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The Ricko Files, Vol. 4

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Ricko stepped it up a notch last week. In addition to sending me his usual assortment of archival clippings, he also shipped me a package, which contained a gorgeous pair of pinstriped flannel pants (he says they don’t fit him, but they fit me just right) and some killer striped hose (including, as you can see at in the upper-right corner, a rogue pair just to fuck with me). Never seen vertically striped stirrups before — that’s gonna look pretty swank on the softball field.

It’s hard to tell in the photo, but the four pairs of stirrups in the bottom row are all youth sizes. They’re way too small for me, but if you’ve got a kid and want him or her to be able to dress like a proper ballplayer, I’ll happily give away these four pairs to the first four parents who ask. Just drop me a line with your name and address, and specify your order of preference for the four designs shown. Update: All stirrups now spoken for, so no more applicants, please.

Now then, here’s our weekly dose of Ricko’s archival selections:

• Here are two unusual shots of Hank Aaron: one where he’s wearing No. 52, and one as a minor leaguer.

• Can never have too many pics of those vertically striped Broncos socks.

• We all know the Angels wore those halo-topped caps from 1961 through 1970. But Ricko says there were some exceptions along the way: “I went to a Twins/Angels game at Met Stadium in 1961 (the first season of both teams), and the Angels didn’t have a halo on their hats. I’m pretty sure of that, because I also watched the Twins play them later on TV and thought to myself, ‘Hey, they have a HALO on their hats now!’ Finding photos of halo-less hats hasn’t been easy, but I finally found one. Then I found this one (aside from Rocky Bridges’s hat, note the absence of a halo on the Angels player in the background).”

• Speaking of the Angels, I love those two-tone stirrups from the late ’60s (shown in color on Steve Dewing’s site). And look how narrow their waistband was in 1973.

• Two Cubs items here: First, Ernie Banks with a logo patch on his cap. “That kinda thing shows up often in the ’50s,” says Ricko. “I think maybe they were spring training hats. Probably was cheaper than embroidery.” And the team’s 1957 stirrups appear to have had at least nine stripes (which is too many even for me).

• Awesome set of 1971 MLB posters here.

• We’ve talked before about the Reds wearing white mesh-backed caps. What I didn’t realize until now is that they also had white batting helmets.

• Interesting stripe on the mound at Sportsman’s Park during the 1946 World Series. Anyone know if this was standard practice at that ballpark?

• Another good shot here of Willie Stargell doing the white-tape shoe thing.

That’s enough for now. More soon. My continued thanks to Ricko for sharing his amazing archive and expertise with us.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s something we all missed: George Sherrill’s Jim McKay memorial armband was on his left sleeve for the All-Star Game, even though the O’s have been wearing it on their right sleeve (good catch by Stephen King). … Why would Sean Jones wear shorts over his game pants? Jeffrey Moulden, who took the photo, says everyone else was just wearing their game pants. … Yesterday’s entry about the logo-emblazoned green dots led Joe Hilseberg to show me this hilarious video clip, which pretty well sums up the corporate design philosophy these days, in sports and otherwise. … Yesterday I linked to some anti-Mets T-shirts from Philly, which reminded Rob Ullman of this design, which he says he saw at the Small Press Expo during the ’06 NLCS. … FNOB alert: Antonio Freeman. That jersey is from the 2004 preseason, when the Dolphins also had Arturo Freeman on the roster (with thanks to Eric Stangel, who also pointed me toward an interesting piece of Lakers memorabilia). … Daniel O’Connor notes that Chad Johnson showed up at Bengals camp wearing a Sporting Club du Portugal (Sporting) kit. … Glenn Cook is covering the World Junior AAA Baseball Championships, which are being held in Edmonton and St. Albert, and took a really interesting photo of this Korean catcher’s helmet. “I didn’t know better, I’d almost think it was a modified bicycle helmet,” he writes. Also: Unfortunate logo creep on the Korean team’s socks. … Interesting historical tidbit from Ronnie Poore, who writes: “Did you know that in 1956 the famous clown Emmett Kelley left the circus to be the Brooklyn Dodgers mascot? Details here.” … Latest “worst uni ever” contenders: the Tampa Storm (with thanks to B.J. Foster). … Whoa, just when you thought you’d seen every stunt ever pulled by the 1976 White Sox, John Chadd comes along with this. The sombreros weren’t worn during the actual game, obviously, but still. Anyone know more about this? … Guess what game I won’t be attending. … No more sports bras for Oregon State, who jerseys will look like this. … Someone has started a petition to get the Steelers go go back to block uni numbers (with thanks to Hans Krake). … Good coverage of the new UMich football jerseys here (courtesy of Ryder Kouba). … Chad Pennington has apparently changed from this facemask to this one.

 

171 comments to The Ricko Files, Vol. 4

  • MAO | July 29, 2008 at 8:31 am |

    Actually that’s an FC Porto shirt Chad’s wearing.

  • Pat | July 29, 2008 at 8:38 am |

    Not for sure but the Circle Around the mound at sportsman’s park was a big enough feature that pre-construction renderings of Busch III (the current stadium) featured the same design around the mound. It wasn’t until the infield sod was laid down that anyone knew that the halo/circle around the mound would not be in the new park.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 8:41 am |

    [quote]Chad Pennington has apparently changed from this facemask to this one.[/quote]

    and apparently, it will soon be this one

    /bret teh jet

  • Scott Little | July 29, 2008 at 8:42 am |

    Fregosi card:
    That’s a 1962 Topps card. High series ’62 cards came out in the late summer of 1962, not ’61.

  • Scott Little | July 29, 2008 at 8:44 am |

    I would bet it was still a picture from 1961 though…

  • Joe D | July 29, 2008 at 8:47 am |

    The ’91-’92 Tampa Bay Storm uniforms were SO bad, that they’re actually GREAT! I’m still waiting for them to do a throwback night. I also liked their ’93-’94 unis (looking for pic) which looked like the San Diego Chargers in black, blue, and silver.

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 8:47 am |

    Guess what game I won’t be attending. …

    Paul, why do you hate the Big Brothers/Big Sisters? (teasing!)

    Sounds like a spot for a Uni Watch field trip: http://www.nytimes.c...

  • Mark Richter | July 29, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    The stripe around the mound at Sportsman’s Park, from my understanding, was a strip of dirt that was apparently like that for at least a few years of the ballpark’s existence. Of course, I can’t find any pictures or further documentation at this moment, but I have heard of this before. In fact, there was talk of doing this at the new Busch Stadium when it opened, but that obviously didn’t happen. I wouldn’t have minded at all if they had done this … very unique, with a nod to the past.

  • Mike Edgerly | July 29, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    If memory serves me correctly, didn’t damn near every Arena Football team in 1991 wear the Zubaz uniforms shown in that Tampa (Bay) Storm picture? The only exception I remember was the Detroit Drive. Looking for pics….

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 8:52 am |

    [quote comment=”282303″]The stripe around the mound at Sportsman’s Park, from my understanding, was a strip of dirt that was apparently like that for at least a few years of the ballpark’s existence. Of course, I can’t find any pictures or further documentation at this moment, but I have heard of this before. In fact, there was talk of doing this at the new Busch Stadium when it opened, but that obviously didn’t happen. I wouldn’t have minded at all if they had done this … very unique, with a nod to the past.[/quote]

    here’s a artist’s rendering of sportsman’s park showing the grass circle at the mound…

    …looking for more pics now

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    [quote comment=”282299″]Fregosi card:
    That’s a 1962 Topps card. High series ’62 cards came out in the late summer of 1962, not ’61.[/quote]

    Paul’s referring to the Rocky Bridges card.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    [quote comment=”282299″]Fregosi card:
    That’s a 1962 Topps card. High series ’62 cards came out in the late summer of 1962, not ’61.[/quote]

    But the link isn’t working.

  • Jake | July 29, 2008 at 8:56 am |

    Funny you mention the logo patch on Ernie Banks’s cap. Am I seeing things, or does Nolan Ryan’s cap in the photo on The Sporting News also have a patch?

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    black & white pic of the grass circle @ sportsman’s park

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    re: Those youth socks. Yeah, I knew they might not fit Paul, unless worn really low. Glad he’s sharing them.

    FYI, from left to right, the bottom row colors are:
    Black, Royal, Black w/orange and Brown w/orange-white.

    –Ricko

  • Scott Little | July 29, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    Gotcha. I look forward to checking out the 61 pic when it gets fixed then…

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    [quote comment=”282311″]Gotcha. I look forward to checking out the 61 pic when it gets fixed then…[/quote]

    BTW, player in bkgd on Bridges card is Ken Hunt, father of Butch Patrick (“Eddie Munster”).

  • Mike Edgerly | July 29, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    Scroll down to the bottom of this link for the Denver Dynamite’s 1991 Zubaz uni

    http://www.klaus2.co...

    Also, there’s an excellent You Tube of 1991 Arena Football Highlights, I can’t ID all the teams but can tell you that the TB Storm, Orlando Predators (playing in the o-rena), and the Detroit Drive (in ‘regular’ light blue with white helmets) are in there.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    From my memory, this video, and other sources, here are the 1991 Arena Football teams that did and did not wear the Zubaz.

    Zubaz:
    Tampa Bay Storm
    Orlando Predators
    New Orleans Night
    Albany Firebirds
    Denver Dynamite

    Did not:
    Detroit Drive
    (2 unidentifable from video)

  • Juan Grande | July 29, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”282304″]If memory serves me correctly, didn’t damn near every Arena Football team in 1991 wear the Zubaz uniforms shown in that Tampa (Bay) Storm picture? The only exception I remember was the Detroit Drive. Looking for pics….[/quote]

    Zubaz need to stay in the 90s where it belongs

  • Shane | July 29, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    Looking for the following info:
    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball jerseys: Were the name/numbers sewn or printed? I believe the numbers were sewn and the name printed, but can’t remember for sure.
    1996-97 Seattle Sonics NBA @50 throwback jersey: Were the name/numbers sewn or printed? I’m also looking for pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp.
    thanks

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”282313″]Scroll down to the bottom of this link for the Denver Dynamite’s 1991 Zubaz uni

    http://www.klaus2.co...

    Also, there’s an excellent You Tube of 1991 Arena Football Highlights, I can’t ID all the teams but can tell you that the TB Storm, Orlando Predators (playing in the o-rena), and the Detroit Drive (in ‘regular’ light blue with white helmets) are in there.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    From my memory, this video, and other sources, here are the 1991 Arena Football teams that did and did not wear the Zubaz.

    Zubaz:
    Tampa Bay Storm
    Orlando Predators
    New Orleans Night
    Albany Firebirds
    Denver Dynamite

    Did not:
    Detroit Drive
    (2 unidentifable from video)[/quote]

    I have maybe a dozen Arena games I taped from the first year of the league (’87). One of these days gotta dig them out. Best uni that first year, I think, was the Chicago Bruisers (black and blue, what else).

    Remember later when Cliff Branch played for the LA Cobras?

    Or the all-in-orange (well, white helmets) Miami Hooters with Mark Duper?

    Gotta give that league credit. They’ve come a long way despite getting a lot of shit from a lot of people. A franchise now goes for $20 million.

  • Stuby | July 29, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    Those Oregon State jerseys are a hundred times better than what they wore last year. Kudos to whoever made that call.

  • JF in DC | July 29, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    That link to the 1971 baseball posters brings back memories…yup, I got my O’s and my brother his Cards posters from Wheaties. That same year, I got another O’s one and a Reds poster from Sears, they came free when you bought a team sweatshirt. I still have the posters, packed away somewhere…sigh….

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”282317″]Those Oregon State jerseys are a hundred times better than what they wore last year. Kudos to whoever made that call.[/quote]
    I’m wondering if anyone else noticed they’re still made by Nike. “No more sports bras” is probably the closest thing to a compliment the folks from Beaverton can get on this blog!!!!

  • Peter Wunsch | July 29, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    In the 1971 poster, the SF Giants player wearing #32 looks exactly like the Juan Marichal on the Uniwatch ringer tee. Except Juan wore #27

  • Denver Gregg | July 29, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Much as it pains me to say it, the Raiders’ unis also look great in the pic featuring the Bronx’ striped sox.

  • kj | July 29, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”282295″]Actually that’s an FC Porto shirt Chad’s wearing.[/quote]

    Nope, that’s definitely Sporting, who are based in Lisbon. They both have the same sponsor, Portugal Telecom, but Porto wear blue vertical stripes while Sporting have green hoops.

    On one of those goofy ESPN shows about EA’s Madden series, he’s appeared on there wearing a Liverpool shirt, so I’m guessing that he’s a bit of a soccer fan.

  • Tom | July 29, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    Vote for OKC new team name…

  • Tom | July 29, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    well that didn’t work…new OKC here:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”282321″]Much as it pains me to say it, the Raiders’ unis also look great in the pic featuring the Bronx’ striped sox.[/quote]

    Raiders played home games at not-yet-fully-enclosed Candlestick Park in ’60 and part of ’61. Out beyond those fences, under the scoreboard, is SF Bay.

    –Ricko

  • Paul Lukas | July 29, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”282307″][quote comment=”282299″]Fregosi card:
    That’s a 1962 Topps card. High series ’62 cards came out in the late summer of 1962, not ’61.[/quote]

    But the link isn’t working.[/quote]

    My bad. Link now fixed in text. Looks like this:
    http://farm4.static....

  • Seth H | July 29, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    Pictures of Jim Fregosi and Nolan Ryan the same day? Paul, you’re killing us old Mets fans.

  • Helmets Match Pants | July 29, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    Thank goodness somebody is trying to get those stupid numbers off the Steelers uniforms.

    Ever since Nike changed them to the “slash” numbers for Kordell Stewart the Steelers have looked like a bunch of fools.

  • KT | July 29, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    Tampa Bay Storm, thank you very much.

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”282328″]Thank goodness somebody is trying to get those stupid numbers off the Steelers uniforms.

    Ever since Nike changed them to the “slash” numbers for Kordell Stewart the Steelers have looked like a bunch of fools.[/quote]
    Wow, I’ve heard Kordell blamed for all kinds of things but never the change of the numeric font! Are there any legs to that story or is it just opinion?

  • simon | July 29, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    For those interested in Japanese baseball, here’s one of recently retired Masumi Kuwata (briefly with Pittsburgh, retired this preseason) played batting practice pitcher to slugger and former teammate from Yomiuri and high school Kazuhiro Kiyohara. Interestingly Kuwata wore his Pirates #18 uni against Kiyohara’s Orix Buffaloes.
    http://jhockey.wordp...
    And I also recently caught a few games of high school ball and one game in particular was a stirrup haven. Take a look at the last photo with the bases loaded and ball in play.
    http://jhockey.wordp...

  • Phil Pereira | July 29, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    Paul, it’s Sporting Clube DE Portugal. Learn your portuguese man ;)

  • Abomb | July 29, 2008 at 10:02 am |

    Maybe it’s because I don’t pay attention to baseball anymore, but in the pic of the mound ring, why are there three infielders on the first base side?

    http://farm4.static....

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”282319″][quote comment=”282317″]Those Oregon State jerseys are a hundred times better than what they wore last year. Kudos to whoever made that call.[/quote]
    I’m wondering if anyone else noticed they’re still made by Nike. “No more sports bras” is probably the closest thing to a compliment the folks from Beaverton can get on this blog!!!![/quote]

    no love for the swoosh here, douggie

    i don’t mind when paul bashes critiques the beaverton gang, but it gets annoying when the lemmings second that emotion without offering any rationale or reasoning behind their destain

    while even nike affectionadoes prolly hated the sports bra look, i bet a few (you know who you are) will find these new uni’s “boring” (while the term ‘classic’ comes to my mind)

    echoing the “kudos” thoughts, am i

    /guessing UO won’t be getting any similar treatment tho…

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”282334″][quote comment=”282319″][quote comment=”282317″]Those Oregon State jerseys are a hundred times better than what they wore last year. Kudos to whoever made that call.[/quote]
    I’m wondering if anyone else noticed they’re still made by Nike. “No more sports bras” is probably the closest thing to a compliment the folks from Beaverton can get on this blog!!!![/quote]

    no love for the swoosh here, douggie

    i don’t mind when paul bashes critiques the beaverton gang, but it gets annoying when the lemmings second that emotion without offering any rationale or reasoning behind their destain

    while even nike affectionadoes prolly hated the sports bra look, i bet a few (you know who you are) will find these new uni’s “boring” (while the term ‘classic’ comes to my mind)

    echoing the “kudos” thoughts, am i

    /guessing UO won’t be getting any similar treatment tho…[/quote]
    Yeah, I really like them and my brother, an Oregon State fan, will no doubt like the change.

    They’re sharp, I like the orange, just hoping it won’t have orange pants! Isn’t it refreshing to see a new uniform without wordmarks above the number on the front? Too many jerseys are cluttered these days.

  • S. Bennett | July 29, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”282295″]Actually that’s an FC Porto shirt Chad’s wearing.[/quote]

    No, that’s definitely Sporting Clube de Portugal – AKA Sporting Lisbon. Don’t let the sponsor fool you. Note the horizontal hoops, not vertical stripes. Note green and white, not blue and white. Looks like an older kit made by Reebok, not the more recent made by Puma.

    Puma 07/08:

    http://www.soccer.co...

    Reebok 2005 (chest numbers instead of sponsor), but note the positioning of white Reebok logo on green stripe, instead of usual black logo on white.
    http://www.upyarkilt...

    SB

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”282330″][quote comment=”282328″]Thank goodness somebody is trying to get those stupid numbers off the Steelers uniforms.

    Ever since Nike changed them to the “slash” numbers for Kordell Stewart the Steelers have looked like a bunch of fools.[/quote]
    Wow, I’ve heard Kordell blamed for all kinds of things but never the change of the numeric font! Are there any legs to that story or is it just opinion?[/quote]

    sure…

    slash got the steelers to change from their block font starter unis to the nike slash font

    he also got da bears to change to rounded numerals, as well as the ravens

    word on the street is that he tried to get the buffs to go all slashy…but he got a cadillac instead

    of course…who knows what font the flaming tacks have…but im sure kordell had to give it his stamp of approval as well

  • u2-horn | July 29, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”282333″]Maybe it’s because I don’t pay attention to baseball anymore, but in the pic of the mound ring, why are there three infielders on the first base side?

    http://farm4.static....

    Musial shift?

    Teams sometime overload one side of the field when a notorious pull hitter is at the plate. The shortstop here is playing on the other side of second, while the 3rd baseman will play where the SS normally is.

    http://espn.go.com/m...

  • Daver | July 29, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    http://news.steelers...

    The Steelers throwback jersey from last year is being sold as a “Third Jersey”. That, plus the fact they have worn the gold helmets in practice, makes me think they will be wearing the uniforms this year (and maybe future years?) for a couple games. Of course, this may be old news to all of you. But its news to me.

    Also, note the jersey can have “any name any number” but its for “Current Players Only”. I’m not sure what that means. Does that mean “Bradshaw 12” is not available or “anyname 12”? I guess they’re trying to protect their legacy, or something like that. Do all teams do this?

  • Jefferson D | July 29, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    Ricko is a legend! This guy deserves the title of Original UniWatcher or something. It takes dedication (or obsession) to pay this much attention back in the day. For this, I say thanks.

  • Joe M | July 29, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”282333″]Maybe it’s because I don’t pay attention to baseball anymore, but in the pic of the mound ring, why are there three infielders on the first base side?

    http://farm4.static....

    Since the picture is from the 1946 World Series, it could be the batter is Ted Williams and the Cardinals were employing the shift for him? The batter does have the look of Ted’s stance.

  • Paul F. | July 29, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”282337″][quote comment=”282330″][quote comment=”282328″]Thank goodness somebody is trying to get those stupid numbers off the Steelers uniforms.

    Ever since Nike changed them to the “slash” numbers for Kordell Stewart the Steelers have looked like a bunch of fools.[/quote]
    Wow, I’ve heard Kordell blamed for all kinds of things but never the change of the numeric font! Are there any legs to that story or is it just opinion?[/quote]

    sure…

    slash got the steelers to change from their block font starter unis to the nike slash font

    he also got da bears to change to rounded numerals, as well as the ravens

    word on the street is that he tried to get the buffs to go all slashy…but he got a cadillac instead

    of course…who knows what font the flaming tacks have…but im sure kordell had to give it his stamp of approval as well[/quote]

    PLease tell me you didn’t either A. call my team’s qb kordell stewart or B.compare vy to Kordell. Regardless i do like the flaming toothpicks joke.

  • Jet | July 29, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”282340″]Ricko is a legend! This guy deserves the title of Original UniWatcher or something. It takes dedication (or obsession) to pay this much attention back in the day. For this, I say thanks.[/quote]

    AMEN! I second the motion!!!

    RE: Those MLB posters….I had the similar set of hockey posters from around the same time, but don’t recall these baseball ones.

    I think if I had the Royals one I’d be frightened as a little kid of the pitcher with the bugged-out eyes!

    And on the Expos poster – what exactly is the largest player in the center of the poster supposed to be doing?!?!?

    -Jet

  • Brendon | July 29, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    Why would Sean Jones wear shorts over his game pants?

    I went to training camp on Saturday, and other players had shorts over their playing pants. I’ll try to send pictures to Paul tonight.

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”282339″]http://news.steelers.com/catalog/product/91379/

    The Steelers throwback jersey from last year is being sold as a “Third Jersey”. That, plus the fact they have worn the gold helmets in practice, makes me think they will be wearing the uniforms this year (and maybe future years?) for a couple games. Of course, this may be old news to all of you. But its news to me.

    Also, note the jersey can have “any name any number” but its for “Current Players Only”. I’m not sure what that means. Does that mean “Bradshaw 12” is not available or “anyname 12”? I guess they’re trying to protect their legacy, or something like that. Do all teams do this?[/quote]
    First, this is good news. I loved that uni last year and am looking forward to seeing it again this year. I brought up photos of the Steelers practicing in yellow helmets a few times here but nothing was ever discovered on an official announcement. I would say this store offering is about as official as it gets. The 75th anniversary patch is gone too.

    I think the “any name, any number” program works as such: you can get any name/number combination which is when you see people with their own name on the back of jersey. Although I find this corny, with the way guys switch teams anymore, it’s the safest bet (I still wouldn’t do it though).

    Secondly, many people use the anyname/number option to purchase a player that is less popular and doesn’t have jerseys pre-made. Offensive linemen come to mind here.

    I think what they are saying is, “if your any name/number choice is that of a player, it has to be a current player” so this would disqualify you from Bradshaw or any other retired/former Steeler.

    However, a #12 with “SMITH” would be acceptible.

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”282344″]Why would Sean Jones wear shorts over his game pants?

    I went to training camp on Saturday, and other players had shorts over their playing pants. I’ll try to send pictures to Paul tonight.[/quote]
    Could the players be using the game pants as spandex/compression shorts for support? Without thigh and knee pads, a pair of football pants would have a similar fit. It looks odd though but whatever works.

  • Brendon | July 29, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”282346″][quote comment=”282344″]Why would Sean Jones wear shorts over his game pants?

    I went to training camp on Saturday, and other players had shorts over their playing pants. I’ll try to send pictures to Paul tonight.[/quote]
    Could the players be using the game pants as spandex/compression shorts for support? Without thigh and knee pads, a pair of football pants would have a similar fit. It looks odd though but whatever works.[/quote]

    Could possibly be for that reason. One of the O-linemen i remember was catching hell from the o-line coach. It was pretty funny

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | July 29, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    Peter Wunsch: In the 1971 poster, the SF Giants player wearing #32 looks exactly like the Juan Marichal on the Uniwatch ringer tee. Except Juan wore #27

    Right, very interesting! Especially since a few other recognisable players are shown with their correct numbers — even on the Giants poster we see the likeness of Bobby Bonds wearing his correct no. 25. Also correctly depicted is Tommie Agee (no. 20) on the Met poster.

    Another number-switcheroo seems to have been done on the A’s poster. That “no. 8” strongly resembles Reggie Jackson, who actually wore no. 9.

    It is interesting that the only clearly-drawn individual on any poster appears to be Luis Aparicio on the White Sox poster. Unfortunately, he was no longer with the club in 1971.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”282343″][quote comment=”282340″]Ricko is a legend! This guy deserves the title of Original UniWatcher or something. It takes dedication (or obsession) to pay this much attention back in the day. For this, I say thanks.[/quote]

    AMEN! I second the motion!!!

    RE: Those MLB posters….I had the similar set of hockey posters from around the same time, but don’t recall these baseball ones.

    I think if I had the Royals one I’d be frightened as a little kid of the pitcher with the bugged-out eyes!

    And on the Expos poster – what exactly is the largest player in the center of the poster supposed to be doing?!?!?

    -Jet[/quote]

    First baseman, after long stretch. That artist used a lot of existing art for reference, and not sticking to same team. Two of the images in Giants poster are Mays. If memory serves (and it still does more times than not) the photo he used there was of Willie McCovey. I may even have it in my Giants file. Dunno.

    Thanks for the props, everyone. Nice to know someone else appreciates the things I do. Glad those socks got claimed.

    Also, I’m pretty sure I have cereal box back with those hockey posters, too. A single player on white background with large team logo. Those the ones you remember?

    –Ricko

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”282350″][quote comment=”282343″][quote comment=”282340″]Ricko is a legend! This guy deserves the title of Original UniWatcher or something. It takes dedication (or obsession) to pay this much attention back in the day. For this, I say thanks.[/quote]

    AMEN! I second the motion!!!

    RE: Those MLB posters….I had the similar set of hockey posters from around the same time, but don’t recall these baseball ones.

    I think if I had the Royals one I’d be frightened as a little kid of the pitcher with the bugged-out eyes!

    And on the Expos poster – what exactly is the largest player in the center of the poster supposed to be doing?!?!?

    -Jet[/quote]

    First baseman, after long stretch. That artist used a lot of existing art for reference, and not sticking to same team. Two of the images in Giants poster are Mays. If memory serves (and it still does more times than not) the photo he used there was of Willie McCovey. I may even have it in my Giants file. Dunno.

    Thanks for the props, everyone. Nice to know someone else appreciates the things I do. Glad those socks got claimed.

    Also, I’m pretty sure I have cereal box back with those hockey posters, too. A single player on white background with large team logo. Those the ones you remember?

    –Ricko[/quote]

    I meant McCovey for that Expo first baseman.

  • Derek | July 29, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    Speaking of Chad Pennington’s facemask change, how many NFL players are still wearing his former facemask style? Byron Leftwich is the only one I can think of off the top of my head, but that style used to be used by a number of QBs in the ’80s and early ’90s, Marino, Aikman, Esiason, Bledsoe, just to name a few. But it seems that it’s gone the way of the dodo, which totally doesn’t bother me.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”282341″][quote comment=”282333″]Maybe it’s because I don’t pay attention to baseball anymore, but in the pic of the mound ring, why are there three infielders on the first base side?

    http://farm4.static....

    Since the picture is from the 1946 World Series, it could be the batter is Ted Williams and the Cardinals were employing the shift for him? The batter does have the look of Ted’s stance.[/quote]

    Yup. Is Williams shift, that’s why photo was in the book accompanying story about ’46 World Series.

    Note in story says Red Sox got new unis for the series.

    Cardinals had theirs dry-cleaned.

    –Ricko

  • Urban Runoff | July 29, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    I never understood the FNOB or even the first initial. I mean, don’t the numbers distinguish them already? Isn’t that the point of numbers? And can’t you tell the two players apart, anyway? –Runoff

  • cah | July 29, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    “Chad Pennington has apparently changed from this facemask to this one.”

    Now if he can change from Gumby’s arm to a real one.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote]PLease tell me you didn’t either A. call my team’s qb kordell stewart or B.compare vy to Kordell. Regardless i do like the flaming toothpicks joke.[/quote]

    sorry for the vince pic…i was trying to work in a titans joke…had all those “rounded 10” pics, and thought i’d pretend to put slash as a flaming TACK…

    no offense to vy…slash…you’re no vince (although you prolly scored higher on the wonderlic)

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”282349″] Peter Wunsch: In the 1971 poster, the SF Giants player wearing #32 looks exactly like the Juan Marichal on the Uniwatch ringer tee. Except Juan wore #27

    Right, very interesting! Especially since a few other recognisable players are shown with their correct numbers — even on the Giants poster we see the likeness of Bobby Bonds wearing his correct no. 25. Also correctly depicted is Tommie Agee (no. 20) on the Met poster.

    Another number-switcheroo seems to have been done on the A’s poster. That “no. 8” strongly resembles Reggie Jackson, who actually wore no. 9.

    It is interesting that the only clearly-drawn individual on any poster appears to be Luis Aparicio on the White Sox poster. Unfortunately, he was no longer with the club in 1971.[/quote]

    Wanna imagine Mickey Mantle as an Expo?

    Check out the surfer blonde left-handed hitter in Expos poster.

    –Ricko

  • chance | July 29, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”282339″]http://news.steelers.com/catalog/product/91379/

    The Steelers throwback jersey from last year is being sold as a “Third Jersey”. That, plus the fact they have worn the gold helmets in practice, makes me think they will be wearing the uniforms this year (and maybe future years?) for a couple games. Of course, this may be old news to all of you. But its news to me.

    Also, note the jersey can have “any name any number” but its for “Current Players Only”. I’m not sure what that means. Does that mean “Bradshaw 12” is not available or “anyname 12”? I guess they’re trying to protect their legacy, or something like that. Do all teams do this?[/quote]

    Pretty sure they do.

    The licensing deal only covers current players, not retired ones. Some retired players also have a deal, so you can order jerseys with their name and number on them, but not as a rule.

  • Hank | July 29, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    Tampa Storm’s uni looks like a bottle of Welch’s grape jelly exploded on it. Yeesh.

  • Hank | July 29, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?

  • Jet | July 29, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”282350″]

    Also, I’m pretty sure I have cereal box back with those hockey posters, too. A single player on white background with large team logo. Those the ones you remember?

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko – yes, the set from Wheaties. Even though I’m a New Yorker I had ordered the Western Division set of posters as a kid because I was a California Golden Seals fan and also liked the other Western Division teams.

    I no longer have the posters but somewhere I do have so old pics of me in my room with those posters on the wall

    -Jet

  • Hank | July 29, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    Didn’t find an explanation for the ring around the mound at Sportsman’s Park, but did find a nice collection of photos of the ballpark inlcuding player shots. http://www.baseball-...

  • Steve | July 29, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    Does anyone know why the Steelers changed their number font in the first place? That has perhaps been the biggest NFL uni mystery to me.

  • Perry | July 29, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”282333″]Maybe it’s because I don’t pay attention to baseball anymore, but in the pic of the mound ring, why are there three infielders on the first base side?

    http://farm4.static....

    Probably Ted Williams at bat in the ’46 Series — the Williams Shift.

  • Teebz | July 29, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I think they are certainly worthy of their own monument. I used to be like Lucius Fox of the recent Batman movies here on UniWatch – I worked in the hockey wing, and was one of a few dedicated staff members. ;o)

    However, I am nowhere near being close to the sultans of dress in Paul and Ricko.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”282363″][quote comment=”282350″]

    Also, I’m pretty sure I have cereal box back with those hockey posters, too. A single player on white background with large team logo. Those the ones you remember?

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko – yes, the set from Wheaties. Even though I’m a New Yorker I had ordered the Western Division set of posters as a kid because I was a California Golden Seals fan and also liked the other Western Division teams.

    I no longer have the posters but somewhere I do have so old pics of me in my room with those posters on the wall

    -Jet[/quote]

    I’ll look for that ceral box back that shows ’em all. Was one of my favorite series cuz of the simple, uncluttered imagery, which afforded a great look at the unis.

    Pretty sure it shows the all-gold Kings home unis, which I frickin’ loved cuz were so different from anything anyone else was wearing.

    (Time for s meeting. Oh-be-still-my-heart.)

    –Ricko

  • The Ol Goaler | July 29, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    For what it’s worth, the “mound ring” at Sportsman’s Park in St. Louis was NOT in evidence during the 1943 and 1944 World Series, according to the MLB films available on DVD, so perhaps it was a 1946-only feature.

    I do know there was NO “ring” around the mound in the early 1960s, when I first went to games at the ballpark… when Anheuser-Busch bought the Cardinals and the ballpark (which had been owned by the Browns! in 1953, the Lords of Baseball wouldn’t let Gussie Busch rename the park “Budweiser Stadium”. Calling it Busch Stadium was just fine, though! Given today’s “naming rights,” that decision seems awfully dated!

  • Wollen1 | July 29, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    I can’t believe I’m actually going to do this, but I must hand it to Nike for showing a rare bit of tact and understatedness in the new Oregon State jersey design. That being said, I’m sure there are plans in the works at Nike HQ to have the Oregon Ducks outfitted in green and gold diamond studded day-glow kevlar in the near future.

  • shadoquad | July 29, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    I wonder if Sean Jones ripped his game pants at the last minute before strolling out to practice. That’s a possibility. Maybe he did it on his way out in some embarassing area, then decided that taking off the spikes and pants would take more time and just threw on some loose shorts? I have no factual basis for that story, but it just seems like something I’d do (I’m incredibly lazy).

  • Jet | July 29, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”282368″]

    I’ll look for that ceral box back that shows ’em all. Was one of my favorite series cuz of the simple, uncluttered imagery, which afforded a great look at the unis.

    Pretty sure it shows the all-gold Kings home unis, which I frickin’ loved cuz were so different from anything anyone else was wearing.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ricko – what was so unique about the L.A. Kings back then is that they were the only team to wear home and road PANTS! Every other team retained the same color pants while only changing jerseys and socks, but the Kings had gold pants to go with the gold home jersey/socks, and purple pants (sorry, Paul) to go with the road purple jersey/socks! Waaaayyyyy cool….

    -Jet

  • Thomas | July 29, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    Campus Squeeze has created a list of the ugliest college football uniforms. You will never guess who is #1. It is also nice to see their shared hatred for the color purple.

  • Thomas | July 29, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    sorry forgot the link.

    http://www.campussqu...

  • Banker Bill | July 29, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I’d say Teebz – he is the hockey maven on here. And Minna H – because you have to have Minna SOMEWHERE.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”282375″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I’d say Teebz – he is the hockey maven on here. And Minna H – because you have to have Minna SOMEWHERE.[/quote]

    no love for redemske, ekdahl or grzegorek?

    and my vote goes to jeremy brahm, who is absolutely the go-to guy when it comes to absloutely useless shit about japanese baseball uniforms ;)

  • Roger Faso | July 29, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    When and why was the NY removed from the Mets logo?

  • Teebz | July 29, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”282376″][quote comment=”282375″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I’d say Teebz – he is the hockey maven on here. And Minna H – because you have to have Minna SOMEWHERE.[/quote]

    no love for redemske, ekdahl or grzegorek?

    and my vote goes to jeremy brahm, who is absolutely the go-to guy when it comes to absloutely useless shit about japanese baseball uniforms ;)[/quote]

    We can just erect statues in various cities and countries across the world. That might be easier. :o)

    However, I’m far from being the only hockey guy/gal on here now. I’d vote the big guys – Ek, Vinny, and Redemske – before I’d vote me in.

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”282374″]sorry forgot the link.

    http://www.campussqu...
    I think enough is enough with these best/worst lists because they’ve become trite and uncreative.

    Has the person that wrote this just been lurking on UW and stole all the anti-purple/anti-oregon/anti-nike propaganda posted here?!?!

    I love the comment too, reminding the person that yield signs are red!!!!

    Weak and sophmoric.

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    I’d vote the big guys – Ek, Vinny, and Redemske – before I’d vote me in.

    Redemske’s statue should have smeared eye black and be crying

  • Teebz | July 29, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”282380″]

    I’d vote the big guys – Ek, Vinny, and Redemske – before I’d vote me in.

    Redemske’s statue should have smeared eye black and be crying[/quote]

    If you don’t like reading his work, there is another option. ;o)

    However, he has kept the weekends rolling, and has contributed to many of Paul’s stories as well. He probably does more than we know, but we never hear about it.

    Give him a break, Kek. Complaining won’t get you anywhere, especially on the internet. ;o)

  • Daver | July 29, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”282365″]Does anyone know why the Steelers changed their number font in the first place? That has perhaps been the biggest NFL uni mystery to me.[/quote]

    Reason #1: They did it to match the number font on their helmet.
    http://www.hellopitt...
    But that doesn’t explain why the jersey font is slightly italicized.

    Reason #2 (based on memory): The jersey supplier, which I believe was a new supplier, wanted to modernize the uniform. They did that by adding the logo to the chest and changing the number font.

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”282381″][quote comment=”282380″]

    I’d vote the big guys – Ek, Vinny, and Redemske – before I’d vote me in.

    Redemske’s statue should have smeared eye black and be crying[/quote]

    If you don’t like reading his work, there is another option. ;o)

    However, he has kept the weekends rolling, and has contributed to many of Paul’s stories as well. He probably does more than we know, but we never hear about it.

    Give him a break, Kek. Complaining won’t get you anywhere, especially on the internet. ;o)[/quote]
    It was JUST A JOKE!!!

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”282381″][quote comment=”282380″]

    I’d vote the big guys – Ek, Vinny, and Redemske – before I’d vote me in.

    Redemske’s statue should have smeared eye black and be crying[/quote]

    If you don’t like reading his work, there is another option. ;o)

    However, he has kept the weekends rolling, and has contributed to many of Paul’s stories as well. He probably does more than we know, but we never hear about it.

    Give him a break, Kek. Complaining won’t get you anywhere, especially on the internet. ;o)[/quote]

    i think douggie was joking (i recognize his tongue in cheek anywhere)…

    and i would certainly nominate TEEBZ for a somewhat smaller statue, on the side of mt. uniwatch…

  • Joe D | July 29, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”282365″]Does anyone know why the Steelers changed their number font in the first place? That has perhaps been the biggest NFL uni mystery to me.[/quote]

    “In 1997, the team switched to rounded numbers on the jersey to match the number font (Futura Condensed) on the helmets, and a Steelers logo was added to the left side of the jersey.”

    I got that from the ever reliable source Wikipedia. If that is true, I don’t know why they didn’t switch the helmet font to match the jersey instead.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Steve | July 29, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”282382″][quote comment=”282365″]Does anyone know why the Steelers changed their number font in the first place? That has perhaps been the biggest NFL uni mystery to me.[/quote]

    Reason #1: They did it to match the number font on their helmet.
    http://www.hellopitt...
    But that doesn’t explain why the jersey font is slightly italicized.

    Reason #2 (based on memory): The jersey supplier, which I believe was a new supplier, wanted to modernize the uniform. They did that by adding the logo to the chest and changing the number font.[/quote]

    Thanks man….I appreciate it!!!

  • Teebz | July 29, 2008 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”282383″][quote comment=”282381″][quote comment=”282380″]

    I’d vote the big guys – Ek, Vinny, and Redemske – before I’d vote me in.

    Redemske’s statue should have smeared eye black and be crying[/quote]

    If you don’t like reading his work, there is another option. ;o)

    However, he has kept the weekends rolling, and has contributed to many of Paul’s stories as well. He probably does more than we know, but we never hear about it.

    Give him a break, Kek. Complaining won’t get you anywhere, especially on the internet. ;o)[/quote]
    It was JUST A JOKE!!![/quote]

    I got it… however, one cannot be certain without that vocal inflection, and I certainly cannot stand the people that pile on once a comment about BR is made.

    No ill will here, Kek! It’s all cool on the hockey front! :oP

  • Teebz | July 29, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”282384″]
    and i would certainly nominate TEEBZ for a somewhat smaller statue, on the side of mt. uniwatch…[/quote]

    Would that make me a pimple on one of these guys’ faces? ;o)

  • Jim | July 29, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”282384″][quote comment=”282381″][quote comment=”282380″]

    I’d vote the big guys – Ek, Vinny, and Redemske – before I’d vote me in.

    Redemske’s statue should have smeared eye black and be crying[/quote]

    If you don’t like reading his work, there is another option. ;o)

    However, he has kept the weekends rolling, and has contributed to many of Paul’s stories as well. He probably does more than we know, but we never hear about it.

    Give him a break, Kek. Complaining won’t get you anywhere, especially on the internet. ;o)[/quote]

    i think douggie was joking (i recognize his tongue in cheek anywhere)…

    and i would certainly nominate TEEBZ for a somewhat smaller statue, on the side of mt. uniwatch…[/quote]

    How about intead of people from uniwatch we nominate athletes who “get it”. This would be difficult because atheltes don’t pick the uni, but they can choose to wear it right.

  • Mark K | July 29, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”282309″]black & white pic of the grass circle @ sportsman’s park[/quote]

    Brought to you by Target?

  • chance | July 29, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”282385″][quote comment=”282365″]Does anyone know why the Steelers changed their number font in the first place? That has perhaps been the biggest NFL uni mystery to me.[/quote]

    “In 1997, the team switched to rounded numbers on the jersey to match the number font (Futura Condensed) on the helmets, and a Steelers logo was added to the left side of the jersey.”

    I got that from the ever reliable source Wikipedia. If that is true, I don’t know why they didn’t switch the helmet font to match the jersey instead.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    That would have made more sense.

    Especially since their new “matching” fonts don’t even match. Italic on the jersey, roman on the helmet.

  • rob | July 29, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    pretty cool video demonstrating the proper technique of wearing high socks

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”282384″][quote comment=”282381″][quote comment=”282380″]

    I’d vote the big guys – Ek, Vinny, and Redemske – before I’d vote me in.

    Redemske’s statue should have smeared eye black and be crying[/quote]

    If you don’t like reading his work, there is another option. ;o)

    However, he has kept the weekends rolling, and has contributed to many of Paul’s stories as well. He probably does more than we know, but we never hear about it.

    Give him a break, Kek. Complaining won’t get you anywhere, especially on the internet. ;o)[/quote]

    i think douggie was joking (i recognize his tongue in cheek anywhere)…

    and i would certainly nominate TEEBZ for a somewhat smaller statue, on the side of mt. uniwatch…[/quote]
    Thanks bro, you know I actually wrote “(LI Phil, help a brother out!)” but then I deleted it before I clicked “Say It!”. Nice to know someone is on the same wavelength.

    I only mentioned that eyeblack thing because that was one of the first Saturday explosions of Bryan’s work that I recall, that’s all. Truth be told, I agreed with Bryan on that point and really don’t see what the big deal is. The only time I recall getting annoyed with him is the Vai Sikahema thing.

    Relax Teebz, your comment sounds almost exactly like Paul’s on Sunday night. Yes, he does stuff for Paul we don’t see, yes he contributes to the site, yes he keeps things going on the weekend. I didn’t make a complaint per se, but I think this “quit complaining” thing is ridiculous. If someone has an opinion they have every right to post it in a comment.

  • Jim | July 29, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”282388″][quote comment=”282384″]
    and i would certainly nominate TEEBZ for a somewhat smaller statue, on the side of mt. uniwatch…[/quote]

    Would that make me a pimple on one of these guys’ faces? ;o)[/quote]

    You’d be the mold on Abe Lincoln’s face :)

  • chance | July 29, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”282377″]When and why was the NY removed from the Mets logo?[/quote]

    It was removed before the 1999 season.

    According to this really interesting column of the time, the Mets did it because they finally got tired of the “NY” not matching their cap logo, and decided rather than substitute they didn’t really need it anyway.

  • Jim | July 29, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”282394″][quote comment=”282388″][quote comment=”282384″]
    and i would certainly nominate TEEBZ for a somewhat smaller statue, on the side of mt. uniwatch…[/quote]

    Would that make me a pimple on one of these guys’ faces? ;o)[/quote]

    You’d be the mold on Abe Lincoln’s face :)[/quote]

    *mole

  • chance | July 29, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”282392″]pretty cool video demonstrating the proper technique of wearing high socks

    http://sports.espn.g...

    That’s great.

    And I can’t tell you how proud I am that a Brewer is showing us the way….

  • Teebz | July 29, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”282393″]
    Relax Teebz, your comment sounds almost exactly like Paul’s on Sunday night. Yes, he does stuff for Paul we don’t see, yes he contributes to the site, yes he keeps things going on the weekend. I didn’t make a complaint per se, but I think this “quit complaining” thing is ridiculous. If someone has an opinion they have every right to post it in a comment.[/quote]

    I fully agree, Kek, and am totally relaxed. :o)

    I’m not suggesting censorship of any kind regarding the free thoughts of anyone. All I was doing was trying to prevent to Bryan-haters from piling on like they do on the weekends, even when someone makes a comment in jest about Bryan.

    Your comments are totally cool with me, Kek. I find myself laughing at the majority of what is said on the comments here, and I wouldn’t want that to change for any reason whatsoever.

    Keep up the good work!

  • Daver | July 29, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    “all-gold Kings home unis, which I frickin’ loved cuz were so different from anything anyone else was wearing”

    Ricko, you are the Godfather of Uniwatch. Your knowledge/memory is unmatched, and your attitude is refreshing. Like most of us, you can like a uniform for no apparent reason other than its cool looking. You are a fan’s critic.

    Paul is great, too. But he is more professional and straight-lined (and formulaic) in his analyses.

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”282398″][quote comment=”282393″]
    Relax Teebz, your comment sounds almost exactly like Paul’s on Sunday night. Yes, he does stuff for Paul we don’t see, yes he contributes to the site, yes he keeps things going on the weekend. I didn’t make a complaint per se, but I think this “quit complaining” thing is ridiculous. If someone has an opinion they have every right to post it in a comment.[/quote]

    I fully agree, Kek, and am totally relaxed. :o)

    I’m not suggesting censorship of any kind regarding the free thoughts of anyone. All I was doing was trying to prevent to Bryan-haters from piling on like they do on the weekends, even when someone makes a comment in jest about Bryan.

    Your comments are totally cool with me, Kek. I find myself laughing at the majority of what is said on the comments here, and I wouldn’t want that to change for any reason whatsoever.

    Keep up the good work![/quote]
    That’s cool. I actually did have second thoughts after I posted because I didn’t want it to turn into a free-for-all, bash-Bryan-for-the-sake-of-bashing-Bryan thing. Although I’m sure a yellow box message from Paul would spring up telling everyone to cut the sh-t….

    You know what, I’ll say it right now (I guest-wrote an entry, doesn’t that make me a junior detective or something!!!)

    Let’s not turn this into a bash-Bryan fest. My comment was a simple joke.

    There, the first pre-emptive yellow box edict!!!

  • Banker Bill | July 29, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”282376″][quote comment=”282375″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I’d say Teebz – he is the hockey maven on here. And Minna H – because you have to have Minna SOMEWHERE.[/quote]

    no love for redemske, ekdahl or grzegorek?

    and my vote goes to jeremy brahm, who is absolutely the go-to guy when it comes to absloutely useless shit about japanese baseball uniforms ;)[/quote]

    You know – I was thinking that a Mt. Rushmore wouldn’t showcase enough -I think we need a Ring of Honor – of course the ring would actually be a stirrup stripe! Ek, Vince, Bryan, Ricko, all worthy.

  • Eriq Jaffe | July 29, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    The White Sox did a number of ethnic-themed promotions during Veeck’s second ownership tenure. I remember attending “Greek Night” at Comiskey, which featured traditional Greek dancers before the game. I don’ think the Sox wore fisherman’s hats, though.

  • Morgan Doninger | July 29, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    So my twenty month old is starting to identify his colors, and he’s only got one down: Purple. Sometimes he will call all colors “purple”. Does this cost me my Uniwatch membership?

  • Bando Calrissian | July 29, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    Could you please, please, please stop referring to Michigan as “UMich?” There is absolutely no one on earth who refers to Michigan as “UMich.” Yes, it’s the domain name for the University email system, but that doesn’t mean that it’s what we call ourselves.

  • Banker Bill | July 29, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”282403″]So my twenty month old is starting to identify his colors, and he’s only got one down: Purple. Sometimes he will call all colors “purple”. Does this cost me my Uniwatch membership?[/quote]

    No. We do not hold the father accountable for the sins of the son/daughter – and besides, he/she hasn’t said “Nike” yet.

  • Banker Bill | July 29, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”282405″][quote comment=”282403″]So my twenty month old is starting to identify his colors, and he’s only got one down: Purple. Sometimes he will call all colors “purple”. Does this cost me my Uniwatch membership?[/quote]

    No. We do not hold the father accountable for the sins of the son/daughter – and besides, he/she hasn’t said “Nike” yet.[/quote]

    Sorry – didn’t see the “he” in there before.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”282388″][quote comment=”282384″]
    and i would certainly nominate TEEBZ for a somewhat smaller statue, on the side of mt. uniwatch…[/quote]

    Would that make me a pimple on one of these guys’ faces? ;o)[/quote]

    not on their faces ;)

  • WIgopher | July 29, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    Hey, so I read every day, but never post. I’m hoping someone can help me…Paul’s written and linked to quite a bit of those pin up girl pictures…do any of you know the website for the artist? I’m drawing a blank and can’t find the entry that had all the info in it. Thanks.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”282408″]Hey, so I read every day, but never post. I’m hoping someone can help me…Paul’s written and linked to quite a bit of those pin up girl pictures…do any of you know the website for the artist? I’m drawing a blank and can’t find the entry that had all the info in it. Thanks.[/quote]

    i think that’s rob ullman…but i don’t know his contact info…you should e-mail paul:

    uniwatch(at)earthlink.net

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”282409″][quote comment=”282408″]Hey, so I read every day, but never post. I’m hoping someone can help me…Paul’s written and linked to quite a bit of those pin up girl pictures…do any of you know the website for the artist? I’m drawing a blank and can’t find the entry that had all the info in it. Thanks.[/quote]

    i think that’s rob ullman…but i don’t know his contact info…you should e-mail paul:

    uniwatch(at)earthlink.net[/quote]

    here’s the UW profile paul did on rob on 2/28/08

  • WIgopher | July 29, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    Thanks Ll Phil. Not looking for contact info yet…I have a friend who I mentioned this to who wants to do something like this for his wife for their anniversary…I was just hoping to start by showing him pics.

  • James Craven | July 29, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    Couple items about the comments.

    First, the Phillies poster also served as the team’s 1971 program cover IIRC, because it was the first year in the concrete UFO called The Vet.

    Second, on College Juice’s 11 Worst Football Unis:

    1. The BYU picture was from about five years ago, so that isn’t the current uni (think LaVelle Edwards).

    2. Southern Cal has worn gold pants fore boo-koo years, so why they shitting on Iowa State… Oh, wait a minute there. They had that fake poll on the helmet design last year!

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    totally random awesome old baseball pic

    entitled, Manhattan Farewell, 1963, Hammerin’ Hank Aaron digs in at the Polo Grounds, in one of the last major league baseball games played in Manhattan. One of only four players to ever hit a ball into the centre-field stands at the Grounds, Aaron of the Milwaukee Braves was captured in the lens of SPORT magazine photographer Martin Blumenthal in this classic shot, along with New York Mets catcher Jesse Gonder and umpire Tony Venzon, from September 1963.

  • Teebz | July 29, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”282407″][quote comment=”282388″][quote comment=”282384″]
    and i would certainly nominate TEEBZ for a somewhat smaller statue, on the side of mt. uniwatch…[/quote]

    Would that make me a pimple on one of these guys’ faces? ;o)[/quote]

    not on their faces ;)[/quote]

    Atta boy, Phil. Can I just keep this replacement keyboard I owe you for myself? Too funny.

  • Roger Faso | July 29, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”282395″][quote comment=”282377″]When and why was the NY removed from the Mets logo?[/quote]

    It was removed before the 1999 season.

    According to this really interesting column of the time, the Mets did it because they finally got tired of the “NY” not matching their cap logo, and decided rather than substitute they didn’t really need it anyway.[/quote]

    perfect.

    thanks.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”282367″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I think they are certainly worthy of their own monument. I used to be like Lucius Fox of the recent Batman movies here on UniWatch – I worked in the hockey wing, and was one of a few dedicated staff members. ;o)

    However, I am nowhere near being close to the sultans of dress in Paul and Ricko.[/quote]

    Nahh, Paul’s the guy. Believe me, he is.

    I’m just an old dude with a lotta old crap…largely because I’m an old dude.

    Besides, my face already has been left outdoors in more than enough Midwestern winters.

    –Ricko

  • dwight | July 29, 2008 at 2:50 pm |

    No comments in here of the best uni-improvement of 2008 so far, Oregon State losing the “bras” (according to Paul)? I think they might look really good now, as long as there is no orange top/black pant combo

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”282417″]No comments in here of the best uni-improvement of 2008 so far, Oregon State losing the “bras” (according to Paul)? I think they might look really good now, as long as there is no orange top/black pant combo[/quote]
    um, check 22, 24, 39 and 40…. LI Phil and I like them.

  • Christopher | July 29, 2008 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”282416″][quote comment=”282367″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I think they are certainly worthy of their own monument. I used to be like Lucius Fox of the recent Batman movies here on UniWatch – I worked in the hockey wing, and was one of a few dedicated staff members. ;o)

    However, I am nowhere near being close to the sultans of dress in Paul and Ricko.[/quote]

    Nahh, Paul’s the guy. Believe me, he is.

    I’m just an old dude with a lotta old crap…largely because I’m an old dude.

    Besides, my face already has been left outdoors in more than enough Midwestern winters.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    We still dig you! Keep the goods coming!

  • Jim | July 29, 2008 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”282419″][quote comment=”282416″][quote comment=”282367″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I think they are certainly worthy of their own monument. I used to be like Lucius Fox of the recent Batman movies here on UniWatch – I worked in the hockey wing, and was one of a few dedicated staff members. ;o)

    However, I am nowhere near being close to the sultans of dress in Paul and Ricko.[/quote]

    Nahh, Paul’s the guy. Believe me, he is.

    I’m just an old dude with a lotta old crap…largely because I’m an old dude.

    Besides, my face already has been left outdoors in more than enough Midwestern winters.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    We still dig you! Keep the goods coming![/quote]

    Wouldn’t hurt to have some old hockey stuff Ricko… :)

  • Perry | July 29, 2008 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”282404″]Could you please, please, please stop referring to Michigan as “UMich?” There is absolutely no one on earth who refers to Michigan as “UMich.” Yes, it’s the domain name for the University email system, but that doesn’t mean that it’s what we call ourselves.[/quote]

    And while we’re at it, calling Ohio State “tOSU” isn’t exactly cutting-edge humor any more either. (Although Michigan people should use it, since it’s nicer than anything else they might call us.)

  • MikeyB | July 29, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    Those new Oregon State jerseys are so…boring. There’s gotta be a catch to it.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”282420″][quote comment=”282419″][quote comment=”282416″][quote comment=”282367″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I think they are certainly worthy of their own monument. I used to be like Lucius Fox of the recent Batman movies here on UniWatch – I worked in the hockey wing, and was one of a few dedicated staff members. ;o)

    However, I am nowhere near being close to the sultans of dress in Paul and Ricko.[/quote]

    Nahh, Paul’s the guy. Believe me, he is.

    I’m just an old dude with a lotta old crap…largely because I’m an old dude.

    Besides, my face already has been left outdoors in more than enough Midwestern winters.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    We still dig you! Keep the goods coming![/quote]

    Wouldn’t hurt to have some old hockey stuff Ricko… :)[/quote]

    Told Paul upfront that most of my stuff is baseball and football…but I do have some odds and ends around.

    Anyone here into WHA stuff?

    Got lotsa that. Was WHA’s assistant PR Director from before first-ever league meeting til midway in second season. Edited a weekly tabloid, called THE HOCKEY SPECTATOR, about the WHA. Lasted about a year and a half (all of ’72-’73 through mid ’73-’74). Added NHL coverage that second season. As far as I know, I have the only complete set of every issue. Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto said they’d love to have it, but think I’ll hang onto it a while longer.

    One thing sure, has lotsa big B&W photos of WHA unis never seen anywhere else. We ran photos much larger than Hockey News did cuz we were league subsidized (while it lasted), and had virtually no ads.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Did the painting of Danny Lawson shown near the center here, too.

    Not bragging, just letting you know where I can be a decent source.

    –Ricko

  • Juan Grande | July 29, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”282421″][quote comment=”282404″]Could you please, please, please stop referring to Michigan as “UMich?” There is absolutely no one on earth who refers to Michigan as “UMich.” Yes, it’s the domain name for the University email system, but that doesn’t mean that it’s what we call ourselves.[/quote]

    And while we’re at it, calling Ohio State “tOSU” isn’t exactly cutting-edge humor any more either. (Although Michigan people should use it, since it’s nicer than anything else they might call us.)[/quote]

    Umich is better than “That D-I school that lost to Appalachian State!”

  • Bopper | July 29, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”282404″]Could you please, please, please stop referring to Michigan as “UMich?” There is absolutely no one on earth who refers to Michigan as “UMich.” Yes, it’s the domain name for the University email system, but that doesn’t mean that it’s what we call ourselves.[/quote]

    The Airport in Detroit is called Detroit Meto-Wayne County Airport, that doesnt stop you guys form just calling it Detroit Metro…

  • Jim | July 29, 2008 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”282423″][quote comment=”282420″][quote comment=”282419″][quote comment=”282416″][quote comment=”282367″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I think they are certainly worthy of their own monument. I used to be like Lucius Fox of the recent Batman movies here on UniWatch – I worked in the hockey wing, and was one of a few dedicated staff members. ;o)

    However, I am nowhere near being close to the sultans of dress in Paul and Ricko.[/quote]

    Nahh, Paul’s the guy. Believe me, he is.

    I’m just an old dude with a lotta old crap…largely because I’m an old dude.

    Besides, my face already has been left outdoors in more than enough Midwestern winters.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    We still dig you! Keep the goods coming![/quote]

    Wouldn’t hurt to have some old hockey stuff Ricko… :)[/quote]

    Told Paul upfront that most of my stuff is baseball and football…but I do have some odds and ends around.

    Anyone here into WHA stuff?

    Got lotsa that. Was WHA’s assistant PR Director from before first-ever league meeting til midway in second season. Edited a weekly tabloid, called THE HOCKEY SPECTATOR, about the WHA. Lasted about a year and a half (all of ’72-’73 through mid ’73-’74). Added NHL coverage that second season. As far as I know, I have the only complete set of every issue. Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto said they’d love to have it, but think I’ll hang onto it a while longer.

    One thing sure, has lotsa big B&W photos of WHA unis never seen anywhere else. We ran photos much larger than Hockey News did cuz we were league subsidized (while it lasted), and had virtually no ads.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Did the painting of Danny Lawson shown near the center here, too.

    Not bragging, just letting you know where I can be a decent source.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Wow, I was just pulling your chain because I am a huge hockey fan, but looks like you have the WHA covered!!

  • lwiedy | July 29, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”282412″]The Phillies poster also served as the team’s 1971 program cover IIRC, because it was the first year in the concrete UFO called The Vet.[/quote]

    The Brewers also used theirs for a progam cover. I still have the Royals poster. Got the orginial back in ’71 from the Wheaties box and trashed it. Found another copy in 1986 in a souvenir shop in Cooperstown.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 4:02 pm |

    check this shit out!

    (and is that leather???)

    bonus points to the first person to id the pitcher (heh…he signed it, but it’s hard to read…)

  • JF in DC | July 29, 2008 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”282427″][quote comment=”282412″]The Brewers also used theirs for a progam cover. I still have the Royals poster. Got the orginial back in ’71 from the Wheaties box and trashed it. Found another copy in 1986 in a souvenir shop in Cooperstown.[/quote]
    Correct: FR Woods on Main St. in Cooperstown still has some of the 1971 baseball posters for sale. I was up there just a couple of weeks ago and I saw them on the back wall. No web site but call them at 607-547-2161.

    It’s a great store, and when I first starting going to Cooperstown in the late ’60s, it was the ONLY baseball store in Cooperstown. I use to buy a felt team hat every time I visited (and they still have a few of them left!)

  • lwiedy | July 29, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    http://farm4.static....
    I know the publish date on the TSN is 1973, but I believe the shot is from 1972, the Angels first year in knits. I have a shot of Ryan’s no-no vs. KC in May of ’73 and the waistbands are the standard size. Maybe from spring training ’73, but not the regular season.

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    ryan ’72 card

    god i love topps (and wish i still had this card) :(

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 4:42 pm |

    lets try that again…

    nolan ryan 72 topps

  • Proud Canuck | July 29, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    Check out the unveiling of the new Bayern Munich unis. I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time.

    http://deadspin.com/...

  • Dan | July 29, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”282418″][quote comment=”282417″]No comments in here of the best uni-improvement of 2008 so far, Oregon State losing the “bras” (according to Paul)? I think they might look really good now, as long as there is no orange top/black pant combo[/quote]
    um, check 22, 24, 39 and 40…. LI Phil and I like them.[/quote]

    Kek…

    That orange top/black pants combo is the lone bright spot in the Oregon State uniforms. Actually gave the Beavers some depth in their dress. Now that the sports bras are gone, these jerseys are not that bad. I was hoping that the helmet logo would switch to the new “OS” logo.

  • tmonk | July 29, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”282423″][quote comment=”282420″][quote comment=”282419″][quote comment=”282416″][quote comment=”282367″][quote comment=”282362″]Ricko deserves a spot on the Mount Rushmore of Uniwatch. Right next to Paul. Any other deserving members?[/quote]

    I think they are certainly worthy of their own monument. I used to be like Lucius Fox of the recent Batman movies here on UniWatch – I worked in the hockey wing, and was one of a few dedicated staff members. ;o)

    However, I am nowhere near being close to the sultans of dress in Paul and Ricko.[/quote]

    Nahh, Paul’s the guy. Believe me, he is.

    I’m just an old dude with a lotta old crap…largely because I’m an old dude.

    Besides, my face already has been left outdoors in more than enough Midwestern winters.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    We still dig you! Keep the goods coming![/quote]

    Wouldn’t hurt to have some old hockey stuff Ricko… :)[/quote]

    Told Paul upfront that most of my stuff is baseball and football…but I do have some odds and ends around.

    Anyone here into WHA stuff?

    Got lotsa that. Was WHA’s assistant PR Director from before first-ever league meeting til midway in second season. Edited a weekly tabloid, called THE HOCKEY SPECTATOR, about the WHA. Lasted about a year and a half (all of ’72-’73 through mid ’73-’74). Added NHL coverage that second season. As far as I know, I have the only complete set of every issue. Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto said they’d love to have it, but think I’ll hang onto it a while longer.

    One thing sure, has lotsa big B&W photos of WHA unis never seen anywhere else. We ran photos much larger than Hockey News did cuz we were league subsidized (while it lasted), and had virtually no ads.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Did the painting of Danny Lawson shown near the center here, too.

    Not bragging, just letting you know where I can be a decent source.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    This is awesome! My friend, Poul Popiel, played for the Houston Aeros and I would like to see what photos and stuff you might have of him.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”282430″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2711381356_d9d49a4641_b.jpg
    I know the publish date on the TSN is 1973, but I believe the shot is from 1972, the Angels first year in knits. I have a shot of Ryan’s no-no vs. KC in May of ’73 and the waistbands are the standard size. Maybe from spring training ’73, but not the regular season.[/quote]

    Yup, it’s pretty early in the season, so was either from spring training or the season before…cuz just checked Topps. Lotsa low number ’74s with normal waistband and navy edge on road numbers.

    Looks like the narrow waistband was a two-year deal, ’71 and ’72, arriving with the lower case logo “a”. Black shoes on shots from ’73, so white shoes would have been ’74 (F.Robinson was there in ’73 and’74, and have photos of him in white shoes).

  • Kek | July 29, 2008 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”282434″][quote comment=”282418″][quote comment=”282417″]No comments in here of the best uni-improvement of 2008 so far, Oregon State losing the “bras” (according to Paul)? I think they might look really good now, as long as there is no orange top/black pant combo[/quote]
    um, check 22, 24, 39 and 40…. LI Phil and I like them.[/quote]

    Kek…

    That orange top/black pants combo is the lone bright spot in the Oregon State uniforms. Actually gave the Beavers some depth in their dress. Now that the sports bras are gone, these jerseys are not that bad. I was hoping that the helmet logo would switch to the new “OS” logo.[/quote]
    That was Dwight’s original comment (#119) My earlier comments might not have been that clear. I’m not against an orange pants/black jersey, just don’t want to see all orange.

  • Anthony | July 29, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”282428″]check this shit out!

    (and is that leather???)

    bonus points to the first person to id the pitcher (heh…he signed it, but it’s hard to read…)[/quote]

    ah well…nobody played along

    it’s hal newhouser

    —-

    still a very cool pic

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | July 29, 2008 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”282350″][quote comment=”282343″][quote comment=”282340″]Ricko is a legend! This guy deserves the title of Original UniWatcher or something. It takes dedication (or obsession) to pay this much attention back in the day. For this, I say thanks.[/quote]

    AMEN! I second the motion!!!

    RE: Those MLB posters….I had the similar set of hockey posters from around the same time, but don’t recall these baseball ones.

    I think if I had the Royals one I’d be frightened as a little kid of the pitcher with the bugged-out eyes!

    And on the Expos poster – what exactly is the largest player in the center of the poster supposed to be doing?!?!?

    -Jet[/quote]

    First baseman, after long stretch. That artist used a lot of existing art for reference, and not sticking to same team. Two of the images in Giants poster are Mays. If memory serves (and it still does more times than not) the photo he used there was of Willie McCovey. I may even have it in my Giants file. Dunno.

    Thanks for the props, everyone. Nice to know someone else appreciates the things I do. Glad those socks got claimed.

    Also, I’m pretty sure I have cereal box back with those hockey posters, too. A single player on white background with large team logo. Those the ones you remember?

    –Ricko[/quote]

    I’ve got one of these framed and still on the wall in my old bedroom at my parents’ place:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 5:25 pm |

    hmmmm….

    perhaps no one could view the pic, since i put a ‘bad’ word in it…

    here’s that pic one last time, of hal newhouser, wearing what appears to be a leather jacket of some type

    hal newhouser

  • Kate | July 29, 2008 at 5:30 pm |

    Rockies third baseman Ian Stewart appears to have an upside down M for the W in his name on his jersey. It’s quite different from the W on Troy Tulowitzki’s jersey.

  • lwiedy | July 29, 2008 at 5:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”282436″][quote comment=”282430″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2711381356_d9d49a4641_b.jpg
    I know the publish date on the TSN is 1973, but I believe the shot is from 1972, the Angels first year in knits. I have a shot of Ryan’s no-no vs. KC in May of ’73 and the waistbands are the standard size. Maybe from spring training ’73, but not the regular season.[/quote]

    Yup, it’s pretty early in the season, so was either from spring training or the season before…cuz just checked Topps. Lotsa low number ’74s with normal waistband and navy edge on road numbers.

    Looks like the narrow waistband was a two-year deal, ’71 and ’72, arriving with the lower case logo “a”. Black shoes on shots from ’73, so white shoes would have been ’74 (F.Robinson was there in ’73 and’74, and have photos of him in white shoes).[/quote]

    1971 they were still wearing belts. Ricko, you referred to “low number ’74’s”, but 1973 was the last year Topps was issued in series. 1974 cards were issued at the same time so all photos were from 1973 or earlier.

    That was a cool feature of the pre-1974’s hi #’s, trade updates and in some cases up to the year uni-updates!

  • who cares | July 29, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

    I was reading about Muntari’s signing with InterMilan and found this picture. The number font is pretty unique. Here’s a look at how they do Figo’s number 7.

    http://www.jerseyida...

  • SoCalPVguy | July 29, 2008 at 7:10 pm |

    Check out these great black stirrups with red/white stripes from our Palos Verdes “Sea Kings” (Palos Verdes Estates, CA) High School.

    Link: http://pvnews.mycapt...

  • Chris WDE | July 29, 2008 at 7:13 pm |

    Arkansas to get new “Tight” Uni’s

    http://nwanews.com/b...

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | July 29, 2008 at 7:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”282417″]No comments in here of the best uni-improvement of 2008 so far, Oregon State losing the “bras” (according to Paul)? I think they might look really good now, as long as there is no orange top/black pant combo[/quote]

    TELL ME ABOUT IT. They are a bit conservative being a Nike design but I like it! Any word if the pants and socks have a new design? I also would like to see a orange and black combo.

  • Terence | July 29, 2008 at 7:22 pm |

    I saw the Philly, Mets hater posts and thought you might get a kick outta this:


  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 7:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”282443″][quote comment=”282436″][quote comment=”282430″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2711381356_d9d49a4641_b.jpg
    I know the publish date on the TSN is 1973, but I believe the shot is from 1972, the Angels first year in knits. I have a shot of Ryan’s no-no vs. KC in May of ’73 and the waistbands are the standard size. Maybe from spring training ’73, but not the regular season.[/quote]

    Yup, it’s pretty early in the season, so was either from spring training or the season before…cuz just checked Topps. Lotsa low number ’74s with normal waistband and navy edge on road numbers.

    Looks like the narrow waistband was a two-year deal, ’71 and ’72, arriving with the lower case logo “a”. Black shoes on shots from ’73, so white shoes would have been ’74 (F.Robinson was there in ’73 and’74, and have photos of him in white shoes).[/quote]

    1971 they were still wearing belts. Ricko, you referred to “low number ’74’s”, but 1973 was the last year Topps was issued in series. 1974 cards were issued at the same time so all photos were from 1973 or earlier.

    That was a cool feature of the pre-1974’s hi #’s, trade updates and in some cases up to the year uni-updates![/quote]

    Wasn’t sure about the belts, but knew lower case “a” came around in ’71. So I guess the skinny waistbands were a ONE-year wonder. Not surprising, can’t imagine they worked very well.

    Thanks for info on Topps issuance. In this case, makes the point either way—if card # irrelevant—cuz are evidence of wider waistband and black shoes for ’73.

    Used to love those late series with new guys and/or uni changes and, later, the Traded cards.

    –Ricko

  • Mike Engle | July 29, 2008 at 7:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”282446″]Check out these great black stirrups with red/white stripes from our Palos Verdes “Sea Kings” (Palos Verdes Estates, CA) High School.

    Link: http://pvnews.mycapt...
    Is that the old Reggie Theus “Kings” wordmark resurfacing on a high school baseball uniform? It’s well done. I like it.

  • Dan E | July 29, 2008 at 7:44 pm |

    Pretty sure that “Salute to Mexico” promotion at Comiskey was part of the same event that featured Minnie Minoso in full bullfighter garb duking it out before the game with a guy in a bull suit…

  • Jasonwho | July 29, 2008 at 8:19 pm |

    Did anyone notice Prince Fielder’s missing sleeve patch on the Brewers’ navy blue jersey last night? The MLB logo on the back was there, but no sleeve patch.

  • lwiedy | July 29, 2008 at 8:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”282450″][quote comment=”282443″][quote comment=”282436″][quote comment=”282430″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2711381356_d9d49a4641_b.jpg
    I know the publish date on the TSN is 1973, but I believe the shot is from 1972, the Angels first year in knits. I have a shot of Ryan’s no-no vs. KC in May of ’73 and the waistbands are the standard size. Maybe from spring training ’73, but not the regular season.[/quote]

    Yup, it’s pretty early in the season, so was either from spring training or the season before…cuz just checked Topps. Lotsa low number ’74s with normal waistband and navy edge on road numbers.

    Looks like the narrow waistband was a two-year deal, ’71 and ’72, arriving with the lower case logo “a”. Black shoes on shots from ’73, so white shoes would have been ’74 (F.Robinson was there in ’73 and’74, and have photos of him in white shoes).[/quote]

    1971 they were still wearing belts. Ricko, you referred to “low number ’74’s”, but 1973 was the last year Topps was issued in series. 1974 cards were issued at the same time so all photos were from 1973 or earlier.

    That was a cool feature of the pre-1974’s hi #’s, trade updates and in some cases up to the year uni-updates![/quote]

    Wasn’t sure about the belts, but knew lower case “a” came around in ’71. So I guess the skinny waistbands were a ONE-year wonder. Not surprising, can’t imagine they worked very well.

    Thanks for info on Topps issuance. In this case, makes the point either way—if card # irrelevant—cuz are evidence of wider waistband and black shoes for ’73.

    Used to love those late series with new guys and/or uni changes and, later, the Traded cards.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    I was waiting to forward this to Paul with a couple of other things, but with the subject up, here goes:
    http://i256.photobuc...
    This is a wild little postcard issued by the HOF from thier displays. The cool thing is the range of years that are represented: ’71 A’s, ’71 Angels, ’69-’70 (sorry Ricko ;-) ) White Sox, ’71 Twins & ’72 Rangers. So the display has to be sometime during 1972 but several had not been updated in a couple of years.

    I will forward the other postcard and a great 1969 cap display to Paul and maybe he can put them in the ticker soon.

  • Johnny O | July 29, 2008 at 8:51 pm |

    If anyone is watching the Brewers/Cubs game, the umpire just cleaned home plate with his foot. I think I remember Paul wanting us to document this. Ray Durham was batting in the bottom of the 3rd with 1 out, and I believe the count was 3-2. Durhamn just foul tipped a ball into his leg and was hobbling a little bit. While he was hobbling, the umpire cleaned the plate off with his foot.

    Hope this helps…

  • LI Phil | July 29, 2008 at 9:36 pm |

    [quote]So…all you guys who have 36-38 waist and (for ankle length) 33-34 inseam (are you listening, Matt?) should start being really, really nice to me. There are about 60 pair of pants here (many 70s styles, including a pair of Taco Padres), and a like number of stirrups (at least). LOL[/quote]

    wow, mr. pearson, sir

    thanks for the offers…but, alas, im a 32″ waist with a 32-33 inseam…so no good for me…but that’s a schweet offer i hope someone can take you up on

    (man…those padre tacos sound mint, too…they’d go GREAT on my club course)

    …so…i guess i don’t have to be nice to ya tho :o)

    (btw…matt is like 5’8″ in heels, so i’d guess his inseam is more like 28″…LOL)

    ….

    anyway, keep up the good work, mr. pearson, and thanks for the generosity

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”282455″][quote comment=”282450″][quote comment=”282443″][quote comment=”282436″][quote comment=”282430″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2711381356_d9d49a4641_b.jpg
    I know the publish date on the TSN is 1973, but I believe the shot is from 1972, the Angels first year in knits. I have a shot of Ryan’s no-no vs. KC in May of ’73 and the waistbands are the standard size. Maybe from spring training ’73, but not the regular season.[/quote]

    Yup, it’s pretty early in the season, so was either from spring training or the season before…cuz just checked Topps. Lotsa low number ’74s with normal waistband and navy edge on road numbers.

    Looks like the narrow waistband was a two-year deal, ’71 and ’72, arriving with the lower case logo “a”. Black shoes on shots from ’73, so white shoes would have been ’74 (F.Robinson was there in ’73 and’74, and have photos of him in white shoes).[/quote]

    1971 they were still wearing belts. Ricko, you referred to “low number ’74’s”, but 1973 was the last year Topps was issued in series. 1974 cards were issued at the same time so all photos were from 1973 or earlier.

    That was a cool feature of the pre-1974’s hi #’s, trade updates and in some cases up to the year uni-updates![/quote]

    Wasn’t sure about the belts, but knew lower case “a” came around in ’71. So I guess the skinny waistbands were a ONE-year wonder. Not surprising, can’t imagine they worked very well.

    Thanks for info on Topps issuance. In this case, makes the point either way—if card # irrelevant—cuz are evidence of wider waistband and black shoes for ’73.

    Used to love those late series with new guys and/or uni changes and, later, the Traded cards.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    I was waiting to forward this to Paul with a couple of other things, but with the subject up, here goes:
    http://i256.photobuc...
    This is a wild little postcard issued by the HOF from thier displays. The cool thing is the range of years that are represented: ’71 A’s, ’71 Angels, ’69-’70 (sorry Ricko ;-) ) White Sox, ’71 Twins & ’72 Rangers. So the display has to be sometime during 1972 but several had not been updated in a couple of years.

    I will forward the other postcard and a great 1969 cap display to Paul and maybe he can put them in the ticker soon.[/quote]

    Well (laughing) for what it’s worth, the A’s had gold visor and button in 1971.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Kinda frustrating when even HOF doesn’t get it right, isn’t it.

    —Ricko

  • lwiedy | July 29, 2008 at 10:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”282459″][quote comment=”282455″][quote comment=”282450″][quote comment=”282443″][quote comment=”282436″][quote comment=”282430″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2711381356_d9d49a4641_b.jpg
    I know the publish date on the TSN is 1973, but I believe the shot is from 1972, the Angels first year in knits. I have a shot of Ryan’s no-no vs. KC in May of ’73 and the waistbands are the standard size. Maybe from spring training ’73, but not the regular season.[/quote]

    Yup, it’s pretty early in the season, so was either from spring training or the season before…cuz just checked Topps. Lotsa low number ’74s with normal waistband and navy edge on road numbers.

    Looks like the narrow waistband was a two-year deal, ’71 and ’72, arriving with the lower case logo “a”. Black shoes on shots from ’73, so white shoes would have been ’74 (F.Robinson was there in ’73 and’74, and have photos of him in white shoes).[/quote]

    1971 they were still wearing belts. Ricko, you referred to “low number ’74’s”, but 1973 was the last year Topps was issued in series. 1974 cards were issued at the same time so all photos were from 1973 or earlier.

    That was a cool feature of the pre-1974’s hi #’s, trade updates and in some cases up to the year uni-updates![/quote]

    Wasn’t sure about the belts, but knew lower case “a” came around in ’71. So I guess the skinny waistbands were a ONE-year wonder. Not surprising, can’t imagine they worked very well.

    Thanks for info on Topps issuance. In this case, makes the point either way—if card # irrelevant—cuz are evidence of wider waistband and black shoes for ’73.

    Used to love those late series with new guys and/or uni changes and, later, the Traded cards.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    I was waiting to forward this to Paul with a couple of other things, but with the subject up, here goes:
    http://i256.photobuc...
    This is a wild little postcard issued by the HOF from thier displays. The cool thing is the range of years that are represented: ’71 A’s, ’71 Angels, ’69-’70 (sorry Ricko ;-) ) White Sox, ’71 Twins & ’72 Rangers. So the display has to be sometime during 1972 but several had not been updated in a couple of years.

    I will forward the other postcard and a great 1969 cap display to Paul and maybe he can put them in the ticker soon.[/quote]

    Well (laughing) for what it’s worth, the A’s had gold visor and button in 1971.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Kinda frustrating when even HOF doesn’t get it right, isn’t it.

    —Ricko[/quote]

    I don’t know if you caught my joke. It was me crediting the royal blue White Sox to 1969 AND 1970 ;-)

    Anyhow, those were simpler times, probably not a great urgency to “get it right”. Besides, it makes for better UW conversation 35+ years later!

  • Justin | July 29, 2008 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”282447″]Arkansas to get new “Tight” Uni’s

    http://nwanews.com/b...

    Good. I hated the way we looked just like Oklahoma. Texas has the same style. It’s so… generic looking. The only way I could tell a difference is the Razorback on our helmets. The stripes on the pants are similar, too.
    I say, good move for Arkansas.

  • Robert | July 29, 2008 at 10:45 pm |

    The Astros’ NASA patch tonight is HUGE.

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 10:58 pm |

    Well, we saw Dizzy as a Brown today, how ’bout as a Cub, fully-vested even?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Of course, the seller doesn’t know who it is or what team…

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 11:00 pm |

    Is it just me or is the lettering on this kinda…goofy?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Ricko | July 29, 2008 at 11:02 pm |

    If u loved Minnie Minoso…

    Too small for me, but a great shirt.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Mike Engle | July 29, 2008 at 11:13 pm |
  • Husul | July 29, 2008 at 11:56 pm |

    On the Stern show today, Fred Norris corrected someone by saying Muhammad Ali never had a mustache :

    http://www.bendellka...

    http://us.st12.yimg....

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • tmonk | July 30, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    Hey Ricko, Those are my specs exactly! BTW, I really enjoyed your illustrations of the football unis featured in the Ricko Files the other day.

  • AFLFAN | July 30, 2008 at 10:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”282313″]Scroll down to the bottom of this link for the Denver Dynamite’s 1991 Zubaz uni

    http://www.klaus2.co...

    Also, there’s an excellent You Tube of 1991 Arena Football Highlights, I can’t ID all the teams but can tell you that the TB Storm, Orlando Predators (playing in the o-rena), and the Detroit Drive (in ‘regular’ light blue with white helmets) are in there.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    From my memory, this video, and other sources, here are the 1991 Arena Football teams that did and did not wear the Zubaz.

    Zubaz:
    Tampa Bay Storm
    Orlando Predators
    New Orleans Night
    Albany Firebirds
    Denver Dynamite

    Did not:
    Detroit Drive
    (2 unidentifable from video)[/quote]

    The team with the thunderbolt helmet was either the Cleveland or Columbus Thunderbolts. If it was 1991 then it was Columbus. The Dallas Texans were the other team. Neither of these teams wore zubaz.

  • Josh G. | July 30, 2008 at 11:19 pm |

    Anyone else notice that the picture of the “current” font style

    (http://www.thepetiti...)

    on the Steelers number petition page isn’t actually the current font? In fact, I don’t believe it’s one they ever used at all. The 6 in that picture curves all the way around and down at the top, while the one in the actual font stays diagonal.

    (http://ecx.images-am...)

    Reminds me of the fake jerseys on eBay with the laughably obvious flaws (Dolphins 40th anniversary logo patches with clock hands, anyone?) (sorry, couldn’t find a picture).