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Shell-Shocked

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An early Uni Watch moment for me came in 1975 or so, when I was watching an NBC Saturday Game of the Week broadcast. Red Sox backup catcher Bob Montgomery was hitting, and one of the announcers (probably Joe Garagiola, but I don’t recall) mentioned that Monty was the last remaining player not to wear a batting helmet. Instead, he wore a plastic insert under his cap, as was his grandfather-claused right as a player already in the bigs when batting helmets became mandatory in 1971.

Montgomery, who retired after the ’79 season, has since become famous (well, at least on this site) as the last non-helmeted hitter. Two related issues have always bugged me, though: First, were there any other grandfathered players who wore the insert in the early 1970s? And more to the point, just what did these inserts look like? I’d never seen one.

Thanks to reader Brandon Davis, we now have our answer to the second question. He found this eBay auction for an insert that was purportedly used by the Cleveland Indians. As you can see, it’s open on top, which surprised me a little — flimsy protection is one thing, but flimsy partial protection is pushing it.

Not sure what’s up with that tape-wrapped section. Was it meant to repair a break in the front-top section, or was that section supposed to be broken/unattached/etc., to make the insert adjustable and one-size-fits-all? An inside view is inconclusive. Anyone know more about these doohickeys?

Inserts are apparently still in use, or they were until very recently. Last November, when MLB announced that base coaches would have to wear helmets in 2008, Larry Bowa said, “I prefer to wear an insert.” According to this story, Bowa “wore a cap lined on the inside with thin plastic” for the Dodgers’ spring training opener back in February. So does Bowa have his own personal insert that he takes with him from team to team? Or is someone still making these things?

Uni Watch News Ticker: Good game-used jersey site here (with thanks to Mike Verna). … Yowza! … Big Brown jockey Kent Desormeaux wore a Mets jersey — complete with NOB — to throw out the first pitch at Shea Stadium on Sunday night. The uni number matched the number he wore in the Kentucky Derby. … Amusing collection of Oriole Bird mascot video footage here (with thanks to Bryan Long). … Bizarre eBay find here (big thanks to our own Scott M.X. Turner). … Did you know that the player sliding into home plate on this baseball card is actually Willie Mays, not Hank Aaron? I didn’t, until James Yeh pointed me toward this really good rundown of error-laden baseball cards. … “The University of New Orleans baseball team had an interesting uniform this weekend in their Baton Rouge regional,” writes Chad Thompson. “On Friday night, their jerseys said ‘N’awlins,’ and then on Saturday they wore ‘NOLA,’ and on Sunday it was ‘Privateers.’ ” … “Thought you might be interested in these throwback uniforms worn last Saturday by the Yuba-Sutter Gold Sox in Marysville, California,” writes John Saiz. “They’re modeled after the Hub City (also Yuba-Sutter) Merchants, who were the first baseball club to travel by airplane. Of added interest, they were playing the Redding Colt .45’s, who were wearing their home whites (the Gold Sox play only two of their 46 games on the road, so they switch between their whites, grays, and BP jerseys every homestand).” … It’s horribly written, and even more horribly narrated, but this video critique of softball uniforms is largely on the money (with thanks to Randy Swanson). … Decent story here about NHL playoff beards (with thanks to Alan Kreit). … Someone has decided that Alfonso Soriano has MLB’s tightest pants (courtesy of Kevin Walsh). … Creative NOB use here (with thanks to Doug Keklak). … RIP, Bo.

 

147 comments to Shell-Shocked

  • Leo | June 3, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    Look what the was-special-but-not-so-special-because-the-whole-team-is-special-one got as a present yesterday.

    http://news.bbc.co.u...

    He really looks thrilled to be holding that jersey too.

  • Ricko | June 3, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    Ernie Banks wore one of those liners, but offhand can’t remember how long he continued into the 70s before retiring (and don’t have time to check it now; pesky things like work keep interferring with the fun stuff).

  • Ricko | June 3, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    Love those Hub City unis. Nice and cool on a hot day, I’ll bet. The last year I played hardball (35 and over league) we had navy jerseys, and several games that summer were played when was over 100F. Man, they were hot. Nontheless, the Hub City Merchants are fantastic. I can even tolerate the gold socks. LOL

  • derek | June 3, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    fake penguings jerseys, must of sucked to buy one.
    http://www.pittsburg...

  • scott | June 3, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    Don’t remember if the Yuma Scorpions of the Golden Baseball League wearing El Centro Imperials throwbacks was mentioned:

    http://www.yumasun.c...

  • derek | June 3, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    wow looking at those wrigley field pictures made me realize what a dump that place is. I mean come on, we are in 2008. No wonder they never win…

  • JK | June 3, 2008 at 9:13 am |

    New Celtic FC Away Kit story here….
    http://www.celticfc....

  • Tony In Erie | June 3, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    nice little writeup here on the batting helmet

    could be a good jumping off point for more research on the plastic insert mystery

  • Broadway Connie | June 3, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”273876″]Love those Hub City unis. … I can even tolerate the gold socks. LOL[/quote]

    They are fabulous, for sure. Love the Cub Scout-style piping on the caps. As for the stockings, I like ’em a lot so long as everything else is Navy Blue.

    By the way, has anyone here seen unis based on whatever they wore over at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken?

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    http://www.theloveof...

    In the write-up, they mention that people were at first confused that Favre was wearing a Falcons jersey, the team, he was in fact, drafted by.

    However, that is really Favre in his University of Southere Mississippi uniform!

  • Stephen | June 3, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    Lots of comments yesterday about the new Gwinnett Braves logo, but most of them were on the new cap design. According to the story here, the home jersey will look like this.

    I gotta say, I love the Braves, and I really dig the new G-Braves road cap, but if this really is the home jersey, I am extremely dissapointed. It looks like a softball jersey, or a little league shirt, or something.

    ~E~

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game

  • Kek | June 3, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    Paul, that photo of the Osgood jersey is actually from Game 4 which was in Pittsburgh. My bad for not including that when I submitted it to you.

  • brian | June 3, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    Paul, speaking of Big Brown, the Belmont will be a Uni-Watch event because Brown’s jockey is planning to wear a Nassau County Police Dept. patch on his uniform to honor a recently injured Nassau cop. Here are some details…. Class act.

    http://www.newsday.c...

  • Robert | June 3, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    Whoever wrote about Soriano’s tight pants is certainly correct. Wearing them in such a manner makes him look like a goober, and undoes the good that comes from hiking up his pants to show off his socks.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | June 3, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”273880″]wow looking at those wrigley field pictures made me realize what a dump that place is. I mean come on, we are in 2008. No wonder they never win…[/quote]

    Either you forgot your sarcasm tag or you haven’t looked at the standings lately.

  • rob | June 3, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    well i certainly wasted a bunch of time on that game-worn jersey site…there’s some quality minor-league baseball jerseys there

  • Joey Guns | June 3, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    Check out this awful sight. A guy in a WNBA jersey. Does it get any worse than that?

    http://straightcashh...

  • Cathy | June 3, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”273890″]Whoever wrote about Soriano’s tight pants is certainly correct. Wearing them in such a manner makes him look like a goober, and undoes the good that comes from hiking up his pants to show off his socks.[/quote]

    And to make it worse, Soriano has taken young Felix Pie under his wing and…he unfortunately follows suit http://www.autograph... . They should follow center fielder Reid Johnson’s stylings http://media.wsbt.co... .

  • Mike | June 3, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

  • Josh Petty | June 3, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”273880″]wow looking at those wrigley field pictures made me realize what a dump that place is. I mean come on, we are in 2008. No wonder they never win…[/quote]

    What is is lacking with modern features, it more than makes up for it with a great baseball atmosphere. I’ve been to several new parks in recent years, but I’ve never had a better time than I have when I go to Wrigley. I’m going twice in the next 2 weeks, so I’m extremely happy there. I just wish I lived somewhere in the vicinity of Fenway, that’s one place I really want to visit.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”273893″]Check out this awful sight.

    A guy in a WNBA jersey.

    Does it get any worse than that?

    http://straightcashh...

    yes

    JUUUUSSSSSTTTT kidding there paul ;)

  • Saru | June 3, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    If you wear an insert do you have to have keep another size cap (“batting cap”?) around? I can’t imagine those fitting under your regular hat.

  • dilbert719 | June 3, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    “Last November, when MLB announced that bases would have to wear helmets in 2008”

    Paul, you might want to correct this line. Bases can’t wear helmets.

  • Joey Guns | June 3, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    Woman in her mugshot in a Tampa Bay Storm AFL jersey:

    http://www.thesmokin...

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”273898″][quote comment=”273893″]Check out this awful sight.

    A guy in a WNBA jersey.

    Does it get any worse than that?

    http://straightcashh...

    yes

    JUUUUSSSSSTTTT kidding there paul ;)[/quote]

    Is Paul gonna pop for some Kiwi Neutral before the big night in Camden? I know, I know, he’s not “Chuckie Margolis Who Lives In The Basement.” He’s not gonna wear his cleats (soccer or otherwise) that night. Just gotta heckle our flounder once in a while.

    Besides, there’s nothing like a good running gag.

    “And this is nothing like a good running gag.”
    (ba dum bum)

  • Kevin M. | June 3, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”273901″]Woman in her mugshot in a Tampa Bay Storm AFL jersey:

    http://www.thesmokin...

    Thats just a shirt. Their jeresys are navy blue and white (I could be wrong on this one but I am pretty sure they are white).

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”273893″]Check out this awful sight.

    A guy in a WNBA jersey.

    Does it get any worse than that?

    http://straightcashh...

    Yes, a guy in WNBA shorts.

    (another ba dum bum)
    Okay, I’m outta control. Back to work.

  • ToasterPoodle | June 3, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    Anyone get a shot of Gary Majewski’s stirrups last night. He’s shown socks in the past, but I don’t recall seeing the stirrups. Clearly they are working, because he entered the game with the bases loaded, and coaxed out a double-play with his first pitch.

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    One more thing. In all that loving of those old Browns unis here yesterday, howcum no one pointed out the hats were wrong?

    Or was it just so obvious we didnt’ bother?

  • Gazzoo | June 3, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    Norm Cash was grandfathered into the ’70s wearing the lining…I watched Ernie Banks most of his career and can guarantee he wore a regular batting helmet at least from the mid-60s on.

  • John T | June 3, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

  • Scott | June 3, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    That softball shorts video story narrator? Written by the same woman that caused OK ST football coach Mike Gundy to have the meltdown.

    She isn’t having a good year…

  • ScottS | June 3, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    Say, aren’t those Husky socks a certain color which shall remain nameless?

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”273907″]Norm Cash was grandfathered into the ’70s wearing the lining…I watched Ernie Banks most of his career and can guarantee he wore a regular batting helmet at least from the mid-60s on.[/quote]

    You’re probably right, I just remember Banks in that liner for so very long. But, by 1969 was in Army and there was gap there when I didn’t watch as much baseball or buy as many mags.

  • Leo | June 3, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”273881″]New Celtic FC Away Kit story here….
    http://www.celticfc....

    That’s exactly how a Celtic away kit should look!

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    re: Softball shorts. Only time I wear ’em is if it’s really hot and in a tournament, largely cuz most softball fields have benches instead of dugouts and you just NEVER get any shade during the game…or worse, during a long string of games. Wear a pad on left knee cuz it takes some punishment when I slide, more so of course in shorts.

  • Anthony Verna | June 3, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”273881″]New Celtic FC Away Kit story here….
    http://www.celticfc....

    I hate the 100% polyester jerseys. I can’t wear them unless I have a cotton shirt on underneath.

  • mmwatkin | June 3, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    Those “N’awlins” jerseys are a thing of beauty!

    No 21st century graphics, no overdone piping everywhere, no black accents thrown in for no reason.

    If I played for that team I would lobby to wear it every home game.

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”273914″][quote comment=”273881″]New Celtic FC Away Kit story here….
    http://www.celticfc....

    I hate the 100% polyester jerseys. I can’t wear them unless I have a cotton shirt on underneath.[/quote]

    Know exactly what you mean. Thank god for shirt that wick the sweat away. They’re a godsend.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”273901″]Woman in her mugshot in a Tampa Bay Storm AFL jersey:

    http://www.thesmokin...

    That must be the most enthusiastic “Mug Shot” I’ve ever seen!

    As for the Lisa Leslie fan, I saw that yesterday and I’m still chuckling about it.

    You guys are right though…Imagine going down to the park to play some pick-up and there’s a DUDE wearing a pair of Liberty shorts.

    Besides the fact that only we UWers, or 10 year old girls, would realize what they were, that would be ridiculous!

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.

  • Joey Guns | June 3, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    The Orioles are still doing the turned up cap look:

    http://baltimore.ori...

  • Joey Guns | June 3, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”273917″][quote comment=”273901″]Woman in her mugshot in a Tampa Bay Storm AFL jersey:

    http://www.thesmokin...

    That must be the most enthusiastic “Mug Shot” I’ve ever seen!

    As for the Lisa Leslie fan, I saw that yesterday and I’m still chuckling about it.

    You guys are right though…Imagine going down to the park to play some pick-up and there’s a DUDE wearing a pair of Liberty shorts.

    Besides the fact that only we UWers, or 10 year old girls, would realize what they were, that would be ridiculous![/quote]

    Paul would’ve cringed if he saw what I saw this weekend. This guy at the Orioles/Red Sox game that I went to had white socks with the purple Ravens logo on it, and he had these sneakers on:

    http://sneakers.pair...

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”273919″]The Orioles are still doing the turned up cap look:

    http://baltimore.ori...

    “The Bowery Boys Go To Baltimore”

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=\”273920\”][quote comment=\”273917\”][quote comment=\”273901\”]Woman in her mugshot in a Tampa Bay Storm AFL jersey:

    http://www.thesmokin... would\’ve cringed if he saw what I saw this weekend.

    This guy at the Orioles/Red Sox game that I went to had white socks with the purple Ravens logo on it, and he had these sneakers on:

    http://sneakers.pair...

    Two things some people shouldn’t be allowed to do:
    1) dress themselves
    2) breed

  • Dave in VA | June 3, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    I remember Tony Taylor, who finished up his career playing for the Phillies in the mid-70’s, as batting without a helmet.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”273917″]You guys are right though…Imagine going down to the park to play some pick-up and there’s a DUDE wearing a pair of Liberty shorts.[/quote]

    or a pair of DICKS shorts

  • Wade Harder | June 3, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”273918″][quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.[/quote]

    Of course, this is a little bit older, but here is my vote:
    http://www.post-gaze...
    I can’t take credit, though. Paul ran this last September.

  • HockeyDude | June 3, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    Red Wings vs. Penguins:

    Between the first and second OT period Pierre McGuire made this astute observation: “The temperature down here at ice -level is getting so hot, many of the players have changed their sweaters.”

    So much for the “keep dry” fabric technology of the RBK Edge system.

  • Shaftman | June 3, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”273918″][quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.[/quote]

    Does this work better for you?

  • caknuck | June 3, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    I’m surprised the Mets didn’t make Kent Desormeaux wear a batboy’s jersey. It’d probably fit (if not too big), plus they could claim the “BB” on back (I’m not sure if the Mets are of the number, “BB” or blank jersey back school) stands for “Big Brown”.

  • Walaitis | June 3, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”273927″][quote comment=”273918″][quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.[/quote]

    Does this work better for you?[/quote]

    If you can do that to the ad, you can SURELY fix his pants and lack of stirrups, can’t you? (not at my “photoshop-equipped” home computer)

  • Ryan B. | June 3, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”273926″]Red Wings vs. Penguins:

    Between the first and second OT period Pierre McGuire made this astute observation: “The temperature down here at ice -level is getting so hot, many of the players have changed their sweaters.”

    So much for the “keep dry” fabric technology of the RBK Edge system.[/quote]

    What I thought was interesting was how the new, dry sweaters looked very much like a different shade of red than the pants–for obvious sweat-related reasons.

    It looked odd seeing Red Wings with “dark red” sweaters skating with players in a lighter shade of red, the difference being between those who changed sweaters and those who didn’t.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | June 3, 2008 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”273927″][quote comment=”273918″][quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.[/quote]

    Does this work better for you?[/quote]

    Brilliant!!

  • Like the River | June 3, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    The lady friend came to the house in these yesterday
    http://www.cleveland...
    afreakingmazing

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”273931″][quote comment=”273927″][quote comment=”273918″][quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.[/quote]

    Does this work better for you?[/quote]

    Brilliant!![/quote]

    What happened to loving all the billboarded outfield walls in ballparks like Ebbets Field, etc.? Where did the hatred of all those sterile 70s “stadia” go? Everything gets updated, sometimes garishly, but do we hate electronics so much we’d prefer plain, solid color vinyl padded walls from foul pole to foul pole?

    Yuck on that.

  • Shaftman | June 3, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”273929″][quote comment=”273927″][quote comment=”273918″][quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.[/quote]

    Does this work better for you?[/quote]

    If you can do that to the ad, you can SURELY fix his pants and lack of stirrups, can’t you? (not at my “photoshop-equipped” home computer)[/quote]

    I probably could but I did that with MS Paint which is the equivalent of swimming across the Atlantic Ocean. I could do it, but I’d rather fly (or use photo shop).

  • Shaftman | June 3, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    I probably could but I did that with MS Paint which is the equivalent of swimming across the Atlantic Ocean. I could do it, but I’d rather fly (or use photo shop).

  • Shaftman | June 3, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”273933″][quote comment=”273931″][quote comment=”273927″][quote comment=”273918″][quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.[/quote]

    Does this work better for you?[/quote]

    Brilliant!![/quote]

    What happened to loving all the billboarded outfield walls in ballparks like Ebbets Field, etc.? Where did the hatred of all those sterile 70s “stadia” go? Everything gets updated, sometimes garishly, but do we hate electronics so much we’d prefer plain, solid color vinyl padded walls from foul pole to foul pole?

    Yuck on that.[/quote]

    I’m no “hater”. I just gave the people what they wanted. Some of my earliest baseball memories are reading about the Abe Stark “Hit Sign, Win Suit” ad at Ebbets.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote]What happened to loving all the billboarded outfield walls in ballparks like Ebbets Field, etc.? Where did the hatred of all those sterile 70s “stadia” go? Everything gets updated, sometimes garishly, but do we hate electronics so much we’d prefer plain, solid color vinyl padded walls from foul pole to foul pole?

    Yuck on that[/quote]

    so…i was watching the sunday night game (mets v. dodgers) and i called up the old man and we were talking…and of course, the goregous new cathedral that will be citifield is in all the outfield shots…and we were talkin about if the mets are bringing the stupid apple with them to the new park or putting in some new even more garish thing…and i got to thinkin…

    how sweet would it be if they put the old “abe stark hit sign win suit” advert in the new citi???

    that brought a chuckle and a smile (im guessing) to my old man, who of course has many fond memories of ebbets…

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    jay…were you and me like separated at birth?

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    “Hit sign. Win suit. Armani.”

    Actually a fun update. Very New York. And today’s players would appreciate it, too.

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    Place where I work is pondering/negoiating a deal with Twins new stadium re: outfied sign/”hit me” sorta thing. I will keep you posted. If I know something definite before it becomes public, I’ll post it here.

    Honest, it’ll be here before it’s anywhere else…if I can make it so.

  • Walaitis | June 3, 2008 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”273937″][quote]What happened to loving all the billboarded outfield walls in ballparks like Ebbets Field, etc.? Where did the hatred of all those sterile 70s “stadia” go? Everything gets updated, sometimes garishly, but do we hate electronics so much we’d prefer plain, solid color vinyl padded walls from foul pole to foul pole?

    Yuck on that[/quote]

    so…i was watching the sunday night game (mets v. dodgers) and i called up the old man and we were talking…and of course, the goregous new cathedral that will be citifield is in all the outfield shots…and we were talkin about if the mets are bringing the stupid apple with them to the new park or putting in some new even more garish thing…and i got to thinkin…

    how sweet would it be if they put the old “abe stark hit sign win suit” advert in the new citi???

    that brought a chuckle and a smile (im guessing) to my old man, who of course has many fond memories of ebbets…[/quote]

    I just wish there were at least one good old ballpark, with simple ivy covered brick walls.

    Yeah. That’d be nice.

    #$#@$@^%^%$ equipment apparel door sign company whose products I will never buy.

  • chance | June 3, 2008 at 12:19 pm |

    Love the Armini suit sign. Somebody’s got to do that.

    [quote comment=”273937″]and we were talkin about if the mets are bringing the stupid apple with them to the new park or putting in some new even more garish thing…and i got to thinkin…
    [/quote]

    Just in case you really wanted to know – yes, they are.

    It’s been in the plans since the very beginning, and you can see the circular concrete base in this contstruction photo.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”273942″][quote comment=”273937″]and we were talkin about if the mets are bringing the stupid apple with them to the new park or putting in some new even more garish thing…and i got to thinkin…
    [/quote]

    Just in case you really wanted to know – yes, they are.

    It’s been in the plans since the very beginning, and you can see the circular concrete base in this contstruction photo.[/quote]

    thanks, chance

    yeah…i knew either the apple or some more rakish replica was going in there…sigh

  • Shaftman | June 3, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”273938″]jay…were you and me like separated at birth?[/quote]

    I always wondered why I had that scar on my butt :)

  • Walaitis | June 3, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”273943″][quote comment=”273942″][quote comment=”273937″]and we were talkin about if the mets are bringing the stupid apple with them to the new park or putting in some new even more garish thing…and i got to thinkin…
    [/quote]

    Just in case you really wanted to know – yes, they are.

    It’s been in the plans since the very beginning, and you can see the circular concrete base in this contstruction photo.[/quote]

    thanks, chance

    yeah…i knew either the apple or some more rakish replica was going in there…sigh[/quote]

    Two notes of interest … the apple has been moved (now “in” the hitter’s backgroud, creating a higher fence in dead center) from it’s original position, according to the computer graphic (where it was located above the hitter’s background).

    Also, I don’t know that I’ve seen computerized depictions of any other stadia where advertising signage was already part of the park. On one hand, it’s sad, but on the other hand, at least it doesn’t misrepresent a “clean” new park, when the reality ends up looking like the back of a 1984 Chevette held together by nothing but bumperstickers.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”273934″][quote comment=”273929″][quote comment=”273927″][quote comment=”273918″][quote comment=”273908″][quote comment=”273895″][quote comment=”273887″][quote comment=”273882″]Isn’t this a great baseball picture? I know, sounds lame, but I saw this and immediately thought, “classic.”

    http://sports.espn.g...

    I would rate it higher if it:
    1. Included him totally stretched out:full body
    2. No electronic screen behind him
    3. If it were a day game[/quote]

    How about more like this?

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I vote for this:
    http://www.nytimes.c...

    IMO, the size of the ad on the wall takes away from the beautiful pic of that tremendous catch.[/quote]

    Does this work better for you?[/quote]

    If you can do that to the ad, you can SURELY fix his pants and lack of stirrups, can’t you? (not at my “photoshop-equipped” home computer)[/quote]

    I probably could but I did that with MS Paint which is the equivalent of swimming across the Atlantic Ocean. I could do it, but I’d rather fly (or use photo shop).[/quote]

    Actually, I prefer this one better, wiseasses!
    http://i256.photobuc...

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    That anything like “Harold and Kumar…” ?

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”273924″][quote comment=”273917″]You guys are right though…Imagine going down to the park to play some pick-up and there’s a DUDE wearing a pair of Liberty shorts.[/quote]

    or a pair of DICKS shorts[/quote]

    Would they match this jersey?
    http://i256.photobuc...

  • bobby | June 3, 2008 at 1:12 pm |

    Hadnt seen a any mention of this but I really like Stanford’s Pull over jerseys and stirups


    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • AK | June 3, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”273888″]Paul, that photo of the Osgood jersey is actually from Game 4 which was in Pittsburgh. My bad for not including that when I submitted it to you.[/quote]

    Pretty obvious by the abundance of Pittsburgh jerseys/fans.

  • jere | June 3, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    On the error card page–to me the most egregious one is when the writer refers to the dugout as the “clubhouse.” (On the Jeter card.)

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote]I just wish there were at least one good old ballpark, with simple ivy covered brick walls.

    Yeah. That’d be nice.[/quote]

    jim

    i haven’t checked the box scores or the standings…even my local paper…

    how bout them cubs? they still doin ok?

  • Walaitis | June 3, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”273949″]Hadnt seen a any mention of this but I really like Stanford’s Pull over jerseys and stirups


    http://www.sfgate.co...

    Those aren’t bad. You don’t often hear “pull over jersey” and “like” in the same comment on this site unless the context is “would like to beat the person who decided …”.

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2008 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”273949″]Hadnt seen a any mention of this but I really like Stanford’s Pull over jerseys and stirups


    http://www.sfgate.co...

    We have a Todd Helton situation…#6 is wearing Nikes with a blacked out logo while the team is outfitted by Mizuno!

  • Justin | June 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    The following was in Ken Rosenthal’s latest column on Fox Sports.

    “When especially agitated, Ethier will break helmets with his hands. Dodgers clubhouse manager Mitch Poole has taken to writing inspirational sayings inside Ethier’s helmets in an attempt to dissuade him from causing further damage.”

  • MPowers1634 | June 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”273954″][quote comment=”273949″]Hadnt seen a any mention of this but I really like Stanford’s Pull over jerseys and stirups


    http://www.sfgate.co...

    We have a Todd Helton situation…#6 is wearing Nikes with a blacked out logo while the team is outfitted by Mizuno![/quote]

    Actually, a whole mess of brands are pictured:

    Caps:TPX by Louisville Slugger
    Uniforms:Rawlings(Check their left sleeve)
    Cleats: Mizuno, except for #6 in the double play pic and #33 on the far left of the dugout pic. They are both wearing Nike Clippers.

  • Walaitis | June 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”273952″][quote]I just wish there were at least one good old ballpark, with simple ivy covered brick walls.

    Yeah. That’d be nice.[/quote]

    jim

    i haven’t checked the box scores or the standings…even my local paper…

    how bout them cubs? they still doin ok?[/quote]

    The Cubs? Is it still baseball season? (checking the good old St. Louis Post Dispatch parchment edition) Huh … lookie there. Yeah, looks like they might even obtain the best record in baseball if they win today!

  • Marty Met | June 3, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”273953″][quote comment=”273949″]Hadnt seen a any mention of this but I really like Stanford’s Pull over jerseys and stirups


    http://www.sfgate.co...

    Those aren’t bad. You don’t often hear “pull over jersey” and “like” in the same comment on this site unless the context is “would like to beat the person who decided …”.[/quote]

    I LOVE the new Blue Jays powder blue pull-overs. And my favorite uniforms of all time are the Pirates late 70’s early 80’s Black, Gold and Bumble Bee Stripe pullovers.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”273954″][quote comment=”273949″]Hadnt seen a any mention of this but I really like Stanford’s Pull over jerseys and stirups


    http://www.sfgate.co...

    We have a Todd Helton situation…#6 is wearing Nikes with a blacked out logo while the team is outfitted by Mizuno![/quote]

    good catch of the telltale swoosh, matt!

    almighty god! – no, no! powers saw! – he suspected!…he knew…he was making a mockery of my horror…this I thought, and this I think..but anything was better than this agony…anything was more tolerable than this derision…i could bear his hypocritical smile no longer…i felt that i must scream or die..and now…again…hark! louder! louder! louder! louder!

  • C.N. | June 3, 2008 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”273909″]That softball shorts video story narrator? Written by the same woman that caused OK ST football coach Mike Gundy to have the meltdown.

    She isn’t having a good year…[/quote]

    Uh, no, Mike Gundy had a meltdown because he has the self-control of a five-year-old. Saying nothing about his coaching abilities, and despite the fact that Ms. Carlson was clearly out of line, Gundy stooped to her level with his temper tantrum.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”273960″]Mike Gundy had a meltdown because he has the self-control of a five-year-old.[/quote]

    yeah…but that still made for a great coors light moment…

    /he’s 40, you know

  • Scott in Erie | June 3, 2008 at 2:54 pm |

    I think a while back Paul linked to a place to get some funky striped socks for people who get it.

    Anyone know what I’m talking about? I’d like to get a few pairs.

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | June 3, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”273959″][quote comment=”273954″][quote comment=”273949″]Hadnt seen a any mention of this but I really like Stanford’s Pull over jerseys and stirups


    http://www.sfgate.co...

    We have a Todd Helton situation…#6 is wearing Nikes with a blacked out logo while the team is outfitted by Mizuno![/quote]

    good catch of the telltale swoosh, matt!

    almighty god! – no, no! powers saw! – he suspected!…he knew…he was making a mockery of my horror…this I thought, and this I think..but anything was better than this agony…anything was more tolerable than this derision…i could bear his hypocritical smile no longer…i felt that i must scream or die..and now…again…hark! louder! louder! louder! louder![/quote]
    Good thing Stanford wasn’t playing Anderson University (http://www.anderson....)

  • tinger | June 3, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    Can’t find a link, but the local FOX affiliate in Philadelphia had a report last night on the upcoming changes to the US Army’s dress uniforms. Apparently a South Jersey company has been manufacturing them for years and prototypes are being made that include a color change from OD to blue, complete with gold-trimmed epulets (sp?) on the shoulders. NOT a good look (think hotel doorman).

  • Mike | June 3, 2008 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”273964″]Can’t find a link, but the local FOX affiliate in Philadelphia had a report last night on the upcoming changes to the US Army’s dress uniforms. Apparently a South Jersey company has been manufacturing them for years and prototypes are being made that include a color change from OD to blue, complete with gold-trimmed epulets (sp?) on the shoulders. NOT a good look (think hotel doorman).[/quote]

  • Ben | June 3, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    Aston Villa is giving up their shirt sponsorship to promote an English children’s charity, ala Barcelona.

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | June 3, 2008 at 4:15 pm |

    [knock, knock]
    Anybody home in here…..or is it just my computer acting up?

  • mtjaws | June 3, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    The Reds are on the bandwagon with emails urging continued votes for Griffey.

    Also, their emailed picture includes a Griffey 600 logo that I hadn’t seen before.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/c...

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    I know what you mean. I was just about to write something ripping Mike Piazza–y’know, ask how much some people would be pushing for his annointment into Hall of Fame if he hadn’t spent some time playing in New York–just to see if I could be the straw that stirs the drink.

    (How’s that for combining Yankee and Met references?)

  • mtjaws | June 3, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    Second try on Griffey picture link:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/c...

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | June 3, 2008 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”273968″]The Reds are on the bandwagon with emails urging continued votes for Griffey.

    Also, their emailed picture includes a Griffey 600 logo that I hadn’t seen before.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/c...
    White Sox aare doing the same – urging fans to write in Carlos Quentin (who may be just a tad more deserving of Junior – this year, at least)

  • mtjaws | June 3, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    Grr, last attempt:

    If it fails, try pasting it in. It wants to convert the x into goofy formating.

  • Duckstyle | June 3, 2008 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”273971″][quote comment=”273968″]The Reds are on the bandwagon with emails urging continued votes for Griffey.

    Also, their emailed picture includes a Griffey 600 logo that I hadn’t seen before.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/c...
    White Sox aare doing the same – urging fans to write in Carlos Quentin (who may be just a tad more deserving of Junior – this year, at least)[/quote]

    Hey, anything that could possibly put an end to the ridiculous amount of Red Sox and Yankees on the AL team, I’m all for. Plus like you said, Carlos deserves it, anyway. Me thinks it’s not going to have the same effect the Podsednik and “Punch AJ” campaigns did in years past, since they actually had their names on the ballot, albeit on the “Final Vote” ballot

  • Kevin M. | June 3, 2008 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”273973″][quote comment=”273971″][quote comment=”273968″]The Reds are on the bandwagon with emails urging continued votes for Griffey.

    Also, their emailed picture includes a Griffey 600 logo that I hadn’t seen before.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/c...
    White Sox aare doing the same – urging fans to write in Carlos Quentin (who may be just a tad more deserving of Junior – this year, at least)[/quote]

    Hey, anything that could possibly put an end to the ridiculous amount of Red Sox and Yankees on the AL team, I’m all for. Plus like you said, Carlos deserves it, anyway. Me thinks it’s not going to have the same effect the Podsednik and “Punch AJ” campaigns did in years past, since they actually had their names on the ballot, albeit on the “Final Vote” ballot[/quote]

    This is why I hate fan voting for the All-Star game due to it just being a popularity contest. If you look at the current standings its going to be Red Sox/Yankees vs the National League.

  • Mike | June 3, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    Woohoo! The USFA is playing again!

    http://www.theusfa.c...

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | June 3, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”273974″][quote comment=”273973″][quote comment=”273971″][quote comment=”273968″]The Reds are on the bandwagon with emails urging continued votes for Griffey.

    Also, their emailed picture includes a Griffey 600 logo that I hadn’t seen before.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/c...
    White Sox aare doing the same – urging fans to write in Carlos Quentin (who may be just a tad more deserving of Junior – this year, at least)[/quote]

    Hey, anything that could possibly put an end to the ridiculous amount of Red Sox and Yankees on the AL team, I’m all for. Plus like you said, Carlos deserves it, anyway. Me thinks it’s not going to have the same effect the Podsednik and “Punch AJ” campaigns did in years past, since they actually had their names on the ballot, albeit on the “Final Vote” ballot[/quote]

    This is why I hate fan voting for the All-Star game due to it just being a popularity contest. If you look at the current standings its going to be Red Sox/Yankees vs the National League.[/quote]
    Agreed, but as long as Bud “Call me ‘Bud'” Selig is in charge, it’ll remain a popularity contest. After all, he’s all about doing what’s best for the fans, right? [smirk, giggle, snort]

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | June 3, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”273975″]Woohoo! The USFA is playing again!

    http://www.theusfa.c...
    YEE-HAW!
    Sadly, the Buckhannon Break is no longer – jeez, I miss the glory days of that franchise.
    [sarcasm]

  • Mark K | June 3, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”273974″]
    This is why I hate fan voting for the All-Star game due to it just being a popularity contest. [/quote]

    Yeah- these games would be more entertaining with a larger collection of unpopular players.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”273974″][quote comment=”273973″]anything that could possibly put an end to the ridiculous amount of Red Sox and Yankees on the AL team, I’m all for.[/quote]

    If you look at the current standings its going to be Red Sox/Yankees vs the National League.[/quote]

    so…you’re saying that jeets, a-god, tek, pedroia, manny & papi don’t deserve it? i see vlad & ichiro are going…not exactly having career years either…and the game IS in yankee stadium

    damn that ECB

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”273977″][quote comment=”273975″]Woohoo! The USFA is playing again!

    http://www.theusfa.c...
    YEE-HAW!
    Sadly, the Buckhannon Break is no longer – jeez, I miss the glory days of that franchise.
    [sarcasm][/quote]

    If only the uniforms were up to the caliber of their logos and that website. I don’t expect the football to be anything but…interesting, abt st. I mean, let’s get real. Seriously, though, nice looking website.

  • Duckstyle | June 3, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”273978″][quote comment=”273974″]
    This is why I hate fan voting for the All-Star game due to it just being a popularity contest. [/quote]

    Yeah- these games would be more entertaining with a larger collection of unpopular players.[/quote]

    No, these games would be better if they actually had the best players of the current year on their rosters, and ignorant fans stopped voting for people just because of name recognition. I personally would like to see some combination of sports writers, GM’s, and Managers voting to decide the entire team.

  • Duckstyle | June 3, 2008 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”273979″][quote comment=”273974″][quote comment=”273973″]anything that could possibly put an end to the ridiculous amount of Red Sox and Yankees on the AL team, I’m all for.[/quote]

    If you look at the current standings its going to be Red Sox/Yankees vs the National League.[/quote]

    so…you’re saying that jeets, a-god, tek, pedroia, manny & papi don’t deserve it? i see vlad & ichiro are going…not exactly having career years either…and the game IS in yankee stadium

    damn that ECB[/quote]

    Or better yet, make people pass an online “Baseball IQ” test to determine whether or not they can vote. Of course some dumbass would just start a site with all the asnwers, about in my dream world that wouldn’t happen.

    While I’m at it, how bout a throw-back All-Star game. Have every player wear the uni their team wore when Yankee Stadium opened. And if their current team didn’t exist, then wear their teams’ uniform from their first year of existance. Ain’t she a beaut?

  • Walaitis | June 3, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”273981″][quote comment=”273978″][quote comment=”273974″]
    This is why I hate fan voting for the All-Star game due to it just being a popularity contest. [/quote]

    Yeah- these games would be more entertaining with a larger collection of unpopular players.[/quote]

    No, these games would be better if they actually had the best players of the current year on their rosters, and ignorant fans stopped voting for people just because of name recognition. I personally would like to see some combination of sports writers, GM’s, and Managers voting to decide the entire team.[/quote]

    No no no … still too much human interference there … they need to go by fantasy baseball popularity. That is one place where pure numbers mean EVERYTHING. I would be shocked if the top rated fantasy player in each position wasn’t – get this – the BEST PLAYER at that position.

  • Duckstyle | June 3, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”273983″][quote comment=”273981″][quote comment=”273978″][quote comment=”273974″]
    This is why I hate fan voting for the All-Star game due to it just being a popularity contest. [/quote]

    Yeah- these games would be more entertaining with a larger collection of unpopular players.[/quote]

    No, these games would be better if they actually had the best players of the current year on their rosters, and ignorant fans stopped voting for people just because of name recognition. I personally would like to see some combination of sports writers, GM’s, and Managers voting to decide the entire team.[/quote]

    No no no … still too much human interference there … they need to go by fantasy baseball popularity. That is one place where pure numbers mean EVERYTHING. I would be shocked if the top rated fantasy player in each position wasn’t – get this – the BEST PLAYER at that position.[/quote]

    Hrmmmmm, but even then, you’ve got idiots that don’t check their team after day one of the season….but you may be on to something.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote]these games would be better if they actually had the best players of the current year on their rosters, and ignorant fans stopped voting for people just because of name recognition. I personally would like to see some combination of sports writers, GM’s, and Managers voting to decide the entire team.[/quote]

    i totally agree with you that in many instances, better players get jobbed every year, and the balloting could be made more fair by placing some of the vote outside of the fans…

    that being said…the ASG was always about the best and most popular players…i always had a problem with the “one player per team” rule…why should i have to see a white sox or a brewer or a royal if they otherwise suck? because that’s the way it SHOULD be…

    deserving players will always get blown off while the more popular players will always get the nod…the way to fix it?

    have a career year and NEXT season you’ll get the nod

  • Duckstyle | June 3, 2008 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”273987″][quote]these games would be better if they actually had the best players of the current year on their rosters, and ignorant fans stopped voting for people just because of name recognition. I personally would like to see some combination of sports writers, GM’s, and Managers voting to decide the entire team.[/quote]

    i totally agree with you that in many instances, better players get jobbed every year, and the balloting could be made more fair by placing some of the vote outside of the fans…

    that being said…the ASG was always about the best and most popular players…i always had a problem with the “one player per team” rule…why should i have to see a white sox or a brewer or a royal if they otherwise suck? because that’s the way it SHOULD be…

    deserving players will always get blown off while the more popular players will always get the nod…the way to fix it?

    have a career year and NEXT season you’ll get the nod[/quote]

    Why you gotta throw the White Sox under the bus? I don’t really mind that rule as much, it gives people from every fan-base a reason to watch, and since they carry like 32ish players(too lazy to look it up) it won’t screw it up nearly as much as the fan voting does. I just hate that old mind-set of it being about the fans and whos popular….blah blah blah. Its like Paris Hilton, fmaous for being famous. Players are getting voted as All-Stars because they were All-Stars, it’s a joke. You’ve got 10 year old kids and gusy wives at games grabbing ballots and voting for the players they’ve heard of before. Makes me sick, not as much as watching Nick Swisher exist, but close.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”273988″]Why you gotta throw the White Sox under the bus?[/quote]

    well…that’s your team, innit? if jim (walaitis) had said it, ida said the cubbies

    [quote] Makes me sick, not as much as watching Nick Swisher exist, but close.[/quote]

    so wrong

    so very…very…wrong

  • Walaitis | June 3, 2008 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”273987″][quote]these games would be better if they actually had the best players of the current year on their rosters, and ignorant fans stopped voting for people just because of name recognition. I personally would like to see some combination of sports writers, GM’s, and Managers voting to decide the entire team.[/quote]

    i totally agree with you that in many instances, better players get jobbed every year, and the balloting could be made more fair by placing some of the vote outside of the fans…

    that being said…the ASG was always about the best and most popular players…i always had a problem with the “one player per team” rule…why should i have to see a white sox or a brewer or a royal if they otherwise suck? because that’s the way it SHOULD be…

    deserving players will always get blown off while the more popular players will always get the nod…the way to fix it?

    have a career year and NEXT season you’ll get the nod[/quote]

    … unless you’re a short stop in the national league between 1980 and 1990 and your name isn’t Ozzie … then nothing else matters.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 5:40 pm |

    continuing along the lines of ‘non-deserving’ all stars…just out of curiosity…who was the 2001 ASG mvp?

    yeah…and without the fans, im pretty sure he wouldn’t have even been named to the team

    wasn’t that home run off chan-ho a thing to behold? didn’t that (seriously) send a smile to your face and a chill down your spine? how about a-rod switching places?

    c’mon…sometimes ya gotta have those guys

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 5:43 pm |

    We allow people to reproduce (such as, potentially, couple with guy in Lisa Leslie jersey or charming duo with #3 shaved into guy’s back) without them taking any kind of test to prove they have the slightest clue about anything. Given that, gonna be tough to get a baseball IQ test into the mix.

    I can see it now…

    Question #1. What was “Suitcase” Simpson’s real first name?

    96% of answers will be “Homer.”

    3% will be “Jessica.”
    1% (if we’re lucky) will get it right.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”273993″]We allow people to reproduce (such as, potentially, couple with guy in Lisa Leslie jersey or charming duo with #3 shaved into guy’s back) without them taking any kind of test to prove they have the slightest clue about anything. Given that, gonna be tough to get a baseball IQ test into the mix.

    I can see it now…

    Question #1. What was “Suitcase” Simpson’s real first name?

    96% of answers will be “Homer.”

    3% will be “Jessica.”
    1% (if we’re lucky) will get it right.[/quote]

    OJ?

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 5:46 pm |

    Depends if the new trial has started yet.

  • Duckstyle | June 3, 2008 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”273992″]continuing along the lines of ‘non-deserving’ all stars…just out of curiosity…who was the 2001 ASG mvp?

    yeah…and without the fans, im pretty sure he wouldn’t have even been named to the team

    wasn’t that home run off chan-ho a thing to behold? didn’t that (seriously) send a smile to your face and a chill down your spine? how about a-rod switching places?

    c’mon…sometimes ya gotta have those guys[/quote]

    Oh, he woulda been on that team no matter what, and I’m sure A-Rod would have found a way to let him start the game, or some such non-sense. And yes, I did, crack a smile. Right after my dad said, “…really grooved that one in there for him…”

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    Bet O.J.’s regretting not wearing gloves to that hotel room. Could skip his arthritis meds for a couple days again, let his hands swell up and…well, you know the rest of the story.

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 5:55 pm |

    [quote]Oh, he woulda been on that team no matter what[/quote]

    well…of course, torre would have named him had the fans not…especially since he chose to announce before all star balloting he’d be retiring at the end of the year…just so…ya know…he’d get that nudge from the fans

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 5:58 pm |

    Same thing Gaylord Perry did, cuz he wanted all those rocking chairs from all over the league. LOL

  • Duckstyle | June 3, 2008 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”273993″]We allow people to reproduce (such as, potentially, couple with guy in Lisa Leslie jersey or charming duo with #3 shaved into guy’s back) without them taking any kind of test to prove they have the slightest clue about anything. Given that, gonna be tough to get a baseball IQ test into the mix.

    I can see it now…

    Question #1. What was “Suitcase” Simpson’s real first name?

    96% of answers will be “Homer.”

    3% will be “Jessica.”
    1% (if we’re lucky) will get it right.[/quote]

    I was thinking more along the lines of…

    What does OBP stand for?
    Name all 6 division leaders as of right now. (You’d have to answer at least 5 out of 6 correct)
    Why do people like watching pitchers hit?
    Why does Juan Uribe get paid to “play” baseball?

    Stuff like that.

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 5:59 pm |

    Uh-oh, it’s time to go home.

    ohdarn.

  • Ricko1 | June 3, 2008 at 6:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”274000″][quote comment=”273993″]We allow people to reproduce (such as, potentially, couple with guy in Lisa Leslie jersey or charming duo with #3 shaved into guy’s back) without them taking any kind of test to prove they have the slightest clue about anything. Given that, gonna be tough to get a baseball IQ test into the mix.

    I can see it now…

    Question #1. What was “Suitcase” Simpson’s real first name?

    96% of answers will be “Homer.”

    3% will be “Jessica.”
    1% (if we’re lucky) will get it right.[/quote]

    I was thinking more along the lines of…

    What does OBP stand for?
    Name all 6 division leaders as of right now. (You’d have to answer at least 5 out of 6 correct)
    Why do people like watching pitchers hit?
    Why does Juan Uribe get paid to “play” baseball?

    Stuff like that.[/quote]

    I know what you meant. Was just imagining some of the really dippy folks who vote. Besides, everybody knows “Suitcase” Simpson’s real first name Samsonite.

    (walks toward car rolling eyes. ‘bye all.)

  • Brendan | June 3, 2008 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”273881″]New Celtic FC Away Kit story here….
    http://www.celticfc....

    These are beautiful. I know I’ve said it many times before, but Nike’s soccer department is on the ball.

  • Stephen | June 3, 2008 at 6:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”273886″]Lots of comments yesterday about the new Gwinnett Braves logo, but most of them were on the new cap design. According to the story here, the home jersey will look like this.

    I gotta say, I love the Braves, and I really dig the new G-Braves road cap, but if this really is the home jersey, I am extremely dissapointed. It looks like a softball jersey, or a little league shirt, or something.

    ~E~[/quote]

    Ugh…looks like it IS the real home jersey.

    Logos, Etc.
    Stadium groundbreaking Gallery

    Again, I dig the logos, but hate, hate, hate that home jersey!

    ~E~

  • Beef | June 3, 2008 at 7:14 pm |

    I’m sure I am only one of a few, but I’ve been watching the WCWS. That’s the Women’s College World Series. I’ve noticed some unigue Patch activity going on. I’ve got a couple pics that I’m looking to send in. I’ll add more details later but while I was looking for the Patch on the ASU jerseys I found this comment on the ASU website http://thesundevils....

    “ASU is the only university in the nation that issues a jersey patch to recognize academic achievement for its football players.”

    I remember Paul going over schools giving academic recognition on the Uni but didn’t think ASU was the only one. Or maybe they are the only one with a “Patch”.

  • Chad G | June 3, 2008 at 7:33 pm |

    [quote comment=\”274005\”]I\’m sure I am only one of a few, but I\’ve been watching the WCWS. That\’s the Women\’s College World Series. I\’ve noticed some unigue Patch activity going on. I\’ve got a couple pics that I\’m looking to send in. I\’ll add more details later but while I was looking for the Patch on the ASU jerseys I found this comment on the ASU website http://thesundevils....

    \”ASU is the only university in the nation that issues a jersey patch to recognize academic achievement for its football players.\”

    I remember Paul going over schools giving academic recognition on the Uni but didn\’t think ASU was the only one. Or maybe they are the only one with a \”Patch\”.[/quote]

    Tennesse has a patch, it is an orange torch.
    http://images.usatod...

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 8:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”274006″]Tennesse has a patch, it is an orange torch.
    http://images.usatod...

    it is the “VOL SCHOLAR” INSIGNIA

    to wit: The VOLScholar program, an initiative of UT’s Thornton Athletics Student Life Center in cooperation with the men’s and women’s athletics departments, is a comprehensive academic and citizenship-building program that has gained enthusiastic support from several of UT’s athletic teams. Student-athletes earned the right to wear the VOLScholar patch by achieving a 3.0 grade-point average in the previous fall and/or spring semester. “We have a lot of outstanding young men and women in our program that are doing great things on and off the field of competition,” said Mike Hamilton, men’s athletics director. “This is just another way to recognize them for their behavior and prepare them for life after school.”

    needless to say, very few patches are issued

  • Confused | June 3, 2008 at 8:34 pm |

    I’m confused – sorry if this is obvious and I am just clueless – but RIP, Bo.

    RIP, Bo?

  • Stephen | June 3, 2008 at 8:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”274009″]I’m confused – sorry if this is obvious and I am just clueless – but RIP, Bo.

    RIP, Bo?[/quote]
    Bo Diddley, who died yesterday.

    ~E~

  • Brian F. | June 3, 2008 at 8:41 pm |

    During the Twins v. Orioles pregame, they had a mic’ed clip of mike redmond talking about kevin millar from when they played together in florida. Mike told a story about kevin millar buying a pair of basketball shoes, black patent leather….he then sent them to “that place in san diego” to get spikes put on the bottom and wore them in a game… anybody have any insight to what “place” that was and how horrible that must have looked in game?

  • James Craven | June 3, 2008 at 9:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”273924″][quote comment=”273917″]“You guys are right though…Imagine going down to the park to play some pick-up and there’s a DUDE wearing a pair of Liberty shorts.”[/quote]

    “Or a pair of DICKS shorts.”[/quote]

    Damn it, Phil!

    [quote comment=”273949″]“Hadn’t seen a any mention of this but I really like Stanford’s pullover jerseys and stirrups.”[/quote]

    You, sir, are a sorry excuse for leisure suits…

    [quote comment=”273909″]“That softball shorts video story narrator? Written by the same woman that caused Oklahoma State football coach Mike Gundy to have the meltdown.

    “She isn’t having a good year…”[/quote]

    BE A MAN!

  • lwiedy | June 3, 2008 at 9:30 pm |

    This guy wore an insert in 1970 but was sold to the Mets in 1971 and never played again, maybe they made him wear a helmet and he just quit. Or maybe it was his .191 lifetime ba.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    BTW, in the pre-telephoto lens days of Topps cards, would Thurman be the most photographed player on other baseball cards?
    Speaking of Thurm and photoshopping, I’m pretty sure he didn’t wear ankle length pants and a swoosh in 1973:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Will Elliott | June 3, 2008 at 9:44 pm |

    I disagree with the softball shorts video. I like the baseball-style uniforms better – the glossy shorts and jersey combos look too much like soccer uniforms to me.

  • Patrick | June 3, 2008 at 9:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”273932″]The lady friend came to the house in these yesterday
    http://www.cleveland...
    afreakingmazing[/quote]

    Is that all she wore? ;-)

  • LI Phil | June 3, 2008 at 10:02 pm |

    anyone have the splits on petey on 61 days rest?

  • Jim | June 3, 2008 at 10:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”274016″]anyone have the splits on petey on 61 days rest?[/quote]

    Dude, You need to sleep (or get a job). Though as long as you’re gonna patrol the site all hours of the day and night, guess I can take a break now.

  • Jim W | June 4, 2008 at 12:16 am |

    [quote comment=”273961″][quote comment=”273960″]Mike Gundy had a meltdown because he has the self-control of a five-year-old.[/quote]

    yeah…but that still made for a great coors light moment…

    /he’s 40, you know[/quote]

    Hey – me too! And Phil – I’m not the “Jim” who dissed you in #135 – you rock Dude!

  • Jim W | June 4, 2008 at 12:18 am |

    Nice to see Berman in my old hometown, but Jeez, could you take the tag off the jersey first?

    http://images.tsn.ca...

  • Brendan | June 4, 2008 at 1:00 am |

    [quote comment=”274019″]Nice to see Berman in my old hometown, but Jeez, could you take the tag off the jersey first?

    http://images.tsn.ca...

    Ahh, the CFL. The only league that had two teams with the same name for eighty years.

  • Frank | June 4, 2008 at 3:46 am |

    [quote comment=”273884″]By the way, has anyone here seen unis based on whatever they wore over at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken?[/quote]

    One pic of the game at Elysian Fields is here, can’t really see the outfits in 1846, ’59 and ’65 has the color pic which is referenced a bit. Nice shot of that here.

    Hoboken has a plaque in honor of the Elysian Fields game, also a crosswalk at an intersection is paved to resemble a baseball diamond. Not to scale, but still fun to cross the street and pretend to steal the base or score a run! View of the intersection, here.

  • Frank | June 4, 2008 at 4:03 am |

    [quote comment=”273980″][quote comment=”273977″][quote comment=”273975″]Woohoo! The USFA is playing again!

    http://www.theusfa.c...
    YEE-HAW!
    Sadly, the Buckhannon Break is no longer – jeez, I miss the glory days of that franchise.
    [sarcasm][/quote]

    If only the uniforms were up to the caliber of their logos and that website. I don’t expect the football to be anything but…interesting, abt st. I mean, let’s get real. Seriously, though, nice looking website.[/quote]

    The Cleveland Cobra is neat.

    Some of those logos look a lot like the custom team logos on the ESPN NFL football game circa 2004. No pix handy, need a time machine.

  • Frank | June 4, 2008 at 4:15 am |

    [quote comment=”274021″][quote comment=”273884″]By the way, has anyone here seen unis based on whatever they wore over at the Elysian Fields in Hoboken?[/quote]

    One pic of the game at Elysian Fields is not here, can’t really see the outfits in 1846, ’59 and ’65 has the color pic which is referenced a bit. Nice shot of that not here.

    Hoboken has a plaque not here.[/quote]

    Somehow botched every link.

    Game at Elysian field:
    http://www.hobokenba...

    Better shot of the 1865 pic:
    http://www.19cbaseba...

    Plaque:
    http://blog.roodo.co...

    Baseball diamond paved intersection:
    http://maps.google.c...

  • Tony Miller | June 4, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”274016″]anyone have the splits on petey on 61 days rest?[/quote]

    It was actually 62 days rest (April 2-30 is 29 days, May 1-31 is 31 days, June 1-2 is 2 days), but his splits on 62 days are here.

  • Patrick M | June 4, 2008 at 1:55 pm |

    Concerning batting helmet inserts, if memory serves (certainly a big if) Sam McDowell of the Indians and later of the Giants wore an insert instead of a batting helmet. McDowell is still associated with baseball in some capacity as an alcohol counselor, I think, so it might be possible to get in touch with him to verify.

  • El Scotto | June 5, 2008 at 12:11 am |

    I just got an email from World Rugby Shop that the USA Eagles are now sponsored by jersey maker Canterbury. They are getting brand new kits, and first impressions are NOT good. Even by rugby standards.