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A Reversal of Fortune Color

seahawks new logo old colors

By Phil Hecken, with Dave Magruder

You may recall that recently I ran a post with Mike Engle, “What Is Your Uni Secret?,” which asked readers to come up with their “guilty pleasure” for a uniform. In that column, I mentioned that the idea for such came from a reader whom I could not remember at the time, and I asked that reader to come forth and accept the glory for a wonderful suggestion. He did, and it turns out that suggestion came from Dave Magruder (“Dave Mac”), who joins me today with another interesting suggestion (a portion of which also appeared in the comments a while ago) He has expounded upon that original suggestion.

Here’s Dave:

In 2000 the Rams changed their uniforms from royal blue, yellow and white, to millennium blue, gold and white. At the time this seemed like relevant change due to the team’s new identity in St. Louis as “The Greatest Show on Turf.” Recently, however, I’ve been longing for the team to return to their classic royal blue and yellow uniforms (thankfully they will wear them as throwbacks in 2009). These uniforms were a staple of Rams time in Los Angeles as well as the team’s Super Bowl 34 championship in St. Louis.

However, I have always been fond of the current logo introduced with the 2000 uniforms. It is fairly no-frills and modernistic, but it still has a certain charm and connection to the past. This gave me the idea to combine the best of both worlds ”¦ the new 2000 logo with the classic LA Rams colors. These types of old/new hybrids don’t always work, but it was intriguing enough for me to see how it would look. Not knowing much about design myself, I asked some Uni Watch readers if they could help me create this logo and several of them posted responses.

Compare the current Rams logo to the current logo with traditional colors (this one created by UW stalwart Chance Michaels).

Interesting. This got me thinking of other logo possibilities. Have there been teams you’d like to see combine a current color scheme to an old logo? Or vice versa? What if the Milwaukee Brewers brought back the old MB ball and glove logo with their current gold and navy color set? Or what if the Seattle Seahawks current, more aggressive hawk logo was filled in with the old Pacific Northwest colors of green, gray and blue? Or what about Milwaukee Brewers barrel man with current colors, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Bucco Bruce logo in red and pewter current color scheme, the Green Bay Packers “G” logo in blue and yellow (1940s team colors), or the Detroit Lions (pre-2009) logo with a gold or red color scheme (see grafs 12 & 13) from the team’s early history?

There are a lot of interesting possibilities I haven’t mentioned that may be worth exploring.

Indeed there are Dave. As fate would have it, Chance Michaels has already created the Barrel Man in current Brewers colors. Pretty sweet, huh?

What say you, dear readers? Do you have any suggestions for former logos or wordmarks or images you think would look awfully sweet if they were updated with your favorite team’s current color scheme? Or, how about a logo from today with colors from the past? I think this could be a really interesting project. If you have the Photoshop/Illustrator or other graphic skills, would you like to try your hand at a few of these? If you don’t, how about you make a suggestion for a “new” logo with updated colors (or altogether new colors) and post it here. Perhaps those of you (and there are so many talented UWers out there) with the skills can take some of the suggestions which are sure to follow and create what has been suggested? I’ll gladly run your submissions in a future column! Either post them directly into the comments or send them directly to me and we can take a look at these again in a short while.

As you guys know, I’m not much in the way of a graphic artist, but I figured I would give a couple of Dave Mac’s ideas a shot, just so we could get an idea of what he’d like to see. So, here’s the Seahawks old & new logos (with the new logo in old colors) and the Original Bucco Bruce, and how he might look with current Buccaneer colors. Finally, here’s what I came up with for the Brewers classic Ball in Glove logo with today’s colorscheme.

And since I’m not much of the graphic artist, I commissioned Pretty Boy Paulie (Paul Soto), UW graphics genius, to help out with the remaining logos Dave had described: the Green Bay Packers in Blue & Gold, the Detroit Lions in Red & Black as well as the Lions with Gold outline. Thanks Paulie, yer the best!

Thanks again, Dave, for the suggestion. OK Uni Watchers, let’s hear what you got!

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scoreboard

Guess The Game From The Scoreboard: OK — you guys have gotten so good at this game, I’m gonna try and stump you, or at least make you work a little today. Slight changes to the “rules” as well: DON’T email me with your guess, but don’t put it on the board either. Instead, if you wish to take a shot at the answer, go to Baseball Almanac or Retrosheet and copy the URL of the game that’s about to follow. Just say something like “I GOT IT” and post the link as your “answer” in the comments. This way, those who wish to guess can still do so without seeing the answer in the comments. Ok? Ok! Here we go: Guess The Game. Remember, I want the date, location and final score (all of which can be gleaned by posting the link from one of the reference sites). Let’s see how long this one takes you.

*If you have a scoreboard photo you’d like featured, please send it to me. I’m compiling a pretty good “stash” for your guessing pleasure, but I can always use more. Make sure to include the date, location and final score! Thanks.

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This is pretty cool. Brinke Guthrie (“=bg=”) sent me this really cool collage he created this week. I liked it so much, I told him I’d share it with y’all.

Also extremely cool is this. Check out the Royals 40th Anniversary Website. Notice anyone in particular? (In case the website happened to rotate out the photo to which I am referring — here’s a screengrab). If the name of the kid in the uni isn’t familiar to you, that’s UW’s own “Lwiedy“.

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bobble

BOBBLE-iscious: Well, it came! UW Bobblehead Guru & Artistic Genius Robert Marshall‘s custom bobble arrived this week in a standard FedEx box…standard until you saw the customization on the side. My anticipation was high as I opened the box to reveal my very own bubble-wrapped “LI Phil” bobblehead baseball boy … he even came with a custom bubblewrap neck brace. And now I have actual proof that, at the very least, the bobble-likeness Gets It (TM). Awesome! Bobbleboy now sits atop my computer desk, looking down upon me at the ceiling with disdain.

This is an amazingly high quality bobble. And it’s heavy too. Like, crack-your-skull heavy. Robert even made a video of the little guy before shipping. If you haven’t looked into getting your own custom bobble (hey — Father’s Day is coming up!) I cannot recommend this highly enough. Robert didn’t ask me for a plug, but I’m gonna give it to him anyway. Contact Him if you’re interested. I guarantee you won’t be disappointed!

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philadelphia phillies logo

Add to the list another tracker, Timothy Killeen who has been tracking your World Champion Philadelphia Phillies. Here’s his report:

I realize I’m a little late on the uni-tracking bandwagon, but I was inspired by the spreadsheet of another Uniwatchblog tracker and decided to try my hand at doing it for the Phillies since no other track master had covered them yet. I’d love to post when the next round starts up, but until then, here’s what I would have written this time around (as of June 6):

This is my first post at Uniwatchblog, but I’ve been following it for a few months and never go a day without missing it. I’ll be posting as Secane Snake (don’t ask). I decided to start tracking the Philadelphia Phillies’ W-L record by pitcher and uniform as a way of teaching myself iWork Numbers which I recently started to favor over MS Excel. I was intrigued by the work put into user Scott Gladin’s spreadsheet being used to track the Braves, and I decided I would see if I had the chops to replicate it. I think I did pretty well, although I’ll admit the Phils are a much easier team to track. Here is a screen shot of what I have so far.

My WFC Phillies are a decidedly simple team to uni track. Not only do they mostly wear the same classic red hat for both home and away games unless instructed otherwise by the league (Memorial Day, 4th of July, etc.), but figuring out when they will/did wear their new (as of 08’) cream alternate uniforms and blue hats is simple: They wear ”˜em during home games that start before 7pm EST, or “day games,” if you will. Simple as that.

Wearing only 3 uniform sets makes me less inclined to believe the Phils’ winning percentage is at all influenced by their choice of uniform, but I do hope they’ll keep up the ridiculous 77% WPCT they’ve accumulated as of June 6th while wearing their away grays. Two players, Joe Blanton and Brett Myers, have been drastically better wearing the gray, and the pitching staff as a whole has only notched 2 decisions at all let alone wins in 8 games wearing the cream alternates.

Since the team was 4-4 before they started to wear the HK patch commemorating the April death of legendary broadcaster Harry Kalas, their winning percentage with the patch is going to be easy for anyone: simply check out the standings, the Phils’ WPCT overall is the same for their WPCT with an HK patch.

As for anomalies: I considered their gold trimmed home-opener WS jersey as just another regular home jersey, but I will always remember that they are 0-1 with that get-up. After that we have the gray Jackie Robinson #42 they wore in May against the Nats which they won, and the Memorial Day game in which they looked pretty much the same wearing another red hat in which they also won.

Thanks Tim. And now, officially, welcome to Uni Watch!

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This and That: While I was too busy watching Luis Castillo singlehandedly cost the Mets a win at Yankee Stadium last night, apparently there was some kind of hockey game onCongrats to the Pens … We all flock to UW to see the athlete in uniform. Now, the WWL is hoping we want to see the athlete sans uni — like, REALLY, without uni … Sounds like big things are planned at next weekend’s Civil Rights Game, the first time MLB is playing it during the regular season — maybe the Chi Sox will recycle last year’s unis? Right. … Here’s more on the Civil Rights game and Cincinnati’s hosting of that event … Are you a male who’d like to make $100 the sleazy way? Then Rick Reilly has a deal for you … The United Football League will announce logos and colors and nicknames and sponsorship deals for its four franchises in the coming weeks — What the UFL should do: Pursue signing Michael Vick with abandon and assign him to the Las Vegas team … Especially since Vick was released by the Falcons … Apparently, the Red Sox threw at A-Roid on purpose … So will Petey be wearing a Rays or Cubs uni this season? — He’s lookin’ ripped … Apparently we’re not the only ones “Calling It Shea”: Awesome!

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Special Saturday Uni Watch Ticker (compiled by Paul): Very cool that the Nets still have this banner up at their arena (with thanks to Peter Wunsch). ”¦ Utah and BYU are getting new field designs (with thanks to Jon Alviani). ”¦ So many weird things going on in this photo. First, you’ve got New York Giants players wearing Mets caps. Then you’ve got Mets PR guy Jay Horwitz getting a Giants jersey. And finally, why did they give him a road jersey instead of a home version? ”¦ Patrick Williams, who works at the Braves Museum and Hall of Fame, saw the recent Ticker note about the upside-down N at Turner Field. “I pointed out the mistake to my supervisor,” he says. “It has been passed on to the engineering department and will be fixed soon. Thanks for the catch!” ”¦ Awesome 100-year-old ad for baseball gear here. ”¦ You know how some old baseball jerseys had button-on sleeve extensions? Look — you can own a set of the extensions! Never seen that before. ”¦ Did you know that MLB teams can prohibit any minor league team in a 60-mile radius from conducting a bobblehead giveaway? I didn’t, until Robert Ruszczyk sent me this and this. Amazing. Also very sad. ”¦ Here are Washington State’s new football uniforms. ”¦ Virginia Tech plans to wear special throwback helmets for their home opener (with thanks to Jonathan Sluss). ”¦ Here’s an odd but useful view of the Bills’ white throwback (with thanks to Mike Sullivan). ”¦ Great shot here of Dave Bing wearing wrestling headgear, presumably due to an ear injury (nice find by Tris Wykes).

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Enjoy your Saturday everyone!

 
  
 
Comments (144)

    The Helmet Project site has some “made up” helmets, including classic colors/current logos for the Denver Broncos and New England Patriots. Not bad, actually, though I think he took liberties with the stripes.

    link

    hey red sox wore their alternate roads for the first time since april and this time w/ red socks here is a link link

    another find: on chris cremer’s sports logo page the natinals uniform was uploaded take a look: link

    The family and I went to Arizona for some spring training games this year. The Brewers had their current M logo painted on the grass behind home plate in the blue and yellow retro colors. We thought it was pretty cool.

    I officially love the modern Rams logo in the old colours, for me it works far better in royal and yellow gold than the newer, darker shades. I hope they recolour the Ed Jones Dome end zones and field markings accordingly when they wear the throwbacks.

    Speaking of which, I wish they’d get them on sale already.

    Don’t know if anyone has mention this yet or not but the Tigers and Pirates will be wearing their 1909 uniforms in Sunday’s game. The Tigers and the Pirates meet in the 1909 World Series. Can’t wait to see it.

    First off as a Vancouver Canucks fan, trust me combining current logos with old colors doesn’t always work out as well as it did with the barrel man…

    Also, I love the Rams logo, partly because of the colors. I live in suburban Cincinnati, OH and there is a high school here who has played the old logo swipe game with the Rams and when I see the logo in the throwback colors it makes me think of this:
    link

    [quote comment=”334718″]The family and I went to Arizona for some spring training games this year. The Brewers had their current M logo painted on the grass behind home plate in the blue and yellow retro colors. We thought it was pretty cool.[/quote]

    brian emailed me the pics

    here, here & here

    thanks!

    Just a stirrup notice. Did anyone get a screen grab or picture of Bobby Cox from Thursday’s Braves v Pirates game? Bobby had on low cut stirrups when he came out and got ejected on on the call at first.

    great topic!

    I couldn’t really think of any other big league logos that have changed, but I did recall two local minor league teams that have actually swapped colors.

    The Jupiter Hammerheads switched from red to teal when they traded affiliations from Expos/Nats to Marlins.

    link

    I liked the consistent red on the hats, since the link is red too. But as a stand alone logo on the page, the teal provides greater contrast to the red lighthouse.

    As part of that swap, the Brevard County Manatees switched from teal (link and link) to link, and it is much worse now. They’ve kept the red since becoming a Brewers affiliate too.

    Last night was the last NHL game played without the new Reebok-ruined referee uniforms.

    I wonder what the link would look like in the old NY Baseball Giants black and orange. Oh, link.
    Which brings up another point: when remembering/celebrating “their” history, why do the Mets always include the Dodgers (think of Jackie Robinson and Ebbets Field featured prominently in the design of New Shea) but not the Giants?

    How about the Mariners current logo with old the yellow and blue and the Eagles current logo with the baby blue and yellow from those ugly throwbacks

    Those classic Brewer and Sabre logos look pretty good in the other colors. Can somebody try the Houston Texans logo in the old Oilers light blue?

    [quote comment=”334733″]How about the Mariners current logo with old the yellow and blue and the Eagles current logo with the baby blue and yellow from those ugly throwbacks[/quote]
    Current Padres, in some combination of brown, orange, and gold?

    [quote comment=”334732″]I wonder what the link would look like in the old NY Baseball Giants black and orange. Oh, link.
    Which brings up another point: when remembering/celebrating “their” history, why do the Mets always include the Dodgers (think of Jackie Robinson and Ebbets Field featured prominently in the design of New Shea) but not the Giants?[/quote]
    Fred Wilpon was a Dodgers fan growing up.

    I like the idea of the color swap idea.

    The Detroit Pistons did this when they ended the teal era. They kept their logo but adapted it to the new (old) color scheme.

    link

    Looks like you can add Washington St. to the list of schools that don’t employ TV numbers.

    Can anyone elaborate on that picture of Brian Moorman wearing the white Bills throwback uniform? Are they going to wear that this year? I was sort of under the impression that they were only going to wear the royal blue throwback??

    Lastly, the Rays are complete douchebags.

    I like this idea too. Can someone do Canucks in their black, yellow and red from the 90’s for the Orca and the stick-in-rink logos please?

    “The Bills revealed in their training camp press release that on their night practice at training camp on July 30, they will lauch the official Bills jersey commemorating the 50th anniversary of the AFL. They already have a blue throwback for sale. They play a road game at Tennessee in which they will wear a throwback jersey. So expect them to be unveiling a white 1960s era jersey at that night practice at St. John Fisher.

    —Mark Gaughan (beat reporter for The Buffalo News)”

    [quote comment=”334738″]Lastly, the Rays are complete douchebags.[/quote]
    You know, I can KIND OF understand why the Rays would balk on the Pat Burrell nodder. Now that Pat the Bat’s a Ray, there would have been a minor league team capitalizing on a current Ray before he was a Ray. Somewhere, there could have been some undeserved royalties.
    That being said, it is too bad that the whole promotion had to get shut down. I mean, if the Rays really hated the Clearwater Phillies bobbles, why did they have to let the first two slide, only to blow the whistle at their convenience (when their own player was next in line)?

    I love the Bills blue throw back jersey but the white on white looks equally nice! Can’t wait for the AFL anniversary season to begin!

    i just got this email from a reader, Neil Lommel, who has some pretty amazing color swaps…check it out:

    [quote]I read your blog every single day, but I do not have a membership or post comments. I am 15 years old and can’t go a game without commenting on the teams uniforms. When I saw today’s post it reallly got me thinking. I spent the next half hour recoloring logos and this is the result. Some of these did not turn out as expected but I thought I’d pass them along!

    Current Memphis Grizzlies logo in Vancouver Grizzlies colors:
    link

    Current Dallas Stars logo in Minnesota North Stars colors:
    link

    Current Philadelphia Eagles logo in ’70s-’80s Kelly Green colors:
    link

    Current Denver Broncos logo in late ’70s-’80s colors:
    link

    Current Buffalo Sabres logo in early ’00s colors:
    link

    Current Detroit Pistons logo in the ugly colors:
    link

    -Neil Lommel[/quote]

    did i mention, he’s 15!

    great work neil

    [quote comment=”334741″][quote comment=”334738″]Lastly, the Rays are complete douchebags.[/quote]
    You know, I can KIND OF understand why the Rays would balk on the Pat Burrell nodder. Now that Pat the Bat’s a Ray, there would have been a minor league team capitalizing on a current Ray before he was a Ray. Somewhere, there could have been some undeserved royalties.
    That being said, it is too bad that the whole promotion had to get shut down. I mean, if the Rays really hated the Clearwater Phillies bobbles, why did they have to let the first two slide, only to blow the whistle at their convenience (when their own player was next in line)?[/quote]

    Also worth mentioning, the Rays (or Reds or Yankees) didn’t have any didn’t have any problem using the Minor League marks of the Tampa Tarpons and St. Pete Saints on their TBTC nights.

    This situation cuts pretty close to home for me. Without being totally reactionary, I just have two rational thoughts: It seem silly that some sort of reasonable compromise couldn’t have been reached; whatever is actually gained by the Rays is lost with the negative publicity, it seems very “Naimoli” of them.

    [quote comment=”334742″]I love the Bills blue throw back jersey but the white on white looks equally nice! Can’t wait for the AFL anniversary season to begin![/quote]
    As a Bills fan, I’m extremely pissed with the classic white jerseys…the sleeve stripes were originally outlined, red on blue, and blue on red. Looks like someone got lazy here, looking at the Brian Moorman pic.

    This is an outrage, seriously. Gawd, I hope the Bills catch this error before they wear these jerseys for real…ugh!!!

    [quote comment=”334748″]wait…one more from neil:

    link

    nice![/quote]

    Wow…that is so much better than the color scheme they chose!

    Wow, great job Neil and Chris M! There are so many interesting possibilities to explore that I never would have thought of. Some of these combo logos look fantastic, others not so much. But that is what it makes it worthwhile to see these combos visually and decide from there. Keep them coming!

    [quote comment=”334725″]I saw this before a Cardinals game the other day. Wonder where they pulled this jersey from? Everything is wrong about it.

    link[/quote]

    Other than they messed with the color of the bat, it’s looks fine. One thing about the Cardinals uni bothers me. Sometime over the last 10 years or so, they’ve dropped the lettering/birds to almost the middle of the shirt. When they went to the buttons in ’92 it was nice and high. I know this probably is silly but I wonder if LaRussa ordered it to “create” a lower strikezone.

    =bg=
    Just got done with the collage, great work. Would be interested it knowing a little about how it’s done. Obviously, one could just lay out all the stuff and snap a photo but the quality of the image seem like there is more to it than that.

    I’m hoping that UW will sometime do a project where the readers are encouraged to make uni tweeks/additions.

    For example, something like a alternate yellow pants set for the Redskins.

    [quote comment=”334753″]By the way, does anyone think Bucco Bruce looks significantly tougher in red and pewter?

    link
    Actually, he looks rather stupid with gray skin.

    [quote comment=”334744″]i just got this email from a reader, Neil Lommel, who has some pretty amazing color swaps…check it out:

    [quote]I read your blog every single day, but I do not have a membership or post comments. I am 15 years old and can’t go a game without commenting on the teams uniforms. When I saw today’s post it reallly got me thinking. I spent the next half hour recoloring logos and this is the result. Some of these did not turn out as expected but I thought I’d pass them along!

    Current Memphis Grizzlies logo in Vancouver Grizzlies colors:
    link

    Current Dallas Stars logo in Minnesota North Stars colors:
    link

    Current Philadelphia Eagles logo in ’70s-’80s Kelly Green colors:
    link

    Current Denver Broncos logo in late ’70s-’80s colors:
    link

    Current Buffalo Sabres logo in early ’00s colors:
    link

    Current Detroit Pistons logo in the ugly colors:
    link

    -Neil Lommel[/quote]

    did i mention, he’s 15!

    great work neil[/quote]
    And now I feel old. Wow.

    [quote comment=”334730″]Can we see the current Blue Jays logo in blue? Any kind of blue, preferably one from their past?
    {/slight sarcasm>[/quote]

    No sarcasm here! They’re the BLUE Jays, not the Black Jays.

    Also like the new Rams and Seahawks with the old colors. Same with the Astros and the Pitt Panthers, although I’d prefer they just go all the way retro.

    How about the old Nuggets skyline with the new color scheme?

    Penn State was originally pink and black…nah, some things are better left in the past.

    [quote comment=”334757″][quote comment=”334753″]By the way, does anyone think Bucco Bruce looks significantly tougher in red and pewter?

    link
    Actually, he looks rather stupid with gray skin.[/quote]

    Switch it around – pewter hat and red skin.

    [quote comment=”334746″][quote comment=”334742″]I love the Bills blue throw back jersey but the white on white looks equally nice! Can’t wait for the AFL anniversary season to begin![/quote]
    As a Bills fan, I’m extremely pissed with the classic white jerseys…the sleeve stripes were originally outlined, red on blue, and blue on red. Looks like someone got lazy here, looking at the Brian Moorman pic.

    This is an outrage, seriously. Gawd, I hope the Bills catch this error before they wear these jerseys for real…ugh!!![/quote]

    Chill out, I don’t really understand your outrage. I am a Bills fan, too. The problem with the uniform that Moorman is wearing is that the red stripes on the sleeves are the same width as the blue ones. They need to be slimmed down. The stripes on the pants are also inaccurate. Lastly, the blue socks shouldn’t be used here.

    Here’s what the arm stripes should look like:
    link

    Here’s what the pants/socks should look like:
    link

    [quote comment=”334761″][quote comment=”334757″][quote comment=”334753″]By the way, does anyone think Bucco Bruce looks significantly tougher in red and pewter?

    link
    Actually, he looks rather stupid with gray skin.[/quote]

    Switch it around – pewter hat and red skin.[/quote]

    it’s funny…i had asked paulie soto to do just that, but he ran out of time (he actually did a very similar graphic to the one i feebly attempted to do and ended up posting)…when i asked him to “flip” it so that the chapeau was pewter, he’d already shut down for the night

    perhaps one of the many graphic dudes who’ve already posted today can crank that one out

    Proof that three colors is all you need to make a good looking logo:

    link

    (sorry for the crudeness…the nationals logo uses shading in their logo that my ms paint skillz don’t handle well)

    [quote comment=”334764″]Proof that three colors is all you need to make a good looking logo:

    link

    (sorry for the crudeness…the nationals logo uses shading in their logo that my ms paint skillz don’t handle well)[/quote]
    And boy does that scream Washington DC. Very nice.

    [quote comment=”334762″][quote comment=”334746″][quote comment=”334742″]I love the Bills blue throw back jersey but the white on white looks equally nice! Can’t wait for the AFL anniversary season to begin![/quote]
    As a Bills fan, I’m extremely pissed with the classic white jerseys…the sleeve stripes were originally outlined, red on blue, and blue on red. Looks like someone got lazy here, looking at the Brian Moorman pic.

    This is an outrage, seriously. Gawd, I hope the Bills catch this error before they wear these jerseys for real…ugh!!![/quote]

    Chill out, I don’t really understand your outrage. I am a Bills fan, too. The problem with the uniform that Moorman is wearing is that the red stripes on the sleeves are the same width as the blue ones. They need to be slimmed down. The stripes on the pants are also inaccurate. Lastly, the blue socks shouldn’t be used here.

    Here’s what the arm stripes should look like:
    link

    Here’s what the pants/socks should look like:
    link

    Was about to say there is so much that is incorrect about that Bills road throwback (if it is indeed the uniform they’ll be wearing) that I wasn’t going to even bother to discuss it.

    The Bills only wore the white road socks for about 2/3 of the season. A while back someone posted a youtube link the Bills highlight film from that year. Watched it all. For their game in Oakland they swtiched the home blue socks and never went back to the white ones. So I guess they could wear either this year, even though they aren’t wearing anything from 1960, of course.

    —Ricko

    I think that Washington State Cougar helmet logo is lame. It doesn’t strike me as creative or designed well. If that is the winner imagine the losers. I much more preferred the old school Cougars on the side. Any thoughts?

    [quote comment=”334769″]Hey there, here is my best attempt at Bucco Bruce. Here are three different options…

    link

    GAH!

    thanks neil…great job! (welcome to UW, btw)…not so sure that’s a good look

    [quote comment=”334767″]I think that Washington State Cougar helmet logo is lame. It doesn’t strike me as creative or designed well. If that is the winner imagine the losers. I much more preferred the old school Cougars on the side. Any thoughts?[/quote]
    That stylized WSU has been on the maroon helmet for years. The only change (for the helmets) is on the silver lid.

    And what’s up with that shoulder stripe?! It looks like someone edited out the TV numbers with one of those blocks used to cover the naughty bits in a picture of Paris Hilton climbing out of her limo.

    And here are the Caps with the old blue and bronze scheme…

    link

    (Yes, I am having to much fun with this!)

    [quote comment=”334773″]And here are the Caps with the old blue and bronze scheme…

    link

    (Yes, I am having to much fun with this!)[/quote]

    Nice! I was wondering about that one myself. Great work!

    In a perfect world, the Rams would return to the uni’s they wore from 1965 to 1972…simple; crisp; nostalgic…I can see Deacon Jones rushing the passer…Roman Gabriel to Jack Snow, etc…!!!

    Great uniform….!!!

    link

    And I have more…

    Lions logo in the rest of the NFC North colors:
    link

    Broncos logo in the rest of Colorado\’s teams colors:
    link

    Hawks logo in the rest of Atlanta\’s teams colors:
    link (I just realized how similar each teams colors are)

    A flip-flop of the Panthers and Canes:
    link

    [quote comment=”334780″]In a perfect world, the Rams would return to the uni’s they wore from 1965 to 1972…simple; crisp; nostalgic…I can see Deacon Jones rushing the passer…Roman Gabriel to Jack Snow, etc…!!!

    Great uniform….!!!

    link

    Stan,

    You are soooooooooo right in calling for a return to the “BLUE & WHITE” Rams uni’s….they never should have changed back to the blue and gold…

    The “Blue and White” uni’s are absolutely beautiful…!!!

    Hopefully the new owners of the Rams will agree to this directive…

    Rams Fan Forever!!!

    Ok, I know that you guys can help me here. I really like the idea of the current lions logo in red. I am trying to make a team on NCAA teambuilder with this logo, but everything I try on ms paint comes with a stupid white box backround. Can someone make the logo red without including a backround? If so please post a link to a picture. Idk how to get rid of that stupid white backround.

    here is a link to my team so far…
    link

    [quote comment=”334722″]What a great logo swap idea! I just whipped up a few right now:

    Rays
    link

    Rays 2 (this one is awesome!)
    link

    Astros
    link

    Sabres
    link

    Sabres 2
    link

    Ducks
    link

    Ducks 2
    link

    That Astros logo is a vast improvement. But if they go that far, they may as well go ahead and re-introduce the shooting star.

    Fun topic today.

    damn. I dont think the link will work, but if you search by author chippewapride5 you can easily find my school. Any help will be appreciated.

    [quote comment=”334759″]Probably already been done, but…

    link

    This rules. A cross between Tony Gwynn and Reese’s Pieces. It’s unique, a far cry from their current design. Best one of the day.

    Awesome work Neil!!

    (what about taking the colors of one team in a city and applying them to another team in that city – i.e. L.A. Angels of Anaheim in L.A. Lakers colors, Dem O`s in Da Ravens colors, etc)

    [quote comment=”334781″]And I have more…

    Lions logo in the rest of the NFC North colors:
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    Broncos logo in the rest of Colorado\’s teams colors:
    link

    Hawks logo in the rest of Atlanta\’s teams colors:
    link (I just realized how similar each teams colors are)

    A flip-flop of the Panthers and Canes:
    link

    How about doing the Panthers, and the Lions for that matter, in the colors of the USFL Michigan Panthers?

    [quote comment=\”334771\”][quote comment=\”334767\”]I think that Washington State Cougar helmet logo is lame. It doesn\’t strike me as creative or designed well. If that is the winner imagine the losers. I much more preferred the old school Cougars on the side. Any thoughts?[/quote]
    That stylized WSU has been on the maroon helmet for years. The only change (for the helmets) is on the silver lid.
    And what\’s up with that shoulder stripe?! It looks like someone edited out the TV numbers with one of those blocks used to cover the naughty bits in a picture of Paris Hilton climbing out of her limo.[/quote]

    I knew it wasn\’t a new logo on the maroon helmet, I just don\’t care for it at all. I have always liked the script Cougars logo better. For all helmets.

    Cardinals and Indians are on – it’s 80s throwback day. Cards didn’t go powder blue, though. They went with the gray 80s road unis. I believe Skip Schumaker is wearing some nice striped stirrups.

    Gosh.. the Brewers are terrible on Nationally televised games. Maybe they need a uni overhaul to change their luck ’cause I am sick and tired of watching them embarrass themselves on a national level.

    Ricko good point on the non 1960, 1960 uniforms they are wearing. (Same thing for the Raiders, & Pats, non 1960, 1960 uniforms) I am just glad they aren’t wearing their current nightmare of a uniform for every game.

    [quote comment=”334754″]=bg=
    Just got done with the collage, great work. Would be interested it knowing a little about how it’s done. Obviously, one could just lay out all the stuff and snap a photo but the quality of the image seem like there is more to it than that.[/quote]

    You need the Picasa program from Google. It organizes your photos and then you can make a collage. picasa.google.com.

    [quote comment=”334794″]JimV, how do these look? I really like the first Lions logo.

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    Oh yeah! I like both Lions and I love the first Panther. 2nd one’s okay, but I’d love to see that first one if they ever play the Lions at Ford Field. Thanks!

    Don’t suppose you could do the Nuggets skyline jersey with their new colors??

    [quote comment=”334792″]Gosh.. the Brewers are terrible on Nationally televised games. Maybe they need a uni overhaul to change their luck ’cause I am sick and tired of watching them embarrass themselves on a national level.[/quote]

    Somebody should tell your Brews they aren’t really on national TV, that is if Florida is still part of the nation.

    Here’s my Boston sports color swap. I love the way the Patriots head looks with the Celtics colors.

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    [quote comment=”334796″][quote comment=”334794″]JimV, how do these look? I really like the first Lions logo.

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    Oh yeah! I like both Lions and I love the first Panther. 2nd one’s okay, but I’d love to see that first one if they ever play the Lions at Ford Field. Thanks!

    Don’t suppose you could do the Nuggets skyline jersey with their new colors??[/quote]
    No, sorry, I’m not very good with jerseys. Someone named fnz on Chris Creamer’s site made these though, which is sort of what you mean. link Again these *are not* mine they are fnz’s.

    [quote comment=”334800″][quote comment=”334796″][quote comment=”334794″]JimV, how do these look? I really like the first Lions logo.

    link

    Oh yeah! I like both Lions and I love the first Panther. 2nd one’s okay, but I’d love to see that first one if they ever play the Lions at Ford Field. Thanks!

    Don’t suppose you could do the Nuggets skyline jersey with their new colors??[/quote]
    No, sorry, I’m not very good with jerseys. Someone named fnz on Chris Creamer’s site made these though, which is sort of what you mean. link Again these *are not* mine they are fnz’s.[/quote]

    That’s almost exactly what I had in mind. Thanks for passing that on to me!

    [quote comment=”334799″]Here’s my Boston sports color swap. I love the way the Patriots head looks with the Celtics colors.

    link

    The high school I went to is the patrios and use the flying elvis in green and gold.

    link

    Late to the party, but here’s my Indiana Logo Swap

    Colts horseshoe in Pacer gold:
    link

    Pacers logo in Colts Speed Blue and grey:
    link

    [quote comment=”334804″]Late to the party, but here’s my Indiana Logo Swap

    Colts horseshoe in Pacer gold:
    link

    Pacers logo in Colts Speed Blue and grey:
    link

    SHOOT!!!!

    I mean, HERE’S the Colts in Pacer Gold:
    link

    I also always wanted to the see the Star from the Indianapolis link included in the Colts logo somehow… so here’s a mild shot at that…

    link

    It took about 3 minutes for Sports Illustrated to tout their Stanley Cup Championship Pittsburgh Penguins merchandise and we all know they have packages at the ready for every team in contention. The question is where do the unused collections go for the championship loser? I can just picture a warehouse filled with memorabilia of the World Champion Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Rays and Orlando Magic. It would be great to see some photos of any stuff that survived the incinerator!

    [quote comment=”334732″]I wonder what the link would look like in the old NY Baseball Giants black and orange. Oh, link.
    Which brings up another point: when remembering/celebrating “their” history, why do the Mets always include the Dodgers (think of Jackie Robinson and Ebbets Field featured prominently in the design of New Shea) but not the Giants?[/quote]

    You are showing an orange and black Mets cap, which current day manufacturers fob off as a Giant hat. The Giants’ cap emblem is somewhat different, and its dimensions are better than those of the Mets. The current manufacturers use the Red Sox cap logo for the Brooklyn Dodgers as well. Enough photos exist to make me think they ought to know better.

    [quote comment=”334752″][quote comment=”334725″]I saw this before a Cardinals game the other day. Wonder where they pulled this jersey from? Everything is wrong about it.

    link[/quote]

    Other than they messed with the color of the bat, it’s looks fine. One thing about the Cardinals uni bothers me. Sometime over the last 10 years or so, they’ve dropped the lettering/birds to almost the middle of the shirt. When they went to the buttons in ’92 it was nice and high. I know this probably is silly but I wonder if LaRussa ordered it to “create” a lower strikezone.[/quote]
    I think they answer is sloppy lettering by Majestic. The wordmark is too low, and the Car-and -dinals don’t line up properly.

    In my world the bat would be all-black, and the 1949 uniform would reappear.

    [quote comment=”334807″]It took about 3 minutes for Sports Illustrated to tout their Stanley Cup Championship Pittsburgh Penguins merchandise and we all know they have packages at the ready for every team in contention. The question is where do the unused collections go for the championship loser? I can just picture a warehouse filled with memorabilia of the World Champion Arizona Cardinals, Tampa Bay Rays and Orlando Magic. It would be great to see some photos of any stuff that survived the incinerator![/quote]

    it doesn’t go to waste…there are entire third world villages that think the pats are SBXLII champs, the rockies won the 2007 world series and the cleveland lebrons won the larry obrien

    Really late to the party today and only skimmed the comments, so I’m hoping nobody’s mentioned this already. I’d love to see some “blasphemous” color swaps — basically big rivals with totally disparate color schemes.

    I’m talking Dodgers/Giants, Bruins/Canadiens, Celtics/Lakers, etc.

    The one I’d like to see most (surprise, surprise) is Bears/Packers — and full unis, not just the logos. Specifically, I’d like to see the dark/bright color pattern followed. So the Pack would have orange helmets & pants with blue jerseys and the Bears would have Green helmets & jerseys and white pants.

    I truly wish I had Photoshop (and some clue as to how to use it) so I could put some of these together.

    I don’t know if this counts, the Vancouver Canucks have already returned to their classic colors, however, in the following two images, I have added green to the current logo to complete the look.

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    link

    No matter what logo they want to wear – the Astros will ALWAYS look better in navy and orange…

    [quote comment=”334815″]Really late to the party today and only skimmed the comments, so I’m hoping nobody’s mentioned this already. I’d love to see some “blasphemous” color swaps — basically big rivals with totally disparate color schemes.

    I’m talking Dodgers/Giants, Bruins/Canadiens, Celtics/Lakers, etc.

    The one I’d like to see most (surprise, surprise) is Bears/Packers — and full unis, not just the logos. Specifically, I’d like to see the dark/bright color pattern followed. So the Pack would have orange helmets & pants with blue jerseys and the Bears would have Green helmets & jerseys and white pants.

    I truly wish I had Photoshop (and some clue as to how to use it) so I could put some of these together.[/quote]

    Try using the gimp program. It’s a great free alternative to photoshop. Go to gimp.org to download it. I would highly recommend it.

    I know the fans of Stirrup Nation will like this shot @ the game just now:

    [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/brinkeguthrie/Untitled-28.jpg[/IMG]

    I know the fans of Stirrup Nation will like this shot @ the game just now:

    (take two. WHEN do we get an edit function.)

    link

    [quote comment=”334818″][quote comment=”334815″]Really late to the party today and only skimmed the comments, so I’m hoping nobody’s mentioned this already. I’d love to see some “blasphemous” color swaps — basically big rivals with totally disparate color schemes.

    I’m talking Dodgers/Giants, Bruins/Canadiens, Celtics/Lakers, etc.

    Gimp is what Sergey Brin used to whip together the first Google logo. I use Irfanview but might give Gimp a spin.

    The one I’d like to see most (surprise, surprise) is Bears/Packers — and full unis, not just the logos. Specifically, I’d like to see the dark/bright color pattern followed. So the Pack would have orange helmets & pants with blue jerseys and the Bears would have Green helmets & jerseys and white pants.

    I truly wish I had Photoshop (and some clue as to how to use it) so I could put some of these together.[/quote]

    Try using the gimp program. It’s a great free alternative to photoshop. Go to gimp.org to download it. I would highly recommend it.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”334815″]Really late to the party today and only skimmed the comments, so I’m hoping nobody’s mentioned this already. I’d love to see some “blasphemous” color swaps — basically big rivals with totally disparate color schemes.

    I’m talking Dodgers/Giants.[/quote]

    ok…i tried uploading something neil sent me…that failed…im gonna try gimp next…because dammit…im gonna figure this out in something besides MS paint…which takes me about an hour to make the simplest shit

    but … here is the dodgers in giants colors

    im sure it would have taken the “pros” on here about 2 minutes and they would have done it better

    [quote comment=”334823″][quote comment=”334815″]Really late to the party today and only skimmed the comments, so I’m hoping nobody’s mentioned this already. I’d love to see some “blasphemous” color swaps — basically big rivals with totally disparate color schemes.

    I’m talking Dodgers/Giants.[/quote]

    ok…i tried uploading something neil sent me…that failed…im gonna try gimp next…because dammit…im gonna figure this out in something besides MS paint…which takes me about an hour to make the simplest shit

    but … link in giants colors

    im sure it would have taken the “pros” on here about 2 minutes and they would have done it better[/quote]

    BWA HA HA HA HA HA. BEAT LA.

    [quote comment=”334813″][quote comment=”334811″]New Orleans swap:

    link

    Saints- beautiful.
    Hornets- meh.[/quote]

    I’d like to see that swap for real. They both look good to me.

    [quote comment=”334817″]No matter what logo they want to wear – the Astros will ALWAYS look better in navy and orange…[/quote]

    Right on!

    [quote comment=”334782″][quote comment=”334780″]In a perfect world, the Rams would return to the uni’s they wore from 1965 to 1972…simple; crisp; nostalgic…I can see Deacon Jones rushing the passer…Roman Gabriel to Jack Snow, etc…!!!

    Great uniform….!!!

    link

    Stan,

    You are soooooooooo right in calling for a return to the “BLUE & WHITE” Rams uni’s….they never should have changed back to the blue and gold…

    The “Blue and White” uni’s are absolutely beautiful…!!!

    Hopefully the new owners of the Rams will agree to this directive…

    Rams Fan Forever!!![/quote]
    That Rams webpage talks about the 1972 home “blue” version…I can probably count on one hand the times the Rams had to pull out the ROAD blues.

    [quote comment=”334824″][quote comment=”334823″][quote comment=”334815″]Really late to the party today and only skimmed the comments, so I’m hoping nobody’s mentioned this already. I’d love to see some “blasphemous” color swaps — basically big rivals with totally disparate color schemes.

    I’m talking Dodgers/Giants.[/quote]

    ok…i tried uploading something neil sent me…that failed…im gonna try gimp next…because dammit…im gonna figure this out in something besides MS paint…which takes me about an hour to make the simplest shit

    but … link in giants colors

    im sure it would have taken the “pros” on here about 2 minutes and they would have done it better[/quote]

    BWA HA HA HA HA HA. BEAT LA.[/quote]
    Heh. Check link out.

    (That’s link.)

    OK, this is really late to the party, but I didn’t see anyone really mention this, so I’ll say it. If I’m reading the articles right about the Clearwater Bobblehead debate, it’s not that they can’t do bobbleheads, or any other promotion. The problem is that they were going to be Phillies bobbleheads, featuring Phillies players, presumably in Phillies uniforms. It’s not the bobbleheads, it’s the players being used for the bobbleheads.

    The classic link the white road jersey with the thick shoulder stripe that implies a second set of horns. Brilliant! Intimidating home squads into thinking, “Do these guys have TWO sets of horns? How can we defend against that many horns?”
    Later in the season, when the same team travels to LA, prepared now with all kinds of new plays that neutralize teams with two sets of horns, the Rams come out dressed as… link Who can prepare for that kind of switcharoo?

    [quote comment=”334829″]OK, this is really late to the party, but I didn’t see anyone really mention this, so I’ll say it. If I’m reading the articles right about the Clearwater Bobblehead debate, it’s not that they can’t do bobbleheads, or any other promotion. The problem is that they were going to be Phillies bobbleheads, featuring Phillies players, presumably in Phillies uniforms. It’s not the bobbleheads, it’s the players being used for the bobbleheads.[/quote]
    It sounds like the fact that the Threshers planned to give away a bobble of one of the Rays’ current players (Burrell) is what sparked it, but apparently now ALL of the minor league teams within that 60-mile radius have to scrap their bobblehead promotions.

    [quote comment=”334828″][quote comment=”334824″][quote comment=”334823″][quote comment=”334815″]Really late to the party today and only skimmed the comments, so I’m hoping nobody’s mentioned this already. I’d love to see some “blasphemous” color swaps — basically big rivals with totally disparate color schemes.

    I’m talking Dodgers/Giants.[/quote]

    ok…i tried uploading something neil sent me…that failed…im gonna try gimp next…because dammit…im gonna figure this out in something besides MS paint…which takes me about an hour to make the simplest shit

    but … link in giants colors

    im sure it would have taken the “pros” on here about 2 minutes and they would have done it better[/quote]

    BWA HA HA HA HA HA. BEAT LA.[/quote]
    Heh. Check link out.

    (That’s link.)[/quote]

    I would love to have a BEAT LA t-shirt. I have seen people wear em at games, and I havae never seen one in a store, not even at the team store.

    I dont know about anyone else, but the more and more I see those Blue Philly hats on the white cream jersey I like it less and less
    link
    Btw, while looking at Phillies hats on MLB.com, I came across this hat that I actually like a lot

    link

    For the post that I wrote above I left out something. For the second link, have the Philies actually worn that hat in a game?

    This is a very small gesture, but just another reason I love the Milwaukee Brewers and their players…

    “Hoffman hasn’t endeared himself just to Milwaukeeans with his performance on the mound. According to a Miller Park employee, he stopped this week at a concession stand on Miller Park’s service level that is frequented by ushers and other stadium staff. “The next $100 of hot dogs is on me,” Hoffman said, dropping a bill on the counter.”

    from this page on the bottom:
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    [quote comment=”334837″]i may be getting the hang of this…

    2 more for the blasphemy file:

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    …or is it the other way around?[/quote]
    Yankees + Mets colors = obscure Knicks shorts logo? I’m surprisingly not offended by that sight.

    [quote comment=”334837″]i may be getting the hang of this…

    2 more for the blasphemy file:

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    link

    …or is it the other way around?[/quote]

    Those pics are the reason I don’t check the boards at night. :D

    Somewhere in the world, there’s a Yankees hat in A’s colors. Every so often I’d see it at my college and I’d have to resist the urge to punch the guy that wore it. “Look at that, a beautiful A’s hat on the east coast, you never see — oh no, you son of a BITCH!”

    Haha. Phil, that is blasphemous. Right now you remind me of that evil mad scientist from movies. You know, the guy who always pushes the limits too far, threatening the existence of the world as we know it…

    But by all means, continue. Our uni “experiments” must go on.

    [quote comment=”334760″][quote comment=”334730″]Can we see the current Blue Jays logo in blue? Any kind of blue, preferably one from their past?
    {/slight sarcasm>[/quote]

    Trying my hand at this…link.

    to whoever asked, i posted a vid including Bobby Cox in his stirrups last night, bout as late as this. maybe i should just post again tomorrow morning…

    [quote comment=”334733″]How about the Mariners current logo with old the yellow and blue and the Eagles current logo with the baby blue and yellow from those ugly throwbacks[/quote]

    link…it’s different, but it could work.

    I bought a Brewers hat 3 years ago at Lids/Hat World which featured the old “ball in glove” logo in current colors. It also had the current wordmark on the back. So that combo wouldn’t be a complete stretch, considering it’s already been marketed and licensed.

    Very late, I know, but here are a whole bunch of logos I did: link

    Included: Washington Nationals logo without shadows, my take on the Milwaukee MB mitt, lots of NHL teams in the same colors as before they relocated, other current logos with old colors, a Lakers/Clippers cross-town mix up, twisting up the NFC North, and twisting the NBA and Stanley Cup Finals teams.

    [quote comment=”334842″][quote comment=”334760″][quote comment=”334730″]Can we see the current Blue Jays logo in blue? Any kind of blue, preferably one from their past?
    {/slight sarcasm>[/quote]

    Trying my hand at this…link.[/quote]

    I think the red trim stands out too much, I’d convert that to the powder blue (and make the black a bit thinner), then put a red maple leaf in the “J”, level with the bird’s eye. THERE you have a much more proper Toronto Blue Jays logo if they really had to depart from the original.

    I remember the Rams had one of the best uni’s in all of sports. That came to an end when they changed from yellow to gold. What’s up with that? The Penguins seem to have done the same thing. Is yellow faux pas now or something? That Seahawks lime-green is faux pas to the third power which by the way is another unnecessary uniform change. Only one team can rock lime-green, purple, and sky blue……the Orlando Thunder (guilty!)!

    NBA logos seemed to work the best for me, I brought the older Sonics colors into the Thunder logo, with the red and brown(ish) and slightly different yellow and green:
    link

    Old Cavs orange and blue into the new Cavs logo:
    link

    The new Rockets logo is just red, so here’s the 90s Rockets logo (which I never liked) with the 80s Rockets colors:
    link
    The Warriors logo with a Raiders twist:
    link
    Somebody else asked for the Nuggets’ old skyline in the new colors, so here’s the old skyline, one with the Dikembe upset-era colors to fill out the spectrum and one with just the new colors.
    link
    I’ve also tried a few others, but they weren’t that good, and the new Hawk logo in green and blue was especially nasty. If I come up with anything else good, I’ll be sure to post it.

    How come I only get a shout-out on weekends, when I can’t read them? ;)

    The colors on your old/new link are a little off.

    Here it is with link.

    Personally, I’m not a big fan. I think it works much better in the brighter shades.

    hey i found these last night on ebay. i thought yall would like this he also has the black ones.
    i bought a few pairs myself and he had 45 left at time.
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