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Superstition, or Just Coincidence?

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Weird case of déjà vu last night: Back in April, when Pedro Martinez made his very truncated season debut, he left the second button on his jersey unfastened (and I said as much at the time). Two months later, Pedro finally returned to the mound last night — with the same button undone (additional views here, here, here, here, and here). Guess he didn’t read last week’s ESPN column.

Speaking of which, I’ve got a new column going up today (here’s the link). See you over there.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Good story here about minor league team names, logos, and branding (with thanks to Kenn Tomasch). … Great find here — a basketball uniform made for the USFL’s Philadelphia Stars for a charity game. “I believe David Trout later went on to play for the Steelers, as a kicker,” says Todd Davis. “He also had that strange double-bar facemask that never quite looked like any others I’d seen.” … Yesterday’s entry about cap inserts prompted this from Paul Hirsch: “I know all about the cap inserts. I have one — it’s red — that my parents bought for me in the 1960s [additional pics here and here]. They were quite popular in Southern California then, because Maury Wills used one. There’s also some discussion regarding having youth baseball pitchers wear them to protect from comebackers. My son pitches, and I’m trying to sell him on the idea. Don’t know if they’re readily available at the moment, but if they become mandatory or encouraged for young pitchers, they’ll be back on the market.” … Check out this great old photo of the 240th Coast Artillery baseball team uniform. “Found it in a display at Fort Williams, adjacent to Portland Head Lighthouse in Maine,” says Dan Cichalski. … Chipper Jones came to bat left-handed last night while wearing a right-handed batting helmet. See it unfold in real time here (with thanks to Brent Hardman). … In that same game, the Marlins’ announcers took a uni-related question from a viewer. I don’t have access to that broadcast, but reader Steven Nathan actually captured it on his cellphone. Crummy audio and even crummier video, but you can get the gist here.

 

154 comments to Superstition, or Just Coincidence?

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 8:20 am |

    petey looked good last night, despite the button

    hey…mr. martinez…with your left hand, tell me how many wins you have…and with your right hand, how many does your opponent (mr. zito) have?

    o rly?

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 8:25 am |

    http://farm4.static....

    Another notable find on Pedro’s person:

    Much like football players wearing wristbands over their chinstraps for cushioning, I’m assuming that Pedro is wearing a Rawlings wristband over the embroidered Rawlings tag on the backside of his hand.

  • Kek | June 4, 2008 at 8:27 am |

    Regarding David Trout, he was with the Steelers prior to his time with the Stars. He was one of the gang of kickers that the Steelers brought in that couldn’t win the job before Gary Anderson ultimately won it and stayed in it for years.

    He may have come back as a strike replacement player in ’87 with Pittsburgh as well.

    I recall not too long ago his Stars’ USFL championship ring and some other memoribilia on sale on ebay.

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 8:31 am |

    [quote comment=”274025″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2550229517_600c3be80e_o.jpg

    Another notable find on Pedro’s person:

    Much like football players wearing wristbands over their chinstraps for cushioning, I’m assuming that Pedro is wearing a Rawlings wristband over the embroidered Rawlings tag on the backside of his hand.[/quote]

    good spot mr. powers…is it possible what pedro is wearing is something like this?

  • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2008 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”274027″][quote comment=”274025″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2550229517_600c3be80e_o.jpg

    Another notable find on Pedro’s person:

    Much like football players wearing wristbands over their chinstraps for cushioning, I’m assuming that Pedro is wearing a Rawlings wristband over the embroidered Rawlings tag on the backside of his hand.[/quote]

    good spot mr. powers…is it possible what pedro is wearing is something like this?[/quote]

    He’s been wearing it for years. It’s standard-issue on some Rawlings models. Allows the pitcher to mop his brow.

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 8:44 am |

    [quote comment=”274028″]He’s been wearing it for years.[/quote]

    he has? i did a quick google photo search and the only pictures i can seem to find of him wearing it are from 2008…that’s not to say he hasn’t been wearing it previously, i’m just not finding it with the quick search i did

    any older photos of him? i’d be curious when he started the practice…

    i only ask because last night’s game was in the city by the bay, and it was like 15 degrees (or at least it seemed that way, based on how the players and some fans were dressed)…so it would seem petey wouldn’t have much sweat to mop

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 8:44 am |

    [quote comment=”274027″][quote comment=”274025″]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2550229517_600c3be80e_o.jpg

    Another notable find on Pedro’s person:

    Much like football players wearing wristbands over their chinstraps for cushioning, I’m assuming that Pedro is wearing a Rawlings wristband over the embroidered Rawlings tag on the backside of his hand.[/quote]

    good spot mr. powers…is it possible what pedro is wearing is something like this?[/quote]

    Better find, Mr. Hecken.

    I was assuming that it was similar to what Sheldon Brown of the Eagles does with his wristband:

    http://media.philly....

    Although, we all know what comes to mind when we think of Sheldon Brown:

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Actually, many of the football equipment companies now make chin shields:

    http://www.sportsdep...

  • Robert | June 4, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    Random thought: Is climacool/cool base going to be to the ’00s what polyester was to the ’70s? Will everyone be mocking my climacool polo shirt in a few years, while Major Leaguers still sport cool base jerseys?

  • lukejameslarson | June 4, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    [quote comment=”274029″][quote comment=”274028″]He’s been wearing it for years.[/quote]

    he has? i did a quick google photo search and the only pictures i can seem to find of him wearing it are from 2008…that’s not to say he hasn’t been wearing it previously, i’m just not finding it with the quick search i did

    any older photos of him? i’d be curious when he started the practice…

    i only ask because last night’s game was in the city by the bay, and it was like 15 degrees (or at least it seemed that way, based on how the players and some fans were dressed)…so it would seem petey wouldn’t have much sweat to mop[/quote]

    here’s one from his days in boston.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 8:54 am |

    Seen those wristbands on glove straps off and on for years. Figured the purpose was brow-mooping (since pitchers are allowed to wear wristbands, batting gloves, etc,) probablyinvented by a pitcher simply sliding a wristband onto his glove one hot summer day.

    On another note…Oh, man, not only did have to watch the Twins lose to the Orioles last night, I had to watch the “hat flip” at the end. Makes ’em look like Horace Debussey Jones (that’s “Satch” of the Bowery Boys for those you under 45, LOL).

    Pretty dopey. But I suppose they’re having fun with it so no harm, I guess.

  • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2008 at 8:58 am |

    [quote comment=”274029″][quote comment=”274028″]He’s been wearing it for years.[/quote]

    he has? i did a quick google photo search and the only pictures i can seem to find of him wearing it are from 2008…that’s not to say he hasn’t been wearing it previously, i’m just not finding it with the quick search i did

    any older photos of him? i’d be curious when he started the practice…

    i only ask because last night’s game was in the city by the bay, and it was like 15 degrees (or at least it seemed that way, based on how the players and some fans were dressed)…so it would seem petey wouldn’t have much sweat to mop[/quote]

    9/15/07:
    http://tinyurl.com/3...

    Spring training ’07:
    http://tinyurl.com/3...

    Spring training ’06:
    http://tinyurl.com/3...

    Spring training ’05:
    http://tinyurl.com/4...

    Opening Day ’04
    http://tinyurl.com/3...

    4/5/03:
    http://tinyurl.com/4...

    4/19/02:
    http://tinyurl.com/3...

    And so on.

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    Case Closed…nice work, Paul!

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    thanks paul and luke

    interesting those dates are largely EARLY (or one late) in the season, and for the most part, pedro is wearing sleeves in all of them…(last night he sported half sleeves)…and i don’t recall him ever wearing sweatbands while pitching

    i just wonder if martinez’ glove attachment serves a purpose other than sweat mopping (like, say, comfort)

    and yeah…i have seen players, especially pitchers, sporting those attachments periodically over the years…always assumed they were for sweat, but now im wondering if there is another purpose as well

  • Kek | June 4, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    [quote comment=”274035″]Case Closed…nice work, Paul![/quote]
    Wow, do you have a folder on your desktop labeled “Pedro photos”?!?!?!

    Seriously, good stuff. Nice to have that archived for reference purposes.

  • ryan c #40 | June 4, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    does the “P” in the iron pigs jersey look just A LITTLE familiar??? kek, wanna answer this one???

    http://ironpigsbaseb...

    p.s.
    where are you watching the pens game tonight kek???

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    Another find,

    http://images.sports...

    He was wearing his cleats from last year: The Nike Air 5 Tool in a Mets exclusive color. You’d think they would hook him up with a pair of this year’s 5 Tool or even the Shox Fuse or Huarache 2K4, like his buddies at shortstop, centerfield and third base wear!

    http://images.yuku.c...

    http://i3.photobucke...

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    Sorry, here’s Pedro’s shoes:

    http://images.sports...

    http://images.sports...

    Oh, and BTW, nice work by Luke as well…good find!

  • Kek | June 4, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”274038″]does the “P” in the iron pigs jersey look just A LITTLE familiar??? kek, wanna answer this one???

    http://ironpigsbaseb...

    p.s.
    where are you watching the pens game tonight kek???[/quote]
    Yes, it does look like a familiar font: http://shop.mlb.com/...

    As for Game 6, I’m watching it from the best place there could be: Section 32, Row F Seat 11, with my beautiful wife in Seat 12!!!!!

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”274040″]Sorry, here’s Pedro’s shoes:

    http://images.sports...

    http://images.sports...

    Oh, and BTW, nice work by Luke as well…good find![/quote]

    I pasted the links from the last two Pedro pics in Paul’s opening.

    Are they from a Sportsline account, thus we can’t link them?

    If so, you guys can open Paul’s pics to see hi cleats if you really want to.

  • lukejameslarson | June 4, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    randy johnson pretty much always wears one as well.

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”274043″]randy johnson pretty much always wears one as well.[/quote]

    As well as a kentucky waterfall:

    http://filebox.vt.ed...

    http://www.kniese.id...
    http://www.fansedge....

    Business up front, party in the back!

  • Dustin | June 4, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    Isn’t that helmet on David Trout one of the clear shell ones?

    I was at Miller Park last night, and found these. They’re trying to get $60 for them at the park, pretty expensive for something that isn’t proven by any of our agencies.

  • Jim | June 4, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”274044″][quote comment=”274043″]randy johnson pretty much always wears one as well.[/quote]

    As well as a kentucky waterfall:

    http://filebox.vt.ed...

    http://www.kniese.id...
    http://www.fansedge....

    Business up front, party in the back![/quote]

    Randy is no match for Jagr…..

    http://yinzer24.file...

    Go Wings!

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 10:10 am |

    Yikes! Jagr looks like the girl football player in “Little Giants” all growed up.

    Well, he DOES.

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”274046″][quote comment=”274044″][quote comment=”274043″]randy johnson pretty much always wears one as well.[/quote]

    As well as a kentucky waterfall:

    http://filebox.vt.ed...

    http://www.kniese.id...
    http://www.fansedge....

    Business up front, party in the back![/quote]

    Randy is no match for Jagr…..

    http://yinzer24.file...

    Go Wings![/quote]

    If you make it (and get people to believe they work whether or not they do a darn thing), they will buy.

    Example: My wife gets horrible leg pains at night, and has for years. Somewhere on a random, unverified website somewhere, she read that putting a bar of Ivory soap between the bedsheets near her legs makes the pain go away.

    She tried it. The pain, 90% of the time, goes away.

    Do I think it does anything medically? No. Do I (or does she) care? No. Will she stop using it? No. I’m OK with this.

  • Hank | June 4, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    Chipper needs to go the double-flap route.

  • Dustin | June 4, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”274048″]
    If you make it (and get people to believe they work whether or not they do a darn thing), they will buy.

    Example: My wife gets horrible leg pains at night, and has for years. Somewhere on a random, unverified website somewhere, she read that putting a bar of Ivory soap between the bedsheets near her legs makes the pain go away.

    She tried it. The pain, 90% of the time, goes away.

    Do I think it does anything medically? No. Do I (or does she) care? No. Will she stop using it? No. I’m OK with this.[/quote]

    I understand. I wear one the Phiten products around my neck and one on my wrist, but I still have no hard proof that it does anything. If it only helps psychologically, but it helps, it’s good for me (and I’m too superstitious to take them off).

    The point I wanted to make is that they’re charging 50% more at the stadium for something available online at an affiliated site(and mlbshop.com has them for 39.99 as well).

  • Jim | June 4, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”274047″]Yikes! Jagr looks like the girl football player in “Little Giants” all growed up.

    Well, he DOES.[/quote]

    I remember back in the day watching a game on TV and Lemieux and Jagr (with the Mullet) were shown standing by each other on the ice during a game, and Don Cherry said “Look, there’s Lemieux and his daughter!”. Classic.

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    agreed totally on the psychological aspects of the phiten (and other) magnetic bracelets…

    i wear one of these

    does it improve my golf or tennis game?

    highly unlikely…do i “play” better when i’m wearing one…absolutely

    did i get ripped off? how much does a good shrink cost?

    i’d like to think my aches and pains are removed by wearing the bracelet, but more than likely are merely masked by the 6-8 momentum i take ahead of time

  • MH | June 4, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    “Chipper needs to go the double-flap route.”

    What’s the rule for batters that come to the plate without a proper helmet? Uni rules deserve a little respect.

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    Check this out:

    I was proctoring an exam in an ELL,*English Language Learner) classroom and I saw this “Vowel” poster.

    One image caught my attention:

    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    To some extent pain is an alarm system. It’s telling the brain, “Hey, there’s something wrong here!” If we have an issue that’s permanent, meaning not really gonna worse or better but just hurts, there really is no need for the alarm system. But, the body sends the alarm anyway. Therefore, anything we can to help the brain tell the body, “Yeah, yeah, I know about it, nothing is wrong, so shut up”…will help abate the pain.

    For my first daughter’s birth, I learned to hypnotize/relax my wife, just take her to a calm place where her brain could tell her body, “Yeah, childbirth is weird and (literally) gut-wrenching but it IS natural and normal.” She lay motionless through all her labor pains, had (according to our doctor) 1/6th the normal bleeding, the whole process took 45 minutes (compared to 23 hours for our son), my wife said, “It’s a girl! God, I am SO hungry”, and that birth was the talk of the maternity ward for the next three days (back then women stayed in the hospital longer after delivery). The point is, using your mind to control you body’s reaction to things isn’t hoodoo. It is, in its own way, good science.

  • david | June 4, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    There is nothing weird about Trout’s face mask there is a way to drill the first or second hole that you can dip it forward-up-down or straight. Most kickers dip it down for a full view of the ball. I looked at it a few times-its a standard mask.

  • lukejameslarson | June 4, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”274052″]agreed totally on the psychological aspects of the phiten (and other) magnetic bracelets…

    i wear one of these

    does it improve my golf or tennis game?

    highly unlikely…do i “play” better when i’m wearing one…absolutely

    did i get ripped off? how much does a good shrink cost?

    i’d like to think my aches and pains are removed by wearing the bracelet, but more than likely are merely masked by the 6-8 momentum i take ahead of time[/quote]

    curtis granderson talks about the phiten stuff pretty extensively in his blog you’ll have to scroll down to the 2nd to newest entry. he says he’s not sure if it works either, but he never takes the stuff off. not to shower, not to sleep.

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”274046″][quote comment=”274044″][quote comment=”274043″]randy johnson pretty much always wears one as well.[/quote]

    As well as a kentucky waterfall:

    http://filebox.vt.ed...

    http://www.kniese.id...
    http://www.fansedge....

    Business up front, party in the back![/quote]

    Randy is no match for Jagr…..

    http://yinzer24.file...

    Go Wings![/quote]

    WOW!!!!!!!That is HORRENDOUS! He looks like a member of Heart or something!

    http://bebelestrange...

    By the way, STRIPED SOCK ALERT!!!
    I was looking for photographic evidence on a lacrosse gear website and came across these:

    http://www.lacrossem...

    Check out the outside edge of these Warrior brand lacrosse cleats as well as the heel of the underside pic.

    There are New Balance logos to be found! Interesting!

    http://us.st12.yimg....

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”274055″]Check this out:

    I was proctoring an exam in an ELL,*English Language Learner) classroom and I saw this “Vowel” poster.

    One image caught my attention:

    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...

    No sir. No Cub hat there. No need to get license approval. Nope. That there’s for the Ocago Oubs. Tctally different crganizaticn.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”274060″][quote comment=”274055″]Check this out:

    I was proctoring an exam in an ELL,*English Language Learner) classroom and I saw this “Vowel” poster.

    One image caught my attention:

    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...

    No sir. No Cub hat there. No need to get license approval. Nope. That there’s for the Ocago Oubs. Tctally different crganizaticn.[/quote]

    Damn, I was hoping it was the Ocala Ocelots. Images of their stuff are REALLY hard to find, on account of them never existing and all.

    Yep, a pretty obvious “fix” there.

  • Derek | June 4, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

  • Wade Harder | June 4, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”274047″]Yikes! Jagr looks like the girl football player in “Little Giants” all growed up.

    Well, he DOES.[/quote]

    Thankfully, she turned out to look a little better that Jagr.
    http://a93.ac-images...

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”274056″]To some extent pain is an alarm system. It’s telling the brain, “Hey, there’s something wrong here!” If we have an issue that’s permanent, meaning not really gonna worse or better but just hurts, there really is no need for the alarm system. But, the body sends the alarm anyway. Therefore, anything we can to help the brain tell the body, “Yeah, yeah, I know about it, nothing is wrong, so shut up”…will help abate the pain.

    For my first daughter’s birth, I learned to hypnotize/relax my wife, just take her to a calm place where her brain could tell her body, “Yeah, childbirth is weird and (literally) gut-wrenching but it IS natural and normal.” She lay motionless through all her labor pains, had (according to our doctor) 1/6th the normal bleeding, the whole process took 45 minutes (compared to 23 hours for our son), my wife said, “It’s a girl! God, I am SO hungry”, and that birth was the talk of the maternity ward for the next three days (back then women stayed in the hospital longer after delivery). The point is, using your mind to control you body’s reaction to things isn’t hoodoo. It is, in its own way, good science.[/quote]

    Very good point, Ricko!

    Both of my children were home-births: Mid-Wife, Dula, Birthing pool, Physio-ball, Homeo-Pathic medicines, everything!

    Mind over Body is an incredible concept, that we as a species, have not barely scratched the surface of!

    By the way, did your hypnosis skills have anything to do with how the two of you were put into the situation in the first place?

  • Derek | June 4, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”274064″][quote comment=”274056″]To some extent pain is an alarm system. It’s telling the brain, “Hey, there’s something wrong here!” If we have an issue that’s permanent, meaning not really gonna worse or better but just hurts, there really is no need for the alarm system. But, the body sends the alarm anyway. Therefore, anything we can to help the brain tell the body, “Yeah, yeah, I know about it, nothing is wrong, so shut up”…will help abate the pain.

    For my first daughter’s birth, I learned to hypnotize/relax my wife, just take her to a calm place where her brain could tell her body, “Yeah, childbirth is weird and (literally) gut-wrenching but it IS natural and normal.” She lay motionless through all her labor pains, had (according to our doctor) 1/6th the normal bleeding, the whole process took 45 minutes (compared to 23 hours for our son), my wife said, “It’s a girl! God, I am SO hungry”, and that birth was the talk of the maternity ward for the next three days (back then women stayed in the hospital longer after delivery). The point is, using your mind to control you body’s reaction to things isn’t hoodoo. It is, in its own way, good science.[/quote]

    Very good point, Ricko!

    Both of my children were home-births: Mid-Wife, Dula, Birthing pool, Physio-ball, Homeo-Pathic medicines, everything!

    Mind over Body is an incredible concept, that we as a species, have not barely scratched the surface of!

    By the way, did your hypnosis skills have anything to do with how the two of you were put into the situation in the first place?[/quote]
    and this relates to sports uniforms how?

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    Okay, speaking of mythical Florida teams (see “Oceleots” above), anyone seen “Long Gone” with William Peterson and Virgina Madsen lately? Great but rarely mentioned baseball movie.

    Tampa Stogies, right?

  • Dustin | June 4, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”274058″]

    curtis granderson talks about the phiten stuff pretty extensively in his blog you’ll have to scroll down to the 2nd to newest entry. he says he’s not sure if it works either, but he never takes the stuff off. not to shower, not to sleep.[/quote]
    I think that’s one of the best explanations that I’ve heard about them. I never take mine off, and it’s become part of my normal “fashion.”

    More uni-related. The Brewers and D-Backs went “Spring Training” yesterday, both teams wearing their dark-colored alternates. It seems that the white and grey uniforms are becoming more of an alternate than the alternate uniforms.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=\”274065\”][quote comment=\”274064\”][quote comment=\”274056\”]To some extent pain is an alarm system. It\’s telling the brain, \”Hey, there\’s something wrong here!\” If we have an issue that\’s permanent, meaning not really gonna worse or better but just hurts, there really is no need for the alarm system. But, the body sends the alarm anyway. Therefore, anything we can to help the brain tell the body, \”Yeah, yeah, I know about it, nothing is wrong, so shut up\”…will help abate the pain.

    For my first daughter\’s birth, I learned to hypnotize/relax my wife, just take her to a calm place where her brain could tell her body, \”Yeah, childbirth is weird and (literally) gut-wrenching but it IS natural and normal.\” She lay motionless through all her labor pains, had (according to our doctor) 1/6th the normal bleeding, the whole process took 45 minutes (compared to 23 hours for our son), my wife said, \”It\’s a girl! God, I am SO hungry\”, and that birth was the talk of the maternity ward for the next three days (back then women stayed in the hospital longer after delivery). The point is, using your mind to control you body\’s reaction to things isn\’t hoodoo. It is, in its own way, good science.[/quote]

    Very good point, Ricko!

    Both of my children were home-births: Mid-Wife, Dula, Birthing pool, Physio-ball, Homeo-Pathic medicines, everything!

    Mind over Body is an incredible concept, that we as a species, have not barely scratched the surface of!

    By the way, did your hypnosis skills have anything to do with how the two of you were put into the situation in the first place?[/quote]
    and this relates to sports uniforms how?[/quote]

    We’ve been discussing things like phiten, and whether they’re all b.s. You come to class late again? LOL

  • Derek | June 4, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”274067″][quote comment=”274058″]

    curtis granderson talks about the phiten stuff pretty extensively in his blog you’ll have to scroll down to the 2nd to newest entry. he says he’s not sure if it works either, but he never takes the stuff off. not to shower, not to sleep.[/quote]
    I think that’s one of the best explanations that I’ve heard about them. I never take mine off, and it’s become part of my normal “fashion.”

    More uni-related. The Brewers and D-Backs went “Spring Training” yesterday, both teams wearing their dark-colored alternates. It seems that the white and grey uniforms are becoming more of an alternate than the alternate uniforms.[/quote]
    as they should be

  • Derek | June 4, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”274068″][quote comment=\”274065\”][quote comment=\”274064\”][quote comment=\”274056\”]To some extent pain is an alarm system. It\’s telling the brain, \”Hey, there\’s something wrong here!\” If we have an issue that\’s permanent, meaning not really gonna worse or better but just hurts, there really is no need for the alarm system. But, the body sends the alarm anyway. Therefore, anything we can to help the brain tell the body, \”Yeah, yeah, I know about it, nothing is wrong, so shut up\”…will help abate the pain.

    For my first daughter\’s birth, I learned to hypnotize/relax my wife, just take her to a calm place where her brain could tell her body, \”Yeah, childbirth is weird and (literally) gut-wrenching but it IS natural and normal.\” She lay motionless through all her labor pains, had (according to our doctor) 1/6th the normal bleeding, the whole process took 45 minutes (compared to 23 hours for our son), my wife said, \”It\’s a girl! God, I am SO hungry\”, and that birth was the talk of the maternity ward for the next three days (back then women stayed in the hospital longer after delivery). The point is, using your mind to control you body\’s reaction to things isn\’t hoodoo. It is, in its own way, good science.[/quote]

    Very good point, Ricko!

    Both of my children were home-births: Mid-Wife, Dula, Birthing pool, Physio-ball, Homeo-Pathic medicines, everything!

    Mind over Body is an incredible concept, that we as a species, have not barely scratched the surface of!

    By the way, did your hypnosis skills have anything to do with how the two of you were put into the situation in the first place?[/quote]
    and this relates to sports uniforms how?[/quote]

    We’ve been discussing things like phiten, and whether they’re all b.s. You come to class late again? LOL[/quote]
    well i just out of my “real” class so i guess so

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”274069″][quote comment=”274067″][quote comment=”274058″]

    curtis granderson talks about the phiten stuff pretty extensively in his blog you’ll have to scroll down to the 2nd to newest entry. he says he’s not sure if it works either, but he never takes the stuff off. not to shower, not to sleep.[/quote]
    I think that’s one of the best explanations that I’ve heard about them. I never take mine off, and it’s become part of my normal “fashion.”

    More uni-related. The Brewers and D-Backs went “Spring Training” yesterday, both teams wearing their dark-colored alternates. It seems that the white and grey uniforms are becoming more of an alternate than the alternate uniforms.[/quote]
    as they should be[/quote]

    No soup for you!

  • Jason | June 4, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    No photos, but Victor Martinez has had his second button unbuttoned for the last two nights.

  • xyz | June 4, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    Dustin,
    I don’t think they ever made clear shell helmets for baseball (only football) and they only made them up until the 80’s. Also, I doubt that they would start now but I could be wrong.

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”274065″][quote comment=”274064″][quote comment=”274056″]To some extent pain is an alarm system. It’s telling the brain, “Hey, there’s something wrong here!” If we have an issue that’s permanent, meaning not really gonna worse or better but just hurts, there really is no need for the alarm system. But, the body sends the alarm anyway. Therefore, anything we can to help the brain tell the body, “Yeah, yeah, I know about it, nothing is wrong, so shut up”…will help abate the pain.

    For my first daughter’s birth, I learned to hypnotize/relax my wife, just take her to a calm place where her brain could tell her body, “Yeah, childbirth is weird and (literally) gut-wrenching but it IS natural and normal.” She lay motionless through all her labor pains, had (according to our doctor) 1/6th the normal bleeding, the whole process took 45 minutes (compared to 23 hours for our son), my wife said, “It’s a girl! God, I am SO hungry”, and that birth was the talk of the maternity ward for the next three days (back then women stayed in the hospital longer after delivery). The point is, using your mind to control you body’s reaction to things isn’t hoodoo. It is, in its own way, good science.[/quote]

    Very good point, Ricko!

    Both of my children were home-births: Mid-Wife, Dula, Birthing pool, Physio-ball, Homeo-Pathic medicines, everything!

    Mind over Body is an incredible concept, that we as a species, have not barely scratched the surface of!

    By the way, did your hypnosis skills have anything to do with how the two of you were put into the situation in the first place?[/quote]
    and this relates to sports uniforms how?[/quote]

    Your’e right, Derek!

    Phiten type materials, although bunk to some people, might actually serve as the placebo some people need to get through their day.

    Ask Carlos Guillen!

  • Derek | June 4, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    pretty ugly jersey for sale here
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • xyz | June 4, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    Dustin,
    Ignore comment #47 as I am an idiot. What I should have said is that the David Trout helmet looks like it has a Riddell label on the front nose bumper and therefore it would not be a clear shell as Riddell only made clear shells for a short period in the 50’s.

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    [quote]and this relates to sports uniforms how?[/quote]

    relax dude

    not every post is about uniforms

    they should at least be sports related however

    and unless matt wants to share pics of his lovely wife birthing and wearing a uni, then your point is at least somewhat germane

  • Joey Guns | June 4, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    Paul, is Joe Skiba still going to be on the History Channel show “Modern Marvels” at 8 PM on Friday, June 6th? You mentioned this a month or so ago.

  • Derek | June 4, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    you would think that would’ve used a better picture for this jersey. Look at the bottom right of the the A

  • B-Jud | June 4, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    I think Jason Varitek, also a switch hitter, pulled what Chipper pulled regarding the wrong helmet last year or two years ago. I’m not sure when nor do I have any pictures/video, but I remember this happening.

  • Derek | June 4, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”274080″]I think Jason Varitek, also a switch hitter, pulled what Chipper pulled regarding the wrong helmet last year or two years ago. I’m not sure when nor do I have any pictures/video, but I remember this happening.[/quote]
    i remember that happening

  • Jordan | June 4, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    OU is auctioning off some older football helmets & scoreboard items for those who are interested.
    http://www.soonerspo...

  • scott | June 4, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”274071″][quote comment=”274069″][quote comment=”274067″][quote comment=”274058″]

    curtis granderson talks about the phiten stuff pretty extensively in his blog you’ll have to scroll down to the 2nd to newest entry. he says he’s not sure if it works either, but he never takes the stuff off. not to shower, not to sleep.[/quote]
    I think that’s one of the best explanations that I’ve heard about them. I never take mine off, and it’s become part of my normal “fashion.”

    More uni-related. The Brewers and D-Backs went “Spring Training” yesterday, both teams wearing their dark-colored alternates. It seems that the white and grey uniforms are becoming more of an alternate than the alternate uniforms.[/quote]
    as they should be[/quote]

    No soup for you![/quote]

    I understand MLB now has a rule that two teams can’t both wear their dark colored uniforms in the same game if they are the same color. But I think MLB should take it a step farther and mandate that only one team can wear a dark colored uniform in a game. These “spring training” games are becoming all too common, and look absolutely ridiculous.

  • Dustin | June 4, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”274068″]

    We’ve been discussing things like phiten, and whether they’re all b.s. You come to class late again? LOL[/quote]

    Not quite. They’ve started branding them with MLB tags and team wordmarks. My point, back in comment 27 deals with the pricing of online versus stadium, for the same product, so I thought it would be a relatively new topic.

    Since players are wearing the team-branded version, and they are available to the public, I thought that it might be worth talking about. I accidentally mentioned the effect of them in my first post, which lead people down a different path. I apologize for shaking up an old subject.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | June 4, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”274083″][quote comment=”274071″][quote comment=”274069″][quote comment=”274067″][quote comment=”274058″]

    curtis granderson talks about the phiten stuff pretty extensively in his blog you’ll have to scroll down to the 2nd to newest entry. he says he’s not sure if it works either, but he never takes the stuff off. not to shower, not to sleep.[/quote]
    I think that’s one of the best explanations that I’ve heard about them. I never take mine off, and it’s become part of my normal “fashion.”

    More uni-related. The Brewers and D-Backs went “Spring Training” yesterday, both teams wearing their dark-colored alternates. It seems that the white and grey uniforms are becoming more of an alternate than the alternate uniforms.[/quote]
    as they should be[/quote]

    No soup for you![/quote]

    I understand MLB now has a rule that two teams can’t both wear their dark colored uniforms in the same game if they are the same color. But I think MLB should take it a step farther and mandate that only one team can wear a dark colored uniform in a game. These “spring training” games are becoming all too common, and look absolutely ridiculous.[/quote]

    Well with baseball having one of the most superstitious players in sports, a lot of guys believe their colored jerseys are lucky. Carlos Zambrano is one of them. I know I was like that and a lot of guys I played with in high school were like that. I personally don’t have a problem with 2 teams wearing their colored alternates (as long they aren’t the same color then obviously a rule should be enforced).

    Nor do I have a problem with the Pedro’s 2nd button undone thing. The more unique the superstition the cooler I think it is…no matter how odd or OCD-esque it is.

    What would Sports be like without uniqueness?

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | June 4, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”274074″][quote comment=”274065″][quote comment=”274064″][quote comment=”274056″]To some extent pain is an alarm system. It’s telling the brain, “Hey, there’s something wrong here!” If we have an issue that’s permanent, meaning not really gonna worse or better but just hurts, there really is no need for the alarm system. But, the body sends the alarm anyway. Therefore, anything we can to help the brain tell the body, “Yeah, yeah, I know about it, nothing is wrong, so shut up”…will help abate the pain.

    For my first daughter’s birth, I learned to hypnotize/relax my wife, just take her to a calm place where her brain could tell her body, “Yeah, childbirth is weird and (literally) gut-wrenching but it IS natural and normal.” She lay motionless through all her labor pains, had (according to our doctor) 1/6th the normal bleeding, the whole process took 45 minutes (compared to 23 hours for our son), my wife said, “It’s a girl! God, I am SO hungry”, and that birth was the talk of the maternity ward for the next three days (back then women stayed in the hospital longer after delivery). The point is, using your mind to control you body’s reaction to things isn’t hoodoo. It is, in its own way, good science.[/quote]

    Very good point, Ricko!

    Both of my children were home-births: Mid-Wife, Dula, Birthing pool, Physio-ball, Homeo-Pathic medicines, everything!

    Mind over Body is an incredible concept, that we as a species, have not barely scratched the surface of!

    By the way, did your hypnosis skills have anything to do with how the two of you were put into the situation in the first place?[/quote]
    and this relates to sports uniforms how?[/quote]

    Your’e right, Derek!

    Phiten type materials, although bunk to some people, might actually serve as the placebo some people need to get through their day.

    Ask Carlos Guillen![/quote]

    I thought the whole Phiten thing was a bunch phooey but after using one of their necklaces the other day, during a 2 game 7 hour session of softball, I found my upper body more relaxed. I’m not sure if it really works or it’s all in your head but I’m going to give it a few more tests before I make a judgment.

    The first 30 minutes of using it I found myself a little light headed. Right after that I felt balanced and relaxed.

  • daverak@comcast.net | June 4, 2008 at 12:10 pm |

    Why are some of the SF Giants helmet logos so much larger, and brighter than others. And the numbers on the jerseys seem to be too big also.

  • The Ol Goaler | June 4, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    I don’t recall exactly when earflaps became mandatory on batting helmets; as was the case with the helmets themselves, players already in the big leagues, such as switch-hitter Ozzie Smith were “grandfathered” in, and weren’t required to wear earflaps.

    If I recall correctly, switch-hitters who came along later, such as Willie McGee wore double-earflaps. I’m not sure just when “switchers” started wearing different helmets based upon which side they were hitting from that at-bat…

    And then there was the All-Star Game where Larry Walker wore his helmet backwards and batted right-handed against Randy Johnson!

  • Jim | June 4, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    They should go back to these..

    http://www.iceallsta...

    always loved those…

  • Duckstyle | June 4, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    Phiten=snake oil. I’d rather waste my money on tangible things, like bottled water. Yummy.

  • Robin | June 4, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”274061″][quote comment=”274060″][quote comment=”274055″]Check this out:

    I was proctoring an exam in an ELL,*English Language Learner) classroom and I saw this “Vowel” poster.

    One image caught my attention:

    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...
    http://i256.photobuc...

    No sir. No Cub hat there. No need to get license approval. Nope. That there’s for the Ocago Oubs. Tctally different crganizaticn.[/quote]

    Damn, I was hoping it was the Ocala Ocelots. Images of their stuff are REALLY hard to find, on account of them never existing and all.

    Yep, a pretty obvious “fix” there.[/quote]

    The fix doesn’t bother me, but I wish the bill had some semblance of a curve, however.

  • Jim | June 4, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”274045″]Isn’t that helmet on David Trout one of the clear shell ones?

    I was at Miller Park last night, and found these. They’re trying to get $60 for them at the park, pretty expensive for something that isn’t proven by any of our agencies.[/quote]

    I’m sorry, but what part of that necklace is titanium? Is it where the “M”s are? Looks like a shoelace with a buckle.

  • Patrick | June 4, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”274066″]Okay, speaking of mythical Florida teams (see “Oceleots” above), anyone seen “Long Gone” with William Peterson and Virgina Madsen lately? Great but rarely mentioned baseball movie.

    Tampa Stogies, right?[/quote]

    Close. Tampico Stogies. Great but largely forgotten movie about minor league baseball. I remember they played the Dothan Cardinals in the climactic game.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | June 4, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    I don’t hate purple…and I LOVE THOSE JERSEYS! WOW!
    I do especially LOVE that black based jersey..OOOOWEE! Those would be the most “flavorful” uniforms in the NHL.

  • Your Mom | June 4, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    Does the Big Unit have a cross tattoo on the inside of his right(I think) wrist? I thought I caught a glimpse of it on his barehanded grab on Sportscenter last night. Never seen/noticed it before.

  • E_Ro | June 4, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”274094″][quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    I don’t hate purple…and I LOVE THOSE JERSEYS! WOW!
    I do especially LOVE that black based jersey..OOOOWEE! Those would be the most “flavorful” uniforms in the NHL.[/quote]

    Personally i hate the black based ones, it looks like a late 1990’s IHL sweater. I do like the gold purple though. Replace the “Los Angeles” at the bottom with a hem stripe and then you have a winner.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 12:57 pm |

    Remember the late 60s, early 70s when the Kings–like the Lakers’ color scheme–wore all light gold (sweaters, breezers, socks) at home in the new Forum and all purple on the road? Now there was a look. Not saying was great, but sure was distinctive. Definitely was that.

  • odessa steps magazin | June 4, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    Aston Villa’s new kit features a charity as its main shirt advertiser. Barcelona did something similar with UNICEF a few years ago.

    http://img516.images...

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”274079″]you would think that would’ve used a better picture for this jersey. Look at the bottom right of the the A[/quote]

    Staring intently at that photo, just waiting for a bug-eyed hobbit to scream at me, and I don’t see whatever is supposed to be at the bottom right. A little help, please?

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    Some how, some way, I’m sure this is uni-related … or at least uni-watching-related:

    http://youtube.com/w...

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    not all of us hate purple…i rather like the color, although certain shades of it are much more preferable to others (ie…burgundy or wine as opposed to lavender)…and i LIKE that kings concept

    possibly a new third sweater for next season, or a complete ‘makeover’ for the future?

    don’t know if i’d go so far as to call it ‘instant classic’, but it’s definitely well worth pursuing for the future

  • Patrick | June 4, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”274101″][quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    Purple and gold (yellow) is a great color combination. I love the old Kings uniforms, and I think the Lakers have maybe the best uniforms in the NBA. So no, not everyone here hates purple.
    not all of us hate purple…i rather like the color, although certain shades of it are much more preferable to others (ie…burgundy or wine as opposed to lavender)…and i LIKE that kings concept

    possibly a new third sweater for next season, or a complete ‘makeover’ for the future?

    don’t know if i’d go so far as to call it ‘instant classic’, but it’s definitely well worth pursuing for the future[/quote]

  • Patrick | June 4, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    Crap, screwed up the above quote. My part was this:

    Purple and gold (yellow) is a great color combination. I love the old Kings uniforms, and I think the Lakers have maybe the best uniforms in the NBA. So no, not everyone here hates purple.

  • Duckstyle | June 4, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”274101″][quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    not all of us hate purple…i rather like the color, although certain shades of it are much more preferable to others (ie…burgundy or wine as opposed to lavender)…and i LIKE that kings concept

    possibly a new third sweater for next season, or a complete ‘makeover’ for the future?

    don’t know if i’d go so far as to call it ‘instant classic’, but it’s definitely well worth pursuing for the future[/quote]

    I pretty much hate purple, when it comes to sports uni’s anyway. But it can be done classy. But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”274104″][quote comment=”274101″][quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    not all of us hate purple…i rather like the color, although certain shades of it are much more preferable to others (ie…burgundy or wine as opposed to lavender)…and i LIKE that kings concept

    possibly a new third sweater for next season, or a complete ‘makeover’ for the future?

    don’t know if i’d go so far as to call it ‘instant classic’, but it’s definitely well worth pursuing for the future[/quote]

    I pretty much hate purple, when it comes to sports uni’s anyway. But it can be done classy. But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?

  • Teebz | June 4, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”274097″]Remember the late 60s, early 70s when the Kings–like the Lakers’ color scheme–wore all light gold (sweaters, breezers, socks) at home in the new Forum and all purple on the road? Now there was a look. Not saying was great, but sure was distinctive. Definitely was that.[/quote]

    I direct you here, Ricko.

    http://i135.photobuc...

  • Hank | June 4, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”274078″]Paul, is Joe Skiba still going to be on the History Channel show “Modern Marvels” at 8 PM on Friday, June 6th?

    You mentioned this a month or so ago.[/quote]
    I checked the Modern Marvels upcoming schedule for 6/6 and the two episodes to air are ‘Truck Stops’ and ‘Paint’. He could be in Paint and talk about painting helmets.

  • Hank | June 4, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”274054″]”Chipper needs to go the double-flap route.”

    What’s the rule for batters that come to the plate without a proper helmet? Uni rules deserve a little respect.[/quote]

    Officially, MLB only requires that the batting helmet have their logo on the back. The rules don’t seem to cover brain-fart uni moments.

  • Duckstyle | June 4, 2008 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”274105″][quote comment=”274104″][quote comment=”274101″][quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    not all of us hate purple…i rather like the color, although certain shades of it are much more preferable to others (ie…burgundy or wine as opposed to lavender)…and i LIKE that kings concept

    possibly a new third sweater for next season, or a complete ‘makeover’ for the future?

    don’t know if i’d go so far as to call it ‘instant classic’, but it’s definitely well worth pursuing for the future[/quote]

    I pretty much hate purple, when it comes to sports uni’s anyway. But it can be done classy. But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?[/quote]

    Not in practicle terms. I’ve never seen anyone refer to burgundy as being a shade of purple before. I’d say it’s about 90% red, with the slightest hint of purple, and according to this wikipedia entry I’d be right. And since I refer to wikipedia as the center of all human knowledge, I think its credibility speaks for itself.

  • Duckstyle | June 4, 2008 at 1:28 pm |

    Of course I left out the link.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”274108″][quote comment=”274054″]”Chipper needs to go the double-flap route.”

    What’s the rule for batters that come to the plate without a proper helmet? Uni rules deserve a little respect.[/quote]

    Officially, MLB only requires that the batting helmet have their logo on the back. The rules don’t seem to cover brain-fart uni moments.[/quote]

    … or at least it won’t until someone gets hit in the ear, at which time batters, pitchers, infielders, base-coaches and umpires will all be required to wear double-flap, cage-faced helmets, the cost of which will be offset by enormous amounts of advertising space sold on said helmets. The first of these advertising spaces will be sold to Target … then pulled off after the first game (in which 20 batters are sent to the hospital with concussions).

  • Jim | June 4, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”274109″][quote comment=”274105″][quote comment=”274104″][quote comment=”274101″][quote comment=”274062″]I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    not all of us hate purple…i rather like the color, although certain shades of it are much more preferable to others (ie…burgundy or wine as opposed to lavender)…and i LIKE that kings concept

    possibly a new third sweater for next season, or a complete ‘makeover’ for the future?

    don’t know if i’d go so far as to call it ‘instant classic’, but it’s definitely well worth pursuing for the future[/quote]

    I pretty much hate purple, when it comes to sports uni’s anyway. But it can be done classy. But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?[/quote]

    Not in practicle terms. I’ve never seen anyone refer to burgundy as being a shade of purple before. I’d say it’s about 90% red, with the slightest hint of purple, and according to this wikipedia entry I’d be right. And since I refer to wikipedia as the center of all human knowledge, I think its credibility speaks for itself.[/quote]

    Another reason I don’t take Wiki seriuously: In the definitiaon of Burgundy, it says “tinge” of purple. Any informational source that uses “tinge” makes itself look silly.

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”274109″][quote comment=”274105″][quote comment=”274104″]But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?[/quote]

    Not in practicle terms. I’ve never seen anyone refer to burgundy as being a shade of purple before. I’d say it’s about 90% red, with the slightest hint of purple, and according to this wikipedia entry I’d be right. And since I refer to wikipedia as the center of all human knowledge, I think its credibility speaks for itself.[/quote]

    *stabs self with sharp implement*

    fine…i wasn’t stating that wine or burgundy is a shade of purple (versus red) to provoke any type of rational thought…

    i was merely stating i prefer the deeper, darker hues of purple (would ‘plum’ be a better descriptive adjective?) as opposed to the lighter, more pastelish-lavender

    luv ya tho ducks, and thanks for grabbin my back, jim!

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”274062″]
    Another reason I don’t take Wiki seriuously: In the definitiaon of Burgundy, it says “tinge” of purple. Any informational source that uses “tinge” makes itself look silly.[/quote]

    Definitely a tinge of truth to that.

  • Jim | June 4, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”274113″][quote comment=”274109″][quote comment=”274105″][quote comment=”274104″]But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?[/quote]

    Not in practicle terms. I’ve never seen anyone refer to burgundy as being a shade of purple before. I’d say it’s about 90% red, with the slightest hint of purple, and according to this wikipedia entry I’d be right. And since I refer to wikipedia as the center of all human knowledge, I think its credibility speaks for itself.[/quote]

    *stabs self with sharp implement*

    fine…i wasn’t stating that wine or burgundy is a shade of purple (versus red) to provoke any type of rational thought…

    i was merely stating i prefer the deeper, darker hues of purple (would ‘plum’ be a better descriptive adjective?) as opposed to the lighter, more pastelish-lavender

    luv ya tho ducks, and thanks for grabbin my back, jim![/quote]

    No problem Phil…

  • Duckstyle | June 4, 2008 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”274113″][quote comment=”274109″][quote comment=”274105″][quote comment=”274104″]But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?[/quote]

    Not in practicle terms. I’ve never seen anyone refer to burgundy as being a shade of purple before. I’d say it’s about 90% red, with the slightest hint of purple, and according to this wikipedia entry I’d be right. And since I refer to wikipedia as the center of all human knowledge, I think its credibility speaks for itself.[/quote]

    *stabs self with sharp implement*

    fine…i wasn’t stating that wine or burgundy is a shade of purple (versus red) to provoke any type of rational thought…

    i was merely stating i prefer the deeper, darker hues of purple (would ‘plum’ be a better descriptive adjective?) as opposed to the lighter, more pastelish-lavender

    luv ya tho ducks, and thanks for grabbin my back, jim![/quote]

    Yes, plum is acceptable. Carry on.

  • Kate | June 4, 2008 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”274050″][quote comment=”274048″]
    If you make it (and get people to believe they work whether or not they do a darn thing), they will buy.

    Example: My wife gets horrible leg pains at night, and has for years. Somewhere on a random, unverified website somewhere, she read that putting a bar of Ivory soap between the bedsheets near her legs makes the pain go away.

    She tried it. The pain, 90% of the time, goes away.

    Do I think it does anything medically? No. Do I (or does she) care? No. Will she stop using it? No. I’m OK with this.[/quote]

    I understand. I wear one the Phiten products around my neck and one on my wrist, but I still have no hard proof that it does anything. If it only helps psychologically, but it helps, it’s good for me (and I’m too superstitious to take them off).

    The point I wanted to make is that they’re charging 50% more at the stadium for something available online at an affiliated site(and mlbshop.com has them for 39.99 as well).[/quote]

    Do the Brewers own the shop at Miller park, or is the shop owned by an outside business such as Aramark? That will make a difference in pricing from what is available from shopping through mlb.com or directly through the team.

  • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2008 at 2:05 pm |

    New ESPN column is up and running:
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Mike Edgerly | June 4, 2008 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”274098″]Aston Villa’s new kit features a charity as its main shirt advertiser. Barcelona did something similar with UNICEF a few years ago.

    http://img516.images...
    Is Aston Villa paying that charity, much like Barca pays UNICEF?

    In any case it’s an improvement over their old jersey sponsor, online betting company 32RED. It always makes me a little queasy when I see that and other betting operations (Bet24, Bwin, Unibet) sponsoring kits.

  • derek | June 4, 2008 at 2:10 pm |

    excellent picture right there

  • derek | June 4, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”274121″]excellent picture right there[/quote]
    http://farm3.static....
    heres the link

  • Brendon | June 4, 2008 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”274049″]Chipper needs to go the double-flap route.[/quote]

    A la Shin Soo Choo

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”274106″][quote comment=”274097″]Remember the late 60s, early 70s when the Kings–like the Lakers’ color scheme–wore all light gold (sweaters, breezers, socks) at home in the new Forum and all purple on the road? Now there was a look. Not saying was great, but sure was distinctive. Definitely was that.[/quote]

    I direct you here, Ricko.

    http://i135.photobuc...

    Hey, that Vachon SI cover was exactly the image I was remembering, that those unis showed up on an SI cover.

  • chance | June 4, 2008 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”274066″]Okay, speaking of mythical Florida teams (see “Oceleots” above), anyone seen “Long Gone” with William Peterson and Virgina Madsen lately? Great but rarely mentioned baseball movie.

    Tampa Stogies, right?[/quote]

    Looks like it.

    HBO movie, back in the days when that didn’t scream quality, so I guess it’s not surprising that the film isn’t well remembered.

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”274116″][quote comment=”274113″][quote comment=”274109″][quote comment=”274105″][quote comment=”274104″]But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?[/quote]

    Not in practicle terms. I’ve never seen anyone refer to burgundy as being a shade of purple before. I’d say it’s about 90% red, with the slightest hint of purple, and according to this wikipedia entry I’d be right. And since I refer to wikipedia as the center of all human knowledge, I think its credibility speaks for itself.[/quote]

    *stabs self with sharp implement*

    fine…i wasn’t stating that wine or burgundy is a shade of purple (versus red) to provoke any type of rational thought…

    i was merely stating i prefer the deeper, darker hues of purple (would ‘plum’ be a better descriptive adjective?) as opposed to the lighter, more pastelish-lavender

    luv ya tho ducks, and thanks for grabbin my back, jim![/quote]

    Yes, plum is acceptable. Carry on.[/quote]

    How are these as shades of purple?

    http://www.aubreyflo...

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • Duckstyle | June 4, 2008 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”274126″][quote comment=”274116″][quote comment=”274113″][quote comment=”274109″][quote comment=”274105″][quote comment=”274104″]But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?[/quote]

    Not in practicle terms. I’ve never seen anyone refer to burgundy as being a shade of purple before. I’d say it’s about 90% red, with the slightest hint of purple, and according to this wikipedia entry I’d be right. And since I refer to wikipedia as the center of all human knowledge, I think its credibility speaks for itself.[/quote]

    *stabs self with sharp implement*

    fine…i wasn’t stating that wine or burgundy is a shade of purple (versus red) to provoke any type of rational thought…

    i was merely stating i prefer the deeper, darker hues of purple (would ‘plum’ be a better descriptive adjective?) as opposed to the lighter, more pastelish-lavender

    luv ya tho ducks, and thanks for grabbin my back, jim![/quote]

    Yes, plum is acceptable. Carry on.[/quote]

    How are these as shades of purple?

    http://www.aubreyflo...

    http://i256.photobuc...

    I usually shy away from any colors that my mom might refer to as “darling”.

  • derek | June 4, 2008 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”274126″][quote comment=”274116″][quote comment=”274113″][quote comment=”274109″][quote comment=”274105″][quote comment=”274104″]But Phil, wine and burgundy are shades of red, not purple.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t any color on the spectrum between pure blue and pure red be SOME shade of purple?[/quote]

    Not in practicle terms. I’ve never seen anyone refer to burgundy as being a shade of purple before. I’d say it’s about 90% red, with the slightest hint of purple, and according to this wikipedia entry I’d be right. And since I refer to wikipedia as the center of all human knowledge, I think its credibility speaks for itself.[/quote]

    *stabs self with sharp implement*

    fine…i wasn’t stating that wine or burgundy is a shade of purple (versus red) to provoke any type of rational thought…

    i was merely stating i prefer the deeper, darker hues of purple (would ‘plum’ be a better descriptive adjective?) as opposed to the lighter, more pastelish-lavender

    luv ya tho ducks, and thanks for grabbin my back, jim![/quote]

    Yes, plum is acceptable. Carry on.[/quote]

    How are these as shades of purple?

    http://www.aubreyflo...

    http://i256.photobuc...
    i would consider those shades of purple

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”274119″]New ESPN column is up and running:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Bummer … I know this is the week to discuss this stuff, and I like most sports’ uniform discussions, but for some reason, racing silk talk is a major yawner to me. Maybe its because the basic idea of racing silks is to make one rider/horse stand out from all the rest. They’re SUPPOSED to be different looking.

    Not trying to bite the hand that feeds us hours of entertainment, just stating my opinion. Thanks for all you do!

  • derek | June 4, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”274129″][quote comment=”274119″]New ESPN column is up and running:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Bummer … I know this is the week to discuss this stuff, and I like most sports’ uniform discussions, but for some reason, racing silk talk is a major yawner to me. Maybe its because the basic idea of racing silks is to make one rider/horse stand out from all the rest. They’re SUPPOSED to be different looking.

    Not trying to bite the hand that feeds us hours of entertainment, just stating my opinion. Thanks for all you do![/quote]
    i agree 100%

  • Paul Lukas | June 4, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”274130″][quote comment=”274129″][quote comment=”274119″]New ESPN column is up and running:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Bummer … I know this is the week to discuss this stuff, and I like most sports’ uniform discussions, but for some reason, racing silk talk is a major yawner to me. Maybe its because the basic idea of racing silks is to make one rider/horse stand out from all the rest. They’re SUPPOSED to be different looking.

    Not trying to bite the hand that feeds us hours of entertainment, just stating my opinion. Thanks for all you do![/quote]
    i agree 100%[/quote]

    I’m not a big horse racing fan myself, but I’ve really enjoyed working on these two columns I’ve recently done (one on the jockeys, the other on the horses). I’ve learned SO much! Sorry if it’s not your cuppa, but I think they’re very much in keeping with the basic Uni Watch ethos.

  • chance | June 4, 2008 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”274111″][quote comment=”274108″][quote comment=”274054″]”Chipper needs to go the double-flap route.”

    What’s the rule for batters that come to the plate without a proper helmet? Uni rules deserve a little respect.[/quote]

    Officially, MLB only requires that the batting helmet have their logo on the back. The rules don’t seem to cover brain-fart uni moments.[/quote]

    … or at least it won’t until someone gets hit in the ear, at which time batters, pitchers, infielders, base-coaches and umpires will all be required to wear double-flap, cage-faced helmets, the cost of which will be offset by enormous amounts of advertising space sold on said helmets. The first of these advertising spaces will be sold to Target … then pulled off after the first game (in which 20 batters are sent to the hospital with concussions).[/quote]

    Not to start this debate again, but considering that the helmets were mandated after an incident when a base coach was not struck on the head, I’d say that a batter struck on the ear will result in MLB mandating shin guards for every plate appearance….

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”274126″]How are these as shades of purple?

    http://www.aubreyflo...

    now that’s a lavender i could get into

  • chance | June 4, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”274131″][quote comment=”274130″][quote comment=”274129″][quote comment=”274119″]New ESPN column is up and running:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Bummer … I know this is the week to discuss this stuff, and I like most sports’ uniform discussions, but for some reason, racing silk talk is a major yawner to me. Maybe its because the basic idea of racing silks is to make one rider/horse stand out from all the rest. They’re SUPPOSED to be different looking.

    Not trying to bite the hand that feeds us hours of entertainment, just stating my opinion. Thanks for all you do![/quote]
    i agree 100%[/quote]

    I’m not a big horse racing fan myself, but I’ve really enjoyed working on these two columns I’ve recently done (one on the jockeys, the other on the horses). I’ve learned SO much! Sorry if it’s not your cuppa, but I think they’re very much in keeping with the basic Uni Watch ethos.[/quote]

    I’m not a big horseracing fan either, but I’ve really enjoyed these articles. Still probably won’t go out of my way to watch the race, but when I catch one in the future I’ll have a much deeper appreciation for the aesthetics. Well done, Paul.

  • Jim | June 4, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”274134″][quote comment=”274131″][quote comment=”274130″][quote comment=”274129″][quote comment=”274119″]New ESPN column is up and running:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Bummer … I know this is the week to discuss this stuff, and I like most sports’ uniform discussions, but for some reason, racing silk talk is a major yawner to me. Maybe its because the basic idea of racing silks is to make one rider/horse stand out from all the rest. They’re SUPPOSED to be different looking.

    Not trying to bite the hand that feeds us hours of entertainment, just stating my opinion. Thanks for all you do![/quote]
    i agree 100%[/quote]

    I’m not a big horse racing fan myself, but I’ve really enjoyed working on these two columns I’ve recently done (one on the jockeys, the other on the horses). I’ve learned SO much! Sorry if it’s not your cuppa, but I think they’re very much in keeping with the basic Uni Watch ethos.[/quote]

    I’m not a big horseracing fan either, but I’ve really enjoyed these articles. Still probably won’t go out of my way to watch the race, but when I catch one in the future I’ll have a much deeper appreciation for the aesthetics. Well done, Paul.[/quote]

    One thing I have learned is that the jockey’s silk is based after the stable’s colors. Thought that was cool because I always thought it was up to the jockeys to pick what they wore. Like their own personal uniform, nice to know that blaming the jockey for looking ridiculas was wrong.

  • Roger Faso | June 4, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    This one is for you, Paul.

    No black hats or alternates. Just good times and a patch being sewn onto a jersey.

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”274134″][quote comment=”274131″][quote comment=”274130″][quote comment=”274129″][quote comment=”274119″]New ESPN column is up and running:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Bummer … I know this is the week to discuss this stuff, and I like most sports’ uniform discussions, but for some reason, racing silk talk is a major yawner to me. Maybe its because the basic idea of racing silks is to make one rider/horse stand out from all the rest. They’re SUPPOSED to be different looking.

    Not trying to bite the hand that feeds us hours of entertainment, just stating my opinion. Thanks for all you do![/quote]
    i agree 100%[/quote]

    I’m not a big horse racing fan myself, but I’ve really enjoyed working on these two columns I’ve recently done (one on the jockeys, the other on the horses). I’ve learned SO much! Sorry if it’s not your cuppa, but I think they’re very much in keeping with the basic Uni Watch ethos.[/quote]

    I’m not a big horseracing fan either, but I’ve really enjoyed these articles. Still probably won’t go out of my way to watch the race, but when I catch one in the future I’ll have a much deeper appreciation for the aesthetics. Well done, Paul.[/quote]

    Nicely stated. Now, can we get back to baseball? I haven’t checked the standings today. Who are the top teams out there?

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    said it after the preakness and i likely won’t be on this weekend, so i’ll say it here

    if you can be anywhere near a tv this weekend, WATCH THE BELMONT

    you will be seeing history…big brown WILL win the TC, and you can take that to the bank

    we’ve been disappointed before, i know, but not this time…i remember actually watching the 1973 belmont (secretariat) with my parents (as a clueless 7 year old) but knowing something magical was happening…then being sort of into it for slew and affirmed in 77 & 78…i thought “wow, this triple crown isn’t a big deal…it happens so often”

    well…it aint happened since and that’s 30 years…but it’s gonna happen saturday

    you can all tell your grandkids you were there, like the 250,000 who saw the first super bowl live or the 45,000 who saw the last game at ebbets field live…and everyone who helped complete the human chain in ‘hands across america’

    thanks for the two UW articles on the ponies and their ‘unis,’ paul

  • Duckstyle | June 4, 2008 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”274133″][quote comment=”274126″]How are these as shades of purple?

    http://www.aubreyflo...

    now that’s a lavender i could get into[/quote]

    Wow, she looks waaaay to much like the Joker for me.

    http://blogs.telecin...

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”274139″][quote comment=”274133″][quote comment=”274126″]How are these as shades of purple?

    http://www.aubreyflo...

    now that’s a lavender i could get into[/quote]

    Wow, she looks waaaay to much like the Joker for me.

    http://blogs.telecin...

    i guess you’re off matt’s buddy list then

  • Marty Met | June 4, 2008 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”274136″]This one is for you, Paul.

    No black hats or alternates. Just good times and a patch being sewn onto a jersey.

    http://www.youtube.c...

    and a clip of George Foster in a Metropolitans uniform. My day is ruined.

  • Duckstyle | June 4, 2008 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”274140″][quote comment=”274139″][quote comment=”274133″][quote comment=”274126″]How are these as shades of purple?

    http://www.aubreyflo...

    now that’s a lavender i could get into[/quote]

    Wow, she looks waaaay to much like the Joker for me.

    http://blogs.telecin...

    i guess you’re off matt’s buddy list then[/quote]

    lol, well I was refering more to the color choice and red lipstick, but I guess in hindsight comparing a woman to Jack Nicholson probably isn’t very nice.

  • ryan c #40 | June 4, 2008 at 3:54 pm |

    “does the “P” in the iron pigs jersey look just A LITTLE familiar??? kek, wanna answer this one???
    http://ironpigsbaseb
    p.s.
    where are you watching the pens game tonight kek???
    Yes, it does look like a familiar font: http://shop.mlb.com/
    As for Game 6, I’m watching it from the best place there could be: Section 32, Row F Seat 11, with my beautiful wife in Seat 12!!!!!”

    AWESOME!!! ENJOY!!! i’ll be watching it from my couch (with a beautiful girl that cares not too much for hockey. LOL!!!).

    HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME TONIGHT!!!

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | June 4, 2008 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”274138″]said it after the preakness and i likely won’t be on this weekend, so i’ll say it here

    if you can be anywhere near a tv this weekend, WATCH THE BELMONT

    you will be seeing history…big brown WILL win the TC, and you can take that to the bank

    we’ve been disappointed before, i know, but not this time…i remember actually watching the 1973 belmont (secretariat) with my parents (as a clueless 7 year old) but knowing something magical was happening…then being sort of into it for slew and affirmed in 77 & 78…i thought “wow, this triple crown isn’t a big deal…it happens so often”

    well…it aint happened since and that’s 30 years…but it’s gonna happen saturday

    you can all tell your grandkids you were there, like the 250,000 who saw the first super bowl live or the 45,000 who saw the last game at ebbets field live…and everyone who helped complete the human chain in ‘hands across america’

    thanks for the two UW articles on the ponies and their ‘unis,’ paul[/quote]

    I second that.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    On the subject of the Mets.

    The photo Paul posted of Pedro WAYYYYY up high on this thread “9/15/07” is a reminder that a little bit of black, used with restraint, can make something like lettering or numbers really pop.

    Say what you will, but that Mets home ensemble is one fine-looking, classy set of threads. As LI Phil mentioned the other day, Mets should never, EVER wear black hats, sleeves and socks with that one.

    Period.

  • Tim Z. | June 4, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    Pedro got two hits wearing David Wright’s batting gloves. Here’s a picture for comparison.

  • ryan c #40 | June 4, 2008 at 4:00 pm |

    “I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c
    I don’t hate purple…and I LOVE THOSE JERSEYS! WOW!
    I do especially LOVE that black based jersey..OOOOWEE! Those would be the most “flavorful” uniforms in the NHL.
    Personally i hate the black based ones, it looks like a late 1990’s IHL sweater. I do like the gold purple though. Replace the “Los Angeles” at the bottom with a hem stripe and then you have a winner. ”

    saw that out on http://www.nhllogos.... this morning… really sharp jerseys! plus it matches the lakers a little. maybe a little city-sports identity

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 4:09 pm |

    also speaking of the Mets…

    Sure fun here watching Carlos Gomez and wondering just how high his upside really might be.

    Damn, that kid is fast. If Twins can get him to work more walks…yikes.

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”274142″][quote comment=”274140″][quote comment=”274139″][quote comment=”274133″][quote comment=”274126″]How are these as shades of purple?

    http://www.aubreyflo...

    now that’s a lavender i could get into[/quote]

    Wow, she looks waaaay to much like the Joker for me.

    http://blogs.telecin...

    i guess you’re off matt’s buddy list then[/quote]

    lol, well I was refering more to the color choice and red lipstick, but I guess in hindsight comparing a woman to Jack Nicholson probably isn’t very nice.[/quote]

    WOW!!!That Hurts, Ducks!!!

    The house in the second pic will now be referred to as “The Fortress of Solitude”!

    Anyway…Good work with the column, Paul!

    And Phil, with that “getting into Lavender” comment, you’re teetering on the brink of being outside of “the circle of trust”.

    http://nelswadycki.f...

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    ricko

    believe me…i am far from the only mets fan who feels the black caps (or black & blues) should NEVER be worn with the pins…or ever for that matter, but especially the stripes

    and as far as senor gomez and the rest you got for johan…as i told minna h way back when we consumated the trade…give this one 3-4 years to see who fleeced whom…i don’t think it’s nearly as one-sided as twinkie fans were led to believe

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    re: City sports identity. I always kinda liked that the Steelers, Pirates and Penguins used black and gold (remember that great SI cover of Bradshaw and Stargell?). Also like the royal blue common to Mets, Knicks, Rangers, Giants and, at one time, Islanders and Nets.

    Pittsburgh is really just about the only town with kind of thing, isn’t it.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”274151″]ricko

    believe me…i am far from the only mets fan who feels the black caps (or black & blues) should NEVER be worn with the pins…or ever for that matter, but especially the stripes

    and as far as senor gomez and the rest you got for johan…as i told minna h way back when we consumated the trade…give this one 3-4 years to see who fleeced whom…i don’t think it’s nearly as one-sided as twinkie fans were led to believe[/quote]

    That was my point. I’m sure you’d like to still have the kid, but it’s working out pretty well for both sides so far. Santana IS, what, 7-3?

    I was kinda hoping to see Jacoby Ellsbury with Twins, but not now. Every once in awhile there’s one of those trades that really does “work out well for both teams.” This could well be one of them.

  • Walaitis | June 4, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”274152″]re: City sports identity. I always kinda liked that the Steelers, Pirates and Penguins used black and gold (remember that great SI cover of Bradshaw and Stargell?). Also like the royal blue common to Mets, Knicks, Rangers, Giants and, at one time, Islanders and Nets.

    Pittsburgh is really just about the only town with kind of thing, isn’t it.[/quote]

    Does New Jersey qualify for the “_et” factor? (Nets, Jets, pseudo-Mets)?

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”274154″][quote comment=”274152″]re: City sports identity. I always kinda liked that the Steelers, Pirates and Penguins used black and gold (remember that great SI cover of Bradshaw and Stargell?). Also like the royal blue common to Mets, Knicks, Rangers, Giants and, at one time, Islanders and Nets.

    Pittsburgh is really just about the only town with kind of thing, isn’t it.[/quote]

    Does New Jersey qualify for the “_et” factor? (Nets, Jets, pseudo-Mets)?[/quote]

    long island would

    we also had the “sets” (remember ‘professional tennis’ leagues???)…i think they became the apples and moved to the garden before the league disbanded

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”274150″]And Phil, with that “getting into Lavender” comment, you’re teetering on the brink of being outside of “the circle of trust”.

    http://nelswadycki.f...

    oh, that’s great…yeah…i was scared of you back when i thought you were a florist…it’s wonderful to know that i’ve actually got a UW spy-hunter on my ass

  • Marty Met | June 4, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”274155″][quote comment=”274154″][quote comment=”274152″]re: City sports identity. I always kinda liked that the Steelers, Pirates and Penguins used black and gold (remember that great SI cover of Bradshaw and Stargell?). Also like the royal blue common to Mets, Knicks, Rangers, Giants and, at one time, Islanders and Nets.

    Pittsburgh is really just about the only town with kind of thing, isn’t it.[/quote]

    Does New Jersey qualify for the “_et” factor? (Nets, Jets, pseudo-Mets)?[/quote]

    long island would

    we also had the “sets” (remember ‘professional tennis’ leagues???)…i think they became the apples and moved to the garden before the league disbanded[/quote]

    Why Long Island, dude???? The Nets play and train in NJ and will never move to Brooklyn. They will probably end up in the Prudential Center in 2010 or 2011. The Jets now train in Florham Park NJ and play their home games in Jersey also. The Mets are the only one of the teams based in New York and they’re in Queens not Long Island.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 5:15 pm |

    Ah, yes, the Sets, owned by Jerry Saperstein. My favorite recollection about that first World Team Tennis league was the Cleveland owner whose Name the Team Contest used an alleged 25,000 entries to come up with…”Sets”.

    Huh?

    Either he was lying or the people of Cleveland have no imagination whatsoever. Hmmmm, based on the guy, I’ll say “A”. But, then again…

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    Oops…Cleveland “NETS”

  • chance | June 4, 2008 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”274157″]The Mets are the only one of the teams based in New York and they’re in Queens not Long Island.[/quote]

    Queens County is part of Long Island. So is Kings County.

  • LI Phil | June 4, 2008 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”274157″][quote comment=”274155″][quote comment=”274154″][quote comment=”274152″]re: City sports identity. I always kinda liked that the Steelers, Pirates and Penguins used black and gold (remember that great SI cover of Bradshaw and Stargell?). Also like the royal blue common to Mets, Knicks, Rangers, Giants and, at one time, Islanders and Nets.

    Pittsburgh is really just about the only town with kind of thing, isn’t it.[/quote]

    Does New Jersey qualify for the “_et” factor? (Nets, Jets, pseudo-Mets)?[/quote]

    long island would

    we also had the “sets” (remember ‘professional tennis’ leagues???)…i think they became the apples and moved to the garden before the league disbanded[/quote]

    Why Long Island, dude???? The Nets play and train in NJ and will never move to Brooklyn. They will probably end up in the Prudential Center in 2010 or 2011. The Jets now train in Florham Park NJ and play their home games in Jersey also. The Mets are the only one of the teams based in New York and they’re in Queens not Long Island.[/quote]

    long island geographically incorporates the counties of queens and brooklyn…they may happen to be in the “city” of new york, but they are still ON long island

    the nets began play ON long island, although the jets (nee titans) and mets both began play in the polo grounds, not moving to LI until shea was constructed…but the jets became the jets when they moved to LI, and the nets began on LI

    joisey can have the jets and the nets…but you can’t deny from whence they originated

  • MPowers1634 | June 4, 2008 at 5:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”274156″][quote comment=”274150″]And Phil, with that “getting into Lavender” comment, you’re teetering on the brink of being outside of “the circle of trust”.

    http://nelswadycki.f...

    oh, that’s great…yeah…i was scared of you back when i thought you were a florist…it’s wonderful to know that i’ve actually got a UW spy-hunter on my ass[/quote]

    Very good, Phil!

    Have fun, friends! I’m off to Football Officiating Certification Class. Many uni-centric
    items on the docket for this evening, including visors, logo placement and accessories!

  • The Birdman | June 4, 2008 at 5:44 pm |

    I’m still waiting for you to evaluate Jay Bruce and his uniform style of socks high. I like it, kind of a throwback feel to the knee high socks which Chipper Jones used to wear all the time.

    Now Bruce is getting so popular in Cincinnati he even has his own shirt(Bruce Almighty) but we still can’t get a jersey.

    When is MLB going to start promoting their young, up and coming players who don’t play in the New York or Boston area?

    I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

    Here is the Jay Bruce shirt…
    http://sportscrack.c...

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 5:54 pm |

    There are young, up and coming players who don’t play in the New York or Boston area?!?!

    Do MLB and, like, ESPN know about this????

    I mean, that could be really intesting news to the rest of the country. Oh, that’s right, I forgot, there IS no rest of the country.

  • Teebz | June 4, 2008 at 5:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”274148″]”I know most of you people hate purple but look at these L.A. Kings concept jerseys. Instant classic somes to my mind when i look at them. Especially that white and black one. Man i wish i was in charge of their uniforms, i would get these in a heart beat.
    http://bp1.blogger.c
    I don’t hate purple…and I LOVE THOSE JERSEYS! WOW!
    I do especially LOVE that black based jersey..OOOOWEE! Those would be the most “flavorful” uniforms in the NHL.
    Personally i hate the black based ones, it looks like a late 1990’s IHL sweater. I do like the gold purple though. Replace the “Los Angeles” at the bottom with a hem stripe and then you have a winner. ”

    saw that out on http://www.nhllogos.... this morning… really sharp jerseys! plus it matches the lakers a little. maybe a little city-sports identity[/quote]

    The reason that the Kings and Lakers were yellow and purple before was because both teams were owned by the same guy – Jack Kent Cooke.

    However, when Bruce McNall bought the Kings from Jerry Buss, he changed their jersey colours to the silver-and-black of the Gretzky era shortly before acquiring The Great One.

    I think it would be nice to see cities align their sports teams in the same colours, but this will never happen in this day and age with all the teams out there.

  • Ricko | June 4, 2008 at 5:59 pm |

    Cooke owned the Forum, too. And that purple the Lakers and Kings wore? For a year, he actually tried to call it “Forum Blue.”

    No kidding. Dig out some old media guides and you’ll see.

  • Marty Met | June 4, 2008 at 7:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”274161″][quote comment=”274157″][quote comment=”274155″][quote comment=”274154″][quote comment=”274152″]re: City sports identity. I always kinda liked that the Steelers, Pirates and Penguins used black and gold (remember that great SI cover of Bradshaw and Stargell?). Also like the royal blue common to Mets, Knicks, Rangers, Giants and, at one time, Islanders and Nets.

    Pittsburgh is really just about the only town with kind of thing, isn’t it.[/quote]

    Does New Jersey qualify for the “_et” factor? (Nets, Jets, pseudo-Mets)?[/quote]

    long island would

    we also had the “sets” (remember ‘professional tennis’ leagues???)…i think they became the apples and moved to the garden before the league disbanded[/quote]

    Why Long Island, dude???? The Nets play and train in NJ and will never move to Brooklyn. They will probably end up in the Prudential Center in 2010 or 2011. The Jets now train in Florham Park NJ and play their home games in Jersey also. The Mets are the only one of the teams based in New York and they’re in Queens not Long Island.[/quote]

    long island geographically incorporates the counties of queens and brooklyn…they may happen to be in the “city” of new york, but they are still ON long island

    the nets began play ON long island, although the jets (nee titans) and mets both began play in the polo grounds, not moving to LI until shea was constructed…but the jets became the jets when they moved to LI, and the nets began on LI

    joisey can have the jets and the nets…but you can’t deny from whence they originated[/quote]

    The Nets began play in Teaneck in 1967. And Long Island is ONLY Nassau and Suffolk counties.

  • Sam | June 4, 2008 at 9:12 pm |

    A’s are wore green during a home game for the first time this season I believe.

    They had been wearing black at home and green on the road for alternates this season, but switched it up

  • Johnny O | June 4, 2008 at 9:16 pm |

    I don;t think has been mentioned, but I have noticed a weird uni trend with my Brew Crew the last few nights. Since the Crew are playing some hot baseball right now, maybe this trend is a superstition. But, I have noticed that as soon as the last out is recorded, the players on the field immediately un-tuck their jerseys. I mean, it is instant. When they show the fielders giving high fives they are already un-tucked. Any one notice this trend?

    I will try to link a page to what I am explaining. This photo was taken a few nights ago.

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • BA | June 4, 2008 at 9:38 pm |

    I think this is an appropriate supplement to Paul’s ESPN article today…

    http://cache.deadspi...

  • Jon Horton | June 4, 2008 at 10:26 pm |

    WHY are the Penguins doing a White Out and wearing their Black jerseys? I know that color is the home in the NHL, but wouldn’t it make sense to do a Black out?

  • Greg V. | June 4, 2008 at 11:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”274163″]I’m still waiting for you to evaluate Jay Bruce and his uniform style of socks high. I like it, kind of a throwback feel to the knee high socks which Chipper Jones used to wear all the time.

    Now Bruce is getting so popular in Cincinnati he even has his own shirt(Bruce Almighty) but we still can’t get a jersey.

    When is MLB going to start promoting their young, up and coming players who don’t play in the New York or Boston area?

    I would be interested to hear your thoughts.

    Here is the Jay Bruce shirt…
    http://sportscrack.c...

    Jay Bruce doesn’t wear s socks high. He did in the minors, but since coming up he has been going with long pants.

    As for the merchandise and jerseys, he has been here 8 days. Give it time. They are probably working out something right now. I would imagine there are legal and financial hoops to jump through.

    And the Bruce Almighty shirt is terrible. Between that and everyone calling him The Savior and The One, could we put any more pressure on him? He is 21 years old. We should let his legacy develop on its own without stupid media-driven nicknames.

  • Sammy | June 4, 2008 at 11:21 pm |

    In the midst of the Stanley Cup celebration…CBC goes Uni Watching. The Canadian announcers, while the Red Wings were lining up to take the championship picture, said that the Wings uniforms “haven’t changed since they entered the league.” Of course, they have changed significantly, as we know, but I can agree with the second part: “Perfect.”

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | June 4, 2008 at 11:55 pm |

    We haven’t talked about it for a while now but there’s been a left-handed catcher sighting. However, he’s not in the pros. It’s Adam Bender, an eight year old who lost his left leg to cancer. Now, playing catcher with one leg is remarkable but so is the fact that he’s left handed. Now, I don’t know if he’s wearing an outfielder’s glove because eight year olds don’t throw very fast yet or if he can’t find a left-handed catcher’s mitt.

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • Kek | June 5, 2008 at 12:18 am |

    [quote comment=”274144″]”does the “P” in the iron pigs jersey look just A LITTLE familiar??? kek, wanna answer this one???
    http://ironpigsbaseb
    p.s.
    where are you watching the pens game tonight kek???
    Yes, it does look like a familiar font: http://shop.mlb.com/
    As for Game 6, I’m watching it from the best place there could be: Section 32, Row F Seat 11, with my beautiful wife in Seat 12!!!!!”

    AWESOME!!! ENJOY!!! i’ll be watching it from my couch (with a beautiful girl that cares not too much for hockey. LOL!!!).

    HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME TONIGHT!!![/quote]
    Well, I’m back home. Didn’t get the result that we wanted but had a great time nonetheless. The better team won. Someday we’ll be able to look back and saw we say the Conn Smythe and Stanley Cup awarded in person.

  • James Craven | June 5, 2008 at 1:41 am |

    Lemme help ya out ther4e…

    http://ironpigsbaseb...

    There ya go.

  • BA | June 5, 2008 at 2:05 am |

    I am not sure if this has been covered, (I cant get to the site from work anymore and I don’t have a chance to keep up as much as I would like…) but this is a pretty cool thing.

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • Scott | June 5, 2008 at 5:52 am |

    Anybody catch the Sox-Rays game last night? The ESPN booth guys said Aki Iwamura’s glove is made of alligator skin. Anybody seen pics of this?

  • Jim | June 5, 2008 at 8:01 am |

    [quote comment=”274171″]WHY are the Penguins doing a White Out and wearing their Black jerseys? I know that color is the home in the NHL, but wouldn’t it make sense to do a Black out?[/quote]

    As I agree it’s silly to have a white out while the ROAD team wears white, a ‘black out’ would make the stands look empty. PIT should have worn yellow instead of white.

  • Joey Guns | June 5, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”274181″]Anybody catch the Sox-Rays game last night? The ESPN booth guys said Aki Iwamura’s glove is made of alligator skin. Anybody seen pics of this?[/quote]

    I mentioned on here the other day that this year he had the glove made out of fake alligator, where as in the past, it was real alligator….