Yeah, But Did You Go To The Zoo?

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By Bryan Redemske

Florida State was eliminated from the College World Series on Monday night, robbing a national television audience of the chance to see an all-yellow uniform. Of course, that loss also took away viewing opportunities for five other unseen Florida State jerseys. You know, because they have eight different jerseys.

Eight jerseys. Remember when the Marlins came into the National League in 1993 with multiple jerseys and hats? What seemed like overkill then is pretty much par for the course at the College World Series. The roots are likely in the laundry room, where uniforms would have to be washed after every game of a three-game road trip. And, let’s face it, doing laundry all night sucks. So why not bring another uniform set? Or maybe two extra sets! Perfect!

Or how about eight? Now you’re onto something. Here’s a team-by-team look at this year’s College World Series:

Stanford — It’s best to get the Cardinal out of the way early, because it’s the simplest. Here’s the entire wardrobe: home, away. That’s it. Note the pullover tops, remnants of a long-ago era and now part of the program’s tradition. Also note the black front number on the home uniform. It’s the only black on either set, and seems out of place. But that’s also a longstanding tradition [plus it's in keeping with, say, the red number on the front of the Dodgers' jersey, which has no chromatic reference anywhere else in the team's uniform system -- PL].

LSU — Speaking of longstanding tradition … Omaha felt strange without LSU fans milling about, drinking all of our beer. The Tigers are back, and they brought their purple and yellow along. The yellow jerseys are the same as they were in the late-1990s glory days, while the whites are similar. There’s a purple jersey in the wardrobe, but LSU has stuck to yellow and white over the last month or so.

Fresno State — Here’s the surprise team of the series. From an attire standpoint, it’s probably my favorite. The Bulldogs have four jerseys (white, gray, blue, and red), two pairs of pants, and two hats. But everything matches, so any combination can be worn together. It’s like Oregon football, but without the whioe burning-retina thing. Also, the Bulldogs appear to have merit stickers on their helmets. Or else a pox of some sort. [Late-breaking footnote from reader Dana Czerwinski, who points out that the Bulldogs also seem to have some button issues. And eagle-eyed Hunter Franks has spotted something interesting: a "TM" symbol on the team's cap. -- PL]

Rice — The Owls keep it simple, with “Rice” across the front of their jerseys in Old English. It’s the same on the home and away sets, and also the blue alternate. There’s a pinstriped set this year, too, but it doesn’t come out much. I like it as a complement to their other jerseys. Same for the blue alt — nice.

Georgia — Beware, we’re deep into Nike territory here. Sure, Fresno State is a Nike school, too, but not like this. The armpit-stains jersey is here, and it won’t get better until this entry is done. There’s lots of it ahead. Georgia wears white jerseys and caps most of the time but went with the red alternate for the CWS opener. That’s the second red jersey they’ve worn this season — here’s the other. It looks like they got a new one halfway through the schedule, as the script one hasn’t been seen in a while. There’s also a gray uniform and a black jersey kicking around somewhere, along with a red-crowned hat with a black bill. The Nike pits thing is troublesome, but because of that cut, teams with those jerseys are forced to compress or shrink their logos or wordmarks on the front, which effectively clutters the hell out of things.

Florida State — Eight jerseys, huh? Here they are: White, pinstriped, white again, gray, pinstriped gray, red, yellow. Okay, that’s only seven — there’s another red jersey, too, but pics are hard to find. I really like the “FS” logo jerseys, which are the most current set. The others, with “Seminoles” across the front and Nike pits on the side, can go away any time now. Oh, like Monday … ouch.

North Carolina — The Tar Heels have undergone the same unneccessary uniform explosion as Florida State. But, sadly, they fell short of the eight-jersey mark. UNC has three white jerseys (and two different vests), one Carolina blue top, one navy top, and one gray jersey. Not sure if last year’s godawful black model might be available, too. And let’s not forget the two different white caps, the navy blue cap, the gray cap, and the Carolina Blue cap. Maybe we should. This makes me long for the days of old. Or just makes me like Stanford more.

Miami — Finally, the Hurricanes are here to calm the waters with a mere six jerseys. That includes, of course, a sleeved and sleeveless version of the same jersey, à la the Twins. Then there’s green, orange, gray, and — regrettably — black. Always with the black.

And that’s the College World Series, minus paying $20 to park on some dude’s lawn and then walking a mile to the stadium, or $7 for a milkshake (after waiting in line for 30 minutes), and then, finally, coming home with severe sunburn on half of your body. I love June.

While we’re on the CWS, though, here’s a note from Elena Elms, who spotted a uni-related item on this Q&A page. Here’s the pertinent passage

Q. So I was wondering…what’s up with the Michael Jackson approach to Carolina baseball? I’ve noticed that the position players wear a single white glove underneath their fielding gloves. The gloves look similar to batting gloves. I was wondering, what’s Nike’s newest baseball innovation? I guess they must be effective, because I’ve seen a variety of the players wearing them; including this past weekend, where I’m surprised that the gloves didn’t permanently fuse to their hands as a result of the sweltering heat.

A. For the last two years, Nike has picked a color to emphasize with their college baseball apparel and equipment. In 2007, that color was black, which resulted in a major Tar Heels abomination. The company also produced black bats that were used — with a varying degree of enthusiasm — by several players last year. This season, the color of choice is white. That means white bats, white batting gloves (which is what Jennifer noticed), and even white spikes. As you might have noticed, Nike sent the Tar Heels some custom white spikes with Carolina blue accents that are a vast improvement over last year’s black jerseys. The white shoes made the trip to Omaha, and it’s a safe bet that you could see them at some point during the College World Series. What’s next for Nike? I don’t know, but let’s hope their color choice for 2009 isn’t red.”

Wait, Nike issues blanket colors and templates to every team it supplies? No way! Thanks for the tip, Elena.

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Second Time Around: Paul here, with a buttload of follow-ups. First, regarding my newly acquired vintage jersey of uncertain origin (left), several people wrote in to say it looks a basketball warm-up shirt. “Yeah,” I told all such correspondents, “but how do you explain the uni number, since 7 isn’t kosher for scholastic hoops?”

That pretty much stumped everyone, except for Terry Proctor, who responded, “Up until 1962, high school basketball players could wear the digits 6,7,8, and 9 in any combination. But starting with the 1961-62 season, those digits became illegal for use (that rule is still in effect for high school and college basketball). So a player wearing #7 in the 1950s is entirely feasible. The rules were made by the National Federation of High School Sports Federations (NFHS) and the NCAA, which usually parallel each other’s rules changes.”

I hadn’t known when that rule went into effect. Also hadn’t suspected that the jersey was pre-1961 (I figured mid- to late ’60s). As for Terry, he added, “I know a little about athletic uniforms — I’ve been selling them since 1967. My friend and I do mostly high school and junior league teams in the Rochester area. I worked in Rochester for 23 years at the former Ruby’s Sporting Goods. We used to outfit the Rochester Americans hockey team.” I asked if he’d be willing to do a Uni Watch interview, and he quickly agreed, so expect to hear more from him later on.

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Meanwhile, reader Paul Kosman has helped establish a new benchmark for the earliest appearance of the ® symbol on the Cubs’ jersey logo. My previous working date has been 1982, but Paul provided me with this 1981 card. The photo had to have been taken in either 1979 or, more likely, 1980 (prior to 1979, the Cubs’ chest logo had a narrower blue circle, and there was no red circle on the chest patch), so 1980 is my new benchmark. Paul’s theory is that the trademark symbol arrived along with the thicker blue circle in 1979 — a good hypothesis, if we can prove it. For now, though, I’m going with 1980.

It’s worth noting, by the way, that someone had suggested in last Friday’s comments that the Tribune Company might have imposed the ® symbol after they bought the team. But that ownership change took place in 1981, so this latest visual evidence would appear to blow a hole in that theory. Meanwhile, just for fun, Paul also scanned the covers of the Cubs’ 1977 and ’78 media guides, which, as you can see, underwent their own ®-symbolic evolution.

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Finally, I suddenly got a flurry of returned calls yesterday from the Chicago Athletic Association. First I heard from their attorney, who wanted to make sure I wasn’t doing some sort of exposé. Then I heard from their COO, Rich Wharton, who pointed me toward their historian, Ron White, who agreed to answer my questions about the connection between the CAA logo and the Cubs logo.

Ron turned out to be a real character. I don’t know if he smokes a pipe, is absent-minded, or wears a corduroy jacket with suede elbow patches, but let’s just say none of that would surprise me. Amidst lots of unrelated ramblings about woodpeckers, track meets, and Germans masquerading as Poles, he managed to convey the following points:

• The CAA adopted a red “C” logo on a white field in March of 1892.

• About six months after that, they added a black circle around the C.

• In 1908, it was proposed that the black circle be changed to blue, because blue would look better when rendered in stained glass, but the club’s membership voted down this change.

• In 1916 and ’17, prior to America’s entry in the first World War, there was a huge outpouring of patriotism and support for the French and British air forces, which were fighting the Germans in Europe. Both those air fleets used red, white, and blue roundels on their fighter planes — red with a blue center for the French and blue with a red center for the Brits (for more on roundels, look here). The CAA decided to change their black circle to blue as part of this wave of support.

• William Wrigley, who’d been a CAA member since 1895, was part of a syndicate that purchased the Cubs in 1916 (he became the principal owner after buying out other shares in 1920). But it’s not clear exactly when or how he began using the CAA logo as part of the Cubs’ identity system — Ron said the logo just sort of “drifted” into the team’s graphics, “and no one ever questioned it, because [Wrigley] was part of the [CAA].” But when exactly did this drift take place? If you look at the team’s uniform progression beginning with 1916, you’ll see that the now-familiar red “C” didn’t appear on the team’s uni until 1937. Even more confusingly, the team used a similar C way back in 1908 and a “C-ubs” treatment in 1909, well before Wrigley was involved with the team. It’s unclear whether these marks had anything to do with the CAA. It’s also unclear whether Wrigley used the CAA-derived mark — i.e., the one with the red C — for non-uniform purposes (programs, signage, stationery, etc.) between 1916 and 1937. If anyone has has any pre-1937 documents showing the Cubs using CAA-inspired graphics, please let me know.

Ron promised to send me copies of some early paperwork relating to the CAA logo, so hopefully I’ll have some additional info soon. Based on my conversations with him, though, it’s clear to me that there was never any sort of legal arrangement between the CAA and the Cubs. So the ® on the Cubs’ uniform has nothing to do with the CAA.

Incidentally, those people who first advocated the blue circle back in 1908 were right about the stained glass.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Awesome DIY project by Jeff Barak, who writes: “When I was a kid I bought several of the 1973 Fleer Baseball Big Signs. As an adult, I was able to add a few of the missing ones at a baseball card show, and I eventually got the rest of them off of eBay. But a couple of teams changed logos shortly after the set of signs came out and, as time passed, more expansion teams joined MLB, so my set of signs again started to feel incomplete. So I decided to make an ‘update set’ for the Fleer Big Signs in the style of the originals.” Jeff eventually showed his creations to JC Helf, webmaster of the completely amazing Fleer Sticker Project site, who featured Jeff’s designs in a recent entry. You can also see JC’s entry on the original Big Signs series here — all highly recommended. … Interesting tidbit in the middle of this story about Yadier Molina’s latest injury. The relevant passage (spotted by Ryan Johnston) reads, “Molina had a mild concussion in September of last season, prompting bullpen catcher Jeff Murphy to improvise a hybrid catcher’s mask. For better protection, he merged the shell of the hockey-style mask with the padding from a traditional mask. … Since the Wings beat the Pens, Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell had to settle a bet by wearing a Wings sweater. Details here (with thanks to Morris Levin). … Hadn’t seen this before: gumball-style helmets modeled after the Riddell Revolution design (big thanks to Greg Riffenburgh). … “Took this photo over the weekend during the introductions of a softball all-star game,” writes Steve Johnston. “Kind of speaks for itself. Love the expressions from the girls standing in line next to her.” … When the Bills play occasional home games in Toronto over the next five years, they’ll be wearing this patch. Details here. There’s also some discussion about possibly adding a uni-borne memorial for Tim Russert. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Georgia Tech football uni poll here. … I was walking through an Italian neighborhood in the Bronx yesterday afternoon when a lot of yelling and cheering emerged from a bar. Maybe it was because Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday (thanks, Bryan). … In case you missed it, Mets GM Omar Minaya, asked why he fired Willie Randolph at the team’s hotel instead of at the stadium, said, “I don’t believe in firing a manager after the game in uniform,” becaus that would be a “disrespect.” So after losing his first game as interium skipper last night, Jerry Manuel quipped, “I made it through. I’m going to have to sleep in this uniform, though.”

 

174 comments to Yeah, But Did You Go To The Zoo?

  • Josh Petty | June 18, 2008 at 7:46 am |

    In NCAA baseball (possibly just the postseason) the home team is required to wear its white uniforms. I don’t remember the specifics of that rule, but I heard them talking about it during the Super Regionals on ESPN.

    On the Celtics championship hats, Adidas put the 3 stripes on the underbill

  • Josh Petty | June 18, 2008 at 7:54 am |

    Great entry! I love the College World Series! One of my lifelong goals (granted I’m only 22) is to go down to Omaha some year for the length of the entire World Series and get to as many games as I can. That would just be an amazing 10 or so days.

  • Josh Petty | June 18, 2008 at 8:11 am |

    The NC logo on the Tar Heels’ pinstriped vest really looks out of place to me, and it has ever since I’ve seen those unis. Obviously, it’s more traditional to have the chest logo on the other side of the chest.

    Here’s a link to the 2007 NCAA Baseball rulebook…
    http://www.ncaa.org/...

    The Uniform section starts on page 25, interesting stuff.

    Players and coaches are allowed to wear team jackets, only UNDER the team jersey if the colors on the jacket are the same as the teams undershirts.

    There are size requirements for manufacturer logos. Not to mention uniforms can only contain a single manufacturer logo. There can be multiple logos (of course!) but teams can’t use multiple manufacturers.

    I’m still looking for the white jersey home team rule. As I said, I heard it mentioned on ESPN during the Super Regionals

  • Josh Petty | June 18, 2008 at 8:12 am |

    [quote comment="276029"]The NC logo on the Tar Heels’ pinstriped vest really looks out of place to me, and it has ever since I’ve seen those unis. Obviously, it’s more traditional to have the chest logo on the other side of the chest.

    Here’s a link to the 2007 NCAA Baseball rulebook…
    http://www.ncaa.org/...

    The Uniform section starts on page 25, interesting stuff.

    Players and coaches are allowed to wear team jackets, only UNDER the team jersey if the colors on the jacket are the same as the teams undershirts.

    There are size requirements for manufacturer logos. Not to mention uniforms can only contain a single manufacturer logo. There can be multiple logos (of course!) but teams can’t use multiple manufacturers.

    I’m still looking for the white jersey home team rule. As I said, I heard it mentioned on ESPN during the Super Regionals[/quote]

    Correction, the uni stuff starts on page 24, not page 25

  • Roger | June 18, 2008 at 8:27 am |

    The LSU gold jerseys are similar to the ’96 jerseys, but they’re not the same. The “TIGERS” font is different on the front, and the numbers are drop-shadowed on the front and back. Also, there’s a white-and-purple stripe at the bottom of the sleeves, while the ’96 version had no sleeve stripes.There are other LSU uniforms (including a white cap with a purple bill) that probably won’t see the light of day in Omaha. LSU has gone with gold for the most part since their 23-game winning streak began (that streak was broken by UC Irvine in the super regional). Here are the other ones that you probably won’t see:

    Purple jersey: Similar to the gold jersey, but with no sleeve stripes.

    Pinstriped uniform: LSU cap logo on one top corner, uniform number on opposite bottom corner of jersey.

    Gray uniform: Actually haven’t seen a photo of that this year, but I think the Tigers wore them for Friday games during SEC road series. That’s been their tradition the last year or two.

    Throwback cap/uniform: Last year of Alex Box Stadium brought out a retro uni: Cream white top with heavy purple stripe around the collar and down the jersey. Purple “L” on one side of the jersey. Purple cap with white “L.”

  • Roger | June 18, 2008 at 8:29 am |

    And I forgot to mention that the LSU throwback uniform also has cream-colored pants to go with the cream-colored jersey.

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 8:40 am |

    Great work, Bryan! I hope you and yours are all safe and dry in the MidWest!

    Those Black unis of UNC were unnecessary!

    Here are pics of the White Carolina cleats, the Niks Shox Fuse:

    http://i258.photobuc...

    FSU: Garnet, Gold, and OVERKILL

    Is it me or do a handful of the CWS players resemble El Sid?

    http://farm4.static....

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    Edit:

    UNC’s cleats have a caged zoom air sole not a Shox plate!

    By the way, just as the Bowl games highlight Nike’s gear for the upcoming season, so does the CWS.

    Many of the players on teams like UNC, FSU, Miami, and UGA are wearing next year’s high-end models of cleats:

    For example:

    The Nike MVP:
    http://i30.tinypic.c...

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    http://espn-i.starwa...

    http://i258.photobuc...

    And the Nike Swingman Remix, Junior’s Signature cleat:

    http://espn-i.starwa...

    http://espn-i.starwa...

    Jimmy Rollins wearing a PE pair, ALL PICS COURTESY OF MARK MIHALIK, the GURU of Baseball cleats, whom I plagiarized these pics from!

    This one was actually taken by Mark at the Phillies/red Sox game the other night!

    http://i258.photobuc...

    http://i258.photobuc...
    http://i30.tinypic.c...

  • Original Jim | June 18, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    Bryan, those FSU uniforms look gold to me, not yellow. LSU’s uniforms are much closer to yellow than the Seminoles.

    The Seminoles gold also seems muted, almost dirty, similar to the basketball alts worn by Boston College this season.

  • Rick | June 18, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    Not exactly uni-related, but still…
    The Mets think it’s disrespectful to fire someone ‘on the job’. However they have no such quarrels about firing him in the middle of the night? And right after the first game of a road trip? That’s is respect for you right there…

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    Orlando Hudson of the D-Backs has been sighted wearing the Griffey Remixes as well:

    http://img504.images...

    http://img293.images...

    Another J-Roll, who ALWAYS has the SICKEST Nike PE gear from batting gloves to fielding gloves, the whole ball of wax:

    http://i31.tinypic.c...

    Check out a cool pic of some old PE cleats:
    http://aycu22.websho...

    If you want more info on the Swingman Remix, check out this thread over on NT:

    http://niketalk.yuku...

    http://i31.tinypic.c...

  • scott | June 18, 2008 at 9:10 am |

    The Dodgers may not have red anywhere else on their uniforms besides the front number, but their script logo with the baseball shining over “Dodgers” contains a considerable amount of red.

  • Robert | June 18, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    Excellent review of the CWS teams. Outstanding. Thanks.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | June 18, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment="276037"]Not exactly uni-related, but still…
    The Mets think it’s disrespectful to fire someone ‘on the job’. However they have no such quarrels about firing him in the middle of the night? And right after the first game of a road trip? That’s is respect for you right there…[/quote]

    My sentiments exactly!

    Hey, maybe the Mets are trying to do it “better” than the Yankees (Yogi, Billy Martin, Joe Torre, etc, etc, etc).

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    I know that you\’re all sneaker-phobic on UW…but it is my area of expertise, so I am sharing info:

    Here is the catalogue pic of Junior\’s kicks:

    http://i258.photobuc...

    http://i258.photobuc...

    You all need to check out the Photoshopped vesions of the catalogue pic for possible ideations of the cleat done by an EXTREMELY talented designer:

    Scroll down to the middle of this page:

    http://niketalk.yuku...

  • Mark in Shiga | June 18, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    Great review indeed, and I’m digging that Fresno State number font. The Hanshin Tigers used something similar years ago.

    Boo to Minaya for the way he fired Randolph. I don’t see what’s so respectful about doing it at the hotel in the middle of the night and what’s so disrespectful about doing it after a game. If you fire a guy when he’s out of uniform, he7s deprived of being aware of what was his last moment in uniform, in the clubhouse, as part of the team. Fire him while he’s still got the jersey on so that he can take a last look around and appreciate what he had.

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment="276042"]You all need to check out the Photoshopped vesions of the catalogue pic for possible ideations of the cleat done by an EXTREMELY talented designer[/quote]

    we need to what?

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    BTW….did y’all see this Juinior story?

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

  • Joe Hilseberg | June 18, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    Great to see Baltimore’s mayor Sheila Dixon is taking the opportunity to flash the UA gear while her house is raided!

    http://www.baltimore...

    And BTW, I went to the greatest O’s promo night ever last night…Wild Bill Hagy T-shirt night! The shirt was historically inaccurate and had mistakes all over it, but hey, still a great time!

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment="276044"][quote comment="276042"]You all need to check out the Photoshopped vesions of the catalogue pic for possible ideations of the cleat done by an EXTREMELY talented designer[/quote]

    we need to what?[/quote]

    If you’re so inclined…follow the link and peruse the (ideations), different versions, of the photoshopped cleats!

    Excuse me, Mr. Grammar policeman!!!

    Here is an Air Max sneaker version of said shoes:

    http://i25.tinypic.c...

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment="276044"][quote comment="276042"]You all need to check out the Photoshopped vesions of the catalogue pic for possible ideations of the cleat done by an EXTREMELY talented designer[/quote]

    we need to what?[/quote]

    well that worked out well…stupid cookies

    lets try that again

    we need to what?

  • Ryan B | June 18, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    This is from the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship Handbook:
    The home team shall occupy the third-base dugout, take infield practice first and wear white uniforms if it owns white uniforms. The visiting team must wear a uniform of contrasting color. The NCAA game representative will resolve any conflict in the selection of uniforms.

  • Jim | June 18, 2008 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment="276045"]BTW….did y’all see this Juinior story?

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

    From the story:

    Neither player revealed what the payment was for, though it appeared to be for some sort of wager.

    No shit…….

  • Steve | June 18, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment="276045"]BTW….did y’all see this Juinior story?

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

    Yes, last month, when it was discussed on here…..

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment="276050"][quote comment="276045"]BTW….did y’all see this Juinior story?

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

    From the story:

    Neither player revealed what the payment was for, though it appeared to be for some sort of wager.

    No shit…….[/quote]

    A friend of mine once did something similar with a 10 dollar bet.

    He froze the 1000 pennies within a metal bucket and then gave it to whom he owed!

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment="276051"][quote comment="276045"]BTW….did y’all see this Juinior story?

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

    Yes, last month, when it was discussed on here…..[/quote]

    Sorry, I didn’t see it!

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | June 18, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment="276044"][quote comment="276042"]You all need to check out the Photoshopped vesions of the catalogue pic for possible ideations of the cleat done by an EXTREMELY talented designer[/quote]

    we need to what?[/quote]

    Hand checking is a foul!

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | June 18, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment="276053"][quote comment="276051"][quote comment="276045"]BTW….did y’all see this Juinior story?

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

    Yes, last month, when it was discussed on here…..[/quote]

    Sorry, I didn’t see it![/quote]

    Me too neither. I was absent from class that day.

    But, it is a funny story.

  • Hurnf | June 18, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    At least the Seminoles uniforms look better than the St. Petersburg Pelicans.

  • ewc | June 18, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    New Michigan football unis?

    http://mgoblog.blogs...

  • TEH | June 18, 2008 at 9:45 am |

    Have to see the banana yellow FSU unis from the 1980′s – with the stovepipe hats!!!

    They wore this in Omaha in 1987.

    Hope this link works.

    slog.cstv.com/extrainnings/RichieLewis.jpg

  • Mark | June 18, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    Holy Crap, good to see Norm Abrams from “New Yankee Workshop” and “This Old House” with the mayor of Pittsburgh.

  • Bryan Redemske | June 18, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment="276032"]The LSU gold jerseys are similar to the ’96 jerseys, but they’re not the same. The “TIGERS” font is different on the front, and the numbers are drop-shadowed on the front and back. Also, there’s a white-and-purple stripe at the bottom of the sleeves, while the ’96 version had no sleeve stripes.There are other LSU uniforms (including a white cap with a purple bill) that probably won’t see the light of day in Omaha. LSU has gone with gold for the most part since their 23-game winning streak began (that streak was broken by UC Irvine in the super regional). Here are the other ones that you probably won’t see:

    Purple jersey: Similar to the gold jersey, but with no sleeve stripes.

    Pinstriped uniform: LSU cap logo on one top corner, uniform number on opposite bottom corner of jersey.

    Gray uniform: Actually haven’t seen a photo of that this year, but I think the Tigers wore them for Friday games during SEC road series. That’s been their tradition the last year or two.

    Throwback cap/uniform: Last year of Alex Box Stadium brought out a retro uni: Cream white top with heavy purple stripe around the collar and down the jersey. Purple “L” on one side of the jersey. Purple cap with white “L.”[/quote]

    Thanks for the further info. For some reason, despite its status as a college baseball superpower, LSU was the toughest to research. I saw the throwbacks, but those were a one-off thing. The others you mentioned were nowhere to be found on the team Web site. Thanks again.

  • James Craven | June 18, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment="276057"]“New Michigan football unis?”

    http://mgoblog.blogs...

    Cue the dead horse being flogged!

  • Jim | June 18, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    Uniwatcher Challange:

    Joe Kocur played 7 games for the Vancouver Canucks in 95-96. Can anyone find a picture of him from those 7 games? I cannot find one at all. Please help….

  • Stuby | June 18, 2008 at 10:08 am |

    In addition to the merit stickers/blotches on the Fresno State helmet, they also have the same green V sticker that the football team wears.

  • Tom | June 18, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    Apparently Bryan hates the NBA, so…

    Seems strange that Wheaties went with the road alternate black jersey for KG’s championship box.

    God I hate that jersey.

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment="276061"][quote comment="276057"]“New Michigan football unis?”

    http://mgoblog.blogs...

    Cue the dead horse being flogged![/quote]

    here

    now bookmark it so i don’t have to repost it again

  • Bryan Redemske | June 18, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment="276064"]Apparently Bryan hates the NBA, so…

    Seems strange that Wheaties went with the road alternate black jersey for KG’s championship box.

    God I hate that jersey.[/quote]

    I do?

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment="276066"][quote comment="276064"]Apparently Bryan hates the NBA, so…

    Seems strange that Wheaties went with the road alternate black jersey for KG’s championship box.

    God I hate that jersey.[/quote]

    I do?[/quote]

    yes…and apparently wheaties did that box just to spite you

    rat bastid

  • Tom | June 18, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    Just kidding, my good man. I know the CWS is way more important for people not from Boston.

    But I still hate the alt black.

  • Dave | June 18, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    OK, so maybe I’m missing something … why are the numbers 6, 7, 8, and 9 not allowed in scholastic basketball?

  • collecter | June 18, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    They make those gumball revolution helmets in college too. http://www.autograph...

  • Andy | June 18, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    American Legion has instituted a new rule this year that mandates on-field coaches wear a helmet, a la MLB. Does anyone know where I can find a “Jon Olerud-style” helmet? Everywhere Ive tried online is backordered for months. Thanks-

  • James Craven | June 18, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    Andy, try wearing a double-flapped batting helmet for future reference. they do that in Little League.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | June 18, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment="276069"]OK, so maybe I’m missing something … why are the numbers 6, 7, 8, and 9 not allowed in scholastic basketball?[/quote]

    Because most basketball referees have only five fingers on each hand.

  • Marty Met | June 18, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment="276037"]Not exactly uni-related, but still…
    The Mets think it’s disrespectful to fire someone ‘on the job’. However they have no such quarrels about firing him in the middle of the night? And right after the first game of a road trip? That’s is respect for you right there…[/quote]

    [quote comment=\"276037\"]Not exactly uni-related, but still…
    The Mets think it\’s disrespectful to fire someone \’on the job\’. However they have no such quarrels about firing him in the middle of the night? And right after the first game of a road trip? That\’s is respect for you right there…[/quote]

    and the Yankees treated Joe Torre with respect? or Yogi Berra, or Dick Hauser?

  • Tony In Erie (at home) | June 18, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    Can I ask a silly question?

    Why in the world can’t high schoolers wear the 6 through 9 digits? Is there some sort of importance? Why would it be prohibited?

    Now if a six
    Turned out to be nine
    They’d still mind, they’d still mind…

  • Anthony Verna | June 18, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment="276064"]Apparently Bryan hates the NBA, so…

    Seems strange that Wheaties went with the road alternate black jersey for KG’s championship box.

    God I hate that jersey.[/quote]

    I don’t know anyone who likes that jersey. The St. Patrick’s Day alternates with the gold is the right way to go for a permanent alt.

  • Duckstyle | June 18, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment="276068"]Just kidding, my good man. I know the CWS is way more important for people not from Boston.

    But I still hate the alt black.[/quote]

    It’s definitly not more important to anyone not from Nebraska. But it does however have a lot of “new” uni matters to cover, while the NBA stuff has been talked about in depth for months.

  • Duckstyle | June 18, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment="276076"][quote comment="276064"]Apparently Bryan hates the NBA, so…

    Seems strange that Wheaties went with the road alternate black jersey for KG’s championship box.

    God I hate that jersey.[/quote]

    I don’t know anyone who likes that jersey. The St. Patrick’s Day alternates with the gold is the right way to go for a permanent alt.[/quote]

    If they stuck with that for their alts, their set of uni’s might just be the best in all of sports, IMO.

  • Dave | June 18, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment="276073"][quote comment="276069"]OK, so maybe I’m missing something … why are the numbers 6, 7, 8, and 9 not allowed in scholastic basketball?[/quote]

    Because most basketball referees have only five fingers on each hand.[/quote]

    OK, I can see that. So the reason that it’s allowed in college and pros is because the refs are wired for sound? I’m not a hoops follower, but I assume that refs at the higher levels also have 5 digits per hand.

  • Tony Miller | June 18, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment="276075"]Can I ask a silly question?

    Why in the world can’t high schoolers wear the 6 through 9 digits? Is there some sort of importance? Why would it be prohibited?

    Now if a six
    Turned out to be nine
    They’d still mind, they’d still mind…[/quote]

    Because it’s difficult enough for the scorer’s table to pick up hand signals for digits 0-5, let alone adding another hand.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment="276077"][quote comment="276068"]Just kidding, my good man. I know the CWS is way more important for people not from Boston.

    But I still hate the alt black.[/quote]

    It’s definitly not more important to anyone not from Nebraska. But it does however have a lot of “new” uni matters to cover, while the NBA stuff has been talked about in depth for months.[/quote]

    I know I mentioned this late last night, and I’m pretty sure it’s true: this the first time the Celtics have won an NBA title wearing white shoes.

    Right?

  • Stuby | June 18, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment="276079"][quote comment="276073"][quote comment="276069"]OK, so maybe I’m missing something … why are the numbers 6, 7, 8, and 9 not allowed in scholastic basketball?[/quote]

    Because most basketball referees have only five fingers on each hand.[/quote]

    OK, I can see that. So the reason that it’s allowed in college and pros is because the refs are wired for sound? I’m not a hoops follower, but I assume that refs at the higher levels also have 5 digits per hand.[/quote]
    Not allowed in college either. Don’t know why its allowed in the pros. Perhaps because the Celtics have retired all the numbers with digits 0-5 and needed to use something.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    Speaking of refs signalling players’ numbers to scorekeepers, etc., when did it change that the player stopped raising his hand when was the one charged with the foul?

    (Also, could we please stop with the fist-bumps, hand slaps, et al, after a made free throw. Jeez.)

  • War Damn Eagle | June 18, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment="276043"]Great review indeed, and I’m digging that Fresno State number font. The Hanshin Tigers used something similar years ago.

    Boo to Minaya for the way he fired Randolph. I don’t see what’s so respectful about doing it at the hotel in the middle of the night and what’s so disrespectful about doing it after a game. If you fire a guy when he’s out of uniform, he7s deprived of being aware of what was his last moment in uniform, in the clubhouse, as part of the team. Fire him while he’s still got the jersey on so that he can take a last look around and appreciate what he had.[/quote]

    I agree. The “Tiffany” font always looks great on baseball unis. It’s a very classic look.

  • Mike from Queens | June 18, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    I understand that we’re in an entirely different artistic (and religious) era now compared to 1908, but the idea of something being changed because of how it would look *in stained glass* sounds so strange to me. I realize it didn’t happen, but for it merely to be considered seems like nonsense. What was the CAA doing? Handing out stained glass Christmas cards? Developing a stained glass uniform set? Making stained glass headbands?

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment="276085"]I understand that we’re in an entirely different artistic (and religious) era now compared to 1908, but the idea of something being changed because of how it would look *in stained glass* sounds so strange to me. I realize it didn’t happen, but for it merely to be considered seems like nonsense. What was the CAA doing? Handing out stained glass Christmas cards? Developing a stained glass uniform set? Making stained glass headbands?[/quote]

    Probably windows at the club. Most likely reason.

  • Walker | June 18, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    So I’m having trouble finding pictures, but as a lifelong FSU fan, I can tell you that you’re definitely missing two jerseys. There’s a white vest, and a grey “pits” jersey. The grey pits jersey was worn for one of the games at North Carolina (I think it was the Friday night game,) and the vest was worn in the opener of the regional against Bucknell. The garnet jersey that they wore against Miami is actually a BP jersey (hence the lack on NOB) that they’ve been wearing as the road top during the tournament. The other garnet top says Seminoles like the pits jerseys, but lacks the pit stains.

  • Walker | June 18, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    Also, the Noles have four hats. The two shown, plus a white hat and a grey hat (both with garnet bills.)

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    Snyone know any college or minor league teams that wear white pinstriped hats at home? Y’know, the 1917 White Sox look?

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    …meaning white with dark pinstripes, like this…

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    oops. link doesn’t work to specific hat, I guess.

  • Joe | June 18, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    Speaking of pinstripe hats, remember these hideous things from the 90′s:

    http://www.fansedge....

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment="276093"]Speaking of pinstripe hats, remember these hideous things from the 90′s:

    http://www.fansedge....

    I LIKED those hats!

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment="276093"]Speaking of pinstripe hats, remember these hideous things from the 90′s:

    http://www.fansedge....

    …from ’58 thru ’60, too, and thereafter with an oval (non-wishbone) “C” edged in navy.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment="276094"][quote comment="276093"]Speaking of pinstripe hats, remember these hideous things from the 90′s:

    http://www.fansedge....

    I LIKED those hats![/quote]

    So did I. At the time they were incredibly unique.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment="276096"][quote comment="276094"][quote comment="276093"]Speaking of pinstripe hats, remember these hideous things from the 90′s:

    http://www.fansedge....

    I LIKED those hats![/quote]

    So did I. At the time they were incredibly unique.[/quote]

    …meaning 58 thru 60

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment="276073"][quote comment="276069"]OK, so maybe I’m missing something … why are the numbers 6, 7, 8, and 9 not allowed in scholastic basketball?[/quote]

    Because most basketball referees have only five fingers on each hand.[/quote]

    I can hear Antonio Alfonseca’s phone ringing now.

    BTW, Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale. I’d buy it, except I think a $2.2m home should really have more than 3.5 bathrooms, and I wouldn’t really care to have “15″ stamped into my basement floor.

  • DawgFan | June 18, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    Louisiana TECH has made some modifications to their logos:

    http://latechsports....

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment="276099"]Louisiana TECH has made some modifications to their logos:

    http://latechsports....
    [quote comment="276098"][quote comment="276073"][quote comment="276069"]OK, so maybe I’m missing something … why are the numbers 6, 7, 8, and 9 not allowed in scholastic basketball?[/quote]

    Because most basketball referees have only five fingers on each hand.[/quote]

    I can hear Antonio Alfonseca’s phone ringing now.

    BTW, Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale. I’d buy it, except I think a $2.2m home should really have more than 3.5 bathrooms, and I wouldn’t really care to have “15″ stamped into my basement floor.[/quote]

    Hmmm…I guess wearing stirrups once in a while for a TBTC doesn’t negatively affect a player’s earning power or lifestyle after all.

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment="276099"]Louisiana TECH has made some modifications to their logos:

    http://latechsports....

    The logo: Bland. The logo three-dimentionalized at the top of the page: AWESOME!

    One question I have, however … are there no such thing as female bulldogs? I mean, I thought most dog breeds have both male and female varieties, but maybe not.

  • Jet | June 18, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    Paul, speaking of the “c” registered trademark, did you notice that some of the Fleer “big signs” shown on the Fleer Sticker Project page have a “TM” next to the team logo, and some don’t?

    -Jet

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.

  • Christopher | June 18, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment="276103"]Paul, speaking of the “c” registered trademark, did you notice that some of the Fleer “big signs” shown on the Fleer Sticker Project page have a “TM” next to the team logo, and some don’t?

    -Jet[/quote]

    Paul sorta mentioned that in the post yesterday. Many teams use TM or circle-R on merchandise and corporate identity materials (letterhead, signs). But only the Cubs have ever used it on a uniform.

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell

  • Andy11 | June 18, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment="276107"]Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.[/quote]

    That’s also an indication of why they didn’t fire Willie while he was in uniform.

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment="276107"]Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.[/quote]

    Ever hear of women’s soccer?

  • Mike from Queens | June 18, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment="276107"]Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.[/quote]

    Brandi Chastain. Women’s World Cup, ’99.
    http://www.sportshol...

  • Andy11 | June 18, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment="276110"][quote comment="276107"]Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.[/quote]

    Brandi Chastain. Women’s World Cup, ’99.
    http://www.sportshol...

    I’m pretty sure she kept her shorts on.
    It’s normal for athletes (ok, maybe not the ladies) to remove shirts after games…at all levels. But I’ve never heard of an athlete removing their shorts or pants after a game, and running around in their tighty whities. I wonder if he had GoldenPalace.com written on the back of them.

  • Joe | June 18, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment="276094"][quote comment="276093"]Speaking of pinstripe hats, remember these hideous things from the 90′s:

    http://www.fansedge....

    I LIKED those hats![/quote]

    I’m pretty sure I liked them too, at the time. Never owned one, though. Definitely a unique hat… I pretty regularly got a Manny’s Baseball Land catalog and would spend hours looking at all the caps! When I was younger, I hoped that whatever baseball team drafted me was one of the squads with lots of cap variations, so I could build a nice collection. The Mariners were high on my wishlist, with their various teal combinations. I never factored in that I’d make enough cash to buy whatever hats I wanted.

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment="276107"]Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.[/quote]

    ian baker-finch stripped to his u-trow on a golf course

    it wasn’t in celebration however…he didn’t want to get his trousers wet on a water shot

    too busy to look for pics, but trust me, they’re out there…i think it was 92 or 93

  • KJ Kearney | June 18, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    didn’t know if you guys had info on this already but i thought this was pretty cool. i remember reading something on the site about cap liners once: http://www.strictlyf...

  • Lee | June 18, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    The numbers on the Georgia baseball jerseys all look two inches too short/small. And their habit or is it a fashion statement of the half buttoned jersey is really annoying.

  • marlinfanhofer@aol.com | June 18, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    What was that website that did the uniform numbers (like the membership cards) on fabric? I’ve spent the last 30 minutes looking for that post.

    Thanks

  • Paul Lukas | June 18, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment="276116"]What was that website that did the uniform numbers (like the membership cards) on fabric? I’ve spent the last 30 minutes looking for that post.

    Thanks[/quote]

    Here:
    http://jerseynamefra...

  • MetsFan AZ | June 18, 2008 at 12:55 pm |

    I’ve always loved the white stitching around the holes on the Stanford cap. Do any other teams, college or pro, use contrast stitching there?

  • David | June 18, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    I work at Rice, and it may be true that you didn’t see a lot of the pinstriped whites (though with their pathetic early exit, we WON’T be seeing much more of them), they wore them quite frequently at home during the season. If there was a three game weekend series, they would always kick off the series in their home whites and then move to their pinstriped whites the next night.

    I’ll get in touch with the Athletics people over there and let you know what else I can find out about them.

  • Russ | June 18, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment="276049"]This is from the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship Handbook:
    The home team shall occupy the third-base dugout, take infield practice first and wear white uniforms if it owns white uniforms. The visiting team must wear a uniform of contrasting color. The NCAA game representative will resolve any conflict in the selection of uniforms.[/quote]

    Ryan – Well done, we’re lucky if we can get the coaches to read the handbooks!

  • Stuby | June 18, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment="276118"]I’ve always loved the white stitching around the holes on the Stanford cap. Do any other teams, college or pro, use contrast stitching there?[/quote]
    I think Cal State Fullerton has orange stitching on their navy caps.

  • Stuby | June 18, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment="276118"]I’ve always loved the white stitching around the holes on the Stanford cap. Do any other teams, college or pro, use contrast stitching there?[/quote]
    I’m going to assume its fairly common in college baseball. The first 3 teams I searched (Vandy, USC, Alabama) had the contrasting stitching.

  • KT | June 18, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    From the Bills’ release:

    “The Bills Toronto Series logo will be featured on patches adorned on the Buffalo Bills home uniform for all eight games played at Rogers Centre as part of the series over the next five years.”

    Is that grammatically correct?

    The uniforms will be adorned with patches. The patches themselves will adorn the uniforms.

    I don’t believe something can be “adorned on.”

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment="276123"]From the Bills’ release:

    “The Bills Toronto Series logo will be featured on patches adorned on the Buffalo Bills home uniform for all eight games played at Rogers Centre as part of the series over the next five years.”

    Is that grammatically correct?

    The uniforms will be adorned with patches. The patches themselves will adorn the uniforms.

    I don’t believe something can be “adorned on.”[/quote]

    prolly written by the same dude who wrote the wonderlic…

    or matt powers

    j/k matt

  • Rick | June 18, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    ” Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.”

    A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.

    Never before seeing any player strip to his briefs before.

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment="276125]A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.[/quote]

    like so?

  • Jason | June 18, 2008 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment="276125"]”

    Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.”

    A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.

    Never before seeing any player strip to his briefs before.[/quote]

    I think that after the match he went towards the sidelines and the fans may have pulled them off.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment="276126"][quote comment="276125]A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.[/quote]

    like so?[/quote]

    Fourth word doesn’t show:
    JERSEYS

  • Teebz | June 18, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment="276062"]Uniwatcher Challange:

    Joe Kocur played 7 games for the Vancouver Canucks in 95-96. Can anyone find a picture of him from those 7 games? I cannot find one at all. Please help….[/quote]

    You probably won’t find one on the web. He played seven games, and about seven minutes total for Vancouver.

    He had been traded to Vancouver, but the Canucks wrote him off as soon as he got there because of the four operations on his right hand. They thought he was done as a hockey player and, more importantly, as an enforcer.

    Your best bet would be to contact the local Vancouver newspapers and see if they have any old Kocur pics on file.

  • Jason | June 18, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    I take back my post from earlier (#99). Cassano intentionally stripped to his undies to celebrate Italy going through to the quaterfinals. So Paul was right.

  • Jason | June 18, 2008 at 2:44 pm |

    The Akron Zips basketball team will sport new Lebron James unis next year…

    http://blog.clevelan...

  • James P. | June 18, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment="276102"][quote comment="276099"]Louisiana TECH has made some modifications to their logos:

    http://latechsports....

    The logo: Bland. The logo three-dimentionalized at the top of the page: AWESOME!

    One question I have, however … are there no such thing as female bulldogs? I mean, I thought most dog breeds have both male and female varieties, but maybe not.[/quote]

    So, you would rather the ladies teams called “Bitches”?

    Our logo might be “bland” to you, but it is one of the oldest continually used logos in college sports.

  • Jim | June 18, 2008 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment="276129"][quote comment="276062"]Uniwatcher Challange:

    Joe Kocur played 7 games for the Vancouver Canucks in 95-96. Can anyone find a picture of him from those 7 games? I cannot find one at all. Please help….[/quote]

    You probably won’t find one on the web. He played seven games, and about seven minutes total for Vancouver.

    He had been traded to Vancouver, but the Canucks wrote him off as soon as he got there because of the four operations on his right hand. They thought he was done as a hockey player and, more importantly, as an enforcer.

    Your best bet would be to contact the local Vancouver newspapers and see if they have any old Kocur pics on file.[/quote]

    Yeah I knew he didn’t play much, but talk about a ‘cameo’. 3 time Stanley cup winner with DET/NYR, would love to see what he looked like in the great yellow/black of VAN. Weird I bet…

  • rc | June 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment="276127"][quote comment="276125"]”

    Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.”

    A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.

    Never before seeing any player strip to his briefs before.[/quote]

    I think that after the match he went towards the sidelines and the fans may have pulled them off.[/quote]

    Cassano is known to have a few loose screws, and as my family in Italy say, he is a man of “low intelligence”. This is not the first time he has stripped down after a game…

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment="276134"][quote comment="276127"][quote comment="276125"]”

    Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.”

    A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.

    Never before seeing any player strip to his briefs before.[/quote]

    I think that after the match he went towards the sidelines and the fans may have pulled them off.[/quote]

    Cassano is known to have a few loose screws, and as my family in Italy say, he is a man of “low intelligence”. This is not the first time he has stripped down after a game…[/quote]

    Yet they keep covering it. Kinda like Jerry Jones on the Cowboy sideline.

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment="276135"][quote comment="276134"] This is not the first time he has stripped down after a game…[/quote]

    Yet they keep covering it.[/quote]

    no pun intended

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment="276132"][quote comment="276102"][quote comment="276099"]Louisiana TECH has made some modifications to their logos:

    http://latechsports....

    The logo: Bland. The logo three-dimentionalized at the top of the page: AWESOME!

    One question I have, however … are there no such thing as female bulldogs? I mean, I thought most dog breeds have both male and female varieties, but maybe not.[/quote]

    So, you would rather the ladies teams called “Bitches”?

    Our logo might be “bland” to you, but it is one of the oldest continually used logos in college sports.[/quote]

    Why not call them, I dunno … Bulldogs? I can see where changing for the ladies a school/mascot identity is primarily male, but last I checked both mail and female bulldogs are typically referred to as bulldogs. If I’m mistaken here, please let me know.

    As for the logo … didn’t mean to offend anyone on that. I’m a Cub fan. I like traditional and simple. I’m just saying IMO the “standard” logo is pretty … well … plain, while the 3D logo at the top of the website – while based on the same image – is sharp, clean, and crisp. Moral of the story – you CAN have it both ways!

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 3:37 pm |

    Nope. Cassano has covered what we plainly see when Jones wanders the sidelines.

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment="276099"] I can see where changing for the ladies a school/mascot identity is primarily male, but last I checked both mail and female bulldogs are typically referred to as bulldogs. [/quote]

    I aint never used no English as good as I did right there.

  • LarenR | June 18, 2008 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment="276123"]From the Bills’ release:

    “The Bills Toronto Series logo will be featured on patches adorned on the Buffalo Bills home uniform for all eight games played at Rogers Centre as part of the series over the next five years.”

    Is that grammatically correct?

    The uniforms will be adorned with patches. The patches themselves will adorn the uniforms.

    I don’t believe something can be “adorned on.”[/quote]

    May just be funky Canadian/UK grammar. They also use things like “orientate” rather than “orient” (as in, “you must orientate the map so that the top is facing north.”), treat collective nouns differently ( “the crowd ARE going wild”), etc.

  • Kenny | June 18, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Do you mean he or He?

  • josh | June 18, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment="276125"]”

    Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.”

    A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.

    Never before seeing any player strip to his briefs before.[/quote]

    Ned Braden.

  • Mike Engle | June 18, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment="276142"][quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Do you mean he or He?[/quote]
    I remember one game…two outs, last of the ninth, he fielded the ball and turned a double play to end the game.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment="276144"][quote comment="276142"][quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Do you mean he or He?[/quote]
    I remember one game…two outs, last of the ninth, he fielded the ball and turned a double play to end the game.[/quote]

    Wasn’t He the one who—even though most of His teammates didn’t think He should go—the executives tried to send Him down, but He was back up three days later?

    Yeah, that was Him.

  • Banker Bill | June 18, 2008 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment="276143"][quote comment="276125"]”

    Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.”

    A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.

    Never before seeing any player strip to his briefs before.[/quote]

    Ned Braden.[/quote]

    Wow…A Slap Shot reference. Love it.

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment="276145"][quote comment="276144"][quote comment="276142"][quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Do you mean he or He?[/quote]
    I remember one game…two outs, last of the ninth, he fielded the ball and turned a double play to end the game.[/quote]

    Wasn’t He the one who—even though most of His teammates didn’t think He should go—the executives tried to send Him down, but He was back up three days later?

    Yeah, that was Him.[/quote]

    no…

    that was matty…or was it felipe?

  • josh | June 18, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment="276146"][quote comment="276143"][quote comment="276125"]”

    Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.”

    A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.

    Never before seeing any player strip to his briefs before.[/quote]

    Ned Braden.[/quote]

    Wow…A Slap Shot reference. Love it.[/quote]

    I tried to capture the spirit of the thing.

  • Mike Engle | June 18, 2008 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment="276147"][quote comment="276145"][quote comment="276144"][quote comment="276142"][quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Do you mean he or He?[/quote]
    I remember one game…two outs, last of the ninth, he fielded the ball and turned a double play to end the game.[/quote]

    Wasn’t He the one who—even though most of His teammates didn’t think He should go—the executives tried to send Him down, but He was back up three days later?

    Yeah, that was Him.[/quote]

    no…

    that was matty…or was it felipe?[/quote]
    I’m no Mets fan, but Moises is my homeboy.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 4:27 pm |

    Back to uniforms. The spacing the Rice baseball jerseys (between “R” and “ice”) always bugged me, too. Took a close look over the weekend. Only way to solve the problem and maintain that font would be to adjust “upsweep” on the end of the “R”. It extends considerably farther to the right than the top loop does.

    Or go to pullovers.

    Rice’s look is basic, but classy. Sorta the Penn State football of college baseball.

    Also gotta love Cal-Irvine. Hard not to root for the “Anteaters.” If you remember “B.C.” you’ll appreciate an early Cal-Irvine cheer from long ago.

    “ANTEATERS! ANTEATERS!
    ZOT-ZOT-ZOT! ”

    Just kinda wakes up the echoes, don’t it.

  • Kenny | June 18, 2008 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment="276132"][quote comment="276102"][quote comment="276099"]Louisiana TECH has made some modifications to their logos:

    http://latechsports....

    The logo: Bland. The logo three-dimentionalized at the top of the page: AWESOME!

    One question I have, however … are there no such thing as female bulldogs? I mean, I thought most dog breeds have both male and female varieties, but maybe not.[/quote]

    So, you would rather the ladies teams called “Bitches”?

    Our logo might be “bland” to you, but it is one of the oldest continually used logos in college sports.[/quote]

    Who let Don Imus in?

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment="276149"][quote comment="276147"][quote comment="276145"][quote comment="276144"][quote comment="276142"][quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Do you mean he or He?[/quote]
    I remember one game…two outs, last of the ninth, he fielded the ball and turned a double play to end the game.[/quote]

    Wasn’t He the one who—even though most of His teammates didn’t think He should go—the executives tried to send Him down, but He was back up three days later?

    Yeah, that was Him.[/quote]

    no…

    that was matty…or was it felipe?[/quote]
    I’m no Mets fan, but Moises is my homeboy.[/quote]

    I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”

  • Kenny | June 18, 2008 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment="276142"][quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Do you mean he or He?[/quote]

    Definately He

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote]I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    oh yeah…ultimately tho…wasn’t his career cut short by that poncho…ponchus…played for the original seattle team

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment="276154"][quote]I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    oh yeah…ultimately tho…wasn’t his career cut short by that poncho…ponchus…played for the original seattle team[/quote]

    Are we allowed to say “dammit Phil” on this one???

  • Neil | June 18, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment="276154"][quote]I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    oh yeah…ultimately tho…wasn’t his career cut short by that poncho…ponchus…played for the original seattle team[/quote]

    He was so good on the diamond that they made a statue of him. See the first picture.

    http://www.catholics...

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment="276156"][quote comment="276154"][quote]I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    oh yeah…ultimately tho…wasn’t his career cut short by that poncho…ponchus…played for the original seattle team[/quote]

    He was so good on the diamond that they made a statue of him. See the first picture.

    http://www.catholics...

    i bellive the title of that sculpture is…

    “Oh, Jesus, just hit the ball, kid!”

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment="276155"][quote comment="276154"][quote]I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    oh yeah…ultimately tho…wasn’t his career cut short by that poncho…ponchus…played for the original seattle team[/quote]

    Are we allowed to say “dammit Phil” on this one???[/quote]

    Poncho Rainier?

  • Neil | June 18, 2008 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment="276157"][quote comment="276156"][quote comment="276154"][quote]I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    oh yeah…ultimately tho…wasn’t his career cut short by that poncho…ponchus…played for the original seattle team[/quote]

    He was so good on the diamond that they made a statue of him. See the first picture.

    http://www.catholics...

    i bellive the title of that sculpture is…

    “Oh, Jesus, just hit the ball, kid!”[/quote]
    And he also plays a little puck.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment="276158"][quote comment="276155"][quote comment="276154"][quote]I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    oh yeah…ultimately tho…wasn’t his career cut short by that poncho…ponchus…played for the original seattle team[/quote]

    Are we allowed to say “dammit Phil” on this one???[/quote]

    Poncho Rainier?[/quote]

    i was going for ponchus pilot

    /im going to hell anyway

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    And I was trying to sound incredibly dense.

    How’d we do?

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment="276161"]And I was trying to sound incredibly dense.

    How’d we do?[/quote]

    SPLENDIDLY!!!!! :)

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    Let’s change the subject. We’ve pretty much left no stone unturned on this one.

  • Juan Grande | June 18, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment="276152"][quote comment="276149"][quote comment="276147"][quote comment="276145"][quote comment="276144"][quote comment="276142"][quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Do you mean he or He?[/quote]
    I remember one game…two outs, last of the ninth, he fielded the ball and turned a double play to end the game.[/quote]

    Wasn’t He the one who—even though most of His teammates didn’t think He should go—the executives tried to send Him down, but He was back up three days later?

    Yeah, that was Him.[/quote]

    no…

    that was matty…or was it felipe?[/quote]
    I’m no Mets fan, but Moises is my homeboy.[/quote]

    I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    Last I heard he played CF for the Red Sox in 2004 under an alias. I don’t know what happened to him after that.

  • DawgFan | June 18, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment="276102"][quote comment="276099"]Louisiana TECH has made some modifications to their logos:

    http://latechsports....

    The logo: Bland. The logo three-dimentionalized at the top of the page: AWESOME!

    One question I have, however … are there no such thing as female bulldogs? I mean, I thought most dog breeds have both male and female varieties, but maybe not.[/quote]

    When Louisiana Tech started the women’s basketball program in the late 70′s Coach Hogg decided it would be inappropriate to call Women “Dogs”, so Lady Techsters was adopted for the women’s teams. The Lady Techsters stressed being “Ladies” (on and off the court) as well as good athletes, not like the players who are barely female these days.

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment="276165"][quote comment="276102"][quote comment="276099"]Louisiana TECH has made some modifications to their logos:

    http://latechsports....

    The logo: Bland. The logo three-dimentionalized at the top of the page: AWESOME!

    One question I have, however … are there no such thing as female bulldogs? I mean, I thought most dog breeds have both male and female varieties, but maybe not.[/quote]

    When Louisiana Tech started the women’s basketball program in the late 70′s Coach Hogg decided it would be inappropriate to call Women “Dogs”, so Lady Techsters was adopted for the women’s teams. The Lady Techsters stressed being “Ladies” (on and off the court) as well as good athletes, not like the players who are barely female these days.[/quote]

    I can accept that! I don’t know that I agree, but I can accept that. And isn’t that everyone’s #1 priority, after all?

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 5:27 pm |
  • Adam | June 18, 2008 at 5:28 pm |

    White Sox marketing director Brooks Boyer did an online chat today, with a few uni-related questions:

    dan9167: My favorite Sox uniform was the Red pinstripes from the seventies. Any chance of seeing them again?

    Boyer: Certainly down the road that would be an option for an alternative uniform. We are wearing camo uniforms on July 4th this year that are pretty sweet.

    soxgirl4ever: Do you and your marketing group determine the look of the uniforms?

    Boyer: Yes. We submit any changes/alterations to MLB each year. No reason to change our uniforms, in my opinion.

  • Aaron | June 18, 2008 at 5:35 pm |

    I’m guessing this has been discussed somewhere on this site before, but does Paul Owens’ jersey have a zipper?

    Paul Owens

  • Brandon | June 18, 2008 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment="276096"][quote comment="276094"][quote comment="276093"]Speaking of pinstripe hats, remember these hideous things from the 90′s:

    http://www.fansedge....

    I LIKED those hats![/quote]

    So did I. At the time they were incredibly unique.[/quote]

    I also really like these caps, because you never see WHITE caps in MLB anymore. I am not a fan of vest uniforms in baseball, but cincy’s white red-pinstriped vest uniform with the red undershirt was incredibly classy. The Pirates also apply to this, their current uniform has the old schooled classy look that I like, even though its a vest.

  • Walaitis | June 18, 2008 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment="276169"]I’m guessing this has been discussed somewhere on this site before, but does Paul Owens’ jersey have a zipper?

    Paul Owens[/quote]

    Nope. He’s wearing a pullover and being attacked by a tapeworm.

  • KT | June 18, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    [quote comment="276125"]”

    Italy’s Antonio Cassano got a little carried away celebrating his squad’s victory over France yesterday

    Has he done this before? Do other players do this? Why would someone strip down to their underwear as a form of celebration? I have never heard of this.”

    A couple of years ago a lot of players would take of their shirt after they scored a goal to reveal either their naked torso, or a T-shirt carrying a message. The powers that be didn’t like it and imposed an automatic yellow card on the practice.

    Never before seeing any player strip to his briefs before.[/quote]

    Not since Ned Braden.

  • Ricko | June 18, 2008 at 5:51 pm |

    “We are wearing camo uniforms on July 4th this year that are pretty sweet.

    Hellloooo, White Sox marketing dept…It’s Independence Day, not Armed Forces Day or Memorial Day.

    The colonists were ahead of their time, tactically, yes, but I’m pretty sure that “forest pattern” wasn’t their invention.

    But, what the hell, go ahead, nobody’s ever thought of wearing camo. (rolls eyes)

  • KT | June 18, 2008 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment="276140"][quote comment="276123"]From the Bills’ release:

    “The Bills Toronto Series logo will be featured on patches adorned on the Buffalo Bills home uniform for all eight games played at Rogers Centre as part of the series over the next five years.”

    Is that grammatically correct?

    The uniforms will be adorned with patches. The patches themselves will adorn the uniforms.

    I don’t believe something can be “adorned on.”[/quote]

    May just be funky Canadian/UK grammar. They also use things like “orientate” rather than “orient” (as in, “you must orientate the map so that the top is facing north.”), treat collective nouns differently ( “the crowd ARE going wild”), etc.[/quote]

    Except it was written by a guy who works for the Bills, presumably not a Canadian or a Brit.

    I think it was a guy who just isn’t familiar with a term using it incorrectly.

  • Tony Miller | June 18, 2008 at 5:53 pm |

    [quote comment="276139"][quote comment="276099"] I can see where changing for the ladies a school/mascot identity is primarily male, but last I checked both mail and female bulldogs are typically referred to as bulldogs. [/quote]

    I aint never used no English as good as I did right there.[/quote]

    Hang on…the quoted post says “male and female bulldogs”, but the quote of it says “mail.” Am I missing something here?

  • Stuby | June 18, 2008 at 6:20 pm |

    I just heard on PTI that Pacman Jones will now go by his given name, Adam. If that doesn’t work, he’ll change his name to Jerry.

  • Kevin M. | June 18, 2008 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment="276159"][quote comment="276157"][quote comment="276156"][quote comment="276154"][quote]I think that Jesus kid was the first superstar who had this group that followed him around everywhere he went. Called ‘em his ‘posse” or…no, wait, “apostles”, that’s what it was. Yeah, “apostles.”[/quote]

    oh yeah…ultimately tho…wasn’t his career cut short by that poncho…ponchus…played for the original seattle team[/quote]

    He was so good on the diamond that they made a statue of him. See the first picture.

    http://www.catholics...

    i bellive the title of that sculpture is…

    “Oh, Jesus, just hit the ball, kid!”[/quote]
    And he also plays a little puck.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    I always saw Jesus as a goalie…gives a whole new meaning to “Jesus Saves”

  • Tony In Erie (at work) | June 18, 2008 at 6:57 pm |

    But Crosby scores on the rebound!

    har har har

  • Scott N | June 18, 2008 at 6:59 pm |

    [quote comment="276082"][quote comment="276079"][quote comment="276073"][quote comment="276069"]OK, so maybe I’m missing something … why are the numbers 6, 7, 8, and 9 not allowed in scholastic basketball?[/quote]

    Because most basketball referees have only five fingers on each hand.[/quote]

    OK, I can see that. So the reason that it’s allowed in college and pros is because the refs are wired for sound? I’m not a hoops follower, but I assume that refs at the higher levels also have 5 digits per hand.[/quote]
    Not allowed in college either. Don’t know why its allowed in the pros. Perhaps because the Celtics have retired all the numbers with digits 0-5 and needed to use something.[/quote]
    The NBA allows the numbers simply because it never prohibited them.

    As for the others, I think the reason was to make things simpler for the scorekeepers. Along that same line, for years it was common for the home team to wear even numbers and the visitors to wear odds — I still see some small high schools in Missouri doing this. So if you wore 10 at home, you’d be 11 on the road.

    Until a few seasons ago, high school and college players couldn’t wear the single digits “1″ and “2″, either, because those fingers signaled the number of shots a player got on his free throw. I think “1″ and “2″ became allowed because they didn’t want to outlaw the number “3″. Otherwise, you’d have to prohibit “3″ alone because you might need to ocassionaly indicate a three-shot foul.

    International ball also has number restrictions. I think players can only wear numbers between “4″ and “15.” Larry Bird was No. 7 when he played on Dream Team I and Karl Malone was No. 11.

  • Tony In Erie (at work) | June 18, 2008 at 7:08 pm |

    If Jesus played hockey, he’d play for the Kings. For sure. But would he wear the purple and yellow (with the yellow helmet) or the black and silver?

    Such a conundrum…

  • Lee | June 18, 2008 at 7:17 pm |

    One other logo related not from the online chat with the ChiSox marketing guy, Boyer was asked about painting the Sox logo on the field behind home plate. He said they have had “fun internal debates” about it and did not forsee it happening.

  • Stuby | June 18, 2008 at 8:48 pm |

    Stanford’s uniforms are my favorite in the CWS. Like Bryan said, they’re simple and they harken back to the scool’s championships in the 80s. Plus they all wear stirrups.

    On the other end of the sprectrum are those hideous Miami uniforms. The numerals look straight outta Rollerball, and they’re HUGE.

  • John | June 18, 2008 at 8:52 pm |

    [quote comment="276028"]Great entry! I love the College World Series! One of my lifelong goals (granted I’m only 22) is to go down to Omaha some year for the length of the entire World Series and get to as many games as I can. That would just be an amazing 10 or so days.[/quote]
    Amen, it seems like such a fun thing to do.

  • Josh Petty | June 18, 2008 at 8:56 pm |

    [quote comment="276049"]This is from the NCAA Division I Baseball Championship Handbook:
    The home team shall occupy the third-base dugout, take infield practice first and wear white uniforms if it owns white uniforms. The visiting team must wear a uniform of contrasting color. The NCAA game representative will resolve any conflict in the selection of uniforms.[/quote]

    Good find…I knew I heard it somewhere on one of the ESPN broadcasts

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 8:56 pm |

    [quote comment="276182"]they harken back to the scool’s championships in the 80s.[/quote]

    stay in scool stuby, stay in scool ;)

  • Stuby | June 18, 2008 at 9:09 pm |

    [quote comment="276185"][quote comment="276182"]they harken back to the scool’s championships in the 80s.[/quote]

    stay in scool stuby, stay in scool ;)[/quote]
    Ouch. Thanks LI Fill.

  • LI Phil | June 18, 2008 at 9:11 pm |

    edwin encarnacion likes bling

    he also likes to point

  • LarenR | June 18, 2008 at 9:29 pm |

    Says Willie Randolph of his future: “I’m not ready to retire. Once you get a taste of managing, it’s kind of cool.”

    “Kind of cool?” If I got to coach for a day it would be “kind of cool.” This guy is, ostensibly, a pro. No wonder he lost the respect in the clubhouse…

  • John | June 18, 2008 at 9:37 pm |

    [quote comment="276071"]American Legion has instituted a new rule this year that mandates on-field coaches wear a helmet, a la MLB. Does anyone know where I can find a “Jon Olerud-style” helmet? Everywhere Ive tried online is backordered for months. Thanks-[/quote]
    If I were you number 1, if I had children I would contact the athletic director at their school or you could try contacting either rawlings who makes the major league versions (I have one from that source and they do make them) or contact a team. Anymore questions just replay to the comment

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 10:26 pm |

    [quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Nah, that was Chuck Norris, right after he counted to infinity…twice

  • MPowers1634 | June 18, 2008 at 10:31 pm |

    [quote comment="276190"][quote comment="276141"][quote comment="276106"][quote comment="276104"][quote comment="276100"][quote comment="276098"] Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale.[/quote]

    sez: YEAR BUILT: 14

    jesus christ…that’s older than…well almost christ hisself…and almost as old as ricko[/quote]

    Jesus? I remember him. Jewish kid. Great hands, incredible power. Seemed destined to be a superstar. Always wore his stuff really baggy, though, drove some people nuts.[/quote]

    Baseball: Heaven Vs. Hell[/quote]

    I heard he hit a bases empty grand slam once…pretty amazing stuff[/quote]

    Nah, that was Chuck Norris, right after he counted to infinity…twice[/quote]

    And beat the be(jeezus) out of Ed Hercules

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | June 18, 2008 at 10:46 pm |

    [quote comment="276182"]Stanford’s uniforms are my favorite in the CWS. Like Bryan said, they’re simple and they harken back to the scool’s championships in the 80s. Plus they all wear stirrups.

    On the other end of the sprectrum are those hideous Miami uniforms. The numerals look straight outta Rollerball, and they’re HUGE.[/quote]

    Totally agreed. Can’t believe Bryan didn’t mention the BW memorial patch on the right sleeve of Stanford’s Unis. It’s a bit unique in that the BW and the circle outline are black, but the rest of the patch is white.

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | June 18, 2008 at 11:02 pm |

    actually, it appears to be a KW on the sleeve patch for Stanford.

  • Jim | June 19, 2008 at 7:23 am |

    [quote comment="276180"]If Jesus played hockey, he’d play for the Kings. For sure. But would he wear the purple and yellow (with the yellow helmet) or the black and silver?

    Such a conundrum…[/quote]

    Would Jesus have the power to get rid of Gary Bettman? Or is Gary so evil he could stand up to Jesus…… hmmmmmmm.

  • BS | June 19, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment="276075"]Can I ask a silly question?

    Why in the world can’t high schoolers wear the 6 through 9 digits? Is there some sort of importance? Why would it be prohibited?

    Now if a six
    Turned out to be nine
    They’d still mind, they’d still mind…[/quote]
    Jimi Hendrix on Uni Watch…Hurrah!

  • BS | June 19, 2008 at 2:50 pm |
  • BS | June 19, 2008 at 2:52 pm |

    Sorry…didn’t realize we can’t post vids from Youtube.

    URL: http://www.youtube.c...

    Jimi Hendrix – If 6 Was 9

  • Swine the Mad | June 19, 2008 at 10:35 pm |

    I’m probably way too late for this to be read, but judging by the font and the style of the top, that could very well be a high school basketball warm-up for Joliet.

    I don’t know about any other state but Georgia, but it wasn’t uncommon to see now-illegal numbers well into the mid-1950s. I have a photo of what was then the largest school in the state (Jordan) wearing a #88 in 1957.
    http://picasaweb.goo...

  • Bill | June 20, 2008 at 12:54 am |

    [quote comment="276098"][quote comment="276073"][quote comment="276069"]OK, so maybe I’m missing something … why are the numbers 6, 7, 8, and 9 not allowed in scholastic basketball?[/quote]

    Because most basketball referees have only five fingers on each hand.[/quote]

    I can hear Antonio Alfonseca’s phone ringing now.

    BTW, Jim Edmonds’ St. Louis home is up for sale. I’d buy it, except I think a $2.2m home should really have more than 3.5 bathrooms, and I wouldn’t really care to have “15″ stamped into my basement floor.[/quote]
    Anyone notice the last name of the realtor? Sound familiar to any baseball fans?

  • George | June 21, 2008 at 12:10 am |

    FSU actually has more than seven uniforms. They wear a white with FS, white with SEMINOLES, white sleeveless with SEMINOLES and white pinstriped. They also wear grey in each above. They have the Sunday Vegas Gold uniforms and a garnet top with SEMINOLES. In the NCAA tournament this year they have worn a traditional batting practice jersey in Garnet with the interlocking FS (worn in Monday’s CWS game). I guess that gives them 11 tops to wear, but I am not sure the sleeveless grey’s were worn this year.

  • Walker | June 21, 2008 at 3:09 pm |

    George, the grey FSU pinsripes are sleeveless. They don’t have one of each, they’re combined. They’re the Sunday roads (usually.)

  • George | June 23, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment="276520"]George, the grey FSU pinsripes are sleeveless. They don’t have one of each, they’re combined. They’re the Sunday roads (usually.)[/quote]Thanks. I knew better. I had thought we have been at 9 jerseys in the rotation for awhile, but when I saw that picture of Elih I thought it was a jersey and not a vest. I knew the BP jersey was an “extra” to take us from 9 to 10, but totally blanked on the other.