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Kasper the Uni-Friendly Host

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Broadcasters usually don’t discuss uni-related matters unless they’re bored in the middle of a lopsided game. But Len Kasper and Bob Brenly were apparently in a Uni Watch state of mind right off the bat yesterday, holding forth on a wide range of topics in the top of the 1st. Let’s listen in:

Kasper: That brings up Doug Mientkiewicz. Mientkiewicz with 12 letters in his surname. Back in 1999, when he was with the Twins, they had Doug Mientkiewicz Night — anyone with a 12-letter last name got in for a dollar. [Camera shows front view of Mientkiewicz.] Oh, look, looks like he, uh, has — oh, no he doesn’t. Is it buttoned at the top?

Brenly: I think he might have one extra button done up today.

Kasper: He has a button [fastened] above the “Pittsburgh” on his jersey. That was not the case in the first two games [of this series].

Brenly: Makin’ a fashion statement today.

Kasper: Although he skipped one in the middle. I have no idea why we’ve been so fascinated with that, but you brought it up. And it’s been a little distracting, to be honest.

Brenly: Maybe get some Velcro on the front of that jersey.

Kasper: He obviously has problems with buttons. [Mientkiewicz flies out.] You never got the chance to wear vests. The Pirates wearing the vests, that’s kind of an old-school look.

Brenly: We had vests in Arizona that we would wear from time to time. But as a player, no, we were pretty traditional in San Francisco. I mean, other than the orange jerseys and orange sanitaries that we wore one year — that wasn’t quite traditional. But at least as far as the shirts themselves, we were traditional.

Kasper: It was traditional to 1981. Or so.

[By this time, two pitches have already been thrown to the next hitter, Nate McLouth. He eventually runs the count full and fouls off a pitch before walking, bringing Ryan Doumit to the plate. More than three minutes elapse during this span. Under normal circumstances, that would be all the uni-related chatter we’d hear — broadcasters almost never veer back into Uni Watch territory a second time. But as you’ll see, Kasper and Brenly were clearly loaded for uni-centric bear yesterday.]

Kasper: Doumit’s going with that unbuttoned look, too. I think the problem is that they need a button right in the middle of the letters. With the top two buttons it’s too buttoned up, and with the top two unbuttoned it’s too unbuttoned. See, they need one right in the middle of the “B.” Then I think everybody’d be happy. [Brenly cracks up.] That’s just me.

Brenly: Tim Gunn’ll be in later in the game to help analyze the various fashion statements.

Kasper: It — we’re getting to the point where it’s absurd, but you do wonder, at what point would Bob Watson make a phone call? Four buttons? That has been a big issue over the past few years, y’know, the pants too low, the shirts untucked…

Brenly: The fashion police. Yeah.

Kasper: Even the cleats that the players wear have to be at least 51% their team’s predominant color. You see some of the Cubs have have a little bit of white, a little bit of red, on their blue shoes, but they’d better be at least 51% blue.

And at that point the discussion turned to non-uniform matters.

A few thoughts:

• Brenly and Kasper are clearly unfamiliar with the “pro button style,” as the Pirates’ button spacing is known. They might find this column instructive.

• It’s interesting to hear Brenly — whose big league debut came in 1981 — referring to the Giants’ orange jerseys and sanitaries. According to Dressed to the Nines, the last season of the orange sanitaries was 1980. But you’d have to figure Brenly wouldn’t go out of his way to mention something like that unless he’d actually worn the orange hose. Sounds like another case of Okkonen/Nines not being quite accurate. And I don’t mean that in a “Gotcha!” kind of way — I’m simply mentioning it as another reminder that (a) we shouldn’t always take web-based databases (or books, or Uni Watch posts) as gospel, and (b) uniforms were rarely as standardized as database breakdowns make them seem.

Meanwhile, speaking of buttons, the Pedro porthole was on display once again on Friday night (plus it also appeared on Saturday, in the personage of Charlie Morton). Mark your calendars for September 22nd through 25th, when the Cubs visit Shea Stadium — if Pedro pitches in that series, Kasper may just go into buttonhole-induced apoplexy.

(Thanks to Andrew Joseph for alerting me to the Kasper/Brenly discussion, and to Robert Jones and Mike Chamernik for their screen grabs.)

Raffle Results: The winner of the Distant Replays raffle is Chris Scavo. Congrats to him, and my thanks to all who entered. I’ll be announcing another raffle tomorrow.

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Uni Watch Road Trip Update: As some of you know, I’ll be in Oregon later this month and would like to convene a Uni Watch party in Portland. I’d originally planned to do this on Friday the 15th, but then I got an impassioned plea from Portland’s own Jeremy Brahm, informing me that he’d be out of town on the 15th but would be available on Sunday the 17th.

Now, I normally wouldn’t rejigger my schedule just to suit the whims of one reader. But anyone who’s read this site for any length of time knows that Jeremy is no ordinary Uni Watcher (and not just because he’s the only membership program enrollee with a kanji uniform number), so Sunday the 17th it shall be. Figure on 2pm, with the venue still to be determined. Further details forthcoming soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: I didn’t watch the Hall of Fame Game, but several readers noted that the officials were wearing new pants with big-ass piping — ugh. An NFL contact confirms that these are the new pants for this season (big thanks to Phil Hecken for the screen grab). … Speaking of officiating attire, Collateral Gammage and I were at Coney Island on Saturday and stopped at the always-wonderful Ruby’s, where I noticed this Corona ad. … There’s a slideshow of Georgia Tech’s new football uniforms here. Amidst all the feedback I’ve heard (most of it negative), the best observation comes from Josh Nachtigal, who notes, “These uniforms are actually based on a template that Russell designed for the AFL” — not exactly the aesthetic heritage you want for your football program. As noted in yesterday’s comments, the design would look a lot better without that horizontal chest stripe. … The Hockey News has ranked all 30 NHL logos. … Big congrats to Uni Watch intern emeritus Vince Grzegorek, who’s going to be contributing to the new Sporting News blog, First Cuts, on a daily basis. … No FNOB action in Pittsburgh after all, as the Pirates decided from the start not to add initials or first names for the LaRoche brothers. … Charles Carter of the Ft. Worth Cats is a Uni Watch kind of guy (with thanks to Jeff Meyers. … Speaking of stirrups, check out this shot of Bert Blyleven. … Jared Wheeler sent along this amazing photo of Casey Stengel. That undershirt! That button fly! … Also from Jared: This 1930s shot of Philadelphia A’s catcher Frankie Hayes wearing an AJ Reach (Philly-based) mask -– “funny, since the team was once part-owned by Reach’s competitor, Ben Shibe,” notes Jared. … The Edmonton Eskimos saluted fallen teammate Jason Tucker the other day by wearing his uni number on their undershirts. … Green dot update: This 49ers blog page indicates that “the ‘dot’ that signifies who has the [radio] receiver [on the defensive side of the ball] will be red. The green ‘dot’ belongs to the offense.” Not clear if the writer meant that all teams will be using a red dot for the defensive radio helmet or just the Niners, so I asked Giants equipment director Joe Skiba. He quoted me the applicable rule: “Rule #6–All [radio-equipped] players must wear a green decal on the rear midline of their helmets to designate and identify them as having a radio helmet.” Not sure if the Niners plan to deviate from this or if the SF writer was mistaken — will investigate. … The Twins marked the one-year anniversary of the I-35W bridge collapse with a sleeve patch on Friday. … Here’s something you don’t often see: Rogie Vachon as a Canadien. That shot is part of Steve Dewing’s new hockey collection. And of course his baseball pics are as addictive as ever. … Speaking of great old baseball photos, Larry Wiederecht has turned up a killer collection. ” They’re all worth viewing,” he says, “but be sure to check out Catfish in black shoes (and not in spring training). Are these “workout shoes” or did they ‘go black’ every once in a while? And dig the lacing!” … Bo Baize sent along some scans from The Official Rules of Baseball Illustrated. The title’s a bit of a misnomer — it’s more annotated than illustrated, with an explanation of how each provision of the rulebook came about and historical examples of each section being enforced. The section on uniforms is worth reading. It begins here and continues here, here, here, and here. … Completely fascinating interactive media page here regarding the design history of the Olympic torch — high recommended. … Speaking of the Olympics, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington currently has an exhibit devoted to the Berlin Olympics of 1936. Michael Jaworski pointed me toward this excellent online version of the installation. … New football uniforms for Duke. Additional pics here (with thanks to Mark Williams). … Matt Lesser notes that the U. of Cincinnati is still using Nike practice jerseys, despite having signed a deal with Adidas. … Ken Clark says the Majestic outlet store in Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania, is a good source of uni bloopers. “I’ve seen home logos on road jerseys, wrong team sleeve patches, etc.,” he says. “I’ve come across four or five of those problems in six or seven trips out there.” … Great socks on display in the Japanese National High School tourney (with thanks to, of course, Jeremy Brahm). … Interesting question from Matt King: “How come the Angels never have to change dugout jackets? Majestic brings out new jackets every three years or so, but the Angels haven’t changed their two-models-old design (red striped-collared premier jacket that teams slapped American flags on after 9/11 and short-sleeve red gamer jacket with logo on right chest) in many years. Can you shed any light on this?” Anyone know more? … Robert Saietta has come up with an awesome eBay find: a game-worn Philadelphia Freedoms uni (that’s World Team Tennis from the ’70s, gang). … Robby Cano went high-cuffed yesterday — a new look for him. … Excellent article plus embedded video here about the Nebraska equipment staff. … Braves first base coach Glenn Hubbard has been risking a fine by wearing an American flag decal on his coaching helmet, plus it looks like he may have something written on the helmet as well (screen grab courtesy of Matt Hiett). … Matthew Kurs-Lasky notes that Willie Harris’s NOB has a first initial, even though there’s no other Harris on the Nats roster. I assume there must have been another Harris earlier this season, yes? … You don’t normally see NFL players wearing game socks during training camp, but look and Larry Johnson (with thanks to Greg Riffenburgh). … Anyone who thinks I’m the only one with logo creep issues should scroll down to the “My Two Cents” item at the very bottom of this page (with thanks to Orlando Rodriquez). … This really needs to stop. … Good observation from Lou Sherwood, who writes: “You’re always commenting on how artists still portray ballplayers with stirrups, even though just a few brave souls still wear them, but what about umpires? How many times do you see umpires being shown using the old outside mattress chest protector? I mean, the NL umps started using the inside protector a hundred years ago! It’s been almost 30 years since any MLB ump used the mattress, yet look at Sunday’s Beetle Bailey comic. I bet you can find a thousand such examples.” … Still more about the Celtics’ championship banners, courtesy of a reader who prefers to remain anonymous: “I have a friend whose brother works in the Celtics’ front office. He says the NBA has asked the Celtics to have the new banner (and ring) read, ‘2008 NBA Champions’ instead of ‘2008 World Champions.’ Wyc kindly told the NBA something to the effect of ‘I already have 16 banners that say “World Champions.” Enforce your rule with a team that doesn’t have a legacy.'” … According to this article, at least one university professor is concerned that Speedo’s LZR swimsuit is designed to be worn so snugly that it may pose a risk of circulatory disorders (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Scott Mason sent along some pics from This book, two of which really stand out. First check out the astonishingly muddy conditions here (“football as it was meant to be played…in the mud left behind by a baseball field,” says Scott). And dig the gorgeous Yankee Stadium backdrop here. … Matt Powers spent the weekend in Cape Cod, where he caught some of the Pan-Mass Challenge. He spotted this rider wearing a jersey from the 2003 PMC, which was loosely patterned after a Red Sox jersey. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Duke was doing the monochrome thing way back in 1962.

 

177 comments to Kasper the Uni-Friendly Host

  • Kek | August 4, 2008 at 8:10 am |

    According to Okkonen/Dressed to the Nines, the Red Sox have never used a zippered jersey. But Josh Neisler has turned up this shot of Teddy Ballgame. Not sure of the year (or the location, or the opposing catcher), but that’s definitely a zippered jersey. Can anyone shed a bit of light on this?

    Paul, it appears you haven’t included the photo link in this entry of the ticker.

  • Paul Lukas | August 4, 2008 at 8:24 am |

    [quote comment=”283170″]

    According to Okkonen/Dressed to the Nines, the Red Sox have never used a zippered jersey. But Josh Neisler has turned up this shot of Teddy Ballgame. Not sure of the year (or the location, or the opposing catcher), but that’s definitely a zippered jersey. Can anyone shed a bit of light on this?

    Paul, it appears you haven’t included the photo link in this entry of the ticker.[/quote]

    Thanks. Now fixed. Photo also viewable here:
    http://farm4.static....

  • Billy | August 4, 2008 at 8:27 am |

    From the Baltimore Sun, Maryland might add achievement stickers to their helmets:

    Other of Friedgen’s ideas are designed with team members in mind. The coach says he’s “kicking around” an idea to reward players’ athletic and academic achievements with Terps stickers to display on their helmets.

    “I was thinking about a fighting Terp [decal]. I’d like to have an academic one and a football one. For example, if you don’t get to class, then I take the academic one off,” the coach said.

    http://www.baltimore...

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 8:32 am |

    big congrats to vince!

    g’luck with that

  • Kek | August 4, 2008 at 8:33 am |

    [quote comment=”283171″][quote comment=”283170″]

    According to Okkonen/Dressed to the Nines, the Red Sox have never used a zippered jersey. But Josh Neisler has turned up this shot of Teddy Ballgame. Not sure of the year (or the location, or the opposing catcher), but that’s definitely a zippered jersey. Can anyone shed a bit of light on this?

    Paul, it appears you haven’t included the photo link in this entry of the ticker.[/quote]

    Thanks. Now fixed. Photo also viewable here:
    http://farm4.static....
    Cool. Outstanding photo… and yes, that’s clearly a zipper

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 8:41 am |

    hey manny…how do you really feel about sawks management?

  • Noah | August 4, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    Lenny Harris is the hitting coach for Les Nats.

    http://www.dcpages.c...

  • Taylor | August 4, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    It’s the Duke Colts!

  • =bg= | August 4, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    http://msn.foxsports...

    Maybe a patch issue here- they already have ‘Beach’ tho..

  • Ben | August 4, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    Paul- would you rather have the refs wearing pants with the big ass stripe, or shorts like they did at last nights Packers Family Night Scrimmage?
    http://www.jsonline....

  • Sage Confucius | August 4, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”283177″]It’s the Duke Colts![/quote]

    I had the exact same thought. The look just like the Colts. I wonder if they got a deal on the unis?

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    Some observations about the Red Sox zippered jersey photo…

    Going by the presence of bunting, it is most likely an opening day, all-star game or a World Series. Since everyone is wearing long sleeves, I would go with either an opening day or WS. That would also place it at Fenway Park. Since Ted Williams only played in 1 WS (against the Cards in ’46), we can rule that out because that catcher does not look like a Cardinal (Cards had striped stirrups and a shoulder stripe at that time). Now we just need to figure out which AL team wore pocket flaps and pants piping during that era.

  • Milo | August 4, 2008 at 9:45 am |

    The Pedro Porthole sighting on Friday is a bit more nuanced than it may seem. Because of my UW conditioning, I took note that Pedro was fully buttoned during warm up and to start the game against Astros lead-off hitter Kaz Matsui. But then Matsui sent a (rare) dinger into the right field seats. By the time Pedro set his sights on number two batter Miguel Tejada, the porthole had presented itself.

  • Smed | August 4, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    As for Brenly and the orange – he may have worn that stuff in spring training. He was 27 when he first came up with the Giants, so it’s possible he was in spring training. Or in 1981 or 1982 wore them in the minors.

  • War Damn Eagle | August 4, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    “How come the Angels never have to change dugout jackets? Majestic brings out new jackets every three years or so, but the Angels haven’t changed their two-models-old design (red striped-collared premier jacket that teams slapped American flags on after 9/11 and short-sleeve red gamer jacket with logo on right chest) in many years. Can you shed any light on this?”

    I think either Arte Moreno or Mike Scoscia refuses to change the jackets and stuff b/c they don’t like the new designs. They still use the old 3930 batting practice caps, the old windbreakers and cage shirts, and the older dugout jackets. I think it’s cool that they do this, but I wonder how they can get more each year for new players (or to replace wornout gear) if it’s an old design.

    Recent acquisition Mark Teixeira wearing the old-model 3930 BP hat:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Scioscia wearing the older model wind-breaker:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Stephen | August 4, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    Ugh. I love my Yellow Jackets, and I am glad they are going back to the Old Gold, but those unis are just hideous! I had hoped for a more traditional look. About the only thing I do like about them is the yellow jacket logo on the collar.

    ~E~

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”283181″][quote comment=”283177″]It’s the Duke Colts![/quote]

    I had the exact same thought. The look just like the Colts. I wonder if they got a deal on the unis?[/quote]

    And it’s been the Iowa Steelers for, what, almost thirty years now?

    College coaches have been known to do such things when trying to ressurrect a program. “Dress team like winners.” That’s how those Iowa uniforms came to be, anyway.

  • Chad Johnson | August 4, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    The Rangers announcers had a discussion last night about the different materials the jerseys are mad out of, and which ones would be cooler and why….

  • War Damn Eagle | August 4, 2008 at 10:02 am |

    Matthew Kurs-Lasky notes that Willie Harris’s NOB has a first initial, even though there’s no other Harris on the Nats roster. I assume there must have been another Harris earlier this season, yes?

    Brendan Harris

  • Robert | August 4, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”283185″]“How come the Angels never have to change dugout jackets? Majestic brings out new jackets every three years or so, but the Angels haven’t changed their two-models-old design (red striped-collared premier jacket that teams slapped American flags on after 9/11 and short-sleeve red gamer jacket with logo on right chest) in many years. Can you shed any light on this?”

    I think either Arte Moreno or Mike Scoscia refuses to change the jackets and stuff b/c they don’t like the new designs. They still use the old 3930 batting practice caps, the old windbreakers and cage shirts, and the older dugout jackets. I think it’s cool that they do this, but I wonder how they can get more each year for new players (or to replace wornout gear) if it’s an old design.

    Recent acquisition Mark Teixeira wearing the old-model 3930 BP hat:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Scioscia wearing the older model wind-breaker:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Kudos to Moreno or Scioscia. It is nice to see that some folks won’t wear whatever is handed to them. Fight the power.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    Recent acquisition Mark Teixeira wearing the old-model 3930 BP hat:

    http://sports.yahoo….

    Sure wish that was the color of the Angels game hats. Still having trouble getting used to them in red.

    Those hats and navy sleeves. Yup, would like that.

  • chance | August 4, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”283190″][quote comment=”283185″]“How come the Angels never have to change dugout jackets? Majestic brings out new jackets every three years or so, but the Angels haven’t changed their two-models-old design (red striped-collared premier jacket that teams slapped American flags on after 9/11 and short-sleeve red gamer jacket with logo on right chest) in many years. Can you shed any light on this?”

    I think either Arte Moreno or Mike Scoscia refuses to change the jackets and stuff b/c they don’t like the new designs. They still use the old 3930 batting practice caps, the old windbreakers and cage shirts, and the older dugout jackets. I think it’s cool that they do this, but I wonder how they can get more each year for new players (or to replace wornout gear) if it’s an old design.

    Recent acquisition Mark Teixeira wearing the old-model 3930 BP hat:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Scioscia wearing the older model wind-breaker:

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Kudos to Moreno or Scioscia. It is nice to see that some folks won’t wear whatever is handed to them. Fight the power.[/quote]

    The Yankees did that for years – don’t know if it was Steinbrenner or Torre or a combination thereof, and now we’ll never know.

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”283176″]Lenny Harris is the hitting coach for Les Nats.

    http://www.dcpages.c...
    [quote comment=”283189″]Matthew Kurs-Lasky notes that Willie Harris’s NOB has a first initial, even though there’s no other Harris on the Nats roster. I assume there must have been another Harris earlier this season, yes?

    Brendan Harris[/quote]

    intersting…so…does he wear the FIOB because of coach lenny, or brendan harris, who last played for the nats in ’06

    i think the former, prolly

  • Scott | August 4, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    Watching end of Rays-Tigers yesterday and noticed that the Tigers pitcher who blew the game was wearing one of those titanium necklace things and it had an MLB logo attached to it. Have they always had the logo? It looked like a charm and was located behind his neck.

  • Karl J. Anderson | August 4, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    In regards to the Twins’ wearing the 35W patch on Friday night-I thought it was odd that the starting battery for the Twins (Joe Mauer and Nick Blackburn) were patchless. However, some players (Scott Baker) had the patch on his pull over and Ron Gardenhire had the patch on his pull over (ala the “34” patch that was worn in 2006 for Kirby Puckett). No pictures as of yet. Also, last week both Brendan Harris and Carlos Gomez were wearing high socks with the dreaded phiten logos.

  • Matt McD. | August 4, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    That picture of “The Kid” is from Opening Day @ Fenway Park, 1947 vs. the Washington Senators. Sox won 7-6.

  • Karl J. Anderson | August 4, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”283195″]In regards to the Twins’ wearing the 35W patch on Friday night-I thought it was odd that the starting battery for the Twins (Joe Mauer and Nick Blackburn) were patchless. However, some players (Scott Baker) had the patch on his pull over and Ron Gardenhire had the patch on his pull over (ala the “34” patch that was worn in 2006 for Kirby Puckett). No pictures as of yet. Also, last week both Brendan Harris and Carlos Gomez were wearing high socks with the dreaded phiten logos.[/quote]

    Here is a picture of Gomez with the socks…

    http://www.startribu...

  • Karl J. Anderson | August 4, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    Mauer, without the 35W patch:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”283196″]That picture of “The Kid” is from Opening Day @ Fenway Park, 1947 vs. the Washington Senators. Sox won 7-6.[/quote]
    “Dressed to the Nines” clearly shows the Red Sox wearing a zipper-front as a home option in ’47.

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Helmets Match Pants | August 4, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    I was a bit disappointed in the Hall Of Fame Game.

    I thought the Redskins might go with no logos on their helmets in honor of Jim Zorn since the Seahawks didn’t have any logos on their helmet in their first season.

  • Kek | August 4, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”283200″]I was a bit disappointed in the Hall Of Fame Game.

    I thought the Redskins might go with no logos on their helmets in honor of Jim Zorn since the Seahawks didn’t have any logos on their helmet in their first season.[/quote]
    really? That’s news to me. Do you mean just in training camp?

    I’m looking on that Seahawk history page linked on the right side of the page and I don’t see any evidence of a logo-less Seahawk helmet.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    Not being contrary. Honest. This says ’48, but could be the PRODUCT is from ’48 using a ’47 photo.

    Just trying to help get it figured out.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Giancarlo | August 4, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”283200″]
    I thought the Redskins might go with no logos on their helmets in honor of Jim Zorn since the Seahawks didn’t have any logos on their helmet in their first season.[/quote]

    This is the first I’ve heard that. Not the way I remember it.

  • Kerry P | August 4, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”283187″][quote comment=”283181″][quote comment=”283177″]It’s the Duke Colts![/quote]

    I had the exact same thought. The look just like the Colts. I wonder if they got a deal on the unis?[/quote]

    And it’s been the Iowa Steelers for, what, almost thirty years now?

    College coaches have been known to do such things when trying to ressurrect a program. “Dress team like winners.” That’s how those Iowa uniforms came to be, anyway.[/quote]
    I doubt it has anything to do with wanting to look like the Colts. The new coach at Duke is David Cutcliffe, who coached Eli Manning at Ole Miss. Notice any similarities with the Duke unis?

    Also, just look at the last link in the ticker today, look familiar? Yes there are similarities, but I’m not too sure he was thinking, “Hey, let’s look like the Colts and maybe we’ll play better!”

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    Seems like Indians changed hats about every year in early 50s. Here’s a ’53 card. probably showing ’52 hat, which is identical to the Reds’ at the time.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Always thought there was a period when Indians and Reds must have bought gear from same Ohio supplier or something cuz their hats leaped about from navy with red wishbone, navy with red wisbone and red visor, navy with red wishbone edged in white with red visor..etc., etc.

    Look through Reds and Indians baseball cards of that era sometime. Will drive you crazy trying to figure out what was what for what year. I know. I tried.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”283204″][quote comment=”283187″][quote comment=”283181″][quote comment=”283177″]It’s the Duke Colts![/quote]

    I had the exact same thought. The look just like the Colts. I wonder if they got a deal on the unis?[/quote]

    And it’s been the Iowa Steelers for, what, almost thirty years now?

    College coaches have been known to do such things when trying to ressurrect a program. “Dress team like winners.” That’s how those Iowa uniforms came to be, anyway.[/quote]
    I doubt it has anything to do with wanting to look like the Colts. The new coach at Duke is David Cutcliffe, who coached Eli Manning at Ole Miss. Notice any similarities with the Duke unis?

    Also, just look at the last link in the ticker today, look familiar? Yes there are similarities, but I’m not too sure he was thinking, “Hey, let’s look like the Colts and maybe we’ll play better!”[/quote]

    i agree. I was just pointing out I know that’s why Iowa went to the unis they still wear today. Hayden Fry said he wanted the kids to feel like winners, so he dressed them like winners.

    As to Duke, yeah, they’ve worn shoulder loops before. That’s why I posted that old S&S cover. Love that helmet (yuk). My high school team wore something like that. So did Ohio State and the original NY Titans.

  • LarenR | August 4, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”283200″]I was a bit disappointed in the Hall Of Fame Game.

    I thought the Redskins might go with no logos on their helmets in honor of Jim Zorn since the Seahawks didn’t have any logos on their helmet in their first season.[/quote]

    I watched some of that game. Why did some of the players have a green dot on the back of their helmet? And what was the smudge in the middle of it?

    sorry…just kidding. I couldn’t resist starting off the football-on-tv season…

  • joe | August 4, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”283202″]Not being contrary. Honest. This says ’48, but could be the PRODUCT is from ’48 using a ’47 photo.

    Just trying to help get it figured out.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    the really odd part is the photo itself as a 1946 date on it.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    btw, and I know I’m probably almost alone in this, but I frickin’ LOVE the Ole Miss’ football unis. The Navy jersey, not so much the red one.

    Was so nicely quirky that for many, many years, they wore a royal blue helmet with that ensemble (see Archie Manning era).

    http://www.victoryco...

    http://vault.sportsi...

    Later helmet, when figure added (like the huge numbers?)…
    http://img458.images...

  • Sarah | August 4, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    The reason Andy LaRoche might not have FNOB on his jersey is because his brother Adam is currently on the DL, and if I am not mistaken might be on it for the rest of the season, therefore having no need for FNOB for the remainder of the season. (It is Steelers season in Pittsburgh, the Pirates are lucky to have the final score covered…)

  • Andy--01 | August 4, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    Looks like Glen Hubbard’s helmet says “HUSTLE” to me. Sounds like something that a coach would write on his helmet.

  • Paul Lukas | August 4, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”283199″][quote comment=”283196″]That picture of “The Kid” is from Opening Day @ Fenway Park, 1947 vs. the Washington Senators. Sox won 7-6.[/quote]
    “Dressed to the Nines” clearly shows the Red Sox wearing a zipper-front as a home option in ’47.

    http://exhibits.base...

    ’48, too. Not sure how I missed this. Thought I checked closely. Obviously, I did not.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    Let’s readdress something here…why does anything think the Seahawks had no logos on helmets their first season?

    Maybe, yes, as someone noted, in training camp but…

    (Anyone remember that Ahmad Rashad was an original Seahawk? Was in camp with them–have no idea what number he wore, had been 27 with Bills–but was traded to Vikings because Seahawk offensive genius Jerry Rhome said Rashad, “Wasn’t the kind of receiver who’d fit in with our offense.”)

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”283209″]btw, and I know I’m probably almost alone in this, but I frickin’ LOVE the Ole Miss’ football unis. The Navy jersey, not so much the red one.

    Was so nicely quirky that for many, many years, they wore a royal blue helmet with that ensemble (see Archie Manning era).

    http://www.victoryco...

    http://vault.sportsi...

    Later helmet, when figure added (like the huge numbers?)…
    http://img458.images...

    you’re not alone in that, ricko…i love them too…more so the blue jersey than the red…too much crapola on the red one (bowl game?)…perhaps eli’s current team could take a pointer from that

    …don’t get me wrong, i think the g-men’s gray pants are wonderfully quirky, but as mr. lukas pointed out so well in an earlier espn column, the g-men could do so much more with just a few tweaks…

    anyone who didn’t read that article, i highly recomend it…even if you only look at the pics

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    I know that we all here enjoy a good uni-related digression between a play-by-play guy and an analyst, but, seriously, if you watch the Cubs enough, you come to realize that Kasper and Brenly talk about extraneous shit all the time and ad nauseum.

    1-1 game in the 8th and they’re off on a tangent. And when Brenly can use 12 words, he uses 24 as if he gets a bulk discount. It’s just annoying as all hell.

    /rant

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”283214″][quote comment=”283209″]btw, and I know I’m probably almost alone in this, but I frickin’ LOVE the Ole Miss’ football unis. The Navy jersey, not so much the red one.

    Was so nicely quirky that for many, many years, they wore a royal blue helmet with that ensemble (see Archie Manning era).

    http://www.victoryco...

    http://vault.sportsi...

    Later helmet, when figure added (like the huge numbers?)…
    http://img458.images...

    you’re not alone in that, ricko…i love them too…more so the blue jersey than the red…too much crapola on the red one (bowl game?)…perhaps eli’s current team could take a pointer from that

    …don’t get me wrong, i think the g-men’s gray pants are wonderfully quirky, but as mr. lukas pointed out so well in an earlier espn column, the g-men could do so much more with just a few tweaks…

    anyone who didn’t read that article, i highly recomend it…even if you only look at the pics[/quote]

    Didn’t early 50’s Giants wear red jerseys with those blue helmets? I alwas figured the red road trim harked back to that, even after they went to royal at home.

    Current Giants gray pants are two different time periods, aren’t they? Three narrow stripes with white jerseys are late 50s, and royal-around-red tricolor band with royal jerseys is early to mid-60s style pants.

    I guess I like the red-trimmed white just cuz is so true to that era…and is a uniform few of us ever got to see in color on TV.

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”283213″]Let’s readdress something here…why does anything think the Seahawks had no logos on helmets their first season?

    Maybe, yes, as someone noted, in training camp but…

    [/quote]

    You know why? Topps cards of that era didn’t show helmet logos.

    Zorn’s rookie card (I think that’s his rookie card, that’s the first year I ever collected sports cards) doesn’t show him without a helmet, but this Steve Largent from the same era (not the same year) shows a blank helmet.

    So it’s possible that if you weren’t around in 1976 and have only seen football cards from that year, you’d think the Seahawks didn’t have a helmet logo then. But they did.

  • Taylor | August 4, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”283209″]btw, and I know I’m probably almost alone in this, but I frickin’ LOVE the Ole Miss’ football unis. The Navy jersey, not so much the red one.

    Was so nicely quirky that for many, many years, they wore a royal blue helmet with that ensemble (see Archie Manning era).

    http://www.victoryco...

    http://vault.sportsi...

    Later helmet, when figure added (like the huge numbers?)…
    http://img458.images...

    Me too. I think the Ole Miss football jerseys are the best in college football. They are simple yet modern. Just classy all the way around. Definately underrated.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    Ohmylord, something just occured to me.

    If Favre ends up with Vikings…
    Bret Favre in black shoes.

    That might be a first for entire football career.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”283217″][quote comment=”283213″]Let’s readdress something here…why does anything think the Seahawks had no logos on helmets their first season?

    Maybe, yes, as someone noted, in training camp but…

    [/quote]

    You know why? Topps cards of that era didn’t show helmet logos.

    Zorn’s rookie card (I think that’s his rookie card, that’s the first year I ever collected sports cards) doesn’t show him without a helmet, but this Steve Largent from the same era (not the same year) shows a blank helmet.

    So it’s possible that if you weren’t around in 1976 and have only seen football cards from that year, you’d think the Seahawks didn’t have a helmet logo then. But they did.[/quote]

    Check other cards from that set. Now that the subject comes up, seems to me there was a set where all helmet logos (or at least some of the teams) were airbrushed out.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    sorry, KT, we said same thing.

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    Ah, the first year Bucs with their light orange numbers edge in red. That was flipflopped for second season.

    http://bucpower.com/...

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”283222″]Ah, the first year Bucs with their light orange numbers edge in red. That was flipflopped for second season.

    http://bucpower.com/...

    a better look…
    http://vault.sportsi...

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”283223″][quote comment=”283222″]Ah, the first year Bucs with their light orange numbers edge in red. That was flipflopped for second season.

    http://bucpower.com/...

    a better look…
    http://vault.sportsi...
    Here’s a shot of the red numbers edged in orange…

    http://www.bucpower....

  • Chad | August 4, 2008 at 11:50 am |
  • Giancarlo | August 4, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”283220″]
    Check other cards from that set. Now that the subject comes up, seems to me there was a set where all helmet logos (or at least some of the teams) were airbrushed out.[/quote]

    ALL sets from the ’70s did this for all teams. It really bugged me as a junior uni-watcher at the time.

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]
    That color scheme and hat immediately brought to mind the new Days Inn logo:
    http://www.wyndhamwo...

  • Dana | August 4, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    Paul,
    Will you be doing a college football preview this season in your ESPN column, where you detail all of the uni changes that each team makes?

  • Ed | August 4, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=\”283216\”][quote comment=\”283214\”][quote comment=\”283209\”]btw, and I know I\’m probably almost alone in this, but I frickin\’ LOVE the Ole Miss\’ football unis. The Navy jersey, not so much the red one.

    Was so nicely quirky that for many, many years, they wore a royal blue helmet with that ensemble (see Archie Manning era).

    http://www.victoryco...

    http://vault.sportsi...

    Later helmet, when figure added (like the huge numbers?)…
    http://img458.images...

    you\’re not alone in that, ricko…i love them too…more so the blue jersey than the red…too much crapola on the red one (bowl game?)…perhaps eli\’s current team could take a pointer from that

    …don\’t get me wrong, i think the g-men\’s gray pants are wonderfully quirky, but as mr. lukas pointed out so well in an earlier espn column, the g-men could do so much more with just a few tweaks…

    anyone who didn\’t read that article, i highly recomend it…even if you only look at the pics[/quote]

    Didn\’t early 50\’s Giants wear red jerseys with those blue helmets? I alwas figured the red road trim harked back to that, even after they went to royal at home.

    Current Giants gray pants are two different time periods, aren\’t they? Three narrow stripes with white jerseys are late 50s, and royal-around-red tricolor band with royal jerseys is early to mid-60s style pants.

    I guess I like the red-trimmed white just cuz is so true to that era…and is a uniform few of us ever got to see in color on TV.[/quote]

    Good article from 2/1. As a Giants fan, I like the red numbers and sleeve stripes because they stand out better. However, I think the \”NY,\” the Reebok Logo, and the NOB should be in blue, keeping traditional elements as-is and providing a nice contrast and some actual azure in Big Blue\’s road jersey. Also, the home pants should always be worn since that stripe matches the helmet color and stripe design.

    That\’s my $0.02. Maybe some photoshop mock-ups will follow… Truthfully, I don\’t think their road uni will change for a while. After all, they won a Lombardi wearing it.

    18-1!

  • Kek | August 4, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”283210″]The reason Andy LaRoche might not have FNOB on his jersey is because his brother Adam is currently on the DL, and if I am not mistaken might be on it for the rest of the season, therefore having no need for FNOB for the remainder of the season. (It is Steelers season in Pittsburgh, the Pirates are lucky to have the final score covered…)[/quote]
    I think this was covered here before, but I don’t think that’s the case if you look at this post: http://community.pos...

  • Greg V. | August 4, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.

  • Tom | August 4, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    Not uni related, but I was driving through Tampa yesterday, and apparently The NYY “Legends Field” is now “George Steinbrenner Field”?

    Beleive it or not, they spelled out the entire name on the green highway sign too, the sign must have been 30 feet long.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    Unfortunately, nothing looks good on that crappy sketch. That figure has the body of 50 year old biology teacher.

    But, either way, that’s a bad looking uni.

    Raise your hand now: Who’s sick of this damn “alternates” busines, especially when includes some spazzy special hat? I mean, maybe a home hat and a road hat, and one dark colored jersey for a change of pace. But that’s enough.

    For example, Twins, please oh please burn those sleveless things? Okay?

    And Texans (NFL not immune to this epidemic of haphazardness)…all red? Um…no. Please, no. Win some frickin’ games first.

  • Don | August 4, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”283226″][quote comment=”283220″]
    Check other cards from that set. Now that the subject comes up, seems to me there was a set where all helmet logos (or at least some of the teams) were airbrushed out.[/quote]

    ALL sets from the ’70s did this for all teams. It really bugged me as a junior uni-watcher at the time.[/quote]

    IIRC, this was because Topps only had rights to the players and team names, but not to the logos. The Fleer sets from those years had the rights to the logos, but did not hold the Player’s Association rights. That’s why the Topps sets did not show helmet logos (until the Rams players in 79 and all teams sometime in the early 80s) and the Fleer sets showed team “highlights”. I don’t know why the Rams all had helmet logos in the 79 set.

  • Jim | August 4, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”283226″][quote comment=”283220″]
    Check other cards from that set. Now that the subject comes up, seems to me there was a set where all helmet logos (or at least some of the teams) were airbrushed out.[/quote]

    ALL sets from the ’70s did this for all teams. It really bugged me as a junior uni-watcher at the time.[/quote]

    Yeah, it was strange. For a time towards the end of that era, they did show like half the Rams’ logo (as you see here).

    But probably the worst one was when they turned a member of the chain gang into a New England Patriot with some not-so-subtle image retouching (I’d say Photoshopping, but that didn’t exist then).

  • Chad | August 4, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    doc ellis’ no hitter gets #2 on this list http://www.cracked.c...

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...
    Well, Greg was talking about baseball uniforms specifically. I can’t think of any Major League teams that do it, but there are probably a few Minor League teams.

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”283232″]Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    First Major League one, maybe.

    Not the first one in sports, I don’t think. If the New England Whalers, Revolution or Tea Men ever had “New England” on their shirts.

    The CBA had a team in Massachusetts called the “Bay State Bombardiers,” so they may have had “Bay State” in there somewhere. Which is a state, but not the official name of a state. Or the Golden State Warriors.

  • Giancarlo | August 4, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”283228″]
    That color scheme and hat immediately brought to mind the new Days Inn logo:
    http://www.wyndhamwo...
    Yes. That (in my opinion awful) Rays’ design always makes me think of a corporate motel chain. Similarly, the D-Backs’ wordmark always brings to mind a family-oriented theme restaurant and sometimes the Indians’ wordmark evokes an old-timey gas station.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”283239″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...
    Well, Greg was talking about baseball uniforms specifically. I can’t think of any Major League teams that do it, but there are probably a few Minor League teams.[/quote]

    I assume u mean other than when Tampa Bay did it in the past

    http://exhibits.base...

  • Marty Met | August 4, 2008 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”283240″][quote comment=”283232″]Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    First Major League one, maybe.

    Not the first one in sports, I don’t think. If the New England Whalers, Revolution or Tea Men ever had “New England” on their shirts.

    The CBA had a team in Massachusetts called the “Bay State Bombardiers,” so they may have had “Bay State” in there somewhere. Which is a state, but not the official name of a state. Or the Golden State Warriors.[/quote]

    Southern California Sun of the WFL in 1974 and 1975.

    Memphis Tams of the ABA. Tams stood for Tennesse, Arkansas, Mississippi.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 12:47 pm |

    A quick addendum to Ole Miss football unis discussion…

    Those royal helmets were so light, that watching on B&W TV back then I was thinking maybe they were red.

    Here you’ll see what I mean…

    http://www.mmbolding...

    —Ricko

  • Billy | August 4, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    They had “Tampa Bay” on their roads from ’98 to last year.

  • Jim | August 4, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”283239″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...
    Well, Greg was talking about baseball uniforms specifically. I can’t think of any Major League teams that do it, but there are probably a few Minor League teams.[/quote]

    Oops, he did say ‘baseball uniform’. Guess I should read a little slower… my bad.

  • hott rodd | August 4, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    Do team names count?
    The ‘Rockies’ ?

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    One of the players pictured on this page made a key play in one of the most famous(“infamous”) pro football games ever.

    Who…and what game?

    http://www.mmbolding...

  • Mark W | August 4, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    Willie Harris wears the “W. Harris” on his jersey because the Nats battng coach is Lenny Harris.

    Brendan Harris last played for the Nats in 2006; he was sent to Cincy in a mid season deal (the Nats got Austin Kearns, Felipe Lopez and Ryan Wagner; the Red got Bill Bray, Gary Majewski, Harris, Royce Clayton and Daryl Rasner).

    Willie Harris was playng for Boston in 2006, and played in Atlanta in 2007. He signed with the Nats this past winter.

    Lenny Harris is the Nats hitting coach who was not a player in 2006. He retired after the 2005 season and became the Nats hitting coach in 2007 after Mitchell Page left the job because of personal reasons.

  • Jake | August 4, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    What about the twins? Have their uniforms ever read twin cities before?

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”283250″]What about the twins? Have their uniforms ever read twin cities before?[/quote]

    Nope.

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”283250″]What about the twins? Have their uniforms ever read twin cities before?[/quote]

    No, but their classic hats had TC on them, didn’t they?

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 12:59 pm |

    This doesn’t count, I suppose, cuz is a WWII Miliary Team uni.

    http://ebbets.com/Au...

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”283252″][quote comment=”283250″]What about the twins? Have their uniforms ever read twin cities before?[/quote]

    No, but their classic hats had TC on them, didn’t they?[/quote]

    Absolutely. Was thinking of jerseys.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    Hard to tell from these b&w photos, but there was something unusual (well, different) about most of the Syracuse players’ socks in this game.

    Anyone spot what it is?

    —Ricko

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”283255″]Hard to tell from these b&w photos, but there was something unusual (well, different) about most of the Syracuse players’ socks in this game.

    Anyone spot what it is?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    oops, forgot link…

    http://www.mmbolding...

  • who cares | August 4, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...

    Lightning play in the St. Pete Times Forum which is located in downtown Tampa. A bit confusing for visitors I bet. If the Tampa Bay area were like the Twin Cities in Minnesota, namely the only pro-city in the state, they would just call themselves the Florida Rays. With the Marlins ditching the Florida name before 2011 I wish the Rays would adopt it be they probably won’t. Speaking of the Marlins I heard a rumor from some guy I know’s brother’s uncle-in-law’s auto mechanic’s neighbor that when the Marlins change their name to the Miami Marlins and move into the city their new uniforms will officially bring orange into the mix.

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”283248″]One of the players pictured on this page made a key play in one of the most famous(“infamous”) pro football games ever.

    Who…and what game?

    http://www.mmbolding...

    heidi game?

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    preston ridelhuber

  • Jim | August 4, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”283257″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...

    Lightning play in the St. Pete Times Forum which is located in downtown Tampa. A bit confusing for visitors I bet. If the Tampa Bay area were like the Twin Cities in Minnesota, namely the only pro-city in the state, they would just call themselves the Florida Rays. With the Marlins ditching the Florida name before 2011 I wish the Rays would adopt it be they probably won’t. Speaking of the Marlins I heard a rumor from some guy I know’s brother’s uncle-in-law’s auto mechanic’s neighbor that when the Marlins change their name to the Miami Marlins and move into the city their new uniforms will officially bring orange into the mix.[/quote]

    Maybee I am missing something, but how is TBL playing in St. Pete Times Forum confusing? Is it because they play in an arena that’s named after a newspaper that’s (assuming) named for St. Petersburg?

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”283259″]preston ridelhuber[/quote]

    Yup, THE Preston Ridelhuber. Picked up fumble, scored winning TD.

    About that time I was watching “Heidi” and sort screaming something like “wft” at my TV.

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”283261″]About that time I was watching “Heidi” and sort screaming something like “wft” at my TV.[/quote]

    with your grandkids, no doubt ;)

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”283262″][quote comment=”283261″]About that time I was watching “Heidi” and sort screaming something like “wft” at my TV.[/quote]

    with your grandkids, no doubt ;)[/quote]

    Yeah, I kept them around in case new-fangled TV thing needed adjusting.
    “Consarn picture went all sideway again!!!”
    (from other room) “Just turn the ‘hoizontal hold’ knob, Grandpa!”
    “Not me. Cussed thing might BLOW UP!!!”

  • Kek | August 4, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”283256″][quote comment=”283255″]Hard to tell from these b&w photos, but there was something unusual (well, different) about most of the Syracuse players’ socks in this game.

    Anyone spot what it is?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    oops, forgot link…

    http://www.mmbolding...
    Are they wearing soccer shinguards?

  • who cares | August 4, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”283260″][quote comment=”283257″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...

    Lightning play in the St. Pete Times Forum which is located in downtown Tampa. A bit confusing for visitors I bet. If the Tampa Bay area were like the Twin Cities in Minnesota, namely the only pro-city in the state, they would just call themselves the Florida Rays. With the Marlins ditching the Florida name before 2011 I wish the Rays would adopt it be they probably won’t. Speaking of the Marlins I heard a rumor from some guy I know’s brother’s uncle-in-law’s auto mechanic’s neighbor that when the Marlins change their name to the Miami Marlins and move into the city their new uniforms will officially bring orange into the mix.[/quote]

    Maybee I am missing something, but how is TBL playing in St. Pete Times Forum confusing? Is it because they play in an arena that’s named after a newspaper that’s (assuming) named for St. Petersburg?[/quote]

    So you wouldn’t find it a bit peculiar if they renamed Madison Square Garden the Newark Star-Ledger Garden?

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”283265″][quote comment=”283260″][quote comment=”283257″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...

    Lightning play in the St. Pete Times Forum which is located in downtown Tampa. A bit confusing for visitors I bet. If the Tampa Bay area were like the Twin Cities in Minnesota, namely the only pro-city in the state, they would just call themselves the Florida Rays. With the Marlins ditching the Florida name before 2011 I wish the Rays would adopt it be they probably won’t. Speaking of the Marlins I heard a rumor from some guy I know’s brother’s uncle-in-law’s auto mechanic’s neighbor that when the Marlins change their name to the Miami Marlins and move into the city their new uniforms will officially bring orange into the mix.[/quote]

    Maybee I am missing something, but how is TBL playing in St. Pete Times Forum confusing? Is it because they play in an arena that’s named after a newspaper that’s (assuming) named for St. Petersburg?[/quote]

    So you wouldn’t find it a bit peculiar if they renamed Madison Square Garden the Newark Star-Ledger Garden?[/quote]
    As odd as the Arizona Cardinals played in something called University of Phoenix Stadium? (even though the University of Phoenix has no football team)

  • Greg V. | August 4, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”283246″][quote comment=”283239″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...
    Well, Greg was talking about baseball uniforms specifically. I can’t think of any Major League teams that do it, but there are probably a few Minor League teams.[/quote]

    Oops, he did say ‘baseball uniform’. Guess I should read a little slower… my bad.[/quote]

    Yeah, it just seems like it has been baseball tradition, more than any other sport, to have the team name or logo on the home whites and the city (or state in some cases) on the road grays. The increasing use of colored alts is changing that and I was just curious if any other baseball teams had a region name on the front of the jerseys. Tampa Bay seems to be the only one so far.

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”283267″][quote comment=”283246″][quote comment=”283239″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...
    Well, Greg was talking about baseball uniforms specifically. I can’t think of any Major League teams that do it, but there are probably a few Minor League teams.[/quote]

    Oops, he did say ‘baseball uniform’. Guess I should read a little slower… my bad.[/quote]

    Yeah, it just seems like it has been baseball tradition, more than any other sport, to have the team name or logo on the home whites and the city (or state in some cases) on the road grays. The increasing use of colored alts is changing that and I was just curious if any other baseball teams had a region name on the front of the jerseys. Tampa Bay seems to be the only one so far.[/quote]
    Here is a pic of the Inland Empire 66ers (California League) road jersey…
    http://cache.daylife...

    Still searching for pics of road unis for the High Desert Mavericks.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”283264″][quote comment=”283256″][quote comment=”283255″]Hard to tell from these b&w photos, but there was something unusual (well, different) about most of the Syracuse players’ socks in this game.

    Anyone spot what it is?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    oops, forgot link…

    http://www.mmbolding...
    Are they wearing soccer shinguards?[/quote]

    Wearing white stirrups with orange and navy stripes but, for this game only, most players—including Ernie Davis—wore orange crew-length sweatsocks.

    Remember watching the game. Looked really odd. Have one of my hand-drawn file cards of it.

    Interesting game also cuz both teams wore white at home so got rare look at Syracuse navy jerseys. Difficult now to explain to people that Miami once wore green and light gold, even though colors listed as green and orange.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”283269″][quote comment=”283264″][quote comment=”283256″][quote comment=”283255″]Hard to tell from these b&w photos, but there was something unusual (well, different) about most of the Syracuse players’ socks in this game.

    Anyone spot what it is?

    —Ricko[/quote]

    oops, forgot link…

    http://www.mmbolding...
    Are they wearing soccer shinguards?[/quote]

    Wearing white stirrups with orange and navy stripes but, for this game only, most players—including Ernie Davis—wore orange crew-length sweatsocks.

    Remember watching the game. Looked really odd. Have one of my hand-drawn file cards of it.

    Interesting game also cuz both teams wore white at home so got rare look at Syracuse navy jerseys. Difficult now to explain to people that Miami once wore green and light gold, even though colors listed as green and orange.[/quote]

    Interstingly enough, was kelly green, too. Not the forest green they’ve wore since early 70s.

  • werthj | August 4, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”283267″][quote comment=”283246″][quote comment=”283239″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...
    Well, Greg was talking about baseball uniforms specifically. I can’t think of any Major League teams that do it, but there are probably a few Minor League teams.[/quote]

    Oops, he did say ‘baseball uniform’. Guess I should read a little slower… my bad.[/quote]

    Yeah, it just seems like it has been baseball tradition, more than any other sport, to have the team name or logo on the home whites and the city (or state in some cases) on the road grays. The increasing use of colored alts is changing that and I was just curious if any other baseball teams had a region name on the front of the jerseys. Tampa Bay seems to be the only one so far.[/quote]
    Brooklyn? Not a city or state.

  • Jim | August 4, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”283265″][quote comment=”283260″][quote comment=”283257″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...

    Lightning play in the St. Pete Times Forum which is located in downtown Tampa. A bit confusing for visitors I bet. If the Tampa Bay area were like the Twin Cities in Minnesota, namely the only pro-city in the state, they would just call themselves the Florida Rays. With the Marlins ditching the Florida name before 2011 I wish the Rays would adopt it be they probably won’t. Speaking of the Marlins I heard a rumor from some guy I know’s brother’s uncle-in-law’s auto mechanic’s neighbor that when the Marlins change their name to the Miami Marlins and move into the city their new uniforms will officially bring orange into the mix.[/quote]

    Maybee I am missing something, but how is TBL playing in St. Pete Times Forum confusing? Is it because they play in an arena that’s named after a newspaper that’s (assuming) named for St. Petersburg?[/quote]

    So you wouldn’t find it a bit peculiar if they renamed Madison Square Garden the Newark Star-Ledger Garden?[/quote]

    Not really, their still the TAMPA BAY Lightning, just with naming rights being sold to highest bidders lately the arena could be named anything. I’ve just come learn that when you want to find out where a team is don’t go by the name of the arena.

    To flip it around, how about the Detroit Pistons playing in ‘The Palace of Aubrurn Hills’.

  • Flip | August 4, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    New Ga. Tech pretty much suck, but I like the shoes. Black shoes w/ white laces is a good look. Just like that Catfish Oakland A’s photo. The player in the background also is wearing black shoes with white laces. Catfish’s lace job, though, is a work of art. (Is that Comiskey Park?)

  • Keith B | August 4, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    Speaking of stirrups, check out this shot of Bert Blyleven.

    Bert always knew how to wear the hose.

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    of course, you have the two ‘new york’ football teams playing in another state altogether…

  • Flip | August 4, 2008 at 2:15 pm |

    I meant to mention Blyleven, too. You’re right he knew how to dress. It seemed to hose the Royals at inopportune times whether it was with the Indians or Twins. Guy belongs in the HOF.

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”283273″]New Ga. Tech pretty much suck, but I like the shoes. Black shoes w/ white laces is a good look. Just like that Catfish Oakland A’s photo. The player in the background also is wearing black shoes with white laces. Catfish’s lace job, though, is a work of art. (Is that Comiskey Park?)[/quote]

    A couple more shots of the A’s wearing black cleats with white laces from the late 60s…

    http://www.thesportg...

    http://www.hollywood...

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    Damn

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”283273″]New Ga. Tech pretty much suck, but I like the shoes. Black shoes w/ white laces is a good look. Just like that Catfish Oakland A’s photo. The player in the background also is wearing black shoes with white laces. Catfish’s lace job, though, is a work of art. (Is that Comiskey Park?)[/quote]

    When A’s went to white Riddell shoes in ’67, they also announced they had a sent of black shoes, too (for rainy/muddy days).

    Or, possibly they had a green set.

    See page 62 of this issue…
    http://vault.sportsi...

  • Teebz | August 4, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”283240″]
    The CBA had a team in Massachusetts called the “Bay State Bombardiers,” so they may have had “Bay State” in there somewhere. Which is a state, but not the official name of a state. Or the Golden State Warriors.[/quote]

    The New England Whalers of the WHA certainly did wear their geographical location on the front of their jerseys. However, for the first 2.5 years, the Whalers played out of the Boston Arena, Boston Garden, and The Big E Coliseum in West Springfield. With the Whalers fighting an uphill battle against the popular Boston Bruins, management decided to move the team to Hartford, Connecticut in the 1974-74 offseason.

    The New England Whalers sort of do represent a portion of the New England in their history.

  • Teebz | August 4, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”283281″][quote comment=”283240″]
    The CBA had a team in Massachusetts called the “Bay State Bombardiers,” so they may have had “Bay State” in there somewhere. Which is a state, but not the official name of a state. Or the Golden State Warriors.[/quote]

    The New England Whalers of the WHA certainly did wear their geographical location on the front of their jerseys. However, for the first 2.5 years, the Whalers played out of the Boston Arena, Boston Garden, and The Big E Coliseum in West Springfield. With the Whalers fighting an uphill battle against the popular Boston Bruins, management decided to move the team to Hartford, Connecticut in the 1974-75 offseason.

    The New England Whalers sort of do represent a portion of the New England in their history.[/quote]

    Fixed the date.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”283280″][quote comment=”283273″]New Ga. Tech pretty much suck, but I like the shoes. Black shoes w/ white laces is a good look. Just like that Catfish Oakland A’s photo. The player in the background also is wearing black shoes with white laces. Catfish’s lace job, though, is a work of art. (Is that Comiskey Park?)[/quote]

    When A’s went to white Riddell shoes in ’67, they also announced they had a sent of black shoes, too (for rainy/muddy days).

    Or, possibly they had a green set.

    See page 62 of this issue…
    http://vault.sportsi...

    You’re gonna love Finley’s line about the type of kangaroos involved.

    —Ricko

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    speaking of tampa & st. pete…

    anyone know the status of this new ray ballpark?

  • Neil | August 4, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”283272″][quote comment=”283265″][quote comment=”283260″][quote comment=”283257″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...

    Lightning play in the St. Pete Times Forum which is located in downtown Tampa. A bit confusing for visitors I bet. If the Tampa Bay area were like the Twin Cities in Minnesota, namely the only pro-city in the state, they would just call themselves the Florida Rays. With the Marlins ditching the Florida name before 2011 I wish the Rays would adopt it be they probably won’t. Speaking of the Marlins I heard a rumor from some guy I know’s brother’s uncle-in-law’s auto mechanic’s neighbor that when the Marlins change their name to the Miami Marlins and move into the city their new uniforms will officially bring orange into the mix.[/quote]

    Maybee I am missing something, but how is TBL playing in St. Pete Times Forum confusing? Is it because they play in an arena that’s named after a newspaper that’s (assuming) named for St. Petersburg?[/quote]

    So you wouldn’t find it a bit peculiar if they renamed Madison Square Garden the Newark Star-Ledger Garden?[/quote]

    Not really, their still the TAMPA BAY Lightning, just with naming rights being sold to highest bidders lately the arena could be named anything. I’ve just come learn that when you want to find out where a team is don’t go by the name of the arena.

    To flip it around, how about the Detroit Pistons playing in ‘The Palace of Aubrurn Hills’.[/quote]

    Tampa is the name of a city. St. Petersburg is the name of a city. Tampa Bay is the name of a region that encompasses both.

  • Kevin M. | August 4, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”283284″]speaking of tampa & st. pete…

    anyone know the status of this new ray ballpark?[/quote]

    I think the motion to get it put before the city council was shot down. They will try again later though. People (tax payers) are concerned that they will have to pay for the stadium but they are going to use private money and money from the rezoning of the area that the Trop is at the current location.

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”283283″][quote comment=”283280″][quote comment=”283273″]New Ga. Tech pretty much suck, but I like the shoes. Black shoes w/ white laces is a good look. Just like that Catfish Oakland A’s photo. The player in the background also is wearing black shoes with white laces. Catfish’s lace job, though, is a work of art. (Is that Comiskey Park?)[/quote]

    When A’s went to white Riddell shoes in ’67, they also announced they had a sent of black shoes, too (for rainy/muddy days).

    Or, possibly they had a green set.

    See page 62 of this issue…
    http://vault.sportsi...

    You’re gonna love Finley’s line about the type of kangaroos involved.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    the rare albino ones?

  • Matt H. | August 4, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    Athletes in strange uniforms. Third paragraph in with link to additional article on this issue . . .

    http://bats.blogs.ny...

  • Kevin M. | August 4, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”283286″][quote comment=”283284″]speaking of tampa & st. pete…

    anyone know the status of this new ray ballpark?[/quote]

    I think the motion to get it put before the city council was shot down. They will try again later though. People (tax payers) are concerned that they will have to pay for the stadium but they are going to use private money and money from the rezoning of the area that the Trop is at the current location.[/quote]

    It has been delayed

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”283287″][quote comment=”283283″][quote comment=”283280″][quote comment=”283273″]New Ga. Tech pretty much suck, but I like the shoes. Black shoes w/ white laces is a good look. Just like that Catfish Oakland A’s photo. The player in the background also is wearing black shoes with white laces. Catfish’s lace job, though, is a work of art. (Is that Comiskey Park?)[/quote]

    When A’s went to white Riddell shoes in ’67, they also announced they had a sent of black shoes, too (for rainy/muddy days).

    Or, possibly they had a green set.

    See page 62 of this issue…
    http://vault.sportsi...

    You’re gonna love Finley’s line about the type of kangaroos involved.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    the rare albino ones?[/quote]

    Yes. And we can suppose, I suppose, there were even fewer of them after the A’s footwear needs were met.

    I had chair in college from the rare black Naugha.

  • Kevin M. | August 4, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”283289″][quote comment=”283286″][quote comment=”283284″]speaking of tampa & st. pete…

    anyone know the status of this new ray ballpark?[/quote]

    I think the motion to get it put before the city council was shot down. They will try again later though. People (tax payers) are concerned that they will have to pay for the stadium but they are going to use private money and money from the rezoning of the area that the Trop is at the current location.[/quote]

    It has been delayed[/quote]

    Link did not work. Here it is http://www.tampabay....

  • Flip | August 4, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”283287″][quote comment=”283283″][quote comment=”283280″][quote comment=”283273″]New Ga. Tech pretty much suck, but I like the shoes. Black shoes w/ white laces is a good look. Just like that Catfish Oakland A’s photo. The player in the background also is wearing black shoes with white laces. Catfish’s lace job, though, is a work of art. (Is that Comiskey Park?)[/quote]

    When A’s went to white Riddell shoes in ’67, they also announced they had a sent of black shoes, too (for rainy/muddy days).

    Or, possibly they had a green set.

    See page 62 of this issue…
    http://vault.sportsi...

    You’re gonna love Finley’s line about the type of kangaroos involved.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    the rare albino ones?[/quote]

    I remember the season they broke them out. PETA hadn’t really established itself. But the A’s (then in KC) opened against the Indians. Joe Adcock was the Tribe’s manager and he went ballistic over the white shoes He thought it gave the A’s an unfair advantage — hitters couldn’t pick up the ball cuz of the white shoes. Bad argument. Bad manager. He was gone and replaced with a former — and future — A’s manager, Al Dark. Still love those green laces.

  • Anthony Verna | August 4, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”283271″][quote comment=”283267″][quote comment=”283246″][quote comment=”283239″][quote comment=”283236″][quote comment=”283232″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    When established in 1883, Brooklyn was independent of New York City.
    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    It is just as boring as their current uniforms, but I like it. Would this be the first baseball uniform to feature a geographical location that is neither a city nor a state? I can’t think of any, but it’s monday and I could be missing a really obvious one.[/quote]

    Are you talking about having ‘Tampa Bay’ on a uni? Because the lightning have it on theirs as well.

    http://www.sportsboo...
    Well, Greg was talking about baseball uniforms specifically. I can’t think of any Major League teams that do it, but there are probably a few Minor League teams.[/quote]

    Oops, he did say ‘baseball uniform’. Guess I should read a little slower… my bad.[/quote]

    Yeah, it just seems like it has been baseball tradition, more than any other sport, to have the team name or logo on the home whites and the city (or state in some cases) on the road grays. The increasing use of colored alts is changing that and I was just curious if any other baseball teams had a region name on the front of the jerseys. Tampa Bay seems to be the only one so far.[/quote]
    Brooklyn? Not a city or state.[/quote]

  • Anthony Verna | August 4, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    Since my last post didn’t seem to work, I’ll repeat that Brooklyn, NY was independent of New York City when the Dodgers were founded in 1883. (All five boroughs of NYC were incorporated into the city within the 20th Century.)

  • who cares | August 4, 2008 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”283291″][quote comment=”283289″][quote comment=”283286″][quote comment=”283284″]speaking of tampa & st. pete…

    anyone know the status of this new ray ballpark?[/quote]

    I think the motion to get it put before the city council was shot down. They will try again later though. People (tax payers) are concerned that they will have to pay for the stadium but they are going to use private money and money from the rezoning of the area that the Trop is at the current location.[/quote]

    It has been delayed[/quote]

    Link did not work. Here it is http://www.tampabay....

    People in St. Pete saw their neighbors in Tampa buy the Glazer family a new stadium and continue to see the Glazer’s pocket a percentage of parking, tickets, and concessions at non-Bucs related events. I think the Rays will be hard-pressed to extort that kind of deal out of the city.

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote]I had chair in college from the rare black Naugha.[/quote]

    named hyde?

    and look…

    you can adopt one today!

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”283271″]Brooklyn? Not a city or state.[/quote]

    Brooklyn’s not a city?

    Who knew?

  • Brendan | August 4, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    I love the look of the proposed stadium, but we all know how well baseball stadiums with towers holding the roof turn out.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”283297″][quote comment=”283271″]Brooklyn? Not a city or state.[/quote]

    Brooklyn’s not a city?

    Who knew?[/quote]

    This doesn’t somehow bring us around to the Flushing Mets, does it?

  • Brendan | August 4, 2008 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”283297″][quote comment=”283271″]Brooklyn? Not a city or state.[/quote]

    Brooklyn’s not a city?

    Who knew?[/quote]

    Brooklyn hasn’t been an independent city since the 19th century. Notice how the Hon. Howard Golden is the Borough President, not the City Mayor (or any analogue).

  • Venerable Bede | August 4, 2008 at 3:20 pm |

    The San Francisco Chronicle on Sunday had an article about the first years in Oakland and had a few pictures to go along with it, including one that I had never known about before- Joe Dimaggio in an A’s jersey. I never knew that he was an A’s coach.

    I’m guessing the line around the “A” is a flaw in the negative.

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”283285″]Tampa is the name of a city. St. Petersburg is the name of a city. Tampa Bay is the name of a region that encompasses both.[/quote]

    It’s also the name of a body of water.

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”283302″][quote comment=”283285″]Tampa is the name of a city. St. Petersburg is the name of a city. Tampa Bay is the name of a region that encompasses both.[/quote]

    It’s also the name of a body of water.[/quote]
    Which makes me wonder why the hell the Buccaneers were named that in the first place. I understand you want to pull in fans from St. Pete, but its like if they named them the San Francisco Bay Giants when they moved from NY just so they could pull in fans from Oakland.

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”283300″][quote comment=”283297″][quote comment=”283271″]Brooklyn? Not a city or state.[/quote]

    Brooklyn’s not a city?

    Who knew?[/quote]

    Brooklyn hasn’t been an independent city since the 19th century. Notice how the Hon. Howard Golden is the Borough President, not the City Mayor (or any analogue).[/quote]

    I know this. I couldn’t find the shot from the opening of Welcome Back Kotter, which has the same (basic) sign, just from the 1970s.

    If Brooklyn’s not a city, why say “fourth-largest city in the US?”

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”283304″][quote comment=”283300″][quote comment=”283297″][quote comment=”283271″]Brooklyn? Not a city or state.[/quote]

    Brooklyn’s not a city?

    Who knew?[/quote]

    Brooklyn hasn’t been an independent city since the 19th century. Notice how the Hon. Howard Golden is the Borough President, not the City Mayor (or any analogue).[/quote]

    I know this. I couldn’t find the shot from the opening of Welcome Back Kotter, which has the same (basic) sign, just from the 1970s.

    If Brooklyn’s not a city, why say “fourth-largest city in the US?”[/quote]

    Hype. Saying,”If we were a city we’d be 4th largest in U.S.”

    Kinda like when Nebraska’s football stadium is full it is third largest city in the sate…or equivalent thereof.

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”283303″][quote comment=”283302″][quote comment=”283285″]Tampa is the name of a city. St. Petersburg is the name of a city. Tampa Bay is the name of a region that encompasses both.[/quote]

    It’s also the name of a body of water.[/quote]
    Which makes me wonder why the hell the Buccaneers were named that in the first place. I understand you want to pull in fans from St. Pete, but its like if they named them the San Francisco Bay Giants when they moved from NY just so they could pull in fans from Oakland.[/quote]

    To be fair, the teams aren’t named after the body of water. It’s just a coincidence.

    No, but when the Warriors moved to Oakland, they avoided calling themselves “Oakland” and the original name for the USFL’s Invaders was “Bay Area Invaders.”

    As for Tampa Bay, it makes more sense if you are from there and understand that they were attempting to be inclusive. I’d have to check to see which of the two teams announced their name first (Tampa Bay Rowdies of the NASL or the Bucs), but that wouldn’t tell us who had the idea first.

    Just because the Giants didn’t do it doesn’t mean anything at all. “San Francisco,” even in 1958, had a hell of a lot more cachet just by itself than “Tampa” did, even in 1976.

    And, as I said, if you were from there(as I am), it would make more sense. The last strictly “Tampa” team I can think of was the old Tampa Tarpons of the Florida State League, but that name was established eons ago. And, now, the Tampa Yankees, which makes sense because Steinbrenner’s very much a Tampa guy, as opposed to a Bay Area guy. And there are a bunch of FSL teams in the Bay area.

  • Paul Lukas | August 4, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”283229″]Paul,
    Will you be doing a college football preview this season in your ESPN column, where you detail all of the uni changes that each team makes?[/quote]

    Yes. That column should run on August 28th.

    [quote comment=”283304″]If Brooklyn’s not a city, why say “fourth-largest city in the US?”[/quote]

    Because having an outsized sense of local pride (okay, hubris) is part of being a Brooklynite. We like to think of ourselves as a city, we like to wax romantic/nostalgic about the Dodgers, etc., etc. It’s all part of the Brooklyn shtick.

  • KT | August 4, 2008 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”283305″]Hype. Saying,”If we were a city we’d be 4th largest in U.S.”[/quote]

    Without the qualifier.

    Because if Brooklyn puts up a sign saying they’re a city, it seems to me they should actually be a city.

    I don’t even know how you actually define a city. Is it self-governance? Letterhead? Sewer service? I don’t know.

  • Ricko | August 4, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”283303″][quote comment=”283302″][quote comment=”283285″]Tampa is the name of a city. St. Petersburg is the name of a city. Tampa Bay is the name of a region that encompasses both.[/quote]

    It’s also the name of a body of water.[/quote]
    Which makes me wonder why the hell the Buccaneers were named that in the first place. I understand you want to pull in fans from St. Pete, but its like if they named them the San Francisco Bay Giants when they moved from NY just so they could pull in fans from Oakland.[/quote]

    Prior to any pro teams being established in the area it was almost always referred to as “Tampa-St. Petersburg.” In that respect was much like “Minneapolis-St.Paul,” accurate but unwieldly as hell.

    “Tampa Bay” was, I think, their equivalent of Twins ownership’s decision to go with “Minnesota” rather than M-SP or even “Twin Cities”.

  • Stuby | August 4, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”283306″][quote comment=”283303″][quote comment=”283302″][quote comment=”283285″]Tampa is the name of a city. St. Petersburg is the name of a city. Tampa Bay is the name of a region that encompasses both.[/quote]

    It’s also the name of a body of water.[/quote]
    Which makes me wonder why the hell the Buccaneers were named that in the first place. I understand you want to pull in fans from St. Pete, but its like if they named them the San Francisco Bay Giants when they moved from NY just so they could pull in fans from Oakland.[/quote]

    To be fair, the teams aren’t named after the body of water. It’s just a coincidence.

    No, but when the Warriors moved to Oakland, they avoided calling themselves “Oakland” and the original name for the USFL’s Invaders was “Bay Area Invaders.”

    As for Tampa Bay, it makes more sense if you are from there and understand that they were attempting to be inclusive. I’d have to check to see which of the two teams announced their name first (Tampa Bay Rowdies of the NASL or the Bucs), but that wouldn’t tell us who had the idea first.

    Just because the Giants didn’t do it doesn’t mean anything at all. “San Francisco,” even in 1958, had a hell of a lot more cachet just by itself than “Tampa” did, even in 1976.

    And, as I said, if you were from there(as I am), it would make more sense. The last strictly “Tampa” team I can think of was the old Tampa Tarpons of the Florida State League, but that name was established eons ago. And, now, the Tampa Yankees, which makes sense because Steinbrenner’s very much a Tampa guy, as opposed to a Bay Area guy. And there are a bunch of FSL teams in the Bay area.[/quote]
    Thanks, KT. Good to get an explanation from a local.

    BTW, all this Tampa (Bay) talk reminded me of this site.
    http://tampabaygiant...

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”283311″][quote comment=”283304″]If Brooklyn’s not a city, why say “fourth-largest city in the US?”[/quote]

    Because having an outsized sense of local pride (okay, hubris) is part of being a Brooklynite. We like to think of ourselves as a city, we like to wax romantic/nostalgic about the Dodgers, etc., etc. It’s all part of the Brooklyn shtick.[/quote]

    yous guys from other parts of the country might find this primer intersting

    it splains Breuckelen…see…that’s from the dutch…

    kinda gives you a idear of how brooklynites consider themselves a city

    fixed…

  • Brendan | August 4, 2008 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”283308″][quote comment=”283305″]Hype. Saying,”If we were a city we’d be 4th largest in U.S.”[/quote]

    Without the qualifier.

    Because if Brooklyn puts up a sign saying they’re a city, it seems to me they should actually be a city.

    I don’t even know how you actually define a city. Is it self-governance? Letterhead? Sewer service? I don’t know.[/quote]

    It varies state-to-state. Self-governance is the main issue, and some states require a certain population.

  • chance | August 4, 2008 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”283308″][quote comment=”283305″]Hype. Saying,”If we were a city we’d be 4th largest in U.S.”[/quote]

    Without the qualifier.

    Because if Brooklyn puts up a sign saying they’re a city, it seems to me they should actually be a city.

    I don’t even know how you actually define a city. Is it self-governance? Letterhead? Sewer service? I don’t know.[/quote]

    There is a legal definition, which varies from state to state. What municipalities can call themselves a city, as opposed to town.

  • Scott | August 4, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    Large photo of the new Syracuse Home Unis

    http://blog.syracuse...

  • Robert Jones | August 4, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”283215″]1-1 game in the 8th and they’re off on a tangent. And when Brenly can use 12 words, he uses 24 as if he gets a bulk discount. It’s just annoying as all hell.[/quote]

    Aww, don’t you think you’re being a bit hard on Brenly? :) Yeah, the and Len can really ramble on a lot, but I’ve never seen them ignoring real action in order to continue a monologue. Brenly may be a bit rambly, but he does seem to have a real love of the game, IMO.

    Annoying are the Sox announcing duo. I accidentally DVRd the Sox feed of one of the Crosstown games this year rather than the Cubs feed, and the whole time, listening to those two morons sputter on, I felt like puncturing my eardrums with splintered chopsticks just to make it stop.

  • Mickel Yantz | August 4, 2008 at 5:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”283213″]Let’s readdress something here…why does anything think the Seahawks had no logos on helmets their first season?

    Maybe, yes, as someone noted, in training camp but…

    (Anyone remember that Ahmad Rashad was an original Seahawk? Was in camp with them–have no idea what number he wore, had been 27 with Bills–but was traded to Vikings because Seahawk offensive genius Jerry Rhome said Rashad, “Wasn’t the kind of receiver who’d fit in with our offense.”)[/quote]

    The Seahawks did have their logo on the helmets for the ’76 season. For some great photos go to Becky’s Place “Spirit of 76” page at http://www.beckys-pl...
    And you’re right Ahmad did not make the cut. Could you imagine a few seasons with Ahmad and Largent! Oh well.

  • MPowers1634 | August 4, 2008 at 6:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”283315″]Large photo of the new Syracuse Home Unis

    http://blog.syracuse...

    I have always liked the uniforms of Syracuse, these do not disappoint!

    Check out this taxi with Michigan’s helmet wings!
    http://www.umich.edu...

    Here’s the story:
    http://www.umich.edu...

  • TOB | August 4, 2008 at 6:08 pm |

    I’d expect the Cubs radio announcers Pat Hughes and Ron Santo, to be on top of the uni issue, at least until Ron had another one of his senior moments, forgetting what the last batter did. Then he’d talk about how much he loves Seattle Suttons acapulco taco pie.

  • cah | August 4, 2008 at 6:47 pm |

    I’m liking the new uniforms for the British Olympic cycling team.

    (Not necessarily appropriate for work)

  • lwiedy | August 4, 2008 at 6:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    Phil, is this info new? As of June 15th, here was the company line as reported by the St. Pete Times:
    “The Rays told MLB they plan no significant uniform changes for 2009, meaning TAMPA BAY will not return to the road jerseys. They are considering adding an “alternate” jersey that will also say RAYS”

  • cah | August 4, 2008 at 7:17 pm |
  • Brian | August 4, 2008 at 7:40 pm |

    The high socks seem to be a growing trend on the Yankees.

  • Timothy B | August 4, 2008 at 7:42 pm |

    Didn’t Syracuse just change their football jerseys last year???

    If so, why the need for another change so soon?

  • who cares | August 4, 2008 at 7:48 pm |

    No news is good news at UF’s first practice.

    http://gximg.ny.publ...

  • Taha | August 4, 2008 at 8:17 pm |

    Apparently, Erin Andrew’s attire at last Wednesdays Cubs-Brewers game has become a topic of debate.

    Deadspin has a picture. Erin Andrews is a good reporter who also happens to be very eye-catching, but it’s never good when the reporter becomes the news.

    Maybe that can be a future uniwatch topic…the clothes of sideline reporters through the years.

  • FinanceBuzz | August 4, 2008 at 8:18 pm |

    You got it on the new Tech uniforms. We traded in a very traditional, classic design for…the Arena League. Embarrassing. It seems that many don’t like it from the poll on the Atlanta newspaper website. I also agree would be a LOT better without that blue piping across the chest.

  • Robert Jones | August 4, 2008 at 8:20 pm |

    I take back everything I have said in defense of Bob Brenly. This is worse than having two buttons undone on your vest.

    I know it’s 70s night, but do you have to wear yellow under the pins?

  • Patrick S. | August 4, 2008 at 8:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”283315″]Large photo of the new Syracuse Home Unis

    http://blog.syracuse...

    “I see your schwartz is as big as mine!”

  • who cares | August 4, 2008 at 8:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”283332″][quote comment=”283315″]Large photo of the new Syracuse Home Unis

    http://blog.syracuse...

    “I see your schwartz is as big as mine!”[/quote]

    If a Syracuse player takes a blue and orange highlighter and colors in the white Nike swooshes, would it be against NCAA regs or just piss the coach off?

  • boydmonkey | August 4, 2008 at 8:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”283326″]Didn’t Syracuse just change their football jerseys last year???

    If so, why the need for another change so soon?[/quote]

    Here’s why…

    http://media.college...

    That’s last year’s uni. Here’s this year’s again…

    http://blog.syracuse...

    Much, much better. It made me ill when they took out the white two years ago. Glad it’s back. Let’s hope there’s no all orange alts this year.

  • James Craven | August 4, 2008 at 8:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”283315″]“Large photo of the new Syracuse Home Unis:”

    http://blog.syracuse...

    Now, if they would only ditch the UCLA striping…and the coach…

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”283323″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    Phil, is this info new? As of June 15th, here was the company line as reported by the St. Pete Times:
    “The Rays told MLB they plan no significant uniform changes for 2009, meaning TAMPA BAY will not return to the road jerseys. They are considering adding an “alternate” jersey that will also say RAYS”[/quote]

    larry, i honestly don’t know…i was searching for something else and i happened upon this (google image search)…i never checked the source article, and i’ve since forgotten my search terms, so backtracking to it would be nigh on umpossible…my bad there

    that being said…it wouldn’t surprise me to see something like that (especially in light of the rays new penchant for wearing those ugly as shit pajama tops slump-busting BP jerseys in games)…but i’d go with the “official” rays news

    …and hmmm…seems as tho the pic has now been taken down from flickr…wonder if it was due to UW traffic?

  • Dan | August 4, 2008 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”283334″][quote comment=”283326″]Didn’t Syracuse just change their football jerseys last year???

    If so, why the need for another change so soon?[/quote]

    Here’s why…

    http://media.college...

    That’s last year’s uni. Here’s this year’s again…

    http://blog.syracuse...

    Much, much better. It made me ill when they took out the white two years ago. Glad it’s back. Let’s hope there’s no all orange alts this year.[/quote]

    I actually opt for the no white trim uniforms. Gave Syracuse their own unique look. But they should have kept the numbers on the helmets. Last year’s uniforms were some of the best I’ve ever seen.

  • LI Phil | August 4, 2008 at 9:47 pm |

    hey… the porn ‘stache is gone

  • lwiedy | August 4, 2008 at 10:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”283336″][quote comment=”283323″][quote comment=”283227″]not sure if we covered this way back when, but has anyone seen the ‘possible’ tampa bay ray alt uni top for ’09?

    better than that batting practice shit they’ve worn at least twice (prolly more) this season[/quote]

    Phil, is this info new? As of June 15th, here was the company line as reported by the St. Pete Times:
    “The Rays told MLB they plan no significant uniform changes for 2009, meaning TAMPA BAY will not return to the road jerseys. They are considering adding an “alternate” jersey that will also say RAYS”[/quote]

    larry, i honestly don’t know…i was searching for something else and i happened upon this (google image search)…i never checked the source article, and i’ve since forgotten my search terms, so backtracking to it would be nigh on umpossible…my bad there

    that being said…it wouldn’t surprise me to see something like that (especially in light of the rays new penchant for wearing those ugly as shit pajama tops slump-busting BP jerseys in games)…but i’d go with the “official” rays news

    …and hmmm…seems as tho the pic has now been taken down from flickr…wonder if it was due to UW traffic?[/quote]

    Speaking of butt ugly BP’s. The FSL Dunedin Blue Jays (A) were wearing these tonight in Clearwater:
    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...
    I personally hadn’t seen a club in this league wearing Under Armour jerseys. Are these getting around?

  • who cares | August 4, 2008 at 10:28 pm |

    Smithsonian has a great collection of African photographs in the Eliot Elisofon photographic archive. I found pics of my all time favorite team, the Accra Hearts of Oak, and some crowd shots of Accra Stadium. I have no idea who the team in yellow is but am pleased to see how well the Phobians uniforms have stood the test of time. I can only guess that the pink shorts are a result of washing the red jersies with the white pants. I wonder if Paul will like the socks? Unfortunately they are a historical legacy now.

  • who cares | August 4, 2008 at 10:36 pm |

    The old timey photos are from 1959 by the way.

  • Dave Murphy | August 4, 2008 at 11:05 pm |

    I am also quite disappointed in the Georgia Tech uniforms. I do like the shade of Gold and the white shoestrings. Tech seemed to be one of the first teams to switch to white shoes in the early 70’s. Hate the “stripes” on the pants and four patches on the jersey…NASCAR here we come.

    What made it evan more disappointing was Duke coming out with a classic new uni the same day.

  • Britt | August 4, 2008 at 11:17 pm |

    there was some debate yesterday about Tech’s colors. Georgia Tech’s official colors are old gold and white. Each athletic team is allowed to pick the third color (navy or black). The football team has always worn white at home except for when the NCAA had that rule that required teams to wear dark home jerseys. http://ramblinwreck....

  • James Craven | August 5, 2008 at 12:15 am |

    There’s another rain delay in the Astros-Cubs game. The first one was when all the tornado warning alarms went off…and there’s one near Wrigley from what I see.

  • James Craven | August 5, 2008 at 12:41 am |

    Oh, do I have a dilema on my hands at 3 PM ET tomorrow:

    Do I watch the presser at Busch Stadium unveiling the 2009 All-Star Game logo on mlb.com, or do I watch them implode the last old Ruby Tuesday on their site?

  • LI Phil | August 5, 2008 at 12:49 am |

    [quote comment=”283345″]Oh, do I have a dilema on my hands at 3 PM ET tomorrow:

    Do I watch the presser at Busch Stadium unveiling the 2009 All-Star Game logo on mlb.com, or do I watch them implode the last old Ruby Tuesday on their site?[/quote]

    going to work not an option?

  • Robert Jones | August 5, 2008 at 1:00 am |

    [quote comment=”283344″]There’s another rain delay in the Astros-Cubs game.[/quote]

    Game called on account of OH MY GOD WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!

    I have a cap of Lance Berkman running for his life after a stunningly loud lightning strike, but it’s not really uni-related, unless you’re interested in the strange brown stain on his hind-quarters.

  • James Craven | August 5, 2008 at 1:11 am |

    [quote comment=”283346″]“Going to work not an option?”[/quote]

    I work at home. And Robert, I might have seen a large brown stain on Berkman’s jammies.

  • James Craven | August 5, 2008 at 3:23 am |

    BTW, on the St. Pete Times Forum, where the Lightning play, the rival newspaper the Tampa Tribune still refers to it by its’ old name “The Ice Palace” under orders from Media General, the paper’s owners, when stories from there are reported.

  • bugo | August 5, 2008 at 6:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”283187″][quote comment=”283181″][quote comment=”283177″]It’s the Duke Colts![/quote]

    I had the exact same thought. The look just like the Colts. I wonder if they got a deal on the unis?[/quote]

    And it’s been the Iowa Steelers for, what, almost thirty years now?

    [/quote]

    And what about the Iowa State Chiefs?

  • mcsey | August 6, 2008 at 4:37 pm |

    Hey you just got a shout out on the Cubs broadcast for posting that transcript. Good ups, cool site.

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