Patriot Games

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Last month I posted this entry about the origins of the Patriots’ first uni design. That entry featured the text of a letter from Pats owner Billy Sullivan to fan/designer Walter Pingree, including the following passage: “I think you will be happy to learn that the Boston Globe is taking a color picture of one of our players wearing the new uniform, and it will appear before long in that fine publication.”

That caught the eye of reader Harold Mellor, who works at the Globe on the business side. He wasn’t able to find the photo Sullivan was referring to, but he did find something else of historical interest. Here’s his report:

I was able to coerce our Content Licensing Manager to let me have at the Globe’s photo library for 30 minutes over lunch one day last week. Not having anything to do with the editorial side of the house, I don’t often find myself on that side of the building. With a newspaper like the Globe being around for 100+ years, they have an amazing trove of stuff in their library (when I was in there I overheard someone say “I need the folder with the Beatles Suffolk Downs shots”).

While I was digging around the Patriots folders, I did find something pretty cool: the original Boston Evening Globe page from 2/17/60 with Pat Bissell’s original Pat Patriot cartoon.

The rest of the page is super, too. Who would have thought the Globe would still be writing about the Braves in 1960, eight years after they’d left for Milwaukee? And the article is about Hank Aaron playing second base!

Great stuff. It’s interesting to see how few liberties were taken with Pat P. when he was turned into a logo. And yes, it’s amazing that the Braves were still getting heavy play in the Boston papers as late as 1960, especially since Beantown still had another baseball team. Is anyone aware of any similar examples of local media outlets following a departed team so many years after the fact?

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A ton of work that was totally worth it: Check out Kirsten looking all proud, happy, and sexy at our Candela Structures exhibit opening on Saturday night. It was a great evening, and a nice culmination to all the work we’d done over the past eight months. Lots of additional pics, all taken by Kirsten, here.

(There was even a uni-related moment when a guy named Tommy Moorman showed up wearing an A’s cap without the apostrophe-s. When I asked him about it, he said, “I’m about to move to Oakland, but I’m originally from Atlanta, so this is my shout-out to my hometown.” Upon closer inspection, you can see that he actually tore out the apostrophe-s stitching, leaving teeny little holes where light now shines through.)

The show will remain on view Saturdays and Sundays through June 28th at the City Reliquary. We’ll be putting lots of additional info on our Candela web site in a few days.

My thanks to the many of you who had nice things to say about Friday’s New York Times article about our project. Turns out they also included us in their weekly “This Week in Pictures” rundown — cool.

Uni Watch News Ticker: As many of you know by now, the Mets have been conducting a uniform survey. … Repeated from Phil’s weekend notes: You know about football QBs wearing armbands that double as play-calling cribsheets, but I’d never seen a baseball version of that until now. Details here (with thanks to Roger Faso). … Nice job by Andrew Weinberg, who scanned a bunch of pages from the 1975 MLB All-Star Game program. … Early pit-stain panels! Brian Codagnone recently saw that photo of Lefty Grove for sale at Fenway Park. … Bizarre shoe malfunction at a recent Marksvlle High School spring scrimmage (with thanks to Chris LaHaye). … Very nice striped stirrups being worn by Florida State (with thanks to David Ward). … Jeremy Brahm reports that the whole “pink for Mother’s Day” thing has spread to Japan. One guy even used a white bat with pink graphics. … Small item buried on this page: “The Brewers are only wearing the ‘retro’ jerseys on the first Friday of every month, and the players aren’t complaining. They don’t really like the getups. Rumor has it that in the reasonably near future the team may switch back to a road jersey that says ‘Milwaukee'” (with thanks to Nicole Haase). … Neil deMause sent along this photo from the 8/23/15 edition of The Brooklyn Eagle. He notes that the team’s “SI” logo could easily be interpreted as another symbol and adds, “A team ahead of its time, clearly.” … Jeff Barak has started a new hockey jersey blog. … The controversy regarding the Lions possibly having worn gold helmets in 1953 (and/or in other years) continues. Helmet Hut historian Jim Parker says no. But Larry Bodnovich provided these screen shots from a 1953 game. Sure looks gold to me. Miller insists that these were all clear helmets that were painted silver on the inside and then the clear shells yellowed, creating the appearance of gold. But hey, that’s what matters: the appearance. So the answer appears to be that the Lions didn’t intend to wear gold helmets, but they did indeed wear them nonetheless. … Meanwhile, the second entry on this Q&A page has info on the Lions’ brief flirtation with red uniforms. … Phil mentioned this over the weekend, but in cas you missed it: Look who else created his own sports-related drawings and logos when he was a kid: none other than Jack Kerouac! … Apostrophe Catastrophe contribution from Brinke Guthrie, who says this is in his wife’s T-shirt drawer. … Bit of a kilt controversy in Utah. I love the bit where it says it’s OK for the kid to wear the kilt “as an expression of the boy’s Scottish heritage.” But if non-Scottish-descended kid wanted to wear a kilt, that would be a no-go? … Lots of very cool old Japanese baseball videos here (courtesy of Jeremy Brahm, natch). … “I really like this 1980s photo of former Harvard hockey coach Bill Cleary in his Spot-Bilts,” writes Tris Wykes. “Most college or pro coaches wear dress shoes of some type, but Bill clearly went with function over form. Kind of a Vince Lombardi look on ice.”

 

212 comments to Patriot Games

  • josh's twin | May 18, 2009 at 8:32 am |

    No black jerseys in the Mets survey. Is this a harbinger of a return to good taste?

  • M.Princip | May 18, 2009 at 8:33 am |

    How about the Cornette Structures, instead of the Candela Structures?
    http://en.wikipedia....

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 8:37 am |

    [quote]I love the bit where it says it’s OK for the kid to wear the kilt “as an expression of the boy’s Scottish heritage.” But if non-Scottish-descended kid wanted to wear a kilt, that would be a no-go?[/quote]

    well…NTTAWWT, but probably

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 8:42 am |

    1. Whenever I have a free moment from teaching, umpiring and whatever responsiblities may befall me, I look forward to visiting the Candela exhibit.

    2. Those FSU stirrups look as if the players decided to make their own “MFing stirrups”.

    3. Is it just me, or did the SF Giants numbers look as if they were placed too low on their backs?

  • M.Princip | May 18, 2009 at 8:43 am |

    I love the original Pat Patriot(cartoon). Definitely has a rip your ear off and swallow it look, as opposed to the slightly constipated look the actual Pat logo has. Although constipated, he’ll gladly knock the shit out of you, no doubt.

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 8:45 am |

    I was lookie up pics of Johnnie LeMaster for a possible DIY and lookie what I found:

    http://lh6.ggpht.com...

  • KMC | May 18, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    Being a photograph of a photograph is not enough to qualify as a “metaphotograph.” What is the epistemic reference?

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 8:50 am |

    [quote comment=”329704″]I was lookie up pics of Johnnie LeMaster for a possible DIY and lookie what I found:

    http://lh6.ggpht.com...

    you HAVE GOT to do that matt…and i think you know what NOB im referring to!

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 8:51 am |

    [quote comment=”329704″]I was lookie up pics of Johnnie LeMaster for a possible DIY and lookie what I found:

    http://lh6.ggpht.com...

    Another find for LeMaster:

    http://randt.files.w...

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”329706″][quote comment=”329704″]I was lookie up pics of Johnnie LeMaster for a possible DIY and lookie what I found:

    http://lh6.ggpht.com...

    you HAVE GOT to do that matt…and i think you know what NOB im referring to![/quote]

    C’mon Phil, why else would anyone even KNOW who he is?

  • Dane | May 18, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    If you’re gonna play golf in Montclair, NJ, make sure to wear your best belt buckle:

    http://img.timeinc.n...

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    A question for UW…

    When the Pirates wore their pillbox caps, did their batting helmets resemble them with the waraparound stripes?

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”329710″]A question for UW…

    When the Pirates wore their pillbox caps, did their batting helmets resemble them with the waraparound stripes?[/quote]

    Nope.

  • War Damn Eagle | May 18, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    How could the Brewers not like their Friday “retro” unis? It’s not like they’re all that accurate to the 80s: they have belts, they’re button-up, and they’re baggy. So what’s the big deal? The pinstripes? Don’t the players ever notice that 80% of the fans in Miller Park wear the ball-in-glove retro gear?

    It’s not like they’re forced to wear these on Fridays:
    http://grossmanproje...

    I am in favor, however, of a return to Milwaukee in the road unis. Just be careful how you present such a large city name.

    Good:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Better:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Bad:
    http://exhibits.base...
    (the Nationals failed to heed that lesson, at least until this season)

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=\”329712\”]How could the Brewers not like their Friday \”retro\” unis? It\’s not like they\’re all that accurate to the 80s: they have belts, they\’re button-up, and they\’re baggy. So what\’s the big deal? The pinstripes? Don\’t the players ever notice that 80% of the fans in Miller Park wear the ball-in-glove retro gear?

    It\’s not like they\’re forced to wear these on Fridays:
    http://grossmanproje...

    I am in favor, however, of a return to Milwaukee in the road unis. Just be careful how you present such a large city name.

    Good:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Better:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Bad:
    http://exhibits.base...
    (the Nationals failed to heed that lesson, at least until this season)[/quote]

    In the Good picture, does the M on the cap utilize the same font as today Angels?

  • Glenn | May 18, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    Not quite sure if this is just optimism, or a matter of putting the cart before the horse, but my wife and I saw this yesterday. I just hope it turns out to be prophetic :)

    tshirt

  • Brad | May 18, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    So happy to hear the Brewers retro unis are slowly going away. Sell all the ball-in-glove crap you want in the stores, but keep it off the field. Most of these players weren’t alive in 1982. No need to keep re-living the past.

    They already have a Milwaukee wordmark, so I’m guessing they’ll just use that for the road unis and keep everything else the same.

  • Johnny O | May 18, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    “Rumor has it that in the reasonably near future the team may switch back to a road jersey that says ‘Milwaukee’”.

    Looks like all my hard work, paired with Pretty Boy Paulie’s jersey creating skills, paired with me sending everyone with an e-mail address from Brewers.com that image that Paulie created plus a story on why the Brewers need to return “Milwaukee” to the road uniform because they already have the damn word mark anyways… finally paid off!

    Gosh, I hope this rumor is true!

  • War Damn Eagle | May 18, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”329714″]Not quite sure if this is just optimism, or a matter of putting the cart before the horse, but my wife and I saw this yesterday.

    I just hope it turns out to be prophetic :)

    tshirt [/quote]

    The Denver Denver Nuggets!

  • blt | May 18, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=\”329712\”]How could the Brewers not like their Friday \”retro\” unis? It\’s not like they\’re all that accurate to the 80s: they have belts, they\’re button-up, and they\’re baggy. So what\’s the big deal? The pinstripes? Don\’t the players ever notice that 80% of the fans in Miller Park wear the ball-in-glove retro gear?

    It\’s not like they\’re forced to wear these on Fridays:
    http://grossmanproje...

    I am in favor, however, of a return to Milwaukee in the road unis. Just be careful how you present such a large city name.

    Good:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Better:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Bad:
    http://exhibits.base...
    (the Nationals failed to heed that lesson, at least until this season)[/quote]

    I think they have an abysmal record in the retros, but I could be wrong. Another argument, and I see this on Brewers blogs, is that fans want this team to have it\’s own uni-identity rather than continually throwing back to a previous era of success.

    Honestly tho, given the fact that only a couple of Brewers go high cuffs and none of the starters have worn stirrups since Johnny Estrada and that the team wears the blue alternate too much, the guys just aren\’t the uni aficionados we wish they were.

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    I just took a very, very quick look through Larry B’s screen grabs of the ’53 Lions and looks like only the helmet model with a raised center stripe (as worn by Bobby Layne) is that gold tone. Helmets from a couple other manufacturers are shown, including the one worn by Doak Walker (#37) that day, and they show little-to-none of the gold look.

    Not debating anything, just noticed it. And wondering if the “gold” was limited to the one brand of helmet.

    —Ricko

  • Johnny O | May 18, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”329713″][quote comment=\”329712\”]How could the Brewers not like their Friday \”retro\” unis? It\’s not like they\’re all that accurate to the 80s: they have belts, they\’re button-up, and they\’re baggy. So what\’s the big deal? The pinstripes? Don\’t the players ever notice that 80% of the fans in Miller Park wear the ball-in-glove retro gear?

    It\’s not like they\’re forced to wear these on Fridays:
    http://grossmanproje...

    I am in favor, however, of a return to Milwaukee in the road unis. Just be careful how you present such a large city name.

    Good:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Better:
    http://exhibits.base...

    Bad:
    http://exhibits.base...
    (the Nationals failed to heed that lesson, at least until this season)[/quote]

    In the Good picture, does the M on the cap utilize the same font as today Angels?[/quote]

    If not… it’s close:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Craig | May 18, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”329711″][quote comment=”329710″]A question for UW…

    When the Pirates wore their pillbox caps, did their batting helmets resemble them with the waraparound stripes?[/quote]

    Nope.[/quote]

    Thank God!

    Took the Mets survey despite being a Buccos fan. Any chance to express hatred of black on the Mets unis I’m takin it!! Hey, why not make their hats orange too ;P

  • kj | May 18, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    best!

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”329722″]…best![/quote]

    almost…

    BEST

  • M.Princip | May 18, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”329719″]

    Not debating anything, just noticed it. And wondering if the “gold” was limited to the one brand of helmet.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I was wondering the same thing, in that the 50s era Riddell helmets were OEM gold. Take a look at two stock examples of Riddell lids, currently on auction.

    1st example:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    2nd Example:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • kj | May 18, 2009 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”329723″][quote comment=”329722″]…best![/quote]

    almost…

    BEST[/quote]

    Good point. I’m down with that.

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”329725″][quote comment=”329723″][quote comment=”329722″]…best![/quote]

    almost…

    BEST[/quote]

    Good point. I’m down with that.[/quote]

    They need Barrel man on the sleeve.

  • Alex Poterack | May 18, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    They need Barrel man on the sleeve.

    Ooooo, yeah. Also, I hope they take the opportunity to retire the retro unis, but then incorporate the ball and glove logo into the current uniforms, in the new colors. That, to me, would be the best of both worlds.

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    I’d rather see a complete Brewers overhaul (pardon the shameless concept repost, but there have been some tweaks since you last saw it):

    Home
    Road
    color palette

    The rationale and symbolism behind the uniform can be found here: Borchert Field.com: Paging Mr. Attanasio….

    Even if the Brewers are going to keep the mediocre unis they wear now, there are a couple small changes that would vastly improveme the set. Especially the roads.

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    Sorry, screwed up my HTML.

    I’d rather see a complete Brewers overhaul (pardon the shameless concept repost, but there have been some tweaks since you last saw it):

    Primary Logo
    Home
    Road
    Colors

    The rationale and symbolism behind the uniform can be found here: Borchert Field.com: Paging Mr. Attanasio….

    Even if the Brewers are going to keep the mediocre unis they wear now, there are a couple small changes that would vastly improveme the set. Especially the roads.

  • James Craven | May 18, 2009 at 10:38 am |

    Chance, you really didn’t have to double post.

  • Alex Poterack | May 18, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    I’d rather see a complete Brewers overhaul (pardon the shameless concept repost, but there have been some tweaks since you last saw it):

    Like: The cream color, the road wordmark, barrelman

    Dislike: The bottlecap logo, the home wordmark

    I do think that the home wordmark could be changed; I don’t like the whole 3-d effect, and would prefer just a simple outlining. That said, I haven’t seen any good ideas for what to change it to. And, also, while I’m intrigued by a lot of what you posted, I think the recent success of the team makes me, personally, shy away from any complete uniform overhauls. I definitely support putting Milwaukee on the roadies; that’s a change that should’ve happened a long time ago (actually, Milwaukee should never have left the road uniforms).

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    chance,

    i love this one, esp. with barrel man…

    whatever happened to your concept (road) that had the cursive “milwaukee” (similar to say, the circa 1982 roadie)?

    any chance you could post that again (or even do a side-by-side of the three ‘city name on jersey’ concepts — block milwaukee, as above, your cursive, and the paulie-esque milwaukee in ‘current’ font with barrell man…

    for comparison’s sake?

  • DaveMac | May 18, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    Those designs are amazing! They need to be submitted to the team!

  • Lee | May 18, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    Not sure anyone here will be interested, but in keeping with the spirit of a couple others who are documenting the different uni combos of a couple MLB teams, I have created a spreadsheet showing the different kit combos for all MLS (Major League Soccer) teams/games so far in 2009.

    http://spreadsheets....

    Please note:
    * MLS teams don’t have “home” and “road” uniforms sets, more like “primary” & “secondary”, so games often feature both teams “in color”.
    * Many times teams will mix & match shirt, short & sock combination’s.
    * FC Dallas actually feature ‘hoops’ (horizontal white stripes) in both their primary & secondary kits. I couldn’t represent that on my sheet.
    * Likewise Chivas USA has white vertical stripes on the primary shirt, but their secondary shirt is solid blue.

    Lee

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”329730″]Sorry, screwed up my HTML.

    I’d rather see a complete Brewers overhaul (pardon the shameless concept repost, but there have been some tweaks since you last saw it):

    Primary Logo
    Home
    Road
    Colors

    The rationale and symbolism behind the uniform can be found here: Borchert Field.com: Paging Mr. Attanasio….

    Even if the Brewers are going to keep the mediocre unis they wear now, there are a couple small changes that would vastly improveme the set. Especially the roads.[/quote]

    LOVE the Home treatment…Perhaps the Bottlecap logo could use the barley leaf underneath the M to spruce it up a bit.

    The placket MUST stay and we need to get Barrel man somewhere.

    The Brewers brainstrust should REALLY look st these.

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”329701″][quote]I love the bit where it says it’s OK for the kid to wear the kilt “as an expression of the boy’s Scottish heritage.” But if non-Scottish-descended kid wanted to wear a kilt, that would be a no-go?[/quote]

    well…NTTAWWT, but probably[/quote]
    Interesting coincidence that the school district spokesman’s name is Nate Taggart.

  • Peter | May 18, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    AHL News: The Quad City Flames have annouced their NEW name in Abbotsford: the HEAT

    http://www.theahl.co...

    Wonder if they’ll bring the Atlanta Flames “A” As a primary logo?

  • Roger Faso | May 18, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    What in thee hell happened to Distant Replays !?!

    http://www.distantre...

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    Hey, how about the “Shea Structures”?

    Shea Igloos?

    Sheagloos?

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”329733″]chance,

    i love this one, esp. with barrel man…

    whatever happened to your concept (road) that had the cursive “milwaukee” (similar to say, the circa 1982 roadie)?

    any chance you could post that again (or even do a side-by-side of the three ‘city name on jersey’ concepts — block milwaukee, as above, your cursive, and the paulie-esque milwaukee in ‘current’ font with barrell man…

    for comparison’s sake?[/quote]

    Glad to.

    Here’s the page I put together a couple years ago with my two uniform concepts, one based on the 1982 uniforms and one based on the 1940s Brewers:

    http://chancemichael...

  • Johnny O | May 18, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    In case you are interested Chance, the person who I contacted with the Brewers who has replied back to me was Jill Aronoff. She is the Director – Merchandise Branding for the Milwaukee Brewers Baseball Club. Her e-mail is Jill.Aronoff@brewers.com, and he phone number is 414.902.4450. I think you really submit your images to her. You never know, it’s worth a shot. When she responded back to me in early February, she said the Brewers are not going to make changes for the 2009 season, but are currently reviewing their 2010 uniforms. Maybe you can speed up this process by submitting your images, or at least saying “Milwaukee” should return to the roadies.

    I do really like your concepts by the way. I really enjoy incorporating Leinie’s and PBR into your fonts.

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”329742″]In case you are interested Chance, the person who I contacted with the Brewers who has replied back to me was Jill Aronoff. She is the Director – Merchandise Branding for the Milwaukee Brewers Baseball Club. Her e-mail is Jill.Aronoff@brewers.com, and he phone number is 414.902.4450. I think you really submit your images to her. You never know, it’s worth a shot. When she responded back to me in early February, she said the Brewers are not going to make changes for the 2009 season, but are currently reviewing their 2010 uniforms. Maybe you can speed up this process by submitting your images, or at least saying “Milwaukee” should return to the roadies.

    I do really like your concepts by the way. I really enjoy incorporating Leinie’s and PBR into your fonts.[/quote]

    Thanks, Johnny. I’ll most certainly be in touch with her.

  • WONG WONG | May 18, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    Just took the Mets survey – their are a couple of black (and some ghastly alts) in there. I am curious to know if the Met’s will truly listen to the fans and drop the black or at least make the blue and pure whites/road grays their primary uniform set. Every time I see them come on the field in them we cringe.

  • Matthew Hackethal | May 18, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”329739″]What in thee hell happened to Distant Replays !?!

    http://www.distantre...

    They filed for bankruptcy and it looks like Retro Brand purchased them and is now using it to peddle their apparel.

  • UmpLou | May 18, 2009 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”329737″][quote comment=”329701″][quote]I love the bit where it says it’s OK for the kid to wear the kilt “as an expression of the boy’s Scottish heritage.” But if non-Scottish-descended kid wanted to wear a kilt, that would be a no-go?[/quote]

    well…NTTAWWT, but probably[/quote]
    Interesting coincidence that the school district spokesman’s name is Nate Taggart.[/quote]

    you mean THIS Taggart, don’t you?

  • War Damn Eagle | May 18, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”329744″]Just took the Mets survey – their are a couple of black (and some ghastly alts) in there. I am curious to know if the Met’s will truly listen to the fans and drop the black or at least make the blue and pure whites/road grays their primary uniform set. Every time I see them come on the field in them we cringe.[/quote]

    That assumes that the majority of responders on that survey actually want to get rid of the black in the Mets’ color scheme. It’s the consensus among Uni-Watchers, but what about the public at-large? Somebody’s buying all those black caps and jerseys . . .

  • DaveMac | May 18, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    I’m a big Brewers fan and think you should DEFINITELY submit those designs. They are amazing and fresh while still retaining a lot of important elements from past uniforms. This is exactly what the Brewers need right now. It’s a perfect identity for the new generation of Brewers. Please send these to the contact Johnny O. provided, it is certainly worth a shot. Remember, the ball-and-glove logo which is one of the hottest selling items in MLB to this day was submitted by a fan. The team would have to at least be intrigued by this. I’d be absolutely thrilled if these were the Brewers uniforms. Once again, please e-mail these to the teams. Do it for yourself, the team and the fans! You’ve got my support 100%. In fact, after you e-mail the team I’d be happy to e-mail them in support of the logo if you’d like me to. Go for it!

  • Giancarlo | May 18, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    I’d like to see Chance’s design in royal blue & athletic gold. Let’s try to swing the pendulum back toward bright colors. Everyone’s been muting & darkening since the mid ’80s – an entire generation.

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    @#42 [quote]Glad to.[/quote]

    thanks chance

    @#48 [quote]That assumes that the majority of responders on that survey actually want to get rid of the black in the Mets’ color scheme[/quote]great point jon…i was at a game a couple weeks ago with powers and i’d say that black jerseys (whether authentic, replica or t-shirt) outweighed ALL other fangear, easily by a 3-2 margin…now, it was somewhat chilly, so that may have played a factor, but there is no shortage of black-wearing and loving mets fans…*sighs* (it’s hard to tell from this shot — and remember it was free douchebag visor night)…but there’s more black than anything else

    @#49 [quote]Remember, the ball-and-glove logo which is one of the hottest selling items in MLB to this day was submitted by a fan.[/quote]

    excellent point dave…if you remember a weekend or so ago when i polled some of the UW readers on their favorite caps — the ball in glove was the de facto cap of UW…(albeit from a small sample size) so there’s obviously a chance for the crew to capitalize on the popularity of this iconic symbol when they rework their unis…

  • Christopher | May 18, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    RE: the coded wristband for baseball.

    That sounds absolutely worse in terms of the opposing team picking it off.

    So curve outside may have 3 numbers associated with it. Have one of the guys sitting on the bench write down every number seen, and what pitch follows.

    In 3 innings I bet you have most of them.

    Same goes for defense stealing offensive numbers, though that may take longer.

    At the very least once you have *one* number- say 231 means curve outside- every time you see 231 from then on, you have it.

  • Anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    JTH, wrt yesterday’s pic of a Milwaukee bobblehead sliding into a base: was that sponsored by Goodwill, the familiar charity-type organization??

  • Paul Lukas | May 18, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”329740″]Hey, how about the “Shea Structures”?

    Shea Igloos?

    Sheagloos?[/quote]

    When we were pondering various names for the exhibit itself, one of the ones I proposed was “Sea Shells, Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that without tripping over it, myself included…

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”329749″]I’d like to see Chance’s design in royal blue & athletic gold. Let’s try to swing the pendulum back toward bright colors. Everyone’s been muting & darkening since the mid ’80s – an entire generation.[/quote]

    Finally watched SUPERMAN RETURNS over the weekend. Sheesh, even he had to go to maroon instead of red.

    Somber. must be somber. Everything in life and death, nothing can be fun. Not even sports.

    —Ricko

  • jesse | May 18, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    Very nice job on all the Brew Crew unis

  • Anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”329753″]”… Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that…[/quote]

    Just like Seychelles.

    What could be simpler?

  • M.Princip | May 18, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”329753″][quote comment=”329740″]Hey, how about the “Shea Structures”?

    Shea Igloos?

    Sheagloos?[/quote]

    When we were pondering various names for the exhibit itself, one of the ones I proposed was “Sea Shells, Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that without tripping over it, myself included…[/quote]

    Well, maybe I’m the only one who thinks so, yet, those structures do have the same quirkiness(forms) to this Flying Nun Cornette.

    http://upload.wikime...

    http://cityreliquary...

  • doug | May 18, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    re: bill cleary and spot-bilt – this ad (link at bottom) makes it look like spot-bilt was HQ’d in cambridge, which would (sort of) explain why harvard’s hockey coach would rock their shoes… hockey has always been the biggest sport at harvard, and getting the legendary bill cleary to wear their shoes was probably a bit of a local coup…

    http://www.tomheroes...

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”329756″][quote comment=”329753″]”… Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that…[/quote]

    Just like Seychelles.

    What could be simpler?[/quote]

    If they built some Sheashells in the Seychelles?

    “Sheasheels in the Seychelles,
    by the seashore…”

  • Anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”329758″]… hockey has always been the biggest sport at harvard…[/quote]
    Well, ALWAYS takes in quite a long period of time. Not sure I can agree with you on that one.

  • Jeff | May 18, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    As many of you know by now, the Mets have been conducting a uniform survey

    Vote early, vote often!

  • Anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”329759″]If they built some Sheashells in the Seychelles?

    “Sheasheels in the Seychelles,
    by the seashore…”[/quote]Me likee that Sports Illustrated issue.

    “Zowie it’s Maui” was also a favorite.

  • LarenR | May 18, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”329746″][quote comment=”329737″][quote comment=”329701″][quote]I love the bit where it says it’s OK for the kid to wear the kilt “as an expression of the boy’s Scottish heritage.” But if non-Scottish-descended kid wanted to wear a kilt, that would be a no-go?[/quote]

    well…NTTAWWT, but probably[/quote]
    Interesting coincidence that the school district spokesman’s name is Nate Taggart.[/quote]

    you mean THIS Taggart, don’t you?[/quote]
    or maybe this guy?

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”329762″][quote comment=”329759″]If they built some Sheashells in the Seychelles?

    “Sheasheels in the Seychelles,
    by the seashore…”[/quote]Me likee that Sports Illustrated issue.

    “Zowie it’s Maui” was also a favorite.[/quote]

    Sure hope they never shoot on the island of Truk.

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    I, for one, vote NO on the “Shea-shells”.

    Candela Structures sounds better than Shea-shells.

    As for the Black for the sake of black in the Mets unis…I have to admit that the argument FOR the Met’s use of black held water.

    The NY Giants colors were orange and black, so the use of the color is warranted, however tacky and unnecessary it might be.

    As for the pic of The Rotunda, I cannot concur because I was:

    A.too busy digging in a trash receptacle to find my ticket and

    B. too busy checking out the blonde in the “87 road jersey

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    Paul, congrats on the Reliquary exhibit.

    I can’t tell you how impressed I am, that you turned a moment of curiosity into an opportunity to share an amazing story with us.

  • muddlehead | May 18, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    odd a’s hat. with the apostrophe and letter s intact, more than just a bit off center. ditch it quick.

  • Greenie | May 18, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    The Marlins are a scared bunch…

    http://onmilwaukee.c...

  • Anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”329764″]Sure hope they never shoot on the island of Truk.[/quote]
    Once I see who and what they shoot on the island of Truk, I’ll decide. :-)

    Ah, Elle. Good memories.

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”329768″]The Marlins are a scared bunch…

    http://onmilwaukee.c...

    I guess that their bats and gloves were in the hotel too then!

  • MEMAL | May 18, 2009 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”329721″][quote comment=”329711″][quote comment=”329710″]A question for UW…

    When the Pirates wore their pillbox caps, did their batting helmets resemble them with the waraparound stripes?[/quote]

    Nope.[/quote]

    Thank God!

    Took the Mets survey despite being a Buccos fan. Any chance to express hatred of black on the Mets unis I’m takin it!! Hey, why not make their hats orange too ;P[/quote]

    That’s pretty funny Craig, because I’m a Pittsburgh guy too, but I kind of wanted to care about baseball for once and after much thought and discussion with friends I have decided to adopt the Mets as my new favorite baseball team until the Pirates matter.

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 12:32 pm |

    Someone needs to explain to…
    a) the sock manufacturer or…
    b) Florida State or…
    c) both
    …that stirrups striped that high, that far above the stirrup, are for football.
    http://cmsimg.tallah...
    Maybe when the Seminole baseball team is through with them Bobby Bowden can put those socks to their intended use.

    –Ricko

  • Anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”329772″]Maybe when the Seminole baseball team is through with them Bobby Bowden can put those socks to their intended use.

    –Ricko[/quote]Ricko, I’m not sure I want to see a 70-something man wearing a large golf hat, wrap-around gold mirror sunglasses, shorts and stirrups.

    :-)

  • Lee | May 18, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”329772″]Someone needs to explain to…
    a) the sock manufacturer or…
    b) Florida State or…
    c) both
    …that stirrups striped that high, that far above the stirrup, are for football.
    http://cmsimg.tallah...
    Maybe when the Seminole baseball team is through with them Bobby Bowden can put those socks to their intended use.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Shhhh!

    When the common alternative is too often this: http://mybiggestcomp... I think we should be reasonably happy with Florida State’s attempt. At least they are TRYING.

    Lee

  • Paul Lukas | May 18, 2009 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”329772″]Someone needs to explain to…
    a) the sock manufacturer or…
    b) Florida State or…
    c) both
    …that stirrups striped that high, that far above the stirrup, are for football.[/quote]

    I strongly disagree. Love the calf-level stripe. Plenty of precedent for it:
    http://images.google...

    Yes, the cutout is higher on that stirrup than on the Florida State stirrup, but that’s not the point. The cutout is always variable; the stripe placement should be contant, and should always be at calf level.

  • Paul Lukas | May 18, 2009 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”329766″]Paul, congrats on the Reliquary exhibit.

    I can’t tell you how impressed I am, that you turned a moment of curiosity into an opportunity to share an amazing story with us.[/quote]

    Thanks, Chance. Hey, curiosity + backstory = what I do, whether with the Candelas or with Uni Watch or whatever. I’m lucky to have a cool audience that apprciates this approach.

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”329775″][quote comment=”329772″]Someone needs to explain to…
    a) the sock manufacturer or…
    b) Florida State or…
    c) both
    …that stirrups striped that high, that far above the stirrup, are for football.[/quote]

    I strongly disagree. Love the calf-level stripe. Plenty of precedent for it:
    http://images.google...

    Yes, the cutout is higher on that stirrup than on the Florida State stirrup, but that’s not the point. The cutout is always variable; the stripe placement should be contant, and should always be at calf level.[/quote]

    I’m talking about the ways socks were created and sold back then.

    Stripes that high in relation to the stirrup and that high on the calf, would have been sold as football socks, so that the stripes would should above the white crew socks the players wore.

    On the the baseball versions, the stripes were positioned a bit closer to the stirrup so that all the stripes would show beneath bloused pant legs (unlike the way the football-style the players do these days), resulting in the stripes being near midway between the stirrup and the pants, or sometimes filling that space entirely. Don’t have time now, but any routine survey of MLB photos from the ’30s through the ’50s would show that was the case.

    —Ricko

  • DJ | May 18, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    Finally watched SUPERMAN RETURNS over the weekend. Sheesh, even he had to go to maroon instead of red.

    I recall reading that Bryan Singer wanted to keep one color on the costume bright; he chose the blue.

  • doug | May 18, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=\”329760\”][quote comment=\”329758\”]… hockey has always been the biggest sport at harvard…[/quote]
    Well, ALWAYS takes in quite a long period of time. Not sure I can agree with you on that one.[/quote]
    what was the point of this comment? just to be a smart-ass?

    hockey has been the biggest sport at harvard for at least 30 years and bill cleary (born in cambridge and a harvard grad) is probably harvard\’s most well-known sports personality of the last 50 years. a local company getting him to wear their shoes was surely a big deal.

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”329754″][quote comment=”329749″]I’d like to see Chance’s design in royal blue & athletic gold. Let’s try to swing the pendulum back toward bright colors. Everyone’s been muting & darkening since the mid ’80s – an entire generation.[/quote]

    Finally watched SUPERMAN RETURNS over the weekend. Sheesh, even he had to go to maroon instead of red.

    Somber. must be somber. Everything in life and death, nothing can be fun. Not even sports.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Better?

  • Graham | May 18, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    http://www.hatland.c...
    Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”329780″]Better?[/quote]

    all you need now are stirrups ;)

  • Anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”329779″]what was the point of this comment? just to be a smart-ass?

    hockey has been the biggest sport at harvard for at least 30 years and bill cleary (born in cambridge and a harvard grad) is probably harvard\’s most well-known sports personality of the last 50 years. a local company getting him to wear their shoes was surely a big deal.[/quote]

    Again-yeah, something like that.

    Okay; here, let me make it a lot simpler for those who think “always” is equivalent to thirty years.

    FOOTBALL.

  • Mike Miller | May 18, 2009 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”329735″]Not sure anyone here will be interested, but in keeping with the spirit of a couple others who are documenting the different uni combos of a couple MLB teams, I have created a spreadsheet showing the different kit combos for all MLS (Major League Soccer) teams/games so far in 2009.

    http://spreadsheets....

    Please note:
    * MLS teams don’t have “home” and “road” uniforms sets, more like “primary” & “secondary”, so games often feature both teams “in color”.
    * Many times teams will mix & match shirt, short & sock combination’s.
    * FC Dallas actually feature ‘hoops’ (horizontal white stripes) in both their primary & secondary kits. I couldn’t represent that on my sheet.
    * Likewise Chivas USA has white vertical stripes on the primary shirt, but their secondary shirt is solid blue.

    Lee[/quote]

    Since Columbus has gone to the all-yellow look, they really have no need for a change strip. No other team in MLS wears yellow in any form. Houston’s orange may be the only color that could create a clash. Which is a shame, because I really like the Crew’s black jersey, and the all yellow is just pretty garish looking, with a bunch of silly, curvy accent lines.

    http://www.albionroa...

    http://www.albionroa...

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”329780″][quote comment=”329754″][quote comment=”329749″]I’d like to see Chance’s design in royal blue & athletic gold. Let’s try to swing the pendulum back toward bright colors. Everyone’s been muting & darkening since the mid ’80s – an entire generation.[/quote]

    Finally watched SUPERMAN RETURNS over the weekend. Sheesh, even he had to go to maroon instead of red.

    Somber. must be somber. Everything in life and death, nothing can be fun. Not even sports.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Better?[/quote]

    Hey, Chance, I wasn’t second guessing your design, just the whole “darker is better” thing.

  • Will L. | May 18, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    Since the Nationals’ 2009 Season BlunderFest has involved a number of uniform gaffes, I thought I’d share this non-uni-related mess up. Hey, at least we’re consistent:

    Enjoy.

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”329752″]JTH, wrt yesterday’s pic of a Milwaukee bobblehead sliding into a base: was that sponsored by Goodwill, the familiar charity-type organization??[/quote]
    Yep. The Rickie Weeks bobblehead was sponsored by Goodwill Industries International. Seemed odd to me, too.

  • rpm | May 18, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    jth~
    don’t even have time to read UW til later(noooo!), but in regards to your comment yesterday about our mystery basketball player as a baseball youth…um, touché:)
    ~rpm

    paul~
    so glad to hear everything went well, sally moustache & keith rainbow really wanted to be there. i will be getting in touch soon to double check memberships, looks like we are both in something of a whirlwind right now. you are going to flip when you see some of these requests, they are all pretty fun.
    ~rpm

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”329787″][quote comment=”329752″]JTH, wrt yesterday’s pic of a Milwaukee bobblehead sliding into a base: was that sponsored by Goodwill, the familiar charity-type organization??[/quote]
    Yep. The Rickie Weeks bobblehead was sponsored by Goodwill Industries International. Seemed odd to me, too.[/quote]
    Oops. Bad link — fixed now.

  • Mike Miller | May 18, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”329781″]http://www.hatland.com/justadded.cfm
    Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.[/quote]

    Of course, you couldn’t just wear the blue ones from last year, people already bought those. You have to have another marketing scheme to extract more money from fans.

    At least the Jays Canada version will look halfway decent, and the Jays are actually at home this year on Canada Day.

    Imagine the terror of the Yankees having to wear a red hat.

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”329785″][quote comment=”329780″][quote comment=”329754″][quote comment=”329749″]I’d like to see Chance’s design in royal blue & athletic gold. Let’s try to swing the pendulum back toward bright colors. Everyone’s been muting & darkening since the mid ’80s – an entire generation.[/quote]

    Finally watched SUPERMAN RETURNS over the weekend. Sheesh, even he had to go to maroon instead of red.

    Somber. must be somber. Everything in life and death, nothing can be fun. Not even sports.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Better?[/quote]

    Hey, Chance, I wasn’t second guessing your design, just the whole “darker is better” thing.[/quote]

    No need to apologize. I like the bright colors as well. Royal and gold used to be well-regarded colors across pro sports, but the Brewers, Mariners, Rams, Sabres, A’s, Warriors (any others?) all changed to more “dignified” and marketable tones.

  • =bg= | May 18, 2009 at 1:19 pm |

    Wanna see the ugliest tennis shoes ever? Sure you do! The uppers are made from tennis ball felt. Whatever happened to the ‘Stan Smith’ look?

    http://4.bp.blogspot...

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”329788″]jth~
    don’t even have time to read UW til later(noooo!), but in regards to your comment yesterday about our mystery basketball player as a baseball youth…um, touché:)
    ~rpm
    [/quote]
    I was just having a little fun on a slow comment day yesterday (with that one and the mystery Oriole, of course).

  • War Damn Eagle | May 18, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”329781″]http://www.hatland.com/justadded.cfm
    Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.[/quote]

    Didn’t see one for the Nats. Will they wear their own stars/stripes cap instead?

  • Big Al | May 18, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    From yesterday…

    [quote comment=”329654″]as much as it made me laugh to read the al bumbry, don baylor, paul blair, ken singleton, ellie hendricks, chico salmon, curt motton, tom shopay and the others in the crazy list of possibilities, both today and the other day, master joe hilsberg got it right. if it was the 72 all star game, and the dude in the pixture is a fat olde man, then it stands to reason it was probably one of earl’s coach’s. if it was one of earl’s coach’s it was probably the first african american to dial long distance for the o’s, joe durham. durham was a coach in 72, and would go on to coach for the o’s for a long time. anyway, from his playing days here or as a long time coach

    if you can do better then joe’s suggestion, bring it, but if i hear another lee may, mike cuellar, jim gentile, pat kelly, or dave skaggs, my brain pan is going to ‘splode.
    [/quote]
    Fantastic post, rpm. My favorite “guess” was Tom Shopay. You know, BECAUSE HE’S A WHITE GUY.

    re: Phil’s request –> I did the legwork re: Yankees uniform iterations this season. Through Sunday, the Yanks are 9-7 wearing the pinstripes and 11-10 sporting their road grays. ;)

    Very nice interview with Larry.

  • Ricko | May 18, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”329794″][quote comment=”329781″]http://www.hatland.com/justadded.cfm
    Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.[/quote]

    Didn’t see one for the Nats. Will they wear their own stars/stripes cap instead?[/quote]

    goshthosehatsareswell.
    So next year white?

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    Chance,

    I love your latest designs (either navy or royal works for me) but I think I’d prefer to see the cursive font on the road jersey and the block font on the home.

    Phil,

    Who sponsored the visor giveaway, Massengill or Summer’s Eve?

  • Bernard | May 18, 2009 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”329775″][quote comment=”329772″]Someone needs to explain to…
    a) the sock manufacturer or…
    b) Florida State or…
    c) both
    …that stirrups striped that high, that far above the stirrup, are for football.[/quote]

    I strongly disagree. Love the calf-level stripe. Plenty of precedent for it:
    http://images.google...

    Yes, the cutout is higher on that stirrup than on the Florida State stirrup, but that’s not the point. The cutout is always variable; the stripe placement should be contant, and should always be at calf level.[/quote]

    1960 Pirates = greatest baseball uni ever, IMHO.

  • Mike Miller | May 18, 2009 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”329796″][quote comment=”329794″][quote comment=”329781″]http://www.hatland.com/justadded.cfm
    Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.[/quote]

    Didn’t see one for the Nats. Will they wear their own stars/stripes cap instead?[/quote]

    goshthosehatsareswell.
    So next year white?[/quote]

    At least white would have a shot at looking good on half the teams.

  • doug | May 18, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=\”329783\”]

    Again-yeah, something like that.

    Okay; here, let me make it a lot simpler for those who think \”always\” is equivalent to thirty years.

    FOOTBALL.[/quote]

    no way – football doesn’t get the same leeway with admissions that hockey does, not even close. there are/were guys on the hockey team who have no business whatsoever being there, whereas most of the football players were justifiable candidates.

    additionally, the bright center pretty much always sells out, and harvard stadium is usually 2/3rds empty.

    football is popular at harvard, but hockey is king. but hey, thanks for the snide remarks.
    class of ’05.

  • Ry Co 40 | May 18, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”329757″][quote comment=”329753″][quote comment=”329740″]Hey, how about the “Shea Structures”?

    Shea Igloos?

    Sheagloos?[/quote]

    When we were pondering various names for the exhibit itself, one of the ones I proposed was “Sea Shells, Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that without tripping over it, myself included…[/quote]

    Well, maybe I’m the only one who thinks so, yet, those structures do have the same quirkiness(forms) to this Flying Nun Cornette.

    http://upload.wikime...

    http://cityreliquary...

    paul, what font is used between the pictures of the structures please? or does anybody else know for sure?

  • Mark K | May 18, 2009 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”329791″]
    No need to apologize. I like the bright colors as well. Royal and gold used to be well-regarded colors across pro sports, but the Brewers, Mariners, Rams, Sabres, A’s, Warriors (any others?) all changed to more “dignified” and marketable tones.[/quote]
    Bills

  • Ry Co 40 | May 18, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    beardface… i’ll be at the game tonight! gonna be an exciting one for sure!!!

  • Josh | May 18, 2009 at 1:37 pm |

    It’s too bad that I didn’t keep all my doodles from childhood.
    I created a team with logos and uniforms for Phoenix. My dad had a Rawlings uniform catalog so I based my uniform drawings on what I saw in there. I wanted an MLB team in Phoenix so bad growing up – we had the Giants AAA team here.

  • Lee | May 18, 2009 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”329784″][quote comment=”329735″]Not sure anyone here will be interested, but in keeping with the spirit of a couple others who are documenting the different uni combos of a couple MLB teams, I have created a spreadsheet showing the different kit combos for all MLS (Major League Soccer) teams/games so far in 2009.

    http://spreadsheets....

    Please note:
    * MLS teams don’t have “home” and “road” uniforms sets, more like “primary” & “secondary”, so games often feature both teams “in color”.
    * Many times teams will mix & match shirt, short & sock combination’s.
    * FC Dallas actually feature ‘hoops’ (horizontal white stripes) in both their primary & secondary kits. I couldn’t represent that on my sheet.
    * Likewise Chivas USA has white vertical stripes on the primary shirt, but their secondary shirt is solid blue.

    Lee[/quote]

    Since Columbus has gone to the all-yellow look, they really have no need for a change strip. No other team in MLS wears yellow in any form. Houston’s orange may be the only color that could create a clash. Which is a shame, because I really like the Crew’s black jersey, and the all yellow is just pretty garish looking, with a bunch of silly, curvy accent lines.

    http://www.albionroa...

    http://www.albionroa...

    I think that Columbus’ banana kits are bright enough that even against Houston there would still be enough of a contrast. But they did wear the black ones in their first road game of the year (against Houston of course). Haven’t worn them since, even against LA yesterday, who wore all white.

    I have to say that on that spreadsheet, the Chivas shorts look more purple than the dark blue they are supposed to be.

    Lee

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”329799″][quote comment=”329796″][quote comment=”329794″][quote comment=”329781″]http://www.hatland.com/justadded.cfm
    Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.[/quote]

    Didn’t see one for the Nats. Will they wear their own stars/stripes cap instead?[/quote]

    goshthosehatsareswell.
    So next year white?[/quote]

    At least white would have a shot at looking good on half the teams.[/quote]

    The Nats are exempt because they already have an atrocious red stars and stripes cap.

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”329800″][quote comment=\”329783\”]

    Again-yeah, something like that.

    Okay; here, let me make it a lot simpler for those who think \”always\” is equivalent to thirty years.

    FOOTBALL.[/quote]

    no way – football doesn’t get the same leeway with admissions that hockey does, not even close. there are/were guys on the hockey team who have no business whatsoever being there, whereas most of the football players were justifiable candidates.

    additionally, the bright center pretty much always sells out, and harvard stadium is usually 2/3rds empty.

    football is popular at harvard, but hockey is king. but hey, thanks for the snide remarks.
    class of ’05.[/quote]
    I think the point is that Harvard football, particularly The Game was at one time one of the biggest things going in all of college sports. And if you check, you’ll probably find that football has a longer history at Harvard than hockey does.

    Are we done now?

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”329800″]football is popular at harvard, but hockey is king. but hey, thanks for the snide remarks.
    class of ’05.[/quote]
    LOL! You’re more than welcome: thank you for the laugh of the day.

    You’re claiming to be from Harvard yet you don’t know US history much less Harvard history. Good one.

    Yep, hockey has always been king. Thirty years is always. Take care.

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”329808″][quote comment=”329800″]football is popular at harvard, but hockey is king. but hey, thanks for the snide remarks.
    class of ’05.[/quote]
    LOL! You’re more than welcome: thank you for the laugh of the day.

    You’re claiming to be from Harvard yet you don’t know US history much less Harvard history. Good one.

    Yep, hockey has always been king. Thirty years is always. Take care.[/quote]

    Boys…calm down…we’re all here for the same reason…to mock the Stars and Stripes caps

    The guys at Hahvahs are too busy “doin math equations on the wall” to be involved in puck and football.

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”329807″]Are we done now?[/quote]

    You’ve got a lot more patience than I do. :-) No way was I going to type that much.

    You can always tell a Harvard man; but you can’t tell him much. (this is the rolleyes emoticon)

    That “Harvard defeats Yale 29-29″ headline was about hockey, wasn’t it? Was Dowling the goalie or a winger for Yale?

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”329787″]Yep. The Rickie Weeks bobblehead was sponsored by Goodwill Industries International. Seemed odd to me, too.[/quote]
    I guess they can do as they please, but I couldn’t see the value if I was part of Goodwill.

    And of course, we both live in the Comm Ed area so we’re used to pointless advertising. :-(

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote]The guys at Hahvahs are too busy “doin math equations on the wall” to be involved in puck and football.[/quote]

    hahvahs?

    /if you’re going to quote GWH, it’s “so this is a hahvid baa huh? i thought they’d be equations on the wall and shit” ;)

  • doug | May 18, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”329810″][quote comment=”329807″]Are we done now?[/quote]

    You’ve got a lot more patience than I do. :-) No way was I going to type that much.

    You can always tell a Harvard man; but you can’t tell him much. (this is the rolleyes emoticon)

    That “Harvard defeats Yale 29-29″ headline was about hockey, wasn’t it? Was Dowling the goalie or a winger for Yale?[/quote]

    “harvard beats yale” was a HARVARD CRIMSON headline! it’s not like the game had a press pool of hundreds! and yes, you are correct – in 1898, football was more important than hockey, and yeah, probably in 1690 (or whenever you want to throw out there) hockey wasn’t very important, either. so you are right – always was not the right word to use. i beg your pardon.

    nevertheless, harvard football has not been important nationally since around the time centre college beat them, in the early ’20s, maybe the ’30s at the latest, while harvard hockey has had fairly consistent success since the 1960s, and has won harvard’s only national championship in a “major” sport since the split to D1-A and D1-AA. to borrow a baseball term, “in the modern era” harvard hockey has brought more publicity and generated fan interest more consistently than harvard football.

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”329812″][quote]The guys at Hahvahs are too busy “doin math equations on the wall” to be involved in puck and football.[/quote]

    hahvahs?

    /if you’re going to quote GWH, it’s “so this is a hahvid baa huh? i thought they’d be equations on the wall and shit” ;)[/quote]

    The s is too close the d on my keyboard.

    It was actually a “hybrid” quote of Saved by The Bell as well as “GWH”.

  • u2-horn | May 18, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”329792″]Wanna see the ugliest tennis shoes ever? Sure you do! The uppers are made from tennis ball felt. Whatever happened to the ‘Stan Smith’ look?

    http://4.bp.blogspot...

    Those are some SWEET Fuzzy Dunlops.

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”329814″]It was actually a “hybrid” quote of Saved by The Bell as well as “GWH”.[/quote]
    This is not a sentence that you will see very often. :-)

  • LarryB | May 18, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    One thing I noted about the 1953 Lions game was the difference variety of helmets the Lions had. From the gold to round silver like Walker had, to leather, to ones with brown face masks.

    And the comparison of silver to gold is obvious.

    http://lh6.ggpht.com...

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

  • Uni Expert | May 18, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    What up uni freaks. Let me drop some knowledge on ya’ll.

    [b]The BEST uniforms EVER are the Anaheim Angels in the late nineties until 2001.[/b] I’m still buyin them hats on ebay all the time.

    I also love the Atlanta Hawks in 1996. That was my team bro. Those unis were hot.

    So bring it on. Ya’ll can beat that shiz.

  • Mark K | May 18, 2009 at 2:33 pm |

    Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?

  • Lee | May 18, 2009 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”329818″]What up uni freaks. Let me drop some knowledge on ya’ll.

    [b]The BEST uniforms EVER are the Anaheim Angels in the late nineties until 2001.[/b] I’m still buyin them hats on ebay all the time.

    I also love the Atlanta Hawks in 1996. That was my team bro. Those unis were hot.

    So bring it on. Ya’ll can beat that shiz.[/quote]

    Fail.
    1996 Atlanta Hawks:
    http://www.sportslog...
    2001 Anaheim Angels
    http://www.sportslog...

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”329819″]Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?[/quote]

    Nope.

    1970-1995, American League. They won the pennant in 1982.

    1996, moved to the Senior Circut.

    Why do you ask?

  • Lee | May 18, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”329819″]Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?[/quote]

    No, they were in the AL until 1998.

    Lee

  • Jeff P | May 18, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”329796″][quote comment=”329794″][quote comment=”329781″]http://www.hatland.com/justadded.cfm
    Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.[/quote]

    Didn’t see one for the Nats. Will they wear their own stars/stripes cap instead?[/quote]

    goshthosehatsareswell.
    So next year white?[/quote]
    That would be a very marked improvement. At least they wouldn’t clash with anybody’s uniforms. And I always like to see White caps. It’s a nice look that nobody does anymore.

    But that would be hoping for too much. More likely they’ll use the normal logos on a cap made with one panel blue fabric with stars and the other five red and white stripes.

  • LarryB | May 18, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”329798″][quote comment=”329775″][quote comment=”329772″]Someone needs to explain to…
    a) the sock manufacturer or…
    b) Florida State or…
    c) both
    …that stirrups striped that high, that far above the stirrup, are for football.[/quote]

    I strongly disagree. Love the calf-level stripe. Plenty of precedent for it:
    http://images.google...

    Yes, the cutout is higher on that stirrup than on the Florida State stirrup, but that’s not the point. The cutout is always variable; the stripe placement should be contant, and should always be at calf level.[/quote]

    1960 Pirates = greatest baseball uni ever, IMHO.[/quote]

    I loved that Pirates uniform

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”329815″][quote comment=”329792″]Wanna see the ugliest tennis shoes ever? Sure you do! The uppers are made from tennis ball felt. Whatever happened to the ‘Stan Smith’ look?

    http://4.bp.blogspot...

    Those are some SWEET Fuzzy Dunlops.[/quote]

    There is a great reference from “The Wire”.

    The link is blocked at school, however, if I get the gist of what the picture is…that is an old idea:

    http://www.jungle-li...

    http://www.myairshoe...

    These are a version of the pupms worn by Michael Chang:

    http://i.pbase.com/o...

    http://www.eukicks.c...

    The last pic is from Phil’s closet. And no, I didn’t “come out” of it.

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote]re: Phil’s request –> I did the legwork re: Yankees uniform iterations this season. Through Sunday, the Yanks are 9-7 wearing the pinstripes and 11-10 sporting their road grays. ;)[/quote]

    thanks, big al…i knew i could count on you ;)

    [quote]Very nice interview with Larry.[/quote]

    larry’s great…we’ll have a bunch of stuff coming up in the coming weeks too

  • Ry Co 40 | May 18, 2009 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”329826″][quote]re: Phil’s request –> I did the legwork re: Yankees uniform iterations this season. Through Sunday, the Yanks are 9-7 wearing the pinstripes and 11-10 sporting their road grays. ;)[/quote]

    thanks, big al…i knew i could count on you ;)

    [quote]Very nice interview with Larry.[/quote]

    larry’s great…we’ll have a bunch of stuff coming up in the coming weeks too[/quote]

    looking forward to it!

  • Bernard | May 18, 2009 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”329816″][quote comment=”329814″]It was actually a “hybrid” quote of Saved by The Bell as well as “GWH”.[/quote]
    This is not a sentence that you will see very often. :-)[/quote]

    How about, “How do ya like them apples… preppie?!”

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”329821″][quote comment=”329819″]Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?[/quote]

    Nope.

    1970-1995, American League. They won the pennant in 1982.

    1996, moved to the Senior Circut.

    Why do you ask?[/quote]

    D’oh – 1998, not 1996.

    I remember walking out of my apartment and bought a newspaper out of the box only to learn from the front page that the Brewers had changed leagues the day before.

    Now, how many things are anachronistic about that statement? The only thing that makes sense to me now is the apartment bit.

  • Jeff P | May 18, 2009 at 2:42 pm |

    Oh, and I love this. Canada flag on the logo, American flag on the MLB logo, American flag on the label. And it shows how much of a messy blob that Toronto logo is.

    I guessing there are gonna be a few miffed Canucks.

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”329826″][quote]re: Phil’s request –> I did the legwork re: Yankees uniform iterations this season. Through Sunday, the Yanks are 9-7 wearing the pinstripes and 11-10 sporting their road grays. ;)[/quote]

    thanks, big al…i knew i could count on you ;)[/quote]

    I think something’s missing from those tallies, though.

  • Uni Expert | May 18, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”329820″][quote comment=”329818″]What up uni freaks. Let me drop some knowledge on ya’ll.

    [b]The BEST uniforms EVER are the Anaheim Angels in the late nineties until 2001.[/b] I’m still buyin them hats on ebay all the time.

    I also love the Atlanta Hawks in 1996. That was my team bro. Those unis were hot.

    So bring it on. Ya’ll can beat that shiz.[/quote]

    Fail.
    1996 Atlanta Hawks:
    http://www.sportslog...
    2001 Anaheim Angels
    http://www.sportslog...

    Thanks. Now that’s tight. Check THAT shiz out. Any of ya’ll feelin those?

  • Uni Expert | May 18, 2009 at 2:48 pm |

    There ain’t been better uniforms in history.

  • Paul Lukas | May 18, 2009 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”329801″][quote comment=”329757″][quote comment=”329753″][quote comment=”329740″]Hey, how about the “Shea Structures”?

    Shea Igloos?

    Sheagloos?[/quote]

    When we were pondering various names for the exhibit itself, one of the ones I proposed was “Sea Shells, Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that without tripping over it, myself included…[/quote]

    Well, maybe I’m the only one who thinks so, yet, those structures do have the same quirkiness(forms) to this Flying Nun Cornette.

    http://upload.wikime...

    http://cityreliquary...

    paul, what font is used between the pictures of the structures please? or does anybody else know for sure?[/quote]

    I believe that is Myriad. That’s what we used for most of the exhibit text, and I assume that’s what Kirsten used when she designed the postcard. I’ll double-check, though.

  • Jeff P | May 18, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”329833″]There ain’t been better uniforms in history.[/quote]
    I don’t think you’re very familiar with this site, are you?

  • Matt Brosseau | May 18, 2009 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”329834″]
    I believe that is Myriad. That’s what we used for most of the exhibit text, and I assume that’s what Kirsten used when she designed the postcard. I’ll double-check, though.[/quote]

    If that’s not Myriad, I will eat my 1975 Red Sox hat that I won in a bet in college. The “G” in “FLUSHING” is the giveaway.

  • DaveMac | May 18, 2009 at 2:56 pm |

    Although self-proclaimed “Uni Expert” isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, the Angels’ Disney-era uniforms have always been kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I know, I hate to admit it. It is embarrassing. Those unis go against just about everything I believe about sports and uniform aesthetics. Yet somehow, they have a fond place in my heart. Probably because when they first released them in 1997, I was 13 and playing for a little league team called the Angels. I went out and bought the official hat and really liked it. Now I see what a joke they are. You could make a strong argument that those things are the worst uniforms in sports history, and I might even agree with you. Yet somehow there is a part of me that likes them, just a little bit….

    And that is my embarrassing Uni Watch confession. I promise that I normally have much better taste. Pleae don’t hold it against me.

  • Ry Co 40 | May 18, 2009 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”329834″][quote comment=”329801″][quote comment=”329757″][quote comment=”329753″][quote comment=”329740″]Hey, how about the “Shea Structures”?

    Shea Igloos?

    Sheagloos?[/quote]

    When we were pondering various names for the exhibit itself, one of the ones I proposed was “Sea Shells, Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that without tripping over it, myself included…[/quote]

    Well, maybe I’m the only one who thinks so, yet, those structures do have the same quirkiness(forms) to this Flying Nun Cornette.

    http://upload.wikime...

    http://cityreliquary...

    paul, what font is used between the pictures of the structures please? or does anybody else know for sure?[/quote]

    I believe that is Myriad. That’s what we used for most of the exhibit text, and I assume that’s what Kirsten used when she designed the postcard. I’ll double-check, though.[/quote]

    i like that font, and i love the way you guys used it! reminds me of old pictures or old postcards. you 2 did an all around great job, and kirsten took some really awesome pics. what an eye! wish i could make it out to see it… keep up the great work!

  • DaveMac | May 18, 2009 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”329835″][quote comment=”329833″]There ain’t been better uniforms in history.[/quote]
    I don’t think you’re very familiar with this site, are you?[/quote]

    Haha!

  • Paul Lukas | May 18, 2009 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”329838″][quote comment=”329834″][quote comment=”329801″][quote comment=”329757″][quote comment=”329753″][quote comment=”329740″]Hey, how about the “Shea Structures”?

    Shea Igloos?

    Sheagloos?[/quote]

    When we were pondering various names for the exhibit itself, one of the ones I proposed was “Sea Shells, Shea Shells,” but it didn’t take long to figure out that nobody would even be able to pronounce that without tripping over it, myself included…[/quote]

    Well, maybe I’m the only one who thinks so, yet, those structures do have the same quirkiness(forms) to this Flying Nun Cornette.

    http://upload.wikime...

    http://cityreliquary...

    paul, what font is used between the pictures of the structures please? or does anybody else know for sure?[/quote]

    I believe that is Myriad. That’s what we used for most of the exhibit text, and I assume that’s what Kirsten used when she designed the postcard. I’ll double-check, though.[/quote]

    i like that font, and i love the way you guys used it! reminds me of old pictures or old postcards. you 2 did an all around great job, and kirsten took some really awesome pics. what an eye! wish i could make it out to see it… keep up the great work![/quote]

    Thanks, Ryan.

    The font is indeed Myriad.

    I like that before/after image with the text in between, too. We used it for an actual postcard (printed up 1000 of them). Kirsten gets credit for the idea of putting the text in the center, and she also picked the cool little arrows (I would’ve picked straight up/down arrow, but I much prefer the solution she came up with).

  • Lee | May 18, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”329837″]Although self-proclaimed “Uni Expert” isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, the Angels’ Disney-era uniforms have always been kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I know, I hate to admit it. It is embarrassing. Those unis go against just about everything I believe about sports and uniform aesthetics. Yet somehow, they have a fond place in my heart. Probably because when they first released them in 1997, I was 13 and playing for a little league team called the Angels. I went out and bought the official hat and really liked it. Now I see what a joke they are. You could make a strong argument that those things are the worst uniforms in sports history, and I might even agree with you. Yet somehow there is a part of me that likes them, just a little bit….

    And that is my embarrassing Uni Watch confession. I promise that I normally have much better taste. Pleae don’t hold it against me.[/quote]

    Rhis might be a great topic: Guilty pleasures. I think the majority of readers of UW fall closer to the “traditional” side of things… but i am sure there are uniforms that we know in our mind are just wrong, but our heart can’t help being a tad fond.

    Mine:
    http://www.itsalread...

    I am a Giants fan, btw.

    Lee

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”329840″]Kirsten gets credit for the idea of putting the text in the center, and she also picked the cool little arrows (I would’ve picked straight up/down arrow, but I much prefer the solution she came up with).[/quote]
    The arrows totally make it. Maybe because they direct the eye to the center of the structures whereas the vertical arrows wouldn’t.

  • Lee | May 18, 2009 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”329841″][quote comment=”329837″]Although self-proclaimed “Uni Expert” isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, the Angels’ Disney-era uniforms have always been kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I know, I hate to admit it. It is embarrassing. Those unis go against just about everything I believe about sports and uniform aesthetics. Yet somehow, they have a fond place in my heart. Probably because when they first released them in 1997, I was 13 and playing for a little league team called the Angels. I went out and bought the official hat and really liked it. Now I see what a joke they are. You could make a strong argument that those things are the worst uniforms in sports history, and I might even agree with you. Yet somehow there is a part of me that likes them, just a little bit….

    And that is my embarrassing Uni Watch confession. I promise that I normally have much better taste. Pleae don’t hold it against me.[/quote]

    Rhis might be a great topic: Guilty pleasures. I think the majority of readers of UW fall closer to the “traditional” side of things… but i am sure there are uniforms that we know in our mind are just wrong, but our heart can’t help being a tad fond.

    Mine:
    http://www.itsalread...

    I am a Giants fan, btw.

    Lee[/quote]

    Okay try this: http://www.baycityba...
    (1977 orange SF Giants, in case this one doesn’t show up either)

    Lee

  • DaveMac | May 18, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”329841″][quote comment=”329837″]Although self-proclaimed “Uni Expert” isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, the Angels’ Disney-era uniforms have always been kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I know, I hate to admit it. It is embarrassing. Those unis go against just about everything I believe about sports and uniform aesthetics. Yet somehow, they have a fond place in my heart. Probably because when they first released them in 1997, I was 13 and playing for a little league team called the Angels. I went out and bought the official hat and really liked it. Now I see what a joke they are. You could make a strong argument that those things are the worst uniforms in sports history, and I might even agree with you. Yet somehow there is a part of me that likes them, just a little bit….

    And that is my embarrassing Uni Watch confession. I promise that I normally have much better taste. Pleae don’t hold it against me.[/quote]

    Rhis might be a great topic: Guilty pleasures. I think the majority of readers of UW fall closer to the “traditional” side of things… but i am sure there are uniforms that we know in our mind are just wrong, but our heart can’t help being a tad fond.

    Mine:
    http://www.itsalread...

    I am a Giants fan, btw.

    Lee[/quote]

    Yeah I totally agree. Let me clarify and say that I am the ultimate traditionalist, like most on this site. It makes absolutely no sense that I like this horrible cartoonish uniform. It goes against everything I believe. Yet there is a small part of me that likes it (which is unfortunate). I think other “confessions” would be an interesting idea. I know that most of us here uphold to the finest of uni standards. Yet, there is a uniform or two out there that we somehow like, don’t know why, and don’t like to admit.

    “Uni Watch confessions…”

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”329839″][quote comment=”329835″][quote comment=”329833″]There ain’t been better uniforms in history.[/quote]
    I don’t think you’re very familiar with this site, are you?[/quote]

    Haha![/quote]

    UE’s top 10:

    10. Rainbow Nuggets
    9. Unitard:

    http://assets.sbnati...

    8. 90’s Barkley era Rockets
    7. Jazz Purple Mountains Majesty
    6. Kentucky Cat Scratch:

    http://farm2.static....

    5. Vancouver Grizzlies/Toronto Raptors
    4. Anything with “Fashion” in the title
    3. Wizards Gold Alts
    2. Kerry Kittles Villanova/Felipe Lopez St. Johns

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://majorleagueje...

    1. Anything with “Turn Ahead the Clock” in the title

  • Big Al | May 18, 2009 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”329831″][quote comment=”329826″][quote]re: Phil’s request –> I did the legwork re: Yankees uniform iterations this season. Through Sunday, the Yanks are 9-7 wearing the pinstripes and 11-10 sporting their road grays. ;)[/quote]

    thanks, big al…i knew i could count on you ;)[/quote]

    I think something’s missing from those tallies, though.[/quote]
    OK, I’ll bite. What’s missing?

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”329844″][quote comment=”329841″][quote comment=”329837″]Although self-proclaimed “Uni Expert” isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, the Angels’ Disney-era uniforms have always been kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I know, I hate to admit it. It is embarrassing. Those unis go against just about everything I believe about sports and uniform aesthetics. Yet somehow, they have a fond place in my heart. Probably because when they first released them in 1997, I was 13 and playing for a little league team called the Angels. I went out and bought the official hat and really liked it. Now I see what a joke they are. You could make a strong argument that those things are the worst uniforms in sports history, and I might even agree with you. Yet somehow there is a part of me that likes them, just a little bit….

    And that is my embarrassing Uni Watch confession. I promise that I normally have much better taste. Pleae don’t hold it against me.[/quote]

    Rhis might be a great topic: Guilty pleasures. I think the majority of readers of UW fall closer to the “traditional” side of things… but i am sure there are uniforms that we know in our mind are just wrong, but our heart can’t help being a tad fond.

    Mine:
    http://www.itsalread...

    I am a Giants fan, btw.

    Lee[/quote]

    Yeah I totally agree. Let me clarify and say that I am the ultimate traditionalist, like most on this site. It makes absolutely no sense that I like this horrible cartoonish uniform. It goes against everything I believe. Yet there is a small part of me that likes it (which is unfortunate). I think other “confessions” would be an interesting idea. I know that most of us here uphold to the finest of uni standards. Yet, there is a uniform or two out there that we somehow like, don’t know why, and don’t like to admit.

    “Uni Watch confessions…”[/quote]
    See, I’ve never been crazy about the term “guilty pleasure” because it implies that you’re supposed to feel bad about liking something and you should keep it to yourself. I’m fond of a lot of things (athletics aesthetics-related and otherwise) that the average person might put into the category of “guilty pleasures” that I’ll freely admit to.

    Here’s one right now.

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”329838″]reminds me of old pictures or old postcards. [/quote]
    100% agreement on the “old postcard” look for that typeface.

    All you would need is some scalloped edges and you’d be all the way there, correct? ;-)

  • Paul Lukas | May 18, 2009 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”329842″][quote comment=”329840″]Kirsten gets credit for the idea of putting the text in the center, and she also picked the cool little arrows (I would’ve picked straight up/down arrow, but I much prefer the solution she came up with).[/quote]
    The arrows totally make it. Maybe because they direct the eye to the center of the structures whereas the vertical arrows wouldn’t.[/quote]

    Exactly. Plus the curvy arrows mimic the curvy shapes of the structures. A really good design solution.

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”329846″][quote comment=”329831″][quote comment=”329826″][quote]re: Phil’s request –> I did the legwork re: Yankees uniform iterations this season. Through Sunday, the Yanks are 9-7 wearing the pinstripes and 11-10 sporting their road grays. ;)[/quote]

    thanks, big al…i knew i could count on you ;)[/quote]

    I think something’s missing from those tallies, though.[/quote]
    OK, I’ll bite. What’s missing?[/quote]
    Everybody Dress Up As Mariano Rivera Day.

  • Big Al | May 18, 2009 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”329845″][quote comment=”329839″][quote comment=”329835″][quote comment=”329833″]There ain’t been better uniforms in history.[/quote]
    I don’t think you’re very familiar with this site, are you?[/quote]

    Haha![/quote]

    UE’s top 10:\[/quote]
    When someone jumps out of the stands onto the field of play, producers always cut away to replays or other random shots, anything but showing the d0uchebag doing what he is going to get pummeled by police and/or security for doing.

    Anyone see where I’m going with this?

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”329847″]Here’s one right now.[/quote]Okay, if you like that uni then you’re guilty of SOMETHING.

    I don’t know what it is, but it’s something.

    :-)

    Me personally, I have a fond place in my heart for the classic Bucks uni from the days when Boerwinkle would be battling Alcindor. (For that matter, the Bulls uniforms from that era aren’t bad either: but then again the Bulls didn’t ever stray very far from that look.)

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”329851″]When someone jumps out of the stands onto the field of play, producers always cut away to replays or other random shots, anything but showing the d0uchebag doing what he is going to get pummeled by police and/or security for doing.
    [/quote]
    BTW, when his new show debuts watch for Conan O’Brien to have a scene where he’s running around the field at Wrigley being chased by security. It was filmed yesterday.

  • MPowers1634 | May 18, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”329851″][quote comment=”329845″][quote comment=”329839″][quote comment=”329835″][quote comment=”329833″]There ain’t been better uniforms in history.[/quote]
    I don’t think you’re very familiar with this site, are you?[/quote]

    Haha![/quote]

    UE’s top 10:\[/quote]
    When someone jumps out of the stands onto the field of play, producers always cut away to replays or other random shots, anything but showing the d0uchebag doing what he is going to get pummeled by police and/or security for doing.

    Anyone see where I’m going with this?[/quote]

    Oops…fuel to the fire, huh?

  • KT | May 18, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    She’s tall.

  • Ric | May 18, 2009 at 3:50 pm |

    I didn’t go through all of the comments, but this just showed up in my Facebook, the rumors of the red “Stars and Stripes” hats for this year are true. Commence the gripes.

    http://www1.neweraca...

  • Chris in Nashville | May 18, 2009 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”329857″]I didn’t go through all of the comments, but this just showed up in my Facebook, the rumors of the red “Stars and Stripes” hats for this year are true. Commence the gripes.

    http://www1.neweraca...

    So, it looks like the Indians are wearing their “throwbacks” that day.

  • Mark K | May 18, 2009 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”329821″][quote comment=”329819″]Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?[/quote]

    Nope.

    1970-1995, American League. They won the pennant in 1982.

    1996, moved to the Senior Circut.

    Why do you ask?[/quote]

    Just wondering if 11 years qualifies as “always” since some folks think 30 years does.

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 4:22 pm |

    Hey, speaking of logo creep (he says, clutching at straws to somehow make this comment relevant to the blog) How irritating was the product placement (Nokia, Budweiser, any others? I don’t recall.) in the new Star Trek movie?

    And the use of the Beastie Boys’ “Sabotage” in the movie is brilliant if this is true.

    Umm… yeah, and I like the sublimated Starfleet emblems in the uniform shirts.

  • LarryB | May 18, 2009 at 4:42 pm |

    The original Patriot story was interesting. It is one of those things that stood out to me for the early AFL teams.

  • Big Al | May 18, 2009 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”329859″][quote comment=”329821″][quote comment=”329819″]Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?[/quote]

    Nope.

    1970-1995, American League. They won the pennant in 1982.

    1996, moved to the Senior Circut.

    Why do you ask?[/quote]

    Just wondering if 11 years qualifies as “always” since some folks think 30 years does.[/quote]
    Man, you went an awfully long way for that one. Well played!

  • Lee | May 18, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”329861″]Hey, speaking of logo creep (he says, clutching at straws to somehow make this comment relevant to the blog) How irritating was the product placement (Nokia, Budweiser, any others? I don’t recall.) in the new Star Trek movie?[/quote]

    Probably. But I’ll never know.

  • Lose R | May 18, 2009 at 4:49 pm |

    Natinals baseball is FANASSTIC!

    http://voices.washin...

    The bat is part of the uni, I have deemed

  • DenverGregg | May 18, 2009 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”329818″]What up uni freaks. Let me drop some knowledge on ya’ll.

    [b]The BEST uniforms EVER are the Anaheim Angels in the late nineties until 2001.[/b] I’m still buyin them hats on ebay all the time.

    I also love the Atlanta Hawks in 1996. That was my team bro. Those unis were hot.

    So bring it on. Ya’ll can beat that shiz.[/quote]
    They have e-bay in Arkham Asylum?

  • Plasnick | May 18, 2009 at 5:03 pm |

    Per Neil’s photo of the 1915 Shelter Island logo, the Yankees really dodged a bullet with the logo for their A-ball squad:

    Staten Island Yankees

  • LarryB | May 18, 2009 at 5:12 pm |

    Unless I missed a comment late yesterday or today. Did anybody else watch “The Simpsons” last night?

    They made a reference to all these Ogdenville kids who were from a town settled by Norwegians. All the kids had Minnesota Vikings apparel.

    Millhouse said this is Tennessee Titan territory.

    “The Simpsons” has made other sports references this year. A few weeks ago they had 50 year old Milwaukee Braves pennant.

  • Giancarlo | May 18, 2009 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”329791″] Royal and gold used to be well-regarded colors across pro sports, but the Brewers, Mariners, Rams, Sabres, A’s, Warriors (any others?) all changed to more “dignified” and marketable tones.[/quote]
    …Pacers; Blues; Chargers

  • chance michaels | May 18, 2009 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”329861″]Hey, speaking of logo creep (he says, clutching at straws to somehow make this comment relevant to the blog) How irritating was the product placement (Nokia, Budweiser, any others? I don’t recall.) in the new Star Trek movie?

    And the use of the Beastie Boys’ “Sabotage” in the movie is brilliant if this is true.

    Umm… yeah, and I like the sublimated Starfleet emblems in the uniform shirts.[/quote]

    Better view of the fabric here.

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”329859″]Just wondering if 11 years qualifies as “always” since some folks think 30 years does.[/quote]
    Back off! I’m 26 years old and I graduated from that place!

    I know what sport is king; always was and always will be (at least until 2039, that is).

    ;-)

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”329861″]Hey, speaking of logo creep (he says, clutching at straws to somehow make this comment relevant to the blog) How irritating was the product placement (Nokia, Budweiser, any others? I don’t recall.) in the new Star Trek movie?[/quote]
    JTH, did you see Ebert’s column last Friday? The Trekies were trying to take him to task for not knowing all the minutia about how thinks work in space in the future. :-)

  • LarryB | May 18, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    “The Simpsons”.

    Minnesota Vikings apparel

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | May 18, 2009 at 6:00 pm |

    Lee[/quote]

    Since Columbus has gone to the all-yellow look, they really have no need for a change strip. No other team in MLS wears yellow in any form. Houston’s orange may be the only color that could create a clash. Which is a shame, because I really like the Crew’s black jersey, and the all yellow is just pretty garish looking, with a bunch of silly, curvy accent lines.

    http://www.albionroa...

    http://www.albionroa...

    Lee,

    I imagine Columbus will wear their dark strip when they travel to Seattle, too.

    It is necessary for them to have a second kit, because they may encounter other teams with yellow kits in the non-MLS competitions like the CONCACAF Champions League, U.S. Open Cup, etc.

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”329874″][quote comment=”329861″]Hey, speaking of logo creep (he says, clutching at straws to somehow make this comment relevant to the blog) How irritating was the product placement (Nokia, Budweiser, any others? I don’t recall.) in the new Star Trek movie?[/quote]
    JTH, did you see Ebert’s column last Friday? The Trekies were trying to take him to task for not knowing all the minutia about how thinks work in space in the future. :-)[/quote]
    This one?

    I love this:
    “I was lucky enough to see “Star Trek” this past Saturday with my husband, mother and father, who is a diehard fan of the original series and idolizes William Shatner to a degree that is not at all weird.”

  • anotherguy | May 18, 2009 at 6:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”329877″]This one?

    I love this:
    “I was lucky enough to see “Star Trek” this past Saturday with my husband, mother and father, who is a diehard fan of the original series and idolizes William Shatner to a degree that is not at all weird.”[/quote]

    That’s another good one!

    I have to admit I didn’t get much further than the argument over what is and isn’t logical when talking about a “space elevator”. :-)

  • Jeff P | May 18, 2009 at 6:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”329874″][quote comment=”329861″]Hey, speaking of logo creep (he says, clutching at straws to somehow make this comment relevant to the blog) How irritating was the product placement (Nokia, Budweiser, any others? I don’t recall.) in the new Star Trek movie?[/quote]
    JTH, did you see Ebert’s column last Friday? The Trekies were trying to take him to task for not knowing all the minutia about how thinks work in space in the future. :-)[/quote]
    More key is that he missed a lot of the major plot points, and as a result was claiming plot holes existed where they don’t exist at all.

    Ebert missed a lot of things or was just dead wrong on parts.

  • M.Princip | May 18, 2009 at 7:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”329817″]One thing I noted about the 1953 Lions game was the difference variety of helmets the Lions had. From the gold to round silver like Walker had, to leather, to ones with brown face masks.

    And the comparison of silver to gold is obvious.

    http://lh6.ggpht.com...

    http://lh5.ggpht.com...

    So true. It seems those early Riddell clear shells simply turned yellow(UV damage) quickly, if not, manufactured plastic with a goldish yellow tint from the get go? Not sure if these were Kra Lite?

  • Tom Farley | May 18, 2009 at 7:17 pm |

    Something got me thinking… have the Brewers always been in the National League?

    Nope.

    1970-1995, American League. They won the pennant in 1982.

    1996, moved to the Senior Circut.
    Sorry, but that’s incorrect. 1998 was the Brewers’ first season in the National League.

  • Tom Farley | May 18, 2009 at 7:20 pm |

    Oops. I was skimming like the wind and didn’t see the correction. My apologies.

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 7:21 pm |

    [quote]Ebert missed a lot of things or was just dead wrong on parts.[/quote]

    so, in essence, nothing has changed since ebert began his career, then

  • Flip | May 18, 2009 at 7:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”329852″][quote comment=”329847″]Here’s one right now.[/quote]Okay, if you like that uni then you’re guilty of SOMETHING.

    I don’t know what it is, but it’s something.

    :-)

    Me personally, I have a fond place in my heart for the classic Bucks uni from the days when Boerwinkle would be battling Alcindor. (For that matter, the Bulls uniforms from that era aren’t bad either: but then again the Bulls didn’t ever stray very far from that look.)[/quote]

    I liked the screen-print Buck. But then, I liked the Wasatch Mountain Jazz jersey, ‘cept it had nothing to do with music. The buck was a nice touch.

  • Michael Emody | May 18, 2009 at 8:13 pm |

    I was trying to describe the Simpsons episode with the Expos jersey, then decided to let this blog page do it for me: http://jonahkeri.com...

  • odessasteps magazine | May 18, 2009 at 8:18 pm |

    From the great Tom Lehrer:

    Fight fiercely, Harvard, fight, fight, fight
    Demonstrate to them our skill
    Albeit they possess the might
    Nonetheless we have the will
    How we shall celebrate our victory
    We shall invite the whole team up for tea, how jolly
    Hurl that spheroid down the field
    And fight, fight, fight

    Fight fiercely, Harvard, Fight, fight, fight
    Impress them with our prowess, do
    Oh, fellows, do not let the Crimson down
    Be of stout heart and true
    Come on, chaps, fight for Harvard’s glorious name
    Won’t it be peachy if we win the game, oh, goody
    Let’s try not to injure them
    But fight, fight, fight – Let’s not be rough, though
    Fight, fight, fight – And do fight fiercely
    Fight, fight, fight

  • Ry | May 18, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”329765″]I, for one, vote NO on the “Shea-shells”.

    Candela Structures sounds better than Shea-shells.

    As for the Black for the sake of black in the Mets unis…I have to admit that the argument FOR the Met’s use of black held water.

    The NY Giants colors were orange and black, so the use of the color is warranted, however tacky and unnecessary it might be.

    As for the pic of The Rotunda, I cannot concur because I was:

    A.too busy digging in a trash receptacle to find my ticket and

    B. too busy checking out the blonde in the “87 road jersey[/quote]

    I don’t remember the Mets ever using the Giants as an excuse when they introduced the black. That wouldn’t really make sense since it’s obvious that they have basically been trying to represent themselves as the inheritors of the Dodger legacy more than anything else

  • David | May 18, 2009 at 8:43 pm |

    why do you feel the need to call people who go to the racetrack degenerates and lowlifes? I am an employee of a MLB team and my wife runs training for the city and we goto the track. I guess we are $300,000 degenerates!

  • George | May 18, 2009 at 8:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”329781″]http://www.hatland.com/justadded.cfm
    Didn’t know if anyone has seen these yet, but now there are red “stars and stripes” hats. even worse if teams started to wear these with there uniforms.[/quote]

    What MLB needs to do is allow teams that look better (relatively speaking) with the navy caps (i.e. the Yankees, Braves, Twisn) to wear those and teams that look better with the red caps (Cardinals, Reds, Nationals) to wear those.

  • =bg= | May 18, 2009 at 8:56 pm |

    http://www.hatland.c...

    biggest nightmare ever

  • Paul G | May 18, 2009 at 9:02 pm |

    did anyone notice that Robinson Cano isn’t wearing a hat with the yankee stadium patch on the back?

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 9:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”329888″]why do you feel the need to call people who go to the racetrack degenerates and lowlifes? I am an employee of a MLB team and my wife runs training for the city and we goto the track. I guess we are $300,000 degenerates![/quote]

    why do i need to put [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags around every thing i post?

    david…i was kidding, and im sorry if i offended you…although i no longer go (or should say haven’t been since 2004ish), i used to frequent belmont park on occasion (both for the actual Stakes as well as other times) and the park was far from full of ‘lowlifes and degenerates’ …

    but the fact that there will be no triple crown possibility does mean that 50,000 of the normal 100,000ish the park gets for a possible ‘view of history’ won’t be there, and the more, shall we say, serious bettors will not have to fight the 40 deep lines (for those who still use windows), fight for seats and generally enjoy the third jewel of the triple crown in a more comfortable setting, and cannot be denied

    does that make those who attend “degenerates and low-lifes”? hardly

    i kid, sir, i kid

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 9:11 pm |

    on a completely unrelated note…

    can someone photoshop todd helton in a mets uni?

  • Mitch | May 18, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”329751″]RE: the coded wristband for baseball.

    That sounds absolutely worse in terms of the opposing team picking it off.

    So curve outside may have 3 numbers associated with it. Have one of the guys sitting on the bench write down every number seen, and what pitch follows.

    In 3 innings I bet you have most of them.

    Same goes for defense stealing offensive numbers, though that may take longer.

    At the very least once you have *one* number- say 231 means curve outside- every time you see 231 from then on, you have it.[/quote]

    What the article forgot to mention is that the coded inset is often changed every inning or every three innings, as well as the coach who has the main sheet actually crosses out number combinations that he calls as to not call them again on the sheet. Especially with pitch signals to the catcher, a new sheet is used each inning so that the numbers recorded by the opposing team are utterly useless.

    However, they market this as being totally “pick-proof” which isn’t completely true as the coaching staff must be prudent or else they can tip them off.

    I played Division I baseball and actually stole signs off of the coach giving the signals within one inning using this method.

  • LarryB | May 18, 2009 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”329885″]I was trying to describe the Simpsons episode with the Expos jersey, then decided to let this blog page do it for me: http://jonahkeri.com...

    HAHA yes that was another good Simpsons sports reference.

  • Geoff L | May 18, 2009 at 10:23 pm |

    Kevin millar wore stirrups today, so add another to the list. Photobucket won’t let me upload right now, but I have the picture to prove it. He can play virtually anywhere on the all-stirrups team.

  • Chance Michaels | May 18, 2009 at 10:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”329872″][quote comment=”329861″]Hey, speaking of logo creep (he says, clutching at straws to somehow make this comment relevant to the blog) How irritating was the product placement (Nokia, Budweiser, any others? I don’t recall.) in the new Star Trek movie?

    And the use of the Beastie Boys’ “Sabotage” in the movie is brilliant if this is true.

    Umm… yeah, and I like the sublimated Starfleet emblems in the uniform shirts.[/quote]

    Better view of the fabric here.[/quote]

    And, since Ricko mentioned Superman Returns, that’s the first case of “texture the costume with tiny logos” of which I’m aware.

  • Hibbs | May 18, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”329832″][quote comment=”329820″][quote comment=”329818″]What up uni freaks. Let me drop some knowledge on ya’ll.

    [b]The BEST uniforms EVER are the Anaheim Angels in the late nineties until 2001.[/b] I’m still buyin them hats on ebay all the time.

    I also love the Atlanta Hawks in 1996. That was my team bro. Those unis were hot.

    So bring it on. Ya’ll can beat that shiz.[/quote]

    Fail.
    1996 Atlanta Hawks:
    http://www.sportslog...
    2001 Anaheim Angels
    http://www.sportslog...

    Thanks. Now that’s tight. Check THAT shiz out. Any of ya’ll feelin those?[/quote]

    Ya’ll got served.

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 10:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”329898″]Kevin millar wore stirrups today, so add another to the list. Photobucket won’t let me upload right now, but I have the picture to prove it. He can play virtually anywhere on the all-stirrups team.[/quote]

    sweet…when did he last rock the stirrups? 2006?

  • Scott Davis | May 18, 2009 at 10:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”329894″]on a completely unrelated note…

    can someone photoshop todd helton in a mets uni?[/quote]

    it’s an attempt…

    http://farm3.static....

  • JTH | May 18, 2009 at 10:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”329901″][quote comment=”329898″]Kevin millar wore stirrups today, so add another to the list. Photobucket won’t let me upload right now, but I have the picture to prove it. He can play virtually anywhere on the all-stirrups team.[/quote]

    sweet…when did he last rock the stirrups? 2006?[/quote]
    I guess we can officially call him our first baseman now (and that’s where he was playing today).

    I believe we’re still looking for a shortstop, though.

  • Traxel | May 18, 2009 at 10:49 pm |

    Just wasted an hour and a half reading each comment and enjoyed every minute of it (sans the Harvard tiff).

    Chance, don’t change a thing on the beautiful Brew Crew Unis except for added striped stirrups. Bold colors, yes. Bottlecap M, perfect. Block Milwaukee, just right. Great work.

    Paul, remember, always listen to your architect, they are professionals! Also, keep the Candela name. The wrongness of the name is just one more colorful detail about the cool structures.

    One more thing, here is a fun stirruped lineup…

    http://i245.photobuc...

  • TD | May 18, 2009 at 10:52 pm |

    Did the Twins phase out the “MINNESOTA” road blue alts? They were in the “Twins” home blues at NYY tonight. I haven’t really been paying attention, so apologies if that’s just dumb.

  • Teebz | May 18, 2009 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”329901″][quote comment=”329898″]Kevin millar wore stirrups today, so add another to the list. Photobucket won’t let me upload right now, but I have the picture to prove it. He can play virtually anywhere on the all-stirrups team.[/quote]

    sweet…when did he last rock the stirrups? 2006?[/quote]

    He’s been wearing them all season in Toronto from what I’ve seen on TV – black with really low stirrup holes. Almost Thome-esque.

    But they are similar to what he wore in 2005 with the BoSox, and could simply be the same hosiery he wore with the Orioles in 2006. He didn’t wear them in Florida, however.

    What strikes me as odd is that he’s not a member of the MLBPA for being a replacement player in 1994 during the strike, despite him serving for 14 years now. I wonder if the MLBPA takes a cut of a “Millar” jersey like they do for other players?

  • Sonofahatter | May 18, 2009 at 11:05 pm |

    Anyone find the story by the helmet historian about the Lions gold odd, why wouldnt lots more “turn” gold as he says?

  • LI Phil | May 18, 2009 at 11:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”329906″]He didn’t wear them in Florida, however.[/quote]

    well…i beg to differ, since he did wear them ;) [though those could be ‘stirrup socks’ and not the real deal]

    from the photo archives, however, he didn’t go high cuffed in miama (at least from those i found), and that’s really the criterion, innit?

  • Joe Raskin | May 19, 2009 at 12:10 am |

    Watching the Mets game tonight reminded me…this year marks the 70th anniversary of the Dodgers’ script uniform. The only major difference, of course is the lettering on the cap (damn anyone responsible for that!!!)

  • Hitch | May 19, 2009 at 12:32 am |

    Please tell me that the only “Patriotic” display is going to be the Red hats this year and not this atrocity.

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • Bob A | May 19, 2009 at 1:16 am |

    [quote comment=”329855″]She’s tall.[/quote]
    And she is standing next to John Waters

  • JTH | May 19, 2009 at 1:27 am |

    [quote comment=”329909″]Watching the Mets game tonight reminded me…this year marks the 70th anniversary of the Dodgers’ script uniform. The only major difference, of course is the lettering on the cap (damn anyone responsible for that!!!)[/quote]
    I’m surprised they didn’t come up with a commemorative sleeve patch to mark the occasion.

  • Kyle | May 19, 2009 at 7:27 am |

    I was watching Home Improvement on TBS yesterday and Tim Taylor had a gold Lions helmet in his basement memorabilia. It was the episode where the parents pretend to be aliens and scare the older boys for teasing the dork.

  • chance michaels | May 19, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”329907″]Anyone find the story by the helmet historian about the Lions gold odd, why wouldnt lots more “turn” gold as he says?[/quote]

    That’s the thing – all the extant helmets from that year are gold. That could be interpreted as support for either position – the team painted them all gold, or they all have deteriorated for the reasons he said.

  • Big Al | May 19, 2009 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”329888″]why do you feel the need to call people who go to the racetrack degenerates and lowlifes? I am an employee of a MLB team and my wife runs training for the city and we goto the track. I guess we are $300,000 degenerates![/quote]
    Nothing spells class like boasting about your (alleged) household income on a message board like this.

  • Andrew | May 20, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”329887″][quote comment=”329765″]I, for one, vote NO on the “Shea-shells”.

    Candela Structures sounds better than Shea-shells.

    As for the Black for the sake of black in the Mets unis…I have to admit that the argument FOR the Met’s use of black held water.

    The NY Giants colors were orange and black, so the use of the color is warranted, however tacky and unnecessary it might be.

    As for the pic of The Rotunda, I cannot concur because I was:

    A.too busy digging in a trash receptacle to find my ticket and

    B. too busy checking out the blonde in the “87 road jersey[/quote]

    I don’t remember the Mets ever using the Giants as an excuse when they introduced the black. That wouldn’t really make sense since it’s obvious that they have basically been trying to represent themselves as the inheritors of the Dodger legacy more than anything else[/quote]

    Day late and a dollar short, but the Mets did play their first two seasons in the Polo Grounds, lest we forget. That stupid trapazoid-shaped section of their right field fence – the way that part is recessed back for no apparent reason – is reminiscent of the recessed box in centerfield at the Polo Grounds more than anything else.

  • Sherman | May 20, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    Your friend Harold Mellor needn’t have scrounged around the Globe basement for this newspaper page. A very good copy of the page is on display at the Patriots Hall of Fame at Patriot Place in Foxboro, MA, in plain view for everyone. I wish I had a picture, but it’s there.

    Nevertheless, interesting comment on the Globe following the Braves. These days the Bruins are lucky to get coverage.