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New ESPN column today (link here). But since I took yesterday off, I’ll run a regular entry here as well.

So: As excited as I am about the Life photo archives being put online, it’s important to remember that material relating to lots of important chapters in uniform history is still housed in smaller, local archives. One such chapter can be found in the Tacoma Public Library’s image files: the story of the Cheney Studs.

The Studs weren’t a team — they were a series of Tacoma-area youth and amateur teams in the 1950s and ’60s, all sponsored by local philanthropist Ben Cheney. The Studs empire included baseball (additional views here, here, and here), football (see also here, here, and here), basketball (here’s a very young team), and soccer (see also here and here). Some of these squads actually traveled in their own plane or train.

Even better: the Cheney Studs Courteers, a rotating group of Globetrotters-esque kids who performed during halftimes while wearing star-spangled sleeved jerseys and vertically striped socks (except when they wore hoop-striped socks. According to the photo captions, the Courteers displayed “high potency basketball skills,” to the beat of “lively rock n’ roll.” If anyone has video of this, let’s just say I’m more than a little bit interested.

As you can see, the most of these teams used a logo featuring a rather well-endowed horse. But here’s the best part: Ben Cheney was in the lumber business — he’s credited with standardizing the size of 2-by-4 wall studs. The team logo derived from his company logo, which was stamped onto each wall stud his firm produced (more info on that is in the caption to this photo). So “stud” has a dual meaning here — great story.

As for Cheney, he died in 1971, but his name lives on at Cheney Stadium, home of the Tacoma Rainiers, the Mariners’ triple-A affiliate. Cheney himself attends every game in the form of a bronze statue, eating peanuts and wearing a Cheney Studs jacket — how cool is that? Further details on the statue can be found here.

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January Raffle: Our friends at SoccerPro.com are generously partnering with me for another raffle. The winner will get his choice of any soccer jersey shown here, home or road. To enter, send a blank e-mail with your name in the subject line to the raffle address (not to the usual Uni Watch e-mail address, please) by next Wednesday, January 14th, at 10pm eastern. One entry per person, except for members of the Uni Watch membership program, who can send four entries. I’ll announce the winner the following day.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Lots of cool old photo in this blog devoted to Canadiens goalies (with thanks to Mike Hersh). ”¦ Ichiro in Zubaz — ugh (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ Now that’s a well-dressed elementary school team (with thanks to James Huening). ”¦ Interesting photo here. That’s a Japanese baseball team marching in uniform at a 4th of July parade in NYC in 1911. Further info/details here (nice find by Hadyn Green). ”¦ Attention Chance Michaels: You need to bid on this (with thanks to Stewart Joyner). ”¦ The bullpen buggy lives! Or at least it did in 1973. That’s Tug McGraw and Buddy Harrelson hitching a ride on the back (with thanks to Joe Alvaro). ”¦ The Cavs debuted their odd CavFanatics uni on Wednesday night (forcing the Bobcats to wear white on the road). ”¦ Not sure I’ve ever seen a pitcher wearing a batting glove on his glove hand before. I realize he was probably just wearing it for pregame long-toss, but it still looks very odd. ”¦ Excellent catch by Brandon Davis, who writes: “At Jason Giambi’s press conference, he was given his new jersey. But it’s really his old one — look closely and you’ll see it’s a Rawlings jersey, not Majestic. At the press conference you could see that the jock tag was sewn to the inside of the jersey, which means it’s probably a gamer that the A’s had in storage.” ”¦ Check out this NOB. That’s FC Porto player Givanildo Vieira de Souza, who’s known as Hulk because he looks like Lou Ferrigno (screen grab courtesy of Tyler Hull). ”¦ A Lions fan has commemorated his team’s “perfect” season with a tattoo. Details here (with thanks to Peter Kaszczak). ”¦ Hahahahahahaha. ”¦ Did you know that Robbie Ftorek and Claude Larose both wore No. 8 at the same time while playing for the WHA’s Cincy Stingers in 1977? I didn’t, until Jeff Barak pointed me toward this page (note the photo caption). ”¦ Cool old DePaul basketball pin available here. ”¦ Citi Field will be a serious pitcher’s park, at least according to this analysis (thanks, Vince). ”¦ Also from Vince: Here’s one of the most beautiful vintage baseball uniforms I’ve ever seen. Look at all that chain-stitching! ”¦ Here are two things you don’t often see: the Babe in color (it was his final Yankee Stadium appearance before his death) and a photographer with an eye patch (with thanks to Justin Rectenwald). ”¦ Here’s a first: a stadium renovation logo. Erick Schmidt doesn’t like the upside-down type along the bottom, but that’s hardly unprecedented. ”¦ Michael Princip spotted this on a 1977 NFL Films tape. This odd piece of headwear now takes its place alongside this and this, and this, all of which are documented on Princip’s amazing Seahawks-centric web site. ”¦ Cool bowling outfits! That’s one of many excellent shots in this photo gallery (with thanks to Chad Todd). ”¦ Mark Kaplowitz pointed me toward this shot. That’s the Converse logo near the waistband, but what’s the other logo on the shorts (also repeated on the jersey)? ”¦ As you may have heard by now, the financial mess is nothing to worry about as long as you’ve got a 140-year-old baseball card in the attic. ”¦ Now that is a serious front/back stirrup height disparity. Note the repair work on the left pant leg, too. ”¦ Somewhere out there, there’s a pair of these socks with my name on them. ”¦ Latest BCS team wearing specially patterned gloves: Florida. ”¦ This year’s Pro Bowl jerseys look even worse than usual (with thanks to Brandon Diamond). ”¦ Check out this gorgeous ABC overcoat that Jim McKay wore for the Winter Olympics way back when (with thanks to Jim Sullivan). ”¦ See that black line along the top of Mike Comrie’s visor? According to MSG+ color man Billy Jaffe, that’s eye black, which Comrie recently started applying to his visor to cut down on glare from the arena lights. … My thanks to everyone who wished me and my jaw a speedy recovery. Turns out I got off easy — no swelling, no pain to speak of, and I should be able to go back to solid food today (but I might stick with soft food cuz it’s so much fun to eat a pint of ice cream for lunch).

 
  
 
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    Thanks for the picture of the tooth yesterday. Nothing says good morning like a bloody tooth.

    I think the mystery logo is Descente. They also did some of the mid 70’s Pirate jerseys.

    The ECHL’s Las Vegas Wranglers have done it again. Prison uniforms tied to a certain Illinois governor!

    link

    Do you think minor league puckster Robin Big Snake wears BIG SNAKE on his nameplate or just SNAKE? May we suggest MONGO SERPENT?

    link

    Re: Rollie Fingers wearing the batting glove on his glove hand. I had never given this much thought, but always assumed that many players did it.

    I always wore a batting glove on my glove hand, for a better fit and a less sweaty glove.

    That picture of Fingers had to have been from BP. Pitchers are not allowed to wear anything on their hands except for the glove. No batting gloves allowed.

    Wow…Kauffman Stadium is going to be so beautiful when its completed, not that it wasnt already.

    UGGGGHH why can Reebok just do a plain uniform with team logos!!!!

    [quote comment=”309263″]That picture of Fingers had to have been from BP. Pitchers are not allowed to wear anything on their hands except for the glove. No batting gloves allowed.[/quote]

    Many position players do this, however it is odd for a pitcher to do it. I may be mistaken, but I think there is actually a rule now that does not allow pitchers to do so.

    [quote]Kauffman Stadium is going to be so beautiful when its completed, not that it wasnt already.[/quote]

    any word on whether a major league team will be playing there?

    [quote comment=”309260″]The ECHL’s Las Vegas Wranglers have done it again. Prison uniforms tied to a certain Illinois governor!

    link

    That entire concept with both teams and the refs involved must be unprecedented in sports.

    Here’s an interesting “nugget”. Juventus (Italian soccer giant) head equipment manager was arrested for stealing 2000 game and practice shirts to fence in Spain. Total value over $20,000.

    link

    Hulk is also Brazilian, hence the nickname in singular. He played in Japan for Tokyo Verdy before joining FC Porto. Quite a jump for a Brazilian from a lower level league.

    Lambeau Field had a renovation logo back in 2001-2003. It was the same as the current logo link

    Except the guy was holding a hammer instead of a football.

    Construction workers wore patches on their jackets and such.

    [quote comment=”309269″][quote]Kauffman Stadium is going to be so beautiful when its completed, not that it wasnt already.[/quote]

    any word on whether a major league team will be playing there?[/quote]Yes, the Royals will host a number of them throughout the year.

    [quote comment=”309269″][quote]Kauffman Stadium is going to be so beautiful when its completed, not that it wasnt already.[/quote]

    any word on whether a major league team will be playing there?[/quote]

    ouch that hurts…I predict above .500 winning pct this year, we are heading in the right direction, a fan since birth never cheered for anyone else…nor will I ever.

    [quote comment=”309274″][quote comment=”309269″][quote]Kauffman Stadium is going to be so beautiful when its completed, not that it wasnt already.[/quote]

    any word on whether a major league team will be playing there?[/quote]Yes, the Royals will host a number of them throughout the year.[/quote]

    I would daresay the early leader on C.O.T.D.!

    When I pitched in high school, I would regularly wear a batting glove under the fielding glove. Helped keep the glove snug while fielding and added a little extra padding on the unfortunate occurance of a screamer at your head…

    Does anyone know if Brasil is the only country that puts player’s nicknames(Hulk, Kaka, Robinho, etc.)or first names on their jersey’s? My wife is Brasilian and she claims they are the only soccer players to do this, but…

    Boy, that one-eyed photographer looks like he should be trying to assassinate Hitler. I hope security checked his camera before they let him in!

    FWIW, the airplane depicted in the Cheney Studs section is a Beechcraft V35 Bonanza (which has a very distinctive V tail instead of a traditional rudder-plus-elevator arrangement.) However, it’s unlikely that any of those teams actually travelled as a team in that airplane – it only has four or six seats.

    ed

    [quote comment=”309260″]The ECHL’s Las Vegas Wranglers have done it again. Prison uniforms tied to a certain Illinois governor!

    link
    LOL!

    I love it!

    Only thing that could be better is if they had a bench clearing brawl and the refs had to break out batons to break up the fights…

    Wow. What an interesting Seahawks fan helmet.

    I wonder if they made them in plain silver during the Seahawks’ first season when the team didn’t have a logo on their helmet.

    [quote comment=”309278″]Does anyone know if Brasil is the only country that puts player’s nicknames(Hulk, Kaka, Robinho, etc.)or first names on their jersey’s? My wife is Brasilian and she claims they are the only soccer players to do this, but…[/quote]

    Not really, plenty of Portuguese and Spanish players do it for both club and country.

    Since both cultures tend toward long surnames it is not really practical to use the full name so nicknames or given names tend to be used. This carries over to all sports.

    [quote comment=”309285″]Wow. What an interesting Seahawks fan helmet.

    I wonder if they made them in plain silver during the Seahawks’ first season when the team didn’t have a logo on their helmet.[/quote]

    I think that Seahawks “hat” may also functioned as a can opener (for those of us who remember can openers…y’know, a “church key”).

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”309285″]Wow. What an interesting Seahawks fan helmet.

    I wonder if they made them in plain silver during the Seahawks’ first season when the team didn’t have a logo on their helmet.[/quote]

    The Seahawks always had a logo on their helmet, minus some training camp/scrimmages in ’76. Don’t let the early Topps trading cards fool ya.

    link

    A serious question for all of you Typography fans ou there:

    1. What font is used for the Chicago Bears numbers?

    2. What font is used for the Chicago Bears nameplates?

    3. What font is used for the Chicago Bears GSH treatment for the sleeve?

    [quote comment=”309288″]From The Onion:
    Tim Gunn Takes Wizards Shopping For Less Hideous Uniforms

    link

    Same article linked to in the ticker: see “Hahahahahahaha”

    [quote comment=”309270″][quote comment=”309260″]The ECHL’s Las Vegas Wranglers have done it again. Prison uniforms tied to a certain Illinois governor!

    link

    That entire concept with both teams and the refs involved must be unprecedented in sports.[/quote]

    The ECHL has something like this at least once per season. The former Quad City Mallards were notorious for promotions like these.

    That Cheney entry was the best thing I’ve read in some time. Topped only by the piece in the Seattle paper. He’s a guy I wish I had met, though I would have been a lad in ’71. That statue is the coolest thing going.

    He would have been the Ewing Kauffman of Tacoma. Someday, the Royals will field a team worthy of Mr. Kauffman. I look forward to visiting the updated Kauffman Stadium. It was a thing of beauty, but increasingly, the do-dads added by the Glass family just made it look more and more tacky.

    [quote comment=”309291″]A serious question for all of you Typography fans ou there:

    1. What font is used for the Chicago Bears numbers?

    2. What font is used for the Chicago Bears nameplates?

    3. What font is used for the Chicago Bears GSH treatment for the sleeve?[/quote]

    Papa Bear Rounded Condensed, I think.

    That logo on the USA basketball unis is def Descente. They supplied the US Olympic teams for a few years.
    Regarding the batting glove under a pitcher’s glove hand, it is illegal for a pitcher to wear a batting glove under the glove. Distracting to the pitcher, dontcha know. NFHS rules at least.

    “Does anyone know if Brasil is the only country that puts player’s nicknames(Hulk, Kaka, Robinho, etc.)or first names on their jersey’s? My wife is Brasilian and she claims they are the only soccer players to do this, but…”

    “Not really, plenty of Portuguese and Spanish players do it for both club and country. Since both cultures tend toward long surnames it is not really practical to use the full name so nicknames or given names tend to be used. This carries over to all sports.”

    It’s even more common than that, I think. In one recent example, the French footballer Lassana Diarra, who recently transferred from Portsmouth in England to Real Madrid, began wearing the name “Lass”. He was acquired as a replacement for the injured Mahamadou Diarra, to whom he has no relation. Lassana decided to wear “Lass”, he says, because he didn’t want to feel like “the other Diarra” — yet he is wearing the same no. 6 that Mahamadou formerly wore. (Reminds me of Will Clark taking up Jack Clark’s no. 22 with the Giants.)

    The Red Bulls’ Serbian player Sinisa Ubiparapovic wore “Sinisa” during his first year with the team in 2007; but switched to his surname this past season, I believe under orders from the league.

    Even baseball has had at least a few examples of this — Vida Blue wore “Vida” on his uniform beginning in 1978 when he went to the Giants; and Billy Coningliaro wore “Billy C.” on his Oakland A’s uni in 1973.

    [quote comment=”309297″]Neither of these guys look like Tom Rathman and what’s up with those unis?

    link

    40=William Floyd from FSU
    44=Marc Edwards from ND

    I think

    Ricko, where might I find the Bears font?

    Perhaps on this Interweb thing?

    Phil, help me out. You are like Typography master!

    As a Mets fan, I am deeply saddened by today’s UniWatch ESPN article. I was holding out hope that the so-called inaugural patch wasn’t accurate, but how could Paul Lukas be wrong? The Mets won’t, check that, shouldn’t, be selling many authentic jerseys next season.

    [quote comment=”309301″][quote comment=”309297″]Neither of these guys look like Tom Rathman and what’s up with those unis?

    link

    40=William Floyd from FSU
    44=Marc Edwards from ND

    I think

    Ricko, where might I find the Bears font?

    Perhaps on this Interweb thing?

    Phil, help me out. You are like Typography master![/quote]

    If 44 isn’t Marc Edwards, he COULD pass for John Daly!

    Did you notice the “other” bullpen car in the background behind the fence in that pic? Looks like the logo is NOT a Mets logo, either. More like an SF or SD or something.

    For more of Tug McGraw in bullpen cars, go to the 2:10 mark of link

    [quote comment=”309283″]The Stingers had one of the best WHA logos…

    link

    The cougars is m favorite though.

    link
    I’ve always been a fan of the link logo, but then again I love cartoon-y logos (the skating Penguin, the old Bucks, etc.)

    The photographer may have been wearing an eyepatch to reduce fatigue for is non-viewfinding eye. If you take a lot of pictures with a traditional viewfinder, you need to keep one eye closed. I’ve seen photogs use tape or eyepatches to reduce strain from frequent, prolonged winking.

    [quote comment=”309300″]best picture of the new gator-print gloves
    link

    Go Gators![/quote]

    Great find!

    It definitely seems as if he cut off the velcro straps that close the gloves.

    You can see the Orange velcro strap in Paul’ pic of them in the ticker.

    link

    [quote comment=”309301″]Ricko, where might I find the Bears font?

    Perhaps on this Interweb thing?

    Phil, help me out. You are like Typography master![/quote]

    try this…oh wait…

    i searched for it for a few minutes, no luck…maybe James (JTH) can help ya out when he checks in…

    [quote comment=”309297″]Neither of these guys look like Tom Rathman and what’s up with those unis?

    link

    Yeah – another poster was correct – it is Marc Edwards – and the uniform in question is pre-season practice togs 1996 when the 49ers were in-between sets (the classic set and the current set with the old white pants circa 1996-97).

    maybe the guy who tattooed the Lions 0-16 will next get a tat of the Mets Sleeve Patch….

    (When I see shoddy/lazy work like that Mets sleeve patch, I highly question the team that works on it and wonder how some people keep their jobs…?)

    In the past couple months, didn’t someone post a link they’d found to directory that had the fonts, both letters and numbers, for just about every pro team in the major sports?

    I was saying with that “Papa Bear” reference that I’ve never run across that font and was wondering if it wasn’t an original set of numbers designed for the Bears long ago, and the word font was developed from it when the need for NOB came along.

    [quote comment=”309299″]”Does anyone know if Brasil is the only country that puts player’s nicknames(Hulk, Kaka, Robinho, etc.)or first names on their jersey’s? My wife is Brasilian and she claims they are the only soccer players to do this, but…”

    “Not really, plenty of Portuguese and Spanish players do it for both club and country. Since both cultures tend toward long surnames it is not really practical to use the full name so nicknames or given names tend to be used. This carries over to all sports.”

    It’s even more common than that, I think. In one recent example, the French footballer Lassana Diarra, who recently transferred from Portsmouth in England to Real Madrid, began wearing the name “Lass”. He was acquired as a replacement for the injured Mahamadou Diarra, to whom he has no relation. Lassana decided to wear “Lass”, he says, because he didn’t want to feel like “the other Diarra” — yet he is wearing the same no. 6 that Mahamadou formerly wore. (Reminds me of Will Clark taking up Jack Clark’s no. 22 with the Giants.)

    The Red Bulls’ Serbian player Sinisa Ubiparapovic wore “Sinisa” during his first year with the team in 2007; but switched to his surname this past season, I believe under orders from the league.

    Even baseball has had at least a few examples of this — Vida Blue wore “Vida” on his uniform beginning in 1978 when he went to the Giants; and Billy Coningliaro wore “Billy C.” on his Oakland A’s uni in 1973.[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nene of the NBA’s Denver Nuggets.

    [quote comment=”309313″][quote comment=”309299″]”Does anyone know if Brasil is the only country that puts player’s nicknames(Hulk, Kaka, Robinho, etc.)or first names on their jersey’s? My wife is Brasilian and she claims they are the only soccer players to do this, but…”

    “Not really, plenty of Portuguese and Spanish players do it for both club and country. Since both cultures tend toward long surnames it is not really practical to use the full name so nicknames or given names tend to be used. This carries over to all sports.”

    It’s even more common than that, I think. In one recent example, the French footballer Lassana Diarra, who recently transferred from Portsmouth in England to Real Madrid, began wearing the name “Lass”. He was acquired as a replacement for the injured Mahamadou Diarra, to whom he has no relation. Lassana decided to wear “Lass”, he says, because he didn’t want to feel like “the other Diarra” — yet he is wearing the same no. 6 that Mahamadou formerly wore. (Reminds me of Will Clark taking up Jack Clark’s no. 22 with the Giants.)

    The Red Bulls’ Serbian player Sinisa Ubiparapovic wore “Sinisa” during his first year with the team in 2007; but switched to his surname this past season, I believe under orders from the league.

    Even baseball has had at least a few examples of this — Vida Blue wore “Vida” on his uniform beginning in 1978 when he went to the Giants; and Billy Coningliaro wore “Billy C.” on his Oakland A’s uni in 1973.[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nene of the NBA’s Denver Nuggets.[/quote]

    Ken Harrelson had “HAWK” when he was with the Indians.
    link

    How do the Mets keep mucking up good things? Talented players? Check.
    Late Season Playoff Position? Check.
    Massive Payroll? Check.
    Classy Primary Uni Colors? Check.
    New State-of-the-Art Stadium? Check.

    I hope for the Mets’ fans’ sake that this (and/or getting sponsorship from the crumbling financial sector) is the biggest f#%& up they make with their new Stadium.

    Paul:

    Seems like the first two links after “Even better: the Cheney Studs Courteers”… are borked.

    Sucks, because the whole Courteers thing is facinating! Excellent entry today!

    That Yankees sleeve patch looks great next to the Mets’ dull garbage. I just noticed that the “2009” on the Yanks’ patch is in the same font as the headlines in the New York Times; what a great touch!

    The font on the Mets’ Citi Field logo, on the other hand, looks like something off a highway sign or park trail marker. A highway sign that some prankish kids knocked askew. What a disgrace.

    [quote comment=”309310″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    link

    Wow. Awesome piece of writing today, Paul. I think you may grab some attention from the Mets front office with that article…and rightfully so. Even without my “uni watch bias” I agree that it is the worst patch I have ever seen by far.

    [quote comment=”309316″]Paul:

    Seems like the first two links after “Even better: the Cheney Studs Courteers”… are borked.

    Sucks, because the whole Courteers thing is facinating! Excellent entry today![/quote]

    Fixed. Thanks!

    [quote comment=”309313″]
    Don’t forget Nene of the NBA’s Denver Nuggets.[/quote]

    Following up on my own comment, I always found Nene’s name to be a little funny. Thanks to my work at the zoo, a link, more commonly called a Hawaiian goose.

    link does not equal link on any level. LOL

    Wow that Mets patch is terrible. Looks like something you could find on a Little League uniform. Good call Paul it is the worst sleeve patch in MLB history.

    [quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?

    Holy Crapola, you’re not kidding about that patch. And indeed, the cliches of “my kid could have done better” don’t even come close to describing… wow, just wow.

    Its almost as if the designer got the shaft on payment or something and just threw this together in a few minutes and sent it along.

    [quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    Slide the files into your fonts folder. They will beecome available to use.

    [quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    my machine (windows vista) opens them like a folder in windows explorer. but winzip or winrar are good for opening .zip files.
    To give credit where credit is due, Paul hooked me up with that link several months ago when I had a similar question. Unsure who Eriq Jaffe is, but he seems to be the one who put the sets together, so credit to him too!

    [quote comment=”309327″][quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    Slide the files into your fonts folder. They will beecome available to use.[/quote]

    whoops. misunderstood the question. that is the right answer.

    The Canadiens goalie page – Absolument magnifique! Friggin’ sweet! (Check out all those early 90’s Patrick Roy mask copycats!)

    If I ever get a chance to talk to Coach Ftorek, I’ll ask him about that link thing – if he even remembers it! I’m sure he’ll throw a link at me if I don’t mention anything about the Otters though ;-)

    [quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    I can open the files automatically, however I can’t download the fonts to my school computer.

    I will wait until I get home to do that.

    I’ve done it in the past with the Tolkien fonts.

    Not only am I a sneaker/football helmet/uni nerd, but a LOTR fiend as well.

    On a PC, you can go through the Control Panel and install new fonts.

    On January 18th, the Philadelphia Phantoms (Flyers’ AHL affiliate) are going to wear throwbacks from the 1976 NHL All-Star Game. Details link and I will be attending the game so I’ll be sure to take pictures.

    [quote comment=”309329″][quote comment=”309327″][quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    Slide the files into your fonts folder. They will beecome available to use.[/quote]

    whoops. misunderstood the question. that is the right answer.[/quote]

    Wow, that seems much easier! Thank you.

    [quote comment=”309309″][quote comment=”309297″]Neither of these guys look like Tom Rathman and what’s up with those unis?

    link

    Yeah – another poster was correct – it is Marc Edwards – and the uniform in question is pre-season practice togs 1996 when the 49ers were in-between sets (the classic set and the current set with the old white pants circa 1996-97).[/quote]
    The guy in the civvies might be Rathman, but his hair looks a bit dark.

    [quote comment=”309323″][quote comment=”309310″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    link

    (did they really need one at all?)[/quote]

    Hallelujah!

    [quote comment=”309314″][quote comment=”309313″][quote comment=”309299″]”Does anyone know if Brasil is the only country that puts player’s nicknames(Hulk, Kaka, Robinho, etc.)or first names on their jersey’s? My wife is Brasilian and she claims they are the only soccer players to do this, but…”

    “Not really, plenty of Portuguese and Spanish players do it for both club and country. Since both cultures tend toward long surnames it is not really practical to use the full name so nicknames or given names tend to be used. This carries over to all sports.”

    It’s even more common than that, I think. In one recent example, the French footballer Lassana Diarra, who recently transferred from Portsmouth in England to Real Madrid, began wearing the name “Lass”. He was acquired as a replacement for the injured Mahamadou Diarra, to whom he has no relation. Lassana decided to wear “Lass”, he says, because he didn’t want to feel like “the other Diarra” — yet he is wearing the same no. 6 that Mahamadou formerly wore. (Reminds me of Will Clark taking up Jack Clark’s no. 22 with the Giants.)

    The Red Bulls’ Serbian player Sinisa Ubiparapovic wore “Sinisa” during his first year with the team in 2007; but switched to his surname this past season, I believe under orders from the league.

    Even baseball has had at least a few examples of this — Vida Blue wore “Vida” on his uniform beginning in 1978 when he went to the Giants; and Billy Coningliaro wore “Billy C.” on his Oakland A’s uni in 1973.[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nene of the NBA’s Denver Nuggets.[/quote]

    Ken Harrelson had “HAWK” when he was with the Indians.
    link

    I’m pretty sure it is a Portuguese thing. Sure you can find cases of athletes who use nicknames in non-lusophone countries but it is the norm in Brazil, Portugal, and Angola.

    [quote comment=”309310″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    link

    Paul,

    You should do a contest with a blank Mets patch to see who comes up with 1) the funniest, 2) best, and 3) Worse, if there is such a thing.

    [quote comment=”309334″][quote comment=”309329″][quote comment=”309327″][quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    Slide the files into your fonts folder. They will beecome available to use.[/quote]

    whoops. misunderstood the question. that is the right answer.[/quote]

    Wow, that seems much easier! Thank you.[/quote]

    agreed thanks

    oops…that patch is so bad I couldn’t even read the next couple paragraphs before I posted

    [quote comment=”309338″]The last football game at YS:
    link
    Lot’s of little goodies here.[/quote]

    They didn’t run the interview with Roman Gabriel, did they? The one where he said “Whats with the tie? I had no idea!!”

    [quote comment=”309343″][quote comment=”309338″]The last football game at YS:
    link
    Lot’s of little goodies here.[/quote]

    They didn’t run the interview with Roman Gabriel, did they? The one where he said “Whats with the tie? I had no idea!!”[/quote]

    No, but Alex Webster forgot overtime was starting NEXT year!

    [quote comment=”309322″][quote comment=”309313″]
    Don’t forget Nene of the NBA’s Denver Nuggets.[/quote]

    Following up on my own comment, I always found Nene’s name to be a little funny. Thanks to my work at the zoo, a link, more commonly called a Hawaiian goose.

    link does not equal link on any level. LOL[/quote]
    Believe it or not, Nene pulled off the old Ocho Cinco trick.
    Nene was born with the name Maybyner Hilario, and had that name in the beginning of his career. He requested permission to wear his nickname, “Nene,” on his back so his jersey could be more marketable in Brazil. His request was denied, so Denver’s #31 played as link for a while.
    He since legally changed his name to Maybyner Nene, so now, he can have the NOB he always wanted, without violating NBA NOB rules. No word as to whether or not Reebok held his switcheroo hostage in the name of unsold stock.

    [quote comment=”309334″][quote comment=”309329″][quote comment=”309327″][quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    Slide the files into your fonts folder. They will beecome available to use.[/quote]

    whoops. misunderstood the question. that is the right answer.[/quote]

    Wow, that seems much easier! Thank you.[/quote]

    Just as a caveat, Matt, don’t slide the zipped file in there. Make sure it’s just the font file. Otherwise, the font won’t be available. :o)

    The photographer may have been wearing an eyepatch to reduce fatigue for is non-viewfinding eye. If you take a lot of pictures with a traditional viewfinder, you need to keep one eye closed. I’ve seen photogs use tape or eyepatches to reduce strain from frequent, prolonged winking.

    I thought about that as well, but he appears to be holding one of the old school 4×5’s that were very common for photojournalists at the time. The “sports” viewfinder for these was usually a wire square that mounter on the top of the camera so that the photographer could see the action outside the frame as well–thus, no squinting.

    Thanks to all on the abbreviation/nickname question–I was pretty sure that couldn’t be right, but why argue with the wife on the little stuff–she loves to make comments like that about Brasil!

    So glad FOX took the time to update us “casual fans” on the differences between college ball and the pros last night. Thom Brennaman got off this gem “one difference between college and pro is the clock doesn’t stop at the two-minute warning”.

    I guess that why I never noticed it before.

    Only two words can describe the quality of last night’s broadcast: Jefferson Pilot.

    [quote comment=”309346″][quote comment=”309334″][quote comment=”309329″][quote comment=”309327″][quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    Slide the files into your fonts folder. They will beecome available to use.[/quote]

    whoops. misunderstood the question. that is the right answer.[/quote]

    Wow, that seems much easier! Thank you.[/quote]

    Just as a caveat, Matt, don’t slide the zipped file in there. Make sure it’s just the font file. Otherwise, the font won’t be available. :o)[/quote]

    I have to admit that I am a self-diagnosed bear of very little brain.

    To prevent 100 posts of how do you do this, please humor us and explain:

    1. What’s the difference?
    2. How?

    [quote comment=”309349″]I have to admit that I am a self-diagnosed bear of very little brain.

    To prevent 100 posts of how do you do this, please humor us and explain:

    1. What’s the difference?
    2. How?[/quote]

    primer

    Paul,

    Why’d you have to go and insult those teachers of drama? I know several Junior High drama teachers, and they would never use something as weak as that Mets patch for their club!

    :)

    [quote comment=”309351″]Paul,

    Why’d you have to go and insult those teachers of drama? I know several Junior High drama teachers, and they would never use something as weak as that Mets patch for their club!

    :)[/quote]

    The patch looks more like a “new” public transportation logo.

    “Hey. We’re gonna get all crazy, take the old logo and tilt it! Riding the bus is outta site!”

    [quote comment=”309350″][quote comment=”309349″]I have to admit that I am a self-diagnosed bear of very little brain.

    To prevent 100 posts of how do you do this, please humor us and explain:

    1. What’s the difference?
    2. How?[/quote]

    link[/quote]

    For all of us who might have asked this question, thanks.

    [quote comment=”309349″]
    To prevent 100 posts of how do you do this, please humor us and explain:

    1. What’s the difference?
    2. How?[/quote]

    Without knowing whether you’re running Windows or a Mac, I’ll assume you’re on a PC.

    1. Click Start –> Settings –> Control Panel.
    2. Open the font folder and leave it open on your desktop.
    3. Locate the zipped file on your desktop, and right-click. Select “Extract Here”. The file contained within the zipped file will appear on your desktop.
    4. Click-and-drag the unzipped file into the fonts folder, and allow it to copy. Normally, font files have a .TTF or a .fon extension.
    5. Access MS Word, and check the fonts. It should appear in the list of fonts.

    Here’s something for you all. The link. A “Professional style Basketball Jersey with tackle twill lettering.”

    Enjoy.

    [quote comment=”309354″][quote comment=”309349″]
    To prevent 100 posts of how do you do this, please humor us and explain:

    1. What’s the difference?
    2. How?[/quote]

    Without knowing whether you’re running Windows or a Mac, I’ll assume you’re on a PC.

    1. Click Start –> Settings –> Control Panel.
    2. Open the font folder and leave it open on your desktop.
    3. Locate the zipped file on your desktop, and right-click. Select “Extract Here”. The file contained within the zipped file will appear on your desktop.
    4. Click-and-drag the unzipped file into the fonts folder, and allow it to copy. Normally, font files have a .TTF or a .fon extension.
    5. Access MS Word, and check the fonts. It should appear in the list of fonts.[/quote]

    PC

    1. How did the font folder get placed on the desktop?

    2. The zipped file is supposedly on your desktop.
    Are you supposed to download the zipped file from the web to your desktop?

    I understand why they will both ne on the desktop…for easy transfer…I just get lost along the way.

    Anyway, thank everyone… I’ll try it at home later. Back to unis

    what’s up with the Crabeliers constantly being allowed to force the away team to switch jerseys? there has to be some rule in the NBA for this stuff or is it just a jersey form of the crab dribble?

    [quote comment=”309260″]The ECHL’s Las Vegas Wranglers have done it again. Prison uniforms tied to a certain Illinois governor!

    link

    We really ought to pay more attention to things like this and band together as UniWatchers and tell the people who plan these sort of things to pound salt. Seriously. Disgusting.

    [quote comment=”309311″]When I see shoddy/lazy work like that Mets sleeve patch, I highly question the team that works on it and wonder how some people keep their jobs…?[/quote]

    Unfortunately, as long as the client for whom the patch is being made for is happy with the finished product, it doesn’t matter how ugly we think the design is. Don’t blame the designer for the lackluster design; blame the Wilpons for saying “yes, this is exactly what we want!!!”

    Brasilian soccer player Frederico Chaves Guedes, who plays for Lyon, goes by Fred. Not too surprising, but compared to nicknames like Socrates and Kaka, Fred looks odd.

    Haven’t visited the site in nearly a week, so forgive me if this has been posted ad nauseum, but has anyone else seen this

    link

    Is the USFL really making a return?

    [quote comment=”309357″]what’s up with the Crabeliers constantly being allowed to force the away team to switch jerseys? there has to be some rule in the NBA for this stuff or is it just a jersey form of the crab dribble?[/quote]
    Honestly, these new “fan jerseys” remind me of the Nike Rewind line. (Nike Rewind was a series of Nike-branded Swingman jerseys with throwback designs, using artistic liberties with color choices and modern players. It was sold at retail, but never came close to the court.)
    Dear Cleveland, enough jerseys! Enough, already!
    (Unrelated PS: Could we get Triumph, Conan O’Brien’s Insult Comic Dog, on Uni Watch? I’m sure he’d say, “The Mets’ Citi Field Inaugural Season uniform patch is great! For me to poop on!”)

    My first thought when coming here today was:

    “If Bryan was still posting entries, we’d probably see a picture of that OU bandmember with the tear running down her face to lead off the column today.”

    [quote comment=”309364″]My first thought when coming here today was:

    “If Bryan was still posting entries, we’d probably see a picture of that OU bandmember with the tear running down her face to lead off the column today.”[/quote]

    is that good or bad?

    [quote comment=”309331″][quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    I can open the files automatically, however I can’t download the fonts to my school computer.

    I will wait until I get home to do that.

    I’ve done it in the past with the Tolkien fonts.

    Not only am I a sneaker/football helmet/uni nerd, but a LOTR fiend as well.

    On a PC, you can go through the Control Panel and install new fonts.[/quote]

    Show guru…LOTR fiend… What else is awesome about you Mr. Powers??!!

    As an aside, I got my fiancee the Evenstar Necklace for Valentines Day a few years ago:
    link

    And I have also purchased the Light of Elendil for myself that sits on my desk:

    “I give you the light of Elendil, our most beloved star. May it be a light
    for you in dark places, when all other lights go out.”
    link

    So yes, I am a huge LOTR nerd myself.

    [quote comment=”309366″][quote comment=”309331″][quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    I can open the files automatically, however I can’t download the fonts to my school computer.

    I will wait until I get home to do that.

    I’ve done it in the past with the Tolkien fonts.

    Not only am I a sneaker/football helmet/uni nerd, but a LOTR fiend as well.

    On a PC, you can go through the Control Panel and install new fonts.[/quote]

    Show guru…LOTR fiend… What else is awesome about you Mr. Powers??!!

    As an aside, I got my fiancee the Evenstar Necklace for Valentines Day a few years ago:
    link

    And I have also purchased the Light of Elendil for myself that sits on my desk:

    “I give you the light of Elendil, our most beloved star. May it be a light
    for you in dark places, when all other lights go out.”
    link

    So yes, I am a huge LOTR nerd myself.[/quote]

    *And by “show guru”, I of course meant “shoe guru”. Thanks.

    [quote comment=”309360″][quote comment=”309311″]When I see shoddy/lazy work like that Mets sleeve patch, I highly question the team that works on it and wonder how some people keep their jobs…?[/quote]

    Unfortunately, as long as the client for whom the patch is being made for is happy with the finished product, it doesn’t matter how ugly we think the design is. Don’t blame the designer for the lackluster design; blame the Wilpons for saying “yes, this is exactly what we want!!!”[/quote]

    Believe me, I understand that with my career choice…it’s just frustrating though to see work like this (obviously done by a desginger with lack of professional skills), and when I compare it to others (of the higher end)designers that I know/work with, it just sends a signal to me that a)yes: it’s all about the client
    b)some desingers are hurting others with inferior products
    c)I put more effort into my 5am-6am show graphics and I probably get paid far-far less than those who put together that horrid product….
    d) In the end, it’s who knows you…and who you know…

    sorry for the rant…feel much better now!

    [quote comment=”309367″][quote comment=”309366″][quote comment=”309331″][quote comment=”309325″][quote comment=”309321″][quote comment=”309317″]fonts:
    link

    AWESOME!!! Thank you…[/quote]

    my computer is asking me what to open the fonts with. what did you use?[/quote]

    I can open the files automatically, however I can’t download the fonts to my school computer.

    I will wait until I get home to do that.

    I’ve done it in the past with the Tolkien fonts.

    Not only am I a sneaker/football helmet/uni nerd, but a LOTR fiend as well.

    On a PC, you can go through the Control Panel and install new fonts.[/quote]

    Show guru…LOTR fiend… What else is awesome about you Mr. Powers??!!

    As an aside, I got my fiancee the Evenstar Necklace for Valentines Day a few years ago:
    link

    And I have also purchased the Light of Elendil for myself that sits on my desk:

    “I give you the light of Elendil, our most beloved star. May it be a light
    for you in dark places, when all other lights go out.”
    link

    So yes, I am a huge LOTR nerd myself.[/quote]

    *And by “show guru”, I of course meant “shoe guru”. Thanks.[/quote]

    Ahhh yes, forgot to mention my Gandalf mouse pad:
    link

    OK, enough of me showing how nerdy I am.

    [quote comment=”309356″]
    PC

    1. How did the font folder get placed on the desktop?

    2. The zipped file is supposedly on your desktop.
    Are you supposed to download the zipped file from the web to your desktop?

    I understand why they will both ne on the desktop…for easy transfer…I just get lost along the way.

    Anyway, thank everyone… I’ll try it at home later. Back to unis[/quote]

    1. The font folder isn’t on the desktop… just the open font window is. Sorry… should have been more clear on that one.

    2. When you download a file from the Internet, it should allow you to select where you want to the download to go to. You can choose desktop from this screen.

    Matt, if you need additional help, email me. I’d be happy to assist since IT help is what I do for a living. You can get my address from Phil if you like.

    “Brasilian soccer player Frederico Chaves Guedes, who plays for Lyon, goes by Fred. Not too surprising, but compared to nicknames like Socrates and Kaka, Fred looks odd.”

    And this shows the problem with this Brazilian practice: D.C. United have a different player also nicknamed “Fred”, full name Helbert Frederico Carreiro da Silva. (Of course, it must be noted that the practice of using surnames didn’t prevent the presence of two Gene Washingtons in the NFL in the 70s — to say nothing of the two Bob Millers with the Mets in 1962.)

    Somtimes the nicknames evolve and change to prevent this duplication. The player currently known as “Ronaldo” was formerly called “Ronaldinho” when he played alongside another player who was called originally called “Ronaldo” but who later came to be called “Ronaldão”. When the current “Ronaldinho” emerged, he was called “Ronaldinho Gaucho” to distinguish him from first “Ronaldinho”. But, then the first “Ronaldinho” eventually became known as “Ronaldo”, and so “Ronaldinho Gaucho” could then be known simply as “Ronaldinho”. (Got that? Good!)

    Now, one might wonder what would happen if another “Ronaldo” appears. Never fear! The original “Ronaldo/Ronaldão” is retired, so there is now room for the other two guys to shift upwards, if need be.

    Obviously much simpler than using surnames.

    After both the Colts and Dolphins lost last week, we were assured a pretty brutal Divisional round weekend, uniform-wise. With the clown suits worn by the Eagles, Ravens, Titans, Cardinals and Chargers, we are only saved by the Steelers, Panthers (just barely) and of course the Giants.

    And let’s not even get into the particular use of numbers in Brasilian league and national soccer–and the way it translates to the premier league.

    Ask a Brasilian who #10 is and what it means. I dare you!

    im not a mets fan but i read on si.com in an article by heyman that some of the mets think citifield is going to be a hitter’s park. i dont care that much who is right but figured id point it out.

    So I can’t decide which was more worthless during the BCS title game last night…

    The announcers going apeshit whether or not the Sooners would go for the TD instead of the FG (it was 3rd down) on the goalline…

    The 8,000,000 shots of the bands during the game…

    The clock that was timing the amount of seconds OU spent before each snap…

    or

    The need of the broadcasters to stress to us the differences in clock stoppages between the NFL and college after every first down.

    Who needs such mundane things like replays and a play clock… As long as they had their obligatory band shot after every play, all was gravy.

    [quote comment=”309339″][quote comment=”309310″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    link

    Paul,

    You should do a contest with a blank Mets patch to see who comes up with 1) the funniest, 2) best, and 3) Worse, if there is such a thing.[/quote]
    A contest would have to be done by 3rd graders to see if they could, indeed, come up with something better than this.

    Granted, here’s my attempt… link

    [quote comment=”309378″][quote comment=”309339″][quote comment=”309310″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    link

    Paul,

    You should do a contest with a blank Mets patch to see who comes up with 1) the funniest, 2) best, and 3) Worse, if there is such a thing.[/quote]
    A contest would have to be done by 3rd graders to see if they could, indeed, come up with something better than this.

    Granted, here’s my attempt… link

    The Vancouver Canucks did such a thing with children in British Columbia. The children were asked to submit designs of what they wanted the new Canucks alternate jerseys to look like.

    Here are the link.

    [quote comment=”309371″][quote comment=”309356″]
    PC

    1. How did the font folder get placed on the desktop?

    2. The zipped file is supposedly on your desktop.
    Are you supposed to download the zipped file from the web to your desktop?

    I understand why they will both ne on the desktop…for easy transfer…I just get lost along the way.

    Anyway, thank everyone… I’ll try it at home later. Back to unis[/quote]

    1. The font folder isn’t on the desktop… just the open font window is. Sorry… should have been more clear on that one.

    2. When you download a file from the Internet, it should allow you to select where you want to the download to go to. You can choose desktop from this screen.

    Matt, if you need additional help, email me. I’d be happy to assist since IT help is what I do for a living. You can get my address from Phil if you like.[/quote]

    Teebz: Thanks, I can handle this. I was just unclear on a few directions.

    Johnny O.: I’ve read the four novels, as well as the Silmarillion, etc a number of times.

    The only other fonts that I have downloaded were the Tengwar.

    I was going to tattoo my daughters names and birthdays in Annatar on my forearms but couldn’t pull the trigger.

    link

    Plus, the costume design, UNI-wise is incredible. Watch the making-of documentary, the uniform design is incredible.

    Mike Engle: Great call. The Cavs gear would fit well with those swingman jerseys.

    link

    link

    I especially liked the 76ers kits.

    link

    [quote comment=”309374″]And let’s not even get into the particular use of numbers in Brasilian league and national soccer–and the way it translates to the premier league.

    Ask a Brasilian who #10 is and what it means. I dare you![/quote]

    Not only a Brazilian thing, but all soccer. I’m fairly certain all international football/soccer once had strict numbering (starters were numbered 1-11, subs 12-15, etc.)

    #10 typically reserved for “the Man”, best player, best scorer, typically played up front center forward or attacking center midfielder, etc.

    I know it’s not only a Brazil thing, because Diego Maradonna in Argentina is historically “THE” #10

    [quote comment=”309379″][quote comment=”309378″][quote comment=”309339″][quote comment=”309310″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    link

    Paul,

    You should do a contest with a blank Mets patch to see who comes up with 1) the funniest, 2) best, and 3) Worse, if there is such a thing.[/quote]
    A contest would have to be done by 3rd graders to see if they could, indeed, come up with something better than this.

    Granted, here’s my attempt… link

    The Vancouver Canucks did such a thing with children in British Columbia. The children were asked to submit designs of what they wanted the new Canucks alternate jerseys to look like.

    Here are the link.[/quote]

    I guess we know who isn’t smarter than a 5th grader

    [quote comment=”309290″][quote comment=”309285″]Wow. What an interesting Seahawks fan helmet.

    I wonder if they made them in plain silver during the Seahawks’ first season when the team didn’t have a logo on their helmet.[/quote]

    The Seahawks always had a logo on their helmet, minus some training camp/scrimmages in ’76. Don’t let the early Topps trading cards fool ya.

    link

    Correct. Topps didn’t start showing helmet logos on their football cards until the mid 80’s I believe.

    I always got a kick out of how they airbrushed out the twirly part of the Rams logo from Rams players.

    [quote comment=”309373″]After both the Colts and Dolphins lost last week, we were assured a pretty brutal Divisional round weekend, uniform-wise. With the clown suits worn by the Eagles, Ravens, Titans, Cardinals and Chargers, we are only saved by the Steelers, Panthers (just barely) and of course the Giants.[/quote]
    I wouldn’t include the Chargers as clown-suit wearers, but I agree with the rest.

    Bowl-wise, I was impressed with the unis for link (better than any other red-based or ultra-recent design), link, link and link. I was revulsed by those for link, link, link and most of all, link.

    Tebow honored Rollen Stewart at last night’s BCS national championship game.

    link|1&axs=0|84218617%2c84218606%2c84218594%2c84218576%2c84218569%2c84218499%2c84218495%2c84218457%2c84218449%2c84218380%2c84218329%2c84218317%2c84218290%2c84218281%2c84218151%2c84218062%2c84218037%2c84217991%2c84217982%2c84217976%2c84217972%2c84217913%2c84217899%2c84217895%2c84217855%2c84217820%2c84217813%2c84217720%2c84217691%2c84217619%2c84217463%2c84217434%2c84217425%2c84217424%2c84217321%2c84217295%2c84217193%2c84217056%2c84217048%2c84217038%2c84217027%2c84217023%2c84216573%2c84216491%2c84216381%2c84216374%2c84216343%2c84216341%2c84216238%2c84216209%2c84216188%2c84216080%2c84216073%2c84216057%2c84216001%2c84215987%2c84215909%2c84215641%2c84215610%2c84214228|0

    … Now that link is a serious front/back stirrup height disparity. Note the repair work on the left pant leg, too. …

    but it’s grrreat !

    Question for Paul & the group. If Mr. Tebow (sp?) should find his way to an NFL roster, will he be able to continue his eye-black messaging?

    [quote comment=”309387″]Question for Paul & the group. If Mr. Tebow (sp?) should find his way to an NFL roster, will he be able to continue his eye-black messaging?[/quote]
    Not unless he would like to make a weekly contribution to the Human Fund or whatever charity the NFL says the violation fines go to these days.

    [quote comment=”309381″][quote comment=”309374″]And let’s not even get into the particular use of numbers in Brasilian league and national soccer–and the way it translates to the premier league.

    Ask a Brasilian who #10 is and what it means. I dare you![/quote]

    Not only a Brazilian thing, but all soccer. I’m fairly certain all international football/soccer once had strict numbering (starters were numbered 1-11, subs 12-15, etc.)

    #10 typically reserved for “the Man”, best player, best scorer, typically played up front center forward or attacking center midfielder, etc.

    I know it’s not only a Brazil thing, because Diego Maradonna in Argentina is historically “THE” #10[/quote]

    In the historic 4-4-2 (England)
    The numbers each game were assigned by the position you played (so you could be a different number each game)

    #1 Keeper
    #2 and #3 Outside Backs
    #5 and #6 Center Backs
    #7 Right Mid
    #4 and #8 Center Mids
    #9 and #10 Forwards
    #11 Left Mid
    #12 Reserve Keeper
    #13-? Reserve Field players

    [quote comment=”309388″][quote comment=”309387″]Question for Paul & the group. If Mr. Tebow (sp?) should find his way to an NFL roster, will he be able to continue his eye-black messaging?[/quote]
    Not unless he would like to make a weekly contribution to the Human Fund or whatever charity the NFL says the violation fines go to these days.[/quote]

    yes…in the show, the shenanigans would stop, either by nfl dictum or an opposing lineman

    /tebow’s call

    [quote comment=”309384″][quote comment=”309373″]After both the Colts and Dolphins lost last week, we were assured a pretty brutal Divisional round weekend, uniform-wise. With the clown suits worn by the Eagles, Ravens, Titans, Cardinals and Chargers, we are only saved by the Steelers, Panthers (just barely) and of course the Giants.[/quote]
    I wouldn’t include the Chargers as clown-suit wearers, but I agree with the rest.

    Bowl-wise, I was impressed with the unis for link (better than any other red-based or ultra-recent design), link, link and link. I was revulsed by those for link, link, link and most of all, link.[/quote]

    I second your opinion of the VaTech, Oregon and Texas unis.

    I normally love the Oregon uni combos but was disappointed by their lack of creativity for the bowl .

    However, I will respectfully disagree with you on a few of your otherchoices.

    I highly dislike the Utah uniforms, especially their use of red and or black chinstraps on scarred unkempts helmets.

    As for Minnesota, I actually liked them, except for white cleats, dark pants, and those ridiculous bicep bands. The yellow pants would have looked great with black cleats.

    I more disliked the Cal unis that those of the U.

    I think the 10 thing started with Pele, and I have also heard that when Ronaldo was captain of the national team, he chose 9 in defference to Pele.

    I don’t know that the Brasil leagues or national team ever assigned #’s by position, but I know there is an ongoing S. American saga over who wears the 10 and why…also, the S.American number fonts consistently rock. I will post some pics.

    Also, I sent Paul that Babe photo yesterday–if you go to the Life/Google archives and search Babe Ruth there are several versions of the photo. I can’t conclusively see if the photographer has one arm or two, but how cool is that?

    Did anyone count the Babe’s stripes?

    [quote comment=”309392″]I think the 10 thing started with Pele, and I have also heard that when Ronaldo was captain of the national team, he chose 9 in defference to Pele.

    I don’t know that the Brasil leagues or national team ever assigned #’s by position, but I know there is an ongoing S. American saga over who wears the 10 and why…also, the S.American number fonts consistently rock. I will post some pics.[/quote]

    As a previous poster wrote, the number of players on the soccer (football) pitch goes back long before Pele. Specific positions on the field were specific numbers. 9 and 10 were ALWAYS starting forwards, and sometimes 11 depending on the formation of the lineup.

    [quote comment=”309378″][quote comment=”309339″][quote comment=”309310″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    link

    Paul,

    You should do a contest with a blank Mets patch to see who comes up with 1) the funniest, 2) best, and 3) Worse, if there is such a thing.[/quote]
    A contest would have to be done by 3rd graders to see if they could, indeed, come up with something better than this.

    Granted, here’s my attempt… link

    See, this could be a good contest…or a way to blow off some frustration.

    I can’t look at that patch with out think it looks like a clothing tag. I mean, I expect to see a size and a price on the other side of it!

    Per the VT radio call-in show this week…

    VT is currently working with Nike on developing something in regards to the uniforms that would be a ‘pleasant surprise’ to the VT fanbase next season.

    I only see 2 ways this can go…
    1. Maroon throwbacks to go with the white ones we wore this year… ditch the ‘designer’ style
    2. White and/or orange helmets to go with the ‘designer’ unis… ditch the throwbacks

    To be honest, I could see either happening. NIKE seems to intent on turning us into Oregon-east, so the helmets are definitely a possibility, but the reaction to the throwbacks was so positive this year, that the maroon throwbacks are also a possibility.

    By mid-summer, we’ll know for sure

    [quote comment=”309392″]I think the 10 thing started with Pele, and I have also heard that when Ronaldo was captain of the national team, he chose 9 in defference to Pele.

    I don’t know that the Brasil leagues or national team ever assigned #’s by position, but I know there is an ongoing S. American saga over who wears the 10 and why…also, the S.American number fonts consistently rock. I will post some pics.[/quote]

    Ronaldo is not a #10. #10 is the playmaker, a support striker. Ronaldo is a center forward, a #9. Also, Ronaldo has never been the captain of Brazil. Cafu was captain for most of his time with the national time in the spotlight.

    also, to rAKe, the numbering system doesn’t origniate in the 4-4-2, but are instead older. They started with the 2-3-5 formation and have been transformed to fit the 4-4-2 by what has happened to the positions.

    [quote comment=”309361″]Brasilian soccer player Frederico Chaves Guedes, who plays for Lyon, goes by Fred. Not too surprising, but compared to nicknames like Socrates and Kaka, Fred looks odd.[/quote]

    How about Brasilian journeyman forward Creedence Clearwater Couto, or simply Creedence, as he is know professionally?
    link,,AAL3283-1538,00.html

    Yup, his real name. His dad was apparently a huge fan.

    Whoevers idea it was to put two stiffs in the announching booth for the BCS title game last nite should be looking for a new job…..I hear Subway is always hiring!
    You would “have thunk it” that they could have come up with a better pair to announce the most important game in the college football season. I’ve heard better play by play and color commentary on the local high school football games. FOX…U SUCK!

    Anyone know if the Citi Field logo Paul showed on his ESPN page will be sold in some patch form?? That would be nice to slap on the jersey myself…

    [quote comment=”309396″]Per the VT radio call-in show this week…

    VT is currently working with Nike on developing something in regards to the uniforms that would be a ‘pleasant surprise’ to the VT fanbase next season.

    I only see 2 ways this can go…
    1. Maroon throwbacks to go with the white ones we wore this year… ditch the ‘designer’ style
    2. White and/or orange helmets to go with the ‘designer’ unis… ditch the throwbacks

    To be honest, I could see either happening. NIKE seems to intent on turning us into Oregon-east, so the helmets are definitely a possibility, but the reaction to the throwbacks was so positive this year, that the maroon throwbacks are also a possibility.

    By mid-summer, we’ll know for sure[/quote]
    Based on what I’ve read here before, I’m all but certain the designer jerseys are dead. (Especially considering they were not worn in a BCS bowl.)
    My completely blind prediction with no inside knowledge whatsoever: The VT logo that currently resides on the neckline of the throwbacks will be featured on new white helmets. And in addition, I’ll predict a maroon pants option with simple throwback stripes. Though I probably wouldn’t be a fan of them, I can see Nike doing that.

    [quote comment=”309368″][quote comment=”309360″][quote comment=”309311″]When I see shoddy/lazy work like that Mets sleeve patch, I highly question the team that works on it and wonder how some people keep their jobs…?[/quote]

    Unfortunately, as long as the client for whom the patch is being made for is happy with the finished product, it doesn’t matter how ugly we think the design is. Don’t blame the designer for the lackluster design; blame the Wilpons for saying “yes, this is exactly what we want!!!”[/quote]

    Believe me, I understand that with my career choice…it’s just frustrating though to see work like this (obviously done by a desginger with lack of professional skills), and when I compare it to others (of the higher end)designers that I know/work with, it just sends a signal to me that a)yes: it’s all about the client
    b)some desingers are hurting others with inferior products
    c)I put more effort into my 5am-6am show graphics and I probably get paid far-far less than those who put together that horrid product….
    d) In the end, it’s who knows you…and who you know…

    sorry for the rant…feel much better now![/quote]

    Then again, it could simply have been a case of Fred Wilpon saying “You know, I think that the Citifield logo on a patch would look great” and his son just nodded his head and agreed with daddy that it was great idea while some poor designer threw his hands up and sighed “sure, guys, if that’s what you want……”

    I’m definitely not a designer, but I can’t slam whoever came up with this design and say that he/she did a half-assed job, because I don’t konw the circumstances, and for for all we know that’s exactly what the Wilpons wanted and they just gave them what they asked for. If the client says “this is what I want” and has his/her mind made up, your opinion as a designer, no matter how brilliant and dynamic it may be, is basically worth squat. That design is so simple and unimaginative that I can’t believe that someone NOT named Wilpon came up with that idea as a sleeve patch.

    Very off topic but I saw the link for the Candiens gear. Soooo I said what the hell Ok so I’m in high school and last night went to my high school’s hockey team against the top team on the west side of the state. We all know How Mr. Paul Lukas hates purple and all black jerseys on team’s whose colors do not include black. well here was a picture from the game link . The team in the White is my high school LHS Lancers and the other team in Black is the only Div. 1 Hockey team in Western Mass. we are like either D2 or D3 but the stated is divded by Western=3 Eastern=1 and Central=2 but Ideally the eastern mass is always better than central which is always better than western in HOCKEY that is. So what I’m getting to is the black team uses the Canadien’s logo which stands for “Cathedral Hockey” supposedly even though every sport uses that logo. but until this year they had purple and white jerseys but rumor has it they switched to black because opposing teams would chant “you wear PURPLE clap clap clapclap clap” thanks for reading. i thought some people on this site would get some humor out of it.

    Wow that Mets patch is plug ugly! It is compounded by the fact that it is way too big! Any chance the Mets are going to ditch the black to make up for this travesy? :-)

    Regarding the one-eyed photographer, does he remind anyone else of von Stauffenberg (Valkyrie)?

    Hulu has a series of shows on college football stadiums called “Fields of Glory”… you can see them here: link

    The reason pitchers can’t wear batting gloves is a protection for batters. With hitters having less then a second to react to a pitch, batting gloves on the glove hand of the pitcher are considered “distracting”.

    For the same reason, you won’t see a pitcher with white sleeves, long or short, underneath their jersey.

    [quote comment=”309265″]Wow…Kauffman Stadium is going to be so beautiful when its completed, not that it wasnt already.

    UGGGGHH why can Reebok just do a plain uniform with team logos!!!![/quote]

    Never been to Royals stadium, but man it looks nice.

    [quote comment=”309403″][quote comment=”309368″][quote comment=”309360″][quote comment=”309311″]When I see shoddy/lazy work like that Mets sleeve patch, I highly question the team that works on it and wonder how some people keep their jobs…?[/quote]

    Unfortunately, as long as the client for whom the patch is being made for is happy with the finished product, it doesn’t matter how ugly we think the design is. Don’t blame the designer for the lackluster design; blame the Wilpons for saying “yes, this is exactly what we want!!!”[/quote]

    Believe me, I understand that with my career choice…it’s just frustrating though to see work like this (obviously done by a desginger with lack of professional skills), and when I compare it to others (of the higher end)designers that I know/work with, it just sends a signal to me that a)yes: it’s all about the client
    b)some desingers are hurting others with inferior products
    c)I put more effort into my 5am-6am show graphics and I probably get paid far-far less than those who put together that horrid product….
    d) In the end, it’s who knows you…and who you know…

    sorry for the rant…feel much better now![/quote]

    Then again, it could simply have been a case of Fred Wilpon saying “You know, I think that the Citifield logo on a patch would look great” and his son just nodded his head and agreed with daddy that it was great idea while some poor designer threw his hands up and sighed “sure, guys, if that’s what you want……”

    I’m definitely not a designer, but I can’t slam whoever came up with this design and say that he/she did a half-assed job, because I don’t konw the circumstances, and for for all we know that’s exactly what the Wilpons wanted and they just gave them what they asked for. If the client says “this is what I want” and has his/her mind made up, your opinion as a designer, no matter how brilliant and dynamic it may be, is basically worth squat. That design is so simple and unimaginative that I can’t believe that someone NOT named Wilpon came up with that idea as a sleeve patch.[/quote]

    My first thought when I saw was that there’s a good chance that, for the their money, it’s what Citi wanted, and the designer was, in fact (no matter what anyone else might contend), one of their people.

    And that, for shame, is the world of sports today.

    (Either that or Omar said, “We’re not paying to design some stinkeen PATCH, you do it.”)

    —Ricko

    New Cub Milton Bradley will wear his usual #21, and at end of this article, he explains that he wears it in tribute of Jackie Robinson (not Sosa!).

    link

    As I said–bring up the soccer # subject and chaos ensues. I’ve never been able to get to the bottom of it and every club/nation seems to have slightly different rules/traditions. I just like hearing all the different stuff that comes out of the wood work.

    Interestingly, the Brasil leagues have taken in recent years to putting sponsorship instead of NOB.

    link

    [quote comment=”309261″]Do you think minor league puckster Robin Big Snake wears BIG SNAKE on his nameplate or just SNAKE? May we suggest MONGO SERPENT?

    link

    He wears BIG SNAKE- he played in Portland for a few years and I went to several games. Very cool.

    Totally out of season, but IT HAPPENS EVERY SPRING, a baseball comeday with Ray Milland, starts on Turner Classic Movies in about 8 minutes (8 pm EST).

    —Ricko

    [quote comment=”309365″][quote comment=”309364″]My first thought when coming here today was:

    “If Bryan was still posting entries, we’d probably see a picture of that OU bandmember with the tear running down her face to lead off the column today.”[/quote]

    is that good or bad?[/quote]

    Your Mileage May Vary. I was a fan of Bryan’s snarkiness.

    [quote comment=”309281″]I want a Cheney Studs shirt now.[/quote]
    I would love one too. But my name is Ben Cheney, so that gives me more reason to want one

    Hey, a shout out! Cool. Almost missed it – I’ve got a newborn at home, so I’m not able to spend as much time here. Thanks for thinking of me.

    I’d love to bid on link, but those guys have to be out of their minds. They’ve had it available on their website link for (at least) several years now with no interest. Now to put it on eBay, at that price, seems odd. I’d think anybody who can spend that kind of money would do some research, and the market value for those capes at auction has already been link, at a link of the price they’re asking.

    I know they’re a business, in business to make money, but exorbitant prices on your website is one thing, the same exorbitant price on eBay is something else. I’ll be very curious to see if it draws any bids.

    I’ve been silently lusting after that cape on their site for the aforementioned several years, but if I was in a position to pay that kind of crazy money for a sideline garment, it’d be link.

    [quote]Hey, a shout out! Cool. Almost missed it – I’ve got a newborn at home, so I’m not able to spend as much time here. Thanks for thinking of me.[/quote]

    hey chance, congrats!

    you gotta post a pic of the little one in a pack onesie!

    [quote comment=”309395″][quote comment=”309378″][quote comment=”309339″][quote comment=”309310″]Today’s ESPN column is up:
    link

    Paul,

    You should do a contest with a blank Mets patch to see who comes up with 1) the funniest, 2) best, and 3) Worse, if there is such a thing.[/quote]
    A contest would have to be done by 3rd graders to see if they could, indeed, come up with something better than this.

    Granted, here’s my attempt… link

    See, this could be a good contest…or a way to blow off some frustration.

    I can’t look at that patch with out think it looks like a clothing tag. I mean, I expect to see a size and a price on the other side of it![/quote]

    i think that’s the best description yet! and it’s so hokey, that you’d expect to find it after a store goes out of business and a liquidation firm goes in and doesn’t spend any money on decent materials…

    [quote comment=”309308″][quote comment=”309301″]Ricko, where might I find the Bears font?

    Perhaps on this Interweb thing?

    Phil, help me out. You are like Typography master![/quote]

    link…oh wait…

    i searched for it for a few minutes, no luck…maybe James (JTH) can help ya out when he checks in…[/quote]
    I haven’t made it through all the comments today, but if you’re still looking for this, I actually can help out by linking to link.

    [quote comment=”309428″]
    I haven’t made it through all the comments today, but if you’re still looking for this, I actually can help out by linking to link.[/quote]
    Uh, yeah… so you need an update on the Hindenburg?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Sorta related to recent posts… my 5-year-old just lost his first tooth today. The Tooth Fairy is giving him $20. Is that really the going rate these days for a first tooth?

    [quote comment=”309421″]Just a small FYI that the Studs still exist, as the Seattle Studs.

    link
    Do they have an anatomically correct mascot?

    I agree, the Citi logo to be sold inside the stadium looks fine. The one on the sleeve, well..you know what it looks like?

    link

    I am surprised the NYY’s didn’t sneak a corporate name in the title. I understand the grand tradition of Yankee Stadium..but they’ve got a heavyweight nut to pay for that place. Even in the bad economy, what if some co. like say, oh, Toyota paid about 20 gazillion to call it “Yankee Stadium @ Toyota Plaza” or something. And if you think about it- the concept isn’t so far-fetched.
    Hank thinks: “Hmmm..twenty gazillion = twenty more CC Sabathias.”

    Regarding the black line across the hockey visor, I believe it is credited to starting with Brian Propp in Philadelphia, for the same reasons noted in this article.

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