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All Good Things In All Good Time

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By Phil Hecken

So, the Derby’s today. The Kentucky Derby. You know, the “Most Exciting 2 Minutes in Sports.” The kick-off to the triple crown. The Sport of Kings (or is that boxing?). No matter. It’s Derby Day and that means eight hours of buildup on ESPN and then well, two minutes of racing on whatever network owns the rights to the actual race. Probably the Peacock. I’ll have to check. Wanna know how to pick a winner?

In past years, Mr. Lukas has already covered your Kentucky Derby party, your Preakness Silkiness and your Belmont Shooin, so right there you have all you really need to know about the sport, the hoofwear and the spread to break out. It’s all pretty good stuff, actually (the horse racing part, not necessarily the columns — those are spot on). In fact, for years, I used to hit the Belmont (since I live, literally, about 15 minutes away) a lot. Think the last time I went was when Smarty Jones failed to become a triple crown winner. Lots of those these days (remember “Big disappointment Brown”?). But that’s neither here nor there, as today is Derby Day, so let’s crank up the old ‘way back’ machine and take a look at some of the finer (and not so fine) moments from the past.

I wanted to begin this with a set of photos from Lance Smith, whom you are all going to “meet” in great detail tomorrow. Lance has sent me a few beauties from the Life archives. So, real quick, here’s some Derby bits from Mr. Smith:

There’s a big set of photos from the 1955 Kentucky Derby. Swaps won that year ridden by Willie Shoemaker. It’s mainly fans and colorful characters photos and less actual Derby photos — like these two gentlemen

I like this color photo. That’s the start of the 1959 Derby. The winner was Tommy Lee. (Man, there’s some obvious jokes there and none of them repeatable in polite society.) Again the winner was ridden by Willie Shoemaker. His number was 8 so I think he’s the yellow livery five from the right.

And I like this photo of mint juleps in 1937. They didn’t hold back on the mint back then. By 1955 they had switched to commemorative glasses.

Man, they used to be really blatant about doping in the 1950s — (in fact, Needles won the 1956 Derby). BTW, here’s Swaps in 1955 with Willie Shoemaker in the Winner’s Circle. Finally, here’s a set of photos of 1964 when Northern Dancer won it. Wasn’t as easy to get a good photo back then.

Thanks Lance. We’ll have more from you tomorrow!

Lets break the Derby down into its few basis elements.

The Mint Juleps: The first (and in many eyes, most important) is the Mint Julep. I mean, c’mon — is there a single drink that is more synonymous with a sporting event than this one? I think not.

The Hats: For many, it’s all about see and being seen. And that means sporting the classiest chapeau, the hottest hats, the largest lid or the tastiest topper you can find. Some are simply stunning. But usually, especially since the aforementioned mint julep is a part of the day’s activities, the choice of headwear is never boring, although frequently what is lacking in taste is more than made up for in original design. Of course, some might say this is the height of douchebaggery. But where else can you wear a funny hat, get liquored to the gills, AND walk away with more bank than you came? Not too many places.

The Silks: Those colorful outfits the jockeys wear? Yup, silks. And there’s nothing purdier than seeing them on top of the ponies on race day. Whether they’re heading for the gate before the race or just breaking on their run, there’s something incredibly beautiful about what can only be described as poetry in motion. When you get a muddy track or an overcast day, the men in silks just seem to burst into magnificent color throughout the race.

The Roses: They call the Kentucky Derby the “Run for the Roses.” Why? Well, because the winning horse gets a shitload of the pungent red flowers. Sometimes they even put ’em on the jockey. They’ve been doing it forever. It’s a nice tradition. Seems like every year the bouquets and blankets get bigger and bigger.

The Steeples: No matter when the race, no matter what the year, there are few landmarks so associated with a single event than the famous steeples at Churchill Downs. And why not? They make a fantastic frame for a shot. They are as much a part of the race as the race itself. Anytime you see a picture that includes this architectural icon, you know it’s Churchill Downs, and you can be pretty certain it’s from The Kentucky Derby.

The Starting Gate: Not nearly as iconic as the steeples, but still an integral part of the race. There is usually a pretty large field in the Derby, and the gate used to be both beautiful and classic. As time progressed, however, it sadly became less classic and more of a corporate billboard. Here’s what it looked like last year. Can they put any more shit on there?

The Bugler: Some call him the trumpeter, others call him the bugler. But no matter what you call him, there is no more anticipated music maker on race day at Churchill Downs than the man in the funny red jacket. Well … maybe the people enjoy a rousing chorus of My Old Kentucky Home more than they do the call to post, but the bugler is the most anticipated fat man in a red jacket fat man in a red suit in Kentucky on the first Saturday in May.

The Pose: Ah yes. The win. And with the win comes the pose. It’s not unique to the Kentucky Derby by any means, but there’s something about winning the Run for the Roses that makes the win all that sweeter. It’s like the ultimate aphrodesiac right there.

The Red Carpet: Wait…what? This aint the Oscars. No, but that doesn’t mean the really special people don’t get the Hollywood treatment. After all, what would the Derby be without Visa and some Grade B talent to share in the fun? OK — VY looks great in that suit, but really, you have to wonderlic if he really likes the ponies or the attention. Seriously, are they there to hit the Exacta or just to show off a really nice hat?

The Jockey Room: I’m not sure what exactly they call the place where the jockeys hang out before and after they race. But it is a really cool place where they keep all the silks. So many to chose from. I wonder, do they just randomly pick one or what? “I like this purple one, I think I’ll wear this one today.” No?

The Rail: No photographer worth his salt would take a shot at the Derby without taking one from beneath the rail. It is the classic shot of the race. No matter what the year, no matter what the horse, you can always count on the classic shot perfectly framed by the rail.

The Finish Pole: That almost sounds like an oxymoron or a really messed up European. But in reality, while the horses cross an invisible “line,” they are actually passing the finish pole. Now, the lettering on the obelisk has changed slightly over the years, the grand finale of the race has always been accomplished by crossing the finish line and passing the finish pole. Yep. That’s one sweet sight for a weary rider after the most exciting two minutes in sports.

Enjoy the race today. Throw a party. Make some mint juleps. Wear a silly hat. Go on — you know you want to. It’s Kentucky Derby Day. Take me down, little Susie, take me down.

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O NO: OK. The poor Natinals have taken their fair share of grief the past few weeks for uni screwups and general uni shenanigans. Well…we think we fixed that second problem by having them wear blue lids and sleeves. Looks much better, right?

Well…we can’t really fix the home (except for making sure they have all their “O”s), or their “military tribute” unis, but we can work on their roadie. Couple things to fix here. First thing is to get rid of the stupid beveling on the “DC” patch. Then, lets make the outlining on the patch match the white outline on the wordmark. Better. But ya know what? They don’t really even need that white outline at all. Much better. In fact, lets remove the logo creep. Lookin’ better still. OK…it’s much better now, but it’s not quite there. They wear blue caps with that away uni, right? So, let’s make that wordmark blue. What’s that? The “DC” is out of place now? No worries. Let’s get rid of it. MUCH better. Damn close to perfect. OK so, how would that look on the field? This is what they currently wear — so here we go. How bout that? Looks better, no?

Well…maybe not…but it’s a start, right? If anyone wants to come up with a new home uni…let’s see it.

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This and That: So you really wanna see Pat Patriot a lot this year, eh? Well, maybe up to FIVE times this year … In case you missed it, we lost a talented artist and sportsman the other day … The Los Angeles Angels were sure impressed with the House that Ruth $1.5 billion built … Meanwhile, Philly phans are already concerned with the team on the other side of the River becoming overstressed at this early stage of the season … Sweet throwback news — Mariners to pay tribute to ’39 Rainiers: Club will turn back the clock to honor PCL champions — man — dig those unis! … Good news for Comrade Lukas: A plan to replace Soviet-era Russian military uniforms with ones by a leading fashion designer has been abandoned because of a lack of money … Lebanese alpine skier Georges Salameh has been banned for two years after testing positive for cocaine, tarnishing the reputations of the hundreds of thousands of Lebanese skiers … Apparently there’s still hockey going on and the Ducks and Wings are playing each other — some kind of quiz involved there … Because they have nothing better to do at the moment, Congress will introduce legislation to outlaw the BCS — I shit you not … and in more unbelievable news — Usain Bolt totals his car, flips it into a ditch, but is unhurt — until HE STEPS ON A THORN exiting the vehicle.

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Caption time: Whatever you do — make sure the swoosh faces the camera! … All current swimming records appear safe now that they’ve outlawed the LZR suit … Rafa appears both confused and perplexed at the ATP’s new floating balls … This is how I frequently have to tab my score for a hole … Hey lady, aren’t you a day early with that chapeau? … Apparently the “Courtesy is Contagious” rules of Moto GP are working … What do you do for recreation? I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashbackNOH? … simply shocking that these cheerleaders would be drinking … There’s just something not quite right about this pic … maybe it’s pajamas, softball tops and two away unis? … And not to be left out of the softball club, the Raays busted out the slow pitch duds against the Sawks who were forced by all standards of good taste by rule to wear gray … Adam Jones has fans? … If Paul Lukas has nightmares — is this how they appear? … Nice pants … Where exactly would you screw in a Coors Light? Why, on top of here, of course … Why hockey is still great — Canes versus BroonsOld Time Hockey

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That’s all for today folks. Enjoy the Derby … Watch the playoffs … Dream of purple octopi … Cheers!

 

96 comments to All Good Things In All Good Time

  • josh's twin | May 2, 2009 at 8:23 am |

    Love the Jerry Garcia Band reference in today’s title.

  • Scott | May 2, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    Ladies and Gentlemen, you’re in Kentucky.

    You can dress ’em up in fancy duds. You can drink silly, fancy drinks. You can even pretend to throw money around.

    But you’re still in Kentucky.

  • Scott Little | May 2, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    Those derby glasses have a pretty dedicated following. They made the first one in ’38 and were made every year since except 1946 and 1947. Aluminum and bakelite ones were made in the WWII era.

    I’ve seen collections of them valued in to the thousands…

  • Hibbs | May 2, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    I’m not so sure that sports should include animals. I hope no legs get broken.

  • Rick | May 2, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    Whose calling Joe Theisman an animal? I think I Want Revenge will win. What? Scratched?

  • Jake Kubuske | May 2, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    This was just too good not to post, but there is a store on eBay selling a vast array of ring worn “Macho Man” Randy Savage gear including colorful cowboy hats, neon wrestling outfits, vintage trunks from the 1980s, and even jackets & robes.
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  • Steve | May 2, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    Those MS Paint Nationals pictures look really bush league. In fact, all of the MS Paint art you’ve done over the last few weekends has looked equally horrendous. Please don’t do that any more, you’re just embarrassing yourself. And really, was that whole Nats section even needed…or were you just bored and looking for more material to make an already long post longer?

  • WarDameEagle | May 2, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    Photo gallery of the Jags’ first day of minicamp. It’s the first chance to see the new helmet paint scheme in action (i.e., sunlight):

    http://forum.jaguars...

    I’d say the teal-colored flecks show fairly well. And they’re definitely noticeable from a distance.

  • JTH | May 2, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”327138″]Those MS Paint Nationals pictures look really bush league. In fact, all of the MS Paint art you’ve done over the last few weekends has looked equally horrendous. Please don’t do that any more, you’re just embarrassing yourself. And really, was that whole Nats section even needed…or were you just bored and looking for more material to make an already long post longer?[/quote]
    Demand a refund.

  • JTH | May 2, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”327139″]Photo gallery of the Jags’ first day of minicamp. It’s the first chance to see the new helmet paint scheme in action (i.e., sunlight):

    http://forum.jaguars...

    I’d say the teal-colored flecks show fairly well. And they’re definitely noticeable from a distance.[/quote]
    Hmmmm… in sunlight, they almost don’t look black at all. I wonder how they’ll look on an overcast day and/or under the lights during a night game.

    Also, it was just a matter of time until the jammy-pants look crossed over into football.

    Actually, those Jags practice unis might look better than their new gameday ones.

  • WarDameEagle | May 2, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”327141″][quote comment=”327139″]Photo gallery of the Jags’ first day of minicamp. It’s the first chance to see the new helmet paint scheme in action (i.e., sunlight):

    http://forum.jaguars...

    I’d say the teal-colored flecks show fairly well. And they’re definitely noticeable from a distance.[/quote]
    Hmmmm… in sunlight, they almost don’t look black at all. I wonder how they’ll look on an overcast day and/or under the lights during a night game.

    Also, it was just a matter of time until the jammy-pants look crossed over into football.

    Actually, those Jags practice unis might look better than their new gameday ones.[/quote]

    I think the “sparkle” factor will be much more pronounced during night games. I think the only chance to see that will be during the preseason, however. The Jags will play 14 regular season games at 1:00 pm. They will play 2 games at 4:00 pm, but one of those is a west coast game (the other is in Nashville). In the sunglight, the helmet looks black, but with what appears to be a teal-colored sun beaming upon it.

    http://forum.jaguars...

  • Hibbs | May 2, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    That bowling ball of a helmet is a disgrace no matter what light hits it.

  • WarDameEagle | May 2, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    Braves’ catcher Brian McCann has struggled with eye problems all season. They’ve tried drops, ointments, and several pairs of contact lenses. the latest plan – eyeglasses.

    http://atlanta.brave...

    He hasn’t worn them in a game, yet, but we might have to add him to such spectacled-legends as Stan Lopata

    http://www.baseballt...

    Dave Collins

    http://www.nerdbaseb...

    Pat Sheridan

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    Chris Sabo

    http://www.nerdbaseb...

    and Ron Kittle

    http://www.gsdgsd.co...

  • WarDamnEagle | May 2, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”327143″]That bowling ball of a helmet is a disgrace no matter what light hits it.[/quote]

    “Disgrace” is a strong word choice for a football helmet, don’t you think?

  • JTH | May 2, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”327144″]Braves’ catcher Brian McCann has struggled with eye problems all season. They’ve tried drops, ointments, and several pairs of contact lenses. the latest plan – eyeglasses.

    http://atlanta.brave...

    He hasn’t worn them in a game, yet, but we might have to add him to such spectacled-legends as Stan Lopata

    http://www.baseballt...

    Dave Collins

    http://www.nerdbaseb...

    Pat Sheridan

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    Chris Sabo

    http://www.nerdbaseb...

    and Ron Kittle

    http://www.gsdgsd.co...
    Greg Luzinski
    Leon Durham
    Vance Law
    Kent Tekulve
    Chuck McElroy
    Dennis Lamp
    Eric Soderholm

    OK, I’ll stop now.

  • Stuby | May 2, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”327144″]Braves’ catcher Brian McCann has struggled with eye problems all season. They’ve tried drops, ointments, and several pairs of contact lenses. the latest plan – eyeglasses.

    http://atlanta.brave...

    He hasn’t worn them in a game, yet, but we might have to add him to such spectacled-legends as Stan Lopata

    http://www.baseballt...

    Dave Collins

    http://www.nerdbaseb...

    Pat Sheridan

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

    Chris Sabo

    http://www.nerdbaseb...

    and Ron Kittle

    http://www.gsdgsd.co...
    Maybe he can get himself a really bitchin’ pair like fellow catcher Jason Phillips…

    http://www.cbc.ca/gf...

  • JTH | May 2, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”327145″]”Disgrace” is a strong word choice for a football helmet, don’t you think?[/quote]
    Oh, I see you’re new here. Welcome.

    Interesting… there’s another regular here who happens to be a Jags fan that calls himself WarDamnEagle.

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    seeing is the most important thing

  • WarDamnEagle | May 2, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”327148″][quote comment=”327145″]”Disgrace” is a strong word choice for a football helmet, don’t you think?[/quote]
    Oh, I see you’re new here. Welcome.

    Interesting… there’s another regular here who happens to be a Jags fan that calls himself WarDamnEagle.[/quote]

    Not new. Same guy. Typo on the name. And disgrace is still too strong of a word for a footbal helmet.

  • random reader | May 2, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    Those “pacman” signs are most likely for boxer Manny Pacquiao.

  • duker | May 2, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    Anyone else catch the one out that Jamie Walker was in the Orioles/Blues Jays game last night? He was wearing stirrups but in mid-90s style. Kinda like this but with the pants lower, only showing a couple inches of stirrup.

  • J.D. | May 2, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    Congratulations, Phil, you’ve created the Washington Dodgers.

  • Marty | May 2, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    “Disgrace” is completely appropriate. I have no regret in stating it.
    Thanks for your support, JTH. This isn’t the first time. Does Funkdoobiest ring a bell?

  • jbona | May 2, 2009 at 12:06 pm |

    there is nothing old time hockey about the carolina hurricanes. unless they took the ice in whalers throwbacks, that is.

  • mmwatkin | May 2, 2009 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”327138″]Those MS Paint Nationals pictures look really bush league. In fact, all of the MS Paint art you’ve done over the last few weekends has looked equally horrendous. Please don’t do that any more, you’re just embarrassing yourself. And really, was that whole Nats section even needed…or were you just bored and looking for more material to make an already long post longer?[/quote]

    I know what is even more embarrassing?

    Getting riled up over something that does not affect you in any way, and then taking time to post about it. And just to put asshole frosting on the douchebag cake, you complain about a free blog being “too long”.

  • Dan King | May 2, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    looking at those bruins v canes pics has given me some flashbacks to playing goalie in floor hockey. even just running around it seems people just can’t stop until they hit something

  • u2-horn | May 2, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote]The Mint Juleps: The first (and in many eyes, most important) is the Mint Julep. I mean, c’mon — is there a single drink that is more synonymous with a sporting event than this one? I think not.[/quote]

    beer and softball?

  • Mike Engle | May 2, 2009 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”327153″]Congratulations, Phil, you’ve created the Washington Dodgers.[/quote]
    All Majestic jokes aside, the Nationals look like a mid-life crisis right now.
    They had a really good look going before this year. (Yes, I liked the gold trimmings, their number font, their old circular patch with the stars, and the bevels. I thought it all worked.)
    But the Senators cap…nice cap out of context, but it didn’t look like the Nationals’ cap. I wouldn’t be surprised if Todd Radom had a different cap in mind (which might have looked awesome with the rest of the set), only to be told, “The Senators cap stays. Work with it or around it.”
    So this year, they’ve given themselves a serious downgrade in the sleeve patch department, and instead of actually making a Nationals cap to go with the Nationals uniforms, they tried adding more Senators elements while holding on to some things Nationals, and totally failed. And not to mention additional clown costumes unfit for a Wal-Mart-sponsored Little League team.
    Can somebody humor me and Photoshop last year’s white and gray uniforms, but with the DC logo on the hats instead of the Senators’ W?
    (Or better yet, just bring back the Expos. After I graduate, so I don’t skip school in favor of the ballpark, of course.)

  • Jon Horton | May 2, 2009 at 12:42 pm |

    As a Washington Senators fan as a kid, I appreciate the bow to the old team. The thing I don’t get is the inane bow to DC for every Washington team. The Wizards DC secondary mark. The Nationals DC secondary mark.
    I actually think the Nationals wordmark on the home uniform looks stunning, but the numbers just don’t cut it. It’s overkill.
    But I do have two questions about all this?
    Did Majestic get a memo from Peter Angelos that he, in fact, owns the copyright to the letter “O” and the infamous NATINALS jersey was part of the settlement?
    What in the hell are they going to call DC United when they move to Maryland next year?

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2009 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote]Can somebody humor me and Photoshop last year’s white and gray uniforms, but with the DC logo on the hats instead of the Senators’ W?[/quote]

    i’d give it a try, but i’ll only further embarass myself and make the comments section too long

  • Sam D. | May 2, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    Phil, just stop it with the photoshop. If you had it your way, all MLB teams would have really bland uniforms with only one color. I’m sick of people referring to alternates as “softball jerseys,” because some of them work quite well and look good. The Nationals’ stars-and-stripes DC looks ridiculous, but the only good thing about the uniform is that they wear red sleeves; it WORKS.

    This is the 2000s. Baseball uniforms tend to evolve every now and then. Hell, today’s uniforms are so much less outrageous than those in the 70s and 80s, so what’s to complain about? Deal with it.

  • =bg= | May 2, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    Speaking of Derby glasses, yeah, those are a big deal in Louisville. Grew up there and we had a big collection. Never was into the sport, but I cleaned up twice. Once when we had a backyard Derby party- everyone had pulled a name out of the hat for the race, and paid like 5 bucks. I was the last one to come out to the porch where our party was..and there was one name left. The name of the overwhelming favorite, who ended up winning. Ka-ching for me. Only visited Churchill Downs once, bet on one race..and won. So I retired undefeated.

    PS Steve #7; I have your solution! You don’t like the site? Don’t read it. See, how hard is that? Now relax, cupcake.

  • Hibbs | May 2, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    The Mint Juleps: The first (and in many eyes, most important) is the Mint Julep. I mean, c’mon — is there a single drink that is more synonymous with a sporting event than this one? I think not.

    beer and softball?

    Old Crow and Croquet.

  • Mike Engle | May 2, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”327164″]The Mint Juleps: The first (and in many eyes, most important) is the Mint Julep. I mean, c’mon — is there a single drink that is more synonymous with a sporting event than this one? I think not.

    beer and softball?

    Old Crow and Croquet.[/quote]
    Gin and basketball (for Keon Clark)

  • =bg= | May 2, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    Mint Juleps. Ah, yes. You are right about those.

    I was too young to ever try one of those then- but oh yes, most important.

    (Trivia: In the movie, Goldfinger offers James Bond one to sip on the porch of his Kentucky estate.)

  • mmwatkin | May 2, 2009 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”327162″]Phil, just stop it with the photoshop. If you had it your way, all MLB teams would have really bland uniforms with only one color. I’m sick of people referring to alternates as “softball jerseys,” because some of them work quite well and look good. The Nationals’ stars-and-stripes DC looks ridiculous, but the only good thing about the uniform is that they wear red sleeves; it WORKS.

    This is the 2000s. Baseball uniforms tend to evolve every now and then. Hell, today’s uniforms are so much less outrageous than those in the 70s and 80s, so what’s to complain about? Deal with it.[/quote]

    I think a lot of people who are against the alternates only hold that position because alts in MLB have gotten out of control. Teams should not have 4 or 5 different uniforms to use. It has gotten to the point where some teams (White Sox) are just wearing the same alt for weeks at a time (or seems like it). Unfortunately I don’t see this trend changing anytime soon ($$$).

    If i was the commish, I would make a rule that a team can only have one alternate uniform that could be only worn at home a maximum of 15 times a year. That would allow teams who want to wear a Sunday or Friday alt to do so, and prevent teams from going all willy-nilly with alts all the time.

  • rpm | May 2, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”327138″]Those MS Paint Nationals pictures look really bush league. In fact, all of the MS Paint art you’ve done over the last few weekends has looked equally horrendous. Please don’t do that any more, you’re just embarrassing yourself. And really, was that whole Nats section even needed…or were you just bored and looking for more material to make an already long post longer?[/quote]

    you people make me absolutely sick sometimes, i can not believe a comment like this even exists. you sir are one of the all time colassal ass-holes i have ever come across. today’s post was one of the all time greats, and i loathe the derby. the work on the derby was stupendous, and the photos chosen, were beautiful. the time it must have taken to do that alone must have been mind boggling, especially when you consider he did this, without compensation, for our enjoyment. but did he stop there? hell no. he also gave the minutea fans their content, and more. he gave a full fucking over the top post, all for us, for free, we didn’t pay a dime. but he didn’t even stop there, he also tried to give us something to debate, yet another layer to this awesome post, the washington nationals jersey. to wit he offered up some ideas. are phil’s photoshop skills top notch? no, but he still took the fucking time to do it, and on top of everything else he put into this post. we can still get the essence of what he is getting at even if his execution wasn’t perfect. if you want to complain about it, how about offering up your time to make it right, like that will happen. i am being completely sincere when i say, steve, i hope your lousy, good for nothing, useless, ass gets hit by a fucking bus today, you miserable piece of crap, you make me fucking sick. i hope my words don’t sound to soft, because i really hope a flame thrower accidentally explodes in your general direction.
    ________

    my two cents on the nats…
    i think you went too far. i loooove the red with the blue outline, it is almost a perfect jersey, and would pair nicely with blue or red chapeau.

  • rpm | May 2, 2009 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”327167″][quote comment=”327162″]Phil, just stop it with the photoshop. If you had it your way, all MLB teams would have really bland uniforms with only one color. I’m sick of people referring to alternates as “softball jerseys,” because some of them work quite well and look good. The Nationals’ stars-and-stripes DC looks ridiculous, but the only good thing about the uniform is that they wear red sleeves; it WORKS.

    This is the 2000s. Baseball uniforms tend to evolve every now and then. Hell, today’s uniforms are so much less outrageous than those in the 70s and 80s, so what’s to complain about? Deal with it.[/quote]

    I think a lot of people who are against the alternates only hold that position because alts in MLB have gotten out of control. Teams should not have 4 or 5 different uniforms to use. It has gotten to the point where some teams (White Sox) are just wearing the same alt for weeks at a time (or seems like it). Unfortunately I don’t see this trend changing anytime soon ($$$).

    If i was the commish, I would make a rule that a team can only have one alternate uniform that could be only worn at home a maximum of 15 times a year. That would allow teams who want to wear a Sunday or Friday alt to do so, and prevent teams from going all willy-nilly with alts all the time.[/quote]

    this is actually a sensible idea

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2009 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”327167″][quote comment=”327162″]Phil, just stop it with the photoshop. If you had it your way, all MLB teams would have really bland uniforms with only one color. I’m sick of people referring to alternates as “softball jerseys,” because some of them work quite well and look good. The Nationals’ stars-and-stripes DC looks ridiculous, but the only good thing about the uniform is that they wear red sleeves; it WORKS.

    This is the 2000s. Baseball uniforms tend to evolve every now and then. Hell, today’s uniforms are so much less outrageous than those in the 70s and 80s, so what’s to complain about? Deal with it.[/quote]

    I think a lot of people who are against the alternates only hold that position because alts in MLB have gotten out of control. Teams should not have 4 or 5 different uniforms to use. It has gotten to the point where some teams (White Sox) are just wearing the same alt for weeks at a time (or seems like it). Unfortunately I don’t see this trend changing anytime soon ($$$).

    If i was the commish, I would make a rule that a team can only have one alternate uniform that could be only worn at home a maximum of 15 times a year. That would allow teams who want to wear a Sunday or Friday alt to do so, and prevent teams from going all willy-nilly with alts all the time.[/quote]

    thanks, kind sir…for so eloquently stating what i obviously failed to convey…so…let me try…

    1) i’m NOT against alternates — this is a uni board — the MORE unis the more to discuss…i am however, against bad unis

    2) alternates should be somewhat special — therefore, i agree that their use should be severly curtailed

    3) im NOT against multiple alternates in a season, per se, but this random mix and match with 2 or 5 alternates has gotten OUT OF HAND…

    4) in baseball, at least, TOPS and BOTTOMS must match…period…if you want to wear a black ‘softball top’ then pair it was black pants…then it becomes a uniform…otherwise it’s a little league outfit…old school teams didn’t only wear white or gray, so i don’t have a hard and fast rule on those two choices only

    5) there were some EXCELLENT powder blues (as mike & ricko and i detailed last weekend) — there were also some AWFUL ones; while the current pods’ piss sand colored unis suck, i LOVED their brown and mustard unis (some of them — didn’t like the brown tops with mustard pants) …

    6) i even liked the phils all maroons, the injuns all reds and the pirates all-yellows — jury is still out on the orioles all-oranges…but (with the exception of the pirates) those were worn so sparingly so as to be special — not something we saw 27 times a season

    7) do i like “boring” uniforms? no…but what’s boring to YOU may be “classic” to me, and there is nothing wrong with a uni that will look great in 30 years being worn today — the yankees? check back in 2037 — i bet they’ll STILL look like that

    8) i don’t mind teams trying different things…however, that doesn’t mean what’s ‘fresh’ today will be any good tomorrow … certain things just WORK … there’s a reason they do

    9) let’s all agree to disagree on certain things…if you don’t like what i do, that’s fine and you’re wrong so deal with it and that’s what makes UW great

    10) a bad uniform is a bad uniform … we may disagree on what makes a bad uniform, but if i don’t like the looks of something, i will try to suggest something else or why i think it would work better … you may not agree with me, but rather than ripping on me how about you suggesting something else or articulating what about the current uni it is you like

    …none of these points were directed to anyone in particular…just wanted to try and state a few of my uni points of view

  • rpm | May 2, 2009 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”327170″][quote comment=”327167″][quote comment=”327162″]Phil, just stop it with the photoshop. If you had it your way, all MLB teams would have really bland uniforms with only one color. I’m sick of people referring to alternates as “softball jerseys,” because some of them work quite well and look good. The Nationals’ stars-and-stripes DC looks ridiculous, but the only good thing about the uniform is that they wear red sleeves; it WORKS.

    This is the 2000s. Baseball uniforms tend to evolve every now and then. Hell, today’s uniforms are so much less outrageous than those in the 70s and 80s, so what’s to complain about? Deal with it.[/quote]

    I think a lot of people who are against the alternates only hold that position because alts in MLB have gotten out of control. Teams should not have 4 or 5 different uniforms to use. It has gotten to the point where some teams (White Sox) are just wearing the same alt for weeks at a time (or seems like it). Unfortunately I don’t see this trend changing anytime soon ($$$).

    If i was the commish, I would make a rule that a team can only have one alternate uniform that could be only worn at home a maximum of 15 times a year. That would allow teams who want to wear a Sunday or Friday alt to do so, and prevent teams from going all willy-nilly with alts all the time.[/quote]

    thanks, kind sir…for so eloquently stating what i obviously failed to convey…so…let me try…

    1) i’m NOT against alternates — this is a uni board — the MORE unis the more to discuss…i am however, against bad unis

    2) alternates should be somewhat special — therefore, i agree that their use should be severly curtailed

    3) im NOT against multiple alternates in a season, per se, but this random mix and match with 2 or 5 alternates has gotten OUT OF HAND…

    4) in baseball, at least, TOPS and BOTTOMS must match…period…if you want to wear a black ‘softball top’ then pair it was black pants…then it becomes a uniform…otherwise it’s a little league outfit…old school teams didn’t only wear white or gray, so i don’t have a hard and fast rule on those two choices only

    5) there were some EXCELLENT powder blues (as mike & ricko and i detailed last weekend) — there were also some AWFUL ones; while the current pods’ piss sand colored unis suck, i LOVED their brown and mustard unis (some of them — didn’t like the brown tops with mustard pants) …

    6) i even liked the phils all maroons, the injuns all reds and the pirates all-yellows — jury is still out on the orioles all-oranges…but (with the exception of the pirates) those were worn so sparingly so as to be special — not something we saw 27 times a season

    7) do i like “boring” uniforms? no…but what’s boring to YOU may be “classic” to me, and there is nothing wrong with a uni that will look great in 30 years being worn today — the yankees? check back in 2037 — i bet they’ll STILL look like that

    8) i don’t mind teams trying different things…however, that doesn’t mean what’s ‘fresh’ today will be any good tomorrow … certain things just WORK … there’s a reason they do

    9) let’s all agree to disagree on certain things…if you don’t like what i do, that’s fine and you’re wrong so deal with it and that’s what makes UW great

    10) a bad uniform is a bad uniform … we may disagree on what makes a bad uniform, but if i don’t like the looks of something, i will try to suggest something else or why i think it would work better … you may not agree with me, but rather than ripping on me how about you suggesting something else or articulating what about the current uni it is you like

    …none of these points were directed to anyone in particular…just wanted to try and state a few of my uni points of view[/quote]

    you were too nice, where is that #8 halsed bus?
    __________
    dude, i totally agree, tops and bottoms must match colour as a general but not hardfast rule. teams used to wear colours all the time, the indianapolis clowns come to mind, or the world champion cubs. bring on an all navy look, love it.

  • Aaron Scholder | May 2, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    Good article about one of the Rangers equipment guys, who is retiring: http://lohud.com/art...

  • Paul Lukas | May 2, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”327162″]Phil, just stop it with the photoshop. If you had it your way, all MLB teams would have really bland uniforms with only one color. I’m sick of people referring to alternates as “softball jerseys,” because some of them work quite well and look good. The Nationals’ stars-and-stripes DC looks ridiculous, but the only good thing about the uniform is that they wear red sleeves; it WORKS.

    This is the 2000s. Baseball uniforms tend to evolve every now and then. Hell, today’s uniforms are so much less outrageous than those in the 70s and 80s, so what’s to complain about? Deal with it.[/quote]

    Please take the last seven words of your post and apply them to your complaints about a web site that entertains you every day for free.

    Phil and I aren’t here to provide content that you agree with 100%. We’re here to say what we think, delve into some issues that interest us, and explore the parameters of a genre that we find fascinating. If you dig, great; if not, boo-fucking-hoo.

    Cracks me up when someone says, “I’m sick of [some line of uni critique].” Oh, you’re sick of that, are you? Really gets under your skin when Phil says he doesn’t like solid-color jerseys? Sends your blood pressure spiking thru the roof and then the whole day is ruined?

    Here’s what I’M sick of: Losers who think Uni Watch is supposed to be exactly what they want it to be. Guess what: There a thousands of readers out there, and very few of them like every little thing we do. Uni Watch is many different things to many different people. Some folks love the DIY stuff, others don’t; some folks love the historical stuff, others don’t; some folks love the Photoshop stuff, others don’t. Phil and I can’t please everyone, so we do our best to please ourselves, share our enthusiasm by writing about it, and invite everyone to come along for the ride. If you want to accept that invitation, cool; if not, no biggie. Either way, the idea that you’re “sick of” a certain point of view being expressed here is beyond pathetic.

    End of rant.

  • DOUGLAS | May 2, 2009 at 3:48 pm |

    From the spanish Derby, NOB blunder for Real Madrid player Javi Garcia spelled “GRACIA”, caps coming.

  • Sam D. | May 2, 2009 at 3:56 pm |

    Paul, I love Uni Watch, I visit it everyday, but I don’t get how it’s pathetic for me to express my distaste for something that I see all the time that I don’t like. You guys can say what you want; that’s cool, because that’s your opinion. I gave my opinion, so there you go. Maybe I should have said something along the lines of “I disagree” instead of “stop it.” If I say I’m sick of something, it doesn’t mean I’m absolutely furious, which is how you sounded in your response. So I’m sorry if I sounded aggressive, but you didn’t have to get all up in my grillz about it either.

    I mostly enjoy Phil’s posts. I LOVED the powder blue entries last weekend and the “what if” creations with the reversed team names and cities.

    I don’t think Uni Watch should be exactly how I want it to be. I plan on getting a membership very soon, so I hope I didn’t just disqualify myself.

    As for alternate jerseys, I agree with mmwatkin. Alts have gotten out of control, but they’re certainly not a bad thing.

  • Dan | May 2, 2009 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”327168″][quote comment=”327138″]Those MS Paint Nationals pictures look really bush league. In fact, all of the MS Paint art you’ve done over the last few weekends has looked equally horrendous. Please don’t do that any more, you’re just embarrassing yourself. And really, was that whole Nats section even needed…or were you just bored and looking for more material to make an already long post longer?[/quote]

    you people make me absolutely sick sometimes, i can not believe a comment like this even exists. you sir are one of the all time colassal… (blah blah blah blah blah)[/quote]

    Opinions are opinions, and there’s no need to get heated. I’d rather not get too deep into the “complaining about a free site” thing because it’s silly, but I tend to agree with the MS Paint shenanigans. The concepts themselves are good food for thought. I think most people here like seeing uni concepts, and I’m not criticizing the concepts themselves.

    The execution is just comically poor. Seriously, just learn Photoshop! It’s not that hard!

    Here’s how I see it: If a band were to put on a free concert and sucked, the free admission would not keep people from saying that they suck. If they want to continue to play concerts, they should get better, or learn to deal with sucking.

    The writing on this site has always been great, and the points presented are fair points regardless of whether or not people agree. But presentation matters, and MS Paint “art” always sucks.

  • Sam D. | May 2, 2009 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”327170″][quote comment=”327167″][quote comment=”327162″]Phil, just stop it with the photoshop. If you had it your way, all MLB teams would have really bland uniforms with only one color. I’m sick of people referring to alternates as “softball jerseys,” because some of them work quite well and look good. The Nationals’ stars-and-stripes DC looks ridiculous, but the only good thing about the uniform is that they wear red sleeves; it WORKS.

    This is the 2000s. Baseball uniforms tend to evolve every now and then. Hell, today’s uniforms are so much less outrageous than those in the 70s and 80s, so what’s to complain about? Deal with it.[/quote]

    I think a lot of people who are against the alternates only hold that position because alts in MLB have gotten out of control. Teams should not have 4 or 5 different uniforms to use. It has gotten to the point where some teams (White Sox) are just wearing the same alt for weeks at a time (or seems like it). Unfortunately I don’t see this trend changing anytime soon ($$$).

    If i was the commish, I would make a rule that a team can only have one alternate uniform that could be only worn at home a maximum of 15 times a year. That would allow teams who want to wear a Sunday or Friday alt to do so, and prevent teams from going all willy-nilly with alts all the time.[/quote]

    thanks, kind sir…for so eloquently stating what i obviously failed to convey…so…let me try…

    1) i’m NOT against alternates — this is a uni board — the MORE unis the more to discuss…i am however, against bad unis

    2) alternates should be somewhat special — therefore, i agree that their use should be severly curtailed

    3) im NOT against multiple alternates in a season, per se, but this random mix and match with 2 or 5 alternates has gotten OUT OF HAND…

    4) in baseball, at least, TOPS and BOTTOMS must match…period…if you want to wear a black ‘softball top’ then pair it was black pants…then it becomes a uniform…otherwise it’s a little league outfit…old school teams didn’t only wear white or gray, so i don’t have a hard and fast rule on those two choices only

    5) there were some EXCELLENT powder blues (as mike & ricko and i detailed last weekend) — there were also some AWFUL ones; while the current pods’ piss sand colored unis suck, i LOVED their brown and mustard unis (some of them — didn’t like the brown tops with mustard pants) …

    6) i even liked the phils all maroons, the injuns all reds and the pirates all-yellows — jury is still out on the orioles all-oranges…but (with the exception of the pirates) those were worn so sparingly so as to be special — not something we saw 27 times a season

    7) do i like “boring” uniforms? no…but what’s boring to YOU may be “classic” to me, and there is nothing wrong with a uni that will look great in 30 years being worn today — the yankees? check back in 2037 — i bet they’ll STILL look like that

    8) i don’t mind teams trying different things…however, that doesn’t mean what’s ‘fresh’ today will be any good tomorrow … certain things just WORK … there’s a reason they do

    9) let’s all agree to disagree on certain things…if you don’t like what i do, that’s fine and you’re wrong so deal with it and that’s what makes UW great

    10) a bad uniform is a bad uniform … we may disagree on what makes a bad uniform, but if i don’t like the looks of something, i will try to suggest something else or why i think it would work better … you may not agree with me, but rather than ripping on me how about you suggesting something else or articulating what about the current uni it is you like

    …none of these points were directed to anyone in particular…just wanted to try and state a few of my uni points of view[/quote]

    2 & 3. Good point. I actually agree with you on that one.

    4. I disagree. I wouldn’t want to see the Mets wearing black pants.

    5. That was an awesome entry. The Padres’ current roadies are indeed quite strange. They should go back to the uniforms they wore in 1969.

    6. Me too.

    7. I don’t think the classic unis like the Yankees’ are boring. I’m sorry if I put down your taste.

    9. True. I should have put my entry into different words. I’m sorry.

    10 That’s cool, I just didn’t like the way it looked.

  • Paul Lukas | May 2, 2009 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”327175″]Paul, I love Uni Watch, I visit it everyday, but I don’t get how it’s pathetic for me to express my distaste for something that I see all the time that I don’t like. You guys can say what you want; that’s cool, because that’s your opinion. I gave my opinion, so there you go. Maybe I should have said something along the lines of “I disagree” instead of “stop it.” If I say I’m sick of something, it doesn’t mean I’m absolutely furious, which is how you sounded in your response. So I’m sorry if I sounded aggressive, but you didn’t have to get all up in my grillz about it either.

    I mostly enjoy Phil’s posts. I LOVED the powder blue entries last weekend and the “what if” creations with the reversed team names and cities.

    I don’t think Uni Watch should be exactly how I want it to be. I plan on getting a membership very soon, so I hope I didn’t just disqualify myself.

    As for alternate jerseys, I agree with mmwatkin. Alts have gotten out of control, but they’re certainly not a bad thing.[/quote]

    Thanks for having a more civil tone than I did…. But comments that say things like “It’s the 2000s, live it” don’t advance the ball — it’s a reductive point of view, because it basically says, “Things are the way they are and that’s that and there’s nothing more to be said.” But there’s actually PLENTY more to be said, and one of them is that solid-color alts look like shit. Another is that the only reason solid-color alts exist is to move product at the merch counter.

    If you love solid-color alts, fine — say so! Defend them! But saying, “This is the 2000s, live with it” is a non-argument, a non-starter. It’s really just a slightly less aggressive way of saying, “Shut the fuck up,” which doesn’t contribute anything.

    Do Phil and I know that lots of baseball fans like solid-color alts? Sure. I also know that lots of music fans like Britney Spears, but that doesn’t mean I’ll stop recommending the new PT Walkley album. I also know lots of people enjoy filet mignon, but that won’t stop me from saying that it’s the most overrated muscle on the steer. Do you think minority positions aren’t worth expressing? Or does it just bug you when the minority point of view won’t shut the fuck up?

    I have no problem with people disagreeing with the points of view expressed on Uni Watch. But I have a major problem when you say you’re “sick of” a certain line of argument and that we should “live with” whatever it is that you like and we don’t like.

    And now I’m off to a Derby party, so a lovely rest of the day to all, and my apologies for my heated tone earlier.

  • LarryB | May 2, 2009 at 4:25 pm |

    some great pictures of the Derby today. The big hats and the colorful jocky uniforms. This was a great picture

    http://farm4.static....

    I try and watch the actual race. But all the hours of pre race talk I can do without. The only thing is trying not to miss the race.

    Nice mix of old pictures and new of the Derby.

  • LarryB | May 2, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    And what are the reasons for any negative poster here? I mean why be so crtical of anything that you may not like as far as peoples opinions.

    I do not mean just disagreeing on the looks of a new or old uniform. But to out and out bash something.

    As said there are many different tastes and opinions. I personally hate coconut. If any food has it in it I will spit it out. Others love it. So what.

    Ok one time a hot looking bartender lady made me something with coconut rum and that was tolerable.

    If somebody hates somebody elses work or opinion why the need to bash it here?

  • LarryB | May 2, 2009 at 4:48 pm |

    Like the other day on an Ohio State message board they were talking about recruits. They had a picture of 4 people doing O H I O. There was a picture of the photographers young daughter. Some jerk then asks who is the skinny chick with the big nose. The girl was not skinny and a nice looking young girl. What would make some jerk take the time to type that out and ask it?

    Grrr ok I guess I just don’t get the super negative or just plain stupid people sometime. But there are a lot of them

  • =bg= | May 2, 2009 at 5:14 pm |

    This is uni-related, as she is wearing a Cubbies jersey and cap.

    Having issued the disclaimer, wanna hear the single worst TAKE ME OUT rendition ever?

    Do you even DARE click this link?

    You have been warned.

    http://www.tmz.com/2...

  • Teebz | May 2, 2009 at 5:19 pm |

    Horse racing should feature more horses and less “small, weightless people” in fancy clothes.

    Bruins are olde-tyme hockey. The Hurricanes are simply running up dentist bills.

    Phil, the best compliment you can get is that people are pissed. Why? They read your article. And that’s all that matters in the end.

    Opinions are like assh_les… we all have them, and the majority of them stink.

  • Tony Miller | May 2, 2009 at 5:21 pm |

    The Seattle Times reports that the A’s and Mariners will wear high socks as part of their 1939 PCL throwback tonight. Will anyone notice if Josh Outman pitches?

  • Tony Miller | May 2, 2009 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”327182″]This is uni-related, as she is wearing a Cubbies jersey and cap.

    Having issued the disclaimer, wanna hear the single worst TAKE ME OUT rendition ever?

    Do you even DARE click this link?

    You have been warned.

    http://www.tmz.com/2...

    Ozzy Osbourne was too. Don’t tell me his version was better.

  • JP | May 2, 2009 at 5:50 pm |

    Here is my 2 cents on the alt jersey argument. As a fan, I am more apt to buy an alt jersey because I know that I will be good and hammered and most stadium food tends to be quite messy. I do not own a white jersey and if I did, it would be ruined the first day I wear it.

    That being said, teams with more than three uniform tops are just pushing it. Stick with three.

  • Scott | May 2, 2009 at 5:52 pm |

    Enough bickering. Let’s give some props to #6, Jake, what a tremendous find!

    Randy Macho Man Savage’s ring-wear, are you kidding me?! And those prices? Amazing!

    Some guy living in his mom’s basement is gonna be ALL OVER that stuff …. saved up his lawn-mowing money since the 80s for just this treat.

  • Eric | May 2, 2009 at 6:05 pm |

    What the fuck is this?
    http://yahoosports.t...

  • JTH | May 2, 2009 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”327186″][quote comment=”327182″]This is uni-related, as she is wearing a Cubbies jersey and cap.

    Having issued the disclaimer, wanna hear the single worst TAKE ME OUT rendition ever?

    Do you even DARE click this link?

    You have been warned.

    http://www.tmz.com/2...

    Ozzy Osbourne was too. Don’t tell me his version was better.[/quote]

    Two good reasons why they need to shitcan this “tradition” and fast. Like, maybe 10 years ago would be good.

    If you’ve got someone who’s relevant to the team/situation (e.g. Ernie Banks) who wants to sing it on a given day, let that person do it. Otherwise, just play a recording of Harry Caray.

    Want two more good reasons?

    Jeff Gordon

    Mike Ditka

  • denverjason | May 2, 2009 at 6:17 pm |

    I thought maybe I would dicuss uniforms, not blog etiquette. So…..
    I’m sure this is old news, but what’s the deal here with the Washington B*****s’ jerseys?
    http://i.cdn.turner....

  • =bg= | May 2, 2009 at 6:19 pm |

    http://www.profootba...

    heh heh..LANDSHARK STADIUM.

  • LarryB | May 2, 2009 at 6:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”327185″]The Seattle Times reports that the A’s and Mariners will wear high socks as part of their 1939 PCL throwback tonight. Will anyone notice if Josh Outman pitches?[/quote]

    Here are some old Seattle and Oakland uniforms

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

    http://img.photobuck...

  • Mike Engle | May 2, 2009 at 6:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”327191″]I thought maybe I would dicuss uniforms, not blog etiquette. So…..
    I’m sure this is old news, but what’s the deal here with the Washington B*****s’ jerseys?
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    Somebody throw this in the pile of FAQ’s, along with the green dot, Buccaneers’ practice font, green dot, and C=100 for UCLA.
    The guy trailing Elvin Hayes is wearing an inside-out Bullets road jersey with Bullets road shorts because he is really a San Antonio Spur. Forget his name, but his jersey was stolen before the game, thus his improvised dark jersey.

  • Stuby | May 2, 2009 at 6:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”327192″]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/02/dolphin-stadium-to-be-renamed-land-shark-stadium/

    heh heh..LANDSHARK STADIUM.[/quote]
    That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. How many names has that place had now?

  • u2-horn | May 2, 2009 at 7:28 pm |
  • Lwiedy | May 2, 2009 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”327149″]seeing is the most important thing[/quote]

    ”It’s not THAT important” –WMH

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2009 at 7:45 pm |

    ok…back (didja miss me?)

    anyhoo…thanks to anyone who posted today, whether or not you agree with me (or paul or anyone else)…

    point taken on the MS paint…and yes, i wish i were as good at photoshop as many on here are…i wasn’t posting those washington natinals jerseys to show how good i am at anything…it was the best i can do, and it was simply to try and make a point the best way i know how…but unless i can improve my skills or get paulie to give even more of his limited time to mock up stuff for me, you’ll just have to settle for word-based ‘visuals’ if i make any suggestions for improving a uni from now on (ok, no promises…but anything i post from now on will be really good or i won’t post it at all)

    but one of the pleasures i’ve had these past few months has been working with any number of the fantastic contributors to the site … so if you have a critique for me, im all ears and i’ll try to improve with each and every post — you don’t like the pseudo-pshops? i hear ya

    you don’t like my taste in unis? that’s fine — say so, and lets engage in a civil and productive conversation — im sure most of the posters and readers here are here for the same reason, and thank god there are people out there like paul (who provide all of us, including myself, with a forum like uni watch)

    … “we” (uni watchers as a ‘genre,’ genus and community) may be a small and probably extremely fucked up (and i mean that in the nicest way) group, but it’s nice to know there are others out there who share the obsession — whether you dig the neon yellow ducks or the nittanys, or the yankees or the 1970’s astros rainbows, it’s all good!

    imo keep posting what i feel are interesting and hopefully thought provoking things on uniforms, and those who love them … and i thank you all and paul for giving me the opportunity

    and if you ever have a suggestion, question or topic you’d like to explore…you know where to reach me

  • =bg= | May 2, 2009 at 7:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”327195″][quote comment=”327192″]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/02/dolphin-stadium-to-be-renamed-land-shark-stadium/

    heh heh..LANDSHARK STADIUM.[/quote]
    That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. How many names has that place had now?[/quote]

    Well, here we have:

    PacBell Park
    SBC Park
    AT&T Park

    Candlestick Park
    3Com Park
    Monster Park
    San Francisco Stadium @ Candlestick Point
    Candlestick Park

    Oakland Coliseum
    Network Associates Coliseum
    McAfee Coliseum
    Oakland Coliseum

    Oakland Arena
    Oracle Arena

    And I forget how many the Sharks place has had- now it’s HP Pavilion, which is not bad as far as names go given the dual meaning- but no one one calls it that- it’s “The Shark Tank.”

  • mike 2 | May 2, 2009 at 8:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”327192″]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/02/dolphin-stadium-to-be-renamed-land-shark-stadium/

    heh heh..LANDSHARK STADIUM.[/quote]

    I assume that was their third choice, after Flowers and Candygram

  • Mike Engle | May 2, 2009 at 8:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”327200″][quote comment=”327192″]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/02/dolphin-stadium-to-be-renamed-land-shark-stadium/

    heh heh..LANDSHARK STADIUM.[/quote]

    I assume that was their third choice, after Flowers and Candygram[/quote]
    Almost. Landshark was the third choice after Pizza Man and Plumber.
    (Insert appropriate SNL clip, which I can’t find on YouTube, sorry, here.)

  • Ricko | May 2, 2009 at 8:45 pm |

    Awww, the Cowboys practice thingee faww down.

  • Ricko | May 2, 2009 at 8:49 pm |

    Oh, of course I glad no one was seriously injured.

    It’s just that I imagine they’re absolutely shocked that such a thing could happen to an organization so Chosen.

  • Ry Co 40 | May 2, 2009 at 8:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”327138″]Those MS Paint Nationals pictures look really bush league. In fact, all of the MS Paint art you’ve done over the last few weekends has looked equally horrendous. Please don’t do that any more, you’re just embarrassing yourself. And really, was that whole Nats section even needed…or were you just bored and looking for more material to make an already long post longer?[/quote]

    dontcha just love when powers logs on under a fake name??? haha

  • Ry Co 40 | May 2, 2009 at 9:08 pm |

    i REALLY hope none of the negative comments bothered you today phil! keep doin’ watcha do!!! same goes for you paul!

    most people here know how hard it is to come up with new material every week and every day (although, the natinals sure are helping out the cause. put them on the uni watch christmas card list! haha). you make it fun, and you make it look easy!

    i’m sure, like me, a lot of people here aren’t all that into horse racing… but i’m also sure, like me, they read today’s post from “So” to “cheers”!

    thanks guys!

  • Kek | May 2, 2009 at 9:13 pm |

    is kirk heinrich wearing converse weapons?

  • Prexy Hater | May 2, 2009 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”327201″][quote comment=”327200″][quote comment=”327192″]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/02/dolphin-stadium-to-be-renamed-land-shark-stadium/

    heh heh..LANDSHARK STADIUM.[/quote]

    I assume that was their third choice, after Flowers and Candygram[/quote]
    Almost. Landshark was the third choice after Pizza Man and Plumber.
    (Insert appropriate SNL clip, which I can’t find on YouTube, sorry, here.)[/quote]

    I wonder if Jimmy Buffet knows about Jaws 2…

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2009 at 9:18 pm |

    mlb network giving us the uni matchup of the year, ftw

  • NickBob | May 2, 2009 at 9:22 pm |

    OMG, the Seattle – Oakland game is fucking awesome. Striped socks worn high, batting helmets matching the uni’s, the announcer is even wearing a flat straw hat. I hope someone has pics to share because this is something the entire readership would cheer for.

  • Kek | May 2, 2009 at 9:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”327208″]mlb network giving us the uni matchup of the year, ftw[/quote]
    wow….holy sh*t those are sweet all around.

    I was going to make a joke about you being wrong and the best uni-game of the night was really on WGN (ChiSox in black alts and Texas Texases in Red!) but I changed the channel and saw those beautiful kits.

  • Wollen1 | May 2, 2009 at 9:25 pm |

    The ’39 Seattle Rainiers throwbacks are sick. Looks like all the players are playing along by going high socks too. The Oakland ’39 uni’s look very busy, but still really cool.

  • pretty boy paulie | May 2, 2009 at 9:29 pm |

    Shhheeesh people. Bad photoshop or not you at least get the idea he’s trying to convey. No need for harsh words.

    But…I like the Nats current uni. Logos, wordmark, typeface, beveling and all. Except the blue alts…and red alts. I really liked last year’s much better.

    I will say the road jersey looks great without the white outline.

  • Hibbs | May 2, 2009 at 9:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”327194″][quote comment=”327191″]I thought maybe I would dicuss uniforms, not blog etiquette. So…..
    I’m sure this is old news, but what’s the deal here with the Washington B*****s’ jerseys?
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    Somebody throw this in the pile of FAQ’s, along with the green dot, Buccaneers’ practice font, green dot, and C=100 for UCLA.
    The guy trailing Elvin Hayes is wearing an inside-out Bullets road jersey with Bullets road shorts because he is really a San Antonio Spur. Forget his name, but his jersey was stolen before the game, thus his improvised dark jersey.[/quote]

    Poor guy. He even prefaced it with, “I’m sure this is old news…”
    Don’t forget Ocho Cinco. I got jumped on for bringing that one in as old news. I was afraid to post a comment for days.

  • Craig | May 2, 2009 at 9:36 pm |

    In response to the whole alternate jersey thing, I would say that I am a fan of some of them. Repeat, some of them.

    But alas, I am a UniWatch reader and a Nats fan, so I’m sure you can already guess how I feel about our alts this year…

    enjoy the beautiful rainiers festivities!

  • LI Phil | May 2, 2009 at 9:37 pm |

    [quote]I hope someone has pics to share because this is something the entire readership would cheer for.[/quote]

    well…tomorrow’s post is something i’ve had planned (with a special guest) for some time, and im not gonna scrap it now…BUT…i will scour teh interwebs for as many pics as i can find and add that to tomorrow’s post…

    and it’s a gooder…so be sure to check back tomorrow

  • Cathy | May 2, 2009 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”327189″]What the fuck is this?
    http://yahoosports.t...

    I meant to post these in March. My sister and I went to Phoenix for Spring Training and I ran across THIS http://www.flickr.co... in the Phoenix Airport….ugh http://www.flickr.co... Kind of a Super Bowl themed jersey that was UGLY! It

    My sister was embarrassed that I made her stop with me to take the photos…but she knows of my uniform Fetish.

    Phil, I love your weekend posts!

  • =bg= | May 2, 2009 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”327201″][quote comment=”327200″][quote comment=”327192″]http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/02/dolphin-stadium-to-be-renamed-land-shark-stadium/

    heh heh..LANDSHARK STADIUM.[/quote]

    I assume that was their third choice, after Flowers and Candygram[/quote]
    Almost. Landshark was the third choice after Pizza Man and Plumber.
    (Insert appropriate SNL clip, which I can’t find on YouTube, sorry, here.)[/quote]

    “Who is it?”
    “Candygram.”
    http://video.aol.com...

  • Eric B in KC | May 2, 2009 at 10:24 pm |

    there are four different styles of headwear worn in tonights Royals/Twins game: the standard Royals cap and helmet, the Twins’ red crown/navy brim caps, Twins’ navy batting helmets on the hitters and batboys, and the Twins’ white panel front batting helmets on Joe Mauer and the 1st and 3rd base coaches.

    all four were shown in one shot: a Royal at the plate, Mauer catching, the bat boy in the background just to the left of the Twins’ dugout. it was a strange shot.

    i know the Twins have taken some heat on this site for the early 80s throwbacks but i love them. that’s what they wore when i first started paying attention to them back when i used to visit my dad’s side of the family in Richfield back then. i had the red/blue batting helmet when i was little and wore it almost every day one summer.

  • Ricko | May 2, 2009 at 11:17 pm |

    Jack Kemp has died. Stange, was thinking about him just last week I was digging through my files, pulling out first-yar AFL photos for a series of paintings I intend to do. The Chargers I’ll be using are Jack Kemp and Paul Lowe.

    Of course, early on in his days as the L.A. Chargers QB he was “Jackie Kemp.”

    And, for awhile there a lot of people (me included) though he might get a shot at running for President one day.

    Sad. He was one of my favorite early AFL guys.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | May 2, 2009 at 11:19 pm |

    I suppose I should include one of those photos.
    http://farm4.static....
    RIP, Jack Kemp.

    —Ricko

  • scott | May 2, 2009 at 11:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”327211″]The ’39 Seattle Rainiers throwbacks are sick. Looks like all the players are playing along by going high socks too. The Oakland ’39 uni’s look very busy, but still really cool.[/quote]

    I love when both teams play along for a turn back the clock game.

  • Ricko | May 3, 2009 at 12:04 am |

    [quote comment=”327221″][quote comment=”327211″]The ’39 Seattle Rainiers throwbacks are sick. Looks like all the players are playing along by going high socks too. The Oakland ’39 uni’s look very busy, but still really cool.[/quote]

    I love when both teams play along for a turn back the clock game.[/quote]

    Would have been nice if the A’s had gone with black shoes, though. The highlights looked like some kind of “sneaker game” from 60 years ago. The A’s have worn black in the past for such games (a photo of Mark McGuire in an Oaks throwback wearing black cleats was posted here a while back).

    —Ricko

  • Mike R. | May 3, 2009 at 1:03 am |

    Photo’s from the a’s-mariners game

    http://www.athletics...

  • LarryB | May 3, 2009 at 1:08 am |

    I spent a lot of time looking for the Pacquiao Hatton fight online. Thought I had it and then it stopped. Kept trying and trying with no luck. Then on ESPN News they said it was over in 2nd round. Wow Manny is a tough one.

    So I missed the highlights for the Oakland Seatlle game. Just caught a play on MLB. So thanks for the pics of it.

    Awesome

  • A | May 3, 2009 at 2:51 am |

    Hey, dig your blog! You probably know, but the Seattle Mariners and visiting Oakland A’s had throwback jerseys on. Seattle had the Seattle Rainiers, and Oakland, Oakland Oaks. Both 1939, from the Pacific Coast League. I posted about it on my blog. http://baseball363.b.... I probably could have gone on a bit, but I am not quite as Uni knowledgeable as you!

  • RobT | May 3, 2009 at 4:05 am |

    Now of all the uniforms that don’t need to be altered in anyway, it is the Nationals road uniforms. I think its nice that they gave a small nod to their Expos past, by wearing a uniform that is essentially the same design (aside from the numbers) as the Expos last road uniform. I’d have liked them to go all the way and replicate the numbers too, but its definitely a good start for us die hard Expos fans.

  • Greg B. | May 3, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    The shot of the Red Sox 2nd Baseman vs. the Rays: Red Socks! Aren’t they supposed to be wearing Blue Socks with the road unis?

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