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My Only Gripe: Zero Sightings of Tonya Harding

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Hello there.

One week, one wedding, two days of record-breaking Portland heat (one of them spent in a jacket and tie — ugh), one Uni Watch party, one astonishingly large cinnamon roll, one visit to a vacuum cleaner museum and another to a kite museum, too many hours spent shopping at various thrift and vintage shops (resulting in one very odd 1960s clock-radio-lamp purchase), many beers, one afternoon spent at a National Volcanic Monument, way too many failed attempts to pronounce “McMenamins” without stuttering, one one visit to a reader’s home, and one giant frying pan later, I’m back.

But more on all that tomorrow. Today we’ve got serious uniform news to discuss, because the Hornets unveiled their new design yesterday. Here’s the scoop:

• The team’s basic colors — blue, purple, and gold, have all been tweaked slightly. Largely irrelevant.

• The primary logo has been tweaked as well, going from this to this. I miss the white gloves, but otherwise this looks like a clear upgrade for both the illo and the typography.

• A new secondary logo has been introduced. Man, does that say, “AAA baseball” or what? What a waste. (You can see various treatments of this logo, the new primary logo, and the “fleur de bee” logo here).

• In a nod to the franchise’s original Charlotte-era design, design, the uniforms are now pinstriped — you know, because basketball players are short and need to accentuate the vertical. I’m generally fond of the new typography (compare to this) and not fond at all of the neckline and ass-crack logo positioning (it’s practically a rule now that every new design has to have these). Still if the overall effect ends up looking more or less like this NBA 2K9 leak, I’d say the world will keep on spinning. A masterpiece? No. But reasonably palatable? Yeah. (Additional details on all this can be found here.)

While we’re at it: As most of you know by now, the Timberwolves have a new design as well. Now, if you were redoing this team’s design, what’s the first thing you’d address? The illegible number font, right? The good news is that they’ve got a new typeface; the bad news is that it’s only marginally better than the last one. On the plus side, shortening the home wordmark to “Wolves” seems like a good move; on the other hand, there’s more rear-logo silliness, and the tree motif on the side panel and shorts seems forced. And c’mon, the collar just looks embarrassing.

But here’s a new wrinkle: The league invited me to participate in a conference call regarding the Minnesota uniforms on Monday. I was busy traveling but asked if they could provide me with a transcript of the call, which they did. It features some predictably rote recitations of corporate marketingspeak but also includes a fair amount of interesting inside info — much meatier than I’d expected. So I’ve posted it here. It’s lengthy, but I think you’ll find it worthwhile.

Uni Watch News Ticker: I’m late getting to this, but Mark Mihalik‘s excellent PlayerExclusive.com footwear site has some cool team recaps, plus he’s been building an excellent footwear gallery. The site is so smartly designed that even a non-footwear-obsessive like myself can dig it. Highly recommended. … Latest awesome old baseball photo from Dave Eskenazi shows the 1935 Dayton Ducks. … “I’ve been up in Wisconsin at the Chiefs’ training camp at UW-River Falls,” writes Jason Gomez. “Jon McGraw and Dustin Colquitt gave away their shoes along with autographs, which led to the players signing autographs in their socks — which turned out to be NBA socks. Also, the Chiefs have Trek bikes to get around in — pretty cool.” … Not uni-related, but fascinating all the same (thanks, Kirsten). … Wondering why some countries’ Olympic uniforms have the country names printed in English and others in foreign languages? Look here. … With college football about to start and college hoops not far behind, this is a good time to mention the excellent Pollspeak site, which covers everything related to college poll rankings. … Major NOB possibilities for the Mets, who may soon have three Reyeses on the 25-man roster. … Nyjer Morgan is back in the bigs for Pittsburgh, which means one more pair of stirrups on the diamond. Thanks to Chris Hilf for the tip, and to Bryan for the blurry screen grab. … Here’s a follow-up from Tuesday’s Air Force PT note in the Ticker, from an anonymous contributor: “I read the Ticker posting about the Air Force PT uniform, and I can say wholeheartedly that it’s true. I normally wear a large, but have it up to an XXL in order to have something that reaches mid-thigh and doesn’t feel like spandex. Either way, it reminded me of a story that might interest you. I work on the E-4, an airborne command post that the Secretary of Defense uses for overseas trips. Well, former Secretary Rumsfeld was known for wearing an Army PT coat as his ‘casual’ wear in-flight. But on a flight right after the Air Force’s new PT gear came out, a member of our crew walked up to Mr. Rumsfeld with an Air Force PT coat and asked him to wear it, because ‘we are the ones that take you where you need to go.’ From then on, he wore that coat.” Many thanks for the contribution.

 

234 comments to My Only Gripe: Zero Sightings of Tonya Harding

  • Glen | August 21, 2008 at 8:17 am |

    I have to admit I have to give props for the ingenuity of the “fleur de bee” logo

  • Jim MI (longtime poster, formally on of many Jims) | August 21, 2008 at 8:23 am |

    Does anyone else feel that MIN having ‘Wolves’ on their unis intstead of Timberwolves is the first step to offically changing their name to The Minnesota Wolves? Almost like they are using it as a feeler gauge to see if people like it. Doesn’t have the right flow if you ask me.

    As for NO unis, is there a different material for the inner legs of the shorts? By the pic there seems to be no pinstripes, wondering if it’s a different material, or if they are just lazy and didn’t put stripes on them. Also, don’t like how they made the purple line up on the shorts and the top, going to look like hell once the players start moving around, not going to line up anymore…

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 8:34 am |

    [quote comment=”285586″]Does anyone else feel that MIN having ‘Wolves’ on their unis intstead of Timberwolves is the first step to offically changing their name to The Minnesota Wolves? Almost like they are using it as a feeler gauge to see if people like it. Doesn’t have the right flow if you ask me.

    As for NO unis, is there a different material for the inner legs of the shorts? By the pic there seems to be no pinstripes, wondering if it’s a different material, or if they are just lazy and didn’t put stripes on them. Also, don’t like how they made the purple line up on the shorts and the top, going to look like hell once the players start moving around, not going to line up anymore…[/quote]

    I kinda doubt they’re thinking of shortening the nickname. “‘Wolves” is part of the verbal shorthand around here (sorta like “‘Wings” in Detroit). I imagine it’s something akin to when Cleveland had “CAVS” on their unis for a while.

    I just noticed, make that Wolves silhouette on the left solid black, add cowboy boots and you get, um…Dale Evans.

    oh, never mind, don’t get me started.

    —Ricko

  • Mark in Shiga | August 21, 2008 at 8:34 am |

    I second the disapproval of all that silly neck- and waist-area logos on today’s basketball uniforms. Particularly on the neck — dump that logo and keep the name and number as the focus of attention!

    Sometimes I think the leagues are just using these pesky little logos to soften us up for future soccer-like advertising logos that will swamp such insignificant details such as the team name and player’s number.

  • Cosmo | August 21, 2008 at 8:41 am |

    I actually like the rear neckline logos on some teams, but the ones on the shorts are unacceptable. At the risk of sounding sexist, printing/branding on the ass belongs on Victoria’s Secret shorts, not men’s basketball uniforms.

  • Kek | August 21, 2008 at 8:47 am |

    Dayton Ducks jersey….I….must….get one!!!!

    That might be one of my favorite old flannels that includes a logo. 1940-41 Pirates is probably still my fave.

    …oh, and good looking out to whoever recommended watching the Colbert Report interview with the author of the OBD book. It was hilarious. Colbert at his best and the author seemed to play along. I’m sure the video is on Comedy Central’s site, but I can’t view at work.

  • Billy | August 21, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    [quote comment=”285587″][quote comment=”285586″]Does anyone else feel that MIN having ‘Wolves’ on their unis intstead of Timberwolves is the first step to offically changing their name to The Minnesota Wolves? Almost like they are using it as a feeler gauge to see if people like it. Doesn’t have the right flow if you ask me.

    As for NO unis, is there a different material for the inner legs of the shorts? By the pic there seems to be no pinstripes, wondering if it’s a different material, or if they are just lazy and didn’t put stripes on them. Also, don’t like how they made the purple line up on the shorts and the top, going to look like hell once the players start moving around, not going to line up anymore…[/quote]

    I kinda doubt they’re thinking of shortening the nickname. “‘Wolves” is part of the verbal shorthand around here (sorta like “‘Wings” in Detroit). I imagine it’s something akin to when Cleveland had “CAVS” on their unis for a while.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Or “Sonics” for the Sea… oh wait.

    Why did they put New Orleans on the home uniforms as well?

  • Geeman | August 21, 2008 at 8:54 am |

    Re: Hornets uniforms.

    I’m sorry to see that classic three-stripe of purple/gold/green go. The Jazz had it for years. (Notre Dame had a similiar version, only with blue/gold/green, in the 1970s. It looks good.) Not long after Katrina, I saw a pro-New Orleans bumper sticker that had a purple/gold/green stripe combination and realized that that was New Orleans, in a nutshell. Sorry to see it go on the unis.

  • Ed | August 21, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    I sure hope No. 08, Mr. Abcdefg, has a good season…

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    [quote comment=”285591″]Why did they put New Orleans on the home uniforms as well?[/quote]

    they want to emulate a winner

  • Kevin in Boston | August 21, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    Anyone know a date for when the Oklahoma City TBDs are going to announce their official name, logo, jerseys, etc…?

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | August 21, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”285594″][quote comment=”285591″]Why did they put New Orleans on the home uniforms as well?[/quote]

    they want to emulate a winner[/quote]

    Uhhh … Phil … I think you misspelled weiner.

  • Geeman | August 21, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”285592″]Re: Hornets uniforms.

    I’m sorry to see that classic three-stripe of purple/gold/green go. The Jazz had it for years. (Notre Dame had a similiar version, only with blue/gold/green, in the 1970s. It looks good.) Not long after Katrina, I saw a pro-New Orleans bumper sticker that had a purple/gold/green stripe combination and realized that that was New Orleans, in a nutshell. Sorry to see it go on the unis.[/quote]

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  • Pat | August 21, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    I love the new Minnesota uniforms, the neckline bugs me a little but not as much as the one in New Orleans. I especially like the tree on the side of the shorts. My only suggestion would be that for the tree on the jersey side that they would have started the green at the bottom of the jersey and brought it up further towards the armpit. Not all the way, though. Probably about 3 or 4 inches short of where it comes to now. My only real problem with the uniforms is ditching “Timberwolves” in favor of “Wolves.” This was always my favorite Minn. uniform.

    In New Orleans I hate the pinstripe stemming from the weird v-neckline. Looks awkward.

  • Pat | August 21, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”285598″]I love the new Minnesota uniforms, the neckline bugs me a little but not as much as the one in New Orleans. I especially like the tree on the side of the shorts. My only suggestion would be that for the tree on the jersey side that they would have started the green at the bottom of the jersey and brought it up further towards the armpit. Not all the way, though. Probably about 3 or 4 inches short of where it comes to now. My only real problem with the uniforms is ditching “Timberwolves” in favor of “Wolves.” This was always my favorite Minn. uniform.

    In New Orleans I hate the pinstripe stemming from the weird v-neckline. Looks awkward.[/quote]

    By the way, can I just tell you that it puts the biggest smile on my face every time I google for images of Kevin Garnett and the majority of them are him in a Celtics uniform.

  • KT | August 21, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    Huh. I actually like the fleur-de-lis treatment of the little Hornet and I like the tree motif on the ‘Wolves’ jerseys and shorts. I’m normally a simplicity guy, but those are subtle, unique and interesting to me.

    YMMV.

  • Robert | August 21, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.

  • Nicole | August 21, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”285597″][quote comment=”285592″]Re: Hornets uniforms.

    I’m sorry to see that classic three-stripe of purple/gold/green go. The Jazz had it for years. (Notre Dame had a similiar version, only with blue/gold/green, in the 1970s. It looks good.) Not long after Katrina, I saw a pro-New Orleans bumper sticker that had a purple/gold/green stripe combination and realized that that was New Orleans, in a nutshell. Sorry to see it go on the unis.[/quote]

    http://media.2theadv...

    Of course, that’s not even close to green….

  • Greg V. | August 21, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Will the Hornets still have a yellow alt?

  • Geeman | August 21, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”285602″][quote comment=”285597″][quote comment=”285592″]Re: Hornets uniforms.

    I’m sorry to see that classic three-stripe of purple/gold/green go. The Jazz had it for years. (Notre Dame had a similiar version, only with blue/gold/green, in the 1970s. It looks good.) Not long after Katrina, I saw a pro-New Orleans bumper sticker that had a purple/gold/green stripe combination and realized that that was New Orleans, in a nutshell. Sorry to see it go on the unis.[/quote]

    http://media.2theadv...

    Of course, that’s not even close to green….[/quote]
    Well, it’s teal, you’re right, a holdover from the Hornets’ days in Charlotte. But it’s kissin’ cousin of green.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | August 21, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    New logo for Champions League Hockey has just been presented.

  • Scott | August 21, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    Wow, NOLA took a good thing … and ruined it.

    They had some sharp, basic, colorful uniforms before. And now? They nod toward the ridiculosity of early 90s Charlotte? Why not bring back Grandmama Johnson to model them?

    I give the new NOLA logo suite a B+/A-.
    I give the new uniforms a flat C. They suck royal.

  • Billy | August 21, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other

  • Jim MI (longtime poster, formally on of many Jims) | August 21, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”285603″]Will the Hornets still have a yellow alt?[/quote]

    God I hope not…

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    Word, I did a speech on this my first semester of college and used that same map, awesome stuff. BTW, I’ve always understood soda, but Coke? That doesn’t make any sense, I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

  • Glen | August 21, 2008 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”285596″][quote comment=”285594″][quote comment=”285591″]Why did they put New Orleans on the home uniforms as well?[/quote]

    they want to emulate a winner[/quote]

    Uhhh … Phil … I think you misspelled weiner.[/quote]
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HILARIOUS!

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    The New NO uni’s are an absolute disaster IMO. Tehy had a very underated uni to begin with, see old Devil Rays, and ruined it. Why try to copy the old, terrible Charlotte unis. I’m so dissappointed with this all around. Only redeeming quality is use of the logo.

  • Robert | August 21, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    You’re right. I just glanced at the area, and it is Wisconsin that has the soda people. Still odd, though.

  • Glen | August 21, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”285605″]New logo for Champions League Hockey has just been presented.[/quote]

    Looks like SHITake(shiitake) mushrooms

  • Robert | August 21, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    Where did you get the Cook County breakdown?

  • Jim MI (longtime poster, formally on of many Jims) | August 21, 2008 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”285612″][quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    You’re right. I just glanced at the area, and it is Wisconsin that has the soda people. Still odd, though.[/quote]

    It’s accurate for where I live in MI. People do say ‘Pop’ around here…

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”285604″][quote comment=”285602″][quote comment=”285597″]http://media.2theadvocate.com/images/chris+paul_042008.jpg[/quote]

    Of course, that’s not even close to green….[/quote]
    Well, it’s teal, you’re right, a holdover from the Hornets’ days in Charlotte. But it’s kissin’ cousin of green.[/quote]

    this contains “green”

    this does notthis does notand this most assuredly, does not

  • Shaun | August 21, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]
    I grew up in St. Louis, and it is most assuredly a soda city. I now live in Kansas City, and its weird hearing everyone call it pop.
    I went to a small Missouri college that was mostly equidistant from St. Louis and Kansas City, and each city has about 40% of the student body. The soda/pop debate was so evenly split that you could use it to divide any group of students into two equal(ish) sized groups. Need to split a class in two for some kind of debate? Use soda/pop. Need to determine teams for a pickup basketball game? Use soda/pop. Its quite strange how often that worked. . . .

  • Robin | August 21, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    Glad to see my hometeam Hornets at the top of the page. I think the revamp is good and bad. I love that we are keeping the “Fluer de BEE,” but I agree that the NOLA logo is very Triple – A baseball. It just looks hokey.

    I wish they had kept the uni design they had, but incorporated the typeface they have now. And if I have seen the last of the yellow alts, I will be very happy.

  • Robin | August 21, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    And teal is NOT green. I must agree.

    purple “teal” and gold do not shout New Orleans

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    damn creamer boards

    this contains green

  • Geeman | August 21, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    O.K., the teals have it. It’s not green. But two questions:

    1. Why would you change uniforms after the most successful season in franchise history (spanning two cities)?

    2. Why not get rid of the Charlotte-era teal and just go with a true New Orleans look — green, gold, and purple?

  • Neil | August 21, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”285609″][quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    Word, I did a speech on this my first semester of college and used that same map, awesome stuff. BTW, I’ve always understood soda, but Coke? That doesn’t make any sense, I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.[/quote]

    In college, I worked with a guy from New Mexico. He’d ask, “you wanna Coke?” I love Coke, so I said, “Sure.” He responded, “what kind?”

  • Glen | August 21, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”285623″][quote comment=”285609″][quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    Word, I did a speech on this my first semester of college and used that same map, awesome stuff. BTW, I’ve always understood soda, but Coke? That doesn’t make any sense, I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.[/quote]

    In college, I worked with a guy from New Mexico. He’d ask, “you wanna Coke?” I love Coke, so I said, “Sure.” He responded, “what kind?”[/quote]

    AMEN. I live in Indiana, and I always have this discussion. We (I) call all of the flavored non alcoholic carbonated beverages COKE. Then you have to designate what “COKE” you want. Rather it be the original, cherry, or perhaps your are feeling feisty and a sprite is what you are looking for. but it is all categorized under the name “COKE”. I’m glad they made note of it in the graph, usually people think I’m crazy when I tell them that it is all referred to as COKE

  • Wade Harder | August 21, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”285609″][quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    Word, I did a speech on this my first semester of college and used that same map, awesome stuff. BTW, I’ve always understood soda, but Coke? That doesn’t make any sense, I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.[/quote]

    It’s because Coke is the master brand. And when I hear someone call a soft drink “pop”, it makes me want to punch them in the face.

  • Fleeser | August 21, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”285586″]Does anyone else feel that MIN having ‘Wolves’ on their unis intstead of Timberwolves is the first step to offically changing their name to The Minnesota Wolves? Almost like they are using it as a feeler gauge to see if people like it. Doesn’t have the right flow if you ask me.

    As for NO unis, is there a different material for the inner legs of the shorts? By the pic there seems to be no pinstripes, wondering if it’s a different material, or if they are just lazy and didn’t put stripes on them. Also, don’t like how they made the purple line up on the shorts and the top, going to look like hell once the players start moving around, not going to line up anymore…[/quote]

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    The Timberwolves’ original road uniforms said “WOLVES” too.

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    I loved their old logo.

    http://www.nba.com/m...

    I also really like the new Hornets uniforms, overall.

  • Rick | August 21, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    How is it that they can fit “New Orleans” on a jersey but not “Timberwolves?” I know it looked kinda smushed before, but that was because of the font. I hate it when teams shorten their names on their jerseys. Teams should pick a name that fits on a jersey. That would be a good rule of thumb. Your jersey is that main advertisement for your team and when people see the shortened name they may not know the real name. I remember the first time I heard Supersonics I didn’t know what they were talking about because they always had just Sonics on their jerseys. I think the Diamondbacks are the worst with Dbacks. Just wrong in so many ways. Of course I’m mainly referring to the teams established in the modern era. I can understand why the Kickerbockers just went with Knicks.

  • Jay | August 21, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    Typical southern conversation:

    -You want anything to drink?

    +Yeah, I’ll have a Coke.

    -What kind?

    +Dr. Pepper.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    “coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either

  • Justin | August 21, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

    Ha-ha. That is funny you say that. I live in Arkansas and people call every kind of soda coke. Whether it is Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, PEPSI! Doesn’t matter. It annoys me to no end. As a matter of fact, when I was in college I waited tables and when people would say they wanted a “Coke” I would bring them a Coca-Cola. I had one guy tell say to me that I didn’t ask him what kind of “Coke” he wanted. Turns out the “Coke” he wanted was, in fact, a Dr. Pepper. Sigh.

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”285625″][quote comment=”285609″][quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    Word, I did a speech on this my first semester of college and used that same map, awesome stuff. BTW, I’ve always understood soda, but Coke? That doesn’t make any sense, I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.[/quote]

    It’s because Coke is the master brand. And when I hear someone call a soft drink “pop”, it makes me want to punch them in the face.[/quote]

    I guess, but you’d have to agree that it doesn’t make any sense. I wouldn’t say I drive a Toyota, then explain that it’s a Chrysler. I wouldn’t say, lets go play my Playstation 2, then specify that I really had an XBox. I wouldn’t say, “Hey those are nice Nikes!”, then specify that Ne Balance Nikes are my favorites. It just mind-bogglingly-weird. Yes, so weird I had to create a new word for it. If you’re wondering we call it pop here in Rockford, IL. And outside fo Rockford and Chicago everyone in Illinois calls it soda. How bout what to call water fountains(the kind you drink out of). Our friends in Wisconsin like to call them bubblers, weird.

  • Justin | August 21, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”285630″]I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

    Ha-ha. That is funny you say that. I live in Arkansas and people call every kind of soda coke. Whether it is Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, PEPSI! Doesn’t matter. It annoys me to no end. As a matter of fact, when I was in college I waited tables and when people would say they wanted a “Coke” I would bring them a Coca-Cola. I had one guy tell say to me that I didn’t ask him what kind of “Coke” he wanted. Turns out the “Coke” he wanted was, in fact, a Dr. Pepper. Sigh.[/quote]

    And for the record, I call carbonated beverages “soda”. People around here think I’m strange.

  • Craig Gummer | August 21, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    It’s McMenamin’s world, we’re just lucky to live in it…. Cornelius Pass Roadhouse. Edgefield. Blue Moon Tavern. Nuff said.

  • Justin | August 21, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    Quote: The primary logo has been tweaked as well, going from this to this. I miss the white gloves, but otherwise this looks like a clear upgrade for both the illo and the typography.

    I’m surprised you aren’t missing the honeycomb pattern on the bottom of the sneakers as well – definitely should have been kept in my opinion…

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”285629″]”coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either[/quote]

    Ahhh, so you’re soda folk, eh? That expalins a lot. BTW, the British gusy I work with only refer to it as a fizzy drink, or tonic.

  • Fleeser | August 21, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”285634″]Quote: The primary logo has been tweaked as well, going from this to this. I miss the white gloves, but otherwise this looks like a clear upgrade for both the illo and the typography.

    I’m surprised you aren’t missing the honeycomb pattern on the bottom of the sneakers as well – definitely should have been kept in my opinion…[/quote]
    I totally agree.

  • Jim MI (longtime poster, formally on of many Jims) | August 21, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”285629″]”coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either[/quote]

    Vomit coke?!?

    What the hell kind of stuff they sell in NY?

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”285629″]”coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either[/quote]

    Depends on what part of the country you’re standing in, I’m afraid. Not sure there are rights and wrongs when discussing local colloquialisms.

    Been around long enough, and in the south, you’d have heard people say, “Bring me an RC Coke.”

    Now, let me ask this: How many times have any of said, “I need a kleenex” or “I’ll xerox it so I have a copy” ?

    Been around even longer and you remember the “Fridge” (for Frigidaire, not refrigerator) or “Get the hoover and clean up this carpet” or, even stranger, “I’ll be there as soon as I finish hoovering the living room.”

    And this one (not heard so much these days), here in Minnesota we used to call rubber bands “rubberbinders”. Anyone heard that one anywhere else?

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”285637″]
    Vomit coke?!?

    What the hell kind of stuff they sell in NY?[/quote]

    you’ve never had bacon coke?

  • Justin in AR | August 21, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”285638″][quote comment=”285629″]”coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either[/quote]

    Depends on what part of the country you’re standing in, I’m afraid. Not sure there are rights and wrongs when discussing local colloquialisms.

    Been around long enough, and in the south, you’d have heard people say, “Bring me an RC Coke.”

    Now, let me ask this: How many times have any of said, “I need a kleenex” or “I’ll xerox it so I have a copy” ?

    Been around even longer and you remember the “Fridge” (for Frigidaire, not refrigerator) or “Get the hoover and clean up this carpet” or, even stranger, “I’ll be there as soon as I finish hoovering the living room.”

    And this one (not heard so much these days), here in Minnesota we used to call rubber bands “rubberbinders”. Anyone heard that one anywhere else?[/quote]

    Right on. People here also call margarine “butter”. It’s like, “hey, go get me some butter.”
    If you return with butter, they say, “no! I meant margarine!”
    Geez, say what you mean, you turd.

  • Perry | August 21, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”285625″][quote comment=”285609″][quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    Word, I did a speech on this my first semester of college and used that same map, awesome stuff. BTW, I’ve always understood soda, but Coke? That doesn’t make any sense, I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.[/quote]

    It’s because Coke is the master brand. And when I hear someone call a soft drink “pop”, it makes me want to punch them in the face.[/quote]

    Have anger management issues, do we? I sure hope you’re either (1) exaggerating for effect, or (2) posting from jail.

    Me, I hail from pop country, but have also lived for extended periods in soda-land and coke-ville. You have to roll with it.

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”285639″][quote comment=”285637″]
    Vomit coke?!?

    What the hell kind of stuff they sell in NY?[/quote]

    you’ve never had bacon coke?[/quote]

    Wow, wish they’d had that back when I was on the Bacon & Jolt!Cola Diet.

    Kept me sharp. Sort of a precursor to energy drinks.

    (rolls eyes)

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    [quote]Now, let me ask this: How many times have any of said, “I need a kleenex” or “I’ll xerox it so I have a copy” ?[/quote]

    i generally say “i’ll xerox it” (the so i have a copy part is usually implied)…

    lets keep this to coke, tho…not the ‘band aid’, ‘vaseline,’ ‘kleenex’ stuff (you know…the brand names that are synonymous with the overall genre of the product)

  • Jim MI (longtime poster, formally on of many Jims) | August 21, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”285639″][quote comment=”285637″]
    Vomit coke?!?

    What the hell kind of stuff they sell in NY?[/quote]

    you’ve never had bacon coke?[/quote]

    Oh. My. God. Is that real?

  • Bryan Redemske | August 21, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”285630″]I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

    Ha-ha. That is funny you say that. I live in Arkansas and people call every kind of soda coke. Whether it is Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, PEPSI! Doesn’t matter. It annoys me to no end. As a matter of fact, when I was in college I waited tables and when people would say they wanted a “Coke” I would bring them a Coca-Cola. I had one guy tell say to me that I didn’t ask him what kind of “Coke” he wanted. Turns out the “Coke” he wanted was, in fact, a Dr. Pepper. Sigh.[/quote]

    Coke is like Kleenex. Do you say facial tissue? Nope — Kleenex. Just like the person who told me she loved her Nike iPod. Ummm … what? “My Nike iPod.” It was a Philips/Nike-branded mp3 player. Nice.

  • Bryan Redemske | August 21, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    damn you, phil.

  • Matt | August 21, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    ass-crack logo? let’s call it what it really is…a “tramp stamp.”

  • The Ol Goaler | August 21, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”285630″]I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

    Ha-ha. That is funny you say that. I live in Arkansas and people call every kind of soda coke. Whether it is Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, PEPSI! Doesn’t matter. It annoys me to no end. As a matter of fact, when I was in college I waited tables and when people would say they wanted a “Coke” I would bring them a Coca-Cola. I had one guy tell say to me that I didn’t ask him what kind of “Coke” he wanted. Turns out the “Coke” he wanted was, in fact, a Dr. Pepper. Sigh.[/quote]
    As a fellow Arkansawyer (who grew up in St. Louis), I quickly learned that if’n one wanted a Coca-Cola, one asked for a “Co-Cola”… since my native-Arkansawyer bride and I actually prefer Coke, no problem!

    “Ya got Co-Cola?” “Naw, just Pepsi…”

    Arkansas State University is beginning their first season as the Red Wolves, after the NCAA mandated “no more Indians (unless your school makes enough $$$); but the long-time “A-State” logo is prominent on the team’s football uniforms. We’ll see if the wolf head shows up on the basketball unis later!

  • Billy | August 21, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”285614″][quote comment=”285607″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    St. Louis is, but Chicago most definitely is not.

    Cook county Illinois (Chicago):

    3420 respondants – 2613 Pop, 140 Coke, 617 Soda, 50 Other[/quote]

    Where did you get the Cook County breakdown?[/quote]

    Clickable map:

    http://popvssoda.com...

  • Jim MI (longtime poster, formally on of many Jims) | August 21, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”285645″][quote comment=”285630″]I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

    Ha-ha. That is funny you say that. I live in Arkansas and people call every kind of soda coke. Whether it is Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, PEPSI! Doesn’t matter. It annoys me to no end. As a matter of fact, when I was in college I waited tables and when people would say they wanted a “Coke” I would bring them a Coca-Cola. I had one guy tell say to me that I didn’t ask him what kind of “Coke” he wanted. Turns out the “Coke” he wanted was, in fact, a Dr. Pepper. Sigh.[/quote]

    Coke is like Kleenex. Do you say facial tissue? Nope — Kleenex. Just like the person who told me she loved her Nike iPod. Ummm … what? “My Nike iPod.” It was a Philips/Nike-branded mp3 player. Nice.[/quote]

    Here in MI, never heard anyone call anything else but ‘Coke’ Coke. Pepsi is Pepsi, and 7-up is 7-up.

  • Kerry P | August 21, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”285589″]I actually like the rear neckline logos on some teams, but the ones on the shorts are unacceptable. At the risk of sounding sexist, printing/branding on the ass belongs on Victoria’s Secret shorts, not men’s basketball uniforms.[/quote]
    For the most part, I like the neck logos too but also think the ass logos are stupid. And I have to disagree with Paul regarding the Hornet’s “NOLA” logo. I LOVE it. I like how they obviously took inspiration from the font used on the All-Star Game unis and made it work with the rest of the teams logos. Although, I think they should move that from the ass up to the right chest, where the “Fleur-de-Bee” was LAST YEAR. Like the Fleur-de-Bee, I think that the “NOLA” logo will be pretty popular down here.

  • Dane | August 21, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”285638″]And this one (not heard so much these days), here in Minnesota we used to call rubber bands “rubberbinders”. Anyone heard that one anywhere else?[/quote]

    In Pittsburgh, they are “gumbands.”

  • Dane | August 21, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    Seeing the T’wolves shorts
    http://farm4.static....

    made me think of this alternate classic
    http://www.buy.com/p...

    Therefore, the verdict in my book: WINNER!

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”285643″][quote]Now, let me ask this: How many times have any of said, “I need a kleenex” or “I’ll xerox it so I have a copy” ?[/quote]

    i generally say “i’ll xerox it” (the so i have a copy part is usually implied)…

    lets keep this to coke, tho…not the ‘band aid’, ‘vaseline,’ ‘kleenex’ stuff (you know…the brand names that are synonymous with the overall genre of the product)[/quote]

    Agreed. LOL. Was just sayin’ kinda understand how the coke one could happen.

    When I’m travelling I try to listen for what’s used locally (soda or pop) so I don’t look like a dork when ordering. Blend in. Like a spy. (looks furtively to either side; tries to remember if changed battery in shoe phone).

  • Ed | August 21, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”285645″][quote comment=”285630″]I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

    Ha-ha. That is funny you say that. I live in Arkansas and people call every kind of soda coke. Whether it is Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, PEPSI! Doesn’t matter. It annoys me to no end. As a matter of fact, when I was in college I waited tables and when people would say they wanted a “Coke” I would bring them a Coca-Cola. I had one guy tell say to me that I didn’t ask him what kind of “Coke” he wanted. Turns out the “Coke” he wanted was, in fact, a Dr. Pepper. Sigh.[/quote]

    Coke is like Kleenex. Do you say facial tissue? Nope — Kleenex. Just like the person who told me she loved her Nike iPod. Ummm … what? “My Nike iPod.” It was a Philips/Nike-branded mp3 player. Nice.[/quote]

    Could it have something to do with geographic location of The Coca-Cola Company’s headquarters?

  • Kerry P | August 21, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”285591″][quote comment=”285587″][quote comment=”285586″]Does anyone else feel that MIN having ‘Wolves’ on their unis intstead of Timberwolves is the first step to offically changing their name to The Minnesota Wolves? Almost like they are using it as a feeler gauge to see if people like it. Doesn’t have the right flow if you ask me.

    As for NO unis, is there a different material for the inner legs of the shorts? By the pic there seems to be no pinstripes, wondering if it’s a different material, or if they are just lazy and didn’t put stripes on them. Also, don’t like how they made the purple line up on the shorts and the top, going to look like hell once the players start moving around, not going to line up anymore…[/quote]

    I kinda doubt they’re thinking of shortening the nickname. “‘Wolves” is part of the verbal shorthand around here (sorta like “‘Wings” in Detroit). I imagine it’s something akin to when Cleveland had “CAVS” on their unis for a while.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    Or “Sonics” for the Sea… oh wait.

    Why did they put New Orleans on the home uniforms as well?[/quote]
    It’s nothing new for them to put New Orleans on the front of the jerseys. They’ve been doing it for at least a few years.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    culture shock…volume I

    one of my frat brother/roommates senior year hailed from cleveland (shaker heights to be precise)…and constantly referred to “soda” as “pop”…his 3 suitemates, myself included, were all new yorkers…before realizing this, however, one morning, after a heavy night of drinking…he said…”imo go downtown and get a six of pop”

    when he returned with a case of coke, we were somewhat dumbfounded…’where’s the brew?’ we asked…he was like “what the fuck…it’s 9:00 am”

    of course, from then on, we realized that not everyone calls ‘soda’ or ‘coke’ the same thing…

  • Jim MI | August 21, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”285654″]Seeing the T’wolves shorts
    http://farm4.static....

    made me think of this alternate classic
    http://www.buy.com/p...

    Therefore, the verdict in my book: WINNER![/quote]

    Awww geez. That PHX uni was probably one of the worst of all time. Didn’t even like their normal home/away at that time. Fugly is the word that comes to mind. LOVE LOVE LOVE their new ones. PHX going to the new ones was one of the rare times I thought a team upgraded their look when they change their logo/colors. Doesn’t happan to often. Of course when your uni is rock bottom, there is no where to go but up…

  • War Damn Eagle | August 21, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    Isn’t the return of “Wolves” on the Minnesota home jersey just an homage to their first uniforms, which had “Wolves” on the home and road unis?

    http://cache.viewima...

    http://www.mascotspo...

  • Teebz | August 21, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”285649″]
    As a fellow Arkansawyer (who grew up in St. Louis), I quickly learned that if’n one wanted a Coca-Cola, one asked for a “Co-Cola”… since my native-Arkansawyer bride and I actually prefer Coke, no problem![/quote]

    Warren: Did he just say blindness?
    Count Blah: Yeah, blah. He also said “if’n”.

    Classic obscure comedy from Greg The Bunny… another hilarious show canceled by the jerk-asses who run the Fox Network. If any of you saw the Paintball episode, you know what I’m talking about.

    No one? Dammit.

  • Maddy | August 21, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    I just wanted to say thanks for the link to pollspeak.com …that’s a really nice site. Its amazing what the pollstalker tool tells you about how everyone votes.

  • Banker Bill | August 21, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”285662″][quote comment=”285649″]
    As a fellow Arkansawyer (who grew up in St. Louis), I quickly learned that if’n one wanted a Coca-Cola, one asked for a “Co-Cola”… since my native-Arkansawyer bride and I actually prefer Coke, no problem![/quote]

    Warren: Did he just say blindness?
    Count Blah: Yeah, blah. He also said “if’n”.

    Classic obscure comedy from Greg The Bunny… another hilarious show canceled by the jerk-asses who run the Fox Network. If any of you saw the Paintball episode, you know what I’m talking about.

    No one? Dammit.[/quote]

    Sorry Teebz – more of a Family Guy man myself. And we say “soda” here in upstate NY (75 miles north of NYC – because everyone assumes NY means NYC, and if you’re anywhere but NYC, you’re “upstate”, whether that means Poughkeepsie or Rochester.)

    Not a basketball fan – but I like the Fleur de Bee – always loved the Quebec Nordiques jerseys because of the fleur de lis on the bottom.

  • Jason | August 21, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    No offense to Mike Miller, but I seriously thought this was a WNBA player when I first saw it…

    http://farm4.static....

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”285643″][quote]Now, let me ask this: How many times have any of said, “I need a kleenex” or “I’ll xerox it so I have a copy” ?[/quote]

    i generally say “i’ll xerox it” (the so i have a copy part is usually implied)…

    lets keep this to coke, tho…not the ‘band aid’, ‘vaseline,’ ‘kleenex’ stuff (you know…the brand names that are synonymous with the overall genre of the product)[/quote]

    Other examples include:

    1. Crescent Wrench:
    http://pro.corbis.co...

    Crescent is the most popular brand of “adjustable pliers

    2. Vise Grips:
    http://www.homedepot...

    Vise is the most popular brand of “Locking Pliers”.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”285662″][quote comment=”285649″]
    As a fellow Arkansawyer (who grew up in St. Louis), I quickly learned that if’n one wanted a Coca-Cola, one asked for a “Co-Cola”… since my native-Arkansawyer bride and I actually prefer Coke, no problem![/quote]

    Warren: Did he just say blindness?
    Count Blah: Yeah, blah. He also said “if’n”.

    Classic obscure comedy from Greg The Bunny… another hilarious show canceled by the jerk-asses who run the Fox Network. If any of you saw the Paintball episode, you know what I’m talking about.

    No one? Dammit.[/quote]

    yet another reason i like ya teebz :o)…

    back before greg the bunny was even ON tv…a guy i worked with got preview (VHS back then) tapes of the first six episodes of that show…fell in f’n love with it then…and still think it was one of the best shows never to gain any mass audience…prolly because the mass audience didn’t Get It (TM) …

    that had seth green and that sarah silverman chick…and the dad from american pie, yes?

    …just did a quick search and found the complete series is on dvd…may have to pick that up

    …not quite in the same comedy genre, but as funny as “arrested development”…another hilarious show no one seemed to watch

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 11:47 am |

    oh…and teebz…

    is this not the best thing to come out of canuckistan since bryan adams or what?

  • Trav | August 21, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”285658″]culture shock…volume I

    one of my frat brother/roommates senior year hailed from cleveland (shaker heights to be precise)…and constantly referred to “soda” as “pop”…his 3 suitemates, myself included, were all new yorkers…before realizing this, however, one morning, after a heavy night of drinking…he said…”imo go downtown and get a six of pop”

    when he returned with a case of coke, we were somewhat dumbfounded…’where’s the brew?’ we asked…he was like “what the fuck…it’s 9:00 am”

    of course, from then on, we realized that not everyone calls ‘soda’ or ‘coke’ the same thing…[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just my social group here in Iowa, but we’re the exact opposite. Pop = Soft drink, Sodas = Beers

  • Justin in AR | August 21, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”285667″][quote comment=”285662″][quote comment=”285649″]
    As a fellow Arkansawyer (who grew up in St. Louis), I quickly learned that if’n one wanted a Coca-Cola, one asked for a “Co-Cola”… since my native-Arkansawyer bride and I actually prefer Coke, no problem![/quote]

    Warren: Did he just say blindness?
    Count Blah: Yeah, blah. He also said “if’n”.

    Classic obscure comedy from Greg The Bunny… another hilarious show canceled by the jerk-asses who run the Fox Network. If any of you saw the Paintball episode, you know what I’m talking about.

    No one? Dammit.[/quote]

    yet another reason i like ya teebz :o)…

    back before greg the bunny was even ON tv…a guy i worked with got preview (VHS back then) tapes of the first six episodes of that show…fell in f’n love with it then…and still think it was one of the best shows never to gain any mass audience…prolly because the mass audience didn’t Get It (TM) …

    that had seth green and that sarah silverman chick…and the dad from american pie, yes?

    …just did a quick search and found the complete series is on dvd…may have to pick that up

    …not quite in the same comedy genre, but as funny as “arrested development”…another hilarious show no one seemed to watch[/quote]

    Another example is “Freaks and Geeks.” That show was awesome, but it never got any respect. Now that the whole Judd Apatow explosion is going on, people are buying the DVD.
    Too bad that show was only on for one season. It had so much potential.

  • Chris | August 21, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    In Mass, the old people call it tonic but everyone else calls it soda.

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”285649″][quote comment=”285630″]I’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

    Ha-ha. That is funny you say that. I live in Arkansas and people call every kind of soda coke. Whether it is Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, PEPSI! Doesn’t matter. It annoys me to no end. As a matter of fact, when I was in college I waited tables and when people would say they wanted a “Coke” I would bring them a Coca-Cola. I had one guy tell say to me that I didn’t ask him what kind of “Coke” he wanted. Turns out the “Coke” he wanted was, in fact, a Dr. Pepper. Sigh.[/quote]
    As a fellow Arkansawyer (who grew up in St. Louis), I quickly learned that if’n one wanted a Coca-Cola, one asked for a “Co-Cola”… since my native-Arkansawyer bride and I actually prefer Coke, no problem!

    “Ya got Co-Cola?” “Naw, just Pepsi…”

    Arkansas State University is beginning their first season as the Red Wolves, after the NCAA mandated “no more Indians (unless your school makes enough $$$); but the long-time “A-State” logo is prominent on the team’s football uniforms. We’ll see if the wolf head shows up on the basketball unis later![/quote]

    My wife’s family are all Arkies…from Forrest City and Wynne. They drink Dr. Pepper like it’s their job, and if they could have fried that, along with everything else they ate, they would have.

    Me being a native New Yorker, 20 minutes north of Manhattan, was in for some culture shock when, In Arkansas, all 13 of us went out to an all-you-can eat buffet.

    We ate like absolute royalty and with tax, the bill was 103 dollars! At 8$ per person, we could have bread and water back in New York!

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”285671″]In Mass, the old people call it tonic but everyone else calls it soda.[/quote]

    I still can’t get used to submarine sandwiches being called heroes, hoagies, and in Mass., grinders!

  • Dustin | August 21, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    Amazing that the NY Times mention that this was the first time that Germany used “Deutschland” on their jerseys. Last time I checked, their hockey team did that for the last couple of Winter Olympics.

  • DJK | August 21, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    Where is ths map?

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”285675″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]

    Where is ths map?[/quote]

    was mentioned in the ticker

    here

  • My Name is Not Earl | August 21, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    I’ve never understood the basketball uniform phenomenon of logos/wordmarks on the fanny. To me, it looks too much like those shorts that girls wear with idiotic ilttle words and phrases on the back (such as “juicy,” “hot,” etc.). Those short shorts might as well say “skanky ho” on the back. Why any team (HS, college, and especially pro) would want to replicate that is beyond me.

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”285673″][quote comment=”285671″]In Mass, the old people call it tonic but everyone else calls it soda.[/quote]

    I still can’t get used to submarine sandwiches being called heroes, hoagies, and in Mass., grinders![/quote]

    To put two posts in perspective, when Phil mentioned thsi “they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off” and now you mentioned the alternate names for a sub, I remembered this gem from my youth.

    My family was visiting relatives in Philly and went to a SUBway. I went up to order and the girl says this, “What kind of hoagie do ya want?” I am at a F’n Subway and they’re calling them hoagies for crying out loud! Then they keep the pop machine behind the counter and I’m all of about 5 years old and I can’t see what kind they have, so I say, “What kind of pop do you have?” And the girl gives the blankest stare I’ve ever seen, and says, “We’ve got soda.” To which I respond, yeah, that’s the same thing.” And again she stares blankly. Now I understand that its called different things geographically, but seriously, how had this girl never heard it called pop before? It blew my 5 year old mind. And to my amazment the hoagie and soada I got tasted similar to the sub and pop I was used to.

  • Nick Maibroda | August 21, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”285668″]oh…and teebz…

    is this not the best thing to come out of canuckistan since bryan adams or what?[/quote]

    I will second that, and to make it uni related here is a jersey Ricky wears for road hockey and the hash hockey (table hockey with a hash hockey puck) with the appropriate triple digit number on the back.

  • S. Bennett | August 21, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=\”285645\”][quote comment=\”285630\”]I\’ll never be able to understand why someone would refer to a 7-Up, for instance, as coke, just weird.

    Ha-ha. That is funny you say that. I live in Arkansas and people call every kind of soda coke. Whether it is Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, PEPSI! Doesn\’t matter. It annoys me to no end. As a matter of fact, when I was in college I waited tables and when people would say they wanted a \”Coke\” I would bring them a Coca-Cola. I had one guy tell say to me that I didn\’t ask him what kind of \”Coke\” he wanted. Turns out the \”Coke\” he wanted was, in fact, a Dr. Pepper. Sigh.[/quote]

    Coke is like Kleenex. Do you say facial tissue? Nope — Kleenex. Just like the person who told me she loved her Nike iPod. Ummm … what? \”My Nike iPod.\” It was a Philips/Nike-branded mp3 player. Nice.[/quote]

    I seriously doubt Coke would like to hear that you lot have determined them a genericized trademark. They are no way near the status of Xerox, Kleenex or Jell-o and, no doubt, would like to keep it that way.

    SB

  • Patrick | August 21, 2008 at 12:19 pm |

    Regarding the Hornets:

    New typography is a huge improvement. And I love the Fleur de Bee logo on the shorts. But…

    they totally screwed up by adding the pinstripes, which didn’t look good in Charlotte, either. And the colors are another missed opportunity. This would have been the perfect time to go with purple/green/yellow (NO is one of very few cities that are so closely associated with a color scheme…you’d think they’d capitalize on that), and yet they chose…whatever that blue is. Stupid.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    question for all you foreigners and world travelers…(i notice this every time im abroad…which is somewhat rare, but it has occurred)…

    is the US the only nation that actually puts ice (or more than say, one or two cubes) in a cold beverage?

    i was in…get this…a mickey d’s on the champs eleyses…(just had to, ya know??) and not only was my ‘supersize’ order smaller than a regular one here (back in about 1999…when they still had “supersize”)…there was NO ICE in my iced tea…WTF???

    noticed this in england and canada too

    is ice that much of an anathema elsewhere? is it ‘too expensive’? this one i just don’t get

    and the foreigners here are the same way…was in $tarbux the other day and some british chick ordered some iced coffee drink with “light ice” (and it was about half full of cubes)…to which she, quite snarkily i might said, “that’s NOT light ice…light ice is one or two cubes”…(of course, it didn’t help that the counter teen even more attitudinally replied…”it does here in AMERIKA”)

    (i would have told the british chick to check for spit in her ‘new, light-iced’ beverage…but well…she kind of deserved it)

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    This whole soda discussion reminds me of the diner scene from the original “Back to the Future”.

    Gimme a tab…ya aint bought nothin!
    Lemme get a pepsi free…ya gotta pay for it

  • Kek | August 21, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”285677″]I’ve never understood the basketball uniform phenomenon of logos/wordmarks on the fanny. To me, it looks too much like those shorts that girls wear with idiotic ilttle words and phrases on the back (such as “juicy,” “hot,” etc.). Those short shorts might as well say “skanky ho” on the back. Why any team (HS, college, and especially pro) would want to replicate that is beyond me.[/quote]
    I don’t much care for the logo on the back of those shorts but there’s a big difference that small logo and having words on both cheeks as with those girl shorts. The NOLA logo is actually closer to the waistband.

    I’m just saying.

    Either way, the logo is not needed.

  • Jim | August 21, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    The map is wrong with Alaska…I live in Fairbanks and can guarentee you basically everyone here is a soda person, not pop.

    My other peeve is (this has nothing to do with brands) but everywhere in the lower 48 snowmachines are called “snowmobiles”. What the heck is wrong with you lower 48ers haha.

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”285682″]question for all you foreigners and world travelers…(i notice this every time im abroad…which is somewhat rare, but it has occurred)…

    is the US the only nation that actually puts ice (or more than say, one or two cubes) in a cold beverage?

    i was in…get this…a mickey d’s on the champs eleyses…(just had to, ya know??) and not only was my ‘supersize’ order smaller than a regular one here (back in about 1999…when they still had “supersize”)…there was NO ICE in my iced tea…WTF???

    noticed this in england and canada too

    is ice that much of an anathema elsewhere? is it ‘too expensive’? this one i just don’t get

    and the foreigners here are the same way…was in $tarbux the other day and some british chick ordered some iced coffee drink with “light ice” (and it was about half full of cubes)…to which she, quite snarkily i might said, “that’s NOT light ice…light ice is one or two cubes”…(of course, it didn’t help that the counter teen even more attitudinally replied…”it does here in AMERIKA”)

    (i would have told the british chick to check for spit in her ‘new, light-iced’ beverage…but well…she kind of deserved it)[/quote]

    Not to be a Subway supporter too much here, as its actually not one of my favorite places to go by a long shot. But, during my stays in England and Scotland it was the only place I could find that always had ice in their beverage machines, and during the summer you just need ice. Oh, and room temperature beer is disgusting Britain!

    BTW, Rockford, IL still has super size on the McDonalds menu. They use us as a testing site for different ideas, that was the reason I was given when I asked, even though it doesn’t make any sense.

  • Beeker | August 21, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    Not athletic uniform related, but I found it interesting.

    New uniforms for TSA officers at airport

    Officers for the Transportation Security Administration at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport are wearing new uniforms and badges in time for people arriving for next week’s Republican National Convention.

    TSA regional spokeswoman Carrie Harmon says the Twin Cities airport is the third in the nation where its officers are in the new uniforms and badges.

  • Beeker | August 21, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    Forgot the link.

    Here’s the official announcement from TSA complete with photos of the new unis.

    I’m a personal fan of the velcro action shot.

    Enjoy.

    http://www.tsa.gov/p...

  • Craig D | August 21, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”285629″]”coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either[/quote]
    Soda is a carbonated water. Pop is shortened for Soda Pop. Pop makes more sense.

  • Quint | August 21, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”285682″]question for all you foreigners and world travelers…(i notice this every time im abroad…which is somewhat rare, but it has occurred)…

    is the US the only nation that actually puts ice (or more than say, one or two cubes) in a cold beverage?

    i was in…get this…a mickey d’s on the champs eleyses…(just had to, ya know??) and not only was my ‘supersize’ order smaller than a regular one here (back in about 1999…when they still had “supersize”)…there was NO ICE in my iced tea…WTF???

    noticed this in england and canada too

    is ice that much of an anathema elsewhere? is it ‘too expensive’? this one i just don’t get

    and the foreigners here are the same way…was in $tarbux the other day and some british chick ordered some iced coffee drink with “light ice” (and it was about half full of cubes)…to which she, quite snarkily i might said, “that’s NOT light ice…light ice is one or two cubes”…(of course, it didn’t help that the counter teen even more attitudinally replied…”it does here in AMERIKA”)

    (i would have told the british chick to check for spit in her ‘new, light-iced’ beverage…but well…she kind of deserved it)[/quote]

    Well, I grew up in Saskatchewan, and now live in Alberta, and most places I go to put ice in drinks. When I worked at both Wendy’s and Arby’s, we filled the cups half way with ice before adding the drink. The only place that doesn’t is A&W, and I just noticed recently they have a little notice printed on their cups. They say they don’t use ice because the drink is supposed to come out of the fountain at the appropriate temperature, and ice just waters it down.

    Speaking of localized expressions, the big one for Saskatchewan is “bunnyhug”. As far as I know, we’re the only place in the world that calls a hoodie a bunnyhug. To me, bunnyhug is completely natural and hoodie sounds wrong.

    The other one is runners, for sneakers. I think this is a Western Canadaian expression.

  • LarenR | August 21, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    If you want a real soda/pop/coke/whatever debate, spend some time in Washington, DC. I lived in DC for a few years while my now-wife was in med school at G-Town. DC is a town of transplants and emigrants and is the biggest hodge-podge of cultures outside of NYC. I’m a NorCal (soda) kid and had friends from Pittsburgh (pop), Atlanta (coke, of course), Washington state (pop), Sri Lanka (soda), and South Africa (tonic!). This debate came up every time we went out to lunch. Clearly the only correct term is soda, but this mish-mash would never admit it.

  • Jason | August 21, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    Awesome full NOB: Steve Johnson of the Bills ( http://assets.buffal...)

  • War Damn Eagle | August 21, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    Jags changed the stripes on their white pants. It’s a large black stripe flanked by white and teal stripes:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    From 1995 to 2007 it was a large teal stripe flanked by gold and black stripes:

    http://www.fredtaylo...

  • Scott | August 21, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote]When I’m travelling I try to listen for what’s used locally (soda or pop) so I don’t look like a dork when ordering. Blend in. Like a spy. (looks furtively to either side; tries to remember if changed battery in shoe phone).[/quote]
    Ah, heck with that. I grew up in “pop” country (NW Indiana), but now live in LA, which is definitely a “soda” area. Been here 15 years, but still call it pop, and still get weird looks from people when I do. I refuse to change, mostly because I know I’m right. :)

    Shortly after I’d first moved here, though, I did have one co-worker mishear me and think I’d asked where the “pot machine” was…that was an amusing experience.

  • LarenR | August 21, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”285689″][quote comment=”285629″]”coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either[/quote]
    Soda is a carbonated water. Pop is shortened for Soda Pop. Pop makes more sense.[/quote]

    Soda is NaCO3, the chemical compound that makes Akla-Seltzer fizzy (I don’t think they still use to carbonate modern bubbly drinks, but could be mistaken). What does pop have to do with carbonated beverages?

  • War Damn Eagle | August 21, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    That could still be gold in between the black and teal stripes, but it’s really really hard to tell.

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”285688″]Forgot the link.

    Here’s the official announcement from TSA complete with photos of the new unis.

    I’m a personal fan of the velcro action shot.

    Enjoy.

    http://www.tsa.gov/p...

    I wonder, do they get paid while attending the “Proper Open/Closure, Velcro” class?

  • who cares | August 21, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”285691″]If you want a real soda/pop/coke/whatever debate, spend some time in Washington, DC. I lived in DC for a few years while my now-wife was in med school at G-Town. DC is a town of transplants and emigrants and is the biggest hodge-podge of cultures outside of NYC. I’m a NorCal (soda) kid and had friends from Pittsburgh (pop), Atlanta (coke, of course), Washington state (pop), Sri Lanka (soda), and South Africa (tonic!). This debate came up every time we went out to lunch. Clearly the only correct term is soda, but this mish-mash would never admit it.[/quote]

    In Ghana if you want a soda/pop/Coke you’ve got to order a “mineral.”

  • LarenR | August 21, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    As I typed that last post, it occurred to me that the name probably came from combining “soda” (fizzy water) and “lollipop” (sweet and sticky goodness) to create “soda pop” (a sweetened carbonated beverage). Hmmmm…

    BTW, did anybody see the jersey/pants/socks worn by the local/regional/national team/athlete recently? It was totally awesome/atrocious! (okay, now we’re back on unis, right?)

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”285695″][quote comment=”285689″][quote comment=”285629″]”coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either[/quote]
    Soda is a carbonated water. Pop is shortened for Soda Pop. Pop makes more sense.[/quote]

    Soda is NaCO3, the chemical compound that makes Akla-Seltzer fizzy (I don’t think they still use to carbonate modern bubbly drinks, but could be mistaken). What does pop have to do with carbonated beverages?[/quote]

    So if someone orders “Scotch & Soda”, what does he get?

    We won’t change things here—that’s for sure—and there probably truly isn’t a right or wrong in this…but post #102 does offer a certain logic, iif we incoporate both the chemical and “cocktail” definitions of Soda as a dual benchmark.

    What’s right is what’s used wherever you’re standing at the time.

    (As a side observation…ever notice how TV shows and movies avoid the “pop-soda” thing altogether? It’s like writers know no matter what dialogue they write, half the country will think it’s wrong.)

  • Concerned Citizen | August 21, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”285618″][quote comment=”285601″]I love the pop/coke/soda map. I spent way too much time studying it. I had no idea that the St. Louis and Chicago areas were soda people.[/quote]
    I grew up in St. Louis, and it is most assuredly a soda city. I now live in Kansas City, and its weird hearing everyone call it pop.
    I went to a small Missouri college that was mostly equidistant from St. Louis and Kansas City, and each city has about 40% of the student body. The soda/pop debate was so evenly split that you could use it to divide any group of students into two equal(ish) sized groups. Need to split a class in two for some kind of debate? Use soda/pop. Need to determine teams for a pickup basketball game? Use soda/pop. Its quite strange how often that worked. . . .[/quote]

    Penn State is the same way, but exacerbated by all the other Pittsburghese terms. Hoagies/Subs/Grinders is another sore point…

  • DenverGregg | August 21, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    A local c-store is using soda vs. pop as a promotion. Yes, the store name is hilarious.

  • Craig D | August 21, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”285695″][quote comment=”285689″][quote comment=”285629″]”coke” is coke (coca-cola)

    not diet coke, cherry coke, vanilla coke, lemon coke, vomit coke, sprite, rootbeer…and definitely not friggin pepsi…they’ll even correct you in a restaurant here if you say “i want a coke” they’ll say “all we have is pepsi” and you tell them to fck off

    generally speaking, carbonated beverages are “sodas”

    “pop” is your old man, the potency of a alcoholic beverage or something you go out for (“a pop”) after softball…and it aint for a cosmo either[/quote]
    Soda is a carbonated water. Pop is shortened for Soda Pop. Pop makes more sense.[/quote]

    Soda is NaCO3, the chemical compound that makes Akla-Seltzer fizzy (I don’t think they still use to carbonate modern bubbly drinks, but could be mistaken). What does pop have to do with carbonated beverages?[/quote]
    I didnt make it up….Sodapop was around long before me. Im guessing the “POP” sound it makes had something to do with it. dont shoot the messenger.

  • Justin in AR | August 21, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    I’m surprised no one has said that they call it “soft drink.”

    And I think the Jags pants have gold on either side of the black stripe. But, that’s just me.

  • Minna H. | August 21, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    A tissue is a tissue; a carbonated beverage is a pop; a copier is a copier. Besides, there are not several flavors of tissue, so it matters little if they are called Kleenex.

    I like the updated fleur-de-bee sans gloves, but since I am not a NOLA fan, it matters little. I think the new unis are bland, but again, so what?

    I AM a Timberwolves fan, however, so it is a huge disappointment to me to see what a mess the new unis are. I hate the sloppy collars, the high schoolish ass logos, the cartoonish trees, but most of all, I hate the shortening of Timberwolves to Wolves. Wolves is so generic and blah. Timberwolves has pizzazz. I will even grudgingly accept T’wolves, but only in a pinch. A total screw-up, in my opinion.

    Oh, and welcome back, Paul. I’m glad you had a good vacation.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    kinda surprised no one mentioned (even though i think the article did) that black (night sky?) surrounding the new trees in the wolves unis form a “w” (wolves) on the jersey and a “m” (minnesota) on the pants

    not a big fan of the uni (for all the reasons already mentioned)…but i do actually like that particular aspect

    /now back to why ‘pop’ is not soda

  • Bill | August 21, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    I don’t think anyone has pointed this out yet, but on the Hornets spec sheet for their new unis, they used “b” for black on one of the CMYK values instead of a “k.” Small point, but you’d think they’d proof these things before sending them out.

  • Nicole | August 21, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    Hell yeah we say bubbler. I’ll even take drinking fountain. But never water fountain.

    A water fountain is Cupid spouting water in the courtyard.

    The water bubbles out – it’s descriptive. If you have a problem with that, I think you have to have a problem with water fountain for it’s inaccuracies.

  • Justin in AR | August 21, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”285706″]kinda surprised no one mentioned (even though i think the article did) that black (night sky?) surrounding the new trees in the wolves unis form a “w” (wolves) on the jersey and a “m” (minnesota) on the pants

    not a big fan of the uni (for all the reasons already mentioned)…but i do actually like that particular aspect

    /now back to why ‘pop’ is not soda[/quote]

    Do you think that was planned, or just total coincidence? That is kinda neat, I didn’t notice that.

  • Scott | August 21, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote]A tissue is a tissue; a carbonated beverage is a pop; a copier is a copier. Besides, there are not several flavors of tissue, so it matters little if they are called Kleenex.[/quote]
    I’d bet it matters to all the non-Kleenex makers of facial tissues. And to Kleenex, also, since it’s devaluing their trademark.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”285709″]Do you think that was planned, or just total coincidence? [/quote]

    oh no…couldn’t have been planned

    paging mr. engle…what’s your phraseology on ‘if you think it’s intentional it is’?

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”285706″]kinda surprised no one mentioned (even though i think the article did) that black (night sky?) surrounding the new trees in the wolves unis form a “w” (wolves) on the jersey and a “m” (minnesota) on the pants

    not a big fan of the uni (for all the reasons already mentioned)…but i do actually like that particular aspect

    /now back to why ‘pop’ is not soda[/quote]

    Heyyyy…you’re right, LI Phil. When they’re below the knee they aren’t “shorts” anymore. They’re “pants”.

    And so, in the history of uni-geekdom, this is a momentous day, this August 21, 2008. On this day, basketball shorts, as we knew them, officially ceased to exist.

    Leave us all bow our heads in a moment of silent sartorial sadness.

    (And then we’ll start debating what’s shorts and what’s pants).

  • Walaitis | August 21, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    I can’t believe I haven’t seen any comments on two oddities from The Games last night. Just wish I had time to look up pictures …

    1) One female sprinter, I believe from Jamaica, had on a top that looked like, for lack of a better description, green and yellow overalls with over-sized buttons on the “shoulder straps”.

    2) Another sprinter (400m hurdles, perhaps?) wearing an outfit that would best be described as a “Swiss Smurf”. I’m assuming she was of an indian decent requiring she cover up, but she did so with looked like a white hoodie holding a bundle of hair above and behind her, and red tights. It was quite a sight to see.

    Sorry again for the lack of visual evidence. No time for that today.

    On an unrelated note, I think the whole soda/pop thing has been run into the ground … except for MY story, of course, of when I moved from the Chicago suburbs to St. Louis in 1996, walked into a local grocery store and asked a clerk, “where is your pop?”. His response (a little confused, a little scared, and with his hand on the “magic button” below the register): “um … at home .. watching Matlock. Can I help you with anything?”

  • Nicole | August 21, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    2) Another sprinter (400m hurdles, perhaps?) wearing an outfit that would best be described as a “Swiss Smurf”. I’m assuming she was of an indian decent requiring she cover up, but she did so with looked like a white hoodie holding a bundle of hair above and behind her, and red tights. It was quite a sight to see.

    She’s Muslim and therefore must cover her hair. This was mentioned on the broadcast.

  • Nicole | August 21, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    To me, saying “I’m going to Xerox this” is a totally dated phrase – only old people say this!

  • Walaitis | August 21, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    As for the Hornets new unis … will Air Jordans be standard issue as well?

    http://360oz.files.w...

  • Walaitis | August 21, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”285714″]2) Another sprinter (400m hurdles, perhaps?) wearing an outfit that would best be described as a “Swiss Smurf”. I’m assuming she was of an indian decent requiring she cover up, but she did so with looked like a white hoodie holding a bundle of hair above and behind her, and red tights. It was quite a sight to see.

    She’s Muslim and therefore must cover her hair. This was mentioned on the broadcast.[/quote]

    I understand the requirements … but that didn’t stop her from looking like a smurf reject.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”285715″]To me, saying “I’m going to Xerox this” is a totally dated phrase – only old people say this![/quote]

    HEY! i resemble that remark ;)

    but do you mean old people like me (42)…or old people like ricko this guy?

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”285715″]To me, saying “I’m going to Xerox this” is a totally dated phrase – only old people say this![/quote]

    That doesn’t mean the usage wasn’t part of the vernacular at one time or another…and that was the point.

    But thank you for sharing that the point of view of those younger than 30 decides everything.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”285719″][quote comment=”285715″]To me, saying “I’m going to Xerox this” is a totally dated phrase – only old people say this![/quote]

    That doesn’t mean the usage wasn’t part of the vernacular at one time or another…and that was the point.

    But thank you for sharing that the point of view of those younger than 30 decides everything.[/quote]

    just to add onto what ricko said…the ‘machine which makes copies’ in my office is made by…

    wait for it…

    xerox

    so, it’s not dated…it might not be what you kids say (what do you say anyway?)…

    i mean if i said “ditto machine” (like yesterday), you’d have a point…but whatever

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”285719″][quote comment=”285715″]To me, saying “I’m going to Xerox this” is a totally dated phrase – only old people say this![/quote]

    That doesn’t mean the usage wasn’t part of the vernacular at one time or another…and that was the point.

    But thank you for sharing that the point of view of those younger than 30 decides everything.[/quote]

    Sorry, but I’d have to agree, only people over say 40 use the term xerox. But to that end, it’s not people under 30, it’s the 13 year old girls that run everything, just look at what they did to MTV etc.

  • Jim MI | August 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”285682″]question for all you foreigners and world travelers…(i notice this every time im abroad…which is somewhat rare, but it has occurred)…

    is the US the only nation that actually puts ice (or more than say, one or two cubes) in a cold beverage?

    i was in…get this…a mickey d’s on the champs eleyses…(just had to, ya know??) and not only was my ‘supersize’ order smaller than a regular one here (back in about 1999…when they still had “supersize”)…there was NO ICE in my iced tea…WTF???

    noticed this in england and canada too

    is ice that much of an anathema elsewhere? is it ‘too expensive’? this one i just don’t get

    and the foreigners here are the same way…was in $tarbux the other day and some british chick ordered some iced coffee drink with “light ice” (and it was about half full of cubes)…to which she, quite snarkily i might said, “that’s NOT light ice…light ice is one or two cubes”…(of course, it didn’t help that the counter teen even more attitudinally replied…”it does here in AMERIKA”)

    (i would have told the british chick to check for spit in her ‘new, light-iced’ beverage…but well…she kind of deserved it)[/quote]

    When I go to Germany for work they do not serve ice in their POP. You have to ask for it, and you stick out like a sore thumb with ice in your glass. Guess that screams ‘American’ to them.

    Good thing I rarely get POP over there, too busy trying all the different kinds of beer :)

  • FXS | August 21, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    Interesting NY Times Op-Ed from former Major Leaguer Doug Glanville on jersey number etiquette

    http://www.nytimes.c...

  • Teebz | August 21, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    You know, I make one stop to fix a computer at a branch, and this board explodes with comments. Lo)

    1. Trailer Park Boys = pure comedy gold. Why? It takes every stereotype you can think of and crams it into every episode. Hilarious.

    2. Arrested Development = better than Curb Your Enthusiasm, and close to being Seinfeld. Sublime comedy, and Will Arnett is gold in that series.

    3. Freaks and Geeks = didn’t build enough hype. It was a classic show, but it didn’t have the marketing or growing enthusiasm that AD or GtheB had. Which is sad because it was so good.

    4. Every restaurant in Canada that I’ve been to serves ice with their soft drinks. Yes, that’s right – soft drinks. Not sodas or pops or sody pops or Soda Popinski. Another classic obscure reference to the past! I’m on a roll today! :o)

  • Roger Faso | August 21, 2008 at 2:05 pm |

    It’s a damn shame that it has come to this…

    http://www.raiders.c...

  • Jim MI | August 21, 2008 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”285720″][quote comment=”285719″][quote comment=”285715″]To me, saying “I’m going to Xerox this” is a totally dated phrase – only old people say this![/quote]

    That doesn’t mean the usage wasn’t part of the vernacular at one time or another…and that was the point.

    But thank you for sharing that the point of view of those younger than 30 decides everything.[/quote]

    just to add onto what ricko said…the ‘machine which makes copies’ in my office is made by…

    wait for it…

    xerox

    so, it’s not dated…it might not be what you kids say (what do you say anyway?)…

    i mean if i said “ditto machine” (like yesterday), you’d have a point…but whatever[/quote]

    I (25) say ‘ I am going to copy this’. Don’t use Xerox…

  • Chris | August 21, 2008 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”285687″]Not athletic uniform related, but I found it interesting.

    New uniforms for TSA officers at airport

    Officers for the Transportation Security Administration at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport are wearing new uniforms and badges in time for people arriving for next week’s Republican National Convention.

    TSA regional spokeswoman Carrie Harmon says the Twin Cities airport is the third in the nation where its officers are in the new uniforms and badges.[/quote]
    It’s nice to see where all that money goes.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote]Every restaurant in Canada that I’ve been to serves ice with their soft drinks.[/quote]

    sorry…when i was dating that winnipegger…the only ‘restaurant’ we ever went to was A&W…and yeah…(plus someone already posted on it)…she’d tell me the story of why there was no ice in the rootbeers…perfect temp…ice waters it down…blah-blah-blah

    i just assumed that all canadian restaurants/establishments followed…my bad

    damn, i do miss me some double-doubles from timmahs tho…

  • mmwatkin | August 21, 2008 at 2:09 pm |

    More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?

  • Teebz | August 21, 2008 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”285728″][quote]Every restaurant in Canada that I’ve been to serves ice with their soft drinks.[/quote]

    sorry…when i was dating that winnipegger…the only ‘restaurant’ we ever went to was A&W…and yeah…(plus someone already posted on it)…she’d tell me the story of why there was no ice in the rootbeers…perfect temp…ice waters it down…blah-blah-blah

    i just assumed that all canadian restaurants/establishments followed…my bad

    damn, i do miss me some double-doubles from timmahs tho…[/quote]

    The reason they don’t put ice in the root beers at A&W is because the mugs are kept chilled. The chilled mugs keep the root beer cold as opposed to putting ice in it, much like bars are supposed to do with beer steins and beer.

    Of course, the ice could melt and dilute the taste of the root beer, but if you’re drinking it that slowly, you didn’t order it because you were thirsty. :o)

  • Walaitis | August 21, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”285729″]More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?[/quote]

    Bolt … Jolt … easy mistake.

  • Jim MI | August 21, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”285729″]More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?[/quote]

    I spilt pop on my uniform once….

  • Teebz | August 21, 2008 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”285729″]More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?[/quote]

    Much like uniform tastes, common words that become “regionalized” have been discussed on here before. This is no different.

  • Jim MI | August 21, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    Hockey news has an article on what one picture defines hockey. Has some good old time hockey uni goodness.

    http://www.thehockey...

    Man, I cannot wait for hockey to start up again…

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”285729″]More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?[/quote]

    nothing

    paul put the following in the ticker:

    [quote] Not uni-related, but fascinating all the same (thanks, Kirsten).[/quote]

    took on a life of its own

    …i mean…we can only say so much on the new wolves & hornets unis…LLWS is off limits…and olympics is now passe

  • Rick | August 21, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    RE: More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?

    Finally someone said it! My finger hurts from scrolling through all this BS trying to find a post that has anything to do with uniforms. Let’s get back on track fellow uniwatchers!

    BTW, in Maryland we say Coke for either Coke or Pepsi. If you want something other than those two, you refer to it by its proper name. Not too many “pop’s” around here.

    Damn. Now I’m doing it….

  • dgc | August 21, 2008 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”285682″]question for all you foreigners and world travelers…(i notice this every time im abroad…which is somewhat rare, but it has occurred)…

    is the US the only nation that actually puts ice (or more than say, one or two cubes) in a cold beverage?

    i was in…get this…a mickey d’s on the champs eleyses…(just had to, ya know??) and not only was my ‘supersize’ order smaller than a regular one here (back in about 1999…when they still had “supersize”)…there was NO ICE in my iced tea…WTF???

    noticed this in england and canada too

    is ice that much of an anathema elsewhere? is it ‘too expensive’? this one i just don’t get

    and the foreigners here are the same way…was in $tarbux the other day and some british chick ordered some iced coffee drink with “light ice” (and it was about half full of cubes)…to which she, quite snarkily i might said, “that’s NOT light ice…light ice is one or two cubes”…(of course, it didn’t help that the counter teen even more attitudinally replied…”it does here in AMERIKA”)

    (i would have told the british chick to check for spit in her ‘new, light-iced’ beverage…but well…she kind of deserved it)[/quote]

    A couple of years back, I took a vacation and in either Niagara Falls or NYC the MickeyDs and Burger Kings still charged for soda refills. I was thinking “It’s rare enough to find a fast food place that doesn’t have a serve yourself soda fountain in DC and you’re charging me for a refill?”

  • Teebz | August 21, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”285734″]Hockey news has an article on what one picture defines hockey. Has some good old time hockey uni goodness.

    http://www.thehockey...

    Man, I cannot wait for hockey to start up again…[/quote]

    Great pics in that article. Good find, Jim MI!

  • mmwatkin | August 21, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”285733″][quote comment=”285729″]More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?[/quote]

    Much like uniform tastes, common words that become “regionalized” have been discussed on here before. This is no different.[/quote]

    Sorry, but I do recall Paul stating in the comments section a while back that if you have to start your comment off with “not really uni-related, but…” then you shouldn’t post it to begin with. Low and behold we have that in today’s ticker.

    I love the comments section on this website. I don’t even read the ticker because everything in today’s ticker was in yesterday’s comment section. It just irks me that we had two new uniform unveilings and we end up talking about pop vs. soda.

    And another thing, how dumb is it to say, “here in _____ we call it _______” No shit….I have a color coded map to tell me that.

  • Patrick | August 21, 2008 at 2:35 pm |

    Just for fun, the Hornets recolored purple, green and yellow…

    http://img.photobuck...

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 2:35 pm |

    free refills?

  • Ed | August 21, 2008 at 2:37 pm |

    A moment of silence for Gene Upshaw…

  • Jim MI | August 21, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”285738″][quote comment=”285734″]Hockey news has an article on what one picture defines hockey. Has some good old time hockey uni goodness.

    http://www.thehockey...

    Man, I cannot wait for hockey to start up again…[/quote]

    Great pics in that article. Good find, Jim MI![/quote]

    I know Teebz, I could look at old time hockey photos ALL DAY!! I read that article and immediatlly went online trying to find the Bobby Orr photo for sale for my hockey memoribilla room. It’s a must have.

  • Justin in AR | August 21, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”285739″][quote comment=”285733″][quote comment=”285729″]More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?[/quote]

    Much like uniform tastes, common words that become “regionalized” have been discussed on here before. This is no different.[/quote]

    Sorry, but I do recall Paul stating in the comments section a while back that if you have to start your comment off with “not really uni-related, but…” then you shouldn’t post it to begin with. Low and behold we have that in today’s ticker.

    I love the comments section on this website. I don’t even read the ticker because everything in today’s ticker was in yesterday’s comment section. It just irks me that we had two new uniform unveilings and we end up talking about pop vs. soda.

    And another thing, how dumb is it to say, “here in _____ we call it _______” No shit….I have a color coded map to tell me that.[/quote]

    If you don’t read the ticker, then how do you know what was in today’s ticker?

  • mmwatkin | August 21, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”285744″][quote comment=”285739″][quote comment=”285733″][quote comment=”285729″]More importantly, what the fuck does pop vs. soda have to do with uniforms?[/quote]

    Much like uniform tastes, common words that become “regionalized” have been discussed on here before. This is no different.[/quote]

    Sorry, but I do recall Paul stating in the comments section a while back that if you have to start your comment off with “not really uni-related, but…” then you shouldn’t post it to begin with. Low and behold we have that in today’s ticker.

    I love the comments section on this website. I don’t even read the ticker because everything in today’s ticker was in yesterday’s comment section. It just irks me that we had two new uniform unveilings and we end up talking about pop vs. soda.

    And another thing, how dumb is it to say, “here in _____ we call it _______” No shit….I have a color coded map to tell me that.[/quote]

    If you don’t read the ticker, then how do you know what was in today’s ticker?[/quote]

    Again, 90%+ of what is in today’s ticker was in yesterday’s comment section. They are just copy and pasted.

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”285693″]Jags changed the stripes on their white pants. It’s a large black stripe flanked by white and teal stripes:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    From 1995 to 2007 it was a large teal stripe flanked by gold and black stripes:

    http://www.fredtaylo...

    That new stripe is pretty sweet, goes much better with the jersey, IMO. Get rid of that ridiculous logo on the sleeves, helmet…..ok just get a new logo and that’s one mighty fine lookin team.

  • Walaitis | August 21, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”285746″][quote comment=”285693″]Jags changed the stripes on their white pants. It’s a large black stripe flanked by white and teal stripes:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    From 1995 to 2007 it was a large teal stripe flanked by gold and black stripes:

    http://www.fredtaylo...

    That new stripe is pretty sweet, goes much better with the jersey, IMO. Get rid of that ridiculous logo on the sleeves, helmet…..ok just get a new logo and that’s one mighty fine lookin team.[/quote]

    Note to Dolphins: Teal doesn’t have to look weak

  • Teebz | August 21, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”285743″][quote comment=”285738″][quote comment=”285734″]Hockey news has an article on what one picture defines hockey. Has some good old time hockey uni goodness.

    http://www.thehockey...

    Man, I cannot wait for hockey to start up again…[/quote]

    Great pics in that article. Good find, Jim MI![/quote]

    I know Teebz, I could look at old time hockey photos ALL DAY!! I read that article and immediatlly went online trying to find the Bobby Orr photo for sale for my hockey memoribilla room. It’s a must have.[/quote]

    They have framed ones at River City Sports. They’re gorgeous but expensive.

  • Teebz | August 21, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”285739″]It just irks me that we had two new uniform unveilings and we end up talking about pop vs. soda.[/quote]

    Not all of us care about the NBA, though, so we turn to other topics… like the map that was presented in the ticker. In fact, I’d rather watch soap operas over the NBA, but that’s just me.

  • Anthony Verna | August 21, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”285643″][quote]Now, let me ask this: How many times have any of said, “I need a kleenex” or “I’ll xerox it so I have a copy” ?[/quote]

    i generally say “i’ll xerox it” (the so i have a copy part is usually implied)…

    lets keep this to coke, tho…not the ‘band aid’, ‘vaseline,’ ‘kleenex’ stuff (you know…the brand names that are synonymous with the overall genre of the product)[/quote]

    If I may jump in here. . . companies lose their trademarks when their marks become the generic words for those products. Remember that in the late 70s’early 80s, Xerox had commercials that said, “You don’t Xerox a Xerox on a Xerox,” showing that you make a photocopy on a Xerox-brand photocopier machine.

  • who cares | August 21, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    It’s a slow day so I’m posting this beautiful 1959 pic of Accra’s Hearts of Oak for the third time in the past month and hoping it will get some traction. It’s my all time favorite sports team and my all time favorite uniform and fortunately the general look gets revived by the club every few years to become the primary kit.

    http://sirismm.si.ed...

  • Samuel Lam | August 21, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”285746″][quote comment=”285693″]Jags changed the stripes on their white pants. It’s a large black stripe flanked by white and teal stripes:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    From 1995 to 2007 it was a large teal stripe flanked by gold and black stripes:

    http://www.fredtaylo...

    That new stripe is pretty sweet, goes much better with the jersey, IMO. Get rid of that ridiculous logo on the sleeves, helmet…..ok just get a new logo and that’s one mighty fine lookin team.[/quote]

    I think the Jags have the best logo in the NFL

  • Jim MI | August 21, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”285749″][quote comment=”285739″]It just irks me that we had two new uniform unveilings and we end up talking about pop vs. soda.[/quote]

    Not all of us care about the NBA, though, so we turn to other topics… like the map that was presented in the ticker. In fact, I’d rather watch soap operas over the NBA, but that’s just me.[/quote]

    Paint drying is more entertaining to me than NBA…

  • who cares | August 21, 2008 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”285752″][quote comment=”285746″][quote comment=”285693″]Jags changed the stripes on their white pants. It’s a large black stripe flanked by white and teal stripes:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    From 1995 to 2007 it was a large teal stripe flanked by gold and black stripes:

    http://www.fredtaylo...

    That new stripe is pretty sweet, goes much better with the jersey, IMO. Get rid of that ridiculous logo on the sleeves, helmet…..ok just get a new logo and that’s one mighty fine lookin team.[/quote]

    I think the Jags have the best logo in the NFL[/quote]

    Definitely teal, gold, black, gold, teal.
    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Jim MI | August 21, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”285748″][quote comment=”285743″][quote comment=”285738″][quote comment=”285734″]Hockey news has an article on what one picture defines hockey. Has some good old time hockey uni goodness.

    http://www.thehockey...

    Man, I cannot wait for hockey to start up again…[/quote]

    Great pics in that article. Good find, Jim MI![/quote]

    I know Teebz, I could look at old time hockey photos ALL DAY!! I read that article and immediatlly went online trying to find the Bobby Orr photo for sale for my hockey memoribilla room. It’s a must have.[/quote]

    They have framed ones at River City Sports. They’re gorgeous but expensive.[/quote]

    Yeah anything Bobby Orr autographs is expensive. It’s how he makes his living now, simular to Gordie Howe. It was so hard to find a Bobby Orr jersey for sale under 200 bucks. And that’s not even autographed!! Took MONTHS of searching to find one I could let myself buy. I was looking for just a black and white photo of ‘The Goal’, I can mat and frame it myself and it looks just as professional, i’ve done it many times. If I could only learn how to frame jerseys… now THAT is expensive!!

  • duckstyle | August 21, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”285752″][quote comment=”285746″][quote comment=”285693″]Jags changed the stripes on their white pants. It’s a large black stripe flanked by white and teal stripes:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    From 1995 to 2007 it was a large teal stripe flanked by gold and black stripes:

    http://www.fredtaylo...

    That new stripe is pretty sweet, goes much better with the jersey, IMO. Get rid of that ridiculous logo on the sleeves, helmet…..ok just get a new logo and that’s one mighty fine lookin team.[/quote]

    I think the Jags have the best logo in the NFL[/quote]

    I’d say their main logo is OK, at best. And the secondary logo used on the shoulders is terrible. I’ve always been a fan of simplistic lgos that play with font. I’m also just tired of every team nowadays having an angry (insert random animal here) as their mascot/logo.

  • Christopher | August 21, 2008 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”285740″]Just for fun, the Hornets recolored purple, green and yellow…

    http://img.photobuck...

    I know purple gets a lot of hate here, but I really dig that idea. Did you make this? This is EXACTLY what I was hoping for.

  • Paul Lukas | August 21, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”285745″]Again, 90%+ of what is in today’s ticker was in yesterday’s comment section. They are just copy and pasted.[/quote]

    Um, no. Almost NONE of today’s Ticker was in yesterday’s comments.

    That said: I think we’ve taken the soda/pop/etc. thing as far as it needs to go. Let’s move on, please. Thanks.

  • chance | August 21, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”285756″][quote comment=”285752″][quote comment=”285746″][quote comment=”285693″]Jags changed the stripes on their white pants. It’s a large black stripe flanked by white and teal stripes:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    From 1995 to 2007 it was a large teal stripe flanked by gold and black stripes:

    http://www.fredtaylo...

    That new stripe is pretty sweet, goes much better with the jersey, IMO. Get rid of that ridiculous logo on the sleeves, helmet…..ok just get a new logo and that’s one mighty fine lookin team.[/quote]

    I think the Jags have the best logo in the NFL[/quote]

    I’d say their main logo is OK, at best. And the secondary logo used on the shoulders is terrible. I’ve always been a fan of simplistic lgos that play with font. I’m also just tired of every team nowadays having an angry (insert random animal here) as their mascot/logo.[/quote]

    I wouldn’t even say “OK” – every cat owner recognizes “hairball face” when he sees it….

  • Roger Faso | August 21, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    Does this …

    http://sports.yahoo....

    … mean they are all retiring?

  • who cares | August 21, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    Gotta love these school uniforms from eastern Uganda.

    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

  • Brad | August 21, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”285667″][quote comment=”285662″][quote comment=”285649″]
    As a fellow Arkansawyer (who grew up in St. Louis), I quickly learned that if’n one wanted a Coca-Cola, one asked for a “Co-Cola”… since my native-Arkansawyer bride and I actually prefer Coke, no problem![/quote]

    Warren: Did he just say blindness?
    Count Blah: Yeah, blah. He also said “if’n”.

    Classic obscure comedy from Greg The Bunny… another hilarious show canceled by the jerk-asses who run the Fox Network. If any of you saw the Paintball episode, you know what I’m talking about.

    No one? Dammit.[/quote]

    yet another reason i like ya teebz :o)…

    back before greg the bunny was even ON tv…a guy i worked with got preview (VHS back then) tapes of the first six episodes of that show…fell in f’n love with it then…and still think it was one of the best shows never to gain any mass audience…prolly because the mass audience didn’t Get It (TM) …

    that had seth green and that sarah silverman chick…and the dad from american pie, yes?

    …just did a quick search and found the complete series is on dvd…may have to pick that up

    …not quite in the same comedy genre, but as funny as “arrested development”…another hilarious show no one seemed to watch[/quote]
    Yeah, Arrested Development, in my opinion, is the 2nd best TV show of all time. FOX screwed up bad in cancelling that, as well as Firefly.

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”285716″]As for the Hornets new unis … will Air Jordans be standard issue as well?

    http://360oz.files.w...

    To be correct, those are Air Jordan V/Air Force 1 Fusions.

    Why would they be standard issue?

  • Walaitis | August 21, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”285760″]Does this …

    http://sports.yahoo....

    … mean they are all retiring?[/quote]

    It just means that if Japan is going to score any more runs at that ballpark, they’re going to have to deal with quite a stench to do so.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote] I think we’ve taken the soda/pop/etc. thing as far as it needs to go. Let’s move on, please. Thanks.[/quote]

    indeed…one last question tho…what do YOU call it?

  • Walaitis | August 21, 2008 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”285763″][quote comment=”285716″]As for the Hornets new unis … will Air Jordans be standard issue as well?

    http://360oz.files.w...

    To be correct, those are Air Jordan V/Air Force 1 Fusions.

    Why would they be standard issue?[/quote]

    If the rest of what #08 (you know, MR.ABCDEFG) is wearing is standard issue, why wouldn’t his shoes?

  • Justin in AR | August 21, 2008 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”285760″]Does this …

    http://sports.yahoo....

    … mean they are all retiring?[/quote]

    Yup. Five of them are. The five that left their spikes at the plate are retiring from international competition.

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”285766″][quote comment=”285763″][quote comment=”285716″]As for the Hornets new unis … will Air Jordans be standard issue as well?

    http://360oz.files.w...

    To be correct, those are Air Jordan V/Air Force 1 Fusions.

    Why would they be standard issue?[/quote]

    If the rest of what #08 (you know, MR.ABCDEFG) is wearing is standard issue, why wouldn’t his shoes?[/quote]

    Regarding shoes, was gonna ask why the yellow laces (on T’Wolves blue uni modeller-guy).

  • Dave H. | August 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”285760″]Does this …

    http://sports.yahoo....

    … mean they are all retiring?[/quote]

    Well, since the sport is being dropped from the Olympic Games, in a sense, yes, they are all retiring.

    Which leads to the question of what Misty May-Traynor and Kerri Walsh could have left on the court to announce their retirements.

  • Patrick | August 21, 2008 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”285757″][quote comment=”285740″]Just for fun, the Hornets recolored purple, green and yellow…

    http://img.photobuck...

    I know purple gets a lot of hate here, but I really dig that idea. Did you make this? This is EXACTLY what I was hoping for.[/quote]

    Yes, I did it this morning just to see what it would look like. And I do wish they’d gone with those colors.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote]Which leads to the question of what Misty May-Traynor and Kerri Walsh could have left on the court to announce their retirements.[/quote]

    misty left some of her mom’s ashes

  • zip | August 21, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    Well in New Orleans it is none of these things.

    We have “cold drinks.”

  • Nicole | August 21, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”285720″][quote comment=”285719″][quote comment=”285715″]To me, saying “I’m going to Xerox this” is a totally dated phrase – only old people say this![/quote]

    That doesn’t mean the usage wasn’t part of the vernacular at one time or another…and that was the point.

    But thank you for sharing that the point of view of those younger than 30 decides everything.[/quote]

    just to add onto what ricko said…the ‘machine which makes copies’ in my office is made by…

    wait for it…

    xerox

    so, it’s not dated…it might not be what you kids say (what do you say anyway?)…

    i mean if i said “ditto machine” (like yesterday), you’d have a point…but whatever[/quote]

    Wow, didn’t think anyone would get offended. Touchy folks today, or what?

    I just meant that you don’t hear that phrase much anymore. I thought most people just said Copy. There’s a wide range of ages in my office and we all use copy. Xerox is so uncommon to me that when I hear someone say it, I usually note it and think how strange it sounds. It just comes off like a phrase from another generation.

    Ricko, why the jab about people under 30? Seems a bit much when all I said was that a phrase sounds dated TO ME.

  • Chris | August 21, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”285769″][quote comment=”285760″]Does this …

    http://sports.yahoo....

    … mean they are all retiring?[/quote]

    Well, since the sport is being dropped from the Olympic Games, in a sense, yes, they are all retiring.

    Which leads to the question of what Misty May-Traynor and Kerri Walsh could have left on the court to announce their retirements.[/quote]
    Baseball and softball can come back, but not until 2016 at the earliest. However, if Chicago gets the 2016 Summer Olympics then it’s a safe bet that they will return to the Olympics, if only as a demonstration sport.

  • Kerry P | August 21, 2008 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”285681″]Regarding the Hornets:

    New typography is a huge improvement. And I love the Fleur de Bee logo on the shorts. But…

    they totally screwed up by adding the pinstripes, which didn’t look good in Charlotte, either. And the colors are another missed opportunity. This would have been the perfect time to go with purple/green/yellow (NO is one of very few cities that are so closely associated with a color scheme…you’d think they’d capitalize on that), and yet they chose…whatever that blue is. Stupid.[/quote]
    That’s what I’ve been saying since the team came down here. And ESPECIALLY after they added the gold/yellow to the color-scheme. Just complete the transition. You don’t need to keep TEAL (calling it “Creole Blue” doesn’t change the fact that it’s TEAL) just to have some kind of connection with your past. You still have the “Hornets” nickname for that. Lose the pinstripes and change to green and these unis would be GREAT!

  • =bg= | August 21, 2008 at 4:55 pm |

    http://sports.yahoo....

    leaving cleats @ home plate? why?

  • Nicole | August 21, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    The thing with the purple, green and gold is that it’s SO overdone in terms of New Orleans. We’re very picky about when it’s Mardi Gras and when it’s not. Only tourists pretend it’s a party all year and wear beads every day.

    Making everything in New Orleans purple, green and gold/Mardi Gras is like saying everything in New York should be red and have apples on it. Or everything in Florida should be orange and have Sunshine or Citrus on it.

  • =bg= | August 21, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    Whoops, I see this is already addressed.

  • zip | August 21, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”285778″]The thing with the purple, green and gold is that it’s SO overdone in terms of New Orleans. We’re very picky about when it’s Mardi Gras and when it’s not. Only tourists pretend it’s a party all year and wear beads every day. quote]

    Don;t you just want to go snatch those beads right off their neck?

  • Kerry P | August 21, 2008 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”285778″]The thing with the purple, green and gold is that it’s SO overdone in terms of New Orleans. We’re very picky about when it’s Mardi Gras and when it’s not. Only tourists pretend it’s a party all year and wear beads every day.

    Making everything in New Orleans purple, green and gold/Mardi Gras is like saying everything in New York should be red and have apples on it. Or everything in Florida should be orange and have Sunshine or Citrus on it.[/quote]
    So overdone? How so? I don’t see it overdone on anything except maybe on all of the fleur-de-lis flags hanging in the French Quarter and the rest of the city. But even then you have numerous variations to those flags in multiple colors.

    I have NO PROBLEM with the team trying to connect with the city by using purple, GREEN and gold. I think it’s a better color-combination and a smart move.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    so…no love for a return to this color for the hornets 3rd uni?

  • Nicole | August 21, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

    It’s overdone in that it’s all that anyone says/thinks/does when it comes to New Orleans. Mardi Gras is such a small part and yet it’s the only identifier people use. For the tourists intents and purposes, Mardi Gras isn’t even a week – they don’t even know it’s a whole season – and yet that one week defines the city.

    I saw a show recently where they threw a New Orleans couple a Mardi Gras themed wedding and thought they were being clever. All I could think was how disappointed I’d be if that were my wedding.

    I used to live in NOLA and I live in Wisconsin now. To me, it’s like when someone makes a cow or cheese joke here as though it’s the first time we’ve heard it. It’s not all Wisconsin is – you wouldn’t say we should have cheese yellow jerseys, right? And in that respect, Mardi Gras is not the only identifier for New Orleans/Louisiana.

  • Nicole | August 21, 2008 at 5:20 pm |

    The word I’m looking for is trite. I find the use of Mardi Gras motif trite. It doesn’t show creativity or forward-thinking – it’s predictable.

  • Kerry P | August 21, 2008 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”285783″]It’s overdone in that it’s all that anyone says/thinks/does when it comes to New Orleans. Mardi Gras is such a small part and yet it’s the only identifier people use. For the tourists intents and purposes, Mardi Gras isn’t even a week – they don’t even know it’s a whole season – and yet that one week defines the city.

    I saw a show recently where they threw a New Orleans couple a Mardi Gras themed wedding and thought they were being clever. All I could think was how disappointed I’d be if that were my wedding.

    I used to live in NOLA and I live in Wisconsin now. To me, it’s like when someone makes a cow or cheese joke here as though it’s the first time we’ve heard it. It’s not all Wisconsin is – you wouldn’t say we should have cheese yellow jerseys, right? And in that respect, Mardi Gras is not the only identifier for New Orleans/Louisiana.[/quote]
    I still live in the New Orleans area and I think that Mardi Gras is a significant part of the region’s identity. Yes tourists walk around all the time with beads…but that’s because all of the shops in the quarter SELL beads year-round. I don’t think most tourists assume Mardi Gras to be a year-round thing, either. As for being over-done, when you walk around the city it’s evident that it’s not.

    I think the fans of this team, this city and this region would LOVE a change to green from teal. It’s a throwback to New Orleans’ original NBA days with the Jazz and it’s something meaningful to the city. Too often, we see sports teams that really don’t try to make a connection with the local culture. The Hornets are DEFINITELY trying to do that and this would only further that bond.

  • Kerry P | August 21, 2008 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”285782″]so…no love for a return to this color for the hornets 3rd uni?[/quote]
    Personally, I liked those yellow alts much more than the teal away unis. But I think I’m in the minority (at least on this blog).

  • Brendan | August 21, 2008 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”285751″]It’s a slow day so I’m posting this beautiful 1959 pic of Accra’s Hearts of Oak for the third time in the past month and hoping it will get some traction. It’s my all time favorite sports team and my all time favorite uniform and fortunately the general look gets revived by the club every few years to become the primary kit.

    http://sirismm.si.ed...

    And right after the match the team’s heading down to Hot Dog on a Stick.

  • Bryan Redemske | August 21, 2008 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”285669″]
    Maybe it’s just my social group here in Iowa, but we’re the exact opposite. Pop = Soft drink, Sodas = Beers[/quote]

    It’s totally your social group. I grew up in Iowa and never called beer soda. It’s beer.

  • Brendan | August 21, 2008 at 5:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”285786″][quote comment=”285782″]so…no love for a return to this color for the hornets 3rd uni?[/quote]
    Personally, I liked those yellow alts much more than the teal away unis. But I think I’m in the minority (at least on this blog).[/quote]

    I like them, too. Especially paired with those shoes! And the logo count for that pic is different than what we’re used to:
    NBA: 4
    Kings: 2
    Nike: 1

  • Ernie Ballard | August 21, 2008 at 5:39 pm |

    Thanks for the Hornets feature. At first I was not a fan of the hornets unis, too similar to Charlotte days…but when compared to what we had in New Orleans, I see them as a improvement.

    Here’s my breakdown of the uniforms:
    http://gulfcoastoffe...

  • Aram | August 21, 2008 at 5:40 pm |

    http://michiganhocke...

    Looks like the new Michigan home hockey jerseys will indeed have numbers on the front of the jersey as well, just like the 1950’s-60’s jerseys they are designed after. AWESOME.

  • KT | August 21, 2008 at 5:53 pm |

    How about “barley pop?”

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 6:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”285774″][quote comment=”285720″][quote comment=”285719″][quote comment=”285715″]To me, saying “I’m going to Xerox this” is a totally dated phrase – only old people say this![/quote]

    That doesn’t mean the usage wasn’t part of the vernacular at one time or another…and that was the point.

    But thank you for sharing that the point of view of those younger than 30 decides everything.[/quote]

    just to add onto what ricko said…the ‘machine which makes copies’ in my office is made by…

    wait for it…

    xerox

    so, it’s not dated…it might not be what you kids say (what do you say anyway?)…

    i mean if i said “ditto machine” (like yesterday), you’d have a point…but whatever[/quote]

    Wow, didn’t think anyone would get offended. Touchy folks today, or what?

    I just meant that you don’t hear that phrase much anymore. I thought most people just said Copy. There’s a wide range of ages in my office and we all use copy. Xerox is so uncommon to me that when I hear someone say it, I usually note it and think how strange it sounds. It just comes off like a phrase from another generation.

    Ricko, why the jab about people under 30? Seems a bit much when all I said was that a phrase sounds dated TO ME.[/quote]

    No reason whatosever to have said, “a totally dated phrase – only old people say this!”

    What did a time component or anyone’s age have to do with what I’d written? Issue was THAT the phrase had been said, not WHEN. Was talking about product names becoming generic, and “Xerox” is one of best examples in the past 50 years.

    Just because something happened before someone was born doesn’t make it irrelvent…or even necessarily outdated.

    That being said, Nicole, I also apologize. I’m a year older today (with a LOT more years behind me than ahead of me…”three-quarters home from the start to the end”), and I’m surprised that it’s getting to me more than I though it would. So I guess I kinda got a sore spot there.

    Tomorrow I’ll be back to bitching about normal stuff like NBA pantaloons with their stylish hemlines.

  • who cares | August 21, 2008 at 6:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”285778″]The thing with the purple, green and gold is that it’s SO overdone in terms of New Orleans. We’re very picky about when it’s Mardi Gras and when it’s not. Only tourists pretend it’s a party all year and wear beads every day.

    Making everything in New Orleans purple, green and gold/Mardi Gras is like saying everything in New York should be red and have apples on it. Or everything in Florida should be orange and have Sunshine or Citrus on it.[/quote]

    You should tell that to all the LSU fans who visit every SEC city with their beads and projectile vomiting.

  • LI Phil | August 21, 2008 at 6:24 pm |

    well shit…

    happy 80th birthday ricko!

    i, mean, mr. pearson, sir

    ;)

  • JoshP | August 21, 2008 at 6:24 pm |

    Jets going in green for first game, not in Titans jerseys as originally planned.

    Also, not sure if this was previously posted, but Jets’ patch for their game against the Chiefs for an anniversary of Super Bowl III

    http://www.newyorkje...

  • jrg | August 21, 2008 at 6:33 pm |

    Twenty years from now, kids will ask: “Why are football players’ shorts called pants and baskeball players’ pants called shorts?”

    They’re already just about the same length.

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”285789″][quote comment=”285786″][quote comment=”285782″]so…no love for a return to this color for the hornets 3rd uni?[/quote]
    Personally, I liked those yellow alts much more than the teal away unis. But I think I’m in the minority (at least on this blog).[/quote]

    I like them, too. Especially paired with those shoes! And the logo count for that pic is different than what we’re used to:
    NBA: 4
    Kings: 2
    Nike: 1[/quote]

    Nike Air Huarache Elite PE(Player Exclusive)
    Chris Paul now has his own line of signature shoes made by Jordan Brand the CP3:

    http://slamonline.co...

    http://www.sneakerfi...

    http://i.tsn.com/i/p...

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 6:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”285768″][quote comment=”285766″][quote comment=”285763″][quote comment=”285716″]As for the Hornets new unis … will Air Jordans be standard issue as well?

    http://360oz.files.w...

    To be correct, those are Air Jordan V/Air Force 1 Fusions.

    Why would they be standard issue?[/quote]

    If the rest of what #08 (you know, MR.ABCDEFG) is wearing is standard issue, why wouldn’t his shoes?[/quote]

    Regarding shoes, was gonna ask why the yellow laces (on T’Wolves blue uni modeller-guy).[/quote]

    Mike Miller, not a WNBA player, is the pictured T-Wolf. He is an Adidas endorsed athlete. For promo pics like that, they usually wear their street/casual shoes!

  • Beeker | August 21, 2008 at 6:50 pm |

    Well, here’s one more non-sports related uniform news item.

    NWA flight attendants to wear Delta uniforms
    Associated Press

    ATLANTA – Delta Air Lines Inc. wants its flight attendants’ uniforms, designed by Richard Tyler, to be worn by Northwest Airlines Corp. flight attendants in spring 2009.

    Atlanta-based Delta is seeking to buy Eagan, Minn.-based Northwest in a stock-swap deal that would create the world’s largest carrier. The deal, announced April 14, is expected to close by the end of this year.

    A joint company memo to flight attendants of both airlines on Thursday said that in the coming days Northwest flight attendants will receive details on upcoming “style clinics” that will show off the uniforms worn by Delta flight attendants.

    At those sessions, Northwest flight attendants will get to try on the uniforms and choose which pieces work best for them, Delta spokeswoman Betsy Talton said. Delta flight attendants will be there to offer assistance, Talton said.

    Delta hired Tyler in 2004 to do a makeover of some employee uniforms. At the time, Tyler said he wanted the uniforms to “look sexy and great” while keeping a “classic look” as well.

    The uniforms for Delta flight attendants, gate and ticket agents and airport lounge officials got a complete makeover — from their shirts or blouses to their pants, gloves, hats and scarves. The uniforms debuted in 2006.

    Tyler’s dresses have been worn by stars such as Julia Roberts, Heather Locklear and Jamie Lee Curtis.

    According to Delta, there are 14,000 Delta flight attendants and 8,000 Northwest flight attendants.

  • Ed | August 21, 2008 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”285788″][quote comment=”285669″]
    Maybe it’s just my social group here in Iowa, but we’re the exact opposite. Pop = Soft drink, Sodas = Beers[/quote]

    It’s totally your social group. I grew up in Iowa and never called beer soda. It’s beer.[/quote]

    I call a pint of Guinness an “Irish Soda.”

    Isn’t this blog supposed to be about athletic uniforms, by the way?

  • douglas | August 21, 2008 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”285682″]question for all you foreigners and world travelers…(i notice this every time im abroad…which is somewhat rare, but it has occurred)…

    is the US the only nation that actually puts ice (or more than say, one or two cubes) in a cold beverage?

    i was in…get this…a mickey d’s on the champs eleyses…(just had to, ya know??) and not only was my ‘supersize’ order smaller than a regular one here (back in about 1999…when they still had “supersize”)…there was NO ICE in my iced tea…WTF???

    noticed this in england and canada too

    is ice that much of an anathema elsewhere? is it ‘too expensive’? this one i just don’t get

    and the foreigners here are the same way…was in $tarbux the other day and some british chick ordered some iced coffee drink with “light ice” (and it was about half full of cubes)…to which she, quite snarkily i might said, “that’s NOT light ice…light ice is one or two cubes”…(of course, it didn’t help that the counter teen even more attitudinally replied…”it does here in AMERIKA”)

    (i would have told the british chick to check for spit in her ‘new, light-iced’ beverage…but well…she kind of deserved it)[/quote]

    The main reason is the absence of free fountains. Customers feel ripped off when they paid for a glass of soda and get half of it filled with ice, which will turn to water in the middle of the meal.
    The image of Mickey D’s (Mac Do here) here varies from a symbol of all corporate evil to the AnteChrist himself. It’s also an easy target for everyone who just hates USA but don’t wanna end up in Guantanamo.
    And yes, we would also get a medal if spit-in-the-food was in the Olympics, especially if there’s a cop at the register.

  • Shaun P | August 21, 2008 at 7:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”285740″]Just for fun, the Hornets recolored purple, green and yellow…

    http://img.photobuck...
    [quote comment=”285783″]

    “I used to live in NOLA and I live in Wisconsin now. To me, it’s like when someone makes a cow or cheese joke here as though it’s the first time we’ve heard it. It’s not all Wisconsin is – you wouldn’t say we should have cheese yellow jerseys, right? And in that respect, Mardi Gras is not the only identifier for New Orleans/Louisiana.”[/quote]

    Yeah, but last I checked the Packers wear cheese yellow helmets and their fans wear cheese hats. Like it or not, Mardi Gras is the biggest identifier for NOLA and therefore should be used to identify the team with it’s city. It’s not we’re saying that the neckline should look like a bunch of beads. Just that they missed a chance to make that franchise’s look unique to New Orleans. When I look at the new jerseys, I still see Charlotte.

  • Joe D | August 21, 2008 at 7:38 pm |

    http://blogs.tampaba...

    St Pete Times Lightning beat reporter has a scoop on what Mike Smith and Olaf Kolzig plan to have designed on their masks. No pictures, just Smith’s mask from last season after being traded from Dallas.

  • Frankie | August 21, 2008 at 7:47 pm |

    As a Miami Dolphins fan, I’m very upset with the news from last week that Parcells is looking to fuck with what I believe to be one of the best uniforms in the NFL. However, the Dolphins have brought back the aqua pants with the white striped socks this year. If I recall correctly, Saban did away with these when he took over, and Cameron just stayed with not having them. I’m glad that Parcells did bring these back.

    On a seperate not, I attend the University of the Pacific in Stockton, CA. We have no football team on campus (gone since the ’95 season I believe) so basketball is the big sport on campus. Our team has had some success in the past, taking Boston College to triple overtime in the tournament 3 years ago. Anyway, our team has been sponsored by And 1 for as long as I can remember. The team had nice uniforms my freshman year, and got new ones last year. I was at work today in our new University Center and 2 members of the coaching staff came in to reserve a room for a recruitment lunch. While talking with them I noticed that one of the coaches was wearing a Pacific Basketball shirt that was Nike. Before he left I asked if they had left And 1 for Nike (each sport on campus has its own deal; Women’s soccer is Nike, softball is adidas, baseball is New Balance, etc.) He told me that they had been with And 1 for 6 years and that the contract had expired in April and that they were indeed switching over to Nike. Anyway, he looked at me like I was slightly weird, but at least I know our team is probably going to have its third different uniform in the past 3 years.

  • Ricko | August 21, 2008 at 7:52 pm |

    Supposedly Mickey Mantle’s favorite song, and Roy Clark sang it his funeral.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    —Ricko

  • jaye | August 21, 2008 at 8:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”285777″]http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/softball/gallery#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cap%3A20050301%3Aoly%2Cphoto%2Cf150438ccb0f4e148a4bb3f5ca0906d3.beijing_olympics_softballl_oly1479%3A1

    leaving cleats @ home plate? why?[/quote]

    According to the story, they were “saying goodbye to the game they loved.”

  • S. Bennett | August 21, 2008 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”285751″]It’s a slow day so I’m posting this beautiful 1959 pic of Accra’s Hearts of Oak for the third time in the past month and hoping it will get some traction. It’s my all time favorite sports team and my all time favorite uniform and fortunately the general look gets revived by the club every few years to become the primary kit.

    http://sirismm.si.ed...

    I’ll take teh bait!

    Good kit, but I’m still partial to Heerenveen’s uniform:

    http://www.subsidesp...

    And occasionally, my pals and I will call beer “wobbly pops” but it’s still Beer.

    SB

  • Flip | August 21, 2008 at 8:25 pm |

    late to the game today.

    Yes, I say xerox when I mean copy. I also used carbon paper. It was soda pop when I was growing up in Kansas.

    Unis? I was a fan of the Charlotte pin stripes, but not so much of the teal. So the Hornets redos are OK by me, but those purple and green photoshopped versions are sweet. (Will that get me in trouble with the Adobe folks?)

    The T-Wolves? I couldn’t understand when they rolled out the franchise that their uniforms had simply “Wolves.” Scrapping the full name was a step backward in my book. Timberwolves and Minnesota both stretch across a jersey pretty far.

    Finally, RIP Gene Upshaw. I grew up a Chiefs fan (still am), but he was one classy Raider.

  • Jeff P | August 21, 2008 at 8:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”285682″]question for all you foreigners and world travelers…(i notice this every time im abroad…which is somewhat rare, but it has occurred)…

    is the US the only nation that actually puts ice (or more than say, one or two cubes) in a cold beverage?

    i was in…get this…a mickey d’s on the champs eleyses…(just had to, ya know??) and not only was my ‘supersize’ order smaller than a regular one here (back in about 1999…when they still had “supersize”)…there was NO ICE in my iced tea…WTF???

    noticed this in england and canada too

    is ice that much of an anathema elsewhere? is it ‘too expensive’? this one i just don’t get

    and the foreigners here are the same way…was in $tarbux the other day and some british chick ordered some iced coffee drink with “light ice” (and it was about half full of cubes)…to which she, quite snarkily i might said, “that’s NOT light ice…light ice is one or two cubes”…(of course, it didn’t help that the counter teen even more attitudinally replied…”it does here in AMERIKA”)

    (i would have told the british chick to check for spit in her ‘new, light-iced’ beverage…but well…she kind of deserved it)[/quote]
    It dilutes the drink. And gives you much more drink in the cup. Great for movie theaters taht fill your cup more then halfway with crushed ice.

    “I’d like a small drink with no ice please.”
    -Goes to machine and has to punch the automated button about 5 times to fill the cup… You get almost as much soda as a large…

    And even in the south, I’ve only heard it called soda. If you ask me for a Coke, you’re getting a damned coke.

  • Benjamin Bonnet | August 21, 2008 at 9:45 pm |

    Keith Hernandez just called the Mets pants pajama pants in the bottom of the 8th.

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 9:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”285811″]Keith Hernandez just called the Mets pants pajama pants in the bottom of the 8th.[/quote]

    Bottom Eighth Braves/Mets
    Damion Easley pulls a ball foul…it goes THROUGH the webbing in Chipper’s glove…Gary Cohen/Ed Coleman? talks about the crisscross webbing casuing the problem and is amazed that Jones doesn’t switch gloves.

    Next batter is Ramon Castro….Their commentator along the firstbase line talks about how close he is to the action. He notics how strong Reyes arm is as well as “How low the players wear their pants”.
    COhen then jumps in talking about how they use elastic to cuff them under their heels making them look like “pajama Pants”. Cohen then hearkens back to George/Ted Hendrick being the person to start this trend.

    He then mentions that he remembers Derek Bell as being the Met who wore the baggiest uniform, stating that you could have “fit two guys in there’!

    Even my wife realized that this is a Uni-moment!

  • who cares | August 21, 2008 at 10:04 pm |

    It’s a uniform and some people consider being kick ass a sport.

    http://bp1.blogger.c...(1975)%2520Reign%2520Beaus%27%2520End.jpg

  • Benjamin Bonnet | August 21, 2008 at 10:09 pm |

    The Mets are wearing rally caps in the bottom of the 9th and all of the players have the number written on the inside. I know that they have to have some way to identify their hats, but I have never seen that.

  • =bg= | August 21, 2008 at 10:16 pm |

    prolly a 63 patch for the Rayduhz..
    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • Malone | August 21, 2008 at 10:24 pm |

    Lets hope the Hornets bring back the honeycomb key along with the pinstripes. Though I’m glad that the old teal changing to purple court between the key and the three point line is gone forever.

  • LarenR | August 21, 2008 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”285813″]It’s a uniform and some people consider being kick ass a sport.

    http://bp1.blogger.c...(1975)%2520Reign%2520Beaus%27%2520End.jpg%5B/quote%5D
    ummm…what!?

  • MPowers1634 | August 21, 2008 at 11:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”285812″][quote comment=”285811″]Keith Hernandez just called the Mets pants pajama pants in the bottom of the 8th.[/quote]

    Bottom Eighth Braves/Mets
    Damion Easley pulls a ball foul…it goes THROUGH the webbing in Chipper’s glove…Gary Cohen/Ed Coleman? talks about the crisscross webbing casuing the problem and is amazed that Jones doesn’t switch gloves.

    Next batter is Ramon Castro….Their commentator along the firstbase line talks about how close he is to the action. He notics how strong Reyes arm is as well as “How low the players wear their pants”.
    COhen then jumps in talking about how they use elastic to cuff them under their heels making them look like “pajama Pants”. Cohen then hearkens back to George/Ted Hendrick being the person to start this trend.

    He then mentions that he remembers Derek Bell as being the Met who wore the baggiest uniform, stating that you could have “fit two guys in there’!

    Even my wife realized that this is a Uni-moment![/quote]

    After the game, Wright was interviewed for scoring the winning run, diving headfirst int home, and the reporter warned that Charlie Samuel is going to need a whole box of tide!

  • =bg= | August 21, 2008 at 11:23 pm |

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Peyton switching from Reebok to Adidas? (Look close.)

  • Patrick S. | August 22, 2008 at 12:28 am |

    OK, late to the show per usual…I love the concept of the fleur-de-bee on the NOLA shorts but it reminds me of this http://pack127.net/i...

    Anyone else?

  • Teebz | August 22, 2008 at 1:20 am |

    [quote comment=”285819″]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo?slug=7004aa570be24217a2a1b8341525247a.colts_peyton_appears_football_inmc109&prov=ap

    Peyton switching from Reebok to Adidas? (Look close.)[/quote]

    Considering that adidas owns Reebok, this is more like switching from Taco Bell to KFC – same company, different logo. ;o)

  • chance | August 22, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”285590″]Dayton Ducks jersey….I….must….get one!!!!

    That might be one of my favorite old flannels that includes a logo.[/quote]

    Ebbets Field Flannels will make one for you.