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Monday Morning Uni Watch

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One of the best things about living in NYC is the annual New York City Marathon, which takes place on the first Sunday in November. The route passes a mere half-block from my apartment (my block is one of the side streets on the left in this photo), so Collateral Gammage and I spent about 90 minutes on the sidewalk yesterday cheering the runners on. The sea of humanity that goes by is amazing and inspiring (39,000 runners this year!), and many of the runners put their names and/or countries of origin on their shirts, so you can yell, “Go, Tricia!” or “Lookin’ good, Simone!” or “Viva France!” or whatever. Almost invariably, the runners’ faces light up when they hear themselves being singled out, so the whole thing feels very communicative and interactive. It’s always one of my favorite days of the year, even though I normally couldn’t care less about running.

There’s also lots to check out from a Uni Watch standpoint. Yesterday’s race featured the usual assortment of runners dressed up in Santa outfits, prison stripes, and man thongs (ewwww). And with Election Day right around the corner, there were also lots campaign T-shirts. One guy ran past me wearing a navy tee with red “Obama” lettering in a familiar font, and it took me a second to realize that he was wearing a Red Sox-themed tee from Obama of Dreams, reader Morris Levin’s short-lived T-shirt project from earlier this year. When I got home, I wrote to Morris to let him know one of his shirts had been worn in marathon, but I felt bad that I hadn’t gotten a photo of the runner in question.

Several hours later, however, reader Lars Russell e-mailed to let me know that a slideshow of campaign-related marathon shirts had just appeared on the web. And sure enough, in the middle of the slideshow, there’s the Obama of Dreams guy, immortalized for all to see. Whatever your politics, I hope you’ll agree that it’s totally cool that this Uni Watch-related garment ended up in the marathon.

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Membership News: Lots of ground to cover before we get to the Ticker, beginning with the news that I expect to mail out about 30 membership kits this week (including Chris Warfford’s UNC-themed card, shown at right — nice job by Scott with the argyle trim, right?). Interestingly, three separate people opted for the Phillies alternate uni design in recent weeks, and that was before they won the Series. As always, the full gallery of card designs is here, and info on how to enroll is here. And remember, all new enrollees (or existing members ordering new card designs) will get a $10 gift card from our friends at Distant Replays — a great deal when you consider that the membership fee is only $15 to start with.

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Election Night Research Project: As longtime readers may recall, two years ago I enlisted readers’ help to document the horrifying phenomenon of TV talking heads trying to appear non-partisan on Election Night by wearing purple ties or other purple attire (for details, look here). I’d like to do this again this year, so if you’ve got a DVR and a digital camera, please send pics of any purple-clad talking heads you notice tomorrow night. Thanks.

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Uni Watch Personnel News: It’s rare that a reader will go out of his way to praise another reader’s comments, but that’s what happened on Friday, when the pseudonymous shadoquad had this to say about L.I. Phil: “Phil, I’ve really enjoyed your contributions to the blog recently. I don’t make posts in the comments section very often, but I wanted to commend you on the stuff I’ve seen over the last few weeks. It’s been really terrific.”

I wholeheartedly agree with this assessment, and so I’m happy to announce that Phil (whose “No, I ain’t gonna smile, no way” mug is shown above, and also here) will soon be taking over for Bryan as the new Uni Watch bench coach. I’ve been impressed with Phil’s commentary and uni acumen for a while now, so he was a natural choice for position. Please join me in welcoming him aboard, and let’s also have a nice round of applause for Bryan, who’ll continue to contribute on an ad hoc basis.

Phil’s “L.I. Phil” nickname, incidentally, isn’t just an internet pose. But in the interests of accountability, he’ll now be known around here by his real name, Phil Hecken (unless he writes something really stupid, in which case he’ll be known as Joe Morgan or something).

Uni Watch News Ticker: Lots of readers wrote in over the weekend regarding Saturday’s Oregon/Cal game, but I’ll have more to say about that tomorrow. … Meanwhile, it’s worth noting that Cal wasn’t the only team wearing solid yellow on Saturday — check out Wyoming. ”¦ Look at the huge SNOB lettering (that’s school name on back) that Ohio University wore in 1965. ”¦ Someone on the Chris Creamer board posted this photo — note the two-tone helmet. That’s UConn, whose helmet was half white, half blue in 1965. ”¦ My longtime friend David Brown was recently poking around at a flea market up in the Catskills and found this. As he said when he sent it to me, “It’s got everything going for it.” ”¦ Jason Siewert reports that the Wisconsin hockey team’s outlined letters are no longer outlined this season. ”¦ Spencer Merritt of New Mexico went NNOB on Saturday. Not clear if his nameplate got ripped off or if he never had one to begin with (good spot by Brett Crane). ”¦ Trey Phillips reports that several U. of Florida players were wearing Band-Aids underneath their left eyes on Saturday. ”¦ Logo creep alert from the aforementioned Phil Hecken, who notes that Minnesota’s cymbal players are wearing Under Armour gloves. ”¦ Several cool eBay finds by Scott Turner, including two great hockey jerseys and killer football jersey. ”¦ That’s some belt buckle on Japanese golfer Chie Arimura (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). ”¦ Also from Jeremy: Japanese baseball player Yasuyuki Kataoka recently his uniform at the team hotel and had to borrow a teammate’s uni, which led to a confusing situation. ”¦ Chuck Miller is a frequent contributor to Toy Collector magazine, and his latest article is a superb look at electric football (i.e., the old games with the vibrating field). To check it out, go here, replace “1 of 78” with “31,” and then click the arrow tabs to page through the article. ”¦ Here’s Bill Henderson and his son Michael at the Phillies’ championship parade last week. “I loved Pat Burrell on the beer truck, writes Bill. “I asked Michael if perhaps he had to ride there because he didn’t have any friends to stand next to, and Michael told me to shut up. Not good to make fun of Pat Burrell.” ”¦ Mississippi State wore a pink helmet ribbon for breast cancer awareness on Saturday. ”¦ Anyone know why the Hornets wore blue at home on Saturday night? ”¦ Remember how all the soccer federations had to remove their logos from uniforms during the Olympics? That same rule may now be applied to hockey (with thanks to Jonathan Deery). ”¦ Phil got some screen grabs of a Titans equipment staffer applying the green dot to a helmet. ”¦ Reprinted from Sunday’s comments: Check out the logo socks being worn by West Virginia Tech. ”¦ The Lions’ 75th-anniversary patch was missing from QB Dan Orlovsky’s jersey yesterday (with thanks to Greg Licht). ”¦ Last night’s Simpsons episode had a bit where Bart goes to the 99 ¢ store for a last-minute “bargain” gift. Among the overstock goods: an Expos jersey (thanks, Phil). ”¦ Kansas players attribute Saturday’s big win over Kansas State to — wait for it — spatting. No, really (with thanks to Clayton Snodgrass). ”¦ The Welsh rugby team is sponsored by Brains, a beer company. But they can’t wear alcohol-related sponsorship logos when playing in France, so they change their jerseys to Brawn (with thanks to Alan Lai). … Last week I mentioned that I’d won this old basketball jersey on eBay. It arrived in the mail on Saturday, and I couldn’t be happier, although it looks a lot better on the galpal than it does on me.

 
  
 
Comments (208)

    Hope you managed to keep your breakfast in when man-thong came by.
    Judging by proximity of the Verrazano bridge in the picture, is that Bay Ridge in Brooklyn?

    When I was in Boston I lived off of Comm Ave. It was the same way. It was fun to cheer on the different nationalities and cheer on everyone. If you haven’t been to a big marathon, I highly recommend it!

    [quote comment=”297871″]Enthusiastic applause for Bryan’s contributions. Congrats to LI Phil too.[/quote]

    thanks gregg

    but the real applause should be reserved for mr. redemske…his efforts on behalf of UW cannot be sufficiently extolled, and i can only hope to do half as good a job as he has done…

    so three cheers for bryan!

    Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!!

    [quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Yikes. If that were in Green Bay, players would do the “Lambeau Splat”.

    Anyone else think those Kansas blues are nice? Kinda like the Giants, with just enough “variations on a theme” to make them their own.

    [quote comment=”297877″][quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Yikes. If that were in Green Bay, players would do the “Lambeau Splat”.[/quote]
    I’ve never seen pictures, but I’ve heard that one corner of the south end zone at Wrigley Field was actually in the visitors’ dugout when the Bears played there.

    Is this something you remember?

    “to check it out, go here, replace “1 of 78″ with “31,” and then click the arrow tabs to page through the article. … ”

    Creamsicle alert, pg “43” :)

    [quote comment=”297879″][quote comment=”297877″][quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Yikes. If that were in Green Bay, players would do the “Lambeau Splat”.[/quote]
    I’ve never seen pictures, but I’ve heard that one corner of the south end zone at Wrigley Field was actually in the visitors’ dugout when the Bears played there.

    Is this something you remember?[/quote]

    Yeah, LOL, they had the BAND sit there, of all places. I remember in the early 60’s a Viking WR named Charlie Ferguson caught a couple TD passes in one game and ended up scrambling the band both times. I think there’s an old “NFL Follies” with clips and pretty funny sound effects…but not sure.

    Oops, I was thinking of the other corner, near the outfield wall. Upper left when you watched games on TV.

    [quote comment=”297881″][quote comment=”297879″][quote comment=”297877″][quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Yikes. If that were in Green Bay, players would do the “Lambeau Splat”.[/quote]
    I’ve never seen pictures, but I’ve heard that one corner of the south end zone at Wrigley Field was actually in the visitors’ dugout when the Bears played there.

    Is this something you remember?[/quote]

    Yeah, LOL, they had the BAND sit there, of all places. I remember in the early 60’s a Viking WR named Charlie Ferguson caught a couple TD passes in one game and ended up scrambling the band both times. I think there’s an old “NFL Follies” with clips and pretty funny sound effects…but not sure.[/quote]

    here’s what dick butkus had to say about that (second paragraph):

    [quote]The field ran north to south from the left field to the foul side of first base. The capacity was 38,000 and the visiting baseball teams’ dugout (first base side) was in the corner of the south end zone, which required a special ground rule that sliced off that corner of the end zone. The dugout was filled with pads for safety. One corner of the north end line ran just inches short of the left field wall.

    “The definition of a pro is you can play anywhere, the prairie, anywhere. This field was kind of an awkward configuration because the end zone was 2-by-4s across the dugout and the slope of the field. We practiced here. They had to paint the dirt green because there was no grass. To me that is the sign of a real pro. Whereas now they don’t get dirty and everything is perfect. I don’t know about that, I like the old days.”[/quote]

    Those Ohio U. pictures are great – it looks like they also show the old “padded stripe” helmets (which Ohio State wore around the same time, too). They were supposedly meant to prevent injuries to opposing players when leading with the helmet.

    Phil, congratulations on the appointment!

    I’m looking at those marathon photos and am disappointed to see most of the runners not folding over the logo creep on the numbers. When I finally realized my long-held dream to run the NYC marathon, I wore a plain white T-shirt with the sponsor name (I think it was Chase Manhattan Bank that year) folded over. It turned the number into plain black digits on a nice clean white background — the way things ought to be!

    Also — yellow-green numbers on a pale green background? How can anybody read that?

    [quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Totally! Also, is it just me or does that blue end zone look like painted concrete for some reason?

    I also remember when the Packers would play their 2 games a year at County Stadium in Milwaukee. The corners of the end zones were right at the wall, with even LESS room then the WV Tech photo.

    [quote comment=”297887″][quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Totally! Also, is it just me or does that blue end zone look like painted concrete for some reason?

    I also remember when the Packers would play their 2 games a year at County Stadium in Milwaukee. The corners of the end zones were right at the wall, with even LESS room then the WV Tech photo.[/quote]

    Now with clicky linky goodness!

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    Both end zones were like that.

    [quote comment=”297875″][quote comment=”297871″]Enthusiastic applause for Bryan’s contributions. Congrats to LI Phil too.[/quote]

    thanks gregg

    but the real applause should be reserved for mr. redemske…his efforts on behalf of UW cannot be sufficiently extolled, and i can only hope to do half as good a job as he has done…

    so three cheers for bryan![/quote]
    Hip hip hooray
    Hip hip hooray
    Hip hip hooray for Bryan!
    Wisconsin hockey still wearing the adidas sweaters with the Nike Bauer equipment? I see no swoosh but I recognize that model of helmet anywhere. Adidas owns Reebok which owns the Hockey Company (CCM and others) so why don’t they send Wisky some stuff?

    So does LI Phil get a yellow box? If so, there goes my strategy of skimming until i see a yellow box. Every other one will be yellow.

    Did anyone notice last night on the Colts-Pats game that the ear holes on Matt Cassel’s helmet were closed in? They looked like they were closed in with white plastic. I wonder if that is a preference or if he did that because of the Indy crowd noise? I dont have a screen grab but if anyone could help. There were close-ups on the broadcast

    Paul’s mention of the short-lived “Obama of Dreams” project reminded me that I meant to post link of myself wearing the Pirates version I was fortunate enough to acquire last spring. It’s a shot of my booth at the link fair in DC about a month back.

    Good timing, too, as I hope after tomorrow we can finally stop thinking about all this for awhile!

    Congrats, Mr. Hecken, and thank G-d it’s not baseball season anymore. We don’t need two Mets fans inmates running the asylum here.

    I just saw my membership card art and it’s lovely. link

    I’m proud to be the first Louisiana Tech jersey on here.

    [quote comment=”297875″][quote comment=”297871″]Enthusiastic applause for Bryan’s contributions. Congrats to LI Phil too.[/quote]

    thanks gregg

    but the real applause should be reserved for mr. redemske…his efforts on behalf of UW cannot be sufficiently extolled, and i can only hope to do half as good a job as he has done…

    so three cheers for bryan![/quote]

    Thanks, Phil. My contributions could probably best be summed up by link kid. And then add a lot of invective directed at me in the following posts. Ha!

    While watching the Pack vs Titans yesterday, I said to myself, “I should really get a pic of that guy putting the radio sticker on the helmet.” but I figured LI Phil would… and I was right. And, I never go out of my way to watch the Simpsons except for the Tree house of Horror, and I said, “I bet Phil is gonna get a pic of that Expos jersey.”

    I just can’t believe I was right on both accounts!
    Congrats on the new gig Phil, and cheers and beers to Bryan for his contributions…hip hip horray!

    “Business Administration”: perhaps the greatest hockey sweater of all time? What a gem!

    Meanwhile, Wisconsin did themselves a favor by removing the border around the letters. It looks sooo much better. Somebody there understands the importance of small details.

    Got curious about that WVUTech pic. Here I Googled earth their football field.
    link

    Close shot of the surface.
    link

    Aftermath of that pic Pual posted, and a “concrete” proof of the surface (with weeds growing out of it)
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    link

    WVU’s Pat White was wearing the new Schutt Ion….wonder why they waited until the 8th game of the season to change helmets?

    link

    new helmet
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    Here is a picture of the pink jerseys worn by the Columbus Cottonmouths of the SPHL last weekend during their home opener. The script on the bottom says Ladies First which is the local organization that the proceeds went for. They also auctioned off pink sticks used in warm ups.

    Re: The Hornets wearing blue at home.
    My guess was that since it was the home opener, they wanted to show off the new (away) jerseys. It was a good game, plus a sellout (which is vital for the Hornets to stick around), plus they beat the Cavs.

    [quote comment=”297903″]link is a picture of the pink jerseys worn by the Columbus Cottonmouths of the SPHL last weekend during their home opener. The script on the bottom says Ladies First which is the local organization that the proceeds went for. They also auctioned off pink sticks used in warm ups.[/quote]

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    I don’t suppose you can dig up a closeup of that southeast corner? That’s really what I meant. I’ve never seen pics of it where you can actually see that it was actually in the dugout.
    [quote]
    and jth…

    link

    you goin to the game new year’s day?[/quote]
    I hope to, but tickets are not going to be easy to come by. Nor are they going to be wallet-friendly.

    I suppose I could guarantee myself some by buying a season ticket package, but I’m not really in a position to do that right now.

    And speaking of the Blackhawks, I think they’re officially unveiling their third jerseys tonight. And by “unveiling” I mean that they’re supposed to be wearing them tonight.

    “… Last week I mentioned that I’d won this old basketball jersey on eBay. It arrived in the mail on Saturday, and I couldn’t be happier, although it looks a lot better on the galpal than it does on me.”

    *****

    Paul! Love the jersey and the model, but tell us about the Corn-relief display. You have a collection of counter samples addressing human frailties no longer discussed in modern advertising? Tell!

    Awesome monday post.

    I ran my first NYC marathon yesterday (8th overall) – I can’t believe how the city gets behind the event. The sheer number of spectators, the enthusiasm. Any other city, it would be people complaining about the traffic chaos – here they’re out in droves cheering for slow white guys like me.

    A couple of uni-thoughts:

    – I was behind the Borat guy for a while on 5th avenue (mile 22ish) – he was my inspiration to pick up the pace so I didn’t have to look at him

    – Also on the Borat guy, that unitard isn’t the worst uni faux pas he’s committing – in running, number goes on the FRONT!

    – There’s a bunch of runners in various photos wearing their finisher shirts (blue longsleeve with white writing) to race. That’s a no-no for two reasons – first you never wear something in a race that you didn’t wear in training, and second, you haven’t earned the shirt until after the race is over.

    – The logo creep doesn’t bother me at all. There just wouldn’t be a race of this magnitude if not for the sponsors and I don’t mind if (in exchange for their contribution) they slap their logo on everything in sight. A race like this is a monumental undertaking and the sponsors deserve some gratitude.

    Thanks for letting us use your streets and bridges for a day, and for the unbelievable support!

    [quote comment=”297906″][quote comment=”297884″]link
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    I don’t suppose you can dig up a closeup of that southeast corner? That’s really what I meant. I’ve never seen pics of it where you can actually see that it was actually in the dugout.
    [/quote]

    i’ll see what i can find…wasn’t easy from my quick prelminiary search…but i did find link (photo cap: Bob Margarita (No. 44) of the Chicago Bears scoring on a six-yard run against the Green Bay Packers in a 1945 game at Wrigley Field) sweet pic from wrigley

    One more thought on the bibs (sorry to go on) – the colours on the bib all mean something – green numbers mean you run the green course, and the yellow background means you were in the second wave start (10 a.m.). I was blue on yellow which means blue course, 10 a.m. start. The letter at the end (“F” for Obama of Dreams guy) means you’re in the sixth corral of the second wave, I was “C” for the third corral of the second wave.

    Long story short, its all to let the course marshalls know at a glance if you’re in the right place.

    [quote comment=”297901″]Got curious about that WVUTech pic. Here I Googled earth their football field.
    link

    Close shot of the surface.
    link

    Aftermath of that pic Pual posted, and a “concrete” proof of the surface (with weeds growing out of it)
    link
    link

    That’s definitely plywood, which makes me feel a little better.

    [quote comment=”297909″]”… Last week I mentioned that I’d won this old basketball jersey on eBay. It arrived in the mail on Saturday, and I couldn’t be happier, although it looks a lot better on the galpal than it does on me.”

    *****

    Paul! Love the jersey and the model, but tell us about the Corn-relief display. You have a collection of counter samples addressing human frailties no longer discussed in modern advertising? Tell![/quote]

    Just one of the many vintage advertising displays I use as home décor. Here’s a closer view:
    link

    PHILLIE FANS!!! I have to ask for the story for why the Budweiser Clydsdales and hitch were in your parade. Anyone got a story for that? Obviously here in St Louis we have a long standing history with the brewery and we’ve featured the Clydesdales often, especially when Gussie owned the team. Now, it comes out at the season opener and it was featured in our parade in 2006. What is it doing in Philadelphia? Its weird to look close at the photo and see all of the brown beer crates with St Louis MO on them in the Phillies parade.

    [quote comment=”297915″]link

    still lookin for the holy grail pic tho[/quote]

    Also…remember “Orr’s Corner” at Baltimore’s Memorial Stadium (lower right on TV)? There were large sheets of plywood or something laid from ground to dugout roof, creating a slanted surface up which Jimmy Orr would skate gingerly, then back down again, after catching TD passes from John Unitas (or Earl Morrall in’68) on his patented Corner route…in that corner.

    [quote comment=”297910″]Awesome monday post.

    I ran my first NYC marathon yesterday (8th overall) – I can’t believe how the city gets behind the event. The sheer number of spectators, the enthusiasm. Any other city, it would be people complaining about the traffic chaos – here they’re out in droves cheering for slow white guys like me.[/quote]
    Just out of curiosity, what other cities’ marathons have you run?

    I’ve got to say that the UNC membership card is amazing. Great job on the details!

    Also, I want to say thank you to Bryan for all of his hard work. Your dry humor and wit always made the weekends enjoyable.

    [quote comment=”297914″][quote comment=”297901″]Got curious about that WVUTech pic. Here I Googled earth their football field.
    link

    Close shot of the surface.
    link

    Aftermath of that pic Pual posted, and a “concrete” proof of the surface (with weeds growing out of it)
    link
    link

    That’s definitely plywood, which makes me feel a little better.[/quote]

    link is a picture of the WV Tech field from their website. I wonder how many injuries that field causes a season? And, what’s up with the goalposts?

    [quote comment=”297919″][quote comment=”297910″]Awesome monday post.

    I ran my first NYC marathon yesterday (8th overall) – I can’t believe how the city gets behind the event. The sheer number of spectators, the enthusiasm. Any other city, it would be people complaining about the traffic chaos – here they’re out in droves cheering for slow white guys like me.[/quote]
    Just out of curiosity, what other cities’ marathons have you run?[/quote]

    Calgary, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Red Deer (I live in Calgary so I tend to race closer to home, this is my first big destination race.

    [quote comment=”297911″]i’ll see what i can find…wasn’t easy from my quick prelminiary search…but i did find link (photo cap: Bob Margarita (No. 44) of the Chicago Bears scoring on a six-yard run against the Green Bay Packers in a 1945 game at Wrigley Field) sweet pic from wrigley[/quote]
    that is a great picture. I love the way the scoreboard is jury-rigged to say
    NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE
    across the top.

    [quote comment=”297883″][quote comment=”297881″][quote comment=”297879″][quote comment=”297877″][quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Yikes. If that were in Green Bay, players would do the “Lambeau Splat”.[/quote]
    I’ve never seen pictures, but I’ve heard that one corner of the south end zone at Wrigley Field was actually in the visitors’ dugout when the Bears played there.

    Is this something you remember?[/quote]

    Yeah, LOL, they had the BAND sit there, of all places. I remember in the early 60’s a Viking WR named Charlie Ferguson caught a couple TD passes in one game and ended up scrambling the band both times. I think there’s an old “NFL Follies” with clips and pretty funny sound effects…but not sure.[/quote]

    here’s what dick butkus had to say about that (second paragraph):

    [quote]The field ran north to south from the left field to the foul side of first base. The capacity was 38,000 and the visiting baseball teams’ dugout (first base side) was in the corner of the south end zone, which required a special ground rule that sliced off that corner of the end zone. The dugout was filled with pads for safety. One corner of the north end line ran just inches short of the left field wall.

    “The definition of a pro is you can play anywhere, the prairie, anywhere. This field was kind of an awkward configuration because the end zone was 2-by-4s across the dugout and the slope of the field. We practiced here. They had to paint the dirt green because there was no grass. To me that is the sign of a real pro. Whereas now they don’t get dirty and everything is perfect. I don’t know about that, I like the old days.”[/quote][/quote]

    I bet there was no SKI-JUMPING at Wrigley!

    link

    And when does Phil get a yellow box?

    [quote comment=”297922″][quote comment=”297914″][quote comment=”297901″]Got curious about that WVUTech pic. Here I Googled earth their football field.
    link

    Close shot of the surface.
    link

    Aftermath of that pic Pual posted, and a “concrete” proof of the surface (with weeds growing out of it)
    link
    link

    That’s definitely plywood, which makes me feel a little better.[/quote]

    link is a picture of the WV Tech field from their website. I wonder how many injuries that field causes a season? And, what’s up with the goalposts?[/quote]

    As long as the walls are similar to Arena, I’m sure the players adjust.

    [quote comment=”297926″][quote comment=”297922″][quote comment=”297914″][quote comment=”297901″]Got curious about that WVUTech pic. Here I Googled earth their football field.
    link

    Close shot of the surface.
    link

    Aftermath of that pic Pual posted, and a “concrete” proof of the surface (with weeds growing out of it)
    link
    link

    That’s definitely plywood, which makes me feel a little better.[/quote]

    link is a picture of the WV Tech field from their website. I wonder how many injuries that field causes a season? And, what’s up with the goalposts?[/quote]

    As long as the walls are similar to Arena, I’m sure the players adjust.[/quote]

    I take back my last comment: OW!!!

    [quote comment=”297927″][quote comment=”297926″][quote comment=”297922″][quote comment=”297914″][quote comment=”297901″]Got curious about that WVUTech pic. Here I Googled earth their football field.
    link

    Close shot of the surface.
    link

    Aftermath of that pic Pual posted, and a “concrete” proof of the surface (with weeds growing out of it)
    link
    link

    That’s definitely plywood, which makes me feel a little better.[/quote]

    link is a picture of the WV Tech field from their website. I wonder how many injuries that field causes a season? And, what’s up with the goalposts?[/quote]

    As long as the walls are similar to Arena, I’m sure the players adjust.[/quote]

    I take back my last comment: OW!!![/quote]

    BTW, notice the helmet decal on the UC defenders’ lumbar plate?

    link

    [quote comment=”297922″][quote comment=”297914″][quote comment=”297901″]Got curious about that WVUTech pic. Here I Googled earth their football field.
    link

    Close shot of the surface.
    link

    Aftermath of that pic Pual posted, and a “concrete” proof of the surface (with weeds growing out of it)
    link
    link

    That’s definitely plywood, which makes me feel a little better.[/quote]

    link is a picture of the WV Tech field from their website. I wonder how many injuries that field causes a season? And, what’s up with the goalposts?[/quote]
    Alot of high schools use that kind of goals posts. It’s just like the “foul ball post” for baseball.

    [quote comment=”297923″][quote comment=”297919″][quote comment=”297910″]Awesome monday post.

    I ran my first NYC marathon yesterday (8th overall) – I can’t believe how the city gets behind the event. The sheer number of spectators, the enthusiasm. Any other city, it would be people complaining about the traffic chaos – here they’re out in droves cheering for slow white guys like me.[/quote]
    Just out of curiosity, what other cities’ marathons have you run?[/quote]

    Calgary, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Red Deer (I live in Calgary so I tend to race closer to home, this is my first big destination race.[/quote]
    Wow. I always thought big crowds cheering on the runners was pretty much standard practice for marathons. I know several people who’ve run the Chicago marathon and they all have said the crowds are great. I know another guy who ran Boston and he said pretty much the same thing.

    And I don’t recall ever hearing much bitching about traffic on race day. Of course, I hear so much bitching about traffic on a daily basis, maybe it’s there but I just tune it out.

    Alright, here’s my obligatory comment for the appointment:

    Phil, I’m setting up camp on your front lawn!!! ;o)

    Good job, Mr. Hecken. You do some fine work on the board, and your shots at us hockey folk always bring about a chuckle from me.

    Bryan, solid work as always. Stick around, and continue contributing. Vinnie has a place in the original Uni Watch Hall of Fame, and you’ll be the third portrait down that hallowed Hall now.

    Paul, just as an aside, the Pittsburgh Penguins will unveil their third jersey on November 5, not the 3rd. The ticker may need to be adjusted for that detail.

    I’m turning to the readers since none of the NFL fans at work seem to know the answer. At least two, and maybe more, NFL teams are featuring an old-school diagonal striping in their end zones. The Packers have it this year and the Steelers have it in one end zone. Is there something I’ve missed or is it just team preference?

    Congrats Phil.

    I took Uni-Watch off my daily reads over the political crap that was going on a few months back.

    But I decided to check in today and came to find out that my favorite commenter is now a writer for the blog.

    Awesome.

    Alt-Z.

    Check.

    [quote comment=”297932″]Paul, just as an aside, the Pittsburgh Penguins will unveil their third jersey on November 5, not the 3rd. The ticker may need to be adjusted for that detail.[/quote]

    I was going by this, which appeared on the Pens’ web site the other day:
    link

    — P.

    still nothing concrete on that wrigley endzone dugout, but link (and some of those other vids may have better shots…i just don’t have the time to check em all right now)…

    also…link

    [quote comment=”297936″][quote comment=”297932″]Paul, just as an aside, the Pittsburgh Penguins will unveil their third jersey on November 5, not the 3rd. The ticker may need to be adjusted for that detail.[/quote]

    I was going by this, which appeared on the Pens’ web site the other day:
    link

    — P.[/quote]
    Apparently there’s some conflicting info about the date. According to link on the Penguins’ site, Wednesday is the day.

    link figures that someone made a mistake with that ad and it will be corrected as soon as someone notices. Apparently nobody’s noticed yet.

    Congrats Phil. I can’t wait to read what you got for us. With all the knowledge you spread on the comments I can’t imagine what you’ll come up with on a spread. I’m really looking forward to seeing your work.

    Congratulations!

    [quote comment=”297938″]still nothing concrete on that wrigley endzone dugout, but link (and some of those other vids may have better shots…i just don’t have the time to check em all right now)…

    also…link…[/quote]
    After all the effort you’ve put in so far, I think if you do dig up something good, maybe you should save it for your first post as the new bench coach.

    Regarding the Welsh rugby jerseys: another UK meaning for “brawn” is what we refer to as headcheese. Beer and headcheese, the perfect lunch!

    Here’s a new one from the Pitt-Notre Dame game on Saturday: a player (Andrew Taglianetti) with his first initial and last name on the back (sorry, no screen grabs; I’m not in that century yet; he did block a punt) NOT to differentiate between anyone else on the team named Taglianetti, NOT to differentiate between anyone else in his sport named Taglianetti, but to differentiate between someone from an entirely different sport and generation: his father, Peter Taglianetti, who played hockey for the Stanley Cup winning Penguins, as well as for Winnipeg, Minnesota, and Tampa Bay.

    I’d like to echo the sentiments of other readers and say congratulations to Phil, and Three Cheers for Bryan. I think Bryan did some fine work for UW, and I think that Phil will do well in his place.

    noticed the mistake on the Penguins’ jersey unveiling also. Their website is stating that it’s Wednesday… it’s story #4 in the rotating news thing.

    I’m pretty sure this has been mentioned above (see post #40), but I believe the man thong wearer was being filmed for the new Borat movie. I’m not sure if it was Sascha Baren Cohen or not.

    As far as the Hornets wearing their blues at home the other night, I noticed a trend that a lot of teams in their home openers were wearing their road jerseys. (Thank goodness for the free week of the NBA league pass!)

    Congrats to Phil!

    [quote comment=”297916″][quote comment=”297909″]”… Last week I mentioned that I’d won this old basketball jersey on eBay. It arrived in the mail on Saturday, and I couldn’t be happier, although it looks a lot better on the galpal than it does on me.”

    *****

    Paul! Love the jersey and the model, but tell us about the Corn-relief display. You have a collection of counter samples addressing human frailties no longer discussed in modern advertising? Tell![/quote]

    Just one of the many vintage advertising displays I use as home décor. Here’s a closer view:
    link

    Was it risque back in those days to use a hot little minky to sell corn relief medication?

    Hornets also wore their home whites at Phoenix earlier this week.

    We were at the home opener Saturday night, and there was a promotional t-shirt giveaway. The shirts were “creole blue” so I think the road unis at home was to get the team and the fans all in the same color for the night.

    coworker just pointed out the browns and broncs are playing this thursday (nfl network…which, thanks to my cable provider, i won’t be viewing)…

    anyone wanna bet they’re gonna break out the all brown monochrome?

    [quote comment=”297936″][quote comment=”297932″]Paul, just as an aside, the Pittsburgh Penguins will unveil their third jersey on November 5, not the 3rd. The ticker may need to be adjusted for that detail.[/quote]

    I was going by this, which appeared on the Pens’ web site the other day:
    link

    — P.[/quote]

    Ahhh, no wonder. :o)

    According to link, it will be on the 5th as they debut them on-ice the next day against the Edmonton Oilers.

    I think that little advertisement may have jumped the gun since Dick’s Sporting Goods and a lot of fans have made plans for the 5th, according to the message boards.

    [quote comment=”297925″][quote comment=”297883″][quote comment=”297881″][quote comment=”297879″][quote comment=”297877″][quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Yikes. If that were in Green Bay, players would do the “Lambeau Splat”.[/quote]
    I’ve never seen pictures, but I’ve heard that one corner of the south end zone at Wrigley Field was actually in the visitors’ dugout when the Bears played there.

    Is this something you remember?[/quote]

    Yeah, LOL, they had the BAND sit there, of all places. I remember in the early 60’s a Viking WR named Charlie Ferguson caught a couple TD passes in one game and ended up scrambling the band both times. I think there’s an old “NFL Follies” with clips and pretty funny sound effects…but not sure.[/quote]

    here’s what dick butkus had to say about that (second paragraph):

    [quote]The field ran north to south from the left field to the foul side of first base. The capacity was 38,000 and the visiting baseball teams’ dugout (first base side) was in the corner of the south end zone, which required a special ground rule that sliced off that corner of the end zone. The dugout was filled with pads for safety. One corner of the north end line ran just inches short of the left field wall.

    “The definition of a pro is you can play anywhere, the prairie, anywhere. This field was kind of an awkward configuration because the end zone was 2-by-4s across the dugout and the slope of the field. We practiced here. They had to paint the dirt green because there was no grass. To me that is the sign of a real pro. Whereas now they don’t get dirty and everything is perfect. I don’t know about that, I like the old days.”[/quote][/quote]

    I bet there was no SKI-JUMPING at Wrigley!

    link

    And when does Phil get a yellow box?[/quote]
    and you would lose that bet.

    [quote comment=”297947″]I’m pretty sure this has been mentioned above (see post #40), but I believe the man thong wearer was being filmed for the new Borat movie. I’m not sure if it was Sascha Baren Cohen or not.[/quote]
    Nope. SBC was in link filming a scene for the Bruno movie

    A BRIEF HISTORY
    The Norge Ski Club was established on November 12, 1905. Since then, there have been many exciting events. Twice, the Norge Ski Club erected a jump and demonstrated ski jumping to a full house at Soldier Field. At another time, the club demonstrated the sport at Wrigley Field!

    Don’t know if anyone else caught this, but one of the Texas Tech players had an link. I speak pretty good hebrew, and I am not sure what that word is. The Texas Tech link has link listed as #48, ESPN has link and neither of them have very Jewish names, not that means they would speak Hebrew of course…

    [quote comment=”297922″][quote comment=”297914″][quote comment=”297901″]Got curious about that WVUTech pic. Here I Googled earth their football field.
    link

    Close shot of the surface.
    link

    Aftermath of that pic Pual posted, and a “concrete” proof of the surface (with weeds growing out of it)
    link
    link

    That’s definitely plywood, which makes me feel a little better.[/quote]

    link is a picture of the WV Tech field from their website. I wonder how many injuries that field causes a season? And, what’s up with the goalposts?[/quote]
    the internal post are for practice. to be good you gotta hit the smaller width. My concern with the post is they are super thin and sagging.

    For all of the Mets fans, New Era’s website has a Mets Elmer Fudd hat available for pre-order.

    link

    Two interesting points, it’s 97% wool and it’s black.

    I don’t have a screen cap, but it looked like Andrew Ference (#21) had “12” written on his elbow pads during Saturday’s slugfest in Boston.

    Phil, congrats!

    [quote comment=”297938″]still nothing concrete on that wrigley endzone dugout, but link (and some of those other vids may have better shots…i just don’t have the time to check em all right now)…

    [/quote]
    Bears vs. Cards footage is actually from 1956, as a youtube commenter pointed out. Still awesome, though.

    Now that I’ve seen pics of LI Phil I can erase the mental image I had of him (coincidentally seen in the ticker holding up an Expos jersey).

    I live a block away from the NYC Marathon route and my wife and I now have a yearly breakfast bash and then go out and cheer on the runners. I remember that the Marathon in 2001 was the first time I had felt “normal” again after 9/11. Powerful stuff.

    As for politcal statements, I had to tip my hat to a guy I saw running by holding a McCain/Palin placard. Not only was he bucking the prevailing sentiment in the Big Apple, he basically was running without pumping his arms.

    [quote comment=”297960″][quote comment=”297938″]still nothing concrete on that wrigley endzone dugout, but link (and some of those other vids may have better shots…i just don’t have the time to check em all right now)…

    [/quote]Bears vs. Cards footage is actually from 1956, as a youtube commenter pointed out. Still awesome, though.[/quote]

    Really fun to see Cards in their flip-flop road unis. For at least one season in mid 50’s they wore white-red-white at home and red-white-red on the road. First team I ever saw with different home and road helmets. Thought that was pretty cool.

    Cards’ QB is Lamar McHan, #8, one of the relatively few single-digits in NFL at the time. There were others, yes, but not all that many. McHan later was Lombardi’s first starting Packer QB. Wore #17 in GB, though.

    I don’t know if it’s related to the Florida players, but I remember from my middle school days that the rapper Nelly sometimes wore a band-aid on his cheek: link

    interesting article here about a Cubs fan getting the logo tattooed on him and the tattoo artist inscribing “Go Cards” on it:
    link

    Pittsburgh Penguins players Tyler Kennedy, Kris Letang, Alex Goligoski, Paul Bissonnette and Eric Godard will be on hand to model the Penguins’ third jersey Wednesday, November 5 at Dick’s Sporting Goods in The Mall at Robinson. The event will be held from 6:00 to 8:00 pm and is open to the public free of charge.

    The jersey and uniform are the same light blue color pattern that the Penguins wore in last season’s NHL Winter Classic against the Buffalo Sabres on New Year’s Day. The light blue color pattern was originally used by the team in the 1970s

    I’d be remiss if I didn’t jump in and say big congrats to LI Phil for his appointment to the yellow box crew. Well deserved…great call Paul

    Bryan, thanks for keeping this circus going during the weekends and in Paul absences during road trips and vacations. Although we had some minor disagreements, I still have your back on that face paint (the kid DID look like a clown!) You know you can always hit me up on twitter.

    [quote comment=”297949″]Hornets also wore their home whites at Phoenix earlier this week.

    We were at the home opener Saturday night, and there was a promotional t-shirt giveaway. The shirts were “creole blue” so I think the road unis at home was to get the team and the fans all in the same color for the night.[/quote]

    Hornets wearing the whites here in Phoenix was a result of the Suns wearing their Road alt Orange unis.. not sure why that was though.

    Speaking of single-digit numbers and their relative scarcity in the late 50’s and early 60’s, I’m not sure there were any players in the entire AFL that first season of 1960 who wore a single digit number. Possibly Ben Agajanian, who kicked for the Los Angeles Chargers. He might have worn #3.

    Virtually all the kickers that season played other positions, kicking as a specialty (Gino Cappelletti, George Blanda, Gene Mingo, etc.), which kept down the number of unique, um…numbers.

    Hmmm…something to check on, as best I can, during Steelers-‘Skins tonight, I guess.

    watching the pats and colts game last night, i noticed a pats jersey nameplate was coming off. i can’t remeber who the player was. but i know it was a long name. what was really weird was it was a letter towards the end of the name and not the whole nameplate. anyone else catch it or get a picture?

    [quote comment=”297965″]I don’t know if it’s related to the Florida players, but I remember from my middle school days that the rapper Nelly sometimes wore a band-aid on his cheek: link[/quote]
    Some of those Gator players are wearing these, and not band-aids.
    link

    Also there are a couple of Gator players are wearing Riddel Revo Speed. (So as #12 from Texas, not Colt, but a DB)

    [quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Was busted in 2004…
    link

    …which is good, because as an Ohio boy I can’t imagine rooting for the Stillers even if my future depends on it.

    Congrats Phil.

    BTW, what yellow boxes? I do, and have only seen “peach puff” colored boxes. Seriously, that’s what the color is called on wikipedia, and considering that Wikipedia is the culmination of all human knowledge, I have to believe it’s a real color name. And I’ve checked this site from many-a-different computers, at home, work, school, always peach, so I’m not sure how it’s a screen color problem. Any ideas?

    [quote comment=”297979″][quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Was busted in 2004…
    link

    …which is good, because as an Ohio boy I can’t imagine rooting for the Stillers even if my future depends on it.[/quote]
    Maybe so, but one thing we all know for sure is that every time the Phillies win the World Series in an election year, the Republican Presidential candidate wins.

    [quote comment=”297981″][quote comment=”297979″][quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Was busted in 2004…
    link

    …which is good, because as an Ohio boy I can’t imagine rooting for the Stillers even if my future depends on it.[/quote]
    Maybe so, but one thing we all know for sure is that every time the Phillies win the World Series in an election year, the Republican Presidential candidate wins.[/quote]

    We know that every time that one of my teams wins the championship… nevermind, it’s never come up.

    [quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Only if Clinton Portis scores less than 11 fantasy points!!!

    As a proud graduate of Binghamton High School, it was great to see the ticker item about Central today. As an FYI, Central no longer exists, the two local high schools Central & North were combined in the early 80’s.

    [quote comment=”297982″][quote comment=”297981″][quote comment=”297979″][quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Was busted in 2004…
    link

    …which is good, because as an Ohio boy I can’t imagine rooting for the Stillers even if my future depends on it.[/quote]
    Maybe so, but one thing we all know for sure is that every time the Phillies win the World Series in an election year, the Republican Presidential candidate wins.[/quote]

    We know that every time that one of my teams wins the championship… nevermind, it’s never come up.[/quote]

    It’s possible the “new” thing having to do with this is the winner of the MNF game the night before is a predictor. Not sure though…

    [quote comment=”297981″][quote comment=”297979″][quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Was busted in 2004…
    link

    …which is good, because as an Ohio boy I can’t imagine rooting for the Stillers even if my future depends on it.[/quote]
    Maybe so, but one thing we all know for sure is that every time the Phillies win the World Series in an election year, the Republican Presidential candidate wins.[/quote]

    But we don’t know if that applies when the final game is a two-day single header.

    [quote comment=”297979″][quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Was busted in 2004…
    link

    …which is good, because as an Ohio boy I can’t imagine rooting for the Stillers even if my future depends on it.[/quote]

    100% percent agreement here. As a Cincinnati native and Bengal fan I can’t root for the Steelers. But if we’re referring to that thing tomorrow that we don’t discuss here then I might not be sad if Clinton Portis twists an ankle and misses a few quarters.

    Congrats on the tan-box promotion Phil. As a sarcastic SOB myself, I enjoy your posts.

    I thought we were done with the army camo uni phase-guess i was wrong:
    link

    choose the game against philly

    It actually doesnt look horrible when used on a hockey uniform

    [quote comment=”297975″]

    Also there are a couple of Gator players are wearing Riddel Revo Speed. (So as #12 from Texas, not Colt, but a DB)[/quote]

    Yeah, the Horns have 5 or 6 guys wearing the Revo Speed helmet.

    [quote comment=”297988″]I thought we were done with the army camo uni phase-guess i was wrong:
    link

    choose the game against philly

    It actually doesnt look horrible when used on a hockey uniform[/quote]

    Like link for instance.

    Word coming from Redskins team sources via the Redskins fan board, is that the ‘Skins will wear all burgundy tonight. I don’t mind the monochrome look, but I don’t know about this one?! We’ll have to wait and see.

    [quote comment=”297950″]coworker just pointed out the browns and broncs are playing this thursday (nfl network…which, thanks to my cable provider, i won’t be viewing)…

    anyone wanna bet they’re gonna break out the all brown monochrome?[/quote]

    no chance. the brown pants have been mothballed for the rest of this season.

    [quote comment=”297988″]I thought we were done with the army camo uni phase-guess i was wrong:
    link

    choose the game against philly

    It actually doesnt look horrible when used on a hockey uniform[/quote]

    link, link ;)

    [quote comment=”297991″]Word coming from Redskins team sources via the Redskins fan board, is that the ‘Skins will wear all burgundy tonight. I don’t mind the monochrome look, but I don’t know about this one?! We’ll have to wait and see.[/quote]

    Would be interesting to see with the white striped socks. With the unitard look, umm….maybe not so much.

    [quote comment=”297993″][quote comment=”297988″]I thought we were done with the army camo uni phase-guess i was wrong:
    link

    choose the game against philly

    It actually doesnt look horrible when used on a hockey uniform[/quote]

    link, link ;)[/quote]

    As far as I’m concerned, camo never looks good. It’s utilitarian*, bottom-line.

    To go along with that, why do “tough guys” wear camo to look tough? If the point of camo is to make you disappear, and thus lees likely to be seen by animals (hunting) or enemies (combat), doesn’t imply that you hope to avoid conflict, and thus wimpier?

    *see also diamond plate pattern

    When at NC State (1985-89), I worked in the Sports Information office — a very cool job as an undergrad. My roommate was team manager and I walked away with some cool souvenirs from the team (including authentic jersey from Sean Green, who had transferred out, and practice tank from Bennie Bolton). I saved everything and just recently cleaned out some boxes from my basement. Found hundreds of old media guides from State and visiting teams and game programs, including the one from the 2-9-89 game against UNC and 2-12-89 game against UNLV. It contains some good photos of the Wolfpack’s ill-fated UNITARD experiment.

    Links are here:
    link
    link

    The discussion of football fields crammed into small spaces reminded me of a discussion thread I stumbled across recently on baseball-fever.com with a bunch of pics of old ballparks (Wrigley, Fenway, etc) in football configurations. Found a link to this pic of the dugout endzone at Wrigley:

    link

    The 4th page of the thread has seating charts for several fields, including Wrigley, which gives a sense of how tight some of the fields were. A lot of interesting stuff, and some cool old-time football pics. Here’s the link to the thread:

    link

    [quote comment=”297958″]For all of the Mets fans, New Era’s website has a Mets Elmer Fudd hat available for pre-order.

    link

    Two interesting points, it’s 97% wool and it’s black.[/quote]

    I’d buy one of those for the Phillies, couldn’t find it on the site. I guess they are just making them for some teams?

    [quote comment=”297993″][quote comment=”297988″]I thought we were done with the army camo uni phase-guess i was wrong:
    link

    choose the game against philly

    It actually doesnt look horrible when used on a hockey uniform[/quote]

    link, link ;)[/quote]
    Definitely not a fan of the camo unis in general, but I thought the link this year qualified as “not horrible.”

    Thumbs up? link.

    Well, to all of those who hate the Brewers un-tucking their uni after a victory will have to put up with it for at least one more year.

    link

    $10mil for 25 HR’s, 70 RBI’s, and a .240 avg. IT still is incredible to me how much athletes get paid to play baseball, or any other sport I guess when they don’t do a job they are capable of doing. But nevertheless I like Cam, and his clubhouse presence from what I hear is amazing. Now, we have to move on to offer CC some serious cash!

    [quote comment=”297999″][quote comment=”297993″][quote comment=”297988″]I thought we were done with the army camo uni phase-guess i was wrong:
    link

    choose the game against philly

    It actually doesnt look horrible when used on a hockey uniform[/quote]

    link, link ;)[/quote]
    Definitely not a fan of the camo unis in general, but I thought the link this year qualified as “not horrible.”

    Thumbs up? link.[/quote]

    And the minor league baseball team in Nashua, NH and the summer collegiate baseball team in Pittsfield, MA might be going to camo uniforms full-time next year when they both play as the “American Defenders.”

    Will LI Phil begin to use proper capitalization and punctuation? Though I’ve always enjoyed his insight, I’ve always felt it would come off better if he capitalized and punctuated his posts. Uniwatching is about paying attention to details and the English language should be not exception.

    [quote comment=”298005″]Comments section is a wash, but at least in regular posts?[/quote]

    Yes. In my job (yes, I actually have one), I do a tremendous amount of writing, and I am fully required to use capitalization and punctuation. I even put two spaces after a period and a double space between paragraphs.

    When I am writing the weekend “lead” for this blog, I will use proper diction, punctuation and spelling. However, writing ‘in the comments’ is, stylistically, a release from that structure for me. I prefer the lower case, elipses and cetera.

    k? ;)

    [quote comment=”297997″]Found a link to this pic of the dugout endzone at Wrigley:

    link
    [/quote]
    That’s about the best pic so far. I found link with what appears to be the dugout padding in the background. Maybe.

    [quote comment=”297877″][quote comment=”297876″]Is it just me or is there not nearly enough room in the back of the endzone in that west virginia tech photo? Look out for that wall!!!![/quote]

    Yikes. If that were in Green Bay, players would do the “Lambeau Splat”.[/quote]
    Or the “Marshall Snap”.
    link

    [quote comment=”297900″]”Business Administration”: perhaps the greatest hockey sweater of all time? What a gem!

    Meanwhile, Wisconsin did themselves a favor by removing the border around the letters. It looks sooo much better. Somebody there understands the importance of small details.[/quote]

    That is a “back to the future” look for Wisconsin. They never outlined their letters until about the late 80s I would say. That is the classic Wisconsin hockey uniform right there.

    Is Rodney Stuckey going to have to give up his number 3 to AI now? Allen’s only going to be there for this year, but there have been precedents in this situation. I recall the other Andre Iguodala giving up number 4 his rookie year to Chris Webber, and Iggy stuck with his current number 9 ever since. If Iverson stays this year only, do you think Stuckey will go back to #3? I don’t remember anybody else reverting back to an old number once they switched.

    I’m more concerned about what Billups will wear for the Nuggets. JR Smith already wears Billups’#1, which means Billups could go to his #4 from college, which is taken by K-Mart. Although I could see K-Mart going back to 6

    [quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    I’m a Redskins Fan, but I’m not a “redskins fan”. Reverse the “curse” if you will.

    [quote comment=”297996″]When at NC State (1985-89), I worked in the Sports Information office — a very cool job as an undergrad. My roommate was team manager and I walked away with some cool souvenirs from the team (including authentic jersey from Sean Green, who had transferred out, and practice tank from Bennie Bolton). I saved everything and just recently cleaned out some boxes from my basement. Found hundreds of old media guides from State and visiting teams and game programs, including the one from the 2-9-89 game against UNC and 2-12-89 game against UNLV. It contains some good photos of the Wolfpack’s ill-fated UNITARD experiment.

    Links are here:
    link
    link

    Pic 1: Beautiful pic of Nike Air Force 3’s
    Check out Cheney in the background

    [quote comment=”297979″][quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Was busted in 2004…
    link

    …which is good, because as an Ohio boy I can’t imagine rooting for the Stillers even if my future depends on it.[/quote]

    The statistic still stands:

    For the final home game for every election year that that the incumbent is not on the ballot the redskins have correctly predicted the outcome of the ellection.

    If the ‘Skins lose, there is a change in party. If the win, the incumbent party stays.

    ‘Skins to wear burgundy on burgundy tonight (from Redskins.com):

    — BURGUNDY ON BURGUNDY!

    It has finally happened. The Redskins are expected to wear burgundy pants and burgundy jerseys for Monday night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    It’s the first time–at least in recent memory–that the team has worn burgundy on burgundy uniforms.

    Players have talked about wearing burgundy on burgundy for years, and earlier this season Jim Zorn indicated it would be a possibility for cold weather games.

    [quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Redskins fan here!

    [quote comment=”297975″][quote comment=”297965″]I don’t know if it’s related to the Florida players, but I remember from my middle school days that the rapper Nelly sometimes wore a band-aid on his cheek: link[/quote]
    Some of those Gator players are wearing these, and not band-aids.
    link

    Also there are a couple of Gator players are wearing Riddel Revo Speed. (So as #12 from Texas, not Colt, but a DB)[/quote]

    When it comes to Band-Aids and UW, there is one man that bears reckoning:

    link

    Warning: soccer-related.

    New National Indoor Soccer League logo:

    link

    (As an aside, God, I hate it when sometmies you can link something inside a sentence and sometimes you can’t, with no rhyme or reason.)

    [quote comment=”298018″]’Skins to wear burgundy on burgundy tonight (from Redskins.com):

    — BURGUNDY ON BURGUNDY!

    It has finally happened. The Redskins are expected to wear burgundy pants and burgundy jerseys for Monday night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    It’s the first time–at least in recent memory–that the team has worn burgundy on burgundy uniforms.

    Players have talked about wearing burgundy on burgundy for years, and earlier this season Jim Zorn indicated it would be a possibility for cold weather games.[/quote]

    I don’t see this working out well…their colors are outdated as are the finishes of the jerseys and pants.

    I have often remarked that this is a team in need of a serious uni-overhaul.

    Lucky for them, they have a GREAT one collecting dust:

    link

    [quote comment=”298024″][quote comment=”298018″]’Skins to wear burgundy on burgundy tonight (from Redskins.com):

    — BURGUNDY ON BURGUNDY!

    It has finally happened. The Redskins are expected to wear burgundy pants and burgundy jerseys for Monday night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    It’s the first time–at least in recent memory–that the team has worn burgundy on burgundy uniforms.

    Players have talked about wearing burgundy on burgundy for years, and earlier this season Jim Zorn indicated it would be a possibility for cold weather games.[/quote]

    I don’t see this working out well…their colors are outdated as are the finishes of the jerseys and pants.

    I have often remarked that this is a team in need of a serious uni-overhaul.

    Lucky for them, they have a GREAT one collecting dust:

    link

    The uni, not Wuerffel!

    [quote comment=”298020″][quote comment=”297976″]just out of curiosity …

    who’s a “redskin fan” tonight? (has a bearing on something happening tomorrow)[/quote]

    Redskins fan here![/quote]

    Isn’t there also a statistic concerning elections and Kentucky basketball as well?

    [quote comment=”298025″][quote comment=”298024″][quote comment=”298018″]’Skins to wear burgundy on burgundy tonight (from Redskins.com):

    — BURGUNDY ON BURGUNDY!

    It has finally happened. The Redskins are expected to wear burgundy pants and burgundy jerseys for Monday night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    It’s the first time–at least in recent memory–that the team has worn burgundy on burgundy uniforms.

    Players have talked about wearing burgundy on burgundy for years, and earlier this season Jim Zorn indicated it would be a possibility for cold weather games.[/quote]

    I don’t see this working out well…their colors are outdated as are the finishes of the jerseys and pants.

    I have often remarked that this is a team in need of a serious uni-overhaul.

    Lucky for them, they have a GREAT one collecting dust:

    link

    The uni, not Wuerffel![/quote]

    That is, by far, much better than the throwbacks they wear from the early 1960s with the godawful yellow helmets and the “R” logo.

    [quote comment=”298027″][quote comment=”298025″][quote comment=”298024″][quote comment=”298018″]’Skins to wear burgundy on burgundy tonight (from Redskins.com):

    — BURGUNDY ON BURGUNDY!

    It has finally happened. The Redskins are expected to wear burgundy pants and burgundy jerseys for Monday night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    It’s the first time–at least in recent memory–that the team has worn burgundy on burgundy uniforms.

    Players have talked about wearing burgundy on burgundy for years, and earlier this season Jim Zorn indicated it would be a possibility for cold weather games.[/quote]

    I don’t see this working out well…their colors are outdated as are the finishes of the jerseys and pants.

    I have often remarked that this is a team in need of a serious uni-overhaul.

    Lucky for them, they have a GREAT one collecting dust:

    link

    The uni, not Wuerffel![/quote]

    That is, by far, much better than the throwbacks they wear from the early 1960s with the godawful yellow helmets and the “R” logo.[/quote]

    i, for one, would love love love to see them go back to the link uni shown in the RIP johnny u SI cover

    [quote comment=”298028″][quote comment=”298027″][quote comment=”298025″][quote comment=”298024″][quote comment=”298018″]’Skins to wear burgundy on burgundy tonight (from Redskins.com):

    — BURGUNDY ON BURGUNDY!

    It has finally happened. The Redskins are expected to wear burgundy pants and burgundy jerseys for Monday night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    It’s the first time–at least in recent memory–that the team has worn burgundy on burgundy uniforms.

    Players have talked about wearing burgundy on burgundy for years, and earlier this season Jim Zorn indicated it would be a possibility for cold weather games.[/quote]

    I don’t see this working out well…their colors are outdated as are the finishes of the jerseys and pants.

    I have often remarked that this is a team in need of a serious uni-overhaul.

    Lucky for them, they have a GREAT one collecting dust:

    link

    The uni, not Wuerffel![/quote]

    That is, by far, much better than the throwbacks they wear from the early 1960s with the godawful yellow helmets and the “R” logo.[/quote]

    i, for one, would love love love to see them go back to the link uni shown in the RIP johnny u SI cover[/quote]

    I still have that magazine, great picture on the cover for both teams. But I disagree with the overall.

    I think they shouldn’t be wearing burgundy on burgundy (although i’ve been itching to see it for years) but if they want a throwback, it should be based off this
    link
    Though I would like to see the feather going up the back of the helmet.

    Suprised that I haven’t seen a variation on this story yet:

    link

    Basically, the IOC, after telling Brazil and Argentina that they couldn’t wear their national badges on their soccer uniforms at the Olympics is now cracking down on hockey as well – starting with making it clear that Canada won’t be able to wear the “skater in red / black leaf” logo that’s been in use for the national team at all levels since the early 1990s (and is in fact the official logo of Hockey Canada, which is a non-Olympic organisation).

    Of course, this is likely to not stop at Canada, as every IIHF nation has its own crest that doesn’t really have anything to do with the Olympic team as a whole and are likely to be replaced by the IOC’s desired ‘clean’ uniforms.

    I can only imagine that those will likely resemble the hockey equivalent of the horrifically bland basketball jerseys used in recent Olympics, that featured no individuality for the teams.

    (This is actually broader than just hockey, though – the Canadian ski team has been wearing yellow bodysuits for as long as I’ve been alive, and they’re apparently going to have to change to the red / white / black scheme).

    Anyway, just wanted to bring it up, since it’s likely going to wind up being a big deal here.

    [quote comment=”298027″][quote comment=”298025″][quote comment=”298024″][quote comment=”298018″]’Skins to wear burgundy on burgundy tonight (from Redskins.com):

    — BURGUNDY ON BURGUNDY!

    It has finally happened. The Redskins are expected to wear burgundy pants and burgundy jerseys for Monday night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    It’s the first time–at least in recent memory–that the team has worn burgundy on burgundy uniforms.

    Players have talked about wearing burgundy on burgundy for years, and earlier this season Jim Zorn indicated it would be a possibility for cold weather games.[/quote]

    I don’t see this working out well…their colors are outdated as are the finishes of the jerseys and pants.

    I have often remarked that this is a team in need of a serious uni-overhaul.

    Lucky for them, they have a GREAT one collecting dust:

    link

    The uni, not Wuerffel![/quote]

    That is, by far, much better than the throwbacks they wear from the early 1960s with the godawful yellow helmets and the “R” logo.[/quote]

    I have to disagree…I LOVED that look, and combined with the Giants, that was a great looking game.

    link

    As for the feather, I could stand to see that, although I loved the Gibbs-era Stylized R:

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”298033″]While looking for more pics of the Skins throwbacks, lookie what I found:

    link
    Lemme guess. He’s wearing Air Zoom Thrust WagonQueenFamilyTruckster AutoFocus Lites?

    [quote comment=”298032″]What happens if the Redskins game gets rained out?

    Is the game decided by a group of lawyers?

    ;-)[/quote]

    too bad eddie guns isn’t working the game…

    (insert ed hochuli/chuck norris fact here)

    [quote comment=”298034″][quote comment=”298033″]While looking for more pics of the Skins throwbacks, lookie what I found:

    link
    Lemme guess. He’s wearing Air Zoom Thrust WagonQueenFamilyTruckster AutoFocus Lites?[/quote]

    POST OF THE DAY!

    /btw, jth…did you draw that “thing” that’s in your URI?

    [quote comment=”298037″][quote comment=”298034″][quote comment=”298033″]While looking for more pics of the Skins throwbacks, lookie what I found:

    link
    Lemme guess. He’s wearing Air Zoom Thrust WagonQueenFamilyTruckster AutoFocus Lites?[/quote]

    POST OF THE DAY!

    /btw, jth…did you draw that “thing” that’s in your URI?[/quote]
    No, but if I were to put something together in Photoshop, it might look like that.

    My 4-year-old son did it. It’s a picture of me wearing a “hotel shirt.” I’m still not quite sure if that means the shirt is made out of a hotel or if it’s just got a hotel graphic on it.

    You know, some of these marathon runners campaign shirts are sorta screwy…

    Did you swim to the finish?
    link

    Is she wearing a sports bra that says “President”?
    link

    Whats with the French flag?
    link

    Interesting NOB, but where’s the prototypical “08”?
    link

    …dat, dat..dats all i’m tryin da say!

    [quote comment=”298034″][quote comment=”298033″]While looking for more pics of the Skins throwbacks, lookie what I found:

    link
    Lemme guess. He’s wearing Air Zoom Thrust WagonQueenFamilyTruckster AutoFocus Lites?[/quote]

    JTH, c’mon…that was borderline rude!
    However, it was pretty funny!

    Although I usually point out uni-related footwear, this was simply providing a look at two beautiful uniforms in action!

    New Virginia Tech basketball jersey

    put me down as disappointed… link

    no, there is no reason for Virginia and Tech to be different colors… the whites are the same, cept they only say ‘HOKIES’ above the number

    [quote comment=”297988″]I thought we were done with the army camo uni phase-guess i was wrong:
    link

    choose the game against philly

    It actually doesnt look horrible when used on a hockey uniform[/quote]

    This is actually the Bears’ second alternate sweater this year. Last week, they wore Pink Warm-Up Jerseys for Breast Cancer night at the arena.

    [quote comment=”298044″]Skins in all burgundy![/quote]

    Why? Why, oh why, would they do that?

    Looks AWFUL!!

    skins look awful!!

    btw congrats phil.. you look nothing like i imagined.. who knew you were a met’s fan lol

    [quote comment=”298048″][quote comment=”298044″]Skins in all burgundy![/quote]

    Why? Why, oh why, would they do that?

    Looks AWFUL!![/quote]

    Have they ever done this before? I certainly can’t remember it.

    Awful isn’t even the right word. There are other descriptions which have been frowned on here, but they wrap up my impressions of the burgundy on burgundy pretty accurately *ack*

    PLEASE SOMEBODY STOP THIS!!!!!
    How can the SKINS go out and play in a monochrome uniform????? such a classic uniform!!!!!!!
    they are doing everything wrong!!!! who plans this? reebook?
    ugggghhhh…

    [quote comment=”298050″][quote comment=”298048″][quote comment=”298044″]Skins in all burgundy![/quote]

    Why? Why, oh why, would they do that?

    Looks AWFUL!![/quote]

    Have they ever done this before? I certainly can’t remember it.[/quote]

    I’ve been a Skins fan for 30+ years and I’ve never seen this uni-combo. Hopefully, never will again after tonight.

    [quote comment=”298048″][quote comment=”298044″]Skins in all burgundy![/quote]

    Why? Why, oh why, would they do that?

    Looks AWFUL!![/quote]

    Think the white socks would mitigate it some.
    But they do kinda look like the team from over at the Winery College, don’t they. Y’know, the Napa Valley Fighting Pinots?

    if the stripes on the pants followed up the jersey it would create some flow, but not even that

    Redskins:

    The white-on-white was a surprise a few years back when they first did that. I didn’t like it at first, but its grown on me.

    Burgundy-on-burgundy never will.

    Sadly, if they win, they’ll make a point to tie it to the unis and will break them out again.

    Dikembe Mutombo once said: “it’s hard to play good when you look so bad (in reference to the nuggets uniform)”

    Just when you have those classic retro uniforms they go out like this… It’s not college…
    awful, dont do this again…

    Really thought the all-burgundy might not be half-bad. But, then again, all-maroon looks lousy on Gophers so guess should have known.

    What we have here is trendiness run amuck.

    LI Phil (Congrats, btw) is right, as if we didn’t already know. Please-oh-please, Uni-Gods, deliver us from the Browns in all brown.

    What color are Carlos Rogers’ shoes? Are they gold or the orange from auburn? Havin’ troubles at my old age

    [quote comment=”298049″]
    btw congrats phil.. you look nothing like i imagined.. who knew you were a met’s fan lol[/quote]

    thanks to ALL who wished me well, i really appreciate it and hope to live up to the lofty standards set by messrs. grez gerez grzegorek and redemske

    btw…that pic paul used is 2 years old…taken on the night of the seventh game of the 2006 LCS (we all know how that turned out)…and the other one was taken the night the mets clinched the east in 06…sigh…

    that was 20 lbs and 2 years ago…click on “LI Phil” in my user name to see the ‘new and better’ version (unlike the mets)

    /btw…i have offered my services to jerry jones…look for me to start and get TO ten grabs in 2 weeks

    All Burgundy is a shock but when was the last time they wore burgundy jerseys at home regardless of the pants. Also, I thounk I saw a raised Redskins script “R” on Jason Campbell’s nose bumper. Has that always been there?

    [quote comment=”298059″]What color are Carlos Rogers’ shoes? Are they gold or the orange from auburn? Havin’ troubles at my old age[/quote]

    Kornheiser just answered your question: Gold shoes

    I kinda dig the monochrome burgun… Good God, I can’t even finish that sentence. This is just not a good thing.

    Ladies and gentlemen, if ever there was a case against watching sports in HD, tonight is that night. Viva la black & white!

    [quote comment=”298059″]What color are Carlos Rogers’ shoes? Are they gold or the orange from auburn? Havin’ troubles at my old age[/quote]

    They’re gold, Kornheiser and Jaws were talking about it a moment ago.

    [quote comment=”298064″]All Burgundy is a shock but when was the last time they wore burgundy jerseys at home regardless of the pants. Also, I thounk I saw a raised Redskins script “R” on Jason Campbell’s nose bumper. Has that always been there?[/quote]

    They’ve had em I believe since 04, but I dont have the proof to back it up. It’s a Gibbs thing. They’ve at least had them all this year.

    Interestingly enough, I’m working on reproducing a beer helmet as one of our readers did here:link

    and they sent me one of the script R’s and the Green Dot to boot!

    [quote comment=”298064″]All Burgundy is a shock but when was the last time they wore burgundy jerseys at home regardless of the pants. Also, I thounk I saw a raised Redskins script “R” on Jason Campbell’s nose bumper. Has that always been there?[/quote]

    Under Zorn, they are to wear the white jerseys at home for the first 4 games, then the burgundy for the last 4.

    Under Schottenheimer (2001), I think they wore the burgundy jerseys as the primary.

    [quote]Under Zorn, they are to wear the white jerseys at home for the first 4 games, then the burgundy for the last 4.[/quote]

    wasn’t that the pants? as in…first four home games, white trou, and second four, burgundy?

    /or did i have that confused with the jerseys?

    Guy at espn wants to “track down” the Redksins record in that combination.

    Here it is: At 8:53 p.m CST, they’re ahead 6-3.

    First time ever in that combo.

    [quote comment=”298065″][quote comment=”298059″]What color are Carlos Rogers’ shoes? Are they gold or the orange from auburn? Havin’ troubles at my old age[/quote]

    Kornheiser just answered your question: Gold shoes[/quote]

    Between the time when Jaws and Kornheiser were focused on his shoes and when he just dropped a potential pick-6, Carlos Rogers got a heavy dose of black tape over his gold kicks.

    speaking of the hershey bears…best uniform idea….ever? I remeber seeing pics of it because i was always a bears fan, but i just realized it was in a uni watch article on espn four years ago.

    link

    [quote comment=”298069″][quote]Under Zorn, they are to wear the white jerseys at home for the first 4 games, then the burgundy for the last 4.[/quote]

    wasn’t that the pants? as in…first four home games, white trou, and second four, burgundy?

    /or did i have that confused with the jerseys?[/quote]

    This link with the Redskins equipment manager states:

    Along those lines, Gibbs seemed to prefer the white jersey with the burgundy pants. Some players have claimed to prefer the burgundy jerseys with white pants. Any idea how things will go this year?

    We’ll be wearing the white jerseys with the burgundy pants at home until, I think, the Pittsburgh game. After that, burgundy with white pants. Coach Zorn thinks it will help with the heat. For away games, we’re at the mercy of the home team – like Dallas always wears white at home, so we always wear the burgundy in Dallas.

    Not sure if Carlos Rogers’ shoes will get him a bill from the NFL, but Fred Smoot’s socks definitely will.

    Smoot is not wearing his whites, just the burgundy with black ankle tape. That’s an automatic $5,000 from the NFL under the “look-at-me” rule.

    [quote comment=”297991″]Word coming from Redskins team sources via the Redskins fan board, is that the ‘Skins will wear all burgundy tonight. I don’t mind the monochrome look, but I don’t know about this one?! We’ll have to wait and see.[/quote]
    I’m seeing it now and am aghast. Keep in mind, this trend was started by college teams like Oregon and Northwestern when they were crummy programs. I never expected the ‘Skins (who used to wear white jerseys at home) to join in on it.

    If the team must die to save the uniform, then GO STEELERS. But seriously, I didn’t have much hope for tonight and was just disgusted at the combo. Hopefully, these will be associated with tonight’s game and will be discarded accordingly.

    Funny, when the Skins debuted (in the regular season) the 2002 special edition unis, it was a Monday night vs. a PA team (Iggles) and got thoroughly thumped. That was the famous “Spurrier Flapping Lips” game.

    Don’t have my little chart with me tonight but I believe the last time they word burgundy at home was in 2003 vs. Dallas. They also wore the 2002 S.E. set in 2003 vs. Saints.

    [quote comment=”297938″]still nothing concrete on that wrigley endzone dugout, but link (and some of those other vids may have better shots…i just don’t have the time to check em all right now)…
    [/quote]

    in case some of you didn’t notice, that cardinal kicker was pat summerall and the bears receiver was harlon hill. hill is notable for having the NCAA D2 version of the heisman named after him.

    link

    btw…big Bryan and L.I. Phil fan here.

    i liked the all burgundy a lot. i know the shine of the pants didnt match the jersey well, but still it was something different (and im sick of the “oh goodness no… we cant do anything different” approach that gets so much hype here).
    didnt matter tho… it was proven that black & gold > burgundy & gold, and thats all that matters.

    re: Band-Aids

    Don’t forget link. During his season-and-a-half with the Rockets, I remember the location of each game’s Band-Aid being a regular curiosity. One night on the shin, the next on an elbow, tomorrow maybe on the neck… link mentions the origin of his superstition.

    [quote comment=”298079″]i liked the all burgundy a lot. i know the shine of the pants didnt match the jersey well, but still it was something different (and im sick of the “oh goodness no… we cant do anything different” approach that gets so much hype here).
    didnt matter tho… it was proven that black & gold > burgundy & gold, and thats all that matters.[/quote]

    Different good is fine with most of us.
    Different bad usually isn’t.
    And you may not like “our approach” but you’d better learn to love it ’cause it’s not going anywhere. Hope you’re feeling better soon.

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