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Monday Morning Uni Watch

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: The most important and most underrated change in the passing game over the past 15 years or so is the increasing prominence of gloves.

I usually talk about football gloves in the context of receivers (did you see Ronnie Brown’s TD catch yesterday?), but I was thinking about them over the weekend because of Kurt Warner, who wore gloves on both hands on Saturday. He’s been doing this pretty much all season long, even when warming up. In fact, the only bare-handed shot of him from this season that I’ve been able to find is this one — and as you can see, even in that shot, he’s holding his precious gloves in his left hand.

Warner apparently started going gloved last season (additional 2007 shots here, here, and here). But he went gloveless 2006 and 2005, and before that with the Giants and Rams.

Warner isn’t the only gloved QB out there, but it’s still something of a novelty. When David Carr started wearing gloves in 2007 (white ones on the road, black ones at home), it was such an eyebrow-raiser that he quickly gained a nickname that became the basis for a blog. That was apparently just a one-season thing: Carr had previously worn a glove on his left hand but not on his right, and this season he’s gone bare-handed.

A QB wearing gloves in a snow game is one thing, but wearing them in good weather doesn’t sit well with me, because it fundamentally changes the dynamics of passing. A baseball pitcher isn’t allowed to have anything between his hand the ball; why should a football passer? Am I the only one who thinks this?

Speaking of gloves, several readers noted that Alabama and USC had special glove designs for their respective bowl games. Some of the ’Bama players had houndstooth-patterned gloves (additional views here, here, and here), while USC wore a pattern modeled after Tommy Trojan’s kilt (additional views here and here). But no special gloves for Kurt Warner — yet.

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Membership News: Thanks to a nice little run of recent orders (including Brian Russell’s Baltimore Claws-themed card, shown at right), the Uni Watch membership program is closing in on its 700th enrollee. As with all past century-mark multiples, the 700th member will have his or her card emblazoned with a special seal. My continued thanks to everyone who’s helped make the membership program so successful.

Holiday Raffle Update: Holiday raffle prizes will start mailing out today, and I hope to have all of them out the door by Wednesday-ish, so you raffle winners should watch your mailboxes, OK? OK.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Karlos Dansby lost his helmet and skullcap on a play on Saturday. … Jeremy Brahm reports that the International Cricket Council has unveiled a new centenary logo. … Also from Jeremy: Norway wore an interesting reverse bib design in the FIVB qualifying round. … And in what may qualify as Jeremy’s most obscure contribution yet, the Turkish Volleyball Federation has a new logo. … How has the U.S. military marked the turning of the calendar? By making their uniforms mosquito-proof (thanks, Phil). … Roy Helu of Nebraska had something written on his arm during the Gator Bowl. “Most likely ‘Delight in the Lord,'” says Brian Hansen. “That phrase is from Psalms 37:4, and Helu is a devout Christian.” … The Oregon State marching band uniforms remind David Muir of another kind of uniform. … Under Armour designed special shoes for Utah to wear in the Sugar Bowl. Additional photos here. … The girls’ hoops team at King’s Academy in Woodstock, Georgia, has some funny ideas about socks (with thanks to Kevin Marks). … The Chargers wore their powder blue alts on Saturday, which prompted a good question from Tim Fry: Aside from Niners in 1994-95, has any other NFL team ever worn alts or throwbacks during the postseason? I can’t think of any other examples. Anyone..?

 

188 comments to Monday Morning Uni Watch

  • Robert in Dallas | January 5, 2009 at 8:43 am |

    I am not a fan of the gloves on any qb, rb or wr. We keep seeing all of these phenomenal one-handed catches these days, right? Are they really all that great? Just shove a tacky mitt in the direction of the ball and reel it in. Why is stickum banned, yet gloves are permissible?

  • Kevin G. | January 5, 2009 at 8:46 am |

    The first time I remember someone wearing gloves in a warm or controlled climate was Jim McMahon in Super Bowl XX. He had worn them during the cold weather playoff games in Chicago and kept them for the Super Bowl.

  • Hardi Har Har Har | January 5, 2009 at 8:48 am |

    Gators are wearing the aforementioned plastic helmet protectors at their BCS practices.

  • Jeremy Brahm | January 5, 2009 at 8:56 am |

    Jim McMahon picture from Super Bowl XX

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

  • Bruce | January 5, 2009 at 8:58 am |

    I belive the 95-96 Chargers wore their alts in the postseason (Riding the retro wave all the way to thumping in the super bowl)

  • Paul Lukas | January 5, 2009 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”308771″]The first time I remember someone wearing gloves in a warm or controlled climate was Jim McMahon in Super Bowl XX. He had worn them during the cold weather playoff games in Chicago and kept them for the Super Bowl.[/quote]

    Wow — if I had known that, I definitely would have included it in today’s entry. But that’s the only Super Bowl since 1971 that I didn’t watch (a family crisis intervened). I honestly didn’t realize that McMahon wore gloves in that game!

  • Robert in Dallas | January 5, 2009 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”308773″]Jim McMahon picture from Super Bowl XX

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Seeing that Jim McMahon photo reminds me of the emergence of the flak jacket as a means to protect a players’ ribs. The first such mention of one was in 1979 or so.

    A future topic might be the evolution of the flak jacket. Do players still wear them? If so, they certainly are not as obtrusive in appearance as the early ones.

  • Robert in Dallas | January 5, 2009 at 9:00 am |

    Make that player’s, not players’. Stupid typos.

  • Ricko | January 5, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment=”308770″]I am not a fan of the gloves on any qb, rb or wr. We keep seeing all of these phenomenal one-handed catches these days, right? Are they really all that great? Just shove a tacky mitt in the direction of the ball and reel it in. Why is stickum banned, yet gloves are permissible?[/quote]

    Always wondered about that, too. Cuz the gloves do help. As did stickum (I used it in touch football leagues back in the day), gloves stop the ball from spinning, sort of. And that effectively makes your hands bigger. Or the ball smaller. You know what I mean. LOL.

    For a couple years I got stuck playing QB, and used stickum then, too. And I still throw now wearing tacky gloves. For the same reason…effectively makes my hands bigger.

    As to QBs wearing them…if they’re legal for receivers, no reason shouldn’t be for QBs.

    Two relative stories about that. One receiver, back when they were talking about outlawing stickum, said, “No problem, I’ll just eat a candy bar and lick my fingers.” At least one former Viking punter used to do exactly that.

    Other story: In 1974 WFL, on a monsoon-style night, WR Phil Eber of the Shreveport Steamer was catching everything in sight. No one could believe how he could do that under such conditions. Turns out he had taped thumbtacks to his fingertips and thumbs.

    Guess he was the Wolverine (X-Men ref.; not Michigan) of WR.

    —Ricko

  • WSCopic | January 5, 2009 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”308776″][quote comment=”308773″]Jim McMahon picture from Super Bowl XX

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Seeing that Jim McMahon photo reminds me of the emergence of the flak jacket as a means to protect a players’ ribs. The first such mention of one was in 1979 or so.

    A future topic might be the evolution of the flak jacket. Do players still wear them? If so, they certainly are not as obtrusive in appearance as the early ones.[/quote]

    Not only do most QBs wear them these days, but you see a few receivers with them on now and again, as well. Though, the receiver version seems to be more about the lower back / kidney area.

    Can’t think of many QBs I have seen NOT wearing one as of late. I think they are much thinner than they were originally.

  • Ricko | January 5, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”308779″][quote comment=”308776″][quote comment=”308773″]Jim McMahon picture from Super Bowl XX

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Seeing that Jim McMahon photo reminds me of the emergence of the flak jacket as a means to protect a players’ ribs. The first such mention of one was in 1979 or so.

    A future topic might be the evolution of the flak jacket. Do players still wear them? If so, they certainly are not as obtrusive in appearance as the early ones.[/quote]

    Not only do most QBs wear them these days, but you see a few receivers with them on now and again, as well. Though, the receiver version seems to be more about the lower back / kidney area.

    Can’t think of many QBs I have seen NOT wearing one as of late. I think they are much thinner than they were originally.[/quote]

    I think the first flak jacket was made for Dan Pastorini of the Houston Oilers.

  • Vince M. | January 5, 2009 at 9:10 am |

    Chiefs wore white-on-white alts in the 2006 playoffs for the death of lamar hunt

    here

  • Peter | January 5, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment=”308781″]Chiefs wore white-on-white alts in the 2006 playoffs for the death of lamar hunt

    Since the Chiefs were the road team, weren’t they supposed to wear white anyways?

  • DW95MVP | January 5, 2009 at 9:14 am |

    LI Phil,

    Hamilton College?! Wow.

    ’08 grad and avid Uni Watch reader

  • Tim | January 5, 2009 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”308782″][quote comment=”308781″]Chiefs wore white-on-white alts in the 2006 playoffs for the death of lamar hunt

    Since the Chiefs were the road team, weren’t they supposed to wear white anyways?[/quote]

    But at the time (and today) the official road uniform was white tops – red pants. They had retired the all-white look years before.

  • LI Phil | January 5, 2009 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”308783″]LI Phil,

    Hamilton College?! Wow.

    ’08 grad and avid Uni Watch reader[/quote]

    do they still have “go you conts!” in sage (do they still even have sage rink? guy hebert played there–class behind me)

    buff and blue — not such great colors for unis, eh?

  • Tim | January 5, 2009 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”308784″]Chiefs wore white-on-white alts in the 2006 playoffs for the death of lamar hunt

    Since the Chiefs were the road team, weren’t they supposed to wear white anyways?[/quote]

    But at the time (and today) the official road uniform was white tops – red pants. They had retired the all-white look years before.

  • Beardface | January 5, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    That Oregon State Marching Band uniform reminds me more of this guy than the Star Trek crew…

  • Hott Rodd | January 5, 2009 at 9:25 am |

    I remember reading somewhere that Warner started wearing the gloves in ’07 after a bad weather game where he felt that he had a much better feel for the ball while wearing them. Wearing the gloves led to a marked decrease in fumbles, as he was able to better secure the ball.

  • Hott Rodd | January 5, 2009 at 9:32 am |

    Also, the gloves have been credited a the major factor in Warner’s resurgence. Well that and Leinart being a major league stiff.

    Yay hometown Cards.

    what a rotten day for a Cowboys fan in Phoenix..

  • u2-horn | January 5, 2009 at 9:32 am |

    The Cowboys wore alts against the throughout the 1994 playoffs

    http://static.nfl.co...

  • Brian R. | January 5, 2009 at 9:33 am |

    Thanks for showing the Claws membership card. They were to be called the “Hustlers” but the league made them change their name so they opted for the more Maryland friendly, “Claws” after the Maryland Blue Crab.

    In any event, they only played three games, one against the Philadelphia 76ers of the NBA, before having to fold due to financial problems.

    The Bullets became the prominent basketball team here in the Baltimore and ever since they moved down the pike to DC, Baltimore has been asking for a basketball team; we love our Basketball too!

  • DW95MVP | January 5, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    Hebert actually has his number retired at Sage.

    A lot of our cheers are against the safety schools that come to play there.

  • =bg= | January 5, 2009 at 9:35 am |

    Didn’t Jerry unveil the 1990’s original Apex Double Star jerseys for the post-season? And completely caught the league unaware? (Imagine that.) Or was it for Thanksgiving.

  • Rick | January 5, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    The Oregon State Marching Band uniforms are based off of the uniforms of the Glassmen Drum and Bugle Corps. http://www.glassmen....

  • u2-horn | January 5, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    Here’s Tony Romo’s flak jacket…I think I remember Paul commenting on the fact that you can easily read the “Rawlings” through the uniform both in pictures and on TV.

    http://www.tonyromoo...(1).jpg

  • u2-horn | January 5, 2009 at 9:43 am |

    oops, not a firendly img location here’s another shot of Romo

    http://www.dallasnew...

  • u2-horn | January 5, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    F me…

    last shot

    http://seattletimes....

  • Mike Engle | January 5, 2009 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”308794″]The Oregon State Marching Band uniforms are based off of the uniforms of the Glassmen Drum and Bugle Corps.

    http://www.glassmen....
    Anybody else find it bizarre that the Oregon State band uniforms have a three stripe motif? I would think that anything that (a) should be affiliated with Nike, but (b) carries overtones of Adidas would be forbidden.

  • Scott | January 5, 2009 at 9:51 am |

    The glove on a pitcher in baseball leads to a decided advantage … against the hitter.

    The glove on a QB in football doesn’t provide any extra advantage … in direct connection with the opponent.

    It’s really that simple. Take into account football is played in typically poor weather months, and baseball is played in reasonable weather months … that covers it.

    The glove’s relationship to the banning of Stickum is probably unfounded. (Stickum probably didn’t pony up enough cash to be a sponsor.) Or, seriously, I get the feeling that it was banned not because it provided an unfair advantage, but because the Raiders looked a mess:

    http://sports.espn.g...

    It was the dawn of the NFL fashion police that did in Stickum. The photo doesn’t show it, but Tom Flores was quoted in his book that Hayes, among others, were always covered in the stuff.

  • Seth H | January 5, 2009 at 9:53 am |

    Going back to a conversation last week, on Saturday night Harvard hockey away uniforms had the “Reebok” wordmark on the back of the right pants leg. (Logo still on the rear of the collar.) So we can probably expect that this is where it will show up on NHL unis next year.

    At least it was better than the Princeton “Nikes” who had a swoosh on the chest, on the pants and on both knees.

  • Mark K | January 5, 2009 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”308785″][quote comment=”308783″]LI Phil,

    Hamilton College?! Wow.

    ’08 grad and avid Uni Watch reader[/quote]

    do they still have “go you conts!” in sage (do they still even have sage rink? guy hebert played there–class behind me)

    buff and blue — not such great colors for unis, eh?[/quote]

    Hamilton College is a great opportunity for a Uni topic as their chain crew for the football games has a tradition (since the 70s, I believe) of dressing up “in costume” while working the chains.

    It would be interesting to hear how this got started and how they come up with their costume ideas- which change every game.

  • Paul Lukas | January 5, 2009 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”308801″]Hamilton College is a great opportunity for a Uni topic as their chain crew for the football games has a tradition (since the 70s, I believe) of dressing up “in costume” while working the chains.[/quote]

    Details, please.

  • xyz | January 5, 2009 at 10:08 am |

    I also remember the flak jacket being specifically designed for Houston Oiler Dan Pastorini. I think I remember the pregame show NFL Today (Irv Cross, Jane Kennedy, etc.) showing them testing it out by using a baseball bat on the flak jacket while one of the CBS hosts modeled it. Also, I agree that the gloves are an advantage similar to stickum (but less messy).The old school gloves were just basic baseball batting gloves (sarnac, rawlings, etc.). Harold Carmichael had the forest green ones, Lynn Swan and John Stallworth had black. Wish I could find some of those vintage ones

  • jokstrap | January 5, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”308772″]Gators are wearing the aforementioned plastic helmet protectors at their BCS practices.[/quote]

    Check out the practice pants/shorts Tebow is wearing.

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

  • Dustin | January 5, 2009 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”308793″]Didn’t Jerry unveil the 1990’s original Apex Double Star jerseys for the post-season? And completely caught the league unaware? (Imagine that.) Or was it for Thanksgiving.[/quote]

    No, I believe they wore those most of the season (the 75th anniversary) as an homage to the other double-star jerseys from the past. I can’t remember if they actually wore the “exact” throwback that year for those games, though.

  • Johnny O | January 5, 2009 at 10:20 am |

    B. Favre never wore gloves in his career. (At least I can’t think of a time or instance) Which is kind of a surprise to me since he played in Green Bay. Even last year in the two playoff games he went glove-less.

    Vs. Seattle:
    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Vs. Giants:
    http://images.busine...

  • Teebz | January 5, 2009 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”308800″]Going back to a conversation last week, on Saturday night Harvard hockey away uniforms had the “Reebok” wordmark on the back of the right pants leg. (Logo still on the rear of the collar.) So we can probably expect that this is where it will show up on NHL unis next year.

    At least it was better than the Princeton “Nikes” who had a swoosh on the chest, on the pants and on both knees.[/quote]

    Except that Buffalo has been wearing it with their new alternates on the front of the left leg. I believe Harvard may have had them on backwards.

    Brand recognition doesn’t happen if you can’t see the brand.

  • Jim MI | January 5, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”308802″][quote comment=”308801″]Hamilton College is a great opportunity for a Uni topic as their chain crew for the football games has a tradition (since the 70s, I believe) of dressing up “in costume” while working the chains.[/quote]

    Details, please.[/quote]

    Please tell me they dress like this…

    http://www.nst.com.m...

    That would be awesome

  • LI Phil | January 5, 2009 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”308802″][quote comment=”308801″]Hamilton College is a great opportunity for a Uni topic as their chain crew for the football games has a tradition (since the 70s, I believe) of dressing up “in costume” while working the chains.[/quote]

    Details, please.[/quote]

    i’ll try to dig something up…i do remember this…couple guys in my frat got to work the chains one saturday (was actually quite the honor)…and their ‘costume’ was pretty tame…minutemen (continentals), but i remember clowns, ben franklin & alexander hamilton, i think british redcoats once…man…

    that was 20+ years ago…totally forgot about it until it was just mentioned

  • dwight | January 5, 2009 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”308804″][quote comment=”308772″]Gators are wearing the aforementioned plastic helmet protectors at their BCS practices.[/quote]

    Check out the practice pants/shorts Tebow is wearing.

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

    Not much shorter than some d-backs and receivers wear now!

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 10:40 am |

    Regarding the pic of Roy Helu from Nebraska:

    He is wearing a Strap-Lok Chin strap connector on his Schutt DNA.

    I have noticed that the large majority of Strap-Lok wearers come from teams in the Southwest, Big 12 teams as well as the Dallas Cowboys, and now Nebraska.

    Is the manufacturer located in that area?

    Oklahoma:

    http://theredzonerep...

    Colorado:

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Cowboys:

    http://www.bcsfrenzy...

    Texas Tech:

    http://www.freewebs....

  • Leo | January 5, 2009 at 10:42 am |

    Paul,

    Would it be possible to post what each raffle winner got? Just curious.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 10:44 am |

    Reagarding my last post, It sounded as if I left Nebraska out of the Big 12. My syntax was incorrect, sorry.

    It seems as if Florida WILL be given exclusive Nike Flyposite cleats for the BCS game as well:

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

  • Broadway Connie | January 5, 2009 at 10:45 am |

    “….Jeremy Brahm reports that the International Cricket Council has unveiled a new centenary logo. … Also from Jeremy: Norway wore an interesting reverse bib design in the FIVB qualifying round. … And in what may qualify as Jeremy’s most obscure contribution yet, the Turkish Volleyball Federation has a new logo. …”

    Jeremy’s greatness cannot be hyperbolized. I love that relentless cosmopolitanism.

  • JTH | January 5, 2009 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”308810″][quote comment=”308804″][quote comment=”308772″]Gators are wearing the aforementioned plastic helmet protectors at their BCS practices.[/quote]
    Check out the practice pants/shorts Tebow is wearing.

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

    Not much shorter than some d-backs and receivers wear now![/quote]
    There is so much wrong with that ensemble that I don’t think there’s anything right with it.

    The orange helmet/red jersey combo looks godawful. Why not use orange as the no-contact jersey color? Although I guess it could be worse — the shorts could be blue.

  • Al Gruwell | January 5, 2009 at 10:48 am |

    I have to agree with Scott in post #30. No advantage for a qb to wear gloves and the game is played in all kinds of weather.
    A pitcher would have a decided advantage using a glove on his pitching hand.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”308780″][quote comment=”308779″][quote comment=”308776″][quote comment=”308773″]Jim McMahon picture from Super Bowl XX

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Seeing that Jim McMahon photo reminds me of the emergence of the flak jacket as a means to protect a players’ ribs. The first such mention of one was in 1979 or so.

    A future topic might be the evolution of the flak jacket. Do players still wear them? If so, they certainly are not as obtrusive in appearance as the early ones.[/quote]

    Not only do most QBs wear them these days, but you see a few receivers with them on now and again, as well. Though, the receiver version seems to be more about the lower back / kidney area.

    Can’t think of many QBs I have seen NOT wearing one as of late. I think they are much thinner than they were originally.[/quote]

    I think the first flak jacket was made for Dan Pastorini of the Houston Oilers.[/quote]

    The actual Flak jacket, that Romo and McMahon were pictured wearing have been replace by these:

    McDavid
    http://www.sportsdep...

    Zoombang:
    http://www.zoombang....

    Here’s some more:

    http://www.sportsdep...

  • Jeff P | January 5, 2009 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”308807″][quote comment=”308800″]Going back to a conversation last week, on Saturday night Harvard hockey away uniforms had the “Reebok” wordmark on the back of the right pants leg. (Logo still on the rear of the collar.) So we can probably expect that this is where it will show up on NHL unis next year.

    At least it was better than the Princeton “Nikes” who had a swoosh on the chest, on the pants and on both knees.[/quote]

    Except that Buffalo has been wearing it with their new alternates on the front of the left leg. I believe Harvard may have had them on backwards.

    Brand recognition doesn’t happen if you can’t see the brand.[/quote]

    It would be very difficult to put hockey pants on backwards- the ad placements rules may be different. But that Reebok branding is the pants branding, not the overall uniform branding. Any manufacturer who has paid a licensing fee for that piece of equipment can have a logo displayed on equipment they make- So on pants, you see Reebok, nike Bauer, Easton, CCM and Tackla logos depending on who made the pant. In NCAA, teams get all their gear from one company, so you get uniform branding.

    Back to the original point, Harvard may have logos on the front too, NHL teams have an NHL sheild in that back of the leg spot.

    But it’s very, very difficult to put something like this on backwards.

  • jokstrap | January 5, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”308811″]Regarding the pic of Roy Helu from Nebraska:

    He is wearing a Strap-Lok Chin strap connector on his Schutt DNA.

    I have noticed that the large majority of Strap-Lok wearers come from teams in the Southwest, Big 12 teams as well as the Dallas Cowboys, and now Nebraska.

    Is the manufacturer located in that area?

    Oklahoma:

    http://theredzonerep...

    Colorado:

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Cowboys:

    http://www.bcsfrenzy...

    Texas Tech:

    http://www.freewebs....

    They are made by Riddell.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”308811″]Regarding the pic of Roy Helu from Nebraska:

    He is wearing a Strap-Lok Chin strap connector on his Schutt DNA.

    I have noticed that the large majority of Strap-Lok wearers come from teams in the Southwest, Big 12 teams as well as the Dallas Cowboys, and now Nebraska.

    Is the manufacturer located in that area?

    Oklahoma:

    http://theredzonerep...

    Colorado:

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Cowboys:

    http://www.bcsfrenzy...

    Texas Tech:

    http://www.freewebs....

    Broncos, too:

    http://cache.daylife...

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    Thanks, Joc!

    Here they are:

    http://www.riddell1....

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | January 5, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    On the question of throwbacks in the post-season: I can’t provide any examples from the NFL, which I do not follow. But, in the NBA, the Nets wore their ABA throwbacks in the 2003 Finals, against fellow ex-ABA club San Antonio (who, sadly, wore their regular unis).

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    The Nets had worn these unis a few times during that season; but I don’t think they used them during the playoffs, until the finals.

  • LI Phil | January 5, 2009 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”308818″]But it’s very, very difficult to put something like this on backwards.[/quote]

    weren’t those just breezers (and not the actual pant) in teebz’ pic? i think one might be able to put breezers on backwards

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”308821″]Thanks, Joc!

    Here they are:

    http://www.riddell1....

    Their offices are still in Illinois.

    Here is the history of Riddell footwear, whom invented removable cleats:

    http://www.riddellfo...

  • Beardface | January 5, 2009 at 11:09 am |

    I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Lets look at Virginia Tech and Florida.

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Virginia Tech is a smashmouth team who will pound you to submission in the trenches. Their goal is to wear you out by dominating the line of scrimmage and pounding the ball down your throat on the ground. They’re not going to win any style points on offense, as they will generally do just enough to win. Thus, their helmets look beat to shit every game (note the OL who had 2 giant chips on the hemlet the last half of the season) with scratched and chips.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.

  • Kek | January 5, 2009 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”308817″][quote comment=”308780″][quote comment=”308779″][quote comment=”308776″][quote comment=”308773″]Jim McMahon picture from Super Bowl XX

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Seeing that Jim McMahon photo reminds me of the emergence of the flak jacket as a means to protect a players’ ribs. The first such mention of one was in 1979 or so.

    A future topic might be the evolution of the flak jacket. Do players still wear them? If so, they certainly are not as obtrusive in appearance as the early ones.[/quote]

    Not only do most QBs wear them these days, but you see a few receivers with them on now and again, as well. Though, the receiver version seems to be more about the lower back / kidney area.

    Can’t think of many QBs I have seen NOT wearing one as of late. I think they are much thinner than they were originally.[/quote]

    I think the first flak jacket was made for Dan Pastorini of the Houston Oilers.[/quote]

    The actual Flak jacket, that Romo and McMahon were pictured wearing have been replace by these:

    McDavid
    http://www.sportsdep...

    Zoombang:
    http://www.zoombang....

    Here’s some more:

    http://www.sportsdep...

    Those Douglas rib protectors, what makes them fit snug around the waist? I ask because that equipment wasn’t something we were offered when I was playing.

    I’ve seen players in the NFL wearing them. Under the white jerseys it’s especially visable. It appears tight and snug and I know it’s just not the fact that the jersey is tight and tucked in, it just seems secure.

    Contrast that to what you see in high school and college where that flap is moving up and down. That seems like it would be so uncomfortable.

    There’s a local high school near me that using their helmet decal and additional dresses the back of these protectors.

  • Jordan | January 5, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    Speaking of gloves.. I’ve noticed several times this season and last that players in the NCAA are pushing it with colors. I remember going to UAB games and seeing the players wearing Gray/White gloves, and I’m not sure on the rule, but the two tone gray i know is in the rulebook.

    Here’s a few coloured gloves from the season..

    Brandon Spikes

    Clemson’s Custom Gloves

    Oregon’s Custom pattern

    The Clemson gloves COULD have been coloured by the players.. but I’m not sure. Also note that each team with the pattern gloves has their team colour on the strap.. Are Nike and Adidas finding ways around the gray glove rule?

  • BJ | January 5, 2009 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”308815″][quote comment=”308810″][quote comment=”308804″][quote comment=”308772″]Gators are wearing the aforementioned plastic helmet protectors at their BCS practices.[/quote]
    Check out the practice pants/shorts Tebow is wearing.

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

    Not much shorter than some d-backs and receivers wear now![/quote]
    There is so much wrong with that ensemble that I don’t think there’s anything right with it.

    The orange helmet/red jersey combo looks godawful. Why not use orange as the no-contact jersey color? Although I guess it could be worse — the shorts could be blue.[/quote]

    It’s cool though, normally all Gators wear jorts when they practice….or go out…..or do anything.

    http://acctrash.file...

  • Duck | January 5, 2009 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”308825″]I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Lets look at Virginia Tech and Florida.

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Virginia Tech is a smashmouth team who will pound you to submission in the trenches. Their goal is to wear you out by dominating the line of scrimmage and pounding the ball down your throat on the ground. They’re not going to win any style points on offense, as they will generally do just enough to win. Thus, their helmets look beat to shit every game (note the OL who had 2 giant chips on the hemlet the last half of the season) with scratched and chips.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.[/quote]

    Or, it’s because Florida has a much more anal equipment manager.

  • Ricko | January 5, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    Anyone know who’s wearing white in Texas-Ohio State game?

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”308826″][quote comment=”308817″][quote comment=”308780″][quote comment=”308779″][quote comment=”308776″][quote comment=”308773″]Jim McMahon picture from Super Bowl XX

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Seeing that Jim McMahon photo reminds me of the emergence of the flak jacket as a means to protect a players’ ribs. The first such mention of one was in 1979 or so.

    A future topic might be the evolution of the flak jacket. Do players still wear them? If so, they certainly are not as obtrusive in appearance as the early ones.[/quote]

    Not only do most QBs wear them these days, but you see a few receivers with them on now and again, as well. Though, the receiver version seems to be more about the lower back / kidney area.

    Can’t think of many QBs I have seen NOT wearing one as of late. I think they are much thinner than they were originally.[/quote]

    I think the first flak jacket was made for Dan Pastorini of the Houston Oilers.[/quote]

    The actual Flak jacket, that Romo and McMahon were pictured wearing have been replace by these:

    McDavid
    http://www.sportsdep...

    Zoombang:
    http://www.zoombang....

    Here’s some more:

    http://www.sportsdep...

    Those Douglas rib protectors, what makes them fit snug around the waist? I ask because that equipment wasn’t something we were offered when I was playing.

    I’ve seen players in the NFL wearing them. Under the white jerseys it’s especially visable. It appears tight and snug and I know it’s just not the fact that the jersey is tight and tucked in, it just seems secure.

    Contrast that to what you see in high school and college where that flap is moving up and down. That seems like it would be so uncomfortable.

    There’s a local high school near me that using their helmet decal and additional dresses the back of these protectors.[/quote]

    Earlier in the season, Arizona State players were placing their additional Sparky decals on their Lumbar pads. Sone observant UWers posted pics.

    I was checking out pics from the Eagles/Vikings game last night and I thought #46 looked wierd:

    http://cache2.asset-...

    No gloves, no tape…Nothing!

    I also found a pic of the Vikings Tahi, in his Schutt. He is behind #29, Chester Taylor:

    http://cache2.asset-...

    Foy you Vikings Purists, wouldn’t you love to see this as their regular jersey?

    http://cache1.asset-...

    Ferdinand, the pic on post #53 is great for many reasons:

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    1. Tim Duncan was still with Nike.
    2. K-Mart was still with the Nets, and unfortunately Reebok.
    3. Jason Kidd, behind and to Duncan’s right is wearing my favorite performance basketball shoes of all time, the Nike Shox BB4:

    http://www.kicksolog...

    http://upload.wikime...

  • Jeremy Brahm | January 5, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    Broadway Connie, thanks for the comment.

    Sometimes, I’m looking at something else and then just comes up and says here look at this.

    I’m usually looking at stuff from Japan, but have developed a knack for other international sports. I played volleyball in high school, so it is a personal favorite and have been watching more soccer over the last few years.

    Actually, here is the best picture I could find for the old Turkish Volleyball Federation logo.
    http://i12.ebayimg.c...

    The ICC logo added the gold band around it and their new phrase “Catch the Spirit”.

    I’ve actually seen the reverse bib last year, but when it is in black on blue, it isn’t easy to see. But this one from Norway was easy to see.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | January 5, 2009 at 11:31 am |

    If a QB wants to wear gloves, let him. Most aren’t comfortable wearing them anyways.

    Those patterned Nike gloves are freaking sweet! I just wish they came in colors that their own uniforms. Houndstooth is awesome!

  • LI Phil | January 5, 2009 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”308828″]It’s cool though, normally all Gators wear jorts when they practice….or go out…..or do anything.

    http://acctrash.file...

    indeed ;)

  • Stuby | January 5, 2009 at 11:33 am |

    Ben Roethlisberger has been known to wear gloves during a game.

    Sometimes Michael Jackson style:
    http://www.sportsnet...

    Sometimes on both hands:
    http://www.ffspiral....

    Seems like it would be more difficult to switch back and forth than to wear gloves all the time like Warner does.

  • Bob A | January 5, 2009 at 11:34 am |

    Some info on Pastorini’s flak jacket is on this page. I recall quite a few tv sportscast features on the thing back then.

  • Stuby | January 5, 2009 at 11:35 am |

    Sorry, Big Ben with two gloves:
    http://assets.espn.g...

  • Bob A | January 5, 2009 at 11:39 am |

    More info on Byron Donziz who came up with the Pastorini flak jacket and some of his other inventions. He sued Reebok (and won) over some sort of shoe inflation technology. Interesting guy.

  • Joe D | January 5, 2009 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”308822″]On the question of throwbacks in the post-season: I can’t provide any examples from the NFL, which I do not follow. But, in the NBA, the Nets wore their ABA throwbacks in the 2003 Finals, against fellow ex-ABA club San Antonio (who, sadly, wore their regular unis).

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    The Nets had worn these unis a few times during that season; but I don’t think they used them during the playoffs, until the finals.[/quote]

    As long as we’re getting into other sports, I thought when the Rangers first debuted their Statue of Liberty alts, they were undefeated in the regular season, then when they were struggling in the playoffs, they wore them despite being fined by the NHL for it. I could be wrong, but if you remember the same thing let me know.

  • Mike Engle | January 5, 2009 at 11:44 am |

    Danny Wuerffel never wore gloves quarterbacking U of Florida, and apparently not with the Saints (memory’s not that good, had to look that one up), but I do remember he always wore a glove on his throwing hand while with the Redskins.
    Apparently, Wuerffel never had large enough hands to throw a Tagliabue-branded football, unaccompanied.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”308827″]Speaking of gloves.. I’ve noticed several times this season and last that players in the NCAA are pushing it with colors. I remember going to UAB games and seeing the players wearing Gray/White gloves, and I’m not sure on the rule, but the two tone gray i know is in the rulebook.

    Here’s a few coloured gloves from the season..

    Brandon Spikes

    Clemson’s Custom Gloves

    Oregon’s Custom pattern

    The Clemson gloves COULD have been coloured by the players.. but I’m not sure. Also note that each team with the pattern gloves has their team colour on the strap.. Are Nike and Adidas finding ways around the gray glove rule?[/quote]

    The gloves worn by Spikes are iffy. However those worn by Oregon and Clemson are o.k..

    Since the rule’s inception, Nike has done this for their elite teams.

    Michigan:

    http://media.college...

    Alabama 2002:

    http://media.college...

  • Joe D | January 5, 2009 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”308774″]I belive the 95-96 Chargers wore their alts in the postseason (Riding the retro wave all the way to thumping in the super bowl)[/quote]

    The 94-95 Chargers were the ones that went to the Super Bowl in the 75th anniversary throwback season. They didn’t wear them in the Super Bowl and as a Steeler fan, I have vivid (and painful) memories of the AFC championship game that year and they didn’t wear alts then. I don’t know what they wore in the divisional round.

    http://www.steelersg...

  • Scott | January 5, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    Holy crap! I found Paul’s archnemesis!!

    http://www.cozycreat...

  • Beardface | January 5, 2009 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”308829″][quote comment=”308825″]I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Lets look at Virginia Tech and Florida.

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Virginia Tech is a smashmouth team who will pound you to submission in the trenches. Their goal is to wear you out by dominating the line of scrimmage and pounding the ball down your throat on the ground. They’re not going to win any style points on offense, as they will generally do just enough to win. Thus, their helmets look beat to shit every game (note the OL who had 2 giant chips on the hemlet the last half of the season) with scratched and chips.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.[/quote]

    Or, it’s because Florida has a much more anal equipment manager.[/quote]
    It would be interesting to see if these 2 programs are the extremes, or if this is a trend throughout college football.

    If there ever was a place where someone would find out, its here

  • Mike Engle | January 5, 2009 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”308839″][quote comment=”308822″]On the question of throwbacks in the post-season: I can’t provide any examples from the NFL, which I do not follow. But, in the NBA, the Nets wore their ABA throwbacks in the 2003 Finals, against fellow ex-ABA club San Antonio (who, sadly, wore their regular unis).

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    The Nets had worn these unis a few times during that season; but I don’t think they used them during the playoffs, until the finals.[/quote]

    As long as we’re getting into other sports, I thought when the Rangers first debuted their Statue of Liberty alts, they were undefeated in the regular season, then when they were struggling in the playoffs, they wore them despite being fined by the NHL for it. I could be wrong, but if you remember the same thing let me know.[/quote]
    I still don’t understand the NBA policy on this. I thought teams could use any particular colored jersey as the “official road playoff jersey,” to be used when white is not an option. (This would be supported by the fact that in LeBron’s run to the finals, the red wine jerseys were never seen. The Cavs wore exclusively the white set or the blue set during those playoffs. And on that note, I think the Heat mothballed the black sets during their finals run with Shaq and D-Wade. White or red for them at that time.)
    This theory, however, crumbles considering the Celtics last season. They definitely wore all three sets throughout the playoffs. I remember thinking to myself, “Wow, the Celtics must be trying really hard to market the black/green jerseys as the playoff jerseys, but it’s as if the uni gods are telling the Celtics they shouldn’t have black in their jerseys.”

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 11:57 am |

    More glove shenanigans:

    Cal:

    http://www.maxwaugh....

    USC:

    http://www.maxwaugh....

  • u2-horn | January 5, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”308830″]Anyone know who’s wearing white in Texas-Ohio State game?[/quote]

    Should be tOSU…Texas is the home team.

  • Jordan Sogn | January 5, 2009 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”308844″][quote comment=”308829″][quote comment=”308825″]I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Lets look at Virginia Tech and Florida.

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Virginia Tech is a smashmouth team who will pound you to submission in the trenches. Their goal is to wear you out by dominating the line of scrimmage and pounding the ball down your throat on the ground. They’re not going to win any style points on offense, as they will generally do just enough to win. Thus, their helmets look beat to shit every game (note the OL who had 2 giant chips on the hemlet the last half of the season) with scratched and chips.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.[/quote]

    Or, it’s because Florida has a much more anal equipment manager.[/quote]
    It would be interesting to see if these 2 programs are the extremes, or if this is a trend throughout college football.

    If there ever was a place where someone would find out, its here[/quote]

    OU uses two different helmets (one set for games & one practices) & I assumed most schools would do the same. I do know that the Sooners do not use titanium facemasks (as they do on game days) on the practice gear as there was a nice preseason video on soonersports.com that took you inside the prep for the football season.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”308844″][quote comment=”308829″][quote comment=”308825″]I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Lets look at Virginia Tech and Florida.

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Virginia Tech is a smashmouth team who will pound you to submission in the trenches. Their goal is to wear you out by dominating the line of scrimmage and pounding the ball down your throat on the ground. They’re not going to win any style points on offense, as they will generally do just enough to win. Thus, their helmets look beat to shit every game (note the OL who had 2 giant chips on the hemlet the last half of the season) with scratched and chips.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.[/quote]

    Or, it’s because Florida has a much more anal equipment manager.[/quote]
    It would be interesting to see if these 2 programs are the extremes, or if this is a trend throughout college football.

    If there ever was a place where someone would find out, its here[/quote]

    Looking at the BCS top 25,including those who recieved votes, there are only a handful of teams whose helmets always bear “battle scars”:

    1. USC
    2. Utah
    3. Texas Tech
    4. Cincinatti
    5. Oregon State
    5. Rutgers

    I think that the main reason is shell color. USC, no matter whether it’s QB Mark Canchez or Beast LB Brian Cushing, their helmets are always beat up.

    the questions we need to wonder about are:

    1. Do they have the money to furnish the players with game/practice helmets?

    2. Are the equipment managers on task?

    3. Or do they want their play to speak for itself?

    In the case of Rutgers, their helmets are always beat, but they also look like they wear older model Schutts, as well as lower-end Nike template unis meaning money might be a factor.

    In the case of VaTech, it might be a personal choice, becasue ALL of the helmets aren’t scarred.

  • Stuby | January 5, 2009 at 12:11 pm |

    I know there’s nothing more ridiculous than the staged ‘College Selection’ part of the High School All-Star Game (sponsored by Under Armour? Really?). But one of the players chose Cal and they had a hat with a logo that I hadn’t seen before. It looked like maybe it was the traditional Cal logo
    http://www.bigfogg.c...
    but with the ‘al’ removed – just a stylized ‘C’. What gives? Does Nike own the real Cal logo, forcing UA come up with something different? They used the regular Alabama ‘A’ so I don’t know why they would use a logo no one recognizes.

  • Ricko | January 5, 2009 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”308850″]I know there’s nothing more ridiculous than the staged ‘College Selection’ part of the High School All-Star Game (sponsored by Under Armour? Really?). But one of the players chose Cal and they had a hat with a logo that I hadn’t seen before. It looked like maybe it was the traditional Cal logo
    http://www.bigfogg.c...
    but with the ‘al’ removed – just a stylized ‘C’. What gives? Does Nike own the real Cal logo, forcing UA come up with something different? They used the regular Alabama ‘A’ so I don’t know why they would use a logo no one recognizes.[/quote]

    re: Cal. Two thoughts struck me. Could be next year’s sideline cap OR is it a Cal varsity baseball hat? Honestly don’t know what those look like.

  • Brian from Short Island | January 5, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    ND’s are always scarred, but that’s because they’re handpainted metallic gold. Looks much nicer than BC or Navy’s similar helmets.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”308850″]I know there’s nothing more ridiculous than the staged ‘College Selection’ part of the High School All-Star Game (sponsored by Under Armour? Really?). But one of the players chose Cal and they had a hat with a logo that I hadn’t seen before. It looked like maybe it was the traditional Cal logo
    http://www.bigfogg.c...
    but with the ‘al’ removed – just a stylized ‘C’. What gives? Does Nike own the real Cal logo, forcing UA come up with something different? They used the regular Alabama ‘A’ so I don’t know why they would use a logo no one recognizes.[/quote]

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”308853″][quote comment=”308850″]I know there’s nothing more ridiculous than the staged ‘College Selection’ part of the High School All-Star Game (sponsored by Under Armour? Really?). But one of the players chose Cal and they had a hat with a logo that I hadn’t seen before. It looked like maybe it was the traditional Cal logo
    http://www.bigfogg.c...
    but with the ‘al’ removed – just a stylized ‘C’. What gives? Does Nike own the real Cal logo, forcing UA come up with something different? They used the regular Alabama ‘A’ so I don’t know why they would use a logo no one recognizes.[/quote][/quote]

    Those are absolutely horrid.

  • Stuby | January 5, 2009 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”308851″][quote comment=”308850″]I know there’s nothing more ridiculous than the staged ‘College Selection’ part of the High School All-Star Game (sponsored by Under Armour? Really?). But one of the players chose Cal and they had a hat with a logo that I hadn’t seen before. It looked like maybe it was the traditional Cal logo
    http://www.bigfogg.c...
    but with the ‘al’ removed – just a stylized ‘C’. What gives? Does Nike own the real Cal logo, forcing UA come up with something different? They used the regular Alabama ‘A’ so I don’t know why they would use a logo no one recognizes.[/quote]

    re: Cal. Two thoughts struck me. Could be next year’s sideline cap OR is it a Cal varsity baseball hat? Honestly don’t know what those look like.[/quote]
    Ricko, as far as I know, the Cal baseball team still wears the block C cap:
    http://graphics.fans...

    Don’t know about the sideline cap angle, but wouldn’t those be made by Nike like their uniforms? I’m assuming the caps last night were made by Under Armour like everything else in sight.

  • Jeff P | January 5, 2009 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”308823″][quote comment=”308818″]But it’s very, very difficult to put something like this on backwards.[/quote]

    weren’t those just breezers (and not the actual pant) in teebz’ pic? i think one might be able to put breezers on backwards[/quote]
    The Buffalo ones perhaps, but that’s where the logo goes on every NHL pant anyway, unless a player takes if off for some reason (contracts with two companies, for example) You could put a shell on backwards (what normal people call them) But most have tightening belts that tighten from the front. You could do it with a shell, but you would notice.

    And the logo is in that spot normally anyway

    It is remotely possible the shell is on backwards, but far more likely is the ad on the back of Harvard’s pants is just a different or additional ad placement.

  • Beardface | January 5, 2009 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”308849″]Looking at the BCS top 25,including those who recieved votes, there are only a handful of teams whose helmets always bear “battle scars”:

    1. USC
    2. Utah
    3. Texas Tech
    4. Cincinatti
    5. Oregon State
    5. Rutgers

    I think that the main reason is shell color. USC, no matter whether it’s QB Mark Canchez or Beast LB Brian Cushing, their helmets are always beat up.

    the questions we need to wonder about are:

    1. Do they have the money to furnish the players with game/practice helmets?

    2. Are the equipment managers on task?

    3. Or do they want their play to speak for itself?

    In the case of Rutgers, their helmets are always beat, but they also look like they wear older model Schutts, as well as lower-end Nike template unis meaning money might be a factor.

    In the case of VaTech, it might be a personal choice, becasue ALL of the helmets aren’t scarred.[/quote]
    I think, especially for teams in the Top 25, the reason for the battle scars is to let their play show for themselves.

    I’m pretty sure VT is a team that, for the most part, did not do any repair to the helmets throughout the season (unless structural integrity was compromised). They wear the same helmets for games and practices, and I seem to remember just about everyone having a hemlet that looked beat up toward the end of the year.

    Combine that with the throwback jerseys, and it was a pretty mean look. But then again, with a guy like Bud Foster on staff, its to be expected.

  • Jordan Pope | January 5, 2009 at 1:00 pm |

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

    Nike Zoom Flyposite

    first new nike cleat other than black or white

  • Farmer | January 5, 2009 at 1:06 pm |

    Maybe a little copyright infringement by Gate City High School in VA?

    http://cougardavelin...

  • Ricko | January 5, 2009 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”308859″]http://gximg.ny.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=GS&Dato=20090104&Kategori=MULTIMEDIA0302&Lopenr=104009997&Ref=PH&Item=5&MaxW=590&MaxH=392&Border=0

    Nike Zoom Flyposite

    first new nike cleat other than black or white[/quote]

    Gee, we used to RUN gassers.

  • Ricko | January 5, 2009 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”308860″]Maybe a little copyright infringement by Gate City High School in VA?

    http://cougardavelin...

    Traditionally, pros and major college programs have looked the other way when high schools adopt their logos. They figure it’s just good PR. Keeps kids in the “fan base loop”. in such cases, Imitation is the sincerest form of continued consumer interest.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”308859″]http://gximg.ny.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=GS&Dato=20090104&Kategori=MULTIMEDIA0302&Lopenr=104009997&Ref=PH&Item=5&MaxW=590&MaxH=392&Border=0

    Nike Zoom Flyposite

    first new nike cleat other than black or white[/quote]

    #44, Ha Ha JP!

  • Ricko | January 5, 2009 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”308862″][quote comment=”308860″]Maybe a little copyright infringement by Gate City High School in VA?

    http://cougardavelin...

    Traditionally, pros and major college programs have looked the other way when high schools adopt their logos. They figure it’s just good PR. Keeps kids in the “fan base loop”. in such cases, Imitation is the sincerest form of continued consumer interest.[/quote]

    That’s also why you rarely see schools SELLING anything with a pro logo. They’ll WEAR it on unis, yes, but when they start generating money from the SALE of it, they run the risk of hearing from the legal department.

  • Farmer | January 5, 2009 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”308864″][quote comment=”308862″][quote comment=”308860″]Maybe a little copyright infringement by Gate City High School in VA?

    http://cougardavelin...

    Traditionally, pros and major college programs have looked the other way when high schools adopt their logos. They figure it’s just good PR. Keeps kids in the “fan base loop”. in such cases, Imitation is the sincerest form of continued consumer interest.[/quote]

    That’s also why you rarely see schools SELLING anything with a pro logo. They’ll WEAR it on unis, yes, but when they start generating money from the SALE of it, they run the risk of hearing from the legal department.[/quote]

    Gotcha. Figured as such. Actually now that I think about it my old high school used to use the K-State cougar logo and then abruptly stopped. Maybe they ran into something like you mentioned.

  • Jordan Pope | January 5, 2009 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”308863″][quote comment=”308859″]http://gximg.ny.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=GS&Dato=20090104&Kategori=MULTIMEDIA0302&Lopenr=104009997&Ref=PH&Item=5&MaxW=590&MaxH=392&Border=0

    Nike Zoom Flyposite

    first new nike cleat other than black or white[/quote]

    #44, Ha Ha JP![/quote]

    damn you powers i just woke up

  • mtjaws | January 5, 2009 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”308825″]I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Lets look at Virginia Tech and Florida.

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Virginia Tech is a smashmouth team who will pound you to submission in the trenches. Their goal is to wear you out by dominating the line of scrimmage and pounding the ball down your throat on the ground. They’re not going to win any style points on offense, as they will generally do just enough to win. Thus, their helmets look beat to shit every game (note the OL who had 2 giant chips on the hemlet the last half of the season) with scratched and chips.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.[/quote]

    Look who is playing for yet another championship in the same stadium that the other just won the Orange Bowl in.

    And I don’t think the 2006 Buckeyes will think it was just enough Gator defense to win. 82 yards for the game!

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 1:27 pm |

    Check out this gallery on OU’s website:

    http://www.soonerspo...

    Pics #2, 15, 20, 22, and 28 really illustrate that, they too, are wearing:

    1. the plastic helmet protectors
    2. Special Edition printed gloves…note that only the brand new model gloves have the print

  • Jock | January 5, 2009 at 1:28 pm |
  • TheEHC52 | January 5, 2009 at 1:30 pm |

    Does anybody else think the new Nike Zoom Flyposite cleats look like the old Barry Sanders style turf shoes from around ’97?

  • Dan | January 5, 2009 at 1:31 pm |

    Back to gloved quarterbacks,I found this photo from a 1986 magazine and scanned it in, not sure how I link properly sorry, but here’s the url:

    http://farm4.static....

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”308866″][quote comment=”308863″][quote comment=”308859″]http://gximg.ny.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=GS&Dato=20090104&Kategori=MULTIMEDIA0302&Lopenr=104009997&Ref=PH&Item=5&MaxW=590&MaxH=392&Border=0

    Nike Zoom Flyposite

    first new nike cleat other than black or white[/quote]

    #44, Ha Ha JP![/quote]

    damn you powers i just woke up[/quote]

    Oh, and check out the crimson LT 2.1’s here in pic #18:

    http://www.soonerspo...

    The first few pics have GREAT views of the printed gloves.

  • Jordan Pope | January 5, 2009 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”308870″]Does anybody else think the new Nike Zoom Flyposite cleats look like the old Barry Sanders style turf shoes from around ’97?[/quote]

    they do look quite similar

  • Farmer | January 5, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”308871″]Back to gloved quarterbacks,I found this photo from a 1986 magazine and scanned it in, not sure how I link properly sorry, but here’s the url:

    http://farm4.static....

    Doesn’t look like he’s wearing a glove on his throwing hand though…

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    quote comment=\”308872\”][quote comment=\”308866\”][quote comment=\”308863\”][quote comment=\”308859\”]http://gximg.ny.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=GS&Dato=20090104&Kategori=MULTIMEDIA0302&Lopenr=104009997&Ref=PH&Item=5&MaxW=590&MaxH=392&Border=0

    Nike Zoom Flyposite

    first new nike cleat other than black or white[/quote]

    #44, Ha Ha JP![/quote]

    damn you powers i just woke up[/quote]

    Oh, and check out the crimson LT 2.1\’s here in pic #18:

    http://www.soonerspo...

    The first few pics have GREAT views of the printed gloves.[/quote]

    AND CRIMSON FLYPOSITES IN PIC #9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jordan Pope | January 5, 2009 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”308872″][quote comment=”308866″][quote comment=”308863″][quote comment=”308859″]http://gximg.ny.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=GS&Dato=20090104&Kategori=MULTIMEDIA0302&Lopenr=104009997&Ref=PH&Item=5&MaxW=590&MaxH=392&Border=0

    Nike Zoom Flyposite

    first new nike cleat other than black or white[/quote]

    #44, Ha Ha JP![/quote]

    damn you powers i just woke up[/quote]

    Oh, and check out the crimson LT 2.1’s here in pic #18:

    http://www.soonerspo...

    The first few pics have GREAT views of the printed gloves.[/quote]

    anyone know the meaning behind the design for the sooners

  • Dan | January 5, 2009 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”308874″][quote comment=”308871″]Back to gloved quarterbacks,I found this photo from a 1986 magazine and scanned it in, not sure how I link properly sorry, but here’s the url:

    http://farm4.static....

    Doesn’t look like he’s wearing a glove on his throwing hand though…[/quote]

    No, I don’t think he has, just thought it was a bit of an oddity that’s all! :)

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”308874″][quote comment=”308871″]Back to gloved quarterbacks,I found this photo from a 1986 magazine and scanned it in, not sure how I link properly sorry, but here’s the url:

    http://farm4.static....

    Doesn’t look like he’s wearing a glove on his throwing hand though…[/quote]

    Those are Neumann brand gloves. They were the most popular gloves in the NFL and NCAA until Nike and Cutters enetered the market.

    http://www.ihavenet....

  • Matt Brosseau | January 5, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”308809″][quote comment=”308802″][quote comment=”308801″]Hamilton College is a great opportunity for a Uni topic as their chain crew for the football games has a tradition (since the 70s, I believe) of dressing up “in costume” while working the chains.[/quote]

    Details, please.[/quote]

    i’ll try to dig something up…i do remember this…couple guys in my frat got to work the chains one saturday (was actually quite the honor)…and their ‘costume’ was pretty tame…minutemen (continentals), but i remember clowns, ben franklin & alexander hamilton, i think british redcoats once…man…

    that was 20+ years ago…totally forgot about it until it was just mentioned[/quote]

    I remember this. I am Hamilton class of ’01. The football fraternity at the time (I’m sure this is still the case) was Delta Upsilon; they were/are the largest frat on campus, and were made up of non-hockey jocks and their buddies. Those that did not play the sport would make up the Ham Tech version of the “Cameron Crazies” at basketball games and a few would man the chains in various costumes at football games. Although rush was forbidden until spring semester, DU knew who was going to be in their pledge class, and I recall a number of these pre-pledges manning the chains in women’s clothing.

    As far as Sage Rink, I do believe it is still named Sage Rink, although “Go You Conts” was removed sometime before Sept. 1997 when I came to Hamilton. (Aside: an actual Spectator headline discussing the injured football team read “Trainers Tape Conts Together.”)

    Along with the Dark Side buildings, Sage Rink holds many of my best Hamilton memories, including all-night skating all by my lonesome, two intramural hockey championships and multiple Citrus Games.

  • LI Phil | January 5, 2009 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote]damn you powers i just woke up[/quote]

    the words matt hears at least twice a day in his classroom? ;)

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”308880″][quote]damn you powers i just woke up[/quote]

    the words matt hears at least twice a day in his classroom? ;)[/quote]

    Well played, Phil!

  • Hott Rodd | January 5, 2009 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”308880″][quote]damn you powers i just woke up[/quote]

    the words matt hears at least twice a day in his classroom? ;)[/quote]

    I’m sorry Mr. Hecken but all responses must be posed in the form of a question.

  • who cares | January 5, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”308828″][quote comment=”308815″][quote comment=”308810″][quote comment=”308804″][quote comment=”308772″]Gators are wearing the aforementioned plastic helmet protectors at their BCS practices.[/quote]
    Check out the practice pants/shorts Tebow is wearing.

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

    Not much shorter than some d-backs and receivers wear now![/quote]
    There is so much wrong with that ensemble that I don’t think there’s anything right with it.

    The orange helmet/red jersey combo looks godawful. Why not use orange as the no-contact jersey color? Although I guess it could be worse — the shorts could be blue.[/quote]

    It’s cool though, normally all Gators wear jorts when they practice….or go out…..or do anything.

    http://acctrash.file...

    Are those pants practice pants or some compression shorts/pads that are normally worn under game pants? It seems weird that Tebow would need so much padding to go with his red jersey in practice but it also seems weird to have a belt on football undergarments. I haven’t played football in pads in over fifteen years and when I did never had anything remotely like these.

  • gopherboy | January 5, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    It looked like Jared Allen had a lot of red around the neck of his shoulder pads last night. His Chiefs pads?
    They looked like these.

    http://abcnews.go.co...

  • Flip | January 5, 2009 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”308836″]Some info on Pastorini’s flak jacket is on this page. I recall quite a few tv sportscast features on the thing back then.[/quote]
    I was in Houston visiting my sister when Pastorini went with the flak jacket. I remember the story about the bat experiment.
    Pastorini, it seemed was always banged up, yet Bum Philips would continue playing him even though he had a capable backup, Lynn Dickey, until that season. Coaches seem to think a starter playing at 50 percent is still better than a healthy backup. It appears that was the case still this year with the Jets and Favre. Obviously, Darren Sproles demonstrated that the backup can shine when given an opportunity.

    I admit that went off topic. So, getting back with the program, count me in the no-gloves column. I can’t understand, either, why stick-um is bad and sticky gloves are OK.

  • Johnny O | January 5, 2009 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”308878″][quote comment=”308874″][quote comment=”308871″]Back to gloved quarterbacks,I found this photo from a 1986 magazine and scanned it in, not sure how I link properly sorry, but here’s the url:

    http://farm4.static....

    Doesn’t look like he’s wearing a glove on his throwing hand though…[/quote]

    Those are Neumann brand gloves. They were the most popular gloves in the NFL and NCAA until Nike and Cutters enetered the market.

    http://www.ihavenet....

    I know there are quite a few NFL players who still wear Neumann gloves, but have the “N” logo taken off of them. I can’t think of any players off the top of my head, but I know they are out there because I pose the question to my friends at least a few times a year, “See he is wearing Neumann gloves, what happened to that brand?”

  • Maks | January 5, 2009 at 2:15 pm |

    I am quite behind with comments/ticker due to being out of town. So i apologize if this has posted before: Alexander Semin, of the Washington Capitals, showing some bling exposed in a fight.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”308884″]It looked like Jared Allen had a lot of red around the neck of his shoulder pads last night. His Chiefs pads?
    They looked like these.

    http://abcnews.go.co...

    Nice catch, GB!

    http://cache4.asset-...

    Ricko?

    http://cache2.asset-...

  • Matt L. | January 5, 2009 at 2:16 pm |

    Those Oregon State band uniforms reminded me of this:

    http://x-entertainme...

  • Johnny O | January 5, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”308887″][quote comment=”308878″][quote comment=”308874″][quote comment=”308871″]Back to gloved quarterbacks,I found this photo from a 1986 magazine and scanned it in, not sure how I link properly sorry, but here’s the url:

    http://farm4.static....

    Doesn’t look like he’s wearing a glove on his throwing hand though…[/quote]

    Those are Neumann brand gloves. They were the most popular gloves in the NFL and NCAA until Nike and Cutters enetered the market.

    http://www.ihavenet....

    I know there are quite a few NFL players who still wear Neumann gloves, but have the “N” logo taken off of them. I can’t think of any players off the top of my head, but I know they are out there because I pose the question to my friends at least a few times a year, “See he is wearing Neumann gloves, what happened to that brand?”[/quote]

    Strike that…it’s Big Ben that I am thinking of. He doesn’t wear Neumann gloves but a Neumann wrist/sleeve thing. You can see the Neaumann logo blocked out here:

    http://www.behindthe...

    Neumann logo:
    http://www.sidelines...

    http://ecx.images-am...

    Gosh, those gloves were awesome…I wish I knew where my old ones were.

  • LI Phil | January 5, 2009 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”308879″]I remember this. I am Hamilton class of ’01. The football fraternity at the time (I’m sure this is still the case) was Delta Upsilon; they were/are the largest frat on campus, and were made up of non-hockey jocks and their buddies.[/quote]

    was that way when i was there too (1984-88)…i was Psi U, and we had (until my senior year) just one football player

    [quote]Those that did not play the sport would make up the Ham Tech version of the “Cameron Crazies” at basketball games and a few would man the chains in various costumes at football games.[/quote]

    yup…lol

    [quote]Although rush was forbidden until spring semester, DU knew who was going to be in their pledge class, and I recall a number of these pre-pledges manning the chains in women’s clothing.[/quote]

    can’t spell “dumb” without …

    [quote]As far as Sage Rink, I do believe it is still named Sage Rink, although “Go You Conts” was removed sometime before Sept. 1997 when I came to Hamilton. (Aside: an actual Spectator headline discussing the injured football team read “Trainers Tape Conts Together.”)

    Along with the Dark Side buildings, Sage Rink holds many of my best Hamilton memories, including all-night skating all by my lonesome, two intramural hockey championships and multiple Citrus Games.[/quote]

    sage was the bomb…guess it still is

    /thanks for that post…another trip down memory lane!

  • The Hemogoblin | January 5, 2009 at 2:23 pm |

    Decent piece in the URL that I wrote that has little to do with uniforms.

    Anyways, to the uniforms:

    I really think U of O needs to hang up the vomit Lightning Yellow basketball jerseys.

    We wore them against USC, got trounced, and then OSU goes off and wears traditional whites and wins.

  • Matt Brosseau | January 5, 2009 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”308892″]
    was that way when i was there too (1984-88)…i was Psi U, and we had (until my senior year) just one football player[/quote]

    By the time I got to Hamilton ten years later, Psi U was the exclusive province of the varsity hockey team. My group of GDIs (that does not stand for Gamma Delta Iota BTW) and Psi U had more than a few run-ins over my four years…resulting in one expulsion, three suspensions, four trespassing arrests (you guys left a lot of crap in that big house), and a couple visits to the ER at St. Luke’s.

    But I will gladly bury that hatchet with you as we share both an alma mater and fandom of one very bad hockey team.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”308891″][quote comment=”308887″][quote comment=”308878″][quote comment=”308874″][quote comment=”308871″]Back to gloved quarterbacks,I found this photo from a 1986 magazine and scanned it in, not sure how I link properly sorry, but here’s the url:

    http://farm4.static....

    Doesn’t look like he’s wearing a glove on his throwing hand though…[/quote]

    Those are Neumann brand gloves. They were the most popular gloves in the NFL and NCAA until Nike and Cutters enetered the market.

    http://www.ihavenet....

    I know there are quite a few NFL players who still wear Neumann gloves, but have the “N” logo taken off of them. I can’t think of any players off the top of my head, but I know they are out there because I pose the question to my friends at least a few times a year, “See he is wearing Neumann gloves, what happened to that brand?”[/quote]

    Strike that…it’s Big Ben that I am thinking of. He doesn’t wear Neumann gloves but a Neumann wrist/sleeve thing. You can see the Neaumann logo blocked out here:

    http://www.behindthe...

    Neumann logo:
    http://www.sidelines...

    http://ecx.images-am...

    Gosh, those gloves were awesome…I wish I knew where my old ones were.[/quote]

    Even after Nike came out with gloves, I stuck with Neumanns:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    I loved the Team Editions that they made:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://cache.gettyim...

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 2:58 pm |

    Gosh, those gloves were awesome…I wish I knew where my old ones were.

    http://www.sportsdep...

  • Bernd | January 5, 2009 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”308824″]
    Here is the history of Riddell footwear, whom invented removable cleats:

    http://www.riddellfo...
    Holy crap!

    One of the integral parts of the legend of the 1954 World Cup winning German national soccer team is that Adi Dassler (as in Adidas, he founded the company while his brother Horst founded Puma) invented the removable cleat on soccer boots. Because our team had them and the Hungarians didn’t, we were able to beat their heavily favored team in the rainy final.

    Christ, it’s so famous it’s even featured in the movie Sönke Wortmann made about it (The Miracle of Bern).

    Never realized Riddell was first, but the internets say 1922, so it must be right…

  • bills | January 5, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”308855″][quote comment=”308851″][quote comment=”308850″]I know there’s nothing more ridiculous than the staged ‘College Selection’ part of the High School All-Star Game (sponsored by Under Armour? Really?). But one of the players chose Cal and they had a hat with a logo that I hadn’t seen before. It looked like maybe it was the traditional Cal logo
    http://www.bigfogg.c...
    but with the ‘al’ removed – just a stylized ‘C’. What gives? Does Nike own the real Cal logo, forcing UA come up with something different? They used the regular Alabama ‘A’ so I don’t know why they would use a logo no one recognizes.[/quote]

    re: Cal. Two thoughts struck me. Could be next year’s sideline cap OR is it a Cal varsity baseball hat? Honestly don’t know what those look like.[/quote]
    Ricko, as far as I know, the Cal baseball team still wears the block C cap:
    http://graphics.fans...

    Don’t know about the sideline cap angle, but wouldn’t those be made by Nike like their uniforms? I’m assuming the caps last night were made by Under Armour like everything else in sight.[/quote]

    I am both a devout Uni Watch reader and Cal fan and my older brother worked in the equipment room out in Berkeley (and as a result I am left with a shitload of apparel). I like to think I speak with some authority when I say I had never seen that logo before. But that kid was the #2 center in the country, unfortunately he seemed like a huge dbag.

  • Jordan Pope | January 5, 2009 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”308898″][quote comment=”308855″][quote comment=”308851″][quote comment=”308850″]I know there’s nothing more ridiculous than the staged ‘College Selection’ part of the High School All-Star Game (sponsored by Under Armour? Really?). But one of the players chose Cal and they had a hat with a logo that I hadn’t seen before. It looked like maybe it was the traditional Cal logo
    http://www.bigfogg.c...
    but with the ‘al’ removed – just a stylized ‘C’. What gives? Does Nike own the real Cal logo, forcing UA come up with something different? They used the regular Alabama ‘A’ so I don’t know why they would use a logo no one recognizes.[/quote]

    re: Cal. Two thoughts struck me. Could be next year’s sideline cap OR is it a Cal varsity baseball hat? Honestly don’t know what those look like.[/quote]
    Ricko, as far as I know, the Cal baseball team still wears the block C cap:
    http://graphics.fans...

    Don’t know about the sideline cap angle, but wouldn’t those be made by Nike like their uniforms? I’m assuming the caps last night were made by Under Armour like everything else in sight.[/quote]

    I am both a devout Uni Watch reader and Cal fan and my older brother worked in the equipment room out in Berkeley (and as a result I am left with a shitload of apparel). I like to think I speak with some authority when I say I had never seen that logo before. But that kid was the #2 center in the country, unfortunately he seemed like a huge dbag.[/quote]

    i was thinking the exact same thing last night

  • mdunner28 | January 5, 2009 at 3:50 pm |

    In case people still don’t know “What’s G?“, now you do.

    That’s kind of uniform-related, right?

  • Tony B | January 5, 2009 at 3:54 pm |

    Not sure if this was discussed yet, but the Mets Citifield patch appears on the home jersey here:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • Jordan Pope | January 5, 2009 at 3:57 pm |

    http://d.yimg.com/us...
    if you look in this picture i believe the cleat that is between the legs of the guy that is stretching is the Nike Zoom Merciless D

  • Geeman | January 5, 2009 at 3:59 pm |

    This is Oregon, in case you missed the absence of the school name on the jersey (though the player’s name is on the back — go figure).

    http://www.goducks.c...

  • Duck | January 5, 2009 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”308897″][quote comment=”308824″]
    Here is the history of Riddell footwear, whom invented removable cleats:

    http://www.riddellfo...
    Holy crap!

    One of the integral parts of the legend of the 1954 World Cup winning German national soccer team is that Adi Dassler (as in Adidas, he founded the company while his brother Horst founded Puma) invented the removable cleat on soccer boots. Because our team had them and the Hungarians didn’t, we were able to beat their heavily favored team in the rainy final.

    Christ, it’s so famous it’s even featured in the movie Sönke Wortmann made about it (The Miracle of Bern).

    Never realized Riddell was first, but the internets say 1922, so it must be right…[/quote]

    Nice catch. But it doesn’t surprise me in the least that the 2 different sporting worlds of football and football(soccer) wouldn’t exactly be looking to the other for innovations in footwear. Most of the world doesn’t give 2 shites about American football now, let alone in the 50’s.

  • Johnny O | January 5, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”308900″]In case people still don’t know “What’s G?“, now you do.

    That’s kind of uniform-related, right?[/quote]

    The “G” at the end of the Gatorade commercial looks like the Georgetown “G”. A little bit anyways.

    Here is another “G” commercial with different athletes:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • JTH | January 5, 2009 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”308901″]Not sure if this was discussed yet, but the Mets Citifield patch appears on the home jersey here:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...
    Wow. That patch is friggin’ huge. And it looks even worse than I was expecting.

  • Samuel Lam | January 5, 2009 at 4:31 pm |

    I came across this mock, photoshop of the Sharks uniforms… including what the third alternate SHOULD have looked like

    http://community.liv...

  • LI Phil | January 5, 2009 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”308906″][quote comment=”308901″]Not sure if this was discussed yet, but the Mets Citifield patch appears on the home jersey here:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...
    Wow. That patch is friggin’ huge. And it looks even worse than I was expecting.[/quote]

    well it was either that patch or this one

    /eff the wilpons

  • mdunner28 | January 5, 2009 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”308901″]Not sure if this was discussed yet, but the Mets Citifield patch appears on the home jersey here:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    You’ve got 30 minutes!

  • dhrsko2 | January 5, 2009 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”308779″][quote comment=”308776″][quote comment=”308773″]Jim McMahon picture from Super Bowl XX

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Seeing that Jim McMahon photo reminds me of the emergence of the flak jacket as a means to protect a players’ ribs. The first such mention of one was in 1979 or so.

    A future topic might be the evolution of the flak jacket. Do players still wear them? If so, they certainly are not as obtrusive in appearance as the early ones.[/quote]

    Not only do most QBs wear them these days, but you see a few receivers with them on now and again, as well. Though, the receiver version seems to be more about the lower back / kidney area.

    Can’t think of many QBs I have seen NOT wearing one as of late. I think they are much thinner than they were originally.[/quote]

    Today a lot of players wear under armor type undershirts that have built in rib padding that is much less noticeable than a traditional flak jacket

  • DenverGregg | January 5, 2009 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”308900″]In case people still don’t know “What’s G?“, now you do.

    That’s kind of uniform-related, right?[/quote]
    New packaging has been on store shelves in Denver for a few weeks. The voiceover on the commercial may be enough to get me to quit drinking a bottle on the way to work most mornings.

  • tmac3217 | January 5, 2009 at 6:16 pm |

    Look for the Twins to add another patch somewhere to their jerseys this season — owner Carl Pohlad passed away today.

  • the rAKe | January 5, 2009 at 6:54 pm |

    Here’s one that you might have missed.

    Nike signs five year endorsement deal with…Vietnam Football (soccer) Federation, they outbid Li-Ning (Chinese sportwear manufacturer. Way to go Phil!

  • the rAKe | January 5, 2009 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”308913″]Here’s one that you might have missed.

    Nike signs five year endorsement deal with…Vietnam Football (soccer) Federation, they outbid Li-Ning (Chinese sportwear manufacturer. Way to go Phil![/quote]

    p.s. That was a shot at Mr Knight, not “our” Phil

  • C-Dublin | January 5, 2009 at 7:22 pm |

    I seem to remember the Dolphins wearing the navy blue alternates that they briefly had in the playoffs a few years back… Does that ring a bell for anyone else?

  • ChrisN | January 5, 2009 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”308848″][quote comment=”308844″][quote comment=”308829″][quote comment=”308825″]I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Lets look at Virginia Tech and Florida.

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Virginia Tech is a smashmouth team who will pound you to submission in the trenches. Their goal is to wear you out by dominating the line of scrimmage and pounding the ball down your throat on the ground. They’re not going to win any style points on offense, as they will generally do just enough to win. Thus, their helmets look beat to shit every game (note the OL who had 2 giant chips on the hemlet the last half of the season) with scratched and chips.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.[/quote]

    Or, it’s because Florida has a much more anal equipment manager.[/quote]
    It would be interesting to see if these 2 programs are the extremes, or if this is a trend throughout college football.

    If there ever was a place where someone would find out, its here[/quote]

    OU uses two different helmets (one set for games & one practices) & I assumed most schools would do the same. I do know that the Sooners do not use titanium facemasks (as they do on game days) on the practice gear as there was a nice preseason video on soonersports.com that took you inside the prep for the football season.[/quote]

    Maybe this is why Virginia Tech’s helmets look beaten up… they’re high-tech helmets that are mighty expensive to replace.

    http://www.iht.com/a...

  • dunford | January 5, 2009 at 8:21 pm |

    MLB.com leaked the new Texas home uniforms.

    http://MLB.imageg.ne...

  • C.N. | January 5, 2009 at 8:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”308825″]I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.[/quote]

    As with all analogies, this one breaks down pretty quickly…

    The most points Florida allowed all season were 31, in the loss to Ole Miss. They allowed 10 points to Hawai’i, 3 to Miami, 21 to LSU, 5 to Kentucky, 10 to Georgia, 14 at Vanderbilt, 6 to South Carolina, 15 at Florida State and 20 to Alabama, among bowl-bound teams.

    Just enough defense to win the game, huh? You do realize no one’s come within single digits of them since the Ole Miss game?

    Outscoring people and playing no defense is not Florida’s game at all. Beating the hell out of the other team in every facet of the game is the Gators’ style, and it’s worked pretty well thus far.

    /SEC fan defending a hated rival, but an SEC team nonetheless

  • Jeff P | January 5, 2009 at 8:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”308917″]MLB.com leaked the new Texas home uniforms.

    http://MLB.imageg.ne...
    Those are nice.

  • Jonathan | January 5, 2009 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”308827″]Speaking of gloves.. I’ve noticed several times this season and last that players in the NCAA are pushing it with colors. I remember going to UAB games and seeing the players wearing Gray/White gloves, and I’m not sure on the rule, but the two tone gray i know is in the rulebook.

    Here’s a few coloured gloves from the season..

    Brandon Spikes

    Clemson’s Custom Gloves

    Oregon’s Custom pattern

    The Clemson gloves COULD have been coloured by the players.. but I’m not sure. Also note that each team with the pattern gloves has their team colour on the strap.. Are Nike and Adidas finding ways around the gray glove rule?[/quote]
    Nice finds the guy on Florida gloves were different from anyone on the team,Clemsons guy may have colored them with a marker, and the CUSTOM GLoves that some teams have is the new NIKE Gloves if a school is sponserd by nike they try to get the logo on the glove.

  • Jonathan | January 5, 2009 at 9:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”308846″]More glove shenanigans:

    Cal:

    http://www.maxwaugh....

    USC:

    http://www.maxwaugh....
    NO NO It can be yellow it dosent mean there matching colors its just nikes logo, and must of the time its black,white,or gray the just made it yellow to not ruin the gray on the glove.

  • Jonathan | January 5, 2009 at 9:12 pm |

    On why warner wears gloves
    http://cbs5.com/vide...

  • Sammy | January 5, 2009 at 9:29 pm |

    Terelle Pryor has an “88” decal above his earhole on the right side of his helmet. Anyone know what it’s about?

  • Zach | January 5, 2009 at 9:44 pm |

    Henry Melton (#37 for UT, defensive end) seems to have helmet logo problems–the longhorn on his left side has uneven horn lengths.

  • B Robs | January 5, 2009 at 9:54 pm |

    OSU’s kicker is wearing some really short pants. Looks like he has been using Al Harris’ tailor, only the OSU kicker doesn’t have any socks so its even worse.

  • Paul Lukas | January 5, 2009 at 9:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”308911″][quote comment=”308900″]In case people still don’t know “What’s G?“, now you do.

    That’s kind of uniform-related, right?[/quote]
    New packaging has been on store shelves in Denver for a few weeks. The voiceover on the commercial may be enough to get me to quit drinking a bottle on the way to work most mornings.[/quote]

    Some clown at a marketing firm sent me a big box filled with with new Gatorade product a few weeks ago. The accompanying press release included the line, “These products have attitude,” at which point I stopped reading, dumped all the beverages down the toilet, and tossed the empty bottles in the recycling bin.

    Morons.

  • Stuby | January 5, 2009 at 9:55 pm |

    Is Barry Switzer really wearing a burnt orange necktie and pocket square on the halftime show? Wow. I guess he felt he needed to counter Eddie George’s red tie.

  • Joey Guns | January 5, 2009 at 9:57 pm |

    Anyone see this article about a soccer jersey thief?

    http://deadspin.com/...

  • Richard Bruns | January 5, 2009 at 10:01 pm |

    At one point during the first half of the Fiesta Bowl, the terrible announcers on FOX said that Texas’s band has better unis than Ohio State’s band. Clearly wrong.

  • Jefferson D | January 5, 2009 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”308929″]At one point during the first half of the Fiesta Bowl, the terrible announcers on FOX said that Texas’s band has better unis than Ohio State’s band. Clearly wrong.[/quote]

    Fox knows nothing about broadcasting college football, and should bever be allowed to do it again. I have no idea what the contract situation is, but I can’t stand to watch BCS games because of them.

  • B Robs | January 5, 2009 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”308930″][quote comment=”308929″]At one point during the first half of the Fiesta Bowl, the terrible announcers on FOX said that Texas’s band has better unis than Ohio State’s band. Clearly wrong.[/quote]

    Fox knows nothing about broadcasting college football, and should bever be allowed to do it again. I have no idea what the contract situation is, but I can’t stand to watch BCS games because of them.[/quote]

    I agree. IIRC, the BCS contract shifts to ESPN in a year or two. I’ll be glad to see it.

  • C.N. | January 5, 2009 at 10:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”308930″][quote comment=”308929″]At one point during the first half of the Fiesta Bowl, the terrible announcers on FOX said that Texas’s band has better unis than Ohio State’s band. Clearly wrong.[/quote]

    Fox knows nothing about broadcasting college football, and should bever be allowed to do it again. I have no idea what the contract situation is, but I can’t stand to watch BCS games because of them.[/quote]

    I agree. I like Thom Brenneman’s voice, which is about the only thing that makes it bearable, and when Bradshaw and Howie Long used to do games together, it was OK because they have pretty good chemistry. I think they did one together each of the past two seasons.

    But all the other announcers are crap, especially Charles Davis. And do they have Chris Myers doing every single BCS game they do, or what? I can’t stand him either.

    But ESPN is getting the BCS contract, right? (I’m not particularly fond of a number of ESPN announcers either, but it’s a step in the right direction.)

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”308916″][quote comment=”308848″][quote comment=”308844″][quote comment=”308829″][quote comment=”308825″]I think its interesting on how teams make themselves look depending on what their philosophy is…

    Lets look at Virginia Tech and Florida.

    Florida is a cutsie, flashy offensive team who will dazzle you with scoring a lot of points and play just enough defense to win the game. Thus, because they are built on being flashy, they use the helmet protectors during practice to make sure they look pristine every game.

    Virginia Tech is a smashmouth team who will pound you to submission in the trenches. Their goal is to wear you out by dominating the line of scrimmage and pounding the ball down your throat on the ground. They’re not going to win any style points on offense, as they will generally do just enough to win. Thus, their helmets look beat to shit every game (note the OL who had 2 giant chips on the hemlet the last half of the season) with scratched and chips.

    Kind of interesting how you can define a team based on the look of the helmets of the OL and DL.[/quote]

    Or, it’s because Florida has a much more anal equipment manager.[/quote]
    It would be interesting to see if these 2 programs are the extremes, or if this is a trend throughout college football.

    If there ever was a place where someone would find out, its here[/quote]

    OU uses two different helmets (one set for games & one practices) & I assumed most schools would do the same. I do know that the Sooners do not use titanium facemasks (as they do on game days) on the practice gear as there was a nice preseason video on soonersports.com that took you inside the prep for the football season.[/quote]

    Maybe this is why Virginia Tech’s helmets look beaten up… they’re high-tech helmets that are mighty expensive to replace.

    http://www.iht.com/a...[/quote]

    Replacement is different from reconditioning.

    Most high school and lower division college teams send their gear out at the end of the season to be reconditioned, or refurbished.

    The Higher-profile D-1 and high D-1AA, D-2 schools recondition the helmets EVERY week, as is the case with say, Notre Dame.

    The day after Christmas, we all had dinner at my mother’s house. My sister’s boyfriend, who was a lineman at Villanova, and now coaches D-1AA powerhouse Wagner, talked about this at length.

    Sunday and Monday the equipment staff would buff the helmets to a new shine. The remainder of the week, the players would wear the protective plastic coating, sans V decals. On Friday, or walk-through day, the decals would be re-applied and readied for game-day. The players reallyhad NOTHING to do with anything. They didn’t even know what uni combo they would be wearing until right before dressing. Three jerseys and three pants would hang in their lockers. Upon getting ready the managers would remove all but one set!

    Music to my ears!

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 10:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”308932″][quote comment=”308930″][quote comment=”308929″]At one point during the first half of the Fiesta Bowl, the terrible announcers on FOX said that Texas’s band has better unis than Ohio State’s band. Clearly wrong.[/quote]

    Fox knows nothing about broadcasting college football, and should bever be allowed to do it again. I have no idea what the contract situation is, but I can’t stand to watch BCS games because of them.[/quote]

    I agree. I like Thom Brenneman’s voice, which is about the only thing that makes it bearable, and when Bradshaw and Howie Long used to do games together, it was OK because they have pretty good chemistry. I think they did one together each of the past two seasons.

    But all the other announcers are crap, especially Charles Davis. And do they have Chris Myers doing every single BCS game they do, or what? I can’t stand him either.

    But ESPN is getting the BCS contract, right? (I’m not particularly fond of a number of ESPN announcers either, but it’s a step in the right direction.)[/quote]

    I would rather listen to Dick Vitale and Gilbert Gottfried announce this game!

    I am not one to make posts like this, but these guys suck! Fox has no business broadcasting NCAA games.

    Give me Musberger any day. Although, if I had my pick it would probably be Don Criqui and Bob Trumpy, hell I even like Enberg and Verne Lundquist.

  • Belgium Endive | January 5, 2009 at 10:29 pm |

    Good NFL weekend for the birds. Eagles and Ravens win yesterday, Cardinals win on Saturday, albeit against a fellow bird team.

    If one was to take a vote as the most unlikliest looking head coach in the NFL – would Brad Childress win? He looks more like a High School Chemistry teacher.

  • David Murphy | January 5, 2009 at 10:32 pm |

    Did anyone mention it was the 49ers who wore their throwback shadow-drop numbers and white pants in their Super Bowl win over the Chargers?

    And I can’t believe my son’s rivals made Uni-Watch…the King’s Academy “Crown” Knights. Big rivalry game Saturday…I’ll have to take my camera to see if the girls (who I recognize) will be earing their socks again.

  • =bg= | January 5, 2009 at 10:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”308906″][quote comment=”308901″]Not sure if this was discussed yet, but the Mets Citifield patch appears on the home jersey here:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...
    Wow. That patch is friggin’ huge. And it looks even worse than I was expecting.[/quote]

    There’s simply no way that patch can be that size on the sleeve. Lukas will be bananas on opening day. It might be too much for him to handle if they come out on opening day at the new place with black jerseys and that patch.

    PS -Neumann gloves; had a pair of those and they made great winter gloves for driving. can’t shift a car in big old bulky down gloves, but the Neumann’s were great.

  • Stuby | January 5, 2009 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”308923″]Terelle Pryor has an “88” decal above his earhole on the right side of his helmet. Anyone know what it’s about?[/quote]
    Looks like a 68 – no idea what it’s for, though. Prague Spring, perhaps?

  • =bg= | January 5, 2009 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”308926″][quote comment=”308911″][quote comment=”308900″]In case people still don’t know “What’s G?“, now you do.

    That’s kind of uniform-related, right?[/quote]
    New packaging has been on store shelves in Denver for a few weeks. The voiceover on the commercial may be enough to get me to quit drinking a bottle on the way to work most mornings.[/quote]

    Some clown at a marketing firm sent me a big box filled with with new Gatorade product a few weeks ago. The accompanying press release included the line, “These products have attitude,” at which point I stopped reading, dumped all the beverages down the toilet, and tossed the empty bottles in the recycling bin.

    Morons.[/quote]

    Gatorade ceased to be good around 72 when they took out cyclamates. cancer in lab rates or some such farce. Bah!

  • Chris | January 5, 2009 at 10:49 pm |

    maryland also had shoes specially designed for their humanitarian bowl game.

  • B Robs | January 5, 2009 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”308938″][quote comment=”308923″]Terelle Pryor has an “88” decal above his earhole on the right side of his helmet. Anyone know what it’s about?[/quote]
    Looks like a 68 – no idea what it’s for, though. Prague Spring, perhaps?[/quote]

    Just got a long look in HD. Definitely a 68, IMO.

  • MPowers1634 | January 5, 2009 at 10:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”308937″][quote comment=”308906″][quote comment=”308901″]Not sure if this was discussed yet, but the Mets Citifield patch appears on the home jersey here:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...
    Wow. That patch is friggin’ huge. And it looks even worse than I was expecting.[/quote]

    There’s simply no way that patch can be that size on the sleeve. Lukas will be bananas on opening day. It might be too much for him to handle if they come out on opening day at the new place with black jerseys and that patch.

    PS -Neumann gloves; had a pair of those and they made great winter gloves for driving. can’t shift a car in big old bulky down gloves, but the Neumann’s were great.[/quote]

    They actually make a non-tackified version of the receiver gloves for Winter weather:

    http://www.sportsdep...

  • JTH | January 5, 2009 at 10:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”308937″]PS -Neumann gloves; had a pair of those and they made great winter gloves for driving. can’t shift a car in big old bulky down gloves, but the Neumann’s were great.[/quote]
    Are you driving Stuart Little’s car or something? I’m fairly certain I could shift while wearing a catcher’s mitt if I had to.

  • u2-horn | January 5, 2009 at 10:59 pm |

    …and I’m sure everyone has caught the multiple, lingering camera closeups of the Gatorade coolers on the sidelines

  • Johnny O | January 5, 2009 at 11:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”308930″][quote comment=”308929″]At one point during the first half of the Fiesta Bowl, the terrible announcers on FOX said that Texas’s band has better unis than Ohio State’s band. Clearly wrong.[/quote]

    Fox knows nothing about broadcasting college football, and should bever be allowed to do it again. I have no idea what the contract situation is, but I can’t stand to watch BCS games because of them.[/quote]

    Although I agree that FOX has no business showing BCS games, or College football at all for that matter, I must say I frickin’ LOVE the voice of Matt Vasgersian! Maybe it’s my bias because it was his voice I first heard when I started really getting into the Brewers in the mid/later 90’s, but I personally think he does a good job no matter what he does. I was very excited to hear he is the lead announcer for the MLB Network!

  • Patrick in MI | January 5, 2009 at 11:47 pm |

    That Mets patch is stupid, “Inaugural Season”? Really? That makes it seem like the Mets are an expansion team…

  • Mike Engle | January 5, 2009 at 11:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”308946″]That Mets patch is stupid, “Inaugural Season”? Really? That makes it seem like the Mets are an expansion team…[/quote]
    Not to sound like our faithful narrator, Mr. Lukas, but that patch is terrible. That’s a Citi Field patch without saying “Citi Field” on the patch, thereby making it legal. But it’s the most insipid patch I’ve ever seen. If this were a high school student’s test, it would be a blank page with the name and date on top: no effort whatsoever, and an obvious failure.

  • LI Phil | January 5, 2009 at 11:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”308946″]That Mets patch is stupid, “Inaugural Season”? Really? That makes it seem like the Mets are an expansion team…[/quote]

    you wanna see stupid?

    just wait till they give manny 3 years

  • JTH | January 6, 2009 at 12:04 am |

    [quote comment=”308948″][quote comment=”308946″]That Mets patch is stupid, “Inaugural Season”? Really? That makes it seem like the Mets are an expansion team…[/quote]

    you wanna see stupid?

    just wait till they give manny 3 years[/quote]
    you wanna see stupid?

  • LI Phil | January 6, 2009 at 12:07 am |

    hey BCS committee…someone has a message for you…

    ‘we need a +1…and if i can’t do it, maybe that obama fella can”

  • u2-horn | January 6, 2009 at 12:31 am |

    [quote comment=”308950″]hey BCS committee…someone has a message for you…

    ‘we need a +1…and if i can’t do it, maybe that obama fella can”[/quote]

    http://www.bagofnoth...

  • u2-horn | January 6, 2009 at 12:33 am |

    Lots of helmet issues for the Horns tonight. Seemed like every DT had sticker problems, missing a horn here and there. Also, Roy Miller (#99) had more scuff marks/battle scars than I’ve ever seen a UT player have. Maybe they had fresh paint that got knicked up more than usual?

  • Beardface | January 6, 2009 at 12:49 am |

    [quote comment=”308940″]maryland also had shoes specially designed for their humanitarian bowl game.[/quote]
    were they thermal cleats?

  • Lwiedy | January 6, 2009 at 12:59 am |

    Currently watching “NFL Films Presents” and they are doing a segment on the green dot. This will re-air on the deuce Wednesday at 2 p.m.

  • Chuck | January 6, 2009 at 1:04 am |

    [quote comment=”308901″]Not sure if this was discussed yet, but the Mets Citifield patch appears on the home jersey here:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...
    are you kidding me? is this a photoshop prank?

  • Zach | January 6, 2009 at 1:21 am |

    Well, the Mets online store seems to make that patch out to be a feature.

    How is it that Citi can afford all of this, but needed government money to stay afloat?

    I’m offended on two fronts.

  • mr_xmt | January 6, 2009 at 1:22 am |

    Saw this and thought of Paul:
    http://seattlepi.nws...

    Guessing that he is not one of the “more than 6000 customers”…

  • Ryan Beauchamp | January 6, 2009 at 11:37 pm |

    speaking about the glove thing.
    Every postseason in college and the NFL the new gloves for nest season are unraveled. Well I saw a glince of the new gloves worn by Tim Hightower.

  • Ryan Beauchamp | January 6, 2009 at 11:40 pm |

    Antrel Roll erolled out in his ULTIMATE players exclusive cleats vs the Falcons