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Uni Watch Stirrups of the Week

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It was hot in NYC yesterday. Like, really hot. So hot you could feel your eyeballs perspiring and your nuts liquefying. So hot you could break a serious sweat just by breathing. Plenty humid, too. Very, very muggy. Did I mention it was hot?

So I confess that I questioned the wisdom of wearing a second set of hosiery yesterday. Still, the notion of playing softball without stirrups was unthinkable, so it was time for another rummage through the Uni Watch sock drawer.

This week’s design: royal blue, medium-cut.

Ideal for feeling like a member of: According to reader Paul Wiederecht, who gave me these stirrups a while back, these hose were originally the property of the 1978 Mets.

Color-coordination factor: Easy.

How they looked: Not too shabby, right? Nice and bright, with a pretty perfect color-to-white ratio (and yes, I know there’s a hole in the back of that tee, but I’ve had it since 1989 and have lived with a variety of cats in that time — rips and tears happen).

How I felt: Like Craig Swan, who was the N.L. ERA leader in ’78 and had pretty nice stirrup stylings.

How I played: 1-for-4 and a run scored. Did I mention it was really, really hot?

Before I went home, I noticed a gal on an adjacent field wearing these awesome hoop socks. Not a bad one-sock option for a hot day.

(Special thanks to Collateral Gammage for the pics.)

Research Project: Next time you see a home plate ump “cleaning” the plate by kicking the dirt off of it, instead of bending over and using his whisk brush, please make a note of the date, inning, and batter, and then let me know. Thanks.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Pin-up artist extraordinaire Rob Ullman created this 1969 Chisox rendition for Uni Watch reader Maks, and threw in a modern version to boot! … Rob, incidentally, is now offering a line of T-shirts. If you’re interested in them, and/or want to have Rob create a pin-up illo for you, contact him here. … Last question in this interview with Dwight Smith addresses his sock superstitions. … The annual Oldtime Baseball Game, a charity matchup in which Boston-area college players wear classic flannels, is coming up next month. Details here. … A little birdie tells me Texas Tech’s men’s basketball program will be outfitted by Under Armour this season. … Speaking of Texas Tech, Jon Arnold sent along this. “It’s only a replica, and I can only find it at one store, but it shows a white collar on Tech’s black jersey,” he says. “In the past it has been black, like the rest of the jersey.” … My pal Friederike Paetzold sent along some pics of artwork by a guy named Brian Jungen, who makes Native American/tribal-inspired pieces out of Air Jordans (additional examples here, here, and here). If you want to see more, check out Jungen’s site. … Here’s Babe Ruth in a different sort of uniform (with thanks to Jim Nedelka). … The Temple “T” logo is celebrating its 25th anniversary (with thanks to Morris Levin). … The Mariners and Indians wore 1989 throwbacks on Saturday. Additional pics here, here, here, here, and here. … Meanwhile, the White Sox wore throwbacks yesterday in honor of Harold Baines (additional pics here, here, here, here, and here). … God I hate it when teams wear BP jerseys for a regular-season game, as the Orioles did yesterday. … Miguel Cabrera is still wearing those Phiten-branded socks. Someone in the MLB office, please make this stop, now … Too bad I can’t afford this awesome-looking uniform catalog. … A-Rod had some helmet decal issues yesterday. … And Tim Lincecum had tag issues (thanks, Brinke). … Who does these stirrups belong to? Giants pitcher Geno Espineli, who tossed a scoreless frame yesterday in his MLB debut yesterday, that’s who. Let’s all wish him continued success (with thanks to Matt Garcia). … “I used to be a student equipment manager at the Univ. of Minnesota, with the football team,” writes Tris Wykes. “The Buffalo Bills trained at our complex when they were in Minnesota for the Super Bowl vs. the Redskins. One night, I went in and tried on Mark Kelso’s enormous helmet — the one with the ProCap on it.” … Last week I linked to the NYC Diamond Jubilee patch that the Mets wore on their dugout jackets in 1973. That prompted this response from Alec Orenstein: “The patch lists all the boroughs of New York, but Staten Island is listed as Richmond. That’s fine, because Staten Island is Richmond County. But following that logic, Brooklyn should be listed as Kings, because Brooklyn is Kings County. But instead it simply says Brooklyn.” … Hilarious account here of American synchro swimmer Christina Jones behaving like a materialistic moron getting lots of free Olympic swag. Key quote, from an on-site photo assistant: “We definitely want the Nike logo to show.’’ Of course you do (with thanks once again to Brinke Guthrie). … Sage Bray participates in one of those “vintage base ball” leagues where everyone dresses in period costume (there’s a full photo gallery here). “One element you may particularly dig, although it may not be historically accurate, is that we wear white jersey lacing for home games and black lacing for road games,” he says. “I believe we’re the only team in the league with any sort of home/road uni distinction.” … Remember this shirt? The guy who makes them says he has a new batch in stock (plus he has this design in the works). If you want in, give him a shout and tell him I sent ya. … Uni-numerical mystery from Matt Walker, who notes that the Longhorns are retiring a bunch of numbers, including No. 22 for Bobby Layne. Thing is, Layne wore 22 in the NFL but, as Matt writes, “the only number I’ve ever known him to wear as a Longhorn is 41.” Anyone know more about this? … David Holland sent along lots of great Baltimore Bullets-related stuff. First, dig the classic old logo on Gus Johnson’s jersey. Next, check out this team photo and note that half the players have an older logo (capital B) and the other half have the newfangled one (lowercase b, outstretched hands on the double-l). And how can you not love this, this, this, and this? … Several readers are reporting that Lou Piniella’s jersey featured his All-Star Game sleeve patch yesterday. No photo yet, though. … This is beyond awesome (great find by John Muir). … Best baseball outerwear photo ever? Could be. That’s Ernie Shore in the plaid coat and Grover Cleveland Alexander in the sweater (big thanks to Bob Andrews). … Two interesting tidbits from Jim Parker, beginning with a UCLA tale: “In the mid- to late 1950s, UCLA’s legendary head football coach Henry ‘Red’ Sanders would purchase the team’s home powder blue jerseys in a lighter shade of blue each successive season, until they were almost as pale as the visiting teams white jerseys (although the jerseys were still blue enough for players and fans to tell the two teams apart). Several years later, UCLA’s longtime equipment manager revealed why: Players and fans could tell the two teams apart, but it was virtually impossible to make the same distinction on the black-and-white game or ‘scout’ films. In these films of the UCLA games, the offense and defense immediately blended into one indistinguishable group after every hike of the ball.” Next up from Jim, a little noted NFL factoid: “This is somehow a well-kept secret and oddity among most uni experts, but in 1949, at the owner’s insistence, the L.A. Rams wore red unis, complete with a red helmet. They lost in the NFL championship to the Eagles that year and went back to their traditional blues the following season.” … Remember those basketball capes I recently showed? Ryan Priest sent along this 1964 Evansville shot. “As you can see,” he writes, “unlike the capes you featured, these are robes with sleeves. (It was Evansville after all. Everything had sleeves.) ccording to an e-mail I received from UE Athletic Equipment Manager Daryl Buente, ‘Coach McCutchan’s team always wore pullover warmup jackets during pregame warmups and full-length robes, with snaps all the way down, on the bench. Until 1968, there were robes of many colors: red, green, yellow, light blue, and gray. In the ’50s, the robes were two solid colors, white and purple. When I was a freshman in fall 1968, Coach McCutchan bought orange robes and kept them until he retired in ’77.’ He went on to tell me that he gave Jerry Sloan the last robe in his possession (a gray one) upon his retirement as a player.”

 

257 comments to Uni Watch Stirrups of the Week

  • Justin | July 21, 2008 at 8:58 am |

    Paul, any word on if the Sixers are going to end up reverting to throwbacks this year?

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    Thing of beauty

    http://images.sports...

    God Awlful

    http://images.sports...

    I watched the DET/BAL game over the weekend and kept getting distracted by how awlful those things looked and lost track of what was going on in the game. Also was distracted by Millar’s stupid eye paint and wanted to reach though my TV and punch him…

  • who cares | July 21, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    Here’s a history of the #1 fan hand.

    http://www.designboo...

  • Ken | July 21, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    The Orioles are desperate to find something to help them break their now 15-consecutive-game Sunday losing streak. I agree that the current BP jerseys look godawful for pretty much every team, and the O’s are no exception. We may see something equally interesting next week.

  • Jonathan Sluss | July 21, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    Virginia Tech made their new uniforms official at the ACC Meetings in Greensboro, GA. Here’s a photo of Sean Glennon and Orion Martin modeling the jerseys:
    http://www.hokiespor...

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    [quote]How I felt: Like Craig Swan (who I can’t find a good photo of at the moment, but he was the N.L. ERA leader in ’78, and I recall him having pretty good stirrup stylings).[/quote]

    not a great photo…but good recall paul

    …best stirrups yet ;)

  • Hurnf | July 21, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    Regarding the old Capitol Bullets:

    1) Is it my imagination, or is Kevin Porter wearing the road top and the home shorts on the Topps card in the fourth link?

    2) Did the Capitol Bullets ever wear the road tops and home shorts in 1973-74? Because I’d like to see that.

    3) When the Wizards wore those throwbacks two years ago, I was disappointed that the NBA didn’t make the shorts that went along with them. Those would have been hawt.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”280955″]Virginia Tech made their new uniforms official at the ACC Meetings in Greensboro, GA. Here’s a photo of Sean Glennon and Orion Martin modeling the jerseys:
    http://www.hokiespor...

    is the NOB of glennon’s jersey in masking tape and sharpie?

  • Glenn | July 21, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    I’m not quite sure what it is, but something tells me this kid’s shirt isn’t authentic

  • Glenn | July 21, 2008 at 9:18 am |
  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”280959″]I’m not quite sure what it is, but something tells me this kid’s shirt isn’t authentic

    [/quote]

    here

  • Glenn | July 21, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    damn HTML……I’ll figure it out

  • DJ | July 21, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous

    2- Paul I’m not trying to call you out, but for as much as you hate the Mets in any black/blue combination, you were pretty much sporting that combo at your softball game! No Ditching the Black for you?

  • Glenn | July 21, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    Thanks Phil, HTML isn’t my strong point obviously

  • Joe Hilseberg | July 21, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?

  • Art | July 21, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    I wonder if British open winner PADRAIG HARRINGTON will use his winnings to buy a sweater that might actually fit him?????????????

  • Billy | July 21, 2008 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”280965″]Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?[/quote]
    I will be there!

    Gotta get a ’83 Champs pennant!

  • Jeff | July 21, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants! They’re more comfortable, allow you to slide, and will look much, much better …

  • scott | July 21, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    Geno Espineli has been wearing the stirrups like that for quite a while, even while toiling for the Connecticut Defenders. Wonder what prompted him initially to do so.

  • Robert | July 21, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    I may be losing my mind, but on some players at certain angles, those White Sox throwbacks look damn sharp.

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    The bagginess works with the pullovers and the pants that are hiked up to an appropriate height.

  • Paul Lukas | July 21, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.

  • Nicole | July 21, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    Hey, I posted those Geno Espineli stirrups in yesterday’s comments as they happened!

    Just kidding…

    I find the Air Jordan artwork both gratifying and disturbing!

  • chance | July 21, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    About that Mets patch – the borough of Staten Island’s name was officially “Richmond” until 1975, when the island’s name was adopted as the borough’s name.

    So the patch was accurate at the time, but would become a historical relic two years later.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”280958″][quote comment=”280955″]Virginia Tech made their new uniforms official at the ACC Meetings in Greensboro, GA. Here’s a photo of Sean Glennon and Orion Martin modeling the jerseys:
    http://www.hokiespor...

    is the NOB of glennon’s jersey in masking tape and sharpie?[/quote]

    Vulcan, Phil!
    http://www.collegiat...

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    Tidbits:

    1. The AIr Jordan inspired art:
    A. Must be very expensive to create
    B. Are not all (solely)Air Jordan or
    Jordan Brand, since there is a visible
    swoosh. Air Jordans and Jordan Brand ceased
    withe the swoosh circa 1996

    http://farm4.static....

    2. This may be a bit weird but Rob Ullman’s pinups are hot

    3. Ichiro wears the throwback uni the way it’s supposed to be worn!

    http://images.sports...

    4. This picture is CLASSIC!

    http://farm4.static....

  • Tim | July 21, 2008 at 10:02 am |

    RE: 89 Indians Throwbacks.

    Anyone know if a site like Jersey-Joe or another will offer replicas for sale?

    Those were beautiful…..

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    Are they in a bathroom? Why are the hand dryers so high up on the wall?

    http://farm4.static....

  • Dave Rohr | July 21, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    “A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever!

  • Marty Met | July 21, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.

    BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?

    This how I always prefered stirrups.
    http://www.speakingo...

  • Rick | July 21, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    RE: Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?

    I will be there. Can’t beat the $5.50 upper deck seats.

    I actually liked the orange jerseys they wore on Sunday. They had to do something to break this Sunday losing streak. It’s the first time they have worn them during a regular season game. I actually liked the orange better than their black jerseys they were on Friday.

  • interlockingtc | July 21, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    There can be no argument: That Bullets uniform with the thick, swerving striping is the coolest basketball uniform of all-time.

    Man.

  • Leo | July 21, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    It’s a stellar AFL or WNBA name. It might even make it as a passable MLS name.

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    I know I’m a day late with this but I wanted to share an opinion on something anyway. Apologies if this was already addressed, but with the smoking athletes photos, I think there is a big difference between shots of athletes smoking cigars and cigarettes.

    Cigars are commonplace on golf courses among smokers and otherwise non-smokers alike. Also, the victory cigar is a big part of sports lure.

    However, cigarettes for the most part of the 20th century (post-Tobacco cards ear) and for all of the 21st century, are somewhat taboo for athletes.

    Cigars are more social while cigarettes are more habit forming.

    Take it from an ex-tobacco user (been tobacco free nearly six years), when I was playing baseball in high school and college I was a user of both chewing tobacco and cigarettes. While I was perfectly confident in chewing while on the field, I smoked in privacy and always hid it from as many as possible.

    I think it’s more of an oddity to see a modern athlete smoking a cigarette than smoking a cigar.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.

    BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?

    This how I always prefered stirrups.
    http://www.speakingo...

    go see the craig swan pic (post #6)…i think that’s the look PL was going for

    it’s funny, ya know…i never liked the reds “shorter” stirrups at the time the rest of MLB was sporting this or higher…but…seeing what baseball has come to today, i’ll take ANY stirrup, including the BRM look of the 70s

  • werthj | July 21, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”280977″]RE: 89 Indians Throwbacks.

    Anyone know if a site like Jersey-Joe or another will offer replicas for sale?

    Those were beautiful…..[/quote]

    I already sent a communique to J-J. I’ll let you know the response.

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.

    Worse (or just as bad) names:

    Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)

    Tampa Rays
    Florida Marlins
    Colorado Rockies

    Houston Texans
    Miami Dolphins

    Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
    Miami Heat
    Utah Jazz
    Orlando Magic

  • Paul Lukas | July 21, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.[/quote]

    They’re not black. They’re navy.

    [quote comment=”280980″]BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?[/quote]

    No.

  • JF in DC | July 21, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]
    I’m just glad they don’t have to play the Tampa Bay Lightning…

  • Joe Hilseberg | July 21, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”280981″]RE: Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?

    I will be there. Can’t beat the $5.50 upper deck seats.

    I actually liked the orange jerseys they wore on Sunday. They had to do something to break this Sunday losing streak. It’s the first time they have worn them during a regular season game. I actually liked the orange better than their black jerseys they were on Friday.[/quote]

    I’ll be in the orange “Roenicke” jersey…say hi if you see me!

    http://photos-c.ak.f...

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”280988″][quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.[/quote]

    They’re not black. They’re navy.

    [quote comment=”280980″]BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?[/quote]

    No.[/quote]
    I’m glad you don’t wear baseball pants at the softball field. I think those people look like dorks.

  • Shane | July 21, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    They can’t be serious… Thunder sounds like the name of a WNBA team.
    What’s the deadline to have the OKC designs in for the contest?

    Still looking for this info:
    1996-97 Sonics throwback unis: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. Also need pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp. (I’ve tried Getty Images with no luck.) Does anyone know for a fact that these were even worn? I’ve seen Kemp replicas on Ebay.

    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. I believe the name was printed and the numbers sewn, but not 100% sure on that.

  • Brad | July 21, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”280965″]Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?[/quote]

    I will be there as well. I wonder if they will use the same throwbacks from the Pirates series when they celebrated the ’79 series. Did the uniforms change at all in those 4 years?

    Speaking of which, the batting helmets they wore that night have been bothering me. The white part of the helmet was just an arch and did not extend to the top of the helmet in a point.

    http://www.baltimore...

    Is this because of the Cool-flo design? Why couldn’t they use old-style helmets? Do teams have a contract with the Cool-flo style that prohibits them from using other types?

  • Marcus from B-More | July 21, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”280981″]RE: Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?

    I will be there. Can’t beat the $5.50 upper deck seats.

    I actually liked the orange jerseys they wore on Sunday. They had to do something to break this Sunday losing streak. It’s the first time they have worn them during a regular season game. I actually liked the orange better than their black jerseys they were on Friday.[/quote]

    i kinda miss the old black jerseys they wore – the ones with the “orioles” outlined in white…..
    http://images.wikia....
    http://images.footba...

    and as a bonus, i’ve always liked this version of dem O’s jersey
    http://www.americanm...

  • Dave | July 21, 2008 at 10:28 am |

    Paul,

    Why no mention of the OKC Thunder in the Ticker?

  • BS | July 21, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”280987″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.

    Worse (or just as bad) names:

    Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)

    Tampa Rays
    Florida Marlins
    Colorado Rockies

    Houston Texans
    Miami Dolphins

    Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
    Miami Heat
    Utah Jazz
    Orlando Magic[/quote]
    I guess I’ll take the liberty of defending some of those names. The Thrashers are named for a bird found a lot in the Southeast and is the state bird of Georgia, the brown thrasher.
    The Lightning is named so because of all the lightning that strikes Florida and their is no real way to pluralize other than calling them the Bolts (which sounds worse to me).
    It’s the Tampa Bay Rays, and it sounded better when they were the Devil Rays.
    As for the rest: lots of marlins/sailfish around Florida; Rockies named for the mountain range; Texans the name of the the Chiefs franchise when they were located in Dallas; lots of dolphins around Florida; and the Jazz was a great name when they were in New Orleans, and should have been left there.

  • CS | July 21, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    Paul,
    Reading the column is a pleasure but I hope that is the last reference to your testicles:

    “So hot you could feel your eyeballs perspiring and your nuts liquefying”

    Thank you.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”280991″][quote comment=”280988″][quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.[/quote]

    They’re not black. They’re navy.

    [quote comment=”280980″]BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?[/quote]

    No.[/quote]
    I’m glad you don’t wear baseball pants at the softball field. I think those people look like dorks.[/quote]

    I resent that, Kek!

  • War Damn Eagle | July 21, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”280975″][quote comment=”280958″][quote comment=”280955″]Virginia Tech made their new uniforms official at the ACC Meetings in Greensboro, GA. Here’s a photo of Sean Glennon and Orion Martin modeling the jerseys:
    http://www.hokiespor...

    is the NOB of glennon’s jersey in masking tape and sharpie?[/quote]

    Vulcan, Phil!
    http://www.collegiat...

    I don’t think anyone will want to steal those new Va Tech jerseys. Worst. uniforms. ever.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”280993″][quote comment=”280965″]Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?[/quote]

    I will be there as well. I wonder if they will use the same throwbacks from the Pirates series when they celebrated the ’79 series. Did the uniforms change at all in those 4 years?

    Speaking of which, the batting helmets they wore that night have been bothering me. The white part of the helmet was just an arch and did not extend to the top of the helmet in a point.

    http://www.baltimore...

    Is this because of the Cool-flo design? Why couldn’t they use old-style helmets? Do teams have a contract with the Cool-flo style that prohibits them from using other types?[/quote]

    The Cool-Flo and the “older” style are both made by Rawlings, so I don;’t imagine that there would be a problem!

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”280996″][quote comment=”280987″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.

    Worse (or just as bad) names:

    Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)

    Tampa Rays
    Florida Marlins
    Colorado Rockies

    Houston Texans
    Miami Dolphins

    Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
    Miami Heat
    Utah Jazz
    Orlando Magic[/quote]
    I guess I’ll take the liberty of defending some of those names. The Thrashers are named for a bird found a lot in the Southeast and is the state bird of Georgia, the brown thrasher.
    The Lightning is named so because of all the lightning that strikes Florida and their is no real way to pluralize other than calling them the Bolts (which sounds worse to me).
    It’s the Tampa Bay Rays, and it sounded better when they were the Devil Rays.
    As for the rest: lots of marlins/sailfish around Florida; Rockies named for the mountain range; Texans the name of the the Chiefs franchise when they were located in Dallas; lots of dolphins around Florida; and the Jazz was a great name when they were in New Orleans, and should have been left there.[/quote]

    I know WHY they are named what they’re named, I’m just saying that they are bad names in general.

  • Paul Lukas | July 21, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”280995″]Paul,

    Why no mention of the OKC Thunder in the Ticker?[/quote]

    1) So far it’s a rumor.

    2) No uni or logo yet, so it’s not really Uni Watch news for now.

    3) I love it when people say, “How come you didn’t mention [this thing I already know about]?” If you already know about it, why do you care whether I mentioned it?

  • josh | July 21, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”280993″][quote comment=”280965″]Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?[/quote]

    I will be there as well. I wonder if they will use the same throwbacks from the Pirates series when they celebrated the ’79 series. Did the uniforms change at all in those 4 years?

    Speaking of which, the batting helmets they wore that night have been bothering me. The white part of the helmet was just an arch and did not extend to the top of the helmet in a point.

    http://www.baltimore...

    Is this because of the Cool-flo design? Why couldn’t they use old-style helmets? Do teams have a contract with the Cool-flo style that prohibits them from using other types?[/quote]

    The road jerseys had changed. In ’79 they still had the varsity numbers and vertically arched NOBs on the road. By ’83, they had serif numbers and radially arched NOBs, just like at home.

  • BS | July 21, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”280992″]They can’t be serious… Thunder sounds like the name of a WNBA team.
    What’s the deadline to have the OKC designs in for the contest?

    Still looking for this info:
    1996-97 Sonics throwback unis: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. Also need pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp. (I’ve tried Getty Images with no luck.) Does anyone know for a fact that these were even worn? I’ve seen Kemp replicas on Ebay.

    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. I believe the name was printed and the numbers sewn, but not 100% sure on that.[/quote]
    Google Images solves all your Shawn Kemp-related problems.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote]Reading the column is a pleasure but I hope that is the last reference to your testicles[/quote]

    now that’s something you don’t hear every day

  • Matt Takimoto | July 21, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    in regards to texas’ number retirements, i’m more concerned that they’re retiring kevin durant’s number after one season of basketball that he only played because of the stupid nba age rule. and it’s not like they won the championship that year either, or even got close. they lost in the second round of the ncaa tournament.

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”280998″][quote comment=”280991″][quote comment=”280988″][quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.[/quote]

    They’re not black. They’re navy.

    [quote comment=”280980″]BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?[/quote]

    No.[/quote]
    I’m glad you don’t wear baseball pants at the softball field. I think those people look like dorks.[/quote]

    I resent that, Kek![/quote]

    When I play Fall Softball, I plan on wearing pinstriped pants, stirrups, and an old baseball jersey I can find from Salvation Army. But then again, my plan is to look like a dork.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”280955″]Virginia Tech made their new uniforms official at the ACC Meetings in Greensboro, GA. Here’s a photo of Sean Glennon and Orion Martin modeling the jerseys:
    http://www.hokiespor...

    Where is Orion’s Belt?

  • War Damn Eagle | July 21, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Thunder? That is so minor league it’s unbelievable. You call an arena football team the Thunder. A USL soccer team chooses a nickname like Thunder. Minor league hockey is a place for Thunder. The National Basketball Association – not a place for a team name like Thunder. Hey Oklahoma City, you’ve been Thunderstruck. And that’s not a good thing.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”281004″][quote comment=”280992″]They can’t be serious… Thunder sounds like the name of a WNBA team.
    What’s the deadline to have the OKC designs in for the contest?

    Still looking for this info:
    1996-97 Sonics throwback unis: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. Also need pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp. (I’ve tried Getty Images with no luck.) Does anyone know for a fact that these were even worn? I’ve seen Kemp replicas on Ebay.

    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. I believe the name was printed and the numbers sewn, but not 100% sure on that.[/quote]
    Google Images solves all your Shawn Kemp-related problems.[/quote]

    So would a urologist!

  • Jeff | July 21, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    In yesterday’s Sox/KC game, Joe Crede was wearing Toby Hall’s helmet (have to look close, but it’s a 44 on the brim):

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”280991″][quote comment=”280988″][quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.[/quote]

    They’re not black. They’re navy.

    [quote comment=”280980″]BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?[/quote]

    No.[/quote]
    I’m glad you don’t wear baseball pants at the softball field. I think those people look like dorks.[/quote]

    Depends on competitive level, I think. I’ve played in tournaments all through Midwest and West, and in Florida. Almost all players in long pants except when especially hot. Plus, some guys who have played a lot of ball are just more comfortable in baseball pants…and, of course, if you have sponsor who paid for them, then you ought to wear them.

    Other times, kinda depends on whether you’re having fun with it. The guys on my casual teams have a good time figuring out what team I’m wearing (when I’m in the mood to do a “throwback”). Gets to be kind of a trivia contest for those not so attuned to unis.

    One guy once said, “Y’know, this’d be really dull if it wasn’t for you.”

    Ah, the joy of being the Eccentric in the group.

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”280998″][quote comment=”280991″][quote comment=”280988″][quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.[/quote]

    They’re not black. They’re navy.

    [quote comment=”280980″]BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?[/quote]

    No.[/quote]
    I’m glad you don’t wear baseball pants at the softball field. I think those people look like dorks.[/quote]

    I resent that, Kek![/quote]
    Sorry! I’m calling like I’ve seen it from my time playing. I’ve got no problem with it if you’re in a league of fully-uniformed teams. However, for my tastes that’s taking it WAY too seriously. I’ve always been a shorts/t-shirt league kind of guy. When you play in those leagues, it’s just funny to me to me to see folks in full-out baseball garb.

    One league I played in was when I worked at a store in the mall and it was a league of mall stores (so we played all our games Sunday evening which was cool). Our district manager used to wear white baseball pants, white socks with NO stirrups and white sneakers!!!! We used to have to mutter under our breath because we couldn’t rip on the guy to his face!

  • josh | July 21, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”281011″]In yesterday’s Sox/KC game, Joe Crede was wearing Toby Hall’s helmet (have to look close, but it’s a 44 on the brim):

    http://assets.espn.g...

    It was Tom Paciorek’s

  • Marty Met | July 21, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=\”280985\”][quote comment=\”280980\”][quote comment=\”280971\”][quote comment=\”280968\”]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here\’s the thing: I\’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I\’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball\’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.

    BTW Not to be picky, but don\’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?

    This how I always prefered stirrups.
    http://www.speakingo...

    go see the craig swan pic (post #6)…i think that\’s the look PL was going for

    it\’s funny, ya know…i never liked the reds \”shorter\” stirrups at the time the rest of MLB was sporting this or higher…but…seeing what baseball has come to today, i\’ll take ANY stirrup, including the BRM look of the 70s[/quote]

    I hated the Reds, especially from June 15, 1977 on. But I loved the way they wore their stirrups. That is the proper way.

    The way Paul is wearing them in the photo above is how Frank Robinson started wearing them with the Orioles and they just got worse after that until you got to the Keith Hernandez school of a pencil thin stirrup.

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”281007″][quote comment=”280998″][quote comment=”280991″][quote comment=”280988″][quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.[/quote]

    They’re not black. They’re navy.

    [quote comment=”280980″]BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?[/quote]

    No.[/quote]
    I’m glad you don’t wear baseball pants at the softball field. I think those people look like dorks.[/quote]

    I resent that, Kek![/quote]

    When I play Fall Softball, I plan on wearing pinstriped pants, stirrups, and an old baseball jersey I can find from Salvation Army. But then again, my plan is to look like a dork.[/quote]
    Then you, sir, will accomplish your goal!!!!

    Seriously though, I’m curious, when you talk about getting something at the Salvation Army how old of a jersey do you normally find? Are there really old, vintage type jerseys out there (pre-double knit I guess) or is it just junk from the 70s and 80s?

  • Robert | July 21, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.

  • Bob Andrews | July 21, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    re: Bobby Layne and #22

    this picture from UT’s football photo gallery shows him wearing #22. I know there is chance that its a pic from his pro days but if it is it’s the only non-college picture in their entire gallery.

  • Bob Andrews | July 21, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    Same Layne #22 pic on Mack Browns site as well. Scroll down.

  • Shane | July 21, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”281004″][quote comment=”280992″]They can’t be serious… Thunder sounds like the name of a WNBA team.
    What’s the deadline to have the OKC designs in for the contest?

    Still looking for this info:
    1996-97 Sonics throwback unis: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. Also need pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp. (I’ve tried Getty Images with no luck.) Does anyone know for a fact that these were even worn? I’ve seen Kemp replicas on Ebay.

    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. I believe the name was printed and the numbers sewn, but not 100% sure on that.[/quote]
    Google Images solves all your Shawn Kemp-related problems.[/quote]

    I’ve tried Google Images… typed in “Shawn Kemp, 1996” and about 7 pages of junk, more pics of basketball cards than game pics.

  • John | July 21, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    Between the All-Star game and yesterday’s Mets-Reds game, I must have had to stop myself at least 59 times from reaching through the TV screen to straighten Edinson Vosquez’s cap. Leave that gangsta crap on the street and respect the UNIFORM. Pokey Reese used to do the same crap. Is this a Cincy thing?

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”281016″][quote comment=”281007″][quote comment=”280998″][quote comment=”280991″][quote comment=”280988″][quote comment=”280980″][quote comment=”280971″][quote comment=”280968″]Paul, your column is terrific, but wearing those great stirrups with sweatpants and a t-shirt is like putting a Mercedes grill on an old Yugo. Get real baseball pants![/quote]

    But here’s the thing: I’m not interested in wearing a full uniform — that would be too much. I’m a sweats-and-T-shirt player in a sweats (or shorts) and tee league. Just a regular guy playing with a bunch of other regular guys. But I add the stirrups to the mix as my way of keeping baseball’s hosiery tradition alive.[/quote]

    Got no problem with the sweatpants, but BLACK sweatpants with 78 Mets stirrups? No!!! Somewhere Charlie Samuels is laughing.[/quote]

    They’re not black. They’re navy.

    [quote comment=”280980″]BTW Not to be picky, but don’t you think there is a little too much sanitary sock showing?[/quote]

    No.[/quote]
    I’m glad you don’t wear baseball pants at the softball field. I think those people look like dorks.[/quote]

    I resent that, Kek![/quote]

    When I play Fall Softball, I plan on wearing pinstriped pants, stirrups, and an old baseball jersey I can find from Salvation Army. But then again, my plan is to look like a dork.[/quote]
    Then you, sir, will accomplish your goal!!!!

    Seriously though, I’m curious, when you talk about getting something at the Salvation Army how old of a jersey do you normally find? Are there really old, vintage type jerseys out there (pre-double knit I guess) or is it just junk from the 70s and 80s?[/quote]

    I don’t frequent Salvation Army to much, but it’s mostly junk. I’m just looking for the uglist jersey i can find.

  • Juan Grande | July 21, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    Red Sox players are referred to as a “Red Sock”.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    “i’m a red sock”

    doesn’t quite ring right, but i guess that’s technically correct, although i’ve heard the espnitards say “he’s a red sox”, which…well…doesn’t sound right either…

    my theory, which has prolly always been wrong, is that there is no “i” in team, so one is never, individually, anything…one is a MEMBER of said team…

    to wit…

    wrong: “i’m a met”…
    right: “i’m a member of the mets”

    im sure i’m wrong here, but that’s the way i always viewed the plural/singular of team names

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]
    I’m a Red Sock? Not so much.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    DAMMIT JUAN

    gosh darnit, juan…well…we’re on the same wavelength on this one ;)

  • Joseph Chiaccio | July 21, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    The Indians vs. Mariners jerseys are available at our store. We’re getting a few of them for Ichiro and Sizemore, and they should be up for sale today or tomorrow. Other players available by request, today only, since we’re ordering them now.

    Links here:

    Indians: http://www.jersey-jo...

    Mariners: http://www.jersey-jo...

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  • Joe Hilseberg | July 21, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”281003″][quote comment=”280993″][quote comment=”280965″]Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?[/quote]

    I will be there as well. I wonder if they will use the same throwbacks from the Pirates series when they celebrated the ’79 series. Did the uniforms change at all in those 4 years?

    Speaking of which, the batting helmets they wore that night have been bothering me. The white part of the helmet was just an arch and did not extend to the top of the helmet in a point.

    http://www.baltimore...

    Is this because of the Cool-flo design? Why couldn’t they use old-style helmets? Do teams have a contract with the Cool-flo style that prohibits them from using other types?[/quote]

    The road jerseys had changed. In ’79 they still had the varsity numbers and vertically arched NOBs on the road. By ’83, they had serif numbers and radially arched NOBs, just like at home.[/quote]

    the ’83 jerseys had sans serif numbers is what I think you meant…because they did. However the ’83 orange pullovers still had the serif numbers and vertically arched names.

    And the helmets looked so terrible because they just used a white sticker so they could remove it after the game.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”281024″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    “i’m a red sock”

    doesn’t quite ring right, but i guess that’s technically correct, although i’ve heard the espnitards say “he’s a red sox”, which…well…doesn’t sound right either…

    my theory, which has prolly always been wrong, is that there is no “i” in team, so one is never, individually, anything…one is a MEMBER of said team…

    to wit…

    wrong: “i’m a met”…
    right: “i’m a member of the mets”

    im sure i’m wrong here, but that’s the way i always viewed the plural/singular of team names[/quote]

    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out!

  • marc | July 21, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”280978″]Are they in a bathroom? Why are the hand dryers so high up on the wall?

    http://farm4.static....

    Probably to dry hair? It’d likely be easier to have wall-mounted dryers than have hand-helds around a bunch of dudes standing in puddles.

    On another note… I never knew the Babe was a pinkie-ring kinda guy .

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    Collegiately speaking (and that’s where a lot of nicknaming began) virtually all of those older “non s” names orginated from a newspaper acccount or something. They weren’t part of “name the team contest”. They just…evolved.

    “…rolled like a crimson tide.”

    Because of that, names like “Thunder” sound so forced. They don’t come from anywhere other than the mind of someone trying to be clever with picking a nickname.

    Although, I have to admit, I’m kinda part of the problem. Back in’73 I was working with some of the guys who started the WFL. At the time, the only non-plural name in pro sports was the Dallas Tornado of the the NASAL. Was at a meeting and Ed Grusin, marketing director for the Chicago franchise, proudly told me, “We’re going to be the ‘Chicago Fires’.”

    “Ed,” I said, “there was only ONE Chicago Fire. So be singular, like Fighting Irish or Crimson Tide. Would be kind of unique.”

    He thought a moment, then said, “Good point.”

    Later they announced their nickname. Chicago Fire.

    Unfortunately, like that fire the trend spread. Even in that league, to Southern California Sun.

    Shit. Kinda makes me and Mrs. O’Leary’s cow travelling companions, doesn’t it.

  • Perry | July 21, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    Looks like maybe the Layne mystery has been solved. I was going to suggest that possibly 22 was his baseball number, since he was also a great baseball player at Texas. He’s one of 4 Longhorn pitchers to throw 2 no-hitters (along with Burt Hooton, James Street, and Greg Swindell).

  • Joe Hilseberg | July 21, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”281029″]
    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out![/quote]

    Sad to say I don’t watch the Wire..I live there..I see it in person! hehe

    I have a buddy who is die hard…I’ll ask him

  • Mike Edgerly | July 21, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    Ronaldinho’s number with AC Milan is revealed to be #80, Seedorf already has #10
    http://www.goal.com/...

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote]Kinda makes me and Mrs. O’Leary’s cow travelling companions[/quote]

    well…since you’re the same age…;)

  • Josh | July 21, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”280987″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.

    Worse (or just as bad) names:

    Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)

    Tampa Rays
    Florida Marlins
    Colorado Rockies

    Houston Texans
    Miami Dolphins

    Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
    Miami Heat
    Utah Jazz
    Orlando Magic[/quote]

    notice how many of those teams are newer teams that are 20 or so years old

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”281029″][quote comment=”281024″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    “i’m a red sock”

    doesn’t quite ring right, but i guess that’s technically correct, although i’ve heard the espnitards say “he’s a red sox”, which…well…doesn’t sound right either…

    my theory, which has prolly always been wrong, is that there is no “i” in team, so one is never, individually, anything…one is a MEMBER of said team…

    to wit…

    wrong: “i’m a met”…
    right: “i’m a member of the mets”

    im sure i’m wrong here, but that’s the way i always viewed the plural/singular of team names[/quote]

    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out![/quote]
    In keeping with grammar-watch themes, one thing I find odd, and I don’t have a style guide at work to look it up but…

    When watching highlights of American sports you get “is” after a city name and “are” after a team name. For example: New York is ready for a three-game series with the Red Sox or The Yankees are ready…

    But when I watch say, Fox Soccer Channel when they are referring to, for the most part, EPL teams which are mostly singular in nature, they say “are” following it. For example: Arsenal are ready for West Ham or Manchester United are off this week…

    Is this because for the most part, soccer clubs aren’t nicknamed like teams in American sport? I know some teams have nicknames (gunners, for example) but teams’ names aren’t structured like in North America (i.e. you don’t have the London Lions)

    And in the U.S., even if the nickname is singular, “are” is used. I get that a sports team is a plural entity so I understand that saying “The Heat is ready” is wrong.

    Just food for thought I guess.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”281035″][quote]Kinda makes me and Mrs. O’Leary’s cow travelling companions[/quote]

    well…since you’re the same age…;)[/quote]

    Knew you’d milk that one.

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”281033″][quote comment=”281029″]
    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out![/quote]

    Sad to say I don’t watch the Wire..I live there..I see it in person! hehe

    I have a buddy who is die hard…I’ll ask him[/quote]
    Isn’t that a street slang thing more than something unique to B-more? They also say “po-po” on The Wire also.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”281033″][quote comment=”281029″]
    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out![/quote]

    Sad to say I don’t watch the Wire..I live there..I see it in person! hehe

    I have a buddy who is die hard…I’ll ask him[/quote]

    I was wondering if it was a regional dialect kind of thing.

    The distinct accents that the local actors form “Ballmer” used were vey interesting!

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”281036″][quote comment=”280987″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.

    Worse (or just as bad) names:

    Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)

    Tampa Rays
    Florida Marlins
    Colorado Rockies

    Houston Texans
    Miami Dolphins

    Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
    Miami Heat
    Utah Jazz
    Orlando Magic[/quote]

    notice how many of those teams are newer teams that are 20 or so years old[/quote]

    Yeah, I noticed that when I was writing it, plus alot of Florida teams. We haven’t had too many good expansion team names recently.

  • Jake | July 21, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    The Orioles’ use of the BP jersey was a shame this weekend. That having been said, I miss the old orange jerseys, so I was intrigued by the effort.

    Much like the trend that caused Paul’s “Ditch the Black” campaign, the Orioles tried to irradicate orange from their color scheme in the late nineties.

    Orange is back, now, as the team is giving away orange promotional t-shirts (as opposed to white with orange trim, as before).

    I wonder if it is not an effort to make the stands look less empty on TV.

    I am all for an orange alternate jersey, but let’s have a JERSEY, not a warm-up.

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”281038″][quote comment=”281035″][quote]Kinda makes me and Mrs. O’Leary’s cow travelling companions[/quote]

    well…since you’re the same age…;)[/quote]

    Knew you’d milk that one.[/quote]

    Milk what? The cow? gross…

  • josh | July 21, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”281037″][quote comment=”281029″][quote comment=”281024″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    “i’m a red sock”

    doesn’t quite ring right, but i guess that’s technically correct, although i’ve heard the espnitards say “he’s a red sox”, which…well…doesn’t sound right either…

    my theory, which has prolly always been wrong, is that there is no “i” in team, so one is never, individually, anything…one is a MEMBER of said team…

    to wit…

    wrong: “i’m a met”…
    right: “i’m a member of the mets”

    im sure i’m wrong here, but that’s the way i always viewed the plural/singular of team names[/quote]

    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out![/quote]
    In keeping with grammar-watch themes, one thing I find odd, and I don’t have a style guide at work to look it up but…

    When watching highlights of American sports you get “is” after a city name and “are” after a team name. For example: New York is ready for a three-game series with the Red Sox or The Yankees are ready…

    But when I watch say, Fox Soccer Channel when they are referring to, for the most part, EPL teams which are mostly singular in nature, they say “are” following it. For example: Arsenal are ready for West Ham or Manchester United are off this week…

    Is this because for the most part, soccer clubs aren’t nicknamed like teams in American sport? I know some teams have nicknames (gunners, for example) but teams’ names aren’t structured like in North America (i.e. you don’t have the London Lions)

    And in the U.S., even if the nickname is singular, “are” is used. I get that a sports team is a plural entity so I understand that saying “The Heat is ready” is wrong.

    Just food for thought I guess.[/quote]

    Historically speaking, a change occured in how one described the United States following the Civil War. Before the war, one would say, “the United States are…” Following the war it became, “the United States is…”.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”281039″][quote comment=”281033″][quote comment=”281029″]
    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out![/quote]

    Sad to say I don’t watch the Wire..I live there..I see it in person! hehe

    I have a buddy who is die hard…I’ll ask him[/quote]
    Isn’t that a street slang thing more than something unique to B-more? They also say “po-po” on The Wire also.[/quote]

    That’s everywhere, Five-O for example…In this reference, it wasn’t just street vernacular…The police themselves, the city officials, all used this term.

    For example, when looking back on the career of a retired cop, one might have said, “He was a good police” or one cop turned teacher, Prez, was telling a colleague that he, “used to be a police”.

    Strange is all!

    That’s like meeting Joe Girardi and him saying he was a Yankees!

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”281043″][quote comment=”281038″][quote comment=”281035″][quote]Kinda makes me and Mrs. O’Leary’s cow travelling companions[/quote]

    well…since you’re the same age…;)[/quote]

    Knew you’d milk that one.[/quote]

    Milk what? The cow? gross…[/quote]

    Nope. Just going for a “groaner”. Seem to have succeeded, too.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    douggie…

    the brits tend to pluralize things such as “audience” while americans singularize them…

    eg…(brit) the audience were laughing…which sounds strange to our ears, but is, i believe, actually grammatically correct

    pet peeve of mine: people who singlarize latin plurals…for example…”data”…which is the plural of ‘datum’…so the “data were” or the “data are” NOT the “data was” or the “data is”

    OR…pluralize singlular by adding an “s” when also not correct:

    ‘medium’…television is a medium…radio and television are media not mediums

    grrrr

  • Matt Beahan | July 21, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”280992″]Still looking for this info:
    1996-97 Sonics throwback unis: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. Also need pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp. (I’ve tried Getty Images with no luck.) Does anyone know for a fact that these were even worn? I’ve seen Kemp replicas on Ebay.

    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. I believe the name was printed and the numbers sewn, but not 100% sure on that.[/quote]

    The USA jerseys had sown numbers and crest and screened names, at least for the ’96 Olympics.

    The Sonics throwbacks – you mean the NBA 50th season?

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”281047″]douggie…

    the brits tend to pluralize things such as “audience” while americans singularize them…

    eg…(brit) the audience were laughing…which sounds strange to our ears, but is, i believe, actually grammatically correct

    pet peeve of mine: people who singlarize latin plurals…for example…”data”…which is the plural of ‘datum’…so the “data were” or the “data are” NOT the “data was” or the “data is”

    OR…pluralize singlular by adding an “s” when also not correct:

    ‘medium’…television is a medium…radio and television are media not mediums

    grrrr[/quote]

    Yup. “Different mediums” would be:
    Several shirts sized between small and large.
    Or maybe a group of psychics.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    “stadiums” does seem to have slipped into the vernacular, though.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”281047″]douggie…

    the brits tend to pluralize things such as “audience” while americans singularize them…

    eg…(brit) the audience were laughing…which sounds strange to our ears, but is, i believe, actually grammatically correct

    pet peeve of mine: people who singlarize latin plurals…for example…”data”…which is the plural of ‘datum’…so the “data were” or the “data are” NOT the “data was” or the “data is”

    OR…pluralize singlular by adding an “s” when also not correct:

    ‘medium’…television is a medium…radio and television are media not mediums

    grrrr[/quote]

    In class, usually the day befor a holiday or a half day, etc I will give the kids a brain teaser to work on when they enter class:

    List teams whose nickname does NOT end in an S!

    The kids have a harder time than expected with this.

    To prove that NONE of us will be getting social security, except for, of course, Ricko, one of my former students, who was pretty sports savvy, kept quiet throughout this exercise.

    When asked why, he replied: cus the only teams that I can think of actually DO end with an S like the Heats, the Magics and the Jazzes!

    No Child Left Behind!

  • Christopher | July 21, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    Been a White Sox fan all my life, and no one but no one knows what to call an individual player.

    A White Sox?
    A White Sock?
    A White Sox player?

    But, I gotta disagree with you. I dig names without an “s”… specifically ones that you think should have an “s”… like The Stanford Cardinal, The Orange, etc.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    re: Paul’s Sunday stirrups.

    Anyone notice they also match the catcher’s mask hanging in the background?

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    ANother one, which is a HUGE pet peeve of mine, sports related of course is “versing”

    Kid 1: What school are you versing today?
    Kid 2: We’re versing Spring Valley today!

    Aarrrgghh

    By the way, the Mets uni that Keith Hernandez was wearing in Phil’s link above looked pretty good!

  • SaraJane | July 21, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    Chris Carpenter was on rehab with the AA Springfield Cardinals yesterday. I’m bummed that he didn’t show the stripes…

    Pagnozzi & Carpenter

    They look great on Pags, even with the catcher’s gear. (He’s Tom Pagnozzi’s nephew.)

  • josh | July 21, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”281049″][quote comment=”281047″]douggie…

    the brits tend to pluralize things such as “audience” while americans singularize them…

    eg…(brit) the audience were laughing…which sounds strange to our ears, but is, i believe, actually grammatically correct

    pet peeve of mine: people who singlarize latin plurals…for example…”data”…which is the plural of ‘datum’…so the “data were” or the “data are” NOT the “data was” or the “data is”

    OR…pluralize singlular by adding an “s” when also not correct:

    ‘medium’…television is a medium…radio and television are media not mediums

    grrrr[/quote]

    Yup. “Different mediums” would be:
    Several shirts sized between small and large.
    Or maybe a group of psychics.[/quote]

    Know what you call a missing clairvoyant dwarf?

    A small medium at large.

    BAM!!

  • Shane | July 21, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”281048″][quote comment=”280992″]Still looking for this info:
    1996-97 Sonics throwback unis: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. Also need pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp. (I’ve tried Getty Images with no luck.) Does anyone know for a fact that these were even worn? I’ve seen Kemp replicas on Ebay.

    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. I believe the name was printed and the numbers sewn, but not 100% sure on that.[/quote]

    The USA jerseys had sown numbers and crest and screened names, at least for the ’96 Olympics.

    The Sonics throwbacks – you mean the NBA 50th season?[/quote]

    The 1996 USA jerseys had a printed crest. I have a blank one, plus you can tell looking at pics on Getty. I came across a Payton gamer several years ago, I believe it has sewn numbers and printed name, but can’t remember for sure.

    Yes, I’m refering to the throwback used for the 50th anniversary celebration.

  • Jonathan Sluss | July 21, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”280963″]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ’01 and ’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer

  • Robert | July 21, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”281052″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    Been a White Sox fan all my life, and no one but no one knows what to call an individual player.

    A White Sox?
    A White Sock?
    A White Sox player?

    But, I gotta disagree with you. I dig names without an “s”… specifically ones that you think should have an “s”… like The Stanford Cardinal, The Orange, etc.[/quote]

    I exempt from my rule colleges with historical nicknames.

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”281058″][quote comment=”280963″]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ’01 and ’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]
    Looks like he had that weird chin scar even way back then.

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”281047″]douggie…

    the brits tend to pluralize things such as “audience” while americans singularize them…

    eg…(brit) the audience were laughing…which sounds strange to our ears, but is, i believe, actually grammatically correct

    pet peeve of mine: people who singlarize latin plurals…for example…”data”…which is the plural of ‘datum’…so the “data were” or the “data are” NOT the “data was” or the “data is”

    OR…pluralize singlular by adding an “s” when also not correct:

    ‘medium’…television is a medium…radio and television are media not mediums

    grrrr[/quote]
    Well, I’m guilty as hell of using “data is” and “data was” but I think I make up for it with my correct usage of stadia!

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”281059″][quote comment=”281052″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    Been a White Sox fan all my life, and no one but no one knows what to call an individual player.

    A White Sox?
    A White Sock?
    A White Sox player?

    But, I gotta disagree with you. I dig names without an “s”… specifically ones that you think should have an “s”… like The Stanford Cardinal, The Orange, etc.[/quote]

    I exempt from my rule colleges with historical nicknames.[/quote]

    So would I, and was sort of alluding to their appropriatess for colleges exactly because there’s a legitimate history for such things.

    Love Green Wave, Thundering Herd and, yes, the newer ones such as Cardinal. Works in that context. In pros, no, not so good.

  • James Craven | July 21, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”281047″]“‘Medium’…Television is a medium…”[/quote]

    …Because programming on that medium is rarely well done.

    Put that in your Google and look it up.

  • Jonathan Sluss | July 21, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”281060″][quote comment=”281058″][quote comment=”280963″]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ’01 and ’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]
    Looks like he had that weird chin scar even way back then.[/quote]

    Yeah, he was burned as a kid trying to put out a barn fire.

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”281064″][quote comment=”281060″][quote comment=”281058″][quote comment=”280963″]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ’01 and ’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]
    Looks like he had that weird chin scar even way back then.[/quote]

    Yeah, he was burned as a kid trying to put out a barn fire.[/quote]
    Thanks, I’ve always wondered.

  • Tris Wykes | July 21, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    To answer post #27 about why the hand dryers in my Kelso helmet are up so high… they were in the Gophers football locker room and used by the players to dry their hair.

  • Tris Wykes | July 21, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”281066″]To answer post #27 about why the hand dryers in my Kelso helmet are up so high… they were in the Gophers football locker room and used by the players to dry their hair.[/quote]

    That should be “in my Kelso helmet photo”.

  • Patrick | July 21, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    Are we sure these aren’t for the Tech volleyball team?

    http://redraideroutf...

  • Urban Runoff | July 21, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    The Orioles looked a bit silly yesterday in their warmup orange jerseys. I think they did it to try to snap a Sunday losing streak. Didn’t work. Justin Verlander ate their lunch.

  • BigBootyLover58 | July 21, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    Paul:

    For someone who is so against the Mets use of black with their classic blue, you seem to have no problem mixing black sweats with those awesome blue stirrups! Make up your mind, kid!

    (j/k)

  • Marty Met | July 21, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”281054″]ANother one, which is a HUGE pet peeve of mine, sports related of course is “versing”

    Kid 1: What school are you versing today?
    Kid 2: We’re versing Spring Valley today!

    Aarrrgghh

    By the way, the Mets uni that Keith Hernandez was wearing in Phil’s link above looked pretty good![/quote]

    I’ve always loved the Mets away uniforms with those shoulder stripes, but I was never a fan of the cursive New York they used in 87. The 88 uniform was GREAT and the 1991 was their best ever.

    http://exhibits.base...

    http://exhibits.base...

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”281070″]Paul:

    For someone who is so against the Mets use of black with their classic blue, you seem to have no problem mixing black sweats with those awesome blue stirrups! Make up your mind, kid!

    (j/k)[/quote]

    yeah…um lookie here

  • Josh | July 21, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”281009″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Thunder? That is so minor league it’s unbelievable. You call an arena football team the Thunder. A USL soccer team chooses a nickname like Thunder. Minor league hockey is a place for Thunder. The National Basketball Association – not a place for a team name like Thunder. Hey Oklahoma City, you’ve been Thunderstruck. And that’s not a good thing.[/quote]

    if they rename their arena the “thunderdome” i will officially name them the worst team EVER! and i will hate them for their entire existance.

  • Mr. Met | July 21, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”281073″]if they rename their arena the “thunderdome” i will officially name them the worst team EVER! and i will hate them for their entire existance.[/quote]

    Oh I don’t know. I think you could have fun with it. Make Master Blaster the team mascot and give them a tagline of “two teams enter, one team leaves”……

  • Josh | July 21, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”281074″][quote comment=”281073″]if they rename their arena the “thunderdome” i will officially name them the worst team EVER! and i will hate them for their entire existance.[/quote]

    Oh I don’t know. I think you could have fun with it. Make Master Blaster the team mascot and give them a tagline of “two teams enter, one team leaves”……[/quote]
    yeah, and then pauly shore could… wait thats BIOdome. lol

  • Josh | July 21, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”281074″][quote comment=”281073″]if they rename their arena the “thunderdome” i will officially name them the worst team EVER! and i will hate them for their entire existance.[/quote]

    Oh I don’t know. I think you could have fun with it. Make Master Blaster the team mascot and give them a tagline of “two teams enter, one team leaves”……[/quote]

    by the way, are the players gonna be introduced to thunderstruck by ACDC?

  • Josh | July 21, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    by the way, the OKC team could have been named any of these.
    http://newsok.com/oh...…/article/3271148/?tm=1216265375

  • Adam | July 21, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”281011″]In yesterday’s Sox/KC game, Joe Crede was wearing Toby Hall’s helmet (have to look close, but it’s a 44 on the brim):

    And, I forget who, but somebody was wearing Juan Uribe’s 5.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”281077″]by the way, the OKC team could have been named any of these.
    http://newsok.com/oh...…/article/3271148/?tm=1216265375[/quote]

    Actually, kinda like “Drillers”.

    Or, if you know the origin of the term, “Wilcatters”.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    oops…”Wildcatters”

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”281079″]Or, if you know the origin of the term, “Wilcatters”.[/quote]

    that short for “wildcatter” there ricko?

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”281077″]by the way, the OKC team could have been named any of these.
    http://newsok.com/oh...…/article/3271148/?tm=1216265375[/quote]
    Wow, who’s the moron who suggested Diamondbacks? Crimson Tide? These folks are brilliant.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”281080″]oops…”Wildcatters”[/quote]

    beat me to it…i agree with you there…tha’d be a great name

  • Marty Met | July 21, 2008 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”281077″]by the way, the OKC team could have been named any of these.
    http://newsok.com/oh...…/article/3271148/?tm=1216265375[/quote]

    Cottonmouths?? Great. They could get Courtney Love to sing the National Anthem.

  • timmy b | July 21, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    Whaaaaa???

    Really?? the 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    When did this happen?? :)

    If true, this is a huge find!

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote]the 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    When did this happen??[/quote]

    1956

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    Hey, speaking of NBA names, just thought of something. Back in 1989, the adv/marketing agency where I worked produced a brochure for Manny Jackson, who owned the Globetrotters. He was trying to land an NBA franchise for San Diego. They likely were going to be the “San Diego Navigators” (this was well before the SUV of the same name), after the old explorers/sailors such as Balboa, and also in reference to the current naval facilities and sizable sailing commmunity. Colors were gonna be: Forest, Burgundy, Old Gold and White (same as UniWatch, you’ll note).

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”281087″]Hey, speaking of NBA names, just thought of something. Back in 1989, the adv/marketing agency where I worked produced a brochure for Manny Jackson, who owned the Globetrotters. He was trying to land an NBA franchise for San Diego. They likely were going to be the “San Diego Navigators” (this was well before the SUV of the same name), after the old explorers/sailors such as Balboa, and also in reference to the current naval facilities and sizable sailing commmunity. Colors were gonna be: Forest, Burgundy, Old Gold and White (same as UniWatch, you’ll note).[/quote]

    Reasoned that, for headline purposes, NBA already had Cav’s, could probably handle Nav’s.

  • Roger Faso | July 21, 2008 at 12:59 pm |

    “The fights, which overshadowed West Ham United’s 3-1 win, began when a handful of West Ham supporters, some wearing the team’s claret and blue colors, entered the northeast corner of the stadium where the Crew’s most boisterous supporters typically gather.”

    http://soccernet.esp...

    Boisterous supporters? In Ohio? For soccer?!

    This has got to be the first example of hooliganism in MLS history. Are we finally maturing as football (soccer) fans? Should this date be noted as historic? Surely this is bigger news than the first WNBA slam dunk.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”281085″]Whaaaaa???

    Really?? the 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    When did this happen?? :)

    If true, this is a huge find![/quote]

    Just other day was looking at photo supposedly from Rams-Eagles title game. Not that style Ram horn in the photo. Doesn’t have the scalloped edges.

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”281088″][quote comment=”281087″]Hey, speaking of NBA names, just thought of something. Back in 1989, the adv/marketing agency where I worked produced a brochure for Manny Jackson, who owned the Globetrotters. He was trying to land an NBA franchise for San Diego. They likely were going to be the “San Diego Navigators” (this was well before the SUV of the same name), after the old explorers/sailors such as Balboa, and also in reference to the current naval facilities and sizable sailing commmunity. Colors were gonna be: Forest, Burgundy, Old Gold and White (same as UniWatch, you’ll note).[/quote]

    Reasoned that, for headline purposes, NBA already had Cav’s, could probably handle Nav’s.[/quote]
    And Mavs.

  • Dane | July 21, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    So how do you think the NFL players working in Green Bay would complete that sentence? Can you imagine His Almighty Holiness and Doer of All Great Deeds Brett Favre proudly stating, “I’m a Packer?”

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”281090″][quote comment=”281085″]Whaaaaa???

    Really?? the 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    When did this happen?? :)

    If true, this is a huge find![/quote]

    Just other day was looking at photo supposedly from Rams-Eagles title game. Not that style Ram horn in the photo. Doesn’t have the scalloped edges.[/quote]

    Have photo of Kenny Washington wearing that “fancier” Ram horn. I’ll checks years on the photos when I get a chance.

    In Maule/Riger’s fine book THE PROS it tells the widely accepted version of story of the original hand-painted (by the players) Rams’ horns.

  • Josh | July 21, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”281087″]Hey, speaking of NBA names, just thought of something. Back in 1989, the adv/marketing agency where I worked produced a brochure for Manny Jackson, who owned the Globetrotters. He was trying to land an NBA franchise for San Diego. They likely were going to be the “San Diego Navigators” (this was well before the SUV of the same name), after the old explorers/sailors such as Balboa, and also in reference to the current naval facilities and sizable sailing commmunity. Colors were gonna be: Forest, Burgundy, Old Gold and White (same as UniWatch, you’ll note).[/quote]

    is there any site online that talks about this. i cant find anything anywhere.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”281091″][quote comment=”281088″][quote comment=”281087″]Hey, speaking of NBA names, just thought of something. Back in 1989, the adv/marketing agency where I worked produced a brochure for Manny Jackson, who owned the Globetrotters. He was trying to land an NBA franchise for San Diego. They likely were going to be the “San Diego Navigators” (this was well before the SUV of the same name), after the old explorers/sailors such as Balboa, and also in reference to the current naval facilities and sizable sailing commmunity. Colors were gonna be: Forest, Burgundy, Old Gold and White (same as UniWatch, you’ll note).[/quote]

    Reasoned that, for headline purposes, NBA already had Cav’s, could probably handle Nav’s.[/quote]
    And Mavs.[/quote]

    There you go.

  • S. Bennett | July 21, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    Lukas.

    Polish those Copas.

  • Curtis | July 21, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”281092″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    So how do you think the NFL players working in Green Bay would complete that sentence? Can you imagine His Almighty Holiness and Doer of All Great Deeds Brett Favre proudly stating, “I’m a Packer?”[/quote]
    No, all he has to say is “I’m Brett Favre”

  • Maks | July 21, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    I really LOVE my drawings! Thanks Rob!!

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”281094″][quote comment=”281087″]Hey, speaking of NBA names, just thought of something. Back in 1989, the adv/marketing agency where I worked produced a brochure for Manny Jackson, who owned the Globetrotters. He was trying to land an NBA franchise for San Diego. They likely were going to be the “San Diego Navigators” (this was well before the SUV of the same name), after the old explorers/sailors such as Balboa, and also in reference to the current naval facilities and sizable sailing commmunity. Colors were gonna be: Forest, Burgundy, Old Gold and White (same as UniWatch, you’ll note).[/quote]

    is there any site online that talks about this. i cant find anything anywhere.[/quote]

    Probably won’t. It was just Jackson attempting to make something happen…on his own nickel. Don’t even know it was ever noted in the media. Was a lavish brochure, actually. Never got a copy of it. I know we nitpicked the shit out of the content before it went to press.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”281074″][quote comment=”281073″]if they rename their arena the “thunderdome” i will officially name them the worst team EVER! and i will hate them for their entire existance.[/quote]

    Oh I don’t know. I think you could have fun with it. Make Master Blaster the team mascot and give them a tagline of “two teams enter, one team leaves”……[/quote]

    The ayatollah of rock and rolla

  • Jim | July 21, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    You would think they would give him a jersey he could actually fit into. Or they knew he’d never wear it and didn’t give a rat’s ass…

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Josh | July 21, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”281101″]You would think they would give him a jersey he could actually fit into. Or they knew he’d never wear it and didn’t give a rat’s ass…

    http://sports.espn.g...

    look at W just gazing into jennie finch’s eyes. lmao!

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”281101″]You would think they would give him a jersey he could actually fit into. Or they knew he’d never wear it and didn’t give a rat’s ass…

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Bush looks like he’s saying: “Golly…you’re cute. (chuckle, snort.)”

  • J-Dub | July 21, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”281082″][quote comment=”281077″]by the way, the OKC team could have been named any of these.
    http://newsok.com/oh...…/article/3271148/?tm=1216265375[/quote]
    Wow, who’s the moron who suggested Diamondbacks? Crimson Tide? These folks are brilliant.[/quote]
    Yeah, and what 5-year-old submitted “Dora Explorers”?
    Oh, wait….

  • J-Dub | July 21, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”281103″][quote comment=”281101″]You would think they would give him a jersey he could actually fit into. Or they knew he’d never wear it and didn’t give a rat’s ass…

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Bush looks like he’s saying: “Golly…you’re cute. (chuckle, snort.)”[/quote]
    Same thing he says to Condi

  • Dane | July 21, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”281101″]You would think they would give him a jersey he could actually fit into. Or they knew he’d never wear it and didn’t give a rat’s ass…

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Just looking at the logo on the polo shirts, I was wondering if Cirque du Soleil was sponsoring the US Olympic Team:
    http://k43.pbase.com...

  • timmy b | July 21, 2008 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”281093″][quote comment=”281090″][quote comment=”281085″]Whaaaaa???

    Really?? the 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    When did this happen?? :)

    If true, this is a huge find![/quote]

    Just other day was looking at photo supposedly from Rams-Eagles title game. Not that style Ram horn in the photo. Doesn’t have the scalloped edges.[/quote]

    Have photo of Kenny Washington wearing that “fancier” Ram horn. I’ll checks years on the photos when I get a chance.

    In Maule/Riger’s fine book THE PROS it tells the widely accepted version of story of the original hand-painted (by the players) Rams’ horns.[/quote]

    Ricko,

    I have that book. And I have the 1977 version of the NFL Encyclopedic History of Pro Football. And there is a photo in there of a Rams-NY Bulldogs game in the Coliseum. The Rams are wearing the “scalloped” horns that curl above the ear hole helmet in that shot.

    IIRC, Elroy Hirsch was the only Ram who wore a 1948 leather helmet with the “smooth” horns for 1949.

    Come to think of it, if the Rams were ever to wear a RED helmet, 1949 would be the year.

    1. The first year they wore plastic helmets.
    2. The only year since adopting horns on the helmet in 1948 that they curled over the ear hole rather than under and around the hole.
    3. The only time the horns were “notched” or “scalloped” instead of “smooth”

    This definitely requires some deep geeking.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”281101″]You would think they would give him a jersey he could actually fit into. Or they knew he’d never wear it and didn’t give a rat’s ass…

    http://sports.espn.g...

    that’s a nice bush

  • Michael | July 21, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    The AJC has a photo gallery of UGA’s equipment mangers getting ready for the season. The athletic department has been auctioning off game worn jerseys on the web site in recent weeks. Which made it was obvious that they would be getting new jerseys for the upcoming season which led to rumors amongst some fans of them getting a new look for 08-09. A pic in the gallery shows confirms they did indeed get new jerseys’ with new lighter that has more venting but the there in the same format as the last 3 seasons. That’s a relief, I’m all for the black jersey’s but do not want the Dawgs wearing some new wild & crazy deign. There have been rumors of a complete blackout later in the season: black helmets, jersey’s & pants. I don’t see Coach Mark Richt being talked into that but hopefully the black jerseys will become a big game tradition!

    http://projects.ajc....

  • Christopher | July 21, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”281086″][quote]the 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    When did this happen??[/quote]

    1956[/quote]

    Ok, that was funny Lil’ Phil.

  • J-Dub | July 21, 2008 at 2:00 pm |

    Serious uni-related news:
    http://www.abs-cbnne...

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”281110″][quote comment=”281086″][quote]the 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    When did this happen??[/quote]

    1956[/quote]

    Ok, that was funny Lil’ Phil.[/quote]
    That’s a nice Lil’ Bush…
    http://www.blogsmith...

  • Geeman | July 21, 2008 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”281003″][quote comment=”280993″][quote comment=”280965″]Any uniwatchers going to the O’s 1983 throwback game on wednesday?[/quote]

    I will be there as well. I wonder if they will use the same throwbacks from the Pirates series when they celebrated the ’79 series. Did the uniforms change at all in those 4 years?

    Speaking of which, the batting helmets they wore that night have been bothering me. The white part of the helmet was just an arch and did not extend to the top of the helmet in a point.

    http://www.baltimore...

    Is this because of the Cool-flo design? Why couldn’t they use old-style helmets? Do teams have a contract with the Cool-flo style that prohibits them from using other types?[/quote]

    The road jerseys had changed. In ’79 they still had the varsity numbers and vertically arched NOBs on the road. By ’83, they had serif numbers and radially arched NOBs, just like at home.[/quote]
    I don’t think the O’s wore orange in ’83 like they did in ’79. They started wearing orange again in 1987 or so, according to the uniform book. I saw them wear it in a game at Yankee Stadium that year.

    Speaking of orange, did they wear a matching orange batting helmet with the orange-front cap in ’75-’76? Or did they wear a white-front batting helmet? Note that they wear mutliple caps now but only one batting helmet. I agree that attempt at a throwback helmet was a poor one.

  • Eric | July 21, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    My suggestion for team name would have been Oklahoma City Drive, “Drive” referencing the cattle drives that occured there up from Texas. Te logo would have been a “D” with horns and a nose ring. Colors would have been charcoal grey and brick red.

  • Eric | July 21, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”281114″]My suggestion for team name would have been Oklahoma City Drive, “Drive” referencing the cattle drives that occured there up from Texas. Te logo would have been a “D” with horns and a nose ring. Colors would have been charcoal grey and brick red.[/quote]

    Forgot to mention the secondary reference to the name would be that Route 66 passed through the city. Secondary logo would be a highway shield with “OKC” in it.

  • Nicole | July 21, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”281109″]The AJC has a photo gallery of UGA’s equipment mangers getting ready for the season. The athletic department has been auctioning off game worn jerseys on the web site in recent weeks. Which made it was obvious that they would be getting new jerseys for the upcoming season which led to rumors amongst some fans of them getting a new look for 08-09. A pic in the gallery shows confirms they did indeed get new jerseys’ with new lighter that has more venting but the there in the same format as the last 3 seasons. That’s a relief, I’m all for the black jersey’s but do not want the Dawgs wearing some new wild & crazy deign. There have been rumors of a complete blackout later in the season: black helmets, jersey’s & pants. I don’t see Coach Mark Richt being talked into that but hopefully the black jerseys will become a big game tradition!

    http://projects.ajc....

    The brother’s GF is a big Georgia fan, so I went to check out the auction and send him the link..

    Two of the jerseys they have listed have SEC 75th anniversary patches. The rest do not.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    Speaking of the early Bullets unis, how ’bout the Chicago Zephyrs…

    http://www.sportsecy...

    or even earlier, the Chicago Packers…
    (trick question, same team)

    Any one have any photos of Packers’ unis?
    (No wonder they changed names; can’t imagine “Packers” was real popular in Chicago).

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | July 21, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    Did a search and don’t have time to read all 160 comments but…. Bobby Layne did wear a 22 at Texas, my dad has pictures. Here is one! He also noted that this means James Saxton, Peter Gardere, Marty Akin also will have their number retired…

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | July 21, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    So much for Ctrl-F… it only works half the time on this page for some reason!

  • Jamie | July 21, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    Am I the only one who likes Texas Tech’s uniforms? I think, with the exception of the black-black and red-red combos, they look super cool, and actually sort of fit the style of football they play. Anyone else?

  • James Craven | July 21, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”281110″][quote comment=”281086″][quote]“The 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    “When did this happen??”[/quote]

    “1956.”[/quote]

    “Okay, that was funny Lil’ Phil.”[/quote]

    That’d be Long Island (or as the locals like to say “Long Guyland”) Phil, gracias.

  • Mike N. | July 21, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    I hate that I am taking cues from the Canadian Football League when it comes to nicknames, but I think the Oklahoma City Stampeders has a nice ring to it. Sure, its two syllables longer than Seattle Supersonics, but one short of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. :)

  • JWortham | July 21, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    What do you say we all pitch in and get PL some real baseball pants so he can retire the sweatpants?? I’m sure that would also provide more comfort/less heat on those hott days like yesterday!

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”281122″]I hate that I am taking cues from the Canadian Football League when it comes to nicknames, but I think the Oklahoma City Stampeders has a nice ring to it. Sure, its two syllables longer than Seattle Supersonics, but one short of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. :)[/quote]
    My favorite long sports team name: The Inverness Caledonian Thistle Football Club of the Scottish Premier League

    http://www.ictfc.pre...,,10447,00.html

  • Taylor | July 21, 2008 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”281058″][quote comment=”280963″]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ’01 and ’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]

    I’m suprised people are busting on the VT jerseys. I know here lots of times anything new gets slammed, but in a day and age of Oregon, Oregon State and Miami jerseys the new VT jerseys could be a LOT worse. Anybody remember the one orange sleeve deal from a few years back? At least the jersey is symmetrical. It’s better than anything Under Armor has designed that’s for sure.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”281124″][quote comment=”281122″]I hate that I am taking cues from the Canadian Football League when it comes to nicknames, but I think the Oklahoma City Stampeders has a nice ring to it. Sure, its two syllables longer than Seattle Supersonics, but one short of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. :)[/quote]
    My favorite long sports team name: The Inverness Caledonian Thistle Football Club of the Scottish Premier League

    http://www.ictfc.pre...,,10447,00.html[/quote]

    gee, makes me think of Christmas.

    “He sprang to his sleigh,
    to his team gave a whistle,
    and away they all flew,
    like the down of an Inverness Caledonian thistle.”

  • Mr. Met | July 21, 2008 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”281123″]What do you say we all pitch in and get PL some real baseball pants so he can retire the sweatpants?? I’m sure that would also provide more comfort/less heat on those hott days like yesterday![/quote]

    Let’s not and say we did. The man already said that he plays in a t-shirts and sweats league and he’s not interested in wearing baseball pants.
    Besides, I don’t think he’s that hard up for cash that he couldn’t take a walk down to his local Dick’s and spring some loot for some baseball pants if he really wanted a pair.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 3:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”281125″][quote comment=”281058″][quote comment=”280963″]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ’01 and ’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]

    I’m suprised people are busting on the VT jerseys. I know here lots of times anything new gets slammed, but in a day and age of Oregon, Oregon State and Miami jerseys the new VT jerseys could be a LOT worse. Anybody remember the one orange sleeve deal from a few years back? At least the jersey is symmetrical. It’s better than anything Under Armor has designed that’s for sure.[/quote]

    Those VT jerseys looked okay with pads. Better than I thought they would, anyway.

    For streetwear not so swift, though.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”281127″][quote comment=”281123″]What do you say we all pitch in and get PL some real baseball pants so he can retire the sweatpants?? I’m sure that would also provide more comfort/less heat on those hott days like yesterday![/quote]

    Let’s not and say we did. The man already said that he plays in a t-shirts and sweats league and he’s not interested in wearing baseball pants.
    Besides, I don’t think he’s that hard up for cash that he couldn’t take a walk down to his local Dick’s and spring some loot for some baseball pants if he really wanted a pair.[/quote]

    He’s probably in search of flannel, an anti-doubleknit thing, I suppose.

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”281130″]You hate purple but you look bush league with your soccer cleats and your past OBAMA shirt. Get some new cleats and put the OBAMA shirts away.[/quote]
    Damn, dude, it’s probably because he plays in a “Bush League”. Let it go.

  • Mr. Met | July 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”281129″]He’s probably in search of flannel, an anti-doubleknit thing, I suppose.[/quote]

    Now that I think would be interesting to see: Paul Lukas busting out the old school flannels on a softball field……

  • joe | July 21, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”280996″][quote comment=”280987″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.

    Worse (or just as bad) names:

    Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)

    Tampa Rays
    Florida Marlins
    Colorado Rockies

    Houston Texans
    Miami Dolphins

    Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
    Miami Heat
    Utah Jazz
    Orlando Magic[/quote]
    I guess I’ll take the liberty of defending some of those names. The Thrashers are named for a bird found a lot in the Southeast and is the state bird of Georgia, the brown thrasher.
    The Lightning is named so because of all the lightning that strikes Florida and their is no real way to pluralize other than calling them the Bolts (which sounds worse to me).
    It’s the Tampa Bay Rays, and it sounded better when they were the Devil Rays.
    As for the rest: lots of marlins/sailfish around Florida; Rockies named for the mountain range; Texans the name of the the Chiefs franchise when they were located in Dallas; lots of dolphins around Florida; and the Jazz was a great name when they were in New Orleans, and should have been left there.[/quote]

    its not a matter of if there is a “reason” for the name, its still sounds minor league. The Iowa Chops have a reason for the name it still is crappy.

  • joe | July 21, 2008 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”281004″][quote comment=”280992″]They can’t be serious… Thunder sounds like the name of a WNBA team.
    What’s the deadline to have the OKC designs in for the contest?

    Still looking for this info:
    1996-97 Sonics throwback unis: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. Also need pics of the players wearing the jersey, specificaly Shawn Kemp. (I’ve tried Getty Images with no luck.) Does anyone know for a fact that these were even worn? I’ve seen Kemp replicas on Ebay.

    1996 Atlanta Olympics basketball: Need to know if the name/numbers were printed or sewn on. I believe the name was printed and the numbers sewn, but not 100% sure on that.[/quote]
    Google Images solves all your Shawn Kemp-related problems.[/quote]
    and any images you get that are not of Kemp, are probably of his kids.

  • Taylor | July 21, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”281128″][quote comment=”281125″][quote comment=”281058″][quote comment=”280963″]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ’01 and ’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]

    I’m suprised people are busting on the VT jerseys. I know here lots of times anything new gets slammed, but in a day and age of Oregon, Oregon State and Miami jerseys the new VT jerseys could be a LOT worse. Anybody remember the one orange sleeve deal from a few years back? At least the jersey is symmetrical. It’s better than anything Under Armor has designed that’s for sure.[/quote]

    Those VT jerseys looked okay with pads. Better than I thought they would, anyway.

    For streetwear not so swift, though.[/quote]

    True, and as a Mason alum I would never be caught dead in anything orange and burgundy. And I was talking about how the jerseys would look on the field.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”281121″][quote comment=”281110″][quote comment=”281086″][quote]“The 1949 Rams wore RED helmets?!?!?!?!

    “When did this happen??”[/quote]

    “1956.”[/quote]

    “Okay, that was funny Lil’ Phil.”[/quote]

    That’d be Long Island (or as the locals like to say “Long Guyland”) Phil, gracias.[/quote]

    muchos gracias, there, james…and you’re actually VERRRRRY close

    it’s “lawn GUY-land” phil

    the “g” goes with the second word

  • joe | July 21, 2008 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”281073″][quote comment=”281009″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Thunder? That is so minor league it’s unbelievable. You call an arena football team the Thunder. A USL soccer team chooses a nickname like Thunder. Minor league hockey is a place for Thunder. The National Basketball Association – not a place for a team name like Thunder. Hey Oklahoma City, you’ve been Thunderstruck. And that’s not a good thing.[/quote]

    if they rename their arena the “thunderdome” i will officially name them the worst team EVER! and i will hate them for their entire existance.[/quote]
    why not, tampa had the thunderdome.

  • Shawn | July 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”280977″]RE: 89 Indians Throwbacks.

    Anyone know if a site like Jersey-Joe or another will offer replicas for sale?

    Those were beautiful…..[/quote]

    Yes, they were.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    Hopefully Jeremy Schockey will be more gruntled with the Saints.

  • Jiggy | July 21, 2008 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”281131″][quote comment=”281130″]You hate purple but you look bush league with your soccer cleats and your past OBAMA shirt. Get some new cleats and put the OBAMA shirts away.[/quote]
    Damn, dude, it’s probably because he plays in a “Bush League”. Let it go.[/quote]

    Still looks like crap. You need to take your own advice there Paul.

  • noelamezquita | July 21, 2008 at 4:35 pm |

    the Copas just need a little Chelsea love. locate some and they are good to go. is that security guy in the kelso helmet pick the beatboxer for the Fat Boys?

  • noelamezquita | July 21, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    AMERICAN west ham fans? dont tell me the green street hooligans started something in the states

  • PHIL | July 21, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    Drillers name is already taken by the Tulsa Drillers, a minor league baseball team that’s been around since the late 70s. The real group getting punked by the new name is the Oklahoma Thunder, The first time I heard about them was from this article last week, and already someone else is taking their name.

    As for the interstate shield design for a secondary logo, the Tulsa 66ers (D-League) use something similar. Since they’re affiliated with the OKC team, it would make sense.

  • Andrew Hresko | July 21, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    From the department of nobody cares (outside of Durham): from the picture on this page it looks like Duke football will have new uniforms this year.

    http://www.goduke.co...

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”281143″]Drillers name is already taken by the Tulsa Drillers, a minor league baseball team that’s been around since the late 70s. The real group getting punked by the new name is the Oklahoma Thunder, The first time I heard about them was from this article last week, and already someone else is taking their name.

    As for the interstate shield design for a secondary logo, the Tulsa 66ers (D-League) use something similar. Since they’re affiliated with the OKC team, it would make sense.[/quote]

    Was thinking Drillers had been a baseball team, but longtime Tulsa minor league team was the Oilers, right? And 89ers was OKC baseball, I think.

  • Mike | July 21, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    A quick note regarding the Babe picture; That shot was taken at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building (EEOB) where Pershing had an office for 20 years as General of the Army. His office was Room 250, which faces Pennsylvania Avenue and does have a balconey, which might be the setting. Uniworthy? No, but interesting to me since I worked there for two years. The EEOB is part of the White House complex-http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/eeobtour/

  • jd | July 21, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”281145″][quote comment=”281143″]Drillers name is already taken by the Tulsa Drillers, a minor league baseball team that’s been around since the late 70s. The real group getting punked by the new name is the Oklahoma Thunder, The first time I heard about them was from this article last week, and already someone else is taking their name.

    As for the interstate shield design for a secondary logo, the Tulsa 66ers (D-League) use something similar. Since they’re affiliated with the OKC team, it would make sense.[/quote]

    Was thinking Drillers had been a baseball team, but longtime Tulsa minor league team was the Oilers, right? And 89ers was OKC baseball, I think.[/quote]

    No, the Oilers is the Tulsa CHL minor-league hockey team. BB team has always been the Drillers.

  • Mike Engle | July 21, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”281071″][quote comment=”281054″]ANother one, which is a HUGE pet peeve of mine, sports related of course is “versing”

    Kid 1: What school are you versing today?
    Kid 2: We’re versing Spring Valley today!

    Aarrrgghh

    By the way, the Mets uni that Keith Hernandez was wearing in Phil’s link above looked pretty good![/quote]

    I’ve always loved the Mets away uniforms with those shoulder stripes, but I was never a fan of the cursive New York they used in 87. The 88 uniform was GREAT and the 1991 was their best ever.

    http://exhibits.base...

    http://exhibits.base...
    Funny you like THOSE Mets uniforms. I’m surprised they’re not too plain and boring for you. Furthermore, I’d think those roadies would be the universal objects of scorn among Mets fans. Don’t they remind you of some other New York professional baseball team?

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 4:55 pm |

    Even in the 50s?

  • Eric | July 21, 2008 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”281143″]
    As for the interstate shield design for a secondary logo, the Tulsa 66ers (D-League) use something similar. Since they’re affiliated with the OKC team, it would make sense.[/quote]

    Thanks. Didn’t realize there was already something beign used liked that. Really seems like you can’t too original anymore. There are so many leagues, current and defunct pro, semipro, collegiate, etc, that almost everything relevant to the area has already been done before.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”281149″]Even in the 50s?[/quote]
    I meant Tulsa baseball.

  • PHIL | July 21, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    The Oilers name now belong to the Tulsa CHL hockey team (who are sometimes referred to as the “Ice Oilers”). According to Ebbett’s Field Flannels, Tulsa used to have an Oilers baseball team, but that was long before my time.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”281152″]The Oilers name now belong to the Tulsa CHL hockey team (who are sometimes referred to as the “Ice Oilers”). According to Ebbett’s Field Flannels, Tulsa used to have an Oilers baseball team, but that was long before my time.[/quote]

    Okay, was pretty sure they’d been Oilers.

    “Tulsa returned to the Texas League in ’77, but the Oilers nickname was replaced by Drillers and a name used for 8 decades had fallen way by the wayside.”

    –from baseball-reference.com

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”281153″][quote comment=”281152″]The Oilers name now belong to the Tulsa CHL hockey team (who are sometimes referred to as the “Ice Oilers”). According to Ebbett’s Field Flannels, Tulsa used to have an Oilers baseball team, but that was long before my time.[/quote]

    Okay, was pretty sure they’d been Oilers.

    “Tulsa returned to the Texas League in ’77, but the Oilers nickname was replaced by Drillers and a name used for 8 decades had fallen way by the wayside.”

    –from baseball-reference.com[/quote]

    Check out the unis of Oilers as a Cardinal farm team. Birds and oil, not two things we call to mind together these days and envision pleasant circumstances.

    http://tulsatvmemori...

  • Pete | July 21, 2008 at 5:07 pm |

    I was at the Sox throwback game yesterday. I was thrilled to see Nick Swisher wearing the uniformly correct red cleats, as opposed to all the other Sox who wore there everyday blacks (see Joe Crede’s photo).

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    Hmmm…check out the hats, too. On Pepper Martin, for example.

    Looks like some kinds of grille work…or a bumper…something automotive…on either side of the “T”.

    Never seen that before.
    (alert Paul…any anyone else who might know what it is)

    http://tulsatvmemori...

  • dhrsko2 | July 21, 2008 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”281062″][quote comment=”281059″][quote comment=”281052″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    Been a White Sox fan all my life, and no one but no one knows what to call an individual player.

    A White Sox?
    A White Sock?
    A White Sox player?

    But, I gotta disagree with you. I dig names without an “s”… specifically ones that you think should have an “s”… like The Stanford Cardinal, The Orange, etc.[/quote]

    I exempt from my rule colleges with historical nicknames.[/quote]

    So would I, and was sort of alluding to their appropriatess for colleges exactly because there’s a legitimate history for such things.

    Love Green Wave, Thundering Herd and, yes, the newer ones such as Cardinal. Works in that context. In pros, no, not so good.[/quote]

    Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that the Stanford nickname is in reference to cardinal red, the school’s main color, in the same vein as the Harvard Crimson

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 5:19 pm |

    Yup, Stanford is in ref to the color.
    Since ’73.
    Before that they were the Indians.

  • Marty Met | July 21, 2008 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”281148″][quote comment=”281071″][quote comment=”281054″]ANother one, which is a HUGE pet peeve of mine, sports related of course is “versing”

    Kid 1: What school are you versing today?
    Kid 2: We’re versing Spring Valley today!

    Aarrrgghh

    By the way, the Mets uni that Keith Hernandez was wearing in Phil’s link above looked pretty good![/quote]

    I’ve always loved the Mets away uniforms with those shoulder stripes, but I was never a fan of the cursive New York they used in 87. The 88 uniform was GREAT and the 1991 was their best ever.

    http://exhibits.base...

    http://exhibits.base...
    Funny you like THOSE Mets uniforms. I’m surprised they’re not too plain and boring for you. Furthermore, I’d think those roadies would be the universal objects of scorn among Mets fans. Don’t they remind you of some other New York professional baseball team?[/quote]

    You can’t see the white in the illustration but there was a FANTASTIC 3 inch shoulder stripe of white, orange, blue, orange, white. Lineup with the pants stripe. How awesome was that? The lettering on the fron was White, Orange and Blue. It looked Nothing like the Yankees. And the Home pinstripe with that shoulder stripe was really nice.

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”281156″]Hmmm…check out the hats, too. On Pepper Martin, for example.

    Looks like some kinds of grille work…or a bumper…something automotive…on either side of the “T”.

    Never seen that before.
    (alert Paul…any anyone else who might know what it is)

    http://tulsatvmemori...

    Been enlarging as best I can. Have no idea what that is. Sweat stains? Are hats mesh and it’s the players HEADS that show?

    I’m stumped.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”281159″]You can’t see the white in the illustration but there was a FANTASTIC 3 inch shoulder stripe of white, orange, blue, orange, white. Lineup with the pants stripe. How awesome was that? The lettering on the fron was White, Orange and Blue. It looked Nothing like the Yankees. And the Home pinstripe with that shoulder stripe was really nice.[/quote]

    marty…i know it’s a year off, but are you talking about this?

    …personally, i hated those stripes

  • dhrsko2 | July 21, 2008 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”281158″]Yup, Stanford is in ref to the color.
    Since ’73.
    Before that they were the Indians.[/quote]

    Ah I didn’t know that history, and, of course, that explains the tree mascot…?

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”281162″][quote comment=”281158″]Yup, Stanford is in ref to the color.
    Since ’73.
    Before that they were the Indians.[/quote]

    Ah I didn’t know that history, and, of course, that explains the tree mascot…?[/quote]

    Always have assumed has something do do with the natural flora of the south Bay Area. A sequoia, maybe?

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”281162″][quote comment=”281158″]Yup, Stanford is in ref to the color.
    Since ’73.
    Before that they were the Indians.[/quote]

    Ah I didn’t know that history, and, of course, that explains the tree mascot…?[/quote]

    the tree mascot

    fascinating

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”281163″][quote comment=”281162″][quote comment=”281158″]Yup, Stanford is in ref to the color.
    Since ’73.
    Before that they were the Indians.[/quote]

    Ah I didn’t know that history, and, of course, that explains the tree mascot…?[/quote]

    Always have assumed has something do do with the natural flora of the south Bay Area. A sequoia, maybe?[/quote]

    It’s a redwood, “indicative of the Palo Alto area.”

  • BS | July 21, 2008 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”281047″]douggie…

    the brits tend to pluralize things such as “audience” while americans singularize them…

    eg…(brit) the audience were laughing…which sounds strange to our ears, but is, i believe, actually grammatically correct

    pet peeve of mine: people who singlarize latin plurals…for example…”data”…which is the plural of ‘datum’…so the “data were” or the “data are” NOT the “data was” or the “data is”

    OR…pluralize singlular by adding an “s” when also not correct:

    ‘medium’…television is a medium…radio and television are media not mediums

    grrrr[/quote]
    Hurrah for Webster, the man who single-handedly changed the English language (just to piss of the the Brits my Bio teacher would say)!

  • S. Bennett | July 21, 2008 at 6:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”281156″]Hmmm…check out the hats, too. On Pepper Martin, for example.

    Looks like some kinds of grille work…or a bumper…something automotive…on either side of the “T”.

    Never seen that before.
    (alert Paul…any anyone else who might know what it is)

    http://tulsatvmemori...

    Looks like it’s a full mesh hat. You se the white sweatband inside the hat.

  • Stuby | July 21, 2008 at 6:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”281158″]Yup, Stanford is in ref to the color.
    Since ’73.
    Before that they were the Indians.[/quote]
    They were Cardinals (plural) up until somewhere in the early-80s, though.

  • James Craven | July 21, 2008 at 6:12 pm |

    Flora should NEVER be considered as an official mascot IMHO. That’s the imfamous Stanford Band’s “mascot”, and has no official designation with the athletic department whatsoever from what I understand

  • James Craven | July 21, 2008 at 6:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”281144″]“From the department of nobody cares (outside of Durham)…”[/quote]

    Yeah, no one gives a Flying Wallenda about Dook Football. They just wait until late October when the REAL (basketball) season starts.

  • Jonathan Sluss | July 21, 2008 at 6:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”281135″][quote comment=”281128″][quote comment=”281125″][quote comment=”281058″][quote comment=”280963″]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I’m inclined to agree. Even though I’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the ’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in ’01 and ’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]

    I’m suprised people are busting on the VT jerseys. I know here lots of times anything new gets slammed, but in a day and age of Oregon, Oregon State and Miami jerseys the new VT jerseys could be a LOT worse. Anybody remember the one orange sleeve deal from a few years back? At least the jersey is symmetrical. It’s better than anything Under Armor has designed that’s for sure.[/quote]

    Those VT jerseys looked okay with pads. Better than I thought they would, anyway.

    For streetwear not so swift, though.[/quote]

    True, and as a Mason alum I would never be caught dead in anything orange and burgundy. And I was talking about how the jerseys would look on the field.[/quote]

    That’s MAROON and Orange (specifically Chicago Maroon and Burnt Orange)

  • MRB | July 21, 2008 at 6:37 pm |

    Can we do something about those sweatpants? Granted wearing baseball pants over the top, but I keep seeing those stirrups and then the sweatpants and it’s like a way hot girl playing Dungeons & Dragons – somehow, her hotness is devalued due to the company :P

  • LarenR | July 21, 2008 at 6:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”281165″][quote comment=”281163″][quote comment=”281162″][quote comment=”281158″]Yup, Stanford is in ref to the color.
    Since ’73.
    Before that they were the Indians.[/quote]

    Ah I didn’t know that history, and, of course, that explains the tree mascot…?[/quote]

    Always have assumed has something do do with the natural flora of the south Bay Area. A sequoia, maybe?[/quote]

    It’s a redwood, “indicative of the Palo Alto area.”[/quote]

    I grew up in Palo Alto, watching Stanford sports. First of all, the first sentence of the Wiki entry is wrong. While, the tree mascot has become associated with the university in general, it is actually just a mascot for the LSJUMB (Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band). The idea of the tree comes from the university seal which depicts “El Palo Alto,” a large redwood near downtown PA and the campus (it is also on the city seal).

  • Marty Met | July 21, 2008 at 7:22 pm |

    [quote comment=\”281161\”][quote comment=\”281159\”]You can\’t see the white in the illustration but there was a FANTASTIC 3 inch shoulder stripe of white, orange, blue, orange, white. Lineup with the pants stripe. How awesome was that? The lettering on the fron was White, Orange and Blue. It looked Nothing like the Yankees. And the Home pinstripe with that shoulder stripe was really nice.[/quote]

    marty…i know it\’s a year off, but are you talking about this?

    …personally, i hated those stripes[/quote]

    Jesus, Phil, Just become a Yankees fan and bask in the glory of the \”beloved\” pinstripes. Yeah. Those were some sweet uniforms.

  • who cares | July 21, 2008 at 7:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”281169″]Flora should NEVER be considered as an official mascot IMHO. That’s the imfamous Stanford Band’s “mascot”, and has no official designation with the athletic department whatsoever from what I understand[/quote]

    You’ve obviously been living under a rock for the last 97 years.

    http://upload.wikime...

  • C.N. | July 21, 2008 at 8:08 pm |

    Watching the Brewers-Cardinals game on ESPN — Tony La Russa is wearing regular (clear) glasses. Typically, he wears sunglasses, especially when it’s still light out, as it is now. Is this a new development, or has he been doing this for some time? (Paul, others?)

  • C.N. | July 21, 2008 at 8:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”281176″]Watching the Brewers-Cardinals game on ESPN — Tony La Russa is wearing regular (clear) glasses. Typically, he wears sunglasses, especially when it’s still light out, as it is now. Is this a new development, or has he been doing this for some time? (Paul, others?)[/quote]

    Oh, I forgot why this is important — La Russa usually wears sunglasses to give him a competitive advantage, so spies in the opposing dugout can’t see his eyes when he’s calling for a bunt, or pitchout, or so on. Paranoia, so to speak.

  • Dan | July 21, 2008 at 8:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”281041″][quote comment=”281036″][quote comment=”280987″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.

    Worse (or just as bad) names:

    Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)

    Tampa Rays
    Florida Marlins
    Colorado Rockies

    Houston Texans
    Miami Dolphins

    Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
    Miami Heat
    Utah Jazz
    Orlando Magic[/quote]

    notice how many of those teams are newer teams that are 20 or so years old[/quote]

    Yeah, I noticed that when I was writing it, plus alot of Florida teams. We haven’t had too many good expansion team names recently.[/quote]

    Oh heck no that the Houston Texans are a bad name. I see your point, but the logo and uniforms have turned out pretty good. One of those logos you immediately recognize.

    Ditto for Colorado Rockies. The alternate home vest with the CR logo on the chest is probably my favorite uniform in MLB.

    I agree with Charlotte Bobcats. It does sound like a minor league team.

  • C.N. | July 21, 2008 at 8:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”280999″][quote comment=”280975″][quote comment=”280958″][quote comment=”280955″]Virginia Tech made their new uniforms official at the ACC Meetings in Greensboro, GA. Here’s a photo of Sean Glennon and Orion Martin modeling the jerseys:
    http://www.hokiespor...

    is the NOB of glennon’s jersey in masking tape and sharpie?[/quote]

    Vulcan, Phil!
    http://www.collegiat...

    I don’t think anyone will want to steal those new Va Tech jerseys. Worst. uniforms. ever.[/quote]

    I think that’s a bit of an over-exaggeration. At least both sleeves are the same color.

  • Dan | July 21, 2008 at 8:14 pm |

    [quote comment=\”281128\”][quote comment=\”281125\”][quote comment=\”281058\”][quote comment=\”280963\”]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I\’m inclined to agree. Even though I\’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the \’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in \’01 and \’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]

    I\’m suprised people are busting on the VT jerseys. I know here lots of times anything new gets slammed, but in a day and age of Oregon, Oregon State and Miami jerseys the new VT jerseys could be a LOT worse. Anybody remember the one orange sleeve deal from a few years back? At least the jersey is symmetrical. It\’s better than anything Under Armor has designed that\’s for sure.[/quote]

    Those VT jerseys looked okay with pads. Better than I thought they would, anyway.

    For streetwear not so swift, though.[/quote]

    It\’s a definate improvement over the previous design, but still not quite there. I\’m surprised that no orange alternate jersey has been introduced. I\’d like to see orange pants paired with the maroon jersey.

  • Marcus from B-More | July 21, 2008 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”281029″][quote comment=”281024″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    “i’m a red sock”

    doesn’t quite ring right, but i guess that’s technically correct, although i’ve heard the espnitards say “he’s a red sox”, which…well…doesn’t sound right either…

    my theory, which has prolly always been wrong, is that there is no “i” in team, so one is never, individually, anything…one is a MEMBER of said team…

    to wit…

    wrong: “i’m a met”…
    right: “i’m a member of the mets”

    im sure i’m wrong here, but that’s the way i always viewed the plural/singular of team names[/quote]

    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out![/quote]

    sad to say, but i don;t watch the wire (shooulders shrugged!!)

  • James Craven | July 21, 2008 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”281175″]“You’ve obviously been living under a rock for the last 97 years.”

    Mascots and insignias are two different types of items. Do you really think i was born yesterday? I was objecting on the use of a tree as a human mascot, not as a logo.

  • Michael Emody | July 21, 2008 at 9:49 pm |

    Does this look blue to anyone?
    http://farm4.static....
    (though it took a while for me to notice…)

  • Ricko | July 21, 2008 at 9:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”281167″][quote comment=”281156″]Hmmm…check out the hats, too. On Pepper Martin, for example.

    Looks like some kinds of grille work…or a bumper…something automotive…on either side of the “T”.

    Never seen that before.
    (alert Paul…any anyone else who might know what it is)

    http://tulsatvmemori...

    Looks like it’s a full mesh hat. You se the white sweatband inside the hat.[/quote]

    Would almost have to be. But a full mesh hat in the mid 60s? Not that I ever saw. They (even mesh BACK hats)didn’t come until the mid-70s.

    I know the first team of mine that ever wore them was 1977, and they hadn’t been around for a decade or more before that, that’s for sure.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 10:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”281174″][quote comment=\”281161\”][quote comment=\”281159\”]You can\’t see the white in the illustration but there was a FANTASTIC 3 inch shoulder stripe of white, orange, blue, orange, white. Lineup with the pants stripe. How awesome was that? The lettering on the fron was White, Orange and Blue. It looked Nothing like the Yankees. And the Home pinstripe with that shoulder stripe was really nice.[/quote]

    marty…i know it\’s a year off, but are you talking about this?

    …personally, i hated those stripes[/quote]

    Jesus, Phil, Just become a Yankees fan and bask in the glory of the \”beloved\” pinstripes. Yeah. Those were some sweet uniforms.[/quote]

    while i certainly can’t speak for mr. lukas (or any other met fan on the board), i’d be willing to bet there is not a single one on here who feels the racing stripes was the mets’ best uni

    not by a long shot…

    and ya know what…the yanks DO have the best uni in the game…and it pains me to say that

    deeply

    doesn’t mean i’ll ever like the team, but i still have enough perspective to admit their uni kicks ass

    /btw…those unis look especially good tonight kicking the everloving shit out of the twinkies in their softball tops (sorry ricko)

  • JKlopp | July 21, 2008 at 10:07 pm |

    In the White Sox throwback game Sunday, pitcher D.J. Carrasco didn’t have his number on his pants like everybody else. He had just gotten called up, so I guess the uniform crew wasn’t ready for him.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”281181″][quote comment=”281029″][quote comment=”281024″][quote comment=”281017″]There is an old story that underlies why sports team names should end in “s” or an “s” sound.

    Back in the old days, some player for the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team met the Pope or a bishop. He introduced himself, saying “I’m a Cardinal,” befuddling the Pope or bishop.

    Kind of funny, and better as written in the book where I first read about it years ago. I got a kick out of it.

    Getting back to my point, a player should always be able to say, “I’m a ________.” It is a simple standard.

    Do any of these work:

    “I’m a thunder.” No.
    “I’m a jazz.” No.
    “I’m a lightning.” No.[/quote]

    “i’m a red sock”

    doesn’t quite ring right, but i guess that’s technically correct, although i’ve heard the espnitards say “he’s a red sox”, which…well…doesn’t sound right either…

    my theory, which has prolly always been wrong, is that there is no “i” in team, so one is never, individually, anything…one is a MEMBER of said team…

    to wit…

    wrong: “i’m a met”…
    right: “i’m a member of the mets”

    im sure i’m wrong here, but that’s the way i always viewed the plural/singular of team names[/quote]

    As some of the UWers her know, I am a huge fan of “The Wire”, the acclaimed HBO series set in Baltimore.

    What always sounded off to me was how the characters were refer to law enforcement officials as “a police”!

    Marcus from B-More, Rick, or Joe Hilseberg, help me out![/quote]

    sad to say, but i don;t watch the wire (shooulders shrugged!!)[/quote]

    Marcus, we’ve discussed the wire before, I was more interested in the unique ballmer usage of the word police

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”281179″][quote comment=”280999″][quote comment=”280975″][quote comment=”280958″][quote comment=”280955″]Virginia Tech made their new uniforms official at the ACC Meetings in Greensboro, GA. Here’s a photo of Sean Glennon and Orion Martin modeling the jerseys:
    http://www.hokiespor...

    is the NOB of glennon’s jersey in masking tape and sharpie?[/quote]

    Vulcan, Phil!
    http://www.collegiat...

    I don’t think anyone will want to steal those new Va Tech jerseys. Worst. uniforms. ever.[/quote]

    I think that’s a bit of an over-exaggeration. At least both sleeves are the same color.[/quote]

    I’m not disliking them that much either.
    And yes, the throwbacks that they wore a few years back were gorgeous, what wouldn’t be with that great color combination!

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote]La Russa usually wears sunglasses to give him a competitive advantage[/quote]

    or while driving at night

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”281178″][quote comment=”281041″][quote comment=”281036″][quote comment=”280987″][quote comment=”280979″]”A source close to the NBA ownership group tells KOCO SportsXtra’s Mark Rodgers the city’s franchise, formerly known as the Seattle Supersonics, will be called the Oklahoma City Thunder”

    Any thoughts on the rumored name of “Thunder”? Has to be one of the worst team names ever![/quote]

    Does have a ‘minor league’ ring to it.

    Worse (or just as bad) names:

    Anaheim Ducks (Worse when they were ‘mighty’)
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    Tampa Bay Lightning (also has minor league ring to it)

    Tampa Rays
    Florida Marlins
    Colorado Rockies

    Houston Texans
    Miami Dolphins

    Charlotte Bobcats (minor league feel)
    Miami Heat
    Utah Jazz
    Orlando Magic[/quote]

    notice how many of those teams are newer teams that are 20 or so years old[/quote]

    Yeah, I noticed that when I was writing it, plus alot of Florida teams. We haven’t had too many good expansion team names recently.[/quote]

    Oh heck no that the Houston Texans are a bad name. I see your point, but the logo and uniforms have turned out pretty good. One of those logos you immediately recognize.

    Ditto for Colorado Rockies. The alternate home vest with the CR logo on the chest is probably my favorite uniform in MLB.

    I agree with Charlotte Bobcats. It does sound like a minor league team.[/quote]

    Especially when the nickname is simply a play on the owner’s name!

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 10:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”281190″][quote comment=”281178″]I agree with Charlotte Bobcats. It does sound like a minor league team.[/quote]

    Especially when the nickname is simply a play on the owner’s name![/quote]

    i still say it would have been way better (not to mention ballsier) to have called them the carolina johnsons

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 10:31 pm |

    Jack Wilson is showing socks off tonight. Can’t recall if he’s done this after the AS break or if it’s because he wants a change of pace after dropping 4 straight to Colorado.

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 10:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”281192″]Jack Wilson is showing socks off tonight. Can’t recall if he’s done this after the AS break or if it’s because he wants a change of pace after dropping 4 straight to Colorado.[/quote]
    quick check of yahoo showed that he wore long pants on friday and saturday

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:45 pm |

    For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 10:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”281194″]For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    nike sox and no stirrups?

    fuck that…make your own fucking stirrups

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”281195″][quote comment=”281194″]For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    nike sox and no stirrups?

    fuck that…make your own fucking stirrups[/quote]

    I’ve got stirrups, but they don’t match

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 10:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”281196″][quote comment=”281195″][quote comment=”281194″]For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    nike sox and no stirrups?

    fuck that…make your own fucking stirrups[/quote]

    I’ve got stirrups, but they don’t match[/quote]

    would that be a nike sock or a nike sox?

  • James Craven | July 21, 2008 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”281191″]“I still say it would have been way better (not to mention ballsier) to have called them the Carolina Johnsons.”[/quote]

    Did you mean “ballsier” as a pun, Philip?

  • James Craven | July 21, 2008 at 10:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”280953″]“Here’s a history of the #1 fan hand.”[/quote]

    http://www.designboo...

    Gotta love the 12th and 13th illustrations.

    The Shocker and the Stone Cold Salute.

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”281197″][quote comment=”281196″][quote comment=”281195″][quote comment=”281194″]For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    nike sox and no stirrups?

    fuck that…make your own fucking stirrups[/quote]

    I’ve got stirrups, but they don’t match[/quote]

    would that be a nike sock or a nike sox?[/quote]

    Dos Mas:
    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • MPowers1634 | July 21, 2008 at 11:06 pm |

    http://i256.photobuc...

    “This isn’t im my contract, Lou!”

  • Morgan | July 21, 2008 at 11:10 pm |

    The old Baltimore Bullets unis were sweet! It also gives me the chance to drop my favorite piece of useless sports knowledge. When the Baltimore Bullets moved to Washington DC the team’s name was the only one in the four major leagues to use every vowel only once: Washington Bullets. A feat lost when they were renamed the Wizards.

  • LI Phil | July 21, 2008 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”281199″][quote comment=”280953″]“Here’s a history of the #1 fan hand.”[/quote]

    http://www.designboo...

    Gotta love the 12th and 13th illustrations.

    The Shocker and the Stone Cold Salute.[/quote]

    and ’99 asshole

  • Kek | July 21, 2008 at 11:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”281197″][quote comment=”281196″][quote comment=”281195″][quote comment=”281194″]For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    nike sox and no stirrups?

    fuck that…make your own fucking stirrups[/quote]

    I’ve got stirrups, but they don’t match[/quote]

    would that be a nike sock or a nike sox?[/quote]
    Well, from the looks of that one photo, it looks like you play in a league with other players dressed similarly (red UA socks) and that’s fine. If you play in a shorts/sweats t-shirt league I would think you’re trying to hard. Just my opinion.

    And of course you score points with the Pirates hat, even if it’s for your team’s name and has nothing to do with the Pirates per se.

  • Kek | July 22, 2008 at 12:00 am |

    [quote comment=”281204″][quote comment=”281197″][quote comment=”281196″][quote comment=”281195″][quote comment=”281194″]For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    nike sox and no stirrups?

    fuck that…make your own fucking stirrups[/quote]

    I’ve got stirrups, but they don’t match[/quote]

    would that be a nike sock or a nike sox?[/quote]
    Well, from the looks of that one photo, it looks like you play in a league with other players dressed similarly (red UA socks) and that’s fine. If you play in a shorts/sweats t-shirt league I would think you’re trying to hard. Just my opinion.

    And of course you score points with the Pirates hat, even if it’s for your team’s name and has nothing to do with the Pirates per se.[/quote]
    Of course that should be trying “too” hard.

  • Shawn | July 22, 2008 at 1:09 am |

    [quote comment=”281071″][quote comment=”281054″]

    By the way, the Mets uni that Keith Hernandez was wearing in Phil’s link above looked pretty good![/quote]

    I’ve always loved the Mets away uniforms with those shoulder stripes, but I was never a fan of the cursive New York they used in 87. The 88 uniform was GREAT and the 1991 was their best ever.

    http://exhibits.base...

    http://exhibits.base...

    The ’88-90 road uni rocked. They’re a booger to find, too. I was elated when I found a replica that would fit me on ebay a few months ago. The few I had found to that point were either way too big or of the uber-expensive certified-game-used variety.

    MOHO on the racing stripes is that they were sharp on the greys, but made the home pins too busy. I never really liked them after they went to button-ups and lost the blue collar. It looked as if the racing stripes just disappeared into some trans-dimensional warp once they got to the player’s neck.

  • S. Bennett | July 22, 2008 at 2:11 am |

    [quote comment=”281194″]For all of you, Kek, who need some tutelage on how to look good on the softball diamond:

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Looking good on teh softball diamond = lookng cool at teh Dungeons and Gragons club.

    You’re playing Coca-Cola fat-boy slob ball. Ain’t nothing going to make that look important.

    Come to terms with it.

    SB

  • Group29 | July 23, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    Who was your source on the UCLA uniforms? My understanding was that Red Sanders chose the powder blue to make the Bruins show up better on B/W film and television, as the previous blue looked black. Also, with the shoulder stripes and white Clarendon typeface numbers, the UCLA Bruins uniforms were quite distinguishable from visitor white jerseys. If you look at black and white pictures of UCLA football, it is pretty clear that they are not wearing white uniforms, as the white stripes and numbers stand out.

  • Jonathan Sluss | July 23, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”281180″][quote comment=\”281128\”][quote comment=\”281125\”][quote comment=\”281058\”][quote comment=\”280963\”]2 things:

    1- those VT jerseys are hideous
    …[/quote]

    I\’m inclined to agree. Even though I\’m a recent alum I would like to see them go back to a design similar to the one they wore in the \’60s:
    http://spec.lib.vt.e...

    I liked when they wore them a couple of times as throwbacks in \’01 and \’02

    (and yes #25 is a young Frank Beamer[/quote]

    I\’m suprised people are busting on the VT jerseys. I know here lots of times anything new gets slammed, but in a day and age of Oregon, Oregon State and Miami jerseys the new VT jerseys could be a LOT worse. Anybody remember the one orange sleeve deal from a few years back? At least the jersey is symmetrical. It\’s better than anything Under Armor has designed that\’s for sure.[/quote]

    Those VT jerseys looked okay with pads. Better than I thought they would, anyway.

    For streetwear not so swift, though.[/quote]

    It\’s a definate improvement over the previous design, but still not quite there. I\’m surprised that no orange alternate jersey has been introduced. I\’d like to see orange pants paired with the maroon jersey.[/quote]

    They’ve done about every color combination at some point in Beamer’s time, however, orange jerseys have been banned since their last appearance (and allegedly burned after the game) after a not so great effort the last time they were displayed details in the 18th paragraph here: http://hokieupdate.c...