Ladies and Gentlemen, the 44th President of the United States — Lastings Milledge

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How about that — the Nats are getting back to their Montreal roots.

No, not their Washington Senators roots. More like their Montreal Expos roots. I’m referring to their new road jersey, which was unveiled yesterday. The good news is that the script is a nice reminder of the old Senators days; the bad news is that it’s rendered in red, but they’re still gonna wear their navy road cap (the old road jersey, you’ll recall, had navy lettering to match the cap), so the net effect is somewhat Expos-esque, and not in a good way.

Also not good: They’ve dropped the beveled uni number on the front but they’re keeping it on the back and on the sleeve logo. [Correction: Turns out the front uni number will be beveled -- the ones at the unveiling were wrong.] Toss in the script and you’ve got MLB’s worst mish-mash of typographic styles. I was never in love with the beveling to begin with, but at least it was consistent — this is just a mess.

Oh, and there’s also a new red alt jersey that looks a lot like someone else’s and a new blue alt jersey that they apparently picked up at a 99¢ store or something. It’ll be paired with this cap (not to be confused with this cap), creating an effect that Marc Fisher has aptly described as “something that would have emerged from the design studio of Up With People! if they’d hired the staff of the Independence Day parade.”

But I’m sure you don’t need my help to laugh at the alternate jerseys. The real shame is the road jersey, because they could have created something nice and instead just played mix-and-match.

Party-line coverage here, video coverage here (a very good report) and here, some photos from reader Mike Page, who was at the unveiling, here, and you can actually download a Power Point file detailing all the changes here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: It’s kinda sad that there’s something called the Miami Xtreme Youth Football League. As you might expect, their uniforms practically qualify as child abuse (with thanks to Andrew Tanker). … Ken Clark attended Saturday’s USC/Washington game and noticed something interesting: a guy standing behind the end zone while wearing a black suit emblazoned with a giant swoosh. “Let me reiterate that he was wearing a suit, not a sports jersey or some other casualwear,” says Ken. “He also had a swoosh on the front, somewhere near his breast pocket. This guy carried a portable two-way radio/walkie-talkie, so I think he works for USC in some manner. Any idea what was going on there?” Nope. Anyone else..? … Tris Wykes has written an article about field hockey eyewear. … Check this out: Oregon State was wearing solid black way back in 1965 (nice find by Mike Mazzucchelli). … Here’s a good view of Andrew Raycroft’s new mask (with thanks to John Muir). … I’m generally no fan of Reebok, but I in this case I’ll make an exception (with thanks to Roger Faso). … The Tommie Agee marker lives! Dwayne White says he found that photo on a baseball-fever.com thread, but he didn’t provide any background info regarding what’s happening to the marker. Did someone buy it? Is it just sitting in the Meigray warehouse? I’ll follow up and have more info next week. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Here’s another shot I’d never seen of NC State’s unitards. … Utah wore solid black last night. … Wampum in action! Great find by Larry Wiederecht.

 

162 comments to Ladies and Gentlemen, the 44th President of the United States — Lastings Milledge

  • Cosmo | November 7, 2008 at 8:47 am |

    And the female version of the jersey doesn’t match the real one. Quality control people, quality control.

  • Jason Axel | November 7, 2008 at 8:47 am |

    The new road uniform, may be making their typography even more confusing, but its 100 times better looking than the old road uni.

    And those stars and stripes alternates are gaud awful.

    2 consecutive days of bad baseball jerseys makes me sad.

    Virginia Tech’s monotone uniforms last night were nasty too.

  • Justin B. | November 7, 2008 at 8:50 am |

    The Xtreme need to pick one style of sock.

  • Bigtinypig | November 7, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    Does anyone else know anything about this Flutie Statue unveiling at BC? I heard about it on Mike and Mike. Like to see what he’s wearing. Think the swoosh will appear?

  • goindeep24 | November 7, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    i thought i had read somewhere on uniwatch, can’t remember if it was paul’s post or in comments, that the dolphins were in discussions to change their uniforms. is this confirmed?

  • jesse | November 7, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    Overall, interesting observations about the new Nats unis. After thinking about it, and being in the service, the blue alts are a bit much. Mr. Lukas, 2 things: 1)are you going to make it to D.C. soon? and 2)there is a guy buy the name of Phil Wood who has a huge stash of Senators unis, etc. Definetly recommend you touch base(no pun intended) Anyway, at least it’s not purple

  • Adam | November 7, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    I don’t know about you guys, but im kinda mad a sub-par team (the Nationals) are stealing jerseys from my own favorite sub-par team (the Reds)…

  • Peter Wunsch | November 7, 2008 at 9:01 am |

    Today’s NY Times has an article about the guy who is responsible for making sure that the MLB outfield ads do not the hide the pitch from the batters (too much white or yellow).

  • Kyle | November 7, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    Did Todd Radom play any part in these Nationals changes, or did they just do this on their own?

    It seems like such a departure from the consistency of his original design, that I’m guessing they didn’t ask his opinion.

  • Kim | November 7, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    I agree that some consistency on the Nats road unis would have been nice, but the script Washington, is TONS better than the WordArt inspired version.

    What’s up with the DC and W’s on the alternates (men’s version) being so freakin’ huge?

    And why does a team that doesn’t have two outfielders who can catch flyballs on a regular basis sporting two alternate uniforms?

  • Alex K | November 7, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    The Virginia Tech Hokies wore all maroon for the first time since getting their new Nike digs. Apparently Darren Evans, who set the school’s single-game rushing record, had a few knee-pad problems.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    i am so getting a swoosh suit for casual fridays

  • Kelly | November 7, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    Per the Nationals new jerseys…and here I thought Starter was dead and buried. It’s like 1994 again.

  • u2-horn | November 7, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    The swoosh on that suit looks homemade to me–it’s too fat at the tail end. It also looks like there’s a numeral 20 (or possibly 28) written in it on the left side.

    Weird.

  • union jack | November 7, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    Never mind Oregon State in black, dig the vertical on that D-lineman!

  • Shane | November 7, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment="298706"]Never mind Oregon State in black, dig the vertical on that D-lineman![/quote]

    Bill Yearby in the Rose Bowl. Michigan crushed the Ducks that year. Maybe the superstition of not wearing “unlucky” colors after a tough loss goes back to 1965 too!

  • floormaster squeeze | November 7, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    Man in Nike suit = Mondo Toolo

  • scott | November 7, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment="298693"]The new road uniform, may be making their typography even more confusing, but its 100 times better looking than the old road uni.
    [/quote]

    I liked the old Washington road jerseys. They had a nice, modern look without being too over the top.

  • CtSports | November 7, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    Did anyone check out the all black uni’s for UTAH last night. Thought they were going to be a jinx. But they got lucky kicker missed fg’s. Love Fresno St tonight get full write up http://www.CTSportsP...

  • Bopper | November 7, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    Ask and ye shall recieve… Hagerstown’s own Rodney Monroe in a unitard…

    This is going to be a good day.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment="298707"][quote comment="298706"]Never mind Oregon State in black, dig the vertical on that D-lineman![/quote]

    Bill Yearby in the Rose Bowl. Michigan crushed the Ducks that year. Maybe the superstition of not wearing “unlucky” colors after a tough loss goes back to 1965 too![/quote]

    ducks or beavers?

  • James Allen | November 7, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    The Nike suit is being worn by former Trojan Anthony Davis…here’s a front view:

    http://www.latimes.c...

  • Bigtinypig | November 7, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    See now i’m confused. Does the retail version not have the front numbers on it? If so, you could always sew on your own number with the same font as the back number if you were to buy one of these bad boys.

    I think I may agree with most people when I say that they just missed a great jersey with these things. I like what they’re trying to do but they didn’t quite hit it.

    Regarding the alternates (red/blue); the red could be good, but it’s not original at all (see reds fans above), the blue is bad, but as I read yesterday, it will only be seen 7 times in a season. Who knows, maybe they win all 7 and are tempted to redo their whole jersey design in ’10.

    shudder..

  • interlockingtc | November 7, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    Shouldn’t the T. Agee marker be displayed somewhere in or around the Mets new stadium?

    Two different number styles on the front and back of a baseball jersey? A mistake, yes? That is just not done deliberatley.

  • Shane | November 7, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment="298713"][quote comment="298707"][quote comment="298706"]Never mind Oregon State in black, dig the vertical on that D-lineman![/quote]

    Bill Yearby in the Rose Bowl. Michigan crushed the Ducks that year. Maybe the superstition of not wearing “unlucky” colors after a tough loss goes back to 1965 too![/quote]

    ducks or beavers?[/quote]

    oops, Beavers. I’m always confusing my Ducks and Beavers! And looking thru my library, that might not be Yearby. So I could be 0 and 2 on my comment!

  • Kim | November 7, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment="298715"]See now i’m confused. Does the retail version not have the front numbers on it? If so, you could always sew on your own number with the same font as the back number if you were to buy one of these bad boys.
    [/quote]

    Any jersey bought would be ‘uncustomized’ so they’d come blank on the back and the front number area would also be blank. So the only conflict would be between the sleeve DC and front Washington (ironic that there’d be stylistic differences within Washington DC). Effectively minimizing Paul’s big complaint.

    They’d be better off ditching the bevels altogether.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote]I’m always confusing my Ducks and Beavers![/quote]

    NTTAWWT

  • Justin in AR | November 7, 2008 at 9:58 am |

    As inaccurate as the new Nat’s road jerseys are, I am rather fond of them. I love the script. I love the front number. I never was a fan of the beveled number or the beveled logo. I don’t know why they didn’t phase that out. But, as a whole, these are a massive improvement.

  • JF in DC | November 7, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    Local DC baseball scribe and uni-fan Phil Wood gives a pretty good breakdown on the new Nats garb.

    http://nats320.blogs...

  • Shane | November 7, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment="298719"][quote]I’m always confusing my Ducks and Beavers![/quote]

    NTTAWWT[/quote]

    Heh.

  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    Clearly Marc Fisher (The Washinton Post columnist who made the “Up With People” comment) has been watching plenty of Caps hockey for the last couple seasons:
    [quote]The old Bullets and Caps were deep into the red, white and blue years ago, and a fat lot of good it did them. You’ll notice that they’ve left that graphics legacy far behind them–and they’re doing far better these days.[/quote]
    Yep. far behind, indeed.

  • Glen | November 7, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment="298714"]The Nike suit is being worn by former Trojan Anthony Davis…here’s a front view:

    http://www.latimes.c...

    What a degenerate POS

  • Wes | November 7, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    I attended the U of Minnesota’s exhibition basketball game vs. D-II Northern State University last night and got my first look at their new uniforms. The most distinctive element is the maroon piping on the jersey and shorts. Rather than starting at the armpit and running straight down the side, it starts at about the shoulder blades and runs straight down the sides of the player’s back. On the shorts, the stripe swings toward the front ending up in front of the “M” logo centered on the side of the short. This page has the best photo I could find of it.

    http://www.gopherspo...

    The biggest problem is the stripes on the jerseys rarely line up with the stripes on the shorts, and it seems more noticable when that intersection is located on the player’s back rather than his sides.

    Another unique aspect is when the stripe meets the arm holes, it turns gold, so there is a gold border around the arm, as you can see in this picture.

    http://www.gopherspo...

    The gold on the stripe appears to be shinier than the gold in the rest of the jersey so it stands out in person – basically a bright yellow strip on the shoulders.

    There was also some RNOB action with Ralph Sampson III, although I don’t have a pic. And Northern State has a unique design on the front of the jersey. It says “WOLVES” in large letters, and underneath that it says “Northern State” in much smaller letters, which you can see in this gallery:

    http://nsuwolvesathl...

  • Minnesota Chad | November 7, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    I am absolutely torn on what to think….

    Pittsburgh penguins alternate jerseys.. they have sportd the light blue in the past and will again this year.. it’s a really nice jersey and looks good on the ice.. but…
    one of my favorite anomalies in all of sports is the all professional teams from pittsburgh wear black and yellow.. now the black and yellow are still in the jersey, but not he prodominant color.. i just don’t know what to think.. I wish the penguins jerseys were were more ugly, that way I could give a more whole hearted complaint..

    on a related note:: next time i see the steelers in those ugly yellow jerseys with the ugly helmets I’m probably gonna ralph.

  • Kim | November 7, 2008 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment="298714"]The Nike suit is being worn by former Trojan Anthony Davis…here’s a front view:

    http://www.latimes.c...

    Wow.

    I’m starting my own ‘foundation’ it’ll also go towards sending kids to school. But I’ll have more meager goals, only two kids…..I’ll start with my own.

    Can’t this guy get a job as a WalMart greeter?

  • Stirpey | November 7, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    I am absolutely torn on what to think….

    Pittsburgh penguins alternate jerseys.. they have sportd the light blue in the past and will again this year.. it’s a really nice jersey and looks good on the ice.. but…
    one of my favorite anomalies in all of sports is the all professional teams from pittsburgh wear black and yellow.. now the black and yellow are still in the jersey, but not he prodominant color.. i just don’t know what to think.. I wish the penguins jerseys were were more ugly, that way I could give a more whole hearted complaint..

    on a related note:: next time i see the steelers in those ugly yellow jerseys with the ugly helmets I’m probably gonna ralph.

    I disagree. I think it’s fine the Pens and Steelers switch it up every now and then. Now, I will admit the Pirates look like Team Mickey D’s when they wear the red alt’s but at least the Pens and Steelers go back to their roots to find their alternates! Let’s just be thankful the Pens don’t have some gold alternate or the Steelers have a yellow alternate!

    Throwbacks are nice. Red vests are not.

  • Stirpey | November 7, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    sorry for my bad html skills!

  • KW | November 7, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment="298722"][quote comment="298719"][quote]I’m always confusing my Ducks and Beavers![/quote]

    NTTAWWT[/quote]

    Heh.[/quote]

    Not That There’s Anything Wrong With That

  • Mark in Cincy | November 7, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment="298698"]I don’t know about you guys, but im kinda mad a sub-par team (the Nationals) are stealing jerseys from my own favorite sub-par team (the Reds)…[/quote]
    They have our old GM, a good deal of our old players, and some of their coaches used to play for us (Lenny Harris, I believe) … Leather Pants wants DC to be Cincinnati east … he ruined 1 team and is going for another

  • Pat | November 7, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment="298695"]Does anyone else know anything about this Flutie Statue unveiling at BC? I heard about it on Mike and Mike. Like to see what he’s wearing. Think the swoosh will appear?[/quote]

    Funny… BC is a reebok school, though.

  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment="298725"]I attended the U of Minnesota’s exhibition basketball game vs. D-II Northern State University last night and got my first look at their new uniforms. The most distinctive element is the maroon piping on the jersey and shorts. Rather than starting at the armpit and running straight down the side, it starts at about the shoulder blades and runs straight down the sides of the player’s back. On the shorts, the stripe swings toward the front ending up in front of the “M” logo centered on the side of the short. This page has the best photo I could find of it.

    http://www.gopherspo...

    The biggest problem is the stripes on the jerseys rarely line up with the stripes on the shorts, and it seems more noticable when that intersection is located on the player’s back rather than his sides.

    Another unique aspect is when the stripe meets the arm holes, it turns gold, so there is a gold border around the arm, as you can see in this picture.

    http://www.gopherspo...

    The gold on the stripe appears to be shinier than the gold in the rest of the jersey so it stands out in person – basically a bright yellow strip on the shoulders.

    There was also some RNOB action with Ralph Sampson III, although I don’t have a pic. And Northern State has a unique design on the front of the jersey. It says “WOLVES” in large letters, and underneath that it says “Northern State” in much smaller letters, which you can see in this gallery:

    http://nsuwolvesathl...
    Is that a teeny-tiny swoosh I see above the M on the collar?

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment="298714"]The Nike suit is being worn by former Trojan Anthony Davis[/quote]

    the express autographer: the ernie anthony davis story

  • Minnesota Chad | November 7, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote] Throwbacks are nice. Red vests are not.[/quote]

    agreed..

  • Paul Lukas | November 7, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment="298733"][quote comment="298725"]I attended the U of Minnesota’s exhibition basketball game vs. D-II Northern State University last night and got my first look at their new uniforms. The most distinctive element is the maroon piping on the jersey and shorts. Rather than starting at the armpit and running straight down the side, it starts at about the shoulder blades and runs straight down the sides of the player’s back. On the shorts, the stripe swings toward the front ending up in front of the “M” logo centered on the side of the short. This page has the best photo I could find of it.

    http://www.gopherspo...

    The biggest problem is the stripes on the jerseys rarely line up with the stripes on the shorts, and it seems more noticable when that intersection is located on the player’s back rather than his sides.

    Another unique aspect is when the stripe meets the arm holes, it turns gold, so there is a gold border around the arm, as you can see in this picture.

    http://www.gopherspo...

    The gold on the stripe appears to be shinier than the gold in the rest of the jersey so it stands out in person – basically a bright yellow strip on the shoulders.

    There was also some RNOB action with Ralph Sampson III, although I don’t have a pic. And Northern State has a unique design on the front of the jersey. It says “WOLVES” in large letters, and underneath that it says “Northern State” in much smaller letters, which you can see in this gallery:

    http://nsuwolvesathl...
    Is that a teeny-tiny swoosh I see above the M on the collar?[/quote]

    No — just a reflection:
    http://www.gopherspo...

    Maker’s marks are not allowed on college hoops jerseys.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment="298735"][quote] Throwbacks are nice. Red vests are not.[/quote]

    agreed..[/quote]

    reminds me of this and this and this

  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment="298736"]
    No — just a reflection:
    http://www.gopherspo...

    Maker’s marks are not allowed on college hoops jerseys.[/quote]
    Ah, much easier to see with the bigger photo. I thought maybe there was some kind of loophole with it being an exhibition game or something.

    Still looks a bit like a swoosh, though.

  • Mark in Shiga | November 7, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    Not a big fan of the dull, lifeless gray road Nats jersey. I know the team’s in the nation’s capital, and their predecessor also had red, white, and blue, but these days it seems like half the league has red as its main color and I liked the primarily-navy-blue aspect of the old road outfits. The loss of the distinctive gold trim makes it that much more “blah”.

    Take away the garish blue alternate and they’re Cincinnati Lite. The Diamondbacks did the same thing, becoming a clone of the Astros — it’s like there are two fewer teams in the league now.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | November 7, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    I really liked the Nationals road and alternate uniforms..I thought they looked sharp. But now…I shake my head in disappointment.

  • Justin in AR | November 7, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment="298736"][quote comment="298733"][quote comment="298725"]I attended the U of Minnesota’s exhibition basketball game vs. D-II Northern State University last night and got my first look at their new uniforms. The most distinctive element is the maroon piping on the jersey and shorts. Rather than starting at the armpit and running straight down the side, it starts at about the shoulder blades and runs straight down the sides of the player’s back. On the shorts, the stripe swings toward the front ending up in front of the “M” logo centered on the side of the short. This page has the best photo I could find of it.

    http://www.gopherspo...

    The biggest problem is the stripes on the jerseys rarely line up with the stripes on the shorts, and it seems more noticable when that intersection is located on the player’s back rather than his sides.

    Another unique aspect is when the stripe meets the arm holes, it turns gold, so there is a gold border around the arm, as you can see in this picture.

    http://www.gopherspo...

    The gold on the stripe appears to be shinier than the gold in the rest of the jersey so it stands out in person – basically a bright yellow strip on the shoulders.

    There was also some RNOB action with Ralph Sampson III, although I don’t have a pic. And Northern State has a unique design on the front of the jersey. It says “WOLVES” in large letters, and underneath that it says “Northern State” in much smaller letters, which you can see in this gallery:

    http://nsuwolvesathl...
    Is that a teeny-tiny swoosh I see above the M on the collar?[/quote]

    No — just a reflection:
    http://www.gopherspo...

    Maker’s marks are not allowed on college hoops jerseys.[/quote]

    What about on their shorts?
    http://www.arkansasr...

  • Justin in AR | November 7, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    Son of a… Maybe this link will work.
    http://www.arkansasr...

  • Ricko | November 7, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment="298713"][quote comment="298707"][quote comment="298706"]Never mind Oregon State in black, dig the vertical on that D-lineman![/quote]

    Bill Yearby in the Rose Bowl. Michigan crushed the Ducks that year. Maybe the superstition of not wearing “unlucky” colors after a tough loss goes back to 1965 too![/quote]

    ducks or beavers?[/quote]

    Beavers in all-black goes even farther back, to ’60 or so, to the Terry Baker era (they wore black pants with a single orange stripe during his entire time there). Not sure about before that. Be interesting to see how far back it DOES go. During the Paul Brothers era (the QB shown in the photo) they switched to white pants and black helmets. I have a photo of him in that uni, too…somewhere.

    Oregon State also was one of the first schools to go the Riddell cleats with the white arch support in addition to the around-the-heel Snug-Ties.

    Baker in all-black:
    http://heismanheros....
    Road uni, but show the shoes I mentioned.
    http://www.oregonsta...

    Baker also changed numbers during his stay. He started as a single-wing tailback (really) wearing #47. When they switched to the T-formation and he became a quarterback, he wore #11. Have a game action photo of him wearing 47 somewhere, too.

    Snowing here in Twin Cities, btw. And Vikings-Packers this weekend, too. Oh, the apprehension, anticipation and ever-present angst of “Packer Week”.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | November 7, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    Oops, try this…

    http://images.google...

  • Ricko | November 7, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    Well, shoot…

    http://heismanheros....

  • Ricko | November 7, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    One more try…

    http://alumni.oregon...

  • gppittjk | November 7, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    ok a couple things. first, what did you want the nats to do with the red jerseys if you think they look too much like the reds’ alts? leave out the trim? ok now its just a blank red jersey with a logo slapped on. that would get complaints here too. make it blue trim? well then the trim doesnt match either logo, again drawing complaints. and we’ve already seen what happens here when they put gold in anything…
    second, there is always talk about teams needing to “go back to x jersey or logo” rather than needing to “make a change.” is it really that bad for teams to try new things, even if it is a marketing ploy? gotta remember, sports is an industry. its not some hallowed ground untouched by business. why go back to something on a full-time basis when chances are you can sell products with that logo and sell a boatload of products with a new logo? it just makes more sense to do it that way (granted im a bit of a hypocrite on this cuz i wish my school would go back to a certain script logo it left in the early nineties).
    i know everyone is entitled to their opinion and i respect that wholeheartedly, but when was the last time something new got brought up here that didnt look like it was from the 1950s and was widely accepted?

  • MPowers1634 | November 7, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment="298695"]Does anyone else know anything about this Flutie Statue unveiling at BC? I heard about it on Mike and Mike. Like to see what he’s wearing. Think the swoosh will appear?[/quote]

    Probably not since they are now a Reebok school!

  • Mike | November 7, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    Anyone have any idea if the Mets are altering their unis in any way? How about ditching the black?

  • Minnesota Chad | November 7, 2008 at 11:10 am |
  • MPowers1634 | November 7, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment="298738"][quote comment="298736"]
    No — just a reflection:
    http://www.gopherspo...

    Maker’s marks are not allowed on college hoops jerseys.[/quote]
    Ah, much easier to see with the bigger photo. I thought maybe there was some kind of loophole with it being an exhibition game or something.

    Still looks a bit like a swoosh, though.[/quote]

    NCAA regulations disallow maufacturers’ logos on the jersey however a 1 5/8 or 1.625″, for some people, is allowed on the shorts!

  • scott | November 7, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment="298740"]I really liked the Nationals road and alternate uniforms..I thought they looked sharp. But now…I shake my head in disappointment.[/quote]

    The road uniform from 2005 to 2008 was distinctive. Now it’s just ordinary.

  • MPowers1634 | November 7, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment="298724"][quote comment="298714"]The Nike suit is being worn by former Trojan Anthony Davis…here’s a front view:

    http://www.latimes.c...

    What a degenerate POS[/quote]

    That really is sad…but on a uni-note…check out the USC Black alt#4, to the back left of AD!

    http://www.latimes.c...

  • Roger Faso | November 7, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    I, for one, think that cursive script is overused in baseball and would like to see old english font used more often.

    When did cursive script appear on the scene, in baseball? The 50’s?

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | November 7, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment="298724"][quote comment="298714"]The Nike suit is being worn by former Trojan Anthony Davis…here’s a front view:

    http://www.latimes.c...

    What a degenerate POS[/quote]

    No shit! What an ass… and WHY would he run around with Nike logos??? Is he sponsored? Or just trying to look important? Loser with a capital L!

  • ScottyJ in WV | November 7, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment="298731"][quote comment="298698"]I don’t know about you guys, but im kinda mad a sub-par team (the Nationals) are stealing jerseys from my own favorite sub-par team (the Reds)…[/quote]
    They have our old GM, a good deal of our old players, and some of their coaches used to play for us (Lenny Harris, I believe) … Leather Pants wants DC to be Cincinnati east … he ruined 1 team and is going for another[/quote]

    Ol’ Leatherpants…….everytime I hear that it makes me smile! That guy…wotta douche.

  • Mark in Shiga | November 7, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment="298747"]ok a couple things. first, what did you want the nats to do with the red jerseys if you think they look too much like the reds’ alts? leave out the trim? ok now its just a blank red jersey with a logo slapped on. that would get complaints here too. make it blue trim? well then the trim doesnt match either logo, again drawing complaints. and we’ve already seen what happens here when they put gold in anything…[/quote]

    Well, there are lots of things they could have done differently so that they wouldn’t look almost indistinguishable from another team in the same league. How about red with white sleeves? How about off-white with dark blue sleeves? (Contrasting sleeve colors is something you don’t see enough of these days.)

    And in an era where colored socks are usually hidden, gray just looks boring. That dull gray road shirt would look a little more tolerable if the players pulled their pant legs up and had multi-striped socks.

    I myself like the gold — it’s distinctive without actually looking garish. I wish they’d kept it.

  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment="298747"]is it really that bad for teams to try new things, even if it is a marketing ploy? [/quote]
    That’s kinda the point, isn’t it? They aren’t trying anything new. It’s just a clone of the Reds’ alt. If they’re going to re-do the red alt, they should at least make it distinctive. The previous incarnation had that much going for it.

  • Shane | November 7, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    Paul, no notice of the Bruins’ Blake Wheeler switching from #42 to 26 and scoring a hat trick last night?

  • Cosmo | November 7, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    RE: the Dick “Wampum” Allen picture… If that is a picture of him in an A’s uni (and he never played for The Royals), and Baez is with the Mariners, why do they appear to be playing at (what was at the time) Royals stadium? I’m making an assumption considering the Royals logo behind them. Is there something else going on there that I’m not aware of?

  • gppittjk | November 7, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment="298757"][quote comment="298747"]ok a couple things. first, what did you want the nats to do with the red jerseys if you think they look too much like the reds’ alts? leave out the trim? ok now its just a blank red jersey with a logo slapped on. that would get complaints here too. make it blue trim? well then the trim doesnt match either logo, again drawing complaints. and we’ve already seen what happens here when they put gold in anything…[/quote]

    Well, there are lots of things they could have done differently so that they wouldn’t look almost indistinguishable from another team in the same league. How about red with white sleeves? How about off-white with dark blue sleeves? (Contrasting sleeve colors is something you don’t see enough of these days.)

    And in an era where colored socks are usually hidden, gray just looks boring. That dull gray road shirt would look a little more tolerable if the players pulled their pant legs up and had multi-striped socks.

    I myself like the gold — it’s distinctive without actually looking garish. I wish they’d kept it.[/quote]

    i agree actually. see, thats the kind of thinking that needs to go on in uniform design. tho i think as a whole that idea wouldve been rejected here had it been tried. but i agree, that would look good.

  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment="298760"]RE: the Dick “Wampum” Allen picture… If that is a picture of him in an A’s uni (and he never played for The Royals), and Baez is with the Mariners, why do they appear to be playing at (what was at the time) Royals stadium? I’m making an assumption considering the Royals logo behind them. Is there something else going on there that I’m not aware of?[/quote]
    In the ’70s & ’80s, several parks had the logos of the leagues’ other teams on the outfield fences.

  • gppittjk | November 7, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment="298758"][quote comment="298747"]is it really that bad for teams to try new things, even if it is a marketing ploy? [/quote]
    That’s kinda the point, isn’t it? They aren’t trying anything new. It’s just a clone of the Reds’ alt. If they’re going to re-do the red alt, they should at least make it distinctive. The previous incarnation had that much going for it.[/quote]

    actually that was a completely different complaint than my first one. sorry about the confusion. i shouldve made that more clear, my bad.

  • fluxcap | November 7, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment="298750"]top 10 make me wanna ralph uniforms…

    (pro teams only… sorry oregon)
    (also, omitting Padres Cammo unis)

    http://www.philadelp...

    http://upload.wikime...

    http://www.nba.com/m...

    http://bp0.blogger.c...

    http://cache.thephoe...

    http://ibbab.free.fr...

    http://www.inthecrea...

    http://www.nba.com/m...

    http://farm1.static....

    http://www.espn.go.c...
    actually… I kinda like this one[/quote]

    I have to put this up there as well, i love the jersey, it just didn’t work well on the field, especially with the red pants but those stirrups sure are sweet!

  • gppittjk | November 7, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment="298726"]I am absolutely torn on what to think….

    Pittsburgh penguins alternate jerseys.. they have sportd the light blue in the past and will again this year.. it’s a really nice jersey and looks good on the ice..

    but…
    one of my favorite anomalies in all of sports is the all professional teams from pittsburgh wear black and yellow.. now the black and yellow are still in the jersey, but not he prodominant color..

    i just don’t know what to think.. I wish the penguins jerseys were were more ugly, that way I could give a more whole hearted complaint..

    on a related note:: next time i see the steelers in those ugly yellow jerseys with the ugly helmets I’m probably gonna ralph.[/quote]

    theres more “pittsburgh gold” in that blue jersey than there is in what they wear now….

  • Cy | November 7, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    Strangely, Milledge’s jersey had the non-beveled numbers, but the powerpoint shows that the jersey front DOES have beveled numbers.

    Also, it looks like the Nats got halfway through an identity refresh then got bored and quit. Still two very distinct styles (bevel vs. curly) that now are even more in conflict.

    Personally, much though I love Mr. Radom’s designs in general, I’d love to see them go all-curly no-bevel.

  • zman | November 7, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    So I was playing my daily morning game of NBA live 09 this morning, playing my franchise, when I stumbled across something very interesting. I was playing against the Warriors at home and obviously scroll through all the jerseys and choose the best ones for each team before the game… Interestingly enough, I stumbled upon the Warriors “second home” jersey which was the most hideous jersey I had ever seen.

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

    http://farm4.static....

    After a little bit of research I found a gallery of quite possibly the ugliest jersey creations of all time. Scroll through them, I bet you cant find one nice one…

    http://www.easports....

    Basically, what I discovered, was that this warriors jersey was a contest winner and if your jersey wins for best, I mean ugliest, design, it gets put in the game

  • Chris Majors | November 7, 2008 at 12:07 pm |

    An update for any interested in the Auburn vs. UT-Martin game, in which two teams with functionally identical uniforms will face off: Auburn will allow UT-Martin to wear orange jerseys, while Auburn will wear white at home. Auburn wore their white jerseys at home last year vs. Vanderbilt as a nod to the ’57 national championship team.

    Interesting info in the link about the 3 times back in the 70’s that Auburn wore orange home jerseys.

    http://blog.al.com/g...

  • KT | November 7, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    Checking in from Bloomington, Indiana. (Indiana/Northwestern men’s soccer on Big Ten Network tonight, 6:30pm ET, check your local listings.) (BTW, college soccer unis aren’t usually much to write home about and Indiana’s are as plain as they get.)

    Too bad it’s Friday, Paul will likely have to wait until Monday to delve into the Broncos’ receiver with the black-and-white glove thing.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 12:33 pm |
  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment="298769"]Checking in from Bloomington, Indiana. (Indiana/Northwestern men’s soccer on Big Ten Network tonight, 6:30pm ET, check your local listings.) (BTW, college soccer unis aren’t usually much to write home about and Indiana’s are as plain as they get.)

    Too bad it’s Friday, Paul will likely have to wait until Monday to delve into the Broncos’ receiver with the black-and-white glove thing.[/quote]

    Unless our “weekend host” tackles it first. Perhaps the most anticipated debut since, well,….accepting suggestions.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment="298771"][quote comment="298769"]Checking in from Bloomington, Indiana. (Indiana/Northwestern men’s soccer on Big Ten Network tonight, 6:30pm ET, check your local listings.) (BTW, college soccer unis aren’t usually much to write home about and Indiana’s are as plain as they get.)

    Too bad it’s Friday, Paul will likely have to wait until Monday to delve into the Broncos’ receiver with the black-and-white glove thing.[/quote]

    Unless our “weekend host” tackles it first. Perhaps the most anticipated debut since, well,….accepting suggestions.[/quote]

    bry is still on weekend duty till next weekend…

    (but i’ll be accepting suggestions for weekend commentary as soon as paul gives me a tan box)

  • johnny | November 7, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    I really like the Nats new away uni’s, because the reference both the Senators and the Expos. The issue now is the home whites – how can they keep the block NATIONALS that doesn’t go with the pretzel W or the away script? I would make the home whites the reverse of the alternate red – plain white with a red pretzel W over the left breast. Their W is iconic, they need to feature it even more. Besides, it would de-emphasize the “Nationals” name, which is still a bit weak.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote]what did you want the nats to do with the red jerseys if you think they look too much like the reds’ alts?[/quote]

    i donno…maybe keep them white or gray?

    are they in a contest to see which NL east team has the most caps and alternates? christ, the mets are bad enough with 5 different unis…braves now have 4 different tops…marlins at least 3…

    gotta say, i DO love the phillies creamy daytime homes tho…just wish they’d wear the red caps with those

  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment="298769"]Checking in from Bloomington, Indiana. (Indiana/Northwestern men’s soccer on Big Ten Network tonight, 6:30pm ET, check your local listings.) (BTW, college soccer unis aren’t usually much to write home about and Indiana’s are as plain as they get.)[/quote]
    That’s definitely true with the white ones, but the crimson are actually fairly obnoxious.

  • dgc | November 7, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment="298747"]ok a couple things. first, what did you want the nats to do with the red jerseys if you think they look too much like the reds’ alts?[/quote]

    Could always do some cross-marketing with the Caps and have a jersey with the weagle. IIRC Mark Lerner is a Caps’ minority owner.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment="298770"]”Very nice!”[/quote]

    so…he’s the guy who invented jorts?

  • MPowers1634 | November 7, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment="298755"][quote comment="298724"][quote comment="298714"]The Nike suit is being worn by former Trojan Anthony Davis…here’s a front view:

    http://www.latimes.c...

    What a degenerate POS[/quote]

    No shit! What an ass… and WHY would he run around with Nike logos??? Is he sponsored? Or just trying to look important? Loser with a capital L![/quote]

    Even worse…check out the USC Black Alt in the background!

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment="298772"][quote comment="298771"][quote comment="298769"]Checking in from Bloomington, Indiana. (Indiana/Northwestern men’s soccer on Big Ten Network tonight, 6:30pm ET, check your local listings.) (BTW, college soccer unis aren’t usually much to write home about and Indiana’s are as plain as they get.)

    Too bad it’s Friday, Paul will likely have to wait until Monday to delve into the Broncos’ receiver with the black-and-white glove thing.[/quote]

    Unless our “weekend host” tackles it first. Perhaps the most anticipated debut since, well,….accepting suggestions.[/quote]

    bry is still on weekend duty till next weekend…

    (but i’ll be accepting suggestions for weekend commentary as soon as paul gives me a tan box)[/quote]

    I was more referring to one of sport’s most overworked clichés: “Most anticipated debut since… (insert an over-hyped, probably over paid player, coach, stadium, etc.)” Difference is, this may live up to the hype ;-) Don’t forget to get Bryan’s bulls eye when he’s finished, pal!

  • Bryan Redemske | November 7, 2008 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment="298779"]Don’t forget to get Bryan’s bulls eye when he’s finished, pal![/quote]

    I’ll have a new one made for him — I’m keeping mine in case I’m needed for fill-in duty sometime. High school football playoffs are right around the corner.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment="298777"][quote comment="298770"]”Very nice!”[/quote]

    so…he’s the guy who invented jorts?[/quote]

    You know, I thought of him too. Looks more him than S.B.C., but he (I still don’t know his name) doesn’t have a well known “catch phrase” to attach to his picture.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment="298780"][quote comment="298779"]Don’t forget to get Bryan’s bulls eye when he’s finished, pal![/quote]

    I’ll have a new one made for him — I’m keeping mine in case I’m needed for fill-in duty sometime. High school football playoffs are right around the corner.[/quote]

    Maybe Phil can get one of those Oregon baseball jerseys and wear it backwards.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment="298781"][quote comment="298777"][quote comment="298770"]”Very nice!”[/quote]

    so…he’s the guy who invented jorts?[/quote]

    You know, I thought of him too. Looks more him than S.B.C., but he (I still don’t know his name) doesn’t have a well known “catch phrase” to attach to his picture.[/quote]

    SBC, aka borat, can look like anybody, whereas jason lee…well…he’s got that one look even when he goes sans stache

    (or even fully degenerate)

  • Justin in AR | November 7, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment="298770"]”Very nice!”[/quote]

    Bears a striking resemblence to this

  • Jon | November 7, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    Did anyone grab what Brady Quinn had written on the inside of his armband last night, i missed getting a screen grab.

  • Justin in AR | November 7, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    forgot the link.

    http://forumimages.f...

  • Johnny O | November 7, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    *Rant start*

    I would love to know why most people got all over the Brewers this past season for un-tucking their jersey after a victory, showing team unity because of Cameron’s father tribute, and called their act “sloppy” and “inappropriate”…. but no one makes any mention of Brandon Roy of the Trail Blazers practically taking his jersey off after his winning 3-pointer yesterday versus the Rockets, when we all know it was a “look at me” moment:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    *Rant over*

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment="298787"]*Rant start*

    I would love to know why most people got all over the Brewers this past season for un-tucking their jersey after a victory, showing team unity because of Cameron’s father tribute, and called their act “sloppy” and “inappropriate”…. but no one makes any mention of Brandon Roy of the Trail Blazers practically taking his jersey off after his winning 3-pointer yesterday versus the Rockets, when we all know it was a “look at me” moment:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    *Rant over*[/quote]

    because it’s basketball, johnny

    /no one gives a shit, since the whole league is “look at me”

  • Johnny O | November 7, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment="298788"][quote comment="298787"]*Rant start*

    I would love to know why most people got all over the Brewers this past season for un-tucking their jersey after a victory, showing team unity because of Cameron’s father tribute, and called their act “sloppy” and “inappropriate”…. but no one makes any mention of Brandon Roy of the Trail Blazers practically taking his jersey off after his winning 3-pointer yesterday versus the Rockets, when we all know it was a “look at me” moment:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    *Rant over*[/quote]

    because it’s basketball, johnny

    /no one gives a shit, since the whole league is “look at me”[/quote]

    Good call, Phil. I sometimes forget Milwaukee has a team. Turns out they got uniforms and everything. It’s really great!

  • Paul Lukas | November 7, 2008 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment="298788"][quote comment="298787"]*Rant start*

    I would love to know why most people got all over the Brewers this past season for un-tucking their jersey after a victory, showing team unity because of Cameron’s father tribute, and called their act “sloppy” and “inappropriate”…. but no one makes any mention of Brandon Roy of the Trail Blazers practically taking his jersey off after his winning 3-pointer yesterday versus the Rockets, when we all know it was a “look at me” moment:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    *Rant over*[/quote]

    because it’s basketball, johnny

    /no one gives a shit, since the whole league is “look at me”[/quote]

    Nicely put. Although I’ll happily go on record as saying it’s totally bogus on the field OR on the court.

    I’m enjoying the Cameron-to-Yankees trade rumors, if only because there’s no way Cammy would get away with that shit in da Bronx (much less get everyone else on the team to go along with it).

  • chance | November 7, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment="298773"]I really like the Nats new away uni’s, because the reference both the Senators and the Expos.[/quote]

    Still don’t think that these really “reference” the Expos. Other than the fact that the Expos used a script wordmark in their final few years, but so did the Senators.

    Think it’s much more likely that they’re referencing the Senators, frankly.

  • CMP | November 7, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    Not sure I’ve seen this before, in the Ticker or elsewhere. Ball State Head Coach Brady Hoke’s playcalling wristband is Nike-branded. This is a the best pic I could find (trust me, it’s a swoosh). Several other coaches on the sideline had the same ones. Noticed it while flipping across the game a couple of nights ago, but I don’t know how to make screen captures. If anyone can find a better image, great.

    http://cache.daylife...

  • Robert in Dallas | November 7, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment="298787"]*Rant start*

    I would love to know why most people got all over the Brewers this past season for un-tucking their jersey after a victory, showing team unity because of Cameron’s father tribute, and called their act “sloppy” and “inappropriate”…. but no one makes any mention of Brandon Roy of the Trail Blazers practically taking his jersey off after his winning 3-pointer yesterday versus the Rockets, when we all know it was a “look at me” moment:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    *Rant over*[/quote]

    Johnny, I would be as critical of Brandon Roy as I am of the Brew Crew for this behavior, except that I pay very little attention to the NBA and was not aware of this behavior. Now that you have brought him to light, mark me down as an official critic.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment="298793"][quote comment="298787"]*Rant start*

    I would love to know why most people got all over the Brewers this past season for un-tucking their jersey after a victory, showing team unity because of Cameron’s father tribute, and called their act “sloppy” and “inappropriate”…. but no one makes any mention of Brandon Roy of the Trail Blazers practically taking his jersey off after his winning 3-pointer yesterday versus the Rockets, when we all know it was a “look at me” moment:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    *Rant over*[/quote]

    Johnny, I would be as critical of Brandon Roy as I am of the Brew Crew for this behavior, except that I pay very little attention to the NBA and was not aware of this behavior. Now that you have brought him to light, mark me down as an official critic.[/quote]

    I think someone needs to clip thier fingernails.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment="298794"][quote comment="298793"][quote comment="298787"]*Rant start*

    I would love to know why most people got all over the Brewers this past season for un-tucking their jersey after a victory, showing team unity because of Cameron’s father tribute, and called their act “sloppy” and “inappropriate”…. but no one makes any mention of Brandon Roy of the Trail Blazers practically taking his jersey off after his winning 3-pointer yesterday versus the Rockets, when we all know it was a “look at me” moment:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    *Rant over*[/quote]

    Johnny, I would be as critical of Brandon Roy as I am of the Brew Crew for this behavior, except that I pay very little attention to the NBA and was not aware of this behavior. Now that you have brought him to light, mark me down as an official critic.[/quote]

    I think someone needs to clip thier fingernails.[/quote]

    In case you are not getting what I’m getting at, looks like he gave himself a nice scratch while being an idiot.

  • Bigtinypig | November 7, 2008 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment="298732"][quote comment="298695"]Does anyone else know anything about this Flutie Statue unveiling at BC? I heard about it on Mike and Mike. Like to see what he’s wearing. Think the swoosh will appear?[/quote]

    Funny… BC is a reebok school, though.[/quote]

    do we have to go through the whole sarcasm thing again? or do i need to post a link to the Ernie Davis statue article?

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment="298796"][quote comment="298732"][quote comment="298695"]Does anyone else know anything about this Flutie Statue unveiling at BC? I heard about it on Mike and Mike. Like to see what he’s wearing. Think the swoosh will appear?[/quote]

    Funny… BC is a reebok school, though.[/quote]

    do we have to go through the whole sarcasm thing again? or do i need to post a link to the Ernie Davis statue article?[/quote]

    what’s even funnier is that the rbk thing was posted not once, but twice

  • Michael Emody | November 7, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    Bitch. Bitch. Bitch. I can’t believe I’m reading so many negative comments about the Nat’s new road jersey. Everything about it says “baseball.” What’s the problem?
    Sure, the two alts suck. But the script “Washington”, three color sleeve and collar piping – SO much better than the “tall-short-tall” block lettering rendered in like, five colors(?), of the old road jersey. Fix the home jersey to match the new road uni’s, and stop even trying to come up with alt’s – and the Nat’s could be next year’s Rays.

  • Bigtinypig | November 7, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment="298797"][quote comment="298796"][quote comment="298732"][quote comment="298695"]Does anyone else know anything about this Flutie Statue unveiling at BC? I heard about it on Mike and Mike. Like to see what he’s wearing. Think the swoosh will appear?[/quote]

    Funny… BC is a reebok school, though.[/quote]

    do we have to go through the whole sarcasm thing again? or do i need to post a link to the Ernie Davis statue article?[/quote]

    what’s even funnier is that the rbk thing was posted not once, but twice[/quote]

    haha yea i noticed that when i got about halfway through the comments. i figured saying it once would be enough.. oh well.

  • Bigtinypig | November 7, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    by the way, i dont know if this has been posted here before but i came across this picture on google images when looking for a picture of the eagles all green look, of which i couldnt find so if anyone could help me out..

  • MetsFan AZ | November 7, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    so any idea what the end zone celebration was going to be last night? i heard something about a black and white glove but…

  • Bigtinypig | November 7, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment="298798"]Bitch. Bitch. Bitch. I can’t believe I’m reading so many negative comments about the Nat’s new road jersey. Everything about it says “baseball.” What’s the problem?
    Sure, the two alts suck. But the script “Washington”, three color sleeve and collar piping – SO much better than the “tall-short-tall” block lettering rendered in like, five colors(?), of the old road jersey. Fix the home jersey to match the new road uni’s, and stop even trying to come up with alt’s – and the Nat’s could be next year’s Rays.[/quote]
    Sure, the front of the jersey “says ‘baseball'” but unfortunately, the back of the jersey still says “XFL.”

    If they’d do something about those beveled numbers, they’d have a very solid vanilla (that’s a compliment) uniform, but they’re trying to have it both ways. They need to pick a lane.

  • Nick Maibroda | November 7, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    Out of curiosity, did anyone notice the nice fold-out in this week’s Sport Illustrated of all the college football players from various eras. I doesn’t seem like anyone has commented on it. My two cents: I was very impressed at accuracy of the uniforms, especially enjoyed the detail on some of the earliest players. I just love those heavy material pants, some with what looks like to be wooden inserts. Quite the contrast from Deion Sanders and his jewelery…

  • Cosmo | November 7, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment="298762"][quote comment="298760"]RE: the Dick “Wampum” Allen picture… If that is a picture of him in an A’s uni (and he never played for The Royals), and Baez is with the Mariners, why do they appear to be playing at (what was at the time) Royals stadium? I’m making an assumption considering the Royals logo behind them. Is there something else going on there that I’m not aware of?[/quote]
    In the ’70s & ’80s, several parks had the logos of the leagues’ other teams on the outfield fences.[/quote]
    Ahhh… I guess I’m too young to remember that… Thanks.

  • Mark K | November 7, 2008 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment="298804"]Out of curiosity, did anyone notice the nice fold-out in this week’s Sport Illustrated of all the college football players from various eras. I doesn’t seem like anyone has commented on it. My two cents: I was very impressed at accuracy of the uniforms, especially enjoyed the detail on some of the earliest players. I just love those heavy material pants, some with what looks like to be wooden inserts. Quite the contrast from Deion Sanders and his jewelery…[/quote]

    I saw that. Great illustration. I’m sure Ricko is compiling his list of “mistakes”.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment="298798"]and the Nat’s could be next year’s Rays.[/quote]

    Just as soon as they find someone to take the likes of a guy such as Elijah Dukes (which is what the Rays did). Only problem is there are too many headcases on that club to relocate all of them. No, Mr. Bowden made his bed and Nats fans are going to have to sleep in it.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment="298807"][quote comment="298798"]and the Nat’s could be next year’s Rays.[/quote]

    Just as soon as they find someone to take the likes of a guy such as Elijah Dukes (which is what the Rays did). Only problem is there are too many headcases on that club to relocate all of them. No, Mr. Bowden made his bed and Nats fans are going to have to sleep in it.[/quote]

    Actually someone agrees: http://sports.yahoo....

  • Ricko | November 7, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment="298806"][quote comment="298804"]Out of curiosity, did anyone notice the nice fold-out in this week’s Sport Illustrated of all the college football players from various eras. I doesn’t seem like anyone has commented on it. My two cents: I was very impressed at accuracy of the uniforms, especially enjoyed the detail on some of the earliest players. I just love those heavy material pants, some with what looks like to be wooden inserts. Quite the contrast from Deion Sanders and his jewelery…[/quote]

    I saw that. Great illustration. I’m sure Ricko is compiling his list of “mistakes”.[/quote]

    Actually, I haven’t seen it yet, but I’ll pick up an SI on the way home.

    And, hey, I don’t go LOOKING for mistakes. I’m not THAT much of curmudgeon. I first love seeing all the old unis, but it’s normal to notice something that’s off. Like noticing a typo (plenty of them in my posts). Isn’t really passing judgment, just noticing.

    I told Paul early-on, I’d never mean such things as criticism, just trying to add to the database. I’ve had quite a few many things VERY wrong and been straightened out since I started coming to Uni Watch. Always good to learn stuff I missed.

    But I AM old, and you guys really don’t have to stop giving me grief about it. Shoot, was thinking just this a.m. that when I started following sports (and unis) the NBA consisted of New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Syracuse, Rochester, Fort Wayne, Minneapolis and St. Louis. Was at least two years before I finally figured out, for sure, the uni colors of the Rochester Royals (cuz never got a chance to see them when they came to town to play the Lakers).

    Now, where’s my walker? Gotta get me that there new Sports Illy-strated.

  • Tim | November 7, 2008 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment="298800"]by the way, i dont know if this has been posted here before but i came across this picture on google images when looking for a picture of the eagles all green look, of which i couldnt find so if anyone could help me out..[/quote]

    Ask and ye shall receive….

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

  • Duckstyle | November 7, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment="298810"][quote comment="298800"]by the way, i dont know if this has been posted here before but i came across this picture on google images when looking for a picture of the eagles all green look, of which i couldnt find so if anyone could help me out..[/quote]

    Ask and ye shall receive….

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    I wish people would learn(read: agree with me) that the monochrome look works just fine, but only when paired with white, striped socks. Avoid the capri pants look at all costs, it doesn’t good on anyone, ever, and that includes when women wear them. It’s makes legs look stumpy and weird, not exactly the look an athlete or a woman would want to convey.

  • Mark K | November 7, 2008 at 5:03 pm |

    I tried to find that SI illustration online but wasn’t successful.

  • Mark K | November 7, 2008 at 5:14 pm |

    Regarding logos on outfield walls, a lot of teams definitely definitely did that. Montreal, St Louis, Three Rivers, Kingdome and Toronto on the walls, the Murph and Vet had theirs on the wall behind the outfield wall. Toronto had one AL division in right field and the other in left (there were only east and west back then). The logos were arranged based on the current standings. I’m not sure how many did that.

    I’m sure there were others.

  • Ricko | November 7, 2008 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment="298811"][quote comment="298810"][quote comment="298800"]by the way, i dont know if this has been posted here before but i came across this picture on google images when looking for a picture of the eagles all green look, of which i couldnt find so if anyone could help me out..[/quote]

    Ask and ye shall receive….

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    I wish people would learn(read: agree with me) that the monochrome look works just fine, but only when paired with white, striped socks. Avoid the capri pants look at all costs, it doesn’t good on anyone, ever, and that includes when women wear them. It’s makes legs look stumpy and weird, not exactly the look an athlete or a woman would want to convey.[/quote]

    Exactly. When high socks are involved, football unis seem to work better when there’s a color change at the knee.

    Although, just because I was around when it was “cool” (and even before when it was what some teams wore; Bears, for example) I still kinda like white with white high socks. Again, that’s just me.

  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment="298811"]
    I wish people would learn(read: agree with me) that the monochrome look works just fine, but only when paired with white, striped socks.[/quote]
    Wish not granted. I beg to differ:
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    http://cache2.asset-...

    http://cache3.asset-...

  • Ricko | November 7, 2008 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment="298815"][quote comment="298811"]
    I wish people would learn(read: agree with me) that the monochrome look works just fine, but only when paired with white, striped socks.[/quote]
    Wish not granted. I beg to differ:
    http://cache2.asset-...

    http://cache2.asset-...

    http://cache3.asset-...

    Wait a sec, I gotta amend what I said. SOME monochrome is helped but white knee socks. My thought was aimed more at “with dark pants”.

  • Duckstyle | November 7, 2008 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment="298815"][quote comment="298811"]
    I wish people would learn(read: agree with me) that the monochrome look works just fine, but only when paired with white, striped socks.[/quote]
    Wish not granted. I beg to differ:
    http://cache2.asset-...

    http://cache2.asset-...

    http://cache3.asset-...

    Weeell, of course there are exceptions to every rule. And it was more of a guideline than a rule. You catch my drift. I like the monochrome look more on teams that have some kind of extra contrast, whether it be a contrasting helmet or sleeves. But you must admit, the pics would look a alot worse had the bears worn their other socks with the dark top stripes.

  • Duckstyle | November 7, 2008 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment="298816"][quote comment="298815"][quote comment="298811"]
    I wish people would learn(read: agree with me) that the monochrome look works just fine, but only when paired with white, striped socks.[/quote]
    Wish not granted. I beg to differ:
    http://cache2.asset-...

    http://cache2.asset-...

    http://cache3.asset-...

    Wait a sec, I gotta amend what I said. SOME monochrome is helped but white knee socks. My thought was aimed more at “with dark pants”.[/quote]

    Ok ok, lets just say that 2 things are good when it comes to football unis, contrast, and striped socks and stop there.

  • Michael Emody | November 7, 2008 at 5:29 pm |

    JTH – Yeah, I didn’t get a good look at the backs. You’re right. If they simplified the font – maybe use something classic like the “Red Sox” font – I’d say they’d look pretty cool.

  • Bigtinypig | November 7, 2008 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment="298810"][quote comment="298800"]by the way, i dont know if this has been posted here before but i came across this picture on google images when looking for a picture of the eagles all green look, of which i couldnt find so if anyone could help me out..[/quote]

    Ask and ye shall receive….

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Hahah I didnt mean to bring up the whole monochrome discussion. Thanks for the pics.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment="298820"][quote comment="298810"][quote comment="298800"]by the way, i dont know if this has been posted here before but i came across this picture on google images when looking for a picture of the eagles all green look, of which i couldnt find so if anyone could help me out..[/quote]

    Ask and ye shall receive….

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Hahah I didnt mean to bring up the whole monochrome discussion. Thanks for the pics.[/quote]

    Funny how there is picture of Champ Bailey as a ‘Skin. That means Clinton Portis was still in Denver and the uniforms were still in proper order.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 7, 2008 at 6:15 pm |

    I’ve managed to spend an entire day lurking… I’m talented!

    The Nationals have all the beginnings of a f**king tragedy, uniformically.

  • Brian | November 7, 2008 at 6:29 pm |

    I love those baby-blue Penguins jerseys.
    I’ll absolutely be picking up a Crosby one ASAP.

  • Marc | November 7, 2008 at 7:09 pm |

    I’m probably the least patriotic person I know…it’s not that I hate this country, I don’t. I just am not the type of person that feels the need to show off my love for it.

    With that being said, I found it kind of ironic, but I love the blue alt. I just like how different it is. Is it silly? Probably. But it’s something that stands out and I just think it looks sharp.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 7:12 pm |

    [quote]Funny how there is picture of Champ Bailey as a ‘Skin. That means Clinton Portis was still in Denver and the uniforms were still in proper order.[/quote]

    and, the skins would have looked sooooo much better if they had just worn these socks on monday night

  • Tim | November 7, 2008 at 7:26 pm |

    As far as I know they’ve only done this once, October 27, 2002. Interesting look:

    http://i.cdn.turner....

  • Ricko | November 7, 2008 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment="298827"]As far as I know they’ve only done this once, October 27, 2002. Interesting look:

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Was gonna ask about that combo.

    And I don’t recall: Have the Patriots worn their white jerseys with silver pants…since they changed from royal to navy, that is?

  • The Hemogoblin | November 7, 2008 at 8:28 pm |

    [quote comment="298826"][quote]Funny how there is picture of Champ Bailey as a ‘Skin. That means Clinton Portis was still in Denver and the uniforms were still in proper order.[/quote]

    and, the skins would have looked sooooo much better if they had just worn these socks on monday night[/quote]

    Or had Bruce Smith and Champ Bailey.

  • Tim | November 7, 2008 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment="298828"][quote comment="298827"]As far as I know they’ve only done this once, October 27, 2002. Interesting look:

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Was gonna ask about that combo.

    And I don’t recall: Have the Patriots worn their white jerseys with silver pants…since they changed from royal to navy, that is?[/quote]

    Since 2000 (when they switched to the navy uniforms), they’ve only worn the white tops with navy pants, and the silver tops with navy pants. Aside from the one game in 2002 when they went monochromatic, and the Thanksgiving game where they wore the red throwbacks, I don’t think they’ve ever deviated from the navy/silver and white/navy. And they’ve ALWAYS worn the striped socks with the navy pants.

  • Tim | November 7, 2008 at 8:35 pm |

    [quote comment="298826"][quote]Funny how there is picture of Champ Bailey as a ‘Skin. That means Clinton Portis was still in Denver and the uniforms were still in proper order.[/quote]

    and, the skins would have looked sooooo much better if they had just worn these socks on monday night[/quote]

    And those matte pants look SO much better than the current shiny ones, IMHO.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 7, 2008 at 8:43 pm |

    [quote comment="298831"][quote comment="298826"][quote]Funny how there is picture of Champ Bailey as a ‘Skin. That means Clinton Portis was still in Denver and the uniforms were still in proper order.[/quote]

    and, the skins would have looked sooooo much better if they had just worn these socks on monday night[/quote]

    And those matte pants look SO much better than the current shiny ones, IMHO.[/quote]

    Duh. The uniform top wouldn’t match the bottom. Yeech. Shiny pants are for Elton John, not for football.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 7, 2008 at 8:45 pm |

    [quote comment="298832"][quote comment="298831"][quote comment="298826"][quote]Funny how there is picture of Champ Bailey as a ‘Skin. That means Clinton Portis was still in Denver and the uniforms were still in proper order.[/quote]

    and, the skins would have looked sooooo much better if they had just worn these socks on monday night[/quote]

    And those matte pants look SO much better than the current shiny ones, IMHO.[/quote]

    Duh. The uniform top wouldn’t match the bottom. Yeech. Shiny pants are for Elton John, not for football.[/quote]

    Note: not gay bashing, just saying the guy wears outlandish stuff

  • Marcus from B-More | November 7, 2008 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment="298773"]I really like the Nats new away uni’s, because the reference both the Senators and the Expos. The issue now is the home whites – how can they keep the block NATIONALS that doesn’t go with the pretzel W or the away script? I would make the home whites the reverse of the alternate red – plain white with a red pretzel W over the left breast. Their W is iconic, they need to feature it even more. Besides, it would de-emphasize the “Nationals” name, which is still a bit weak.[/quote]

    am I the only one that thinks the alt unis aren’t “uniform” – with respect to the number placement.

    to me,
    http://reds.enquirer...
    http://baseballevolu...
    number placement on the horizontal plane across the chest is more uniform than
    diagonal
    http://voices.washin...

  • Chris | November 7, 2008 at 9:33 pm |
  • Johnny F. | November 7, 2008 at 9:34 pm |

    I’ve been gone a couple days…. and LI Phil has the special “look at me, I’m important” yellow box around his comments?? What did I miss….

  • Juan Grande | November 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm |

    [quote comment="298836"]I’ve been gone a couple days…. and LI Phil has the special “look at me, I’m important” yellow box around his comments?? What did I miss….[/quote]

    LI Phil has been promoted to part-time moderator status by Paul.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 7, 2008 at 10:07 pm |

    [quote comment="298836"]I’ve been gone a couple days…. and LI Phil has the special “look at me, I’m important impotent” yellow box around his comments?? What did I miss….[/quote]

    fixed

    ;)

  • MPowers1634 | November 7, 2008 at 10:14 pm |

    Interesting pic, uni-wise:

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...

  • random reader | November 7, 2008 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment="298813"]Regarding logos on outfield walls, a lot of teams definitely definitely did that. Montreal, St Louis, Three Rivers, Kingdome and Toronto on the walls, the Murph and Vet had theirs on the wall behind the outfield wall. Toronto had one AL division in right field and the other in left (there were only east and west back then). The logos were arranged based on the current standings. I’m not sure how many did that.

    I’m sure there were others.[/quote]

    The Mets used to do this, too.

  • Lwiedy | November 7, 2008 at 10:16 pm |

    [quote comment="298836"]I’ve been gone a couple days…. [/quote]

    Well, let that be a lesson. Stay in touch, stay informed. Nothing wrong with being away, but coming back and popping off says “look at me” more than a yellow box.

  • LI Phil | November 7, 2008 at 10:21 pm |

    [quote comment="298836"]I’ve been gone a couple days…. and LI Phil has the special “look at me, I’m important” yellow box around his comments?? What did I miss….[/quote]

    heh…it’s bench coach…although i prefer ‘intern’ or ‘boy’…(mr. lukas…you like extra starch, right?)

    /the box is “tan”
    //(shhhh…don’t tell bry, but paul tripled his salary for me ;))

  • The Hemogoblin | November 7, 2008 at 10:22 pm |

    [quote comment="298839"]Interesting pic, uni-wise:

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    You know it’s bad logo creep when the PEOTUS has no less than three visible Nike trademarks in a press-release picture of himself.

  • The Hemogoblin | November 7, 2008 at 10:23 pm |

    [quote comment="298842"][quote comment="298836"]I’ve been gone a couple days…. and LI Phil has the special “look at me, I’m important” yellow box around his comments?? What did I miss….[/quote]

    heh…it’s bench coach…although i prefer ‘intern’ or ‘boy’…(mr. lukas…you like extra starch, right?)

    /the box is “tan”
    //(shhhh…don’t tell bry, but paul tripled his salary for me ;))[/quote]

    This place is an aesthetics place… so can someone explain why your box matches nothing else on the entire website?

  • The Hemogoblin | November 7, 2008 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment="298842"][quote comment="298836"]I’ve been gone a couple days…. and LI Phil has the special “look at me, I’m important” yellow box around his comments?? What did I miss….[/quote]

    heh…it’s bench coach…although i prefer ‘intern’ or ‘boy’…(mr. lukas…you like extra starch, right?)

    /the box is “tan”
    //(shhhh…don’t tell bry, but paul tripled his salary for me ;))[/quote]

    Also, I’m pretty sure Paul would cry if you starched his stirrups, Phil… or his jock, for that matter.

  • Bill | November 7, 2008 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment="298728"]I am absolutely torn on what to think….

    Pittsburgh penguins alternate jerseys.. they have sportd the light blue in the past and will again this year.. it’s a really nice jersey and looks good on the ice.. but…
    one of my favorite anomalies in all of sports is the all professional teams from pittsburgh wear black and yellow.. now the black and yellow are still in the jersey, but not he prodominant color.. i just don’t know what to think.. I wish the penguins jerseys were were more ugly, that way I could give a more whole hearted complaint..

    on a related note:: next time i see the steelers in those ugly yellow jerseys with the ugly helmets I’m probably gonna ralph.

    I disagree. I think it’s fine the Pens and Steelers switch it up every now and then. Now, I will admit the Pirates look like Team Mickey D’s when they wear the red alt’s but at least the Pens and Steelers go back to their roots to find their alternates! Let’s just be thankful the Pens don’t have some gold alternate or the Steelers have a yellow alternate!

    Throwbacks are nice. Red vests are not.[/quote]

    I happen to like the red vests. The Pirates did wear red at one time in their history.

  • Tim | November 7, 2008 at 10:49 pm |

    [quote comment="298829"][quote comment="298826"][quote]Funny how there is picture of Champ Bailey as a ‘Skin. That means Clinton Portis was still in Denver and the uniforms were still in proper order.[/quote]

    and, the skins would have looked sooooo much better if they had just worn these socks on monday night[/quote]

    Or had Bruce Smith and Champ Bailey.[/quote]

    Well with Bruce Smith being 45 and Champ Bailey being hurt, how much better could they have done? Then again……

    (do we really need sarcasm tags?)

  • JTH | November 7, 2008 at 10:58 pm |

    [quote comment="298846"]
    I happen to like the red vests. The Pirates did wear red at one time in their history.[/quote]
    So have over half the teams in baseball, but you don’t see them dressed like the guys you hand your car keys to when you pull up at a restaurant.

  • Ryan | November 7, 2008 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment="298799"][quote comment="298797"][quote comment="298796"][quote comment="298732"][quote comment="298695"]Does anyone else know anything about this Flutie Statue unveiling at BC? I heard about it on Mike and Mike. Like to see what he’s wearing. Think the swoosh will appear?[/quote]

    Funny… BC is a reebok school, though.[/quote]

    do we have to go through the whole sarcasm thing again? or do i need to post a link to the Ernie Davis statue article?[/quote]

    what’s even funnier is that the rbk thing was posted not once, but twice[/quote]

    haha yea i noticed that when i got about halfway through the comments. i figured saying it once would be enough.. oh well.[/quote]
    always fun to make fun of people who don’t read UW every day

  • Pete | November 7, 2008 at 11:17 pm |

    nice tv numbers on the kids Miami Xtreme Youth Football League jerseys.

  • Tim | November 7, 2008 at 11:33 pm |

    No Fun League strikes again:

    http://www.nydailyne...

  • Tim | November 7, 2008 at 11:37 pm |

    Ah, the NFL sees the error of its ways:

    http://www.profootba...

  • Jason | November 8, 2008 at 1:35 am |

    WWE wrestler Kelly Kelly (yes, they really call her that) wore a Tampa Bay Lightning jersey on Monday. It can be seen in two of the photos in this gallery.

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  • BaseballinDC | November 11, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment="298773"]I really like the Nats new away uni’s, because the reference both the Senators and the Expos. The issue now is the home whites – how can they keep the block NATIONALS that doesn’t go with the pretzel W or the away script? I would make the home whites the reverse of the alternate red – plain white with a red pretzel W over the left breast. Their W is iconic, they need to feature it even more. Besides, it would de-emphasize the “Nationals” name, which is still a bit weak.[/quote]

    Exactly right