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Clean ’Plate Club

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Okay, so the Pittsburgh party report will have to wait, because something really interesting happened late on Monday night (too late for me to write about it in time for yesterday). I promise we’ll get to all the Pittsburgh stuff tomorrow, but today I want to deal with this scene that went down in Texas two nights ago.

Here’s the deal: We all know college and high school coaches, across all sports, sometimes like to “punish” their players and/or emphasize team unity by going NNOB (Illinois hoops coach Bruce Weber has already announced his intention to keep the team NNOB next season). Back in 2000, Colorado football coach Gary Barnett went further, removing the team logo from the players’ helmets after an 0-4 start.

All of which is easy enough when it’s just a matter of peeling off a helmet decal or tearing off a nameplate. But what do you do if you want to go NNOB in the middle of the season and your NOB lettering is direct-sewn?

The answer was on display in Monday night’s Baylor/Texas basketball game, as the Bears — who normally have gold NOBs — wore blank green nameplate strips that covered up their NOBs (you can see several additional photos here).

The move was initiated by coach Scott Drew after the team lost eight out of nine during a one-month stretch that ended last Tuesday. Their first NNOB game was apparently a home game on Saturday against Colorado, although I can’t tell if they used blank white nameplates or had new NNOB jerseys produced for the occasion (here’s another inconclusive view). In any case, they won that game, but they lost the game against the Longhorns, so they’re now 1-1 in their NNOB phase. Their next game is Saturday afternoon, at home, so let’s see if we can get a better view of those white jerseys.

Personally, I think the cover-up nameplates look like shit. But it’s worth noting that eight of the team’s 14 players have surnames of five letters or fewer, so at least most of the green strips are mercifully small.

(Big thanks to Glenn Stern, Glenn Chavez, and Peter Mastrella for tipping me wise to this one.)

On a serious note…: As you may be aware, the newspaper industry is in even worse condition than the rest of the economy. That situation dealt a body blow to the Uni Watch family yesterday, as bench coach emeritus Bryan Redemske was a casualty of the latest staff reduction at the Omaha World-Herald.

Bryan’s a talented writer and editor, plus he has a teaching degree (along with an 18-month-old son and a mortgage, if you get my drift). He’s also a totally stand-up guy, a kick-ass cyclist, and my friend. I’m pretty sure he’ll land on his feet, but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t welcome a helping hand along the way. If you have any work opportunities for him or want to see his résumé, please give him a holler. Thanks.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The glossary of uni-centric terms that first appeared in my most recent ESPN column now has its own page here on this site (go ahead and bookmark it, because at the moment there’s nothing else linking to it). I’ve added a few additional terms to it and will continue to add to it as new terms present themselves. … I’ve also recently updated the FAQ page, which was badly out of date. … Here’s the awesome 1974 NHL bedsheet I recently won on eBay. Nice of them to render the Kings’ logo in blue instead of purple, just for me. … Small gallery of soccer NOB typos, several of which we’ve covered before, here (with thanks to Denis Hurley). … In honor of the Steelers’ sixth Super Bowl championship, Heinz has come out with a commemorative ketchup six-pack. Interesting that they designated each championship by its regular-season calendar year, rather than by its Super Bowl number, which I’m guessing is because they didn’t want to pay the added licensing fee. If you’re dying to spend $35 plus shipping on six bottles of ketchup, you can do so here until the beginning of the next NFL season (big thanks to Pittsburgh’s own Jennifer Baron). … Also from Jennifer: The economic stimulus package apparently includes funds targeted to help preserve Tiger Stadium. … In a related item, did you know that the economic recovery effort now has its own logo? The stars on the white field symbolize, of course, the NFL, while the green sprout represents legalized marijuana and the gears stand for the triumph of mechanized socialism, wheee! I’m not quite sure how anyone could design a logo for a $787 billion program and neglect to include a dollar sign, but maybe that symbolizes the fact that we’re all broke. Say what you want, but it’s a shitload better than this. … There’s someone on Flickr who reeaallly likes Umbro. He’s got an excellent logo gallery and a ton of jersey photos (with thanks to Jeremy Gooch). … And the same guy has an Umbro blog (with thanks to Timothy O’Malley). … Interesting article here about the merchandising of basketball jerseys in general, and Purdue’s in particular (with thanks to Tyson Vaughn). … Yesterday I linked to two photos of Mike Williams and his unusual NOB. Here’s the other Williams from that squad, Clarence. So now we have three examples of the late-’70s Chargers using the “Name, Initial” format: the two Williamses and Gary “Big Hands” Johnson. I’ve gotta say, I had no idea they were doing this until these images recently surfaced (with thanks to Eric Stangel for the Clarence Williams shot). … Here’s something I hadn’t seen before: a prep school hockey player with a Windows logo jersey. “I’m guessing this is for a traveling team,” says Nick Houser, “because his high school colors are blue and silver and their mascot is the Patriots.” … Also from Nick: According to this page, the Blue Jackets have been wearing green St. Patty’s Day practice jerseys with “shamrock patches and Irish-themed nameplates.” I don’t even want to ask what that last part means. … Jon McCue notes that Seton Hall’s baseball team uses white type on a grey jersey — unusual. … Yesterday I linked to some pics from the Gaelic Athletic Association’s museum in Ireland, which prompted John Moist to remember that he’d taken a bunch of his own photos while visiting there last year. He got some really good jersey photos, which I’ve grouped into this short slideshow. … Great stirrups, even if they’re backwards. That’s Dodgers prospect Ivan DeJesus, who, unfortunately, is done for the year (with thanks to Dylan Horowitz). … Really nice old Montana stadium blanket here. … What’s that on the left sleeve of the Canadian WBC team? It’s an ad patch for Canadian hardware chain — and it’s bigger than their WBC logo patch. … Lots of great old Hershey Bears photos available if you click through the pages of this book (with thanks to Jerry Wolper). … You probably know that the Indians wore these jerseys in 1921. Interestingly, most of the Tribe players in this team portrait had their arms folded, obscuring the word “Champions” (good find by Kenny Crookston). … After Johnny “Red” Kerr and Norm Van Lier both died last Thursday, the Bulls added a black shoulder band. But now they’ve ditched the black band and replaced it with a patch, which I think we can all agree looks pretty nice. … Cliff Rancho pointed me toward this baseball card. Note the stats on the back — “B.H.” presumably stands for base hits, but what does “P.C.” stand for? Oh, and that same blog has some great old Kingdome program scans. … Jesse Gavin checked in with some observations from the Iowa High School Girls’ State Basketball Tourney, including one team wearing white-on-white type, a game featuring two teams with black sneakers and black socks (boy does that look like crap), a girls’ team called the Norsemen, and a pep band with killer socks. … Remember the Party Posse episode of The Simpsons? That’s the first thing I thought of when Dan Baer showed me this. … The Lakers did the Los Lakers thing last night against Memphis. … The Sixers are returning to the Spectrum for one last game, complete with a throwback court design (with thanks to Michael Lipinski).

 

148 comments to Clean ’Plate Club

  • Darrison Gam | March 4, 2009 at 8:05 am |

    Ok, I am on the fence about this 76ers thing. I think the idea is a great idea in the sense of reliving memories for the fans and the organization. On the other hand in these tough times isnt it kinda stupid to waste the time creating a floor for ONE F-ing game?

  • DenverGregg | March 4, 2009 at 8:10 am |

    On the old baseball card, “P.C.” might stand for “Per Cent” – what we’d call batting average.

  • JTH | March 4, 2009 at 8:26 am |

    [quote]the Blue Jackets have been wearing green St. Patty’s Day practice jerseys with “shamrock patches and Irish-themed nameplates.” I don’t even want to ask what that last part means.[/quote]
    I’m guessing it means that they use some kind of a Celtic-style font.

  • Ken the Otter | March 4, 2009 at 8:31 am |

    [quote comment=”316996″]On the old baseball card, “P.C.” might stand for “Per Cent” – what we’d call batting average.[/quote]

    That’s what it is. 61/295 = 0.207.

  • Geeman | March 4, 2009 at 8:52 am |

    Very sorry to hear about Brian’s layoff.

    It is sad to watch what is happening to print newspapers. The web is great, but there’s nothing like opening up your paper in the morning. It’ll be interesting to see what all these web sites do when there is no news from the newspapers to put on the sites.

    I hope things turn around and people realize what they’re about to lose, and what they’re missing by not reading and buying newspapers. People who don’t read newspapers are just plain uninteresting.

  • Jason Gomez | March 4, 2009 at 8:52 am |

    Umbro=Nike

  • Bob A | March 4, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    The NNOB talk has brought back memories of a NLOF (No Logo On Front) game I witnessed some years ago when Loyola New Orleans came to Houston for a basketball game in 1972 not long after it was announced that the LNO program was being disbanded. The Loyola players had taken the lettering off their jerseys and played with only numbers on the back. I remember that us Houston students wondered what the deal was until word got around Hofheinz Pavilion.
    One of the Loyola guys transfered to UH the next year and became a friend. LNO cranked up basketball again in the 90s. I wish I had pictures of that NLOF game.

  • Dwayne | March 4, 2009 at 8:57 am |

    Paul:

    I finally got an answer to the Pilots alleged double-knit jersey…..

    It was a homemade baseball card and the picture was Photoshopped.

    Sorry about bringing that up and wasting your time.

    That jersey does look good though.

  • Paul Lukas | March 4, 2009 at 8:58 am |

    [quote comment=”317002″]Paul:

    I finally got an answer to the Pilots alleged double-knit jersey…..

    It was a homemade baseball card and the picture was Photoshopped.

    Sorry about bringing that up and wasting your time.

    That jersey does look good though.[/quote]

    Now you tell me. I’m taking that out of the Ticker.

  • Timothy Omalley | March 4, 2009 at 8:59 am |

    The Umbro blog is actually from Umbro, so are the archives on Flikr, which you linked to on Feb 18th. They are currently running an entry on the design of the new England Kit being released on March 28th.

  • Greg A. | March 4, 2009 at 8:59 am |

    Interesting that there is no logo for the fledgling Capitals team on the bedspread…

  • Bernard | March 4, 2009 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”316997″][quote]the Blue Jackets have been wearing green St. Patty’s Day practice jerseys with “shamrock patches and Irish-themed nameplates.” I don’t even want to ask what that last part means.[/quote]
    I’m guessing it means that they use some kind of a Celtic-style font.[/quote]

    Does it not mean what the author says at the end?
    “What says St. Patrick’s Day like an McTyutin or O’Hejda jersey?”

  • John | March 4, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    Well that’s just great! That 3.8 million going to the old Tiger Stadium will certainly help get this economy turned around! Glad that there are so many economically uplifting projects in that stimulus bill!

  • Hank | March 4, 2009 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”316995″]Ok, I am on the fence about this 76ers thing. I think the idea is a great idea in the sense of reliving memories for the fans and the organization. On the other hand in these tough times isnt it kinda stupid to waste the time creating a floor for ONE F-ing game?[/quote]

    Now I know where part of my (excessive) Comcast cable/internet fee is going towards.

  • Fight | March 4, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    [quote comment=”317007″][quote comment=”316997″][quote]the Blue Jackets have been wearing green St. Patty’s Day practice jerseys with “shamrock patches and Irish-themed nameplates.” I don’t even want to ask what that last part means.[/quote]
    I’m guessing it means that they use some kind of a Celtic-style font.[/quote]

    Does it not mean what the author says at the end?
    “What says St. Patrick’s Day like an McTyutin or O’Hejda jersey?”[/quote]
    Fedor Tyutin and Jan Hejda are players on the Jackets, perhaps that is an insight into the nameplates, adding O’ and Mc to all the names?

  • LI Phil | March 4, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    [quote]Great stirrups, even if they’re backwards.[/quote]

    no, that’s just sad…kids today

    /on another note, that’s really terrible news about bryan…the slow death of the print medium continues, and this only brings that a little closer to home; all the best to you buddy, and im sure a man with your talents will find himself in high demand, even in this shitty economy

  • Ken the Otter | March 4, 2009 at 9:05 am |

    How quickly do you think these guys will get their cease-and-desist letters?

    http://www.tattooedt...

  • War Damn Eagle | March 4, 2009 at 9:13 am |

    Keep your chin up, Redemske.

    I don’t think the 1983 Sixers court had a giant “Wachovia” logo at center court. Shameless.

    http://www.nba.com/s...

  • Mark in Shiga | March 4, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    I’m a huge fan of NNOB jerseys — I want old-fashioned simplicity, with a number on the back and nothing else — but covering up existing nameplates means that the number is totally off-center vertically and looks awful.

    Just wait until the next season and make some proper number-only jerseys.

    (Can I editorialize for a moment? I don’t like the term “NNOB”. It implies that having a name on the back is the default and somehow standard. I realize that the majority of high-level teams have this today, but “number-only” is more neutral. Start saying “number-only”!)

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 9:20 am |

    “I don’t think the 1983 Sixers court had a giant “Wachovia” logo at center court. Shameless.”

    Unfortunately, by today’s standards, that’s what passes for “updating a classic look.” Or so they keep trying to get us to believe, anyway.

    What’s even scarier is that some people actually BUY that notion, that adding sponsor names or flat-out ad patches is contemporary, cool and forward-looking.

    —Ricko

  • Glen | March 4, 2009 at 9:26 am |
  • Vyacheslav | March 4, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    I think it’s cool that the Sixers are playing a final game at the Spectrum, sponsorship logos et al not withstanding. I wish more teams would do this. I was hoping the Jets would play one last game at Shea this season. Was that ever discussed? I think it would have been cool!

  • Jacob from ANnapolis | March 4, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    The Orioles also have a sorta Economic Recovery logo.

    Birdland Stimulus Package

  • Ry Co 40 | March 4, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”317013″]Keep your chin up, Redemske.

    I don’t think the 1983 Sixers court had a giant “Wachovia” logo at center court. Shameless.

    http://www.nba.com/s...

    …don’t think the 83 sixers had an annoying bunny with a skull-cap-thingy and a knee brace at center court either. haha

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”317012″]How quickly do you think these guys will get their cease-and-desist letters?

    http://www.tattooedt...

    Pretty pedestrian and uninspired designs, those, but I love the fact that they’re using the 1930s Yankee logo.

  • Joe Hilseberg | March 4, 2009 at 9:41 am |

    “The economic stimulus package apparently includes funds targeted to help preserve Tiger Stadium. … In a related item, did you know that the economic recovery effort now has its own logo?”

    How about the O’s “Birdland Stimulus Package”

    http://baltimore.ori...

  • Ry Co 40 | March 4, 2009 at 9:42 am |

    sorry about the tough news bryan! keep your head up and stay positive, you have tons of talent!!!

  • Darrison Gam | March 4, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”317017″]I think it’s cool that the Sixers are playing a final game at the Spectrum, sponsorship logos et al not withstanding. I wish more teams would do this. I was hoping the Jets would play one last game at Shea this season. Was that ever discussed? I think it would have been cool![/quote]

    At first I thought you were nuts, but then again, it is an AWESOME idea…the Giants Should have asked to play one more game at Yankee Stadium too! Damn this is actually a hell of an idea…

    too bad it is too late…

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”317005″]The Umbro blog is actually from Umbro, so are the archives on Flikr, which you linked to on Feb 18th. They are currently running an entry on the design of the new England Kit being released on March 28th.[/quote]

    Cool – thanks for the link.

    I complained pretty loudly about the new England crest. Still hate the shirt badge’s lighter color, but at least the revised Tudor roses have some historical basis.

    I’m just really hoping that this isn’t the new England shirt after all.

  • tosaman | March 4, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    I’d love to see ‘Ditch the Black’ added to the uni-centric glossary. I know it’s suppose to reference only the Mets, but it sure can be applied to a whole bunch of other teams. Say, the Detroit Lions, Knicks, various D-I hoops and football teams, ad nauseum…

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”317021″]”The economic stimulus package apparently includes funds targeted to help preserve Tiger Stadium. … In a related item, did you know that the economic recovery effort now has its own logo?”

    How about the O’s “Birdland Stimulus Package”

    http://baltimore.ori...

    Looks like “stimulus package” is in the road to becoming the most overused advertising gimmick this side of Ebenezer Scrooge at Christmas. Ooops…sorry, the Holidays.

  • oilfan | March 4, 2009 at 9:48 am |

    The Dominican Republic jerseys seem to have some sort of ad patch on it as well – at least from what I could tell with tape from an interview with A-Fraud the other day

  • Perry | March 4, 2009 at 10:03 am |

    Repeating a comment from yesterday — I posted it so late in the day that I think very few people saw it.

    Colorado Rapids have posted a photo gallery featuring their new 2009 kits here. (Click the link and then “2009 Rapids marketing photo shoot”).

    http://www.colorador

    Same basic colors and design as last year, but they’ve removed the “Rapids” wordmark from the home shirts and “Colorado” from the roadies, a pretty radical change. Only thing on the front now is the club crest (and of course the Adidas logo, alas). Hopefully that’s not just to clear space for the addition of a shirt sponsor.

    They say there’s an American flag on the left sleeve, but in the photo gallery it’s only visible on the away shirts.

  • Jordan Sogn | March 4, 2009 at 10:12 am |

    keep your chin up, Bryan.

  • Lwiedy | March 4, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”317020″][quote comment=”317012″]How quickly do you think these guys will get their cease-and-desist letters?

    http://www.tattooedt...

    Pretty pedestrian and uninspired designs, those, but I love the fact that they’re using the 1930s Yankee logo.[/quote]

    Someone came up with this one about 30 years ago. There was a t-shirt you could by at Stan’s (under the el at the Stadium) with the logo, “Super Team” et al.

  • Big Al | March 4, 2009 at 10:19 am |

    What a callback. I remember having about twenty pairs of Umbros (shorts) back in high school.

    (Of course, I also remember wearing Hypercolor and pinch-rolling my jeans, so…)

  • smitty | March 4, 2009 at 10:21 am |

    good luck Bryan! welcome to the world of the Unemployed. We’re a big club and getting bigger every day! 10 months for me now…gives me plenty of time to spend surfing the web and reading UW though. So there’s that.

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    I think the idea of identifying stimulus-package projects with a logo is particularly inspired.

    A great move, when we start seeing that logo displayed on new bridges and roads.

  • Timothy Omalley | March 4, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”317023″][quote comment=”317017″]I think it’s cool that the Sixers are playing a final game at the Spectrum, sponsorship logos et al not withstanding. I wish more teams would do this. I was hoping the Jets would play one last game at Shea this season. Was that ever discussed? I think it would have been cool![/quote]

    At first I thought you were nuts, but then again, it is an AWESOME idea…the Giants Should have asked to play one more game at Yankee Stadium too! Damn this is actually a hell of an idea…

    too bad it is too late…[/quote]

    I’m assuming the Sixers couldn’t play a game at the Wachovia Spectrum without it being called as such. I love the fact that they are doing this, i’m a sad i can’t go because i’ll be in Clearwater watching the Phils.

  • Lwiedy | March 4, 2009 at 10:26 am |

    Just a theory on the Heinz use of seasons in favor of “Super Bowl”. I’m pretty sure there is a separate licensing fee for use of SB. I’m not sure have licensing rights to a club mark gives you the same access to other NFL marks.

    It is funny how they created different logos for each by simply moving around the lettering.

  • Jeremiah | March 4, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    Saw the new Obama logo, and the first thing that caught my eye was the fact that the cogs weren’t connected. Basically to me that said, “sure the economy is crappy, but we won’t get it back on track because even our logo designer doesn’t think all the pieces fit.” Not exactly the sign of hope I’m looking for in this crappy economy. Secondly, just wondering how much they spent to have this logo designed. Couldn’t that tax money have been used for better things?

  • Lwiedy | March 4, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”317035″]Just a theory on the Heinz use of seasons in favor of “Super Bowl”. I’m pretty sure there is a separate licensing fee for use of SB. I’m not sure have licensing rights to a club mark gives you the same access to other NFL marks.

    It is funny how they created different logos for each by simply moving around the lettering.[/quote]

    No word yet if Heinz plans a mustard bottle to commemorate MVP Santonio Holmes.

  • Ry Co 40 | March 4, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”317035″]Just a theory on the Heinz use of seasons in favor of “Super Bowl”. I’m pretty sure there is a separate licensing fee for use of SB. I’m not sure have licensing rights to a club mark gives you the same access to other NFL marks.

    It is funny how they created different logos for each by simply moving around the lettering.[/quote]

    well, the only real problem i have with the bottles is that… i’m sitting here looking at the version that came out for the “2005 world champions” bottle (on my desk), and it is totally different then the 6-pack’s “2005 world champions” version. so if i were to buy the 6-pack, then i’d have this odd/random 2005 bottle sitting near it. keep it consistent at least. although, i will say i do like the design of the “new” 2005 champs bottle better. i’m torn…

    are there any uniwatchers from cincinnati, cleveland, detroit, seattle, jacksonville (to name a few), what do they do in this situation??? hee hee

  • Eriq Jaffe | March 4, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    Paul, why not link to, say, a late 70’s Padres jersey for an example of raglan sleeves? It’s far clearer than the Red Sox jersey you link to.

  • Fight | March 4, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    bryan – unemployed writer here as well, best of luck in the search … something will turn up, it always does – right? (he says with his fingers crossed)

  • Lwiedy | March 4, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”317039″]Paul, why not link to, say, a late 70’s Padres jersey for an example of raglan sleeves? It’s far clearer than the Red Sox jersey you link to.[/quote]

    Is there any reason for the term “Raglan”? I had always seen this style referred as “saddle shoulders”.

  • LI Phil | March 4, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”317041″][quote comment=”317039″]Paul, why not link to, say, a late 70’s Padres jersey for an example of raglan sleeves? It’s far clearer than the Red Sox jersey you link to.[/quote]

    Is there any reason for the term “Raglan”? I had always seen this style referred as “saddle shoulders”.[/quote]

    according to our good friends at wikipedia, “A raglan sleeve is a type of sleeve whose distinguishing characteristic is to extend in one piece fully to the collar, leaving a diagonal seam from underarm to collarbone. It is popular in sports and exercise wear, and named after the 1st Baron Raglan, probably because it was designed to fit his coat for the arm lost in the Battle of Waterloo.”

    /works for me

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”317036″]Secondly, just wondering how much they spent to have this logo designed. Couldn’t that tax money have been used for better things?[/quote]
    Probably not, unless they vastly overpaid.

    Part of the problem with the economy right now is confidence. Visually reminding people where their money’s going can boost that confidence.

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”317035″]Just a theory on the Heinz use of seasons in favor of “Super Bowl”. I’m pretty sure there is a separate licensing fee for use of SB. I’m not sure have licensing rights to a club mark gives you the same access to other NFL marks.
    [/quote]

    Or even the name and mark of the NFL itself – nowhere to be found on those bottles.

  • Lwiedy | March 4, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”317042″][quote comment=”317041″][quote comment=”317039″]Paul, why not link to, say, a late 70’s Padres jersey for an example of raglan sleeves? It’s far clearer than the Red Sox jersey you link to.[/quote]

    Is there any reason for the term “Raglan”? I had always seen this style referred as “saddle shoulders”.[/quote]

    according to our good friends at wikipedia, “A raglan sleeve is a type of sleeve whose distinguishing characteristic is to extend in one piece fully to the collar, leaving a diagonal seam from underarm to collarbone. It is popular in sports and exercise wear, and named after the 1st Baron Raglan, probably because it was designed to fit his coat for the arm lost in the Battle of Waterloo.”

    /works for me[/quote]

    I guess I could have done the research first. I love the story behind the name. I did find this reference to both: http://www.supercraf...
    Using both is kinda like “free gift”

  • Bryan Redemske | March 4, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    Hey all — thanks for the support. It means a lot, really.

  • AKT | March 4, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”317001″]The NNOB talk has brought back memories of a NLOF (No Logo On Front) game I witnessed some years ago when Loyola New Orleans came to Houston for a basketball game in 1972 not long after it was announced that the LNO program was being disbanded. The Loyola players had taken the lettering off their jerseys and played with only numbers on the back. I remember that us Houston students wondered what the deal was until word got around Hofheinz Pavilion.
    One of the Loyola guys transfered to UH the next year and became a friend. LNO cranked up basketball again in the 90s. I wish I had pictures of that NLOF game.[/quote]

    Do you recall when the Boston Univeristy players did something similar when the university announced they were cancelling the program?

    http://query.nytimes...

  • Kwik | March 4, 2009 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”317024″]
    I’m just really hoping that this isn’t the new England shirt after all.[/quote]

    I don’t think it looks all that bad, but what’s that thing in the lower left corner supposed to be? Some sort of counterfeit deterrent?

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”317042″][quote comment=”317041″][quote comment=”317039″]Paul, why not link to, say, a late 70’s Padres jersey for an example of raglan sleeves? It’s far clearer than the Red Sox jersey you link to.[/quote]

    Is there any reason for the term “Raglan”? I had always seen this style referred as “saddle shoulders”.[/quote]

    according to our good friends at wikipedia, “A raglan sleeve is a type of sleeve whose distinguishing characteristic is to extend in one piece fully to the collar, leaving a diagonal seam from underarm to collarbone. It is popular in sports and exercise wear, and named after the 1st Baron Raglan, probably because it was designed to fit his coat for the arm lost in the Battle of Waterloo.”

    /works for me[/quote]

    And he had BOTH shoulders made that way so people wouldn’t notice he couldn’t go to his left.

    Or was it his right? (See, it worked. I’m confused already)

    —Ricko

  • AKT | March 4, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”317038″][quote comment=”317035″]Just a theory on the Heinz use of seasons in favor of “Super Bowl”. I’m pretty sure there is a separate licensing fee for use of SB. I’m not sure have licensing rights to a club mark gives you the same access to other NFL marks.

    It is funny how they created different logos for each by simply moving around the lettering.[/quote]

    well, the only real problem i have with the bottles is that… i’m sitting here looking at the version that came out for the “2005 world champions” bottle (on my desk), and it is totally different then the 6-pack’s “2005 world champions” version. so if i were to buy the 6-pack, then i’d have this odd/random 2005 bottle sitting near it. keep it consistent at least. although, i will say i do like the design of the “new” 2005 champs bottle better. i’m torn…

    are there any uniwatchers from cincinnati, cleveland, detroit, seattle, jacksonville (to name a few), what do they do in this situation??? hee hee[/quote]

    We Steeler fans just have to suffer with these problems…life is tough.

  • MPowers1634 | March 4, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    Bryan,

    I’m sorry to hear about your misfortune. I would love to have you relocate to my area to add some class to my local rag!

    And Phil,

    If you can believe it, I actually purchased the royal Mets Inaugural cap yesterday.

    I’m doing my part to “ditch the black”!

  • Paul Lukas | March 4, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”317039″]Paul, why not link to, say, a late 70’s Padres jersey for an example of raglan sleeves? It’s far clearer than the Red Sox jersey you link to.[/quote]

    Agreed. Now fixed!

  • steve | March 4, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    the Blue Jackets have been wearing green St. Patty’s Day practice jerseys with “shamrock patches and Irish-themed nameplates.” I don’t even want to ask what that last part means.

    I’m guessing it means that they use some kind of a Celtic-style font.

    OR… adding “Mc” as a prefix to all names, maybe?

  • Lwiedy | March 4, 2009 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”317054″]the Blue Jackets have been wearing green St. Patty’s Day practice jerseys with “shamrock patches and Irish-themed nameplates.” I don’t even want to ask what that last part means.

    I’m guessing it means that they use some kind of a Celtic-style font.

    OR… adding “Mc” as a prefix to all names, maybe?[/quote]

    Let hope they don’t do Passover jerseys.

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”317054″]the Blue Jackets have been wearing green St. Patty’s Day practice jerseys with “shamrock patches and Irish-themed nameplates.” I don’t even want to ask what that last part means.

    I’m guessing it means that they use some kind of a Celtic-style font.

    OR… adding “Mc” as a prefix to all names, maybe?[/quote]

    or…” O’ ” (and they damn straight better the apostrophe right)

  • Harmy G | March 4, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    The second picture of the Los Lakers against Memphis is Gasol vs Gasol. They look almost identical!

  • Andrew Bright | March 4, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    Did anyone see the design on the back of shirt portion of Duke’s Men’s Basketball Jersey last night? They were wearing their traditional white jerseys with a faint, but noticeable gray geometric pattern on the back. I thought it was a different, but nice addition to the jersey.

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”317048″][quote comment=”317024″]
    I’m just really hoping that this isn’t the new England shirt after all.[/quote]

    I don’t think it looks all that bad, but what’s that thing in the lower left corner supposed to be? Some sort of counterfeit deterrent?[/quote]

    It’s a QR code. Sorta like a bar code for the 21st century. Take a picture of it with your smart phone, and the phone converts the image into a weblink. Presuming that the link is to the FA’s page.

  • Matt from L.A. | March 4, 2009 at 11:37 am |

    I love the fact that the Sixers are playing in the Spectrum. I think more teams should play in their old arena/stadium before it’s torn down. It would create a buzz around town and no doubt sell tickets.

    When the Dodgers went back to the LA Coliseum for one game to celebrate their move to Los Angeles 115,000 people bought tickets.

    The Giants still have a chance to use Yankee stadium.

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”317059″][quote comment=”317048″][quote comment=”317024″]
    I’m just really hoping that this isn’t the new England shirt after all.[/quote]

    I don’t think it looks all that bad, but what’s that thing in the lower left corner supposed to be? Some sort of counterfeit deterrent?[/quote]

    It’s a QR code. Sorta like a bar code for the 21st century. Take a picture of it with your smart phone, and the phone converts the image into a weblink. Presuming that the link is to the FA’s page.[/quote]

    Well, now I remember what happens when you presume. ;)

    The QR code links to
    http://umbroqr.umbro...

  • Marcus Ramsey | March 4, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    I’m going to the Los Spurs vs. Los Mavericks tonight.

    I wish it was “Espuelas vs. Cubanos”

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”317057″]The second picture of the Los Lakers against Memphis is Gasol vs Gasol. They look almost identical![/quote]

    My Spanish is seriously rusty, but shouldn’t those jerseys have said something like “Los Lagueros”?

  • Eric | March 4, 2009 at 12:00 pm |

    Re: The Hershey Bears book… There’s also one for the Rochester Americans, which I happen to own and can say is fantastic: Amerks Book

  • Craig | March 4, 2009 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”317006″]Interesting that there is no logo for the fledgling Capitals team on the bedspread…[/quote]

    I noticed that too. But the Kansas City Scouts, the other expansion team that year, do have a logo.

  • mtjaws | March 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”317036″]Saw the new Obama logo, and the first thing that caught my eye was the fact that the cogs weren’t connected. Basically to me that said, “sure the economy is crappy, but we won’t get it back on track because even our logo designer doesn’t think all the pieces fit.” Not exactly the sign of hope I’m looking for in this crappy economy. Secondly, just wondering how much they spent to have this logo designed. Couldn’t that tax money have been used for better things?[/quote]

    That is hilarious about the gear wheels not meeting up much. So much for productivity.

    The first thing I saw was the golf club standing up within the leaf section. The only recovery help those PGA guys need is when they hit it in the woods.

  • concealed78 | March 4, 2009 at 12:25 pm |

    I’m about 100% positive about this, but after looking at the Uni Watch glossary, since Reebok took over the NHL, I don’t think the Blackhawks have that fancy chain-stitching anymore, sadly. I hate Reebok so much.

  • Seth H | March 4, 2009 at 12:26 pm |

    “Let hope they don’t do Passover jerseys.”

    A few years ago at the Mets “Jewish” day, they had Russ Salzberg (local sports reporter)introduce the team with “Yiddish” names. Mike Piazza was introduced as “Moishy” Piazza, etc. It was pretty tedious, until they got to Benny Agbayani, who was introduced as — wait for it — “Benny” Agbayani. That got a pretty good laugh from the crowd.

    In sum, you are right to dread Passover jerseys.

  • oilfan | March 4, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”317067″]I’m about 100% positive about this, but after looking at the Uni Watch glossary, since Reebok took over the NHL, I don’t think the Blackhawks have that fancy chain-stitching anymore, sadly. I hate Reebok so much.[/quote]

    It’s still there – they’re still assembled in Quebec for the authentics – and from what I have seen – there has been no change in the crests for any of the teams.

  • kevin | March 4, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    The P.C. does indeed stand for “per cent”. If you divide the hits “B.H.” by the “A.B.”s you’ll get the “P.C.”

  • Noelski y que! | March 4, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    Los Laguneros

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”317071″]Los Laguneros[/quote]

    The Lagooners…sorta.
    Grasping at straws, I worked off “lago/lake”.
    (Hey, I did say mi Espanol es muy malo…due to extreme rust) LOL

  • Ry Co 40 | March 4, 2009 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”317066″][quote comment=”317036″]Saw the new Obama logo, and the first thing that caught my eye was the fact that the cogs weren’t connected. Basically to me that said, “sure the economy is crappy, but we won’t get it back on track because even our logo designer doesn’t think all the pieces fit.” Not exactly the sign of hope I’m looking for in this crappy economy. Secondly, just wondering how much they spent to have this logo designed. Couldn’t that tax money have been used for better things?[/quote]

    That is hilarious about the gear wheels not meeting up much. So much for productivity.

    The first thing I saw was the golf club standing up within the leaf section. The only recovery help those PGA guys need is when they hit it in the woods.[/quote]

    that is “hilarious”… and who would believe a thrasher with a hocky stick?!?!? or, or, better yet… a skating penguin?!?! hahaha

    it’s just a symbol… calm down just a little bit

  • Ken the Otter | March 4, 2009 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”317037″]No word yet if Heinz plans a mustard bottle to commemorate MVP Santonio Holmes.[/quote]

    Not mustard for a flamboyant WR… definitely relish.

  • Noelski y que! | March 4, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    i figured better a lagoon than a lake….especially for LA

  • concealed78 | March 4, 2009 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”316995″]Ok, I am on the fence about this 76ers thing. I think the idea is a great idea in the sense of reliving memories for the fans and the organization. On the other hand in these tough times isnt it kinda stupid to waste the time creating a floor for ONE F-ing game?[/quote]

    I hear that. Which reminds me of the Bulls court. It’s basically unchanged since the United Center opened in 1994: same trendy generic basketball logo at midcourt, same generic white font near the baselines. I’d like the old Chicago Stadium court, primarily red & sporting the official serif Bulls font near the baselines, just the Bulls logo at midcourt inside a red circle. Why they changed a superior court look, I don’t know.

  • Noelski y que! | March 4, 2009 at 1:16 pm |

    …but laguero is correct

  • mark | March 4, 2009 at 1:48 pm |

    PC stands for percent – if you do the math the PC column is the batting average

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 1:51 pm |

    “LA Goonies”?

    That would be the Clippers, wouldn’t it?

  • JTH | March 4, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”317077″][quote comment=”316995″]Ok, I am on the fence about this 76ers thing. I think the idea is a great idea in the sense of reliving memories for the fans and the organization. On the other hand in these tough times isnt it kinda stupid to waste the time creating a floor for ONE F-ing game?[/quote]

    I hear that. Which reminds me of the Bulls court. It’s basically unchanged since the United Center opened in 1994: same trendy generic basketball logo at midcourt, same generic white font near the baselines. I’d like the old Chicago Stadium court, primarily red & sporting the official serif Bulls font near the baselines, just the Bulls logo at midcourt inside a red circle. Why they changed a superior court look, I don’t know.[/quote]
    The Stadium also had the four smaller logos on either side of the free-throw lines. Supposedly, they were not going to be included on the UC’s court until the coaching staff objected. Reason? They used those logos for drawing up plays.

    I agree that the current court blows compared to the old one. The black outline doesn’t bother me so much (actually, I kind of like the way it contrasts with the red paint in the 3-second lane), but I hate that font. And that crappy basketball design behind the bull’s head at center court is an eyesore.

    With the Blackhawks, it’s a push. The logo filling the entire circle at center ice looks much better than the Stadium’s two tiny logos to either side of the center line. Unfortunately, the advertisements on the ice negate any aesthetic imporvement.

  • DenverGregg | March 4, 2009 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”317028″]Repeating a comment from yesterday — I posted it so late in the day that I think very few people saw it.

    Colorado Rapids have posted a photo gallery featuring their new 2009 kits here. (Click the link and then “2009 Rapids marketing photo shoot”).

    http://www.colorador

    Same basic colors and design as last year, but they’ve removed the “Rapids” wordmark from the home shirts and “Colorado” from the roadies, a pretty radical change. Only thing on the front now is the club crest (and of course the Adidas logo, alas). Hopefully that’s not just to clear space for the addition of a shirt sponsor.
    . . . .[/quote]
    Not as radical of a change as the two massive downgrades to the color scheme. It does look like they might be trolling for a shirt sponsor. Since they play at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, there are plenty of bad options available.

  • mike 2 | March 4, 2009 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”317065″][quote comment=”317006″]Interesting that there is no logo for the fledgling Capitals team on the bedspread…[/quote]

    I noticed that too. But the Kansas City Scouts, the other expansion team that year, do have a logo.[/quote]

    The Maple Leafs are also missing.

    (by my count, 16 of the 18 teams are there)

  • JTH | March 4, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”317080″]”LA Goonies”?

    That would be the Clippers, wouldn’t it?[/quote]
    Raiders?

  • concealed78 | March 4, 2009 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”317069″][quote comment=”317067″]I’m about 100% positive about this, but after looking at the Uni Watch glossary, since Reebok took over the NHL, I don’t think the Blackhawks have that fancy chain-stitching anymore, sadly. I hate Reebok so much.[/quote]

    It’s still there – they’re still assembled in Quebec for the authentics – and from what I have seen – there has been no change in the crests for any of the teams.[/quote]

    The NY Rangers had to alter their wordmark because of the new Reebok cuts, something about not being able to sew letters on a specific cloth section near the shoulders. I remember that being one of the biggest complaints about them, and that weird uneven hem cut.

  • Archshige | March 4, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    Did anyone else notice that the NHL comforter posted, was missing the Toronto Maple Leafs? I wonder what the reason is?

  • KilroyFSU | March 4, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    Don’t think anyone’s mentioned the black uniforms Florida State wore yesterday at Duke. I don’t like them, myself. The numbers were impossible to read on TV, and black isn’t an FSU color. Here’s a link to an article that contains a picture.

    http://nolesports.ta...

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”317082″][quote comment=”317028″]Repeating a comment from yesterday — I posted it so late in the day that I think very few people saw it.

    Colorado Rapids have posted a photo gallery featuring their new 2009 kits here. (Click the link and then “2009 Rapids marketing photo shoot”).

    http://www.colorador

    Same basic colors and design as last year, but they’ve removed the “Rapids” wordmark from the home shirts and “Colorado” from the roadies, a pretty radical change. Only thing on the front now is the club crest (and of course the Adidas logo, alas). Hopefully that’s not just to clear space for the addition of a shirt sponsor.
    . . . .[/quote]
    Not as radical of a change as the two massive downgrades to the color scheme. It does look like they might be trolling for a shirt sponsor. Since they play at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, there are plenty of bad options available.[/quote]
    Downgrade?

    Claret and blue are beautiful team colors, traditional to football, with the added advantage of being unique in MLS. I consider the colors to be the best part of their identity overhaul last year.

  • Mke | March 4, 2009 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”316995″]Ok, I am on the fence about this 76ers thing. I think the idea is a great idea in the sense of reliving memories for the fans and the organization. On the other hand in these tough times isnt it kinda stupid to waste the time creating a floor for ONE F-ing game?[/quote]

    Not only that, but tix are going to $150 in the lower level.

  • Tsuji | March 4, 2009 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”317086″]Did anyone else notice that the NHL comforter posted, was missing the Toronto Maple Leafs? I wonder what the reason is?[/quote]

    Harold Ballard (Toronto’s owner at the time) was an enormous dick. He probably demanded too much money to use the Leafs’ logo.

    Also, Washington was a brand new expansion team in 1974. They probably hadn’t unveiled their logo when this thing was made. The Kansas City Scouts were also a new team that year, but obviously they didn’t invest a whole lot of time designing that godawful logo.

  • Mke Lipinski | March 4, 2009 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”317089″][quote comment=”316995″]Ok, I am on the fence about this 76ers thing. I think the idea is a great idea in the sense of reliving memories for the fans and the organization. On the other hand in these tough times isnt it kinda stupid to waste the time creating a floor for ONE F-ing game?[/quote]

    Not only that, but tix are going to $150 in the lower level.[/quote]

    Correction mid/upper level.

  • Teebz | March 4, 2009 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”317085″][quote comment=”317069″][quote comment=”317067″]I’m about 100% positive about this, but after looking at the Uni Watch glossary, since Reebok took over the NHL, I don’t think the Blackhawks have that fancy chain-stitching anymore, sadly. I hate Reebok so much.[/quote]

    It’s still there – they’re still assembled in Quebec for the authentics – and from what I have seen – there has been no change in the crests for any of the teams.[/quote]

    The NY Rangers had to alter their wordmark because of the new Reebok cuts, something about not being able to sew letters on a specific cloth section near the shoulders. I remember that being one of the biggest complaints about them, and that weird uneven hem cut.[/quote]

    Rbk wouldn’t sew the letters across the seams of the jerseys. This, despite them putting the “C” and “A” on seams….

  • James Craven | March 4, 2009 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”317026″][b][i]”Looks like “stimulus package” is in the road to becoming the most overused advertising gimmick this side of Ebenezer Scrooge at Christmas. Ooops…sorry, the Holidays.”[/i][/b][/quote]

    Interesting thing: January through March birthdays get an April date, while October through December get a September game. BTW Ricko, are you drinking the Billo The Clown Flavor Ade on the whole “War on Christmas”? thing? It’s imaginary and it’s March for criminey’s sake!

  • joe | March 4, 2009 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”317067″]I’m about 100% positive about this, but after looking at the Uni Watch glossary, since Reebok took over the NHL, I don’t think the Blackhawks have that fancy chain-stitching anymore, sadly. I hate Reebok so much.[/quote]
    the real jersey are still the same stitching, the replicas are just about stickers though, not even flat stitching on those.

  • joe | March 4, 2009 at 3:30 pm |

    not only are the gears not connected, even if they were closer, they wouldn’t mesh correctly.

  • Ry Co 40 | March 4, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”317092″][quote comment=”317085″][quote comment=”317069″][quote comment=”317067″]I’m about 100% positive about this, but after looking at the Uni Watch glossary, since Reebok took over the NHL, I don’t think the Blackhawks have that fancy chain-stitching anymore, sadly. I hate Reebok so much.[/quote]

    It’s still there – they’re still assembled in Quebec for the authentics – and from what I have seen – there has been no change in the crests for any of the teams.[/quote]

    The NY Rangers had to alter their wordmark because of the new Reebok cuts, something about not being able to sew letters on a specific cloth section near the shoulders. I remember that being one of the biggest complaints about them, and that weird uneven hem cut.[/quote]

    Rbk wouldn’t sew the letters across the seams of the jerseys. This, despite them putting the “C” and “A” on seams….[/quote]

    and all star patches

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | March 4, 2009 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”317062″]I’m going to the Los Spurs vs. Los Mavericks tonight.

    I wish it was “Espuelas vs. Cubanos”[/quote]

    My thoughts exactly!! You can only use “Los” so much. Pinche NBA..Mas puto!

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | March 4, 2009 at 4:08 pm |

    Bryan, keep that head high!

  • hugh.c.mcbride | March 4, 2009 at 4:14 pm |

    Bryan: Just wanted to echo the others who’ve sent their best wishes & positive thoughts your way. You’re part of a noble & valuable profession, & I hope that your talents & experience allow you to transcend this temporary setback & ultimately create a better situation for you & your family.

  • Steve | March 4, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    Those NHL bedsheets…they do make mention of the Washington team, just no logo. Look under all of the Montreal logos, it says “Washington.”

  • Sammy | March 4, 2009 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”317063\”][quote comment=”317057″]The second picture of the Los Lakers against Memphis is Gasol vs Gasol. They look almost identical![/quote]

    My Spanish is seriously rusty, but shouldn’t those jerseys have said something like “Los Lagueros”?[/quote]

    Not necessarily. I remember having this discussion last year when they did the Noche Latina thing. IIRC, the Spanish-language broadcasts usually just put “Los” in front of the English nickname–Los Lakers, Los Suns, Los Spurs, etc. Typically, they don’t try to translate, so the teams don’t when they do the promotion.

    I remember a few exceptions: “Cerveceros” (Brewers), “Gigantes” (Giants), and, for some reason, “Seraphines” for the L.A. Angels. I guess “Los Angeles Angeles de Anaheim” would be stupid.

    On a side note, does anybody know why there are backslashes in front of my quotation marks when I copy and paste something when I forget to put in the anti-spam word?

  • Sammy | March 4, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”317073″] Secondly, just wondering how much they spent to have this logo designed. Couldn’t that tax money have been used for better things?[/quote]

    What, are graphic designers not deserving of economic stimulus?

    I do not mean that to me mean, just something to think about…

  • mrxmt | March 4, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    Two things.

    The Windows hockey jersey is likely from the annual Microsoft Hockey Challenge (Windows vs. Exchange or something similar). Probably got if off of Ebay. In fact, here is a similar jersey on Ebay.

    Also, on Jimmy Kimmel last night, he had a segment called the “Internet video of the day” which was a wierd Germany soccer uniform fashion show with dancing models. The most interesting piece was that a couple of the guys in the video looked to be wearing stirrups. As part of the gag, a guy came out on to the set and started dancing in a soccer uniform. He was also wearing stirrups.
    BTW, I don’t think Kimmel is going to last very long. The show just isn’t very funny.

  • DenverGregg | March 4, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”317088″][quote comment=”317082″][quote comment=”317028″]Repeating a comment from yesterday — I posted it so late in the day that I think very few people saw it.

    Colorado Rapids have posted a photo gallery featuring their new 2009 kits here. (Click the link and then “2009 Rapids marketing photo shoot”).

    http://www.colorador

    Same basic colors and design as last year, but they’ve removed the “Rapids” wordmark from the home shirts and “Colorado” from the roadies, a pretty radical change. Only thing on the front now is the club crest (and of course the Adidas logo, alas). Hopefully that’s not just to clear space for the addition of a shirt sponsor.
    . . . .[/quote]
    Not as radical of a change as the two massive downgrades to the color scheme. It does look like they might be trolling for a shirt sponsor. Since they play at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, there are plenty of bad options available.[/quote]
    Downgrade?

    Claret and blue are beautiful team colors, traditional to football, with the added advantage of being unique in MLS. I consider the colors to be the best part of their identity overhaul last year.[/quote]
    Green and white are better colors, traditional and unique too.

  • Boof | March 4, 2009 at 4:43 pm |

    Is it just me or is the Twins logo flawed? Look at the baseball stitching underneath the “Twins” script. Is that how the stitching is on a real baseball?

    I’ve been debating this with others and we’re about half and half.

  • Boof | March 4, 2009 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”317105″]Is it just me or is the Twins logo flawed? Look at the baseball stitching underneath the “Twins” script. Is that how the stitching is on a real baseball?

    I’ve been debating this with others and we’re about half and half.[/quote]

    Here is the logo that I was talking about.
    http://bleacherrepor...

  • BurghFan | March 4, 2009 at 4:53 pm |

    Also, on Jimmy Kimmel last night, he had a segment called the “Internet video of the day” which was a wierd Germany soccer uniform fashion show with dancing models. The most interesting piece was that a couple of the guys in the video looked to be wearing stirrups. As part of the gag, a guy came out on to the set and started dancing in a soccer uniform. He was also wearing stirrups.
    BTW, I don’t think Kimmel is going to last very long. The show just isn’t very funny.

    That was Jimmy Fallon, not Jimmy Kimmel. And give him a few months before you draw any conclusions. You may still feel the same way, but these shows need some time to figure out what works.

  • LI Phil | March 4, 2009 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”317106″][quote comment=”317105″]Is it just me or is the Twins logo flawed? Look at the baseball stitching underneath the “Twins” script. Is that how the stitching is on a real baseball?

    I’ve been debating this with others and we’re about half and half.[/quote]

    Here is the logo that I was talking about.
    http://bleacherrepor...

    wow…nice spot!

    no, now that you mention it, it is NOT correct…looking at a baseball, you’d never see an “s” curve as depicted in the twins logo…it would appear like this; even viewed from another angle, where the “s curve” does appear, it would NOT appear that way at the angle the “TWINS” logo appears

    /that’s gonna bother me for a while, now..thanks

  • mrxmt | March 4, 2009 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”317107″]
    That was Jimmy Fallon, not Jimmy Kimmel. And give him a few months before you draw any conclusions. You may still feel the same way, but these shows need some time to figure out what works.[/quote]

    Yeah, I just realized that I said Kimmel instead of Fallon about 10 seconds before your post. Too many Jimmy’s!!!

    I think he is trying to hard to be like Conan in some areas. He should stick to what made him funny on SNL. His interview with Tina Fey was the first time he didn’t look scared to death.

  • Chuck | March 4, 2009 at 5:04 pm |

    I like the term Bettman Stripes in the uni-centric glossary, but I call them Bettman Stripemares! :-)

  • Lomion | March 4, 2009 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”317095″]not only are the gears not connected, even if they were closer, they wouldn’t mesh correctly.[/quote]
    This is just echoing what has already been said, but why are we demanding photo-realism from logos all of a sudden? Is it because it’s a government logo, and we all want to be able to scream “boondoggle!” and “bureaucratic incompetance!” at the first possible moment? Do we think government logos should be held to a higher standard or something? It’s still just a logo, people.

  • Husul | March 4, 2009 at 5:23 pm |

    Sorry if this is a repeat but the patch on Team Canada’s sleeve is a hardware chain in Canada.

    TORONTO, Feb. 27 /CNW/ – ….As part of the Team Canada sponsorship, the Home Hardware logo will
    appear on the official on-field uniform sleeve of Team Canada’s home and road
    jerseys during the World Baseball Classic…..

    http://www.newswire....

    Singer Avril Lavine wore a t-shirt with that logo and her hometowns’s name on, I think, SNL. It caused all kinds of crazy Home Hardware logo demand for het fans.

    http://cgi.cafr.ebay...|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

  • JTH | March 4, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”317108″][quote comment=”317106″][quote comment=”317105″]Is it just me or is the Twins logo flawed? Look at the baseball stitching underneath the “Twins” script. Is that how the stitching is on a real baseball?

    I’ve been debating this with others and we’re about half and half.[/quote]

    Here is the logo that I was talking about.
    http://bleacherrepor...

    wow…nice spot!

    no, now that you mention it, it is NOT correct…looking at a baseball, you’d never see an “s” curve as depicted in the twins logo…it would appear like this; even viewed from another angle, where the “s curve” does appear, it would NOT appear that way at the angle the “TWINS” logo appears

    /that’s gonna bother me for a while, now..thanks[/quote]
    side-by-side

  • Husul | March 4, 2009 at 5:30 pm |

    The actual Avril Lavigne t-shirt is from a girls soccer team sponsored by Home Hardware…
    which ties in with this old story.

    http://www.mtv.com/n...

  • Dennis | March 4, 2009 at 5:31 pm |

    Looking through some old USFL programs I found a FNOB from the 1984 Champ game.
    Hopefully it has not been posted before.

    http://drjwtexas.com...

    Dennis

  • Dennis | March 4, 2009 at 5:33 pm |

    2nd try

  • Perry | March 4, 2009 at 6:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”317104″][quote comment=”317088″][quote comment=”317082″][quote comment=”317028″]Repeating a comment from yesterday — I posted it so late in the day that I think very few people saw it.

    Colorado Rapids have posted a photo gallery featuring their new 2009 kits here. (Click the link and then “2009 Rapids marketing photo shoot”).

    http://www.colorador

    Same basic colors and design as last year, but they’ve removed the “Rapids” wordmark from the home shirts and “Colorado” from the roadies, a pretty radical change. Only thing on the front now is the club crest (and of course the Adidas logo, alas). Hopefully that’s not just to clear space for the addition of a shirt sponsor.
    . . . .[/quote]
    Not as radical of a change as the two massive downgrades to the color scheme. It does look like they might be trolling for a shirt sponsor. Since they play at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, there are plenty of bad options available.[/quote]
    Downgrade?

    Claret and blue are beautiful team colors, traditional to football, with the added advantage of being unique in MLS. I consider the colors to be the best part of their identity overhaul last year.[/quote]
    Green and white are better colors, traditional and unique too.[/quote]

    The green and white were nice, and sort of evoked the Colorado mountains and yes, rapids. Blue and black evoked nothing but Inter Milan, but did look cool in their own right. But I like the burgundy/blue too, and obviously so does Stan Kroenke, since he has the Avalanche wear them as well.

  • jason | March 4, 2009 at 6:16 pm |

    What the flip is a Hip Hop and the Hare Raisers?
    That goddamn San Diego Chicken is to blame for all this foolishness.
    Speaking of bad mascots, anyone ever find a good picture of the San Francisco Crazy Crab? It would be an interesting interview if anyone could ever find the poor guy that wore that thing for the one game it lasted. I was just a little kid but I remember the Crazy Crab getting kicked and spit on.

  • chance | March 4, 2009 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”317104″][quote comment=”317088″][quote comment=”317082″][quote comment=”317028″]Repeating a comment from yesterday — I posted it so late in the day that I think very few people saw it.

    Colorado Rapids have posted a photo gallery featuring their new 2009 kits here. (Click the link and then “2009 Rapids marketing photo shoot”).

    http://www.colorador

    Same basic colors and design as last year, but they’ve removed the “Rapids” wordmark from the home shirts and “Colorado” from the roadies, a pretty radical change. Only thing on the front now is the club crest (and of course the Adidas logo, alas). Hopefully that’s not just to clear space for the addition of a shirt sponsor.
    . . . .[/quote]
    Not as radical of a change as the two massive downgrades to the color scheme. It does look like they might be trolling for a shirt sponsor. Since they play at Dick’s Sporting Goods Park, there are plenty of bad options available.[/quote]
    Downgrade?

    Claret and blue are beautiful team colors, traditional to football, with the added advantage of being unique in MLS. I consider the colors to be the best part of their identity overhaul last year.[/quote]
    Green and white are better colors, traditional and unique too.[/quote]
    Better colors? I’ll have to disagree. Solid colors, and good ones. But claret and blue are sublime.

    And green is already represented in MLS. And when the Portland Timbers start play, there will be a green and white team.

  • Sultmhoor | March 4, 2009 at 6:55 pm |

    You know, you’ve mentioned stirrups being worn the “wrong” way before (taller arch in front, right?) – what’s the reasoning or source of the tradition for the “right” way?

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 7:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”317093″][quote comment=”317026″][b][i]”Looks like “stimulus package” is in the road to becoming the most overused advertising gimmick this side of Ebenezer Scrooge at Christmas. Ooops…sorry, the Holidays.”[/i][/b][/quote]

    Interesting thing: January through March birthdays get an April date, while October through December get a September game. BTW Ricko, are you drinking the Billo The Clown Flavor Ade on the whole “War on Christmas”? thing? It’s imaginary and it’s March for criminey’s sake![/quote]

    Not at all. Was just thinking of overused advertising cliches. I promised myself long ago that I would NEVER write any kind of ad copy that featured Scrooge (unless it was for A CHRISTMAS CAROL, of course), so that one always leaps to the front of my mind.

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”317120″]You know, you’ve mentioned stirrups being worn the “wrong” way before (taller arch in front, right?) – what’s the reasoning or source of the tradition for the “right” way?[/quote]

    Higher in back to not cut cross Achilles tendon.

  • The Hemogoblin | March 4, 2009 at 8:26 pm |

    Brian, my condolences. I just lost my chance to freelance for my school’s newspaper because of this. I (somewhat) feel your pain. Good luck, man.

  • Patrick in MI | March 4, 2009 at 9:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”317109″][quote comment=”317107″]
    That was Jimmy Fallon, not Jimmy Kimmel. And give him a few months before you draw any conclusions. You may still feel the same way, but these shows need some time to figure out what works.[/quote]

    Yeah, I just realized that I said Kimmel instead of Fallon about 10 seconds before your post. Too many Jimmy’s!!!

    I think he is trying to hard to be like Conan in some areas. He should stick to what made him funny on SNL. His interview with Tina Fey was the first time he didn’t look scared to death.[/quote]

    He was funny on SNL?

  • KevinW | March 4, 2009 at 9:02 pm |

    not sure if anyone has written this yet, but Knicks at home wearing ‘NUEVA YORK’ jerseys tonight.

  • Paul Lukas | March 4, 2009 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”317120″]You know, you’ve mentioned stirrups being worn the “wrong” way before (taller arch in front, right?) – what’s the reasoning or source of the tradition for the “right” way?[/quote]

    Coupla things:

    First, something that’s lower in the front and higher in the back presents a sense of forward motion.

    Second, your leg is bulge-y toward the back, because of your calf, but it’s flat/straight/etc. in the front, so the wider opening in the back helps accommodate the added musclulature.

  • Paul | March 4, 2009 at 9:43 pm |

    BYU @ Wyoming right now on the MTN, all of the Wyoming cheerleaders are wearing a garter that looks to be part of their actual uniform (it matches the rest of the brown and yellow they’re wearing). I can’t say I’ve ever seen that before.

  • LI Phil | March 4, 2009 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”317127″]BYU @ Wyoming right now on the MTN, all of the Wyoming cheerleaders are wearing a garter that looks to be part of their actual uniform (it matches the rest of the brown and yellow they’re wearing). I can’t say I’ve ever seen that before.[/quote]

    pics?

  • Paul | March 4, 2009 at 9:52 pm |

    Sorry, no dvr and I don’t see any game photos on the web yet.

  • The Hemogoblin | March 4, 2009 at 9:57 pm |

    To anyone who has the UNC-VT game on TiVo:

    With a couple of minutes to go, the announcers were ranting and raving about how Hansbrough had a hole on the back of his jersey, and how it signified his tough style of play.

  • JTH | March 4, 2009 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”317129″]Sorry, no dvr and I don’t see any game photos on the web yet.[/quote]
    No game photos, but…
    scroll down to the last 2 pics.

  • LI Phil | March 4, 2009 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”317131″][quote comment=”317129″]Sorry, no dvr and I don’t see any game photos on the web yet.[/quote]
    No game photos, but…
    scroll down to the last 2 pics.[/quote]

    right on top of things, eh james?

    post of the evening ;)

  • Ricko | March 4, 2009 at 10:32 pm |

    When I said earlier that the high stirrup in back was to avoid cutting across the Achilles, I meant way, way back…when the sanis were barely visible at all.

    Look at a foot in profile. Imagine a very, very early stirrup sock, cut in front just across the top of the instep. Now imagine the rear stirrup cut the same height. The back one cuts across the Achilles tendon and, in fact, is even so low as to be inside the heel of a typical shoe. That was a blister waiting to happen (and they did), and we don’t want blisters. Especially not with dyed, colored socks rubbing against them. Eventually they figured out that cutting the back stirrup slightly higher to reach above the shoe would elminate that situation.

    That’s how it started, and as socks got a bit higher, the tradition held. Then as socks got pulled even higher and higher, the difference in the cut just became more and more noticeable.

    Orginally, though, it was all about—and nothing more than—keeping the colored sock out of blister area, and that required a different configuration, front and back.

    And I know about that which I am speaking about. :) My first pair of stirrups were thick wool and very, very low and my dad ‘splained it to be. And, by golly, he was right. When you put ’em on properly, only the sani came in contact with the shoe at the tongue and at the back of the heel.

    —Ricko

  • Kyle@IU | March 4, 2009 at 11:02 pm |

    Yeah, I remember the good ol’ days of the 76ers when they had that awesome, old school WACHOVIA LOGO ON THEIR COURT! Their name is all over the Wachovia Center and the Spectrum but they can’t be bothered to actually honor a throwback court design by leaving their freaking name off of it?! That, my friends…is logo creep.

    I know they don’t do many events in the Astrodome anymore, but I wonder how many Reliant logos would pop up there.

  • Terri | March 4, 2009 at 11:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”317123″]Brian, my condolences. I just lost my chance to freelance for my school’s newspaper because of this. I (somewhat) feel your pain. Good luck, man.[/quote]

    I gotta give your editors a hand for standing up for themselves- as a journalism student (so I’ll be unemployed as of my May 9th graduation), and a former memeber of my school paper’s editorial staff, I not only agree with them but think it takes a lot of balls to stand up to the board like that. Hope they win.

  • James Craven | March 4, 2009 at 11:27 pm |

    I also saw another Ad Creep for the WBC, this time on La Republcana Dominacana jerseys. Any pix?

  • Jason | March 4, 2009 at 11:30 pm |

    Bryan, hope you land on your feet really quickly. And that is one cute little kid!

  • Johnny O | March 4, 2009 at 11:42 pm |

    BREAKING NEWS OUT OF WISCONSIN:

    It was just announced on the Madison evening news that the Wisconsin Badgers Men’s hockey team will play the Michigan Wolverines on February 6, 2010 at Camp Randall Stadium! Outdoor hockey is coming back to Wisconsin! (The Badgers and Buckeyes played at Lambeau Field a few years back in the Frozen Tundra Hockey Classic)

    Also…where do you think the Badger football team got their inspiration for their “Spring Ball” logo?
    http://www.uwbadgers...

  • LI Phil | March 4, 2009 at 11:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”317138″]
    Also…where do you think the Badger football team got their inspiration for their “Spring Ball” logo?
    http://www.uwbadgers...

    be funny in the nfl sued them the way the bastids badgers sue the high schools who “appropriate” their “motion w”

    /actually, would be poetic justice

  • interlockingtc | March 5, 2009 at 12:58 am |

    Spencer, Seattle…wonderful.

  • BullManUGA | March 5, 2009 at 4:46 am |

    The first game of the WBC is on and China’s manager has FNOB:

  • BullManUGA | March 5, 2009 at 4:48 am |

    That didn’t work. Here:

    http://img160.images...

  • chance | March 5, 2009 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”317139″][quote comment=”317138″]
    Also…where do you think the Badger football team got their inspiration for their “Spring Ball” logo?
    http://www.uwbadgers...

    be funny in the nfl sued them the way the bastids badgers sue the high schools who “appropriate” their “motion w”

    /actually, would be poetic justice[/quote]

    Yes, it would. Theft is theft.

  • Mark Nemec | March 5, 2009 at 11:18 pm |

    Long time reader, first time poster. The Kings blue logo on the bed spread might have been simply a misunderstanding on the manufacturer’s part. Jack Kent Cooke, owner of both the Kings and the Lakers in this period hated the word “purple” and insisted his teams’ colors were “forum blue and gold”. Growing up in Los Angeles, I still remember Bill Miller, the Kings announcer, and Chick Hearn, the Lakers announcer, describing the two teams taking the ice and court in their “forum blue” uniforms. There is actually a good story about it this appropriately titled website: http://www.forumblue...

  • Michael Grady | March 6, 2009 at 2:20 pm |

    The Baylor game with Colorado with the NNOB unis was done the same way as the green jerseys against Texas. It may look like doo-doo to you, but I liked the change, especially if it will make the Bears play like a team.