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Fortunately, I Already Have Other Plans for Jan. 1st

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Everyone loves the NHL’s annual Winter Classic game, and who wouldn’t? The outdoor setting, the throwback uniforms, the rare national broadcast coverage, plus the whole thing takes place on New Year’s Day — it’s a blast. You’d have to work awfully hard to ruin something that’s so much fun.

But here’s one way: Turn the game into a corporate branding spectacle.

That will be the situation in a few weeks, when all fans watching the game, both live and on TV, will be encouraged to spot the one player whose uniform is not emblazoned with a Reebok logo. It’s all part of some lame-o contest, the lucky winner of which will get a hand job from Sidney Crosby or something (nauseating details here). Of course, all the other players will be wearing the logo, so the practical effect of this promotion will be to focus everyone’s attention on a corporate mark that doesn’t belong on throwback uniforms in the first place. And now all fans will have a renewed awareness of that logo in subsequent games. What a lovely way to ring in the new year. (And in case that’s not enough corporate bullshit for you, take another look at that last link and you’ll see that the NHL is appending a little “TM” on the term “Winter Classic.” Beautiful.)

Heinous marketing machinations notwithstanding, there’s another issue to consider here: This is a regular season game, not some preseason exhibition or skills contest. By turning the game into a “Where’s Waldo?” exercise, the NHL is basically telling the world not to take this game — or, by extension, the league — seriously. Or to put it another way, this is the kind of promotion I would expect from the Wilpons. My big worry now is that they’ll try to copy it.

There was a long thread in yesterday’s comments about how Canadian fans aren’t eligible to participate in the contest, and how this insulting to the sport’s Canadian fan base and/or a stupid marketing move by Reebok. But really, no self-respecting fan — American, Canadian, or otherwise — should be participating in a contest that spotlights and legitimizes the Reebok’s influence on the game. The whole thing smells. Boycott the contest, and watch the game under silent protest. Or maybe not-so-silent.

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Get Your Kicks, Continued: Yesterday’s post re: the Phillips 66ers prompted Doug Mooney to do some archival research. First he sent me this link. Just like in yesterday’s photos, all the players are wearing double-numbers (55, 11, and 66), except for Bub Kurland, who somehow got away with wearing No. 90 (although this time he’s got mis-numbered shorts). Then he sent me this, which shows still more 66ers, all wearing double numbers (also note the bead-striped basket rim).

“So it would seem that the double-number thing was a play on the double sixes,” said Doug. “But then you see stuff like this.” Hmmmmm….

Uni Watch News Ticker: I’ve been aware of the AstrosDaily blog for years, but until yesterday I wasn’t aware that it included a Astros uniform history page. If you scroll down a bit on that page, you find this tequila sunrise prototype, which I’d never seen before. Can’t believe this was sitting there on AstrosDaily all this time without my realizing it (big, big thanks to Clint Loerwald). … The Canadiens have removed the 100th-anniversary center-ice logo from the Bell Centre and replaced it with an All-Star Game logo (with thanks to Jim Thorburn). … Speaking of center ice logos, Todd Morss and Terry Proctor say this, from 1949, may be the first one ever applied to a faceoff circle. … I don’t know nothin’ ’bout no footwear, but Mike Pratt says Tony Romo was wearing new cleats on Sunday. … So when a school switches from, say, Nike to Adidas, what happens to all the old gear? Here’s one answer (with thanks to Mitchell Pinta). … Fun discussion thread here on the topic of baseball people wearing jackets and ties (with thanks to David Brown). … Excellent piece here on Willie Mays wearing No. 14 as a rookie (great find by Dave Grob). … Lots of cool sports-related T-shirts here (with thanks to Skott A. Wade). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The “Dial-a-Down Tuf-Wear” logo, which used to be visible underneath the down numeral on the Dial-a-Down thingie, has been absent from NFL sidelines this year. Guess they didn’t want to pony up some sort of fee. … Interesting NOB note from Randy Smith, who writes: “In the under-17 world hockey championships, there are five teams from Canada, so they wear their region on their nameplates, which can either be a province or a geographical area.” … Dave Lawllr notes that the orange-to-white ratio on the Islanders’ throwback pants is inconsistent. Compare this, for example, to this. Both versions are shown here. … Really nice sleeve patch here. Here’s the full eBay listing. … Remember this book? Here’s an article about the guy who wrote it (thanks, Vince). … The Red Sox will unveil some new uniform elements this Thursday. I can’t tell you all the details, although this alternate cap has already leaked. … New uniforms for the Columbus Clippers. … Very cool old uniform available here. … Everyone loves BYOB — that’s Brigham Young on back (with thanks to Bryce Christensen). … Two good finds by Andy Chalifour: (1) Terry Pendleton appears to have been wearing a soccer shinguard on his forearm. (2) We can add Jeff Tackett to our list of MLB catchers who’ve worn a brimless helmet. Andy thinks it’s actually a modified hockey helmet, although I’m not so sure — opinions? … Truly bizarre new uniforms for the Yokohama Bay Stars. The Y-neck collar is for Yokohama, natch, and the sleeves have a little notch (which I like). And look, they’ve even got logo-emblazoned scarves. Oddest of all: The home and road uniforms were designed by two different outfitters (all this courtesy of Jeremy Brahm). … Interesting book of basketball portraits here, and an interview with the author here (Vince again). … Under Armour is getting into the footwear game. That sound you just heard was Matt Powers‘s head exploding. … OK, so it’s not very big, but that there is a Quebec Nordiques baseball jersey, worn by Michel Bergeron in a charity game (with thanks to Gabe Kleinfeld). … Look, a uniform in a box! What’ll they think of next? … Greg Riffenburgh notes that Jeff Gordon was wearing a Hendrick Motor Sports lapel pin at the NASCAR awards ceremony in New York. … Good spot by Stu Taylor, who writes: “I noticed Matt Schaub had a sideline jacket emblazoned with ‘QB’ on the chest.Is this normal? I’ve never noticed it before, and I didn’t see any other position-designated jackets on the Houston sideline.” … The Greene County Tech (Ark.) girls’ hoops team has some interesting socks (with thanks to Brian Rosener).

 

206 comments to Fortunately, I Already Have Other Plans for Jan. 1st

  • Scott Little | December 9, 2008 at 8:37 am |

    The Reebok game is for Americans.

    For Canadians: If you can spot the player with all his teeth, win a tube of Denture Cream. Text pianomouth to…..

  • Teebz | December 9, 2008 at 8:46 am |

    According to an unnamed source who works for CCM, now called Reebok, that I spoke to last night, the reason for Reebok choosing this game is… and get ready for this reason…

    “It will be the game seen by the most American fans at one time this season, so Reebok felt it had the chance to capitalize on a real opportunity to market both the NHL and itself as the only on-ice apparel worn in the NHL”.

    I nearly threw up when I heard that rationalization. As true as it may be, does that mean that if the NHL hadn’t planned this game, this would all be moot and they wouldn’t have done any real marketing this year?

  • DJ | December 9, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    Yeah, those jerks at Reebok are really awful. They’re giving away trips to the Finals for the winners – how dare they do that!

    Lighten up, Paul – it’s still going to be a great event, the actual game isn’t changed at all, and as you mentioned, it’s nationally televised – if even one more person watches this game because of the contest, it’ll be a success – the NHL needs every viewer it can get right now, and who knows, maybe they’ll get more permanent fans because of it.

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    i don’t mind additional commentary on the whole USA vs. canada thingy (especially since paul turned it into his column for today), but may i respectfully request that (1) if you didn’t read yesterdays comments (for background), please do so before commenting today, and (2) no personal invective today?

    k…thanks

  • Stuby | December 9, 2008 at 8:54 am |

    I’m curious how many guys were on the Phillips basketball team at any one time. If there were more than ten players, then there would obviously be a few guys that had non-doubled numbers (since we know they used 00 at some point).

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    [quote comment=”304323″]According to an unnamed source who works for CCM, now called Reebok, that I spoke to last night, the reason for Reebok choosing this game is… and get ready for this reason…

    “It will be the game seen by the most American fans at one time this season, so Reebok felt it had the chance to capitalize on a real opportunity to market both the NHL and itself as the only on-ice apparel worn in the NHL”.

    I nearly threw up when I heard that rationalization. As true as it may be, does that mean that if the NHL hadn’t planned this game, this would all be moot and they wouldn’t have done any real marketing this year?[/quote]
    No, they would have still done a lot of marketing, but with this kind of opportunity, it would be stupid to pass it up.

    I mean they have plenty of commercials, and you see the Reebok logo and wordmark everywhere when you go to a game. But for an opportunity to market yourself to as many people as they will with this contest, its something you really can’t pass up. Sure, if the game wasn’t there, they wouldn’t be able to do the contest, no brainer, but they would still have their commercials and sponsorships.

    I really fail to see why you’re as up in arms about this as you are.

  • Marc M. | December 9, 2008 at 8:56 am |

    What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?

  • Jim MI | December 9, 2008 at 8:56 am |

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    It continues to amaze me that this type of stuff still to happans in this day of professional sports. These are professional organizations where their look is part of their brand and when you send a team (any team, not just hockey) out with stripes not being the same, colors not matching, different numerical fonts, and so on, it takes away from your professional image in my opinion.

    Or maybe we just look into these things too much… :)

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. For example, Carolina has it midfield, some NFL teams have it in the end zone or on the 25 yard lines, the Giants/Jets have theirs in the OB territory but within camera view.

    Carolina has just been having the shield at midfield ever since its inception, dating back to the days they played at Clemson. Their big thing they did this year was moving the Panther head logos from the end zones to the 25 yard lines. I really like the new look.

  • Dan the Goalie | December 9, 2008 at 9:01 am |

    Jeff Tackett’s brimless helmet is not a modified hockey helmet. That style was popular in the 70’s and 80’s, at the youth and high school level, as the mask attached directly to the helmet. The Little League version had double ear flaps, like a regular batting helmet. I wore the version Jeff Tackett’s wearing in high school in the early 80’s. As I recall, it was made by Rawlings. He’s the only major league catcher I ever saw wearing one.

  • Scott | December 9, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    Say what you will about the Astros’ “Taquila Sunrise” unis … yet, those were THE most recognizable uniforms in all of sports during their day. They branded the Astros with such differentiation that a “small-market” no-name team was immediately identifiable. Still carries through today, even though the current ‘Stros have totally veered away from its futuristic brand fidelity.

    Not to mention, if anybody played baseball as a kid in the 80s, you’d probably remember the plethora of Astro-knockoffs in little league … I remember ones that featured shades of green “sunrise,” shades of purple “sunrise” (Yes, Paul, they were nothing short of delightful), and shades of an orange/black combo “sunrise.”

    Truly one of the great uniform designs in history and a FAR CRY MORE SUPERIOR than the ubiquitous crap that’s on the field today … where everybody wears a shade of blue, pinstripes, pajama bottoms, with a script type treatment. Blah as in bland.

    Bring back the golden years of the 70s-80s!

    Cleveland in red. Pitt and Oakland in yellow. Padres in brown. Astros in orange. White Sox in butterfly collars. Teams had character then.

  • Marc M. | December 9, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    [quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. For example, Carolina has it midfield, some NFL teams have it in the end zone or on the 25 yard lines, the Giants/Jets have theirs in the OB territory but within camera view.

    Carolina has just been having the shield at midfield ever since its inception, dating back to the days they played at Clemson. Their big thing they did this year was moving the Panther head logos from the end zones to the 25 yard lines. I really like the new look.[/quote]
    Thanks, I appreciate the answer.

  • L. D. - Belgium | December 9, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    Looks like the Oaklahoma Sooners Hockey team has bottowed liberally from the Phoenix Coyotes

    http://davenportphot...

    or OUHockey.com – click on photos

  • ScottyJ in WV | December 9, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”304332″]Say what you will about the Astros’ “Taquila Sunrise” unis … yet, those were THE most recognizable uniforms in all of sports during their day. They branded the Astros with such differentiation that a “small-market” no-name team was immediately identifiable. Still carries through today, even though the current ‘Stros have totally veered away from its futuristic brand fidelity.

    Not to mention, if anybody played baseball as a kid in the 80s, you’d probably remember the plethora of Astro-knockoffs in little league … I remember ones that featured shades of green “sunrise,” shades of purple “sunrise” (Yes, Paul, they were nothing short of delightful), and shades of an orange/black combo “sunrise.”

    Truly one of the great uniform designs in history and a FAR CRY MORE SUPERIOR than the ubiquitous crap that’s on the field today … where everybody wears a shade of blue, pinstripes, pajama bottoms, with a script type treatment. Blah as in bland.

    Bring back the golden years of the 70s-80s!

    Cleveland in red. Pitt and Oakland in yellow. Padres in brown. Astros in orange. White Sox in butterfly collars. Teams had character then.[/quote]

    I’d vote for that!! Tell it Scott!

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 9:10 am |

    Can I be the first to give a big thumbs-down to the new Red Sox hat?

    Just looking at it, it doesn’t look like an on-field hat. It doesn’t look like something players would wear. It looks like one of those stupid ‘fashion hats’ that New Era loves to put out there. Whats next, are the Yankees going to take the field with an Uncle Sam’s hat logo on their caps? The Phils going to take the field with a Liberty Bell logo on their caps?

    Sorry, I don’t like it. It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags’

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    [quote]It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags’[/quote]

    isn’t that new era’s business marketing plan anyway?

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    [quote comment=”304337″][quote]It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags’[/quote]

    isn’t that new era’s business marketing plan anyway?[/quote]
    As long as they label said marketing ‘Fashion Caps’ then its all good.

    As soon as ‘Fashion Caps’ turn into ‘Authentic Caps’ (i.e. On Field Caps) then we have issues

  • Nate | December 9, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    Cool story about Billy Ripken’s “f*ck face” bat on his baseball card here:

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

  • kings33 | December 9, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    I’ll agree with the earlier posters… I think Paul is making too big a deal of this – unless, there’s a TV buy in to the promotion. If the announcers and the camerafolk start to change their coverage in any way to tie in the “Where’s Reebok-less Waldo?”, then they are truly going against what makes the outdoor game special.

    Outdoor Hockey is supposed to symbolize a purer version of the game, a metaphor for the pond hockey a lot of its fans grew up with.

    If you’re at the game, you’ve got a free pair of binoculars (probably with a Reebok logo on them), and an glossy index card explaining the promotion.

    If you’re at home, you either know about the promotion (and care or don’t care), or you don’t, unless the announcers and the production crew ram it down your throat.

    SO I think this message is really a preemptive warning to the producers of the broadcast… don’t screw up this event by turning it into a complete shill for the rest of us.

  • Jim MI | December 9, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    I love that Winter Classic logo by the way…

  • Kek | December 9, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”304336″]Can I be the first to give a big thumbs-down to the new Red Sox hat?

    Just looking at it, it doesn’t look like an on-field hat. It doesn’t look like something players would wear. It looks like one of those stupid ‘fashion hats’ that New Era loves to put out there. Whats next, are the Yankees going to take the field with an Uncle Sam’s hat logo on their caps? The Phils going to take the field with a Liberty Bell logo on their caps?

    Sorry, I don’t like it. It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags'[/quote]
    I’ll have to disagree. I kind of like it. I’m OK with alternate caps having a different graphic, it truly makes them more…alternate! Much more creative than slapping the same “B” on a different color cap.

    Maybe one could make the argument that a team with such history/tradition as the BoSox should be messing with this, well, that ship sailed when they added red alternate jerseys, put names on the backs of the road jersey and have flirted with red and white alternate caps in the past.

  • Johnny Bacardi | December 9, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    Cool Astros uniform page, but someone needs to inform the writer that those “multi-tiered art flowers” on the Atlanta Braves’ 70’s uni sleeves were FEATHERS. You know, as in BRAVES. As in NATIVE AMERICAN HEADDRESS.

  • u2-horn | December 9, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”304331″]Jeff Tackett’s brimless helmet is not a modified hockey helmet. That style was popular in the 70’s and 80’s, at the youth and high school level, as the mask attached directly to the helmet. The Little League version had double ear flaps, like a regular batting helmet. I wore the version Jeff Tackett’s wearing in high school in the early 80’s. As I recall, it was made by Rawlings. He’s the only major league catcher I ever saw wearing one.[/quote]

    That answer is spot-on! I believe our city’s youth baseball organization would issue this style of catcher’s helmet/mask to all the teams. Here’s me in my brief stint as a catcher–you can sort of see the brimless helmet in my lap:

    http://i33.photobuck...

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”304342″][quote comment=”304336″]Can I be the first to give a big thumbs-down to the new Red Sox hat?

    Just looking at it, it doesn’t look like an on-field hat. It doesn’t look like something players would wear. It looks like one of those stupid ‘fashion hats’ that New Era loves to put out there. Whats next, are the Yankees going to take the field with an Uncle Sam’s hat logo on their caps? The Phils going to take the field with a Liberty Bell logo on their caps?

    Sorry, I don’t like it. It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags'[/quote]
    I’ll have to disagree. I kind of like it. I’m OK with alternate caps having a different graphic, it truly makes them more…alternate! Much more creative than slapping the same “B” on a different color cap.

    Maybe one could make the argument that a team with such history/tradition as the BoSox should be messing with this, well, that ship sailed when they added red alternate jerseys, put names on the backs of the road jersey and have flirted with red and white alternate caps in the past.[/quote]
    With that said, there was always one constant… the B on the cap

    I mean really, will this be the first EVER official on-field cap the RedSox have had without a B on it?

  • Boston Nick | December 9, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    I’m kinda hoping that new uni elements for the Sox include the return to the blue and white stripes above the red on the stirrups. That would just be beautiful to have back.

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”304340″]I’ll agree with the earlier posters… I think Paul is making too big a deal of this – unless, there’s a TV buy in to the promotion. If the announcers and the camerafolk start to change their coverage in any way to tie in the “Where’s Reebok-less Waldo?”, then they are truly going against what makes the outdoor game special.

    Outdoor Hockey is supposed to symbolize a purer version of the game, a metaphor for the pond hockey a lot of its fans grew up with.

    If you’re at the game, you’ve got a free pair of binoculars (probably with a Reebok logo on them), and an glossy index card explaining the promotion.

    If you’re at home, you either know about the promotion (and care or don’t care), or you don’t, unless the announcers and the production crew ram it down your throat.

    SO I think this message is really a preemptive warning to the producers of the broadcast… don’t screw up this event by turning it into a complete shill for the rest of us.[/quote]
    Hear, hear. I think I’ll need to invest in one of those things that lets you sync up your radio with the TV so you can account for the satellite lag. I’ll watch as much of the game as I can, but ain’t no way I’m listening to a giant Reebok infomercial.

  • Stuby | December 9, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”304344″][quote comment=”304331″]Jeff Tackett’s brimless helmet is not a modified hockey helmet. That style was popular in the 70’s and 80’s, at the youth and high school level, as the mask attached directly to the helmet. The Little League version had double ear flaps, like a regular batting helmet. I wore the version Jeff Tackett’s wearing in high school in the early 80’s. As I recall, it was made by Rawlings. He’s the only major league catcher I ever saw wearing one.[/quote]

    That answer is spot-on! I believe our city’s youth baseball organization would issue this style of catcher’s helmet/mask to all the teams. Here’s me in my brief stint as a catcher–you can sort of see the brimless helmet in my lap:

    http://i33.photobuck...
    Are those turf shoes?

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    Wow, the Diamondbacks logo in no way resembles that cap logo on the Astros’ prototype, does it?

  • Jason | December 9, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    If I’m going to look for misplaced or missing logos, I’m going to do it solely because I want to see my name in the Uni-Watch ticker…not because someone tells me I have to:)

  • Kek | December 9, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”304347″][quote comment=”304340″]I’ll agree with the earlier posters… I think Paul is making too big a deal of this – unless, there’s a TV buy in to the promotion. If the announcers and the camerafolk start to change their coverage in any way to tie in the “Where’s Reebok-less Waldo?”, then they are truly going against what makes the outdoor game special.

    Outdoor Hockey is supposed to symbolize a purer version of the game, a metaphor for the pond hockey a lot of its fans grew up with.

    If you’re at the game, you’ve got a free pair of binoculars (probably with a Reebok logo on them), and an glossy index card explaining the promotion.

    If you’re at home, you either know about the promotion (and care or don’t care), or you don’t, unless the announcers and the production crew ram it down your throat.

    SO I think this message is really a preemptive warning to the producers of the broadcast… don’t screw up this event by turning it into a complete shill for the rest of us.[/quote]
    Hear, hear. I think I’ll need to invest in one of those things that lets you sync up your radio with the TV so you can account for the satellite lag. I’ll watch as much of the game as I can, but ain’t no way I’m listening to a giant Reebok infomercial.[/quote]
    This will be no more annoying than trying to sit through a baseball or football game on FOX and listening to Joe Buck do endless spots for The Simpsons, House and Prison Break.

  • Jim MI | December 9, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    Canadiens have a new practice facility…. wow

    http://canadiens.nhl...

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”304345″][quote comment=”304342″][quote comment=”304336″]Can I be the first to give a big thumbs-down to the new Red Sox hat?

    Just looking at it, it doesn’t look like an on-field hat. It doesn’t look like something players would wear. It looks like one of those stupid ‘fashion hats’ that New Era loves to put out there. Whats next, are the Yankees going to take the field with an Uncle Sam’s hat logo on their caps? The Phils going to take the field with a Liberty Bell logo on their caps?

    Sorry, I don’t like it. It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags'[/quote]
    I’ll have to disagree. I kind of like it. I’m OK with alternate caps having a different graphic, it truly makes them more…alternate! Much more creative than slapping the same “B” on a different color cap.

    Maybe one could make the argument that a team with such history/tradition as the BoSox should be messing with this, well, that ship sailed when they added red alternate jerseys, put names on the backs of the road jersey and have flirted with red and white alternate caps in the past.[/quote]
    With that said, there was always one constant… the B on the cap

    I mean really, will this be the first EVER official on-field cap the RedSox have had without a B on it?[/quote]
    Well, the original caps had no logo at all.

    Anyway, those things are fine as batting practice caps (if you absolutely must have a BP cap). And that secondary logo would look fine as a sleeve patch, but on a game cap, it’s totally bush league. Hell, even a blue alt jersey (again, if you absolutely must have an alt jersey) with that in place of the RED SOX wordmark would be OK if worn with a regular cap.

  • u2-horn | December 9, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”304348″][quote comment=”304344″][quote comment=”304331″]

    http://i33.photobuck...
    Are those turf shoes?[/quote]

    Yep–the fields we played on were pretty much like playing on dirt-covered concrete, so turf shoes were much preferred for playing in the infield and running bases.

  • u2-horn | December 9, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    oops–here

    Yep–the fields we played on were pretty much like playing on dirt-covered concrete, so turf shoes were much preferred for playing in the infield and running bases.

  • Todd Morss | December 9, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    I need to correct my email I sent to Paul- I’m not sure that Quebec Aces logo is the first one ever put on ice, but I do think it could be the first one that was the full faceoff circle.

  • Jim MI | December 9, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    NYI and PHI play tonight and I am hoping that they both wear their third jersey. They have two of the better ones in the league.

    Lets also hope NYI can get their stripe issue under control :)

  • El Boydelz | December 9, 2008 at 9:45 am |

    Is this a legit leak of the new Sox jersey? If so, I like it:

    http://soxanddawgs.c...

  • Paul Lukas | December 9, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”304358″]Is this a legit leak of the new Sox jersey?[/quote]

    No.

  • El Boydelz | December 9, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    If it was, what would you think?

  • scott | December 9, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”304345″][quote comment=”304342″][quote comment=”304336″]Can I be the first to give a big thumbs-down to the new Red Sox hat?

    Just looking at it, it doesn’t look like an on-field hat. It doesn’t look like something players would wear. It looks like one of those stupid ‘fashion hats’ that New Era loves to put out there. Whats next, are the Yankees going to take the field with an Uncle Sam’s hat logo on their caps? The Phils going to take the field with a Liberty Bell logo on their caps?

    Sorry, I don’t like it. It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags'[/quote]
    I’ll have to disagree. I kind of like it. I’m OK with alternate caps having a different graphic, it truly makes them more…alternate! Much more creative than slapping the same “B” on a different color cap.

    Maybe one could make the argument that a team with such history/tradition as the BoSox should be messing with this, well, that ship sailed when they added red alternate jerseys, put names on the backs of the road jersey and have flirted with red and white alternate caps in the past.[/quote]
    With that said, there was always one constant… the B on the cap

    I mean really, will this be the first EVER official on-field cap the RedSox have had without a B on it?[/quote]

    No. They’ve had official game caps with socks on them in the distant past.

    I’m not too bothered by the new caps. The Cardinals alternate Sunday caps with the bird on bat is a nice change from the usual StL headwear.

  • sonny | December 9, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    I dig those Astros hats.

  • chance | December 9, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”304360″][quote comment=”304358″]Is this a legit leak of the new Sox jersey?[/quote]

    No.[/quote]

    That’s a concept from the Chris Creamer board, few years back.

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”304362″] The Cardinals alternate Sunday caps with the bird on bat is a nice change from the usual StL headwear.[/quote]
    The Cardinals’ red cap is the best in baseball. The “bird on bat” cap is a major downgrade.

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”304365″][quote comment=”304362″] The Cardinals alternate Sunday caps with the bird on bat is a nice change from the usual StL headwear.[/quote]
    The Cardinals’ red cap is the best in baseball. The “bird on bat” cap is a major downgrade.[/quote]
    Agreed

    Any of the logos with wide bodies does not look good on a cap. Like the Cards’ alternate, the O’s caps, the old Phils caps with the star, and now these Sox hats…

    Just looks like a patch, not a cap logo… I don’t like it

  • Jordan | December 9, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    Count me in with the crowd that doesn’t see the big deal with the Reebok Marketing ploy

  • chance | December 9, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. For example, Carolina has it midfield, some NFL teams have it in the end zone or on the 25 yard lines, the Giants/Jets have theirs in the OB territory but within camera view.
    [/quote]
    Actually, Giants Stadium has it at midfield as well.

  • Hank | December 9, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”304352″]Canadiens have a new practice facility…. wow

    http://canadiens.nhl...

    Nice looking digs. But has Canada, or Quebec specifically, abandonded the metric system? Take a look at the therapy pool pic, notice the depth markings are in feet (5) and not meters? Hmmmm . . .

  • War Damn Eagle | December 9, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    how about the new alt caps as an homage to the 1931 caps?

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Hank | December 9, 2008 at 10:28 am |

    The QB on Matt Schaub’s parka is a reminder for what position he plays should he sustain a hellacious bell ringing on the prior series.

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”304368″][quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. For example, Carolina has it midfield, some NFL teams have it in the end zone or on the 25 yard lines, the Giants/Jets have theirs in the OB territory but within camera view.
    [/quote]
    Actually, Giants Stadium has it at midfield as well.[/quote]
    Yeah, I remembered that after I wrote it. they still have it on the sidelines, though…

    All I know is that the NFL mandates it has to be there. Doesn’t matter where, as long as its viewable on TV.

    Kind of like the ACC and the logos on the basketball court/football field.

  • War Damn Eagle | December 9, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    there was nothing on the red sox hats from 1901 to 1930, then 1 year with the sock, and then the many iterations of the “B” began. at least, that’s according to the uniform database, which may or may not be accurate.

  • timmy b | December 9, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”304356″]I need to correct my email I sent to Paul- I’m not sure that Quebec Aces logo is the first one ever put on ice, but I do think it could be the first one that was the full faceoff circle.[/quote]

    The Maple Leafs had the little blue maple leaf at center ice of MLG going back to before the center red line. I’m thinking it was as far back as 1934 when they had a ceremonial face-off for the Ace Bailey benefit all-star game in 1934.

  • oilfan | December 9, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    FYI – the U17 World Hockey Challenge is not an official World Championship. It’s mainly a showcase for NHL scouts to take a look at the upcoming crop of future draft picks and for Hockey Canada to give kids in the Program of Excellence a taste of competition on the world stage.

    The only official World Championships are U18, U20 (Junior,) and Sr. Mens.

  • timmy b | December 9, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    My all-time favorite mid-field adornment was when the K.C. Chiefs played at old Municipal Stadium and on the left 45 yard line was the opponents’ right side view helmet and on the right side 45 yard line was the Chiefs’ left side view helmet. Used this from c.1968 thru 1971.

  • KF | December 9, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    Was the Phillips 66 semi-pro team really a team or just a big promotional stunt? The uni numbers, the supposed stopping of scoring at 66, the players actively defending players without the ball in the photos…all of it sounds fishy to me. I understand it could be both, but it seems like the actual playing of basketball was secondary. But, it was before my time.

  • Terri | December 9, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    I get that reebok is drawing attention to a logo that shouldn’t be there in the first place, and that they’re doing it in a game that’s supposed to get back to hockey’s roots.

    That said, I’d practically sell my soul for a trip to the Stanley Cup Finals, so I’ll be playing.

  • Stan aka The Took | December 9, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    The Clippers new logo sucks, I loved the old one (I don’t even watch them, live any where near the team, can’t name who they are affiliated too etc, etc but that logo WAS awesome). I love it so much I went on their site and bought the hat (7 1/8 is my size and they had that size and some tiny 6 3/4 or something like that)

    About the NHL Winter Classic… well it’s a shitty thing from a shitty brand (does anyone buy reebooks anymore?). Like someone mentioned today or yesterday maybe it will get some eyes on the sport.

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”304376″]My all-time favorite mid-field adornment was when the K.C. Chiefs played at old Municipal Stadium and on the left 45 yard line was the opponents’ right side view helmet and on the right side 45 yard line was the Chiefs’ left side view helmet. Used this from c.1968 thru 1971.[/quote]
    While searching for a picture of this, I came across a great NFL helmet cart shot from the coin flip at the 1971 Pro Bowl.

  • Leo | December 9, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”304352″]Canadiens have a new practice facility…. wow

    http://canadiens.nhl...

    When I opened the link, it had an add for RBK’s promotion. For a Canadian hockey team not taking part in the game. Curiouser and curiouser.

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    Taking a cue from Army football, maybe this year the Padres will lose the camo jerseys. Instead they’ll wear their regular navy shirts with camo pants.

    Gosh, won’t that look swell.
    (sarcasm tags here)

    Giggle. Sorry. Was just imagining what that would look like.

  • jon | December 9, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    ok two things. first, i agree that this whole reebok contest is getting overblown. i actually find it to be incredibly clever. maybe its overstepping the bounds a bit, but its going to be fun and its during a game that is meant to be fun, so what’s the big deal? i understand that some just dislike corporate influence, period, but in today’s world that’s how it is and that’s how its gonna stay (and that’s how your prices for most things are so low). besides, i guarantee they sell at least one more jersey because of this because people will be inspecting the finer points of them and see how cool they look. well played by reebok, imo.
    second, can anyone tell me why no one has a problem with the isle’s third jersey being a different shade of blue than their shorts? saying that that’s how it was in the past isn’t an argument – it looked stupid then and it looks stupid now. people complain about any other team having the problem of the shells or pants, whatever the particular team wears, not matching the jerseys (phoenix comes to mind), and no one says anything about this just because it’s a throwback. it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me.

  • Peter | December 9, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    “it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me”.

    Hence perfect for Islanders hockey today….

  • Roger Faso | December 9, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    The ticker item on the Columbus Clippers prompted me to research their name. Columbus is in the middle of Ohio. Why call them the Clippers? It’s kinda like Arizona Bobsleds.

    Anyways … I went to their site and they’ve had some interesting unis. Check out the striped collar and stovetop hat on Steve Balboni …

    http://clippersbaseb...

    BTW. Still no word on why they’re the Clippers.

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”304381″][quote comment=”304352″]Canadiens have a new practice facility…. wow

    http://canadiens.nhl...

    When I opened the link, it had an add for RBK’s promotion. For a Canadian hockey team not taking part in the game. Curiouser and curiouser.[/quote]
    If you’re living in the US, don’t think too much into it.

    These ads reference your IP address in order to figure out where you are located geographically and show you the ads they have in storage that would apply to you. In theory, as long as the ad space is hosted by the same place, you could be looking at a website in Russian and be seeing ads that apply to you here in the States.

  • Bryant | December 9, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    Speaking of Army, does anyone know what font the Black Knights use for their primary word mark?

    Thanks.

  • Jim MI | December 9, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”304383″]ok two things. first, i agree that this whole reebok contest is getting overblown. i actually find it to be incredibly clever. maybe its overstepping the bounds a bit, but its going to be fun and its during a game that is meant to be fun, so what’s the big deal? i understand that some just dislike corporate influence, period, but in today’s world that’s how it is and that’s how its gonna stay (and that’s how your prices for most things are so low). besides, i guarantee they sell at least one more jersey because of this because people will be inspecting the finer points of them and see how cool they look. well played by reebok, imo.
    second, can anyone tell me why no one has a problem with the isle’s third jersey being a different shade of blue than their shorts? saying that that’s how it was in the past isn’t an argument – it looked stupid then and it looks stupid now. people complain about any other team having the problem of the shells or pants, whatever the particular team wears, not matching the jerseys (phoenix comes to mind), and no one says anything about this just because it’s a throwback. it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me.[/quote]

    I have a problem with it, I’ve had a history of talking about it. Including earlier today…

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    “it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me”.

    “It costs a lot of money to look this cheap.”
    —Dolly Parton, on the Tonight Show

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”304385″]The ticker item on the Columbus Clippers prompted me to research their name. Columbus is in the middle of Ohio. Why call them the Clippers? It’s kinda like Arizona Bobsleds.

    Anyways … I went to their site and they’ve had some interesting unis. Check out the striped collar and stovetop hat on Steve Balboni …

    http://clippersbaseb...

    BTW. Still no word on why they’re the Clippers.[/quote]

    Something to do with so much aircraft industry in Ohio, maybe?
    I know they at one time had a logo with, like, a WWII plane in it.

  • Peter | December 9, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”304385″]

    http://clippersbaseb...

    BTW. Still no word on why they’re the Clippers.[/quote]

    Well, I thought the new “C” looked like a cleveland cavalier “C”…and since they are affiliated with the Indians this year, I figured it was just a way to somehow incorporate the city of cleveland with the teams identity…

    but I am probably am wrong.

  • Paul Lukas | December 9, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”304383″]i guarantee they sell at least one more jersey because of this because people will be inspecting the finer points of them and see how cool they look.[/quote]

    So your line of reasoning is, “It’s a good sales technique, therefore it’s OK”?

    I realize you think you just made your point, but you really just made mine.

  • Bryant | December 9, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    I always associated the Clippers name with the Yankees and Joe DiMaggio. I thought that Clippers had a great opportunity to change their identity and stop invoking memories of being affiliated with the Yankees. The only possible remaining link to their moniker in this land-locked city is the connection with Christopher Columbus and the replica of the Santa Maria that is docked downtown in the Scioto River.

  • chance | December 9, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”304383″]i understand that some just dislike corporate influence, period, but in today’s world that’s how it is and that’s how its gonna stay (and that’s how your prices for most things are so low).[/quote]

    Surely you aren’t suggesting that the prices for the Winter Classic are being kept “low” by corporate sponsors?

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”304392″][quote comment=”304383″]i guarantee they sell at least one more jersey because of this because people will be inspecting the finer points of them and see how cool they look.[/quote]

    So your line of reasoning is, “It’s a good sales technique, therefore it’s OK”?

    I realize you think you just made your point, but you really just made mine.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”304392″][quote comment=”304383″]i guarantee they sell at least one more jersey because of this because people will be inspecting the finer points of them and see how cool they look.[/quote]

    So your line of reasoning is, “It’s a good sales technique, therefore it’s OK”?

    I realize you think you just made your point, but you really just made mine.[/quote]

    And how appropriate, too, coming on the Red Sox’ “New Alternate Hats For No Earthly Reason Except To Sell More Hats” Day.

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”304393″]The only possible remaining link to their moniker in this land-locked city is the connection with Christopher Columbus and the replica of the Santa Maria that is docked downtown in the Scioto River.[/quote]
    And even that makes no sense. I’m certainly no nautical historian, but the Santa Maria was not a clipper. In fact, I don’t think clipper ships even existed until the 18th or 19th century.

    Wasn’t the Santa Maria a galleon or like a proto-galleon of some sort?

  • Terri | December 9, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    Update on the Fudd hats-
    I posted yesterday that I had ordered one over a month ago when they were up on mlb.com for a day, and not only were they backordered, but mlb.com sent me an email saying they hadn’t even gotten a shipment from New Era yet.
    Well, I just got an email saying my hat has shipped, so apparently production is catching up to demand.

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”304384″]”it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me”.

    Hence perfect for Islanders hockey today….[/quote]

    *sigh*

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”304396″][quote comment=”304393″]The only possible remaining link to their moniker in this land-locked city is the connection with Christopher Columbus and the replica of the Santa Maria that is docked downtown in the Scioto River.[/quote]
    And even that makes no sense. I’m certainly no nautical historian, but the Santa Maria was not a clipper. In fact, I don’t think clipper ships even existed until the 18th or 19th century.

    Wasn’t the Santa Maria a galleon or like a proto-galleon of some sort?[/quote]

    Check Ohio aviation history. The company that built the original China Clipper as well as other flying boats for the Nav was based there for a time. As was Curtiss-Wright, which built TONS of aircraft during WWII

  • Josh | December 9, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    OK random question. I have a coffee table book, “Baseball’s Book of Firsts.” Lots of fun uni shots but here was a puzzler. They had a photo of Cal Ripken driving around Camden Yards for game 2131 on top of a red Corvette. The Corvette’s license plate is from Michigan…..couldn’t they find a Maryland Corvette convertible? Im sure no one has an answer but if anyone might it would be these readers.

    Josh
    Oak Park, IL

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    Hence, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Y’know, where they keep all the alien bodies?

  • Teebz | December 9, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”304383″]ok two things. first, i agree that this whole reebok contest is getting overblown. i actually find it to be incredibly clever. maybe its overstepping the bounds a bit, but its going to be fun and its during a game that is meant to be fun, so what’s the big deal? i understand that some just dislike corporate influence, period, but in today’s world that’s how it is and that’s how its gonna stay (and that’s how your prices for most things are so low). besides, i guarantee they sell at least one more jersey because of this because people will be inspecting the finer points of them and see how cool they look. well played by reebok, imo.
    [/quote]

    1. All of their prices are higher and remain higher than they did before they bought the contract for the NHL. Cost of a pro jersey in the CCM era? $225 USD. Cost in the Rbk era? $350 USD. Lower prices? My ass.

    2. The game is the reason to tune in, not some garbage promotion. Reebok has removed the element of people watching the game by turning it into a sideshow. What’s more important – the game or Reebok?

    3. Reebok has had a number of god-awful hockey commercials in the past, so clearly their marketing team sucks like an industrial vacuum if they still need to get word out that they are the on-ice apparel providers.

    4. I’m pretty sure they sell jerseys based on the look of the jersey and the allegiance of the team, not the Rbk logo on the neck, sleeves, and hemline.

  • Zach | December 9, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    this one is for you Paul. It’s from the Baltimore Sun, asking if the Ravens coaches should wear purple on the sidelines, because they wore lavender sunday night.

    http://www.baltimore...

  • SteveABQ | December 9, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”304324″]Yeah, those jerks at Reebok are really awful. They’re giving away trips to the Finals for the winners – how dare they do that!

    Lighten up, Paul – it’s still going to be a great event, the actual game isn’t changed at all, and as you mentioned, it’s nationally televised – if even one more person watches this game because of the contest, it’ll be a success – the NHL needs every viewer it can get right now, and who knows, maybe they’ll get more permanent fans because of it.[/quote]

    I have to echo these comments too, I mean c’mon the frickin’ logos will be there anyway, at least this way some lucky fan can benefit when they see them. In a way this is getting more fans paying attention to exactly what this blog is about “Athletics Aesthetics.” Who knows maybe it will prompt some young (or even old) to do an internet search about unis…find this blog and well you know. Alternatively, we could all get together and start picketing outside Wrigley field demanding proper treatment of sports uniforms…

  • Dane | December 9, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. [/quote]

    I don’t seem to see an NFL shield on the field at Texas Stadium…

    http://www.stadiumso...

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote]this whole reebok contest is getting overblown. i actually find it to be incredibly clever. maybe its overstepping the bounds a bit, but its going to be fun and its during a game that is meant to be fun, so what’s the big deal?[/quote]

    so the premise of “don’t watch the game, for the actual game’s sake (despite the fact that last year’s game was a smashing success, played outdoors in a football stadium with outstanding throwbacks, and this year’s game promises even more)…because that is surely not enough to entertain you…watch the game so you can focus on our missing logo (and maybe win a prize {canucks need not apply})” is ok with you then?

    do you really need a contest in order to get you to watch what will be the most awesome hockey spectacle this year (pre-playoffs anyway)?

    the mere fact that we’ve now spent two days debating this is proof rbk has already won

    and it’s disgusting

  • Teebz | December 9, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”304398″][quote comment=”304384″]”it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me”.

    Hence perfect for Islanders hockey today….[/quote]

    *sigh*[/quote]

    Hey, they won a few Cups… 30 years ago. I’m still scarred by the Milbury era, and I don’t even like the Isles. LOL

  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”304347″][quote comment=”304340″]I’ll agree with the earlier posters… I think Paul is making too big a deal of this – unless, there’s a TV buy in to the promotion. If the announcers and the camerafolk start to change their coverage in any way to tie in the “Where’s Reebok-less Waldo?”, then they are truly going against what makes the outdoor game special.

    Outdoor Hockey is supposed to symbolize a purer version of the game, a metaphor for the pond hockey a lot of its fans grew up with.

    If you’re at the game, you’ve got a free pair of binoculars (probably with a Reebok logo on them), and an glossy index card explaining the promotion.

    If you’re at home, you either know about the promotion (and care or don’t care), or you don’t, unless the announcers and the production crew ram it down your throat.

    SO I think this message is really a preemptive warning to the producers of the broadcast… don’t screw up this event by turning it into a complete shill for the rest of us.[/quote]
    Hear, hear. I think I’ll need to invest in one of those things that lets you sync up your radio with the TV so you can account for the satellite lag. I’ll watch as much of the game as I can, but ain’t no way I’m listening to a giant Reebok infomercial.[/quote]

    They had small “nubs” that were used on turf.

    And my head is fine, but as usual, UA is designing shoes that look very sililar to Nikes.

    Proof:

    #1. Under Armour Spectre:

    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Nike Air Edge Trainer:

    http://www.besportie...

    2. UA Proto Speed:

    http://a712.g.akamai...

    Nike Vapor Jet:

    http://a712.g.akamai...

  • holycalamity | December 9, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”304345″]I mean really, will this be the first EVER official on-field cap the RedSox have had without a B on it?[/quote]Not “ever”. They had the socks logo in the old days: http://www.distantre...

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”304408″]They had small “nubs” that were used on turf.

    And my head is fine, but as usual, UA is designing shoes that look very sililar to Nikes.

    Proof:

    #1. Under Armour Spectre:

    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Nike Air Edge Trainer:

    http://www.besportie...

    2. UA Proto Speed:

    http://a712.g.akamai...

    Nike Vapor Jet:

    http://a712.g.akamai...

    thanks ;)

  • Peter | December 9, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”304407″][quote comment=”304398″][quote comment=”304384″]”it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me”.

    Hence perfect for Islanders hockey today….[/quote]

    *sigh*[/quote]

    Hey, they won a few Cups… 30 years ago. I’m still scarred by the Milbury era, and I don’t even like the Isles. LOL[/quote]

    I am quite aware of thier history…that’s why I said “today”…not nearly as inept as the Detroit Lions….but getting there…they have to surpass the Winnipeg “Goals for Kids” Jets/Coyotes first….

    But you have to admit, the Islanders organization have been corrupting their own franchise since 93-94…

  • DarkAudit | December 9, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. For example, Carolina has it midfield, some NFL teams have it in the end zone or on the 25 yard lines, the Giants/Jets have theirs in the OB territory but within camera view.

    Carolina has just been having the shield at midfield ever since its inception, dating back to the days they played at Clemson. Their big thing they did this year was moving the Panther head logos from the end zones to the 25 yard lines. I really like the new look.[/quote]

    The Steelers put the NFL Shield on the sideline. One endzone is simple white stripes, and the other end reads “Pittsburgh”. Is there an NCAA rule that makes them do this since they share Heinz Field with Pitt?

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”304401″]Hence, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Y’know, where they keep all the alien bodies?[/quote]
    Right — in Hangar 18. Everyone knows that.

    Of course, Wright-Patterson is in (or near) Dayton, not Columbus.

  • Jim MI | December 9, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”304406″][quote]this whole reebok contest is getting overblown. i actually find it to be incredibly clever. maybe its overstepping the bounds a bit, but its going to be fun and its during a game that is meant to be fun, so what’s the big deal?[/quote]

    so the premise of “don’t watch the game, for the actual game’s sake (despite the fact that last year’s game was a smashing success, played outdoors in a football stadium with outstanding throwbacks, and this year’s game promises even more)…because that is surely not enough to entertain you…watch the game so you can focus on our missing logo (and maybe win a prize {canucks need not apply})” is ok with you then?

    do you really need a contest in order to get you to watch what will be the most awesome hockey spectacle this year (pre-playoffs anyway)?

    the mere fact that we’ve now spent two days debating this is proof rbk has already won

    and it’s disgusting[/quote]

    I am starting to regret even bringing it up… what have I started!

    When I read it, I have to admit, I didn’t think of it like this. I thought (From a UW point of view) “SWEET! At least ONE jersey will be without RBKs stupid logo, making it more of a throwback than the others!”

    Never thought we’d get this deep into it…

  • Teebz | December 9, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”304411″][quote comment=”304407″][quote comment=”304398″][quote comment=”304384″]”it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me”.

    Hence perfect for Islanders hockey today….[/quote]

    *sigh*[/quote]

    Hey, they won a few Cups… 30 years ago. I’m still scarred by the Milbury era, and I don’t even like the Isles. LOL[/quote]

    I am quite aware of thier history…that’s why I said “today”…not nearly as inept as the Detroit Lions….but getting there…they have to surpass the Winnipeg “Goals for Kids” Jets/Coyotes first….

    But you have to admit, the Islanders organization have been corrupting their own franchise since 93-94…[/quote]

    Hey, the Jets gave a ton of money away every year for kids’ charities. It’s probably why they couldn’t sign Selanne and had to trade him to Anaheim.

    Phoenix? They’re simply dumping truckloads in their parking lot and letting the wind carry it away. LOL

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”304413″][quote comment=”304401″]Hence, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Y’know, where they keep all the alien bodies?[/quote]
    Right — in Hangar 18. Everyone knows that.

    Of course, Wright-Patterson is in (or near) Dayton, not Columbus.[/quote]

    Yup, just meant the “Wright” in Curtis-Wright was THAT Wright.

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”304416″][quote comment=”304413″][quote comment=”304401″]Hence, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Y’know, where they keep all the alien bodies?[/quote]
    Right — in Hangar 18. Everyone knows that.

    Of course, Wright-Patterson is in (or near) Dayton, not Columbus.[/quote]

    Yup, just meant the “Wright” in Curtis-Wright was THAT Wright.[/quote]
    I see. Funny, I always assumed it was named after Orville and/or Wilbur.

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”304417″][quote comment=”304416″][quote comment=”304413″][quote comment=”304401″]Hence, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Y’know, where they keep all the alien bodies?[/quote]
    Right — in Hangar 18. Everyone knows that.

    Of course, Wright-Patterson is in (or near) Dayton, not Columbus.[/quote]

    Yup, just meant the “Wright” in Curtis-Wright was THAT Wright.[/quote]
    I see. Funny, I always assumed it was named after Orville and/or Wilbur.[/quote]
    Cripes. NEVER MIND!

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

  • Teebz | December 9, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”304416″][quote comment=”304413″][quote comment=”304401″]Hence, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Y’know, where they keep all the alien bodies?[/quote]
    Right — in Hangar 18. Everyone knows that.

    Of course, Wright-Patterson is in (or near) Dayton, not Columbus.[/quote]

    Yup, just meant the “Wright” in Curtis-Wright was THAT Wright.[/quote]

    Paging Abbott and Costello… ;o)

  • Chip | December 9, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    When the Clippers started play in the mid-70’s, they were a Pirates affiliate. That could explain the Clipper ship logo.

  • John | December 9, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    Anyone know what the green logo, as seen in this video, on the NFL coach’s jackets mean? I’ve noticed it on almost all coachs winter jackets.
    http://www.nfl.com/v...

  • Peter | December 9, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”304415″][quote comment=”304411″][quote comment=”304407″][quote comment=”304398″][quote comment=”304384″]”it looks very low-budget midget hockey to me”.

    Hence perfect for Islanders hockey today….[/quote]

    *sigh*[/quote]

    Hey, they won a few Cups… 30 years ago. I’m still scarred by the Milbury era, and I don’t even like the Isles. LOL[/quote]

    I am quite aware of thier history…that’s why I said “today”…not nearly as inept as the Detroit Lions….but getting there…they have to surpass the Winnipeg “Goals for Kids” Jets/Coyotes first….

    But you have to admit, the Islanders organization have been corrupting their own franchise since 93-94…[/quote]

    Hey, the Jets gave a ton of money away every year for kids’ charities. It’s probably why they couldn’t sign Selanne and had to trade him to Anaheim.

    Phoenix? They’re simply dumping truckloads in their parking lot and letting the wind carry it away. LOL[/quote]

    apparently, when they moved (and I wasn’t even aware they kept this going)…they had this patch

    http://i135.photobuc...

    Hye, I know that’s why the Jets were loved, they were very generous in the community…but nice teams finish last…

    hey, what’s the odds on the Lions breaking the 26 game losing streak of the 76-77 Bucs?

    http://espn.go.com/p...

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    You mean that Wright or THOSE Wrights?

    Or BOTH Wrights?

    Cuz they’re both right.

    Right?

    Who writes this stuff?

    (Slowwwwwly, I turned…)

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]

    “senator heuning”…i like the sound of that

  • Andrew | December 9, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    It appears the Isles pant stripes are different widths because of the different manufacturers of the pant shells. If you look at the photo gallery from the game, you can see the Reebok and Tackla pant shells all have the thin stripes, and the Easton ones are the thick stripes. Looks like Easton didn’t get the memo.

  • Fleeser | December 9, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”304379″]The Clippers new logo sucks, I loved the old one (I don’t even watch them, live any where near the team, can’t name who they are affiliated too etc, etc but that logo WAS awesome). I love it so much I went on their site and bought the hat (7 1/8 is my size and they had that size and some tiny 6 3/4 or something like that)

    About the NHL Winter Classic… well it’s a shitty thing from a shitty brand (does anyone buy reebooks anymore?). Like someone mentioned today or yesterday maybe it will get some eyes on the sport.[/quote]

    Why in the world would the Clippers change their logo/uniforms? They looked great before.

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”304428″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]

    “senator huening”…i like the sound of that[/quote]
    (fixed)

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”304431″][quote comment=”304428″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]

    “senator huening”…i like the sound of that[/quote]
    (fixed)[/quote]

    i is a idiot…ya know, when i typed it out i said “self, this doesn’t look right”…but did i actually check your email address to confirm? why would i do that…my apologies, your honor

    (still like the sound of “senator huening” tho)

  • Mike Engle | December 9, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]
    Not to be a party pooper, but I just reported it.
    These things REALLY drive me nuts. I waited 19 years to vote for POTUS (including one powerless 2004 when I had to watch the Yankees ralph their season AND Bush-43 keep his job). This eBay listing is nothing but an ass-mockery of our American government.
    /Listen MBA buddy-old-pal, if you don’t have a service or product to sell, don’t waste our time thinking you can swipe a buck out of my pocket.
    //That goes double for “highest bidder dictates my vote.”
    ///Back to Uni Watching and talking, pronto.

  • MRB | December 9, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    I’m sure you caught Darko ripping his jersey in half during an NBA game (whilst being sent to the bench).

    A synopsis:
    He pulls apart the top of his jersey a la Superman and it rips about three-quarters of the way down the middle. He sits down, looking like he has been assaulted.

    You can see his benchmates struggling to contain their laughter.

    Amazingly, the equipment people had another jersey in waiting and Darko was good to go for another couple of minutes in the fourth to spell Marc Gasol…

    The jersey should be in Springfield, or on ebay at the very least.

  • david stoops | December 9, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    The QB marking on a jacket-yes very common. Alot of teams keep stuff for QBs kickers and some specialty players (e.g. returners,WRs, holders, kick/punt etc) from the regular capes and jackets so they can get them into something warm quickly. We had large mitten type things at the ready for when guys like that came off. We had to be aware of down and distance etc. A field goal was crazy-we had guys helping guys coming off and on and someone else making sure the ball hit the net. Our end zones were open so-sometimes a ball would stray. Sorry if that was long winded.

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”304432″][quote comment=”304431″][quote comment=”304428″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]

    “senator huening”…i like the sound of that[/quote]
    (fixed)[/quote]

    i is a idiot…ya know, when i typed it out i said “self, this doesn’t look right”…but did i actually check your email address to confirm? why would i do that…my apologies, your honor

    (still like the sound of “senator huening” tho)[/quote]
    It ain’t the first time my name’s been misspelled and it certainly won’t be the last time.

    How many times you been referred to as, Lil’ Phil, anyway?

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”304436″]How many times you been referred to as, Lil’ Phil, anyway?[/quote]

    counting, or excluding, my ex-wife?

    /NOW BACK TO UNIS, dammit ;)

  • troy ragsdale | December 9, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    Regarding the Phillips 66 ad “also note the bead-striped basket rim” I believe that is just tape holding up the net.

    Also – I read about the Reebok contest for the Winter Classic ™ and immediately said “screw that” I’m not wasting my time trying to spot a missing logo. I’ll watch the game, but I’m going to watch the game.

  • Terri | December 9, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”304433″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]
    Not to be a party pooper, but I just reported it.
    These things REALLY drive me nuts. I waited 19 years to vote for POTUS (including one powerless 2004 when I had to watch the Yankees ralph their season AND Bush-43 keep his job). This eBay listing is nothing but an ass-mockery of our American government.
    /Listen MBA buddy-old-pal, if you don’t have a service or product to sell, don’t waste our time thinking you can swipe a buck out of my pocket.
    //That goes double for “highest bidder dictates my vote.”
    ///Back to Uni Watching and talking, pronto.[/quote]

    Did you miss the big news story of the day? http://www.cnn.com/2...

  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”304376″]My all-time favorite mid-field adornment was when the K.C. Chiefs played at old Municipal Stadium and on the left 45 yard line was the opponents’ right side view helmet and on the right side 45 yard line was the Chiefs’ left side view helmet. Used this from c.1968 thru 1971.[/quote]

    These are my favorite:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • Ken | December 9, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”304413″][quote comment=”304401″]Hence, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Y’know, where they keep all the alien bodies?[/quote]
    Right — in Hangar 18. Everyone knows that.

    Of course, Wright-Patterson is in (or near) Dayton, not Columbus.[/quote]

    one minor correction the space ship is a Wright-Pat.. the alien bodies are at Groom Lake (AREA 51)

  • dm00n | December 9, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”304377″]Was the Phillips 66 semi-pro team really a team or just a big promotional stunt? The uni numbers, the supposed stopping of scoring at 66, the players actively defending players without the ball in the photos…all of it sounds fishy to me. I understand it could be both, but it seems like the actual playing of basketball was secondary. But, it was before my time.[/quote]

    They were considered amateur athletes, because they were given jobs with Phillips (part of the Life photo series shows them at their “day jobs”).

    It was common for Phillips players to represent the US in the Olympics, sometimes bringing home gold medals.

    They played some exhibition ball, and would play college teams, but they also played in the National Industrial Basketball League and in the AAU. They were a powerhouse in both leagues. This was around the time when teams were splitting off from leagues and forming different leagues and the NBA was basically just being born.

    Phillips had some college stars play for them, apparently drawn by the idea that they would get to play ball and end up in a career, rather than just playing ball and having to figure out what to do after basketball.

    Here is an article which mentions their work arrangement:

    “‘You had a regular job from 8 to 5 in Bartlesville, and practice started at 5:30,’ Bowerman said. ‘We played 70 or 80 games a year, with only about 15 home games, so you didn’t worry about your job while you were traveling.’

    Still, the job arrangement wasn’t some convenient way to pay players under the guise of amateurism. Several players became high-ranking executives with Phillips, while others worked their entire careers for the company either in the corporate office or with a distributorship.”

  • Jason Gomez | December 9, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    I dont know about you, but the player with the lost logo is the lucky one…now that would be a jersey I would want!

  • LarenR | December 9, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”304422″]Anyone know what the green logo, as seen in this video, on the NFL coach’s jackets mean? I’ve noticed it on almost all coachs winter jackets.
    http://www.nfl.com/v...
    It is the Reebok System Control logo.

  • Bob A | December 9, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    I feel like an idiot because I never realized that CCM and Reebok were now the same company. Back in the day we thought CCM gear (and Northland sticks) were the cat’s pajamas.

    I’m mailing back my Uni-card. ;-(

  • Frank James | December 9, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    Not sure if this has been posted.

    From the Boston Herald today:

    Purists, beware: Thursday, the Red Sox have plans to unveil “changes to the ballclub’s logos” and “select uniforms.” Manny Delcarmen, Jim Rice, Jerry Remy and other club officials will be on hand for the announcement/unveiling.

    It’s likely the team will reveal a new “alternate uniform,” to either replace or supplement the red tops the team often wears for Sunday home games.

    There’s no word yet on what the new logo will look like, or whether it will replace the existing one, which dates back decades.

  • mike 2 | December 9, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”304376″]My all-time favorite mid-field adornment was when the K.C. Chiefs played at old Municipal Stadium and on the left 45 yard line was the opponents’ right side view helmet and on the right side 45 yard line was the Chiefs’ left side view helmet. Used this from c.1968 thru 1971.[/quote]

    Not really uni-related, but when we’re talking about the Chiefs painting their field, only one thing comes to mind

    http://www.youtube.c...

    great googly moogly

  • Mark | December 9, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    Hadn’t seen this posted yet.

    Worst. Uniforms. EVER.

    http://www.nmnathlet...

    Nothing like mismatched purple

  • SteveABQ | December 9, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”304433″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]
    Not to be a party pooper, but I just reported it.
    These things REALLY drive me nuts. I waited 19 years to vote for POTUS (including one powerless 2004 when I had to watch the Yankees ralph their season AND Bush-43 keep his job). This eBay listing is nothing but an ass-mockery of our American government.
    /Listen MBA buddy-old-pal, if you don’t have a service or product to sell, don’t waste our time thinking you can swipe a buck out of my pocket.
    //That goes double for “highest bidder dictates my vote.”
    ///Back to Uni Watching and talking, pronto.[/quote]

    Sorry dude but your really not doing anything, the auction could have been allowed to go its course and even end with a high bidder, there was no legitimate item for sale — therefore ebay would have ruled it null and void. So although you may have thought you were acting as the ebay hall monitor you really just wasted your time. Nice job ace.

  • chance | December 9, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”304449″][quote comment=”304433″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]
    Not to be a party pooper, but I just reported it.
    These things REALLY drive me nuts. I waited 19 years to vote for POTUS (including one powerless 2004 when I had to watch the Yankees ralph their season AND Bush-43 keep his job). This eBay listing is nothing but an ass-mockery of our American government.
    /Listen MBA buddy-old-pal, if you don’t have a service or product to sell, don’t waste our time thinking you can swipe a buck out of my pocket.
    //That goes double for “highest bidder dictates my vote.”
    ///Back to Uni Watching and talking, pronto.[/quote]

    Sorry dude but your really not doing anything, the auction could have been allowed to go its course and even end with a high bidder, there was no legitimate item for sale — therefore ebay would have ruled it null and void. So although you may have thought you were acting as the ebay hall monitor you really just wasted your time. Nice job ace.[/quote]
    eBay doesn’t much care for joke auctions, and no doubt appreciates his reporting it.

  • SteveABQ | December 9, 2008 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”304450″][quote comment=”304449″][quote comment=”304433″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]
    Not to be a party pooper, but I just reported it.
    These things REALLY drive me nuts. I waited 19 years to vote for POTUS (including one powerless 2004 when I had to watch the Yankees ralph their season AND Bush-43 keep his job). This eBay listing is nothing but an ass-mockery of our American government.
    /Listen MBA buddy-old-pal, if you don’t have a service or product to sell, don’t waste our time thinking you can swipe a buck out of my pocket.
    //That goes double for “highest bidder dictates my vote.”
    ///Back to Uni Watching and talking, pronto.[/quote]

    Sorry dude but your really not doing anything, the auction could have been allowed to go its course and even end with a high bidder, there was no legitimate item for sale — therefore ebay would have ruled it null and void. So although you may have thought you were acting as the ebay hall monitor you really just wasted your time. Nice job ace.[/quote]
    eBay doesn’t much care for joke auctions, and no doubt appreciates his reporting it.[/quote]

    Ohhh of course I am aure in the annals of “joke bid reporting” Mike Engle will go down as an appreciated hero! Standing for Truth Justice and the Ebay way! Gimme a break its stupid to even find an idiotic auction like that offensive — its kids stuff. Lighten up.

  • SteveABQ | December 9, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    aure = sure

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote]Ohhh of course I am aure in the annals of “joke bid reporting” Mike Engle will go down as an appreciated hero! Standing for Truth Justice and the Ebay way! Gimme a break its stupid to even find an idiotic auction like that offensive — its kids stuff. Lighten up.[/quote]

    you made your point…this argument is now over

  • SteveABQ | December 9, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”304453″][quote]Ohhh of course I am aure in the annals of “joke bid reporting” Mike Engle will go down as an appreciated hero! Standing for Truth Justice and the Ebay way! Gimme a break its stupid to even find an idiotic auction like that offensive — its kids stuff. Lighten up.[/quote]

    you made your point…this argument is now over[/quote]

    Kinda like my Phillies Logo one too?

    Not trying to be mean but just pointing stuff out – no hard feelings I hope.

  • Kenny | December 9, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”304403″]this one is for you Paul. It’s from the Baltimore Sun, asking if the Ravens coaches should wear purple on the sidelines, because they wore lavender sunday night.

    http://www.baltimore...

    Those were lavender?!? Shit they looked silver on my TV…pretty puffy too :-)

  • Namhob | December 9, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”304337″][quote]It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags’[/quote]

    isn’t that new era’s business marketing plan anyway?[/quote]
    Hey, as long as I can buy my neon green version, it’s all good!

    /sarcasm

  • Dane | December 9, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”304422″]Anyone know what the green logo, as seen in this video, on the NFL coach’s jackets mean? I’ve noticed it on almost all coachs winter jackets.
    http://www.nfl.com/v...

    System Control. It’s the sub-brand Reebok is developing for their outerwear product lines.

    Of course, the ‘t’ in control is actually a + sign, which probably means something. Or not.

  • Jay | December 9, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”304430″][quote comment=”304379″]The Clippers new logo sucks, I loved the old one (I don’t even watch them, live any where near the team, can’t name who they are affiliated too etc, etc but that logo WAS awesome). I love it so much I went on their site and bought the hat (7 1/8 is my size and they had that size and some tiny 6 3/4 or something like that)

    About the NHL Winter Classic… well it’s a shitty thing from a shitty brand (does anyone buy reebooks anymore?). Like someone mentioned today or yesterday maybe it will get some eyes on the sport.[/quote]

    Why in the world would the Clippers change their logo/uniforms? They looked great before.[/quote]

    Agree 100%. I’ve always appreciated the classiness of the Clip’s jerseys as other minor league teams have gone the cartoony route with their logos, etc. I guess I should have seen this coming when they brought in a alternate logo for batting practice jerseys/hats.

  • Leo | December 9, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”304434″]I’m sure you caught Darko ripping his jersey in half during an NBA game (whilst being sent to the bench).

    A synopsis:
    He pulls apart the top of his jersey a la Superman and it rips about three-quarters of the way down the middle. He sits down, looking like he has been assaulted.

    You can see his benchmates struggling to contain their laughter.

    Amazingly, the equipment people had another jersey in waiting and Darko was good to go for another couple of minutes in the fourth to spell Marc Gasol…

    The jersey should be in Springfield, or on ebay at the very least.[/quote]

    Two things stand out.

    1) That is the most passion I’ve ever seen out of Darko.

    2) That is the first time that anything related to Darko has ever been said in the same sentence as a Hall of Fame.

  • Kevin M. | December 9, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”304450″][quote comment=”304449″][quote comment=”304433″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]
    Not to be a party pooper, but I just reported it.
    These things REALLY drive me nuts. I waited 19 years to vote for POTUS (including one powerless 2004 when I had to watch the Yankees ralph their season AND Bush-43 keep his job). This eBay listing is nothing but an ass-mockery of our American government.
    /Listen MBA buddy-old-pal, if you don’t have a service or product to sell, don’t waste our time thinking you can swipe a buck out of my pocket.
    //That goes double for “highest bidder dictates my vote.”
    ///Back to Uni Watching and talking, pronto.[/quote]

    Sorry dude but your really not doing anything, the auction could have been allowed to go its course and even end with a high bidder, there was no legitimate item for sale — therefore ebay would have ruled it null and void. So although you may have thought you were acting as the ebay hall monitor you really just wasted your time. Nice job ace.[/quote]
    eBay doesn’t much care for joke auctions, and no doubt appreciates his reporting it.[/quote]

    Damn I missed it what was the item for “sale”?

  • Beardface | December 9, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    FWIW, eBay removed the listing

  • Dane | December 9, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”304412″][quote comment=”304330″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. [/quote]

    The Steelers put the NFL Shield on the sideline. One endzone is simple white stripes, and the other end reads “Pittsburgh”. Is there an NCAA rule that makes them do this since they share Heinz Field with Pitt?[/quote]

    I don’t think it’s a rule – I think it just makes life easier, not having to repaint the Steelers or Panthers logos every weekend. Also the NFL and Steelers logos on the sidelines are not painted. They are big banners that they roll out for each game.

    I have also noticed the two sets of goalposts at Heinz field are different colors. The NFL/NCAA posts are yellow, while the wider high school posts are white.

  • Terri | December 9, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”304460″][quote comment=”304450″][quote comment=”304449″][quote comment=”304433″][quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]
    Not to be a party pooper, but I just reported it.
    These things REALLY drive me nuts. I waited 19 years to vote for POTUS (including one powerless 2004 when I had to watch the Yankees ralph their season AND Bush-43 keep his job). This eBay listing is nothing but an ass-mockery of our American government.
    /Listen MBA buddy-old-pal, if you don’t have a service or product to sell, don’t waste our time thinking you can swipe a buck out of my pocket.
    //That goes double for “highest bidder dictates my vote.”
    ///Back to Uni Watching and talking, pronto.[/quote]

    Sorry dude but your really not doing anything, the auction could have been allowed to go its course and even end with a high bidder, there was no legitimate item for sale — therefore ebay would have ruled it null and void. So although you may have thought you were acting as the ebay hall monitor you really just wasted your time. Nice job ace.[/quote]
    eBay doesn’t much care for joke auctions, and no doubt appreciates his reporting it.[/quote]

    Damn I missed it what was the item for “sale”?[/quote]

    Obama’s senate seat; the Illinois governor was arrested today for basically trying to do the same thing.

  • Peter | December 9, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”304456″][quote comment=”304337″][quote]It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags’[/quote]

    isn’t that new era’s business marketing plan anyway?[/quote]
    Hey, as long as I can buy my neon green version, it’s all good!

    /sarcasm[/quote]

    here you go!!
    http://www.lids.com/...

    (and remember to leave all the stickers on!!)

  • ScottyJ in WV | December 9, 2008 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”304464″][quote comment=”304456″][quote comment=”304337″][quote]It just screams ‘attempted marketing toward thugs and douchebags’[/quote]

    isn’t that new era’s business marketing plan anyway?[/quote]
    Hey, as long as I can buy my neon green version, it’s all good!

    /sarcasm[/quote]

    here you go!!
    http://www.lids.com/...

    (and remember to leave all the stickers on!!)[/quote]

    Ugh. How can New Era be so good and so bad at the same time?

    Love their hats. Have for a long time, but I swear they’ll make anything. Seriously, some of the designs and colors come straight out of a 6 year old’s imagination.

  • Jim BC | December 9, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”304427″]Sorry, totally off-topic, but how long do you suppose this eBay listing will last before it’s pulled?[/quote]
    It’s gone… what was it?

  • Robert in Dallas | December 9, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”304400″]OK random question. I have a coffee table book, “Baseball’s Book of Firsts.” Lots of fun uni shots but here was a puzzler. They had a photo of Cal Ripken driving around Camden Yards for game 2131 on top of a red Corvette. The Corvette’s license plate is from Michigan…..couldn’t they find a Maryland Corvette convertible? Im sure no one has an answer but if anyone might it would be these readers.[/quote]

    The Corvette in question might well be a manufacturer’s car supplied by Chevy for the occasion. If that is the case, it would bear a Michigan manufacturer’s plate.

    I cannot think of any other explanation for it.

  • Hurnf | December 9, 2008 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”304363″]I dig those Astros hats.[/quote]

    One of the few prototypes that actually was made by New Era in their Cooperstown Collection. About four years ago, they had white and GREEN versions of that cap!

  • Hurnf | December 9, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”304377″]Was the Phillips 66 semi-pro team really a team or just a big promotional stunt? The uni numbers, the supposed stopping of scoring at 66, the players actively defending players without the ball in the photos…all of it sounds fishy to me. I understand it could be both, but it seems like the actual playing of basketball was secondary. But, it was before my time.[/quote]

    You mean, like the Marathon Oil and/or Athletes In Action exhibition teams of the past?

  • Mark | December 9, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    New Red Sox Uniforms:

    http://img.photobuck...

    THE FUTURE IS NOW!
    :-)

  • Jim BC | December 9, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”304467″][quote comment=”304400″]OK random question. I have a coffee table book, “Baseball’s Book of Firsts.” Lots of fun uni shots but here was a puzzler. They had a photo of Cal Ripken driving around Camden Yards for game 2131 on top of a red Corvette. The Corvette’s license plate is from Michigan…..couldn’t they find a Maryland Corvette convertible? Im sure no one has an answer but if anyone might it would be these readers.[/quote]

    The Corvette in question might well be a manufacturer’s car supplied by Chevy for the occasion. If that is the case, it would bear a Michigan manufacturer’s plate.

    I cannot think of any other explanation for it.[/quote]
    Rental car perhaps?

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 2:50 pm |

    In case anyone’s interested in attending the Red Sox uniform unveiling, according to this highly reputable source you can send an e-mail to redsoxnation@redsox.com for a chance at an invitation.

  • Lwiedy | December 9, 2008 at 3:12 pm |

    Looks like Heilmann won’t be closing next year.

  • Mike | December 9, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    The seat is back up! With a high bid, at that. As a fervent Obama supporter, I say lock Blagojevich for a long time.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Ben | December 9, 2008 at 3:15 pm |

    I posted a couple of these before, but never really got any response to them.
    I found this picture in a box of pictures from my dads uncle’s house. Does anyone know who it is?
    http://inlinethumb06...
    Here is a couple of cool photos from my old high schools football website.
    http://newbritainhur...
    http://newbritainhur...
    This is where the New York Giants played their first game ever
    http://newbritainhur...
    TNOB
    http://newbritainhur...
    And one for paul
    http://inlinethumb32...

  • Mike Engle | December 9, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”304454″][quote comment=”304453″][quote]Ohhh of course I am aure in the annals of “joke bid reporting” Mike Engle will go down as an appreciated hero! Standing for Truth Justice and the Ebay way! Gimme a break its stupid to even find an idiotic auction like that offensive — its kids stuff. Lighten up.[/quote]

    you made your point…this argument is now over[/quote]

    Kinda like my Phillies Logo one too?

    Not trying to be mean but just pointing stuff out – no hard feelings I hope.[/quote]
    Extremely hard feelings. I don’t need to be an “appreciated hero,” and I sure as hell don’t need your f*cking seal of approval.
    What am I supposed to do? Laugh along with a joke I don’t find funny, see it become a minor CNN story, and think to myself, “I could have stopped that clown from getting fifteen minutes of fame, but I didn’t?”
    Generally, when I find myself in a position to do the right thing, that’s what I do.
    Hope I don’t have to hear from you in a while…but if you must run your mouth, I’ll gladly watch you self-destruct.

  • jon | December 9, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”304406″][quote]this whole reebok contest is getting overblown. i actually find it to be incredibly clever. maybe its overstepping the bounds a bit, but its going to be fun and its during a game that is meant to be fun, so what’s the big deal?[/quote]

    so the premise of “don’t watch the game, for the actual game’s sake (despite the fact that last year’s game was a smashing success, played outdoors in a football stadium with outstanding throwbacks, and this year’s game promises even more)…because that is surely not enough to entertain you…watch the game so you can focus on our missing logo (and maybe win a prize {canucks need not apply})” is ok with you then?

    do you really need a contest in order to get you to watch what will be the most awesome hockey spectacle this year (pre-playoffs anyway)?

    the mere fact that we’ve now spent two days debating this is proof rbk has already won

    and it’s disgusting[/quote]

    thats not really what i meant. im going to watch it for the hockey. im going to watch it because outdoor hockey is one of the most fun things i have ever participated in. im going to watch it because i love the sport and want to see two quality teams play in kick-ass uniforms at one of the most famous ballparks in history.
    but think about it. what if, as someone is scrolling through the channels new years day and going past numerous bowl games, they hear about this promotion and decide to watch. maybe they really enjoy the game and begin to tune in more often. imagine this happens 3-4000 times over. all of a sudden the nhl starts to get a little more of a fanbase.
    i know its ridiculous to suggest that that would happen, and im totally aware that that is certainly not reebok’s main goal in the promotion. im just saying that a promotion during a hockey game isnt the evil demon seed it seems to have been made out to be earlier. thats all i was saying.

  • Mike | December 9, 2008 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=\”304476\”][quote comment=\”304454\”][quote comment=\”304453\”][quote]Ohhh of course I am aure in the annals of “joke bid reporting” Mike Engle will go down as an appreciated hero! Standing for Truth Justice and the Ebay way! Gimme a break its stupid to even find an idiotic auction like that offensive — its kids stuff. Lighten up.[/quote]

    you made your point…this argument is now over[/quote]

    Kinda like my Phillies Logo one too?

    Not trying to be mean but just pointing stuff out – no hard feelings I hope.[/quote]
    Extremely hard feelings. I don\’t need to be an \”appreciated hero,\” and I sure as hell don\’t need your f*cking seal of approval.
    What am I supposed to do? Laugh along with a joke I don\’t find funny, see it become a minor CNN story, and think to myself, \”I could have stopped that clown from getting fifteen minutes of fame, but I didn\’t?\”
    Generally, when I find myself in a position to do the right thing, that\’s what I do.
    Hope I don\’t have to hear from you in a while…but if you must run your mouth, I\’ll gladly watch you self-destruct.[/quote]
    Really, I don\’t see why a harmless joke like that is so bad. I live in Alaska…which is the pinnacle of corruption in the US…and am glad to see all crooks get caught, on either side of the aisle. Ted Stevens and Rod Blagojevich come from the same tree, and to playfully mock them is totally legit, and funny.

    Go Obama and Mark Begich!

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”304475″]I posted a couple of these before, but never really got any response to them.
    I found this picture in a box of pictures from my dads uncle’s house. Does anyone know who it is?
    http://inlinethumb06...
    Here is a couple of cool photos from my old high schools football website.
    http://newbritainhur...
    http://newbritainhur...
    This is where the New York Giants played their first game ever
    http://newbritainhur...
    TNOB
    http://newbritainhur...
    And one for paul
    http://inlinethumb32...
    I don’t know if it’s just something goofy with the firewall here, but when I click your first and last links, the pictures don’t load. Maybe that’s why nobody responded to you

  • Joe D | December 9, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    Has anybody noticed the Rays have a new alternate jersey for 09? Nothing to write home about but I’m surprised I haven’t heard anything yet.

    Any word on other teams new minor tweaks to uniforms other than the Red Sox on Thursday?

  • u2-horn | December 9, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    yeah, those webshots links are not working

  • skott daltonic | December 9, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    i’m totally stoked on the new sox stuff. i love the double sock logo…just wish the brim was red, maybe.

    would love a blue home jersey…kind of sick of all the red – makes them look like the angels.

    or at least maybe going back to wearing stirrups??

  • Matthew Lindley | December 9, 2008 at 4:20 pm |

    A question for my fellow soccer fans out there. I am watching Liverpool v PSV Eindhoven and Liverpool are playing without a shirt sponsor on front. The ever familiar Carlsburg Logo is nowhere. Any ideas why?

  • seven | December 9, 2008 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”304483″]A question for my fellow soccer fans out there. I am watching Liverpool v PSV Eindhoven and Liverpool are playing without a shirt sponsor on front. The ever familiar Carlsburg Logo is nowhere. Any ideas why?[/quote]

    I would guess because of Dutch laws against alcohol advertising.

  • cam | December 9, 2008 at 4:30 pm |

    The down markers have had the tape over the name for a couple years now, at least in the NFL – I will try to find pictures, I’m just not sure where to go to find them.

  • cam | December 9, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”304485″]The down markers have had the tape over the name for a couple years now, at least in the NFL – I will try to find pictures, I’m just not sure where to go to find them.[/quote]

    Just found a photo from 2005 where the tape is over the brand name of the down box. I noticed it way back because I used to work as a referee and would watch the officiating crews on the sidelines.

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”304482″]i’m totally stoked on the new sox stuff. i love the double sock logo…just wish the brim was red, maybe.

    would love a blue home jersey…kind of sick of all the red – makes them look like the angels.

    or at least maybe going back to wearing stirrups??[/quote]

    i wouldn’t get my hopes up on the stirrups

  • TMcLaughlin | December 9, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”304470″]New Red Sox Uniforms:

    http://img.photobuck...

    THE FUTURE IS NOW!
    :-)[/quote]
    That photo must never see daylight again!
    As far as these are concerned, this looks like the inspiration.

  • Ben | December 9, 2008 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment=\”304479\”][quote comment=\”304475\”]I posted a couple of these before, but never really got any response to them.
    I found this picture in a box of pictures from my dads uncle\’s house. Does anyone know who it is?
    http://inlinethumb06...
    Here is a couple of cool photos from my old high schools football website.
    http://newbritainhur...
    http://newbritainhur...
    This is where the New York Giants played their first game ever
    http://newbritainhur...
    TNOB
    http://newbritainhur...
    And one for paul
    http://inlinethumb32...
    I don\’t know if it\’s just something goofy with the firewall here, but when I click your first and last links, the pictures don\’t load. Maybe that\’s why nobody responded to you[/quote]

    I tried a new hosting site, so lets hope it works.
    Anyone know who this is?
    http://i113.photobuc...

    A picture for Paul
    http://i113.photobuc...

    If not, try this, it will be the first 2 pictures
    http://s113.photobuc...

  • D. Thorpe | December 9, 2008 at 5:42 pm |

    Commenting on BYOB
    – It must be a volleyball thing. I am a HS coach and many of our teams have their school name on back. This is also very popular on college volleyball uniforms.
    http://cache.daylife...

  • joe | December 9, 2008 at 5:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”304385″]The ticker item on the Columbus Clippers prompted me to research their name. Columbus is in the middle of Ohio. Why call them the Clippers? It’s kinda like Arizona Bobsleds.

    Anyways … I went to their site and they’ve had some interesting unis. Check out the striped collar and stovetop hat on Steve Balboni …

    http://clippersbaseb...

    BTW. Still no word on why they’re the Clippers.[/quote]

    well why are the chicago bears names the bears, there are no bears there, same for the bulls, there are no wild bulls running around chicago. There are no lions or tigers in detroit either (that counts the football team). Crazy idea, maybe the columbus owners thought it sounded good.

  • SWW | December 9, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

    Re: Jeff Gordon

    Rick Hendrick also had a HMS lapel pin on. Oddly enough, champion Jimmie Johnson and champion crew chief Chad Knaus were not similarly adorned. Could be something to do with ownership stakes in the company (Jeff Gordon has a 50% ownership stake in, and on results is listed owner, of Johnson’s 48 car)?

  • Mike Engle | December 9, 2008 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”304492″][quote comment=”304385″]The ticker item on the Columbus Clippers prompted me to research their name. Columbus is in the middle of Ohio. Why call them the Clippers? It’s kinda like Arizona Bobsleds.

    Anyways … I went to their site and they’ve had some interesting unis. Check out the striped collar and stovetop hat on Steve Balboni …

    http://clippersbaseb...

    BTW. Still no word on why they’re the Clippers.[/quote]

    well why are the chicago bears names the bears, there are no bears there, same for the bulls, there are no wild bulls running around chicago. There are no lions or tigers in detroit either (that counts the football team). Crazy idea, maybe the columbus owners thought it sounded good.[/quote]
    I like the idea that Columbus, formerly the long-time AAA club of the Yankees, are named after The Yankee Clipper, Joe D. But if they started as the Pirates’ team, it probably doesn’t make sense. (And yes, I am a Yankees fan, so it’s possible I like that name theory a little too much.)

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 5:59 pm |

    [quote]thats not really what i meant. im going to watch it for the hockey. im going to watch it because outdoor hockey is one of the most fun things i have ever participated in. im going to watch it because i love the sport and want to see two quality teams play in kick-ass uniforms at one of the most famous ballparks in history.
    but think about it. what if, as someone is scrolling through the channels new years day and going past numerous bowl games, they hear about this promotion and decide to watch. maybe they really enjoy the game and begin to tune in more often. imagine this happens 3-4000 times over. all of a sudden the nhl starts to get a little more of a fanbase.
    i know its ridiculous to suggest that that would happen, and im totally aware that that is certainly not reebok’s main goal in the promotion. im just saying that a promotion during a hockey game isnt the evil demon seed it seems to have been made out to be earlier. thats all i was saying.[/quote]

    fair points all

    i grew up without cable, and my only exposure to hockey was the islanders and rangers, maybe once or twice a month, on WOR channel 9 in new york (always away games — one reason why i’ve never been all that keen on the ‘return to the dark sweaters’…my home team was always in white, and i NEVER got to see those games unless i WENT to those games)

    but there were no gimmicks needed to get me into the game…i’ll tell you what DID get me into puck, and one thing i’ve always hated the NHL and the europeans for … fights … or more specifically, lack of them now…and everyone has helmets

    yeah…call me a caveman, but there was always something great about watching the isles against the broadstreet bullies, or anyone against tiger williams…more like slap shot, less like the mighty ducks

    but this reebok thing has really got me pissed off…they DON’T need a gimmick for this game…other than that its (1) OUTDOORS, (2)IN WRIGLEY, with (3) two of the original six, (4) in throwback sweaters

    now, if that doesn’t appeal to the casual hockey fan, i don’t know what will…the purist is already all over this game

    if the NHL’s goal is to increase viewership, this game ALONE should be able to do it…the ‘potential new fan’ doesn’t need to spend his new year’s day afternoon juggling back and forth between bowl blowouts and leftover party snax to search for a fucking missing rbk logo…how’s that going to increase one’s thirst for hockey?

    we debated last new years day whether or not it was even good for hockey to have the pens and slugs wear their throwbacks, because “the first time watcher will want to buy (or see) those sweaters again and they can’t even do that”…as much as we here would love for the uniforms to be the reason we watch a game (or attend the U of Zero), and make no mistake, marketing is a huge part of it, the first time watcher (which is im guessing the NHL’s true target) isn’t going to watch or not watch a hockey game a second time solely because of the unis

    so, after all that babbling (sorry)…i just feel that this whole rbk gimmick is bullshit, unnecessary and an utter waste of our time…you want me to watch hockey? put it on a real network (like NBC), maybe in prime time (i think canada may do that), and let them fight!

    but please don’t ask me to find waldo the missing rbk logo

  • Lwiedy | December 9, 2008 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”304495″][quote]thats not really what i meant. im going to watch it for the hockey. im going to watch it because outdoor hockey is one of the most fun things i have ever participated in. im going to watch it because i love the sport and want to see two quality teams play in kick-ass uniforms at one of the most famous ballparks in history.
    but think about it. what if, as someone is scrolling through the channels new years day and going past numerous bowl games, they hear about this promotion and decide to watch. maybe they really enjoy the game and begin to tune in more often. imagine this happens 3-4000 times over. all of a sudden the nhl starts to get a little more of a fanbase.
    i know its ridiculous to suggest that that would happen, and im totally aware that that is certainly not reebok’s main goal in the promotion. im just saying that a promotion during a hockey game isnt the evil demon seed it seems to have been made out to be earlier. thats all i was saying.[/quote]

    fair points all

    i grew up without cable, and my only exposure to hockey was the islanders and rangers, maybe once or twice a month, on WOR channel 9 in new york (always away games — one reason why i’ve never been all that keen on the ‘return to the dark sweaters’…my home team was always in white, and i NEVER got to see those games unless i WENT to those games)

    but there were no gimmicks needed to get me into the game…i’ll tell you what DID get me into puck, and one thing i’ve always hated the NHL and the europeans for … fights … or more specifically, lack of them now…and everyone has helmets

    yeah…call me a caveman, but there was always something great about watching the isles against the broadstreet bullies, or anyone against tiger williams…more like slap shot, less like the mighty ducks
    [/quote]

    Wow, you’re telling my childhood story as well, and because I was in “The WC” I got to far fewer games than you did. Only thing I’d change from your account is to mention this as the “never seen” legendary moment for Isles fans.

  • Beau | December 9, 2008 at 6:38 pm |

    maybe the NFL has just been getting down markers made from a different company? is there anyone who can look into this?

  • scott | December 9, 2008 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”304458″][quote comment=”304430″][quote comment=”304379″]The Clippers new logo sucks, I loved the old one (I don’t even watch them, live any where near the team, can’t name who they are affiliated too etc, etc but that logo WAS awesome). I love it so much I went on their site and bought the hat (7 1/8 is my size and they had that size and some tiny 6 3/4 or something like that)

    About the NHL Winter Classic… well it’s a shitty thing from a shitty brand (does anyone buy reebooks anymore?). Like someone mentioned today or yesterday maybe it will get some eyes on the sport.[/quote]

    Why in the world would the Clippers change their logo/uniforms? They looked great before.[/quote]

    Agree 100%. I’ve always appreciated the classiness of the Clip’s jerseys as other minor league teams have gone the cartoony route with their logos, etc. I guess I should have seen this coming when they brought in a alternate logo for batting practice jerseys/hats.[/quote]

    I still don’t understand the hostility to the change. But then again, people in 1996 were probably pissed off when the Clippers modified their hats and created a much busier ship within the C.

  • Lwiedy | December 9, 2008 at 6:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”304405″][quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. [/quote]

    I don’t seem to see an NFL shield on the field at Texas Stadium…

    http://www.stadiumso...

    None here either (although it is a 2006 photo) http://upload.wikime...

  • Zach | December 9, 2008 at 6:52 pm |

    On ABC’s World News with Charles Gibson, they were talking about layoffs in the economy and sports world. When talking about the NFL’s layoffs, the used the old logo. Happened about two minutes ago (6:49-6:50 ET), but unfortunately I don’t have any screen grabs.

  • Lwiedy | December 9, 2008 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”304502″][quote comment=”304405″][quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. [/quote]

    I don’t seem to see an NFL shield on the field at Texas Stadium…

    http://www.stadiumso...

    None here either (although it is a 2006 photo) http://upload.wikime...

    Well, don’t I feel stupid, WHERE’S THE DELETE POST BUTTON??? Checked to see if the picture linked and BAM!!!

  • Brian | December 9, 2008 at 6:58 pm |

    -The whole Reebok promotion is, in my opinion, pointless and stupid. However, I’m not upset about it either, I just don’t care about it.

    -In response to a comment made earlier about “Who buys Reebok anymore?” Between Patriots gear, and NHL stuff I buy plenty of Reebok stuff, and I think they’re, by far, the best of the major sports companies/brands. Crap all over Nike quality-wise IMO.

    -Putting my massive hatred for the Red Sox aside, I actually think that cap could work as an alternate. It holds Red Sox colors and tradition, while being actually ALTERNATE to their normal Unis, as opposed to their normal logo of a different color cap. Still need to see what the jerseys look like before I make a statement.

  • Mark K | December 9, 2008 at 6:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”304458″]
    Agree 100%. I’ve always appreciated the classiness of the Clip’s jerseys as other minor league teams have gone the cartoony route with their logos, etc.[/quote]

    Sheesh- I was just skimming the comments today and thought for sure you guys were talking about Los Angeles.

  • Lwiedy | December 9, 2008 at 7:03 pm |

    Yahoo Sports is infringing UW territory
    http://sports.yahoo....

  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 8:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”304492″]

    well why are the chicago bears names the bears, there are no bears there, same for the bulls, there are no wild bulls running around chicago.[/quote]
    Well, there’s actually good reasons for those.

    As was often the case in the early days of the NFL, the team would use the same name as the baseball team whose stadium it shared (New York Giants, Brooklyn Dodgers, etc.) so the Chicago Staleys (who shared Wrigley Field with the Cubs) were set to take the name Cubs but George Halas felt that the name was not fitting for a football team, so he took the logical step of going with Bears instead.

    As for the Bulls, that came from Chicago’s once-prevalent stockyards. So, yes, there were once plenty of actual Bulls in Chicago (OK, steer, actually). Plus, it’s the perfect complement for Bears.

    I could go on to discuss the other major sports teams in town if you want…

  • SWW | December 9, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”304502″][quote comment=”304405″][quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. [/quote]

    I don’t seem to see an NFL shield on the field at Texas Stadium…

    http://www.stadiumso...

    None here either (although it is a 2006 photo) http://upload.wikime...

    Check the 25 yard lines on FedEx Field, there are the NFL logos.

  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 8:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”304510″][quote comment=”304492″]

    well why are the chicago bears names the bears, there are no bears there, same for the bulls, there are no wild bulls running around chicago.[/quote]
    Well, there’s actually good reasons for those.

    As was often the case in the early days of the NFL, the team would use the same name as the baseball team whose stadium it shared (New York Giants, Brooklyn Dodgers, etc.) so the Chicago Staleys (who shared Wrigley Field with the Cubs) were set to take the name Cubs but George Halas felt that the name was not fitting for a football team, so he took the logical step of going with Bears instead.

    As for the Bulls, that came from Chicago’s once-prevalent stockyards. So, yes, there were once plenty of actual Bulls in Chicago (OK, steer, actually). Plus, it’s the perfect complement for Bears.

    I could go on to discuss the other major sports teams in town if you want…[/quote]

    There aren’t any others!

    As if Teebz wasn’t riled up enough already.

    Here’s some uni pics that should lighten the mood:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 8:30 pm |
  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 8:31 pm |

    I meant this uni-related pic:

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • Lwiedy | December 9, 2008 at 8:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”304512″][quote comment=”304502″][quote comment=”304405″][quote comment=”304330″][quote comment=”304328″]What’s the rule or protocol for what is painted on the 50 yard line of a football field. Most teams use their logo, but last night I noticed Carolina used the NFL logo. Can anyone shed some light on this?[/quote]
    As long as the NFL logo is displayed somewhere, its all good. [/quote]

    I don’t seem to see an NFL shield on the field at Texas Stadium…

    http://www.stadiumso...

    None here either (although it is a 2006 photo) http://upload.wikime...

    Check the 25 yard lines on FedEx Field, there are the NFL logos.[/quote]

    Check post 175

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 9:35 pm |
  • JTH | December 9, 2008 at 10:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”304517″]ban?[/quote]
    A pic posted to lighten the mood has angered Coach to the point of whipping out the ban stick?

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 10:33 pm |

    lol…no, JTH…

    that could be the official “poster shot” for future banned posters…make an ass of yourself, say racist or otherwise inflammatory things…attack other posters…and BAM…you’re in the ban bucket

  • mdunner28 | December 9, 2008 at 10:38 pm |

    Is that at the Magic Kingdom?

  • Zach | December 9, 2008 at 10:44 pm |

    In this outside the lines clip Plaxico, the one and only, is wearing a yankees hat with the VT logo on it. about 3 minutes in.

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 11:13 pm |

    And Peter turned to The Lord and said,
    “Jesus, look at the red shoes on that beggar.”

    http://i256.photobuc...

    (Sorry, couldn’t resist).

  • LI Phil | December 9, 2008 at 11:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”304524″]And Peter turned to The Lord and said,
    “Jesus, look at the red shoes on that beggar.”

    http://i256.photobuc...

    (Sorry, couldn’t resist).[/quote]

    why’s the dude to the right of powers checking out his ass?

  • Ricko | December 9, 2008 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”304525″][quote comment=”304524″]And Peter turned to The Lord and said,
    “Jesus, look at the red shoes on that beggar.”

    http://i256.photobuc...

    (Sorry, couldn’t resist).[/quote]

    why’s the dude to the right of powers checking out his ass?[/quote]

    Probably Doubting Thomas. He does look sort of…skeptical.

  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 11:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”304522″]Is that at the Magic Kingdom?[/quote]

    Epcot

  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 11:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”304525″][quote comment=”304524″]And Peter turned to The Lord and said,
    “Jesus, look at the red shoes on that beggar.”

    http://i256.photobuc...

    (Sorry, couldn’t resist).[/quote]

    why’s the dude to the right of powers checking out his ass?[/quote]

    That is HYSTERICAL! I never noticed that. He was the ringer in the Indiana Jones show.

    And Ricko, he was dounbting Thomas, because noone would believe that I had Adidas on my feet the entire trip.

  • Bob from Akron | December 9, 2008 at 11:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”304376″]My all-time favorite mid-field adornment was when the K.C. Chiefs played at old Municipal Stadium and on the left 45 yard line was the opponents’ right side view helmet and on the right side 45 yard line was the Chiefs’ left side view helmet. Used this from c.1968 thru 1971.[/quote]

    That same adornment (Vikings – Chiefs) was used on the Tulane Stadium turf at Super Bowl IV in New Orleans.

    My all-time favorite basketball adornment was the “VALLEY OF THE SUN” banner in front of the scorer’s table at the former home of the Phoenix Suns, Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum.

  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”304523″]In this outside the lines clip Plaxico, the one and only, is wearing a yankees hat with the VT logo on it. about 3 minutes in.[/quote]

    That’s the Spring Training 5950 that the Yanks wore at VaTech this year.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Methinks he has a mancrush on Mike Vick. As I said last week, after he was sent up the river and Nike ripped all of the Zoom Vick 5’s off of the shelves, he was the lone player to remain wearing those cleats in the NFL.

  • mdunner28 | December 9, 2008 at 11:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”304527″][quote comment=”304522″]Is that at the Magic Kingdom?[/quote]

    Epcot[/quote]

    Ah, yes. I thought it looked familiar.

  • Eric B in KC | December 9, 2008 at 11:55 pm |

    more helmet decal fun. this is from the Division 2 playoff game on saturday. THE Northwest Missouri State University will be playing for the D2 national championship on saturday.

    http://s13.photobuck...

  • MPowers1634 | December 9, 2008 at 11:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”304531″][quote comment=”304527″][quote comment=”304522″]Is that at the Magic Kingdom?[/quote]

    Epcot[/quote]

    Ah, yes. I thought it looked familiar.[/quote]

    Considering the way that I usually behave in Epcot, the stockade is the best place that I could end up.

  • Beardface | December 10, 2008 at 12:30 am |

    [quote comment=”304530″][quote comment=”304523″]In this outside the lines clip Plaxico, the one and only, is wearing a yankees hat with the VT logo on it. about 3 minutes in.[/quote]

    That’s the Spring Training 5950 that the Yanks wore at VaTech this year.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Methinks he has a mancrush on Mike Vick. As I said last week, after he was sent up the river and Nike ripped all of the Zoom Vick 5’s off of the shelves, he was the lone player to remain wearing those cleats in the NFL.[/quote]
    Plax grew up a big VT fan and would have gone to Tech had we offered him a scholarship, but we didn’t have the room for him.

    He’s from the same area of Virginia as the Vick brothers and Allen Iverson. Its no surprise he’s a VT fan, even with his Michigan State education.

  • b. cheng | December 10, 2008 at 1:42 am |

    I’m shcoked!!! 200 comments and yet nobody has pointed out that NEITHER OF THE WINTER CLASSIC SWEATERS ARE THROWBACKS! BBoth are retro inspired, but both team have never worn them before and to me, both are far worse than the original 6 old school designs that they are inspired by. You want to complain about marketing, why aren’t you complaining about this? It’s a total excuse to sell a new jersey, instead of the old school version which people already have

  • Jeff P | December 10, 2008 at 3:26 am |

    [quote comment=”304535″]I’m shcoked!!! 200 comments and yet nobody has pointed out that NEITHER OF THE WINTER CLASSIC SWEATERS ARE THROWBACKS! BBoth are retro inspired, but both team have never worn them before and to me, both are far worse than the original 6 old school designs that they are inspired by. You want to complain about marketing, why aren’t you complaining about this? It’s a total excuse to sell a new jersey, instead of the old school version which people already have[/quote]

    Wait, what? There are a few minor differences- Wings added their logo as a shoulder patch and the Blackhawks changed the shade of tan a little, but They’re accurate otherwise except for the modern material.

    And nobody owns those jerseys. Both were used way back before merchandise sales and this is the first time they’ve been seen since. But both teams wore those uniforms in the past.

  • Rob | December 10, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    The Clippers are overhauling their looks to go along with a move to a new (long overdue) stadium this spring. They’re also the Indians’ new AAA outpost and the old Clips unis still had a distinct Yankee flavor even after a few seasons as the Nationals’ affiliate.

    I hate the Cavs-style “C” and I wish they’d used the script C from the Tribe’s road jersey instead.

  • B. Stallings | December 10, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    Hey Paul

    Go ahead and watch the Doritos or All-State or whatever lame sponsored bowl game is on New Year’s day . . . Oh, I forgot, the big(?) one’s televised a week later. Oh, that’s right — it’s for a MYTHICAL CHAMPIONSHIP since the NCAA doesn’t believe in a playoff system due to all the $$$$$$ these schools receive from all these hugely-sponsored, TV-rated games.

    Hypocrite!

  • Blake | December 10, 2008 at 8:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”304495″][quote]thats not really what i meant. im going to watch it for the hockey. im going to watch it because outdoor hockey is one of the most fun things i have ever participated in. im going to watch it because i love the sport and want to see two quality teams play in kick-ass uniforms at one of the most famous ballparks in history.
    but think about it. what if, as someone is scrolling through the channels new years day and going past numerous bowl games, they hear about this promotion and decide to watch. maybe they really enjoy the game and begin to tune in more often. imagine this happens 3-4000 times over. all of a sudden the nhl starts to get a little more of a fanbase.
    i know its ridiculous to suggest that that would happen, and im totally aware that that is certainly not reebok’s main goal in the promotion. im just saying that a promotion during a hockey game isnt the evil demon seed it seems to have been made out to be earlier. thats all i was saying.[/quote]

    fair points all

    i grew up without cable, and my only exposure to hockey was the islanders and rangers, maybe once or twice a month, on WOR channel 9 in new york (always away games — one reason why i’ve never been all that keen on the ‘return to the dark sweaters’…my home team was always in white, and i NEVER got to see those games unless i WENT to those games)

    but there were no gimmicks needed to get me into the game…i’ll tell you what DID get me into puck, and one thing i’ve always hated the NHL and the europeans for … fights … or more specifically, lack of them now…and everyone has helmets

    yeah…call me a caveman, but there was always something great about watching the isles against the broadstreet bullies, or anyone against tiger williams…more like slap shot, less like the mighty ducks

    but this reebok thing has really got me pissed off…they DON’T need a gimmick for this game…other than that its (1) OUTDOORS, (2)IN WRIGLEY, with (3) two of the original six, (4) in throwback sweaters

    now, if that doesn’t appeal to the casual hockey fan, i don’t know what will…the purist is already all over this game

    if the NHL’s goal is to increase viewership, this game ALONE should be able to do it…the ‘potential new fan’ doesn’t need to spend his new year’s day afternoon juggling back and forth between bowl blowouts and leftover party snax to search for a fucking missing rbk logo…how’s that going to increase one’s thirst for hockey?

    we debated last new years day whether or not it was even good for hockey to have the pens and slugs wear their throwbacks, because “the first time watcher will want to buy (or see) those sweaters again and they can’t even do that”…as much as we here would love for the uniforms to be the reason we watch a game (or attend the U of Zero), and make no mistake, marketing is a huge part of it, the first time watcher (which is im guessing the NHL’s true target) isn’t going to watch or not watch a hockey game a second time solely because of the unis

    so, after all that babbling (sorry)…i just feel that this whole rbk gimmick is bullshit, unnecessary and an utter waste of our time…you want me to watch hockey? put it on a real network (like NBC), maybe in prime time (i think canada may do that), and let them fight!

    but please don’t ask me to find waldo the missing rbk logo[/quote]
    Well I think the point is not to draw in any more fans because as you said the game in and of itself is enough to draw most every hockey fan whether they are die-hard or casual, rather the point is to associate reebok with the beautiful product (throwback jerseys) you are seeing on the ice. Now as many have said, most canadians are already quite aware of reebok’s monopoly on hockey but seeing as this game is going to be the only nationally broadcast game in the US, where you finally have all american eyes on you at a single moment, you’ll have an entire resource which the NHL claims in under-tapped to manipulate. And you know what? It is going to work. I hate capitalism as a rule and corporatations deperately trying to steal your money but I’ve come to accept that this is the society we live in. The trick is to simply ignore the advertisments. I’ve gotten pretty good at it myself (thanks in part to not owning a television) but I’ll never be perfect because we’re in a zoo and the corporatations have branded the bars.

  • Drew | December 11, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”304533″][quote comment=”304531″][quote comment=”304527″][quote comment=”304522″]Is that at the Magic Kingdom?[/quote]

    Epcot[/quote]

    Ah, yes. I thought it looked familiar.[/quote]

    Considering the way that I usually behave in Epcot, the stockade is the best place that I could end up.[/quote]

    it’s actually at the Disney’s Hollywood Studios at the Indiana Jones skit