |

    [quote comment=”336592″][quote comment=”336591″][quote comment=”336582″][quote comment=”336577″]Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    depends…like how badly mismatched were they?[/quote]
    One was borderline.

    The other one wasn’t even close. Firetruck shirt with bulldozer pants, I think.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I honestly didn’t expect a single serious response to this.[/quote]

    If you have two kids what the hell are you doing posting on uniwatch at 1:30 in the morning, get some sleep man![/quote]

    That’s the only time to get stuff done, when the kids are asleep.

    Firetruck and bulldozer…they’re both motorized vehicles. I’d side with the wife this time. Now if it was Spiderman and bulldozers, that’s just silly.

  • Ricko | June 24, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”336552″][quote comment=”336461″]Oregon/Nike
    Start with forest and yellow.
    Add black.
    Now add silver?
    Must have been inspired by something Elmer Fudd said,
    “Whoooooaaa…I wuv my Duck Waders.”[/quote]

    It’s easy to shoot your mouth off when you’re sitting at your computer, isn’t it? I invite you to come down to Eugene and tell the players (who designed these) exactly what you type here.

    No? Don’t want to? I can understand. We may wear yellow, but you’re yellow to the core. Pathetic.[/quote]

    What an immature dick. We’re only talking about uniforms. I’ll sit with them anytime to discuss unis and the design philosophy that goes into them. It isn’t an agrument, just discussion of differing approaches to a project. Sorry you have no sense of humor, but I guess you’re looking for a bar fight?

    Not gonna get it from me. Not worth it.

    —Ricko

  • Berto | June 24, 2009 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”336577″][quote comment=”336574″][quote comment=”336570″]Oops, can’t leave this out.

    So I turn on the TB and there are the Giants playing at the A’s. A’s wearing their black jerseys and hats- first time I’ve seen them. I go, “Aaagh, those things are horrible! Why would they wear black? That’s not part of the color scheme!”

    My wife’s response:
    “You’re such a girl about uniforms.”[/quote]

    She must be an Oregon fan. Green and yellow aren’t good enough; they have to add black too? Just tell her you’re a man who “gets it.”[/quote]
    Tonight, my wife told me I was ridiculous because I complained that she put two of the kids in mismatched pajamas. (I mean their tops didn’t match their pants, not that they should have been wearing jammies that match each other.)

    So was I being ridiculous or do I just Get It™?[/quote]

    I’d say you “Get It.” (But I’m new). My wife thinks its funny that I emphasize that I always want my son’s (9 week) socks to match his onesies.