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Uni Watch Field Trip: A Visit to the Western Pennsylvania Sports Museum

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One of the highlights of my recent trip to Pittsburgh was a visit to the Heinz History Center, which includes the Western Pennsylvania Sports Museum. I took a lot of photos here, so let’s get right to it (with apologies for the inevitable problems with glare and reflection when photographing things in glass cases):

• Here’s a great factory team uniform, circa 1955 (details here), along with a jacket from the same team, different year.

• And here’s a junior police team uniform, circa 1944, worn by a young player whose high school didn’t have a team.

This is an autographed 1960 Dick Groat jersey, notable primarily for its tagging.

• Would you believe that a big league GM gave a player a raise in 1948 without the player even asking for it? It’s true, at least according to this letter.

• May favorite thing in the entire museum was this display, devoted to a local marble-shooting champion. Yeah, I know, marbles, but c’mon — look at that jersey and patch!

• If you’ve spent any time looking at Negro Leagues photos, you know it’s practically an iron-clad rule that one player was always wearing last year’s uniform, or another team’s uniform, or something out of step with the rest of the team.

• Here’s a really great story: In 1949, a local schoolgirl embroidered this shirt with the likenesses of Ralph Kiner, Wally Westlake, and Babe Ruth, and then sent it to Kiner and Westlake for them to autograph (the Babe had already died, alas). Kiner not only autographed it but sent it back with this cover letter. Dig that stationery!

• The football section included an entire wall of letterman jackets and sweaters. But my favorite jacket was this one. That chest patch is near-perfection.

• I really liked this display showing a ref’s jersey, whistles, score sheet, and flags.

• Another highlight: This Steelers cheerleaders display. Additional pics here.

• I was happy to see they had a small mention of L.C. Greenwood’s gold shoes.

This was a local football team called the Oilers. I love that there’s an oil derrick in the background.

• And here’s an all-black football team, wearing a jersey style I’ve never seen before.

• You know those old-fashioned football nose guards? Here’s an early patent drawing.

• Apparently the Pittsburgh boxing community is still pissed off about the Louis/Conn fight (Conn was a local hero). I didn’t get any pics of the Conn memorabilia at the museum, but I did get a shot of this great robe and accompanying set of trunks. Not sure why a Pittsburgh fighter had “NY” on his trunks, but whatever — gorgeous.

This is Chuck Cooper’s All-American uniform. Note the photo at lower-right — I didn’t realize the Celtics had once worn uni numbers on their shorts. And why doesn’t the shorts number match the jersey number?
• Several excellent old basketball uniforms here.

• I love the soccer jacket shown on the right. Here’s a close-up.

• And it won’t surprise anyone to hear that I also love this Pop Warner jacket, rendered in green and gold.

• Unusual artifact here. The United Black Front was a local activist organization, and you’ve gotta love an activist agenda that includes softball.

• The museum even features some swimming exhibits, including a tremendous Olympic time trails patch, a photo of the 1932 U.S. Olympic team, and a shot of some rather revealing swimwear.

• Finally, there’s this. I’ll let it speak for itself.

Phew! It’s worth noting, incidentally, that the Heinz facility also features a really great exhibit that documents the history of the Heinz company itself, including a photo of the Heinz baseball team, circa 1907 (note that they’re even using Heinz baseball bats), and a display showing the uniforms worn by female workers at the Heinz plant. Just goes to show that all roads lead back to uniforms.

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And now a word from Vince Grzegorek: If I have one lasting legacy at Uni Watch, it probably won’t be writing about Brownie the Elf at every opportunity, or for being Paul’s first intern. No, it most likely will be for running the site’s annual NCAA tournament contest.

So let’s get this going. In the past I’ve come up with convoluted point systems and spent a lot of time scoring each entry by hand. But I’m much too busy for that this year, so screw that. Instead, we’re going to run a normal bracket challenge. To sign up, go to this site. Our group name is Uni Watch, our group ID is 68140, and our password is stirrups (all lowercase).

The top five winners will get to choose from the following prizes, all provided by Paul:

1. A free Uni Watch membership.

2. A free T-shirt from our friends at Pennant Race Gear.

3. An MLB logo wristwatch. (Full disclosure: Although it’s never been used, it appears to need a new battery. — PL)

4. A Bimbo Mexican soccer jersey, size large (contributed to the cause by reader Jeremy Deason — PL).

5. A copy of the new book Cubs by the Numbers.

Top winner gets his or her choice of prizes, second-place winner gets to choose from the remaining four prizes, and so on.

Hey, how about that economy?: Paul here again. As some of you are aware, changes are afoot at Distant Replays. Here’s a quick imaginary press conference about what this means from a Uni Watch perspective:

New enrollees in the membership program used to get a $10 Distant Replays gift code. Are you still offering that benefit?
No, effective immediately.

I ordered my membership card a few weeks ago but haven’t received it yet. I thought I was getting the $10 gift code. What happens to me?
There are 16 of you out there who fit this description (some of you have been waiting way too long for your cards, and I’m sorry about that — life has been hectic lately). Those 16 cards will mail out this week, and unfortunately they will not be accompanied by Distant Replays gift codes. If you feel gypped or baited-and-switched, get in touch and we’ll work something out.

I received my Distant Replays gift code with my membership two months ago but haven’t redeemed the $10 code yet. Will I still be able to redeem it when the company goes back online?
Good question. I’ve asked Andy and Rav about this, and so far they haven’t responded. I know them well enough to know they aren’t just blowing me off — I think they just have much bigger things to worry about at the moment. If I had to guess, my hunch would be that old gift codes will not be honored when DR resurfaces. But we’ll have to wait and see.

Sorry for the hassle. Feel free to be in touch if you have further questions about any of this.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The Thrashers appear to have a 10th-anniversary logo slated for next season, and holy shit is it a stinker. … Negro Leagues shorts alert! That’s Prince Joe Henry, the Detroit Clowns player who often had some, uh, unique uniform stylings (but not always). Those pics were contributed by Jared Wheeler, who also sent along shots of an old Houston warm-up jacket from the Slama era, a 1940s Harvard hoops jersey, a Senators jersey with a Jerry Cosby tag (“Never seen his tag on a baseball uniform,” says Jared), a Willie Stargell cap (that’s the closest look I’ve ever gotten of the stars — note that only the one on the right appears to be properly oriented), and — the real prize — a sleeve patch from the 1944 minor league Orioles. Thing of beauty, no? … This is really cool (nice find by Charles Neiswender). … But this is just ridiculous (blame Mark Doescher). … Jordan Wiley has created an interesting project: He’s created an a listing of the best logo treatment for each letter of the alphabet. In other words, this is A, this is B, etc. I don’t agree with most of his choices, but that’s kinda beside the point, cuz it’s an interesting little project. I wish he’d put all his letter choices side by side in one big composite alphabet (get working on that pronto, Jordan!), but for now you can check out his breakdown here. … On Friday I mentioned that I’d been surprised to learn that the Milwaukee Braves had offered stock to the public. That prompted the following from Terry Paffenroth: “The stock was a huge issue when the team’s new ownership started making the plans to move the team out of Milwaukee, because they had buy up that remaining stock from people, most of whom who were not about to sell and lose the team. The plan that eventually took shape was that minority stockholders who would not sell were given a letter saying that their shares were being voided in exchange for a voucher for season tickets — in Atlanta. And just for the first season. Next time I see my grandparents, I’ll try and find their old stock certificate, along with the letter and voucher. They small stockholders and were given two tickets. The largest number I have come across was for six tickets.” … Kentucky wore black uniforms on Friday. … The Fresno Grizzlies have some new alt/promo jerseys (with thanks to William Paul Barrett). … Check out this square-formatted NOB (nice find by Robert Saietta). … Tequila sundrise over Blacksburg. … Brett Crane notes that Kevin Youkilis is wearing his #20 elbow guard in the WBC, even though his WBC uni number is 21. … Maybe we’ve covered this before and I’m just suffering from brain-lock, but what’s up with the ‘Pops’ patch? … Here’s the logo for the 2011 Pan-Am games (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Bob Ruffolo was inside the new Yankee Stadium on Saturday and took a bunch of photos. … The Rangers’ two-tone helmet lives on, at least for now, in a team commercial (screen grab courtesy of Josh Jarmon). … Lots of college basketball uni musings here. … Greg Riffenburgh notes that Arsenal’s Russian signee, Andrei Arshavin, has been wearing at least two different kinds of cleats, as seen here and here (that’s him in the background). … Soccer note from Joe DeLong, who writes: “I was watching Serie A soccer highlights on Sunday and saw that Filippo Inzaghi of AC Milan scored his 300th career goal and was immediately presented with a No. 300 jersey.” Details here. … Doug Keklak sent along this shot from the 1956 Johnstown High School yearbook. Weird to see that the whole team had uni numbers in the 70s and 80s — I realize those numbers were legal in h.s. hoops back then, but it’s still odd that they’d only use numbers in that range. … Luke Mohamed reports that Sidney Crosby, who normally wears a visor, was visor-free during part the first period of yesterday’s Pens game. … The 1898 Spalding Ice Hockey and Ice Polo Guide, which is believed to be the earliest hockey guidebook, is now accessible online — complete with ads. … Interesting 2005 story here about bunting — this kind, not this kind (nice find by Mike Ortman). … St. Paddy’s Week has officially arrived, as the Raptors wore green last night. … As promised, supercross racer Kevin Windham wore Saints-themed gear on Saturday (with thanks to Sean Clancy). … Don D. snapped this shot of an adult league hockey team called the Charlie Browns. “The uniform also has a shoulder patch with Snoopy biting through a hockey stick, à la the Sharks,” he adds. … Only in America, or so I’d assume (thanks, Phil). … Also from Phil: Think this guy’s got enough swooshes?

 

118 comments to Uni Watch Field Trip: A Visit to the Western Pennsylvania Sports Museum

  • Priest | March 16, 2009 at 8:34 am |

    Looks like the Islanders will have to wait another year to wear their third jerseys as the primaries…

    http://www.islanders...

  • Peter | March 16, 2009 at 8:46 am |

    Shouldn’t the Isles (who I must say are actually playign fairly decent, but alas..too little, too late)…being wearing these as third Jersey’s?

    http://image8.usedva...

  • Joe Barrie | March 16, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    I remember seeing a Gerry Cosby tag on the sweatband of a Red Sox cap they sold in the 70’s. I don’t recall seeing this labeling when the store was in a brownstone at 12 West 48th Street.

    The Orioles sold stock for years in the past.

  • Bret the Jet | March 16, 2009 at 9:03 am |

    There’s something about an Aqua. Velva. Commercial.

    Featuring Pete Rose, Steve Garvey and Dick Butkus. Intruiging how the baseball players got to use MLB uniforms and logos, while the football players had stock generics.

  • Randy Miller | March 16, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    From the ’30s through the ’50s, it was not unusual for basketball teams (and others) to use consecutively numbered jerseys. I remember reading a John R. Tunis book in which the coach explained that was the procedure to make jerseys.

    The numbering scheme was also used in other sports. The Cincinnati Reds used consecutive numbers in 1938 with Ernie Lombardi surrendering his usual 4 for 35. That would be year Johnny Vandermeet wore 57 while throwing the back-to-back no-hitters.

  • Original Jim | March 16, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    Funny thing about that 1956 Johnstown picture…a few of the players are wearing different numbers on their shorts, just like the Chuck Cooper Celtics picture.

  • Beardface | March 16, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    Virginia Tech has uploaded a ton of old videos to YouTube. Here is a colored one of Virginia Tech football in the 1960’s…

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Shane | March 16, 2009 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”318304″]Shouldn’t the Isles (who I must say are actually playign fairly decent, but alas..too little, too late)…being wearing these as third Jersey’s?

    http://image8.usedva...

    The Scouts went to Denver, and then New Jersey, not Long Island.

  • Mark K | March 16, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”318310″][quote comment=”318304″]Shouldn’t the Isles (who I must say are actually playign fairly decent, but alas..too little, too late)…being wearing these as third Jersey’s?

    http://image8.usedva...

    The Scouts went to Denver, and then New Jersey, not Long Island.[/quote]

    I think he’s talking about them moving TO KC, not from there.

  • Dawn | March 16, 2009 at 9:42 am |

    The article in the ticker about the Syracuse and Seton Hall uniforms mentions that Syracuse has an interesting arrangement of footwear (they all wear different shoes).

    While I was getting my master’s at Syracuse in 2005-2006 I made extra money by tutoring the basketball team. I worked mostly with Eric Devendorf and Andy Rautins, but helped almost everyone at some point (except G-mac of course).

    One day after reading something on Uni Watch about matching basketball shoes I asked Eric why they all wear different shoes. His response was something along the lines of…everyone has different opinions about what fits and feels good and it would be stupid to make them all wear the same thing just so it would match.

  • Dave | March 16, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    Re: the Pops patch…I think Willie Stargell was a Braves coach when he passed away.

  • Peter | March 16, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”318310″][quote comment=”318304″]Shouldn’t the Isles (who I must say are actually playign fairly decent, but alas..too little, too late)…being wearing these as third Jersey’s?

    http://image8.usedva...

    The Scouts went to Denver, and then New Jersey, not Long Island.[/quote]

    …**I know my history…just that it’s my glee in that the Isles are very possibly moving to KC

  • John | March 16, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    The Charlie Browns jersey may just be the Best.Jersey.Ever. (I NEED to see the Snoopy-Shark patch)

    And the Isles ain’t moving. No way they’ll give up the NY TV revenue.

  • Lomion | March 16, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    Ralph Kiner is my new hero.

    The Duquesne Ironmen: They work hard, they play hard.

    Can anyone shed some light on the multiplicity of that ref’s flags? Did they used to use multiple kinds of flags for signalling?

  • Artrip | March 16, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    Is Prince Joe Henry wearing a fisherman’s hat in that at bat picture, is it a rimless or backwards facing batting helmet? I thought it might just be warm up, but there are a lot of people in the stands, I have never seen anything like that before (pardon my ignorance if this has already been covered)

  • Ry Co 40 | March 16, 2009 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”318314″][quote comment=”318310″][quote comment=”318304″]Shouldn’t the Isles (who I must say are actually playign fairly decent, but alas..too little, too late)…being wearing these as third Jersey’s?

    http://image8.usedva...

    The Scouts went to Denver, and then New Jersey, not Long Island.[/quote]

    …**I know my history…just that it’s my glee in that the Isles are very possibly moving to KC[/quote]

    not to be “nit-picky”… but… aren’t the chiefs and royals close to moving OUT of KC???

  • Kek | March 16, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”318313″]Re: the Pops patch…I think Willie Stargell was a Braves coach when he passed away.[/quote]
    Pretty sure Pops was only with the Braves during Chuck Tanner’s three years as manager there, but I could be wrong.

    I’m pretty sure he was working for the Pirates at the time of his death.

  • LI Phil | March 16, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”318318″][quote comment=”318314″][quote comment=”318310″][quote comment=”318304″]Shouldn’t the Isles (who I must say are actually playign fairly decent, but alas..too little, too late)…being wearing these as third Jersey’s?

    http://image8.usedva...

    The Scouts went to Denver, and then New Jersey, not Long Island.[/quote]

    …**I know my history…just that it’s my glee in that the Isles are very possibly moving to KC[/quote]

    not to be “nit-picky”… but… aren’t the chiefs and royals close to moving OUT of KC???[/quote]

    i think he’s more excited about *bad* things happening to the isles than anything relating to kc; if they were possibly moving to podunk, he’d be happy

  • David | March 16, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    Those “Charlie Brown” hockey jerseys are faily common among the very low level amateur hockey leagues. For example, here in Cincinnati the D5 amateur hockey bracket has about 4 different versions of that same design, they just alternate the colors. Once you get into D4 upper and D3 you start to see more unique uniforms due to sponsors.

  • Perry | March 16, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    Jeez, didn’t you read Ball Four? The fact that the Pirates were offering Frank Gustine a raise to $12K probably meant he’d had a season worth $25K. Heck, now that I look at it, the letter’s even from Roy Hamey, the same GM who screwed Bouton over early in his career.

    That injury must have finished him. He had a poor year in ’48, was traded after the season, and out of the game within 2 years.

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”318320″]
    i think he’s more excited about *bad* things happening to the isles than anything relating to kc; if they were possibly moving to podunk, he’d be happy[/quote]

    You know what I love about people wanting to see the Islanders move to Kansas City?

    They’re still going to stink as a team. The only difference is that they’ll have a bigger arena to fill up with that stink.

    And with Bettman stating on the record that moving is the very last possible option in all cases of teams struggling, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I lived in KC.

  • Peter | March 16, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    We have a crappy hockey team here in Poughkeepsie!! The HV Bears http://ephlfanzone.c...
    (EPHL…very uninspired uni’s…I would like to ask if there has ever been a worse team (in the minors and I am well aware of the Binghamton Whalers) record of 3 wins and 42 Losses….I think we have a new winner!!

    Does a Uniform reflect how poorly a team does?

  • Mike Engle | March 16, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”318324″]We have a crappy hockey team here in Poughkeepsie!! The HV Bears http://ephlfanzone.c...
    (EPHL…very uninspired uni’s…I would like to ask if there has ever been a worse team (in the minors and I am well aware of the Binghamton Whalers) record of 3 wins and 42 Losses….I think we have a new winner!!

    Does a Uniform reflect how poorly a team does?[/quote]
    Wow, those “things” look like practice jerseys!
    I’m really sorry for your team. Seriously.

  • Ray | March 16, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    One of the many nice things about seeing Brodeur tie Roy’s record in Montreal on Saturday night was seeing the home team in WHITE jerseys. Can we please bring back white at home!!

  • Ry Co 40 | March 16, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”318323″][quote comment=”318320″]
    i think he’s more excited about *bad* things happening to the isles than anything relating to kc; if they were possibly moving to podunk, he’d be happy[/quote]

    You know what I love about people wanting to see the Islanders move to Kansas City?

    They’re still going to stink as a team. The only difference is that they’ll have a bigger arena to fill up with that stink.

    And with Bettman stating on the record that moving is the very last possible option in all cases of teams struggling, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I lived in KC.[/quote]

    i dont believe bettman one bit, but i dont think the islanders are gonna move anywhere anytime soon. my point was, KC better worry about kepping the teams the have…

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”318327″]
    i dont believe bettman one bit, but i dont think the islanders are gonna move anywhere anytime soon. my point was, KC better worry about kepping the teams the have…[/quote]

    Well, he kept the Penguins in Pittsburgh, and the Predators are still in Nashville.

    I’d say his track record in the new millenium for not moving teams is 100%.

    I agree about keeping the teams they have, though. Far better to be identified with them then trying to establish a new brand.

  • Ry Co 40 | March 16, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”318326″]One of the many nice things about seeing Brodeur tie Roy’s record in Montreal on Saturday night was seeing the home team in WHITE jerseys. Can we please bring back white at home!![/quote]

    got my vote! pens wore white at home yesterday, it was great!

  • War Damn Eagle | March 16, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    Japanese flag logo on the socks:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Perry | March 16, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    That’s not actually a “Bimbo” soccer jersey. Bimbo is just the shirt sponsor. They make baked goods. The team is Club America, out of Mexico City, one of the top clubs in Mexico.

  • anotherguy | March 16, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    I saw the Islander’s uniforms yesterday: anyone have info on the bars on top of the right shoulder? Any purpose to it, or is it simply artistic???

    Or maybe they are being sponsored by a cell phone company?

  • TD | March 16, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    I think “Pops” was Danville Braves coach Mel Roberts, who died a couple years ago.

  • The Ol Goaler | March 16, 2009 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”318316″]Can anyone shed some light on the multiplicity of that ref’s flags? Did they used to use multiple kinds of flags for signalling?[/quote]
    They still do… the “bean bag” allows the official stat crew to accurately measure punt/fumble returns. If a player steps out of bounds and comes back in-bounds (illegal in some instances), the official will throw his hat to mark the place where the player left the field!

  • Peter | March 16, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    The Iowa hall of Pride in des Moines is a another locale Museum that is filled with great Athletic Uni’s & History (HS & College) … http://www.iowahallo......

    I learned about this place when I was in Des Moines directing my first shows …we interviewed several members/board persons….I was really surprised at what they had assembled!

  • Peter | March 16, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”318332″]I saw the Islander’s uniforms yesterday: anyone have info on the bars on top of the right shoulder? Any purpose to it, or is it simply artistic???

    Or maybe they are being sponsored by a cell phone company?[/quote]

    4 bars = 4 cups

  • Original Jim | March 16, 2009 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”318332″]I saw the Islander’s uniforms yesterday: anyone have info on the bars on top of the right shoulder? Any purpose to it, or is it simply artistic???

    Or maybe they are being sponsored by a cell phone company?[/quote]

    The stripes symbolize the 4 Stanley Cups won by the team in the early 80’s.

  • The Ol Goaler | March 16, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”318332″]I saw the Islander’s uniforms yesterday: anyone have info on the bars on top of the right shoulder? Any purpose to it, or is it simply artistic???

    Or maybe they are being sponsored by a cell phone company?[/quote]
    The bars stand for the four Stanley Cups won by the team…

  • Peter | March 16, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    (last one for the day)…

    But Cutler would look good in Jets Green!!

    (go get him!! now!!)

  • Beardface | March 16, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”318323″][quote comment=”318320″]
    i think he’s more excited about *bad* things happening to the isles than anything relating to kc; if they were possibly moving to podunk, he’d be happy[/quote]

    You know what I love about people wanting to see the Islanders move to Kansas City?

    They’re still going to stink as a team. The only difference is that they’ll have a bigger arena to fill up with that stink.

    And with Bettman stating on the record that moving is the very last possible option in all cases of teams struggling, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I lived in KC.[/quote]
    Bettman has all but told everyone that the NHL will do everything it can to keep the Isles in NY. Lets see, the last time he said something like that, the Pens wound up with Crosby, Malkin, and Fleury and the Caps ended up with Ovechkin and Semin.

    Why am I getting the feeling that the Isles are all but guaranteed Tavares in this year’s draft?

  • Mark K | March 16, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”318334″][quote comment=”318316″]Can anyone shed some light on the multiplicity of that ref’s flags? Did they used to use multiple kinds of flags for signalling?[/quote]
    They still do… the “bean bag” allows the official stat crew to accurately measure punt/fumble returns. If a player steps out of bounds and comes back in-bounds (illegal in some instances), the official will throw his hat to mark the place where the player left the field![/quote]

    Bean bags have nothing to do with stats. They’re used to mark potential penalty enforcement spots (end of a scrimmage kick or end of a run when the ball is fumbled, as examples). Notice in college ball you won’t see the bag down on an interception, nor will you see it mark the spot where a kickoff is caught in any level of football- both critical to the stats guy but not to the officials.

  • S. Bennett | March 16, 2009 at 11:10 am |

    Might be interested in this if you haven’t already seen it:

    Interview with a Nike kit designer.

    http://www.truecolou...

    Enjoy.

    SB

  • Anotherguy | March 16, 2009 at 11:13 am |

    Thanks for the info re: the symbolism of the four bars on the Islander uniforms.

    They’re kind of in a trick box now though, aren’t they? They almost have to wait until they win another one before they can take those bars off.

  • dgc | March 16, 2009 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”318340″][quote comment=”318323″][quote comment=”318320″]
    i think he’s more excited about *bad* things happening to the isles than anything relating to kc; if they were possibly moving to podunk, he’d be happy[/quote]

    You know what I love about people wanting to see the Islanders move to Kansas City?

    They’re still going to stink as a team. The only difference is that they’ll have a bigger arena to fill up with that stink.

    And with Bettman stating on the record that moving is the very last possible option in all cases of teams struggling, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I lived in KC.[/quote]
    Bettman has all but told everyone that the NHL will do everything it can to keep the Isles in NY. Lets see, the last time he said something like that, the Pens wound up with Crosby, Malkin, and Fleury and the Caps ended up with Ovechkin and Semin.

    Why am I getting the feeling that the Isles are all but guaranteed Tavares in this year’s draft?[/quote]

    Caps haven’t threatened to move since the early 80s. And Semin was #13 overall and if you followed the drama surrounding the guy’s return to the NHL, I wouldn’t exactly call him “delivered”.

  • Anotherguy | March 16, 2009 at 11:23 am |

    One other question: can anyone read the “PS” in the Pittsburgh Pirates contract cover letter?

    Is it “No players are permitted to drive back “east“? Interesting rider if it is that.

  • Joe Barrie | March 16, 2009 at 11:30 am |

    The original numbers on Yankee uniforms referred to the place in the batting order.

    I recall after WW2 that the Reds and the Giants used low (usually single) numbers for manager, coaches and catchers, 11-19 for infielders, 20-29 for outfielders, and higher numbers for pitchers.

    Of course, position changes messed things up (e.g. Irvin or Lockman at first for the Giants. Bobby Thomson, though he did start as 19, was switched to 23 when the Giants acquired Alvin Dark.

  • pitnasty | March 16, 2009 at 11:37 am |

    if alabama state had NOB this guy would go shoulder to shoulder http://www.bamastate...

  • Hank | March 16, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”318336″][quote comment=”318332″]I saw the Islander’s uniforms yesterday: anyone have info on the bars on top of the right shoulder? Any purpose to it, or is it simply artistic???

    Or maybe they are being sponsored by a cell phone company?[/quote]

    4 bars = 4 cups[/quote]

    Isles should contact a certain mobile phone carrier (who has more bars) for a sponsorship deal. Just alter the bar lenghts and there ya go.

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”318340″][quote comment=”318323″][quote comment=”318320″]
    i think he’s more excited about *bad* things happening to the isles than anything relating to kc; if they were possibly moving to podunk, he’d be happy[/quote]

    You know what I love about people wanting to see the Islanders move to Kansas City?

    They’re still going to stink as a team. The only difference is that they’ll have a bigger arena to fill up with that stink.

    And with Bettman stating on the record that moving is the very last possible option in all cases of teams struggling, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I lived in KC.[/quote]
    Bettman has all but told everyone that the NHL will do everything it can to keep the Isles in NY. Lets see, the last time he said something like that, the Pens wound up with Crosby, Malkin, and Fleury and the Caps ended up with Ovechkin and Semin.

    Why am I getting the feeling that the Isles are all but guaranteed Tavares in this year’s draft?[/quote]

    Are you insane?

    The Penguins and Capitals were the terrible teams around the 2005 missed season. Let’s review, shall we?

    In 2002, the Penguins drafted Ryan Whitney 5th overall. The Capitals drafted Semin 13th overall. The Penguins were the 5th-worst team in the NHL. Rigged? NO.

    In 2003, the Penguins drafted Marc-Andre Fleury 1st overall. They finished the season 29th out of 30 teams. They moved up one spot ahead of the Carolina Hurricanes who drafted Eric Staal. Rigged? NO.

    In 2004, the Penguins drafted Evgeni Malkin 2nd overall. The Caps drafted Alexander Ovechkin 1st overall. The Penguins finished dead last with 58 points, followed by the Capitals who finished with 59 points. Rigged? NO.

    In 2005, there was no season, so every team had a shot at Crosby. The number of balls in the lottery was determined on the previous playoff performances and first-round picks. The Penguins had three balls in the draft lottery, as did Buffalo, Columbus, and the NY Rangers. The key, though, is that EVERY TEAM had a shot at Crosby. Pittsburgh won the lottery and drafted Crosby, followed by a very good Anaheim team who drafted second and took Bobby Ryan. And just to make sure I scratch your undercarriage, BF, Carolina drafted third overall that year and took Jack Johnson. Rigged? NO.

    In 2006, Pittsburgh drafted Jordan Staal 2nd overall. Pittsburgh finished one point behind St. Louis who drafted at the #1 spot and took Erik Johnston. Pittsburgh was 29th out of 30 teams. Rigged? NO.

    I’m not sure how you figure it would be possible to rig the lottery system, but wouldn’t every cash lottery be rigged as well if you go by that thinking?

  • Seth H | March 16, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    Islanders are snakebit.

    The LightHouse project (which includes the new arena) just lost its lead attorney, Larry Feldman, at age 51 to a heart attack. Swell guy and an excellent golfer.

    Here is an obit: http://www.newsday.c...

    (And before you start getting snarky, the purpose of this post was to give props to Larry, not to mock the Islanders or him.)

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”318350″]Islanders are snakebit.

    The LightHouse project (which includes the new arena) just lost its lead attorney, Larry Feldman, at age 51 to a heart attack. Swell guy and an excellent golfer.

    Here is an obit: http://www.newsday.c...

    (And before you start getting snarky, the purpose of this post was to give props to Larry, not to mock the Islanders or him.)[/quote]

    That’s horrible. That franchise would be better off with no luck than the luck they currently have.

    RIP Mr. Feldman.

  • RaoulDuke | March 16, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    “Prince” Joe Henry wrote an advice column for The Riverfront Times in St.Louis, for a few years before his death.

    Heres some of his stuff:

    http://www.riverfron...

  • LI Phil | March 16, 2009 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”318351″][quote comment=”318350″]Islanders are snakebit.

    The LightHouse project (which includes the new arena) just lost its lead attorney, Larry Feldman, at age 51 to a heart attack. Swell guy and an excellent golfer.

    Here is an obit: http://www.newsday.c...

    (And before you start getting snarky, the purpose of this post was to give props to Larry, not to mock the Islanders or him.)[/quote]

    That’s horrible. That franchise would be better off with no luck than the luck they currently have.

    RIP Mr. Feldman.[/quote]

    indeed…he was a partner in my boss’ law firm…small world sometimes

  • Eric Romain | March 16, 2009 at 12:04 pm |

    Crosby with no visor for only one period? Why? There must be an interesting explanation here.

  • Eric Romain | March 16, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    http://sports.espn.g...

    If you believe this caption, Crosby was still visor-free in the third period.

  • mike 2 | March 16, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”318345″]One other question: can anyone read the “PS” in the Pittsburgh Pirates contract cover letter?

    Is it “No players are permitted to drive back “east“? Interesting rider if it is that.[/quote]

    As I understand it, they were required to travel with the team from spring training to their home cities – ball players driving on their own across the country was a recipe for shenanigans.

    But even more interesting in that letter – Bing Crosby was a Vice President of the Pirates??? I knew of his long association with golf but I had no idea he had an association with baseball.

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”318355″]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=90&photoId=2176427

    If you believe this caption, Crosby was still visor-free in the third period.[/quote]

    The thing is that Crosby was wearing a visor during the Penguins honouring of Ed Johnston, but had it off for the first period.

    And I can’t find any reason why.

  • Mark | March 16, 2009 at 12:29 pm |

    Request for some DIY help, looking for a website that sells sew on college patches (University of Arizona in particular). Thanks for the time!

  • SV | March 16, 2009 at 12:35 pm |

    “gypped”? really?

  • Ken | March 16, 2009 at 12:44 pm |

    re: sid The KID and the Visor

    We in DC hear, that Sid CRosbY went with out a visor was because it was fogging up every time he cried.

  • Ricko | March 16, 2009 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”318356″][quote comment=”318345″]One other question: can anyone read the “PS” in the Pittsburgh Pirates contract cover letter?

    Is it “No players are permitted to drive back “east“? Interesting rider if it is that.[/quote]

    As I understand it, they were required to travel with the team from spring training to their home cities – ball players driving on their own across the country was a recipe for shenanigans.

    But even more interesting in that letter – Bing Crosby was a Vice President of the Pirates??? I knew of his long association with golf but I had no idea he had an association with baseball.[/quote]

    Yup, Crosby owned an interest in the Pirates for quite some time. Bob Hope was an owner of the Indians for a while, too.
    http://vault.sportsi...
    And Danny Kaye was a minority owner in the original group that owned the Mariners.

    I don’t remember who, but several “stars” were part of the PCL Hollywood Stars ownership, too.

    —Ricko

  • Mark in Shiga | March 16, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”318346″]The original numbers on Yankee uniforms referred to the place in the batting order.

    I recall after WW2 that the Reds and the Giants used low (usually single) numbers for manager, coaches and catchers, 11-19 for infielders, 20-29 for outfielders, and higher numbers for pitchers.[/quote]

    The Cubs used just about the same system for many years, and still do (to some extent) today. One big exception is Ryne Sandberg, who wore #23 at second base for years, but he was considered for center field (a “20s” number) when the Cubs first acquired him in 1982.

    Having grown up with it, I find it natural, but do like to see some exceptions once in a while. And of course no numbers over 50, ever.

    The 1937 Reds had numbers from about 1-38, and then the ’38 team had a bunch of monstrosities ranging from the upper 30s into the 60s. I wonder if they didn’t just order up 65 or so uniform sets before the ’38 season to save money while leaving room for new players. Whatever their rationale was, it looks pretty ugly.

    The Japanese leagues have some unwritten rules about jersey numbers too. 1 through 9 are desired by the regulars who play those positions (fielding positions, not batting order spots), probably because it’s the rule in high school tournaments, and 11 through 20 are almost invariably pitchers. There are 70 spots on the roster including the minor league squad (where numbers don’t overlap with the varsity), so players get 0-69 and then managers and coaches get 70-99. Staffers (BP pitchers, bullpen catchers, conditioning instructors, interpreters, whoever) and developmental players (a kind of “taxi squad”) get stuck with 107 or 125 or 126 or something even more massive. It presumably tires them out.

  • Mark in Shiga | March 16, 2009 at 1:23 pm |

    My last post had its last link cut off: player exhausted by weight of jersey number.

  • JR Boucicaut | March 16, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”318357″][quote comment=”318355″]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=90&photoId=2176427

    If you believe this caption, Crosby was still visor-free in the third period.[/quote]

    The thing is that Crosby was wearing a visor during the Penguins honouring of Ed Johnston, but had it off for the first period.

    And I can’t find any reason why.[/quote]

    The story that I am hearing is that him and Marc Savard were yapping at each other in the beginning of the game and agreed on fighting. Crosby handed his helmet to the equipment manager, who removed the visor, but the fight never materialized, and the visor was reattached for the second period.

  • Jeff H. | March 16, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    With regards to Raptors’ green unis…

    Apparently the boys were none-too-thrilled that, in addition to the emerald hue, their togs featured prominent shamrocks… creating a distinctly Boston Celtic vibe. No matter how St. Patrick’s appropriate, the Celts “own” the green-shamrock combo in the mind of NBAers. (And likely, most NBA fans.)

    Full details here.

  • Richard Bruns | March 16, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    Regarding Andrei Arshavin wearing different boots in the first and second halves for Arsenal on Saturday… he got a gash on his ankle near the end of the first half that required eight stitches at halftime. He continued on with the stitches to play the entire game, I’m wondering if the change of boots was due to the stitches.

  • Juan Grande | March 16, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”318347″]if alabama state had NOB this guy would go shoulder to shoulder http://www.bamastate...

    Chief’s been mentioned here quite a few times. It is a killer last name.

  • Jordan Sogn | March 16, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    That’s a bummer to hear about Distant Replays…I hope they come out on the positive side. They’re always helpful in terms of what to expect from their products (which is always key when ordering on-line).

  • Ricko | March 16, 2009 at 2:08 pm |

    re: Hollywood Stars ownership…
    he Hollywood Stars played professional baseball at Gilmore Field, near the Farmers Market in the Fairfax District of Los Angeles. The team was owned by ‘Brown Derby’ restaurant owner Robert H. Cobb and movie stars Gary Cooper, Bing Crosby, Gene Autry, William Powell, George Raft, Barbara Stanwyk, Robert Taylor, George Burns, Gracie Allen, Harry Warner, and even Cecil B. DeMille.
    http://www.sportshol...

    —Ricko

  • UmpLou | March 16, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”318356″][quote comment=”318345″]One other question: can anyone read the “PS” in the Pittsburgh Pirates contract cover letter?

    Is it “No players are permitted to drive back “east“? Interesting rider if it is that.[/quote]

    As I understand it, they were required to travel with the team from spring training to their home cities – ball players driving on their own across the country was a recipe for shenanigans.

    But even more interesting in that letter – Bing Crosby was a Vice President of the Pirates??? I knew of his long association with golf but I had no idea he had an association with baseball.[/quote]

    Oh yes, and Bob Hope owned a piece of the Indians fo a while there – which is why, in the I LOVE LUCY episode that he appears in (“Lucy Meets Bob Hope”), part of the episode takes place in the Indians locker room, NOT the home Yankees.

    Crosby’s involement with the Pirates was a fairly big joke in Hollywood, as he also was a not-very-successful owner of race horses – there are more than a couple Looney Tunes where this was alluded to – so there were a few jokes such as one of his horses being slower than Ralph Kiner, for instance

    Another part owner of the Pirates was comedian Joe E. Brown – in fact Brown’s kid ended up working in the Pirate front office for a long time.

  • Kek | March 16, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”318349″][quote comment=”318340″][quote comment=”318323″][quote comment=”318320″]
    i think he’s more excited about *bad* things happening to the isles than anything relating to kc; if they were possibly moving to podunk, he’d be happy[/quote]

    You know what I love about people wanting to see the Islanders move to Kansas City?

    They’re still going to stink as a team. The only difference is that they’ll have a bigger arena to fill up with that stink.

    And with Bettman stating on the record that moving is the very last possible option in all cases of teams struggling, I wouldn’t hold my breath if I lived in KC.[/quote]
    Bettman has all but told everyone that the NHL will do everything it can to keep the Isles in NY. Lets see, the last time he said something like that, the Pens wound up with Crosby, Malkin, and Fleury and the Caps ended up with Ovechkin and Semin.

    Why am I getting the feeling that the Isles are all but guaranteed Tavares in this year’s draft?[/quote]

    Are you insane?

    The Penguins and Capitals were the terrible teams around the 2005 missed season. Let’s review, shall we?

    In 2002, the Penguins drafted Ryan Whitney 5th overall. The Capitals drafted Semin 13th overall. The Penguins were the 5th-worst team in the NHL. Rigged? NO.

    In 2003, the Penguins drafted Marc-Andre Fleury 1st overall. They finished the season 29th out of 30 teams. They moved up one spot ahead of the Carolina Hurricanes who drafted Eric Staal. Rigged? NO.

    In 2004, the Penguins drafted Evgeni Malkin 2nd overall. The Caps drafted Alexander Ovechkin 1st overall. The Penguins finished dead last with 58 points, followed by the Capitals who finished with 59 points. Rigged? NO.

    In 2005, there was no season, so every team had a shot at Crosby. The number of balls in the lottery was determined on the previous playoff performances and first-round picks. The Penguins had three balls in the draft lottery, as did Buffalo, Columbus, and the NY Rangers. The key, though, is that EVERY TEAM had a shot at Crosby. Pittsburgh won the lottery and drafted Crosby, followed by a very good Anaheim team who drafted second and took Bobby Ryan. And just to make sure I scratch your undercarriage, BF, Carolina drafted third overall that year and took Jack Johnson. Rigged? NO.

    In 2006, Pittsburgh drafted Jordan Staal 2nd overall. Pittsburgh finished one point behind St. Louis who drafted at the #1 spot and took Erik Johnston. Pittsburgh was 29th out of 30 teams. Rigged? NO.

    I’m not sure how you figure it would be possible to rig the lottery system, but wouldn’t every cash lottery be rigged as well if you go by that thinking?[/quote]
    Teebz, come on man, you’re too bright to be taking that “Beardface Bait”

    Dude has it in for the Penguins and seems to be a hater to the nth degree. Don’t waste your time.

    And the more facts you recite, the worse it gets!!!

  • Perry | March 16, 2009 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”318346″]The original numbers on Yankee uniforms referred to the place in the batting order.

    I recall after WW2 that the Reds and the Giants used low (usually single) numbers for manager, coaches and catchers, 11-19 for infielders, 20-29 for outfielders, and higher numbers for pitchers.

    Of course, position changes messed things up (e.g. Irvin or Lockman at first for the Giants. Bobby Thomson, though he did start as 19, was switched to 23 when the Giants acquired Alvin Dark.[/quote]

    The Reds were still using that system into the late 60s. Managers, coaches, and catchers had single digits, infielders 10-19, outfielders 20-29, pitchers 30s and 40s.

  • anotherguy | March 16, 2009 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”318356″]As I understand it, they were required to travel with the team from spring training to their home cities – ball players driving on their own across the country was a recipe for shenanigans.[/quote]

    Interesting-but isn’t the famous story about how two Yankees who lived on the West Coast offered to drive a rookie to Spring Training (this would have been back in about 1936 or so) and the rookie was so quiet that he never uttered a single word all the way from San Francisco to Florida?

    :-)

    Anyway, your story is probably just as plausible as mine.

  • jon | March 16, 2009 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”318360″]re: sid The KID and the Visor

    We in DC hear, that Sid CRosbY went with out a visor was because it was fogging up every time he cried.[/quote]

    as a pens fan from d.c., I believe caps fans need to shut up with that. at least until ovechkin stops his own whining and choking in big moments…

  • S. Bennett | March 16, 2009 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”318364″][quote comment=”318357″][quote comment=”318355″]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=90&photoId=2176427

    If you believe this caption, Crosby was still visor-free in the third period.[/quote]

    The thing is that Crosby was wearing a visor during the Penguins honouring of Ed Johnston, but had it off for the first period.

    And I can’t find any reason why.[/quote]

    The story that I am hearing is that him and Marc Savard were yapping at each other in the beginning of the game and agreed on fighting. Crosby handed his helmet to the equipment manager, who removed the visor, but the fight never materialized, and the visor was reattached for the second period.[/quote]

    Occam’s Razor states the visor got scratched. It happens.

    SB

  • LarryB | March 16, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    I will have to check out the Western Pa Sports museum sometime. I am near Youngstown, Ohio.

    Seems like a very interesting museum

  • swilson160 | March 16, 2009 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”318376″][quote comment=”318364″][quote comment=”318357″][quote comment=”318355″]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=90&photoId=2176427

    If you believe this caption, Crosby was still visor-free in the third period.[/quote]

    The thing is that Crosby was wearing a visor during the Penguins honouring of Ed Johnston, but had it off for the first period.

    And I can’t find any reason why.[/quote]

    The story that I am hearing is that him and Marc Savard were yapping at each other in the beginning of the game and agreed on fighting. Crosby handed his helmet to the equipment manager, who removed the visor, but the fight never materialized, and the visor was reattached for the second period.[/quote]

    Occam’s Razor states the visor got scratched. It happens.

    SB[/quote]

    There was a solar eclipse on Mars at precisely the time the ceremony was held. At the same time, a low-pressure system developed over the inland valleys of Tajikistan. These two events catalyzed a massive energy pulse from the sun that caused our Sidney Crosby to be switched with an alternate-universe Sidney Crosby, who did not wear a visor. After the first period, the eclipse ended, the low-pressure system evaporated, and everything was returned to its rightful place.

    Or it could be what SB said. My explanation is better, though.

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”318372″]
    Teebz, come on man, you’re too bright to be taking that “Beardface Bait”

    Dude has it in for the Penguins and seems to be a hater to the nth degree. Don’t waste your time.

    And the more facts you recite, the worse it gets!!![/quote]

    I cannot stand people spewing information that is whole-heartedly wrong. He needed to be corrected so that there was no misconception for people who don’t follow hockey.

    As much as it is bait, it’s still entirely wrong to suggest that the Islanders are guaranteed Tavares. The Islanders, according to the rules of the draft lottery, could draft as low as #3 or as high as #1. But it all depends on the lottery.

    And not on Gary Bettman’s wishes whatsoever.

  • LarryB | March 16, 2009 at 3:55 pm |

    And I had not seen the Brownies column before since I am new here. I enjoyed the link to that article.

  • LarryB | March 16, 2009 at 3:58 pm |
  • JR Boucicaut | March 16, 2009 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”318376″][quote comment=”318364″][quote comment=”318357″][quote comment=”318355″]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=90&photoId=2176427

    If you believe this caption, Crosby was still visor-free in the third period.[/quote]

    The thing is that Crosby was wearing a visor during the Penguins honouring of Ed Johnston, but had it off for the first period.

    And I can’t find any reason why.[/quote]

    The story that I am hearing is that him and Marc Savard were yapping at each other in the beginning of the game and agreed on fighting. Crosby handed his helmet to the equipment manager, who removed the visor, but the fight never materialized, and the visor was reattached for the second period.[/quote]

    Occam’s Razor states the visor got scratched. It happens.

    SB[/quote]

    Apparently Bob Errey was between the benches and heard the exchange between Crosby and Savard.

    However, yeah, if the visor was scratched (I wear the same model) it wouldn’t taken an entire period to switch it out. He shouldn’t have missed a shift before the new one was installed.

  • LarryB | March 16, 2009 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”318371″][quote comment=”318356″][quote comment=”318345″]One other question: can anyone read the “PS” in the Pittsburgh Pirates contract cover letter?

    Is it “No players are permitted to drive back “east“? Interesting rider if it is that.[/quote]

    As I understand it, they were required to travel with the team from spring training to their home cities – ball players driving on their own across the country was a recipe for shenanigans.

    But even more interesting in that letter – Bing Crosby was a Vice President of the Pirates??? I knew of his long association with golf but I had no idea he had an association with baseball.[/quote]

    Oh yes, and Bob Hope owned a piece of the Indians fo a while there – which is why, in the I LOVE LUCY episode that he appears in (“Lucy Meets Bob Hope”), part of the episode takes place in the Indians locker room, NOT the home Yankees.

    Crosby’s involement with the Pirates was a fairly big joke in Hollywood, as he also was a not-very-successful owner of race horses – there are more than a couple Looney Tunes where this was alluded to – so there were a few jokes such as one of his horses being slower than Ralph Kiner, for instance

    Another part owner of the Pirates was comedian Joe E. Brown – in fact Brown’s kid ended up working in the Pirate front office for a long time.[/quote]

    Good points. I knew those facts about the Pirates and Indians. I had just seen that Lucy episode a while back with Bob Hope and Indianas uniform

  • Kek | March 16, 2009 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”318379″][quote comment=”318372″]
    Teebz, come on man, you’re too bright to be taking that “Beardface Bait”

    Dude has it in for the Penguins and seems to be a hater to the nth degree. Don’t waste your time.

    And the more facts you recite, the worse it gets!!![/quote]

    I cannot stand people spewing information that is whole-heartedly wrong. He needed to be corrected so that there was no misconception for people who don’t follow hockey.

    As much as it is bait, it’s still entirely wrong to suggest that the Islanders are guaranteed Tavares. The Islanders, according to the rules of the draft lottery, could draft as low as #3 or as high as #1. But it all depends on the lottery.

    And not on Gary Bettman’s wishes whatsoever.[/quote]
    points well taken, I’m just teasin’ you.

  • S. Bennett | March 16, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”318382″][quote comment=”318376″][quote comment=”318364″][quote comment=”318357″][quote comment=”318355″]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=90&photoId=2176427

    If you believe this caption, Crosby was still visor-free in the third period.[/quote]

    The thing is that Crosby was wearing a visor during the Penguins honouring of Ed Johnston, but had it off for the first period.

    And I can’t find any reason why.[/quote]

    The story that I am hearing is that him and Marc Savard were yapping at each other in the beginning of the game and agreed on fighting. Crosby handed his helmet to the equipment manager, who removed the visor, but the fight never materialized, and the visor was reattached for the second period.[/quote]

    Occam’s Razor states the visor got scratched. It happens.

    SB[/quote]

    Apparently Bob Errey was between the benches and heard the exchange between Crosby and Savard.

    However, yeah, if the visor was scratched (I wear the same model) it wouldn’t taken an entire period to switch it out. He shouldn’t have missed a shift before the new one was installed.[/quote]

    Considering where the Pens stand in the playoff race, can they afford to have Sid miss a shift?

  • Brendan | March 16, 2009 at 4:44 pm |

    Re: Sid and the Visor

    Mark Madden (Pittsburgh radio talk show host) is claiming that Sid had the visor on early in the game, then took it off after Marc Savard wanted to drop the gloves. According to the Madden version, Savard later backed off when Sid removed the visor.

    There are some pictures here showing Sid with the visor in a pregame ceremony for Eddie Johnston:

    http://penguins.nhl....

  • Jon | March 16, 2009 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”318386″]Re: Sid and the Visor

    Mark Madden (Pittsburgh radio talk show host) is claiming that Sid had the visor on early in the game, then took it off after Marc Savard wanted to drop the gloves. According to the Madden version, Savard later backed off when Sid removed the visor.

    There are some pictures here showing Sid with the visor in a pregame ceremony for Eddie Johnston:

    http://penguins.nhl....

    SO we’re saying Savard is a skirt?

  • LarryB | March 16, 2009 at 4:57 pm |

    Go Blue Jackets

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”318387″][quote comment=”318386″]Re: Sid and the Visor

    Mark Madden (Pittsburgh radio talk show host) is claiming that Sid had the visor on early in the game, then took it off after Marc Savard wanted to drop the gloves. According to the Madden version, Savard later backed off when Sid removed the visor.

    There are some pictures here showing Sid with the visor in a pregame ceremony for Eddie Johnston:

    http://penguins.nhl....

    SO we’re saying Savard is a skirt?[/quote]

    1) I’m thinking Madden is full of it. The amount of time it takes to remove or put on a visor is less than five minutes easily for an equipment guru.

    2) Why would Crosby remove his visor for a fight? It would be much easier just to remove the helmet completely for the 30-45 seconds than having his visor removed.

    3) I’m quite certain that both Savard and Crosby may have joked about the fight, but neither team needs their best player off the ice. Boston’s 4-5-1 record in their last 10 games is not how they want to play down the stretch. And the Penguins need to keep winning to ensure they don’t fall back in the race for spots 6-8 in the Eastern Conference.

    I’m going with the scratch theory. It seems way more plausible. Especially since it appears that the Penguins’ equipment guy didn’t have an additional visor handy.

  • Brendan | March 16, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    Madden is a huge Crosby booster, so anything he says has to be taken with a grain of salt. Just wanted to pass along that theory, along with the pics of Crosby pre game wearing the visor.

  • Bluenatic | March 16, 2009 at 5:23 pm |

    Not to rain on Nancy Westlake’s parade, but Ralph Kiner is and was right-handed.

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”318384″]
    points well taken, I’m just teasin’ you.[/quote]

    ‘Tis all good, Kek. No offence taken by me whatsoever. :o)

  • Benjamin | March 16, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    Yet another idiot yankeee fan who doesn’t know the difference between a facade and a frieze. The facacde goes all the way around the stadium…really? It doesn’t stop halfway around and show directly into the stadium? How crazy is that?!?

  • Brendan | March 16, 2009 at 5:42 pm |

    re: Billy Conn

    He was a local hero, and his loss to Joe Louis is one of the most heartbreaking moments in Pittsburgh sports history.

    Not sure why he had the NY on his trunks, although he did fight a bunch of times in New York and was very popular there, especially among the city’s Irish population.

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”318393″]Yet another idiot yankeee fan who doesn’t know the difference between a facade and a frieze. The facacde goes all the way around the stadium…really? It doesn’t stop halfway around and show directly into the stadium? How crazy is that?!?[/quote]

    Um… a facade is the exterior facing of any building, whereas a frieze would be the section of architecture that lies upon the columns in a building. Usually a frieze has some sort of art or decoration on it as well. Greek and Roman architecture were well-known for the use of frieze decoration.

    The frieze is always part of the facade, I thought.

    No?

  • Drew | March 16, 2009 at 5:49 pm |

    Sorry if already posted, but Auburn has new baseball uniforms this season. The home unis are AWESOME and a lot of the guys have taken to wearing stirrups with them http://auburntigers....

    the orange away uniforms SUCK HUGE D***
    http://auburntigers....

  • LI Phil | March 16, 2009 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”318396″]Sorry if already posted, but Auburn has new baseball uniforms this season. The home unis are AWESOME and a lot of the guys have taken to wearing stirrups with them http://auburntigers....

    the orange away uniforms SUCK HUGE D***
    http://auburntigers....

    jeebus, just when i was about to give UA (underarmor, not auburn) props for designing a nice uni (despite the fact that most of the guys appear to be wearing their stirrups backwards), then i look at the aways…and it’s all ruined

    so much promise on those gorgeous homes…so much disappointment on the roadies

  • Jeff P | March 16, 2009 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”318379″][quote comment=”318372″]
    Teebz, come on man, you’re too bright to be taking that “Beardface Bait”

    Dude has it in for the Penguins and seems to be a hater to the nth degree. Don’t waste your time.

    And the more facts you recite, the worse it gets!!![/quote]

    I cannot stand people spewing information that is whole-heartedly wrong. He needed to be corrected so that there was no misconception for people who don’t follow hockey.

    As much as it is bait, it’s still entirely wrong to suggest that the Islanders are guaranteed Tavares. The Islanders, according to the rules of the draft lottery, could draft as low as #3 or as high as #1. But it all depends on the lottery.

    And not on Gary Bettman’s wishes whatsoever.[/quote]
    Actually, you can only drop one slot. So if they don’t keep the first overall pick, they get #2. If they finish the season last (pretty sure they will) they’re guaranteed Taveres or Hedman.

    A team can only move up 5 and down only one. So if a team 6-14 wins the lottery, they move up 5 and the top pick remains with the suckiest team in the league.

  • LI Phil | March 16, 2009 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”318398″][quote comment=”318379″][quote comment=”318372″]
    Teebz, come on man, you’re too bright to be taking that “Beardface Bait”

    Dude has it in for the Penguins and seems to be a hater to the nth degree. Don’t waste your time.

    And the more facts you recite, the worse it gets!!![/quote]

    I cannot stand people spewing information that is whole-heartedly wrong. He needed to be corrected so that there was no misconception for people who don’t follow hockey.

    As much as it is bait, it’s still entirely wrong to suggest that the Islanders are guaranteed Tavares. The Islanders, according to the rules of the draft lottery, could draft as low as #3 or as high as #1. But it all depends on the lottery.

    And not on Gary Bettman’s wishes whatsoever.[/quote]
    Actually, you can only drop one slot. So if they don’t keep the first overall pick, they get #2. If they finish the season last (pretty sure they will) they’re guaranteed Taveres or Hedman.

    A team can only move up 5 and down only one. So if a team 6-14 wins the lottery, they move up 5 and the top pick remains with the suckiest team in the league.[/quote]

    actually it’s only four slots up and no more than one down:

    [quote]The lottery (the NHL refers to it as the Draft Drawing) involves the picks from clubs that don’t make the current season’s Stanley Cup Playoffs, or clubs that acquired the first-round picks of those non-playoff clubs. The lottery result does not affect the draft order for the remainder of the first round and rounds two through seven.

    The club selected in the lottery may not move up more than four positions in the draft order. Thus the only clubs with the opportunity to receive the 1st overall selection are the five clubs with the lowest regular-season point totals (or clubs that acquired those clubs’ first-round drafting positions). No club can move down more than one position as a result of the lottery. Under the weighted lottery system, the club with the fewest regular-season points will have the greatest chance (25%) of winning the lottery and will pick no lower than second at the Entry Draft.[/quote]

    info taken from here

  • Jeremy Schuchert | March 16, 2009 at 6:50 pm |

    http://shop.godanriv...

    I believe the Pops patch was in honor of Mel Roberts.

  • Dwayne | March 16, 2009 at 7:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”318357″][quote comment=”318355″]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=90&photoId=2176427

    If you believe this caption, Crosby was still visor-free in the third period.[/quote]

    The thing is that Crosby was wearing a visor during the Penguins honoring of Ed Johnston, but had it off for the first period.
    [/quote]

    That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard for honoring someone. But, it is Crosby after all.

  • odessasteps magazine | March 16, 2009 at 7:18 pm |

    People in Toronto seem to think it’s destiny that Tavares will end up with the Leafs and be the man who resurrects the franchise.

  • Glenn | March 16, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    Pirates and Rays playing tonight on MLB Network, and apparently the Pirates are getting their Irish out a day early with the green caps. This would all be fine, I guess, if they would have bothered to get fitted caps. The adjustables with the velcro straps just looks very, ummm….”rec league”?

    paul maholm

    jack wilson

    They’re also sporting green bases, which just look way wrong.

  • Zurk | March 16, 2009 at 8:07 pm |

    Interesting NOB on Puerto Rico player Ian Snell. He has Davila.Snell on the back. Hope it hasn’t been brought up before…

  • peter | March 16, 2009 at 8:07 pm |

    Pirates look stupid with the Green – velcro St. Patrick Day’s hats….and stupid green bases too…

    (sorry for lack of screen grab)

  • peter | March 16, 2009 at 8:19 pm |

    speaking of the Pirates…has anyone seen a film called Chasing 3000? I am interested in a uni-sense and a “where the hell is this film”? curiosity.

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”318399″]
    actually it’s only four slots up and no more than one down:

    [quote]The lottery (the NHL refers to it as the Draft Drawing) involves the picks from clubs that don’t make the current season’s Stanley Cup Playoffs, or clubs that acquired the first-round picks of those non-playoff clubs. The lottery result does not affect the draft order for the remainder of the first round and rounds two through seven.

    The club selected in the lottery may not move up more than four positions in the draft order. Thus the only clubs with the opportunity to receive the 1st overall selection are the five clubs with the lowest regular-season point totals (or clubs that acquired those clubs’ first-round drafting positions). No club can move down more than one position as a result of the lottery. Under the weighted lottery system, the club with the fewest regular-season points will have the greatest chance (25%) of winning the lottery and will pick no lower than second at the Entry Draft.[/quote]

    info taken from here[/quote]

    I’ll add to this in that no one should assume that the Islanders are going to finish last.

    They are four points behind the Lightning, and have been a ridiculous 6-2-2 in their last 10. Again, they could draft as low as #3 (depending on where they finish).

    I should have qualified that earlier. My bad!

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 8:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”318402″]People in Toronto seem to think it’s destiny that Tavares will end up with the Leafs and be the man who resurrects the franchise.[/quote]

    There are seven teams between Toronto and last place. The highest place they will draft is fourth overall.

    If Tavares is still there at #4, there are three teams in front of Toronto that are joining the AHL.

  • Smail | March 16, 2009 at 9:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”318404″]Interesting NOB on Puerto Rico player Ian Snell. He has Davila.Snell on the back. Hope it hasn’t been brought up before…[/quote]

    And it’s covering up quite a bit of the red raglan sleeves too. Looks way weird.

  • =bg= | March 16, 2009 at 9:30 pm |

    Not a hockey guy tho I’m trying to be- got those Sharkies, y’know. But- even not being a hockey fan, that Thrashers logo is……what’s the word for it?

    Junk. Yeah, that’s it. Junk.

  • LI Phil | March 16, 2009 at 9:33 pm |

    [quote]I’ll add to this in that no one should assume that the Islanders are going to finish last.[/quote]

    would that be a good thing or a bad thing?

  • Teebz | March 16, 2009 at 11:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”318411″][quote]I’ll add to this in that no one should assume that the Islanders are going to finish last.[/quote]

    would that be a good thing or a bad thing?[/quote]

    Good. There haven’t been too many teams who finished dead last who drafted in the #1 spot.

    But with the Isles, every advantage would help. ;o)

  • ken | March 16, 2009 at 11:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”318375″][quote comment=”318360″]re: sid The KID and the Visor

    We in DC hear, that Sid CRosbY went with out a visor was because it was fogging up every time he cried.[/quote]

    as a pens fan from d.c., I believe caps fans need to shut up with that. at least until ovechkin stops his own whining and choking in big moments…[/quote]

    truth hurts…don’t Pen boy….Sid ain’t even the best guy on the team… Please give an example of OV’s choke ?

  • Teebz | March 17, 2009 at 12:02 am |

    [quote comment=”318413″][quote comment=”318375″][quote comment=”318360″]re: sid The KID and the Visor

    We in DC hear, that Sid CRosbY went with out a visor was because it was fogging up every time he cried.[/quote]

    as a pens fan from d.c., I believe caps fans need to shut up with that. at least until ovechkin stops his own whining and choking in big moments…[/quote]

    truth hurts…don’t Pen boy….Sid ain’t even the best guy on the team… Please give an example of OV’s choke ?[/quote]

    Sure. Tonight. Versus Atlanta. No points against the 29th best team. And a 5-1 loss.

  • jon | March 17, 2009 at 12:35 am |

    [quote comment=”318413″][quote comment=”318375″][quote comment=”318360″]re: sid The KID and the Visor

    We in DC hear, that Sid CRosbY went with out a visor was because it was fogging up every time he cried.[/quote]

    as a pens fan from d.c., I believe caps fans need to shut up with that. at least until ovechkin stops his own whining and choking in big moments…[/quote]

    truth hurts…don’t Pen boy….Sid ain’t even the best guy on the team… Please give an example of OV’s choke ?[/quote]

    i woulda said the shootout in d.c. that crosby won and ovie blew, but tonight works too haha. thanks teebz!

  • TTG | March 17, 2009 at 4:26 am |

    According to this article, “Felix Pie left his jersey in Fort Lauderdale and had to wear No. 97”

  • scott | March 17, 2009 at 7:07 am |

    [quote comment=”318405″]Pirates look stupid with the Green – velcro St. Patrick Day’s hats….and stupid green bases too…

    (sorry for lack of screen grab)[/quote]

    I wonder how many of the MLB teams wearing green caps will go with adjustable caps? If the Pirates are alone, that’s embarrassing just for them. But what if other teams do the same thing?

  • Ken | March 17, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    OV took 10 shots tonight, plus 3 blocked, and about another 5 wide of the net..and we had nobody infront of the net.
    One of our problem is we play down to the opponent. It wasn’t OV fault. Same with the Pen’s game…we played down to a team that is behind us. [Plus Flury is a better goalie then THREEorMore]

  • DaveMac | March 17, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    With all the Milwaukee Braves talk going around lately, I want to add something into the mix.

    On May 14, 2004 I went to a Brewers game at Miller Park agasint the Atlanta Braves. It was a special “Turn Back the Clock Night” with the theme being “Braves vs. Braves.” The Brewers wore the home white Milwaukee Braves jerseys while Atlanta wore their standard gray road uniforms. So both teams were wearing Braves jerseys. Old Milwaukee Braves legends like Hank Aaron were in attendance and the whole stadium pretended that the Milwaukee Braves were the home team. The PA announcer introduced the team “and now your Milwaukee Braves” and for the first few innings of the game the scoreboard read “Braves” for both teams. The announcer would say “Now batting for the Braves, Bill Hall.”

    At the time, most Milwaukee fans were sick of the Brewers after over a decade of embarrassing baseball and losing seasons. Not to mention 22 years without a playoff birth. 2002 had been the worst season in franchise history and Miller Park had done little to make the Brewers an immediate contender (as promised). So we as fans were more than happy to accept the illusion that the Braves were our team again..a team with a successful tradition. It was a lot of fun. Thankfully the Brewers have put together a good, fun team in recent years, and fan pride in the Brew Crew has been revivied. But for one night during a dark era, this game was a welcome distraction.

    Does anyone have any pictures from this game? I believe they may have done this promotion another time as well. If you have more info or photos of the game, I would be very interested. Let me know if you have any questions/comments.

  • Jon | March 17, 2009 at 2:50 pm |

    I’m just going to say it: The Seattle Pilots uniforms are the most fascinating in all of sports. Every aspect of the Pilots’ uniforms, from the striped stirrups to the scrambled eggs on the caps, from the different suppliers for home and away sets to the captain stripes on the arms of the jerseys, and from the light blue hue of the road ensemble to the patch design on the front (!) of the jerseys (placed differently from home to road), these uniforms ought to be named as the “Official Uniforms of Uni Watch” for exhibiting all aspects of uniform design and study that this group cares about and for capturing the very essence of why this all matters to us.

  • Doug Sears Jr. | March 19, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    Crosby challenged Marc Savard to a fight. Savard said “later.” Crosby had a trainer pop off his visor and waited to fight savard but they never did. Crosby returned in the second with his visor on again.