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Uni Watch Book Club: The Pro Football Experience

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When I visited Scott Little’s house last month, I got to spend a little bit of time perusing his bookshelf. One volume in particular caught my eye: The Pro Football Experience, a massive tome published in 1973. “Man, this is great!” I said, flipping through Scott’s copy (which he acquired, of course, at a thrift store, I believe for $6). To which he replied, “Dude, you don’t have that already? Are you kidding me?” I felt appropriately chastened.

But now I’ve got my own copy, and it’s a beaut (only cost me $8, too). The book is filled with lots of gorgeous design flourishes and details, and there’s a ton of spectacular photography, some of it in the form of gatefold fold-outs (Caitlin added for scale; Caitlin-free fold-out example here).

A few notes:

• The endpapers feature a really cool motion-blurred shot.

• Whenever I look at NFL pics from this era, I’m struck by all the arm padding and tape worn by the linemen — a stark contrast to the bare-armed linemen of today.

• Never seen anyone tailgating with so many eggs before. The photo was taken at Minnesota’s old Metropolitan Stadium.

This band played at Candlestick during 49ers games. Anyone know what the name refers to?

• I didn’t know they had inflatable helmet bladders as far back as the early 1970s.

• Remember when they had goal line flags, instead of pylons?

• I’m pretty sure I’ve linked to this photo before, but it sure is a doozy. Same goes for this one.

• Love the little handwritten uni numbers on the Browns’ helmets. Here’s another example.

• How great would it be to have one of these equipment bags?

Most of the other photos aren’t particularly uni-notable — just beautiful (additional examples here and here).

Want your own copy? There are several available here. Oddly, there’s also a “concise” paperback edition, which is smaller, shorter, and doesn’t have as many high-end production details (no fold-outs, e.g.). On the other hand, it’s much easier to fit on a bookshelf. If you want that one, it’s available here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Dig it: veep trading cards (with thanks to Chris Ashworth). ”¦ If you choose to believe the next-to-last graf of this article, LSU helped pioneer the tearaway jersey way back in 1907. Key passage: “Before each game, [LSU coach Edgar] Wingard would soak [RB Doc] Fenton’s woolen shirt in a mild acid solution to weaken the fabric. The Cubans often were left clutching at air, as had opposing American players” (with thanks to Brandon Vogel). ”¦ This illustration from yesterday’s Ticker prompted the following from Andrew Ranck: “That cover seems to have been done by John Churchill Chase. He was a native New Orleanean who did various cartooning work his entire life. He taught classes on New Orleans History at Tulane and drew a lot of covers for Tulane football programs. He also wrote a great book about the history of various New Orleans street names (a lot more interesting then it sounds, I promise). There’s a gallery with a couple of his football programs here.” Wow, great stuff — I particularly like this and this. ”¦ Most pathetic “TM” symbol ever? Could be. Further details here (with thanks to James Huening). ”¦ Andrew Sherriff reports that Fordham has changed its logo from this to this. ”¦ Here’s something you probably haven’t seen before: Colorado wearing gold. “They wore this ‘retro’ design for their game against Baylor in ’98,” says Dylan Wilbanks. “It was supposed to celebrate the 75th anniversary of Folsom Field. Unfortunately, they were absolutely hideous — gold top, black pants and helmet, but 1998 numbering.” ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Great college all-star jersey available for bid here. ”¦ Big article in Pravda yesterday about outfield grass mowing patterns. ”¦ If you liked my recent post about helmet carts, then you’ll definitely enjoy this shot halftime at Super Bowl VII (big thanks to Nicholas Wollen). ”¦ Good spot by Matt O’Brien, who noticed the “Final Season” tagging on Maz’s jersey from Sunday’s stadium-closing ceremonies at Shea. ”¦ Alarming report from Joe Hilseberg, who notes that the Ravens’ chest wordmark, which in the past has always been black, was purple on Monday night. ”¦ The Rangers won some lame-ass trophy nobody cares about the Victoria Cup yesterday by beating Metallurg Magnitogorsk, 4-3. “Has there ever been a more fear-evoking team name in the history of sports than a bunch of Russians named Metallurg Magnitogorsk?” asks Robert Tusso. “I bet I can guess how many hours of focus groups went into that one. Makes the current American process for team ‘branding’ seem kinda weak, no? Ooohh, the ‘Thunder,’ scary.” I don’t have the heart to inform Robert that Metallurg Magnitogorsk is actually Georgian for “Spinal Tap,” so don’t tell him, OK? ”¦ At first glance, this looks like one of those Wisconsin cheesehead thingies, but it’s actually a Denver Broncos helmet-cam, circa 1965. “It was made by the defense contractor General Dynamics,” says Bob Jones, who scanned the photo from an old Broncos program. “The side of the helmet has the General Dynamics 1960s ‘GD’ logo with color bars vertically placed between the G and D. ‘General Dynamics Astronautics’ is printed below the logo.” ”¦ When you’re faced with an economic meltdown, global warming, and a looming energy crisis, there’s really only one thing to do: turn on all the lights. That’s the Cira Center in Philly, as photographed by Eric Trager. ”¦ Rugby note so most of you can skip to the next item from Caleb Borchers, who writes: “Rugby is one of those sports where teams wear their typical strip unless it clashes with the home team’s look. But Adidas has decided that that’s not lucrative enough, so next year New Zealand’s five Super 14 teams will adopt a home/road jersey program, for no other reason then to sell jerseys.” ”¦ “Where were these when I was 10 years old?” asks Rick Subrizio. “I would have spent my whole allowance on them.” Lots of similar products scattered amongst the same seller’s other items.

 
  
 
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    In that pic of the goal line flag it’s weird that they’re using the chains in a goal-to-go situation.

    – Never seen anyone tailgating with so many eggs before. The photo was taken at Minnesota’s old Metropolitan Stadium.

    Kegs and Eggs

    I noticed in last night’s Sox/Angels game that Ellsbury’s left sleeve had a swoosh on the elbow. What’s that about, and is it new? I’ve been watching the Sox and following Ellsbury since last year’s series run (I’m an Oregon State alum living in Boston, I can’t help it), and I’ve never noticed it until last night.

    Cool map showing where NHL franchsies are located.

    link

    Really puts into perspective how close Eastern Conference Teams are. Also noticed that all teams used their primary logo on map. Expect for WAS, used secondary…

    Duquesne University, in Pittsburgh, apparently got new football uniforms this year. While the old ones were nothing special, the new ones are absolutely hideous:

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    (You have to click on the link for the photo gallery)

    Ok that link went to the slideshow only.

    if this one doesn’t work, it’s pic #6. Sorry for messing up.

    link

    The Red Garter is a defunct North Beach tourist trap featuring Dixieland jazz, red flocked wallpaper blackened by cigarette smoke and the ever popular leggy girl on a trapeze wearing–natch–a red garter. This was probably the house band playing before a game.

    some alarming news for cubbies fans…they are winless in playoff series (NLDS, NLCS or WS) when they drop the first game of that series…0 and 10…so…link

    Paul – that book is awesome. I especially love the shot of the Giants in Yankee Stadium.

    Chase also did program covers for University of Texas home games from 1953 to 1965 as well as some Texas-Oklahoma games. I have about 25 of these framed on my office wall. He also did Georgia Tech home covers for several years. I was thrilled to find and purchase a book containing all of the GT covers on the Georgia Tech campus a couple of years ago. Sorry, no pics with this message since I’m working. Will send some along later.

    The Cubs were using the same “It’s Gonna Happen” phrase last year. Don’t you have you stop using it at some point or will it just beome their permanent slogan?

    [quote comment=”292867″]Cool map showing where NHL franchsies are located.

    link

    Really puts into perspective how close Eastern Conference Teams are. Also noticed that all teams used their primary logo on map. Expect for WAS, used secondary…[/quote]

    Not sure if you meant it this way, but it’s made by TSN – Washington had no say in what logo they put on there.

    Also, for what it’s worth, Magnitogorsk came into being in Soviet Russia during Stalin’s time. It was an mining and steel town that produced steel at astonishing rates. So essentially, the Rangers defeated the “Russian Steelers.”

    The jersey w/letters/numbers stickers that Rick Subrizio submitted are availale anywhere scrapbooking supplies are sold. I wouldn’t expect youse-guys to know about that girly stuff. They also have embroidered team logos, tiny felt pennants and bas-relief replicas of some of the current ballparks. One of my sisters scrapbooks and I have some lovely scrapbooks of my baseball travels with these items in them.

    The reason for all the tape and padding on the O linemen in the older pics is that lineman used to be able to block with forearms only. When I played little league football they taught us to put our fist just above the heart, with elbows out. So to protect our forearms we wore arm pads (the tape helped them stay on because after a few games and washings the elastic would start to wear out, plus alot of us had our older brothers hand-me-down pads). Now of course they can block with their open palms, thus eliminating the need for all the padding.

    [quote comment=”292872″]some alarming news for cubbies fans…they are winless in playoff series (NLDS, NLCS or WS) when they drop the first game of that series…0 and 10…so…link[/quote]

    And just to add to that, the team that has won Game 1 of an NLDS is 23-3 in those series.

    [quote comment=”292873″]Paul – that book is awesome. I especially love the shot of the Giants in Yankee Stadium.[/quote]

    I have the book. It is an absolute must. Paul’s gallery really doesn’t do it justice, just because you cant cover 225 pages. The photo are huge, they are so big you could frame most of them.

    Before heading out, I glanced though mine. The eggs are from the fans chapter. Disappointed Paul didn’t include the shot of the two guys wearing FULL Skins unis, pants and all. One guy is playing a snare drum. Funny thing is, I went to my first RFK game in 1991 and those two guys were STILL wearing them 20 years later.

    I know not uni related, but a subject that Paul talks about, it is just sad when any public space is now up for sale

    link

    Next Stop, Times Square, as sponsored by Dick’s Sporting Goods!! (good grief…..)

    I guess “It’s Gonna Happen” doesn’t necessarily mean what is going to happen is good, just whatever it is, it will happen. I think I will sell “optimism shirts”, TOMORROW. . . IT’S GONNA HAPPEN or I JUST TOOK (EXLAX, Viagra, etc.). . . IT’S GONNA HAPPEN

    [quote comment=”292876″]The Cubs were using the same “It’s Gonna Happen” phrase last year. Don’t you have you stop using it at some point or will it just beome their permanent slogan?[/quote]

    When we went to Wrigley this summer every time the O’s scored a run our group all turned to them and yelled, “That just Happened!” They scored 11 runs that day! The fans didn’t really bother us about it.

    Magnitogorsk is a mining and industrial city in the Russian Ural Mountains; know for its steel mills. “Metallurg” is a metal worker or metal works.

    So, a rough translation would be “Magnitogorsk Steelers.” Sound better?

    Now “Traktor Chelyabinsk,” that one doesn’t translate as well…

    I’m not sure if link has been mentioned before, but it’s a company that sells link, which features framed artwork detailing each pro team’s uni evolution over the decades. The same website sells link (with removable domes where applicable), as well as college football stadium and NHL arena replicas. It’s all pretty pricey, but a fun browse nonetheless.

    [quote comment=”292884″]I guess “It’s Gonna Happen” doesn’t necessarily mean what is going to happen is good, just whatever it is, it will happen. I think I will sell “optimism shirts”, TOMORROW. . . IT’S GONNA HAPPEN or I JUST TOOK (EXLAX, Viagra, etc.). . . IT’S GONNA HAPPEN[/quote]

    exactly larry!…perhaps i wasn’t clear in my post…ON PURPOSE…its ambiguous at best and speciously optimistic at worst…

    i mean link link sooner or later…

    link

    [quote comment=”292880″]The reason for all the tape and padding on the O linemen in the older pics is that lineman used to be able to block with forearms only. When I played little league football they taught us to put our fist just above the heart, with elbows out. So to protect our forearms we wore arm pads (the tape helped them stay on because after a few games and washings the elastic would start to wear out, plus alot of us had our older brothers hand-me-down pads). Now of course they can block with their open palms, thus eliminating the need for all the padding.[/quote]
    Exactly right. You beat me to it.

    I watched the Ranger game last night. It was exciting (as far as exhibition games go). Metallurg is owned by an iron and steel company…although I dont speak Russian, it’s easy enough to translate.
    You can get your own Metallurg sweater here!:
    link

    [quote comment=”292891″]Geez, what is the deal with Mets pitchers and their run-ins with the law?
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    the funny thing is, when he was on the mound, burgos couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a fuckin boat…put him in a hummer tho…

    [quote comment=”292880″]The reason for all the tape and padding on the O linemen in the older pics is that lineman used to be able to block with forearms only. When I played little league football they taught us to put our fist just above the heart, with elbows out. So to protect our forearms we wore arm pads (the tape helped them stay on because after a few games and washings the elastic would start to wear out, plus alot of us had our older brothers hand-me-down pads). Now of course they can block with their open palms, thus eliminating the need for all the padding.[/quote]

    kinda like this…..
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    [quote comment=”292880″]The reason for all the tape and padding on the O linemen in the older pics is that lineman used to be able to block with forearms only. When I played little league football they taught us to put our fist just above the heart, with elbows out. So to protect our forearms we wore arm pads (the tape helped them stay on because after a few games and washings the elastic would start to wear out, plus alot of us had our older brothers hand-me-down pads). Now of course they can block with their open palms, thus eliminating the need for all the padding.[/quote]

    That’s right. Linemen weren’t allowed to use their hands until they changed the rules maybe around 1978 or so.

    [quote comment=”292885″][quote comment=”292876″]The Cubs were using the same “It’s Gonna Happen” phrase last year. Don’t you have you stop using it at some point or will it just beome their permanent slogan?[/quote]

    When we went to Wrigley this summer every time the O’s scored a run our group all turned to them and yelled, “That just Happened!” They scored 11 runs that day! The fans didn’t really bother us about it.[/quote]

    Awesome use of a Ricky Bobby quote.

    For the record, the New Orleans illustrator’s full name is John Churchill Chase. That’s the name you’ll find his books under. If you search for John Churchill alone, you’ll only find the Duke of Marlborough!

    The band you’re talking about that played in Candlestick very well may be a conglomeration of high school bands. My dad played in Candlestick at one point in the early 70’s (I think it was 71, which would have been fall of his senior year) as a member of a marching band, so I’m going to put two and two together. I’ll ask him to be sure… but there’s a chance here, people.

    The 1970’s had its share of problems. But NFL uniform designs were not among them.

    Look at how wonderful the original Falcons logo and uniforms were. Why on earth would they distance themselves from that?

    [quote comment=”292902″]The 1970’s had its share of problems. But NFL uniform designs were not among them.

    Look at how wonderful the original Falcons logo and uniforms were. Why on earth would they distance themselves from that?[/quote]

    Agreed. Though I was not a Falcons fan, they wore my favorite uniforms of the ’70s. When they got away from that look, it was a sad day.

    [quote comment=”292876″]The Cubs were using the same “It’s Gonna Happen” phrase last year. Don’t you have you stop using it at some point or will it just beome their permanent slogan?[/quote]
    No, they were not using it last year. Nor are they using it this year. It is not, was not and most likely never will be “their” slogan.

    It’s link slogan and I doubt they’re interested in seeing him make any more money off of it.

    [quote comment=”292903″][quote comment=”292902″]The 1970’s had its share of problems. But NFL uniform designs were not among them.

    Look at how wonderful the original Falcons logo and uniforms were. Why on earth would they distance themselves from that?[/quote]

    Agreed. Though I was not a Falcons fan, they wore my favorite uniforms of the ’70s. When they got away from that look, it was a sad day.[/quote]
    Yep. When I first heard they were changing their look, it was reported that they were going with new helmets and I remember thinking “OK, the black helmets will probably look great with the red jerseys.” And they would have, too.

    [quote comment=”292903″][quote comment=”292902″]The 1970’s had its share of problems. But NFL uniform designs were not among them.

    Look at how wonderful the original Falcons logo and uniforms were. Why on earth would they distance themselves from that?[/quote]

    Agreed. Though I was not a Falcons fan, they wore my favorite uniforms of the ’70s. When they got away from that look, it was a sad day.[/quote]

    Though I preferred the Falcons’ red jerseys to the black, this is one of my all-time favorite football cards from when I was a kid. There weren’t enough action shots in those days, and this looked so freakin’ cool to me.

    link

    [quote comment=”292907″]Ugh. New Fordam logo NOT an upgrade.[/quote]
    I kinda like it. The old looks a bit too much like link.

    [quote comment=”292905″][quote comment=”292903″][quote comment=”292902″]The 1970’s had its share of problems. But NFL uniform designs were not among them.

    Look at how wonderful the original Falcons logo and uniforms were. Why on earth would they distance themselves from that?[/quote]

    Agreed. Though I was not a Falcons fan, they wore my favorite uniforms of the ’70s. When they got away from that look, it was a sad day.[/quote]
    Yep. When I first heard they were changing their look, it was reported that they were going with new helmets and I remember thinking “OK, the black helmets will probably look great with the red jerseys.” And they would have, too.[/quote]
    Maybe they just got tired of looking exactly like UGA.

    For the NASCAR fans out there, Jeff Gordon is changing his paint scheme next year. He has used the same scheme for the past eight years. Not bad. I like the flames.

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    [quote comment=”292913″]For the NASCAR fans out there, Jeff Gordon is changing his paint scheme next year. He has used the same scheme for the past eight years. Not bad. I like the flames.

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    it’s the fastest who get paid and it’s the fastest who get laid

    [quote comment=”292913″]For the NASCAR fans out there, Jeff Gordon is changing his paint scheme next year. He has used the same scheme for the past eight years. Not bad. I like the flames.

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    Well he won his last Cup championship when he switched from his old Rainbow design to the current Fire and Flames design in 2001. Maybe he’s hoping lightning strikes twice……?

    [quote comment=”292867″]Cool map showing where NHL franchsies are located.

    link

    Really puts into perspective how close Eastern Conference Teams are. Also noticed that all teams used their primary logo on map. Expect for WAS, used secondary…[/quote]

    Whoever made the map is also geographically deficient. The Dakotas are combined as is Idaho and Montana.

    [quote comment=”292894″]The colored lights at the Cira Centre are LEDs, so they’re actually energy efficient.[/quote]
    And I’m sure if the Mets made the post-season, the NY skyline would be dark. Do I sense a little sour-grapes?

    WTF happened? This is what I just posted –>

    [quote comment=”292916″]Whoever made the map is also geographically deficient. The Dakotas are combined as is Idaho and Montana.[/quote]
    Insert snarky, East Coast “who gives a $hit about those states, anyway?” comment here.

    [quote comment=”292916″][quote comment=”292867″]Cool map showing where NHL franchsies are located.

    link

    Really puts into perspective how close Eastern Conference Teams are. Also noticed that all teams used their primary logo on map. Expect for WAS, used secondary…[/quote]

    Whoever made the map is also geographically deficient. The Dakotas are combined as is Idaho and Montana.[/quote]

    Looks like they have also combined New Hampshire and Vermont. They also have the Thrashers down around Macon and the Wild way too far North. Pretty bad.

    [quote comment=”292901″]whats up with Jay-Bay’s pants?

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    I am not a tailor, but I think that might be a poor patch job for a whole in the pants

    70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.

    [quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]
    Agreed. I also liked the white Deion/Jeff George/Dirty Bird era jerseys. The black numbers and the sleeve patches really seemed to pop.

    [quote comment=”292874″]Chase also did program covers for University of Texas home games from 1953 to 1965 as well as some Texas-Oklahoma games. I have about 25 of these framed on my office wall. He also did Georgia Tech home covers for several years. I was thrilled to find and purchase a book containing all of the GT covers on the Georgia Tech campus a couple of years ago. Sorry, no pics with this message since I’m working. Will send some along later.[/quote]

    Rice programs too! Many Texas and Rice ones can be seen link. A little memory intensive, sorry!

    great photos from that book… i also like that classic Falcons uni.

    and that shot of the browns….why is it they look best with white socks (with stripes) when wearing the all-white uniform, while the Bears look better when they have navy socks (with stripes) with their white jersey/pants combo?

    [quote comment=”292927″]Can anyone verify/explain this old Pat’s mascot?

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    Whoa… Am I the only one whose first thought was Ace and Gary?

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    …….you’re killing me…..

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    Jeebus. That thing is an abomination.

    I feel about Favre the way I felt about Molitor: Loved how the guy played for my team. But he doesn’t play for my team anymore.

    The Milwaukee CBS affiliate reportedly asked for all the Jets games it could get its metaphorical hands on. Apparently, disgruntled Packers fans have realized that, even with Favre playing there, they just don’t care about the Jets:

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    I don’t think the myjetpack guy is going to move too many units.

    There is no NFL team today that looks as good as its predecessor looked in 1973.

    That’s sad.

    The Fordham logo change, if it’s not some early April Fool’s joke, is backwards and hideous. Did they scan in some drawing by a kid?

    [quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    Agreed. Now they’re just another characterless black-uni team.

    [quote comment=”292938″]New basketball uniforms for The University of Oklahoma

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    Aside from the collar, they look good.

    [quote comment=”292927″]Hey!

    Can anyone verify/explain this old Pat’s mascot?

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    WHOA!

    Over the past five years or so, approximately skatey-eight bajillion Pats fans have told me the story about how the Pats once had a “mascot contest” during halftime, with fans being instructed to “vote” via applause for either Pat Patriot or a proposed replacement mascot. Pat won, so that was the end of that, but nobody has every come up with a photo of what the proposed replacement looked like (although several people have told me he bore at least a very superficial resemblance to Flying Elvis). Could this illustration be it?

    [quote comment=”292939″][quote comment=”292938″]New basketball uniforms for The University of Oklahoma

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    Aside from the collar, they look good.[/quote]
    False.

    [quote comment=”292941″][quote comment=”292939″][quote comment=”292938″]New basketball uniforms for The University of Oklahoma

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    Aside from the collar, they look good.[/quote]
    False.[/quote]

    Up until last year, OU had really nice understated basketball uniforms that were among the best in the NCAA.

    While these new ones are better than what they had last season, they still look like they would be for a women’s team.

    Enough with the tight sleeveless t-shirt jerseys!

    [quote comment=”292939″]http://s3.amazonaws.com/newsok-photos/504773/lead620.jpg
    Aside from the collar, they look good.[/quote]
    Aside from the sleeveless t-shirt look, the striping under the arms, the striping on the shoulders and the striping on the bottom of the shorts, they look good.

    /fixed

    [quote comment=”292931″]…….you’re killing me…..

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    Jeebus. That thing is an abomination.

    I feel about Favre the way I felt about Molitor: Loved how the guy played for my team. But he doesn’t play for my team anymore.

    The Milwaukee CBS affiliate reportedly asked for all the Jets games it could get its metaphorical hands on. Apparently, disgruntled Packers fans have realized that, even with Favre playing there, they just don’t care about the Jets:

    link

    I don’t think the myjetpack guy is going to move too many units.[/quote]

    Agreed. That thing is herrible (horrible and terrible) Is it even worth a discussion on how wrong the “4” is?

    Sadly, after last Sunday’s performance by the Packers and Jets, I would much rather watch the Jets. (yes I know they played Arizona..). It gives me an AFC team to cheer for. With the lack of performance by Rodgers and Grant, and the injury bug on defense, I fear it’s over for the Pack this year.

    Yet I’ll still be at Lambeau screaming like a maniac come Sunday. Help…

    [quote comment=”292937″][quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    Agreed. Now they’re just another characterless black-uni team.[/quote]

    The Falcons haven’t worn their balck jerseys in awhile. In fact for the first for games this year it has been their red jerseys with white pants. I even think they have made the change to have their red jerseys their home jersey so now their black jersey is just an alt.

    I don’t know which is more shocking… the fact that the cover of the book shows Busch Stadium II housing football… or that so many people showed up to watch the Football Cardinals

    [quote comment=”292942″]what a shitty way to study film!

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    holy shit! i had link when i was a mere lad…that’s how you viewed those ‘film circles’…

    never had any sports stuff tho…made by GAF…i think they advertised on mutual of omaha’s wild kingdom and i just HAD HAD HAD to have one…they were really cheap pieces of shit, and i always had to close one eye to view stuff, because that “3D” they advertised wasn’t

    [quote comment=”292947″][quote comment=”292937″][quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    Agreed. Now they’re just another characterless black-uni team.[/quote]

    The Falcons haven’t worn their balck jerseys in awhile. In fact for the first for games this year it has been their red jerseys with white pants. I even think they have made the change to have their red jerseys their home jersey so now their black jersey is just an alt.[/quote]

    The black jerseys were the home jerseys for just one year, when they first did the re-design in 2003, and they made the red jerseys the official home jerseys in 2004. Since then, they pair the black tops with black pants as alternates.

    [quote comment=”292950″][quote comment=”292947″][quote comment=”292937″][quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    Agreed. Now they’re just another characterless black-uni team.[/quote]

    The Falcons haven’t worn their balck jerseys in awhile. In fact for the first for games this year it has been their red jerseys with white pants. I even think they have made the change to have their red jerseys their home jersey so now their black jersey is just an alt.[/quote]

    The black jerseys were the home jerseys for just one year, when they first did the re-design in 2003, and they made the red jerseys the official home jerseys in 2004. Since then, they pair the black tops with black pants as alternates.[/quote]

    Let me rephrase that: When the Falcons did the re-design in 2003, they used the new black jerseys as home jerseys for one year. Since then, they have used red as the primary home jersey.

    Obviously, they’d been using black for more than one season prior to 2003……

    [quote comment=”292950″][quote comment=”292947″][quote comment=”292937″][quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    Agreed. Now they’re just another characterless black-uni team.[/quote]

    The Falcons haven’t worn their balck jerseys in awhile. In fact for the first for games this year it has been their red jerseys with white pants. I even think they have made the change to have their red jerseys their home jersey so now their black jersey is just an alt.[/quote]

    The black jerseys were the home jerseys for just one year, when they first did the re-design in 2003, and they made the red jerseys the official home jerseys in 2004. Since then, they pair the black tops with black pants as alternates.[/quote]

    Correct. As I said they havent worn them in awhile. I think the last time they did wear them is when the asshats wore the Free Mike Vick shirts.

    It gives me an AFC team to cheer for. With the lack of performance by Rodgers and Grant, and the injury bug on defense, I fear it’s over for the Pack this year. Yet I’ll still be at Lambeau screaming like a maniac come Sunday. Help…
    You know this answer already, JessinMKE: Because you were a Packers fan before you ever heard the words “It’s pronounced ‘farve,’ as in carve.” Or, it’s hit you that you love Favre, but you love the Packers more. That’s my guess. :)

    Twiedy hit the nail on the coffee table regarding the book. Paul has only scratched the surface with those (admittedly excellent) scans.

    If any of you feel like going hunting for it …

    link

    … this site specializes in rare and out-of-print. I’ve been happy with their results.

    Aw, Caitlin makes for a GREAT barometer for–well, anything. She and Tucker need to be featured more. Maybe in Mets’ ensembles? No, scratch that–cats should not be dressed up.

    That eggs and tailgating party from the Met is awesome. Now, that is the parking lot for the Megamall. Sad, so sad.

    [quote comment=”292955″]Twiedy hit the nail on the coffee table regarding the book.[/quote]

    it’s lweidy … (“L’ as in “Larry”) ;)

    remember when we were last discussing the saints black pants and unitard look (you know…link…)

    why can’t they link back, if they have to wear the black pants at all? stripes and white socks really make that look so much better

    [quote comment=”292957″][quote comment=”292955″]Twiedy hit the nail on the coffee table regarding the book.[/quote]

    it’s lweidy … (“L’ as in “Larry”) ;)[/quote]

    christ…i can’t even spell…lwiedy (still an “l” though…sorry larry)

    [quote comment=”292955″]It gives me an AFC team to cheer for. With the lack of performance by Rodgers and Grant, and the injury bug on defense, I fear it’s over for the Pack this year. Yet I’ll still be at Lambeau screaming like a maniac come Sunday. Help…
    You know this answer already, JessinMKE: Because you were a Packers fan before you ever heard the words “It’s pronounced ‘farve,’ as in carve.” Or, it’s hit you that you love Favre, but you love the Packers more. That’s my guess. :)
    [/quote]

    You know it Tom. As my best friend pointed out, there is a green G tattooed on my leg, NOT a picture of Brett Favre…

    Didn’t Paul do an article on tattooed logos once? (Trying to stay on topic…)

    [quote comment=”292958″]remember when we were last discussing the saints black pants and unitard look (you know…link…)

    why can’t they link back, if they have to wear the black pants at all? stripes and white socks really make that look so much better[/quote]

    I second the motion. While I maintain my opposition to NFL teams wearing pants in any color besides white/gray/silver/yellow/gold, if they insist on doing so, at least include stripes so as to avoid looking like total twits.

    [quote comment=”292962″][quote comment=”292958″]remember when we were last discussing the saints black pants and unitard look (you know…link…)

    why can’t they link back, if they have to wear the black pants at all? stripes and white socks really make that look so much better[/quote]

    I second the motion. While I maintain my opposition to NFL teams wearing pants in any color besides white/gray/silver/yellow/gold, if they insist on doing so, at least include stripes so as to avoid looking like total twits.[/quote]

    Agreed, and the stipes should be “conventional,” waist-to-knee style, not those silly “knife-blades” foisted on many contemporary teams.

    [quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    As I recall, when the Falcons were founded, their official colors were red and black and gold and white, honoring, respectively, Georgia and Georgia Tech. Are these colors still official?

    [quote comment=”292963″][quote comment=”292962″][quote comment=”292958″]remember when we were last discussing the saints black pants and unitard look (you know…link…)

    why can’t they link back, if they have to wear the black pants at all? stripes and white socks really make that look so much better[/quote]

    I second the motion. While I maintain my opposition to NFL teams wearing pants in any color besides white/gray/silver/yellow/gold, if they insist on doing so, at least include stripes so as to avoid looking like total twits.[/quote]

    Agreed, and the stipes should be “conventional,” waist-to-knee style, not those silly “knife-blades” foisted on many contemporary teams.[/quote]

    Good point. You are exactly right. I should have made that clear, as I would not want any tapered madness to slip into the mix.

    [quote comment=”292959″][quote comment=”292957″][quote comment=”292955″]Twiedy hit the nail on the coffee table regarding the book.[/quote]

    it’s lweidy … (“L’ as in “Larry”) ;)[/quote]

    christ…i can’t even spell…lwiedy (still an “l” though…sorry larry)[/quote]

    Ha ha, Phil. If I had a nickel for every “e before i” I’ve seen, well, I’d have a lot of nickels. No problem on the ‘T’ either, although I’ve made the proper adjustment.

    Another note, pretty appropriate Longo puts up the first run for the Rays. Some might say Crawford, Baldelli, but this guy made himself the face of the franchise in less than one year.

    The Saints don’t wear that pant style because…wait for it…IT LOOKED LIKE CRAP
    all the posters on this site do is bitch about how things never look as good now as they used to…blah blah blah…
    (insert old man bitching at teenagers for wearing baggy pants comment here)
    hey, Arcie Bunker, this isn’t the 70s, the 50s, or ehwatever decade you think was ‘the golden age’ of uniforms
    i like the broncos piping, if for nothing else, it’s a nice change than every team wearing waist to knee stripes.
    Whether or not you think it looks good, constantly complaining and bitching about how old uniforms are universally better is 1) annoying 2) completely unfounded.

    there are museums to visit and shorpy and even Paul who will link you massive amounts of old photos of unis you’re sure to drool over.
    Enough already

    [quote comment=”292887″]I’m not sure if link has been mentioned before, but it’s a company that sells link, which features framed artwork detailing each pro team’s uni evolution over the decades. The same website sells link (with removable domes where applicable), as well as college football stadium and NHL arena replicas. It’s all pretty pricey, but a fun browse nonetheless.[/quote]

    I bought my brother a Packers one of those for christmas a few years back. They’re pretty cool

    [quote comment=”292968″]The Saints don’t wear that pant style because…wait for it…IT LOOKED LIKE CRAP
    all the posters on this site do is bitch about how things never look as good now as they used to…blah blah blah…
    (insert old man bitching at teenagers for wearing baggy pants comment here)
    hey, Arcie Bunker, this isn’t the 70s, the 50s, or ehwatever decade you think was ‘the golden age’ of uniforms
    i like the broncos piping, if for nothing else, it’s a nice change than every team wearing waist to knee stripes.
    Whether or not you think it looks good, constantly complaining and bitching about how old uniforms are universally better is 1) annoying 2) completely unfounded.

    there are museums to visit and shorpy and even Paul who will link you massive amounts of old photos of unis you’re sure to drool over.
    Enough already[/quote]

    So why don’t you just say something like “Wow, the old NFL unis looked like crap. The new ones are much easier on the eyes.” instead of lashing out at other posters?

    Now get the hell off my lawn.

    [quote comment=”292970″][quote comment=”292968″]The Saints don’t wear that pant style because…wait for it…IT LOOKED LIKE CRAP
    all the posters on this site do is bitch about how things never look as good now as they used to…blah blah blah…
    (insert old man bitching at teenagers for wearing baggy pants comment here)
    hey, Arcie Bunker, this isn’t the 70s, the 50s, or ehwatever decade you think was ‘the golden age’ of uniforms
    i like the broncos piping, if for nothing else, it’s a nice change than every team wearing waist to knee stripes.
    Whether or not you think it looks good, constantly complaining and bitching about how old uniforms are universally better is 1) annoying 2) completely unfounded.

    there are museums to visit and shorpy and even Paul who will link you massive amounts of old photos of unis you’re sure to drool over.
    Enough already[/quote]

    So why don’t you just say something like “Wow, the old NFL unis looked like crap. The new ones are much easier on the eyes.” instead of lashing out at other posters?

    Now get the hell off my lawn.[/quote]

    Ok, let shut off the comments, dare we upset delicate sensibilities. Is there thought out there that if a point is made over and over, and is fill it with colorful metaphors, at some point it becomes valid criticism? I’M ARCHIE BUNKER AND I’M NOT GOING ANYWHERE so get use to it.

    [quote comment=”292964″][quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    As I recall, when the Falcons were founded, their official colors were red and black and gold and white, honoring, respectively, Georgia and Georgia Tech. Are these colors still official?[/quote]

    Wow, didn’t know the gold stripe on the helmet was homage to Tech. Good stuff.

    [quote comment=”292964″][quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    As I recall, when the Falcons were founded, their official colors were red and black and gold and white, honoring, respectively, Georgia and Georgia Tech. Are these colors still official?[/quote]

    Nope – they dropped them after the link season.

    *SIGH*

    Looking at all those old NFL photos makes me wonder:

    What happened to sleeves?

    Yeah, I know…guys like to have less jersey for opponents to grab, like to show off their biceps, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada…I’ve heard it.

    Nevertheless, I miss REAL sleeves on football jerseys–sleeves that can adequately display stripes, TV numbers, logos, etc. I don’t need to see 3/4 length sleeves like Johnny U’s, but a nice mid-bicep to elbow-length might be nice.

    You want cropped-sleeves run amok? Take a look:

    link

    Pardon me for not knowing but is that Will McDonough doing PBP on the Sox-Rays? He has twice anticipated a ball hitting a catwalk. Someone needs to tell him how infrequently it happens and stop trying to “call it”

    [quote comment=”292967″][quote comment=”292959″][quote comment=”292957″][quote comment=”292955″]Twiedy hit the nail on the coffee table regarding the book.[/quote]

    it’s lweidy … (“L’ as in “Larry”) ;)[/quote]

    christ…i can’t even spell…lwiedy (still an “l” though…sorry larry)[/quote]

    Ha ha, Phil. If I had a nickel for every “e before i” I’ve seen, well, I’d have a lot of nickels. No problem on the ‘T’ either, although I’ve made the proper adjustment.

    Another note, pretty appropriate Longo puts up the first run for the Rays. Some might say Crawford, Baldelli, but this guy made himself the face of the franchise in less than one year.[/quote]

    And now Longo has two (appropiatly enough my security word is gone). Can’t wait for the guys over at Rays Index modify the Tampa Bay Mashup and put another skull and crossbones for the Rays.

    [quote comment=”292939″][quote comment=”292938″]New basketball uniforms for The University of Oklahoma

    link

    link

    Aside from the collar, they look good.[/quote]

    Here are some cleaner picks of the new uni’s…I love the Sooner Schooner wheel on the waste line.
    link

    [quote comment=”292979″][quote comment=”292939″][quote comment=”292938″]New basketball uniforms for The University of Oklahoma

    link

    link

    Aside from the collar, they look good.[/quote]

    Here are some cleaner picks of the new uni’s…I love the Sooner Schooner wheel on the waste line.
    link

    I will say at least their shorts aren’t down to their ankles like Oregon or other SOD schools.

    can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…

    last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…

    /go rays!

    I can’t find any good photos on MLB that show one way or the other … are Wrigley Fields dugout tops the only ones that got a completely new paint color (dark blue from dark green) with the post season? I saw last night the Angels dugouts are red on top, but I suppose they were before this as well.

    [quote comment=”292976″]*SIGH*

    Looking at all those old NFL photos makes me wonder:

    What happened to sleeves?

    Yeah, I know…guys like to have less jersey for opponents to grab, like to show off their biceps, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada…I’ve heard it.

    Nevertheless, I miss REAL sleeves on football jerseys–sleeves that can adequately display stripes, TV numbers, logos, etc. I don’t need to see 3/4 length sleeves like Johnny U’s, but a nice mid-bicep to elbow-length might be nice.

    You want cropped-sleeves run amok? Take a look:

    link

    That’s not even close to this: link

    Justin’s right, after looking at Hovan, how can anybody think this looks good : link Shake yourself, dude.

    [quote comment=\”292977\”]Pardon me for not knowing but is that Will McDonough doing PBP on the Sox-Rays? He has twice anticipated a ball hitting a catwalk. Someone needs to tell him how infrequently it happens and stop trying to \”call it\”[/quote]
    Sorry if I missed a joke in there, Larry. Did you mean Sean McDonough? Will died five years ago.

    [quote comment=”292894″]The colored lights at the Cira Centre are LEDs, so they’re actually energy efficient.[/quote]
    but not as efficient as being off.

    Pretty cool little game here on ESPN. It’s mostly a “find the differences” game but it deals with unis and such. It gets harder as you go along.

    Enjoy!

    link

    [quote comment=”292984″][quote comment=\”292977\”]Pardon me for not knowing but is that Will McDonough doing PBP on the Sox-Rays? He has twice anticipated a ball hitting a catwalk. Someone needs to tell him how infrequently it happens and stop trying to \”call it\”[/quote]
    Sorry if I missed a joke in there, Larry. Did you mean Sean McDonough? Will died five years ago.[/quote]

    See, Justin was right, I’m just an old man who still thinks its 1987. Thanks for the correction :-)

    Looking for a little help fiding a sports related shirt. I saw it before on a web-site but was dumb and didn’t purchase it at the time thinking I would remember where I saw it. It’s from the movie ‘The Sandlot’. It has a picture of the policeman from mid-shoulder up, and under the picture is the word FOREVER. Any help on where to find it would be great. I have googled a ton of words and nothing has come up. Thanks

    [quote comment=”292940″][quote comment=”292927″]Hey!

    Can anyone verify/explain this old Pat’s mascot?

    link

    WHOA!

    Over the past five years or so, approximately skatey-eight bajillion Pats fans have told me the story about how the Pats once had a “mascot contest” during halftime, with fans being instructed to “vote” via applause for either Pat Patriot or a proposed replacement mascot. Pat won, so that was the end of that, but nobody has every come up with a photo of what the proposed replacement looked like (although several people have told me he bore at least a very superficial resemblance to Flying Elvis). Could this illustration be it?[/quote]

    I don’t think that was it, Paul. IIRC, the proposed logo looked just like Pat Patriot, but was holding an american flag like a one-man Iwo Jima memorial. I do NOT remember him looking like the modern Flying Elvis…

    Then again, I was maybe 6-7 at the time…

    [quote comment=\”292981\”]last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…[/quote]
    Ballots for all the postseason awards (ROY, MVP, Cy Young) must be postmarked no later than the day after the regular season ends.

    That said, Longoria should be a lock, with Ramirez a distant second.

    [quote comment=”292981″]can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…

    last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…

    /go rays![/quote]
    Well, his power numbers are a bit better than Ramirez’s. Ramirez is better defensively, though.

    The four grand slams for Ramirez might be the one stat that jumps out at voters as a deciding factor. Especially the one in the Tigers game that put them in front and allowed them to play in the tiebreaker against the Twins.

    Does the fact that Longoria only played about three quarters of a season and put up the numbers that he did help him or hurt him?

    [quote comment=”292986″]Pretty cool little game here on ESPN. It’s mostly a “find the differences” game but it deals with unis and such. It gets harder as you go along.

    Enjoy!

    link

    Only weak thing is that it’s the same photos with the same errors each time… first time, it’s fun though.

    [quote comment=”292991″][quote comment=”292981″]can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…

    last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…

    /go rays![/quote]
    Well, his power numbers are a bit better than Ramirez’s. Ramirez is better defensively, though.

    Does the fact that Longoria only played about three quarters of a season and put up the numbers that he did help him or hurt him?[/quote]

    I have no idea how good Ramirez is defensively, but Longoria was often mentioned as potentially a GG’er. May grant you “as good” only becasue I don’t know. If he’s better, he better be Nellie Fox. As for his 3/4 season, probably helps, most pro-rate stats in order to evaluate, so he only gets better there. Longo’s a lock.

    [quote comment=”292933″]There is no NFL team today that looks as good as its predecessor looked in 1973.

    That’s sad.[/quote]

    Here, here!!

    [quote comment=”292986″]Pretty cool little game here on ESPN. It’s mostly a “find the differences” game but it deals with unis and such. It gets harder as you go along.

    Enjoy!

    link

    Wtf? I’ve never been blocked at work before with ESPN. I guess because it’s a game, they put this through the spam filter. Blows.

    [quote comment=”292987″][quote comment=”292984″][quote comment=\”292977\”]Pardon me for not knowing but is that Will McDonough doing PBP on the Sox-Rays? He has twice anticipated a ball hitting a catwalk. Someone needs to tell him how infrequently it happens and stop trying to \”call it\”[/quote]
    Sorry if I missed a joke in there, Larry. Did you mean Sean McDonough? Will died five years ago.[/quote]

    See, Justin was right, I’m just an old man who still thinks its 1987. Thanks for the correction :-)[/quote]
    It’s Don Orsillo.

    [quote comment=”292995″][quote comment=”292986″]Pretty cool little game here on ESPN. It’s mostly a “find the differences” game but it deals with unis and such. It gets harder as you go along.

    Enjoy!

    link

    Wtf? I’ve never been blocked at work before with ESPN. I guess because it’s a game, they put this through the spam filter. Blows.[/quote]
    Same thing happened to me.

    [quote comment=”292975″][quote comment=”292964″][quote comment=”292923″]70’s Falcon unis were a nice look. Clean, uncluttered. The red helmet w/black falcon is a classic in my book.[/quote]

    As I recall, when the Falcons were founded, their official colors were red and black and gold and white, honoring, respectively, Georgia and Georgia Tech. Are these colors still official?[/quote]

    Nope – they dropped them after the link season.[/quote]

    Too bad. The gold was a nice touch ….

    [quote comment=”292993″][quote comment=”292991″][quote comment=”292981″]can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…

    last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…

    /go rays![/quote]
    Well, his power numbers are a bit better than Ramirez’s. Ramirez is better defensively, though.

    Does the fact that Longoria only played about three quarters of a season and put up the numbers that he did help him or hurt him?[/quote]

    I have no idea how good Ramirez is defensively, but Longoria was often mentioned as potentially a GG’er. May grant you “as good” only becasue I don’t know. If he’s better, he better be Nellie Fox. As for his 3/4 season, probably helps, most pro-rate stats in order to evaluate, so he only gets better there. Longo’s a lock.[/quote]

    {sarcasm}
    Longo is a bum. He only hit a single his third time up. Only 3 RBI’s in his frist 3 postseason at bats. Time to bench him. {/sarcasm}

    [quote comment=”292996″][quote comment=”292987″][quote comment=”292984″][quote comment=\”292977\”]Pardon me for not knowing but is that Will McDonough doing PBP on the Sox-Rays? He has twice anticipated a ball hitting a catwalk. Someone needs to tell him how infrequently it happens and stop trying to \”call it\”[/quote]
    Sorry if I missed a joke in there, Larry. Did you mean Sean McDonough? Will died five years ago.[/quote]

    See, Justin was right, I’m just an old man who still thinks its 1987. Thanks for the correction :-)[/quote]
    It’s Don Orsillo.[/quote]

    OH the Red Sox guy. Thanks. Would I be wrong to say he sounds like McD?

    I guess Ozzie WASN’T wrong about Vazquez. But Oz, why do you keep putting him in big game situations?

    [quote comment=”293000″]OH the Red Sox guy. Thanks. Would I be wrong to say he sounds like McD?[/quote]
    Not at all — I confused the two of them for years whenever I was visiting family up in Massachusetts…

    [quote comment=”292999″][quote comment=”292993″][quote comment=”292991″][quote comment=”292981″]can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…

    last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…

    /go rays![/quote]
    Well, his power numbers are a bit better than Ramirez’s. Ramirez is better defensively, though.

    Does the fact that Longoria only played about three quarters of a season and put up the numbers that he did help him or hurt him?[/quote]

    I have no idea how good Ramirez is defensively, but Longoria was often mentioned as potentially a GG’er. May grant you “as good” only becasue I don’t know. If he’s better, he better be Nellie Fox. As for his 3/4 season, probably helps, most pro-rate stats in order to evaluate, so he only gets better there. Longo’s a lock.[/quote]

    {sarcasm}
    Longo is a bum. He only hit a single his third time up. Only 3 RBI’s in his frist 3 postseason at bats. Time to bench him. {/sarcasm}[/quote]

    My first good look at him was the three game set in Orlando in April. Wow, did he stand out. Look, that’s not a news flash, but he really seems to be one of those once in a generation players.

    As a KC fan, he is what Alex Gordon is expected to be but isn’t.

    [quote comment=”293000″][quote comment=”292996″][quote comment=”292987″][quote comment=”292984″][quote comment=\”292977\”]Pardon me for not knowing but is that Will McDonough doing PBP on the Sox-Rays? He has twice anticipated a ball hitting a catwalk. Someone needs to tell him how infrequently it happens and stop trying to \”call it\”[/quote]
    Sorry if I missed a joke in there, Larry. Did you mean Sean McDonough? Will died five years ago.[/quote]

    See, Justin was right, I’m just an old man who still thinks its 1987. Thanks for the correction :-)[/quote]
    It’s Don Orsillo.[/quote]

    OH the Red Sox guy. Thanks. Would I be wrong to say he sounds like McD?

    I guess Ozzie WASN’T wrong about Vazquez. But Oz, why do you keep putting him in big game situations?[/quote]
    With Contreras out, who’s he gonna put out there?

    [quote comment=”293002″][quote comment=”292999″][quote comment=”292993″][quote comment=”292991″][quote comment=”292981″]can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…

    last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…

    /go rays![/quote]
    Well, his power numbers are a bit better than Ramirez’s. Ramirez is better defensively, though.

    Does the fact that Longoria only played about three quarters of a season and put up the numbers that he did help him or hurt him?[/quote]

    I have no idea how good Ramirez is defensively, but Longoria was often mentioned as potentially a GG’er. May grant you “as good” only becasue I don’t know. If he’s better, he better be Nellie Fox. As for his 3/4 season, probably helps, most pro-rate stats in order to evaluate, so he only gets better there. Longo’s a lock.[/quote]

    {sarcasm}
    Longo is a bum. He only hit a single his third time up. Only 3 RBI’s in his frist 3 postseason at bats. Time to bench him. {/sarcasm}[/quote]

    My first good look at him was the three game set in Orlando in April. Wow, did he stand out. Look, that’s not a news flash, but he really seems to be one of those once in a generation players.

    As a KC fan, he is what Alex Gordon is expected to be but isn’t.[/quote]

    I actually got to see him in Montgomery with the Biscuits as well ass Upton, Shields, Gomes and plenty others. Worth the 1.5 hour drive from my place.

    [quote comment=”293003″][quote comment=”293000″][quote comment=”292996″][quote comment=”292987″][quote comment=”292984″][quote comment=\”292977\”]Pardon me for not knowing but is that Will McDonough doing PBP on the Sox-Rays? He has twice anticipated a ball hitting a catwalk. Someone needs to tell him how infrequently it happens and stop trying to \”call it\”[/quote]
    Sorry if I missed a joke in there, Larry. Did you mean Sean McDonough? Will died five years ago.[/quote]

    See, Justin was right, I’m just an old man who still thinks its 1987. Thanks for the correction :-)[/quote]
    It’s Don Orsillo.[/quote]

    OH the Red Sox guy. Thanks. Would I be wrong to say he sounds like McD?

    I guess Ozzie WASN’T wrong about Vazquez. But Oz, why do you keep putting him in big game situations?[/quote]
    With Contreras out, who’s he gonna put out there?[/quote]

    Obviously, he has cast his lot on rotation but he felt at least two weeks ago he was not a big game guy. If you rip your player don’t be suprised if he proves you right, its just a pretty critical situation to prove a point (not that he wanted that).

    I, too, have the Pro Football Experience book. I haven’t got the slightest idea where or how or when I got it, but I’ve been toting it around for at least the last 20 years from address to address. It’s a great book.

    And my Johnny U. throwback has 3/4 sleeves. It rocks.

    [quote comment=”293004″][quote comment=”293002″][quote comment=”292999″][quote comment=”292993″][quote comment=”292991″][quote comment=”292981″]can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…

    last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…

    /go rays![/quote]
    Well, his power numbers are a bit better than Ramirez’s. Ramirez is better defensively, though.

    Does the fact that Longoria only played about three quarters of a season and put up the numbers that he did help him or hurt him?[/quote]

    I have no idea how good Ramirez is defensively, but Longoria was often mentioned as potentially a GG’er. May grant you “as good” only becasue I don’t know. If he’s better, he better be Nellie Fox. As for his 3/4 season, probably helps, most pro-rate stats in order to evaluate, so he only gets better there. Longo’s a lock.[/quote]

    {sarcasm}
    Longo is a bum. He only hit a single his third time up. Only 3 RBI’s in his frist 3 postseason at bats. Time to bench him. {/sarcasm}[/quote]

    My first good look at him was the three game set in Orlando in April. Wow, did he stand out. Look, that’s not a news flash, but he really seems to be one of those once in a generation players.

    As a KC fan, he is what Alex Gordon is expected to be but isn’t.[/quote]

    I actually got to see him in Montgomery with the Biscuits as well ass Upton, Shields, Gomes and plenty others. Worth the 1.5 hour drive from my place.[/quote]

    Yes, Upton was sometimes just that ;-)

    [quote comment=”292968″]The Saints don’t wear that pant style because…wait for it…IT LOOKED LIKE CRAP
    all the posters on this site do is bitch about how things never look as good now as they used to…blah blah blah…
    (insert old man bitching at teenagers for wearing baggy pants comment here)
    hey, Arcie Bunker, this isn’t the 70s, the 50s, or ehwatever decade you think was ‘the golden age’ of uniforms
    i like the broncos piping, if for nothing else, it’s a nice change than every team wearing waist to knee stripes.
    Whether or not you think it looks good, constantly complaining and bitching about how old uniforms are universally better is 1) annoying 2) completely unfounded.

    there are museums to visit and shorpy and even Paul who will link you massive amounts of old photos of unis you’re sure to drool over.
    Enough already[/quote]

    I disagree with you on every count.

    [quote comment=”293007″][quote comment=”293004″][quote comment=”293002″][quote comment=”292999″][quote comment=”292993″][quote comment=”292991″][quote comment=”292981″]can’t access the games at work (but thanks for the ‘link’ larry)…however, my co-worker just informed me evan just hit another tater…

    last night i asked whether geo soto is your NL ROY…imo guess evan longo has it locked up in the AL…

    /go rays![/quote]
    Well, his power numbers are a bit better than Ramirez’s. Ramirez is better defensively, though.

    Does the fact that Longoria only played about three quarters of a season and put up the numbers that he did help him or hurt him?[/quote]

    I have no idea how good Ramirez is defensively, but Longoria was often mentioned as potentially a GG’er. May grant you “as good” only becasue I don’t know. If he’s better, he better be Nellie Fox. As for his 3/4 season, probably helps, most pro-rate stats in order to evaluate, so he only gets better there. Longo’s a lock.[/quote]

    {sarcasm}
    Longo is a bum. He only hit a single his third time up. Only 3 RBI’s in his frist 3 postseason at bats. Time to bench him. {/sarcasm}[/quote]

    My first good look at him was the three game set in Orlando in April. Wow, did he stand out. Look, that’s not a news flash, but he really seems to be one of those once in a generation players.

    As a KC fan, he is what Alex Gordon is expected to be but isn’t.[/quote]

    I actually got to see him in Montgomery with the Biscuits as well ass Upton, Shields, Gomes and plenty others. Worth the 1.5 hour drive from my place.[/quote]

    Yes, Upton was sometimes just that ;-)[/quote]

    Guess that will teach me to proof read.

    [quote comment=”293005″]
    Obviously, he has cast his lot on rotation but he felt at least two weeks ago he was not a big game guy. If you rip your player don’t be suprised if he proves you right, its just a pretty critical situation to prove a point (not that he wanted that).[/quote]
    Well, at the time Guillen took those shots, he never imagined that he’d be in a position where he’d be forced to put Vazquez in as a game 1 starter because his other guys (you know, the ones who can actually pitch) had been going on three days’ rest down the stretch.

    Plus, the man has no filter between his gut and his word hole.

    [quote comment=”293011″][quote]As a KC fan, he is what Alex Gordon is expected to be but isn’t I just want to kill myself.[/quote]

    now fixed[/quote]

    How was your week, last week ;-)

    [quote comment=”293013″][quote comment=”293011″][quote]As a KC fan, he is what Alex Gordon is expected to be but isn’t I just want to kill myself.[/quote]

    now fixed[/quote]

    How was your week, last week ;-)[/quote]

    How you feelin’ now? link

    Just saw some video from the Sox-Rays game. That place looks like a real ballpark when the seats are full. Plus, every park looks better with the bunting.

    ***I don’t know which is more shocking… the fact that the cover of the book shows Busch Stadium II housing football… or that so many people showed up to watch the Football Cardinals*** was gonna say hard to believe football cards were media hot under air coryell and jim hart and roger wehrli and santa rosa’s mel gray in 74-5-6. but, book released in 73. so, nevermind.

    [quote comment=”293014″]How you feelin’ now?[/quote]

    i feel like taking a leisurely walk down a santo domingo street

    [quote comment=”293015″]Just saw some video from the Sox-Rays game. That place looks like a real ballpark when the seats are full. Plus, every park looks better with the bunting.[/quote]

    Yes, I did enjoy Uribe’s sacrifice ;-)

    So you’re not watching? You just missed the best moment of the PS so far!

    [quote comment=”293018″][quote comment=”293015″]Just saw some video from the Sox-Rays game. That place looks like a real ballpark when the seats are full. Plus, every park looks better with the bunting.[/quote]

    Yes, I did enjoy Uribe’s sacrifice ;-)

    So you’re not watching? You just missed the best moment of the PS so far![/quote]
    The sac bunt was definitely a shocker, but the best moment?

    Oh, and it looks like they finally figured out how to contain Longoria.

    Oh and how’s this for your ROY consideration? Better nickname: “Longo” vs. “the Cuban missile”

    Cuz I make my sports decisions like Dwayne on “What’s Happening.”

    [quote comment=”292966″]In link, the cigarette dispenser may be even better than the equipment bags.[/quote]
    Does anyone have a good enough monitor to decipher the “NOTICE concerning gambling . . . ” with Pete Rozelle’s name at the end? That’s all I can get out of it.

    Justin – if you don’t like it here, why not start your own site?

    [quote comment=”293019″][quote comment=”293018″][quote comment=”293015″]Just saw some video from the Sox-Rays game. That place looks like a real ballpark when the seats are full. Plus, every park looks better with the bunting.[/quote]

    Yes, I did enjoy Uribe’s sacrifice ;-)

    So you’re not watching? You just missed the best moment of the PS so far![/quote]
    The sac bunt was definitely a shocker, but the best moment?[/quote]

    You had mentioned how the park looks better with bunting. The sac was my joke.

    Did you see the Cabrera-Balfour AB? That was the moment I was speaking of.

    [quote comment=”293021″][quote comment=”293019″][quote comment=”293018″][quote comment=”293015″]Just saw some video from the Sox-Rays game. That place looks like a real ballpark when the seats are full. Plus, every park looks better with the bunting.[/quote]

    Yes, I did enjoy Uribe’s sacrifice ;-)

    So you’re not watching? You just missed the best moment of the PS so far![/quote]
    The sac bunt was definitely a shocker, but the best moment?[/quote]

    You had mentioned how the park looks better with bunting. The sac was my joke.

    Did you see the Cabrera-Balfour AB? That was the moment I was speaking of.[/quote]
    Yeah, I got the joke. I was trying to return it with a smartass reply about the Sox’ shocking use of smallball.

    And for the record, I’m at work Obviously getting a lot done. So I am not watching. I will be watching the Cubs-Dodgers tonight, though. We’ll see the other prominent Venezuelan in town can get his shit together.

    [quote comment=”293023″]Good God. “…we’ll see IF the other prominent Venezuelan…”[/quote]

    You mean him? link

    What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.

    [quote comment=”293025″]What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.[/quote]

    Cabrera basically challenged Balfour to throw one over the plate. Balfour (who is wound a tight as Mr. Spaulding), gave him one and gassed him. Pretty balzy on both parts.

    [quote comment=”293024″][quote comment=”293023″]Good God. “…we’ll see IF the other prominent Venezuelan…”[/quote]

    You mean him? link

    link that one

    [quote comment=”293026″][quote comment=”293025″]What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.[/quote]

    Cabrera basically challenged Balfour to throw one over the plate. Balfour (who is wound a tight as Mr. Spaulding), gave him one and gassed him. Pretty balzy on both parts.[/quote]
    Nice. Can’t wait to hear what Ozzie has to say about that.

    [quote comment=”293028″][quote comment=”293026″][quote comment=”293025″]What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.[/quote]

    Cabrera basically challenged Balfour to throw one over the plate. Balfour (who is wound a tight as Mr. Spaulding), gave him one and gassed him. Pretty balzy on both parts.[/quote]
    Nice. Can’t wait to hear what Ozzie has to say about that.[/quote]

    Ozzie was pretty funny, he ran out there, not to stop it but it almost looked like he was just trying to get a better seat!

    [quote comment=”293027″][quote comment=”293024″][quote comment=”293023″]Good God. “…we’ll see IF the other prominent Venezuelan…”[/quote]

    You mean him? link

    link that one[/quote]
    Wow. I’ve never noticed it before, but Chavez does bear a bit of a resemblance to the dude I was referring to.

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”293029″][quote comment=”293028″][quote comment=”293026″][quote comment=”293025″]What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.[/quote]

    Cabrera basically challenged Balfour to throw one over the plate. Balfour (who is wound a tight as Mr. Spaulding), gave him one and gassed him. Pretty balzy on both parts.[/quote]
    Nice. Can’t wait to hear what Ozzie has to say about that.[/quote]

    Ozzie was pretty funny, he ran out there, not to stop it but it almost looked like he was just trying to get a better seat![/quote]

    Was this the same play that involved Pierzynski and Aybar? A guy I work with was saying something about that.

    [quote comment=”293030″][quote comment=”293027″][quote comment=”293024″][quote comment=”293023″]Good God. “…we’ll see IF the other prominent Venezuelan…”[/quote]

    You mean him? link

    link that one[/quote]
    Wow. I’ve never noticed it before, but Chavez does bear a bit of a resemblance to the dude I was referring to.

    link

    link

    They don’t just look alike….

    Congratulations, Tampa Bay. I can’t wait for that Cubs-Rays series. Got reservations at the Don Cesar and everything.

    OK, you can stop laughing now.

    I said STOP.

    Fuck you.

    [quote comment=”293031″][quote comment=”293029″][quote comment=”293028″][quote comment=”293026″][quote comment=”293025″]What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.[/quote]

    Cabrera basically challenged Balfour to throw one over the plate. Balfour (who is wound a tight as Mr. Spaulding), gave him one and gassed him. Pretty balzy on both parts.[/quote]
    Nice. Can’t wait to hear what Ozzie has to say about that.[/quote]

    Ozzie was pretty funny, he ran out there, not to stop it but it almost looked like he was just trying to get a better seat![/quote]

    Was this the same play that involved Pierzynski and Aybar? A guy I work with was saying something about that.[/quote]

    No that was last month in Chi. AJ was caught in a run down and stuck out his elbow. He got an obstruction call, even thought MLB later said the call was wrong. Did cost the Rays the game as he scored the tying run in the 9th.

    [quote comment=”293033″]Congratulations, Tampa Bay. I can’t wait for that Cubs-Rays series. Got reservations at the Don Cesar and everything.

    OK, you can stop laughing now.

    I said STOP.

    Fuck you.[/quote]

    Come on down even if the Cubs keep it up, you will enjoy “The Don”!!

    [quote comment=”293034″][quote comment=”293031″][quote comment=”293029″][quote comment=”293028″][quote comment=”293026″][quote comment=”293025″]What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.[/quote]

    Cabrera basically challenged Balfour to throw one over the plate. Balfour (who is wound a tight as Mr. Spaulding), gave him one and gassed him. Pretty balzy on both parts.[/quote]
    Nice. Can’t wait to hear what Ozzie has to say about that.[/quote]

    Ozzie was pretty funny, he ran out there, not to stop it but it almost looked like he was just trying to get a better seat![/quote]

    Was this the same play that involved Pierzynski and Aybar? A guy I work with was saying something about that.[/quote]

    No that was last month in Chi. AJ was caught in a run down and stuck out his elbow. He got an obstruction call, even thought MLB later said the call was wrong. Did cost the Rays the game as he scored the tying run in the 9th.[/quote]

    Check that, he scored the winner in the 10th, Rays should have losed it out in the 9th

    [quote comment=”293026″][quote comment=”293025″]What was the deal with Cabrera and Balfour? I’m at work, so can’t watch the game? Was Cabrera talking smack or something? Wouldn’t surprise me.[/quote]

    Cabrera basically challenged Balfour to throw one over the plate. Balfour (who is wound a tight as Mr. Spaulding), gave him one and gassed him. Pretty balzy on both parts.[/quote]

    Looks like Balfour was screaming before Cabrera. Dude is nuts.

    [quote comment=”293035″]
    Come on down even if the Cubs keep it up, you will enjoy “The Don”!![/quote]
    I’ve actually got a decent story about a trip we took for dinner at the Don on the day Hurricane Jeanne hit four years ago.

    If I could somehow justify its existence in the Uni Watch-verse, I’d write it here. That and it’s long as hell and I don’t feel like typing it out.

    Regarding the “It’s Gonna Happen” thing, Mike Mulligan and Brian Hanley of WSCR in Chicago have a morning sports talk show and were discussing Game 1 of the Cubs-Dodgers series. One of them said he had a great idea for a t-shirt: On the front “It’s Gonna Happen”… on the back: “It Always Does”. Looks like it will again.

    [quote comment=”293041″]what’s the best ballpark for the AL & NLCS?

    trop? fens? CBP? dodger stadium?

    better unis:

    rays, sawks, phils or dodgers[/quote]

    Phils by far. They would be the only merchandise I would consider getting aside from Brewers apparel. Of course I am conflicted for the next few days… but you get the picture.

    [quote comment=”293041″]what’s the best ballpark for the AL & NLCS?

    trop? fens? CBP? dodger stadium?

    better unis:

    rays, sawks, phils or dodgers[/quote]

    Wrigley.

    As far as unis, with the exception of the Brewers (unless they break out the Friday “throwbacks”) & Angels, all the teams involved in the postseason have some damned nice-looking threads.

    I don’t think anyone has addressed Paul’s comment about inflated helmets. Riddell actually introduced their first helmet with inflated padding in either 1968 or 1969. The old HA-9 helmet had both air-inflated pads and cells filled with liquid and weighed a lot more than the suspension helmets of the day. These originals had 6 inflation points – an equipment manager’s nightmare.

    [quote comment=”293044″][quote]Wrigley[/quote]

    perhaps, but i was only including parks for teams in the NL or ALCS ;)[/quote]

    ZING!

    anyone else notice that USF have “accomplishment” Bulls on their helmets? any idea how long they’ve been doing this?

    [quote comment=”293048″]Good God! Is Gwen Ifill wearing a beach towel?[/quote]

    you mean im not the ONLY one watching this? sweet

    [quote comment=”293048″]Good God! Is Gwen Ifill wearing a beach towel?[/quote]
    My wife says ‘throwrug’ and I say ‘bedspread from cheap motel’.

    [quote comment=”292916″][quote comment=”292867″]Cool map showing where NHL franchsies are located.

    link

    Really puts into perspective how close Eastern Conference Teams are. Also noticed that all teams used their primary logo on map. Expect for WAS, used secondary…[/quote]

    Whoever made the map is also geographically deficient. The Dakotas are combined as is Idaho and Montana.[/quote]

    Detroit need to be in the Eastern Confernce. Not only does it make geographic sense but will provide more games with Origional 6 teams.

    [quote comment=”293051″][quote comment=”293048″]Good God! Is Gwen Ifill wearing a beach towel?[/quote]
    My wife says ‘throwrug’ and I say ‘bedspread from cheap motel’.[/quote]

    don’t the dolphins have something like that to wear in cold weather games?

    I didn’t read through all of the comments but I imagine none mentioned the rugby part of the ticker.

    Rugby is one of those sports where teams wear their typical strip unless it clashes with the home team’s look. But Adidas has decided that that’s not lucrative enough, so next year New Zealand’s five Super 14 teams will adopt a home/road jersey program, for no other reason then to sell jerseys.

    I can’t really see how big a money spinner it is for Adidas. When you go to rugby games the number of fans wearing jerseys is very small.

    I feel it’s more of a formalisation of what already happens when teams play other wearing similar colours.

    By the way I don’t think you’ve mentioned the new New Zealand Cricket unis. link

    I don’t even know why I waste my time with the Cubbies. In other news, South Florida’s uniforms are horrible.

    The really sad part about Metallurg Magnitogorsk is that Reebok has gotten to even them. Yesterday they were wearing these duds, and I mean that in a bad way since now they look like they might as well be the Florida Panthers now.

    link

    When they used to wear these beauties.

    link

    Man I hate Reebok and what they’ve done to the sport I love.

    Sorry if this a ‘green dot’ comment but it looked like Derrek Lee was wearing a brown belt. Now I’m trying to see what all the other Cubs are wearing. Anyone?

    [quote comment=”293059″]Sorry if this a ‘green dot’ comment but it looked like Derrek Lee was wearing a brown belt. Now I’m trying to see what all the other Cubs are wearing. Anyone?[/quote]

    It was probably dirt. Or just really prophetic of how they are playing right now.

    [quote comment=”293061″][quote comment=”293055″]I don’t even know why I waste my time with the Cubbies.[/quote]

    link link agrees[/quote]

    Yup. And they should have pulled him a long time ago. Like, say, the second inning. We’re in the sixth and he’s still serving meat loaf to the Dodgers. Sigh. It’s Gonna Happen… Again. Ha-ha.

    [quote comment=”293052″][quote comment=”292916″][quote comment=”292867″]Cool map showing where NHL franchsies are located.

    link

    Really puts into perspective how close Eastern Conference Teams are. Also noticed that all teams used their primary logo on map. Expect for WAS, used secondary…[/quote]

    Whoever made the map is also geographically deficient. The Dakotas are combined as is Idaho and Montana.[/quote]

    Detroit need to be in the Eastern Confernce. Not only does it make geographic sense but will provide more games with Original 6 teams.[/quote]

    Did you perhaps notice that Columbus is further east? Besides, the Original 6 games are a big draw for west teams too. And the East has 4 of the teams, you can’t take one away.

    If anybody ever moves, it’ll be Columbus.

    [quote comment=”293063″][quote comment=”293052″][quote comment=”292916″][quote comment=”292867″]Cool map showing where NHL franchsies are located.

    link

    Really puts into perspective how close Eastern Conference Teams are. Also noticed that all teams used their primary logo on map. Expect for WAS, used secondary…[/quote]

    Whoever made the map is also geographically deficient. The Dakotas are combined as is Idaho and Montana.[/quote]

    Detroit need to be in the Eastern Confernce. Not only does it make geographic sense but will provide more games with Original 6 teams.[/quote]

    Did you perhaps notice that Columbus is further east? Besides, the Original 6 games are a big draw for west teams too. And the East has 4 of the teams, you can’t take one away.

    If anybody ever moves, it’ll be Columbus.[/quote]
    Uh, plus Detroit’s traditional rivals are in the Western Conference as well. Move the Wings to the east and you only get one Hawks-Wings game a year.

    [quote comment=”293062″][quote comment=”293061″][quote comment=”293055″]I don’t even know why I waste my time with the Cubbies.[/quote]

    link link agrees[/quote]

    Yup. And they should have pulled him a long time ago. Like, say, the second inning. We’re in the sixth and he’s still serving meat loaf to the Dodgers. Sigh. It’s Gonna Happen… Again. Ha-ha.[/quote]
    Now that’s just ignorant. He pitched his ass off in the second inning. Sure, he gave up the double to Martin, but what the hell do you expect when your defense gives the opposition 7 outs in an inning?

    Piniella pulled him at the right time.

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