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Uni Watch Road Trip Report: Pittsburgh

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If there’s one thing I learned about Pittsburgh during my recent visit, it’s this: The city is nuts about fish. There are fish mosaics in the sidewalk, giant fish sculptures in the Children’s Museum parking lot, and just about all the restaurants in town were touting their fish sandwiches — including burger joints, Arby’s, and Dairy Queens! Okay, so I was in town for the first Friday of Lent (a barbecue stand had a sign that read, “Eat our fish or go to hell!”), but several people told me that the fish sandwich thing is a year-’round obsession, which was something I hadn’t been aware of. Suddenly this movie title resonates in a whole new way.

Kirsten and I did enjoy a remarkably good fish sandwich at a VFW hall near our motel on Friday night, but I’ll get to our non-Uni Watch activities later. For now let’s talk about the Uni Watch party at Max’s, which was one of the best ever — epic turnout, great people, and the only bar I’ve ever seen with a cigarette machine in the men’s room. Here’s a rogue’s gallery of attendees (with apologies to anyone I may have missed or whose name I may have misspelled):

• The party provided a rare opportunity for a Uni Watch Pennsylvania summit meeting, as Morris Levin (who lives in Philly but was in the ’Burgh for work-related reasons) and Doug Keklak were both on hand. So was Morris’s daughter, Pardes, who was dressed for the occasion. That’s Morris’s wife, Rachel, on the left.

• As for Kek, he made sure to point out his script “Pitt,” a logo he’d sorely like to see back in circulation. He also said he considered putting a strip of blue masking tape over his Adidas logo, just for me, but eventually decided not to bother. Hey, it’s the thought that counts, Dougie!

• These are my friends Jennifer Baron and Greg Langel, who are the people behind this fantastic web site and its companion book (and who showed us all of their favorite spots around town on Saturday). Jen brought along her youth-league softball shirt, complete with an unfortunate sponsorship and one remaining letter from her NOB.

• Remember Ryan Connelly and his DIY Pittsburgh bus line jersey? In that entry he wrote, “I’m also working on a home/dark verison, which I know you’ll love (I found a thermal at the Gap with lots of stripes!), but I haven’t started it yet.” He finished that design in time to wear it to Max’s. Check out his great work on the crest, shoulder patch, and numbers. I was way impressed.

• The person on the right in this shot is Jerry Wolper, looking sharp in his 1960s Hershey Bears jersey, which accessorized nicely with his Uni Watch membership card. Here’s a closer look at the front and back.

• The guy standing next to Jerry is Chris Weber. Although he dressed in civvies, Chris brought the coolest show-and-tell of the whole party: a series of hand-rendered USFL score sheets from when he was a kid. Check out the detailing on the logos and facemasks — primo. He even added a little pair of aces next to the Gamblers’ team name. And of course he signed his work. Great, great stuff.

On the left we have Phil Walcic, who was wearing a Tommy Salo jersey. The guy in the Buccos vest is George Fetkovich, who not only brought along his membership card but got bonus points for having the card match what he was wearing.

• Nicest jersey of the party was this Portland Beavers throwback worn by Denis Repp. Gotta love that chain-stitching.

Sean Fox had the most conceptually satisfying outfit of the day: He dressed as a Three Rivers Stadium usher, complete with team logos on one sleeve and “Staff” designation on the other. He said he got the shirt on eBay.

• Here we have the Kowalski brothers. That’s Matt on the left, wearing an ’82 Marino jersey, and Nick on the right, in a 2005 Roethlisberger Pro Bowl model — a rare design, since Big Ben didn’t actually make the Pro Bowl that season.

• No jersey for Jeff Banks, which takes a certain amount of guts at a UW gathering.

• But it takes even more guts to show up in a red Pirates vest, as Cory Nestico did. Fortunately, his jersey’s loathsomeness was counterbalanced by the splendor of Greg DiPietro‘s Pens sweater (which truly is a sweater — look at that knit fabric!). Here’s how they looked from the back.

• When Kirsten and I arrived at Max’s, the first people to greet us were Jesse Wiedaw and Becky Myers. (Becky, incidentally, was one of two people I saw over the weekend wearing the classic Tekulve design from Watch Your Back.)

• The Steelers have the Terrible Towel, and the Bills have — or, rather, had, very briefly — the Whammy Weenie. And Jason Bernard has the coolest T-shirt ever. That’s his galpal, the appropriately named Jenny Sweet, on his arm.

Wayne Jones wore a Yale hockey jersey (and took a bunch of pics, which you can see here). Here he is chatting with Kirsten, who wore her old Harvard Graduate School of Design tee (it’s hard to see, but the skull’s teeth spell out “GSD”), because “it’s like a Pirates logo, sort of.”

• That’s Brent Wilson on the left and Steve Skurski standing next to him. Steve came all the way from Buffalo for the UW event, so he wins long-haul bragging rights for this party.

• Here’s Dan Kenaan in a Pittsburgh Rebels throwback (that’s from the Federal League, boys and girls). Dig the hefty sleeve patch. Someone else was wearing a slightly more knockoff-ish version of this same design, but he left before I could get a photo.

Dave Uhring wore this weird Pitt design that was sort of like a Marino jersey, only for baseball.

• As you may have noticed in some of the earlier pics, I broke my longstanding “Dress like a normal person” policy for UW gatherings and wore a jersey this time around. Here’s why: A few weeks back I ran that cycling book review, which included lots of photos of wool cycling jerseys. That led several readers to point me toward web sites that sell wool cycling throwbacks, and I was unable to resist this one (I mean, shit, look at that chain-stitching). Since I’m still in the “kid with a new toy” phase with this particular garment, and since I acquired it as a direct result of tips from UW readers, I decided to wear it to the shindig.

We’d already gotten a pretty good taste of Pittsburgh in the three days prior to the party. Among other things, we visited the Andy (where we had fun in the Cloud Room and saw the Vader Project, among other things) and the Frick, rode the Duquesne Incline (it puts the “fun” in “funicular”!), had a fine breakfast at the Gab & Eat and another at the Blue Flame, saw a rock show (Emily Rodgers, Southeast Engine, and Lohio, at the Club Café), ate dogs and fries at the O (can someone please explain why they even bother to offer salads?), learned that Vincent’s Pizza Park wraps its pizzas in big sheets of paper instead of putting them in pizza boxes, saw plenty of cool signage, visited the National Aviary (the lens was fogging up cuz we were in the “tropical area”), and got lost in the mind-blowing Jerry’s Records (where I bought this for Kek, to repay a gift he’d sent to me a while back).

We also had a really good time at the Heinz History center, which includes the Western Pennsylvania Sports Museum. I took a lot of pics there and will have a separate report on that sometime in the next week or so.

But the best part of our trip, at least for me, was when Jen and Greg took us to Braddock, a town on the city’s eastern outskirts that’s more than a little bit down on its luck. Had a round of beers at one of the local watering holes and took lots of photos — some very sad, some inspiring. I’ve put about 30 of them here.

Not bad for a four-day excursion. But I’m still kinda processing the thing about all the fish.

(Big thanks to Kirsten, Jennifer, Kek, Wayne J., and Ryan C. for the use of their photos. Thanks also to the several readers who generously presented me with gifts, and to everyone else who made this such a great time. You’re all aces.)

Raffle Reminder: I’m currently raffling off a free soccer jersey from SoccerPro.com. For details, look here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The WBC is shaping up as a major logo- and ad-fest. In addition to the Canadian ad patch noted yesterday, the Japanese have a huge cluster of ad and logo decals on their batting helmets, the Dominicans have a sleeve-patch ad, and check out the size of the ad patch on Mexico’s sleeve. I’ll see if I can get a complete rundown of all of these. … Major prototype find by Ken Levin (and I hope Joe Hilseberg is sitting down for this one): “A pal of mine shared photos of a very unusual salesman’s sample/prototype Orioles away jersey from 1996. It’s different to say the least: orange placket and sleeve piping, a sleeve patch of the Bird making a jumping catch, and the misshapen ‘Orioles’ script that adorned their jerseys for a season or two in the mid-’90s. Note the abrupt angle change and very long connection between ‘Ori’ and ‘oles’ that straightening out the placket wouldn’t even fix, and the fact that the second ‘o’ looks like it would topple over if the ‘l’ wasn’t there to support it!” Anyone else love that sleeve patch as much as I do? … Speaking of the Orioles, there are some terrific candid shots of the 1979 team in this blog post (with thanks to Bob Andrews). … ¡Ay caramba! … The ever-observant Rev. Nørb checks in with this NOB report: “I don’t know what the record is for the most instances of the same letter in someone’s NOB, but the Green Bay Gamblers USHL hockey team has a player whose surname is Ceccacce — five of a kind!” … Awesome cycling logo here (with thanks to Sean Clancy). … Thomas Vanek will be wearing this faceguard to protect his broken jaw. “I’m even more interested in the fact that he’s shown drinking out of a water bottle labeled ’26,’ his uni number,” writes David Abbatoy Jr. “I’ve played hockey for 25 years, including college hockey, and I’ve never seen anyone have their own specially-designated water bottle.” Anyone know more about this? … I knew that the A’s wore nickname NOBs back around 1971, but I didn’t know the nicknames included quote marks. That screen grab comes from this superb video, which also includes shots of Sal Bando wearing cut-off windbreaker sleeves under his vest jersey and Ray Fosse wearing a mask whose cross-straps look to be a bit more toward the back of the head than usual (with thanks to Roger Faso). … Let’s take a trip to Gerry Cosby’s. The undeniable highlight: this awesome 1935 Wembley Lions hockey jersey (here’s the rear view). … Here’s a real oldie: a 1908 Sears baseball uniform catalog. I already own a very similar edition from 1911, so I’m not gonna bid on this, but one of you people should grab it. … Other uni and equipment catalogs currently on the market: 1958 Wilson, 1957 Worthington, 1916 Reach, 1974 Spalding, and 1964 Adirondack (beeYOOteeful!). And this isn’t exactly a catalog, but it’s related and hilarious. … Yao Ming wore his shooting shirt backwards last night (courtesy of Brett Crane). … It’s amazing I get anything done, what with the impossibly cute distraction usually found on my desk. She held that pose for about 20 mins. yesterday afternoon. … Major news in the auction world, as a huge stash of unopened 1930s trading cards and related trinkets, including some amazing baseball-themed stuff, has been discovered (big thanks to David Brown). … WBC note from Willet Hossfeld, who writes: “I was at the Dominican Republic vs. Marlins warm-up game Tuesday, and two recent additions to the Dominican team (both of whom are also members of the Marlins) had no names or numbers on their backs. The first is Miguel Fermin; the other, I believe was Manny De Aza, who is not listed on either roster, but I saw him play for the Marlins two days earlier against the Cardinals. Unfortunately no pictures.” … Reprinted from last night’s comments: USFL FNOB alert. … Eee-yikes! Those are the new Kutztown cycling uniforms (thanks, I think, Phil). … Also from Phil: New logo for Jack in the Box, and the recession doesn’t seem to be hurting Adidas.

 

118 comments to Uni Watch Road Trip Report: Pittsburgh

  • Scoles | March 5, 2009 at 8:16 am |

    I can’t speak for the city of pittsburgh’s love of fish but the fast food restaurants are hawking fish because of lent.

  • Scoles | March 5, 2009 at 8:19 am |

    crap…i cut my own comment off…anyway like i said the fast food restaurants sell fish at lent but I am pretty sure the fish on the street are one of those city wide art projects like the cows in chicago or the guitars in cleveland.

  • Colin Emms | March 5, 2009 at 8:41 am |

    NHL teams have been using individual water bottles since at least the mid-80s to try and prevent players from passing the flu and colds to each other. I remember my midget hockey team doing it in the around 1989-90 and I know we copied it from the NHL.

  • Bernard | March 5, 2009 at 8:54 am |

    [quote comment=”317147″]crap…i cut my own comment off…anyway like i said the fast food restaurants sell fish at lent but I am pretty sure the fish on the street are one of those city wide art projects like the cows in chicago or the guitars in cleveland.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure the fish in the sidewalk was advertising/decoration for the now-closed Cafe ALlegro, across the street from Club Cafe:

    http://www.eventecti...

    Pittsburgh’s city-wide art project was the dinosaurs:

    http://farm3.static....

  • Ricko | March 5, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    Sure wish the throwback people would get those Marino jerseys correct. Panthers never worn Navy during Marino’s years. Never. Was Royal the entire time. In some old photo from domed stadia the numbers on the white mesh jerseys of the time look Navy, but it’s an illusion due the indoor lighting.

    Royal and light gold all the time for Marino at Pitt (except for the sorta hint of mustard in the helmets, of course).

    You could look it up.

    —Ricko

  • satoshi | March 5, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    Thomas Vanek will be wearing this faceguard to protect his broken jaw. “I’m even more interested in the fact that he’s shown drinking out of a water bottle labeled ‘26,’ his uni number,” writes David Abbatoy Jr. “I’ve played hockey for 25 years, including college hockey, and I’ve never seen anyone have their own specially-designated water bottle.” Anyone know more about this?

    if you look at the picture he’s using a tube straw thing on the water bottle–probably why it’s labeled i’m guessing (since most people tend to just squirt it into their mouthes; with vanek it would probably hit his face mask and the water will be splattered all over the place…)

  • Eric Romain | March 5, 2009 at 9:12 am |

    I find it interesting that Vanek is wearing a visor and a chin piece, instead of a full face mask http://www.oceanhock...

  • Namhob | March 5, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment=”317147″]crap…i cut my own comment off…anyway like i said the fast food restaurants sell fish at lent but I am pretty sure the fish on the street are one of those city wide art projects like the cows in chicago or the guitars in cleveland.[/quote]
    Don’t forget the pigs in Cincinnati and the horses in Louisville.

  • Joe Hilseberg | March 5, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    I really don’t know what to think of that O’s jersey???? A new sample from 96 doesn’t make sense to me since 95 was a redesign year for them? And strange that I never saw it before because I was working on their jerseys in 96.

    I do like that patch though! Your rarely see a logo playing defense. The team at that time was very anti-cartoon bird. It was tough to find anywhere…no hats, t’s or anything. One of the great things to come out of them being bad is it forced them to embrace the old logos to reconnect with fans

  • Dan | March 5, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    I’m with you Paul & Joe. I love that bird patch on the O’s jersey.

    Can’t say I’m digging the re-design on the Jack in the Box logo, though.

  • Paul Lukas | March 5, 2009 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?

  • cheechoo | March 5, 2009 at 9:33 am |

    Paul, a UniWatch Party at the Swannie House in Buffalo would be right up your alley.

  • =bg= | March 5, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    All I know is..no more #81 jerseys on sale in Big D.
    Finally, Jerry grew some balls.

    How bout ‘dem Cowboys.

    (The downside: he’ll go straight to the Rayduhz which means I will hear about him 24/7.)

  • cheechoo | March 5, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]

    Reaching, but the old Mighty Ducks had a shoulder patch depicting a duck wearing a goalie mask (teal/purple days).

  • Ricko | March 5, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”317154″]I really don’t know what to think of that O’s jersey???? A new sample from 96 doesn’t make sense to me since 95 was a redesign year for them? And strange that I never saw it before because I was working on their jerseys in 96.

    I do like that patch though! Your rarely see a logo playing defense. The team at that time was very anti-cartoon bird. It was tough to find anywhere…no hats, t’s or anything. One of the great things to come out of them being bad is it forced them to embrace the old logos to reconnect with fans[/quote]

    And a southpaw playing defense, at that.

  • Joe Hilseberg | March 5, 2009 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]

    I found a few, but nothing in the modern era…

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

  • fight | March 5, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]
    I have this Mr. Red bookmarked on my computer: http://www.crosley-f...

  • Johnny O | March 5, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    I posted this last night, but it was kind of late.

    It was announced on the Madison evening news yesterday that the Wisconsin Badgers Men’s hockey team will play the Michigan Wolverines on February 6, 2010 at Camp Randall Stadium! Outdoor hockey is coming back to Wisconsin! (The Badgers and Buckeyes played at Lambeau Field a few years back in the Frozen Tundra Hockey Classic)
    Here is an article from a few days ago about this. It was announced that Michigan has accepted the offer last night.
    http://www.mlive.com...

    Also…where do you think the Badger football team got their inspiration for their “Spring Ball” logo?
    http://www.uwbadgers...

  • fight | March 5, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”317162″][quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]
    I have this Mr. Red bookmarked on my computer: http://www.crosley-f...

    I hate quoting my own post, but http://www.crosley-f... has quite a few of Mr. Redlegs playing defense if you scroll all the way through the page

  • Paul Lukas | March 5, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”317162″][quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]
    I have this Mr. Red bookmarked on my computer: http://www.crosley-f...

    That’s Mr. RedLEGS, not Mr. Red.

    One thing I love about Mr. Redlegs is that he’s always depicted with one of his collar points sticking up:
    http://www.crosley-f...
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    http://b7.ac-images....

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    Well, almost always:
    http://blogs.answers...

  • Kurt | March 5, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    Haven’t read in a few days – fascinating stuff. I’ve seen old NFL Films footage – they used to paint the end zones with the visiting teams logos and colors for regular season games at Tulane Stadium and Kezar Stadium, and I also saw a 1971 ‘NFL Game of the Week’ where the visiting Chiefs were painted in one end zone at Shea Stadium.

    I also remember the visiting team names appeared in the end zones (but with no paint job or anything) at Lambeau Field and County Stadium. The visiting team goalposts (it was always the left one on television) I remember at Texas Stadium until the early 1990’s.

    I took the MUNI out to Kezar while visiting SF early in 1987, it was still standing!! You could look through the gates and even see the field and the old concession stands. They finally had to tear down the structure after the 1989 earthquake. Here is the current downsized renovated version.

    And my personal favorite early AFL clip, 1961, somebody was playing in Boston and trying to score on final play of the game – pass is headed to the receiver in the back of the end zone for winning touchdown…until a fan in a trench-coat jumps in front of the receiver and bats the ball away!!! At least he didn’t pull a Bartman.

  • Mike Engle | March 5, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”317151″]

    Thomas Vanek will be wearing this faceguard to protect his broken jaw. “I’m even more interested in the fact that he’s shown drinking out of a water bottle labeled ‘26,’ his uni number,” writes David Abbatoy Jr. “I’ve played hockey for 25 years, including college hockey, and I’ve never seen anyone have their own specially-designated water bottle.” Anyone know more about this?

    if you look at the picture he’s using a tube straw thing on the water bottle–probably why it’s labeled i’m guessing (since most people tend to just squirt it into their mouthes; with vanek it would probably hit his face mask and the water will be splattered all over the place…)[/quote]
    Jean-Sebastien Giguere has a similar setup with a straw. It addresses his physical condition where dehydration is a major side effect.
    So-so picture (with a strip of tape with his #35 on the bottle) here.

  • Bob A | March 5, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    This as another one of those days that causes me to curse the work network filtering Flickr. I’m dying to see that Orioles prototype.

  • fight | March 5, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”317165″][quote comment=”317162″][quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]
    I have this Mr. Red bookmarked on my computer: http://www.crosley-f...

    That’s Mr. RedLEGS, not Mr. Red.

    One thing I love about Mr. Redlegs is that he’s always depicted with one of his collar points sticking up:
    http://www.crosley-f...
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    http://b7.ac-images....

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    Well, almost always:
    http://blogs.answers...

    yeah, i caught my mistake there as soon as i hit submit … i will hereby turn in my lifelong cincinnati reds fan membership

    however, maybe this concepcion nob and stirrup picture ( http://crosley-field... ) will make up for it?

  • Hott Rodd | March 5, 2009 at 10:14 am |

    I thought it was odd to see that Jack in the Box logo in San Diego last year. Now I know.

  • LI Phil | March 5, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    [quote]Your rarely see a logo playing defense[/quote]

    or the nueva york knicks

  • mako | March 5, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    Brother Lo! As a lifelong O’s fan (hasn’t been easy lately, but I grew up – in San Francisco! – during the B. Robby/F. Robby glory days), I love those ’79 photos! Not at all sure about that prototype, but I have to say I think the club’s new unis look pretty sharp.

    Re Kezar: I’m sure the Abomination That Is Candlestick was much more profitable (more seats, more parking, etc.), and that is where the Niners played during their glory years, but it was so cool to have an NFL stadium right in the heart of the city. I wandered by the “new” Kezar last fall on a trip back to S.F., and I think they did a pretty nice job, given that it’s just, you know, a replica, not an authentic. I believe it’s still used for local high school games, etc.

  • Jim Bullard | March 5, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”317153″][quote comment=”317147″]crap…i cut my own comment off…anyway like i said the fast food restaurants sell fish at lent but I am pretty sure the fish on the street are one of those city wide art projects like the cows in chicago or the guitars in cleveland.[/quote]
    Don’t forget the pigs in Cincinnati and the horses in Louisville.[/quote]

    It was penguins in Tulsa.

  • Teebz | March 5, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”317171″][quote]Your rarely see a logo playing defense[/quote]

    or the nueva york knicks[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure defence has been outlawed in NYC.

    Mets – late-season collapses.
    Islanders – perennial doormats.
    Rangers – Brad Park wouldn’t save them.
    Knicks – “defence” is a cuss word.
    Yankees – best defence is a good offence.
    Jets – late-season collapse + Favre-mania.
    Giants – ok, so maybe there’s one team. LOL

  • jelmercw | March 5, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    Check out the kinesio-tape job on the player on the left, from the FIBA EuroChallenge game between Bonn and Den Bosch.

    http://lh4.ggpht.com...

  • Dustin | March 5, 2009 at 10:37 am |

    I have seen player number designations on the water bottles before, and it was also in the NHL. I believe I was watching the Blues, and half the team either just had, was fighting or just got over the flu, so each player had their own bottle of water, and some players may have had two bottles, one of water and another of a sports drink.

  • oilfan | March 5, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”317152″]I find it interesting that Vanek is wearing a visor and a chin piece, instead of a full face mask http://www.oceanhock...

    Those particular Itech full shields are pretty bad for distortion from my experience. I just wonder if they come like that or did someone take the time to hack off the visor portion of that shield. Personally I’m a big fan of the current Itech combo shield.

    Vanek is clearly using a smaller cut pro visor, as even the combo face shields cover up a lot more – to be CSA/HECC certified.

  • Teebz | March 5, 2009 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”317177″][quote comment=”317152″]I find it interesting that Vanek is wearing a visor and a chin piece, instead of a full face mask http://www.oceanhock...

    Those particular Itech full shields are pretty bad for distortion from my experience. I just wonder if they come like that or did someone take the time to hack off the visor portion of that shield. Personally I’m a big fan of the current Itech combo shield.

    Vanek is clearly using a smaller cut pro visor, as even the combo face shields cover up a lot more – to be CSA/HECC certified.[/quote]

    The full shields fog up way too fast as well, especially in an indoor arena. Having a well-ventilated visor is much more important for safety reasons.

  • Daniel | March 5, 2009 at 10:53 am |

    Thomas Vanek’s water bottle clearly just has a strip of tape over it. It’s not specially designed anymore than putting tape and your name on anything would be.

  • Brendan | March 5, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    Paul, that was me in the other Rebels jersey. I was headed to Erie to watch an OHL hockey game so I had to take off early.

    Two Pittsburgh Rebels jerseys at the same gathering? Who woulda thunk it.

  • Ry Co 40 | March 5, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    great pittsburgh pics!

    ummm… not really uni-related… WAIT! i take that back, one of the girls has a pat’s logo on her shorty-shorts!!! i hate the pat’s… but, cheerleader tryouts were held (and always fun):

    http://www.boston.co...

  • Ricko | March 5, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”317161″][quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]

    I found a few, but nothing in the modern era…

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    The late ’50s (last Griffith) Senators and the ’61 expansion Senators aren’t the “modern era”?

    When DOES “modern era” begin, anyway? Anyone actually identified a turning point?
    Giants and Dodgers move to West Coast and GGEP (same year)?
    Color TV?
    The first Super Bowl?
    Double knit and cleats with logos in baseball?
    Cable TV?
    The Internet?
    Or do we each define it for ourselves as “Starting from When I Remember”?

    Actually I’m kinda serious. The answers would be interesting.
    (Even though I suddenly also feel like I should just lie down and pull the sod over me. LOL)

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | March 5, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”317181″]great pittsburgh pics!

    ummm… not really uni-related… WAIT! i take that back, one of the girls has a pat’s logo on her shorty-shorts!!! i hate the pat’s… but, cheerleader tryouts were held (and always fun):

    http://www.boston.co...

    what logo … i mean, great shots

    hey ryan…

    GREAT DIY! nice job

  • Mark | March 5, 2009 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”317154″]I really don’t know what to think of that O’s jersey???? A new sample from 96 doesn’t make sense to me since 95 was a redesign year for them? And strange that I never saw it before because I was working on their jerseys in 96.

    I do like that patch though! Your rarely see a logo playing defense. The team at that time was very anti-cartoon bird. It was tough to find anywhere…no hats, t’s or anything. One of the great things to come out of them being bad is it forced them to embrace the old logos to reconnect with fans[/quote]

    That jersey is mine. I originally posted on Orioles Hangout. A fellow poster there asked if it would be OK to show it here, and I said, “sure”!
    It has to be from 1996, as that particular (awful) script appeared only late in the 1996 season. (It could be a rejected prototype for 1997, but can’t date from earlier than mid-1996.)
    The bird logo is a cruder versiou of the Fredrick Key’s Eagle with a glove sleeve/cap patch. (I REALLY regret never buying that road hat!)

  • Namhob | March 5, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]
    The Washington Senators used to have a pitcher in their logo. http://www.sportslog...

    Traverse City Beach Bums in the Frontier League – http://www.sportslog...

    New Britain Rock Cats in the Eastern League – http://www.sportslog...

    I’m still looking for some non-baseball ones.

  • Ry Co 40 | March 5, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”317183″][quote comment=”317181″]great pittsburgh pics!

    ummm… not really uni-related… WAIT! i take that back, one of the girls has a pat’s logo on her shorty-shorts!!! i hate the pat’s… but, cheerleader tryouts were held (and always fun):

    http://www.boston.co...

    what logo … i mean, great shots

    hey ryan…

    GREAT DIY! nice job[/quote]

    thanks phil!!! already started working on DIY #3, something redemske is sure to like…

    had a blast at the gathering though! great to meet paul, kirsten and the rest of the pittsburgh/buffalo/morris gang! haha

  • Robert in Dallas | March 5, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”317169″]
    yeah, i caught my mistake there as soon as i hit submit … i will hereby turn in my lifelong cincinnati reds fan membership

    however, maybe this concepcion nob and stirrup picture ( http://crosley-field... ) will make up for it?[/quote]

    Great photo. It demonstrates amply that a simple uniform could look sooooooo good. It was a shame when the buttonfree jerseys and beltless pants ruined it not too terribly long after this photo was taken.

  • Sammy | March 5, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    Paul–don’t come anywhere near Ann Arbor next week.

    I’m assuming you are on facebook, since you’ve posted links before…

  • Fran | March 5, 2009 at 11:54 am |

    Paul, It’s a shame you didn’t make it to a Primanti Brothers to try out one of these bad boys.

  • JF in DC | March 5, 2009 at 11:56 am |

    Wow, a Gerry Cosby’s reference in the ticker…haven’t thought about that place in years. In the early ’80s, I dated a girl from LI and my first stop was always GC’s in Westbury. I went to the web site and it seems it’s no longer there.

    LI Phil: how long has the LI Cosby’s been gone?

    Anywho, being from Rochester, we never had a place like GC’s for team gear. In 1981, I bought a Fred Smerlas (NNOB) Bills road jersey there. In 1981, you couldn’t find a Bills road jersey anywhere in western NY!

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | March 5, 2009 at 12:00 pm |

    Ricko – In baseball, the term “modern era” does in fact have a set meaning — “since 1900”. It is used to exclude pre-1900 performance from otherwise “all-time” records.

    I remember first hearing about this in 1974 when Lou Brock broke Ty Cobb’s “modern” stolen base record of 96. This phrase “modern stolen base record” was used to distinguish Cobb’s mark from that of 19th-Century player Billy Hamilton, who twice stole 111 bases in a season, while playing under rules that differ from those of today’s game.

    (Brock of course eventually stole 118 that year, surpassing also Hamilton. But the acknowledged “record breaking” stolen base was the one that broke the “modern” Cobb record of 96.)

  • LI Phil | March 5, 2009 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”317190″]
    LI Phil: how long has the LI Cosby’s been gone?[/quote]

    you mean this?

    it’s STILL THERE, just went under a lil revitalization a few years back…perhaps you didn’t recognize it

  • Nick | March 5, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    Anyone know where I can buy a fitted Reds hat without the black drop shadow? I don’t know when they added that black but it looks like trash.

  • Joe Hilseberg | March 5, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”317192″][quote comment=”317190″]
    LI Phil: how long has the LI Cosby’s been gone?[/quote]

    you mean this?

    it’s STILL THERE, just went under a lil revitalization a few years back…perhaps you didn’t recognize it[/quote]

    I visited the NYC Cosby’s last month and was flat out SHOCKED to see that they were selling Rangers Jerseys with heat pressed on tackle will numbers that were not sewn. That is just unacceptable in my book…have pride and standards in what you do rather than trying to make a quick buck.

  • George | March 5, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    Interesting observation from the Pitt party: Despite the Steelers being the most successful team in the city, fresh off a record-setting Super Bowl win, and having classic uniforms, I remember only one person showing up wearing their jersey. Pirates, Penguins and Pitt threads certainly dominated. Thanks Paul, for the opportunity to meet such great Uni followers in the area.

  • chance | March 5, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]
    Not many – most mascots are sluggers (Mr. Red being the exception, unless he’s rounding the bases after knocking in a dinger). The fascination with home runs isn’t new, I guess.

    In the 1940s, the Milwaukee Brewers of the American Association frequently used logos of the Beer Barrel Man playing defense – sometimes in the field, sometimes behind the plate, even making a spectacular catch (I have a program with that on it, but the only scan I can find right now is this small one).

    Of course, when it came time for the major league Brewers to select a logo, they went with – wait for it – the long ball. (original here.

    I’m with you guys – that Orioles sleeve patch is a thing of beauty. Wow. Shame they never used it.

  • Ricko | March 5, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”317193″]Anyone know where I can buy a fitted Reds hat without the black drop shadow? I don’t know when they added that black but it looks like trash.[/quote]

    Try here…
    http://www.dugout-me...

    —Ricko

  • chance | March 5, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    Sorry, the original on that Brewers 1970 logo is here.

  • Jeff G | March 5, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”317178″][quote comment=”317177″][quote comment=”317152″]I find it interesting that Vanek is wearing a visor and a chin piece, instead of a full face mask http://www.oceanhock...

    Those particular Itech full shields are pretty bad for distortion from my experience. I just wonder if they come like that or did someone take the time to hack off the visor portion of that shield. Personally I’m a big fan of the current Itech combo shield.

    Vanek is clearly using a smaller cut pro visor, as even the combo face shields cover up a lot more – to be CSA/HECC certified.[/quote]

    The full shields fog up way too fast as well, especially in an indoor arena. Having a well-ventilated visor is much more important for safety reasons.[/quote]

    If you look closely at Vanek’s jaw shield you’ll see that it is attached directly to his helmet, a full visor/shield/cage is hinged and if he gets hit in the chin the shield/cage would hit him in the jaw. Reminds me of Pat LalalalalalalaFontaine when he had a similiar jaw injury back in the day.

  • Jeff G | March 5, 2009 at 12:36 pm |
  • Bernard | March 5, 2009 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”317161″][quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]

    I found a few, but nothing in the modern era…

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    Jeez, what is wrong with this Senator’s face?

    http://www.sportslog...

    He looks like a Picasso. Or the Elephant Man.

  • Ricko | March 5, 2009 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”317201″][quote comment=”317161″][quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]

    I found a few, but nothing in the modern era…

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.sportslog...

    Jeez, what is wrong with this Senator’s face?

    http://www.sportslog...

    He looks like a Picasso. Or the Elephant Man.[/quote]

    Color breaks aren’t right. That’s supposed to be a big shock of white hair above his eyebrow.

    Change that area to white and it makes sense.

    —Ricko

  • Dave | March 5, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    That Lions hockey jersey is one of the best things I have ever seen.

    Is there anywhere I can get clothes with some of the beer barrel man logos on it?

  • Stan a.k.a. | March 5, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    Pittsburgh seems like an awesome city (ranked most livable and clean etc. etc.) I’ve been trying to get my lady and I go this summer cause I thought about moving there, teachers my chosen profession if I ever get out of school get paid well there. I am in NYC so I am used to big and bad and I don’t know if I can do a smaller city then again that’s why I want to go and see.

    Btw the trip seemed awesome and that cycling jersey is sweet and any more info about that number 13 baseball jersey. I really like that font.

  • chance | March 5, 2009 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”317203″]That Lions hockey jersey is one of the best things I have ever seen.

    Is there anywhere I can get clothes with some of the beer barrel man logos on it?[/quote]

    The only place I know (other than somebody setting up a Zazzle account, and if anybody wants to, let me know and I can supply vector files) is Ebbets Field Flannels. They currently have a t-shirt with the classic Beer Barrel Man (whose name was Owgust, BTW). Please buy one – I feel like I’m the only one interested in him, and I really want Ebbets to expand their Brewers offerings.

    The MLB version of the Beer Barrel Man is finally getting some belated love. But what’s up with Distant Replays? I was going to link to them (they had some more 1970s stuff), but now nothing. Are they going out of business or something? Their offerings have been slashed (they only have three Yankees items for sale)? Anybody heard anything?

  • Joe Hilseberg | March 5, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”317203″]That Lions hockey jersey is one of the best things I have ever seen.

    Is there anywhere I can get clothes with some of the beer barrel man logos on it?[/quote]

    I have one of these I got on ebay!
    http://www.angelfire...

    Does anyone have any pictures of the lettering used on these???

  • LI Phil | March 5, 2009 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”317207″][quote comment=”317203″]That Lions hockey jersey is one of the best things I have ever seen.

    Is there anywhere I can get clothes with some of the beer barrel man logos on it?[/quote]

    I have one of these I got on ebay!
    http://www.angelfire...

    Does anyone have any pictures of the lettering used on these???[/quote]

    hey joe,

    can you host or flickr that pic/link? it’s coming up with the dreaded “angelfire” blank logo

  • Marc M. | March 5, 2009 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”317165″][quote comment=”317162″][quote comment=”317156″][quote comment=”317154″]I do like that patch though! You rarely see a logo playing defense.[/quote]

    Excellent point. Are there any other examples?[/quote]
    I have this Mr. Red bookmarked on my computer: http://www.crosley-f...

    That’s Mr. RedLEGS, not Mr. Red.

    One thing I love about Mr. Redlegs is that he’s always depicted with one of his collar points sticking up:
    http://www.crosley-f...
    http://4.bp.blogspot...
    http://b7.ac-images....

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    http://www.crosley-f...

    Well, almost always:
    http://blogs.answers...
    How about one of each, offense and defense?
    http://www.whyy.org/...

  • chance | March 5, 2009 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”317208″][quote comment=”317207″][quote comment=”317203″]That Lions hockey jersey is one of the best things I have ever seen.

    Is there anywhere I can get clothes with some of the beer barrel man logos on it?[/quote]

    I have one of these I got on ebay!
    http://www.angelfire...

    Does anyone have any pictures of the lettering used on these???[/quote]

    hey joe,

    can you host or flickr that pic/link? it’s coming up with the dreaded “angelfire” blank logo[/quote]
    He’s referring to the Brewers TATC jersey. Go here and scroll down to the bottom.

    And no, I don’t know what the lettering looked like. I’ve seen the back of other teams’ jerseys, but they all appear to be different. The Brewers only wore them once, on the road in Miami.

  • Randall | March 5, 2009 at 2:01 pm |

    That red Matt Morris jersey is pure perfection…

  • anotherguy | March 5, 2009 at 2:04 pm |

    Food trivia with a fish mention: we used to get fried fish and french fries wrapped in newspaper.

    Obviously that was in a very different era wrt both trans fats as well as carcinogins in newspaper ink… :-)

    With all of the fish trivia, its ironic that the Quarter Pounder was invented by a McDonalds franchisee in Pittsburgh.

  • CWeb9 | March 5, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    Actually, it was the Big Mac, for those scoring at home.

  • jesse | March 5, 2009 at 2:14 pm |

    For a Reds cap try mickeysplace.com they have real nice caps. As for the Senators logo where he’s in the wind-up, it was designed by Red Auerbach’s brother, who designed the Celtics logo

  • JF in DC | March 5, 2009 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”317192″][quote comment=”317190″]
    LI Phil: how long has the LI Cosby’s been gone?[/quote]

    you mean this?

    it’s STILL THERE, just went under a lil revitalization a few years back…perhaps you didn’t recognize it[/quote]
    Thanks! Wonder why it wasn’t listed on their website; they listed the NYC store and a store in MA. But I remember Cosby’s as being off the main drag in a little plaza…maybe it was Old Country Road??? Dang, going back almost 30 years here…sigh…

  • LI Phil | March 5, 2009 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”317216″][quote comment=”317192″][quote comment=”317190″]
    LI Phil: how long has the LI Cosby’s been gone?[/quote]

    you mean this?

    it’s STILL THERE, just went under a lil revitalization a few years back…perhaps you didn’t recognize it[/quote]
    Thanks! Wonder why it wasn’t listed on their website; they listed the NYC store and a store in MA. But I remember Cosby’s as being off the main drag in a little plaza…maybe it was Old Country Road??? Dang, going back almost 30 years here…sigh…[/quote]

    it’s on post avenue in westbury, just north of OCR…about 1/3 mile past the LIRR bridge on the left

  • Tony In Erie | March 5, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    I’m disappointed in myself that I did not make the 100 mile trip down to the Burgh for the party. Glad to see it was a success.

    Saying this might make me sound soft, but I’ve been going to this site for at least three years and I must say, although not uniform news, that Flickr set from Braddock has impressed (read:depressed) me more than almost anything I’ve ever seen on this blog.

    Thanks for including it, Paul.

  • Brendan | March 5, 2009 at 3:30 pm |

    re: the fish sandwiches

    Ya, it’s pretty much a year round thing, although it takes on a whole new dimension during Lent.

    My uncle moved from Pittsburgh to Seattle, and he couldn\’t believe the difficulty he had out there getting a Pittsburgh style fish sammich. Eventually, he would just order a fish and ask them to also bring out a bun for him. They looked at him like he was crazy.

  • Nick Houser | March 5, 2009 at 3:32 pm |

    The Dayton Flyers might unveil their long rumored black jerseys tonight at arch-rival Xavier. Info here

  • War Damn Eagle | March 5, 2009 at 3:47 pm |

    Looks like Manny has switched from Louisville Slugger batting gloves to Nike:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • War Damn Eagle | March 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”317221″]Looks like Manny has switched from Louisville Slugger batting gloves to Nike:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Here he is last year with the Louisville Slugger batting gloves:
    http://www.dailycome...

  • Bob A | March 5, 2009 at 4:01 pm |

    I missed the Gerry Cosby reference in my first look at the ticker. That has to be my favorite store ever. Started shopping there in the 60s, a couple of locations ago. Looks like they have moved again. The place wasn’t as cool the last time I was there at their Penn Station spot a couple of years ago. Still brought back a lot of memories though.

  • Kane | March 5, 2009 at 4:11 pm |

    If we want to nitpick, which is what this site is about, that’s actually a 1914 Pittsburgh Stogies jersey. They changed to the Rebels halfway through the 1914 season. They did not, however, change unis.

  • War Damn Eagle | March 5, 2009 at 4:14 pm |

    Anyone else notice that the Nike Pro Core shirts worn by most of the players in the WBC has the swoosh right at the front of the neckline so that it’s easily visible above the top button of the jersey?

    Here it is on Jimmy Rollins:
    http://sports.yahoo....

    and Panama’s Julio Zuleta:
    http://sports.yahoo....

  • anotherguy | March 5, 2009 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”317214″]Actually, it was the Big Mac, for those scoring at home.[/quote]That’s correct; thanks. The irony of the red meat vs. fish remains, but your tip-in makes the contrast that much greater. Thanks again.

    One other question for all readers: is there such a thing as a “throwback jersey from the Federal League”? Were they really updating and changing uniforms that often in the two or three-year period right around 1915? (I’m not a Federal League expert, but I certainly hear enough Wrigley Field trivia to know that it was a flash in the pan.)

    Finally, one of my favorite ESPN jokes (as if there are a lot of ESPN jokes): For those of you scoring at home…. turn off the TV and put on a Sinatra record!

  • Matthew | March 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm |

    I went to renew my Thrashers season tickets and saw what looks like a 10th anniversary logo for next season.

    Gotta be one of the worst I’ve ever seen, but I guess it has to keep up with the awful alternate jersey.

    http://thrashers.nhl...

  • Ricko | March 5, 2009 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”317226″][quote comment=”317214″]Actually, it was the Big Mac, for those scoring at home.[/quote]That’s correct; thanks. The irony of the red meat vs. fish remains, but your tip-in makes the contrast that much greater. Thanks again.

    One other question for all readers: is there such a thing as a “throwback jersey from the Federal League”? Were they really updating and changing uniforms that often in the two or three-year period right around 1915? (I’m not a Federal League expert, but I certainly hear enough Wrigley Field trivia to know that it was a flash in the pan.)

    Finally, one of my favorite ESPN jokes (as if there are a lot of ESPN jokes): For those of you scoring at home…. turn off the TV and put on a Sinatra record![/quote]

    The first year of the Minnesota Twins, during a West Coast radio broadcast of game that went into extra innings, legendary newspaperman and Twins color commentator Halsey Hall, said, in reference to the lateness of the hour back home in Minnesota, “That’s 6-4-3, for those of you scoring in bed.”

    —Ricko

  • anotherguy | March 5, 2009 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”317166″]I took the MUNI out to Kezar while visiting SF early in 1987, it was still standing!! You could look through the gates and even see the field and the old concession stands. They finally had to tear down the structure after the 1989 earthquake. Here is the current downsized renovated version.[/quote]
    There’s an NFL Films DVD (it might be the history of the SF 49ers) that has footage of the contemporary version of Kezar. Of course, that DVD is probably ten years old, but they show Dan Fouts walking thru the areas where he was a teenage employee of the 49ers.

    Old AFL memories like the sideline yard markers at Arrowhead: at Oakland-Alameda, the yardline numbers were painted inside a Raiders shield.

  • The Hemogoblin | March 5, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”317229″][quote comment=”317166″]I took the MUNI out to Kezar while visiting SF early in 1987, it was still standing!! You could look through the gates and even see the field and the old concession stands. They finally had to tear down the structure after the 1989 earthquake. Here is the current downsized renovated version.[/quote]
    There’s an NFL Films DVD (it might be the history of the SF 49ers) that has footage of the contemporary version of Kezar. Of course, that DVD is probably ten years old, but they show Dan Fouts walking thru the areas where he was a teenage employee of the 49ers.

    Old AFL memories like the sideline yard markers at Arrowhead: at Oakland-Alameda, the yardline numbers were painted inside a Raiders shield.[/quote]

    There’s a soccer team or two in the middle of that field… funny.

  • Ricko | March 5, 2009 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”317230″][quote comment=”317229″][quote comment=”317166″]I took the MUNI out to Kezar while visiting SF early in 1987, it was still standing!! You could look through the gates and even see the field and the old concession stands. They finally had to tear down the structure after the 1989 earthquake. Here is the current downsized renovated version.[/quote]
    There’s an NFL Films DVD (it might be the history of the SF 49ers) that has footage of the contemporary version of Kezar. Of course, that DVD is probably ten years old, but they show Dan Fouts walking thru the areas where he was a teenage employee of the 49ers.

    Old AFL memories like the sideline yard markers at Arrowhead: at Oakland-Alameda, the yardline numbers were painted inside a Raiders shield.[/quote]

    There’s a soccer team or two in the middle of that field… funny.[/quote]

    As I recall, one of the major problems with Kezar was that the parking was brutal. Located as it is/was in Golden Gate Park, virtually all the parking was on-street in the neighborhoods adjacent to it. Apparently became an absolute nightmare as the popularity of the NFL exploded in the late ’50s and into the ’60s and the size of the crowds increased. Not to mention a real long walk for a lot of people from car to gate.

    Aren’t those aerial photos fun. Found the Wharf and the hotel where I stayed last time, as well as Candlestick (or whatever it is now) and Pac Bell (or whatever it is now) and Oakland Alameda…(ditto). BTW, don’t bother to say what they are on my account, cuz I honestly don’t care. HATE the selling of ballpark naming rights. Understand it. But that doesn’t mean I have to like it, or pay attention to it.

    For some reason don’t mind it for arenas or domes, but really bugs me for open air facilities (talk about NO logic on my part there, LOL). It’ll be “Twins Ballpark,” for me. They can take that other name and shove it.

    Crabby old fart, huh.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | March 5, 2009 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote]I went to renew my Thrashers season tickets and saw what looks like a 10th anniversary logo for next season.[/quote]

    that’s pathetic

  • Teebz | March 5, 2009 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”317227″]I went to renew my Thrashers season tickets and saw what looks like a 10th anniversary logo for next season.

    Gotta be one of the worst I’ve ever seen, but I guess it has to keep up with the awful alternate jersey.

    http://thrashers.nhl...

    You may also want to check how many tickets you get, Matthew. According to this page, you’ll be seeing 44 home games rather than the standard 41 played by all other NHL teams.

    Maybe the Thrashers are trying to squeeze a few AHL games in to boost their record?

  • Teebz | March 5, 2009 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”317233″][quote comment=”317227″]I went to renew my Thrashers season tickets and saw what looks like a 10th anniversary logo for next season.

    Gotta be one of the worst I’ve ever seen, but I guess it has to keep up with the awful alternate jersey.

    http://thrashers.nhl...

    You may also want to check how many tickets you get, Matthew. According to this page, you’ll be seeing 44 home games rather than the standard 41 played by all other NHL teams.

    Maybe the Thrashers are trying to squeeze a few AHL games in to boost their record?[/quote]

    Damn it.

    This page.

  • anotherguy | March 5, 2009 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=\”317231\”]As I recall, one of the major problems with Kezar was that the parking was brutal. Located as it is/was in Golden Gate Park, virtually all the parking was on-street in the neighborhoods adjacent to it. Apparently became an absolute nightmare as the popularity of the NFL exploded in the late \’50s and into the \’60s and the size of the crowds increased. Not to mention a real long walk for a lot of people from car to gate.[/quote]FWLIW the DVD does show some film of that era: I guess there was some rooftop watching back then? They also mention how close it was to Haight-Asbury and that uh, crowd. :-)

    Count me in as one who still goes to Comiskey and the Chicago Stadium. We have an arena near the airport here, to me it\’s still the Horizon and I couldn\’t even tell you what the real name is-despite driving by it perhaps 7 weekdays out of ten.

  • George | March 5, 2009 at 5:10 pm |

    Distant Replays is going out of business. My cousin in Atlanta, and one of Andy Hyman’s most loyal customers, emailed me last week with the news. Stated he has made a few trips to grab some New Era hats but is reluctant to make any more trips as he feels like he is picking at a dead carcass and he doesnt want to remember this great resource this way. This news now makes sense with Paul’s acknowledging their removal as a site sponsor recently.

  • anotherguy | March 5, 2009 at 5:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”317232″]I went to renew my Thrashers season tickets and saw what looks like a 10th anniversary logo for next season.[/quote]
    Well, don’t you have to start with a good nickname/logo to have any chance at having a good 10th anniversary logo?

    :-)

  • Dave | March 5, 2009 at 5:30 pm |

    The Brewers beer barrel logo is awesome. I’m going to buy some gear.

    Does anyone know where I could pick up that Wembley Lions jersey?

    By the way Ricko, I share the same irrational logic when it comes to disliking open air stadiums having brand names and not minding if arenas do.

  • Jeff P | March 5, 2009 at 5:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”317233″][quote comment=”317227″]I went to renew my Thrashers season tickets and saw what looks like a 10th anniversary logo for next season.

    Gotta be one of the worst I’ve ever seen, but I guess it has to keep up with the awful alternate jersey.

    http://thrashers.nhl...

    You may also want to check how many tickets you get, Matthew. According to this page, you’ll be seeing 44 home games rather than the standard 41 played by all other NHL teams.

    Maybe the Thrashers are trying to squeeze a few AHL games in to boost their record?[/quote]
    Preseason is included in Season tickets. That’s where the extra games come from.

    Of course, with my budget I only know because the Hurricanes do a free preseason game that always has every seat filled- except for the STH seats.

    Of course, it was the red/ white game this year, so not too shocked people don’t show up.

  • Teebz | March 5, 2009 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”317239″]
    Preseason is included in Season tickets. That’s where the extra games come from.

    Of course, with my budget I only know because the Hurricanes do a free preseason game that always has every seat filled- except for the STH seats.

    Of course, it was the red/ white game this year, so not too shocked people don’t show up.[/quote]

    They charge regular pricing for pre-season?

    Is it any wonder why hockey in Atlanta is failing… AGAIN?

  • Lwiedy | March 5, 2009 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”317223″]I missed the Gerry Cosby reference in my first look at the ticker. That has to be my favorite store ever. Started shopping there in the 60s, a couple of locations ago. Looks like they have moved again. The place wasn’t as cool the last time I was there at their Penn Station spot a couple of years ago. Still brought back a lot of memories though.[/quote]

    Bought my first fitted cap at the Penn Station location in 1979. Nothing like trying ‘em on for just the right size. Couldn’t do that with the ones from the back of The Sporting News.

  • Lwiedy | March 5, 2009 at 6:39 pm |

    Cosby’s is to Rangers as ______________ is (was) to the Islanders.

  • Matthew | March 5, 2009 at 7:45 pm |

    The “0” in that 10th anniversary logo has the same effect used in the 2008 All-Star Game Logo.

    http://sportslogos.n...

    Atlanta has had 3 home pre-season games for the past few years, which sucks because one or two would suffice.

    Hockey will not fail in Atlanta if they give us a decent team. Philips Arena was electric in 2007. Too bad the ownership only cares about the Hawks.

  • chance | March 5, 2009 at 7:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”317236″]Distant Replays is going out of business. My cousin in Atlanta, and one of Andy Hyman’s most loyal customers, emailed me last week with the news. Stated he has made a few trips to grab some New Era hats but is reluctant to make any more trips as he feels like he is picking at a dead carcass and he doesnt want to remember this great resource this way. This news now makes sense with Paul’s acknowledging their removal as a site sponsor recently.[/quote]

    That’s a real shame. I always liked those guys.

  • LI Phil | March 5, 2009 at 7:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”317242″]Cosby’s is to Rangers as ______________ is (was) to the Islanders.[/quote]

    oh larry…where u goin’ with this? goldmans? modells? nemos? …hmmm

  • chance | March 5, 2009 at 7:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”317238″]The Brewers beer barrel logo is awesome. I’m going to buy some gear.
    [/quote]

    Please do. Then they’ll make more.

  • Lwiedy | March 5, 2009 at 8:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”317245″][quote comment=”317242″]Cosby’s is to Rangers as ______________ is (was) to the Islanders.[/quote]

    oh larry…where u goin’ with this? goldmans? modells? nemos? …hmmm[/quote]

    Syosset Sport Center! They did all the customizing, repairs, etc for the Isles into the early 1990’s (maybe not that late). Like Cosby’s, they added a small tag on the inside of the hem line identifying their work.

    They used to have some pretty cool stuff in thier shop, don’t know if those same old connections are still there now.

  • interlockingtc | March 5, 2009 at 8:16 pm |

    All the joy and camaraderie of a Pittsburgh Uniwatch gathering…

    …and the heartbreaking humanity in dreams gone awry in Braddock.

    What a day.

    Thank you.

  • Lwiedy | March 5, 2009 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”317247″][quote comment=”317245″][quote comment=”317242″]Cosby’s is to Rangers as ______________ is (was) to the Islanders.[/quote]

    oh larry…where u goin’ with this? goldmans? modells? nemos? …hmmm[/quote]

    Syosset Sport Center! They did all the customizing, repairs, etc for the Isles into the early 1990’s (maybe not that late). Like Cosby’s, they added a small tag on the inside of the hem line identifying their work.

    They used to have some pretty cool stuff in thier shop, don’t know if those same old connections are still there now.[/quote]

    I know it’s hard to see on this but Smitty’s blocker has a Syosset sticker on it. Wouldn’t have known this myself but I went to college with a guy whose dad owned the shop. When the SI arrived, he went nuts.
    http://vault.sportsi...

  • Gretchen | March 5, 2009 at 8:24 pm |

    Watching Tennessee v. South Carolina now on ESPN.

    What’s with some of the S.C. jerseys? They’re wearing them 2-3 sizes too big, and the armholes are down to their waists. Such a crappy look.

  • Lwiedy | March 5, 2009 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”317249″][quote comment=”317247″][quote comment=”317245″][quote comment=”317242″]Cosby’s is to Rangers as ______________ is (was) to the Islanders.[/quote]

    oh larry…where u goin’ with this? goldmans? modells? nemos? …hmmm[/quote]

    Syosset Sport Center! They did all the customizing, repairs, etc for the Isles into the early 1990’s (maybe not that late). Like Cosby’s, they added a small tag on the inside of the hem line identifying their work.

    They used to have some pretty cool stuff in thier shop, don’t know if those same old connections are still there now.[/quote]

    I know it’s hard to see on this but Smitty’s blocker has a Syosset sticker on it. Wouldn’t have known this myself but I went to college with a guy whose dad owned the shop. When the SI arrived, he went nuts.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    And let us not forget Bill’s homage to his favorite football team he wore on his helmet!

  • Lwiedy | March 5, 2009 at 8:26 pm |

    Manny’s a flake, but he never did this: http://sportsillustr...

  • jesse | March 5, 2009 at 8:40 pm |

    Why is Distant Replays going under? They have/had some great stuff.

  • Jeff P | March 5, 2009 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”317240″][quote comment=”317239″]
    Preseason is included in Season tickets. That’s where the extra games come from.

    Of course, with my budget I only know because the Hurricanes do a free preseason game that always has every seat filled- except for the STH seats.

    Of course, it was the red/ white game this year, so not too shocked people don’t show up.[/quote]

    They charge regular pricing for pre-season?

    Is it any wonder why hockey in Atlanta is failing… AGAIN?[/quote]
    I think they’re thrown in free, or at least added at preseason pricing.

  • Steve | March 5, 2009 at 9:32 pm |

    Toronto’s goalie, Gerber, who was recently picked up from Ottawa wore his Senators mask and pads in tonight’s game against the Caps.

    This is a big money major league. With that being said, the Maple Leafs should have gotten him some different pads and at least a new mask.

  • Jeff P | March 5, 2009 at 9:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”317256″]Toronto’s goalie, Gerber, who was recently picked up from Ottawa wore his Senators mask and pads in tonight’s game against the Caps.

    This is a big money major league. With that being said, the Maple Leafs should have gotten him some different pads and at least a new mask.[/quote]
    Pads and masks take a while. Most masks are custom made, and the paint jobs usually take a while. And Goalie pads are the same way. They have to be made by hand, And take time to break in.

    Seeing previous team masks and pads is quite common, and can be quite ugly. If you can find a picture of it, Auld in his Phoenix pads with Boston last year clashed horribly.

  • Mike Engle | March 5, 2009 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”317251″][quote comment=”317249″][quote comment=”317247″][quote comment=”317245″][quote comment=”317242″]Cosby’s is to Rangers as ______________ is (was) to the Islanders.[/quote]

    oh larry…where u goin’ with this? goldmans? modells? nemos? …hmmm[/quote]

    Syosset Sport Center! They did all the customizing, repairs, etc for the Isles into the early 1990’s (maybe not that late). Like Cosby’s, they added a small tag on the inside of the hem line identifying their work.

    They used to have some pretty cool stuff in thier shop, don’t know if those same old connections are still there now.[/quote]

    I know it’s hard to see on this but Smitty’s blocker has a Syosset sticker on it. Wouldn’t have known this myself but I went to college with a guy whose dad owned the shop. When the SI arrived, he went nuts.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    And let us not forget Bill’s homage to his favorite football team he wore on his helmet![/quote]
    It’s probably really obvious, but what are you talking about?

  • Peter | March 5, 2009 at 9:57 pm |

    “Kansas-CITY”…”Kansas-CITY”…wow…so Phil…can we start designing prototypes for the KC In-landers?

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  • Peter | March 5, 2009 at 9:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”317253″]Why is Distant Replays going under? They have/had some great stuff.[/quote]

    -maybe it has something to do with $42 t-shirts…

  • LI Phil | March 5, 2009 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”317259″]”Kansas-CITY”…”Kansas-CITY”…wow…so Phil…can we start designing prototypes for the KC In-landers?

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!![/quote]

    i’ll get paulie right on that one

  • Peter | March 5, 2009 at 10:30 pm |

    As a hockey fan…it will be sad to see the Islanders leave…its even sadder when they fail in KC too…KC is not a hockey city…but as a Ranger fan…will I really miss the Islanders? I am actually debating that…I mean, would an AHL team take their place on the Island…whoops…the Sound Tigers are already there!!

    *Phil…please don’t take it personally…POTVIN SUCKS will live forever!!

  • Lwiedy | March 5, 2009 at 10:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”317258″][quote comment=”317251″][quote comment=”317249″][quote comment=”317247″][quote comment=”317245″][quote comment=”317242″]Cosby’s is to Rangers as ______________ is (was) to the Islanders.[/quote]

    oh larry…where u goin’ with this? goldmans? modells? nemos? …hmmm[/quote]

    Syosset Sport Center! They did all the customizing, repairs, etc for the Isles into the early 1990’s (maybe not that late). Like Cosby’s, they added a small tag on the inside of the hem line identifying their work.

    They used to have some pretty cool stuff in thier shop, don’t know if those same old connections are still there now.[/quote]

    I know it’s hard to see on this but Smitty’s blocker has a Syosset sticker on it. Wouldn’t have known this myself but I went to college with a guy whose dad owned the shop. When the SI arrived, he went nuts.
    http://vault.sportsi...

    And let us not forget Bill’s homage to his favorite football team he wore on his helmet![/quote]
    It’s probably really obvious, but what are you talking about?[/quote]

    Smith, at least in the early 1980’s, had New York Jets decals (two) on his mask/helmet. Never knew the story behind it but they were there for some time.

  • Sarran | March 5, 2009 at 10:52 pm |

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...
    Also note the Spurs road shoe with home uni.

  • James Craven | March 6, 2009 at 12:27 am |

    [quote comment=”317214″]“Actually, it was the Big Mac, for those scoring at home…”[/quote]

    Or even if you’re by yourself.

    C’mon, you knew someone was gonna use that line!

  • chance | March 6, 2009 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”317260″][quote comment=”317253″]Why is Distant Replays going under? They have/had some great stuff.[/quote]

    -maybe it has something to do with $42 t-shirts…[/quote]
    Throwback merch is a luxury good. Sad, but not surprising that this economy has been hard for them.