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InSANIty … Part the First

insanity day 1

*see UW party reminder following the main article*

By Phil Hecken, with Don Cristobal del Pastillo (a/k/a “SQL”)

Today I am joined by longtime reader Don Cristobal del Pastillo, who occasionally posts as “SQL,” and who approached me with an interesting uniform suggestion. After several back and forth E-mails, what started as a small, casual undertaking morphed into a full-blown project. I’ll let you meet “SQL” and have him explain:

A devout uniwatcher for years I decided, a short while ago, to make the jump from simple reader to would-be contributor and contacted Phil with the following message:

Hello Phil,

I’ve been a fan of your W-E columns for a while and I think i might have something you might be interested in. A while back I was reflecting on my uniforms tastes and I realized that one of the reasons why the oakland A’s are my favorite MLB team uni-wise is their colored hosiery and particularly the gold sanis.

Being french, I’m not that well versed in the aesthetic history of the major league, but I think that except for a few team wearing black sanis, no other team has ever worn colored socks with stirrups [At which point I referred SQL to Paul’s column which covered the subject in detail–PH].

Then a crazy thought entered my mind: what if other ballclubs went the colored sanis route ? I had to give this a shot and spent the next hour working on visual exemples to back up my technicolor visions. The first bump on the road was finding pictures of current era players wearing stirrups, which proved quite more difficult than I had anticipated. For most teams, I had to settle on 80’s and 70’s photos and unis, which is a sad reminder of the dire situation of the league hosiery state (even though things have been getting brighter lately).

Attached to the message I sent to Phil were a few pics of very debatable quality.

When Phil showed interest in the project and intimated that it could end up being featured in a Weekend column, I decided to go the full monty and create mock up looks for each and every team in the league. Again, finding pictures of stirrup-clad players amounted to looking for a hot date at a mother superior’s funeral (not entirely impossible but incredibly frustrating).

Hell-bent on bringing this thing to fruition I realized that I had no choice but to work from what the Gods of the Internet had sent my way and settled on creating the stirruped look from scratch using an image editing software. After enough photoshopping to kill a medium-to-large forest animal, the easy part was done and so were my retinas.

You’ll find the results of my efforts below. I hope you’ll find it interesting, provoking and in a few cases maybe, even eye-pleasing.

Thanks, SQL. What follows, then, are his efforts. For the presentation of the different teams he went with a simple grade system along the lines of the Good/Stupid litmus we’re all used to round here.

American League East

Orioles: I may be partial here because of my love for anything orange and my dislike of the solid sock look but I really like it, even though I think that it would probably work better with lower cut stirrups. The Two tone cap is a major facilitator in this case as is the fact that the O’s have sported many crazy looks along the years. Grade: A-

Red Sox: I thought this would be one quick way to settle the blue socks/red socks conundrum that followed the adoption of the new roadies but it ended up being a bit of a disappointment. It’s a moot point anyway because nothing will ever look better than the striped stirrups of the Lynn/Yastrzemski era. Grade: C (because it still beats wearing blue socks or those awful santa’s little helper solid red leggings worn by Varitek)

Blue Jays: I think the colored socks work very well here, at the very least because they put a much welcome touch of blue in the Jays uniforms. As with most bright colored socks the low stirrup route is probably the best way to go with these ones. Grade: A

Yankees: The Yankees are a tricky team to mess up with. First their uni is one of the all time classics and second, they only don two colors which makes it quite difficult to mix and match accessories. I decided to give the white-stirrups/navy socks a shot for the hell of it. In the end it doesn’t look THAT bad but it strays to far away from an iconic template to be fully comfortable around it. Grade: D

Rays: The Rays are a challenge of their own because of the overall blandess of their unis. I went with some kind of grayish blue socks here to match the drop shadow on their wordmark before falling asleep on my keyboard. The verdict: ZZZZZZ… Grade: D

American League Central

Royals: Being a sucker for anything powder or baby blue, I devoted the bulk of my efforts to the current Royals alternate and I don’t regret a single minute of my ‘hard’ work. This feels so right that I can’t fathom why the team never gave it a shot (actually I can : ballplayers want to look manly. They want black in their unis not pastel tones. The point has been made quite clearly for years now). The look doesn’t work that well with the all white uni tough, so it would be an alternate only thing. Grade: A+ (Alternate) C- (Regular)

Twins: I know such drastic a change would probably ruffle the feathers of many but I like the red socks look here (way better than on the actual Red Sox, strangely). I think it brings spazz to a uni that’s been clearly lacking in this department for years. I know baseball is a conservative world were old habits die hard if they die at all, but I‘m convinced that such a uni move would put the Twins back in the public eye in a way they can’t hope to achieve through their on-field perfoprmances. Grade: A

Tigers: When it comes to unis, the Tigers are basically ‘Yankees Light’: their home look, as great as it is, doesn’t allow for much variation. I then focused my attention on their road slacks and must sadly admit that even my unconditional love for orange can’t bring me to give the result anything but a thumb down. Grade: D

Indians: Another team whose look seems to change every odd year, the tribe has been clearly at the bottom of the uniform pecking order since the long lost days of Rick Vaughn. I love the move to colored socks for them as it would singularized them among the slew of teams claiming red, white and blue as their colors. Plus, it looks really sweet, ain’t it? Grade: A+

White Sox: Since I can’t even begin to comprehend why a team called the White Sox would insist on wearing black hosiery day in and day out (perhaps as a reminder of their finest hour) I decided to adopt their twisted logic and rig them out with white stirrups. Let’s just say that this look won’t probably be leaving the shelves anytime soon. Grade: F (It would make so much sense if they wore black stirrups over WHITE socks to begin with).

American League West

Mariners: The colored socks look just as bad with the navy top and road grays as white ones would do. I’ts just a poor look to begin with. Coincidently they look just as good as white ones with the home kit. All in all, any kind of stirrups / socks combination would be a good move for the M’s (or nay other MLB team for that matter). Grade: C- (Road) B+ (Home)

Angels: As with all the franchises that went the (basically) bicolour route, fitting the halos with colored sanis amounts to letting a color blind chimp picking your shirt and tie before a job interview. Both yellow and black (which are present in very limited quantities in their logo and wordmark) fail epically here. To be honest I also happen to think that the solid socks paired with the black shoes look equally bad here (call it the Varitek effect). Grade: F-

Athletics: The team that started it all (and would probably have ended it all if I had started my project with this eyesore). Grade: F–

Rangers: Like the Indians, the Lone Star StateTeam has had trouble to make its sartorial mark for years. Are they blue? Are they Red? Are They Bled? Who Knows?
The red socks/blue stirrups combo would be a way to spruce their visual identity up without having to chose between the two colors (something they seem incapable to do, anyway). And you have to admit the look does wonders when paired with their now defunct vest unis. Grade: A (Plus it would look awesome with those to tone helmets…)

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Wow. Thanks SQL. Obviously a tremendous amount of work has gone into this project (and we haven’t even seen what you have cooked up for the National League yet!). I have to say, I think a number of your creations are very interesting. I’d even say a couple of them are worth trying — ok, maybe not, especially since getting 25 guys to wear properly cuffed pants, much less stirrups, isn’t going to be happening anytime soon. I do like the ideas, even if they would probably fail miserably in the actual execution. But the Oakland A’s do it now (when, of course, they actually wear stirrups), and it’s been done in the past (Giants, Brewers, White Sox, Padres, among others).

I personally would disagree with some of SQL’s grades, but that’s OK, because they are only opinions. I have to say, I do like the Orioles look. The problem, to my mind, is that some of these colored sanis only look good with the softball alternate top, and, well … that’s just not something I’d ever advocate. I also like the White Sox pursuing some form of colored sani (as they had in their past — just so long as they never pursue this or this again), and at some point, I will be doing a column addressing this (and other uni suggestions for the Chisox). But back to the colored sanis —

Would this be something we could ever see in the future? Would we even want to? Those of us in Stirrup Nation (TM) will continue to yen for a return of 25 properly stirruped individuals, while we ponder some of the possibilities SQL has created above. What say you Uni Watchers? What do you think?

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reminderIMPORTANT REMINDER regarding the Baltimore party: Remember, tonight’s Uni Watch party in Baltimore will NOT be at Hillendale Lanes. Instead, we’ll be meeting at Racers, tonight from 7pm-9:30pm.

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braves caseThis is what happens when I try to do too many things at once. If you recall yesterday’s column, in which Lance Smith ably detailed the Braves move to Milwaukee, he had provided me with a LOT more information, which I neglected to include in the post. It’s so good, I’m including it now (sorry, Lance).

By 1956. the boosters would be ready to travel to away games in Brooklyn, bringing the cowbell and Hilda.

While Hank Aaron didn’t play in the inauguarl season, he may be the best known Brave. By 1957 he was beginning to lead the leagues in home runs and Life sent a photographer. While Life’s action shots of the period are often sketchy, the more controlled shots of batting practice provide some uni details.

Joe Adcock, Aaron and Eddie Matthews watch Bill Bruton take batting practice. Remember how big those rear pockets are on the old time unis. Adcock has his gloved tucked away in his.

Here are Braves contemplating their bats.

In 1957, the Braves had gone with the Screaming Brave shoulder patch. This had replaced the old Chief patch that had been a part of the uni since Boston.

Nice pic of the back of Aaron’s jersey.

Close up shot of Aaron batting shows details of the Braves jersey. Top half and bottom half. That undershirt looks especially fuzzy. Compare to the one worn by Andy Pafko. (Note that Pafko’s number is just under the placket.)

As a last note, the Wisconsin Historical Society had a Braves exhibit in 2003 to mark the 50th anniversary of the move. This page has photos of the exhibit which includes such paraphernalia as unis, pennants and bobble heads. Check it out.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: I’m ready to give you trying to stump you guys. So I’m bringing in reinforcements. Today’s first scoreboard comes from Pacific Rim Correspondent Jeremy Brahm, who has a scoreboard which just may stump you. Guess The Game, part I. And here’s one you will no doubt get…or maybe, you won’t: Guess The Game, part II

Remember, location, date and final score.

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mls colorsUni Tracking, MLS Style: Many of you, myself included, have been tracking Major League Baseball uniforms. Well, reader Lee Stokes has been tracking soccer uniforms, or at least those of the MLS. Lee explains:
* MLS teams don’t have “home” and “road” uniforms sets, more like “primary” & “secondary”, so games often feature both teams “in color”.

* Many times teams will mix & match shirt, short & sock combination’s.

* FC Dallas actually feature ‘hoops’ (horizontal white stripes) in both their primary & secondary kits. I couldn’t represent that on my sheet.

* Likewise Chivas USA has white vertical stripes on the primary shirt, but their secondary shirt is solid blue.

* I am only tracking MLS regular season games, not games involving MLS teams in other competitions (Open Cup, Champions League, etc…)

Here is a link to his work (you may need an account to view it, but it’s free to sign up). Thanks Lee!

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Uni Watch Ticker: The HHoF Stanley Cup “mystery” has been conclusively solved, as John Muir has found a pic which clearly shows the Hockey Hall of Fame logo. Also from John: “The Isles, not content with just a logo for the “we may fuck this up” party, have made draft party shirts (Like many of us Islander fans, John feels they’d better draft Tavares) … Jake Kubuske climbed on his twitter Wednesday morning, to find the most interesting of promotions is coming up at a Seattle Mariners game. Jake’s not sure if we’re familiar with icanhascheezburger.com but its one of the foremost websites for what are known as LOLCATS. A LOLCAT being a picture of a cat, with a funny caption added onto it. You can see many of them on the icanhascheezburger website. Well apparently if you go to mariners.com/cheezburger and purchase a ticket for the July 9th game, not only is it a special price, but you will get a free icanhascheezburger T-Shirt. The possible designs are available here. Jake thought this promotion was too good to go unmentioned. … Doug Stringham thinks it’s time for UW to do a column on Aussie Rules football unis, writing, “you’ve done columns on Japanese basubol unis and Euro soccer kits, and didn’t you do columns on cycling jerseys and cricket unis too? So I’m thinking it’s time to throw the proverbial shrimp on the bah-bie and skewer—or laud—the unis of the great AFL. And Paul: the socks! The socks!” … Josh Fisher wasn’t sure if we saw this but the Cowboys have an official logo for training camp … Speaking of readers who weren’t sure if we say something, Stan Olechowski feels this is HORRIBLE! The Nashua Pride had one of the more clever logos. Then some people bought them one of them started the US Armed Forces baseball team and “holy fucking shit we have the American Defenders of New Hampshire who play in the Canadian American Association.” Nokona executives are also part of the mangement team so their company name is in the logo. … John Morgan has an observation: “Tuesday, June 16th, at around 5:40 PM, Randy Karraker, Bob Ramsey and D’Marco Farr discussed the practice patches that many NFL teams plan to wear this season — and agreed that they are not worth the investment because no one opens practices.” … Brian Sandalow thought we might be interested in how EA Sports is promoting NCAA Football ’10. On their Web site is a full re-creation of the uniform and program builder that will be in the game — It is very detailed and highly addicting — Says Brian, “This also shows that EA Sports is finally starting to listen to the uni-philes out there, as Madden will also have interchangeable uniform parts. For example, one can wear the Patriots’ Pat Patriot helmet with their current jerset and 1990s pants.” … Inspired by Ryan Connelly’s DIY Steelers helmet, Roberto Santiago has created an A’s “cool flo” two-tone helmet. He explains, “Now I ‘m not as advanced as Ryan and some of the others who have submitted Uni designs in the past. This was my first attempt at this kind of project. The final look of the yellow stripes basically came from letting the lines of the helmet guide the tape to a natural meeting point. I’m pretty happy with the result though I imagine I may get some more paint and touch it up a little at some point. However, in case I get distracted and the touch up never happens I figured I’d send in the pics now. As you can see the tape job wasn’t perfect and I didn’t have a decal required to make a decent stencil so I drew the logo on by hand. All in all not a bad first effort if I’m allowed to say so.” … Trevor Botting asks, “So why no in-depth uni breakdown on the lingerie football league?” I’m not sure if that’s a rhetorical question … Steven Wong notes that the New York Times gets in on the wii tennis uni actionPittsburgh City of Champions Correspondent Doug Keklak asks, “Oh no. Is this an apostrophe catastraphe?” — Not sure, but it’s a spelling catastrophe … Add another Yankee to the patchless: several readers have noticed that Brian Bruney is the latest in the seemingly-growing number of Bombers who are lacking the Yankee Stadium (and also the MLB logo) patch. I could only find this photo from the game, but it doesn’t show the back of his cap — anyone have a photo or screen grab of the patchless cap? … Two down, 102 to go — anyone think Jeter (or someone else ‘beyond reproach’) is on this list? … Bit of a caption error on Reuters last night — I was at the Open yesterday, and I’m pretty sure that was Sergio … West Coast UW Correspondent Brinke Guthrie checks in with this bit of serendipity: seems as though Nike did a Van Halen cover and the boys didn’t like someone ripping off their work … Finally, ASU alum Mark Altieri checks in with this: “My Sun Devils wore 1981 (the last year that ASU won the College World Series) throwback uniforms last night. Unfortunately they blew a big lead and lost to Texas. You have got to love the gold sanitaries with the maroon stirrups. A thing of beauty.”

 

183 comments to InSANIty … Part the First

  • SlimAndSlam | June 17, 2009 at 7:10 am |

    Got the second scoreboard:

    http://www.retroshee...

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 7:36 am |

    Puck Daddy went to the source regarding the new logo on the bottom of the Stanley Cup.

    I guess I’m not a big enough player to get an answer yet. LOL

  • -Vince | June 17, 2009 at 7:57 am |

    Lord Stanley’s Chalice explained…

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • dwight | June 17, 2009 at 8:15 am |

    HELP NEEDED

    I am trying to design a baseball jersey (online), and need a good website that will actually show my design as it would look in real life.

    Thanks UWers.

  • Wes | June 17, 2009 at 8:17 am |

    The first one is easy. That was taken on March 25th, 2008, the Red Sox vs. the Boston Athletics. The season started in Japan that year. Final Score? Red Sox 6, A’s 5.

  • Wes | June 17, 2009 at 8:18 am |

    And it was at the Tokyo Dome in Tokyo, Japan.

  • floormaster squeeze | June 17, 2009 at 8:45 am |

    Pride comes before the fall.

  • union jack | June 17, 2009 at 8:46 am |

    “Bit of a caption error on Reuters last night”

    Especially since Weir plays from the other side of the ball.

  • leon | June 17, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”335432″]Pride comes before the fall.[/quote]

    to be painfully accurate, it’s “pride goeth before the fall”. based on proverbs 16:18

    just sayin’…..

  • JimV19 | June 17, 2009 at 9:02 am |

    SQL, I have to say I love the orange socks on the Tigers – maybe even more than on the Orioles. Otherwise I pretty much agreed with your grades for all your hard work. The only other thing I would add is this: Red Sox and White Sox should always have Red and White socks respectively, or change your name.

  • Kenny | June 17, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    Mike Weir is a left handed golfer. Reuters fail!

  • JimV19 | June 17, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    Lee, thanks for tracking the MLS unis. Apparently San Jose has decided to become DC West, according to your spreadsheet (which looks like a game of Tetris or Breakout, by the way…).
    Wish I was able to see more of their games.

  • leon | June 17, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    speaking of eddie matthews….

    http://upload.wikime...

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 17, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    Wes,

    Good catch. I was a little surprised with the scoreboard because they will usually put the team logos at the beginning of the box score. Or they will use the first letter of team name. S for Seattle or A for Atlanta.

  • scott | June 17, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    It was either no pro ball in Nashua or the American Defenders, with their head to toe camo uniforms. So while a clever logo has been lost, and the team does look ridiculous, at least the city still has a team.

  • Joe Hilseberg | June 17, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    Should we hang a sign outside of Hillendale Lanes about the change of venue in case someone hasn’t been to the site in a few days?

    I don’t know how long they would leave it up, but it may help.

    Do any of you who are coming tonight pass it on the way to Racers?

  • Jim | June 17, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    I have a question about the much beloved stirrup socks: What purpose do they serve? I remember wearing them in little league, in the 1970s, and thinking they were a waste of time (sacrilege, I know). Yes they add color to the uniform, but is there a functional reason for them? Was there ever a functional reason for them?

  • Frosty | June 17, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    Great catch by Doug Keklak…that’s here in Myrtle Beach – been bothering me since Paul started all of this…

  • mike | June 17, 2009 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”335429″]HELP NEEDED

    I am trying to design a baseball jersey (online), and need a good website that will actually show my design as it would look in real life.

    Thanks UWers.[/quote]

    go to baseballexpress.com a look for the tab titled uniform creator

  • RS Rogers | June 17, 2009 at 9:32 am |

    Great work on the colored sanis. Good proof of concept. Obviously not for every team, but there’s definitely room for a few clubs to go this route. Of course, first you’d have to find team ownership and management with the guts to insist that players actually wear their uniforms …

    Anyway, if the Angels went this route, shouldn’t they wear two slightly different shades of red, as in their cap logo?

  • ASM | June 17, 2009 at 9:33 am |

    So how do we all feel about black socks with red stirrups. specifically a youth 4″ stirrup. (its for my son)

  • JimV19 | June 17, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    I too would enjoy a look at the Australian Football unis. I remember the days when ESPN used to show the Aussie League and the CFL…instead of poker and endless repeats of SportsCenter. I wonder if the Australian officials still wear the snazzy suits and hats.

  • Mike Engle | June 17, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”335446″]So how do we all feel about black socks with red stirrups. specifically a youth 4″ stirrup. (its for my son)[/quote]
    Meh. Not enough contrast. I dislike that idea.

  • SQL | June 17, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”335442″]I have a question about the much beloved stirrup socks: What purpose do they serve? I remember wearing them in little league, in the 1970s, and thinking they were a waste of time (sacrilege, I know). Yes they add color to the uniform, but is there a functional reason for them? Was there ever a functional reason for them?[/quote]

    I think that back in the day, the chemicals employed to dye the socks were toxic and potentially dangerous in case of injuries. So the teams had to wear white sanis and used the stirrups to add color to their hosiery…

  • u2-horn | June 17, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    Yeah, that is Sergio.

  • u2-horn | June 17, 2009 at 9:36 am |

    My stirrup question–

    Why are they made so that there is a potential to wear them “backwards”? Why aren’t the arches the same height on both sides?

  • drewdez | June 17, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    Scoreboard #2: http://www.baseball-...

  • Bob Sullivan | June 17, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    Watched the Phillies/Blue Jays game last night. I’m sure some one else has said it, but those Blue Jays unis are a horror show. I’m looking at the back of the jerseys, and the NOB doesn’t even come CLOSE to matching the number, in style, color, piping, anything. The numbers are a narrow dark blue with trim, the NOB is a wide light blue with almost no trim. It’s looks as if one company created the letters and another company created the numbers, and when both sets arrived in Toronto or Dunedin or whatever, the team said, “Oh crap!” and then said, “What the hell, let’s use ’em anyway. Sew ’em on.”

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”335448″][quote comment=”335446″]So how do we all feel about black socks with red stirrups. specifically a youth 4″ stirrup. (its for my son)[/quote]
    Meh. Not enough contrast. I dislike that idea.[/quote]
    Plus, with the 4″ stirrup, you wouldn’t even see much of the black, so what’s the point?

  • dwight | June 17, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”335444″][quote comment=”335429″]HELP NEEDED

    I am trying to design a baseball jersey (online), and need a good website that will actually show my design as it would look in real life.

    Thanks UWers.[/quote]

    go to baseballexpress.com a look for the tab titled uniform creator[/quote]

    gracias!

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    So Mark (or anyone else who might know)…

    About those ′81 Sun Devils unis: did they actually wear belts back then or was it elastic waistbands on the pants?

  • chance michaels | June 17, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”335440″]It was either no pro ball in Nashua or the American Defenders, with their head to toe camo uniforms. So while a clever logo has been lost, and the team does look ridiculous, at least the city still has a team.[/quote]
    Is using the Nokona wordmark in the team logo part of that bargain? Either shill for the company or “no pro ball in Nashua”?

    Where exactly does that argument end?

  • elliott | June 17, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    good to see weir is ambidextrous.

    (oh. already noted!)

  • John | June 17, 2009 at 10:19 am |

    While not confirmed, some news websites have been reporting that players on the Iranian national soccer team wore green wristbands in solidarity with Mousavi. Apparently, they come out without the wristbands for the second half.

    http://www.cbc.ca/sp...
    http://www.jpost.com...

  • Mark K | June 17, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    I used to watch tons of that Aussie Football back in the day. I even figured out some of the rules after a while. We do need a uni summary.

  • LI Phil | June 17, 2009 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”335442″]I have a question about the much beloved stirrup socks: What purpose do they serve? I remember wearing them in little league, in the 1970s, and thinking they were a waste of time (sacrilege, I know). Yes they add color to the uniform, but is there a functional reason for them? Was there ever a functional reason for them?[/quote]

    this should answer your questions (was linked in main article)

    ——-

    in re: sergio/weir…yeah, i know that’s sergio (was trying to be funny — me fail) … actually followed BOTH weir and sergio around yesterday for a couple of holes — assuming the pics come out, will have something on that (and rory’s very mellow belt buckle) in a few days…

  • timmy b | June 17, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    I noticed the current (not new. it’s been around – i’m thinking – in the neighborhood of 10 years) HHOF logo on the underside of the Stanley Cup during the passing of the Cup after the Pens win. The torch/maple leaf logo the HHOF had from ever since I could remember has long since been replaced by the skating silhouette a long time ago, yet it remained under the barrel. I wondered why.

    Good to see the update, but I’ll miss the torch & leaf…

  • murph | June 17, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    the EA NCAA Website IS the team creator. you do it on the web and it shows up in the game.

  • scott | June 17, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”335459″][quote comment=”335440″]It was either no pro ball in Nashua or the American Defenders, with their head to toe camo uniforms. So while a clever logo has been lost, and the team does look ridiculous, at least the city still has a team.[/quote]
    Is using the Nokona wordmark in the team logo part of that bargain? Either shill for the company or “no pro ball in Nashua”?
    Where exactly does that argument end?[/quote]

    The logo shown on the Wikipedia site is not the logo that is used on the team’s merchandise at the park. The words “New Hampshire” replace the “Nokona” wordmark, as can be seen here:

    http://www.americand...

  • Steve Naismith | June 17, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    This post makes me want to vomit. Every single mock-up is far worse with stirrups than solid socks, and every mock-up with stirrups and colored socks underneath is far worse than the white socks and stirrups. Insanity indeed.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 17, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”335447″]I too would enjoy a look at the Australian Football unis. I remember the days when ESPN used to show the Aussie League and the CFL…instead of poker and endless repeats of SportsCenter. I wonder if the Australian officials still wear the snazzy suits and hats.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”335462″]I used to watch tons of that Aussie Football back in the day. I even figured out some of the rules after a while. We do need a uni summary.[/quote]

    I’ll probably do it later in the summer, I’ve got a couple of things that I’m working on for some weekend columns.

    As for the goal judges, they don’t wear the lab coats any more.

    http://1.bp.blogspot...

    Here is the lab coat of a female goal umpire, Katrina Morris
    http://www-static.sp...

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”335469″]This post makes me want to vomit. Every single mock-up is far worse with stirrups than solid socks, and every mock-up with stirrups and colored socks underneath is far worse than the white socks and stirrups. Insanity indeed.[/quote]
    And yet you continued to click on the links…

    Insanity indeed?

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 17, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    Here is a picture of the green wristbands for Iran. Actually looks like tape
    http://www.fifa.com/...

    Here are others who did not
    http://www.fifa.com/...

  • Big Jake | June 17, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    No idea on the 1st scoreboard, but the 2nd one is http://www.retroshee...

  • drewdez | June 17, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    Scoreboard #1: http://www.baseball-...

  • Jim Bullard | June 17, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    Could someone catch me up on the Stirrups Nation? I missed a few days of posts here and there, and am afraid I’m out in the cold!

    Another great Phil post. I’ll have to send in a picture of myself in my softball stirrups. I wear maroon stirrups with light blue sanis…I get compliments every week.

  • Josie | June 17, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    Wow am I the first to get the first scoreboard? Yay!
    Scoreboard I
    Scoreboard II

  • Josie | June 17, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    Wow am I the first to get the first scoreboard? Yay!
    Scoreboard I
    Scoreboard II

    edit: whoop. now the links work, and apparently i got scooped looking for #2

  • Ryno | June 17, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    HELP NEEDED

    I am trying to design a baseball jersey (online), and need a good website that will actually show my design as it would look in real life.

    Thanks UWers.

    Try this site:
    http://www.tagteamun...

  • Matt | June 17, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    I know I’m a couple days late on “uniform secrets” topic, but, to borrow a Tom McGuane line, that won’t stop me. We’ve spent several days hashing this out at work, and the uni set that always bothers me are the Tigers whites. Over rated and even as a kid growing up in metro Detroit, I never understood why the old English ‘D’ on the jersey doesn’t match the hat. Always strange to me to see a team wearing two different versions of one of the more hallowed logos in baseball.

    BTW, loved the ASU throwbacks!

  • leon | June 17, 2009 at 11:26 am |

    White / Colored Sanis Comparison

    http://lcweb2.loc.go...

    words can be tricky

  • SQL | June 17, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”335480″]White / Colored Sanis Comparison

    http://lcweb2.loc.go...

    words can be tricky[/quote]

    Being French these words don’t carry the same weight for me. If I have offended anybody, I apologize.

  • JSS | June 17, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    Up for grabs is an authentic VINTAGE 70S LG PITT PANTHERS JERSEY T-SHIRT IN EXCELLENT CONDITION MEASURES 18 WIDE AND 26 LONG.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/... ERSEY-T-SHIRT_W0QQitemZ120435542050QQcmdZViewItemQ QptZVintage_Unisex_T_Shirts?hash=item1c0a848822&am p;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A 2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A2|294% 3A50

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    Joe Adcock, Aaron and Eddie Matthews watch Bill Bruton take batting practice. Remember how big those rear pockets are on the old time unis. Adcock has his gloved tucked away in his.
    A question for our resident Life guru, Squiddie: have you ever run across any pictures from the era when players would leave their gloveds on the field as they went in for their turn at bat? I’m looking for a little visual proof.

    I tell people that this was common into the 1930’s if not the 1940’s; and all they do is lock up the beer coolers on me…

  • Wes | June 17, 2009 at 11:43 am |

    Interesting that the subject of sani colors came up today. I was at the Twins/Pirates game at the Dome last night and saw Nyjer Morgan’s stirrups first-hand – black stirrups over white sanis. While I like the look in general, it didn’t really work with the gray road unis – there is no other white anywhere else so it didn’t feel like the socks tied in with the rest of the uni. I wondered if gray or yellow sanis would look better.

  • MLB2PDX | June 17, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    “Two down, 102 to go”

    Not sure if Jeter used steroids, per say, but I would not be surprised at all if he has used something else illegal at some point (“Uppers”, or whatever they’re called). How about Rivera? A lot of closers/RP’s of that time? I still maintain that more RP’s used than people think. They need to recover the most. A few bad games in a two-week period, and you’re out of a job.

    I love how the test was supposed to be confidential for the players, and how certain names are leaking out with interesting timing. I also love how MLB flat out used McGwire/Sosa to put baseball back on the map, and now condemn them. You’re telling me that MLB didn’t know of steroid use at that time?? Give me a break.

    It’s interesting to look back at this list and say “what about him?”
    http://www.baseball-... (sorry, not good with the tags. What happened to the easy to use buttons that used to be on here?!)

  • MLB2PDX | June 17, 2009 at 11:46 am |

    Well nevermind! It linked itself. Haven’t posted in awhile (rarely do). Nice to see.

  • chance michaels | June 17, 2009 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”335485″]I love how the test was supposed to be confidential for the players, and how certain names are leaking out with interesting timing. I also love how MLB flat out used McGwire/Sosa to put baseball back on the map, and now condemn them. You’re telling me that MLB didn’t know of steroid use at that time?? Give me a break.
    [/quote]
    Of course they knew it – that was the whole point of the 2003 test. Baseball got the union to agree to a broad drug testing policy if more than a certain percentage of players tested positive in a Leagues-wide, consequence-free test.

    MLB wanted testing. They knew that the positive tests would surpass the percentage threshold. That’s why they did it in the first place.

    Here’s the problem I have with these leaks – we do know that some players refused to take the test, knowing full well that it would be marked as a “positive” and their own union would be forced to allow regular testing. What we don’t know is whether the List reflects those tests as refusals or as regular positives. It is possible that should all the names come out, some players might be tarred for trying to do the right thing.

  • mtjaws | June 17, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    I liked the Twins and Indians mockups best, with a slight like of the home Mariners teal socks. Quite a few of them don’t work at all, but it was nice to see how bad they’d be.

    Good tests, SQL.

  • JSS | June 17, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    Custom Uniform Builder for those interested.
    http://www.footballa...

    Have Fun!

  • LI Phil | June 17, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”335475″]Could someone catch me up on the Stirrups Nation? I missed a few days of posts here and there, and am afraid I’m out in the cold![/quote]

    Not sure when exactly it started, or who coined the term, but basically “stirrup nation” refers to the growing legion of ball players who are sporting the leggings…

    [quote]Another great Phil post.[/quote]

    heh…thanks…all credit in the main story is due to SQL though…many times i do a story i work in depth with a reader, and we run through several drafts and such, but for this one, basically SQL did all the work (although, with coding and such, it still took me a little while to ready it)…his idea, though, from beginning to end (and there’s more — we still have the NL piece which will run at a future date)

    [quote]I’ll have to send in a picture of myself in my softball stirrups. I wear maroon stirrups with light blue sanis…I get compliments every week.[/quote]

    sweet…sounds sort of like the leg stylings of robert marshall’s softball team too

  • MLB2PDX | June 17, 2009 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”335487″][quote comment=”335485″]I love how the test was supposed to be confidential for the players, and how certain names are leaking out with interesting timing. I also love how MLB flat out used McGwire/Sosa to put baseball back on the map, and now condemn them. You’re telling me that MLB didn’t know of steroid use at that time?? Give me a break.
    [/quote]
    Of course they knew it – that was the whole point of the 2003 test. Baseball got the union to agree to a broad drug testing policy if more than a certain percentage of players tested positive in a Leagues-wide, consequence-free test.

    MLB wanted testing. They knew that the positive tests would surpass the percentage threshold. That’s why they did it in the first place.

    Here’s the problem I have with these leaks – we do know that some players refused to take the test, knowing full well that it would be marked as a “positive” and their own union would be forced to allow regular testing. What we don’t know is whether the List reflects those tests as refusals or as regular positives. It is possible that should all the names come out, some players might be tarred for trying to do the right thing.[/quote]

    No, I understand. I just meant how Selig (and others) are now “disgusted and disappointed” whenever they are interviewed by someone. MLB needs to blame itself, not just the players. MLB is now so proud of itself to have testing in place…after it used Ripken/McGwire/Sosa/Bonds as much as possible to get fans to forget about the strike, etc.

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”335487″]MLB wanted testing. They knew that the positive tests would surpass the percentage threshold. That’s why they did it in the first place.[/quote]
    When the first tests started (it was during Spring Training) the idea was that if enough players failed the entire population would have to be tested; and someone on the White Sox noticed the rule that if you refused to be tested it would be considered a failed drug test. So he talked everyone on the Sox into simply refusing to be tested: his idea was that if enough players protested this way, the testing would have to be expanded. And then…the Players Union went down and persuaded the Sox representatives to go along with the program. And we all know what happened: MLB happily pronounced itself “drug-free, just like we told you” and went on its merry way.

    Living in Chicago, I am simply astounded by how much media coverage this got both last night and this morning. Is there anyone out there who DIDN’T think Sosa was ‘roided up?

  • latrell | June 17, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”335478″]HELP NEEDED

    I am trying to design a baseball jersey (online), and need a good website that will actually show my design as it would look in real life.

    Thanks UWers.

    Try this site:
    http://www.tagteamun...

    Hey Ryno, have you looked at the Saxon Athletic site? They have a U-DO-IT section which I think is real sweet:

    http://www.saxonathl...

  • JimV19 | June 17, 2009 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”335494″][quote comment=”335478″]HELP NEEDED

    I am trying to design a baseball jersey (online), and need a good website that will actually show my design as it would look in real life.

    Thanks UWers.

    Try this site:
    http://www.tagteamun...

    Hey Ryno, have you looked at the Saxon Athletic site? They have a U-DO-IT section which I think is real sweet:

    http://www.saxonathl...

    Well, there goes my day…I clicked on these out of curiosity, and now I’ll probably be playing with them until I have to leave. Thanks for the links, guys!

  • PBurland23 | June 17, 2009 at 12:42 pm |

    I was at the Phillies/Jays last night and I happened to notice that Marco Scutaro was wearing Jose Bautista’s helmet in the 1st inning. Is this normal?

  • dkgator | June 17, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”335484″]Interesting that the subject of sani colors came up today. I was at the Twins/Pirates game at the Dome last night and saw Nyjer Morgan’s stirrups first-hand – black stirrups over white sanis. While I like the look in general, it didn’t really work with the gray road unis – there is no other white anywhere else so it didn’t feel like the socks tied in with the rest of the uni. I wondered if gray or yellow sanis would look better.[/quote]

    I couldn’t agree more, I generally don’t like seeing white sanitaries with grey pants.

    When we play our road games I wear colored sani’s with my stirrups. http://sports.websho...

  • Johnny Bacardi | June 17, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    Sigh. Everybody’s always gotta take shots at those 70’s White Sox unis.

  • Ricko | June 17, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”335497″][quote comment=”335484″]Interesting that the subject of sani colors came up today. I was at the Twins/Pirates game at the Dome last night and saw Nyjer Morgan’s stirrups first-hand – black stirrups over white sanis. While I like the look in general, it didn’t really work with the gray road unis – there is no other white anywhere else so it didn’t feel like the socks tied in with the rest of the uni. I wondered if gray or yellow sanis would look better.[/quote]

    I couldn’t agree more, I generally don’t like seeing white sanitaries with grey pants.

    When we play our road games I wear colored sani’s with my stirrups. http://sports.websho...

    I take it you also disapprove of the bottom portion NFL team socks being white?

    —Ricko

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 12:57 pm |

    Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker

  • Mike Engle | June 17, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]
    Hey, thanks for nothing, troll.
    Paul’s on vacation, so Phil’s continuing his fine job keeping the content alive, the discussion lively, and the reader input flowing. (Notice all these co-authors? It’s a community. Not Lukas World.)
    If not for Phil, this website would be on vacation with Paul, and you wouldn’t even have your Ticker.
    You can have your opinion, but do count your blessings. (And here’s my opinion on you: you’re off base and I think Phil deserves an apology from you.)

  • Chris | June 17, 2009 at 1:13 pm |

    Scoreboard I: Heck, you can even tell that Mark Ellis is at plate when the pic was taken…not all that difficult!

  • chance michaels | June 17, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”335493″][quote comment=”335487″]MLB wanted testing. They knew that the positive tests would surpass the percentage threshold. That’s why they did it in the first place.[/quote]
    When the first tests started (it was during Spring Training) the idea was that if enough players failed the entire population would have to be tested; and someone on the White Sox noticed the rule that if you refused to be tested it would be considered a failed drug test. So he talked everyone on the Sox into simply refusing to be tested: his idea was that if enough players protested this way, the testing would have to be expanded. And then…the Players Union went down and persuaded the Sox representatives to go along with the program. And we all know what happened: MLB happily pronounced itself “drug-free, just like we told you” and went on its merry way.
    [/quote]
    Which test are you talking about?

    The 2003 test resulted in enough positives to trigger MLB’s wide testing program. Far from saying they were drug-free, MLB said “see, just we told you, we need wider testing because too many pklayers are using drugs.”

  • Ricko | June 17, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    Same observation I’ve made before: Who likes the SI cover story every single issue? Still read the rest of mag, though, don’t we.

    Can we assume you’re volunteering to take a shot at writing the lead pieces on weekends? I’m sure it takes no work and there’s very little pressure. (eyeroll)

    —Ricko

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”335504″][quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    Same observation I’ve made before: Who likes the SI cover story every single issue? Still read the rest of mag, though, don’t we.

    Can we assume you’re volunteering to take a shot at writing the lead pieces on weekends? I’m sure it takes no work and there’s very little pressure. (eyeroll)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Or start your own site where I can come over and bitch and complain about how your articles suck. Because if they are anything like your comments, you suck.

    There’s criticism, constructive criticism, and flat-out jackassedness. You fall into the latter, Mr. Jones.

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    hey, is that an ad for the Rockettes on the WGN Budweiser Bud Light Horseshoe Casino house?

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”335501″][quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]
    Hey, thanks for nothing, troll.
    Paul’s on vacation, so Phil’s continuing his fine job keeping the content alive, the discussion lively, and the reader input flowing. (Notice all these co-authors? It’s a community. Not Lukas World.)
    If not for Phil, this website would be on vacation with Paul, and you wouldn’t even have your Ticker.
    You can have your opinion, but do count your blessings. (And here’s my opinion on you: you’re off base and I think Phil deserves an apology from you.)[/quote]

    Haha! Mike you are an idiot. I’m not a troll at all, I just very rarely post. In fact, I’m a charter Uni Watch member (#23 Brian Jones). But my apologies, Phil, it wasn’t an attack on you. I guess I’ll post more comments in the future to avoid confusion for Mr. Engle.

  • TommyD | June 17, 2009 at 1:37 pm |

    I was at Phils/Jays last night as well

    The Jays were wearing these caps

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    what the hell is that?

    hideous

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 17, 2009 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    I have written some articles for the site and you can’t just do them in a day. My Japanese uniforms that we had over a weekend took like three to five days organize and write, and then a mad dash with Phil late at night to make sure the links worked right and it they didn’t then how could we get around it.

    Some of us have jobs and can’t just drop work and do an article. Paul does a lot of outside stuff, the Candelas, dining reviews, ESPN columns, etc. Phil does a good job holding down the fort on weekends. If you feel that you want to write an article, Phil will probably be more than glad to let your write.

    The research is much more difficult than you think. I am amazed at what I can find online, but sometimes the information is just not there.

    Such as can anyone find a picture of the Purdue Boilermaker train pattern on their basketball uniforms in the 1990s.

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=\”335504\”][quote comment=\”335500\”]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    Same observation I’ve made before: Who likes the SI cover story every single issue? Still read the rest of mag, though, don’t we.

    Can we assume you’re volunteering to take a shot at writing the lead pieces on weekends? I’m sure it takes no work and there’s very little pressure. (eyeroll)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Wow everyone is sooooo defensive. And yeah I could photoshop a whole bunch of stirrups. Shit, I’ll even make an entry showing what it would be like if everyone wore robes instead of uniforms. I’ll take the rest of work off to head home now…

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”335505″][quote comment=”335504″][quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    Same observation I’ve made before: Who likes the SI cover story every single issue? Still read the rest of mag, though, don’t we.

    Can we assume you’re volunteering to take a shot at writing the lead pieces on weekends? I’m sure it takes no work and there’s very little pressure. (eyeroll)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Or start your own site where I can come over and bitch and complain about how your articles suck. Because if they are anything like your comments, you suck.

    There’s criticism, constructive criticism, and flat-out jackassedness. You fall into the latter, Mr. Jones.[/quote]

    Wow! You too? God forbid I have an opinion!!!!

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”335509″][quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    I have written some articles for the site and you can’t just do them in a day. My Japanese uniforms that we had over a weekend took like three to five days organize and write, and then a mad dash with Phil late at night to make sure the links worked right and it they didn’t then how could we get around it.

    Some of us have jobs and can’t just drop work and do an article. Paul does a lot of outside stuff, the Candelas, dining reviews, ESPN columns, etc. Phil does a good job holding down the fort on weekends. If you feel that you want to write an article, Phil will probably be more than glad to let your write.

    The research is much more difficult than you think. I am amazed at what I can find online, but sometimes the information is just not there.

    Such as can anyone find a picture of the Purdue Boilermaker train pattern on their basketball uniforms in the 1990s.[/quote]

    Just to respond again… Why is my opinion (and basically saying I appreciate what Paul provides) such a big deal to you???

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”335511″]
    Wow! You too? God forbid I have an opinion!!!![/quote]

    When expressing an “opinion”, try to make it a little less harsh. Or, in this case, a lot less harsh.

    And yeah, I’ll go to bat for Phil and/or Paul when it comes to a free blog. I may not enjoy every single article that they post, but they cater to a larger audience than one person. And if something interests them, they write about it.

    That’s kind of how blogs work in case you missed most of the dot-com era.

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=\”335512\”][quote comment=\”335509\”][quote comment=\”335500\”]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    I have written some articles for the site and you can’t just do them in a day. My Japanese uniforms that we had over a weekend took like three to five days organize and write, and then a mad dash with Phil late at night to make sure the links worked right and it they didn’t then how could we get around it.

    Some of us have jobs and can’t just drop work and do an article. Paul does a lot of outside stuff, the Candelas, dining reviews, ESPN columns, etc. Phil does a good job holding down the fort on weekends. If you feel that you want to write an article, Phil will probably be more than glad to let your write.

    The research is much more difficult than you think. I am amazed at what I can find online, but sometimes the information is just not there.

    Such as can anyone find a picture of the Purdue Boilermaker train pattern on their basketball uniforms in the 1990s.[/quote]

    Just to respond again… Why is my opinion (and basically saying I appreciate what Paul provides) such a big deal to you???[/quote]

    Oh and I wasn’t even commenting on the weekend entries, for all I know they are amazing. I have a life on the weekend. BTW I have a job, but I try to check the site out every weekday for USEFUL info

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”335514″]
    Oh and I wasn’t even commenting on the weekend entries, for all I know they are amazing. I have a life on the weekend. BTW I have a job, but I try to check the site out every weekday for USEFUL info[/quote]

    And yet you continually slap Phil across the face with your tone and disdain. For example, see the quoted text above.

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”335513″][quote comment=”335511″]
    Wow! You too? God forbid I have an opinion!!!![/quote]

    When expressing an “opinion”, try to make it a little less harsh. Or, in this case, a lot less harsh.

    And yeah, I’ll go to bat for Phil and/or Paul when it comes to a free blog. I may not enjoy every single article that they post, but they cater to a larger audience than one person. And if something interests them, they write about it.

    That’s kind of how blogs work in case you missed most of the dot-com era.[/quote]

    Wow you really got me with that last line… a real zinger. Not too many pay-to-read blogs out there, but I’m sure you are used to pay sites :-D

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”335512″][quote comment=”335509″][quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    I have written some articles for the site and you can’t just do them in a day. My Japanese uniforms that we had over a weekend took like three to five days organize and write, and then a mad dash with Phil late at night to make sure the links worked right and it they didn’t then how could we get around it.

    Some of us have jobs and can’t just drop work and do an article. Paul does a lot of outside stuff, the Candelas, dining reviews, ESPN columns, etc. Phil does a good job holding down the fort on weekends. If you feel that you want to write an article, Phil will probably be more than glad to let your write.

    The research is much more difficult than you think. I am amazed at what I can find online, but sometimes the information is just not there.

    Such as can anyone find a picture of the Purdue Boilermaker train pattern on their basketball uniforms in the 1990s.[/quote]

    Just to respond again… Why is my opinion (and basically saying I appreciate what Paul provides) such a big deal to you???[/quote]
    I’m not taking sides on this one. You’re certainly entitled to express your opinions, as are the folks who’ve gotten involved already. But you admit that you seldom add comments here despite being a charter member. Then you come on here to post a comment about how lousy the main entries have been lately. Do you really not understand why some of the regular contributors might take umbrage to that?

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”335515″][quote comment=”335514″]
    Oh and I wasn’t even commenting on the weekend entries, for all I know they are amazing. I have a life on the weekend. BTW I have a job, but I try to check the site out every weekday for USEFUL info[/quote]

    And yet you continually slap Phil across the face with your tone and disdain. For example, see the quoted text above.[/quote]

    Actually i was slapping Don Cristobal del Pastillo across the face, since he provided almost the entire entry

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”335517″][quote comment=”335512″][quote comment=”335509″][quote comment=”335500″]Wow the main entries on this site have been horrible lately… Paul we need you back to doing entries as soon as possible!!!

    PS. thank goodness for the ticker[/quote]

    I have written some articles for the site and you can’t just do them in a day. My Japanese uniforms that we had over a weekend took like three to five days organize and write, and then a mad dash with Phil late at night to make sure the links worked right and it they didn’t then how could we get around it.

    Some of us have jobs and can’t just drop work and do an article. Paul does a lot of outside stuff, the Candelas, dining reviews, ESPN columns, etc. Phil does a good job holding down the fort on weekends. If you feel that you want to write an article, Phil will probably be more than glad to let your write.

    The research is much more difficult than you think. I am amazed at what I can find online, but sometimes the information is just not there.

    Such as can anyone find a picture of the Purdue Boilermaker train pattern on their basketball uniforms in the 1990s.[/quote]

    Just to respond again… Why is my opinion (and basically saying I appreciate what Paul provides) such a big deal to you???[/quote]
    I’m not taking sides on this one. You’re certainly entitled to express your opinions, as are the folks who’ve gotten involved already. But you admit that you seldom add comments here despite being a charter member. Then you come on here to post a comment about how lousy the main entries have been lately. Do you really not understand why some of the regular contributors might take umbrage to that?[/quote]

    I do, but that wasn’t my intent. I assumed they would see I was saying “we miss your stuff Paul”…but they didn’t. OK I’m slacking too much today, I’ll check back later if my rights haven’t been revoked :-/

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”335506″]hey, is that an ad for the Rockettes on the WGN Budweiser Bud Light Horseshoe Casino house?[/quote]
    Again, showing off that superior monitor. :-)

    Hey JTH, how much do you think that house is worth??

    IIRC, it was over $8 million. For a frame house. Holy Cow! Put that thing about half a mile north and what would it be worth?

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”335509″]…can anyone find a picture of the Purdue Boilermaker train pattern on their basketball uniforms in the 1990s.[/quote]If you find a pic of the more recent women’s tournament final between PU and MSU, you’ll see both a motif that’s reminiscent of the “Spartans” era as well as that train track pattern. :-)

  • Lee | June 17, 2009 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”335437″]Lee, thanks for tracking the MLS unis. Apparently San Jose has decided to become DC West, according to your spreadsheet (which looks like a game of Tetris or Breakout, by the way…).
    Wish I was able to see more of their games.[/quote]

    I wish I had tracked the last couple seasons because from just eyeballing it, it does seem the monochromatic kit is making a comeback this season in MLS overall. But no way I can can compare to 2008 or 2007.

    Thanks Phil for running it!

    Lee

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”335516″][quote comment=”335513″][quote comment=”335511″]
    Wow! You too? God forbid I have an opinion!!!![/quote]

    When expressing an “opinion”, try to make it a little less harsh. Or, in this case, a lot less harsh.

    And yeah, I’ll go to bat for Phil and/or Paul when it comes to a free blog. I may not enjoy every single article that they post, but they cater to a larger audience than one person. And if something interests them, they write about it.

    That’s kind of how blogs work in case you missed most of the dot-com era.[/quote]

    Wow you really got me with that last line… a real zinger. Not too many pay-to-read blogs out there, but I’m sure you are used to pay sites :-D[/quote]

    Perhaps you don’t know that there are a large number of sites that change you for information that you receive here for free?

    Unless, y’know, “b.jones#23” is code for “Al Gore”… since he invented the internet. In that case, you might know.

    [quote comment=”335518”]
    Actually i was slapping Don Cristobal del Pastillo across the face, since he provided almost the entire entry[/quote]

    And since Phil provided the rest, would you like to contact him and tell him that Don’s efforts didn’t meet your standards? Forget the 40 or so comments in the debate of coloured sanitaries. They don’t matter.

    All that matters to this site is YOUR opinion on sports. Right. Gotcha.

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”335520″][quote comment=”335506″]hey, is that an ad for the Rockettes on the WGN Budweiser Bud Light Horseshoe Casino house?[/quote]
    Again, showing off that superior monitor. :-)

    Hey JTH, how much do you think that house is worth??

    IIRC, it was over $8 million. For a frame house. Holy Cow! Put that thing about half a mile north and what would it be worth?[/quote]
    Put it a half a block north and what’s it worth? Still way more than it should be, but a fraction of that $8 mil.

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”335524″][quote comment=”335520″][quote comment=”335506″]hey, is that an ad for the Rockettes on the WGN Budweiser Bud Light Horseshoe Casino house?[/quote]
    Again, showing off that superior monitor. :-)

    Hey JTH, how much do you think that house is worth??

    IIRC, it was over $8 million. For a frame house. Holy Cow! Put that thing about half a mile north and what would it be worth?[/quote]
    Put it a half a block north and what’s it worth? Still way more than it should be, but a fraction of that $8 mil.[/quote]

    I actually like the pocket flaps on the player. Despite potentially losing a lot of buttons when sliding, it would be easier to keep items in your pockets.

  • LI Phil | June 17, 2009 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”335518″][quote comment=”335515″][quote comment=”335514″]
    Oh and I wasn’t even commenting on the weekend entries, for all I know they are amazing. I have a life on the weekend. BTW I have a job, but I try to check the site out every weekday for USEFUL info[/quote]

    And yet you continually slap Phil across the face with your tone and disdain. For example, see the quoted text above.[/quote]

    Actually i was slapping Don Cristobal del Pastillo across the face, since he provided almost the entire entry[/quote]

    ok…jeebus, i can’t even get a lunch break without all hell breaking loose on here

    please, lets end this ridiculousness now

    b.jones#23: I apologize if this week’s entries were less than stellar — im not paul, nor would i ever hope to even approach the awesomeness that he produces…i try to include contributions (which i get many of) from the readers; you saw that this week — some of which many people find interesting others do not…not every column (whether it’s paul’s bryan’s mine [or any of my co-collaborators] is going to interest everyone]

    now…with regard to your criticism of SQL…WHAT, EXACTLY is your complaint? if you have some constructive criticism of the content, you’re more than welcome to express it

    i happened to find his idea VERY INTERESTING (and im guessing others do as well) and it’s great that he was able to provide us with visuals (and pretty good ones at that) of what many people, myself included, thought might be an interesting concept (that being, what would teams look like if they returned to stirrups and colored sanis, like many 70’s teams used)…

    i liked it so much, in fact, that i’ll be running another column (part deux) with the national league…be sure not to read that day

    in closing, i, too, hope paul was able to enjoy his vacation and that he comes back relaxed and refreshed…this is NOT my job — i have a full time, day job and honestly, i don’t always enjoy staying up to sometimes 3 AM to try to put something on the board, instead of having the blog closed down…the ticker ALONE (which you seem to enjoy) can sometimes take 2 hours

    you’re more than entitled to your opinion…it is welcome here…but your shot at SQL and apparently me (since “all the main entries on this site have been horrible” lately)…i have to take responsiblity for their content (whether it’s mine or someone elses)…

    completely uncalled for

    /done now

  • SQL | June 17, 2009 at 2:02 pm |

    Actually i was slapping Don Cristobal del Pastillo across the face, since he provided almost the entire entry[/quote]

    And I thank you for providing most of the comments. (now if quality could match quantity…)

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”335525″][quote comment=”335524″][quote comment=”335520″][quote comment=”335506″]hey, is that an ad for the Rockettes on the WGN Budweiser Bud Light Horseshoe Casino house?[/quote]
    Again, showing off that superior monitor. :-)

    Hey JTH, how much do you think that house is worth??

    IIRC, it was over $8 million. For a frame house. Holy Cow! Put that thing about half a mile north and what would it be worth?[/quote]
    Put it a half a block north and what’s it worth? Still way more than it should be, but a fraction of that $8 mil.[/quote]

    I actually like the pocket flaps on the player. Despite potentially losing a lot of buttons when sliding, it would be easier to keep items in your pockets.[/quote]
    Uh, “that player”? Teebz, I know you’re focused on puck 24/7/365, but c’mon…

  • Eddie | June 17, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    Speaking of today’s entry, I’m still not sure I understand the fascination with stirrups. To me, they are almost less useful than the wristband. Is the appreciation of the stirrup more an older generation thing (no offense meant what-so-ever)?

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    Oops, I meant “the player” not “that player”.

    Sorry. I was a bit flustered at Teebz’ blatant disrespect.

    Yeah, that’s what it was.

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”335528″]
    Uh, “that player”? Teebz, I know you’re focused on puck 24/7/365, but c’mon…[/quote]

    Not “that” player… “the” player. ;o)

    But I got nothing on who “the player” is. I guess I should take my shots and be embarrassed?

  • zerominuszero | June 17, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    does anyone know a place in the greater NY area that does a professional job of sewing mets name and numbers onto jerseys?

  • Chico Escuela | June 17, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    “A LOLCAT being a picture of a cat, with a funny caption added onto it.”

    “funny” is debatable.

  • Barry Wilson | June 17, 2009 at 2:18 pm |

    So…just wondering, should “sanis” really be “sanies?”

    “Sanis” doesn’t seem grammatically correct.

  • b.jones#23 | June 17, 2009 at 2:21 pm |

    I’ll just concede. I’m sorry to all that were offended, maybe I just woke up on the wrong side this morning. I’ll go back to just reading like a good boy. Enjoy the rest of your Wednesday everybody!!!

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”335535″]I’ll just concede. I’m sorry to all that were offended, maybe I just woke up on the wrong side this morning. I’ll go back to just reading like a good boy. Enjoy the rest of your Wednesday everybody!!![/quote]

    Jones, express your opinion all you want. I encourage it. Just not in a derogatory fashion.

    With Paul being away and Phil essentially doing two jobs, cut the guy some slack.

  • M.Princip | June 17, 2009 at 2:39 pm |

    BWAHAHAHA!!! lol……..and Toby Keith will be performing during the water breaks.

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”335528″][quote comment=”335525″]
    I actually like the pocket flaps on the player. Despite potentially losing a lot of buttons when sliding, it would be easier to keep items in your pockets.[/quote]
    Uh, “that player”? Teebz, I know you’re focused on puck 24/7/365, but c’mon…[/quote]I just wanted to ask Teebz exactly what someone might want to keep in his pocket during a baseball game.

    Spare change? A Sharpie for those between-innings autographs?

    :-)

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”335537″]lol……..and Toby Keith will be performing during the water breaks.[/quote]Hey, with the price of crude on the slide, Jerry Jones is looking for all the revenue sources he can find.

    OTOH, I don’t think Ford faced much bidding pressure from GM or Dodge on that deal.

  • Bernard | June 17, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”335489″]Custom Uniform Builder for those interested.
    http://www.footballa...

    Have Fun![/quote]

    Man, am I ever wasting a lot of time doing this. Great link!

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”335508″]I was at Phils/Jays last night as well

    The Jays were wearing these caps

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    what the hell is that?

    hideous[/quote]
    I thought that cap was limited to Spring Training only.

    And I agree, no matter what time of year that’s a hideous look for a major-leaguer (speaking of the Spring Training caps as a group).

  • War Damn Eagle | June 17, 2009 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”335537″]BWAHAHAHA!!! lol……..and Toby Keith will be performing during the water breaks.[/quote]

    How ironic is it that a team that hasn’t won a playoff game since 1996 is “Built Ford Tough?”

  • M.Princip | June 17, 2009 at 2:59 pm |

    Therein lies the comedy written all over this logo.

  • M.Princip | June 17, 2009 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”335542″][quote comment=”335537″]BWAHAHAHA!!! lol……..and Toby Keith will be performing during the water breaks.[/quote]

    How ironic is it that a team that hasn’t won a playoff game since 1996 is “Built Ford Tough?”[/quote]

    Therein lies the comedy written all over this logo.

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”335542″]How ironic is it that a team that hasn’t won a playoff game since 1996 is “Built Ford Tough?”[/quote]
    Is that intended as a commentary on the state of the American auto industry?

    :-o

  • War Damn Eagle | June 17, 2009 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”335541″][quote comment=”335508″]I was at Phils/Jays last night as well

    The Jays were wearing these caps

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    what the hell is that?

    hideous[/quote]
    I thought that cap was limited to Spring Training only.

    And I agree, no matter what time of year that’s a hideous look for a major-leaguer (speaking of the Spring Training caps as a group).[/quote]

    I think they were wearing the 5950 version, not the 3930 BP cap.

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Gregg | June 17, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    Thanks Phil.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 17, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”335545″][quote comment=”335542″]How ironic is it that a team that hasn’t won a playoff game since 1996 is “Built Ford Tough?”[/quote]
    Is that intended as a commentary on the state of the American auto industry?

    :-o[/quote]

    Well, at least it’s not Chevy.

    “This is our country . . .”

  • Kevin Z. | June 17, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    Is it just me or is there no yellow or black in the Angels logo or wordmark?? If anything, they use navy blue as their third color. The California Angels used gold for the halo in their logo, but now that aspect is silver gray.

  • JSS | June 17, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    Here are some of my creations from the uniform builder site above:
    PITT:
    Some Options for Pitt:
    http://www.footballa...….0.10.0.2.0.l5,1:4,10:3,2:2,2:1,10:0,2:ll7,0:2,2:0,10:l
    http://www.footballa...….0.10.0.0.0.l5,0:4,2:3,0:2,0:1,2:0,0:ll7,0:2,2:0,10:l
    http://www.footballa...….0.10.0.2.0.l5,0:4,2:3,0:2,0:1,2:0,0:ll7,10:2,2:0,0:l.
    http://www.footballa...….0.10.0.0.0.l5,0:4,2:3,0:2,0:1,2:0,0:ll7,10:2,0:0,2:l
    http://www.footballa...….0.10.0.2.0.l5,2:4,10:3,2:2,2:1,10:0,2:ll7,2:2,10:0,0:l
    http://www.footballa...….0.10.0.2.0.l5,2:4,10:3,2:2,2:1,10:0,2:ll7,2:2,10:0,0:l
    http://www.footballa...….0.10.0.0.0.l5,2:4,10:3,2:2,2:1,10:0,2:ll7,0:2,10:0,2:l

  • The Great | June 17, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    Re: Flag Height

    This was discussed, maybe to much, a few weeks or days back, but…

    I was at AT&T park last night and noticed they had the California flag at the same height as the Stars and Stripes. Wasn’t this examined in the comments and decided it was incorrect to have any state’s flag at the same height as the American flag?
    Anyone remember or still have the links handy? -thanks

    I have a picture on my phone which im trying to upload to the web.

  • leon | June 17, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    Such as can anyone find a picture of the Purdue Boilermaker train pattern on their basketball uniforms in the 1990s.

    will this work?

    http://www.americana...

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”335551″]Re: Flag Height

    This was discussed, maybe to much, a few weeks or days back, but…

    I was at AT&T park last night and noticed they had the California flag at the same height as the Stars and Stripes. Wasn’t this examined in the comments and decided it was incorrect to have any state’s flag at the same height as the American flag?
    Anyone remember or still have the links handy? -thanks

    I have a picture on my phone which im trying to upload to the web.[/quote]

    If they are on individual flagpoles, no. But the US flag should fly to the extreme left (when looking at the flags) whenever a line up flags is presented.

  • Teebz | June 17, 2009 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”335554″][quote comment=”335551″]Re: Flag Height

    This was discussed, maybe to much, a few weeks or days back, but…

    I was at AT&T park last night and noticed they had the California flag at the same height as the Stars and Stripes. Wasn’t this examined in the comments and decided it was incorrect to have any state’s flag at the same height as the American flag?
    Anyone remember or still have the links handy? -thanks

    I have a picture on my phone which im trying to upload to the web.[/quote]

    If they are on individual flagpoles, no. But the US flag should fly to the extreme left (when looking at the flags) whenever a line up OF flags is presented.[/quote]

  • Jack | June 17, 2009 at 3:23 pm |

    I think it’s an interesting project, but I think I personally prefer lots of stirrup with minimal sock showing (only, these have to be striped stirrups). That said, I still love that A’s look when they wear their white pants and white socks…

    I’d be interested in seeing a similar project of what team socks might look like if they had awesome stripage…

  • Ricko | June 17, 2009 at 3:25 pm |

    No secret I’ve been around longer than synthetic uni fabrics so I’ll just say…
    Jeez, I miss these uniforms. Not saying stirrups should be mandatory or anything, just that it was a great looking uni.
    http://tbn0.google.c...

    —Ricko

  • The Great | June 17, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”335554″][quote comment=”335551″][/quote]
    If they are on individual flagpoles, no. But the US flag should fly to the extreme left (when looking at the flags) whenever a line up flags is presented.[/quote]

    Thanks Teebz, separate poles and the American Flag was to the left, nothing wrong to report in San Francisco then…

    except the back end of our rotation, but thats another discussion…

  • JL | June 17, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”335553″]Whoops. Here you go.
    Some Options for Pitt:
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa....
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa...

    Am I missing something, how did you save your creations to a postable link??

  • chance michaels | June 17, 2009 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”335549″]Is it just me or is there no yellow or black in the Angels logo or wordmark?? If anything, they use navy blue as their third color. The California Angels used gold for the halo in their logo, but now that aspect is silver gray.[/quote]
    Good catch.

    There is neither black nor gold in the Angels’ logo, nor may they even be found in their palette.

    I don’t know if they’ve ever had black in any of their primary logos.

  • Flip | June 17, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    Phil, SQL,

    Interesting topic today, or at least an interesting exercise. I was surprised at how good some of the combinations looked, i.e. Twins, Orioles. Still, the old white sanis are tried and true.

    During the ’70s, I wasn’t thrilled with the Giants’ and Padres’ experiements; the Sox’ navy sanitaries in the ’60s, though, were pretty cool. The A’s just work. It IS the shoes.

    I’m pretty happy with some of the newer players trying the look. And, that McCutchen fellow with the Pirates looks like he might just stick around for awhile.

    All that said, the best words of all today elicited a heavy sigh: Nothing beats the Red Sox stirrups of the Yastrzemski era. (And from a couple days ago, I, too, liked the sans serif road font from that time).

    Thanks for an entertaining post that, yes, drew some unexpected groans.

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”335521If you find a pic of the more recent women’s tournament final between PU and MSU, you’ll see both a motif that’s reminiscent of the “Spartans” era as well as that train track pattern. :-)[/quote]Half of what I wanted: Purdue.
    http://sportsillustr...

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”335521[/quote]If you find a pic of the more recent women’s tournament final between PU and MSU, you’ll see both a motif that’s reminiscent of the “Spartans” era as well as that train track pattern. :-)[/quote]Okay, one more try: here’s half of what I wanted, the Purdue half.

    http://sportsillustr...

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”335557″]Jeez, I miss these uniforms. Not saying stirrups should be mandatory or anything, just that it was a great looking uni.[/quote]Agree; the detail (down to the piping on the belt loops) makes me say that uni rocks even in that b&w picture.

  • Ricko | June 17, 2009 at 3:47 pm |

    Finally had time for a quick check of the “colored sanis.”
    Like most everything a bit radical would be okay if a team or two did it so it remained unique…an interesting experiment of sorts. Across the board, though, MLB would look like the cast of the Fire Island production of DAMN YANKEES. Or super-number-one-biggest-EVER-Miley Cyrus fans.

    Cuz, genearlly speaking, really geeky.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | June 17, 2009 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”335564″][quote comment=”335557″]Jeez, I miss these uniforms. Not saying stirrups should be mandatory or anything, just that it was a great looking uni.[/quote]Agree; the detail (down to the piping on the belt loops) makes me say that uni rocks even in that b&w picture.[/quote]

    Ya shoulda seen ’em in person. Just gorgeous.

    —Ricko

  • JSS | June 17, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”335559″][quote comment=”335553″]Whoops. Here you go.
    Some Options for Pitt:
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa....
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa...
    http://www.footballa...

    Am I missing something, how did you save your creations to a postable link??[/quote]

    I emailed them to myself and then pasted them here after clicking the link the website provided me. :)

  • Trevor Botting | June 17, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    gotta say, personally, i loved the column, love the idea of the coloured sanis (with either high or low stirrups) and can’t wait for the follow up.

    i do agree that if every team went ahead with this idea, it would be a little much, but breaking it out once in a while would be outstanding.

    and there’s a lot more colour combination’s that could be tried for each team, dependent on which uni they wear. some will look horrendous, some will look spectacular.

    good work phil. much appreciated.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 17, 2009 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”335552″]Such as can anyone find a picture of the Purdue Boilermaker train pattern on their basketball uniforms in the 1990s.

    will this work?

    http://www.americana...

    Nope, but I don’t think that I’d buy one of those.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 17, 2009 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”335563″][quote comment=”335521[/quote]If you find a pic of the more recent women’s tournament final between PU and MSU, you’ll see both a motif that’s reminiscent of the “Spartans” era as well as that train track pattern. :-)[/quote]Okay, one more try: here’s half of what I wanted, the Purdue half.

    http://sportsillustr...

    Actually, I had not seen that one before, but that is what I’m looking for. It was the men’s basketball team.

  • divino codino | June 17, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”335430″]The first one is easy. That was taken on March 25th, 2008, the Red Sox vs. the Boston (sic) Athletics. The season started in Japan that year. Final Score? Red Sox 6, A’s 5.[/quote]

    Are we sure the Natinals weren’t somehow involved? How else to explain the analog clock showing 9:26 and the digital clock showing 2:16.

  • leon | June 17, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”335570″][quote comment=”335563″][quote comment=”335521[/quote]If you find a pic of the more recent women’s tournament final between PU and MSU, you’ll see both a motif that’s reminiscent of the “Spartans” era as well as that train track pattern. :-)[/quote]Okay, one more try: here’s half of what I wanted, the Purdue half.

    http://sportsillustr...

    Actually, I had not seen that one before, but that is what I’m looking for. It was the men’s basketball team.[/quote]

    so you were looking for the tracks, not the train.

  • besty | June 17, 2009 at 4:42 pm |

    Scoreboard # 1: Impossible
    Scoreboard # 2: http://www.baseball-...

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”335573″]Scoreboard # 1: Impossible[/quote]
    FWLIW, scoreboard # 1 has been guessed here: it’s not THAT impossible.

    Even though I didn’t guess it, apparently no knowledge of the Japanese language was needed.

  • anotherguy | June 17, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”335571″]How else to explain the analog clock showing 9:26 and the digital clock showing 2:16.[/quote]I wonder if the 2:16 isn’t the elapsed time of the game?

  • Scott Little | June 17, 2009 at 5:04 pm |

    As Nike’s only defender in these parts, I feel something should be said about Van Halen.

    Doesn’t anyone see the hypocrisy of VH stealing a Nike owned design (making shoes that are Chuck Taylor ripoffs), and then coming after Nike when Nike has a Dunk that has the similar midsole colors?

  • JimV19 | June 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”335561″]Phil, SQL,

    Interesting topic today, or at least an interesting exercise. I was surprised at how good some of the combinations looked, i.e. Twins, Orioles. Still, the old white sanis are tried and true.

    During the ’70s, I wasn’t thrilled with the Giants’ and Padres’ experiements; the Sox’ navy sanitaries in the ’60s, though, were pretty cool. The A’s just work. It IS the shoes.

    I’m pretty happy with some of the newer players trying the look. And, that McCutchen fellow with the Pirates looks like he might just stick around for awhile.

    All that said, the best words of all today elicited a heavy sigh: Nothing beats the Red Sox stirrups of the Yastrzemski era. (And from a couple days ago, I, too, liked the sans serif road font from that time).

    Thanks for an entertaining post that, yes, drew some unexpected groans.[/quote]

    That McCutchen fellow will stick around for a while…in the majors. If he’s any good he won’t be with my Pirates for long, unfortunately…

    Yes, the post was entertaining; yes, it did draw some groans, but let me suggest something the next time someone groans so much you think to yourself, “Methinks the person doth groan too much” (sorry, Lady MacBeth) – let it slide. Yeah, it was a bit too strong, but if he’s the only one like that, at the end of the day it’ll be but one comment in a sea of more favorable ones.

    It’s easy to jump to Phil’s side, and deservedly so. Same with his contributors. However, as we saw, these things tend to escalate. Maybe respond, but wait five minutes before doing so. Just a suggestion.

    I am liking those Twins sanis (or sannies) more and more, come to think of it.

  • LI Phil | June 17, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”335576″]As Nike’s only defender in these parts, I feel something should be said about Van Halen.

    Doesn’t anyone see the hypocrisy of VH stealing a Nike owned design (making shoes that are Chuck Taylor ripoffs), and then coming after Nike when Nike has a Dunk that has the similar midsole colors?[/quote]

    well (hey scotty!)…i tried to make the ticker item itself sarcastic — “nike did a VH cover” … as if VH never made any money off of anyone’s work…

    yeah…it’s quite hypocritical of them…hence the delicious irony of it all

  • =bg= | June 17, 2009 at 5:31 pm |

    Giants take a lickin’ and keep on…

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

    Erin: What about jerseys? I know the NFL is allowing logos to go on practice jerseys this year. Does this deal include that?

    Hoejsgaard: It sure does. We will have the Timex logo on the practice jerseys and we’re pleased with that.

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”335578″][quote comment=”335576″]As Nike’s only defender in these parts, I feel something should be said about Van Halen.

    Doesn’t anyone see the hypocrisy of VH stealing a Nike owned design (making shoes that are Chuck Taylor ripoffs), and then coming after Nike when Nike has a Dunk that has the similar midsole colors?[/quote]

    well (hey scotty!)…i tried to make the ticker item itself sarcastic — “nike did a VH cover” … as if VH never made any money off of anyone’s work…

    yeah…it’s quite hypocritical of them…hence the delicious irony of it all[/quote]
    Whatchootalkinbout, fellas? Those EVH shoes don’t look nothin’ like no Chuck Taylors.

  • =bg= | June 17, 2009 at 5:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”335580″][quote comment=”335578″][quote comment=”335576″]As Nike’s only defender in these parts, I feel something should be said about Van Halen.

    Doesn’t anyone see the hypocrisy of VH stealing a Nike owned design (making shoes that are Chuck Taylor ripoffs), and then coming after Nike when Nike has a Dunk that has the similar midsole colors?[/quote]

    well (hey scotty!)…i tried to make the ticker item itself sarcastic — “nike did a VH cover” … as if VH never made any money off of anyone’s work…

    yeah…it’s quite hypocritical of them…hence the delicious irony of it all[/quote]
    Whatchootalkinbout, fellas? Those EVH shoes don’t look nothin’ like no Chuck Taylors.[/quote]

    The design of the uppers are identical.

  • JimV19 | June 17, 2009 at 5:36 pm |

    Sponsor logo creep infects the world of competitive texting:

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I give credit to the girl for the basic attire. The jacket was a nice touch (except for the LG logo), but maybe the sleeves were a little too baggy for someone having to use her hands so much.

    And no, Phil or Paul, I don’t need to see anything else about “competitive texting” on this blog. Hmm, $50,000 grand prize…that’ll make a dent in her parents’ phone bill…

  • =bg= | June 17, 2009 at 5:37 pm |

    let me re-phrase that- the graphics on the upper.

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”335579″]Giants take a lickin’ and keep on…

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

    Erin: What about jerseys? I know the NFL is allowing logos to go on practice jerseys this year. Does this deal include that?

    Hoejsgaard: It sure does. We will have the Timex logo on the practice jerseys and we’re pleased with that.[/quote]
    Hmmmmm….

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”335581″][quote comment=”335580″][quote comment=”335578″][quote comment=”335576″]As Nike’s only defender in these parts, I feel something should be said about Van Halen.

    Doesn’t anyone see the hypocrisy of VH stealing a Nike owned design (making shoes that are Chuck Taylor ripoffs), and then coming after Nike when Nike has a Dunk that has the similar midsole colors?[/quote]

    well (hey scotty!)…i tried to make the ticker item itself sarcastic — “nike did a VH cover” … as if VH never made any money off of anyone’s work…

    yeah…it’s quite hypocritical of them…hence the delicious irony of it all[/quote]
    Whatchootalkinbout, fellas? Those EVH shoes don’t look nothin’ like no Chuck Taylors.[/quote]

    The design of the uppers are identical.[/quote]
    DAMMIT! The <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags are broken again.

  • CJ | June 17, 2009 at 5:46 pm |

    If there’s going to be mention of Australian rules football, I have to promote myself. While searching for some creative socks for fencing, I came across a shop on ebay selling the socks for all of the teams.

    Always trying to look good, I went for the St. Kilda Saints.
    http://farm4.static....

    They don’t look half bad fencing either.
    http://i38.photobuck...

    I have trouble finding suitable appropriate socks for fencing, since nothing really matches my stupid shoes. I really wanted the Tottenham Hotspur striped set, but they were sold out by the time I found them.

  • JimV19 | June 17, 2009 at 5:48 pm |

    Double D-bag alert from my alma mater, Akron U…sorry, the University of Akron (20 years now, they’ve been telling us to say it that way):

    Last year the Zips played their final game at the historic Akron Rubber Bowl (let the jokes fly – we’ve heard most of them). This year they will move downtown to play at…let me take a breath before I say it all…Summa Field at InfoCision Stadium.

    One sponsor was bad enough. We have two.

    “I’m Calling It The Rubber Bowl.” And I’m still calling it Akron U.

  • JimV19 | June 17, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”335586″]If there’s going to be mention of Australian rules football, I have to promote myself. While searching for some creative socks for fencing, I came across a shop on ebay selling the socks for all of the teams.

    Always trying to look good, I went for the St. Kilda Saints.
    http://farm4.static....

    They don’t look half bad fencing either.
    http://i38.photobuck...

    I have trouble finding suitable appropriate socks for fencing, since nothing really matches my stupid shoes. I really wanted the Tottenham Hotspur striped set, but they were sold out by the time I found them.[/quote]

    You can’t tell the fencers without a scorecard…but you can tell them by their socks…

    Those look pretty good. At first I cringed at the horizontal colors matched with the guy’s vertical stripes on the jersey, but I quickly got used to it.

  • divino codino | June 17, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    [/quote]I wonder if the 2:16 isn’t the elapsed time of the game?[/quote]

    Makes sense. Ruins the joke, though.

  • Lee | June 17, 2009 at 6:00 pm |

    [quote comment=\”335587\”] This year they will move downtown to play at…let me take a breath before I say it all…Summa Field at InfoCision Stadium.

    One sponsor was bad enough. We have two.

    \”I\’m Calling It The Rubber Bowl.\” And I\’m still calling it Akron U.[/quote]

    Ouch. That’s horrible.

    Lee

  • MPowers1634 | June 17, 2009 at 7:30 pm |

    You’ve all been waiting at the edge of your seats for me to post, I’m certain.

    Well, here it goes: Is Will Ferrell wearing #44 for the Nationals tonight?

  • MPowers1634 | June 17, 2009 at 7:32 pm |

    Oh, and I like the red caps with the road grays much better.

  • MPowers1634 | June 17, 2009 at 7:34 pm |

    One more…What happened to the Oriole’s jerseys…didn’t they have a wordmark on their right sleeves?

  • Scott Little | June 17, 2009 at 7:48 pm |

    Uniwatch conversation about Nike, and not talking about how much it sucks? I’m getting warm fuzzies all over. :)

  • Beef | June 17, 2009 at 8:17 pm |

    Is anyone watching the Phillies/Blue Jays game on ESPN? Look at Jamie Moyer’s stirrups. Are those blue Philly logo P’s on his stirrups? Sorry if this is old news but this is the 1st time I noticed and don’t recall hearing about it before.

  • LI Phil | June 17, 2009 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”335591″]You’ve all been waiting at the edge of your seats for me to post, I’m certain.

    Well, here it goes: Is Will Ferrell wearing #44 for the Nationals tonight?[/quote]

    man…that was worth the wait

    i can die happy now

  • Mike Engle | June 17, 2009 at 8:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”335595″]Is anyone watching the Phillies/Blue Jays game on ESPN? Look at Jamie Moyer’s stirrups. Are those blue Philly logo P’s on his stirrups? Sorry if this is old news but this is the 1st time I noticed and don’t recall hearing about it before.[/quote]
    Probably a Liberty Bell.

  • MPowers1634 | June 17, 2009 at 8:55 pm |

    To add another layer to this enigma, Nike OWNS Converse. It was alluded to in an earlier post, but I believed that clarificatiuon was necessary.

    I wonder if DLR and Sammy Hagar put the petal to the metal and drove 55 as if they were driving to Panama City for Spring Break when they realized that Vernon Hills High School was ripping them off too.

    http://ecx.images-am...

    http://farm3.static....

    If not, I guess that one of them must have been hot for some of the teachers.

  • LI Phil | June 17, 2009 at 9:19 pm |

    roth & hagar were never in VH at the same time (tho they did tour together) and i can’t drive 55 was released as a solo work by sammy a year before he joined the band

    but yes, nike OWNS converse, much in the same way as the red sox own the yankees

  • Elvin | June 17, 2009 at 10:00 pm |

    Too bad the Sun Devils lost the game. Their colors and throwbacks look so much better than that filthy burnt-orange apparel of their opponent.

  • JTH | June 17, 2009 at 10:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”335598″]…when they realized that Vernon Hills High School was ripping them off too.

    http://ecx.images-am...

    http://farm3.static....
    I can’t decide what’s worse, the fact that their helmet logo is a bad ripoff of a band’s logo or that their opponent in this photo (it’s Libertyville HS) uses a bad ripoff of an NHL team logo on its helmets.

  • Jeremiah | June 17, 2009 at 10:22 pm |

    I really enjoyed today\’s post. I particularly liked the O\’s, Royals, Tigers, and Jays. I think the Rays treatment could work too.

    I know others have already brought it up, but the Halos never wore black except for the underbrim of their 5950\’s as soon as they switched to their current color scheme. As for yellow, it only ever appeared as the color of the halo and the star on their California logo (which was worn as a sleeve patch), from the 70’s and 80’s.

    That said, I wonder if someone could do a mock-up of the Halos with navy stirrups over red sanis, I’d love to see it. Somehow I don’t think silver would work.

  • MPowers1634 | June 17, 2009 at 10:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”335599″]roth & hagar were never in VH at the same time (tho they did tour together) and i can’t drive 55 was released as a solo work by sammy a year before he joined the band

    but yes, nike OWNS converse, much in the same way as the red sox own the yankees[/quote]

    Lighten up, Francis!

    Nike actually bought Converse about 4 years ago hence Marquette wears what is considered SOD uniforms.

    Nike=Converse Dwayne Wade=Marquette

  • Mike Engle | June 17, 2009 at 10:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”335602″]I really enjoyed today\’s post. I particularly liked the O\’s, Royals, Tigers, and Jays. I think the Rays treatment could work too.

    I know others have already brought it up, but the Halos never wore black except for the underbrim of their 5950\’s as soon as they switched to their current color scheme. As for yellow, it only ever appeared as the color of the halo and the star on their California logo (which was worn as a sleeve patch), from the 70’s and 80’s.

    That said, I wonder if someone could do a mock-up of the Halos with navy stirrups over red sanis, I’d love to see it. Somehow I don’t think silver would work.[/quote]
    Looking ahead to the National League equivalent of this game, I’m curious to see how khaki sanis would look under black or brick red stirrups for the Astros. Truth be told, it would probably look like hell with the gray pants, but at home, that would have a chance of looking good, because it would bring out the least used Astros color.

  • Fight | June 17, 2009 at 10:38 pm |

    Just finished watching the Reds game on FSN Ohio and in the post-game show it was “leaked” that the Reds will wear the 1964 home uniforms (seen here: http://exhibits.base...)for the Civil Rights game. Those are the ones with the names below the numbers on the back.

    I wonder if the White Sox will wear these babies: http://exhibits.base...

  • =bg= | June 17, 2009 at 11:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”335599″]roth & hagar were never in VH at the same time (tho they did tour together) and i can’t drive 55 was released as a solo work by sammy a year before he joined the band

    but yes, nike OWNS converse, much in the same way as the red sox own the yankees[/quote]

    Oooh, quote of the day.

    And yes, hanging with VH (1988?) was as fun as it looks:

    http://img.photobuck...

  • LI Phil | June 17, 2009 at 11:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”335607″][quote comment=”335599″]roth & hagar were never in VH at the same time (tho they did tour together) and i can’t drive 55 was released as a solo work by sammy a year before he joined the band

    but yes, nike OWNS converse, much in the same way as the red sox own the yankees[/quote]

    Oooh, quote of the day.

    And yes, hanging with VH (1988?) was as fun as it looks:

    http://img.photobuck...

    whoa…brinke…that you with the glasses tucked into the sweater?

  • Michael Emody | June 18, 2009 at 12:27 am |

    I think the guy to Sammy Hagar’s right is Texas comic Bill Engvall.

  • BW Radley | June 18, 2009 at 12:36 am |

    The Hilda you thought was a Milwaukee Braves fan was actually Hilda Chester, a very well-known Brooklyn Dodger fan of the 1940’s and 1950’s. (See http://www.baseballr...)

  • Michael Emody | June 18, 2009 at 12:40 am |

    I was going to say that I’m more into suggestions for MLB socks with stripes on them:

    A’s
    Diamondbacks
    Giants
    Marlins
    Pirate’s
    Royals
    Nationals
    Twin’s
    White Sox
    .

  • JimV19 | June 18, 2009 at 1:10 am |

    [quote comment=”335611″]I was going to say that I’m more into suggestions for MLB socks with stripes on them:

    A’s
    Diamondbacks
    Giants
    Marlins
    Pirate’s
    Royals
    Nationals
    Twin’s
    White Sox
    .[/quote]

    I really like the 3-stripes look on the A’s, Giants and Pirates. Using the 2nd color in that manner takes a plain uniform and suddenly makes it all some worthwhile (to paraphrase a line from the Mary Tyler Moore theme song). I’d like to see that design on the other teams as well. Oh, and could you put the old teal hat with black brim on the Marlins guy??? Good stuff, Michael.

  • Chris in DC | June 18, 2009 at 1:27 am |

    [quote comment=”335541″][quote comment=”335508″]I was at Phils/Jays last night as well

    The Jays were wearing these caps

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    what the hell is that?

    hideous[/quote]
    I thought that cap was limited to Spring Training only.

    And I agree, no matter what time of year that’s a hideous look for a major-leaguer (speaking of the Spring Training caps as a group).[/quote]

    Yeah, each team has been wearing that cap in Spring Training as well as pre-game BP for 3 seasons now. I’ll have to add that they’re VERY comfortable.

  • Nick | June 18, 2009 at 2:09 am |

    [quote comment=”335599″]roth & hagar were never in VH at the same time (tho they did tour together) and i can’t drive 55 was released as a solo work by sammy a year before he joined the band

    but yes, nike OWNS converse, much in the same way as the red sox own the yankees[/quote]

    Phil, I believe Sammay Hagar was playing “55” years before he ever oined VH. I saw a “Day of Rock-n-Roll” all-day concert in 1979-1980 with Van Halen playing and Sammy Hagar opening where I’m pretty certain his band played that song.

    This was many years before David Lee Roth left VH.