Tat Spat

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I’d be the first to agree that I’m in no position to criticize anyone for having a tattoo of a brand, although I think the Brannock Device tat on my right arm is a lot cooler than Marcin Gortat’s Nike/Jordan calf tat, shown above. And as a bonus, I’ll never have to worry about a rival foot-measuring company telling me to cover up my tat, which is what Reebok has told Gortat to do. Much like the Nike/Adidas tennis spat a few years back, the tattoo situation highlights the real problem when you mix sports and sponsorships: Everyone ends up behaving like children.

You can expect to see a lot more of these conflicts as advertising encroaches on uniforms. If Player X has an endorsement deal with American Express and then his team starts wearing a MasterCard sleeve patch, how do you think that’s gonna play out? Just one more reason to keep ads off of uniforms.

And hey, speaking of ads on unis, Scoop Jackson and I debated the merits of that very topic yesterday on ESPN. Most of my arguments will be familiar to those of you who read the blog regularly, but it’s still an interesting dialogue.

And speaking of ESPN, I’ll have a new column up today — look here. — Paul

A few other items of note: Want to catch you up on a few things:

• Kirsten and I will be appearing on the radio this morning at 10:40am (not at 11:40am, which is what I had written in a previous update). We’ll be talking Candela, Uni Watch, and “I’m Calling It Shea.” You can stream the live audio here, and the segment should be archived on that page later in the day.

• As you may have noticed, we have a new sponsor in the right-hand rail: Cooperstown Collection caps from Dugout Memories. Glenn Gough, the president of Dugout Memories, is one of the nicest, most gracious people I’ve ever dealt with — please take a look at his site, and continue to support all our advertisers.

• Speaking of our sponsors, Sports Propaganda artist Chris Speakman has come up with some great new screen prints, featuring Jimmy Rollins, Chipper Jones, Ichiro, and the Cubbies. Full details here.

• Although this could change, for now I’ve decided that the Uni Watch party in Baltimore next week is still on. So we’re still good to go for next Wednesday, June 17th, 7pm, at the Hillendale Bowling Center.

• And my continued thanks to all of you who’ve said such nice things about Monday’s entry and who’ve expressed support during a very stressful period. You’re all aces.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Sharp eye by Cameron Norris, who noticed that the 1995 “World Champions” sign at Turner Field has an upside-down N. “One of those things where it really sticks out once you notice it,” he says. … Jim Mellett has provided 10 more scans from The Professionals, which I’ve added to this gallery. I’ll keep adding more images as he sends them to me. … Stirrup Nation Update: Yancy Yeater, who works for the minor league Washington Wild Things, reports that three of the team’s players have been looking my-t-fine lately. … Have you seen this year’s All-Star Game BP jerseys? I can live with the A.L. design, but check out the N.L. version — woof! Who had the bright idea of putting that powder blue trim on the collar? Gonna be one ugly home run derby this year (with thanks to Christopher Leopardi). … This is so weird, on several different levels (good find by Adam Brodsky). … I’ve previously reported that Robbie Cano’s cap hasn’t had the Yankee Stadium logo on the back, and now Erik Montgelas reports that Derek Jeter’s cap was logo-free last night as well. Sorry, no photo. … Think Salty has a long surname (14 letters)? The Bosox chose this guy (15 letters) in the MLB draft, and the Braves picked this guy (18 letters, plus the hyphen). … Check out the dotted i on Adam Everett’s road jersey. Jay Winkler says it’s been missing the top navy layer of fabric for several weeks now.

 

238 comments to Tat Spat

  • MPowers1634 | June 11, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    Paul once taunted me with Tinker Hatfield’s e-mail address.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    Now he has a debate with Scoop Jackson, the author of my BIBLE!

    http://www.amazon.co...

    Seriously, the conversations we could have would be endless!

  • Dave Mac | June 11, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    Paul,

    During one of your next trips to Wisconsin, you should throw a Uni Watch party around here. :)

  • Matt Brosseau | June 11, 2009 at 8:36 am |

    My God, that NL All-Star jersey brought tears to my eyes, that’s how bad it is.

  • Elena | June 11, 2009 at 8:39 am |

    I like the All Star jerseys. Best looking ones they’ve ever had. Which isn’t saying a lot, since they are usually uglier than home-made sin. I may have to get me one of the NL ones. I wear red and powder blue together frequently. As in right now, with my UNC and StL allegiances.

  • kylesh1 | June 11, 2009 at 8:42 am |

    Wow. I think Paul might have penned the most intelligent and well thought out discussion about uniforms that I have ever seen in his discussion with Scoop Jackson. Simply amazing how he tied everything together so well and made a very good point. Very good article and worth the read.

  • TC Lofton | June 11, 2009 at 8:43 am |

    Paul, thanks for the insight on the uni ads… I’m certainly not a fan of Scoop Jackson, but I enjoyed that debate a lot.
    .:FREE WHITLOCK:.

    The trim on that NL BP Jersey gives me pause… are the Cards thinking about bringing their Powder Blues back?

    Everyone keep a young man named Taylor Kinzer in your thoughts… this poor young student of ours was drafted by the Natinals yesterday. Just a shame.

  • Mike W. | June 11, 2009 at 8:44 am |

    Did anyone notice that Pedro Feliciano of the Mets did not have a CitiField patch on his cap last night? It\’s the first time I\’ve noticed it. Is this new or has it been that way all season?

    Also, in the same game, JC Romero of the Phillies had writing under the bill of his cap. Keith Hernandez of SNY mentioned it on air.

  • Pat | June 11, 2009 at 8:44 am |

    I’ll go against what I’m sure will be the popular opinion and say I love the NL’s jerseys. I’ve always liked powder blue combined with Red and I think its a nice nod to the 70s/80s light blue road jerseys from the Cardinals. Although they weren’t the best team to wear them (Royals were the only team that made sense…), seeing those always makes me thing of Ozzie, Whitey Ball, and Willie McGee…

  • iLO | June 11, 2009 at 8:45 am |

    Looks like the Jumpman logo gained some weight. Geez.

    http://www.ufl-footb...
    - I hope this league doesn’t have one design team doing their logo’s ala XFL.

  • MPowers1634 | June 11, 2009 at 8:45 am |

    [quote comment="334256"]My God, that NL All-Star jersey brought tears to my eyes, that’s how bad it is.[/quote]

    Yes it is, but is it really any worse than it’s great grandpappy?

    http://images-cdn01....

  • iLO | June 11, 2009 at 8:47 am |

    ..and why the Brannock device? lol! That is something I would never expect someone to have a tattoo of. Explain!

  • Dawn | June 11, 2009 at 8:49 am |

    Reese Witherspoon is training for a role as a professional softball player. Looks like she’s wearing kinesio (sp) tape on her forearm.

    http://img2.timeinc....

  • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    [quote comment="334264"]..and why the Brannock device? lol! That is something I would never expect someone to have a tattoo of. Explain![/quote]

    It’s my Very Favorite Object. It’s a universal cultural touchstone (i.e., every single person reading this has had his or her foot in one of them) but almost nobody knows what it’s called. So it’s classically inconspicuous, hiding in plain sight. And it’s a great piece of design. A metaphor for the point of view I use when writing about many things, including uniforms.

  • Kevin | June 11, 2009 at 8:52 am |

    I actaully don’t think the NL batting practice jerseys are that bad. The Cards had the light blue unis and the fans still like them still. I will admit it seems a little out of place on the jersey though but I think the logo is top notch.

  • MPowers1634 | June 11, 2009 at 8:52 am |

    [quote comment="334266"][quote comment="334264"]..and why the Brannock device? lol! That is something I would never expect someone to have a tattoo of. Explain![/quote]

    It’s my Very Favorite Object. It’s a universal cultural touchstone (i.e., every single person reading this has had his or her foot in one of them) but almost nobody knows what it’s called. So it’s classically inconspicuous, hiding in plain sight. And it’s a great piece of design. A metaphor for the point of view I use when writing about many things, including uniforms.[/quote]

    I occassionally find myself in shoe stores. Although I know my shoe size by now and how that size differs with different brands, I always chuckle when I see the Brannock device underneath the seats.

  • -Vince | June 11, 2009 at 8:54 am |

    Did anyone else notice that the two “i”s are different in the Tigers pic. The one with the missing navy dot is appliqued to be attached to the word-mark, while the one behind him is completely separate from the word-mark.

    -Vince

  • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2009 at 8:57 am |

    [quote comment="334268"][quote comment="334266"][quote comment="334264"]..and why the Brannock device? lol! That is something I would never expect someone to have a tattoo of. Explain![/quote]

    It’s my Very Favorite Object. It’s a universal cultural touchstone (i.e., every single person reading this has had his or her foot in one of them) but almost nobody knows what it’s called. So it’s classically inconspicuous, hiding in plain sight. And it’s a great piece of design. A metaphor for the point of view I use when writing about many things, including uniforms.[/quote]

    I occassionally find myself in shoe stores.[/quote]

    Understatement of the day, I’m willing to bet!

  • LI Phil | June 11, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    [quote]I occassionally find myself in shoe stores[/quote]

    oh really?

  • John | June 11, 2009 at 9:02 am |

    Speaking of tattoos…anyone see where Chad Johnson er..Ochocinco…went all Mike Tyson and had his face tattooed?? What a nutjob. Just copy and paste this link for the story and pics;
    http://www.yardbarke...

  • dwight | June 11, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment="334261"]I’ll go against what I’m sure will be the popular opinion and say I love the NL’s jerseys. I’ve always liked powder blue combined with Red and I think its a nice nod to the 70s/80s light blue road jerseys from the Cardinals. Although they weren’t the best team to wear them (Royals were the only team that made sense…), seeing those always makes me thing of Ozzie, Whitey Ball, and Willie McGee…[/quote]

    Amen brotha! Like has been said here, sometimes it’s what you remember that makes it great. LOVED the Birdos in blue, and don’t forget, Darrell Porter, Tommy Herr…

  • Mark in Shiga | June 11, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    That Cubs Propaganda design is pretty spiffy, but I would have loved to the 1948 throwbacks from last year, which, like all proper Cubs jerseys, have only numbers on the backs.

    (Oh, and the apostrophe in “Keep ‘em Fighting”… fix it before Paul notices!)

  • M.Princip | June 11, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    Still admiring my, ahem, $12 can of Kiwi shoe polish.;o) Love how the banner flows out from the Kiwi logo. How about a tat of this fine tin.

  • Mark K | June 11, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    I don’t think they look that bad but powder blue with red trim would be WAY better.

  • Will | June 11, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    I know it’s cricket, but Aaron Redmond of New Zealand has one of the worst uni tape jobs in history going on right now. Due to their injury problems, he got called up from League cricket in England, and is wearing a Brendan McCullum shirt with black duct tape over the NOB and a strip across the “2″ of McCullum’s “42″ to try and make it look like 48.

    NZ are playing Ireland in the world T20 as i write this, can’t find a picture though.

  • Traxel | June 11, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    BOTH all-star game jerseys are terrible. I can’t imagine they bring in THAT much revenue.

    If the WNBA is going to do the jersey ad thing, I want to see KISS sponsor a team. Surely Gene Simmons is looking into this since there is KISS on everything else, from condoms to coffins. I’d buy one of those jerseys.

  • Matt Brosseau | June 11, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment="334263"]
    Yes it is, but is it really any worse than it’s great grandpappy?

    http://images-cdn01....

    Sure is, chum. The early-80s powder blues were predominantly powder-blue with Cardinal red as the accent color, placed in “normal” spots like the collar, at the ends of the sleeves, the name and number. This current monstrosity obviously follows a template of some sort, where the interplay of red and powder blue isn’t nearly as effective as a more traditional design.

    If MLB had, you know, wanted to get it right, they would have abandoned this template with its cacophony of polygons and gone to simple pullover one-button tops, no side panels or armpit stains. The AL could be predominantly grey with accents of Cardinal red; the NL could be predominantly red with accents of blue.

    My issue isn’t with the color, really, I liked the powder-blues…but the execution in this case sucks.

    Paul, any idea when we get to see the AL/NL game jerseys?

  • Lwiedy | June 11, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    “I’ve been wearing it 4-5 years now, and it helped me get to the NBA,” said Gortat.

    Can I attribute the silliness of this quote to an understandable language communication error?

  • Don | June 11, 2009 at 9:20 am |

    Those images from “The Professionals” bring back some great memories. I must have checked that book out of the library 10 times when I was a kid.

  • Lwiedy | June 11, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    Could it be? Is power blue the new black ;-)

  • Fez | June 11, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment="334260"]

    Also, in the same game, JC Romero of the Phillies had writing under the bill of his cap. Keith Hernandez of SNY mentioned it on air.[/quote]
    On a gray underbrim too.

    Hat didn’t look like it was an old stock Phils 5950. Rather it looked like someone had re-lined the underbrim with gray fabric.

    Maybe glue, maybe stiched? Pictures would be clutch

  • DJ | June 11, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    Paul, any idea when we get to see the AL/NL game jerseys?

    Um, you see them every day. The players wear their own team jerseys, but with the All-Star logo patch added.

  • Seth H | June 11, 2009 at 9:24 am |

    Doesn’t the Nike tat violate the NBA players’ agreement as well? If I recall, the NBA has tried to get Stephon Marbury to cover up the “Starbury” tattoo he has on his head because players are not allowed to promote a brand on court(other than the ones that are on the unis, shoes, socks, etc.).

  • Hott Rodd | June 11, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment="334280"]“I’ve been wearing it 4-5 years now, and it helped me get to the NBA,” said Gortat.

    Can I attribute the silliness of this quote to an understandable language communication error?[/quote]

    Pretty sure he meant it as having the tatoo raised his profile among big white guys. He is not just a big white guy anymore, he is the one with the Jordan tattoo.

    Oh and Powers, we all thought you eschewed the material possessions of our world and just had strips of leather tied to your feet with hemp rope..

  • Lwiedy | June 11, 2009 at 9:30 am |

    I don’t know if the wife will let me send the kid off to K-G this fall with a Billy Wade/Lou Groza lunchbox:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Matt Brosseau | June 11, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment="334284"]Paul, any idea when we get to see the AL/NL game jerseys?

    Um, you see them every day. The players wear their own team jerseys, but with the All-Star logo patch added.[/quote]

    d’oh. mea maxima culpa. I’ll stick with hockey from now on, I promise.

  • MPowers1634 | June 11, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment="334286"][quote comment="334280"]“I’ve been wearing it 4-5 years now, and it helped me get to the NBA,” said Gortat.

    Can I attribute the silliness of this quote to an understandable language communication error?[/quote]

    Pretty sure he meant it as having the tatoo raised his profile among big white guys. He is not just a big white guy anymore, he is the one with the Jordan tattoo.

    Oh and Powers, we all thought you eschewed the material possessions of our world and just had strips of leather tied to your feet with hemp rope..[/quote]

    As long as they coordinate with my ensemble!

  • Lwiedy | June 11, 2009 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment="334286"][quote comment="334280"]“I’ve been wearing it 4-5 years now, and it helped me get to the NBA,” said Gortat.

    Can I attribute the silliness of this quote to an understandable language communication error?[/quote]

    Pretty sure he meant it as having the tatoo raised his profile among big white guys. [/quote]

    But that isn’t what those words mean, so I guess it’s fair to assume he meant to say something else which is cool.

  • Hott Rodd | June 11, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment="334290"][quote comment="334286"][quote comment="334280"]“I’ve been wearing it 4-5 years now, and it helped me get to the NBA,” said Gortat.

    Can I attribute the silliness of this quote to an understandable language communication error?[/quote]

    Pretty sure he meant it as having the tatoo raised his profile among big white guys. [/quote]

    But that isn’t what those words mean, so I guess it’s fair to assume he meant to say something else which is cool.[/quote]

    yeah i guess i’m reading into it that by saying “helped me get into the NBA” he means that he was maybe more well known internationally because of it, rather than that the tattoo literally increased his skill level. Or maybe he actually thinks that the wizards era michael on his leg makes him a a better player.. he IS from Poland..

    I keed I keed..

  • MPowers1634 | June 11, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment="334289"][quote comment="334286"][quote comment="334280"]“I’ve been wearing it 4-5 years now, and it helped me get to the NBA,” said Gortat.

    Can I attribute the silliness of this quote to an understandable language communication error?[/quote]

    Pretty sure he meant it as having the tatoo raised his profile among big white guys. He is not just a big white guy anymore, he is the one with the Jordan tattoo.

    Oh and Powers, we all thought you eschewed the material possessions of our world and just had strips of leather tied to your feet with hemp rope..[/quote]

    As long as they coordinate with my ensemble![/quote]

    BTW…last week someone brought up the band They Might Be Giants that a few of us made comments about.

    During the working period of my classes, I play a pre-set playlist from my Ipod through the soundsystem.

    Istanbul, just played and you would have thought the kids had just been told that MySpace has disappeared.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Too funny.

  • Tom Servaux | June 11, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    “For reals, Scoop” has to be the greatest retort in the history of ESPN. Ralph Wiley would be proud.

    Nicely played, Paul.

  • MPowers1634 | June 11, 2009 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment="334292"][quote comment="334289"][quote comment="334286"][quote comment="334280"]“I’ve been wearing it 4-5 years now, and it helped me get to the NBA,” said Gortat.

    Can I attribute the silliness of this quote to an understandable language communication error?[/quote]

    Pretty sure he meant it as having the tatoo raised his profile among big white guys. He is not just a big white guy anymore, he is the one with the Jordan tattoo.

    Oh and Powers, we all thought you eschewed the material possessions of our world and just had strips of leather tied to your feet with hemp rope..[/quote]

    As long as they coordinate with my ensemble![/quote]

    BTW…last week someone brought up the band They Might Be Giants that a few of us made comments about.

    During the working period of my classes, I play a pre-set playlist from my Ipod through the soundsystem.

    Istanbul, just played and you would have thought the kids had just been told that MySpace has disappeared.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Too funny.[/quote]

    BTW, “Space Jam” and this channel was all Gortat was able to watch as a child.

  • chance michaels | June 11, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment="334266"][quote comment="334264"]..and why the Brannock device? lol! That is something I would never expect someone to have a tattoo of. Explain![/quote]

    It’s my Very Favorite Object. It’s a universal cultural touchstone (i.e., every single person reading this has had his or her foot in one of them) but almost nobody knows what it’s called. So it’s classically inconspicuous, hiding in plain sight. And it’s a great piece of design. A metaphor for the point of view I use when writing about many things, including uniforms.[/quote]
    I have a tattoo of a toaster on my right shoulder, for similar reasons.

    Not that it’s obscure – everybody knows what it is – but it’s still invisible in our daily lives.

  • Hott Rodd | June 11, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    That’s nobodies business but the Turks, ok Powers? Let’s just move it along here.

  • Anthony | June 11, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    In that Air Jordan logo tattoo, MJ looks a little thick – reminds me of these “Air Garcia” tees I saw at a Grateful Dead concert a decade or so ago- http://ep.yimg.com/i...

  • MPowers1634 | June 11, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    May I ask why the Cardinals had a powder blue within their uniforms?

    I have seen many a cardinal in my life, albeit sans any powder blue?

    Nor habe I seen a black blue jay, but that is neither here nor there.

  • chance michaels | June 11, 2009 at 9:56 am |

    [quote]Speaking of our sponsors, Sports Propaganda artist Chris Speakman has come up with some great new screen prints, featuring Jimmy Rollins, Chipper Jones, Ichiro, and the Cubbies. Full details here.[/quote]

    And yet, the True Blue Brew Crew still gets no love.

  • Hott Rodd | June 11, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment="334297"]In that Air Jordan logo tattoo, MJ looks a little thick – reminds me of these “Air Garcia” tees I saw at a Grateful Dead concert a decade or so ago- http://ep.yimg.com/i...

    I’m tellin you.. it’s Wizards era jordan..

  • peter | June 11, 2009 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment="334298"]May I ask why the Cardinals had a powder blue within their uniforms?

    I have seen many a cardinal in my life, albeit sans any powder blue?

    Nor habe I seen a black blue jay, but that is neither here nor there.[/quote]

    I honestly feel that if you are going to question this, it creates a slippery slope of “Green Eagle…or a Dark Navy Seahawk…”

    It’s just marketing and Branding…

    on anothernote: I was reading a book on the histroy of the Brooklyn Dodgers (Images of America series), and it stated that Baseball was actually tried on ice in the winter (1860′s I believe it said) and even though it never caught on, it created one rule that stands today….the overrunning of 1st base…does anyone know if this is valid

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment="334287"]I don’t know if the wife will let me send the kid off to K-G this fall with a Billy Wade/Lou Groza lunchbox:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Not even (from the ridiculously arcane department) a “Bobby Franklin Holding for Lou Groza” lunchbox?

    Or, a “Rick Casares Picking up the Blitz to Protect Billy Wade” lunchbox?

    (That’s is. I gotta get a life. Soon. LOL)

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 10:14 am |

    Ooops, didn’t seen that players all were identifed in accompanying description.

    Jeez, even here I have nothing to add anymore.

  • Chris | June 11, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    Maybe the biggest issue with the NL BP jerseys is the use of the powder blue, not on the side panel, but the sleeve and semi-placket piping

  • Nick | June 11, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    Has there EVER been a cap patch on the sides of an NCAA or MLB cap THAT DID NOT SUCK?

    I believe that cap patches take away from the simplicity and traditions of a baseball cap. Nike swooshes/other manufacturers included.

    The team ID is all that is needed. I know that I am watching the World Series when I am watching it. I know which stadium I am in when I am there. There are shirt/jersey sleeves and entire stadiums with surfaces to put whatever crap there is to honor/advertize/sell.

    Leave the caps alone – STARTING NOW !!!

    When a MLB player cures cancer for all time in uniform, or throws a ball to the moon, then you can create a patch for that achievement and use it to deface a MLB cap. Same for NCAA and even bantam leagues.

    That’s my opinion.

  • Alex | June 11, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    I’d buy the NL all star jersey because I actually do like the powder blue siding. It’s ingenious, and honestly, the AL jersey sucks major(word omitted). I like the color jersey better than the black stuff, especially since people notice it better.

  • Mark in Shiga | June 11, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    What kind of font will be on the back of those All Star jerseys? Basic block, like the Cardinals use?

  • Glen | June 11, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    Hey Paul,

    what was the web address for the velos and old wool tops?

  • Glen | June 11, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    for cycling i should add

  • Josh | June 11, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment="334260"]…in the same game, JC Romero of the Phillies had writing under the bill of his cap. Keith Hernandez of SNY mentioned it on air.[/quote]

    I noticed that as well, and it appeared that he was wearing an older cap, with the light gray underbill. Looks like someone’s going retro.

  • Timothy Omalley | June 11, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment="334284"]Paul, any idea when we get to see the AL/NL game jerseys?

    Um, you see them every day. The players wear their own team jerseys, but with the All-Star logo patch added.[/quote]

    Where are the Phillies and Angels players going to put that logo patch this year. They both have zero real estate on the uniforms. Do the Phillies not wear the WS champs logo for the AS Game? Do the Angels remove one of the two memorials for the game?

  • Ed | June 11, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    Paul’s segment on WNYC is on right now (10:50am).

    ed

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment="334257"]I like the All Star jerseys. Best looking ones they’ve ever had. Which isn’t saying a lot, since they are usually uglier than home-made sin. I may have to get me one of the NL ones. I wear red and powder blue together frequently. As in right now, with my UNC and StL allegiances.[/quote]
    I actually like them, too, but best ever? I’m not sure what year gets that “honor” but I think the best least bad ones in my recent memory are from the 2003 game.

    NL

    AL
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    So I guess the firewall ain’t gonna let me listen to that radio show.

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment="334282"]Could it be? Is power blue the new black ;-)[/quote]
    PBFPBS?

  • Robert | June 11, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    I have to admit, I kinda like the powder blue trim…

  • Ry Co 40 | June 11, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment="334312"]Paul’s segment on WNYC is on right now (10:50am).

    ed[/quote]

    damn… i missed it! i’ll have to check back later!

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment="334292"]Istanbul, just played and you would have thought the kids had just been told that MySpace has disappeared.[/quote]
    They liked the song that much, eh?

    I still think this photo is cute as all-get-out.

  • LI Phil | June 11, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    the NL ASG jersey is a huge fail stupid side piping

    if you were to remove it, it’d look something like this (sorry for the quick & dirty)

    MUCH BETTER

    still not good (but growing on me), but when will MLB majestic learn that those side panels are freakin horrid

  • Steve Naismith | June 11, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    I look forward to the day where Chad Ochocinco is traded to a team with a player already wearing #85, and that player refuses to give it up.

  • Jim Bullard | June 11, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    Scoop Jackson is a clown. Straight up.

  • Mike Engle | June 11, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    Good for Marcin Gortat by refusing to cover his tattoo. Reebok should have done its due diligence by, at the very least, YouTube-ing him and spotting the Jordan logo (heaven forbid actually watch him play). If they would have noticed (read: had one eye open among all their employees) the Jordan tat, they could have given him a conditional contract contingent upon covering Jordan, or they could have passed on him. But the contract is signed, and it must stand as it is unless both sides agree to modify it. Shame on Reebok, you lose, now deal with it. (Plus, I’m not-so-secretly laughing. You CAN’T be the brightest bulbs after this total airball.)

  • Ry Co 40 | June 11, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment="334322"]Good for Marcin Gortat by refusing to cover his tattoo. Reebok should have done its due diligence by, at the very least, YouTube-ing him and spotting the Jordan logo (heaven forbid actually watch him play). If they would have noticed (read: had one eye open among all their employees) the Jordan tat, they could have given him a conditional contract contingent upon covering Jordan, or they could have passed on him. But the contract is signed, and it must stand as it is unless both sides agree to modify it. Shame on Reebok, you lose, now deal with it. (Plus, I’m not-so-secretly laughing. You CAN’T be the brightest bulbs after this total airball.)[/quote]

    agreed on the “good for gortat” for not covering up his tat.

    dontcha think though… maybe HE could have given an “oh by the way…” to reebok? lol!!!

  • Glen | June 11, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=\"334319\"]the NL ASG jersey is a huge fail stupid side piping

    if you were to remove it, it\’d look something like this (sorry for the quick & dirty)

    MUCH BETTER

    still not good (but growing on me), but when will MLB majestic learn that those side panels are freakin horrid[/quote]

    I agree Phil. Without the side panels the jersey looks really good

  • Scott Gleeson Blue | June 11, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    Paul:

    It’s been stated before in this comment section, but you were en fuego throughout the Scoop dialogue — like Cornell West in a throwback jersey.

  • Squiddie | June 11, 2009 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment="334308"]Hey Paul,

    what was the web address for the velos and old wool tops?[/quote]

    Vintage Velos?

    Speaking of vintage cycling gear, I was looking at the Horton Collection and they have some nice jerseys. Check out Hugo Koblet’s Rome-Napoli-Rome leader’s jersey from 1953. Lots of great posters and awards, too.

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment="334319"]when will MLB majestic learn that those side panels are freakin horrid[/quote]
    Better question: why is anyone buying these pieces of garbage?

  • Matt Brosseau | June 11, 2009 at 11:49 am |

    In Lithuania, there’s some guy named Jordantat with an Al Gore tattoo on his arm.

    It’s Bizarro Ink Universe!

  • Will L. | June 11, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment="334272"]Speaking of tattoos…anyone see where Chad Johnson er..Ochocinco…went all Mike Tyson and had his face tattooed?? What a nutjob. Just copy and paste this link for the story and pics;
    http://www.yardbarke...

    Wow. Really Chad?

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    those stupid all-star jerseys have come a long way since 1997. tino won the derby that year.

    http://www.smeebig7....

    at least it’s just one shirt. remember 2000, when it was a vest and an undershirt?

    http://img.slate.com...

    or the urine-colored unis in 2002:

    http://sportsmed.sta...

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment="334331"]those stupid all-star jerseys have come a long way since 1997. tino won the derby that year.

    http://www.smeebig7....

    at least it’s just one shirt. remember 2000, when it was a vest and an undershirt?

    http://img.slate.com...

    or the urine-colored unis in 2002:

    http://sportsmed.sta...

    Is the AL Home Run Hitting Contest jersey black or navy?
    Each year the jerseys are based on the colors of the host team, so it should be navy, right?

    —Ricko

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    and this year’s national league jerseys are still better than the all-gray crap they wore at yankee stadium. that was not a good look.

    http://bleacherrepor...

    i love that mlb completely ignored how dumb that would look on the padres’ adrian gonzalez (brown pants) or colorado’s aaron cook and matt holiday (purple pinstripes).

  • The Great | June 11, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    Outman update

    On the local radio here they had an interview with Outman and discussed his stirrups. You can listen here
    http://www.knbr.com/...

    One interesting note, he came up through the Phillies minor league system and said they were all required to go high cuffed, anyone heard of that before?

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment="334333"]and this year’s national league jerseys are still better than the all-gray crap they wore at yankee stadium. that was not a good look.

    http://bleacherrepor...

    i love that mlb completely ignored how dumb that would look on the padres’ adrian gonzalez (brown pants) or colorado’s aaron cook and matt holiday (purple pinstripes).[/quote]

    here’s a pic of holliday wearing purple pinstripe pants with a solid gray jersey.

    they’ve got to put a stop to this. let the players wear their own BP jerseys. slap a patch on there, like the game uniforms. part of the charm of the all star game is that you see a bunch of guys in different unis playing together. the all-star uniforms ruin that, even if it’s just for practice and the home run derby. and the addition of the hats is even worse.

    http://farm4.static....

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment="334335"][quote comment="334333"]and this year’s national league jerseys are still better than the all-gray crap they wore at yankee stadium. that was not a good look.

    http://bleacherrepor...

    i love that mlb completely ignored how dumb that would look on the padres’ adrian gonzalez (brown pants) or colorado’s aaron cook and matt holiday (purple pinstripes).[/quote]

    here’s a pic of holliday wearing purple pinstripe pants with a solid gray jersey.

    they’ve got to put a stop to this. let the players wear their own BP jerseys. slap a patch on there, like the game uniforms. part of the charm of the all star game is that you see a bunch of guys in different unis playing together. the all-star uniforms ruin that, even if it’s just for practice and the home run derby. and the addition of the hats is even worse.

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

  • JRJR | June 11, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    Always like the Brannock Device. Had an uncle who sold Zips sneakers(which indicated their inherent speed with a lightning bolt logo) at Jay’s Stride Right when I was a kid. He taught me what the name of the foot measuring thing was.

    Why does Brannock look so much like Dick Cheney?

    http://www.brannock....

  • JRJR | June 11, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment="334334"]Outman update

    On the local radio here they had an interview with Outman and discussed his stirrups. You can listen here
    http://www.knbr.com/...

    One interesting note, he came up through the Phillies minor league system and said they were all required to go high cuffed, anyone heard of that before?[/quote]

    Yep. All Phillies minor’s wear them high. So did Cole Hamels when he played a couple exhibition games in Allentown this spring.

  • Robert in Dallas | June 11, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment="334319"]the NL ASG jersey is a huge fail stupid side piping

    if you were to remove it, it’d look something like this (sorry for the quick & dirty)

    MUCH BETTER

    still not good (but growing on me), but when will MLB majestic learn that those side panels are freakin horrid[/quote]

    Well done, and I agree on all counts. What is the percentage of people who like those side panels? Five percent? Ten?

    Some day, the powers-that-be will realize just how bad the side panels look. After all, it took a while, but the Expos/Mets/others superthick stripes down the sleeves/jerseys/pants finally disappeared.

  • JRJR | June 11, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    Although I don’t think stirrups are required…

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment="334328"]Better question: why is anyone buying these pieces of garbage?[/quote]
    It’s a dumb look, but somewhere there’s some level of demand.

    I personally don’t get it: I’d rather go with a better looking t-shirt or sweatshirt of my teams than an “authentic” jersey that I’d feel silly wearing. Luckily most of my teams are pretty good about their look.

  • Hott Rodd | June 11, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    btw Paul’s column is up

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment="334332"]Is the AL Home Run Hitting Contest jersey black or navy?
    Each year the jerseys are based on the colors of the host team, so it should be navy, right?[/quote]
    Ricko, I agree that it should be navy: and I’ll defer to your judgement on exactly what color it actually is. :-)

  • Al Gruwell | June 11, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    The powder blue on the All-Star jerseys is an obvious homage to the Cardinals roadies from the late ’70s. I have a Mitchell & Ness of Lou Brock in that flavor and it’s my favorite. Probably ’cause they were wearing them when I saw the game.
    Does it need to go? Ehh, maybe. But the side panels, yessir! LI Phil, make this your mission in life.
    My two cents, if they are not needed in game jerseys, why on BP jerseys? ‘Cause they need the stretchiness or whatever? Uh, no.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment="334315"][quote comment="334282"]Could it be? Is power blue the new black ;-)[/quote]
    PBFPBS?[/quote]

    Is AC/DC reissuing “Back in Powder Blue”?

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment="334320"]I look forward to the day where Chad Ochocinco is traded to a team with a player already wearing #85, and that player refuses to give it up.[/quote]
    Or just charges him an outrageous amount of money for it. :-)

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment="334343"][quote comment="334332"]Is the AL Home Run Hitting Contest jersey black or navy?
    Each year the jerseys are based on the colors of the host team, so it should be navy, right?[/quote]
    Ricko, I agree that it should be navy: and I’ll defer to your judgement on exactly what color it actually is. :-)[/quote]

    Aha! Just checked the link in The Ticker. When you scroll down for colors/sizes, says “Navy L” etc., etc.

    —Ricko

  • JRJR | June 11, 2009 at 12:25 pm |

    and look what else Brannock offers.

    http://brannock.com/...

    This is blowing my day.

  • ewc | June 11, 2009 at 12:31 pm |

    You can tell he’s gotten that jumpman logo recently…it depicts chubby MJ.

  • mike 2 | June 11, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    My 2c on the Brannock device.

    The original patent is here, filed in 1927:

    http://www.google.co...

    What I like about it is that they got it perfect the very first time. The Brannock device you’d see in a store today is the same one you’d see from 1927. Same materials, same design, same functionality.

    How many other devices have survived unchanged for 80+ years? No enhancements, no batteries, no need to make it digital or add racing stripes or speed holes.

    Its a paragon of perfect design.

  • Stoops | June 11, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    Reading or listening to anything “Scoop” Jackson has to say is well-almost unintelligent.
    He is a loud mouth and does not make much sense.
    I have his book Sole Provider.
    It is at times hard to read he goes all over the page and does not make sense half the time.Great debate.
    Great article. Glad someone has put him in his place.

  • Big Al | June 11, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    Scoop Jackson is a clown an a$$hat. Straight up.

    My name is Big Al and I approve this message.

  • Shaun | June 11, 2009 at 12:39 pm |

    A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock

  • Big Al | June 11, 2009 at 12:41 pm |

    Damn tags — my HTML looked good in the preview!

    Scoop Jackson is a clown an a$$hat. Straight up.

    My name is Big Al and I approve this message.

  • Podunk Texas | June 11, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    Three items…

    1. I saw an Apostrophe Catastrophe yesterday. This patriotic shirt had ’76 on the sleeves, but the apostrophe was an upside-down, reverse “1″ if I’m not mistaken… I’ve never seen that before.

    2. I have ADD and I can’t remember what my second thought was.

    3. Leave it to OchoCinco to tattoo his face with a tiny picture of a state that, honestly, looks like the flaccid penis of the United States of America. Sorry to any Floridians out there, but it’s true…

  • LI Phil | June 11, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment="334353"]A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock[/quote]

    perhaps it is the shoe makers’ fault?

    why am i a size 10 in nike but a size 9 for bass wejuns or cole haan’s? my foot didn’t suddenly lose a size

    /don’t shoot the messenger

  • Shaun | June 11, 2009 at 12:47 pm |

    Nikes run small in 99 out of 100 cases

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment="334356"][quote comment="334353"]A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock[/quote]

    perhaps it is the shoe makers’ fault?

    why am i a size 10 in nike but a size 9 for bass wejuns or cole haan’s? my foot didn’t suddenly lose a size

    /don’t shoot the messenger[/quote]
    I was gonna write pretty much the same thing until you beat me to it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Ah, screw it, I’ll do it anyway:

    [quote comment="334353"]A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock[/quote]
    That’s not the fault of the machine, that’s all on the shoe manufacturers. My feet will fit into anywhere from an 11 to a 12.5 (usually a 12), depending on the manufacturer. And no, I’m not talking about the difference between British and US sizes, because my Dr. Martens are size 12 (US) and my Converse are size 11.

  • Shaun | June 11, 2009 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment="334356"][quote comment="334353"]A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock[/quote]

    perhaps it is the shoe makers’ fault?

    why am i a size 10 in nike but a size 9 for bass wejuns or cole haan’s? my foot didn’t suddenly lose a size

    /don’t shoot the messenger[/quote]

    I dont think its the shoe makers, i mean we have hundreds of styles of shoes by about a dozen shoe makers, they would all have to be really messed up

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    And I just checked my feet. I’m wearing size 11.5 Timberlands.

  • Nick | June 11, 2009 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment="334320"]I look forward to the day where Chad Ochocinco is traded to a team with a player already wearing #85, and that player refuses to give it up.[/quote]

    THAT WOULD BE THE BOMB !!!!!

  • Shaun | June 11, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment="334358"][quote comment="334356"][quote comment="334353"]A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock[/quote]

    perhaps it is the shoe makers’ fault?

    why am i a size 10 in nike but a size 9 for bass wejuns or cole haan’s? my foot didn’t suddenly lose a size

    /don’t shoot the messenger[/quote]
    I was gonna write pretty much the same thing until you beat me to it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Ah, screw it, I’ll do it anyway:

    [quote comment="334353"]A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock[/quote]
    That’s not the fault of the machine, that’s all on the shoe manufacturers. My feet will fit into anywhere from an 11 to a 12.5 (usually a 12), depending on the manufacturer. And no, I’m not talking about the difference between British and US sizes, because my Dr. Martens are size 12 (US) and my Converse are size 11.[/quote]

    you can always expect some variation between shoes, be it going from adidas to nike you will probably go up half a size to a size, and all running shoes fit different than skating shoes, or fashion shoes. it seems when grown people come in knowing their shoe size, it is 10 times more accurate than the Brannock ever is, which is why i think it is the device

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    “a state that, honestly, looks like the flaccid penis of the United States of America. Sorry to any Floridians out there, but it’s true…”

    Sure nuf, and that kinda allows us a number of accurate new nicknames of ol’ Chad, doesn’t it.

    Yeah, I always figured if the Spaniards had known what Florida looked like from space they’d have named it “Flacido Domingo” …or something.

    —Ricko

  • Nick | June 11, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment="334305"]Has there EVER been a cap patch on the sides of an NCAA or MLB cap THAT DID NOT SUCK?

    I believe that cap patches take away from the simplicity and traditions of a baseball cap. Nike swooshes/other manufacturers included.

    The team ID is all that is needed. I know that I am watching the World Series when I am watching it. I know which stadium I am in when I am there. There are shirt/jersey sleeves and entire stadiums with surfaces to put whatever crap there is to honor/advertize/sell.

    Leave the caps alone – STARTING NOW !!!

    When a MLB player cures cancer for all time in uniform, or throws a ball to the moon, then you can create a patch for that achievement and use it to deface a MLB cap. Same for NCAA and even bantam leagues.

    That’s my opinion.[/quote]

    *********************************

    Doesn’t NOBODY have anything to say to defend obnoxious cap patches?

  • LI Phil | June 11, 2009 at 12:56 pm |

    hey james…

    either your inbox (at work) is full again, or it’s blocking me from sending you something … and there’s no profanity in the subject this time … so check yer yahoo

  • Hott Rodd | June 11, 2009 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment="334365"][quote comment="334305"]Has there EVER been a cap patch on the sides of an NCAA or MLB cap THAT DID NOT SUCK?

    I believe that cap patches take away from the simplicity and traditions of a baseball cap. Nike swooshes/other manufacturers included.

    The team ID is all that is needed. I know that I am watching the World Series when I am watching it. I know which stadium I am in when I am there. There are shirt/jersey sleeves and entire stadiums with surfaces to put whatever crap there is to honor/advertize/sell.

    Leave the caps alone – STARTING NOW !!!

    When a MLB player cures cancer for all time in uniform, or throws a ball to the moon, then you can create a patch for that achievement and use it to deface a MLB cap. Same for NCAA and even bantam leagues.

    That’s my opinion.[/quote]

    *********************************

    Doesn’t NOBODY have anything to say to defend obnoxious cap patches?[/quote]

    Atrocious! Clean up that double negative.

  • peter | June 11, 2009 at 12:59 pm |

    “Doesn’t NOBODY”….isn’t that a double negative?

  • Big Al | June 11, 2009 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment="334365"]Doesn’t NOBODY have anything to say to defend obnoxious cap patches?[/quote]
    Well, I definitely cannot defend your grammar.

  • Nick | June 11, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment="334364"]“a state that, honestly, looks like the flaccid penis of the United States of America. Sorry to any Floridians out there, but it’s true…”

    Sure nuf, and that kinda allows us a number of accurate new nicknames of ol’ Chad, doesn’t it.

    Yeah, I always figured if the Spaniards had known what Florida looked like from space they’d have named it “Flacido Domingo” …or something.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (“Flacidia”), haven’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti’s #85? That would be something …

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    Paul, loved the debate with Scoop. My favorite line, “There’s a difference between capitalism and greed.” You “get it” in more ways than one.

  • Mike | June 11, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    Another Nationals Spelling Error http://tinypic.com/v...

  • peter | June 11, 2009 at 1:03 pm |
  • Nick | June 11, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment="334368"]“Doesn’t NOBODY”….isn’t that a double negative?[/quote]

    That was the point, of the point, of it.
    The grammar … The grammar …

  • CoachKing | June 11, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    Another small independent sports apparel company dies at the hands of infringement lawyers.

    http://www.sonheir.c...

    With Obama of Dreams and now this, can the stoppage of NoMas and “I’m Calling it Shea” be fare behind?

  • Gretchen | June 11, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment="334363"][quote comment="334358"][quote comment="334356"][quote comment="334353"]A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock[/quote]

    perhaps it is the shoe makers’ fault?

    why am i a size 10 in nike but a size 9 for bass wejuns or cole haan’s? my foot didn’t suddenly lose a size

    /don’t shoot the messenger[/quote]
    I was gonna write pretty much the same thing until you beat me to it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Ah, screw it, I’ll do it anyway:

    [quote comment="334353"]A word on the Brannock device, from someone who is forced to use it by obnoxious mothers, that thing has never, ever, ever given me an accurate size, ive had people sized at 6 and fit into an 8, others sized at 7 and wear a 5.5… but if we dont offer to measure people’s feet, we get bad secret shops. thanks a bunch mr brannock[/quote]
    That’s not the fault of the machine, that’s all on the shoe manufacturers. My feet will fit into anywhere from an 11 to a 12.5 (usually a 12), depending on the manufacturer. And no, I’m not talking about the difference between British and US sizes, because my Dr. Martens are size 12 (US) and my Converse are size 11.[/quote]

    you can always expect some variation between shoes, be it going from adidas to nike you will probably go up half a size to a size, and all running shoes fit different than skating shoes, or fashion shoes. it seems when grown people come in knowing their shoe size, it is 10 times more accurate than the Brannock ever is, which is why i think it is the device[/quote]

    … and with the rate that shoes are cranked out of China, etc., I don’t think it’s surprising that there are variations even withing a single shoe company.

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment="334363"]you can always expect some variation between shoes, be it going from adidas to nike you will probably go up half a size to a size, and all running shoes fit different than skating shoes, or fashion shoes. it seems when grown people come in knowing their shoe size, it is 10 times more accurate than the Brannock ever is, which is why i think it is the device[/quote]
    Rock my Adidas
    Never rock Fila
    I do not sniff the coke
    I only smoke the sinsemilla…

  • Squiddie | June 11, 2009 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment="334370"][quote comment="334364"]“a state that, honestly, looks like the flaccid penis of the United States of America. Sorry to any Floridians out there, but it’s true…”

    Sure nuf, and that kinda allows us a number of accurate new nicknames of ol’ Chad, doesn’t it.

    Yeah, I always figured if the Spaniards had known what Florida looked like from space they’d have named it “Flacido Domingo” …or something.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (“Flacidia”), haven’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti’s #85? That would be something …[/quote]

    Just Griese, Marino and Csonka

    Looks like Detroit retired 85 for Chuck Hughes and the Rams retired it for Jack Youngblood.

  • breezy | June 11, 2009 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment="334372"]Another Nationals Spelling Error http://tinypic.com/v...

    they are doing all of this on purpose….right?

  • iLO | June 11, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=\"334370\"][quote comment=\"334364\"]\”a state that, honestly, looks like the flaccid penis of the United States of America. Sorry to any Floridians out there, but it’s true…\”

    Sure nuf, and that kinda allows us a number of accurate new nicknames of ol\’ Chad, doesn\’t it.

    Yeah, I always figured if the Spaniards had known what Florida looked like from space they\’d have named it \”Flacido Domingo\” …or something.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something …[/quote]

    Negative. Only 12, 13 and 39 have been retired. Although, 85\’s N.Buoniconti and Mark Duper are in Joe Robbie\’s (yeah, that\’s what i call it) ring of fame.

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 1:45 pm |

    “Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something ”

    #85 retired by the Dolphins or not, my first thought was envisioning the charming and ongoing spectacle of Ocho Cinco and Bill Parcells attempting to co-exist in the same organization.

    Whooboy, we’d be havin’ some fun now.

    —Ricko
    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment="334378"][quote comment="334370"][quote comment="334364

    Yeah, I always figured if the Spaniards had known what Florida looked like from space they'd have named it "Flacido Domingo" ...or something.

    ---Ricko[/quote]

    Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (“Flacidia”), haven’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti’s #85? That would be something …[/quote]

    Just Griese, Marino and Csonka

    Looks like Detroit retired 85 for Chuck Hughes and the Rams retired it for Jack Youngblood.[/quote]

    There’s no #85 in the Uni Watch roster. Quick, Paul! Retire the number in case Chad decides to become a member.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    I haven’t seen Teebz here today, but I think he’ll enjoy the Phoenix reference on page 21 of this week Sports Illustrated.

    And for a more general audience, there’s a few “rookie phenom” baseball cards reproduced further back.

    Also, looks like Randy Johnson puts his uniform number on the back of his cleats. At 6-10, don’t you think that he’s probably got the largest cleats in any clubhouse he’s ever been in?? Is there really a need to make sure nobody grabs yours by mistake?

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment="334379"]they are doing all of this on purpose….right?[/quote]
    My theory is that the closer you are to Washington DC, the more the ineptitude rubs off on you.

  • Big Al | June 11, 2009 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment="334384"]Also, looks like Randy Johnson puts his uniform number on the back of his cleats. At 6-10, don’t you think that he’s probably got the largest cleats in any clubhouse he’s ever been in?? Is there really a need to make sure nobody grabs yours by mistake?[/quote]
    That’s probably for the benefit of the clubhouse attendants more than the player…

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment="334366"]so check yer yahoo[/quote]
    I thought this was a family blog.

  • LI Phil | June 11, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote]it seems when grown people come in knowing their shoe size, it is 10 times more accurate than the Brannock ever is[/quote]

    to think talent like this is wasted in foot locker…

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment="334385"][quote comment="334379"]they are doing all of this on purpose….right?[/quote]
    My theory is that the closer you are to Washington DC, the more the ineptitude rubs off on you.[/quote]

    Hence the Orioles?

  • iLO | June 11, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    God I hope they NEVER do that. Navy Blue is becoming like black. In fact, we (the Dolphins) need to get rid of that navy blue from the color palette and go with our original colors. The circa 1991/1992 uniform is the perfect example.

    What’s the issue with screen printing anyway?

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment="334386"]That’s probably for the benefit of the clubhouse attendants more than the player…[/quote]Could be.

    “Hey Tim, who wears these size 19′s? Greg Maddux? David Eckstein?”

    :-))

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment="334382"]“Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something ”

    #85 retired by the Dolphins or not, my first thought was envisioning the charming and ongoing spectacle of Ocho Cinco and Bill Parcells attempting to co-exist in the same organization.

    Whooboy, we’d be havin’ some fun now.

    —Ricko
    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    Why would the Dolphins switch to navy unis?

    If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.

  • Mike Braun | June 11, 2009 at 2:01 pm |

    So…not to sound like a Communist or anything, but does anyone know where I can find a Soviet Union classic hockey jersey at a reasonable price? The only place I’ve seen it is Ebbets Field Flannels.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment="334389"]Hence the Orioles?[/quote]
    Sure. My theory is that they’d be that much more likely to screw up than the Padres.

    Right now, the total screw-up budget for this year and the next century is being used by the Nats; but if there’s any left over my money would be on the Orioles next.

    Don’t MAKE me refer you to the apostrophe discussion, Ricko… ;-)

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment="334392"]If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.[/quote]Can I ask where in the USA you live?

    Merely asking because I don’t think anyone near Chicago would make that mistake, nor anyone in the general SEC area.

    I guess it’s humbling to realize that my Bears mania is not shared worldwide.

  • Big Al | June 11, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment="334388"][quote]it seems when grown people come in knowing their shoe size, it is 10 times more accurate than the Brannock ever is[/quote]

    to think talent like this is wasted in foot locker…[/quote]
    Two days in a row, a comment makes me spit water on my monitor. Well played, Philbie. Well played.

  • iLO | June 11, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment="334392"][quote comment="334382"]“Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something ”

    #85 retired by the Dolphins or not, my first thought was envisioning the charming and ongoing spectacle of Ocho Cinco and Bill Parcells attempting to co-exist in the same organization.

    Whooboy, we’d be havin’ some fun now.

    —Ricko
    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    Why would the Dolphins switch to navy unis?

    If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.[/quote]

    Funny thing is that in the football video game NFL2k5, there were a couple of tertiary alternates for some teams that were never used. One of them being the Dolphins navy blue. There was also a KC Chiefs yellow alternate….ew.

  • peter | June 11, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment="334393"]So…not to sound like a Communist or anything, but does anyone know where I can find a Soviet Union classic hockey jersey at a reasonable price? The only place I’ve seen it is Ebbets Field Flannels.[/quote]

    http://www.russianje...

    (and why would that make you sound like a communist? I wear Soviet era stuff all the time & proudly!)

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment="334395"][quote comment="334392"]If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.[/quote]Can I ask where in the USA you live?

    Merely asking because I don’t think anyone near Chicago would make that mistake, nor anyone in the general SEC area.

    I guess it’s humbling to realize that my Bears mania is not shared worldwide.[/quote]

    DC. You’re right. The mix up never happens in the South, and it probably wouldn’t happen in the upper Midwest.

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment="334392"][quote comment="334382"]“Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something ”

    #85 retired by the Dolphins or not, my first thought was envisioning the charming and ongoing spectacle of Ocho Cinco and Bill Parcells attempting to co-exist in the same organization.

    Whooboy, we’d be havin’ some fun now.

    —Ricko
    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    Why would the Dolphins switch to navy unis?

    If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.[/quote]

    There seems to be a never ending rumor that something’s up with the Dolphins unis, probably sooner than later. Nothing changes, but the rumor hangs around. My reference to Auburn was, of course, to the entire look (white helmets and pants and all). But Imagine you knew that.

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment="334399"]You’re right. The mix up never happens in the South, and it probably wouldn’t happen in the upper Midwest.[/quote]
    Yep, I probably should have said “NFC Central Country” instead of just the Chicago area.

  • LI Phil | June 11, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment="334399"][quote comment="334395"]Can I ask where in the USA you live?[/quote]

    DC.[/quote]

    sensing a pattern here

  • iLO | June 11, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment="334400"][quote comment="334392"][quote comment="334382"]“Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something ”

    #85 retired by the Dolphins or not, my first thought was envisioning the charming and ongoing spectacle of Ocho Cinco and Bill Parcells attempting to co-exist in the same organization.

    Whooboy, we’d be havin’ some fun now.

    —Ricko
    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    Why would the Dolphins switch to navy unis?

    If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.[/quote]

    There seems to be a never ending rumor that something’s up with the Dolphins unis, probably sooner than later. Nothing changes, but the rumor hangs around. My reference to Auburn was, of course, to the entire look (white helmets and pants and all). But Imagine you knew that.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No. I got what you said Ricko. I pictured Ron Brown (sounds a lot tougher). The helmet stripes do match. I was just expressing my thoughts on a possible navy color invasion.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment="334401"][quote comment="334399"]You’re right. The mix up never happens in the South, and it probably wouldn’t happen in the upper Midwest.[/quote]
    Yep, I probably should have said “NFC Central Country” instead of just the Chicago area.[/quote]

    It’s really not that hard to differentiate this

    http://www.ptfsports...

    from this.

    http://www.fansedge....

    Or even this

    http://www.ptfsports...

    from this

    http://www.prosports...

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    Damn, I love this jersey. Such a classic.
    http://www.ptfsports...

    —Ricko

  • Tris Wykes | June 11, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    I could be mistaken, but I believe the prep player kissing the trophy in the photo link below is wearing a long-sleeve shirt with built-in padding specifically placed for lacrosse. I’ve seen garments like that for football and basketball but not for lax. Congrats to my alma mater, Hanover (NH) High, on their state DI title, by the way. http://www.vnews.com...

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment="334403"][quote comment="334400"][quote comment="334392"][quote comment="334382"]“Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something ”

    #85 retired by the Dolphins or not, my first thought was envisioning the charming and ongoing spectacle of Ocho Cinco and Bill Parcells attempting to co-exist in the same organization.

    Whooboy, we’d be havin’ some fun now.

    —Ricko
    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    Why would the Dolphins switch to navy unis?

    If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.[/quote]

    There seems to be a never ending rumor that something’s up with the Dolphins unis, probably sooner than later. Nothing changes, but the rumor hangs around. My reference to Auburn was, of course, to the entire look (white helmets and pants and all). But Imagine you knew that.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    No. I got what you said Ricko. I pictured Ron Brown (sounds a lot tougher). The helmet stripes do match. I was just expressing my thoughts on a possible navy color invasion.[/quote]

    The white/navy/white would be similar, but there’s still some differences. Ron may sound tougher, but it will always be “Ronnie.”

    http://www.hollywood...

    http://www.orlandose...

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment="334405"]Damn, I love this jersey. Such a classic.
    http://www.ptfsports...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko knows Bo.

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment="334404"][quote comment="334401"][quote comment="334399"]You’re right. The mix up never happens in the South, and it probably wouldn’t happen in the upper Midwest.[/quote]
    Yep, I probably should have said “NFC Central Country” instead of just the Chicago area.[/quote]

    It’s really not that hard to differentiate this

    http://www.ptfsports...

    from this.

    http://www.fansedge....

    Or even this

    http://www.ptfsports...

    from this

    http://www.prosports...
    I suggest that the next time someone makes that mistake, you reply with something along the lines of “No, dipshit. It’s a Broncos jersey.”

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment="334401"][quote comment="334399"]You’re right. The mix up never happens in the South, and it probably wouldn’t happen in the upper Midwest.[/quote]
    Yep, I probably should have said “NFC Central Country” instead of just the Chicago area.[/quote]

    You should have said NFC North Country, but we’ll let that one slide. Or are you ordering an “I’m Calling It The NFC Central” shirt in orange and blue?

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment="334410"][quote comment="334401"][quote comment="334399"]You’re right. The mix up never happens in the South, and it probably wouldn’t happen in the upper Midwest.[/quote]
    Yep, I probably should have said “NFC Central Country” instead of just the Chicago area.[/quote]

    You should have said NFC North Country, but we’ll let that one slide. Or are you ordering an “I’m Calling It The NFC Central” shirt in orange and blue?[/quote]

    Just don’t call it the NFC Norris.

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment="334397"][quote comment="334392"][quote comment="334382"]“Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something ”

    #85 retired by the Dolphins or not, my first thought was envisioning the charming and ongoing spectacle of Ocho Cinco and Bill Parcells attempting to co-exist in the same organization.

    Whooboy, we’d be havin’ some fun now.

    —Ricko
    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    Why would the Dolphins switch to navy unis?

    If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.[/quote]

    Funny thing is that in the football video game NFL2k5, there were a couple of tertiary alternates for some teams that were never used. One of them being the Dolphins navy blue. There was also a KC Chiefs yellow alternate….ew.[/quote]

    Even I would balk at a Chiefs yellow alt., but how about a Steelers gold alt.? Dan Rooney had said, back when the Jags were in the AFC Central, that he was considering a gold alternate since they were always playing in Jacksonville when it was hot. I’d wear one – what do yuns say, ‘burgh fans?

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment="334408"][quote comment="334405"]Damn, I love this jersey. Such a classic.
    http://www.ptfsports...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko knows Bo.[/quote]

    Nasonex missed a natural back then: BO KNOWS NOSES.
    And I meant the jersey, not necessarily its Bo specificity.
    Although he sure was fun to watch wearing it.
    Too bad he got hurt. Jeez, what an athlete.

    —Ricko

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment="334412"][quote comment="334397"][quote comment="334392"][quote comment="334382"]“Speaking of Chad #85 and Florida (\”Flacidia\”), haven\’t the Dolphins retired Nick Buonicoti\’s #85? That would be something ”

    #85 retired by the Dolphins or not, my first thought was envisioning the charming and ongoing spectacle of Ocho Cinco and Bill Parcells attempting to co-exist in the same organization.

    Whooboy, we’d be havin’ some fun now.

    —Ricko
    (P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    Why would the Dolphins switch to navy unis?

    If anything in the NFL gets mistaken for Auburn, it’s a Bears jersey. I get that all the time when I wear my #48 Stephen Davis Auburn jersey – “Is that a Bears jersey? Are you a Bears fan?” It’s pretty obvious that it’s not a Bears jersey, but it happens more than you’d think.[/quote]

    Funny thing is that in the football video game NFL2k5, there were a couple of tertiary alternates for some teams that were never used. One of them being the Dolphins navy blue. There was also a KC Chiefs yellow alternate….ew.[/quote]

    Even I would balk at a Chiefs yellow alt., but how about a Steelers gold alt.? Dan Rooney had said, back when the Jags were in the AFC Central, that he was considering a gold alternate since they were always playing in Jacksonville when it was hot. I’d wear one – what do yuns say, ‘burgh fans?[/quote]

    As a Jags fan, I miss the AFC Central. I hate the AFC South. It’s the leftover division. The West has old rivals, the North has old rivals and the East has old rivals. The South has the 4 teams no one else wanted.

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    “Even I would balk at a Chiefs yellow alt., but how about a Steelers gold alt.? Dan Rooney had said, back when the Jags were in the AFC Central, that he was considering a gold alternate since they were always playing in Jacksonville when it was hot. I’d wear one – what do yuns say, ‘burgh fans?

    OFFICIAL NOTICE:
    Any Steelers fans supporting a gold-gold combination for the Steelers henceworth waive ay and all right to criticize or any way comment upon anything worn on a football field by, but not limited to, University of Missouri, University of West Virginia, University of Oregon, University of California….

    So there. :)

    —Ricko

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment="334413"][quote comment="334408"][quote comment="334405"]Damn, I love this jersey. Such a classic.
    http://www.ptfsports...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko knows Bo.[/quote]

    Nasonex missed a natural back then: BO KNOWS NOSES.
    And I meant the jersey, not necessarily its Bo specificity.
    Although he sure was fun to watch wearing it.
    Too bad he got hurt. Jeez, what an athlete.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    He was too good to be a Raider. He and Herschel Walker should be charter members of the “Ah, What Could Have Been?” Hall of Fame.

  • LI Phil | June 11, 2009 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment="334413"][quote comment="334408"][quote comment="334405"]Damn, I love this jersey. Such a classic.
    http://www.ptfsports...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko knows Bo.[/quote]

    Nasonex missed a natural back then: BO KNOWS NOSES.
    And I meant the jersey, not necessarily its Bo specificity.
    Although he sure was fun to watch wearing it.
    Too bad he got hurt. Jeez, what an athlete.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    do you remember the ken burns baseball series? (i know you don’t get MLB channel, who’ve been re-running it, but i also know you have the set)…

    there’s a point, i think at the end of the last one (inning 9), where buck o’neil is interviewed, and he mentions hearing a certain specific sound that he only heard twice…the “foist” time it came from babe ruth’s bat…the second time, from josh gibson’s…but then, he heard it a third time

    it was the sound of the ball off of bo jackson’s bat

    that ought to tell you where bo may have someday ended up if he hadn’t played football

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment="334415"]“Even I would balk at a Chiefs yellow alt., but how about a Steelers gold alt.? Dan Rooney had said, back when the Jags were in the AFC Central, that he was considering a gold alternate since they were always playing in Jacksonville when it was hot. I’d wear one – what do yuns say, ‘burgh fans?

    OFFICIAL NOTICE:
    Any Steelers fans supporting a gold-gold combination for the Steelers henceworth waive ay and all right to criticize or any way comment upon anything worn on a football field by, but not limited to, University of Missouri, University of West Virginia, University of Oregon, University of California….

    So there. :)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oh, come on…Oregon stands in a class all by themself!

    The others I don’t criticize. In fact, I like WVU’s unis. Not the number design, but the rest of it.

  • Hickory | June 11, 2009 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment="334389"][quote comment="334385"][quote comment="334379"]they are doing all of this on purpose….right?[/quote]
    My theory is that the closer you are to Washington DC, the more the ineptitude rubs off on you.[/quote]

    Hence the Orioles?[/quote]

    the O’s may have recent history of ineptitude. But I’d challenge you to find a minor league system more stocked with young arms.

  • Paul Lukas | June 11, 2009 at 2:43 pm |

    I’m late on this, but today’s ESPN column/video is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    And the radio interview that Kirsten and I did this morning is on the web now. Unfortunately our time slot got cut in half because some guy who happens to be the governor went overtime in HIS interview, so we barely got to scratch the surface of any topic that was brought up (plus the host kept mispronouncing Kirsten’s name, grrrr), but anyway, here it is:
    http://www.wnyc.org/...

  • Mike Engle | June 11, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment="334416"][quote comment="334413"][quote comment="334408"][quote comment="334405"]Damn, I love this jersey. Such a classic.
    http://www.ptfsports...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko knows Bo.[/quote]

    Nasonex missed a natural back then: BO KNOWS NOSES.
    And I meant the jersey, not necessarily its Bo specificity.
    Although he sure was fun to watch wearing it.
    Too bad he got hurt. Jeez, what an athlete.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    He was too good to be a Raider. He and Herschel Walker should be charter members of the “Ah, What Could Have Been?” Hall of Fame.[/quote]
    Leonard Bias too.

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment="334421"][quote comment="334416"][quote comment="334413"][quote comment="334408"][quote comment="334405"]Damn, I love this jersey. Such a classic.
    http://www.ptfsports...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko knows Bo.[/quote]

    Nasonex missed a natural back then: BO KNOWS NOSES.
    And I meant the jersey, not necessarily its Bo specificity.
    Although he sure was fun to watch wearing it.
    Too bad he got hurt. Jeez, what an athlete.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    He was too good to be a Raider. He and Herschel Walker should be charter members of the “Ah, What Could Have Been?” Hall of Fame.[/quote]
    Leonard Bias too.[/quote]

    Ernie Davis

  • Big Al | June 11, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment="334421"]“][quote comment="334416"]He was too good to be a Raider. He and Herschel Walker should be charter members of the “Ah, What Could Have Been?” Hall of Fame.[/quote]
    Leonard Bias too.[/quote]
    Ladies and gentlemen, playing the role of Bill Simmons is… Mike Engle.

  • peter | June 11, 2009 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment="334420"]I’m late on this, but today’s ESPN column/video is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    And the radio interview that Kirsten and I did this morning is on the web now. Unfortunately our time slot got cut in half because some guy who happens to be the governor went overtime in HIS interview, so we barely got to scratch the surface of any topic that was brought up (plus the host kept mispronouncing Kirsten’s name, grrrr), but anyway, here it is:
    http://www.wnyc.org/...

    The governor shouldn’t be on the radio, he should be trying to fix his mess upstate….btw I hate Alban’y Jersy’s (and I know Paul will too!)

    http://blogs.insidel...

  • Mike Engle | June 11, 2009 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment="334423"][quote comment="334421"]“][quote comment="334416"]He was too good to be a Raider. He and Herschel Walker should be charter members of the “Ah, What Could Have Been?” Hall of Fame.[/quote]
    Leonard Bias too.[/quote]
    Ladies and gentlemen, playing the role of Bill Simmons is… Mike Engle.[/quote]
    Dear Lord, no…I HATE the Boston sports teams! Can’t deny though, when a #2 draft pick succumbs to cocaine and never plays a professional game, that’s a pretty famous “What If?” scenario.

  • Traxel | June 11, 2009 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment="334415"]“Even I would balk at a Chiefs yellow alt., but how about a Steelers gold alt.? Dan Rooney had said, back when the Jags were in the AFC Central, that he was considering a gold alternate since they were always playing in Jacksonville when it was hot. I’d wear one – what do yuns say, ‘burgh fans?

    OFFICIAL NOTICE:
    Any Steelers fans supporting a gold-gold combination for the Steelers henceworth waive ay and all right to criticize or any way comment upon anything worn on a football field by, but not limited to, University of Missouri, University of West Virginia, University of Oregon, University of California….

    So there. :)

    —Ricko[/quote]
    but being hypocritical is half the fun!!!

  • Greg V. | June 11, 2009 at 3:07 pm |

    I just read the Paul vs. Scoop discussion about uni-advertising. It was interesting to read a dissenting opinion than what is commonly written about here by Paul and everyone in the comments. I am completely against ads on uniforms for all the reasons Paul mentioned. The discussion highlighted the difference between the cash-strapped WNBA doing it versus the extremely profitable NFL, for example. I would see ad patches on NFL uniforms as a greedy cash-grab.
    What if your favorite NFL (or MLB) team came out and said, “to make the games accessible to more fans and more affordable in this tough economy, we’re putting a small ad patch on the jerseys, but we’re cutting all ticket and concession prices by 10%”? Would that change anyone’s opinion?

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment="334425"][quote comment="334423"][quote comment="334421"]“][quote comment="334416"]He was too good to be a Raider. He and Herschel Walker should be charter members of the “Ah, What Could Have Been?” Hall of Fame.[/quote]
    Leonard Bias too.[/quote]
    Ladies and gentlemen, playing the role of Bill Simmons is… Mike Engle.[/quote]
    Dear Lord, no…I HATE the Boston sports teams! Can’t deny though, when a #2 draft pick succumbs to cocaine and never plays a professional game, that’s a pretty famous “What If?” scenario.[/quote]

    And only Cleveland fans seem to remember that had Davis lived to play, he and Jim Brown would have been in the same backfield.

    Whoa.

    (Speaking of that, did anyone actually SEE “The Express”? In a theater an’ everything? That film must have lost SO much money. I ask because I saw the dvd for $6 at Half Price Books a couple weeks ago and pondered purchasing it, but passed.)

    —Ricko

  • skott daltonic | June 11, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    Chris Speakman is a fantastic artist and a hellofa good guy. he donated a few prints to my non-profit – http://www.monkeyhel... to help raise some money and was super great to us. great work, great dude.

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment="334420"]I’m late on this, but today’s ESPN column/video is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    [/quote]

    Loved the column/video, Paul; though I was distracted by what looked like a faux 49ers numberless jersey on you…

    Reminded me of when they tore down the Richfield Coliseum. My brother and I were vendors there for years. We knew someone who was clearing out the place before the demolition crew arrived, and he let us in to take whatever we could fit in our vehicles. We got seats, a piece of hardwood from the practice court, a partial scale model of the new arena, some Coliseum patches, a parking attendant’s coat (that was my winter coat for a few years before it got worn out) and the banner that draped in front of the scorers’ table during the Miracle of Richfield years.

    Whatever we didn’t get was buried on site. I shudder to think what’s still down there.

    By the way, the site is sort of a bird sanctuary now. The Cuyahoga Valley National Park owns the land. They were going to let trees grow there, but when birds migrating from Canada started resting there, they decided to keep trimming the field. You can even walk around there, as long as you avoid the spot where the building was (the ground has settled there and they don’t want anyone falling in). It’s quite a hike from the road (especially since I did it in the snow so I wouldn’t have to worry about poison ivy) but it was a neat experience.

  • J.D. | June 11, 2009 at 3:22 pm |

    A glimpse of some of the devastation that can result from sponsors’ logos on jerseys:
    http://www.wikimania...

    …because that’s what I think of when I think of a winning goal.

  • Robert in Dallas | June 11, 2009 at 3:24 pm |

    Love today’s feature on the relics from Shea.

    $10 for a program? Ridiculous. How much is one at Citiwhateveritscalled? $20?

  • Teebz | June 11, 2009 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment="334384"]I haven’t seen Teebz here today, but I think he’ll enjoy the Phoenix reference on page 21 of this week Sports Illustrated.[/quote]

    Been stupid busy so this is my first appearance. I’ll have to hunt down a copy of SI.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 11, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment="334431"]A glimpse of some of the devastation that can result from sponsors’ logos on jerseys:
    http://www.wikimania...

    …because that’s what I think of when I think of a winning goal.[/quote]

    oh geez!

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment="334427"]I just read the Paul vs. Scoop discussion about uni-advertising. It was interesting to read a dissenting opinion than what is commonly written about here by Paul and everyone in the comments. I am completely against ads on uniforms for all the reasons Paul mentioned. The discussion highlighted the difference between the cash-strapped WNBA doing it versus the extremely profitable NFL, for example. I would see ad patches on NFL uniforms as a greedy cash-grab.
    What if your favorite NFL (or MLB) team came out and said, “to make the games accessible to more fans and more affordable in this tough economy, we’re putting a small ad patch on the jerseys, but we’re cutting all ticket and concession prices by 10%”? Would that change anyone’s opinion?[/quote]

    I’d say keep cutting. If it were a more significant cut I’d begrudgingly welcome it. We had a similar discussion about the ads leading to a cut in the amount of commercials. A possible compromise, but would the leagues and networks agree? I’m starting to think the possibility of that happening is the same as Congress saying, “We’re going to wear a sponsor patch on our suits, but we’re cutting your taxes.”

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 3:32 pm |

    “What if your favorite NFL (or MLB) team came out and said, “to make the games accessible to more fans and more affordable in this tough economy, we’re putting a small ad patch on the jerseys, but we’re cutting all ticket and concession prices by 10%”? Would that change anyone’s opinion?”

    Trouble is, not gonna happen. Any more than Daniel Snyder and Albert Haynesworth are gonna agree to the contract being $95 million instead of $100 million so that $5 million can be used to let a whole lot of staff people keep their jobs.

    —Ricko

  • Bernard | June 11, 2009 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment="334428"][quote comment="334425"][quote comment="334423"][quote comment="334421"]“][quote comment="334416"]He was too good to be a Raider. He and Herschel Walker should be charter members of the “Ah, What Could Have Been?” Hall of Fame.[/quote]
    Leonard Bias too.[/quote]
    Ladies and gentlemen, playing the role of Bill Simmons is… Mike Engle.[/quote]
    Dear Lord, no…I HATE the Boston sports teams! Can’t deny though, when a #2 draft pick succumbs to cocaine and never plays a professional game, that’s a pretty famous “What If?” scenario.[/quote]

    And only Cleveland fans seem to remember that had Davis lived to play, he and Jim Brown would have been in the same backfield.

    Whoa.

    (Speaking of that, did anyone actually SEE “The Express”? In a theater an’ everything? That film must have lost SO much money. I ask because I saw the dvd for $6 at Half Price Books a couple weeks ago and pondered purchasing it, but passed.)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Re: The Express

    Having graduated from West Virginia University, I hope not:
    http://www.filmjourn...

  • iLO | June 11, 2009 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=\"334415\"]\”Even I would balk at a Chiefs yellow alt., but how about a Steelers gold alt.? Dan Rooney had said, back when the Jags were in the AFC Central, that he was considering a gold alternate since they were always playing in Jacksonville when it was hot. I’d wear one – what do yuns say, ‘burgh fans?

    OFFICIAL NOTICE:
    Any Steelers fans supporting a gold-gold combination for the Steelers henceworth waive ay and all right to criticize or any way comment upon anything worn on a football field by, but not limited to, University of Missouri, University of West Virginia, University of Oregon, University of California….

    So there. :)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Can\’t say I would not like the yellow jersey on the Steelers. I actually like last years throwbacks with the yellow helmet. The only thing i would do to those jerseys is make the numbers white and outline them with yellow along with adding white to the stripes on the side and also Keep the white pants as well. Awesome.

  • peter | June 11, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment="334437"]“What if your favorite NFL (or MLB) team came out and said, “to make the games accessible to more fans and more affordable in this tough economy, we’re putting a small ad patch on the jerseys, but we’re cutting all ticket and concession prices by 10%”? Would that change anyone’s opinion?”

    Trouble is, not gonna happen. Any more than Daniel Snyder and Albert Haynesworth are gonna agree to the contract being $95 million instead of $100 million so that $5 million can be used to let a whole lot of staff people keep their jobs.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Besides, the 8-10 dollars that’ll be “saved” on a Jets ticket, would simply be re-intergrated via parking and higher consessions.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 11, 2009 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment="334429"]Chris Speakman is a fantastic artist and a hellofa good guy. he donated a few prints to my non-profit – http://www.monkeyhel... to help raise some money and was super great to us. great work, great dude.[/quote]

    speaking of “good guys/uniwatch supporters”, i talked to john today from socksrock.com! he caught what could have been a minor error on my part, and was very pleasant and easy to work with! thanks john!

  • JimV19 | June 11, 2009 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment="334431"]A glimpse of some of the devastation that can result from sponsors’ logos on jerseys:
    http://www.wikimania...

    …because that’s what I think of when I think of a winning goal.[/quote]

    Okay, I was willing to compromise on the sponsor thing, but after seeing that…no ads, no compromises! I can see it now – some players kiss the team badge on their jerseys after a goal; who’s going to start kissing the sponsor logo?

  • iLO | June 11, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=\"334414]

    As a Jags fan, I miss the AFC Central. I hate the AFC South. It\’s the leftover division. The West has old rivals, the North has old rivals and the East has old rivals. The South has the 4 teams no one else wanted.[/quote]

    I hear ya man. I\’m sill not used to the 8 division alignment. AFC/NFC South/North..just doesn\’t sound right.

  • Chris in Nashville | June 11, 2009 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment="334420"]I’m late on this, but today’s ESPN column/video is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    And the radio interview that Kirsten and I did this morning is on the web now. Unfortunately our time slot got cut in half because some guy who happens to be the governor went overtime in HIS interview, so we barely got to scratch the surface of any topic that was brought up (plus the host kept mispronouncing Kirsten’s name, grrrr), but anyway, here it is:
    http://www.wnyc.org/...

    That’s the first time I’ve ever heard Paul speak. Your voice is deeper than I had imagined. I don’t know why I would think you didn’t have a New York accent.

  • Big Al | June 11, 2009 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment="334443"]I hear ya man. I’m sill not used to the 8 division alignment. AFC/NFC South/North..just doesn’t sound right.[/quote]
    Are you still saying NFL Coastal, NFL Century and NFL Capital?

  • Matt Brosseau | June 11, 2009 at 3:59 pm |

    Loved the video, Paul. I work in Bridgewater and pass near the MeiGray building every day. Too bad I didn’t know you were in the area; there’s an old-school sandwich shop around here you would have enjoyed.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | June 11, 2009 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment="334254"]Paul once taunted me with Tinker Hatfield’s e-mail address.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    Now he has a debate with Scoop Jackson, the author of my BIBLE!

    http://www.amazon.co...

    Seriously, the conversations we could have would be endless![/quote]

    Ahhh Sole Provider, it’s a sacred book in my collection too.

    Great debate Señor Lukas!! I still respect Scoop and love his work…even if he’s pro-Ad on Unis haha!

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment="334445"][quote comment="334443"]I hear ya man. I’m sill not used to the 8 division alignment. AFC/NFC South/North..just doesn’t sound right.[/quote]
    Are you still saying NFL Coastal, NFL Century and NFL Capital?[/quote]

    Know where “Century” came from?

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment="334417"]that ought to tell you where bo may have someday ended up if he hadn’t played football[/quote]

    Anyone curious about where Bo is these days?

    He’s a banker in the suburbs of Chicago. :-)

    That’s no joke. Yes, he bought into a de novo bank, and certainly his name is being thrown around as an advertisement/promotion; but OTOH he says he’s serious about learning the banking business from the ground up.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment="334448"]Know where “Century” came from?[/quote]
    Minnesota’s second choice of nicknames after Vikings: the Centurions?

    :-))

  • Mike Miller | June 11, 2009 at 4:10 pm |

    For those who haven’t clicked on the Ochocinco link recently, it’s a hoax. They’re temps. 85 played ya’ll.

    http://news.cincinna...

    The AFC South works because it consists of four teams that didn’t exist until the 1980s. Indy and Tennessee are relocates, Jacksonville and Houston are expansions, they deserve each other in a way. I suppose you could make the argument that Baltimore should be in the East with the Jets, Bills, and Pats, move the Colts to the North with Cincy, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and move Miami to the South.

  • Squiddie | June 11, 2009 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment="334428"]
    (Speaking of that, did anyone actually SEE “The Express”? In a theater an’ everything? That film must have lost SO much money. I ask because I saw the dvd for $6 at Half Price Books a couple weeks ago and pondered purchasing it, but passed.)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    The Express made under $10million. Most of that was in its opening weekend. So I guess the answer is, No.

    Nice photo of the 1960 Cotton Bowl with Ernie Davis and Coach Schwartzwalder

    Davis warming up
    Weird face guard on the Syracuse player on the right

    Another shot of a player with same face guard

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment="334410"]You should have said NFC North Country, but we’ll let that one slide. Or are you ordering an “I’m Calling It The NFC Central” shirt in orange and blue?[/quote]
    I was wondering how the Century and Coastal references we’re seeing today got started! I guess some lamebrain said “NFC Central”.

    You know, I don’t know of anyone around here who calls it the NFC North.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment="334452"]Nice photo of the 1960 Cotton Bowl with Ernie Davis and Coach Schwartzwalder[/quote]
    Methinks your links aren’t correct.

  • Squiddie | June 11, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    D’oh! Copied the wrong link. (That was a story about Aspen. Let me try again.)

    Nice photo of the 1960 Cotton Bowl with Ernie Davis and Coach Swartzwalder

  • chance michaels | June 11, 2009 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment="334451"]For those who haven’t clicked on the Ochocinco link recently, it’s a hoax. They’re temps. 85 played ya’ll.

    http://news.cincinna...
    [/quote]

    Oh, that clever, clever Mister Eightfive. What a marvelous prank he pulled.

    Is there anything that man won’t do for a little attention?

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment="334456"]Oh, that clever, clever Mister Eightfive. What a marvelous prank he pulled.

    Is there anything that man won’t do for a little attention?[/quote]

    Maybe “be a good teammate”?

  • James Craven | June 11, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment="334453"][quote comment="334410"]You should have said NFC North Country, but we’ll let that one slide. Or are you ordering an “I’m Calling It The NFC Central” shirt in orange and blue?[/quote]
    I was wondering how the Century and Coastal references we’re seeing today got started! I guess some lamebrain said “NFC Central”.

    You know, I don’t know of anyone around here who calls it the NFC North.[/quote]

    The way I heard it, all the cities in the NFL Century Division where stops on the route famous Century Limited passenger train that ran out of NY City. And, of course it gave them the Coastal, Capital, Central.

  • Eddie | June 11, 2009 at 4:31 pm |

    Ah yes, Nike shoes. One of my absolute favorite of all aesthetic choices. Call me a sell out, but I love the swoosh. I’ve always loved how their sizes differentiate so much though. I wear a size 15 in most Nikes, but a size 14 in the running shoes (Motos, Pegasuses, Vomeros, etc.), and a 13 in the classics (AF1′s, Vandals, Blazers, etc.)

    * On the topic of shoes, anyone actually ever get some personalized? That’s always an interesting discussion.

    * And about RJ51… I thought I once read that he wore a size 13 (still trying to find an internet source). The only reason I remember that, is because I thought it weird that he would wear a smaller size than a little guy like myself.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment="334459"]The way I heard it, all the cities in the NFL Century Division where stops on the route famous Century Limited passenger train that ran out of NY City. And, of course it gave them the Coastal, Capital, Central.[/quote]I cheated a little Ricko: Wiki also mentions the idea that besides the “C” symmetry, all the divisions had the same number of letters in their names.

    Personally, I think that’s giving Rozelle just a little too much credit, but maybe they did go that deep when they were looking for the name.

  • Podunk Texas | June 11, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment="334420"]
    Unfortunately our time slot got cut in half because some guy who happens to be the governor went overtime in HIS interview,[/quote]

    I bet they were trying to motion for him to stop, but he just didn’t see them…

    (was that wrong?)

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment="334460"]* And about RJ51… I thought I once read that he wore a size 13 (still trying to find an internet source). The only reason I remember that, is because I thought it weird that he would wear a smaller size than a little guy like myself.[/quote]
    Okay, I retract my earlier smartass remarks.

  • Eddie | June 11, 2009 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment="334460"]And about RJ51… I thought I once read that he wore a size 13 (still trying to find an internet source). The only reason I remember that, is because I thought it weird that he would wear a smaller size than a little guy like myself.[/quote]

    Yup, there it is.
    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment="334459"][quote comment="334453"][quote comment="334410"]You should have said NFC North Country, but we’ll let that one slide. Or are you ordering an “I’m Calling It The NFC Central” shirt in orange and blue?[/quote]
    I was wondering how the Century and Coastal references we’re seeing today got started! I guess some lamebrain said “NFC Central”.

    You know, I don’t know of anyone around here who calls it the NFC North.[/quote]

    The way I heard it, all the cities in the NFL Century Division where stops on the route famous Century Limited passenger train that ran out of NY City. And, of course it gave them the Coastal, Capital, Central.[/quote]

    I should have said, “all or most”. Original Century Division was New York, PIttsburgh, Cleveland and St. Louis. Division make up changed, as did the stops for the train, I’ll wager.

    For what it’s worth, the 20th Century Limited is the train Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint take west in NORTH BY NORTHWEST.

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment="334462"]I bet they were trying to motion for him to stop, but he just didn’t see them…[/quote]
    Well, that might be the truth; but how about all the 20/20 politicians, what excuse do they have for their hot air pollution?

    (Assuming we’re talking about a politician who isn’t under indictment if you can find one of those…)

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment="334451"]For those who haven’t clicked on the Ochocinco link recently, it’s a hoax. They’re temps. 85 played ya’ll.

    http://news.cincinna...

    The AFC South works because it consists of four teams that didn’t exist until the 1980s. Indy and Tennessee are relocates, Jacksonville and Houston are expansions, they deserve each other in a way. I suppose you could make the argument that Baltimore should be in the East with the Jets, Bills, and Pats, move the Colts to the North with Cincy, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and move Miami to the South.[/quote]

    The Colts and Oilers were around long before the 60′s despite relocation and/or name changes. The problem is this: the Jets, Dolphins, Pats and Bills have a blood oath to stick together. The Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers and Broncos have a blood oath to stick together. The Browns and Steelers have a blood oath to stick together. Same for the Browns and Bengals. Cleveland also has this with the Ravens (for obvious reasons). What does that leave you with? 4 teams, 2 who changed cities, and 2 expansion teams, who got stuck together as the AFC Leftover Division.

    What is freakin’ “south” about Indianapolis? What is “east” about Miami, or “north” about Baltimore?

    The divisions were about keeping rivalries; 3 divisions have them, and 1 division has none.

    If you wanted a true geographical alignment, it would look like this:

    South (Jax, Mia, Ten, Hou)
    North (Cin, Cle, Ind, Pit)
    East (NE, Buf, Bal, NYJ)
    West (SD, Oak, Den, KC)

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment="334461"][quote comment="334459"]The way I heard it, all the cities in the NFL Century Division where stops on the route famous Century Limited passenger train that ran out of NY City. And, of course it gave them the Coastal, Capital, Central.[/quote]I cheated a little Ricko: Wiki also mentions the idea that besides the “C” symmetry, all the divisions had the same number of letters in their names.

    Personally, I think that’s giving Rozelle just a little too much credit, but maybe they did go that deep when they were looking for the name.[/quote]

    Rozelle was a former journalist and PR guy (for the Rams). I can imagine he or someone on his staff seizing on “Century” because of the train…and to get a fourth “C”. It was one of the first “named” trains (ala the Orient Express) in the U.S. and extremely famous in the 40 or so years prior to 1967.

    —Ricko

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment="334467"][quote comment="334451"]For those who haven’t clicked on the Ochocinco link recently, it’s a hoax. They’re temps. 85 played ya’ll.

    http://news.cincinna...

    The AFC South works because it consists of four teams that didn’t exist until the 1980s. Indy and Tennessee are relocates, Jacksonville and Houston are expansions, they deserve each other in a way. I suppose you could make the argument that Baltimore should be in the East with the Jets, Bills, and Pats, move the Colts to the North with Cincy, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and move Miami to the South.[/quote]

    The Colts and Oilers were around long before the 60′s despite relocation and/or name changes. The problem is this: the Jets, Dolphins, Pats and Bills have a blood oath to stick together. The Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers and Broncos have a blood oath to stick together. The Browns and Steelers have a blood oath to stick together. Same for the Browns and Bengals. Cleveland also has this with the Ravens (for obvious reasons). What does that leave you with? 4 teams, 2 who changed cities, and 2 expansion teams, who got stuck together as the AFC Leftover Division.

    What is freakin’ “south” about Indianapolis? What is “east” about Miami, or “north” about Baltimore?

    The divisions were about keeping rivalries; 3 divisions have them, and 1 division has none.

    If you wanted a true geographical alignment, it would look like this:

    South (Jax, Mia, Ten, Hou)
    North (Cin, Cle, Ind, Pit)
    East (NE, Buf, Bal, NYJ)
    West (SD, Oak, Den, KC)[/quote]

    Shoot, I meant 80s. The Colts and Titans were around long before the 80s.

  • LI Phil | June 11, 2009 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote]I wear a size 15 in most Nikes, but a size 14 in the running shoes (Motos, Pegasuses, Vomeros, etc.), and a 13 in the classics (AF1’s, Vandals, Blazers, etc.)[/quote]

    ladies man, eh?

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment="334465"]For what it’s worth, the 20th Century Limited is the train Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint take west in NORTH BY NORTHWEST.

    [/quote]
    Never mind, for a minute I was only remembering the very last scene of the movie and not Cary Grant as a bellhop. My bad.

    (When you said “west”, I was assuming “west of Chicago”.)

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment="334468"]It was one of the first “named” trains (ala the Orient Express) in the U.S. and extremely famous in the 40 or so years prior to 1967.[/quote]
    One of the few other train trivia facts I have is that the Broadway Limited was not named for the NYC theater district, as some people believe.

  • Eddie | June 11, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    Just watched the Page 2 video. Like a previous poster, I never imagined Paul with a somewhat deep voice. haha. Interesting video. Other than the flag, I didn’t see anything that I would want to buy. If I was gonna purchase something, I’d want something that was completely individual to that stadium, something you couldn’t find somewhere else.

  • War Damn Eagle | June 11, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment="334467"][quote comment="334451"]For those who haven’t clicked on the Ochocinco link recently, it’s a hoax. They’re temps. 85 played ya’ll.

    http://news.cincinna...

    The AFC South works because it consists of four teams that didn’t exist until the 1980s. Indy and Tennessee are relocates, Jacksonville and Houston are expansions, they deserve each other in a way. I suppose you could make the argument that Baltimore should be in the East with the Jets, Bills, and Pats, move the Colts to the North with Cincy, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and move Miami to the South.[/quote]

    The Colts and Oilers were around long before the 60′s despite relocation and/or name changes. The problem is this: the Jets, Dolphins, Pats and Bills have a blood oath to stick together. The Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers and Broncos have a blood oath to stick together. The Browns and Steelers have a blood oath to stick together. Same for the Browns and Bengals. Cleveland also has this with the Ravens (for obvious reasons). What does that leave you with? 4 teams, 2 who changed cities, and 2 expansion teams, who got stuck together as the AFC Leftover Division.

    What is freakin’ “south” about Indianapolis? What is “east” about Miami, or “north” about Baltimore?

    The divisions were about keeping rivalries; 3 divisions have them, and 1 division has none.

    If you wanted a true geographical alignment, it would look like this:

    South (Jax, Mia, Ten, Hou)
    North (Cin, Cle, Ind, Pit)
    East (NE, Buf, Bal, NYJ)
    West (SD, Oak, Den, KC)[/quote]

    It’s just weird that Jax and Miami are 2 teams in the same state, and in the same conference, but not in the same division, and therefore have no real history or rivalry. Cleveland and Cincinnati, the Jets and Bills, the Raiders and Chargers.

    Sure, there are other teams that share a state, but when it’s an NFC and AFC team, the rivalry isn’t necessarily there on an annual basis (Phi/Pit) (Bal/Was) (StL/KC) (Hou/Dal) (Jax/TB) (Mia/TB) (SD/SF) (Oak/SF) (NYJ/NYG).

    The Jags and Dolphins have played one meaningful game, ever, and most people probably don’t remember it. The Jags crushed Dan Marino in his final game, 2000 divisional round, 62-7. That’s it, one game.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment="334470"]ladies man, eh?[/quote]
    Big shoes mean… big socks.

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment="334470"][quote]I wear a size 15 in most Nikes, but a size 14 in the running shoes (Motos, Pegasuses, Vomeros, etc.), and a 13 in the classics (AF1’s, Vandals, Blazers, etc.)[/quote]

    ladies man, eh?[/quote]

    Or maybe it’s Bugs Bunny using a nomme de post?

  • Ricko | June 11, 2009 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment="334472"][quote comment="334468"]It was one of the first “named” trains (ala the Orient Express) in the U.S. and extremely famous in the 40 or so years prior to 1967.[/quote]
    One of the few other train trivia facts I have is that the Broadway Limited was not named for the NYC theater district, as some people believe.[/quote]

    I think that was THE first named train. Maybe.

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment="334449"][quote comment="334417"]that ought to tell you where bo may have someday ended up if he hadn’t played football[/quote]

    Anyone curious about where Bo is these days?

    He’s a banker in the suburbs of Chicago. :-)

    That’s no joke. Yes, he bought into a de novo bank, and certainly his name is being thrown around as an advertisement/promotion; but OTOH he says he’s serious about learning the banking business from the ground up.[/quote]
    He’s also “teamed up” with John Cangelosi on a huge sports training facility in the SW suburbs.

  • Joe | June 11, 2009 at 4:54 pm |

    This reminds me of when I used to see Nike stickers on cars in the late ’90s. Even as a highschool kid it struck me as the dumbest thing ever. Why would you advertise a company?! Now, if Nike wants to send a fat check my direction, I’d consider…

  • Eddie | June 11, 2009 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment="334470"][quote]I wear a size 15 in most Nikes, but a size 14 in the running shoes (Motos, Pegasuses, Vomeros, etc.), and a 13 in the classics (AF1’s, Vandals, Blazers, etc.)[/quote]

    ladies man, eh?[/quote]

    haha. Don’t believe the hype. Just a guy who drank buttloads of milk growing up, and can’t buy shoes at the mall.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment="334478"]He’s also “teamed up” with John Cangelosi on a huge sports training facility in the SW suburbs.[/quote]That’s a bit of a team of unequals. :-)

    Those things are popping up like weeds. There’s a “fieldhouse” out in Barrington too. I know some of the local college footballers who were projected as either FA’s or late-round choices were working out together out there.

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment="334479"]This reminds me of when I used to see Nike stickers on cars in the late ’90s. Even as a highschool kid it struck me as the dumbest thing ever. Why would you advertise a company?! Now, if Nike wants to send a fat check my direction, I’d consider…[/quote]
    Late 90s? I saw one of those earlier this week — rear window of a Tahoe that had a giant swoosh with “Nike Air Force One” below it. Unfortunately, the driver turned the corner before I could take a photo.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment="334478"]
    He’s also “teamed up” with John Cangelosi on a huge sports training facility in the SW suburbs.[/quote]Sorry JTH, once again I’m having a hard time making my posts stick here. I’ll be back tomorrow.

  • JTH | June 11, 2009 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment="334483"][quote comment="334478"]
    He’s also “teamed up” with John Cangelosi on a huge sports training facility in the SW suburbs.[/quote]Sorry JTH, once again I’m having a hard time making my posts stick here. I’ll be back tomorrow.[/quote]
    Um, what? Did you already mention this or something? It may seem like I’m always on here, but there are actually days that go by where I don’t get a chance to read every single comment.

  • anotherguy | June 11, 2009 at 5:36 pm |

    [quote comment="334484"]Um, what? Did you already mention this or something? It may seem like I’m always on here, but there are actually days that go by where I don’t get a chance to read every single comment.[/quote]
    Seriously, I don’t know what’s going on. My first reply to this subject seems to come and go in the comments list. :-)

    It wasn’t important at all. Just a funky computer glitch of some sort.

    Every SINGLE comment? Wow. Usually I start at the bottom and work up, looking for some of the posters with a name/handle I recognize. :-)

  • =bg= | June 11, 2009 at 5:42 pm |

    “….and now part of the area surrounding the new Shea stadium.”

    What new Shea stadium?

  • Mickey S. | June 11, 2009 at 5:44 pm |

    I may have missed it, but I didn’t notice any comment on the Atlanta Braves’ Barbaro Canizares making his big league debut today, and coming to the plate without the “A” sticker on his batting helmet during his first at-bat. The “A” appeared for his second AB, though.

  • Mickey S. | June 11, 2009 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment="334487"]I may have missed it, but I didn’t notice any comment on the Atlanta Braves’ Barbaro Canizares making his big league debut today, and coming to the plate without the “A” sticker on his batting helmet during his first at-bat. The “A” appeared for his second AB, though.[/quote]

    Couldn’t find a pic of him without the “A”, but this video shows his first hit (in 3rd at-bat) and Braves’ color commentator Joe Simpson remarking, “He just needed an ‘A’”.

    http://atlanta.brave...

  • Nick | June 11, 2009 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment="334390"](P.S. If the Dolphins ever did switch to navy jerseys without changing much else, they’d be WAY to mindful of Auburn. Nothing wrong with Auburn, just that the Dolphins ought to look like the Dolphins)[/quote]

    God I hope they NEVER do that. Navy Blue is becoming like black. In fact, we (the Dolphins) need to get rid of that navy blue from the color palette and go with our original colors. The circa 1991/1992 uniform is the perfect example.

    What’s the issue with screen printing anyway?[/quote]

    EXACTLY !

    By the way, Didn’t the Dolphins originally wear a more “green” shade of aqua?

    Or is it just my series of bad TV sets and/or NBC’s poor color that made it look more and more like the Oilers’ color blue?

  • Nick | June 11, 2009 at 7:34 pm |

    [quote comment="334418"][quote comment="334415"]“Even I would balk at a Chiefs yellow alt., but how about a Steelers gold alt.? Dan Rooney had said, back when the Jags were in the AFC Central, that he was considering a gold alternate since they were always playing in Jacksonville when it was hot. I’d wear one – what do yuns say, ‘burgh fans?

    OFFICIAL NOTICE:
    Any Steelers fans supporting a gold-gold combination for the Steelers henceworth waive ay and all right to criticize or any way comment upon anything worn on a football field by, but not limited to, University of Missouri, University of West Virginia, University of Oregon, University of California….

    So there. :)

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oh, come on…Oregon stands in a class all by themself!

    The others I don’t criticize. In fact, I like WVU’s unis. Not the number design, but the rest of it.[/quote]

    AGREED

    I think Old Gold and Yellow/gold are both underused where they often should be used as jersey colors.

    Probably NOT for the Chiefs, as that would look like Iowa State at a weak moment of judgment.

    But I certainly could see a Steelers alternate. Particularly where you could avoid wearing Black jerseys in 99 degrees at noon in Florida. Perhaps it would look better with White pants, rather that all Yellow/Gold.

    Give it to Mr. Rooney, he wasn’t looking to sell yet another jersey, he was considering Yellow/Gold alternates as a way to help his players – the best of any possib;le intentions.

    by the way, the University of Tenn.-Chattanooga has the best Old Gold jersey going right now. Dark Old Gold, the way ALL of them should be.

    Vegas Gold is simply one of the signs of the Sports/manufacterer-dictating-colors-and- tradition-alterations/Nike-style Apocalypse

    Cal and WVA both look great.

  • Joe Barrie | June 11, 2009 at 7:50 pm |

    I hate to knock a new sponsor, but I wish to express my distress at a seller of “Cooperstown Collection” baseball caps.

    Many are pure fabrications. Most reflect laziness. As an example, the New York Giants had the same cap insignia from the early twentieth century until 1949, when they adopted the formulation that the Mets eventually distorted.

    The mistakes of American Needle are equalled by those of your friends at Mitchell and Ness. Numerous photographs of old uniforms and caps are readily available, and I feel that these manufacturers ought put in some effort to evaluate them more accurately.

  • BradyMcGrady | June 11, 2009 at 10:30 pm |

    just looked at the professionals album, fell in love with this jersey:

    http://www.flickr.co...

    and paul, the espn video was the first time i’ve got to ‘meet you’. not only was the video great, but i have a whole new respect for you. you were hilarious. keep up the amazing work man

  • Mike Miller | June 12, 2009 at 12:09 am |

    [quote comment="334469"][quote comment="334467"][quote comment="334451"]For those who haven’t clicked on the Ochocinco link recently, it’s a hoax. They’re temps. 85 played ya’ll.

    http://news.cincinna...

    The AFC South works because it consists of four teams that didn’t exist until the 1980s. Indy and Tennessee are relocates, Jacksonville and Houston are expansions, they deserve each other in a way. I suppose you could make the argument that Baltimore should be in the East with the Jets, Bills, and Pats, move the Colts to the North with Cincy, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and move Miami to the South.[/quote]

    The Colts and Oilers were around long before the 60′s despite relocation and/or name changes. The problem is this: the Jets, Dolphins, Pats and Bills have a blood oath to stick together. The Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers and Broncos have a blood oath to stick together. The Browns and Steelers have a blood oath to stick together. Same for the Browns and Bengals. Cleveland also has this with the Ravens (for obvious reasons). What does that leave you with? 4 teams, 2 who changed cities, and 2 expansion teams, who got stuck together as the AFC Leftover Division.

    What is freakin’ “south” about Indianapolis? What is “east” about Miami, or “north” about Baltimore?

    The divisions were about keeping rivalries; 3 divisions have them, and 1 division has none.

    If you wanted a true geographical alignment, it would look like this:

    South (Jax, Mia, Ten, Hou)
    North (Cin, Cle, Ind, Pit)
    East (NE, Buf, Bal, NYJ)
    West (SD, Oak, Den, KC)[/quote]

    Shoot, I meant 80s. The Colts and Titans were around long before the 80s.[/quote]

    Yes, they were around way before the 80s, but neither franchise does much of anything to acknowledge their former city. In the RCA Dome, only Indianapolis players and achievements were displayed, nothing about the Baltimore days. I believe the same applies for Tennessee. So they might as well be expansion teams.

    Of course the NFC East has Dallas, when Carolina should probably be in the East and Dallas in the South (or the West with St. Louis moving to the South). Yeah it’s about rivalries, but if they got the geography right back then, the rivalries wouldn’t have turned out the way they did.

  • Podunk Texas | June 12, 2009 at 12:32 am |

    there are three things in this world that really bother me…

    1. glitter (that crap is the herpes of the craft world)
    2. poor grammar/spelling (misusing the words to/too, misspelling y’all, etc)
    3. chad johnson, aka ochocinco… he is such a massive tool.

    his stupid twitter hoax is the most ridiculous grab at attention i’ve ever seen… and the fool just reeled us in–myself included. i even used it to make a lame joke about how florida looks like a flaccid penis.

    oh well, in the same post, i also mentioned a bit about apostrophes with the photos of the apostrophe catastrophe and stuff; hopefully it’ll make the ticker and make ochocinco’s stupid stunt a little more worthwhile…

  • Shaun | June 12, 2009 at 2:01 am |

    I was editing out the horrid underarms on the AL jersey, as Phil did for the NL, and it looks like the AL uses two different pipings, a solid red for the collar/neck, and a red/white for the sleeves, while the NL uses solid powder blue for both… wtf?

  • Joe | June 12, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment="334482"][quote comment="334479"]This reminds me of when I used to see Nike stickers on cars in the late ’90s. Even as a highschool kid it struck me as the dumbest thing ever. Why would you advertise a company?! Now, if Nike wants to send a fat check my direction, I’d consider…[/quote]
    Late 90s? I saw one of those earlier this week — rear window of a Tahoe that had a giant swoosh with “Nike Air Force One” below it. Unfortunately, the driver turned the corner before I could take a photo.[/quote]

    It’s more than a little pathetic that people still do that! Especially now that we all should’ve wisened up to the marketing behind it all.