Auction Action

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This can’t be a very good time to be in the auction business. With the economy in free-fall, who’s gonna drop serious coin on pricey memorabilia? Maybe that’s why the Leland’s folks have stopped sending me their catalogs (as much a shame for them as for me, since I was always happy to pimp for them). Anyway, my ears perked up when Wyatt Silverman recently got in touch and said his dad had come home from the Super Bowl with a 96-page auction catalog filled with good stuff. First he offered to scan some of the pages for me, but it soon became apparent that that wasn’t gonna be a good system (“What specifically should I scan? … I have a SLOW scanner, ha-ha. … I just hope the piece of crap works to be honest…”), so I asked if the catalog listed a URL for the auction. Bingo.

Sure enough, there’s a ton of worthwhile material here. Allow me to give you a guided tour:

• Here’s something you don’t often see: a Browns jersey from their ill-fated orange numbers period.

• Love the little illustrations on these cards.

• I’ve occasionally written about old-fashioned nose guards like the one being worn by the chap at upper-left. But I don’t think I’ve ever seen one for sale before.

Bernard Hopkins would dig this executioner-style helmet/mask. Note the faded Rawlings logo, too.

• Check out this primitive early facemask.

• Whatever you think of the Michigan-style helmet pattern, you’ve gotta agree that it looks better in red, white, and blue.

• The auction house apparently acquired a bunch of stuff from someone who had a serious boner for Norm Van Brocklin. There’s an assortment of interesting NVB-related materials here, one of his old helmets here (love the printing on the rubber crown insert), and — the prize of the entire auction — an early radio-equipped helmet from the 1950s. A major find.

• Despite the presence of a certain loathsome color, this has got to be history’s coolest Super Bowl souvenir.

• No, wait a minute — this is.

Best. Scoreboard. Ever.

Best. Corn. Syrup. Can. Ever.

• Did you realize Red Grange was such an icon that they made dolls in his likeness? And apparently his likeness was pretty creepy-looking.

• I’m a sucker for the words “stadium blanket,” even when applied to something as relatively plain as this.

• The Ice Bowl wasn’t just a game for the ages — it also featured a really excellent program cover.

• Man, you never saw black bobbleheads back in the early 1960s. Love the shoulder stars, too.

• I’d never seen these stickers before. Does anyone know more about this series?

• I can’t decide which sideline jacket I like best: Redskins, Bears (that chest patch!), or Chargers.

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February Raffle, Round 2: Our second raffle of the month comes via the folks at Diadora and Shopatron, who are offering a freebie from their line of soccer club jackets. The interesting thing about these jackets is that names on the front are the names used by the locals to describe their team — “Red Devils” instead of Manchester United, for example (as for the others, Rossoneri = AC Milan, Azzurri = Italian national team, El Tri = Mexican national team, and Aguilas = Club América, a Mexican club team). Cool, right? The winner will get his or her choice of jacket design and size.

To enter, send a blank e-mail with your name in the subject line to the raffle address (not to the usual Uni Watch e-mail address, please) by this Thursday, February 12th, at 10pm eastern. One entry per person, but anyone enrolled in the Uni Watch membership program at the time of the drawing can send four entries. I’ll announce the winner on Friday.

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Speaking of the membership program, we’ve added a bunch of new designs to the card gallery (including Greg Riffenburgh’s shout-out to his own high school football jersey as seen at right), and we’ll be adding a few more within the next day or so. Keep ’em coming, etc., etc.

Research Project: Many of you saw this query over the weekend, but for those who didn’t check the site on Saturday or Sunday: Anyone out there ever submit an unsolicited uniform or logo proposal to a team? If so, did you ever hear back from the team’s front office (even if only via a “No thanks” form letter), or did you get no response? I’m not talking about submitting an entry for a contest being run by a team or local newspaper — I mean a completely unsolicited design that you created and submitted just because you felt like it. If you’ve been through this sort of experience, I want to hear from you. Thanks.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Saw The Panic in Needle Park at Film Forum the other night. Hated it (junkies are sooooo boring) but was intrigued by several shots that showed a red-topped mailbox (here’s another view), which made me wonder if there’s a site showing the history of U.S. mailbox “uniforms.” Some preliminary research suggests that no such site exists, but somebody should create one. … The Astros and Mariners both have 10th-anniversary logos for their respective stadia appearing on their web sites. To my knowledge, these are not slated to be worn as sleeve patches. … The Chargers have unveiled a 50th-anniversary logo. Further news about the NFL’s plans to celebrate its AFL heritage here. … The U. of Wisconsin will end its relationship with Russell Athletic due to the latter’s unfair labor practices. … Douchebag alert (with thanks to Chris Weber). … Reprinted from Friday’s comments: Here’s Navy with SLOB (slogan on back). Looks like the helmets may have NOBs, though. … What’s even better than a uniform style guide? A New York City subway style guide. Click through the whole gallery — looks amazing (great find by Manzell Blakeley). … Big gallery of the 2009 Sprint Cup Series paint schemes here (with thanks to Kevin Kurz). … Scott Little‘s Triangle Bowl was recently the site of a 300 game — by a double-amputee. … I don’t know what EuroBasket 2011 is, but they have a new logo (with thanks to Mike Camello). … Helmet cart alert! That’s from a big set of photos taken at a 1979 Oilers/Eagles game. Highlights include the Oilers’ “Roughneck” mascot, a great shot of double-zero, and the ever-popular Derrick Dolls (courtesy of David Allen). … Lots of good sports-related illustrations to be found by clicking through this portfolio (with thanks to Eric Westover). … Some of you may know the story of Indians pitcher Johnny Allen and his controversial sleeve. The account in that book mentions that the shirt ended up on a mannequin in a Cleveland department store window. I’d heard that story before but hadn’t seen the mannequin until Vince recently sent me this (plus he also sent me this killer shot of old Indians aprons). … ESPN inadvertently gave the Lakers a new logo the other day (good spot by Todd Peak). … The Gamecocks may bring Sterling Sharpe’s number out of retirement (with thanks to Scott Moody). … Good thing ESPN isn’t headquarted in Intercourse, Pennsylvania. … Douchebags. … I don’t much care for the new Tropicana OJ package graphics, but I admit I’m a total sucker for the new navel orange-shaped plastic cap. … Not sure how we all missed this. That’s the Kalamazoo Wings’ recent Golden Ice [and Arches] Night, which took place way back on Jan. 31st. … Interesting blast from the Pro Bowl past: Ronnie Lott wearing Jordan IVs (with thanks to Scott Debson). … DIY update from Dan Casazza, who writes: “That is me on the left on Halloween, in my DIY Keith Hernandez jersey. It’s pretty crude — it was made in one afternoon with markers and taped-off pinstripes. I scored the outline of the Mets logo and traced it onto the shirt. Everything else was eyeballed. What it lacks in cleanliness it makes up for in heart and reverence for a fine first baseman and a long-lost twin of my father.” … Kirsten and I poured ourselves two glasses of oatmeal stout the other day and were surprised to see the foam bubbles create a turkey and a snow angel. … Alan Reifman has started a new blog about basketball court design. … I was off the grid all weekend and didn’t see the Pro Bowl, but it looks like they came up with their usual train wreck, right on schedule. Full photo gallery here. … I’ve mentioned Tony Crocker’s long sleeves several times, but I hadn’t seen an explanation for them until Dan Bewley sent me this. … What’s with the mask? “That’s Yomiuri Giants rookie Taishi Ōta,” says Jeremy Brahm. “The team is teaching him to hit the inside pitch, so he’s wearing the mask to keep him from getting hurt.” … Also from Jeremy: “According to this article, the ball being used for the World Baseball classic is 146 grams, while the official NPB (Japan) ball weighs 145 grams. The Japanese press is thinking that this could wreak havoc on the Japanese players. Some players have said that it is heavier and slips easily when compared to the Japanese ball. The Rawlings made ball is dry or dehydrated, which causes it to slip, whereas the Japanese ball is moist. The Rawlings ball also had wider stitching than the Japanese ball.” … And speaking of the WBC, Jeremy reports that Dice-K will be wearing these shoes (but hopefully not those pants), complete with the little Japanese flag. … Here’s something you don’t often see: Joe Namath in a two-bar facemask. That photo comes from this book, which I hadn’t been aware of until Keith Goggin scanned a bunch of its pages for me. A slideshow of his scans, which I highly recommend, is here. … “Newcastle United forward Peter Løvenkrands had a double whammy done on his NOB for his appearance against West Bromwich Albion Saturday,” writes David J. Walker. “Not only did they change his ‘ø’ to an ‘o,’ but they misspelled the end of his name.” … Has Daniel Gibson always had stars shaved into his head? (Screen grab courtesy of John Okray.) … Photo gallery of “ugly stadiums” (although most of them don’t seem so bad to me) here (with thanks to Matthew Algeo). … Well, that didn’t take long (as designed by Reid Tynan). … Interesting hockey headwear on display — along with some killer sleeve stripes — here (with thanks to Matt Fedorka). … Paul McCartney plays bass and guitar left-handed but apparently bats right-handed. Meanwhile, John Lennon was way ahead of the black-uni curve. … Austin Gillis recently acquired this poster of Dale Murphy wielding a light sabre/bat — cool enough, except that the Braves’ powder blue road design didn’t feature the team name on the chest, so the team never actually wore the uni Murphy’s wearing in the poster photo. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Want to see a really subtle uniform detail? Look at this. That comes from this excellent Flyers uni-history page. The same site also has a good survey of the team’s goalie masks. … Phil‘s corner: Texas State has unveiled new baseball uniforms. … A Cleveland clomnist thinks all the city’s teams should wear the same colors. … More Cleveland uni chatter here. … Fun article about U. of Tennessee football uniforms here. … Not sure I’ve seen a hoops team wearing camouflage before. That’s the Sioux Falls Skyforce, a D-League team.

 

156 comments to Auction Action

  • Jonathan Sluss | February 9, 2009 at 8:26 am |

    I have one of those vinyl stickers (the Joe Namath one) at my parents house somewhere!, actually it’s my brother’s but still, I had no idea that a set of those could fetch so much money. I wonder if there are more laying around the house somewhere

  • mao | February 9, 2009 at 8:30 am |

    Sterling Sharpe’s number will not be un-retired. Alshon Jeffery will wear no. 1 instead of Sharpe’s no. 2. Spurrier screwed and up and didn’t realize that the retired player’s permission has to be givin in order to bring back a number.

    http://www.thestate....

  • LI Phil | February 9, 2009 at 8:39 am |

    [quote]Scott Little’s Triangle Bowl was recently the site of a 300 game — by a double-amputee.[/quote]

    pfft…he’s cheatin’…i mean — LOOK at those superman legs

  • shadoquad | February 9, 2009 at 8:42 am |

    typo in the ticker: “Spring Cup”. I assume you mean “Sprint Cup”.

  • Paul Lukas | February 9, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    [quote comment="314096"]typo in the ticker: “Spring Cup”. I assume you mean “Sprint Cup”.[/quote]

    Thanks. Now fixed.

  • Kevin G. | February 9, 2009 at 8:54 am |

    Paul, I’m disappointed you didn’t point out that this will be the Chargers 50th season. 2010 will actually be their 50th anniversary, so the patch is incorrect.

  • Steven | February 9, 2009 at 8:57 am |

    That “headgear/sleeve stripes” Bruins/Leafs picture is one of the few shots I have seen of the Bruins’ yellow pants days.

  • Flip | February 9, 2009 at 8:58 am |

    Each weekend it seem as though a new college team is sporting the new Nike SOD uniforms. Initially, I liked the top, but the template is getting a little old.

    Just wondering: If this fabric is so super-duper, are any pro teams wearing it? Is it available in any other uniform style beside SOD. You’d think if it’s that superior, the pros would latch on to it quickly. Otherwise, it must just be marketing.

  • Hitch | February 9, 2009 at 9:01 am |

    Not sure how we all missed this. That’s the Kalamazoo Wings’ recent Golden Ice [and Arches] Night, which took place way back on Jan. 31st.

    Dead link

  • Original Jim | February 9, 2009 at 9:02 am |

    That’s an interesting looking scoreboard in the Leland’s auction. Not sure how old it really is though. The description says c. 1920, but it’s definitely been refurbished and repainted a number of times. Helvetica is the font used on most of it, and it wasn’t designed until the 1950s. Even the Grotesk fonts Helvetica was based on weren’t readily available like that in the 20s.

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment="314102"]That’s an interesting looking scoreboard in the Leland’s auction. Not sure how old it really is though. The description says c. 1920, but it’s definitely been refurbished and repainted a number of times. Helvetica is the font used on most of it, and it wasn’t designed until the 1950s. Even the Grotesk fonts Helvetica was based on weren’t readily available like that in the 20s.[/quote]

    I think when that scoreboard was new it was hyped as a “new, state-of-the-art multi-dollar scoreboard.”

    —Ricko

  • Jeremy Brahm | February 9, 2009 at 9:07 am |

    The EPL has never used Norwegian or Danish vowels on their uniforms. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer did not have the combined “AE” on his uniform with Manchester United.

  • Paul Lukas | February 9, 2009 at 9:11 am |

    [quote comment="314098"]Paul, I’m disappointed you didn’t point out that this will be the Chargers 50th season. 2010 will actually be their 50th anniversary, so the patch is incorrect.[/quote]

    Franchise was founded in 1959. That’s the basis for the whole AFL 50th-anni thing.

  • Kevin G. | February 9, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment="314105"][quote comment="314098"]Paul, I’m disappointed you didn’t point out that this will be the Chargers 50th season. 2010 will actually be their 50th anniversary, so the patch is incorrect.[/quote]

    Franchise was founded in 1959. That’s the basis for the whole AFL 50th-anni thing.[/quote]
    I thought that might be the case, but then why would they show the year 1960 on the patch?

  • Paul Lukas | February 9, 2009 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment="314101"]Not sure how we all missed this. That’s the Kalamazoo Wings’ recent Golden Ice [and Arches] Night, which took place way back on Jan. 31st.

    Dead link[/quote]

    Now fixed.

  • kj | February 9, 2009 at 9:18 am |

    I’m not sure how DSG Park in Colorado qualifies as ugly. To me, that roof element is very cool.

  • Noah Sidel | February 9, 2009 at 9:22 am |

    Montreal has had all its major teams wearing red, white and blue since the 1970s… The Canadiens have been red, white and blue forever, as we all know… The Expos wore red, white and blue for their entire existence… And in the CFL, the Montreal Alouettes switched to red, white and blue in the mid-70s in order to fit the scheme.

  • Anthony | February 9, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    Re: TICKER

    Ordinarily, I love your stuff, but I have to call you on this one:

    Who’s the moron? The moron with the bad idea? Or the moron who doesn’t bother to read the whole story and misrepresents the author’s intent?

    Look at the 11th paragraph, where she states: “I am informed that no other city’s sports teams shares this strategy, other than our hated neighbors to the southeast, who are guilty of over-accessorizing their famous black and gold.”

    Don’t rush to judgment without doing your due diligence first.

  • Kieran | February 9, 2009 at 9:26 am |

    Just wanted to post a comment about one of Uni Watch’s sponsors.

    I bought a print and poster from Sports Propaganda last week and they’re awesome. The print is absolutely gorgeous and well worth the money.

    The poster got damaged in shipping but Chris Speakman was able to send me another one for just the cost of shipping.

    I will definitely be buying more from him in the future.

    (This sounds like a paid endorsement, but believe me, it isn’t. I just really like the stuff that I ordered from him and the customer service that he provided.)

  • Daver | February 9, 2009 at 9:28 am |

    I think the idea of Cleveland’s (or any city’s) teams wearing the same colors is a good one. Its not going to happen for Cleveland, but it is a fun idea. It creates an identity for the city, much like it does for a college. I know each pro franchise is its own company and can decide what they want. But that’s what makes it cool — if a baseball owner, for example, said he was changing colors to those of the football team because he knows fans love to root for the Color A and Color B, that’s something I can go along with.

    Also, the writer is very aware that Pittsburgh teams all wear the same colors. She references it in the article (“hated neighbors to the southeast”).

  • Taha | February 9, 2009 at 9:31 am |

    Lions officially discard their (imho fugly) black alternate jerseys according to this article from Mlive.com

  • Paul Lukas | February 9, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment="314110"]Re: TICKER

    Ordinarily, I love your stuff, but I have to call you on this one:

    Who’s the moron? The moron with the bad idea? Or the moron who doesn’t bother to read the whole story and misrepresents the author’s intent?

    Look at the 11th paragraph, where she states: “I am informed that no other city’s sports teams shares this strategy, other than our hated neighbors to the southeast, who are guilty of over-accessorizing their famous black and gold.”

    Don’t rush to judgment without doing your due diligence first.[/quote]

    Touché. Mea culpa.

  • Tom V | February 9, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment="314097"][quote comment="314096"]typo in the ticker: “Spring Cup”. I assume you mean “Sprint Cup”.[/quote]

    Thanks. Now fixed.[/quote]

    Jayski.com also has many many paint schemes past and present.

    As well, (for the non-NASCAR group here) drivers usually have 4 or 5 schemes a year with, sometimes with different sponsers.

  • Richard Stover | February 9, 2009 at 9:40 am |

    1965 Los Angeles teams all wore blue and white.

  • Giancarlo | February 9, 2009 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment="314116"]1965 Los Angeles teams all wore blue and white.[/quote]
    Except for the LA Angels.

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment="314116"]1965 Los Angeles teams all wore blue and white.[/quote]

    By golly, they did, didn’t they. Lakers still in Mpls. colors and Rams in their “no-gold” period.

  • Bopper | February 9, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    Other towns in Pennsylvania near Intercourse: Paradise, Bird-In-Hand, Blue Ball, and Virginville.

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment="314117"][quote comment="314116"]1965 Los Angeles teams all wore blue and white.[/quote]
    Except for the LA Angels.[/quote]

    Oh, boy, now the geographic technicalities debate comes around, I suppose. When did Angels vacate Chavez Ravine (that’s what they called Dodger Stadium, as did everyone until the thing was actually christened) for Anaheim?

    But, ultimately, you’re right. We overlooked the Angels. Unless of course someone wants to count the red Dodgers’ jersey numbers as “trim”, and likewise for the Angels red.

    re: Chavez Ravine. That name was used SO much, in reference to the site, that I always thought they should have clung to it some. Y’know, like Oriole Park at Camden Yards. Dodger Stadium at Chavez Ravine.

    —Ricko

  • Giancarlo | February 9, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    LA Angels to Anaheim in 1966. In fact, that’s something Dressed to the Nines gets wrong – they were still the LA Angels in ’65.

  • Robert in Dallas | February 9, 2009 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment="314115"][quote comment="314097"][quote comment="314096"]typo in the ticker: “Spring Cup”. I assume you mean “Sprint Cup”.[/quote]

    Thanks. Now fixed.[/quote]

    Jayski.com also has many many paint schemes past and present.

    As well, (for the non-NASCAR group here) drivers usually have 4 or 5 schemes a year with, sometimes with different sponsers.[/quote]

    Jayski’s paint scheme pages are top notch.

    NASCAR drivers’ multiple schemes (frequently, but not always, necessitated by different primary sponsors for a given race) provide the added benefit of creating additional die-cast cars to be sold to loyal fans . . . sort of like a baseball team using an alternate jersey.

  • Lomion | February 9, 2009 at 10:09 am |

    Man, this is a great entry, you’re totally stopping me from getting, you know, work done.

    Some of the Auction stuff is especially good. Glad to see that the Redskins’ jacket lived up to its expected price.

  • Kurt | February 9, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    Like the ESPN typo, but can you roll enough basketballs out for Kobe Bryant AND Larry Fitzgerald – and I don’t think Anquan Boldin would have any interest at being a #3 option, he and Phil would be going at it on the bench.

  • Johnny O | February 9, 2009 at 10:22 am |

    I know this has been mentioned on here before, but I really think a full day should be dedicated to Ryan Moore on the PGA Tour for going logoless this year and buying all his clothes and clubs himself. Here is a great article on why he is doing it.

    http://content.usato...

  • M.Princip | February 9, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment="314113"]Lions officially discard their (imho fugly) black alternate jerseys according to this article from Mlive.com[/quote]

    An attempt at exorcising Millen’s black as well:

    http://www.michaelpr...

  • Peter | February 9, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment="314106"][quote comment="314105"][quote comment="314098"]Paul, I’m disappointed you didn’t point out that this will be the Chargers 50th season. 2010 will actually be their 50th anniversary, so the patch is incorrect.[/quote]

    Franchise was founded in 1959. That’s the basis for the whole AFL 50th-anni thing.[/quote]
    I thought that might be the case, but then why would they show the year 1960 on the patch?[/quote]

    Because 1960 IS thier first season…do the math

    1960 – 1969 is 10 Full Years

  • xyz | February 9, 2009 at 10:33 am |

    If you check out the other photos of the Oilers /Eagles game there is a photo of #55 Karl Mauck (sp?) in black shoes while it seems as if everyone else on the Oilers is wearing white .

  • Zach | February 9, 2009 at 10:35 am |

    Paul,

    Eurobasket is basically the European Basketball Championships, much like the UEFA Euro Tournament in Europe

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Johnny O | February 9, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    You know when racing sausages are helping un-load equipment in Arizona it’s getting damn close to baseball season!

    *(You also know the economy is in the tank because you need the sausages to help)

  • Teebz | February 9, 2009 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment="314107"][quote comment="314101"]Not sure how we all missed this. That’s the Kalamazoo Wings’ recent Golden Ice [and Arches] Night, which took place way back on Jan. 31st.

    Dead link[/quote]

    Now fixed.[/quote]

    We didn’t miss it, but you may have forgotten your own ticker from a week or so ago. That game was talked about in the comments when you brought up the “Golden Ice”, Paul. The jersey and ice were all part of the McDonald’s night endorsement.

    Just wanted to be sure you knew there was a tie-in between the two promotions. :o)

  • interlockingtc | February 9, 2009 at 10:50 am |

    Every pint of outmeal stout pulled by a competent bartender will reveal an identifiable image in its foam.

    :)

  • Matt '09 | February 9, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    Sir Paul [i]is[/i] batting left-handed. The right hand is on top…

  • interlockingtc | February 9, 2009 at 10:52 am |

    …er….OATMEAL….that is.

  • Namhob | February 9, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    I caught this over the weekend. Catania Calcio (Italian Soccer – Serie A) wears vertically-striped, multi-toned socks.

    http://www.odt.co.nz...
    http://i.media.goal....

  • Mike Engle | February 9, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment="314135"]I caught this over the weekend. Catania Calcio (Italian Soccer – Serie A) wears vertically-striped, multi-toned socks.

    http://www.odt.co.nz...
    http://i.media.goal....
    NSFW, #16!

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment="314133"]Sir Paul [i]is[/i] batting left-handed. The right hand is on top…[/quote]

    Sure you don’t wanna rethink that? :)

  • LI Phil | February 9, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment="314137"][quote comment="314133"]Sir Paul [i]is[/i] batting left-handed. The right hand is on top…[/quote]

    Sure you don’t wanna rethink that? :)[/quote]

    he’s from the hank aaron school

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment="314138"][quote comment="314137"][quote comment="314133"]Sir Paul [i]is[/i] batting left-handed. The right hand is on top…[/quote]

    Sure you don’t wanna rethink that? :)[/quote]

    he’s from the hank aaron school[/quote]

    Or the Broken Left Wrist Trying to Turn on Inside Heat school.

  • mike 2 | February 9, 2009 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment="314103"][quote comment="314102"]That’s an interesting looking scoreboard in the Leland’s auction. Not sure how old it really is though. The description says c. 1920, but it’s definitely been refurbished and repainted a number of times. Helvetica is the font used on most of it, and it wasn’t designed until the 1950s. Even the Grotesk fonts Helvetica was based on weren’t readily available like that in the 20s.[/quote]

    I think when that scoreboard was new it was hyped as a “new, state-of-the-art multi-dollar scoreboard.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Could that be a curling scoreboard?

    I’ve never heard of “ends” in any sport but curling. As well, that scoreboard would work as a curling scoreboard (although you don’t need that many numbers for the first digit of “ends”, just a 1 and a 0).

  • Kevin G. | February 9, 2009 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment="314127"][quote comment="314106"][quote comment="314105"][quote comment="314098"]Paul, I’m disappointed you didn’t point out that this will be the Chargers 50th season. 2010 will actually be their 50th anniversary, so the patch is incorrect.[/quote]

    Franchise was founded in 1959. That’s the basis for the whole AFL 50th-anni thing.[/quote]
    I thought that might be the case, but then why would they show the year 1960 on the patch?[/quote]

    Because 1960 IS thier first season…do the math

    1960 – 1969 is 10 Full Years[/quote]
    You just proved my point! 1960-2009 is 50 seasons. A season it not the same as an anniversary. For example, if someone got married in 2000, 2009 is not their 10-year anniversary because they’ve been together for parts of ten separate years. 2010 is their 10-year anniversary. So why don’t you do the math? This is their 50th season, and not anniversary (which would be 2010), unless like Paul said, they are counting 1959 because that is the year they were founded. But if that is true, the year 1960 should not be on the patch.

  • Ian K | February 9, 2009 at 11:31 am |


    Highlights include the Oilers’ “Roughneck” mascot,

    That’s the second biggest wrench I’ve ever seen!

  • Brian | February 9, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    Paul, many thanks for the like to the blog on basketball floors. I have wanted to read something like this for most of my adult life now.

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 11:41 am |

    Now THIS is a roughneck logo…
    http://www.brandsoft...

    (fun site, btw)

  • LI Phil | February 9, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    anyone else think the New York Post went a bit overboard on today’s cover?

    i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?”

  • Matt from L.A. | February 9, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    Ricko, in regards to Chavez Ravine. The local media still uses the name in most broadcasts and print media when referring to the stadium. Nothing official about the name as you pointed out of course but I would think most Dodger fans know what they are talking about when it is mentioned.

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment="314145"]anyone else think the New York Post went a bit overboard on today’s cover?

    i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?”[/quote]

    Ah, the seventh-grade humor for Post lives on.
    A-hole and ‘roid on same cover.
    Interesting.
    Too bad while in Dallas he didn’t meet his supplier at the infamous Texas Schoolbook Suppository, huh.

    And why not just go with “A-‘Roid”? I know, I know, this way they could get “hole” in there, too.

    W. Randolph Hearst would be proud, I’m sure.

    .

  • Mark K | February 9, 2009 at 12:00 pm |

    During the pro bowl they had some footage of when Madden coached the AFC squad before the game was played in Hawaii. Some pretty sweet unis back then. The helmets had a simple A or N logo. Can anyone get screen grabs (it was right before halftime)?

  • Johnny O | February 9, 2009 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment="314130"]You know when racing sausages are helping un-load equipment in Arizona it’s getting damn close to baseball season!

    *(You also know the economy is in the tank because you need the sausages to help)[/quote]

    This would have made a lot more sense if I would have posted the picture…

    http://milwaukee.bre...

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment="314149"][quote comment="314130"]You know when racing sausages are helping un-load equipment in Arizona it’s getting damn close to baseball season!

    *(You also know the economy is in the tank because you need the sausages to help)[/quote]

    This would have made a lot more sense if I would have posted the picture…

    http://milwaukee.bre...

    *(You also know the economy is in the tank because you need the sausages to help)[/quote]

    Well, maybe it’s their own gear. I’m pretty sure racing sausages don’t have some of the same perks the players do.

    I mean, you wouldn’t think they would, being sausages and all.

    —Ricko

  • BettorFan | February 9, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    I can’t believe the helmet sold for $500.

  • Mark K | February 9, 2009 at 12:07 pm |

    Here’s a program from the game in Seattle…

    http://www.gasolinea...

    Madden mentioned this game but the footage they showed was from an outdoor game.

  • [ s u v o ] | February 9, 2009 at 12:08 pm |

    i like to think of myself as somewhat creative, but i really can’t see the ‘turkey’ in the beer glass. snow angel – sure, but the other design looks more like the ‘L’ in mc hammer’s ill fated ‘2 legit 2 quit’ hand gesture. behold:

    http://media.threadl...

    (and oddly, to bring it all back to some sports-related reference, here’s david robinson flashing the ‘L’ for no apparent reason:

    http://www.spudart.o...

    um… and kirby puckett: http://www.spudart.o... )

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    “L for ‘lovvve’.”
    —Dodgeball

  • Mark K | February 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm |

    Is there a reason the “GRAF” nameplate isn’t centered on the Uni membership card?

  • Tony In Erie | February 9, 2009 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment="314145"]anyone else think the New York Post went a bit overboard on today’s cover?

    i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?”[/quote]

    Considering the legal ramifications, how strange it is that he’s the only one outed out of 104 players, and that he’s going through a divorce where EVERYTHING gets exposed…

    Yeah, I think they’ve got it about right. LOL

  • D*ck | February 9, 2009 at 12:20 pm |

    “i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?” ”

    The moving store was all out them when you went this morning?

  • Mark K | February 9, 2009 at 12:22 pm |

    Even sausages need pre-seasoning.

  • Tony In Erie | February 9, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    A Cleveland clomnist thinks all the city’s teams should wear the same colors.

    …other than me being nitpicky and noticing the spelling error (maybe I’m the A-Hole)

    I understand that the colors idea is supposed to be a joke and I’m not “messing with the legacy”

    …Cleveland…legacy…hahahaha…

    but obviously this style editor has no real clue about how disgustingly ugly the Indians uniforms would be if they were brown and white. Its so disgusting, I don’t even see how its even a “just for fun” idea, and how the Plain-Dealer actually supported this silliness enough to post it on their own website.

    Chief Wahoo with an dark orange face and brown hair…boy that’d get the Native American rights groups rollin, wouldn’t it?

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment="314159"]A Cleveland clomnist thinks all the city’s teams should wear the same colors.

    …other than me being nitpicky and noticing the spelling error (maybe I’m the A-Hole)

    I understand that the colors idea is supposed to be a joke and I’m not “messing with the legacy”

    …Cleveland…legacy…hahahaha…

    but obviously this style editor has no real clue about how disgustingly ugly the Indians uniforms would be if they were brown and white. Its so disgusting, I don’t even see how its even a “just for fun” idea, and how the Plain-Dealer actually supported this silliness enough to post it on their own website.

    Chief Wahoo with an dark orange face and brown hair…boy that’d get the Native American rights groups rollin, wouldn’t it?[/quote]

    Would be sorta like this, only with a feather instead of antennae.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Namhob | February 9, 2009 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment="314153"]i like to think of myself as somewhat creative, but i really can’t see the ‘turkey’ in the beer glass. snow angel – sure, but the other design looks more like the ‘L’ in mc hammer’s ill fated ‘2 legit 2 quit’ hand gesture. behold:

    http://media.threadl...

    (and oddly, to bring it all back to some sports-related reference, here’s david robinson flashing the ‘L’ for no apparent reason:

    http://www.spudart.o...

    um… and kirby puckett: http://www.spudart.o... )[/quote]
    For clarification purposes…

    http://i400.photobuc...

  • Peter | February 9, 2009 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment="314145"]anyone else think the New York Post went a bit overboard on today’s cover?

    i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?”[/quote]

    The Post?!?! OVERBOARD?!?! I would never expect that from them….the NY Times maybe…but NEVER the POST!!

  • Jere | February 9, 2009 at 1:18 pm |

    I’ve been looking into that Braves uni worn by Murphy in the poster. You’re right, they never wore “Braves” on baby blue in a real game, but they definitely wore “Braves” on blue in spring training, during many different years. (They even had a red jersey with “Braves” on it.) So I don’t know if the one in the poster was from one of their spring uniforms or what…..but usually those were regular blue, with no outline on the “Braves.”

  • Husul | February 9, 2009 at 1:32 pm |

    Very good scene…very good show. Archie (Carol) has a calm, stage-like presence in the show early days before he turned into Don Cherry.

    The reason for the clip,
    The 0:40 >>> 2:50 time frame needs no introduction other than pointing out the Dutch translation incorrectly refers to both METS and Majors as “Mets”, creating a ‘Jackie Robinson joined the Mets in 47′ translation.
    I wonder if “Jackie Robinson played for the Mets” has entered the cracks of Dutch culture like “Ace Bailys son in 9/11″ has in Canada?

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Justin | February 9, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    I am a huge Steelers fan, but this is going overboard. I can’t imagine ever actually wanting to wear this.

    http://media3.steele...

  • LI Phil | February 9, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment="314165"]I am a huge Steelers fan, but this is going overboard. I can’t imagine ever actually wanting to wear this.

    http://media3.steele...

    taking away the SB logos…what’s with the sleeve treatment? i can understand the ‘half stripe’ on the players’ jerseys, since that’s the way they’re cut…but WTF is the vector doing with this?

    /awful

  • JAson | February 9, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    New Era must be on board with painting Cleveland brown & orange

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

  • Kevin | February 9, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    Paul – like the Diadora jackets and the nick-names are cool. That said, I am thinking the reason that they are used is because the sponsorship agreement these clubs have with Nike, adidas, etc. does not allow Diadora to use the real name of the club. Clever way for Diadora to get around the “douchebagery.” Hope I win!

  • JTH | February 9, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment="314166"][quote comment="314165"]I am a huge Steelers fan, but this is going overboard. I can’t imagine ever actually wanting to wear this.

    http://media3.steele...

    taking away the SB logos…what’s with the sleeve treatment? i can understand the ‘half stripe’ on the players’ jerseys, since that’s the way they’re cut…but WTF is the vector doing with this?

    /awful[/quote]
    That’s nothing new. They’ve been doing it for years.

  • Mike D | February 9, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment="314167"]New Era must be on board with painting Cleveland brown & orange

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    Those colors wouldn’t look bad on a baseball field.

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment="314170"][quote comment="314167"]New Era must be on board with painting Cleveland brown & orange

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    Those colors wouldn’t look bad on a baseball field.[/quote]

    Been done. Check the Padres starting in 1985, the post-taco era. A different and very nice pinstriped uni, including on the road. Can’t really tell from Dressed/Nines, but the roads weren’t gray. Rather a sort of light “chocolate malt” color. Brown shoes, too.

    —Ricko

  • Mark K | February 9, 2009 at 2:22 pm |

    I hope I never live to see the post-taco era!

  • city til i die | February 9, 2009 at 2:25 pm |

    It should be noted in the raffle referring to “locals” that no locals actually support Manchester United.

  • Rob | February 9, 2009 at 2:26 pm |

    The Detroit Lions ditched their black jerseys alternates for good. Article also says that changes to uni could come in 2010.

    http://detnews.com/a...

  • JTH | February 9, 2009 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment="314171"][quote comment="314170"][quote comment="314167"]New Era must be on board with painting Cleveland brown & orange

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    Those colors wouldn’t look bad on a baseball field.[/quote]

    Been done. Check the Padres starting in 1985, the post-taco era. A different and very nice pinstriped uni, including on the road. Can’t really tell from Dressed/Nines, but the roads weren’t gray. Rather a sort of light “chocolate malt” color. Brown shoes, too.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Wow. I totally forgot that they wore brown & orange before the switch to blue & orange.

    When I saw you lead off with “been done” I was sure you were going to reference something along these lines.

  • mmwatkin | February 9, 2009 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment="314126"][quote comment="314113"]Lions officially discard their (imho fugly) black alternate jerseys according to this article from Mlive.com[/quote]

    An attempt at exorcising Millen’s black as well:

    http://www.michaelpr...

    Why is it that whenever fans try and redesign a logo, they go way overboard and the thing looks god awful?

    Wasn’t there a “50 rules to designing a logo” or something like that posted here? More people need to read that rather than going buck wild with photoshop.

  • Blake | February 9, 2009 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment="314145"]anyone else think the New York Post went a bit overboard on today’s cover?

    i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?”[/quote]
    That’s Rupert Murdoch’s journalism for ya.

  • Sammy | February 9, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment="314145"]anyone else think the New York Post went a bit overboard on today’s cover?

    i picked that up in the stationary store, and was like “what the f*ck?”[/quote]

    Hey, at least they got the apostrophe right before “roid.”

  • Lomion | February 9, 2009 at 3:14 pm |

    Even think you’d see something that makes Steely McBeam seem well-conceived? Well, check this out:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    I got this off of the footballoutsiders.com links, and according to a poster there, the Eagles mascot was used for a while, but no one claimed to have seen any of the others outside the Probowl where the pictures were from. Anyone here seen these before?

  • Carl G | February 9, 2009 at 3:15 pm |

    [/quote] Austin Gillis recently acquired this poster of Dale Murphy wielding a light sabre/bat — cool enough, except that the Braves’ powder blue road design didn’t feature the team name on the chest, so the team never actually wore the uni Murphy’s wearing in the poster photo. [/quote]

    I don’t think he ever used a light-sabre as a bat in a game either

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment="314176"][quote comment="314126"][quote comment="314113"]Lions officially discard their (imho fugly) black alternate jerseys according to this article from Mlive.com[/quote]

    An attempt at exorcising Millen’s black as well:

    http://www.michaelpr...

    Why is it that whenever fans try and redesign a logo, they go way overboard and the thing looks god awful?

    Wasn’t there a “50 rules to designing a logo” or something like that posted here? More people need to read that rather than going buck wild with photoshop.[/quote]

    Yup, having photoshop doesn’t make someone a designer any more than having a digital camera makes them a photographer. Or a $25,000 stereo system makes them Mozart.

    If you don’t have they eye or the ear, all the technology will do is help come up with elaborate, bad stuff.

    (I personally liked that two-headed, multi-directional Lion that looked like the mothership from a bad SciFi Channel original movie. Or was it some kind of…embryo. Not sure.)

  • Stan Bowers | February 9, 2009 at 3:20 pm |

    Hey Gang,

    Can anyone explain why the offensive lineman (# 67)appears to be missing the JETS Logo on the right-hand side of his helmet???

    http://gi108.photobu...

    Just curious….???

    Great postings today…

  • gusto | February 9, 2009 at 3:21 pm |

    Saw another redesigned Detroit lions prototype aomewhere recently, it had the Lion head with accented with yellow. Horrible idea, IMO.

    I did like the circa 1997 blue pants, that would be worth bringing back.

  • Carl G | February 9, 2009 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment="314110"]Re: TICKER

    Ordinarily, I love your stuff, but I have to call you on this one:

    Who’s the moron? The moron with the bad idea? Or the moron who doesn’t bother to read the whole story and misrepresents the author’s intent?

    Look at the 11th paragraph, where she states: “I am informed that no other city’s sports teams shares this strategy, other than our hated neighbors to the southeast, who are guilty of over-accessorizing their famous black and gold.”

    Don’t rush to judgment without doing your due diligence first.[/quote]

    What is this inreference to?

  • Carl G | February 9, 2009 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment="314111"]Just wanted to post a comment about one of Uni Watch’s sponsors.

    I bought a print and poster from Sports Propaganda last week and they’re awesome. The print is absolutely gorgeous and well worth the money.

    The poster got damaged in shipping but Chris Speakman was able to send me another one for just the cost of shipping.

    I will definitely be buying more from him in the future.

    (This sounds like a paid endorsement, but believe me, it isn’t. I just really like the stuff that I ordered from him and the customer service that he provided.)[/quote]

    Not to be overly difficult, but if the product was damaged in shipment, most vendors would not charge additional shipping to send a replacement

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment="314182"]Hey Gang,

    Can anyone explain why the offensive lineman (# 67)appears to be missing the JETS Logo on the right-hand side of his helmet???

    http://gi108.photobu...

    Just curious….???

    Great postings today…[/quote]

    Two reasonable possibilities:
    It started to peel earlier in the game so the equipment guys just pulled the whole thing off.
    For some reason he had to go to his backup helmet, which he may not have used since training camp. Back then many teams (Jets and Pats among them) wouldn’t bother with applying the logos until the first game of the season.

    —Ricko

  • Stan Bowers | February 9, 2009 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment="314186"][quote comment="314182"]Hey Gang,

    Can anyone explain why the offensive lineman (# 67)appears to be missing the JETS Logo on the right-hand side of his helmet???

    http://gi108.photobu...

    Just curious….???

    Great postings today…[/quote]

    Two reasonable possibilities:
    It started to peel earlier in the game so the equipment guys just pulled the whole thing off.
    For some reason he had to go to his backup helmet, which he may not have used since training camp. Back then many teams (Jets and Pats among them) wouldn’t bother with applying the logos until the first game of the season.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko,

    I ask and you answer….

    Another reason why “UniWatch” is a great site…

  • Namhob | February 9, 2009 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment="314185"][quote comment="314111"]Just wanted to post a comment about one of Uni Watch’s sponsors.

    I bought a print and poster from Sports Propaganda last week and they’re awesome. The print is absolutely gorgeous and well worth the money.

    The poster got damaged in shipping but Chris Speakman was able to send me another one for just the cost of shipping.

    I will definitely be buying more from him in the future.

    (This sounds like a paid endorsement, but believe me, it isn’t. I just really like the stuff that I ordered from him and the customer service that he provided.)[/quote]

    Not to be overly difficult, but if the product was damaged in shipment, most vendors would not charge additional shipping to send a replacement[/quote]
    I could see them charging for shipping again if they are giving the consignee the ability to claim damages from whatever company was making the delivery.

  • Carl G | February 9, 2009 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment="314189"][quote comment="314185"][quote comment="314111"]Just wanted to post a comment about one of Uni Watch’s sponsors.

    I bought a print and poster from Sports Propaganda last week and they’re awesome. The print is absolutely gorgeous and well worth the money.

    The poster got damaged in shipping but Chris Speakman was able to send me another one for just the cost of shipping.

    I will definitely be buying more from him in the future.

    (This sounds like a paid endorsement, but believe me, it isn’t. I just really like the stuff that I ordered from him and the customer service that he provided.)[/quote]

    Not to be overly difficult, but if the product was damaged in shipment, most vendors would not charge additional shipping to send a replacement[/quote]
    I could see them charging for shipping again if they are giving the consignee the ability to claim damages from whatever company was making the delivery.[/quote]

    Yes, but that is not what seemed to happen from the description.

  • Louis | February 9, 2009 at 3:47 pm |

    OK, I like the idea of “color branding” cities sports teams, to a point. What do you do with cities with two teams in a league, i.e. New York? I suppose the Yankees, Rangers and Giants are Red White & Blue, so do the Mets and Islanders go green or the Jets go orange? Chicago one football, two baseball, one hockey, Navy, Orange, Royal, White & Red, Black & Red… I can sense a tequila sunrise style revival brewing! Yikes!

  • jon | February 9, 2009 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment="314165"]I am a huge Steelers fan, but this is going overboard. I can’t imagine ever actually wanting to wear this.

    http://media3.steele...

    … i do. but im always in the minority here so its no big deal lol

  • mmwatkin | February 9, 2009 at 4:02 pm |

    I really don’t want Detroit to color brand all of their teams. They have too much tradition to stray from what they have, and I think most Detroiters feel the same. Maybe that is why the majority fear what the Lions redesign will bring.

  • warren thompson | February 9, 2009 at 4:03 pm |

    Google “Intercourse, PA” and you’ll discover that the town’s name has (apparently) nothing to do with sexual congress, much to the chagrin of those of us who still retain a middle-school sense of what passes for humor. [For what it's worth, Larry Flynt once unsuccessfully attempted to have his magazine HUSTLER postmarked from Intercourse.]

  • Sebs | February 9, 2009 at 4:09 pm |

    In response to the Harvard Corn Syrup above, there is also a Yale Corn Syrup for the Elis.

  • Jeff P | February 9, 2009 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment="314191"]OK, I like the idea of “color branding” cities sports teams, to a point. What do you do with cities with two teams in a league, i.e. New York? I suppose the Yankees, Rangers and Giants are Red White & Blue, so do the Mets and Islanders go green or the Jets go orange? Chicago one football, two baseball, one hockey, Navy, Orange, Royal, White & Red, Black & Red… I can sense a tequila sunrise style revival brewing! Yikes![/quote]
    The thing is, it absolutely does not work when teams have a lot of history with their current colors. If the Devils and Nets wind up both black and red (not too much of a strech) it works. But Making any of the NY teams change is heresy. The only reason it worked in Pittsburgh is because two teams already had the same colors and the pens wanted to cash in on the mojo.

    But if you touch the Blackhawks or Bears unis and all of the football and hockey worlds will come after you with pitchforks and shotguns. If the Rays and Lightning decide to synchronize, cool.

  • chance | February 9, 2009 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment="314171"][quote comment="314170"][quote comment="314167"]New Era must be on board with painting Cleveland brown & orange

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    http://s7d3.scene7.c...

    Those colors wouldn’t look bad on a baseball field.[/quote]

    Been done. Check the Padres starting in 1985, the post-taco era. A different and very nice pinstriped uni, including on the road. Can’t really tell from Dressed/Nines, but the roads weren’t gray. Rather a sort of light “chocolate malt” color. Brown shoes, too.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Looked great, too.

    It’d be great to get those colors back in big league baseball.

  • Bopper | February 9, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment="314173"]It should be noted in the raffle referring to “locals” that no locals actually support Manchester United.[/quote]

    True Mancunians Support City

    http://whoareyadesig...

  • M.Princip | February 9, 2009 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment="314181"][quote comment="314176"][quote comment="314126"][quote comment="314113"]Lions officially discard their (imho fugly) black alternate jerseys according to this article from Mlive.com[/quote]

    An attempt at exorcising Millen’s black as well:

    http://www.michaelpr...

    Why is it that whenever fans try and redesign a logo, they go way overboard and the thing looks god awful?

    Wasn’t there a “50 rules to designing a logo” or something like that posted here? More people need to read that rather than going buck wild with photoshop.[/quote]

    (I personally liked that two-headed, multi-directional Lion that looked like the mothership from a bad SciFi Channel original movie. Or was it some kind of…embryo. Not sure.)[/quote]

    Ha! I dig it!

    This logo was not meant to replace the primary Lions helmet decal. Simply, an exercise to develop an alternate logo resembling more of a patch, or, crest. I designed a vectorized Lions head because I like that old school look, much the same way that the Chicago Bears had: http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.michaelpr...

    I know it’s not clean and a little busy, yet, I don’t give a fuck right now. Just exercising my ideas.

    Also, designed that font from two other fonts that I like. Not too crazy about that western cowboy font the Lions have had for so many years. Actually, nowaday it looks like they’re simply using Copperplate Gothic?

  • Randy Miller | February 9, 2009 at 5:04 pm |

    [For what it’s worth, Larry Flynt once unsuccessfully attempted to have his magazine HUSTLER postmarked from Intercourse.]

    COMMUNICATION PROFESSOR MODE ON:
    Actually, the pornographer who wanted to mail his magazine from Intercourse was Ralph Ginzburg, publisher of Eros in the early 1960s. Ginzburg was a direct-mail marketing genius who sent out more than 5 million subscription cards to Eros before it launched.

    He was later arrested and found guilty of pandering in a Supreme Court decision that is still a landmark case covered in your typical Media Law classes. Ginzburg wanted a postmark from Intercourse or Blue Ball, PA, but neither had the large post office necessary to perform the task.

    And Eros stopped after the arrest. As a scholar who has seen all four issues of Eros, believe me, these days it wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow.

  • JTH | February 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment="314196"][quote comment="314191"]OK, I like the idea of “color branding” cities sports teams, to a point. What do you do with cities with two teams in a league, i.e. New York? I suppose the Yankees, Rangers and Giants are Red White & Blue, so do the Mets and Islanders go green or the Jets go orange? Chicago one football, two baseball, one hockey, Navy, Orange, Royal, White & Red, Black & Red… I can sense a tequila sunrise style revival brewing! Yikes![/quote]
    The thing is, it absolutely does not work when teams have a lot of history with their current colors. If the Devils and Nets wind up both black and red (not too much of a strech) it works. But Making any of the NY teams change is heresy. The only reason it worked in Pittsburgh is because two teams already had the same colors and the pens wanted to cash in on the mojo.

    But if you touch the Blackhawks or Bears unis and all of the football and hockey worlds will come after you with pitchforks and shotguns. If the Rays and Lightning decide to synchronize, cool.[/quote]
    No need to change any of the Chicago teams because Hawks’ crest already matches all the other major teams in town. So it’s like the anchor in the color branding thing.

    Black & Red: Bulls
    Black: Sox
    Red & royal: Cubs
    Orange: Bears

  • Scott | February 9, 2009 at 5:32 pm |

    Jack Parker, the hockey coach at Boston University, was recently presented with a framed jersey to commemorate his 800th career coaching victory.

  • MPowers1634 | February 9, 2009 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment="314100"]Each weekend it seem as though a new college team is sporting the new Nike SOD uniforms. Initially, I liked the top, but the template is getting a little old.

    Just wondering: If this fabric is so super-duper, are any pro teams wearing it? Is it available in any other uniform style beside SOD. You’d think if it’s that superior, the pros would latch on to it quickly. Otherwise, it must just be marketing.[/quote]

    I’m sure that someone will have addressed this by now, but the NBA is outfitted by Adidas and the SOD is Nike’s brainchild.

    It sucks to have been off the grid all day, but all of my time as spent A. teaching B. finishing DIY #3…if y’all are lucky, I’ll send pics to Paul this evening.

  • Steve | February 9, 2009 at 5:45 pm |

    Purdue to unveil their new basketball uniforms at midnight Feb 17.
    http://photos-c.ak.f...

  • Paul Lukas | February 9, 2009 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment="314200"][For what it’s worth, Larry Flynt once unsuccessfully attempted to have his magazine HUSTLER postmarked from Intercourse.]

    COMMUNICATION PROFESSOR MODE ON:
    Actually, the pornographer who wanted to mail his magazine from Intercourse was Ralph Ginzburg, publisher of Eros in the early 1960s. Ginzburg was a direct-mail marketing genius who sent out more than 5 million subscription cards to Eros before it launched.

    He was later arrested and found guilty of pandering in a Supreme Court decision that is still a landmark case covered in your typical Media Law classes. Ginzburg wanted a postmark from Intercourse or Blue Ball, PA, but neither had the large post office necessary to perform the task.

    And Eros stopped after the arrest. As a scholar who has seen all four issues of Eros, believe me, these days it wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow.[/quote]

    I have a battered old copy of Eros that I bought for 50¢ at a Brooklyn stoop sale a few years back. Extremely tame from a sexual standpoint, at least by today’s standards, but it remains a classic example of great graphic design. A landmark of its type.

  • Timothy D. | February 9, 2009 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment="314140"][quote comment="314103"][quote comment="314102"]That’s an interesting looking scoreboard in the Leland’s auction. Not sure how old it really is though. The description says c. 1920, but it’s definitely been refurbished and repainted a number of times. Helvetica is the font used on most of it, and it wasn’t designed until the 1950s. Even the Grotesk fonts Helvetica was based on weren’t readily available like that in the 20s.[/quote]

    I think when that scoreboard was new it was hyped as a “new, state-of-the-art multi-dollar scoreboard.”

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Could that be a curling scoreboard?

    I’ve never heard of “ends” in any sport but curling. As well, that scoreboard would work as a curling scoreboard (although you don’t need that many numbers for the first digit of “ends”, just a 1 and a 0).[/quote]

    It is a scoreboard used for Lawn Bowls.

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 6:05 pm |

    [quote comment="314199"][quote comment="314181"][quote comment="314176"][quote comment="314126"][quote comment="314113"]Lions officially discard their (imho fugly) black alternate jerseys according to this article from Mlive.com[/quote]

    An attempt at exorcising Millen’s black as well:

    http://www.michaelpr...

    Why is it that whenever fans try and redesign a logo, they go way overboard and the thing looks god awful?

    Wasn’t there a “50 rules to designing a logo” or something like that posted here? More people need to read that rather than going buck wild with photoshop.[/quote]

    (I personally liked that two-headed, multi-directional Lion that looked like the mothership from a bad SciFi Channel original movie. Or was it some kind of…embryo. Not sure.)[/quote]

    Ha! I dig it!

    This logo was not meant to replace the primary Lions helmet decal. Simply, an exercise to develop an alternate logo resembling more of a patch, or, crest. I designed a vectorized Lions head because I like that old school look, much the same way that the Chicago Bears had: http://www.sportslog...

    http://www.michaelpr...

    I know it’s not clean and a little busy, yet, I don’t give a fuck right now. Just exercising my ideas.

    Also, designed that font from two other fonts that I like. Not too crazy about that western cowboy font the Lions have had for so many years. Actually, nowaday it looks like they’re simply using Copperplate Gothic?[/quote]

    Maybe try a helmet design that goes to school a little on the old Michigan Panthers (USFL). Stick with Honolulu Blue and white on a Silver helmet, with maybe a bit of Navy for definition and depth.

    Just a thought.

    —Ricko

  • Aaron Scholder | February 9, 2009 at 6:17 pm |
  • C-Wicky | February 9, 2009 at 6:18 pm |

    [quote comment="314183"]Saw another redesigned Detroit lions prototype aomewhere recently, it had the Lion head with accented with yellow. Horrible idea, IMO.

    I did like the circa 1997 blue pants, that would be worth bringing back.[/quote]

    I remember the prototype that you mention, but can’t find it anywhere. The color scheme with the yellow/gold color just didn’t fit. The Lions colors are one of my favorite combos. They need to leave that alone!

    I found this logo over at detroitlionsforum.com, which I think is pretty good. I like how the designer updated the current logo. He also has some helmet and uniform prototypes up…helmets:here ,here ,here& here …uniforms:here & here.

  • M.Princip | February 9, 2009 at 6:19 pm |

    “Maybe try a helmet design that goes to school a little on the old Michigan Panthers (USFL). Stick with Honolulu Blue and white on a Silver helmet, with maybe a bit of Navy for definition and depth.

    Just a thought.”

    —Ricko

    Great idea Ricko, I’ll work it out some. Those Panthers helmets were pretty slick. Has to be the right form(lions head) and not too cartoonish, enveloping the ear hole……etc.

  • Sebs | February 9, 2009 at 6:32 pm |

    [quote comment="314205"][quote comment="314200"][For what it’s worth, Larry Flynt once unsuccessfully attempted to have his magazine HUSTLER postmarked from Intercourse.]

    COMMUNICATION PROFESSOR MODE ON:
    Actually, the pornographer who wanted to mail his magazine from Intercourse was Ralph Ginzburg, publisher of Eros in the early 1960s. Ginzburg was a direct-mail marketing genius who sent out more than 5 million subscription cards to Eros before it launched.

    He was later arrested and found guilty of pandering in a Supreme Court decision that is still a landmark case covered in your typical Media Law classes. Ginzburg wanted a postmark from Intercourse or Blue Ball, PA, but neither had the large post office necessary to perform the task.

    And Eros stopped after the arrest. As a scholar who has seen all four issues of Eros, believe me, these days it wouldn’t even raise an eyebrow.[/quote]

    I have a battered old copy of Eros that I bought for 50¢ at a Brooklyn stoop sale a few years back. Extremely tame from a sexual standpoint, at least by today’s standards, but it remains a classic example of great graphic design. A landmark of its type.[/quote]

    And a landmark of type, to boot.

  • LarryB | February 9, 2009 at 7:58 pm |

    http://img.photobuck...

    Found this yesterday. It is Purdue vs Chicago Maroon. What I like is how Chicago looks like they are in all maroon uniforms. I do not know about the helmets. Their helmets did have a C on the back. The year was around 1930

  • Lwiedy | February 9, 2009 at 8:03 pm |

    [quote comment="314208"]Pretty cool Shea memorabilia items here: http://mets.auction....

    Ha, ha, ha, ha………I think they use this sign when the toilet paper runs out.

  • LarryB | February 9, 2009 at 8:04 pm |

    I enjoyed looking at the auctions and the Leland site that was from before also. Those Red Grange dolls were interesting. Too bad they did not show him in Illinois colors.

    As for Cleveland having all teams wear the same colors. I dont care about that idea. I do not like it when teams do change the colors completely though as some have done in all sports.

    Another reason I am a huge college fan.

  • LarryB | February 9, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    That 1948 College football All American poster drawing was awesome.

  • Lwiedy | February 9, 2009 at 8:06 pm |

    [quote comment="314213"][quote comment="314208"]Pretty cool Shea memorabilia items here: http://mets.auction....

    Ha, ha, ha, ha………I think they use this sign when the toilet paper runs out.[/quote]

    And I guess it never made its way to the Brewers clubhouse.

  • LI Phil | February 9, 2009 at 8:35 pm |

    [quote]I guess it never made its way to the Brewers clubhouse.[/quote]

    do the buccos even have an official scorer?

  • Lwiedy | February 9, 2009 at 8:43 pm |

    [quote comment="314217"][quote]I guess it never made its way to the Brewers clubhouse.[/quote]

    do the buccos even have an official scorer?[/quote]

    Well if they don’t, Mr. Yost may still be looking for work.

  • MPowers1634 | February 9, 2009 at 8:47 pm |

    [quote comment="314204"]Purdue to unveil their new basketball uniforms at midnight Feb 17.
    http://photos-c.ak.f...

    Michael Jordan’s birthday…maybe they are becoming a JB team?

  • timmy b | February 9, 2009 at 8:54 pm |

    it’s late in the evening and I realize I might miss most of the of the old-timers on this board, but anyone and also calling out ricko, tom farley, larry and chance on this one…but anyone with access to this week’s Sports Illustrated (2/9/09) please turn to page 16, which notes the passing of 50’s 49ers end Billy Wilson with a great shot shot from 1958 against the Packers. It is definitely from ’58 b/c the Niners are wearing the white jerseys with the thick red shoulder hoop, the only season SF ever wore this design.

    Now my big question on the picture here is on the Packers. There has been some debate as to whether GB wore WHITE helmets and pants for both home and away. In this b/w shot it definitely appears to me that the Pack are wearing white helmets and pants. BUT is it possible that the thin pant stripe is yellow?? Or is it truly navy?

    I’ll check in with any replies on Wednesday as I’ll not have access to a computer tomorrow.

    Any scans of the photo would be helpful and thanks in advance for any feedback!

  • LI Phil | February 9, 2009 at 8:55 pm |

    [quote comment="314218"][quote comment="314217"][quote]I guess it never made its way to the Brewers clubhouse.[/quote]

    do the buccos even have an official scorer?[/quote]

    Well if they don’t, Mr. Yost may still be looking for work.[/quote]

    would you have given laroche a hit?

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 8:55 pm |

    Just messin’ around with that template for Lions.
    Keep a little navy blue, no black.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 9:13 pm |

    Good bet this is from the same game.
    Looks to me like pants stripe is navy, but when the light hits it a certain way it gets kinda shiny and looks lighter.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • Lwiedy | February 9, 2009 at 9:20 pm |

    [quote comment="314221"][quote comment="314218"][quote comment="314217"][quote]I guess it never made its way to the Brewers clubhouse.[/quote]

    do the buccos even have an official scorer?[/quote]

    Well if they don’t, Mr. Yost may still be looking for work.[/quote]

    would you have given laroche a hit?[/quote]

    Yes. But I think you and I have gone down this road. Doesn’t matter what I think, it’s his call and unless there is an issue with a guy’s integrity then the call should not be questioned. You can always disagree but to say it was wrong IS wrong.

  • LI Phil | February 9, 2009 at 9:25 pm |

    speaking of billy wilson…here’s a great pic from 12/27/57 @ kezar

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 9:27 pm |

    In the early 70s, collegs had “pared down” jerseys, too. Here’s Archie Manning at Mississippiein 1970…in the “shoulder loopless” version of their road jerseys.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • chance | February 9, 2009 at 9:34 pm |

    [quote comment="314220"]it’s late in the evening and I realize I might miss most of the of the old-timers on this board, but anyone and also calling out ricko, tom farley, larry and chance on this one…but anyone with access to this week’s Sports Illustrated (2/9/09) please turn to page 16, which notes the passing of 50’s 49ers end Billy Wilson with a great shot shot from 1958 against the Packers. It is definitely from ’58 b/c the Niners are wearing the white jerseys with the thick red shoulder hoop, the only season SF ever wore this design.

    Now my big question on the picture here is on the Packers. There has been some debate as to whether GB wore WHITE helmets and pants for both home and away. In this b/w shot it definitely appears to me that the Pack are wearing white helmets and pants. BUT is it possible that the thin pant stripe is yellow?? Or is it truly navy?

    I’ll check in with any replies on Wednesday as I’ll not have access to a computer tomorrow.

    Any scans of the photo would be helpful and thanks in advance for any feedback![/quote]
    I’m only familiar with the white pants/navy stripe, so maybe Ricko is correct and it’s a trick of the light.

    Don’t know, but I’ll check it out!

  • LarryB | February 9, 2009 at 9:35 pm |

    I did not see the SI this week. I was at the store today and seeing Steelers Steelers everyplace made me just walk by. I have seen old pictures of the Packers where I too wondered if the helmets were white. Sometimes even in b&w photos you can make a good guess when something is white especially helmets

    Curious as to what anybody finds out for sure

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 9:39 pm |

    Another Billy Wilson shot. From ’57, also against the Lions, this time at Briggs (Tiger) Stadium.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko

  • chance | February 9, 2009 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment="314228"]I did not see the SI this week. I was at the store today and seeing Steelers Steelers everyplace made me just walk by. I have seen old pictures of the Packers where I too wondered if the helmets were white. Sometimes even in b&w photos you can make a good guess when something is white especially helmets

    Curious as to what anybody finds out for sure[/quote]

    It’s a little tougher for the Packers, since gold washes out into white so easily in period BW photography.

    So far as I know, the Packers only wore white helmets from 1954-1958, and even then only sporadically.

  • LarryB | February 9, 2009 at 9:47 pm |

    chance, would you have any idea about this Wisconsin uniform from 1931 or so

    http://img.photobuck...

    If the sleeves and numbers and strips and collar are red it sure looks like a dark red.

  • Lwiedy | February 9, 2009 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment="314229"]Another Billy Wilson shot. From ’57, also against the Lions, this time at Briggs (Tiger) Stadium.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Picture looks familiar: http://assets.nydail...

  • LI Phil | February 9, 2009 at 9:51 pm |

    [quote comment="314232"][quote comment="314229"]Another Billy Wilson shot. From ’57, also against the Lions, this time at Briggs (Tiger) Stadium.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Picture looks familiar: http://assets.nydail...

    only wilson actually had both feet in bounds ;)

  • M.Princip | February 9, 2009 at 10:23 pm |

    [quote comment="314222"]Just messin’ around with that template for Lions.
    Keep a little navy blue, no black.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I really like the wordmark and the colors you got here Ricko, however, the Lion looks better suited on a breakfast cereal box. A little too friendly and cartoonish for my taste. I like the Michigan Panthers idea, got me thinking a little differently about the primary logo.

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment="314234"][quote comment="314222"]Just messin’ around with that template for Lions.
    Keep a little navy blue, no black.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I really like the wordmark and the colors you got here Ricko, however, the Lion looks better suited on a breakfast cereal box. A little too friendly and cartoonish for my taste. I like the Michigan Panthers idea, got me thinking a little differently about the primary logo.[/quote]

    I agree about the Lion. I just used the one that was there to see how the figure (whatever it was) would look supersized.

  • Johnny O | February 9, 2009 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment="314231"]chance, would you have any idea about this Wisconsin uniform from 1931 or so

    http://img.photobuck...

    If the sleeves and numbers and strips and collar are red it sure looks like a dark red.[/quote]

    How about another Wisconsin resident taking a stab at this one?

    I am not sure about the early 30’s, but when the Badgers did a throwback game a few years ago they “threw back” to the early 60’s, and the uniforms were noticeably a darker red. In fact, the tremendous article from Helmet Hut can be found here:
    http://www.helmethut...

    They even describe the red as “handsome deep red”. You will also notice the darker red on some of the helmets in the photos throughout the page of former players holding their helmets. So without digging into this too deeply, I would assume the brighter red which the Badgers sport these days, was not dominate until the very early 70’s.

    I also found this link:
    http://farm4.static....

    …and if the color is right, it shows Bucky having a very dark red early in their football years. Charles Goldenberg was born in 1911, so if he played at the University of Wisconsin 18 years later, that is 1929, which would fit pretty close to the ’31 date you are inquiring about. Hope this helps a little.

  • Timothy B | February 9, 2009 at 10:35 pm |

    [quote comment="314109"]Montreal has had all its major teams wearing red, white and blue since the 1970s… The Canadiens have been red, white and blue forever, as we all know… The Expos wore red, white and blue for their entire existence… And in the CFL, the Montreal Alouettes switched to red, white and blue in the mid-70s in order to fit the scheme.[/quote]

    Montreal Manic (NASL) also sported the red, white and blue.

  • jon | February 9, 2009 at 10:49 pm |

    [quote comment="314233"][quote comment="314232"][quote comment="314229"]Another Billy Wilson shot. From ’57, also against the Lions, this time at Briggs (Tiger) Stadium.
    http://farm4.static....

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Picture looks familiar: http://assets.nydail...

    only wilson actually had both feet in bounds ;)[/quote]

    …. as did holmes

  • =bg= | February 9, 2009 at 11:26 pm |

    speaking of stadium blankets, or maybe this is poncho related. Anyone have a blanket and/or poncho that was all white…had all 26 (at the time) teams all over it..and had some type of reflective aluminum material on the inside? the theory being, it reflected your body heat. I loved that thing. Photo if you have one!

  • Bill | February 9, 2009 at 11:51 pm |

    [quote comment="314165"]I am a huge Steelers fan, but this is going overboard. I can’t imagine ever actually wanting to wear this.

    http://media3.steele...
    You could just as easily honor one Bubby Brister with that jersey. Wonder if it’d just be cheaper to buy the patches and add them yourself?

  • Ricko | February 9, 2009 at 11:56 pm |

    [quote comment="314240"][quote comment="314165"]I am a huge Steelers fan, but this is going overboard. I can’t imagine ever actually wanting to wear this.

    http://media3.steele...
    You could just as easily honor one Bubby Brister with that jersey. Wonder if it’d just be cheaper to buy the patches and add them yourself?[/quote]

    Wondered if someone would mention ol’ Bubby. LOL

    —Ricko

  • BurghFan | February 10, 2009 at 2:03 am |

    I don’t think we’ve had a link to Saturday’s real color-on-color action between Duquesne and Xavier.

  • LarryB | February 10, 2009 at 4:06 am |

    [quote comment="314236"][quote comment="314231"]chance, would you have any idea about this Wisconsin uniform from 1931 or so

    http://img.photobuck...

    If the sleeves and numbers and strips and collar are red it sure looks like a dark red.[/quote]

    How about another Wisconsin resident taking a stab at this one?

    I am not sure about the early 30’s, but when the Badgers did a throwback game a few years ago they “threw back” to the early 60’s, and the uniforms were noticeably a darker red. In fact, the tremendous article from Helmet Hut can be found here:
    http://www.helmethut...

    They even describe the red as “handsome deep red”. You will also notice the darker red on some of the helmets in the photos throughout the page of former players holding their helmets. So without digging into this too deeply, I would assume the brighter red which the Badgers sport these days, was not dominate until the very early 70’s.

    I also found this link:
    http://farm4.static....

    …and if the color is right, it shows Bucky having a very dark red early in their football years. Charles Goldenberg was born in 1911, so if he played at the University of Wisconsin 18 years later, that is 1929, which would fit pretty close to the ’31 date you are inquiring about. Hope this helps a little.[/quote]

    Thanks, That Wisconsin link and picture was great.

  • LarryB | February 10, 2009 at 4:08 am |

    [quote comment="314220"]it’s late in the evening and I realize I might miss most of the of the old-timers on this board, but anyone and also calling out ricko, tom farley, larry and chance on this one…but anyone with access to this week’s Sports Illustrated (2/9/09) please turn to page 16, which notes the passing of 50’s 49ers end Billy Wilson with a great shot shot from 1958 against the Packers. It is definitely from ’58 b/c the Niners are wearing the white jerseys with the thick red shoulder hoop, the only season SF ever wore this design.

    Now my big question on the picture here is on the Packers. There has been some debate as to whether GB wore WHITE helmets and pants for both home and away. In this b/w shot it definitely appears to me that the Pack are wearing white helmets and pants. BUT is it possible that the thin pant stripe is yellow?? Or is it truly navy?

    I’ll check in with any replies on Wednesday as I’ll not have access to a computer tomorrow.

    Any scans of the photo would be helpful and thanks in advance for any feedback![/quote]

    I found this and while just looking at other things.

    1958: New coach Scooter McLean brings back same green uniforms used in 1956 opener (white pants, white helmet).

    http://www.packers.c...

  • JTH | February 10, 2009 at 7:03 am |

    [quote comment="314236"][quote comment="314231"]chance, would you have any idea about this Wisconsin uniform from 1931 or so

    http://img.photobuck...

    If the sleeves and numbers and strips and collar are red it sure looks like a dark red.[/quote]

    How about another Wisconsin resident taking a stab at this one?

    I am not sure about the early 30’s, but when the Badgers did a throwback game a few years ago they “threw back” to the early 60’s, and the uniforms were noticeably a darker red. In fact, the tremendous article from Helmet Hut can be found here:
    http://www.helmethut...

    They even describe the red as “handsome deep red”. You will also notice the darker red on some of the helmets in the photos throughout the page of former players holding their helmets. So without digging into this too deeply, I would assume the brighter red which the Badgers sport these days, was not dominate until the very early 70’s.

    I also found this link:
    http://farm4.static....

    …and if the color is right, it shows Bucky having a very dark red early in their football years. Charles Goldenberg was born in 1911, so if he played at the University of Wisconsin 18 years later, that is 1929, which would fit pretty close to the ’31 date you are inquiring about. Hope this helps a little.[/quote]
    They’re wearing a color that’s more of a scarlet (or just plain old red), but the official colors of the university are cardinal & white, aren’t they?

  • JTH | February 10, 2009 at 7:27 am |

    To clarify: nowadays, they’re wearing a color that’s more of a scarlet…

  • Matt L. | February 10, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    Toronto had a blue and white concepts going, even with dark blue/light blue on the Jays and Argos, before the Raptors showed up.

    Atlanta had a red theme going (Flames, Falcons, Hawks) though the Braves didn’t highlight that color too much.

    And for a while the St. Louis Blues bridged the Cardinals’ red with the Rams’ blue and yellow. That didn’t look so good.

  • chance | February 10, 2009 at 9:52 pm |

    [quote comment="314246"]To clarify: nowadays, they’re wearing a color that’s more of a scarlet…[/quote]

    Yep.

    The school’s official colors are cardinal and white, but they’ve worn a much brighter shade of red for the past several decades.

    I’d love to see the Badgers in cardinal again. Don’t much care for the maraschino cherry red they wear now.

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