I never thought we’d see this happen, but the DIY bug has spread to the world of Formula 1 fans, or at least to reader Mark Clemence. He was recently bidding in two eBay auctions — one for a genuine Texaco Marlboro McLaren pit crew shirt (like the ones being worn here) and another for a set of genuine Texaco Marlboro patches. When he got outbid on both auctions, he decided to take matters into his own hands. I’ll let him pick up the story from there:
The auction postings featured excellent pictures of the shirt (front and back), so I bought a basic white, short-sleeve shirt and took it to a company that embroidered the Marlboro Team Texaco logo on the back. As you can see, they did an excellent job.
The biggest challenge was the Marlboro/Texaco patch design for the sleeves. It’s a very specialized patch, as it contains both the Marlboro and Texaco logos. So I contacted a dealer in Thailand who sells patches on eBay. I sent them a photo of the patch and they agreed to make me six patches for $30.
The Marlboro, Texaco, and Goodyear chest patches were easier — I was able to find those on eBay. Once I had those, I took everything to my tailor, who supplied the red and black striping. She then sewed the striping and patches onto the shirt.
My shirt is an almost exact copy of the original. One difference is that my Texaco patch includes a small “T”/star logo; the original Texaco patch did not have this.
Total cost of the shirt was just over $100. When I dropped out of the bidding for the original shirt, the high bid was $440, and the original Texaco Marlboro patches ended up going for $85, so I’d say I came out way ahead.
I realize some of you probably think a project that involved a professional tailor and professionally made patches shouldn’t count as “DIY.” Personally, though, I think it’s fine — resourceful is as resourceful does. In any case, whether you want to call this DIY, or a personal replica, or whatever, it’s still a cool project. Nicely done.
Fish Story: Yesterday I linked to this photo, which appears to show a prototype aqua Dolphins helmet in the background. That prompted the following from reader Randy Cremer:
That was in fact a prototype. I covered the Dolphins as a reporter from 1989 thru the 1994 season, and at some point that was in the equipment cage at the Dolphins’ headquarters after they moved from St. Thomas up to the new digs in Davie. I can’t tell you the exact year; might have been 1993.
I believe (about 90% certainty) that it was proposed when the idea of alternate helmets was pitched to NFL teams. The aqua was to be the Dolphins’ alternate. A couple years later, I was talking with an equipment manager for the University of Central Florida football team, and this subject came up.
Riddell had apparently pitched the idea of the alternate helmets with each basically being a photo negative of the primary helmet. So the Dolphins’ ones would be white and aqua…. Dallas would be silver and blue… the Packers yellow and green.
But the idea fell flat with coaches who felt it would have a negative impact (in part because they thought a QB who was used to looking for white-helmeted receivers would have a hard time adjusting during the aqua-helmeted week).
However, this was before the NFL recognized the merchandising potential of having multiple versions of every team’s uniforms and equipment to sell. If Riddell had pitched the idea 10-12 years later, you might be seeing the Dolphins take the field wearing all aqua head-to-toe.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Beginning tonight, the Phillies will wear an “HK” memorial patch for Harry Kalas. It will be worn on the front-left area of the jersey, near the heart. ”¦ The Lions will unveil their new uniforms on Monday, but the whole world already knows what they’ll look like. ”¦ There’s some chatter about the 49ers possibly having a new secondary logo, but I’m pretty sure it’s all just overheated gossip and rumor. ”¦ Best h.s. basketball uni ever? Maybe not, but it’s up there (big thanks to Tim Snyder, whose grandfather is in the back row, second from left, with his horse facing the opposite direction from all the other horses). ”¦ Don’t forget, Teebz is running his annual hockey playoff pool. ”¦ Brian Willette attended the Rays’ home opener and took the occasion to visit the Ted Williams Museum and Hitters Hall of Fame within Tropicana Field. The museum includes some materials relating to former softball great Eddie Feigner. Love the stripes here and here. ”¦ Apparently the sleeve patch on the Red Sox’s new road jersey is being positioned inconsistently (with thanks to Jere Smith). ”¦ Jon Conner created a nice tribute to Harry the K. ”¦ Everyone knows about the black cat at Shea Stadium that jinxed the Cubs in 1969. But that wasn’t the only cat on the field at Shea over the years. That shot’s from 1976 (big thanks to Paul Wiederecht, who says he “swiped [the photo] from the press level darkroom” back in the day). ”¦ Stirrups vs. stirrups! That’s Reed Johnson batting against Ubaldo Jimenez on Monday. ”¦ Tyler Kepner points out something very odd about the pregame festivities at the Trop on Monday: The Rays raised their A.L. championship banner — nothing unusual there — and also raised a division championship banner (see top-left of that photo). “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” ”¦ Potential uni number issue at South Carolina, as explained by Scott Moody: “Rising RS sophomore QB Stephen Garcia wears #5 and has done so his entire USC career (most of which as been under suspension). This year, incoming freshman defensive back Stephon Gilmore — one of USC’s prized recruits in this year’s class — is currently also wearing #5. Normally, not a problem, but Stephon could play both sides and you can’t have two players with the same number on the field at the same time. If I had to guess, we will probably see Gilmore in a different number if things keep progressing.” ”¦ Those padded compression shorts worn by many NBAers are getting some attention (thanks, Vince). ”¦ Mike Cesarano has found what may be the best eBay item of all time. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a vintage Expos Jell-O mold! ”¦ Jeremy Brahm reports that Koji Uehara of the Orioles had a personal logo — an outline of himself pitching — on the webbing of his glove the past few years in Japan. And he’s still got it this year. ”¦ Here’s something I’ve never seen before: Burger Chef basell cards, with the cap logos airbrushed out. Read all about them here. ”¦ Some amazing old Canadian basketball uniforms here, here, and here (with thanks to Paul Deaver). ”¦ Matt Powers wrote up a report of last night’s No Mas event with David Wright and posted it as a comment shortly after midnight. In case you missed it, look here. ”¦ Some Titans/Oilers throwback info here (with thanks to Tony Meyer). ”¦ Check out this old Little League photo. Those baserunning helmets (or at least that’s what we used them for in my Little League) just never looked good. And someone get that kid some white sannies (with thanks to Marcky Marc). ”¦ Also from Marc: some truly astonishing Alaska baseball photos from 1963, including one of history’s greatest chain-stitching jobs. Not to be missed. Check out the full set here. … Given the dual significance of April 15th, shouldn’t the IRS’s Form 1040 be renamed the Form 42?
Does anyone know why Jordan wore Wilson while playing baseball? Had Nike not started a baseball line yet?
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Dunno, I might have raised a AL East Division banner too, just to remind the Red Sox and Yankees who won the division as opposed to making the WS as a wild card.
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Don’t think Nike branded gloves, bats, batting gloves, etc were around back then.
OMG, OMG, OMG, F1 DIY. Me likey!!!! It looks GREAT! Well done.
I think an interesting, if not ambitious F1 DIY would revolve around the BAR Honda team of 1999: link
The FIA would not let them run separate liveries (their sponsor, British American Tobacco, wanted to market both their 555 and Lucky Strike brands) so they split the car down the middle.
I’ll try to find a photo of the crew from that year, but their race suits were also split down the middle.
[quote comment=\”323513\”][quote comment=\”323511\”]woops!
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Don\’t think Nike branded gloves, bats, batting gloves, etc were around back then.
Yeah, but that\’s a sweatband. Nike certainly made sweatbands back then.
Ok, they need to make the grey polyester jerseys of today with that texture of the old wool. That old wool look of the Alaskan jersey looks so cool.
I’m gonna miss Harry the K as much as any Phillies fan, but disapointed about the chest patch. There’s nothing quite as classy as the unmarked black armband IMO. Hate to give the Yanks credit, but they do it right.
[quote comment=”323515″]Ok, they need to make the grey polyester jerseys of today with that texture of the old wool. That old wool look of the Alaskan jersey looks so cool.[/quote]
If you asked me to boil down my uniform obsession to one word, it would be “texture.” That’s what first attracted me to uniforms as a kid, and that’s what I miss so much in today’s fabrications. Sigh.
Thanks for sharing the photos from Alaska. They were great.
not sure how much of a problem you’ll have for numbers on the field at the same time at USC, seeing as how they both play quaterback on offense.
“I realize some of you probably think a project that involved a professional tailor and professionally made patches shouldn’t count as “DIY.” Personally, though, I think it’s fine – resourceful is as resourceful does”
please, that is a DIY… and an awesome one at that! great job mark! i swear i learn something new with every DIY post! thanks for sharing!!!
so there is a company out there that will embroider logos one shirt at a time? i’ve seen shirt and patch embroidery, but you have to order like 20 minimum…
great work!
Here are some more pics from the No Mas gathering:
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At one point, the MC of the shindigwalked past me…saw my DIY shirt and asked, “Where’d you get that?” When I told him that I made it, he just Harummphed and walked away!
I also found it strange that Wright wore pinstripes to the gathering and then threw a Nike ACG shirt over his shirt and tie as well as a pair of Dunks.
BTW, GREAT work Mark!
If you’re too lazy to follow Paul’s Link, here you go:
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[quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.
[quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
Come to think of it, the link. The division banners are on the right-most outfield light standard that’s out of frame.
[quote comment=”323525″][quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
Come to think of it, the link. The division banners are on the right-most outfield light standard that’s out of frame.[/quote]
I just was going to post that, and you beat me to it. I don’t THINK they did that pre-2005 when the championships were on flags instead of banners, but I’m not sure.
In my searching, I came across this, showing the Spurs do it, too: link
[quote]At one point, the MC of the shindigwalked past me…saw my DIY shirt and asked, “Where’d you get that?” When I told him that I made it, he just Harummphed and walked away![/quote]
maybe he’d have felt better if you’d actually dropped some coin on a brand new product that, ya know, paul had a hand in creating instead of ripping off a day after it was released for sale?
just a thought
Checked out the old Little League photo. I wore a batting helmet like that when I played in the Bay Area circa 1970.
Alaska pictures were great…seems like a simpler time.
[quote comment=”323517″][quote comment=”323515″]Ok, they need to make the grey polyester jerseys of today with that texture of the old wool. That old wool look of the Alaskan jersey looks so cool.[/quote]
If you asked me to boil down my uniform obsession to one word, it would be “texture.” That’s what first attracted me to uniforms as a kid, and that’s what I miss so much in today’s fabrications. Sigh.[/quote]
With today’s technology you would think they could do it, right.
[quote comment=”323527″][quote]At one point, the MC of the shindigwalked past me…saw my DIY shirt and asked, “Where’d you get that?” When I told him that I made it, he just Harummphed and walked away![/quote]
maybe he’d have felt better if you’d actually dropped some coin on a brand new product that, ya know, paul had a hand in creating instead of ripping off a day after it was released for sale?
just a thought[/quote]
Perhaps…I actually told Chris that it was a DIY based on his awesome shirt that unfortunately doesn’t ship out until the 18th… and that It would be great to take the idea and run with it
[quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…
I’m pretty sure, that the only reason the Rays have raised that banner was because it was the first division championship. I’m sure the fact that it was right after a 90 loss season had to play into it as well, though
[quote comment=”323530″][quote comment=”323527″][quote]At one point, the MC of the shindigwalked past me…saw my DIY shirt and asked, “Where’d you get that?” When I told him that I made it, he just Harummphed and walked away![/quote]
maybe he’d have felt better if you’d actually dropped some coin on a brand new product that, ya know, paul had a hand in creating instead of ripping off a day after it was released for sale?
just a thought[/quote]
Perhaps…I actually told Chris that it was a DIY based on his awesome shirt that unfortunately doesn’t ship out until the 18th… and that It would be great to take the idea and run with it[/quote]
How’d you make that, anyway? Fabric paint? Or is it actually silkscreened?
Awesome DIY. Like Ry Co 40 I too have been looking to get patches made for a DIY project. Could you possibly share the maker, Mark?
[quote comment=”323531″][quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…[/quote]
A little more research:
The Mariners have a banner listing every ALCS they’ve been in, even though they also have division banners: link
Leave to the DEVILED EGGS of Tampa, the Cinderella of 2008 to screw up something as nice and simple as championship banner. You know why they put up 2 banners? 1st off, you guys are right, to rub it in our faces and the chowda heads…but also to remind the people of Tampa that they will be the only success they will EVER have in baseball… I saw that home opener the other night and while the GAYS annoucers claimed that the game was a sell out, you could CLEARLY see many seats EMPTY…
They had a fluke last year, they may break 500 this year, but they are FAR from being a threat…to any one…
Putting up a banner for a division championship…how come the Marlins dont have Wild Card Banners in JRS from there 2 WS?
[quote comment=”323527″][quote]At one point, the MC of the shindigwalked past me…saw my DIY shirt and asked, “Where’d you get that?” When I told him that I made it, he just Harummphed and walked away![/quote]
maybe he’d have felt better if you’d actually dropped some coin on a brand new product that, ya know, paul had a hand in creating instead of ripping off a day after it was released for sale?
just a thought[/quote]
i dont wanna start any long discussion or argument or whatever about this, but what you said there sounds an aweful lot like a double standard. the way i read that is, if you do a DIY on a product made by a big company, you should be commended for it, but if you do it for a product made by a small company or an individual, you are “ripping them off.” i may have missed something in what you said tho, so really im just looking for clarification. when is DIY right and when is it wrong?
On the banners, guys I beg to differ. When your team has never reached the playoffs in 20 years, just getting to the playoffs, albeit as a wild card or division winner is something.
I am a Mariners fan and if you win the division you get into the dance. 1995 was such as turbulent year for the team, starting with the strike, getting so far behind the Angels, the comeback, the playoff game, coming from behind against the Yankees and then losing to the Indians, oh and did I mention losing the election to build a new stadium, and still getting it built.
The Mariners have 4 banners, 3 AL West titles, 1 for ALCS appearances. The 2001 AL West banner has an additional blue space for 116 wins.
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Hope that Niners thing is a fake. Not that it looks familiar.
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Here is a picture of Shea’s banners.
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[quote comment=”323535″][quote comment=”323531″][quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…[/quote]
A little more research:
The Mariners have a banner listing every ALCS they’ve been in, even though they also have division banners: link
I’m pretty sure the number of banners you hoist has a lot to do with the number of actual championships you’ve won. Do the Canadiens or Celtics have division/conference banners up for every season they won the Stanley Cup/O’Brien trophy?
[quote comment=\”323538\”]On the banners, guys I beg to differ. When your team has never reached the playoffs in 20 years, just getting to the playoffs, albeit as a wild card or division winner is something.
I am a Mariners fan and if you win the division you get into the dance. 1995 was such as turbulent year for the team, starting with the strike, getting so far behind the Angels, the comeback, the playoff game, coming from behind against the Yankees and then losing to the Indians, oh and did I mention losing the election to build a new stadium, and still getting it built.
The Mariners have 4 banners, 3 AL West titles, 1 for ALCS appearances. The 2001 AL West banner has an additional blue space for 116 wins.
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I see your point and I agree with you, when you have never won anything and then you do with SOMETHING, it is a big deal and it is worth putting up a banner…but a banner for *reaching* the ALCS? Dumb…like the GAYS division banner; dont fans who come to the TRUMP in Tampa see 2008 AL Champions and KNOW they won the division that year?
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[quote comment=”323535″][quote comment=”323531″][quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…[/quote]
A little more research:
The Mariners have a banner listing every ALCS they’ve been in, even though they also have division banners: link
I’m pretty sure the number of banners you hoist has a lot to do with the number of actual championships you’ve won. Do the Canadiens or Celtics have division/conference banners up for every season they won the Stanley Cup/O’Brien trophy?
Here is the Braves 2004 banner right after they won it.
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Nice to know that photographers don’t know the divisions either.
GAH! Screw it. And sorry for the double post
I posted this late last night, but I thought it was cool, so here it is again.
David Murphy made a catch up against the wal of the Rangers’ new LED scoreboard.
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Then they showed it from a different angle:
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[quote comment=”323517″][quote comment=”323515″]Ok, they need to make the grey polyester jerseys of today with that texture of the old wool. That old wool look of the Alaskan jersey looks so cool.[/quote]
If you asked me to boil down my uniform obsession to one word, it would be “texture.” That’s what first attracted me to uniforms as a kid, and that’s what I miss so much in today’s fabrications. Sigh.[/quote]
It seems baseball caps, though, have more texture than ever. When I was a kid the logos on the hats were always flat and lifeless. In the ’90s the authentic hats fans could purchase improved tremendously, with the logo no longer flush with the cap surface, but protruding a bit.
Here is a shot at Turner Field of their banners
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I would say this, as a fan it is confusing to figure out just based on the color of the year. The red one stands out because that is the only World Series in 1995. But the red numbers and blue numbers for the years are difficult to understand. When did they lose in the World Series? was in 1996 or 1997? We all know they lost to the Yankees in a couple of them, but as a non-Yankee or Braves fan I can’t remember.
At least most teams say when they won their title and what they won.
[quote comment=”323517″][quote comment=”323515″]Ok, they need to make the grey polyester jerseys of today with that texture of the old wool. That old wool look of the Alaskan jersey looks so cool.[/quote]
If you asked me to boil down my uniform obsession to one word, it would be “texture.” That’s what first attracted me to uniforms as a kid, and that’s what I miss so much in today’s fabrications. Sigh.[/quote]
I have few if any “hates,” but polyester, out of its appropriate place, comes pretty close (along with artificial turf and domes). Then again, I do wear the Under Armour to run in on a cold day (underneath old-school, manly cotton sweats, of course).
I miss the nylon mesh jerseys popular in the 1980s (in basketball and for baseball BP).
No pics, too lazy to look, but Bronson Arroyo wore a double flapped batting helment while striking out at least twice last night.
Potential uni number issue at South Carolina, as explained by Scott Moody: “Rising RS sophomore QB Stephen Garcia wears #5 and has done so his entire USC career (most of which as been under suspension). This year, incoming freshman defensive back Stephon Gilmore – one of USC’s prized recruits in this year’s class – is currently also wearing #5. Normally, not a problem, but Stephon could play both sides and you can’t have two players with the same number on the field at the same time. If I had to guess, we will probably see Gilmore in a different number if things keep progressing.”
Actually, this is not a big deal, and it’s conceivable they could both wear No. 5. Happens all the time in college football wear two guys wear the same jersey. They just can’t enter the game at the same time wearing the same jersey. Both of LSU’s kickers wore No. 30 at time last year, part of it a silly ruse to play mind games with the opponent. And LSU had a No. 11 on offense (Ryan Perrilloux) and a No. 11 on defense/special teams (Kelvin Sheppard) two years ago. Only problem is that your announcers (ESPN’s Pam Ward and CBS’ Verne Lundquist) occasionally call out the wrong player.
Follow-up: If the players went in at the same time, it\’s possible one could just wear another number for that purpose only.
[quote comment=”323538″]On the banners, guys I beg to differ. When your team has never reached the playoffs in 20 years, just getting to the playoffs, albeit as a wild card or division winner is something.
I am a Mariners fan and if you win the division you get into the dance. 1995 was such as turbulent year for the team, starting with the strike, getting so far behind the Angels, the comeback, the playoff game, coming from behind against the Yankees and then losing to the Indians, oh and did I mention losing the election to build a new stadium, and still getting it built.
The Mariners have 4 banners, 3 AL West titles, 1 for ALCS appearances. The 2001 AL West banner has an additional blue space for 116 wins.
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Thats fine, if you make the playoffs, put up a banner. Granted, if you made it as the wild card, thats open for debate on whether you should put up a ‘Wild Card’ pennant/flag or the round of the playoffs you made it to, but still put something up.
But don’t go all pennant crazy and put up one for evreything you did. If you won the American League, great. Bigger accomplishment than winning the AL East, so put up the AL Champs banner. Its overkill to put up a pennant/flag for each.
As I said, hockey and basketball are different. You put up a banner for everything in those sports. Just the way it is.
The Canadiens only put up Stanley Cup banners
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But remember when they started winning them, there were no divisions or conferences.
I have some of those Burger Chef cards! Mine are Detroit Tigers and I remember punching them out of my Fun Meal box way back when!
Speaking of Tigers, that Tigers/Yanks game on ESPN Classic last night was simply AWSOME! Fidrych was incredible and SO sincere in everything he was doing. I’m glad he seemed to be okay with his career being cut short. Too bad his life was as well.
On the hat texture subject, am I crazy or do I remember actual logo patches applied to batting helmets at one time? The Cubs maybe???
[quote comment=”323543″]Unbalanced quote tags. Better?
[quote comment=”323535″][quote comment=”323531″][quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…[/quote]
baseball is different than hockey and basketball. In hockey and basketball, you raise a banner for everything you win. In baseball, you put up a pennant for the highest level you reach.
Even the Rays’ AAA affiliate knows this…[/quote]
A little more research:
The Mariners have a banner listing every ALCS they’ve been in, even though they also have division banners: link
I’m pretty sure the number of banners you hoist has a lot to do with the number of actual championships you’ve won. Do the Canadiens or Celtics have division/conference banners up for every season they won the Stanley Cup/O’Brien trophy?[/quote]
When you’ve won as many Stanley Cups as Montreal, you don’t have much room for other banners. In the case of the Canadians, they don’t have a banner for the division and conference titles, because it would simply be way too cluttered. If I’m not mistaken, everyone else displays the full spectrum of banners.
But the Flyers list division championships.
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[quote comment=”323526″][quote comment=”323525″][quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
Come to think of it, the link. The division banners are on the right-most outfield light standard that’s out of frame.[/quote]
I just was going to post that, and you beat me to it. I don’t THINK they did that pre-2005 when the championships were on flags instead of banners, but I’m not sure.
In my searching, I came across this, showing the Spurs do it, too: link
Doesn’t the the “wild card era” kinda necessitate defining division championships and league championships? You can win your league without winning your division. In a division as tough as the AL East, I would damn well make sure people knew that 2008 wasn’t due to making the playoffs via the wild card. I guess the Braves would have to come up with another color to delinate wild cards should they ever win one; all of their playoff appearances are via division titles. Yellow w/ blue = division title
Yellow w/ red = national league pennant
Red w/ blue = world championship
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[quote comment=”323546″]I posted this late last night, but I thought it was cool, so here it is again.
David Murphy made a catch up against the wall of the Rangers’ new LED scoreboard.
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Then they showed it from a different angle:
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that is BAD ASS!
Toronto Maple Leafs
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[quote comment=”323557″]But the Flyers list division championships.
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They also share their building with the Sixers who have a ton of banners on their own. If they didn’t list them off, the rafters would be way too cluttered.
You better believe the division titles would have their own banners if they played in their own building.
Detroit Red Wings
Division and conference in red
link
Stanley Cup in white
link
[quote comment=”323537″][quote comment=”323527″][quote]At one point, the MC of the shindigwalked past me…saw my DIY shirt and asked, “Where’d you get that?” When I told him that I made it, he just Harummphed and walked away![/quote]
maybe he’d have felt better if you’d actually dropped some coin on a brand new product that, ya know, paul had a hand in creating instead of ripping off a day after it was released for sale?
just a thought[/quote]
i dont wanna start any long discussion or argument or whatever about this, but what you said there sounds an aweful lot like a double standard. the way i read that is, if you do a DIY on a product made by a big company, you should be commended for it, but if you do it for a product made by a small company or an individual, you are “ripping them off.” i may have missed something in what you said tho, so really im just looking for clarification. when is DIY right and when is it wrong?[/quote]
For the record: While I appreciate Phil having my back, I have no problem with Matt’s DIY shirt. I thought it was really clever of him to wear it to this event, in fact.
Blackhawks
All divisions and Stanley Cups in the middle
link
[quote comment=”323536″]Leave to the DEVILED EGGS of Tampa, the Cinderella of 2008 to screw up something as nice and simple as championship banner. You know why they put up 2 banners? 1st off, you guys are right, to rub it in our faces and the chowda heads…but also to remind the people of Tampa that they will be the only success they will EVER have in baseball… I saw that home opener the other night and while the GAYS annoucers claimed that the game was a sell out, you could CLEARLY see many seats EMPTY…
They had a fluke last year, they may break 500 this year, but they are FAR from being a threat…to any one…
Putting up a banner for a division championship…how come the Marlins dont have Wild Card Banners in JRS from there 2 WS?[/quote]
What a clever individual, all those funny names for the Rays. And tell me again what position you play for the Yankees? What do the other guys on the team have to say about having it rubbed in their faces?
[quote comment=”323555″]
On the hat texture subject, am I crazy or do I remember actual logo patches applied to batting helmets at one time? The Cubs maybe???[/quote]
The Cubs are one of very few teams to do this.
The Yomiuri Giants — much as I despise them — go one better with link, which really looks great. (As does the #107 being worn by this mior-leaguer!)
[quote comment=”323556″]
When you’ve won as many Stanley Cups as Montreal, you don’t have much room for other banners. In the case of the Canadians, they don’t have a banner for the division and conference titles, because it would simply be way too cluttered. If I’m not mistaken, everyone else displays the full spectrum of banners.[/quote]
Bingo. But the Rays and White Sox have plenty of room for all of their championship banners, so they display them. There is no “this is how it’s done in the NHL” type of a rule, just like there’s no “this is the way it is in baseball” rule. The number of banners displayed is probably just inversely proportional to the number of championships you’ve won.
[quote comment=”323558″][quote comment=”323526″][quote comment=”323525″][quote comment=”323524″][quote] “You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.” [/quote]
The Bulls have banners up for all of their championships: division, conference and league even though all of their conference championships and all but one of their division titles came in the same six seasons as their six championships. You can kinda see it in link.[/quote]
Come to think of it, the link. The division banners are on the right-most outfield light standard that’s out of frame.[/quote]
I just was going to post that, and you beat me to it. I don’t THINK they did that pre-2005 when the championships were on flags instead of banners, but I’m not sure.
In my searching, I came across this, showing the Spurs do it, too: link
Doesn’t the the “wild card era” kinda necessitate defining division championships and league championships? You can win your league without winning your division. In a division as tough as the AL East, I would damn well make sure people knew that 2008 wasn’t due to making the playoffs via the wild card. I guess the Braves would have to come up with another color to delinate wild cards should they ever win one; all of their playoff appearances are via division titles. Yellow w/ blue = division title
Yellow w/ red = national league pennant
Red w/ blue = world championship
link
link
And it does say “World Champions” under the 1995 banner.
Boston Bruins
Stanley Cups in yellow, division in white, presidents trophy in black.
link
Mr. Lukas! I found more stirrups! Knuckleballer R.A. Dickey of the Twins wears them.
link
Hey Paul: Can you post a link to the Ebay patch maker? Thanks.
Edmonton Oilers
link
link
Man, that Dolphins helmet is hideous!
[quote comment=”323567″][quote comment=”323556″]
When you’ve won as many Stanley Cups as Montreal, you don’t have much room for other banners. In the case of the Canadians, they don’t have a banner for the division and conference titles, because it would simply be way too cluttered. If I’m not mistaken, everyone else displays the full spectrum of banners.[/quote]
Bingo. But the Rays and White Sox have plenty of room for all of their championship banners, so they display them. There is no “this is how it’s done in the NHL” type of a rule, just like there’s no “this is the way it is in baseball” rule. The number of banners displayed is probably just inversely proportional to the number of championships you’ve won.[/quote]
There’s no rule one way or another. UCLA has won more Pac-10 basketball championships than anybody, but only displays national championship banners because they’ve won more of those than anybody. By contrast, North Carolina displays everything (including ACC regular-season and tournament championships), and has plenty to show too.
[quote comment=”323564″]Blackhawks
All divisions and Stanley Cups in the middle
link
I was trying to find a more detailed picture of the Blackhawks banners, because I think they only go with the “highest level” approach to banner-hanging. I really can’t remember, though.
For example, I don’t think there’s a division and conference banner for 1992. (Obviously there’s only a Cup banner for those three seasons, since they all came before the expansion era). I could certainly be misremembering, though.
link
ESPN is running NHL Playoff Previews and a big mistake here.
Carolina Panthers with the Florida Panthers logo vs New Jersey Devils
[quote comment=”323567″][quote comment=”323556″]
When you’ve won as many Stanley Cups as Montreal, you don’t have much room for other banners. In the case of the Canadians, they don’t have a banner for the division and conference titles, because it would simply be way too cluttered. If I’m not mistaken, everyone else displays the full spectrum of banners.[/quote]
Bingo. But the Rays and White Sox have plenty of room for all of their championship banners, so they display them. There is no “this is how it’s done in the NHL” type of a rule, just like there’s no “this is the way it is in baseball” rule. The number of banners displayed is probably just inversely proportional to the number of championships you’ve won.[/quote]
You’re obviously missing the inherent difference between hanging a pennant or raising a flag like baseball does and hanging a banner like hockey and basketball does.
Hang as many banners as you want. More room for them, and they hang over your head, which allows for it to be read easier and eliminates the look of clutter. Pennants and flags are really only displayed in one area, and if you start doing one for everything you win, it becomes overly cluttered extremely fast. Plus, if you’re sitting by home plate and looking in the outfield at the flags and see multiple flags for the same year, you’re going to be confused. Thats why baseball color codes everything and only raises one pennant/flag per year.
Penguins
link
Even NHL MVPs
link
[quote comment=”323576″]http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4068728
ESPN is running NHL Playoff Previews and a big mistake here.
Carolina Panthers with the Florida Panthers logo vs New Jersey Devils[/quote]
Not as big as you thinking the Carolina Panthers are in the hockey playoffs.
Many eventful things happened on 4/15:
Jackie Robinson’s MLB debut (1947)
Abe Lincoln died (1863)
The Titanic sunk (1912, iceberg was hit 4/14)
In England the Hillsborough disaster at Sheffield where 95 fans died at the FA Cup Semi-Final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest (1989)
And yours truly was born (1958) :-(
[quote comment=”323563″][quote comment=”323537″][quote comment=”323527″][quote]At one point, the MC of the shindigwalked past me…saw my DIY shirt and asked, “Where’d you get that?” When I told him that I made it, he just Harummphed and walked away![/quote]
maybe he’d have felt better if you’d actually dropped some coin on a brand new product that, ya know, paul had a hand in creating instead of ripping off a day after it was released for sale?
just a thought[/quote]
i dont wanna start any long discussion or argument or whatever about this, but what you said there sounds an aweful lot like a double standard. the way i read that is, if you do a DIY on a product made by a big company, you should be commended for it, but if you do it for a product made by a small company or an individual, you are “ripping them off.” i may have missed something in what you said tho, so really im just looking for clarification. when is DIY right and when is it wrong?[/quote]
For the record: While I appreciate Phil having my back, I have no problem with Matt’s DIY shirt. I thought it was really clever of him to wear it to this event, in fact.[/quote]
also for the record — i just like to bust powers’ chops
i do think it’s not right of him to post “look at me” pics without also posting the obligatory mrs. powers pics as well, just to balance things out, however
Responding to your comment last night after I hit the hay, JTH…
[quote]Teebz,
I have every intention of entering the pool, but it’s a lot of work, so I don’t have a lot of confidence in myself to get everything done. It ain’t like an NCAA bracket where you just go with your gut instinct and let ’er rip.
It’ll probably be totally half-assed and look something like this:
Red Wings sweep – Game winners in all four: Zetterberg
Blackhawks win games 1, 3, 5 and 7. Game winners in all four: Toews
Flames win games 2,4 and 6 – Iginla with the game winners in all three
and so on…[/quote]
In three lines, you already made three predictions. Five more lines and you’re done. You don’t have to pick game-winning goal scorers. But it’s an added bonus for picking the right player. The round with the most work is round one.
The chances of the top scoring player scoring a game-winning goal? Pretty good.
The reason for the changes were outlined, and I’m trying to get as many people (including the non-hockey people) involved so that they can enjoy the NHL Playoffs as well. That’s all. :o)
When I saw the Dolphins’ aqua helmet, and read that it was going to be a league-wide alternate helmets concept, I thought of a pic I saw of Marvin Lewis in an office and a black with orange stripes helmet on a shelf. This sounds like one of those “negative” helmets. Does anyone have other reports or pics of these helmets?
[quote comment=”323577″]Thats why baseball color codes everything.[/quote]
huh?
/for the record — not a fan of the “wild card & nlds winners” banner — not that 1999 shouldn’t be acknowledged, as they did make the post season, but “NLDS winner”; “wild card winner”? — in 2006 they were also “NLDS winners” (as lame as it sounds), so why not acknowledge that?
because you don’t
[quote comment=”323582″]Responding to your comment last night after I hit the hay, JTH…
[quote]Teebz,
I have every intention of entering the pool, but it’s a lot of work, so I don’t have a lot of confidence in myself to get everything done. It ain’t like an NCAA bracket where you just go with your gut instinct and let ’er rip.
It’ll probably be totally half-assed and look something like this:
Red Wings sweep – Game winners in all four: Zetterberg
Blackhawks win games 1, 3, 5 and 7. Game winners in all four: Toews
Flames win games 2,4 and 6 – Iginla with the game winners in all three
and so on…[/quote]
In three lines, you already made three predictions. Five more lines and you’re done. You don’t have to pick game-winning goal scorers. But it’s an added bonus for picking the right player. The round with the most work is round one.
The chances of the top scoring player scoring a game-winning goal? Pretty good.
The reason for the changes were outlined, and I’m trying to get as many people (including the non-hockey people) involved so that they can enjoy the NHL Playoffs as well. That’s all. :o)[/quote]
OK, cool. And again, I wasn’t bitching (because, in that post, it kinda seems like I was) that it’s too complicated. I was just saying that the more complex nature of the contest probably has a lot to do with the paucity of entrants so far.
I have to say that at first I was shocked and disgusted by that Dolphins helmet. The more I think about it the more interesting an idea it seems and I can’t help buy wonder what it would look like with the rest of the uniform. The Steelers with their throwback yellow helmets look good and from what I’ve read it seems as though that was all Ridell was doing was switching around the colors in that kind of manner. A green Packers helmet might sound atrocious, along with a blue cowboys helmet, but then again it might make for a neat contrast with what we’re normally used to seeing. On the other hand, I hate the idea of seeing this coming back just as a marketing ploy or as a full time thing. Save it for a Halloween game and for only the teams playing on Halloween every couple of years or so(similar in the manner in which the NFL has done the weird throwbacks on Thanksgiving, so the next appropriate holiday for something different would probably have to be Halloween).
Oh, and there is not the posessive form of they.
I can see where they got those big 1 shirt ideas from after UNC won the national title!
Not to mention, I’m pretty sure UCLA only does championship banners!
link
[quote comment=”323578″]Penguins
link
Even NHL MVPs
link
nhl scoring champs as well! nice touch!
your team… your stadium/arena… your history… hang up whatever banners you’d like!
thats what i think anyways…
[quote comment=”323580″]Many eventful things happened on 4/15:
Jackie Robinson’s MLB debut (1947)
Abe Lincoln died (1863)
The Titanic sunk (1912, iceberg was hit 4/14)
In England the Hillsborough disaster at Sheffield where 95 fans died at the FA Cup Semi-Final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest (1989)
And yours truly was born (1958) :-([/quote]
……and I owe $$$$$ every year to the I freakin’ R S……
[quote comment=”323585″]
OK, cool. And again, I wasn’t bitching (because, in that post, it kinda seems like I was) that it’s too complicated. I was just saying that the more complex nature of the contest probably has a lot to do with the paucity of entrants so far.[/quote]
I hear you, but there were far more complaints from people who didn’t know enough players on teams last year to enter. This year, I just wanted to try to get as many people on-board to make the pool of people and competition a little better.
I didn’t take it as bitching either. Just wanted to be sure that everyone understands. The majority of points scored will still come off who wins each game and series.
The goal scorer just adds a secondary shot at more points (and really sees what kind of prognosticator you are). LOL
Here’s the Steelers banners
link
[quote comment=”323586″]I have to say that at first I was shocked and disgusted by that Dolphins helmet. The more I think about it the more interesting an idea it seems and I can’t help buy wonder what it would look like with the rest of the uniform. The Steelers with their throwback yellow helmets look good and from what I’ve read it seems as though that was all Ridell was doing was switching around the colors in that kind of manner. A green Packers helmet might sound atrocious, along with a blue cowboys helmet, but then again it might make for a neat contrast with what we’re normally used to seeing. On the other hand, I hate the idea of seeing this coming back just as a marketing ploy or as a full time thing. Save it for a Halloween game and for only the teams playing on Halloween every couple of years or so(similar in the manner in which the NFL has done the weird throwbacks on Thanksgiving, so the next appropriate holiday for something different would probably have to be Halloween).
Oh, and there is not the posessive form of they.[/quote]
the steelers hemlet was a throwback helmet. not a “ridell switch-a-roo”! note the bigger steelers logo on the yellow helmet, and a gray mask
I know it was a throwback, but from the description of what Ridell was trying to do that throwback helmet seems as though that’s what they would have came up with for the Steelers, the whole inverse of colors. Thanks for clarifying, I see I didn’t explain that well enough in my original post.
[quote comment=”323591″][quote comment=”323585″]
OK, cool. And again, I wasn’t bitching (because, in that post, it kinda seems like I was) that it’s too complicated. I was just saying that the more complex nature of the contest probably has a lot to do with the paucity of entrants so far.[/quote]
I hear you, but there were far more complaints from people who didn’t know enough players on teams last year to enter. This year, I just wanted to try to get as many people on-board to make the pool of people and competition a little better.
I didn’t take it as bitching either. Just wanted to be sure that everyone understands. The majority of points scored will still come off who wins each game and series.
The goal scorer just adds a secondary shot at more points (and really sees what kind of prognosticator you are). LOL[/quote]
Is there an actual link, or just make the prediction here? I’m very interested, but if there’s a link, not sure I’d be able to see it at work
[quote comment=”323565″][quote comment=”323536″]Leave to the DEVILED EGGS of Tampa, the Cinderella of 2008 to screw up something as nice and simple as championship banner. You know why they put up 2 banners? 1st off, you guys are right, to rub it in our faces and the chowda heads…but also to remind the people of Tampa that they will be the only success they will EVER have in baseball… I saw that home opener the other night and while the GAYS annoucers claimed that the game was a sell out, you could CLEARLY see many seats EMPTY…
They had a fluke last year, they may break 500 this year, but they are FAR from being a threat…to any one…
Putting up a banner for a division championship…how come the Marlins dont have Wild Card Banners in JRS from there 2 WS?[/quote]
What a clever individual, all those funny names for the Rays. And tell me again what position you play for the Yankees? What do the other guys on the team have to say about having it rubbed in their faces?[/quote]
Son, I dont Play for the Yankees, but i am overly avid fan of them. Some of us like to say “we” b/c “we” have a passion for a team, and even a lifestyle or deep connection to them.
I myself am a transplanted NY-er who lives in the southeastern USA and I am called a YANKEE by all my customers, co-workers and even my SOUTHERN WIFE…
So I am sorry you dont care for my ‘clever’ names for the ‘our’ rivals, and I am sorry your NY MESS stunk it up opening SH*TTY Field the other night…oops i didnt it agin didnt i? To each his own…
[quote comment=”323584″][quote comment=”323577″]Thats why baseball color codes everything.[/quote]
link
[/quote]
Oh, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! Can’t the Mets do ANYTHING RIGHT? They fucked up the color-coding rule? Everyone knows about baseball’s color-coding rule. Please tell me they corrected this egregious error in the new park.
[quote comment=”323584″][quote comment=”323577″]Thats why baseball color codes everything.[/quote]
link
/for the record — not a fan of the “wild card & nlds winners” banner — not that 1999 shouldn’t be acknowledged, as they did make the post season, but “NLDS winner”; “wild card winner”? — in 2006 they were also “NLDS winners” (as lame as it sounds), so why not acknowledge that?
because you don’t[/quote]
Re: 1980s Mets — Such a shame that a team with that much talent only won two division titles.
One of which led to a world championship, of course. But still, only one pennant.
[quote comment=”323584″][quote comment=”323577″]Thats why baseball color codes everything.[/quote]
link[/quote]
Well… that is, unless you’re the Mets (who can’t do anything right) or the Yankees, who just flaunt a number as if to say “we’re too important for banners, we have won it 24 times, suck on our shit”
[quote comment=”323595″]
Is there an actual link, or just make the prediction here? I’m very interested, but if there’s a link, not sure I’d be able to see it at work[/quote]
Yep. link, or yesterday’s ticker.
[quote comment=”323582″]Responding to your comment last night after I hit the hay, JTH…
[quote]Teebz,
I have every intention of entering the pool, but it’s a lot of work, so I don’t have a lot of confidence in myself to get everything done. It ain’t like an NCAA bracket where you just go with your gut instinct and let ’er rip.
It’ll probably be totally half-assed and look something like this:
Red Wings sweep – Game winners in all four: Zetterberg
Blackhawks win games 1, 3, 5 and 7. Game winners in all four: Toews
Flames win games 2,4 and 6 – Iginla with the game winners in all three
and so on…[/quote]
In three lines, you already made three predictions. Five more lines and you’re done. You don’t have to pick game-winning goal scorers. But it’s an added bonus for picking the right player. The round with the most work is round one.
The chances of the top scoring player scoring a game-winning goal? Pretty good.
The reason for the changes were outlined, and I’m trying to get as many people (including the non-hockey people) involved so that they can enjoy the NHL Playoffs as well. That’s all. :o)[/quote]
Check your email, I just sent an entry.
[quote comment=”323596″][quote comment=”323565″][quote comment=”323536″]Leave to the DEVILED EGGS of Tampa, the Cinderella of 2008 to screw up something as nice and simple as championship banner. You know why they put up 2 banners? 1st off, you guys are right, to rub it in our faces and the chowda heads…but also to remind the people of Tampa that they will be the only success they will EVER have in baseball… I saw that home opener the other night and while the GAYS annoucers claimed that the game was a sell out, you could CLEARLY see many seats EMPTY…
They had a fluke last year, they may break 500 this year, but they are FAR from being a threat…to any one…
Putting up a banner for a division championship…how come the Marlins dont have Wild Card Banners in JRS from there 2 WS?[/quote]
What a clever individual, all those funny names for the Rays. And tell me again what position you play for the Yankees? What do the other guys on the team have to say about having it rubbed in their faces?[/quote]
Son, I dont Play for the Yankees, but i am overly avid fan of them. Some of us like to say “we” b/c “we” have a passion for a team, and even a lifestyle or deep connection to them.
I myself am a transplanted NY-er who lives in the southeastern USA and I am called a YANKEE by all my customers, co-workers and even my SOUTHERN WIFE…
So I am sorry you dont care for my ‘clever’ names for the ‘our’ rivals, and I am sorry your NY MESS stunk it up opening SH*TTY Field the other night…oops i didnt it agin didnt i? To each his own…[/quote]
I just sent Adam a private note, asking him to please stop behaving like a 12-yr-old. Big surprise: Adam is a cowardly pussy using a phony e-mail address.
So now, instead of asking him to cool it, I’ll just block him from the site. Nicely done, Adam.
[quote comment=”323573″]Man, that Dolphins helmet is hideous![/quote]
could’ve been worse. imagine it in ORANGE!
[quote comment=”323600″][quote comment=”323584″][quote comment=”323577″]Thats why baseball color codes everything.[/quote]
link[/quote]
Well… that is, unless you’re the Mets (who can’t do anything right) or the Yankees, who just flaunt a number as if to say “we’re too important for banners, we have won it
2426 times, suck on our shit”[/quote]Fixed
[quote comment=”323600″][quote comment=”323584″][quote comment=”323577″]Thats why baseball color codes everything.[/quote]
link[/quote]
Well… that is, unless you’re the Mets (who can’t do anything right) or the Yankees, who just flaunt a number as if to say “we’re too important for banners, we have won it 24 times, suck on our shit”[/quote]
26 times beardface
[quote comment=”323594″]I know it was a throwback, but from the description of what Ridell was trying to do that throwback helmet seems as though that’s what they would have came up with for the Steelers, the whole inverse of colors. Thanks for clarifying, I see I didn’t explain that well enough in my original post.[/quote]
well… i have to now admit… i’ve been holding out on paul BIG TIME! i DIYed a steelers helmet 2 years ago and never took a single picture of it. don’t ask me why, maybe i didn’t want people to steal the idea or whatever. but i guess it’s about time i put it out there. i’ll take pics and send them to paul tonight along with another DIY project i’ve been working on (pittsburgh city/sports mashup).
[quote comment=”323603″][quote comment=”323596″][quote comment=”323565″][quote comment=”323536″]Leave to the DEVILED EGGS of Tampa, the Cinderella of 2008 to screw up something as nice and simple as championship banner. You know why they put up 2 banners? 1st off, you guys are right, to rub it in our faces and the chowda heads…but also to remind the people of Tampa that they will be the only success they will EVER have in baseball… I saw that home opener the other night and while the GAYS annoucers claimed that the game was a sell out, you could CLEARLY see many seats EMPTY…
They had a fluke last year, they may break 500 this year, but they are FAR from being a threat…to any one…
Putting up a banner for a division championship…how come the Marlins dont have Wild Card Banners in JRS from there 2 WS?[/quote]
What a clever individual, all those funny names for the Rays. And tell me again what position you play for the Yankees? What do the other guys on the team have to say about having it rubbed in their faces?[/quote]
Son, I dont Play for the Yankees, but i am overly avid fan of them. Some of us like to say “we” b/c “we” have a passion for a team, and even a lifestyle or deep connection to them.
I myself am a transplanted NY-er who lives in the southeastern USA and I am called a YANKEE by all my customers, co-workers and even my SOUTHERN WIFE…
So I am sorry you dont care for my ‘clever’ names for the ‘our’ rivals, and I am sorry your NY MESS stunk it up opening SH*TTY Field the other night…oops i didnt it agin didnt i? To each his own…[/quote]
I just sent Alex a private note, asking him to please stop behaving like a 12-yr-old. Big surprise: Alex is a cowardly pussy using a phony e-mail address.
So now, instead of asking him to cool it, I’ll just block him from the site. Nicely done, Alex.[/quote]
You mean the “Crankee” fan? HA! Couldn’t resist. Sorry…going back to my hole now.
[quote comment=”323606″][quote comment=”323600″][quote comment=”323584″][quote comment=”323577″]Thats why baseball color codes everything.[/quote]
link[/quote]
Well… that is, unless you’re the Mets (who can’t do anything right) or the Yankees, who just flaunt a number as if to say “we’re too important for banners, we have won it 24 times, suck on our shit”[/quote]
26 times beardface[/quote]
I only recognize 24, thank you very much
the other 2 don’t count as they cheated. Don’t ask me to back that up, cause I can’t, but its true, dammit, and thats that.
Truth be told, I mistyped and submitted before realizing
hey paul is that “best basketball jersey” pic Orrville High School in Ohio, home of THE Bobby Knight.
great to see the museum displays on Eddie Feigner. my dad took me to see The King & His Court back when i was about 10 years old (’67 or ’68). Eddie was an amazing pitcher.
[quote comment=”323596″]So I am sorry you dont care for my ‘clever’ names for the ‘our’ rivals, and I am sorry your NY MESS stunk it up opening SH*TTY Field the other night…oops i didnt it agin didnt i? To each his own…[/quote]
They’re not clever. They’re juvenile and homophobic.
As for banners, only someone completely ignorant of baseball would consider winning the 2008 AL East to be any less of an accomplishment than winning the 2008 AL Pennant.
Y’all keep doing this Do It Yourself stuff, and you’re all gonna end up arrested like this dude:
link
(picture is possibly NSFW for some of you)
The 1980 Topps Football cards also used blank helmets, I remember opening my first pack as a kid and it being a rather traumatic experience.
Imagine being 7 years old and getting this card of The Snake: link
Or this Dan Fouts debacle: link
Or this mockery of my favorite player, the Polish Rifle: link
Paul, have you ever done a post about other hat manufacturers besides New Era? I know they are the “official on field cap of MLB” but other companies (Wilson, Roman Cap Co.) used to make caps for teams. Have you(or anyone else) ever covered this or have any info? Thanks.
Folks, just for the record…
Playoffs vs Postseason.
The NHL, NBA & NHL have Playoffs.
MLB officially has a Postseason, the only playoff games in MLB occur when the regular season finishes with two teams that are tied, and one needs to move on to the postseason.
The Yankees – Red Sox game of 1978 is probably the most famous “playoff” example – but a MLB playoff game is considered a regular season game.
I would think that UniWatch could be the one place where the terms are used correctly!!!
[quote comment=”323614″][quote comment=”323596″]So I am sorry you dont care for my ‘clever’ names for the ‘our’ rivals, and I am sorry your NY MESS stunk it up opening SH*TTY Field the other night…oops i didnt it agin didnt i? To each his own…[/quote]
They’re not clever. They’re juvenile and homophobic.
As for banners, only someone completely ignorant of baseball would consider winning the 2008 AL East to be any less of an accomplishment than winning the 2008 AL Pennant.[/quote]
Winning the AL East might be harder but I still think that winning the pennant and the World Series is the bigger accomplishment. Would you rather be the 2003 Yankees or the 2003 Marlins?
If you’re a Mariners fan, do you look at those banners and say “we never won the big one”.
Maybe its just my bias – I guess I just think at the end of the season, there’s only one winner.
Think about the NHL – the President’s Trophy, six divisions, two conferences, the Stanley Cup. That’s ten banners a year. Only one of those actually matters. Nobody cares who won the President’s Trophy or the Pacific Division.
Bulls logo contains subliminal messages. More info here…
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[quote comment=”323614″][quote comment=”323596″]So I am sorry you dont care for my ‘clever’ names for the ‘our’ rivals, and I am sorry your NY MESS stunk it up opening SH*TTY Field the other night…oops i didnt it agin didnt i? To each his own…[/quote]
They’re not clever. They’re juvenile and homophobic.
As for banners, only someone completely ignorant of baseball would consider winning the 2008 AL East to be any less of an accomplishment than winning the 2008 AL Pennant.[/quote]
Of course winning the AL Pennant is more of an accomplishment than winning the AL East.
If you win the AL Pennant, you either are the AL East Champ, beat the AL East Champ, or beat the team that beat the AL East Champ. In either way, you’re better off than the team that won the AL East, unless its you, so its a bigger accomplishment.
Thanks for linking to my site on the 49ers logo.
I actually got a chance to talk with someone who has bought something from the NFL Shop and confirmed that that logo is available for some customized products and has been available for a year.
Looks like it’s not part of the new design.
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Think about the NHL – the President’s Trophy, six divisions, two conferences, the Stanley Cup. That’s ten banners a year. Only one of those actually matters. Nobody cares who won the President’s Trophy or the Pacific Division.[/quote]
I agree with basketball and hockey, where the whole concept of divisions has been killed off. (Thus, IMHO, making the regular season meaningless.)
In baseball its much different. Even with the wild card, you generally have to win your division to get in.
[quote comment=”323582″]In three lines, you already made three predictions. Five more lines and you’re done. You don’t have to pick game-winning goal scorers. But it’s an added bonus for picking the right player. The round with the most work is round one.
The chances of the top scoring player scoring a game-winning goal? Pretty good.
The reason for the changes were outlined, and I’m trying to get as many people (including the non-hockey people) involved so that they can enjoy the NHL Playoffs as well. That’s all. :o)[/quote]
Teebz, in the Chicago Sun-Times today they mention that EA did a video game simulation of the playoffs: the championship round was Bruins over the Blackhawks. :-)
Just throwin it out there but here is a picture of Bank One Ballpark showing the Dbacks division, league and “world” championships.
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re: those burger chef baseball cards. in the cleveland area, the local pepsi bottler distributed cards that looked exactly like those featuring indians players. the card was attached (by perforation) to a smaller piece of paper that would loop over the neck of the old glass quart bottles. i think i have a dave laroche or charlie spikes somewhere at home.
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I agree with basketball and hockey, where the whole concept of divisions has been killed off. (Thus, IMHO, making the regular season meaningless.)
In baseball its much different. Even with the wild card, you generally have to win your division to get in.[/quote]
I attribute the different feelings people have for baseball to the idea that “the pennant” is a word almost exclusivly applied to baseball (among sports); and what for a long time was the strict separation of the leagues.
[quote comment=”323625″]Just throwin it out there but here is a picture of Bank One Ballpark showing the Dbacks division, league and “world” championships.
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thats actually kinda cool…
i like the flags above the scoreboard too!
That didn’t work right. :-)
I was trying to comment on the idea that the term “pennant” is exclusive to baseball among sports, and we used to have strict separation between the leagues for 154/162 games. That’s why I think people have a different idea about what to hang at a baseball stadium vs. a basketball hockey arena IMHO.
[quote comment=”323624″][quote comment=”323582″]In three lines, you already made three predictions. Five more lines and you’re done. You don’t have to pick game-winning goal scorers. But it’s an added bonus for picking the right player. The round with the most work is round one.
The chances of the top scoring player scoring a game-winning goal? Pretty good.
The reason for the changes were outlined, and I’m trying to get as many people (including the non-hockey people) involved so that they can enjoy the NHL Playoffs as well. That’s all. :o)[/quote]
Teebz, in the Chicago Sun-Times today they mention that EA did a video game simulation of the playoffs: the championship round was Bruins over the Blackhawks. :-)[/quote]
I saw that yesterday. Pretty interesting.
Bruins beat Montreal in six; Carolina in six; and Washington in seven to get to the Final.
Hawks beat Calgary in six; Vancouver in six; and San Jose in seven to get to the Final.
In the Final, Bruins over the Hawks in six games.
They also predicted that Columbus would defeat Detroit in seven games in the first round – bold prediction, but very possible.
Crap! I thought I might have made it to the ticker for the first time, but someone else got the credit. I posted about Koji Uehara’s glove last week and also yesterday. I even used my real name instead of my usual screen name because I know how the rules go. I guess Jeremy had better pics than I did. Nuts!
I’ll stand by what I said, at the end of the season there’s only one winner.
I was at a flames game not too long ago and we were chatting about the sheer number of banners in our rafters – division titles nobody remembers, presidents trophy, blah blah blah. The only one that matters has a picture of the Stanley Cup on it.
Which is particularly appropriate this week, when the Blackhawks come to town with Khabibulin in net – I wonder if he looks up at our Western Conference Champions 2004 banner, looks at his Stanley Cup ring and chuckles a little.
[quote comment=”323528″]Checked out the old Little League photo. I wore a batting helmet like that when I played in the Bay Area circa 1970.
Alaska pictures were great…seems like a simpler time.[/quote]
Ebbets Field Flannels has that Goldpanners “49” hat. Or, it would make an okay DIY project, maybe?
—Ricko
Anyway, back to uni issues, I’m continuing to track the Jays 2009 uniform combinations (see my name for the link). Pretty dull so far, they’ve only worn the black alts once this season.
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[quote comment=”323547″][quote comment=”323517″][quote comment=”323515″]Ok, they need to make the grey polyester jerseys of today with that texture of the old wool. That old wool look of the Alaskan jersey looks so cool.[/quote]
If you asked me to boil down my uniform obsession to one word, it would be “texture.” That’s what first attracted me to uniforms as a kid, and that’s what I miss so much in today’s fabrications. Sigh.[/quote]
It seems baseball caps, though, have more texture than ever. When I was a kid the logos on the hats were always flat and lifeless. In the ’90s the authentic hats fans could purchase improved tremendously, with the logo no longer flush with the cap surface, but protruding a bit.[/quote]
Ugh, I can’t stand 3-D embroidering on baseball caps. Some designs don’t translate well, see the ’94-’99 Astros shooting star that got huge, and the White Sox logo is totally distorted; much wider. I was thrilled when they finally offered the flat ’91-’92 version with no MLB logo on the back.
I’ve never seen that Expos Jello mold, but I have two very similar Blue Jays ones (with the old logo). They were apparently given away if you bought a certain amount of blue Jello when it was first introduced (or so I was told when I visited the Jello museum; I immidately bought them on eBay once I got home). Now that I know this Expos one exists, I’ll have to buy it too (even though it is WAY more than I pay for the Jays ones)
[quote comment=”323637″]I’ve never seen that Expos Jello mold, but I have two very similar Blue Jays ones (with the old logo). They were apparently given away if you bought a certain amount of blue Jello when it was first introduced (or so I was told when I visited the Jello museum; I immidately bought them on eBay once I got home). Now that I know this Expos one exists, I’ll have to buy it too (even though it is WAY more than I pay for the Jays ones)[/quote]
I didn’t know that jello mold collecting was a hobby…interesting.
The problems with the alternate helmets are that the alternate color is usually used in the logo on the helmet so it blends in, like the Dolphins helmet. Also fans don’t buy helmets like they do jerseys. That’s probably the real reason the NFL wasn’t interested.
[quote comment=”323634″]Anyway, back to uni issues, I’m continuing to track the Jays 2009 uniform combinations (see my name for the link). Pretty dull so far, they’ve only worn the black alts once this season.[/quote]
mike 2, that’s an awesome way to track things. RyCo, do we want to throw something together on some webspace for our buccos tracking?
Phil, is there some standard you were looking for as far as the tracking or this pretty informal?
[quote comment=”323638″]I didn’t know that jello mold collecting was a hobby…interesting.[/quote]
Its not (at least not for me)… The Jays ones were the only ones I’ve ever had until now, since I just bought that Expos one. Even if I find out that there is a whole set of these available, I’ll those are the only two teams I would really want. For the record, the Jello museum was just something to do on a rainy day on vacation.
[quote comment=”323632″]I’ll stand by what I said, at the end of the season there’s only one winner.
I was at a flames game not too long ago and we were chatting about the sheer number of banners in our rafters – division titles nobody remembers, presidents trophy, blah blah blah. The only one that matters has a picture of the Stanley Cup on it.
Which is particularly appropriate this week, when the Blackhawks come to town with Khabibulin in net – I wonder if he looks up at our Western Conference Champions 2004 banner, looks at his Stanley Cup ring and chuckles a little.[/quote]
Or the fact that he’s 22-5-2 all-time against Calgary. That’s gotta be a huge psychological block for the Flames. LOL
[quote]Phil, is there some standard you were looking for as far as the tracking or this pretty informal?[/quote]
as formal (or informal) as you want…
/prolly gonna do a ASG break update and then an end of season update, with whomever participates, so it’s really up to you
FYI — because im so computer savvy, im keeping my metropolitan baseball club tracking sheet on a 6×9 steno pad (only because i didn’t set up my xL spreadsheet yet)…
only ask that the teams record (W/L only) and unischeme be tracked; how is up to you and if you want to be more intricate (such as tracking SP, WP, etc., is fine)
Slight leak of the new Jags uni in this promotional pic. You can definitely make out the new typeface for the nameplates. The numbers appear to be unchanged. It’s still too hard to make out changes to piping/stripes/sleeve logos, etc.
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[quote comment=”323536″]Leave to the DEVILED EGGS of Tampa, the Cinderella of 2008 to screw up something as nice and simple as championship banner. You know why they put up 2 banners? 1st off, you guys are right, to rub it in our faces and the chowda heads…but also to remind the people of Tampa that they will be the only success they will EVER have in baseball… I saw that home opener the other night and while the GAYS annoucers claimed that the game was a sell out, you could CLEARLY see many seats EMPTY…
They had a fluke last year, they may break 500 this year, but they are FAR from being a threat…to any one…
Putting up a banner for a division championship…how come the Marlins dont have Wild Card Banners in JRS from there 2 WS?[/quote]
I am a Yankee fan, and this guy is embarrassing me. Leave homophobia out of your rants, guy. The Rays went to the WS and they have every right to display their banners. And if you think they’re a flash in the pan and they’re going away this year, you’re kidding yourself.
[quote comment=”323644″]Slight leak of the new Jags uni in this promotional pic. You can definitely make out the new typeface for the nameplates. The numbers appear to be unchanged. It’s still too hard to make out changes to piping/stripes/sleeve logos, etc.
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New uni preview aside, I love that the billboard has “[picture of the helmet logo].com” as the team’s web address. Is that jaguars.com? jacksonvillejaguars.com? coughupahairball.com?
[quote comment=”323645″]I am a Yankee fan, and this guy is embarrassing me. Leave homophobia out of your rants, guy. The Rays went to the WS and they have every right to display their banners. And if you think they’re a flash in the pan and they’re going away this year, you’re kidding yourself.[/quote]
FWLIW, the Cubs announced a sellout the other day (and they probably will have upwards of 70-75 sellouts at a minimum this year) and you could clearly see empty seats there.
Empty seats are a product of the “hey we need wider concourses so people can get to the gift shop, the radar guns, and the different in-stadium bars more easily” craze. JMHO.
[quote comment=”323646″][quote comment=”323644″]Slight leak of the new Jags uni in this promotional pic. You can definitely make out the new typeface for the nameplates. The numbers appear to be unchanged. It’s still too hard to make out changes to piping/stripes/sleeve logos, etc.
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New uni preview aside, I love that the billboard has “[picture of the helmet logo].com” as the team’s web address. Is that jaguars.com? jacksonvillejaguars.com? coughupahairball.com?[/quote]
Is it really that hard to figure out it’s jaguars.com???
Some softball uniforms from the Life archives. They’re in a big cache titled Softball. (Not too imaginative.) These are dated from 1949. There’s a photo of a WXYZ camera so they may be from Detroit.
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[quote comment=”323647″]Empty seats are a product of the “hey we need wider concourses so people can get to the gift shop, the radar guns, and the different in-stadium bars more easily” craze. JMHO.[/quote]
Empty seats on Monday were also the product of the “holy shit, it’s 36 degrees and raining; I’m gonna get my ass somewhere relatively dry and warm right now” craze.
[quote comment=”323649″]. There’s a photo of a WXYZ camera so they may be from Detroit.
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I’m not an expert on Detroit, but Briggs could be as in Briggs Stadium. And IMHO that “…at Eight Mile” address on the City Limits Bar team seems to be dead giveaway. :-)
Didn’t that funeral parlor jersey look like letters ironed on a regular everyday shirt?
[quote comment=”323643″][quote]Phil, is there some standard you were looking for as far as the tracking or this pretty informal?[/quote]
as formal (or informal) as you want…
/prolly gonna do a ASG break update and then an end of season update, with whomever participates, so it’s really up to you
FYI — because im so computer savvy, im keeping my metropolitan baseball club tracking sheet on a 6×9 steno pad (only because i didn’t set up my xL spreadsheet yet)…
only ask that the teams record (W/L only) and unischeme be tracked; how is up to you and if you want to be more intricate (such as tracking SP, WP, etc., is fine)[/quote]
I’m tracking some of that stuff – home and away, starting pitcher, day and night games, but with only nine games played and the alts used only once there’s not much of a story to tell yet.
[quote comment=”323626″]re: those burger chef baseball cards. in the cleveland area, the local pepsi bottler distributed cards that looked exactly like those featuring indians players. the card was attached (by perforation) to a smaller piece of paper that would loop over the neck of the old glass quart bottles. i think i have a dave laroche or charlie spikes somewhere at home.[/quote]
Those cards appeared in several guises back then. I have some of those same cards with a ‘Whiffleball’ affiliation, and some, IIRC, with Pepsi as the sponsor. I am sure there are others as well.
[quote comment=”323650″][quote comment=”323647″]Empty seats are a product of the “hey we need wider concourses so people can get to the gift shop, the radar guns, and the different in-stadium bars more easily” craze. JMHO.[/quote]
Empty seats on Monday were also the product of the “holy shit, it’s 36 degrees and raining; I’m gonna get my ass somewhere relatively dry and warm right now” craze.[/quote]
As in the new Capt. Morgan Club. And once that triangle building goes up, even more places to be “at the game” without being at the game.:-(
BTW, did you see the picture of the Capt Morgan area a few days ago? The few times I have been at Wrigley lately the area near Harry Caray’s statue has been a zoo. Fencing off part of the sidewalk there doesn’t seem like a good idea from a crowd control standpoint.
I’m watching White Sox-Tigers, and I really can’t get over how dumb an idea it is to make everybody wear the same number with no names on back. Names and numbers on uniforms were invented for a reason.
And while I’m linking, here are some photos from the Wood Brothers pit crew at the 1971 Daytona 500.
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Suspension IIRC.
Very popular company back in the era when your street rod just had to have the right parts for optimal performance. Hooker headers, Hurst transmission, Holly Carb, etc.
Re: Everyone wearing 42. There’s the probably apocryphal story about the Dodgers receiving a death threat against Jackie Robinson before a game. Pee Wee Reese suggested that they all wear 42 so that no one could tell which player was Jackie.
[quote comment=”323654″][quote comment=”323650″][quote comment=”323647″]Empty seats are a product of the “hey we need wider concourses so people can get to the gift shop, the radar guns, and the different in-stadium bars more easily” craze. JMHO.[/quote]
Empty seats on Monday were also the product of the “holy shit, it’s 36 degrees and raining; I’m gonna get my ass somewhere relatively dry and warm right now” craze.[/quote]
As in the new Capt. Morgan Club. And once that triangle building goes up, even more places to be “at the game” without being at the game.:-(
BTW, did you see the picture of the Capt Morgan area a few days ago? The few times I have been at Wrigley lately the area near Harry Caray’s statue has been a zoo. Fencing off part of the sidewalk there doesn’t seem like a good idea from a crowd control standpoint.[/quote]
I saw the picture of the pirate hat (as in tri-corner with feather, not the Pittsburgh variety) on the statue’s head but I didn’t see the crowd shots. It beats the hell out of a goat carcass, I suppose. The level of douchebaggery in and around the park has gotten ridiculous.
[quote comment=”323655″]I’m watching White Sox-Tigers, and I really can’t get over how dumb an idea it is to make everybody wear the same number with no names on back. Names and numbers on uniforms were invented for a reason.[/quote]
Exactly. The more ill-thought-out a “tribute” is, the quicker and more obviously it just becomes, well…dumb.
–Ricko
[quote comment=”323659″][quote comment=”323654″][quote comment=”323650″][quote comment=”323647″]Empty seats are a product of the “hey we need wider concourses so people can get to the gift shop, the radar guns, and the different in-stadium bars more easily” craze. JMHO.[/quote]
Empty seats on Monday were also the product of the “holy shit, it’s 36 degrees and raining; I’m gonna get my ass somewhere relatively dry and warm right now” craze.[/quote]
As in the new Capt. Morgan Club. And once that triangle building goes up, even more places to be “at the game” without being at the game.:-(
BTW, did you see the picture of the Capt Morgan area a few days ago? The few times I have been at Wrigley lately the area near Harry Caray’s statue has been a zoo. Fencing off part of the sidewalk there doesn’t seem like a good idea from a crowd control standpoint.[/quote]
I saw the picture of the pirate hat (as in tri-corner with feather, not the Pittsburgh variety) on the statue’s head but I didn’t see the crowd shots. It beats the hell out of a goat carcass, I suppose. The level of douchebaggery in and around the park has gotten ridiculous.[/quote]
Yup, generally speaking we’re about three beers shy of soccer hooliganism.
And, lord knows, that’s a mentality worth emulating, isn’t it.
“Hey, gang, let’s all go out to the park and show how stupid we are!”
[quote comment=”323659″]I saw the picture of the pirate hat (as in tri-corner with feather, not the Pittsburgh variety) on the statue’s head but I didn’t see the crowd shots. It beats the hell out of a goat carcass, I suppose. The level of douchebaggery in and around the park has gotten ridiculous.[/quote]
Sorry, I should have been more specific. It was a bit earlier than that. They were just finishing construction, but those outdoor tables (and fencing) seemed to take up a lot of room in that area.
[quote comment=”323610″]hey paul is that “best basketball jersey” pic Orrville High School in Ohio, home of THE Bobby Knight.[/quote]
Yes it is. Home of Bobby Knight and Smuckers Jelly.
[quote comment=”323661″]”Hey, gang, let’s all go out to the park and show how stupid we are!”[/quote]
Speaking as a Sox fan, my personal favorite at Wrigley is the guy who dresses (if that’s the correct term) up as a vine.
I guess he thinks its a cheap way to get women to rub up against him.
[quote comment=”323658″]Pee Wee Reese suggested that they all wear 42 so that no one could tell which player was Jackie.[/quote]
Sounds a bit like a Yogi-ism, doesn’t it? :-)
[quote comment=”323665″][quote comment=”323658″]Pee Wee Reese suggested that they all wear 42 so that no one could tell which player was Jackie.[/quote]
Sounds a bit like a Yogi-ism, doesn’t it? :-)[/quote]
not if you knew
pee weeharold henryreally, jackie & pee wee were brothers
/WTF is this???
153 comments, about half about post-season banners, and not ONE mention of the flag posts affixed to Wrigley Field’s roof decades ago so there would be a place to salute the world championships the team would win as the years passed.
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OK … maybe they’re NOT all used for World Series wins …
See #8 here …
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[quote comment=”323660″][quote comment=”323655″]I’m watching White Sox-Tigers, and I really can’t get over how dumb an idea it is to make everybody wear the same number with no names on back. Names and numbers on uniforms were invented for a reason.[/quote]
Exactly. The more ill-thought-out a “tribute” is, the quicker and more obviously it just becomes, well…dumb.
–Ricko[/quote]
On the plus side, the lack of NOBs make an already great-looking uni matchup even better. The less-cluttered jersey backs make it look a little nicer, IMO.
Hey, what’s wrong with link (other than the crap image quality)?
[quote comment=”323668″]what’s wrong with link (other than the crap image quality)?[/quote]
you don’t have a flat screen tv (or monitor)?
have not read the ticker or comments yet, but i have to react to the diy…
mr. clemence~
you wanted something, you couldn’t afford it, so you got clever and “made it” yourself, kudos to you for sticking it to those who prevented you from having it. and even though i might say you cheated a bit on the diy, the sewing for sure, it would have been unpossible for you to do this all yourself and have it look right, especially the patches. you did a bang-up job man, it looks great. seriously, if i was a gear head, i bet i would have a hard on for that, fantastic idea.
now i am not being critical here about your project, that rocks, and i know i use a lot of mr. boh in my work to represent bawlmer, but, um, isn’t a big part of the diy pleasure allowing yourself to make a garment that is logo/advert free? yet you have made a garment that is an advert. to me that is cRazY. i know, that is stock car racing, it is the team, so it makes sense, but it is just so upside down to me unless you are completely loyal to texaboro. i know, i know, it’s the team, your team, i get it, i just don’t get it, my mind, it, esplodees.
personally, i get my gas from the com-n-go, and roll my own bali shag fags, which i guess makes me a rival team, is there such a team? so what i am saying is if things like the brown bronco make ricko’s head splode, this, as much as i like what he made, would fall under the category of what makes my brain-pan melt down, a diy that is about adverts.
mr. c, don’t take my comment as critical about your diy, it is awesome for sure, or critical about nascar, love what you love and own it, i do the same…cat bowling, best. sport. ever. but i need to go find all the pieces of my skull that are scattered about my studio. 2/7, can you dispatch a UW medical team to chicago’s south side stat, i think one of my ears might have just killed a bobble.
[quote comment=”323669″][quote comment=”323668″]what’s wrong with link (other than the crap image quality)?[/quote]
you don’t have a flat screen tv (or monitor)?[/quote]
His batting helmet appears to be melting?
[quote comment=”323668″][quote comment=”323660″][quote comment=”323655″]I’m watching White Sox-Tigers, and I really can’t get over how dumb an idea it is to make everybody wear the same number with no names on back. Names and numbers on uniforms were invented for a reason.[/quote]
Exactly. The more ill-thought-out a “tribute” is, the quicker and more obviously it just becomes, well…dumb.
–Ricko[/quote]
On the plus side, the lack of NOBs make an already great-looking uni matchup even better. The less-cluttered jersey backs make it look a little nicer, IMO.
Hey, what’s wrong with link (other than the crap image quality)?[/quote]
Either:
1. White dot on the helmet?
2. They list him as #22 when he’s wearing #42?
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2. They list him as #22 when he’s wearing #42?[/quote]
Pay the man.
[quote comment=”323537″][quote comment=”323527″][quote]At one point, the MC of the shindigwalked past me…saw my DIY shirt and asked, “Where’d you get that?” When I told him that I made it, he just Harummphed and walked away![/quote]
maybe he’d have felt better if you’d actually dropped some coin on a brand new product that, ya know, paul had a hand in creating instead of ripping off a day after it was released for sale?
just a thought[/quote]
i dont wanna start any long discussion or argument or whatever about this, but what you said there sounds an aweful lot like a double standard. the way i read that is, if you do a DIY on a product made by a big company, you should be commended for it, but if you do it for a product made by a small company or an individual, you are “ripping them off.” i may have missed something in what you said tho, so really im just looking for clarification. when is DIY right and when is it wrong?[/quote]
when it is intellectual property you are ripping off. if you steal someone’s clever and claim it as your own, that is the line.
[quote comment=”323622″]Thanks for linking to my site on the 49ers logo.
I actually got a chance to talk with someone who has bought something from the NFL Shop and confirmed that that logo is available for some customized products and has been available for a year.
Looks like it’s not part of the new design.[/quote]
According to Donovan at the ColorWerx blog, that alt has been on their style sheets for a couple seasons.
He posted it on the Chris Creamer boarsds:
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And he confirms that “it’s not part of the new logo/uniform package.”
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2. They list him as #22 when he’s wearing #42?[/quote]
Pay the man.[/quote]
do they list every other player as four-deuce?
if so, then it’s wrong…otherwise, they’re just going by the roster
[quote comment=”323656″]And while I’m linking, here are some photos from the Wood Brothers pit crew at the 1971 Daytona 500.
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Thanks for the links Squiddie. My favorite was Gas man in action…no safety equipment whatsoever. I am surprised there isn’t a cigarette dangling from his mouth.
[quote comment=”323675″][quote comment=”323622″]Thanks for linking to my site on the 49ers logo.
I actually got a chance to talk with someone who has bought something from the NFL Shop and confirmed that that logo is available for some customized products and has been available for a year.
Looks like it’s not part of the new design.[/quote]
According to Donovan at the ColorWerx blog, that alt has been on their style sheets for a couple seasons.
He posted it on the Chris Creamer boarsds:
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And he confirms that “it’s not part of the new logo/uniform package.”[/quote]
Hopefully this is more of an indicator of what will be unveiled on Draft Day:
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[quote comment=”323676″][quote comment=”323673″][quote comment=”323672″]
2. They list him as #22 when he’s wearing #42?[/quote]
Pay the man.[/quote]
do they list every other player as four-deuce?
if so, then it’s wrong…otherwise, they’re just going by the roster[/quote]
I’m not saying it’s a mistake. I’m just pointing out the fact that they are indeed displaying the regular numbers despite the fact that everyone’s got #42 on today.
And the TV is indeed a flatscreen, and a mighty one at that. See how it link?
[quote comment=”323583″]When I saw the Dolphins’ aqua helmet, and read that it was going to be a league-wide alternate helmets concept, I thought of a pic I saw of Marvin Lewis in an office and a black with orange stripes helmet on a shelf. This sounds like one of those “negative” helmets. Does anyone have other reports or pics of these helmets?[/quote]
I grabbed this White Chiefs helmet from a KC dvd.
I do not know the story behind it. From sometime in the 1960’s
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Just a question in regards to Harry Kalas’s tribute patch the Phillies will be wearing for the rest of the season. I am a loyal reader of Uni Watch, but i haven’t seen any team put the patch on the left chest, over the heart, like this. Has that been done before?
[quote comment=”323656″]And while I’m linking, here are some photos from the Wood Brothers pit crew at the 1971 Daytona 500.
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Is there any sport’s uniform that has changed more, over a shorter period of time, than NASCAR pit crews? From slacks, ordinary shirts and greased hair to padding, helmets and high tech materials in just a couple of decades.
[quote comment=”323680″][quote comment=”323583″]When I saw the Dolphins’ aqua helmet, and read that it was going to be a league-wide alternate helmets concept, I thought of a pic I saw of Marvin Lewis in an office and a black with orange stripes helmet on a shelf. This sounds like one of those “negative” helmets. Does anyone have other reports or pics of these helmets?[/quote]
I grabbed this White Chiefs helmet from a KC dvd.
I do not know the story behind it. From sometime in the 1960’s
link
Whoa.
The Bengals conmparison falls a little flat, since that was a one-off created as a gift for Marvin Lewis, not anything intended for the players to wear on the field.
I saw Eddie Feigner at Youngstown’s Idora park when I was a kid and with my dad. Those stripes stood out to me at that time. Along with the incredible ability Eddie had and 4 man team. They were fun to watch.
I know we got a program or booklet about Eddie and the 4 man team. If only I knew where it was.
[quote comment=”323681″]Just a question in regards to Harry Kalas’s tribute patch the Phillies will be wearing for the rest of the season. I am a loyal reader of Uni Watch, but i haven’t seen any team put the patch on the left chest, over the heart, like this. Has that been done before?[/quote]
Just last week. The Angels did it for Nick Adenhart. Seems to be the way to go now.
[quote comment=”323615″]Y’all keep doing this Do It Yourself stuff, and you’re all gonna end up arrested like this dude:
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(picture is possibly NSFW for some of you)[/quote]
1. Who is Kenny Powers?
2. Obviously no relation.
3. Fabric marker on inexpensive cotton.
4. Phil can go scratch.
5. Thanks, Paul…I made the tee out of respect for you, Chris, D. Wright, and most of all, UW.
So why does the Lions’ 2009 draft hat use the old logo? If they’re changing the logo before the draft, then shouldn’t the draft cap have the new version?
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[quote comment=”323679″][quote comment=”323676″][quote comment=”323673″][quote comment=”323672″]
2. They list him as #22 when he’s wearing #42?[/quote]
Pay the man.[/quote]
do they list every other player as four-deuce?
if so, then it’s wrong…otherwise, they’re just going by the roster[/quote]
I’m not saying it’s a mistake. I’m just pointing out the fact that they are indeed displaying the regular numbers despite the fact that everyone’s got #42 on today.
And the TV is indeed a flatscreen, and a mighty one at that. See how it link?[/quote]
OHMUHGAWD, YOU’RE RIGHT! THAT’S THE BIGGEST HONKIN’ TOASTER OVEN I’VE EVER SEEN!!!! MONSTROUS. WHERE’D YOU FIND THAT SUCKER, BEST BUY?
—Ricko.
To further elaborate on both the Moog comment and the comment about Nascar changing so quickly…
Moog is a long-time Nascar sponsor, and they manufacture chassis parts for cars. You can see them still on all the front bumpers of the cars in the top 3 Nascar series, including this picture. Speaking of the picture, this is the same Wood Brothers Racing team from the previous picture, this one from February of this year in Daytona, FL.
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[quote comment=”323686″]1. Who is Kenny Powers?[/quote]
here
/scratching
[quote comment=”323690″][quote comment=”323686″]1. Who is Kenny Powers?[/quote]
link
/scratching[/quote]
no way, is that a joke?! it couldn’t be more perfect that he was wearing that “jersey” in that picture.
[quote comment=”323573″]Man, that Dolphins helmet is hideous![/quote]
TOTALLY AGREED ….
The dark Dolphins helmet is HIDEOUS !!!
And I feel EXACTLY the same about the Saints Black pants, the Lions and Colts Blue pants, and many others’ dark pants.
Have a uniform and RESPECT the uniform.
Can you imagine the Cowboys or the Raiders or the Packers with dark pants – it would be hideous and a blasphemy. Every other team should learn from the uni examples.
more renderings of future Miami Marlins ballpark released.
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[quote comment=”323639″]The problems with the alternate helmets are that the alternate color is usually used in the logo on the helmet so it blends in, like the Dolphins helmet. Also fans don’t buy helmets like they do jerseys. That’s probably the real reason the NFL wasn’t interested.[/quote]
I agree with what you said about the color of the helmet in relation to the color of the decal. Yet, I think the NFL would find a way to sell an alternate helmet lickty split if they implemented an alt. helmet color for every team;i.e. mini helmet products galore, alt. helmets on numerous apparel etc. My guess is that they feel it would simply get out of hand, being that the helmet is such a strong branding symbol for a team’s current identity.
[quote comment=”323692″][quote comment=”323573″]Man, that Dolphins helmet is hideous![/quote]
TOTALLY AGREED ….
The dark Dolphins helmet is HIDEOUS !!!
And I feel EXACTLY the same about the Saints Black pants, the Lions and Colts Blue pants, and many others’ dark pants.
Have a uniform and RESPECT the uniform.
Can you imagine the Cowboys or the Raiders or the Packers with dark pants – it would be hideous and a blasphemy. Every other team should learn from the uni examples.[/quote]
Not the biggest fan of the really dark pants either. Yet, what I really hate are the shiny spandex/nylon/poly pants. Now, totally dig the matte grays the Giant’s wear.
[quote comment=”323647″][quote comment=”323645″]I am a Yankee fan, and this guy is embarrassing me. Leave homophobia out of your rants, guy. The Rays went to the WS and they have every right to display their banners. And if you think they’re a flash in the pan and they’re going away this year, you’re kidding yourself.[/quote]
FWLIW, the Cubs announced a sellout the other day (and they probably will have upwards of 70-75 sellouts at a minimum this year) and you could clearly see empty seats there.
Empty seats are a product of the “hey we need wider concourses so people can get to the gift shop, the radar guns, and the different in-stadium bars more easily” craze. JMHO.[/quote]
[quote comment=”323676″][quote comment=”323673″][quote comment=”323672″]
2. They list him as #22 when he’s wearing #42?[/quote]
Pay the man.[/quote]
do they list every other player as four-deuce?
if so, then it’s wrong…otherwise, they’re just going by the roster[/quote]
From what I have seen, WGN is listing their “normal” numbers.
You could also find very similar airbrushed-cap headshots on cans of RC Cola in the late 70s. I wonder if the MLBPA put together a standard package of photos for all their licensees to use….
[quote comment=”323696″][quote comment=”323647″][quote comment=”323645″]I am a Yankee fan, and this guy is embarrassing me. Leave homophobia out of your rants, guy. The Rays went to the WS and they have every right to display their banners. And if you think they’re a flash in the pan and they’re going away this year, you’re kidding yourself.[/quote]
FWLIW, the Cubs announced a sellout the other day (and they probably will have upwards of 70-75 sellouts at a minimum this year) and you could clearly see empty seats there.
Empty seats are a product of the “hey we need wider concourses so people can get to the gift shop, the radar guns, and the different in-stadium bars more easily” craze. JMHO.[/quote]
[quote comment=”323676″][quote comment=”323673″][quote comment=”323672″]
2. They list him as #22 when he’s wearing #42?[/quote]
Pay the man.[/quote]
do they list every other player as four-deuce?
if so, then it’s wrong…otherwise, they’re just going by the roster[/quote]
From what I have seen, WGN is listing their “normal” numbers.[/quote]
As is CSN Chicago on the Cubs/Colo. game.
[quote comment=”323681″]Just a question in regards to Harry Kalas’s tribute patch the Phillies will be wearing for the rest of the season. I am a loyal reader of Uni Watch, but i haven’t seen any team put the patch on the left chest, over the heart, like this. Has that been done before?[/quote]
Three times, I believe:
– Pirates patch for Mayor Bob O’Connor (2003-ish)
– Brewers patch for the ironworkers killed during the construction of Miller Park (1999)
– Angels’ current patch for Nick Adenhart
— Paul
The good people at UW have made the hockey pool a success! Still accepting entries if anyone wants to show off their prognostication skills. :o)
In other news, that toaster oven looks like it could cook a Panormous Domino’s Pizza Mets’ patch. LOL
i’m watching the royals/indians game today and i’m sorry but the whole “everybody wear 42” deal is just pissing me off.
This whole 42 thing might have been better if the teams that wore NOBs actually still wore NOBs. For your Yankees-esque NNOB teams, your screwed, but teams like the Rays could still have “Pena” or “Crawford,” to make it a bit easier on the fans. Especially if they screw with things and put Nick Swisher on the mound again.
Sun Sports, who is broadcasting the Rays/Yankees game, is showing every player as 42 on their graphics.
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[quote comment=”323700″]In other news, that toaster oven looks like it could cook a Panormous Domino’s Pizza Mets’ patch. LOL[/quote]
Teebz, sounds like you might have consumed one or two of those pizza in your time. :-)
One of my guilty pleasures too (not Domino’s, but another greasy pie).
[quote comment=”323618″]Folks, just for the record…
Playoffs vs Postseason.
The NHL, NBA & NHL have Playoffs.
MLB officially has a Postseason, the only playoff games in MLB occur when the regular season finishes with two teams that are tied, and one needs to move on to the postseason.
The Yankees – Red Sox game of 1978 is probably the most famous “playoff” example – but a MLB playoff game is considered a regular season game.
I would think that UniWatch could be the one place where the terms are used correctly!!![/quote]
Not quite. The Super Bowl is a postseason game, not a playoff game. And the MLB postseason games that occur after the regular season (163d game included if necessary) is over and before the World Series starts are playoff games. Only until recently did people stop referring to the NL or AL playoffs” in reference to the NLCS or ALCS (or division playoffs in 1981, the strike year).
[quote comment=”323704″][quote comment=”323700″]In other news, that toaster oven looks like it could cook a Panormous Domino’s Pizza Mets’ patch. LOL[/quote]
Teebz, sounds like you might have consumed one or two of those pizza in your time. :-)
One of my guilty pleasures too (not Domino’s, but another greasy pie).[/quote]
Honestly, there isn’t a Domino’s within 20 miles of my Canadian residence. It does, however, feed a group of hungry athletes very well while traveling. LOL
[quote comment=”323702″]This whole 42 thing might have been better if the teams that wore NOBs actually still wore NOBs. For your Yankees-esque NNOB teams, your screwed, but teams like the Rays could still have “Pena” or “Crawford,” to make it a bit easier on the fans. Especially if they screw with things and put Nick Swisher on the mound again.[/quote]
And Rivera is sitting in a corner wondering what the fuss is about…
“Nicely done” ?!? You mean theft of intellectual property? Purchase of counterfeit patches? What?
A story to make PL’s head explode, and here it is..
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Nike To Produce Jackie Robinson Tribute Shoes
[quote comment=”323675″][quote comment=”323622″]Thanks for linking to my site on the 49ers logo.
I actually got a chance to talk with someone who has bought something from the NFL Shop and confirmed that that logo is available for some customized products and has been available for a year.
Looks like it’s not part of the new design.[/quote]
According to Donovan at the ColorWerx blog, that alt has been on their style sheets for a couple seasons.
He posted it on the Chris Creamer boarsds:
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And he confirms that “it’s not part of the new logo/uniform package.”[/quote]
They’ve never used it. Ever. At least not at the game or in local media. Not once.
[quote comment=”323708″]”Nicely done” ?!? You mean theft of intellectual property? Purchase of counterfeit patches?
What?[/quote]
Calm down, dude. He’s not selling it, not profiting off it. We’ve already covered this: Making your own jersey for your own personal use is no different than doodling your favorite team’s logo on sheet of paper and then taping that paper to the fridge. Both are perfectly legal.
[quote comment=”323709″]A story to make PL’s head explode, and here it is..
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Nike To Produce Jackie Robinson Tribute Shoes[/quote]
At least they aren’t purple.
[quote comment=”323649″]Some softball uniforms from the Life archives. They’re in a big cache titled Softball. (Not too imaginative.) These are dated from 1949. There’s a photo of a WXYZ camera so they may be from Detroit.
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And to follow up on a previous discussion
link[/quote]
Pretty cool vintage softball jersey available here:
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[quote comment=”323709″]A story to make PL’s head explode, and here it is..
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Nike To Produce Jackie Robinson Tribute Shoes[/quote]
in a related story, powers just changed his pants
[quote comment=”323703″]Sun Sports, who is broadcasting the Rays/Yankees game, is showing every player as 42 on their graphics.
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fox sports-kansas city is doing the same thing
[quote comment=”323713″][quote comment=”323649″]Some softball uniforms from the Life archives. They’re in a big cache titled Softball. (Not too imaginative.) These are dated from 1949. There’s a photo of a WXYZ camera so they may be from Detroit.
link
link
link
link
link
link
link
link
link
And to follow up on a previous discussion
link[/quote]
Pretty cool vintage softball jersey available here:
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Any Neil Diamond fans in the house?
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I’m ambivalent about having all the players wear #42 today, but it just dawned on me that the umpires are also doing it. That’s just fucking stupid.
Kind of hard to see here, but the Dallas Stars have separate banners for winning their division, Presidents’ trophy, conference, and Stanley Cup
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[quote comment=”323714″][quote comment=”323709″]A story to make PL’s head explode, and here it is..
link
Nike To Produce Jackie Robinson Tribute Shoes[/quote]
in a related story, powers just changed his pants[/quote]
To rebut, they are very cool.
As for the Jackie Robinson day tribute, I forgot about it until I turned on the Yankee/Rays game and saw Mariano Rivera attempting a bunt that the catcher almost made a miraculous catch of.
Another interesting observation:
The above mentioned game seemed to me moving
v e r y s l o w l y.
In contrast to the FSNY that was broadcasting the Mets Classic clinching of the NL East in 88 against the Phillies, clad in baby blue and maroon, the modern pace is sloth like.
Pitcher pitches,
Catcher snaps the throw back to him
Batter takes a quick practice swing…WHILE IN THE BOX!
On the Mound, next pitch.
Plus, the players were som much more streamlined…thin…athletic!
Wouldn’t it be more meaningful if individual players could commemorate Jackie Robinson every day by wearing 42, but alas only Mariano Riveria can, and when he retires there will be none. Unretire 42!
[quote comment=”323709″]A story to make PL’s head explode, and here it is..
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Nike To Produce Jackie Robinson Tribute Shoes[/quote]
Granderson was wearing those today. Looked pretty odd with the Tigers home uni.
But hey…an opportunity to make a buck
[quote comment=”323714″][quote comment=”323709″]A story to make PL’s head explode, and here it is..
link
Nike To Produce Jackie Robinson Tribute Shoes[/quote]
in a related story, powers just changed his pants[/quote]
From Niketalk,
“Today is Jackie Robinson day in Major League Baseball. Everyone will be wearing No. 42 on the field, but The Kid and a few other athletes will give their footwear a special touch, as seen above. In addition to Griffey Jr., Jimmy Rollins, Torii Hunter, Carl Crawford, Ryan Braun, Orlando Hudson, Curtis Granderson, Cameron Maybin, Adam Jones, Billy Hall, Derrek Lee and David Wright will rock these kicks. “
Nice…
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perhaps the only more fitting tribute to mr. robinson’s legacy than every player and umpire wearing 42 is to have some of them donning special edition nike kicks
somewhere up in heaven jackie is looking down and smiling; im sure he wouldn’t have envisioned it any other way
[quote comment=”323672″][quote comment=”323668″][quote comment=”323660″][quote comment=”323655″]I’m watching White Sox-Tigers, and I really can’t get over how dumb an idea it is to make everybody wear the same number with no names on back. Names and numbers on uniforms were invented for a reason.[/quote]
Exactly. The more ill-thought-out a “tribute” is, the quicker and more obviously it just becomes, well…dumb.
–Ricko[/quote]
On the plus side, the lack of NOBs make an already great-looking uni matchup even better. The less-cluttered jersey backs make it look a little nicer, IMO.
Hey, what’s wrong with link (other than the crap image quality)?[/quote]
Either:
1. White dot on the helmet?
2. They list him as #22 when he’s wearing #42?[/quote]
c’mon, everybody knows that the white dot shows that only he has the in helmet radio to listen to the manager……
(couldn’t find the “bah dum ching” website)
[quote comment=”323726″](couldn’t find the “bah dum ching” website)[/quote]
bookmark it ;)
[quote comment=”323727″][quote comment=”323726″](couldn’t find the “bah dum ching” website)[/quote]
link ;)[/quote]
I went to bookmark it and already had it :-P
[quote comment=”323727″][quote comment=”323726″](couldn’t find the “bah dum ching” website)[/quote]
link ;)[/quote]
And for not being able to find it, link is definitely in order.
[quote comment=”323728″][quote comment=”323727″][quote comment=”323726″](couldn’t find the “bah dum ching” website)[/quote]
link ;)[/quote]
I went to bookmark it and already had it :-P[/quote]
Oh, that definitely calls for a link.
I find it very cool to see all of the Arizona 42s in the sunlight.
[quote comment=”323729″][quote comment=”323727″][quote comment=”323726″](couldn’t find the “bah dum ching” website)[/quote]
link ;)[/quote]
And for not being able to find it, link is definitely in order.[/quote]
d’oh
Boston Bruins
Stanley Cups in yellow, division in white, presidents trophy in black.
In Boston Garden, they had a (yellow) banner for each division championship. The single banners with years listed are a great improvement.
And if you dig back far enough, you can find photos where the Celtics had green Eastern Division championship banners as well as the white league championships. I suppose those went away when they ran out of room. (The Celtics were very much the secondary tenant in the old Garden.)
Hopefully all the people that complain about Nike logo creep watched the soccer games today. Villareal has just on the shirt, a Puma logo on the chest and one on each shoulder. Way more creepy!
[quote comment=”323725″]perhaps the only more fitting tribute to mr. robinson’s legacy than every player and umpire wearing 42 is to have some of them donning special edition nike kicks
somewhere up in heaven jackie is looking down and smiling; im sure he wouldn’t have envisioned it any other way[/quote]
Ah yes, nice to know that there was a lot of invictive hurled (and perhaps a little extra physicality) all so that a large corporation could make a few extra $$.
I repeat my argument to downsize this whole thing.
[quote comment=”323706″]Honestly, there isn’t a Domino’s within 20 miles of my Canadian residence.[/quote]
Lucky you. Quit your bragging!!
:-)
I heard their will be some sort of new uniform for the 49ers unvieled on the 25th. I would be willing to post a photo of my new Lions logo hat when I get it Tuesday.
Right now MLB considers all games played after the regular season is over as postseason games… I suppose its more a matter of semantic more than anything..
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MLB indicates that the ALCS and NLCS were called playoffs between 1969 – 1981/82-ish – I was around back then and I always remember the term postseason being used.
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[quote comment=”323712″][quote comment=”323709″]A story to make PL’s head explode, and here it is..
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Nike To Produce Jackie Robinson Tribute Shoes[/quote]
At least they aren’t purple.[/quote]
Right, because Jackie was noted for wearing high tops. That was his trademark.
Like Lew Alcindor’s baggy, below-the-knee-shorts at UCLA.
(eyeroll)
Screw any kind of appreciation for era-accuracy, or actual relevance to the particular player. We’ll just say something was a certain way and that will make it so…because we said it was so. And then we’ll unilaterally declare it cool and fitting.
I am SO tired of that attitude.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”323717″]I’m ambivalent about having all the players wear #42 today, but it just dawned on me that the umpires are also doing it. That’s just fucking stupid.[/quote]
Why? There are maybe three fans in the entire country who can identify even one ump by number, so what’s the difference? No confusion factor, no harm, no foul.
[quote comment=”323737″]I heard their will be some sort of new uniform for the 49ers unvieled on the 25th. I would be willing to post a photo of my new Lions logo hat when I get it Tuesday.[/quote]
The 49ers are hosting a draft party at their facilities and they will unveil their new uniforms a couple hours before the Draft begins.
I just saw highlights of the Cubs game, and they showed the high fives at the end of the game and I’m 99% sure I saw a catcher wearing #18. The Rockies catcher wears #20, so maybe it was a bullpen catcher? If anyone has any way of checking (MLB.tv maybe, or just keep your eyes peeled during highlights) it’d be interesting/odd if someone wasn’t wearing #42.
The Texas Rangers are wearing their Blue caps with their Home Whites tonight.
Blue caps, Blue sleeves, Blue socks
And it appears that Saltalamacchia is brim-forward again tonight
[quote comment=”323738″]Right now MLB considers all games played after the regular season is over as postseason games… I suppose its more a matter of semantic more than anything..
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MLB indicates that the ALCS and NLCS were called playoffs between 1969 – 1981/82-ish – I was around back then and I always remember the term postseason being used.
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Until the early 1980’s, baseball really jumped around on the LCS/Playoff thing. They has “League Championship Series” in the very first year (1969), I confirmed this in the 1970 Sporting News’ Baseball Guide.
In 1972 the Yanks produced tickets with LCS (not used): link
In ’76, the clubs no longer were printing their own but using a standard company and design, still with LCS: link
And in 1978 the tickets had Playoffs: link
So there is really is no “baseball called it this”
Adam Jones of the Orioles is wearing the Jackie shoes…not a good look with the O’s unis.
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[quote comment=”323617″]Paul, have you ever done a post about other hat manufacturers besides New Era? I know they are the “official on field cap of MLB” but other companies (Wilson, Roman Cap Co.) used to make caps for teams. Have you(or anyone else) ever covered this or have any info? Thanks.[/quote]
Well, here’s a start:
Current (or reasonably current) New Era: link
New Era leather band: link
SportsSpecialties (late ‘80’s early ‘90’s MLB supplier, especially Mets, Padres): link
Wilson Sporting Goods (1970’s and earlier supplier, many clubs): link
McAulliffe (1970’s and earlier supplier, especially Red Sox):
[quote comment=”323747″][quote comment=”323617″]Paul, have you ever done a post about other hat manufacturers besides New Era? I know they are the “official on field cap of MLB” but other companies (Wilson, Roman Cap Co.) used to make caps for teams. Have you(or anyone else) ever covered this or have any info? Thanks.[/quote]
Well, here’s a start:
Current (or reasonably current) New Era: link
New Era leather band: link
SportsSpecialties (late ‘80’s early ‘90’s MLB supplier, especially Mets, Padres): link
Wilson Sporting Goods (1970’s and earlier supplier, many clubs): link
McAulliffe (1970’s and earlier supplier, especially Red Sox): link
[/quote]
Left off the last link
[quote comment=”323577″][quote comment=”323567″][quote comment=”323556″]
When you’ve won as many Stanley Cups as Montreal, you don’t have much room for other banners. In the case of the Canadians, they don’t have a banner for the division and conference titles, because it would simply be way too cluttered. If I’m not mistaken, everyone else displays the full spectrum of banners.[/quote]
Bingo. But the Rays and White Sox have plenty of room for all of their championship banners, so they display them. There is no “this is how it’s done in the NHL” type of a rule, just like there’s no “this is the way it is in baseball” rule. The number of banners displayed is probably just inversely proportional to the number of championships you’ve won.[/quote]
Thats why baseball color codes everything[/quote]
I realize this comment has been duly mocked, but please allow me to add a WTF?
R.I.P., Merle Harmon.
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East Coasters, he was a Jets announcer in the ’60s, wasn’t he?
I have fond memories of listening to Merle Harmon call Rangers games on TV here in the 80s.
Also used to shop at Merle Harmon’s Fan fair.
[quote comment=”323748″][quote comment=”323747″][quote comment=”323617″]Paul, have you ever done a post about other hat manufacturers besides New Era? I know they are the “official on field cap of MLB” but other companies (Wilson, Roman Cap Co.) used to make caps for teams. Have you(or anyone else) ever covered this or have any info? Thanks.[/quote]
Well, here’s a start:
Current (or reasonably current) New Era: link
New Era leather band: link
SportsSpecialties (late ‘80’s early ‘90’s MLB supplier, especially Mets, Padres): link
Wilson Sporting Goods (1970’s and earlier supplier, many clubs): link
McAulliffe (1970’s and earlier supplier, especially Red Sox): link
[/quote]
Left off the last link[/quote]
American Needle is another company that makes decent caps.
Also used to shop at Merle Harmon’s Fan fair.
Me too, u2-horn. There weren’t too many places like that where I lived in the late ’70s and early ’80s. I loved going there.
[quote comment=”323729″][quote comment=”323727″][quote comment=”323726″](couldn’t find the “bah dum ching” website)[/quote]
link ;)[/quote]
And for not being able to find it, link is definitely in order.[/quote]
bookmarked as well!
[quote comment=”323699″][quote comment=”323681″]Just a question in regards to Harry Kalas’s tribute patch the Phillies will be wearing for the rest of the season. I am a loyal reader of Uni Watch, but i haven’t seen any team put the patch on the left chest, over the heart, like this. Has that been done before?[/quote]
Three times, I believe:
– Pirates patch for Mayor Bob O’Connor (2003-ish)
– Brewers patch for the ironworkers killed during the construction of Miller Park (1999)
– Angels’ current patch for Nick Adenhart
— Paul[/quote]
Here is a picture of Geoff Jenkins wearing the chest patch for the ironworkers killed in building Miller Park:
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The Patch on the chest looks like this:
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This was the patch on the right sleeve:
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[quote comment=”323755″][quote comment=”323699″][quote comment=”323681″]Just a question in regards to Harry Kalas’s tribute patch the Phillies will be wearing for the rest of the season. I am a loyal reader of Uni Watch, but i haven’t seen any team put the patch on the left chest, over the heart, like this. Has that been done before?[/quote]
Three times, I believe:
– Pirates patch for Mayor Bob O’Connor (2003-ish)
– Brewers patch for the ironworkers killed during the construction of Miller Park (1999)
– Angels’ current patch for Nick Adenhart
— Paul[/quote]
Here is a picture of Geoff Jenkins wearing the chest patch for the ironworkers killed in building Miller Park:
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The Patch on the chest looks like this:
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This was the patch on the right sleeve:
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And for those not aware, that patch for County Stadium featured the house that Bernie Brewer slid down after every Brewer home run:
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I just heard the last of the Mets-Pads game on WFAN, and the Jackie tribute lent some confusion to the proceedings. With two outs in the ninth, the Pads sent a pinch hitter into the on-deck circle. I assume the Pads go NNOB because Howie Rose could only refer to the player as “someone wearing number 42.”
Remember these?
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According to this article the design is coming to the STL Arch for this year’s All-Star Game.
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[quote comment=”323752″][quote comment=”323748″][quote comment=”323747″][quote comment=”323617″]Paul, have you ever done a post about other hat manufacturers besides New Era? I know they are the “official on field cap of MLB” but other companies (Wilson, Roman Cap Co.) used to make caps for teams. Have you(or anyone else) ever covered this or have any info? Thanks.[/quote]
Well, here’s a start:
Current (or reasonably current) New Era: link
New Era leather band: link
SportsSpecialties (late ‘80’s early ‘90’s MLB supplier, especially Mets, Padres): link
Wilson Sporting Goods (1970’s and earlier supplier, many clubs): link
McAulliffe (1970’s and earlier supplier, especially Red Sox): link
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American Needle is another company that makes decent caps.[/quote]
yes they do. Also Roman Pro although I’ve never seen either on something game used. Doesn’t mean they weren’t club suppliers, but it’s usually the first thing I look at with caps on display and never seen their tags on gamers. Would love to see ‘em if anyone’s got ‘em.
[quote comment=”323758″]Remember these?
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According to this article the design is coming to the STL Arch for this year’s All-Star Game.
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I can’t wait for 2010! link
HARRY KALLAS PHILLIES PATCH link
New Mississippi State football uniforms:
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[quote comment=”323750″]R.I.P., Merle Harmon.
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East Coasters, he was a Jets announcer in the ’60s, wasn’t he?[/quote]
He did the Twins for while, too. And his photo was here just the other day in a screen grab from the first-ever WFL telecast.
To make it uni-related, I remember later that season when the Southern California Sun were on TV for the first time he said their colors were “margenta” and orange.
—Ricko
[quote comment=”323740″][quote comment=”323717″]I’m ambivalent about having all the players wear #42 today, but it just dawned on me that the umpires are also doing it. That’s just fucking stupid.[/quote]
Why? There are maybe three fans in the entire country who can identify even one ump by number, so what’s the difference? No confusion factor, no harm, no foul.[/quote]
Paul;
Just how pissed are the equipment managers, having to change #42 onto every single jersey for one game?
[quote comment=”323753″]Also used to shop at Merle Harmon’s Fan fair.
Me too, u2-horn. There weren’t too many places like that where I lived in the late ’70s and early ’80s. I loved going there.[/quote]
merle Harmon’s FanFair! I remember them! Were they everywhere? I lived in Dallas for a bit early 70;s…was it a Texas thing?
Cal State Fullerton Baseball lookin classy….all of em!
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[quote comment=”323764″][quote comment=”323740″][quote comment=”323717″]I’m ambivalent about having all the players wear #42 today, but it just dawned on me that the umpires are also doing it. That’s just fucking stupid.[/quote]
Why? There are maybe three fans in the entire country who can identify even one ump by number, so what’s the difference? No confusion factor, no harm, no foul.[/quote]
Paul;
Just how pissed are the equipment managers, having to change #42 onto every single jersey for one game?[/quote]
Probably new one-game jerseys in the appropriate players’ sizes. Then likely shipped off to the auction house so MLB can make a profit and/or raise charity money.
[quote comment=”323765″][quote comment=”323753″]Also used to shop at Merle Harmon’s Fan fair.
Me too, u2-horn. There weren’t too many places like that where I lived in the late ’70s and early ’80s. I loved going there.[/quote]
merle Harmon’s FanFair! I remember them! Were they everywhere? I lived in Dallas for a bit early 70;s…was it a Texas thing?[/quote]
Here’s an old SI article about it–it eventually had 140 locations across the country. I also used to get jersey’s at Brad Sham’s Big League Threads down at Walnut Hill/Greenville.
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oops, jerseys
[quote comment=”323768″][quote comment=”323765″][quote comment=”323753″]Also used to shop at Merle Harmon’s Fan fair.
Me too, u2-horn. There weren’t too many places like that where I lived in the late ’70s and early ’80s. I loved going there.[/quote]
merle Harmon’s FanFair! I remember them! Were they everywhere? I lived in Dallas for a bit early 70;s…was it a Texas thing?[/quote]
Here’s an old SI article about it–it eventually had 140 locations across the country. I also used to get jersey’s at Brad Sham’s Big League Threads down at Walnut Hill/Greenville.
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Brad Sham! The Voice of the Cowboys. All comin’ back to me now. Lived in North Dallas near the Towne North YMCA and NorthPark.
No point in mocking the Rays for their dual banners this year. Keep in mind that UNC raises a banner for every tournament APPEARANCE. Needless to say, there are a lot of banners hanging in the Dean Dome.
So does NCSU. Quite a few in the RBC Center where the Hurricanes and Wolfpack share space.
Brewers wore a “HK” patch for Harvey Kuenn when he died in 1988:
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The Alaska baseball uni’s of amazing…
i went to the blue jays vs twins game tonight. while the tribute to jackie robinson is great, it was extremely confusing with every single player wearing 42. i was up in the cheap seats (because i’m a college student) which made it even worse because the only way i can identify players from up there is by uni number. i think they should go back to the optional 42 jersey days. plus, it was terribly painful to see 42 written on the back of the blue jays jerseys in that weird font.
Here is a picture of Ryan Braun tonight wearing the special “Jackie Robinson Nike cleats”:
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Oh, and LI Phil… does this count as a “white jersey win” for the Crew? Or should I put this in a while separate category?
[quote comment=”323759″][quote comment=”323752″][quote comment=”323748″][quote comment=”323747″][quote comment=”323617″]Paul, have you ever done a post about other hat manufacturers besides New Era? I know they are the “official on field cap of MLB” but other companies (Wilson, Roman Cap Co.) used to make caps for teams. Have you(or anyone else) ever covered this or have any info? Thanks.[/quote]
Well, here’s a start:
Current (or reasonably current) New Era: link
New Era leather band: link
SportsSpecialties (late ‘80’s early ‘90’s MLB supplier, especially Mets, Padres): link
Wilson Sporting Goods (1970’s and earlier supplier, many clubs): link
McAulliffe (1970’s and earlier supplier, especially Red Sox): link
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Left off the last link[/quote]
American Needle is another company that makes decent caps.[/quote]
yes they do. Also Roman Pro although I’ve never seen either on something game used. Doesn’t mean they weren’t club suppliers, but it’s usually the first thing I look at with caps on display and never seen their tags on gamers. Would love to see ‘em if anyone’s got ‘em.[/quote]
Just remember something I read here sometime back. Roman bought McAuliffe and that became Roman Pro (or something like that). I know when the Sox were in the ’86 Series they were wearing caps that just by the shape were not New Era, so they probably were Roman Pro.
[quote comment=”323775″]LI Phil… does this count as a “white jersey win” for the Crew? Or should I put this in a while separate category?[/quote]
well…i’m putting an asterisk (*) next to this one in my book…although im still recording it as “snow whites” “black/blue caps” for the uni combo (which is what they wore monday)
[quote comment=”323752″][quote comment=”323748″][quote comment=”323747″][quote comment=”323617″]Paul, have you ever done a post about other hat manufacturers besides New Era? I know they are the “official on field cap of MLB” but other companies (Wilson, Roman Cap Co.) used to make caps for teams. Have you(or anyone else) ever covered this or have any info? Thanks.[/quote]
Well, here’s a start:
Current (or reasonably current) New Era: link
New Era leather band: link
SportsSpecialties (late ‘80’s early ‘90’s MLB supplier, especially Mets, Padres): link
Wilson Sporting Goods (1970’s and earlier supplier, many clubs): link
McAulliffe (1970’s and earlier supplier, especially Red Sox): link
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Left off the last link[/quote]
American Needle is another company that makes decent caps.[/quote]
Roman Pro was another cap maker.
oops…I meant to finish with: that supplied the Mets with caps back in the early 1980’s.
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Doesn’t the the “wild card era” kinda necessitate defining division championships and league championships? You can win your league without winning your division. In a division as tough as the AL East, I would damn well make sure people knew that 2008 wasn’t due to making the playoffs via the wild card. I guess the Braves would have to come up with another color to delinate wild cards should they ever win one; all of their playoff appearances are via division titles. Yellow w/ blue = division title
Yellow w/ red = national league pennant
Red w/ blue = world championship
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It hasn’t happened yet, but what will the Braves do when they run out of room for those flags? Will they go above to that green piece below those ads and scoreboard? It looks like that’s the only place.
On a different note, I was lucky enough to twice see Eddie Feigner and the King & His Court 4 man team. Such an entertaining show. Go see them, even though the King is gone.
So… just to chime in on this:
“You’re supposed to display the banner of the highest level you reach,” says Tyler. “And just one, not two. Guess they’re new at this.”
Not sure who made Kepner the official championship banner authority, but I’ve never heard of such a “rule.” The Rays can do whatever they want to celebrate the title. Back in the day when the AL and NL were separate entities, winning “the pennant” meant something. I’d hate to think a league championship was something to hide just because you went a step further.
I believe the St. Louis Cardinals — in Busch II — used to have all of their division titles and league titles displayed as painted pennants on the tops of the dugouts. The WS titles were real flags in center field’s upper deck. They’ve won the most WS of any NL team, and yet they chose to display all of the division titles as well, so so much for the “being new” concept and what you’re “supposed” to do.
You win a title — any title — you earn the right to celebrate it any way you choose. Otherwise, why have them?
[quote comment=”323536″]Leave to the DEVILED EGGS of Tampa, the Cinderella of 2008 to screw up something as nice and simple as championship banner. You know why they put up 2 banners? 1st off, you guys are right, to rub it in our faces and the chowda heads…but also to remind the people of Tampa that they will be the only success they will EVER have in baseball… I saw that home opener the other night and while the GAYS annoucers claimed that the game was a sell out, you could CLEARLY see many seats EMPTY…
They had a fluke last year, they may break 500 this year, but they are FAR from being a threat…to any one…
Putting up a banner for a division championship…how come the Marlins dont have Wild Card Banners in JRS from there 2 WS?[/quote]
A sellout has nothing to do with empty seats, you can have a sellout and have no one at the game.
RE: Rays Banners
This is what hangs in the St. Pete Times Forum, home of the Lightning:
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Guess us sports fans in Tampa just do things different.