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Grab This: The Larry Bodnovich Files, Vol. 1

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One problem with this site, if you want to call it a problem, is that I’m sometimes inundated with more great material than I can post. This means some stuff inevitably gets back-burnered, which I always feel guilty about. David Frost, I’m sorry I haven’t gotten to you yet — soon, I promise. Ditto for you, Ned Paynter. But the person to whom I owe the biggest apology is Larry Bodnovich, who’s been sending me tons — and I mean tons — of amazing stuff over the past six weeks. Today I’m finally going to give him the first of what I expect to be many, many star turns. (Note: If any of the links in this piece give you trouble, try adding a space to the end of the URL and then hit enter. If that doesn’t work, copy/paste the URL back into your browser and hit enter. And if that doesn’t work, copy/paste into a NEW browser window.)

Larry specializes in screen grabs from vintage football footage. I’ll let him explain:

My brother and I have been collecting DVDs of old games for a while. We’re part of a group of people who trade this type of material. We have other sports besides football, but football is our favorite.

Some of these DVDs commercially produced, and some are game tapes or films that somebody has done. They are in color, sort of like ‘When it was a Game.’ Some are highlights or team histories, and some are complete games in color. Some are silent, and some have had play-by-play dubbed in.

Larry has sent me loads of college gridiron shots, but today we’re going with some NFL material. And not from any random NFL game, either — Larry got his hands on the famous Vikings/Lions game from 1964. That’s the game when the Vikes wore white at home but the Lions didn’t get the memo, because they showed up with their own white jerseys, creating a white-on-white mishmash that must have been very confusing for the quarterbacks (and probably the fans, too). So the decision was made to have the Vikes switch to their purple jerseys, which they changed into right there on the sideline. Fans were then treated to the spectacle of the NFL’s first solid-purple team.

Other notes from this same game:

• I wonder how many NFL teams had cheerleaders in 1964? (The Steelers were the first team to use them, in 1961.)

• Look at those wussy officials wearing plastic rain slickers. Anyone know when they stopped wearing those things?

• Check out the band in the background of this shot.

• Lots of oddities in this scoreboard shot: The letter “O” appears in several different typefaces; the “Y” is unusual; and hey, two quarts, that’s a half-gallon!

You can see more of Larry shots from this game here.

And that’s just the beginning. Larry has also put together spectacular albums of material focusing on the Broncos, Titans/Jets, Eagles, Raiders, Chiefs (be sure to check out the adorable team logos toward the end of the album), and the 1962 Championship Game (look at this graphic!).

There’s also this album and this album, both of which are wonderful grab bags of old NFL stuff. Oh, and Larry also put together a WFL album, including some shots of the infamous pants-by-position game.

Full disclosure: Larry sends this stuff faster than I can keep up with it, so I haven’t yet clicked through every single one of these images. But if we wait for me to catch up with all his material, you’ll never get to see any of it. So poke around in the albums, enjoy the great images, and don’t blame me if you don’t get anything else done today.

Class(ified) is now in session: The Uni Watch Classifieds are now up and running. You don’t want that one lonely ad to be there all by itself, do you? To place your own ad, follow the instrux here.

Raffle Reminder: I’m currently raffling off a jersey from SoccerPro.com. For details, look here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Coupla follow-ups to yesterday’s material. First, regarding Jim Wagner’s imaginary team logos, Glenn Stern notes that Jim’s concept for the San Diego Missions (top-left of this page) is very similar to the logo for a real team, minor league baseball’s San Antonio Missions. … And second, Todd Vaughn‘s scrapbook of woven labels from Chatham Mills in Pittsboro, North Carolina, prompted this from Pittsboro native Chris Warfford: “Chatham Mills was known as the worlds largest manufacturer of woven labels. From what I understand, workers of the mill would grab a few of the designer labels they were making and sew them onto their own clothes, so the shirt they had purchased at the local men’s or women’s store was now labeled as one from Saks 5th Avenue or Bloomingdale’s.” Chris, incidentally, works for Frontier Spinning Mills, which spins cotton and polyester yarns for many textile operations, including the venerable Twin City Knitting. … Best thing about the Joba Chamberlain arrest video: Check out his striped shirt! … As you know, some of the new football helmet shell designs have air vents in places that conflict with the longstanding placement of stripes and/or decals, all of which is apparently causing some consternation in Ann Arbor. The funny thing, of course, is that the winged helmet design is based on a now-obsolete helmet-construction format, and now a new format may be forcing some changes to the stripes (with thanks to Seth Fisher). … Major find by Jared Wheeler, who recently came across something called the Little Blue Book. “It highlights all the sports (collegiate and professional) for the 1951 season,” he says. “Nothing related to uniforms, but the first section of the book talks about a well-dressed man in 1951 and gives pointers on business wear, leisure wear, etc.” Jared scanned all the relevant pages here. … The Salt Lake Bees will be wearing a memorial for owner Larry H. Miller, who passed away earlier this year. The patch’s shape is based on Miller’s company’s logo (with thanks to Brett Crane). … Here’s what the Phillies’ World Series ring looks like. … The Clearwater Thrashers have a 25th-anniversary logo. “It incorporates three different logos used by the club over the past quarter-decade,” explains Larry Wiederecht. “The Phillies’ P, the stylized C you see in Clearwater (both used in the C-Phils days), and the swaying palm that was designed as the current secondary logo when the club was re-named Threshers in 2004. The font also comes from the current uniform design.” … It’s a Houston hosiery spectacular, with game-worn stirrups from the Colt .45s and Astros both available on eBay (awesome find by Ryan Connelly). … I highly, highly recommend all of the photos linked in this comment from yesterday. … Andrew McKillop has created a photo album of rare college football pics. Highlights include UTEP and Oregon State with SNOB, a very interesting Texas Tech uni, and Notre Dame’s green jersey with shamrock helmet. To check out the full album, go here and enter the password “helmets1” … They’ve finally started dismantling Yankee Stadium, as you can see here (with thanks to Alan Tompas). … A crown has been added to the top of the Royals’ scoreboard. Good video report here (with thanks to Chris Murphy). … Joe DeAngelis has created a logo puzzle. Can you identify all the logos? Answer sheet coming tomorrow. … Two games into the season and the Rangers have already gotten seriously stupid, wearing their red cap, sleeves, and socks with their blue-trimmed white home uni. The red/blue confusion was reflected in Josh Hamilton’s armbands.… More from that same game: Salty’s forward-facing brim experiment is apparently over (and boy do they need to find some condensed letters for him). … Here’s the Phillies’ new alternate batting helmet. I like, I like. … Reds pitcher Edison Volquez slipped and almost injured himself on a fielding play last night. Why did he slip? Because, as Phil points out, he had his pants pulled down under his heel, and the pant fabric glided on the grass surface. … It’s hard to see in this photo, but Steve Johnston says that’s a flapless Cool-Flo helmet that AJ Pierzynski’s wearing. If so, I think that’s the first time I’ve ever seen a flapless Cool-Flo. … Odd rugby promotion here. Click on any two players and watch what happens (with thanks to Hadyn Green). … Bemidji State has a pretty adorable logo (with thanks to Brinke Guthrie). … “The Blackhawks broke their single-season attendance record on Wednesday night,” writes James Huening. “The fan who officially broke the record was given a jersey with the number 835,972 as the NOB (or is it ATOB, for attendance total on back?).” … NHL/MLB crossover item from Erich vonNida, who writes: “Patrick Sharp ‘threw’ out the first pitch at a Chisox game. This video link shows that, along with some shots of some of Blackhawks players wearing Chi Sox hockey sweaters.” … Here’s a shocker: Bill Belichick dressed up all nice and purty for a Wesleyan alumni event (with thanks to Chris Choi). … Back in the late 1990s, Denver University’s mascot, Denver Boone (drawn by Walt Disney himself), was replaced by a hawk. A decade later, many fans still want Boone back, and now a fan group has created a new Boone to appear at athletic events (with thanks to Ryan Hess). … Today’s my Mom’s birthday, so I’m gonna be off the grid and Phil will have the helm. See you tomorrow.

 

234 comments to Grab This: The Larry Bodnovich Files, Vol. 1

  • Tris Wykes | April 9, 2009 at 8:02 am |

    Links on first three bullet point items not working for me…

  • Paul Lukas | April 9, 2009 at 8:06 am |

    [quote comment=”322219″]Links on first three bullet point items not working for me…[/quote]

    Cut/paste the URL back into your browser and hit enter — that’ll do it.

  • dwight | April 9, 2009 at 8:17 am |

    With so many people getting offended, and the detailed nature of most of the stories, comments, observations etc, it often gets forgotten, but I have to say to Paul, Phil, et al:

    I FLIPPIN’ LOVE THIS WEBSITE AND APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE OTHER GOOFBALLS LIKE ME IN THE WORLD WHO DIG THIS SHIT TOO!!!!

    Thank you for all the hard work, that is all.

  • Glen | April 9, 2009 at 8:21 am |

    Those old screen shots are AMAZING!

  • Glen | April 9, 2009 at 8:23 am |

    of the links that work that is. I tried the copy and paste method but it didn’t work

  • Glen | April 9, 2009 at 8:24 am |

    you have to have this in front

  • Paul Lukas | April 9, 2009 at 8:28 am |

    [quote comment=”322223″]of the links that work that is. I tried the copy and paste method but it didn’t work[/quote]

    You may need to paste it into a new window, instead of the same in which you got the error message.

    Sorry for the hassle — it’s the nature of Picasa.

  • Glen | April 9, 2009 at 8:28 am |
  • Mike Edgerly | April 9, 2009 at 8:31 am |

    [quote comment=”322225″][quote comment=”322223″]of the links that work that is. I tried the copy and paste method but it didn’t work[/quote]

    You may need to paste it into a new window, instead of the same in which you got the error message.

    Sorry for the hassle — it’s the nature of Picasa.[/quote]
    Also what works for me is putting a space at the end of the URL, then hitting enter.
    I know it’s weird, but this sort of thing keeps me in a job!

  • josh's twin | April 9, 2009 at 8:33 am |

    It looks like the Cubs must have given their now-ditched road helmets to the Phillies.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 8:34 am |

    anyone know why the fathers wore camo last night?

    /military appreciation? fleet week? douchebaggery?

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”322227″][quote comment=”322225″][quote comment=”322223″]of the links that work that is. I tried the copy and paste method but it didn’t work[/quote]

    You may need to paste it into a new window, instead of the same in which you got the error message.

    Sorry for the hassle — it’s the nature of Picasa.[/quote]
    Also what works for me is putting a space at the end of the URL, then hitting enter.
    I know it’s weird, but this sort of thing keeps me in a job![/quote]
    Holy crap, that works. Thanks!

  • Dane | April 9, 2009 at 8:43 am |

    A comprehensive list of fictional sports teams:

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Paul Lukas | April 9, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    [quote comment=”322229″]anyone know why the fathers wore camo last night?

    /military appreciation? fleet week? douchebaggery?[/quote]

    It’s one of their alts — they can (and do) wear it whenever they like.

  • jesse | April 9, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    The Padres host a lot of military appreciation nights, probably the reason.

  • Billy | April 9, 2009 at 8:57 am |

    Perhaps Salty wears the brim forward for day games to help with the sunlight?

  • Oakville Endive | April 9, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”322233″]The Padres host a lot of military appreciation nights, probably the reason.[/quote]

    There has to be a better way of saluting the military than wearing those hideous things. The uni really looks sloppy.

    As a completely unrelated comment from nowhere – I want to salute (use of the term “salute” is I guess the segway) the New Jersey Devils – for gradually carving out brand recognition, by never adopting a 3rd jersey, and sticking with the exact same jersey now for I would guess 15 years now – more teams should be this disciplined.

  • Geeman | April 9, 2009 at 9:02 am |

    1. Ricko — Thanks for posting the picture of all nine Pirates 1970s combinations late yesterday. Note that one of the comments at the bottom says the Pirates continued to wear black and gold at home in 1980, after they had gone to the all-white uniform (contrary to what I thought). The question is: Did they mix and match the solid whites with the blacks and golds, like they did with the pinstripes?

    2. When I first saw Paul’s post this morning about the Rangers getting silly mixing and matching their reds and blues, I agreed with him (still do — uniform choices are getting out of hand). But then I thought: I loved it when the Pirates did this in the 1970s. Then again, I was 10 years old. With age comes wisdom, maturity, and the knowledge that limited mixing is advisable.

    3. As for the old Yankee Stadium being torn down: I was at the first game of the new Yankee Stadium (still have the ticket stubs) in 1976, and again for Seaver’s 300th win in 1985. I loved it, still love it, and I’m a diehard Red Sox fan (and a one-time Mets fan). Sad to see it go.

  • Paul L Williams | April 9, 2009 at 9:03 am |

    If the Steelers first had cheerleaders in 1961 then they were seven years behind my Beloved BALTIMORE COLTS whose cheerleading group was started in 1954 by Eleanor Mack and had appeared in both the 1958 & 1959 NFL Championship games.

  • Geeman | April 9, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    The baseball equivalent of the Vikings-Lions game mentioned above it that July 15, 1977, game between the Pirates and Mets at Shea. I know I’ve mentioned in a couple of times now and don’t have proof, but I swear, I saw that white whale on TV.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    [quote]I’m a diehard Red Sox fan (and a one-time Mets fan)[/quote]

    what happened? BFBS? MDG? keith in the booth?

  • Joe Hilseberg | April 9, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”322237″]If the Steelers first had cheerleaders in 1961 then they were seven years behind my Beloved BALTIMORE COLTS whose cheerleading group was started in 1954 by Eleanor Mack and had appeared in both the 1958 & 1959 NFL Championship games.[/quote]

    You beat me to it!!!! I was trying to find sources.

    “In the 1960s National Football League (NFL) teams began to organize professional cheerleading teams. The Baltimore Colts (now the Indianapolis Colts) was the first NFL team to have an organized cheerleading squad.[8] ”

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Geeman | April 9, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”322239″][quote]I’m a diehard Red Sox fan (and a one-time Mets fan)[/quote]

    what happened? BFBS? MDG? keith in the booth?[/quote]

    The purposeful and needless dismantling of the Straw-Gooden juggernaut started it (loved those guys). The addition of black in the unis accelerated it (just kidding). The firing of Willie would have sent me over the edge if I had already not been there. Actually, ’86 was a good year for me, because they were my two teams then.

  • adam | April 9, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    1) Links still not working
    2) old pix that did work came out very blurry
    3) WTF are the Texas Rangers thinking? OMG those ugly RED alt jersies on opening day were bad enough, but that abortion they wore last night? Should rename the team the Texas Rodeo Clowns, b/c that is what they look like!

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    I can’t believe I’m about to say this. I don’t think the Ranger uniforms look that bad with the red cap, even though it isn’t one of their designated uni combinations.

    http://llnw.image.cb...

    The one thing I can’t stand is when teams use a wacky font for the NOB. Ugh.

  • Jeff | April 9, 2009 at 9:23 am |

    “San Diego Missions (top-right of this page)”

    Top-right? Paul, me thinks you need shoes with R and L at the toes. :D

  • Kyle | April 9, 2009 at 9:24 am |

    Billy, You are correct. In bright sunlight, it would make sense for Saltalamacchia to wear the brim forward. During night games he wears it backwards. Maybe during day games he should go with the Jack Parkman sunglasses http://www.retrojunk...

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    Sorry, try this Ranger link…

    http://cbs11tv.com/l...

  • Geeman | April 9, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”322241″][quote comment=”322239″][quote]I’m a diehard Red Sox fan (and a one-time Mets fan)[/quote]

    what happened? BFBS? MDG? keith in the booth?[/quote]

    The purposeful and needless dismantling of the Straw-Gooden juggernaut started it (loved those guys). The addition of black in the unis accelerated it (just kidding). The firing of Willie would have sent me over the edge if I had already not been there. Actually, ’86 was a good year for me, because they were my two teams then.[/quote]

    I’ll add that, as a kid, I moved south and started following the Braves, and slowly the ties to the Mets faded, but for some reason the Sox allure remained (perhaps heart-breaking playoff homers 25 years apart kept my interest).

  • Dan King | April 9, 2009 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”322243″]I can’t believe I’m about to say this. I don’t think the Ranger uniforms look that bad with the red cap, even though it isn’t one of their designated uni combinations.

    http://llnw.image.cb...

    The one thing I can’t stand is when teams use a wacky font for the NOB. Ugh.[/quote]

    i liked the look of the NOB since it matched all the other writing on the jersey. wasn’t hard to read at all. what drove me nuts was the blue and red mismatch. my ocd friend couldn’t understand how much it bothered me.

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”322248″][quote comment=”322243″]I can’t believe I’m about to say this. I don’t think the Ranger uniforms look that bad with the red cap, even though it isn’t one of their designated uni combinations.

    http://llnw.image.cb...

    The one thing I can’t stand is when teams use a wacky font for the NOB. Ugh.[/quote]

    i liked the look of the NOB since it matched all the other writing on the jersey. wasn’t hard to read at all. what drove me nuts was the blue and red mismatch. my ocd friend couldn’t understand how much it bothered me.[/quote]
    I actually kinda liked the way it looked. At least the sleeves and caps (and socks, for the few that were visible) all matched.

    The overall appearance was certainly no worse than the Red Sox or Cardinals with their mismatched red sleeves and blue lids.

  • Chad Johnson | April 9, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    I thought the Ranger red looked just fine. I like the red better than the blue anyway. What\’s the difference in them wearing blue trimmed unis with red caps, then the Indians or Braves wearing red trimmed unis with blue caps?

  • Paul Lukas | April 9, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”322244″]”San Diego Missions (top-right of this page)”

    Top-right? Paul, me thinks you need shoes with R and L at the toes. :D[/quote]

    Nah, I just need more than four hours of sleep…. Now fixed.

  • John | April 9, 2009 at 9:44 am |

    Phil-
    I understand the classified section and I think it’s a great idea… BUT that being said…
    The first ad is for a DIY guy selling his wares … how long until MLB or the NFL comes in with copyright infringement on you/these guys?

  • KT | April 9, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    Does Larry have screengrabs from the 1976 Seahawks so we can settle the helmet question once and for all? ;)

    Also, Lost Treasures on NFL Network is the source of some of that stuff and I recommend you set the DVR for it. Great, great stuff.

  • Giancarlo | April 9, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    Note that the guy writing the mens’ style pointers in the Little Blue Book is “Bert Bacharach.” I think that is Burt’s father, who Wiki says was a “newspaper columnist.”

  • scott | April 9, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”322250″]I thought the Ranger red looked just fine. I like the red better than the blue anyway. What\’s the difference in them wearing blue trimmed unis with red caps, then the Indians or Braves wearing red trimmed unis with blue caps?[/quote]

    Agreed. The red caps over the white jerseys and pants looked great – and was reminiscent of the appearance of the very good late 1990s Rangers teams.

  • Steve Naismith | April 9, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    “One problem with this site, if you want to call it a problem, is that I’m sometimes inundated with more great material than I can post.”

    In that case, I’d recommend never posting DIY projects or refrigerator artwork from 7-year-olds. Other than that, keep up the good work!

  • steve | April 9, 2009 at 10:07 am |

    Larry B,

    Could you send me your e-mail address. I am working on a college football project which you might be of some help. Mine is sstern2@verizon.net.

    Thanks

    Steve

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”322252″]Phil-
    I understand the classified section and I think it’s a great idea… BUT that being said…
    The first ad is for a DIY guy selling his wares … how long until MLB or the NFL comes in with copyright infringement on you/these guys?[/quote]

    coupla things…

    1st: they’re paul’s classifieds

    2nd: i think the gentleman who’s advertising has sold some of his creations on eBay, so if there were any kind of infringement issue, it’s prolly probably been settled already

    3rd: let’s see how these things flesh out…i don’t so much view them as some advertiser “selling his wares” as much as a UWer to UWer type of arrangement — (even if MLB properties feels differently) — if you don’t wanna partake, that’s cool, but let’s just see how it goes

  • marc | April 9, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”322221″]With so many people getting offended, and the detailed nature of most of the stories, comments, observations etc, it often gets forgotten, but I have to say to Paul, Phil, et al:

    I FLIPPIN’ LOVE THIS WEBSITE AND APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE OTHER GOOFBALLS LIKE ME IN THE WORLD WHO DIG THIS SHIT TOO!!!!

    Thank you for all the hard work, that is all.[/quote]

    AMEN! Thanks a ton, Paul et al.

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 10:21 am |

    http://picasaweb.goo...

    http://lh4.ggpht.com...

    Seeing if this works frmy my album for the 1st 2 links that did not work

  • Beardface | April 9, 2009 at 10:21 am |

    Whats the deal with teams going dark color numbers on light color jerseys? It almost NEVER looks right. Like with the Braves and their red unis and navy numbers or Syracuse with their orange jerseys and blue numbers or Virginia Tech with their orange jerseys and maroon numbers. Its just painful in most cases.

    There should be a Uni-rule on this one. If you are going to wear a light colored bright jersey, you’re required to wear white numbers trimmed in your team’s darker color. Period, end of argument.

  • Hank | April 9, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”322242″]1) Links still not working
    2) old pix that did work came out very blurry
    3) WTF are the Texas Rangers thinking? OMG those ugly RED alt jersies on opening day were bad enough, but that abortion they wore last night? Should rename the team the Texas Rodeo Clowns, b/c that is what they look like![/quote]

    I used an extra space after the URL, per Paul’s suggestion, and it worked.

    They are blurry because they are blurry?.

  • We Got Ns In The Backfield | April 9, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    Good. Hopefully the new football helmet patterns will force Michigan to get rid of their totally overrated helmet design.

  • Hank | April 9, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    Belichick in a suit? Is it photoshopped or just another sign the Apocalypse is near.

  • Fuzzy Dunlop | April 9, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    Why can’t the links just be posted correctly instead of requiring so much manual manipulation?

    I read the blog at work, and don’t have time to copy, paste, add spaces, parse strings, etc.

    Love the blog, but today’s post was lost on me because of the links. Shouldn’t be that hard.

  • Charlie | April 9, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    The University of San Diego’s baseball coach Rich Hill wears a flapless cool-flow helmet on the field. You can see it in the graphic at the top on this page:
    http://usdtoreros.cs...

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”322266″]Why can’t the links just be posted correctly instead of requiring so much manual manipulation?

    I read the blog at work, and don’t have time to copy, paste, add spaces, parse strings, etc.

    Love the blog, but today’s post was lost on me because of the links. Shouldn’t be that hard.[/quote]

    ok…im at work myself, now, but i will go in and flickr each of the links … have some patience, however, as i need to do this during breaks and the like

    sorry for any inconvenience

  • Matt B | April 9, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    Someone on Hockey Futures web site duplicated all the NHL logos using MS Paint. Pretty cool. Check it out.
    http://hfboards.com/...

  • tom farley | April 9, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    Larry, first off, thanks so much for your contribution! The white-vs.-white game, which led to the all-purple Vikings (Van Brocklin said they looked like Easter eggs) always amuses me.

    Picasa says that none of your albums are public. Maybe that’s the problem? I’m a Picasa user too, but I use that only for photos I want to share with family, so I’ve only ever made my Picasa albums private.

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    http://lh4.ggpht.com...

    wussy officials

    http://lh3.ggpht.com...

    plastic rainslickers

  • u2-horn | April 9, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”322266″]Why can’t the links just be posted correctly instead of requiring so much manual manipulation?

    I read the blog at work, and don’t have time to copy, paste, add spaces, parse strings, etc.

    Love the blog, but today’s post was lost on me because of the links. Shouldn’t be that hard.[/quote]

    I have no comment on your comment, but I love your username. Hrec approves.

  • u2-horn | April 9, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    Herc!

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”322270″]Larry, first off, thanks so much for your contribution! The white-vs.-white game, which led to the all-purple Vikings (Van Brocklin said they looked like Easter eggs) always amuses me.

    Picasa says that none of your albums are public. Maybe that’s the problem? I’m a Picasa user too, but I use that only for photos I want to share with family, so I’ve only ever made my Picasa albums private.[/quote]

    Tom maybe that is it. I sent all these to plau to share with you guys.
    Maybe I can see what I can do for now

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”322273″]The funny thing, of course, is that the winged helmet design is based on a now-obsolete helmet-construction format, and now a new format may be forcing some changes to the stripes.[/quote]
    If Michigan fans are PO’d, then more than a few midwestern fans are thanking who/whatever for a little karmic justice today. The’ry quite possibly the most arrogant bunch around (or at least 1-2 with the Domers).

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”322271″]AAJgk/1HO_G1YI-Uc/s640/h5y.jpg
    plastic rainslickers[/quote]Maybe back when that picture was shot the refs were responsible for their own uni’s? (IOW, no uniform allowance or cleaning stipend.)

  • JTN | April 9, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    I couldn’t help but not watch the Royals video clip (especially being a KC’er living in NYC). What I found was awesome was the time-lapse at the end of the clip, but there was a point in there that I found pretty amusing. At one point the crane had lowered enough so the stand was below the crown and in front of the giant video screen and then there were NCAA games that were being shown. I couldn’t help but think about the suggestions for optimal viewing distance for my lcd tv and then wonder what would be the optimal viewing distance for that giant screen. Wonder how much of the game could they actually see?

    My sincerest apologies for this random thought.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”322264″]Good. Hopefully the new football helmet patterns will force Michigan to get rid of their totally overrated helmet design.[/quote]It’s hardly their design. As noted in the main post, its a utilitarian response to needed safety gear. Delaware and some Ivy League school either used or perhaps still use the same pattern.

    Don’t believe the hype. :-)

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    I did as tom told me and as far as I can tell all the links should work with out the extra effort.

    Thanks for the heads up tom farley

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”322267″]The University of San Diego’s baseball coach Rich Hill wears a flapless cool-flow helmet on the field. You can see it in the graphic at the top on this page:
    http://usdtoreros.cs...
    That doesn’t look like a Rawlings Cool-Flo, but probably a version made by Wilson. The holes look about right.

    http://www.dicksspor...

  • Flip | April 9, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    The Vikings’ all-purple look actually didn’t look that bad.
    http://lh4.ggpht.com...

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”322226″]FIRE!
    http://picasaweb.goo...
    Love the picture at #21 in that series with the “Play By” on the Yankee Stadium scoreboard. I’d never seen that notation before. Usually the PA man would say “tackle by” and give the runner or reciever-this is the first time I’ve seen it noted visually at the stadium. A precursor to big-screen instant replay I guess. :-)

  • Johnny O | April 9, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    Here is Tim Lincecum with his Cy Young hardware presented to him last night (They couldn’t do it a day earlier when he pitched?):

    http://a.espncdn.com...

    And for all you Brewers fans out there…hopefully we will see this about 90 more times this season:

    http://a.espncdn.com...

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”322253″]Does Larry have screengrabs from the 1976 Seahawks so we can settle the helmet question once and for all? ;)

    Also, Lost Treasures on NFL Network is the source of some of that stuff and I recommend you set the DVR for it. Great, great stuff.[/quote]

    I saw that mentioned last week. My brother did bring over a few more good NFL dvds. If I do find any info on that I will post it.

    I also sent in the Broncos history for Ricko since it had the Broncos vs Chiefs in a no logo game. ALso a lot of Bronco practice without the logo. For whatever that is worth

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”322278″][quote comment=”322264″]Good. Hopefully the new football helmet patterns will force Michigan to get rid of their totally overrated helmet design.[/quote]It’s hardly their design. As noted in the main post, its a utilitarian response to needed safety gear. Delaware and some Ivy League school either used or perhaps still use the same pattern.

    Don’t believe the hype. :-)[/quote]
    Princeton was the first. Fritz Crisler brought the design with him to Michigan.

    Princeton then abandoned the look. They brought it back about 20 years ago.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”322253″]Also, Lost Treasures on NFL Network is the source of some of that stuff and I recommend you set the DVR for it. Great, great stuff.[/quote]
    A big AMEN to that. I love that stuff for the 50’s, 60’s footage.

    The “behind the scenes” show from the Ice Bowl got me hooked and now I’m mainlining those DVD’s man… :-)

  • Flip | April 9, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    I know the Phillies’ pinstripes are traditional, but I really like the alts. The helmet was just the finishing touch.
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    ok ladies and gentlemen…i flickr’ed the pics that i think were not properly loading…they should work now…if not, shoot me a line and i’ll try to correct them individually

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”322283″]Here is Tim Lincecum with his Cy Young hardware presented to him last night (They couldn’t do it a day earlier when he pitched?):

    http://a.espncdn.com...
    He probably preferred it that way. Accepting the award would have thrown off his gameday routine.

  • Mike Engle | April 9, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    From a couple of days ago, does Jarrod Saltalamacchia still have a “Salty #25” chest plate vanity? It’s about time he gets #21 to match his jersey.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”322285″]
    Princeton was the first. Fritz Crisler brought the design with him to Michigan.

    Princeton then abandoned the look. They brought it back about 20 years ago.[/quote]
    Thanks for the follow up.

    A few days ago I saw that the University of Wisconsin’s softball team mimics the look of their football helmet for their batting helmets. Bad on more than one level IMHO.

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”322283″]Here is Tim Lincecum with his Cy Young hardware presented to him last night (They couldn’t do it a day earlier when he pitched?):

    http://a.espncdn.com...

    And for all you Brewers fans out there…hopefully we will see this about 90 more times this season:

    http://a.espncdn.com...
    What, no mention of the first pitcher ever to take the Big Unit deep? Wait, that didn’t sound right.

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”322291″][quote comment=”322285″]
    Princeton was the first. Fritz Crisler brought the design with him to Michigan.

    Princeton then abandoned the look. They brought it back about 20 years ago.[/quote]
    Thanks for the follow up.

    A few days ago I saw that the University of Wisconsin’s softball team mimics the look of their football helmet for their batting helmets. Bad on more than one level IMHO.[/quote]
    Motion Ws on either side? Brutal.

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”322240″][quote comment=”322237″]If the Steelers first had cheerleaders in 1961 then they were seven years behind my Beloved BALTIMORE COLTS whose cheerleading group was started in 1954 by Eleanor Mack and had appeared in both the 1958 & 1959 NFL Championship games.[/quote]

    You beat me to it!!!! I was trying to find sources.

    “In the 1960s National Football League (NFL) teams began to organize professional cheerleading teams. The Baltimore Colts (now the Indianapolis Colts) was the first NFL team to have an organized cheerleading squad.[8] ”

    http://en.wikipedia....

    http://lh4.ggpht.com...

    Colts Cheerleaders

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”322292″]What, no mention of the first pitcher ever to take the Big Unit deep? Wait, that didn’t sound right.[/quote]

    kazuhito tadano unavailable for comment

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”322289″]He probably preferred it that way. Accepting the award would have thrown off his gameday routine.[/quote]
    Cynical types might speculate that since they already had a capacity crowd for Opening Day, why not try for a few more ticket sales on the traditionally dead Day Two?

    But I’m sure Giants marketing isn’t that mercenary.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”322293″]Motion Ws on either side? Brutal.[/quote]Dunno about “either” side, but a shot from the first base dugout of a righthanded batter shows that it was on the right side of her helmet. One can only assume that if you went as far as one “W” plus the front-to-back stripes you’d go all the way and put the “W” on both sides.

  • tom farley | April 9, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    You’re welcome, Larry. I can tell that we have strikingly similar tastes in DVDs.

    The albums are indeed spectacular. Here’s the shot that is my early favorite.

    http://picasaweb.goo...

    I don’t think I’ve seen that Broncos combination before.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”322293″]
    Motion Ws on either side? Brutal.[/quote]

    Here’s a link and I hope it works…

    http://www.uwbadgers...

  • tom farley | April 9, 2009 at 11:16 am |

    What, no mention of the first pitcher ever to take the Big Unit deep? Wait, that didn’t sound right.
    Not that there’s anything wrong with that …

    It was pretty great watching him do it, though. Johnson seemed to think he could put a high fastball past a pitcher, and Gallardo abruptly corrected him.

  • Bruce Jaynes | April 9, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    The NFL screen-shots are incredible. Couldn’t help but notice these….
    http://picasaweb.goo...

    http://picasaweb.goo...

    That’s Cybil Shepherd…right?

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    Yep that is Cybil.

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”322298″]You’re welcome, Larry. I can tell that we have strikingly similar tastes in DVDs.

    The albums are indeed spectacular. Here’s the shot that is my early favorite.

    http://picasaweb.goo...

    I don’t think I’ve seen that Broncos combination before.[/quote]

    I actually think the Bronos helmet looked good with no logo

  • Ry Co 40 | April 9, 2009 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”322269″]Someone on Hockey Futures web site duplicated all the NHL logos using MS Paint. Pretty cool. Check it out.
    http://hfboards.com/...

    LOL! why do i love that SO much?!?! that whole thing made me laugh! love it!!!

  • Ry Co 40 | April 9, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”322277″]I couldn’t help but not watch the Royals video clip (especially being a KC’er living in NYC). What I found was awesome was the time-lapse at the end of the clip, but there was a point in there that I found pretty amusing. At one point the crane had lowered enough so the stand was below the crown and in front of the giant video screen and then there were NCAA games that were being shown. I couldn’t help but think about the suggestions for optimal viewing distance for my lcd tv and then wonder what would be the optimal viewing distance for that giant screen. Wonder how much of the game could they actually see?

    My sincerest apologies for this random thought.[/quote]

    my favorite part of the video… where the guy says the metal will “still look the same 20, 30, 40 years down the line” or whatever. as if kansas city will ACTUALLY have a team that far in the future! haha. they’ll be lucky to have a team 5 years from now!

  • EL | April 9, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”322299″][quote comment=”322293″]
    Motion Ws on either side? Brutal.[/quote]

    Here’s a link and I hope it works…

    http://www.uwbadgers...

    On that Wisconsin Softball photo, take a look at the logo for the Badgers football “Spring Ball” logo. Looks pretty similar to the Super Bowl XLIII logo, no?

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    And thanks to Paul and Phil for all the work they do for all of us. As Paul said I had been sending in a lot of material. I was originallly looking for and sending in color grabs from the 1940’s and 50’s Some late 1930’s too. But when my brother brought over the early 1960’s AFL and NFL I had a balst watching those and picking out grabs that I thought were fun to look at.

    Paul and Phil are good guys. That happen to be very busy guys

    Here is a shot of the Eagles vs Redskins in color from I think it was 1948

    http://lh6.ggpht.com...

  • ClubMedSux | April 9, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    Did I miss a link to the new Michigan helmet? I’m coming up empty…

  • Jim Bullard | April 9, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”322235″][quote comment=”322233″]The Padres host a lot of military appreciation nights, probably the reason.[/quote]

    There has to be a better way of saluting the military than wearing those hideous things. The uni really looks sloppy.

    As a completely unrelated comment from nowhere – I want to salute (use of the term “salute” is I guess the segway) the New Jersey Devils – for gradually carving out brand recognition, by never adopting a 3rd jersey, and sticking with the exact same jersey now for I would guess 15 years now – more teams should be this disciplined.[/quote]

    I personally like NJ’s old red and green combo. Maybe that’s just because green and red are my high school colors and it is very rarely used in sports, save for the Milwaukee Bucks and formerly the Devils.

    I just simply disagree with people who hate on teams for wearing third jerseys or special jerseys in honor of something or commemorating an event. For example, I like the fact that the Padres have a camo uniform, and the fact that the Bobcats have a checkerboard uni. Even if those unis are sometimes ugly, at least it breeds a little diversity and excitement. Imagine if every team was as “disciplined” as the Devils, I bet this blog wouldn’t even exist, because we wouldn’t have very much to debate/complain about.

    I do, however, agree that those teams who introduce a black third jersey just for the sake of having a third jersey is a shitty and extremely lame practice.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”322306″]On that Wisconsin Softball photo, take a look at the logo for the Badgers football “Spring Ball” logo. Looks pretty similar to the Super Bowl XLIII logo, no?[/quote]
    I wasn’t either looking or not looking for similarities: but now that you mention it; yes, it’s a lot like the recent Super Bowl logo.

    In truth my first thought was “wow, a logo for your Spring Game? That’s a game for some of the real diehards: no logo needed IMHO.

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    http://farm4.static....

    Maybe Matt can DIY this Pittsburgh Pirate football parka

    Or this Eagles emblem on Bert Bell

    http://lh4.ggpht.com...

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”322310″][quote comment=”322306″]On that Wisconsin Softball photo, take a look at the logo for the Badgers football “Spring Ball” logo. Looks pretty similar to the Super Bowl XLIII logo, no?[/quote]
    I wasn’t either looking or not looking for similarities: but now that you mention it; yes, it’s a lot like the recent Super Bowl logo.

    In truth my first thought was “wow, a logo for your Spring Game? That’s a game for some of the real diehards: no logo needed IMHO.[/quote]
    Oh, the irony of Wisconsin ripping off a logo.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”322305″]my favorite part of the video… where the guy says the metal will “still look the same 20, 30, 40 years down the line” or whatever. as if kansas city will ACTUALLY have a team that far in the future! haha. they’ll be lucky to have a team 5 years from now![/quote]Team or not, Kaufman wasn’t even 40 when it was remodeled, correct? The color and condition of the metal certainly wasn’t the driving factor in this decision to remodel and IMHO it will be moot in future decisions.

  • PhillyDude | April 9, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    What’s with the “211” number?

    http://picasaweb.goo...

  • Flip | April 9, 2009 at 11:38 am |

    Most over rated logo: The motion W. Case closed.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”322312″]Oh, the irony of Wisconsin ripping off a logo.[/quote]

    :-)

    Or photoshopping a picture in a recruiting brochure.

  • KW | April 9, 2009 at 11:39 am |

    not uni related…but very sad…

    http://cbs2.com/loca...

  • Johnny O | April 9, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”322300″]What, no mention of the first pitcher ever to take the Big Unit deep? Wait, that didn’t sound right.
    Not that there’s anything wrong with that …

    It was pretty great watching him do it, though. Johnson seemed to think he could put a high fastball past a pitcher, and Gallardo abruptly corrected him.[/quote]

    Yo has a career .224BA and 3 career HR’s. He is an above average, if not great hitting pitcher. The Big Unit did not do his scouting report on him. Did you see him nod up to the catcher to say to challenge him high? Yo made him pay.

  • M.Princip | April 9, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    I love those black shoes/boots the Vikings are wearing in that 1964 game. White shoes are for wussies.

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”322311″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3342/3339949804_11012b4c62.jpg?v=0

    Maybe Matt can DIY this Pittsburgh Pirate football parka

    Or this Eagles emblem on Bert Bell

    http://lh4.ggpht.com...

    Quite feasible…I would have to find a better image of the pirate or just re-create it as a hybrid between that and their recent pirate logo!

    And for the record, there are much better DIYers out there…Dave Frost for one…I checked his ad and I hadn’t noticed but he has a Milwaukee jacket similar to my sweatshirt that is utterly incredible!

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2009 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”322285″][quote comment=”322278″][quote comment=”322264″]Good. Hopefully the new football helmet patterns will force Michigan to get rid of their totally overrated helmet design.[/quote]It’s hardly their design. As noted in the main post, its a utilitarian response to needed safety gear. Delaware and some Ivy League school either used or perhaps still use the same pattern.

    Don’t believe the hype. :-)[/quote]
    Princeton was the first. Fritz Crisler brought the design with him to Michigan.

    Princeton then abandoned the look. They brought it back about 20 years ago.[/quote]

    Then Tubby Raymond, who was a player for Crisler, brought the design to Delaware where he also invented the most frustratingly difficult offense to play against…the Delawre Wing-T.

    Interesting fact…two years ago, Appalachian State opened and closed their season against the same uniform albeit Michigan and UD!

  • peter | April 9, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    Horrible! 9sorry if this was posted)…

    http://en.wikipedia....

    so sad…

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”322321″]Interesting fact…two years ago, Appalachian State opened and closed their season against the same uniform albeit Michigan and UD![/quote]How brave of Appalachian State to go in as a D-II team and take on a powerhouse like Michigan in their own stadium. Hope they didn’t get beat too badly…

  • Steve Naismith | April 9, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”322322″]Horrible! 9sorry if this was posted)…

    http://en.wikipedia....

    so sad…[/quote]

    Wow. People turning Wikipedia into a news ticker and then quoting TMZ. Awful.

  • Squiddie | April 9, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    I can’t get the Vikings cheerleader photo to come up. I get a shot of the line of scrimmage instead.

    If I recall correctly, the Viking cheerleaders were the Parkettes from St Louis Park High School. They wore very traditional high school cheerleader outfits.

    In the 70s, around the time the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders were selling a ton of posters, the Vikings decided to spice up the look of the Vikings cheerleaders and put out their own poster. There was some uproar about dressing high school girls up in the new uniforms, but you could buy the poster just about anywhere. (It was later revealed that some of the young women on the posters were professional models.)

    Anyway, the connection to the Parkettes lasted until the mid 80s when the Vikings started recruiting their own cheer squad.

    Why am I posting two comments about cheerleaders in as many days?

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”322325″]
    Anyway, the connection to the Parkettes lasted until the mid 80s when the Vikings started recruiting their own cheer squad.[/quote]
    The Lions used to use HS cheerleaders (in their HS uniforms!) for many years into the “we’re crazy for the Cowboy Cheerleaders” era.

    JMHO, but Wm C Ford might have had something to do with the desire for a “wholesome” sideline image in Detroit.

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    Thing about Michigan or winged helmet is this,
    There were a lot of teams in the 1930’s that had winged or winged type helmets.Like a fellow uni watcher Nick knows from old Football Illustrated’s or Illustrated Football. Just look at the 1930’s helmets for many teams. Now maybe not all had the exact style but several did and others had the look.

    I do have most of the 1930’s Illustrated Football. There was no better period for college football uniforms then the late 1920’s until maybe 1940.

    The 1950’s for football uniforms was rather boring. Most helmets had a stripe and numbers on the side. But I still love seeing color action or pictures from the 50’s

  • James P. | April 9, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”322317″]not uni related…but very sad…

    http://cbs2.com/loca...

    Very sad indeed! I expect the Angels to have a memorial patch/armband soon.

  • Mark in Shiga | April 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    That NOB on Salty’s jersey is one of the ugliest things I’ve ever seen.

    It’s a good thing that (1) he’s a big guy with broad-enough shoulders to fit those huge letters in, (2) wears a number containing a “1” rather than two wide digits.

    The Rangers’ jersey just has too much going on. Names on the backs (which are already bigger than, say, the more rationally-sized Oriole NOBs), triple-layered numbers (making the letters wider), shadows (a virtual fourth layer), those little warts on the letters (wider still)… I think that if they dumped any two of these things, the jersey would look decent. As it is, it’s just hideous.

    And, on an unrelated note, I remember Bengie Molina of the Giants having a chest protector whose back strap perfectly obscured his jersey number (1) last year. This year, he’s got something different and you can make out his number now.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote]I can’t get the Vikings cheerleader photo to come up. I get a shot of the line of scrimmage instead.[/quote]

    my bad squiddie…should be fixed now

    i had some bad coding — thanks for pointing it out

  • James | April 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    Guys, I need some help. I need to know the cap worn by the 1991 Ball State baseball team. Specifically, the cap worn with their white jerseys. I’ve had no luck. My guess is that they used the traditional Red Sox cap, because the Ball State road jerseys had lettering was in the same style as the “B” on the Red Sox cap. Although, the Ball State white jerseys does not have this style of lettering, so not sure.

    Also, the 1990 Ball State team wore a gold bordered U.S. flag patch on the left sleeve (during first Gulf War). Does anyone know the size of this flag patch? Is there a universal size for sleeve flag patches on baseball jerseys?

    I appreciate any help. Sorry for the length.

  • Todd V | April 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    Chris W.

    I had honestly never heard of sewing the designer labels into other shirts. I know we never did that, but we’re the salt of the earth…so to speak.

    But I do remember having 18-24″ rolls of woven labels everywhere around the house/farm and using them for rope, tie-downs and even to cordon off the garden. We had a Saks Fifth Avenue garden and a Jones new York garden. They’re very strong and very useful.

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”322325″]I can’t get the Vikings cheerleader photo to come up. I get a shot of the line of scrimmage instead.

    If I recall correctly, the Viking cheerleaders were the Parkettes from St Louis Park High School. They wore very traditional high school cheerleader outfits.

    In the 70s, around the time the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders were selling a ton of posters, the Vikings decided to spice up the look of the Vikings cheerleaders and put out their own poster. There was some uproar about dressing high school girls up in the new uniforms, but you could buy the poster just about anywhere. (It was later revealed that some of the young women on the posters were professional models.)

    Anyway, the connection to the Parkettes lasted until the mid 80s when the Vikings started recruiting their own cheer squad.

    Why am I posting two comments about cheerleaders in as many days?[/quote]

    I just did the same for the cheerleader link. I got the line of scrimmage

    Here is the cheerleader shot

    http://lh4.ggpht.com...

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”322325″]I can’t get the Vikings cheerleader photo to come up. I get a shot of the line of scrimmage instead.

    If I recall correctly, the Viking cheerleaders were the Parkettes from St Louis Park High School. They wore very traditional high school cheerleader outfits.

    In the 70s, around the time the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders were selling a ton of posters, the Vikings decided to spice up the look of the Vikings cheerleaders and put out their own poster. There was some uproar about dressing high school girls up in the new uniforms, but you could buy the poster just about anywhere. (It was later revealed that some of the young women on the posters were professional models.)

    Anyway, the connection to the Parkettes lasted until the mid 80s when the Vikings started recruiting their own cheer squad.

    Why am I posting two comments about cheerleaders in as many days?[/quote]

    My first ex-wife was one of those Parkettes who cheered at Viking games. Well, more like a danceline. Anyway, yeah, attire was traditional. Jumper sorta thing early in season, then sweater over cotton turtleneck, pleated skirt, rolled white socks, tennies when weather cooled.

    –Ricko

  • BSmile | April 9, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    Some more views of the bling-filled Phillies ring:

    http://www.baseball-...

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    My ex is not in that photo, btw. But I grew up on the same block as the girl third from the right.

    —Ricko

  • tom farley | April 9, 2009 at 12:26 pm |

    Why am I posting two comments about cheerleaders in as many days?

    What is “pretty girls in sweaters and pleated skirts,” Alex?

    Just kidding you, Squiddie. I think we’ve all had days where cheerleaders occupied my attention. ;-)

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”322336″]My ex is not in that photo, btw. But I grew up on the same block as the girl third from the right.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    pics or it never happened ;)

  • tom farley | April 9, 2009 at 12:34 pm |

    occupied our attention, of course

    Apparently this is one such day for me …

  • Doug | April 9, 2009 at 12:37 pm |

    Hey Larry:

    You said:

    “My brother and I have been collecting DVDs of old games for a while. We’re part of a group of people who trade this type of material. We have other sports besides football, but football is our favorite.”

    and a link is provided to a screen-grab of a game. It looks like a college game, but can you identify the teams?

    Thanks for sharing your pictures and passion.

  • Marshall | April 9, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    Hello all… so I’m a Marlins fan and was inspired by a previous uniwatch post where the Marlins uniform was updated. So I figured I would make my own new version using only the basic Paint program that I have here at work. I kept the logos and everything the same… not too hi-tech. I just wanted to illustrate what a new color scheme would do to the current look without all the BLACK. So I tried my best to substitute all BLACK for a new MARLIN BLUE I came up with. I also tried to sub all current teal with a simple orange color. Please let me know what you all think:

    Home
    http://i89.photobuck...

    Road
    http://i89.photobuck...

    Alternate
    http://i89.photobuck...

  • Adam | April 9, 2009 at 12:53 pm |

    I don’t know of this has been said before but it’s the Clearwater Threshers not Thrashers as in the type of shark.

  • pflava | April 9, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    You know what the Rangers jersey needs? More outlines and dropshadows. And maybe a bevel effect.

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”322340″]Hey Larry:

    You said:

    “My brother and I have been collecting DVDs of old games for a while. We’re part of a group of people who trade this type of material. We have other sports besides football, but football is our favorite.”

    and a link is provided to a screen-grab of a game. It looks like a college game, but can you identify the teams?

    Thanks for sharing your pictures and passion.[/quote]

    Well, I know Iowa had unis a lot like the team in black (Kinnick era). Could it be Iowa-Iowa State?

    —Ricko

  • pflava | April 9, 2009 at 12:59 pm |

    Maybe this asshole will be the first guy to pull his pants all the way over the toe of his shoe!

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • Adam Leitel | April 9, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    does anyone know where i can find the official colors of the kansas city chiefs? my sister is making me a scarf and the yarn she selected is more seminoles than chiefs! yikes! i need the actual shade so i can guide her from there. can anyone be of assistance?

  • mtjaws | April 9, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”322341″]Hello all… so I’m a Marlins fan and was inspired by a previous uniwatch post where the Marlins uniform was updated. So I figured I would make my own new version using only the basic Paint program that I have here at work. I kept the logos and everything the same… not too hi-tech. I just wanted to illustrate what a new color scheme would do to the current look without all the BLACK. So I tried my best to substitute all BLACK for a new MARLIN BLUE I came up with. I also tried to sub all current teal with a simple orange color. Please let me know what you all think:

    Home
    http://i89.photobuck...

    Road
    http://i89.photobuck...

    Alternate
    http://i89.photobuck...

    Yay, another Marlins fan!

    These do look nice, but I like the current ones better. I don’t want them to copy the Dolphins, nor change name to “Miami”, but I think it is inevitable. Grrr. Nice concept though, Dude.

  • Doug | April 9, 2009 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”322344″][quote comment=”322340″]Hey Larry:

    You said:

    “My brother and I have been collecting DVDs of old games for a while. We’re part of a group of people who trade this type of material. We have other sports besides football, but football is our favorite.”

    and a link is provided to a screen-grab of a game. It looks like a college game, but can you identify the teams?

    Thanks for sharing your pictures and passion.[/quote]

    Well, I know Iowa had unis a lot like the team in black (Kinnick era). Could it be Iowa-Iowa State?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s what I was wondering, Ricko, being that I went to Iowa State. The “I” in the lower right may be a further clue, too. But the series between Iowa State and Iowa only resumed in 1977 after being on a break for quite some time. If it is Iowa State v. Iowa, that would make it a pretty old picture/screen grab.

  • bill | April 9, 2009 at 1:11 pm |

    Larry…I also want to thank you for sharing the pictures. The unis were cool but I also liked seeing pictures of the old stadiums.

    Forgot how they used to spell BROWNS in the end zones at Municipal Stadium in Cleveland.

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”322348″][quote comment=”322344″][quote comment=”322340″]Hey Larry:

    You said:

    “My brother and I have been collecting DVDs of old games for a while. We’re part of a group of people who trade this type of material. We have other sports besides football, but football is our favorite.”

    and a link is provided to a screen-grab of a game. It looks like a college game, but can you identify the teams?

    Thanks for sharing your pictures and passion.[/quote]

    Well, I know Iowa had unis a lot like the team in black (Kinnick era). Could it be Iowa-Iowa State?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    That’s what I was wondering, Ricko, being that I went to Iowa State. The “I” in the lower right may be a further clue, too. But the series between Iowa State and Iowa only resumed in 1977 after being on a break for quite some time. If it is Iowa State v. Iowa, that would make it a pretty old picture/screen grab.[/quote]

    Was a guess. Could be Minnesota, too (only Big Ten that wears anything close to those colors), I suppose, but just doesn’t really quite look like it.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 1:17 pm |

    LOL. I hadn’t even noticed the “I”.
    Some investigator I am.

  • Tim | April 9, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    David Wright going high cuffed for the Mets in today’s afternoon game. Didn’t do it all spring training so it’s nice to see him keep with his “tradition”……

  • Tim | April 9, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    …… and as I type that Carlos Delgado steps up to the plate also high cuffed.

  • timmy b | April 9, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    Larry B,

    All I can say is

    AWESOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMME!!!

  • Hott Rodd | April 9, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”322338″][quote comment=”322336″]My ex is not in that photo, btw. But I grew up on the same block as the girl third from the right.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    pics or it never happened ;)[/quote]

    Phil is the youngest old guy I know.. er.. well using “know” in the most liberal sense of the word.

  • Noelski y que! | April 9, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    RIP Nick Adenhart….

  • Squiddie | April 9, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    Speaking of Iowa State, has this set been mentioned?

    Iowa State University Library Special Collections Football Set on Flickr

    Bonus for the picture of Matt Blair with the funky Sun Bowl caption.

  • Alex | April 9, 2009 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”322357″]RIP Nick Adenhart….[/quote]

    Your career was too short

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”322358″]Speaking of Iowa State, has this set been mentioned?

    Iowa State University Library Special Collections Football Set on Flickr

    Bonus for the picture of Matt Blair with the funky Sun Bowl caption.[/quote]

    What, no photo of Eppie Barney?

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”322359″][quote comment=”322357″]RIP Nick Adenhart….[/quote]

    Your career was too short[/quote]

    your life was too short

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    Young art director here (excellent athlete and huge sports fan) just looked over my shoulder at the Vikings-Lions white-on-white game. He hadn’t heard the story, so I filled him and went though the images.

    He said, “Vikings should go back to their old uniforms. I shouldn’t say this, but all the new uniforms out there today look like they were designed by girls. Stripes everywhere, a splotch of color here. Not masculine and the colors are just…off. Like all the shades of maroon….”

    (and so on)

    —Ricko

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    I finally had a chance to look at (most, but not all of) those photos, so I’m late to the party with the praise for Larry B, but those albums are fantastic. Cujos to you, sir.

    Some of my faves:
    What the hell’s going on here?

    I love that the Packers were still using the blue capes even though the uniforms had green trim.

    Was this inspired by this?

    Hey, how’d that one get in there?

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    http://picasaweb.goo...

    Delta Burke? She was Miss Florida about that time.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”322364″]http://picasaweb.google.com/larrymb52/WFL?authkey=Gv1sRgCKyqs4e7sZrDxQE#5321283001783909362

    Delta Burke? She was Miss Florida about that time.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    you’re good rick

    check it out (seventh pic)

  • Geeman | April 9, 2009 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”322323″][quote comment=”322321″]Interesting fact…two years ago, Appalachian State opened and closed their season against the same uniform albeit Michigan and UD![/quote]How brave of Appalachian State to go in as a D-II team and take on a powerhouse like Michigan in their own stadium. Hope they didn’t get beat too badly…[/quote]

    Appalchian State is Division I, not Division II. They play in what was formerly the I-AA half of Division I. Michigan plays in the half formerly known as Division I-A. There is a difference, but not as big a difference as DI vs. DII.

  • Carl | April 9, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    No apologies, I have a huge mancrush on this blog.

    [quote comment=”322325″]…If I recall correctly, the Viking cheerleaders were the Parkettes from St Louis Park High School. They wore very traditional high school cheerleader outfits.

    In the 70s, around the time the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders were selling a ton of posters, the Vikings decided to spice up the look of the Vikings cheerleaders and put out their own poster. There was some uproar about dressing high school girls up in the new uniforms, but you could buy the poster just about anywhere. (It was later revealed that some of the young women on the posters were professional models.)…Anyway, the connection to the Parkettes lasted until the mid 80s when the Vikings started recruiting their own cheer squad…[/quote]

    That’s too bad – I always thought this look was better than the “costumes” the cheerleaders now wear. There should be rules to what extend the the cheer squads can bastardize the teams unis. At least they should wear good stiped stockings.

    I can’t help but look through these pictures posted today and hear the NFL films music in my head. Don, dudda don dudda don dudda don…(insert trombone rif here)

    Awesome, even though I dislike the Pack. Do they still paint the lines by hand? I Can’t tell, but are there Dymo tape strips on the Dallas helmets?

  • Geeman | April 9, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”322334″][quote comment=”322325″]I can’t get the Vikings cheerleader photo to come up. I get a shot of the line of scrimmage instead.

    If I recall correctly, the Viking cheerleaders were the Parkettes from St Louis Park High School. They wore very traditional high school cheerleader outfits.

    In the 70s, around the time the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders were selling a ton of posters, the Vikings decided to spice up the look of the Vikings cheerleaders and put out their own poster. There was some uproar about dressing high school girls up in the new uniforms, but you could buy the poster just about anywhere. (It was later revealed that some of the young women on the posters were professional models.)

    Anyway, the connection to the Parkettes lasted until the mid 80s when the Vikings started recruiting their own cheer squad.

    Why am I posting two comments about cheerleaders in as many days?[/quote]

    My first ex-wife was one of those Parkettes who cheered at Viking games. Well, more like a danceline. Anyway, yeah, attire was traditional. Jumper sorta thing early in season, then sweater over cotton turtleneck, pleated skirt, rolled white socks, tennies when weather cooled.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    First wife was a pro cheerleader? Ricko, the legend around you grows!

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 2:27 pm |

    That picture MIGHT be at Mizzou.

  • Lwiedy | April 9, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”322342″]I don’t know of this has been said before but it’s the Clearwater Threshers not Thrashers as in the type of shark.[/quote]

    Common error. It’s identified correctly later in the item.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 9, 2009 at 2:35 pm |

    Has anyone else seen this image? It’s similar to the way the Lions’ new logo leaked – the toy truck. But this has a new font for the Jaguars wordmark. Anyone know if it’s a solid lead?

    http://www.flickr.co...

    And according to a message board post of someone who claims to have seen the new unis:

    Helmet same
    Helmet Logo same
    Wordmark changed(toy truck)
    No Gold except in the logos and wordmark
    Teal jerseys, white numbers outlined in black with black piping
    White jerseys, black numbers outlined in teal with teal piping
    White pants with black piping
    Black pants teal piping
    No leaping jaguar logos on the jerseys anymore
    Jaguars wordmark under the collar
    Numbers that match the new font

  • Nolan | April 9, 2009 at 2:38 pm |

    Texas Rangers wearing red caps, and sleeves with the white jersey again today.

    Dallas Morning News had the note that the players wanted to wear red last night, so they did. The original plan was for blue hats.

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”322371″]Has anyone else seen this image? It’s similar to the way the Lions’ new logo leaked – the toy truck. But this has a new font for the Jaguars wordmark. Anyone know if it’s a solid lead?

    http://www.flickr.co...

    And according to a message board post of someone who claims to have seen the new unis:

    Helmet same
    Helmet Logo same
    Wordmark changed(toy truck)
    No Gold except in the logos and wordmark
    Teal jerseys, white numbers outlined in black with black piping
    White jerseys, black numbers outlined in teal with teal piping
    White pants with black piping
    Black pants teal piping
    No leaping jaguar logos on the jerseys anymore
    Jaguars wordmark under the collar
    Numbers that match the new font[/quote]
    And the alt jersey is a throwback?

  • u2-horn | April 9, 2009 at 2:49 pm |

    They’ll keep wearing the red as long as they keep winning.

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”322372″]Texas Rangers wearing red caps, and sleeves with the white jersey again today.

    Dallas Morning News had the note that the players wanted to wear red last night, so they did. The original plan was for blue hats.[/quote]
    You don’t mess with a streak…

  • War Damn Eagle | April 9, 2009 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”322373″][quote comment=”322371″]Has anyone else seen this image? It’s similar to the way the Lions’ new logo leaked – the toy truck. But this has a new font for the Jaguars wordmark. Anyone know if it’s a solid lead?

    http://www.flickr.co...

    And according to a message board post of someone who claims to have seen the new unis:

    Helmet same
    Helmet Logo same
    Wordmark changed(toy truck)
    No Gold except in the logos and wordmark
    Teal jerseys, white numbers outlined in black with black piping
    White jerseys, black numbers outlined in teal with teal piping
    White pants with black piping
    Black pants teal piping
    No leaping jaguar logos on the jerseys anymore
    Jaguars wordmark under the collar
    Numbers that match the new font[/quote]
    And the alt jersey is a throwback?[/quote]

    It’s dubious to rely on anything posted on a message board, I know, but it’s interesting trying to discern fact from fiction. Some say the helmet is changing, some say it’s not. Some say more teal, some say more black. Who the hell knows. But I’m a Jags fan, and I’m really ready to find out. Shoot, the draft is only days away. Why not get on with the big announcement?

  • Shadeymonk | April 9, 2009 at 2:54 pm |

    Bring Back Boone

  • Matthew | April 9, 2009 at 3:00 pm |

    Can anyone identify the song on the time-lapse portion of the Royals scoreboard crown video?

    Even Shazam on the iPhone couldn’t get it.

    http://kansascity.ro...

  • Doug | April 9, 2009 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”322360″][quote comment=”322358″]Speaking of Iowa State, has this set been mentioned?

    Iowa State University Library Special Collections Football Set on Flickr

    Bonus for the picture of Matt Blair with the funky Sun Bowl caption.[/quote]

    What, no photo of Eppie Barney?[/quote]

    Great find Squid. Thanks for sharing. The Iowa State-Iowa game wasn’t played from the 1930s to 1977. So, I guess it’s safe to say that Larry’s picture probably isn’t Cyclones v. Hawkeyes game, especially based upon pics that Squid found from the 1930s.

    Belated thanks to Ricko for sharing his stuff here at UniWatch, too.

  • Clevo | April 9, 2009 at 3:03 pm |

    Indians P Zach Jackson has a logo on the ankles of his socks, looks like an Adidas logo, but he wears Nike shoes.

  • Nolan | April 9, 2009 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=\”322375\”][quote comment=\”322372\”]Texas Rangers wearing red caps, and sleeves with the white jersey again today.

    Dallas Morning News had the note that the players wanted to wear red last night, so they did. The original plan was for blue hats.[/quote]
    You don\’t mess with a streak…[/quote]

    Is one win really a streak?

  • MattDubya | April 9, 2009 at 3:11 pm |

    I dont want to jump to conclusions without all of the correct facts, so maybe someone else can do some more research but I do not believe that the Baltimore Colts had the first cheerleading squad.

    Your links from above are from Wikipedia (a great site, but not always accurate)and I would not be a true man or Redskins fan if I did not stick up for the first ladies of football and say that the Redskinettes were the first cheerleading squad in the NFL.

    http://www.redskins....

  • Christopher | April 9, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    RE: AJ Pierzynski’s flapless cool-flow. Here’s a better pic from today’s game (just captured it a minute ago):

    http://www.baseballr...

  • Lwiedy | April 9, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”322382″][quote comment=\”322375\”][quote comment=\”322372\”]Texas Rangers wearing red caps, and sleeves with the white jersey again today.

    Dallas Morning News had the note that the players wanted to wear red last night, so they did. The original plan was for blue hats.[/quote]
    You don\’t mess with a streak…[/quote]

    Is one win really a streak?[/quote]

    It’s the Rangers.

  • Clevo | April 9, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”322381″]Indians P Zach Jackson has a logo on the ankles of his socks, looks like an Adidas logo, but he wears Nike shoes.[/quote]

    upon further review, it looks like the Nike and swoosh wordmark. I don’t like it one bit.

  • u2-horn | April 9, 2009 at 3:28 pm |

    Last night Taylor Teagarden came in for Salty at catcher and was wearing blue gear with a blue hockey-style mask.

    Today he’s wearing red gear with a red hockey-style mask.

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 3:29 pm |

    Emlen Tunnell and Hank Gremminger tackle 49ers J.D. Smith, Milwaukee County Stadium, ca. 1959.

    And yes, the cheerleaders are wearing beanies. You never saw Milwaukee’s own Joanie Cunningham on Happy Days?

  • Mike Edgerly | April 9, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    I was at this early WFL game Jacksonville Sharks vs NY Stars at the Gator Bowl.

    http://picasaweb.goo...

    Notice the nearly full house behind Merle Harmon and that Yellow Ball. It was mostly freebies to make the game look good on TV. I remember a bunch of school buses coming to pick up most of the players from my Youth Baseball league. The lights went out at halftime and in retrospect, it’s a wonder they were turned back on. Of course none of us 11 and 12 year-olds wondered “how the heck are they going to make money off of this?”. Well, they didn’t…..

    Good times!

  • War Damn Eagle | April 9, 2009 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”322384″]RE: AJ Pierzynski’s flapless cool-flow. Here’s a better pic from today’s game (just captured it a minute ago):

    http://www.baseballr...

    That helmet is Wilson, not Rawlings.

  • War Damn Eagle | April 9, 2009 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”322390″][quote comment=”322384″]RE: AJ Pierzynski’s flapless cool-flow. Here’s a better pic from today’s game (just captured it a minute ago):

    http://www.baseballr...

    That helmet is Wilson, not Rawlings.[/quote]

    I think it’s a flapless version of this helmet:
    http://www.baseballs...

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”322340″]Hey Larry:

    You said:

    “My brother and I have been collecting DVDs of old games for a while. We’re part of a group of people who trade this type of material. We have other sports besides football, but football is our favorite.”

    and a link is provided to a screen-grab of a game. It looks like a college game, but can you identify the teams?

    Thanks for sharing your pictures and passion.[/quote]

    http://farm4.static....

    Doug if that is the one in question it is Iowa in the black vs Wisconin in the red from 1939

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”322389″]I was at this early WFL game Jacksonville Sharks vs NY Stars at the Gator Bowl.

    http://picasaweb.goo...

    Notice the nearly full house behind Merle Harmon and that Yellow Ball. It was mostly freebies to make the game look good on TV. I remember a bunch of school buses coming to pick up most of the players from my Youth Baseball league. The lights went out at halftime and in retrospect, it’s a wonder they were turned back on. Of course none of us 11 and 12 year-olds wondered “how the heck are they going to make money off of this?”. Well, they didn’t…..

    Good times![/quote]

    You’re gonna have to trust me on this, I suppose, but that Stars-Sharks game was the VERY first WFL telecast. I still have the template sketch of the uniforms I made while watching it. I used the details of pair of wideouts…Al Young for the Stars (black shoes spatted) and Tony Lomax, I believe (white Riddells with black snug-ties and snug-fit), for the Sharks (I’m at work; sketch is at home; and don’t ask why I remember such minutiae, because I don’t KNOW why, LOL).

    Notice the animation of the stork making a delivery. Good clue it was the first telecast.

    —Ricko

  • Nolan | April 9, 2009 at 3:59 pm |

    From a live blog of the Texas Rangers game:

    1:27: Message on the bulletin board in the Rangers clubhouse this morning “No Red Unis on the Road.” This from clubhouse manager Zack Minasian, who probably can’t stow all the different uniform combos the Rangers now own. Especially since they pretty much just created this red hats, white tops look out of the blue. The Rangers lead 5-0 after one inning while wearing Red hats today. Good luck, Zack, trying to keep the red stuff off the plane.

    source:
    http://insidecorner....

  • The Helmet Archive | April 9, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    […] Posted in Uncategorized by awbrashier on April 9, 2009 This great shot of the 1981 contest between The Citadel vs. Navy is from one of the photo albums that Today’s Edition of Uniwatchblog linked to. […]

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”322392″]Doug if that is the one in question it is Iowa in the black vs Wisconin in the red from 1939[/quote]

    If it is 1939, records seem to show that game was in Iowa City. I’m not sure their stadium had that much room from the sideline to the stands. Camp Randall might have.

    The reason I thought it might be Missouri/Iowa State is the weird double dropoff in that area as depicted in that photo. Reminds me of historic photos of Faurot Field. OTOH, a gold “I” would say “University of Iowa”.

    While looking that up, I found one of the strangest trophy’s I’ve seen: the Telephone Trophy, named in honor of crossed wires. ;-)

    http://mutigers.cstv...

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”322389″]I was at this early WFL game Jacksonville Sharks vs NY Stars at the Gator Bowl.

    http://picasaweb.goo...
    [/quote]

    Photo 35: Let’s see if we can guess what John Wilbur’s nickname was when he was a lad. :-)

    Photo 49: Chicago Fire Cheerleaders.

  • Mark K | April 9, 2009 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”322371″]Has anyone else seen this image? It’s similar to the way the Lions’ new logo leaked – the toy truck. But this has a new font for the Jaguars wordmark. Anyone know if it’s a solid lead?

    http://www.flickr.co...

    And according to a message board post of someone who claims to have seen the new unis:

    Helmet same
    Helmet Logo same
    Wordmark changed(toy truck)
    No Gold except in the logos and wordmark
    Teal jerseys, white numbers outlined in black with black piping
    White jerseys, black numbers outlined in teal with teal piping
    White pants with black piping
    Black pants teal piping
    No leaping jaguar logos on the jerseys anymore
    Jaguars wordmark under the collar
    Numbers that match the new font[/quote]
    If that’s true then they’re not nearly as bad as we’re being led to believe.

  • LarryB | April 9, 2009 at 4:10 pm |

    Here are some more from Iowa 1939

    Iowa vs Minnesota below

    http://farm4.static....

    Iowa vs Indiana below

    http://farm4.static....

    Iowa vs Notre Dame below

    http://farm4.static....

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”322397″][quote comment=”322389″]I was at this early WFL game Jacksonville Sharks vs NY Stars at the Gator Bowl.

    http://picasaweb.goo...
    [/quote]

    Photo 35: Let’s see if we can guess what John Wilbur’s nickname was when he was a lad. :-)

    Photo 49: Chicago Fire Cheerleaders.[/quote]

    Photo 39: Officials’ shirts (seeing as AFL refs have come up lately)

  • Squiddie | April 9, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    Yeah, I watched that WFL game because I was sure that in the future I’d be able to tell people that I watched the first WFL game. Oddly enough, that’s what I’m doing now.

    To tell you the truth, the only thing I remember about it was the Dickerod.

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”322401″]Yeah, I watched that WFL game because I was sure that in the future I’d be able to tell people that I watched the first WFL game. Oddly enough, that’s what I’m doing now.

    To tell you the truth, the only thing I remember about it was the Dickerod.[/quote]
    It’s a damn shame that innovation didn’t catch on.

  • Ricko | April 9, 2009 at 4:24 pm |

    And didn’t Alex Karas just LOVE talking about it.

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”322403″]And didn’t Alex Karas just LOVE talking about it.[/quote]
    This is as good a place as any to ask: when the NFL clips that little marker onto the chain to mark a 5-yard increment, why do they always go to the FURTHEST five yard line?

    IOW, if the line of scrimage for a 1st-and-ten is the 36, they will invariably clip that marker on at the 40, rather than the 45. Always seemed to me to be more accurate to go closer to where the ball will be.

  • Doug | April 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”322392″][quote comment=”322340″]Hey Larry:

    You said:

    “My brother and I have been collecting DVDs of old games for a while. We’re part of a group of people who trade this type of material. We have other sports besides football, but football is our favorite.”

    and a link is provided to a screen-grab of a game. It looks like a college game, but can you identify the teams?

    Thanks for sharing your pictures and passion.[/quote]

    http://farm4.static....

    Doug if that is the one in question it is Iowa in the black vs Wisconin in the red from 1939[/quote]

    Thanks for the update, Larry. Glad you shared your collection here at UniWatch.

  • Joe D | April 9, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    Not exaclty uni-related, but I’m looking for some help.

    I’m trying to find a good picture of a Detroit Tigers/Pittsburgh Pirates game. Since they don’t exactly play all the time, google images has only a few useable results and I was wondering if anyone has some good pictures available. I could be a few years old, it could be from spring training, it could be an all-star game, or even the 1909 World Series. I’m just looking for picture with a Pirate and Tiger in uniform.

    If you can help, thanks.

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”322406″]Not exaclty uni-related, but I’m looking for some help.

    I’m trying to find a good picture of a Detroit Tigers/Pittsburgh Pirates game. Since they don’t exactly play all the time, google images has only a few useable results and I was wondering if anyone has some good pictures available. I could be a few years old, it could be from spring training, it could be an all-star game, or even the 1909 World Series. I’m just looking for picture with a Pirate and Tiger in uniform.

    If you can help, thanks.[/quote]
    Try Corbis or Getty Images.

    I know these aren’t exactly what you’re looking for, but I found them without trying too hard.

    Definitely a Pirate and a Tiger

    The caption on this one says Basesball – Cardinals vs. Tigers. Oops.

  • Shadeymonk | April 9, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=\”322406\”]Not exaclty uni-related, but I\’m looking for some help.

    I\’m trying to find a good picture of a Detroit Tigers/Pittsburgh Pirates game. Since they don\’t exactly play all the time, google images has only a few useable results and I was wondering if anyone has some good pictures available. I could be a few years old, it could be from spring training, it could be an all-star game, or even the 1909 World Series. I\’m just looking for picture with a Pirate and Tiger in uniform.

    If you can help, thanks.[/quote]

    http://a570.ac-image...

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    Oops. Bad HTML in that second link that isn’t a link.

    The caption on this one says Basesball – Cardinals vs. Tigers. Oops.

  • Shadeymonk | April 9, 2009 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=\”322407\”][quote comment=\”322406\”]Not exaclty uni-related, but I\’m looking for some help.

    I\’m trying to find a good picture of a Detroit Tigers/Pittsburgh Pirates game. Since they don\’t exactly play all the time, google images has only a few useable results and I was wondering if anyone has some good pictures available. I could be a few years old, it could be from spring training, it could be an all-star game, or even the 1909 World Series. I\’m just looking for picture with a Pirate and Tiger in uniform.

    If you can help, thanks.[/quote]
    Try Corbis or Getty Images.

    I know these aren\’t exactly what you\’re looking for, but I found them without trying too hard.

    Definitely a Pirate and a Tiger

    The caption on this one says Basesball – Cardinals vs. Tigers. Oops.[/quote]

    One More

    http://photos.upi.co...

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”322409″]The caption on this one says Basesball – Cardinals vs. Tigers. Oops.[/quote]Great crowd for interleague in Pittsburgh.

  • kindredspirit | April 9, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    That Denver Pioneer mascot is much better than the hawk logo, which looks suspiciously like a pizza with a bite taken out if it. The school should listen to the people who want to go back to the old logo.

  • Aaron | April 9, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    http://us.st12.yimg....

    There’s a picture of the Wilson helmet that Pierzynski is using. It’s brand new this season from Wilson, not even in the catalog yet.

  • who cares | April 9, 2009 at 5:11 pm |

    Interesting fact #1 – for every stripe that is put on a sock a cute little squirrel gets run over on the Interstate. Shame on you.

    Interesting fact #2 – contrary to popular belief, stirrups were not originally made for baseball. On a lark Bill Dinneen participated in the Anglo-Boer war on the Anglo side. While in South Africa he noted that the hip young lads were wearing a stirrup like sock to the beach at which time it would be transformed into a bathing suit. He decided to don the sock in the second game of the Americans 1903 season.

    Interesting fact #3 – From 1950 to 2000 NBA players wearing white shoes hit 73.2% of their free throws while players wearing black shoes hit 76.7% of their free throws. This is a statistically significant difference at the 99% confidence interval.

    Interesting fact #4 – The NFL requires that all facemask forgeries supplying the league drop one copper penny into the vat from which they will pour facemasks into molds. This tradition dates back to the second year of Rozelle’s tenure. Apparently he was a huge Lincoln fan.

    Interesting fact #5 – The first soccer ball was made from an old piece of cork wrapped in a weeks worth of laundry.

  • pflava | April 9, 2009 at 5:25 pm |

    I’ve never been, but PNC looks like a fantastic place to watch a game. Beautiful view…

    http://pro.corbis.co...{54d4182d-67d0-4532-87c4-b08985e82f8e}

  • Carl | April 9, 2009 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”322414″]Interesting fact #1 – for every stripe that is put on a sock a cute little squirrel gets run over on the Interstate. Shame on you.

    Interesting fact #2 – contrary to popular belief, stirrups were not originally made for baseball. On a lark Bill Dinneen participated in the Anglo-Boer war on the Anglo side. While in South Africa he noted that the hip young lads were wearing a stirrup like sock to the beach at which time it would be transformed into a bathing suit. He decided to don the sock in the second game of the Americans 1903 season.

    Interesting fact #3 – From 1950 to 2000 NBA players wearing white shoes hit 73.2% of their free throws while players wearing black shoes hit 76.7% of their free throws. This is a statistically significant difference at the 99% confidence interval.

    Interesting fact #4 – The NFL requires that all facemask forgeries supplying the league drop one copper penny into the vat from which they will pour facemasks into molds. This tradition dates back to the second year of Rozelle’s tenure. Apparently he was a huge Lincoln fan.

    Interesting fact #5 – The first soccer ball was made from an old piece of cork wrapped in a weeks worth of laundry.[/quote]

    WTF? Maybe I’m too serious today.

  • Carl | April 9, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”322399″]Iowa vs Notre Dame below

    http://farm4.static....

    Navy on Black alert!

  • Teebz | April 9, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”322416″][quote comment=”322414″]Interesting fact #1 – for every stripe that is put on a sock a cute little squirrel gets run over on the Interstate. Shame on you.

    Interesting fact #2 – contrary to popular belief, stirrups were not originally made for baseball. On a lark Bill Dinneen participated in the Anglo-Boer war on the Anglo side. While in South Africa he noted that the hip young lads were wearing a stirrup like sock to the beach at which time it would be transformed into a bathing suit. He decided to don the sock in the second game of the Americans 1903 season.

    Interesting fact #3 – From 1950 to 2000 NBA players wearing white shoes hit 73.2% of their free throws while players wearing black shoes hit 76.7% of their free throws. This is a statistically significant difference at the 99% confidence interval.

    Interesting fact #4 – The NFL requires that all facemask forgeries supplying the league drop one copper penny into the vat from which they will pour facemasks into molds. This tradition dates back to the second year of Rozelle’s tenure. Apparently he was a huge Lincoln fan.

    Interesting fact #5 – The first soccer ball was made from an old piece of cork wrapped in a weeks worth of laundry.[/quote]

    WTF? Maybe I’m too serious today.[/quote]

    His mantra is his screen name.

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 5:49 pm |

    First round leader for worst get-up at the Masters. I guess if you’ve won the thing before, you can do what you want. Whaddya call that, the Bizarro Tiger look?

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • James | April 9, 2009 at 5:57 pm |

    Anyone know of a site where one could find out what style hat the Ball State baseball team wore in the 90s? Good golly, they have a site for everything else. (that made me sound old, huh?)

  • KT | April 9, 2009 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”322393″]You’re gonna have to trust me on this, I suppose, but that Stars-Sharks game was the VERY first WFL telecast. I still have the template sketch of the uniforms I made while watching it. I used the details of pair of wideouts…Al Young for the Stars (black shoes spatted) and Tony Lomax, I believe (white Riddells with black snug-ties and snug-fit), for the Sharks (I’m at work; sketch is at home; and don’t ask why I remember such minutiae, because I don’t KNOW why, LOL).

    Notice the animation of the stork making a delivery. Good clue it was the first telecast.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Don’t have to trust you. History shows that the Sharks hosted the Stars on July 11, 1974 in the first TVS WFL game.

    (All those screengrabs are from the NFL Films Lost Treasures special on the WFL.)

  • KT | April 9, 2009 at 6:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”322404″]
    This is as good a place as any to ask: when the NFL clips that little marker onto the chain to mark a 5-yard increment, why do they always go to the FURTHEST five yard line?

    IOW, if the line of scrimage for a 1st-and-ten is the 36, they will invariably clip that marker on at the 40, rather than the 45. Always seemed to me to be more accurate to go closer to where the ball will be.[/quote]

    High school official here: the mechanics are that you’re supposed to put the clip on the rearmost edge of the rearmost major yardline. I don’t know why, but that’s the way someone figured out it should be done and that’s the way we’re taught. I can try to find out why it is that way. I’m sure it made sense at the time…trust me, there’s a reason for everything.

    (BTW, the reason the clip exists is not to mark a 5-yard increment…it’s so that if someone screws up and moves the chains when they’re not supposed to or the chain gang has to drop the chains because play comes to their sideline or there’s a measurement or some other trickiness, you know exactly where the chains at the start of the series of downs. It’s often referred to as a butt-saver because it can save your butt in such a situation.)

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 6:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”322422″]High school official here: the mechanics are that you’re supposed to put the clip on the rearmost edge of the rearmost major yardline. I don’t know why, but that’s the way someone figured out it should be done and that’s the way we’re taught. I can try to find out why it is that way. I’m sure it made sense at the time…trust me, there’s a reason for everything.

    (BTW, the reason the clip exists is not to mark a 5-yard increment…it’s so that if someone screws up and moves the chains when they’re not supposed to or the chain gang has to drop the chains because play comes to their sideline or there’s a measurement or some other trickiness, you know exactly where the chains at the start of the series of downs. It’s often referred to as a butt-saver because it can save your butt in such a situation.)[/quote]

    Thanks for the info. Re: the buttsaver, I can say that from a lot of NFL-watching (as well as major college football-watching) when they trot the chains out that little clip is the only thing they look for: nobody asks the guy with the “starting point” pole to try and estimate where he should be.

    I’m not a geometry wizard, but it seems to me that any sort of error in making sure the chain is parallel to the sidelines would be magnified by putting the starting point 15 feet further away than it needs to be.

    If you should have a source of info on the “why” I certainly would appreciate it. Thanks again.

    (And after you get done with that one: why does the guy on the “other” sideline with a stick wait until AFTER the commericals to dash 40-50 yards down the field on a punt??) :-)

  • anotherguy | April 9, 2009 at 6:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”322419″]First round leader for worst get-up at the Masters. I guess if you’ve won the thing before, you can do what you want. Whaddya call that, the Bizarro Tiger look?

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...
    You can bet that there’s a sponsor behind this “kit”.

  • KT | April 9, 2009 at 7:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”322423″]
    Thanks for the info. Re: the buttsaver, I can say that from a lot of NFL-watching (as well as major college football-watching) when they trot the chains out that little clip is the only thing they look for: nobody asks the guy with the “starting point” pole to try and estimate where he should be.[/quote]

    In theory, they shouldn’t have to. The clip ostensibly replicates the environment that existed on the sideline (which is “official,” – as official as we can get) with regard to the position of the front and back chains in relation to a fixed point on the field (like a sextant and a star, if you will). Now, that’s as long as the field is marked correctly, which we take as an article of faith.

    And it’s up to the officials to ensure that the chain is “straight,” or parallel to the sidelines, both while it’s on the sideline and when it’s stretched for a measurement.

    [quote]
    I’m not a geometry wizard, but it seems to me that any sort of error in making sure the chain is parallel to the sidelines would be magnified by putting the starting point 15 feet further away than it needs to be.
    [/quote]

    Not sure I follow you.

    Starting spot of the series is established. Guy with stick at that yard line puts stick knob on sideline (or two yards back, actually, in high school). Other guy stretches chain until it’s in its full upright and locked position. Clip attached. Repeat as necessary. Again, everyone’s responsible for having the chain straight, but even if it’s not, the important thing is the back post, because we know that one was, at the start of the play, on the line of scrimmage (or, more precisely, the front edge of the neutral zone, which is as wide as the football is long). The post at the other end can do whatever it wants. Even if the chain isn’t straight, if we know the starting point and can replicate it with the clip at the back end of the next 5-yard line, we can straighten it out at the time of measurement.

    Perhaps that’s the answer – the distance between the back rod and the clip should be as small as it can be to ensure that we’ll get an accurate relative positioning, because as that distance increases, so does the margin for error. Like you noted, 15 feet that way. That could be the reason. But I’ve asked.

    But I will say that any time a measurement is within a few inches either way, there’s a margin for error. But it’s more about (a) the wing official trying to correctly judge where the front point of the football reached, often from as much as 25 yards away and (b ) the back chain guy getting the spot of his post correct based on that.

    We do the best we can.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 7:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”322398″]Has anyone else seen this image? It’s similar to the way the Lions’ new logo leaked – the toy truck. But this has a new font for the Jaguars wordmark. Anyone know if it’s a solid lead?

    http://www.flickr.co...

    And according to a message board post of someone who claims to have seen the new unis:

    Helmet same
    Helmet Logo same
    Wordmark changed(toy truck)
    No Gold except in the logos and wordmark
    Teal jerseys, white numbers outlined in black with black piping
    White jerseys, black numbers outlined in teal with teal piping
    White pants with black piping
    Black pants teal piping
    No leaping jaguar logos on the jerseys anymore
    Jaguars wordmark under the collar
    Numbers that match the new font[/quote]

    i’ve seen the logo slick…i can’t show it to you but i’d say much of what has been posted above is true BUT…not all of it — and i can tell you this … they’ve really fucked up what was one of the nicer uniforms (and underrated) in football

    of course, if you’re under 25, you’ll probably love it

  • DP30 | April 9, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    I haven’t seen it in the last two days of comments…but did anyone notice that the Mets logo on Mike Pelfrey’s left sleeve was missing during his start Wednesday night?

    I was at work when I 1st spotted it, so I didn’t have a chance to comment or get a screen grab at the time. Looked like everyone else was properly equipped.

  • tmac3217 | April 9, 2009 at 8:00 pm |

    What’s the record for the most number of home games played in a season before a team wears their standard home jersey? The Twins wore the “Twinkies” throwbacks for the opener, and then the “Softball Sammy” blues the last 3 games. Will we ever see the traditional pinstripes again (and I’m not talking about the sleeveless alternate either)?

  • Rodney | April 9, 2009 at 8:23 pm |

    The bulls are wearing green unis for the NBA’s go green promotion. Thing is its not the same one as the St. Patty’s day version which was green with black numbers and lettering with “Bulls” across the chest. These have red numbers and a red “Chicago” on the chest.

  • Mike N. | April 9, 2009 at 8:28 pm |

    How come the Mets have never tried a home/away/alt cap with an orange bill like this? Does that make too much sense to be considered by the team? Looks better than the black/blue caps IMO.

  • Tom K | April 9, 2009 at 8:32 pm |

    Those Bulls jerseys are uhhh interesting.

    I really dislike when NBA teams wear colors at home and this Go-green thing has gone wayyy too far, not it’s destroy NBA jerseys, though i actually liked the Nuggets version.

    Im gonna say the st pat’s green jerseys were far better and more relevent

  • Tom K | April 9, 2009 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”322426″][quote comment=”322398″]Has anyone else seen this image? It’s similar to the way the Lions’ new logo leaked – the toy truck. But this has a new font for the Jaguars wordmark. Anyone know if it’s a solid lead?

    http://www.flickr.co...

    And according to a message board post of someone who claims to have seen the new unis:

    Helmet same
    Helmet Logo same
    Wordmark changed(toy truck)
    No Gold except in the logos and wordmark
    Teal jerseys, white numbers outlined in black with black piping
    White jerseys, black numbers outlined in teal with teal piping
    White pants with black piping
    Black pants teal piping
    No leaping jaguar logos on the jerseys anymore
    Jaguars wordmark under the collar
    Numbers that match the new font[/quote]

    i’ve seen the logo slick…i can’t show it to you but i’d say much of what has been posted above is true BUT…not all of it — and i can tell you this … they’ve really fucked up what was one of the nicer uniforms (and underrated) in football

    of course, if you’re under 25, you’ll probably love it[/quote]

    Im 21 a Bears fan because of geography but I picked the Jags as my AFC team when they entered the league solely because of their kick ass jerseys. This is some sad news if they end up being as bad as you say.

  • Patrick in MI | April 9, 2009 at 8:58 pm |

    Are the Detroit Tigers not wearing any sort of memorial to George Kell this season?

  • Stuby | April 9, 2009 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”322431″]Those Bulls jerseys are uhhh interesting.

    I really dislike when NBA teams wear colors at home and this Go-green thing has gone wayyy too far, not it’s destroy NBA jerseys, though i actually liked the Nuggets version.

    Im gonna say the st pat’s green jerseys were far better and more relevent[/quote]

    The Bulls look exactly like the Milwaukee Bucks.

    Speaking of the Bucks, I just wanted to share this awesome card…

    http://farm4.static....

  • BurghFan | April 9, 2009 at 9:19 pm |

    Uni-related plans to honor the three fallen Pittsburgh police officers at the Pirates’ home opener, from http://community.pos... :

    The [Pirates] will wear Pittsburgh Bureau of Police caps in the game, as well as a commemorative patch. The visiting Houston Astros will wear those caps during pregame introductions. All caps will be signed, then auctioned off, with all proceeds benefiting the Pittsburgh Police Fallen Heroes Fund.

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 9:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”322429″]The bulls are wearing green unis for the NBA’s go green promotion. Thing is its not the same one as the St. Patty’s day version which was green with black numbers and lettering with “Bulls” across the chest. These have red numbers and a red “Chicago” on the chest.[/quote]
    Reduce, reuse, recycle?

  • AJ | April 9, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”322432″][quote comment=”322426″][quote comment=”322398″]Has anyone else seen this image? It’s similar to the way the Lions’ new logo leaked – the toy truck. But this has a new font for the Jaguars wordmark. Anyone know if it’s a solid lead?

    http://www.flickr.co...

    And according to a message board post of someone who claims to have seen the new unis:

    Helmet same
    Helmet Logo same
    Wordmark changed(toy truck)
    No Gold except in the logos and wordmark
    Teal jerseys, white numbers outlined in black with black piping
    White jerseys, black numbers outlined in teal with teal piping
    White pants with black piping
    Black pants teal piping
    No leaping jaguar logos on the jerseys anymore
    Jaguars wordmark under the collar
    Numbers that match the new font[/quote]

    i’ve seen the logo slick…i can’t show it to you but i’d say much of what has been posted above is true BUT…not all of it — and i can tell you this … they’ve really fucked up what was one of the nicer uniforms (and underrated) in football

    of course, if you’re under 25, you’ll probably love it[/quote]

    Im 21 a Bears fan because of geography but I picked the Jags as my AFC team when they entered the league solely because of their kick ass jerseys. This is some sad news if they end up being as bad as you say.[/quote]

    From NFL Shop again. Don’t know how accurate these are but look like a little change on the logo

    http://www.nflshop.c...

    http://www.nflshop.c...

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 9:46 pm |

    Oh, now I see why the Bulls couldn’t possibly have reused the St. Patrick’s Day unis.

    Those didn’t have this logo on them.

  • ChrismM70 | April 9, 2009 at 9:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”322346″]does anyone know where i can find the official colors of the kansas city chiefs? my sister is making me a scarf and the yarn she selected is more seminoles than chiefs! yikes! i need the actual shade so i can guide her from there. can anyone be of assistance?[/quote]

    I don’t know if you got an answer to you question yet, but my suggestion is to go to Home Depot and see if you can get a paint swatch that best matches the team colors. Home Depot sells official team paints of the NFL. Here’s the website:

    http://www.mostcolor...

  • JTH | April 9, 2009 at 9:57 pm |

    By the way, how sick am I? I was at the sign-up meeting for my son’s T-Ball earlier tonight and I seriously considered putting him on the team that practices on Monday nights even though there’s absolutely no way in hell he can ever make it to Monday night practices because of a scheduling conflict.

    Why? The orange team practices on Mondays and he’s never been on a team that wears orange for any sport.

    So I signed him up for the blue team, but now I’m lamenting the fact that I didn’t find out if it’s royal, navy or powder blue.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2009 at 10:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”322440″]By the way, how sick am I? I was at the sign-up meeting for my son’s T-Ball earlier tonight and I seriously considered putting him on the team that practices on Monday nights even though there’s absolutely no way in hell he can ever make it to Monday night practices because of a scheduling conflict.

    Why? The orange team practices on Mondays and he’s never been on a team that wears orange for any sport.[/quote]

    there’s a name for that

    powersaplasia

  • BurghFan | April 9, 2009 at 10:17 pm |

    does anyone know where i can find the official colors of the kansas city chiefs? my sister is making me a scarf and the yarn she selected is more seminoles than chiefs! yikes! i need the actual shade so i can guide her from there. can anyone be of assistance?

    http://www.ssur.org

  • scott | April 9, 2009 at 10:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”322428″]What’s the record for the most number of home games played in a season before a team wears their standard home jersey? The Twins wore the “Twinkies” throwbacks for the opener, and then the “Softball Sammy” blues the last 3 games. Will we ever see the traditional pinstripes again (and I’m not talking about the sleeveless alternate either)?[/quote]

    Not sure what the Twins are thinking, but they need to break out the home whites and look like an MLB team already.

  • Jon Jon | April 9, 2009 at 11:15 pm |

    Lets take a stab at this logo puzzle…

    Top Row, L to R: Grizzlies, Indians, Devils, Red Sox, Bills, Coyotes, Marlins, Giants (NY)

    Row 2: Yankees, (pass), Florida Panthers?, Blues, Knicks, Athletics, Cowboys, Cavaliers

    Row 3: Hawks, Buccaneers, Padres, Phillies, (pass), Celtics, White Sox, Penguins

    Row 4: Broncos, Blue Jackets, Heat, Raptors, Blackhawks, Wild, Sabres, Jaguars

    Row 5: Senators, Tigers, Blackhawks, 49ers, Mets, Lions, Clippers, Royals

    Row 6: Rams, Oilers, Warriors, Sacramento Kings, Mavericks, Nationals, Orioles, NY Rangers

    Row 7: Jazz, Pirates, Red Wings, Texans, (pass), Pistons?, St. Louis Cardinals, Wizards

    Row 8: Magic, Rays, Braves, Vikings, Hurricanes, Steelers, Browns, Brewers

    Row 9: Predators?, Saints, Nets, Dodgers, Bears, (pass), Bulls, Avalanche

    So I’m passing on four and have question marks on three. And yeah, I missed the part that the author wrote about not posting answers until I already went through it…so to hell with it. Pretty enjoyable to try on this lazy Thursday night though.

  • Mike Miller | April 9, 2009 at 11:20 pm |

    In the Frozen Four semifinal, Vermont was wearing some strange green helmets with lots of gold/yellow streaks. It also looked like there were little stars on the lower back of the helmet like merit decals.

  • Nick | April 10, 2009 at 12:22 am |

    Bronson Arroyo was wearing a cap with the old grey under bill today.

    Couldn’t get any caps though.

  • MPowers1634 | April 10, 2009 at 12:31 am |

    [quote comment=”322441″][quote comment=”322440″]By the way, how sick am I? I was at the sign-up meeting for my son’s T-Ball earlier tonight and I seriously considered putting him on the team that practices on Monday nights even though there’s absolutely no way in hell he can ever make it to Monday night practices because of a scheduling conflict.

    Why? The orange team practices on Mondays and he’s never been on a team that wears orange for any sport.[/quote]

    there’s a name for that

    powersaplasia[/quote]

    Now, now Phil!

    The Chain clip is a great tool, ESPECIALLYduring the resetting of the chains after the 1st and 3rd quarters have ended.

  • jason | April 10, 2009 at 12:33 am |

    I have not read the comments yet, but as a former baseball player who wore my pants below my shoes i know that many players who wear that style poke their cleat spikes through their pants for two purposes

    1. to hold them down below the cleats.
    2. so their spikes can still dig into the ground!

    I really dont mind players who wear baggy pants because i know how comfortable they can be.

  • Mary | April 10, 2009 at 12:56 am |

    [quote comment=”322328″][quote comment=”322317″]not uni related…but very sad…

    http://cbs2.com/loca...

    Very sad indeed! I expect the Angels to have a memorial patch/armband soon.[/quote]

    They will.

    Aside from that, devastating to team, fans and family. I live by the intersection and dropped a rose off at the memorial today. It spans two corners of the intersection. Very emotional place to be, as two other innocent young people also lost their lives, and Cal State Fullerton’s catcher, who was also in the car, is in critical condition at UCI. Angel nation is in a state of shock and disbelief. Drunk Driving Kills.

  • Brian Weingartz | April 10, 2009 at 1:09 am |

    I have officiated lower level football games with both teams in white and at lower levels it is not really a problem. Especially if the teams have different color helmets or pants. One time, several years ago I officiated a playoff high school basketball game where one team wore gold uniforms which were like Iowa Hawkeye gold and the visitors showed up with uniforms which were like Georgia Tech gold. The colors were different enough but we had to remember to call the teams by the actual color of their jersey numbers (one wore white numbers and the other wore black). By doing this we hopefully wouldn’t say “gold ball” and have both teams think it was their ball.

  • KT | April 10, 2009 at 1:36 am |

    Did that once, too…two teams with similar uniforms in the first game…second game one team was in white and one in colors and it was sooooooo much easier. Much easier than I thought it would be. Made a bigger difference than I thought it would.

  • Elvin | April 10, 2009 at 11:03 am |

    Hey, I noticed two pics of “Apollo Creed” toward the bottom of Larry’s NFLa file.

  • anotherguy | April 10, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”322425″]In theory, they shouldn’t have to. The clip ostensibly replicates the environment that existed on the sideline (which is “official,” – as official as we can get) with regard to the position of the front and back chains in relation to a fixed point on the field (like a sextant and a star, if you will). Now, that’s as long as the field is marked correctly, which we take as an article of faith.

    And it’s up to the officials to ensure that the chain is “straight,” or parallel to the sidelines, both while it’s on the sideline and when it’s stretched for a measurement.[/quote]
    Right-my point here was that it’s far less of a “second choice” or buttsaver and far more of the first (and only) thing relied upon when the chains come out.

    Whether or not the sticks need to be abandoned because a play goes to the sideline, when a measurement is called for that stick at the other end of the chain is virtually ignored.

    [quote comment=”322425″]Not sure I follow you.

    Starting spot of the series is established. Guy with stick at that yard line puts stick knob on sideline (or two yards back, actually, in high school). Other guy stretches chain until it’s in its full upright and locked position. Clip attached. Repeat as necessary. Again, everyone’s responsible for having the chain straight, but even if it’s not, the important thing is the back post, because we know that one was, at the start of the play, on the line of scrimmage (or, more precisely, the front edge of the neutral zone, which is as wide as the football is long). The post at the other end can do whatever it wants. Even if the chain isn’t straight, if we know the starting point and can replicate it with the clip at the back end of the next 5-yard line, we can straighten it out at the time of measurement.

    Perhaps that’s the answer – the distance between the back rod and the clip should be as small as it can be to ensure that we’ll get an accurate relative positioning, because as that distance increases, so does the margin for error. Like you noted, 15 feet that way. That could be the reason. But I’ve asked.[/quote]

    Right-I’m sure there is a reason, but I’ve never heard it: and I’m an inquisitive type of guy I guess. :-)

    To take it to an absurd example: with the LOS for a first-and-ten at the 35.25 yard line, instead of putting a clip on the chain roughly nine inches from the point needed for a new set of downs, they’ll put it on the chain fifteen feet, nine inches away.

    Maybe the key here is your statement that it is that much closer to the “back” stick: I’m just curious as to the reasoning for this convention/rule.

    Thanks again!

  • Josh Petty | April 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    In the video of Patrick Sharp “throwing” out the first pitch, did his jersey have the William Wirtz memorial patch? Looked like it did. There was certianly something on the jersey where the patch was located last season.