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Uni Watch DIY Project: Getting Ready for Pitchers and Catchers

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New ESPN column today. But since I took Tuesday off, we’ll continue here as usual today.

So: Got a great note the other day from Rob Waynick (that’s him at right), who’s our latest DIYer. As you’ll see, his project was a full-on family affair:

My mother, who is a professional seamstress, used to sew the letters and numbers for authentic Red Wings jerseys that were sold by a local retailer here in Detroit. There were always tons of jerseys in my house when I was growing up, and it was HELL not to be able to wear and of them.

My father loved the Tigers, especially the 1968 team. His favorite tiger growing up was Mickey Stanley, who wore the number 24. He received this jersey from a friend of his — I remember him wearing it so much when I was younger that 24 became my favorite number. But after many years, the numbers and letters on the back eventually wore off, so my mom thought it be a good idea to re-do it. I cut out all the letters and numbers onto this iron-on paper [here’s a another view] and then ironed that onto the fabric, where they were then stitched on by my lovely and talented mother.

While working on that project, I thought it would be fun to create a T-shirt styled like Mickey Stanley’s 1968 road jersey. I used the same technique as for my father’s jersey, only this time I started from scratch. I purchased the T-shirts for $4 apiece at Target. The letters and numbers were cut from scrap material that my mother had (a seamstress makes for a great source — she has bins of fabric stacked to the ceiling). I also made one for my brother, who picked Al Kaline’s number. A simple design, but classic nonetheless.

Sadly, my father passed away six years ago. These jerseys were in honor of his memory.

Nice. You can see some additional pics from Rob’s project here.

Raffle Results: The winner of the Historic Football Posters raffle is Gabe Kleinfeld. Congrats to him, and better luck next time to everyone else. More raffles coming soon.

I’m an idiot for not having mentioned this ages ago: Uni Watch art director Scott M.X. Turner hosts a weekly Pub Quiz every Thursday night at 8pm at Rocky Sullivan’s in Red Hook. The weekly trivia series (which has its own Facebook group) features lots of prizes and even more plentiful good cheer — NYC-area readers should check it out.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Speaking of DIY stuff, Sarah Schlosser-Moon and her husband, Josh, have a great blog where they showcase their hand-sewn creations, including this 1957 Reds vest jersey that Josh recently made (plus Sarah says Josh is planning a video how-to tutorial!). Full details here. … As expected. … We often talk about baseball players wearing windbreakers under their jerseys, but what about a football player? Don Sherman says that photo is from a Giants/Saints game in 1984. … Don also provided new insights into why the Broncos lost Super Bowl XII: According to the next-to-last graf of this article, three Denver players wore the franchise’s old vertically striped socks for pregame warm-ups. Sounds apocryphal to me — anyone ever hear that story before? … Mike Durkin was wondering if this was a new Twins “M” logo, but I think it’s actually Joe Mauer’s personal logo, incorporating his uni number, 7. … My Page 2 colleauge Mary Buckheit had an article yesterday about beach volleyball becoming an NCAA-sanctioned sport, and the potential controversy that could ensue regarding bikinis. … This photo shows MLB umpires Bill Miller, Chris Tiller, Jim Joyce, and Tim Tschida in the Oakland umps’ lockerroom before a game. You think Tschida also wears NBA and NFL officiating gear? (Nice find by Roger Faso.) … This will be the Reds’ final spring training camp in Sarasota — which means, of course, a new logo. Not sure yet if they’ll be wearing that as a spring training patch, but I’m checking. … Awesome old NFL program available here (with thanks to the “other” Mike Hersh). … Better photos of those inauguration sneakers here (with thanks to Joshua Exline). … Check out this awesome Air Force helmet (nice find by Nick Wollen). … “On Sunday I caught a few races at Gulfstream Park in Florida and a jockey and horse wearing Red Sox silks and blinkers,” writes Scott Szymendera. “The horse is named Varitek (makes sense), the ownership group is ‘Red Sox Nation’ (also makes sense), and the jockey is Pedro Monterrey, Jr. (Pedro…well, doesn’t really makes sense). He went off at 85 to 1 and finished ninth.” … Here’s the latest on that old lady who found an valuable baseball card in her attic. … Kind of a big hat, no? Note that Larkin’s also wearing one of those Larkin “Say No to Drugs” wristbands (with thanks to David Soline). … Also from David: The NHL is testing a new net design. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Video of the Green Bay Packers basketball team here. … The Maple Leafs wore Ace Bailey patches for last night’s game (which also found Mikhail Grabovski showing a little skin). … Check out the “H” logo at the top of the Hammonton High School athletics page. Remind you of a certain XFL team? (Good spot by Jeff Landset.) … Interesting info about yellow cycling uniforms in the Tour de France here (thanks, Phil).

 

139 comments to Uni Watch DIY Project: Getting Ready for Pitchers and Catchers

  • who cares | January 22, 2009 at 7:41 am |

    There’s a photo of the new NHL net next to the article. Look to the right of the title.

  • Paulio | January 22, 2009 at 8:03 am |

    I wonder if Scott Boras is on the horn with the ownership group to get Varitek the horse a 8 figure contract saying that the horse is still an élite racer.

  • Ricko | January 22, 2009 at 8:19 am |

    So…any Twin Cities UWers crazy enough to either be playing in, or going to watch a bit of, the U.S. Pond Hockey Championships this weekend?

    I’m thinking about it, but would nice to run into another uni geek or two rather than stand around by myself (provided I can find all my wind gear, of course; gonna be a cold one).

    http://www.uspondhoc...

    —Ricko

  • Carlos | January 22, 2009 at 8:24 am |

    It’s Tim Tschida, isn’t it?

  • Ricko | January 22, 2009 at 8:31 am |

    Pond Hockey Championship’s official colors are Navy, Ice Blue and Cardinal, btw.

    —Ricko

  • Paul Lukas | January 22, 2009 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”311109″]It’s Tim Tschida, isn’t it?[/quote]

    Yup. Now fixed. Thanks.

  • James R | January 22, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    http://devils.nhl.co...

    Boyle nameplate looks like it was photo-shopped on

  • Paul Lukas | January 22, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”311112″]Hillcrest High in Simpsonville SC has been using the XFL H also.[/quote]

    That’s even weirder, because the other h.s. is in New Jersey, so at least they had a regional connection to the NJ/NY Hitmen.

  • Natron | January 22, 2009 at 9:17 am |

    In reference to the hat/shirt Joe Mauer is wearing… Yes, it it his own logo.

    He and his family run a series of hitting clinics in St. Paul to promote their Quickswing hitting device. The “7M” logog is actually incorporated into this.

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 22, 2009 at 9:20 am |

    Mother that is a seamstress…love for jerseys…love making them yourself…this story sounds very familiar! ;)

    Rob – you need a heat press in your house with all of those resources you have available to you…trust me!

  • jc | January 22, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    the thing about hillcrest high in sc, the helmet that the h replaced was a ram’s horn logo al a st lou and colorado state…big downgrade if you ask me

  • John T | January 22, 2009 at 9:42 am |

    Don’t know if this was posted yesterday, but here is the hat that Spike Lee wore to the festivities in Washington. His wife was ashamed of it and said that she did not want him to wear it. The commentators basically made fun of it.
    I think he said it was one of his designs, if it was, why would he admit it?

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Tall Paul | January 22, 2009 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”311114″][quote comment=”311112″]Hillcrest High in Simpsonville SC has been using the XFL H also.[/quote]

    That’s even weirder, because the other h.s. is in New Jersey, so at least they had a regional connection to the NJ/NY Hitmen.[/quote]

    While I acknowledge that the XFL never had the broad appeal of the NFL it’s really not that different than any high school adopting a professional or college team’s logo if it’s something they like…local/regional to the team using the logo or not…

    Bethany, OK Bronchos (My apologies for the purple and white): http://www.bethanysc... No known connection to Baltimore or Indianapolis.

    Jones, OK Longhorns: http://sports.newson... How in the world they, in the land of the Oklahoma Sooners, decided upon using the Texas Longhorns name and logo is completely beyond me.

    And, as we all know, there are countless other examples as previously discussed in this forum.

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 9:51 am |

    Nice to see the Leafs honouring Bailey during the week of the All-Star Game.

    His story needs to be learned by all hockey fans.

  • Nathan | January 22, 2009 at 10:11 am |

    a seamstress makes for a great source — she bins of fabric stacked to the ceiling

    shouldnt that be “she HAS bins of fabric”?

  • bill | January 22, 2009 at 10:15 am |

    Random comment. I am a USA Swimming official, as my daughter is a swimmer. I received a notification that USA Swimming has banned full body suits for 12 and under swimmers in an attempt to stem a small (but growing) tide of young athletes purchasing high end suits. So now Speedo LZR and Fastskin suits are banned from the tweener market. Good news, as it is ridiculous for virtually every swimmer of that age to worry about shaving time via a swim suit. Here’s a snippet of the rule.

    A Swimsuits worn for all 12 & under age group defined competition shall not cover the neck, extend past the shoulder, nor past the knee.

    B Swimsuits worn for competition must be non-transparent and conform to the current concept of the appropriate.

    C The Referee shall have the authority to bar offenders from the competition until they comply with the rule.

  • Flip | January 22, 2009 at 10:16 am |

    I’m an idiot for not having mentioning this every day, but another excellent entry. Those Tiger grays were terrific.

  • Sebs | January 22, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    Hebron High School, right outside Dallas, Texas, uses the Hitmen H, too.

  • LI Phil | January 22, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”311120″]Nice to see the Leafs honouring Bailey during the week of the All-Star Game.

    His story needs to be learned by all hockey fans.[/quote]

    everytime i hear aboot bailey now, im reminded of this, which i listened to live and was laughing so hard while driving i nearly rear ended the guy in front of me:

    On radio station WFAN in New York, host Chris (Mad Dog) Russo mentioned to Bettman that he had tuned into NHL Network and had been “riveted” by the Ace Bailey-Eddie Shore story.

    In 1933, Shore, the Boston Bruins’ defenceman, hit Bailey from behind, smashing his head to the ice.

    The Toronto Maple Leafs’ forward almost died and never played again.

    Bettman picked up the story from there.

    “And, the tragic end to that story is, he, Ace Bailey, was on one of the planes on 9/11.”

    “Are you kidding me?” Russo asked.

    “No,” Bettman said.

    “How old was he? Eighty?”

    “I don’t think he was quite that old,” Bettman said.

    Actually, Bailey would have been 98 on September, 2001, except that he had died nine years earlier.

    see the problem is, bettman is an idiot and russo is almost as big of an idiot…Irvine Wallace “Ace” Bailey was the toronto star whose career was ended by eddie shore…Garnet (Ace) Bailey was on one of the planes that hit the twin towers…garnet was a former nhl player and a LA kings scout…he was 53 and not related to the first ace…

    and yes, the (first) real ace‘s story is a must-know

    old time hockey

  • Smail | January 22, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    If you really stare at the Larkin hat, you can see the remnants of the wishbone-C they covered up.

  • Juan Grande | January 22, 2009 at 10:32 am |

    Mentalfloss scores again….

    Old college nickname quiz

    http://mentalfloss.c...

    I got 11/12

  • BrianC | January 22, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    Ironically, Ace Bailey outlived Eddie Shore…

  • Juan Grande | January 22, 2009 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”311107″]I wonder if Scott Boras is on the horn with the ownership group to get Varitek the horse a 8 figure contract saying that the horse is still an élite racer.[/quote]

    The horse ran as well as Tek played last season. I’m sure that the horse has a “great mind” for racing and “calls a great game” for the other horses to run.

  • Johnny O | January 22, 2009 at 10:38 am |

    Anyone get a Super Bowl program yet?

    http://www.nflshop.c...

    I want to know if the SB logo for next year is in this program like years past.

  • Juan Grande | January 22, 2009 at 10:43 am |

    Star Wars and sports… what a great combo! And it makes for some interesting uni designs!

    http://www.galacticb...

  • Stuby | January 22, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”311127″]Mentalfloss scores again….

    Old college nickname quiz

    http://mentalfloss.c...

    I got 11/12[/quote]
    Eh. I only got 7/12, but I got 14/15 on the Sitcom Setting Quiz!

  • Jeff | January 22, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    Mmmm…..so stripey:

    http://www.shorpy.co...

  • Jeff | January 22, 2009 at 10:46 am |
  • JTH | January 22, 2009 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”311120″]Nice to see the Leafs honouring Bailey during the week of the All-Star Game.

    His story needs to be learned by all hockey fans.[/quote]
    Someone with a hockey blog (in Canada) ought to write something about him. Especially with the All-Star Game coming up…

  • Richard | January 22, 2009 at 11:07 am |

    That old Air Force football uniform looks strangely like a combination of the Chargers white helmets and the Colts home uniforms…(as if Peyton Manning grabbed Phillip Rivers’ helmet and tried it on). Right now Duke’s uniforms are a complete copy of the Colts…(Manning’s old college OC is the head coach there).

  • Terri | January 22, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”311132″][quote comment=”311127″]Mentalfloss scores again….

    Old college nickname quiz

    http://mentalfloss.c...

    I got 11/12[/quote]
    Eh. I only got 7/12, but I got 14/15 on the Sitcom Setting Quiz![/quote]

    We won’t talk about what I got on the college nicknames quiz, but you can’t say I don’t know my Saved by the Bell- 14/15!

  • Glen | January 22, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    I never get sick of seeing this

    http://mentalfloss.c...

  • Matthew Robins | January 22, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    New Blackhawks 3rds next season!

    http://fifthfeather....

  • Squiddie | January 22, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    Tim Tschida is from Minnesota (went to Cretin) and lives in Wisconsin. It’s no surprise he’s wearing the NHL gear.

  • Duck | January 22, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”311139″]New Blackhawks 3rds next season!

    http://fifthfeather....
    [quote comment=”311139″]New Blackhawks 3rds next season!

    http://fifthfeather....

    Looks like their puting the shoulder patch on as well, good move.

    http://www.dailyhera...

  • JTH | January 22, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”311139″]New Blackhawks 3rds next season!

    http://fifthfeather....
    Hmmmm….
    [quote]The only addition to the jersey the Hawks wore at Wrigley Field will be tomahawks on the shoulders.[/quote]
    Just tomahawks or the C with the crossed tomahawks? I’m guessing he meant the latter. Either way, I like it. Although, I’d prefer to see them use the modern crest rather than the 1930s-inspired crest.

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”311135″][quote comment=”311120″]Nice to see the Leafs honouring Bailey during the week of the All-Star Game.

    His story needs to be learned by all hockey fans.[/quote]
    Someone with a hockey blog (in Canada) ought to write something about him. Especially with the All-Star Game coming up…[/quote]

    Someone with a hockey blog had it covered on Tuesday. ;o)

  • Paul Lukas | January 22, 2009 at 11:40 am |

    Today’s ESPN column is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Chris | January 22, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    Those old wristbands that Larkin is wearing bring back some good memories! They were made by M&M Bandits out of California, which to my knowledge was a mom and pop outfit. My brother and I were in love with them the day that Strawberry started wearing them. Luckily on a trip across country in 1986, we visited Busch Stadium and to our absolute surprise (and delight) they had Jack Clark and Ozzie Smith wristbands for sale!! So we purchased them with our hard earned money naturally. When we returned home, we schemed and figured that the nice people at the St. Louis Cardinals team store would know who manufactured them, since they purchased them. My brother called and presto, we had the phone number of M & M Bandits! We gave them a call, they mailed us a catalog (phote copied paper, 1 page) with all of the available bands. It was pure heaven! We bought quite a few and I still have them if you’d like me to photograph them and scan them Paul. I wonder if anyone else out there has any of these?

  • KW | January 22, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned before (I am sure it has) but are there any photos of this…

    “a radical change was proposed in 1974. Marty Appel, in his book Now Pitching for the Yankees, describes the proposed uniforms:[24]

    “ In 1974 I walked into (then-General Manager) Gabe Paul’s office to find samples of new Yankee road uniforms draped across his sofa. They were the opposite of the home pinstripes — they were navy blue with white pinstripes. The NY logo was in white. Gabe liked them. I nearly fainted. Although the drab gray road uniforms were not exciting, with the plain NEW YORK across the chest, they were just as much the Yankees’ look as were the home uniforms. I think my dramatic disdain helped saved (sic) the day and saved the Yankees from wearing those awful pajamas on the field. “”

  • EAL | January 22, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    Random question(s) here, but I figured this would be the place to ask: does anyone know when the fan replica jersey first started to replace business/casual wear as the predominant “dress code” for professional sporting events? Which sport started this trend? Thanks in advance, I’m a long-time reader of the site and a member of the silent majority of the hockey wing :) In fact, it was at Monday’s Hawks-Wild game (where I was wearing my Wild jersey and my boyfriend was wearing his Patrick Kane Winter Classic replica) that the thought came to me and I’ve been trying to google an answer since with no luck.

  • Jim | January 22, 2009 at 12:36 pm |

    Patriots announce a 50th season logo for next year. Press release doesn’t expressly indicate it will be used on uniforms:

    http://www.patriots....

  • Chad | January 22, 2009 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”311121″]a seamstress makes for a great source — she bins of fabric stacked to the ceiling

    shouldnt that be “she HAS bins of fabric”?[/quote]

    your on hte wrung syte. grammor wotch is arownd ta cornur

  • Happy Joe | January 22, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”311148″]Patriots announce a 50th season logo for next year. Press release doesn’t expressly indicate it will be used on uniforms:

    http://www.patriots....
    Jim beat me to it.
    I like the logo, but am concerned that it might be too big for a chest patch.
    There is also a survey at the same post regarding preference for the old Pat Patriot Logo v. Flying Elvis. Pat is beating Elvis 69 % to 31%.

  • Peter | January 22, 2009 at 1:01 pm |

    “silent majority”

    I love Richard Nixon references!!

    besides…I LIke the stripping on this Gerald Ford pic!

    http://cache.daylife...

  • K in PA | January 22, 2009 at 1:03 pm |

    Pittsburgh Pirates to unveil new alternate jersey tomorrow: http://pittsburgh.pi...

    What they are not telling you is that’s not all they will unveil….

  • Ryan Connelly 40 | January 22, 2009 at 1:05 pm |

    in the picture of the new ref uniforms for the nhl all star game the ref is wearing reebok skates and a reebok helmet, and the jersy is made by ccm. just struck me as funny…

  • Josh | January 22, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    New NHL ref jerseys = not so bad. Don’t know that we need to change them, but at least it was nothing too dramatic. The underarm orange stripe will be visible on delayed penalty, which actualy may prove to be a nice touch. Of course, we won’t find out this weekend, as I’m not expecting much in the way of penalties at the All Star Game…

  • Ricko | January 22, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”311136″]That old Air Force football uniform looks strangely like a combination of the Chargers white helmets and the Colts home uniforms…(as if Peyton Manning grabbed Phillip Rivers’ helmet and tried it on). Right now Duke’s uniforms are a complete copy of the Colts…(Manning’s old college OC is the head coach there).[/quote]

    Actually, that helmet was around before the Chargers ever existed. Air Force Academy football was almost brand-new, and for their first uniforms they virtually replicated the then-NFL champion Colts, but borrowed the helmet lightning bolt of the CFL’s Winnipeg Blue Bombers (theirs was a white–or gold, depending on you talk to–bolt on a blue helmet).

    Chargers took their inspiration from Air Force and the Blue Bombers, altering the helmet bolt to sit higher on the helmet, of course, and going them two-better by incorporating the bolt into the shoulder loops and using it instead of a stripe on the their pants.

    —Ricko

  • Peter | January 22, 2009 at 1:28 pm |

    Since the Patsies are 50….doesn’t that mean the JETS should be 50 as well…we do honor the Titans years…and hopefully better than the stupid NYXL for the “40 years” in 2003…which only 40 years of the Jets and not the franchise…(or any other AFL team from 1960…)

  • db | January 22, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    I am a first-time poster (although I do read the comments throughout the day- kind of creepy like a stalker- )I am not one to really contribute as much as just sit back and enjoy, but I was drinking a Dr. Pepper with lunch today and I saw a logo on the bottle advertising this site http://www.mlgpro.co... and I thought the logo was interesting. Forgive me if this has been mentioned here before…

  • Zach | January 22, 2009 at 1:47 pm |

    isnt that ump wearing an NHL ref jersey?

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”311158″]isnt that ump wearing an NHL ref jersey?[/quote]

    Isn’t that NHL ref wearing an NFL officials’ jersey? LOL

  • Zach | January 22, 2009 at 2:05 pm |

    sigh…hockey gets no love

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”311160″]sigh…hockey gets no love[/quote]

    You do realize I made that comment about the NHL refs looking like they should be on an NFL field, right?

    Hockey gets love from me, I assure you. ;o)

  • Zach | January 22, 2009 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”311161″][quote comment=”311160″]sigh…hockey gets no love[/quote]

    You do realize I made that comment about the NHL refs looking like they should be on an NFL field, right?

    Hockey gets love from me, I assure you. ;o)[/quote]

    Yea i kno thats why i said it i wish there was more hockey

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”311162″][quote comment=”311161″][quote comment=”311160″]sigh…hockey gets no love[/quote]

    You do realize I made that comment about the NHL refs looking like they should be on an NFL field, right?

    Hockey gets love from me, I assure you. ;o)[/quote]

    Yea i kno thats why i said it i wish there was more hockey[/quote]

    OHHHH… gotcha. There are other places that feature more hockey talk that are linked on this very comment. LOL

  • Jim MI | January 22, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    My take on the new shape nets:
    Really wish the NHL would leave the nets alone. There are plenty of ways to increase scoring without touching the nets. (cough)goalie equipment(cough) Changing the nets would drastically change the game to where it almost wouldn’t even be comparable to past eras, even less comparable then they already are…. Please don’t touch the nets…. Pretty please.

    NHL Ref unis:
    Trying to fix something that’s not broken.

    Gary Bettman:
    What a total idiot. It was 2 people of LA’s scouting staff that were a a part of World Trade Center. One of the guys was Garnet Bailey, who’s nickname was ‘Ace’. Get it? Ace Bailey? Different Guy Bettman… good job.

    The REAL Ace Bailey:

    Everyone should read up on him, Teebz is right. A story every hockey fan should know.

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”311164″]My take on the new shape nets:
    Really wish the NHL would leave the nets alone. There are plenty of ways to increase scoring without touching the nets. (cough)goalie equipment(cough) Changing the nets would drastically change the game to where it almost wouldn’t even be comparable to past eras, even less comparable then they already are…. Please don’t touch the nets…. Pretty please.[/quote]

    I’ll go one further: make the rinks international-sized. Stop whining and complaining about losing four rows of mostly-unfilled seats because the average fan can’t afford them. Make the change, open up some space, and scoring will come back.

    [quote comment=”311164″]NHL Ref unis:
    Trying to fix something that’s not broken.[/quote]

    This is the third attempt at “fixing” the refs’ uniforms. STOP EFFING WITH AN ICONIC LOOK!

    [quote comment=”311164″]Gary Bettman:
    What a total idiot. It was 2 people of LA’s scouting staff that were a a part of World Trade Center. One of the guys was Garnet Bailey, who’s nickname was ‘Ace’. Get it? Ace Bailey? Different Guy Bettman… good job.[/quote]

    Careful, Jim. I got chastised for for ripping on Buccigross yesterday. You don’t want your hands slapped, do you? LOL

    [quote comment=”311164″]The REAL Ace Bailey:

    Everyone should read up on him, Teebz is right. A story every hockey fan should know.[/quote]

    I just found out that the Leafs raised over $23,000 for Bailey – a huge sum of money in 1934!

  • SteveABQ | January 22, 2009 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”311122″]Random comment. I am a USA Swimming official, as my daughter is a swimmer. I received a notification that USA Swimming has banned full body suits for 12 and under swimmers in an attempt to stem a small (but growing) tide of young athletes purchasing high end suits. So now Speedo LZR and Fastskin suits are banned from the tweener market. Good news, as it is ridiculous for virtually every swimmer of that age to worry about shaving time via a swim suit. quote]

    Hehe interesting, c’mon though you know that there is some parent(s) out there with credit card in hand waiting to buy the same suit for their kid that Phelps wore in the Olympics.

  • skott daltonic | January 22, 2009 at 2:32 pm |

    big fan of the new patriots patch. stoked to hear that they’re wearing the red uni’s in 09…

  • LI Phil | January 22, 2009 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”311160″]sigh…hockey gets no love[/quote]

    awww…here ya go

  • JAson | January 22, 2009 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”311145″]Those old wristbands that Larkin is wearing bring back some good memories! They were made by M&M Bandits out of California, which to my knowledge was a mom and pop outfit. My brother and I were in love with them the day that Strawberry started wearing them. Luckily on a trip across country in 1986, we visited Busch Stadium and to our absolute surprise (and delight) they had Jack Clark and Ozzie Smith wristbands for sale!! So we purchased them with our hard earned money naturally. When we returned home, we schemed and figured that the nice people at the St. Louis Cardinals team store would know who manufactured them, since they purchased them. My brother called and presto, we had the phone number of M & M Bandits! We gave them a call, they mailed us a catalog (phote copied paper, 1 page) with all of the available bands. It was pure heaven! We bought quite a few and I still have them if you’d like me to photograph them and scan them Paul. I wonder if anyone else out there has any of these?[/quote]

    Merle Harmon’s Fan Fare at the Estland Mall in Columbus used to sell them. They had Larkin & Eric Davis for the Reds. Joe Carter & Cory Snyder for the Indians. Even though Snyder was my favorite player, I got a Carter because he actually wore them. Still have it to this day.

  • Hott Rodd | January 22, 2009 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”311148″]Patriots announce a 50th season logo for next year. Press release doesn’t expressly indicate it will be used on uniforms:

    http://www.patriots....

    The Hall at Patriot Place presented by Raytheon

    nice.

  • MPowers1634 | January 22, 2009 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”311116″]Mother that is a seamstress…love for jerseys…love making them yourself…this story sounds very familiar! ;)

    Rob – you need a heat press in your house with all of those resources you have available to you…trust me![/quote]

    They are CRAZY expensive though! The iron-on paper works pretty well with an iron!

  • The Hemogoblin | January 22, 2009 at 3:40 pm |

    It’s not “an valuable” as you said in the ticker, Paul… it’s “a valuable”.

  • MPowers1634 | January 22, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”311137″][quote comment=”311132″][quote comment=”311127″]Mentalfloss scores again….

    Old college nickname quiz

    http://mentalfloss.c...

    I got 11/12[/quote]
    Eh. I only got 7/12, but I got 14/15 on the Sitcom Setting Quiz![/quote]

    We won’t talk about what I got on the college nicknames quiz, but you can’t say I don’t know my Saved by the Bell- 14/15![/quote]

    MY one major problem with that show…what was Screech’s last name???

  • Will Morris | January 22, 2009 at 3:52 pm |

    Not only do the Blue Devils of Hammonton use the Hitmen H, but the Tartans of Highland Regional High School do as well. Two teams within, maybe a 45-minute drive?

  • The Hemogoblin | January 22, 2009 at 3:56 pm |

    One of these days, I’ll post something useful again.

    Until then… carry on.

  • Bizzle | January 22, 2009 at 4:16 pm |

    Does anybody have the leaked Texas Rangers jersey link anywhere? I’m dying to get a sneak peek.

  • Jim MI | January 22, 2009 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”311165″][quote comment=”311164″]My take on the new shape nets:
    Really wish the NHL would leave the nets alone. There are plenty of ways to increase scoring without touching the nets. (cough)goalie equipment(cough) Changing the nets would drastically change the game to where it almost wouldn’t even be comparable to past eras, even less comparable then they already are…. Please don’t touch the nets…. Pretty please.[/quote]

    I’ll go one further: make the rinks international-sized. Stop whining and complaining about losing four rows of mostly-unfilled seats because the average fan can’t afford them. Make the change, open up some space, and scoring will come back.

    [quote comment=”311164″]NHL Ref unis:
    Trying to fix something that’s not broken.[/quote]

    This is the third attempt at “fixing” the refs’ uniforms. STOP EFFING WITH AN ICONIC LOOK!

    [quote comment=”311164″]Gary Bettman:
    What a total idiot. It was 2 people of LA’s scouting staff that were a a part of World Trade Center. One of the guys was Garnet Bailey, who’s nickname was ‘Ace’. Get it? Ace Bailey? Different Guy Bettman… good job.[/quote]

    Careful, Jim. I got chastised for for ripping on Buccigross yesterday. You don’t want your hands slapped, do you? LOL

    [quote comment=”311164″]The REAL Ace Bailey:

    Everyone should read up on him, Teebz is right. A story every hockey fan should know.[/quote]

    I just found out that the Leafs raised over $23,000 for Bailey – a huge sum of money in 1934![/quote]

    About international rinks, I wouldn’t want to see that either, but I’d take that over bigger nets seeing it’s become more of an international game than it used to be.

    Yea, saw the Bucci ripping you did, I personally like his passion for the game, one of the few at ESPN that gives hockey respect. If I get slapped around for calling Bettman an idiot so be it…. he’s still an idiot.

    Watched that TOR and BOS game last night, good game, come from behind win for BOS. Both teams wearing their thirds, and nice ACE patch to match!

    Long live hockey!!

  • JTH | January 22, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”311173″][quote comment=”311137″][quote comment=”311132″][quote comment=”311127″]Mentalfloss scores again….

    Old college nickname quiz

    http://mentalfloss.c...

    I got 11/12[/quote]
    Eh. I only got 7/12, but I got 14/15 on the Sitcom Setting Quiz![/quote]

    We won’t talk about what I got on the college nicknames quiz, but you can’t say I don’t know my Saved by the Bell- 14/15![/quote]

    MY one major problem with that show…what was Screech’s last name???[/quote]
    Did your namesake set the bar of coolness a little too high for you to reach?

  • Ricko | January 22, 2009 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”311173″][quote comment=”311137″][quote comment=”311132″][quote comment=”311127″]Mentalfloss scores again….

    Old college nickname quiz

    http://mentalfloss.c...

    I got 11/12[/quote]
    Eh. I only got 7/12, but I got 14/15 on the Sitcom Setting Quiz![/quote]

    We won’t talk about what I got on the college nicknames quiz, but you can’t say I don’t know my Saved by the Bell- 14/15![/quote]

    MY one major problem with that show…what was Screech’s last name???[/quote]

    “Beecher-Treacher.”

    He was related to both American novelist Harriet Beecher Stowe and British character actor Arthur Treacher.

    Nahhh…it was Powers, as if you didn’t know. LOL

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | January 22, 2009 at 4:47 pm |

    And of course there was the episode when he found religion and wanted to be called…

    Screech “Preacher” Beecher-Treacher.

    —Ricko

  • werthj | January 22, 2009 at 4:50 pm |

    I have a question for the DIYers.
    I am looking to do something similar to what Rob did (very nice, btw). I am looking to create Jayson Werth ‘jersey t-shirts’ covering all his career thus far. I might have just bought them, but you can’t customize a previous player on a teams t-shirt over at shop.mlb.com. Not to mention the Majestic logo on the chest. I have bought the logo t-shirts thru another source.
    http://www.baseballs...
    I now have to get the NOB and number on there myself. How would you suggest I best go about this? Thanks for the help!

  • BS | January 22, 2009 at 4:57 pm |

    Hillsborough High School in the Tampa area also used the Hitmen H, IIRC.

    But now use just a block H:
    http://www.mghelmets...

    Also, great 1925 shot of the school’s team: http://fcit.usf.edu/...

  • Nick | January 22, 2009 at 5:13 pm |

    the Cincinnati Reds unveiled a new female mascot Rosie Red on Thursday. The new mascot is in a 1940s style uni.

    Photos are online in this Cincinnati Enquirer gallery

    Background info here from the Reds

  • Chris | January 22, 2009 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”311146″]Don’t know if this has been mentioned before (I am sure it has) but are there any photos of this…

    “a radical change was proposed in 1974. Marty Appel, in his book Now Pitching for the Yankees, describes the proposed uniforms:[24]

    “ In 1974 I walked into (then-General Manager) Gabe Paul’s office to find samples of new Yankee road uniforms draped across his sofa. They were the opposite of the home pinstripes — they were navy blue with white pinstripes. The NY logo was in white. Gabe liked them. I nearly fainted. Although the drab gray road uniforms were not exciting, with the plain NEW YORK across the chest, they were just as much the Yankees’ look as were the home uniforms. I think my dramatic disdain helped saved (sic) the day and saved the Yankees from wearing those awful pajamas on the field. “”[/quote]
    On the MLB Shop, they are selling jerseys that match this description, but with NOB http://shop.mlb.com/.... Also, non-uni but still interesting: http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Chris | January 22, 2009 at 5:21 pm |
  • Jeff P | January 22, 2009 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”311165″][quote comment=”311164″]My take on the new shape nets:
    Really wish the NHL would leave the nets alone. There are plenty of ways to increase scoring without touching the nets. (cough)goalie equipment(cough) Changing the nets would drastically change the game to where it almost wouldn’t even be comparable to past eras, even less comparable then they already are…. Please don’t touch the nets…. Pretty please.[/quote]

    I’ll go one further: make the rinks international-sized. Stop whining and complaining about losing four rows of mostly-unfilled seats because the average fan can’t afford them. Make the change, open up some space, and scoring will come back.

    [quote comment=”311164″]NHL Ref unis:
    Trying to fix something that’s not broken.[/quote]

    This is the third attempt at “fixing” the refs’ uniforms. STOP EFFING WITH AN ICONIC LOOK!

    [quote comment=”311164″]Gary Bettman:
    What a total idiot. It was 2 people of LA’s scouting staff that were a a part of World Trade Center. One of the guys was Garnet Bailey, who’s nickname was ‘Ace’. Get it? Ace Bailey? Different Guy Bettman… good job.[/quote]

    Careful, Jim. I got chastised for for ripping on Buccigross yesterday. You don’t want your hands slapped, do you? LOL

    [quote comment=”311164″]The REAL Ace Bailey:

    Everyone should read up on him, Teebz is right. A story every hockey fan should know.[/quote]

    I just found out that the Leafs raised over $23,000 for Bailey – a huge sum of money in 1934![/quote]

    Well, they are international sized now, since the IIHF has decided to go to the 200x 85 for all future tournaments. And it’s more then 4 rows of seating. It’s rebuilding the entire structure of most arenas, with sightlines, seating angles, so on and so forth. You would have to rebuilt a lot of arenas, and completely scrap others. That’s not ever going to happen. In fact, there is only one arena that would not be significantly affected, GM place, because they built it anticipating Olympics.

    As for nets, why? Really, why? Scoring and such is fine as is. Let the game be for a few years.

  • joe | January 22, 2009 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”311177″][quote comment=”311165″][quote comment=”311164″]My take on the new shape nets:
    Really wish the NHL would leave the nets alone. There are plenty of ways to increase scoring without touching the nets. (cough)goalie equipment(cough) Changing the nets would drastically change the game to where it almost wouldn’t even be comparable to past eras, even less comparable then they already are…. Please don’t touch the nets…. Pretty please.[/quote]

    I’ll go one further: make the rinks international-sized. Stop whining and complaining about losing four rows of mostly-unfilled seats because the average fan can’t afford them. Make the change, open up some space, and scoring will come back.

    [quote comment=”311164″]NHL Ref unis:
    Trying to fix something that’s not broken.[/quote]

    This is the third attempt at “fixing” the refs’ uniforms. STOP EFFING WITH AN ICONIC LOOK!

    [quote comment=”311164″]Gary Bettman:
    What a total idiot. It was 2 people of LA’s scouting staff that were a a part of World Trade Center. One of the guys was Garnet Bailey, who’s nickname was ‘Ace’. Get it? Ace Bailey? Different Guy Bettman… good job.[/quote]

    Careful, Jim. I got chastised for for ripping on Buccigross yesterday. You don’t want your hands slapped, do you? LOL

    [quote comment=”311164″]The REAL Ace Bailey:

    Everyone should read up on him, Teebz is right. A story every hockey fan should know.[/quote]

    I just found out that the Leafs raised over $23,000 for Bailey – a huge sum of money in 1934![/quote]

    About international rinks, I wouldn’t want to see that either, but I’d take that over bigger nets seeing it’s become more of an international game than it used to be.

    Yea, saw the Bucci ripping you did, I personally like his passion for the game, one of the few at ESPN that gives hockey respect. If I get slapped around for calling Bettman an idiot so be it…. he’s still an idiot.

    Watched that TOR and BOS game last night, good game, come from behind win for BOS. Both teams wearing their thirds, and nice ACE patch to match!

    Long live hockey!![/quote]
    screw bigger nets or international ice. give teams a little freedom like in the past, I want chicago to go back to 185×80 ice. Let teams have a min/max on sizes. Build your team to your rink.

  • Ricko | January 22, 2009 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”311183″]the Cincinnati Reds unveiled a new female mascot Rosie Red on Thursday. The new mascot is in a 1940s style uni.

    Photos are online in this Cincinnati Enquirer gallery

    Background info here from the Reds[/quote]

    Hard to believe someone in a Reds marketing meeting said, “Know what, we should have mascot that reminds people of Rosie O’Donnell.”

    Even harder to believe someone else said,
    “What a great idea!”

    —Ricko
    (shakes head, walks away muttering)

  • The Hemogoblin | January 22, 2009 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”311187″][quote comment=”311177″][quote comment=”311165″][quote comment=”311164″]My take on the new shape nets:
    Really wish the NHL would leave the nets alone. There are plenty of ways to increase scoring without touching the nets. (cough)goalie equipment(cough) Changing the nets would drastically change the game to where it almost wouldn’t even be comparable to past eras, even less comparable then they already are…. Please don’t touch the nets…. Pretty please.[/quote]

    I’ll go one further: make the rinks international-sized. Stop whining and complaining about losing four rows of mostly-unfilled seats because the average fan can’t afford them. Make the change, open up some space, and scoring will come back.

    [quote comment=”311164″]NHL Ref unis:
    Trying to fix something that’s not broken.[/quote]

    This is the third attempt at “fixing” the refs’ uniforms. STOP EFFING WITH AN ICONIC LOOK!

    [quote comment=”311164″]Gary Bettman:
    What a total idiot. It was 2 people of LA’s scouting staff that were a a part of World Trade Center. One of the guys was Garnet Bailey, who’s nickname was ‘Ace’. Get it? Ace Bailey? Different Guy Bettman… good job.[/quote]

    Careful, Jim. I got chastised for for ripping on Buccigross yesterday. You don’t want your hands slapped, do you? LOL

    [quote comment=”311164″]The REAL Ace Bailey:

    Everyone should read up on him, Teebz is right. A story every hockey fan should know.[/quote]

    I just found out that the Leafs raised over $23,000 for Bailey – a huge sum of money in 1934![/quote]

    About international rinks, I wouldn’t want to see that either, but I’d take that over bigger nets seeing it’s become more of an international game than it used to be.

    Yea, saw the Bucci ripping you did, I personally like his passion for the game, one of the few at ESPN that gives hockey respect. If I get slapped around for calling Bettman an idiot so be it…. he’s still an idiot.

    Watched that TOR and BOS game last night, good game, come from behind win for BOS. Both teams wearing their thirds, and nice ACE patch to match!

    Long live hockey!![/quote]
    screw bigger nets or international ice. give teams a little freedom like in the past, I want chicago to go back to 185×80 ice. Let teams have a min/max on sizes. Build your team to your rink.[/quote]

    There’s a lot to be said for that… Bobby Orr wouldn’t have been quite as good if it wasn’t for the short ice at the Garden…

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”311186″]
    Well, they are international sized now, since the IIHF has decided to go to the 200x 85 for all future tournaments. And it’s more then 4 rows of seating. It’s rebuilding the entire structure of most arenas, with sightlines, seating angles, so on and so forth. You would have to rebuilt a lot of arenas, and completely scrap others. That’s not ever going to happen. In fact, there is only one arena that would not be significantly affected, GM place, because they built it anticipating Olympics.
    [/quote]

    They’re nowhere close to being international-sized. The standard NHL arena, including GM Place in Vancouver, is 200×85. This has been well-documented in that the international game will have to adapt to a smaller rink.

    The standard Olympic rink size is 200×98.

    Do you really think that sight lines would be affected by widening the rink by 13 feet, or 6.5 feet on either side? If you do, you either play in a terribly-designed new arena, or an obsolete old arena. The sight lines argument is BS. No more and no less.

    And since most new arenas are built with retractable lower bowl seating for concerts and such, that argument doesn’t work either.

  • MPowers1634 | January 22, 2009 at 5:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”311187″][quote comment=”311177″][quote comment=”311165″][quote comment=”311164″]My take on the new shape nets:
    Really wish the NHL would leave the nets alone. There are plenty of ways to increase scoring without touching the nets. (cough)goalie equipment(cough) Changing the nets would drastically change the game to where it almost wouldn’t even be comparable to past eras, even less comparable then they already are…. Please don’t touch the nets…. Pretty please.[/quote]

    I’ll go one further: make the rinks international-sized. Stop whining and complaining about losing four rows of mostly-unfilled seats because the average fan can’t afford them. Make the change, open up some space, and scoring will come back.

    [quote comment=”311164″]NHL Ref unis:
    Trying to fix something that’s not broken.[/quote]

    This is the third attempt at “fixing” the refs’ uniforms. STOP EFFING WITH AN ICONIC LOOK!

    [quote comment=”311164″]Gary Bettman:
    What a total idiot. It was 2 people of LA’s scouting staff that were a a part of World Trade Center. One of the guys was Garnet Bailey, who’s nickname was ‘Ace’. Get it? Ace Bailey? Different Guy Bettman… good job.[/quote]

    Careful, Jim. I got chastised for for ripping on Buccigross yesterday. You don’t want your hands slapped, do you? LOL

    [quote comment=”311164″]The REAL Ace Bailey:

    Everyone should read up on him, Teebz is right. A story every hockey fan should know.[/quote]

    I just found out that the Leafs raised over $23,000 for Bailey – a huge sum of money in 1934![/quote]

    About international rinks, I wouldn’t want to see that either, but I’d take that over bigger nets seeing it’s become more of an international game than it used to be.

    Yea, saw the Bucci ripping you did, I personally like his passion for the game, one of the few at ESPN that gives hockey respect. If I get slapped around for calling Bettman an idiot so be it…. he’s still an idiot.

    Watched that TOR and BOS game last night, good game, come from behind win for BOS. Both teams wearing their thirds, and nice ACE patch to match!

    Long live hockey!![/quote]
    screw bigger nets or international ice. give teams a little freedom like in the past, I want chicago to go back to 185×80 ice. Let teams have a min/max on sizes. Build your team to your rink.[/quote]

    Similar to the 98’Rams. “The greatest team on turf”.

  • =bg= | January 22, 2009 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”311148″]Patriots announce a 50th season logo for next year. Press release doesn’t expressly indicate it will be used on uniforms:

    http://www.patriots....

    Aren’t the Pats ditching silver alt and going throwback as alt for 2009?

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”311189″]
    There’s a lot to be said for that… Bobby Orr wouldn’t have been quite as good if it wasn’t for the short ice at the Garden…[/quote]

    You know, he scored all of his 915 in Boston only?

    Forget the arenas in Oshawa where he destroyed OHA records. He could only score in Boston where they had a little rink.

    He scored 135 points in the 1974-75 season. Unless more than 70% of those points came in Boston, I’d say he had no trouble scoring in the other 11 rinks as well.

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”311193″][quote comment=”311189″]
    There’s a lot to be said for that… Bobby Orr wouldn’t have been quite as good if it wasn’t for the short ice at the Garden…[/quote]

    You know, he scored all of his 915 points in Boston only?

    Forget the arenas in Oshawa where he destroyed OHA records. He could only score in Boston where they had a little rink.

    He scored 135 points in the 1974-75 season. Unless more than 70% of those points came in Boston, I’d say he had no trouble scoring in the other 11 rinks as well.[/quote]

    Edited.

  • LI Phil | January 22, 2009 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote]Similar to the 98′Rams. “The greatest team on turf”.[/quote]

    did they use a smaller field too?

  • =bg= | January 22, 2009 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”311188″][quote comment=”311183″]the Cincinnati Reds unveiled a new female mascot Rosie Red on Thursday. The new mascot is in a 1940s style uni.

    Photos are online in this Cincinnati Enquirer gallery

    Background info here from the Reds[/quote]

    Hard to believe someone in a Reds marketing meeting said, “Know what, we should have mascot that reminds people of Rosie O’Donnell.”

    Even harder to believe someone else said,
    “What a great idea!”

    —Ricko
    (shakes head, walks away muttering)[/quote]

    Rosie O Donnell.
    I just snorted milk out my nose, thanks for that!

  • =bg= | January 22, 2009 at 5:41 pm |

    One more.

    You think BO is gonna get comped a case of those new inaguration Jordans?

    Maybe with ’44’ on the tongue?

  • MPowers1634 | January 22, 2009 at 5:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”311181″]I have a question for the DIYers.
    I am looking to do something similar to what Rob did (very nice, btw). I am looking to create Jayson Werth ‘jersey t-shirts’ covering all his career thus far. I might have just bought them, but you can’t customize a previous player on a teams t-shirt over at shop.mlb.com. Not to mention the Majestic logo on the chest. I have bought the logo t-shirts thru another source.
    http://www.baseballs...
    I now have to get the NOB and number on there myself. How would you suggest I best go about this? Thanks for the help![/quote]

    Last Friday, someone posted a link to ALL of the major sports leagues and the team’s fonts.

    Download his team.

    1. Open MS Word
    2. File…Page Setup…Landscape
    3. Open WordArt
    4. Choose the banner Style that you want
    5. Format the layout…Tight…so that you can move it around
    6. Using the vertical and orizontal rulers on the top and side of the screen, size your nameplate
    7. You can use AutoShapes to draw lines making sure that your ssizes are correct

    ***You can also Right-Click…Format WordArt and click on the Sizes tab…size accordingly

    8. Within the Format WordArt Dialogue Box, you can also create a fill color for the nameplate.
    9. you can also make it double-layered by choosing a color for the line…make it larger or smaller by determiming the line weight.
    10. make sure that your screen is at 100% to see a true scale.
    11. print onto oaktag.
    12. using a matte knife and a straightedge make your template.

    13. Then follow the directions from the entry regarding iron-on paper(use Under-Wonder)any craft store should have it.

    14. When done…to be TOTALLY done…you should stitch the letters in a zig-zag stitch to prevent fraying…have someone else do it if you’re a a rookie!

    15. hope this helps!

  • Mark L.G. | January 22, 2009 at 5:48 pm |

    In regards to the XFL logo, a local high school out here in Texas also uses the XFL team logo. Hebron Hawks http://www.hawksfoot...

  • Tall Paul | January 22, 2009 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”311106″]There’s a photo of the new NHL net next to the article. Look to the right of the title.[/quote]

    Question: As only the most occasionally casual of hockey fans (i.e. I watch the 3rd period of a game if the ticker on SportsCenter tells me someone is about to win the Stanley Cup over on the other channel) I am not familiar with some of the vernacular used in the game…though I have learned a bit by paying attention to discussions here. Is it common to refer to the entire goal assembly as the net? The TSN article about the change shows pictures of the goalposts and makes a few references to the goalposts as to what’s being changed. It also makes references as to the net being changed, though, too. The pic would not come up for me at first and, as a soccer player, I was just sure they were making a change to the netting, itself, until I really reread the article and found a way to bring up the pic. In soccer it is common to talk about putting the ball in the back of the net…but the structure, itself, is called the goalpost(s) and, altogether (piping and netting), it is called the goal. Never is the metal structure referred to as the net or netting. Thanks for you help and understanding.

  • Tall Paul | January 22, 2009 at 6:11 pm |

    Is soccer the only (somewhat-sort-of) major sport where the color of the officials’ jerseys changes from game to game to ensure contrast with regard to what the two competing teams are wearing? For instance: in football, even if one team is wearing black and the other team is wearing white, you will always (exceptions for oddball leagues and other countries duly noted) find the refs wearing black and white stripes. NBA officials always wear grey. Umps always wear blue. Hockey officials always wear black and white stripes. But soccer referees and linesmen wear blue, black, fuschia, yellow, or red, most commonly, but other colors have been worn, too.

  • Jeff P | January 22, 2009 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”311190″][quote comment=”311186″]
    Well, they are international sized now, since the IIHF has decided to go to the 200x 85 for all future tournaments. And it’s more then 4 rows of seating. It’s rebuilding the entire structure of most arenas, with sightlines, seating angles, so on and so forth. You would have to rebuilt a lot of arenas, and completely scrap others. That’s not ever going to happen. In fact, there is only one arena that would not be significantly affected, GM place, because they built it anticipating Olympics.
    [/quote]

    They’re nowhere close to being international-sized. The standard NHL arena, including GM Place in Vancouver, is 200×85. This has been well-documented in that the international game will have to adapt to a smaller rink.

    The standard Olympic rink size is 200×98.

    Do you really think that sight lines would be affected by widening the rink by 13 feet, or 6.5 feet on either side? If you do, you either play in a terribly-designed new arena, or an obsolete old arena. The sight lines argument is BS. No more and no less.

    And since most new arenas are built with retractable lower bowl seating for concerts and such, that argument doesn’t work either.[/quote]

    GM place is the only one built to have room to expand. And In a lot of arenas, yeah, the extra width would screw with the sight lines. They’re built so that the top rows will be able to just see the edge of the ice. And movable sections are fine, until you realize that it’s only to move things around. You widen it, the front row seats will be a good bit above the ice, which makes the sight lines awful for anyone else in the lower bowl around the edges. To change that you would have to rebuild the lower bowl, which is pretty structurally important I would imagine, rebuild all of the multi million dollar dressing rooms when you do that because you would have to tear out the lower bowl and anything under that to rebuild the lower bowl…

    The seating is in it’s most compact position during hockey games. When they do concerts and basketball games, they put a boards over the ice and place temporary bleachers that extend further on in. The temporary bleachers can get longer, but the buildings are built so they don’t get any shorter since the rink size is the largest size of any event they have, unless the building was built with international ice in mind.

    The only way to preserve sight lines while expanding the rink would be to elevate the rink floor- which would require rebuilding the dressing rooms and paths to the ice, not to mention the refrigeration system, which isn’t cheap, but that would have to be done anyway, since those are again built to 200×85.

    And rebuilding practice rinks would come into it too, that’s not gonna be pretty.

    Overall, you would be talking about 10-20 million for most teams to do that, and if they don’t, they loose business because they no longer have a state of the art premium arena, it’s now a quirky arena with bad sightlines.

    I have never seen an argument strong enough to convince me that it’s worth the investment. Perhaps a rule going forward that you can choose to use international size if you want in your home arena like the NCAA does, but forcing teams to switch will never happen, and for good reason.

  • NickTav | January 22, 2009 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”311194″][quote comment=”311193″][quote comment=”311189″]
    There’s a lot to be said for that… Bobby Orr wouldn’t have been quite as good if it wasn’t for the short ice at the Garden…[/quote]

    You know, he scored all of his 915 points in Boston only?

    Forget the arenas in Oshawa where he destroyed OHA records. He could only score in Boston where they had a little rink.

    He scored 135 points in the 1974-75 season. Unless more than 70% of those points came in Boston, I’d say he had no trouble scoring in the other 11 rinks as well.[/quote]

    Edited.[/quote]
    On the other end of that… could you imagine if he’d had even more room to wheel and deal? If he’d played on an international ice surface, he might’ve been even better, saved his knees and played a little longer.

    I’d also like to see unique rink sizes come back. I like that the new Devils rink plays differently in the corners than other arenas. I like the idea of home-ice advantage and the character that the old Gardens (Boston and New York) and Chicago Stadium had.

    One thing’s for sure — don’t mess with the nets. Play with goalie equipment, fine, but don’t screw with the game itself.

  • Giancarlo | January 22, 2009 at 6:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”311147″]Random question(s) here, but I figured this would be the place to ask: does anyone know when the fan replica jersey first started to replace business/casual wear as the predominant “dress code” for professional sporting events? Which sport started this trend? Thanks in advance, I’m a long-time reader of the site and a member of the silent majority of the hockey wing :) In fact, it was at Monday’s Hawks-Wild game (where I was wearing my Wild jersey and my boyfriend was wearing his Patrick Kane Winter Classic replica) that the thought came to me and I’ve been trying to google an answer since with no luck.[/quote]
    Two good questions. I’ll take a wild guess and say (a) it happened around the mid-’80s, and (b) it may have started with hockey (I’m visualizing Ferris Bueller’s pal right now). It was possible to get knock-off NFL replicas even back in the early ’70s if you knew where to look, but I think the turning point was when the league started making official ones. Someone needs to look at some old youtube clips to figure out the real answer to (a).

  • Johnny O | January 22, 2009 at 7:05 pm |

    I heard from a few friends in Milwaukee that when OF Corey Hart got off his plane today, he was wearing a Yankee hat!!!! Can anyone in the Milwaukee area confirm this with photo evidence?

  • LI Phil | January 22, 2009 at 7:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”311205″]I heard from a few friends in Milwaukee that when OF Corey Hart got off his plane today, he was wearing a Yankee hat!!!! Can anyone in the Milwaukee area confirm this with photo evidence?[/quote]

    this one?

    :o)

  • NickTav | January 22, 2009 at 7:38 pm |

    Also, in regards to the old-school Tigers DIY t-shirt, that looks excellent. I’d actually been toying with the idea of making a long-sleeve Jim Rice shirt, with “BOSTON” arched in the front in the stylized font, with 14 on the back. Sort of a combination of a football/baseball jersey, something unique. But that Detroit T just confirms that it would probably look good.

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 7:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”311202″]
    GM place is the only one built to have room to expand. And In a lot of arenas, yeah, the extra width would screw with the sight lines. They’re built so that the top rows will be able to just see the edge of the ice. And movable sections are fine, until you realize that it’s only to move things around. You widen it, the front row seats will be a good bit above the ice, which makes the sight lines awful for anyone else in the lower bowl around the edges. To change that you would have to rebuild the lower bowl, which is pretty structurally important I would imagine, rebuild all of the multi million dollar dressing rooms when you do that because you would have to tear out the lower bowl and anything under that to rebuild the lower bowl…

    The seating is in it’s most compact position during hockey games. When they do concerts and basketball games, they put a boards over the ice and place temporary bleachers that extend further on in. The temporary bleachers can get longer, but the buildings are built so they don’t get any shorter since the rink size is the largest size of any event they have, unless the building was built with international ice in mind.

    The only way to preserve sight lines while expanding the rink would be to elevate the rink floor- which would require rebuilding the dressing rooms and paths to the ice, not to mention the refrigeration system, which isn’t cheap, but that would have to be done anyway, since those are again built to 200×85.

    And rebuilding practice rinks would come into it too, that’s not gonna be pretty.

    Overall, you would be talking about 10-20 million for most teams to do that, and if they don’t, they loose business because they no longer have a state of the art premium arena, it’s now a quirky arena with bad sightlines.

    I have never seen an argument strong enough to convince me that it’s worth the investment. Perhaps a rule going forward that you can choose to use international size if you want in your home arena like the NCAA does, but forcing teams to switch will never happen, and for good reason.[/quote]

    Ok, I’ll narrow this “argument” down in two questions.

    (1) Name me any NHL arena where you can’t see the four closest rows to the rink from the top row in the arena. If your answer is zero, you’re absolutely right.

    (2) Name me the number of “practice rinks” where any NHL team is concerned with losing money.

    I have never seen an argument strong enough to convince me that this isn’t an owner’s argument in losing “premium seating”. Since the majority of the premium seating is empty in television anyway, why not promote a better product in place if “premium seating”?

    Lastly, for the next person who writes the word “loose” when they mean “lose”, I’ll personally deem that writer as an professional hack.

    I’m not sure when this lack of knowledge about the English language started, but it better stop right here and right now.

    Nothing irritates me more.

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 7:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”311208″]
    I have never seen an argument strong enough to convince me that this isn’t an owner’s argument in losing “premium seating”. Since the majority of the premium seating is empty on television anyway, why not promote a better product on place of “premium seating”?[/quote]

    You know, being tired and typing is bad for the literary soul.

  • LI Phil | January 22, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”311209″][quote comment=”311208″]
    I have never seen an argument strong enough to convince me that this isn’t an owner’s argument in losing “premium seating”. Since the majority of the premium seating is empty on television anyway, why not promote a better product on place of “premium seating”?[/quote]

    You know, being tired and typing is bad for the literary soul.[/quote]

    teebz, buddy

    i think your starting to loose it

  • Tony In Erie | January 22, 2009 at 7:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”311152″]Pittsburgh Pirates to unveil new alternate jersey tomorrow: http://pittsburgh.pi...

    What they are not telling you is that’s not all they will unveil….[/quote]

    I’m just gonna come out and say it.

    I TAKE FULL CREDIT FOR IT!!! Maybe they’re using my list as an official checklist :)

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 7:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”311210″][quote comment=”311209″][quote comment=”311208″]
    I have never seen an argument strong enough to convince me that this isn’t an owner’s argument in losing “premium seating”. Since the majority of the premium seating is empty on television anyway, why not promote a better product on place of “premium seating”?[/quote]

    You know, being tired and typing is bad for the literary soul.[/quote]

    teebz, buddy

    i think your starting to loose it[/quote]

    Watch it. I can’t call you a hack with the recent spell of solid weekend entries in this very site, but using a word that isn’t even a homonym of the word “lose” could put you in DOUCHEY-gross status. ;o)

    Just kidding, Philly! LOL

  • David Murphy | January 22, 2009 at 8:29 pm |

    Regarding the Broncos wearing the old-school vertical socks in the Super Bowl pregame: I remember reading, or announcer saying, that the Broncos would do this, to honor the dark days of the franchise. The report did not detail that the socks would be worn in the PREGAME, so I was on the lookout the entire game. Back in those pre-UniWatch days, I had never seen these socks before.

  • mmwatkin | January 22, 2009 at 8:36 pm |

    How many days a week does Teebz get riled up over hockey?

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”311214″]How many days a week does Teebz get riled up over hockey?[/quote]

    Every day and twice on Sundays.

  • The Hemogoblin | January 22, 2009 at 8:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”311193″][quote comment=”311189″]
    There’s a lot to be said for that… Bobby Orr wouldn’t have been quite as good if it wasn’t for the short ice at the Garden…[/quote]

    You know, he scored all of his 915 in Boston only?

    Forget the arenas in Oshawa where he destroyed OHA records. He could only score in Boston where they had a little rink.

    He scored 135 points in the 1974-75 season. Unless more than 70% of those points came in Boston, I’d say he had no trouble scoring in the other 11 rinks as well.[/quote]

    I said quite.

    He could have played on a mile-long rink and still been the best defenseman in the history of the NHL.

  • Teebz | January 22, 2009 at 8:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”311216″][quote comment=”311193″][quote comment=”311189″]
    There’s a lot to be said for that… Bobby Orr wouldn’t have been quite as good if it wasn’t for the short ice at the Garden…[/quote]

    You know, he scored all of his 915 in Boston only?

    Forget the arenas in Oshawa where he destroyed OHA records. He could only score in Boston where they had a little rink.

    He scored 135 points in the 1974-75 season. Unless more than 70% of those points came in Boston, I’d say he had no trouble scoring in the other 11 rinks as well.[/quote]

    I said quite.

    He could have played on a mile-long rink and still been the best defenseman in the history of the NHL.[/quote]

    Oh, I’m aware, Goblin.

    Just putting everything in perspective as you just did.

    Even on no knees, he was better than most of the defencemen in the NHL.

  • The Hemogoblin | January 22, 2009 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”311217″][quote comment=”311216″][quote comment=”311193″][quote comment=”311189″]
    There’s a lot to be said for that… Bobby Orr wouldn’t have been quite as good if it wasn’t for the short ice at the Garden…[/quote]

    You know, he scored all of his 915 in Boston only?

    Forget the arenas in Oshawa where he destroyed OHA records. He could only score in Boston where they had a little rink.

    He scored 135 points in the 1974-75 season. Unless more than 70% of those points came in Boston, I’d say he had no trouble scoring in the other 11 rinks as well.[/quote]

    I said quite.

    He could have played on a mile-long rink and still been the best defenseman in the history of the NHL.[/quote]

    Oh, I’m aware, Goblin.

    Just putting everything in perspective as you just did.

    Even on no knees, he was better than most of the defencemen in the NHL.[/quote]

    Bobby Orr=Next Claude Lemieux

    (one can hope, right?)

  • Ricko | January 22, 2009 at 9:31 pm |

    Anybody watching BONES right now? Plot centers on Boothe (David Boreanaz) playing hockey. His team wears unis like the Penguins’ powder blue. Figures, I guess. Boreanaz is a Pittsburgh native and, for one thing, a huge Steelers fan. Considering he almost certainly had a say in the hockey uni he’d be wearing I’m guessing we can assume he also like the Pens’ thirds/throwbacks.

    —Ricko

  • Terri | January 22, 2009 at 9:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”311219″]Anybody watching BONES right now? Plot centers on Boothe (David Boreanaz) playing hockey. His team wears unis like the Penguins’ powder blue. Figures, I guess. Boreanaz is a Pittsburgh native and, for one thing, a huge Steelers fan. Considering he almost certainly had a say in the hockey uni he’d be wearing I’m guessing we can assume he also like the Pens’ thirds/throwbacks.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    But did you see his cast? It looked like there was a Flyers logo on it.

  • Terri | January 22, 2009 at 9:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”311220″][quote comment=”311219″]Anybody watching BONES right now? Plot centers on Boothe (David Boreanaz) playing hockey. His team wears unis like the Penguins’ powder blue. Figures, I guess. Boreanaz is a Pittsburgh native and, for one thing, a huge Steelers fan. Considering he almost certainly had a say in the hockey uni he’d be wearing I’m guessing we can assume he also like the Pens’ thirds/throwbacks.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    But did you see his cast? It looked like there was a Flyers logo on it.[/quote]

    Oh, and the pic on the wall in his office is the Flyers vs. i don’t know who. I’ve actually noticed this before and figured Boreanz was a Philly fan.

  • BurghFan | January 22, 2009 at 9:42 pm |

    Boreanaz is a Pittsburgh native and, for one thing, a huge Steelers fan.

    From this story:

    “If the Steelers and Eagles both win Sunday, ‘Bones’ star David Boreanaz will see his loyalties divided. He’s from Philadelphia but as a kid served as a Steelers ball boy through a family friendship with the Rooneys.”

  • Johnny F. | January 22, 2009 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”311191″][quote comment=”311187″][quote comment=”311177″][quote comment=”311165″][quote comment=”311164″]My take on the new shape nets:
    Really wish the NHL would leave the nets alone. There are plenty of ways to increase scoring without touching the nets. (cough)goalie equipment(cough) Changing the nets would drastically change the game to where it almost wouldn’t even be comparable to past eras, even less comparable then they already are…. Please don’t touch the nets…. Pretty please.[/quote]

    I’ll go one further: make the rinks international-sized. Stop whining and complaining about losing four rows of mostly-unfilled seats because the average fan can’t afford them. Make the change, open up some space, and scoring will come back.

    [quote comment=”311164″]NHL Ref unis:
    Trying to fix something that’s not broken.[/quote]

    This is the third attempt at “fixing” the refs’ uniforms. STOP EFFING WITH AN ICONIC LOOK!

    [quote comment=”311164″]Gary Bettman:
    What a total idiot. It was 2 people of LA’s scouting staff that were a a part of World Trade Center. One of the guys was Garnet Bailey, who’s nickname was ‘Ace’. Get it? Ace Bailey? Different Guy Bettman… good job.[/quote]

    Careful, Jim. I got chastised for for ripping on Buccigross yesterday. You don’t want your hands slapped, do you? LOL

    [quote comment=”311164″]The REAL Ace Bailey:

    Everyone should read up on him, Teebz is right. A story every hockey fan should know.[/quote]

    I just found out that the Leafs raised over $23,000 for Bailey – a huge sum of money in 1934![/quote]

    About international rinks, I wouldn’t want to see that either, but I’d take that over bigger nets seeing it’s become more of an international game than it used to be.

    Yea, saw the Bucci ripping you did, I personally like his passion for the game, one of the few at ESPN that gives hockey respect. If I get slapped around for calling Bettman an idiot so be it…. he’s still an idiot.

    Watched that TOR and BOS game last night, good game, come from behind win for BOS. Both teams wearing their thirds, and nice ACE patch to match!

    Long live hockey!![/quote]
    screw bigger nets or international ice. give teams a little freedom like in the past, I want chicago to go back to 185×80 ice. Let teams have a min/max on sizes. Build your team to your rink.[/quote]

    Similar to the 98’Rams. “The greatest team on turf”.[/quote]

    “Greatest SHOW on turf”. :)

  • MPowers1634 | January 22, 2009 at 9:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”311204″][quote comment=”311147″]Random question(s) here, but I figured this would be the place to ask: does anyone know when the fan replica jersey first started to replace business/casual wear as the predominant “dress code” for professional sporting events? Which sport started this trend? Thanks in advance, I’m a long-time reader of the site and a member of the silent majority of the hockey wing :) In fact, it was at Monday’s Hawks-Wild game (where I was wearing my Wild jersey and my boyfriend was wearing his Patrick Kane Winter Classic replica) that the thought came to me and I’ve been trying to google an answer since with no luck.[/quote]
    Two good questions. I’ll take a wild guess and say (a) it happened around the mid-’80s, and (b) it may have started with hockey (I’m visualizing Ferris Bueller’s pal right now). It was possible to get knock-off NFL replicas even back in the early ’70s if you knew where to look, but I think the turning point was when the league started making official ones. Someone needs to look at some old youtube clips to figure out the real answer to (a).[/quote]

    Cameron, played by Alan Ruck, a former neighbor of mine.

  • Terri | January 22, 2009 at 9:47 pm |

    Ok, now he’s in a Flyers jersey. Guess that makes it official. Btw, how seeing Robitaille while knocked out? Wow, corny.

  • Ricko | January 22, 2009 at 9:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”311222″]Boreanaz is a Pittsburgh native and, for one thing, a huge Steelers fan.

    From this story:

    “If the Steelers and Eagles both win Sunday, ‘Bones’ star David Boreanaz will see his loyalties divided. He’s from Philadelphia but as a kid served as a Steelers ball boy through a family friendship with the Rooneys.”[/quote]

    My bad. Thought he was from Pittsburgh. And now, in his “dream” he’s a Flyer. Guess he’s being Pennsylvania politically correct with a nod to the Pens. LOL

  • Beardface | January 22, 2009 at 10:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”311226″][quote comment=”311222″]Boreanaz is a Pittsburgh native and, for one thing, a huge Steelers fan.

    From this story:

    “If the Steelers and Eagles both win Sunday, ‘Bones’ star David Boreanaz will see his loyalties divided. He’s from Philadelphia but as a kid served as a Steelers ball boy through a family friendship with the Rooneys.”[/quote]

    My bad. Thought he was from Pittsburgh. And now, in his “dream” he’s a Flyer. Guess he’s being Pennsylvania politically correct with a nod to the Pens. LOL[/quote]
    Boreanaz is a huge Philadelphia fan. You can find him at Flyers and Phillies games throughout the seasons and playoffs. The cast he wore in tonight’s episode had both Flyers and Phillies logos on it. Also loved the “Flyers hockey, got a problem with it?” line as he was muscling his opponent all over the ice tonight… haha

    Not that this is a unique thing for Philly teams to be in tv shows. In The Office, Jim Halpert has made it known he’s a Phillies fan, and Dwight had a Mike Lieberthal Phillies bobblehead on his desk for a couple years, and on House MD, they made it known this past week that Dr. Gregory House is a Flyers fan.

  • MPowers1634 | January 22, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    Johnny F.

    Thanks for the correction…something didn’t feel right.

    Does ANYBODY know what number font this is?

    http://www.onlinespo...

  • LI Phil | January 22, 2009 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”311228″]Johnny F.

    Thanks for the correction…something didn’t feel right.

    Does ANYBODY know what number font this is?

    http://www.onlinespo...

    pose your question here

  • JTH | January 22, 2009 at 10:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”311210″][quote comment=”311209″][quote comment=”311208″]
    I have never seen an argument strong enough to convince me that this isn’t an owner’s argument in losing “premium seating”. Since the majority of the premium seating is empty on television anyway, why not promote a better product on place of “premium seating”?[/quote]

    You know, being tired and typing is bad for the literary soul.[/quote]

    teebz, buddy

    i think your starting to loose it[/quote]
    We may soon deem him an professional hack.

  • werthj | January 22, 2009 at 11:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”311198″][quote comment=”311181″]I have a question for the DIYers.
    I am looking to do something similar to what Rob did (very nice, btw). I am looking to create Jayson Werth ‘jersey t-shirts’ covering all his career thus far. I might have just bought them, but you can’t customize a previous player on a teams t-shirt over at shop.mlb.com. Not to mention the Majestic logo on the chest. I have bought the logo t-shirts thru another source.
    http://www.baseballs...
    I now have to get the NOB and number on there myself. How would you suggest I best go about this? Thanks for the help![/quote]

    Last Friday, someone posted a link to ALL of the major sports leagues and the team’s fonts.

    Download his team.

    1. Open MS Word
    2. File…Page Setup…Landscape
    3. Open WordArt
    4. Choose the banner Style that you want
    5. Format the layout…Tight…so that you can move it around
    6. Using the vertical and orizontal rulers on the top and side of the screen, size your nameplate
    7. You can use AutoShapes to draw lines making sure that your ssizes are correct

    ***You can also Right-Click…Format WordArt and click on the Sizes tab…size accordingly

    8. Within the Format WordArt Dialogue Box, you can also create a fill color for the nameplate.
    9. you can also make it double-layered by choosing a color for the line…make it larger or smaller by determiming the line weight.
    10. make sure that your screen is at 100% to see a true scale.
    11. print onto oaktag.
    12. using a matte knife and a straightedge make your template.

    13. Then follow the directions from the entry regarding iron-on paper(use Under-Wonder)any craft store should have it.

    14. When done…to be TOTALLY done…you should stitch the letters in a zig-zag stitch to prevent fraying…have someone else do it if you’re a a rookie!

    15. hope this helps![/quote]

    It was I who posted the fonts link, I was looking for the advice on how to execute the plan. Thanks for the advice!

  • Jeff P | January 22, 2009 at 11:56 pm |

    Joe Lewis has seats where you can’t even see parts of the ice now. So does Mellon. MSG will be very close to the limit after they remodel this summer, they’re extending out the balconies (among other things).

    But really, there is no way to tell how many arenas it would affect without visiting all of them. But the lower bowls are the bigger concern really. In most arenas they hold the majority of the people. And those people pony up more money then anybody else in the arena.

    Here’s why it’s a huge issue in the lower bowl

    The people paying the top money in the arena won’t be able to see players at the boards. That’s a problem. They’re not going to pay that top money, and the revenues of those teams will drop, and those of the league will drop. Unless you drop a couple million to rebuild the lower bowl, which teams won’t be happy about.

    And all for what? Something that a lot of hockey fans swear they’ll stop watching the NHL if it ever happens? Something that would change the game, perhaps for the better, perhaps not? Something that would cause Don Cherry’s head to explode? (Okay, I might be in favor of that one).

    It will not happen and never will.

  • Teebz | January 23, 2009 at 12:12 am |

    [quote comment=”311232″]Joe Lewis has seats where you can’t even see parts of the ice now. So does Mellon. MSG will be very close to the limit after they remodel this summer, they’re extending out the balconies (among other things).

    But really, there is no way to tell how many arenas it would affect without visiting all of them. But the lower bowls are the bigger concern really. In most arenas they hold the majority of the people. And those people pony up more money then anybody else in the arena.

    Here’s why it’s a huge issue in the lower bowl

    The people paying the top money in the arena won’t be able to see players at the boards. That’s a problem. They’re not going to pay that top money, and the revenues of those teams will drop, and those of the league will drop. Unless you drop a couple million to rebuild the lower bowl, which teams won’t be happy about.

    And all for what? Something that a lot of hockey fans swear they’ll stop watching the NHL if it ever happens? Something that would change the game, perhaps for the better, perhaps not? Something that would cause Don Cherry’s head to explode? (Okay, I might be in favor of that one).

    It will not happen and never will.[/quote]

    Considering that Joe Louis Arena is outdated, and the Mellon Arena is being demolished, those two arenas are of no debate. MSG is another, but we’re not talking about an overnight solution here, are we?

    Why would the angle change for people in the front row? The ice can be built up. They do that now in several arenas.

    This holds no water.

  • husul | January 23, 2009 at 12:28 am |

    Maybe I’m missing something here but, You guys realize it was Ace Bailey’s son that died On Sept. 11/01,not just a random hockey guy named Bailey.

    The Leafs wore Full-blown ACE jerseys for the pregame as well, not just the patch

  • husul | January 23, 2009 at 12:30 am |

    [quote comment=”311234″]Maybe I’m missing something here but, You guys realize it was Ace Bailey’s son that died On Sept. 11/01,not just a random hockey guy named Bailey.

    The Leafs wore Full-blown ACE jerseys for the pregame as well, not just the patch [/quote]

    Pre game Leafers:

    http://mapleleafs.nh...

  • husul | January 23, 2009 at 12:33 am |

    [quote comment=”311232″]Joe Lewis has seats where you can’t even see parts of the ice now. So does Mellon. MSG will be very close to the limit after they remodel this summer, they’re extending out the balconies (among other things).

    But really, there is no way to tell how many arenas it would affect without visiting all of them. But the lower bowls are the bigger concern really. In most arenas they hold the majority of the people. And those people pony up more money then anybody else in the arena.

    Here’s why it’s a huge issue in the lower bowl

    The people paying the top money in the arena won’t be able to see players at the boards. That’s a problem. They’re not going to pay that top money, and the revenues of those teams will drop, and those of the league will drop. Unless you drop a couple million to rebuild the lower bowl, which teams won’t be happy about.

    And all for what? Something that a lot of hockey fans swear they’ll stop watching the NHL if it ever happens? Something that would change the game, perhaps for the better, perhaps not? Something that would cause Don Cherry’s head to explode? (Okay, I might be in favor of that one).

    It will not happen and never will.[/quote]

    This is why football games at Baseball stadiums suck (See Bills at Skydome)

  • The Hemogoblin | January 23, 2009 at 12:40 am |

    Fixed the bold… anyways, I don’t really find much wrong with novelty games as long as they stay that way.

  • u2-horn | January 23, 2009 at 12:53 am |

    [quote comment=”311176″]Does anybody have the leaked Texas Rangers jersey link anywhere? I’m dying to get a sneak peek.[/quote]

    Little late now, but here it is

    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    unveiling tomorrow at 11:30

  • Teebz | January 23, 2009 at 1:04 am |

    [quote comment=”311234″]Maybe I’m missing something here but, You guys realize it was Ace Bailey’s son that died On Sept. 11/01,not just a random hockey guy named Bailey.

    The Leafs wore Full-blown ACE jerseys for the pregame as well, not just the patch[/quote]

    Maybe you are missing something.

    They are not related. Not even close.

  • BurghFan | January 23, 2009 at 1:38 am |

    My bad. Thought he was from Pittsburgh.

    That’s what happens when you don’t read the Pittsburgh papers. Seriously, I’m just glad that I happened to stumble across that recently.

  • husul | January 23, 2009 at 3:02 am |

    [quote comment=”311239″][quote comment=”311234″]Maybe I’m missing something here but, You guys realize it was Ace Bailey’s son that died On Sept. 11/01,not just a random hockey guy named Bailey.

    The Leafs wore Full-blown ACE jerseys for the pregame as well, not just the patch[/quote]

    Maybe you are missing something.

    They are not related. Not even close.[/quote]

    Teebz, this is incredible! This is the reason I come here everyday, to learn something new.
    I would have put money on this in any situation and just to make sure I did a quick search…saw this; Garnet Ace Bailey – Son Of A Hockey Player as the first result, it confirmed my thought and made that post.

    “Born Garnet Bailey in Lloydminster, Saskatchewan, Bailey grew up playing hockey. His father, Irvine Bailey, was a star forward for Toronto in the 1920s and 1930s. Irvine Bailey’s career ended when he was thirty, when a cross-check from behind, administered by Boston player Eddie Shore, almost killed him in December of 1933.”

    But scrolling down to the comments I just noticed this:

    “Hi,I am Garnet “Ace” Baileys son Todd, and thought you would be interested in knowing that he is in no way related to Irving Bailey. The other stories are right on, but the father one is not. Thanks, Todd Bailey”

    Thanks Teebz, it seems that an initial media reports of Sept. 11/01 may have turned this into somewhat of a Canadian urban legend. You may have just corrected a nation.

    Just looking at some other things as well:
    -Garnet was born is Sask. in 1948, Irv would have been 45 and had no ties to Saskatchewan. Born in Ontario, lived in Ontario , employed in Ontario.

  • K in PA | January 23, 2009 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”311211″][quote comment=”311152″]Pittsburgh Pirates to unveil new alternate jersey tomorrow: http://pittsburgh.pi...

    What they are not telling you is that’s not all they will unveil….[/quote]

    I’m just gonna come out and say it.

    I TAKE FULL CREDIT FOR IT!!! Maybe they’re using my list as an official checklist :)[/quote]
    Your flex capacitor must be working because I first heard about the Pirates new jerseys about a year before your post! ;c)

  • joe | January 23, 2009 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”311202″][quote comment=”311190″][quote comment=”311186″]
    Well, they are international sized now, since the IIHF has decided to go to the 200x 85 for all future tournaments. And it’s more then 4 rows of seating. It’s rebuilding the entire structure of most arenas, with sightlines, seating angles, so on and so forth. You would have to rebuilt a lot of arenas, and completely scrap others. That’s not ever going to happen. In fact, there is only one arena that would not be significantly affected, GM place, because they built it anticipating Olympics.
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    They’re nowhere close to being international-sized. The standard NHL arena, including GM Place in Vancouver, is 200×85. This has been well-documented in that the international game will have to adapt to a smaller rink.

    The standard Olympic rink size is 200×98.

    Do you really think that sight lines would be affected by widening the rink by 13 feet, or 6.5 feet on either side? If you do, you either play in a terribly-designed new arena, or an obsolete old arena. The sight lines argument is BS. No more and no less.

    And since most new arenas are built with retractable lower bowl seating for concerts and such, that argument doesn’t work either.[/quote]

    GM place is the only one built to have room to expand. And In a lot of arenas, yeah, the extra width would screw with the sight lines. They’re built so that the top rows will be able to just see the edge of the ice. And movable sections are fine, until you realize that it’s only to move things around. You widen it, the front row seats will be a good bit above the ice, which makes the sight lines awful for anyone else in the lower bowl around the edges. To change that you would have to rebuild the lower bowl, which is pretty structurally important I would imagine, rebuild all of the multi million dollar dressing rooms when you do that because you would have to tear out the lower bowl and anything under that to rebuild the lower bowl…

    The seating is in it’s most compact position during hockey games. When they do concerts and basketball games, they put a boards over the ice and place temporary bleachers that extend further on in. The temporary bleachers can get longer, but the buildings are built so they don’t get any shorter since the rink size is the largest size of any event they have, unless the building was built with international ice in mind.

    The only way to preserve sight lines while expanding the rink would be to elevate the rink floor- which would require rebuilding the dressing rooms and paths to the ice, not to mention the refrigeration system, which isn’t cheap, but that would have to be done anyway, since those are again built to 200×85.

    And rebuilding practice rinks would come into it too, that’s not gonna be pretty.

    Overall, you would be talking about 10-20 million for most teams to do that, and if they don’t, they loose business because they no longer have a state of the art premium arena, it’s now a quirky arena with bad sightlines.

    I have never seen an argument strong enough to convince me that it’s worth the investment. Perhaps a rule going forward that you can choose to use international size if you want in your home arena like the NCAA does, but forcing teams to switch will never happen, and for good reason.[/quote]
    you do realize this would actually improve the sightlines form high up on the sides. The ice would be 7.5 feet closer would would make a steeper angle over the near boards making them actually see more.

  • Teebz | January 23, 2009 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”311241″][quote comment=”311239″][quote comment=”311234″]Maybe I’m missing something here but, You guys realize it was Ace Bailey’s son that died On Sept. 11/01,not just a random hockey guy named Bailey.

    The Leafs wore Full-blown ACE jerseys for the pregame as well, not just the patch[/quote]

    Maybe you are missing something.

    They are not related. Not even close.[/quote]

    Teebz, this is incredible! This is the reason I come here everyday, to learn something new.
    I would have put money on this in any situation and just to make sure I did a quick search…saw this; Garnet Ace Bailey – Son Of A Hockey Player as the first result, it confirmed my thought and made that post.

    “Born Garnet Bailey in Lloydminster, Saskatchewan, Bailey grew up playing hockey. His father, Irvine Bailey, was a star forward for Toronto in the 1920s and 1930s. Irvine Bailey’s career ended when he was thirty, when a cross-check from behind, administered by Boston player Eddie Shore, almost killed him in December of 1933.”

    But scrolling down to the comments I just noticed this:

    “Hi,I am Garnet “Ace” Baileys son Todd, and thought you would be interested in knowing that he is in no way related to Irving Bailey. The other stories are right on, but the father one is not. Thanks, Todd Bailey”

    Thanks Teebz, it seems that an initial media reports of Sept. 11/01 may have turned this into somewhat of a Canadian urban legend. You may have just corrected a nation.

    Just looking at some other things as well:
    -Garnet was born is Sask. in 1948, Irv would have been 45 and had no ties to Saskatchewan. Born in Ontario, lived in Ontario , employed in Ontario.[/quote]

    Wow… whoever made that page up is seriously screwing with people.

    Thanks for the update, Husul!