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The Ricko Files, Vol. 7

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Been awhile since we’ve taken a stroll down Ricko Boulevard. Without further ado:

• One question that frequently comes up in the comments is whether the Astros’ tequila sunrise design came in separate home and road versions, or if there was just one — white — version. Answer: Just one, as you can see in these white-uni shots taken at Wrigley.

• Check out these super-cool chevron-patterned shoulders worn by West Virginia in 1961.

• Good view here of Colorado wearing black and silver.

• Speaking of Colorado, here’s a prototype helmet that never made it onto the field, from the disastrous Chuck Fairbanks era.

• Anyone know why Alabama wore gray helmets against USC in 1971?

Vertically striped sock alert! “That’s Bloomington Lincoln High in 1965 or so,” says Ricko. Note the exterior-padded helmet on the tackler, too. And here’s another shot of Lincoln.

• We’ve all seen football plays diagrammed with Xs and Os. But how about with little plastic models? “That’s from SI, Dec. 24, 1956,” says Ricko. “It’s one of six full-page B&W photos that used these tabletop figures to ‘illustrate’ a key play in each of the six upcoming Jan.1 bowl games. I have them all; this one’s for the Rose Bowl, Iowa vs. Oregon St. The unis had nothing to do with the teams, with the same set of figures used for all six.”

• Always interesting to see Dr. J as a Virginia Squire.

• Here’s Spider Lockhart wearing white shoes in 1970, long before the NFL’s white-shod era.

• Speaking of footwear colors, check out these shots of Joe Washington wearing silver while playing for Oklahoma (is that a training camp strip of name tape on the TCU helmet?) and the Chargers (yes, FNOB, already noted in last week’s ESPN column).

• And here’s one Ricko showed me when I visited his pad two weeks ago: Check out the front-facing TV numbers worn by the Ottawa Rough Riders in 1966.

Speaking of my visit to Ricko World HQ, I hope to share more images and info from that summit meeting shortly. As I mentioned last week, I’m thinking Ricko might be ESPN material, so for now I don’t wanna spill all the beans here on this site, because I might wanna use them over on Page 2. Final decision on this should come in another week or two — will advise.

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Sopel Sock Update: Yesterday’s item about Brent Sopel’s low-striped socks prompted lots of interesting responses:

• From Thomas Clark (reprinted from yesterday’s comments): “Many of my college teammates did the same thing (and myself to a lesser extent) because with fitted ankles on hockey socks, the bottoms can be a bit annoying. So we pulled them down to create a more comfortable feel around the upper ankle/lower calf.”

• From Jeff P (ditto): “The old CCM socks were very loose around the pad. I could never wear them myself — I wear something by Twin City or Pearsox, because they’re much tighter and help hold the pad in place. But a lot of guys like the really loose feeling. When the Edge was introduced, socks became a lot tighter, so Sopel probably asks for a couple sizes up to get it looser (regular joes can’t get them in sizes, but pros get Small, Medium, large, XL and so on). And since the Velcro patch to hold it up is at a fixed location, he has to take the extra length off at the bottom. So in effect, this is the baggy baseball pants of hockey. And as for Sopel’s pre-Reebok days, he was probably cutting off the elastic cuff at the bottom.”

• From JD Patch: “I wear my socks the same way, bunched at the bottom. For me, it’s purely habit, I wear my shinguards over the tongues of my skate boots. I suppose it’s more vanity than anything else — I don’t want my shinguards showing at the base if my socks pull up during the course of the game. On a somewhat related note, the new Reebok socks are grade-A crap — cheaply made and not especially more breathable, as Reebok likes to claim.”

• From James Paterson: “I think the reason lies precisely within Garrett Malcolm’s comment that ‘it makes his calves look wide and trunk-like.’ As a defenseman, Sopel has to block shots. But if the shooter thinks Sopel’s legs look wider, he may alter his shot or pass the puck. So while it does look stupid, in this case form COULD follow function.”

• From Jesse Swanko: “In the old days, hockey socks had actual stirrups and you would wear them inside your skates with the tongue of the boot sticking out in the front over your shinguard. That means you put your shinguards on first, then your socks, then your pants (breezers), and then your skates on last over everything. That is how I still wear mine, and so does Alexei Kovalev on the Habs. Now, however, most players put their skates on first before their shinguards and socks. They tighten the tongue down against their shin, then put the shinguard on, then the socks, and the breezers last. That’s why most new breezers have those zippers inside the thighs, so you can loosen them to get them over your skates. But today’s hockey socks have elastic on the bottom so you can slide them down over your skate (like pulling jeans over cowboy boots). However, the elastic is usually too tight, so most players cut if off entirely and just make a ragged edge on the bottom so it fits looser. A lot of players on my college team did that, which was hell on the equipment guy having to buy new socks at the end of every year. Plus the new Reebok socks are more or less Spandex, so they’re really tight around the pads, giving the ‘robocop’ look. So if Sopel wears extra-thick shinguards or some type of ankle protection under his skates, he would need to cut his socks further up the taper to reach an area wide enough to fit over everything. Plus defensemen who block a lot of shots, like Chris Pronger, wear a dummy boot over their skate for added protection. I don’t think Sopel does this, but if he did that would also require cutting the elastic off to fit over it.”

• From Chaz Noerenberg: “Many other players in addition to Sopel have done this. Michael Handzus [as seen with the Kings, Blues, and Blackhawks] and Pavol Demitra [Blues and Wild] come to mind right away.” (For the record, reader Joe Barker, mentioned these same two players, and Kyle Somerville mentioned Garnet Exelby, although his stripes don’t look that low.)

Raffle Results: The winner of the Syracuse helmet is Chad Gilman, who should contact me asap to claim his prize. Congrats to him, and thanks to all who entered. More raffles coming soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: So these are the socks that reportedly got Ike Taylor fined a few weeks back. All I can say is, if they’re fining everyone who wears low whites like that, they must have a big pile of cash by now. … Meanwhile, Chris Hilf notes that Hines Ward wore gold shoelaces in that game. … Potentially awesome NOB news, but they’ll probably just handle it the way they did in the preseason. … Nobody likes a tease, but I’ll be one anyway: I spent about two hours yesterday at the NBA offices, where I learned about all sorts of interesting uni-related initiatives for this season (most of which I’ll be able to share in my season-preview column next week, although a few are embargoed for another month or two) and next season (sorry, that stuff’s all off the record). … Brian Birkhofer won the $50,000 top prize at last weekends Dirt Track World Championship, and Scott Johnson reports that Birkhofer’s a big Steelers fan and has some Steelers elements on his driving suit. … The Islanders will wear pink tape on their sticks on Thursday, and the coaching staff will wearing “Hockey Fights” cancer neckties and pins. Details here. … This probably isn’t Nike’s fault, at least not completely, but let’s blame it on them anyway cuz it’s so much fun. … Yesterday I mentioned that the Tommie Agee marker at Shea appeared to have been successfully excavated. That led pseudonymous commenter Union Jack to opine, “Looks likely that someone figured out during demo that the stairs landing was hollow, not solid concrete. This probably made extraction feasible (can you imagine trying to carve away a slab if it were solid?).” I spoke with concessionaire Barry Meisel yesterday, and he basically confirmed that. “We were surprised,” he told me. “It came out in one piece really easily, no problem.” He thinks he has a buyer for it, too. … The Nationals are sponsoring a pumpkin carving contest (with thanks to Mark Kluczynski). … The Vero Beach Devil Rays (Tampa’s single-A affiliate) are changing their name and location, and will now be known as the Port Charlotte Stone Crabs. No logo or uni design yet, but they should be good, since stone crabs are so cool-looking (with thanks to Jeff Mayer). … Did you see Mike Smith’s mask on Saturday? Get this — it was a promotional stunt to promote the latest splatterfest flick. Smith was apparently so disgusted by this that he chose to go maskless in protest (with thanks to Dane Drutis). … Here’s the latest obligatory article-plus-video about the endearingly crabby underpaid middle-aged seamstresses who sew patches on uniforms for millionaire athletes (thanks to Mike Edgerley). … Why would you pair a red jersey with an orange helmet? That’s Cherokee High in New Jersey, as sent by Doug Keklak (who also sent this hyphenated NOB shot of LaRod Stephens-Howling). … Under Armour is going to sponsor the NFL combine, which would seem to create a conflict with Reebok (courtesy of Brinke Guthrie). … Bill Heatley has come up with the best photos yet of the black distance numerals that were used on Shea Stadium’s outfield wall for the first homestand of 1967. He took these shots on April 20th, 1967, which was when Tom Seaver got his first career victory.

 

203 comments to The Ricko Files, Vol. 7

  • DJ | October 22, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    Those Alabama helmets were white; I think the plastic coating on them makes them look off-white in the poor lighting at the LA Coliseum circa 1971.

  • Mike | October 22, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    Olie Kolzig helps to promote Saw V and help Athletes Against Autism.
    http://blogs.tampaba...

  • =bg= | October 22, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Hockey goalies can go maskless?

  • Jordan Sogn | October 22, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    Love the Joe Washington reference…not only the shoes, but the wicked old school facemask. Joe asked Barry Switzer if he could wear silver shoes while OU was recruiting him. Switzer said he could wear pink he kept running like that…He later referred to Joe’s running style as “smoke through a key-hole”.

  • Jason Gomez | October 22, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    You know the next step is for Under Armour to replace Reebok as NFL apparel company…which wouldnt be that bad, their logo is friendly on the eyes.

  • Like the River | October 22, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    According to Jim Tressel yesterday at his press conference, all the coaches on Saturday will be wearing arm bands….

    “This weekend across the nation is Coats to Cure MD program sponsored by the American Football Coaches Association. There’s a rare form of muscular dystrophy that strikes mostly males and mostly young males and so every coach is going to wear a little arm band on the side line just to raise awareness. It’s an initiative that the American Football Coaches Association has joined in with and so that’s going to be part of nearly every coach’s wardrobe on the side line.”

    and there is going to be a red(scarlet) out for the OSU vs PSU game.

    “And speaking of wardrobes, we wanted to make sure we made it loud and clear that we need to be wearing red on Saturday. We need to make that place a sea of red.”

  • Jeff P | October 22, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”296078″]Hockey goalies can go maskless?[/quote]
    It was a joke. Play can continue if the mask comes off for a little bit, as happened in that photo. But they can’t go without a mask.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”296078″]Hockey goalies can go maskless?[/quote]

    that sounds like a great idea

    *rolls eyes*

  • Dane | October 22, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”296082″][quote comment=”296078″]Hockey goalies can go maskless?[/quote]
    It was a joke. Play can continue if the mask comes off for a little bit, as happened in that photo. But they can’t go without a mask.[/quote]

    Actually, the referee is supposed to stop play immediately when the goalie mask comes off.

  • DW | October 22, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    The “million dollar scoreboard” at Big Shea has bitten the dust. These and more pix by WCBS-880 chopper guy Tommy K in the link …
    http://www.wcbs880.c...

  • Geeman | October 22, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    1. As for the Astros’ uniforms: If you look at photos from the 1986 N.L. playoffs, it appears that the Astros’ road uniforms, with the modified sunrise on the shoulders, are white too.

    http://i.cdn.turner....

    2. Alabama did wear white helmets and white shoes in 1983 or so, with Ray Perkins as the coach.

  • Jeff P | October 22, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”296085″][quote comment=”296082″][quote comment=”296078″]Hockey goalies can go maskless?[/quote]
    It was a joke. Play can continue if the mask comes off for a little bit, as happened in that photo. But they can’t go without a mask.[/quote]

    Actually, the referee is supposed to stop play immediately when the goalie mask comes off.[/quote]
    Perhaps it was gloves and such I was thinking of. That must be it.

  • Kenny | October 22, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    FNOB alert: David Young, a 2004 2nd round draft pick of the Seattle SuperSonics who never played in the NBA, now plays in Japan for the Aisin Sea Horses and has decided to go FNOB although there are no other players named “Young” on his team or in the league for that matter. You can see a picture of this on this page (very right picture on the fourth row from top): http://jbl.or.jp/pho...

  • Johnny O | October 22, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    Speaking of pumpkins… if you want to support the Brew Crew this Halloween, and see their sweet ball-in-glove logo on a pumpkin, you can. Just go here for the stencil from brewers.com

    http://milwaukee.bre...

  • Kenny | October 22, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    Sorry for all the posts, but on the same page: http://jbl.or.jp/pho..., you can see former UCLA standout and one-time Vancouver Grizzlies forward J.R. Henderson’s NOB (second from top row, very left picture). He now has Japanese citizenship and goes by the name, J.R. Sakuragi and has “J. Sakuragi” on the back of his uniform.

  • interlockingtc | October 22, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    What if aliens landed on earth and the first thing they saw was a stone crab?

  • Johnny O | October 22, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    Question for the Uni Watch faithful. Not too long ago (maybe a year), someone linked a helmet website that had every single helmet imaginable on it, including High School teams, the XFL, and even weird ones like what the MLB, NHL, and NBA teams would have if they had a football helmet. It also had some cool personal renditions by the artist of the website on what he would do with some NFL helmets. Any help on that link?

  • Jon | October 22, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    From yesterday, but Pace University is the Setters
    They are the Pace Setters.

  • Glen | October 22, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    • Always interesting to see Dr. J as a Virginia Squire.

    Who the Hell is VA playing?

  • adrian | October 22, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    http://www.remembert...
    The Miami Floridians

  • chance | October 22, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”296093″]What if aliens landed on earth and the first thing they saw was a stone crab?[/quote]

    Those are aliens who landed here.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    Orange and Red: Gross!

    http://farm4.static....

    http://i109.photobuc...

    Pitt: Another team that has traditionally been majority: Riddell. However, I spy many a Schutt Air XP:

    http://farm4.static....

    Oh, and some very astute and very good looking UniWatcher, noticed these pics and even posted them yesterday of those cleats of Hines Ward’s, which were originally worn for their throwback game last season:

    http://static.nfl.co...

    http://static.nfl.co...

    http://prod.static.b...

    Plus some bonuses:

    Dre Bly in whited out Jordan 3 PE:

    http://static.nfl.co...

    Seneca Wallace in some snot green Super Speed D, with some old school Zoom Turfs in the background:

    http://static.nfl.co...

    Leroy Hill? in Huarache 2k4 PE Snots:
    http://static.nfl.co...

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”296094″]Question for the Uni Watch faithful. Not too long ago (maybe a year), someone linked a helmet website that had every single helmet imaginable on it, including High School teams, the XFL, and even weird ones like what the MLB, NHL, and NBA teams would have if they had a football helmet. It also had some cool personal renditions by the artist of the website on what he would do with some NFL helmets. Any help on that link?[/quote]

    Helmet Hut
    or
    The Helmet Project

  • PK | October 22, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    RE: Olie’s SAW V Mask

    Just because he sponsors a horror movie with mask,
    doesn’t mean its a good idea…

    http://static.mycoup...

  • Kevin M. | October 22, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”296100″][quote comment=”296094″]Question for the Uni Watch faithful. Not too long ago (maybe a year), someone linked a helmet website that had every single helmet imaginable on it, including High School teams, the XFL, and even weird ones like what the MLB, NHL, and NBA teams would have if they had a football helmet. It also had some cool personal renditions by the artist of the website on what he would do with some NFL helmets. Any help on that link?[/quote]

    Helmet Hut
    or
    The Helmet Project[/quote]

    I think this is the one he is talking about.

  • PK | October 22, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    (was supposed to be in 1st post)

    This would make more sense as a promtion on a hockey mask

    http://en.wikipedia....(2009_film)

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”296091″]Speaking of pumpkins… if you want to support the Brew Crew this Halloween, and see their sweet ball-in-glove logo on a pumpkin, you can. Just go here for the stencil from brewers.com

    http://milwaukee.bre...

    Speaking of pumpkin carving:
    http://www.coasttoco...

  • devildog53 | October 22, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    Re: Alabama’s white helmets

    This is from The Helmet Project at http://www.nationalc....

    ” White-shelled helmets were used by Alabama occasionally during both the 1960s and in 1983 and 1984. According to information at the team’s web site, crimson helmets were apparently first used during the modern era for a Bowl game on December 17, 1960 vs. Texas (white helmets had been used during the 1950s), and, “At times during the 1960s, Alabama used white helmets on eligible receivers in games at night or when another team¹s helmet matched or resembled ours in color”. The team used white helmets during at least two games in 1971, vs Southern California and Houston; the Houston game was the last occasion when white helmets were used until 1983. (Source: http://www.rolltide....).

    White helmets were again used for some games in 1983 and 1984. In 1984, white helmets were used for road games and crimson ones for home games, but this scheme was apparently not in place in 1983 – Alabama used white helmets during at least one home game (vs Mississippi State). Games at LSU, at Boston College, and at Vanderbilt in 1983 are three other known instances of the white helmets having been used in 1983.”

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    This is off topic and more stadium- than uni-related, but here ya go:
    Last night on Eli Stone, there was a scene at a baseball stadium that had me shouting at the TV and my wife rolling her eyes (at me). The show takes place in San Francisco, but the scene was shot in Dodger Stadium and featured a team in Dodger-blue and white. Then there was an aerial establishing shot…of Candlestick Park, from the playoffs in ’87 or ’89 (the upper deck was full in the outfield, it was still a chain link fence, and Magowan’s new bleachers were not in place). And, finally, there was a scene in the corridors and the stadium map on the wall was of a 70’s cookie cutter stadium like the Vet or Three Rivers.

    I know that Hollywood uses Dodger Stadium as a stand in for almost any city’s ballpark, but seriously? Three different stadia? A SF team in blue and white?! If you have to shoot there, at least get the supporting details right! Yeesh!

  • PK | October 22, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    this is another good fotbal helmet site

    http://www.misterhab...

  • funk | October 22, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    I think this may be the reason Ike Taylor was fined for his socks. It was just reported a week late.

    http–media3.steelers.com-Images-spacer.gif

  • ScottyJ in WV | October 22, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    Anybody see the Temple-Ohio game last night, or was it just me?? Thought so.

    In that case, you missed a very good looking game from a uniform standpoint. Love Temple’s pant stripes!

    Unfortunately, I lack the Googling skill to find a good photo of said game. If any of my fellow Uni Watchers could lend a hand, I’d be appreciative.

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.

  • HD | October 22, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    I work for the athletic dept. at the University of Alabama and i checked the records and those helments were white. they just might have been old and an off white color.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    Two onservations on the Joe Washington pics:

    1. He wore the type of helmet with the clear shell, correct?

    http://farm4.static....

    http://www.helmethut...
    Seems to me, the nose bumper and the crown vents closely resembles that of the more modern day Schutts.

    Also…Washington wore silever Adidas in the first pic.

    In the pic of him with the Rams,

    http://farm4.static....

    He is wearing Asics.

    Phil Knight began his shoe career by selling Onitsuka Tigers which became Asics.

    The Nike Cortez, one of their best selling shoes of all time, was originally an Asics design that Knight added the swoosh to, causing a lawsuit.

    http://www.kicksonfi...

    Nike actually plans on updating this coming year with therir comtemporary “Flywire” Technology!

    http://solecollector...

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”296110″]I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.[/quote]

    That’s because you made her watch the damn thing 43 times!

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”296111″]I work for the athletic dept. at the University of Alabama and i checked the records and those helments were white. they just might have been old and an off white color.[/quote]

    I always figured maybe was the crimson helmets given one coat of paint and the white was a little dull because of it. OR…maybe they just used a very light gray primer (which would make re-painting them crimson easier) figuring, rightly so, that it would track as white from the stands and on TV.

    It’s just that the particular photo looked…odd. And that’s why I saved it.

    —Ricko

  • Johnny O | October 22, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”296102″][quote comment=”296100″][quote comment=”296094″]Question for the Uni Watch faithful. Not too long ago (maybe a year), someone linked a helmet website that had every single helmet imaginable on it, including High School teams, the XFL, and even weird ones like what the MLB, NHL, and NBA teams would have if they had a football helmet. It also had some cool personal renditions by the artist of the website on what he would do with some NFL helmets. Any help on that link?[/quote]

    Helmet Hut
    or
    The Helmet Project[/quote]

    I think this is the one he is talking about.[/quote]

    Thanks Kevin M. That was the one I was talking about. I appreciate all the help.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”296109″]Anybody see the Temple-Ohio game last night, or was it just me?? Thought so.

    In that case, you missed a very good looking game from a uniform standpoint. Love Temple’s pant stripes!

    Unfortunately, I lack the Googling skill to find a good photo of said game. If any of my fellow Uni Watchers could lend a hand, I’d be appreciative.[/quote]

    No direct pics, but here is Temple:
    http://owlsports.cst...

    and here is Ohio:
    http://ohiobobcats.c...

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”296079″]Love the Joe Washington reference…not only the shoes, but the wicked old school facemask. Joe asked Barry Switzer if he could wear silver shoes while OU was recruiting him. Switzer said he could wear pink he kept running like that…He later referred to Joe’s running style as “smoke through a key-hole”.[/quote]

    Through the years, Washington wore different brands of silver cleats: I know of Adidas (Oklahoma), Asics (Chargers), SpotBilt & Riddell (Colts) and Brooks (Redskins). May have worn an additional brand with ‘Skins, too, but Brooks for sure.

  • Andy--01 | October 22, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    Another comment on the Joe Washington pictures. That second picture was of Kansas State, not TCU. The magazine issue is from 1974, but the helmet in question was (according to The Helmet Project) from 1972-73: http://www.nationalc...
    The 1974 version was white: http://www.nationalc...

    TCU had a similar helmet in 1966: http://www.nationalc... but their hemlets from 71-76 were silver and purple with TCU script: http://www.nationalc...
    http://www.nationalc...

    Also, in 1974, OU played K-State at home, meaning in ’73, they played them on the road (the most recent time they had played TCU was 1954). That picture is definitely from 1973 vs. K-State

  • Chad | October 22, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    using sports to hide something bad http://failblog.file...

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”296113″][quote comment=”296110″]I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.[/quote]

    That’s because you made her watch the damn thing 43 times![/quote]
    No, she was just upset that it wasn’t in HD.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”296118″]Another comment on the Joe Washington pictures. That second picture was of Kansas State, not TCU. The magazine issue is from 1974, but the helmet in question was (according to The Helmet Project) from 1972-73: http://www.nationalc...
    The 1974 version was white: http://www.nationalc...

    TCU had a similar helmet in 1966: http://www.nationalc... but their hemlets from 71-76 were silver and purple with TCU script: http://www.nationalc...
    http://www.nationalc...

    Also, in 1974, OU played K-State at home, meaning in ’73, they played them on the road (the most recent time they had played TCU was 1954). That picture is definitely from 1973 vs. K-State[/quote]

    Nice work, Andy!

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”296118″]Another comment on the Joe Washington pictures. That second picture was of Kansas State, not TCU. The magazine issue is from 1974, but the helmet in question was (according to The Helmet Project) from 1972-73: http://www.nationalc...
    The 1974 version was white: http://www.nationalc...

    TCU had a similar helmet in 1966: http://www.nationalc... but their hemlets from 71-76 were silver and purple with TCU script: http://www.nationalc...
    http://www.nationalc...

    Also, in 1974, OU played K-State at home, meaning in ’73, they played them on the road (the most recent time they had played TCU was 1954). That picture is definitely from 1973 vs. K-State[/quote]

    My bad. Shoulda realized was K-State (insert forehead slap here). No one said that photo and the cover photo were from same SI issue. K-State photo is from one of their annual College Football Preview issues, which of course would have used photos from the previous season.

  • Nicole | October 22, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    One more for the high school name conversation:

    St. Pius XI High School in Milwaukee are the Popes so the girls teams are the Lady Popes

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”296091″]Speaking of pumpkins… if you want to support the Brew Crew this Halloween, and see their sweet ball-in-glove logo on a pumpkin, you can. Just go here for the stencil from brewers.com

    http://milwaukee.bre...
    It looks like a handful of other teams are doing it, as well.

    The Twins appear to be going a different direction. Nice to see they’re getting a jump on things.

  • DDS in Texas | October 22, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    I don’t have any photographic evidence. But as a lifelong Astros fan, I know that for several years, the road uniform was like that picture above, but the white was just a little bit “off white” if that makes sense. Almost a sandy color, not gray. I am going to look but I am almost certain of it.

  • Taha | October 22, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    off topic, but seeing the Cal Ripken thing about the Port Charlotte Stone Crabs reminded me. During TBS coverage of th playoffs, I couldn’t help but notice Ripken bears a strong resemblance to Steve Wilkos, the former Jerry Springer security guy with his own talk show. Anyone else think so?

  • Michael Princip | October 22, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    Oh man, can we get an ESPN Page 2 article/interview with Joe Washington? He’s the ultimate in football uni style.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”296122″][quote comment=”296118″]Another comment on the Joe Washington pictures. That second picture was of Kansas State, not TCU. The magazine issue is from 1974, but the helmet in question was (according to The Helmet Project) from 1972-73: http://www.nationalc...
    The 1974 version was white: http://www.nationalc...

    TCU had a similar helmet in 1966: http://www.nationalc... but their hemlets from 71-76 were silver and purple with TCU script: http://www.nationalc...
    http://www.nationalc...

    Also, in 1974, OU played K-State at home, meaning in ’73, they played them on the road (the most recent time they had played TCU was 1954). That picture is definitely from 1973 vs. K-State[/quote]

    My bad. Shoulda realized was K-State (insert forehead slap here). No one said that photo and the cover photo were from same SI issue. K-State photo is from one of their annual College Football Preview issues, which of course would have used photos from the previous season.[/quote]

    Scenility is FINALLY setting in…174 years too late!

  • scott | October 22, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”296087″]1. As for the Astros’ uniforms: If you look at photos from the 1986 N.L. playoffs, it appears that the Astros’ road uniforms, with the modified sunrise on the shoulders, are white too.

    http://i.cdn.turner....
    [/quote]

    By then, the Astros were wearing an off-white road uniform. During All-Star Games, it was clearly not white, but also not as gray as the other teams.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    [quote]Scenility is FINALLY setting in…174 years too late![/quote]

    it’s “senility”

    and im as guilty of it as anyone, but lets call an end to the ‘ricko’s old’ jokes, k?

  • Andy--01 | October 22, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    No one said that photo and the cover photo were from same SI issue.

    True, it wasn’t really even implied, it was an assumption on my part. I figured that the magazine was using a file photo from a previous year, honestly.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    I’m officially done with the KNICKS…LOOK AT MARBURY”S HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    The Definition of Logo Creep!

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”296129″][quote comment=”296087″]1. As for the Astros’ uniforms: If you look at photos from the 1986 N.L. playoffs, it appears that the Astros’ road uniforms, with the modified sunrise on the shoulders, are white too.

    http://i.cdn.turner....
    [/quote]

    By then, the Astros were wearing an off-white road uniform. During All-Star Games, it was clearly not white, but also not as gray as the other teams.[/quote]

    Here we go again. First rainbow shoulders were a road uniform…very, very light gray. MLB would not have allowed full uni like that (jersey and pants) to be white. Later, when they added a home set of that style, they were a cream color (“alamo cream” or something). With rainbow guts, pants were white, home and road. Always.

  • Johnny O | October 22, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    Bryan… I just sent you an e-mail with some pretty good Wisconsin High School nicknames. Hope it helps with your project!

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”296130″][quote]Scenility is FINALLY setting in…174 years too late![/quote]

    it’s “senility”

    and im as guilty of it as anyone, but lets call an end to the ‘ricko’s old’ jokes, k?[/quote]

    Done!

  • Rick Chaney | October 22, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    It looks like it was a good thing the Mets did not make the playoffs so they could start the demolition process early.

  • Bryan Redemske | October 22, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”296134″]Bryan… I just sent you an e-mail with some pretty good Wisconsin High School nicknames. Hope it helps with your project![/quote]

    I thank you. And I also thank those who sent the many hundred other submissions … which I’m going to have to dig through … with a shovel.

    But that list is going to be pretty sweet.

  • Dom | October 22, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    That is actually an orange jersey for Cherokee. I went to their rival high school and they dont have red in their colors because thats our school colors (we are in the same school district).

    http://chsweb.lr.k12...

  • Stuby | October 22, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    I don’t follow college baseball that closely, but I didn’t remember that Vandy had gone with the black monochrome look, at least while David Price was there…

    http://whiteyball.fi...

  • Stormwater Treatment | October 22, 2008 at 12:07 pm |

    The chevron shoulder pads are a nice touch, due for a revival or as part of an entire uniform reboot to a more classic look (looking at you, Bengals and Falcons).

  • Jim MI | October 22, 2008 at 12:14 pm |

    Does anyone know if the St. Louis Blues are going to wear thier third jersey tonight against DET?

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”296138″]That is actually an orange jersey for Cherokee. I went to their rival high school and they dont have red in their colors because thats our school colors (we are in the same school district).

    http://chsweb.lr.k12...
    Yes, you picture shows an orange jersey, but the original shot sure looks like a red jersey to me. Maybe it was some special event (An HIV awareness night, or something?)

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”296141″]Does anyone know if the St. Louis Blues are going to wear thier third jersey tonight against DET?[/quote]

    friday, november 21

  • Jim MI | October 22, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”296143″][quote comment=”296141″]Does anyone know if the St. Louis Blues are going to wear thier third jersey tonight against DET?[/quote]

    friday, november 21[/quote]

    Thanks Phil!

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”296144″][quote comment=”296143″][quote comment=”296141″]Does anyone know if the St. Louis Blues are going to wear thier third jersey tonight against DET?[/quote]

    friday, november 21[/quote]

    Thanks Phil![/quote]

    welcome…jim, im shocked…SHOCKED…that you don’t have icethetics bookmarked ;) (after UW of course)

  • Jim MI | October 22, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”296145″][quote comment=”296144″][quote comment=”296143″][quote comment=”296141″]Does anyone know if the St. Louis Blues are going to wear thier third jersey tonight against DET?[/quote]

    friday, november 21[/quote]

    Thanks Phil![/quote]

    welcome…jim, im shocked…SHOCKED…that you don’t have icethetics bookmarked ;) (after UW of course)[/quote]

    Oh I do. Just haven’t check it yet today. Been to busy at work. I usualy comment earlier in the day. Gotta pay the bills….

  • Rich | October 22, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”296104″][quote comment=”296091″]Speaking of pumpkins… if you want to support the Brew Crew this Halloween, and see their sweet ball-in-glove logo on a pumpkin, you can. Just go here for the stencil from brewers.com

    http://milwaukee.bre...

    Speaking of pumpkin carving:
    http://www.coasttoco...

    So the Nats are sponsoring some pumpkin carving eh? Here’s a scary one for’em:
    http://farm4.static....

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”296117″][quote comment=”296079″]Love the Joe Washington reference…not only the shoes, but the wicked old school facemask. Joe asked Barry Switzer if he could wear silver shoes while OU was recruiting him. Switzer said he could wear pink he kept running like that…He later referred to Joe’s running style as “smoke through a key-hole”.[/quote]

    Through the years, Washington wore different brands of silver cleats: I know of Adidas (Oklahoma), Asics (Chargers), SpotBilt & Riddell (Colts) and Brooks (Redskins). May have worn an additional brand with ‘Skins, too, but Brooks for sure.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”296118″]Another comment on the Joe Washington pictures. That second picture was of Kansas State, not TCU. The magazine issue is from 1974, but the helmet in question was (according to The Helmet Project) from 1972-73: http://www.nationalc...
    The 1974 version was white: http://www.nationalc...

    TCU had a similar helmet in 1966: http://www.nationalc... but their hemlets from 71-76 were silver and purple with TCU script: http://www.nationalc...
    http://www.nationalc...

    Also, in 1974, OU played K-State at home, meaning in ’73, they played them on the road (the most recent time they had played TCU was 1954). That picture is definitely from 1973 vs. K-State[/quote]

    you guys will find this very interesting regarding joe washington

  • C Ryan | October 22, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    New Kentucky basketball uni’s…

    http://www.ukathleti...

  • Jason Gomez | October 22, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”296149″]New Kentucky basketball uni’s…

    http://www.ukathleti...
    Nice…those are pretty sweet along with most of the system of dress schools.

  • Jason | October 22, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    I wonder if you have to carve the TM mark for the Nats pumpkin contest as it is on all the stencils…it’s also on the pumpkins if you look closely…

  • KT | October 22, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”296113″][quote comment=”296110″]I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.[/quote]

    That’s because you made her watch the damn thing 43 times![/quote]

    His wife cried about a Frank TV commercial?

  • Rich | October 22, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    I went to Cherokee High School in Marlton, New Jersey and am ashamed to see they changed the uniforms to that hideous combo. They used to wear those orange helmets with brown jerseys and white pants.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”296148″][quote comment=”296117″][quote comment=”296079″]Love the Joe Washington reference…not only the shoes, but the wicked old school facemask. Joe asked Barry Switzer if he could wear silver shoes while OU was recruiting him. Switzer said he could wear pink he kept running like that…He later referred to Joe’s running style as “smoke through a key-hole”.[/quote]

    Through the years, Washington wore different brands of silver cleats: I know of Adidas (Oklahoma), Asics (Chargers), SpotBilt & Riddell (Colts) and Brooks (Redskins). May have worn an additional brand with ‘Skins, too, but Brooks for sure.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”296118″]Another comment on the Joe Washington pictures. That second picture was of Kansas State, not TCU. The magazine issue is from 1974, but the helmet in question was (according to The Helmet Project) from 1972-73: http://www.nationalc...
    The 1974 version was white: http://www.nationalc...

    TCU had a similar helmet in 1966: http://www.nationalc... but their hemlets from 71-76 were silver and purple with TCU script: http://www.nationalc...
    http://www.nationalc...

    Also, in 1974, OU played K-State at home, meaning in ’73, they played them on the road (the most recent time they had played TCU was 1954). That picture is definitely from 1973 vs. K-State[/quote]

    you guys will find this very interesting regarding joe washington[/quote]

    Those are the pics that I was looking for.

    Those crown vents and nose bumper abre definitely the precursor to the modern-day Schutts:

    http://www.wfaa.com/...

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”296138″]That is actually an orange jersey for Cherokee. I went to their rival high school and they dont have red in their colors because thats our school colors (we are in the same school district).

    http://chsweb.lr.k12...

    That almost looks like Tennessee vs. Ole Miss:

    http://smokeys-trail...

    http://farm1.static....

  • Matt H. | October 22, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    Larry Brown – misspelled NOB

  • Matt H. | October 22, 2008 at 1:37 pm |

    forgot the link . . .

    http://www.remembert...

  • Christopher | October 22, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    Sort-of uni related: NASCAR driver J. J. Yeley is selling the sponsorship to his car on Ebay:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    A mere $12 Million starting bid.

    This part of the page is rather funny:
    “No payments until 2009 – new eBay MasterCard”

    Ha!

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”296156″]Larry Brown – misspelled NOB[/quote]

    that’s great…

    are they playing that game in a high school gym?

  • gsaldi | October 22, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    From the J.J. Yeley Ebay site-

    “Son of Midget racing legend “Cactus” Jack Yeley”

    I know what they are talking about but thats just funny. Ironic that the M in midget is capitalized.

  • Ronnie Poore | October 22, 2008 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”296109″]Anybody see the Temple-Ohio game last night, or was it just me?? Thought so.

    In that case, you missed a very good looking game from a uniform standpoint. Love Temple’s pant stripes!

    Unfortunately, I lack the Googling skill to find a good photo of said game. If any of my fellow Uni Watchers could lend a hand, I’d be appreciative.[/quote]

    it was also an instance of SNOSOH* for BOTH teams.

    * School Name On Sides Of Helmet

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”296152″][quote comment=”296113″][quote comment=”296110″]I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.[/quote]

    That’s because you made her watch the damn thing 43 times![/quote]

    His wife cried about a Frank TV commercial?[/quote]
    Uh, no. The deluge of Frank TV commercials during the playoffs was enough to make me cry, though.

  • Geeman | October 22, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”296133″][quote comment=”296129″][quote comment=”296087″]1. As for the Astros’ uniforms: If you look at photos from the 1986 N.L. playoffs, it appears that the Astros’ road uniforms, with the modified sunrise on the shoulders, are white too.

    http://i.cdn.turner....
    [/quote]

    By then, the Astros were wearing an off-white road uniform. During All-Star Games, it was clearly not white, but also not as gray as the other teams.[/quote]

    Here we go again. First rainbow shoulders were a road uniform…very, very light gray. MLB would not have allowed full uni like that (jersey and pants) to be white. Later, when they added a home set of that style, they were a cream color (“alamo cream” or something). With rainbow guts, pants were white, home and road. Always.[/quote]

    This will be my last reference to this issue, but note that I said that it “appears” to be white, even though it’s really a light gray. I am pretty sure that the original shoulder rainbows were a much darker gray (see 1980 NLCS v. 1986 NLCS).

    On another note — Colorado’s school colors are actually silver and gold, but that would not work for a uniform, which is where the black comes in (though the unofficial color was light blue for a time).

  • Geeman | October 22, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    Does anyone know if the A’s ever wore gold jerseys with grey pants? I know they started wearing green jerseys with gray pants in the mid-1980s and I guess they kept the green jerseys strictly for road games and the gold as a home alternate.
    http://trsullivan.ml...

  • chance | October 22, 2008 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”296106″]This is off topic and more stadium- than uni-related, but here ya go:
    Last night on Eli Stone, there was a scene at a baseball stadium that had me shouting at the TV and my wife rolling her eyes (at me). The show takes place in San Francisco, but the scene was shot in Dodger Stadium and featured a team in Dodger-blue and white. Then there was an aerial establishing shot…of Candlestick Park, from the playoffs in ’87 or ’89 (the upper deck was full in the outfield, it was still a chain link fence, and Magowan’s new bleachers were not in place). And, finally, there was a scene in the corridors and the stadium map on the wall was of a 70’s cookie cutter stadium like the Vet or Three Rivers.

    I know that Hollywood uses Dodger Stadium as a stand in for almost any city’s ballpark, but seriously? Three different stadia? A SF team in blue and white?! If you have to shoot there, at least get the supporting details right! Yeesh![/quote]

    Depends.

    If they didn’t want to get MLB clearance (or couldn’t afford to, or the subject matter meant MLB wouldn’t grant it), then they might not have had a choice.

    In that instance, the producers would want to stay far away from Giants colors so nobody could see it and mistakenly think that the Giants were involved, even in a licensing capacity. So blue makes sense.

    What was the show?

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 2:08 pm |

    I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone post that the Blackhawks third jersey has been leaked.

    Probably because nobody cares, as it’s virtually identical to the one they’ve worn for years.

    I was hoping they’d at least use the same shoulder patches that are on the white jerseys with green and red tomahawks instead of the white and green tomahawks version.

  • timmyg | October 22, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    as a former member of shawnee hs, the white team opposing cherokee in the original picture, i can definitely say that cherokee wears orange with orange..but it used to be much worse 2 years ago when they wore orange jerseys with orange pants..all photos are under copyright though…

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”296164″]Does anyone know if the A’s ever wore gold jerseys with grey pants? I know they started wearing green jerseys with gray pants in the mid-1980s and I guess they kept the green jerseys strictly for road games and the gold as a home alternate.
    http://trsullivan.ml...

    if okkonen (and subsequent illustrators for DTTN) are to be believed, they never wore gold/gray…either gold/white or gold/gold (not shown: 1968 had the schweet old english “OAKLAND” (all caps) and 69 was virtually identical to 70)

  • Jim MI | October 22, 2008 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”296166″]I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone post that the Blackhawks third jersey has been leaked.

    Probably because nobody cares, as it’s virtually identical to the one they’ve worn for years.

    I was hoping they’d at least use the same shoulder patches that are on the white jerseys with green and red tomahawks instead of the white and green tomahawks version.[/quote]

    As classic as third jerseys can get. If they can be called ‘classic’. They’ve worn black jerseys before, so this is no surprise.

    At least they didn’t try to re-do their logo like other Orignal six…

    http://ak.buy.com/db...

    Gross…

  • Namhob | October 22, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”296164″]Does anyone know if the A’s ever wore gold jerseys with grey pants? I know they started wearing green jerseys with gray pants in the mid-1980s and I guess they kept the green jerseys strictly for road games and the gold as a home alternate.
    http://trsullivan.ml...

    According to this http://exhibits.base... in 1983 they wore the gold on the road, but I wouldn’t say the pants were gray.

  • Nicole | October 22, 2008 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”296124″][quote comment=”296091″]Speaking of pumpkins… if you want to support the Brew Crew this Halloween, and see their sweet ball-in-glove logo on a pumpkin, you can. Just go here for the stencil from brewers.com

    http://milwaukee.bre...
    It looks like a handful of other teams are doing it, as well.

    The Twins appear to be going a different direction. Nice to see they’re getting a jump on things.[/quote]

    The Brewers do that too. They pick 4 designs and produce the cards and the proceeds go to charity.

  • Matty | October 22, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    Update on the Nike Marathon here. They came to their senses…

    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”296169″][quote comment=”296166″]I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone post that the Blackhawks third jersey has been leaked.

    Probably because nobody cares, as it’s virtually identical to the one they’ve worn for years.

    I was hoping they’d at least use the same shoulder patches that are on the white jerseys with green and red tomahawks instead of the white and green tomahawks version.[/quote]

    As classic as third jerseys can get. If they can be called ‘classic’. They’ve worn black jerseys before, so this is no surprise.

    At least they didn’t try to re-do their logo like other Orignal six…

    http://ak.buy.com/db...

    Gross…[/quote]
    Glad we won’t see those this year.

    I do like the new Bruins logo, though. Of course, it is a reworking of the 20s/30s designs.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    Midnight Madness:

    Some of the Nike Endorsed colleges broke out their Team Exclusive Nike Hyperdunks this weekend:
    1. Syracuse:
    http://www.footlocke...
    2. Texas:
    http://www.footlocke...
    3. Oregon:
    http://www.footlocke...
    4. Oregon Front view:
    http://www.footlocke...
    5. Florida:
    http://www.sneakerfi...
    6. Kentucky:
    http://www.footlocke...
    7. Kentucky Front View:
    http://www.footlocke...
    8. Kentucky, In Game:
    http://i37.tinypic.c...

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 2:51 pm |
  • Jason Gomez | October 22, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”296174″]Midnight Madness:

    Some of the Nike Endorsed colleges broke out their Team Exclusive Nike Hyperdunks this weekend:
    1. Syracuse:
    http://www.footlocke...
    2. Texas:
    http://www.footlocke...
    3. Oregon:
    http://www.footlocke...
    4. Oregon Front view:
    http://www.footlocke...
    5. Florida:
    http://www.sneakerfi...
    6. Kentucky:
    http://www.footlocke...
    7. Kentucky Front View:
    http://www.footlocke...
    8. Kentucky, In Game:
    http://i37.tinypic.c...

    I love Kentuckys color scheme they look gorgeous

  • Jason Gomez | October 22, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    i should clarify I like the black model. i saw that image…#14 might as well be wearing a dress. I love nike and all but that is terrible, coach has to do something about that

  • Tim | October 22, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”296160″]From the J.J. Yeley Ebay site-

    “Son of Midget racing legend “Cactus” Jack Yeley”

    I know what they are talking about but thats just funny. Ironic that the M in midget is capitalized.[/quote]

    What’s even funnier is that the listing refers to him as a “champion driver”. Since they’re clearly pushing the fact that you can advertise on his Sprint Cup car, I’m not quite sure how a guy with 95 career starts and no wins in Sprint Cup can be considered a champion driver. I mean, if that’s the criteria then I think I can call myself a champion driver as well. After all, I have the same amount of wins as J.J. and I’ve done it with less starts……

  • Jim MI | October 22, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”296173″][quote comment=”296169″][quote comment=”296166″]I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone post that the Blackhawks third jersey has been leaked.

    Probably because nobody cares, as it’s virtually identical to the one they’ve worn for years.

    I was hoping they’d at least use the same shoulder patches that are on the white jerseys with green and red tomahawks instead of the white and green tomahawks version.[/quote]

    As classic as third jerseys can get. If they can be called ‘classic’. They’ve worn black jerseys before, so this is no surprise.

    At least they didn’t try to re-do their logo like other Orignal six…

    http://ak.buy.com/db...

    Gross…[/quote]
    Glad we won’t see those this year.

    I do like the new Bruins logo, though. Of course, it is a reworking of the 20s/30s designs.[/quote]

    Yeah CHI and BOS have come out with thirds that I can at least stand looking at. Liked it better when there were no thirds.

  • simulated steve | October 22, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”296173″][quote comment=”296169″][quote comment=”296166″]I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone post that the Blackhawks third jersey has been leaked.

    Probably because nobody cares, as it’s virtually identical to the one they’ve worn for years.

    I was hoping they’d at least use the same shoulder patches that are on the white jerseys with green and red tomahawks instead of the white and green tomahawks version.[/quote]

    As classic as third jerseys can get. If they can be called ‘classic’. They’ve worn black jerseys before, so this is no surprise.

    At least they didn’t try to re-do their logo like other Orignal six…

    http://ak.buy.com/db...

    Gross…[/quote]
    Glad we won’t see those this year.

    I do like the new Bruins logo, though. Of course, it is a reworking of the 20s/30s designs.[/quote]

    As much as I have never been a fan of the “black” alternate – since it just screams – we put no thought into this. I like the Black Hawks jersey for two reasons. Number 1 and most important – they are called the “black”hawks. And if any time not named after a pirate is allowed to wear black – it should be the Hawks. Unlike, the other team in town – the WhiteSox – who wear anything but white *eyeroll*.

    Second, the color does go back to their roots http://www.nhlunifor... and as much as I would have liked to have seen the “original” logo, there is something kinda cool – of having a single logo, on all three jerseys.

  • Tim | October 22, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”296172″]Update on the Nike Marathon here. They came to their senses…

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    That’s really nice to hear. Because it’s ironic and just downright stupid for Nike, or anyone for that matter, to argue that someone who beat the competition by a good 11 minutes is not the winner because she was not in the so-called “elite” group.

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”296165″][quote comment=”296106″]This is off topic and more stadium- than uni-related, but here ya go:
    Last night on Eli Stone, there was a scene at a baseball stadium that had me shouting at the TV and my wife rolling her eyes (at me). The show takes place in San Francisco, but the scene was shot in Dodger Stadium and featured a team in Dodger-blue and white. Then there was an aerial establishing shot…of Candlestick Park, from the playoffs in ’87 or ’89 (the upper deck was full in the outfield, it was still a chain link fence, and Magowan’s new bleachers were not in place). And, finally, there was a scene in the corridors and the stadium map on the wall was of a 70’s cookie cutter stadium like the Vet or Three Rivers.

    I know that Hollywood uses Dodger Stadium as a stand in for almost any city’s ballpark, but seriously? Three different stadia? A SF team in blue and white?! If you have to shoot there, at least get the supporting details right! Yeesh![/quote]

    Depends.

    If they didn’t want to get MLB clearance (or couldn’t afford to, or the subject matter meant MLB wouldn’t grant it), then they might not have had a choice.

    In that instance, the producers would want to stay far away from Giants colors so nobody could see it and mistakenly think that the Giants were involved, even in a licensing capacity. So blue makes sense.

    What was the show?[/quote]
    It was Monday night’s Eli Stone. I can’t do screen grabs, but its in the first 10 minutes of Season 2/Episode 2.

    I understand the licensing issues. I don’t need orange and black, just not blue and white! And I don’t really have a problem using Dodger Stadium, per se, but that they used three different stadia (Dodger Stadium for in-the-seats, Candlestick for externals, and soundstage-with-generic-round-stadium-map for concession areas).

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”296177″][quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    i should clarify I like the black model. i saw that image…#14 might as well be wearing a dress. I love nike and all but that is terrible, coach has to do something about that[/quote]

    Anything is better than this:

    http://farm2.static....

    http://sportsillustr...

    Poor, poor Tony Delk!

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”296181″][quote comment=”296172″]Update on the Nike Marathon here. They came to their senses…

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    That’s really nice to hear. Because it’s ironic and just downright stupid for Nike, or anyone for that matter, to argue that someone who beat the competition by a good 11 minutes is not the winner because she was not in the so-called “elite” group.[/quote]

    Maybe the second-place finisher was given a special allowance for slipping on one of Nike’s ads placed on the running path!

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”296180″][quote comment=”296173″][quote comment=”296169″][quote comment=”296166″]I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone post that the Blackhawks third jersey has been leaked.

    Probably because nobody cares, as it’s virtually identical to the one they’ve worn for years.

    I was hoping they’d at least use the same shoulder patches that are on the white jerseys with green and red tomahawks instead of the white and green tomahawks version.[/quote]

    As classic as third jerseys can get. If they can be called ‘classic’. They’ve worn black jerseys before, so this is no surprise.

    At least they didn’t try to re-do their logo like other Orignal six…

    http://ak.buy.com/db...

    Gross…[/quote]
    Glad we won’t see those this year.

    I do like the new Bruins logo, though. Of course, it is a reworking of the 20s/30s designs.[/quote]

    As much as I have never been a fan of the “black” alternate – since it just screams – we put no thought into this. I like the Black Hawks jersey for two reasons. Number 1 and most important – they are called the “black”hawks. And if any time not named after a pirate is allowed to wear black – it should be the Hawks. Unlike, the other team in town – the WhiteSox – who wear anything but white *eyeroll*.

    Second, the color does go back to their roots http://www.nhlunifor... and as much as I would have liked to have seen the “original” logo, there is something kinda cool – of having a single logo, on all three jerseys.[/quote]
    So are you saying that the Sox should be dressed in white from head to toe? Should the Red Sox remove all the blue from their uniforms?

  • Geeman | October 22, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”296170″][quote comment=”296164″]Does anyone know if the A’s ever wore gold jerseys with grey pants? I know they started wearing green jerseys with gray pants in the mid-1980s and I guess they kept the green jerseys strictly for road games and the gold as a home alternate.
    http://trsullivan.ml...

    According to this http://exhibits.base... in 1983 they wore the gold on the road, but I wouldn’t say the pants were gray.[/quote]

    One of the problems with that otherwise great book is the lack of distinction between shades of white and gray.

  • Tim | October 22, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”296162″]I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.[/quote]

    You can also click on the Nike “Leave Nothing” commercial, the one with Shawne Merriman and Steven Jackson. I always loved that commercial. One of my old man’s favorite movies is “Last of the Mohicans” and the commercial just floored him. Now, of course, onto the uni anachronisms in that commercial:

    (1) The Vikings have white cleats instead of black
    (2) The Seahawks have white cleats instead of black
    (3) The Steelers have black cleats instead of white
    (4) Right at the end a #4 runs in to make the tackle on Jackson. Was Jackson a return man at some point? Unless it’s a kickoff or a punt, there’s no reason for a single digit player to be out on the field on defense when the Rams are on offense. Someone must have figured that out because I recall it being corrected at one point and it was switched to a number in the 40’s.

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Gee…actual of photo of why I’ve quit watching basketball over the past few years. Utterly, completely stopped. Just don’t care anymore. Not cuz of uni styles, cuz of what they reflect about the general attitude in and around the game.

    For example, could we lose the handslapping after a made free throw? Jeez, it’s just a frickin’ free throw. As a team, go about your business and shoot the next one.

  • Tim | October 22, 2008 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”296188″][quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Gee…actual of photo of why I’ve quit watching basketball over the past few years. Utterly, completely stopped. Just don’t care anymore. Not cuz of uni styles, cuz of what they reflect about the general attitude in and around the game.

    For example, could we lose the handslapping after a made free throw? Jeez, it’s just a frickin’ free throw. As a team, go about your business and shoot the next one.[/quote]

    True dat. The one that always gets me is in football, where a guy makes a tackle and he starts celebrating like he won the Super Bowl. I halfway expect confetti to start falling and fireworks to go off.

    Hey Skippy, your team is losing by 3 touchdowns. Maybe if you had made that tackle earlier in the game instead of wondering what kind of celebration you’re going to perform when you DO make it, your team might still be in the game.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”296188″][quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Gee…actual of photo of why I’ve quit watching basketball over the past few years. Utterly, completely stopped. Just don’t care anymore. Not cuz of uni styles, cuz of what they reflect about the general attitude in and around the game.

    For example, could we lose the handslapping after a made free throw? Jeez, it’s just a frickin’ free throw. As a team, go about your business and shoot the next one.[/quote]

    or after a missed free throw too…

    /rick barry secretly chuckles at them

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”296187″][quote comment=”296162″]I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.[/quote]

    You can also click on the Nike “Leave Nothing” commercial, the one with Shawne Merriman and Steven Jackson. I always loved that commercial. One of my old man’s favorite movies is “Last of the Mohicans” and the commercial just floored him. Now, of course, onto the uni anachronisms in that commercial:

    (1) The Vikings have white cleats instead of black
    (2) The Seahawks have white cleats instead of black
    (3) The Steelers have black cleats instead of white
    (4) Right at the end a #4 runs in to make the tackle on Jackson. Was Jackson a return man at some point? Unless it’s a kickoff or a punt, there’s no reason for a single digit player to be out on the field on defense when the Rams are on offense. Someone must have figured that out because I recall it being corrected at one point and it was switched to a number in the 40’s.[/quote]
    The “Leave Nothing” series is really well done. I was not thrilled to see the one with LT running roughshod over the Bears, though.

    As far as the uni-related issues in the Merriman/Jackson one, isn’t there also a Seahawk wearing #80? Or was that corrected as well? I can’t check now because I’m at work.

  • PK | October 22, 2008 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”296189″][quote comment=”296188″][quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Gee…actual of photo of why I’ve quit watching basketball over the past few years. Utterly, completely stopped. Just don’t care anymore. Not cuz of uni styles, cuz of what they reflect about the general attitude in and around the game.

    For example, could we lose the handslapping after a made free throw? Jeez, it’s just a frickin’ free throw. As a team, go about your business and shoot the next one.[/quote]

    True dat. The one that always gets me is in football, where a guy makes a tackle and he starts celebrating like he won the Super Bowl. I halfway expect confetti to start falling and fireworks to go off.

    Hey Skippy, your team is losing by 3 touchdowns. Maybe if you had made that tackle earlier in the game instead of wondering what kind of celebration you’re going to perform when you DO make it, your team might still be in the game.[/quote]

    hey, are you a Detroit Lions coach?

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote]hey, are you a Detroit Lions coach?[/quote]

    they have one?

  • PK | October 22, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”296193″][quote]hey, are you a Detroit Lions coach?[/quote]

    they have one?[/quote]

    I thought his name was Herm…oh wait, he’s in KC…

    when can we start the 0-16 watch?

  • Jim MI | October 22, 2008 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”296194″][quote comment=”296193″][quote]hey, are you a Detroit Lions coach?[/quote]

    they have one?[/quote]

    I thought his name was Herm…oh wait, he’s in KC…

    when can we start the 0-16 watch?[/quote]

    could have started that at the beginning of the season.

  • Geeman | October 22, 2008 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    The length of the shorts is absurd. Why do track athletes and football players wear form-fitting clothing to enhance the performance while a basketball player, who arguably needs just as nimble a movement, wears a dress that weighs him down? I am waiting for the next Jordan to come on the scene in shorter shorts. Everyone will go: “It’s gotta be the shorts!”

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”296185″]
    So are you saying that the Sox should be dressed in white from head to toe? Should the Red Sox remove all the blue from their uniforms?[/quote]
    I just read what I wrote here and it comes off as pretty harsh. Not my intent.

    As far as colors go, there’s not much you can do with white, so you need to put something on there. So really, the White Sox kind of have the perfect color scheme to reflect the fact that white is a non-color. But they really should be forced by league rule or something to wear white socks.

  • Tim | October 22, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”296191″]As far as the uni-related issues in the Merriman/Jackson one, isn’t there also a Seahawk wearing #80? Or was that corrected as well? I can’t check now because I’m at work.[/quote]

    You have eyes like an eagle. I couldn’t definitively tell if it was a 30 or 80, but it DOES look like an 80 at a quick glance. The one on that clip still has the old Steelers #4, so I don’t know if it was ever corrected.

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”296198″][quote comment=”296191″]As far as the uni-related issues in the Merriman/Jackson one, isn’t there also a Seahawk wearing #80? Or was that corrected as well? I can’t check now because I’m at work.[/quote]

    You have eyes like an eagle. I couldn’t definitively tell if it was a 30 or 80, but it DOES look like an 80 at a quick glance. The one on that clip still has the old Steelers #4, so I don’t know if it was ever corrected.[/quote]
    I’d love to take credit, but I think Paul actually wrote something here about it a while back. Or maybe someone posted it in the comments.

  • Jason Gomez | October 22, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”296194″][quote comment=”296193″][quote]hey, are you a Detroit Lions coach?[/quote]

    they have one?[/quote]

    I thought his name was Herm…oh wait, he’s in KC…

    when can we start the 0-16 watch?[/quote]

    Ok, my Chiefs suck, but not as long as the Cardinals, Lions and Raiders.

    Herm needs to go along with Carl Peterson. They need to dump LJ too. Cant believe a kid who grew up not wanting for anything is such a jackass and pissed off at the world. Sorry, got off topic

  • simulated steve | October 22, 2008 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”296185″][quote comment=”296180″][quote comment=”296173″][quote comment=”296169″][quote comment=”296166″]I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone post that the Blackhawks third jersey has been leaked.

    Probably because nobody cares, as it’s virtually identical to the one they’ve worn for years.

    I was hoping they’d at least use the same shoulder patches that are on the white jerseys with green and red tomahawks instead of the white and green tomahawks version.[/quote]

    As classic as third jerseys can get. If they can be called ‘classic’. They’ve worn black jerseys before, so this is no surprise.

    At least they didn’t try to re-do their logo like other Orignal six…

    http://ak.buy.com/db...

    Gross…[/quote]
    Glad we won’t see those this year.

    I do like the new Bruins logo, though. Of course, it is a reworking of the 20s/30s designs.[/quote]

    As much as I have never been a fan of the “black” alternate – since it just screams – we put no thought into this. I like the Black Hawks jersey for two reasons. Number 1 and most important – they are called the “black”hawks. And if any time not named after a pirate is allowed to wear black – it should be the Hawks. Unlike, the other team in town – the WhiteSox – who wear anything but white *eyeroll*.

    Second, the color does go back to their roots http://www.nhlunifor... and as much as I would have liked to have seen the “original” logo, there is something kinda cool – of having a single logo, on all three jerseys.[/quote]
    So are you saying that the Sox should be dressed in white from head to toe? Should the Red Sox remove all the blue from their uniforms?[/quote]

    No, don’t put words in my mouth. I would like to see the white sox at least attempt to wear white hosiery. I mean, how can you call this team the “white” sox http://www.itsalread...

    The team just embraces the color black as if it was their primary color. http://upload.wikime...

    I just have a pet peave, when a teams name, logo or colors are a contradiction in and of itself.

  • Mike Miller | October 22, 2008 at 4:20 pm |

    There is a AHNOB alert in the Champions League game on ESPN2 right now between Atletico Madrid and Liverpool. (AHNOB = abbreviated, hyphenated name on back) Florent Sinama-Pongolle, #14 for Atletico Madrid, has “Sinama-P.” as his NOB.

    Sorry I can’t do a screen grab or find a picture. I did find a picture of his jersey presentation when he joined the team, but it doesn’t have the hyphen, just “Sinama P.”

    http://www.fifa.com/...

  • hockey guy | October 22, 2008 at 4:23 pm |

    Anyone who uses the term “Shinguards” has never played any level of hockey at all..They are called SHINPADS…

  • Duckstyle | October 22, 2008 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”296203″]Anyone who uses the term “Shinguards” has never played any level of hockey at all..They are called SHINPADS…[/quote]

    Agreed! Nothing can be referred to by 2 different names, completle absurdity! It’s chaos, I tell you.

  • chance | October 22, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”296201″]I would like to see the white sox at least attempt to wear white hosiery. I mean, how can you call this team the “white” sox http://www.itsalread...

    The team just embraces the color black as if it was their primary color. http://upload.wikime...

    I just have a pet peave, when a teams name, logo or colors are a contradiction in and of itself.[/quote]

    I don’t mind them using black as their primary color. I don’t see any inherent contradiction.

    I would like them to wear white socks, though. That’s where the contradiction comes in.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”296204″][quote comment=”296203″]Anyone who uses the term “Shinguards” has never played any level of hockey at all..They are called SHINPADS…[/quote]

    Agreed! Nothing can be referred to by 2 different names, completle absurdity! It’s chaos, I tell you.[/quote]

    good god, man…you’re so correct!

    /did the blessed event occur there ducks? aint seen ya much lately ;)

  • Aaron Scholder | October 22, 2008 at 4:46 pm |

    There’s another player in the NHL who has a long hyphenated name. Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers of the Oilers, http://oilers.nhl.co... , who uses Deslauriers on his jersey. This is the best I could do: in his minor league days: http://bp2.blogger.c...

  • Patrick | October 22, 2008 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”296205″][quote comment=”296201″]I would like to see the white sox at least attempt to wear white hosiery. I mean, how can you call this team the “white” sox http://www.itsalread...

    The team just embraces the color black as if it was their primary color. http://upload.wikime...

    I just have a pet peave, when a teams name, logo or colors are a contradiction in and of itself.[/quote]

    I don’t mind them using black as their primary color. I don’t see any inherent contradiction.

    I would like them to wear white socks, though. That’s where the contradiction comes in.[/quote]

    While it would be nice to see them wearing actual white socks (not white stirrups – those look awful…just plain white socks with a little striping), we’d never get to see them anyway as long as the jackasses in mlb keep wearing their jammies and bell bottoms.

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”296209″][quote comment=”296205″][quote comment=”296201″]I would like to see the white sox at least attempt to wear white hosiery. I mean, how can you call this team the “white” sox http://www.itsalread...

    The team just embraces the color black as if it was their primary color. http://upload.wikime...

    I just have a pet peave, when a teams name, logo or colors are a contradiction in and of itself.[/quote]

    I don’t mind them using black as their primary color. I don’t see any inherent contradiction.

    I would like them to wear white socks, though. That’s where the contradiction comes in.[/quote]

    While it would be nice to see them wearing actual white socks (not white stirrups – those look awful…just plain white socks with a little striping), we’d never get to see them anyway as long as the jackasses in mlb keep wearing their jammies and bell bottoms.[/quote]

    Maybe if we start saying things to them like, “Cool, that’s what cricket players wear.”

  • Dom | October 22, 2008 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”296142″][quote comment=”296138″]That is actually an orange jersey for Cherokee. I went to their rival high school and they dont have red in their colors because thats our school colors (we are in the same school district).

    http://chsweb.lr.k12...
    Yes, you picture shows an orange jersey, but the original shot sure looks like a red jersey to me. Maybe it was some special event (An HIV awareness night, or something?)[/quote]

    No their orange, heres a gallery from that game. It looks like it rained that night & darkened the jerseys.

    http://courierposton...

  • gppittjk | October 22, 2008 at 5:31 pm |

    the white sox kinda dealt themselves a raw deal in terms of actually wearing white socks, at least in respect to this crowd.

    think about it

    let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that at least someone on the white sox chooses to wear his white socks high (as i agree ballplayers look better doing, but it’s important to remember that it’s their choice whether they do or not) with white pants or with pinstriped white pants. people here would complain that the pinstripes and socks dont look good together. or they would use the oft-thrown-around “leotard effect” comment like they do for football players if the socks were worn with white (non-pinstriped) pants. and with grey pants, the socks would look even worse, and that would be noted here.

    now most here would say “well, add a stripe to it.” well, then they’re not really white socks are they?

    all of this is just hypothetical, so dont crucify me for it (if youre gonna crucify me, do so because i think the fact that stirrups still exist is, in a word, dumb. we have the technology to make colored socks that wont poison us… so use it. plus, high stirrups with pinstripes, or just about ever, look dumb to me).

    it just seems that with the white sox they would have to change their pant colors to, uh, black for it to work. and that idea, i’m betting, would not suit this crowd any better. again, just looking at the situation. i could be wrong but it seems to me there isn’t much the white sox can do.

  • Not Osama | October 22, 2008 at 5:32 pm |

    The Alabama helmet in question is a white, MacGregor MH100 model, a.k.a. a ‘clearshell’. The clearshell helmets have an 1/8 of plastic OVER the paint and decals which often darkens or casts a shadow over the colors and decals underneath.

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 5:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”296211″]
    No their orange, heres a gallery from that game. It looks like it rained that night & darkened the jerseys.[/quote]

    And the Halloween photo gallery listed on that same page features this shot.

    I like that kid’s homemade Ditka sweater. He loses points because it’s not a sweater vest, but he gains points for putting stripes on there that are reminiscent of the jersey stripes.

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”296211″][quote comment=”296142″][quote comment=”296138″]That is actually an orange jersey for Cherokee. I went to their rival high school and they dont have red in their colors because thats our school colors (we are in the same school district).

    http://chsweb.lr.k12...
    Yes, your picture shows an orange jersey, but the original shot sure looks like a red jersey to me. Maybe it was some special event (An HIV awareness night, or something?)[/quote]

    No they’re orange, here’s a gallery from that game. It looks like it rained that night & darkened the jerseys.

    http://courierposton...
    Well, how ’bout that. I guess rain and lighting made it look red. Still, an Inspi(red) event would be a cool way to raise awareness at the HS level…but, man, would it be ugly!

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 5:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”296212″]the white sox kinda dealt themselves a raw deal in terms of actually wearing white socks, at least in respect to this crowd.

    think about it

    let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that at least someone on the white sox chooses to wear his white socks high (as i agree ballplayers look better doing, but it’s important to remember that it’s their choice whether they do or not) with white pants or with pinstriped white pants. people here would complain that the pinstripes and socks dont look good together. or they would use the oft-thrown-around “leotard effect” comment like they do for football players if the socks were worn with white (non-pinstriped) pants. and with grey pants, the socks would look even worse, and that would be noted here.

    now most here would say “well, add a stripe to it.” well, then they’re not really white socks are they?

    all of this is just hypothetical, so dont crucify me for it (if youre gonna crucify me, do so because i think the fact that stirrups still exist is, in a word, dumb. we have the technology to make colored socks that wont poison us… so use it. plus, high stirrups with pinstripes, or just about ever, look dumb to me).

    it just seems that with the white sox they would have to change their pant colors to, uh, black for it to work. and that idea, i’m betting, would not suit this crowd any better. again, just looking at the situation. i could be wrong but it seems to me there isn’t much the white sox can do.[/quote]

    well…this is how the white sox look with white socks…i don’t see a problem with it

    this, on the other hand, is what the white sox look like with white stirrups…while some amongst us (i, for one) rather fancy this look, it obviously never caught on

    nothing wrong with white SOCKS as long as they actually wear stirrups…plain white socks, or even white socks with stripes would be preferable to the black stocking (sans stirrup) they currently wear…it makes it look like they’re wearing black socks

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”296215″][quote comment=”296211″]
    No their orange, heres a gallery from that game. It looks like it rained that night & darkened the jerseys.[/quote]

    And the Halloween photo gallery listed on that same page features this shot.

    I like that kid’s homemade Ditka sweater. He loses points because it’s not a sweater vest, but he gains points for putting stripes on there that are reminiscent of the jersey stripes.[/quote]
    And what about Da Coach himself? Was he impressed?

  • The Hemogoblin | October 22, 2008 at 6:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”296201″][quote comment=”296185″][quote comment=”296180″][quote comment=”296173″][quote comment=”296169″][quote comment=”296166″]I don’t believe I’ve seen anyone post that the Blackhawks third jersey has been leaked.

    Probably because nobody cares, as it’s virtually identical to the one they’ve worn for years.

    I was hoping they’d at least use the same shoulder patches that are on the white jerseys with green and red tomahawks instead of the white and green tomahawks version.[/quote]

    As classic as third jerseys can get. If they can be called ‘classic’. They’ve worn black jerseys before, so this is no surprise.

    At least they didn’t try to re-do their logo like other Orignal six…

    http://ak.buy.com/db...

    Gross…[/quote]
    Glad we won’t see those this year.

    I do like the new Bruins logo, though. Of course, it is a reworking of the 20s/30s designs.[/quote]

    As much as I have never been a fan of the “black” alternate – since it just screams – we put no thought into this. I like the Black Hawks jersey for two reasons. Number 1 and most important – they are called the “black”hawks. And if any time not named after a pirate is allowed to wear black – it should be the Hawks. Unlike, the other team in town – the WhiteSox – who wear anything but white *eyeroll*.

    Second, the color does go back to their roots http://www.nhlunifor... and as much as I would have liked to have seen the “original” logo, there is something kinda cool – of having a single logo, on all three jerseys.[/quote]
    So are you saying that the Sox should be dressed in white from head to toe? Should the Red Sox remove all the blue from their uniforms?[/quote]

    No, don’t put words in my mouth. I would like to see the white sox at least attempt to wear white hosiery. I mean, how can you call this team the “white” sox http://www.itsalread...

    The team just embraces the color black as if it was their primary color. http://upload.wikime...

    I just have a pet peave, when a teams name, logo or colors are a contradiction in and of itself.[/quote]

    In a nutshell-

    If the White Sox had white socks, it would give them an easily ridiculed look known as the “unitard”.

  • Rioromes | October 22, 2008 at 6:40 pm |

    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but San Jose Sharks officially will unveil their third jersey on November 21st. They are tying their third jersey games with Seagate Technologies. Using the opportunity to promote their “BlackArmor” product.

    http://sharks.nhl.co...

  • Dom | October 22, 2008 at 6:55 pm |

    [quote comment=\”296216\”][quote comment=\”296211\”][quote comment=\”296142\”][quote comment=\”296138\”]That is actually an orange jersey for Cherokee. I went to their rival high school and they dont have red in their colors because thats our school colors (we are in the same school district).

    http://chsweb.lr.k12...
    Yes, your picture shows an orange jersey, but the original shot sure looks like a red jersey to me. Maybe it was some special event (An HIV awareness night, or something?)[/quote]

    No they\’re orange, here\’s a gallery from that game. It looks like it rained that night & darkened the jerseys.

    http://courierposton...
    Well, how \’bout that. I guess rain and lighting made it look red. Still, an Inspi(red) event would be a cool way to raise awareness at the HS level…but, man, would it be ugly![/quote]

    haha tru, it would just be too expensive for a high school for a one and done game but it may be worth it

  • The Hemogoblin | October 22, 2008 at 7:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”296222″][quote comment=\”296216\”][quote comment=\”296211\”][quote comment=\”296142\”][quote comment=\”296138\”]That is actually an orange jersey for Cherokee. I went to their rival high school and they dont have red in their colors because thats our school colors (we are in the same school district).

    http://chsweb.lr.k12...
    Yes, your picture shows an orange jersey, but the original shot sure looks like a red jersey to me. Maybe it was some special event (An HIV awareness night, or something?)[/quote]

    No they\’re orange, here\’s a gallery from that game. It looks like it rained that night & darkened the jerseys.

    http://courierposton...
    Well, how \’bout that. I guess rain and lighting made it look red. Still, an Inspi(red) event would be a cool way to raise awareness at the HS level…but, man, would it be ugly![/quote]

    haha tru, it would just be too expensive for a high school for a one and done game but it may be worth it[/quote]

    I’m thinking it should be “Perspi(red)”.

  • Namhob | October 22, 2008 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”296221″]Not sure if this has been posted yet, but San Jose Sharks officially will unveil their third jersey on November 21st. They are tying their third jersey games with Seagate Technologies. Using the opportunity to promote their “BlackArmor” product.

    http://sharks.nhl.co...
    Let me guess what color the “BlackArmor” jersey will be!

  • LynchMob | October 22, 2008 at 7:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”296181″][quote comment=”296172″]Update on the Nike Marathon here. They came to their senses…

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    That’s really nice to hear. Because it’s ironic and just downright stupid for Nike, or anyone for that matter, to argue that someone who beat the competition by a good 11 minutes is not the winner because she was not in the so-called “elite” group.[/quote]

    The is is *NOT* that “she was not in the elite group” … it’s that she did not cross the finish line first … therefore she did not win.

    The original article seems to be just BAD journalism … the author states:

    It doesn’t get much simpler than a footrace. All it takes is a starting line, a finish line and a clock.

    … um, why do you need a clock? And the writer knows this, because then he says this …

    You fire the gun and the first person to the end of the course is the winner.

    … BINGO! Was Arien O’Connell “the first person to the end of the course”? NO! So she wasn’t “the winner” … simple.

    I’m just saying the article is “spin”, not “jounalism” …

  • Steve | October 22, 2008 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”296225″][quote comment=”296181″][quote comment=”296172″]Update on the Nike Marathon here. They came to their senses…

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    That’s really nice to hear. Because it’s ironic and just downright stupid for Nike, or anyone for that matter, to argue that someone who beat the competition by a good 11 minutes is not the winner because she was not in the so-called “elite” group.[/quote]

    The is is *NOT* that “she was not in the elite group” … it’s that she did not cross the finish line first … therefore she did not win.

    The original article seems to be just BAD journalism … the author states:

    It doesn’t get much simpler than a footrace. All it takes is a starting line, a finish line and a clock.

    … um, why do you need a clock? And the writer knows this, because then he says this …

    You fire the gun and the first person to the end of the course is the winner.

    … BINGO! Was Arien O’Connell “the first person to the end of the course”? NO! So she wasn’t “the winner” … simple.

    I’m just saying the article is “spin”, not “jounalism” …[/quote]

    You need a clock if you’re giving an elite group a head start on the race. On top of that, in marathons, they go based on chip time of when you first crossed the start line to when you cross the finish line. In big marathons, it can be several minutes between the gun going off and you finally getting just to the start line.

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 8:48 pm |

    Can anyone explain why Fox is using the high camera angle from CF? Much harder to judge b&s’s and it’s not like the low angle isn’t available ot the Trop.

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 9:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”296227″]Can anyone explain why Fox is using the high camera angle from CF? Much harder to judge b&s’s and it’s not like the low angle isn’t available ot the Trop.[/quote]
    Looks like they’re using the “dead center” angle, which has to be higher to see over the pitcher (as opposed to the lower, off to the side angle we’re more used to). ESPN played with it a few seasons ago, but it never really caught on.

    And let me just add: man, do I hate Joe Buck and Tim McCarver! They haven’t said anything especially dumb yet, but like Christmas, it’s all about the anticipation…only in a bad way.

  • gppittjk | October 22, 2008 at 9:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”296217″][quote comment=”296212″]the white sox kinda dealt themselves a raw deal in terms of actually wearing white socks, at least in respect to this crowd.

    think about it

    let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that at least someone on the white sox chooses to wear his white socks high (as i agree ballplayers look better doing, but it’s important to remember that it’s their choice whether they do or not) with white pants or with pinstriped white pants. people here would complain that the pinstripes and socks dont look good together. or they would use the oft-thrown-around “leotard effect” comment like they do for football players if the socks were worn with white (non-pinstriped) pants. and with grey pants, the socks would look even worse, and that would be noted here.

    now most here would say “well, add a stripe to it.” well, then they’re not really white socks are they?

    all of this is just hypothetical, so dont crucify me for it (if youre gonna crucify me, do so because i think the fact that stirrups still exist is, in a word, dumb. we have the technology to make colored socks that wont poison us… so use it. plus, high stirrups with pinstripes, or just about ever, look dumb to me).

    it just seems that with the white sox they would have to change their pant colors to, uh, black for it to work. and that idea, i’m betting, would not suit this crowd any better. again, just looking at the situation. i could be wrong but it seems to me there isn’t much the white sox can do.[/quote]

    well…this is how the white sox look with white socks…i don’t see a problem with it

    this, on the other hand, is what the white sox look like with white stirrups…while some amongst us (i, for one) rather fancy this look, it obviously never caught on[/quote]

    for that first pic, arent those sanitaries? so yes, technically they are socks but youre missing my point. theyre not ALL white, which the term “white sox” seems to imply. and if they wore all white socks, theyd get ripped to shreds here.

    btw i enjoy the disagreement. its fun to debate these things. much respect (from reading your opinions before) LI Phil.

  • rangers85 | October 22, 2008 at 9:17 pm |

    As a TCU person myself, I can definitely say that’s not a TCU helmet. I would have guessed possibly Northwestern, but it appears from earlier comments K-State is the correct answer.

  • gppittjk | October 22, 2008 at 9:21 pm |

    wow i just reread that post and it sounds aweful. i apologize for stumbling over my words. basically i agree that sanitaries are socks but putting the stirrups over them makes them not look like white socks at all (and in my opinion dumb, but to each their own). and like i said earlier, adding stripes would once again make the socks not be all white, which once again i believe the moniker “white sox” implies.

    and i didnt mean that i dont respect your opinion on this topic LI Phil, and i apologize if thats how it sounded. i really didnt mean that at all.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote]i didnt mean that i dont respect your opinion on this topic LI Phil, and i apologize if thats how it sounded. i really didnt mean that at all.[/quote]

    just as long as you realize that my opinion is right and yours is wrong ;)

    actually, i just got in and reread my own post…and one could make the argument that the sanis are indeed the white in the white sox…i spose all points are moot anyway, since only thome (and i guess one or two others) really shows any sock anyway

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 9:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”296228″][quote comment=”296227″]Can anyone explain why Fox is using the high camera angle from CF? Much harder to judge b&s’s and it’s not like the low angle isn’t available ot the Trop.[/quote]
    Looks like they’re using the “dead center” angle, which has to be higher to see over the pitcher (as opposed to the lower, off to the side angle we’re more used to). ESPN played with it a few seasons ago, but it never really caught on.

    And let me just add: man, do I hate Joe Buck and Tim McCarver! They haven’t said anything especially dumb yet, but like Christmas, it’s all about the anticipation…only in a bad way.[/quote]

    Thanks, I remember that now but forgot how much I thought it sucked. This is almost annoying that TBS’s strike zone. I watched enough baseball to know what’s a strike, and the zone would be fine except pitches that just miss look a foot outside on the zone. Also, how do they establish the top of the zone? Everybody knows the rulebook definition is meaningless and how is it adjusted when a hitter adjusts to a pitch? Joe Mor(ga)on swears by the k-zone which is all one needs to know about that.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 9:30 pm |

    [quote]do I hate Joe Buck and Tim McCarver! They haven’t said anything especially dumb yet, but like Christmas, it’s all about the anticipation…only in a bad way. [/quote]

    one of the best parts of being a mets fan is getting to hear ron darling for about 100 games a year…one of the worst parts is that he’s (often) paired with keith hernandez…gary cohen is good (and he actually works 162 games), but hernandez just ruins it

    buck and mccarver make it almost worth it to have the mute button, but the radio features the stellar feed of morgan and miller…again…not much worthwhile there

    i loved darling on TBS, but if i never hear buck and chip again, it will be too soon

  • Tim | October 22, 2008 at 9:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”296226″][quote comment=”296225″][quote comment=”296181″][quote comment=”296172″]Update on the Nike Marathon here. They came to their senses…

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    That’s really nice to hear. Because it’s ironic and just downright stupid for Nike, or anyone for that matter, to argue that someone who beat the competition by a good 11 minutes is not the winner because she was not in the so-called “elite” group.[/quote]

    The is is *NOT* that “she was not in the elite group” … it’s that she did not cross the finish line first … therefore she did not win.

    The original article seems to be just BAD journalism … the author states:

    It doesn’t get much simpler than a footrace. All it takes is a starting line, a finish line and a clock.

    … um, why do you need a clock? And the writer knows this, because then he says this …

    You fire the gun and the first person to the end of the course is the winner.

    … BINGO! Was Arien O’Connell “the first person to the end of the course”? NO! So she wasn’t “the winner” … simple.

    I’m just saying the article is “spin”, not “jounalism” …[/quote]

    You need a clock if you’re giving an elite group a head start on the race. On top of that, in marathons, they go based on chip time of when you first crossed the start line to when you cross the finish line. In big marathons, it can be several minutes between the gun going off and you finally getting just to the start line.[/quote]

    Not only that, but based on the logic from the first poster, you not only are going to have a “winner” based on who crossed the finish line first, but then a separate category for “fastest time”. That’s what they wound up doing in the end, recognizing Arien O’Connell as A winner, not THE winner.

    Which begs the question: How can the “winner” be the winner if she didn’t have the fastest time? How can someone who ran the course in 3:06 but crossed the finish line first ONLY because she got a headstart claim to be a winner over someone who ran the course in 2:55 but because she started in a separate group finished AFTER her. You can spin it any way you want, but being in the “elite” group has an inherent advantage; only someone in the “elite” group will EVER win the marathon, because they will ALWAYS cross the finish line first because of that 20-minute headstart. You’re basically telling someone not in the group “you may have the best time, but if you want to be considered the winner you have to overcome the other group’s 20-minute headstart.” No matter how awesome a runner may be, that’s a ridiculous amount of time to ask someone to make up.

    So no matter how remote the chances (presuming that the “elite” group is considered the best of the best female marathon runners), you conceivably can have a result like the one in this race. Apparently the race organizers came to the same conclusion, because they are eliminating the “elite” group for future races so you can have only one undisputed winner: the person who crosses first will, by necessity, also have the fastest time.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 9:33 pm |

    so larry…

    i guess (other than the kc ballclub being there), this has gotta be your wet dream of an october classic, eh?

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 9:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”296232″][quote]i didnt mean that i dont respect your opinion on this topic LI Phil, and i apologize if thats how it sounded. i really didnt mean that at all.[/quote]

    just as long as you realize that my opinion is right and yours is wrong ;)

    actually, i just got in and reread my own post…and one could make the argument that the sanis are indeed the white in the white sox…i spose all points are moot anyway, since only thome (and i guess one or two others) really shows any sock anyway[/quote]

    Guess we shouldn’t find fault with stripes on white socks. If we did, then those socks Ted Williams wore were all wrong. I mean, they aren’t the Chicago Plain White Sox.

    Besides, I think something like either the ’59 Series unis or the EIGHT MEN OUT unis are cool in a wonderfully vintage way. I remember when the White Sox staged the first TBTC game many of the players said they’d just as soon wear those unis all the time.

    —Ricko

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”296227″]Can anyone explain why Fox is using the high camera angle from CF? Much harder to judge b&s’s and it’s not like the low angle isn’t available ot the Trop.[/quote]
    Sure. It’s their spin on the old “I’m taking my ball and going home” routine. Fox didn’t get their dream Boston-LA matchup, so as payback they’re going to make the broadcast as unpleasant as possible.

    Phase 2 is McCarver on play-by-play with Joe Carter as the color man for innings 4 thru 6.

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 9:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”296232″][quote]i didnt mean that i dont respect your opinion on this topic LI Phil, and i apologize if thats how it sounded. i really didnt mean that at all.[/quote]

    just as long as you realize that my opinion is right and yours is wrong ;)

    actually, i just got in and reread my own post…and one could make the argument that the sanis are indeed the white in the white sox…i spose all points are moot anyway, since only thome (and i guess one or two others) really shows any sock anyway[/quote]
    Off the top of my head: Joe Crede always does (when he isn’t on the DL); Juan Uribe did quite a bit this past season; Paul Konerko on occasion; Jermaine Dye on occasion; a few of the relief pitchers.

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”296236″]so larry…

    i guess (other than the kc ballclub being there), this has gotta be your wet dream of an october classic, eh?[/quote]

    Really even better than if KC was there (thankfully that won’t happen). I can’t remember watching a WS where there wasn’t apathy (2002, ‘05), hatred (2003) or where I was rooting hard for just one team (2004, ‘06 and not the Sox!)

    Tomorrow night, though, I will have to temper my TB enthusiasm because of the immediate company I will be keeping.

  • Tim | October 22, 2008 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”296234″]i loved darling on TBS, but if i never hear buck and chip again, it will be too soon[/quote]

    I thought the pairing last year of Darling and Dick Stockton was the best one, and SHOULD have been the #1 team. Then they put Tony Gwynn in the booth this year and it broke up the flow. Then they teamed Darling with Chip “Mr. Roboto” Caray and Buck “I never found a topic I didn’t enjoy pontificating on” Martinez and it was, shall we say, hard on the ears.

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 9:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”296238″][quote comment=”296227″]Can anyone explain why Fox is using the high camera angle from CF? Much harder to judge b&s’s and it’s not like the low angle isn’t available ot the Trop.[/quote]
    Sure. It’s their spin on the old “I’m taking my ball and going home” routine. Fox didn’t get their dream Boston-LA matchup, so as payback they’re going to make the broadcast as unpleasant as possible.

    Phase 2 is McCarver on play-by-play with Joe Carter as the color man for innings 4 thru 6.[/quote]

    I rarely grumble about announcers, but McCarver does get to me. Listen to difficult it is for him to overcome is National League bias. It just kills him to say an AL player did something right. He will leave it to his broadcast partner to do that (analyze a replay or some such). But if an NL player does something great, he falls all over himself to load on the praise. It’s not an absolute, of course, but over time it really becomes obvious.

    —Ricko

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 9:58 pm |

    Memo to Mr. Buck, there is Clearwater and there is Clearwater Beach. Old Coachman Road (Phils ST) is 8 miles from CLW Beach.

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”296237″][quote comment=”296232″][quote]i didnt mean that i dont respect your opinion on this topic LI Phil, and i apologize if thats how it sounded. i really didnt mean that at all.[/quote]

    just as long as you realize that my opinion is right and yours is wrong ;)

    actually, i just got in and reread my own post…and one could make the argument that the sanis are indeed the white in the white sox…i spose all points are moot anyway, since only thome (and i guess one or two others) really shows any sock anyway[/quote]

    Guess we shouldn’t find fault with stripes on white socks. If we did, then those socks Ted Williams wore were all wrong. I mean, they aren’t the Chicago Plain White Sox.

    Besides, I think something like either the ’59 Series unis or the EIGHT MEN OUT unis are cool in a wonderfully vintage way. I remember when the White Sox staged the first TBTC game many of the players said they’d just as soon wear those unis all the time.

    —Ricko[/quote]
    Those 1917 replicas did look great, solid white socks and all.

    And who was that slender, Jheri-curled kid playing right field?

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”296243″]Memo to Mr. Buck, there is Clearwater and there is Clearwater Beach. Old Coachman Road (Phils ST) is 8 miles from CLW Beach.[/quote]

    While making the trip from one to the other, you can visit the very spot where the formally incarcerated Nick Hogan turned his best friend into a vegetable.

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”296240″][quote comment=”296236″]so larry…

    i guess (other than the kc ballclub being there), this has gotta be your wet dream of an october classic, eh?[/quote]

    Really even better than if KC was there (thankfully that won’t happen). I can’t remember watching a WS where there wasn’t apathy (2002, ‘05), hatred (2003) or where I was rooting hard for just one team (2004, ‘06 and not the Sox!)

    Tomorrow night, though, I will have to temper my TB enthusiasm because of the immediate company I will be keeping.[/quote]
    ’06 was actually the Cards & Tigers.

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”296243″]Memo to Mr. Buck, there is Clearwater and there is Clearwater Beach. Old Coachman Road (Phils ST) is 8 miles from CLW Beach.[/quote]

    Buck’s the one who went all Church Lady when Randy Moss pantomimed mooning (didn’t actually moon, Joe) the Packer crowd. He was just all a’tizzy. Would have been nice if he’d known what every visiting player who has ever played at Lambeau knows…Packer fans moon (actually moon, now) the visiting team in the parking lot after games. Have for years.

  • John in KY | October 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”296111″]I work for the athletic dept. at the University of Alabama and i checked the records and those helments were white. they just might have been old and an off white color.[/quote]

    Well youngsters let me tell you about clear shell helmets. Back in that era Alabama was using Macgregor clear shell helmets that were painted on the inside. The so-called “clear shell” wasn’t 100% clear; they were slightly blue-grey in color – so they showed up slightly grey, particularly under lights at night.

    For those of you who noticed the similarity between Schutt helmets and the old Macgregor/Kelley helmets, you are also right. The Air Power helmet was developed by neurologists at the University of Michigan in the early 1970s. Michigan was a Macgregor school in the early 1970s, so I’ve always assumed that the developers must have grabbed some old Macgregor shells from the team’s equipment manager when they were designing the foam padding and air bladder system. They probably assumed they could just use that style shell, but it turned out that when Macgregor dropped their helmet line Bill Kelley bought the molds and put it back into production. By the time the Air Power helmet made it into production by Bike in 1976, they wound up changing the shell design slightly – specifically the Air helmet shell has more of a “lip” on the edge, like a Riddell helmet than the Macgregor/Kelley shell. As an interesting side note, the Air helmet wasn’t ready until 1976 but Macgregor dropped their helmets in 1974, so Michigan wore Rawlings helmets from 1974 until they started mixing in the Bike Air helmets in 1976. Bike spun off the Air helmets in 1986, and Schutt bought the spin-off in 1987.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”296242″]I rarely grumble about announcers, but McCarver does get to me.[/quote]

    what’s the difference between tim mccarver and appendicitis? appendicitis is covered by most health plans…

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 10:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”296249″][quote comment=”296242″]I rarely grumble about announcers, but McCarver does get to me.[/quote]

    what’s the difference between tim mccarver and appendicitis? appendicitis is covered by most health plans…[/quote]

    And we can easily live without an appendix, too. Wouldn’t even notice it was gone.

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 10:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”296246″][quote comment=”296240″][quote comment=”296236″]so larry…

    i guess (other than the kc ballclub being there), this has gotta be your wet dream of an october classic, eh?[/quote]

    Really even better than if KC was there (thankfully that won’t happen). I can’t remember watching a WS where there wasn’t apathy (2002, ‘05), hatred (2003) or where I was rooting hard for just one team (2004, ‘06 and not the Sox!)

    Tomorrow night, though, I will have to temper my TB enthusiasm because of the immediate company I will be keeping.[/quote]
    ’06 was actually the Cards & Tigers.[/quote]

    Yeah, worded incorrectly, rooting for the Cards, just didn’t want anyone to think I’ve EVER rooted for Boston.

    Interesting Ricko, I never heard that about the “exposure” issue in GB. Not to defend Buck on that one, it is difficult to know all the local “customs” of fans and how they relate to an episode. Would it be all that much of a stretch to think Randy Moss did something distasteful?

    My comment about Buck was a bit tongue-in-cheek although I know for certain that he knows the difference between CLW and CLW Beach.

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”296249″][quote comment=”296242″]I rarely grumble about announcers, but McCarver does get to me.[/quote]

    what’s the difference between tim mccarver and appendicitis? appendicitis is covered by most health plans…[/quote]
    I think what bugs me most about BucCarver is that, even after all these years, there is still basically no chemistry between them. It’s like they’re in different booths; Buck calls play by play, then after an awkward pause, McCarver interjects some semi-relevant point. It’s like in a video game from 1995.

  • Stuby | October 22, 2008 at 10:31 pm |

    For God’s sake, can someone please tell Joe Morgan that the Ray’s pitcher is not named ‘cashmere’.

  • Ricko | October 22, 2008 at 10:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”296251″][quote comment=”296246″][quote comment=”296240″][quote comment=”296236″]so larry…

    i guess (other than the kc ballclub being there), this has gotta be your wet dream of an october classic, eh?[/quote]

    Really even better than if KC was there (thankfully that won’t happen). I can’t remember watching a WS where there wasn’t apathy (2002, ‘05), hatred (2003) or where I was rooting hard for just one team (2004, ‘06 and not the Sox!)

    Tomorrow night, though, I will have to temper my TB enthusiasm because of the immediate company I will be keeping.[/quote]
    ’06 was actually the Cards & Tigers.[/quote]

    Yeah, worded incorrectly, rooting for the Cards, just didn’t want anyone to think I’ve EVER rooted for Boston.

    Interesting Ricko, I never heard that about the “exposure” issue in GB. Not to defend Buck on that one, it is difficult to know all the local “customs” of fans and how they relate to an episode. Would it be all that much of a stretch to think Randy Moss did something distasteful?

    My comment about Buck was a bit tongue-in-cheek although I know for certain that he knows the difference between CLW and CLW Beach.[/quote]

    re: Buck and Moss. Oh, I know he couldn’t have known everything. Those of us who did know about that quaint little “custom” just laughed and kinda thought “good for Moss, about time someone did that.” Then, of course, “but maybe not such a good idea.” My point about Buck was that his reaction was like a Sunday school teacher who’d just heard someone say “nipple.” Out loud. In public. Thought he was gonna swoon.

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 10:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”296191″][quote comment=”296187″][quote comment=”296162″]I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.[/quote]

    You can also click on the Nike “Leave Nothing” commercial, the one with Shawne Merriman and Steven Jackson. I always loved that commercial. One of my old man’s favorite movies is “Last of the Mohicans” and the commercial just floored him. Now, of course, onto the uni anachronisms in that commercial:

    (1) The Vikings have white cleats instead of black
    (2) The Seahawks have white cleats instead of black
    (3) The Steelers have black cleats instead of white
    (4) Right at the end a #4 runs in to make the tackle on Jackson. Was Jackson a return man at some point? Unless it’s a kickoff or a punt, there’s no reason for a single digit player to be out on the field on defense when the Rams are on offense. Someone must have figured that out because I recall it being corrected at one point and it was switched to a number in the 40’s.[/quote]
    The “Leave Nothing” series is really well done. I was not thrilled to see the one with LT running roughshod over the Bears, though.

    As far as the uni-related issues in the Merriman/Jackson one, isn’t there also a Seahawk wearing #80? Or was that corrected as well? I can’t check now because I’m at work.[/quote]

    You are absolutely correct, JTH. #80 attempts to make a tackle, I haven’t seen the ad in a year, but I distinctly remember that!

  • Brian | October 22, 2008 at 10:43 pm |

    I actually like Joe Buck, it’s only Tim that I can’t stand.

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 10:43 pm |

    LIVE MICS ARE COOL!!!

  • MPowers1634 | October 22, 2008 at 10:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”296188″][quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Gee…actual of photo of why I’ve quit watching basketball over the past few years. Utterly, completely stopped. Just don’t care anymore. Not cuz of uni styles, cuz of what they reflect about the general attitude in and around the game.

    For example, could we lose the handslapping after a made free throw? Jeez, it’s just a frickin’ free throw. As a team, go about your business and shoot the next one.[/quote]

    Ricko, I promised Phil that I’d cease and desist with the age-oriented barbs, but you are severely testing the bounds of my self-control with responses such as the one above!

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”296254″][quote comment=”296251″][quote comment=”296246″][quote comment=”296240″][quote comment=”296236″]so larry…

    i guess (other than the kc ballclub being there), this has gotta be your wet dream of an october classic, eh?[/quote]

    Really even better than if KC was there (thankfully that won’t happen). I can’t remember watching a WS where there wasn’t apathy (2002, ‘05), hatred (2003) or where I was rooting hard for just one team (2004, ‘06 and not the Sox!)

    Tomorrow night, though, I will have to temper my TB enthusiasm because of the immediate company I will be keeping.[/quote]
    ’06 was actually the Cards & Tigers.[/quote]

    Yeah, worded incorrectly, rooting for the Cards, just didn’t want anyone to think I’ve EVER rooted for Boston.

    Interesting Ricko, I never heard that about the “exposure” issue in GB. Not to defend Buck on that one, it is difficult to know all the local “customs” of fans and how they relate to an episode. Would it be all that much of a stretch to think Randy Moss did something distasteful?

    My comment about Buck was a bit tongue-in-cheek although I know for certain that he knows the difference between CLW and CLW Beach.[/quote]

    Thought he was gonna swoon.[/quote]

    Oh, no doubt about that.

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”296257″]LIVE MICS ARE COOL!!![/quote]
    THAT’S BULLSHIT!!

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 10:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”296260″][quote comment=”296257″]LIVE MICS ARE COOL!!![/quote]
    THAT’S BULLSHIT!![/quote]

    Wonder if it will make this week’s “Sounds of the Games”

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”296252″][quote comment=”296249″][quote comment=”296242″]I rarely grumble about announcers, but McCarver does get to me.[/quote]

    what’s the difference between tim mccarver and appendicitis? appendicitis is covered by most health plans…[/quote]
    I think what bugs me most about BucCarver is that, even after all these years, there is still basically no chemistry between them. It’s like they’re in different booths; Buck calls play by play, then after an awkward pause, McCarver interjects some semi-relevant point. It’s like in a video game from 1995.[/quote]
    I once heard that Jack Buck hated working with Tim McCarver so much that Buck wanted a piece of plywood to be placed between them in the broadcast booth so he wouldn’t have to see McCarver’s face. I wonder if that hatred was passed down to the next generation.

  • Lwiedy | October 22, 2008 at 11:02 pm |

    BTW
    I am currently TiVOing a flick on IFC called “Brotherhood of Death” from 1976. I looked it up on IMDB and counted SIX members of the 1975 Washington Redskins including Roy Jefferson and RB Mike Thomas among the cast.

  • LI Phil | October 22, 2008 at 11:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”296262″]I once heard that Jack Buck hated working with Tim McCarver so much that Buck wanted a piece of plywood to be placed between them in the broadcast booth so he wouldn’t have to see McCarver’s face. I wonder if that hatred was passed down to the next generation.[/quote]

    that happened when tim came into the booth without make up…prior to screaming for the plywood, buck was heard to utter to the producer “i don’t believe what i just saw”

  • JTH | October 22, 2008 at 11:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”296264″][quote comment=”296262″]I once heard that Jack Buck hated working with Tim McCarver so much that Buck wanted a piece of plywood to be placed between them in the broadcast booth so he wouldn’t have to see McCarver’s face. I wonder if that hatred was passed down to the next generation.[/quote]

    that happened when tim came into the booth without make up…prior to screaming for the plywood, buck was heard to utter to the producer “i don’t believe what i just saw”[/quote]
    Nicely done, Phil. Touch ’em all.

    OK, so about that Kirk Gibson home run call: Buck was working the radio booth in the ’88 series, right? Did he ever explain to the folks who were listening what the fuck it was that he just saw?

  • LarenR | October 22, 2008 at 11:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”296261″][quote comment=”296260″][quote comment=”296257″]LIVE MICS ARE COOL!!![/quote]
    THAT’S BULLSHIT!![/quote]

    Wonder if it will make this week’s “Sounds of the Games”[/quote]
    i’m gonna guess…no.

  • C.N. | October 22, 2008 at 11:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”296206″]Please, please, PLEASE…stick your index finger down your throat, touch your uvula and move it until you gag and cough.

    Remove your finger from your mouth and wipe off any excess saliva. Then…sniff your finger.

    It will smell like you literally pulled it out of your hot, slimy and wet sphincter.[/quote]

    Um… administrators?

  • The Hemogoblin | October 22, 2008 at 11:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”296265″][quote comment=”296264″][quote comment=”296262″]I once heard that Jack Buck hated working with Tim McCarver so much that Buck wanted a piece of plywood to be placed between them in the broadcast booth so he wouldn’t have to see McCarver’s face. I wonder if that hatred was passed down to the next generation.[/quote]

    that happened when tim came into the booth without make up…prior to screaming for the plywood, buck was heard to utter to the producer “i don’t believe what i just saw”[/quote]
    Nicely done, Phil. Touch ’em all.

    OK, so about that Kirk Gibson home run call: Buck was working the radio booth in the ’88 series, right? Did he ever explain to the folks who were listening what the fuck it was that he just saw?[/quote]

    Vin Scully. Sorry guys.

  • The Hemogoblin | October 22, 2008 at 11:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”296267″][quote comment=”296206″]Please, please, PLEASE…stick your index finger down your throat, touch your uvula and move it until you gag and cough.

    Remove your finger from your mouth and wipe off any excess saliva. Then…sniff your finger.

    It will smell like you literally pulled it out of your hot, slimy and wet sphincter.[/quote]

    Um… administrators?[/quote]

    Overrated.

  • Cory d | October 22, 2008 at 11:55 pm |

    anyone watching the world series on tv just see the sign they just showed?…

    “Puck Fhilly”

  • LarenR | October 23, 2008 at 12:01 am |

    Joe: Wait, Tim, does Lidge ever throw a slider?

  • Ricko | October 23, 2008 at 12:03 am |

    [quote comment=”296258″][quote comment=”296188″][quote comment=”296175″]#14…WOW!
    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Gee…actual of photo of why I’ve quit watching basketball over the past few years. Utterly, completely stopped. Just don’t care anymore. Not cuz of uni styles, cuz of what they reflect about the general attitude in and around the game.

    For example, could we lose the handslapping after a made free throw? Jeez, it’s just a frickin’ free throw. As a team, go about your business and shoot the next one.[/quote]

    Ricko, I promised Phil that I’d cease and desist with the age-oriented barbs, but you are severely testing the bounds of my self-control with responses such as the one above![/quote]

    A little class on the court is ageless.

    I think. What were walking about again…?

  • Lwiedy | October 23, 2008 at 12:10 am |

    [quote comment=”296268″][quote comment=”296265″][quote comment=”296264″][quote comment=”296262″]I once heard that Jack Buck hated working with Tim McCarver so much that Buck wanted a piece of plywood to be placed between them in the broadcast booth so he wouldn’t have to see McCarver’s face. I wonder if that hatred was passed down to the next generation.[/quote]

    that happened when tim came into the booth without make up…prior to screaming for the plywood, buck was heard to utter to the producer “i don’t believe what i just saw”[/quote]
    Nicely done, Phil. Touch ’em all.

    OK, so about that Kirk Gibson home run call: Buck was working the radio booth in the ’88 series, right? Did he ever explain to the folks who were listening what the fuck it was that he just saw?[/quote]

    Vin Scully. Sorry guys.[/quote]

    Both right (or wrong). Buck (on TV) did the “I don’t believe what I just saw”

    Uni matter. Rays good WS sleeve patch placement, Phils, too high.

  • LI Phil | October 23, 2008 at 12:13 am |

    [quote]Phils, too high.[/quote]

    dude…i aint smoked in like 5 years

  • Mike | October 23, 2008 at 12:16 am |

    Don’t know if this has been posted.
    Buy a jersey, Yet you don’t know what it looks like.
    Sharks third jersey.
    http://sharks.nhl.co...

  • LI Phil | October 23, 2008 at 12:37 am |

    [quote]Nicely done, Phil. Touch ‘em all.[/quote]

    nice return, jth…tom cheek

  • Ryan | October 23, 2008 at 1:14 am |

    [quote comment=”296187″][quote comment=”296162″]I don’t want to belabor this point, but I had my wife watch the commercial I was raving about last night and it actually made her cry.[/quote]

    You can also click on the Nike “Leave Nothing” commercial, the one with Shawne Merriman and Steven Jackson. I always loved that commercial. One of my old man’s favorite movies is “Last of the Mohicans” and the commercial just floored him. Now, of course, onto the uni anachronisms in that commercial:

    (1) The Vikings have white cleats instead of black
    (2) The Seahawks have white cleats instead of black
    (3) The Steelers have black cleats instead of white
    (4) Right at the end a #4 runs in to make the tackle on Jackson. Was Jackson a return man at some point? Unless it’s a kickoff or a punt, there’s no reason for a single digit player to be out on the field on defense when the Rams are on offense. Someone must have figured that out because I recall it being corrected at one point and it was switched to a number in the 40’s.[/quote]

    In the LT/Polamalu commercial, the game is in San Diego (as evidenced by the Chargers banners in the background) yet the Chargers are wearing road whites and the Steelers are in their home black jerseys.

  • BurghFan | October 23, 2008 at 1:54 am |

    Buck (on TV) did the “I don’t believe what I just saw”

    Buck was on radio; Scully on TV.

  • zach | October 23, 2008 at 5:05 am |
  • Josh A | October 23, 2008 at 7:13 am |

    The AHL’s Portland Pirates will be wearing pink breast cancer awareness jerseys this weekend.

    http://www.portlandp...

  • Tim | October 23, 2008 at 7:29 am |

    [quote comment=”296277″]In the LT/Polamalu commercial, the game is in San Diego (as evidenced by the Chargers banners in the background) yet the Chargers are wearing road whites and the Steelers are in their home black jerseys.[/quote]

    San Diego does wear white at home on occasion, usually early in the season on hot days. Then again, this is a night game, so they would most likely be wearing blue. But it’s not ENTIRELY out of the realm of possibility that they would wear white at home.

  • Spence | October 23, 2008 at 8:01 am |

    Bill gates has a new company and a pretty sweet logo for it. The Name is BGC3

    Here is the logo:
    http://gizmodo.com/5...

  • mike | October 23, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    No right-minded Canadian uses the term ‘breezers’.