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The Ultimate Uniform

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By Phil Hecken, with Brian Kerr

I’m joined today by reader Brian Kerr (who just celebrated his 21st birthday yesterday, incidentally), and who plays a sport many of you have probably played, or a least are familiar with — Ultimate. I played, or at least attempted to play, while in college myself, 100 years ago. Back then, it was actually still called “Ultimate Frisbee” because, well, we used an actual “Frisbee” flying disc. I guess they use one made by someone else now. A quick check of the always accurate Wikipedia reveals there’s quite a bit to know about this sport. If you’re not familiar with it, give it a quick perusal.

But we’re not concerned so much with the sport itself as we are with the uniforms (and yes, they do wear unis for Ultimate). So Brian has graciously volunteered to lead us in this rather in-depth examination of the uniforms of Ultimate. So without further ado, here’s Brian:

A little background on me. I play for the Iowa State ultimate frisbee team. Though the sport is a club sport, it has a good following, and a season which has a national championship. One of the big things about frisbee is having a good looking jersey, and trading jerseys with other players. A lot of frisbee teams also make their own logo’s because licensing their schools logo is too expensive, which makes for team names that are different than their own school, and use of different colors.

Thanks Brian. Now, with great assistance from Mr. Kerr, lets explore a bit about the sport and the jerseys/uniforms of Ultimate.

Ultimate Frisbee is a sport that generally has a strong intramural presence at colleges, and local leagues around the world. Ultimate is played on a field that’s 120 yards long, 40 yards wide, with 25 yard end-zones at each end. Teams play with 7 players at a time on the field. Ultimate can be best describe as a mix of football and soccer, with the disc being advanced by passing it to other players on the field and you can’t run with the disc.

Besides intramural presence at colleges, most schools also have a club Ultimate team that will play other teams from across the country competitively. Between May 22nd and May 25th, the 20 best open and women’s college teams in America, Canada, and Mexico played for the UPA (Ultimate Players Association) National Championship. To get to nationals teams had to go through a series of tournaments to qualify (Sectionals -> Regionals -> Nationals).

The UPA publishes a few documents regarding required uniform regulations for the national championship and helpful uniform hints for teams here, and here.

Brian will be breaking down the best uniforms in the open, and women’s divisions.

Open Division:

Without a doubt University of California at Santa Barbra had the best jerseys in the entire tournament. UCSB is nicknamed the Black Tide because of oil spills off of the coast of California, near Santa Barbara. Their jersey design dates back to 1986. The Black Tide on the front is extremely easy to read. Here’s a shot of the back.

The University of Virginia Night Train had a nice uniform set. They had two uniforms that they wore during weekend, a green one and a grey one. The green jersey is clean and easy to look at. They also had a grey jersey. The grey jersey would have looked great with just the yellow, blue, and green horizontal lines, but they also had the attention to detail to put trains on the lines. This was a fantastic touch.

Kansas had a great uniform. They were white, and very easy to look at. Brian loves the way the black numbers are outlined in red; it makes it extremely easy to read from a distance. The front was also clean and easy to read.

Next up is the Wisconsin Hodags. Wisconsin came in as back to back national champions. Wisconsin wore a baby blue and black uniform. Their uniform last year was a lot simpler, however this year they have a lot more going on. They have an HL script representing “Hodag Love”, stars on their left arm representing their three national championships, and finally a big Patagonia advertisement on their back. The Patagonia advertisement doesn’t bother Brian too much: “It doesn’t look too out of place, and as a college ultimate player, I understand anything you can do to make uniforms more affordable is a good thing.”

Womens Division:

The award for best uniform on the ladies side has to be given to Dartmouth. Their nickname is Princess Layout and they do a good job of incorporating elements of that in their uniform. Their uniform says “Princess Layout” in two places, on the right shoulder and on the back. On the right shoulder, it is hard to see, but it’s there. On the back it is clear and easy to read. They also include a crown, which is the point where all of the stripes work off of.

The National Champions on the women side had a great look. Like their male counterparts, the University of California at Santa Barbra Burning Skirts had a great look. They went with a simple black, and yellow uniform. What set them apart from all the other women’s teams, was their pleated skirts; it’s just a great look. The skirt looks a lot better than the skirts worn by other women sports teams.

Next up, is the women’s team from the university Brian attends, the Iowa State University Women Scorned. The name “Women Scorned” comes from the William Congreve poem, The mourning bride, (1697). They wore a black and a red uniform. The red is fantastic looking; it’s the perfect color of red and the screen printing fits well on it. They also have one of the more unique number fonts. These are not the usual block numbers you see in sports. The also had a unique short issue. Some players had their shorts turned into skirts, and others kept them as shorts.

The final team is Element, from the University of Washington. They got second place in the women’s division. They wore a simple purple jersey, and then they had a sublimated jersey that had a lot going on. Their back looked weird with the number in the top right, and their team name and school at the very bottom. They were one of the few teams that had player names on their backs.

Other sights and sounds from the tournament:

The University of Oregon football team isn’t the only sports team that has a look that hurts your eyes. Their women’s ultimate jersey was pure Oregon. The Pitt men shared a look with their football team. Some other teams joined Wisconsin in having advertisements on their uniforms: Michigan women, Colorado women, and the Colorado men. Three fans also made DIY Dartmouth uniforms. They felt the need to put the logo for the company that makes their uniform in the bottom left of the jersey.

That’s the end of this Ultimate uniform review. My great thanks to Brian Kerr for his tremendous assistance with this. With the warmer weather here (for most of us anyway), don’t you just want to go toss the disc around some now? By the way, most of the photos for this post (and some you didn’t see) come from this gallery; if you’re so inclined, check it out.

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scoreboardGuess The Game From The Scoreboard: Another toughie. The clues are all right there. As with yesterday, there are slight changes to the “rules” as well: DON’T email me with your guess, but don’t put it on the board either. Instead, if you wish to take a shot at the answer, go to Baseball Almanac or Retrosheet and copy the URL of the game that’s about to follow. Just say something like “I GOT IT” and post the link as your “answer” in the comments. This way, those who wish to guess can still do so without seeing the answer in the comments. Ok? Ok! Here we go: Guess The Game. Remember, I want the date, location and final score (all of which can be gleaned by posting the link from one of the reference sites). Let’s see how long this one takes you.

*If you have a scoreboard photo you’d like featured, please send it to me. I’m compiling a pretty good “stash” for your guessing pleasure, but I can always use more. Make sure to include the date, location and final score! Thanks.

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stanley cup 2009The Wrong Cup? After the Penguins captured another title for Pittsburgh, with their Stanley Cup Victory (“Titletown, USA”?), a couple of people have pointed that the actual cup may not be the “true” trophy. Eric Buzard noticed last night that the base of the Stanely Cup was markedly different from years past. Last night, the Pens paraded with a Stanley Cup that had the Hockey Hall of Fame logo on the bottom. To his knowledge, this is the first time that’s happened. It’s been well noted that there are 2 Stanley Cups: one that’s “the” Cup & the other that takes its place in the HHOF when “the” Cup is traveling. Buzz asks, “So, were the Pens skating around with the “dummy” Cup last night? Or did the league have the base of “the” Cup changed? Either way, I’m not a fan of it!”

Another reader, Jon Alviani writes, “So I was watching the Stanley Cup Finals last night and I noticed something different. For years the bottom of the cup has had a gold insignia on the bottom. I’ve never seen it up close, even though I did some searching.” Jon produced the following photos: here, here, here, here and here. He continues, ” It looks to be some kind of maple leaf with a torch in the middle and two banners underneath. But last night, the insignia had changed. It now looks either white or silver and has a hockey player inside a circle or ring.”

Readers? Any insight on this?

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san diego padres alternate logoCouple more uni-trackers keep trickling in. Here’s Tim Stoops who has been tracking the San Diego Padres.

The San Diego Padres feature five different uni combinations in this 2009 season. If they’re lucky enough to appear on “Sportscenter” you’ll see them in home whites, road sand, home alternate (blue softball), road alternate (blue softball), or the Sunday camos.

There’s really no rhyme or reason to the uniform choices for every game. In the late 1990’s, it was up to the starting pitcher to decide the uniform. I haven’t heard confirmation of this in years. I’m going on the assumption that they do. If the choice is still up to the SP, the days they absolutely have no say are home Sundays. The camouflage uniforms (worn with road sand pants) show up every Sunday as a tribute to the military. They also designate one night during the opening homestand as Military Opening Night and wear the camo uniforms. In 2007, Military Opening Night featured a live video feed of the crew of one of San Diego’s aircraft carriers saying hello on their way to Iraq.

If the Padres were paying attention to uniform performance, I would not be surprised if they left the blue softball tops at home for all road trips. Through June 12, they are an abysmal 5-13 when they show off the the blue tops for cities across America. Josh Geer has only worn the blue tops on the road. Chad Gaudin also seems to prefer it, selecting it for 5 of 6 road starts. Run differential is a whopping -30 when the blue alts appear on the road.

At home, the blue alternate has shown up only four times for a 3-1 record. Chris Young never selects the blue alternates at home. In the home whites, the Padres have amassed a 13-6 record.

Something that has always bothered me is the lampooning of the Padres camouflage jerseys. It’s impossible to grow up in San Diego and not feel the military’s impact. You can see bases right next to our highways, jets and helicopters constantly fly over homes and businesses on their way out to training missions, school friends move away because their mother or father was deployed to another US location. The Padres take the military very seriously. I love the camo uniforms because they represent the team honoring those that serve our country. During those home games, an entire section of the upper deck is filled with the military’s newest recruits, all in uniform. In between the 4th inning, the Padres play the Marine Hymn. The recruits stand at attention, and everyone in the park stands and applauds for the whole song. It’s truly incredible to see. I don’t often get on a soapbox, especially on the Internet, but it always strikes such a nerve when the camo unis are referred to as a gimmick.

I’m happy to be doing this unitrack for the Padres is just another fun way for me to get involved with my favorite baseball team. When I post in the comments section, I just go with my name – Tim Stoops. Take care everybody!

Thanks Tim.

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That’s all for today folks. Have a great Sunday.

 

120 comments to The Ultimate Uniform

  • bartusball | June 14, 2009 at 8:05 am |

    Who knew the Michagan Women’s ultimate team also played at Citi Field?

  • Ben | June 14, 2009 at 8:15 am |

    the rules are now confusing me but here’s the link- I guess I got it first. http://baseball-alma...

  • The Ghost of Ross Gload | June 14, 2009 at 8:49 am |

    Got it. There are a couple of obvious hints, if you’ve been following the Royals for all these long, painful years.

    http://www.baseball-...

    The Kansas City Royals have turned me into a soccer fan. That’s how much they’ve sucked over the last 15 years.

  • Jason Axel | June 14, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    Got it!!
    http://www.baseball-...

    Aww crud, refreshed real quick and saw I was beat. Bummer.

  • ATLShaun | June 14, 2009 at 9:21 am |
  • ATLShaun | June 14, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    From Fridays comments…

    “OK so i dunno if this is new or not, but my friend has informed me that Bobby Cox is a member of Stirrup Nation, there is a video on a blog she reads here http://braveslove.bl... it is the video commemerating Bobby for his 2000th win with Atlanta.”

  • Tony in Erie | June 14, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    Been away from UW for a while. Sorry to hear about your father Paul. :(

    Looks to me that there is a brand new ring on the bottom of the Cup. I’m probably beating Teebz to the punch on pointing this out, but the trophy doesn’t get bigger each time a ring gets filled with names on it.

    My guess for a new base is partly advertising the hockey hall of fame on the base. Knowing they most likely just took it apart this past year, updating the base (considering its a trophy that has changed from a simple cup on a wood base to the majesty it is today) doesn’t sound ‘dummy’ to me.

    /just sayin’

  • TMD | June 14, 2009 at 9:51 am |

    One of the things that always amazed me about my college days was how intense some people got about playing ultimate frisbee. Great work on this story.

  • TMD | June 14, 2009 at 10:19 am |

    CAUTION: Soccer Related

    I’m having a slow morning watching the Confederations Cup and looking at some of the new EPL kits. I found one that I just had to share. Bolton.

    http://www.medocmall...

    I prefer the new sponsor logo and the loss of the Oregon State-styled sports bra, but what is going on with the bottom half of that thing?

  • Mark K | June 14, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    I always thought it was goofy that the name got shortened to “ultimate”.

  • Big Jake | June 14, 2009 at 10:53 am |

    Scoreboard Game:
    http://www.retroshee...

  • Mike Engle | June 14, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    This has to be the answer.
    Without giving too much away, my tip-offs were as follows:
    1) The scoreboard and the retired numbers give the location, and the two particular teams.
    2) One team’s lineup features one guy in particular, enabling the year to be absolutely definitive.
    3) Once you got the year from that player, the other team’s defensive alignment can pinpoint the exact day.

  • Teebz | June 14, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    I was asked the question yesterday regarding the new bottom of the Stanley Cup, so I directed the question to the Hockey Hall of Fame. They have yet to respond (being that it’s a weekend), but I am hoping they will provide some insight by Monday.

    Tony may be right, though, about the Cup needing a new ring. Because the Cup is kept year-round at the Hockey Hall of Fame, I’d imagine that the HHoF wants some free publicity for taking care of the trophy 24/7/365.

    If I get an answer from the source, I’ll let you guys know.

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    I got the scoreboard answer.

    A toughie? There were way too many clues on that board to call it a toughie.

  • drewdez | June 14, 2009 at 11:05 am |
  • Mike Calagna | June 14, 2009 at 11:13 am |
  • Tony in Erie | June 14, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    Nice to see you again Teebz. :)

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    ***SPOILER ALERT***
    [quote comment=”334860″]This has to be the answer.
    Without giving too much away, my tip-offs were as follows:
    1) The scoreboard and the retired numbers give the location, and the two particular teams.
    2) One team’s lineup features one guy in particular, enabling the year to be absolutely definitive.
    3) Once you got the year from that player, the other team’s defensive alignment can pinpoint the exact day.[/quote]
    ***SPOILER ALERT***
    Yeah, I noticed two guys who gave away the year:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    http://sports.yahoo....

    The latter player’s position is a clue to the relative point in the season (filling in for someone on the DL), as are Dye’s HR/RBI stats.

  • Mike Miller | June 14, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    Yeah, the scoreboard today was so easy, I managed to get in less than two minutes.

  • Beardface | June 14, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”334861″]Tony may be right, though, about the Cup needing a new ring.[/quote]
    The Cup’s new ring was added in 2006 for the Carolina Hurricanes…

    Picture showing new ring in 2007

    However, a new base could have been added when the bottom ring was removed last year when they were engraving the names of the Wings. However, the new base would have been seen at any function it was brought to thereafter, and I’m sure a change would have been documented and linked to here in the past.

    I believe I saw somewhere that the stand-in Cup has the HHOF base and the actual Cup has that leaf base. Looks to me that they screwed up and awarded the Pens the backup Cup.

  • Beardface | June 14, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”334869″][quote comment=”334861″]Tony may be right, though, about the Cup needing a new ring.[/quote]
    The Cup’s new ring was added in 2006 for the Carolina Hurricanes…

    Picture showing new ring in 2007

    However, a new base could have been added when the bottom ring was removed last year when they were engraving the names of the Wings. However, the new base would have been seen at any function it was brought to thereafter, and I’m sure a change would have been documented and linked to here in the past.

    I believe I saw somewhere that the stand-in Cup has the HHOF base and the actual Cup has that leaf base. Looks to me that they screwed up and awarded the Pens the backup Cup.[/quote]
    Whoops! forgot to link the picture…

    New ring for the Canes

  • Andy Bruinewoud | June 14, 2009 at 11:39 am |

    The Stanley Cup base does appear to have changed, with the updated Hockey Hall of Fame logo. Here is a better picture of the original logo (when the original HHOF opened in 1961) which used to adorn the base.

    The odd part is that the HHOF updated their logo when they moved to their downtown Toronto location … in 1993. My only guess is that they probably refurbished the trophy in the 1992-93 season (the Cup’s centennial) and didn’t need to do it again just to change the logo.

  • Mike Miller | June 14, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”334856″]CAUTION: Soccer Related

    I’m having a slow morning watching the Confederations Cup and looking at some of the new EPL kits. I found one that I just had to share. Bolton.

    http://www.medocmall...

    I prefer the new sponsor logo and the loss of the Oregon State-styled sports bra, but what is going on with the bottom half of that thing?[/quote]

    I don’t know, but I actually kind of like it. Their usual all-white shirts was just really boring. But hey, that matches the team’s style of play.

    I’ve watched ultimate in person, our city hosted one of the high school regionals this year, fun game, but definitely quirky. No referees, each team had like 20 players, but only 7 play at a time. Most teams had offensive and defensive units. And it’s strange to me how most of the teams will do anything to NOT wear their school colors. Virginia in green and gray? Wisconsin in light blue and black? WTF??

  • Baseball Almanac | June 14, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    baseball team

    […] I’m happy to be doing this unitrack for the Padres is just another fun way for me to get involved with my favorite baseball team. When I post in the comments section, I just go with my name – Tim Stoops. Take care everybody! Thanks Tim. … [……

  • Drew Hunziker | June 14, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    The bottom of the Stanley Cup was changed last year. Both cups now feature the newer HHOF logo.

  • Hockey Page | June 14, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    hockey

    […] Last night, the Pens paraded with a Stanley Cup that had the Hockey Hall of Fame logo on the bottom. To his knowledge, this is the first time… […]…

  • J Holbrook C | June 14, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    Thank you, Phil and Brian, for bringing to light the sport that kept me occupied during my first two semesters at Rhode Island College! As you can see, the status quo for ultimate players is short socks, usually no higher than the ankle and maybe a hat or headband of some sort. To me, short socks are the ultimate of equivalent of pajama pants in baseball. I understand the practicality and whatnot, but here at RIC, we like socks. Probably a little too much. Perhaps if we were all on the same page, it would work out better, uniwatch-wise. As far as the uni itself goes, our division three/small college budget/ambition supplies us with two simple jersey designs. Our team nickname \”RICdiculous\” displayed across a yellow jersey (underarmor-like material) in maroon lettering as well as a white shirt with the same maroon logo. Although we are nowhere near the caliber of Brian\’s Iowa team, it is interesting to see the variations in style from division to division. Where you have serious athletes versus weekend amatuers . Oh, and the sweater vest isn\’t such a bad look, either, right?

  • J Holbrook C | June 14, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    OK, so my url skills are akin to my ultimate skills….I’ll give it another shot.

  • J Holbrook C | June 14, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    Thank you, Phil and Brian, for bringing to light the sport that kept me occupied during my first two semesters at Rhode Island College! As you can see, the status quo for ultimate players is short socks, usually no higher than the ankle and maybe a hat or headband of some sort. To me, short socks are the ultimate of equivalent of pajama pants in baseball. I understand the practicality and whatnot, but here at RIC, we like socks. Probably a little too much. Perhaps if we were all on the same page, it would work out better, uniwatch-wise. As far as the uni itself goes, our division three/small college budget/ambition supplies us with two simple jersey designs. Our team nickname \\\”RICdiculous\\\” displayed across a yellow jersey (underarmor-like material) in maroon lettering as well as a white shirt with the same maroon logo. Although we are nowhere near the caliber of Brian\\\’s Iowa team, it is interesting to see the variations in style from division to division. Where you have serious athletes versus weekend amatuers . Oh, and the sweater vest isn\’t such a bad look, either, right?

  • J Holbrook C | June 14, 2009 at 12:24 pm |

    Ugh, forget it. Phil, feel free to eliminate this eyesore from the comments, In fact, I encourage it.

  • Teebz | June 14, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    You may want to use this as a quick reference note on the side of this blog, Paul.

    To link pictures properly, please use this quick reference HTML coding:

    1. Locate the phrase you want the link to reflect.
    2. At the start of the phrase, type [a href=” without the square bracket. Instead, replace the square bracket with the [a href=”mypicturehere.jpg – only with the symbol. Example: [a href=”mypicturehere.jpg”]
    5. Locate the end of the phrase you want to the link to reflect, and add a [/a] behind the last word in the phrase. Again, replace the square brackets with the symbol at the back of the “a”.
    6. Check your preview to ensure it was linked properly. :o)

    As an example, this would be the perfect way to illustrate an epic fail.

  • Teebz | June 14, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    Dammit… it eliminated my chatter on greater-than and less-than symbols.

    Never mind my above.

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    Yeah, take the example from Teebz and just replace the open brackets with “less than” signs and replace the close brackets with “greater than” signs.

    [ =

    So this:
    [a href=”http://www.rrr.org.au/assets/epic_fail.gif”]Great president or THE GREATEST president?[/a]

    becomes this:

    Great president or THE GREATEST president?

    When you substitute the greater/less thans for the open/close brackets.

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    Now it’s my turn to say “dammit”. This blog HATES Greater than and less than signs.

  • =bg= | June 14, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    nice baseball wallpaper here, in multi-sizes;

    http://interfacelift...

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    Let’s see if this works.

    “]” = “>”.

    and

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    Of course not.

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    OK, last attempt…

    Forget about the brackets.

    this:

    <a href="http://www.rrr.org.a... fail</a>

    becomes this:

    epic fail

  • Peter | June 14, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    The reason for my screen name is that in 1994, after the Rangers victory parade, I was handed THE CUP by Nick Kypreos and Glenn Healy. Healy carried THE CUP like a sack of potatoes and Kypreos had a tray in his hand with three beers on top. I did not realize at the time that the tray was the plastic bottome to THE CUP.

    I asked if I could pick it up. When I lifted it over my head, I almost dropped it because the beer tray was not screwed on properly.

    My recollection is that the base back then was the NHL logo. I will search my pix and see if it is noticeable.

  • elliott | June 14, 2009 at 1:16 pm |
  • aflfan | June 14, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    Not only are the Tigers and the Pirates wearing their 1909 uniforms today. No music and the scoreboard is turned off as well.

  • Travis P. | June 14, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    Thanks, Tim! Great work on the Padres uni-tracking. Your camo jersey description was spot on! I like that they have switched to the coordinating olive drab batting helmets in recent years. The blue helmets made the camo jerseys seem like an afterthought.

    Thanks again. I can’t wait for another update!

  • LarryB | June 14, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    Pirates and Tigers wearing throwbacks from I think they said 1909

    Pretty cool

  • LI Phil | June 14, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    wanna thank everyone yesterday who “participated” in the “alternate logo” bit…if you have any others you’ve done, either send em to me (im keeping a file) or post em here…

    and i think i finally figured out how to do the simple ones in under 3 minutes now

    here’s how the old jets helmets might have looked if they used the 78 redesign with 68 colors

  • ChrisSh | June 14, 2009 at 2:57 pm |

    I think any discussion of Ultimate should include the Cheap Seats discussion on the “ultimate” Ultimate player – Ken Dobbins.

    http://video.google....

  • LarryB | June 14, 2009 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=\”334890\”]Not only are the Tigers and the Pirates wearing their 1909 uniforms today. No music and the scoreboard is turned off as well.[/quote]

    Missed this comment. Yes it is nice to have no music too.

  • aflfan | June 14, 2009 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”334896″][quote comment=\”334890\”]Not only are the Tigers and the Pirates wearing their 1909 uniforms today. No music and the scoreboard is turned off as well.[/quote]

    Missed this comment. Yes it is nice to have no music too.[/quote]

    A few of the player (Cabrera for the Tigers and Pittsburgh’s pitcher) have cut down the length of the uniform sleeves.

  • JoshF. | June 14, 2009 at 3:05 pm |
  • Jeff P | June 14, 2009 at 3:33 pm |

    Re the cup: The old logo was the old HHoF logo, They just changed the base, and when they did so, they went ahead and updated and expanded the logo. The replica cup has no logo on the base. The base is wood, so it does get replaced every once in a while.

    As for Peter’s story, the 94 rangers broke the cup off. I forget who did it, but they had to change the way it was attached, and the join between the cup and the neck is a little thicker now thanks to the repair. You probably got it while it was repaired temporarily, which would be why it was loose.

    So yeah, just ta new base and the HHoF decided they wanted their logo to be more noticeable on the new one. Still the presentation cup.

  • Johnny O | June 14, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    There is a great article on Brewers.com about bullpen pitchers and their antics. On Brewers.com they show Todd Coffey in a bullpen cart. Here is the image:
    http://i147.photobuc...

    Here is the article:
    http://milwaukee.bre...

  • aflfan | June 14, 2009 at 4:07 pm |

    Sean Burnett of the Pirates shorten the sleeve on his pitching arm but left the other one long.

  • Peter | June 14, 2009 at 5:18 pm |

    “The University of Oregon football team isn’t the only sports team that has a look that hurts your eyes. Their women’s ultimate jersey was pure Oregon.”

    You people can’t pass up an opportunity to knock my school, can you? As an Oregon student, I can attest to the fact that pretty much everyone here loves our colors and our uniforms for all our teams, especially our football team. The students like them, the fans like them, the players like them, so that’s really all that matters.

    You can make all the jokes you want about our football uniforms, but the fact of the matter is, if your team comes to Autzen Stadium, you’re probably going to lose. End of story.

    So how about getting off your high horses and leaving us the fuck alone?

  • Dylan | June 14, 2009 at 5:28 pm |

    great to see an entry about the sport i played my freshman and sophomore years of hs (06-07, 07-08), which i had to stop because of baseball becoming a greater commitment during the same season.
    we were the blue demons (which is our school’s nickname, although we don’t have a standardized logo). our jerseys were pretty nice, solid baby blue with a black demon head, black number on the back; and solid black with baby blue demon head, white numbers on back.

    Confederations Cup this afternoon, Spain was wearing this: http://soccer.fanhou...

    55 sec mark of that video has a good shot of it. i personally love it, great mix of colors. is this a new jersey for any of the soccer people out there?

  • Mike Engle | June 14, 2009 at 5:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”334902″]”The University of Oregon football team isn’t the only sports team that has a look that hurts your eyes. Their women’s ultimate jersey was pure Oregon.”

    You people can’t pass up an opportunity to knock my school, can you? As an Oregon student, I can attest to the fact that pretty much everyone here loves our colors and our uniforms for all our teams, especially our football team. The students like them, the fans like them, the players like them, so that’s really all that matters.

    You can make all the jokes you want about our football uniforms, but the fact of the matter is, if your team comes to Autzen Stadium, you’re probably going to lose. End of story.

    So how about getting off your high horses and leaving us the fuck alone?[/quote]
    It’s a bright color, but it’s that Lightning Yellow that is so distinct, I could tell it was Oregon a mile away based on how it hit my eyes.
    But is there anything wrong with me longing for some green shorts, for a bit of contrast and balance? No. And is there anything wrong with not liking the random floating vertical OREGON on the shorts? No. It’s something the football team does as well as the Ultimate team, and it doesn’t look good anywhere. It’s an opinion.
    Maybe it’s time for you to get off your high horse. End of story.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 14, 2009 at 5:58 pm |

    Peter,

    As a native Oregonian, I can understand the frustration with others calling out the Ducks with their bright yellow gear. This article was Brian’s opinion about the different designs on these uniforms. He did not single out the Ducks by saying, “Yellow looks like crap.”

    But remember this is not a school supported team, this is a club team. The team could have chosen any design for their uniform as you have seen with the others. Instead, they chose the Ducks’ color scheme. Does this make they worse for doing it, no. Any club team can choose their own design because it does not have to get past the athletic director’s desk. They felt that it was easiest to do something by sticking with the school colors.

    Many of the teams had references that many of us did not understand unless Brian linked to them. They could have called themselves the Marionberries and people would have those that it was a cruel joke on Washington, DC, but for us it is a fruit.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Andrew Dixon | June 14, 2009 at 5:59 pm |

    Say, I like the alternate coloring of the Padres logo in today’s post (using brown instead of blue). Is that a coloring of it in use by the Padres? I think they should go back to brown as their primary; it’s very distinctive.

  • Jeremy Brahm | June 14, 2009 at 6:00 pm |

    thought that it was a cruel joke

  • LI Phil | June 14, 2009 at 6:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”334902″]”The University of Oregon football team isn’t the only sports team that has a look that hurts your eyes. Their women’s ultimate jersey was pure Oregon.”

    You people can’t pass up an opportunity to knock my school, can you? As an Oregon student, I can attest to the fact that pretty much everyone here loves our colors and our uniforms for all our teams, especially our football team. The students like them, the fans like them, the players like them, so that’s really all that matters.

    You can make all the jokes you want about our football uniforms, but the fact of the matter is, if your team comes to Autzen Stadium, you’re probably going to lose. End of story.

    So how about getting off your high horses and leaving us the fuck alone?[/quote]

    peter

    you’re welcome to your opinion, as is everyone else on this board, but i’d prefer you didn’t take that tone

    brian (for the most part wrote that main article) and whom you quoted expressed an opinion on the oregon uniforms … im not sure who the “you people” comment was directed to, but if you’re talking about the majority of the posters on this board, perhaps they have a point … brian’s article was well researched, well written, and was in no way inflammatory, and was in no way taking any undue shots at oregon — they had a team in the tournament, and he was commenting on the uniform they wore — it’s his opinion and you don’t have to agree with it, but you have to respect it

    personally, if you read last weekend’s “uni confession” i actually said i LOVED oregon’s lightning football uni, so if anything, your anger is misplaced … but i can certainly understand the distain for the bright colors and/or the folks from beaverton who clad them in such that are occasionally expressed as opinions on these boards

  • Mike Miller | June 14, 2009 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”334904″]great to see an entry about the sport i played my freshman and sophomore years of hs (06-07, 07-08), which i had to stop because of baseball becoming a greater commitment during the same season.
    we were the blue demons (which is our school’s nickname, although we don’t have a standardized logo). our jerseys were pretty nice, solid baby blue with a black demon head, black number on the back; and solid black with baby blue demon head, white numbers on back.

    Confederations Cup this afternoon, Spain was wearing this: http://soccer.fanhou...

    55 sec mark of that video has a good shot of it. i personally love it, great mix of colors. is this a new jersey for any of the soccer people out there?[/quote]

    It’s new for Spain. It’s based on the new adidas Tiro uniform that came out this winter. The club I coach for is going to those this fall. Houston Dynamo of MLS is wearing them this year.

    http://www.soccermag...

    http://www.football-...

  • rpm | June 14, 2009 at 7:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”334902″]”The University of Oregon football team isn’t the only sports team that has a look that hurts your eyes. Their women’s ultimate jersey was pure Oregon.”

    You people can’t pass up an opportunity to knock my school, can you? As an Oregon student, I can attest to the fact that pretty much everyone here loves our colors and our uniforms for all our teams, especially our football team. The students like them, the fans like them, the players like them, so that’s really all that matters.

    You can make all the jokes you want about our football uniforms, but the fact of the matter is, if your team comes to Autzen Stadium, you’re probably going to lose. End of story.

    So how about getting off your high horses and leaving us the fuck alone?[/quote]

    this isn’t serious right? i mean it couldn’t be. either way, after the miserable weekend i have had, i needed a good laugh. oh well, the moment is over, back to my mourning. oh wait, ha ha ha, i guess i had one more chuckle left in me. thanks peter, you’re a real funny duck.

  • Brian | June 14, 2009 at 7:35 pm |

    [quote comment=\”334902\”]\”The University of Oregon football team isn’t the only sports team that has a look that hurts your eyes. Their women’s ultimate jersey was pure Oregon.\”

    You people can\’t pass up an opportunity to knock my school, can you? As an Oregon student, I can attest to the fact that pretty much everyone here loves our colors and our uniforms for all our teams, especially our football team. The students like them, the fans like them, the players like them, so that\’s really all that matters.

    You can make all the jokes you want about our football uniforms, but the fact of the matter is, if your team comes to Autzen Stadium, you\’re probably going to lose. End of story.

    So how about getting off your high horses and leaving us the fuck alone?[/quote]

    As Phil said, I was just stating my opinion. The jersey is pretty popular in the Ultimate community.

  • Brian | June 14, 2009 at 7:37 pm |

    Screwed up that last post. Here’s the link

  • Will | June 14, 2009 at 7:50 pm |

    For all the soccer fans: Italy and South Africa have new jerseys for the Confederations Cup (which started today in South Africa).

    Check them out here:
    http://spotkicks.wor...

    (Sorry, I’m not sure how to post hyperlinks without posting the entire address.)

  • Scott | June 14, 2009 at 8:18 pm |

    Hey Peter the Oregon buff and Autzen historian, I’ve got three words for ya:

    Indiana Hoosiers football.

    3-4 years ago the mighty (last-place) Loosiers came to Nautzen. Did you go home happy that night?

    Yeah, when your school decides to back away from FEATURING day-glo, and reflective material … and then brag about the 64 combinations … well, we’ll stop mocking Oregon. BTW, Oregon is the only school to get tournament-specific uniforms in basketball, only to be left out of every possible tournament this year … because they were terrible!

    Sheesh, it’s not even hard to mock what with all the nonsense.

  • Jay | June 14, 2009 at 8:23 pm |

    The base for the Cup was changed during the last offseason. It was mentioned on the Hall of Fame website’s “Stanley Cup Diaries” page when Def Leppard got the Cup for the season opening concert and proceeded to put it on a table upside down. The excerpt is as follows:

    “Whether the Cup was intentionally placed upside down has fuelled rabid debate. If nothing else, and trying to find the silver lining, the incident gave viewers the chance to see the Hockey Hall of Fame’s current logo newly engraved on the bottom of hockey’s greatest trophy.”

    http://www.hhof.com/...

  • Eddie | June 14, 2009 at 8:35 pm |

    It’s always a shame when one of our posts turns into an arguing session. I can understand the viewpoint held by both, but what turns a debate into bickering is when we resort to the name calling (which it seems we’ve all been doing a lot more of recently).

  • JimV19 | June 14, 2009 at 9:23 pm |

    I would’ve voted for the Santa Barbara girls’ unis over the Dartmouth ones. Pleated skirts trump wild stripes. Loved the VA Night Train grays with the trains on the lines. Thanks for a nice change of pace with this topic. Yesterday’s topic was great too.

    As for the whole Oregon thing, I just had this thought: People say “Real Men Wear Black,” but that’s too easy now because it’s expected. I say real men (or women) wear lightning yellow…and they should do so proudly but with quiet dignity. It’s a test of one’s manhood (or womanhood) to wear something so polarizing. Let’s face it – people either love the Oregon unis or they hate them. That being said, if you’re going to wear something that bold, be prepared for criticism or wear something else.

    Personally, I love the colors but really dislike the design. That’s just my opinion, though, and I’m not saying you should change it.

  • JimV19 | June 14, 2009 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”334896″][quote comment=\”334890\”]Not only are the Tigers and the Pirates wearing their 1909 uniforms today. No music and the scoreboard is turned off as well.[/quote]

    Missed this comment. Yes it is nice to have no music too.[/quote]

    Does that mean Baseball Tonight won’t have any highlights because there was no TV in 1909?

  • JimV19 | June 14, 2009 at 10:00 pm |

    Matt Dunn, good job on the alt. colors and switcheroos. My favorites were the Hawks in green and blue, or the Jets in the NY Titans colors. The OKC Thunder and the Texans came in 2nd.

    How about switcherooing Michigan and Ohio State, or the Eagles and Giants? Maybe UNC and Duke?

    Just don’t switcheroo the Steelers and Raiders, ’cause that would be like mixing matter and anti-matter, and the world may cease to exist…

  • =bg= | June 14, 2009 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”334902″]”The University of Oregon football team isn’t the only sports team that has a look that hurts your eyes. Their women’s ultimate jersey was pure Oregon.”

    You people can’t pass up an opportunity to knock my school, can you? As an Oregon student, I can attest to the fact that pretty much everyone here loves our colors and our uniforms for all our teams, especially our football team. The students like them, the fans like them, the players like them, so that’s really all that matters.

    You can make all the jokes you want about our football uniforms, but the fact of the matter is, if your team comes to Autzen Stadium, you’re probably going to lose. End of story.

    So how about getting off your high horses and leaving us the fuck alone?[/quote]

    I love it when guys who don’t post here often come on and use the F word. Makes ’em seem tougher, I guess.

  • David Murphy | June 14, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    Booby Cox has always worn stirrups…and metal spikes. Gotta hurt with those 2 knee replacements he had a few years back.

    Ultimate…did you know that Hollywood producer Joel Silver (Matrix, Lethal Weapon, etc) is credited with “inventing” Ultimate Frisbee? In high school he played a version at summer camp, then wrote up a set of rules. In college he organized the first college team.

  • JimV19 | June 14, 2009 at 10:24 pm |

    Just saw the Tigers/Pirates photos. Pirates won the game but lost the battle of the unis. I really like the vertical stripes on the Tigers hat.

  • Hibbs | June 14, 2009 at 10:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”334902″]”The University of Oregon football team isn’t the only sports team that has a look that hurts your eyes. Their women’s ultimate jersey was pure Oregon.”

    You people can’t pass up an opportunity to knock my school, can you? As an Oregon student, I can attest to the fact that pretty much everyone here loves our colors and our uniforms for all our teams, especially our football team. The students like them, the fans like them, the players like them, so that’s really all that matters.

    You can make all the jokes you want about our football uniforms, but the fact of the matter is, if your team comes to Autzen Stadium, you’re probably going to lose. End of story.

    So how about getting off your high horses and leaving us the fuck alone?[/quote]

    Chill, homie.
    After all, we’re just talking about unis. I’ve been passionate about them for 31 of my 36 and a half years. That caused me to say things that I regretted last week. I upset some people while on my high horse, and I felt bad about it. I feared banishment.
    I’ve realized there is no use getting upset when 90 percent of all uniforms these days suck anyway

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 10:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”334903″]Chicago Bears logo with Chicago Cardinals’ colors
    [/quote]Did the cards ever wear a color that close to burgundy?[quote]
    Charlotte Bobcats logo with Charlotte Hornets’ colors
    [/quote]Not bad[quote]
    Current Denver Broncos logo with old colors
    [/quote]Don’t let Ricko see that.[quote]
    Current Cleveland Cavaliers logo with old colors

    Current Memphis Grizzlies logo with old colors
    [/quote]Meh to both of these.[quote]
    Current Atlanta Hawks logo with old colors
    [/quote]It’s been said many times here but I’ll say it again: My eyes! THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING![quote]
    Current Utah Jazz logo with old colors
    [/quote]This is a keeper.[quote]
    New York Jets logo with New York Titans’ colors
    [/quote]Not too shabby.[quote]
    Current Sacramento Kings logo with old colors
    Alternate Los Angeles Lakers logo with Minneapolis Lakers’ colors
    [/quote]Meh part deux.[quote]

    Current Dallas Mavericks logo with old colors
    [/quote]I like.[quote]
    Old Denver Nuggets logo with current colors
    [/quote]FANTASTIC!.[quote]
    Current San Antonio Spurs logo with old colors
    [/quote]God, no.[quote]
    Houston Texans logo with Houston Oilers’ colors
    [/quote]Yes.[quote]
    Oklahoma City Thunder with Seattle Supersonics’ colors
    [/quote]The turd has been polished…[quote]
    Washington Wizards logo with Washington Bullets’ colors
    [/quote]…but you can’t catch lightning in a bottle twice.[quote]
    This switcheroo might rile up some Iowan Uni Watchers:

    Iowa with Iowa State’s colors
    [/quote]The “meh” hat trick.[quote]
    Iowa State with Iowa’s colors
    [/quote]Separated at birth?

  • TomV | June 14, 2009 at 10:47 pm |

    forgive me, I live in Orlando, but were those the stupidest/worst NBA championship hats the Lakers got?

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 10:49 pm |

    OK, so earlier tonight, I was listening to Axis of Justice Radio and Tom Morello mentioned that the show was taped in Pittsburgh, so he rattled off some of his favorite Pittsburgh-related stuff — band: Anti-Flag, person: Roberto Clemente, sports moment: the Immaculate Reception.

    He goes on to say that Franco Harris was the first African-American and also the first Italian-American to be named Super Bowl MVP. (Obviously, this hit home with Tom, as he also belongs to both of these ethnic groups.)

    Do I have a point? Well, this “double first” is probably not news to a great number of you reading this but for some reason, I always thought that Joe Namath was part Italian on his mother’s side. Apparently not. Or was Mr. Morello mistaken?

  • LI Phil | June 14, 2009 at 10:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”334930″]OK, so earlier tonight, I was listening to Axis of Justice Radio and Tom Morello mentioned that the show was taped in Pittsburgh, so he rattled off some of his favorite Pittsburgh-related stuff — band: Anti-Flag, person: Roberto Clemente, sports moment: the Immaculate Reception.

    He goes on to say that Franco Harris was the first African-American and also the first Italian-American to be named Super Bowl MVP. (Obviously, this hit home with Tom, as he also belongs to both of these ethnic groups.)

    Do I have a point? Well, this “double first” is probably not news to a great number of you reading this but for some reason, I always thought that Joe Namath was part Italian on his mother’s side. Apparently not. Or was Mr. Morello mistaken?[/quote]

    well…to tell the family secret, his grandmother was dutch

  • Matt Dunn | June 14, 2009 at 10:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”334922″]Matt Dunn, good job on the alt. colors and switcheroos. My favorites were the Hawks in green and blue, or the Jets in the NY Titans colors. The OKC Thunder and the Texans came in 2nd.

    How about switcherooing Michigan and Ohio State, or the Eagles and Giants? Maybe UNC and Duke?

    Just don’t switcheroo the Steelers and Raiders, ’cause that would be like mixing matter and anti-matter, and the world may cease to exist…[/quote]

    Michigan and Ohio State

    Eagles and Giants

    Duke and North Carolina

    I’m sorry JimV19, but I had to do it. Blame me if the end of the world approaches while this blog entry’s comments are still open.

    Steelers and Raiders

    I’m having a lot of fun with these. Anyone have more for me to do? :-D

  • TomV | June 14, 2009 at 11:00 pm |

    Did you see Kobe kissing the trophy and wishing it was the stanley cup, he could raise it over his head and walk around the court with it? This really seems forced.

  • ChillicotheCraig | June 14, 2009 at 11:00 pm |

    Anyone who says the Cavs logo looks better in the current colors than in the old colors is totally blind!!

    Thanks Matt Dunn

  • TomV | June 14, 2009 at 11:02 pm |

    and Phil Jacksons “X” hat? I’d be pissed if I was a Laker fan, not like he won all 10 with them. Lakers should be dead to everything he did before he got there. Nice gesture, but the delivery was 100% wrong.

  • Mike Calagna | June 14, 2009 at 11:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”334932″][quote comment=”334922″]Matt Dunn, good job on the alt. colors and switcheroos. My favorites were the Hawks in green and blue, or the Jets in the NY Titans colors. The OKC Thunder and the Texans came in 2nd.

    How about switcherooing Michigan and Ohio State, or the Eagles and Giants? Maybe UNC and Duke?

    Just don’t switcheroo the Steelers and Raiders, ’cause that would be like mixing matter and anti-matter, and the world may cease to exist…[/quote]

    Michigan and Ohio State

    Eagles and Giants

    Duke and North Carolina

    I’m sorry JimV19, but I had to do it. Blame me if the end of the world approaches while this blog entry’s comments are still open.

    Steelers and Raiders

    I’m having a lot of fun with these. Anyone have more for me to do? :-D[/quote]

    Got a few…

    Giants and Cowboys….Rangers and Islanders….University of South Carolina and Clemson

  • Tim Stoops | June 14, 2009 at 11:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”334907″]Say, I like the alternate coloring of the Padres logo in today’s post (using brown instead of blue). Is that a coloring of it in use by the Padres? I think they should go back to brown as their primary; it’s very distinctive.[/quote]
    I don’t know who did that mockup. I love the Padres brown and yellow of years past. I wish they’d just permanently go back to 1974-75 uniforms, which I consider the best in their history.

    I am not particularly fond of the brown and yellow on that current Padres logo. The reason being is the logo has water/waves in it. By taking out the blue and white, you now have brown and yellow water. Yuck. Don’t drink the water.

    To add to my road alternate observation, the Padres wore the blue tops for all three games in Anaheim this weekend, got swept and we’re outscored by 19 runs. Leave those at home!!

  • Mike Engle | June 14, 2009 at 11:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”334937″][quote comment=”334907″]Say, I like the alternate coloring of the Padres logo in today’s post (using brown instead of blue). Is that a coloring of it in use by the Padres? I think they should go back to brown as their primary; it’s very distinctive.[/quote]
    I don’t know who did that mockup. I love the Padres brown and yellow of years past. I wish they’d just permanently go back to 1974-75 uniforms, which I consider the best in their history.

    I am not particularly fond of the brown and yellow on that current Padres logo. The reason being is the logo has water/waves in it. By taking out the blue and white, you now have brown and yellow water. Yuck. Don’t drink the water.

    To add to my road alternate observation, the Padres wore the blue tops for all three games in Anaheim this weekend, got swept and we’re outscored by 19 runs. Leave those at home in the dumpster!![/quote]
    Fixed.

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 11:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”334937″]
    I am not particularly fond of the brown and yellow on that current Padres logo. The reason being is the logo has water/waves in it. By taking out the blue and white, you now have brown and yellow water. Yuck. Don’t drink the water.
    [/quote]
    If it’s brown, drink it down. If it’s black, send it back.

  • BurghFan | June 14, 2009 at 11:14 pm |

    I was at today’s Pirates-Tigers game:

    -It’s always fun to see how the throwbacks go; this was swell.

    -It’s always fun to see the Stanley Cup.

    -I can’t overstate how pleasant it is to attend a game where you can carry on a conversation between innings without having to compete with the PA.

    -If someone recorded the game, there are interesting variations on pants leg length on Zumaya in the eighth inning and Freddy Sanchez pretty much all game.

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”334929″]forgive me, I live in Orlando, but were those the stupidest/worst NBA championship hats the Lakers got?[/quote]
    Not by a longshot. I’ve got two in my personal collection that are infinitely worse (Bulls ′96 & ′98).

  • LI Phil | June 14, 2009 at 11:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”334942″][quote comment=”334929″]forgive me, I live in Orlando, but were those the stupidest/worst NBA championship hats the Lakers got?[/quote]
    Not by a longshot. I’ve got two in my personal collection that are infinitely worse (Bulls ′96 & ′98).[/quote]

    worse than your liverpool kit top?

  • Matt | June 14, 2009 at 11:28 pm |

    RE: STANLEY CUP

    Three Cups exist – the ‘original’ which has been retired since 1962 and sits in a display case, the ‘presentation’ that travels on the road and is presented to the champions and the ‘house’ cup that is on display at the HHOF when the ‘presentation’ is on the road. The ‘house’ cup only ever leaves the premise when the band is being updated with the current winners.

    The new base was added as part of some maintenance that performed on the cup this past winter. The logo (either logo) only appears on the presentation cup, so the two cannot be confused. Apparently, the base was in need of repair and instead of putting the OLD HHOF logo (torch + banner with flame in the shape of a leaf) back on, they decided to update it and put the new logo in its place (long over due) and did so without letting the NHL know.

    The cup that has been touched by Stanley Cup winners since 1962 was presented to the Penguins the other night, it just has been ‘updated’ a little bit. In my opinion, they made the right decision to replace the outdated HHOF logo with the new one, making the connection with the establishment that is responsible for it a little more evident.

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 11:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”334935″]and Phil Jacksons “X” hat? I’d be pissed if I was a Laker fan, not like he won all 10 with them. Lakers should be dead to everything he did before he got there. Nice gesture, but the delivery was 100% wrong.[/quote]
    As a Bulls fan, should I be pissed? Because it doesn’t bother me one bit.

    Let’s do a hypothetical flip. Phil wins his first six with the Lakers and comes to the Bulls and wins four more, including one TONIGHT. Am I at all irritated by a cap commemorating a personal milestone? Highly doubtful.

  • JTH | June 14, 2009 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”334943″][quote comment=”334942″][quote comment=”334929″]forgive me, I live in Orlando, but were those the stupidest/worst NBA championship hats the Lakers got?[/quote]
    Not by a longshot. I’ve got two in my personal collection that are infinitely worse (Bulls ′96 & ′98).[/quote]

    worse than your liverpool kit top?[/quote]
    No.

  • Matt Dunn | June 14, 2009 at 11:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”334936″]Got a few…

    Giants and Cowboys….Rangers and Islanders….University of South Carolina and Clemson[/quote]

    Cowboys and Giants

    Rangers and Islanders

    South Carolina and Clemson

  • Matt | June 14, 2009 at 11:44 pm |

    I need to amend my post RE: Stanley Cup.

    – The ‘original’ was retired in 1968, and was not announced by the NHL at the time. It was just kind of… swapped. The ‘replica’ bowl that was made in the early 1960’s was placed on the newer band system and handed out to the winners.
    – Another difference between the house and presentation cup is that the house is 100% silver and the presentation is 90% silver, 10% nickel, making it 5 lbs lighter and giving it a much nicer shine.
    – The ‘house’ cup has NEVER been presented. It has never traveled outside of the Hall except to be engraved, and no logo has ever appeared on its base (how do I know? I have seen the underside on many, many occasions).

    Hopefully this can clear up some of the confusion over the change.

    http://www.hhof.com/...
    The logo that appeared on the base of the Stanley Cup. I believe the second banner says “Stanley Cup” but I cannot remember for sure.

  • TomV | June 14, 2009 at 11:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”334946″][quote comment=”334935″]and Phil Jacksons “X” hat? I’d be pissed if I was a Laker fan, not like he won all 10 with them. Lakers should be dead to everything he did before he got there. Nice gesture, but the delivery was 100% wrong.[/quote]
    As a Bulls fan, should I be pissed? Because it doesn’t bother me one bit.

    Let’s do a hypothetical flip. Phil wins his first six with the Lakers and comes to the Bulls and wins four more, including one TONIGHT. Am I at all irritated by a cap commemorating a personal milestone? Highly doubtful.[/quote]

    Hell, if I were you in that situation, I’d be like “take that crap off”. you’re current job is your most important. again, nice gesture, 100% bad delivery.

  • TomV | June 14, 2009 at 11:46 pm |

    Any of you guys got the fishsticks logo in Stranger colors?

  • Mike Calagna | June 14, 2009 at 11:48 pm |

    Matt…you are the unoffical king of unimashups…nice work

  • Puff | June 14, 2009 at 11:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”334894″]wanna thank everyone yesterday who “participated” in the “alternate logo” bit…if you have any others you’ve done, either send em to me (im keeping a file) or post em here…

    and i think i finally figured out how to do the simple ones in under 3 minutes now

    here’s how the old jets helmets might have looked if they used the 78 redesign with 68 colors[/quote]

    I have too much time on my hands…

  • Mike Calagna | June 14, 2009 at 11:58 pm |

    This is probably my favorite topic ever discussed on this blog

  • LI Phil | June 15, 2009 at 12:07 am |

    [quote comment=”334951″]Any of you guys got the fishsticks logo in Stranger colors?[/quote]

    this is just wrong…i gotta get tomorrow’s post ready

    but here

    /done

  • Johnny O | June 15, 2009 at 12:14 am |

    Monday is “Major League” day in Cleveland, in honor of the 1989 film that featured Brewers broadcaster Bob Uecker, and all fans in attendance will receive a bobblehead doll featuring fictional Indians closer Rick Vaughn. Uecker will throw a ceremonial first pitch.

  • JimV19 | June 15, 2009 at 12:24 am |

    [quote comment=”334932″][quote comment=”334922″]Matt Dunn, good job on the alt. colors and switcheroos. My favorites were the Hawks in green and blue, or the Jets in the NY Titans colors. The OKC Thunder and the Texans came in 2nd.

    How about switcherooing Michigan and Ohio State, or the Eagles and Giants? Maybe UNC and Duke?

    Just don’t switcheroo the Steelers and Raiders, ’cause that would be like mixing matter and anti-matter, and the world may cease to exist…[/quote]

    Michigan and Ohio State

    Eagles and Giants

    Duke and North Carolina

    I’m sorry JimV19, but I had to do it. Blame me if the end of the world approaches while this blog entry’s comments are still open.

    Steelers and Raiders

    I’m having a lot of fun with these. Anyone have more for me to do? :-D[/quote]

    So I was doing some other stuff online, including looking at the latest news headlines. “N. Korea Threatens Nuclear War” was the big story…then I come back here and see you switched the Steelers and Raiders. See? I told you not to play with fire!! What’s the line from the comics – “With great power comes great responsibility.”

    Anyway, good job. The UM/OSU switch was so wrong and yet so right.

  • JimV19 | June 15, 2009 at 12:34 am |

    Hey Matt, how about switching Oregon and Oregon State?

    USC/UCLA?

    USC/Notre Dame?

    Texas/Oklahoma?

    And for our friends up north…

    Hamilton Tiger-Cats/Toronto Argonauts?

    Calgary Stampeders/Edmonton Eskimos?

    I can’t stop…

  • Matt Dunn | June 15, 2009 at 12:37 am |

    Chicago Cubs and White Sox

    New York Yankees and Mets

  • Mike Engle | June 15, 2009 at 12:47 am |

    [quote comment=”334956″]Monday is “Major League” day in Cleveland, in honor of the 1989 film that featured Brewers broadcaster Bob Uecker, and all fans in attendance will receive a bobblehead doll featuring fictional Indians closer Rick Vaughn. Uecker will throw a ceremonial first pitch.[/quote]
    It better be just a bit outside.

  • Matt Dunn | June 15, 2009 at 1:05 am |

    Oregon and Oregon State

    USC and Notre Dame

    Texas and Oklahoma

    Haha, I think I’m finished for tonight.

  • stirpey | June 15, 2009 at 1:45 am |

    [quote comment=”334941″]cowboys star in g-men colors

    jets logo in giants colors

    giants logo in jets colors

    and one more i did today:

    d-bags phallic logo in old colorscheme[/quote]

    quick question:

    Seeing all these rival color mix ups it reminds me of when New Era had that set of rival mixup hats, I didn’t do too much digging online tonight but I remember the consensus was that the UW group disapproved and now everyone is in love with the idea because it’s not a large company doing what they can to make a profit; just some guys (and possibly ladies) having fun on photoshop? I mean, I love double standards, but come on, either you like the idea or think its stupid.

    I credit those who did do the switches, because they were very nicely done, I will never take away from artistic talent, but this is the same group who hated new era for releasing caps that came in rival colors, like yanks in sox color hat, and dodgers and SF, im sure you all remember!

  • Puff | June 15, 2009 at 2:19 am |

    [quote comment=\”334963\”]Oregon and Oregon State

    USC and Notre Dame

    Texas and Oklahoma

    Haha, I think I\’m finished for tonight.[/quote]

    Permission to come in for the hold? :D

    [quote comment=\”334960\”]And for our friends up north…

    Hamilton Tiger-Cats/Toronto Argonauts?

    Calgary Stampeders/Edmonton Eskimos?

    I can\’t stop…[/quote]

    (Sorry for the somewhat poor quality on these…source pics weren’t very good.)
    Argos
    Tiger-Cats
    Eskimos
    Stampeders

  • Puff | June 15, 2009 at 2:21 am |

    Attack of the backslashes? Trying again…

    Argos
    Tiger-Cats
    Eskimos
    Stampeders

  • Chris | June 15, 2009 at 2:36 am |

    This post is so late nobody will probably read it but I’ll write it anyway. Glad to see Ultimate getting some love on uniwatch. I played at Tufts (we were the emen, a play on the official school mascot the Jumbos) Alway written as TuftsEmen (get it) when I was there. Anyway it is called just Ultimate now because Frisbee is a copyrighted product and the official disc is made by Discraft so they legally can’t use the term Ultimate Frisbee.

  • Josh Petty | June 15, 2009 at 3:28 am |

    Just curious, are we going to get a uniform breakdown this year for the teams participating the the 2009 College World Series, like we did last year?

  • Josh Petty | June 15, 2009 at 3:30 am |

    [quote comment=”334968″]Just curious, are we going to get a uniform breakdown this year for the teams participating the the 2009 College World Series, like we did last year?[/quote]

    Wow…My bad. I just flat overlooked it. That’s always one of my favorite columns. Thanks for the good work on that one.

  • JimV19 | June 15, 2009 at 7:18 am |

    [quote comment=”334963″]Oregon and Oregon State

    USC and Notre Dame

    Texas and Oklahoma

    Haha, I think I’m finished for tonight.[/quote]

    You went out strong, Matt. Good stuff!

  • JimV19 | June 15, 2009 at 7:25 am |

    [quote comment=”334966″]Attack of the backslashes? Trying again…

    Argos
    Tiger-Cats
    Eskimos
    Stampeders[/quote]

    The blue Ti-Cats logo is awesome! They may not let me into Ivor Wynne Stadium next time I travel to Hamilton for suggesting this, but I had to see it. Thanks!

  • Louise | June 16, 2009 at 5:13 am |

    San Diego Padres should be always competitive enough to keep pace with the others. I really like them; they’ve always been my favourite teams in MLB. Just read about them here:

    http://www.padreshom...

  • Peter | June 16, 2009 at 5:14 am |

    [quote comment=”334917″]Hey Peter the Oregon buff and Autzen historian, I’ve got three words for ya:

    Indiana Hoosiers football.

    3-4 years ago the mighty (last-place) Loosiers came to Nautzen. Did you go home happy that night?
    [/quote]

    I like how you use our football team’s one losing season in the past 15 years as the basis for your argument. It’s not like we were in the running for a national championship and it was a huge upset.

    Anyway, apologies if I posted in a bit of a snit, but I’ve just gotten a bit tired of the Ducks being the butt of jokes on this site. People like Paul have been calling us douche bags for years, and it does seem like we have been unfairly singled out for abuse. Personally, I appreciate that whoever is in charge of the uniforms has the guts to completely throw tradition out the window and do something nobody’s seen before. I would like to see Donald Duck make a comeback though.

    Plus, if it’s made by Nike, people around Eugene will probably give it the thumbs up. Uncle Phil (Knight) has gotten us some awfully nice stuff in recent years (basketball arena, autzen renovation with some really nice lockers, etc.).

    Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to wash the puke off my keyboard after seeing that Oregon logo in Oregon State colors!

  • Crosby | June 17, 2009 at 7:40 am |

    I love some of the ultimate frisbee designs for their jerseys, and quite honestly would wear them around. I think they should start selling them and then the profits would go to their program. If anyone has ideas as to how to get a hold of some of these shirts i’d be curious to find out.