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The Doc Ginn Files, Vol. 2

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Time to pay another visit to our friend Will “Doc” Ginn (if you missed his Uni Watch debut, look here). Here’s his latest batch of unusual memorabilia:

• “I’ll bet you’ve never seen these three stickers together,” says Doc. Interesting how they didn’t try to make “Washington” fit in that little well between the “b” and the left wrist, the way they did with “Capital” and “Baltimore.”

• Here’s a rarity: a World Team Tennis bumper sticker — with a suggestive slogan to boot.

• And speaking of suggestive bumper stickers from fringe sports leagues, check this out. The team in question is the Connecticut Bicentennials of the NASL.

• Apparently sports in the 1970s was on big sexytime-o-rama. Nice to see the Spirit stuck with Pittsburgh’s black/gold theme, though.

• “I have never seen this Pistons logo anywhere else,” says Doc. Me nether. Dig the basketball-patterned “hubcaps.”

• Before the NFL’s Houston Texas, there were the WFL’s Houston Texans. I love — love — the “globe” in the center. If the WFL had used that for their logo, instead of this, they might still be around today.

• Did you realize that WFL teams played a 20-game schedule? I didn’t, until Doc showed me this.

• More WFL ephemera here. Note that the signature at lower-left is from a guy identified as “Portland Storm Governor.” Man, a football team with a governor? I thought that was strictly a hockey thing.

• “Love this little Houston Rockets guy,” says Doc. Me too.

• And speaking of the Rockets, I had actually forgotten that they once played in San Diego.

That’ll do for now. My thanks to Doc for sharing more of his stash with us.

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The Proctor Chronicles, Continued: Terry Proctor has an interesting take on the snafu involving the North Lawndale basketball uniforms. Dig:

I put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the manufacturer and then the dealer that sold the uniforms to the school. Since the majority of basketball uniforms are sold for use in high schools, it should be the manufacturer’s first responsibility to make garments that comply with the rules set forth by the NFHS (National Federation of State High School Athletic Associations), which are clearly outlined on the NFHS web site.

I personally check over the uniform rules before each season. For example, in 2008-09 every home team was supposed to wear white uniforms, rather than gold or light blue or silver gray. This rule was announced two years ago, in order to give schools enough lead time. But as I watched high school games this season, I saw that many schools were still wearing light (non-white) colors at home. When I would ask about it I was told that “the local association gave us a waiver.” Well, that’s fine. But in a state competition, the state association will not be so understanding. That’s what happened in Illinois.

Are the uniform rules silly? Yes, a lot of them are. But they’re presented clearly and understandably to the schools and with plenty of lead time to make the changes. ”¦

I couldn’t stand to know that a uniform I sold was declared illegal and ended up costing a team a game (or worse, a state championship). Without bragging, I take enough pride in my craft to know the rules going in. I’ve alerted manufacturers of impending changes so that they can check them out and make appropriate corrections. I’ve had to tell schools that a particular design feature or lettering graphic they want is not legal and then I suggest acceptable options.

No, I feel the ultimate blame for this incident lies with the manufacturer/sales agent. They frankly did not do their homework. It’s just that simple.

In case you missed it yesterday afternoon, my own take on the North Lawndale situation is here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: As promised, my “I flushed the toilet at the Mets’ new stadium” T-shirt is now available on eBay. ”¦ The Lions’ new helmet logo and wordmark have been leaked — by the NFL Shop. They might take that item down, but too late — it’s all over the web now. ”¦ Several readers have noted that Xavier’s C.J. Anderson wore brown tape over his white socks during the Xavier/Wisconsin game. But I think he was actually wearing low socks and sweatbands, not tape. ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Admirably obsessive breakdown of the Rockies’ performance in each of their uniforms here. ”¦ Jeff Popovich notes that the L.A. Galaxy and D.C. United both wore American flag sleeve patches on Sunday. “I don’t remember flags being on kits before,” he says. Anyone know more? ”¦ Bizarre scene in Clevo the other day, as a Lake Erie Monsters hockey game had to be postponed because the pink ice (for breast cancer awareness) became unplayable (thanks, Vince). ”¦ Check this out: An old Pennsylvania Railroad baseball uniform with safety messages. ”¦ Here’s something odd: Boomer Esiason wearing a No. 63 helmet (with thanks to Stephen King). ”¦ Lots of old Wrigley Field photos here, and old Comiskey pics here. My favorite: Chisox usherettes (nice find by Steve Shanabruch). ”¦ Here’s a new one, at least to me: Some NCAA umps have been wearing pullovers with zip-off sleeves. Reminds me of the button-on sleeves that players used to wear (interesting find by Rob Montoya). ”¦ I’m pretty sure we’ve covered this before, but someone please refresh my memory: What’s the deal with the Bears wearing block numerals? ”¦ Dog Bites Man Dept.: MLB is once again warning players not to pull their pant cuffs down under their shoe heels. They go through this dance every season and then the players keep doing it anyway. ”¦ Good mask-painting story here (with thanks to Mark Snider). ”¦ Is it possible that the good people at Nike might be selling a substandard product? This article thinks so (with thanks to Greg Riffenburgh). ”¦ Is this the cast of a high school musical? A troupe of mimes? Nope — it’s the 1982 boys’ gymnastics team from Alan Borock‘s high school. ”¦ Best White Sox ever, by uni number (with thanks to Steve Johnston). ”¦ You wouldn’t believe the response I got to yesterday’s meat bracket (among other things, the national meat buyer for SuperTarget liked the article so much that he’s sending me some steaks) — never imagined it would generate so much fun feedback. My only regret: I forgot to work a reference to this 45 into the piece. ”¦ And speaking of meat, the fourth graf of this item states that the new Yankee Stadium will include “a window found in the left-field concourse of the Field Level where fans can see butchers from Lobel’s of New York [best butcher shop in NYC — PL] preparing prime, dry-aged steaks to be served in various locations in the Stadium.” … Now that’s some nice eye candy right there (thanks, Scott). ”¦ A 1910 New York Giants uniform was appraised on Antiques Roadshow the other night (with thanks to Casey Lute). ”¦ Chris Mycoskie reports that the Louisiana-Lafayette baseball team has been going high-cuffed recently.

 
  
 
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    awww… paul… you dont save ticket stubs?!?! i save all of mine, i have a HUGE collection at home!

    [quote comment=”319100″]awww… paul… you dont save ticket stubs?!?! i save all of mine, i have a HUGE collection at home![/quote]

    I have all my old ones from when I was a kid. Ticket stubs were works of art back then. Now they’re just generic computer output.

    [quote comment=”319102″][quote comment=”319100″]awww… paul… you dont save ticket stubs?!?! i save all of mine, i have a HUGE collection at home![/quote]

    I have all my old ones from when I was a kid. Ticket stubs were works of art back then. Now they’re just generic computer output.[/quote]
    My dad used to keep all his stubs from old Johnstown Jets games in the Eastern Hockey League and he’d tape them together end to end. By the end of the season, he’d have a long strip of tickets starting at the top of his wall and alomst reaching the floor.

    I hate what TicketMaster, et al have done to tickets. I could have a stack and not know the difference between a race, a game and a concert. At least Pitt still puts some nice photos on their football and basketball packages.

    I used to collect my stubs. Now, I used them for the special offers they might have on the back (or a free Big Mac should the Pens score during a designated power play) or for bookmarks.

    [quote comment=”319102″][quote comment=”319100″]awww… paul… you dont save ticket stubs?!?! i save all of mine, i have a HUGE collection at home![/quote]

    I have all my old ones from when I was a kid. Ticket stubs were works of art back then. Now they’re just generic computer output.[/quote]

    true… i dont think i have any that really stand out. i’ll snap some pics and send them to you soon. but i save them more for the memory

    All the US-based MLS teams have the American flag on their jersey sleeves (Toronto FC sport the Canadian flag, of course).

    [quote comment=”319101″]Boo meat![/quote]
    boo veggies…no, not really, I like both.

    Regarding the Lions’ logo leak, this reminds me of the time I was working at the Pirates Clubhouse Store. The year the Pirates changed to this logo: link

    Early in spring training we were set to have this big merchandise unveiling. We dedicated an entire wall to the new gear and had a tarp to cover the wall until the approved time, etc, etc.

    Too bad all throughout the Christmas season we had a watch in our display case with said logo on it. Two weeks before the unveiling date, our head buyer called us about to have a stroke, asking us to pull the watch from the case.

    No one really recognized it, and it was leaked in about four or five stores in western PA months before it was ready for the public.

    Now, with the internet, things like that are going to be all over the place.

    I’ve also wondered about the Bears block numbers, but the reference photo gives me the creeps. The guy on the field is Chuck Hughes of the Lions, and he’s dead.

    Re: baseball pants cuffs tucked under the shoe heels

    I attended some Spring Training games this past week and observed just how prevalent this practice has become. Aside from greats like Nyjer Morgan and at-least-oks like Jeff Keppinger and Adam Rosales, I could scarcely find a player who did not have his cuffs tucked under his heels.

    It was nauseating.

    I have not yet seen a baseball manager or coach wearing pajama pants, but you have to figure that such a day will eventually come. After all, George Hendrick maintained his low-cuff look once he became a coach, instead of giving in to The Man and assuming a more traditional pair of pants.

    So the question is: Who will be the first pajamas-wearing coach or manager?

    In 1973 the bears white jerseys for the first half of the year had the block numbers because they were not tackle twill but rather (heat pressed? is that the term for screened numbers)
    Poor choice of picture because the down lion is Chuck Hughes who died on the field during that game.

    i think the ricko can tell us all about the bears block numbers (or one of the chicago UWers, like winter classic roving reporter JTH…); in fact, that pic looks like something from the ricko files

    …paging ricko

    [quote comment=”319109″]I’ve also wondered about the Bears block numbers, but the reference photo gives me the creeps. The guy on the field is Chuck Hughes of the Lions, and he’s dead.[/quote]

    An absolutely chilling photo when you know the situation around it. Looking at the officials and Butkus…no one has a clue.

    About the Boomer picture from the ticker ( link), I think that was a tribute to Joe Walter (offensive tackle that wore 63). He was waived the Friday before that game (I think it was Pittsburgh) so that was Boomer’s tribute/protest.

    [quote comment=”319112″]In 1973 the bears white jerseys for the first half of the year had the block numbers because they were not tackle twill but rather (heat pressed? is that the term for screened numbers)
    Poor choice of picture because the down lion is Chuck Hughes who died on the field during that game.[/quote]
    Could be worse: you could have Butkus autograph said photo.

    Not sure what’s worse: a fan would want the photo signed or that Butkus would agree to sign it.

    [quote comment=”319115″]About the Boomer picture from the ticker (  link ), I think that was a tribute to Joe Walter (offensive tackle that wore 63). He was waived the Friday before that game (I think it was Pittsburgh) so that was Boomer’s tribute/protest.[/quote]
    I think I remember many of the Bengals players having a number 63 hand-written on their helmets during Super Bowl XXIII too.

    Does anyone know where I can get a Power Balance wrist band – just like the one worn by Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. I found a few sites selling similar wrist bands but not exactly the same. Links below with photos. Thanks.

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”319119″]Does anyone know where I can get a Power Balance wrist band – just like the one worn by Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. I found a few sites selling similar wrist bands but not exactly the same. Links below with photos. Thanks.

    link

    link

    did you try the source?

    Does it appear that there are no jersey numbers on the “Chicago” script jerseys to anyone else?

    Likely due to the fact that my NBA interest died when Bill Russell retired, but I don’t think I have ever seen the Bulls with scripted “Chicago” on their unis. Was that standard? Just something that they changed from during MJ’s early years (he looks very young in that picture).

    They didn’t exactly do much innovation with that Lions logo, did they? Wait- it’s the Lions. Never mind.

    [quote comment=”319119″]Does anyone know where I can get a Power Balance wrist band – just like the one worn by Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. I found a few sites selling similar wrist bands but not exactly the same. Links below with photos. Thanks.

    link

    link

    WTF

    As per the NCAA umpires.

    The uniform rules are VERY strict for umpires and the pullovers available are basically 1 type.

    My guess is that he rolled his sleevess up as many umps often do.

    The long sleeves often hinder use of the indicator and such.

    [quote comment=”319122″]Likely due to the fact that my NBA interest died when Bill Russell retired, but I don’t think I have ever seen the Bulls with scripted “Chicago” on their unis. Was that standard? Just something that they changed from during MJ’s early years (he looks very young in that picture).[/quote]

    That was the Bulls road set for the late’70s and early’80s; “Chicago” script with the number offset, like a baseball TV number. The home set had the vertically arched block “Bulls” we are all familiar with, but the number was also offset, which I always thought looked weird on the home set.

    [quote comment=”319128″]Boomer was on the Bengals when they switched to the jerseys with the cat on the sleeve?

    link

    He finished his career there in 97….of course after he nearly finished the Jets…I will never forgive you “Boomer”…

    That was the Bulls road set for the late’70s and early’80s; “Chicago” script with the number offset, like a baseball TV number. The home set had the vertically arched block “Bulls” we are all familiar with, but the number was also offset, which I always thought looked weird on the home set.

    For a couple of seasons, the “BULLS” block strip was not vertically arched.

    [quote comment=”319126″]As per the NCAA umpires.

    The uniform rules are VERY strict for umpires and the pullovers available are basically 1 type.

    My guess is that he rolled his sleevess up as many umps often do.

    The long sleeves often hinder use of the indicator and such.[/quote]

    what’s up with the Miller Lite add in the pic? they must be playing at a minor league park.

    All MLS teams are wearing the USA flag patch on their sleeves starting this season (except Toronto FC, who will, of course, wear the Canadian flag). As a result, the MLS patch is bigger than previous seasons to match the size of the flag patch.

    [quote comment=”319124″][quote comment=”319119″]Does anyone know where I can get a Power Balance wrist band – just like the one worn by Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. I found a few sites selling similar wrist bands but not exactly the same. Links below with photos. Thanks.

    link

    link

    WTF[/quote]

    From the Power Balance website: “POWER BALANCE was developed as the marriage of two ideas: First, years of extensive research into holographic and lenticular media showed the complexity of the hologram and the fact that it can be programmed to hold certain frequencies. Second, further research was necessary to understand what frequency it was that best promoted energy flow throughout the body. Once discovered, this led to the unconventional programming of bio-resonating frequencies onto holograms. The result was POWER BALANCE. Similar forms of this technology have been used in Eastern medicine for centuries and are quickly being introduced and embraced in the west.”

    Sounds very high tech. I’m going to find my old Upper Deck cards now. They had a hologram. If I tape a Barry Bonds to my thigh will that make me a sex machine?

    I know that this is late for today, but during the WBC Final last night, but Yong-Kyu Lee tried to steal second in the 5th and ran right into the shortstop’s knee with his face and batting helmet.

    The helmet brim broke and it actually broke the helmet in three places. Picture below.

    link

    Video of the slide here, about 1/3 of the way in. Plus Pedro Gomez with the aftermath.

    link

    [quote comment=”319113″]i think the ricko can tell us all about the bears block numbers (or one of the chicago UWers, like winter classic roving reporter JTH…); in fact, that pic looks like something from the ricko files

    …paging ricko[/quote]

    Chuck Hughes died on the field in 1971. Bears also may have worn those block road numbers in ’72, but I’m not sure. They also had a set of home jerseys that were sans stripes for at least two seasons, I think. Timmy B would know for sure.

    Interestingly enough, the Lions did NOT wear any kind of memorial patch to Hughes that year. It was before pro athletes came to realize they were the center of the universe.

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”319134″][quote comment=”319124″][quote comment=”319119″]Does anyone know where I can get a Power Balance wrist band – just like the one worn by Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. I found a few sites selling similar wrist bands but not exactly the same. Links below with photos. Thanks.

    link

    link

    WTF[/quote]

    From the Power Balance website: “POWER BALANCE was developed as the marriage of two ideas: First, years of extensive research into holographic and lenticular media showed the complexity of the hologram and the fact that it can be programmed to hold certain frequencies. Second, further research was necessary to understand what frequency it was that best promoted energy flow throughout the body. Once discovered, this led to the unconventional programming of bio-resonating frequencies onto holograms. The result was POWER BALANCE. Similar forms of this technology have been used in Eastern medicine for centuries and are quickly being introduced and embraced in the west.”

    Sounds very high tech. I’m going to find my old Upper Deck cards now. They had a hologram. If I tape a Barry Bonds to my thigh will that make me a sex machine?[/quote]
    Once discovered, this led to the unconventional programming of bio-resonating frequencies onto holograms. The result was YANKEES SOD. (fixed)

    [quote comment=”319102″][quote comment=”319100″]awww… paul… you dont save ticket stubs?!?! i save all of mine, i have a HUGE collection at home![/quote]

    I have all my old ones from when I was a kid. Ticket stubs were works of art back then. Now they’re just generic computer output.[/quote]
    For the most part, yes, they are the generic pieces of crap. However, I have found that to be true for single-game tickets only. Season tickets, across the board, tend to have pictures or some nice design on them that tends to be unique for each game. Also, I have saved tickets from the 2006 Stanley Cup Finals and the 2006 Chick-Fil-A Bowl, and those tickets are very unique in their design. Definite keepers (despite the VT chokejob in the CFA Bowl)

    [quote comment=”319103″][quote comment=”319102″][quote comment=”319100″]awww… paul… you dont save ticket stubs?!?! i save all of mine, i have a HUGE collection at home![/quote]

    I have all my old ones from when I was a kid. Ticket stubs were works of art back then. Now they’re just generic computer output.[/quote]
    My dad used to keep all his stubs from old Johnstown Jets games in the Eastern Hockey League and he’d tape them together end to end. By the end of the season, he’d have a long strip of tickets starting at the top of his wall and alomst reaching the floor.

    I hate what TicketMaster, et al have done to tickets. I could have a stack and not know the difference between a race, a game and a concert. At least Pitt still puts some nice photos on their football and basketball packages.

    I used to collect my stubs. Now, I used them for the special offers they might have on the back (or a free Big Mac should the Pens score during a designated power play) or for bookmarks.[/quote]
    I used to save everything, tickets programs etc… but what did me in with the tickets is when teams started putting action shots of players on the tickets. That’s cool and all if it is going to be your franchise player, but I have tickets from both the Patriots and Celtics featuring players that had been long cut or traded before the game ever arrived (Lawyer Milloy and Ricky Davis to be specific). It also bums me out that they don’t tear the tickets any more. Everything is scanned now.

    [quote comment=”319138″][quote comment=”319102″][quote comment=”319100″]awww… paul… you dont save ticket stubs?!?! i save all of mine, i have a HUGE collection at home![/quote]

    I have all my old ones from when I was a kid. Ticket stubs were works of art back then. Now they’re just generic computer output.[/quote]
    For the most part, yes, they are the generic pieces of crap. However, I have found that to be true for single-game tickets only. Season tickets, across the board, tend to have pictures or some nice design on them that tends to be unique for each game. Also, I have saved tickets from the 2006 Stanley Cup Finals and the 2006 Chick-Fil-A Bowl, and those tickets are very unique in their design. Definite keepers (despite the VT chokejob in the CFA Bowl)[/quote]
    The only decent ticket stubs I’ve gotten recently were from the Navy Games I went to with my friend, who had a pair of season tickets. I wouldn’t call them works of art, but they were classy and individualized.

    [quote comment=”319114″][quote comment=”319109″]I’ve also wondered about the Bears block numbers, but the reference photo gives me the creeps. The guy on the field is Chuck Hughes of the Lions, and he’s dead.[/quote]

    An absolutely chilling photo when you know the situation around it. Looking at the officials and Butkus…no one has a clue.[/quote]
    Actually, the story goes that Butkus immediately recognized that something was very wrong and yelled over to the Lions’ sideline for help. Many people misinterpreted it as some kind of celebration/taunting.

    [quote comment=”319134″][quote comment=”319124″][quote comment=”319119″]Does anyone know where I can get a Power Balance wrist band – just like the one worn by Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. I found a few sites selling similar wrist bands but not exactly the same. Links below with photos. Thanks.

    link

    link

    WTF[/quote]

    From the Power Balance website: “POWER BALANCE was developed as the marriage of two ideas: First, years of extensive research into holographic and lenticular media showed the complexity of the hologram and the fact that it can be programmed to hold certain frequencies. Second, further research was necessary to understand what frequency it was that best promoted energy flow throughout the body. Once discovered, this led to the unconventional programming of bio-resonating frequencies onto holograms. The result was POWER BALANCE. Similar forms of this technology have been used in Eastern medicine for centuries and are quickly being introduced and embraced in the west.”

    Sounds very high tech. I’m going to find my old Upper Deck cards now. They had a hologram. If I tape a Barry Bonds to my thigh will that make me a sex machine?[/quote]

    and, the good news, the more money you spend on hologram bracelets at “power balance”, the more chances tom cruise will come to your home and give you a personality test!

    [quote]Butkus immediately recognized that something was very wrong and yelled over to the Lions’ sideline for help. Many people misinterpreted it as some kind of celebration/taunting[/quote]

    butkus taunting?

    /im shocked…SHOCKED at the insinuation

    Bears wore block numbers on the white mesh jerseys early in season from 1971 thru 1973, then switched to normal durene jerseys late in season. On the home front, Bears wore normal rounded numerals on the mesh navy jerseys, but had NO orange and white sleeve stripes during the 1971-1973 early season era. Bears would switch to navy durene for the cold games late in season.

    Lions did not have memorial patch for Chuck Hughes true, but DID sport a black armband on the left sleeve. It covered the thick inner NW stripe on both white and honolulu blue jerseys. They started the wearing the armband for the game after Hughes tragic passing, a 1971 Monday nighter at Milwaukee against the Packers.

    Hope this helps.

    What’s the deal with the Bears wearing block numerals?

    I figured they were just cheap knock-off jerseys from China that Halas scored off of eBay.

    [quote comment=”319105″]All the US-based MLS teams have the American flag on their jersey sleeves (Toronto FC sport the Canadian flag, of course).[/quote]

    This is new to the league this year. Personally, I think the flag patch addition was a bit of foreshadowing that the league would expand to Canada again (Vancouver was awarded a team a couple days ago). Toronto has been in the league for 3 years without any flag patches, so the timing of the addition of the flag was a little suspect.

    Personally, I don’t care for them. If you’re so ignorant that you have no clue what country these franchises are in, then you need to go jump off a bridge.

    Remember the brewha that we’ve had in the past with pink jersey in college football practices.

    Well it goes over better in Brazil.

    link

    I could identify all the dunk contestants in the “eye candy” pic, except who’s the Indiana Pacer? (And I’m not sure I’ve seen that type of script before on a Pacers uni)

    Is it possible for someone more computer skilled than I am to put up the old/new Lions helmet logos as a side by side? I can’t really tell the difference. For the wordmark, it looks very similar to the Blue Jays wordmark.

    [quote comment=”319134″]

    Sounds very high tech. I’m going to find my old Upper Deck cards now. They had a hologram. If I tape a Barry Bonds to my thigh will that make me a sex machine?[/quote]

    More likely it will shrink your testicles.

    [quote comment=”319111″]I have not yet seen a baseball manager or coach wearing pajama pants, but you have to figure that such a day will eventually come. After all, George Hendrick maintained his low-cuff look once he became a coach, instead of giving in to The Man and assuming a more traditional pair of pants.

    So the question is: Who will be the first pajamas-wearing coach or manager?[/quote]

    Don’t know if this has been discussed already, but I went into the local sporting goods store (TX) to get baseball pants for my 6-year old, and there they were, from Rawlings, pajama pants in youth sizes, with long legs and no elastic…the apocalypse is nigh..

    [quote comment=”319132″][quote comment=”319126″]As per the NCAA umpires.

    The uniform rules are VERY strict for umpires and the pullovers available are basically 1 type.

    My guess is that he rolled his sleevess up as many umps often do.

    The long sleeves often hinder use of the indicator and such.[/quote]

    what’s up with the Miller Lite add in the pic? they must be playing at a minor league park.[/quote]

    Probably so!

    The NCAA jackets are the same as MLB.

    link

    I would love to be allowed to wear them for New York Stae, however, the only pullovers we are allowed to wear are these:

    Baseball:
    link

    Softball:
    link

    Believe me…This is my rookie year of umpiring. The cost of buying gear and clothing for both has been astronomical. I will probably have to do a month’s worth of games just to pay for the initial capital.

    Softball:

    [quote comment=”319155″][quote comment=”319132″][quote comment=”319126″]As per the NCAA umpires.

    The uniform rules are VERY strict for umpires and the pullovers available are basically 1 type.

    My guess is that he rolled his sleevess up as many umps often do.

    The long sleeves often hinder use of the indicator and such.[/quote]

    what’s up with the Miller Lite add in the pic? they must be playing at a minor league park.[/quote]

    Probably so!

    The NCAA jackets are the same as MLB.

    link

    I would love to be allowed to wear them for New York Stae, however, the only pullovers we are allowed to wear are these:

    Baseball:
    link

    Softball:
    link

    Believe me…This is my rookie year of umpiring. The cost of buying gear and clothing for both has been astronomical. I will probably have to do a month’s worth of games just to pay for the initial capital.

    Softball:[/quote]
    I hope you already got your jacket or that you can fit into a small. It seems all other sizes are out of stock!

    [quote comment=”319157″][quote comment=”319155″][quote comment=”319132″][quote comment=”319126″]As per the NCAA umpires.

    The uniform rules are VERY strict for umpires and the pullovers available are basically 1 type.

    My guess is that he rolled his sleevess up as many umps often do.

    The long sleeves often hinder use of the indicator and such.[/quote]

    what’s up with the Miller Lite add in the pic? they must be playing at a minor league park.[/quote]

    Probably so!

    The NCAA jackets are the same as MLB.

    link

    I would love to be allowed to wear them for New York Stae, however, the only pullovers we are allowed to wear are these:

    Baseball:
    link

    Softball:
    link

    Believe me…This is my rookie year of umpiring. The cost of buying gear and clothing for both has been astronomical. I will probably have to do a month’s worth of games just to pay for the initial capital.

    Softball:[/quote]
    I hope you already got your jacket or that you can fit into a small. It seems all other sizes are out of stock![/quote]

    I’m all taken care of!

    [quote comment=”319121″]Does it appear that there are no jersey numbers on the “Chicago” script jerseys to anyone else?[/quote]
    Looks like it, but I think Orlando Woolridge’s 0 is behind his right arm and Michael Jordan’s 23 is blocked by Larry Nance’s head.

    The front numbers on those ’84-’85 jerseys were link and they were placed link.

    One of those links to the new Lions logo refers to the lion as “Bubbles”–anyone know where that came from? I’ve never heard that before.

    [quote comment=”319160″]One of those links to the new Lions logo refers to the lion as “Bubbles”–anyone know where that came from? I’ve never heard that before.[/quote]
    I believe that was coined by a Detroit radio personaliry, who thought that the lion in the logo looked as though he was a kitty swatting at bubbles.

    [quote comment=”319114″]Looking at the officials and Butkus…no one has a clue.[/quote]Butkus was madly (and I do mean MADLY) waving to the Lions bench (trying to get their training staff, etc. out on the field) just moments before that picture was taken.

    He was aware that something was seriously wrong.

    [quote comment=”319159″]Looks like it, but I think Orlando Woolridge’s 0 [/quote]

    Good number for Woolridge.

    He’s got that “I really don’t belong in this picture!” Cheshire Cat-look on his face

    On the Bears block-number jerseys and the lack of sleeve stripes on early mesh football jerseys – it took jersey manufacturers a couple of years to figure out that you could silk-screen stripes on the mesh jerseys. On the Durene jerseys, the stripes were woven into the fabric, but you could not do that with the polyester mesh. The Dolphins went to mesh jerseys in 1970 and the sleeves were without stripes until 1972. That seems to be the general time frame between mesh jerseys arriving on the NFL scene and stripes reappearing on the sleeves.

    [quote comment=”319158″][quote comment=”319157″][quote comment=”319155″][quote comment=”319132″][quote comment=”319126″]As per the NCAA umpires.

    The uniform rules are VERY strict for umpires and the pullovers available are basically 1 type.

    My guess is that he rolled his sleevess up as many umps often do.

    The long sleeves often hinder use of the indicator and such.[/quote]

    what’s up with the Miller Lite add in the pic? they must be playing at a minor league park.[/quote]

    Probably so!

    The NCAA jackets are the same as MLB.

    link

    I would love to be allowed to wear them for New York Stae, however, the only pullovers we are allowed to wear are these:

    Baseball:
    link

    Softball:
    link

    Believe me…This is my rookie year of umpiring. The cost of buying gear and clothing for both has been astronomical. I will probably have to do a month’s worth of games just to pay for the initial capital.

    Softball:[/quote]
    I hope you already got your jacket or that you can fit into a small. It seems all other sizes are out of stock![/quote]

    I’m all taken care of![/quote]

    I take that back…there was one item that I was unhappy about:

    link

    I had to go with the Reeboks because pickings were pretty slim.

    [quote comment=”319142″]Actually, the story goes that Butkus immediately recognized that something was very wrong and yelled over to the Lions’ sideline for help. Many people misinterpreted it as some kind of celebration/taunting.[/quote]Absolutely. Glad someone cleared that up even earlier than I did.

    If people had heard Butkus’ story about why he knew something was very, very wrong at that moment they wouldn’t think he was taunting.

    First thing I noticed with the WFL schedule link

    Who’s the scheduling idiot who schedules a game at New York on Oct. 30 and then at Hawaii on Nov. 3? Perfect – a beat-up exhausted and jet lagged team…

    Terry Proctor is exactly correct. The Chicago newspapers quoted another coach who was warned about his uniforms; he called the state association and they gave his school an official waiver until he could obtain new uniforms.

    A lot of people seem to want to blame some over-officious jerk at the IHSA: but that’s not the whole story by a long shot.

    [quote comment=”319152″][quote comment=”319111″]I have not yet seen a baseball manager or coach wearing pajama pants, but you have to figure that such a day will eventually come. After all, George Hendrick maintained his low-cuff look once he became a coach, instead of giving in to The Man and assuming a more traditional pair of pants.

    So the question is: Who will be the first pajamas-wearing coach or manager?[/quote]

    Don’t know if this has been discussed already, but I went into the local sporting goods store (TX) to get baseball pants for my 6-year old, and there they were, from Rawlings, pajama pants in youth sizes, with long legs and no elastic…the apocalypse is nigh..[/quote]

    Yup, was gonna mention seeing a TV spot over the weekend featuring such pants at, I believe, Dick’s Sporting Goods. Like it or not, baseball is now a game played in long pants.

    And MLB, with a rule—according to the Span story in the Ticker—stating that pants “must end at the heel”, doesn’t sound like it’s about to do anything to mandate the wearing of stirrups.

    Welcome to the Cricket look. For the foreseeable future, anyway.

    —Ricko

    Baltimore/Capital/Washington Bullets logo: did anyone get the urge to go out and buy a handgun after they clicked on that link?

    BTW, there isn’t enough room to fit “Washington” over the BU, in Bullets: but I’d say that Washington and BS go together just fine.

    Good number for Woolridge.

    He’s got that “I really don’t belong in this picture!” Cheshire Cat-look on his face

    I believe that’s a photo of the contestants in the Slam Dunk Contest in Jordan’s first or second NBA Season. Woolridge was definitely a worthy member of the dunking fraternity.

    [quote comment=”319161″]Looks like we’ll have the Miami Marlins here in a couple years…[/quote]
    Wasn’t one of the knocks against the Orange Bowl game being played in the Orange Bowl Stadium the idea that the stadium is in a neighborhood that’s now considered “high crime”?

    If so, that’s an interesting place to put your new ballpark.

    With all due respect to Mr. Proctor (and I sincerely mean that), I think he may be a little behind the times with his statement that “the majority of basketball uniforms are sold for use in high schools”. I would say the overwhelming majority of basketball uniforms today are sold to non-NFHS teams. Think of what we used to call “summer league” ball, except that they are year-round now. I’m talking about AAU, BCI, Primetime Sports, and probably dozens of others.

    The majority of these teams have uniforms as fancy as any high school varsity team, and they are not subject to the strict regulations of the NFHS, or the budget restrictions of the public school system. For the elite teams, recruiting can be intense (at all age groups), and the uniforms can play a big part. Most kids want to play for a team that has cool unis, and we all have a pretty good idea of what kids today think is cool in a uni.

    So manufacturers today have this entire market to sell to that not only doesn’t care about the NFHS rules, in some cases they specifically want to go beyond them.

    I think this puts the onus back on the HS coach to make sure the uniforms he buys fit within the NHFS guidelines. And if they don’t, at least bring your practice jerseys with you (or the JV team jerseys)!

    [quote comment=”319176″][quote comment=”319161″]Looks like we’ll have the Miami Marlins here in a couple years…[/quote]
    Wasn’t one of the knocks against the Orange Bowl game being played in the Orange Bowl Stadium the idea that the stadium is in a neighborhood that’s now considered “high crime”?

    If so, that’s an interesting place to put your new ballpark.[/quote]
    That’s not my recollection. The principal knock I remember against the stadium was its age. There was talk of a new Marlins ballpark on the site way back then, so the neighborhood coulnd’t have been the deciding factor.

    Lions, Lions, Lions…

    The new logo is pretty much the same except they decided to add in “white streaks” on its face and head….

    Sorry, but it looks like Bubbles is getting the “Money shot”. Probably sums up last season pretty well.

    [quote comment=”319175″]I believe that’s a photo of the contestants in the Slam Dunk Contest in Jordan’s first or second NBA Season. Woolridge was definitely a worthy member of the dunking fraternity.[/quote]I’m giving “O” credit for honesty.

    The 1985 Slam Dunk Contest results from NBA.com:

    1. Dominique Wilkins
    2. Michael Jordan
    3. Terence Stansbury
    4. Julius Erving
    5. Larry Nance
    6. Darrell Griffith
    7. Orlando Woolridge
    8. Clyde Drexler

    [quote comment=”319175″]Good number for Woolridge.

    He’s got that “I really don’t belong in this picture!” Cheshire Cat-look on his face

    I believe that’s a photo of the contestants in the Slam Dunk Contest in Jordan’s first or second NBA Season. Woolridge was definitely a worthy member of the dunking fraternity.[/quote]
    The dude could dunk, but in comparison to the legends in that photo… not so much.

    You can see him throw down a couple nice ones early on in link. Plus, as an added bonus, the Bulls are wearing the home unis with the radially-arched wordmark.

    I was hoping that video would have the player intros. I used to love the way he was introduced before a game “Nummmmmber Oooooorlando Woolridge!”

    [quote comment=”319179″]The new logo is pretty much the same except they decided to add in “white streaks” on its face and head…[/quote]That’s pretty much my reaction.

    It’s change for the sake of change: and therfore it’s not worth it.

    [quote comment=”319179″]
    Sorry, but it looks like Bubbles is getting the “Money shot”.[/quote]
    I guess we know what he was doing with his paws now. He sure as hell wasn’t swatting at bubbles.

    The dude could dunk, but in comparison to the legends in that photo… not so much.

    Woolridge was a power dunker. Artistic…not so much.

    Someone bid $31 on a T-shirt?

    Someone should have pointed those people to Distant Replays before they went under…

    [quote comment=”319177″]I think this puts the onus back on the HS coach to make sure the uniforms he buys fit within the NHFS guidelines.[/quote]And given the usual amount of paperwork, approvals, duplicates, signoffs, etc that a purchase in the Chicago Public School system entails, it would seem again that there’s more than enough blame to go around; perhaps not just the coach but the principal and the CPS athletic director should have to answer questions also.
    [quote comment=”319177″]And if they don’t, at least bring your practice jerseys with you (or the JV team jerseys)![/quote]Yes-this team got a “T” in the semifinals and did absolutely NOTHING to remedy the situation for the finals. Certainly they could have found a store that sells t-shirts in between those two games.

    [quote comment=”319177″]With all due respect to Mr. Proctor (and I sincerely mean that), I think he may be a little behind the times with his statement that “the majority of basketball uniforms are sold for use in high schools”. I would say the overwhelming majority of basketball uniforms today are sold to non-NFHS teams. Think of what we used to call “summer league” ball, except that they are year-round now. I’m talking about AAU, BCI, Primetime Sports, and probably dozens of others.

    The majority of these teams have uniforms as fancy as any high school varsity team, and they are not subject to the strict regulations of the NFHS, or the budget restrictions of the public school system. For the elite teams, recruiting can be intense (at all age groups), and the uniforms can play a big part. Most kids want to play for a team that has cool unis, and we all have a pretty good idea of what kids today think is cool in a uni.

    So manufacturers today have this entire market to sell to that not only doesn’t care about the NFHS rules, in some cases they specifically want to go beyond them.

    I think this puts the onus back on the HS coach to make sure the uniforms he buys fit within the NHFS guidelines. And if they don’t, at least bring your practice jerseys with you (or the JV team jerseys)![/quote]
    I hear what you’re saying. In fact, I wondered the same thing about the Illinois school as far as why they couldn’t have been prepared with their JV or even practice unis.

    That being said, your assessment of AAU may be a tad skewed. I think everything you say is correct, but when talking about the elite of programs.

    However, and I’ve covered some AAU events in the Pittsburgh area, the great majority of the teams I’ve seen on the court are very basic in their gear. I’m not saying they look poor, but the teams aren’t shelling out a ton of money. I mostly saw lightweight dazzle type practice unis on teams. Some squads only had t-shirts.

    I think Terry’s perspective and point is well taken. I wouldn’t put ALL the blame on the uni supplier but it is in their best interest to be aware of the rules of the local governing bodies that have rule over the teams they supply.

    That being said, it’s also the responsibility of the school’s administration, AD, coaches, prinicpal, superintendent, whoever, to know what is and isn’t within compliance of the rules. Especially when the rules are:

    A. clear cut and
    B. readily available for everyone involed to get a copy of.

    I have nothing ill to say of the officials who enforced the rule. Power trip? No way. What good is a rule if you don’t enforce it? (What you get is an NHL playoff game in overtime!!!!)

    [quote comment=”319176″][quote comment=”319161″]Looks like we’ll have the Miami Marlins here in a couple years…[/quote]
    Wasn’t one of the knocks against the Orange Bowl game being played in the Orange Bowl Stadium the idea that the stadium is in a neighborhood that’s now considered “high crime”?

    If so, that’s an interesting place to put your new ballpark.[/quote]

    Is it any worse than having your stadium next to a sea of chop-shops?

    [quote comment=”319126″]As per the NCAA umpires.

    The uniform rules are VERY strict for umpires and the pullovers available are basically 1 type.

    My guess is that he rolled his sleevess up as many umps often do.

    The long sleeves often hinder use of the indicator and such.[/quote]

    The NCAA does not have rules regarding umpire uniforms until post season play. Conferences & Conference Supervisors set uniform standards.

    The jacket in the photo does have sleeves that zip off. They are available through link or link.

    [quote comment=”319181″]The dude could dunk, but in comparison to the legends in that photo… not so much.[/quote]That pretty much sums up my reaction to that picture. As noted, I’m giving Orlando credit for realizing that he better enjoy that one picture because that’s the only one he’s going to get.

    Some of those guys should be sitting together, and others should be off to the side ready to hand them towels. “O” belongs in that second group IMHO.

    Dr. J, MJ, ‘Nique….. and Orlando Woolridge? One of these things does not belong with the others.

    [quote comment=”319190″]Is it any worse than having your stadium next to a sea of chop-shops?[/quote]

    Don’t know the answer to that question-and I’ve admitted that I’m not a Miami expert. I just recall hearing all of the rationalizations for moving the actual Orange Bowl game to Joe Robbie, and I also recall a little incident with Miami and a hockey arena during the playoffs.

    I know that this is late for today, but during the WBC Final last night, but Yong-Kyu Lee tried to steal second in the 5th and ran right into the shortstop’s knee with his face and batting helmet.

    I do have a question for everyone: It seemed as though Korea was wearing a different style of batting helmet. Any details on that? I am stunned that the helmet broke in pieces like that on someone’s ankle.

    Kinda makes you wonder how much safety you’d have from a line drive if it just cracks into pieces like that on simple human driven force.

    [quote comment=”319189″]
    I have nothing ill to say of the officials who enforced the rule. Power trip? No way. What good is a rule if you don’t enforce it? (What you get is an NHL playoff game in overtime!!!!)[/quote]

    The best way to finish a playoff game is with one team “dying” in action. NHL Playoff overtime games are akin to the Roman Colosseum. No games are more intense than that, and no one lives or dies in sports more than “sudden death” hockey players.

    And as of late, there has been a gigantic increase in OT penalties called. I would assume that Head Ref Steven Walkom will continue this push into the playoffs.

    But… great comment, Kek. OT hockey is gladiatorial war. ;o)

    [quote comment=”319193″][quote comment=”319190″]Is it any worse than having your stadium next to a sea of chop-shops?[/quote]

    Don’t know the answer to that question-and I’ve admitted that I’m not a Miami expert. I just recall hearing all of the rationalizations for moving the actual Orange Bowl game to Joe Robbie, and I also recall a little incident with Miami and a hockey arena during the playoffs.[/quote]

    the chop-shops refer to Citi Field

    [quote comment=”319195″][quote comment=”319189″]
    I have nothing ill to say of the officials who enforced the rule. Power trip? No way. What good is a rule if you don’t enforce it? (What you get is an NHL playoff game in overtime!!!!)[/quote]

    The best way to finish a playoff game is with one team “dying” in action. NHL Playoff overtime games are akin to the Roman Colosseum. No games are more intense than that, and no one lives or dies in sports more than “sudden death” hockey players.

    And as of late, there has been a gigantic increase in OT penalties called. I would assume that Head Ref Steven Walkom will continue this push into the playoffs.

    But… great comment, Kek. OT hockey is gladiatorial war. ;o)[/quote]
    I’m glad you caught that Teebz, it was especially placed in the post for you!!!

    And don’t get me wrong… I LOVE overtime playoff hockey. It’s one of the most exciting things in all of sports. It’s just that the rep has been that the refs swallow the whistles.

    But hey, both teams know that going in, so that can’t complain THAT much right?

    [quote comment=”319197″][quote comment=”319193″][quote comment=”319190″]Is it any worse than having your stadium next to a sea of chop-shops?[/quote]

    Don’t know the answer to that question-and I’ve admitted that I’m not a Miami expert. I just recall hearing all of the rationalizations for moving the actual Orange Bowl game to Joe Robbie, and I also recall a little incident with Miami and a hockey arena during the playoffs.[/quote]

    the chop-shops refer to Citi Field[/quote]

    Which houses the Citi Corporate Bonus Suites.

    Here’s another article about the Denard Span facing a fine for wearing his link.

    Given the number of players wearing them this way, why does he want us to believe it was an accident?

    [quote]Is it any worse than having your stadium next to a sea of chop-shops?[/quote]

    as shitty as that area appears (and believe me, it IS a shitty area), i used to park there with my buddies all the time at games for shea…i even have a couple of pics taken down that alley of me sitting on the hood of my car with a foul ball i got from one of the summer games i went to (and when i get my scanner, i’ll post said pic, assuming i can find it–was from like 1989)…and the area’s no worse now than it was 20 years ago…sure the view from the wilpon’s suite is less than pristine, but the neighborhood (if you can call it that — it’s not like you travel thru there to get to the game and the subway and LIRR lines are far removed from that strip) isn’t horrific…certainly no worse than miama

    i’d daresay the neighborhood in which the crosstown team have constructed their gold-encrusted castle is far worse than the chop shops at shea/citi, but neither one is all that ‘unsafe’…as long as you’re not stupid

    congrats on the success of your auction so far – i’m surprised you have that many bids to be honest

    Don’t know if you guys are interested, but my club lacrosse team here at American University just got our unis. We only have blues because we’re broke and don’t have money for whites. But I thought I would just show you guys.

    link

    link

    I personally think they’re awesome, but what do you think?

    Longtime Detroit Tiger broadcaster and hall of fame third basemman George Kell passed away. We should have a patch coming. He is rightfully beloved in Michigan.

    [quote comment=”319203″]Don’t know if you guys are interested, but my club lacrosse team here at American University just got our unis. We only have blues because we’re broke and don’t have money for whites. But I thought I would just show you guys.

    link

    link

    I personally think they’re awesome, but what do you think?[/quote]
    Not bad. I love the DC flag on the back of the shorts.

    [quote comment=”319197″]the chop-shops refer to Citi Field[/quote]I got that. Its just that the Mets are merely moving a few yards away from Shea. Anyone who went to a Mets game last year certainly can’t complain about them suddenly moving to lousy, more inconvenient area this year. You could almost argue that all the Mets (and White Sox, Bulls, Yanks, Cardinals, Reds, Phillies, Braves, Broncos and more) accomplished was a total gut rehab of their old stadium.

    OTOH, the Marlins will be moving a number of miles from Joe Robbie. As noted, I don’t know all the complaints from the old Orange Bowl Stadium: it might have been sheer skybox economics that made the Dolphins move, it may have been parking or crime or any number of other factors. I just hope the city of Miami isn’t trying the old “this publicly-financed stadium will lift up a depressed area” gambit. That never seems to work.

    [quote comment=”319202″]congrats on the success of your auction so far – i’m surprised you have that many bids to be honest[/quote]

    …at least it’s something you can wear/use/collect…unlike this item (and I am not looking for other strange items…just to point out that I am not surprised that’s what he’s getting for it)…

    link

    [quote comment=”319201″]…but neither one is all that ‘unsafe’…as long as you’re not stupid[/quote]That’s always been my reaction to people who complain about safety. Granted, I’ve grown up in Chicago so I’m a little more aware of our particular does and don’ts: but using some common sense is all you really need to get in and get out of the stadiums & arenas here. Just ask if you’re from out of town; people will be happy to help.

    Come 2012, will we see uni-related penalties on the gridiron?

    link

    The thing that stands out to me is that the visiting team must wear white. At Johnstown, they haven’t had a white jersey in four or five years. They’ve worn black at home and columbia blue on the road. They’ve never had any issues with clashing colors. In the conference they play in most teams’ home unis are black or red. They played a team that uses a more royal shade of blue, but the unique shade of light blue really doesn’t cause a problem.

    I kind of got used to them going without white, it’ll be odd to see it again.

    [quote comment=”319210″]LOGO CREEP![/quote]I didn’t know that Members Only was still in business, much less with a new logo.

    :-)

    [quote comment=”319208″][quote comment=”319201″]…but neither one is all that ‘unsafe’…as long as you’re not stupid[/quote]That’s always been my reaction to people who complain about safety. Granted, I’ve grown up in Chicago so I’m a little more aware of our particular does and don’ts: but using some common sense is all you really need to get in and get out of the stadiums & arenas here. Just ask if you’re from out of town; people will be happy to help.[/quote]
    I’m glad to hear this refreshing outlook. I could have used your help back when I was defending some Pittsburgh neighborhoods prior to Paul’s visit to the Steel City!

    Attention all hockey fans, particularly RPI grads or NCAA hockey fans:

    Does anyone know why the players in the 1984 Frozen Four were link? The goalie is wearing the birdcage, but I’ve never seen Adam Oates, the RPI player pictured, with this type of cage on ever.

    The hybrid cage was introduced by Dave Dryden for goaltenders by this time, but there is absolutely nothing about players wearing the hybrid-style cage.

    Anyone have any idea? And yes… that’s the biggest picture I could find.

    [quote comment=”319204″]Longtime Detroit Tiger broadcaster and hall of fame third basemman George Kell passed away. We should have a patch coming. He is rightfully beloved in Michigan.[/quote]

    Nooooooo! Say it ain’t so! I ran a Fantasy baseball league back in the 90’s called the George Kell Baseball League…the man was a gem. I can still hear him referring to Carlton Fisk as “sitting there like a hoot owl”. A sad day indeed.

    [quote comment=”319201″]
    i’d daresay the neighborhood in which the crosstown team have constructed their gold-encrusted castle is far worse than the chop shops at shea/citi, but neither one is all that ‘unsafe’…as long as you’re not stupid[/quote]

    Difference is that Yankee Stadium is in a real neighborhood, where people live. There’s only one legal resident in the Iron Triangle.

    Was I the last person to realize that the new Cowboys stadium will actually be in Arlington, some thirty miles from dallas? I know thats not all that far but I figured with the way those texans get all fired up over their football we would have heard more. As a diehard steelers fan that would be like the Steelers playing in morgantown WV its about the same distance and their is no way in hell we would stand for that.

    If you enjoyed the New York Giants appraisal on Antiques Roadshow, they have done other baseball related items, my favorite of which is the Willie Mays Minneapolis Millers photo matched jersey.

    link

    [quote comment=”319218″]Was I the last person to realize that the new Cowboys stadium will actually be in Arlington, some thirty miles from dallas? I know thats not all that far but I figured with the way those texans get all fired up over their football we would have heard more. As a diehard steelers fan that would be like the Steelers playing in morgantown WV its about the same distance and their is no way in hell we would stand for that.[/quote]
    Don’t forget that the Cowboys have played in Irving for just about 40 years, so its not as if they’re suddenly abandoning Dallas proper.

    Arlington (home of the Rangers) is almost exactly halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth as I understand it.

    And a famous quote about Texans and their cars: “We’ll drive four hours to go get lunch.”

    [quote comment=”319217″][quote comment=”319201″]
    i’d daresay the neighborhood in which the crosstown team have constructed their gold-encrusted castle is far worse than the chop shops at shea/citi, but neither one is all that ‘unsafe’…as long as you’re not stupid[/quote]

    Difference is that Yankee Stadium is in a real neighborhood, where people live. There’s only one legal resident in the Iron Triangle.[/quote]

    oh, totally agree, and there’s nothing wrong with the area where the yankees play…have i honestly felt the number 4 doors stay open a little too long for my liking at say, 125th? yeah, but anyone who makes shea TARPfield/yankee stadium out to be in warzones has obviously either never been to either locale or hasn’t been ‘intelligent’ about visiting the parks

    [quote comment=”319219″]If you enjoyed the New York Giants appraisal on Antiques Roadshow, they have done other baseball related items, my favorite of which is the Willie Mays Minneapolis Millers photo matched jersey.

    link
    Not a baseball jersey, but my favorite was link. (I’m sure this comes as a huge shock to some of you.)
    [quote]
    It’s been folded up inside a box in my closet at my parents’ house. When I opened it up and my wife saw it, she was like, “Is that your high school football jersey?” And I, of course, told her no, and she was like: “we just need to turn that into a rag and use it to wipe down some of the furniture.” But I persisted and told her, “No, no, no, it’s a famous football player’s jersey.” And, uh, she just was kind of like, “Yeah, whatever.” (laughs) And then I put it back in the box and it’s been probably sitting in that box now, well, about 16 years.[/quote]

    link was great, too.

    [quote comment=”319191″][quote comment=”319126″]As per the NCAA umpires.

    The uniform rules are VERY strict for umpires and the pullovers available are basically 1 type.

    My guess is that he rolled his sleevess up as many umps often do.

    The long sleeves often hinder use of the indicator and such.[/quote]

    The NCAA does not have rules regarding umpire uniforms until post season play. Conferences & Conference Supervisors set uniform standards.

    The jacket in the photo does have sleeves that zip off. They are available through link or link

    I stand corrected. Those are very cool!

    And speaking of the Rockets, I had actually forgotten that they once played in San Diego.

    It’s interesting — you occasionally hear about teams like the Lakers and Jazz that move to a new city, and their team name doesn’t jive with the new city. I can’t imagine there are too many instances like the Rockets, whose team name made more sense after the move.

    [quote comment=”319226″]And speaking of the Rockets, I had actually forgotten that they once played in San Diego.

    It’s interesting — you occasionally hear about teams like the Lakers and Jazz that move to a new city, and their team name doesn’t jive with the new city. I can’t imagine there are too many instances like the Rockets, whose team name made more sense after the move.[/quote]

    Or the Detroit Pistons.

    Your comment about the Pittsburg soccer team made me think, is there any other city where all the pro sports franchises share the same color scheme? Example Steelers, Pirates, and Penguins all using black and gold. Being a Cleveland native this wouldn’t work to well because I don’t think anyone would want to see the Cavs in brown and orange. Now also being a Bowling Green alum I have seen it in use.

    [quote comment=”319213″][quote comment=”319208″][quote comment=”319201″]…but neither one is all that ‘unsafe’…as long as you’re not stupid[/quote]That’s always been my reaction to people who complain about safety. Granted, I’ve grown up in Chicago so I’m a little more aware of our particular does and don’ts: but using some common sense is all you really need to get in and get out of the stadiums & arenas here. Just ask if you’re from out of town; people will be happy to help.[/quote]
    I’m glad to hear this refreshing outlook. I could have used your help back when I was defending some Pittsburgh neighborhoods prior to Paul’s visit to the Steel City![/quote]

    war-torn oakland?!!? hahahahaha

    [quote comment=”319227″]Or the Detroit Pistons.[/quote]Could be a situation where history repeats itself: as the auto parts industry left the Fort attendance suffered resulting in a move to Detroit… :-O

    [quote comment=”319225″]Paul — I’m a Florence Meat Market guy myself.[/quote]

    I love that place too. One time I was interviewing Benny Pizzuco, who owns/runs the place, and he said, “I don’t know if you wanna print this, but the way to tell a good lamb is to look for a nice ass.” Naturally, I printed it. After the article ran, told me his customers were coming in and asking to look at HIS ass.

    [quote comment=\”319228\”]Your comment about the Pittsburg soccer team made me think, is there any other city where all the pro sports franchises share the same color scheme? Example Steelers, Pirates, and Penguins all using black and gold.[/quote]

    Now that the Sonics have left town, Seattle can make that claim. The Mariners, Seahawks and Sounders all have a blue/green scheme, although the colors aren\’t an exact match from team to team.

    [quote comment=”319214″]Attention all hockey fans, particularly RPI grads or NCAA hockey fans:

    Does anyone know why the players in the 1984 Frozen Four were link? The goalie is wearing the birdcage, but I’ve never seen Adam Oates, the RPI player pictured, with this type of cage on ever.

    The hybrid cage was introduced by Dave Dryden for goaltenders by this time, but there is absolutely nothing about players wearing the hybrid-style cage.

    Anyone have any idea? And yes… that’s the biggest picture I could find.[/quote]

    From when I played youth hockey, I remember that cage style as an attachment to a regular helmet. It is merely a cage facemask attached to a helmet. It isn’t the hybrid style mask/cage you see goalies wearing today. It was definitely for forwards and defensemen.

    [quote comment=”319223″][quote comment=”319219″]If you enjoyed the New York Giants appraisal on Antiques Roadshow, they have done other baseball related items, my favorite of which is the Willie Mays Minneapolis Millers photo matched jersey.

    link
    Not a baseball jersey, but my favorite was link. (I’m sure this comes as a huge shock to some of you.)
    [quote]
    It’s been folded up inside a box in my closet at my parents’ house. When I opened it up and my wife saw it, she was like, “Is that your high school football jersey?” And I, of course, told her no, and she was like: “we just need to turn that into a rag and use it to wipe down some of the furniture.” But I persisted and told her, “No, no, no, it’s a famous football player’s jersey.” And, uh, she just was kind of like, “Yeah, whatever.” (laughs) And then I put it back in the box and it’s been probably sitting in that box now, well, about 16 years.[/quote]

    link was great, too.[/quote]

    If that Packers football went for that much money, how much money should this one go for?

    link

    Scroll down about half way…have these ever been posted before? I think they would have been much better than BUBBLES
    link

    [quote comment=”319234″][quote comment=”319214″]Attention all hockey fans, particularly RPI grads or NCAA hockey fans:

    Does anyone know why the players in the 1984 Frozen Four were link? The goalie is wearing the birdcage, but I’ve never seen Adam Oates, the RPI player pictured, with this type of cage on ever.

    The hybrid cage was introduced by Dave Dryden for goaltenders by this time, but there is absolutely nothing about players wearing the hybrid-style cage.

    Anyone have any idea? And yes… that’s the biggest picture I could find.[/quote]

    From when I played youth hockey, I remember that cage style as an attachment to a regular helmet. It is merely a cage facemask attached to a helmet. It isn’t the hybrid style mask/cage you see goalies wearing today. It was definitely for forwards and defensemen.[/quote]

    wish i had one of those!!!

    [quote comment=”319234″][quote comment=”319214″]Attention all hockey fans, particularly RPI grads or NCAA hockey fans:

    Does anyone know why the players in the 1984 Frozen Four were link? The goalie is wearing the birdcage, but I’ve never seen Adam Oates, the RPI player pictured, with this type of cage on ever.

    The hybrid cage was introduced by Dave Dryden for goaltenders by this time, but there is absolutely nothing about players wearing the hybrid-style cage.

    Anyone have any idea? And yes… that’s the biggest picture I could find.[/quote]

    From when I played youth hockey, I remember that cage style as an attachment to a regular helmet. It is merely a cage facemask attached to a helmet. It isn’t the hybrid style mask/cage you see goalies wearing today. It was definitely for forwards and defensemen.[/quote]

    Why would Oates and the opposing team’s defencemen be wearing them? Oates did not have any sort of facial injury, and both teams wouldn’t be wearing them unless there was some sort of product placement/marketing going on.

    Regarding a couple of the WFL items:

    The generic “quarterback” in the Southern California Sun schedule is an image of Fran Tarkenton, in his first stint with the Minnesota Vikings.

    link

    In the Portland Storm team picture, the jersey numbers of the players in the second row are in reverse order, different from the other rows. Never saw that before! (I thought there was going to be a “wrap-around” effect with all of the rows, but the second row was the only one to be “out of order.”)

    link

    NFL to mark 50th Anniversary of the AFL with “Legacy Uniforms”:

    Chargers will presumably be wearing their all-whites at Oakland during the Week 1 MNF doubleheader.

    link

    the lions logo isn’t that bad at all really. i mean, it’s a small change. personally, the only change they should have done was get rid of black… but all in all, not bad. you all KNOW it could be much, MUCH worse!

    FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link

    [quote comment=”319238″][quote comment=”319234″][quote comment=”319214″]Attention all hockey fans, particularly RPI grads or NCAA hockey fans:

    Does anyone know why the players in the 1984 Frozen Four were link? The goalie is wearing the birdcage, but I’ve never seen Adam Oates, the RPI player pictured, with this type of cage on ever.

    The hybrid cage was introduced by Dave Dryden for goaltenders by this time, but there is absolutely nothing about players wearing the hybrid-style cage.

    Anyone have any idea? And yes… that’s the biggest picture I could find.[/quote]

    From when I played youth hockey, I remember that cage style as an attachment to a regular helmet. It is merely a cage facemask attached to a helmet. It isn’t the hybrid style mask/cage you see goalies wearing today. It was definitely for forwards and defensemen.[/quote]

    Why would Oates and the opposing team’s defencemen be wearing them? Oates did not have any sort of facial injury, and both teams wouldn’t be wearing them unless there was some sort of product placement/marketing going on.[/quote]

    Just to add to this, Oates was 22 years-old when he won the ’84 Frozen Four. I’m sure he had options as an adult college hockey player to select something other than a mask that seems to have lived and died a short life. LOL

    [quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link

    So you mean it will be like everything else Fox produces? LOL

    [quote comment=”319244″][quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link

    So you mean it will be like everything else Fox produces? LOL[/quote]

    The funniest part is the first comment on the Mich State uni page. Paul, can you knock some sense into that guy?

    [quote comment=”319232″]Check out this amazing Brewers jersey on eBay!

    link

    Was this jersey game-worn in Vietnam?

    [quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.[/quote]

    (fixed)

    [quote comment=”319244″][quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link

    So you mean it will be like everything else Fox produces? LOL[/quote]

    One wonders if there is a color that would be acceptable to the writer of that list. As for his dig at Maryland and Marquette, I guess the Lakers’ gold home uniforms would pass the test either, but I think it’s one of the best in the game (along with the Celtics’ home unis).

    One wonders if there is a color that would be acceptable to the writer of that list. As for his dig at Maryland and Marquette, I guess the Lakers’ gold home uniforms would pass the test either, but I think it’s one of the best in the game (along with the Celtics’ home unis).[/quote]

    Make that: would NOT pass the test either.

    [quote comment=”319127″][quote comment=”319122″]Likely due to the fact that my NBA interest died when Bill Russell retired, but I don’t think I have ever seen the Bulls with scripted “Chicago” on their unis. Was that standard? Just something that they changed from during MJ’s early years (he looks very young in that picture).[/quote]

    That was the Bulls road set for the late’70s and early’80s; “Chicago” script with the number offset, like a baseball TV number. The home set had the vertically arched block “Bulls” we are all familiar with, but the number was also offset, which I always thought looked weird on the home set.[/quote]

    Thanks. I usually like jerseys with script and I like that one, too. Sure looks weird to me though.

    [quote comment=”319218″]Was I the last person to realize that the new Cowboys stadium will actually be in Arlington, some thirty miles from dallas? I know thats not all that far but I figured with the way those texans get all fired up over their football we would have heard more. As a diehard steelers fan that would be like the Steelers playing in morgantown WV its about the same distance and their is no way in hell we would stand for that.[/quote]

    Dallas/Fort Worth is one large metropolitan area (the Metroplex) and Arlington sits pretty close to the middle.

    [quote comment=”319238″][quote comment=”319234″][quote comment=”319214″]Attention all hockey fans, particularly RPI grads or NCAA hockey fans:

    Does anyone know why the players in the 1984 Frozen Four were link? The goalie is wearing the birdcage, but I’ve never seen Adam Oates, the RPI player pictured, with this type of cage on ever.

    The hybrid cage was introduced by Dave Dryden for goaltenders by this time, but there is absolutely nothing about players wearing the hybrid-style cage.

    Anyone have any idea? And yes… that’s the biggest picture I could find.[/quote]

    From when I played youth hockey, I remember that cage style as an attachment to a regular helmet. It is merely a cage facemask attached to a helmet. It isn’t the hybrid style mask/cage you see goalies wearing today. It was definitely for forwards and defensemen.[/quote]

    Why would Oates and the opposing team’s defencemen be wearing them? Oates did not have any sort of facial injury, and both teams wouldn’t be wearing them unless there was some sort of product placement/marketing going on.[/quote]
    It’s just a cat eye mask. Common enough style of cage back then, and the NCAA requires cages now, they very well might have back then too, don’t know how far back that policy goes.

    I know a guy who still plays with one, actually. They’re not certified anymore though, stick butt ends can get through the cat eyes. And without HECC certification, no helmet or cage gets sold these days.

    I’m too lazy to read through and see if anyone’s already mentioned this, but in the mid-70’s the Pistons had that race car wordmark emblazoned on their warmup jackets. I saw them myself, at the Buffalo War Memorial Auditorium. We were there with a church group, which meant most of us were delinquents. We had primo seats, right next to the players’ tunnel. A kid named Fred Stoner spit on George Trapp as the Pistons headed to their dressing room. He caught him right in the middle of the race car…

    [quote comment=”319248″][quote comment=”319244″][quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link

    So you mean it will be like everything else Fox produces? LOL[/quote]

    One wonders if there is a color that would be acceptable to the writer of that list. As for his dig at Maryland and Marquette, I guess the Lakers’ gold home uniforms would pass the test either, but I think it’s one of the best in the game (along with the Celtics’ home unis).[/quote]
    That dipshit knocked DePaul for royal blue, red and white. There are flaws with DePaul’s uni, but the color scheme/striping pattern are certainly not among them.

    Her comment is “it reminds you of a smurf dressed up as a candy striper.” What? Has she ever fucking seen a smurf?

    [quote comment=”319252″][quote comment=”319218″]Was I the last person to realize that the new Cowboys stadium will actually be in Arlington, some thirty miles from dallas? I know thats not all that far but I figured with the way those texans get all fired up over their football we would have heard more. As a diehard steelers fan that would be like the Steelers playing in morgantown WV its about the same distance and their is no way in hell we would stand for that.[/quote]

    Dallas/Fort Worth is one large metropolitan area (the Metroplex) and Arlington sits pretty close to the middle.[/quote]

    Arlington is fewer than fifteen miles from downtown Dallas. Few if any people are bent out of shape about the stadium being in Arlington, since the Rangers already play there and the Cowboys have been in another suburb (Irving) for decades.

    Wow! I wasn’t expecting to encounter my ol’ pal Hal Chase on here (photo of button-on sleeves); I believe that’s the uni the Yankees/Highlanders wore in 1911. Prince Hal, of course, went on to wear a number of uniforms in his peripatetic ML career: White Sox, Buffalo (Federal League), Cincinnati, and finally the Giants. I wrote a biography of him several years ago (Hal Chase: The Defiant Life and Turbulent Times of Baseball’s Biggest Crook), which currently ranks 1,169,045th (I just checked) in sales among all books on Amazon.com.

    [quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link
    wow, that list is really off base … i thought my bearkittens would be on there, as they deserve to be

    [quote comment=”319115″]About the Boomer picture from the ticker ( link), I think that was a tribute to Joe Walter (offensive tackle that wore 63). He was waived the Friday before that game (I think it was Pittsburgh) so that was Boomer’s tribute/protest.[/quote]

    Yup. From Bengals enquirer:

    Boomer Esiason wears 63 on the back of his helmet to honor 13-year veteran tackle Joe Walter, who was waived Friday. (Ernest Coleman photo)

    SB

    [quote comment=\”319149\”]I could identify all the dunk contestants in the \”eye candy\” pic, except who\’s the Indiana Pacer? (And I\’m not sure I\’ve seen that type of script before on a Pacers uni)[/quote]

    Terence Stansbury (who spent most of his NBA life as \”the guy who is in the Slam Dunk Competition\”)

    Oh, and has anyone found a photo from last week\’s Virginia Tech baseball \”Disco Night?\” There\’s nothing on the Hokies\’ website nor the student paper.

    [quote comment=”319214″]Attention all hockey fans, particularly RPI grads or NCAA hockey fans:

    Does anyone know why the players in the 1984 Frozen Four were link? The goalie is wearing the birdcage, but I’ve never seen Adam Oates, the RPI player pictured, with this type of cage on ever.

    The hybrid cage was introduced by Dave Dryden for goaltenders by this time, but there is absolutely nothing about players wearing the hybrid-style cage.

    Anyone have any idea? And yes… that’s the biggest picture I could find.[/quote]

    A lot of teams were working on visibility improvements over the square cage masks. In the fall of 1984, Harvard started wearing the Itech shields. They had problems with fogging the first few games, but Itech added anti-fog coating later on.

    [quote comment=”319240″]NFL to mark 50th Anniversary of the AFL with “Legacy Uniforms”:

    Chargers will presumably be wearing their all-whites at Oakland during the Week 1 MNF doubleheader.

    link

    Reactions:

    1) Will Denver find a supplier of vertically-striped socks?

    2) Bills not going to silver helmet with black numerals. Lame.

    3) Patriots not going to the tricorner hat logo. Double lame.

    4) Raiders not going all the way back to 1960 and adding the gold (from the West Point jerseys).

    [quote comment=”319240″]NFL to mark 50th Anniversary of the AFL with “Legacy Uniforms”:

    Chargers will presumably be wearing their all-whites at Oakland during the Week 1 MNF doubleheader.

    link
    This is the first I’ve seen that the Broncos will be wearing brown & yellow for a game or two in 2009. Now we need to find out if the vertically-striped socks will be in the mix. If so, some past players will be spinning in their graves.

    [quote comment=”319253″]
    It’s just a cat eye mask. Common enough style of cage back then, and the NCAA requires cages now, they very well might have back then too, don’t know how far back that policy goes.

    I know a guy who still plays with one, actually. They’re not certified anymore though, stick butt ends can get through the cat eyes. And without HECC certification, no helmet or cage gets sold these days.[/quote]

    Good call. I forgot about the cage rules in the NCAA.

    However, I’m still interested in the story behind these cages.

    [quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link

    Wow…Michigan State at #1? Seriously?

    I wouldn’t say that they have the best uniforms in the country but I think they are solid.

    [quote comment=”319176″]
    Wasn’t one of the knocks against the Orange Bowl game being played in the Orange Bowl Stadium the idea that the stadium is in a neighborhood that’s now considered “high crime”?

    If so, that’s an interesting place to put your new ballpark.[/quote]

    This implies that Little Havana is a “high crime” area of Miami, which it certainly is not. It’s really quite lovely. Cubans are not an underclass in Miami. The movie Scarface was about a particular 1980 group of criminal exiles from Cuba, nothing to do with the established Cuban community.

    The accuracy of this is unknowable, but someone on the Broncos posting board claims to have confirmation from Broncos PR boss Jim Saccomano that the team will indeed be wearing vertically striped socks. Let’s hope it’s true!

    link

    [quote comment=”319265″][quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link

    Wow…Michigan State at #1? Seriously?

    I wouldn’t say that they have the best uniforms in the country but I think they are solid.[/quote]

    you do realize that list was for worst jerseys, and not best, yes?

    [quote comment=”319268″][quote comment=”319265″][quote comment=”319242″]FoxSports.com has has a top nine (really nine?) list of worst college basketball uniforms up. Needless to say the list is a joke and readers of this blog are sure to simply just ignore the writer’s list.

    link

    Wow…Michigan State at #1? Seriously?

    I wouldn’t say that they have the best uniforms in the country but I think they are solid.[/quote]

    you do realize that list was for worst jerseys, and not best, yes?[/quote]

    I meant that I don’t think they are amazingly awesome, but I don’t think they belong on any “worst” uniforms list

    [quote]I meant that I don’t think they are amazingly awesome, but I don’t think they belong on any “worst” uniforms list[/quote]

    oh…agreed

    7 of those 9 don’t belong on a “worst” list…in fact they should be on a best list, which is where you thought you might be going (and you’d be right)…just checkin’ ;)

    Just to clarify my #163 comment, I’m not saying that all the 1980 Mariel Boatlift refugees were criminals – just a small group of that group, including, I guess, Tony Montana, although I haven’t seen Scarface in a while.

    [quote comment=”319267″]The accuracy of this is unknowable, but someone on the Broncos posting board claims to have confirmation from Broncos PR boss Jim Saccomano that the team will indeed be wearing vertically striped socks. Let’s hope it’s true!

    link

    Any truth to the rumor that Jim’s cousin Bob Saccomano from New York and his partner Cosmo Kramer will be delivering the uniforms via stolen postal vehicle?

    Didn’t the Bulls wear the script “Chicago” red jersey as a second road alt in recent years? Seems I’ve seen it show up occasionally, perhaps as a throwback set that was reused later in the season, over the last ten years or so. The front number was better positioned on these.

    Don’t know if anyone has seen this, but a lady on FoxSports put a worst college jerseys list together. Some are obvious, but Michigan State at #1? Seriously? There are far worse out there.

    link

    The umpires when they wear their blue and black shirts will wear black numbers with black and white trim this season in MLB. Previously, it had been reversed.

    I think that even more impressive then the $36 for Paul’s t-shirt…
    link

    …is that is has almost 2,000 views!

    Bears and Dolphins weren’t the only teams to go without stripes on the new mesh jerseys. The 49ers wore scarlet unis with the same lettering/numbering style as their durene jerseys, only without the three white stripes.

    You can see them in the 1973 Miami Dolphins highlight film (Miami hosted the Niners in the ’73 opener) and in the NFL Films “Lost Treasures” episode “Sundays With Soul,” during an interview with Frank Nunley. Probably the same situation as the Bears/Dolphins – mesh for warm weather, durene for cooler climes (more of the latter at Candlestick, of course).

    Maybe it’s been mentioned, but has anyone notice that in Paul’s Meat Bracket the 8th and 9th seeded ‘game’ in the Beef Regional is missing? Obviously (9) BBQ beef ribs is the winner, but I’m curious as to who it beat.

    If someone else mentioned this already, feel free to ignore me.

    [quote comment=”319142″][quote comment=”319114″][quote comment=”319109″]I’ve also wondered about the Bears block numbers, but the reference photo gives me the creeps. The guy on the field is Chuck Hughes of the Lions, and he’s dead.[/quote]

    An absolutely chilling photo when you know the situation around it. Looking at the officials and Butkus…no one has a clue.[/quote]
    Actually, the story goes that Butkus immediately recognized that something was very wrong and yelled over to the Lions’ sideline for help. Many people misinterpreted it as some kind of celebration/taunting.[/quote]

    Yeah, the photo could easily be misinterpreted especially because Butkus is in it. Hughes just collapsed while running a route if my memory serves me correctly.

    [quote comment=”319281″]Maybe it’s been mentioned, but has anyone notice that in Paul’s Meat Bracket the 8th and 9th seeded ‘game’ in the Beef Regional is missing? Obviously (9) BBQ beef ribs is the winner, but I’m curious as to who it beat.

    If someone else mentioned this already, feel free to ignore me.[/quote]
    It’s there. There just isn’t a paragraph break between it and the porterhouse vs. Steak-Umms matchup.

    The #8 seed is smoked brisket.

    [quote comment=”319281″]Maybe it’s been mentioned, but has anyone notice that in Paul’s Meat Bracket the 8th and 9th seeded ‘game’ in the Beef Regional is missing? Obviously (9) BBQ beef ribs is the winner, but I’m curious as to who it beat.

    If someone else mentioned this already, feel free to ignore me.[/quote]

    Its there – its jammed together with the 1-16 matchup. Smoked brisket lost.

    [quote comment=”319283″][quote comment=”319281″]Maybe it’s been mentioned, but has anyone notice that in Paul’s Meat Bracket the 8th and 9th seeded ‘game’ in the Beef Regional is missing? Obviously (9) BBQ beef ribs is the winner, but I’m curious as to who it beat.

    If someone else mentioned this already, feel free to ignore me.[/quote]
    It’s there. There just isn’t a paragraph break between it and the porterhouse vs. Steak-Umms matchup.

    The #8 seed is smoked brisket.[/quote]

    ohhh gotcha. my eyes completely deceived me on that one, thanks

    thank god the lions logo wasn’t radically altered. i love that logo. i am glad they didn’t ruin one of the nfl’s traditional logo’s too badly. it is a relief compared to other designs i have seen.

    [quote comment=”319145″]Lions did not have memorial patch for Chuck Hughes true, but DID sport a black armband on the left sleeve. It covered the thick inner NW stripe on both white and honolulu blue jerseys.[/quote]

    Here you go: link

    [quote comment=”319287″][quote comment=”319145″]Lions did not have memorial patch for Chuck Hughes true, but DID sport a black armband on the left sleeve. It covered the thick inner NW stripe on both white and honolulu blue jerseys.[/quote]

    Here you go: link

    good show larry

    /goddam that’s a beautiful uni

    [quote comment=”319270″][quote]I meant that I don’t think they are amazingly awesome, but I don’t think they belong on any “worst” uniforms list[/quote]

    oh…agreed

    7 of those 9 don’t belong on a “worst” list…in fact they should be on a best list, which is where you thought you might be going (and you’d be right)…just checkin’ ;)[/quote]
    OK, I should have listened to you in the first place and just ignore this list, but since I didn’t, I feel compelled to assess all nine of these.

    #9) DePaul: These are so close to being great that it’s kinda frustrating. I love the red and white striped trim. The font for the wordmark and numbers sucks and that little demon head on the shorts is stupid-looking. But those flaws are tolerable.

    #8) Indiana: These fall into the category of “so bad that they’re good.” Check that. They’re so awful that they’re sublime.

    #7) Syracuse: Kinda nondescript, but inoffensive.

    #6) Oregon/#5) Maryland: OK, I’ll give you these. They might just belong on the list.

    #4) Tennessee: I’m not crazy about the side panels, but this is another solid uni.

    #3) Marquette: Easily one of the best uniforms in college basketball — all four versions. The best part? They link every year.

    #2) Morehead State: The link leaves a bit to be desired, but this is another nice uni.

    #1) Not beautiful, but there’s nothing wrong with these at all.

    oops. Shoulda said:
    #1) Michigan State: Not beautiful, but there’s nothing wrong with these at all.

    [quote comment=”319148″]Remember the brewha that we’ve had in the past with pink jersey in college football practices.

    Well it goes over better in Brazil.

    link

    My old softball team in Fort Worth had a woman’s pink shirt (size small) “borrowed” from one of the wives that you had to wear if you struck out, because, c’mon, striking out in slowpitch…

    Tony in Erie.

    [quote comment=”319194″]I know that this is late for today, but during the WBC Final last night, but Yong-Kyu Lee tried to steal second in the 5th and ran right into the shortstop’s knee with his face and batting helmet.

    I do have a question for everyone: It seemed as though Korea was wearing a different style of batting helmet. Any details on that? I am stunned that the helmet broke in pieces like that on someone’s ankle.

    Kinda makes you wonder how much safety you’d have from a line drive if it just cracks into pieces like that on simple human driven force.[/quote]

    The ZETT helmets have a very different look and I think that is what the South Korean team was using.

    Picture of the helmets here.
    link

    Lee did not hit the shortstop’s ankle, it was his knee.

    My thinking is that the World Classic people did not say that teams had to use the cool-flo helmets that we are used to seeing. Instead they probably said “nothing” about helmet safety except for the base coaches. Supposedly each of these helmets does meet some safety standards.

    But we have seen helmets shatter by pitched balls, Sammy Sosa.

    link

    The Pittsburgh Spirit also used to have a ad tag line that said “We’ve got 15 guys (or however players were on a roster)who can go all night.” Sexy-a-go-go indeed!

    [quote comment=”319229″][quote comment=”319213″][quote comment=”319208″][quote comment=”319201″]…but neither one is all that ‘unsafe’…as long as you’re not stupid[/quote]That’s always been my reaction to people who complain about safety. Granted, I’ve grown up in Chicago so I’m a little more aware of our particular does and don’ts: but using some common sense is all you really need to get in and get out of the stadiums & arenas here. Just ask if you’re from out of town; people will be happy to help.[/quote]
    I’m glad to hear this refreshing outlook. I could have used your help back when I was defending some Pittsburgh neighborhoods prior to Paul’s visit to the Steel City![/quote]

    war-torn oakland?!!? hahahahaha[/quote]

    Absolute Bad Form!

    [quote comment=”319264″][quote comment=”319253″]
    It’s just a cat eye mask. Common enough style of cage back then, and the NCAA requires cages now, they very well might have back then too, don’t know how far back that policy goes.

    I know a guy who still plays with one, actually. They’re not certified anymore though, stick butt ends can get through the cat eyes. And without HECC certification, no helmet or cage gets sold these days.[/quote]

    Good call. I forgot about the cage rules in the NCAA.

    However, I’m still interested in the story behind these cages.[/quote]
    Not much story to them, they were supposed to give you better vision then a traditional cage. Safety concerns killed them.

    However, they link if you want one.

    [quote comment=”319295″][quote comment=”319264″][quote comment=”319253″]
    It’s just a cat eye mask. Common enough style of cage back then, and the NCAA requires cages now, they very well might have back then too, don’t know how far back that policy goes.

    I know a guy who still plays with one, actually. They’re not certified anymore though, stick butt ends can get through the cat eyes. And without HECC certification, no helmet or cage gets sold these days.[/quote]

    Good call. I forgot about the cage rules in the NCAA.

    However, I’m still interested in the story behind these cages.[/quote]
    Not much story to them, they were supposed to give you better vision then a traditional cage. Safety concerns killed them.

    However, they link if you want one.[/quote]
    I should add that the cages are the same for goalies and players- a lot of goalies used player helmets.

    Incidentally, that cage would go great if you could get one of those old cooper helmets off of Osgood…

    [quote comment=”319276″]http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Images/09%20Blogs/AFLjerseys_090324.jpg[/quote]

    I saw that the NFL was going to have throwback games for the old AFL. But somebody said the Broncos did not have white jerseys for that uniform? I am not sure about that statement or not.

    This says the Broncos will wear brown and yellow.
    But are they wearing the socks?

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    [quote comment=”319267″]The accuracy of this is unknowable, but someone on the Broncos posting board claims to have confirmation from Broncos PR boss Jim Saccomano that the team will indeed be wearing vertically striped socks. Let’s hope it’s true!

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    What is the point if the Broncos do not wear the socks.

    As a comment in that says the Radiers will not be wearing the original black from 1960.

    When are these teams going to get it right? If you’re going to go to all of that trouble and make this a big 50th anniversary season, you should take care of the details.

    I believe they gave each team the option to wear “a” uniform from their AFL days – not necessarily the 1960 uni.

    The Bills’ 1965 unis are more recognizable than their ’60s togs, which were identical to the Lions’. Same goes for the 1963 Raiders; the 1960-62 version looks more like the Bears. On the other side, the Chiefs and Jets have uniforms that currently resemble their AFL counterparts – hence the ’62 Dallas Texans and ’61 NY Titans unis.

    Aside from the Chargers, I’d have to say the Broncos’ unis are the ones I’m looking forward to the most. Eagerly awaiting the brown-and-mustard striped socks…

    [quote comment=”319286″]thank god the lions logo wasn’t radically altered. i love that logo. i am glad they didn’t ruin one of the nfl’s traditional logo’s too badly. it is a relief compared to other designs i have seen.[/quote]

    Yep, the Lions logo is one of the best. I’m also a big fan of the color scheme. I played around with the logo and came up with these: link the one in the middle was not finished.

    Anyway, SportsCenter mentioned the Lions toy truck with new logo being pulled from the website.

    [quote comment=”319277″]AHL Jersey auction for the Prov. Bruins:

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    also: possibly best temper tantrum of year

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    Why no photo of the front of the jersey?

    [quote comment=”319375″][quote comment=”319277″]AHL Jersey auction for the Prov. Bruins:

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    No pic of the FRONT????[/quote]

    Feh. Stupid double-posting me.

    [quote comment=”319266″]This implies that Little Havana is a “high crime” area of Miami, which it certainly is not. It’s really quite lovely. Cubans are not an underclass in Miami. The movie Scarface was about a particular 1980 group of criminal exiles from Cuba, nothing to do with the established Cuban community.[/quote]
    And I clearly said that it might have been one of the knocks. I didn’t say it was the ONLY knock, nor did I say it was definitely even ONE of the knocks.

    Teams move for all sorts of reasons. Skybox economics, parking (e.g., Baltimore Memorial Stadium; which was also in a residential neighborhood) and others. I would say that its very unusual for a stadium to be abandoned for a period of years and then have a NEW stadium built at that very same site.

    Miami has a history of trying to revitalize neighborhoods with stadiums/arenas. And to be fair, they’re not the only city that has tried this. IMHO, its a waste of money.

    The question was valid. I’m certainly not the only person who has raised the issue.

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    “The flight of many middle class patrons to the suburbs, perhaps due to the desire for a decrease in crime, better schools, and enhanced public services is seen as a major reason for the close of the Orange Bowl. “

    [quote comment=”319228″]Your comment about the Pittsburg soccer team made me think, is there any other city where all the pro sports franchises share the same color scheme? Example Steelers, Pirates, and Penguins all using black and gold. Being a Cleveland native this wouldn’t work to well because I don’t think anyone would want to see the Cavs in brown and orange. Now also being a Bowling Green alum I have seen it in use.[/quote]Toronto’s been known for blue for years: the Jays (formerly Blue Jays) were just the latest team. The Leafs have worn blue and white for 70 years, the Argos are known as the Double Blue. Shoot, even the University of Toronto’s teams are named the Varsity Blues.

    Ottawa (red, black and white) and Montreal ([i]bleu, blanc et rouge[/i]) are the same.

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