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Uni Watch Book Club: The First 50 Years

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Several readers have spoken highly of this 1969 book, which chronicles the first half-century of the NFL, so I tracked down a copy. Sure enough, tons of great stuff. Here are some highlights:

• First and foremost, there’s a section devoted to the evolution of the uniform, featuring a kickass series of illustrations showing what was worn by the 1920 Decatur Staleys, the 1921 Packers, the 1926 Duluth Eskimos (my favorite of the bunch), the 1948 Rams, and so on. There are some major surprises here — did you know, for example, that the Giants once dressed like this? Or that the Bears, for one season, wore this? Yabba-dabba-doo! The Lions, on the other hand, haven’t changed that much.

• Check out this illo of Lenny Moore, circa 1957. Naturally, the caption mentions his famous spats, but there’s also this: “The yellowish substance on the shoes is a resin many ball carriers dab on their fingers to get more tack on the ball.” This is the earliest reference to stickum I’ve ever seen. Also from the caption: “The sweat band on his wrist was borrowed from tennis.” So are they saying Moore was the first NFLer to wear a sweatband? Major discovery!

• There’s also a series of awesome poster-style illustrations devoted to over a dozen important NFL historical figures, including Johnny U, Crazy Legs Hirsch, John Mackey, Jim Brown, Don Hutson, Chuck Bednarik, Gino Marchetti, Leo Nomellini, Louie the Toe, Gale Sayers, Cal Hubbard, Jerry Kramer, Ray Nitschke, Night Train Lane, and Elmen Tunnell.

• Great padding/gear photo here.

• Did you know the Redskins used to wear their Indian-head logo on their chest, sort of like the Blackhawks? Look!

• There are lots of photos showing Lucite facemasks. Note that in this shot, the backfield is Lucite-masked, while the linemen have conventional cages.

• I’m fascinated by the berets and bow ties that early officials wore, as seen here, here, and here.

• Here’s the oldest, rattiest jersey I’ve ever seen. And the 8 appears to be upside-down!

• Rare shot here of the Browns’ block-shadowed numbers.

• We’ve all seen this SI cover featuring Y.A. Tittle. But I’d never seen that helmet in action until I saw this photo (note the light-colored nighttime ball, too). Also, oddly, they chose to use Tittle and his helmet as the subject for this illustration. The caption includes the following note: “Although Tittle wore high top shoes, low cuts were becoming the most popular shoes. With the mandatory taping of ankles, the high cuts were no longer necessary.” I’d never heard about mandatory ankle taping before, or its effect on footwear styles!

• Love the striping and shoulder yokes here.

• Check out this shot of the overtime coin toss from the famous 1958 championship game. No wonder the Giants lost the game — their captains were taking refuge in a sideline cape while Johnny U was rarin’ to go. Bad form, no?

• You don’t often see pics from the early-’70s Pro Bowls, back when they wore “A” and “N” helmets.

• Hey, Jim Bakken — fasten your chinstrap!

Want to get your own copy of this fine volume? Look here.

And now a note from Vince: I’m looking for unique sports-related T-shirts, not unlike the beautiful Brewers shirt Paul linked to last week. Anything different, timely, relatively unknown, undiscovered, or featuring great design would be welcomed. Have a favorite tee you’d like to share with the world, own a company that makes kick ass shirts, or know of somewhere to get some great gear? Drop me a note with the pertinent details. Thanks much.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Paul here. Fascinating story here about a factual error in one of the Steelers’ Super Bowl ring designs. … Dig these great high school hoops unis from 1972. Love those big bullseye numbers (with thanks to Chris Markham). … Mark Jones sent along this photo from the 1966 Cotton Bowl. Note that the two LSU players have mismatched pants striping. … Brazilian soccer star Ronaldinho will wear No. 80. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen a number that high on a soccer jersey,” says Greg Riffenburgh. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The Dodgers print Andy LaRoche’s NOB in all caps, while the Pirates style his brother Adam’s NOB with a small cap. … When I visit Portland next month, I hope most of the locals can spell better than whoever created these jerseys at the Highland Games (with thanks to Ryan Hossner). … Andrew Ferguson reports that BU basketball has a new 100th-anniversary logo, although it isn’t clear yet if it’ll be worn as a patch. … Can’t remember if we’ve covered this already, but just in case: Miami will supposedly be wearing this alternate jersey this season — yikes (with thanks to Mike Camello). … Got an interesting note from Mike Frentz, who attends the same church where Marc Sagmoen is a youth pastor. Sagmoen, as some of you may recall, is the outfielder who was called up by the Rangers and issued No. 42 on April 15th, 1997 — the same day the number was retired by MLB (we’ve discussed this previously here on the site; for details, scroll down to the middle of this entry). Mike writes: “On April 15, 2007 (a Sunday, as it happens), [Sagmoen] brought in the jersey he wore for that one game, the 10th anniversary of his MLB debut. As he tells the story, he’s sitting there in the on-deck circle in the 4th inning of his big league debut. As he and Mickey Tettleton get loose, Mickey says to him, ‘Take your jersey off.’ Marc is confused, even after Mickey repeats the message. Finally, exasperated, Mickey points to the Jumbotron, where President Clinton is making the announcement that Jackie Robinson’s No. 42 will be retired across baseball. ‘Now batting, number 42…’ … Anyway, the question I the question I wanted to ask is this: Marc claims that this incident makes him the only player in the four major pro sports to play one game and then have his jersey number retired. Can you verify this, or come up with counterexamples for me to show him? I’m not talking about ceremonial comeback stints or numbers that were never used again (like Eddie Gaedel’s 1/8). The player must have played exactly one game and then had his number formally retired.” Good question. Anyone..? … I work for ESPN.com, so how come it took Stu Taylor to tell me that the site is doing a college football helmet poll? … See that little chest patch on Kyle Boller’s jersey? The Ravens are giving that to players who attended at least 85% of the team’s off-season workouts (plus they get a piece of candy, a gold star, and a nice note from the teacher to show their parents). Here’s a closer look (with thanks to Jack Krabbe). … Gibby Davis notes that Shawn Marcum appears to have a more southerly Pedro porthole. … Paul Wiederecht sent along this shot of the 1989 Pittsfield Mets. Thank got the parent club never used that striped waistband. And what’s with the one guy with the striped pants? … Good info here on Roger Federer’s Olympics attire (with thanks toBrinke Guthrie). … Here’s something you don’t often see: a Little League team in Negro Leagues throwbacks (with thanks to Michael Miller). … Scott Novosel sent along this shot from a 1976 all-star tour of Japan. Look at all the National Leaguers wearing pillbox caps! … David Sonny notes that Johnny Cueto has switched from a black glove to a red one. … DC report from John Muir, who writes: “On Thursday, July 17th, my girlfriend and I went to the 47th Annual Congressional Baseball Game at Nationals Park, the first to be held in the new stadium. I had to use my cell phone camera, because her camera battery died. Those shots, and several scans from the official program, can be found here. Some notes from the game: Democrats took the left dugout, Republicans the right; Dem. Batting helmets were blue, Reps. Red; all Congressmen wore the uniforms of their home MLB, minor league, local college (some of them were alma maters), or hometown travel team; Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) wore a No. 9 Mets home alternate, with solid blue cap and high blue socks; Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Cali) wore No. IX, in reference to Title IX; Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Az) donned the Diamondbacks road brick, with full black tights; Rep. Joe Buca (D-Cali) wore a Dodgers home jersey and cap, but with oddly piped pants; former Florida GOP Rep. Lou Frey Jr., who’s slated to be inducted into the Congressional Baseball HOF, was in attendance — he wore Dodgers off-white throwback.” … Good soccer uni site here (with thanks to A.C.). … And here’s a compendium of Olympics posters dating back to 1896 (as forward by Marcus Ramsey). … Thanks to everyone who came down to KGB last night — hope you had as much fun as I did.

 

233 comments to Uni Watch Book Club: The First 50 Years

  • Jim | July 23, 2008 at 7:57 am |

    I keep hearing that St. Louis Blues’ third jersey this upcoming season is rumored to have both the blues note and the gateway arch on the front. I don’t know about you guys, but I expect nothing but a disaster. Nothing good can come from this.

  • Mike McGann | July 23, 2008 at 8:02 am |

    A couple of notes on today’s column: in that shot from Pittsfield the guy in the stripes was a roving instructor. To this day, roving Mets’ instructors wear Major League uniforms while visiting farm clubs — pretty clearly that is a Mets’ ’89 home uni he’s in.

    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. And Stearns would have been wearing 16 if it were 1976, which he wore his rookie season with the Mets, which was 1976 (although he was up late in ’75).

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 8:10 am |

    [quote]• Here’s the oldest, rattiest jersey I’ve ever seen. And the 8 appears to be upside-down![/quote]

    early patriots?

  • Marco | July 23, 2008 at 8:10 am |

    As far as high soccer numbers, Ronaldo wore the number 99 while playing at AC Milan.

    http://imgserv.ya.co...

  • adam | July 23, 2008 at 8:19 am |

    [quote comment=”281378″]

    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. And Stearns would have been wearing 16 if it were 1976, which he wore his rookie season with the Mets, which was 1976 (although he was up late in ’75).[/quote]

    And Charlie Hustle wasn’t a Phightin’ Phil till ’79

  • Scott | July 23, 2008 at 8:22 am |

    Jaime Moreno wears number 99 for DC United.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 8:26 am |

    [quote comment=”281378″]A couple of notes on today’s column: in that shot from Pittsfield the guy in the stripes was a roving instructor. To this day, roving Mets’ instructors wear Major League uniforms while visiting farm clubs — pretty clearly that is a Mets’ ’89 home uni he’s in.

    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. And Stearns would have been wearing 16 if it were 1976, which he wore his rookie season with the Mets, which was 1976 (although he was up late in ’75).[/quote]
    Also, the Pirates didn’t wear those unis featured until ’77. I was wondering when I first saw the pic and the description if they had the mix-and-matches planned for ’77 and debuted them in Japan in the offseason but that doesn’t seem to be the case from what you’re saying. (great pic nonetheless, all that pillbox goodness)

    Unrelated, but is Rashard Mendenhall wearing shades in this shot? http://www.post-gaze...

    Also, if anyone has a Wall Street Journal subscription, there’s a neat story today about Olympic mascots and it features a slideshow of mascots past. http://online.wsj.co...

  • Daniel Vasques | July 23, 2008 at 8:29 am |

    On the 100th anniversary of Flamengo, a soccer club from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Romario wore the 100 number on his jersey. I have a link to a picture of the jersey but can’t find one of him wearing it.
    http://lh6.ggpht.com...

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 8:32 am |

    not quite uni-related, but there are some uni-related questions…

    take the quiz!

    are you softball guy?

  • Pete | July 23, 2008 at 8:32 am |

    Just confirmed something I noticed last week by looking at the Soccer Uni Website – On some teams (definitely Holland and I think also Croatia) the Swoosh on one sock is at the front and on the back of the other… I thought I’d put on my Holland Away socks (got them ‘cos I liked the color and they were on special offer) wrong, but the illsutrations confirm it. I guess they’re only allowed to put one on each sock but this way one’s always visible to the cameras…

  • Harry | July 23, 2008 at 8:33 am |

    [quote comment=”281383″][quote comment=”281378″]
    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. [/quote]

    AND Teddy Ballgame wearing a San Diego Padres brown uniform AND a pill box hat. I had never seen that before

  • Moss | July 23, 2008 at 8:34 am |

    Last night in the Tigers-Royals game, Carlos Guillen batted without batting gloves. He has been wearing batting gloves for as long as I can remember.

  • duker | July 23, 2008 at 8:38 am |

    Here’s the closer view of the Ravens Purple Hammer Patch!

  • Paul Lukas | July 23, 2008 at 8:47 am |

    Good points, everyone, on that Japanese all-star photo — should have caught all of those things myself (it was late, I’d had a lot to drinkn at KGB, I was falling asleep as I put the Ticker together, etc.). All the more remarkable, though, that they used the ’76 caps!

  • Mark in Shiga | July 23, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    I love that Japan photo — check out all those flat hats! And two different number fonts for the mets!

    It’s definitely from 1979 — that was the only year that all-stars from both leagues came to Japan to play (and they only played two games). In ’78 the Reds went 14-2-1 against various Japanese teams. Here’s a list of US-Japan results, in Japanese; can’t find one ni English just yet, but the numbers are readable to anyone.

    The lineups, if anyone’s interested, are (and some of this could bt wrong as it’s hard to tell the difference between an 8 and a 9 in the photo): AL, Molitor 2b, Wilson lf, Lemon cf, Cooper 1b, Singleton rf, Baylor dh, Lansford 3b, Smalley ss, Dempsey c, Langford p; NL, Matthews rf, Madlock 3b, Parker cf, Simmons c, Foster lf, Kirby 1b, Brock dh, Youngblood 2b, Bowa ss, Niekro p.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    [quote comment=”281387″][quote comment=”281383″][quote comment=”281378″]
    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. [/quote]

    AND Teddy Ballgame wearing a San Diego Padres brown uniform AND a pill box hat. I had never seen that before[/quote]
    Was he a hitting instructor with them? I didn’t think he managed them.

    Do some of those pillboxes have five or six stripes or is it just the image?

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    [quote comment=”281389″]Here’s the closer view of the Ravens Purple Hammer Patch![/quote]
    bush league

    professionals should not be “rewarded” for attending offseason work outs by getting a patch, what is this the Cub Scouts?

  • MPowers1634 | July 23, 2008 at 8:52 am |

    [quote comment=”281385″]not quite uni-related, but there are some uni-related questions…

    take the quiz!

    are you softball guy?[/quote]

    http://www.dogpounds...

  • Jim | July 23, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    [quote comment=”281393″][quote comment=”281389″]Here’s the closer view of the Ravens Purple Hammer Patch![/quote]
    bush league

    professionals should not be “rewarded” for attending offseason work outs by getting a patch, what is this the Cub Scouts?[/quote]

    Awarding grown adults for showing up to 85% of something? Isn’t showing up for 85% of something not such a good thing? Espically when it’s your job…

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 8:58 am |

    [quote comment=”281395″][quote comment=”281393″][quote comment=”281389″]Here’s the closer view of the Ravens Purple Hammer Patch![/quote]
    bush league

    professionals should not be “rewarded” for attending offseason work outs by getting a patch, what is this the Cub Scouts?[/quote]

    Awarding grown adults for showing up to 85% of something? Isn’t showing up for 85% of something not such a good thing? Espically when it’s your job…[/quote]

    i said the same thing yesterday!

    85% attendance at my job gets me canned, not rewarded

  • Mike | July 23, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    It’s not a pro sport, but Travis Roy played one game at BU, then had his number retired.

  • jeff | July 23, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    The 77 all star photo shows Chuck Tanner of the Pirates wearing a uni combo that was never used during the season. Yellow shirt with white pinstripe pants!

  • Original Jim | July 23, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    I didn’t know that the Detroit Tigers also wore pillbox hats. Look at the player standing behind Ted Williams…

  • scott | July 23, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”281399″]I didn’t know that the Detroit Tigers also wore pillbox hats. Look at the player standing behind Ted Williams…[/quote]

    Looks like Aurelio Lopez… it is odd to see him in a pillbox, assuming that’s a Tiger cap.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | July 23, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    In the pic Paul shared of the Browns’ block-shadowed numbers, #76 appears to have an upside-down “9” for a “6.”

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”281399″]I didn’t know that the Detroit Tigers also wore pillbox hats. Look at the player standing behind Ted Williams…[/quote]

    i din’t think they did, jim…seeing as the NATIONAL league was celebrating their centennial when the caps were worn (i believe), not the AL…so…

    how in the hell did a tiger get on that team (which appears to be all NLers to begin with) and what is he doing wearing the pillbox?

    great detective work

  • Dave in VA | July 23, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    Are we sure that’s Ted Williams and not Roger Craig (Padres manager in 1978)? I believe the game is from the 1978 offseason, since Dave Kingman (back left, behind Parker) didn’t play for the Cubs until ’78, and Aurelio Lopez (Tigers) didn’t play for Detroit until 1979, but was traded to the Tigers in December of ’78. Also, Ozzie Smith’s first season with the Padres was 1978.

  • tomasher | July 23, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    Watching the Phillies game last night, I noticed that Joe Blanton’s NOB was spaced incorrectly, compared to the rest of the team. The guy’s been on the team for a week, for crying out loud.

    I don’t have the photos to back me up, but it ticked me off through the entire game… until the 9th inning, anyway.

  • scott | July 23, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    How come more teams that DIDN’T wear pillboxes in 1976 (like the Padres) are wearing them in that photo? According to Dressed to the Nines, only five NL teams wore them that year.

  • Dave in VA | July 23, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    Follow-up on my previous post: Aurelio Lopez was traded from the Cardinals to the Tigers in December, so that could explain why he was in Tigers gear but with the NL.

  • Joe Hilseberg | July 23, 2008 at 9:24 am |

    Mystery solved! Santa spends his off-seasons attending O’s games! Look over Marcum’s shoulder.

    http://farm4.static....

  • Pat | July 23, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”281401″]In the pic Paul shared of the Browns’ block-shadowed numbers, #76 appears to have an upside-down “9” for a “6.”[/quote]

    I just came down to the comments section to mention the same thing.

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    [quote]Santa spends his off-seasons attending O’s games[/quote]

    apparently no one else does

  • Tony In Erie (at home) | July 23, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    Yay! I actually get to play along today!

    Michel Briere played one season for the Penguins in 69-70 then had an auto accident; the Pens retired his #21.

  • Tony In Erie (at home) | July 23, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    I better lay off the medication. Forget I said that, its early, I just woke up hung over.

    One game does not equal a season, Tony. *eyeroll*

  • Kurt Kaufmann | July 23, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Regarding the Japan All-Star photo: Does anyone know anything about the blue jacket Chuck Tanner is wearing?

  • Bryan Redemske | July 23, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    Please. I’d kick Softball Guy’s ass.

  • u2-horn | July 23, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”281381″]

    And Charlie Hustle wasn’t a Phightin’ Phil till ’79[/quote]
    That’s Tug McGraw

  • teamcinnamon | July 23, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”281404″]Watching the Phillies game last night, I noticed that Joe Blanton’s NOB was spaced incorrectly, compared to the rest of the team. The guy’s been on the team for a week, for crying out loud.

    I don’t have the photos to back me up, but it ticked me off through the entire game… until the 9th inning, anyway.[/quote]

    Not only that – but it appeared that his cool base jersey was a shade of gray darker than his pants were. I remember reading on the site a while ago about how the materials would be different and this would occur from time to time.
    Carlos Ruiz’s also looked a tad darker.

    Blanton:
    http://philadelphia....

  • Bryan | July 23, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    Dig these great high school hoops unis from 1972. Love those big bullseye numbers (with thanks to Chris Markham)
    I wish we had that whole article page…that is Tom Izzo and Steve Mariucci in which led to a long friendsip.
    http://blog.mlive.co...

  • Rich O | July 23, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    In the wider shot, the Ravens patch looks kinda like the arm is holding a big old cartoonish lollipop.

  • scott | July 23, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”281378″]A couple of notes on today’s column: in that shot from Pittsfield the guy in the stripes was a roving instructor. To this day, roving Mets’ instructors wear Major League uniforms while visiting farm clubs — pretty clearly that is a Mets’ ’89 home uni he’s in.

    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. And Stearns would have been wearing 16 if it were 1976, which he wore his rookie season with the Mets, which was 1976 (although he was up late in ’75).[/quote]

    Hey, fellas, sorry about that. I typed that it was in the 1976 on that photo. McGann impressive human encyclopedia skills! Awesome!

  • Patrick | July 23, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    I’m sort of surprised this story hasn’t gotten mention yet.

    Jack Wilson is claiming he’s broken his recent slump by changing his socks. Now that he got a hit, however, he’s going back. Although, if he always wore high socks, he’d never fall into a slump, right?

    Unfortunately, no pictures with the story, but you can see Exhibit A if you watch the game highlights from Monday.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”281398″]The 77 all star photo shows Chuck Tanner of the Pirates wearing a uni combo that was never used during the season. Yellow shirt with white pinstripe pants![/quote]
    I’m not so sure about that. There was some material I prepared that didn’t run with the Star Power piece last week. I basically said to Paul that the Okkonnen/Dressed to the Nines sketches of the mix-and-match era were inconsistent and didn’t take into account ALL the combos. Although I don’t have any photos right now, I think the Bucs did experiment with using the striped pants with both the yellow and black jerseys. I don’t think it was as widespread as the other combos though.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”281419″]I’m sort of surprised this story hasn’t gotten mention yet.

    Jack Wilson is claiming he’s broken his recent slump by changing his socks. Now that he got a hit, however, he’s going back. Although, if he always wore high socks, he’d never fall into a slump, right?

    Unfortunately, no pictures with the story, but you can see Exhibit A if you watch the game highlights from Monday.[/quote]
    It was later in the evening, so you might have missed it:

    http://www.uniwatchb...
    http://www.uniwatchb...

    I noticed it right away watching the game. It was nice to see that look on a Pirate, not too many do it.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    BTW, a picture really is worth a thousand words huh? That photo of the MLB players in Japan has set off enough talk that it could have been an entry all to itself!!!!

  • Dustin | July 23, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”281418″][quote comment=”281378″]A couple of notes on today’s column: in that shot from Pittsfield the guy in the stripes was a roving instructor. To this day, roving Mets’ instructors wear Major League uniforms while visiting farm clubs — pretty clearly that is a Mets’ ’89 home uni he’s in.

    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. And Stearns would have been wearing 16 if it were 1976, which he wore his rookie season with the Mets, which was 1976 (although he was up late in ’75).[/quote]

    Hey, fellas, sorry about that. I typed that it was in the 1976 on that photo. McGann impressive human encyclopedia skills! Awesome![/quote]

    Also, what’s the case of inconsistency? Some Phils are wearing the pillbox, and others aren’t! What’s more, was Detroit in the National League (far left) for a period of time, and I wasn’t aware of it? It also appears that the Cubs, Dodgers, Braves and Cards didn’t have the pillboxes (and that the Pirates only had three stripes, with possible exception to the Pirate on the far left).

    Check out the “C” on the Pirate that’s partially obscured by the Padre and Met just left of center, too. Is this one of Baseball’s first captain’s insignias? The guy to his right (from our perspective) didn’t get the memo that the Pirates were wearing yellow tops/black hats, either.

    Finally, what’s the blue jacket on the Pirate on the far right? I can’t seem to determine what it is at all.

  • Rick | July 23, 2008 at 10:08 am |

    The Ravens offseason camps (just like every team in the NFL) are optional. So for you smart asses out there, that means you do not have to attend. The patches were given to the players who put in the extra effort to attend.

    The patches are only for training camp so lighten up. At least the Ravens do not participate in the NFL Captain patch stupidity.

  • Phil | July 23, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    And Charlie Hustle wasn’t a Phightin’ Phil till ‘79

    I don’t see Charlie Hustle in that picture. Are you looking at Tug McGraw?

  • Dave in VA | July 23, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    Everyone looked so happy to be in that team picture, as well.

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote]Check out the “C” on the Pirate that’s partially obscured by the Padre and Met just left of center, too. Is this one of Baseball’s first captain’s insignias? The guy to his right (from our perspective) didn’t get the memo that the Pirates were wearing yellow tops/black hats, either.

    Finally, what’s the blue jacket on the Pirate on the far right? I can’t seem to determine what it is at all.[/quote]

    it appears the pirate with the “C” is wearing a jacket…so if it is a captain’s designation, it’s not on his jersey

    the pirate in the blue jacket appears not to be wearing a pirate jacket…i enlarged the picture to 150%, but still can’t make out the logo…maybe the phils????

  • Un-Original Jim | July 23, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”281381″][quote comment=”281378″]

    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. And Stearns would have been wearing 16 if it were 1976, which he wore his rookie season with the Mets, which was 1976 (although he was up late in ’75).[/quote]

    And Charlie Hustle wasn’t a Phightin’ Phil till ’79[/quote]

    That definitely looks like Pete’s Disco Mane, but I believe that is Tug McGraw.

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”281403″]Are we sure that’s Ted Williams and not Roger Craig (Padres manager in 1978)?[/quote]

    that’s DEFINITELY roger craig…he was the pods manager at the time (1978-1979)…

    although…there does exist a picture of ted williams in a san diego padre uniform

    …only it’s from 1935, when he was a minor leaguer

    …………

    also, and it’s been confirmed several times already, that’s definitely TUG, not charles hustler…the uni number is “45”…tugger’s #

  • Walaitis | July 23, 2008 at 10:37 am |

    Bon Jour, y’all!

    I’m back at work this morning after a week in Paris, and I will say I have some VERY interesting Uni news to share, from medieval times, nonetheless!

    Unfortunately, I don’t have the spare time to go through it today, but by early next week I promise to get some surprising stuff out here!

  • Ricko1 | July 23, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”281398″]The 77 all star photo shows Chuck Tanner of the Pirates wearing a uni combo that was never used during the season. Yellow shirt with white pinstripe pants![/quote]

    Yeah, they did. With black hat was standard, but at least once with gold hat. Was part of the regular home rotation.

    What’s odd is the gold stirrups with that combo. That wasn’t part of the rotation. Was black socks virtually all the time with pins pants, no matter which jersey of the three jerseys.

    At work now, but can get several photos to Paul.

    standard “nine” combos were…

    HAT, JERSEY-PANTS(sleeves),STIRRUPS
    Black, gold-gold (bk), black.
    Black, gold-black (bk), gold.
    Black, gold-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-gold (bk), black.
    Gold, pins-black (go), gold. *
    Gold, black-pins (go), black.
    Gold, black-black (go), gold.
    Gold, black-gold (go), black.

    They messed about with it, though..as I said i have some SI shots of..
    Gold, pins-gold, black, for example.

  • pete goegan | July 23, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    “Lou the Toe,” not Louie! And, though The Toe wore #76 for the Browns during his career, the fellow wearing it in the picture is the great Marion Motley.

  • Jason | July 23, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”281378″]A couple of notes on today’s column: in that shot from Pittsfield the guy in the stripes was a roving instructor. To this day, roving Mets’ instructors wear Major League uniforms while visiting farm clubs — pretty clearly that is a Mets’ ’89 home uni he’s in.[/quote]

    You beat me to the punch. That is the general practice of most clubs regarding their roving instructors.

  • Ricko1 | July 23, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    Self-noted…

    They may have worn the pins pants on the road, but not the white pins jerseys.

  • Isabelle | July 23, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    I’m fascinated by the berets and bow ties that early officials wore
    Those aren’t berets–those are big news-boy type caps. Can’t you see the brim? No brims on berets . . .

  • Ricko1 | July 23, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    I’d guess a lot of the player wore the pillboxes just because they could on a tour like that, much as players change shoe colors for the ASG.

    There were pillbox fan caps for every team, as I recall, whether the team actually wore them or not….so the hats would have been readily available.

  • Eric Drummond Smith | July 23, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    First, I just want to say I love your blog. Secondly, the refs aren’t wearing berets, which are bill-less hats, but rather driving/drivers/newsie hats. A beret would be useless in blocking glares, which of course is essential for playcalling. Keep up the great work, and if you get the chance, check out a few more small college teams – that always makes my entire day.

  • Hank | July 23, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”281428″][quote comment=”281381″][quote comment=”281378″]

    On the All-Star shot from Japan: that picture has to be from 1979…there was not a tour in 1976 or 1977 and the Reds went in 1978. Also, it features Mets’ uniforms not used until 1978 — and it features John Stearns and Joel Youngblood — neither of whom would have been selected to play on anything like an All-Star team in 1976. And Stearns would have been wearing 16 if it were 1976, which he wore his rookie season with the Mets, which was 1976 (although he was up late in ’75).[/quote]

    And Charlie Hustle wasn’t a Phightin’ Phil till ’79[/quote]

    That definitely looks like Pete’s Disco Mane, but I believe that is Tug McGraw.[/quote]

    It’s Tugger. You can see the “5” portion of his uni #45. And Rose has a bigger, rounder noggin’. The other Phightin’s are Larry Bowa and Greg Luzinski. (Plus Burger Bill Giles getting a massage by Chuck Tanner. Yikes.)

  • Mark in Shiga | July 23, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    One more thing on the 1979 Japan photo — here’s my theory about why they wore these special hats. 1979 was the 30th anniversary of the two-laegue (Central and Pacific) system in Japan, and in the Japanese all-star game, they wore pillbox hats with stripes!

    Here’s a photo of them from Japan’s Hall of Fame.

    I suspect they chose the pillbox-with-stripes motif in imitation of the same design worn in the majors three years earlier.

    So maybe they figured it would be a fun idea if the visiting major leaguers did the same thing. I’m trying to find game action photos from that series, to see if the Japanese teams also wore the special hats, but can’t just yet. I suspect it would involve trekking to a library and hunting through 29-year-old newspapers!

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?

  • Walaitis | July 23, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”281437″]I’d guess a lot of the player wore the pillboxes just because they could on a tour like that, much as players change shoe colors for the ASG.

    There were pillbox fan caps for every team, as I recall, whether the team actually wore them or not….so the hats would have been readily available.[/quote]

    Ricko? Have you multiplied since I left town?

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | July 23, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    A few other observations on the 1978 NL picture:
    * Joel Youngblood appears to be wearing black stirrups with his Met uni. (I thought this might have been just a lighting issue, until I noticed Garvey’s blue Dodger stirrups.)

    * The different number fonts on Youngblood’s and Stearns’s Met jerseys have already been mentioned. However, it is necessary to add that Youngblood’s is the wrong one for that team. Also Ozzie Smith has the wrong number font on his Padres jersey. Perhaps these particular jerseys were not from the season, but made for this trip?

    * How about the crazy Expos pillbox cap sported by the player right behind Aurelio Lopez? It is not the solid blue that we’ve seen before, but it has a blue top and bill, with white around the “pillbox”! (One would expect that there should be some blue stripes going around; but I don’t see them.)

  • Ricko1 | July 23, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”281440″]One more thing on the 1979 Japan photo — here’s my theory about why they wore these special hats. 1979 was the 30th anniversary of the two-laegue (Central and Pacific) system in Japan, and in the Japanese all-star game, they wore pillbox hats with stripes!

    Here’s a photo of them from Japan’s Hall of Fame.

    I suspect they chose the pillbox-with-stripes motif in imitation of the same design worn in the majors three years earlier.

    So maybe they figured it would be a fun idea if the visiting major leaguers did the same thing. I’m trying to find game action photos from that series, to see if the Japanese teams also wore the special hats, but can’t just yet. I suspect it would involve trekking to a library and hunting through 29-year-old newspapers![/quote]

    That sounds plausible, because as far as i know any of those hats produced for U.S. consumption (MLB on-field or as fan caps) had only three stripes…like the Pirates.

  • Urban Runoff | July 23, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    The “A” on the old AFC Pro Bowl helmets looks a lot like the Arizona Wildcats. -Runoff

  • Ricko1 | July 23, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]

    Those are the first Mizunos.
    Had an M on the side.

  • Dave in VA | July 23, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]
    Those shoes were made by Mizuno in the late 70’s.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”281442″][quote comment=”281437″]I’d guess a lot of the player wore the pillboxes just because they could on a tour like that, much as players change shoe colors for the ASG.

    There were pillbox fan caps for every team, as I recall, whether the team actually wore them or not….so the hats would have been readily available.[/quote]

    Ricko? Have you multiplied since I left town?[/quote]

    Oops, my email address has that “1”, sometimes fingers just keep going.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    I got a 23 on that “softall guy” quiz. How’d anyone else do?

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”281447″][quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]

    Those are the first Mizunos.
    Had an M on the side.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”281448″][quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]
    Those shoes were made by Mizuno in the late 70’s.[/quote]

    thought so, but wasn’t sure…thanks

    …question…did they pick those up (i assume they are of japanese origin) just for that series, and did they ever wear them in the states with that logo? i don’t ever recall seeing mizuno footwear with anything other than this logo

  • Dave in VA | July 23, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”281451″][quote comment=”281447″][quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]

    Those are the first Mizunos.
    Had an M on the side.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”281448″][quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]
    Those shoes were made by Mizuno in the late 70’s.[/quote]

    thought so, but wasn’t sure…thanks

    …question…did they pick those up (i assume they are of japanese origin) just for that series, and did they ever wear them in the states with that logo? i don’t ever recall seeing mizuno footwear with anything other than this logo…[/quote]
    I do know that Pete Rose wore them in (at least) ’79, his first year with the Phils. I have an old ‘Camera Night’ photo of him from that year – the game where the Phils wore the all-burgundy uniforms – and he’s wearing the Mizuno cleats.

  • Saru | July 23, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    High numbers are not uncommon in Italian soccer. Cristiano Lucarelli wore 99 for Livorno–not just a high number but also “an homage to left-wing ultras group Brigate Autonome Livornesi, which was founded in 1999.” (From Wikipedia, though I have read about it here as well.

  • Steven | July 23, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    http://farm4.static....

    Jaime Moreno of DC United has worn 99 for the last few seasons. (also note the TM by the DC logo? and Becks behind him in a long sleeve shirt…the field temp was like 120 degrees that day)

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Jeff Cunningham is wearing 96 this year at Toronto. He uses his goal total at the start of the season(or has in the past)

    http://farm3.static....

    Bofo Bautista of Chivas de Guadalajara wears 100.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”281451″][quote comment=”281447″][quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]

    Those are the first Mizunos.
    Had an M on the side.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”281448″][quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]
    Those shoes were made by Mizuno in the late 70’s.[/quote]

    thought so, but wasn’t sure…thanks

    …question…did they pick those up (i assume they are of japanese origin) just for that series, and did they ever wear them in the states with that logo? i don’t ever recall seeing mizuno footwear with anything other than this logo…[/quote]

    Yup, lotsa player wore them, including Rose with the Phillies, I think, and number of the A’s. I’ll do some digging.

    Well, there’s this…(check Keough)

    http://vault.sportsi...

    an’ ol’ Petey…
    http://vault.sportsi...

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”281452″]I do know that Pete Rose wore them in (at least) ’79, his first year with the Phils. I have an old ‘Camera Night’ photo of him from that year – the game where the Phils wore the all-burgundy uniforms – and he’s wearing the Mizuno cleats.[/quote]

    YES

    …awesome…thanks

  • ryan c #40 | July 23, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    the “compendium of Olympics posters” the mexico 68 poster is VERY clever!!! love it!

  • Steven | July 23, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    And while I’m posting…Rep. Baca, why not wear your districts Minor League team uni? Inland Empire 66ers? I would understand if the team was on the outskirts of the district that also included parts of LA. But, no. One more reason for me to dislike him.

    (to be fair the 66ers are a Dodgers farm team…but still)

  • MPowers1634 | July 23, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    A Bit OT for just a second…I found this pic of Kirby Puckett and Sparky Anderson, from presumably the 1993 ASG.

    Check out the length of the pants and how good both their unis look!

    http://www.greenarro...

    Anyone ever notice what a good job Lou WHitaker did in magic markering his number in 1987?

    http://farm1.static....

    BTW.

  • MPowers1634 | July 23, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    Lou Whitaker was ’85 sorry!

  • Jim | July 23, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”281458″]the “compendium of Olympics posters” the mexico 68 poster is VERY clever!!! love it![/quote]

    Beijing’s symbol:

    Is that a running man AND a chinese character? Or just one of them alone?

  • Ben | July 23, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    Whats with the Brewers untucking their jerseys after each win lately? http://sports.espn.g...

    GO BREWERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cubbies are coming down from first tonite!

  • Craig D | July 23, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    A little nugget in the Cleveland Plain Dealer about the Cleveland Browns Brownie Elf.
    “Brownie’s return: The elf came back in 1999 on the capes worn during cold-weather games. When the NFL suggested putting Brownie on the team’s helmet, coach Butch Davis said, “I don’t want to coach the Elves.””
    It’s a sidebar in this article
    http://blog.clevelan...
    The NFL is STILL pushing the Browns to add something to the helmet??? Sure it was a few years ago…but geez…Say No To LOGOS!

  • MPowers1634 | July 23, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”281456″][quote comment=”281451″][quote comment=”281447″][quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]

    Those are the first Mizunos.
    Had an M on the side.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”281448″][quote comment=”281441″]what’s the “M” several players have on their cleats (and also sneakers – for the dodger coach)?[/quote]
    Those shoes were made by Mizuno in the late 70’s.[/quote]

    thought so, but wasn’t sure…thanks

    …question…did they pick those up (i assume they are of japanese origin) just for that series, and did they ever wear them in the states with that logo? i don’t ever recall seeing mizuno footwear with anything other than this logo…[/quote]

    Yup, lotsa player wore them, including Rose with the Phillies, I think, and number of the A’s. I’ll do some digging.

    Well, there’s this…(check Keough)

    http://vault.sportsi...

    an’ ol’ Petey…
    http://vault.sportsi...

    That is something about sneakers that I didn’t know about…Cool!

    Although, the M Logo looks very much what the company Merrell uses today:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://www.merrell.c...

    http://farm2.static....

  • u2-horn | July 23, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”281444″]
    * How about the crazy Expos pillbox cap sported by the player right behind Aurelio Lopez? It is not the solid blue that we’ve seen before, but it has a blue top and bill, with white around the “pillbox”! (One would expect that there should be some blue stripes going around; but I don’t see them.)[/quote]

    My brother had a white Expos pillbox. It did have blue stripes.

    http://i33.photobuck...

  • Dustin | July 23, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”281463″]Whats with the Brewers untucking their jerseys after each win lately? http://sports.espn.g...

    GO BREWERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cubbies are coming down from first tonite![/quote]

    It’s something that’s quite unfortunate, but they’ve been doing it for a most of the season (remembering Paul’s comments on multiple occasions). It looks sloppy, but it’s their thing after wins.

  • TD | July 23, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    That’s definitely Aurelio Lopez, and he definitely didn’t play a game with the Tigers until 1979. He was in the Cardinals organization in ’78 and his rights were traded to Detroit in December of 1978.

    Also, Gene Garber (Atlanta #26) wasn’t a Bravo until midseason 1978 – he was traded from the Phillies on June 15th.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    I can’t speak for anyone else, and I’m a great believer that stadia, ballparks, arenas and covention centers are—if you wanna be a major market player—part of a community’s infrastructure.

    And I frickin’ love pro football. The game itself, that is. Inside the white lines.

    But the Vikings are asking for some $600 million from the public for a new stadium. The team, including the NFL’s contribution, will put up about $250 million. For a place to play, what, 10 games a year?

    And those are games you really can’t take a family to anymore because, even beyong the cost, far too high a percentage of any NFL crowd is so drunk and obnoxious they make you never want to go back.

    The NFL has become a marketing machine, focussing on retail sales, cable TV money and filling stadia with corporpate bigwigs who sit in private behind glass watching–and laughing at–the rude drunks with whom they’d never dream of associating, and who are marching relentlessly downward toward soccer holliganism.

    Not to mention players who, as a group, seem to have a seriosuly deteriorating idea of how a responsible, civilized adult should behave.

    Has anyone noticed that L.A. seems to be surving just fine without an NFL team?

    Remember how attendance and viwership lagged for a time after the last work stoppage? Trust me, I spoke with insiders back then who were pretty scared. They realized Americans had come dangerously close to discovering there were plenty of other great things to do on an Autumn Sunday.

    Sometimes I think it’s about time we all did exactly that.

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote]Has anyone noticed that L.A. seems to be surving just fine without an NFL team?[/quote]

    miami too

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”281470″][quote]Has anyone noticed that L.A. seems to be surving just fine without an NFL team?[/quote]

    miami too[/quote]

    Cincinnati and Phoenix, also.
    Was gonna say Detroit, but Detroit ain’t doing fine any way you look at it.

  • S. Bennett | July 23, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    Worst Uniform Ever.

    http://lieve.blog.ka...

    SB

  • Mark in Cincy | July 23, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    I didn’t see anyone comment on this, but I was looking through the pictures of the Congressional game and I found a picture of John Boccieri (D-OH) batting for St. Bonaventure in his college days. It looks like he is wearing a long-sleeve jersey! I can’t link right to the picture, but it is the first picture in the third row of snapshots.

    Am I right, or am I just seeing things?

    http://picasaweb.goo...

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”281472″]Worst Uniform Ever.

    http://lieve.blog.ka...

    SB[/quote]

    Wow, would be pefect for the Ompa Loompa team.
    Green hair, orange faces, dizzying blue bullesye unis.

    And, wow, if each Oompa Loompa were holding a yellow lava lamp…?

    Far out, psychadelic, man. When I watched ’em play I’d see God an’ everything.

  • KT | July 23, 2008 at 12:19 pm |

    Someone wore #100 for Chivas de Guadalajara in the season of the club’s 100th anniversary.

    80 would be nothing new.

    Jeff Cunningham was changing his jersey number every year to reflect his career goal totals. I’ve forgotten what his career goal total actually is now, and, to be honest, where he’s playing these days.

  • Robert | July 23, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    Check out George Foster, on the right side of the 1976 Japan tour. Since he was in Japan and away from the supervision of Reds management, he got gutsy and pulled up his stirrups, showing plenty of white. The Reds had a team rule precluding such showmanship.

    http://farm4.static....

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”281431″][quote comment=”281398″]The 77 all star photo shows Chuck Tanner of the Pirates wearing a uni combo that was never used during the season. Yellow shirt with white pinstripe pants![/quote]

    Yeah, they did. With black hat was standard, but at least once with gold hat. Was part of the regular home rotation.

    What’s odd is the gold stirrups with that combo. That wasn’t part of the rotation. Was black socks virtually all the time with pins pants, no matter which jersey of the three jerseys.

    At work now, but can get several photos to Paul.

    standard “nine” combos were…

    HAT, JERSEY-PANTS(sleeves),STIRRUPS
    Black, gold-gold (bk), black.
    Black, gold-black (bk), gold.
    Black, gold-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-gold (bk), black.
    Gold, pins-black (go), gold. *
    Gold, black-pins (go), black.
    Gold, black-black (go), gold.
    Gold, black-gold (go), black.

    They messed about with it, though..as I said i have some SI shots of..
    Gold, pins-gold, black, for example.[/quote]
    Ricko, I would love to see shots of all them and to have them for my personal files. I hope you can get them to Paul.

    Also, do you (or anyone else) recall what volume of the ricko files contained the shot of the all-green A’s uni? I’d like that shot as well.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”281476″]Check out George Foster, on the right side of the 1976 Japan tour. Since he was in Japan and away from the supervision of Reds management, he got gutsy and pulled up his stirrups, showing plenty of white. The Reds had a team rule precluding such showmanship.

    http://farm4.static....
    Isn’t he breaking the shoe rule also. Weren’t they required to wear black on black in those days? I know that was laxed through the 80s until they switched to red cleats.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”281477″][quote comment=”281431″][quote comment=”281398″]The 77 all star photo shows Chuck Tanner of the Pirates wearing a uni combo that was never used during the season. Yellow shirt with white pinstripe pants![/quote]

    Yeah, they did. With black hat was standard, but at least once with gold hat. Was part of the regular home rotation.

    What’s odd is the gold stirrups with that combo. That wasn’t part of the rotation. Was black socks virtually all the time with pins pants, no matter which jersey of the three jerseys.

    At work now, but can get several photos to Paul.

    standard “nine” combos were…

    HAT, JERSEY-PANTS(sleeves),STIRRUPS
    Black, gold-gold (bk), black.
    Black, gold-black (bk), gold.
    Black, gold-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-gold (bk), black.
    Gold, pins-black (go), gold. *
    Gold, black-pins (go), black.
    Gold, black-black (go), gold.
    Gold, black-gold (go), black.

    They messed about with it, though..as I said i have some SI shots of..
    Gold, pins-gold, black, for example.[/quote]
    Ricko, I would love to see shots of all them and to have them for my personal files. I hope you can get them to Paul.

    Also, do you (or anyone else) recall what volume of the ricko files contained the shot of the all-green A’s uni? I’d like that shot as well.[/quote]

    All-green kelly was in Vol. 1, I think.

    Pretty sure I do have shots of all those Pirate combos, hopefully all in color.
    Can’t rely on shots of batters, of course, cuz helmets were gold. Lemme see what I can scrounge up, hopefully tonight.

  • Marty Met | July 23, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”281437″]I’d guess a lot of the player wore the pillboxes just because they could on a tour like that, much as players change shoe colors for the ASG.

    There were pillbox fan caps for every team, as I recall, whether the team actually wore them or not….so the hats would have been readily available.[/quote]

    I never heard of or saw pillbox caps for an AL team until today.

  • KT | July 23, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”281395″][quote comment=”281393″][quote comment=”281389″]Here’s the closer view of the Ravens Purple Hammer Patch![/quote]
    bush league

    professionals should not be “rewarded” for attending offseason work outs by getting a patch, what is this the Cub Scouts?[/quote]

    Awarding grown adults for showing up to 85% of something? Isn’t showing up for 85% of something not such a good thing? Espically when it’s your job…[/quote]

    And, yet, Willie Stargell’s little stars are the stuff of legend.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”281478″][quote comment=”281476″]Check out George Foster, on the right side of the 1976 Japan tour. Since he was in Japan and away from the supervision of Reds management, he got gutsy and pulled up his stirrups, showing plenty of white. The Reds had a team rule precluding such showmanship.

    http://farm4.static....
    Isn’t he breaking the shoe rule also. Weren’t they required to wear black on black in those days? I know that was laxed through the 80s until they switched to red cleats.[/quote]

    Tours like this are like ASG, players bend team rules a little.

    I have a game photo, btw, that’s NOT an All-Star Game from very, very early 70’s of Concepcion wearing red adidias with white stripes.

    Always wondered if some or all of Reds wore those for first-ever game at Riverfront. I’ll have to dig that one out and see who the opponent is, try to figure out when game was.

  • Robert | July 23, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”281478″][quote comment=”281476″]Check out George Foster, on the right side of the 1976 Japan tour. Since he was in Japan and away from the supervision of Reds management, he got gutsy and pulled up his stirrups, showing plenty of white. The Reds had a team rule precluding such showmanship.

    http://farm4.static....
    Isn’t he breaking the shoe rule also. Weren’t they required to wear black on black in those days? I know that was laxed through the 80s until they switched to red cleats.[/quote]

    Good catch. I missed the shoes because I was fixating on the socks.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”281481″][quote comment=”281395″][quote comment=”281393″][quote comment=”281389″]Here’s the closer view of the Ravens Purple Hammer Patch![/quote]
    bush league

    professionals should not be “rewarded” for attending offseason work outs by getting a patch, what is this the Cub Scouts?[/quote]

    Awarding grown adults for showing up to 85% of something? Isn’t showing up for 85% of something not such a good thing? Espically when it’s your job…[/quote]

    And, yet, Willie Stargell’s little stars are the stuff of legend.[/quote]

    For accomplishments a little different than for good attendance, wouldn’t you think? Plus, in case of Stargell stars were awarded teammate to teammate, not manager to player.

    Yes, the buckeye leaves at Ohio State, etc., are awarded by coaches. But, again, are for accomplishments under game conditions.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”281424″]The Ravens offseason camps (just like every team in the NFL) are optional. So for you smart asses out there, that means you do not have to attend. The patches were given to the players who put in the extra effort to attend.

    The patches are only for training camp so lighten up. At least the Ravens do not participate in the NFL Captain patch stupidity.[/quote]
    You’re naive if you think OTAs are truly “optional”. Sure, for mega stars and guaranteed types they are, but not fringe guys. Those guys not being at optional workouts can directly affect them making a squad. I’ve heard many ex-players say this, for example Ryan Stewart said on the 2 Live Stews radio show that when he was in Detroit Bobby Ross point blank told him “you don’t come to these workouts you’re cut”. The optional tag only makes the league feel they are policing the amount of time team’s practce, which they truly aren’t.

    I’m not just picking on the Ravens either. I thought the Bucs’ stickers a few years ago were bush as well. I’d rip on any team (including my Steelers) if they were to practice such shenigans.

    The only thing I’m cool with is the rookies having to earn their logo (Parcells with the Star in Dallas comes to mind).

  • norm | July 23, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    Just thought there were a couple of interesting things from this image.

    The Iranian national team is playing in the Rocky Mountain Revue summer league in Salt Lake, and the Jazz presented a jersey to the mother of one of their players who died in a car accident last year (story: here).

    Classy move by the Jazz organization, IMO. Thought it was interesting that in the above photo they went with first inital, middle name, last initial. I don’t know if that’s a Persian thing or what, but interesting nonetheless. Also, I think there’s a Jazz player with that number already.

  • matt mitchell | July 23, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    paul,
    get your headwear terminology straight.

    this is a beret (sported by the great richard thompson):
    http://www.aladdin-t...

    this is a driving cap (the late, dapper payne stewart):
    http://dascoop.files...

  • Wollen1 | July 23, 2008 at 12:59 pm |

    I hope the Republican pitchers were checked for nail files, tacks and Vasaline :).

  • David | July 23, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”281424″]The Ravens offseason camps (just like every team in the NFL) are optional. So for you smart asses out there, that means you do not have to attend. The patches were given to the players who put in the extra effort to attend.

    The patches are only for training camp so lighten up. At least the Ravens do not participate in the NFL Captain patch stupidity.[/quote]

    Amen, Rick! Personally, I like the patches – new coach, new system…. this will help build camaraderie, and I see nothing wrong with that.

    And LI Phil, who peed in your cornflakes this morning? Rip the Orioles, rip the Dolphins … what has your panties in a bunch? Or are you just miffed that you are no longer Paul’s No. 1 lapdog?

  • Bdawg | July 23, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    Interesting to see that when designating the Olympics by roman numeral, they counted the 1940 and 1944 games as if they actually happened.

  • Eephus | July 23, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”281462″][quote comment=”281458″]the “compendium of Olympics posters” the mexico 68 poster is VERY clever!!! love it![/quote]

    Beijing’s symbol:

    Is that a running man AND a chinese character? Or just one of them alone?[/quote]

    Yep, it’s both. The Jing character (meaning ‘capital’) from Beijing (‘northern capital’) is stylized into a running man.

  • Ryan B. | July 23, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”281472″]Worst Uniform Ever.

    http://lieve.blog.ka...

    SB[/quote]

    I think I’ve contracted vertigo.

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”281489″]And LI Phil, who peed in your cornflakes this morning? Rip the Orioles, rip the Dolphins … what has your panties in a bunch? Or are you just miffed that you are no longer Paul’s No. 1 lapdog?[/quote]

    paul’s no. 1 lapdog? WTF? i didn’t know there was such a thing and im pretty sure i never was…

    as far as “ripping” the dolphins and orioles…lighten up there buddy…i wasn’t ripping either team…perhaps my attempts a comedy were lost on you but i surely wasn’t ripping on either team…i merely saw an empty camden and remembered the fish were 1-15 last year…if it were an empty shea or the giants went 1-15, they’d have been the butt of my joke (or attempt at humor)

  • Marty Met | July 23, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”281427″][quote]Check out the “C” on the Pirate that’s partially obscured by the Padre and Met just left of center, too. Is this one of Baseball’s first captain’s insignias? The guy to his right (from our perspective) didn’t get the memo that the Pirates were wearing yellow tops/black hats, either.

    Finally, what’s the blue jacket on the Pirate on the far right? I can’t seem to determine what it is at all.[/quote]

    it appears the pirate with the “C” is wearing a jacket…so if it is a captain’s designation, it’s not on his jersey

    the pirate in the blue jacket appears not to be wearing a pirate jacket…i enlarged the picture to 150%, but still can’t make out the logo…maybe the phils????[/quote]

    That’s not a C, it’s the top of the S in Pirates. I assume that it’s Don Robinson in the photo and there is no way he would be Captain. Actually there is no way anyone other than Stargell would have been Captain.

    The blue jacket Chuck Tanner is weraing is probably borrowed. An all-star tour of japan would have been in December or January. He was probably chilly and grabbed what ever jacket fit.

  • jeff | July 23, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    Not that I am saying your lying…but I will believe it when I see it. Looking forward to the pics!

    Yeah, they did. With black hat was standard, but at least once with gold hat. Was part of the regular home rotation.

    What’s odd is the gold stirrups with that combo. That wasn’t part of the rotation. Was black socks virtually all the time with pins pants, no matter which jersey of the three jerseys.

    At work now, but can get several photos to Paul.

    standard “nine” combos were…

    HAT, JERSEY-PANTS(sleeves),STIRRUPS
    Black, gold-gold (bk), black.
    Black, gold-black (bk), gold.
    Black, gold-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-gold (bk), black.
    Gold, pins-black (go), gold. *
    Gold, black-pins (go), black.
    Gold, black-black (go), gold.
    Gold, black-gold (go), black.

    They messed about with it, though..as I said i have some SI shots of..
    Gold, pins-gold, black, for example.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”281484″][quote comment=”281481″][quote comment=”281395″][quote comment=”281393″][quote comment=”281389″]Here’s the closer view of the Ravens Purple Hammer Patch![/quote]
    bush league

    professionals should not be “rewarded” for attending offseason work outs by getting a patch, what is this the Cub Scouts?[/quote]

    Awarding grown adults for showing up to 85% of something? Isn’t showing up for 85% of something not such a good thing? Espically when it’s your job…[/quote]

    And, yet, Willie Stargell’s little stars are the stuff of legend.[/quote]

    For accomplishments a little different than for good attendance, wouldn’t you think? Plus, in case of Stargell stars were awarded teammate to teammate, not manager to player.

    Yes, the buckeye leaves at Ohio State, etc., are awarded by coaches. But, again, are for accomplishments under game conditions.[/quote]
    Yeah, Pops wasn’t giving out stars for batting practice HRs! And those were badges of honor because, like you said, they were peer-to-peer awards from the unquestioned leader of the team.

  • chance | July 23, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    Love those “A” and “N” helmets, but howzabout this one?

    It’s Forrest Gregg’s 1968 game-worn Pro Bowl helmet, clearly his Packers helmet repainted and with the NFL logo.

    Leland’s also has Larry Little’s red AFC “A” helmet in their archives.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”281494″][quote comment=”281427″][quote]Check out the “C” on the Pirate that’s partially obscured by the Padre and Met just left of center, too. Is this one of Baseball’s first captain’s insignias? The guy to his right (from our perspective) didn’t get the memo that the Pirates were wearing yellow tops/black hats, either.

    Finally, what’s the blue jacket on the Pirate on the far right? I can’t seem to determine what it is at all.[/quote]

    it appears the pirate with the “C” is wearing a jacket…so if it is a captain’s designation, it’s not on his jersey

    the pirate in the blue jacket appears not to be wearing a pirate jacket…i enlarged the picture to 150%, but still can’t make out the logo…maybe the phils????[/quote]

    That’s not a C, it’s the top of the S in Pirates. I assume that it’s Don Robinson in the photo and there is no way he would be Captain. Actually there is no way anyone other than Stargell would have been Captain.

    The blue jacket Chuck Tanner is weraing is probably borrowed. An all-star tour of japan would have been in December or January. He was probably chilly and grabbed what ever jacket fit.[/quote]
    I think that’s Jim Bibby in the jacket. Also, I don’t believe that’s a “C” or an “S”. I think it’s actually a “P” and the material is folding over. If someone can go into my ’79 entry from last week (can’t access photobucket at work) that can probably be confirmed.

    Pirates left to right in photo are Parker, Bibby, Blyleven and Tanner.

    Also, what’s neat about this photo, someone mentioned they all look thrilled to be there, but it looks like it was snapped by an unofficial photog before the actually photo was taken because no is really posing and in the same direction.

  • Dick Woodcock | July 23, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    Speaking of Aureillio, I’ve never seen a Tigers pillbox before.

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | July 23, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    Bdawg: Interesting to see that when designating the Olympics by roman numeral, they counted the 1940 and 1944 games as if they actually happened.

    Not extactly. The term “olympiad” is frequely misunderstood. It is not, as frequently misused, a synonym for “Olympic Games”. In fact, an “olympiad” is “a four-year period”.

    The period ending with 1896 is the “first olympiad”. So the 1920 Games were the “games of the 7th olympiad”, since six more periods of four years (six more olympiads) had elapsed since then.

    Likewise, the 1948 Games were called “the games of the 14th olympiad”, even though there were no Games during the previous two olympiads (previous two four-year periods).

  • Geeman | July 23, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”281420″][quote comment=”281398″]The 77 all star photo shows Chuck Tanner of the Pirates wearing a uni combo that was never used during the season. Yellow shirt with white pinstripe pants![/quote]
    I’m not so sure about that. There was some material I prepared that didn’t run with the Star Power piece last week. I basically said to Paul that the Okkonnen/Dressed to the Nines sketches of the mix-and-match era were inconsistent and didn’t take into account ALL the combos. Although I don’t have any photos right now, I think the Bucs did experiment with using the striped pants with both the yellow and black jerseys. I don’t think it was as widespread as the other combos though.[/quote]
    I have photos of the Pirates mixing the dark jerseys and pinstripe pants. They wore all nine combos, more if you count the cap/stirrup/sweatshirt combos. One game they even wore all-white-pinstripe AT Shea Stadium.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”281495″]Not that I am saying your lying…but I will believe it when I see it. Looking forward to the pics!

    Yeah, they did. With black hat was standard, but at least once with gold hat. Was part of the regular home rotation.

    What’s odd is the gold stirrups with that combo. That wasn’t part of the rotation. Was black socks virtually all the time with pins pants, no matter which jersey of the three jerseys.

    At work now, but can get several photos to Paul.

    standard “nine” combos were…

    HAT, JERSEY-PANTS(sleeves),STIRRUPS
    Black, gold-gold (bk), black.
    Black, gold-black (bk), gold.
    Black, gold-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-gold (bk), black.
    Gold, pins-black (go), gold. *
    Gold, black-pins (go), black.
    Gold, black-black (go), gold.
    Gold, black-gold (go), black.

    They messed about with it, though..as I said i have some SI shots of..
    Gold, pins-gold, black, for example.[/quote]

    Well, just last night was looking at a big ass black and white photo of Dave Parker from a 1979 book…shoes all taped, pants all pinstriped and wearing a jersey that is neither pinstriped nor black. What else could it be?

  • Jordan Pope | July 23, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”281383″][quote comment=”281378″]
    Unrelated, but is Rashard Mendenhall wearing shades in this shot? http://www.post-gaze...

    [/quote]

    I think its just the glare from his visor

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”281495″]Not that I am saying your lying…but I will believe it when I see it. Looking forward to the pics!

    Yeah, they did. With black hat was standard, but at least once with gold hat. Was part of the regular home rotation.

    What’s odd is the gold stirrups with that combo. That wasn’t part of the rotation. Was black socks virtually all the time with pins pants, no matter which jersey of the three jerseys.

    At work now, but can get several photos to Paul.

    standard “nine” combos were…

    HAT, JERSEY-PANTS(sleeves),STIRRUPS
    Black, gold-gold (bk), black.
    Black, gold-black (bk), gold.
    Black, gold-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-gold (bk), black.
    Gold, pins-black (go), gold. *
    Gold, black-pins (go), black.
    Gold, black-black (go), gold.
    Gold, black-gold (go), black.

    They messed about with it, though..as I said i have some SI shots of..
    Gold, pins-gold, black, for example.[/quote]

    See page 32 and 34 from this issue…
    1. One of the abberations to the nine basic combos–gold hat (instead of black) with pins jersey & gold pants.
    2. Gold hat, black jersey, pins.
    3. Goose Gossage sans mustache (p. 32)

    http://vault.sportsi...

  • Brewer Rob | July 23, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    Whoever made the comment about the Japanese All Star photo could have been a column in itself was spot on!! When I first saw that photo – I noticed many of the items brought up already – I find it absolutely amazing how I analyze a picture like that after reading Paul’s blog!!!

  • Bryan Redemske | July 23, 2008 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”281463″]Whats with the Brewers untucking their jerseys after each win lately? http://sports.espn.g...

    GO BREWERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cubbies are coming down from first tonite![/quote]

    … except the worst they’ll be is tied for first.

  • pslade | July 23, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    Are there any pictures in that book of the 1929 Orange(NJ) Tornadoes? As someone who grew up in neighboring South Orange, I’ve always been fascinated by this franchise, who played one year in Orange and one year in Newark before disappearing.

  • Geeman | July 23, 2008 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”281503″][quote comment=”281495″]Not that I am saying your lying…but I will believe it when I see it. Looking forward to the pics!

    Yeah, they did. With black hat was standard, but at least once with gold hat. Was part of the regular home rotation.

    What’s odd is the gold stirrups with that combo. That wasn’t part of the rotation. Was black socks virtually all the time with pins pants, no matter which jersey of the three jerseys.

    At work now, but can get several photos to Paul.

    standard “nine” combos were…

    HAT, JERSEY-PANTS(sleeves),STIRRUPS
    Black, gold-gold (bk), black.
    Black, gold-black (bk), gold.
    Black, gold-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-gold (bk), black.
    Gold, pins-black (go), gold. *
    Gold, black-pins (go), black.
    Gold, black-black (go), gold.
    Gold, black-gold (go), black.

    They messed about with it, though..as I said i have some SI shots of..
    Gold, pins-gold, black, for example.[/quote]

    Well, just last night was looking at a big ass black and white photo of Dave Parker from a 1979 book…shoes all taped, pants all pinstriped and wearing a jersey that is neither pinstriped nor black. What else could it be?[/quote]
    On a June Friday night in 1977, the Pirates wore pinstripes at Shea Stadium.

  • Geeman | July 23, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”281434″]Self-noted…

    They may have worn the pins pants on the road, but not the white pins jerseys.[/quote]
    Friday night in June ’77, they wore all-pins at Shea. It was riddiculous, but they did it.

  • looziana | July 23, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    Thanks for the LSU shot with the mismatched pants. I wore a pair of those in the late sixties. Back in the mid-sixties Charlie McClendon changed the pants striping from purple/white/purple, which matched the helmet striping, to white/purple/white for a couple of seasons. I never figured out if Charlie Mac did this intentionally or if there was a screw up with the supplier. In any event, LSU had tons of uniforms. It was the tradition at LSU that we wore used game uniforms at practice. Jerseys were made of cotton so they only got used in games maybe a couple of times before they were relegated to the practice bin. When the jerseys got too ratty they would cut off the sleeves and issue them as work out shirts. Pants were a little more durable so they weren’t recycled quite as often. During the mid to late sixties LSU had stocks of pants with both stripe designs and until the white/purple/white striped pants were used up you often saw players in games and in practice with either striping pattern. At any rate, thanks for the trip down memory lane…

  • MPowers1634 | July 23, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”281504″][quote comment=”281383″][quote comment=”281378″]
    Unrelated, but is Rashard Mendenhall wearing shades in this shot? http://www.post-gaze...

    [/quote]

    I think its just the glare from his visor[/quote]

    I second that!

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”281509″][quote comment=”281503″][quote comment=”281495″]Not that I am saying your lying…but I will believe it when I see it. Looking forward to the pics!

    Yeah, they did. With black hat was standard, but at least once with gold hat. Was part of the regular home rotation.

    What’s odd is the gold stirrups with that combo. That wasn’t part of the rotation. Was black socks virtually all the time with pins pants, no matter which jersey of the three jerseys.

    At work now, but can get several photos to Paul.

    standard “nine” combos were…

    HAT, JERSEY-PANTS(sleeves),STIRRUPS
    Black, gold-gold (bk), black.
    Black, gold-black (bk), gold.
    Black, gold-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-pins (bk), black. *
    Black, pins-gold (bk), black.
    Gold, pins-black (go), gold. *
    Gold, black-pins (go), black.
    Gold, black-black (go), gold.
    Gold, black-gold (go), black.

    They messed about with it, though..as I said i have some SI shots of..
    Gold, pins-gold, black, for example.[/quote]

    Well, just last night was looking at a big ass black and white photo of Dave Parker from a 1979 book…shoes all taped, pants all pinstriped and wearing a jersey that is neither pinstriped nor black. What else could it be?[/quote]
    On a June Friday night in 1977, the Pirates wore pinstripes at Shea Stadium.[/quote]

    They did wear the pins jereseys on the road?
    Cool. Always wondered about that.
    After typing an earlier post today I remembered a baseball card from that era. Is a Met player’s card, Parker is sliding into second wearing gold jersey and pins and I’m pretty sure photo is from Shea…so had to rethink pins pants on the road.

    Never was sure about the jerseys, though.

  • Geeman | July 23, 2008 at 2:44 pm |

    There should have been a rule against it. Hard to tell teams apart if they’re both in white pinstripes and a player is sliding into second.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”281512″][quote comment=”281504″][quote comment=”281383″][quote comment=”281378″]
    Unrelated, but is Rashard Mendenhall wearing shades in this shot? http://www.post-gaze...

    [/quote]

    I think its just the glare from his visor[/quote]

    I second that![/quote]
    I see it now. At first glance though I thought they were Oakleys (and I didn’t even see a visor in there). It’s crooked though, although that would happen if you were hit and they slid.

    Oh well, thought I stumbled upon something.

    Other Steelers’ stuff: anyone heard about bringing back the throwbacks again? I know that photo of them practicing in yellow helmets has been posted, just wondered if anyone heard anything more official.

    That uni could be worn again no problem (sans the 75th anniversary patch of course). It’s not really a throwback per se in that it’s not a period specific uni, but one melded from different eras.

  • lwiedy | July 23, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”281506″]Whoever made the comment about the Japanese All Star photo could have been a column in itself was spot on!! When I first saw that photo – I noticed many of the items brought up already – I find it absolutely amazing how I analyze a picture like that after reading Paul’s blog!!![/quote]

    A little late to the discussion but I have collected several images of Royals from either that or another Japanese tour. I noticed that the Royals had clearly “Non-Wilson” uniforms. They never wore anything but Wilson from 1969 to 1986. My theory is that the uniforms were replicated by a perhaps local (to Japan) company.

    The group shot shows there are several oddities including the #18 on the Mets (mentioned earlier) uni and the Pirates pinstripes look a little different which would possibly indicate they did not bring their regular duds. With only a handful of suppliers being used in the States, this may have been attempt for a far-east company to get a foothold in the US. It certainly worked for Mizuno.

    Also, no one over here was making five-stripe pillbox hats (Mets, Cards, Phils), not in ’76, ’79 or anytime else.

  • Kek | July 23, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”281510″][quote comment=”281434″]Self-noted…

    They may have worn the pins pants on the road, but not the white pins jerseys.[/quote]
    Friday night in June ’77, they wore all-pins at Shea. It was riddiculous, but they did it.[/quote]
    Wow, that’s pretty good info. I knew they wore the pins pants on the road but with a colored jersey. I had never heard this being done in full white pins ON THE ROAD. that’s crazy.

    Perhaps some research is in order because as far as I remember, the pins jersey/colored pants schemes were always at home. Was this a mix-up? A one time thing squashed by MLB?

    Also, Ricko, if you’re wondering about hats with combos, try and score pictures of Pops batting because more times than not his cap was visible below his helmet

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”281514″]There should have been a rule against it. Hard to tell teams apart if they’re both in white pinstripes and a player is sliding into second.[/quote]

    Not saying they should have worn them, or that I like it, just nice to get answer to something I’d wondered about.

    That time period was pretty loose on uni things, but white jerseys on the road? Didn’t know it had gone that goofy. But evidently it had.

  • Joe Hickey | July 23, 2008 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”281454″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2629239797_1ac0feb118_o.jpg

    Jaime Moreno of DC United has worn 99 for the last few seasons. (also note the TM by the DC logo? and Becks behind him in a long sleeve shirt…the field temp was like 120 degrees that day)

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Jeff Cunningham is wearing 96 this year at Toronto. He uses his goal total at the start of the season(or has in the past)

    http://farm3.static....

    Bofo Bautista of Chivas de Guadalajara wears 100.[/quote]

    As it turns out, this is very popular in Italy, though admittedly moreso amongst the lesser knowns of Serie A. For example, my favorite club, ChievoVerona, currently on the roster has Vincenzo Italiano (#77), Erjon Bogdani (#81) and Luca Rigoni (#86), and two years back also had Simone Tiribocchi (#90… I have one of his shirts) and Denis Godeas (#99).

    A lot of the higher numbers are happening for the same reason ‘Dinho did it, too: birth-years.

  • BCrisp | July 23, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    Anybody ever seen these baseball photos from the Library of Congress?
    I haven’t looked through very many of them, but there are sure to be some gems in here. 258 photos total.
    Library of Congress

  • Geeman | July 23, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”281517″][quote comment=”281510″][quote comment=”281434″]Self-noted…

    They may have worn the pins pants on the road, but not the white pins jerseys.[/quote]
    Friday night in June ’77, they wore all-pins at Shea. It was riddiculous, but they did it.[/quote]
    Wow, that’s pretty good info. I knew they wore the pins pants on the road but with a colored jersey. I had never heard this being done in full white pins ON THE ROAD. that’s crazy.

    Perhaps some research is in order because as far as I remember, the pins jersey/colored pants schemes were always at home. Was this a mix-up? A one time thing squashed by MLB?

    [/quote]
    Only time I ever saw it. Wouldn’t be hard to confirm if we checked the New York papers from the next day.

  • scott | July 23, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”281518″][quote comment=”281514″]There should have been a rule against it. Hard to tell teams apart if they’re both in white pinstripes and a player is sliding into second.[/quote]

    Not saying they should have worn them, or that I like it, just nice to get answer to something I’d wondered about.

    That time period was pretty loose on uni things, but white jerseys on the road? Didn’t know it had gone that goofy. But evidently it had.[/quote]

    The Bay Area Toros of the Continenttal Baseball League seem to wear their home white pinstripes on the road. I was recently at a game in McKinney, TX where the home town Blue Thunder also wore their home whites while playing the Toros. I don’t think I’d ever seen anything like that before in a supposedly professional league.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”281517″][quote comment=”281510″][quote comment=”281434″]Self-noted…

    They may have worn the pins pants on the road, but not the white pins jerseys.[/quote]
    Friday night in June ’77, they wore all-pins at Shea. It was riddiculous, but they did it.[/quote]
    Wow, that’s pretty good info. I knew they wore the pins pants on the road but with a colored jersey. I had never heard this being done in full white pins ON THE ROAD. that’s crazy.

    Perhaps some research is in order because as far as I remember, the pins jersey/colored pants schemes were always at home. Was this a mix-up? A one time thing squashed by MLB?

    Also, Ricko, if you’re wondering about hats with combos, try and score pictures of Pops batting because more times than not his cap was visible below his helmet[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure I have them all in color. Well, the combos of black and gold, and all pins, are easy enough to find. It’s the use of pins with color that’s rare, probably because as noted here they were the least used combos.

    The SI article above shows two of them. I know I have gold, pins-black(go), gold (a Bruce Kison Topps, I think, if anyone wants to go looking for it. Just not sure I have black, gold-pins(bk), black in color. Know I have it black and white.

    Aw, hell, just found it on my own…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Jordan Pope | July 23, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=\\\”281515\\\”][quote comment=\\\”281512\\\”][quote comment=\\\”281504\\\”][quote comment=\\\”281383\\\”][quote comment=\\\”281378\\\”]
    Unrelated, but is Rashard Mendenhall wearing shades in this shot? http://www.post-gaze...

    [/quote]

    I think its just the glare from his visor[/quote]

    I second that![/quote]
    I see it now. At first glance though I thought they were Oakleys (and I didn\\\’t even see a visor in there). It\\\’s crooked though, although that would happen if you were hit and they slid.

    Oh well, thought I stumbled upon something.

    Other Steelers\\\’ stuff: anyone heard about bringing back the throwbacks again? I know that photo of them practicing in yellow helmets has been posted, just wondered if anyone heard anything more official.

    That uni could be worn again no problem (sans the 75th anniversary patch of course). It\\\’s not really a throwback per se in that it\\\’s not a period specific uni, but one melded from different eras.[/quote]

    yea it is
    1962 Steelers Uniforms

  • Jordan Pope | July 23, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    link didnt work

    1962 Steelers Uniforms

  • Dave in VA | July 23, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”281523″][quote comment=”281517″][quote comment=”281510″][quote comment=”281434″]Self-noted…

    They may have worn the pins pants on the road, but not the white pins jerseys.[/quote]
    Friday night in June ’77, they wore all-pins at Shea. It was riddiculous, but they did it.[/quote]
    Wow, that’s pretty good info. I knew they wore the pins pants on the road but with a colored jersey. I had never heard this being done in full white pins ON THE ROAD. that’s crazy.

    Perhaps some research is in order because as far as I remember, the pins jersey/colored pants schemes were always at home. Was this a mix-up? A one time thing squashed by MLB?

    Also, Ricko, if you’re wondering about hats with combos, try and score pictures of Pops batting because more times than not his cap was visible below his helmet[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure I have them all in color. Well, the combos of black and gold, and all pins, are easy enough to find. It’s the use of pins with color that’s rare, probably because as noted here they were the least used combos.

    The SI article above shows two of them. I know I have gold, pins-black(go), gold (a Bruce Kison Topps, I think, if anyone wants to go looking for it. Just not sure I have black, gold-pins(bk), black in color. Know I have it black and white.

    Aw, hell, just found it on my own…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    And that also shows pins on the road (jersey, at least), since it looks like Candlestick in the background of Kison’s card.

  • S. Bennett | July 23, 2008 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”281519″][quote comment=”281454″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2629239797_1ac0feb118_o.jpg

    Jaime Moreno of DC United has worn 99 for the last few seasons. (also note the TM by the DC logo? and Becks behind him in a long sleeve shirt…the field temp was like 120 degrees that day)

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Jeff Cunningham is wearing 96 this year at Toronto. He uses his goal total at the start of the season(or has in the past)

    http://farm3.static....

    Bofo Bautista of Chivas de Guadalajara wears 100.[/quote]

    As it turns out, this is very popular in Italy, though admittedly moreso amongst the lesser knowns of Serie A. For example, my favorite club, ChievoVerona, currently on the roster has Vincenzo Italiano (#77), Erjon Bogdani (#81) and Luca Rigoni (#86), and two years back also had Simone Tiribocchi (#90… I have one of his shirts) and Denis Godeas (#99).

    A lot of the higher numbers are happening for the same reason ‘Dinho did it, too: birth-years.[/quote]

    Back in 99 (probably earlier) Ivan Zamorano wore #18 for Inter, but slipped a little “+” between them. He was always a number 9 and couldn’t get his usual digit when he went to the Blue side of Milan.

    http://www.marca.com...

    SB

  • S. Bennett | July 23, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”281480″][quote comment=”281437″]I’d guess a lot of the player wore the pillboxes just because they could on a tour like that, much as players change shoe colors for the ASG.

    There were pillbox fan caps for every team, as I recall, whether the team actually wore them or not….so the hats would have been readily available.[/quote]

    I never heard of or saw pillbox caps for an AL team until today.[/quote]

    Ozzie’s afro is so big it’s bent the sides of his pillbox! Looks like a Civil war design cap. In Pads colours. The Blue. The Grey. The… Mustard.

    SB

  • Mike Engle | July 23, 2008 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”281527″][quote comment=”281519″][quote comment=”281454″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2629239797_1ac0feb118_o.jpg

    Jaime Moreno of DC United has worn 99 for the last few seasons. (also note the TM by the DC logo? and Becks behind him in a long sleeve shirt…the field temp was like 120 degrees that day)

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Jeff Cunningham is wearing 96 this year at Toronto. He uses his goal total at the start of the season(or has in the past)

    http://farm3.static....

    Bofo Bautista of Chivas de Guadalajara wears 100.[/quote]

    As it turns out, this is very popular in Italy, though admittedly moreso amongst the lesser knowns of Serie A. For example, my favorite club, ChievoVerona, currently on the roster has Vincenzo Italiano (#77), Erjon Bogdani (#81) and Luca Rigoni (#86), and two years back also had Simone Tiribocchi (#90… I have one of his shirts) and Denis Godeas (#99).

    A lot of the higher numbers are happening for the same reason ‘Dinho did it, too: birth-years.[/quote]

    Back in 99 (probably earlier) Ivan Zamorano wore #18 for Inter, but slipped a little “+” between them. He was always a number 9 and couldn’t get his usual digit when he went to the Blue side of Milan.

    http://www.marca.com...

    SB[/quote]
    Truth or myth (would love to see a picture if true)?
    Italian goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon once wore #88 to signify the masculine fortitude of two men. (Four balls. Get it?)

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 3:16 pm |

    SI article is in post #124. Sorry for not including that.

  • Marcus from B-More | July 23, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    well now…OKC’s just stealing their thunder, no?

  • Teebz | July 23, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    There have been a number of “thunder” teams in may leagues.

    Why would Orlando care?

  • Teebz | July 23, 2008 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”281533″][quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    There have been a number of “thunder” teams in *many* leagues.

    Why would Orlando care?[/quote]

  • Marcus from B-More | July 23, 2008 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”281532″][quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    well now…OKC’s just stealing their thunder, no?[/quote]

    i DARE OKC to take their colors too

  • Jim | July 23, 2008 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    Too bad there is a picture of a lightning bolt on the “thunder’s” helmets.

    One of the first things I thought of when I heard of the OKC Thunder was what the hell is their logo going to be? You can’t have a PICTURE of “Thunder”. It should just be a wordmark.

  • Marcus from B-More | July 23, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”281533″][quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    There have been a number of “thunder” teams in may leagues.

    Why would Orlando care?[/quote]

    it mainly was an attempt at humor

  • Marcus from B-More | July 23, 2008 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”281536″][quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    Too bad there is a picture of a lightning bolt on the “thunder’s” helmets.

    One of the first things I thought of when I heard of the OKC Thunder was what the hell is their logo going to be? You can’t have a PICTURE of “Thunder”. It should just be a wordmark.[/quote]

    the EXACT point my co-worker made!

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”281538″][quote comment=”281536″][quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    Too bad there is a picture of a lightning bolt on the “thunder’s” helmets.

    One of the first things I thought of when I heard of the OKC Thunder was what the hell is their logo going to be? You can’t have a PICTURE of “Thunder”. It should just be a wordmark.[/quote]

    the EXACT point my co-worker made![/quote]

    nor could you have a picture of a “sonic” (boom)

    …guess this is just a franchise with a lotta loud noises then

  • Walaitis | July 23, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    News out of St. Louis (could be old … I’ve been gone a week) – Cardinals uniforms to change with AB takeover by InBev:

    http://img183.images...

  • S. Bennett | July 23, 2008 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”281529″][quote comment=”281527″][quote comment=”281519″][quote comment=”281454″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2629239797_1ac0feb118_o.jpg

    Jaime Moreno of DC United has worn 99 for the last few seasons. (also note the TM by the DC logo? and Becks behind him in a long sleeve shirt…the field temp was like 120 degrees that day)

    http://www.flickr.co...

    Jeff Cunningham is wearing 96 this year at Toronto. He uses his goal total at the start of the season(or has in the past)

    http://farm3.static....

    Bofo Bautista of Chivas de Guadalajara wears 100.[/quote]

    As it turns out, this is very popular in Italy, though admittedly moreso amongst the lesser knowns of Serie A. For example, my favorite club, ChievoVerona, currently on the roster has Vincenzo Italiano (#77), Erjon Bogdani (#81) and Luca Rigoni (#86), and two years back also had Simone Tiribocchi (#90… I have one of his shirts) and Denis Godeas (#99).

    A lot of the higher numbers are happening for the same reason ‘Dinho did it, too: birth-years.[/quote]

    Back in 99 (probably earlier) Ivan Zamorano wore #18 for Inter, but slipped a little “+” between them. He was always a number 9 and couldn’t get his usual digit when he went to the Blue side of Milan.

    http://www.marca.com...

    SB[/quote]
    Truth or myth (would love to see a picture if true)?
    Italian goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon once wore #88 to signify the masculine fortitude of two men. (Four balls. Get it?)[/quote]

    The mucho-macho was only part of that story. Here’s more…

    http://mreugenides.b...

    SB

  • Evan | July 23, 2008 at 3:50 pm |

    Ronaldo wore number 99 for Milan last season

    http://www.soccerway...

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    sigh…

    i miss these classic mid ’00’s unis

    don’t you?

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”281543″]sigh…

    i miss these classic mid ’00’s unis

    don’t you?[/quote]

    Ah, yes, the Cincinnati BlacksWithSomeRed.

    Makes about as much sense as when the Browns wear those alternate Orange jerseys thesedays.

  • Christopher | July 23, 2008 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”281536″][quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    Too bad there is a picture of a lightning bolt on the “thunder’s” helmets.

    One of the first things I thought of when I heard of the OKC Thunder was what the hell is their logo going to be? You can’t have a PICTURE of “Thunder”. It should just be a wordmark.[/quote]

    An explosion of sorts would be a possible rendition. I don’t know, the name is so generic and not classic at all. I already dislike them.

    My vote (and I even made up a Jersey for Paul’s article) was simply “Frontier”.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    Vikings open camp today.

    Hmmmm…wonder who I should take in the “First DUI” Pool.

  • Chuck Ryals | July 23, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    the football book looks awesome! I found two great books at a flea market; The American League A History and The National League A History, John Bowman and Joel Zoss 1986 Bison Books, published by Gallery Books NYC. Both are oversized with tons of great pics.

  • Robert | July 23, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”281522″][quote comment=”281518″][quote comment=”281514″]There should have been a rule against it. Hard to tell teams apart if they’re both in white pinstripes and a player is sliding into second.[/quote]

    Not saying they should have worn them, or that I like it, just nice to get answer to something I’d wondered about.

    That time period was pretty loose on uni things, but white jerseys on the road? Didn’t know it had gone that goofy. But evidently it had.[/quote]

    The Bay Area Toros of the Continenttal Baseball League seem to wear their home white pinstripes on the road. I was recently at a game in McKinney, TX where the home town Blue Thunder also wore their home whites while playing the Toros. I don’t think I’d ever seen anything like that before in a supposedly professional league.[/quote]

    I don’t think that the CBL teams have much of a budget. I seriously doubt that the Blue Thunder will return for a second season.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    Neither photos nor television cameras do that neon green justice.

    Didn’t U of Hawaii baseball team wear that color about the same time.

    And didn’t the Nets have an oddball uni around that time, too? Tie-dyed look or something?

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”281546″]Vikings open camp today.

    Hmmmm…wonder who I should take in the “First DUI” Pool.[/quote]

    zygi wilf

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 4:26 pm |

    Sorry…Hawaii BASKETBALL team

  • Marcus from B-More | July 23, 2008 at 4:41 pm |

    July 26th , Dem O’s will celebrate Latino Night

    http://baltimore.ori...

    I HOPE this doesn’t mean silly “Los Orioles” jerseys!!

  • subway | July 23, 2008 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”281404″]Watching the Phillies game last night, I noticed that Joe Blanton’s NOB was spaced incorrectly, compared to the rest of the team. The guy’s been on the team for a week, for crying out loud.

    I don’t have the photos to back me up, but it ticked me off through the entire game… until the 9th inning, anyway.[/quote]

    I can’t read the names on the Phillies’ backs unless they’ve got a close-up shot, they’re so damn thin.

  • Steven | July 23, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”281545″][quote comment=”281536″][quote comment=”281531″]how does orlando feel about one of their former team names being taken………………..
    http://www.geocities...

    Too bad there is a picture of a lightning bolt on the “thunder’s” helmets.

    One of the first things I thought of when I heard of the OKC Thunder was what the hell is their logo going to be? You can’t have a PICTURE of “Thunder”. It should just be a wordmark.[/quote]

    An explosion of sorts would be a possible rendition. I don’t know, the name is so generic and not classic at all. I already dislike them.

    My vote (and I even made up a Jersey for Paul’s article) was simply “Frontier”.[/quote]

    Toe be fair, Oklahoma has quite a bit of Thunderstorms….but yet, overall not a very strong choice.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    re: Lennie Moore, tape on shoes, et al.
    http://farm4.static....

    That was first time I new about stickum, too. On Moore’s taped shoes, that is.

    Now, speaking of that…if anyone cares, LOL…tonight I will scan and send to Paul the oldest photo I’ve seen of a football player (pro or college) with his shoes taped.

    Maybe it’s been seen here before. Guess I’ll find out.

    –Ricko

  • who cares | July 23, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    Like Pastels? Then put on your shades and check out this awesome site for only the topest shelf New Era swag!

    http://www.rocknjock...

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”281552″]July 26th , Dem O’s will celebrate Latino Night

    http://baltimore.ori...

    I HOPE this doesn’t mean silly “Los Orioles” jerseys!![/quote]

    Probably. Because the longstanding notion of those coming here being “assimilated” into American society has been replaced by, “Don’t worry, don’t learn English or anything, we’ll accomodate you.”

    Who here would move to oh, say, France, and wound’t think it a necessity, even an obligation, to learn to speak the language…at least a little?

  • who cares | July 23, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    Lightning map suggests that OKC are a bunch of posers. Kind of like a team from Miami calling itself the mountaineers.

    http://www.lightning...

  • Don | July 23, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    Here is the baseball card Parker sliding into 2nd.

    http://www.baseballc...

    I hope the link works.

  • Don | July 23, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    Oh, and here is Phil Garner, in what appears to be Shea, in all pins.

    http://www.baseballc...

  • Marcus from B-More | July 23, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”281556″]Like Pastels? Then put on your shades and check out this awesome site for only the topest shelf New Era swag!

    http://www.rocknjock...

    I can see this (of course with our regular colors) as our alternate hat or BP hat….

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”281561″]Oh, and here is Phil Garner, in what appears to be Shea, in all pins.

    http://www.baseballc...

    thank you, two times. Was looking for the Parker-slide card online.

  • joe | July 23, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”281507″][quote comment=”281463″]Whats with the Brewers untucking their jerseys after each win lately? http://sports.espn.g...

    GO BREWERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cubbies are coming down from first tonite![/quote]

    … except the worst they’ll be is tied for first.[/quote]

    considering they are 1 game up in first its impossible for them for come down from first today.

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”281556″]Like Pastels? Then put on your shades and check out this awesome site for only the topest shelf New Era swag!

    http://www.rocknjock...

    omfg

    yet…it’s sure to move

  • =bg= | July 23, 2008 at 5:14 pm |

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

    Favre to pay up if he wants 4 in Carolina. I am sick of this story- he retired, then wants to come back in March..changes his tune..then changes again. The team commits to Rodgers, period. Now he’s callin’ MN on a GB cell phone! Ack! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Brett. You can always hang out with John Madden:

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote]the longstanding notion of those coming here being “assimilated” into American society has been replaced by, “Don’t worry, don’t learn English or anything, we’ll accomodate you.”[/quote]

    wow mr. pearson…

    here’s one you’d like:

    Q: “what do you call a liberal who’s been mugged?”

    A: “a conservative”

  • JA | July 23, 2008 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”281548″][quote comment=”281522″][quote comment=”281518″][quote comment=”281514″]There should have been a rule against it. Hard to tell teams apart if they’re both in white pinstripes and a player is sliding into second.[/quote]

    Not saying they should have worn them, or that I like it, just nice to get answer to something I’d wondered about.

    That time period was pretty loose on uni things, but white jerseys on the road? Didn’t know it had gone that goofy. But evidently it had.[/quote]

    The Bay Area Toros of the Continenttal Baseball League seem to wear their home white pinstripes on the road. I was recently at a game in McKinney, TX where the home town Blue Thunder also wore their home whites while playing the Toros. I don’t think I’d ever seen anything like that before in a supposedly professional league.[/quote]

    I don’t think that the CBL teams have much of a budget. I seriously doubt that the Blue Thunder will return for a second season.[/quote]This is their second season. They played in North Richland Hills last year.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”281567″][quote]the longstanding notion of those coming here being “assimilated” into American society has been replaced by, “Don’t worry, don’t learn English or anything, we’ll accomodate you.”[/quote]

    wow mr. pearson…

    here’s one you’d like:

    Q: “what do you call a liberal who’s been mugged?”

    A: “a conservative”[/quote]

    Always liked that one. I’m pretty liberal, but it just bothers me that our long tradition of at least trying to be a welcoming place for people to make a home is being so badly abused.

    Maybe Twins should have a night when they were jerseys saying, “Scandahoovians”. Cuz, see, even though I’m pretty sure my grandparents–all four of ’em–learned English after they arrived here, it would be so nice to be reminded how much more culturally sensitive and politically correct baseball teams should have been a hundred years ago.

    I was in Russia in March. Can you believe those bastards didn’t have TV in English for me to watch?

  • James Craven | July 23, 2008 at 6:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”281513″]“They did wear the pins jereseys on the road?”[/quote]

    Also happened in a game at The Vet in ’78 or ’79 against the Phightin’ Phillies as well. the Chub Feeney stepped in (after the Phils complained) and ordered them never to wear the whites on the road again after that.

  • BurghFan | July 23, 2008 at 6:33 pm |

    The Pirates would mix and match all three colors at home, but just the black and gold on the road. They may have been even more adventuresome in 1977, but by ’79, it was always gold caps with black jerseys only, and gold stirrups with black pants only. (Black caps/stirrups with the other two colors.)

    In the Japan photo, Tanner’s pants don’t look like the Pirate pinstripes. He may have thrown on some other pair of pants, and jacket, to run out for the team photo.

  • BurghFan | July 23, 2008 at 6:35 pm |

    On a June Friday night in 1977, the Pirates wore pinstripes at Shea Stadium.

    According to Retrosheet, the Pirates were in New York April 22 and 23, July 15-17 (doubleheaders on the 15th and 17th), and September 20 and 21. If July 15 was Friday, they could have worked in the white as part of the 5 game series, but the Bucs weren’t at Shea in June.

  • S. Bennett | July 23, 2008 at 6:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”281555″]re: Lennie Moore, tape on shoes, et al.
    http://farm4.static....

    That was first time I new about stickum, too. On Moore’s taped shoes, that is.

    Now, speaking of that…if anyone cares, LOL…tonight I will scan and send to Paul the oldest photo I’ve seen of a football player (pro or college) with his shoes taped.

    Maybe it’s been seen here before. Guess I’ll find out.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ok, I’m lost. Can anybody tell me why you would want stickum on your shoes? Im obviously missing something.

    SB

  • Marcus from B-More | July 23, 2008 at 7:12 pm |

    Dem O’s are wearing ’83 uni’s tonight for their last WS chanpionship. Still wearing the Jim McKay black band. Blue Jays lookin pretty nice too with their ’83 uni’s

  • LarenR | July 23, 2008 at 7:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”281573″][quote comment=”281555″]re: Lennie Moore, tape on shoes, et al.
    http://farm4.static....

    That was first time I new about stickum, too. On Moore’s taped shoes, that is.

    Now, speaking of that…if anyone cares, LOL…tonight I will scan and send to Paul the oldest photo I’ve seen of a football player (pro or college) with his shoes taped.

    Maybe it’s been seen here before. Guess I’ll find out.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ok, I’m lost. Can anybody tell me why you would want stickum on your shoes? Im obviously missing something.

    SB[/quote]

    My best guess: You want it on your fingers. He stored it on his shoes so he could reload his hands without coming off the field.

  • Marcus from B-More | July 23, 2008 at 7:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”281574″]Dem O’s are wearing ’83 uni’s tonight for their last WS chanpionship. Still wearing the Jim McKay black band. Blue Jays lookin pretty nice too with their ’83 uni’s[/quote]

    Blue Jays didn’t have CoolFlo helmets, neither did the o’d, but the O’s helmets look just a tad off……..

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 7:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”281575″][quote comment=”281573″][quote comment=”281555″]re: Lennie Moore, tape on shoes, et al.
    http://farm4.static....

    That was first time I new about stickum, too. On Moore’s taped shoes, that is.

    Now, speaking of that…if anyone cares, LOL…tonight I will scan and send to Paul the oldest photo I’ve seen of a football player (pro or college) with his shoes taped.

    Maybe it’s been seen here before. Guess I’ll find out.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ok, I’m lost. Can anybody tell me why you would want stickum on your shoes? Im obviously missing something.

    SB[/quote]

    My best guess: You want it on your fingers. He stored it on his shoes so he could reload his hands without coming off the field.[/quote]

    Yup, same reason Fred Biletnikoff had it on his socks on the front of his ankles. Could “reload” in the huddle.

  • timmy b | July 23, 2008 at 7:43 pm |

    On the 1977 Pirates unis…

    I hope memory is serving me true here but IIRC, the Buccos were determined to mix and match every combo possible…cap, tops, undersleeves, pants and stirrups. Figure this out:

    2 caps
    3 jerseys
    2 undersleeves
    3 pants
    2 stirrups

    If I’m doing my math right, the Pirates had the potential to create 72 different combinations. Obviously some were worn more than others, but I believe the Pirates in 1977 just may have worn ALL 72 combos during the course of the season. Recall that in 1977, doubleheaders were still a bit plentiful. I attended several in 3 Rivers that year, and in each, the Bucs tweaked at least one uni accessory in each. Also, the Bucs seemingly had no regard to a specific “home” or “road” uni. Anything went in 1977.

    By 1978, some combos weren’t seen as much. In 1979, it had been narrowed even more as “pins” were not worn on the road at all, and by 1980, it was pretty much down to 5 combos and the “pins” were gone.

  • interlockingtc | July 23, 2008 at 7:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”281472″]Worst Uniform Ever.

    http://lieve.blog.ka...

    SB[/quote]
    I disagree. I think they look fantastic.

    Pop! Minimal, yet bold, interesting composition. Original, for a sports club. What’s not to like here?

  • Johnny O | July 23, 2008 at 8:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”281564″][quote comment=”281507″][quote comment=”281463″]Whats with the Brewers untucking their jerseys after each win lately? http://sports.espn.g...

    GO BREWERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Cubbies are coming down from first tonite![/quote]

    … except the worst they’ll be is tied for first.[/quote]

    considering they are 1 game up in first its impossible for them for come down from first today.[/quote]

    This team unity thing started around June 1st when the Crew were in the middle of winning 8 of 9 home games versus Atlanta, Houston, and Arizona. I am not sure who exactly started it on the team, but they have been doing it ever since. Does it look sloppy? Yes. But as long as they keep winning, I could care more.

  • =bg= | July 23, 2008 at 8:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”281575″][quote comment=”281573″][quote comment=”281555″]re: Lennie Moore, tape on shoes, et al.
    http://farm4.static....

    That was first time I new about stickum, too. On Moore’s taped shoes, that is.

    Now, speaking of that…if anyone cares, LOL…tonight I will scan and send to Paul the oldest photo I’ve seen of a football player (pro or college) with his shoes taped.

    Maybe it’s been seen here before. Guess I’ll find out.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ok, I’m lost. Can anybody tell me why you would want stickum on your shoes? Im obviously missing something.

    SB[/quote]

    My best guess: You want it on your fingers. He stored it on his shoes so he could reload his hands without coming off the field.[/quote]

    Like Lester Hayes! He was like human crazy glue.

  • S. Bennett | July 23, 2008 at 8:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”281579″][quote comment=”281472″]Worst Uniform Ever.

    http://lieve.blog.ka...

    SB[/quote]
    I disagree. I think they look fantastic.

    Pop! Minimal, yet bold, interesting composition. Original, for a sports club. What’s not to like here?[/quote]

    Other than the vertigo-inducing design and ultra-cheesy co-ordinated boots? Not much, I guess.

    SB

  • S. Bennett | July 23, 2008 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”281577″][quote comment=”281575″][quote comment=”281573″][quote comment=”281555″]re: Lennie Moore, tape on shoes, et al.
    http://farm4.static....

    That was first time I new about stickum, too. On Moore’s taped shoes, that is.

    Now, speaking of that…if anyone cares, LOL…tonight I will scan and send to Paul the oldest photo I’ve seen of a football player (pro or college) with his shoes taped.

    Maybe it’s been seen here before. Guess I’ll find out.

    –Ricko[/quote]

    Ok, I’m lost. Can anybody tell me why you would want stickum on your shoes? Im obviously missing something.

    SB[/quote]

    My best guess: You want it on your fingers. He stored it on his shoes so he could reload his hands without coming off the field.[/quote]

    Yup, same reason Fred Biletnikoff had it on his socks on the front of his ankles. Could “reload” in the huddle.[/quote]

    Ok. That makes sense.

    SB

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 9:05 pm |

    mets all ac/dc tonight, after dropping ONE game all month in the snow whites & baby blues…

    jesus, i hope that don’t start pulling a rockies 07 on us (although if they win 10 straight in the black, i can forgive them)

    /well…no, i can’t, but it won’t be as bad

  • Joe D | July 23, 2008 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”281525″]link didnt work

    1962 Steelers Uniforms[/quote]

    Sorry if I’m getting too nit-picky, BUT in 1962 the logo said “Steel” and the 75th anniversary uniforms said “Steelers.” Also the ’62 uniform had a gray facemask and the throwback was black.

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 9:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”281585″][quote comment=”281525″]link didnt work

    1962 Steelers Uniforms[/quote]

    Sorry if I’m getting too nit-picky, BUT in 1962 the logo said “Steel” and the 75th anniversary uniforms said “Steelers.” Also the ’62 uniform had a gray facemask and the throwback was black.[/quote]

    Yes, indeed, Steelers borrowed the US Steel Company logo at first. Probably the one and only instance in NFL history of a corporate logo on a uniform (other than a manufacturer, of course).

    Oh, no, now they can cite “precedent” and go the Arena League/NFL Europe route.

  • Nicole | July 23, 2008 at 9:48 pm |

    So they finally explained during tonight’s broadcast why the Brewers untuck their shirts after a win …

    Apparently Mike Cameron started it as a tribute to his dad. When his dad came home from a hard days’ work the first thing he’d do is untuck his shirt and kick off his shoes.

    The rest of the team thought it was a nice gesture and picked it up, so they do it as a tribute to their dads. They can’t exactly kick off their shoes, but if they win, they untuck their jerseys.

    Kind of like “We came out and got the job. Good day’s work, time to go relax.”

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”281587″]So they finally explained during tonight’s broadcast why the Brewers untuck their shirts after a win …

    Apparently Mike Cameron started it as a tribute to his dad. When his dad came home from a hard days’ work the first thing he’d do is untuck his shirt and kick off his shoes.

    The rest of the team thought it was a nice gesture and picked it up, so they do it as a tribute to their dads. They can’t exactly kick off their shoes, but if they win, they untuck their jerseys.

    Kind of like “We came out and got the job. Good day’s work, time to go relax.”[/quote]

    so…it’s kinda like this then?

  • Nicole | July 23, 2008 at 10:02 pm |

    YES! And therefore incredibly classy.

    It’s still a sloppy look, but I’m happy there’s a reason/story behind it and not just the guys being stupid or superstitious.

  • Johnny O | July 23, 2008 at 10:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”281587″]So they finally explained during tonight’s broadcast why the Brewers untuck their shirts after a win …

    Apparently Mike Cameron started it as a tribute to his dad. When his dad came home from a hard days’ work the first thing he’d do is untuck his shirt and kick off his shoes.

    The rest of the team thought it was a nice gesture and picked it up, so they do it as a tribute to their dads. They can’t exactly kick off their shoes, but if they win, they untuck their jerseys.

    Kind of like “We came out and got the job. Good day’s work, time to go relax.”[/quote]

    I knew you would beat me to writing this explanation Nicole… well done. I am also glad there is a reasoning behind doing it. And Brain Anderson also stated that Cameron said he “means no disrespect by it” which I am guessing he means he isn’t trying to look “ghetto” or it isn’t a “gang thing”. I don’t know, maybe I am reading too much into that statement or something. Why would he say “I mean no disrespect by it” though? Any other thoughts?

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”281590″][quote comment=”281587″]So they finally explained during tonight’s broadcast why the Brewers untuck their shirts after a win …

    Apparently Mike Cameron started it as a tribute to his dad. When his dad came home from a hard days’ work the first thing he’d do is untuck his shirt and kick off his shoes.

    The rest of the team thought it was a nice gesture and picked it up, so they do it as a tribute to their dads. They can’t exactly kick off their shoes, but if they win, they untuck their jerseys.

    Kind of like “We came out and got the job. Good day’s work, time to go relax.”[/quote]

    I knew you would beat me to writing this explanation Nicole… well done. I am also glad there is a reasoning behind doing it. And Brain Anderson also stated that Cameron said he “means no disrespect by it” which I am guessing he means he isn’t trying to look “ghetto” or it isn’t a “gang thing”. I don’t know, maybe I am reading too much into that statement or something. Why would he say “I mean no disrespect by it” though? Any other thoughts?[/quote]

    Is he saying they aren’t showing up the other team, just celebrating–as he said–a good day’s work? That it shouldn’t be taken as some kind of streeet thing?

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 10:29 pm |

    [quote]Cameron said he “means no disrespect by it” which I am guessing he means he isn’t trying to look “ghetto” or it isn’t a “gang thing”. I don’t know, maybe I am reading too much into that statement or something. Why would he say “I mean no disrespect by it” though? Any other thoughts? [/quote]

    i will tell you EXACTLY what he means…

    despite the goofy grin, the cap sideways, the unkempt uni…

    at least in his time with the mets, cammy was a total class act…it really hurt him when we got beltran (i think he really thought he’d be trolling the bowels of shea playing center forever here)…he never (to my knowledge) refused an interview, was good to the fans, and busted his ass…

    so what did he mean???

    no disrespect to the uniform

    because that’s the guy he is…you’re lucky to have him

    …………..

    i HATE HATE HATE the look (see also: reyes, jose)…but if cammy started it, then i can at least accept its a crew thing and a nice trib to his pops

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 10:35 pm |

    oh…one more thing…

    i bet you couldn’t trade cammy straight up for junior now…cincy would need to throw in a arm

  • Patrick S. | July 23, 2008 at 10:39 pm |

    Awesome photo of the major leaguers in Japan. I have recently become enamored of pillbox caps for some unknown reason. Mid-life crisis perhaps? So odd to see Lopez of the Tigers on there but I loved the giant orange olde English D on his jacket! Also appears that everyone is either wearing a jacket or a windbreaker underneath their jersey.

    /off to shop for pillbox caps

  • Ricko | July 23, 2008 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”281592″][quote]Cameron said he “means no disrespect by it” which I am guessing he means he isn’t trying to look “ghetto” or it isn’t a “gang thing”. I don’t know, maybe I am reading too much into that statement or something. Why would he say “I mean no disrespect by it” though? Any other thoughts? [/quote]

    i will tell you EXACTLY what he means…

    despite the goofy grin, the cap sideways, the unkempt uni…

    at least in his time with the mets, cammy was a total class act…it really hurt him when we got beltran (i think he really thought he’d be trolling the bowels of shea playing center forever here)…he never (to my knowledge) refused an interview, was good to the fans, and busted his ass…

    so what did he mean???

    no disrespect to the uniform

    because that’s the guy he is…you’re lucky to have him

    …………..

    i HATE HATE HATE the look (see also: reyes, jose)…but if cammy started it, then i can at least accept its a crew thing and a nice trib to his pops[/quote]

    There you go. Had always heard Cameron was a class act.

  • Max | July 23, 2008 at 11:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”281400″][quote comment=”281399″]I didn’t know that the Detroit Tigers also wore pillbox hats. Look at the player standing behind Ted Williams…[/quote]

    Looks like Aurelio Lopez… it is odd to see him in a pillbox, assuming that’s a Tiger cap.[/quote]

    That is Roger Craig. Not Ted Williams.

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:18 pm |

    btw…i thought i remembered this

    cammy untucked with the mets

    …note jose reyes…who STILL does this after each win

  • Pat | July 23, 2008 at 11:23 pm |

    OT: Pop quiz hotshots. Look at the Centennial patch on this jersey on ebay. What is wrong with it?

  • BurghFan | July 23, 2008 at 11:24 pm |

    Yes, indeed, Steelers borrowed the US Steel Company logo at first. Probably the one and only instance in NFL history of a corporate logo on a uniform (other than a manufacturer, of course).

    It’s actually the steelmark, which represents steel as a product, rather than US Steel (whose logo has been “USS” in a circle for several decades). Lots of info here:

    http://news.steelers...

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:26 pm |
  • Pat | July 23, 2008 at 11:27 pm |

    I fail.

    linkage

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:29 pm |

    here’s

    some more pics of cammy untucked

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:35 pm |

    and just for good measure

    cammy untucked with the m’s

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”281598″]OT: Pop quiz hotshots. Look at the Centennial patch on this jersey on ebay. What is wrong with it? [/quote]

    1839-1839?

  • Pat | July 23, 2008 at 11:45 pm |

    1839-1839

    That’s what I saw. What do you think is up with that?

  • LI Phil | July 23, 2008 at 11:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”281605″]1839-1839

    That’s what I saw. What do you think is up with that?[/quote]

    um…it’s wrong?

  • todder85 | July 24, 2008 at 1:26 am |

    Jays/O’s game was suspended because of rain, i wonder if they’ll be wearing their throwbacks when play resumes next.

  • Husul | July 24, 2008 at 2:07 am |

    The Throwbacks are nice , but even though Buffalo wore this: http://www.geocities...

    …the initial presentation was the current White Retro, but Buffalo went reverse so as not to confuse the quarterbacks. The Picture shown in the slide show was never presented by the league or the team.

  • Husul | July 24, 2008 at 2:10 am |

    [quote comment=”281608″]The Throwbacks are nice , but even though Buffalo wore this: http://www.geocities...

    …the initial presentation was the current White Retro, but Buffalo went reverse so as not to confuse the quarterbacks. The Picture shown in the slide show was never presented by the league or the team.[/quote]

    BTW, I’m referring to the helmets

  • LI Matt | July 24, 2008 at 4:27 am |

    … Becks behind him in a long sleeve shirt…the field temp was like 120 degrees that day

    Beckham wears long sleeves every game — it’s a superstition.

  • Chad Oz | July 24, 2008 at 8:30 am |

    Interesting news on the New York Jets Web site about the team’s uniforms for the coming season. The Jets will again wear New York Titans throwback unis twice this year, including the home opener against the hated Patritos. The J-E-T-S also will sport a commemorative 40th anniversary Super Bowl III patch on their jerseys during an Oct. 26 home game against the Chiefs.

    Here’s the full article: http://www.newyorkje...

    The article also notes that the Jets Flight Crew will “debut their Marc Ecko-designed unis on the 14th,” the home opener. I don’t know about you, but I can’t wait to see the asterisks on those Flight Crew unis.

    Thank you! I’ll be here all week.

  • Geeman | July 24, 2008 at 8:40 am |

    [quote comment=”281572″]On a June Friday night in 1977, the Pirates wore pinstripes at Shea Stadium.

    According to Retrosheet, the Pirates were in New York April 22 and 23, July 15-17 (doubleheaders on the 15th and 17th), and September 20 and 21. If July 15 was Friday, they could have worked in the white as part of the 5 game series, but the Bucs weren’t at Shea in June.[/quote]
    My bad. Must have been July instead of June. But I bet it was July 15. Let’s check the record. I remember my father complaining about it.

  • Joe Hilseberg | July 24, 2008 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”281607″]Jays/O’s game was suspended because of rain, i wonder if they’ll be wearing their throwbacks when play resumes next.[/quote]

    They went back to the current uni’s.