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History’s Most Memorialized Figure Gets Yet Another Shout-Out

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Remember Matt Stover’s Gene Upshaw memorial sleeve band/patch thingie? It was pointed out in yesterday morning’s comments that Brian Dawkins was wearing an Upshaw armband (or maybe just a sleeve patch on a black undershirt) this past Sunday, as you can see above. Much later in the day, someone said Dawkins (who, like Stover, is a union rep) had been wearing the arm-borne memorial all season. And sure enough, he has, as seen in these pics from September 21st and 28th, October 5th, 12th, and 26th, and November 2nd. How is it possible that none of us pointed this out until now? We’re all slipping, people.

New ESPN column today — here’s the link. Meanwhile, here’s your Ticker, which for a change doesn’t even include the word “douchebag.”

Uni Watch News Ticker: The Trail Blazers will retire the No. 30 twice in December, honoring Terry Porter and Bobby Gross. This is apparently only the third time an NBA team has retired a number on behalf of two players: The Knicks retired No. 15 in honor of Dick McGuire and Earl Monroe, and the Celtics retired No. 18, worn by Dave Cowens and Jim Loscutoff (with thanks to Dane Drutis). … Bob Wilzbach reports that the Dayton Bombers wore Troy Bruins throwbacks on Friday (note the very small “A” designation). “The Troy Bruins were an IHL team that played at Hobart Arena, where the Bombers now play, from 1951-1959.” He also notes that the Johnstown Chiefs now have ads on their chests (not unusual for minor league hockey) and their rear shirttails — ugh. … Yesterday I mentioned that the Padres had made uniforms for their proposed 1974 move to DC and asked if anyone knew what those uniforms looked like. Todd Radom to the rescue! … Best Onion cover ever (thanks, Phil). … Lots of helmet oddities in this photo of a Pinewood Prep (S.C.) player. Michael Orr says he doesn’t know why the helmet number doesn’t match the jersey number, or what the “POP” or “LM” decals are for, but he says this guy, from the same team, was clearly wearing his mismatched socks and leg bands on purpose. … Like the looks of this? Bid on it here. … Additional very nice letterman jackets here, here, here (that’s a women’s jacket), and here (ditto), plus some really nice varsity sweaters here, here, here, and here. And here’s the kicker: Check out the amazing little metal pins here. … The New York Times is shuttering its quarterly sports mag, Play, which reminds me of the following tale: When the Vikings were slated to be designing what is now their uniform — this was at least a year before the uni was actually unveiled — I approached the Play folks with the idea of a behind-the-scenes feature in which I’d follow the design process each step of the way (obviously, I’d have needed access to be granted by the team, league, and Reebok) and show how a new NFL uniform design comes to fruition. An editor — I don’t recall which one, alas — wrote back to me with the following: “That sounds great — assuming anyone actually cares how a uniform is designed.” He passed on the story. … We’ve all seen plenty of old baseball jerseys with a sun collar or cadet collar, but it’s rare that you see a piping-clad sun collar. Details here. … I’m so biased and mean toward poor, innocent little Nike that I’m going to link to this mean, biased article about Nike soccer cleats that smell like cat pee after they get wet (really!), even though I wouldn’t have known anything about it if Craig Ackers hadn’t sent the article my way, so I guess he’s a Nike-basher too, whee! … Dave Gardner notes that the Canadiens’ 1947-48 throwbacks don’t have the scoop hemline. … Great interview here with the guy who signals for the TV timeouts at Browns home games (thanks, Vince). … During last season’s Winter Classic, the Pens wore navy helmets with navy straps. But now that they’ve unveiled essentially that same jersey as an alternate, they’re pairing it with navy helmets with white straps. … Speaking of the Pens’ alts, here’s a schedule of when they’ll be worn (with thanks to Doug Keklak). … Morris Levin sent along his favorite shot from the Phils’ victory parade. … The Rangers had a kid from the Garden of Dreams Foundation drop the first puck last night, and check out his NOB, complete with small caps for the “of” (with thanks to A.J. Frey). … Brady Quinn’s green dot was missing last night. … Oilers goalie Dwayne Roloson briefly lost his mask last night (thanks, Phil). … An Italian soccer team is trying a new uni-related strategy (with thanks to Roger Faso). … The Kings’ alt jersey has been leaked.

 

247 comments to History’s Most Memorialized Figure Gets Yet Another Shout-Out

  • Robert in Dallas | November 18, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    The Washington, uh, Padres baseball card is so cool. I had no idea that such a thing existed. Does anyone know the colors of the uniform featured?

  • Peter | November 18, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    *Those Bags O’ Douche from Nike really should pay Paul something considering all the free press he gives them….NIKE has to average about 30-40 plugs on the site on a daily basis…seriously…just typing the word on here or getting all the info we need to know on NIKE more than average consumer…

    I say, let ’em crash…

    ps: Oregon UNI’s suck

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    [quote]Morris Levin sent along his favorite shot from the Phils’ victory parade.[/quote]

    outstanding

  • Pat | November 18, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    The Celtics never actually retired the number 18 for Loscutoff (love the satin shorts). When the team offered to do so he asked that they keep the number active so that a future Celtic could wear it. Which of course… Cowens did (I think that’s the most defense Kareem ever played in the NBA…tool).

  • Adam | November 18, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    Not to be picky, but the Dayton Bombers play at the “Nutter Center.”

    Gotta be a better reason to have worn those alt. jerseys.

    http://www.daytonbom... (Nutter Center logo at top left corner)

  • steve | November 18, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Are we sure that Brady Quinn had a radio?

  • Shawn | November 18, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Sorry if this has been mentioned in the past, but I never realized that NHL players are merely wearing a \’shell\’ over their hockey pants to match their third jerseys. If you look at the bottom of his pants in this picture he is wearing his regular black pants with the bronze and white stripes underneath.

    Shawn

    http://www.icethetic...

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    [quote comment=”300662″]The Celtics never actually retired the number 18 for Loscutoff (love the satin shorts). When the team offered to do so he asked that they keep the number active so that a future Celtic could wear it. Which of course… Cowens did (I think that’s the most defense Kareem ever played in the NBA…tool).[/quote]

    kareem’s been hearing that crap ever since he was at UCLA…he’s out there busting his buns every night…you go drag cowens up and down the court for 48 minutes

  • Pat | November 18, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    [quote comment=”300666″][quote comment=”300662″]The Celtics never actually retired the number 18 for Loscutoff (love the satin shorts). When the team offered to do so he asked that they keep the number active so that a future Celtic could wear it. Which of course… Cowens did (I think that’s the most defense Kareem ever played in the NBA…tool).[/quote]

    kareem’s been hearing that crap ever since he was at UCLA…he’s out there busting his buns every night…you go drag cowens up and down the court for 48 minutes[/quote]

    Perfect. That’s the exact reaction I was hoping for.

  • Mark K | November 18, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    Marshawn Lynch had some crazy sock thing going last night.

  • Mike Miller | November 18, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”300663″]Not to be picky, but the Dayton Bombers play at the “Nutter Center.”

    Gotta be a better reason to have worn those alt. jerseys.

    http://www.daytonbom... (Nutter Center logo at top left corner)[/quote]

    Well, they usually play at Nutter Center. However, the Wright State Raiders basketball teams are the primary tenants of the building, so when Wright State needs the building (which they did this weekend), the Bombers have to find somewhere else to play, hence why they playing at Hobart in Troy.

    http://www.daytonbom...

  • mmwatkin | November 18, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    re: Nike cat piss shoes

    Cat wee? I think that is the goofiest term to use in a published article.

  • Kek | November 18, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”300663″]Not to be picky, but the Dayton Bombers play at the “Nutter Center.”

    Gotta be a better reason to have worn those alt. jerseys.

    http://www.daytonbom... (Nutter Center logo at top left corner)[/quote]
    Yes, you’re right, but the Bombers played at Hobart on Saturday night as part of this promotion. The only reason I know this is because I follow the Johnstown Chiefs (hometown) and I couldn’t figure out why ECHL.com was listing two different arenas for the games when Johnstown was in Dayton last weekend.

    They’re playing at Hobart a few more times throughout the season according to this story:

    http://www.daytonbom...

  • DW95MVP | November 18, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    In the following photo from today’s entry

    http://www.icethetic...
    does it not look like the Pens’ player is wearing some kind of shorts covering over is normal black shorts to make them navy?

  • Adam | November 18, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”300673″][quote comment=”300663″]Not to be picky, but the Dayton Bombers play at the “Nutter Center.”

    Gotta be a better reason to have worn those alt. jerseys.

    http://www.daytonbom... (Nutter Center logo at top left corner)[/quote]
    Yes, you’re right, but the Bombers played at Hobart on Saturday night as part of this promotion. The only reason I know this is because I follow the Johnstown Chiefs (hometown) and I couldn’t figure out why ECHL.com was listing two different arenas for the games when Johnstown was in Dayton last weekend.

    They’re playing at Hobart a few more times throughout the season according to this story:

    http://www.daytonbom...

    Thanks Guys (Mike and Kek)…I should have read up on this one before typing. My apologies. (sincerely, not trying to be a “douchebag”)

  • Justin in AR | November 18, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    In regards to the Johnstown Chiefs with ads on their shirttails, my only question is why? Why in the hell is this necessary? I realize that it is minor league hockey and they have to sell ad space. The same goes with any other minor league sport, or lower-tiered sport. That doesn’t mean that the league has to fuck up the uniforms just to make a little extra money. I know it’s a revenue thing, but it looks like shit and it needs to stop. Plaster the boards with all the ads you can put on there. Put logos all around the arena, or have mid-game commercials on the jumbotron, but does it really have to come to the uniforms? There are three minor league teams here and only one of them has “ad-space” on their uniforms and that’s the Arena Football team. It looks horrible. I guess I just don’t understand why the league/owner’s deem in necessary to plaster ads all over a uniform.
    Okay, I’m done now.

  • Kek | November 18, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    Also, regarding the Bic ad on the rear shirttail of the Chiefs’ jersey, they give out free razors if the team scores 7 goals. Personally, I liked the old promotion better (free sheetz hot dog with ticket stub) Hey, I appreciate them looking out for my health but I prefer Gillette products!!

    Seriously though, we’ve never been able to figure out where that Bic sponsorship comes from. Normally, most of the logos on their unis have been local companies or, like the the current jersey (Army) something national but with a big local presence (J-town somewhat of a big military area).

    As far as Bic is concerned, we really don’t know where that agreement comes from and it’s been on the jersey for a few years now. There’s no local plant that makes the razors, etc.

  • Mike Miller | November 18, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Here’s photographic evidence of Memphis’s SODs that are white on the front and light gray on the back. The photo makes it look a lot more subtle then it was on TV.

    http://news.yahoo.co...

  • mmwatkin | November 18, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”300678″]Here’s photographic evidence of Memphis’s SODs that are white on the front and light gray on the back. The photo makes it look a lot more subtle then it was on TV.

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Best photo of this I’ve found so far:
    http://farm4.static....

  • Pat | November 18, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 18, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”300681″][quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.[/quote]

    Double no.

  • DJ | November 18, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    i thought dawkins’ GU patch/sleeve was pretty common knowledge?

  • Jared | November 18, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    The Nike cat urine issue ahs been around for some time. In the mid-90s when I was running cross country and track in high school, my spikes got wet all the time. Nike made the best distance spikes on the market, the Zoom Country and the Zoom Eldoret, but both smelled like cats after i ran in the rain. Not much of an issue in track, but in X-Country you’re in water all the time. I had to store my $120 spike in the garage because they smelled so bad.

  • chance | November 18, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”300672″]re: Nike cat piss shoes

    Cat wee? I think that is the goofiest term to use in a published article.[/quote]

    Well, it is a direct quote.

  • SE | November 18, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    That Onion cover is a doctored version of this by the way: http://www.theonion....

  • Peter | November 18, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”300682″][quote comment=”300681″][quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.[/quote]

    Double no.[/quote]

    N0 and 10

  • Steve | November 18, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    The Yankees are playing the Cubs in a 2-game exhibition series at the new Yankee Stadium in April. Being that it’s an exhibition game, and the Yankees usually wear their blue batting practice jerseys for them, could this be the first time the Yankees wear a jersey other than their pinstripes at home? Knowing how traditional the Yankeea are, I doubt it, but it would be a first.

  • cheechoo | November 18, 2008 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”300682″][quote comment=”300681″][quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.[/quote]

    Double no.[/quote]

    Why not? I like.

  • Peter | November 18, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    Is that Detroit Lions “change” a real proposal or does it fall into “prototye” with these?

    http://www.misterhab...

  • chance | November 18, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”300690″]Is that Detroit Lions “change” a real proposal or does it fall into “prototye” with these?

    http://www.misterhab...

    Well, he’s pretty free with his definitions. Wanting to put as many designs out there, he’s got everything from actual team proposals to rejected designs to fan speculation.

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 18, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”300689″][quote comment=”300682″][quote comment=”300681″][quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.[/quote]

    Double no.[/quote]

    Why not? I like.[/quote]

    The logo is pretty good, but the colors stink.

    Blue’s too dark, and gold has no place at all in that scheme.

  • mmwatkin | November 18, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”300690″]Is that Detroit Lions “change” a real proposal or does it fall into “prototye” with these?

    http://www.misterhab...

    I believe it is just a portfolio piece for that marketing team.

    Just goes to show Lions fans…be careful in demanding a uniform change, you may just get what you want.

  • Peter | November 18, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”300691″][quote comment=”300690″]Is that Detroit Lions “change” a real proposal or does it fall into “prototye” with these?

    http://www.misterhab...

    Well, he’s pretty free with his definitions. Wanting to put as many designs out there, he’s got everything from actual team proposals to rejected designs to fan speculation.[/quote]

    This site seems to back up some of the claims…
    http://www.logoserve...

    but yes, many of them seem to be stretch, but still…that’s why “prototypes” exist

  • kings33 | November 18, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    Can’t find a good pic of it, but the ECHL SC Stingrays have a Saturn ad on their shirttails…

    Seemed to me that an ad there was off the mark by a planet.

  • Peter | November 18, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    Interesting video about GB Packers Testing new prototype Jerseys, (paul, I thnk you hit on this the other day??)

    http://www.saintsrep...

    (the 15 sec. commercial is unadvoidable)

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”300666″][quote comment=”300662″]The Celtics never actually retired the number 18 for Loscutoff (love the satin shorts). When the team offered to do so he asked that they keep the number active so that a future Celtic could wear it. Which of course… Cowens did (I think that’s the most defense Kareem ever played in the NBA…tool).[/quote]

    kareem’s been hearing that crap ever since he was at UCLA…he’s out there busting his buns every night…you go drag cowens up and down the court for 48 minutes[/quote]

    Excellent, Phil…as soon as I saw the previous quote, I deliberated typing the same thing!

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”300690″]Is that Detroit Lions “change” a real proposal or does it fall into “prototye” with these?

    http://www.misterhab...

    I want that Dolphins one.

  • BigBootyLover58 | November 18, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    I think Sean Taylor is easily (sports) history’s most memorialized figure. When players start replacing their jersey numbers with 8″ Gs and Ws, then maybe there will be a discussion.

  • Geeman | November 18, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    Is that a pillow the Eagles player is wearing with his helmet in the pic above?

  • Kek | November 18, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”300676″]In regards to the Johnstown Chiefs with ads on their shirttails, my only question is why? Why in the hell is this necessary? I realize that it is minor league hockey and they have to sell ad space. The same goes with any other minor league sport, or lower-tiered sport. That doesn’t mean that the league has to fuck up the uniforms just to make a little extra money. I know it’s a revenue thing, but it looks like shit and it needs to stop. Plaster the boards with all the ads you can put on there. Put logos all around the arena, or have mid-game commercials on the jumbotron, but does it really have to come to the uniforms? There are three minor league teams here and only one of them has “ad-space” on their uniforms and that’s the Arena Football team. It looks horrible. I guess I just don’t understand why the league/owner’s deem in necessary to plaster ads all over a uniform.
    Okay, I’m done now.[/quote]
    Well, normally I’d agree with everything you’re saying, however, since I’m close to the situation with the Chiefs I’ll offer a counterarguement. I’m not exactly sure how much money is earned by selling ads on the unis but what I do know is that the Chiefs are the smallest market in the ECHL. When that league started, all the teams with them were about the same, however, expansion and absorbing the old WCHL as made the league huge and almost too big for a small market like J-town to survive. Average attendance in the league now is around 4200 while the Chiefs draw less than 2,000 a game. Some places can draw more than 10,000 whereas the Chiefs would need to sellout every game to be at the league average and that’s just not going to happen. It’s a very distressed area financially. For the past several seasons, it has been rumored it will be the last but the owners throughout the years have kept the team in town and they have support from the league office. They really don’t want to lose the last “original” franchise as all the others that came in with J-town had moved on or folded.

    So, as a member of a loyal following of around 1500-2000 fans, I would say do whatever it takes to keep the team in town and keep professional hockey in the building that Slap Shot was filmed in. Obviously, I wouldn’t want my team looking like a Euro team, but if the alternative choice is no hockey town, I’ll bite the bullet.

  • skott daltonic | November 18, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    i have to say, i looooove the current lions logo. if they change that i will seriously be bummed out.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”300698″][quote comment=”300690″]Is that Detroit Lions “change” a real proposal or does it fall into “prototye” with these?

    http://www.misterhab...

    I want that Dolphins one.[/quote]

    so…the UO brainwash is complete then

  • Kerry P | November 18, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”300692″][quote comment=”300689″][quote comment=”300682″][quote comment=”300681″][quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.[/quote]

    Double no.[/quote]

    Why not? I like.[/quote]

    The logo is pretty good, but the colors stink.

    Blue’s too dark, and gold has no place at all in that scheme.[/quote]
    I think it’s a very good prototype logo. I’m not too fond of the unis. This would work well for a team that’s just being formed…but not for a team like the Lions with a logo as great as they have, it’s a downgrade in my opinion.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”300704″][quote comment=”300698″][quote comment=”300690″]Is that Detroit Lions “change” a real proposal or does it fall into “prototye” with these?

    http://www.misterhab...

    I want that Dolphins one.[/quote]

    so…the UO brainwash is complete then[/quote]

    You take that back, Phil!

    BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL! NIKE IS GOD!

    (oh, shit)

  • Joe Drennan | November 18, 2008 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”300665″]Sorry if this has been mentioned in the past, but I never realized that NHL players are merely wearing a \’shell\’ over their hockey pants to match their third jerseys. If you look at the bottom of his pants in this picture he is wearing his regular black pants with the bronze and white stripes underneath.

    Shawn

    http://www.icethetic...

    There are many hockey players who don’t wear traditional hockey pants period. They instead wear a gerdile (my spelling sucks) and the shell over it. From an expense point of view, it’s much cheaper for a team to buy a player one pair of pants that matches their home/away colors, then a shell to match their alt which more and more these days seem to be throwbacks (a move I love)whose colors don’t quite match their standard colors. As a goalie, pats can cost around $200, but a shell is only maybe $15-$25.

    Not sure how much this plays into the equation, but a lot of players don’t like changing equipment up, so they’ll cling to broken in equipment as much as they can. Chris Chelios had, and maybe still has, a pair of shoulder pads from his college days well into his ten-year with the Hawks.

    Also, regarding the Lions logo, it is fitting that the redesign looks like a college redesign since they probably couldn’t beat a college team these days.

  • Peter | November 18, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    I hope this doesn’t catch on in the NBA during free throws…

    http://sportsillustr...

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 18, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    Makes for interesting reading…..

    http://www.globalexc...

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”300684″]The Nike cat urine issue ahs been around for some time. In the mid-90s when I was running cross country and track in high school, my spikes got wet all the time. Nike made the best distance spikes on the market, the Zoom Country and the Zoom Eldoret, but both smelled like cats after i ran in the rain. Not much of an issue in track, but in X-Country you’re in water all the time. I had to store my $120 spike in the garage because they smelled so bad.[/quote]

    Herein lies the rub!

    I am, and always will be a Nike shoehead. It’s been this way since I was in grade school.

    Not having much money, and being a 3-sport athlete, my sports shoes were always my school shoes, well really only when it came to hoops.

    Inevitably, my shoes would become ultra stinky, especially during said Hoops season, when I would wear black socks as well, which would make my feet perspire more!

    I became increasingly more self-concsious about the issue, vowing that when I had the resources, I would never have to deal with this problem again.

    Hence, I wear a different pair of sneakers to the gym each day, a different pair of dress shoes to work each day, so on and so forth!

    Time up, Doc?

  • Chris M | November 18, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    For those interested, my custom-made Bills Beer Helmets were in action last night

  • chance | November 18, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”300696″]Interesting video about GB Packers Testing new prototype Jerseys, (paul, I thnk you hit on this the other day??)

    http://www.saintsrep...

    (the 15 sec. commercial is unadvoidable)[/quote]

    You can watch it on my blog without the commericial.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    why do black socks make feet perspire more?

  • chance | November 18, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”300694″][quote comment=”300691″][quote comment=”300690″]Is that Detroit Lions “change” a real proposal or does it fall into “prototye” with these?

    http://www.misterhab...

    Well, he’s pretty free with his definitions. Wanting to put as many designs out there, he’s got everything from actual team proposals to rejected designs to fan speculation.[/quote]

    This site seems to back up some of the claims…
    http://www.logoserve...

    but yes, many of them seem to be stretch, but still…that’s why “prototypes” exist[/quote]

    That site includes fan-made concepts as well.

    Nothing wrong with that, so long as they are labeled as such.

  • Stuby | November 18, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”300711″]For those interested, my custom-made Bills Beer Helmets were in action last night[/quote]
    And a good side-by-side comparison of a great uniform and a laughable one.

  • Marty | November 18, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    A while back, Paul ran a piece on his philosophy. It was kind of out of nowhere. It was something he had done before, I believe. He even prefaced it by saying something like, “I know this has all been said before… I just thought I’d run it again.” Something like that.
    Could somebody please help me find it?

  • MikeL | November 18, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”300661″][quote]Morris Levin sent along his favorite shot from the Phils’ victory parade.[/quote]

    outstanding[/quote]

    This little video was my favorite coverage of the Phillies parade.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”300716″]A while back, Paul ran a piece on his philosophy. It was kind of out of nowhere. It was something he had done before, I believe. He even prefaced it by saying something like, “I know this has all been said before… I just thought I’d run it again.” Something like that.
    Could somebody please help me find it?[/quote]

    are you talking about this?

    paul just referenced that yesterday

  • Marty | November 18, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    No. That’s not it. That’s good, but not it. This was a condensed piece. Almost pamphlet style.

  • Andy--01 | November 18, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    Rumors of a gold jersey for Mizzou at the blog Bully For Old Mizzou.

    The picture shown is an obvious fabrication. I would be surprised if this actually happened, as it has been rumored in the past, and hasn’t happened.

    Here’s hoping it wouldn’t. While there would be historical significance to a gold jersey for Missouri (the team wore gold during the Don Faurot years), I think it would look pretty darn terrible.

  • duker | November 18, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    Hey Paul,

    I pointed out Dawkin’s sleeve over a month ago. Bryan ran an entry in the ticker.

    I guess you don’t read the ticker on your day off ;)

  • chance | November 18, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”300715″][quote comment=”300711″]For those interested, my custom-made Bills Beer Helmets were in action last night[/quote]
    And a good side-by-side comparison of a great uniform and a laughable one.[/quote]
    True enough.

    The Bills really run the gamut with their various uniform schemes.

  • Peter Wunsch | November 18, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    The NY Rangers are retiring the same # (9) twice in the same month.

    First for Adam Graves and then later in Feb for Andy Bathgate. The latter is a joint ceremony with Bathgate and Harry Howell (#3).

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”300719″]No. That’s not it. That’s good, but not it. This was a condensed piece. Almost pamphlet style.[/quote]

    Not sure what you’re referring to, Marty. Maybe this..?:
    http://www.uniwatchb...

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”300721″]Hey Paul,

    I pointed out Dawkin’s sleeve over a month ago. Bryan ran an entry in the ticker.

    I guess you don’t read the ticker on your day off ;)[/quote]

    Ah, that explains it. I wasn’t just taking the day off — I was on vacation. Never caught up on all of Bryan’s material after I got back. Glad to hear we were on top of the Dawkins thing after all.

  • Terry Mark | November 18, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    In response to the Trail Blazers retiring No. 30 for two players, the Chicago Blackhawks recently retired No. 3 for Pierre Pilote and Keith Magnuson.

    Here’s a link to a column about the occasion.

    I don’t know how often it’s been done in the NHL, though.

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”300713″]why do black socks make feet perspire more?[/quote]

    IMHO, my black socks always made my feet perspire more. I’m not attempting to take on any mythbusters but run around in a pair of black Nike dri-fit socks, which are suppsed to “wick” moisture away, and you’ll see what I mean!

  • Matt | November 18, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    Dwayne Roloson “losing” his mask is hardly newsworthy. I followed him when he was with the Wild in Minnesota and he “lost” his mask no fewer than 15 times a season. Oddly, it’s always when his team is pinned into their own zone (usually on the penalty kill) and a whistle is needed to give his guys a breather and regroup. Honestly, if anyone from Edmonton is listening, feel free to chime in because you know its true. I thought it was smart when he was playing for the home team, now I think it’s cheating because he does it against my home team almost every time he is here.

  • Jordan Sogn | November 18, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”300720″]Rumors of a gold jersey for Mizzou at the blog Bully For Old Mizzou.

    The picture shown is an obvious fabrication. I would be surprised if this actually happened, as it has been rumored in the past, and hasn’t happened.

    Here’s hoping it wouldn’t. While there would be historical significance to a gold jersey for Missouri (the team wore gold during the Don Faurot years), I think it would look pretty darn terrible.[/quote]

    There was also a rumor of this for last years Cotton Bowl vs. Arkansas, but it never came to be…Arkansas instead “treated” us to all red, which looked horrible.

  • Ken | November 18, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    Same number retired for different players (NHL style)

    Novermber 12, 2008. Chicago Blackhawks honored two of their greatest defensemen, Keith Magnuson and Pierre Pilote by retiring #3.

    I’m wondering how common is it for a team to retire the same number for more then one player?

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    Today’s ESPN column is up, and I think you’ll find it very interesting:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Stuby | November 18, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”300730″]Same number retired for different players (NHL style)

    Novermber 12, 2008. Chicago Blackhawks honored two of their greatest defensemen, Keith Magnuson and Pierre Pilote by retiring #3.

    I’m wondering how common is it for a team to retire the same number for more then one player?[/quote]
    Didn’t the Lions retire #20 for Lem Barney, Billy Sims and Barry Sanders in one fell swoop?

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”300732″][quote comment=”300730″]Same number retired for different players (NHL style)

    Novermber 12, 2008. Chicago Blackhawks honored two of their greatest defensemen, Keith Magnuson and Pierre Pilote by retiring #3.

    I’m wondering how common is it for a team to retire the same number for more then one player?[/quote]
    Didn’t the Lions retire #20 for Lem Barney, Billy Sims and Barry Sanders in one fell swoop?[/quote]

    People, you’re overlooking one of the earliest, most famous, and most obvious examples: Yankees, #8, for Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey.

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”300734″]Today’s ESPN column is up, and I think you’ll find it very interesting:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    The people at Nike must be really pissed at Paul…Otherwise they wouldn’t have placed that INCREDIBLY ANNOYING Jimmy Rollins ad over his column!

  • tom farley | November 18, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    chance, I didn’t realize you were the Packersuniforms.com guy! I sent you some Tony Canadeo pix … last year, I think? It stands to reason we’d both end up here.

    Great find on the Washington Padres, Todd Radom. I’d read some about talk of that move, but I didn’t know they’d gotten to that stage.

    I seem to recall that both the White Sox and the Giants were talked about as prospective tenants for the dome in St. Pete when it was first built. The Trop and Milwaukee County Stadium may be the only two stadia built to lure a major-league team, rather than for a team already in town.

    The Met in Bloomington may also fit this description. Paging Ricko

  • Matt H. | November 18, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    If we thought they where douchebags now, what will they be in 2010? From RegisterGuard.com:

    Ducks up for new duds in 2010
    By Rob Moseley

    The Register-Guard

    Published: Nov 16, 2008 06:47AM

    ——————————————————————————–

    Sports: Home: Story
    ——————————————————————————–

    Oregon debuted a new set of black uniforms with a dark green helmet Saturday, and is on track for a complete uniform redesign for the 2010 season, Nike officials said during the Ducks’ 55-45 win over Arizona.

    The new duds, which appeared for sale earlier in the week locally against the wishes of Nike, were solid black with silver numbers outlined in yellow and silver wings on the shoulder pads. The wings were composed of a “film” designed to improve the durability of the shoulders, which have become vulnerable to wear as Nike has attempted to make jerseys thinner and lighter.

    “We’ve saved some weight and reached our performance goals, and created something that’s interesting and unique,” Nike vice president for design and special projects Tinker Hatfield said at halftime. “And the players dig that, big time.”

    Oregon senior receiver Jaison Williams called the new uniforms “some of the best I’ve seen since I’ve been here.” Players have been involved in past redesigns, but those interviewed Saturday said Nike designed the newest version and presented it to the Ducks for approval.

    “I’m definitely a fan of the way they did the outline of the numbers, and the wings,” Williams said.

    The uniforms were made available for sale at a local store this week. That wasn’t the plan, said Todd Van Horne, Nike’s creative director in the apparel division.

    “They should have not been for sale until kickoff,” Van Horne said. “It’s hard to keep a good secret,”

    Hatfield said Nike has targeted the 2010 season for the next complete redesign of Oregon’s uniforms. He said the company aims to tell every class of incoming UO recruits it will have a hand in designing a new look at some point during their careers.

    A group of players including true freshman quarterback Darron Thomas and redshirt freshman linebacker Eddie Pleasant are involved in planning for the set that should debut in 2010.

    “We’re going to try to top what we’re doing right now,” Thomas said. “But it’s going to be hard.”

  • Joe Drennan | November 18, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”300728″]Dwayne Roloson “losing” his mask is hardly newsworthy. I followed him when he was with the Wild in Minnesota and he “lost” his mask no fewer than 15 times a season. Oddly, it’s always when his team is pinned into their own zone (usually on the penalty kill) and a whistle is needed to give his guys a breather and regroup. Honestly, if anyone from Edmonton is listening, feel free to chime in because you know its true. I thought it was smart when he was playing for the home team, now I think it’s cheating because he does it against my home team almost every time he is here.[/quote]

    As a goalie I can say while we’re not taught such techniques, it’s something we talk amongst ourselves about. I faked an injury a time or two to get a whistle. Another common one is to shuffle from post to post, but instead of digging your back blade into the ice for a strong push, you push off the post, knocking it off it’s moorings also resulting in a whistle. You can get a penalty of you intentionally knock the net off, but if you make it look like it was an accident using the technique I described, the refs just thing the pegs at that particular arena aren’t catching the ice properly.

  • Justin in AR | November 18, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”300729″][quote comment=”300720″]Rumors of a gold jersey for Mizzou at the blog Bully For Old Mizzou.

    The picture shown is an obvious fabrication. I would be surprised if this actually happened, as it has been rumored in the past, and hasn’t happened.

    Here’s hoping it wouldn’t. While there would be historical significance to a gold jersey for Missouri (the team wore gold during the Don Faurot years), I think it would look pretty darn terrible.[/quote]

    There was also a rumor of this for last years Cotton Bowl vs. Arkansas, but it never came to be…Arkansas instead “treated” us to all red, which looked horrible.[/quote]

    Yeah. Missouri just wore the gold pants when Arkansas pulled out the vomit-inducing all red. Then they had a repeat performance at the first game of the season this year. Looked like crap then.

  • Jeff | November 18, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    When are you going to tell us about the Mets new uniforms and Citi Field patch?

  • Shawn | November 18, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”300733″][quote comment=”300732″][quote comment=”300730″]Same number retired for different players (NHL style)

    Novermber 12, 2008. Chicago Blackhawks honored two of their greatest defensemen, Keith Magnuson and Pierre Pilote by retiring #3.

    I’m wondering how common is it for a team to retire the same number for more then one player?[/quote]
    Didn’t the Lions retire #20 for Lem Barney, Billy Sims and Barry Sanders in one fell swoop?[/quote]

    People, you’re overlooking one of the earliest, most famous, and most obvious examples: Yankees, #8, for Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey.[/quote]

    On November 12,2005, Canadiens retired #12 for Yvon Cournoyer and Dickie Moore.

    Shawn

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    Tinker Hatfield from post #75, is to me what Frank Gehry, I.M. Pei, or Frank Lloyd Wright would be to an aspeiring architect.

    He designed many of the Nike shoes that launched them onto the pedestal where they now reside.

    http://www.complex.c...

    Coincidentally, rumor has it, that Tinker was an architect hired by Nike to design some of the buildings at their Beaverton campus, and then was enveloped into the fold or cult, as some might say!

  • Lomion | November 18, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    ‘Oregon senior receiver Jaison Williams called the new uniforms “some of the best I’ve seen since I’ve been here.”’

    Isn’t that like saying “This is the best tasting rat I’ve ever been forced by extreme poverty to eat”?

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”300743″]’Oregon senior receiver Jaison Williams called the new uniforms “some of the best I’ve seen since I’ve been here.”’

    Isn’t that like saying “This is the best tasting rat I’ve ever been forced by extreme poverty to eat”?[/quote]

    If that bastard had hands, he’d be Randy Moss.

  • blueraider17 | November 18, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    Dawkins wasn’t the only Upshaw tribute we missed…
    David Thornton of the Titans, too.

    [link]http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06sIbb2bEW6pt/340x.jpg[/link]

  • tim | November 18, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”300692″][quote comment=”300689″][quote comment=”300682″][quote comment=”300681″][quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.[/quote]

    Double no.[/quote]

    Why not? I like.[/quote]

    The logo is pretty good, but the colors stink.

    Blue’s too dark, and gold has no place at all in that scheme.[/quote]

    That logo is garbage, as the colors and helmet are.
    The current lions logo is classic and timeless, the new one looks like a defunct midmajor basketball program.

    How many teams have to darken their colors…rams, broncos, vikings, bills, chargers, eagles, bucs, falcons….

  • tom farley | November 18, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    Nice column, Paul. Good investigative reporting.

  • Kenny | November 18, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”300715″][quote comment=”300711″]For those interested, my custom-made Bills Beer Helmets were in action last night[/quote]
    And a good side-by-side comparison of a great uniform and a laughable one.[/quote]

    apparently they either leak or that guy has a hole in his mouth ;)

  • tim | November 18, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”300727″][quote comment=”300713″]why do black socks make feet perspire more?[/quote]

    IMHO, my black socks always made my feet perspire more. I’m not attempting to take on any mythbusters but run around in a pair of black Nike dri-fit socks, which are suppsed to “wick” moisture away, and you’ll see what I mean![/quote]

    Your sweat is just more visible on black/dark blue. Its not that you sweat more. Happens for dress socks too.

  • Glen | November 18, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    angry cardinal http://www.logoserve...

  • Skycat | November 18, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    Dave Gardner notes that the Canadiens’ 1947-48 throwbacks don’t have the scoop hemline. …

    I still can’t get used to the scooped hemlines. It just looks sloppy to me. I wonder if there’s any rationale for them.

  • Bigtinypig | November 18, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    The Salem Red Sox (formerly the Salem Avalanche) of the Carolina League was recently purchased by the Red Sox organization. In doing so, they changed the name (duh) and the jerseys.

    Unveiling was on Saturday, so this may have already been mentioned, but here are the images they posted online.

    http://web.minorleag...

    http://web.minorleag...

    http://web.minorleag...

  • Philly William | November 18, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    There’s a debate going on about the logo for South African rugby: http://news.bbc.co.u...

  • Teebz | November 18, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    Paul wrote: Dave Gardner notes that the Canadiens’ 1947-48 throwbacks don’t have the scoop hemline.

    That’s because they are the jerseys from two seasons ago. They still have the NHL shield on the rear bottom hem.

    Here are Carolina’s new alternates. Note that there is no silver shield on the hemline. It’s the same as the Blackhawks, the Ducks, and every other NHL team.

    All Reebok did was remove the CCM logo, and embroider their logo on.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    there’s just not enough black in the NHL these days

  • Cort | November 18, 2008 at 12:29 pm |

    Lance Berkman was a guest host of one of the local radio sports shows today. He told an interesting story about Nike. Berkman has a preference for all white batting gloves. He approached his Nike rep, and said that he’d noticed that both Albert Pujols and Alex Rodriguez, both Nike guys, wear all-white gloves; could Lance get a couple of pairs for himself? The rep immediately told him no; the white gloves were reserved for players who’d won MVP awards. So Berkman asked if he could get a couple of pairs made up that were mostly white, not exactly like the MVP gloves, but without the colored strech panels that batting gloves normally wear. Again the rep told him that it wasn’t possible; Nike didn’t do special requests.

    A couple of weeks later, Berkman signed with Under Armor, and got his white batting gloves.

  • Teebz | November 18, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”300756″]there’s just not enough black in the NHL these days[/quote]

    You’re so right, Phil. I wish I could see two teams square off in obsidian black and midnight black. The subtle differences would be hard to spot on TV, but the players would be able to distinguish who was whom. And I guarantee it would be one helluva game.

    Excuse my obvious sarcasm. LOL

  • Mike Engle | November 18, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”300741″][quote comment=”300733″][quote comment=”300732″][quote comment=”300730″]Same number retired for different players (NHL style)

    Novermber 12, 2008. Chicago Blackhawks honored two of their greatest defensemen, Keith Magnuson and Pierre Pilote by retiring #3.

    I’m wondering how common is it for a team to retire the same number for more then one player?[/quote]
    Didn’t the Lions retire #20 for Lem Barney, Billy Sims and Barry Sanders in one fell swoop?[/quote]

    People, you’re overlooking one of the earliest, most famous, and most obvious examples: Yankees, #8, for Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey.[/quote]

    On November 12,2005, Canadiens retired #12 for Yvon Cournoyer and Dickie Moore.

    Shawn[/quote]
    The Expos’ #10 used to be double-retired for Andre Dawson and Rusty Staub.
    St. Louis Cardinals retired #42 for Bruce Sutter, plus the obligatory Jackie Robinson tribute. The Yankees could wind up doing the same thing for Mariano Rivera when his time comes.
    Lots of people strongly predict the Chicago Cubs will double-retire #31 for Greg Maddux and Ferguson Jenkins.
    That’s all I can come up with at the moment.

  • Mike Engle | November 18, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    Post #96 continued
    Not exactly retired, as the Blue Jays have yet to retire a non-Jackie Robinson number, but the Toronto Blue Jays honored #29 twice for Joe Carter and Jesse Barfield.

  • Nate | November 18, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    About the ESPN column: the batting helmet makes me think its not Killebrew. I can’t say for sure about him, but helmets weren’t mandatory until 1971, and the logo clearly has a helmet on. I think I believe Dior in this, it’s looking more and more like an amalgam everytime paul writes about it. Plus, as to Killebrew’s story, why would an artist be just sitting in the commissioner’s office looking at pictures, it seems like the work that would be done at the home office.

  • Teebz | November 18, 2008 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”300755″]Paul wrote: Dave Gardner notes that the Canadiens’ 1947-48 throwbacks don’t have the scoop hemline.

    That’s because they are the jerseys from two seasons ago. They still have the NHL shield on the rear bottom hem.

    Here are Carolina’s new alternates. Note that there is no silver shield on the hemline. It’s the same as the Blackhawks, the Ducks, and every other NHL team.

    All Reebok did was remove the CCM logo, and embroider their logo on.[/quote]

    Apparently my link for the shield didn’t work. Here’s Georges Laraque with the shield on his right cheek.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote]You’re so right, Phil.[/quote]

    you ever get my e-mail teebz?

  • Tim | November 18, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”300740″]When are you going to tell us about the Mets new uniforms and Citi Field patch?[/quote]

    A while back, I believe Paul indicated that the rumors of a Mets new uniform were just that, rumors. I think he said something along the lines that any changes that were going to be made were going to be so minuscule that they would be hardly noticeable.

    There’s a picture of a charcoal gray Mets uniform top floating around; it’s merely a fashion top that will not be used by the team on the field.

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”300757″]Lance Berkman was a guest host of one of the local radio sports shows today. He told an interesting story about Nike. Berkman has a preference for all white batting gloves. He approached his Nike rep, and said that he’d noticed that both Albert Pujols and Alex Rodriguez, both Nike guys, wear all-white gloves; could Lance get a couple of pairs for himself? The rep immediately told him no; the white gloves were reserved for players who’d won MVP awards. So Berkman asked if he could get a couple of pairs made up that were mostly white, not exactly like the MVP gloves, but without the colored strech panels that batting gloves normally wear. Again the rep told him that it wasn’t possible; Nike didn’t do special requests.

    A couple of weeks later, Berkman signed with Under Armor, and got his white batting gloves.[/quote]

    All together now: Douchebags.

  • muddlehead | November 18, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    re:lidge philly saves…i’ll go with beantown version circa 1970…jesus saves and espo scores on the rebound…did i tell you about the movie bob ted carol and alice and the b’s 4 defensemen?

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”300766″][quote comment=”300740″]When are you going to tell us about the Mets new uniforms and Citi Field patch?[/quote]

    A while back, I believe Paul indicated that the rumors of a Mets new uniform were just that, rumors. I think he said something along the lines that any changes that were going to be made were going to be so minuscule that they would be hardly noticeable.

    There’s a picture of a charcoal gray Mets uniform top floating around; it’s merely a fashion top that will not be used by the team on the field.[/quote]

    Correct on all counts.

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”300758″][quote comment=”300756″]there’s just not enough black in the NHL these days[/quote]

    You’re so right, Phil. I wish I could see two teams square off in obsidian black and midnight black. The subtle differences would be hard to spot on TV, but the players would be able to distinguish who was whom. And I guarantee it would be one helluva game.

    Excuse my obvious sarcasm. LOL[/quote]

    I might actually tune into that!

  • fluxcap | November 18, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”300767″][quote comment=”300757″]Lance Berkman was a guest host of one of the local radio sports shows today. He told an interesting story about Nike. Berkman has a preference for all white batting gloves. He approached his Nike rep, and said that he’d noticed that both Albert Pujols and Alex Rodriguez, both Nike guys, wear all-white gloves; could Lance get a couple of pairs for himself? The rep immediately told him no; the white gloves were reserved for players who’d won MVP awards. So Berkman asked if he could get a couple of pairs made up that were mostly white, not exactly like the MVP gloves, but without the colored strech panels that batting gloves normally wear. Again the rep told him that it wasn’t possible; Nike didn’t do special requests.

    A couple of weeks later, Berkman signed with Under Armor, and got his white batting gloves.[/quote]

    All together now: Douchebags.[/quote]

    Douchebags.

  • Teebz | November 18, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”300765″][quote]You’re so right, Phil.[/quote]

    you ever get my e-mail teebz?[/quote]

    Just responded. Work’s been killing me today… and the last four or five days.

  • Minnesota Chad | November 18, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”300687″][quote comment=”300682″][quote comment=”300681″][quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.[/quote]

    Double no.[/quote]

    N0 and 10[/quote]

    those would be super awesome arena league football uni’s. in a strange coincedince, the lions might be a super awesome arena league team.. just keep that crap out of the NFL.

  • Stuby | November 18, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”300757″]Lance Berkman was a guest host of one of the local radio sports shows today. He told an interesting story about Nike. Berkman has a preference for all white batting gloves. He approached his Nike rep, and said that he’d noticed that both Albert Pujols and Alex Rodriguez, both Nike guys, wear all-white gloves; could Lance get a couple of pairs for himself? The rep immediately told him no; the white gloves were reserved for players who’d won MVP awards. So Berkman asked if he could get a couple of pairs made up that were mostly white, not exactly like the MVP gloves, but without the colored strech panels that batting gloves normally wear. Again the rep told him that it wasn’t possible; Nike didn’t do special requests.

    A couple of weeks later, Berkman signed with Under Armor, and got his white batting gloves.[/quote]
    So does Pujols now get the white glove for the other hand since he’s won his 2nd MVP?

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”300760″][quote comment=”300741″][quote comment=”300733″][quote comment=”300732″][quote comment=”300730″]Same number retired for different players (NHL style)

    Novermber 12, 2008. Chicago Blackhawks honored two of their greatest defensemen, Keith Magnuson and Pierre Pilote by retiring #3.

    I’m wondering how common is it for a team to retire the same number for more then one player?[/quote]
    Didn’t the Lions retire #20 for Lem Barney, Billy Sims and Barry Sanders in one fell swoop?[/quote]

    People, you’re overlooking one of the earliest, most famous, and most obvious examples: Yankees, #8, for Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey.[/quote]

    On November 12,2005, Canadiens retired #12 for Yvon Cournoyer and Dickie Moore.

    Shawn[/quote]
    The Expos’ #10 used to be double-retired for Andre Dawson and Rusty Staub.
    St. Louis Cardinals retired #42 for Bruce Sutter, plus the obligatory Jackie Robinson tribute. The Yankees could wind up doing the same thing for Mariano Rivera when his time comes.
    Lots of people strongly predict the Chicago Cubs will double-retire #31 for Greg Maddux and Ferguson Jenkins.
    That’s all I can come up with at the moment.[/quote]

    I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”300774″][quote comment=”300757″]Lance Berkman was a guest host of one of the local radio sports shows today. He told an interesting story about Nike. Berkman has a preference for all white batting gloves. He approached his Nike rep, and said that he’d noticed that both Albert Pujols and Alex Rodriguez, both Nike guys, wear all-white gloves; could Lance get a couple of pairs for himself? The rep immediately told him no; the white gloves were reserved for players who’d won MVP awards. So Berkman asked if he could get a couple of pairs made up that were mostly white, not exactly like the MVP gloves, but without the colored strech panels that batting gloves normally wear. Again the rep told him that it wasn’t possible; Nike didn’t do special requests.

    A couple of weeks later, Berkman signed with Under Armor, and got his white batting gloves.[/quote]
    So does Pujols now get the white glove for the other hand since he’s won his 2nd MVP?[/quote]

    If the glove does not fit…

    (who gives a shit!)

  • Mike Engle | November 18, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”300775″][quote comment=”300760″][quote comment=”300741″][quote comment=”300733″][quote comment=”300732″][quote comment=”300730″]Same number retired for different players (NHL style)

    Novermber 12, 2008. Chicago Blackhawks honored two of their greatest defensemen, Keith Magnuson and Pierre Pilote by retiring #3.

    I’m wondering how common is it for a team to retire the same number for more then one player?[/quote]
    Didn’t the Lions retire #20 for Lem Barney, Billy Sims and Barry Sanders in one fell swoop?[/quote]

    People, you’re overlooking one of the earliest, most famous, and most obvious examples: Yankees, #8, for Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey.[/quote]

    On November 12,2005, Canadiens retired #12 for Yvon Cournoyer and Dickie Moore.

    Shawn[/quote]
    The Expos’ #10 used to be double-retired for Andre Dawson and Rusty Staub.
    St. Louis Cardinals retired #42 for Bruce Sutter, plus the obligatory Jackie Robinson tribute. The Yankees could wind up doing the same thing for Mariano Rivera when his time comes.
    Lots of people strongly predict the Chicago Cubs will double-retire #31 for Greg Maddux and Ferguson Jenkins.
    That’s all I can come up with at the moment.[/quote]

    I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...
    Time to play the young guy card again. The first two are Butch Huskey and Mo Vaughn, but I don’t recognize the pitcher. Help, PL/LI Phil/Shaftman/Marty/any other Mets fan on board?

  • Chris | November 18, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    That would have been an interesting article on the Vikings new unis. I’ve had the opportunity to witness recently how a new minor league baseball logo/uniform is created, and let me tell you, it’s no easy process.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”300775″]I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    you are hereby forbidden from ever posting another picture of butch or mo

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    I’ve been speculating for years that the Mets could end up retiring two numbers for three players. Here’s why: Once Piazza is inducted to Cooperstown, there’ll be a big push to retire #31 for him. But John Franco wore 31 for his first eight-plus yrs with the Mets, and he’s a New York guy, played for the team for over a decade, over 400 saves, blah-blah-blah, so what about his number? When Piazza arrived, Franco switched to 45 — which, of course, will always be Tug McGraw’s number in the hearts of Mets fans. So I could see the team retiring 31 and 45 for all three players — Piazza, Franco, and McGraw.

    Then again, the Mets have been admirably conservative about number retirements. Maybe they won’t retire any of these.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote]Time to play the young guy card again. The first two are Butch Huskey and Mo Vaughn, but I don’t recognize the pitcher. Help, PL/LI Phil/Shaftman/Marty/any other Mets fan on board?[/quote]

    roger mcdowell

  • Ronnie Poore | November 18, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    re: the soccer cleat smell issue…
    as a parent of two soccer players, i can assure you the “cat wee” odor is not limited to Nike. Addidas will give off the same stench after a game on wet turf. oddly,one of the remedies we’ve tried with a bit of success is to put each shoe inside a sock, tie the ends of the socks,then bury them in a bag of cat litter. not a complete cure, but it helps.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”300781″][quote]Time to play the young guy card again. The first two are Butch Huskey and Mo Vaughn, but I don’t recognize the pitcher. Help, PL/LI Phil/Shaftman/Marty/any other Mets fan on board?[/quote]

    roger mcdowell[/quote]

    I don’t understand why you use capital letters in “LI Phil”, but don’t ever use them when you post…

  • scott | November 18, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”300753″]The Salem Red Sox (formerly the Salem Avalanche) of the Carolina League was recently purchased by the Red Sox organization. In doing so, they changed the name (duh) and the jerseys.

    Unveiling was on Saturday, so this may have already been mentioned, but here are the images they posted online.

    http://web.minorleag...

    http://web.minorleag...

    http://web.minorleag...

    Snooze.

    I wasn’t a big fan of the Avalanche name, but at least it had some regional appeal. Too bad the Yankees and Red Sox are ruining some of the appeal of the minor leagues by rebranding out of existence the Avalanche and Scranton-Wilkes Barre Red Barons nicknames.

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”300781″][quote]Time to play the young guy card again. The first two are Butch Huskey and Mo Vaughn, but I don’t recognize the pitcher. Help, PL/LI Phil/Shaftman/Marty/any other Mets fan on board?[/quote]

    roger mcdowell[/quote]

    I started the possible avalanche…The first person to post a “Magic Loogie” reference should be black-balled for the rest of the day ala Woody Paige or Mariotti on ATH!

  • Teebz | November 18, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”300783″][quote comment=”300781″][quote]Time to play the young guy card again. The first two are Butch Huskey and Mo Vaughn, but I don’t recognize the pitcher. Help, PL/LI Phil/Shaftman/Marty/any other Mets fan on board?[/quote]

    roger mcdowell[/quote]

    I don’t understand why you use capital letters in “LI Phil”, but don’t ever use them when you post…[/quote]

    I don’t understand why he’s holding on to his plebeian name. LOL

  • Tim | November 18, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    I usually don’t care one way or the other about Nike and it’s satanic practices (as claimed by Paul), but that Lance Berkman story is amazing. Considering how a superstar like Berkman can’t get Nike to do a simple thing like that for him, is there any surprise that schools, especially the smaller ones, basically have to accept Nike’s “it’s our way or the highway, and since we pretty much own the highway and all the stops on it, it’s, well, really our way” routine?

    Douchebags indeed.

  • Mike Engle | November 18, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”300783″][quote comment=”300781″][quote]Time to play the young guy card again. The first two are Butch Huskey and Mo Vaughn, but I don’t recognize the pitcher. Help, PL/LI Phil/Shaftman/Marty/any other Mets fan on board?[/quote]

    roger mcdowell[/quote]

    I don’t understand why you use capital letters in “LI Phil”, but don’t ever use them when you post…[/quote]
    Maybe so it doesn’t look like li phil which looks like lil phil if you’re scanning quickly.
    LI=Lawn Guy-land, natch.

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”300782″]re: the soccer cleat smell issue…
    as a parent of two soccer players, i can assure you the “cat wee” odor is not limited to Nike. Addidas will give off the same stench after a game on wet turf. oddly,one of the remedies we’ve tried with a bit of success is to put each shoe inside a sock, tie the ends of the socks,then bury them in a bag of cat litter. not a complete cure, but it helps.[/quote]

    I used to take the insoles out and wash them. I would always replace them with those of another, clean shoe while they were drying!

  • LarenR | November 18, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”300737″]If we thought they where douchebags now, what will they be in 2010? From RegisterGuard.com:

    Ducks up for new duds in 2010
    By Rob Moseley

    The Register-Guard

    Published: Nov 16, 2008 06:47AM

    ——————————————————————————–

    Sports: Home: Story
    ——————————————————————————–

    Oregon debuted a new set of black uniforms with a dark green helmet Saturday, and is on track for a complete uniform redesign for the 2010 season, Nike officials said during the Ducks’ 55-45 win over Arizona…[/quote]

    I think that the most telling douchebaggery here is at the end of that first paragraph. Who is making the announcement of new uniforms? The AD? The SIO? The head coach? An equipment manager? Anyone at all employed by the University of Oregon? No, it’s Nike! Talk about the tail wagging the dog…

  • seven | November 18, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    Paul,
    Fascinating piece about the MLB logo. I would be interested in reading something similar about the NBA logo. It is a widely held belief that it is Jerry West’s silouhette, but the NBA has never publically acknowledged it. I recall reading that West wanted recognition that he was the model. I think the NBA thinks it will open them up to royalty claims if they made the admission. Maybe you can track down the logo’s designer.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    mr. engle…chicken dinner

  • Jeff | November 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”300766″][quote comment=”300740″]When are you going to tell us about the Mets new uniforms and Citi Field patch?[/quote]

    A while back, I believe Paul indicated that the rumors of a Mets new uniform were just that, rumors. I think he said something along the lines that any changes that were going to be made were going to be so minuscule that they would be hardly noticeable.

    There’s a picture of a charcoal gray Mets uniform top floating around; it’s merely a fashion top that will not be used by the team on the field.[/quote]
    Link to the charcoal jersey?

  • Tim | November 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”300780″]I’ve been speculating for years that the Mets could end up retiring two numbers for three players. Here’s why: Once Piazza is inducted to Cooperstown, there’ll be a big push to retire #31 for him. But John Franco wore 31 for his first eight-plus yrs with the Mets, and he’s a New York guy, played for the team for over a decade, over 400 saves, blah-blah-blah, so what about his number? When Piazza arrived, Franco switched to 45 — which, of course, will always be Tug McGraw’s number in the hearts of Mets fans. So I could see the team retiring 31 and 45 for all three players — Piazza, Franco, and McGraw.

    Then again, the Mets have been admirably conservative about number retirements. Maybe they won’t retire any of these.[/quote]

    I think that Piazza is almost a given. Especially in light of how they treated him like a dignitary on the level of The Franchise for the Shea closing. He was almost 1B to Seaver’s 1A.

    Franco, meh; I think some of the luster on the “he’s one of our guys cuz he’s from Staten island” bit has worn off in the years since his retirement.

    And if they haven’t retired Tug’s number by now, especially since his death, it ain’t getting retired. Period.

    So I think we’ll eventually see #31 on the outfield wall at Citi, but not #45.

  • Tim | November 18, 2008 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”300794″][quote comment=”300780″]I’ve been speculating for years that the Mets could end up retiring two numbers for three players. Here’s why: Once Piazza is inducted to Cooperstown, there’ll be a big push to retire #31 for him. But John Franco wore 31 for his first eight-plus yrs with the Mets, and he’s a New York guy, played for the team for over a decade, over 400 saves, blah-blah-blah, so what about his number? When Piazza arrived, Franco switched to 45 — which, of course, will always be Tug McGraw’s number in the hearts of Mets fans. So I could see the team retiring 31 and 45 for all three players — Piazza, Franco, and McGraw.

    Then again, the Mets have been admirably conservative about number retirements. Maybe they won’t retire any of these.[/quote]

    I think that Piazza is almost a given. Especially in light of how they treated him like a dignitary on the level of The Franchise for the Shea closing. He was almost 1B to Seaver’s 1A.

    Franco, meh; I think some of the luster on the “he’s one of our guys cuz he’s from Staten island” bit has worn off in the years since his retirement.

    And if they haven’t retired Tug’s number by now, especially since his death, it ain’t getting retired. Period.

    So I think we’ll eventually see #31 on the outfield wall at Citi, but not #45.[/quote]

    And to clarify, I think it will be #31 for Piazza only, not a dual retirement for Piazza and Franco.

  • Mike Engle | November 18, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”300791″]Paul,
    Fascinating piece about the MLB logo. I would be interested in reading something similar about the NBA logo. It is a widely held belief that it is Jerry West’s silouhette, but the NBA has never publically acknowledged it. I recall reading that West wanted recognition that he was the model. I think the NBA thinks it will open them up to royalty claims if they made the admission. Maybe you can track down the logo’s designer.[/quote]
    If anybody cares or remembers, this women’s pro soccer league
    http://www.womenspro...
    has a logo that IS Mia Hamm. Not supposedly or allegedly. A confirmed silhouette of Mia Hamm. It was mentioned here a long time ago.

  • Beardface | November 18, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    You can be expecting a new logo for the BCS in the coming days…

    http://sports.espn.g...

    In related news, after years of complaining about how the BCS gets ir wrong, ESPN talking heads everywhere now agree that a playoff would be completely unnecessary and outlandish in college football

  • JR Boucicaut | November 18, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”300707″][quote comment=”300665″]Sorry if this has been mentioned in the past, but I never realized that NHL players are merely wearing a \’shell\’ over their hockey pants to match their third jerseys. If you look at the bottom of his pants in this picture he is wearing his regular black pants with the bronze and white stripes underneath.

    Shawn

    http://www.icethetic...

    There are many hockey players who don’t wear traditional hockey pants period. They instead wear a gerdile (my spelling sucks) and the shell over it. From an expense point of view, it’s much cheaper for a team to buy a player one pair of pants that matches their home/away colors, then a shell to match their alt which more and more these days seem to be throwbacks (a move I love)whose colors don’t quite match their standard colors. As a goalie, pats can cost around $200, but a shell is only maybe $15-$25.

    Not sure how much this plays into the equation, but a lot of players don’t like changing equipment up, so they’ll cling to broken in equipment as much as they can. Chris Chelios had, and maybe still has, a pair of shoulder pads from his college days well into his ten-year with the Hawks.

    Also, regarding the Lions logo, it is fitting that the redesign looks like a college redesign since they probably couldn’t beat a college team these days.[/quote]

    Pro-stock pants are detachable – the kidney, tailbone and hip pads are one piece, and the thigh pads/shell are another. They are held together by buttons on the upper and button holes on the lowers. It is harder to break in the upper (as the lower is just the thigh pad which isn’t tight on your legs) so players are willing to keep wearing those longer than the lowers.

    Some players will take the lowers when they are wearing an alternate uniform, a pant endorsement or they’ve been traded to another team and swap them out, or they just throw it over the existing complete pant.

    Girdle-wearers (tight-fitting spandex pant system) will just take the shell and throw it on top. That’s what I do.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote]If anybody cares or remembers, this women’s pro soccer league
    http://www.womenspro
    has a logo that IS Mia Hamm. Not supposedly or allegedly. A confirmed silhouette of Mia Hamm. It was mentioned here a long time ago.[/quote]

    totally blew a chance to triple their fanbase by not silhouetting brandi circa 1999 @ the rose bowl

    and also…a reason to not hate nike…so much anyway

  • Minnesota Chad | November 18, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    what in the H, E, double hockey sticks are thos K-State uni’s? what disabled person says “hey I think we should go with purple shorts and lavender jerseys.. that would look great” ok I guess one person is allowed to have a bad idea.. but then what kind of committee votes that,yes this is a good idea. how can there be that many insanely stupid people all in one place?

  • LarenR | November 18, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”300799″][quote]If anybody cares or remembers, this women’s pro soccer league
    http://www.womenspro
    has a logo that IS Mia Hamm. Not supposedly or allegedly. A confirmed silhouette of Mia Hamm. It was mentioned here a long time ago.[/quote]

    totally blew a chance to triple their fanbase by not silhouetting brandi circa 1999 @ the rose bowl

    and also…a reason to not hate nike…so much anyway[/quote]
    Hate Nike less?! Imagine that pic without the soccer balls. Nike just gets in the way of a great shot.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”300800″]what in the H, E, double hockey sticks are thos K-State uni’s? what disabled person says “hey I think we should go with purple shorts and lavender jerseys.. that would look great” ok I guess one person is allowed to have a bad idea.. but then what kind of committee votes that,yes this is a good idea. how can there be that many insanely stupid people all in one place?[/quote]

    Dude, they’re old school. Did you miss the backstory that was in yesterday’s comments?

  • Paul Lukas | November 18, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”300791″]Paul,
    Fascinating piece about the MLB logo. I would be interested in reading something similar about the NBA logo. It is a widely held belief that it is Jerry West’s silouhette, but the NBA has never publically acknowledged it. I recall reading that West wanted recognition that he was the model. I think the NBA thinks it will open them up to royalty claims if they made the admission. Maybe you can track down the logo’s designer.[/quote]

    That story has been written (not by me). Can’t seem to find it online, but I have a printed version of it. I’ll scan it and include it in tomorrow’s Ticker.

  • Minnesota Chad | November 18, 2008 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”300802″][quote comment=”300800″]what in the H, E, double hockey sticks are thos K-State uni’s? what disabled person says “hey I think we should go with purple shorts and lavender jerseys.. that would look great” ok I guess one person is allowed to have a bad idea.. but then what kind of committee votes that,yes this is a good idea. how can there be that many insanely stupid people all in one place?[/quote]

    Dude, they’re old school. Did you miss the backstory that was in yesterday’s comments?[/quote]

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote]Imagine that pic without the soccer balls[/quote]

    trust me…i have

  • Minnesota Chad | November 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”300804″][quote comment=”300802″][quote comment=”300800″]what in the H, E, double hockey sticks are thos K-State uni’s? what disabled person says “hey I think we should go with purple shorts and lavender jerseys.. that would look great” ok I guess one person is allowed to have a bad idea.. but then what kind of committee votes that,yes this is a good idea. how can there be that many insanely stupid people all in one place?[/quote]

    Dude, they’re old school. Did you miss the backstory that was in yesterday’s comments?[/quote][/quote]

    NO! i’m sorry..

    this is old school.
    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    those K-State Uni’s are CRAP! those were retired for a reason. keep tham there.

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”300789″][quote comment=”300782″]re: the soccer cleat smell issue…
    as a parent of two soccer players, i can assure you the “cat wee” odor is not limited to Nike. Addidas will give off the same stench after a game on wet turf. oddly,one of the remedies we’ve tried with a bit of success is to put each shoe inside a sock, tie the ends of the socks,then bury them in a bag of cat litter. not a complete cure, but it helps.[/quote]

    I used to take the insoles out and wash them. I would always replace them with those of another, clean shoe while they were drying![/quote]

    Just make sure that they are not a zoom-based shoe, because a major part of the shoes’ cushioning is embedded in the insole, and you might, therefore, ruin the shoe!

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”300806″][quote comment=”300804″][quote comment=”300802″][quote comment=”300800″]what in the H, E, double hockey sticks are thos K-State uni’s? what disabled person says “hey I think we should go with purple shorts and lavender jerseys.. that would look great” ok I guess one person is allowed to have a bad idea.. but then what kind of committee votes that,yes this is a good idea. how can there be that many insanely stupid people all in one place?[/quote]

    Dude, they’re old school. Did you miss the backstory that was in yesterday’s comments?[/quote][/quote]

    NO! i’m sorry..

    this is old school.
    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    those K-State Uni’s are CRAP! those were retired for a reason. keep tham there.[/quote]

    Why don’t you read the back story to the uniforms first before saying that? It’d give you a little more perspective on why they did that.

  • Kek | November 18, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”300743″]’Oregon senior receiver Jaison Williams called the new uniforms “some of the best I’ve seen since I’ve been here.”’

    Isn’t that like saying “This is the best tasting rat I’ve ever been forced by extreme poverty to eat”?[/quote]
    No, it just proves what I said months ago: kids dig these unis and the school is using it to help recruit. As crazy as that sounds to some of us (me included).

    Make no mistake about it, I thought they were awful. I’m far from a fan of the Oregon unis, just saying there is clearly a generation gap in thinking with these unis.

    Maybe this was addressed already, but is there a website that shows all the different combinations possible?

  • tom farley | November 18, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    and also…a reason to not hate nike…so much anyway
    Brandi’s one of the coolest babes around.

    When Donaldson asked her why she ripped off her jersey? “Some questions just don’t have answers, Sam.”

    Speaking of Brandi and Nike: I hate to admit it, but they’ve made some really cool soccer ads. I love this one (apologies for the crap quality, only version I coud find):

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Aaron Scholder | November 18, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    The Canadiens throwbacks also did not have the NHL shield in the front, because they are in fact from two years ago, as someone previously mentioned:
    http://d.yimg.com/us...

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”300779″][quote comment=”300775″]I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    you are hereby forbidden from ever posting another picture of butch or mo[/quote]

    At least he’s wearing this:

    http://www.sportsecy...

    Not this:
    BTW, check out the name of the link!

    http://www.nyfutures...

    http://a.abcnews.com...

  • War Damn Eagle | November 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    George Mason has changed mascots. Gone is Gunston:

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    In is this stupid looking thing:

    http://voices.washin...

  • u2-horn | November 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    Dallas Stars’ 3rd jersey unveiled:

    http://img.photobuck...

  • War Damn Eagle | November 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”300679″]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    For some reason, that new Lions logo looks dangerously close to this, at least as far as the angle of the head and the ferocity of the pose.

    http://www.kryptonit...

  • M. Princip | November 18, 2008 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”300750″]angry cardinal http://www.logoserve...

    I don’t like that Lions revised logo, that someone posted here, however, this Cardinals logo is brilliant.

  • James P. | November 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”300797″]You can be expecting a new logo for the BCS in the coming days…

    http://sports.espn.g...

    In related news, after years of complaining about how the BCS gets ir wrong, ESPN talking heads everywhere now agree that a playoff would be completely unnecessary and outlandish in college football[/quote]

    ESPN flip-flopping? Never…They are a bastion of sports reporting that would never change sides in reporting of a story just for better ratings/contracts…

  • James P. | November 18, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”300813″]George Mason has changed mascots. Gone is Gunston:

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    In is this stupid looking thing:

    http://voices.washin...

    It’s like Braveheart and The Patriot had a love child!

  • subway | November 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”300779″][quote comment=”300775″]I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    you are hereby forbidden from ever posting another picture of butch or mo[/quote]

    Where’s Ron Hodges? Anyone who can spend 11 years as a backup catcher with one team ought to get some kind of honor :-)

  • Terri | November 18, 2008 at 2:13 pm |

    Ok, just saw the Stars’ new third jersey on their site…what the hell? They didn’t do anything! Turning your home jersey white isn’t getting a third jersey…its changing the color. The idea of third jerseys scare me- they’re often horrific-but seriously, put a little effort into it!

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”300819″][quote comment=”300779″][quote comment=”300775″]I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    you are hereby forbidden from ever posting another picture of butch or mo[/quote]

    Where’s Ron Hodges? Anyone who can spend 11 years as a backup catcher with one team ought to get some kind of honor :-)[/quote]

    I was born in ’77, and didn’t start paying attention to the Mets until I was 8, so Mr. Hodges was a generational omission.

    On a similar note, in my Umpiring course the other night, the Interpreter was discussing Interference and Obstruction with us, and he referenced a famous play with Carlton Fisk in the 75′ WS. I had no idea what he was talking about!

    He and my classmates damn near voted me off of the island!

  • Rich in the BURG | November 18, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    Don’t know if anybody else saw this but….

    according to this article http://www.toledobla...

    Toledo’s new AF2 team will be called the Bullfrogs, and “The team’s merit stickers for its helmets will be images of splattered dragonflies.”

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    so matt…did you google larry barnett?

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”300823″]so matt…did you google larry barnett?[/quote]

    Not until you prompted me to…Oops!
    Then I follwed the link for Mr. Denkinger…Double Oops!

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”300793″][quote comment=”300766″][quote comment=”300740″]When are you going to tell us about the Mets new uniforms and Citi Field patch?[/quote]

    A while back, I believe Paul indicated that the rumors of a Mets new uniform were just that, rumors. I think he said something along the lines that any changes that were going to be made were going to be so minuscule that they would be hardly noticeable.

    There’s a picture of a charcoal gray Mets uniform top floating around; it’s merely a fashion top that will not be used by the team on the field.[/quote]
    Link to the charcoal jersey?[/quote]

    here

    i saw one in person…not too bad, but it’s 80 bucks for a replica…fuck that

  • super390 | November 18, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    Re: the video of the Packers testing prototype jerseys.

    These just don’t look good. The only solution is to bring back long sleeves. The players complain that they don’t want their arms grabbed. Yet half of them wear long tight sleeves underneath. So we have to go back to sweaters, like in the 1920s, but really tight. If the fabric is so amazingly breathable then it will work on hot days.

    Long sleeves, with proper numbers and stripes.

  • Max | November 18, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”300774″]So does Pujols now get the white glove for the other hand since he’s won his 2nd MVP?[/quote]

    Yeah…playing for a 4th place team in the NL Central Division, the weakest division in Major League Baseball.

    That certainly makes him the most valuable in the league.

  • Jeff | November 18, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”300825″][quote comment=”300793″][quote comment=”300766″][quote comment=”300740″]When are you going to tell us about the Mets new uniforms and Citi Field patch?[/quote]

    A while back, I believe Paul indicated that the rumors of a Mets new uniform were just that, rumors. I think he said something along the lines that any changes that were going to be made were going to be so minuscule that they would be hardly noticeable.

    There’s a picture of a charcoal gray Mets uniform top floating around; it’s merely a fashion top that will not be used by the team on the field.[/quote]
    Link to the charcoal jersey?[/quote]

    here

    i saw one in person…not too bad, but it’s 80 bucks for a replica…fuck that[/quote]
    Where did you see it, if I may ask? I’d like to at least see what one looks like.

  • mike | November 18, 2008 at 3:05 pm |

    Why are my posts not showing up?

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote]Where did you see it, if I may ask? I’d like to at least see what one looks like.[/quote]

    i saw it in sports authority in westbury, long island…but im guessing they’re in most area SA, prolly Dicks, and Modells

  • Jeff | November 18, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    I’ll try again..

    Any other MLB uni changes in the offing this winter?

    I saw someone mention the Mets and saw the responses but nothing about the patch (like the Yankees came out with recently). Any idea what that will look like or if they’re even having one for Citi Field?

  • Ian K | November 18, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”300814″]Dallas Stars’ 3rd jersey unveiled:

    http://img.photobuck...

    I jumped on Uni Watch figuring this has already been leaked. Although I was looking for the actual jersey…

    I found the 3rd jersey on the Stars website. The Ticket is promoting the unveiling at 2:15 central time. My apologies if this has been posted in days past.

    One final question: why does the NHL unveil jerseys DURING the season?

  • Mike | November 18, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    Anyone have any clue as to what the Mets patch for Citi Field may look like? I saw someone ask and the uni part was answered but not the patch.

    Also, any other MLB uni changes in the offing this winter???

  • LarenR | November 18, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    Apparently, the green dot affects some players’ performance.

  • Lwiedy | November 18, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”300824″][quote comment=”300823″]so matt…did you google larry barnett?[/quote]

    Not until you prompted me to…Oops!
    Then I follwed the link for Mr. Denkinger…Double Oops![/quote]

    As long as the instructor wasn’t a bitter Sox fan, be interested on his interpretation ;-)

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 18, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=\”300746\”][quote comment=\”300692\”][quote comment=\”300689\”][quote comment=\”300682\”][quote comment=\”300681\”][quote comment=\”300679\”]Since we were talking about the Lions yesterday….

    http://www.fscmc.com...

    No.[/quote]

    Double no.[/quote]

    Why not? I like.[/quote]

    The logo is pretty good, but the colors stink.

    Blue\’s too dark, and gold has no place at all in that scheme.[/quote]

    That logo is garbage, as the colors and helmet are.
    The current lions logo is classic and timeless, the new one looks like a defunct midmajor basketball program.

    How many teams have to darken their colors…rams, broncos, vikings, bills, chargers, eagles, bucs, falcons….[/quote]

    Whoa, Tim. I didn\’t say I loved that logo, I just said it was pretty good.

    Personally, I wouldn\’t change the logo because I too feel it\’s classic and timeless. That doesn\’t mean that \”new\” logo is terrible. It certainly looks better than, say this…http://www.pghsports...

    or this….http://www.sportsnet...

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 18, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    Sorry.

    Bad feline logos…..

    http://www.amebc.ca/...

    http://www.pghsports...

  • Robert in Dallas | November 18, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    Good feline logo:

    http://www.decalsusa...

  • Lwiedy | November 18, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”300757″]Lance Berkman was a guest host of one of the local radio sports shows today. He told an interesting story about Nike. Berkman has a preference for all white batting gloves. He approached his Nike rep, and said that he’d noticed that both Albert Pujols and Alex Rodriguez, both Nike guys, wear all-white gloves; could Lance get a couple of pairs for himself? The rep immediately told him no; the white gloves were reserved for players who’d won MVP awards. So Berkman asked if he could get a couple of pairs made up that were mostly white, not exactly like the MVP gloves, but without the colored strech panels that batting gloves normally wear. Again the rep told him that it wasn’t possible; Nike didn’t do special requests.

    A couple of weeks later, Berkman signed with Under Armor, and got his white batting gloves.[/quote]

    Not to even suggest the story isn’t real but this seems SO douchbaggish that it’s hard to believe. Again, I TOTALLY believe it, but in light of recent developments here, talk about “right in the wheelhouse”.

  • Lwiedy | November 18, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”300661″][quote]Morris Levin sent along his favorite shot from the Phils’ victory parade.[/quote]

    outstanding[/quote]

    Funny side note, the parade was open to all Phils’ full-time employees, which included some guys I work with down here in Clearwater who were up there for the Series.

    They had to decline because the ballpark down here was being used for a community Halloween party. DAMN KIDS!!!

  • Mark W | November 18, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”300819″][quote comment=”300779″][quote comment=”300775″]I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    you are hereby forbidden from ever posting another picture of butch or mo[/quote]

    Where’s Ron Hodges? Anyone who can spend 11 years as a backup catcher with one team ought to get some kind of honor :-)[/quote]

    http://www.checkoutm...

  • Lwiedy | November 18, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”300845″][quote comment=”300819″][quote comment=”300779″][quote comment=”300775″]I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    you are hereby forbidden from ever posting another picture of butch or mo[/quote]

    Where’s Ron Hodges? Anyone who can spend 11 years as a backup catcher with one team ought to get some kind of honor :-)[/quote]

    http://www.checkoutm...

    All right Mets fans, was the armband for Payson, Stengel or both?

  • Matt Parker | November 18, 2008 at 3:41 pm |

    Possible new Oregon State helmet design for next year…
    http://blog.oregonli...

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote]All right Mets fans, was the armband for Payson, Stengel or both?[/quote]

    not MDG? ;)

  • Lwiedy | November 18, 2008 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”300846″][quote comment=”300845″][quote comment=”300819″][quote comment=”300779″][quote comment=”300775″]I always though that the mets had retired #42 for these guys:

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://web.sny.tv/im...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    you are hereby forbidden from ever posting another picture of butch or mo[/quote]

    Where’s Ron Hodges? Anyone who can spend 11 years as a backup catcher with one team ought to get some kind of honor :-)[/quote]

    http://www.checkoutm...

    All right Mets fans, was the armband for Payson, Stengel or both?[/quote]

    Can’t remember if this has ever been covered here, but Billy wore an armband for Casey in 1976. He was the only one. Really terrible picture but Billy’s is the sixth from the left. Look carefully on the left sleeve: http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 18, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”300842″]Good feline logo:

    http://www.decalsusa...

    Well played, Robert!

  • Lwiedy | November 18, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”300848″][quote]All right Mets fans, was the armband for Payson, Stengel or both?[/quote]

    not MDG? ;)[/quote]

    Wow, took me a couple minutes, then, ding, ding, ding. No, they threw a party after that one!

  • Beau | November 18, 2008 at 3:56 pm |

    Hey Lwiedy, I’m located in Clearwater too. I’m pretty sure they usually throw those parties every year though, don’t they?

  • steve | November 18, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    NFL.com has the old logo on the address bar of my web browser, the window tab too.

  • Lwiedy | November 18, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”300852″]Hey Lwiedy, I’m located in Clearwater too. I’m pretty sure they usually throw those parties every year though, don’t they?[/quote]

    BOO BASH, my kid loves ti!!!

  • Lwiedy | November 18, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”300854″][quote comment=”300852″]Hey Lwiedy, I’m located in Clearwater too. I’m pretty sure they usually throw those parties every year though, don’t they?[/quote]

    BOO BASH, my kid loves ti!!![/quote]

    IT

  • CB | November 18, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    Did any one get pictures of the new Oregon basketball white uniforms last night?

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”300856″]Did any one get pictures of the new Oregon basketball white uniforms last night?[/quote]

    We lost to Oakland.

    Again.

    That game is not to be disgust.

  • Beau | November 18, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    Haha, fair enough.

    I seem to remember a couple years back they had some Phillies players signing autographs, or am I mistaken?

    Seems I pay less attention to them then I should.

    Ah, no one cares about those bums down here anyways, seeing as how close we are to St. Pete and such

  • Roger Faso | November 18, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    For all you Met collectors …

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Jim Bullard | November 18, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    I’m so biased and mean toward poor, innocent little Nike that I’m going to link to this mean, biased article about Nike soccer cleats that smell like cat pee after they get wet (really!), even though I wouldn’t have known anything about it if Craig Ackers hadn’t sent the article my way, so I guess he’s a Nike-basher too, whee!

    Growing up every pair of Nikes I owned would get wet and smell like cat pee. For the longest time we thought that our cats were peeing only on my basketball shoes and cleats.

    It wasn’t until after junior high when I started to think for myself and didn’t feel pressured to have the exact same kicks as everyone else that I decided Nike is a piece of shit company and pee-smelling shoes aren’t cool.

    My mother always posited that my shoes would smell like cat pee because they were made out of cat skin by some slave-child in Vietnam.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”300861″]My mother always posited that my shoes would smell like cat pee because they were made out of cat skin by some slave-child in Vietnam.[/quote]

    Sad thing is that she’s probably a little right.

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”300857″][quote comment=”300856″]Did any one get pictures of the new Oregon basketball white uniforms last night?[/quote]

    We lost to Oakland.

    Again.

    That game is not to be disgust.[/quote]

    It should be DISCUSSED in disgust!

    Oakland lost to CLEVELAND STATE before beating the Ducks.

    U of O went with the white invisible wordmark SOD unis, whereas Oakland wnet with the Colorado/Wright State template SOD gear:

    http://www.goducks.c...

  • Beardface | November 18, 2008 at 4:26 pm |

    As many of you already know, the Philadelphia Flyers are debuting their 3rd jerseys to a select group of fans tonight. They are legit throwbacks that hearken back to their Broad Street Bullies days. Probably the quirkiest aspect of this jersey will be the white nameplate.

    Now, before anyone asks ‘why on Earth would they do something so stupid’, let me explain why this was.

    Back in the day, before the Flyers had names on their road jerseys (orange), they had names only on their home whites. When they played in a game televised by NBC, the network asked the teams to put the names on the backs of the jerseys. Since all the Flyers had was the white nameplates from their home jerseys, that’s what they stitched onto the orange jerseys. They simply removed the nameplates from the whites and transferred them to the orange. It didn’t happen often, but it happened.

    So there you have it. Personally, I think its awesome they would include that in the jersey, especially when it wasn’t an everyday aspect of the original intent. Pretty cool.

  • Kenny | November 18, 2008 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”300814″]Dallas Stars’ 3rd jersey unveiled:

    http://img.photobuck...

    I love Doritos

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”300863″][quote comment=”300857″][quote comment=”300856″]Did any one get pictures of the new Oregon basketball white uniforms last night?[/quote]

    We lost to Oakland.

    Again.

    That game is not to be disgust.[/quote]

    It should be DISCUSSED in disgust!

    Oakland lost to CLEVELAND STATE before beating the Ducks.

    U of O went with the white invisible wordmark SOD unis, whereas Oakland wnet with the Colorado/Wright State template SOD gear:

    http://www.goducks.c...

    I suppose that’s what happens when your best player’s a 5’4” shooting guard.

  • Tim | November 18, 2008 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”300837″]Anyone have any clue as to what the Mets patch for Citi Field may look like? I saw someone ask and the uni part was answered but not the patch.

    Also, any other MLB uni changes in the offing this winter???[/quote]

    Well I live in New York and I haven’t seen anything yet referencing the Mets patch for Citifield. I did read something earlier in the year that said that the Mets will have a patch on the uniform for Citifield’s inaugural season, and that it was being worked on in conjunction with MLB, but as of yet nothing has surfaced that I know of that shows what the patch will look like.

    And it seems like the replica charcoal jerseys also come in specific players:

    http://edge.shop.com...

  • Stirpey | November 18, 2008 at 4:45 pm |

    I don’t have time to read but can anyone get a screen shot of the bills game last night after their last touchdown (2:25 remaining in the game) when they pan into the crowd. Some guy was holding up a white sign, pointing to the girl in front of him and I think it said “staph infection?”

    Can anyone confirm this? because if this is true, its my favorite sign of all time.

    Thanks!

    -stirpey

  • Bob W | November 18, 2008 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”300663″]Not to be picky, but the Dayton Bombers play at the “Nutter Center.”

    Gotta be a better reason to have worn those alt. jerseys.

    http://www.daytonbom... (Nutter Center logo at top left corner)[/quote]

    You’re correct, I should have been clearer in my email to Paul…the Dayton Bombers usually do play at the Nutter Center located on the campus of Wright State University in Dayton. If Wright State has a basketball game, which was the case Saturday night, the Bombers get booted…in this case, to Hobart Arena in Troy.

  • Patrick in MI | November 18, 2008 at 5:58 pm |

    Late to the “first uniform” party from Sunday’s comments but here is my little league team photo from circa 1980. Since I never was an athlete, this is where my dislike of stirrups comes from.

    http://farm4.static....

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 6:12 pm |

    An argument AGAINST S.O.D.:

    http://cache4.asset-...

    Although I see a bunch o’ nice Hyperdunks and a PRETTY pair of Penny 2 Retros!

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 6:24 pm |

    Check these out…a combination of all Penny Hardaway’s signature shoes, the 1/2 Cent:

    http://theshoegame.c...

    http://theshoegame.c...

    Penny 1:
    http://farm1.static....

    Penny 2:
    http://solecollector...

    Penny 3:
    http://sneakernews.c...

    Penny 4:
    http://www.pickyours...

    Penny 5:

    My personal favorite, the Foamposite One:

    http://www.directren...

    They’re a combo of ALL OF PENNY’S SIGNATURE SHOES (Penny 1, 2, 3, 4 and Foamposite One obviously)

    Retail is $190.00

  • JTH | November 18, 2008 at 6:58 pm |

    About those charcoal jerseys: there’s a whole line of them. It’s not something unique to the Mets.

    (In case the following paragraph looks familiar to some of you, I just copied and pasted from a comment I posted about two weeks ago.)

    If you do a search on “charcoal fashion jersey” it looks like they make those for just about all the teams. The Mets version appears to be about the best of the bunch. I saw a few others that looked OK (Cardinals, White Sox, Tigers, Yankees, Mariners) but the colors don’t really pop the way the royal blue & orange do. Some looked flat-out horrible (Cubs, Red Sox, Angels).

    I’ve only seen pics of them on the web — so maybe they look good in person.

  • david stoops | November 18, 2008 at 7:22 pm |

    Brady Quinn did have the radio in his helmet I saw him put his hands to his ear holes to hear the play while facing the sideline a few times.
    As far as the Lions “logo” goes-as an artist/designer, former equipment manager and a person who has been around football a very very long time-we all see how things come back full circle, well just cut out the middle man and leave well enough alone. Fantastic unis, love the Honolulu Blue and Silver and the Lion logo is great.

  • Carl | November 18, 2008 at 7:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”300736″]chance, I didn’t realize you were the Packersuniforms.com guy! I sent you some Tony Canadeo pix … last year, I think? It stands to reason we’d both end up here.

    Great find on the Washington Padres, Todd Radom. I’d read some about talk of that move, but I didn’t know they’d gotten to that stage.

    I seem to recall that both the White Sox and the Giants were talked about as prospective tenants for the dome in St. Pete when it was first built. The Trop and Milwaukee County Stadium may be the only two stadia built to lure a major-league team, rather than for a team already in town.

    The Met in Bloomington may also fit this description. Paging Ricko …[/quote]

    …if I remember Minnesota folklore, the Met was built for the Minneapolis Millers, a minor league team. The facility was, however, used to try (successfully) to lure a professional franchise to Minnesota, but it wasn’t specifically baseball. Football was pursued as well as baseball, but in the end the Senators became the Twins and the Met had it’s first major league franchise. I believe the Vikings then followed a season (or two?) later.

  • Jonee | November 18, 2008 at 8:05 pm |

    Watching Syracuse now just got me thinking that you don’t see many SOD jerseys on fans in the stands. I think it’s not very marketable as merchandise because of the fit. I remember seeing a few last year when I went to the pre-season NIT. Even a blue Cuse jersey, but it certainly can’t be a hot seller. I spotted plenty of older S.U. jerseys in the stands, though. I also noticed the “shorts” look much sillier in person. Very billowy. And they make a “whoosh” noise as they run up the court like nylon snow pants, or something.

  • Firestorm | November 18, 2008 at 8:28 pm |

    St. John’s hoops in black for the first time in 101-year history. Sorry, Canadian gov’t prevents me from watching game or grabbing screen cap. Any helpers out there?

  • Jason | November 18, 2008 at 9:07 pm |

    WWE was in Atlanta for their RAW show yesterday and three Thrashers were at the show. They presented World Champion Chris Jericho with one of their awful new third jerseys. Hopefully they didn’t give him a pair of the socks they wear with that jersey, too.

  • Skycat | November 18, 2008 at 9:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”300880″]St. John’s hoops in black for the first time in 101-year history. Sorry, Canadian gov’t prevents me from watching game or grabbing screen cap. Any helpers out there?[/quote]
    Not a pretty sight at that. New rule: If you’re team nickname has “red” in it (e.g., “Red Storm” or “Red Raiders” (Texas Tech)), your colored unis must be RED!

  • Frank Mercogliano | November 18, 2008 at 9:37 pm |

    paul…hop you get this. I got your email…yes the orang e is new..first time we wore orange since 2005-06. Its a third jersey that we can wear home and away so it’ll get used quite abit but since we’ve never been on espn we broke them out for it.

  • karl newkirk | November 18, 2008 at 9:40 pm |

    Love the site, I could go on forever but my first posted comment ever is in regards to the one ladies Varsity Jacket posted on eBay from North Ridgeville, Ohio. It is listed as a Kube Adler jacket but is actually a Rube Adler jacket from Adler’s Sporting Goods in North Olmsted. I am from Bay Village and we had all the jackets in the area and era made and purchased from Adler’s!!! Glad to see the area represented and keep up the great work!
    wish I had my Bay Village jacket to show you, it is in storage in Cincinnati!

  • JTH | November 18, 2008 at 9:56 pm |

    Anyone know if there’s a particular reason the Coyotes are wearing white tonight at home? It doesn’t appear to be a white-out, judging by the crowd.

    The Hawks are in red, so it’s not like they’re wearing their alts or anything like that.

  • Ricko | November 18, 2008 at 10:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”300878″][quote comment=”300736″]chance, I didn’t realize you were the Packersuniforms.com guy! I sent you some Tony Canadeo pix … last year, I think? It stands to reason we’d both end up here.

    Great find on the Washington Padres, Todd Radom. I’d read some about talk of that move, but I didn’t know they’d gotten to that stage.

    I seem to recall that both the White Sox and the Giants were talked about as prospective tenants for the dome in St. Pete when it was first built. The Trop and Milwaukee County Stadium may be the only two stadia built to lure a major-league team, rather than for a team already in town.

    The Met in Bloomington may also fit this description. Paging Ricko …[/quote]

    …if I remember Minnesota folklore, the Met was built for the Minneapolis Millers, a minor league team. The facility was, however, used to try (successfully) to lure a professional franchise to Minnesota, but it wasn’t specifically baseball. Football was pursued as well as baseball, but in the end the Senators became the Twins and the Met had it’s first major league franchise. I believe the Vikings then followed a season (or two?) later.[/quote]

    Generally, it went like this: Metropolitan Stadium, which opened 1956, was built to house the New York Giants. Owner Horace Stoneham had committed to moving the team here. I don’t know if there was a specific year involved.

    But then Walter O’Malley convinced Stoneham to join him on the west coast for ’58. “Listen, Horace, you known you’d gonna move anyway, so…”

    The Chicago Cardinals played two of their regular season games at the Met in ’59, I think it was, against the Giants and Eagles, I believe. For awhile there it looked like was gonna be the Bidwells and the Minnesota Cardinals. Didn’t happen, of course.

    Twins’ first season was 1961. So was the Vikings’. Chronologically, Vikings arrived first, but didn’t play until after the Twins. Vikings ownership group originally was part of the AFL, even so far as partcipating the first draft for 1960 (their first choice was Iowa end Don Norton). The NFL, though, came along and offered that group an NFL franchise for 1961. They took the franchise, bolting from the AFL. The AFL then scrambled and found a group in Oakland to take the franchise spot it had available.

    So, if things had gone a little differently, it could have been the Minnesota Giants, with the Vikings an original 1960 AFL team, and the Oakland Raiders wouldn’t exist. And maybe it would be the San Franciso Senators (hey, Griffith was gonna go somewhere).

    That’s a reasonably good recap of it.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | November 18, 2008 at 10:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”300882″][quote comment=”300880″]St. John’s hoops in black for the first time in 101-year history. Sorry, Canadian gov’t prevents me from watching game or grabbing screen cap. Any helpers out there?[/quote]
    Not a pretty sight at that. New rule: If you’re team nickname has “red” in it (e.g., “Red Storm” or “Red Raiders” (Texas Tech)), your colored unis must be RED![/quote]
    Ehhhh… I dunno. It seems like a no-brainer, but should the Blackhawks make the black alts their permanent home sweaters and ditch the red ones?

    Should Syracuse abandon its blue unis?

    Should Duke shit-can the bla… uh, nevermind.

    Or does this rule ONLY apply to red?

  • Johnny F. | November 18, 2008 at 10:08 pm |

    I received the NHL’s “Holiday” catalog today. One thing was evident….they are definitely focusing more on the female fan, than they (or any other major sport it seems) ever have. All sorts of female-cut jerseys, and clothing lines.

    I’m all for it- A cute girl in a hockey jersey is a beautiful thing!

    They also had a couple pages dedicated to the 2009 Winter Classic. Those jerseys, as we’ve said here before, look GREAT. However, the modern looking, overly-colorful patch on the chest looks totally out of place.

    Lastly, I noticed for $249 you can buy a replica Stanley Cup, complete with Stanley Cup white gloves, and a “Cupholder Certificate”.

  • MPowers1634 | November 18, 2008 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”300886″][quote comment=”300878″][quote comment=”300736″]chance, I didn’t realize you were the Packersuniforms.com guy! I sent you some Tony Canadeo pix … last year, I think? It stands to reason we’d both end up here.

    Great find on the Washington Padres, Todd Radom. I’d read some about talk of that move, but I didn’t know they’d gotten to that stage.

    I seem to recall that both the White Sox and the Giants were talked about as prospective tenants for the dome in St. Pete when it was first built. The Trop and Milwaukee County Stadium may be the only two stadia built to lure a major-league team, rather than for a team already in town.

    The Met in Bloomington may also fit this description. Paging Ricko …[/quote]

    …if I remember Minnesota folklore, the Met was built for the Minneapolis Millers, a minor league team. The facility was, however, used to try (successfully) to lure a professional franchise to Minnesota, but it wasn’t specifically baseball. Football was pursued as well as baseball, but in the end the Senators became the Twins and the Met had it’s first major league franchise. I believe the Vikings then followed a season (or two?) later.[/quote]

    Generally, it went like this: Metropolitan Stadium, which opened 1956, was built to house the New York Giants. Owner Horace Stoneham had committed to moving the team here. I don’t know if there was a specific year involved.

    But then Walter O’Malley convinced Stoneham to join him on the west coast for ’58. “Listen, Horace, you known you’d gonna move anyway, so…”

    The Chicago Cardinals played two of their regular season games at the Met in ’59, I think it was, against the Giants and Eagles, I believe. For awhile there it looked like was gonna be the Bidwells and the Minnesota Cardinals. Didn’t happen, of course.

    Twins’ first season was 1961. So was the Vikings’. Chronologically, Vikings arrived first, but didn’t play until after the Twins. Vikings ownership group originally was part of the AFL, even so far as partcipating the first draft for 1960 (their first choice was Iowa end Don Norton). The NFL, though, came along and offered that group an NFL franchise for 1961. They took the franchise, bolting from the AFL. The AFL then scrambled and found a group in Oakland to take the franchise spot it had available.

    So, if things had gone a little differently, it could have been the Minnesota Giants, with the Vikings an original 1960 AFL team, and the Oakland Raiders wouldn’t exist. And maybe it would be the San Franciso Senators (hey, Griffith was gonna go somewhere).

    That’s a reasonably good recap of it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I often make Ricko the punchline of sophmoric jokes…but this post of his, is why he in invaluable!

    As usual, incredible info, Ricko!

  • JTH | November 18, 2008 at 10:14 pm |

    You know, this team-with-color-in-nickname-must-wear-said-colored-jersey thing reminds me of a DePaul-UCLA game I saw in 1990 or so. The Blue Demons wore red uniforms. At least I think I saw it. Maybe it was a dream. Or a hallucination. I’m really not sure.

  • Mark K | November 18, 2008 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”300887″][quote comment=”300882″][quote comment=”300880″]St. John’s hoops in black for the first time in 101-year history. Sorry, Canadian gov’t prevents me from watching game or grabbing screen cap. Any helpers out there?[/quote]
    Not a pretty sight at that. New rule: If you’re team nickname has “red” in it (e.g., “Red Storm” or “Red Raiders” (Texas Tech)), your colored unis must be RED![/quote]
    Ehhhh… I dunno. It seems like a no-brainer, but should the Blackhawks make the black alts their permanent home sweaters and ditch the red ones?

    Should Syracuse abandon its blue unis?

    Should Duke shit-can the bla… uh, nevermind.

    Or does this rule ONLY apply to red?[/quote]

    And does this mean the Devils and Nets can never wear throwbacks??

  • Terri | November 18, 2008 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”300888″]I received the NHL’s “Holiday” catalog today. One thing was evident….they are definitely focusing more on the female fan, than they (or any other major sport it seems) ever have. All sorts of female-cut jerseys, and clothing lines.

    I’m all for it- A cute girl in a hockey jersey is a beautiful thing!

    They also had a couple pages dedicated to the 2009 Winter Classic. Those jerseys, as we’ve said here before, look GREAT. However, the modern looking, overly-colorful patch on the chest looks totally out of place.

    Lastly, I noticed for $249 you can buy a replica Stanley Cup, complete with Stanley Cup white gloves, and a “Cupholder Certificate”.[/quote]

    Do they have both the home and away jerseys in the women’s cut? Cuz I posted last night that I was getting annoyed that I couldn’t find the Stars’ away jersey in a women’s cut.

  • Johnny F. | November 18, 2008 at 10:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”300892″][quote comment=”300888″]I received the NHL’s “Holiday” catalog today. One thing was evident….they are definitely focusing more on the female fan, than they (or any other major sport it seems) ever have. All sorts of female-cut jerseys, and clothing lines.

    I’m all for it- A cute girl in a hockey jersey is a beautiful thing!

    They also had a couple pages dedicated to the 2009 Winter Classic. Those jerseys, as we’ve said here before, look GREAT. However, the modern looking, overly-colorful patch on the chest looks totally out of place.

    Lastly, I noticed for $249 you can buy a replica Stanley Cup, complete with Stanley Cup white gloves, and a “Cupholder Certificate”.[/quote]

    Do they have both the home and away jerseys in the women’s cut? Cuz I posted last night that I was getting annoyed that I couldn’t find the Stars’ away jersey in a women’s cut.[/quote]

    Yeah, they had both home and away in the women’s cut. They also had some nice women’s clothes, with NHL team logos. I remember one of the lines was done by Alyssa Milano. Anyway, this was the NHL’s catalog, so you’ll pay full price… but they def. had them both. They also had silver and pink themed jersey, but I remember now that you wanted nothing to do with those (good job!).

  • Justin H | November 18, 2008 at 11:06 pm |

    As a proud Oaklnd Alum, I say
    Oregon gets what they deserve!
    thats 2 consecutive years we’ve beat the quack

    HA

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 11:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”300894″]As a proud Oaklnd Alum, I say
    Oregon gets what they deserve!
    thats 2 consecutive years we’ve beat the quack

    HA[/quote]

    So help me god, if Tajuan Porter was a foot taller…….. he’d still be our shooting guard.

  • Nick | November 18, 2008 at 11:11 pm |

    Detroit Lions had GOLD as part of their logo back in the early days. I have a jacket purshased from Ebbets Field Flannels, as well as a cap from Distant Replays, both with the same older logo, with OLD heavily intergrated into the logo.

    Sorry, no pictures, but I will try later.

  • Nick | November 18, 2008 at 11:23 pm |

    regarding the st. john’s black unis http://grfx.cstv.com...
    i think they looked pretty sweet even though it goes against the whole red storm nickname, but as a student of st. john’s i found the new unis pretty cool. Now if only we could play well and get back in the national scene

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 11:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”300896″]Detroit Lions had GOLD as part of their logo back in the early days. I have a jacket purshased from Ebbets Field Flannels, as well as a cap from Distant Replays, both with the same older logo, with OLD heavily intergrated into the logo.

    Sorry, no pictures, but I will try later.[/quote]

    If they’re from Distant Replays, of course they’re going to have OLD heavily integrated.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 18, 2008 at 11:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”300898″][quote comment=”300896″]Detroit Lions had GOLD as part of their logo back in the early days. I have a jacket purshased from Ebbets Field Flannels, as well as a cap from Distant Replays, both with the same older logo, with OLD heavily intergrated into the logo.

    Sorry, no pictures, but I will try later.[/quote]

    If they’re from Distant Replays, of course they’re going to have OLD heavily integrated.[/quote]

    For the actual comment, I do have to say this to the gold naysayers:

    First, gold is regarded as a regal color, and the lion many times is seen as a regal symbol. Seems to go together alright for me.

    Second, gold beats the shit out of black.

  • LI Phil | November 18, 2008 at 11:53 pm |

    ouch…sorry to anyone who may have seen that unfinished piece…(jth)…

    i’ve still got my training wheels on, and, well, i fucked up…hopefully that column will someday see the light of day, but that day aint today

    carry on as if nothing happened

    /there’s nothing to see here, nothing at all…

  • JTH | November 18, 2008 at 11:57 pm |

    OK. I guess I just got a “sneak preview” of a post we’ll be seeing this weekend that no longer appears to exist, so I’ll repost here what I just posted to the comments on there.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Here are some screen grabs I just got of Brent Seabrook knocking Nikolai Khabibulin’s mask off his head AND the goal off its moorings at the same time:

    http://farm4.static....

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  • Luke | November 18, 2008 at 11:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”300738″][quote comment=”300728″]Dwayne Roloson “losing” his mask is hardly newsworthy. I followed him when he was with the Wild in Minnesota and he “lost” his mask no fewer than 15 times a season. Oddly, it’s always when his team is pinned into their own zone (usually on the penalty kill) and a whistle is needed to give his guys a breather and regroup. Honestly, if anyone from Edmonton is listening, feel free to chime in because you know its true. I thought it was smart when he was playing for the home team, now I think it’s cheating because he does it against my home team almost every time he is here.[/quote]

    As a goalie I can say while we’re not taught such techniques, it’s something we talk amongst ourselves about. I faked an injury a time or two to get a whistle. Another common one is to shuffle from post to post, but instead of digging your back blade into the ice for a strong push, you push off the post, knocking it off it’s moorings also resulting in a whistle. You can get a penalty of you intentionally knock the net off, but if you make it look like it was an accident using the technique I described, the refs just thing the pegs at that particular arena aren’t catching the ice properly.[/quote]
    It’s no different than throwing to first 20x while a reliever warms up. Just good clock management. I’m a goalie for an adult league team and if the game is close at the end I’ll make an effort to initiate contact with an opposing player. Why you ask? They’ll likely retaliate and get a penalty, which not only puts the opposing team short, but the clock runs the entire time the penalty is being sorted out. Cheap yes, legal yes. Garth Snow once said “If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying”

  • LI Phil | November 19, 2008 at 12:01 am |

    [quote comment=”300902″]OK. I guess I just got a “sneak preview” of a post we’ll be seeing this weekend that no longer appears to exist, so I’ll repost here what I just posted to the comments on there.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Here are some screen grabs I just got of Brent Seabrook knocking Nikolai Khabibulin’s mask off his head AND the goal off its moorings at the same time:

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

    nice grabs, JTH…hopefully i didn’t screw up your post too badly

    *apologizes and slinks off*

  • Luke | November 19, 2008 at 12:02 am |

    [quote comment=”300836″][quote comment=”300814″]Dallas Stars’ 3rd jersey unveiled:

    http://img.photobuck...

    I jumped on Uni Watch figuring this has already been leaked. Although I was looking for the actual jersey…

    I found the 3rd jersey on the Stars website. The Ticket is promoting the unveiling at 2:15 central time. My apologies if this has been posted in days past.

    One final question: why does the NHL unveil jerseys DURING the season?[/quote]

    I don’t get it, the jersy isn’t even cluttered. And other leagues unveil uniforms during the season. Remember the Lakers white uniforms when they were unveiled?

  • JTH | November 19, 2008 at 12:03 am |

    [quote comment=”300901″]ouch…sorry to anyone who may have seen that unfinished piece…(jth)…

    i’ve still got my training wheels on, and, well, i fucked up…hopefully that column will someday see the light of day, but that day aint today

    carry on as if nothing happened

    /there’s nothing to see here, nothing at all…[/quote]
    There was one?

    FWIW, what you had up there was pretty good. When I first looked at how much was written, I was like “Good God, do I really need to know all this about *subject of post*?”

    As it turns out, yes, I did.

  • Kevin | November 19, 2008 at 12:05 am |

    back to uni matter…i will say oakland\’s jersey\’s are much better this year than last. last year\’s, the SOD were awful. i was at the game versus Michigan and they were just an eye sore to watch.

    [quote comment=\”300895\”][quote comment=\”300894\”]As a proud Oaklnd Alum, I say
    Oregon gets what they deserve!
    thats 2 consecutive years we\’ve beat the quack

    HA[/quote]

    So help me god, if Tajuan Porter was a foot taller…….. he\’d still be our shooting guard.[/quote]

  • JTH | November 19, 2008 at 12:07 am |

    [quote comment=”300904″]

    nice grabs, JTH…hopefully i didn’t screw up your post too badly

    *apologizes and slinks off*[/quote]
    Aside from having to re-type “Nikolai Khabibulin,” no big deal.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 19, 2008 at 12:07 am |

    [quote comment=”300907″]back to uni matter…i will say oakland\’s jersey\’s are much better this year than last. last year\’s, the SOD were awful. i was at the game versus Michigan and they were just an eye sore to watch.

    [quote comment=\”300895\”][quote comment=\”300894\”]As a proud Oaklnd Alum, I say
    Oregon gets what they deserve!
    thats 2 consecutive years we\’ve beat the quack

    HA[/quote]

    So help me god, if Tajuan Porter was a foot taller…….. he\’d still be our shooting guard.[/quote][/quote]

    I’m losing a lifetime’s worth of credit going to U of O. You have little to worry about.

  • LI Phil | November 19, 2008 at 12:14 am |

    [quote comment=”300908″][quote comment=”300904″]

    nice grabs, JTH…hopefully i didn’t screw up your post too badly

    *apologizes and slinks off*[/quote]
    Aside from having to re-type “Nikolai Khabibulin,” no big deal.[/quote]

    oh, and, check your email

  • Jefferson D | November 19, 2008 at 12:14 am |

    I know its late and probably no one will read this, but does anyone know of a good nhl uniform history site besides nhluniforms.com? I’m especially looking for blackhawks history.

  • Teebz | November 19, 2008 at 12:21 am |

    [quote comment=”300881″]WWE was in Atlanta for their RAW show yesterday and three Thrashers were at the show. They presented World Champion Chris Jericho with one of their awful new third jerseys. Hopefully they didn’t give him a pair of the socks they wear with that jersey, too.[/quote]

    Chris Jericho’s dad is Ted Irvine, former New York Ranger, Boston Bruin, Los Angeles King, and St. Louis Blue.

    Chris was a pretty decent hockey player growing up, but he didn’t have the same scoring ability as his dad.

    “I was a grinder, a penalty killer, a checker, a Craig Berube, Mike Eagles kind of guy,” Jericho joked in an interview. “I was okay, but wasn’t NHL material, although now with 30 teams I could probably play for the Blue Jackets.” LOL – ZING!

  • Teebz | November 19, 2008 at 12:22 am |

    [quote comment=”300911″]I know its late and probably no one will read this, but does anyone know of a good nhl uniform history site besides nhluniforms.com? I’m especially looking for blackhawks history.[/quote]

    What kind of history? Visual?

  • Jefferson D | November 19, 2008 at 12:27 am |

    [quote comment=”300913″][quote comment=”300911″]I know its late and probably no one will read this, but does anyone know of a good nhl uniform history site besides nhluniforms.com? I’m especially looking for blackhawks history.[/quote]

    What kind of history? Visual?[/quote]

    Preferably. I was actually hoping you’d be around to advise, Teebz.

  • LI Phil | November 19, 2008 at 12:30 am |

    [quote]“I was okay, but wasn’t NHL material, although now with 30 teams I could probably play for the Blue Jackets Shirts”[/quote]

    (fixed)

  • Teebz | November 19, 2008 at 12:31 am |

    [quote comment=”300914″][quote comment=”300913″][quote comment=”300911″]I know its late and probably no one will read this, but does anyone know of a good nhl uniform history site besides nhluniforms.com? I’m especially looking for blackhawks history.[/quote]

    What kind of history? Visual?[/quote]

    Preferably. I was actually hoping you’d be around to advise, Teebz.[/quote]

    I’ll poke around the ol’ Interweb to see what I can find. If I find anything good, I’ll link it here. It’s later here and I’m sleepy, but if I don’t get back to you tonight, I’ll post something tomorrow. :o)

  • Luke | November 19, 2008 at 12:32 am |

    [quote comment=”300915″][quote]“I was okay, but wasn’t NHL material, although now with 30 teams I could probably play for the Blue Jackets Shirts”[/quote]

    (fixed)[/quote]

    Meh…

  • Jefferson D | November 19, 2008 at 12:34 am |

    [quote comment=”300916″][quote comment=”300914″][quote comment=”300913″][quote comment=”300911″]I know its late and probably no one will read this, but does anyone know of a good nhl uniform history site besides nhluniforms.com? I’m especially looking for blackhawks history.[/quote]

    What kind of history? Visual?[/quote]

    Preferably. I was actually hoping you’d be around to advise, Teebz.[/quote]

    I’ll poke around the ol’ Interweb to see what I can find. If I find anything good, I’ll link it here. It’s later here and I’m sleepy, but if I don’t get back to you tonight, I’ll post something tomorrow. :o)[/quote]

    Thanks man, I’ll probably post again tomorrow morning when more people are reading this.

  • Teebz | November 19, 2008 at 12:44 am |

    Lots of good old photos here, but there seems to be a lot of sites with just a few photos.

    You may want to try the SI Vault as well. I found a few there that were solid.

    I need to get to bed, though. I’ll continue looking tomorrow.

  • Nick | November 19, 2008 at 1:48 am |

    Actually,
    The old Detroit Lions logo sold by Ebbets Field and Distant Replays were true copies of the authentic early Lions logo, as I saw a real “game-worn” 1940’s-1950’s Lions coach’s/trainer’s jacket (with that same logo, and the wear and tear to prove its authenticity) up for auction on Grey Flannel Auctions some time back.

    While I point out that GOLD was in fact part of their early logo, the 1950’s-1990’s Lions logos and colors (Silver and Honolulu Blue ONLY !!!) are the best.

    EVEN MORE THAN THE METS ….
    The LIONS desparately need to DITCH THE BLACK !!!

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 19, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    [quote comment=”300884″]Love the site, I could go on forever but my first posted comment ever is in regards to the one ladies Varsity Jacket posted on eBay from North Ridgeville, Ohio. It is listed as a Kube Adler jacket but is actually a Rube Adler jacket from Adler’s Sporting Goods in North Olmsted. I am from Bay Village and we had all the jackets in the area and era made and purchased from Adler’s!!! Glad to see the area represented and keep up the great work!
    wish I had my Bay Village jacket to show you, it is in storage in Cincinnati![/quote]

    Welcome aboard, Karl!

    Also good to see our favorite college administrator, Frank Mercogliano post!