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Monday Morning Uni Watch

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We have a XXXXXL-sized amount of material to cover today, boys and girls, beginning with a follow-up to an item from last Wednesday, when I posted this shot of Dustin Pedroia in the Ticker and noted that it was unusual to see a shin guard being worn so high. Reader Eric Burtis informs me that this same topic came up for discussion during Friday night’s Indians/Royals game, and he’s been kind enough to provide a transcript. We pick up the action with Cleveland’s David Dellucci batting during the top of the 6th:

Frank White: You know, Ryan, when you see a batter with a shin guard on his knee, that tells me that he can’t lay off the fastball inside. If I was a pitcher, I would just [aim] right for his hands inside and see what success I could have in there.

Ryan Lefebvre: It looks like when the game is over, he’s going to go rollerblading.

White: Or lay some carpet with that big pad on his knee. I’ve never seen anything like that.

Lefebvre: And it’s not a big pad. That’s a pretty concentrated area.

White: You know, Billy Butler [of the Royals] wears his about halfway up the leg, and that’s an unusual place to have it, but this is as high as I’ve ever seen.

[Dellucci grounds out, ending the inning. Then, rather conveniently, Billy Butler leads off the bottom of the 6th, allowing the discussion to resume.]

White: We were talking about David Dellucci’s shin guard — this is Billy Butler. He has one… not quite as small. Billy’s actually got a pretty good one on his shin there. That’s almost like the one you wear down on your ankle that fits over the top of your shoelace, that you foul off the top of your ankle.. He’s got a long area of that shin that he probably fouls balls off of.

Lefebvre: Now those guards, you can put anywhere you want on your leg, but the ones you put on your elbows, now you’re supposed to have some sort of a doctor’s note or a note from the athletic trainer after all those guys like Jose Canseco and Mo Vaughn and Frank Thomas and Barry Bonds had those big elbow pads and would just hang out over the plate.

White: Yeah. Pads tell you something. If they’re down around your ankle, that means you foul a lot of balls inside off your ankles and if the ball’s up around your hands, you foul a lot off your knee. And if you have them on your elbow, that means you don’t get out of the way very well.

And that wasn’t the only equipment-related chatter on the airwaves that night. Geoff Poole checked in to let me know that Brewers roving reporter Trenni Kusnierek delivered the following info during Friday’s Brewers/Padres game (during which the Brewers were wearing their usual Friday throwbacks):

CC Sabathia is a huge Air Jordans fan. He’s one of only three players in all of Major League Baseball to have specialized Air Jordan cleats [additional views here and here]. Andruw Jones and Derek Jeter are the only two other players. But here’s the problem: They’re customized to Brewers colors, for CC Sabathia, but they never made retro shoes for CC. So tonight, he’s wearing his old Indians Air Jordans, and [clubhouse assistant] Jason Shawger took a black marker to them, just covered up the red, made ’em into black so they matched the standards for the uniforms. So CC still has his lucky shoes on tonight. They’re just not the cool ones on the Brewers colors.

I’ve gotta say, I don’t understand this report at all. Among the many questions I have:

• The Brewers normally wear black cleats. They also wear black cleats with their Friday throwbacks. So why would Sabathia need a different pair of cleats on Friday than for any other Brewers game?

• But let’s assume for a moment that he does need “retro cleats” for Friday home games. That leads us to the next question: Sabathia pitched on August 8th — a Friday home game — so what did he wear then?

• Here’s a shot of Sabathia from earlier this year with the Indians. I don’t see any red trim that would need to be blacked out, do you?

I also don’t understand the fuss about Air Jordans, but I realize that’s just me.

Incidentally, just prior to this report about Sabathia’s footwear, the two main announcers had just gone into a big spiel about how Sabathia’s such a great guy because he doesn’t demand special “star treatment.” Right — he just makes the clubhouse kid touch up he cleats with a marker. Nice.

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Screw Nike I Mean Reebok: What is the friggin’ deal with Reebok dictating terms to NFL players regarding their uni numbers and NOB? First it was Keith Rivers (who’s being allowed to change uni numbers after all), then Kevin Smith (not allowed), and now it’s Chad Whatshisname. As most of you are probably aware by now, he wore his new name during pregame warm-ups yesterday but had to switch back to his old name for the actual game, because the NFL says he has to settle “a financial obligation to Reebok” first. In other words, Reebok has a bunch of “Johnson” jerseys lying around and wants to be compensated for them (never mind that they’ve just become collector’s items).

I know a lot of people here don’t like Chad. I’m not a big fan myself, but I never got too worked about Archie Leach, Carole Klein, or Charles Buchinsky changing their names to Cary Grant, Carole King, or Charles Bronson, respectively, so I don’t really care what Chad calls himself either. He made it all nice and legal, just like other athletes have done, so why can’t the NFL let him wear his legally sanctioned name? As for the folks at Reebok — who, let’s remember, charge $200-ish for a jersey that costs about $2.85 to manufacture, so they’re not really in a position to plead poverty here — what the hell do they do when a player gets traded or retires? Here’s a guess: They ship his old jerseys to Africa and take a tax write-off. That’s what they should do in this case, too.

Oh, and one other thought for Reebok: Have you considered using one of these? Might solve the whole problem.

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A Boy Named Hsu: Went to last night’s Mets/Phils game with Scott M.X. Turner (who graciously proffered me a ticket). Got snaps of a few interesting sights, including a T-shirt showing the Mets’ TV broadcasters engaged in a terrorist fist bump, two guys wearing Mets-colored socks, a repurposed Glenn Foley jersey, and a kid wearing an absolute train wreck of a cap (it’s hard to see in that first shot, but check out the grooved stitching on the brim). Scott and I also paid our respects to the Tommie Agee home run marker — a particularly poignant moment for me, because there’s a good chance that this was my last visit to Shea, and Agee was my favorite player when I was a tyke.

It was a pretty chippy night in the stands — lots of fights, including one that drew so many security guards that a guy sitting near me quipped, “Look at them all — they’re storming the bastille!” (probably the only time anyone’s ever said that at Shea). We couldn’t understand the source of all the ruckus — after all, NYC and Philly fans adore each other — until the bottom of the 8th, when someone tapped me on the shoulder and asked, “Are you Paul?” I turned and found myself face-to-face with Kenny Hsu, who introduced himself as a regular Uni Watch reader who had recognized me from afar. As you can see, Kenny’s got troublemaker written all over him, and it was surely no coincidence that several more fights soon broke out in the area where he was sitting (I think it might have had something to do with him yelling, “What the fuck is a ‘water ice’? Is it water or is it ice? Make up your goddamn minds, you pussies!” at some Philly fans). I like the idea of Uni Watch readers stirring things up and hereby encourage all readers to shout fighting words offer helpful observations to their fellow fans, in honor of Kenny’s fine example.

Site News: As you may have noticed, and after a ridiculously prolonged series of hassles with Google, our site-search function has finally been restored to the right-hand rail. Enjoy.

Raffle Results: The winner of the soccer raffle is Clint Wrede. Congrats to him, and thanks to all who entered. More raffles coming soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Josh Beckett had some XYZ issues on Friday night. … I can never get enough of this logo (with thanks to Dan Smith). … Last season, the side clips on Eli Manning’s facemask were clear; now they’re gray. Joe Skiba says that’s because they’re now available in team colors. … Best eBay listing ever? Possibly (great find by Ben Traxel). … Nobody can accuse the Olympics of not thinking ahead. … Atlanta Journal-Constitution columnist David O’Brien clearly wants my job (but he’s never gonna get it if he keeps referring to the Rays’ “garish uniforms” of last year — a common misconception, since many people reflexively think of this, which was awful, but conveniently forget about this, which was perfectly fine and badly underrated). … On Friday I checked out this awesome photo exhibit, which included this. … I’m ashamed that this item has to do with Wisconsin, but a high school team out there is putting its players’ combined weightlifting amounts on their helmets, which is about the most pathetic “We’re so fucking macho” thing I’ve ever seen. Why not just put their dick lengths on the helmet and get it over with? Depressing details here (with thanks to David Petroff). … Speaking of which, there’s an interesting article on high school helmets here (with thanks to James Spears). … Also from James: If you scroll down to the bottom of this image gallery, you’ll see several shots that show two h.s. teams both wearing colored jerseys. “Never seen that done around here,” he says. “I’m trying to find out an explanation.” … The new UAB uniforms are viewable here. … Has anyone tallied up all the different graphics and ads the Brewers have stenciled into the Miller Park mound this year? They normally have their cap logo there, plus they’ve also used the star-spangled cap logo, a Negro Leagues logo, an ad for their web site, and I just realized that they put the ball-in-glove logo for their retro Friday games. Embarrassing. … More Russian nesting dolls (additional views here and here). “My dad got them in Russia while on business recently,” says Dan Mugg. “Apparently they have just about every team. One of my dad’s co-workers picked up a Purdue set.” … A little late, but Kris Naudus notes that the Korean women’s Olympic archery team had some cool outfits and gear. “That’s Yun Ok-Hee on the left with her panda chest guard and matching pink bo), Joo Hyun-Jung in the middle (nothing special there, though her hat seems to have a pink ribbon on it), and Park Sung-Hyun with the Winnie the Pooh-themed chest guard,” she writes. … Another day, another intersection of Sarah Palin and uniforms. … Reprinted from Saturday’s comments: Bit of a logo screw-up during one of Saturday’s broadcasts. … Those Illinois throwbacks looked my-t-fine. … But Virginia’s struck me as rather unremarkable. … This jersey is one of the many Minnesota hockey sweaters on display at the Xcel Center. Ken Whitehouse wants to know what team (or school, or whatever) it is. Anyone..? … Piqua High School in Ohio gives out award decals and places them down the center of the helmet. … When a team scores a touchdown, you don’t see the entire team giving the two-arms-raised TD signal. But when a team scores a safety, the entire defense always — always does this. … Patch-o-rama in the NFL now, as you can see here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. Oops, sorry, those last two photos were of NFL Europe, but it’s getting hard to tell the difference. Fortunately, the Steelers have apparently decided not to wear captaincy patches, or else they’d be in the three-patch zone as well. … Speaking of patches, I didn’t realize the Colts were gonna wear that new stadium patch. Gee, think it’s big enough? If anyone has a good close-up of it, I could use one. … And just in case the Gene Upshaw patch wasn’t visible enough on the players’ jerseys or on the field, Lovie Smith wore it on his shirt’s zipper pull. … Nick Trotta informs me that Charlie Samuels had the honor of pulling down the “16 Games Left at Shea” sign on Friday night. Hard to imagine another MLB equipment manager getting to do that (or to imagine one less deserving of the honor). … Boy do I miss this NBC logo. … According to this discussion thread, a newspaper photographer at a recent college football game was wearing the visiting team’s jersey while shooting the game.

 

266 comments to Monday Morning Uni Watch

  • Dane | September 8, 2008 at 8:52 am |

    Reebok cries that they are stuck with all those C. Johnson jerseys, but yet they are more than willing to print two sets of Super Bowl champion hats & shirts, knowing that one set will never be sold. Hey Reebok, I think you know where to find some kids who would like a Bengals jersey to wear with their “Patriots 19-0” t-shirt.

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    (laughing) See now, this is the image that comes to mind for some of us when we see black socks in football or basketball.

    We can’t help ourselves, it’s a horrible memory, that’s all.

    http://www.icp.org/a...

    —Ricko

  • Sam A. | September 8, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    I apologize if you already mentioned this – Wake Forest changed their number font on their jerseys from last season. They are still using the old font on their helmet numbers in the rear. It’s very easy to spot with the ‘1’ – find a pic of Riley Skinner (number 11) last season and this season.

  • Jason Gomez | September 8, 2008 at 8:56 am |

    Two things…in the CC Sabathia pic when he was with the Indians, he is wearing Nike Huarche 2K5s. Also, last night during the Colts/Bears game there was a shot of the Colts bench or maybe it was the Bears, but there was a NFL hat with a Puma logo on it. I thought that was strange since Puma hasnt had uniforms since the late 90s early 2000s.

    Oh one more thing….the Kansas City Chiefs dont wear those Captain patches either, they didnt last year and thank god they dont this year.

  • shadoquad | September 8, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white. It was a nifty visual change, although it didn’t look great, mostly because the black pants + black-top socks made for a leotard effect, much like when they wear all-black. And with a white top, it looked like a t-shirt and sweatpants pick-up team, especially Matt Stover, who rolled his sleeves up.

    Maybe it’s already been scooped, but my fam were quite entertained by it.

  • Billy | September 8, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    I’m pretty sure the hockey jersey hanging in the X is the Cloquet Lumberjacks. Corey Millen, who played for the Rangers, went to that school.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    [quote comment=”288364″]A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white.[/quote]

    what position do you play?

  • DrBear | September 8, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    Not only all of the Brewers logos you mentioned above, but Saturday, they had a “C” on the back of the mound as they wore their Cerveceros jerseys (for those who don’t know, that’s “Brewers” in Spanish)

  • Brendan | September 8, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    Last night I was watching highlights from the 1964 Southwest Conference football season and the officials were wearing what appeared to be cardigan sweaters. I haven’t been able to find pictures anywhere but does anyone know how long this lasted? and was this the normal uniform?

  • steve | September 8, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    Notice the old NFL logo on the NFL picture website?

  • shadoquad | September 8, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment=”288366″][quote comment=”288364″]A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white.[/quote]

    what position do you play?[/quote]

    Couch Linebacker, smart guy. Gimme a break, I’m caught up in some excitement. I’m a fan, and fans tend to speak of their team in the collective first person on occasion. Snippy, snippy.

  • Rob Ullman | September 8, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    They showed a close-up of Manning tossing the ball around in warmups during the NBC pregame show, and even my wife noticed how cluttered and shitty looking the Colts jerseys were last night. Just awful…that captain’s patch nonsense has to go. Kudos to the Steelers for not using it.

  • Wes | September 8, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”288365″]I’m pretty sure the hockey jersey hanging in the X is the Cloquet Lumberjacks. Corey Millen, who played for the Rangers, went to that school.[/quote]

    Yep, that’s right. Confirmed by this website…

    http://www.vintagemi...

  • Duckstyle | September 8, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”288366″][quote comment=”288364″]A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white.[/quote]

    what position do you play?[/quote]

    Good work.

  • Timmay | September 8, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    anyone else have a problem with the link to the UAB photos? it’s a dead page to me

  • […] Original Paul Lukas […]

  • Frank from B-more | September 8, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    I liked the Ravens look too, which came as a shock to me and my son as they cleared the tunnel yesterday at M&T. I can’t stand the All-Black leotard look, but with the white jersey it worked. Wonder if they are going to wear the black jersey with white pants or purple with black this year?
    BTW I can them we too, something about being a fan.

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    I haven’t been able to get an up-close view of tha Colts patch, but I’m wondering if they are also celebrating their 25th season in Indy on the same patch.

  • Cornellian | September 8, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    These captaincy patches have me a little confused. Maybe my memory isn’t so hot here. I recall last year, the 4 stars were all white. Then in the playoffs suddenly the first one was gold. I presumed that was to signify having completed one year as captain, though the timing was kinda odd. Then this season two-year captains have STARTED the season with two yellow stars.
    The patches are an ugly distraction but it seems to me like they keep changing the rules on them. And if they are going to signify years as captain why only count those years 2007 and later? And what happens in year five?
    Perhaps I’ve given this too much thought…

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”288376″]I liked the Ravens look too, which came as a shock to me and my son as they cleared the tunnel yesterday at M&T. I can’t stand the All-Black leotard look, but with the white jersey it worked. Wonder if they are going to wear the black jersey with white pants or purple with black this year?
    BTW I can them we too, something about being a fan.[/quote]

    Anyone think they should put a stripe down the side of those pants to break up the unitard look……?

    Also, as abhorrent as some of the folks here consider them, the white pants worn by the Rams looked really sharp. And that navy/gold/navy stripe was a nice touch.

  • shadoquad | September 8, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”288379″][quote comment=”288376″]I liked the Ravens look too, which came as a shock to me and my son as they cleared the tunnel yesterday at M&T. I can’t stand the All-Black leotard look, but with the white jersey it worked. Wonder if they are going to wear the black jersey with white pants or purple with black this year?
    BTW I can them we too, something about being a fan.[/quote]

    Anyone think they should put a stripe down the side of those pants to break up the unitard look……?

    Also, as abhorrent as some of the folks here consider them, the white pants worn by the Rams looked really sharp. And that navy/gold/navy stripe was a nice touch.[/quote]

    A stripe could have done it, or high white socks, maybe with some stripes to break up solid white.

  • shadoquad | September 8, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”288376″]I liked the Ravens look too, which came as a shock to me and my son as they cleared the tunnel yesterday at M&T. I can’t stand the All-Black leotard look, but with the white jersey it worked. Wonder if they are going to wear the black jersey with white pants or purple with black this year?
    BTW I can them we too, something about being a fan.[/quote]

    I was wondering the same about our dark uni combinations. It’ll be interesting, that’s for sure!

  • Joe Hilseberg | September 8, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”288364″]A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white. It was a nifty visual change, although it didn’t look great, mostly because the black pants + black-top socks made for a leotard effect, much like when they wear all-black. And with a white top, it looked like a t-shirt and sweatpants pick-up team, especially Matt Stover, who rolled his sleeves up.

    Maybe it’s already been scooped, but my fam were quite entertained by it.[/quote]

    Reminded me of the early years!

    http://www.ssur.org/...

    The pants could use a stripe.

  • Mark MihaIik | September 8, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    [quote]• The Brewers normally wear black cleats. They also wear black cleats with their Friday throwbacks. So why would Sabathia need a different pair of cleats on Friday than for any other Brewers game?[/quote]

    Sabathia’s standard Jordan Fusion 5 PE’s are black and gold (and by gold, I mean bronze-ish rather than yellow). You can see them here:

    http://i34.tinypic.c...

    I’m guessing that they felt that the gold accents on those would clash with the throwbacks, so that’s why they went back to his Cleveland PE’s.

    [quote]• But let’s assume for a moment that he does need “retro cleats” for Friday home games. That leads us to the next question: Sabathia pitched on August 8th — a Friday home game — so what did he wear then?[/quote]

    He wore standard Nike 5-Tool II’s, not his Jordan cleats. You can see those here:

    http://i33.tinypic.c...

    [quote]• Here’s a shot of Sabathia from earlier this year with the Indians. I don’t see any red trim that would need to be blacked out, do you? [/quote]

    The shot in that reference was not the Jordan model… those are the Nike Huarache 2K5’s. To the best of my knowledge, he never even wore his Jordans in Cleveland… the first time I ever saw him wearing them was on August 2nd with the Brewers, and he wore his Indians colorway then too. The red outsole accents were visible on that day, but you have to look closely on this shot:

    http://i33.tinypic.c...

    His black and gold Brewers colorway first surfaced on August 19th.

  • Frank from B-more | September 8, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    Purple stripe would give it a more finished look and might help me appreciate the All Blck look more. Still, I think you stay with this uni combo (superstitious)

  • BuckeyeMark | September 8, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    am sure that Reebok has plenty of cash, but has anyone thought that Reebok and Mr. Johnson may have a signed contractual agreement in which Mr. Johnson gets PAID for wearing 86 with his NOB? I’m guessing Reebok does this to protect themselves from players arbitrarily changing their number all the time, leaving them stuck with “old” jerseys. probably never happened with a name before but the same principle applies. Mr. Johnson gave his word he would wear that jersey AND WAS COMPENSATED FOR IT (handsomely, I’m sure). instead of criticizing Reebok maybe we ought to say something about the need for people to keep their word and fulfill their contracts. I don’t think the company is the bad guy here – they are just asking Mr. Johnson to do as he said and do what they paid him for. how is that a bad thing?

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    It was probably mentioned yesterday, but it was odd seeing the Pats wearing white at home. And since Brady’s knee got busted up yesterday, it will probably be the last time they wear white at home.

    That had to be the most teams wearing white at home not only on opening day but on any weekend in the NFL, no? Baltimore, Miami, New England, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Cleveland, and San Diego all wore white at home.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”288384″]Purple stripe would give it a more finished look and might help me appreciate the All Blck look more. Still, I think you stay with this uni combo (superstitious)[/quote]

    Plain purple stripe? Wouldn’t that almost blend into the black? I thought they had it right on the old uniform: Black pants, white – purple – white stripe.

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”288383″][quote]• The Brewers normally wear black cleats. They also wear black cleats with their Friday throwbacks. So why would Sabathia need a different pair of cleats on Friday than for any other Brewers game?[/quote]

    Sabathia’s standard Jordan Fusion 5 PE’s are black and gold (and by gold, I mean bronze-ish rather than yellow). You can see them here:

    http://i34.tinypic.c...

    I’m guessing that they felt that the gold accents on those would clash with the throwbacks, so that’s why they went back to his Cleveland PE’s.

    [quote]• But let’s assume for a moment that he does need “retro cleats” for Friday home games. That leads us to the next question: Sabathia pitched on August 8th — a Friday home game — so what did he wear then?[/quote]

    He wore standard Nike 5-Tool II’s, not his Jordan cleats. You can see those here:

    http://i33.tinypic.c...

    [quote]• Here’s a shot of Sabathia from earlier this year with the Indians. I don’t see any red trim that would need to be blacked out, do you? [/quote]

    The shot in that reference was not the Jordan model… those are the Nike Huarache 2K5’s. To the best of my knowledge, he never even wore his Jordans in Cleveland… the first time I ever saw him wearing them was on August 2nd with the Brewers, and he wore his Indians colorway then too. The red outsole accents were visible on that day, but you have to look closely on this shot:

    http://i33.tinypic.c...

    His black and gold Brewers colorway first surfaced on August 19th.[/quote]

    If anyone was going to beat me to this, it would have had to have been Mark! Good job, as always!

    As for only three players wearing customized Jordan cleats; Last year, Ryan Zimmerman of the nationals wore a pair for a bit!

  • Mark K | September 8, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    It looked like Seattle’s Matt Hasselbeck changed his jersey in the second half of yesterday’s game- the second jersey was without the sleeve stripes.

  • interlockingtc | September 8, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    “Bill Wood’s Business”…delicious

    The Tommy Agee painted on concrete home run marker:…makes me sad–it can’t be preserved, can it?

    I wonder if that MN hockey jersey is from Bemidji –the Lumberjacks?

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”288385″]but has anyone thought that Reebok and Mr. Johnson may have a signed contractual agreement in which Mr. Johnson gets PAID for wearing 86 with his NOB?[/quote]

    I should hope not, because then the name-switch to Ocho Cinco makes absolutely no sense.

    Just kidding of course. I asked that same question the other day and I guess people were more interested ion discussing hockey instead, so now that today is Monday after football Sunday, maybe someone has the answer to that question: Is there something in the players’ contracts that addresses possible name and number changes……?

  • Mark K | September 8, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”288385″]am sure that Reebok has plenty of cash, but has anyone thought that Reebok and Mr. Johnson may have a signed contractual agreement in which Mr. Johnson gets PAID for wearing 86 with his NOB? I’m guessing Reebok does this to protect themselves from players arbitrarily changing their number all the time, leaving them stuck with “old” jerseys. probably never happened with a name before but the same principle applies. Mr. Johnson gave his word he would wear that jersey AND WAS COMPENSATED FOR IT (handsomely, I’m sure). instead of criticizing Reebok maybe we ought to say something about the need for people to keep their word and fulfill their contracts. I don’t think the company is the bad guy here – they are just asking Mr. Johnson to do as he said and do what they paid him for. how is that a bad thing?[/quote]

    Get it right- it’s Mr. Ocho Cinco.

  • interlockingtc | September 8, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”288372″][quote comment=”288365″]I’m pretty sure the hockey jersey hanging in the X is the Cloquet Lumberjacks. Corey Millen, who played for the Rangers, went to that school.[/quote]

    Yep, that’s right. Confirmed by this website…

    http://www.vintagemi...
    Whoops. Wes got it.

  • Scott | September 8, 2008 at 9:57 am |

    Is anyone else just absolutely SICK of seeing the pajama bottom baseball pants?! Maybe it’s the length of the season … that when college football starts, baseball becomes irrelevant. But, the fact is, that “trend” of really long, draped over the shoe pants (i.e., Sabathia) has got to go. What’s strange, the NFL is like the uniform gestapo … but lets the patch-a-rama happen. And on the opposite end of the spectrum is baseball, which is laissez faire and let’s players wear sweatpants for a uniform.

  • Soda | September 8, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    I can double confirm that the Minnesota HS jersey belongs to the Cloquet-Esko-Carlton lumberjacks. They were in my school’s conference, one of our big hockey rivals.

    Even with my clouded judgment I can say they sport a damn fine sweater, even if it is purple. They do have the same logo on the white though…

    http://www.hhof.com/...

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”288396″]Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.[/quote]

    Perhaps for warmups, but absolutely not for the game itself…Ineligible receiver issues and such!

    I’m sure that I just missed your sarcasm tags, Stuby!!!

    Or I wanted to be a know-it-all…probably mor of the latter.

  • doug | September 8, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    i think paul was unfair to those virginia retro uniforms – they deserve kudos for getting everything (ignoring fit, etc.) exactly right. they didn’t pull a virginia tech and do a mix-and-match of past unis, and they didn’t succumb to brand-awareness pressure and slap a “V” or “virginia” on the helmet. the teams they were worn in honor of (1984-1993) wore those uniforms – the weird two-stripe helmet, the “V” on the sleeves that is different from the “block v” that virginia used in those days, and everything else. at least UVa’s athletic department managed to get one thing right this year. hell, i’d bring a sign to celebrate, but i can’t…

  • jjm | September 8, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    Herm Edwards also had the GU button. He wore his on the collar of his shirt. I thought it was much more tasteful than the monstrosity of a patch the teams are forced to wear.

  • Frank from B-more | September 8, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”288387″][quote comment=”288384″]Purple stripe would give it a more finished look and might help me appreciate the All Blck look more. Still, I think you stay with this uni combo (superstitious)[/quote]

    Plain purple stripe? Wouldn’t that almost blend into the black? I thought they had it right on the old uniform: Black pants, white – purple – white stripe.[/quote]
    Yeah that might be a better option. Just trying to keep the symetry with the single purple band on the jersey.

  • Joe Hilseberg | September 8, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    I can never get enough of this logo

    Here are a couple more for you Paul!

    http://www.flickr.co...

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Duckstyle | September 8, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”288394″]Is anyone else just absolutely SICK of seeing the pajama bottom baseball pants?! Maybe it’s the length of the season … that when college football starts, baseball becomes irrelevant. But, the fact is, that “trend” of really long, draped over the shoe pants (i.e., Sabathia) has got to go. What’s strange, the NFL is like the uniform gestapo … but lets the patch-a-rama happen. And on the opposite end of the spectrum is baseball, which is laissez faire and let’s players wear sweatpants for a uniform.[/quote]

    College footbal make baseball irrelevent?? I’m guessing you’re from the South.

  • Saru | September 8, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    Sorry for not being uniform-related, but are fights at sporting events that common in the Northeast? Growing up in Seattle I think I recall one brief fight in all the games (mostly baseball and basketball) I went to. Even in Argentina they mostly kept the crazies away from each other during the game–afterward was, of course, another matter.

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”288397″][quote comment=”288396″]Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.[/quote]

    Perhaps for warmups, but absolutely not for the game itself…Ineligible receiver issues and such!

    I’m sure that I just missed your sarcasm tags, Stuby!!!

    Or I wanted to be a know-it-all…probably mor of the latter.[/quote]
    No problem, Matt. I was actually thinking about just for warmups as I was writing it. But I’ll bet someone on the O-Line assumes #63 for the game since there isn’t a 63 currently on the Raiders roster.

  • Flip | September 8, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    Illinois could do a lot worse than those throwbacks.
    http://fightingillin...
    Oh, wait, they have.http://media.college...

  • Justin in AR | September 8, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    I hate when teams do this:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    The whole thing just looks silly.
    Oh, and I’m from the south and I don’t think college football makes baseball irrelevant…

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”288403″]Sorry for not being uniform-related, but are fights at sporting events that common in the Northeast? Growing up in Seattle I think I recall one brief fight in all the games (mostly baseball and basketball) I went to. Even in Argentina they mostly kept the crazies away from each other during the game–afterward was, of course, another matter.[/quote]
    They happened all the time at Giants games at the Stick. Even more so when the Dodgers were in town. I do believe the fighting has all but ceased at the new park – people are too busy eating their clam chowder out of sourdough bread bowls.

  • Johnny O | September 8, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”288367″]Not only all of the Brewers logos you mentioned above, but Saturday, they had a “C” on the back of the mound as they wore their Cerveceros jerseys (for those who don’t know, that’s “Brewers” in Spanish)[/quote]

    I was at this game on Saturday, and noticed this as well. I couldn’t get close enough for a picture though. But as pointed out, instead of the normal “M” on the back of the mound it was the same “C” as in the Cerveceros script.

    http://assets.espn.g...

    So let’s see, we have :

    1) Standard cap logo
    2) Retro ball-in-glove logo
    3) Brewers.com logo
    4) Stars ‘n’ Stripes “M” logo
    5) Negro league tribute “M”
    6) Cerveceros “C”

    Am i forgetting any?

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”288404″][quote comment=”288397″][quote comment=”288396″]Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.[/quote]

    Perhaps for warmups, but absolutely not for the game itself…Ineligible receiver issues and such!

    I’m sure that I just missed your sarcasm tags, Stuby!!!

    Or I wanted to be a know-it-all…probably mor of the latter.[/quote]
    No problem, Matt. I was actually thinking about just for warmups as I was writing it. But I’ll bet someone on the O-Line assumes #63 for the game since there isn’t a 63 currently on the Raiders roster.[/quote]

    Without a doubt, I can foresee that happening!

    Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

    http://fightingillin...
    http://farm3.static....

  • RJ | September 8, 2008 at 10:37 am |

    What’s with the striping on the Red Wings jersey that Palin’s holding? That’s not normal striping but it appears to be NHL issue by the tags…

  • Hank | September 8, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    WI high school weight lifting decals: Wonder if Coach Plueger’s role model is Mr. Woodcock?

  • James | September 8, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    We have a XXXXXL-sized amount of material to cover today, boys and girls, beginning with a follow-up to an item from last Wednesday, when I posted this shot of Dustin Pedroia in the Ticker and noted that it was unusual to see a shin guard being worn so high. Reader Eric Burtis informs me that this same topic came up for discussion during Friday night’s Indians/Royals game, and he’s been kind enough to provide a transcript.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”288409″]Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

    http://fightingillin...
    http://farm3.static....

    well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

    yeah…identical ;)

    (but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)

  • josh's twin | September 8, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.

  • Glen | September 8, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    http://www.icp.org/a...

    Hahahahahaha, i love the boxers showing under the shorts!

  • JK | September 8, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”288364″]A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white. It was a nifty visual change, although it didn’t look great, mostly because the black pants + black-top socks made for a leotard effect, much like when they wear all-black. And with a white top, it looked like a t-shirt and sweatpants pick-up team, especially Matt Stover, who rolled his sleeves up.

    Maybe it’s already been scooped, but my fam were quite entertained by it.[/quote]

    I actually liked it very much. It reminded me a lot of when the Jags do the white with the all black pants. And hey, if you can take some details and some purple out of the Ravens uni I am all about that.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote]Why not just put their dick lengths on the helmet and get it over with? [/quote]

    no

  • Hank | September 8, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=\”288386\”]It was probably mentioned yesterday, but it was odd seeing the Pats wearing white at home. And since Brady\’s knee got busted up yesterday, it will probably be the last time they wear white at home.

    That had to be the most teams wearing white at home not only on opening day but on any weekend in the NFL, no? Baltimore, Miami, New England, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Cleveland, and San Diego all wore white at home.[/quote]

    I believe the Eagles wear the white tops at home up until mid-October. Then they go exclusively (midnight)green. Read where it is a heat-related thing: white when the temps are still pretty warm, dark when it gets colder.

  • Hank | September 8, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    Is the Gene Upshaw memorials heading into Sean Taylor territory?

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”288414″]Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.[/quote]

    Eh, I always liked the blue pants. It’s a classy and classic look. But I agree about the socks. They should go with their navy blue “sleeve striping” socks when they go with the all-white look.

  • DenverGregg | September 8, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”288396″]Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.[/quote]
    Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”288418″]I believe the Eagles wear the white tops at home up until mid-October. Then they go exclusively (midnight)green. Read where it is a heat-related thing: white when the temps are still pretty warm, dark when it gets colder.[/quote]

    I actually like when the Eagles go all-white at home. Is there any rhyme or reason to going all-white as opposed to white tops and midnight green pants……?

  • Joe Drennan | September 8, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    That MN high school jersey is of the Cloquet Lumberjacks, a team I coached against in section play, as has been noted. What you don’t see in the picture is the stictching on the beard is done in a way so the beard appears to be furry. Those jerseys haven’t changed in years and I hope they never do because they’re so classic. They have a pretty nice barn they play in too. The Langembruner boys came from there too.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”288421″]Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Man, if there’s anything that provides reason for mourning in Beantown, it was seeing Brady a crumpled heap on the ground, holding his knee.

    Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.

  • Jim MI | September 8, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”288410″]What’s with the striping on the Red Wings jersey that Palin’s holding? That’s not normal striping but it appears to be NHL issue by the tags…[/quote]

    First thing I noticed too is that the striping was off. Amazing on what errors people either overlook or not catch when giving out jerseys.

    http://cmsimg.detnew...

    http://shop.nhl.com/...

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”288413″][quote comment=”288409″]Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

    http://fightingillin...
    http://farm3.static....

    well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

    yeah…identical ;)

    (but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)[/quote]

    I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

    Doh!

  • Jim MI | September 8, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    Ok, I’m sorry, but are women incapable of wearing a regular colored jerseys? Does their skin melt off or something? First pink jerseys, now this crap?

    http://shop.nhl.com/...

    Silver with the city name on sleeve? Good God.

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”288424″][quote comment=”288421″]Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Man, if there’s anything that provides reason for mourning in Beantown, it was seeing Brady a crumpled heap on the ground, holding his knee.

    Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.[/quote]

    Much like Yoko Romo, it seems that Giselle has got Patriots fans skivvies in a Bundchen!

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”288420″][quote comment=”288414″]Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.[/quote]

    Eh, I always liked the blue pants. It’s a classy and classic look.

    But I agree about the socks. They should go with their navy blue “sleeve striping” socks when they go with the all-white look.[/quote]
    Never did like the blue pants. The white/white is more classic for the Bears. I agree on the sock thing – gotta be blue.

    Sayers:
    http://a1259.g.akama...
    Payton:
    http://lhs.lidgerwoo...
    Butkus:
    http://www.finalshot...

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”288426″][quote comment=”288413″][quote comment=”288409″]Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

    http://fightingillin...
    http://farm3.static....

    well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

    yeah…identical ;)

    (but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)[/quote]

    I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

    Doh![/quote]

    http://cache.daylife...

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”288429″]Never did like the blue pants. The white/white is more classic for the Bears. I agree on the sock thing – gotta be blue.

    Sayers:
    http://a1259.g.akama...
    Payton:
    http://lhs.lidgerwoo...
    Butkus:
    http://www.finalshot...

    I didn’t mean to imply that the white tops/blue pants was a classic look; more that it just seems right. You take a look at it and it doesn’t seem like it doesn’t belong. On the other hand, I look at the Jets, and when they wear their white tops with green pants (and nice striped socks), it just doesn’t look right to me.

    Then again, it could be because for as long as I can remember, the Bears have been wearing the blue pants, so it just looks “normal” to me. I’m sure a die-hard Bears fan would probably disagree.

  • Joe Drennan | September 8, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”288414″]Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.[/quote]
    I agree with Paul about the monocrhrome color deal, but the Bears all white on the road just seems to work and I’m glad they are getting back to it.

    What do you think Paul, is this one of those exceptions to the rule?

  • Hank | September 8, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”288422″][quote comment=”288418″]I believe the Eagles wear the white tops at home up until mid-October. Then they go exclusively (midnight)green. Read where it is a heat-related thing: white when the temps are still pretty warm, dark when it gets colder.[/quote]

    I actually like when the Eagles go all-white at home. Is there any rhyme or reason to going all-white as opposed to white tops and midnight green pants……?[/quote]

    I think it depends on the mood of Mrs. Lurie.
    So long as they don’t do the disturbingly all-green look like they did a couple of years ago. Yeesh.

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”288430″][quote comment=”288426″][quote comment=”288413″][quote comment=”288409″]Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

    http://fightingillin...
    http://farm3.static....

    well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

    yeah…identical ;)

    (but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)[/quote]

    I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

    Doh![/quote]

    http://cache.daylife...

    Same helmet number font as the Illini?
    http://i.cdn.turner....

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”288413″][quote comment=”288409″]Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

    http://fightingillin...
    http://farm3.static....

    well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

    yeah…identical ;)

    (but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)[/quote]

    Actually, I thought they looked like Illinois in the era of (or shortly after) Butkus, Grabowski, et al.

    In the 50s to mid-60s when Illinois wore the old gold(“orange”) pants at home, yes, there was some similarity to Syracuse, especially before Illinois added the white stipes to the helmet. However, Syracuse was one of the few teams that wore white at home, so their navy set sometimes would go an entire season without being seen. And Illinois went to white pants on the road by the early 60s, which means there really weren’t many times when the teams looked much alike.

    In short, Syracuse almost always wore…
    Orange-White-Orange, which Illinois rarely did. And Illinois wore…
    Orange-Navy-Orange (home), which Syracuse rarely did, or…
    Orange-White-White (road), which Syracuse NEVER did.

    Got that? lol

    (Illinois was one of the first college teams I remember whose road unis were so markedly different. Stripeless jerseys and pants at home. Change to white pants with tri-color stripes for road, add four thin navy stripes to sleeves.)

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”288434″][quote comment=”288430″][quote comment=”288426″][quote comment=”288413″][quote comment=”288409″]Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

    http://fightingillin...
    http://farm3.static....

    well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

    yeah…identical ;)

    (but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)[/quote]

    I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

    Doh![/quote]

    http://cache.daylife...

    Same helmet number font as the Illini?
    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Lst one, sorry…What is the patch on the Illini jerseys signify?

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”288432″][quote comment=”288414″]Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.[/quote]
    I agree with Paul about the monocrhrome color deal, but the Bears all white on the road just seems to work and I’m glad they are getting back to it.

    What do you think Paul, is this one of those exceptions to the rule?[/quote]

    I always thought the monochrome look was more in reference to the current shift towards stuff like Broncos blue/blue, Bills blue/blue, Jets green/green, Rams blue/blue, Ravens black/black, etc. There certainly are enough people on here who love looks like the Bears white/white, the Dolphins white/white, the Jags white/white, etc….

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”288433″]I think it depends on the mood of Mrs. Lurie.
    So long as they don’t do the disturbingly all-green look like they did a couple of years ago. Yeesh.[/quote]

    What about black tops with midnight-green pants……?

  • Andrew | September 8, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    What kind of red wings jersey is that palin was given? looks nothing like what the team wears.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”288422″][quote comment=”288418″]I believe the Eagles wear the white tops at home up until mid-October. Then they go exclusively (midnight)green. Read where it is a heat-related thing: white when the temps are still pretty warm, dark when it gets colder.[/quote]

    I actually like when the Eagles go all-white at home. Is there any rhyme or reason to going all-white as opposed to white tops and midnight green pants……?[/quote]

    i for one like the all-white look…although both this and this work well…that ‘midnight green’ (i think that’s what it’s called) is a great color

    however…

    black on green, the black on white and the all green monochrome should never see the light of day (or night) again

  • Duckstyle | September 8, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    Teh BEars definitly look better in all white than withe the blue pants, the blue pants look weird under the lights. That being said:

    Brandon Llyod had baggie sleeves last night, he’s a WR! http://sports.yahoo....

    And if you’re wearing all white, don’t let that extend to your footwear, Kyle Orton had on some shoes that looked more white than black. http://sports.yahoo....

  • Jeff P | September 8, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”288425″][quote comment=”288410″]What’s with the striping on the Red Wings jersey that Palin’s holding? That’s not normal striping but it appears to be NHL issue by the tags…[/quote]

    First thing I noticed too is that the striping was off. Amazing on what errors people either overlook or not catch when giving out jerseys.

    Tags can be faked. She got a knockoff. I looked at the NHL store and all the women’s and kids jerseys are correct in terms of design. Sometimes they’re slightly off, but not in this case.

    But she supports free trade agreements right? That’s what makes this shit possible…

    http://cmsimg.detnew...

    http://shop.nhl.com/...

  • Cosmo | September 8, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”288363″]Oh one more thing….the Kansas City Chiefs dont wear those Captain patches either, they didnt last year and thank god they dont this year.[/quote]

    Why would you want to captain a sinking ship?

    I’m a die hard Chiefs fan, but that was just too easy.

  • Duckstyle | September 8, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”288436″][quote comment=”288434″][quote comment=”288430″][quote comment=”288426″][quote comment=”288413″][quote comment=”288409″]Does anyone else think that the Illini looked alot like the Orange this past Saturday?

    http://fightingillin...
    http://farm3.static....

    well…except for the shoulder stripes on one jersey, the pants being different colors, one helmet having no numbers but a logo, one helmet had three stripes (white-blue-white) versus one solid blue stripe…

    yeah…identical ;)

    (but yes, matt…that was the first team i thought of and even googled for images to see just how close they were)[/quote]

    I am not even going to dignify that snarky response with a Dammit Phil!

    Doh![/quote]

    http://cache.daylife...

    Same helmet number font as the Illini?
    http://i.cdn.turner....

    Lst one, sorry…What is the patch on the Illini jerseys signify?[/quote]

    They just finished a huge renovation to Memorial Stadium. That’s why they brought in old players, and wore the old unis. A look back at history I guess.

  • brian | September 8, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    anyone notice that jason witten’s nameplate was way off center in yesterday’s cowboys game?

  • Cosmo | September 8, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    Can someone explain the point of the Colt’s new stadium patches? Are the people watching the game or the players on the other team not aware that they’re in a new stadium? What purpose does that patch serve?

  • holycalamity | September 8, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    You know, the shoulder and neck area on NFL jerseys is cluttered enough already with the big “GU” patch, the NFL shield, and on some players, the captain’s “C”. Now they have to find a place to place a Tom Brady patch.

  • Hank | September 8, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”288438″][quote comment=”288433″]I think it depends on the mood of Mrs. Lurie.
    So long as they don’t do the disturbingly all-green look like they did a couple of years ago. Yeesh.[/quote]

    What about black tops with midnight-green pants……?[/quote]

    Not a fan of the black jersey.

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”288420″][quote comment=”288414″]Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.[/quote]

    Eh, I always liked the blue pants. It’s a classy and classic look.

    But I agree about the socks. They should go with their navy blue “sleeve striping” socks when they go with the all-white look.[/quote]

    “Classic look” depends on your point of reference. Yeah, the blue pants go as far back as the title game when they schneidered the Redskins. But they then went away for a long, long time and, from the end of WWII through the TV explosion (white socks for those years) and many seasons after, the Bears wore only white pants.

    So again, “classic” depends our individual definitions of what was a “classic” era.

    All-white with white socks: 50s
    With navy socks: 60, 70s and very early 80s.

    I think the solution is simple. Alternate them. White socks with all-white last night, navy socks with all-white next time. And so on.

    Much better than my first idea, btw, which was: White sock for left leg; Navy for right leg. Or vice versa.

    —Ricko

  • Paul Lukas | September 8, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”288421″][quote comment=”288396″]Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.[/quote]
    Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Comment of the day.

  • Jim MI | September 8, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    Watching the DET/ATL NFL game, notice that when Roy Williams took his helmet off he has a completely shaven head execpt for a little patch of hair in the middle of the bottom of his head. Kinda where your head and neck meet. I can only think of three reasons:

    1) He has the worst barber in the history of barbers

    2) He’s an idiot and think he looks good

    3) It’s there for some kind of helmet issue, like prevents rubbing or something

    Can’t find a pic, but did anyone else see it? Or know the reason?

  • Robert | September 8, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    Yep, the Bears in all white looked great to me. For reasons that I cannot adequately explain, pro teams look great in white-white, while college teams rarely do. White-white just looks professional to me, while colored pants (except for gold or yellow) look collegey (in a good way, when worn by amateurs).

  • Duckstyle | September 8, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”288450″][quote comment=”288421″][quote comment=”288396″]Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.[/quote]
    Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Comment of the day.[/quote]

    Damn, Phil was my Pick-to-Click.

  • VossRules | September 8, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    There has been some talk around Chicago that the NFL uniform police are going to force Devin Hester to change uniform numbers from his current #23 to one a more WR appropriate one. Who do you think is going to pay Reebok thier “financial obligation” fee for such a change?

  • Robert | September 8, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    Oh, and silver pants are fine for pro teams as well, so long as they are not part or a monochrome outfit.

  • Kenny | September 8, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    Huge Bears fan here

    and in regards to the Bears white on white, i like them, although being only 25, I am more used to seeing them wearing the blue pants, so that’s what’s “normal” to me…the blue on blue on the other hand, not so good

  • Jim MI | September 8, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    Is this Gene Upsaw memorial just for Week #1 or is this a seaon long thing…

  • Duckstyle | September 8, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”288455″]Oh, and silver pants are fine for pro teams as well, so long as they are not part or a monochrome outfit.[/quote]

    Silver, or the old-lady Buick blue-silver the ‘Boys wear at home?

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”288450″][quote comment=”288421″][quote comment=”288396″]Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.[/quote]
    Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Comment of the day.[/quote]

    Patriots doubtless are designing a
    “Bury My Season At Wounded Knee”
    Patch.

    Gee, if it’d been the Redskins that would have been an every tackier remark. But, hey, since when does the NFL care about tacky?

    Those Lions jerseys, for example, look like the back bumper of a 1979 pickup truck in a mobile home park.

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    If Upshaw had died in March, there wouldn’t be anywhere close to this amount of fawning.

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”288460″]If Upshaw had died in March, there wouldn’t be anywhere close to this amount of fawning.[/quote]

    “Fawning”, that’s the word.
    NFL: “Cool, this year we get another chance to show how much we care, how sensitive we are.”
    (insert official reebok tear-running-down-cheek patch)

  • brian | September 8, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”288392″][quote comment=”288385″]am sure that Reebok has plenty of cash, but has anyone thought that Reebok and Mr. Johnson may have a signed contractual agreement in which Mr. Johnson gets PAID for wearing 86 with his NOB? I’m guessing Reebok does this to protect themselves from players arbitrarily changing their number all the time, leaving them stuck with “old” jerseys. probably never happened with a name before but the same principle applies. Mr. Johnson gave his word he would wear that jersey AND WAS COMPENSATED FOR IT (handsomely, I’m sure). instead of criticizing Reebok maybe we ought to say something about the need for people to keep their word and fulfill their contracts. I don’t think the company is the bad guy here – they are just asking Mr. Johnson to do as he said and do what they paid him for. how is that a bad thing?[/quote]

    Get it right- it’s Mr. Ocho Cinco.[/quote]

    Someone correct me if I am wrong, but the NFL players do not make individual money for jersey sales. The Players get a cut of the money “NFL Properties” makes based on thier number of years in the league, not based on their personal sales. So Chad Whatever won’t make any more money for having a new jersey for sale but all of the NFL players would.

  • DJK | September 8, 2008 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”288452″]Yep, the Bears in all white looked great to me. For reasons that I cannot adequately explain, pro teams look great in white-white, while college teams rarely do. White-white just looks professional to me, while colored pants (except for gold or yellow) look collegey (in a good way, when worn by amateurs).[/quote]

    White-on-white in football just equals BORING. Or a baseball uniform on the football field. I actually like the all white look (Colts, Dolphins, etc.), better than the all white with a dark helmet (Bears). That’s just the traditional baseball look, and I think the contrast just looks better in football.

    Kudos to the Ravens on their best combo ever.

    I thought the Rams looked fine, but I think their dark jerseys/gold pants combo is the leagues single best uniform.

  • Justin in AR | September 8, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”288451″]Watching the DET/ATL NFL game, notice that when Roy Williams took his helmet off he has a completely shaven head execpt for a little patch of hair in the middle of the bottom of his head. Kinda where your head and neck meet. I can only think of three reasons:

    1) He has the worst barber in the history of barbers

    2) He’s an idiot and think he looks good

    3) It’s there for some kind of helmet issue, like prevents rubbing or something

    Can’t find a pic, but did anyone else see it? Or know the reason?[/quote]

    Didn’t see that particular game, but was it sort of like what Drew Gooden did with his hair?

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  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”288441″]Teh BEars definitly look better in all white than withe the blue pants, the blue pants look weird under the lights. That being said:

    Brandon Llyod had baggie sleeves last night, he’s a WR! http://sports.yahoo....

    And if you’re wearing all white, don’t let that extend to your footwear, Kyle Orton had on some shoes that looked more white than black. http://sports.yahoo....

    Nike Air Zoom Super Bad 2:
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    He could have also worn these:
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    This year many players, including Anthony Gonzalez, have bben wearing these, which could be construed as being more white than black:

    Nike Men’s Vapor Jet 4.2
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  • Jim MI | September 8, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”288464″][quote comment=”288451″]Watching the DET/ATL NFL game, notice that when Roy Williams took his helmet off he has a completely shaven head execpt for a little patch of hair in the middle of the bottom of his head. Kinda where your head and neck meet. I can only think of three reasons:

    1) He has the worst barber in the history of barbers

    2) He’s an idiot and think he looks good

    3) It’s there for some kind of helmet issue, like prevents rubbing or something

    Can’t find a pic, but did anyone else see it? Or know the reason?[/quote]

    Didn’t see that particular game, but was it sort of like what Drew Gooden did with his hair?

    http://bp3.blogger.c...

    Exactly… so I’m going to go with my option #2, must be he’s an idiot and think it looks good. Hopefully it’s #1 and he has the worst barber and no one has the heart to tell him that he missed a spot…

  • Hot Rodd | September 8, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    I’m pretty sure that the Colts patch said “Grand Opening” so hopefully it is only a week one thing.

    Also I noticed the GU button on most of the head coaches yesterday. (All the women casual observers kept asking what the GU was for.

  • Chad | September 8, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    paul, here’s a gallery of game pics with from the colts game. i have the game dvr’d, if you want a screen grab of the patch let me know
    http://www2.indystar...

  • Steven | September 8, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    Can anyone provide some info (or a link) as to the meaning of the different colored stars under the “C” on the NFL Captain’s patches? Thanks…

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”288468″]paul, here’s a gallery of game pics with from the colts game. i have the game dvr’d, if you want a screen grab of the patch let me know
    http://www2.indystar...

    Since we have been talking about modified Air Jordan cleats today, check out Marvin Harrison wearing Air Jordan III PE Cleats:

    http://www2.indystar...

    Mike Borwn? of the Bears appears to be wearing customized Nike Shox Fuse, which are molded baseball cleats:
    http://www2.indystar...

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”288469″]Can anyone provide some info (or a link) as to the meaning of the different colored stars under the “C” on the NFL Captain’s patches? Thanks…[/quote]

    http://www.washingto...

    Interesting article (and it mentions Paul as well), and there’s an explanation under the Urlacher picture.

    That explanation doesn’t jive, though: The program was enacted last year, but some guys already have gold stars last year as well? Case in point, the Urlacher picture is from 2007 and he already has a gold star. Unless the gold stars were retroactive, but (and a Bears fan could probably answer this), I would think uUrlacher was team captain for a few years prior to that, so shouldn’t all of his stars be gold? So confusing……

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    High socks, low socks, pants above the knee, a wide receiver wearing #23, black shoes that look like white shoes…

    omg, anarchy running rampant in the NFL.

    Civilization as we know it teeters on the brink.

    This is one of the things I remember most about Sean Taylor…

    http://www.uniformvi...

  • Duckstyle | September 8, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”288471″][quote comment=”288469″]Can anyone provide some info (or a link) as to the meaning of the different colored stars under the “C” on the NFL Captain’s patches? Thanks…[/quote]

    http://www.washingto...

    Interesting article (and it mentions Paul as well), and there’s an explanation under the Urlacher picture.

    That explanation doesn’t jive, though: The program was enacted last year, but some guys already have gold stars last year as well? Case in point, the Urlacher picture is from 2007 and he already has a gold star. Unless the gold stars were retroactive, but (and a Bears fan could probably answer this), I would think uUrlacher was team captain for a few years prior to that, so shouldn’t all of his stars be gold? So confusing……[/quote]

    I thought everyone that wore it last year had one gold star….and if they wear it again they’d have two, etc. What am I missing? Does anyone actually like these captain patches? I don’t mind a big “C” on a jersey, but a league mandated patch with stars on it?, really? What is this 1st grade?

  • Dre | September 8, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”288370″][quote comment=”288366″][quote comment=”288364″]A note from yesterday’s Ravens game. We wore a white top with black pants. Don’t know if we did that in preseason or not, but during the Billick era, we wore mostly white/white.[/quote]

    what position do you play?[/quote]

    Couch Linebacker, smart guy. Gimme a break, I’m caught up in some excitement. I’m a fan, and fans tend to speak of their team in the collective first person on occasion. Snippy, snippy.[/quote]

    Funny… good response! However the “what position do you play” line was pretty good too. Who knew Uniwatch Blog was full of comedians?

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | September 8, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”288429″][quote comment=”288420″][quote comment=”288414″]Bears players led by Urlacher voted to wear white on white all season. I have always hated their blue pants so I’m all for it, but they have to figure out which socks go with the white pants. Old school looks great. Last night’s socks, which were only created to go with the wretched blu pants look like crap. The white on white also benefits greatly from grass stains.[/quote]

    Eh, I always liked the blue pants. It’s a classy and classic look.

    But I agree about the socks. They should go with their navy blue “sleeve striping” socks when they go with the all-white look.[/quote]
    Never did like the blue pants. The white/white is more classic for the Bears. I agree on the sock thing – gotta be blue.

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    Bears looked SEXY last night! I loved the white out look…They could have gone with the navy striped socks but the white socks were just as good looking. I LOVE the blue pants too…I think I enjoy every combination the Bears have to offer except the Navy monochrome.

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  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”288473″]I thought everyone that wore it last year had one gold star….and if they wear it again they’d have two, etc. What am I missing? Does anyone actually like these captain patches? I don’t mind a big “C” on a jersey, but a league mandated patch with stars on it?, really? What is this 1st grade?[/quote]

    No, there were definitely players last year who didn’t have gold stars. In fact, I recall wondering why certain individuals had a gold star, instead of the other way around (“why doesn’t that guy have a gold star?”). Maybe the gold star-less players were first-time captains?

    Like I said, confusing. The gold stars really don’t serve any purpose, because you see a guy like Brian Urlacher or Peyton Manning, with their one (now two) gold stars, and you have to think, wait a minute, I’m pretty sure he’s been captain for more than 1 or 2 years……

  • Scott | September 8, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    College footbal make baseball irrelevent?? I’m guessing you’re from the South.

    I live in the south, but am from Big Ten country. Yeah, the length of the baseball season makes it pretty irrelevant and causes “fatigue” by season’s end … that fatigue pretty much sums up the reason why I can’t stand the pants baseball players wear anymore. Enough is enough. The baggy style pant is stupid … and just smacks of anything close to “athletic.”

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | September 8, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”288470″][quote comment=”288468″]paul, here’s a gallery of game pics with from the colts game. i have the game dvr’d, if you want a screen grab of the patch let me know
    http://www2.indystar...

    Since we have been talking about modified Air Jordan cleats today, check out Marvin Harrison wearing Air Jordan III PE Cleats:

    http://www2.indystar...

    Mike Borwn? of the Bears appears to be wearing customized Nike Shox Fuse, which are molded baseball cleats:
    http://www2.indystar...

    I like those Marvin Harrison PE’s! Much better than Jason Taylor’s. Mike Brown is wearing a pair of Nike Shox Fuse…not sure if he’s wearing a customized sole or an MCS (metal cleat substitute) pair.

    GOD I LOVE LOOKING AT THOSE UNI’s from last night! SO what if Chicago is a painful sports town…WE GOOD DOING IT DAMMIT!

  • Duckstyle | September 8, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”288476″][quote comment=”288473″]I thought everyone that wore it last year had one gold star….and if they wear it again they’d have two, etc. What am I missing? Does anyone actually like these captain patches? I don’t mind a big “C” on a jersey, but a league mandated patch with stars on it?, really? What is this 1st grade?[/quote]

    No, there were definitely players last year who didn’t have gold stars. In fact, I recall wondering why certain individuals had a gold star, instead of the other way around (“why doesn’t that guy have a gold star?”). Maybe the gold star-less players were first-time captains?

    Like I said, confusing. The gold stars really don’t serve any purpose, because you see a guy like Brian Urlacher or Peyton Manning, with their one (now two) gold stars, and you have to think, wait a minute, I’m pretty sure he’s been captain for more than 1 or 2 years……[/quote]

    Must have missed the star-less players. Makes me think it was up to the equipment managers to add the gold to the patches and they screwed it up.

  • Chad | September 8, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    patrick ewing wore shorts for his hall of fame intuction http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • Johnny O | September 8, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”288473″][quote comment=”288471″][quote comment=”288469″]Can anyone provide some info (or a link) as to the meaning of the different colored stars under the “C” on the NFL Captain’s patches? Thanks…[/quote]

    http://www.washingto...

    Interesting article (and it mentions Paul as well), and there’s an explanation under the Urlacher picture.

    That explanation doesn’t jive, though: The program was enacted last year, but some guys already have gold stars last year as well? Case in point, the Urlacher picture is from 2007 and he already has a gold star. Unless the gold stars were retroactive, but (and a Bears fan could probably answer this), I would think uUrlacher was team captain for a few years prior to that, so shouldn’t all of his stars be gold? So confusing……[/quote]

    I thought everyone that wore it last year had one gold star….and if they wear it again they’d have two, etc. What am I missing? Does anyone actually like these captain patches? I don’t mind a big “C” on a jersey, but a league mandated patch with stars on it?, really? What is this 1st grade?[/quote]

    Anyone know of any teams who are not going to be wearing the captain patches this year?

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”288479″]Must have missed the star-less players. Makes me think it was up to the equipment managers to add the gold to the patches and they screwed it up.[/quote]

    I think you hit the nail right on the head with your first comment, comparing league-mandated stars to 1st grade. Something that causes so much confusion and questions that cannot be answered without some major head-scratching means you have a bad idea on your hands. At least the league doesn’t require the patches to be worn.

    I think the Ravens have it right: A patch doesn’t mean squat. They know who to look to for leadership, “C” patch be damned.

  • Jet | September 8, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    Haven’t read thru all the comments to see if this has been mentioned already, but what’s with that extra red stripe at the bottom of the waist and sleeves on the Redwings jersey that Sarah Palin is holding?? Did they make a slight change to the design for the upcoming season??

    -Jet

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”288481″]Anyone know of any teams who are not going to be wearing the captain patches this year?[/quote]

    The Ravens definitely will not be wearing them.

  • Mike | September 8, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    Nice patch which showcases the pillbox hat

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  • chance | September 8, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”288476″][quote comment=”288473″]I thought everyone that wore it last year had one gold star….and if they wear it again they’d have two, etc. What am I missing? Does anyone actually like these captain patches? I don’t mind a big “C” on a jersey, but a league mandated patch with stars on it?, really? What is this 1st grade?[/quote]

    No, there were definitely players last year who didn’t have gold stars. In fact, I recall wondering why certain individuals had a gold star, instead of the other way around (“why doesn’t that guy have a gold star?”). Maybe the gold star-less players were first-time captains?[/quote]
    I think you’ll have to find a picture to support that. It was announced that all captain patches last year would show that the player was in his first year of the New Captaincy – I’m not aware that anyone wore a patch with four white stars. I think you may be misremembering, assisted by the fact that at any distance there’s no clear visual distinction between a yellow star and a white one, making the whole exercise even sillier.
    [quote comment=”288476″]Like I said, confusing. The gold stars really don’t serve any purpose, because you see a guy like Brian Urlacher or Peyton Manning, with their one (now two) gold stars, and you have to think, wait a minute, I’m pretty sure he’s been captain for more than 1 or 2 years……[/quote]
    Ah, but they weren’t official Captains-With-Patches. Everybody started from Year One last season, no credit for time served.

  • BlazinOKFF | September 8, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    After seeing the “GU” memorial over the weekend emblazoned on anything and everything I thought to myself…”I’m sure glad his first name wasn’t Frank…”

  • chance | September 8, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”288484″][quote comment=”288481″]Anyone know of any teams who are not going to be wearing the captain patches this year?[/quote]

    The Ravens definitely will not be wearing them.[/quote]
    I hope the Packers won’t be wearing them, either. We didn’t last season, but that’s because the team selected new captains for every game and there wasn’t time to sew them on. Captains were chosen for the entire playoffs, so patches were sewn on for the post-season (see what bad luck those damn things bring?).

  • Joe Drennan | September 8, 2008 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”288479″][quote comment=”288476″][quote comment=”288473″]I thought everyone that wore it last year had one gold star….and if they wear it again they’d have two, etc. What am I missing? Does anyone actually like these captain patches? I don’t mind a big “C” on a jersey, but a league mandated patch with stars on it?, really? What is this 1st grade?[/quote]

    No, there were definitely players last year who didn’t have gold stars. In fact, I recall wondering why certain individuals had a gold star, instead of the other way around (“why doesn’t that guy have a gold star?”). Maybe the gold star-less players were first-time captains?

    Like I said, confusing. The gold stars really don’t serve any purpose, because you see a guy like Brian Urlacher or Peyton Manning, with their one (now two) gold stars, and you have to think, wait a minute, I’m pretty sure he’s been captain for more than 1 or 2 years……[/quote]

    Must have missed the star-less players. Makes me think it was up to the equipment managers to add the gold to the patches and they screwed it up.[/quote]

    I wonder, after reading the article, some teams had the same captain all season, others rotated. Is it maybe those teams with rotating captains went without the gold starts, but those that had the same one all season long had the gold star?

    Joe Skiba, stop washing jerseys and applying helmet decals and come answer our questions.

  • Michael | September 8, 2008 at 12:59 pm |

    If this has been covered before please forgive me. Yesterday the Panthers wore there blue alternate jerseys on the road in San Diego. I thought the NFL rules on alternate jerseys were: they must be a color & they can be worn twice a year at home both of which must be home games. Have those rules changed?

    If so the Steelers may eventually go with a yellow alternate because they wanted one only for away games to avoid the heat.

    I agree on the patches, some of those jerseys are starting look like they belong in NASCAR!

  • Kek | September 8, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    Man, the gripefest over the GU patches is worse than what I thouht it would be! I said it in the comments yesterday but I’ll say it again, I think it looked OK on the Steelers yesterday because the balcks all blended in and you really couldn’t how big the patch is.

    Also, can we add “what do the stars on the captain patch mean?” to green-dot status?!?! I’m just teasing, I know there is some inconsistency as to the gold and white stars, just saying, there’s been a lot of posts on the topic.

    I’m so puzzled with the whole captain patch thing. I can’t understand why the NFL, the NFL that makes every player on the team (save punters/kickers) wear the same color shoe, fine guys for sock length, etc, won’t make this program all or nothing. It just seems inconsistent with all the other uni madness and rigid rules that they would allow the Steelers, Ravens, Cheifs, et al to go sans-captain patch.

  • Bob A | September 8, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    Never thought anything could ruin the Colts unis. The huge patches sure do. The GU can be seen from space.

  • Kek | September 8, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”288424″][quote comment=”288421″]Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Man, if there’s anything that provides reason for mourning in Beantown, it was seeing Brady a crumpled heap on the ground, holding his knee.

    Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.[/quote]
    I’m not sure how/why you would make that statement. Cassel is just as unproven as Warner was or even Tom Brady when he took over for Bledsoe. Plus, it’s not as if he stunk up the joint in relief yesterday.

    I can’t stand this day of mourning from ESPN Radio this morning. Those guys suck ass so bad anymore and it just seems they are so much in the tank for Boston area squads. That clown Erik Kuselias was on Mike & Mike talking about what a bad thing for the NFL this is.

    Nonsense. The NFL is more popular than ever and it’s because of gambling, fantasy football and parity. No one player is the face of the league. Life would have went on if Favre wouldn’t have come back…and it will go on if Brady is on IR all season.

  • Joe D | September 8, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    I’m sorry if this has already been mentioned (long day, don’t feel like looking through 100 comments), but the Steelers didn’t wear the captain patches last year either. I assumed it was because the had the usual Steelers logo on one side and the 75th anniversary logo on the other.

    If that assumption is true, I wonder if Gene Upshaw makes for a good excuse to not wear Cs even though other teams wore them both. If not, I hope the Steelers are just being traditionalist rebels.

  • Robert | September 8, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”288458″][quote comment=”288455″]Oh, and silver pants are fine for pro teams as well, so long as they are not part or a monochrome outfit.[/quote]

    Silver, or the old-lady Buick blue-silver the ‘Boys wear at home?[/quote]

    I was going to throw in that the Cowboys’ hideously ugly pants were not acceptable, but that goes without saying, right?

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”288486″]I think you’ll have to find a picture to support that. It was announced that all captain patches last year would show that the player was in his first year of the New Captaincy – I’m not aware that anyone wore a patch with four white stars. I think you may be misremembering, assisted by the fact that at any distance there’s no clear visual distinction between a yellow star and a white one, making the whole exercise even sillier.[/quote]

    It’s funny, but I actually am having a hard time finding pix from last year with players wearing the patches. It might be “misremembering”, but in any case, that raises another question: Why even bother the stars? If everyone started last year with a gold star, then what was the point? You had a guy like Michael Strahan , who was the G-Men’s captain since forever, sharing duties and gold stars with Eli Manning, who up until his playoff run, didn’t inspire “captaincy” or leadership in any sense of the word. I mean, I guess in a case like Brett Favre’s, even though he’s been a captain for two consecutive seasons now, he’ll have one gold star because this is his first year as the Jets team captain. It just seems like the whole stars / gold stars concept detract from the overall point of having a captain’s patch.

    This had to have been thought up by some “genius” in the marketing department. They couldn’t just do the little “C” sewn on the jersey. They had to make up a whole patch with a system of stars for God know what reason……

  • chance | September 8, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”288489″]I wonder, after reading the article, some teams had the same captain all season, others rotated. Is it maybe those teams with rotating captains went without the gold starts, but those that had the same one all season long had the gold star?
    [/quote]

    Nope, the Packers rotated, which is why they went without the patches.

    Still need to see a picture of a 4-white-star patch.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote]If this has been covered before please forgive me. Yesterday the Panthers wore there blue alternate jerseys on the road in San Diego. I thought the NFL rules on alternate jerseys were: they must be a color & they can be worn twice a year at home both of which must be home games. Have those rules changed?[/quote]

    i thought PL mentioned the panthers changed the alt jersey to black for this season, but i could be wrong

    im hoping im not, as the blue is so much better and i wouldn’t mind never seeing the black again

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”288472″]High socks, low socks, pants above the knee, a wide receiver wearing #23, black shoes that look like white shoes…

    omg, anarchy running rampant in the NFL.

    Civilization as we know it teeters on the brink.

    This is one of the things I remember most about Sean Taylor…

    http://www.uniformvi...

    Ricko, that site is INCREDIBLE…it is like a spin-off of UW!

  • Jim MI | September 8, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”288483″]Haven’t read thru all the comments to see if this has been mentioned already, but what’s with that extra red stripe at the bottom of the waist and sleeves on the Redwings jersey that Sarah Palin is holding?? Did they make a slight change to the design for the upcoming season??

    -Jet[/quote]

    No uni changes for the Wings this year Jet, just someone gave her a shotty jersey…

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    Oops sorry about the bold, this is what my post should have looked like

    It’s funny, but I actually am having a hard time finding pix from last year with players wearing the patches. It might be “misremembering”, but in any case, that raises another question: Why even bother having the stars? If everyone started last year with a gold star, then what was the point? You had a guy like Michael Strahan , who was the G-Men’s captain since forever, sharing duties and gold stars with Eli Manning, who up until his playoff run, didn’t inspire “captaincy” or leadership in any sense of the word. I mean, I guess in a case like Brett Favre’s, even though he’s been a captain for two consecutive seasons now, he’ll have one gold star because this is his first year as the Jets team captain. It just seems like the whole stars / gold stars concept detract from the overall point of having a captain’s patch.

    This had to have been thought up by some “genius” in the marketing department. They couldn’t just do the little “C” sewn on the jersey. They had to make up a whole patch with a system of stars for God know what reason……

  • Christopher | September 8, 2008 at 1:21 pm |

    RE: the safety thing. I think it has to do more with the closeness of the call, which often safetys are. Like a close incomplete pass, as a fan its hard not to get up and wave your arms in the incomplete pass motion. Sort-of telling the ref to look at what’s going on.

  • Kek | September 8, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”288502″]

    RE: the safety thing. I think it has to do more with the closeness of the call, which often safetys are. Like a close incomplete pass, as a fan its hard not to get up and wave your arms in the incomplete pass motion. Sort-of telling the ref to look at what’s going on.[/quote]
    Also, it’s rare, and a huge deal for the defense to score the two points.

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    Some NHL stuff today to note:

    First off, check the logo at center ice in the RBC Arena for the Carolina Hurricanes. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen the logo for a brand-new alternate jersey installed on an ice surface before the normal logo has.

    The Montreal Canadiens have emblazoned their home ice with the “100 years” logo, similar to the patch they will be wearing.

  • Kek | September 8, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”288498″][quote]If this has been covered before please forgive me. Yesterday the Panthers wore there blue alternate jerseys on the road in San Diego. I thought the NFL rules on alternate jerseys were: they must be a color & they can be worn twice a year at home both of which must be home games. Have those rules changed?[/quote]

    i thought PL mentioned the panthers changed the alt jersey to black for this season, but i could be wrong

    im hoping im not, as the blue is so much better and i wouldn’t mind never seeing the black again[/quote]
    I think you have it twisted…you’re thinking of the Titans changing their primary home jersey from navy to the light blue and using the navy as an alternate.

  • =bg= | September 8, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”288421″][quote comment=”288396″]Just a thought, but would not surprise me at all if the Raiders all came out wearing #63 for tonight’s game. Its just the type of over-the-top look-at-me over-memorialization that we’ve become accustomed to.[/quote]
    Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Ouch.

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”288500″][quote comment=”288483″]Haven’t read thru all the comments to see if this has been mentioned already, but what’s with that extra red stripe at the bottom of the waist and sleeves on the Redwings jersey that Sarah Palin is holding?? Did they make a slight change to the design for the upcoming season??

    -Jet[/quote]

    They will reportedly be wearing a different jersey for the Winter Classic, but that has yet to be introduced to the public.

    No uni changes for the Wings this year Jet, just someone gave her a shotty jersey…[/quote]

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”288480″]patrick ewing wore shorts for his hall of fame intuction http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    I have NO problem with that as a fashion statement.

    However, one should understand the gravity of the situation and dress with tact and etiquette displaying respect for those who came before him.

    That might sound sarcastic but I am totally serious.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”288498″]i thought PL mentioned the panthers changed the alt jersey to black for this season, but i could be wrong

    im hoping im not, as the blue is so much better and i wouldn’t mind never seeing the black again[/quote]

    I don’t recall that. The Titans, however, have made their powder blue jersey the home jersey and have made the navy blue their alternate.

  • =bg= | September 8, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”288487″]After seeing the “GU” memorial over the weekend emblazoned on anything and everything I thought to myself…”I’m sure glad his first name wasn’t Frank…”[/quote]

    Just noticed this post. Post Of The Day. The voting is now already closed, no one will beat it.
    FU63. Classic.

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”288507″]Haven’t read thru all the comments to see if this has been mentioned already, but what’s with that extra red stripe at the bottom of the waist and sleeves on the Redwings jersey that Sarah Palin is holding?? Did they make a slight change to the design for the upcoming season??[/quote]

    They will reportedly be wearing a different jersey for the Winter Classic, but that has yet to be introduced to the public.

    Apparently I was having some coding problems. Sorry all!

  • =bg= | September 8, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    PS, let’s not feel TOOO bad for Tom Brady. Sure, he’s out. Sure, it must hurt like a mother. But he’s still getting paid HOW much to go home to……….Giselle Bundchen? Let’s take it all in perspective, people.

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”288503″][quote comment=”288502″]

    RE: the safety thing. I think it has to do more with the closeness of the call, which often safetys are. Like a close incomplete pass, as a fan its hard not to get up and wave your arms in the incomplete pass motion. Sort-of telling the ref to look at what’s going on.[/quote]
    Also, it’s rare, and a huge deal for the defense to score the two points.[/quote]

    A safety is an incredibly rare and exciting play, much like a triple or an inside-the-park home run.

    More often than not, plays that appear to be a safety are really not, so the imploring by the defense, much like a team claimimg posession on a fumble, is designed to persuade the officials as well.

    However, I do like the “defense scoring” argument best!

    For the defense to react that way in an instantaneous celebration is more than acceptable.

  • Chris | September 8, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”288424″][quote comment=”288421″]Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Man, if there’s anything that provides reason for mourning in Beantown, it was seeing Brady a crumpled heap on the ground, holding his knee.

    Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.[/quote]
    More like a “Tom Brady takes over for Drew Bledsoe and the Pats to a title” or do we only include QB’s with one ring?
    On another note, why did the Chiefs wear an AFL patch, or what looked like the old AFL logo?

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”288514″][quote comment=”288424″][quote comment=”288421″]Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Man, if there’s anything that provides reason for mourning in Beantown, it was seeing Brady a crumpled heap on the ground, holding his knee.

    Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.[/quote]
    More like a “Tom Brady takes over for Drew Bledsoe and the Pats to a title” or do we only include QB’s with one ring?
    On another note, why did the Chiefs wear an AFL patch, or what looked like the old AFL logo?[/quote]

    You may not have to worry about Cassel whatsoever. The Patriots have reportedly contacted Chris Simms to take over the reins in New England.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”288505″][quote comment=”288498″][quote]If this has been covered before please forgive me. Yesterday the Panthers wore there blue alternate jerseys on the road in San Diego. I thought the NFL rules on alternate jerseys were: they must be a color & they can be worn twice a year at home both of which must be home games. Have those rules changed?[/quote]

    i thought PL mentioned the panthers changed the alt jersey to black for this season, but i could be wrong

    im hoping im not, as the blue is so much better and i wouldn’t mind never seeing the black again[/quote]
    I think you have it twisted…you’re thinking of the Titans changing their primary home jersey from navy to the light blue and using the navy as an alternate.[/quote]

    i guess i did fck that up…

    although, one would think if you are limited to wearing your alt to two games (or is it two HOME games???)…you’d wear them at home…

    found this:

    [quote]The Panthers have made minor changes to their uniforms since coming into the NFL in 1995. The dark jerseys are black tops, silver pants with black socks and white tops, white pants and Carolina blue socks. They have added a Carolina Blue alternate jersey which has been worn with the team’s silver pants and black socks. The alternate jersey has been worn twice a season beginning in 2003. They did wear the silver pants with the white jersey just once in 1998.[/quote]

    on this site…some good team/uni info

  • Mfeige | September 8, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    With this recent spate of Reebok stupidity about uniforms and finacial obligations. Why was Kobe just allowed to switch from 8 to 24? I believe the last season he wore 8 was also the last season that Reebok did the NBA Uniforms, but Adidas picked them up and they are technically the same company (which is why it switched hands). Is it because they knew that it would sell more jerseys? I think that Ocho Cinco Jerseys would sell, but I don’t really follow the NFL or understand it’s consumers. Is it because there is some special contract with the NFL and Reebok?

    Just Wondering

    Matt

  • DW | September 8, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    Yep, the old-school NBC “snake” logo is truly missed. Simple. Lindsey Nelson held a mic with the same logo in the Mets 1969 post-game show … the one where G. Thomas Seaver first gets acquainted with grape squeezings.
    Would like to have a black hat with that logo in white … NBC doesn’t sell it but I bet I could get one made up.

    Here’s some “snake” video:
    http://www.youtube.c...

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Kenny | September 8, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”288473″][quote comment=”288471″][quote comment=”288469″]Can anyone provide some info (or a link) as to the meaning of the different colored stars under the “C” on the NFL Captain’s patches? Thanks…[/quote]

    http://www.washingto...

    Interesting article (and it mentions Paul as well), and there’s an explanation under the Urlacher picture.

    That explanation doesn’t jive, though: The program was enacted last year, but some guys already have gold stars last year as well? Case in point, the Urlacher picture is from 2007 and he already has a gold star. Unless the gold stars were retroactive, but (and a Bears fan could probably answer this), I would think uUrlacher was team captain for a few years prior to that, so shouldn’t all of his stars be gold? So confusing……[/quote]

    I thought everyone that wore it last year had one gold star….and if they wear it again they’d have two, etc. What am I missing? Does anyone actually like these captain patches? I don’t mind a big “C” on a jersey, but a league mandated patch with stars on it?, really? What is this 1st grade?[/quote]

    Here’s my thought and I’m sure many others…is it necessary for teams to wear them? Answer: no, so it’s stupid end of story.

  • Wade | September 8, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    Did anyone notice in the Carolina/San Diego game that Norv and the boys on the SD sidelines were wearing the baby blue alternative shirts and hats although there weren’t wearing the alternative jerseys. Could have been a heat thing as well?

  • Justin in AR | September 8, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”288480″]patrick ewing wore shorts for his hall of fame intuction http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    HAHAHAHAHA! That made my day.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”288493″]Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.

    I’m not sure how/why you would make that statement. Cassel is just as unproven as Warner was or even Tom Brady when he took over for Bledsoe. Plus, it’s not as if he stunk up the joint in relief yesterday.[/quote]

    Maybe because Belichick has been looking at other QB’s to come in and take over, including Chris Simms, as someone pointed out earlier. Something that he didn’t do with Brady when Bledsoe got hurt.

    Plus it doesn’t help that the last time Matt Cassel started a game was in 1999. Yes, he came in and beat the Chiefs yesterday. A really bad team. And beat them only 17-10.
    He might still be able to do it, considering the talent he has around him. I just don’t see it happening, IMHO.

  • Jet | September 8, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”288504″]Some NHL stuff today to note:
    [/quote]

    Good find Teebz, but I could do without all that product advertising on the Montreal ice!!

    -Jet

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”288522″][quote comment=”288493″]Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.

    I’m not sure how/why you would make that statement. Cassel is just as unproven as Warner was or even Tom Brady when he took over for Bledsoe. Plus, it’s not as if he stunk up the joint in relief yesterday.[/quote]

    Maybe because Belichick has been looking at other QB’s to come in and take over, including Chris Simms, as someone pointed out earlier. Something that he didn’t do with Brady when Bledsoe got hurt.

    Plus it doesn’t help that the last time Matt Cassel started a game was in 1999. Yes, he came in and beat the Chiefs yesterday. A really bad team. And beat them only 17-10.
    He might still be able to do it, considering the talent he has around him. I just don’t see it happening, IMHO.[/quote]

    And somewhere in South Florida Daunte Culpepper sits staring at his phone, wondering if his retirement annoucement came a few days too soon.

    Kinda thought he might have been wiser to wait and see how things went on opening weekend.

    Might be nice for the Pats to have someone who could heave it out there deep for Moss. Don’t get me wrong, not a big Culpepper fan…just imagining interesting storylines.

    —Ricko

  • KT | September 8, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

    Got news for ya: If Chris Simms is the Pats’ starting QB…like, ever, you’re done.

    And this has probably been addressed already but:
    1. The GU 63 thing is just too much. The patch is too big (thank God the field marking will be gone after tonight) and with all the other crap NFL teams have on their jerseys now, it’s just a mess. I would like to find out what they did when Pete Rozelle died.
    2. The Colts, with their new stadium patch apparently sewn on by blind, hyperactive monkeys, looked like hell last night. Manning worst of all with the GU 63, the Captain’s nonsense, the stadium patch and the NFL Equipment logo. Thank God the Colts don’t have a wordmark like (too) many other teams.
    3. Will Peter King wear a black armband for Tom Brady? He’s still dreamy, by the way.

  • joe | September 8, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”288524″][quote comment=”288522″][quote comment=”288493″]Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.

    I’m not sure how/why you would make that statement. Cassel is just as unproven as Warner was or even Tom Brady when he took over for Bledsoe. Plus, it’s not as if he stunk up the joint in relief yesterday.[/quote]

    Maybe because Belichick has been looking at other QB’s to come in and take over, including Chris Simms, as someone pointed out earlier. Something that he didn’t do with Brady when Bledsoe got hurt.

    Plus it doesn’t help that the last time Matt Cassel started a game was in 1999. Yes, he came in and beat the Chiefs yesterday. A really bad team. And beat them only 17-10.
    He might still be able to do it, considering the talent he has around him. I just don’t see it happening, IMHO.[/quote]

    And somewhere in South Florida Daunte Culpepper sits staring at his phone, wondering if his retirement annoucement came a few days too soon.

    Kinda thought he might have been wiser to wait and see how things went on opening weekend.

    Might be nice for the Pats to have someone who could heave it out there deep for Moss. Don’t get me wrong, not a big Culpepper fan…just imagining interesting storylines.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    not at all, now when a team comes to him to play, he can say, “I’m retired, but I’ll come back if the $$$ are big enough”. If he was just waiting around he’d look desperate.

  • Fleeser | September 8, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”288441″]Teh BEars definitly look better in all white than withe the blue pants, the blue pants look weird under the lights. That being said:

    Brandon Llyod had baggie sleeves last night, he’s a WR! http://sports.yahoo....

    And if you’re wearing all white, don’t let that extend to your footwear, Kyle Orton had on some shoes that looked more white than black. http://sports.yahoo....

    I disagree. I prefer the Bears in blue pants on the road. In general, I like colored pants paired with white jerseys instead of white on white. I think the Colts are the only exception.

  • Tyler | September 8, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    Somebody might have mentioned this, but in regards to that Marshall-Wisconsin logo mixup, FSN also screwed up in another game, this one much more baffling. Don’t have a picture of it, but while running Oregon State-Penn State highlights, they put up a graphic of the OSU logo correctly, but above “Penn State,” it was the shield of Penn. Well done, FSN. That’s an easy one to screw up.

  • Wollen1 | September 8, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    Couldn’t disagree more on the Virginia throwbacks. The old Virginia uni was not flashy, which made it a great college football uniform. I always liked the colors and especially the helmet striping. I was glad to see the school break them out again. Tos. Jefferson would be proud.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”288526″]not at all, now when a team comes to him to play, he can say, “I’m retired, but I’ll come back if the $$$ are big enough”. If he was just waiting around he’d look desperate.[/quote]

    If a team comes to him. He was offered the backup job for the Packers at $1 mil per, but turned it down. Teams just aren’t going to show him the money, not when he’s a guy who tore all the ligaments in his knee and looked like crap when he returned.

  • Kenny | September 8, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    THAT’S ME!

  • KT | September 8, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”288529″]Couldn’t disagree more on the Virginia throwbacks. The old Virginia uni was not flashy, which made it a great college football uniform. I always liked the colors and especially the helmet striping. I was glad to see the school break them out again. Tos. Jefferson would be proud.[/quote]

    He just wouldn’t be very proud of the suppression of speech going on at UVA at the moment.

    (Once again, another link inside a sentence doesn’t work)

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”288514″][quote comment=”288424″][quote comment=”288421″]Don’t forget the #12 stickers everyone will have to wear all season because of Brady’s injury.[/quote]

    Man, if there’s anything that provides reason for mourning in Beantown, it was seeing Brady a crumpled heap on the ground, holding his knee.

    Somehow I doubt this is going to be a “Kurt Warner takes over for Trent Green and leads the Rams to a title” scenario with Matt Cassel.[/quote]
    More like a “Tom Brady takes over for Drew Bledsoe and the Pats to a title” or do we only include QB’s with one ring?
    On another note, why did the Chiefs wear an AFL patch, or what looked like the old AFL logo?[/quote]
    The AFL logo patch was a memorial for owner/AFL founder Lamar Hunt.

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    Looks likely that #11 will be available on the Niners next year, perhaps because Alex Smith has spent more time in Dr. James Andrews waiting room than on the field.

    http://www.sacbee.co...

  • Brandon | September 8, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”288520″]Did anyone notice in the Carolina/San Diego game that Norv and the boys on the SD sidelines were wearing the baby blue alternative shirts and hats although there weren’t wearing the alternative jerseys. Could have been a heat thing as well?[/quote]

    I saw that and thought that SD should of at least worn white since Carolina was in their baby blue unis

  • James | September 8, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    Those 2016 Olympic Bid logos you linked to aren’t really “thinking ahead.” They are bid logos created by the individual cities’ olympic committees as part of their campaigns, but the actual logo for the games is designed after the city is chosen.

    This was Beijing 2008’s bid logo: http://sportslogos.n...

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”288536″]Those 2016 Olympic Bid logos you linked to aren’t really “thinking ahead.” They are bid logos created by the individual cities’ olympic committees as part of their campaigns, but the actual logo for the games is designed after the city is chosen.

    This was Beijing 2008’s bid logo: http://sportslogos.n...

    In addition, Chicago’s candidate bid was initially rejected due to the usage of the Olympic torch in their nomination logo. That is explicitly forbidden by the IOC.

  • Wise-man | September 8, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    Don’t know if this has been said already but…

    While watch college football highlights over the weekend I noticed that the Texas Longhorns football jerseys have the same “sweat-through” cut jerseys that North Carolina football jerseys have.

    Has anyone else noticed this?

  • Banker Bill | September 8, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”288504″]Some NHL stuff today to note:

    First off, check the logo at center ice in the RBC Arena for the Carolina Hurricanes. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen the logo for a brand-new alternate jersey installed on an ice surface before the normal logo has.

    The Montreal Canadiens have emblazoned their home ice with the “100 years” logo, similar to the patch they will be wearing.[/quote]

    Just seeing a clean sheet of ice like that makes me want the NHL season that much more. I like the logo in Carolina, but the Montreal ice looks a little too cluttered to me. Anyone else think so?

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”288539″][quote comment=”288504″]Some NHL stuff today to note:

    First off, check the logo at center ice in the RBC Arena for the Carolina Hurricanes. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen the logo for a brand-new alternate jersey installed on an ice surface before the normal logo has.

    The Montreal Canadiens have emblazoned their home ice with the “100 years” logo, similar to the patch they will be wearing.[/quote]

    Just seeing a clean sheet of ice like that makes me want the NHL season that much more. I like the logo in Carolina, but the Montreal ice looks a little too cluttered to me. Anyone else think so?[/quote]

    Ford, McDonald’s, ViaRail, and Molson Ex were there last season as well. They are the Canadiens’ corporate sponsors.

  • Robb | September 8, 2008 at 3:25 pm |

    I liked the little article about the high school football helmets, even though we kept it pretty simple . The uniforms were not as original. Of course it was blue on blue at home and originally white on red on the road but it changed to white on blue my senior year. I think they tried blue on red, but I never got a good look at it.
    We actually had some reasoning behind the Falcon’s pattern, but thats because Kevin Shaffer who played for CV years before he was drafted by and played for the Falcons.

  • timmy b | September 8, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    A little trivia on the Bears white pants (I know I mentioned this elsewhere, but I think it does bear (haw haw) repeating):

    The Bears white pants with the navy-orange-navy side stripes have been worn – with only slight width variation – every season since 1941. It is the longest running unaltered pro football uniform design. 68 years and counting.

  • Jeff | September 8, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    Shorpy hit a triple today:

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    http://www.shorpy.co...

    http://www.shorpy.co... (not much uni-wise, but it is the Bambino)

  • Kevin M. | September 8, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”288542″]A little trivia on the Bears white pants (I know I mentioned this elsewhere, but I think it does bear (haw haw) repeating):

    The Bears white pants with the navy-orange-navy side stripes have been worn – with only slight width variation – every season since 1941. It is the longest running unaltered pro football uniform design. 68 years and counting.[/quote]

    How can something have a slight width variation but still be unaltered? If they messed with the stripes that is technically altering the pants.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    The Colts really need to go back to this sock design:

    http://www.sportslog...

    I remember when they bused this out a few years back and it just looked so…… right.

  • timmy b | September 8, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”288545″][quote comment=”288542″]A little trivia on the Bears white pants (I know I mentioned this elsewhere, but I think it does bear (haw haw) repeating):

    The Bears white pants with the navy-orange-navy side stripes have been worn – with only slight width variation – every season since 1941. It is the longest running unaltered pro football uniform design. 68 years and counting.[/quote]

    How can something have a slight width variation but still be unaltered? If they messed with the stripes that is technically altering the pants.[/quote]

    BASICALLY unaltered, sorry :(

    May I be fed to a pack of starving jackals immediately for this felony

  • TJ Gaines | September 8, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    It looks like the new Buffalo Sabres “heritage” 3rd jersey has been leaked.

    http://icethetics.bl...

    Good thing I finally got my Winter Classic Home Jersey on Friday!

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 4:00 pm |

    Is it really a throwback is if it has the “Reebok” wordmark on the sleeve……?

    http://www.footballf...

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”288548″]It looks like the new Buffalo Sabres “heritage” 3rd jersey has been leaked.

    http://icethetics.bl...

    Good thing I finally got my Winter Classic Home Jersey on Friday![/quote]

    I wouldn’t take that as being gospel until the actual unveiling. There are a ton of people who mocked up jerseys in response to the hideous “Buffa-slug” or Barney Rubble’s Hairpiece.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    An Adrian Peterson alternate jersey with the old NFL shield on the neckline and tag:

    http://www.footballf...

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    How can such a snappy dresser be such a horrible, horrible coach?

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”288545″][quote comment=”288542″]A little trivia on the Bears white pants (I know I mentioned this elsewhere, but I think it does bear (haw haw) repeating):

    The Bears white pants with the navy-orange-navy side stripes have been worn – with only slight width variation – every season since 1941. It is the longest running unaltered pro football uniform design. 68 years and counting.[/quote]

    How can something have a slight width variation but still be unaltered? If they messed with the stripes that is technically altering the pants.[/quote]

    Okay, let’s all agree the only alteration has been the width of the striping (other than that the pants now also are shorter and tighter and have been made from various different fabrics along the way…duh).

    Timmy B was talking about the color scheme and basic design. Obviously his point was that the Bears’ white pants with a navy-orange-navy tricolor stripe pattern have been around since before Pearl Harbor.

    He made a great and interesting point. Enough with the nitpicking, already.

    —Ricko

  • TJ Gaines | September 8, 2008 at 4:08 pm |

    If you go to the Sabres webpage (sabres.nhl.com) it has a teaser set up with the neck-line and part of the shoulder. Also on the page on the right margin there’s a another hint of it on the “puck-drop” event for the 20th.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote]I would like to find out what they did when Pete Rozelle died.[/quote]

    here

  • TJ Gaines | September 8, 2008 at 4:09 pm |

    And usually the Reebok logo appears on the players left (from the image shown right) cuff.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 4:10 pm |

    Great line just busted out by Chris Mortensen on ESPN regarding the Tom Brady injury:

    “The {National Football] League office has said this is bad for the league, it’s bad for the networks, it’s bad for ESPN… and certainly it’s bad for the Patriots and Tom Brady.”

    Nice to see they have their priorities straight…

  • Kevin M. | September 8, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”288557″]Great line just busted out by Chris Mortensen on ESPN regarding the Tom Brady injury:

    “The {National Football] League office has said this is bad for the league, it’s bad for the networks, it’s bad for ESPN… and certainly it’s bad for the Patriots and Tom Brady.”

    Nice to see they have their priorities straight…[/quote]

    No it’s not (to all of them). Here comes the sticker.

  • Dave from Jersey | September 8, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    Article in today’s Bergen Record about the laundromat that cleans the Jets, Giants, Eagles, and Nets jerseys. Quotes from Joe Skiba too.

    http://www.northjers...

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”288554″]If you go to the Sabres webpage (sabres.nhl.com) it has a teaser set up with the neck-line and part of the shoulder. Also on the page on the right margin there’s a another hint of it on the “puck-drop” event for the 20th.[/quote]

    But again, there’s no guarantee that the jersey on Icethetics is correct. The stripes go completely against the Rbk EDGE template, and there are no numbers on the front shoulder like they had on their previous alternates.

    While I’m not saying it definitely is not the new alternate, there have been so many mock-ups and designs thrown around that I’m not buying into anything until it comes from the horse’s (read: team’s) mouth.

  • Kevin M. | September 8, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.

  • Banker Bill | September 8, 2008 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”288561″]Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.[/quote]

    Does it make me an evil person if I admit that my first reaction to Brady getting hurt was pure laughter?

    There are players in every sport who if given the chance you just want to beat with a wiffle bat until your arms go numb – Brady is one of those guys for me. Sidney Crosby too. Interesting to know who everyone would put on that list.

  • Kevin M. | September 8, 2008 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”288562″][quote comment=”288561″]Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.[/quote]

    Does it make me an evil person if I admit that my first reaction to Brady getting hurt was pure laughter?

    There are players in every sport who if given the chance you just want to beat with a wiffle bat until your arms go numb – Brady is one of those guys for me. Sidney Crosby too. Interesting to know who everyone would put on that list.[/quote]

    Nah I don’t think so cause that was my reaction…I have said many times I wish someone would take so and so and break their leg or crack their head open. Seems only media and Pats fans are sad he is out.

  • GB | September 8, 2008 at 4:33 pm |

    Ditto to all others who think the GU patch was too big and basically looked like shit on every uni. I suppose it may look OK on the Raiders jersey. Don’t get me wrong – GU the man did a job for the players – but that patch on all unis, all year? I’d rather they keep the GU on the field all year and dump the patch. Agreed on the Colts too. Beautiful, classic uni, totally ruined by patch-o-mania. *sigh*

  • TJ Gaines | September 8, 2008 at 4:33 pm |

    Upon a closer examination of the picture the material changes on the arms much like the edge jerseys do as well as the “rbk hockey” label appearing around the inner neck-line of the jersey.

  • GB | September 8, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    Forgot – I also was perplexed by all the white-at-home looks yesterday. As a Skins fan, I’m used to seeing white at home, but the Pats? Ravens? Chargers? Who is next? Packers? Raiders? Blech.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”288563″][quote comment=”288562″][quote comment=”288561″]Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.[/quote]

    Does it make me an evil person if I admit that my first reaction to Brady getting hurt was pure laughter?

    There are players in every sport who if given the chance you just want to beat with a wiffle bat until your arms go numb – Brady is one of those guys for me. Sidney Crosby too. Interesting to know who everyone would put on that list.[/quote]

    Nah I don’t think so cause that was my reaction…I have said many times I wish someone would take so and so and break their leg or crack their head open. Seems only media and Pats fans are sad he is out.[/quote]

    On Sportscenter they said that prior to yesterday’s game, Brady had been on the injury list every week for the past 56 weeks. Then for this game he isn’t on the injury list…… and his knee gets wrecked.

    Wonder what Belichick’s reaction is going to be to that? Knowing what a mind-f—er he is, he might put his entire team on the injury report for next week. Then again, wasn’t he told by the league to stop the practice of padding the injury list as a strategy move……?

  • Ricko | September 8, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”288555″][quote]I would like to find out what they did when Pete Rozelle died.[/quote]

    here[/quote]

    Nice. Says “We’re celebrating a life”, not, “OMG, we’re so overcome with grief we simply MUST show everyone how sad we are every way possible, so they just can’t escape seeing the depth of our caring…

    “Oh, and make sure it shows up big on TV, btw.”

    Fawning. Yeah, that’s the word.

  • Teebz | September 8, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”288565″]Upon a closer examination of the picture the material changes on the arms much like the edge jerseys do as well as the “rbk hockey” label appearing around the inner neck-line of the jersey.[/quote]

    You can buy blank EDGE jerseys. This is nothing new. That’s where the mock-ups get their start from: someone tinkering with an old-style logo and a blank jersey.

  • Kek | September 8, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned before but that GU patch is really big.

    In other breaking news: The sideline official marked with the “K” vest handles the kicking footballs.

    The green dot on the back of the helmet means the player has a radio transmitter in their helmet.

    Sean Taylor died last year and some players opted to honor him.

    The refs have new uniforms.

    The red flag is the “challenge flag” the coaches are allowed to throw when they want a play reviewed by the referee in the instant replay booth.

    The AFL and the NFL merged but the USFL didn’t make it and folded when it attempted to become a fall league and compete with the NFL. (Oh, and the WFL had some wacky pants)

    The forward pass pretty much killed the single wing.

    At one time, dropkicking the ball was a popular method of attempting field goals.

    The term “final gun” refers to the end of the game when the clock stikes 0:00 but hardens back to a time when the ref literally fired a starter’s pistol to signify the end of the game.

  • Joe Drennan | September 8, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”288562″][quote comment=”288561″]Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.[/quote]

    Does it make me an evil person if I admit that my first reaction to Brady getting hurt was pure laughter?

    There are players in every sport who if given the chance you just want to beat with a wiffle bat until your arms go numb – Brady is one of those guys for me. Sidney Crosby too. Interesting to know who everyone would put on that list.[/quote]

    My wife mentioned Brady being hurt was carma coming abck to get him. I replied, “well ya, with the team cheating and all that.” She looked at me perplexed and said, “No, because he’s a bad person who cheats on his pregnant girlfriend.”

    That’s when I remembered pretty boy Brady is in all her girly magazines and that’s the only reason she can pick him out of a line-up.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”288571″]My wife mentioned Brady being hurt was carma coming abck to get him. I replied, “well ya, with the team cheating and all that.” She looked at me perplexed and said, “No, because he’s a bad person who cheats on his pregnant girlfriend.”

    That’s when I remembered pretty boy Brady is in all her girly magazines and that’s the only reason she can pick him out of a line-up.[/quote]

    Maybe now that he has all this time on his hands, he can spend some quality time with his kid. Unless Tommy Boy considers signing child support checks as “quality time”.

  • Greg V. | September 8, 2008 at 4:59 pm |

    This has got to be some of the worst logo creep I have ever seen.

    http://www.eastbay.c...

    So if you order a men’s replica jersey you actually get a replica of what is worn on the field. If you order a women’s replica jersey you get an Adidas billboard. Pathetic.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”288573″]This has got to be some of the worst logo creep I have ever seen.

    http://www.eastbay.c...

    So if you order a men’s replica jersey you actually get a replica of what is worn on the field. If you order a women’s replica jersey you get an Adidas billboard. Pathetic.[/quote]

    Link is not working……

  • Greg V. | September 8, 2008 at 5:02 pm |

    Oops. Try this one…

    http://www.eastbay.c...

  • Greg V. | September 8, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    Okay. No links I guess.

    Anyway, Adidas felt the need to run their Three Strips down the sides of the women’s replica jerseys for Michigan, Wisconsin, ND, UCLA, Tennessee, and Nebraska. Looks ugly and is obvoiusly not like what is worn on the field.

  • Chris | September 8, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”288562″][quote comment=”288561″]Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.[/quote]

    Does it make me an evil person if I admit that my first reaction to Brady getting hurt was pure laughter?

    There are players in every sport who if given the chance you just want to beat with a wiffle bat until your arms go numb – Brady is one of those guys for me. Sidney Crosby too. Interesting to know who everyone would put on that list.[/quote]
    I would not put Brady on my list as I live in Mass., but I would add the Manning Brothers, Chad “I can’t believe a judge let him do this” Ocho Cinco, Guy Carbonneau, Ozzie Guillen, Joe Maddon, Jonny “The Goon” Gomes, the entire Tampa Bay Rays team, and Pau Gasol.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”288577″]I would not put Brady on my list as I live in Mass., but I would add the Manning Brothers, Chad “I can’t believe a judge let him do this” Ocho Cinco, Guy Carbonneau, Ozzie Guillen, Joe Maddon, Jonny “The Goon” Gomes, the entire Tampa Bay Rays team, and Pau Gasol.[/quote]

    The Manning brothers……? Pourquoi?

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”288577″][quote comment=”288562″][quote comment=”288561″]Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.[/quote]

    Does it make me an evil person if I admit that my first reaction to Brady getting hurt was pure laughter?

    There are players in every sport who if given the chance you just want to beat with a wiffle bat until your arms go numb – Brady is one of those guys for me. Sidney Crosby too. Interesting to know who everyone would put on that list.[/quote]
    I would not put Brady on my list as I live in Mass., but I would add the Manning Brothers, Chad “I can’t believe a judge let him do this” Ocho Cinco, Guy Carbonneau, Ozzie Guillen, Joe Maddon, Jonny “The Goon” Gomes, the entire Tampa Bay Rays team, and Pau Gasol.[/quote]

    a-rod, romo…michael phelps…nadal…
    villegas

  • Chris | September 8, 2008 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”288578″][quote comment=”288577″]I would not put Brady on my list as I live in Mass., but I would add the Manning Brothers, Chad “I can’t believe a judge let him do this” Ocho Cinco, Guy Carbonneau, Ozzie Guillen, Joe Maddon, Jonny “The Goon” Gomes, the entire Tampa Bay Rays team, and Pau Gasol.[/quote]

    The Manning brothers……? Pourquoi?[/quote]
    They’re media whores and will attach their names to anything if the price is right, at least Brady did a commercial with his teammates.

  • Justin | September 8, 2008 at 5:23 pm |

    I was cruising around Deadspin today and came across this new take of the OKC Thunder logo:

    http://benditlikeben...

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”288580″]The Manning brothers……? Pourquoi?

    They’re media whores and will attach their names to anything if the price is right, at least Brady did a commercial with his teammates.[/quote]

    Well Peyton has his fair share of commercials, but I haven’t really seen Eli in anything, save for that ESPN commercial with his brother.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 5:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”288582″][quote comment=”288580″]The Manning brothers……? Pourquoi?

    They’re media whores and will attach their names to anything if the price is right, at least Brady did a commercial with his teammates.[/quote]

    Well Peyton has his fair share of commercials, but I haven’t really seen Eli in anything, save for that ESPN commercial with his brother.[/quote]

    and about six oreo DSRL ones

  • Justin in AR | September 8, 2008 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”288582″][quote comment=”288580″]The Manning brothers……? Pourquoi?

    They’re media whores and will attach their names to anything if the price is right, at least Brady did a commercial with his teammates.[/quote]

    Well Peyton has his fair share of commercials, but I haven’t really seen Eli in anything, save for that ESPN commercial with his brother.[/quote]

    I’ve only seen three Eli commercials. One was Gatorade, one was for Oreo and the other was an ESPN deal with the entire Manning family. The Oreo commerical may or may not have had Peyton in it as well. I can’t remember now. But he has done fewer than his brother, that’s for sure.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”288583″][quote comment=”288582″][quote comment=”288580″]The Manning brothers……? Pourquoi?

    They’re media whores and will attach their names to anything if the price is right, at least Brady did a commercial with his teammates.[/quote]

    Well Peyton has his fair share of commercials, but I haven’t really seen Eli in anything, save for that ESPN commercial with his brother.[/quote]

    and about six oreo DSRL ones[/quote]

    Fair enough.

    Given my preference, I would rather hate on the guy whose team got caught cheating and whose head coach tried to pass off some lame-ass excuse after he got caught than the country bumpkins who make commercials. But that’s just me.

  • Justin in AR | September 8, 2008 at 5:46 pm |

    Because we are talking about Manning brothers and Brady, check this out:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Scroll down to the middle of the page where it says “Week In Pictures”. The photo in particular being labeled, “Hey! It’s the guy from all of those commericals!”

    The others are nice, as well.

  • Chris | September 8, 2008 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”288585″][quote comment=”288583″][quote comment=”288582″][quote comment=”288580″]The Manning brothers……? Pourquoi?

    They’re media whores and will attach their names to anything if the price is right, at least Brady did a commercial with his teammates.[/quote]

    Well Peyton has his fair share of commercials, but I haven’t really seen Eli in anything, save for that ESPN commercial with his brother.[/quote]

    and about six oreo DSRL ones[/quote]

    Fair enough.

    Given my preference, I would rather hate on the guy whose team got caught cheating and whose head coach tried to pass off some lame-ass excuse after he got caught than the country bumpkins who make commercials. But that’s just me.[/quote]
    Maybe we can chalk it up to regional differences and leave it at that?

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 6:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”288587″][quote comment=”288585″][quote comment=”288583″][quote comment=”288582″][quote comment=”288580″]The Manning brothers……? Pourquoi?

    They’re media whores and will attach their names to anything if the price is right, at least Brady did a commercial with his teammates.[/quote]

    Well Peyton has his fair share of commercials, but I haven’t really seen Eli in anything, save for that ESPN commercial with his brother.[/quote]

    and about six oreo DSRL ones[/quote]

    Fair enough.

    Given my preference, I would rather hate on the guy whose team got caught cheating and whose head coach tried to pass off some lame-ass excuse after he got caught than the country bumpkins who make commercials. But that’s just me.[/quote]
    Maybe we can chalk it up to regional differences and leave it at that?[/quote]

    Regional differences, differences in theories of cheating and how to get away with it, whatever you want to call it. Trust me, New Yorkers have their fair share of hatred to spread around. Hell, it happens between the two New York baseball clubs on a regular basis.

    In all honesty, though, I don’t think I’ve ever had that “I hate that guy so much I’m glad his knee got blown out” hatred towards anyone. I mean, guys piss me off i.e. when Jimmy Rollins made his “we’re the team to beat” proclamation and then backed it up. But, hell, he talked the talk and he walked the walk. What are you going to do?

    I mean, if he would have gotten hurt during the course of the year, I wouldn’t have shed a tear, but I never actually felt that “if I ever meet Jimmy Rollins I’m going to punch his face in” type of animus that so many sports fan(atic)s seem to have.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 6:26 pm |

    [quote]I mean, guys piss me off i.e. when Jimmy Rollins made his “we’re the team to beat” proclamation and then backed it up. But, hell, he talked the talk and he walked the walk. What are you going to do?

    I mean, if he would have gotten hurt during the course of the year, I wouldn’t have shed a tear, but I never actually felt that “if I ever meet Jimmy Rollins I’m going to punch his face in” type of animus that so many sports fan(atic)s seem to have.[/quote

    wow…mr. met…a guy i work with and i were JUST talking about rollins in a similar manner today (he’s a jankee fan, and it wasn’t until today he officially declared his season done…poor bastid…it was over before pavano ever stopped in to say “look…im better, lets talk contract”)

    anyhoo…i described rollins in much the same way…but you know what…i’d ask him to play second for “us” in a heartbeat…he’s the kind of player ya love to hate, but you’d love to have him just the same

  • timmy b | September 8, 2008 at 6:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”288553″][quote comment=”288545″][quote comment=”288542″]A little trivia on the Bears white pants (I know I mentioned this elsewhere, but I think it does bear (haw haw) repeating):

    The Bears white pants with the navy-orange-navy side stripes have been worn – with only slight width variation – every season since 1941. It is the longest running unaltered pro football uniform design. 68 years and counting.[/quote]

    How can something have a slight width variation but still be unaltered? If they messed with the stripes that is technically altering the pants.[/quote]

    Okay, let’s all agree the only alteration has been the width of the striping (other than that the pants now also are shorter and tighter and have been made from various different fabrics along the way…duh).

    Timmy B was talking about the color scheme and basic design. Obviously his point was that the Bears’ white pants with a navy-orange-navy tricolor stripe pattern have been around since before Pearl Harbor.

    He made a great and interesting point. Enough with the nitpicking, already.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko,

    You have dignity and class. Thank you, my man.

    BTW, the jackals let me me be. Something about a high fat content not being good for their diet.

    TB

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 6:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”288589″]I mean, guys piss me off i.e. when Jimmy Rollins made his “we’re the team to beat” proclamation and then backed it up. But, hell, he talked the talk and he walked the walk. What are you going to do?

    I mean, if he would have gotten hurt during the course of the year, I wouldn’t have shed a tear, but I never actually felt that “if I ever meet Jimmy Rollins I’m going to punch his face in” type of animus that so many sports fan(atic)s seem to have.[/quote]

    wow…mr. met…a guy i work with and i were JUST talking about rollins in a similar manner today (he’s a jankee fan, and it wasn’t until today he officially declared his season done…poor bastid…it was over before pavano ever stopped in to say “look…im better, lets talk contract”)

    anyhoo…i described rollins in much the same way…but you know what…i’d ask him to play second for “us” in a heartbeat…he’s the kind of player ya love to hate, but you’d love to have him just the same

    *now fixed*

  • KT | September 8, 2008 at 6:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”288570″]I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned before but that GU patch is really big.

    In other breaking news: The sideline official marked with the “K” vest handles the kicking footballs.

    The green dot on the back of the helmet means the player has a radio transmitter in their helmet.

    Sean Taylor died last year and some players opted to honor him.

    The refs have new uniforms.

    The red flag is the “challenge flag” the coaches are allowed to throw when they want a play reviewed by the referee in the instant replay booth.

    The AFL and the NFL merged but the USFL didn’t make it and folded when it attempted to become a fall league and compete with the NFL. (Oh, and the WFL had some wacky pants)

    The forward pass pretty much killed the single wing.

    At one time, dropkicking the ball was a popular method of attempting field goals.

    The term “final gun” refers to the end of the game when the clock stikes 0:00 but hardens back to a time when the ref literally fired a starter’s pistol to signify the end of the game.[/quote]

    You forgot the definition of “walk-off,” but everything else is solid.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 6:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”288591″]”…it was over before pavano ever stopped in to say “look…im better, lets talk contract”[/quote]

    And the sad part is that someone is going to give him a contract based on his “resurgence” of this year. Call me cynical, but the guy has just collected paycheck after paycheck for the first three years, and now he starts to pitch like a stud?

    Geez, if there’s anyone that deserves hatred of the “I wish his rotator cuff would explode” kind it should be Carl Pavano.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 6:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”288593″][quote comment=”288591″]”…it was over before pavano ever stopped in to say “look…im better, lets talk contract”[/quote]

    And the sad part is that someone is going to give him a contract based on his “resurgence” of this year.[/quote]

    that someone better not be named ‘omar’

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 6:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”288595″]that someone better not be named ‘omar'[/quote]

    Well, that proposition is 50-50, considering the guy’s last name is “Pavano” and not “Martinez”, “Rodriguez” or “Diaz”…

    Let the hatred begin! And for the record, I’m Hispanic myself.

  • Mr. Met | September 8, 2008 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”288594″]So the Brewers putting their TEAM (not some company or sponsor) logo on the mound is embarassing?

    Paul, I think “embarassing” is stealing money with that scam of a “membership program” like you did.

    You are a hayseed and you suck at life.[/quote]

    “Hayseed” and “sucking at life”. Haven’t heard that in a while. Wow.

    I never had a problem with the “M” or various team logos on the mound. The website starts to get a little bit overboard. But I can totally see the aversion towards doing it; eventually, a team is going to find a way to put something not team-related on the pitching mound.

    Same thing goes for the “mowing the team logo into the outfield”. Again, it doesn’t bother me one bit but I can see how it could bother others because it could eventually lead to corporate sponsorship on the field in the future.

    After all, look at how many advertisements are plastered on outfield walls nowadays, something that in the not-too distant past was probably (a) unthinkable and (b) would probably have been met with indignation. Nowadays it’s common practice.

    At least the masses spoke in unison about despising the “Spider-Man’ logo on bases, so maybe not all is lost.

  • tmac3217 | September 8, 2008 at 6:59 pm |

    I’m torn on the Bears socks. I’m not a fan of the white socks with the white pants — but the stripes on the white socks match the stripes on the sleeves of the white jerseys. And of course the stripes on the blue socks match the stripes on the blue jerseys. Ugh – the agony.

  • Johnny O | September 8, 2008 at 7:06 pm |

    Packers are sticking with the “end zone slashes” like they did last year to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Lambeau Field. I thought this was supposed to be a one year thing and then go back to putting “Packers” and “Green Bay” back in the end zone. Anyone hear why this is?

    Not that I am complaining…I love the look.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 7:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”288597″]look at how many advertisements are plastered on outfield walls nowadays, something that in the not-too distant past was probably (a) unthinkable and (b) would probably have been met with indignation. Nowadays it’s common practice.[/quote]

    fair point, but advertisements on the outfield walls were commonplace years ago

    then…for a good number of years…they disappeared…only to reappear…uglier than ever

    ….

    btw…how’s this for a “mowed logo into the grass”???

  • Branon | September 8, 2008 at 7:23 pm |

    brett favre already had his chinstrap off while he was throwing the ball. paul talked about that a few months ago

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 7:37 pm |

    How big are the GU patches? On Ryan Grant of the Packers, it covers up part of the 5 on the front of his jersey and part of the 2 on his shoulder number. Yup. That’s a big patch.

  • Korch | September 8, 2008 at 7:45 pm |

    The Pack in black shoes!

  • Dobber | September 8, 2008 at 7:46 pm |

    On the Olympics logos, cities are allowed to create a logo for the bid process. Recently, a rule was passed that said bid logos cannot include the Olympic rings or any other games-related imagery. Chicago, for example, had to change their bid logo because the original version included the Olympic flame. If a city wins the games, they have to scrap the bid logo and create an actual logo for the Games.

  • Stuby | September 8, 2008 at 7:47 pm |

    Al Harris is wearing the shortest football pants I have ever seen. They have to be 4-5 inches above the knee.

  • Talon Lardner | September 8, 2008 at 7:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”288600″][quote comment=”288597″]look at how many advertisements are plastered on outfield walls nowadays, something that in the not-too distant past was probably (a) unthinkable and (b) would probably have been met with indignation. Nowadays it’s common practice.[/quote]

    fair point, but advertisements on the outfield walls were commonplace years ago

    then…for a good number of years…they disappeared…only to reappear…uglier than ever

    ….

    btw…how’s this for a “mowed logo into the grass”???[/quote]

    I was about to say something like this. Advertising is actually a lot older than we think it is in our culture. Take a peek at some “classic” television, for instance, I seen a really old game show on the Game Show recently from the very beginnings of broadcast television, and the whole thing was sponsored like crazy.

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 7:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”288602″]How big are the GU patches? On Ryan Grant of the Packers, it covers up part of the 5 on the front of his jersey and part of the 2 on his shoulder number. Yup. That’s a big patch.[/quote]

    i was thinking the exact same thing…

    how about we put the patch right here

    think tha’d fly?

  • Talon Lardner | September 8, 2008 at 8:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”288607″][quote comment=”288602″]How big are the GU patches? On Ryan Grant of the Packers, it covers up part of the 5 on the front of his jersey and part of the 2 on his shoulder number. Yup. That’s a big patch.[/quote]

    i was thinking the exact same thing…

    how about we put the patch right here

    think tha’d fly?[/quote]

    If only that sleeve existed on linemen instead of being tucked and tailored out of existance…

  • Beardface | September 8, 2008 at 8:36 pm |

    Rumor in Blacksburg is that Virginia Tech will be wearing orange jerseys for the first time since 1995 vs Georgia Tech this weekend. This was actually hinted to by Frank Beamer on the call-in show tonight…

    So in other words, if you’re on the East Coast, avoid ABC from 3:30 pm till around 7:00 pm this Saturday.

  • DenverGregg | September 8, 2008 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”288562″][quote comment=”288561″]Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.[/quote]

    Does it make me an evil person if I admit that my first reaction to Brady getting hurt was pure laughter?

    There are players in every sport who if given the chance you just want to beat with a wiffle bat until your arms go numb – Brady is one of those guys for me. Sidney Crosby too. Interesting to know who everyone would put on that list.[/quote]
    David Ortiz, Dominik Hasek, Pavel Datsyuk, Manny Ramirez, Jeff Kent, Eric Byrnes, Randy Johnson, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Ray Lewis, Todd Bertuzzi, Papelbon . . .

  • LI Phil | September 8, 2008 at 8:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”288609″]Rumor in Blacksburg is that Virginia Tech will be wearing orange jerseys for the first time since 1995 vs Georgia Tech this weekend.[/quote]

    god please tell me it won’t look like this

  • Beardface | September 8, 2008 at 9:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”288611″][quote comment=”288609″]Rumor in Blacksburg is that Virginia Tech will be wearing orange jerseys for the first time since 1995 vs Georgia Tech this weekend.[/quote]

    god please tell me it won’t look like this[/quote]

    even better

  • Beardface | September 8, 2008 at 9:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”288612″][quote comment=”288611″][quote comment=”288609″]Rumor in Blacksburg is that Virginia Tech will be wearing orange jerseys for the first time since 1995 vs Georgia Tech this weekend.[/quote]

    god please tell me it won’t look like this[/quote]

    even better[/quote]
    http://images.footba...

  • Tony Miller | September 8, 2008 at 9:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”288611″]
    god please tell me it won’t look like this[/quote]
    or this

  • Lucy | September 8, 2008 at 10:38 pm |

    JaMarcus Russell going with the one-sleeve look tonight….

  • MPowers1634 | September 8, 2008 at 11:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”288616″]JaMarcus Russell going with the one-sleeve look tonight….[/quote]

    The NFL FINE Police are going to be ALL OVER the Raiders.

    All of their DB’s as well as one of their linebackers are not only wearing all black socks, but black cleats, including DUMBASS D’Angelo Hall who just picked up two Personal fouls in obe drive.

    Oh, and JaMarcus Russell is playing as bad as he looks and has looked:
    http://img100.images...

    The Raiders are the 2007 Devil Rays of the NFL!

  • Glenn | September 8, 2008 at 11:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”288551″]An Adrian Peterson alternate jersey with the old NFL shield on the neckline and tag:

    http://www.footballf...

    I see THAT jersey, and I immediately think the nameplate should read “RASHAD”

  • Patrick S. | September 9, 2008 at 12:17 am |

    Perhaps the NFL should have taken a clue from Idaho and put that GU patch…oh never mind.

  • Ricko | September 9, 2008 at 12:31 am |

    [quote comment=”288618″][quote comment=”288551″]An Adrian Peterson alternate jersey with the old NFL shield on the neckline and tag:

    http://www.footballf...

    I see THAT jersey, and I immediately think the nameplate should read “RASHAD”[/quote]

    And that 44 Thomas Tapeh is wearing should read “FOREMAN”.

  • Ricko | September 9, 2008 at 12:37 am |

    [quote comment=”288603″]The Pack in black shoes![/quote]

    Must be something like 35 years since we saw that.

  • Ricko | September 9, 2008 at 12:58 am |

    [quote comment=”288620″]Perhaps the NFL should have taken a clue from Idaho and put that GU patch…oh never mind.[/quote]

    I was thinking earlier today they should save that spot for when the time comes to honor Dave Butz.

  • The Hemogoblin | September 9, 2008 at 2:21 am |

    [quote comment=”288531″]THAT’S ME![/quote]

    Post of the day.

  • The Hemogoblin | September 9, 2008 at 2:29 am |

    [quote comment=”288577″][quote comment=”288562″][quote comment=”288561″]Idea for the “Fallen Brady” sticker…a purple heart with 12 on the inside.[/quote]

    Does it make me an evil person if I admit that my first reaction to Brady getting hurt was pure laughter?

    There are players in every sport who if given the chance you just want to beat with a wiffle bat until your arms go numb – Brady is one of those guys for me. Sidney Crosby too. Interesting to know who everyone would put on that list.[/quote]
    I would not put Brady on my list as I live in Mass., but I would add the Manning Brothers, Chad “I can’t believe a judge let him do this” Ocho Cinco, Guy Carbonneau, Ozzie Guillen, Joe Maddon, Jonny “The Goon” Gomes, the entire Tampa Bay Rays team, and Pau Gasol.[/quote]

    Let’s see:

    Bill Belichick, Rodney Harrison, Brett Favre, Ricky Williams, the entire NFC East excepting Reuben Droughns (who gave his letterman’s jacket to a homeless woman), Kellen Winslow (either of them), Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, Frederic Weis, Vince Carter, Clay Bennett, Bill Bavasi, the Tribune Company, the New York Yankees (ESPECIALLY A-ROD), the St. Louis Cardinals, Arena Football, Gary Bettman, Jurgen Klinsmann, any Mexican soccer player, Zidane, Ronaldinho, Stockton-to-Malone, and anyone I forgot, they know who they are.

  • Spiel-dich-schön » letztes Mal - Spiel mit Opfern | September 9, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    […] spiel.werden Othos wirkliche Ansichten deutlich. Ertappt? Und dann “Angriff ist die beste Verteidigung”? > Die Standards, die z.B. in den Genfer Konventionen verankert sind, > ist Israel (ganz ohne meine Mitwirkung) freiwillig eingegangen (wie > es sich für zivilisierte Staaten ziemt). > > http://www.icrc.org/... > ntions de Geneve et Protocoles additionnels ENG.pdf > > Der Vorbehalt… > > [R/D = Reservation/Declaration : unilateral statement, however > phrased or named, made by a State when ratifying, acceding or > succeeding to a treaty, whereby it purports to exclude or to modify > the legal effect of certain provisions of the treaty in their > application to that State (provided that such reservations are not > incompatible with the object and purpose of the treaty).] > > …ändert an der Verpflichtung nichts. Wenn man mit der Moral nicht mehr weiterkommt, kommt man mit Gesetzen? Ausserdem ist ein geposter link keine Diskussionsgrundlage. Diese Genfer Vereinbarungen wurden getroffen, um die Barbarei im Krieg abzuschaffen. Wenn da wer nicht unterschreiben würde, *weil* er gerne barbarisch Krieg führt z.B., meinst du die Unterzeichnenden wären dann verpflichet, sich an die Konvention *unter allen Umständen* zu halten? Moralisch kann das nicht sein, dass das *verlangt* wird. Siehe mein voriges Beispiel mit “A” und “B”. Ausserdem kann es nicht sein, dass eine Konvention, die barbarischen Krieg ächten will, einer barbarisch kriegführenden Partei dienlich ist. Du hättest natürlich recht, wenn du den Israelis Grossmut und Ehrenhaftigkeit für das Verschonen ihrer barbarischen Feinde attestieren könntest, wenn sie es täten. > > Natürlich liegt die Messlatte für die anderen höher, damit sie > > benachteiligt werden. > > Du betrachtest es also als “Nachteil”, nicht so vorzugehen, wie die > Terroristen, nicht die gleichen “Techniken” anzuwenden, nicht > Gleiches mit Gleichem zu vergelten. Nein, es ist kein Nachteil und muss auch keiner sein. Ausserdem machen sich die Israelis nicht die Methoden der Hisbollah zu eigen. Das ist doch offensichtlich und ich glaube darüber muss man gar nicht diskutieren. > Den Vernichtungsabsichten der Gegenseite bezüglich Israel, würdest du > also ganz gerne eigene Vernichtungsabsichten entgegenstellen. Nein. Es ging um eine rein moralische Frage. Du aber gehst hier sofort an das oberste Limit, welches ich gar nicht in Betracht zog, nämlich “Gleichheit der Methoden” (die du sogar im Konflikt selbst sehen willst) und schliesst dann von den Absichten der Hisbollah (deren Vernichtungsabsichten du nie vorher berücksichtigt hast) locker aus dem Handgelenk auf “meine Absichten”, die gleich seien. > Langsam > begreife ich auch deine antiamerikanische Einstellung. Du betrachtest > die USA als Hindernis auf dem Weg zu einer vollständigen ethnischen > Säuberung der sog. “besetzten Gebiete” o.ä. Dir kann wohl keine Idee absurd genug sein? > … Daß du einen Widerspruch konstruierst, an > dem du meine angeblich “Bigotterie” festmachst, um dich um Antworten > auf meine Fragen herumzudrücken, ist Aussage genug. Der Widerspruch ist einfach zu offensichtlich gewesen. Das war der Sinn meines ersten postings, leider hast du das nicht eingesehen. […]

  • Zach | September 10, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    This is a site I found with likes to mand good links to helmet projects.

    http://www.misterhab...

  • Chad G | September 10, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    Wow Paul, considering you are a Mets fan your headline (Sept. 10) today is in considerable bad taste. We Met fans are already a paranoid fanbase, there is no need for the HGH comment about Delgado.

  • MPowers1634 | September 11, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”288690″][…] spiel.werden Othos wirkliche Ansichten deutlich. Ertappt? Und dann “Angriff ist die beste Verteidigung”? > Die Standards, die z.B. in den Genfer Konventionen verankert sind, > ist Israel (ganz ohne meine Mitwirkung) freiwillig eingegangen (wie > es sich für zivilisierte Staaten ziemt). > > http://www.icrc.org/... > ntions de Geneve et Protocoles additionnels ENG.pdf > > Der Vorbehalt… > > [R/D = Reservation/Declaration : unilateral statement, however > phrased or named, made by a State when ratifying, acceding or > succeeding to a treaty, whereby it purports to exclude or to modify > the legal effect of certain provisions of the treaty in their > application to that State (provided that such reservations are not > incompatible with the object and purpose of the treaty).] > > …ändert an der Verpflichtung nichts. Wenn man mit der Moral nicht mehr weiterkommt, kommt man mit Gesetzen? Ausserdem ist ein geposter link keine Diskussionsgrundlage. Diese Genfer Vereinbarungen wurden getroffen, um die Barbarei im Krieg abzuschaffen. Wenn da wer nicht unterschreiben würde, *weil* er gerne barbarisch Krieg führt z.B., meinst du die Unterzeichnenden wären dann verpflichet, sich an die Konvention *unter allen Umständen* zu halten? Moralisch kann das nicht sein, dass das *verlangt* wird. Siehe mein voriges Beispiel mit “A” und “B”. Ausserdem kann es nicht sein, dass eine Konvention, die barbarischen Krieg ächten will, einer barbarisch kriegführenden Partei dienlich ist. Du hättest natürlich recht, wenn du den Israelis Grossmut und Ehrenhaftigkeit für das Verschonen ihrer barbarischen Feinde attestieren könntest, wenn sie es täten. > > Natürlich liegt die Messlatte für die anderen höher, damit sie > > benachteiligt werden. > > Du betrachtest es also als “Nachteil”, nicht so vorzugehen, wie die > Terroristen, nicht die gleichen “Techniken” anzuwenden, nicht > Gleiches mit Gleichem zu vergelten. Nein, es ist kein Nachteil und muss auch keiner sein. Ausserdem machen sich die Israelis nicht die Methoden der Hisbollah zu eigen. Das ist doch offensichtlich und ich glaube darüber muss man gar nicht diskutieren. > Den Vernichtungsabsichten der Gegenseite bezüglich Israel, würdest du > also ganz gerne eigene Vernichtungsabsichten entgegenstellen. Nein. Es ging um eine rein moralische Frage. Du aber gehst hier sofort an das oberste Limit, welches ich gar nicht in Betracht zog, nämlich “Gleichheit der Methoden” (die du sogar im Konflikt selbst sehen willst) und schliesst dann von den Absichten der Hisbollah (deren Vernichtungsabsichten du nie vorher berücksichtigt hast) locker aus dem Handgelenk auf “meine Absichten”, die gleich seien. > Langsam > begreife ich auch deine antiamerikanische Einstellung. Du betrachtest > die USA als Hindernis auf dem Weg zu einer vollständigen ethnischen > Säuberung der sog. “besetzten Gebiete” o.ä. Dir kann wohl keine Idee absurd genug sein? > … Daß du einen Widerspruch konstruierst, an > dem du meine angeblich “Bigotterie” festmachst, um dich um Antworten > auf meine Fragen herumzudrücken, ist Aussage genug. Der Widerspruch ist einfach zu offensichtlich gewesen. Das war der Sinn meines ersten postings, leider hast du das nicht eingesehen. […][/quote]

    Upon hearing that Tom Bradywas out for the season and would have to forfeit his salary, a reporter asked Gisselle if she would stand by her man. This was her response: