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The Revolution Will Not Be Is Being Televised

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Latest member of Stirrup Nation: Marlins pitcher Burke Badenhop (whose name is a perfectly baseball-ized version of Boris Badenov). He’s apparently been wearing them all season long — and also last year, and also in the minors — but I wasn’t aware of it until Milwaukee broadcasters Brian Anderson and Bill Schroeder had the following conversation during last night’s Brewers/Marlins game:

Brian Anderson: Badenhop’s wearing the old-fashioned stirrups. You don’t see guys wearing the stirrups very often. That’s a lost art, the stirrups. Those are old-school. Normally guys just wear, y’know, the black socks, the full socks.

Bill Schroeder: Right. I didn’t think they made ’em anymore.

Anderson: I think they’re making a comeback.

Schroeder: I think you have to special-order those online.

Anderson: Gotta go to the, uh, the retro department?

Schroeder: Right. Those are not in the, uh, the sanitary sock bin in the clubhouse. [Chuckles. Anderson chuckles back, although nobody has said anything funny.] That’s not an option.

Anderson: Those are a custom job, you say?

Schroeder: Yeah.

Anderson: I’ve seen a few players wearing them, though, you know. I think there’s a little bit of a comeback comin’.

Schroeder: Yeah. Have to go to a local sporting goods store, maybe, pick some up.

Anderson: That was the best day of the year, wasn’t it? Go get your uniform…

Schroeder: Yup.

Anderson: …get those stirrups wrapped up.

Schroeder: You ever cut the bottoms of the stirrups and put the elastic in?

Anderson: Yeah.

Schroeder: So you just had that one strip goin’ up.

Anderson: And then, you know, when you get to high school, and you get all the hand-me-down stuff, you know. And so they’ve been through the bin a few times. They’re all stretched out and then you’ve actually gotta flip ’em over your foot to get ’em back down again. Did you ever do that?

Schroeder: Probably not.

Anderson: Big leaguer.

Schroeder: I don’t know what you’re talkin’ about.

Anderson: Oh, you take — so, the stirrup is high. [Schroeder chuckles for some reason.] So you pull it down, then you loop it…

Schroeder: Right!

Anderson: …wrap it around your foot…

Schroeder: Gotcha.

Anderson: … and it brings it down into this position.

Schroeder: Doesn’t that bundle up under your foot?

Anderson: Well it does, but you, you’re more impressed with the aesthetics than you are with the…

Schroeder: Not when you’re catching.

Anderson: …the wad in your foot. That’s one of those things you probably didn’t have to deal with at Clemson, or in the majors.

Schroeder: Oh, yeah. I player high school ball. Remember?

Anderson: You did? I thought you went straight from Little League to Clemson.

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And from there things got seriously silly. Gotta admit, I’d never heard of the looping/bunching maneuver that Anderson described. Anyone else?

(Special thanks to reader Geoff Poole for alerting me to this one.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: Now you can urge the Mets to wear blue more often and help cure cancer at the same time. … A Cleveland-area drive-in movie theater won a restraining order against a local sports complex because of the latter’s bright lights (thanks, Vince). … Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton. … In 1953, the New York Giants toured Japan. This promotional belt buckle was produced for the occasion (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Greg Riffenburgh spotted a particularly good shot of David Carr wearing tape instead of his wedding band, or tape over his wedding band (did we ever settle on which one it was?). … I think I’ve linked to this before, but just in case: Good visual history of the Cincinnati Bearcat mascot here (with thanks to Alan Kreit). … The Binghamton Mets will be holding a Star Trek Night promotion this Friday (with thanks to Mike Verna). … This list of MLBers discussing their walk-up music choices would be a lot better if they’d included Cliff Floyd explaining why he once chose the Sanford & Son theme (with thanks to Jon Alviani). … Further development on the uni advertising front (with thanks to Ryan Patrick). … In Tuesday’s France/Nigeria friendly match, French players wore Braille NOBs, in honor of Louis Braille’s 200th birthday (with thanks to Julien Papa). … Whoa, check out the Chargers’ white throwbacks! … John Okray notes that Jeff Soupan was having sleeve patch troubles the other day, although it was corrected later in the game. … Also from John: “PGA of America CEO Joe Steranka threw out the ceremonial first pitch at a recent Brewers game. He was there promoting the 2010 PGA Championship at Whistling Straits, and he had the PGA Championship trophy (the Wannamaker Trophy) behind the mound. Question is, how often do people bring out props, or trophies, or other things to the mound to throw out the first pitch?” … Dan Cichalski saw this small memorabilia display at the LL Bean flagship store in Freeport, Maine, last week. … I’ll be dealing with a family situation today, so Phil will be minding the store. Please treat him right. Thanks.

 

281 comments to The Revolution Will Not Be Is Being Televised

  • Adam | June 3, 2009 at 7:39 am |

    We used to “Loop” our stirrups in high school. Our coaches always ordered 9″ stirrups and most of us preferred the 4″ variety so what we did is pulled the stirrups down, twisted them and put the slack back around our foot, giving us the look we wanted.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 7:56 am |

    The Stirrup Nation team roster is a bit pitcher-heavy, wouldn’t you say?

  • Matt Brosseau | June 3, 2009 at 8:07 am |

    “Soupan?” Surely it’s “Suppan”.

    Hope all’s well and you’re back to Uni Watching, Paul.

    Craig Carton and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Boomer Esiason were ripping SNY’s Kevin Burkhardt this morning for Burkhardt’s in-game analysis of the various Mets uniforms. Unsurprising, since Carton’s actual sports knowledge could fit into a pint container from the deli.

  • Matt | June 3, 2009 at 8:17 am |

    There’s a great story about the Giants’ 1953 tour. Leo Durocer apparently thought he could dispense with signs and just yelled from the dugout “Steal on the next pitch”, not realizing that the Japanese catcher, Wally Yonamine, was actually from Hawaii.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 8:28 am |

    Question is, how often do people bring out props, or trophies, or other things to the mound to throw out the first pitch?”

    There’s no photos of the actual pitches on this page, but last summer, Chris Chelios brought the Stanley Cup with him as he threw out the first pitch at a Cubs game and then later that day at a White Sox game.

    And then there’s Patrick Sharp, who actually used his prop to “throw” the pitch.

  • Dane | June 3, 2009 at 8:34 am |

    A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....

    Full article here:
    http://community.pos...

  • silentfrank | June 3, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    Best wishes for whatever may be going on family wise.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 8:36 am |

    were cartoon women hotter than actual women back in the 50’s? haha

    http://www.libraries...

    kidding.

    i thought of rob’s great artwork right away when i saw that!

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 8:36 am |

    I was one of those who used the loop method.

    I have ALWAYS detested the thin stirrup, as well as the 9 inch, so I would bring the stirrup down as low as I could to provide slack for the loop.
    I would then go twice around my foot to keep the stirrup low.

    As I was a catcher, it would become a bit uncomfortable after a while, but it was done in the name of uni-aesthetics…just one more example of my inevitable collision with UW!

  • Casey Hart | June 3, 2009 at 8:39 am |

    I also used to do the loop around the foot in high school. The wad was a little uncomfortable, but it was an aesthetic sacrifice for the smaller opening. I think Coach Anderson made us switch to the soccer socks senior year.

  • Rob Ullman | June 3, 2009 at 8:41 am |

    [quote comment=”332521″]were cartoon women hotter than actual women back in the 50’s? haha
    [/quote]

    If you have any doubt that they were, go over to Google images and type in “Jack Cole”. Hubba hubba!

    And thanks, Ry Co!

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 8:41 am |

    [quote comment=”332516″]”Soupan?” Surely it’s “Suppan”.

    Hope all’s well and you’re back to Uni Watching, Paul.

    Craig Carton and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Boomer Esiason were ripping SNY’s Kevin Burkhardt this morning for Burkhardt’s in-game analysis of the various Mets uniforms. Unsurprising, since Carton’s actual sports knowledge could fit into a pint container from the deli.[/quote]

    Matt,
    Where do you hail from?

  • Rob Ullman | June 3, 2009 at 8:42 am |

    HTML fail.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 8:47 am |

    [quote comment=”332524″][quote comment=”332521″]were cartoon women hotter than actual women back in the 50’s? haha
    [/quote]

    If you have any doubt that they were, go over to Google images and type in “Jack Cole”. Hubba hubba!

    And thanks, Ry Co![/quote]

    (and the late 30’s early 40’s)

    http://www.air-and-s...

    no problem rob! i’m a big fan of your work!

  • Mark in Shiga | June 3, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    [quote]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....
    [/quote]

    Classic jersey, but it would look infinitely better if they put the NOB in that orange space across the shoulders rather than leaving it blank and putting the name below it.

    (I love that Rangers font, with the “surrounding” shadows. Looks much better than the “slide\ shadows that the Mets use.)

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 8:49 am |

    [quote comment=”332522″]I was one of those who used the loop method.

    I have ALWAYS detested the thin stirrup, as well as the 9 inch, so I would bring the stirrup down as low as I could to provide slack for the loop.
    I would then go twice around my foot to keep the stirrup low.

    As I was a catcher, it would become a bit uncomfortable after a while, but it was done in the name of uni-aesthetics…just one more example of my inevitable collision with UW![/quote]

    so, like this, then?

    [quote comment=”332526″]HTML fail.[/quote]

    and fixed ;)

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 8:54 am |

    [quote comment=”332527″][quote comment=”332524″][quote comment=”332521″]were cartoon women hotter than actual women back in the 50’s? haha
    [/quote]

    If you have any doubt that they were, go over to Google images and type in “Jack Cole”. Hubba hubba!

    And thanks, Ry Co![/quote]

    (and the late 30’s early 40’s)

    http://www.air-and-s...

    no problem rob! i’m a big fan of your work![/quote]

    I will be heading to Barnes and Noble ASAP!

    [quote comment=”332529″][quote comment=”332522″]I was one of those who used the loop method.

    I have ALWAYS detested the thin stirrup, as well as the 9 inch, so I would bring the stirrup down as low as I could to provide slack for the loop.
    I would then go twice around my foot to keep the stirrup low.

    As I was a catcher, it would become a bit uncomfortable after a while, but it was done in the name of uni-aesthetics…just one more example of my inevitable collision with UW![/quote]

    so, like this, then?

    [quote comment=”332526″]HTML fail.[/quote]

    and fixed ;)[/quote]

    No, those are just plain old socks, but I have ALWAYS worn my cuffs high.

    And I go with Zoom Clippers that I found at Woodbury Commons for a song:

    http://s7ondemand1.s...

  • Mark K | June 3, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    How sweet would it be if that Chargers jersey had the AFL logo in place of that NFL Equipment badge?

  • ESS | June 3, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    I think the more important point of the flag item in the ticker is how is Canada a first seed over the US in a football tournament?

  • Geeman | June 3, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    While we’re on the subject of stirrups and uni practices, I umped an Open League game last night, with both teams mainly consisting of college players.

    I saw everything from high cuffs to Baggy Manny’s. From Flat brims to Frat brims, no ethnic jokes please. From white spikes to Nike ID red, white and grey spikes. From phiten sleeves to D-BAACKS plackets.

    Very interesting, but they did wear them all well.

    It is in the lower levels where I have seen everything from low cuffs wuth quarter socks to sagging beltless pants and jerseys incessantly
    untucked.

    I instructed one youngster about 6 times to tuck his jersey in, “To look like a ballplayer”.

    To this he responded, “I don’t see what’s wrong”.

    In time, he will.

    Just yesterday, I had to instruct a kid to take the “Flex-fit” sticker off of the brim of his cap.

    It is popular for kids in my area to wear 5950’s with all of the original decals on the topside of the brim.

    What struck me as desperate with this young lad, was that his team cap was made by a lesser known company so the flex fit decal was a stretch.

    Youth is definitely wasted on the young.

  • Paddy F | June 3, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    Jamie Walker the other night, pitching against the mariners, went with stirrups and relatively low cuffs:
    http://i694.photobuc...

  • PCFriarsDan | June 3, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    The looping story brings me back. In Little League we always got stirrups but no sanitaries, meaning my white gym socks never went well with the stirrups. My brother and I took a liking to Jim Thome’s high socks with no white showing. My 12 year old team was yellow, so I decided to create makeshift one color look and basically tied the open portion of the stirrup around my foot in my cleats. It wasn’t very comfortable, but the look was worth it. I can say with almost 100% certainty I was the only kid in my league with solid socks.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 9:11 am |

    [quote comment=”332529″][quote comment=”332522″]I was one of those who used the loop method.

    I have ALWAYS detested the thin stirrup, as well as the 9 inch, so I would bring the stirrup down as low as I could to provide slack for the loop.
    I would then go twice around my foot to keep the stirrup low.

    As I was a catcher, it would become a bit uncomfortable after a while, but it was done in the name of uni-aesthetics…just one more example of my inevitable collision with UW![/quote]

    so, like this, then?

    [quote comment=”332526″]HTML fail.[/quote]

    and fixed ;)[/quote]

    Should I be impressed or worried?

    You often pull up pics like this at the drop of a stars and stripes.

    I hope you simply maneuver through old posts instead of calling upon a folder on your photobucket page.

  • TMD | June 3, 2009 at 9:13 am |

    Paul,

    When did you take over the American Cancer Society?

    http://main.acsevent...

    I do love this idea.

  • Geeman | June 3, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”332538″]Paul,

    When did you take over the American Cancer Society?

    http://main.acsevent...

    I do love this idea.[/quote]

    A long-awaited idea. Bring back the pinstripes too.

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”332519″]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....

    Full article here:
    http://community.pos...

    Dammit. Despite that being a replica jersey, that woman has good taste. Anyone have her digits? I’d be interested in her other hockey tastes. lol

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”332540″][quote comment=”332519″]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....

    Full article here:
    http://community.pos...

    hockey tastes[/quote]

    oxymoron

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 9:27 am |

    [quote]Should I be impressed or worried?[/quote]

    be afraid

    be very, very afraid

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”332528″][quote]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....
    [/quote]

    Classic jersey, but it would look infinitely better if they put the NOB in that orange space across the shoulders rather than leaving it blank and putting the name below it.
    [/quote]

    It would entirely wrong if the name was on the shoulders, Mark. She’s just wearing it back because it’s probably way bigger on her than it would be on a guy.

    Here’s from the 1984 All-Star Game. The name is on the white.

  • Bernard | June 3, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”332527″][quote comment=”332524″][quote comment=”332521″]were cartoon women hotter than actual women back in the 50’s? haha
    [/quote]

    If you have any doubt that they were, go over to Google images and type in “Jack Cole”. Hubba hubba!

    And thanks, Ry Co![/quote]

    (and the late 30’s early 40’s)

    http://www.air-and-s...

    no problem rob! i’m a big fan of your work![/quote]

    Oh man – Ry – check your Facebook…

  • Ian D. | June 3, 2009 at 9:33 am |

    When I played in college (1993-1997), our coach refused to order anything but the 9″ stirrups, so most of us would use the loop method. A few guys tried to use solid socks instead, but since I was the judge of our team’s kangaroo court, I would fine them when they did. So almot everyone wore some form of stirrups…I doubt that’s the case anymore.

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”332543″][quote comment=”332528″][quote]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....
    [/quote]

    Classic jersey, but it would look infinitely better if they put the NOB in that orange space across the shoulders rather than leaving it blank and putting the name below it.
    [/quote]

    It would entirely wrong if the name was on the shoulders, Mark. She’s just wearing it back because it’s probably way bigger on her than it would be on a guy.

    Here’s from the 1984 All-Star Game. The name is on the white.[/quote]

    WTF? My link is gone, and my HTML seems to be retarded today. Here’s Rod Langway’s 1984 Wales Conference jersey. Note the name placement.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”332546″][quote comment=”332543″][quote comment=”332528″][quote]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....
    [/quote]

    Classic jersey, but it would look infinitely better if they put the NOB in that orange space across the shoulders rather than leaving it blank and putting the name below it.
    [/quote]

    It would entirely wrong if the name was on the shoulders, Mark. She’s just wearing it back because it’s probably way bigger on her than it would be on a guy.

    Here’s from the 1984 All-Star Game. The name is on the white.[/quote]

    WTF? My link is gone, and my HTML seems to be retarded today. Here’s Rod Langway’s 1984 Wales Conference jersey. Note the name placement.[/quote]

    Is that left drop-shadow a rarity only used currently by the Rangers?

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”332547″]
    Is that left drop-shadow a rarity only used currently by the Rangers?[/quote]

    In the NHL, yes. Only the Rangers employ that now.

  • Kevin | June 3, 2009 at 9:44 am |

    Cliff Floyd came out to the Sanford & son theme because its one of the best TV themes ever.

  • Traxel | June 3, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”332536″]The looping story brings me back. In Little League we always got stirrups but no sanitaries, meaning my white gym socks never went well with the stirrups. My brother and I took a liking to Jim Thome’s high socks with no white showing. My 12 year old team was yellow, so I decided to create makeshift one color look and basically tied the open portion of the stirrup around my foot in my cleats. It wasn’t very comfortable, but the look was worth it. I can say with almost 100% certainty I was the only kid in my league with solid socks.[/quote]
    This stuff takes me back. It was the late 70s and at times all you could get at K Mart (our only option at the time) was sanitaries with stripes. So while we wanted our stirrups as high as possible in little league to match the MLB style of the time (they never ordered them long enough) so only a verticle stripe would show on the side, invaribly different color sanitary sock stripes would end up showing. Also, always a nice look when the elastic in the sanitary was out and it would fall down exposing bare leg in the stirrup hole. Fun stuff in a small town!

  • We Got Ns In The Backfield | June 3, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Brian Anderson is right – the aesthetics are much more important than comfort!

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    ehhh… i think we all have a “brain fart” from time to time, and thats all that was.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”332519″]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....

    Full article here:
    http://community.pos...

    i love emptynetters! my second favorite blog!

  • Matt Brosseau | June 3, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”332525″]

    Matt,
    Where do you hail from?[/quote]

    Jersey, by way of Bensonhurst and Staten Island.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”332552″][quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    ehhh… i think we all have a “brain fart” from time to time, and thats all that was.[/quote]
    What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.

  • Tim F. | June 3, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    I used to “loop” my too-long stirrups, although I think that term is a little off. It wasn’t actually looping so much as it was layering the base of the stirrup. Whatever you call it, it was uncomfortable.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”332540″][quote comment=”332519″]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....

    Full article here:
    http://community.pos...

    Dammit. Despite that being a replica jersey, that woman has good taste. Anyone have her digits? I’d be interested in her other hockey tastes. lol[/quote]
    Tonsil hockey, perhaps?

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”332555″][quote comment=”332552″][quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    ehhh… i think we all have a “brain fart” from time to time, and thats all that was.[/quote]
    What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]

    the us flag should always be displayed highest…

  • Mike Engle | June 3, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    Hey Powers, asleep at the wheel? Or stuck in the pillory?
    Found this, right up your alley.

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”332557″][quote comment=”332540″][quote comment=”332519″]A rare jersey spotted heading into Game 3 last night in Pittsburgh:

    http://farm3.static....

    Full article here:
    http://community.pos...

    Dammit. Despite that being a replica jersey, that woman has good taste. Anyone have her digits? I’d be interested in her other hockey tastes. lol[/quote]
    Tonsil hockey, perhaps?[/quote]

    I’m not making that jump until she turns around. LOL

  • Matt Brosseau | June 3, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”332557″]

    Dammit. Despite that being a replica jersey, that woman has good taste. Anyone have her digits? I’d be interested in her other hockey tastes. lol[/quote]
    Tonsil hockey, perhaps?[/quote]

    I’d give her two minutes for holding!

    (be here all week, tip waitress, try veal)

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”332549″]Cliff Floyd came out to the Sanford & son theme because its one of the best TV themes ever.[/quote]
    There’s a band call Johnny Socko that was based out of Bloomington, IN in the early 90s. They would play the S&S theme and tear the roof off the motha, sucka!

  • Brian Davis | June 3, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    One time I was playing first base and a guy caught my stirrup and ripped it. So before the next game I took one of my dad’s blue dress socks and cut out the heel and toe to make my own homemade stirrup.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”332559″]Hey Powers, asleep at the wheel? Or stuck in the pillory?
    Found this, right up your alley.[/quote]

    Nice catch, Mike!

    Pietrus has always been a JB guy, back to his GS days:

    http://www.fearthebe...

    http://cache.daylife...

    He often wears Hyperdunks, which are direct descendants of the Kobe line, yet not part of the signature series.

    My attention to the Finals has waned a bit considering the MVPuppets commmercials will inevitably come to an end.

  • TC Lofton | June 3, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”332555″][quote comment=”332552″][quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    ehhh… i think we all have a “brain fart” from time to time, and thats all that was.[/quote]
    What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]

    JTH, do you mean when you have multiple national flags on a flagpole, or when the US flag is elevated above others in a lineup?

    If you mean the former, then I have to agree… I run commencement for a small University in Indiana, and more than once I have been asked to do that for an outdoor ceremony… I don’t think people realize that it takes away the significance of national sovereignty for the lower flag…

    And yeah, it usually comes from people “claiming” to be Irish. As the grandson of immigrants, that just makes me laugh. The “Dropkick” fratboy set will stop at no end to cheapen the tri-color, albeit unwittingly.

  • Eric | June 3, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    I have had a pretty decent history with stirrups. Between 10 and 12, I was on the A’s in Little League. My dad had an old pair of green stirrups from his softball days the 70’s that he gave me. I liked the low look, so I used to loop them once.

    In was in high school in the late ’90’s and we were given the hand me downs from the early ’80’s. Gold jerseys, white pants with elastic waste band and ridiculously thick stripping. We also had the crap ribbon stirrups, but our coach had two pairs of 4″ stirrups, so I got to wear those along with gold sanitaries!

    I also played at a small college for a season and our coach required stirrups and sanitaries. He usually got the plain black stirrups, but the one year I played, he got the Milwaukee Braves-style stripped stirrups. We may have been terrible, but we definitely had the best hosiery of any team that we played!

  • Perry | June 3, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”332558″][quote comment=”332555″][quote comment=”332552″][quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    ehhh… i think we all have a “brain fart” from time to time, and thats all that was.[/quote]
    What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]

    the us flag should always be displayed highest…[/quote]

    I think what’s stupid is giving a shit what flag is displayed highest, especially in the context of indicating seeding in a baseball tournament.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”332563″]One time I was playing first base and a guy caught my stirrup and ripped it. So before the next game I took one of my dad’s blue dress socks and cut out the heel and toe to make my own homemade stirrup.[/quote]

    “F#$@ this. I’m gonna make my own motherf#$@ing stirrups”.

  • TC Lofton | June 3, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”332558″][quote comment=”332555″][quote comment=”332552″][quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    ehhh… i think we all have a “brain fart” from time to time, and thats all that was.[/quote]
    What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]

    the us flag should always be displayed highest…[/quote]

    Ry CO, I THINK he was indicating that they shouldn’t share a flagpole, which is correct. But yeah, when in review, The Stars and Stripes should always be elevated.

  • John C. | June 3, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    As far as the Carr question is concerned, it’s his actual wedding ring, or at least was his actual wedding ring at the time (not sure if he’s changed his habits since). I remember watching a game in 2002 where whoever was doing color commentary talked about it for five minutes or so. There may have even been a small interview portion with Carr himself about it too.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”332569″][quote comment=”332558″][quote comment=”332555″][quote comment=”332552″][quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    ehhh… i think we all have a “brain fart” from time to time, and thats all that was.[/quote]
    What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]

    the us flag should always be displayed highest…[/quote]

    Ry CO, I THINK he was indicating that they shouldn’t share a flagpole, which is correct. But yeah, when in review, The Stars and Stripes should always be elevated.[/quote]

    oh! gotcha…

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”332565″]
    JTH, do you mean when you have multiple national flags on a flagpole, or when the US flag is elevated above others in a lineup?[/quote]
    Both. Because neither is acceptable, unless we’re at war with Canada or something. (Are we?)

    When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

    http://www.law.corne...

  • Beardface | June 3, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”332555″]What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]
    Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.

    Sorry if you’re offended that people put the US first while in the US. If you can’t understand why the US flag should always be held in a higher regard than all others while on US soil, I can’t help ya.

    And when you say we can bet on what the IKEA manager said… I sure as hell hope he laughed at you and told you to piss off.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”332554″][quote comment=”332525″]

    Matt,
    Where do you hail from?[/quote]

    Jersey, by way of Bensonhurst and Staten Island.[/quote]

    Wagner College Alum.
    Had alot of fun in Bay Ridge on 3rd Avenue.
    Ex GF was a Kearney girl from Dyker.
    Squares from L and B’s/Spumoni Gardens was always a treat.
    Where in Jersey…I live in NY, exit 5 on the PIP.

  • Matt Brosseau | June 3, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”332574″]
    Wagner College Alum.
    Had alot of fun in Bay Ridge on 3rd Avenue.
    Ex GF was a Kearney girl from Dyker.
    Squares from L and B’s/Spumoni Gardens was always a treat.
    Where in Jersey…I live in NY, exit 5 on the PIP.[/quote]

    Hell yeah, L&B Sicilian FTW. I almost literally grew up on it as my dad would bring home a Sicilian pie on his way home from work (my mom was not a cooking mom, but she got her Masters at Wagner in the early 70s).

    I live along Route 22 in Jersey…exit 13A on the Turnpike. That’s a nice area up where you are…my wife and I go out to dinner in Nyack from time to time, great town there.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”332575″][quote comment=”332574″]
    Wagner College Alum.
    Had alot of fun in Bay Ridge on 3rd Avenue.
    Ex GF was a Kearney girl from Dyker.
    Squares from L and B’s/Spumoni Gardens was always a treat.
    Where in Jersey…I live in NY, exit 5 on the PIP.[/quote]

    Hell yeah, L&B Sicilian FTW. I almost literally grew up on it as my dad would bring home a Sicilian pie on his way home from work (my mom was not a cooking mom, but she got her Masters at Wagner in the early 70s).

    I live along Route 22 in Jersey…exit 13A on the Turnpike. That’s a nice area up where you are…my wife and I go out to dinner in Nyack from time to time, great town there.[/quote]

    Nyack, next town up from us. My in-laws have owned a business there for 45 years! I’ll get your e-mail from Phil.

    My wedding reception was also at our favorite restaurant in Nyack.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    this is probably a stupid comment (typical for me. ha!)… but i always thought if i had to walk up to the plate to a song, it would be this:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”332573″]Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.[/quote]
    Oh, I’m sorry. I must have missed that part of the US Flag Code. Can you point out exactly where it says that?

  • Gus | June 3, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    I remember the stirrups. My buddy would always “pop” (the threading) them. To be able to stretch them as high as possible. Most of the kids in our little league did this. Only problem, after a few games, we had to rubber band them around our knees to keep them stretched.

    Is there a finer professional uniform than the Chargers throwbacks? Those white ones are damn fine.

    I almost jizzed in my pants when I saw them…

  • TC Lofton | June 3, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”332572″][quote comment=”332565″]
    JTH, do you mean when you have multiple national flags on a flagpole, or when the US flag is elevated above others in a lineup?[/quote]
    Both. Because neither is acceptable, unless we’re at war with Canada or something. (Are we?)

    When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

    http://www.law.corne...

    link broken?

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”332573″][quote comment=”332555″]What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]
    Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.

    Sorry if you’re offended that people put the US first while in the US. If you can’t understand why the US flag should always be held in a higher regard than all others while on US soil, I can’t help ya.

    And when you say we can bet on what the IKEA manager said… I sure as hell hope he laughed at you and told you to piss off.[/quote]

    “…the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags…”

    see? thats what i thought too…

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”332573″][quote comment=”332555″]What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]
    Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.

    Sorry if you’re offended that people put the US first while in the US. If you can’t understand why the US flag should always be held in a higher regard than all others while on US soil, I can’t help ya.

    And when you say we can bet on what the IKEA manager said… I sure as hell hope he laughed at you and told you to piss off.[/quote]

    There is actual flag etiquette that some may not know about. I used to work at a golf course where LPGA events were held, so we had to know how to fly the flags. In fact, I still have the document given to us by the general manager of the golf course.

    The rules we were taught/given are as follows:

    1. No flag, banner or pennant should be flown or displayed above, or be larger than, the host country’s flag when displayed on the same flag pole.

    2. When displaying flags on multiple poles, if there are:
    – (a) two flags, the host country will always occupy the right spot to signify being closest to the flagpole on the right (left if you’re looking at it).
    – (b) three flags, the host country will always occupy the center flagpole and all flags are to be displayed at the same height.
    – (c) multiple flag poles, all poles will be the same height, and all flags will be displayed at the same height with the host country’s flag on the extreme right.

    3. When two flags are crossed on display, the host country’s flag must always hang on the right for display.

  • Matt Brosseau | June 3, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”332577″]this is probably a stupid comment (typical for me. ha!)… but i always thought if i had to walk up to the plate to a song, it would be this:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    GREAT pick Ry. Myself, I would choose the opening verse to “Bad Company” and drag it out so I got to the plate just as Paul Rodgers sings “that’s why they call me…BAD COMPANY”

    Alternatively, Phish’s “First Tube” or Led Zeppelin’s “Bron-Y-Aur Stomp”.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”332580″][quote comment=”332572″][quote comment=”332565″]
    JTH, do you mean when you have multiple national flags on a flagpole, or when the US flag is elevated above others in a lineup?[/quote]
    Both. Because neither is acceptable, unless we’re at war with Canada or something. (Are we?)

    When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

    http://www.law.corne...

    link broken?[/quote]
    How about this one?

  • TC Lofton | June 3, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    From the US flag code on Cornell’s site:

    (e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”332581″][quote comment=”332573″][quote comment=”332555″]What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]
    Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.

    Sorry if you’re offended that people put the US first while in the US. If you can’t understand why the US flag should always be held in a higher regard than all others while on US soil, I can’t help ya.

    And when you say we can bet on what the IKEA manager said… I sure as hell hope he laughed at you and told you to piss off.[/quote]

    “…the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags…”

    see? thats what i thought too…[/quote]
    Yeah. Because if Beardface posted it, it must be true.

  • TC Lofton | June 3, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”332584″][quote comment=”332580″][quote comment=”332572″][quote comment=”332565″]
    JTH, do you mean when you have multiple national flags on a flagpole, or when the US flag is elevated above others in a lineup?[/quote]
    Both. Because neither is acceptable, unless we’re at war with Canada or something. (Are we?)

    When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.

    http://www.law.corne...

    link broken?[/quote]
    How about this one?[/quote]

    Gotcha.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    see #10 for US flag with other flags from the us or its localities;

    see #11 for international flags with US flag

    [quote]10. The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.

    11. When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. The order of precedence for flags generally is National flags (US first, then others in alphabetical order in English), State (host state first, then others in the order of admission) and territories (Washington DC, Puerto Rico, etc.), Military (in order of establishment: Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard), then other.[/quote]

  • Squiddie | June 3, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”332582″]

    3. When two flags are crossed on display, the host country’s flag must always hang on the right for display.[/quote]

    This is the flag’s right and so your left when you face them.

  • Chris in Nashville | June 3, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    I always wanted to go to bat with this…

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”332589″][quote comment=”332582″]

    3. When two flags are crossed on display, the host country’s flag must always hang on the right for display.[/quote]

    This is the flag’s right and so your left when you face them.[/quote]

    I didn’t qualify each sentence with that, Squiddie, but yes, you’re right. If you’re looking at the flag, it will always be on the left.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”332585″]From the US flag code on Cornell’s site:

    (e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.[/quote]
    Yeah. This goes without saying. The country’s flag should have a position of prominence over the flags/pennants of cities, states, counties, clubs, etc.

    Paragraph (g) is the one you’re looking for.

  • Beardface | June 3, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”332588″]11… International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace… [/quote]
    Interesting…

    Didn’t know we were in a time of peace. You know, with the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan going on… Oh, I’m sorry, whats the new PC terminology that the new administration is trying to force us to use instead of war, it slipped my mind.

  • u2-horn | June 3, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    I’m pretty sure Paul was saying it was stupid that the flag banner was taken down.

    But I’m also pretty sure that it wasn’t actual flags that were displayed higher than the US flag, but it was some sort of banner that displayed the participants in a tournament, and they used small flag patches to denote each country. The US patch was not on top because they US was not the #1 seed.

    So it wasn’t flags on a pole being displayed improperly, it was simply a banner that had a bunch of “pictures” of flags on it.

    I don’t think any flag display protocol was actually breached.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    since we’re off on a major tangent anyway…

    constitutional amendment to ban flag burning?

    yes, no and why

  • TC Lofton | June 3, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”332592″][quote comment=”332585″]From the US flag code on Cornell’s site:

    (e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.[/quote]
    Yeah. This goes without saying. The country’s flag should have a position of prominence over the flags/pennants of cities, states, counties, clubs, etc.

    Paragraph (g) is the one you’re looking for.[/quote]

    Thanks for posting that… embarrassingly, I had read Legion flag etiquette, but not US Flag Code. I’ll have to remember this for future events.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”332586″][quote comment=”332581″][quote comment=”332573″][quote comment=”332555″]What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]
    Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.

    Sorry if you’re offended that people put the US first while in the US. If you can’t understand why the US flag should always be held in a higher regard than all others while on US soil, I can’t help ya.

    And when you say we can bet on what the IKEA manager said… I sure as hell hope he laughed at you and told you to piss off.[/quote]

    “…the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags…”

    see? thats what i thought too…[/quote]
    Yeah. Because if Beardface posted it, it must be true.[/quote]

    dude… beardface is a ‘canes fan, so it’s rare that i agree with him! lol (i kid b-face)

    it’s just what i always “thought”… i’m usually wrong, and i feel “big words” will be thrown around in the comments to follow… much to big for my pea-brain… so i will walk (sneak) away from this discussion totally! lol

  • Beardface | June 3, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”332595″]since we’re off on a major tangent anyway…

    constitutional amendment to ban flag burning?

    yes, no and why[/quote]
    No, freedom of expression. One of the major benefits of this country is that you can live here and voice your displeasure over the government itself without fear of being prosecuted and jailed for it. Flag burning is a way people voice their displeasure. I won’t ever do it, but I appreciate the fact that people can.

  • Matt Brosseau | June 3, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”332595″]since we’re off on a major tangent anyway…

    constitutional amendment to ban flag burning?

    yes, no and why[/quote]

    No. The flag is simply a symbol of the nation, and destroying symbols of nations or like groups is a longstanding method of protest that predates the establishment of America.

    Those who feel that burning the flag is problematic should consider the cases of Timothy McVeigh and Bill Ayers (to be partisan-neutral); if you remove valid forms of protest, protesters go on to larger forms of “protest.”

    And it seems to me like if America upholds flag burning as protected speech, we are collectively saying “You can destroy our symbols, but you cannot destroy our way of life.” And that’s really what needs to be made clear.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”332597″][quote comment=”332586″][quote comment=”332581″][quote comment=”332573″][quote comment=”332555″]What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]
    Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.

    Sorry if you’re offended that people put the US first while in the US. If you can’t understand why the US flag should always be held in a higher regard than all others while on US soil, I can’t help ya.

    And when you say we can bet on what the IKEA manager said… I sure as hell hope he laughed at you and told you to piss off.[/quote]

    “…the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags…”

    see? thats what i thought too…[/quote]
    Yeah. Because if Beardface posted it, it must be true.[/quote]

    dude… beardface is a ‘canes fan, so it’s rare that i agree with him! lol (i kid b-face)

    it’s just what i always “thought”… i’m usually wrong, and i feel “big words” will be thrown around in the comments to follow… much to big for my pea-brain… so i will walk (sneak) away from this discussion totally! lol[/quote]
    I’m done with this. I really had no idea that so many people were unaware of the flag code.

    Think of it this way, when you’ve gone to Penguins games, have you ever seen the Canadian flag displayed lower than our flag, even if the other team was US-based?

  • Robert in Dallas | June 3, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    I apologize if someone else already touched on this, but check out the thin-stirrups on the Washington softball team, which won the Women’s College World Series.

    http://i62.photobuck...

    As a fan of the long-but-not-stretched-thin stirrups, this is a sight for sore eyes. I didn’t realize that anyone wore them like this these days.

  • Beardface | June 3, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”332601″][/quote]
    I’m done with this. I really had no idea that so many people were unaware of the flag code.

    Think of it this way, when you’ve gone to Penguins games, have you ever seen the Canadian flag displayed lower than our flag, even if the other team was US-based?[/quote]
    Of course not… but the US flag should always be at the highest point possible. Otherwise, have them both at equal hight but the US flag on the left so that you’re prone to look at it first (out of habit because we read left to right).

  • Matt Brosseau | June 3, 2009 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”332602″]
    As a fan of the long-but-not-stretched-thin stirrups, this is a sight for sore eyes. I didn’t realize that anyone wore them like this these days.[/quote]

    This illustrates perfectly how much Uni Watchers are dedicated to the craft. Someone posts a photo of a group of women rolling around in the dirt with each other and the first thing that comes to us is “wow, cool stirrups.”

    Long live Uni Watch!

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”332601″][quote comment=”332597″][quote comment=”332586″][quote comment=”332581″][quote comment=”332573″][quote comment=”332555″]What exactly was Paul calling stupid? The way I read it was that the way the flags were being displayed was stupid. Maybe not. Whatever.

    Anyway, it drives me absolutely batshit when I see that type of flag display. Usually it’s the other way around, though. The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.

    I actually bitched to the manager at an IKEA one time when I saw that they had the Swedish flag below the American flag on a flagpole. You can probably guess what his response was.

    I see similar displays all the time at Irish bars, Italian restaurants, etc.[/quote]
    Umm… I’m sorry, but this is the United States, and last I checked, the United States was the run that ran everything. Therefore, the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags.

    Sorry if you’re offended that people put the US first while in the US. If you can’t understand why the US flag should always be held in a higher regard than all others while on US soil, I can’t help ya.

    And when you say we can bet on what the IKEA manager said… I sure as hell hope he laughed at you and told you to piss off.[/quote]

    “…the US flag should be higher up than all the others, whether that’s states, business flags, or other national flags…”

    see? thats what i thought too…[/quote]
    Yeah. Because if Beardface posted it, it must be true.[/quote]

    dude… beardface is a ‘canes fan, so it’s rare that i agree with him! lol (i kid b-face)

    it’s just what i always “thought”… i’m usually wrong, and i feel “big words” will be thrown around in the comments to follow… much to big for my pea-brain… so i will walk (sneak) away from this discussion totally! lol[/quote]
    I’m done with this. I really had no idea that so many people were unaware of the flag code.

    Think of it this way, when you’ve gone to Penguins games, have you ever seen the Canadian flag displayed lower than our flag, even if the other team was US-based?[/quote]

    oh no, you’re totally right. i just thought wrong, thats all. i think i’m used to seeing the flags at pnc park where the us flag is the highest, and the state and city flag are below it. good point about the melon arena flags! thanks

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 11:02 am |

    “mellon” arena. sorry… lol

  • TC Lofton | June 3, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=\”332601\”]
    I\’m done with this. I really had no idea that so many people were unaware of the flag code.

    Think of it this way, when you\’ve gone to Penguins games, have you ever seen the Canadian flag displayed lower than our flag, even if the other team was US-based?[/quote]

    Easy, hoss! If the worst thing that happens on the internets today is misinterpretation of flag code, we\’re doing ok.

    Now, for another question… help me settle a bet at the school I work for, UW. When our baseball team is wearing light gold jerseys, should white pants be allowed?

    ie: http://i137.photobuc...

    I hate the look, but we\’ve already got purple going as it is. Should they go to a different color of britches? If so, what?

  • ChrismM70 | June 3, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    A correction in the ticker:

    His name is Jeff SUPPAN, not Soupan.

  • Geen | June 3, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”332548″][quote comment=”332547″]
    Is that left drop-shadow a rarity only used currently by the Rangers?[/quote]

    In the NHL, yes. Only the Rangers employ that now.[/quote]

    I betcha Gerry Cosby made those unies for the ASG, too.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”332594″]I’m pretty sure Paul was saying it was stupid that the flag banner was taken down.

    But I’m also pretty sure that it wasn’t actual flags that were displayed higher than the US flag, but it was some sort of banner that displayed the participants in a tournament, and they used small flag patches to denote each country. The US patch was not on top because they US was not the #1 seed.

    So it wasn’t flags on a pole being displayed improperly, it was simply a banner that had a bunch of “pictures” of flags on it.

    I don’t think any flag display protocol was actually breached.[/quote]
    Wow. I guess I read that article all wrong. I saw this part and I took it to mean that they used the actual flags on a single flagpole to indicate the seeding.

    Veterans and other critics objected, saying it was insulting and a breach of protocol to display a Canadian flag on top of the American flag.

    That might just qualify as stupid.

    Anyway, fuck IKEA.

  • Geen | June 3, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”332555″]The flag of another country should NEVER be displayed at a different height than the US flag.
    [/quote]

    Ummm — watch the Olympics much?

  • jim | June 3, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    on the subject of Bearcats….here’s my favourite.
    http://www.westernwh...

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    [quote]fuck IKEA[/quote]

    check yer email…yer work one is full…i get depressed whenever i get a “failure” message :(

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”332613″][quote]fuck IKEA[/quote]

    check yer email…yer work one is full…i get depressed whenever i get a “failure” message :([/quote]
    Crap. I really wish the people I work with would stop sending me messages.

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”332599]Those who feel that burning the flag is problematic should consider the cases of Timothy McVeigh and Bill Ayers (to be partisan-neutral); if you remove valid forms of protest, protesters go on to larger forms of “protest.”[/quote]
    No, I can’t agree here. The McVeighs & Ayers of the world have their own rationalization of what is a valid protest.

    Removing or not removing the burning of an American flag as a so-called valid form of protest will not change their behavior or attitudes one iota.

  • Matt Brosseau | June 3, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”332616″]
    No, I can’t agree here. The McVeighs & Ayers of the world have their own rationalization of what is a valid protest.

    Removing or not removing the burning of an American flag as a so-called valid form of protest will not change their behavior or attitudes one iota.[/quote]

    Agreed. My point, if somewhat inartfully illustrated, was that if you take away relatively innocuous forms of protest, those who would have done the innocuous may instead go on to cause actual harm.

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”332582″]The rules we were taught/given are as follows:[quote]
    Teebz, thanks for posting: I remembered that there were some general rules for the “two flags” or “even number of flag scenarios”, but I couldn’t remember what they were.

    My Boy Scout days were long ago. ;-)

  • zach | June 3, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    (http://www.youtube.c...)

    This is how you should play when you are sick.
    From the 2006 5A Texas High School State Championship game.

  • Squiddie | June 3, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    Let’s change the topic to Trojans and protection. Have we already discussed these pads? They look a bit like the pads a batsman wears in cricket.

    The photos are from a 1951 story on USC football.

    USC practice pads

    From the back

    Look a bit like clown pants when the players are standing up

    On the practice field

  • JRJR | June 3, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”332595″]since we’re off on a major tangent anyway…

    constitutional amendment to ban flag burning?

    yes, no and why[/quote]

    No. If we aren’t going to ban the Confederate flag from flying I don’t see how we could ban flag burning. It’s sort of the ultimate free speech issue.

    Plus, what happens if there is a brush fir in a cemetery on Memorial Day?

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”332595″]since we’re off on a major tangent anyway…

    constitutional amendment to ban flag burning?

    yes, no and why[/quote]
    I want an amendment to change the national anthem to this (NSFW).

  • Geen | June 3, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    Now, the Binghamton Mets are onto something … a redux of the Mercury Mets????

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”332617″]
    Agreed. My point, if somewhat inartfully illustrated, was that if you take away relatively innocuous forms of protest, those who would have done the innocuous may instead go on to cause actual harm.[/quote]
    I guess-but my point is that no matter what you or I think is either “valid” and/or “innocuous”, people will make up their own minds as to the correct definition of those terms.

    Here in Chicago we have a local Catholic priest/wingnut supreme who is flying the US Flag upside down. His idea is that we as a society are in “peril” or “distress” because of gun violence.

    If tomorrow that was somehow made illegal, he’d still do it. The old tale of the boy who cried wolf hasn’t filtered thru his brain.

  • Craig D | June 3, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    This isnt a typical flag display…its a banner with flags printed on it to show the seedings. No different than using team logos, only countries have flags, not logos. Its not a slap in the face of the US. Other than not being the top seed.

  • Carl | June 3, 2009 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”332603″][quote comment=”332601″][/quote]
    I’m done with this. I really had no idea that so many people were unaware of the flag code.

    Think of it this way, when you’ve gone to Penguins games, have you ever seen the Canadian flag displayed lower than our flag, even if the other team was US-based?[/quote]
    Of course not… but the US flag should always be at the highest point possible. Otherwise, have them both at equal hight but the US flag on the left so that you’re prone to look at it first (out of habit because we read left to right).[/quote]

    Great point about arenas – here’s the Metrodome (crappy photo i know) but I’ve been there a zillion times and the US and Canadian flags are at equal elevation. The only truly appropriate place for nations’ flags at differing elevations is the Olympics. And that’s debatable, but a nice international gesture. It’s amazing how few people have even the littlest understanding of the flag code. Hence idiotic things like this and this.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”332604″][quote comment=”332602″]
    As a fan of the long-but-not-stretched-thin stirrups, this is a sight for sore eyes. I didn’t realize that anyone wore them like this these days.[/quote]

    This illustrates perfectly how much Uni Watchers are dedicated to the craft. Someone posts a photo of a group of women rolling around in the dirt with each other and the first thing that comes to us is “wow, cool stirrups.”

    Long live Uni Watch![/quote]

    Images such as the one posted above do nothing for me. And this anecdote will explain why.

    My sister played NCAA softball for two seasons before becoming disillusioned by the rapid loss of team chemistry.

    Why the lapse? Because the entire infield was dating each other and ended up breaking up.

    NTTATWWT

  • Jeff | June 3, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    NFL advertising change?
    http://www.chron.com...

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”332583″][quote comment=”332577″]this is probably a stupid comment (typical for me. ha!)… but i always thought if i had to walk up to the plate to a song, it would be this:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    GREAT pick Ry. Myself, I would choose the opening verse to “Bad Company” and drag it out so I got to the plate just as Paul Rodgers sings “that’s why they call me…BAD COMPANY”

    Alternatively, Phish’s “First Tube” or Led Zeppelin’s “Bron-Y-Aur Stomp”.[/quote]

    Stepping up to the plate with ab bat in hand with “Detachable Penis” by King Missile playing, would be ironic, no?

  • Mark Dancer | June 3, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    Here’s a short blurb on the US National Team uniforms for the World Cup Qualifier tonight:
    http://mnt-ussoccer....

  • Big Al | June 3, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”332576″]My wedding reception was also at our favorite restaurant in Nyack.[/quote]
    And longtime UniWatchers know that Mr. Powers really outkicked his coverage… ;)

    /Parkway Exit 150, Turnpike Exit 16W representing

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    Aerosmith: Back in the Saddle Again
    Stones: The Opening of Sympathy for the Devil
    Steppenwolf: Magic Carpet Ride
    Mystikal: Shake Yas A$#…”Watch Yourself, SHow me whatcha workin with”.

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”332598″][quote comment=”332595″]since we’re off on a major tangent anyway…

    constitutional amendment to ban flag burning?

    yes, no and why[/quote]
    No, freedom of expression. One of the major benefits of this country is that you can live here and voice your displeasure over the government itself without fear of being prosecuted and jailed for it. Flag burning is a way people voice their displeasure. I won’t ever do it, but I appreciate the fact that people can.[/quote]

    Amen. In college I leaned slightly left and got an A in argumentation class for defending one’s right to burn a flag. Now I lean slightly right but I stand by my argument. I won’t do it, but as long as they’re doing it on their own property, or as part of a safe protest on public property, that’s their right.

    I gotta say, this thread is a lot more civil than the discussion board for the original news story. Thanks UniWatchers, for having more class than the folks in my area.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”332632″]Aerosmith: Back in the Saddle Again
    Stones: The Opening of Sympathy for the Devil
    Steppenwolf: Magic Carpet Ride
    Mystikal: Shake Yas A$#…”Watch Yourself, SHow me whatcha workin with”.[/quote]

    i don’t wanna miss a thing

  • Iowa | June 3, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    Why hasn’t anyone placed the Cardinals Brendan Harris among the stirruped elite. I’m a Brewer fan and his recent look on Memorial day complete with the retro striped sock stirrup, 3/4 undershirt( which is highly underrated as well) and the high cuffed pants made him look like a ball player.

  • Quint | June 3, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”332625″][quote comment=”332533″]Also from Vince: some really stupid flag-based shenanigans at Canton.
    http://www.ohio.com/...

    I don’t like to use terms such as “stupid” (or get into political discussions here), but the only thing stupid about this is putting the American flag below any other national flag. This falls in the category of “what in the heck were you thinking?”[/quote]

    This isnt a typical flag display…its a banner with flags printed on it to show the seedings. No different than using team logos, only countries have flags, not logos. Its not a slap in the face of the US. Other than not being the top seed.[/quote]

    Exactly. It’s like complaining that at the Olympics, if the US is hosting and wins silver or bronze in an event, the US flag is lower than the gold medal winning flag during the medal ceremony.

  • Geen | June 3, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”332630″]Here’s a short blurb on the US National Team uniforms for the World Cup Qualifier tonight:
    http://mnt-ussoccer....

    Interesting.

    There was the time in Foxboro a few years ago against Barbados when a U.S. back named David Regis had the number 6 on the back and the number 9 on the front.

    Andres Cantor on Telemundo went batty. “How can the most technologically advanced country not be able to put the same number on the front and the back?” he asked.

  • Paddy F | June 3, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    Anybody else think that the concept of flag etiquette is completely lame? If nobody had ever drawn up a flag etiquette code do you think anybody would/should have cared. The only anti-patriotic acts I see here are the acts of those who enforce flag etiquette with an almost ironic fascist rule, completely disrespecting the real values of the flag. Don’t worship the idols, worship the ideals.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”332631″][quote comment=”332576″]My wedding reception was also at our favorite restaurant in Nyack.[/quote]
    And longtime UniWatchers know that Mr. Powers really outkicked his coverage… ;)

    /Parkway Exit 150, Turnpike Exit 16W representing[/quote]

    16W…Exit for the Meadowlands.
    When the Avalanche beat the Devils for the Stanley Cup a few years back, it turns out that their Playoff slogan was 16W…meaning 16 wins was all they needed…Too bad they got their 16th win at Exit 16W.

  • Sammy | June 3, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”332610″][quote comment=”332594″]I’m pretty sure Paul was saying it was stupid that the flag banner was taken down.

    But I’m also pretty sure that it wasn’t actual flags that were displayed higher than the US flag, but it was some sort of banner that displayed the participants in a tournament, and they used small flag patches to denote each country. The US patch was not on top because they US was not the #1 seed.

    So it wasn’t flags on a pole being displayed improperly, it was simply a banner that had a bunch of “pictures” of flags on it.

    I don’t think any flag display protocol was actually breached.[/quote]
    Wow. I guess I read that article all wrong. I saw this part and I took it to mean that they used the actual flags on a single flagpole to indicate the seeding.

    Veterans and other critics objected, saying it was insulting and a breach of protocol to display a Canadian flag on top of the American flag.

    [/quote]

    Agreed. I initially thought it was a major etiquette violation, until I realized that it was a banner, not actual flags. If they were just flag patches that are relatively small, I don’t see the big deal. Even though I appreciate the Flag Code, and all the rules about displaying them.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”332635″][quote comment=”332632″]Aerosmith: Back in the Saddle Again
    Stones: The Opening of Sympathy for the Devil
    Steppenwolf: Magic Carpet Ride
    Mystikal: Shake Yas A$#…”Watch Yourself, SHow me whatcha workin with”.[/quote]

    i don’t wanna miss a thing[/quote]

    It is official. Considered me afraid of you, Phillip.

  • Big Al | June 3, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”332639″]Anybody else think that the concept of flag etiquette is completely lame?[/quote]
    Not me.

  • Gretchen | June 3, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”332602″]I apologize if someone else already touched on this, but check out the thin-stirrups on the Washington softball team, which won the Women’s College World Series.

    http://i62.photobuck...

    As a fan of the long-but-not-stretched-thin stirrups, this is a sight for sore eyes. I didn’t realize that anyone wore them like this these days.[/quote]

    During that game last night, Florida had an interesting take on the “rally cap”. In their last up, the bench put their batting helmets on backwards. Sorry, I don’t have a photo to post.

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”332628″]NFL advertising change?
    http://www.chron.com... radio today had an interview with a marketing person: IIRC he said something like up to half of the teams may have advertising on their practice jerseys by July.

  • Jason Gomez | June 3, 2009 at 12:25 pm |

    As a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs, I hate the Chargers, BUT…I do really like the road throw backs, which sets an example of how the Chargers SHOULD have done their “new” uniforms.

  • Jason Gomez | June 3, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”332643″][quote comment=”332639″]Anybody else think that the concept of flag etiquette is completely lame?[/quote]
    Not me.[/quote]

    As a former military man, I agree in the U.S. the American Flag ALWAYS flies at the top. Its part of who we are as a country and as a people. Having pride in where we live.

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”332644″]…the bench put their batting helmets on backwards.[/quote]

    Safety First!

    :-))

  • Jason Gomez | June 3, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=\”332643\”][quote comment=\”332639\”]Anybody else think that the concept of flag etiquette is completely lame?[/quote]
    Not me.[/quote]

    As a former military man, I agree in the U.S. the American Flag ALWAYS flies at the top. Its part of who we are as a country and as a people. Having pride in where we live.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”332636″]Why hasn’t anyone placed the Cardinals Brendan Harris among the stirruped elite. I’m a Brewer fan and his recent look on Memorial day complete with the retro striped sock stirrup, 3/4 undershirt( which is highly underrated as well) and the high cuffed pants made him look like a ball player.[/quote]

    You’ll be very happy. Yesterday, I had a Smart Board installed in my classroom.

    Today, one of my students was asking about the silly socks that some ballplayers are wearing.

    Talk about opening a can of worms! Needless to say, an image of Mr. Ryan was one of the first to grace the screen of my favorite new toy.

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • Bourbon Soaked Idiot | June 3, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”332649″][quote comment=\”332643\”][quote comment=\”332639\”]Anybody else think that the concept of flag etiquette is completely lame?[/quote]
    Not me.[/quote]

    As a former military man, I agree in the U.S. the American Flag ALWAYS flies at the top. Its part of who we are as a country and as a people. Having pride in where we live.[/quote]

    Lighten up, Francis.

  • Fight | June 3, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”332590″]I always wanted to go to bat with this…

    http://www.youtube.c...

    i would choose this: http://www.youtube.c...

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”332627″]
    Why the lapse? Because the entire infield was dating each other and ended up breaking up.

    NTTATWWT[/quote]Google was my friend for this acronym. I guess I would have written NttaWwt.

    :-))

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”332646″]As a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs, I hate the Chargers, BUT…I do really like the road throw backs, which sets an example of how the Chargers SHOULD have done their “new” uniforms.[/quote]

    After I marvelled over how nice the throwbacks look, my next thought was, good thing they didn’t have a receiver’s number on the jersey, since the mannequin had no hands…

  • Squiddie | June 3, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    Manchester United has announced a new shirt sponsor. After 2010 you ManU fans will be advertising Aon.

    Soccernet story here.

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”332639″]Don’t worship the idols, worship the ideals.[/quote]

    Didn’t realize there was an extra charge to do both.

  • chance michaels | June 3, 2009 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”332649″][quote comment=\”332643\”][quote comment=\”332639\”]Anybody else think that the concept of flag etiquette is completely lame?[/quote]
    Not me.[/quote]

    As a former military man, I agree in the U.S. the American Flag ALWAYS flies at the top.[/quote]

    Even, as mentioned, on the Olympic podium? When the US doesn’t win the event?

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”332653″][quote comment=”332627″]
    Why the lapse? Because the entire infield was dating each other and ended up breaking up.

    NTTATWWT[/quote]Google was my friend for this acronym. I guess I would have written NttaWwt.

    :-))[/quote]

    How about this for an acronym…don’t be a PITA!
    JK!

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”332658″]How about this for an acronym…don’t be a PITA!
    JK![/quote]

    Wait, that’s not from Seinfeld.

    :-)

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    Fine…no acronym, but a good line:

    “Why’d you keep making the Stops?”

    “They kept ringin’ the bell!”

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”332646″]…which sets an example of how the Chargers SHOULD have done their “new” uniforms.[/quote]

    Colts, too. Somehow they managed to get the shoulder stripes past the half-way point. See, not too hard, is it?

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”332660″]Fine…no acronym, but a good line:

    “Why’d you keep making the Stops?”

    “They kept ringin’ the bell!”[/quote]

    http://www.interleav...

  • concealed78 | June 3, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    If I was a relief pitcher or a closer, my intro song would be The Band’s “The Weight”.

  • Jeff | June 3, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    When I played in the mid-’70s, we went with the high stirrups and rolled them up into the bottom of our pant legs to keep them high.

    The socks and stirrups went on first, then the pants, so you could set the bottom of the pant leg roughly where you wanted it. Then you pulled the top of the stirrup back down over the inside-out pant leg. When you pulled up your pants, your high stirrups looked perfect.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”332662″]If I was a relief pitcher or a closer, my intro song would be The Band’s “The Weight”.[/quote]

    The White Stripes 7 Nation Army would be good too!

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”332660″]Fine…no acronym, but a good line:

    Why’d You keep making the Stops?”

    “They kept ringin’ the bell!”[/quote]

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”332665″][quote comment=”332662″]If I was a relief pitcher or a closer, my intro song would be The Band’s “The Weight”.[/quote]

    The White Stripes 7 Nation Army would be good too![/quote]
    On a related note, I think the first minute or so of this would be a great way for a team to take the field after a rain delay.

    Or this, of course.

  • Skycat | June 3, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    Since so much of UW is devoted to the discussion of stirrups, I decided to check my Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary (I have both the tenth and eleventh editions) and was surprised to discover that what we know as a stirrup is not listed as one of the definitions. You can look it up! I wonder if the competing dictionaries are as remiss. (I’m referring to print dictionaries now.)

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    WR’s can breathe easier:
    http://news.yahoo.co...
    Of course the NFL will have to find another “illegal hit cash cow”.

    Too bad he & Lynch never actually got to play together, the league could just put a cash register right on the Pats sideline.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    Hey, remember the Brewers cow from yesterday? I we’ve finally got someone who has more pinstripes than he does.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 1:21 pm |

    Uh, missing word: should be “I think we’ve finally got…”

  • Robert in Dallas | June 3, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”332636″]3/4 undershirt( which is highly underrated as well)[/quote]

    Agreed agreed agreed. To me, a 3/4 undershirt is damn near as important to looking like a real ballplayer as stirrups. And I don’t care whether it is 30 degrees or 110 degrees, you wear the same 3/4 sleeve shirt.

  • Namhob | June 3, 2009 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”332642″][quote comment=”332635″][quote comment=”332632″]Aerosmith: Back in the Saddle Again
    Stones: The Opening of Sympathy for the Devil
    Steppenwolf: Magic Carpet Ride
    Mystikal: Shake Yas A$#…”Watch Yourself, SHow me whatcha workin with”.[/quote]

    i don’t wanna miss a thing[/quote]

    It is official. Considered me afraid of you, Phillip.[/quote]
    Is it me, or do these pictures look like they were taken using a telephoto lens…maybe from a vehicle parked nearby…by someone dressed inconspiculously?

  • rpm | June 3, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”332514″]We used to “Loop” our stirrups in high school. Our coaches always ordered 9″ stirrups and most of us preferred the 4″ variety so what we did is pulled the stirrups down, twisted them and put the slack back around our foot, giving us the look we wanted.[/quote]

    damn straight brotha, i did the same thing! exactly why the oriole stirrups are being ordered for the “club” in 5″. screw that george hendrick shit. clearly the higher stirrup lengths crept, the more useless they became, which is why we no longer have stirrups.

  • rpm | June 3, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”332522″]I was one of those who used the loop method.

    I have ALWAYS detested the thin stirrup, as well as the 9 inch, so I would bring the stirrup down as low as I could to provide slack for the loop.
    I would then go twice around my foot to keep the stirrup low.

    As I was a catcher, it would become a bit uncomfortable after a while, but it was done in the name of uni-aesthetics…just one more example of my inevitable collision with UW![/quote]
    YES!!!! the stirrup itself was uncomfortable, let alone when we wrapped them and cut off all circulation. we are the few the proud the wrapines.

  • Dan Merker | June 3, 2009 at 1:37 pm |

    A few thoughts that the walk-up songs link brought to mind:
    – if Corey Hart doesn’t walk up to “Sunglasses at Night”, he has no sense of humor. If he has no sense of humor, they should play it whenever he’s on the road just to mess with him.
    – Mark Teahen of the Royals has a few peculiar walk-up songs. I’ve heard him walk up to one of Jose Lima’s fast-tempo salsa-type songs — it’s funny to hear that music when the player’s not hispanic. Also, and I’ve only heard it once this year, he walked up to the “McGruber” theme song from SNL. I nearly did a spit-take with my beer when I heard that. Been to several games in the meantime, but haven’t heard it again.

  • Mike Engle | June 3, 2009 at 1:38 pm |

    Uniform number cameo here in SI.com’s Randy Johnson gallery.
    Baseball Almanac lists him mostly as #51, with a brief exception in Seattle (#34, for Nolan Ryan, who suggested a technique tweak that revived his career) and in New York (Bernie Williams was #51 for Puerto Rico, so The Big Unit took #41, his age at the time). However, this picture shows him pitching for the Expos in jersey number #_6.
    Anybody have better pictures of Randy’s rare jersey number?

  • Dan Merker | June 3, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”332672″][quote comment=”332636″]3/4 undershirt( which is highly underrated as well)[/quote]

    Agreed agreed agreed. To me, a 3/4 undershirt is damn near as important to looking like a real ballplayer as stirrups. And I don’t care whether it is 30 degrees or 110 degrees, you wear the same 3/4 sleeve shirt.[/quote]
    +1, though the trend of vests partially helped kill these, IMO.

  • rpm | June 3, 2009 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”332529″][quote comment=”332522″]I was one of those who used the loop method.

    I have ALWAYS detested the thin stirrup, as well as the 9 inch, so I would bring the stirrup down as low as I could to provide slack for the loop.
    I would then go twice around my foot to keep the stirrup low.

    As I was a catcher, it would become a bit uncomfortable after a while, but it was done in the name of uni-aesthetics…just one more example of my inevitable collision with UW![/quote]

    so, like this, then?

    [quote comment=”332526″]HTML fail.[/quote]

    and fixed ;)[/quote]
    those god damn 3/4 cleets with the ginormous tongues look stupid no matter what the stirrup length. i have been looking for weeks here in chitown for a decent pair of size 13 low cuts. the ones i have been wearing for 22 years finally blew out. anybody out there have an extra pair of 13’s that are at least 20 years old?

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”332666″]”They kept ringin’ the bell!”[/quote]

    Apropos of this blog: “Its just so much fluff.

    :-)))

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”332673″][quote comment=”332642″][quote comment=”332635″][quote comment=”332632″]Aerosmith: Back in the Saddle Again
    Stones: The Opening of Sympathy for the Devil
    Steppenwolf: Magic Carpet Ride
    Mystikal: Shake Yas A$#…”Watch Yourself, SHow me whatcha workin with”.[/quote]

    i don’t wanna miss a thing[/quote]

    It is official. Considered me afraid of you, Phillip.[/quote]
    Is it me, or do these pictures look like they were taken using a telephoto lens…maybe from a vehicle parked nearby…by someone dressed inconspiculously?[/quote]

    dressed in an “i’m calling it shea” shirt???

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    JTH, are you a Quint Cities native or expert in some way? Just a passing knowledge here: I’ve gotten to know two different natives in Chicago: I introduced them to each other, and then suffered thru a long night of QC trivia. :-)

    BTW, regarding Anahiem: what I don’t get about that outfield decor is the area (and I guess its part of the batter’s eye) that’s covered by astroturf, yet has some flagpoles sticking up at random points.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”332607″][quote comment=\”332601\”]
    I\’m done with this. I really had no idea that so many people were unaware of the flag code.

    Think of it this way, when you\’ve gone to Penguins games, have you ever seen the Canadian flag displayed lower than our flag, even if the other team was US-based?[/quote]

    Easy, hoss! If the worst thing that happens on the internets today is misinterpretation of flag code, we\’re doing ok.

    Now, for another question… help me settle a bet at the school I work for, UW. When our baseball team is wearing light gold jerseys, should white pants be allowed?

    ie: http://i137.photobuc...

    I hate the look, but we\’ve already got purple going as it is. Should they go to a different color of britches? If so, what?[/quote]
    That gold is light enough that you should be able to get away with matching trousers, especially if they had purple and white stripes down the side to match the sleeve/collar stripes.

  • Piping Mike | June 3, 2009 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”332550″][quote comment=”332536″]The looping story brings me back. In Little League we always got stirrups but no sanitaries, meaning my white gym socks never went well with the stirrups. My brother and I took a liking to Jim Thome’s high socks with no white showing. My 12 year old team was yellow, so I decided to create makeshift one color look and basically tied the open portion of the stirrup around my foot in my cleats. It wasn’t very comfortable, but the look was worth it. I can say with almost 100% certainty I was the only kid in my league with solid socks.[/quote]
    This stuff takes me back. It was the late 70s and at times all you could get at K Mart (our only option at the time) was sanitaries with stripes. So while we wanted our stirrups as high as possible in little league to match the MLB style of the time (they never ordered them long enough) so only a verticle stripe would show on the side, invaribly different color sanitary sock stripes would end up showing. Also, always a nice look when the elastic in the sanitary was out and it would fall down exposing bare leg in the stirrup hole. Fun stuff in a small town![/quote]

    I hate to break it to you, but those things were not sanitaries. You are talking about normal cotton tube/crew socks with stripes. Sanitaries are a very differnt thing: very thin, knee length, solid color – usually white.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”332679″][quote comment=”332529″][quote comment=”332522″]I was one of those who used the loop method.

    I have ALWAYS detested the thin stirrup, as well as the 9 inch, so I would bring the stirrup down as low as I could to provide slack for the loop.
    I would then go twice around my foot to keep the stirrup low.

    As I was a catcher, it would become a bit uncomfortable after a while, but it was done in the name of uni-aesthetics…just one more example of my inevitable collision with UW![/quote]

    so, like this, then?

    [quote comment=”332526″]HTML fail.[/quote]

    and fixed ;)[/quote]
    those god damn 3/4 cleets with the ginormous tongues look stupid no matter what the stirrup length. i have been looking for weeks here in chitown for a decent pair of size 13 low cuts. the ones i have been wearing for 22 years finally blew out. anybody out there have an extra pair of 13’s that are at least 20 years old?[/quote]

    Try Niketown Chicago.
    669 N Michigan Ave
    Chicago, IL 60611
    (312) 642-6363

    If not, go to any Foot Locker or Champs and order them. Print this god damn page and bring it to the shop:

    http://www.footlocke...

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote]That gold is light enough that you should be able to get away with matching trousers, especially if they had purple and white stripes down the side to match the sleeve/collar stripes.[/quote]

    james, i forgot to tell you

    the [sarcasm] tags are broke again

  • jude | June 3, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”332593″][quote comment=”332588″]11… International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace… [/quote]
    Interesting…

    Oh, I’m sorry, whats the new PC terminology that the new administration is trying to force us to use instead of war, it slipped my mind.[/quote]

    Overseas contingency operation

    Not trying to get political, just trying to answer a fellow Uni Watcher’s question. – jude

  • The Hemogoblin | June 3, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    Paul,

    It’s “Suppan”, not “Soupan”.

  • Robert in Dallas | June 3, 2009 at 2:04 pm |

    With as much money as the University of Texas has, why is its baseball team buying its hats and jerseys from the clearance rack at a truck stop?

    http://sportsillustr...

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”332683″]JTH, are you a Quint Cities native or expert in some way?[/quote]
    Nope, but I spent more time at the Alcoa plant in Bettendorf than I care to remember.

  • rpm | June 3, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    phill’s walk up song, but i bet he likes this version better because of the broads.

  • Wollen1 | June 3, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    Re: the Canton flag issue, I must say I side with the angry veterans. Having a hierarchy of flags is a strange way to present seeding in an international tournament. It also breaks major protocol regarding flag display. No nation’s flag should be displayed above the stars and stripes inside the U.S..

    An’ if y’all don’t like it, then move yer asses to France! (sarcasm)

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”332687″][quote]That gold is light enough that you should be able to get away with matching trousers, especially if they had purple and white stripes down the side to match the sleeve/collar stripes.[/quote]

    james, i forgot to tell you

    the [sarcasm] tags are broke again[/quote]
    I don’t give a damn. I want, nay I DEMAND, to see an all-gold (preferably lamé) baseball uniform!

  • Piping Mike | June 3, 2009 at 2:06 pm |

    I also used the loop method at various times in my playing career. As the no opening look came into vogue (early 90s) I even looped enough to eliminate the opening all together. The back of the opening would be at the bottom of my heel. It was a little uncomfortable, but you got used to it.

    Ironically when I played in college we had the soccer socks. It was essentially the same look I used the year before, but I was disappointed. It felt like cheating because an important element of the uniform was missing.

  • Big Al | June 3, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”332686″]If not, go to any Foot Locker or Champs and order them. Print this god damn page and bring it to the shop:

    http://www.footlocke...
    The Foot Locker and Champs websites are both the same as the Eastbay catalog — all those entities are owned (or used to be owned) by Kinney. I highly recommend Eastbay — while you will pay for shipping, dealing with their representatives and customer service is an infinitely better experience than what you’re going to get from the snot-nosed punks and other derelicts in a Foot Locker or Champs store. And you won’t have to block out the incessantly loud music.

    /spent a summer working at Champs and, after my fourth week, was asked to go into the management program, you know, to supplement my degree in Mathematics and Economics

  • Ed | June 3, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    Help: This is my first uni watch entry…I coach a high school baseball team. Our colors are black and vegas gold. Our hats are white crown, black C with Gold shadow, and a black bill. i am thinking about getting new hats possibly similar to Vanderbilts hats.
    Does anyone have any suggestions as to uniforms? Not a huge fan of Vegas Gold, but that is what I was dealt.
    This is my second year and in as much time all players are wearing 4″ stirrups with pants at the knees (and I am sick and tired of players bitching that they want to wear “pro style” clemson pants). We currently have a vegas gold mesh jersey with white pants and a majestic black jersey with grey pants.
    Thanks

  • Big Al | June 3, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”332691″]Nope, but I spent more time at the Alcoa plant in Bettendorf than I care to remember.[/quote]
    I loved your Fantastic Finishes.

  • Diggerjohn | June 3, 2009 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”332532″]I think the more important point of the flag item in the ticker is how is Canada a first seed over the US in a football tournament?[/quote]
    The “American” Football code was actually invented in Canada, at McGill U. in Montreal. Basketball and Volleyball were both invented by Dr. James Naismith, a Canadian. You guys didn’t create everything you know.

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”332691″][quote comment=”332683″]
    Nope, but I spent more time at the Alcoa plant in Bettendorf than I care to remember.[/quote]
    I think that qualifies you as a QC expert.

    At least for the purposes of this board.

    :-)

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”332698″][quote comment=”332691″]Nope, but I spent more time at the Alcoa plant in Bettendorf than I care to remember.[/quote]
    I loved your Fantastic Finishes.[/quote]

    With Harry Kalas narrating them! I remember those – NBC showed them at every 2-minute warning, right?

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”332692″]phill’s walk up song, but i bet he likes this version better because of the broads.[/quote]

    I have NEVER heard that before…that is AWESOME.
    Totally serious…cleverly written songs such as that, great baseball unis, and an overall way of life leads me to believe that I was born at the wrong time.

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”332701″]With Harry Kalas narrating them! I remember those – NBC showed them at every 2-minute warning, right?[/quote]
    Wasn’t that IBM-sponsored?

  • pacmanisathug | June 3, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    the Worst – New Boise State Football uniforms

    http://media.cnbc.co...

  • Ricko | June 3, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”332696″][quote comment=”332686″]If not, go to any Foot Locker or Champs and order them. Print this god damn page and bring it to the shop:

    http://www.footlocke...
    The Foot Locker and Champs websites are both the same as the Eastbay catalog — all those entities are owned (or used to be owned) by Kinney. I highly recommend Eastbay — while you will pay for shipping, dealing with their representatives and customer service is an infinitely better experience than what you’re going to get from the snot-nosed punks and other derelicts in a Foot Locker or Champs store. And you won’t have to block out the incessantly loud music.

    /spent a summer working at Champs and, after my fourth week, was asked to go into the management program, you know, to supplement my degree in Mathematics and Economics[/quote]

    Agreed. Have bought lots of stuff from eastbay. Fast, great about exchanges, excellent product selection, reasonable prices, user friendly website and, if you buy even once, you get buried in their great catalogs for a year or so.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”332697″]Help: This is my first uni watch entry…I coach a high school baseball team. Our colors are black and vegas gold. Our hats are white crown, black C with Gold shadow, and a black bill. i am thinking about getting new hats possibly similar to Vanderbilts hats.
    Does anyone have any suggestions as to uniforms? Not a huge fan of Vegas Gold, but that is what I was dealt.
    This is my second year and in as much time all players are wearing 4″ stirrups with pants at the knees (and I am sick and tired of players bitching that they want to wear “pro style” clemson pants). We currently have a vegas gold mesh jersey with white pants and a majestic black jersey with grey pants.
    Thanks[/quote]
    See comment #177. While we’re at it, do you need a suggestion as to what song to use as you take the field?

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”332696″][quote comment=”332686″]If not, go to any Foot Locker or Champs and order them. Print this god damn page and bring it to the shop:

    http://www.footlocke...
    The Foot Locker and Champs websites are both the same as the Eastbay catalog — all those entities are owned (or used to be owned) by Kinney. I highly recommend Eastbay — while you will pay for shipping, dealing with their representatives and customer service is an infinitely better experience than what you’re going to get from the snot-nosed punks and other derelicts in a Foot Locker or Champs store. And you won’t have to block out the incessantly loud music.

    /spent a summer working at Champs and, after my fourth week, was asked to go into the management program, you know, to supplement my degree in Mathematics and Economics[/quote]

    Eliminate all of their confusion, thus chances for them to make an error.

    The Venator company owns Eastbay, Foot Locker, Champs, Footaction and has a hand in the espnshop.

    According to policy, they are supposed to have in stock everything on the websites.

    If you walk in with a printout of the item complete with an item number, they will do an in-store catalogue order.

    They will get on the phone with their 800 line and order the item. You can pay right then and there and have it shipped wherever you want free of charge.

    Once a quarter, they have a Friends and Family sale where they have everything at a 30% discount. You can ask at the register for a coupon and then either buy in-store or order via the catalogue.

    Great thing.

  • Beardface | June 3, 2009 at 2:22 pm |

    Teebz’ batting song
    Paul’s batting song
    Phil’s batting song

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”332703″][quote comment=”332701″]With Harry Kalas narrating them! I remember those – NBC showed them at every 2-minute warning, right?[/quote]
    Wasn’t that IBM-sponsored?[/quote]

    No, as previouly stated, it was Alcoa (at least originally). IIRC, the IBM segment was “You Make The Call”

  • Ed | June 3, 2009 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”332706″][quote comment=”332697″]Help: This is my first uni watch entry…I coach a high school baseball team. Our colors are black and vegas gold. Our hats are white crown, black C with Gold shadow, and a black bill. i am thinking about getting new hats possibly similar to Vanderbilts hats.
    Does anyone have any suggestions as to uniforms? Not a huge fan of Vegas Gold, but that is what I was dealt.
    This is my second year and in as much time all players are wearing 4″ stirrups with pants at the knees (and I am sick and tired of players bitching that they want to wear “pro style” clemson pants). We currently have a vegas gold mesh jersey with white pants and a majestic black jersey with grey pants.
    Thanks[/quote]
    See comment #177. While we’re at it, do you need a suggestion as to what song to use as you take the field?[/quote]

    Haha, actually the former coach had an all vegas gold uniform with Clemson style pants. the hat was solid Vegas gold with a black C…all I can say is GROSS.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”332666″][quote comment=”332660″]Fine…no acronym, but a good line:

    Why’d You keep making the Stops?”

    “They kept ringin’ the bell!”[/quote][/quote]

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Big Al | June 3, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”332703″][quote comment=”332701″]With Harry Kalas narrating them! I remember those – NBC showed them at every 2-minute warning, right?[/quote]
    Wasn’t that IBM-sponsored?[/quote]
    I believe IBM sponsored “You Make the Call.”

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”332711″][quote comment=”332666″][quote comment=”332660″]Fine…no acronym, but a good line:

    Why’d You keep making the Stops?”

    “They kept ringin’ the bell!”[/quote][/quote]

    http://www.youtube.c...

    What can I say, Matt. I’m not proud that I knew that off the top of my head or that I even took the time to fix it.

  • Fight | June 3, 2009 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”332708″]Teebz’ batting song
    Paul’s batting song
    Phil’s batting song[/quote]
    Beardface, I fully expected this to be Paul’s song: http://www.pp2g.tv/v...

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”332703″][quote comment=”332701″]With Harry Kalas narrating them! I remember those – NBC showed them at every 2-minute warning, right?[/quote]
    Wasn’t that IBM-sponsored?[/quote]

    Nope, I can hear Harry’s voice still: “Alcoa presents…Fantastic Finishes!” followed by the year of the play then the description. I tried looking on YouTube but got distracted watching old game clips from the 70s. I miss Curt Gowdy and Pat Summerall!

  • rpm | June 3, 2009 at 2:42 pm |

    ryco/li phil~
    not quite sure how it works into the snuff video, but…
    http://farm4.static....
    …setting up the shoot now ryan

  • Big Al | June 3, 2009 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”332715″]Nope, I can hear Harry’s voice still: “Alcoa presents…Fantastic Finishes!” followed by the year of the play then the description. I tried looking on YouTube but got distracted watching old game clips from the 70s. I miss Curt Gowdy and Pat Summerall![/quote]
    YouTube used to have a bunch, but most, if not all, were pulled b/c of “terms of use violations.”

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”332708″]Teebz’ batting song
    Paul’s batting song
    Phil’s batting song[/quote]

    Beardface’s song:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote]not quite sure how it works into the snuff video, but…[/quote]

    the CPD will be over shortly to explain

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”332665″][quote comment=”332662″]If I was a relief pitcher or a closer, my intro song would be The Band’s “The Weight”.[/quote]

    The White Stripes 7 Nation Army would be good too![/quote]

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Kek | June 3, 2009 at 3:06 pm |

    I’m confused, after several references to international flag code which states that no nation’s flag should be higher than any others, why is there still this “the US flag should always be highest in the US” sentiment?

    Sorry if I’m a little slow/late today!

    I’m also disappointed in all these youtube links I can’t view.

    There also may or may not be a party in New Jersey but I can’t quite figure out if I’m invited!

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”332721″]I’m confused, after several references to international flag code which states that no nation’s flag should be higher than any others, why is there still this “the US flag should always be highest in the US” sentiment?

    Sorry if I’m a little slow/late today!

    I’m also disappointed in all these youtube links I can’t view.

    There also may or may not be a party in New Jersey but I can’t quite figure out if I’m invited![/quote]

    I couldn’t view them either, Doug. But I found our bypass code so I have been attaching links.

    If and when there is a party. you will most definitely be invited.

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”332721″]I’m confused, after several references to international flag code which states that no nation’s flag should be higher than any others, why is there still this “the US flag should always be highest in the US” sentiment?

    Sorry if I’m a little slow/late today!

    I’m also disappointed in all these youtube links I can’t view.

    There also may or may not be a party in New Jersey but I can’t quite figure out if I’m invited![/quote]

    When displayed on the same flagpole, the highest flag should always be the host country’s flag, and no flag should be larger than that flag.

    That is the only case in which the flag at the top should be the highest.

  • Kek | June 3, 2009 at 3:09 pm |

    ironic photo of the day:

    http://deadspin.com/...

  • stinkydawg | June 3, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    I looped all through HS. I have always been fan of showing more color than white sani. In jr. high I went out and bought my own stirrups b/c they made us wear those ugly no sock stirrups like the Washington softball team wore at the WCWS.

  • Kek | June 3, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”332723″][quote comment=”332721″]I’m confused, after several references to international flag code which states that no nation’s flag should be higher than any others, why is there still this “the US flag should always be highest in the US” sentiment?

    Sorry if I’m a little slow/late today!

    I’m also disappointed in all these youtube links I can’t view.

    There also may or may not be a party in New Jersey but I can’t quite figure out if I’m invited![/quote]

    When displayed on the same flagpole, the highest flag should always be the host country’s flag, and no flag should be larger than that flag.

    That is the only case in which the flag at the top should be the highest.[/quote]
    OK, so if on SEPARATE poles, no flag should ever be higher than the other right? (I’m talking flags of nations)

  • mike 2 | June 3, 2009 at 3:13 pm |

    Complete change of pace, but related to yesterday’s discussion of generic baseball stadiums, SkyDome opened 20 years ago today

    http://www.thestar.c...

    In 1989, I remember, it was THE place to be. Astroturf was still fashionable, Camden Yards was still 2 or 3 years from opening, giant scoreboard, moving roof, fireworks, it had absolutely everything.

    20 years later, only 8 ballparks are older than Skydome, and 2 are being replaced (Fla and Min).

    How times change.

  • Ry Co 40 | June 3, 2009 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”332716″]ryco/li phil~
    not quite sure how it works into the snuff video, but…
    http://farm4.static....
    …setting up the shoot now ryan[/quote]

    oh my…

    lol

    cant wait to see it!!!

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”332728″][quote comment=”332716″]ryco/li phil~
    not quite sure how it works into the snuff video, but…
    http://farm4.static....
    …setting up the shoot now ryan[/quote]

    oh my…

    lol

    cant wait to see it!!![/quote]

    What the hell is that a picture of?

  • Beardface | June 3, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”332718″][quote comment=”332708″]Teebz’ batting song
    Paul’s batting song
    Phil’s batting song[/quote]

    Beardface’s song:

    http://www.youtube.c...
    LOL!

    I only heard that song once while at Tech… When I graduated

    I’d prefer this… http://www.youtube.c...

  • Beardface | June 3, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”332730″][quote comment=”332718″][quote comment=”332708″]Teebz’ batting song
    Paul’s batting song
    Phil’s batting song[/quote]

    Beardface’s song:

    http://www.youtube.c...
    LOL!

    I only heard that song once while at Tech… When I graduated

    I’d prefer this… http://www.youtube.c...
    But if you really want a song that would go with my VT roots… Enter Sandman

  • DenverGregg | June 3, 2009 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=\”332727\”]Complete change of pace, but related to yesterday\’s discussion of generic baseball stadiums, SkyDome opened 20 years ago today

    http://www.thestar.c...

    In 1989, I remember, it was THE place to be. Astroturf was still fashionable, Camden Yards was still 2 or 3 years from opening, giant scoreboard, moving roof, fireworks, it had absolutely everything.

    20 years later, only 8 ballparks are older than Skydome, and 2 are being replaced (Fla and Min).

    How times change.[/quote]
    . . . and 3 of the older parks (Dodger, Angel and Kauffmann) have had extensive updates.

  • Dean | June 3, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. The order of precedence for flags generally is National flags (US first, then others in alphabetical order in English), also reading the flag code I came acorss this Section 8j. of the Flag Code states, \”No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.\” So technically should there be no flags on any uniforms???

  • mike 2 | June 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”332732″][quote comment=\”332727\”]Complete change of pace, but related to yesterday\’s discussion of generic baseball stadiums, SkyDome opened 20 years ago today

    http://www.thestar.c...

    In 1989, I remember, it was THE place to be. Astroturf was still fashionable, Camden Yards was still 2 or 3 years from opening, giant scoreboard, moving roof, fireworks, it had absolutely everything.

    20 years later, only 8 ballparks are older than Skydome, and 2 are being replaced (Fla and Min).

    How times change.[/quote]
    . . . and 3 of the older parks (Dodger, Angel and Kauffmann) have had extensive updates.[/quote]

    Which leaves Fenway, Wrigley, and Oakland

  • Namhob | June 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”332697″]Help: This is my first uni watch entry…I coach a high school baseball team. Our colors are black and vegas gold. Our hats are white crown, black C with Gold shadow, and a black bill. i am thinking about getting new hats possibly similar to Vanderbilts hats.
    Does anyone have any suggestions as to uniforms? Not a huge fan of Vegas Gold, but that is what I was dealt.
    This is my second year and in as much time all players are wearing 4″ stirrups with pants at the knees (and I am sick and tired of players bitching that they want to wear “pro style” clemson pants). We currently have a vegas gold mesh jersey with white pants and a majestic black jersey with grey pants.
    Thanks[/quote]
    Ed, here’s something I threw together while not busily working (like I should).

    http://i400.photobuc...

  • Thomas Clark | June 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    Being a fan of the high sock myself the thing that always bugged me was mismatching our road unis and alt tops in high school and college (yes my high school had 3 tops and two pants). So what I would do was work a rotation: Full whites = stir-ups, blue tops or road greys = full color socks. It made it look a little more “together” if you ask me rather than having white sanitaries sticking out with grey unis.

  • Kek | June 3, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”332733″]When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. The order of precedence for flags generally is National flags (US first, then others in alphabetical order in English), also reading the flag code I came acorss this Section 8j. of the Flag Code states, \”No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.\” So technically should there be no flags on any uniforms???[/quote]
    Here’s an article with a photo of said error:
    http://www.cantonrep...

    That’s a banner. The flags aren’t being flown on a staff, they are depictions on a banner. Therefore, I would think this wouldn’t be a violation.

  • Kek | June 3, 2009 at 3:33 pm |

    more on twins’ new ballpark: http://www.startribu...

    Looks great, looking forward to making a roadtrip in the ’10 season.

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”332734″][quote comment=”332732″][quote comment=\”332727\”]Complete change of pace, but related to yesterday\’s discussion of generic baseball stadiums, SkyDome opened 20 years ago today

    http://www.thestar.c...

    In 1989, I remember, it was THE place to be. Astroturf was still fashionable, Camden Yards was still 2 or 3 years from opening, giant scoreboard, moving roof, fireworks, it had absolutely everything.

    20 years later, only 8 ballparks are older than Skydome, and 2 are being replaced (Fla and Min).

    How times change.[/quote]
    . . . and 3 of the older parks (Dodger, Angel and Kauffmann) have had extensive updates.[/quote]

    Which leaves Fenway, Wrigley, and Oakland[/quote]
    Well, Wrigley’s had some pretty serious updates in the last few years (“Bud Light Bleachers”) and Fenway’s got the “Monster Seats”.

  • mike 2 | June 3, 2009 at 3:39 pm |

    I don’t have much to add on flags, but I do know this. When a Canadian team is in the world series for the first time, and you’re carrying the Canadian flag on the field for the first time, find out which way it goes before heading out.

    http://www.uwec.edu/...

  • PuckyTheWhale | June 3, 2009 at 3:40 pm |

    Thanks to these Cincinnati Bearcat pics…

    http://www.libraries...

    http://www.libraries...

    http://www.libraries...

    …I’m gonna have nightmares for weeks! Thanks, Paul Lucas. Thanks.

  • Dean | June 3, 2009 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”332737″][quote comment=”332733″]When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. The order of precedence for flags generally is National flags (US first, then others in alphabetical order in English), also reading the flag code I came acorss this Section 8j. of the Flag Code states, \”No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform.\” So technically should there be no flags on any uniforms???[/quote]
    Here’s an article with a photo of said error:
    http://www.cantonrep...

    That’s a banner. The flags aren’t being flown on a staff, they are depictions on a banner. Therefore, I would think this wouldn’t be a violation.[/quote]

    But what about the flag on uniforms. After 9-11 that has become very common from Pro’s down to youth leagues.

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”332732″][quote comment=\”332727\”]Complete change of pace, but related to yesterday\’s discussion of generic baseball stadiums, SkyDome opened 20 years ago today

    http://www.thestar.c...

    In 1989, I remember, it was THE place to be. Astroturf was still fashionable, Camden Yards was still 2 or 3 years from opening, giant scoreboard, moving roof, fireworks, it had absolutely everything.

    20 years later, only 8 ballparks are older than Skydome, and 2 are being replaced (Fla and Min).

    How times change.[/quote]
    . . . and 3 of the older parks (Dodger, Angel and Kauffmann) have had extensive updates.[/quote]

    White Sox Park 2 (that’s what I call it ;-), also had an extensive update. Far sooner than those others did. Make no mistake, when it opened (1991?) it was considered a great ballpark. Everything changed in ’92. But I guess we covered that yesterday.

  • TC Lofton | June 3, 2009 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”332694″][quote comment=”332687″][quote]That gold is light enough that you should be able to get away with matching trousers, especially if they had purple and white stripes down the side to match the sleeve/collar stripes.[/quote]

    james, i forgot to tell you

    the [sarcasm] tags are broke again[/quote]
    I don’t give a damn. I want, nay I DEMAND, to see an all-gold (preferably lamé) baseball uniform![/quote]

    OK! So I’m NOT alone on this! We just moved to a very nice Pantone 7502 from the loud yellow, and it jsut doesn’t fit right to have that jersey and white pants. Couldn’t get more regal than making them match.

  • Beardface | June 3, 2009 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”332742″]Here’s an article with a photo of said error:
    http://www.cantonrep...

    That’s a banner. The flags aren’t being flown on a staff, they are depictions on a banner. Therefore, I would think this wouldn’t be a violation.[/quote]
    If it was words and flags, ok… but this ‘banner’ just has giant Canadian flag hung over giant USA flag. That shouldn’t have been the case.

    Heck, it would have been better if it was one big banner wih all th flags on it in order, but thats not the way it was. It was Canadian flag flying over American flag on American soil… The people who decided that are morons.

  • Namhob | June 3, 2009 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”332745″][quote comment=”332742″]Here’s an article with a photo of said error:
    http://www.cantonrep...

    That’s a banner. The flags aren’t being flown on a staff, they are depictions on a banner. Therefore, I would think this wouldn’t be a violation.[/quote]
    If it was words and flags, ok… but this ‘banner’ just has giant Canadian flag hung over giant USA flag. That shouldn’t have been the case.

    Heck, it would have been better if it was one big banner wih all th flags on it in order, but thats not the way it was. It was Canadian flag flying over American flag on American soil… The people who decided that are morons.[/quote]
    I blame the American team for the Junior World Football Championships…if they would have performed better, they would’ve received a #1 seed and we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”332745″]Here’s an article with a photo of said error:
    http://www.cantonrep...

    That’s a banner. The flags aren’t being flown on a staff, they are depictions on a banner. Therefore, I would think this wouldn’t be a violation.[/quote]

    those um…aren’t flags

     

    (nice catch, douggie)

    those are banners

    /perhaps the representations of flags shouldn’t have been so precise, but still…not flags

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”332717″][quote comment=”332715″]Nope, I can hear Harry’s voice still: “Alcoa presents…Fantastic Finishes!” followed by the year of the play then the description. I tried looking on YouTube but got distracted watching old game clips from the 70s. I miss Curt Gowdy and Pat Summerall![/quote]
    YouTube used to have a bunch, but most, if not all, were pulled b/c of “terms of use violations.”[/quote]

    Then watch what you can while you can! Today I saw the 78 AFC championship Oilers vs. Steelers in the rain. My old favorite vs. my new favorite. Any UniWatchers ever change team loyalties over a uni change? I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan. How times have changed – on some of the breaks to commercial NBC was playing the instrumental to Barry Manilow’s “Copacabana.” Classic.

    I also saw the 78 Broncos/Steelers playoff. Loved those orange Broncos pants. THAT’S why they lost their first three Super Bowls; they switched to white pants by then…

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”332743″]
    White Sox Park 2 (that’s what I call it ;-), also had an extensive update. Far sooner than those others did. Make no mistake, when it opened (1991?) it was considered a great ballpark. Everything changed in ’92. But I guess we covered that yesterday.[/quote]
    Comiskey Park (that’s what I call it) may have had a good reputation on the national scene back in the first year (which I believe was ’91). But IIRC, as soon as Camden Yards opened things went 180.

    Living in Chicago, part of the reputation it earned was bad based on the idea that it was replacing a local icon. And once people got into that second deck, the reputation went downhill quickly.

    Seeing a game from the first deck is a great experience. And as a Sox fan, any ticket for me is good-but that second deck isn’t popular with casual fans even today.

  • Juggernaut | June 3, 2009 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”332689″]Paul,

    It’s “Suppan”, not “Soupan”.[/quote]

    This is like the 4th person that doesn’t get it.

    Anyway, if I were a ballplayer I’d want some organ music for my entrance. They should abolish anything but organ music from live baseball and hockey games.

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”332709″]No, as previouly stated, it was Alcoa (at least originally). IIRC, the IBM segment was “You Make The Call”[/quote]
    And Google agrees with you.

    Obviously, “you made the call” here. :-)

  • Juggernaut | June 3, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”332739″]
    Well, Wrigley’s had some pretty serious updates in the last few years (“Bud Light Bleachers”) and Fenway’s got the “Monster Seats”.[/quote]

    Fenway has had a TON of improvements since the new owners came in around 2002. The park, in many ways, is a completely different place. Larger concourses, more seating, revamped upper seating, two restaurants and improved luxury box areas. The Monster Seats and the Budweiser RF Roof Deck are just two additions to dozens of huge upgrades.

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”332719″]the CPD will be over shortly to explain[/quote]And as Robt undoubtedly knows, the term shortly is judged relative to your location vis-a-vis the nearest Dunkin’ Donuts. :-)

  • mike 2 | June 3, 2009 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”332749″][quote comment=”332743″]
    White Sox Park 2 (that’s what I call it ;-), also had an extensive update. Far sooner than those others did. Make no mistake, when it opened (1991?) it was considered a great ballpark. Everything changed in ’92. But I guess we covered that yesterday.[/quote]
    Comiskey Park (that’s what I call it) may have had a good reputation on the national scene back in the first year (which I believe was ’91). But IIRC, as soon as Camden Yards opened things went 180.

    Living in Chicago, part of the reputation it earned was bad based on the idea that it was replacing a local icon. And once people got into that second deck, the reputation went downhill quickly.

    Seeing a game from the first deck is a great experience. And as a Sox fan, any ticket for me is good-but that second deck isn’t popular with casual fans even today.[/quote]

    Skydome is (IMO) similar – they’ve also done cosmetic things to improve the look of the ballpark, but the things that make it an unappealing place to watch a game (astroturf, roof usually closed, circular bowl design) haven’t changed and aren’t going to change.

  • Big Al | June 3, 2009 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”332748″]I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan.[/quote]
    Purely coincidental that you became a Stillers fan smack in the middle of back-to-back Super Bowl wins, I’m sure…

  • Kek | June 3, 2009 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”332745″][quote comment=”332742″]Here’s an article with a photo of said error:
    http://www.cantonrep...

    That’s a banner. The flags aren’t being flown on a staff, they are depictions on a banner. Therefore, I would think this wouldn’t be a violation.[/quote]
    If it was words and flags, ok… but this ‘banner’ just has giant Canadian flag hung over giant USA flag. That shouldn’t have been the case.

    Heck, it would have been better if it was one big banner wih all th flags on it in order, but thats not the way it was. It was Canadian flag flying over American flag on American soil… The people who decided that are morons.[/quote]
    I don’t get it, what about the other nation’s flags? Should Sweden and Australia be mad that Germany and France’s flags are above them, or is it moot because it’s on American soil?

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”332756″][quote comment=”332745″][quote comment=”332742″]Here’s an article with a photo of said error:
    http://www.cantonrep...

    That’s a banner. The flags aren’t being flown on a staff, they are depictions on a banner. Therefore, I would think this wouldn’t be a violation.[/quote]
    If it was words and flags, ok… but this ‘banner’ just has giant Canadian flag hung over giant USA flag. That shouldn’t have been the case.

    Heck, it would have been better if it was one big banner wih all th flags on it in order, but thats not the way it was. It was Canadian flag flying over American flag on American soil… The people who decided that are morons.[/quote]
    I don’t get it, what about the other nation’s flags? Should Sweden and Australia be mad that Germany and France’s flags are above them, or is it moot because it’s on American soil?[/quote]
    Clearly, they should boycott the tournament.

  • =bg= | June 3, 2009 at 4:38 pm |

    NFL Teams Selling Space On Practice Jerseys

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”332749″][quote comment=”332743″]
    White Sox Park 2 (that’s what I call it ;-), also had an extensive update. Far sooner than those others did. Make no mistake, when it opened (1991?) it was considered a great ballpark. Everything changed in ’92. But I guess we covered that yesterday.[/quote]
    Comiskey Park (that’s what I call it) may have had a good reputation on the national scene back in the first year (which I believe was ’91). But IIRC, as soon as Camden Yards opened things went 180.

    Living in Chicago, part of the reputation it earned was bad based on the idea that it was replacing a local icon. And once people got into that second deck, the reputation went downhill quickly.

    Seeing a game from the first deck is a great experience. And as a Sox fan, any ticket for me is good-but that second deck isn’t popular with casual fans even today.[/quote]

    And I guess I hoped that was the point I was trying to make. It probably was crap (relatively speaking) when it opened but I’ve rarely heard reviews of a park when it opens saying, “This really sucks” even if it does.

    I’ve never been to a game at WSP2, but I can tell you I LOVE the renovated roof. It looks more like Yankee Stadium than Yankee Stadium does/did (after ’73).

    Just to elaborate, my moniker for the southside stadium is a reference to the pre-Veeck era when the name Comiskey had been stripped.

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”332755″][quote comment=”332748″]I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan.[/quote]
    Purely coincidental that you became a Stillers fan smack in the middle of back-to-back Super Bowl wins, I’m sure…[/quote]

    Actually, I get that all the time. I made the switch the year the Raiders (making a spitting noise right now) beat them in the 76 playoffs. I stayed with them during the 80s, and I’m still a Pirates fan, so I’m not a bandwagon guy. It’s more of a family thing now – I need to have ONE thing my dad and I can agree on…

    Apparently they switched to white helmets earlier, because I just saw some Howard Cosell highlights from 75, and the Oilers wore white. I must have been in limbo for a season or two.

    Also saw this gem: http://www.youtube.c... Sammy Baugh and the Skins in the 1940s, in color. Towards the end they play the orange-clad Bears and the yellow-helmeted Rams. Great stuff!

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”332755″][quote comment=”332748″]I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan.[/quote]
    Purely coincidental that you became a Stillers fan smack in the middle of back-to-back Super Bowl wins, I’m sure…[/quote]

    Ironically, the white helmets came along at the same (1975) time the Oilers became relevant again. Of course, Bum & Billy White Shoes came along about the same time too.

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”332761″][quote comment=”332755″][quote comment=”332748″]I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan.[/quote]
    Purely coincidental that you became a Stillers fan smack in the middle of back-to-back Super Bowl wins, I’m sure…[/quote]

    Ironically, the white helmets came along at the same (1975) time the Oilers became relevant again. Of course, Bum & Billy White Shoes came along about the same time too.[/quote]

    That’s right, I forgave the white helmets for a while because of Billy White Shoes, but I finally gave in to family pressure and joined the Steeler Nation. Funny, I followed the Oilers through a 1-13 season, then ditched them after they get good…

  • Lwiedy | June 3, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”332762″][quote comment=”332761″][quote comment=”332755″][quote comment=”332748″]I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan.[/quote]
    Purely coincidental that you became a Stillers fan smack in the middle of back-to-back Super Bowl wins, I’m sure…[/quote]

    Ironically, the white helmets came along at the same (1975) time the Oilers became relevant again. Of course, Bum & Billy White Shoes came along about the same time too.[/quote]

    That’s right, I forgave the white helmets for a while because of Billy White Shoes, but I finally gave in to family pressure and joined the Steeler Nation. Funny, I followed the Oilers through a 1-13 season, then ditched them after they get good…[/quote]

    I don’t know if you remember this but why did Sid Gilman leave? He started the turnaround in 1974 and then there was Bum. I know he was old but there is a great NFL Films piece (The Championship Chase) that chronicles Sid’s season but no mention of it being his final year.

  • rpm | June 3, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”332729″][quote comment=”332728″][quote comment=”332716″]ryco/li phil~
    not quite sure how it works into the snuff video, but…
    http://farm4.static....
    …setting up the shoot now ryan[/quote]

    oh my…

    lol

    cant wait to see it!!![/quote]

    What the hell is that a picture of?[/quote]

    it might be a jello head with a bannana in it.

  • oilfan | June 3, 2009 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”332664″]When I played in the mid-’70s, we went with the high stirrups and rolled them up into the bottom of our pant legs to keep them high.

    The socks and stirrups went on first, then the pants, so you could set the bottom of the pant leg roughly where you wanted it. Then you pulled the top of the stirrup back down over the inside-out pant leg. When you pulled up your pants, your high stirrups looked perfect.[/quote]

    When I played – that was the only way I wore my uniform. Although when I slid at times, the roll up from the top of the stirrup would get pretty uncomfortable on my calf – small price to pay huh?

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”332763″][quote comment=”332762″][quote comment=”332761″][quote comment=”332755″][quote comment=”332748″]I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan.[/quote]
    Purely coincidental that you became a Stillers fan smack in the middle of back-to-back Super Bowl wins, I’m sure…[/quote]

    Ironically, the white helmets came along at the same (1975) time the Oilers became relevant again. Of course, Bum & Billy White Shoes came along about the same time too.[/quote]

    That’s right, I forgave the white helmets for a while because of Billy White Shoes, but I finally gave in to family pressure and joined the Steeler Nation. Funny, I followed the Oilers through a 1-13 season, then ditched them after they get good…[/quote]

    I don’t know if you remember this but why did Sid Gilman leave? He started the turnaround in 1974 and then there was Bum. I know he was old but there is a great NFL Films piece (The Championship Chase) that chronicles Sid’s season but no mention of it being his final year.[/quote]

    I was in grade school at the time, so I don’t recall a lot of details. Just saw this article though, http://news.google.c... that might explain. Apparently the players union had a beef with him, that could have led to something.

    Also watched Part III of the Sammy Baugh film on YouTube – it looked as if the Chicago Cardinals had dark (navy?) jerseys and red socks. Anyone ever hear of that before? It could be my monitor, but they didn’t look red.

  • Vegas4BOC | June 3, 2009 at 5:15 pm |

    Who is the writer (Holly Anderson) for this Rivals.com article on NCAA uniform updates. Is she actually getting her information from Paul?
    http://rivals.yahoo....

  • JTH | June 3, 2009 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”332766″][quote comment=”332763″][quote comment=”332762″][quote comment=”332761″][quote comment=”332755″][quote comment=”332748″]I was an Oiler fan from 72-76 when they had the blue helmets. When they switched to the white helmets I became a Steelers fan.[/quote]
    Purely coincidental that you became a Stillers fan smack in the middle of back-to-back Super Bowl wins, I’m sure…[/quote]

    Ironically, the white helmets came along at the same (1975) time the Oilers became relevant again. Of course, Bum & Billy White Shoes came along about the same time too.[/quote]

    That’s right, I forgave the white helmets for a while because of Billy White Shoes, but I finally gave in to family pressure and joined the Steeler Nation. Funny, I followed the Oilers through a 1-13 season, then ditched them after they get good…[/quote]

    I don’t know if you remember this but why did Sid Gilman leave? He started the turnaround in 1974 and then there was Bum. I know he was old but there is a great NFL Films piece (The Championship Chase) that chronicles Sid’s season but no mention of it being his final year.[/quote]

    I was in grade school at the time, so I don’t recall a lot of details. Just saw this article though, http://news.google.c... that might explain. Apparently the players union had a beef with him, that could have led to something.

    Also watched Part III of the Sammy Baugh film on YouTube – it looked as if the Chicago Cardinals had dark (navy?) jerseys and red socks. Anyone ever hear of that before? It could be my monitor, but they didn’t look red.[/quote]
    They definitely look blue. I suppose they couldn’t wear red because it was too close to the Redskins’ color.

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 5:20 pm |

    Good, it’s not just me. Guess they had alternates back then, huh?

  • BurghFan | June 3, 2009 at 5:24 pm |

    From yesterday:

    PNC Park is so great, I wish I had a time machine so I could go back in time and make a shirt that said “I WANT TO CALL IT PNC” and wear it to the shithole that was 3Rivers! I know, I know, the history blah, blah. Immaculate Reception, Roberto’s 3000th. I DON’T CARE! That place was a cold, cement bowl of multi-purpose crap.

    Depending on when you wore that shirt, you might have wanted to call it Pittsburgh National Park. Even better, it could have been Clemente Park or some other non-corporate name.

    And I still miss Three Rivers every time I go to Heinz Field.

  • Jim | June 3, 2009 at 5:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”332770″]From yesterday:

    PNC Park is so great, I wish I had a time machine so I could go back in time and make a shirt that said “I WANT TO CALL IT PNC” and wear it to the shithole that was 3Rivers! I know, I know, the history blah, blah. Immaculate Reception, Roberto’s 3000th. I DON’T CARE! That place was a cold, cement bowl of multi-purpose crap.

    Depending on when you wore that shirt, you might have wanted to call it Pittsburgh National Park. Even better, it could have been Clemente Park or some other non-corporate name.

    And I still miss Three Rivers every time I go to Heinz Field.[/quote]

    I thought I would too, but I really don’t.

  • =bg= | June 3, 2009 at 5:44 pm |

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Pietrus changes shoes for Finals

  • =bg= | June 3, 2009 at 5:50 pm |

    Pro Football Talk.com;

    Titans Wore Practice Jersey Patches Without League Approval
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 3, 2009, 4:47 p.m. EDT

    We’ve tracked down more information regarding the fact that the Titans have been, for at least a couple of years, wearing a “Baptist Sports Management” patch on their practice jerseys.

    With the league adopting in March a rule allowing teams to rent space on the shirts they wear while practicing, we perceived the implication to be either the Titans were breaking the prior rule or the league had bent the rule for the Titans.

    Actually, the Titans were simply winging it, since there previously was no league rule addressing the situation, one way or the other.

    “There was no policy prohibiting what the Titans did with their practice jerseys,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told us via e-mail. “Then the concept was discussed by our Business Ventures Committee, which decided that there should be a set of rules for this opportunity.”

    So, basically, the rule passed in March validated the Titans’ approach, and formally extended the opportunity to every other team.

  • concealed78 | June 3, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”332749″][quote comment=”332743″]
    White Sox Park 2 (that’s what I call it ;-), also had an extensive update. Far sooner than those others did. Make no mistake, when it opened (1991?) it was considered a great ballpark. Everything changed in ’92. But I guess we covered that yesterday.[/quote]
    Comiskey Park (that’s what I call it) may have had a good reputation on the national scene back in the first year (which I believe was ’91). But IIRC, as soon as Camden Yards opened things went 180.

    Living in Chicago, part of the reputation it earned was bad based on the idea that it was replacing a local icon. And once people got into that second deck, the reputation went downhill quickly.

    Seeing a game from the first deck is a great experience. And as a Sox fan, any ticket for me is good-but that second deck isn’t popular with casual fans even today.[/quote]

    I sat up in the upper deck for one game. Absolutely miserable, way too loud, too many kids, people down below kept blocking my view of the plate. Never again.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 6:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”332731″][quote comment=”332730″][quote comment=”332718″][quote comment=”332708″]Teebz’ batting song
    Paul’s batting song
    Phil’s batting song[/quote]

    Beardface’s song:

    http://www.youtube.c...
    LOL!

    I only heard that song once while at Tech… When I graduated

    I’d prefer this… http://www.youtube.c...
    But if you really want a song that would go with my VT roots… Enter Sandman[/quote]

    That was AWESOME, Beardface…I almost started jumping around!

  • Aaron Scholder | June 3, 2009 at 6:13 pm |

    Here’s a tour of the Meigray warehouse, featuring hundreds of jerseys.
    Video:
    http://www.facebook....

    Pictures:
    http://www.facebook....

  • Giancarlo | June 3, 2009 at 6:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”332748″]
    I also saw the 78 Broncos/Steelers playoff. Loved those orange Broncos pants. THAT’S why they lost their first three Super Bowls; they switched to white pants by then…[/quote]
    Actually the Broncs wore white pants in the ’77 season that culminated in their Super Bowl loss. ’78 was when they re-introduced the orange pants. Never reached the Super Bowl in either of their orange pant eras.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2009 at 6:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”332776″]Here’s a tour of the Meigray warehouse, featuring hundreds of jerseys.
    Video:
    http://www.facebook....

    Pictures:
    http://www.facebook....

    i think teebz just came a little

  • The Hemogoblin | June 3, 2009 at 6:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”332750″][quote comment=”332689″]Paul,

    It’s “Suppan”, not “Soupan”.[/quote]

    This is like the 4th person that doesn’t get it.

    Anyway, if I were a ballplayer I’d want some organ music for my entrance. They should abolish anything but organ music from live baseball and hockey games.[/quote]

    I get it. It’s just retarded.

  • Squiddie | June 3, 2009 at 6:42 pm |

    Target Field (I’m calling it Nicollet) with have a roof deck with a fire pit. Also a big Budweiser sign.

    I like to think this is a nod to the 1959 Junior World Series where the Havana Sugar Kings tried to keep warm during away games by starting a fire in the dugout trash can.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2009 at 6:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”332778″][quote comment=”332776″]Here’s a tour of the Meigray warehouse, featuring hundreds of jerseys.
    Video:
    http://www.facebook....

    Pictures:
    http://www.facebook....?
    aid=78602&id=71539427983&ref=mf[/quote]

    I am LOVING these:

    http://photos-f.ak.f...
    i think teebz just came a little[/quote]

  • Gill | June 3, 2009 at 7:31 pm |

    A brother UniWatch fan pointed out a pretender site.
    http://rivals.yahoo....

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”332780″]Target Field (I’m calling it Nicollet) with have a roof deck with a fire pit.[/quote]
    Just when you thought “hey, I haven’t seen a-lawsuit-just-waiting-to-happen all day today…” one comes along.

  • buckeyes | June 3, 2009 at 7:54 pm |

    Yes, it’s quite late, but I don’t see what the big deal about advertising on the uniform is. European soccer leagues have been doing it for quite some time, and now it is finally catching on in the US. Let it be noted that I do have a problem with the AIG on Man U’s unis, but that is another issue altogether. Ads are everywhere in sports, from outfield walls to the chairs NBA players sit on. So long as StubHub or any of those other ticket ripoff websites don’t partake I am all for it.

  • Jeff_D | June 3, 2009 at 8:16 pm |

    “Legendary BEATLE PAUL MCCARTNEY will perform the historic first concerts at CITI FIELD, the new home of the N.Y. METS, on FRIDAY, JULY 17th and SATURDAY, JULY 18th.”

    Wouldn’t it be AWESOME if someone could get him to wear and “I’m calling it Shea” t-shirt for the gig? If anyone has that kind of pull, PLEASE make it happen!

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 8:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”332785″]”Legendary BEATLE PAUL MCCARTNEY will perform the historic first concerts at CITI FIELD, the new home of the N.Y. METS, on FRIDAY, JULY 17th and SATURDAY, JULY 18th.”

    Wouldn’t it be AWESOME if someone could get him to wear and “I’m calling it Shea” t-shirt for the gig? If anyone has that kind of pull, PLEASE make it happen![/quote]
    Okay, so just to repeat: if there is someone who is spending his/her time posting on the Uniwatch blog and who also has enough pull and influence over a BILLIONAIRE (at least pre-divorce he was a billionaire) to affect his choice of apparel when he’s performing for a worldwide audience, then speak right up and we’ll get you a t-shirt to give to Paul.

    :-))

    (However, I am thinking that with the artistic and computer talent present here on a daily basis, the magic of Photoshop might be well be utilized….)

  • Jeff_D | June 3, 2009 at 8:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”332786″][quote comment=”332785″]”Legendary BEATLE PAUL MCCARTNEY will perform the historic first concerts at CITI FIELD, the new home of the N.Y. METS, on FRIDAY, JULY 17th and SATURDAY, JULY 18th.”

    Wouldn’t it be AWESOME if someone could get him to wear and “I’m calling it Shea” t-shirt for the gig? If anyone has that kind of pull, PLEASE make it happen![/quote]
    Okay, so just to repeat: if there is someone who is spending his/her time posting on the Uniwatch blog and who also has enough pull and influence over a BILLIONAIRE (at least pre-divorce he was a billionaire) to affect his choice of apparel when he’s performing for a worldwide audience, then speak right up and we’ll get you a t-shirt to give to Paul.

    :-))

    (However, I am thinking that with the artistic and computer talent present here on a daily basis, the magic of Photoshop might be well be utilized….)[/quote]

    You’re probably right, but it was worth a shot…
    :)

  • anotherguy | June 3, 2009 at 9:12 pm |

    Getting Paul to wear it would be a longshot.

    However, I’m sure several of the posters/bigwigs here are going to try and organize the entire upper deck to be in one shade of those t-shirts, the lower deck in a different shade, and the on-field seating in a third. :-)))

    Seriously, depending on exactly who sponsors the 2009 tour, McCartney may just say “I’m glad to be back at Shea”.

  • Hibbs | June 3, 2009 at 9:19 pm |

    Who fucking cares where “our” flag is placed? It’s a tournament. Seeds will be seeds. How about a little respect to the country that gave us Trailer Park Boys.

    My apologies if this has been beaten to death. I’m reading late and I couldn’t get past the first mention of this.

  • Ryan | June 3, 2009 at 10:05 pm |

    I and most of my teammates playing high school ball used the loop-around-the-foot technique of making long stirrups short, primarily to show off the stripes on our stirrups that would otherwise be hidden by the bottoms of our pants.

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | June 3, 2009 at 11:20 pm |

    The referee at the USA-Costa Rica Soccer Match was wearing a Coral-Red shirt in the first half, but has changed to a black shirt in the second half.

    Costa Rica are wearing red tops, so I thought the referee’s initial choice was odd.

  • Teebz | June 3, 2009 at 11:46 pm |

    July 10, I’m having my credit card’s limit upped to a million dollars.

    July 11, I’m logging on to Meigray’s site for their sale.

    July 12, I’m figuring out how to pay down my ridiculous credit card bill.

  • Hibbs | June 3, 2009 at 11:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”332790″]Who fucking cares where “our” flag is placed? It’s a tournament. Seeds will be seeds. How about a little respect to the country that gave us Trailer Park Boys.

    My apologies if this has been beaten to death. I’m reading late and I couldn’t get past the first mention of this.[/quote]

    Judge not, lest ye be judged.

  • Geoff L | June 4, 2009 at 1:47 am |

    The two dudes who dress up as umpires were once again sitting behind home plate tonight at Rogers Centre for the Jays-Angels game.

  • Chris | June 4, 2009 at 1:56 am |

    [quote comment=”332782″]A brother UniWatch fan pointed out a pretender site.
    http://rivals.yahoo....

    a pretender site??

    umm, that’s Yahoo’s college football blog Dr. Saturday.

    well, I guess if by updating readers on college football uniforms about 3 or 4 times a year at most then yes, its a pretender site

  • Steve | June 4, 2009 at 1:57 am |

    Anybody know what’s up with JC Romero’s hat? First game back from suspension tonight and I noticed his brim is tan on the bottom, not the usual 59Fifty black.
    Pics

  • DenverGregg | June 4, 2009 at 8:29 am |

    Great entry music for a batter or closer, if the organist is good enough: here.

  • Big Al | June 4, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”332786″][quote comment=”332785″]”Legendary BEATLE PAUL MCCARTNEY will perform the historic first concerts at CITI FIELD, the new home of the N.Y. METS, on FRIDAY, JULY 17th and SATURDAY, JULY 18th.”

    Wouldn’t it be AWESOME if someone could get him to wear and “I’m calling it Shea” t-shirt for the gig? If anyone has that kind of pull, PLEASE make it happen![/quote]
    Okay, so just to repeat: if there is someone who is spending his/her time posting on the Uniwatch blog and who also has enough pull and influence over a BILLIONAIRE (at least pre-divorce he was a billionaire) to affect his choice of apparel when he’s performing for a worldwide audience, then speak right up and we’ll get you a t-shirt to give to Paul.[/quote]
    [Farley in “Tommy Boy”] That… was… awe-some! [/Farley in “Tommy Boy”]