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Build Your Own League; Hell, Build Your Own World

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I know a few of you aren’t in love with these homemade logos and uni designs from various readers’ adolescence, but I totally dig them and plan to keep running them. And I think even some of the nay-sayers may enjoy the ones recently unearthed by reader Bob Ciani, whose childhood doddlings went above and beyond the realm explored by most of our previous contributors in this area.

A few months ago, I hit the mother lode of my drawings and other materials from the IFL — the Intellivision Football League (so named because the team names were originally used for our teams when we were playing Intellivision Football). Eventually, as Intellivision fell by the wayside, I kept at it, as the Illegitimate Football League.

I believe another major influence was when they announced the formation of the USFL when I was 14, and their search to name the new Boston team. Someone suggested “Boston Massacre” and I was off naming teams across the country.

I’ve got tons of stuff — uniform designs, old logos, “folded” teams, name changes, advertisements, even logos and tickets for the Pseudo Bowl championship games. Looking back at it, it’s funny and embarrassing all at once.

I remember working really hard at that league logo (a takeoff on the MLB and NBA logos, obviously). It’s supposed to be a silhouette of the Heisman Trophy figure, but it never worked quite right. As for the team logos, many of them were rip-offs from other corporate logos I liked at the time, but there are some originals in there too.

One thing I really love about the IFL is the way he didn’t just come up with some team names and uni designs — he created an entire world, with its own little history, for his league. For example, he didn’t just create that one set of Pseudo Bowl tickets — he also created logos and matchups for eight years’ worth of Pseudo Bowls. And look how he modified some NFL photos to fit his IFL designs (which would be easy to do with Photoshop today but is so much cooler and more endearing when done by hand like Bob did it). You can see more of his IFL material here.

Extracurricular Update: Sorry we’ve been slow with the new round of “I Still Call It…” T-shirts. No Mas honcho Chris Isenberg and I have both been slightly detoured by Real Life (he’s getting married next weekend; I’ve had an ongoing family situation), but I can tell you that I’ve seen the preliminary artwork for the Jake, Comiskey, Joe Robbie, and Mile High shirts, and they all look great. I think you’ll like.

Meanwhile, the weekend is upon us, which means the City Reliquary will be open for business, in case anyone wants to check out the Candela Structures exhibit.

Uni Watch News Ticker: New road kit for Arsenal (with thanks to Stephen Wong). … Alan Kreit was staying at hotel up around Lake George and found some old team portraits on the wall of his room. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Mississippi State is soliciting fan input for their new court design. … Also from yesterday: Fun article about Stanley Cup typos. … The Lakers apparently have a 50th-anniversary logo. That was scanned from an envelope sent to a friend of Joe Nocella. … Doug Keklak was watching the Real Sports segment on new NFLPA boss Demaurice Smith and nabbed a coupla screen shots of interest. “One is from Smith’s high school playing days (check out those stripes/shoulders) and the other is something that was left behind by the late Gene Upshaw. They said Upshaw wore it for every game in his career. It does look pretty beat up, but I didn’t think players kept the same helmet season after season.” … Also from Kek: “Here are my Lady Trojans of Johnstown High in playoff action Tuesday against Lewistown. The Lewistown girl appears to have award stickers on her helmet.” … Latest member of Stirrup Nation (although just barely): Rajai Davis (with thanks to Tom Lupoff). … Man, talk about a study in contrasts. The pitcher plays for Cyprus High School in Utah. Interesting to see they’re using the Pittsburgh Pirates’ logo, but otherwise it’s a sharp look. Additional pics here (with thanks to Jon Alviani). … Inspiring uni number news out of Atlanta (with thanks to Allison Kleiber). … Pete Carroll is finding some interesting uses for Twitter (with thanks to Brinke Guthrie). … No photo, but several people have mentioned that the Yanks’ rear-cap stadium logo has been missing from Robinson Cano’s cap lately. … The Dolphins have made a slight wordmark adjustment (with thanks to Matt Infante). … As you know, the Giants’ equipment guy marks each player’s helmet with a fairly large nameplate decal. But I guess they didn’t have time to do that for Jesus Guzman’s MLB debut yesterday, because they went with a slightly more primitive approach.

Holiday Schedule: Phil will handle the weekend as usual, and we’ll have open jibber-jabbering on Monday. But hopefully you already have long-weekend plans that will be taking you far away from the computer anyway, right? Right.

 

186 comments to Build Your Own League; Hell, Build Your Own World

  • LI Phil | May 22, 2009 at 8:12 am |

    sweet…

    VPL two days in a row!

    /nice intellivision league stuff bob!

    i had intellivision (the only video game i ever owned) — sucked at the football game, but i retired, 25 years ago, UNDEFEATED in the baseball game…

  • DenverGregg | May 22, 2009 at 8:17 am |

    Some really creative names in the IFL. New York Doctors is very funny, but is there a backstory for New Jersey Nap?

  • peter | May 22, 2009 at 8:23 am |

    Interesting article!! I think I would have gone this route as a kid, but I had tecmo super bowl for my NES and it kept all my stats…

    I used to keep clippings & stats to compare “my games” to the real deal…(at 8 years old, I had trouble understanding how I could Ken O’Brien to throw for nearly 400 yards a game, where in real life, he was getting sacked for that same amount)

    Have a great weekend everyone!! Shutting the BB off & NO COMPUTER!!

    Death! Death to eXistenZ!! (nah, im just kidding…no technology…just a weekend on the Hudson & BBQ!!)

    Im ouT!!

  • Ryan | May 22, 2009 at 8:31 am |

    Did anyone notice that in that made-up football league, the team from Atlanta was called the “Slaves”. Given that it was done by a child, I will ignore its offensiveness and just be amused.

  • Ry Co 40 | May 22, 2009 at 8:32 am |

    [quote comment=”330507″]sweet…

    VPL two days in a row!

    /nice intellivision league stuff bob!

    i had intellivision (the only video game i ever owned) — sucked at the football game, but i retired, 25 years ago, UNDEFEATED in the baseball game…[/quote]

    1-0???

    haha

    great work bob! creative as hell! i love that the chicago bombers is the belly of an airplane. lol

    we were JUST talking about intellivision yesterday around the office. i was looking up youtube videos of burger time! great memories!

  • Matt Brosseau | May 22, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”330508″]Some really creative names in the IFL. New York Doctors is very funny, but is there a backstory for New Jersey Nap?[/quote]

    Possibly…lots of wise guys taking dirt naps (or more accurately swamp naps) out in the Meadowlands.

    The IFL reminded me of my high-school PFL (Paper Football League) and somewhere in my mom’s attic are the Super Bowl PFL trophies (basically paper footballs made out of aluminum foil with a Roman numeral and the score of the game written on it in Sharpie). Between paper football and hacky sack, it’s amazing I managed to graduate high school at all.

    To Uni Watchers one and all, have a happy and safe Memorial Day weekend.

  • Brandon | May 22, 2009 at 8:37 am |

    I love that the “Boston Massacre” was mocked up using the key cohorts from Nebraska’s ’83 Scoring Explosion.

    A.K.A “Earth, Wind, & Fryar”

  • -Vince | May 22, 2009 at 8:38 am |

    I love the GIJoe Cobra down in the SNAKE PIT!

  • LI Phil | May 22, 2009 at 8:41 am |

    [quote comment=”330510″]Did anyone notice that in that made-up football league, the team from Atlanta was called the “Slaves”. Given that it was done by a child, I will ignore its offensiveness and just be amused.[/quote]

    ouch…didn’t notice that, but i’ll agree, was prolly just a “play” on atlanta braves and no malicious intent was there

    what i have found most interesting about the ‘refrigerator art’ projects, is that i can now remember at least THREE separate ‘leagues’ having teams from hawaii (including this one — the “5-0”)…im not sure at whatever age it was these were done i even heard of hawaii, much less would have considered it for a sports league

    also … enjoyed the phoenix fiesta logo (reminded me immediately of the so cal sun) … i can see the WFL influence in this league (also, thats the same page where the hawaii 5-0 logo is)

  • MPowers1634 | May 22, 2009 at 8:44 am |

    Perhaps Rajai Davis has been touched by “Outmania”.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • BobC | May 22, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    thanks for posting my stuff and for the feedback, it’s funny to look back on a lot of this stuff after so many years.

    Not that it’s any excuse, but I’ll use my youth as an excuse for the offensive “slaves” moniker – To answer another questions, along the same unfortunate, juvenile lines, the New Jersey team is actually the “Nads”, for the sole purpose of being able to have “Go Nads” as their cheer. Oh, to be 14 again!

  • Kek | May 22, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    Ah Intellivision football, the days when you could run out of one side of the screen and tackle a runner on the other side! Didn’t have Intellivision but the game they made for the Atari 2600 was the same deal.

    Bob, that Pittsburgh Ironmen logo that incorporates the Bethlehem Steel logo…thing of beauty! Pretty damn creative from a then-teenager. Well done.

    RyCo, you need to collabo and do a DIY sweatshirt of that or something!

  • Weghorst | May 22, 2009 at 8:55 am |

    Great IFL football league, Bob! I played my Intellivision until I had to take the controllers apart and clean them with alcohol and Q-tips (so the contacts would work better). Ahh, those were the days. Thanks again.

  • xyz | May 22, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    Upshaw wore the MacGregor for a long part of his career but not the entire time. I believe he wore a Riddell suspension when he first entered the league and I know he wore a Bike later in his carreer.

  • Wade Harder | May 22, 2009 at 9:02 am |

    [quote comment=”330512″][quote comment=”330508″]Some really creative names in the IFL. New York Doctors is very funny, but is there a backstory for New Jersey Nap?[/quote]

    Possibly…lots of wise guys taking dirt naps (or more accurately swamp naps) out in the Meadowlands.
    .[/quote]

    Or maybe he had a premonition about Imus’s comments on the Rutgers women’s basketball team and ran with that.

  • TommyD | May 22, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    Denver Carrington’s seems to be a nod to the tv show “Dynasty”

    http://www.imdb.com/...

  • chiarams | May 22, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    On the new Dolphins wordmark – did they also remove the “M” from the helmet the dolphin is wearing in the logo? Or is it just glare from the picture?

  • Florian | May 22, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    Picked up the “Atlanta Slaves” as well and, honestly, found it pretty funny as a play on history and, obviously, the Atlanta Braves. Would love to see designs for that though.

    With all this stuff made as a child, I think I must look into where I put my made-up, self-drawn Pro Wrestling Trading Cards. *g*

  • ironcladlou | May 22, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    Can us Pats fans get an “I still call it CMGI Field” shirt?

  • Dwayne | May 22, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    Put me down as another that doesn’t care for the adolescent artwork.

  • Lincoln | May 22, 2009 at 9:11 am |

    Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

  • Matt Brosseau | May 22, 2009 at 9:12 am |

    [quote comment=”330523″]On the new Dolphins wordmark – did they also remove the “M” from the helmet the dolphin is wearing in the logo? Or is it just glare from the picture?[/quote]

    Nah, the M’s definitely still there. Just glare I think.

  • pk | May 22, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    Looking for a confirmation now, but if the Dallas Cowboys new 60 yard 400 Million dollar scoreboard is only 90 feet off the ground…(the avg. punt is 80-85 feet high)….I bet the NFL is not going to be happy creating a stupid ground rule just for the Cowboys…anyone have info on this?

  • Ricko | May 22, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    Alright, noticed the “Zappers” in there among the team names. Didn’t think anyone’d ever used that for anything. There was team called the “Zappers” in my TFL (Tabletop Football League) that used the “NFL Strategy” game. I know, I know, pre-electronic and therefore from the Dark Ages.

    Bet no one else had the “Fighting Florists”, though (wore essentially a lavender-and-white version of Tennessee’s unis). LOL.

    —Ricko

  • scott | May 22, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    I much prefer that look to just wearing a dark-colored jersey. I’m giving them kudos for having the guts to do what MLB teams should be doing.

  • Hott Rodd | May 22, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    Put me down as one who can’t stand all the people whining about how they don’t like the topics. If you don’t like them then skip over them, come back tomorrow, check the comments later to see if anything interesting is going on etc.. I really don’t think any of us care whether or not individual people like the DIY/Fridge stuff, so what is the point of continuing to complain about it? Barring all that go work somewhere that has Flickr/Photobucket blocked, and that way instead of saying how much you don’t like the day’s topic, you can bring up the site and wish you could actually see what everyone else is getting excited over!

    /end rant

  • TommyD | May 22, 2009 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”330523″]On the new Dolphins wordmark – did they also remove the “M” from the helmet the dolphin is wearing in the logo? Or is it just glare from the picture?[/quote]

    a quick trip to the dolphins website shows the M in the helmet on all the logos. Is there a place where they unveiled a new logo?

  • Beardface | May 22, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    With BankUnited’s failure yesterday, it looks like the University of Miami is going to be looking for new sponsorship for their spiffy basketball arena…

  • Kek | May 22, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”330532″]Put me down as one who can’t stand all the people whining about how they don’t like the topics. If you don’t like them then skip over them, come back tomorrow, check the comments later to see if anything interesting is going on etc.. I really don’t think any of us care whether or not individual people like the DIY/Fridge stuff, so what is the point of continuing to complain about it? Barring all that go work somewhere that has Flickr/Photobucket blocked, and that way instead of saying how much you don’t like the day’s topic, you can bring up the site and wish you could actually see what everyone else is getting excited over!

    /end rant[/quote]
    Put me down as agreeing with your rant. You gotta love how Paul gives the fair warning in the first freaking sentence of the post yet some folks still feel the need to have their voice heard.

    I’d never say anyone should express an opinion but it’s just kind of annoying to me when you think about how hard it is to have content seven days a week (and it kills me how Phil busts his ASS on the weekends and we get idiot statements like “these posts are too long”). If it was DIY/young art five days a week I’d say there would be a legit gripe but I think Paul is doing a good job of spreading things out.

    Also, have an open mind and try something new. At first, I have to admit, I was NOT a fan of the DIY thing. I went from skipping them, to actually looking at them with appreciation because I’m a terrible person when it comes to art.

    Now, I love them, and I think a big part of that is because I got to meet RyCo and I can see the passion and hardwork that goes into these projects first hand. So I’ve evolved into a UW reader that looks forward to ANY user-creator stuff.

  • Allan | May 22, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    I want “I’m calling it Riverfront” shirts for the Reds fans.

  • interlockingtc | May 22, 2009 at 9:48 am |

    The 14 year old Mr. Ciani’s most brilliant creation: the stark, eerie simplicity of the Bermuda Triangles.

  • Shane | May 22, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Very nice collection with the IFL. I’d be a hypocrite to get mad at his “Atlanta Slaves” though. I played a dice football game with a buddy in high school, and we had both the “Georgia Klansmen” AND the “Mississippi Burning” as team names. We were directing it more to rip on southerners, but it was innocently offensive nonetheless!

  • George Ciervo | May 22, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    I’ve got tons of stuff — uniform designs, old logos, “folded” teams, name changes, advertisements, even logos and tickets for the Pseudo Bowl championship games. Looking back at it, it’s funny and embarrassing all at once.

    Embarrassing? Bah – groups of grown men are still doing this stuff. :) (IHOF – International House of Football – has done all of those for bowl “telecasts” and even had a couple owners create podcast radio shows)

    Awesome stuff, and yet again a reminder that I shouldn’t have thrown my stuff from when I was a kid out. :(

    Oh – and Intellevision rules.

  • Geeman | May 22, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”330531″][quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    I much prefer that look to just wearing a dark-colored jersey. I’m giving them kudos for having the guts to do what MLB teams should be doing.[/quote]

    You. Must. Be. Kidding.

    And I like dark jerseys.

  • Ricko | May 22, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”330536″]I want “I’m calling it Riverfront” shirts for the Reds fans.[/quote]

    I keep trying to imagine what…
    “I’m calling it
    Oakland Alameda County Stadium Complex”
    would look like.

    Would be tough to read.
    But funny.

    —Ricko

  • Matt B | May 22, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    “study in contrasts” aka “VPL” link is dead

    /is calling it City Stadium

  • Jay | May 22, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    Long time reader, first time poster. I admit, I had nearly the same obsession with our Baseball Stars league for the NES. The first time I remember that you could create you and your friends in a game. Amazing.

    You fine folks might dig our audio podcast, Masters Of None. In our latest episode we debate Jerseys as Fashion, next week it’s on the best video game console ever, so double whammy. It’s on i-tunes or at http://www.MastersOf.... We’d love to have you on sometime Paul.

  • Beardface | May 22, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    Instead of coming up with more “I’m calling it *stadium name*” shirts, how bout this…

    “I’m calling them *team name*” shirts. Like, “I’m calling them the Whale” for the Hurricanes, or “I’m calling them the Oilers” for Houston or Tennessee, or “I’m calling them the Expos” for the Natinals.

    Would those run into TM issues?

  • Flip | May 22, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    I have no real problem with the red on red. Works for Cuba. http://www.uksport.g...

  • LI Phil | May 22, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”330526″]Put me down as another that doesn’t care for the adolescent artwork.[/quote]

    would you rather have adolescent artwork or a “gone fishin'” sign?

    exactly

  • Matt Brosseau | May 22, 2009 at 10:18 am |

    Can anyone give me some advice on tearing out the front liner on a New Era 59Fifty? As tools, I have an X-Acto blade and plenty of patience, but most of my haberdashing experience is with the Twins Franchise model of chapeau, which is a far easier lid to break in…

  • Alan #44 | May 22, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    “Florida Keys…Unlock the excitement!” Brilliant!

  • Jim Bullard | May 22, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”330535″][quote comment=”330532″]Put me down as one who can’t stand all the people whining about how they don’t like the topics. If you don’t like them then skip over them, come back tomorrow, check the comments later to see if anything interesting is going on etc.. I really don’t think any of us care whether or not individual people like the DIY/Fridge stuff, so what is the point of continuing to complain about it? Barring all that go work somewhere that has Flickr/Photobucket blocked, and that way instead of saying how much you don’t like the day’s topic, you can bring up the site and wish you could actually see what everyone else is getting excited over!

    /end rant[/quote]
    Put me down as agreeing with your rant. You gotta love how Paul gives the fair warning in the first freaking sentence of the post yet some folks still feel the need to have their voice heard.

    I’d never say anyone should express an opinion but it’s just kind of annoying to me when you think about how hard it is to have content seven days a week (and it kills me how Phil busts his ASS on the weekends and we get idiot statements like “these posts are too long”). If it was DIY/young art five days a week I’d say there would be a legit gripe but I think Paul is doing a good job of spreading things out.

    Also, have an open mind and try something new. At first, I have to admit, I was NOT a fan of the DIY thing. I went from skipping them, to actually looking at them with appreciation because I’m a terrible person when it comes to art.

    Now, I love them, and I think a big part of that is because I got to meet RyCo and I can see the passion and hardwork that goes into these projects first hand. So I’ve evolved into a UW reader that looks forward to ANY user-creator stuff.[/quote]

    Agreed, this is a blog that is updated DAILY. There is no way you are going to enjoy the topics selected EVERY SINGLE DAY. Be thankful that an outlet like this exists at all.

    Anyway,

    Seeing all these childhood drawings of logos and leagues makes me wish I had saved all mine. Being from upstate New York, I had dozens of made-up lacrosse teams, which would add a new spin, but I highly doubt all those have been saved at my parents’ house.

    Also, for some reason I remember creating a basketball team called “Suess” and all the players wore Cat in the Hat hats. The team’s colors were aqua, red, black, and white.

  • mako | May 22, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    Okay, I had to look it up – during Ryan Briggs’s “bizarre at-bat in the bottom of the eighth” he was hit by two successive pitches, but the first time the umpire ruled that he didn’t try hard enough to get out of the way and the second time that he was crowding the plate so much that his arm was in the strike zone. So he remained at bat and eventually struck out, whereupon I guess he pitched the hissy captured in the photos. I know these are just high school kids and all, but I was taught that making a choke gesture at the ump was, um, generally not such a great idea….

  • Ricko | May 22, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”330548″]”Florida Keys…Unlock the excitement!” Brilliant![/quote]

    LOL. Reminded me of sitting around BSing with a couple people from the Twins organization about 20 years ago. We were pondering the concept of “Why not put a AA farm team in Rochester (home of Mayo Clinic about an hour south of Twin Ciites)?” Call ’em the “Rochester X-Rays”. For one reason, to get a hat with an X on it. But mostly because of the natural marketing campaign:
    “Wanna See the Future of the Twins? Check the X-Rays.”

    —Ricko

  • Hott Rodd | May 22, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”330546″][quote comment=”330526″]Put me down as another that doesn’t care for the adolescent artwork.[/quote]

    would you rather have adolescent artwork or a “gone fishin'” sign?

    exactly[/quote]

    Is the gone fishin’ sign an adolescent drawring?

  • Matt Brosseau | May 22, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”330550″] I know these are just high school kids and all, but I was taught that making a choke gesture at the ump was, um, generally not such a great idea….[/quote]

    I got the fastest red card I ever saw for making the same gesture to a ref in high school. Although I had to run 50 laps after the game (we won), it was worth it…that ref was a total hack.

  • mako | May 22, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    “Go Nads” – hahahahaha! Ah, youth.

    These ol’ eyes ain’t what they used to be – is that team actually called the Massachusetts Monks? Surely there’s a story there, too….

  • Teebz | May 22, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    You want DIY? I’m gonna break this story here instead of on my blog (although it will be there later).

    I received an email from a gentleman named Jacob Hawkins. Jacob, a NYC film maker, and his friend from Detroit, Greg, decided to start their own NHL Marketing campaign. The catch is that Jacob looks similar to Henrik Zetterberg of the Red Wings. And so begins the daily life of Zetterberg away from the rink.

    Check it out here. That’s a YouTube link, so I apologize if you can’t see it at work. Again, it will be on my blog later as well.

    According to Jacob’s email, he’s planning on doing a number of these commercials as well – Henrik going on a job interview, fighting pollution, taking a guitar lesson and many more.

    His intention? Let the fans have a say in how the NHL is marketed. His hope is that the NHL notices these commercials.

    If this isn’t one of the cooler DIY projects for hockey that I’ve seen… well, maybe I just don’t know DIY very well. :o)

  • Geeman | May 22, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”330545″][quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    I have no real problem with the red on red. Works for Cuba. http://www.uksport.g...

    Nah. It should be reserved for women’s softball games or the occasional Nebraska home football game.

  • Kek | May 22, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”330539″]

    I’ve got tons of stuff — uniform designs, old logos, “folded” teams, name changes, advertisements, even logos and tickets for the Pseudo Bowl championship games. Looking back at it, it’s funny and embarrassing all at once.

    Embarrassing? Bah – groups of grown men are still doing this stuff. :) (IHOF – International House of Football – has done all of those for bowl “telecasts” and even had a couple owners create podcast radio shows)

    Awesome stuff, and yet again a reminder that I shouldn’t have thrown my stuff from when I was a kid out. :(

    Oh – and Intellevision rules.[/quote]
    nothing embarrassing at all…you should see some of the fantasy football players with logos/helmets created, etc.

    Also, check this out: http://www.intellivi...

    From that page:

    You and your opponent can choose from over 180 offensive and defensive plays — so it’s as much a game of strategy as execution.

    Is that some kind of a joke? I remember there being two choices with each of the four WRs: go out for a pass or don’t go out for a pass!

  • mako | May 22, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”330555″]You want DIY? I’m gonna break this story here instead of on my blog (although it will be there later).

    I received an email from a gentleman named Jacob Hawkins. Jacob, a NYC film maker, and his friend from Detroit, Greg, decided to start their own NHL Marketing campaign. The catch is that Jacob looks similar to Henrik Zetterberg of the Red Wings. And so begins the daily life of Zetterberg away from the rink.

    Check it out here. That’s a YouTube link, so I apologize if you can’t see it at work. Again, it will be on my blog later as well.

    According to Jacob’s email, he’s planning on doing a number of these commercials as well – Henrik going on a job interview, fighting pollution, taking a guitar lesson and many more.

    His intention? Let the fans have a say in how the NHL is marketed. His hope is that the NHL notices these commercials.

    If this isn’t one of the cooler DIY projects for hockey that I’ve seen… well, maybe I just don’t know DIY very well. :o)[/quote]

    LOVE IT!!!

  • MPowers1634 | May 22, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”330544″]Instead of coming up with more “I’m calling it *stadium name*” shirts, how bout this…

    “I’m calling them *team name*” shirts. Like, “I’m calling them the Whale” for the Hurricanes, or “I’m calling them the Oilers” for Houston or Tennessee, or “I’m calling them the Expos” for the Natinals.

    Would those run into TM issues?[/quote]

    How about: “I’m calling them for the Nationals”.

  • MPowers1634 | May 22, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”330559″][quote comment=”330544″]Instead of coming up with more “I’m calling it *stadium name*” shirts, how bout this…

    “I’m calling them *team name*” shirts. Like, “I’m calling them the Whale” for the Hurricanes, or “I’m calling them the Oilers” for Houston or Tennessee, or “I’m calling them the Expos” for the Natinals.

    Would those run into TM issues?[/quote]

    How about: “I’m calling them the Nationals”.[/quote]

  • M.Princip | May 22, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    Great graphic, put together buy our resident football helmet expert, aeneas1, from gameuseduniverse.com Gene Upshaw Helmet History

    Clearly showing he didn’t wear that helmet every game of his career.

  • George Ciervo | May 22, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”330557″][quote comment=”330539″]
    Embarrassing? Bah – groups of grown men are still doing this stuff. :) (IHOF – International House of Football – has done all of those for bowl “telecasts” and even had a couple owners create podcast radio shows)

    Awesome stuff, and yet again a reminder that I shouldn’t have thrown my stuff from when I was a kid out. :(

    Oh – and Intellevision rules.[/quote]
    nothing embarrassing at all…you should see some of the fantasy football players with logos/helmets created, etc.

    Also, check this out: http://www.intellivi...

    From that page:

    You and your opponent can choose from over 180 offensive and defensive plays — so it’s as much a game of strategy as execution.

    Is that some kind of a joke? I remember there being two choices with each of the four WRs: go out for a pass or don’t go out for a pass![/quote]

    Well, there were 4 buttons you’d push for a pass and two for a run (9-8-8-9, 7-6, etc), so in theory I guess there could be that many combos.

    Love the “running man” – I used him as a logo with a little wind shear (New Mexico Windrunners) once. :)

    And I’m about the LAST to be embarrassed by this stuff – I have two mini-helmets from my fake teams in my family room. Nevermind the db driven sites, the fake baseball unis, dozens of helmet logos, the logo I made last night for a fake hoops league that doesn’t exist yet…

  • Kek | May 22, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”330562″][quote comment=”330557″][quote comment=”330539″]
    Embarrassing? Bah – groups of grown men are still doing this stuff. :) (IHOF – International House of Football – has done all of those for bowl “telecasts” and even had a couple owners create podcast radio shows)

    Awesome stuff, and yet again a reminder that I shouldn’t have thrown my stuff from when I was a kid out. :(

    Oh – and Intellevision rules.[/quote]
    nothing embarrassing at all…you should see some of the fantasy football players with logos/helmets created, etc.

    Also, check this out: http://www.intellivi...

    From that page:

    You and your opponent can choose from over 180 offensive and defensive plays — so it’s as much a game of strategy as execution.

    Is that some kind of a joke? I remember there being two choices with each of the four WRs: go out for a pass or don’t go out for a pass![/quote]

    Well, there were 4 buttons you’d push for a pass and two for a run (9-8-8-9, 7-6, etc), so in theory I guess there could be that many combos.

    Love the “running man” – I used him as a logo with a little wind shear (New Mexico Windrunners) once. :)

    And I’m about the LAST to be embarrassed by this stuff – I have two mini-helmets from my fake teams in my family room. Nevermind the db driven sites, the fake baseball unis, dozens of helmet logos, the logo I made last night for a fake hoops league that doesn’t exist yet…[/quote]
    Ah, forgetting the different controller for the Intellivision. Atari 2600 gave you a joystick and a button.

  • Squiddie | May 22, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”330555″]
    According to Jacob’s email, he’s planning on doing a number of these commercials as well – Henrik going on a job interview, fighting pollution, taking a guitar lesson and many more.
    [/quote]
    Does he go to a Japanese restaurant and order the takoyaki?

  • mike 2 | May 22, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    Anyone who thinks Intellivision was primitive never played Mattel Football

    http://www.handheldm...

  • Will S | May 22, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    The Boston Massacre was always one of my go-to names for all the backyard sports I played with my brothers. I’ve always thought that was a great name. If the Boston teams weren’t all so darn historic maybe we could get one of them to change

  • Teebz | May 22, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”330564″][quote comment=”330555″]
    According to Jacob’s email, he’s planning on doing a number of these commercials as well – Henrik going on a job interview, fighting pollution, taking a guitar lesson and many more.
    [/quote]
    Does he go to a Japanese restaurant and order the takoyaki?[/quote]

    No comment on that as he didn’t say, but that might be another good suggestion for a commercial idea! LOL

  • mike 2 | May 22, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    And on an entirely uni-related note, interleague play starts tonight.

    Are there any teams that do anything special for interleague games anymore (similar to the Phillies old interleague hats)? I think the answer is “no” but I stand to be corrected on that.

  • Mairi | May 22, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    as someone who also knew and loved Aaron O’neal its great to see Willy is keeping up the tradition… AO will always be loved by my generation of Tigers and i hope his memory is kept alive for future tigers. M-I-Z… F kU haha had to throw that one in there AO loved that chant!!

  • Rufus | May 22, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”330547″]Can anyone give me some advice on tearing out the front liner on a New Era 59Fifty? As tools, I have an X-Acto blade and plenty of patience, but most of my haberdashing experience is with the Twins Franchise model of chapeau, which is a far easier lid to break in…[/quote]

    This is for the old style (wool) 59Fifty but it might help
    http://www.bugsandcr...

  • LI Phil | May 22, 2009 at 11:43 am |

    [quote] on an entirely uni-related note, interpleague play starts tonight[/quote]

    fixed

    and, while im not the definitive answer on the subject…NO…i don’t believe any of the teams do anything special, uni wise, when they meet up in interplague

    *unless you count the mets wonderful one-shot last season in the final game at OYS where they donned blue caps…

    a look we mets fans have been pining for since the last century

  • Ricko | May 22, 2009 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”330568″]And on an entirely uni-related note, interleague play starts tonight.

    Are there any teams that do anything special for interleague games anymore (similar to the Phillies old interleague hats)? I think the answer is “no” but I stand to be corrected on that.[/quote]

    i am the only one who thinks the interleague thing has about run its course? Sounded great when I was a kid, and I suppose it IS great for Mets-Yankees, etc. But the reality is, some teams may have an advantage if they draw a doormat from the other league instead of playing the best of their own league a few more times.

    And it means that, say, the Red Sox and Yankees don’t come to the Metrodome a couple more times a season. That shifts the emphasis to division games. leaving the Twins playing the Royals so many times that, from a baseball fan perspective, it comes close to the viewing equivalent of waterboarding.

    —Ricko

  • Squiddie | May 22, 2009 at 11:46 am |

    Mark Chiarello has his Negro League artwork online. Check it out here.

  • Matt Brosseau | May 22, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”330571″]
    This is for the old style (wool) 59Fifty but it might help
    http://www.bugsandcr...

    Perfect. Thank youuuuuu.

  • Lee | May 22, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”330515″][quote comment=”330510″]Did anyone notice that in that made-up football league, the team from Atlanta was called the “Slaves”. Given that it was done by a child, I will ignore its offensiveness and just be amused.[/quote]

    ouch…didn’t notice that, but i’ll agree, was prolly just a “play” on atlanta braves and no malicious intent was there

    what i have found most interesting about the ‘refrigerator art’ projects, is that i can now remember at least THREE separate ‘leagues’ having teams from hawaii (including this one — the “5-0”)…im not sure at whatever age it was these were done i even heard of hawaii, much less would have considered it for a sports league

    also … enjoyed the phoenix fiesta logo (reminded me immediately of the so cal sun) … i can see the WFL influence in this league (also, thats the same page where the hawaii 5-0 logo is)[/quote]

    I too had the Honolulu Storm in my NAFL ( http://i267.photobuc... )
    As my league was heavily influenced by the old WFL (Jacksonville Sharks, the “Storm”, Southern California Suns, San Antonio Wings among others) and the original concept was for it to be competition with the NFL, I needed NFL alternate cities.
    Thats also how I ended up with franchises in Portland, Albuquerque, Syracuse(!) and Columbus as well as Charlotte & Phoenix well before the NFL actually had teams there.

    Lee

  • Beardface | May 22, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    http://www.wralsport...

    Looks like there might be a rebranding in the near future of the Charlotte Bobcats

  • Teebz | May 22, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”330573″]That shifts the emphasis to division games. leaving the Twins playing the Royals so many times that, from a baseball fan perspective, it comes close to the viewing equivalent of waterboarding.[/quote]

    The Royals? The team that is 2.5 games up on the Twins right now? That sounds like a pretty decent game, actually. ;o)

    In all seriousness, divisional games are huge no matter when they are played. It’s a one-game swing upwards for the winning team if they trail, or the chance to really bury a team if the winning squad already is ahead.

    Look at the Rays’ dominance over the Yankees and BoSox last season. That’s how they won the division over teams with payrolls that were 10x what they were spending.

  • Ricko | May 22, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”330576″][quote comment=”330515″][quote comment=”330510″]Did anyone notice that in that made-up football league, the team from Atlanta was called the “Slaves”. Given that it was done by a child, I will ignore its offensiveness and just be amused.[/quote]

    ouch…didn’t notice that, but i’ll agree, was prolly just a “play” on atlanta braves and no malicious intent was there

    what i have found most interesting about the ‘refrigerator art’ projects, is that i can now remember at least THREE separate ‘leagues’ having teams from hawaii (including this one — the “5-0”)…im not sure at whatever age it was these were done i even heard of hawaii, much less would have considered it for a sports league

    also … enjoyed the phoenix fiesta logo (reminded me immediately of the so cal sun) … i can see the WFL influence in this league (also, thats the same page where the hawaii 5-0 logo is)[/quote]

    I too had the Honolulu Storm in my NAFL ( http://i267.photobuc... )
    As my league was heavily influenced by the old WFL (Jacksonville Sharks, the “Storm”, Southern California Suns, San Antonio Wings among others) and the original concept was for it to be competition with the NFL, I needed NFL alternate cities.
    Thats also how I ended up with franchises in Portland, Albuquerque, Syracuse(!) and Columbus as well as Charlotte & Phoenix well before the NFL actually had teams there.

    Lee[/quote]

    Childhood friend had a league with the “Honoruru Babees”. Always loved that.

  • Ricko | May 22, 2009 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”330578″][quote comment=”330573″]That shifts the emphasis to division games. leaving the Twins playing the Royals so many times that, from a baseball fan perspective, it comes close to the viewing equivalent of waterboarding.[/quote]

    The Royals? The team that is 2.5 games up on the Twins right now? That sounds like a pretty decent game, actually. ;o)

    In all seriousness, divisional games are huge no matter when they are played. It’s a one-game swing upwards for the winning team if they trail, or the chance to really bury a team if the winning squad already is ahead.

    Look at the Rays’ dominance over the Yankees and BoSox last season. That’s how they won the division over teams with payrolls that were 10x what they were spending.[/quote]

    Didn’t mean to slight the Royals this season. Just meant the way it’s been over the past few years.

  • pflava | May 22, 2009 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”330555″]You want DIY? I’m gonna break this story here instead of on my blog (although it will be there later).

    I received an email from a gentleman named Jacob Hawkins. Jacob, a NYC film maker, and his friend from Detroit, Greg, decided to start their own NHL Marketing campaign. The catch is that Jacob looks similar to Henrik Zetterberg of the Red Wings. And so begins the daily life of Zetterberg away from the rink.

    Check it out here. That’s a YouTube link, so I apologize if you can’t see it at work. Again, it will be on my blog later as well.

    According to Jacob’s email, he’s planning on doing a number of these commercials as well – Henrik going on a job interview, fighting pollution, taking a guitar lesson and many more.

    His intention? Let the fans have a say in how the NHL is marketed. His hope is that the NHL notices these commercials.

    If this isn’t one of the cooler DIY projects for hockey that I’ve seen… well, maybe I just don’t know DIY very well. :o)[/quote]

    That was really well done. I especially love the end with the razors.

  • Teebz | May 22, 2009 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”330580″]
    Didn’t mean to slight the Royals this season. Just meant the way it’s been over the past few years.[/quote]

    I was just pushing your buttons, Ricko. ;o)

  • pflava | May 22, 2009 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”330577″]http://www.wralsportsfan.com/bobcats/story/5197557/

    Looks like there might be a rebranding in the near future of the Charlotte Bobcats[/quote]

    How about re-branding them the Seattle Supersonics?

  • Ricko | May 22, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”330582″][quote comment=”330580″]
    Didn’t mean to slight the Royals this season. Just meant the way it’s been over the past few years.[/quote]

    I was just pushing your buttons, Ricko. ;o)[/quote]

    I know. LOL
    And I was saying (and being far too longwinded about, I suppose) that rather than see the Twins play the Astros or spmeone, it would be nice to have another series with the Red Sox.

    The novelty of generic, obligatory interleague matchups has gone seriously meh. For me, anyway

    —Ricko

  • Hank | May 22, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”330572″][quote] on an entirely uni-related note, interpleague play starts tonight[/quote]

    fixed

    and, while im not the definitive answer on the subject…NO…i don’t believe any of the teams do anything special, uni wise, when they meet up in interplague

    *unless you count the mets wonderful one-shot last season in the final game at OYS where they donned blue caps…

    a look we mets fans have been pining for since the last century[/quote]

    When interplague play first started, the Phillies would wear a blue/red cap at home with a star in the middle of the P. They ditched that design when they introduced their outstanding alts. http://mlb.imageg.ne...

  • Teebz | May 22, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”330584″][quote comment=”330582″][quote comment=”330580″]
    Didn’t mean to slight the Royals this season. Just meant the way it’s been over the past few years.[/quote]

    I was just pushing your buttons, Ricko. ;o)[/quote]

    I know. LOL
    And I was saying (and being far too longwinded about, I suppose) that rather than see the Twins play the Astros or spmeone, it would be nice to have another series with the Red Sox.

    The novelty of generic, obligatory interleague matchups has gone seriously meh. For me, anyway

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Scott Carson, stats man for Rogers Sportsnet broadcasts of Blue Jays games, actually suggested what you are proposing today on his blog. An interesting read, for sure.

  • pflava | May 22, 2009 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”330584″][quote comment=”330582″][quote comment=”330580″]
    Didn’t mean to slight the Royals this season. Just meant the way it’s been over the past few years.[/quote]

    I was just pushing your buttons, Ricko. ;o)[/quote]

    I know. LOL
    And I was saying (and being far too longwinded about, I suppose) that rather than see the Twins play the Astros or spmeone, it would be nice to have another series with the Red Sox.

    The novelty of generic, obligatory interleague matchups has gone seriously meh. For me, anyway

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Agreed. I’ve always thought that interleague took away from the uniqueness of the World Series, too. There was something extra-cool about seeing an AL and NL team face each other that is lost now.

  • Lee | May 22, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    For those of you who had your “own leagues”, how did you actually PLAY the games? Or did you? Did you keep stats, and record results? What tools & resources did you use to create the game play? How did you handle player acquisition and movement?

    You can contact me at pop.1280@gmail.com so we don’t clutter the board, I’d really be interested.

    Lee

  • Matt Brosseau | May 22, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”330584″]
    The novelty of generic, obligatory interleague matchups has gone seriously meh. For me, anyway

    —Ricko[/quote]

    They should just do it less. Maybe one rivalry series (Yanks-Mets, Dodgers-Angels, Rangers-Astros, Rays-Marlins, Cubs-Sox, Indians-Reds, Brewers-Twins) and one other series and call it an interleague day. That way you can at least raise some hoop-de-doo about the whole thing and it matters because they’re not just going to do it again a month later.

    Maybe MLB can even do it for charity or something. “Interleague for Impetigo.”

  • Jeff P | May 22, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”330571″][quote comment=”330547″]Can anyone give me some advice on tearing out the front liner on a New Era 59Fifty? As tools, I have an X-Acto blade and plenty of patience, but most of my haberdashing experience is with the Twins Franchise model of chapeau, which is a far easier lid to break in…[/quote]

    This is for the old style (wool) 59Fifty but it might help
    http://www.bugsandcr...
    There are actually a few things on that I would change. Primarily wetting it and just letting it dry. Don’t do that. It’ll shrink the cap too much. You wet it with warm water and then wear the cap until it drys, which will cause it to shrink to exactly the size of your head, and you never need to pop the stitches, which are there in case you accidentally shrink it too small. You’ll also get a better fit if you wear it after wetting.

    As for the surgery on the crown, I used a regular pocket knife to take the vertical strands out of the side of the backing while leaving the support in the middle so the logo still looks nice. That allows the sides to fold and crease back in when the cap is shrunk, which allows you to get the more rounded look while keeping the logo section looking nice, like so. A small pen knife and pliers to pull the strands out once you get them loose are all you need.

    But the biggest part of making the cap look like it fits is the shrinking part, it pulls the front more in line with the curve of your head. But if you don’t do the sides, the cap will look like it was meant to be worn on a circular head.

    Also as a disclaimer, I’ve never tried to work with one of the new polyester caps. Both of mine are wool.

  • Beardface | May 22, 2009 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”330585″][quote comment=”330572″][quote] on an entirely uni-related note, interpleague play starts tonight[/quote]

    fixed

    and, while im not the definitive answer on the subject…NO…i don’t believe any of the teams do anything special, uni wise, when they meet up in interplague

    *unless you count the mets wonderful one-shot last season in the final game at OYS where they donned blue caps…

    a look we mets fans have been pining for since the last century[/quote]

    When interplague play first started, the Phillies would wear a blue/red cap at home with a star in the middle of the P. They ditched that design when they introduced their outstanding alts. http://mlb.imageg.ne...
    They also used to have the one that looked similar to that, but had stars on the sides of the P instead of on it…

    http://spln.imageg.n...

  • Steve May | May 22, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”330539″]

    I’ve got tons of stuff — uniform designs, old logos, “folded” teams, name changes, advertisements, even logos and tickets for the Pseudo Bowl championship games. Looking back at it, it’s funny and embarrassing all at once.

    Embarrassing? Bah – groups of grown men are still doing this stuff. :) (IHOF – International House of Football – has done all of those for bowl “telecasts” and even had a couple owners create podcast radio shows)

    Awesome stuff, and yet again a reminder that I shouldn’t have thrown my stuff from when I was a kid out. :(

    Oh – and Intellevision rules.[/quote]

    It’s interesting how things modernize. I run an OOTP Baseball league (Fictional teams/players/uniforms) – it was fun designing the caps and uniforms of the league (some GMs had their own creations). I had some help (there’s a lot of fan sites on the net for OOTP – and they had some good wordmarks and such)

    So the Toronto Theives look like this – http://www.pretendle...

    The Vancouver Lumberjacks like this –
    http://www.pretendle...

    and so on. It’s neat creating a fictional world with its own superstars. But then again – I’m a geek.

  • Anotherguy | May 22, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”330579″]
    Childhood friend had a league with the “Honoruru Babees”. Always loved that.[/quote]
    I haven’t seen the Philadelphia Lawyers in any of these leagues yet. That seems like a natural.

    Oh, and Kansas City Comets? :-( That’s unnecessary.

  • Hank | May 22, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    What makes interleague play a bigger farce is the forced ‘natural rivals’ for some teams. When interplay started the Phillies would play the Orioles. But now with the Natinals in the mix, MLB determined they and the O’s will be rivals and deemed the Phils’ rival to be the Blue Jays. What?!?!?! Because of one WS between the them nearly 20 years ago? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

  • Hank | May 22, 2009 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”330591″][quote comment=”330585″][quote comment=”330572″][quote] on an entirely uni-related note, interpleague play starts tonight[/quote]

    fixed

    and, while im not the definitive answer on the subject…NO…i don’t believe any of the teams do anything special, uni wise, when they meet up in interplague

    *unless you count the mets wonderful one-shot last season in the final game at OYS where they donned blue caps…

    a look we mets fans have been pining for since the last century[/quote]

    When interplague play first started, the Phillies would wear a blue/red cap at home with a star in the middle of the P. They ditched that design when they introduced their outstanding alts. http://mlb.imageg.ne...
    They also used to have the one that looked similar to that, but had stars on the sides of the P instead of on it…

    http://spln.imageg.n...
    Yes. Forgot about that one. That style looks to be their original interplay cap.

  • Anotherguy | May 22, 2009 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”330594″]What makes interleague play a bigger farce is the forced ‘natural rivals’ for some teams. When interplay started the Phillies would play the Orioles. But now with the Natinals in the mix, MLB determined they and the O’s will be rivals and deemed the Phils’ rival to be the Blue Jays. What?!?!?! Because of one WS between the them nearly 20 years ago? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.[/quote]

    Boston/Phil should be the interleague rivalry here, but I’m sure Bud has a better idea.

    The true story is that SOMEONE is going to be screwed. There is just no interleague rivalry possible for Denver, or Detroit for that matter.

  • Mike Engle | May 22, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”330595″][quote comment=”330591″][quote comment=”330585″][quote comment=”330572″][quote] on an entirely uni-related note, interpleague play starts tonight[/quote]

    fixed

    and, while im not the definitive answer on the subject…NO…i don’t believe any of the teams do anything special, uni wise, when they meet up in interplague

    *unless you count the mets wonderful one-shot last season in the final game at OYS where they donned blue caps…

    a look we mets fans have been pining for since the last century[/quote]

    When interplague play first started, the Phillies would wear a blue/red cap at home with a star in the middle of the P. They ditched that design when they introduced their outstanding alts. http://mlb.imageg.ne...
    They also used to have the one that looked similar to that, but had stars on the sides of the P instead of on it…

    http://spln.imageg.n...
    Yes. Forgot about that one. That style looks to be their original interplay cap.[/quote]
    Really? I find it hard to believe that that was ever anything more than a fashion cap. ANybody have a game picture?

  • dgc | May 22, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”330588″]For those of you who had your “own leagues”, how did you actually PLAY the games? Or did you? Did you keep stats, and record results? What tools & resources did you use to create the game play? How did you handle player acquisition and movement?

    You can contact me at pop.1280@gmail.com so we don’t clutter the board, I’d really be interested.

    Lee[/quote]

    Earl Weaver Baseball all the way. You could create players, stadiums, leagues, and schedules. Since the outfield walls were done in a “enter 7 distances” way, it was hilarious alternating min and max values for that zig-zag effect. Lots of triples and cheapo HRs.

  • Lee | May 22, 2009 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”330598″][quote comment=”330588″]For those of you who had your “own leagues”, how did you actually PLAY the games? Or did you? Did you keep stats, and record results? What tools & resources did you use to create the game play? How did you handle player acquisition and movement?

    You can contact me at pop.1280@gmail.com so we don’t clutter the board, I’d really be interested.

    Lee[/quote]

    Earl Weaver Baseball all the way. You could create players, stadiums, leagues, and schedules. Since the outfield walls were done in a “enter 7 distances” way, it was hilarious alternating min and max values for that zig-zag effect. Lots of triples and cheapo HRs.[/quote]

    Was that a computer game?
    My league(s) have always been dice & chart style play. My football game is my own based on a concept that a junior high school friend came up with. I did have a strat-o-matic baseball game, that was probably the most ‘advanced’ I ever got.
    Even now, while all my stats & records are kept on my computer, the actual game play involves rolling dice and referencing a chart.

    Lee

  • Ricko | May 22, 2009 at 12:48 pm |

    “There is just no interleague rivalry possible for Denver, or Detroit for that matter.”

    So let the Rockies and Tigers play every year. Have Red Wings and Avalanche players to throw out the first pitches for the first few games. Remind folks (players included) that there is at least a bit of a rivalry between the markets, if not the teams. A couple years of that, and of playing one another, and some enmity would build up, I think.

    —Ricko

  • George Ciervo | May 22, 2009 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=\”330592\”]It’s interesting how things modernize. I run an OOTP Baseball league (Fictional teams/players/uniforms) – it was fun designing the caps and uniforms of the league (some GMs had their own creations). I had some help (there’s a lot of fan sites on the net for OOTP – and they had some good wordmarks and such)

    So the Toronto Theives look like this – http://www.pretendle...

    The Vancouver Lumberjacks like this –
    http://www.pretendle...

    and so on. It’s neat creating a fictional world with its own superstars. But then again – I\’m a geek.[/quote]

    Yep – that’s what I did (out-of-game) uniforms for, a MP OOTP league (FOBL). Things like uniform packs, FaceGen etc. are great. The football stuff is for MP FOF leagues.

    But yes, it’s fun to watch things evolve with age and technology. From childhood doodles using notepads and crayons, to MicroLeague Baseball (stat compiler!), to games like OOTP with tools like Illustrator and Photoshop (along with FaceGen, Madden screenshots).

  • dgc | May 22, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”330599″][quote comment=”330598″][quote comment=”330588″]For those of you who had your “own leagues”, how did you actually PLAY the games? Or did you? Did you keep stats, and record results? What tools & resources did you use to create the game play? How did you handle player acquisition and movement?

    You can contact me at pop.1280@gmail.com so we don’t clutter the board, I’d really be interested.

    Lee[/quote]

    Earl Weaver Baseball all the way. You could create players, stadiums, leagues, and schedules. Since the outfield walls were done in a “enter 7 distances” way, it was hilarious alternating min and max values for that zig-zag effect. Lots of triples and cheapo HRs.[/quote]

    Was that a computer game?
    My league(s) have always been dice & chart style play. My football game is my own based on a concept that a junior high school friend came up with. I did have a strat-o-matic baseball game, that was probably the most ‘advanced’ I ever got.
    Even now, while all my stats & records are kept on my computer, the actual game play involves rolling dice and referencing a chart.

    Lee[/quote]

    Yeah, PC game. Wow, it even has it’s own wikipedia page. Quite a pain to come up with career stats for every player so it could do the auto-rating thing, but fun. You auto-play the games so a whole schedule for a 24-team league was quite manageable.

  • marc | May 22, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”330546″][quote comment=”330526″]Put me down as another that doesn’t care for the adolescent artwork.[/quote]

    would you rather have adolescent artwork or a “gone fishin'” sign?

    exactly[/quote]

    amen.

    i wish i still had all the stuff i did as a kid. none of it was nearly as all-encompassing as today’s entry (great work, btw), but it was a part of my youth that i look back upon fondly.

    seeing others’ early artwork takes me back to a simpler, more natural time. i remember spending hours making jerseys for our 3 on 2 baseball games (yup… only five of us — it was usually indians vs. orioles) then we’d customize the helmets we got at “helmet day” down at the old stadium. i also recall taking pennants down off my wall and tracing the outline of the football helmet so i could then create custom graphics for existing teams or imaginary ones (had some great pennants with old-school single and double-bar helmets). re-creating sports logos was an obsession for me as a kid and literally guided me to my chosen profession. so thanks, paul, for allowing regular guys to showcase the heart and creativity of youth.

  • Robert in Dallas | May 22, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”330556″][quote comment=”330545″][quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    http://i62.photobuck...
    I have no real problem with the red on red. Works for Cuba. http://www.uksport.g...

    Nah. It should be reserved for women’s softball games or the occasional Nebraska home football game.[/quote]

  • Robert in Dallas | May 22, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”330604″][quote comment=”330556″][quote comment=”330545″][quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    http://i62.photobuck...
    I have no real problem with the red on red. Works for Cuba. http://www.uksport.g...

    Nah. It should be reserved for women’s softball games or the occasional Nebraska home football game.[/quote][/quote]

    Let’s try this again.

    http://i62.photobuck...

  • SnowDan | May 22, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    I for one, loved the Outlaws logo. I don’t know if this is original or not, but it has great use of negative space.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • mike 2 | May 22, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”330585″][quote comment=”330572″][quote] on an entirely uni-related note, interpleague play starts tonight[/quote]

    fixed

    and, while im not the definitive answer on the subject…NO…i don’t believe any of the teams do anything special, uni wise, when they meet up in interplague

    *unless you count the mets wonderful one-shot last season in the final game at OYS where they donned blue caps…

    a look we mets fans have been pining for since the last century[/quote]

    When interplague play first started, the Phillies would wear a blue/red cap at home with a star in the middle of the P. They ditched that design when they introduced their outstanding alts. http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    That’s the one I was thinking of, thanks.

    I agree that interleague is played out as well. It was cool the first few times with the rivalry games (Oak-SF, NYY-NYM, Cubs-Sox) and oddities like the A’s playing in Philly again or the Braves playing in Boston again, but its been a long time since there’s been any excitement about any of the games.

  • Geeman | May 22, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”330605″][quote comment=”330604″][quote comment=”330556″][quote comment=”330545″][quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    http://i62.photobuck...
    I have no real problem with the red on red. Works for Cuba. http://www.uksport.g...

    Nah. It should be reserved for women’s softball games or the occasional Nebraska home football game.[/quote][/quote]

    Let’s try this again.

    http://i62.photobuck...

    Was that 1987 vs. Oklahoma? That’s the last time I remember seeing that.

  • Jeff | May 22, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”330596″][quote comment=”330594″]What makes interleague play a bigger farce is the forced ‘natural rivals’ for some teams. When interplay started the Phillies would play the Orioles. But now with the Natinals in the mix, MLB determined they and the O’s will be rivals and deemed the Phils’ rival to be the Blue Jays. What?!?!?! Because of one WS between the them nearly 20 years ago? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.[/quote]

    Boston/Phil should be the interleague rivalry here, but I’m sure Bud has a better idea.

    The true story is that SOMEONE is going to be screwed. There is just no interleague rivalry possible for Denver, or Detroit for that matter.[/quote]

    Well, yeah, that and there are more teams in the National League.

  • random reader | May 22, 2009 at 1:21 pm |

    While watching the Orioles-Yankees game, I snapped a shot of the old Orioles logo still being used on YES/My9 telecasts, as well as during other moments at Yankee Stadium.

    http://i43.tinypic.c...

    Seems like the Yankees had no idea they changed the logo.

  • James Craven | May 22, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    For those of you that get Big Ten Network, Purdue is paying an uneccessary tribute to our military with Padres-inspired camo jerseys.

    See the ESPN article for more.

  • hugh.c.mcbride | May 22, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    Followed the link in the last line of the article about William Moore wearing #25 for the Falcons & came across the following:

    In 2007, Russell Athletic and the Atlanta Falcons announced an agreement that includes title sponsorship of the team’s three-week preseason training camp at its in-season training facility in Flowery Branch, Ga. The four-year agreement designates Russell Athletic as an official sponsor of the Falcons.

    Other deal points include designating Russell Athletic as a preferred supplier of promotional apparel and premium items, presenting sponsor of all preseason games on WXIA-TV and their affiliates, plus radio spots during 20 Atlanta Falcons games on Falcons flagship radio station DaveFM, dominant signage presence throughout the interior of the Georgia Dome including a high-profile branded fan zone where fans will receive one-of-a-kind Russell Athletic apparel. Russell-branded products will also be available for purchase at all Falcons home games.

    “We are excited about our new partnership with Russell Athletic – one of the leading sports apparel companies in the country,” said Falcons Executive Vice President of Marketing Dick Sullivan.

    I realize this is somewhat old news (as the Falcons have been doing this for two years), but has this been addressed here (UW) before? And are other teams doing this?

  • joe | May 22, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    I hate the way they force “interleague week” just let them play the game normally. IF the NL central is playing the AL west, just have those teams play when they are on a normal road trip. there no need to make them all play at the same time. Cubs go out west and hit the dodgers, angels and SF. just drop them in the schedule like any other game.

  • hugh.c.mcbride | May 22, 2009 at 1:24 pm |

    To clarify: By \”are other teams doing this\” I am alluding to title sponsorships of training camp. The Falcons refer to training camp as Russell Falcons Training Camp.

  • shadoquad | May 22, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”330609″][quote comment=”330596″][quote comment=”330594″]What makes interleague play a bigger farce is the forced ‘natural rivals’ for some teams. When interplay started the Phillies would play the Orioles. But now with the Natinals in the mix, MLB determined they and the O’s will be rivals and deemed the Phils’ rival to be the Blue Jays. What?!?!?! Because of one WS between the them nearly 20 years ago? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.[/quote]

    Boston/Phil should be the interleague rivalry here, but I’m sure Bud has a better idea.

    The true story is that SOMEONE is going to be screwed. There is just no interleague rivalry possible for Denver, or Detroit for that matter.[/quote]

    Well, yeah, that and there are more teams in the National League.[/quote]

    Does that bother anyone but me? I admit a little OCD for symmetry, but it drives me nuts that the AL West and NL Central have unbalanced numbers of teams. I realize that it’s hard to justify a move back geographically, but I just don’t like it the way it is.

  • The Great | May 22, 2009 at 1:42 pm |

    love the art work – keep em comming

  • Jeff P | May 22, 2009 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”330610″]While watching the Orioles-Yankees game, I snapped a shot of the old Orioles logo still being used on YES/My9 telecasts, as well as during other moments at Yankee Stadium.

    http://i43.tinypic.c...

    Seems like the Yankees had no idea they changed the logo.[/quote]
    Or they thought the change was subtle enough that changing it wouldn’t justify the time and money spent to change the logo.

    Honestly, I doubt even most Os fans would notice.

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 1:44 pm |

    a day late for the artist softball team’s 173-2 opening game loss yesterday, but our stirrups came in today, youppi!!!! i ordered extras, any takers?

    bobbles will be in the mail by monday, but the post office will be closed, so make that tuesday. and they look purdy friggin good too.

    our mayday opener was rained out, but now rescheduled. anybody in chicagoland want to participate in opening day bags(cornhole) ceremonies? corn eating contest? maaaaybe. smoked brisket? maaaaaybe. tons of cheap beer? fo sho mutha scratchas. it will be on sunday sunday sunday, at 1. those familiar with pilsen, it will be in the gardens by the stage, those unfamiliar, rpmarshallart@gmaild..., i will get you here.

    paul, didn’t get to read yesterday’s post until today, um, fucking awesome. no other way to say it, sorry.

    okay everybody, you can get back to your regularly scheduled complaining now, make sure you make a useless comment about what a useless comment this was:)

  • Jeff | May 22, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    Actually we need a “I’m calling anything but what dumb company paid a measly sum compared to what the local tax payers and fans shelled out”

  • LI Phil | May 22, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”330615″][quote comment=”330609″]Well, yeah, that and there are more teams in the National League.[/quote]

    Does that bother anyone but me? I admit a little OCD for symmetry, but it drives me nuts that the AL West and NL Central have unbalanced numbers of teams. I realize that it’s hard to justify a move back geographically, but I just don’t like it the way it is.[/quote]

    i periodically beat this dead horse

    i’ve bitched and moaned for the 32 team league SINCE 1997 … perfect symmetry, like football…check out my comments and those that follow

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 1:49 pm |

    oops. might be still drunk from the game last night. bags are in the gardens by the stage, not at uniwatch link…
    http://maps.google.c...

  • The Great | May 22, 2009 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”330615″][quote comment=”330609″][quote comment=”330596″][quote comment=”330594″]What makes interleague play a bigger farce is the forced ‘natural rivals’ for some teams. When interplay started the Phillies would play the Orioles. But now with the Natinals in the mix, MLB determined they and the O’s will be rivals and deemed the Phils’ rival to be the Blue Jays. What?!?!?! Because of one WS between the them nearly 20 years ago? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.[/quote]

    Boston/Phil should be the interleague rivalry here, but I’m sure Bud has a better idea.

    The true story is that SOMEONE is going to be screwed. There is just no interleague rivalry possible for Denver, or Detroit for that matter.[/quote]

    Well, yeah, that and there are more teams in the National League.[/quote]

    Does that bother anyone but me? I admit a little OCD for symmetry, but it drives me nuts that the AL West and NL Central have unbalanced numbers of teams. I realize that it’s hard to justify a move back geographically, but I just don’t like it the way it is.[/quote]

    It needs to be unbalanced so that during non inter league play every team can be playing for a weekend, if you balanced it out, it would create an odd number, meaning one team would always have multiple days off in a row

  • ABowen | May 22, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    Doug Keklak, you’re from Johnstown? I coach football for Philipsburg-Osceola. If I’m not mistaken the Lewistown football team may use the exact same award decals on their helmets.

  • Brian | May 22, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”330571″][quote comment=”330547″]Can anyone give me some advice on tearing out the front liner on a New Era 59Fifty? As tools, I have an X-Acto blade and plenty of patience, but most of my haberdashing experience is with the Twins Franchise model of chapeau, which is a far easier lid to break in…[/quote]

    This is for the old style (wool) 59Fifty but it might help
    http://www.bugsandcr...
    Wonderful. Just wonderful. New Era switched from wonderful wool to polyester before the Rays rebranding last year, and now the only wool Rays caps I can find is the “Pinch Hitter” line, which is adjustable.

  • Robert in Dallas | May 22, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”330620″][quote comment=”330615″][quote comment=”330609″]Well, yeah, that and there are more teams in the National League.[/quote]

    Does that bother anyone but me? I admit a little OCD for symmetry, but it drives me nuts that the AL West and NL Central have unbalanced numbers of teams. I realize that it’s hard to justify a move back geographically, but I just don’t like it the way it is.[/quote]

    i periodically beat this dead horse

    i’ve bitched and moaned for the 32 team league SINCE 1997 … perfect symmetry, like football…check out my comments and those that follow[/quote]

    I will jump on the LI Phil bandwagon on this one. The unbalanced leagues alone make me crazy, but my bitterness really goes off the charts every time that I consider that my favorite team has to defeat five division rivals, while AL West teams need to beat out only three.

  • marc | May 22, 2009 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”330613″]I hate the way they force “interleague week” just let them play the game normally. IF the NL central is playing the AL west, just have those teams play when they are on a normal road trip. there no need to make them all play at the same time. Cubs go out west and hit the dodgers, angels and SF. just drop them in the schedule like any other game.[/quote]

    agreed. everything about interleague play is forced. it’s a novelty at best. i hate it and wish it would go away.

    i’m an indians fan. now i don’t know about other tribe fans, but i have absolutely no interest in the indians v. reds or pirates games. why? there’s nothing to gain or lose from it. it’s an artificial rivalry made to sell tickets… that it. home field in the world series? please. they should do it like the nba — team with the best record gets home field. period. mlb’s flip-flop home field rule is beyond stupid. now indians v. tigers or indians v. chisox is a rivalry. why? close geographic proximity, same league, same division. something to gain or lose.

    IMHO, some great rivalries were lost due to interleague play. i always felt the tribe had good inter-divisional rivalries with teams like the orioles, rangers and red sox. now those games feel watered down and ordinary.

  • Alex | May 22, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    If it counts if you did some pseudo teams on NCAA football 08 and Madden 08, I have a few good ones I made when I was pissed off after not being able to win the super bowl and the major college championships

    MADDEN 08

    One of my most ingenious creations was the Alcatraz Jailbirds, and on that team I put mostly guys who were violating Roger Goodell’s policies, and total jerks (Terrell Owens, Mike Vick, Pacman Jones, Chris Henry, Tank Johnson, etc.) Overall, they were a decent team.

    In NCAA football 08, I created the Moose County Community College Tigers, after the fictional college in my favorite book series (anyone familiar with the Cat Who… Books?) I took a few characters from the books and put them on the team, and named the stadium after the town founders. With that team, I won the Rose Bowl against Texas, while ranked #1.

    Not Intellivision, but close.

  • Oscar | May 22, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    When did Mississippi State adopt that secondary mark with the Bulldog? Looks silly, if you ask me, although not as silly as that secondary Tennessee mark with Smokey.

  • MPowers1634 | May 22, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    I am not looking forward to interleague play and i live in New York where 4 pretty good teams will be playing this weekend.

    They mean NOTHING to me anymore.

    I remember the first round of interleague play and how excited I was to watch Yankees/Mets.

    I was the summer between my sophomore and junior years in college and I was living alone and working what seemed to be 30 hour days up in Cape Cod.

    One night, i randomly turned on the tube and there was Bobby Murcer(sp) and my hoetown teams.
    Talk about a great feeling!

    No more do I enjoy these games that seem to be sleepwalked through.

  • jesse. | May 22, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”330560″][quote comment=”330559″][quote comment=”330544″]Instead of coming up with more “I’m calling it *stadium name*” shirts, how bout this…

    “I’m calling them *team name*” shirts. Like, “I’m calling them the Whale” for the Hurricanes, or “I’m calling them the Oilers” for Houston or Tennessee, or “I’m calling them the Expos” for the Natinals.

    Would those run into TM issues?[/quote]

    How about: “I’m calling them the Nationals”.[/quote][/quote]

    I know the last thing these guys need is another t-shirt idea but, “Can’t it be Clemente?”

  • Lwiedy | May 22, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    A little uni tidbit from the Big East Baseball Tournament. I asked the ND SID about the helmets. They do in fact use the gold paint. Just once at the beginning of the season.

  • LI Phil | May 22, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”330629″]I am not looking forward to interleague play and i live in New York where 4 pretty good teams will be playing this weekend.

    They mean NOTHING to me anymore.

    I remember the first round of interleague play and how excited I was to watch Yankees/Mets.

    I was the summer between my sophomore and junior years in college and I was living alone and working what seemed to be 30 hour days up in Cape Cod.

    One night, i randomly turned on the tube and there was Bobby Murcer(sp) and my hoetown teams.
    Talk about a great feeling!

    No more do I enjoy these games that seem to be sleepwalked through.[/quote]

    i hope you mean murce was announcing…cuz, um…he retired before interplague

  • Alex | May 22, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”330544″]”I’m calling them the Whale” for the Hurricanes [/quote]

    I would most definitely by one of those, even though I moved to CT after they moved

  • MPowers1634 | May 22, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”330632″][quote comment=”330629″]I am not looking forward to interleague play and i live in New York where 4 pretty good teams will be playing this weekend.

    They mean NOTHING to me anymore.

    I remember the first round of interleague play and how excited I was to watch Yankees/Mets.

    I was the summer between my sophomore and junior years in college and I was living alone and working what seemed to be 30 hour days up in Cape Cod.

    One night, i randomly turned on the tube and there was Bobby Murcer(sp) and my hoetown teams.
    Talk about a great feeling!

    No more do I enjoy these games that seem to be sleepwalked through.[/quote]

    i hope you mean murce was announcing…cuz, um…he retired before interplague[/quote]

    Yes, Phil…it was 1997.

  • Matt Brosseau | May 22, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”330618″]a day late for the artist softball team’s 173-2 opening game loss yesterday, but our stirrups came in today, youppi!!!! i ordered extras, any takers?[/quote]

    You have hose-related e-mail, Rob.

  • MPowers1634 | May 22, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”330633″][quote comment=”330544″]”I’m calling them the Whale” for the Hurricanes [/quote]

    I would most definitely by one of those, even though I moved to CT after they moved[/quote]

    Question about those tees…With the Shea tees, you can use the team colors.

    With the Whalers/Hurrican tee, would it be green/blue or red/black?

    That idea reminds me of a Yale shirt that had the Harvard crest and color scheme:

    Harvard…because everyone can”t get into Yale

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 2:21 pm |

    i am apparently, as my mama often told me, a half-wit, because i can’t figure out google maps, if you are in chicago and want to bag sunday afternoon, google map 822 w. 19th st., there is a beautiful garden area next to an ornate stage, we will be the ass clowns gettin gassed, and eating brisket. if you have any questions contact me

    okay, you can get back to the 32 team league debate.

  • Matt Brosseau | May 22, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”330636″]
    With the Whalers/Hurrican tee, would it be green/blue or red/black?
    [/quote]

    Believe it would be more effective in red and black, with a red and black version of the Whale Tail logo. This way, you make it clear that although you’ve accepted the fact that they’ve moved on to (ack) North Carolina, you’ll never think of them as the Hurricanes.

    Just my 2c there.

  • DenverGregg | May 22, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”330600″]”There is just no interleague rivalry possible for Denver, or Detroit for that matter.”

    So let the Rockies and Tigers play every year. Have Red Wings and Avalanche players to throw out the first pitches for the first few games. Remind folks (players included) that there is at least a bit of a rivalry between the markets, if not the teams. A couple years of that, and of playing one another, and some enmity would build up, I think.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’m not a fan of interleague, but the Bronco-born rivalry with Oakland is probably more heated for more people. That plus the late-seventies near miss on Charlie O’s team becoming either the Denver A’s or, as the local media was pushing, Denver Orange Sox.

  • MPowers1634 | May 22, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”330638″][quote comment=”330636″]
    With the Whalers/Hurrican tee, would it be green/blue or red/black?
    [/quote]

    Believe it would be more effective in red and black, with a red and black version of the Whale Tail logo. This way, you make it clear that although you’ve accepted the fact that they’ve moved on to (ack) North Carolina, you’ll never think of them as the Hurricanes.

    Just my 2c there.[/quote]

    I once saw a tee on the USC team shop site that was kelly green with gold text that simply read:

    4th and 9! Ouch!

  • Jeremy Brahm | May 22, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    Check out these photos from Home Run Derby today.

    http://homerderby.co...

  • Jeff | May 22, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”330639″][quote comment=”330600″]”There is just no interleague rivalry possible for Denver, or Detroit for that matter.”

    So let the Rockies and Tigers play every year. Have Red Wings and Avalanche players to throw out the first pitches for the first few games. Remind folks (players included) that there is at least a bit of a rivalry between the markets, if not the teams. A couple years of that, and of playing one another, and some enmity would build up, I think.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’m not a fan of interleague, but the Bronco-born rivalry with Oakland is probably more heated for more people. That plus the late-seventies near miss on Charlie O’s team becoming either the Denver A’s or, as the local media was pushing, Denver Orange Sox.[/quote]

    More info about the Orange Sox, please! And for the love of God, please tell me somebody did prototypes for these unis.

    I’ve never heard this before. So intriguing.

  • MPowers1634 | May 22, 2009 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”330641″]Check out these photos from Home Run Derby today.

    http://homerderby.co...

    I played against an outstanding ballplayer whose last name was Beer.

  • Geeman | May 22, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”330640″][quote comment=”330638″][quote comment=”330636″]
    With the Whalers/Hurrican tee, would it be green/blue or red/black?
    [/quote]

    Believe it would be more effective in red and black, with a red and black version of the Whale Tail logo. This way, you make it clear that although you’ve accepted the fact that they’ve moved on to (ack) North Carolina, you’ll never think of them as the Hurricanes.

    Just my 2c there.[/quote]

    I once saw a tee on the USC team shop site that was kelly green with gold text that simply read:

    4th and 9! Ouch![/quote]

    Yeah, but how many years in a row did Notre Dame beat USC? It wasn’t much of a rivalry between the early 1980s and early 2000s.

  • Geeman | May 22, 2009 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”330620″][quote comment=”330615″][quote comment=”330609″]Well, yeah, that and there are more teams in the National League.[/quote]

    Does that bother anyone but me? I admit a little OCD for symmetry, but it drives me nuts that the AL West and NL Central have unbalanced numbers of teams. I realize that it’s hard to justify a move back geographically, but I just don’t like it the way it is.[/quote]

    i periodically beat this dead horse

    i’ve bitched and moaned for the 32 team league SINCE 1997 … perfect symmetry, like football…check out my comments and those that follow[/quote]

    Move the Brew Crew back to the A.L. and you have two 15-team leagues, with three five-team divisions. In the standings that are in my head the Brewers are still in the A.L. East anyway (the original A.L. East).

    Move K.C. to the A.L. West (where they finished first or second every years for about 10-15 years).

  • LarryB | May 22, 2009 at 2:53 pm |

    Pirates make Nats walk plank.

    1925 World Series. Everybody wearing hats.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

  • timmy b | May 22, 2009 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”330623″]Doug Keklak, you’re from Johnstown? I coach football for Philipsburg-Osceola. If I’m not mistaken the Lewistown football team may use the exact same award decals on their helmets.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”330623″]Doug Keklak, you’re from Johnstown? I coach football for Philipsburg-Osceola. If I’m not mistaken the Lewistown football team may use the exact same award decals on their helmets.[/quote]

    I’m originally from Huntingdon, PA. Home of the mighty Bearcats!!

  • marc | May 22, 2009 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”330646″]Pirates make Nats walk plank.

    1925 World Series. Everybody wearing hats.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    maybe i’m ignorant, but in 1925, who were the nats? shouldn’t it be senators?

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    hey shitbirds~
    here is an idear, i think we need a stirrvp clvb. the min order on TCK stirrvps is 12 or 15, and we can order them through paul’s advertiser. so we get that many people together, everybody chooses a stirrvp, and we order, and share sed stirrvps with the other members of the clvb. for instance my choice would be the old oriole stirrvp in a 4″. maybe yov like that one maybe yov don’t, with 15 people we won’t like them all, bvt we will have the bestest fucking stirrvp collection ever, no? and stirrvp fridays, for those who observe, will be better then ever. who the fvck wants in on this greatest idea of all times? i am not saying expanding mlb isn’t brilliant, but i am thinking i just came up with the greatest idea since sani’s were invented to perevent vs all from diein’ of dye. contact me

  • Lee | May 22, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”330649″][quote comment=”330646″]Pirates make Nats walk plank.

    1925 World Series. Everybody wearing hats.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    maybe i’m ignorant, but in 1925, who were the nats? shouldn’t it be senators?[/quote]

    A nickname (along the same thing as calling the Pirates, the “Bucs”)

    Lee

  • marc | May 22, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”330651″][quote comment=”330649″][quote comment=”330646″]Pirates make Nats walk plank.

    1925 World Series. Everybody wearing hats.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    maybe i’m ignorant, but in 1925, who were the nats? shouldn’t it be senators?[/quote]

    A nickname (along the same thing as calling the Pirates, the “Bucs”)

    Lee[/quote]

    i always thought their nickname was “sens,” no? i just assumed the photo was labeled incorrectly at shorpy by someone who thought nationals was always the washington team’s name. i wonder if the senators were ever the “sentors?”

  • tep | May 22, 2009 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”330566″]The Boston Massacre was always one of my go-to names for all the backyard sports I played with my brothers. I’ve always thought that was a great name. If the Boston teams weren’t all so darn historic maybe we could get one of them to change[/quote]

    There is a Boston Massacre roller derby team:

    http://www.bostonder...

  • Lee | May 22, 2009 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”330652″][quote comment=”330651″][quote comment=”330649″][quote comment=”330646″]Pirates make Nats walk plank.

    1925 World Series. Everybody wearing hats.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    maybe i’m ignorant, but in 1925, who were the nats? shouldn’t it be senators?[/quote]

    A nickname (along the same thing as calling the Pirates, the “Bucs”)

    Lee[/quote]

    i always thought their nickname was “sens,” no? i just assumed the photo was labeled incorrectly at shorpy by someone who thought nationals was always the washington team’s name. i wonder if the senators were ever the “sentors?”[/quote]

    Check it out: http://www.sportsecy...
    “Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.”

    Lee

  • dgc | May 22, 2009 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”330649″][quote comment=”330646″]Pirates make Nats walk plank.

    1925 World Series. Everybody wearing hats.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    maybe i’m ignorant, but in 1925, who were the nats? shouldn’t it be senators?[/quote]
    IIRC the Washington baseball club was called both the Nationals and the Senators. The Washington Post had a picture once of various papers after the 1924 WS and some papers used Senators and some used Nats.

  • ABowen | May 22, 2009 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=\”330648\”]
    I\’m originally from Huntingdon, PA. Home of the mighty Bearcats!![/quote]

    There\’s quite a few central PA\’ers on here! We had a close one against Huntingdon last year…and they ended up coming out on top, 42-28 I believe. They had a nice looking bunch last year!

  • Lee | May 22, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”330654″][quote comment=”330652″][quote comment=”330651″][quote comment=”330649″][quote comment=”330646″]Pirates make Nats walk plank.

    1925 World Series. Everybody wearing hats.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    maybe i’m ignorant, but in 1925, who were the nats? shouldn’t it be senators?[/quote]

    A nickname (along the same thing as calling the Pirates, the “Bucs”)

    Lee[/quote]

    i always thought their nickname was “sens,” no? i just assumed the photo was labeled incorrectly at shorpy by someone who thought nationals was always the washington team’s name. i wonder if the senators were ever the “sentors?”[/quote]

    Check it out: http://www.sportsecy...
    “Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.”

    Lee[/quote]

    From the same website I cited: “1956: After more then 50 years of insisting the team was officially called the Nationals the team finally change its nickname to the more commonly called Senators. The name change does not do anything to save the sinking ship that is Washington Baseball as the club finishes with another woeful 59-95 record, while finishing in seventh Place.”

    Interesting. I knew that Nationals/Senators was at one time used interchangeably, I didn’t realize it was long and persisted so late.

    Lee

  • LI Phil | May 22, 2009 at 3:33 pm |

    in 1905 the washington ballclub not only was ‘nicknamed’ the nationals, they were the first ever club to wear a nickname on their jersey

  • marc | May 22, 2009 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”330657″][quote comment=”330654″][quote comment=”330652″][quote comment=”330651″][quote comment=”330649″][quote comment=”330646″]Pirates make Nats walk plank.

    1925 World Series. Everybody wearing hats.

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    maybe i’m ignorant, but in 1925, who were the nats? shouldn’t it be senators?[/quote]

    A nickname (along the same thing as calling the Pirates, the “Bucs”)

    Lee[/quote]

    i always thought their nickname was “sens,” no? i just assumed the photo was labeled incorrectly at shorpy by someone who thought nationals was always the washington team’s name. i wonder if the senators were ever the “sentors?”[/quote]

    Check it out: http://www.sportsecy...
    “Nickname:
    After the 1899 season, the Washington Senators of the National League folded in the 12-8 contraction, when the American League began play in 1901 Washington, not wanting to confuse fans with the previous franchise, began calling themselves the Nationals in 1905. However, the fans never took to the name and called them the Senators. In 1912, when Griffith was named manager, newspaper writers referred to them as the ‘Grifs’. In the early 1950s the team changed logos to one incorporating ‘NATIONALS’ within it, after the fans continued to reject the name they were officially renamed Senators in 1956.”

    Lee[/quote]

    From the same website I cited: “1956: After more then 50 years of insisting the team was officially called the Nationals the team finally change its nickname to the more commonly called Senators. The name change does not do anything to save the sinking ship that is Washington Baseball as the club finishes with another woeful 59-95 record, while finishing in seventh Place.”

    Interesting. I knew that Nationals/Senators was at one time used interchangeably, I didn’t realize it was long and persisted so late.

    Lee[/quote]

    looking back on my initial question, i guess i was ignorant. ;-) thanks, lee, for the history lesson!

  • Lee | May 22, 2009 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”330659″]
    looking back on my initial question, i guess i was ignorant. ;-) thanks, lee, for the history lesson![/quote]

    I am glad you asked, I learned something new as well!

    Lee

  • LI Phil | May 22, 2009 at 3:44 pm |
  • Michael Emody | May 22, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    There’s not a natural rivalry between Philadelphia and Toronto? Don’t you know the Blue Jays played in both cities?
    (Couldn’t resist!)

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    re:stirrups
    seriously, no takers on getting a syrupy sweet package like this in the mail? oh, wait, this.

  • DenverGregg | May 22, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”330642″][quote comment=”330639″][quote comment=”330600″]”There is just no interleague rivalry possible for Denver, or Detroit for that matter.”

    So let the Rockies and Tigers play every year. Have Red Wings and Avalanche players to throw out the first pitches for the first few games. Remind folks (players included) that there is at least a bit of a rivalry between the markets, if not the teams. A couple years of that, and of playing one another, and some enmity would build up, I think.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I’m not a fan of interleague, but the Bronco-born rivalry with Oakland is probably more heated for more people. That plus the late-seventies near miss on Charlie O’s team becoming either the Denver A’s or, as the local media was pushing, Denver Orange Sox.[/quote]

    More info about the Orange Sox, please! And for the love of God, please tell me somebody did prototypes for these unis.

    I’ve never heard this before. So intriguing.[/quote]
    There’s a newspaper mention of the potential sale here, but it’s not local and didn’t mention the Orange Sox campaign. Funny these days to think that it was only about a million dollars that kept it from happening.

    I vaguely remember seeing a sketch on local TV news — must have been KMGH at the folks’ house that long ago — but I haven’t seen anything about Orange Sox mockups since 1978.

  • DenverGregg | May 22, 2009 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”330663″]re:stirrups
    seriously, no takers on getting a syrupy sweet package like this in the mail? oh, wait, this.[/quote]
    What’s a pair go for? I normally don’t wear that much red, but they could be good to wear to Rapids or Avs games.

  • mike 2 | May 22, 2009 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”330665″][quote comment=”330663″]re:stirrups
    seriously, no takers on getting a syrupy sweet package like this in the mail? oh, wait, this.[/quote]
    What’s a pair go for? I normally don’t wear that much red, but they could be good to wear to Rapids or Avs games.[/quote]

    Nice – I was thinking Aston Villa.

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    need to figure it, not trying to profit, just figured some people might want a pair. not to mention you will be wearing the official colours of the unofficial uw chicago branch softball team. they were 7 plus shipping, but i can just throw the pair into your bobble box, so no additional shipping, so 8/9 bucks roughly.

  • DenverGregg | May 22, 2009 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”330667″]need to figure it, not trying to profit, just figured some people might want a pair. not to mention you will be wearing the official colours of the unofficial uw chicago branch softball team. they were 7 plus shipping, but i can just throw the pair into your bobble box, so no additional shipping, so 8/9 bucks roughly.[/quote]
    Nine bucks works. Thanks and enjoy the holiday weekend.

  • =bg= | May 22, 2009 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”330541″][quote comment=”330536″]I want “I’m calling it Riverfront” shirts for the Reds fans.[/quote]

    I keep trying to imagine what…
    “I’m calling it
    Oakland Alameda County Stadium Complex”
    would look like.

    Would be tough to read.
    But funny.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I never called it Cinergy Field. Not once. And they slapped huge neon signs, 4 of ’em on there. It had been there like 27 years when they changed the name. No one cared.

  • random reader | May 22, 2009 at 5:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”330645″]

    Move the Brew Crew back to the A.L. and you have two 15-team leagues, with three five-team divisions. In the standings that are in my head the Brewers are still in the A.L. East anyway (the original A.L. East).

    Move K.C. to the A.L. West (where they finished first or second every years for about 10-15 years).[/quote]

    When the 14 teams in each league play a series, you want the remaining idle teams to play interleague against each other?

    Having an even number of teams in each league would work in the NBA or NHL since not everyone will be playing every day. The schedules are staggered so some teams will be idle while others play.

    But with baseball having series and having teams play pretty much every day, it gets more complicated. The NL has to have 16 teams just so that there will always be an intraleague series happening somewhere. You can either expand the AL to 16 teams or do some contracting so that both leagues have 14 teams.

    Or have the scheduling totally revamped so that the teams would have an 81-game season similar to that of the NBA or NHL, where there aren’t any more 2-game or 3-game or 4-game series in a week. Then having 15 teams per league could work.

  • tosaman | May 22, 2009 at 6:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    I hope the UW-Madison trademark attorneys don’t see this photo!

    http://www.siouxcity...

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 6:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”330671″][quote comment=”330527″]Nebraska played it state baseball championships yesterday. Omaha Westside went red on red and is it painful to look at.

    Click at your own risk.

    http://www.omaha.com...

    I hope the UW-Madison trademark attorneys don’t see this photo!

    http://www.siouxcity...

    despite the crappy motion w hat, and i know i like what others don’t, but the red on red is a fucking fantastic olde olde school look, and that 70’s collar era white sox number font is superb. sorry, but i give it a thumbs up. feel free to tell me i am a half-wit, but i think they look great.

  • Valjean | May 22, 2009 at 6:53 pm |

    [quote comment=\”330669\”][quote comment=\”330541\”][quote comment=\”330536\”]I want “I’m calling it Riverfront” shirts for the Reds fans.[/quote]

    I keep trying to imagine what…
    “I’m calling it
    Oakland Alameda County Stadium Complex”
    would look like.

    Would be tough to read.
    But funny.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I never called it Cinergy Field. Not once. And they slapped huge neon signs, 4 of ’em on there. It had been there like 27 years when they changed the name. No one cared.[/quote]

    Good for you. And I like Ricko’s amusing point, but for the couple of decades I went to A’s and Raider’s games, the ballpark in Oakland was — and continues to be — “the Coliseum”. (God knows what they’re trying to call it now.) For longtime fans it just stuck — even after “Mount Davis” was added. A T-Shirt would be fun but in this case not terribly necessary. The real way to win this fight against the name-changing dipsticks is to keep using the name you want. I’ve actually found the more times they change it, the more it stays the same …

    And apparently it was too bad back in the fifties no one did up a shirt of “I’m calling Them The Nationals”.

  • Max | May 22, 2009 at 7:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”330535″]If it was DIY/young art five days a week I’d say there would be a legit gripe but I think Paul is doing a good job of spreading things out.[/quote]

    Lately, 4 out of the last 7 days and 7 times out of 16 non-weekend articles in May.

    Just giving the facts.

    I don’t care for them either. But if you want to, that’s OK by me.

  • Dwayne | May 22, 2009 at 7:33 pm |

    I still want a shirt that says:

    “I’m calling it The Suncoast Dome.” or

    “I’m calling it The Thunderdome.”

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 7:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”330674″][quote comment=”330535″]If it was DIY/young art five days a week I’d say there would be a legit gripe but I think Paul is doing a good job of spreading things out.[/quote]

    Lately, 4 out of the last 7 days and 7 times out of 16 non-weekend articles in May.

    Just giving the facts.

    I don’t care for them either. But if you want to, that’s OK by me.[/quote]

    how bout this then…
    screw you, you don’t get to decide shit when it comes to what is posted. is thjat better ass-clown?

  • =bg= | May 22, 2009 at 7:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”330529″]Looking for a confirmation now, but if the Dallas Cowboys new 60 yard 400 Million dollar scoreboard is only 90 feet off the ground…(the avg. punt is 80-85 feet high)….I bet the NFL is not going to be happy creating a stupid ground rule just for the Cowboys…anyone have info on this?[/quote]

    This is a screenshot of a live webcam inside the stadium- i have watched it for awhile now and it’s cool to see the progress. It does seem pretty close down to the field.

    http://img.photobuck...

  • Mike Engle | May 22, 2009 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”330666″][quote comment=”330665″][quote comment=”330663″]re:stirrups
    seriously, no takers on getting a syrupy sweet package like this in the mail? oh, wait, this.[/quote]
    What’s a pair go for? I normally don’t wear that much red, but they could be good to wear to Rapids or Avs games.[/quote]

    Nice – I was thinking Aston Villa.[/quote]
    Wow, I want a pair of those in the worst way. I actually have a pair of shorts that would match that perfectly.

  • Danno | May 22, 2009 at 8:41 pm |

    Not a fan in the least of grade school artwork, but not going to complain(unless u count this as complaining)

    But todays was pretty darn in depth it appeared, so at least thats impresssive.

  • mike 2 | May 22, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    I asked earlier today if any teams were doing anything special for interleague play.

    The Jays are wearing their black alts in Atlanta today. Its the first time this year they’ve worn them other than for home day games.
    (incidentally, they’re 9-0 wearing them this year).

    Don’t know if this is an interleague thing, or if the trend so far was just a coincidence.

  • Max | May 22, 2009 at 10:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”330676″][quote comment=”330674″][quote comment=”330535″]If it was DIY/young art five days a week I’d say there would be a legit gripe but I think Paul is doing a good job of spreading things out.[/quote]

    Lately, 4 out of the last 7 days and 7 times out of 16 non-weekend articles in May.

    Just giving the facts.

    I don’t care for them either. But if you want to, that’s OK by me.[/quote]

    how bout this then…
    screw you, you don’t get to decide shit when it comes to what is posted. is thjat better ass-clown?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”330676″][quote comment=”330674″][quote comment=”330535″]If it was DIY/young art five days a week I’d say there would be a legit gripe but I think Paul is doing a good job of spreading things out.[/quote]

    Lately, 4 out of the last 7 days and 7 times out of 16 non-weekend articles in May.

    Just giving the facts.

    I don’t care for them either. But if you want to, that’s OK by me.[/quote]

    how bout this then…
    screw you, you don’t get to decide shit when it comes to what is posted. is thjat better ass-clown?[/quote]

    Dude, you need to grow a thicker skin.

    All I was doing was stating statistical facts about the issue.

    In case you need a course on reading comprehension, I said I didn’t care for the DIY posts, but it was OK if everybody else did.

    Is that clear enough for you?

    Now run along now little man, adults are talking…

  • u2-horn | May 22, 2009 at 10:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”330547″]Can anyone give me some advice on tearing out the front liner on a New Era 59Fifty? As tools, I have an X-Acto blade and plenty of patience, but most of my haberdashing experience is with the Twins Franchise model of chapeau, which is a far easier lid to break in…[/quote]

    I did it on a Rangers 70s throwback I bought last week–I had great success using cuticle scissors.

    http://www.manicure4...

  • =bg= | May 22, 2009 at 10:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”330682″][quote comment=”330547″]Can anyone give me some advice on tearing out the front liner on a New Era 59Fifty? As tools, I have an X-Acto blade and plenty of patience, but most of my haberdashing experience is with the Twins Franchise model of chapeau, which is a far easier lid to break in…[/quote]

    I did it on a Rangers 70s throwback I bought last week–I had great success using cuticle scissors.

    http://www.manicure4...

    where can you get a rangers 70s throwback? like the red blue with block T?

  • rpm | May 22, 2009 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”330681″][quote comment=”330676″][quote comment=”330674″][quote comment=”330535″]If it was DIY/young art five days a week I’d say there would be a legit gripe but I think Paul is doing a good job of spreading things out.[/quote]

    Lately, 4 out of the last 7 days and 7 times out of 16 non-weekend articles in May.

    Just giving the facts.

    I don’t care for them either. But if you want to, that’s OK by me.[/quote]

    how bout this then…
    screw you, you don’t get to decide shit when it comes to what is posted. is thjat better ass-clown?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”330676″][quote comment=”330674″][quote comment=”330535″]If it was DIY/young art five days a week I’d say there would be a legit gripe but I think Paul is doing a good job of spreading things out.[/quote]

    Lately, 4 out of the last 7 days and 7 times out of 16 non-weekend articles in May.

    Just giving the facts.

    I don’t care for them either. But if you want to, that’s OK by me.[/quote]

    how bout this then…
    screw you, you don’t get to decide shit when it comes to what is posted. is thjat better ass-clown?[/quote]

    Dude, you need to grow a thicker skin.

    All I was doing was stating statistical facts about the issue.

    In case you need a course on reading comprehension, I said I didn’t care for the DIY posts, but it was OK if everybody else did.

    Is that clear enough for you?

    Now run along now little man, adults are talking…[/quote]
    i understand what you are saying pops, but you are still bitching about the content of a blog. and to think that you actually keep track of how many diy’s have been posted this month is unreal. okay, i will let you get back to your adult conversations about sports uniforms.
    hugs and kisses,
    little man

  • rpm | May 23, 2009 at 12:10 am |

    [quote comment=”330683″][quote comment=”330682″][quote comment=”330547″]Can anyone give me some advice on tearing out the front liner on a New Era 59Fifty? As tools, I have an X-Acto blade and plenty of patience, but most of my haberdashing experience is with the Twins Franchise model of chapeau, which is a far easier lid to break in…[/quote]

    I did it on a Rangers 70s throwback I bought last week–I had great success using cuticle scissors.

    http://www.manicure4...

    where can you get a rangers 70s throwback? like the red blue with block T?[/quote]
    cut a small hole in the inside mesh, but be careful not to pierce the hat. then use something like a file to separate the mesh from the hat. you can then cut off the mesh. when done use a pair of tweezers, or your teeth, to pull out the plastic “thorns” left behind. if this isn’t clear, it will be when you have at it. after that dunk the hat in water, and put on your head to dry. it will shrink to your head and loose its trucker cap quality. that is how you doctor a 59/50

  • Matt Brosseau | May 23, 2009 at 12:12 am |

    [quote comment=”330683″]

    where can you get a rangers 70s throwback? like the red blue with block T?[/quote]

    I use Lids/Hatworld and they’ve never let me down. If you live near a store you can have them ship it there for free, which is good because the hats are a little pricey, but there are some real throwback gems to be had.

    Your Whitey/Billy Texas Rangers

  • Matt Brosseau | May 23, 2009 at 12:14 am |

    Criminy. The Texas Rangers link:

    http://www.lids.com/...

  • Morty | May 23, 2009 at 12:30 am |

    [quote comment=”330673″]
    Good for you. And I like Ricko’s amusing point, but for the couple of decades I went to A’s and Raider’s games, the ballpark in Oakland was — and continues to be — “the Coliseum”. (God knows what they’re trying to call it now.)[/quote]

    Would you believe:

    “Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum”?

    It was “Network Associates Coliseum” from 1998 to 2004, then “McAfee Coliseum” until last year. McAfee didn’t renew the naming rights this year, and Lewis Wolff seems more interested in getting taxpayers to build building Cisco Field, so OACC it is.

    Now if they could just blow up Mount Davis …

  • Max | May 23, 2009 at 2:30 am |

    [quote comment=”330684″]
    i understand what you are saying pops, but you are still bitching about the content of a blog. and to think that you actually keep track of how many diy’s have been posted this month is unreal. okay, i will let you get back to your adult conversations about sports uniforms.
    hugs and kisses,
    little man[/quote]

    Go back to sitting in your Mom’s basement in your underwear and being an “internet super-hero”.

  • rpm | May 23, 2009 at 3:25 am |

    [quote comment=”330689″][quote comment=”330684″]
    i understand what you are saying pops, but you are still bitching about the content of a blog. and to think that you actually keep track of how many diy’s have been posted this month is unreal. okay, i will let you get back to your adult conversations about sports uniforms.
    hugs and kisses,
    little man[/quote]

    Go back to sitting in your Mom’s basement in your underwear and being an “internet super-hero”.[/quote]

    you must have me confused with someone else. i am quite certain i am no superhero, and i for sure do not live in my mother’s basement, i just make art, which you can like or not, and that is your choice, i honestly could give a shit . and that goes for the other people’s work who you obviously do not appreciate. like it or not, thanks or no thanks, we do not give a rats ass about what you have to say, you obviously do not “get it” in the same way. not that you don’t “get i”t, just in a different way, which is all cool if you don’t bitch, but you are a fuck-nut who cries about content, and keeps post %, so i guess you suck eggs more or less. but as far as the posts go, i just call a spade a spade, so i am calling you an ass-bag, because, well, you my friend are an ass-bag. i don’t even know what an ass-bag is, but i guarantee you are one.

    what paul/phil chooses to post is what paul/phil chooses to post, and if your brain-pan can not wrap itself around that, well then quite frankly you can cram it with walnuts. i personally enjoy some parts of this site more then others, but i would never tell anybody how to do their business because we are all different people with different interests who seek out a free site with the musings of 2 bloaks, forgive them if they don’t write the site for you. essentially, fuck the hell off.

  • Mike Calagna | May 23, 2009 at 3:31 am |

    What an awful uni combo in washington….

    http://insider.espn....

  • Michael | May 23, 2009 at 4:53 am |

    [quote comment=\”330690\”][quote comment=\”330689\”][quote comment=\”330684\”]
    i understand what you are saying pops, but you are still bitching about the content of a blog. and to think that you actually keep track of how many diy\’s have been posted this month is unreal. okay, i will let you get back to your adult conversations about sports uniforms.
    hugs and kisses,
    little man[/quote]

    Go back to sitting in your Mom\’s basement in your underwear and being an \”internet super-hero\”.[/quote]

    you must have me confused with someone else. i am quite certain i am no superhero, and i for sure do not live in my mother\’s basement, i just make art, which you can like or not, and that is your choice, i honestly could give a shit . and that goes for the other people\’s work who you obviously do not appreciate. like it or not, thanks or no thanks, we do not give a rats ass about what you have to say, you obviously do not \”get it\” in the same way. not that you don\’t \”get i\”t, just in a different way, which is all cool if you don\’t bitch, but you are a fuck-nut who cries about content, and keeps post %, so i guess you suck eggs more or less. but as far as the posts go, i just call a spade a spade, so i am calling you an ass-bag, because, well, you my friend are an ass-bag. i don\’t even know what an ass-bag is, but i guarantee you are one.

    what paul/phil chooses to post is what paul/phil chooses to post, and if your brain-pan can not wrap itself around that, well then quite frankly you can cram it with walnuts. i personally enjoy some parts of this site more then others, but i would never tell anybody how to do their business because we are all different people with different interests who seek out a free site with the musings of 2 bloaks, forgive them if they don\’t write the site for you. essentially, fuck the hell off.[/quote]
    Jesus man…your lucky your friends w/Paul, cause if you weren’t I would be willing to bet you’d be blocked from the site. Just because you happen to be one of the more involved/important people here doesn’t give you the right to go off like that.

  • u2-horn | May 25, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”330683″][quote comment=”330682″][quote comment=”330547″]Can anyone give me some advice on tearing out the front liner on a New Era 59Fifty? As tools, I have an X-Acto blade and plenty of patience, but most of my haberdashing experience is with the Twins Franchise model of chapeau, which is a far easier lid to break in…[/quote]

    I did it on a Rangers 70s throwback I bought last week–I had great success using cuticle scissors.

    http://www.manicure4...

    where can you get a rangers 70s throwback? like the red blue with block T?[/quote]

    hey bg, sorry to have missed your question. I bought mine at the Texas Rangers ticket office/fan shop in downtown Dallas.

    But yeah, it’s a fitted New Era 5950:

    http://farm4.static....

  • Hockey Page | May 30, 2009 at 5:10 pm |

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