And You Just Know Powers Has Notebooks Full of Similar Stuff

Dont forget, today is the day the Los Angeles…Err Detroit Lions ‘unveil’ their new crappy Bengals font ripoffs….err…uniforms,
with new and improved Bubbles the lion! Now with a certain bodily fluid stuck in his mane!

can someone who’s computer inclined make up a mock of what the new stuff wouldve looked like with blue pants circa 1990s?

What “tea parties” have to do with uniforms is anyones guess. I read this site so I don’t have to deal with the news, but somehow the real world seeps into even uniwatch, yuck!

“I’ll convene a tea party full of boorish losers to protest”

Classy.

I believe Padilla is wearing Akadema spikes.

They are a baseball company from NJ.

Great Stuff.

That definately looks like the Akadema logo… Ive seen alot of their softball stuff from around the diamonds.

Sad to read about the passing of “Mr. Inside.” Those mid-1940’s Army football unis were classic.

[quote comment=”324474″]That definately looks like the Akadema logo… Ive seen alot of their softball stuff from around the diamonds.[/quote]

Doogie…You have made the jump to UW….Welcome!

And introducing your Washington “Natinals”

link

from 4/18

[quote comment=”324470″]”I’ll convene a tea party full of boorish losers to protest”

Classy.[/quote]
It’s so boorish and loser-like to participate in a constitutionally protected right. What a bunch of jerks for convening peacefully for something that they believe in. The nerve.

Just throwing this out there, but I usually only read at work(i.e. monday-friday) and it is only by chance that I caught saturday’s entry. You may want to post a link in the ticker routing back to it for the rest out there.

Love the new website…the whole endeavor, really.

Wish I was in NYC to see it. Good Luck!

re: UCLA tight end’s injury possibly being related to his adidias cleats (item in the Ticker)…

About five years ago I always wore adidas for softball (or anything else athletic), playing virtually year ’round because of our access to a domed private high school football field a couple mornings a week.

My Achilles tendons began to hurt so badly afterward I sometimes could barely walk, and the pain would wake me at night every time I rolled over. After several trips to orthopedists and foot specialists (was it related to Planter Fasciitis; who knew), I was almost certain I was going to need surgery on both heels. Finally, I dug out a pair of Nike MCS Slams I had bought a long time time earlier and gave them a try. I stuck to Nike for awhile and, after two weeks, both my Achilles stopped hurting altogether.

I switched to Nike completely, gave all the adidas cleats to the Twins’ RBI Program for Inner City Baseball (sure hope I didn’t give some kid Achilles issues) and have been fine ever since.

Not saying Nike is wonderful, just that I can tell you first-hand (or is it first-foot?) that the brand of shoe/cleat CAN be the issue.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”324481″][quote comment=”324480″]i know i personally tried to introduce a line of tenniswear, even designed my own logo and wore it on a blank white shirt for a high school match…[/quote]

I beg your pardon?

Phil, you’ve been holding out on me/us. You have to dig out (or re-create) all this old material. NOW!

Also, folks, I’ve been bugging Phil to do an entry on his tennis stylings (the guy plays several times a week and even missed the Mets’ Opening Day Night game because it was his regular tennis night, which will give you an idea of how dedicated he is), but he keeps saying, “Nah, nobody’s interested in that.” I think he’s wrong about that. What say ye, readers — are you interested? Let him hear it![/quote]
Yeah. Definitely.

Also, I want to know if any video (or photos, at the very least) of that high school tennis match.

[quote comment=”324485″][quote comment=”324470″]”I’ll convene a tea party full of boorish losers to protest”

Classy.[/quote]
It’s so boorish and loser-like to participate in a constitutionally protected right. What a bunch of jerks for convening peacefully for something that they believe in. The nerve.[/quote]
The protests in and of themselves are fine. However, some of the tactics employed by these protesters certainly cross the line into the realm of boorishness.

P.S. Anyone who equates a tax increase with tyranny really needs to do a little research as to what the word truly means.

[quote comment=”324497″][quote comment=”324496″]”Taquila Sunrise” should only be reserved for the originators … henceforth, these VT unis can be deemed “Sangria Sunrise.”[/quote]

Genius.[/quote]

And the blue version would be the “Blue Curacao Sunrise”.
(Or the “Tidy Bowl Sunset”, depending on one’s opinion of them, I suppose.)
I recall a burgundy-gray version, too. “Sloe Gin Fizz Sunrise”?

LOL

—Ricko

Was a forest-kelly-lime one, too.
“Midori Sunrise”?

Might have to update the Glossary, Paul.

I thought that comment about the tea-party people was pretty weak. Especially since it’s the 2nd or 3rd time that it’s made its way into this blog about sports uniforms.

Remember how under the last president, “dissent is patriotic.” Now, under the new president, not so much?

Care to comment on that Paul ?

Wow, I wasn’t trying to slam Jersey Joe. Just bad timing I guess. Sorry, random guy.

[quote comment=”324495″][quote comment=”324485″][quote comment=”324470″]”I’ll convene a tea party full of boorish losers to protest”

Classy.[/quote]
It’s so boorish and loser-like to participate in a constitutionally protected right. What a bunch of jerks for convening peacefully for something that they believe in. The nerve.[/quote]
The protests in and of themselves are fine. However, some of the tactics employed by these protesters certainly cross the line into the realm of boorishness.

P.S. Anyone who equates a tax increase with tyranny really needs to do a little research as to what the word truly means.[/quote]
Maybe it’s just Monday morning, but how did we get on this again? I re-read the ticker and unless something there hasn’t jumped off the page and slapped me in the face, I don’t see where we got down this path again.

The tea party in my hometown (Johnstown, PA) was supposedly a success, but I’m not so sure how much, they held it three days late! I guess they thought that more people would be off on Saturday, I don’t know.

[quote comment=”324507″][quote comment=”324495″][quote comment=”324485″][quote comment=”324470″]”I’ll convene a tea party full of boorish losers to protest”

Classy.[/quote]
It’s so boorish and loser-like to participate in a constitutionally protected right. What a bunch of jerks for convening peacefully for something that they believe in. The nerve.[/quote]
The protests in and of themselves are fine. However, some of the tactics employed by these protesters certainly cross the line into the realm of boorishness.

P.S. Anyone who equates a tax increase with tyranny really needs to do a little research as to what the word truly means.[/quote]
Maybe it’s just Monday morning, but how did we get on this again? I re-read the ticker and unless something there hasn’t jumped off the page and slapped me in the face, I don’t see where we got down this path again.

The tea party in my hometown (Johnstown, PA) was supposedly a success, but I’m not so sure how much, they held it three days late! I guess they thought that more people would be off on Saturday, I don’t know.[/quote]
Nevermind, I see the strike through.

[quote comment=”324511″][quote comment=”324503″]I thought that comment about the tea-party people was pretty weak. Especially since it’s the 2nd or 3rd time that it’s made its way into this blog about sports uniforms.

Remember how under the last president, “dissent is patriotic.” Now, under the new president, not so much?

Care to comment on that Paul ?[/quote]

Joe, you don’t get to decide what this site is about. I do. The end.

But in any case, who said you couldn’t dissent?

And who said I couldn’t make fun of people who (a) invoke the specter of “Taxation without representation is tyranny” yet (b) have full representation and are not tyrannized? Grow up.

Now let’s move on.[/quote]
You couldn’t be more wrong Paul….the King of England could just walk in here any time he wants, and start shoving you around. Do you want that? Huh? Do you?

[quote comment=”324504″]Don’t listen to these fools, Paul! I love the tea party jokes! Keep ’em coming!

Besides, it’s clear, at least to me, that he doesn’t have a problem with the fact that they’re protesting so much as the fact that (a) they think our current situation is equivalent to the one that incited the original tea party and (b) there were signs like “Hitler=Obama” and this well-educated fellow: link

After all, who could argue that descent is the highest form of patriotic?[/quote]

I still say that guy’s pants are too damn long.

[quote comment=”324514″]Here’s the link from Deadspin about those Jazz fans:

link
Where’s Billy Joe Cuthbert in that picture?

[quote comment=”324515″][quote comment=”324504″]Don’t listen to these fools, Paul! I love the tea party jokes! Keep ’em coming!

Besides, it’s clear, at least to me, that he doesn’t have a problem with the fact that they’re protesting so much as the fact that (a) they think our current situation is equivalent to the one that incited the original tea party and (b) there were signs like “Hitler=Obama” and this well-educated fellow: link

After all, who could argue that descent is the highest form of patriotic?[/quote]

I still say that guy’s pants are too damn long.[/quote]

He clearly doesn’t Get Itâ„¢.

[quote comment=”324513″][quote comment=”324511″][quote comment=”324503″]I thought that comment about the tea-party people was pretty weak. Especially since it’s the 2nd or 3rd time that it’s made its way into this blog about sports uniforms.

Remember how under the last president, “dissent is patriotic.” Now, under the new president, not so much?

Care to comment on that Paul ?[/quote]

Joe, you don’t get to decide what this site is about. I do. The end.

But in any case, who said you couldn’t dissent?

And who said I couldn’t make fun of people who (a) invoke the specter of “Taxation without representation is tyranny” yet (b) have full representation and are not tyrannized? Grow up.

Now let’s move on.[/quote]
You couldn’t be more wrong Paul….the King of England could just walk in here any time he wants, and start shoving you around. Do you want that? Huh? Do you?[/quote]

Moe Syzlak for the NRA!!

[quote comment=”324515″][quote comment=”324504″]Don’t listen to these fools, Paul! I love the tea party jokes! Keep ’em coming!

Besides, it’s clear, at least to me, that he doesn’t have a problem with the fact that they’re protesting so much as the fact that (a) they think our current situation is equivalent to the one that incited the original tea party and (b) there were signs like “Hitler=Obama” and this well-educated fellow: link

After all, who could argue that descent is the highest form of patriotic?[/quote]

I still say that guy’s pants are too damn long.[/quote]

Not only are his pants to long (they look like damn pajamas!) but his jacket has far to little acoutramant on the sleves. Additionally, ribbon wasn’t worn on the edges of the hat until after the revolution by any self respecting protestor. I’ve looked in Dressed to the (Seventeen Eighty) Nines, and clearly the protestors of the “tea-party” era wore tall socks with buttoned plus-fours, as opposed to this clown and his “rolled” pants, and what appear to be dress socks as opposed to silk socks. And no wig!

Don’t even get me started on the shoes….LACES? I demand the buckles which are period appropriate! If you’re going to do a throw-back, do it properly.

[/sarcasm]

[quote comment=”324522″][quote comment=”324520″][quote comment=”324516″][quote comment=”324504″]this well-educated fellow: link

link[/quote]

He also has a teeshirt that reads:
SPELLING CHIMP[/quote]

Or NATINALS.[/quote]

how funny is it that he’s wearing a cardinals t-shirt tho? but…with a natinals alt-thursday doo rag

[quote comment=”324497″][quote comment=”324496″]”Taquila Sunrise” should only be reserved for the originators … henceforth, these VT unis can be deemed “Sangria Sunrise.”[/quote]

Genius.[/quote]

Or, for Tulane, the Creme-De-Menthe Sunrise? What would the South Alabama Jaguars (red, white, and two shades of blue) have been?

We could go with the term that Medalist/Sand Knit came up with — UltraStripe. I don’t think that’s trademarked yet!

[quote comment=”324528″][quote comment=”324518″][quote comment=”324516″][quote comment=”324504″]this well-educated fellow: link

link[/quote]

What’s he got against Rick Moranis?[/quote]
Think he goes striped-side-out on the do-rag when he wears a white Cards t-shirt?[/quote]
I thought it was directed at actress Erin Moran. Maybe he thought spinning off “Joannie Loves Chachi” was a bad idea.

I thought these political bitchfests were put to rest last week…

I do find it interesting that people are railing on people who are protesting by linking Obama to Hitler but protests like link are accepted as normal everyday practice.

[quote comment=”324511″][quote comment=”324503″]I thought that comment about the tea-party people was pretty weak. Especially since it’s the 2nd or 3rd time that it’s made its way into this blog about sports uniforms.

Remember how under the last president, “dissent is patriotic.” Now, under the new president, not so much?

Care to comment on that Paul ?[/quote]

Joe, you don’t get to decide what this site is about. I do. The end.

But in any case, who said you couldn’t dissent?

And who said I couldn’t make fun of people who (a) invoke the specter of “Taxation without representation is tyranny” yet (b) have full representation and are not tyrannized? Grow up.

Now let’s move on.[/quote]

Your site, your rules. Fair enough. You can make fun of them if you want, I didn’t say anything to the contrary.

I still stand by what I said.

[quote comment=”324533″]I thought these political bitchfests were put to rest last week…

I do find it interesting that people are railing on people who are protesting by linking Obama to Hitler but protests like link are accepted as normal everyday practice.[/quote]
Just curious Beardface, what day on uniwatch specifically was that picture linked? I don’t recall a post with that photo with supporting verbiage. That’s quite an assumption.

Just found out my Monday night softball team is getting new jerseys (well, t-shirts) this year. Same logo, etc., just navy shirts instead of white, with red & white lettering instead red & black, so I’ll maybe pick up an all-navy Braves hat for ’09. Sponsor is Absolute Bail Bonds. Honest. Feels like playing for Buttermaker sometimes.

Anyone else getting (or got) new unis this year?

—Ricko

[quote comment=”324537″][quote comment=”324533″]I thought these political bitchfests were put to rest last week…

I do find it interesting that people are railing on people who are protesting by linking Obama to Hitler but protests like link are accepted as normal everyday practice.[/quote]
Just curious Beardface, what day on uniwatch specifically was that picture linked? I don’t recall a post with that photo with supporting verbiage. That’s quite an assumption.[/quote]
Its more of a statement toward the way society views things, and definitely how Paul views things on here. If you’re gonna bash a Republican, you don’t need any supporting evidence because the media (i.e. the ones with the ability to control the flow of information (and often the flow of misinformation)) is largely Democratic and will take anything with the slightest bit of truth as hard facts in relating to bashing the Reps. However, if you’re going to say anything negative about a Democrat, you better have prepared a 300 page thesis on the subject because there is no way any of it could possibly be true.

[quote comment=”324532″][quote comment=”324530″][quote comment=”324528″][quote comment=”324518″][quote comment=”324516″][quote comment=”324504″]this well-educated fellow: link

link[/quote]

What’s he got against Rick Moranis?[/quote]
Think he goes striped-side-out on the do-rag when he wears a white Cards t-shirt?[/quote]

Yes. And people argue that he should wear it that way on the road, too.[/quote]
Also, it’s good to see Kenny Powers fell on his feet with the redbirds after the deal with Tampa Bay fell through.[/quote]

I’ve been trying to hide this fact from all of you for sometime…but alas Phil unearthed a vital clue last night:

link

Keny Powers wearing the road gray in addition to the navy cap in my driveway puts the nail in the coffin!

He is my “Tyler Durden”.

“Red Elmos”? Really?

Srsly, that quilt is awesome. Props to Adam Cohen’s friend’s mom.

[quote comment=”324533″]I thought these political bitchfests were put to rest last week…

I do find it interesting that people are railing on people who are protesting by linking Obama to Hitler but protests like link are accepted as normal everyday practice.[/quote]

There are two kinds of people who would equate a politician to Hitler: people who think hyperbole is equivalent to a valid point, and 7th graders who want their friends to think they’re cool. And that goes for both sides.

Sorry, I kind of feel like I’ve been an instigator on the political stuff. It’s my major at school, and I seriously can’t get enough. I’ll try and keep it under control from now on. Ha.

[quote comment=”324541″][quote comment=”324537″][quote comment=”324533″]I thought these political bitchfests were put to rest last week…

I do find it interesting that people are railing on people who are protesting by linking Obama to Hitler but protests like link are accepted as normal everyday practice.[/quote]
Just curious Beardface, what day on uniwatch specifically was that picture linked? I don’t recall a post with that photo with supporting verbiage. That’s quite an assumption.[/quote]
Its more of a statement toward the way society views things, and definitely how Paul views things on here. If you’re gonna bash a Republican, you don’t need any supporting evidence because the media (i.e. the ones with the ability to control the flow of information (and often the flow of misinformation)) is largely Democratic and will take anything with the slightest bit of truth as hard facts in relating to bashing the Reps. However, if you’re going to say anything negative about a Democrat, you better have prepared a 300 page thesis on the subject because there is no way any of it could possibly be true.[/quote]
Fair enough, but Hitler comparisons are always a slippery slope. I get what you were trying to say though. I’ve got a big hangup on Hitler comparisons, look, I disagreed with 98% of what President Bush did in office and stood for, but to compare him to Hitler is obscene. I don’t accept that as “normal everyday practice”.

Plus, I think there was some chuckling to the idea that these parties were supposedly non-partisan yet the “Obama’s a Socialist”, “Obama=Hitler” and “Go back to Africa” signs took all of 15 minutes to come out.

[quote comment=”324548″][quote comment=”324541″][quote comment=”324537″][quote comment=”324533″]I thought these political bitchfests were put to rest last week…

I do find it interesting that people are railing on people who are protesting by linking Obama to Hitler but protests like link are accepted as normal everyday practice.[/quote]
Just curious Beardface, what day on uniwatch specifically was that picture linked? I don’t recall a post with that photo with supporting verbiage. That’s quite an assumption.[/quote]
Its more of a statement toward the way society views things, and definitely how Paul views things on here. If you’re gonna bash a Republican, you don’t need any supporting evidence because the media (i.e. the ones with the ability to control the flow of information (and often the flow of misinformation)) is largely Democratic and will take anything with the slightest bit of truth as hard facts in relating to bashing the Reps. However, if you’re going to say anything negative about a Democrat, you better have prepared a 300 page thesis on the subject because there is no way any of it could possibly be true.[/quote]

It just been a 10 days or so of Double Standards at their best.
“Protesting is just plain wrong, and dissent is unpatriotic. Oh, wait, WE have something to protest? Okay, then, protests are okay when WE stage one. You likened a sitting President to Hitler? Horrible, just horrible. Oh, wait, someone on MY side of the aisle wants to do the same thing about the new President. Well, that’s okay, too, I guess. But only when WE say so. This is, after all, the United States of People Who Agree With Me.”

Can’t have it both ways, folks. If your absolutes are so changeable, then we’re entitled to ask…what do you REALLY stand for, other than, “I want everything MY way”? (and I ask that of both sides, btw).

—Ricko

—Ricko[/quote]
Well said Ricko.

did someone mention they wanted to see a chiefs helmet with a yellow stripe?

here ya go (sorry, my skills at this are so bad)

but, as long as im at it…

how fuckin’ great would this be?

[quote comment=”324544″][quote comment=”324539″]Just found out my Monday night softball team is getting new jerseys (well, t-shirts) this year. Same logo, etc., just navy shirts instead of white, with red & white lettering instead red & black, so I’ll maybe pick up an all-navy Braves hat for ’09. Sponsor is Absolute Bail Bonds. Honest. Feels like playing for Buttermaker sometimes.

Anyone else getting (or got) new unis this year?

—Ricko[/quote]

We have a new sponsor..no longer “The Porch”. So no more Pirates 5950’s.

We are now sponsored by the Oak Tree Inn and are getting Tees.

Mums the word on the color, so I have to wait on buying a cap and piped pants/stirrups![/quote]

The O’s? Oh-oh. Don’t be tempted by the backwards apostrophe hat.

Maybe Oregon forest and yellow? No black or tire tracks, though, okay?

There are a couple of Oakland Oaks hats available at Ebbets Field Flannels.

Or a nice dull Ohio State baseball hat? Red with a simple block “O”. Meh.

Hey, speaking of Ohio State, howcum their football team never gets mentioned in the BFBS discussions? Black ain’t an official color of TOSU, and it’s nowhere to be found on their varsity baseball unis, for example.

—Ricko

[quote comment=”324555″][quote comment=”324544″][quote comment=”324539″]Just found out my Monday night softball team is getting new jerseys (well, t-shirts) this year. Same logo, etc., just navy shirts instead of white, with red & white lettering instead red & black, so I’ll maybe pick up an all-navy Braves hat for ’09. Sponsor is Absolute Bail Bonds. Honest. Feels like playing for Buttermaker sometimes.

Anyone else getting (or got) new unis this year?

—Ricko[/quote]

We have a new sponsor..no longer “The Porch”. So no more Pirates 5950’s.

We are now sponsored by the Oak Tree Inn and are getting Tees.

Mums the word on the color, so I have to wait on buying a cap and piped pants/stirrups![/quote]

The O’s? Oh-oh. Don’t be tempted by the backwards apostrophe hat.

Maybe Oregon forest and yellow? No black or tire tracks, though, okay?

There are a couple of Oakland Oaks hats available at Ebbets Field Flannels.

Or a nice dull Ohio State baseball hat? Red with a simple block “O”. Meh.

Hey, speaking of Ohio State, howcum their football team never gets mentioned in the BFBS discussions? Black ain’t an official color of TOSU, and it’s nowhere to be found on their varsity baseball unis, for example.

—Ricko[/quote]

Options all…Depending on the color, I might buy one of those mentioned and DIY the rest of the logo/name!

[quote comment=”324556″]Just today it was announced that the administration is considering fully nationalizing some banks. I’m sorry, but that’s pretty scary to me.[/quote]

Nationalizing has many forms. Canada has nationalized banks in terms of all of them abiding by the same rules and regulations set out, and we haven’t had one close yet despite this terrible banking problem.

De-regulation was/is the problem. The only way to re-regulate is to take them over for a short period of time, institute proper rules, and then turn them over to people who will uphold those rules. Without some sort of starting point, no one will be on the same page.

[quote comment=”324556″][quote comment=”324504″]Don’t listen to these fools, Paul! I love the tea party jokes! Keep ’em coming!

Besides, it’s clear, at least to me, that he doesn’t have a problem with the fact that they’re protesting so much as the fact that (a) they think our current situation is equivalent to the one that incited the original tea party and (b) there were signs like “Hitler=Obama” and this well-educated fellow: link

After all, who could argue that descent is the highest form of patriotic?[/quote]

You know, I’d buy this argument if Paul had been equally vitriolic about the liberal protesters who, for 8 years, compared Bush to Hitler incessantly. But I didn’t hear a peep out of him about them.

It’s total hypocritical bullshit to claim for 8 years that dissent (you meant “dissent” and not “descent”, right?) is patriotic, but then, as soon as your guy is in charge, claim that it’s boorish.

(It’s also hypocritical bullshit to take low blows at entire groups of people on a daily basis and then act annoyed when people are offended and the comments become about politics not uniforms. Guess what? If you don’t want the comments to become politicized, then stop making political jabs in your columns! But if you’re going to keep making the jabs, you’d better expect people to respond in the comments.)

I agree as much as anyone that comparing Bush or Obama to Hitler is ridiculous. But to lump all conservatives into a pile and call them “boors” is equally ridiculous. There are some extremely intelligent and thoughtful conservatives who have some very valid concerns about what Obama is doing. Just today it was announced that the administration is considering fully nationalizing some banks. I’m sorry, but that’s pretty scary to me.[/quote]
This blog has only been around since May 2006.

[quote comment=”324556″][quote comment=”324504″]Don’t listen to these fools, Paul! I love the tea party jokes! Keep ’em coming!

Besides, it’s clear, at least to me, that he doesn’t have a problem with the fact that they’re protesting so much as the fact that (a) they think our current situation is equivalent to the one that incited the original tea party and (b) there were signs like “Hitler=Obama” and this well-educated fellow: link

After all, who could argue that descent is the highest form of patriotic?[/quote]

You know, I’d buy this argument if Paul had been equally vitriolic about the liberal protesters who, for 8 years, compared Bush to Hitler incessantly. But I didn’t hear a peep out of him about them.

It’s total hypocritical bullshit to claim for 8 years that dissent (you meant “dissent” and not “descent”, right?) is patriotic, but then, as soon as your guy is in charge, claim that it’s boorish.

(It’s also hypocritical bullshit to take low blows at entire groups of people on a daily basis and then act annoyed when people are offended and the comments become about politics not uniforms. Guess what? If you don’t want the comments to become politicized, then stop making political jabs in your columns! But if you’re going to keep making the jabs, you’d better expect people to respond in the comments.)

I agree as much as anyone that comparing Bush or Obama to Hitler is ridiculous. But to lump all conservatives into a pile and call them “boors” is equally ridiculous. There are some extremely intelligent and thoughtful conservatives who have some very valid concerns about what Obama is doing. Just today it was announced that the administration is considering fully nationalizing some banks. I’m sorry, but that’s pretty scary to me.[/quote]

Much as I like talking about politics, can we please stop this discussion; we all have differing opinions, we get it, now can we stop?

[quote comment=”324559″][quote comment=”324556″]Just today it was announced that the administration is considering fully nationalizing some banks. I’m sorry, but that’s pretty scary to me.[/quote]

Nationalizing has many forms. Canada has nationalized banks in terms of all of them abiding by the same rules and regulations set out, and we haven’t had one close yet despite this terrible banking problem.

De-regulation was/is the problem. The only way to re-regulate is to take them over for a short period of time, institute proper rules, and then turn them over to people who will uphold those rules. Without some sort of starting point, no one will be on the same page.[/quote]
It depends on what the eventual goal is, and how the gov’t plans on getting there.

As an Econ graduate, I believe it would be in the Nation’s best interest if the gov’t would temporarily take control of the failing banks in order to stabilize them. That said, once stable, they should hand them back over to the private sector with no strings attached so they can be run, but without the influence of the gov’t. Strict nationalization would be dangerous, and an all-around bad idea.

This TARP stuff was a piece of crap to begin with. You’re mortgaging the future of the nation to stabilize something that for all intents and purposes, should be allowed to die.

[quote comment=”324556″]
I agree as much as anyone that comparing Bush or Obama to Hitler is ridiculous. But to lump all conservatives into a pile and call them “boors” is equally ridiculous. There are some extremely intelligent and thoughtful conservatives who have some very valid concerns about what Obama is doing.[/quote]

Not all conservatives. Just the boorish losers who decided to join in “The Official Fox News Channel Protests 2009.”

[quote comment=”324566″][quote comment=”324553″]link?[/quote]

Brings back fond memories from last summer: “Fuck this, I’ll make my own motherfuckin’ stirrups.”[/quote]

The best quote of 2008, perhaps the best quote ever.

[quote comment=\”324558\”][quote comment=\”324552\”]Help! I am looking to purchase the authentic 2009/2010 Spartak Moscow home kit, well the jersey only. They are a Russian side. So far, no luck. Anyone got any suggestions. They are a Nike team, but Nike doesn\’t sell the jersey on their website.[/quote]

The jerseys aren\’t like North American quality, meaning they use sublimation rather than stitching for names and numbers. That being said, finding them in North America is usually an ebay search.

There are websites that offer them, though.This place has them decently priced. This place has a good assortment of KHL jerseys as well, but they don\’t guarantee their shipping.

Caveat emptor is the only advice I can give.[/quote]

Thanks Teebz. I should have been more clear though. I am looking for FC Spartak Moscow (Football/Soccer). Sorry

[quote comment=”324553″]did someone mention they wanted to see a chiefs helmet with a yellow stripe?

link (sorry, my skills at this are so bad)

but, as long as im at it…

link?[/quote]

What would be “great” is if this non-clutch loser depicted in the photo would drive in a run once in a while.

I agree we should avoid the “tea-party protests” here as much as we can, although they do relate to sports in a way. There’s been a lot of talk on the board about “double standards,” about how everyone’s opinions and behaviors have now switched because the party in power has switched; what was acceptable (or unconscionable) three years ago is now the opposite. So let’s get real: these “tea parties,” and American politics in general, is no different from sport.

These people (meaning the highly-visible nutjobs, not everyone who identifies himself as “Republican”/”conservative”/”on the right”) are not serious about tax policy or budgeting; they don’t even know what “socialism” is. Most of them are not even conservatives, in the truest sense of the word. They’re fans, pure and simple, just like sports fans. They root for their team and cast aspersions on their opponents. Tea-partiers ripping on Obama are no different than Red Sox fans hating the Yankees, or Michigan fans hating Ohio State. That’s the mentality.

[quote comment=”324570″][quote comment=”324564″][quote comment=”324562″][quote comment=”324560″][quote comment=”324553″]did someone mention they wanted to see a chiefs helmet with a yellow stripe?

link (sorry, my skills at this are so bad)

but, as long as im at it…

link?[/quote]

Needs stripes or the NY logo.

Better yet, throw Mr. Met on them and they’d be gold, Jerry, gold![/quote]
How ’bout these link?[/quote]

Hmmm, an interesting development here. Since the Mets have never had striped socks in their more than 40 years, are we coming dangerously close to SFSS? Are stripes the new black?

—Ricko[/quote]

Don’t forget, the Mets’ socks were originally supposed to be striped:
link

And, according to TSN their first home unis weren’t pins. They were white with orange piping. :)

We know the Mets went through a few revisions before taking the field, so I was limiting my point to what they’d actually worn. Also because it was part of the same post that thought the Chiefs maybe could use a stripe on their helmet, it seemed like Stripes were the solution to everything.

Just sayin’.

(Now back to scheduled programming, which for me is coming up with a tagline for the Bible station here in town. Honest. Was toying with “We Get It” but that’s already being used.)

—Ricko

[quote comment=”324576″][quote comment=”324570″]Don’t forget, the Mets’ socks were originally supposed to be striped:
link

And, according to TSN their first home unis weren’t pins. They were white with orange piping. :)

We know the Mets went through a few revisions before taking the field, so I was limiting my point to what they’d actually worn.[/quote]

I’d love to see a real mockup of those. Ah, what could have been.

[quote comment=”324570″]Don’t forget, the Mets’ socks were originally supposed to be striped:
link

what’s very instructive in that photo is NOT the b & w rendering of the stripes nor casey nor the primitive logo…

it’s bob moses (or william shea’s) rendering of what was to become shea stadium (or, in that rendering “Flushing Meadow Park Municipal Stadium” — which was originally part of moses’ abortive attempt to keep the dodgers from fleeing west

funny how it took two full years to get the thing built, forcing the mets to play at the polo grounds in 62 & 63 (cuz, back then, they put up stadia in a matter of months, not years)

but i guess we should be talking about unis, so i’ll get off this non-uni tangent

[quote comment=”324576″]
Now back to scheduled programming, which for me is coming up with a tagline for the Bible station here in town.[/quote]
How about “HERE is your Messiah now!” (Works best when delivered via an Edward G. Robinson impression.)

Regarding those link mismatched uni numbers… the only other example of differently-sized numbers I can recall are link link the St. Louis Blues wore for a time… link were pretty lame, as well.

[quote comment=”324585″]Regarding those link mismatched uni numbers… the only other example of differently-sized numbers I can recall are link link the St. Louis Blues wore for a time… link were pretty lame, as well.[/quote]

C’mon, Goaler… Isles’ Fishermen were mismatched horribly too. ;o)

Wait, I may be the only person who cares about the Fisherman. :o( LOL

[quote comment=”324587″][quote comment=”324585″]Regarding those link mismatched uni numbers… the only other example of differently-sized numbers I can recall are link link the St. Louis Blues wore for a time… link were pretty lame, as well.[/quote]

C’mon, Goaler… Isles’ Fishermen were mismatched horribly too. ;o)

Wait, I may be the only person who cares about the Fisherman. :o( LOL[/quote]

beat me to it teebz

[quote comment=”324552″]Help! I am looking to purchase the authentic 2009/2010 Spartak Moscow home kit, well the jersey only. They are a Russian side. So far, no luck. Anyone got any suggestions. They are a Nike team, but Nike doesn’t sell the jersey on their website.[/quote]

Nathan,

They are hard to find in America. Their website translates to English link but their shop “Red and White Sport” reverts back to Russian when you hit the link. I would call them directly (the shop) and hope I could find somone who speaks english to see if they would sell you a jersey over the phone. Maybe not, but it is worth a shot. The website says the shop number is “011-7-499-252-05-68” or you can try to use the e-mail option on the site.

[quote comment=”324593″][quote comment=”324578″][quote comment=”324576″][quote comment=”324570″]Don’t forget, the Mets’ socks were originally supposed to be striped:
link

And, according to TSN their first home unis weren’t pins. They were white with orange piping. :)

We know the Mets went through a few revisions before taking the field, so I was limiting my point to what they’d actually worn.[/quote]

I’d love to see a real mockup of those. Ah, what could have been.[/quote]

link

link

Or look at, say, 1960 Indians Topps cards and kinda imagine royal and orange instead of navy and red.

[quote comment=”324595″][quote comment=”324593″][quote comment=”324578″][quote comment=”324576″][quote comment=”324570″]Don’t forget, the Mets’ socks were originally supposed to be striped:
link

And, according to TSN their first home unis weren’t pins. They were white with orange piping. :)

We know the Mets went through a few revisions before taking the field, so I was limiting my point to what they’d actually worn.[/quote]

I’d love to see a real mockup of those. Ah, what could have been.[/quote]

link

link
20Styles/category/Baseball%20slash_%20Softball/browse/1/MenuGroup/Home/desc/Three%20Stripes%20with%20Featheredge.htm[/quote]

Or look at, say, 1960 Indians Topps cards and kinda imagine royal and orange instead of navy and red.[/quote]

link

I still think Casey is holding up a picture of David Wright…

[quote comment=”324559″][quote comment=”324556″]Just today it was announced that the administration is considering fully nationalizing some banks. I’m sorry, but that’s pretty scary to me.[/quote]

Nationalizing has many forms. Canada has nationalized banks in terms of all of them abiding by the same rules and regulations set out, and we haven’t had one close yet despite this terrible banking problem.

De-regulation was/is the problem. The only way to re-regulate is to take them over for a short period of time, institute proper rules, and then turn them over to people who will uphold those rules. Without some sort of starting point, no one will be on the same page.[/quote]

Actually, no, deregulation was NOT the problem. Bush was not the problem. Corporate greed was not the problem.

The problem was legislation passed by liberal Democrats in the early part of this decade which FORCED banks to make risky loans to people with poor credit in the name of allowing more minorities to buy houses. When the legislation was passed, the banks protested and said that if they were forced to make such risky loans they would be in danger of failing.

But did anyone listen? Nope. Now the banks are being blamed by the government for their greed and speculation when it was actually the government who forced them to do the things that caused their failure.

Thus, the solution to this problem isn’t for the government to become even more involved in the banks. The solution is for the government to leave the banks alone and let them give loans to the people that actually qualify for loans.

RE: Hospital Gowns
Richard Nixon used to when in hospitals wear his gown backwards and let ol’ tricky dick get some fresh air, to the surprise of the nurses.

[quote comment=”324602″]Phil–

Interesting post yesterday on the Mets’ unis. I don’t mind the black trim, but I don’t like the black jerseys or caps. However, I do wish they would bring back the 1980s alternate blue jersey (which they never wore at home for some reason) from 1982-85. They also need to ditch the all-whites in favor of just the pinstripes. (Makes no sense to me to have two white uniforms, even if one is pinstriped. The Pirates didn’t keep their pinstripes in 1980 afer they went to their all-white uniform.) If they did these things, and kept black as a trim color (even wearing the two-tone hate or black sleeves or socks), those would be good changes.[/quote]
And now they’re primarily without pinstripes, except for a home alternate they have. Go figure.

[quote comment=”324607″]
man do i wish i could play softball though. i have a bum shoulder from a hockey injury and cant throw a ball without it popping out![/quote]

Please don’t say you’re doing black jerseys, Ry. LOL

Actually, I am trying to convince my hockey team to link. I love the look of those jerseys.

[quote comment=”324609″][quote comment=”324604″][quote comment=”324578″][quote comment=”324576″]according to TSN their first home unis weren’t pins. They were white with orange piping. :)
[/quote]

I’d love to see a real mockup of those. Ah, what could have been.[/quote]

link?

or would the sleeves and socks been orange too (yeesh)

or was ricko just having a little fun[/quote]

I think the first thing I ever sent Paul after I finally bought a scanner was a page of detailed written descriptions of every team’s uni (home and road) from TSN’s 1962 Baseball Preview. Therein it describes the Mets’ home unis as white with royal blue script “Mets” (no mention of an orange edge) and orange piping. Thereafter it does, however, give an incredibly detailed description of the sleeve patch with NY skyline and all. Of course, when the season started they were sporting royal pins.

—Ricko[/quote]

Here you go. Found in the first Ricko Files, from way back whenever.
link

—Ricko

[quote comment=”324613″][quote comment=”324609″][quote comment=”324604″][quote comment=”324578″][quote comment=”324576″]according to TSN their first home unis weren’t pins. They were white with orange piping. :)
[/quote]

I’d love to see a real mockup of those. Ah, what could have been.[/quote]

link?

or would the sleeves and socks been orange too (yeesh)

or was ricko just having a little fun[/quote]

I think the first thing I ever sent Paul after I finally bought a scanner was a page of detailed written descriptions of every team’s uni (home and road) from TSN’s 1962 Baseball Preview. Therein it describes the Mets’ home unis as white with royal blue script “Mets” (no mention of an orange edge) and orange piping. Thereafter it does, however, give an incredibly detailed description of the sleeve patch with NY skyline and all. Of course, when the season started they were sporting royal pins.

—Ricko[/quote]

Here you go. Found in the first Ricko Files, from way back whenever.
link

—Ricko[/quote]

Also says roads were gray with “orange trim”.

what’s the point of just issuing a press release? such a tease…

link

[quote comment=”324591″]I have a random question that someone here may be able to answer. Last year, I bought an authentic Carlos Gomez Twins jersey – the standard Twins’ home white. I noticed that the pinstripes are sort of a royal blue, rather than navy. It is obvious when comparing the color of the stripes to the navy trim around the numbers and lettering.

My question is: Is this really how the Twins jerseys are? Or did the manufacturer screw up and apply Twins graphics to a Mets base or something?[/quote]

I recall that the pin stripes were a lighter blue up close than i expected, but definately not royal blue…Does anyone have a better answer to this?

Ha, ha, LOL at all the chuckleheads who keep trying to get their points across regarding tea parties, banks, fuzzy Bush, liberals, etc.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming about SPORTS AESTHETICS!!

So, I’m intrigued that Purdue baseball wears Majestic, even though the school has a Nike agreement.

Check out their current home unis on this header — a nod to the 70s Braves.
link

In trying to come up with better images, I ran across these old photos of interest.

STRIPED socks:
link

QUILTED pants:
link

[quote comment=”324610″][quote comment=”324607″]
man do i wish i could play softball though. i have a bum shoulder from a hockey injury and cant throw a ball without it popping out![/quote]

Please don’t say you’re doing black jerseys, Ry. LOL

Actually, I am trying to convince my hockey team to link. I love the look of those jerseys.[/quote]

ha! there will be a little bit of black in the logo and numbers… but only to match our pants (breezers (i hate that term. lol)), skates, and gloves.

wow! that jersey you posted is nice!!!

Black & Teal gave a sneak peak at the Jags new unis.

link

hmmm…what if the mets had gone with orange sleeves & stirrups back in 1962 (and no pins)?

[quote comment=”324618″]“What’s the point of just issuing a press release?”[/quote]
Especially with the Lions’ site down as of 2:35 EDT…

[quote comment=”324622″]Ha, ha, LOL at all the chuckleheads who keep trying to get their points across regarding tea parties, banks, fuzzy Bush, liberals, etc.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming about SPORTS AESTHETICS!!

So, I’m intrigued that Purdue baseball wears Majestic, even though the school has a Nike agreement.

Check out their current home unis on this header — a nod to the 70s Braves.
link

In trying to come up with better images, I ran across these old photos of interest.

STRIPED socks:
link

QUILTED pants:
link

Vandy used to have a uni that was a fantastic homage to the Cardinals of the 1940s. Here’s David Price wearing them:

link

[quote comment=”324583″]“How about ‘HERE is your Messiah now!’ (Works best when delivered via an Edward G. Robinson impression.)”[/quote]

A +INFINITY for the hidden Billy Crystal reference. You look mahvelous!

And the new logo’s name: Owen Sixteen.

[quote comment=”324639″]”…but even owner William Clay Ford Sr. agreed last fall it was time to freshen-up the Lions’ appearance.” [/quote]

Uhm, isn’t that what they did a few years back with the black trim? Wasn’t that done to “freshen up” the Lions’ appearance?

You know, I’m really beginning to wonder whether William Clay Ford Sr. even watches Lions’ games anymore.

The Lions officially unveiled their logo.
Here’s the helmet
link
And the new jerseys
link

when do the new Jags jerseys come out? Draft day?

[quote comment=”324644″]The Lions officially unveiled their logo.
Here’s the helmet
link
And the new jerseys
link
I fail to see how this will help their increase sales of their link

[quote comment=”324647″]Oh, yeah…
link
…major change. Everybody in the division pretty much has the snot intimidated out of them upon seeing this photo, I’ll bet.

—Ricko[/quote]

At least they didn’t go the arena league route like the Vikes and Cards with the piping and panels ridiculosity…

-Packer Fan

[quote comment=”324644″]The Lions officially unveiled their logo.
Here’s the helmet
link
And the new jerseys
link

ouch! black mask!

all in all though, i really don’t mind the lion’s new helmet. looks pretty sharp, and could be WAY worse!

the jerseys on the other hand… yuk! stick with the block numbering and ditch the black! lol.

you think if the lions went with a navy blue instead of black as an accent color that it would look better? or any blue a couple shades darker than their uniform/lion blue (not sure the name)??? might look alright

“F” those stupid numbers though! lol

[quote comment=”324653″][quote comment=”324644″]The Lions officially unveiled their logo.
Here’s the helmet
link
And the new jerseys
link

ouch! black mask!

all in all though, i really don’t mind the lion’s new helmet. looks pretty sharp, and could be WAY worse!

the jerseys on the other hand… yuk! stick with the block numbering and ditch the black! lol.

you think if the lions went with a navy blue instead of black as an accent color that it would look better? or any blue a couple shades darker than their uniform/lion blue (not sure the name)??? might look alright

“F” those stupid numbers though! lol[/quote]

Honolulu Blue

[quote comment=”324655″][quote comment=”324653″][quote comment=”324644″]The Lions officially unveiled their logo.
Here’s the helmet
link
And the new jerseys
link

ouch! black mask!

all in all though, i really don’t mind the lion’s new helmet. looks pretty sharp, and could be WAY worse!

the jerseys on the other hand… yuk! stick with the block numbering and ditch the black! lol.

you think if the lions went with a navy blue instead of black as an accent color that it would look better? or any blue a couple shades darker than their uniform/lion blue (not sure the name)??? might look alright

“F” those stupid numbers though! lol[/quote]

Honolulu Blue[/quote]
More like ‘Carolina blue’

I like how they added black to their color schemes as if they thought people would confuse the Lions for a 2nd-rate ACC program…

Paul,

Looking at the photos on the Candela Structures webpage I was struck by the familiar NYC parks flagpole w/ yardarm in the 1964 photo. It looks like there are two American flags on it (not to mention one empty space) where typically there is an American, NYC, and Parks flag. Or is it a Coast Guard flag? Hmmm.

Not to be Captain Obvious here, but how is what they switched to that different from what they had before?

If their pre-Millen unis were 1, then the Millen changes were 1(a) and this is 1(b). Or maybe even 1(a)(1).

Not that they were any good, but the Vikings’ and Cardinals’ and Falcons’ switches were true changes. I guess Detroit’s brass weren’t kidding when they called this a “freshening up” of their uniforms.

look teebz… the uniwatch “political wing” is a MUCH more angry group then the “hockey wing”! LOL!!!

[quote comment=”324620″][quote comment=”324591″]I have a random question that someone here may be able to answer. Last year, I bought an authentic Carlos Gomez Twins jersey – the standard Twins’ home white. I noticed that the pinstripes are sort of a royal blue, rather than navy. It is obvious when comparing the color of the stripes to the navy trim around the numbers and lettering.

My question is: Is this really how the Twins jerseys are? Or did the manufacturer screw up and apply Twins graphics to a Mets base or something?[/quote]

I recall that the pin stripes were a lighter blue up close than i expected, but definately not royal blue…Does anyone have a better answer to this?[/quote]

Yeah, royal probably isn’t the right description. Darker than that, but definitely lighter than the trim on the numbers and lettering. I should have taken a picture. Not that I’d be able to figure out how to post it here.

Pathetic

link

i meant this.

[quote comment=”324673″]has anyone seen this before?[/quote]
[quote comment=”324674″]http://www.ssur.org/research/CK_NFLUniforms/images/stlstallions.jpg

i meant this.[/quote]
[quote comment=”324675″]the NFL proposed expansion St. Louis Stallions[/quote]
All things considered, they’re a better uni-set than most of the new designs nowadays…

It’s gone. But I have a screen capture.

Good debate going on 2 Live Stews regarding “CD” pins. Doug is like “Chuck Daly isn’t dead yet” while Ryan is like “it’s OK, because it’s pretty bad and he’ll probably die so let Daly see the appreciation.”

I’m going to have side with Doug, and not just because he’s got the better first name, I think it’s kind of odd.

Yes it’s pancreatic cancer which is a BITCH, but who is to say he wouldn’t beat.

Even if he won’t, I still think it’s odd to honor someone that isn’t dead yet.

I mean, why not just put a black armband on every team’s jersey in every sport all the time. SOMEONE will die SOMETIME right? Where do you draw the line?

Personally, I put this pre-death pin in the same light as guys that right player numbers on their hats for guys that are hurt.

[quote comment=\”324683\”]new uniforms…..check….actually buckling the belt so that it looks good the first time you wear it in front of the media…not so fast Sims…

link

Since he bears more than passing resemblance to adam “pacman” jones in that picture..

Paul, please man, enough with the tea party stuff. We get it, you’re a liberal.

post number 200 sure to axed soon by the site nazi! And so will this one! lol

“Reminds me of a picture of OJ Simpson in his heyday wearing #36 for the Bills after his #32 was stolen from the locker room.”

Not true. That’s a uni-related old wives’ tale that pops up every so often. Simpson first worse #36 because another member of the Bills—Bob Cappadonna, I believe it was—already had worn #32 for a season or two. After Cappadonna was cut during training camp, Simpson took #32.

—Ricko

Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet but checking out the Kansas City Chiefs Website and noticed a little something it looks like the chiefs are changing the lettering on the nameplates on the back of the jerseys.

Here is the new

link

and the old

link

If I’m looking at this right, the new lettering is the same as the patriots lettering…hmmmmm

[quote comment=”324691″]”Reminds me of a picture of OJ Simpson in his heyday wearing #36 for the Bills after his #32 was stolen from the locker room.”

Not true. That’s a uni-related old wives’ tale that pops up every so often. Simpson first worse #36 because another member of the Bills—Bob Cappadonna, I believe it was—already had worn #32 for a season or two. After Cappadonna was cut during training camp, Simpson took #32.

—Ricko[/quote]

Ricko,

I trust your explanation. I originally got that info from a cheap paperback book that I bought on OJ and other RB’s right after (I believe) he led the league in rushing in 1973, but before the 2000+ yard season. They had a #36 picture with the “stolen jersey” caption in the book.

Thanks for the correct info, as I stay up at night contemplating how the future and fate of the world would have been altered had OJ kept #36 and had Bears QB Bobby Douglass kept the #14 of his rookie year.

Now that I have the correct info, I will be better able to channel and direct my personal “chi” to a more centered place.

– Nick

[quote comment=”324695″][quote comment=”324694″][quote comment=”324693″]Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet but checking out the Kansas City Chiefs Website and noticed a little something it looks like the chiefs are changing the lettering on the nameplates on the back of the jerseys.

Here is the new

link

and the old

link

If I’m looking at this right, the new lettering is the same as the patriots lettering…hmmmmm[/quote]
I’m going to call “false alarm.” It’s easier to keep the Patriots font for Photoshop purposes if you need a picture to post next to “Matt Cassel #7 KC Chiefs jersey” for sale on the web or at the team store.[/quote]

Agreed. Web shop pics are never a good source to go by for small details like NOBs (or even for big details in some cases).[/quote]

I seriously doubt that the Chiefs are changing their nameplate font, as the ownership is VERY involved and committed to tradition and continuity with the entire Chiefs uni.

My bet would be that it was somehow EASIER to quickly print up and/or display and sell Cassel Chiefs jerseys with the “Patriot” font, and they quickly printed/displayed them ….

Speaking of NOB’s, and recent discussions of the original Oakland Raiders’ unis of the Black Helmet/Gold trim “Bears” template unis of 1960-1962, the website HELMET HUT has a discussion of the 1960-1962 Raiders unis and state that they were the only AFL team, and probably the only pro football team EVER, to have a FULL NAME ON BACK tradition for their unis for that era.

(See “Helmet News” section of the website,
March, 2009 re: Clem Daniels)

Anybody know about this?

[quote comment=”324699″][quote comment=”324695″][quote comment=”324694″][quote comment=”324693″]Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet but checking out the Kansas City Chiefs Website and noticed a little something it looks like the chiefs are changing the lettering on the nameplates on the back of the jerseys.

Here is the new

link

and the old

link

If I’m looking at this right, the new lettering is the same as the patriots lettering…hmmmmm[/quote]
I’m going to call “false alarm.” It’s easier to keep the Patriots font for Photoshop purposes if you need a picture to post next to “Matt Cassel #7 KC Chiefs jersey” for sale on the web or at the team store.[/quote]

Agreed. Web shop pics are never a good source to go by for small details like NOBs (or even for big details in some cases).[/quote]

I seriously doubt that the Chiefs are changing their nameplate font, as the ownership is VERY involved and committed to tradition and continuity with the entire Chiefs uni.

My bet would be that it was somehow EASIER to quickly print up and/or display and sell Cassel Chiefs jerseys with the “Patriot” font, and they quickly printed/displayed them ….

Speaking of NOB’s, and recent discussions of the original Oakland Raiders’ unis of the Black Helmet/Gold trim “Bears” template unis of 1960-1962, the website HELMET HUT has a discussion of the 1960-1962 Raiders unis and state that they were the only AFL team, and probably the only pro football team EVER, to have a FULL NAME ON BACK tradition for their unis for that era.

(See “Helmet News” section of the website,
March, 2009 re: Clem Daniels)

Anybody know about this?[/quote]

Check out the DB (#22, Wayne Crow) to the right.
link

—Ricko

And, for the record, the Raiders had the Bears style helmets only in ’60 and ’61. For ’62 (and thereafter) they wore more typical headgear.

—Ricko

Pardon the Interruption on ESPN talked about the “NATINALS” jersey in the showdown

[quote comment=”324644″]The Lions officially unveiled their logo.
Here’s the helmet
link
And the new jerseys
link

Meh. It’s fine, except for the numerals.

[quote comment=”324705″]Pardon the Interruption on ESPN talked about the “NATINALS” jersey in the showdown[/quote]

Tony said somebody “gots to be fired” for the mistake.

What I would really love to know, and we rarely get to hear about, are how the different teams chose their nicknames, unis and colors.

I understand how the older teams used geography, ownership business connections, and area tradition to pick names and unis. See the Packers or the Colts or the Cardinals or the NY Giants. And we also know that by the late 1980s-on every new team nickname and colors were market-tested, then sanded-down and then slammed down our throats by the marketing boys and logo designers.

(What do we hate more, the advent of pullover polyester in baseball unis, or that 18 of the last 19 franchises in almost every sport adopting some variation of the sucky Teal/Black/Silver/Purple lemming uni?)

It’s the 1950’s – 1980’s teams’ unis and nicknames that to me were the “open territory” of adoption of tradition. Those are the stories I’d love to hear.

I am sure there are stories for every team, and palace intrigue within the ownership and the families, wives, girlfriends, and the staff – some of it true, some of it fable. Rarely do we see that part of the story, and those would be a set of stories really worth hearing.

[quote comment=”324613″][quote comment=”324609″][quote comment=”324604″][quote comment=”324578″][quote comment=”324576″]according to TSN their first home unis weren’t pins. They were white with orange piping. :)
[/quote]

I’d love to see a real mockup of those. Ah, what could have been.[/quote]

link?

or would the sleeves and socks been orange too (yeesh)

or was ricko just having a little fun[/quote]

I think the first thing I ever sent Paul after I finally bought a scanner was a page of detailed written descriptions of every team’s uni (home and road) from TSN’s 1962 Baseball Preview. Therein it describes the Mets’ home unis as white with royal blue script “Mets” (no mention of an orange edge) and orange piping. Thereafter it does, however, give an incredibly detailed description of the sleeve patch with NY skyline and all. Of course, when the season started they were sporting royal pins.

—Ricko[/quote]

Here you go. Found in the first Ricko Files, from way back whenever.
link

—Ricko[/quote]

And that is interesting. I don’t see much about the Colt 45’s before they became the Astros.

Good read overall.

[quote comment=”324715″]What I would really love to know, and we rarely get to hear about, are how the different teams chose their nicknames, unis and colors.

I understand how the older teams used geography, ownership business connections, and area tradition to pick names and unis. See the Packers or the Colts or the Cardinals or the NY Giants. And we also know that by the late 1980s-on every new team nickname and colors were market-tested, then sanded-down and then slammed down our throats by the marketing boys and logo designers.

(What do we hate more, the advent of pullover polyester in baseball unis, or that 18 of the last 19 franchises in almost every sport adopting some variation of the sucky Teal/Black/Silver/Purple lemming uni?)

It’s the 1950’s – 1980’s teams’ unis and nicknames that to me were the “open territory” of adoption of tradition. Those are the stories I’d love to hear.

I am sure there are stories for every team, and palace intrigue within the ownership and the families, wives, girlfriends, and the staff – some of it true, some of it fable. Rarely do we see that part of the story, and those would be a set of stories really worth hearing.[/quote]

Well, the Lions have been “Honolulu Blue” at least back to the early ’50s, if not not a little longer. I read somewhere that it had to do with Ford having a home in Hawaii. Or something like that.

—Ricko

The Lions should go back and use these helmets and I also prefer the uniforms

link

link

and thanks for AL link Ricko

I agree with Nick. It would be nice to know the reasons why teams chose certain colors in the early years or some of the changes later.

A fellow helmet club member said in an email abot a rumor of the Saints wanting to change colors when Benson bought the team. The rumor was his late wife wanted her favorite color combo red white and blue. The NFL said no. I had not heard that rumor before.

link

Somebody else posted this link above. It has about the Lions uniform history. I checked TimmyB’s site quickly.

How about the explanation of the Lions in 1948.

1934-1947: The first uniform donned by the Detroit Lions included a blue jersey with gleaming silver numerals, silver pants and a silver helmet. The shoes were black. The shade of blue used for the jersey became known as ‘Honolulu’ blue.
1948: Alvin ‘Bo’ McMillin joined the Lions after having success as a college coach at Indiana University. Soon after his arrival, McMillin changed the colors of the Lions’ uniforms with the new colors resembling those of his Hoosier teams. The organization retained Honolulu blue and silver as their official colors. The jersey was scarlet with white numbers and the pants were white with a thin black stripe between two thin scarlet stripes. The helmets were black. All the players wore leather helmets that season due to the league’s ban on plastic helmets. The team had a second, all-black uniform, which would be worn only for certain important games that McMillin particularly wished to win. The jersey was black with white numbers and the pants were black with a thin scarlet stripe between two thin white stripes. The two uniform sets ended up being worn in four different combinations (scarlet/white; black/black; scarlet/black; black/white).

[quote comment=”324724″][quote comment=”324722″]”BFBS?” What have I missed?[/quote]

BFBS=beardface’s bullshit[/quote]

yowsa.

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What I would really love to know, and we rarely get to hear about, are how the different teams chose their nicknames, unis and colors.

Most of that stuff would be on Wikipedia or the team site, no?

Problem is, you have lots of relocated-but-kept-the-surname teams, most notably the Utah (formerly New Orleans) Jazz…the most oddball ‘kept’ name IMO in sports today.

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They fear for their tax rates and racial caste status. I feared for my safety.

I fear Sarah Palin in 2012. :)

[quote comment=”324731″]Problem is, you have lots of relocated-but-kept-the-surname teams, most notably the Utah (formerly New Orleans) Jazz…the most oddball ‘kept’ name IMO in sports today.[/quote]
Los Angeles Lakers is a close second.

Arizona Cardinals isn’t much better. If they had stayed in St. Louis, it might have been the best “kept” name ever.

That title probably goes to the Detroit Pistons.

Whoops, flip the last two. Not like anyone reads or comments after 7 pm anyway. LOL

[quote comment=”324560″][quote comment=”324553″]did someone mention they wanted to see a chiefs helmet with a yellow stripe?

link (sorry, my skills at this are so bad)

but, as long as im at it…

link?[/quote]

Needs stripes or the NY logo.

Better yet, throw Mr. Met on them and they’d be gold, Jerry, gold![/quote]

GREAT Seinfeld reference.
Are those new Lions unis–still have the black? Or is it navy blue? I still hate the sleeve stripes.

[quote comment=”324738″][quote comment=”324724″][quote comment=”324722″]”BFBS?” What have I missed?[/quote]

BFBS=beardface’s bullshit[/quote]
Hey!

Well… at least its named after me, so I got that goin for me… which is nice[/quote]

Can’t disagree how nice it is to be mentioned on UniWatch. Good or bad…at least its publicity!

[quote comment=”324739″][quote comment=”324738″][quote comment=”324724″][quote comment=”324722″]”BFBS?” What have I missed?[/quote]

BFBS=beardface’s bullshit[/quote]
Hey!

Well… at least its named after me, so I got that goin for me… which is nice[/quote]

Can’t disagree how nice it is to be mentioned on UniWatch. Good or bad…at least its publicity![/quote]
I’m like Sean Avery… might be an annoying little bitch, but you’ll remember me after its all done…

haha!

[quote comment=”324733″][quote comment=”324731″]Problem is, you have lots of relocated-but-kept-the-surname teams, most notably the Utah (formerly New Orleans) Jazz…the most oddball ‘kept’ name IMO in sports today.[/quote]
Los Angeles Lakers is a close second.

Arizona Cardinals isn’t much better. If they had stayed in St. Louis, it might have been the best “kept” name ever.

That title probably goes to the Detroit Pistons.[/quote]

To quote from Baseketball:

Soon it was commonplace for entire teams to change cities in search of greater profits. The Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. The Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil. The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don’t allow music.

(you know its a slow day when you’re quoting Baseketball)

[quote comment=”324735″]Whoops, flip the last two. Not like anyone reads or comments after 7 pm anyway. LOL[/quote]

Ya, why is that?

[quote comment=”324726″]I agree with Nick. It would be nice to know the reasons why teams chose certain colors in the early years or some of the changes later.

A fellow helmet club member said in an email abot a rumor of the Saints wanting to change colors when Benson bought the team. The rumor was his late wife wanted her favorite color combo red white and blue. The NFL said no. I had not heard that rumor before.[/quote]

[quote comment=”324728″]http://www.detroitlions.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=483672

Somebody else posted this link above. It has about the Lions uniform history. I checked TimmyB’s site quickly.

How about the explanation of the Lions in 1948.

1934-1947: The first uniform donned by the Detroit Lions included a blue jersey with gleaming silver numerals, silver pants and a silver helmet. The shoes were black. The shade of blue used for the jersey became known as ‘Honolulu’ blue.
1948: Alvin ‘Bo’ McMillin joined the Lions after having success as a college coach at Indiana University. Soon after his arrival, McMillin changed the colors of the Lions’ uniforms with the new colors resembling those of his Hoosier teams. The organization retained Honolulu blue and silver as their official colors. The jersey was scarlet with white numbers and the pants were white with a thin black stripe between two thin scarlet stripes. The helmets were black. All the players wore leather helmets that season due to the league’s ban on plastic helmets. The team had a second, all-black uniform, which would be worn only for certain important games that McMillin particularly wished to win. The jersey was black with white numbers and the pants were black with a thin scarlet stripe between two thin white stripes. The two uniform sets ended up being worn in four different combinations (scarlet/white; black/black; scarlet/black; black/white).[/quote]

I read an Indiana Hoosiers Uni History where the team once had a coach that outfitted the Hoosiers in “Light Blue” jerseys for certain games. I wonder if that Hoosier coach was McMillan? He would then have the distinction of having outfitted both teams in the other teams’ jerseys – a bit odd, dont’cha say …..

As for the NFL stopping the Saints relative to uniforms, in 1969 the Saints owner John Mecom bought new Black helmets for the Saints, and the Saints did a big marketing campaign about the Black helmets with posters and pennants and free stickers for the cars and the kids and everything – the City of N.O. was flooded with images of the new Black Saints helmet. The Saints practiced and wore the Black helmets for their 1969 preseason games.

HOWEVER, the Saints ownership forgot to notify the NFL of the change, and the NFL ordered to Saints to go back to their Gold Helmets for the regular season, and they did.

Apparently, the NFL rules forced teams making such changes to simply notify he league at least one year prior to doing so. The Saints didn’t pursue the Black helmets the following season, and I for one am glad they did not.

I own two remakes of that Black Saints helmet, and while they look good on a shelf, they are inferior to the Gold helmet when worn on the field. They just do not look as good. Further, the lighting in the Superdome is horrible for dark helmets.

Tulane plays in the Superdome and switched from White to Dark Green helmets in maybe 1998, and it simply does not look as good.