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I don’t know what the ticket stubs looked like from last Saturday’s Army/Navy game, but I’m willing to bet they didn’t look as cool as any of the ones shown here, here, or here.

Those images come from this auction listing, one of many interesting lots in the recent Mastro Legends auction. Here’s a look at some of the more notable items:

• Gotta love this circa-1900 Notre Dame uniform, complete with noseguard (here’s the full auction listing).

• Would someone at Ebbets Field Flannels or Stahl & Dean or whoever please make a repro of this? I’d buy it in a second (full listing).

• Awesome 1911 U. of Colorado uni here. I love that they threw in the pennant (full listing).

• Man, the AFL’s officials’ jerseys were so damn cool (full listing).

• If there’s one thing this world needs, it’s more sideline capes (full listing). Here’s another (full listing).

Pretty cool jacket, right? But the real prize is the inner tag. Note the company name — looks like Papa Bear was an early proponent of vertical integration (full listing).

• That same tag design shows up on this 1948 Bears jersey, which has an utterly bizarre 6. Anyone ever seen anything like that before? I haven’t (full listing).

• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

• Here’s a real prize: a 1938 college all-star jersey (full listing).

• Here’s another college all-star uni (note the sloppy placement of the numerals overlapping the white yoke), circa 1949, only this time the pants are included (full listing). Here’s another, similar vintage. Do those 4s look super-clunky or what? (Full listing.)

• It’s hard to believe, but back in 1963, Oregon looked like this (full listing).

• And finally, one baseball item: If you really want to understand why chain-stitching is called chain-stitching, take a look at this. That’s from this 1935 Honus Wagner jersey (full listing).

Uni Watch News Ticker: Major corporate douchebaggery report from Todd Bellaire, who writes: “I grew up in Detroit (I’m in Texas now) and have been a Wings fan since childhood. My mom asked if I might be interested in any Winter Classic apparel for Christmas. I didn’t want an official jersey, but I appreciate the simplicity of the throwback ‘D’ logo and thought it would look great on a T-shirt. So I explored the NHL site and found this. It looked like exactly what I wanted, except for the ‘Reebok’ in what appears to be 14- or 16-pt type! It was so prominent and offensive to me that I encouraged my mom to forego the present.” … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Great piece here that provides the inside story of Billy Ripken’s “Fuck Face” card. … Jason Bernard just won this Whammy Weenie T-shirt. What’s a Whammy Weenie? Look here. And for an actual Whammy Weenie, look here. … Someone on the Chris Creamer board (which I can’t link to, cuz you have to be registered to access it) has gotten his hands on a Majestic saleman’s sample of a long-sleeve BP jersey, which is fleece-lined. Lots of additional pics here. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The Ravens’ coaches wore lavender jackets the other day, which is apparently causing a bit of a kerfuffle. … Also from yesterday: Darko Milicic literally tore his jersey off the other night. … Word I hear is that heads are gonna roll in the Nike marketing dept., because they somehow failed to strike a deal with Rod Blagojevich to get a swoosh printed on the Illinois capital dome. … Lots of photos and info from the Lacrosse Coaches’ Convention here (with thanks to Thomas Langan). … Gotta love the Swingin’ A’s. … Color-vs.-color alert! That’s UCLA and Minnesota in the 1962 Rose Bowl (with thanks to Kurt Crowley). … Wait, Nike got some product placement out of the Blagojevich story after all. Everyone’s rehired! … “I recently got a 1976 Yankees program on eBay,” says Neil Berger. “It has a story about the creation of the Yankee tophat logo [look here, here, here, and here]. And there are a few photos of Yankees minor leaguers — probably from Spring Training – show them wearing ‘Yankees’ in block letters (even if the team name wasn’t Yankees — like the Syracuse Chiefs).” … There’s a new-ish book of Phillies photos. Small photo gallery here, and further info here (thanks, Phil). …

 

280 comments to Auction Action

  • Mike Edgerly | December 10, 2008 at 8:25 am |

    Paul, the link to the small photo gallery of the Phillies book needs to be fixed to remove the “” after the .html (sorry for sounding like a techie, can’t help it)

  • Paul Lukas | December 10, 2008 at 8:31 am |

    [quote comment=”304537″]Paul, the link to the small photo gallery of the Phillies book needs to be fixed to remove the “” after the .html (sorry for sounding like a techie, can’t help it)[/quote]

    No need to apologize — thanks for pointing it out. Now fixed.

  • Kevin | December 10, 2008 at 8:44 am |

    Kevin from Illinois here. I pretty much knew that our governor was a scumbag years ago but now its confirmed since he showed up with Nike on at his court appearance yesterday.

  • Scott in Erie | December 10, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    The six looks like an upside down nine. Maybe they were short of sixes?

  • Glen | December 10, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    which I can’t like to, cuz you have to be registered to access it

    like or link?

  • Kevin G. | December 10, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    Didn’t Terry Bradshaw also have a facemask like that Cowboys one in the early to mid-70’s? I think it rode really high on his face.

  • Hoolie | December 10, 2008 at 8:54 am |

    • Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 8:58 am |

    [quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

    …on another note, i know it can’t happen in the nhl, but how great a possibility for color vs. color would be the isles in blue thirds vs flyers in orange?

  • DenverGregg | December 10, 2008 at 9:01 am |

    The “Colorado” listing is puzzling.

    Colorado College (alma mater of Gregg Easterbrook) is a private liberal arts school in Colorado Springs. The Tigers wear black and orange and still compete in big time college hockey.

    University of Colorado at Boulder is a Big Twelve school. The Buffs’ colors are silver and gold, but black got thrown in about 50 years ago.

    Colorado State University was Colorado A&M when my dad attended and was Colorado Agricultural College prior to that. The Aggies/Rams have always worn green and gold.

    Looks like the uniform is probably Colorado College but a Colorado Ag College pennant got thrown in.

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

    …on another note, i know it can’t happen in the nhl, but how great a possibility for color vs. color would be the isles in blue thirds vs flyers in orange?[/quote]

    It was nationally shown on VS… I was hoping for a color on color match-up but knew it wouldn’t happan, so just one would have been nice. Instead had to look at possibly two of my least favorite uni in the league.

  • M.Princip | December 10, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    I asked the same question about that Jerry Rhome Cowboys helmet, on a game used equipment forum I attend, and our resident helmet expert, a.k.a. Robert, had a very insightful response:

    http://www.greenglar...

  • Beau | December 10, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    Those 1949 college all-star uni pants remind me a LOT of Temple’s football uniforms.

    http://www.spmsports...(Ohio)-17-NCAA-Football-10-20-2007/medium_Temple%20vs%20Miami%20(OH)-066.JPG

  • Justin | December 10, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    Ok, this pink thing has gone crazy. Scroll down the page to see more madness.

    http://www.espnshop....

  • Beau | December 10, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    Link maybe fixed?

    http://www.spmsports...

  • u2-horn | December 10, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    another Bradshaw pic

    http://www.opengroup...(SC)Terry_Bradshaw_Photo.jpg

  • DawgFan | December 10, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”304547″]The “Colorado” listing is puzzling.

    Colorado College (alma mater of Gregg Easterbrook) is a private liberal arts school in Colorado Springs. The Tigers wear black and orange and still compete in big time college hockey.

    University of Colorado at Boulder is a Big Twelve school. The Buffs’ colors are silver and gold, but black got thrown in about 50 years ago.

    Colorado State University was Colorado A&M when my dad attended and was Colorado Agricultural College prior to that. The Aggies/Rams have always worn green and gold.

    Looks like the uniform is probably Colorado College but a Colorado Ag College pennant got thrown in.[/quote]

    Yes, defintely a Colorado College uniform and Colorado Agricultural College (now Colorado St) pennant.

  • Justin | December 10, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    Ok, that link didn’t work.

    On ESPN’s shopzone, the are selling Pink NFL helmets! Now that’s just crazy.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    now he can wear this full time…and crooked, of course

    7 years, $160M (give or take)…christ…were yankees bidding against themselves?

  • DJ | December 10, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    Colorado College (alma mater of Gregg Easterbrook) is a private liberal arts school in Colorado Springs. The Tigers wear black and orange and still compete in big time college hockey.

    CC wears black and gold, actually.

  • u2-horn | December 10, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”304555″]Ok, that link didn’t work.

    On ESPN’s shopzone, the are selling Pink NFL helmets! Now that’s just crazy.[/quote]

    http://a712.g.akamai...

  • Peter | December 10, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties[/quote]

    …on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them!

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties[/quote]

    …on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

    You mean take last place NHL team, move them to AHL and take AHL champ and move in NHL?

    AHL champ would get killed…

  • Namhob | December 10, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”304561″][quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

    …on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

    You mean take last place NHL team, move them to AHL and take AHL champ and move in NHL?

    AHL champ would get killed…[/quote]
    You would think, but this is how they do it in the English Premiership (soccer). Top 3 teams of tier 2 get promoted to tier 1 and the bottom 3 of tier 1 get relegated to tier 2. They have multiple levels and this occurs at each level.

    Granted, I don’t know much about hockey (I like to watch it), but isn’t the AHL considered the “minor league” version much like MiLB?

  • Hank | December 10, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    It was a little disappointing the Flyers went boring black last night. They have worn the Orange for the past 3 home games since re-introducing their trademark color jersey. Knowing how agressive they are in marketing, I’d have bet they’d be wearing them every home game up until Christmas.

  • Tom V | December 10, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    One of the things I enjoy about this site is that its about sports, and I don’t have to hear about how bad my Islanders are doing…well, most of the time…

  • Hank | December 10, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

    …on another note, i know it can’t happen in the nhl, but how great a possibility for color vs. color would be the isles in blue thirds vs flyers in orange?[/quote]

    Now that would be sweet.

  • JTH | December 10, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote]Wait, Nike got some product placement out of the Blagojevich story after all. Everyone’s rehired.[/quote]
    So what do we call that? Blago creep?

    It should be noted that the Feds apparently offered him some time to get ready so that he could put on a suit for his court appearance. He chose to wear that instead.

  • Ron V | December 10, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    The Ravens coaches wore Gray Jackets. People need to adjust their TV’s. The Baltimore Sun is fish wrap at best. Rbk sucks, but they didn’t make lavender football jackets.

  • Hoolie | December 10, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    Contrary to the article about the Yankees Top Hat logo, it is the Cardinals baseball team Cardinals on bat logo/sports trademark (first worn in 1921) that is by FAR the most recognized AND best logo in sports. See this Youtube link for origins: http://www.youtube.c...

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”304562″][quote comment=”304561″][quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

    …on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

    You mean take last place NHL team, move them to AHL and take AHL champ and move in NHL?

    AHL champ would get killed…[/quote]
    You would think, but this is how they do it in the English Premiership (soccer). Top 3 teams of tier 2 get promoted to tier 1 and the bottom 3 of tier 1 get relegated to tier 2. They have multiple levels and this occurs at each level.

    Granted, I don’t know much about hockey (I like to watch it), but isn’t the AHL considered the “minor league” version much like MiLB?[/quote]

    AHL is a sperate league than NHL, it’s just where most NHL teams keep their prospects who are not NHL ready. AHL is formed of mostly players that can’t play in the NHL with a small amount of NHL prospects that get called up and sent down thru the season. Take a AHL team that is 75% non-NHL caliper and 25% NHl prospects and play an NHL team, it’s going to be a blood bath. The skill level would be lopsided, and not to mention the size difference between the leagues. Lots of AHL call ups say the biggest difference is NHL is so must faster and the players are so much bigger.

  • Peter | December 10, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”304564″]One of the things I enjoy about this site is that its about sports, and I don’t have to hear about how bad my Islanders are doing…well, most of the time…[/quote]

    You think the Bridgeport Soundtigers would be playing worse than the Islanders? I think that they would be playing on par at least of the parent franchise (and as a Wolfpack fan, that kills me to say that…Pack suck this year…not as bad as the Amerks!)

  • JTH | December 10, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”304568″]Contrary to the article about the Yankees Top Hat logo, it is the Cardinals baseball team Cardinals on bat logo/sports trademark (first worn in 1921) that is by FAR the most recognized AND best logo in sports. See this Youtube link for origins: http://www.youtube.c...
    Although I hate the team itself, I love the Cardinals’ uniform and logos. But you’re completely delusional if you honestly believe the bird on bat logo is more recognizable than the Yankees’ top hat.

  • Namhob | December 10, 2008 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”304568″]Contrary to the article about the Yankees Top Hat logo, it is the Cardinals baseball team Cardinals on bat logo/sports trademark (first worn in 1921) that is by FAR the most recognized AND best logo in sports. See this Youtube link for origins: http://www.youtube.c...
    No way, the Yankees would make a claim that they have the most recognized and beloved logo in sports? That kind of arrogance just doesn’t fit their M.O. (To paraphrase in a popular German translation, “live Yankees, live”)

  • CAL | December 10, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”304561″][quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties

    …on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

    You mean take last place NHL team, move them to AHL and take AHL champ and move in NHL?

    AHL champ would get killed…[/quote]

    Agreed, you have to realize the talent shift from one level to the next, my friend is a rookie goalie with the Bridgeport Sound Tigers of the AHL this year and he got called up to the Islanders for a few games, he played 13 minutes in relief for Macdonald(spelling) against the Bruins and got shelled. He said it was ridiculous how much faster things happen. Before getting called up he was like 6-0-1 with a .916 save percentage and like a 1. something goals against so he is no slouch. On the same note, as a goalie i used to skate with the Penguins during there conditioning camp for a month before training camp starts, the worst guy on the team at the time was Steve McKenna and he was incredible and he could’nt skate to save his life compared to everyone else there. Thank god during drills and scrimmages and stuff that they only skated at MAYBE half speed or i would have been hating life.
    So i agree that the champion AHL team would get destroyed against an NHL team.

  • War Damn Eagle | December 10, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    I don’t think those Ravens jackets were lavender. They looked grey to me. It’s a glossy material, so maybe that, when surrounded by so many purple accents, made the jacket appear lavender. A lot of other teams were wearing similarly colored puffy jackets this past Sunday. The Jags and Bears coaches both wore grey jackets.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    http://sports.yahoo....

    I’m sorry, but Lovie Smith and Jon Harbaugh are wearing the same color – grey.

  • dgc | December 10, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”304560″][quote comment=”304546″][quote comment=”304545″]Watched the NYI and PHI game last night in hopes to see at least ONE of the two teams third jerseys in action. Result: nothing. Crappy NYI uni and crappy PHI black jersey. Son of a bitch… good game though.[/quote]

    tuesday night game on local tv? no way were they wasting those beauties[/quote]

    …on another note, the Isles wasted yet another lead…how about the NHL start a regulating /promoting system with the AHL ( iknow that will NEVER happpen)…only take the Champion and bump them up and take the last place NHL and dump them![/quote]

    I think promotion/regulation and a minor league system simply can’t mix. What happens when the promoted team’s NHL parent needs to recall players?

  • skott daltonic | December 10, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    the sports logo that most people around the world know immediately?

    imo:

    a. the dallas cowboys.
    b. the NY yankees logo.
    c. the brazil kit.

    (ps. i am not a fan of any of those teams, i just think that if you asked a random person in Barcelona or Hong Kong or Lima or Johanasburg, someone in those cities will know one of those logos, if not two or all three)

  • Peter | December 10, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    I’m not saying the AHL team would win it all, but they certainly would be no worse than the Lightning or Senators this year…it would also make signing players a bit more interesting…

    I know the AHL is not as fast/intense as the NHL, but watching some of these teams (like the Blue Jackets) are just as far away from the Stanley Cup as the Hershey Bears…

  • Johnny O | December 10, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    Want to see someone actually whack a weenie? Remember Randall Simon?

    http://graphics.json...

    (notice the Pittsburgh throwbacks too)

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    Damn, can’t believe I missed this auction – that’s the lowest price I’ve ever seen for a Packers sideline cap.

  • Rick MD | December 10, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    I agree that the Ravens coaches jackets were grey. I was at the game and later watched it on TV. Plus it was really, really cold out so the puffier the better. I was also the first to comment on the Sun article yesterday.

  • JTH | December 10, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”304576″]the sports logo that most people around the world know immediately?

    imo:

    a. the dallas cowboys.
    [/quote]
    Outside of North America? Not a fucking chance.

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”304577″]I’m not saying the AHL team would win it all, but they certainly would be no worse than the Lightning or Senators this year…it would also make signing players a bit more interesting…

    I know the AHL is not as fast/intense as the NHL, but watching some of these teams (like the Blue Jackets) are just as far away from the Stanley Cup as the Hershey Bears…[/quote]

    CBJ would kill the Bears. The TBL would tear apart any AHL team. The skill/size is that different

    TB might not be very good right now, but they have NHL TALENT on the team. There is a reason why Hershey Bears is full of AHL players…. they’re AHL talent, not NHL.

  • Randy Miller | December 10, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    The Bills’ Whammy Weenie was an idea lifted from an old Pittsburgh Pirates tradition in the mid-’60s. Radio guy Bob Prince began touting the “power of the Green Weenie,” which was a phrase used by Pittsburgh trainer Danny Whelan, according to Wikipedia. Some enterprising person manufactured some plastic green weenies with a rattle inside.

    The Pirates and Prince failed to trademark the Green Weenie. Not ready for Reebok, apparently.

  • dgc | December 10, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”304582″][quote comment=”304577″]I’m not saying the AHL team would win it all, but they certainly would be no worse than the Lightning or Senators this year…it would also make signing players a bit more interesting…

    I know the AHL is not as fast/intense as the NHL, but watching some of these teams (like the Blue Jackets) are just as far away from the Stanley Cup as the Hershey Bears…[/quote]

    CBJ would kill the Bears. The TBL would tear apart any AHL team. The skill/size is that different

    TB might not be very good right now, but they have NHL TALENT on the team. There is a reason why Hershey Bears is full of AHL players…. they’re AHL talent, not NHL.[/quote]

    Well, the Caps are so banged up that most of the starting D are Hershey callups and they’ve been shuttling assorted forwards between Hershey and DC. Put Ovechkin on the Bears and you approximately have the same team.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”304576″]the sports logo that most people around the world know immediately?

    imo:

    a. the dallas cowboys.
    b. the NY yankees logo.
    c. the brazil kit.

    (ps. i am not a fan of any of those teams, i just think that if you asked a random person in Barcelona or Hong Kong or Lima or Johanasburg, someone in those cities will know one of those logos, if not two or all three)[/quote]

    what about man u?

    and i gotta agree with JTH that the cowboys aren’t all that recognizable in, say, durbin, australia

  • Wes | December 10, 2008 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”304574″]I don’t think those Ravens jackets were lavender. They looked grey to me. It’s a glossy material, so maybe that, when surrounded by so many purple accents, made the jacket appear lavender. A lot of other teams were wearing similarly colored puffy jackets this past Sunday. The Jags and Bears coaches both wore grey jackets.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    http://sports.yahoo....

    I’m sorry, but Lovie Smith and Jon Harbaugh are wearing the same color – grey.[/quote]

    [quote comment=\”304574\”]I don\’t think those Ravens jackets were lavender. They looked grey to me. It\’s a glossy material, so maybe that, when surrounded by so many purple accents, made the jacket appear lavender. A lot of other teams were wearing similarly colored puffy jackets this past Sunday. The Jags and Bears coaches both wore grey jackets.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    http://sports.yahoo....

    I\’m sorry, but Lovie Smith and Jon Harbaugh are wearing the same color – grey.[/quote]

    Thanks for posting pics. I had heard about this but hadn’t actually seen the jackets. They look pretty gray to me (or is it grey?)

  • Blake | December 10, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    Not to rehash something that has already been discussed, but I personally was a big fan of the ACU (camo) helmets that were used on Saturday for Army during the Army/Navy game. I may be biased since I was one who actually worked on the helmets and helped keep it a secret, but the thing that will stick out in my head throughout the whole process is how much the players and people involved with the football team LOVED the product! The team could not wait to put on the uniforms in front of America.

    For those that are interested, All of the helmets are being auctioned off to the highest bidder. You will be able to find it under the Online Auctions link at http://www.GoArmySpo....

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”304584″][quote comment=”304582″][quote comment=”304577″]I’m not saying the AHL team would win it all, but they certainly would be no worse than the Lightning or Senators this year…it would also make signing players a bit more interesting…

    I know the AHL is not as fast/intense as the NHL, but watching some of these teams (like the Blue Jackets) are just as far away from the Stanley Cup as the Hershey Bears…[/quote]

    CBJ would kill the Bears. The TBL would tear apart any AHL team. The skill/size is that different

    TB might not be very good right now, but they have NHL TALENT on the team. There is a reason why Hershey Bears is full of AHL players…. they’re AHL talent, not NHL.[/quote]

    Well, the Caps are so banged up that most of the starting D are Hershey callups and they’ve been shuttling assorted forwards between Hershey and DC. Put Ovechkin on the Bears and you approximately have the same team.[/quote]

    Some teams like WAS have very good players in the minors. DET has very good players in their AHL affilatte in Grand Rapids. But it’s only a handful of players that can hang with NHL. Take that WHOLE team and move them up and it would be brutal.

  • Paul Lukas | December 10, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”304587″]They look pretty gray to me (or is it grey?)[/quote]

    “Gray” in America, “grey” in England. Easy to remember — “a” for America, “e” for England.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

  • DenverGregg | December 10, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”304557″]Colorado College (alma mater of Gregg Easterbrook) is a private liberal arts school in Colorado Springs. The Tigers wear black and orange and still compete in big time college hockey.

    CC wears black and gold, actually.[/quote]
    My bad. The hockey kit looked black and orange to me last time I saw them, but if they say it’s gold, so be it.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”304549″]I asked the same question about that Jerry Rhome Cowboys helmet, on a game used equipment forum I attend, and our resident helmet expert, a.k.a. Robert, had a very insightful response:

    http://www.greenglar...

    Wow, your friend will forget more than I’ll ever know about helmets.

  • Perry | December 10, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    • Awesome 1911 U. of Colorado uni here. I love that they threw in the pennant (full listing).

    No way. As the “full listing” says and others have pointed out, that’s a Colorado College jersey (which is NOT the Univ. of Colorado) and a pennant from Colorado Agricultural College (which is now Colorado State U.).

  • Concerned Citizen | December 10, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    Quick Google search found this article regarding global sports brands… mostly apparel manufactures (Nike was first), but notice the Man U comment:

    this article on global sports brand recognition (Nike #1), but check the Man U comment…

  • Concerned Citizen | December 10, 2008 at 10:40 am |
  • John T | December 10, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”304585″][quote comment=”304576″]the sports logo that most people around the world know immediately?

    imo:

    a. the dallas cowboys.
    b. the NY yankees logo.
    c. the brazil kit.

    (ps. i am not a fan of any of those teams, i just think that if you asked a random person in Barcelona or Hong Kong or Lima or Johanasburg, someone in those cities will know one of those logos, if not two or all three)[/quote]

    what about man u?

    and i gotta agree with JTH that the cowboys aren’t all that recognizable in, say, durbin, australia[/quote]

    Living abroad (Ireland) I can say that no one would know the cowboys, but Yankee gear can be bought in any sport shop. They would be the top US team, no one even close

    Top Global brands would be

    Real Madrid
    Barcelona
    Inter Milan and AC Milan
    Man u
    and
    The All Blacks

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Oops, Morten wore a grAy facemask while with the GIANTS.

    Please don’t put me in this again:

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • u2-horn | December 10, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”304598″]

    Please don’t put me in this again:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Would it be a really stupid question to ask if you always match your shoes with your shirt?

  • skott daltonic | December 10, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    wasn’t really putting them in order, just saying that those would be the big three.
    i agree w/ ManU, i forgot about them.

    also, on WEEI today Larry L talked about the new sox gear:

    Jon Meterparel: Big announcement tomorrow night. A new uniform? Is that correct?

    Larry Lucchino: Well there’s an adjustment to the road uniforms that will touch upon Red Sox tradition. It’s a little back to the future kind of thing and there will be some adjustments to the logo as well so both items are going to be announced tomorrow (Thursday, December 11).

  • Beardface | December 10, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    Most recognizable logos/unis in sports…

    1. Yankees
    2. Man U
    3. Brazil Soccer
    4. Soviet Red Army hockey
    5. USA Basketball

    Honorable mention: Boston Red Sox, Real Madrid, England Soccer, Argentine Soccer, New Zealand All-blacks, Dallas Cowboys, Montreal Canadians

  • skott daltonic | December 10, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.

  • M.Princip | December 10, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    Well, I wasn’t at the game, however, did see it high def. and must disagree that the Ravens coats were simply gray. There definitely was a smidgen of lavender in that gray. Not a deep lavender, however, a light lavender. So, machismo football heads get over it, and get in touch with your light lavender side.

    http://www.greenglar...

  • Namhob | December 10, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”304577″]Some teams like WAS have very good players in the minors. DET has very good players in their AHL affilatte in Grand Rapids. But it’s only a handful of players that can hang with NHL. Take that WHOLE team and move them up and it would be brutal.[/quote]
    You’re also comparing the immediate result – NHL team vs. AHL team. If such a promotion/relegation system were ever adopted, NHL-ready players who might not get regular playing time at the top level might be more willing to kick some ass in the AHL before being promoted the next season.

    Plus promoted teams tend to increase their payroll once they move to a higher division to attract stars. At least that’s how it works in England.

    All of this is purely conversational because the U.S. (and Canada) would NEVER adopt a sports model used by another country, much less jolly old England.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”304599″][quote comment=”304598″]

    Please don’t put me in this again:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Would it be a really stupid question to ask if you always match your shoes with your shirt?[/quote]

    Almost always if not the shirt(s) with the shoes.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Or a jacket:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Even a Robe:

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • The Fonz | December 10, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    so two things:

    1 – the reebook logo on the t-shirt reminds me of how majestic ruined the mlb player shirts..you cant buy a mets, yankees, red sox, or any other player shirt without having the little majestic logo above the chest..it’s hideous

    2 – are those long sleeved bp jerseys going to be used? also don’t they seema bnit useless since players have the therma base fleece anyway( which i actually like)?

  • Duck | December 10, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    I know only from what my foreign colleagues have told me when talkin sports, but the only American teams’ logos that are/were recognizable outside this hemisphere are the Yankees and ,during the 90’s, the Bulls.

  • Ben | December 10, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society!

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    Apparently:

    http://www.uniwatchb...

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”304604″][quote comment=”304577″]Some teams like WAS have very good players in the minors. DET has very good players in their AHL affilatte in Grand Rapids. But it’s only a handful of players that can hang with NHL. Take that WHOLE team and move them up and it would be brutal.[/quote]
    You’re also comparing the immediate result – NHL team vs. AHL team. If such a promotion/relegation system were ever adopted, NHL-ready players who might not get regular playing time at the top level might be more willing to kick some ass in the AHL before being promoted the next season.

    Plus promoted teams tend to increase their payroll once they move to a higher division to attract stars. At least that’s how it works in England.

    All of this is purely conversational because the U.S. (and Canada) would NEVER adopt a sports model used by another country, much less jolly old England.[/quote]

    Agree with you there, it would never work but it’s a good debate. I’m just saying, for 75%-85% of the players in AHL, there is a reason why they are in the AHL, they’re not good enough.

  • John T | December 10, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

    Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

    http://inter.sina.co...

  • Peter | December 10, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    What has NYC ever done to you?

    also: by say that, you are essentially say “F UW” you realize…

  • Big Game James | December 10, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    Just to follow up on the Red Sox road uniforms, you can read all about it on WEEI’s website on the Behind the Glass blog. It’s got all of Lucchino’s comments about the logo and uniform changes as well as a link to the audio so you can hear it for yourself!

  • War Damn Eagle | December 10, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    Is there a Cal bear paw logo on the shoulders of Jahvid Best’s uni? Very subtle, but it’s there.

    http://sportsillustr...

    http://www.chriscrea...

  • John T | December 10, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”304611″][quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

    Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

    http://inter.sina.co...

    Barcelona
    http://fcbarcelona.t...

    AC Milan
    http://www.acmilan.c...

    you get the picture…..

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”304611″][quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

    Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

    http://inter.sina.co...

    I couldn’t tell ANY soccer logos from a hole in the ground… would have no clue.

  • Flip | December 10, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”304549″]I asked the same question about that Jerry Rhome Cowboys helmet, on a game used equipment forum I attend, and our resident helmet expert, a.k.a. Robert, had a very insightful response:

    http://www.greenglar...
    Loved that Falcons helmet.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”304612″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    What has NYC ever done to you?

    also: by say that, you are essentially say “F UW” you realize…[/quote]

    au contraire

    check out the link powers posted (#70)

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Might have better luck searching for Rhome images while he was at Tulsa. He got a lot more playing time–and coverage—then, back when he was throwing to Howard Twilley all the time.

    —Ricko

  • Paul Lukas | December 10, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Duh — lots of people wore that Dungard mask. But most of them (including Anderson) wore it lower than the one shown in the auction.

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    Yeah, I kinda remembered Charlie Johnson wearing one with the Cardinals, too.

    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”304612″]also: by say that, you are essentially say “F UW” you realize…[/quote]

    actually…UW was saying FU to the yanks

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    That high, I meant.

  • John T | December 10, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”304616″][quote comment=”304611″][quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

    Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

    http://inter.sina.co...

    I couldn’t tell ANY soccer logos from a hole in the ground… would have no clue.[/quote]

    Jim,

    This might be more to your liking

    http://www.fcbarcelo...

  • Peter | December 10, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”304623″][quote comment=”304612″]also: by say that, you are essentially say “F UW” you realize…[/quote]

    actually…UW was saying FU to the yanks[/quote]

    I realize that, its just can take just about anything, but saying FU to the City of NY and all that comes with, usually oversteps things with me…

    oh, well…back to UNI’s…

    I always thought the original Blue Jackets logowas of AHL quality

  • Paul Lukas | December 10, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”304622″]Yeah, I kinda remembered Charlie Johnson wearing one with the Cardinals, too.

    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oh, wow — now THAT’S high placement!

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”304625″][quote comment=”304616″][quote comment=”304611″][quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

    Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

    http://inter.sina.co...

    I couldn’t tell ANY soccer logos from a hole in the ground… would have no clue.[/quote]

    Jim,

    This might be more to your liking

    http://www.fcbarcelo...

    There ya go!!

    Their uni template kinda look like ATLs, with one sleeve on color and the other a different color. Love that crest though.

  • M.Princip | December 10, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”304622″]Yeah, I kinda remembered Charlie Johnson wearing one with the Cardinals, too.

    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Great find! Also, an MH100 clear shell.

  • Teebz | December 10, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”304626″]
    I always thought the original Blue Jackets logowas of AHL quality[/quote]

    Kind of like how the new Coyotes is. Or the new Kings logo is.

    Or how Dallas and Atlanta’s new alternate look like NCAA teams.

    Or how Atlanta’s baby blue jersey would be better served as curtain’s in a baby’s room.

    Did I just go off on a tangent? LOL

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”304625″][quote comment=”304616″][quote comment=”304611″][quote comment=”304602″]oh, and i’d say that not many people in china or even the us are going to know what Barcelona or the italian club teams logos are w/out some heads up.[/quote]

    Maybe this would help them, Asia market is huge for football

    http://inter.sina.co...

    I couldn’t tell ANY soccer logos from a hole in the ground… would have no clue.[/quote]

    Jim,

    This might be more to your liking

    http://www.fcbarcelo...

    Yeah, but the coolest thing is that when you play for them you get to be listed as an “hombre.” Not a lot of “hockey hombres” around the U.S. and Canada.

    Well, except maybe for Teebz.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”304627″][quote comment=”304622″]Yeah, I kinda remembered Charlie Johnson wearing one with the Cardinals, too.

    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Oh, wow — now THAT’S high placement![/quote]

    WTF are those things sticking out of the side? corks?

    looks like this, kinda

  • John Paul Jones | December 10, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society!

    I’m pretty sure that complaining about sports franchises instead of complaing about, i dunno, the auto bailout or the continued devaluation of the dollar is all that’s wrong with society. AND there are plenty of folks in NYC who don’t like the Yankees, so calm down there fella.

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    ohdarn. Says “nombre”. Trouble with Uni Watching at work, can’t give it full attention.

    I still think Teebz is a hockey hombre, though.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    quote comment=\”304629\”][quote comment=\”304622\”]Yeah, I kinda remembered Charlie Johnson wearing one with the Cardinals, too.

    http://vault.sportsi...

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Great find! Also, an MH100 clear shell.[/quote]

    I have asked this before…but were those clear shells the forefathers of the Bike/AiR/Schutts of today?

  • Johnny O | December 10, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees, but instead, is becoming one of them today. I blame the MLB players union because they told him if he didn’t take the deal from the Yanks they would be really pissed with him. And put way too much pressure on him.

    I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million? The living costs in New York far exceed those of Milwaukee. The pressure of the New York media is relentless, and the expectations are way too high. In Milwaukee, CC would have been treated like royalty. You have a team in the Brewers who get an entire state excited when they make the playoffs for the first time in 26 years, while the Yankees don’t make the playoffs for the first time since ’93 and the “world is coming to an end” and it’s the headline in many papers across the country. And God forbid the Yankees haven’t won a World Series in a few years so something must be wrong with the organization, so let’s throw insane amount of cash at the biggest free agents every year just because we can.

    *sigh* Sorry, rant over. This of course coming from a disgruntled Brewer fan. This is just the first of many bad things to happen this week. I am sure the Cubs will land a few top free agents this week or next, and then it’s back to fighting for the basement in the NL Central with the Pirates.

  • ScottyJ in WV | December 10, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    Bob Griese wore that style, and kinda high in my estimation….

    http://vault.sportsi...

    speaking of facemasks, helmets, Griese and whatnot, I always like the nose piece that my favorite player Larry Csonka had on his helmet….

    http://vault.sportsi...

    By the way, what a picture!!! Kiick, Csonka, & Morris! Too cool!

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Yeah, but with the cost of living in NY and all, it won’t last long.
    (insert serious eyeroll here)

  • Teebz | December 10, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)

  • mike 2 | December 10, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    One of the reasons a relegation system would never work is business – NHL franchises might not be worth that much compared to MLB or NFL but what would it do to franchise values if there’s a risk that you won’t even be in the NHL anymore? As an NHL owner are you going to spend hundreds of millions on a franchise and arena if you run the risk of having one bad year and going to the minors?

    Second business reason – are you going to replace Toronto, Montreal, LA, New York in the NHL with Albany, Moline, Peoria and Des Moines? Not very major league?

  • silentfrank | December 10, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”304603″]Well, I wasn’t at the game, however, did see it high def. and must disagree that the Ravens coats were simply gray. There definitely was a smidgen of lavender in that gray. Not a deep lavender, however, a light lavender. So, machismo football heads get over it, and get in touch with your light lavender side.

    http://www.greenglar...

    I’m wondering if the purple in the logo and trim creates a visual perception of lavender whereas it’s really gray (I know there there’s some fancy word for this, but I can’t think of it right off the bat). I suppose playing around with Photoshop could help dig into this further, but alas I don’t have it with me right now.

    Even covering the trim and logo in the photo it looked slightly lavender to me, but wouldn’t be shocked if it was gray.

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”304639″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Yeah, but with the cost of living in NY and all, it won’t last long.
    (insert serious eyeroll here)[/quote]

    Yeah Taxi’s are expensive…. :)

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”304642″][quote comment=”304603″]Well, I wasn’t at the game, however, did see it high def. and must disagree that the Ravens coats were simply gray. There definitely was a smidgen of lavender in that gray. Not a deep lavender, however, a light lavender. So, machismo football heads get over it, and get in touch with your light lavender side.

    http://www.greenglar...

    I’m wondering if the purple in the logo and trim creates a visual perception of lavender whereas it’s really gray (I know there there’s some fancy word for this, but I can’t think of it right off the bat). I suppose playing around with Photoshop could help dig into this further, but alas I don’t have it with me right now.

    Even covering the trim and logo in the photo it looked slightly lavender to me, but wouldn’t be shocked if it was gray.[/quote]

    The “grays”* are standard NFL issue this year, aren’t they?

    (* not to be confused with the “grays” taken to Area 51; that was a topic yesterday)

  • Peter | December 10, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”304641″]One of the reasons a relegation system would never work is business – NHL franchises might not be worth that much compared to MLB or NFL but what would it do to franchise values if there’s a risk that you won’t even be in the NHL anymore? As an NHL owner are you going to spend hundreds of millions on a franchise and arena if you run the risk of having one bad year and going to the minors?

    Second business reason – are you going to replace Toronto, Montreal, LA, New York in the NHL with Albany, Moline, Peoria and Des Moines? Not very major league?[/quote]

    Seattle supersonics got replaced (or moved) to OKC…OKC is not very major league…

    Let a market grow…Green Bay would never have an NFL team today (if they didn’t previously have one, based on market size)…but yet…They have one of the most profitable franchises…

    When the NHL went to Columbus…that wasn’t a MAJOR League city like Cleveland….let a market surprise you…

    (and DC, for example….is failing at baseball a 3rd time…so you can’t just base it off who hasa major league/major sports team in the big 4)

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees, but instead, is becoming one of them today. I blame the MLB players union because they told him if he didn’t take the deal from the Yanks they would be really pissed with him. And put way too much pressure on him.

    I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million? The living costs in New York far exceed those of Milwaukee. The pressure of the New York media is relentless, and the expectations are way too high. In Milwaukee, CC would have been treated like royalty. You have a team in the Brewers who get an entire state excited when they make the playoffs for the first time in 26 years, while the Yankees don’t make the playoffs for the first time since ’93 and the “world is coming to an end” and it’s the headline in many papers across the country. And God forbid the Yankees haven’t won a World Series in a few years so something must be wrong with the organization, so let’s throw insane amount of cash at the biggest free agents every year just because we can.

    *sigh* Sorry, rant over. This of course coming from a disgruntled Brewer fan. This is just the first of many bad things to happen this week. I am sure the Cubs will land a few top free agents this week or next, and then it’s back to fighting for the basement in the NL Central with the Pirates.[/quote]

    Johnny O…I agree wholeheartedly and I feel for pain.

    I am no Brewers fan, but a baseball fan that lives 20 minutes away from both Yankee Stadiums!

    I once rooted for the Yankees and enjoyed the type of baseball they played.

    Those Yankees are long gone, and thanks to Buster Olney, there is a great book explaining when and why the dynasty crumbled.

    For me, the death knell sounded when they signed Johnny Damon. Loyalty was an idea of the past and the almighty dollar reigned supreme.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”304643″]Yeah Taxi’s are expensive…. :)[/quote]

    and they can change the fortunes of entire franchises

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    Uni-related. What are the chances that Sabathia will set the all-time record for most pinstripes on a pair of Yankee pants?

  • M.Princip | December 10, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”304642″][quote comment=”304603″]Well, I wasn’t at the game, however, did see it high def. and must disagree that the Ravens coats were simply gray. There definitely was a smidgen of lavender in that gray. Not a deep lavender, however, a light lavender. So, machismo football heads get over it, and get in touch with your light lavender side.

    http://www.greenglar...

    I’m wondering if the purple in the logo and trim creates a visual perception of lavender whereas it’s really gray (I know there there’s some fancy word for this, but I can’t think of it right off the bat). I suppose playing around with Photoshop could help dig into this further, but alas I don’t have it with me right now.

    Even covering the trim and logo in the photo it looked slightly lavender to me, but wouldn’t be shocked if it was gray.[/quote]

    In my opinion, there were no color tricks, and you don’t neeed to adjust your TV sets. They were a light lavenderish/gray. As opposed to what most gray consists of, which is a blueish hue.

  • LarenR | December 10, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”304636″]The pressure of the New York media is relentless, and the expectations are way too high. In Milwaukee, CC would have been treated like royalty. You have a team in the Brewers who get an entire state excited when they make the playoffs for the first time in 26 years, while the Yankees don’t make the playoffs for the first time since ’93 and the “world is coming to an end” and it’s the headline in many papers across the country. And God forbid the Yankees haven’t won a World Series in a few years so something must be wrong with the organization, so let’s throw insane amount of cash at the biggest free agents every year just because we can.
    [/quote]
    First two paragraphs of Olney’s blog sum it up nicely:
    “If all goes well with the last bits of negotiation between CC Sabathia and the Yankees, he will receive at least two standing ovations before he throws the first pitch ever at the new Yankee Stadium. The first will come when he walks out to the bullpen for pregame warm-ups, the second when he steps out of the dugout to take the field.
    After that, the Yankees and their fans will expect nothing less than greatness. If he delivers anything less than a championship, if he doesn’t win big in October, he will be deemed a failure. Such is the bargain that’s struck when you choose to play in New York.”

  • Leo | December 10, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”304640″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)[/quote]

    I thought that the Florida teams didn’t have as high of pay rolls as everyone else was because they didn’t have to pay state income taxes.

  • silentfrank | December 10, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”304649″][quote comment=”304642″][quote comment=”304603″]Well, I wasn’t at the game, however, did see it high def. and must disagree that the Ravens coats were simply gray. There definitely was a smidgen of lavender in that gray. Not a deep lavender, however, a light lavender. So, machismo football heads get over it, and get in touch with your light lavender side.

    http://www.greenglar...

    I’m wondering if the purple in the logo and trim creates a visual perception of lavender whereas it’s really gray (I know there there’s some fancy word for this, but I can’t think of it right off the bat). I suppose playing around with Photoshop could help dig into this further, but alas I don’t have it with me right now.

    Even covering the trim and logo in the photo it looked slightly lavender to me, but wouldn’t be shocked if it was gray.[/quote]

    In my opinion, there were no color tricks, and you don’t neeed to adjust your TV sets. They were a light lavenderish/gray. As opposed to what most gray consists of, which is a blueish hue.[/quote]

    Well, found a program that get the RGB values for the pixels of the mentioned image, did a few sample points and the green was the lowest value for all my sample (usually about 80% or so of what the red values were, which were the highest).

    What is weird is the blue values were much closer to the green values than the red. I think of purple being even red and blue, and the purple trim and logo RGB values were much more blue dominant than red…

    So from all of this, I’ll conclude the jacket wasn’t a perfect gray. Anything beyond that is up for grabs.

  • Bill | December 10, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    Scroll down on this page. There’s an additional mock up as to what was on the Chris Creamer boards for the Red Sox. If they go to this, I think I’m a fan.

    http://www.outincent...

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”304651″][quote comment=”304640″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)[/quote]

    I thought that the Florida teams didn’t have as high of pay rolls as everyone else was because they didn’t have to pay state income taxes.[/quote]

    Huh? It should be so simple. Players are taxed even when they play on the road (in most states), for the money they earn IN THAT STATE. Players’ tax returns are a nightmare. Personally, I think that’s one reason Twins want more games with Yankees. A-Rod, for example, is a helluva taxpayer wherever he plays. Means, theoretically, they could ask for more stadium money from State Gov’t. Y’know, as in, “It’s there because we play here!”

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”304651″][quote comment=”304640″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)[/quote]

    I thought that the Florida teams didn’t have as high of pay rolls as everyone else was because they didn’t have to pay state income taxes.[/quote]
    Players are taxed based on both where they play and where their residence is. The team’s home state may or may not be a player’s official residence.

  • david stoops | December 10, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    Bob Griese wore a mask like that as well.
    So yes you were right about Bradshaw wearing it.
    And that is the pretty much proper placement. I put one on a helmet and that was pretty much where you had to put it in order for it to be some what protective.

  • Johnny O | December 10, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?[/quote]

    Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?[/quote]

    Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?

  • kandor5 | December 10, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    On the facemask issue: That mask is positioned properly. My Dad used to sell those things, and I wore won in college way back in the 70’s. The one Bradshaw used to wear in the pros and I used to wear had extensions that extended up laterally and across the face opening of the helmet to bolt into either side of the front bumper.

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”304652″][quote comment=”304649″][quote comment=”304642″][quote comment=”304603″]Well, I wasn’t at the game, however, did see it high def. and must disagree that the Ravens coats were simply gray. There definitely was a smidgen of lavender in that gray. Not a deep lavender, however, a light lavender. So, machismo football heads get over it, and get in touch with your light lavender side.

    http://www.greenglar...

    I’m wondering if the purple in the logo and trim creates a visual perception of lavender whereas it’s really gray (I know there there’s some fancy word for this, but I can’t think of it right off the bat). I suppose playing around with Photoshop could help dig into this further, but alas I don’t have it with me right now.

    Even covering the trim and logo in the photo it looked slightly lavender to me, but wouldn’t be shocked if it was gray.[/quote]

    In my opinion, there were no color tricks, and you don’t neeed to adjust your TV sets. They were a light lavenderish/gray. As opposed to what most gray consists of, which is a blueish hue.[/quote]

    Well, found a program that get the RGB values for the pixels of the mentioned image, did a few sample points and the green was the lowest value for all my sample (usually about 80% or so of what the red values were, which were the highest).

    What is weird is the blue values were much closer to the green values than the red. I think of purple being even red and blue, and the purple trim and logo RGB values were much more blue dominant than red…

    So from all of this, I’ll conclude the jacket wasn’t a perfect gray. Anything beyond that is up for grabs.[/quote]

    Lemme see if I’ve got this straight. NFL sideline gear is standardized, ordered from specific suppliers to specific standard, um…specifications every season.

    This year, the neutral color for winter outerwear is gray. For everyone.

    Except the Ravens. The NFL ordered a lovely lavender shade for them.

    Yup, that makes sense.

    I remember people who-watching Vikings on TV–would swear the Vikings unis were navy, especially during first years in Dome when the lighting wasn’t as good and before TV cameras were digital. Lighting can fool you.

    It’s like those folks who still try to tell us the Yankees hats are black.

    No, they’re not. But they sure as hell do look like they are sometimes.

  • ScottyJ in WV | December 10, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”304656″][quote comment=”304651″][quote comment=”304640″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)[/quote]

    I thought that the Florida teams didn’t have as high of pay rolls as everyone else was because they didn’t have to pay state income taxes.[/quote]
    Players are taxed based on both where they play and where their residence is. The team’s home state may or may not be a player’s official residence.[/quote]

    That’s mostly right. Some states have a time or source component in the tax code that determines whether or not someone has to file and pay in that state.

    For instance, in WV, you have to physically be here more than 30 total days during the year to be required to file as a part-year resident. Also, if you have source income from WV, you’re required to file as a non resident.

  • Seth H | December 10, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    “It should be noted that the Feds apparently offered him some time to get ready so that he could put on a suit for his court appearance. He chose to wear that instead.”

    It means he consulted his attorney, who told him what to wear.

    If you wear a suit they take away your tie, your belt and your shoelaces, i.e., things that you can use to choke others or yourself, when you are taken to be processed. That means you show up in court with your pants sagging down around your butt. (FYI, this is the genesis of people intentionally wearing their pants around their butt. They are emulating prisoners.)

    A good defense lawyer will tell his client to wear an outfit without a belt, etc., that will keep the client warm in what can be a cold holding area, and that the client can easily wash/throw away after use.

  • Rob Brown | December 10, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    Here is another obscure question.
    I am looking for a good picture of the “pride sticker” which was in the shape of a paw, the Arizona Wildcats football team had on their helmets in the late 1980’s. The picture needs to be clear enough that I can see exactly what the paw shape and color were. Thanks for any help, this site is great.

  • Teebz | December 10, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”304659″]
    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    Well…

    Steinbrenner does bare a resemblance to Emperor Palpatine. And Cashman uses “The Force” to get what he wants (except championships).

    I’d sign with UA only if I could be the suave Han Solo and work to bring down the Empire and their evil Death Star-dium. Someone else can carry the load a la Skywalker. Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi… Powers, wanna be Skywalker? ;o) LOL

  • Teebz | December 10, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”304665″][quote comment=”304659″]
    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    Well…

    Steinbrenner does bear a resemblance to Emperor Palpatine. And Cashman uses “The Force” to get what he wants (except championships).

    I’d sign with UA only if I could be the suave Han Solo and work to bring down the Empire and their evil Death Star-dium. Someone else can carry the load a la Skywalker. Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi… Powers, wanna be Skywalker? ;o) LOL[/quote]

    Bare? Bear? Cripes… I need a nap.

    Oh look! It’s lunchtime!

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    That’s what I was getting at – even non-residents must file tax returns for any state in which they make money. Athletes’ accountants are kept very busy.

    But in any case, the lack of Florida state income tax has no bearing on the size of club payrolls.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”304662″][quote comment=”304656″][quote comment=”304651″][quote comment=”304640″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)[/quote]

    I thought that the Florida teams didn’t have as high of pay rolls as everyone else was because they didn’t have to pay state income taxes.[/quote]
    Players are taxed based on both where they play and where their residence is. The team’s home state may or may not be a player’s official residence.[/quote]

    That’s mostly right. Some states have a time or source component in the tax code that determines whether or not someone has to file and pay in that state.

    For instance, in WV, you have to physically be here more than 30 total days during the year to be required to file as a part-year resident. Also, if you have source income from WV, you’re required to file as a non resident.[/quote]

    Or if you are missing 5 or less teeth ;)

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    “Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”304665″][quote comment=”304659″]
    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    Well…

    Steinbrenner does bare a resemblance to Emperor Palpatine. And Cashman uses “The Force” to get what he wants (except championships).

    I’d sign with UA only if I could be the suave Han Solo and work to bring down the Empire and their evil Death Star-dium. Someone else can carry the load a la Skywalker. Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi… Powers, wanna be Skywalker? ;o) LOL[/quote]

    I’m in…but I am NOT making out with Carrie Fisher:

    ttp://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Profiles/20060929/244.fisher.carrie.092706.jpg

    The Force hasn’t been too kind to her…her postcards can STAY at the edge.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”304671″][quote comment=”304665″][quote comment=”304659″]
    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    Well…

    Steinbrenner does bare a resemblance to Emperor Palpatine. And Cashman uses “The Force” to get what he wants (except championships).

    I’d sign with UA only if I could be the suave Han Solo and work to bring down the Empire and their evil Death Star-dium. Someone else can carry the load a la Skywalker. Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi… Powers, wanna be Skywalker? ;o) LOL[/quote]

    I’m in…but I am NOT making out with Carrie Fisher:

    http://images.eonlin...

    The Force hasn’t been too kind to her…her postcards can STAY at the edge.[/quote]

  • ScottyJ in WV | December 10, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”304668″][quote comment=”304662″][quote comment=”304656″][quote comment=”304651″][quote comment=”304640″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Or both payrolls of the Rays and the Marlins. :o)[/quote]

    I thought that the Florida teams didn’t have as high of pay rolls as everyone else was because they didn’t have to pay state income taxes.[/quote]
    Players are taxed based on both where they play and where their residence is. The team’s home state may or may not be a player’s official residence.[/quote]

    That’s mostly right. Some states have a time or source component in the tax code that determines whether or not someone has to file and pay in that state.

    For instance, in WV, you have to physically be here more than 30 total days during the year to be required to file as a part-year resident. Also, if you have source income from WV, you’re required to file as a non resident.[/quote]

    Or if you are missing 5 or less teeth ;)[/quote]

    C’mon, Matt. You can do better work than that. You’re money and you don’t even know it. :0)

  • Kevin M. | December 10, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    Try this once again. This is what I meant to put:

    By BCS ANNOUNCEMENT

    December 10, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

    BCS ANNOUNCES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II !

    US Ranked 4th

    After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.

    ” Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland , France , Norway , Sweden , Denmark , Belgium and the Netherlands . Their only losses came against the US and Russia; however considering their entire body of work—including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule—our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking.”

    Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated “The US only had two major victories— Japan and Germany . The computer models, unlike humans, aren’t influenced by head-to-head contests—they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event.”

    German Chancellor Adolph Hitler said “Yes, we lost to the US ; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks.” Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn ‘style points’ to enhance Germany ‘s rankings. Hitler protested “Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces.”

    The French ranking has also come under scrutiny. The BCS commented ” France had a single loss against Germany and following a preseason #1 ranking they only fell to #2.”

    Japan was ranked #3 with victories including Manchuria, Borneo and the Philippines .

    Sorry about all that other stuff

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    Han “Teebz” Solo, intergalactic hockey hombre and smuggler.

    And nerfherder.

    His ship has an unique, famous angle, like a curved hockey stick:
    The Millennium Fulcrum

    (okay, I’ll stop)

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    WAIT A MINUTE! Sign with UA…dudn’t my head explode yesterday? I’d take down the Yankees Evil Empire, not Beaverton’s.

    If that’s the case, then you might as well cast me as Darth Maul or Boba Fett.

    Wouldn’t Ricko be better suited to play Grandma Tarkin?

    http://www.firsttvdr...

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.

  • Perry | December 10, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Yeah, but as J. J. Gittes said to Noah Cross in Chinatown, How much better can he eat? What could he buy that he couldn’t already afford?

  • Timothy B | December 10, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    Don’t know if this was put out there yet, but in regards to the Isles throwback 3rd- they have been only wearing them for Saturday night home games. And since they are a “dark” (or not white) jersey, I’m thinking they will most always be worn for home games.

    In my honest, I think the Isles should adopt the 3rd jersey as their primary home jersey, create a similar one for road games, and then be done with the constant jersey tinkering.

  • JTH | December 10, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”304663″]”It should be noted that the Feds apparently offered him some time to get ready so that he could put on a suit for his court appearance. He chose to wear that instead.”

    It means he consulted his attorney, who told him what to wear.

    If you wear a suit they take away your tie, your belt and your shoelaces, i.e., things that you can use to choke others or yourself, when you are taken to be processed. That means you show up in court with your pants sagging down around your butt. (FYI, this is the genesis of people intentionally wearing their pants around their butt. They are emulating prisoners.)

    A good defense lawyer will tell his client to wear an outfit without a belt, etc., that will keep the client warm in what can be a cold holding area, and that the client can easily wash/throw away after use.[/quote]
    He doesn’t own a sweater and a pair of khakis?

  • Leo | December 10, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”304667″]That’s what I was getting at – even non-residents must file tax returns for any state in which they make money. Athletes’ accountants are kept very busy.

    But in any case, the lack of Florida state income tax has no bearing on the size of club payrolls.[/quote]

    This is one of life’s Jeff Dunham moments. I meant that entire thing as a joke, but all I’m getting now is ZOOM!

  • Butch | December 10, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”304574″]I don’t think those Ravens jackets were lavender. They looked grey to me. It’s a glossy material, so maybe that, when surrounded by so many purple accents, made the jacket appear lavender. A lot of other teams were wearing similarly colored puffy jackets this past Sunday. The Jags and Bears coaches both wore grey jackets.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    http://sports.yahoo....

    I’m sorry, but Lovie Smith and Jon Harbaugh are wearing the same color – grey.[/quote]

    I totally agree, why would the NFL make all the league’s coaches jackets gray but make the ravens’ a light shade of lavender?

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    I’m sorry, I just keep thinking about all those pinstripes on Sabathia’s pants. My god, they’ll go on…forever.

    Great bit for Sesame Street. Sabathia stands there in uniform while The Count points…

    “One!
    “Two!
    “Three!…”

  • Cheese | December 10, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    No wonder the Baltimore Sun is going out of business. The colorblind bastards can even do a fact check.

  • silentfrank | December 10, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    Ricko–

    Skipping the long quote about the Raven’s jacket… The “standards” and lighting points are more than fair caveats to my “grade school science lab project”. I was wondering if lighting had an effect myself after posting that. Only way to build or conclude on this is study more pics or look at the damned jacket itself. And I have to do some work :-P.

    I’m sure we’ll get a definative answer soon enough.

  • Teebz | December 10, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”304677″]WAIT A MINUTE! Sign with UA…dudn’t my head explode yesterday? I’d take down the Yankees Evil Empire, not Beaverton’s.

    If that’s the case, then you might as well cast me as Darth Maul or Boba Fett.

    Wouldn’t Ricko be better suited to play Grandma Tarkin?

    http://www.firsttvdr...

    I almost thought we had Powers as part of the rebel alliance! Damn!

    You’re good… Mattakin Skywalker. Well played. ;o)

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    Well played!

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”304680″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Yeah, but as J. J. Gittes said to Noah Cross in Chinatown, How much better can he eat?

    What could he buy that he couldn’t already afford?[/quote]

    JJ’s judgment wasn’t exactly vindicated, was it?

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?

  • Beardface | December 10, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”304675″]Try this once again. This is what I meant to put:

    By BCS ANNOUNCEMENT

    December 10, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

    BCS ANNOUNCES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II !

    US Ranked 4th

    After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.

    ” Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland , France , Norway , Sweden , Denmark , Belgium and the Netherlands . Their only losses came against the US and Russia; however considering their entire body of work—including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule—our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking.”

    Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated “The US only had two major victories— Japan and Germany . The computer models, unlike humans, aren’t influenced by head-to-head contests—they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event.”

    German Chancellor Adolph Hitler said “Yes, we lost to the US ; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks.” Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn ‘style points’ to enhance Germany ‘s rankings. Hitler protested “Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces.”

    The French ranking has also come under scrutiny. The BCS commented ” France had a single loss against Germany and following a preseason #1 ranking they only fell to #2.”

    Japan was ranked #3 with victories including Manchuria, Borneo and the Philippines .

    Sorry about all that other stuff[/quote]
    Unfortunately, the BCS does take late victories into account and weights them more than victories early on. The US would have already climbed into the Top 3 with the victory over #1 Germany, and would have vaulted itself to #1 with a convincing win over Japan by airing it out late in the game.

  • Lwiedy | December 10, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he

    We could go on forever criticizing the latest Star Wars flicks. It would make our Oregon/Yankee/Green dot debates seem like a prayer meeting.

  • Perry | December 10, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”304690″][quote comment=”304680″][quote comment=”304638″][quote]I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million?[/quote]

    im not real good with math, but i’d say about $51 million[/quote]

    Yeah, but as J. J. Gittes said to Noah Cross in Chinatown, How much better can he eat?

    What could he buy that he couldn’t already afford?[/quote]

    JJ’s judgment wasn’t exactly vindicated, was it?[/quote]

    On the contrary, had Cross not been so greedy, Evelyn would still have been deeply damaged by the incest, but at least she (and Hollis, and the old drunk who drowned) would have still been alive, and Jake wouldn’t be haunted by Evelyn’s memory for the rest of his life. There wouldn’t have been much of a movie in that, though, I’ll grant you that. :-)

  • JTH | December 10, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]
    That’s easily explainable. In his duels with Palpatine & Dooku and when he was about to get taken out by the clone troopers, he used the Force to compensate for his weakened physical condition. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    Of course, that leaves the door wide open to the question of why the hell Vader & Obi-Wan looked like statues during their duel on the Death Star.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

    You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.

  • Jeff P | December 10, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    As for the Detroit Winter Classic T-shirt, how about one of these,?

    No Reebok Logo. Dumb that it’s on a gray tee instead of a white one, but it looks good otherwise.

  • Dan | December 10, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”304581″][quote comment=”304576″]the sports logo that most people around the world know immediately?

    imo:

    a. the dallas cowboys.
    [/quote]
    Outside of North America? Not a fucking chance.[/quote]

    I find that a pretty unfounded comment considering how much of the world actually gets more football coverage than North America. But really, the Cowboys’ star is a world renowned sporting symbol and is far better recognised than you seem to think.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”304696″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]
    That’s easily explainable. In his duels with Palpatine & Dooku and when he was about to get taken out by the clone troopers, he used the Force to compensate for his weakened physical condition. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    Of course, that leaves the door wide open to the question of why the hell Vader & Obi-Wan looked like statues during their duel on the Death Star.[/quote]

    It is official…we are nerds to the second degree.

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”304698″]As for the Detroit Winter Classic T-shirt, how about one of these,?

    No Reebok Logo. Dumb that it’s on a gray tee instead of a white one, but it looks good otherwise.[/quote]

    No RBK logo? Don’t you win a trip to the Stanley Cup Finals now? :)

  • ChrisS | December 10, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    What about the Chicago Bulls for one of the most recognizable logos? Maybe not now, but I recall seeing a show about 10 years ago where they went all over the world and Michael Jordan was the most recognizable figure. Not sure how much the Bulls logo would carry over though, especially these days…

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”304701″][quote comment=”304698″]As for the Detroit Winter Classic T-shirt, how about one of these,?

    No Reebok Logo. Dumb that it’s on a gray tee instead of a white one, but it looks good otherwise.[/quote]

    No RBK logo? Don’t you win a trip to the Stanley Cup Finals now? :)[/quote]

    Wait. You’re not canadian are you……

  • Lwiedy | December 10, 2008 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

    You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.[/quote]

    Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
    http://www.iconsport...
    http://assets.nydail...
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    http://www.opengroup...(SC)Joe_Namath_Photo.jpg
    Did I leave any out?

  • Lwiedy | December 10, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

    You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.[/quote]

    Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
    http://www.iconsport...
    http://assets.nydail...
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    http://z.hubpages.co...
    Did I leave any out?
    (last image has been replaced)

  • Ray | December 10, 2008 at 1:57 pm |

    Hey…about that Dallas ‘unusual face mask placement’…didn’t Terry Bradshaw’s Steelers helmet have something similar? Curious?

  • torontoDbz | December 10, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    The Red Sox new road jerseys were up on MLB Shop last night but are now gone.

    They were really plain with BOSTON across the chest in really dark navy blue with no outline.

    Like this:
    http://exhibits.base...

    …Only the writing isn’t so plain.

  • Jim MI | December 10, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    So eariler Phil linked to a taxi injury, now snow blowers are getting into the mix…

    http://detnews.com/a...

  • sam | December 10, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

    Not 100 percent sure, but I think the last non-kicker to wear one of those facemasks was Trent Dilfer when he was with the Bucs (soory, no pics).

    I think it was only a one- or two-game thing. And I think it was Bradshaw that sent it to him. Dilfer was catching a lot of guff from Bucs fans for leading an offense that lagged behind their defense, and comparisons had been drawn (by some) to Bradshaw’s early career …

  • Mark in Shiga | December 10, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”304653″]Scroll down on this page. There’s an additional mock up as to what was on the Chris Creamer boards for the Red Sox. If they go to this, I think I’m a fan.

    http://www.outincent...

    While I’m not a fan of the skewed “BOSTON” on the front of the first jersey — it really is unfortunate when your city name is an even number of letters but you still want placket piping — I love the backs with the names removed, and, significantly, the number correctly positioned and not so far down the guy’s back that it looks totally unbalanced.

  • Duck | December 10, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”304700″][quote comment=”304696″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]
    That’s easily explainable. In his duels with Palpatine & Dooku and when he was about to get taken out by the clone troopers, he used the Force to compensate for his weakened physical condition. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    Of course, that leaves the door wide open to the question of why the hell Vader & Obi-Wan looked like statues during their duel on the Death Star.[/quote]

    It is official…we are nerds to the second degree.[/quote]

    This is even harder to get thru than hockey talk. And makes me glad I’ve never seen a Stars Wars movie.

  • Tim | December 10, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”304636″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society!

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees, but instead, is becoming one of them today. I blame the MLB players union because they told him if he didn’t take the deal from the Yanks they would be really pissed with him. And put way too much pressure on him.[/quote]

    There was an article in one of the New York papers this week that quoted an anonymous “inside source” as saying that if the Yankees pulled the offer, CC’s agent was done. And I’m thinking to myself, the only reason CC originally fielded an offer from the Yankees was so that he could shop it around and see what else he could get. Clearly the Yankees were not his first choice, and this was a tactical ploy by CC and his agent, yet it’s amazing how gloom and doom was predicted for this guy’s career if the Yankees changed their mind, with the thinking being that in effect he would be blowing an extra $40 million for his client(since it was unlikely any other team would top $100 million).

    Remember when Tom Hicks was crucified by everyone for bidding against himself to the tune of an extra $100 million in order to sign A-Rod? What the Yankees did is really not that different. They basically bid against themselves by about $60 million in order to get CC. But because it’s, you know, the Yankees, everyone just shrugs their shoulders and chalks it up to the Yankees being the Yankees.

    And 7 years? Right now they’re praying that they get a Mussina-type performance from CC instead of Zito……

  • Tim | December 10, 2008 at 2:33 pm |

    Enough with the bold already…

  • Beardface | December 10, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    Of uniwatch note, only because they generally have so many changes it takes an entire week to discuss them every year…

    The Arena Football League has cancelled their 2009 season because of the economy. I’m willing to guess this will be a permanent thing and the league is now something of the past, much like the XFL.

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Kind of a shame, those games were actually somewhat fun to watch.

  • jmart | December 10, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”304700″][quote comment=”304696″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]
    That’s easily explainable. In his duels with Palpatine & Dooku and when he was about to get taken out by the clone troopers, he used the Force to compensate for his weakened physical condition. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    Of course, that leaves the door wide open to the question of why the hell Vader & Obi-Wan looked like statues during their duel on the Death Star.[/quote]

    It is official…we are nerds to the second degree.[/quote]
    Also you forget that the original trilogy is actually later than the newer one so yoda would be younger

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote]CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees, but instead, is becoming one of them today.[/quote]

    he never did have to try the free agent waters, you know…he could have resigned with milwaukee before it ever got to this

    but why should he? only in baseball do we fault “the best” for going “where the money is”…

    sure the yanks were bidding against themselves, as was hicks in 00…but that’s the players’ fault?

    you wanna fix baseball? you’re never getting a salary cap and the luxury tax is a joke (since the yankees are now obviously printing money…btw…did they sign lowe and burnett yet?)…how about limit an agent’s commission to a SET fee, and not a percentage of the overall take

    bet you see a tad more loyalty from players then

  • Andrew | December 10, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    The courtroom sketch from Blagojevich’s court appearance yesterday… Complete with NIKE swoosh.

    http://www.chicagotr...

  • Lwiedy | December 10, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”304712″][quote comment=”304636″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society!

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees, but instead, is becoming one of them today. I blame the MLB players union because they told him if he didn’t take the deal from the Yanks they would be really pissed with him. And put way too much pressure on him.[/quote]

    And 7 years? Right now they’re praying that they get a Mussina-type performance from CC instead of Zito……[/quote]

    No biggie if they get “a Zito”. They’ll just unload him and add it to the long list of hurlers that never fininshed contracts with NY. It’s not real hard to be a GM when there are no consequences of a failed signing.

  • Lwiedy | December 10, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”304717″]The courtroom sketch from Blagojevich’s court appearance yesterday… Complete with NIKE swoosh.

    http://www.chicagotr...

    Team Douchbag.

  • M.Princip | December 10, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”304709″]Not 100 percent sure, but I think the last non-kicker to wear one of those facemasks was Trent Dilfer when he was with the Bucs (soory, no pics).

    I think it was only a one- or two-game thing. And I think it was Bradshaw that sent it to him. Dilfer was catching a lot of guff from Bucs fans for leading an offense that lagged behind their defense, and comparisons had been drawn (by some) to Bradshaw’s early career …[/quote]

    Not sure if Dilfer wore the Dungard mask, however, if he did, it was most likely supplied to him by Helmet Hut. They are the ones who made the re-issue Dungards for Morten Anderson.

    https://www.gridiron...

  • Ben Neureuther | December 10, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”304633″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society!

    I’m pretty sure that complaining about sports franchises instead of complaing about, i dunno, the auto bailout or the continued devaluation of the dollar is all that’s wrong with society. AND there are plenty of folks in NYC who don’t like the Yankees, so calm down there fella.[/quote]

    Bein a college kid i know about how much our economy sucks. Anyways, if you were at Miller Park for 2 of CC’s games, including his first one with the Crew, you would know how much he means to the state of Wisconsin

  • Johnny O | December 10, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?[/quote]

    Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.

    C.C. could have really done something by denying the Evil Empire. He could have really turned the tables. But his greed got the best of him. Along with all the pressure from the player’s union, C.C. just plain old sold out. And I hate it when people say, “You would have done the same thing.” No…I wouldn’t have. I can truly, and honestly say that. Believe it or not.

  • Ben Neureuther | December 10, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees, but instead, is becoming one of them today. I blame the MLB players union because they told him if he didn’t take the deal from the Yanks they would be really pissed with him. And put way too much pressure on him.

    I know the obvious answer to my question, but when you are making that kind of cash, what is the difference between $110 million, and $161 million? The living costs in New York far exceed those of Milwaukee. The pressure of the New York media is relentless, and the expectations are way too high. In Milwaukee, CC would have been treated like royalty. You have a team in the Brewers who get an entire state excited when they make the playoffs for the first time in 26 years, while the Yankees don’t make the playoffs for the first time since ’93 and the “world is coming to an end” and it’s the headline in many papers across the country. And God forbid the Yankees haven’t won a World Series in a few years so something must be wrong with the organization, so let’s throw insane amount of cash at the biggest free agents every year just because we can.

    *sigh* Sorry, rant over. This of course coming from a disgruntled Brewer fan. This is just the first of many bad things to happen this week. I am sure the Cubs will land a few top free agents this week or next, and then it’s back to fighting for the basement in the NL Central with the Pirates.[/quote]

    hey man, at least were smart enough to sign Braun to that extension! For as much as i want to see CC do well as an individual, I hope he chokes in the first game at Yankee Stadium II just to spite the Steinbrenners and the players union. GO BREWERS GO

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]

    How about at 800 years old he can run and jump and flip and then at 820 he dies of old age? WTF?

  • Beardface | December 10, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”304724″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]

    How about at 800 years old he can run and jump and flip and then at 820 he dies of old age? WTF?[/quote]
    As if people didn’t already think UWers were geeks because of the whole being anal about uniforms thing….

    yep, this about seals that deal

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”304722″][quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?[/quote]

    Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.
    [/quote]

    What does “morals” have to do with it? Guy is a freelancer, why should he reject a legit offer from a potential employer?

    You may not like the rules, but the Yankees play by them. Sounds like your gripe isn’t with the Yanks at all. And I’m a Brewers fan.

  • Johnny O | December 10, 2008 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”304726″][quote comment=”304722″][quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?[/quote]

    Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.
    [/quote]

    What does “morals” have to do with it? Guy is a freelancer, why should he reject a legit offer from a potential employer?

    You may not like the rules, but the Yankees play by them. Sounds like your gripe isn’t with the Yanks at all. And I’m a Brewers fan.[/quote]

    He should reject it because they are the Yankees. Doesn’t matter if they offered $200 million. They are the Evil Empire.

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”304714″]Of uniwatch note, only because they generally have so many changes it takes an entire week to discuss them every year…

    The Arena Football League has cancelled their 2009 season because of the economy. I’m willing to guess this will be a permanent thing and the league is now something of the past, much like the XFL.

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Kind of a shame, those games were actually somewhat fun to watch.[/quote]

    Know what? In its own small way that is a truly disturbing development, in what it says about the economy. That league isn’t rich by any means, but it does have enough money to hire some pretty savvy analysts to run a feasibility study in regard to operating in 2009.

    I will ask, though, because I don’t know, what is the status of their television package? Can’t take time to read the article right now. If it’s not as healthy as the deals they’ve had in recent years with NBC and ESPN, then maybe I can understand their bailing on this year.

    But it’s still really unnerving, either way. It’s one thing for a league to go dark because of lack of interest, but to do so because of the economy? Especially a league that wasn’t doing all that badly, really.

    Never, in almost 55 years of following sports, have I heard of such a thing.

    This is not good. Not good at all.

    (NO sarcasm tags)

  • JTH | December 10, 2008 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”304725″][quote comment=”304724″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]

    How about at 800 years old he can run and jump and flip and then at 820 he dies of old age? WTF?[/quote]
    As if people didn’t already think UWers were geeks because of the whole being anal about uniforms thing….

    yep, this about seals that deal[/quote]
    And your point is?

  • James P. | December 10, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”304543″]Didn’t Terry Bradshaw also have a facemask like that Cowboys one in the early to mid-70’s? I think it rode really high on his face.[/quote]

    yeah, Bradshaw was wearing one back in college (1969 Louisiana Tech playing in the Greatland Rice Bowl: http://www.mmbolding...)

  • Flip | December 10, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”304704″][quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

    You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.[/quote]

    Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
    http://www.iconsport...
    http://assets.nydail...
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    http://www.opengroup...(SC)Joe_Namath_Photo.jpg
    Did I leave any out?[/quote]

    Namath looked like a stud regardless the facemask. I much preferred the Jets’ sleeve stripe in that era http://assets.nydail... vs. the new togs http://www.hollywood...

  • Lwiedy | December 10, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”304722″][quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?[/quote]

    Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.

    C.C. could have really done something by denying the Evil Empire. He could have really turned the tables. But his greed got the best of him. Along with all the pressure from the player’s union, C.C. just plain old sold out. And I hate it when people say, “You would have done the same thing.” No…I wouldn’t have. I can truly, and honestly say that. Believe it or not.[/quote]

    First, I hope I would also be as you are saying. At this stage of my life that would be more important than anything else. Probably you have had experiences that have brought you to that place. But these guys have been brought to a different place. Being around unionize players and having to depend on them to do your job may be as important as anything else to those guys. Hell, Pedroia signed last week and the main topic of discussion was did he “sell-out” his fellow union brothers by securing a potentially below market contract.

    I agree with you about what the “right” thing is in this case but there are people, and without judging them, make it difficult to do that. They obviously have a different definition of “right”.

  • Flip | December 10, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    OK, try this http://www.nypost.co... sleeve stripe.

  • Flip | December 10, 2008 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”304733″]OK, try this http://www.nypost.co... sleeve stripe.[/quote]
    Prefer this http://assets.nydail... style.

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”304727″][quote comment=”304726″][quote comment=”304722″][quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?[/quote]

    Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.
    [/quote]

    What does “morals” have to do with it? Guy is a freelancer, why should he reject a legit offer from a potential employer?

    You may not like the rules, but the Yankees play by them. Sounds like your gripe isn’t with the Yanks at all. And I’m a Brewers fan.[/quote]

    He should reject it because they are the Yankees. Doesn’t matter if they offered $200 million. They are the Evil Empire.[/quote]
    Which is clever marketing on the Yankees’ part, but not really relevant.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”304732″]I agree with you about what the “right” thing is in this case but there are people, and without judging them, make it difficult to do that. They obviously have a different definition of “right”.[/quote]

    now is the time that we must choose between what is right, and what is easy

    that only works in harry potter, not the free agent market

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”304707″]The Red Sox new road jerseys were up on MLB Shop last night but are now gone.

    They were really plain with BOSTON across the chest in really dark navy blue with no outline.

    Like this:
    http://exhibits.base...

    …Only the writing isn’t so plain.[/quote]

    Darn it! Nobody saved them? We managed to get the O’s and Sox caps when they were leaked.

  • Lwiedy | December 10, 2008 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”304728″][quote comment=”304714″]Of uniwatch note, only because they generally have so many changes it takes an entire week to discuss them every year…

    The Arena Football League has cancelled their 2009 season because of the economy. I’m willing to guess this will be a permanent thing and the league is now something of the past, much like the XFL.

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Kind of a shame, those games were actually somewhat fun to watch.[/quote]

    Know what? In its own small way that is a truly disturbing development, in what it says about the economy. That league isn’t rich by any means, but it does have enough money to hire some pretty savvy analysts to run a feasibility study in regard to operating in 2009.

    I will ask, though, because I don’t know, what is the status of their television package? Can’t take time to read the article right now. If it’s not as healthy as the deals they’ve had in recent years with NBC and ESPN, then maybe I can understand their bailing on this year.

    But it’s still really unnerving, either way. It’s one thing for a league to go dark because of lack of interest, but to do so because of the economy? Especially a league that wasn’t doing all that badly, really.

    Never, in almost 55 years of following sports, have I heard of such a thing.

    This is not good. Not good at all.

    (NO sarcasm tags)[/quote]

    Now I really stepping out of my element, but aren’t a lot of businesses funded (at least in part) by sources outside of the obvious ones such as revenue directly received from operation. I know the company I work for is far to beholden on investments that until recently were fairly well sustaining. So you might be doing just fine within your operation but external factors may the thing that are cutting into a bottom line. Or not.

  • Stuby | December 10, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”304727″][quote comment=”304726″][quote comment=”304722″][quote comment=”304659″][quote comment=”304658″][quote comment=”304654″][quote comment=”304636″][quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    CC had the chance to say “F— You!” to the ass clowns that are the Yankees,[/quote]

    Why should he?[/quote]

    Because the Yankees are the Evil Empire. They represent everything that is wrong with baseball. That is just my opinion, though.[/quote]

    so…if under armour offered you $110K per year to work for them, but nike offered you $161K, you tell them to “fuck off” because they’re evil?[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I am saying. Life isn’t all about money. It’s about family, pride, self respect, and morals.
    [/quote]

    What does “morals” have to do with it? Guy is a freelancer, why should he reject a legit offer from a potential employer?

    You may not like the rules, but the Yankees play by them. Sounds like your gripe isn’t with the Yanks at all. And I’m a Brewers fan.[/quote]

    He should reject it because they are the Yankees. Doesn’t matter if they offered $200 million. They are the Evil Empire.[/quote]
    They may be the Evil Empire to us fans, but obviously players don’t see it that way. Instead you get a dude like Giambi crying at his signing press conference because he always dreamed of being a Yankee, or somesuch crap. I’m sure that made A’s fans feel wonderful.

  • nofancyname | December 10, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    I didn’t go to this year’s Army-Navy game, so I don’t have a ticket stub, but I can almost guarantee that it inclued the logo that was on the field.

    FWIW, there have been some recent A-N tickets that looked quite cool.

    Ticket from the 1999 game (100th in the series) can be seen at http://tinyurl.com/5...

    (not my website, wish I had scanned my ticket before the game though)

  • Lwiedy | December 10, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”304738″][quote comment=”304728″][quote comment=”304714″]Of uniwatch note, only because they generally have so many changes it takes an entire week to discuss them every year…

    The Arena Football League has cancelled their 2009 season because of the economy. I’m willing to guess this will be a permanent thing and the league is now something of the past, much like the XFL.

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Kind of a shame, those games were actually somewhat fun to watch.[/quote]

    Know what? In its own small way that is a truly disturbing development, in what it says about the economy. That league isn’t rich by any means, but it does have enough money to hire some pretty savvy analysts to run a feasibility study in regard to operating in 2009.

    I will ask, though, because I don’t know, what is the status of their television package? Can’t take time to read the article right now. If it’s not as healthy as the deals they’ve had in recent years with NBC and ESPN, then maybe I can understand their bailing on this year.

    But it’s still really unnerving, either way. It’s one thing for a league to go dark because of lack of interest, but to do so because of the economy? Especially a league that wasn’t doing all that badly, really.

    Never, in almost 55 years of following sports, have I heard of such a thing.

    This is not good. Not good at all.

    (NO sarcasm tags)[/quote]

    Now I really stepping out of my element, but aren’t a lot of businesses funded (at least in part) by sources outside of the obvious ones such as revenue directly received from operation. I know the company I work for is far to beholden on investments that until recently were fairly well sustaining. So you might be doing just fine within your operation but external factors may the thing that are cutting into a bottom line. Or not.[/quote]

    It reminds of this:
    Tony D’Annunzio: Give me a coke.
    Danny Noonan: One coke.
    Tony D’Annunzio: Hey wait a minute. That’s only 50 cents.
    Danny Noonan: Yeah well Lou raised the price of coke he’s been losing at the track.

  • Tim | December 10, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”304718″]No biggie if they get “a Zito”. They’ll just unload him and add it to the long list of hurlers that never fininshed contracts with NY. It’s not real hard to be a GM when there are no consequences of a failed signing.[/quote]

    That’s exactly it. Unlike some other teams, where a bad signing can set your franchise back for years, the Yankees can just dump the underachiever and plug the hole with the next guy. It’s worked for them thus far because they have always had a core group of guys (Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Mussina, Rivera) who helped pick up the slack for the bad signings. But now that Pettitte is gone, Mussina is gone, and Posada, Jeter and Rivera are on the downside, or soon to be on the downsides, of their careers, that “strategy” might not work as well.

    The Yankees are missing that hunger they once had. What they have now is not hunger, but greed. Avarice. When they were a laughingstock in the 80’s and early 90’s, guys like Gene Michael and Buck Showalter and Joe Torre came in and were hungry to bring pride and prestige back to the Yankees. Which they did, with homegrown talent and shrewd free agent signings (Charlie Hayes anyone? Paul O’Neill? Scott Brosius?). But somewhere along the way they got greedy, and began signing any stiff that they thought could help them win another title. And the obsession with titles began to cloud their vision of how their franchise should be run.

    And now you have Hal, Hank and Brian, guys who enjoyed the spoils from the moves that their predecessors made, and don’t want to get evicted from the penthouse, and keep tossing money around in an attempt to stay there. I personally thought that Cashman’s original intent, in giving his young pitchers time to develop to let the team build for the future again through homegrown players, was the right move, but apparently the horror of missing the playoffs for the first time in over a decade seems to have forced them to abandon that plan, if the CC signing and all the talk about signing Burnett (Carl Pavano II), Lowe and/or Sheets is any indication of the direction the club is moving in.

    I’m sure it’s been pointed out before, and it will continue to be pointed out, but if your team has the highest payroll in baseball, and has just signed the top free agent pitcher on the market, and still feels that it needs to sign 2-3 more pitchers in order to be competitive against a team with a fraction of your payroll, then there’s something wrong and you are flat out not doing your job.

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    It’s just… unnerving. Usually sports organizations find a way to keep on keepin’ on. And that league’s been around for, what, 21 seasons now?

    I didn’t realize Tom Benson had folded the Voodoo. That I can sorta see. His city is still recovering from Katrina.

    And just the other day, didn’t the Houston Comets fold cuz couldn’t find a buyer? No matter what you think about the WNBA, it just isn’t a good sign when teams that could at least function now start disappearing because the economy sucks.

    Not saying have a explanation. It just feels…ominous.

    Of course, GM is on the verge of bankruptcy, too, so I guess that should have been another hint.
    (forehead slap)

  • Kek | December 10, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”304705″][quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

    You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.[/quote]

    Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
    http://www.iconsport...
    http://assets.nydail...
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    http://z.hubpages.co...
    Did I leave any out?
    (last image has been replaced)[/quote]
    never saw joe willy in a double bar. Thanks for posting

  • Kek | December 10, 2008 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”304637″]Bob Griese wore that style, and kinda high in my estimation….

    http://vault.sportsi...

    speaking of facemasks, helmets, Griese and whatnot, I always like the nose piece that my favorite player Larry Csonka had on his helmet….

    http://vault.sportsi...

    By the way, what a picture!!! Kiick, Csonka, & Morris! Too cool![/quote]

    Nose bumper/guard? I forget the official name but Howie Long wore one towards the end of his career, albeit not quite as prominent as Csonka’s. http://www.profootba...

  • Rick MD | December 10, 2008 at 3:45 pm |

    OK. An end to the “lavender” jacket debate. This just popped up on baltimoresun.com:

    So what is the truth? According to Ravens Director of Media Relations Chad Steele — who emailed me to clear things up — they’re all silver.

    Kevin and Candus,

    Just wanted to drop you a quick note in regards to your “Faceoff” yesterday about the coaches jackets on Sunday. Our coaches sideline jackets are silver, not lavender. From what I understand on some TV sets they looked lavender, but on others, they do look their true color. As an aside, the franchises do choose the color of their sideline gear, Reebok designs the apparel as far as color and style and the organizations just order the amount of what styles they receive.

  • Beardface | December 10, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”304743″]It’s just… unnerving. Usually sports organizations find a way to keep on keepin’ on. And that league’s been around for, what, 21 seasons now?

    I didn’t realize Tom Benson had folded the Voodoo. That I can sorta see. His city is still recovering from Katrina.

    And just the other day, didn’t the Houston Comets fold cuz couldn’t find a buyer? No matter what you think about the WNBA, it just isn’t a good sign when teams that could at least function now start disappearing because the economy sucks.

    Not saying have a explanation. It just feels…ominous.

    Of course, GM is on the verge of bankruptcy, too, so I guess that should have been another hint.
    (forehead slap)[/quote]
    On one hand, you’ve got leagues on the verge of folding because of the economy

    On the other hand, you’ve got the Yankees signing a pitcher to the most expensive contract in pitching history only a few months after paying off City Hall to allow them to bullfdoze some inner-city parks in Brooklyn so they could build their brand new building that non of the residents of Brooklyn could afford to enter…

    Yea, hating the Yankees is completely unfounded right now…

  • zac | December 10, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    seriously guys cmon have some common snse

    why would the nfl take the time and money to produce lavender jackets it would be cost ineffective, as well as look retarded.

    then they would have to do one for each team (i.e. chargers in light light powder blue and such)

    and coaches would probably hesitate when it came to wearing a lavender jacket

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    the yankees play in da bronx

  • Tim | December 10, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”304747″]On one hand, you’ve got leagues on the verge of folding because of the economy

    On the other hand, you’ve got the Yankees signing a pitcher to the most expensive contract in pitching history only a few months after paying off City Hall to allow them to bullfdoze some inner-city parks in Brooklyn so they could build their brand new building that non of the residents of Brooklyn could afford to enter…

    Yea, hating the Yankees is completely unfounded right now…[/quote]

    Excellent point, but it’s the Bronx, not Brooklyn.

    Brooklynites have their own issues……

  • Beardface | December 10, 2008 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”304750″][quote comment=”304747″]On one hand, you’ve got leagues on the verge of folding because of the economy

    On the other hand, you’ve got the Yankees signing a pitcher to the most expensive contract in pitching history only a few months after paying off City Hall to allow them to bullfdoze some inner-city parks in Brooklyn so they could build their brand new building that non of the residents of Brooklyn could afford to enter…

    Yea, hating the Yankees is completely unfounded right now…[/quote]

    Excellent point, but it’s the Bronx, not Brooklyn.

    Brooklynites have their own issues……[/quote]
    Whatever…. don’t care enough to have gotten it right

    you’re lucky I got the first letter right

  • Stuby | December 10, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”304744″][quote comment=”304705″][quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

    You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.[/quote]

    Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
    http://www.iconsport...
    http://assets.nydail...
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    http://z.hubpages.co...
    Did I leave any out?
    (last image has been replaced)[/quote]
    never saw joe willy in a double bar. Thanks for posting[/quote]
    Looks like Namath kept that last example when we went to the Rams. Love the tape job, by the way.

    http://weblogs.newsd...

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”304747″][quote comment=”304743″]It’s just… unnerving. Usually sports organizations find a way to keep on keepin’ on. And that league’s been around for, what, 21 seasons now?

    I didn’t realize Tom Benson had folded the Voodoo. That I can sorta see. His city is still recovering from Katrina.

    And just the other day, didn’t the Houston Comets fold cuz couldn’t find a buyer? No matter what you think about the WNBA, it just isn’t a good sign when teams that could at least function now start disappearing because the economy sucks.

    Not saying have a explanation. It just feels…ominous.

    Of course, GM is on the verge of bankruptcy, too, so I guess that should have been another hint.
    (forehead slap)[/quote]
    On one hand, you’ve got leagues on the verge of folding because of the economy

    On the other hand, you’ve got the Yankees signing a pitcher to the most expensive contract in pitching history only a few months after paying off City Hall to allow them to bullfdoze some inner-city parks in Brooklyn so they could build their brand new building that non of the residents of Brooklyn could afford to enter…

    Yea, hating the Yankees is completely unfounded right now…[/quote]

    “The rich get rich and the poor get poorer,
    “in the meantime, in between time,
    “ain’t we got fun.”

    The Yankees always remind of the customer who goes through the express checkout line with an overloaded cart groceries (or two)…and justifies it by saying, “Well I’m in a hurry.”

  • Stuby | December 10, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    And the mysterious “Senate Candidate #5” is…

    Jesse Jackson, Jr.!!

    Quick, someone go order a White Sox jersey with JACKSON #5 on it. Wait, Jackson 5? Holy Crap!

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”304741″][quote comment=”304738″][quote comment=”304728″][quote comment=”304714″]Of uniwatch note, only because they generally have so many changes it takes an entire week to discuss them every year…

    The Arena Football League has cancelled their 2009 season because of the economy. I’m willing to guess this will be a permanent thing and the league is now something of the past, much like the XFL.

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Kind of a shame, those games were actually somewhat fun to watch.[/quote]

    Know what? In its own small way that is a truly disturbing development, in what it says about the economy. That league isn’t rich by any means, but it does have enough money to hire some pretty savvy analysts to run a feasibility study in regard to operating in 2009.

    I will ask, though, because I don’t know, what is the status of their television package? Can’t take time to read the article right now. If it’s not as healthy as the deals they’ve had in recent years with NBC and ESPN, then maybe I can understand their bailing on this year.

    But it’s still really unnerving, either way. It’s one thing for a league to go dark because of lack of interest, but to do so because of the economy? Especially a league that wasn’t doing all that badly, really.

    Never, in almost 55 years of following sports, have I heard of such a thing.

    This is not good. Not good at all.

    (NO sarcasm tags)[/quote]

    Now I really stepping out of my element, but aren’t a lot of businesses funded (at least in part) by sources outside of the obvious ones such as revenue directly received from operation. I know the company I work for is far to beholden on investments that until recently were fairly well sustaining. So you might be doing just fine within your operation but external factors may the thing that are cutting into a bottom line. Or not.[/quote]

    It reminds of this:
    Tony D’Annunzio: Give me a coke.
    Danny Noonan: One coke.
    Tony D’Annunzio: Hey wait a minute. That’s only 50 cents.
    Danny Noonan: Yeah well Lou raised the price of coke he’s been losing at the track.[/quote]

    But D’Annunzio was an educated consumer, he knew that he had other options within the marketplace, thus replying, “I ain’t payin’ fifty cents for no coke”.

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”304752″][quote comment=”304744″][quote comment=”304705″][quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

    You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.[/quote]

    Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
    http://www.iconsport...
    http://assets.nydail...
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    http://z.hubpages.co...
    Did I leave any out?
    (last image has been replaced)[/quote]
    never saw joe willy in a double bar. Thanks for posting[/quote]
    Looks like Namath kept that last example when we went to the Rams. Love the tape job, by the way.

    http://weblogs.newsd...

    I think of Sam Huff when I see that mask:

    http://img.nytstore....

  • Teebz | December 10, 2008 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”304755″]And the mysterious “Senate Candidate #5” is…

    Jesse Jackson, Jr.!!

    Quick, someone go order a White Sox jersey with JACKSON #5 on it. Wait, Jackson 5? Holy Crap![/quote]

    It’s as easy as A-B-C, Stuby. ;o)

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”304750″][quote comment=”304747″]On one hand, you’ve got leagues on the verge of folding because of the economy

    On the other hand, you’ve got the Yankees signing a pitcher to the most expensive contract in pitching history only a few months after paying off City Hall to allow them to bullfdoze some inner-city parks in Brooklyn so they could build their brand new building that non of the residents of Brooklyn could afford to enter…

    Yea, hating the Yankees is completely unfounded right now…[/quote]

    Excellent point, but it’s the Bronx, not Brooklyn.

    Brooklynites have their own issues……[/quote]

    [quote comment=”304757″][quote comment=”304752″][quote comment=”304744″][quote comment=”304705″][quote comment=”304697″][quote comment=”304693″][quote comment=”304591″][quote comment=”304544″]• Check out this unusual facemask placement. I haven’t been able to find an old photo of Jerry Rhome to see if that’s really how he wore his mask during game action — anyone..? (Full listing.)

    No photo of Rhome, but only other high profile player I’ve seen with this facemask was Bradshaw in his early years. Here’s a link: http://tinyurl.com/5...

    Morten Andersen wore that for years.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    He wore a grey one while with thye Giants:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    Would you really consider the original subject mask the same as the Morten Anderson mask? Andersen’s bars were further apart and wrapped almost completely around the front of the mask. As pointed out, Griese and Bradshaw wore ‘em but Bradshaw also wore the Morten Andersen style.[/quote]

    You’re right…Morten’s mask is a complete loop, as opposed to the Dungards.[/quote]

    Would you say guys today pick a mask and stay with it more than yesteryear? Broadway Joe always seemed to be changing, this runs from ’65 to ‘73.
    http://www.iconsport...
    http://assets.nydail...
    http://i.cdn.turner....
    http://z.hubpages.co...
    Did I leave any out?
    (last image has been replaced)[/quote]
    never saw joe willy in a double bar. Thanks for posting[/quote]
    Looks like Namath kept that last example when we went to the Rams. Love the tape job, by the way.

    http://weblogs.newsd...

    I think of Sam Huff when I see that mask:

    http://img.nytstore....

    BTW, I believe that it is affectionately referred to as a “cow-catcher” similar to this:

    http://upload.wikime...(PSF).png

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”304758″][quote comment=”304755″]And the mysterious “Senate Candidate #5” is…

    Jesse Jackson, Jr.!!

    Quick, someone go order a White Sox jersey with JACKSON #5 on it. Wait, Jackson 5? Holy Crap![/quote]

    It’s as easy as A-B-C, Stuby. ;o)[/quote]

    You still haven’t eaten lunch, have you?

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 4:11 pm |

    d’annunzio still didn’t get no coke tho, did he?

  • chance | December 10, 2008 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”304754″]The Yankees always remind of the customer who goes through the express checkout line with an overloaded cart groceries (or two)…and justifies it by saying, “Well I’m in a hurry.”[/quote]

    The example kinda breaks down, though, by the fact that the Yankees aren’t breaking any rules.

    You might as well castigate the Yankees for taking 5 items into the “5-items-or-less” line at the store.

    The solution is to change the rules, not blame teams that use them to their benefit.

  • Stuby | December 10, 2008 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”304758″][quote comment=”304755″]And the mysterious “Senate Candidate #5” is…

    Jesse Jackson, Jr.!!

    Quick, someone go order a White Sox jersey with JACKSON #5 on it. Wait, Jackson 5? Holy Crap![/quote]

    It’s as easy as A-B-C, Stuby. ;o)[/quote]
    Weell played Teebz. As I was typing that I had the voice of Lee Corso in my head… “It’s all connected, my friend. It’s all connected”.

  • Stuby | December 10, 2008 at 4:32 pm |

    At least I got the right amount of “e”s in Teebz.

  • Beardface | December 10, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”304762″][quote comment=”304754″]The Yankees always remind of the customer who goes through the express checkout line with an overloaded cart groceries (or two)…and justifies it by saying, “Well I’m in a hurry.”[/quote]

    The example kinda breaks down, though, by the fact that the Yankees aren’t breaking any rules.

    You might as well castigate the Yankees for taking 5 items into the “5-items-or-less” line at the store.

    The solution is to change the rules, not blame teams that use them to their benefit.[/quote]
    Oh fuck that

    Of all times for the Yankees to go out and overspend for every big name in the market, they do it when the economy is in the absolute shitter. They’re flaunting their wealth in the face of every American, most of which have either lost their house, lost their retirement savings, lost their job, or some sort of combination of them all. They’re throwing up a giant middle finger to the common man because they can. You might not be able to afford to get groceries, but fuck you, the Yankees are going to spend their $300 million per season and not think twice.

  • M.Princip | December 10, 2008 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”304746″]OK. An end to the “lavender” jacket debate. This just popped up on baltimoresun.com:

    So what is the truth? According to Ravens Director of Media Relations Chad Steele — who emailed me to clear things up — they’re all silver.

    Kevin and Candus,

    Just wanted to drop you a quick note in regards to your “Faceoff” yesterday about the coaches jackets on Sunday. Our coaches sideline jackets are silver, not lavender. From what I understand on some TV sets they looked lavender, but on others, they do look their true color. As an aside, the franchises do choose the color of their sideline gear, Reebok designs the apparel as far as color and style and the organizations just order the amount of what styles they receive.[/quote]

    So I ask, what’s so wrong with silver and a light lavenderish hue? Just say silver Chad…………it’s silver.

    Thanks for the clarification Rick.

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”304762″][quote comment=”304754″]The Yankees always remind of the customer who goes through the express checkout line with an overloaded cart groceries (or two)…and justifies it by saying, “Well I’m in a hurry.”[/quote]

    The example kinda breaks down, though, by the fact that the Yankees aren’t breaking any rules.

    You might as well castigate the Yankees for taking 5 items into the “5-items-or-less” line at the store.

    The solution is to change the rules, not blame teams that use them to their benefit.[/quote]

    You’re absolutely right. They are doing nothing against the rules, and I wasn’t intending to say they were.

    Just said they “remind” me of that express checkout situation in the sense that–and this was the intended analogy–I’ve got more than you, so my needs outweigh yours and I don’t have to wait in line like everyone else.

  • John Paul Jones | December 10, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    Today’s UW comments recap:

    wah, wah, wah Yankees
    sob, sob, sob Evil Empire
    Yoda, Ricko, Yoda
    weep, weep, weep Sabathia
    sniffle, sniffle, sniffle it’s not fair

    Nothing but a lot of hatin’, it’s not a good look. If you think the Yanks are the beginning and end of what’s wrong with MLB, think again.

    Question:
    Who had the first million dollar contract? Was that player a Yankee?

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”304766″][quote comment=”304746″]OK. An end to the “lavender” jacket debate. This just popped up on baltimoresun.com:

    So what is the truth? According to Ravens Director of Media Relations Chad Steele — who emailed me to clear things up — they’re all silver.

    Kevin and Candus,

    Just wanted to drop you a quick note in regards to your “Faceoff” yesterday about the coaches jackets on Sunday. Our coaches sideline jackets are silver, not lavender. From what I understand on some TV sets they looked lavender, but on others, they do look their true color. As an aside, the franchises do choose the color of their sideline gear, Reebok designs the apparel as far as color and style and the organizations just order the amount of what styles they receive.[/quote]

    So I ask, what’s so wrong with silver and a light lavenderish hue? Just say silver Chad…………it’s silver.

    Thanks for the clarification Rick.[/quote]

    We needed to call the Ravens to learn what we could see from other games all season, and what we should well know as uni geeks…that NFL sideline gear is standard leaguewide and produced by a contracted suppliers?

    C’mon, people, we’re too good at this to have bought into that.

    A little common sense and knowledge, largely starting with that idiot Baltimore reporter, would have been nice.

    “Well,” thought the observant scribe, “the jackets looked kinda lavender in that light, so they must be lavender.” I suppose after the game he went to a strip club and screamed, “My god, that chick is BLUE!!! No, wait, now she’s RED!!!”

  • Hollywood | December 10, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    The thing about the Yankees is that they are greedy. They have 26 championships, right? They missed the playoffs this year for the first time since 1993 and all the Yankees fans are pissed off about it, while over in Milwaukee, they make the playoffs, and it connects an entire state. The thing with big markets and big money is that, in my opinion, it makes the team, owners, fans greedy and have the “championship or nothing” motto. One team is not going to win it every year. And that is what makes winning a championship so special, that it doesn’t happen all the time. But, the Yankees, along with some other teams go by the golden rule…”he who has the gold, rules”.

    The Yankees aren’t done with free agency. And by the start of the season they will have accumulated an All-Star team. If the Yankees want to buy a championship, just let them have one and don’t bother playing the games.

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    LOL. No offense intended. This has just been an odd frickin’ day at Uni Watch.

  • Kek | December 10, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”304769″][quote comment=”304766″][quote comment=”304746″]OK. An end to the “lavender” jacket debate. This just popped up on baltimoresun.com:

    So what is the truth? According to Ravens Director of Media Relations Chad Steele — who emailed me to clear things up — they’re all silver.

    Kevin and Candus,

    Just wanted to drop you a quick note in regards to your “Faceoff” yesterday about the coaches jackets on Sunday. Our coaches sideline jackets are silver, not lavender. From what I understand on some TV sets they looked lavender, but on others, they do look their true color. As an aside, the franchises do choose the color of their sideline gear, Reebok designs the apparel as far as color and style and the organizations just order the amount of what styles they receive.[/quote]

    So I ask, what’s so wrong with silver and a light lavenderish hue? Just say silver Chad…………it’s silver.

    Thanks for the clarification Rick.[/quote]

    We needed to call the Ravens to learn what we could see from other games all season, and what we should well know as uni geeks…that NFL sideline gear is standard leaguewide and produced by a contracted suppliers?

    C’mon, people, we’re too good at this to have bought into that.

    A little common sense and knowledge, largely starting with that idiot Baltimore reporter, would have been nice.

    “Well,” thought the observant scribe, “the jackets looked kinda lavender in that light, so they must be lavender.” I suppose after the game he went to a strip club and screamed, “My god, that chick is BLUE!!! No, wait, now she’s RED!!!”[/quote]
    HA! Glad I wasn’t enjoying a beverage when I read that last line!

  • Brian | December 10, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    -The Ravens jackets are obviously silver. I don’t see how anyone can think different. I think any hint of lavender is a reflection off of the surrounding colors.

    -Being a die-hard Yankee fan, I’m loving all the Yankee hate on this site, makes me feel all warm inside. Bottom line is that the Yankees are playing within the system, and not breaking any rules. I am concerned about the length of the CC deal, but the team needed a solid starter that badly. As for the whole “loyalty” thing, well not too sound crass but welcome to the 21st century. The only real loyalty in sports anymore is from a fan to their team, players (for the most part) are hired guns. You can debate until the cows come home on whether that’s good or bad, but it’s true.

  • Tim | December 10, 2008 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”304765″]Oh fuck that

    Of all times for the Yankees to go out and overspend for every big name in the market, they do it when the economy is in the absolute shitter. They’re flaunting their wealth in the face of every American, most of which have either lost their house, lost their retirement savings, lost their job, or some sort of combination of them all. They’re throwing up a giant middle finger to the common man because they can. You might not be able to afford to get groceries, but fuck you, the Yankees are going to spend their $300 million per season and not think twice.[/quote]

    Not that I’m defending the Yankees, but that’s what rich people do. They couldn’t care less about the little guy until it starts to affect them. That’s when they suddenly decide to find religion and push for fiscal responibility.

    Look at the auto industry or the banking industry. While thousands of auto workers were laid off and thousands of people lost their houses because of subprime mortgages, the fat cats in charge of the Big Three and the banks just sat back, enjoyed their salaries and the various perks of their lifestyles, and basically didn’t give a crap that the little guys were suffering. But once the very real threat of bankruptcy loomed and losing their jobs and the perks associated with it became a possible reality, the rich guys ran to Capitol Hill with hands outstretched crying poverty. And in private jets and $2000 suits, no less.

    The Yankees don’t care what you think. They don’t care that the average customer is priced out of their new stadium. They don’t care that the neighborhood kids don’t have ballfields to play on because they took the land and now aren’t exactly in a rush to build replacement fields for them like they said they would. They don’t care that they are spending the GDP of a small nation on C(rispy) C(reme) Sabathia. They don’t care. Unless and until people don’t start showing up to the stadium , people don’t buy Yankee merchandise, people don’t pay $8 for a beer, what the average fan thinks about the fiscal irresponsibility of their spending is of little to no concern to them. As long as they rake in the dough, and people continue paying for whatever product they put out on the field, they’ll continue spending (wasting?) more and more money.

    The payroll will eventually hit $300 million, and the Yankees will just chalk it up to the cost of doing business and take their lumps in the media. Why? Because someone out there will pay for it and continue paying whatever it costs to go a game. And until someone draws a line and says “no, we’re not going to subsidize this anymore” and hurts the Yankees where it counts the most, in their collective pockets, it will remain that way.

  • WSCopic | December 10, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”304677″]WAIT A MINUTE! Sign with UA…dudn’t my head explode yesterday? I’d take down the Yankees Evil Empire, not Beaverton’s.

    If that’s the case, then you might as well cast me as Darth Maul or Boba Fett.

    Wouldn’t Ricko be better suited to play Grandma Tarkin?

    http://www.firsttvdr...

    Assuming this was intentional, but you did know that it is Grand Moff Tarkin, right? :D

  • Brian | December 10, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”304770″]The thing about the Yankees is that they are greedy. They have 26 championships, right? They missed the playoffs this year for the first time since 1993 and all the Yankees fans are pissed off about it, while over in Milwaukee, they make the playoffs, and it connects an entire state. The thing with big markets and big money is that, in my opinion, it makes the team, owners, fans greedy and have the “championship or nothing” motto. One team is not going to win it every year. And that is what makes winning a championship so special, that it doesn’t happen all the time. But, the Yankees, along with some other teams go by the golden rule…”he who has the gold, rules”.

    .[/quote]

    I for one don’t subscribe to that theory, I think seasons can have levels of success. For example any season a team makes the playoffs is a success IMO. Obviously the main goal should be a championship, but I don’t think that should define the season either.
    That being said, are the Boston/New York/Chicago/Insert Big Market supposed to stop trying, or say “Well we’ve won before, lets bow out for a few years to give other teams a shot.” That’s insane.

  • WSCopic | December 10, 2008 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”304696″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]
    That’s easily explainable. In his duels with Palpatine & Dooku and when he was about to get taken out by the clone troopers, he used the Force to compensate for his weakened physical condition. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    Of course, that leaves the door wide open to the question of why the hell Vader & Obi-Wan looked like statues during their duel on the Death Star.[/quote]

    Haha, because they were swinging steel rods around and they hadn’t really decided what the whole thing was about, yet. ;)

    The saber duels in Empire and ROTJ get much better, progressively.

    Also, they actaully made excuses and put things into the canon to explain Vader’s clunky fighting style. When the truth is, the costume didn’t allow him to raise his arms much past chest level.

    :D

  • Kek | December 10, 2008 at 5:24 pm |

    The Mets need a closer. The Mets give 12.3M/yr to K-Rod, a guy who may or may not pitch 1 inning a game depending on the circumstances.

    Hardly a word uttered.

    The Yanks need a starter. The Yanks give 23M/yr to CC, who, on the other hand, actually still pitches complete games.

    It’s the end of the freakin’ world.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”304778″]The Mets need a closer. The Mets give 12.3M/yr to K-Rod, a guy who may or may not pitch 1 inning a game depending on the circumstances.

    Hardly a word uttered.

    The Yanks need a starter. The Yanks give 23M/yr to CC, who, on the other hand, actually still pitches complete games.

    It’s the end of the freakin’ world.[/quote]

    and the pirates still suck
    ;)

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 5:30 pm |

    In the 1950’s people bitched about the Yankees trying to buy pennants.

    The wife of my first partner once asked, at a dinner party back then, “How do they decide who plays the Yankees in the World Series every year?”

    Yankees are who they are. And they are perceived the way they’re perceived.

    What we have learned today, btw, is that to draw a lot of comment, we should discuss the Yankees, lavender sideline parkas and Star Wars.

    Oh shit. We ARE geeks.

  • Kek | December 10, 2008 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”304779″][quote comment=”304778″]The Mets need a closer. The Mets give 12.3M/yr to K-Rod, a guy who may or may not pitch 1 inning a game depending on the circumstances.

    Hardly a word uttered.

    The Yanks need a starter. The Yanks give 23M/yr to CC, who, on the other hand, actually still pitches complete games.

    It’s the end of the freakin’ world.[/quote]

    and the pirates still suck
    ;)[/quote]
    Hey, we took two of three against the evil empire this past season! Seeing that CC’s salary will be more than half of the entire Pirates’ payroll, that kind of makes me chuckle.

    Don’t sleep on the Pirates, we got those two pitchers from India now!!!

  • Tim | December 10, 2008 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”304776″]I for one don’t subscribe to that theory, I think seasons can have levels of success. For example any season a team makes the playoffs is a success IMO. Obviously the main goal should be a championship, but I don’t think that should define the season either.
    That being said, are the Boston/New York/Chicago/Insert Big Market supposed to stop trying, or say “Well we’ve won before, lets bow out for a few years to give other teams a shot.” That’s insane.[/quote]

    The problem is that with the Yankees, either through their spending, attitude of the front office, various soundbites from George and Hank, attitudes of the fans, whatever, the prevalent frame of mind amongst the Yankees and their followers is that making the playoffs is not enough. It has to culminate in a championship or else the season is considered a disappointment. I am of your thinking, that anytime a team makes the playoffs the season should be considered a success, but the reality is that this holds true for 99% of the teams in baseball. And then there’s the Yankees. For the Yankees, a championship is the only way to define success.

    No one is saying that the Yankees, or Sawx, or Cubbies, or anyone should stop trying. Far from it. What I think irks a lot of people is that the Yankees last season wasted no time in telling the world that the recent Yankee mode of doing business i.e. throwing cash at the hottest free agents and hoping to get out of the first round of the playoffs wasn’t working, and now they were going to go with their young pitchers and ,while they would suffer some growing pains at first, in the long run it would be the best thing for the franchise. Then they miss the playoffs. So what do they do the following year? Fiscal responsibility and future prosperity be damned. Let’s just open up the wallet and throw money at the hottest free agent. And while we’re at it, let’s throw money at all of the hot free agent pitchers. Phil Who? Ian What? Joba Where? Youth movement? What’s that?

    Like I said before, everyone ridiculed and absolutely destroyed Tom Hicks when he bid against himself to sign A-Rod. One of the reasons cited was that A-Rod was not going to singlehandedly solve all his team’s problems. So now the Yanks sign Sabathia, and the first thing that the area papers and ESPN mention after the signing is that (a) they bid against themselves to sign him, and (b) Sabathia is not going to singlehandedly solve all the team’s problems. I know for a lot of Yanke fans that jumped on the “Tom Hicks is an idiot” bandwagon when he signed A-Rod, yet I guarantee you they’ll just shrug their shoulders with the CC signing and defend it as the Yankees doing what they have to do to win. Which is an absurd notion, because the Yankees have been doing nothing but winning for the last decade.

    I agree that MLB’s problems run deeper than the way the Yankees spend their money. In fact, the Hicks signing did a helluva lot of damage to MLB. But by that same token, no one can sit there and say that what the Yankees are doing isn’t hurting baseball either. Because when there’s a term for what the Yankees do, “Yankee money”, and every major free agent declaration is met with “well, he’s going to have to decide whether he’s going to take Yankee money or settle for another team’s offer”, there’s a problem.

  • joe | December 10, 2008 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”304641″]One of the reasons a relegation system would never work is business – NHL franchises might not be worth that much compared to MLB or NFL but what would it do to franchise values if there’s a risk that you won’t even be in the NHL anymore? As an NHL owner are you going to spend hundreds of millions on a franchise and arena if you run the risk of having one bad year and going to the minors? If Hersey was pushed the the NHL they would be a bottom end NHL team and likely to be pushed back down the following year. It would be a massive incentive to not be worst. I agree it won’t work, but its a great system in theory. The major roadblock is the AHL would not be able to be the developmental league since you can’t be pulling players from their rosters in this structure you would have to do legitimate trades.

    your assumptions are flawed. If Montreal or chiacgo and any team was relegated they would then be the “top” AHL team teh following year and likely to be pushed back the the NHL the following year.
    Second business reason – are you going to replace Toronto, Montreal, LA, New York in the NHL with Albany, Moline, Peoria and Des Moines? Not very major league?[/quote]

  • Tim | December 10, 2008 at 5:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”304778″]The Mets need a closer. The Mets give 12.3M/yr to K-Rod, a guy who may or may not pitch 1 inning a game depending on the circumstances.

    Hardly a word uttered.

    The Yanks need a starter. The Yanks give 23M/yr to CC, who, on the other hand, actually still pitches complete games.

    It’s the end of the freakin’ world.[/quote]

    There’s a few reasons for that:

    (1) The Mets didn’t pay the GDP of a small nation to buy K-Rod’s services

    (2) The Mets didn’t bid against themselves to get K-Rod’s services.

    (3) The Mets didn’t go talk tough and say “this offer is not going to be on the table forever” and then run to K-Rod and offer him more money to sign with them even though no other team was even close to what they were offering.

    I’m just saying.

  • joe | December 10, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”304696″][quote comment=”304691″][quote comment=”304679″][quote comment=”304678″][quote comment=”304669″]”Ricko as Obi-Wan Kenobi”

    If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can imagine.[/quote]

    ricko strikes me more as this[/quote]

    And let’s remember, he turned out to be the baddest ass in the whole deal.[/quote]

    ya know, not for nothin, but SWIII (ROTS) really pissed me off…for 4 movies, frikkin yoda could barely walk, was always tired, had that trusty old cane…kinda like ricko…then he’s like flyin around doing flips and all kinds of jedi mind shit on anakin

    WTF? where’s the plot continuity in that? if he had all that ability, why the hell did he make luke carry him on his back and shit?[/quote]
    That’s easily explainable. In his duels with Palpatine & Dooku and when he was about to get taken out by the clone troopers, he used the Force to compensate for his weakened physical condition. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    Of course, that leaves the door wide open to the question of why the hell Vader & Obi-Wan looked like statues during their duel on the Death Star.[/quote]
    or he just chose to look weak and frail when he was actually fully capabable.

  • Concerned Citizen | December 10, 2008 at 5:55 pm |

    The first $1M/yr player was actually Pete Rose, in 1979, when he signed a 5-yr contract with the Phillies. (That’s $2.8M/yr in inflation-adjusted 2007 dollars)

    However, Dave Winfield signed a 10 yr/$21M contract with the Yankees in 1981, making him the first $2M/yr player. (That’s $4.5M/yr in inflation-adjusted 2007 dollars).

  • zac | December 10, 2008 at 6:04 pm |

    anyone consider maybe the chicago bulls symbol may be recognized worldwide?

    when jordan was in his hayday, clearly the best basketball player in the world, he had to be everywhere. i don’t know anything about the subject but i’m just speculating

    thoughts?

  • mike 2 | December 10, 2008 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”304786″]The first $1M/yr player was actually Pete Rose, in 1979, when he signed a 5-yr contract with the Phillies. (That’s $2.8M/yr in inflation-adjusted 2007 dollars)

    However, Dave Winfield signed a 10 yr/$21M contract with the Yankees in 1981, making him the first $2M/yr player. (That’s $4.5M/yr in inflation-adjusted 2007 dollars).[/quote]

    Pete Rose’s contract in 1979 was 4 years for $3.2m (the biggest salary ever to that date but not a million dollars per year)

    According to Baseball Almanac, the first million dollar player was Nolan Ryan in 1979.

    http://www.baseball-...

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 7:18 pm |

    Another pic to lighten the mood…it’s not me, don’t worry:

    https://webmail.opti...

  • jon | December 10, 2008 at 7:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”304765″][quote comment=”304762″][quote comment=”304754″]The Yankees always remind of the customer who goes through the express checkout line with an overloaded cart groceries (or two)…and justifies it by saying, “Well I’m in a hurry.”[/quote]

    The example kinda breaks down, though, by the fact that the Yankees aren’t breaking any rules.

    You might as well castigate the Yankees for taking 5 items into the “5-items-or-less” line at the store.

    The solution is to change the rules, not blame teams that use them to their benefit.[/quote]
    Oh fuck that

    Of all times for the Yankees to go out and overspend for every big name in the market, they do it when the economy is in the absolute shitter. They’re flaunting their wealth in the face of every American, most of which have either lost their house, lost their retirement savings, lost their job, or some sort of combination of them all. They’re throwing up a giant middle finger to the common man because they can. You might not be able to afford to get groceries, but fuck you, the Yankees are going to spend their $300 million per season and not think twice.[/quote]

    yup.
    thats exactly the thought process that went through the yankees’ collective minds as they signed a free agent baseball player. “lets say fuck you to everyone in the country because we depend on them spending the money they dont have anymore to come see our spectacle.”
    look, i hate the yankees too. i hate the excesses, i hate the bidding against themselves, i hate how they buy the entire free agent market when they can. but lets be serious. they arent trying to say “fuck you” to the common man. they are doing what they do every offseason. why is this a surprise to anyone? they went after the biggest name on the list. its what the yankees have done since the seventies (or 1918, if youre a sawx fan). this is nothing new. and it gets the same angry response every year.
    and as for wanting cc to turn down the yankees because its the “right thing to do” and because they are “the evil empire,” thats a bit of a stretch. this is baseball. no one lives or dies because of the yankees (no one sane, anyway). yes the very name “yankees” is ripe with excess, but do you really think when a deal is on the table a player stops and says to himself “people think this is the evil empire im signing with… should i think of them instead of my playing career?” no. why would they? cc was a free agent in a job market and a very good job opportunity with amazing pay was offered to him. i cant blame him for a second for taking that opportunity.

  • Wes | December 10, 2008 at 7:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”304590″][quote comment=”304587″]They look pretty gray to me (or is it grey?)[/quote]

    “Gray” in America, “grey” in England. Easy to remember — “a” for America, “e” for England.[/quote]

    Thanks for the clarification. I figured it may be a pop/soda regional thing. Which I guess it sort of is, on more of an international scale.

  • Wes | December 10, 2008 at 7:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”304608″]Fuck the Yankees, the city of New York, Yankee Stadium II, and MLB for not having a salary cap! The Yankees are an example of EVERYTHING that is wrong with society![/quote]

    Settle down, dude. The CC signing just proves the Yankees have learned nothing in the past few years. If they think CC will still be worth $23 mill in 7 years when he’s 35 and pushing 4-bills they will be in for a rude awakening. And check out his career playoff stats. Yikes!

  • odessasteps magazine | December 10, 2008 at 7:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”304584″][quote comment=”304582″][quote comment=”304577″]I’m not saying the AHL team would win it all, but they certainly would be no worse than the Lightning or Senators this year…it would also make signing players a bit more interesting…

    I know the AHL is not as fast/intense as the NHL, but watching some of these teams (like the Blue Jackets) are just as far away from the Stanley Cup as the Hershey Bears…[/quote]

    CBJ would kill the Bears. The TBL would tear apart any AHL team. The skill/size is that different

    TB might not be very good right now, but they have NHL TALENT on the team. There is a reason why Hershey Bears is full of AHL players…. they’re AHL talent, not NHL.[/quote]

    Well, the Caps are so banged up that most of the starting D are Hershey callups and they’ve been shuttling assorted forwards between Hershey and DC. Put Ovechkin on the Bears and you approximately have the same team.[/quote]

    As a Bears season ticket holder, I’d like to see some of those injured Caps get healthy so they can return those players back to Hershey.

    I don’t think the Bears, much as I like them, would be able to keep up that 4+ goals per game average in the show.

  • Ricko | December 10, 2008 at 7:30 pm |

    I’m still contemplating how many pinstripes there’ll be around each thigh of Sabbathia’s pantlegs. Gotta be a Yankee record.

    But that’s just me. LOL

    —Ricko

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 7:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”304775″][quote comment=”304677″]WAIT A MINUTE! Sign with UA…dudn’t my head explode yesterday? I’d take down the Yankees Evil Empire, not Beaverton’s.

    If that’s the case, then you might as well cast me as Darth Maul or Boba Fett.

    Wouldn’t Ricko be better suited to play Grandma Tarkin?

    http://www.firsttvdr...

    Assuming this was intentional, but you did know that it is Grand Moff Tarkin, right? :D[/quote]

    Yes, and the little rat muppet thing at Jabba’s side is Selacious Crumb who stands closely to the Twi’lek Bib Fortuna…

    Football Helmets, sneakers, Star Wars, and Lord of the Rings…I am basically a pledge of the Tri-lams:

    http://www.grudge-ma...

    And by the way, the link didn’t work before:

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • MPowers1634 | December 10, 2008 at 7:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”304795″][quote comment=”304775″][quote comment=”304677″]WAIT A MINUTE! Sign with UA…dudn’t my head explode yesterday? I’d take down the Yankees Evil Empire, not Beaverton’s.

    If that’s the case, then you might as well cast me as Darth Maul or Boba Fett.

    Wouldn’t Ricko be better suited to play Grandma Tarkin?

    http://www.firsttvdr...

    Assuming this was intentional, but you did know that it is Grand Moff Tarkin, right? :D[/quote]

    Yes, and the little rat muppet thing at Jabba’s side is Selacious Crumb who stands closely to the Twi’lek Bib Fortuna…

    Football Helmets, sneakers, Star Wars, and Lord of the Rings…I am basically a pledge of the Tri-lams:

    http://www.grudge-ma...

    And by the way, the link didn’t work before:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    “You’ll shoot your thigh out!”

  • Brian | December 10, 2008 at 9:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”304794″]I’m still contemplating how many pinstripes there’ll be around each thigh of Sabbathia’s pantlegs. Gotta be a Yankee record.

    But that’s just me. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Maybe they’ll just pull a George Costanza, and break out Babe Ruth’s old duds.

  • jesse | December 10, 2008 at 9:35 pm |

    Concerning the Yanks offseason moves, the sons are behaving like Dad. Spend too much money on free agents, ( CC, D-Lowe? Burnett? Petite? Sheets?)All too old/injuries to be getting those long contracts. Go Sox, Go Nats

  • Adam | December 10, 2008 at 9:50 pm |

    Interesting fact here, the ECHL is mandating a jersey switch, as displayed in the FAQs.

    When is the jersey reversal date?

    ECHL teams will wear their white jerseys from Oct. 17-Jan. 20 and their dark jerseys from Jan. 25-Apr. 4.

  • LI Phil | December 10, 2008 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”304796″][quote comment=”304795″]And by the way, the link didn’t work before:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    “You’ll shoot your thigh out!”[/quote]

    ban?

  • Mike Engle | December 10, 2008 at 10:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”304800″]Interesting fact here, the ECHL is mandating a jersey switch, as displayed in the FAQs.

    When is the jersey reversal date?

    ECHL teams will wear their white jerseys from Oct. 17-Jan. 20 and their dark jerseys from Jan. 25-Apr. 4.[/quote]
    At first, I read that comment and thought, “What? Jersey switch? More EDGE shenanigans?” But after re-reading it, and thinking about the FAQ, you probably meant to say that the ECHL goes “white at home” for the first half of the year, and goes “colored at home” the second. Right?

  • Mike Engle | December 10, 2008 at 11:57 pm |

    First Jewish Mets fan to buy a JJ jersey is a putz!

  • LI Phil | December 11, 2008 at 12:02 am |

    [quote comment=”304804″]First Jewish Mets fan to buy a JJ jersey is a putz![/quote]

    oy

    zai gezunt heilman

  • JTH | December 11, 2008 at 12:04 am |

    Oh yeah, another color vs. color game featuring Illinois tonight. *Yawn*.

    Caption this?

  • LI Phil | December 11, 2008 at 12:10 am |

    [quote comment=”304806″]Caption this?[/quote]

    shut the fuck up! now…vader, he’s a spiritual brother, y’know, down with the force and all that good shit…then this cracker, skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he’s gonna run the fuckin’ universe…gets a whole clan of whites together…and they go and bust up vader’s hood, the death star…

    now what the fuck do you call that?

  • JTH | December 11, 2008 at 12:11 am |

    Whats a Nubian?

  • Mike Engle | December 11, 2008 at 12:12 am |

    [quote comment=”304807″][quote comment=”304806″]Caption this?[/quote]

    shut the fuck up! now…vader, he’s a spiritual brother, y’know, down with the force and all that good shit…then this cracker, skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he’s gonna run the fuckin’ universe…gets a whole clan of whites together…and they go and bust up vader’s hood, the death star…

    now what the fuck do you call that?[/quote]
    What the heck, Hecken? Slightly racist?

  • LI Phil | December 11, 2008 at 12:14 am |

    [quote comment=”304808″]Whats a Nubian?[/quote]

    you got the lines backwards…but in that vein

    darth vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, nubian god!

  • JTH | December 11, 2008 at 12:17 am |

    [quote comment=”304810″][quote comment=”304808″]Whats a Nubian?[/quote]

    you got the lines backwards…but in that vein

    darth vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, nubian god![/quote]
    Did you actually want the next line? Sorry.

    OK…

    “Intergalactic civil war?”

  • LI Phil | December 11, 2008 at 12:19 am |

    gentrification! they gon’ drive out the black element to make the galaxy ‘safe’ for white folks…and Jedi’s the most insulting installment…because vader’s beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man!

    they tryin’ to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white!

  • JTH | December 11, 2008 at 12:24 am |

    [quote comment=”304812″]gentrification! they gon’ drive out the black element to make the galaxy ‘safe’ for white folks…and Jedi’s the most insulting installment…because vader’s beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man!

    they tryin’ to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white![/quote]
    Well, isn’t that true?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Thank you and good night.

  • LI Phil | December 11, 2008 at 12:25 am |

    pow

    g’nite

  • JTH | December 11, 2008 at 12:30 am |

    [quote comment=”304814″]pow

    g’nite[/quote]
    Blam blam.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I’m really done now.

  • tommy marks | December 11, 2008 at 12:42 am |

    Why is Huet, the goalie for the Blackhawks, wearing red and gold? anyone knows

  • LI Phil | December 11, 2008 at 12:43 am |

    [quote comment=”304809″][quote comment=”304807″][quote comment=”304806″]Caption this?[/quote]

    shut the fuck up! now…vader, he’s a spiritual brother, y’know, down with the force and all that good shit…then this cracker, skywalker, gets his hands on a light saber and the boy decides he’s gonna run the fuckin’ universe…gets a whole clan of whites together…and they go and bust up vader’s hood, the death star…

    now what the fuck do you call that?[/quote]
    What the heck, Hecken? Slightly racist?[/quote]

    yes

  • Mike Miller | December 11, 2008 at 1:23 am |

    Archie is *not* f***ing Mr. Weatherbee!

    Wow, Chasing Amy being quoted on UniWatch.

    Talking about pink going too far, if you turn on ESPN2 for the National Finals Rodeo, apparently it’s pint shirt night at the NFR. Just a strange sight seeing a bunch of cowboys wearing pink shirts, and some even have pink chaps on.

    No pics yet, but I’m sure their web site will have some tomorrow.

    http://www.prorodeo....

  • Joe Neumann | December 11, 2008 at 1:45 am |

    Any body else watching the WNFR (Wrangler National Finals Rodeo) tonight and notice just about every rider, roper, and referee was wearing pink? What’s up with that?

  • Joe Neumann | December 11, 2008 at 1:51 am |

    Whoops, look like I took too long to post. Dang hotel internet!

  • Joe Neumann | December 11, 2008 at 2:02 am |

    [quote comment=”304794″]I’m still contemplating how many pinstripes there’ll be around each thigh of Sabbathia’s pantlegs. Gotta be a Yankee record.

    But that’s just me. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Probably more than David Wells, but not as many as Brian Bohannon from the old days with the Rockies.

  • JTH | December 11, 2008 at 6:58 am |

    [quote comment=”304818″]Archie is *not* f***ing Mr. Weatherbee![/quote]
    Denial… denial… denial…

  • Stuby | December 11, 2008 at 7:02 am |

    [quote comment=”304794″]I’m still contemplating how many pinstripes there’ll be around each thigh of Sabbathia’s pantlegs. Gotta be a Yankee record.

    But that’s just me. LOL

    —Ricko[/quote]
    It’s not only the amount of the pinstripes, Ricko. The guy is also, like, 6’7″ so the overall length of the pinstripes, if laid end to end, could possibly reach his hometown in Northern California.

  • Adrian | December 12, 2008 at 5:23 pm |

    So anyone know why a Dr. Zaeus and another “Planet of the Ape” ape is hanging out on the right side of this photo?

    http://sportsillustr...

    “Get your dirty paws of my Heisman!”