You’re Riding High in April, Shot Down in May

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By Phil Hecken and featuring guest author Lance Smith.

For the past several months, the comments section of Uni Watch has been graced with the uni-centric eyes of a certain reader who posts as “Squiddie.” I was especially enamored with not only the quality of his posts, but with the penchant he had for selecting fantastic photos which have been released onto the Life archive hosted by Google. Determined not only to get our man Squiddie to explore this wonderful resource further (and in the process, teach us how to go about it), I wanted to introduce him more fully to the UW audience. Squiddie, it seems, is one Lance Smith, and he’s a fascinating character and fantastic poster. So, without further ado, lets meet “Squiddie” and find out more about the Life archives, how to go about navigating them. I also talked him into “guest writing” a column using his keen eye towards selecting a few well placed (and researched) photos from the Life pages.

Phil Hecken: “Squiddie”?

Lance Smith: It’s left over from the Usenet days. (You kids get offa my net!) It’s stolen from a recurring joke on the rec.arts.comics newsgroup. It just has a nice ring to it. Plus everyone loves squids, right?

PH: Where does your interest in unis begin?

LS: I grew up in Minnesota with what I consider to be really classic uniforms from the Twins, Vikings and North Stars. Then it all went to hell when the Twins went with powder blue (see last week) and then the North Stars started adding black to their uniforms. (Oddly, I loved the Minnesota Kicks and their Wheaties color scheme.) So through much of the dark days of the 70s and 80s, I didn’t care much about what teams wore because the local teams were so awful.

I probably became more interested with the explosion in interest in minor league baseball in the late 80s. Established teams started to dump their parent club names and tried to make their own identities. There was also the rise of the independent leagues. I would pick up the Baseball America Directory every year just to check out the new team names and logos. Some uni attempts were and are pretty sad, but there was a lot change. The major leagues just can’t, and probably shouldn’t, change that quickly.

PH: So, favorite unis?

LS: My all time favorite shirts are the Renault Gitane cycling jerseys from the Bernard Hinault era. Second place would be the Newcastle United home shirts from 1999-2001 when they were sponsored by Newcastle Brown Ale. Yes, in European soccer/football you have to consider the shirt sponsor when determining the quality of the uni. (Someone in Thailand loves Newcastle shirts so much he has a blog up here.)

PH: Why the Life archive?

LS: I just came across a news item saying that Google was hosting the archive and started poking around . It’s one of the few instances of having both quality and quantity. There’s the attraction of finding famous photos of iconic political and Hollywood figures mixed in with a photo of a refrigerator in 1940s Pittsburgh. You just never know what you’ll find. J. Edgar Hoover shows Shirley Temple how to use a mechanical horse? Yeah, it’s in there and just a little creepy.

Plus there’s a certain amount of mystery. With the limited labels and tags, you often have to do the legwork. Given a date and a team, can you figure out who is the subject of a photo? Who is this Senator doing card tricks? It’s Clint Courtney. But who is he showing the trick to? Well…

PH: Heh. Thanks Lance! Shall we let the readers guess?

And so, ladies and gentlemen of Uni Watch, I present you with this ‘guest entry’ from Lance Smith. Enjoy.

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If you’re over a certain age you probably grew up with Life magazine. Even if your family didn’t subscribe, you read it (or more accurately, looked at the pictures) in waiting rooms and barber shops. You killed time at your grandparents’ house by leafing through old back issues in their basement. It’s what you grabbed if you had free time in the school library.

Launched on November 23, 1936, Life was published weekly until December 8, 1972. (It was later reincarnated as a monthly magazine, and then again as a newspaper supplement.) Each issue was made up of about 50 pages of photos and their captions. Some of the photographs became iconic and many of Life’s photographers became famous.

Google announced that they would be hosting the Life archive in November 2008. Due to some unexpected free time, I’ve been looking through and blogging links from the Life archives since January. While most of my links have been non-sports photos, the first photo I did link to was Bill Veeck talking with Salvador Dali.

The Life photo archive is vast and not well organized. It seems to be continually growing, but maybe I’m just finding new things. Many photos aren’t properly labeled and some are only labeled with generic descriptions. While Life wasn’t as well-known for its sports photography, compared to its news and celebrity photos, there are some great sports collections to sift through. Here are some of my suggestions to working through the archive.

1. To search the Life archive, you just need to include source:life in any Google image search (or you can use this portal).

2. The archive can be roughly divided into three sections: reference photos, weekly Life photography, and more recent celebrity photographs. If you really want a 1980s photo of Kirk Gibson and a Penthouse Pet, it’s in there.

3. Try general searches. You’re more likely to find interesting images if you look for a sport instead of specific team or athlete.

4. If you’re looking for specific images, try different approaches. For example, try separate searches for “Green Bay” and “Packers.” Either label might be used. Also try the name of specific athletes without the name of their city or team.

5. Reduce wide searches by eliminating keywords from the search. If you’re searching football and don’t need the photos of the LSU football team, add “-lsu” to your search. Most reference photos will have abbreviated labels. This makes them easy to eliminate.

6. Search for specific photographers or eliminate them from the search as necessary. While not all photos are dated, almost all of them credit the photographer who took the picture. If you find a photo you like, try to add the photographer’s name to the search.

7. Use decade labels. Many images without other labels will have a decade label such as 1940s or 1950s. Use these.

8. Try misspelling words. There is a set of 200+ photos under “Wimbleton.” A set of photos of Juan Manuel Fangio is filed under Fangie at Lemans. Many photos of Muhammad Ali are under Cassius Clay long after he dropped that name.

9. Be careful with plurals. Try searching for both the singular and plural of words.

10. Be patient. Keep trying. Bookmark the good stuff. You might forget where you found that photo of Minnie Minoso.

Of interest to UW are the sports profile shots taken of players in the locker room or dugout. The photos on the field are often too far away for details, but the photos in the locker room, often taken for profiles of particular players, can be Uni gold.

Cincinnati manager George “Birdie” Tebbetts was featured on the cover of July 8, 1957 issue of Time magazine. His Redlegs had finished two games behind Brooklyn in 1956 and put together a 12 game winning streak in the beginning of May 1957. Here he wears the sleeveless jersey adopted in 1956. Behind him you can see the pile of batting helmets. The white cap he’s abusing here was adopted in 1957. You don’t get much stripier than those stirrups.

Ernie Banks autographing baseballs in August 1955. This would be Banks’ second complete year with the Cubs and he would hit 44 homer runs and 117 RBIs. Good view of the Cubs logo and the zipper on the jersey. It’s also a very clean uniform design. What I like about this photo of Banks walking through Wrigley (other than the PBR cases) is how loose his hat is. We’re used to players caps being worn tight on their head.

Sal “The Barber” Maglie might be best known as Jim Bouton’s pitching coach in Ball Four. In 1952 he was still pitching for the New York Giants. Maglie had been a 23 game winner in 1951 and was on his way to 18 wins in 1952. I mainly like these photos because they show him interacting with the fans.

Do baseball teams still get nicknames? The Whiz Kids were the 1950 Philadelphia Phillies who, after a late season collapse in September, won the pennant on the final day at Ebbets Field. This photo of Willie “Puddin Head” Jones in September shows off the new Phillies pinstripe uniform. You can see his cap in the locker behind him. Compare it to the older uniform worn by Jones in Spring Training. Also check out this catcher’s mitt with crosshairs. Sort of the low tech version of the mitts with international orange to give a better target to young pitchers.

There seem to be more photos of the Dodgers and the Yankees in the archive. Not surprising as Life was based in New York and both were dominant during the 1950s. Roy Campanella shows off his battered hands in a 1956 profile. Good close up of the Dodgers logo. From the same profile, Pee Wee Reese changing in front of his locker is just a good photo of Dodgers locker room.

Sam Jehroe had been a star in the Negro Leagues. In 1950 he became the first African-American player on the Boston Braves and went on to win the 1950 National League Rookie of the Year. I like this photo of him in front of his locker because of the strange details like the Wheaties boxes and the Trailways calendar. Plus it’s a good shot of a classic Braves uniform. These shots here and here show Jethroe talking with manager Billy Southwork. Notice the missing light bulb and the strange pipes next to the bull pen phone. Still you gotta love those uniforms.

Finally it’s the Giants vs. the Braves in 1950. Jim Hearn confers with an umpire. Just a good shot of the scoreboard and advertising at Braves Field.

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Phil here. Kudos and thanks Squiddie Lance for that fantastic write up. I’m sure he’ll be back again with me for more. I know I’m gonna change that tune, when I’m back on top, back on top in June.

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Back For More: So, yesterday I took some heat for my lack of photoshop skills (and rightly so, since I basically have none). BUT … reader, OCD-DYIer and all-around good guy Robert Marshall does. So, he offered to mock-up those Nats “alts” I had proposed yesterday. And he did a much better job than I could ever have hoped to do myself. So, with that … I resubmit my proposed changes for the Natinals away unis:

Here’s the current away jersey without the “DC” patch & logo creep. Not bad, I admit. But I think it looks better without the white outline. Pushing the envelope just a tad further, here’s the roadie with the wordmark in blue, with white outline. And then, there’s that jersey with blue wordmark & no white outline. And just for shits and giggles, I asked Robert to make a couple more — that same jersey, with blue piping, and that same jersey with no piping at all. I think I’m in love. I must note, Mr. Marshall thinks the Nats jersey with the red lettering, but sans the white outline, is the way to go, and it must have killed him to have me ask him to do the blue. But that last one — the one with NO PIPING and BLUE WORDMARK (which y’all probably find boring as hell), I think that’s what the Nats should go with, as long as they’re going to wear blue caps. But that’s just me. Thanks Robert, for the p-shops! You da man!

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Uni Matchup Of the Year took place last evening when the Seattle Rainers and Oakland Oaks engaged in a good old fashioned game. Actually it was the Oakland A’s and Seattle Mariners in 1939 (I believe — MLB Network announcers [or the announcers from which MLB was getting the feed] were kind of uncertain if it was 1937, 1938 or 1939) throwbacks (from the old Pacific Coast League). Generally a beautiful looking game, except that the modern day catchers gear kind of ruined it just a bit. Well, that and the fact that the “Oaks” wore white shoes, which I’m fairly certain wasn’t a part of the original uni package. They did go all out on the unis and helmets (although, back then, they didn’t wear helmets), however, and damn … look at this ting of beauty. And here’s another great look. Only one other thing (sorry, no pics and I didn’t get screen grabs) which was a little bothersome — the coaches all wore the “modern” jackets in the dugouts, so visually, it was not a good (or matching) look. Photos last evening were very slow to hit the wires, so if anyone finds more today, please post them. I’m not certain if Paul is planning to do a write up on this in the coming days, but any and all visual evidence of this game would be greatly appreciated.

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This and That: Hole. Lee. Shit. … What the hell is Tim McGraw doing with the Kentucky Derby trophy? … “It really hasn’t sunken in to the fullest that we lost a guy that was unbelievable” …Whoa — Bimbos everywhere … Speaking of Bimbos, I think I’ll get the kit top and socks for Paul for his next birthday … Ping Pong doesn’t get a lot of UW love — and with good reason … Lots of baseball news here, including a jab at the Natinals, in this first month roundup … The obligatory “steeples and rail shot” for Mine That Bird — and the obligatory pose and poseurs … So this is Progress? … If you think Seattle and Oakland were rocking the throwbacks, Amherst & Williams are REALLY going to rock the diamond, old school style … Can anyone tell me who makes these kits? … This may be the ONLY time you ever hear me wishing for a sponsor’s name on the back of a jersey … More Derby pics: This is either really right or really wrong (and in case you’re actually wondering — her name is Randi Baremore) … “The uniforms worn during an April 11 sectional match at Oregon State were impermissible. The offense? Five players were playing without pants. Or underwear.” — Only at the U of Zero … Amazingly, the rest of the league is starting to notice that the Yankees are playing in front of a lot of empty seatsJames Huening found this and wanted to share: Randy Brown is selling the three championship rings he won with the Bulls … Sad news last evening, as Jack Kemp passed peacefully into the presence of the Lord shortly after 6 o’clock.

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As funny as it may seem, some people get their kicks stompin’ on a dream. But I don’t let it, let it get me down — ’cause this fine old world, it keeps spinnin’ around. Have a great Sunday folks.

 

100 comments to You’re Riding High in April, Shot Down in May

  • Jefferson D | May 3, 2009 at 7:52 am |

    I liked today’s post.

    I enjoy looking at these Life archive photos. I’m 21. Most every photo is before my time. Hell, I barely even have a time yet. I picture the time before my dad was born in black and white because that’s the only way I’ve seen it, but when I look at these old uniforms, what strikes me is the detail and quality of the piping, lettering, patches, etc. My instinct is to assume that these old uniforms should be of lesser quality than today’s, but when I see it and think about it, it makes sense that it’s not. It could be argued to be the opposite. I don’t know, I just felt like putting that out there. And yes, I got the Sinatra references.

  • timmy b | May 3, 2009 at 8:21 am |

    Those Life photos are really good stuff. Thanks, Squiddie & LI Phil.

    It seems totally forgotten, but there was another pictorial magazine, IMHO, at least the equal of Life thru much of Life era, Look. I think Look was a little bit more sports oriented than Life. Look folded in 1971. It was a bi-weekly while Life was a weekly. They were major rivals. I think both had circulation numbers in the 6 million range at their peaks.

    I think the reason Life is fondly remembered and Look is basically forgotten is that Life was a part of the Henry Luce Time-Life-(Sports Illustrated) conglomerate while Look was published by – at least this author – an unknown quantity.

    I am sure another gold mine of great photography exists if such an archive of Look pictures can be unearthed in the bear future.

  • Ricko | May 3, 2009 at 8:22 am |

    One other thing re: “Oaks” vs. “Rainiers”.
    Oaks didn’t wear forest green.
    They wore kelly.
    And it’s NOT the same thing. On a color value scale (light to dark) that would be like saying navy blue and royal blue were the same color.
    http://farm4.static....

    How can so many teams do some much homework for games like these and then blow one of the really key elements? Either that or simply change it to suit their current bias. What, the A’s couldn’t bring themselves to wear such a bright color? Celtics seem to be able to handle it. So did the A’s teams won W-S.

    —Ricko

  • Hibbs | May 3, 2009 at 8:31 am |

    What’s up with Brave’s manager Billy Southwork’s shoes/cleats? Those are cleats with regular soles. Right? Was that common?
    I would love a pair.

  • Roger Faso | May 3, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    Nice gallery of Oakland v. Seattle here …

    http://scores.espn.g...

    One of the best looking throwback games, ever. Oakland should use those unis for the rest of the season. Even though the white shoes aren’t historically accurate, I think they work well with the white lids.

  • Roger Faso | May 3, 2009 at 8:54 am |

    fanfrickentastic!

    http://scores.espn.g...

  • Jefferson D | May 3, 2009 at 9:02 am |

    [quote comment=”327229″]One other thing re: “Oaks” vs. “Rainiers”.
    Oaks didn’t wear forest green.
    They wore kelly.
    And it’s NOT the same thing. On a color value scale (light to dark) that would be like saying navy blue and royal blue were the same color.
    http://farm4.static....

    How can so many teams do some much homework for games like these and then blow one of the really key elements? Either that or simply change it to suit their current bias. What, the A’s couldn’t bring themselves to wear such a bright color? Celtics seem to be able to handle it. So did the A’s teams won W-S.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    https://gameuseduniv...

    vs

    http://scores.espn.g...

  • Jeremy Brahm | May 3, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    I’m reading the story about the Seibu Dome in the NY Times.

    I went to Seibu Kyujo (Ball Park) when I was at Waseda in 1994. An open air stadium with a grassy patch in the outfield where you could sit and watch a game.

    http://image.blog.li...

    Overhead shot in 1989
    http://w3land.mlit.g...

    But now with the roof, because it is still an open air stadium, to me they have killed a great experience.

    http://image.blog.li...

    Sadly, almost all of the new stadiums for NPB are domes, Tokyo Dome, Nagoya Dome, Osaka Dome, Fukuoka Dome and Sapporo Dome. I’ll give you the Fukuoka Dome because of the retractable roof (got to see it open and close in one game, that was cool) and the one in Sapporo because you need a dome with their cold snowy winters.

    But the new Carp stadium is pretty sweet in my opinion.

    http://ja.wikipedia....

    The Seibu Group built the roof in 1997-1998.

  • Taha | May 3, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    Randi Baremore?! is that her stage name? evidently not according to facebook, but wow!

  • JTH | May 3, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”327229″]One other thing re: “Oaks” vs. “Rainiers”.
    Oaks didn’t wear forest green.
    They wore kelly.
    And it’s NOT the same thing. On a color value scale (light to dark) that would be like saying navy blue and royal blue were the same color.
    http://farm4.static....

    How can so many teams do some much homework for games like these and then blow one of the really key elements? Either that or simply change it to suit their current bias. What, the A’s couldn’t bring themselves to wear such a bright color? Celtics seem to be able to handle it. So did the A’s teams won W-S.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well, at least they didn’t switch it to forest green & gold…

    Last night, my wife and I were watching the Bulls-Celtics game and she made the comment “Y’know, green is a really good color for sports teams.” to which I responded “Yeah, and hardly anyone uses it anymore.”

    Coincidentally, the Blackhawks were playing the Canucks at the same time. I’m not sure if they wear a true kelly green, but they are one of the few that wear a green that is definitely not “forest” or “lime.”

    Anyway, I was trying to figure out which pro teams wear kelly or close to kelly green unis.

    All I came up with off the top of my head were:
    NBA: Celtics, Mavericks (sometimes), Timberwolves (trim color).
    NHL: Canucks. (The Blackhawks have it in two of the feathers and in the tomahawks of their logos, but that doesn’t really count)
    MLB: nobody
    NFL: nobody

    So who did I miss (in those four leagues)?

  • JTH | May 3, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    Pair this or this with the red cap and you’ve got a pretty good road uni.

  • odessa steps magazin | May 3, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    Suicide Squid~!

  • Juan Grande | May 3, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    The old Iggles uniforms were pretty close to a kelly green. The green pocket flaps on the Oakland players last night were awesome. It was a great surprise to be flipping through the channels last night and stumble upon the Oaks/Rainiers game. Stirrups and socks all around for everyone!

  • Beardface | May 3, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    Man… they used to let photographers everywhere during sporting events…

    What a great shot!

  • Paul Lukas | May 3, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”327231″]Nice gallery of Oakland v. Seattle here …

    http://scores.espn.g...

    One of the best looking throwback games, ever. Oakland should use those unis for the rest of the season. Even though the white shoes aren’t historically accurate, I think they work well with the white lids.[/quote]

    More photos, and larger versions of the ones already posted, here:
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Beardface | May 3, 2009 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”327241″][quote comment=”327231″]Nice gallery of Oakland v. Seattle here …

    http://scores.espn.g...

    One of the best looking throwback games, ever. Oakland should use those unis for the rest of the season. Even though the white shoes aren’t historically accurate, I think they work well with the white lids.[/quote]

    More photos, and larger versions of the ones already posted, here:
    http://www.flickr.co...
    Paul, despite your best efforts, ESPN still doesn’t Get It…

    SportsCenter was relentlessly mocking the throwbacks during their broadcast last night/this morning…

  • Paul Lukas | May 3, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”327242″]SportsCenter was relentlessly mocking the throwbacks during their broadcast last night/this morning…[/quote]

    Really? What did they say??

    I’ve just added an additional photo to that Flickr set:
    http://farm4.static....

    Also added the two-page press release for the game.

  • DenverGregg | May 3, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”327236″][quote comment=”327229″]One other thing re: “Oaks” vs. “Rainiers”.
    Oaks didn’t wear forest green.
    They wore kelly.
    And it’s NOT the same thing. On a color value scale (light to dark) that would be like saying navy blue and royal blue were the same color.
    http://farm4.static....

    How can so many teams do some much homework for games like these and then blow one of the really key elements? Either that or simply change it to suit their current bias. What, the A’s couldn’t bring themselves to wear such a bright color? Celtics seem to be able to handle it. So did the A’s teams won W-S.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Well, at least they didn’t switch it to forest green & gold…

    Last night, my wife and I were watching the Bulls-Celtics game and she made the comment “Y’know, green is a really good color for sports teams.” to which I responded “Yeah, and hardly anyone uses it anymore.”

    Coincidentally, the Blackhawks were playing the Canucks at the same time. I’m not sure if they wear a true kelly green, but they are one of the few that wear a green that is definitely not “forest” or “lime.”

    Anyway, I was trying to figure out which pro teams wear kelly or close to kelly green unis.

    All I came up with off the top of my head were:
    NBA: Celtics, Mavericks (sometimes), Timberwolves (trim color).
    NHL: Canucks. (The Blackhawks have it in two of the feathers and in the tomahawks of their logos, but that doesn’t really count)
    MLB: nobody
    NFL: nobody

    So who did I miss (in those four leagues)?[/quote]
    The Dallas Stars’ trim is, IMO, closer to Kelly than to Forest, but it’s certainly downplayed compared to the old days.

    Sadly even the NoDak Fighting Sioux are downplaying kelly green in what used to be the best looking uni in sports. I guess its down to the Saskatchewan Roughriders and Celtic FC.

  • Boonie | May 3, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    Some Jack Kemp pre-politician photo links-

    http://latimesblogs....

    http://politics247.f...

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • kj | May 3, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    Sure, it’s a cleaner image… but it’s still the Washington Dodgers.

  • Beardface | May 3, 2009 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”327243″][quote comment=”327242″]SportsCenter was relentlessly mocking the throwbacks during their broadcast last night/this morning…[/quote]

    Really? What did they say??

    I’ve just added an additional photo to that Flickr set:
    http://farm4.static....

    Also added the two-page press release for the game.[/quote]
    Basically just laughed during the whole highlight and at the end added that they should be burned after the game and never seen again…

    This was for both teams

  • JTH | May 3, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”327247″][quote comment=”327243″][quote comment=”327242″]SportsCenter was relentlessly mocking the throwbacks during their broadcast last night/this morning…[/quote]

    Really? What did they say??

    I’ve just added an additional photo to that Flickr set:
    http://farm4.static....

    Also added the two-page press release for the game.[/quote]
    Basically just laughed during the whole highlight and at the end added that they should be burned after the game and never seen again…

    This was for both teams[/quote]
    Fuck BooYahCenter. The show has been crap for at least 15 years.

  • JTH | May 3, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”327244″]
    The Dallas Stars’ trim is, IMO, closer to Kelly than to Forest, but it’s certainly downplayed compared to the old days.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought about the Stars, but I see their green as something definitely too dark to call “Kelly”.

    On the other hand, I always thought the Northstars’ green was actually lighter than a true Kelly. It wasn’t quite “lime” but it certainly had more yellow in it than in the Whalers’ green.

  • WarDamnEagle | May 3, 2009 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”327248″][quote comment=”327247″][quote comment=”327243″][quote comment=”327242″]SportsCenter was relentlessly mocking the throwbacks during their broadcast last night/this morning…[/quote]

    Really? What did they say??

    I’ve just added an additional photo to that Flickr set:
    http://farm4.static....

    Also added the two-page press release for the game.[/quote]
    Basically just laughed during the whole highlight and at the end added that they should be burned after the game and never seen again…

    This was for both teams[/quote]
    Fuck BooYahCenter. The show has been crap for at least 15 years.[/quote]

    It’s clearly a “disgrace.”

  • JTH | May 3, 2009 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”327250″]It’s clearly a “disgrace.”[/quote]
    Whoa! Take it easy. We’re not talking about football helmets. It’s just a TV show.

  • LI Phil | May 3, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    video of last night’s game (small box in upper right-hand corner of link)

  • Hibbs | May 3, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”327251″][quote comment=”327250″]It’s clearly a “disgrace.”[/quote]
    Whoa! Take it easy. We’re not talking about football helmets. It’s just a TV show.[/quote]

    Once again. Very nice.

  • Stuby | May 3, 2009 at 11:48 am |

    The Sonics wore kelly green before they moved, didn’t they? Or was the green a darker shade on those 2nd generation “arch” unis.

  • Mark | May 3, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    Word on the street is the new stars and stripes hats this year are going to be red instead of navy

  • scott | May 3, 2009 at 12:14 pm |

    Connecticut Defenders are wearing white jerseys with pink pinstripes and wordmark this weekend, with a pink ribbon on the right shoulder:

    http://web.minorleag...

    Very well done, and better than the solid pink uniforms it seems most teams end up wearing.

  • David | May 3, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    Has anyone noticed that today’s ‘vest jerseys’ are really just shirts that the manufacturer left the sleeves off of? If you look at a late ’50’s picture of the Reds or Pirates, you can plainly see that they wore true ‘vests’ with the cut way up on the shouder. The cheap imitations worn by today’s clubs look ridiculous.

  • Teebz | May 3, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”327249″][quote comment=”327244″]
    The Dallas Stars’ trim is, IMO, closer to Kelly than to Forest, but it’s certainly downplayed compared to the old days.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought about the Stars, but I see their green as something definitely too dark to call “Kelly”.

    On the other hand, I always thought the Northstars’ green was actually lighter than a true Kelly. It wasn’t quite “lime” but it certainly had more yellow in it than in the Whalers’ green.[/quote]

    Oakland/California Golden Seals were green.

  • Paul Lukas | May 3, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”327255″]Word on the street is the new stars and stripes hats this year are going to be red instead of navy[/quote]

    Really? I hadn’t heard that. What “street” did you hear it on?

  • mmwatkin | May 3, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”327255″]Word on the street is the new stars and stripes hats this year are going to be red instead of navy[/quote]

    Or MLB could just be smart* and create a blue AND a red S&S cap and let each team decide which to wear based on what would look better with their respective uni.

    And hey…you could sell each version on shop.mlb.com for even more money!

    *Actually, if they were REALLY smart they would scrap the whole idea since it is pointless.

  • Squiddie | May 3, 2009 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”327238″]Suicide Squid~![/quote]

    Black Ink Irregulars Assemble!

  • LI Phil | May 3, 2009 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”327260″][quote comment=”327255″]Word on the street is the new stars and stripes hats this year are going to be red instead of navy[/quote]

    Or MLB could just be smart* and create a blue AND a red S&S cap and let each team decide which to wear based on what would look better with their respective uni.

    And hey…you could sell each version on shop.mlb.com for even more money!

    *Actually, if they were REALLY smart they would scrap the whole idea since it is pointless.[/quote]

    i nominate thee to succeed Allan Huber Selig

    completely agreed…the caps are pointless, stupid, disingenuous and bordering on outright disrespectful — but hey, the kids love em and people will pony up $35 a pop, so may as well make ‘em and basically force teams to wear em

    and just to “play along” with your suggestion — why not let each team wear one in the respective cap color which closest matches their own unischeme, including adding a white lid for teams who have neither blue nor red in their uniform?

  • Paul Lukas | May 3, 2009 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”327257″]Has anyone noticed that today’s ‘vest jerseys’ are really just shirts that the manufacturer left the sleeves off of? If you look at a late ’50’s picture of the Reds or Pirates, you can plainly see that they wore true ‘vests’ with the cut way up on the shouder. The cheap imitations worn by today’s clubs look ridiculous.[/quote]

    Yes, today’s vests are simply sleeveless jerseys. The vests of yesteryear had a much narrower cut across the shoulders, which looked much, much better. Sheer laziness on Majestic’s part — they don’t want to use a different tailoring pattern for vests.

  • LI Phil | May 3, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    i do have some photoshop skills…not much, but some…

    MLB yankees “red cap”

    versus this

    …yeah…the red cap is a ‘good’ idea

  • The Ol Goaler | May 3, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    Pedant: Jethroe is talking with Hall of Famer Billy Southworth

    And that Seals photo had to come from the time Charley Finley owned ‘em… check out the white skates!

  • Mark | May 3, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”327259″][quote comment=”327255″]Word on the street is the new stars and stripes hats this year are going to be red instead of navy[/quote]

    Really? I hadn’t heard that. What “street” did you hear it on?[/quote]

    The company that I work for heard it from the vendors

  • Mike Engle | May 3, 2009 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”327265″]i do have some photoshop skills…not much, but some…

    MLB yankees “red cap”

    versus this

    …yeah…the red cap is a ‘good’ idea[/quote]
    Spike Lee approves.
    (Gag. Hated the Yankees’ vets caps because the navy didn’t match. It was a subtle difference, but the colors were definitely off. Red would be even worse.)
    Photoshop request: To minimize color clashing while keeping the marketing scheme patriotic tribute intact, I postulated a star-spangled cap logo superimposed on the normal hat. Anybody care to show me what that would look like?

  • The Ol Goaler | May 3, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”327265″]i do have some photoshop skills…not much, but some…

    MLB yankees “red cap”

    versus this

    …yeah…the red cap is a ‘good’ idea[/quote]
    Only if your regular cap is red… See?

  • JTH | May 3, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”327258″][quote comment=”327249″][quote comment=”327244″]
    The Dallas Stars’ trim is, IMO, closer to Kelly than to Forest, but it’s certainly downplayed compared to the old days.[/quote]
    Yeah, I thought about the Stars, but I see their green as something definitely too dark to call “Kelly”.

    On the other hand, I always thought the Northstars’ green was actually lighter than a true Kelly. It wasn’t quite “lime” but it certainly had more yellow in it than in the Whalers’ green.[/quote]

    Oakland/California Golden Seals were green.[/quote]
    OK, yeah. Sure. So did the Toronto St. Pats. But I’m not really talking about teams that have worn green historically. I mean today. Very few teams wear a color that you could call Kelly green today.

  • mtjaws | May 3, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    Here is a photo gallery of the best player at each uniform number for the Dolphins. Unfortunately, they couldn’t even find a picture of #2 wearing a #2 jersey.

    http://www.sun-senti...

  • Squiddie | May 3, 2009 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”327263″][quote comment=”327257″]Has anyone noticed that today’s ‘vest jerseys’ are really just shirts that the manufacturer left the sleeves off of? If you look at a late ’50’s picture of the Reds or Pirates, you can plainly see that they wore true ‘vests’ with the cut way up on the shouder. The cheap imitations worn by today’s clubs look ridiculous.[/quote]

    Yes, today’s vests are simply sleeveless jerseys. The vests of yesteryear had a much narrower cut across the shoulders, which looked much, much better. Sheer laziness on Majestic’s part — they don’t want to use a different tailoring pattern for vests.[/quote]

    I know the Twins’ vests have looked sloppy. Wasn’t sure if the players were just wearing them looser.

    Here’s some samples of older vests

    Elroy Face in the 1960 Pirates vest

    Wally Post and Don Hoak in the 1957 Redlegs vest

    There’s Ted Kluszewski, but he’s a special case

  • mtjaws | May 3, 2009 at 1:46 pm |

    In that Dolphin countdown, I noticed some odd/hidden TV numbers on #85 Nick Buoniconti.

    http://www.sun-senti...

  • LI Phil | May 3, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”327272″]There’s Ted Kluszewski, but he’s a special case[/quote]

    nice finds, lance

    wasn’t big klu almost responsible for the introduction of the reds vest? i thought i heard/read somewhere the reds were sick of him cutting off his sleeves to show off the guns they basically said, “fuck it…we’re gonna wear vests now” … or is that just some kind of urban legend?

    never was a fan of the vest look…but i gotta say…this was one i could live with

  • mike 2 | May 3, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    Just two thoughts:

    1. Very nice Sinatra reference

    2. I know we’ve discussed this here before, but a reasonable number of the pictures come up as backwards.

    http://tbn0.google.c...

    (there was also a Terry Sawchuk picture)

    I think Phil had suggested it was because the negatives had been printed backwards originally, I’m not sure if anyone has any more information on that.

  • Squiddie | May 3, 2009 at 2:18 pm |

    Someone seems to have gone out of their way to label some of the Big Klu photos in the Life archives.

    Check out the Chicago White Sox uni he’s wearing in 1959. He’s almost turned it into a vest.

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 2:39 pm |

    http://img.photobuck...

    From the Golden Age of Baseball series. Here is old color picture of Oakland Oaks

  • Craig | May 3, 2009 at 2:44 pm |

    Yesterday after the Nats game they had their 4th annual Dream Foundation Gala and auction. Where they auctioned off the famous “Natinals” jersey worn by Adam Dunn. Apparently it went for $8,500.

    Here is a picture. Quality stinks, but I’ll post again if a better picture surfaces.

    http://www.gameusedu...

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”327240″]Man… they used to let photographers everywhere during sporting events…

    What a great shot![/quote]

    Look at the photgrapher in the endzone of this old NFL game.
    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 2:52 pm |

    I love the Life archive.It would be nice if Look also did this. They did seem to have more sports. They had the Look All Americans for football.

    And my first ever contribution to UW was from a cousins 1950’s Look for old color on color football action.

  • Peter S | May 3, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    If anyone is interested in a look at Ferguson Jenkins, or the 1972-73 Chicago Cubs seasons, with a lot of spring training and in season footage the National Film Board of Canada has a whole documentary hosted on its site: http://www.nfb.ca/fi...

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 3:22 pm |

    And I too looked for highlights of the Oakland Seattle game last night. And yes the guys laughed at the throwbacks. Do those guys like ANY throwback? Seems like most of the time a throwback is worn announcers mock them

  • JTH | May 3, 2009 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”327276″]Someone seems to have gone out of their way to label some of the Big Klu photos in the Life archives.

    Check out the Chicago White Sox uni he’s wearing in 1959. He’s almost turned it into a vest.[/quote]
    White stirrups. That means the photo was taken during the World Series, right?

  • JTH | May 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”327281″]If anyone is interested in a look at Ferguson Jenkins, or the 1972-73 Chicago Cubs seasons, with a lot of spring training and in season footage the National Film Board of Canada has a whole documentary hosted on its site: http://www.nfb.ca/fi...
    Very timely, since the Cubs retired #31 for him (and Greg Maddux) today.

    http://chicago.cubs....

  • Paul Lukas | May 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”327283″][quote comment=”327276″]Someone seems to have gone out of their way to label some of the Big Klu photos in the Life archives.

    Check out the Chicago White Sox uni he’s wearing in 1959. He’s almost turned it into a vest.[/quote]
    White stirrups. That means the photo was taken during the World Series, right?[/quote]

    Keee-reck.

  • Eddie | May 3, 2009 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”327271″]Here is a photo gallery of the best player at each uniform number for the Dolphins. Unfortunately, they couldn’t even find a picture of #2 wearing a #2 jersey.

    http://www.sun-senti...

    Took a little searching and filtering…

    Brandon Fields
    http://images.starpu...

  • sprincer | May 3, 2009 at 3:40 pm |

    I wore my “I’m calling it shea” shirt to a party last night, and everyone that had an interest in baseball loved it. Including both Yankees and Braves fans.

  • =bg= | May 3, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?

  • Frankie | May 3, 2009 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”327288″]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”327288″]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?[/quote]

    I’m calling it Cadnlestick would be more appropriate.

  • Squiddie | May 3, 2009 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”327285″][quote comment=”327283″][quote comment=”327276″]Someone seems to have gone out of their way to label some of the Big Klu photos in the Life archives.

    Check out the Chicago White Sox uni he’s wearing in 1959. He’s almost turned it into a vest.[/quote]
    White stirrups. That means the photo was taken during the World Series, right?[/quote]

    Keee-reck.[/quote]

    More 1959 Series goodness

    The Earl of Snohomish on second

    Aparicio or Landis?

    And to bring this full circle, Frank and Dean take in Game 3

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 4:09 pm |

    Thanks Squiddie for the Life pictures and tips.

  • Steve | May 3, 2009 at 4:38 pm |

    Paul…or, anyone really:
    Has “Meet the Mets” changed at all yet? I live outside the NYC area now, so I don’t get to hear FAN broadcasts to hear the song at the opening of the game. Have they changed the “All out at Shea” line, retained it, or just dropped using the song?

  • Paul Lukas | May 3, 2009 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”327292″]Paul…or, anyone really:
    Has “Meet the Mets” changed at all yet? I live outside the NYC area now, so I don’t get to hear FAN broadcasts to hear the song at the opening of the game. Have they changed the “All out at Shea” line, retained it, or just dropped using the song?[/quote]

    First, remember that the WFAN version of “Meet the Mets” has different lyrics than the original version. Lyrics for both versions are shown here:
    http://en.wikipedia....

    The pre- and postgame shows now begin with a truncated version of the ’FAN edition of the song. When they get to the line that would normally go, “Hot dogs, green grass, all out at Shea,” the vocals cut out and they just go all-instrumental. That’s the point at which the host says, “Welcome to [douchebag-sponsored] Mets Extra…”

  • Flip | May 3, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”327274″][quote comment=”327272″]There’s Ted Kluszewski, but he’s a special case[/quote]

    nice finds, lance

    wasn’t big klu almost responsible for the introduction of the reds vest? i thought i heard/read somewhere the reds were sick of him cutting off his sleeves to show off the guns they basically said, “fuck it…we’re gonna wear vests now” … or is that just some kind of urban legend?

    never was a fan of the vest look…but i gotta say…this was one i could live with[/quote]

    Those were the best vests, hands down. Still, I could live with these http://tinyurl.com/d... or these http://tinyurl.com/d...

  • Flip | May 3, 2009 at 5:03 pm |

    Re: the picture of Reggie, http://thatsmyboy03.... , I love the green laces. This one’s for Ricko: What’s the green leather that goes around the ankle collar? What was its purpose? Did it work? Seems like Riddell use it. Cool look.

  • Tony Miller | May 3, 2009 at 5:06 pm |

    “Sam Jehroe had been a star in the Negro Leagues.”
    Phil, I believe it’s Sam Jethroe, not Jehroe.

  • Prexy Hater | May 3, 2009 at 5:10 pm |

    Let’s see some Photoshoping to the Yankees road unis, without the white outline and 70s piping. Its time for them to go!

  • Prexy Hater | May 3, 2009 at 5:13 pm |

    How about “I’m not calling it Yankee Stadium” shirts?

  • =bg= | May 3, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”327289″][quote comment=”327288″]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”327288″]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?[/quote]

    I’m calling it Cadnlestick would be more appropriate.[/quote]

    Well, if they still played there, I suppose.

  • Frankie | May 3, 2009 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment=\”327299\”][quote comment=\”327289\”][quote comment=\”327288\”]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a \”I\’m calling it PacBell\” in black with orange?[/quote]
    [quote comment=\”327288\”]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a \”I\’m calling it PacBell\” in black with orange?[/quote]

    I\’m calling it Cadnlestick would be more appropriate.[/quote]

    Well, if they still played there, I suppose.[/quote]

    That’s the point though, isn’t it? The Mets no longer play at Shea, they play at Citi Field. The “I’m calling it Shea” shirts are a boycott of using the new, corporately-sponsored name of the new stadium. Making an “I’m calling it Candlestick” shirt would be the same; calling the new stadium by the old stadium’s name, instead of using the new, corporately-sponsored name. It would be waaaay too late to make an “I’m calling it Candlestick” shirt, but the ideas are the same.

  • Stuby | May 3, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”327299″][quote comment=”327289″][quote comment=”327288″]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”327288″]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?[/quote]

    I’m calling it Cadnlestick would be more appropriate.[/quote]

    Well, if they still played there, I suppose.[/quote]
    Hey Brinke, I’ve been away from the Bay Area since ’03. What are the locals calling PacBell/SBC/At&T Park these days? I remember some people tried to start calling it “The Phone” but that never really took off. Do you just say “I’m going to the Giants game” and ignore all that corporate foolishness?

  • Stuby | May 3, 2009 at 5:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”327300″][quote comment=\”327299\”][quote comment=\”327289\”][quote comment=\”327288\”]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a \”I\’m calling it PacBell\” in black with orange?[/quote]
    [quote comment=\”327288\”]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a \”I\’m calling it PacBell\” in black with orange?[/quote]

    I\’m calling it Cadnlestick would be more appropriate.[/quote]

    Well, if they still played there, I suppose.[/quote]

    That’s the point though, isn’t it? The Mets no longer play at Shea, they play at Citi Field. The “I’m calling it Shea” shirts are a boycott of using the new, corporately-sponsored name of the new stadium. Making an “I’m calling it Candlestick” shirt would be the same; calling the new stadium by the old stadium’s name, instead of using the new, corporately-sponsored name. It would be waaaay too late to make an “I’m calling it Candlestick” shirt, but the ideas are the same.[/quote]
    No, because the ‘Stick is still in use by the Niners about 5 miles down the road.

  • Frankie | May 3, 2009 at 6:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”327302″][quote comment=”327300″][quote comment=\”327299\”][quote comment=\”327289\”][quote comment=\”327288\”]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a \”I\’m calling it PacBell\” in black with orange?[/quote]
    [quote comment=\”327288\”]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a \”I\’m calling it PacBell\” in black with orange?[/quote]

    I\’m calling it Cadnlestick would be more appropriate.[/quote]

    Well, if they still played there, I suppose.[/quote]

    That’s the point though, isn’t it? The Mets no longer play at Shea, they play at Citi Field. The “I’m calling it Shea” shirts are a boycott of using the new, corporately-sponsored name of the new stadium. Making an “I’m calling it Candlestick” shirt would be the same; calling the new stadium by the old stadium’s name, instead of using the new, corporately-sponsored name. It would be waaaay too late to make an “I’m calling it Candlestick” shirt, but the ideas are the same.[/quote]
    No, because the ‘Stick is still in use by the Niners about 5 miles down the road.[/quote]

    I personally don’t see this as an issue, though I can somewhat see your point. To Giants fans though, the ‘Stick was, and always will be ours, not the 49ers’.

  • Frankie | May 3, 2009 at 6:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”327301″][quote comment=”327299″][quote comment=”327289″][quote comment=”327288″]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”327288″]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a “I’m calling it PacBell” in black with orange?[/quote]

    I’m calling it Cadnlestick would be more appropriate.[/quote]

    Well, if they still played there, I suppose.[/quote]
    Hey Brinke, I’ve been away from the Bay Area since ’03. What are the locals calling PacBell/SBC/At&T Park these days? I remember some people tried to start calling it “The Phone” but that never really took off. Do you just say “I’m going to the Giants game” and ignore all that corporate foolishness?[/quote]

    AT&T Park has caught on, though I do occasionally hear someone say PacBell. SBC Park never really caught on, though I do believe it was the name that was in use for the shortest amount of time.

  • =bg= | May 3, 2009 at 6:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”327303″][quote comment=”327302″][quote comment=”327300″][quote comment=\”327299\”][quote comment=\”327289\”][quote comment=\”327288\”]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a \”I\’m calling it PacBell\” in black with orange?[/quote]
    [quote comment=\”327288\”]Paul, maybe you can branch out. In SF, can we have a \”I\’m calling it PacBell\” in black with orange?[/quote]

    I\’m calling it Cadnlestick would be more appropriate.[/quote]

    Well, if they still played there, I suppose.[/quote]

    That’s the point though, isn’t it? The Mets no longer play at Shea, they play at Citi Field. The “I’m calling it Shea” shirts are a boycott of using the new, corporately-sponsored name of the new stadium. Making an “I’m calling it Candlestick” shirt would be the same; calling the new stadium by the old stadium’s name, instead of using the new, corporately-sponsored name. It would be waaaay too late to make an “I’m calling it Candlestick” shirt, but the ideas are the same.[/quote]
    No, because the ‘Stick is still in use by the Niners about 5 miles down the road.[/quote]

    I personally don’t see this as an issue, though I can somewhat see your point. To Giants fans though, the ‘Stick was, and always will be ours, not the 49ers’.[/quote]

    You couldn’t use a “I’m calling it Candlestick” for the Giants. Candlestick, which people outside the Bay Area may not know, refers to a physical spot. Candlestick Point. It’s a physical location, nowhere near China Basin where AT&T is.

    I still refer to it as PacBell, although I guess AT&T Park is what most refer to it as.

    Willie Mays Field would be better, but there’s no money in it.

  • Mike D | May 3, 2009 at 7:08 pm |

    The vests of yesteryear were a thing of beauty. I agree today’s are just sleeveless jerseys, although I really liked the Pirates sleeveless jersey that they wore the past few years, and think they looked better then their new sleeved jerseys.

    I like the Rockies and Angels sleeveless home jerseys as well.

  • timmy b | May 3, 2009 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”327279″][quote comment=”327240″]Man… they used to let photographers everywhere during sporting events…

    What a great shot![/quote]

    Look at the photgrapher in the endzone of this old NFL game.
    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    The shots are from 1944 and it’s the Eagles against the Brooklyn Tigers. Probably from the 12/3/44 game in Shibe Park as the photog is wearing a fairly heavy trench coat.

    LarryB, termendous!!

  • Johnny O | May 3, 2009 at 7:10 pm |

    So I was at the Brewers Vs. D-Backs game today at Miller Park, and it was a nice and bright 68 degrees in Brew City today. The reason I bring this up, is I may have seen a rare occurrence today. In the 2nd inning, Prince Fielder belted a home run, and the very next pitch, Mike Cameron made his 1,500th hit a home run as well. The thing is, both players were wearing sunglasses. I have no idea how to check, but could this be the first time ever that a team went back-to-back with both players wearing shades?

    http://a.espncdn.com...

    http://a.espncdn.com...

    http://a.espncdn.com...

  • Jason Shane | May 3, 2009 at 7:26 pm |

    The MLB Network has been airing World Series highlights marathons, dating back to the 1940s. I’ve mentioned this before, but watching those shows is a really cool way to check out older unis. If you haven’t had the chance, I suggest checking it out (although, they’re up to 1998 already).

    I’ve DVRed most of them and am diligently trying to get through them all. One of my favorites, I just watched last night – 1982. With all of the powder blue talk going on around here lately, it was great to see 2 such unis in action in this Series. Here are some of the highlights from that Series’ show.

    First, the home unis for the Cards, as seen on Bruce Sutter & Keith Hernandez:
    http://www.flickr.co...

    And the Brewers homes (This uni is too classic. The Brew Crew should never have changed from this.):
    http://www.flickr.co...

    St. Louis road (I actually like this powder blue quite a bit. That’s Joaquin Andujar.):
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Milwaukee road (Manager Harvey Kuenn w/ St. Louis’ Whitey Herzog. This is my favorite powder blue uni – love the road cap, too.):
    http://www.flickr.co...

    Also, the show was stock full of some fantastic circa-1982 facial hair:
    -Rollie Fingers: http://www.flickr.co...
    -Lonnie Smith: http://www.flickr.co...
    -Pete Vuckovich: http://www.flickr.co...
    -Unknown Brewer: http://www.flickr.co...

    Not to mention, tons of great stirrups shots, in an array of styles:
    -I think these are Keith Hernandez’s Cardinals stirrups, with Andujar down after getting hit on the knee with a line drive: http://www.flickr.co...
    -Andujar getting carried off the field (Although this is the look I rocked in 80s Little League games, I now can’t stand it.): http://www.flickr.co...
    -Unknown Brewer: http://www.flickr.co...
    -Andujar: http://www.flickr.co...
    -Whole bunch of Cardinals: http://www.flickr.co...
    -In the previous picture, you can see a Cardinals bat boy wearing his stirrups perfectly (that’s him on the left with the BB on his back). His perfect stirrups can be seen in juxtaposition to, in my opinion, one of the worst stirrup styles: http://www.flickr.co...

    Finally, there is this great Brewers patch on their Starter (I assume) warm-up jackets: http://www.flickr.co.... There’s a close-up here: http://www.flickr.co.... That thing is beautiful.

    So, as I was saying, there’s a ton of these World Series shows on the MLB Network. Check ‘em out if you get a chance. I need to watch the ’67 Series next. The video quality is better than ’82, and the Sox’ stirrups are on full display.

  • Traxel | May 3, 2009 at 7:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”327306″]The vests of yesteryear were a thing of beauty. I agree today’s are just sleeveless jerseys, although I really liked the Pirates sleeveless jersey that they wore the past few years, and think they looked better then their new sleeved jerseys.

    I like the Rockies and Angels sleeveless home jerseys as well.[/quote]
    Today’s vests just look like a regular jersey with colored sleeves, a lot of the time you can’t even tell it is a vest, the sleeves look sewn on the shirt.

  • LI Phil | May 3, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    thanks jason, for sharing the WS screen grabs from MLB…i’ve been watching all of them, off an on…never thought to dvr them (them seem to run every so often), but i just love that old stuff…

    it’s funny, for 99% of things, my memory is like a sieve, but when it comes to world series participants and winners, tis a steel trap…you could name basically any year since the mid-40’s and i’ll tell you the participants and winners — i guess it’s kind of a rainman thing

    used to be able to do it with super bowls too (could probably still do it from I-XXX, but then i run into a ‘block’ here and there…but if ya give me a slight hint, i’ll still get it…

    but ask me what i had for lunch any day last week and it’s like asking me to tabluate pi to the 10,000 decimal

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    Thanks TimmyB I figured it was the Eagles in that picture but not sure who they were playing. That was a screen grab. It was funy to watch the play go on with the photograher trying to follow the play.

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 8:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”327310″][quote comment=”327306″]The vests of yesteryear were a thing of beauty. I agree today’s are just sleeveless jerseys, although I really liked the Pirates sleeveless jersey that they wore the past few years, and think they looked better then their new sleeved jerseys.

    I like the Rockies and Angels sleeveless home jerseys as well.[/quote]
    Today’s vests just look like a regular jersey with colored sleeves, a lot of the time you can’t even tell it is a vest, the sleeves look sewn on the shirt.[/quote]

    When I was a kid I never thought of the Pirates or Reds uniforms as being vests. I probably thought they were just sleeves.

    I know Phil is not crazy about the look. But I grew up thinking they were neat and still do. And still not happy the Pirates did away with that look.

    The Life picture of that Reds uniform is wonderful.

  • Ricko | May 3, 2009 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”327295″]Re: the picture of Reggie, http://thatsmyboy03.... , I love the green laces. This one’s for Ricko: What’s the green leather that goes around the ankle collar? What was its purpose? Did it work? Seems like Riddell use it. Cool look.[/quote]

    Riddell introdued htem first for football around ’57 or so. They’re called Snug-Ties and, yeah, they worked. A lot of cleats back then would breakdown around the ankles or hte the heel the way a pair of well-worn loafers do.

    By the ’70s (after white shoes became available to, and popular with, amateur athletes, Riddell sold them as accessory kits with matching laces. I still have sets in kelly, light gold, red, maroon, royal, orange, purple and, of course, black and white in a box somewhere. Most of which I’ve never worn.

    —Ricko

  • Steve | May 3, 2009 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”327293″][quote comment=”327292″]Paul…or, anyone really:
    Has “Meet the Mets” changed at all yet? I live outside the NYC area now, so I don’t get to hear FAN broadcasts to hear the song at the opening of the game. Have they changed the “All out at Shea” line, retained it, or just dropped using the song?[/quote]

    First, remember that the WFAN version of “Meet the Mets” has different lyrics than the original version. Lyrics for both versions are shown here:
    http://en.wikipedia....

    The pre- and postgame shows now begin with a truncated version of the ’FAN edition of the song. When they get to the line that would normally go, “Hot dogs, green grass, all out at Shea,” the vocals cut out and they just go all-instrumental. That’s the point at which the host says, “Welcome to [douchebag-sponsored] Mets Extra…”[/quote]

    Thanks. I recall them using it at Shea in recent years, though. During one of the between-inning breaks they would have a sing-along with Mr. Met that used the ’84 version.

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 8:50 pm |

    I don’t usually watch the show but King of the Hill has baseball uniforms and little league.

    And did anybody see the Simpsons last week? Talked about 50 year old items and had Milwaukee Braves pennants

  • LI Phil | May 3, 2009 at 9:29 pm |

    [quote]When I was a kid I never thought of the Pirates or Reds uniforms as being vests. I probably thought they were just sleeves.

    I know Phil is not crazy about the look. But I grew up thinking they were neat and still do.[/quote]

    i should probably qualify my statements about vests…i LOATHE the vests teams sport today…im not especially crazy about some of the older vests, either, but at least they are actually vests, not technically jerseys without sleeves like today’s ‘vests’ attempt to pass themselves as

    …some of the vests of yesteryear, including and especially the oakland vests of 1968 (and even up through ’71, but especially ’68) and even the ’62 (when they were still red, white and blue) and ’63-’67 kc a’s (kelly & gold), were pretty sharp…still, i’d prefer a full jersey, but the original A’s vest, in kelly & gold, was so unique and original (and now iconic) that i could live with it even today (remember last year’s throwback?)

    here’s the ’68 alt and home (check out joe d!) and the roadie

    now THAT was a ting of beauty

  • scott | May 3, 2009 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”327316″]I don’t usually watch the show but King of the Hill has baseball uniforms and little league.
    [/quote]

    The show had Texas Rangers-looking uniforms with white jerseys and blue pants. Gee, don’t give the Rangers any ideas. :)

    The World Series highlights are all filmed until about 1981 (and look great, as a result). But then MLB went the cheap videotape route, only restoring some filmed clips starting in the mid 1990s.

  • jon | May 3, 2009 at 10:00 pm |

    hey does anyone know if there is a way to get nfl equipment practice jerseys (that isnt ebay)? i want to get a gold steelers practice jersey if i can find one. if not, i want to try to make one myself, but id like a rbk nfl equipment jersey to start with and then find a screenprint store to do the numbers. thanks in advance for any help.

  • dkb | May 3, 2009 at 10:35 pm |

    Phil, I really appreciated the simple but gracious way you acknowledged Jack Kemp. Thank you.

  • Aaron Scholder | May 3, 2009 at 10:41 pm |

    Media Guide, pin, and pennant goldmine from this eBay seller:
    http://shop.ebay.com...

  • Aaron Scholder | May 3, 2009 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”327321″]Media Guide, pin, and pennant goldmine from this eBay seller:
    http://shop.ebay.com...
    Also a nice source for hard-to-find patches like:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

  • LI Phil | May 3, 2009 at 10:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”327320″]Phil, I really appreciated the simple but gracious way you acknowledged Jack Kemp. Thank you.[/quote]

    well, i can be a sarcastic SOB and sometimes my attempts at humor fail miserably…

    but i’ll always respect those who’ve passed on, particularly those who wore the uniform AND served the nation as did mr. kemp

  • Johnny O | May 3, 2009 at 11:29 pm |

    OK, so I know it’s late, but at the Brewers game today they game out Ryan Braun Bobble Heads, and the bobbles were struck in the image of Braun hitting a go ahead home run on the last day of the season last year against the Cubs which ended up winning the game, which then propelled them into the Wild Card spot with the Mets losing (sorry Phil). Anyways, the normal bobble looks like this:

    http://milwaukee.bre...

    Evidently there were 1,000 bobble heads given away at the game which featured a button to press where then with built in speakers you can hear Bob Uecker’s home run call coming from the bobble head! Is that not the coolest thing ever? There is one up on eBay right now, and it is already over $100:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    My bobble head of course did not have that feature. I would give almost anything for one of those, but $100 already? That this is gonna be expensive.

  • Flip | May 3, 2009 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”327314″][quote comment=”327295″]Re: the picture of Reggie, http://thatsmyboy03.... , I love the green laces. This one’s for Ricko: What’s the green leather that goes around the ankle collar? What was its purpose? Did it work? Seems like Riddell use it. Cool look.[/quote]

    Riddell introdued htem first for football around ’57 or so. They’re called Snug-Ties and, yeah, they worked. A lot of cleats back then would breakdown around the ankles or hte the heel the way a pair of well-worn loafers do.

    By the ’70s (after white shoes became available to, and popular with, amateur athletes, Riddell sold them as accessory kits with matching laces. I still have sets in kelly, light gold, red, maroon, royal, orange, purple and, of course, black and white in a box somewhere. Most of which I’ve never worn.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Thanks

  • u2-horn | May 3, 2009 at 11:52 pm |

    Ian Kinsler really needs to stop tucking his pants into his hose.

  • Jason Shane | May 3, 2009 at 11:56 pm |

    [quote comment=\”327311\”]thanks jason, for sharing the WS screen grabs from MLB…i\’ve been watching all of them, off an on…never thought to dvr them (them seem to run every so often), but i just love that old stuff…

    it\’s funny, for 99% of things, my memory is like a sieve, but when it comes to world series participants and winners, tis a steel trap…you could name basically any year since the mid-40\’s and i\’ll tell you the participants and winners — i guess it\’s kind of a rainman thing

    used to be able to do it with super bowls too (could probably still do it from I-XXX, but then i run into a \’block\’ here and there…but if ya give me a slight hint, i\’ll still get it…

    but ask me what i had for lunch any day last week and it\’s like asking me to tabluate pi to the 10,000 decimal[/quote]

    No problem, Phil. I really enjoyed your entries last weekend on the powder blues. Really interesting uni era back then. Too bad the stadiums were so f\’ing ugly. It makes some of those shows difficult to watch.

    And I feel your pain on what I like to call \”selective memory.\” I could rattle off old school BoSox players, WS participants/champs, etc., for days, but if my wife asks me to do one little thing, like buy milk, I forget in 5 minutes.

    If anybody has a particular World Series that they would like screenshots from, let me know. I think some of the other years will be better quality. Seemed like that 82 series show had poor camera quality. Even the 67 show was better.