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Clearing Out The Mailbag

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Still Bryan here. Sorry, Paul fans. He’ll be back on Thursday.

But now, it’s … Tuesday. And Chase Daniel wore No. 25 on Saturday. You’re late.

Yeah, I know. I have my reasons (note: they’re all lame). I’ve received more than a few emails about the Chase Daniel thing, so here’s the deal:

From Missouri head coach Gary Pinkel, after a game earlier this season — “Every week the captains will select a player to wear his number and represent Aaron O’Neil (who died July 12, 2005, after a voluntary conditioning workout, due to causes later identified as lymphocytic (viral) meningitis. – br) in his senior year. We just think that’s a great way of honoring him, not only for the fans and for the players but certainly to honor him for his family. The seniors came up with that idea and I think it was an excellent one.”

A good idea in both spirit and execution. The result is more jarring when Daniel wears it compared to, say, the backup wedge buster on special teams, but I like it regardless.

Now, on to other things. I’ve had a few good ticker submissions that needed a little more explanation, so here are a few of them before the actual ticker. (And I’ll have more on Thursday.)
Michael DeAloia has been doing some research for his Cleveland history blog when he came across these two photos. The first is of the 1908 East Tech High team. “Love the turtlenecks with the big “E” on the front. And check out the various striped socks. Very cool.” The second photo is of the 1932 East Tech High squad. Michael says he wishes the photos were in color — I agree. Thanks for the note, Michael.

Greg Netherwood was out bowling the other night and … eh, I’ll let him tell the story: “in the bowling alley they have one of the New York State Lottery scratch off game vending machines. Since I had gone to the bowling alley wearing my authentic David Wright jersey, I thought it fitting that the scratch off I bought should be the all new “New York Mets” scratch off, showing a beautifully lit up Shea Stadium in the background. As I perused the game’s rules on the card, I noticed something peculiar. One of the instant win options was, and I quote, “Reveal a glove symbol, win DOUBLE the prize shown.” The glove symbol shown was none other than the old Milwaukee Brewers logo. The website even shows an example of the ticket, and in the explanation, shows the Brewers logo as well.”

Caleb Borchers checks in with some South African logo shenanigans. “For years the debate over keeping the Springbok logo in South Africa has been raging.  For many the Springbok is still a symbol of the apartheid era. Now, the official decision (until a billion appeals) to axe the logo on any national team has come.  The government claims this is final, but I promise the crap will hit the fan if this is actually enforced.” More info here and here.

Uni Watch news ticker: Some insight into the rugby question from yesterday, courtesty of Don Montgomery: “Ireland beat Scotland on Feb. 23, 2008, by a 34-13 score. It was their last 6 Nations victory, as they lost to Wales, then England after that. My assumption is that they’re simply wearing their last 6 Nations victory on their kit. Other than that, I don’t know. The Scotland match, other than the victory, didn’t have anything else so memorable about it.” We thank you for the info, Don. … Wow. Sweet. Thanks, Steve Lega. … Good idea, bad execution. Mark Kaplowitz on the tip. … Very, very interesting helmet decal on Ferndale High School in Michigan. Thank you for the note, Arden Smith. … Hey, you know that nasty one-day 49ers logo? A helmet with that decal was on eBay recently. Robert Eden had the tip on that one. … Following up on the cancer awareness item from yesterday, Jose Palacios reports that the Mexican soccer league uses a pink ball all through October. … John Muir was at the Islanders’ season opener and spotted a custom blade on the stick of St. Louis goalie Chris Mason. Patrick Lalime has a customized stick, too. … This was in my paper today, and I missed it. David McGee did not. … Funny Team of 18,000 commercial here, with thanks to Mark Coale.

 

188 comments to Clearing Out The Mailbag

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 7:18 am |

    You used the pink ball link for the UVa picture

    Easy mistake, I know

  • Roger Faso | October 14, 2008 at 7:40 am |

    The 49er helmet and hockey commercial have been tickered before.

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 7:53 am |

    A repost from last night but albeit relevant:

    Speaking of Schutt, I was in Modell’s today and came across these youth Shoulder pads, made by Schutt:

    http://www.dowdlespo

    Look familiar:
    http://seattletimes….

    Also check out these pads made by Schutt:

    http://www.schuttspo

    http://www.schuttspo

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 7:55 am |

    Watched Red Wings/Hurricanes game last night, or should I call them the Carolina ‘Tropical Storms’ with their black single flagged unis.

    Didn’t look AS bad as I thought, still bad mind you, but not as bad. Those socks did piss me off though…

  • whatupdo | October 14, 2008 at 8:13 am |

    Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

  • Billy | October 14, 2008 at 8:18 am |

    [quote comment=”294716″]Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

    I like how the Rochester Adams Highlanders have inverted the “V” in Virginia’s logo to make an “A”.

  • Robert | October 14, 2008 at 8:22 am |

    [quote comment=”294713″]The 49er helmet and hockey commercial have been tickered before.[/quote]

    True. I forwarded the 49ers helmet link with a note that the high bidder flaked on the seller, and he still has it for sale if anyone is interested. I figured that something so rare as that one-day logo, and autographed no less, would easily get snapped up for a mere two hundred bucks.

  • Liam | October 14, 2008 at 8:26 am |

    RE: The Ireland Rugby jersey.

    I believe that all the jerseys have the opponent and date stitched on for each game, as this game from the subsequent match against Wales definitely has something written in the same place:

    http://www.irishrugb...

    and here’s the jersey from the England – Ireland match which makes it a little clearer

    http://www.irishrugb...

    Football teams do it too (though again, it’s pretty hard to read)

    http://img.skysports...

  • Liam | October 14, 2008 at 8:28 am |

    Ignore that last link, its broken. This shows what I’m talking about

    http://i.dailymail.c...

  • Liam | October 14, 2008 at 8:31 am |

    damn my links are awful today. Could someone delete the last one and pray this works…

    http://www.10thhussa...

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 8:32 am |

    [quote comment=”294717″][quote comment=”294716″]Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

    I like how the Rochester Adams Highlanders have inverted the “V” in Virginia’s logo to make an “A”.[/quote]

    Check out some other interesting helmet logos I found this weekend:

    John Jay East Fishkill in Suburban New York with a very wierd Patriots logo:

    http://jukebox.lohud...

    http://jukebox.lohud...

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 8:42 am |

    RIP

    …look for some form of memorial from teh blue shirts soon

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    [quote comment=”294714″]A repost from last night but albeit relevant:

    Speaking of Schutt, I was in Modell’s today and came across these youth Shoulder pads, made by Schutt:

    http://www.dowdlespo...

    Look familiar:
    http://seattletimes....

    Also check out these pads made by Schutt:

    http://www.schuttspo...

    http://www.schuttspo...

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL

  • Jon | October 14, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    My Alma Mata Saint Anselm College recently changed thier helmet logo to something very interesting. It is kind off a knock-off. They are the Hawks. The design has a the front of michigan in white, but with out the lines going back. Then the lower back it all white as well with a blue top of the helmet.

    http://athletics.ans...

  • Rick Chaney | October 14, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    From the Baltimore Sun:

    The power of Terps uniform colors

    Fridge says he lies awake at night pondering new ways to motivate his players. That includes thinking about jerseys.

    Equipment manager Ron Ohringer was telling me recently about the time he and the coach surprised even the players by switching to black jerseys for the Virginia homecoming game in 2005.

    “The team didn’t even know the black jerseys were here. It was basically only myself and coach Friedgen that knew,” Ohringer said.

    “We had the red jersey with the white pants,” he said. “But when they were outside for warmups we pulled out the black jerseys and put them out by their lockers. And as they were coming in from warmups, it was kind of like we had just won the Super Bowl. They were just going nuts,” Ohringer said.

    Who knows if the jerseys had anything to do with it, but the Terps rolled up 33 first downs and 570 total yards and beat Virginia 45-33.

    Maryland’s main colors, of course, are red and white. But there’s been talk of incorporating more gold into the design.

    Uniform changes are delicate propositions.

    “Coach Friedgen doesn’t stop talking about how many letters he got when he first got hired to get away from black helmets. The alumni think of us as red and white and they don’t want black as a primary uniform color,” Ohringer said.

    “I think we pretty much stick with red and white as our primary uniforms. Black is a trim color. It’s every now and then,” he said.

  • dm00n | October 14, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”294716″]Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

    Ferndale never had that script on their helmets when we played them, I wonder when they added it. My dad was a center on a state championship team from Ferndale in the 1960s. I should ask him what, if anything, was on their helmets. I am pretty sure they were just brown and white then, at least that is what his letter sweater is.

  • Mike Calagna | October 14, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    Islander’s wore white at home yesterday…something that needs to continue around the NHL

  • Hank | October 14, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”294729″]Islander’s wore white at home yesterday…something that needs to continue around the NHL[/quote]

    I recall reading that there is (or was) a move afoot to switch back to home team wearing white. Don’t see it happening as it would mean fans would be less inclined to buy a team’s 3rd jersey.

    Money, money, money. M-O-N-E-Y . . . .

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”294730″][quote comment=”294729″]Islander’s wore white at home yesterday…something that needs to continue around the NHL[/quote]

    I recall reading that there is (or was) a move afoot to switch back to home team wearing white. Don’t see it happening as it would mean fans would be less inclined to buy a team’s 3rd jersey.

    Money, money, money. M-O-N-E-Y . . . .[/quote]

    That’s why the switch was made in the first place. All those teams coming out with third jerseys which are usually dark, wearing white at home was a huge inconvience for teams visiting becuase they were asked to bring two sets of equipment. Wearing dark at home, you can wear a dark third without bothering the other team. With Dallas and TOR having white thirds maybe this is a start of a movement back to whites at home. Doubt it, but it’d be sweet…

  • dgc | October 14, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”294730″][quote comment=”294729″]Islander’s wore white at home yesterday…something that needs to continue around the NHL[/quote]

    I recall reading that there is (or was) a move afoot to switch back to home team wearing white. Don’t see it happening as it would mean fans would be less inclined to buy a team’s 3rd jersey.

    Money, money, money. M-O-N-E-Y . . . .[/quote]

    NHL exec: Sales of white jerseys is down.
    Bettman: Switch to white at home. Require all teams to encourage having white-outs. Problem solved.
    NHL exec: But most teams have colored thirds.
    Bettman: Get teams to come up with a fourth jersey in white.

  • Dan | October 14, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid they actually wear a jersey that is one of their main colors. God forbid they actually wear that color with the logo that fans have been longing for the Canes to use as the jersey crest for years. God forbid they actually tap into an area in which they will inevitably make a ton of money off of when the franchise is year in and year out right on the break even point.

    Jesus Christ, get off your fucking high horse. The Canes looked good last night. Other than the stupid socks, thats one of the better 3rd jerseys out there. Just because they decide to go with black (mind you, their colors are red and black with white as a trim, so I don’t see where the outrage is in actually wearing one of their colors) doesn’t mean they’re just following in the long line of other teams. Where the fuck else did you expect them to go? Another red jersey? Boring. A silver jersey? Yeah, and people like you would be on here whining your fucking ass off ad naseum because of how hideous they were.

    Fuck off with your stupid ass whining. Sorry they don’t go back to the 20’s with their design like the Original 6 teams do. As far as the design itself, judging from the rest of the Reebok jerseys in the NHL right now, its in the upper tier of great looks.

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”294727″]From the Baltimore Sun:

    The power of Terps uniform colors

    Fridge says he lies awake at night pondering new ways to motivate his players. That includes thinking about jerseys.

    Equipment manager Ron Ohringer was telling me recently about the time he and the coach surprised even the players by switching to black jerseys for the Virginia homecoming game in 2005.

    “The team didn’t even know the black jerseys were here. It was basically only myself and coach Friedgen that knew,” Ohringer said.

    “We had the red jersey with the white pants,” he said. “But when they were outside for warmups we pulled out the black jerseys and put them out by their lockers. And as they were coming in from warmups, it was kind of like we had just won the Super Bowl. They were just going nuts,” Ohringer said.

    Who knows if the jerseys had anything to do with it, but the Terps rolled up 33 first downs and 570 total yards and beat Virginia 45-33.

    Maryland’s main colors, of course, are red and white. But there’s been talk of incorporating more gold into the design.

    Uniform changes are delicate propositions.

    “Coach Friedgen doesn’t stop talking about how many letters he got when he first got hired to get away from black helmets. The alumni think of us as red and white and they don’t want black as a primary uniform color,” Ohringer said.

    “I think we pretty much stick with red and white as our primary uniforms. Black is a trim color. It’s every now and then,” he said.[/quote]

    The University of Maryland uses the colors or their state flag EXTREMELY well within their uniforms.

    I especially love how in their basketball gear, the yellow and black are used for the piping.

    http://a712.g.akamai...

    They also have four sets of Hoops unis for the men:

    Red:
    http://cache.daylife...

    Yellow:
    http://cache.daylife...

    White:
    http://cache.daylife...

    Very strange, UM has never made the white shorts available to the public for retail!

    Black: Eastbay used to carry a black uni but I cannnot, for the lefe of me, find evidence of it!

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid they actually wear a jersey that is one of their main colors. God forbid they actually wear that color with the logo that fans have been longing for the Canes to use as the jersey crest for years. God forbid they actually tap into an area in which they will inevitably make a ton of money off of when the franchise is year in and year out right on the break even point.

    Jesus Christ, get off your fucking high horse. The Canes looked good last night. Other than the stupid socks, thats one of the better 3rd jerseys out there. Just because they decide to go with black (mind you, their colors are red and black with white as a trim, so I don’t see where the outrage is in actually wearing one of their colors) doesn’t mean they’re just following in the long line of other teams. Where the fuck else did you expect them to go? Another red jersey? Boring. A silver jersey? Yeah, and people like you would be on here whining your fucking ass off ad naseum because of how hideous they were.

    Fuck off with your stupid ass whining. Sorry they don’t go back to the 20’s with their design like the Original 6 teams do. As far as the design itself, judging from the rest of the Reebok jerseys in the NHL right now, its in the upper tier of great looks.[/quote]

    We’re all here for the same reason. All opinions are welcome as is disagreement with those opinions!

    No reason to get upset, lets try to keep it friendly!

  • steve | October 14, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    Anyone see Derek Lowe rip off his jersey in between the middle of the first inning last night? Does he just have an endless supply of crisp white jerseys in his locker?

  • […] Bryan Redemske wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptCaleb Borchers checks in with some South African blogo/b shenanigans. “For years the debate over keeping the Springbok blogo/b in South Africa has been raging. For many the Springbok is still a symbol of the apartheid era. b…/b […]

  • chance | October 14, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”294717″][quote comment=”294716″]Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

    I like how the Rochester Adams Highlanders have inverted the “V” in Virginia’s logo to make an “A”.[/quote]

    The Cavaliers’ sabers don’t make a whole lot of sense for “Highlanders”, though.

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”294726″]My Alma Mata Saint Anselm College recently changed thier helmet logo to something very interesting. It is kind off a knock-off. They are the Hawks. The design has a the front of michigan in white, but with out the lines going back. Then the lower back it all white as well with a blue top of the helmet.

    http://athletics.ans...

    St. Anselm’s helmets go back aways:
    http://athletics.ans...

  • Fleeser | October 14, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”294717″][quote comment=”294716″]Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

    I like how the Rochester Adams Highlanders have inverted the “V” in Virginia’s logo to make an “A”.[/quote]

    I played against Rochester Adams and I always loved their helmets.

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid they actually wear a jersey that is one of their main colors. God forbid they actually wear that color with the logo that fans have been longing for the Canes to use as the jersey crest for years. God forbid they actually tap into an area in which they will inevitably make a ton of money off of when the franchise is year in and year out right on the break even point.

    Jesus Christ, get off your fucking high horse. The Canes looked good last night. Other than the stupid socks, thats one of the better 3rd jerseys out there. Just because they decide to go with black (mind you, their colors are red and black with white as a trim, so I don’t see where the outrage is in actually wearing one of their colors) doesn’t mean they’re just following in the long line of other teams. Where the fuck else did you expect them to go? Another red jersey? Boring. A silver jersey? Yeah, and people like you would be on here whining your fucking ass off ad naseum because of how hideous they were.

    Fuck off with your stupid ass whining. Sorry they don’t go back to the 20’s with their design like the Original 6 teams do. As far as the design itself, judging from the rest of the Reebok jerseys in the NHL right now, its in the upper tier of great looks.[/quote]

    Wow, didn’t know my opinion was wrong…. my apologies.

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”294741″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid they actually wear a jersey that is one of their main colors. God forbid they actually wear that color with the logo that fans have been longing for the Canes to use as the jersey crest for years. God forbid they actually tap into an area in which they will inevitably make a ton of money off of when the franchise is year in and year out right on the break even point.

    Jesus Christ, get off your fucking high horse. The Canes looked good last night. Other than the stupid socks, thats one of the better 3rd jerseys out there. Just because they decide to go with black (mind you, their colors are red and black with white as a trim, so I don’t see where the outrage is in actually wearing one of their colors) doesn’t mean they’re just following in the long line of other teams. Where the fuck else did you expect them to go? Another red jersey? Boring. A silver jersey? Yeah, and people like you would be on here whining your fucking ass off ad naseum because of how hideous they were.

    Fuck off with your stupid ass whining. Sorry they don’t go back to the 20’s with their design like the Original 6 teams do. As far as the design itself, judging from the rest of the Reebok jerseys in the NHL right now, its in the upper tier of great looks.[/quote]

    Wow, didn’t know my opinion was wrong…. my apologies.[/quote]

    i guess that was directed to both of us, jim…

    that’s all imo say about it…his response doesn’t even deserve a reply

  • Mark in Cincy | October 14, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”294717″][quote comment=”294716″]Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

    I like how the Rochester Adams Highlanders have inverted the “V” in Virginia’s logo to make an “A”.[/quote]
    The Troy Athens Redhawks logo is exactly the same as the University of Miami’s (OH) used to be, they switched to a big red M this year

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    A few NFL pics from the past weekend:

    LT:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    Giants/Browns:
    http://static.nfl.co...

    http://static.nfl.co...

  • Jon | October 14, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”294739″][quote comment=”294726″]My Alma Mata Saint Anselm College recently changed thier helmet logo to something very interesting. It is kind off a knock-off. They are the Hawks. The design has a the front of michigan in white, but with out the lines going back. Then the lower back it all white as well with a blue top of the helmet.

    http://athletics.ans...

    St. Anselm’s helmets go back aways:
    http://athletics.ans...

    You’re right. St. A’s actually cut football for over 40 years. When they got the program back they wanted to do the old logo again but are in the same league with Pace university who had the same helmet as michigam at the time. St. A’s went with a blue helmet and a white A on each side. then last year the school changed logos. It had some stupid hawk head with SAINT ANSELM inside it in an over shape and they put that on the helmet, it looked awful.

  • Zurk | October 14, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    Somebody pee’d in his cornflakes this morning…

  • The Ol Goaler | October 14, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    For whatever reason, Patrick Lalime identifies with Marvin the Martian… hence the “eyes” on his stick and his mask, no matter which team he’s with at the time…

    Me, I wore a mask with this guy on it, so I can’t beef!

  • Wes | October 14, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    Looks like MLB is adopting a new logo for the playoffs in honor of the 5-hour games :)

    http://www.startribu...

  • fluxcap | October 14, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    Once again the refs were wearing their cold weather getups on a warm night, and not just “Cleveland warm” My parents were at the game and said it was about 70 out. I know it was a little windy, but come on…at least the refs tend to all be wearing the same thing, which is more than we can say for most teams

  • fluxcap | October 14, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”294749″]Once again the refs were wearing their cold weather getups on a warm night, and not just “Cleveland warm” My parents were at the game and said it was about 70 out. I know it was a little windy, but come on…at least the refs tend to all be wearing the same thing, which is more than we can say for most teams[/quote]

    here’s a pic if you didn’t watch

    http://blog.clevelan...

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”294745″][quote comment=”294739″][quote comment=”294726″]My Alma Mata Saint Anselm College recently changed thier helmet logo to something very interesting. It is kind off a knock-off. They are the Hawks. The design has a the front of michigan in white, but with out the lines going back. Then the lower back it all white as well with a blue top of the helmet.

    http://athletics.ans...

    St. Anselm’s helmets go back aways:
    http://athletics.ans...

    You’re right. St. A’s actually cut football for over 40 years. When they got the program back they wanted to do the old logo again but are in the same league with Pace university who had the same helmet as michigam at the time. St. A’s went with a blue helmet and a white A on each side. then last year the school changed logos. It had some stupid hawk head with SAINT ANSELM inside it in an over shape and they put that on the helmet, it looked awful.[/quote]

    Pace is located across the Tappan Zee Bridge from me. Their starting quarterback attended the High School where I now teach.

    St. Anselm also plays schools like Stonehill, who beat my alma mater this year.

    As for the winged, Michigan/Princeton style helmet decal…I love it, but get bored of seeing it all of the time. 3 or 4 high schools in my area use it with varying color combinations.

    So much can be done with a helmet decal, we really need some ingenuity and new designs!

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”294750″][quote comment=”294749″]Once again the refs were wearing their cold weather getups on a warm night, and not just “Cleveland warm” My parents were at the game and said it was about 70 out. I know it was a little windy, but come on…at least the refs tend to all be wearing the same thing, which is more than we can say for most teams[/quote]

    here’s a pic if you didn’t watch

    http://blog.clevelan...

    Edwards is a good ballplayer but more than that, he can wear a unifrom correctly, without all of the stupid sock shenanigans, although last night, as he sometimes does, he wore black gloves, and rarely does he close the velcro on said gloves:

    http://static.nfl.co...

    http://www.rotorob.c...

    The gloves should be brown, orange, or white…no black!

  • Fleeser | October 14, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”294743″][quote comment=”294717″][quote comment=”294716″]Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

    I like how the Rochester Adams Highlanders have inverted the “V” in Virginia’s logo to make an “A”.[/quote]
    The Troy Athens Redhawks logo is exactly the same as the University of Miami’s (OH) used to be, they switched to a big red M this year[/quote]

    According to the Helmet Project, Miami has had some variation of a red M on their helmets since 1972. Was it a non-helmet logo?

    http://www.nationalc...

  • ToasterPoodle | October 14, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    I don’t have a problem with the black hurricanes jersey. Black is a part of their color scheme, the flag logo, imho, is better than the swirling hurricane mess, and the uni design itself seems better than what they usually wear.

  • Jordan Pope | October 14, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”294744″]A few NFL pics from the past weekend:

    LT:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    Giants/Browns:
    http://static.nfl.co...

    http://static.nfl.co...

    LT is wearing his new PE available next year…the Air LT 2.1

  • Kevin M. | October 14, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote]
    Pace is located across the Tappan Zee Bridge from me. Their starting quarterback attended the High School where I now teach.
    [/quote]

    The Tappan Zee? I’ll be in that area around Christmas. My sister lives in White Plains.

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”294755″][quote comment=”294744″]A few NFL pics from the past weekend:

    LT:
    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    Giants/Browns:
    http://static.nfl.co...

    http://static.nfl.co...

    LT is wearing his new PE available next year…the Air LT 2.1[/quote]

    Good catch JP, I saw your post the other night. They don’t do anything fro me besides the color blocking!

    I’m also not a fan of Detachables, I prefer the TD plate although they are much more feasible!

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”294756″][quote]
    Pace is located across the Tappan Zee Bridge from me. Their starting quarterback attended the High School where I now teach.
    [/quote]

    The Tappan Zee? I’ll be in that area around Christmas. My sister lives in White Plains.[/quote]

    Piermont, 15 minutes from WP!

  • Mark in Cincy | October 14, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”294753″][quote comment=”294743″][quote comment=”294717″][quote comment=”294716″]Different view of Ferndale High helmet

    http://www.michiganh...

    I like how the Rochester Adams Highlanders have inverted the “V” in Virginia’s logo to make an “A”.[/quote]
    The Troy Athens Redhawks logo is exactly the same as the University of Miami’s (OH) used to be, they switched to a big red M this year[/quote]

    According to the Helmet Project, Miami has had some variation of a red M on their helmets since 1972. Was it a non-helmet logo?

    http://www.nationalc...
    That very well may be the case, i didn’t check on that. i just know that the high school’s logo is this logo minus the Miami University wordmark …

  • Jon | October 14, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=\”294751\”][quote comment=\”294745\”][quote comment=\”294739\”][quote comment=\”294726\”]My Alma Mata Saint Anselm College recently changed thier helmet logo to something very interesting. It is kind off a knock-off. They are the Hawks. The design has a the front of michigan in white, but with out the lines going back. Then the lower back it all white as well with a blue top of the helmet.

    http://athletics.ans...

    St. Anselm\’s helmets go back aways:
    http://athletics.ans...

    You\’re right. St. A\’s actually cut football for over 40 years. When they got the program back they wanted to do the old logo again but are in the same league with Pace university who had the same helmet as michigam at the time. St. A\’s went with a blue helmet and a white A on each side. then last year the school changed logos. It had some stupid hawk head with SAINT ANSELM inside it in an over shape and they put that on the helmet, it looked awful.[/quote]

    Pace is located across the Tappan Zee Bridge from me. Their starting quarterback attended the High School where I now teach.

    St. Anselm also plays schools like Stonehill, who beat my alma mater this year.

    As for the winged, Michigan/Princeton style helmet decal…I love it, but get bored of seeing it all of the time. 3 or 4 high schools in my area use it with varying color combinations.

    So much can be done with a helmet decal, we really need some ingenuity and new designs![/quote]

    I like how St. A\’s is a little different design. I live in Mass and we don\’t see that helmet to often. I agree that some new things on helmets would be nice to see.
    On aside note the picture you posted was of Ray Mcclean. He played for the Chicago Bears. He was the last person to succesfully attempt a drop kick until Natick\’s Doyg Flutie made one with the Patriots.

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”294754″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    I don’t have a problem with the black hurricanes jersey. Black is a part of their color scheme, the flag logo, imho, is better than the swirling hurricane mess, and the uni design itself seems better than what they usually wear.[/quote]

    thanks, toaster…that was a well reasoned, thoughtful response…im actually beginning to rethink my position on the canes thirds…as i did say, as far as black alts go, it’s not the worst…and, as you so eloquently pointed out, it is part of their color scheme…

    at least, unlike my favorite baseball team, it’s not just black for black’s sake…

  • odessasteps magazine | October 14, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    I was so expecting to come here today and see those horrible Browns helmets from last night as the main picture, with Bryan saying something like “Did they put those numbers on with a Sharpie?”

  • Ricko | October 14, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”294761″][quote comment=”294754″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    I don’t have a problem with the black hurricanes jersey. Black is a part of their color scheme, the flag logo, imho, is better than the swirling hurricane mess, and the uni design itself seems better than what they usually wear.[/quote]

    thanks, toaster…that was a well reasoned, thoughtful response…im actually beginning to rethink my position on the canes thirds…as i did say, as far as black alts go, it’s not the worst…and, as you so eloquently pointed out, it is part of their color scheme…

    at least, unlike my favorite baseball team, it’s not just black for black’s sake…[/quote]

    Ah, yes, the almost always annoying BFTHOI (“Black For The Hell Of It”). Pronounced, appropriately enough, “biff-toy”.

  • Ricko | October 14, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    Although BFBS (Black For Black’s Sake) works, too.

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    New Virginia Tech basketball unis this year…

    No official release from the school, but the players are all wearing them in their individual pictures…

    http://www.hokiespor...

    Looks like you can add VT into the Nike System of a Dress mix… From the little that you can see, I don’t mind ’em. Supposedly there’s some sort of piping on the shorts, so I guess we’ll have to see the full unveil to get the idea… Luckily, VT’s Midnight Madness is on Friday, so we should have more pictures then.

  • Tom V | October 14, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    “…Pee-wee football action from UVA-ECU last week. Dave Forbes thought both teams were in black. Turns out, one of them is Michigan, minus the yellow pants…” This link isn’t working, its the soccer link in the previous ticker item.

    Secondly, the Hurricanes colors, I was never convinced red and black and white said “hurricane” to me. (I understand the hurricane flag reference.) I would have leaned more towards a darker gray with white, black, blue and green accents. The gray because hurricane clouds are mainly…gray (in know, thats a stretch), and throw the blue and green into the logo as some color, and homage to hartford. The darker gray color would definitely come off as a little more updated than medium gray. I’m ok with the swirling mess and like the flag logo too, I think its definitely one of the teams with a lot of jersey potential, I think the black flag jerseys are a good third jersey, but not great.

  • Jamie | October 14, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    Does anyone else think Michigan’s new uniforms look more like highlighter than maize this year?

  • JAson | October 14, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    I thought the ‘Canes third sweater was pretty sharp, but I think it would look better with red breezers. The red numbers get lost in that sea of black, adding the red would help bring them out.

    Also, the Carolina broadcast team mentioned that the goalie coach for the ‘Canes thinks the black makes Cam Ward look smaller between the pipes and that should give him an advantage.

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”294742″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid blahblahblah (three minutes of crying and whining with some unnecessary profanity)[/quote]

    i guess that was directed to both of us, jim…

    that’s all imo say about it…his response doesn’t even deserve a reply[/quote]

    Bandwagon riders always have an opinion that is never wrong. Worry not, Phil and Jim… real hockey fans know that the Carolina Hurricanes are red, white, and silver with black highlights. Not black. And not gray or any shade of gray either.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    My Big Fat Greek NOB.*

    *Yes, I know she wasn’t in the freaking movie, but she is Greek.

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”294766″]”…Pee-wee football action from UVA-ECU last week. Dave Forbes thought both teams were in black. Turns out, one of them is Michigan, minus the yellow pants…” This link isn’t working, its the soccer link in the previous ticker item.

    Secondly, the Hurricanes colors, I was never convinced red and black and white said “hurricane” to me. (I understand the hurricane flag reference.) I would have leaned more towards a darker gray with white, black, blue and green accents. The gray because hurricane clouds are mainly…gray (in know, thats a stretch), and throw the blue and green into the logo as some color, and homage to hartford. The darker gray color would definitely come off as a little more updated than medium gray. I’m ok with the swirling mess and like the flag logo too, I think its definitely one of the teams with a lot of jersey potential, I think the black flag jerseys are a good third jersey, but not great.[/quote]
    The Hurricanes had to go with the red-black-white color scheme because part of the agreement of them coming to Raleigh was that they would play in and help fund NC State’s new basketball facility. To have a team in there using any variation on the color blue as a primary color would be unthinkable for an NC State facility. Just wouldn’t happen, not with UNC and Duke as their main rivals.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid they actually wear a jersey that is one of their main colors. God forbid they actually wear that color with the logo that fans have been longing for the Canes to use as the jersey crest for years. God forbid they actually tap into an area in which they will inevitably make a ton of money off of when the franchise is year in and year out right on the break even point.

    Jesus Christ, get off your fucking high horse. The Canes looked good last night. Other than the stupid socks, thats one of the better 3rd jerseys out there. Just because they decide to go with black (mind you, their colors are red and black with white as a trim, so I don’t see where the outrage is in actually wearing one of their colors) doesn’t mean they’re just following in the long line of other teams. Where the fuck else did you expect them to go? Another red jersey? Boring. A silver jersey? Yeah, and people like you would be on here whining your fucking ass off ad naseum because of how hideous they were.

    Fuck off with your stupid ass whining. Sorry they don’t go back to the 20’s with their design like the Original 6 teams do. As far as the design itself, judging from the rest of the Reebok jerseys in the NHL right now, its in the upper tier of great looks.[/quote]

    Wow. I’m opinionated. But you’re a prick.

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”294768″]
    Also, the Carolina broadcast team mentioned that the goalie coach for the ‘Canes thinks the black makes Cam Ward look smaller between the pipes and that should give him an advantage.[/quote]

    Why would looking smaller be an advantage for a goaltender???

    If the Carolina broadcast team knew anything about hockey, they would know that the puck disappears into a black uniform, causing faster whistles. This is the advantage of an all-black uniform. We have a goalie on our beer league team who gets tons of freebie whistles even when the puck isn’t secured because he wears all-black.

    That’s the only advantage to having black. Otherwise, why not throw some pinstripes on his uniform? They’re slimming as well.

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”294769″][quote comment=”294742″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid blahblahblah (three minutes of crying and whining with some unnecessary profanity)[/quote]

    i guess that was directed to both of us, jim…

    that’s all imo say about it…his response doesn’t even deserve a reply[/quote]

    Bandwagon riders always have an opinion that is never wrong. Worry not, Phil and Jim… real hockey fans know that the Carolina Hurricanes are red, white, and silver with black highlights. Not black. And not gray or any shade of gray either.[/quote]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.

  • Ricko | October 14, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”294772″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid they actually wear a jersey that is one of their main colors. God forbid they actually wear that color with the logo that fans have been longing for the Canes to use as the jersey crest for years. God forbid they actually tap into an area in which they will inevitably make a ton of money off of when the franchise is year in and year out right on the break even point.

    Jesus Christ, get off your fucking high horse. The Canes looked good last night. Other than the stupid socks, thats one of the better 3rd jerseys out there. Just because they decide to go with black (mind you, their colors are red and black with white as a trim, so I don’t see where the outrage is in actually wearing one of their colors) doesn’t mean they’re just following in the long line of other teams. Where the fuck else did you expect them to go? Another red jersey? Boring. A silver jersey? Yeah, and people like you would be on here whining your fucking ass off ad naseum because of how hideous they were.

    Fuck off with your stupid ass whining. Sorry they don’t go back to the 20’s with their design like the Original 6 teams do. As far as the design itself, judging from the rest of the Reebok jerseys in the NHL right now, its in the upper tier of great looks.[/quote]

    Wow. I’m opinionated. But you’re a prick.[/quote]

    There plenty of room for both old and new looks. It’s a question of how well either is done, not whether or not it SHOULD be done.

    But, as we know well, KT, the belief that everything old is bad and only anything new is good is typically adolescent. And so was his post.

    —Ricko

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”294773″][quote comment=”294768″]
    Also, the Carolina broadcast team mentioned that the goalie coach for the ‘Canes thinks the black makes Cam Ward look smaller between the pipes and that should give him an advantage.[/quote]

    Why would looking smaller be an advantage for a goaltender???[/quote]
    Makes the shooter think the holes are bigger than they really are. Makes them think they have a shooting angle when they don’t. Makes them think they can squeeze the puck through an opening when they can’t.

    There’s a difference between wearing a black jersey and wearing black pads. Now, the pads, you want them to be white because you keep them close to the ice and you want to confuse the shooter with the leg pads and the ice. But, you’d prefer to look slimmer as a goalie in the jersey because you’re generally quick enough to close up the openings they see, so the shooters aren’t going to try to be as overly accurate, and you’ll be able to smother up a larger proportion of shots.

  • Miketown.com | October 14, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    New Kentucky Basketball unis. Check out the checkered fabric…

    http://www.ukathleti...

  • Miketown.com | October 14, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    Check out the new Kentucky Basketball unis. Pay attention to the checkered backing…

    http://www.ukathleti...

  • Mark K | October 14, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”294752″][quote comment=”294750″][quote comment=”294749″]Once again the refs were wearing their cold weather getups on a warm night, and not just “Cleveland warm” My parents were at the game and said it was about 70 out. I know it was a little windy, but come on…at least the refs tend to all be wearing the same thing, which is more than we can say for most teams[/quote]

    here’s a pic if you didn’t watch

    http://blog.clevelan...

    Edwards is a good ballplayer but more than that, he can wear a unifrom correctly, without all of the stupid sock shenanigans, although last night, as he sometimes does, he wore black gloves, and rarely does he close the velcro on said gloves:

    http://static.nfl.co...

    http://www.rotorob.c...

    The gloves should be brown, orange, or white…no black![/quote]
    Anyone else get annoyed as I do when you see that extra NFL pad on top of the team goal post pad? Ummmm… the post starts curving up there, guys- that looks like crap!

  • fluxcap | October 14, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”294762″]I was so expecting to come here today and see those horrible Browns helmets from last night as the main picture, with Bryan saying something like “Did they put those numbers on with a Sharpie?”[/quote]

    given that the unis were throwbacks from ’57-’59 i loved them. i also think that the football throwback, especially for a game that actually has throwback significance like browns-giants would be cool for both teams to throwback like they do in baseball

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    #66 of the Giants wearing Air Jordan III Player Exclusive Cleats:

    http://cache2.asset-...

    A Visor fine in the near future:
    http://cache1.asset-...

  • Bryan Redemske | October 14, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”294713″]The 49er helmet and hockey commercial have been tickered before.[/quote]

    I’ll be sure to consult you from now on. Thanks.

    Sorry about that UVA-ECU link. It’ll have to go tomorrow. Because I’m at work … you know, working.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    Kentucky has new basketball unis? Who knew?

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”294780″]I was so expecting to come here today and see those horrible Browns helmets from last night as the main picture, with Bryan saying something like “Did they put those numbers on with a Sharpie?”[/quote]

    either jaws or kornholer said the same thing last night…

    i rather liked the throwback helmets…now…not longing for every team to start with the helmet numbers, but was nice to see (again)…also, i didn’t like the white stripe on the helmet…just looked out of place…MHO is that the stripe, if one has one, should be darker than the helmet

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”294781″]#66 of the Giants wearing Air Jordan III Player Exclusive Cleats:

    http://cache2.asset-...

    A Visor fine in the near future:
    http://cache1.asset-...

    Seemingly, the Brown to the left of Pool, in the lower left hand corner, is also wearing them!

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    Kornheiser said it, right after Manning threw his second pick!

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”294774″]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    Merchandise is not an on-ice uniform. You can buy black-clothed merchandise for any NHL team, regardless of colour scheme.

    The Hurricanes have only used black on the ice in their uniforms as a highlight colour, thereby making it a non-factor in their colour scheme.

    They have a red home jersey and a white road jersey. Black is used as a contrasting colour only.

    This is the essence of their uniform, and an ideal that they should have stuck to.

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”294774″][quote comment=”294769″][quote comment=”294742″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid blahblahblah (three minutes of crying and whining with some unnecessary profanity)[/quote]

    i guess that was directed to both of us, jim…

    that’s all imo say about it…his response doesn’t even deserve a reply[/quote]

    Bandwagon riders always have an opinion that is never wrong. Worry not, Phil and Jim… real hockey fans know that the Carolina Hurricanes are red, white, and silver with black highlights. Not black. And not gray or any shade of gray either.[/quote]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    That’s a lot of white highlights then…

    http://www.geocities...

    I’d say its Red/White/Black highlights

  • Ricko | October 14, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”294786″]Kornheiser said it, right after Manning threw his second pick![/quote]

    God forbid anyone on the crew take a look at photos of the Browns from that era so they could offer an informed opinion.

    An uninformed opinion is just so much less work, though, isn’t it.

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”294776″][quote comment=”294773″][quote comment=”294768″]
    Also, the Carolina broadcast team mentioned that the goalie coach for the ‘Canes thinks the black makes Cam Ward look smaller between the pipes and that should give him an advantage.[/quote]

    Why would looking smaller be an advantage for a goaltender???[/quote]
    Makes the shooter think the holes are bigger than they really are. Makes them think they have a shooting angle when they don’t. Makes them think they can squeeze the puck through an opening when they can’t.

    There’s a difference between wearing a black jersey and wearing black pads. Now, the pads, you want them to be white because you keep them close to the ice and you want to confuse the shooter with the leg pads and the ice. But, you’d prefer to look slimmer as a goalie in the jersey because you’re generally quick enough to close up the openings they see, so the shooters aren’t going to try to be as overly accurate, and you’ll be able to smother up a larger proportion of shots.[/quote]

    Again, the advantage isn’t that a goalie wants to look smaller. And I thoroughly disagree with him looking smaller altogether. He’s surrounded by white boards, off-white ice, white mesh in the nets, and red goalposts. It would be much easier for him to look smaller in white rather than standing out in black.

    His save percentage last season away from the RBC Centre was .904 while wearing white, but his save percentage at home while wearing red was .891. He gave up an average of 2.85 goals per start at home compared to 2.70 goals per start on the road.

    The statistics don’t jive with the theory of him looking smaller in black or a darker colour than white.

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”294787″][quote comment=”294774″]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    Merchandise is not an on-ice uniform. You can buy black-clothed merchandise for any NHL team, regardless of colour scheme.

    The Hurricanes have only used black on the ice in their uniforms as a highlight colour, thereby making it a non-factor in their colour scheme.

    They have a red home jersey and a white road jersey. Black is used as a contrasting colour only.

    This is the essence of their uniform, and an ideal that they should have stuck to.[/quote]
    Wow, umm… no, not quite

    Once again, their colors are red and black. If you have ever been to a game in the RBC Center, you would know this. The only reason white is used as a “main” color is because the NHL mandates that one jersey has to be white. They are red and black. I’m not sure how many more times I have to repeat this before you actually understand. They are red and black.

    Seriously, take it from the guy who has been going to Canes games since 1997… They are red and black.

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”294789″][quote comment=”294786″]Kornheiser said it, right after Manning threw his second pick![/quote]

    God forbid anyone on the crew take a look at photos of the Browns from that era so they could offer an informed opinion.

    An uninformed opinion is just so much less work, though, isn’t it.[/quote]

    kornholer has an uninformed opinion? *feigns shock and dismay*

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”294788″][quote comment=”294774″][quote comment=”294769″][quote comment=”294742″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid blahblahblah (three minutes of crying and whining with some unnecessary profanity)[/quote]

    i guess that was directed to both of us, jim…

    that’s all imo say about it…his response doesn’t even deserve a reply[/quote]

    Bandwagon riders always have an opinion that is never wrong. Worry not, Phil and Jim… real hockey fans know that the Carolina Hurricanes are red, white, and silver with black highlights. Not black. And not gray or any shade of gray either.[/quote]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    That’s a lot of white highlights then…

    http://www.geocities...

    I’d say its Red/White/Black highlights[/quote]
    Going by that analogy, the Flyers would be a team who’s colors are black and white…

    No, they have been and always will be orange and black. The Isles aren’t blue and white, they are blue and orange. The Wild aren’t red and white, they are green and red. Its also like saying the redskins are maroon and white when they are maroon and gold, or that Michigan is Blue and white when they are maize and blue.

    Sorry, saying that a team is ____ and white just because of the color of the away jersey is stupid and ignorant.

  • Brian | October 14, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    Saw this on the plane on my trip back from LA…..interesting didn’t know that Yanks had NOB.

    http://www.skymall.c...

  • fluxcap | October 14, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”294789″][quote comment=”294786″]Kornheiser said it, right after Manning threw his second pick![/quote]

    God forbid anyone on the crew take a look at photos of the Browns from that era so they could offer an informed opinion.

    An uninformed opinion is just so much less work, though, isn’t it.[/quote]

    I believe that was my point in including the link to the article about the Browns throwbacks
    [quote comment=”294780″][quote comment=”294762″]I was so expecting to come here today and see those horrible Browns helmets from last night as the main picture, with Bryan saying something like “Did they put those numbers on with a Sharpie?”[/quote]

    given that the unis were throwbacks from ’57-’59 i loved them. i also think that the football throwback, especially for a game that actually has throwback significance like browns-giants would be cool for both teams to throwback like they do in baseball[/quote]

  • Ricko | October 14, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”294793″][quote comment=”294788″][quote comment=”294774″][quote comment=”294769″][quote comment=”294742″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid blahblahblah (three minutes of crying and whining with some unnecessary profanity)[/quote]

    i guess that was directed to both of us, jim…

    that’s all imo say about it…his response doesn’t even deserve a reply[/quote]

    Bandwagon riders always have an opinion that is never wrong. Worry not, Phil and Jim… real hockey fans know that the Carolina Hurricanes are red, white, and silver with black highlights. Not black. And not gray or any shade of gray either.[/quote]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    That’s a lot of white highlights then…

    http://www.geocities...

    I’d say its Red/White/Black highlights[/quote]
    Going by that analogy, the Flyers would be a team who’s colors are black and white…

    No, they have been and always will be orange and black. The Isles aren’t blue and white, they are blue and orange. The Wild aren’t red and white, they are green and red. Its also like saying the redskins are maroon and white when they are maroon and gold, or that Michigan is Blue and white when they are maize and blue.

    Sorry, saying that a team is ____ and white just because of the color of the away jersey is stupid and ignorant.[/quote]

    Anyone know what it says in the ‘Canes media guide about team colors? That and what they have generally actually worn on the ice would appear to be the real starting points of this discussion.

  • Scott | October 14, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    There was an article in the Sports Business Journal about those UK unis. It’s basically the result of a new focus from Nike on “storytelling” with teams’ uniforms to “deepen its University relationships.” States that 240 of the 320 Div. I programs are outfitted by Nike.

    IMO, it appears Nike is launching various new strategies (System of Dress, Storytelling, etc.) to counter the growth of Under Armour and the resurgence of adidas. Frankly, as much as I despise lots of the Nike threads, that UA stuff is atrocious. Why not do what Carolina did and hire alum Alexander Julian to design and just have Nike manufacture … better yet, why not have somebody local manufacture ’em, too ;)

  • Stuby | October 14, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”294794″]Saw this on the plane on my trip back from LA…..interesting didn’t know that Yanks had NOB.

    http://www.skymall.c...[/quote]
    I love SkyMall. It’s THE place to go if you need doggie steps up to your bed and you need them monogrammed.

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”294793″][quote comment=”294788″][quote comment=”294774″][quote comment=”294769″][quote comment=”294742″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid blahblahblah (three minutes of crying and whining with some unnecessary profanity)[/quote]

    i guess that was directed to both of us, jim…

    that’s all imo say about it…his response doesn’t even deserve a reply[/quote]

    Bandwagon riders always have an opinion that is never wrong. Worry not, Phil and Jim… real hockey fans know that the Carolina Hurricanes are red, white, and silver with black highlights. Not black. And not gray or any shade of gray either.[/quote]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    That’s a lot of white highlights then…

    http://www.geocities...

    I’d say its Red/White/Black highlights[/quote]
    Going by that analogy, the Flyers would be a team who’s colors are black and white…

    No, they have been and always will be orange and black. The Isles aren’t blue and white, they are blue and orange. The Wild aren’t red and white, they are green and red. Its also like saying the redskins are maroon and white when they are maroon and gold, or that Michigan is Blue and white when they are maize and blue.

    Sorry, saying that a team is ____ and white just because of the color of the away jersey is stupid and ignorant.[/quote]

    Flyers have always been orange and white with black highlights.

    http://imagecache2.a...

    http://www.thescore....

    http://espn.go.com/m...

    They are currently using their highlight color as their home uni color………….. as is CAR.

    http://dildeepsingh....

    It even started out as a THIRD jersey

    http://www.nhlunifor...

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”294791″]
    Once again, their colors are red and black. If you have ever been to a game in the RBC Center, you would know this. The only reason white is used as a “main” color is because the NHL mandates that one jersey has to be white. They are red and black. I’m not sure how many more times I have to repeat this before you actually understand. They are red and black.

    Seriously, take it from the guy who has been going to Canes games since 1997… They are red and black.[/quote]

    While I’m not debating having black as a main colour, they have only used it as a highlight colour on their uniforms. Only. This is the point of the debate. It has never been used for anything else. Nothing worn on-ice has been primarily black. Not the pants, not the socks, not the gloves, not the helmets, not the jersey.

    This would be like the St. Louis Blues coming out in an all-yellow jersey. It’s a highlight colour only, and that’s all it has ever been used for.

    Is it a vital part of their colour scheme? Absolutely. But to make it a primary jersey colour? That would go against everything that makes them the St. Louis Blues.

    If Carolina was sticking true to their idea of representing a hurricane or tropical storm warning flag – which is where the colour scheme came from – this is not the intended goal, is it? I’d hope not.

    It fails the “Is it good, or is it stupid” test.

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”294799″][quote comment=”294793″][quote comment=”294788″][quote comment=”294774″][quote comment=”294769″][quote comment=”294742″][quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid blahblahblah (three minutes of crying and whining with some unnecessary profanity)[/quote]

    i guess that was directed to both of us, jim…

    that’s all imo say about it…his response doesn’t even deserve a reply[/quote]

    Bandwagon riders always have an opinion that is never wrong. Worry not, Phil and Jim… real hockey fans know that the Carolina Hurricanes are red, white, and silver with black highlights. Not black. And not gray or any shade of gray either.[/quote]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    That’s a lot of white highlights then…

    http://www.geocities...

    I’d say its Red/White/Black highlights[/quote]
    Going by that analogy, the Flyers would be a team who’s colors are black and white…

    No, they have been and always will be orange and black. The Isles aren’t blue and white, they are blue and orange. The Wild aren’t red and white, they are green and red. Its also like saying the redskins are maroon and white when they are maroon and gold, or that Michigan is Blue and white when they are maize and blue.

    Sorry, saying that a team is ____ and white just because of the color of the away jersey is stupid and ignorant.[/quote]

    Flyers have always been orange and white with black highlights.

    http://imagecache2.a...

    http://www.thescore....

    http://espn.go.com/m...

    They are currently using their highlight color as their home uni color………….. as is CAR.

    http://dildeepsingh....

    It even started out as a THIRD jersey

    http://www.nhlunifor...

    And whose actually saying you can’t have THREE colors.

    DET has two:

    http://netcrashers.f...

    TOR has two:

    http://data2.blog.de...

    NYI have THREE:

    http://data2.blog.de...

    CAR has THREE:

    http://images.busine...

    We’re just disagreeing what order you’d put the three. And this I am ok with. It’s ok to disagree.

    (cough)redwhiteblack(cough) :)

  • Namhob | October 14, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    This would be like the St. Louis Blues coming out in an all-yellow jersey.

    What, this thing of beauty?

    http://www.prosports...

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”294802″]This would be like the St. Louis Blues coming out in an all-yellow jersey.

    What, this thing of beauty?

    http://www.prosports...

    Yeah… harsh. I’m glad it only sees the practice ice. LOL

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”294800″][quote comment=”294791″]
    Once again, their colors are red and black. If you have ever been to a game in the RBC Center, you would know this. The only reason white is used as a “main” color is because the NHL mandates that one jersey has to be white. They are red and black. I’m not sure how many more times I have to repeat this before you actually understand. They are red and black.

    Seriously, take it from the guy who has been going to Canes games since 1997… They are red and black.[/quote]

    While I’m not debating having black as a main colour, they have only used it as a highlight colour on their uniforms. Only. This is the point of the debate. It has never been used for anything else. Nothing worn on-ice has been primarily black. Not the pants, not the socks, not the gloves, not the helmets, not the jersey.

    This would be like the St. Louis Blues coming out in an all-yellow jersey. It’s a highlight colour only, and that’s all it has ever been used for.

    Is it a vital part of their colour scheme? Absolutely. But to make it a primary jersey colour? That would go against everything that makes them the St. Louis Blues.

    If Carolina was sticking true to their idea of representing a hurricane or tropical storm warning flag – which is where the colour scheme came from – this is not the intended goal, is it? I’d hope not.

    It fails the “Is it good, or is it stupid” test.[/quote]

    Old BUF would be Black/White/Red

    http://www.nhlunifor...

    Then came out with a third jersey of their HIGHLIGHT color

    http://www.nhlunifor...

    which is what CAR did, so you CAN have black as a primary color, but I just don’t think it’s a CAR primary.

  • david | October 14, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    eli manning and reggie brooks are both on schutts advisory board. the one year eli wore a revolution and then next he had a schutt head gear.

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”294804″]
    Old BUF would be Black/White/Red

    http://www.nhlunifor...

    Then came out with a third jersey of their HIGHLIGHT color

    http://www.nhlunifor...

    which is what CAR did, so you CAN have black as a primary color, but I just don’t think it’s a CAR primary.[/quote]

    And, surpringly, Jim, all three of those jerseys are now just distant memories. ;o)

    Again, the Sabres went back to what works and what the fans love – blue and yellow. They ditched the black (notice the theme!) and red.

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”294803″][quote comment=”294802″]This would be like the St. Louis Blues coming out in an all-yellow jersey.

    What, this thing of beauty?

    http://www.prosports...

    Yeah… harsh. I’m glad it only sees the practice ice. LOL[/quote]

    Wait you’re telling me you don’t like yellow jerseys? :)

    http://www.geocities...

    ugh… that’s hard on the eyes.

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”294807″][quote comment=”294803″][quote comment=”294802″]This would be like the St. Louis Blues coming out in an all-yellow jersey.

    What, this thing of beauty?

    http://www.prosports...

    Yeah… harsh. I’m glad it only sees the practice ice. LOL[/quote]

    Wait you’re telling me you don’t like yellow jerseys? :)

    http://www.geocities...

    ugh… that’s hard on the eyes.[/quote]

    Baby poo greenish-yellow does not equal yellow. LOL

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”294808″][quote comment=”294807″][quote comment=”294803″][quote comment=”294802″]This would be like the St. Louis Blues coming out in an all-yellow jersey.

    What, this thing of beauty?

    http://www.prosports...

    Yeah… harsh. I’m glad it only sees the practice ice. LOL[/quote]

    Wait you’re telling me you don’t like yellow jerseys? :)

    http://www.geocities...

    ugh… that’s hard on the eyes.[/quote]

    Baby poo greenish-yellow does not equal yellow. LOL[/quote]

    I’ve heard it be called mustard too.

  • Jet | October 14, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    Good to see all the hockey talk today. I’m not a fan of the personalized goalie sticks, in fact, I still can’t get used to the visual cacophony on the goalie leg pads and blocker/catcher gloves. Sorry, I’m old-school from the day when these pads were all brown leather. Bad enough the jerseys are eyesores today, but they have to compound it with colored pads and know designs on the sticks. Enuf already!
    -Jet

  • Mike Engle | October 14, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”294732″][quote comment=”294730″][quote comment=”294729″]Islander’s wore white at home yesterday…something that needs to continue around the NHL[/quote]

    I recall reading that there is (or was) a move afoot to switch back to home team wearing white. Don’t see it happening as it would mean fans would be less inclined to buy a team’s 3rd jersey.

    Money, money, money. M-O-N-E-Y . . . .[/quote]

    NHL exec: Sales of white jerseys is down.
    Bettman: Switch to white at home. Require all teams to encourage having white-outs. Problem solved.
    NHL exec: But most teams have colored thirds.
    Bettman: Get teams to come up with a fourth jersey in white.[/quote]
    Didn’t the New York Rangers have four jerseys at once: royal “baldric,” white “baldric,” navy Lady Liberty and white Lady Liberty? Looks like that got shot down once upon a time. Apparently there isn’t as much money grabbing as we think.
    [quote comment=”294747″]For whatever reason, Patrick Lalime identifies with Marvin the Martian… hence the “eyes” on his stick and his mask, no matter which team he’s with at the time…

    Me, I wore a mask with this guy on it, so I can’t beef![/quote]
    I heard that when Lalime was with the Senators, he thought the centurion looked like Marvin the Martian, so he had a centurion with Marvin’s distinctive eyes. He then became…well…Marvin the Martian. Lalime even had Marvin done as an Indian chief when he was a Chicago Blackhawk.
    Speaking of Blackhawks goalies, anybody remember Jeff Hackett? I always thought he had an amazingly cool mask.

  • Jim MI | October 14, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”294810″]Good to see all the hockey talk today. I’m not a fan of the personalized goalie sticks, in fact, I still can’t get used to the visual cacophony on the goalie leg pads and blocker/catcher gloves. Sorry, I’m old-school from the day when these pads were all brown leather. Bad enough the jerseys are eyesores today, but they have to compound it with colored pads and know designs on the sticks. Enuf already!
    -Jet[/quote]

    I wish we got to see these custom pads in play for last year’s Winter Classic…

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

  • Teebz | October 14, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”294811″]
    I heard that when Lalime was with the Senators, he thought the centurion looked like Marvin the Martian, so he had a centurion with Marvin’s distinctive eyes. He then became…well…Marvin the Martian. Lalime even had Marvin done as an Indian chief when he was a Chicago Blackhawk.
    Speaking of Blackhawks goalies, anybody remember Jeff Hackett? I always thought he had an amazingly cool mask.[/quote]

    Lalime actually started in Pittsburgh with the eyes. When he moved to Ottawa, Lalime likened the Centurion to Marvin due to the helmet that Marvin wore (as Mike wrote). He kept the eyes going throughout his stops in the NHL – St. Louis, Chicago with the headdress, and in Buffalo with that looks like the Grand Poobah hat.

  • Jet | October 14, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”294812″]

    I wish we got to see these custom pads in play for last year’s Winter Classic…

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    Thanks Jim, those pads look sweet! That’s how a goalie SHOULD look! And now if we could only do something about that jersey…

    -Jet

  • Johnny F. | October 14, 2008 at 1:31 pm |

    I’m not sure if it’s been posted yet, but there’s a new “low level” pro hockey team in the Hudson Valley, N.Y., where I’m from…

    http://www.hudsonval...

    The logo is pretty much what I anticipated, and the nickname (Bears) was also a bit predictable. It will be interesting to see what the unis look like.

  • Michael Niegl | October 14, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    About that whole rugby jersey thing, this is a very common thing in rugby and football/soccer. For most of the non-league games (ie champions league, euros, world cup, you name it) teams will have custom jerseys for one game only, with opponent, date and sometimes location imprinted. And it’s always the game to be played that day, no hommage to older games, however good (or bad) they may have been.
    for example see:
    pippo inzaghi, ac milan, champions league final 2 years ago http://eur.news1.yim... (hard to see the gold on white, but it’s to the left of the adidas logo)
    or bryan habana, south africa, in last years rugby world cup final http://eur.news1.yim...
    and hundreds more when sifting through galleries of this years euro cup.

    same goes for balls (see http://www.soccerbal... for several, with some particularly nice as they even sport the name of the teams) and even shoes from time to time (i’ve seen it but couldn’t find a good picture at the moment, sorry!)

    Cheers from Austria

  • Michael Niegl | October 14, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”294816″]About that whole rugby jersey thing, this is a very common thing in rugby and football/soccer. For most of the non-league games (ie champions league, euros, world cup, you name it) teams will have custom jerseys for one game only, with opponent, date and sometimes location imprinted. And it’s always the game to be played that day, no hommage to older games, however good (or bad) they may have been.
    for example see:
    pippo inzaghi, ac milan, champions league final 2 years ago http://eur.news1.yim... (hard to see the gold on white, but it’s to the left of the adidas logo)
    or bryan habana, south africa, in last years rugby world cup final http://eur.news1.yim...
    and hundreds more when sifting through galleries of this years euro cup.

    same goes for balls (see http://www.soccerbal... for several, with some particularly nice as they even sport the name of the teams) and even shoes from time to time (i’ve seen it but couldn’t find a good picture at the moment, sorry!)

    Cheers from Austria[/quote]

    whoops, second link is obviously wrong, here’s the correct one this time :)
    http://www.sarugby.n...

  • Fleeser | October 14, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”294761″][quote comment=”294754″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    I don’t have a problem with the black hurricanes jersey. Black is a part of their color scheme, the flag logo, imho, is better than the swirling hurricane mess, and the uni design itself seems better than what they usually wear.[/quote]

    thanks, toaster…that was a well reasoned, thoughtful response…im actually beginning to rethink my position on the canes thirds…as i did say, as far as black alts go, it’s not the worst…and, as you so eloquently pointed out, it is part of their color scheme…

    at least, unlike my favorite baseball team, it’s not just black for black’s sake…[/quote]

    Are the Mets just black for black’s sake? I have read that the Mets were originally blue (to honor the Dodgers) and orange (to honor the Giants). I interpreted the black as further tribute to the Giants.

  • Jim Bullard | October 14, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    Saw the OKC Thunder’s road blues in person last night. I have to admit, while I was one of the most adament critics of the uniform when it first came out, it did look really sharp in person. The blue is unlike any other blue in the leauge and the orange really pops out, at the very least the uniform doesn’t look boring at all.

    I would like to see what the jersey would look like if the word “City” was below the numbers though. Anyone want to photoshop?

    Now, if only they could do something about that awful logo and name.

  • Phil in Joplin (new witty name coming soon!) | October 14, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”294819″]Saw the OKC Thunder’s road blues in person last night. I have to admit, while I was one of the most adament critics of the uniform when it first came out, it did look really sharp in person. The blue is unlike any other blue in the leauge and the orange really pops out, at the very least the uniform doesn’t look boring at all.

    I would like to see what the jersey would look like if the word “City” was below the numbers though. Anyone want to photoshop?

    Now, if only they could do something about that awful logo and name.[/quote]

    I was at the game last night and completely agree. The blue looks good, the trim is nice, and overall, it’s a good look. Dump the logo on the pant leg and you’re good to go.

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote]Are the Mets just black for black’s sake? I have read that the Mets were originally blue (to honor the Dodgers) and orange (to honor the Giants). I interpreted the black as further tribute to the Giants.[/quote]

    im pretty sure the mets just added the black to capitalize on the ‘black jersey’ craze of the 1990’s…if they had truly wanted to add the black as a homage to the new york baseball giants, they prolly wouldn’t have waited 37-ish years to do so

    YMMV

  • Casey H | October 14, 2008 at 2:08 pm |

    Is this even legal, why is Braylon Edwards wearing a Penn State shirt? He mut not be impressed by Rich Rodriguez at all.

    http://i263.photobuc...

  • chance | October 14, 2008 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”294821″][quote]Are the Mets just black for black’s sake? I have read that the Mets were originally blue (to honor the Dodgers) and orange (to honor the Giants). I interpreted the black as further tribute to the Giants.[/quote]

    im pretty sure the mets just added the black to capitalize on the ‘black jersey’ craze of the 1990’s…if they had truly wanted to add the black as a homage to the new york baseball giants, they prolly wouldn’t have waited 37-ish years to do so

    YMMV[/quote]
    Bingo.

  • chance | October 14, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”294822″]Is this even legal, why is Braylon Edwards wearing a Penn State shirt? He mut not be impressed by Rich Rodriguez at all.

    http://i263.photobuc...

    Why wouldn’t it be legal, when Carson Palmer can wear a Lions t-shirt to Bengals’ training camp?

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”294783″]Kentucky has new basketball unis? Who knew?[/quote]

    As I predicted, this is quickly becoming the “green dot, gold C” of 2008!

  • Trav | October 14, 2008 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”294778″]Check out the new Kentucky Basketball unis. Pay attention to the checkered backing…

    http://www.ukathleti...

    I like the checkerboard pattern of the new Wildcat uniforms, give them a unique feel without going Oregon overboard, almost like the old denim look.
    I read that article twice, does anyone know the story behind the black “K”?

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”294815″]I’m not sure if it’s been posted yet, but there’s a new “low level” pro hockey team in the Hudson Valley, N.Y., where I’m from…

    http://www.hudsonval...

    The logo is pretty much what I anticipated, and the nickname (Bears) was also a bit predictable. It will be interesting to see what the unis look like.[/quote]

    Another area guy…sound like we need a Lower Hudson Valley Uni-Gathering!

  • Joe | October 14, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    I don’t know if anyone covered this, but I believe the NHL went back to the home teams wearing the dark jersey as part of an anniversary for the league. If you look into the history of the NHL, the home teams always used to wear the dark jerseys.

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”294826″][quote comment=”294778″]Check out the new Kentucky Basketball unis. Pay attention to the checkered backing…

    http://www.ukathleti...

    I like the checkerboard pattern of the new Wildcat uniforms, give them a unique feel without going Oregon overboard, almost like the old denim look.
    I read that article twice, does anyone know the story behind the black “K”?[/quote]

    Re-Read the “Honoring a Legend” section.

  • Al | October 14, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”294813″][quote comment=”294811″]
    I heard that when Lalime was with the Senators, he thought the centurion looked like Marvin the Martian, so he had a centurion with Marvin’s distinctive eyes. He then became…well…Marvin the Martian. Lalime even had Marvin done as an Indian chief when he was a Chicago Blackhawk.
    Speaking of Blackhawks goalies, anybody remember Jeff Hackett? I always thought he had an amazingly cool mask.[/quote]

    Lalime actually started in Pittsburgh with the eyes. When he moved to Ottawa, Lalime likened the Centurion to Marvin due to the helmet that Marvin wore (as Mike wrote). He kept the eyes going throughout his stops in the NHL – St. Louis, Chicago with the headdress, and in Buffalo with that looks like the Grand Poobah hat.[/quote]

    Huet now has a similar mask as Hackett did back then. Pic number 4.
    http://blackhawks.nh...

  • Al | October 14, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    A better look at Huet
    http://blackhawks.nh...

  • Justin in AR | October 14, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    Just touching on the Kentucky uniforms before they get beaten into the ground, but I wonder why Kentucky, or any other team in the SEC would want to have checkerboard on their gear. Seeing as how that’s Tennessee’s deal and Kentucky and Tennessee play in the same division of the SEC, I figured that would be almost blasphemy. JMHO.

  • Kyle47 | October 14, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”294820″][quote comment=”294819″]Saw the OKC Thunder’s road blues in person last night. I have to admit, while I was one of the most adament critics of the uniform when it first came out, it did look really sharp in person. The blue is unlike any other blue in the leauge and the orange really pops out, at the very least the uniform doesn’t look boring at all.

    I would like to see what the jersey would look like if the word “City” was below the numbers though. Anyone want to photoshop?

    Now, if only they could do something about that awful logo and name.[/quote]

    I was at the game last night and completely agree. The blue looks good, the trim is nice, and overall, it’s a good look. Dump the logo on the pant leg and you’re good to go.[/quote]

    How did the court look at the BOK Center? I couldn’t make it to the game…

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”294791″][quote comment=”294787″][quote comment=”294774″]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    Merchandise is not an on-ice uniform. You can buy black-clothed merchandise for any NHL team, regardless of colour scheme.

    The Hurricanes have only used black on the ice in their uniforms as a highlight colour, thereby making it a non-factor in their colour scheme.

    They have a red home jersey and a white road jersey. Black is used as a contrasting colour only.

    This is the essence of their uniform, and an ideal that they should have stuck to.[/quote]
    Wow, umm… no, not quite

    Once again, their colors are red and black. If you have ever been to a game in the RBC Center, you would know this. The only reason white is used as a “main” color is because the NHL mandates that one jersey has to be white. They are red and black. I’m not sure how many more times I have to repeat this before you actually understand. They are red and black.

    Seriously, take it from the guy who has been going to Canes games since 1997… They are red and black.[/quote]

    SSUR.org says:

    Carolina Hurricanes (1997-1998 through present)
    Franchise Colors
    1997-1998 through present: Red, Black, Silver, White
    Commemorative Logo Colors 2007-2008: Red, Dark Red, Black, Dark Gray, Medium Gray, Light Gray, White (10th Anniversary Logo)

  • Jet | October 14, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”294828″]I don’t know if anyone covered this, but I believe the NHL went back to the home teams wearing the dark jersey as part of an anniversary for the league. If you look into the history of the NHL, the home teams always used to wear the dark jerseys.[/quote]

    Not always. The home whites were mandated in 70-71. Before that the home team wore dark, although I don’t know if that dates all the way back to the beginning of the NHL, but they did change over in 70-71, that much I know.

    -Jet

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”294793″] Its also like saying the redskins are maroon and white when they are maroon and gold[/quote]

    Actually, they’re burgundy, gold and white, there, Zornado.

  • Jet | October 14, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    OOPS, SORRY….Joe, #117, I read your post wrong, thought it said the home always wore white. Time for another coffee to recharge the synapses…

    -Jet

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”294818″]Are the Mets just black for black’s sake? I have read that the Mets were originally blue (to honor the Dodgers) and orange (to honor the Giants). I interpreted the black as further tribute to the Giants.[/quote]

    No, they’re black because young people like to wear black clothing. If they wanted to “further” pay homage to the Giants, they could have done it a lot earlier than 1998, when they added black to their color scheme. They were appealing to the same demographic that (they thought would) prefer “Our Team, Our Time” to “Meet the Mets.”

  • MG12 | October 14, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    IS THIS A NEW RIDDELL FOOTBALL HELMET?

    Sorry for the all caps, but I was hoping to grab a little attention.

    I was watching the Monday night game between the Giants and Browns and I could not keep my eyes off Danny Clark and Justin Tuck’s helmets. Being a bit of a football helmet detail freak, I knew something was going on. I would only catch quick glimpses of their helmets as they would make a pass rush, but there was something about them that looked different from any other helmet I had seen yet this year. I was able to see from the nose bumper that they were both wear Riddell helmets, but they were not the standard Riddell Pro helmets or the Riddell Revolution helmets that were introduced in 2002.

    Here is the best image (borrowed from Getty Images) that I could find of Danny Clark or Justin Tuck that show some of the detailing of their helmet.

    http://img366.images...

    As you can see in the image, the strong contour lines that are also featured on the Riddell Revolution helmet are there, but on this new helmet the contour lines start wide on the front of the helmet and taper and get narrower as they run toward the back of the helmet. The Revolution helmet does the exact opposite. The Revolution helmet’s contour line details get narrower as they run to the front of the helmet. There were also some additional details on this new helmet that I noticed, but couldn’t find evidence in any photos from last night. I do recall that the ear-hole was unique and featured an automotive air-intake quality. There was also some additional detailing on the rear of the helmet.

    Prior to last night’s game against the Browns both Clark and Tuck wore the Revolution helmet.

    Did anyone else notice these helmets, either in this game or any other game this weekend? Can anyone grab a better image with a DVR?

  • JTH | October 14, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”294743″]
    The Troy Athens Redhawks logo is exactly the same as the University of Miami’s (OH) used to be, they switched to a big red M this year[/quote]
    That’s Miami University, yo.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”294826″]I read that article twice, does anyone know the story behind the black “K”?[/quote]

    You’re not helping.

  • timmy b | October 14, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”294835″][quote comment=”294828″]I don’t know if anyone covered this, but I believe the NHL went back to the home teams wearing the dark jersey as part of an anniversary for the league. If you look into the history of the NHL, the home teams always used to wear the dark jerseys.[/quote]

    Not always. The home whites were mandated in 70-71. Before that the home team wore dark, although I don’t know if that dates all the way back to the beginning of the NHL, but they did change over in 70-71, that much I know.

    -Jet[/quote]

    Timetable:
    1917-1951: No mandate on jersey colors for home or away.
    1951-c. December 1955: White home, dark away.
    c. Dec.1955-1970: Dark home, white (light) away. (Exception: Bruins from c.1962-1967 wore white at home on occasion)
    1970-2003: White (light) home, dark away. (Exception 1991-1992 after all-star break, dark home, white/light away, alternate sweaters and various reverse sweater nights)
    2003-present: Dark home, white away (Exception: occasional reverse sweater nights)

  • Jason | October 14, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”294791″][quote comment=”294787″][quote comment=”294774″]
    No, the Canes have always been red and black with white and silver highlights since moving to the area. A VAST majority of their merchandise is either red or black. Shoot, I have items I bought back in the 90’s of the Canes that were mainly black with red highlights. Their main colors are red and black. If you’ve been to a game in the RBC Center anytime since they moved to Raleigh, you would know that.[/quote]

    Merchandise is not an on-ice uniform. You can buy black-clothed merchandise for any NHL team, regardless of colour scheme.

    The Hurricanes have only used black on the ice in their uniforms as a highlight colour, thereby making it a non-factor in their colour scheme.

    They have a red home jersey and a white road jersey. Black is used as a contrasting colour only.

    This is the essence of their uniform, and an ideal that they should have stuck to.[/quote]
    Wow, umm… no, not quite

    Once again, their colors are red and black. If you have ever been to a game in the RBC Center, you would know this. The only reason white is used as a “main” color is because the NHL mandates that one jersey has to be white. They are red and black. I’m not sure how many more times I have to repeat this before you actually understand. They are red and black.

    Seriously, take it from the guy who has been going to Canes games since 1997… They are red and black.[/quote]

    I’m not going to listen to anyone who has taken any level of joy from my beloved Whalers being ripped out of Hartford.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”294832″]Just touching on the Kentucky uniforms before they get beaten into the ground, but I wonder why Kentucky, or any other team in the SEC would want to have checkerboard on their gear. Seeing as how that’s Tennessee’s deal and Kentucky and Tennessee play in the same division of the SEC, I figured that would be almost blasphemy. JMHO.[/quote]

    Yeah, and how come Florida wears blue? You’d think Kentucky would have the trademark on that!

    Or maybe they’re honoring someone who’s Croatian.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”294843″]I’m not going to listen to anyone who has taken any level of joy from my beloved Whalers being ripped out of Hartford.[/quote]

    In a related story (for once), I went out with a buddy of mine not long ago that I hadn’t seen in a while and he had a green Whalers hoodie on that I thought was sharp. One of the best logos ever.

  • Mark in Cincy | October 14, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”294840″][quote comment=”294743″]
    The Troy Athens Redhawks logo is exactly the same as the University of Miami’s (OH) used to be, they switched to a big red M this year[/quote]
    That’s Miami University, yo.[/quote]
    yeah, sorry about that JTH … UC grad here, apologies

  • Mr. Met | October 14, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    I’m going with Beardface on this. Sometimes there’s a difference between what a team’s official colors are and what it uses on the field. Case in point: The New York Mets. Their team colors are blue and orange (putting aside the recent “black was added as a third color” spin by the team). The orange, though, has only ever been used as a trim color, notwithstanding those horrid orange spring training and BP jerseys they went with about 4 years ago. For the most part, though, the team uses black almost as a primary color, what with the black jerseys and black hats. But if you went to Shea Stadium, all you saw was blue and orange everywhere (talking about the stadium itself, not its fans’ attire).

    To the TV observer, the team’s colors might be considered black and blue, since that’s what you see on TV all the time. But the stadium was covered in blue and orange and the team’s media guide says the primary colors are blue and orange. And the Mets aren’t the only team: The Florida Marlins team colors are aqua and black, but they have almost phased out aqua entirely from their uniform, save for using it as an accent color, and sparingly at that. The Seattle Mariners colors are navy and teal, but they, like the Marlins, have almost phased out the teal entirely from their uniform.

    So for every team that uses it primary colors on the field of play (i.e the Raiders with the silver and black, the Rams with the navy and gold, the Packers with the green and yellow), you have teams like the Redskins, which uses one of its primary colors as an accent on all its uniforms. Does that mean that the gold is not a primary color? No, it just means that they choose to use it as an accent.

    Although, it looks like there has been a shift, especially in the NFL, towards teams that have used a primary color as an accent to have an alternate jersey with the that color (Dolphins and orange, Bears and orange, Panthers and carolina blue, Giants and red). Who knows whether other leagues are going to follow suit?

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 3:16 pm |

    Marlins’ colors have always been, officially, “Black, Marlin Blue, Silver, White.”

    Dressed to the Nines doesn’t show it, but they’ve worn black jerseys before. I don’t know if they’ve ever used the blue as anything more than an accent.

    http://exhibits.base...

  • JTH | October 14, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”294846″]
    yeah, sorry about that JTH … UC grad here, apologies[/quote]
    No need to apologize. I went to IU. I was just nitpicking, because that’s, like, what I do.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    However, while the Marlins don’t have orange in their color scheme, they have found ways to put it to good use.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 3:22 pm |

    You and your “no, we won’t let you even link to a photo on our site” nonsense. I’ll host it myself

  • Mr. Met | October 14, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”294848″]Marlins’ colors have always been, officially, “Black, Marlin Blue, Silver, White.”

    Dressed to the Nines doesn’t show it, but they’ve worn black jerseys before. I don’t know if they’ve ever used the blue as anything more than an accent.

    http://exhibits.base...

    In ’93 and ’94 I would say “Marlin Blue” was the primary color in their uniform. Hell, up until 2002 their uniforms had blue pinstripes and wordmarks. 2003 was when they went almost entirely to a black and silver look.

    Referencing that picture you posted, they’ve worn the black jerseys so much the last few years that the black jerseys should be listed as the official team uniform with the pinstripes and road greys as alternates.

  • Stuby | October 14, 2008 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”294815″]I’m not sure if it’s been posted yet, but there’s a new “low level” pro hockey team in the Hudson Valley, N.Y., where I’m from…

    http://www.hudsonval...

    The logo is pretty much what I anticipated, and the nickname (Bears) was also a bit predictable. It will be interesting to see what the unis look like.[/quote]
    Hudson Hawks, Hudson Hornets – Hell even the Hudson Brothers would have been better.

  • JTH | October 14, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    Did anyone else notice that at least one player on the Browns was wearing the wrong jersey last night? I wasn’t paying close attention because I was putting together a fire truck for my kids, so I don’t know who it was. All I know is that I looked up at one point and they had a closeup of a player who had the BROWNS wordmark on his jersey.

    The throwbacks don’t have this wordmark, correct?

  • Trav | October 14, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”294829″][quote comment=”294826″][quote comment=”294778″]Check out the new Kentucky Basketball unis. Pay attention to the checkered backing…

    http://www.ukathleti...

    I like the checkerboard pattern of the new Wildcat uniforms, give them a unique feel without going Oregon overboard, almost like the old denim look.
    I read that article twice, does anyone know the story behind the black “K”?[/quote]

    Re-Read the “Honoring a Legend” section.[/quote]

    That section reads “He died earlier this year at the age of 81, and, in his honor, UK’s new uniforms feature a black patch across the shoulder with “Mr. Wildcat” in script.” I’m not seeing anything about the black “K” there…

  • Tony | October 14, 2008 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid they actually wear a jersey that is one of their main colors. God forbid they actually wear that color with the logo that fans have been longing for the Canes to use as the jersey crest for years. God forbid they actually tap into an area in which they will inevitably make a ton of money off of when the franchise is year in and year out right on the break even point.

    Jesus Christ, get off your fucking high horse. The Canes looked good last night. Other than the stupid socks, thats one of the better 3rd jerseys out there. Just because they decide to go with black (mind you, their colors are red and black with white as a trim, so I don’t see where the outrage is in actually wearing one of their colors) doesn’t mean they’re just following in the long line of other teams. Where the fuck else did you expect them to go? Another red jersey? Boring. A silver jersey? Yeah, and people like you would be on here whining your fucking ass off ad naseum because of how hideous they were.

    Fuck off with your stupid ass whining. Sorry they don’t go back to the 20’s with their design like the Original 6 teams do. As far as the design itself, judging from the rest of the Reebok jerseys in the NHL right now, its in the upper tier of great looks.[/quote]

    Lighten up, Francis.

  • JTH | October 14, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”294852″][quote comment=”294848″]Marlins’ colors have always been, officially, “Black, Marlin Blue, Silver, White.”

    Dressed to the Nines doesn’t show it, but they’ve worn black jerseys before. I don’t know if they’ve ever used the blue as anything more than an accent.

    http://exhibits.base...

    In ’93 and ’94 I would say “Marlin Blue” was the primary color in their uniform. Hell, up until 2002 their uniforms had blue pinstripes and wordmarks. 2003 was when they went almost entirely to a black and silver look.

    Referencing that picture you posted, they’ve worn the black jerseys so much the last few years that the black jerseys should be listed as the official team uniform with the pinstripes and road greys as alternates.[/quote]
    Home caps were all teal (looked great), road caps were teal with black brims (looked awful). Didn’t they originally even have a teal jersey that they wore with the black caps?

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”294857″]Didn’t they originally even have a teal jersey that they wore with the black caps?[/quote]

    If you wear a teal jersey and nobody attends the game in which you wear it, does it make a sound?

  • Dustin | October 14, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    So if the Dallas Cowboys do indeed trade for Roy Williams, what would the NOB be for the two Roy Williams’ jerseys?? Would they both get their full names with a middle initial?

  • Justin in AR | October 14, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”294844″][quote comment=”294832″]Just touching on the Kentucky uniforms before they get beaten into the ground, but I wonder why Kentucky, or any other team in the SEC would want to have checkerboard on their gear. Seeing as how that’s Tennessee’s deal and Kentucky and Tennessee play in the same division of the SEC, I figured that would be almost blasphemy. JMHO.[/quote]

    Yeah, and how come Florida wears blue? You’d think Kentucky would have the trademark on that!

    Or maybe they’re honoring someone who’s Croatian.[/quote]

    Yes, but a lot of schools use blue. Tennessee is the only school that I know of that uses the chekerboard pattern. I just thought it was a little strange. Geez.

  • JTH | October 14, 2008 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”294858″][quote comment=”294857″]Didn’t they originally even have a teal jersey that they wore with the black caps?[/quote]

    If you wear a teal jersey and nobody attends the game in which you wear it, does it make a sound?[/quote]
    Yeah. And it’s pretty damned loud:
    http://66.132.211.22...
    http://66.132.211.22...
    http://66.132.211.22...

  • Stuby | October 14, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”294859″]So if the Dallas Cowboys do indeed trade for Roy Williams, what would the NOB be for the two Roy Williams’ jerseys?? Would they both get their full names with a middle initial?[/quote]
    And what if they both went to play basketball at UNC…oh, nevermind.

    I would guess they would both just be ‘Williams’. That’s why they have uniform numbers, right?

  • Greg | October 14, 2008 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”294859″]So if the Dallas Cowboys do indeed trade for Roy Williams, what would the NOB be for the two Roy Williams’ jerseys?? Would they both get their full names with a middle initial?[/quote]

    My vote would be to put Williams on the back of the WR and “Overrated” on the safety.

  • KT | October 14, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”294860″]Yes, but a lot of schools use blue. Tennessee is the only school that I know of that uses the chekerboard pattern. I just thought it was a little strange. Geez.[/quote]

    I just found it as unlikely as the notion that a team in professional hockey, which will never be confused with college basketball, couldn’t possibly wear the same color as a rival school to the university that plays its home basketball games in the same arena, even though the pro hockey team put $20 million toward the construction of said arena. Sorry.

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”294858″][quote comment=”294857″]Didn’t they originally even have a teal jersey that they wore with the black caps?[/quote]

    If you wear a teal jersey and nobody attends the game in which you wear it, does it make a sound?[/quote]

    while no fan of the softball jersey in baseball, i actually kind of liked the teal one…certainly better than the black

    the teal, rather unique at least, made more sense than the “hey…we play in a location where it’s 95 degrees and 100% humiditity 80% of the season…lets wear black anyway” jerseys did

  • JTH | October 14, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”294865″][quote comment=”294858″][quote comment=”294857″]Didn’t they originally even have a teal jersey that they wore with the black caps?[/quote]

    If you wear a teal jersey and nobody attends the game in which you wear it, does it make a sound?[/quote]

    while no fan of the softball jersey in baseball, i actually kind of liked the teal one…certainly better than the black

    the teal, rather unique at least, made more sense than the “hey…we play in a location where it’s 95 degrees and 100% humiditity 80% of the season…lets wear black anyway” jerseys did[/quote]
    The teal had personality. Personality goes a long way.

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”294843″]I’m not going to listen to anyone who has taken any level of joy from my beloved Whalers being ripped out of Hartford.[/quote]
    1. Its been 10 years, let it go
    2. You couldn’t fill a 14,000 seat arena until you were threatened with the team leaving.

    Hartford has nobody to blame but themselves for the failure of the Whalers. Of course, you only miss them when they’re gone. But hey, thanks for sucking as a fanbase and allowing us to steal your team, I’ve really appreciated the 2 Finals runs and the ’06 Stanley Cup Championship. Good times, good times indeed.

    (if you can’t tell, we Canes fans get these whiny bitches coming to us with this argument on a weekly basis)

  • =bg= | October 14, 2008 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”294733″][quote comment=”294725″]another reason to ditch the black

    what was wrong with the red sweater? (besides everything)…

    i ‘spose as black unis go…there are worse…but that’s like saying a broke arm is worse than a torn ACL[/quote]
    Yes… god forbid they actually wear a jersey that is one of their main colors. God forbid they actually wear that color with the logo that fans have been longing for the Canes to use as the jersey crest for years. God forbid they actually tap into an area in which they will inevitably make a ton of money off of when the franchise is year in and year out right on the break even point.

    Jesus Christ, get off your fucking high horse. The Canes looked good last night. Other than the stupid socks, thats one of the better 3rd jerseys out there. Just because they decide to go with black (mind you, their colors are red and black with white as a trim, so I don’t see where the outrage is in actually wearing one of their colors) doesn’t mean they’re just following in the long line of other teams. Where the fuck else did you expect them to go? Another red jersey? Boring. A silver jersey? Yeah, and people like you would be on here whining your fucking ass off ad naseum because of how hideous they were.

    Fuck off with your stupid ass whining. Sorry they don’t go back to the 20’s with their design like the Original 6 teams do. As far as the design itself, judging from the rest of the Reebok jerseys in the NHL right now, its in the upper tier of great looks.[/quote]

    Gosh, nice language there. Sure do like to see that when I come to UW. Sheesh.

  • Lwiedy | October 14, 2008 at 5:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”294867″][quote comment=”294843″]I’m not going to listen to anyone who has taken any level of joy from my beloved Whalers being ripped out of Hartford.[/quote]
    1. Its been 10 years, let it go
    2. You couldn’t fill a 14,000 seat arena until you were threatened with the team leaving.

    Hartford has nobody to blame but themselves for the failure of the Whalers. Of course, you only miss them when they’re gone. But hey, thanks for sucking as a fanbase and allowing us to steal your team, I’ve really appreciated the 2 Finals runs and the ’06 Stanley Cup Championship. Good times, good times indeed.

    (if you can’t tell, we Canes fans get these whiny bitches coming to us with this argument on a weekly basis)[/quote]

    So why Carolina is now on thier second NBA franchise? And spare me the “That’s because…” response too, because that would make you a “whiny bitch”.

    These things happen, as Charlotte well knows.

    The move from Hartford was probably for the best, but there are many loyal fans who did everything THEY could to prevent it are still pissed and I don’t think the moratorium on comments about it has begun.

  • Paul | October 14, 2008 at 6:01 pm |

    what on earth are the Cowboys going to do with two Roy Williams on their team?

    NOB disaster looming?

  • Beardface | October 14, 2008 at 6:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”294869″][quote comment=”294867″][quote comment=”294843″]I’m not going to listen to anyone who has taken any level of joy from my beloved Whalers being ripped out of Hartford.[/quote]
    1. Its been 10 years, let it go
    2. You couldn’t fill a 14,000 seat arena until you were threatened with the team leaving.

    Hartford has nobody to blame but themselves for the failure of the Whalers. Of course, you only miss them when they’re gone. But hey, thanks for sucking as a fanbase and allowing us to steal your team, I’ve really appreciated the 2 Finals runs and the ’06 Stanley Cup Championship. Good times, good times indeed.

    (if you can’t tell, we Canes fans get these whiny bitches coming to us with this argument on a weekly basis)[/quote]

    So why Carolina is now on thier second NBA franchise? And spare me the “That’s because…” response too, because that would make you a “whiny bitch”.

    These things happen, as Charlotte well knows.

    The move from Hartford was probably for the best, but there are many loyal fans who did everything THEY could to prevent it are still pissed and I don’t think the moratorium on comments about it has begun.[/quote]
    You’ve got me… Nobody in NC cares about the Bobcats. The residents of Charlotte overwhelmingly voted against (85% against the funding of it) building the arena that brought them into town, yet the city built it anyway. The franchise was a failure the first time, and its inevitably going to be a failure this time. The only way the NBA works in the long haul in NC is if they stick it in the Triangle, and even then, it would only work if the big star on the team is a UNC/Duke/NC State alum.

  • Will Morris | October 14, 2008 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”294870″]what on earth are the Cowboys going to do with two Roy Williams on their team?

    NOB disaster looming?[/quote]

    I propose that the WR wear “R.E.WILLIAMS” on the back of his jersey and the safety, “R.L.WILLIAMS”.

  • Frankie | October 14, 2008 at 6:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”294853″][quote comment=”294815″]I’m not sure if it’s been posted yet, but there’s a new “low level” pro hockey team in the Hudson Valley, N.Y., where I’m from…

    http://www.hudsonval...

    The logo is pretty much what I anticipated, and the nickname (Bears) was also a bit predictable. It will be interesting to see what the unis look like.[/quote]
    Hudson Hawks, Hudson Hornets – Hell even the Hudson Brothers would have been better.[/quote]

    That logo makes it look like the Fresno Grizzlies play hockey now…

    http://www.maderaonl...

  • Mr. Met | October 14, 2008 at 7:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”294863″][quote comment=”294859″]So if the Dallas Cowboys do indeed trade for Roy Williams, what would the NOB be for the two Roy Williams’ jerseys?? Would they both get their full names with a middle initial?[/quote]

    My vote would be to put Williams on the back of the WR and “Overrated” on the safety.[/quote]

    I can’t for the life of me remember who it was, but someone was asked one time about Roy Williams and he answered something along the lines of I don’t know why he gets this rep as a hard hitter; he only hits hard when you’re not looking and in the open field he needs to use the horse collar because he can’t tackle to save his life. I thought it was pretty funny.

  • Justin H. | October 14, 2008 at 7:48 pm |

    I for one, *LOVE* black, both as regular jerseys and alts. I’ll (for once) spare a rant about it, but I say the more jerseys and color schemes the merrier.

    JMHO
    no throwing wool jerseys or stirrups at me

  • Justin | October 14, 2008 at 7:56 pm |

    On the subject of the dual Roy Williams’ on the Cowboys. When the Patriots picked up Kyle Brady last season in free agency, there was a bit of a tiff because chicks were worried that they’d have to buy a new Tom Brady jersey that had “T. Brady” as a NOB as opposed to just plain “Brady”. So I’m sure both jerseys will just say Williams on the back. They play on different sides of the ball so it shouldn’t be that hard to tell them apart.

    One’s a cheapskate and the other is a dirty talker so it might not be that big of a deal.

  • GoGoSox | October 14, 2008 at 8:10 pm |

    I was watching an Indiana-Illinois football game on the Big Ten network from 1988 or 1989. The Hoosiers were wearing merit/pride whatever you want to call them stickers on their helmets. I wasn’t aware they did that or what they were. Does anybody know about these, have pics, or just want to help me shed some light on what they were?

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 8:31 pm |

    for the ‘original’ roy williams, i propose “TOAST” for his NOB…for the ‘new’ roy, i propose “DIVA” or “T.O.LITE”

    again, YMMV

  • Greenie | October 14, 2008 at 8:34 pm |

    The trade of Roy Williams from the Lions to the Cowboys is a go, and I get the feeling that they’ll both wear ‘R. Williams’ on the back.

    But I ask Paul, has this ever happened before? Do you, or anyone else for that matter, know of two men with same name, same team, same time?

  • JeffM | October 14, 2008 at 8:37 pm |

    Maybe Roy Williams (WR) can wear Pacman’s vacant jersey…doesn’t seem like he will be needing it for a while.

  • tom farley | October 14, 2008 at 8:45 pm |

    For you, JTH:

    The teal had personality. Personality goes a long way.
    Sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I’ll never know, ’cause I’ll never eat the filthy …

    Doing a couple hundred words of vulgar ranting on someone not sharing your opinion on sports uniforms? Astoundingly ridiculous and childish.

    LI Phil? Gotcher back, bruh. Not that you need my help.

  • Alex | October 14, 2008 at 9:24 pm |

    http://www.cowboyson...

    The cowboys pro-shop is selling Roy Williams #11 Jerseys that say just “Williams”

    I am guessing that since they play on opposite sides of the ball there was no need for FNOB or any other kind of distinction, plus they are noticeably different in stature.

    Go Cowboys!

  • =bg= | October 14, 2008 at 9:52 pm |

    Really liked those Brownies last nite. That’s about all I have to say for the nite, so g’nite.

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 9:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”294839″]IS THIS A NEW RIDDELL FOOTBALL HELMET?

    Sorry for the all caps, but I was hoping to grab a little attention.

    I was watching the Monday night game between the Giants and Browns and I could not keep my eyes off Danny Clark and Justin Tuck’s helmets. Being a bit of a football helmet detail freak, I knew something was going on. I would only catch quick glimpses of their helmets as they would make a pass rush, but there was something about them that looked different from any other helmet I had seen yet this year. I was able to see from the nose bumper that they were both wear Riddell helmets, but they were not the standard Riddell Pro helmets or the Riddell Revolution helmets that were introduced in 2002.

    Here is the best image (borrowed from Getty Images) that I could find of Danny Clark or Justin Tuck that show some of the detailing of their helmet.

    http://img366.images...

    As you can see in the image, the strong contour lines that are also featured on the Riddell Revolution helmet are there, but on this new helmet the contour lines start wide on the front of the helmet and taper and get narrower as they run toward the back of the helmet. The Revolution helmet does the exact opposite. The Revolution helmet’s contour line details get narrower as they run to the front of the helmet. There were also some additional details on this new helmet that I noticed, but couldn’t find evidence in any photos from last night. I do recall that the ear-hole was unique and featured an automotive air-intake quality. There was also some additional detailing on the rear of the helmet.

    Prior to last night’s game against the Browns both Clark and Tuck wore the Revolution helmet.

    Did anyone else notice these helmets, either in this game or any other game this weekend? Can anyone grab a better image with a DVR?[/quote]

    MG12, the best pic that I have seen have been from Chris COoley’s website. The rear side also has a strange “Pro-Cap” like extension and the huge “intake manifold” air vent.

    http://2.bp.blogspot...

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  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 10:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”294881″]LI Phil? Gotcher back, bruh. Not that you need my help.[/quote]

    thanks brah!

    can always use it…but, really…i think said poster just needed to vent, and not responding what just what he didn’t want…homey don’t play that

    anyhoo…someone at the gym just said ‘the rays are pretty good’…what’s up with that?

  • LI Phil | October 14, 2008 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”294883″]Really liked those Brownies last nite. That’s about all I have to say for the nite, so g’nite.[/quote]

    their play or their unis?

    /cuz yer right

  • Jeff P | October 14, 2008 at 11:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”294864″][quote comment=”294860″]Yes, but a lot of schools use blue. Tennessee is the only school that I know of that uses the chekerboard pattern. I just thought it was a little strange. Geez.[/quote]

    I just found it as unlikely as the notion that a team in professional hockey, which will never be confused with college basketball, couldn’t possibly wear the same color as a rival school to the university that plays its home basketball games in the same arena, even though the pro hockey team put $20 million toward the construction of said arena. Sorry.[/quote]

    A lot of it has to do with the decoration of the arena. The seats are red, the decor is all red and black, and since the agreement gave NC State a lot of say in arena design to as they also ponied up a lot of money. It would look really awkward if NC state or the Hurricanes played in an arena that came nowhere close to having the same colors as the team.

  • Johnny O | October 14, 2008 at 11:30 pm |

    Not totally uni related, but the new iPhone ad features the mlb.com application and highlights Ryan Braun’s walk off grand slam in the last week of the 2008 regular season.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • MPowers1634 | October 14, 2008 at 11:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”294888″]Not totally uni related, but the new iPhone ad features the mlb.com application and highlights Ryan Braun’s walk off grand slam in the last week of the 2008 regular season.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    I’m sure that UW’s ladies will enjoy that clip, and maybe Johnny O, hopefully not for the same reasons!

    NTTAWWT

  • Beardface | October 15, 2008 at 12:11 am |

    [quote comment=”294887″][quote comment=”294864″][quote comment=”294860″]Yes, but a lot of schools use blue. Tennessee is the only school that I know of that uses the chekerboard pattern. I just thought it was a little strange. Geez.[/quote]

    I just found it as unlikely as the notion that a team in professional hockey, which will never be confused with college basketball, couldn’t possibly wear the same color as a rival school to the university that plays its home basketball games in the same arena, even though the pro hockey team put $20 million toward the construction of said arena. Sorry.[/quote]

    A lot of it has to do with the decoration of the arena. The seats are red, the decor is all red and black, and since the agreement gave NC State a lot of say in arena design to as they also ponied up a lot of money. It would look really awkward if NC state or the Hurricanes played in an arena that came nowhere close to having the same colors as the team.[/quote]
    Exactly… the color scheme of the arena is red and black… it would look like a rainbow if you had the hockey team with differing colors…

    Its the same reason the Wizards and Capitals had the same colors for so long. The same reason the Lakers and Kings had the same colors for a while. The same reason the Grizzlies and the Memphis Tigers have the same colors, and so on.

    You can’t have a team in blue playing in front of an arena with red seats. Doesn’t work that way, especially when you’re trying to hide the amount of empty seats are there in the stadium on tv. Its that very reason the Falcons painted the GA Dome seats red-black-red this year and the Phillies painted the Vet seats blue back in the day.

  • LI Phil | October 15, 2008 at 12:39 am |

    oh…hello there

    how roy williams does it

  • ric | October 15, 2008 at 12:40 am |

    [quote comment=”294879″]The trade of Roy Williams from the Lions to the Cowboys is a go, and I get the feeling that they’ll both wear ‘R. Williams’ on the back.

    But I ask Paul, has this ever happened before? Do you, or anyone else for that matter, know of two men with same name, same team, same time?[/quote]

    There are two players named Chris Rucker. They have their first and middle initials along with their NOB.
    http://sports.espn.g...
    http://sports.espn.g...
    If anyone finds actual pics, that’d be smooth.

  • ric | October 15, 2008 at 12:42 am |

    Dang, forgot to mention… but naturally, when you see the links, you see they’re both on the Michigan State roster.

  • Htown Tim | October 15, 2008 at 1:09 am |

    hockey fucking sucks

  • Jeff P | October 15, 2008 at 1:13 am |

    [quote comment=”294894″]hockey fucking sucks[/quote]
    Aww, how cute. Somebody thinks they’re a toughass.

  • Jordan Pope | October 15, 2008 at 1:22 am |

    [quote comment=”294891″]oh…hello there

    how roy williams does it[/quote]

    that just made my day

  • scott | October 15, 2008 at 6:47 am |

    [quote comment=”294861″][quote comment=”294858″][quote comment=”294857″]Didn’t they originally even have a teal jersey that they wore with the black caps?[/quote]

    If you wear a teal jersey and nobody attends the game in which you wear it, does it make a sound?[/quote]
    Yeah. And it’s pretty damned loud:
    http://66.132.211.22...
    http://66.132.211.22...
    http://66.132.211.22...

    Did the Marlins actually wear those in regular season games? Until they got the black alternate tops, I thought the Marlins wore strictly white and gray jerseys.

  • Scott | October 15, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    To answer Justin in AR’s question about why Kentucky would use a checkerboard on their new hoops uniforms … according to the article in SBJ the idea of “storytelling” as I mentioned earlier takes into account local history.

    The checkerboard is in honor of horseracing, one of the famous Derby horses wore a blue/white checkboard dressing.

  • Nick | October 15, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    re: Chris Mason goalie stick

    Chris Mason uses custom Goalie BladeTape on his sticks.

    They also have designs for 21 NHL teams, 2010 Olympic Games, or you can customize your own BladeTape.

    You can get more information from http://www.bladetape... or find them on Facebook.