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Documenting a Maligned Decade

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New ESPN column today — look here.

Meanwhile … I recently got a note from reader Steve K., as follows:

A friend of mine was moving and his wife made him give up his boxes of old videos. Of course he kept all the Japanese porn for himself, but he knew I was a sports fan and offered me the rest. Most of them are ‘This Week in the NFL’ and ‘Game of the Week’ episodes and a bunch of other NFL Films stuff, spanning from 1971 to about 1979. Should make for a lot of interesting screen grabs!

To call the resulting screen shots “interesting” is to severely understate the point, because Steve (who, as you’ll see in a minute, has a very good eye) has come up with a body of material that’s every bit as compelling as Ricko’s contributions. In fact, if he keeps it up, I may have to inaugurate a new “Steve K. Files” series. For now, though, here’s what we’ve got:

• “This is from 1971, Week 1, Jets at Colts,” writes Steve. “Norm Bulaich had a big game, but the more interesting part of this is that he wore an NOB jersey during parts of the game but went NNOB during other parts. The NNOB jersey appears to be an old-school pre-1970 NFL jersey with the larger numbers, because it doesn’t even allow room for a nameplate.”

• “Check out how big the nameplate font was in these shots of the Bills and Jets (1972, Week 1) and the Jets again (1973, Week 2),” notes Steve. “I believe the Jets, Bills, and Patriots, all from the AFC East, used this ultra-large font at various times during the 1971 through 1974 seasons. The Jets seemed to use it inconsistently, as some players had more normal-sized fonts than others. By 1975, this font was gone for good, although I sort of like it.”

• “In Week 1 of the 1971 season, the 49ers wore white jerseys with plain white sleeves — no stripes, no TV numbers! This was NOT their customary road jersey. Except for the Bengals (who didn’t add TV numbers until their 1981 makeover), I can’t remember another instance in the 1970s when an NFL team did not have TV numbers.”

• “Check out the letter spacing on those Browns NOBs” [and the official’s picture-perfect stirrups — PL].

• “Look at the wild rain jackets the Giants are wearing on the sidelines! That’s from 1971, Week 1.”

• “It’s a little hard to see, but here’s an FNOB being worn by the Bucs’ Maulty Moore in 1976. They also had a Manfred Moore.”

• “Here’s another FNOB: Joe Owens, from the 1973 Saints. Oddly, there were no other players named Owens on the Saints that year.”

• “A lot of the 1973 Colts had NOBs that were literally abutting the numbers, plus Doughty’s NOB looks like it may be a bit off-center.”

• “Speaking of off-center NOBs, look at Craig Morton.”

• Check out Mike Williams from the 1975 Chargers — his first name initial comes after his surname. I think I’ve only seen that one other time in the NFL (Browns during the 1981 preseason).” [This is an absolute stunner for me. Never would’ve believed it if Steve hadn’t provided visual evidence. — PL]

• “When the Rams played their final game in the L.A. Coliseum in 1979, one end zone said ‘Good Bye,’ the other ‘Good Luck.'”

• “Here’s Lions head coach Don McCafferty in swanky 1973 duds, including a zip collar.”

• “Halftime show at New Orleans’ Tulane Stadium in 1973. Dog was NNOB, but at
least he had stripes on his sleeves. Is that T-shirt logo big enough?”

• “I hadn’t realized Archie Manning wore a single-bar facemask.”

• “Here’s Saints coach John North from 1973, with the Sir Saint logo on his jacket.”

Amazing stuff, no? Big thanks to Steve for all this great material.

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The Oracle Checks In: When I linked yesterday to this vintage basketball warm-up top and mentioned its snap-on nameplate, I was pretty sure I’d be getting a follow-up note from Rochester sporting goods maven Terry Proctor (that’s him at left). Sure enough, he sent me a note yesterday afternoon, as follows:

That photo of the Wilson warm-up jacket brings back many memories of that style. Wilson used the smaller “gripper” snaps, which made sewing the name onto the separate piece of tackle twill much easier. The only company we used that also used the gripper snaps was Russell. Powers, SandKnit and Spanjian all used the larger jacket-type “dome” snaps, which made sewing the letters on very difficult, because the foot of the sewing machine had trouble fitting around the dome. We eventually had the tags attached only at the top, for easier sewing. By the 1970s we changed from snaps to Velcro, which made the whole process a breeze.

Also: In the 1970s, the Coane Mfg. Co. of Philadelphia, which made a full line of quality uniforms (they did the Philadelphia Warriors and the early years of the 76ers) came up with a fleece tag that we sewed directly onto the jersey or jacket. Then you applied individual die-cut letters made out of the hook-sided velcro material. These letters would not fall off during play and were very easy to change if you had a new player. We used them mostly on basketball and baseball uniforms. They didn’t work out for football but they were a great idea in their day.

Terry has loads of stories like these. You might even get to read some of them if I ever get off my lazy ass and transcribe the phone interview I did with him last month. Soon, soon….

Uni Watch News Ticker: Indiana State wore powder blue throwbacks the other night. Note that the “I” is actually the shape of Indiana (with thanks to Dave Reding). … The trend of giving a personalized jersey to a newly hired coach, even though coaches don’t wear jerseys, has spread to soccer (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Amazing series of old NFL posters available here. … Trey Phillips notes that Saints receiver Lance Moore often wore one eye black sticker over the past season (but not always). … Matt Englander has brought another sports-themed illustrator to my attention: Paul Schoeneck. … Great time-lapse video showing the Winter Classic rink being set up at Wrigley Field here (with thanks to Greg Riffenburgh). … Faaaaaascinating rugby observation from Caleb Borchers who notes that the Harlequins, a club in London, wear their first and last initials on their shorts. But if there are two players with the same initials, they use the first initial and the first two letters of the players’ surnames, as in the case of Nick Evans and Nick Easter. … Vintage Riverfront Stadium groundskeeper’s uniform available here. … You know how boxers always do those cheesy stare-downs at press conferences and weigh-ins? Here’s the lamest one yet. That’s WBA flyweight champ Takefumi Sakata with the gauze mask. “On his blog, he says it is just to protect from catching a cold,” says Jeremy Brahm. “I know from personal experience that the Japanese will wear their masks while going to work, riding the bus or train, etc. I wore one over a weekend and couldn’t stand it.” … Matt Powers recently took his family down to Fordham, where his sister works in the Athletic Dept. After watching Colgate and Norfolk State play a color-on-color women’s hoops game at beautiful Rose Hill Gymnasium, they walked around the campus and saw some old framed football programs (here’s another) and this memorial to the Seven Blocks of Granite. … For a few months now there have been all these rumors about the Mets possibly going to a dark-gray alternate jersey next season. As I’ve explained to everyone who’s asked me about it, there’s no truth to this rumor — they may add some dark-gray fashion/replica merch to sell to suckers (just like every other team is doing), but the on-field attire has no significant changes for next season. Then, two days ago, I got a note from a reader who I won’t embarrass by printing his name here, breathlessly telling me that he’d just taken these photos of a dark-gray Mets jersey at a local Sports Authority outlet. I told him it was just a fashion jersey, to which he replied, “But it sells for the same $80 as the other jerseys!” After I explained to him that fashion jerseys sell for $80 and authentics sell for a shitload more, he went away, but he apparently gave the same spiel to several bloggers who pounced on the “story” (including this clown at The Daily News, who really should know better), which in turn led even more readers to write to me. So I’ll say it one more time: Contrary to what a few people apparently think, the Mets are NOT adding a dark-gray alternate jersey next season. And that’s the last time I’ll be addressing that rumor (unless it, y’know, turns out to be true or something).

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Holiday Schedule: Phil will have an entry tomorrow, I’ll be back on Friday, and then Phil handle the weekend, as usual. My thanks to everyone who helped make 2008 a very good year for Uni Watch, and remember not to make any New Year’s resolutions you can’t keep.

 

143 comments to Documenting a Maligned Decade

  • David | December 31, 2008 at 8:07 am |

    The 49ers wore plain RED jerseys in their 1973 season opener at Miami. I remember it well from an old This Week in Pro Football and the Dolphins ’73 higlights.

  • timmy b | December 31, 2008 at 8:22 am |

    Thanks for sharing, Steve K!

    The 1969-1973 era is LOADED with uni-inconsistencies.

    This was the transistion era from durene to nylon/mesh materials for jerseys. off the top of my head, here’s teams with noticable differences in jerseys during the season:

    1968 Lions blues
    1969-1973 Vikings purples
    1972 Dolphins whites (actually IN game)
    1971 Jets (note the lack of a green shoulder stripe in week 1. but as the season went along, the durene jersey returned with the top shoulder stripe.
    1969 Eagles (both white and green jerseys)
    1969 Saints blacks
    1969 Redskins whites
    1971-1973 Bears whites and navys
    1971 and 1973 Niners
    1971-1972 Bills (NOB’s and # fonts both whites and blues)
    …among others.

    Then there were the Eagles switching between “wire mesh” and “normal” mesh in the late 70’s.

    Happy New Year, all!!
    1969

  • Jim Bullard | December 31, 2008 at 8:30 am |

    gotta say, if the charcoal look was reality…not hating it, especially with Mets colors.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 8:30 am |

    In early 70’s a number of teams had sort of “minimalist” alternate jerseys. Was early days of mesh and screened-on numbers, and many teams used them for warmer weather games. Saints, I think, had a version without the bottom two stripes of their sleeve pattern…and the 49ers did indeed have an all-red with no striping or TV numbers. Dolphins had both home and road with no striping whatsoever. Vikings had home with no stripes. Bears had homes with no stripes and, in another year, versions of both without the common “arabic” numerals. Had standard numbers (screened) same as, for example, Vikings. that’s a few off top of my head.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 8:46 am |

    Browns experimented with tearaway jerseys about that time or a bit later, too (check with Tim B for year; was during orange pants era), particularly for Greg Pruitt, who ran back kicks in addition to being their feature RB. They were like cheap t-shirts with only front and back numerals, no striping or NOB. Pruitt sometimes went through three or more “jerseys” a game until the NFL outlawed such shenanigans.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    [quote comment=”307874″]Browns experimented with tearaway jerseys about that time or a bit later, too (check with Tim B for year; was during orange pants era), particularly for Greg Pruitt, who ran back kicks in addition to being their feature RB. They were like cheap t-shirts with only front and back numerals, no striping or NOB. Pruitt sometimes went through three or more “jerseys” a game until the NFL outlawed such shenanigans.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    like this ricko?…or is that a practice jersey?

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 31, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    Last night Maryland wore a new Under Armour spike with “Terps” on the inside

    http://www.jerseynam...

  • mike | December 31, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    wow, i dunno if there was sarcasm there paul, but you were kind of harsh when referring to the link to metsblog.com cerrone does a good job over there

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    [quote comment=”307877″]wow, i dunno if there was sarcasm there paul, but you were kind of harsh when referring to the link to metsblog.com cerrone does a good job over there[/quote]

    cerrone *may* do a good job, but that was AWFUL reporting on his part…just lame

    paul’s been squashing this rumor (since it first appeared on here) more than 2 months ago…this guy ever fact check? apparently not, nor did any of his commenters, who bought the rumor hook, line and sinker…

    hopefully, in ’09, these folks will realize all they need do is check with UW (or just PL) before running garbage like this

  • JTH | December 31, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    Why is it that everyone’s jumping on this Mets fashion jersey as being a new official alt? I haven’t seen anyone mistaking any other team’s charcoal-colored jersey for a new alt.

    Although I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: as far as those things go, the Mets’ blue & orange really seem to work well on the charcoal jersey.

  • Brendan | December 31, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    I dig the dark grey for the Mets. It’s far better than black.

  • JTH | December 31, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”307879″][quote comment=”307877″]wow, i dunno if there was sarcasm there paul, but you were kind of harsh when referring to the link to metsblog.com cerrone does a good job over there[/quote]

    cerrone *may* do a good job, but that was AWFUL reporting on his part…just lame

    paul’s been squashing this rumor (since it first appeared on here) more than 2 months ago…this guy ever fact check? apparently not, nor did any of his commenters, who bought the rumor hook, line and sinker…

    hopefully, in ’09, these folks will realize all they need do is check with UW (or just PL) before running garbage like this[/quote]
    He’s gotta be aware of this blog/the Page 2 column, no? Quick e-mail to Paul would have avoided some embarassment.

    …Assuming that he is embarassed by reporting it, because he should be.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment=”307875″][quote comment=”307874″]Browns experimented with tearaway jerseys about that time or a bit later, too (check with Tim B for year; was during orange pants era), particularly for Greg Pruitt, who ran back kicks in addition to being their feature RB. They were like cheap t-shirts with only front and back numerals, no striping or NOB. Pruitt sometimes went through three or more “jerseys” a game until the NFL outlawed such shenanigans.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    like this ricko?…or is that a practice jersey?[/quote]

    Could be. Photo looks like it was taken at Riverfront or Three Rivers somewhere. If anyone has those great NFL PROLOG pubs from the 70s, there’s a small shot in one of them of Pruitt being grabbed and the jersey is tearing and stretched out a couple feet or more (sidebar about the tearaways accompanies the photo).

    Mine are all down in my storage area…I think.

    —Ricko

  • nocalal | December 31, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    Fun link to a gallery for the 50th anniversary of Cal’s last appearance in the Rose Bowl, vs. Iowa in 1959.

    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • Bopper | December 31, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    Traditionally, new soccer managers hold up a team scarf. Sometimes with the owners, sometimes to the fans outside, and sometimes just in press conferences.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    Story about Pruitt, mentions the tearaways.

    http://www.cleveland...

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”307875″][quote comment=”307874″]Browns experimented with tearaway jerseys about that time or a bit later, too (check with Tim B for year; was during orange pants era), particularly for Greg Pruitt, who ran back kicks in addition to being their feature RB. They were like cheap t-shirts with only front and back numerals, no striping or NOB. Pruitt sometimes went through three or more “jerseys” a game until the NFL outlawed such shenanigans.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    like this ricko?…or is that a practice jersey?[/quote]

    Oops, no, (upon further review and after reading that story about Pruitt) probably not. Has TV numbers…and another shirt under it.

    —Ricko

  • Scott | December 31, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    Can I get a hands of people who really could care less what the Mets do … about anything?

    Until they deliver as they’re as compelling as they were during the Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, or the drug twins Darryl Blueberry and Dwight Goodenplenty eras … they should not receive media attention. Period.

  • Scott | December 31, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    That should’ve read:

    Can I get a set of hands of people who really could care less what the Mets do … about anything?

    Until they’re as compelling as they were during the Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, or the drug twins Darryl Blueberry and Dwight Goodenplenty eras … they should not receive media attention. Period.

  • Brendon | December 31, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    What kind of a friend doesn’t at least let you have some of his Japanese porn??

  • Paul Lukas | December 31, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    New ESPN column is up:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Brendon | December 31, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    WATCH OUT ARCHIE!!!!
    HE’S COMING FOR YOU!!!!

  • Lomion | December 31, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    So what do we call the Williams M. thing? FIANOB (First initial after name on back)?

  • Chris in Nashville | December 31, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    I love that Indiana State uses the state as the “I” going back to when Larry Joe was there. Check out these sweet pinstripe shorts. I wonder if they ever wore those in a game or if they were a promo thing.

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://images.politi...

    http://www.yoursport...

  • Like the River | December 31, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”307875″][quote comment=”307874″]Browns experimented with tearaway jerseys about that time or a bit later, too (check with Tim B for year; was during orange pants era), particularly for Greg Pruitt, who ran back kicks in addition to being their feature RB. They were like cheap t-shirts with only front and back numerals, no striping or NOB. Pruitt sometimes went through three or more “jerseys” a game until the NFL outlawed such shenanigans.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    like this ricko?…or is that a practice jersey?[/quote]

    I bought a car from Greg Pruitt at his car dealership in Lima, OH and he has his jersey on the wall and no tv numbers if i remember correctly

  • floormaster squeeze | December 31, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    The HP Cycling team has been showing off their new uniforms for 2009 (Look here)

    What does the “B” in NOB stand for?

  • Paul Lukas | December 31, 2008 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”307894″]So what do we call the Williams M. thing? FIANOB (First initial after name on back)?[/quote]

    Maybe ISNOB, for “index-style name on back,” because names in indexes are listed as “Lukas, P.”

  • Kenny | December 31, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    Remember to always set your resolutions low, that way you’ll always reach them

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Tim F. | December 31, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”307898″][quote comment=”307894″]So what do we call the Williams M. thing? FIANOB (First initial after name on back)?[/quote]

    Maybe ISNOB, for “index-style name on back,” because names in indexes are listed as “Lukas, P.”[/quote]

    How about NOBTFIWIRW for”name on back, then first initial which is really weird”?

  • Jason Hillyer | December 31, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    I bought a car from Greg Pruitt at his car dealership in Lima, OH and he has his jersey on the wall and no tv numbers if i remember correctly

    I believe that Mike Pruitt has the car dealership in Lima. (Greg & Mike Pruitt played at the roughly the same time for the Browns, Greg #34, Mike #43. They are not related to each other, however.)

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”307899″]Remember to always set your resolutions low, that way you’ll always reach them

    http://www.youtube.c...

    that’s hysterical! even t-mac laughs at him

    (why do we get the feeling that brewski someone handed him is the first of many consumed that night?)

  • Mike Edgerly | December 31, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”307895″]I love that Indiana State uses the state as the “I” going back to when Larry Joe was there. Check out these sweet pinstripe shorts. I wonder if they ever wore those in a game or if they were a promo thing.

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://images.politi...

    http://www.yoursport...

    Weren’t the Pinstripes just for warmups? You really can’t tell from the pic.

  • DenverGregg | December 31, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”307874″]Browns experimented with tearaway jerseys about that time or a bit later, too (check with Tim B for year; was during orange pants era), particularly for Greg Pruitt, who ran back kicks in addition to being their feature RB. They were like cheap t-shirts with only front and back numerals, no striping or NOB. Pruitt sometimes went through three or more “jerseys” a game until the NFL outlawed such shenanigans.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Bronco Rick Upchurch – the best return man to play in the dusty cowtown – wore tearaways for a few seasons too. He was drafted in ’75. The tearaways didn’t match the regular jerseys well at all – they were closer to the Tennessee shade of orange.

  • Mike Edgerly | December 31, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”307903″][quote comment=”307895″]I love that Indiana State uses the state as the “I” going back to when Larry Joe was there. Check out these sweet pinstripe shorts. I wonder if they ever wore those in a game or if they were a promo thing.

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://images.politi...

    http://www.yoursport...

    Weren’t the Pinstripes just for warmups? You really can’t tell from the pic.[/quote]

    OOPS…maybe not… http://images.craigs...

  • Dan | December 31, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    as far as the archie manning single bar, they actually made the starting lineup figure with the single bar. i think he might be the only starting lineup figure to ever have a single bar.

    http://www.amazon.co...

  • Shane | December 31, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    The Bruins’ Milan Lucic had a hole torn in his jersey by Pittburgh’s Tim Wallace in a fight last night. I took a screencap, but unfortunately it’s on my phone, which is not with me.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”307906″]as far as the archie manning single bar, they actually made the starting lineup figure with the single bar. i think he might be the only starting lineup figure to ever have a single bar.

    http://www.amazon.co...

    I don’t that he wore it for more than that one season. I remember thinking it was strange when he did it, and that he very soon went to the “square cage” (well, that’s what I called it).

    It was truly an “Archie Anomaly”.

  • Johnny O | December 31, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    Attention Teebz:

    I think you will be interested in this:
    http://www.uwbadgers...

    Is that what you are looking for?

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”307906″]as far as the archie manning single bar, they actually made the starting lineup figure with the single bar. i think he might be the only starting lineup figure to ever have a single bar.

    http://www.amazon.co...

    Someone should have pointed out to Starting Lineup that the Saints wore white shoes during Archie’s entire stay with the team. Oh, there might have a one or two exceptions because of turf conditions or something, but white was the color for the Saints, probably starting with his rookie year, come to think of it.

  • Jay | December 31, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    The Vince Lombardi windbreaker in the ESPN column reminds me of Woody Hayes’:

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

  • MPowers1634 | December 31, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    http://i256.photobuc...

    One of the colgate players, sitting on the bench, at the far left of the pic is wearing high Under Armour socks with a Nike uniform and Nike shoes.
    Shame!

    I also don’t recall ever seeing the type of jersey backing that Norfolk State is wearing. Is that common in Women’s hoops unis?

    BTW, if anyone ever has a chance to visit Fordham, do it. It is a gorgeous campus located nect to the Botanical Gardens and the Bronx Zoo withy easy Mass Transit access anywhere within NYC.
    I had never been there before and quickly fell in love with the place!

  • Paul M | December 31, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=\”307906\”]as far as the archie manning single bar, they actually made the starting lineup figure with the single bar. i think he might be the only starting lineup figure to ever have a single bar.

    http://www.amazon.co...

    Gotta love Peyton\’s pose in that pic, he looks like he just finished an ice dancing routine

  • MPowers1634 | December 31, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    Interesting role reversals.

    I had never seen pics of Larry Bird wearing Nikes:

    http://images.politi...

    I always remember him wearing Converse, especially the Weapons:

    http://lakers.topbuz...

    http://www.stargazet...

    BTW, Is that Stan Van Gundy in the lower left hand of the pic?

    Whereas, MJ wore Converse in college, and switched to Nike in the league:

    http://perso.orange....

    http://csertoglu.typ...

    BTW, Has anyone ever realized that his shorts were backwards in the above pic?

    It was his first game back after his first retirement, and the NBA logo was on his back left leg.

    That pic was on the cover of SI and I seem to remember writing a letter to SI asking if MJ had been away so long that he had forgotten how to wear his shorts correctly!

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”307910″][quote comment=”307906″]as far as the archie manning single bar, they actually made the starting lineup figure with the single bar. i think he might be the only starting lineup figure to ever have a single bar.

    http://www.amazon.co...

    Someone should have pointed out to Starting Lineup that the Saints wore white shoes during Archie’s entire stay with the team. Oh, there might have a one or two exceptions because of turf conditions or something, but white was the color for the Saints, probably starting with his rookie year, come to think of it.[/quote]

    and the golds don’t match (but then again, the REAL saints golds don’t match either) so maybe it’s accurate

  • MPowers1634 | December 31, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”307902″][quote comment=”307899″]Remember to always set your resolutions low, that way you’ll always reach them

    http://www.youtube.c...

    that’s hysterical! even t-mac laughs at him

    (why do we get the feeling that brewski someone handed him is the first of many consumed that night?)[/quote]

    I’m sorry, but that looke like it was staged.

    I thought it was ironic that the Rocket’s Mascot had “Clutch: on his nameplate.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”307915″][quote comment=”307910″][quote comment=”307906″]as far as the archie manning single bar, they actually made the starting lineup figure with the single bar. i think he might be the only starting lineup figure to ever have a single bar.

    http://www.amazon.co...

    Someone should have pointed out to Starting Lineup that the Saints wore white shoes during Archie’s entire stay with the team. Oh, there might have a one or two exceptions because of turf conditions or something, but white was the color for the Saints, probably starting with his rookie year, come to think of it.[/quote]

    and the golds don’t match (but then again, the REAL saints golds don’t match either) so maybe it’s accurate[/quote]

    If the Saints had worn the same gold as the Steelers, yeah, would be perfect.
    (eye roll)

  • MPowers1634 | December 31, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    Post #43…Van Gundy? in the lower RIGHT hand side of the pic.

  • jon | December 31, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”307890″]That should’ve read:

    Can I get a set of hands of people who really could care less what the Mets do … about anything?

    Until they’re as compelling as they were during the Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, or the drug twins Darryl Blueberry and Dwight Goodenplenty eras … they should not receive media attention. Period.[/quote]

    heres one

  • GT | December 31, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    with the Mets “new” grays,

    remember that’s the way Toronto wanted to go with there road unis. But they’re so dark that the fell like black temp. wise. Think the players were adamently against. Maybe union/MLB got involved?

    Don’t remember, sure I learned that from UW at some point in the past.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”307871″]Thanks for sharing, Steve K!

    The 1969-1973 era is LOADED with uni-inconsistencies.

    This was the transistion era from durene to nylon/mesh materials for jerseys. off the top of my head, here’s teams with noticable differences in jerseys during the season:

    1969 Redskins whites

    Happy New Year, all!!
    1969[/quote]

    Here’s the whites the Skins wore in week one at New Orleans: http://i256.photobuc...

    Always wondered why this was, but your notation about the difference between nylon and dureen is a reason that makes sense. September in the Bayou is pretty hot and dureen jerseys (which were worn the remainder of the season, IIRC) would be problematic.

    Here is a shot of the Skins wearing the ’68 style before a ’69 preseason game. http://i256.photobuc...
    Probably nothing that unusual about wearing previous year’s style in PS, but obviously Vince was responsible for the design change that was to come and stay for the next ten years. Also, you can see the LF wall at RFK which means they didn’t bother to reconfigure to football in PS.

    BTW, those NYG rain capes are absolutely amazing (and not in a good way).

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”307919″][quote comment=”307890″]That should’ve read:

    Can I get a set of hands of people who really could care less what the Mets do … about anything?

    Until they’re as compelling as they were during the Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, or the drug twins Darryl Blueberry and Dwight Goodenplenty eras … they should not receive media attention. Period.[/quote]

    heres one[/quote]

    I’m sure PL needs no defense of his choice of content but when it is reported that any club is adding a new uniform (even if it’s BS), it is treated here. Save the gripe for when the discussion turns to signing a fifth starter (which it won’t).

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”307921″]Here’s the whites the Skins wore in week one at New Orleans: http://i256.photobuc...

    is that why sonny has the NFL patch and the others dont? (at least apparently not)

  • Kurt | December 31, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    Giants/Packers Week 1 1971 – it rained like crazy at Lambeau. Giants won 42-40 thanks to two defensive TD’s in something like 12 seconds and a returned missed FG. Packers coach Dan Devine also got his leg busted up on the sideline.

  • MPowers1634 | December 31, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”307924″]Giants/Packers Week 1 1971 – it rained like crazy at Lambeau. Giants won 42-40 thanks to two defensive TD’s in something like 12 seconds and a returned missed FG. Packers coach Dan Devine also got his leg busted up on the sideline.[/quote]

    1. The Giants helmet logos looked ridiculous.
    2. Devine was a victim of Karma. Had he just suited Rudy up, there wouldn’t have been a problem.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”307925″][quote comment=”307924″]Giants/Packers Week 1 1971 – it rained like crazy at Lambeau. Giants won 42-40 thanks to two defensive TD’s in something like 12 seconds and a returned missed FG. Packers coach Dan Devine also got his leg busted up on the sideline.[/quote]

    1. The Giants helmet logos looked ridiculous.
    2. Devine was a victim of Karma. Had he just suited Rudy up, there wouldn’t have been a problem.[/quote]

    That’s some kinda karma, Dan hadn’t even coached ND yet ;-)

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?

  • MPowers1634 | December 31, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”307926″][quote comment=”307925″][quote comment=”307924″]Giants/Packers Week 1 1971 – it rained like crazy at Lambeau. Giants won 42-40 thanks to two defensive TD’s in something like 12 seconds and a returned missed FG. Packers coach Dan Devine also got his leg busted up on the sideline.[/quote]

    1. The Giants helmet logos looked ridiculous.
    2. Devine was a victim of Karma. Had he just suited Rudy up, there wouldn’t have been a problem.[/quote]

    That’s some kinda karma, Dan hadn’t even coached ND yet ;-)[/quote]

    Oops!

    The Rudy comment reminded me…Yesterday’s ticker item on the Scout team Receiver from TOSU was great. I wonder if any other teams from around the country go so far as to outfit the practice squads in their opponents unis.

  • JTH | December 31, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”307923″][quote comment=”307921″]Here’s the whites the Skins wore in week one at New Orleans: http://i256.photobuc...

    is that why sonny has the NFL patch and the others dont? (at least apparently not)[/quote]
    On the subject of pics with inconsistent NFL shoulder patches, here’s one with Piccolo and Sayers in the backfield together.

    Yes, give me any excuse to link to a vintage Bears photo and I’ll jump on it.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”307928″]From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?[/quote]

    You asking me?

    Jurgensen and Snead.
    Snead and Tarkenton
    and maybe Ninowski and Plum, not sure.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”307931″][quote comment=”307928″]From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?[/quote]

    You asking me?

    Jurgensen and Snead.
    Snead and Tarkenton
    and maybe Ninowski and Plum, not sure.[/quote]

    Maybe Bratkowski and Wade, too.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”307931″][quote comment=”307928″]From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?[/quote]

    You asking me?
    [/quote]

    Well, yeah. I was going to say something about Snead & Sonny and just figured I’d miss another one. Never thought of Snead and Fran, probably ’cause they both were with other teams when they were exchanged. I knew you know, that’s why I asked!

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”307933″][quote comment=”307931″][quote comment=”307928″]From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?[/quote]

    You asking me?
    [/quote]

    Well, yeah. I was going to say something about Snead & Sonny and just figured I’d miss another one. Never thought of Snead and Fran, probably ’cause they both were with other teams when they were exchanged. I knew you know, that’s why I asked![/quote]

    Wow, that means Norm Snead was traded TWICE for HOF QB’s!

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”307933″][quote comment=”307931″][quote comment=”307928″]From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?[/quote]

    You asking me?
    [/quote]

    Well, yeah. I was going to say something about Snead & Sonny and just figured I’d miss another one. Never thought of Snead and Fran, probably ’cause they both were with other teams when they were exchanged. I knew you know, that’s why I asked![/quote]

    LOL…oh, man, I thought it was like a Trivia Quiz. Sorry.

    But I think I got ’em all…even the maybes.

  • Chad | December 31, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    look what chad johnson started. can it get any worse? Vikings’ Punter Considers Changing His Name To ‘World Of Warcraft’ http://kotaku.com/51...

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”307935″][quote comment=”307933″][quote comment=”307931″][quote comment=”307928″]From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?[/quote]

    You asking me?
    [/quote]

    Well, yeah. I was going to say something about Snead & Sonny and just figured I’d miss another one. Never thought of Snead and Fran, probably ’cause they both were with other teams when they were exchanged. I knew you know, that’s why I asked![/quote]

    LOL…oh, man, I thought it was like a Trivia Quiz. Sorry.

    But I think I got ’em all…even the maybes.[/quote]

    I’m embarrased to say I’ve never even heard of (Nin)owski. I guess 40 years from now some young punk is going to ask “who’s #7 for the Bucs in that game from 2006” and I will be able to tell him I saw Bruce (Gradk)owski. The similarities will be EERIE!!

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”307936″]look what chad johnson started. can it get any worse? Vikings’ Punter Considers Changing His Name To ‘World Of Warcraft’ http://kotaku.com/51...

    I like that Vikes jersey more than the gamers.

  • Jordan Pope | December 31, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”307912″]http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/mpowerrs1634/DSC02691-1.jpg

    One of the colgate players, sitting on the bench, at the far left of the pic is wearing high Under Armour socks with a Nike uniform and Nike shoes.
    Shame!

    I also don’t recall ever seeing the type of jersey backing that Norfolk State is wearing. Is that common in Women’s hoops unis?

    BTW, if anyone ever has a chance to visit Fordham, do it. It is a gorgeous campus located nect to the Botanical Gardens and the Bronx Zoo withy easy Mass Transit access anywhere within NYC.
    I had never been there before and quickly fell in love with the place![/quote]

    yea i think thats a pretty generic template for russell athletics

    http://www.russellat...

  • War Damn Eagle | December 31, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    Paolo Maldini and Ronaldinho have their initials on their practice shirts, but David Beckham does not. Guess the equipment manager hasn’t gotten around to it, yet. I love the single “R.” I’ll call it SIOC (single initial on chest).

    http://www.flickr.co...

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Giancarlo | December 31, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    It’s easy to find pics of the Dolphins wearing striped & non-striped jerseys in the same game, like this one from Super Bowl VII:
    http://www.hollywood...
    As I’m pretty sure I learned from this blog, the reason the nylon mesh jerseys lacked stripes was that the technique of applying them was not perfected until around 1974.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”307937″][quote comment=”307935″][quote comment=”307933″][quote comment=”307931″][quote comment=”307928″]From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?[/quote]

    You asking me?
    [/quote]

    Well, yeah. I was going to say something about Snead & Sonny and just figured I’d miss another one. Never thought of Snead and Fran, probably ’cause they both were with other teams when they were exchanged. I knew you know, that’s why I asked![/quote]

    LOL…oh, man, I thought it was like a Trivia Quiz. Sorry.

    But I think I got ’em all…even the maybes.[/quote]

    I’m embarrased to say I’ve never even heard of (Nin)owski. I guess 40 years from now some young punk is going to ask “who’s #7 for the Bucs in that game from 2006” and I will be able to tell him I saw Bruce (Gradk)owski. The similarities will be EERIE!![/quote]

    Just checked. The two Maybes are definite.
    Ninowski and Plum were traded as part of six-player deal, after this photo was taken.
    Bratkowski-Wade trade (four or five players) was before the photo.

  • Giancarlo | December 31, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    That link didn’t work; try this one:
    http://i.cdn.turner....

  • DrBear | December 31, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    Something else from that Giants rain-cape photo – note the larger numbers on the back of the Packers helmets. Under Lombardi and Phil Bengtson, the team just had small stenciled numbers; Devine changed that to inch-high numbers. When he fired/quite/escaped to Notre Dame, Starr just took the numbers off entirely.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”307923″][quote comment=”307921″]Here’s the whites the Skins wore in week one at New Orleans: http://i256.photobuc...

    is that why sonny has the NFL patch and the others dont? (at least apparently not)[/quote]

    Might be an illusion (which you allowed for). Here’s center Len Hauss #56 with patch. http://i256.photobuc...
    87 is Jerry Smith and I couldn’t find a good shot of him.

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”307945″][quote comment=”307923″][quote comment=”307921″]Here’s the whites the Skins wore in week one at New Orleans: http://i256.photobuc...

    is that why sonny has the NFL patch and the others dont? (at least apparently not)[/quote]

    Might be an illusion (which you allowed for). Here’s center Len Hauss #56 with patch. http://i256.photobuc...
    87 is Jerry Smith and I couldn’t find a good shot of him.[/quote]

    From that angle (Sonny photo) can’t see the spot on jersey of other players where patches are. I think it’s safe to assume they’re there. Actually, if you look really hard can kinda see the left side (edge) of the patch.

    Speaking of “sonny” is also odd to see a game in New Orleans in sunlight. That’s what first struck me: “Oh, yeah, the Saints used to play outdoors.”

    —Ricko

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”307943″]That link didn’t work; try this one:
    http://i.cdn.turner....

    In reference to what? Uniform variations? Yeah, the ’72 Fish had Sand-Knit (the ones with stripes) and what I believe to be Wilson (non-striped). My guess of Wilson is due to the shoulder seams that are on a diagonal which is consistent with other Wilson jerseys I’ve seen. One time I took the game film and separated them into two groups, Csonka, Greise no stripes, Kiick, Warfield stipes, etc. A real big waste of time.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”307947″][quote comment=”307943″]That link didn’t work; try this one:
    http://i.cdn.turner....

    In reference to what? Uniform variations? Yeah, the ’72 Fish had Sand-Knit (the ones with stripes) and what I believe to be Wilson (non-striped). My guess of Wilson is due to the shoulder seams that are on a diagonal which is consistent with other Wilson jerseys I’ve seen. One time I took the game film and separated them into two groups, Csonka, Greise no stripes, Kiick, Warfield stipes, etc. A real big waste of time.[/quote]

    Since you posted a photo of SB7, here is some background on the Skins uniforms for that game that I posted on “ExtremeSkins”:
    There was a “special” set made for Super Bowl VII. There was one player that did not wear the new jersey, guard John Wilber. This is just conjecture, but Wilber severely tailored his jersey for tightness. Obviously, no big deal today, but it was far more unusual back then and perhaps he did not want to change.

    You were also correct about the NOB type style. Everything I’ve ever seen in photos and video would indicate that there was no nameplate either, which was quite unusual. I will say that those were Sand-Knit’s as were the sets before and after. The TV number style for Sand-Knit are very unique and were on both. It would appear that it was simply case of a new set being made for the Super Bowl. The NOB and numbers were screened on which we rarely saw on any Skins jersey until 1979 with the “modernization”.

    Another oddity from that game, look at most player’s shoes. If you see photos of the NFC Championship against Dallas, most were wearing the “typical for the day” shoes, all black, no striping. Kilmer switched to Pumas, Larry Brown wore white shoes in the first half and many others did also. Brown actually changed to black Puma’s for the second half! The manufactures made these shoes available to players because they were playing in the “big game” and would presumably get exposure.

    I have read this development greatly upset coach George Allen who thought any changes were either distractions or just bad luck. In any case, the Skins played like a team whose feet hurt.

  • Teebz | December 31, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”307909″]Attention Teebz:

    I think you will be interested in this:
    http://www.uwbadgers...

    Is that what you are looking for?[/quote]

    Heck yes! I’m all over that!

    No one else bid! LOL

  • Skycat | December 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”307942″][quote comment=”307937″][quote comment=”307935″][quote comment=”307933″][quote comment=”307931″][quote comment=”307928″]From ESPN column: http://tbn0.google.c...
    Rick, are there any OTHER QB’s traded for each other in this picture?[/quote]

    You asking me?
    [/quote]

    Well, yeah. I was going to say something about Snead & Sonny and just figured I’d miss another one. Never thought of Snead and Fran, probably ’cause they both were with other teams when they were exchanged. I knew you know, that’s why I asked![/quote]

    LOL…oh, man, I thought it was like a Trivia Quiz. Sorry.

    But I think I got ’em all…even the maybes.[/quote]

    I’m embarrased to say I’ve never even heard of (Nin)owski. I guess 40 years from now some young punk is going to ask “who’s #7 for the Bucs in that game from 2006” and I will be able to tell him I saw Bruce (Gradk)owski. The similarities will be EERIE!![/quote]

    Just checked. The two Maybes are definite.
    Ninowski and Plum were traded as part of six-player deal, after this photo was taken.
    Bratkowski-Wade trade (four or five players) was before the photo.[/quote]
    BTW, just noticed how similar the font was for the jersey numbers. Only Jim McMahon’s number stood out as unique.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    When I was look for anniversary patches, I noticed the goal line marker at Pitt Stadium, it reads “Pay Dirt”. http://i256.photobuc...
    If they did this today, would it read “The Hizzie”?

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”307951″]When I was look for anniversary patches, I noticed the goal line marker at Pitt Stadium, it reads “Pay Dirt”. http://i256.photobuc...
    If they did this today, would it read “The Hizzie”?[/quote]

    Also, Leo Carroll is getting quite a faceful. No Dave Kopay references, please.

  • Teebz | December 31, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”307949″][quote comment=”307909″]Attention Teebz:

    I think you will be interested in this:
    http://www.uwbadgers...

    Is that what you are looking for?[/quote]

    Heck yes! I’m all over that!

    No one else bid! LOL[/quote]

    And I forgot to add a “thank you” in my excitement, Johnny. :o)

    THANKS!

  • terps95 | December 31, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    In yesterday’s Humanitarian Bowl between Maryland and Nevada several Nevada players had a single white stripe down the center of their helmets, while most of the team did not.

    Anyone have any explanation for this?

  • Johnny O | December 31, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”307953″][quote comment=”307949″][quote comment=”307909″]Attention Teebz:

    I think you will be interested in this:
    http://www.uwbadgers...

    Is that what you are looking for?[/quote]

    Heck yes! I’m all over that!

    No one else bid! LOL[/quote]

    And I forgot to add a “thank you” in my excitement, Johnny. :o)

    THANKS![/quote]

    No problem Teebz. That’s what Uni Watchers do for one another…they look out for them and their uni needs! And if you click on each individual jersey/sweater I think they vary in sizes. And there are about 30 jerseys/sweaters, so you can pick based on size or number, but as the site states, they will be removing the nameplate because of NCAA rules. I will be bidding on a specific number, but I can’t tell anyone what number ’cause I don’t want them to bid on it! =)

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”307951″]When I was look for anniversary patches, I noticed the goal line marker at Pitt Stadium, it reads “Pay Dirt”. http://i256.photobuc...
    If they did this today, would it read “The Hizzie”?[/quote]

    did pitty wear white at home then?

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”307952″][quote comment=”307951″]When I was look for anniversary patches, I noticed the goal line marker at Pitt Stadium, it reads “Pay Dirt”. http://i256.photobuc...
    If they did this today, would it read “The Hizzie”?[/quote]

    Also, Leo Carroll is getting quite a faceful. No Dave Kopay references, please.[/quote]

    Sorry, poor form.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”307956″][quote comment=”307951″]When I was look for anniversary patches, I noticed the goal line marker at Pitt Stadium, it reads “Pay Dirt”. http://i256.photobuc...
    If they did this today, would it read “The Hizzie”?[/quote]

    did pitty wear white at home then?[/quote]

    I guess on that day. Where’s our “NFL who wore what when guide”?

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”307957″][quote comment=”307952″] No Dave Kopay references, please.[/quote]

    Sorry, poor form.[/quote]

    NTTAWWT

  • Kenny | December 31, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”307930″][quote comment=”307923″][quote comment=”307921″]Here’s the whites the Skins wore in week one at New Orleans: http://i256.photobuc...

    is that why sonny has the NFL patch and the others dont? (at least apparently not)[/quote]
    On the subject of pics with inconsistent NFL shoulder patches, here’s one with Piccolo and Sayers in the backfield together.

    Yes, give me any excuse to link to a vintage Bears photo and I’ll jump on it.[/quote]

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Sons of bitches

  • mmwatkin | December 31, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    I still don’t understand why New Year’s Eve is for amateurs…

  • Stuby | December 31, 2008 at 2:08 pm |

    Listening on the radio but there’s a color on color matchup for the Sun Bowl. Oregon St. in orange and Pitt in Navy. OSU will forfeit the time out for wearing the wrong jersey.

  • timmy b | December 31, 2008 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”307956″][quote comment=”307951″]When I was look for anniversary patches, I noticed the goal line marker at Pitt Stadium, it reads “Pay Dirt”. http://i256.photobuc...
    If they did this today, would it read “The Hizzie”?[/quote]

    did pitty wear white at home then?[/quote]

    Yup. 1969 the Steelers wore white at home for all seven games.

  • Smail | December 31, 2008 at 2:15 pm |

    More color on color shenaniganery in the Sun Bowl. Oregon St. in orange, Pitt in Blue.

  • Old Beaver | December 31, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    Oregon State looks sharp in the Sun Bowl. Black helmet, orange jersey & white pants.

  • Smail | December 31, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    On a related note, the Sun Bowl patches are giving those early 90’s Rose Bowl patches a run for their money in the “world’s largest bowl patch” category.

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”307965″]Oregon State looks sharp in the Sun Bowl.

    Black helmet, orange jersey & white pants.[/quote]

    indeed old beaver, indeed…pitt looks like SHIT tho..if only they had gone with white or gold pants…then the matchup would have looked very similar to this beauty

  • JTH | December 31, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”307962″]Listening on the radio but there’s a color on color matchup for the Sun Bowl. Oregon St. in orange and Pitt in Navy. OSU will forfeit the time out for wearing the wrong jersey.[/quote]
    Screen grab with a graphic that mentions the infraction. When the ref announced the penalty, he said it was “for failing to wear white uniforms.” Their uniforms are white, just not the jersey part.

  • Tom Nawrocki | December 31, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    In that picture of Archie Manning with the face bar, what’s he doing on the field in uniform without shoulder pads? Maybe this was some sort of non-game photo op.

  • Joe Morano | December 31, 2008 at 2:37 pm |

    THE “FUNKY FONT”

    Jets /Bills (and a little Pats) early seventies “funky font” (and early mesh jerseys) were produced by Champion (formerly out of Rockester NY). Famous examples were O.J. Simpson, and Joe Namath, but you caught others on photos. At one point briefly St. Louis Cards also wore Champion jerseys with the funky font. Check out pix in NFL book Pro Football Experience- many Card shots with various style unis. Remember big shot of David Rowe with name R O W E stretched out!

    Also in that ’71 Jets-Colts Game, someone else caught the Jets missing shoulder loop. I had seen other shots of those style jerseys in some old shots of a Jets Giants preseason game.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”307969″]In that picture of Archie Manning with the face bar, what’s he doing on the field in uniform without shoulder pads? Maybe this was some sort of non-game photo op.[/quote]

    Perhaps, but players used to routinely warm-up without pads. They’d go in before kickoff and pop ‘em on. I’m guessing the process is a little more complicated now.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”307970″]THE “FUNKY FONT”

    Jets /Bills (and a little Pats) early seventies “funky font” (and early mesh jerseys) were produced by Champion (formerly out of Rockester NY). Famous examples were O.J. Simpson, and Joe Namath, but you caught others on photos. At one point briefly St. Louis Cards also wore Champion jerseys with the funky font. Check out pix in NFL book Pro Football Experience- many Card shots with various style unis. Remember big shot of David Rowe with name R O W E stretched out![/quote]

    Exactly, and I believe the letters are screened, not pre-cut vinyl or twill. Don’t know what the process was but obviously they could size the letter anyway they wished.

  • MichaelS | December 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    Probably been posted but there could be a Chris Warcraft punting for the Minnesota Vikings next season. http://kotaku.com/51...

    Another random note, i was watching the cricket game between Australia and South Africa this week when i noticed that Hashim Amla, the South Africa batsman, had no sponsorship logos on his jersey like the rest of the team. The team is sponsored by Castle Lager so it could be that Amla who is a muslim has refused the logos on his whites. I’d show some pics but Cricket Australia have not allowed the photo agencies to attend the matches and take pictures.

    Happy New Year Uniwatchers.

  • tom farley | December 31, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    Giants/Packers Week 1 1971 – it rained like crazy at Lambeau.
    I’ve always thought that Giants vs. Packers is one of the best possible uniform matchups in terms of color. Especially on an overcast day.

    Thanks for sharing, Steve K.

  • Jamie | December 31, 2008 at 3:25 pm |

    I’m pretty sure my NYRes is not going to happen, but then again it’s super college-y and depressing.

  • chance | December 31, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”307911″]The Vince Lombardi windbreaker in the ESPN column reminds me of Woody Hayes’:

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    The Lombardi jacket isn’t a windbreaker – it’s quite clearly wool.

    Paul\’s right – very strange to see him a generic jacket. Lombardi wasn\’t exactly a stranger to ego – after all, he objected to Green Bay’s renaming City Stadium “Lambeau Field” on the grounds that if the stadium were to be named after anybody, it ought to be Lombardi himself – but I have a theory as to why it isn’t personalized. I suspect that the jacket was a hand-me-down, already several years old when Lombardi took over the team.

    Mitchell and Ness made a version a few years ago for sale at Lambeau Field in navy blue and gold. Inside it was labeled “1954-1957.” Now, M&N have made some dubious garments in the past, but unless they made this up, if you will, out of whole cloth, then it would have been before Lombardi\’s tenure. Add to it the fact that the Packers were wearing some blue and gold sideline items into the 1960s (blue was still an official Packers color until some time around 1964), it wouldn’t be much of a stretch to imagine Vince in a hand-me-down in his first few years.

    But damn, do I miss that Packers cap logo.
    I keep meaning to take a picture of the jacket for my blog – this might be the kick in the pants I need.

  • frank | December 31, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    I would kill to have all of Terry’s knowledge in book form and would be thrilled to transcribe any interview with him. I’ve been trying to piece together a lot of the information from catalogs and old magazines that he just gives off the cuff.

    i’d also kill for a t-shirt that had that “Good bye Rams” endzone logo printed on the front. hmmm…

  • Jefferson D | December 31, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    Did we see that UniWatch is the third most searched for column on ESPN.com? Behind the Sports Guy and TMQ.

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Jefferson D | December 31, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”307978″]Did we see that UniWatch is the third most searched for column on ESPN.com in 2008? Behind the Sports Guy and TMQ.

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • The Fonz | December 31, 2008 at 4:11 pm |

    i noticed that on the Mets.com Shop they removed all blank jerseys, BP, and personalized jerseys. is this a hint that they’re putting up new jerseys?

    also, i read somewhere that they are DEFINITLY removing the black away jersey (possibly keeping home black) is that true? if so, i hope grey away is worn with blue cap.

  • Marc | December 31, 2008 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”307973″]

    Another random note, i was watching the cricket game between Australia and South Africa this week when i noticed that Hashim Amla, the South Africa batsman, had no sponsorship logos on his jersey like the rest of the team. The team is sponsored by Castle Lager so it could be that Amla who is a muslim has refused the logos on his whites. I’d show some pics but Cricket Australia have not allowed the photo agencies to attend the matches and take pictures.

    Happy New Year Uniwatchers.[/quote]

    MichaelS – you are correct, Amla doesn’t have Castle sponsorship on any of his team gear because of his muslim beliefs. Cricket South Africa and Castle both publicly support his decision – can’t think of any other instance where majority of team is sponsored and one player doesn’t wear the sponsor’s logo.

    PS – plenty of photos on Sydney Morning Herald site but nothing that clearly shows Amla’s uniform.

  • Hott Rodd | December 31, 2008 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”307961″]I still don’t understand why New Year’s Eve is for amateurs…[/quote]

    Pretty sure its cuz the Pros drink every night :-)

  • Kurt | December 31, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    Did Pitt Stadium have artificial turf in 1969?? If so, then two of the 16 NFL stadiums had it that year.

  • Brendan in Eugene | December 31, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    While the Holiday Bowl uniforms for Oregon could have been worse, they could have been much better. Perhaps a throwback to this, when the Webfeet were referred to as the Lemon-Yellows:

    http://boundless.uor...

  • Brendan in Eugene | December 31, 2008 at 5:11 pm |

    Here are some more photos from the Oregon archives: what appear to shiny knickers for the lads in ’37 and ’38:

    http://boundless.uor...
    http://boundless.uor...
    http://boundless.uor...

    I know baseball tried satiny jerseys but did football also?

  • odessa steps magazin | December 31, 2008 at 5:19 pm |

    My favorite “uniform” related picture from the Life archives:

    http://tbn0.google.c...

  • UmpLou | December 31, 2008 at 5:21 pm |

    A quick Happy New Year to all the UniWatchers that entertain me daily — even though I mostly lurk, I still enjoy coming here and learning! A special thanks to Paul – whom I had the opportunity to treat to a Mets game in July.

    I couldn’t watch those very fugly Oregon St unis for more than five minutes….yuck…..

  • LI Matt | December 31, 2008 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”307981″]Amla doesn’t have Castle sponsorship on any of his team gear because of his muslim beliefs… can’t think of any other instance where majority of team is sponsored and one player doesn’t wear the sponsor’s logo.[/quote]

    Sevilla did that for a while when Freddie Kanoute objected to their sponsor (an online casino).

    ***

    Is it just me, or does “Sir Saint” look like Snoopy if you don’t look too closely?

  • Paul Lukas | December 31, 2008 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”307985″]Here are some more photos from the Oregon archives: what appear to shiny knickers for the lads in ’37 and ’38:

    http://boundless.uor...
    http://boundless.uor...
    http://boundless.uor...

    I know baseball tried satiny jerseys but did football also?[/quote]

    Scott Little has one of those 1930s Oregon jerseys. He showed it to me (and let me wear it!) when I visited his place back in August:
    http://www.burnsshoe...
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm4.static....
    http://farm4.static....

  • Ricko | December 31, 2008 at 5:58 pm |

    Happy New Year and, unless you’re with someone really hot, behave yourselves.

    —Ricko

  • Ross | December 31, 2008 at 6:20 pm |

    Kansas wearing white pants (w/ normal striping) in the Insight Bowl… that’s a new look, isn’t it? I thought they usually wore grey pants. They look fairly sharp.

    Sadly, Minnesota is wearing their ugly all-maroon unis.

  • Evan | December 31, 2008 at 6:37 pm |

    We have another exhibit of clowns playing football – BC’s Herzlich during the music city bowl, what a tool.

  • Jordan Pope | December 31, 2008 at 6:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”307991″]Kansas wearing white pants (w/ normal striping) in the Insight Bowl… that’s a new look, isn’t it? I thought they usually wore grey pants. They look fairly sharp.

    Sadly, Minnesota is wearing their ugly all-maroon unis.[/quote]

    since when was the insight bowl played at Sun Devils Stadium
    I thought it was played at Chase Field

  • Ross | December 31, 2008 at 6:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”307993″][quote comment=”307991″]Kansas wearing white pants (w/ normal striping) in the Insight Bowl… that’s a new look, isn’t it? I thought they usually wore grey pants. They look fairly sharp.

    Sadly, Minnesota is wearing their ugly all-maroon unis.[/quote]

    since when was the insight bowl played at Sun Devils Stadium
    I thought it was played at Chase Field[/quote]
    I believe they moved over to Sun Devil Stadium when the Fiesta Bowl moved to the fancy new Cardinals stadium.

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”307983″]Did Pitt Stadium have artificial turf in 1969?? If so, then two of the 16 NFL stadiums had it that year.[/quote]

    If you are referring to the photo posted earlier of the Steelers & Redskins, the answer is no. It’s a screen grab from less than perfect video and it does look like A.T. but isn’t.

  • mdunner28 | December 31, 2008 at 7:14 pm |

    Georgia Tech’s in navy jerseys!

  • Greg B. | December 31, 2008 at 7:17 pm |

    Did anybody else notice how similar this year’s Sun Bowl 75th anniversary logo looks to last year’s SEC 75th anniversary logo? Here’s a side-by-side comparison: http://image52.websh...

  • David | December 31, 2008 at 7:19 pm |

    Kansas introduced the white pants vs. Mizzou in Arrowhead. That was the same game Mizzou wore gold jerseys and black pants. You probably couldn’t tell the pants were white becuase the field at Arrowhead was muddy.

    LSU has twice been forced to wear purple in bowl games because the designated home team chose white: vs. Nebraska in the Orange Bowl following the ’82 season, and vs. GT in the 2000 Peach Bowl. In the 1997 Indy Bowl, it was color vs. color (Notre Dame in blue, LSU in gold jerseys, white helemts and pants; the Irish were not charged a timeout in that game, though).

  • David | December 31, 2008 at 7:24 pm |

    I would love it if Frank Beamer would introduce orange jerseys tomorrow night in the Orange Bowl. Their orange looks pretty cool.

  • mdunner28 | December 31, 2008 at 7:37 pm |

    Ew, Georgia Tech’s in their gold pants. I was hoping for a gold/navy/white combo.

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2008 at 7:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”307999″]I would love it if Frank Beamer would introduce orange jerseys tomorrow night in the Orange Bowl. Their orange looks pretty cool.[/quote]

    holy christ…NO!

    they’re wearing the sweet throwbacks, (according to beardface) sans the helmet, i believe…easily their best look this century

  • Stuby | December 31, 2008 at 7:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”307996″]Georgia Tech’s in navy jerseys![/quote]
    The announcer (Brad Nessler, I think) just said it’s the first time they’ve worn the navy jerseys since the ACC Championship game of ’06.

  • ChrisN | December 31, 2008 at 8:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”307996″]Georgia Tech’s in navy jerseys![/quote]

    It should have occurred to most of us here before the game – both Georgia Tech and LSU typically wear white jerseys for home games. One of them had to give.

  • Jordan Pope | December 31, 2008 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”308001″][quote comment=”307999″]I would love it if Frank Beamer would introduce orange jerseys tomorrow night in the Orange Bowl. Their orange looks pretty cool.[/quote]

    holy christ…NO!

    they’re wearing the sweet throwbacks, (according to beardface) sans the helmet, i believe…easily their best look this century[/quote]

    abosolutely

  • David Murphy | December 31, 2008 at 9:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”308002″][quote comment=”307996″]Georgia Tech’s in navy jerseys![/quote]
    The announcer (Brad Nessler, I think) just said it’s the first time they’ve worn the navy jerseys since the ACC Championship game of ’06.[/quote]

    …and they lost that ACC Championship game, so why wear them? Like most of tonight’s game decisions, the jersey choice was a poor one.

    Archie Manning just about changed facemasks every year…round cage, single bar, square cage, grey, black, even one like Terry Bradshaw wore early in his career.

  • David | December 31, 2008 at 9:27 pm |

    i’m not near a TV…anyone have a screenshot of the GT-LSU game? actually, i had brought up this game a couple days ago and was curious if anyone knew which team would wear a colored jersey. personally, i’m happy that GT is wearing navy, as LSU wore purple the last time these two teams played. happy new year, y’all.

  • Beardface | December 31, 2008 at 9:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”308001″][quote comment=”307999″]I would love it if Frank Beamer would introduce orange jerseys tomorrow night in the Orange Bowl. Their orange looks pretty cool.[/quote]

    holy christ…NO!

    they’re wearing the sweet throwbacks, (according to beardface) sans the helmet, i believe…easily their best look this century[/quote]
    My source is legit…

    Check out this picture from VT’s lockerroom in Dolphin Stadium…
    http://www.brinkleys...

    I know yesterday I said it would be cool if VT were to develop an orange jersey to go with the maroon throwback we will use full time next year. According to my source, that’s exactly what VT and Nike are working on doing for next year…

    But for the meantime… GO HOKIES! BEAT CINCI!

  • Jordan Pope | December 31, 2008 at 10:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”308007″][quote comment=”308001″][quote comment=”307999″]I would love it if Frank Beamer would introduce orange jerseys tomorrow night in the Orange Bowl. Their orange looks pretty cool.[/quote]

    holy christ…NO!

    they’re wearing the sweet throwbacks, (according to beardface) sans the helmet, i believe…easily their best look this century[/quote]
    My source is legit…

    Check out this picture from VT’s lockerroom in Dolphin Stadium…
    http://www.brinkleys...

    I know yesterday I said it would be cool if VT were to develop an orange jersey to go with the maroon throwback we will use full time next year. According to my source, that’s exactly what VT and Nike are working on doing for next year…

    But for the meantime… GO HOKIES! BEAT CINCI![/quote]

    I’d say a picture is pretty good proof

  • Lwiedy | December 31, 2008 at 10:25 pm |

    Folks, set your DVR’s on the Sci-Fi Channel for 3:07 am on January 2nd. They are in the midst of a Twilight Zone marathon and will be airing “The Mighty Casey”, a story about a mechanical baseball pitcher for the Hoboken Zephyrs. Awful for baseball authenticity but a classic nonetheless.

  • Dan | December 31, 2008 at 10:31 pm |

    Very odd Uni Change in the Sun Bowl: As you all know Pitt wore all Blue uniforms today but in the previous events including the luncheon, Pitt was wearing their alternate gold uniforms
    Link: http://www.sunbowl.o...

    Some other Bowl Uniforms Questions:

    Where have these gone at Purdue: http://www.sunbowl.o...

    As many of you guys know, TCU wore alternate Black Uniforms with the Purple Pants this year but it wasn’t the first time, they’ve been wearing these since the LT days: http://www.sunbowl.o...

    UAB wore Black Uniforms in the 2004 Hawaii Bowl, they have never been seen since: http://www.sunbowl.o...

    Does Memphis wear All Blue frequently: http://www.motorcity...

    How often does Middle Tennessee wear All White, they seem to wear blue, black and I think Grey pants with the white now: http://www.motorcity...

    Northwestern wore Black Uniforms in the Alamo Bowl a few years back

    BC really needs to bring back the maroon pants (2005 gallery): http://www.humanitar...

  • Beardface | December 31, 2008 at 11:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”308010″]Very odd Uni Change in the Sun Bowl: As you all know Pitt wore all Blue uniforms today but in the previous events including the luncheon, Pitt was wearing their alternate gold uniforms
    Link: http://www.sunbowl.o...
    You could have been tipped off by the fact the gold Pitt unis never had the bowl patch on them…

  • Mike | January 1, 2009 at 2:50 am |

    Guess you can show us now, Paul.

    ugh!!!!

  • The Hemogoblin | January 1, 2009 at 4:12 am |

    Happy New Year to all… and to all, let’s hope to god that there’s no horrible uniform decisions tomorrow…

    (That includes me rocking the hunter safety orange sweatshirt I have, mostly because if I’m wearing that, it means that I’ve been commissioned for lumber stacking… damn fireplace)

  • Ricko | January 1, 2009 at 7:14 am |

    re: JOE OWENS and his FNOB.

    I figured there must be a reason for that. Turns out the Saints 11th round draft choice in ’73 was running back James Owens of Auburn. He didn’t make the team

    Evidently he lasted long enough to need a NOB jersey for preseason, though, which would explain the need for FNOB’s. And they never bothered to change JOE OWENS once James had been cut.

    —Ricko

  • Marc from Brooklyn | January 1, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”308012″]Guess you can show us now, Paul.

    ugh!!!![/quote]

    No road “New York” in black at MLB.com, but that doesn’t seem to stop teams from wearing their black/dark home alts on the road. The Rockies do it even though they have a black road alt. The Diamondbacks wear their Astros jerseys, I mean Red jerseys, on the road even though they say “D-Backs” and not “Arizona.” And, I think I recall the Mets wearing the black “Mets” jerseys on the road in 1998 before they introduced the black “New York” jersey in 1999.

    I have a bigger concern that MLB, to sell more crap, will get teams to wear the “fashion” gray unis the same way teams wore the Navy caps with the team logo made from the US (or Canadian) flag.