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They’re Not Playing Like a Mickey Mouse Team, So…

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Vince here. Last year, Andrew Ranck documented his experience at the Devil Rays game at Disney for the Uni Watch faithful. The other day, I received a missive from Andrew with a new batch of pictures and assorted descriptions of his most recent trip to watch the AL East powerhouse at Disney, so it’s time for an update. Andrew’s account is below.

This year my friends and I decided to take the traditional (read: cheap) route and sit in the grass in the outfield. It was a nice night, so laying out a blanket and watching the game from left field was a nice (and popular) alternative.

One nuance of the park is that the bullpen is actually located directly in front of the grass seating area.

Sitting in the grass was actually kind of a nice change. Disney did a great job of having temporary concession stands located around the outer ring of the grass (the white tents in the pictures.) I was actually kind of surprised with the amount of alcohol being served this year as opposed to last. This year they had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.

Before the sun went down it was shining directly in our eyes, so I took the opportunity to walk up towards home plate a get a picture of the batter’s box and home dugout (with temporary advertising for Pepsi and NewEra included). The warm up circle looked to be the same one used the previous year. My guess is that it’s the generic one they use for Atlanta’s spring training games in the stadium.

From the stands you could see the advertising pennants that are a permanent part of the park. Upon closer inspection (aided by the fact that we were sitting right under them), I saw that some of them were temporary coverings, which (due to the Rays-centric nature of them), I assume were just for that series.

The only scoreboard in the place was the one in center field, and like last year it was pretty Spartan in the information it provided. Also, there was a temporary jumbo-tron that showed player intros and between inning commercials. The problem was, from the outfield grass, you couldn’t see the center field scoreboard, and since there weren’t any others, a lot of time was spent figuring out how many balls and strikes there were.

Little kids would play catch on the grass behind the left field wall, until Disney employees (shown here in the orange shirts) would chase them away.The kids were really good at the “wait until they go away, then go right back to doing it” game, so Disney eventually had to have park security (nicknamed “the fun police” by the adults in the crowd) to keep them away.

Anyway, besides that small experience of Disney big brother behavior, they trip was a great time, and not a bad way to spend an evening. I heard attendance was a little lower then last year, but that’s being blamed by the Rays and Disney on the Magic playoff series going on at the same time.

Let’s all give Andrew a nice round of applause for his report from the land of Mickey.

A Quick Aside: If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me. Seattle’s Eddie Rodriguez was manning first base with just a hat, and being only six rows behind home plate, I decided I could make a difference. Apologies to all children in that section, as my language was not quite as proper as I portrayed it here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: A little birdie named Patrick Wilson points out that some time during spring training, Pat Burrell gave the bird to someone. … Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2. … LeGarrette Blount chose to play football for the Oregon Ducks because — wait, this can’t be right — he liked the uniforms? (A depressing thanks to Greg Riffenburgh and Brett Crane). … Many people chipped in to explain that the quarterback-style wristband on college baseball players is for calling pitches from the dugout without the opposing team being able to pick off the signs. Thanks.

 

184 comments to They’re Not Playing Like a Mickey Mouse Team, So…

  • Jim | April 30, 2008 at 8:17 am |

    Here’s a Brett Hull ‘cameo’ I think Paul missed in his cameo articles. Only played 5 games, with 1 assist, then retired. Heard he hated Gretzky has a coach. Or realized what team he was playing for… sorry, don’t know how to make words into links.

    http://www.gettyimag...|1&axs=0|72852622%2c72852620%2c72852581%2c72852579%2c72741220%2c72738579%2c72738578%2c72738577%2c72738575%2c72738573%2c72738572%2c72738570%2c72738569%2c72107016%2c72106940%2c71186985%2c56072529%2c56072134%2c55897644%2c55897640%2c55897634%2c55893391%2c55893388%2c55893387%2c55869310%2c55908225%2c55858376%2c55858317%2c55858284%2c55858283%2c55858280%2c55858253%2c55855763%2c55855738%2c55905344%2c55759861%2c55759859%2c55731828%2c55772056|0&id=55759859

  • Andy Jacobs | April 30, 2008 at 8:17 am |

    A Quick Aside: If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me. Seattle’s Eddie Rodriguez was manning first base with just a hat, and being only six rows behind home plate, I decided I could make a difference. Apologies to all children in that section, as my language was not quite as proper as I portrayed it here.

    Is it me or do the moderators (both the fill in and the actual owner) have a little ego problems?

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 8:18 am |

    [quote]Disney…had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.[/quote]

    sweet…im guessing everyone takes public transportation to the game and there are no young children present

    and yet, miley cyrus is now a bad role model for the youth

  • Jim | April 30, 2008 at 8:21 am |

    Watching the tigers game last night waiting for the Wings game to come on, and noticed that I think it was the 8th inning when Jeter was up to bat, that the tiger pitcher had his jersey untucked while pitching. The cameras even did a close-up to it.

    Screen shot? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

  • Cathy | April 30, 2008 at 8:22 am |

    [quote comment=”256881″]A Quick Aside: If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me. Seattle’s Eddie Rodriguez was manning first base with just a hat, and being only six rows behind home plate, I decided I could make a difference. Apologies to all children in that section, as my language was not quite as proper as I portrayed it here.

    Is it me or do the moderators (both the fill in and the actual owner) have a little ego problems?[/quote]

    Oh boy…here we go again…just like yesterday. The moderator and his fill-ins are the “bloggers” on this “blog”. If you don’t like what they blog about, their writing style, their behavior, their likes and dislikes etc. Then simply un-bookmark the blog and don’t read it. Simple.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 8:24 am |

    [quote]Is it me or do the moderators (both the fill in and the actual owner) have a little ego problems?[/quote]

    can we please NOT do this again today?

    jesus christ

  • Jim | April 30, 2008 at 8:25 am |

    [quote comment=”256881″]A Quick Aside: If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me. Seattle’s Eddie Rodriguez was manning first base with just a hat, and being only six rows behind home plate, I decided I could make a difference. Apologies to all children in that section, as my language was not quite as proper as I portrayed it here.

    Is it me or do the moderators (both the fill in and the actual owner) have a little ego problems?[/quote]

    It’s just you…

  • Vince Grzegorek | April 30, 2008 at 8:26 am |

    [quote comment=”256891″][quote comment=”256881″]A Quick Aside: If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me. Seattle’s Eddie Rodriguez was manning first base with just a hat, and being only six rows behind home plate, I decided I could make a difference. Apologies to all children in that section, as my language was not quite as proper as I portrayed it here.

    Is it me or do the moderators (both the fill in and the actual owner) have a little ego problems?[/quote]

    Oh boy…here we go again…just like yesterday. The moderator and his fill-ins are the “bloggers” on this “blog”. If you don’t like what they blog about, their writing style, their behavior, their likes and dislikes etc. Then simply un-bookmark the blog and don’t read it. Simple.[/quote]

    Ok, that’s that. Done and done. On to uniforms. Or, I swear, I’ll turn this blog around right now.

  • John T | April 30, 2008 at 8:33 am |

    The kids were really good at the “wait until they go away, then go right back to doing it” game,

    god that was a good line, brought back a few memories. It would be cool for kids to be able to play ball during a game. I know, the ball could go on to the field and stop a game for 30 secs but hey let them play!!

    great job Andrew, nice details on a good evening

  • Andy Jacobs | April 30, 2008 at 8:35 am |

    Excuse me, didnt read it yesterday…

    indians blue jerseys at home with the blue and red hats made think it was 1995 all over again

  • Bryan | April 30, 2008 at 8:37 am |

    [quote comment=”256889″]Watching the tigers game last night waiting for the Wings game to come on, and noticed that I think it was the 8th inning when Jeter was up to bat, that the tiger pitcher had his jersey untucked while pitching. The cameras even did a close-up to it.

    Screen shot? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?[/quote]
    I saw that as well. I was trying to figure out if I had ever seen a baseball player with their jersey not tucked (besides after a slide)

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 8:44 am |

    [quote comment=”256917″][quote comment=”256889″]Watching the tigers game last night waiting for the Wings game to come on, and noticed that I think it was the 8th inning when Jeter was up to bat, that the tiger pitcher had his jersey untucked while pitching. The cameras even did a close-up to it.

    Screen shot? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?[/quote]
    I saw that as well. I was trying to figure out if I had ever seen a baseball player with their jersey not tucked (besides after a slide)[/quote]

    here

    not the best pic, but it works

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    Just wondering: Who was the first guy to hit a walk-off homer and do the helmet flip right before crossing homeplate and being mobbed by teammates?

    I think it might have Manny, but it seems like everyone does it now.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”256941″]Just wondering: Who was the first guy to hit a walk-off homer and do the helmet flip right before crossing homeplate and being mobbed by teammates?

    I think it might have Manny, but it seems like everyone does it now.[/quote]

    couldn’t tell you who the first hat flipper was…but im pretty sure it was the cincy reds who started that hippity hop thing every team now does when greeting the walk-offer

  • teamcinnamon | April 30, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    Burrell giving the finger was actually from 2007 during the preseason “On-Deck Series” (last 2 games of the preseason that take place at Citizens Bank Park in Philly) against the BoSox.

    He was gesturing across the field to former manager, Terry Francona.

  • scott | April 30, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment=”256911″]The kids were really good at the “wait until they go away, then go right back to doing it” game,

    god that was a good line, brought back a few memories. It would be cool for kids to be able to play ball during a game. I know, the ball could go on to the field and stop a game for 30 secs but hey let them play!!

    great job Andrew, nice details on a good evening[/quote]

    A few years ago this continually happened during a n Appalachian League game in Martinsville, Va. There was a grassy area in front of the 3B bleachers where kids were playing catch throughout the game, and their overthrows would end up near 3B coach Jorge Orta, who didn’t seem to mind getting the ball and tossing it back to them.

    Was last night the first time the Astros wore their gray jerseys this season? Arizona sort of forced the issue by wearing its red tops.

  • Tom | April 30, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    As for the Rays in Disney this year and the lower attendance, I live in/around Orlando, and honestly the advertising for the series wasn’t there this year, last year the advertising was much more prominent, TV, radio, billboards etc. This year I saw maybe two or three TV spots, and the series had come and gone before anyone knew it.

  • sean lewis | April 30, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    no pics but real salt lake (mls) will be wearing green jerseys on honor of earth day tonight.

  • Mike Edgerly | April 30, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”256883″][quote]Disney…had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.[/quote]

    sweet…im guessing everyone takes public transportation to the game and there are no young children present

    and yet, miley cyrus is now a bad role model for the youth[/quote]
    They can’t even let the kids play catch! Geez, it’s a RAYS game for crying out loud!

  • sean lewis | April 30, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    sorry, i am unable to get a link to work, here is the address for real salt lake’s press release about green jerseys

    http://web.mlsnet.co...

  • James P. | April 30, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    Astros wore their road grays for the first time this season last night against the D-Bag…er…D-Backs because the brick red jersey/gray pants would have clashed with the dark red/white pants, and the D-Backs wouldn’t have that…

  • Juan Grande | April 30, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away!

  • Jason | April 30, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”256979″]As for the Rays in Disney this year and the lower attendance, I live in/around Orlando, and honestly the advertising for the series wasn’t there this year, last year the advertising was much more prominent, TV, radio, billboards etc. This year I saw maybe two or three TV spots, and the series had come and gone before anyone knew it.[/quote]

    I live between Tampa and Orlando and had no idea the Rays were playing at Disney again this year until I saw the game on TV. They did a terrible job of promoting this year. As for the alcohol choices at the ballpark, it sounds like this year’s choices were alot more inline with what they offer at Braves Spring Training.

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    Nothing wrong with selling booze at a ballpark. We don’t need to kiddie-proof the world.

    Glad to see that the Rays continue to reach out to the rest of Florida, but dismayed at the attendance problems. That sounds like the perfect way to watch a game. I’ll take your word for it on the poor advertising – they better fix that next season.

  • Kevin M. | April 30, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”257002″][quote comment=”256979″]As for the Rays in Disney this year and the lower attendance, I live in/around Orlando, and honestly the advertising for the series wasn’t there this year, last year the advertising was much more prominent, TV, radio, billboards etc. This year I saw maybe two or three TV spots, and the series had come and gone before anyone knew it.[/quote]

    I live between Tampa and Orlando and had no idea the Rays were playing at Disney again this year until I saw the game on TV. They did a terrible job of promoting this year. As for the alcohol choices at the ballpark, it sounds like this year’s choices were alot more inline with what they offer at Braves Spring Training.[/quote]

    You live in Downtown Orlampa?

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    Oddly enough, the Suns wore purple last night and they were eliminated from the playoffs.

    Huh. That’s odd.

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”256990″]Astros wore their road grays for the first time this season last night against the D-Bag…er…D-Backs because the brick red jersey/gray pants would have clashed with the dark red/white pants, and the D-Backs wouldn’t have that…[/quote]
    Yeah, I was watching highlights the other night and couldn’t tell which team was which. I don’t get the color scheme change for either team.

  • Tom | April 30, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    You live in Downtown Orlampa?

    Not yet, but he will when they finally develop that in 150 years!

  • Wade | April 30, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”256879″]Here’s a Brett Hull ‘cameo’ I think Paul missed in his cameo articles. Only played 5 games, with 1 assist, then retired. Heard he hated Gretzky has a coach. Or realized what team he was playing for… sorry, don’t know how to make words into links.

    http://www.gettyimag...|1&axs=0|72852622%2c72852620%2c72852581%2c72852579%2c72741220%2c72738579%2c72738578%2c72738577%2c72738575%2c72738573%2c72738572%2c72738570%2c72738569%2c72107016%2c72106940%2c71186985%2c56072529%2c56072134%2c55897644%2c55897640%2c55897634%2c55893391%2c55893388%2c55893387%2c55869310%2c55908225%2c55858376%2c55858317%2c55858284%2c55858283%2c55858280%2c55858253%2c55855763%2c55855738%2c55905344%2c55759861%2c55759859%2c55731828%2c55772056|0&id=55759859[/quote]

    Brett wore number 9 when he was in Phoenix too, after his Dad, Bobby, unretired the number from his Jets days. I can’t find any pictures to prove he actually wore it, though.

    Brett retired after only 5 games, his reasoning was because he was too fat and slow.

  • Jim | April 30, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”257038″][quote comment=”256879″]Here’s a Brett Hull ‘cameo’ I think Paul missed in his cameo articles. Only played 5 games, with 1 assist, then retired. Heard he hated Gretzky has a coach. Or realized what team he was playing for… sorry, don’t know how to make words into links.

    http://www.gettyimag...|1&axs=0|72852622%2c72852620%2c72852581%2c72852579%2c72741220%2c72738579%2c72738578%2c72738577%2c72738575%2c72738573%2c72738572%2c72738570%2c72738569%2c72107016%2c72106940%2c71186985%2c56072529%2c56072134%2c55897644%2c55897640%2c55897634%2c55893391%2c55893388%2c55893387%2c55869310%2c55908225%2c55858376%2c55858317%2c55858284%2c55858283%2c55858280%2c55858253%2c55855763%2c55855738%2c55905344%2c55759861%2c55759859%2c55731828%2c55772056|0&id=55759859[/quote]

    Brett wore number 9 when he was in Phoenix too, after his Dad, Bobby, unretired the number from his Jets days. I can’t find any pictures to prove he actually wore it, though.

    Brett retired after only 5 games, his reasoning was because he was too fat and slow.[/quote]

    I thought he wore #9 too, couldn’t find a picture either.

  • Colin | April 30, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    Saw SI’s gallery of Larry Brown’s career. The first picture, linked below, shows him during his playing days at UNC. Is there a story behind the socks? It almost looks like there are slots for a belt of some sort. Also some very funny outfits from his early coaching days are in the gallery.
    http://sportsillustr...

  • Steve | April 30, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”256941″]Just wondering: Who was the first guy to hit a walk-off homer and do the helmet flip right before crossing homeplate and being mobbed by teammates?

    I think it might have Manny, but it seems like everyone does it now.[/quote]
    I recall somewhere hearing that it was Ortiz during a streak of walk-offs he had a few years ago where he was getting tired of the pounding on his head…but I could be wrong.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 30, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    There is no such thing as a ‘walk-off’ homer, single, or anything else. ‘Walk-off’ implies that the batter hits the ball and just walks to the dugout. Well, if you walk to the dugout you can’t reach first base. Therefore, no single, double, triple homer or anything else. And, if the score is tied and the batter hits one out of the park he can’t just walk into the dugout. He HAS to touch ’em all. The only way I’ll accept any of this is with a ‘walk-off’ home run where the batter doesn’t have to round the bases to get the win.

    Okay … sorry … had to get that off my chest. It’s just a pet peeve of mine.

    Now … back to your regularly scheduled UniWatch discussions.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote]Nothing wrong with selling booze at a ballpark. We don’t need to kiddie-proof the world.[/quote]

    couldn’t agree more chance…lest you mistook my comment for actually caring (or if it was even directed towards me)

    just attempting (poorly, as it’s really apples to oranges) to point out disney’s hypocracy in selling adult beverages and such (and as someone else pointed out, employing the ‘fun police’), and being all high and mighty about the vanity fair pics of super-hottie miley

    can’t have it both ways, disney…

  • Kris Fulton | April 30, 2008 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=\”257041\”][quote comment=\”257038\”][quote comment=\”256879\”]Here\’s a Brett Hull \’cameo\’ I think Paul missed in his cameo articles. Only played 5 games, with 1 assist, then retired. Heard he hated Gretzky has a coach. Or realized what team he was playing for… sorry, don\’t know how to make words into links.

    http://www.gettyimag...|1&axs=0|72852622%2c72852620%2c72852581%2c72852579%2c72741220%2c72738579%2c72738578%2c72738577%2c72738575%2c72738573%2c72738572%2c72738570%2c72738569%2c72107016%2c72106940%2c71186985%2c56072529%2c56072134%2c55897644%2c55897640%2c55897634%2c55893391%2c55893388%2c55893387%2c55869310%2c55908225%2c55858376%2c55858317%2c55858284%2c55858283%2c55858280%2c55858253%2c55855763%2c55855738%2c55905344%2c55759861%2c55759859%2c55731828%2c55772056|0&id=55759859[/quote]

    Brett wore number 9 when he was in Phoenix too, after his Dad, Bobby, unretired the number from his Jets days. I can\’t find any pictures to prove he actually wore it, though.

    Brett retired after only 5 games, his reasoning was because he was too fat and slow.[/quote]

    I thought he wore #9 too, couldn\’t find a picture either.[/quote]

    Brett Hull wore #9 for the home opener – October 8th, 2005. They had a pregame ceremony to \”unretire\” the number. Here\’s a decent pic with the ESPN article.

  • Kris Fulton | April 30, 2008 at 10:24 am |
  • Kevin M. | April 30, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”257058″]There is no such thing as a ‘walk-off’ homer, single, or anything else. ‘Walk-off’ implies that the batter hits the ball and just walks to the dugout. Well, if you walk to the dugout you can’t reach first base. Therefore, no single, double, triple homer or anything else. And, if the score is tied and the batter hits one out of the park he can’t just walk into the dugout. He HAS to touch ’em all. The only way I’ll accept any of this is with a ‘walk-off’ home run where the batter doesn’t have to round the bases to get the win.

    Okay … sorry … had to get that off my chest. It’s just a pet peeve of mine.

    Now … back to your regularly scheduled UniWatch discussions.[/quote]

    I read somewhere that Dennis Eckersley came up with the term “walk-off” whatever due to the fact the losing team had to walk off the field as losers.

  • spencer | April 30, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”257073″][quote comment=”257058″]There is no such thing as a ‘walk-off’ homer, single, or anything else. ‘Walk-off’ implies that the batter hits the ball and just walks to the dugout. Well, if you walk to the dugout you can’t reach first base. Therefore, no single, double, triple homer or anything else. And, if the score is tied and the batter hits one out of the park he can’t just walk into the dugout. He HAS to touch ’em all. The only way I’ll accept any of this is with a ‘walk-off’ home run where the batter doesn’t have to round the bases to get the win.

    Okay … sorry … had to get that off my chest. It’s just a pet peeve of mine.

    Now … back to your regularly scheduled UniWatch discussions.[/quote]

    I read somewhere that Dennis Eckersley came up with the term “walk-off” whatever due to the fact the losing team had to walk off the field as losers.[/quote]

    when in doubt…turn to wiki

    The first known usage of the word in print appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle on April 21, 1988, Section D, Page 1. Chronicle writer Lowell Cohn wrote an article headlined “What the Eck?” about Oakland reliever Dennis Eckersley’s unusual way of speaking: “For a translation, I go in search of Eckersley. I also want to know why he calls short home runs ‘street pieces,’ and home runs that come in the last at-bat of a game ‘walkoff pieces’. . . .” Although the term originally was coined with a negative connotation, in reference to the pitcher (who must walk off the field with his head hung in shame), it has come to acquire a more celebratory connotation, for the batter who walks off with pride with the adulation of the home crowd).

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”257053″][quote comment=”256941″]Just wondering: Who was the first guy to hit a walk-off homer and do the helmet flip right before crossing homeplate and being mobbed by teammates?

    I think it might have Manny, but it seems like everyone does it now.[/quote]
    I recall somewhere hearing that it was Ortiz during a streak of walk-offs he had a few years ago where he was getting tired of the pounding on his head…but I could be wrong.[/quote]
    Wouldn’t it help to have a helmet on your head in that situation?

  • Stan aka the took | April 30, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    I don’t know how many New Yorkers saw this but on NY1 they had Bloomberg talking about the All Star game in Yankee Stadium and he was presented a American league jersey.

    My description: Navy blue, American on the front with the white arches signature to old Yankee Stadium. Big blockish almost National like looking letters on the back… yeah that works out.

    Any pictures?

  • Bryan Redemske | April 30, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”257085″][quote comment=”257053″][quote comment=”256941″]Just wondering: Who was the first guy to hit a walk-off homer and do the helmet flip right before crossing homeplate and being mobbed by teammates?

    I think it might have Manny, but it seems like everyone does it now.[/quote]
    I recall somewhere hearing that it was Ortiz during a streak of walk-offs he had a few years ago where he was getting tired of the pounding on his head…but I could be wrong.[/quote]
    Wouldn’t it help to have a helmet on your head in that situation?[/quote]

    No, because then they hit you harder.

  • Steve | April 30, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”256956″]Burrell giving the finger was actually from 2007 during the preseason “On-Deck Series” (last 2 games of the preseason that take place at Citizens Bank Park in Philly) against the BoSox.

    He was gesturing across the field to former manager, Terry Francona.[/quote]

    Correct

    Deadspin covered it on 4/1/07. Not sure why it made today’s ticker????

  • Marty Met | April 30, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I whole heartedly agree. LeGarrette Blount made the right choice uniform wise. All the SEC uniforms are so bland.

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”257060″][quote]Nothing wrong with selling booze at a ballpark. We don’t need to kiddie-proof the world.[/quote]

    couldn’t agree more chance…lest you mistook my comment for actually caring (or if it was even directed towards me)

    just attempting (poorly, as it’s really apples to oranges) to point out disney’s hypocracy in selling adult beverages and such (and as someone else pointed out, employing the ‘fun police’), and being all high and mighty about the vanity fair pics of super-hottie miley

    can’t have it both ways, disney…[/quote]

    Loath though I am to disagree with you, I must. Of course they can have it both ways – those are two different divisions of the same massive company, and do not have the same interests nor must they have the same policies.

    Just because one element of the company makes money from childrens’ entertainment doesn’t mean that the entirety of the company must be devoted to childish things.

  • Joey Guns | April 30, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”257002″][quote comment=”256979″]As for the Rays in Disney this year and the lower attendance, I live in/around Orlando, and honestly the advertising for the series wasn’t there this year, last year the advertising was much more prominent, TV, radio, billboards etc. This year I saw maybe two or three TV spots, and the series had come and gone before anyone knew it.[/quote]

    I live between Tampa and Orlando and had no idea the Rays were playing at Disney again this year until I saw the game on TV. They did a terrible job of promoting this year. As for the alcohol choices at the ballpark, it sounds like this year’s choices were alot more inline with what they offer at Braves Spring Training.[/quote]

    Anyone see this comical article about a guy accidentally buying his son a Mike’s Hard Lemonade, and then having the son taken from him by social services for 3 days?

    http://www.mlive.com...

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”257090″]I don’t know how many New Yorkers saw this but on NY1 they had Bloomberg talking about the All Star game in Yankee Stadium and he was presented a American league jersey.

    My description: Navy blue, American on the front with the white arches signature to old Yankee Stadium. Big blockish almost National like looking letters on the back… yeah that works out.

    Any pictures?[/quote]

    Look anything like these tshirts from MLB’s online shop?

  • Mark in Shiga | April 30, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    Although the term originally was coined with a negative connotation, in reference to the pitcher (who must walk off the field with his head hung in shame), it has come to acquire a more celebratory connotation, for the batter who walks off with pride with the adulation of the home crowd).

    I don’t agree with this at all. Everybody knows that the “walking off” is done by the team in the field. The home team is running out of the dugout to congratulate the guy who scored the winning run and the batter who brought him in (same person if it’s a homer). The only ones “walking” are the other guys who have no reason to hurry. The word means just what Eckersley meant when he invented it.

    (And Vince, come on, man — yelling at the base coach for not wearing a helmet? Would you have been in Orlando helping the security guards take the balls away from the kids, too?)

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”257091″][quote comment=”257085″][quote comment=”257053″][quote comment=”256941″]Just wondering: Who was the first guy to hit a walk-off homer and do the helmet flip right before crossing homeplate and being mobbed by teammates?

    I think it might have Manny, but it seems like everyone does it now.[/quote]
    I recall somewhere hearing that it was Ortiz during a streak of walk-offs he had a few years ago where he was getting tired of the pounding on his head…but I could be wrong.[/quote]
    Wouldn’t it help to have a helmet on your head in that situation?[/quote]

    No, because then they hit you harder.[/quote]
    I’ll buy that. Although the helmet toss has now morphed into a celebratory gesture.

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”257113″][quote comment=”257090″]I don’t know how many New Yorkers saw this but on NY1 they had Bloomberg talking about the All Star game in Yankee Stadium and he was presented a American league jersey.

    My description: Navy blue, American on the front with the white arches signature to old Yankee Stadium. Big blockish almost National like looking letters on the back… yeah that works out.

    Any pictures?[/quote]

    Look anything like these tshirts from MLB’s online shop?[/quote]

    Sorry, screwed up the first link – should be this.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote]Loath though I am to disagree with you, I must. Of course they can have it both ways – those are two different divisions of the same massive company, and do not have the same interests nor must they have the same policies.[/quote]

    well, of course they can have it both ways…they’re disney…they can do whatever the f*ck they want

    i know the two divisions are separate and not always in synch…in fact, they’re more than likely at cross-purposes…all they share in common is the desire to make money, and i certainly don’t begrudge them that…not surprisingly, i love nike, mickey d’s and microsoft, and disney (while i’m not a fan) ranks right up there with those big corporations i do like

    i just get more than a little pissed when disney tries to portray itself as this wholesome family values white bread 1950’s throwback (they were shocked, SHOCKED at the annie liebowitz’ pics)…when in reality they’re just the same bunch of money-making salary men that paul and many other liberals love to hate on

    and now [/rant]

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    Yes, but as you note Disney television and Disney Sports (or whoever runs that complex) have little to do with each other.

    You might as well call me a hypocrite for not liking to do something that my cousin does regularly.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 30, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”257116″]Although the term originally was coined with a negative connotation, in reference to the pitcher (who must walk off the field with his head hung in shame), it has come to acquire a more celebratory connotation, for the batter who walks off with pride with the adulation of the home crowd).

    I don’t agree with this at all. Everybody knows that the “walking off” is done by the team in the field. The home team is running out of the dugout to congratulate the guy who scored the winning run and the batter who brought him in (same person if it’s a homer). The only ones “walking” are the other guys who have no reason to hurry. The word means just what Eckersley meant when he invented it.

    (And Vince, come on, man — yelling at the base coach for not wearing a helmet? Would you have been in Orlando helping the security guards take the balls away from the kids, too?)[/quote]

    Okay … I can definitely agree with Eckersley’s definition. From a pitcher’s point of view you’re either walking off the field dejected or celebrating a win. It’s still pretty weak, but I understand it from that point.

  • MPowers1634 | April 30, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”256926″][quote comment=”256917″][quote comment=”256889″]Watching the tigers game last night waiting for the Wings game to come on, and noticed that I think it was the 8th inning when Jeter was up to bat, that the tiger pitcher had his jersey untucked while pitching. The cameras even did a close-up to it.

    Screen shot? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?[/quote]
    I saw that as well. I was trying to figure out if I had ever seen a baseball player with their jersey not tucked (besides after a slide)[/quote]

    here

    not the best pic, but it works[/quote]

    Jim Leyland looks like a manager should!

  • KJ | April 30, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I agree. As a former NCAA football player (under the age of 25) I can tell you that Oregon is ahead of the game on this jersey thing. MANY players and recruits love their kits (present company included) and most kids these days are very brand loyal (Nike, New Era, etc) so I imagine that OU will continue to get atheletes based upon their jerseys. Like it or not…

  • MPowers1634 | April 30, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”256982″][quote comment=”256883″][quote]Disney…had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.[/quote]

    sweet…im guessing everyone takes public transportation to the game and there are no young children present

    and yet, miley cyrus is now a bad role model for the youth[/quote]
    They can’t even let the kids play catch! Geez, it’s a RAYS game for crying out loud![/quote]

    They weren’t allowed to because they were showing up the Rays with their superior ability to throw and catch a baseball.

  • Jim | April 30, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=\”257147\”][quote comment=\”256926\”][quote comment=\”256917\”][quote comment=\”256889\”]Watching the tigers game last night waiting for the Wings game to come on, and noticed that I think it was the 8th inning when Jeter was up to bat, that the tiger pitcher had his jersey untucked while pitching. The cameras even did a close-up to it.

    Screen shot? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?[/quote]
    I saw that as well. I was trying to figure out if I had ever seen a baseball player with their jersey not tucked (besides after a slide)[/quote]

    here

    not the best pic, but it works[/quote]

    Jim Leyland looks like a manager should![/quote]

    How can the tigers have such an awesome home uni and then have that crap as an away uni? Don\’t like \’em at all…

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”257150″][quote comment=”256982″][quote comment=”256883″][quote]Disney…had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.[/quote]

    sweet…im guessing everyone takes public transportation to the game and there are no young children present

    and yet, miley cyrus is now a bad role model for the youth[/quote]
    They can’t even let the kids play catch! Geez, it’s a RAYS game for crying out loud![/quote]

    They weren’t allowed to because they were showing up the Rays with their superior ability to throw and catch a baseball.[/quote]

    matt…have you seen the rays this year?

    they’re ahead of your yanks AND tied with your sox (technically…percentage points ahead of the sox)…and we won’t even delve into how you can be both a sox and yanks fan

  • Bentz | April 30, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    I thought that NBA teams were required to wear the same uniforms throughout the series – so if Phoenix went orange in Game 1, they couldn’t wear purple for that series. Did that just change?

  • Bryan Redemske | April 30, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”257150″][quote comment=”256982″][quote comment=”256883″][quote]Disney…had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.[/quote]

    sweet…im guessing everyone takes public transportation to the game and there are no young children present

    and yet, miley cyrus is now a bad role model for the youth[/quote]
    They can’t even let the kids play catch! Geez, it’s a RAYS game for crying out loud![/quote]

    They weren’t allowed to because they were showing up the Rays with their superior ability to throw and catch a baseball.[/quote]

    You know the Rays are only a game out in the East, right? And with a better record than the Yankees? And just swept the Red Sox?

  • Chad G | April 30, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”257050″]Saw SI’s gallery of Larry Brown’s career. The first picture, linked below, shows him during his playing days at UNC. Is there a story behind the socks? It almost looks like there are slots for a belt of some sort. Also some very funny outfits from his early coaching days are in the gallery.
    http://sportsillustr...

    Those aren’t slots, it is his uniform number “11”. Look at the front of his jersey.

  • James P. | April 30, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”257028″][quote comment=”256990″]Astros wore their road grays for the first time this season last night against the D-Bag…er…D-Backs because the brick red jersey/gray pants would have clashed with the dark red/white pants, and the D-Backs wouldn’t have that…[/quote]
    Yeah, I was watching highlights the other night and couldn’t tell which team was which. I don’t get the color scheme change for either team.[/quote]

    Considering the D-Backs copied the Astros color scheme, I think they should have been the ones that wore something else last night…though it was good to see the road grays being used…

  • Juan Grande | April 30, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”257151″][quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I agree. As a former NCAA football player (under the age of 25) I can tell you that Oregon is ahead of the game on this jersey thing. MANY players and recruits love their kits (present company included) and most kids these days are very brand loyal (Nike, New Era, etc) so I imagine that OU will continue to get atheletes based upon their jerseys. Like it or not…[/quote]

    I played college football too (albeit NAIA not NCAA) but my choice in schools was not based on the uniform but where I had a decent chance of playing and a degree that would be worth something after I graduated. Of course that was in the early 90s. Kids are now “all about me.” I can’t think for a minute that a kid with a decent head on his shoulders (few and far between these days) would choose a school based on some primary-colored uniform verses a school with a football tradition (any of the SEC schools) where you get a chance to play a potential national champ every year? Perhaps the fact I went to a non-NCAA D1 school has skewed my reality. Or maybe it is the grumpy old man portion of being 35 is coming out.

    I’m not a SEC fan but I’d rather eat BBQ and drink sweet tea any day than eat granola and wear socks with birkenstocks.

  • Joe | April 30, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”257187″]Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??[/quote]

    And no link to the story?

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”257187″]Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??[/quote]

    i thought the same thing too, until i re-read the passage…it merely says they “borrowed” the unis, it never said they PLAYED each other…they were prolly playing the CUBS since, the train from cincy would have been going to chi-town and the cubs were likely their opponent…

    lemme do some research and see if i can find their opponent on this date

  • Juan Grande | April 30, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”257166″][quote comment=”257150″][quote comment=”256982″][quote comment=”256883″][quote]Disney…had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.[/quote]

    sweet…im guessing everyone takes public transportation to the game and there are no young children present

    and yet, miley cyrus is now a bad role model for the youth[/quote]
    They can’t even let the kids play catch! Geez, it’s a RAYS game for crying out loud![/quote]

    They weren’t allowed to because they were showing up the Rays with their superior ability to throw and catch a baseball.[/quote]

    You know the Rays are only a game out in the East, right? And with a better record than the Yankees? And just swept the Red Sox?[/quote]

    I live just north of St. Petersburg. If you opened the sports page, watched the local news, or listened to local sports radio I don’t know how you’d miss that the Rays were in Orlando. There was good talk about this series even back during spring training. They may not have rented the Goodyear blimp or held a parade but if you paid any attention to Rays news you’d know about the series.

    As a Red Sox fan in attendance at all three games I was pissed over the sweep. Buchholtz and Beckett pitched great games but there was just no hitting. But, after living in Raleigh, NC for the last 10 years, I became a decents Rays fan because I saw nearly all of them play for the Durham Bulls. It was good to see them perform as they are capable of. Just not against my BoSox.

  • Jim | April 30, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”257187″]Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??[/quote]

    Not uni related so excuse me, but how does expansion work in the MLB? How do they decide which league the team goes in? NBA and NHL it is just location (east and West), but with the different leagues having different rules, how do they decise what league they will be place in?

  • Joey Guns | April 30, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”257120″][quote comment=”257113″][quote comment=”257090″]I don’t know how many New Yorkers saw this but on NY1 they had Bloomberg talking about the All Star game in Yankee Stadium and he was presented a American league jersey.

    My description: Navy blue, American on the front with the white arches signature to old Yankee Stadium. Big blockish almost National like looking letters on the back… yeah that works out.

    Any pictures?[/quote]

    Look anything like these tshirts from MLB’s online shop?[/quote]

    Sorry, screwed up the first link – should be this.[/quote]

    He held up a jersey, not a t-shirt. It was customized with “BLOOMBERG 08” on the back.

    http://cityroom.blog...

    http://www.ny1.com/n...

    He also joked about burying it under Fenway, which doesn’t make sense, because it’s an all-star jersey, not a Yankees jersey……

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 11:53 am |

    well well well…

    here it is

    first dated item…they played the cubs, as i suspected…and there’s your link, chance ;)

  • Kek | April 30, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”257151″][quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I agree. As a former NCAA football player (under the age of 25) I can tell you that Oregon is ahead of the game on this jersey thing. MANY players and recruits love their kits (present company included) and most kids these days are very brand loyal (Nike, New Era, etc) so I imagine that OU will continue to get atheletes based upon their jerseys. Like it or not…[/quote]
    This was one of the reasons I thought Oregon had a legit shot at Terrelle Pryor. These loud uniforms already get enough pub, but can you imagine the #1 recruit in the nation and the most highly touted recruit in the last 25 years (at least) would be sporting those jerseys. I know Oregon jersey sales in western PA and eastern OH would have spiked. Most likely throughout the country they would have sold a lot of that number jersey.

    I’m kind of over trashing Oregon’s unis. I guess they’re just not as bad as they were at first glance. My advice to them would be lay off the yellow and go more with the white. I actually think the all-white ensemble with the white helmet is a very sharp uni. I only wish the nameplates were darker. You can’t read that silver.

  • Ben P. | April 30, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    Interesting Uni note from Ken Griffey Jr. after last night’s Reds/Cardinals game. ACcording to the ESPN recap:

    “Ken Griffey Jr., who needs three homers to become the sixth player to reach 600, was 0-for-4 and hasn’t homered in six games. He was misidentified on a scoreboard graphic his first at-bat, with a different Reds left-handed hitter that might have been Dan Driessen shown instead, although in subsequent at-bats his mug shot was used.

    Griffey thought it might have been Norris Hopper with the image reversed and noted, “I haven’t worn Franklin batting gloves since ’92.” Team spokesman Rob Butcher guessed that it was Dewayne Wise, who played for the Reds the previous two seasons, in a spring training game.”

    Anyone know of any pictures of this event?

  • Jamie Nelson | April 30, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    I attended a Sacramento River Cats (A’s) and Omaha royals (KC) game the other night and every,I mean every one, in an Omaha uni sported high socks and stirrups…yahoo! does anyone know if they do this as a matter of course or was I just one of 6,000 lucky fans?

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote]Ken Griffey Jr., who needs three homers to become the sixth player to reach 600[/quote]

    but only the fourth to do it without cheating

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”257203″]well well well…

    here it is

    first dated item…they played the cubs, as i suspected…and there’s your link, chance ;)[/quote]
    Damn, Phil. You’re good.

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    “Walk-off homer” does, in fact, refer to the losers doing the walking. Always has. The phrase has become bastardized to be used with “walk-off single,” “walk-off-double,” etc. (I’m waiting for the first bases-loaded walk in a tie game in the bottom of the ninth to be called a “walk-off walk.”)

    It has nothing to do with the player who does the deed, who must, as we all know, at least touch first in some manner (walking, running, crawling, whatever). Never has.

    And Disney the company keeps its separate interests separate? Wow. It’s cool to be naive, I guess.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 30, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”257151″][quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I agree. As a former NCAA football player (under the age of 25) I can tell you that Oregon is ahead of the game on this jersey thing. MANY players and recruits love their kits (present company included) and most kids these days are very brand loyal (Nike, New Era, etc) so I imagine that OU will continue to get atheletes based upon their jerseys. Like it or not…[/quote]

    So … are you saying that one of the primary reasons that a high school football player picks a college is the uniform? Does that mean that the more original/outlandish/creative/garish uniform a school can create the better their recruiting class will be? It doesn’t make sense to me, but, then again, I’m not 18 years old and haven’t been for a long, long time.

  • Vince Grzegorek | April 30, 2008 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”257221″][quote comment=”257203″]well well well…

    here it is

    first dated item…they played the cubs, as i suspected…and there’s your link, chance ;)[/quote]
    Damn, Phil. You’re good.[/quote]

    Sorry if I didn’t make that clear in the ticker.

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”257199″][quote comment=”257120″][quote comment=”257113″][quote comment=”257090″]I don’t know how many New Yorkers saw this but on NY1 they had Bloomberg talking about the All Star game in Yankee Stadium and he was presented a American league jersey.

    My description: Navy blue, American on the front with the white arches signature to old Yankee Stadium. Big blockish almost National like looking letters on the back… yeah that works out.

    Any pictures?[/quote]

    Look anything like these tshirts from MLB’s online shop?[/quote]

    Sorry, screwed up the first link – should be this.[/quote]

    He held up a jersey, not a t-shirt.

    It was customized with “BLOOMBERG 08” on the back.

    http://cityroom.blog...

    http://www.ny1.com/n...

    Yeah, I get that, I was wondering if the wordmark across the front was the same as the navy t-shirts they’ve been selling. Since it was, we can presume that the National League versions will look like that gray t-shirt.

  • Robert | April 30, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    These ballpark rankings, based on a poll of the fans, are certainly interesting.

    http://sportsillustr...

    There should be a category for whether fans approve of their hometown team’s uniforms, however. As we all know, bad uniforms can taint an otherwise enjoyable visit to the ballpark.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”257251″]These ballpark rankings, based on a poll of the fans, are certainly interesting.

    http://sportsillustr...

    There should be a category for whether fans approve of their hometown team’s uniforms, however. As we all know, bad uniforms can taint an otherwise enjoyable visit to the ballpark.[/quote]

    mets are 28th out of 30…and the nats (who now have a beautiful new park) and fish (who play in a football stadium whose team is owned by their ex-owner and who wants them out…not to mention 95 & humid from mid-may thru september–but…who are also getting a new park…sometime) are the only ones lower

    i, for one, cannot wait until our new cathedral is complete…i welcome the corporate overlords from citi…shea was great…once…44 years ago…its time to move out of the cellar of the nl east ballpark race

  • teamcinnamon | April 30, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=\”257197\”][quote comment=\”257187\”]Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??[/quote]

    Not uni related so excuse me, but how does expansion work in the MLB? How do they decide which league the team goes in? NBA and NHL it is just location (east and West), but with the different leagues having different rules, how do they decise what league they will be place in?[/quote]

    I don\’t think MLB has much of a formula, although it would most likely involve what other teams are closest grographically, I would think.

    Other than the Rays, there hasn\’t been an AL expansion team since the Mariners/Blue Jays in 1977.

    So, of course, they couldn\’t be put in the same division as the Marlins so they were sentenced to eternal damnation by being put in w/NY, Boston, Baltimore and Toronto.

    I think the MLB is in desperate need of another realignment.. it\’s like the West in the NBA, the AL has been ridiculously dominant. Some people say that it\’s because of the DH, which I agree with, but Selig doesn\’t want to either let it go or make it standard due to tradition.

  • Kek | April 30, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”257230″][quote comment=”257151″][quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I agree. As a former NCAA football player (under the age of 25) I can tell you that Oregon is ahead of the game on this jersey thing. MANY players and recruits love their kits (present company included) and most kids these days are very brand loyal (Nike, New Era, etc) so I imagine that OU will continue to get atheletes based upon their jerseys. Like it or not…[/quote]

    So … are you saying that one of the primary reasons that a high school football player picks a college is the uniform? Does that mean that the more original/outlandish/creative/garish uniform a school can create the better their recruiting class will be? It doesn’t make sense to me, but, then again, I’m not 18 years old and haven’t been for a long, long time.[/quote]
    You have to be at least semi-successful. It’s not like Duke can revamp their kits and get blue chip recruits to play football there.

    But it probably is an added bonus for a program like Oregon to have in their arsenal.

    I know it’s hard for some of us that are getting up there in age to stomach because we think Oregon is outlandish but I’m sure through the years in the past, some of the classic unis like ND, PSU, SC, etc had admirers. People equate that gold helmet with the Irish and players played with pride for them.

    Granted Oregon has a long way to go as far as establishing a program on a national level, but if their administration thinks their unis can help them recruit, more power to them.

    I see my hometown Steelers selected Dennis Dixon late in the second day. There was some buzz about him making some plays like Randle El did from the WR position possibly.

    But if you ask me, he’ll be cut like Omar Jacobs from Bowling Green was a few years ago. I think NFL scouts are seeing that these spread offense QBs aren’t quite ready for primetime

  • Kevin | April 30, 2008 at 12:41 pm |

    I was looking at yesterday’s pictures of the Texas A&M prostate cancer thing and saw that Missouri was wearing Under Armour baseball unis. That begged the question: How many schools are sponsored by one company in one sport and another company in a different sport? Most of the Mizzou gear is Nike if I am not mistaken, so you think the contract with Nike would be through the school and would involve all sports. Let’s get a little continuity.

  • James P. | April 30, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”257251″]These ballpark rankings, based on a poll of the fans, are certainly interesting.

    http://sportsillustr...

    There should be a category for whether fans approve of their hometown team’s uniforms, however. As we all know, bad uniforms can taint an otherwise enjoyable visit to the ballpark.[/quote]

    I want to know who voted. Reading some of the negatives for a few of the teams makes me wonder if that person EVER SET FOOT IN THE DAMN STADIUM!

  • Patrick | April 30, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”257251″]These ballpark rankings, based on a poll of the fans, are certainly interesting.

    http://sportsillustr...

    There should be a category for whether fans approve of their hometown team’s uniforms, however. As we all know, bad uniforms can taint an otherwise enjoyable visit to the ballpark.[/quote]

    Interesting to see venerable old Anaheim Stadium up there at 9 and Kauffman at 11.

    Also interesting – number 27, the Rangers. That’s the lowest ranking for any of the new retro ballparks. The remote location, and the perpetual suck-itude of the Rangers aside, no stadium in the majors could have benefited more from the presence of a roof.

  • Ray | April 30, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    AWESOME!!! That’s how it looks. Fellow Uni Watch contributor Joe Hilseberg http://farm1.static....

    just left me a custom made Jersey NameFrame that I ordered as a graduation gift for my son. If you recall Paul featured Joe & his new company a few weeks ago in this column http://www.uniwatchb...
    Joe did a fantastic job and had the jersey mounted and framed in a few weeks and even delivered it personally. He’s a great guy and has a super product. If you are interested in your own, this is the web site http://jerseynamefra...

  • Kevin | April 30, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”257186″][quote comment=”257151″][quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I agree. As a former NCAA football player (under the age of 25) I can tell you that Oregon is ahead of the game on this jersey thing. MANY players and recruits love their kits (present company included) and most kids these days are very brand loyal (Nike, New Era, etc) so I imagine that OU will continue to get atheletes based upon their jerseys. Like it or not…[/quote]

    I played college football too (albeit NAIA not NCAA) but my choice in schools was not based on the uniform but where I had a decent chance of playing and a degree that would be worth something after I graduated. Of course that was in the early 90s. Kids are now “all about me.” I can’t think for a minute that a kid with a decent head on his shoulders (few and far between these days) would choose a school based on some primary-colored uniform verses a school with a football tradition (any of the SEC schools) where you get a chance to play a potential national champ every year? Perhaps the fact I went to a non-NCAA D1 school has skewed my reality. Or maybe it is the grumpy old man portion of being 35 is coming out.

    I’m not a SEC fan but I’d rather eat BBQ and drink sweet tea any day than eat granola and wear socks with birkenstocks.[/quote]

    I just didn’t get the feeling from the article that he was real concerned about his education. It’s a football factory and there is a reason this guy wasn’t playing for Auburn right out of high school. He didn’t have the grades.

    As far as this all goes, I like the idea of sharp, ever-changing unis from schools like Miami and Oregon and I like that some teams like Oklahoma and Notre Dame would never revamp their style. My only complaint is Penn State. Let’s get out of those practice gear threads and put just a splash of color or maybe go nuts and put a decal on your helmet.

  • MPowers1634 | April 30, 2008 at 12:54 pm |
  • joe | April 30, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”257187″]Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??[/quote]
    The reds layed the cubs in borrowed white sox uniforms.

  • Banker Bill | April 30, 2008 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”257058″]There is no such thing as a ‘walk-off’ homer, single, or anything else. ‘Walk-off’ implies that the batter hits the ball and just walks to the dugout. Well, if you walk to the dugout you can’t reach first base. Therefore, no single, double, triple homer or anything else. And, if the score is tied and the batter hits one out of the park he can’t just walk into the dugout. He HAS to touch ’em all. The only way I’ll accept any of this is with a ‘walk-off’ home run where the batter doesn’t have to round the bases to get the win.

    Okay … sorry … had to get that off my chest. It’s just a pet peeve of mine.

    Now … back to your regularly scheduled UniWatch discussions.[/quote]

    Rick, walk off refers to the FIELDERS walking off after the play, at least that would make better sense of the term.

  • MPowers1634 | April 30, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”257166″][quote comment=”257150″][quote comment=”256982″][quote comment=”256883″][quote]Disney…had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.[/quote]

    sweet…im guessing everyone takes public transportation to the game and there are no young children present

    and yet, miley cyrus is now a bad role model for the youth[/quote]
    They can’t even let the kids play catch! Geez, it’s a RAYS game for crying out loud![/quote]

    They weren’t allowed to because they were showing up the Rays with their superior ability to throw and catch a baseball.[/quote]

    You know the Rays are only a game out in the East, right? And with a better record than the Yankees? And just swept the Red Sox?[/quote]

    Begrudgingly, I do know. However, it was too fun to pass up on considering their past record of futility!

  • Mike | April 30, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    dont forget that Oregon has amazing facilities for their athletes. having a nike guy as alum really helps.

  • Adam | April 30, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”257197″]
    Not uni related so excuse me, but how does expansion work in the MLB? How do they decide which league the team goes in? NBA and NHL it is just location (east and West), but with the different leagues having different rules, how do they decise what league they will be place in?[/quote]

    Well, until recently (the last decade or so), the two leagues were officially separate entities, with their own presidents, and for a long time they used to run pretty independently. In one of Bill Veeck’s books, he talks about (early) expansion, and IIRC the two leagues basically competed with each other for the best cities. Now, the two leagues are no more, it’s all run as one big league, and I think the decision last time was just made based on where they thought they’d fit better. I doubt they wanted two National League teams in Florida, which probably determined Tampa going there. If they expand again, I assume it will be in the (smaller) American League.

  • joe | April 30, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”257272″][quote comment=\”257197\”][quote comment=\”257187\”]Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??[/quote]

    Not uni related so excuse me, but how does expansion work in the MLB? How do they decide which league the team goes in? NBA and NHL it is just location (east and West), but with the different leagues having different rules, how do they decise what league they will be place in?[/quote]

    I don\’t think MLB has much of a formula, although it would most likely involve what other teams are closest grographically, I would think.

    Other than the Rays, there hasn\’t been an AL expansion team since the Mariners/Blue Jays in 1977.

    So, of course, they couldn\’t be put in the same division as the Marlins so they were sentenced to eternal damnation by being put in w/NY, Boston, Baltimore and Toronto.

    I think the MLB is in desperate need of another realignment.. it\’s like the West in the NBA, the AL has been ridiculously dominant. Some people say that it\’s because of the DH, which I agree with, but Selig doesn\’t want to either let it go or make it standard due to tradition.[/quote]

    you dont realign because one league is dominating, if they did that they would have had to align not long ago when the NL was beating the snot out of the Al for like 18/20 years

  • Joey Guns | April 30, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    DeShawn Stevenson wearing a Michael Vick jersey the other day……..

    http://blog.washingt...

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”257298″][quote comment=”257187″]Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??[/quote]
    The reds layed the cubs in borrowed white sox uniforms.[/quote]
    Typo of the day, right there.

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”257299″][quote comment=”257058″]There is no such thing as a ‘walk-off’ homer, single, or anything else. ‘Walk-off’ implies that the batter hits the ball and just walks to the dugout. Well, if you walk to the dugout you can’t reach first base. Therefore, no single, double, triple homer or anything else. And, if the score is tied and the batter hits one out of the park he can’t just walk into the dugout. He HAS to touch ’em all. The only way I’ll accept any of this is with a ‘walk-off’ home run where the batter doesn’t have to round the bases to get the win.

    Okay … sorry … had to get that off my chest. It’s just a pet peeve of mine.

    Now … back to your regularly scheduled UniWatch discussions.[/quote]

    Rick, walk off refers to the FIELDERS walking off after the play, at least that would make better sense of the term.[/quote]

    Yeah, but that doesn’t make much sense either. The fielders walk off the same whether the other team hits a home run or has the final run walked in.

    The term makes most sense when applied to the pitcher (who can only respond to giving up the homer by walking off the mound), or the batter (who has just finished the game, perfunctory bases trip notwithstanding).

  • Brendon | April 30, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”256895″][quote comment=”256881″]A Quick Aside: If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me. Seattle’s Eddie Rodriguez was manning first base with just a hat, and being only six rows behind home plate, I decided I could make a difference. Apologies to all children in that section, as my language was not quite as proper as I portrayed it here.
    Is it me or do the moderators (both the fill in and the actual owner) have a little ego problems?[/quote]

    It’s just you…[/quote]

    Agreed

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 30, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”257293″]Intentional???[/quote]

    Intentional meaning did they mean to make it look like a guy was competing against women?

  • spencer | April 30, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”257291″][quote comment=”257186″][quote comment=”257151″][quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I agree. As a former NCAA football player (under the age of 25) I can tell you that Oregon is ahead of the game on this jersey thing. MANY players and recruits love their kits (present company included) and most kids these days are very brand loyal (Nike, New Era, etc) so I imagine that OU will continue to get atheletes based upon their jerseys. Like it or not…[/quote]

    I played college football too (albeit NAIA not NCAA) but my choice in schools was not based on the uniform but where I had a decent chance of playing and a degree that would be worth something after I graduated. Of course that was in the early 90s. Kids are now “all about me.” I can’t think for a minute that a kid with a decent head on his shoulders (few and far between these days) would choose a school based on some primary-colored uniform verses a school with a football tradition (any of the SEC schools) where you get a chance to play a potential national champ every year? Perhaps the fact I went to a non-NCAA D1 school has skewed my reality. Or maybe it is the grumpy old man portion of being 35 is coming out.

    I’m not a SEC fan but I’d rather eat BBQ and drink sweet tea any day than eat granola and wear socks with birkenstocks.[/quote]

    I just didn’t get the feeling from the article that he was real concerned about his education. It’s a football factory and there is a reason this guy wasn’t playing for Auburn right out of high school. He didn’t have the grades.

    As far as this all goes, I like the idea of sharp, ever-changing unis from schools like Miami and Oregon and I like that some teams like Oklahoma and Notre Dame would never revamp their style. My only complaint is Penn State. Let’s get out of those practice gear threads and put just a splash of color or maybe go nuts and put a decal on your helmet.[/quote]

    I like some of the classic uniforms, but some are just boring or there are tons that looks the same.(like Alabama with the numbers on the helmets) The fact the the uniforms are unique is part of what makes them great, as well as the color choice. If you have the choice of two schools, and don’t care about your education it makes sense to chose the one with the better unis and one that gets more press. Oregon’s program is now on a national level, weather you want to admit it or not. I hate how all the schools are now switching to the generic nike/under armor jerseys for a few extra bucks.

    A unique uni is better then a generic one with different colors.

  • Kris Fulton | April 30, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”257324″][quote comment=”257299″][quote comment=”257058″]There is no such thing as a ‘walk-off’ homer, single, or anything else. ‘Walk-off’ implies that the batter hits the ball and just walks to the dugout. Well, if you walk to the dugout you can’t reach first base. Therefore, no single, double, triple homer or anything else. And, if the score is tied and the batter hits one out of the park he can’t just walk into the dugout. He HAS to touch ’em all. The only way I’ll accept any of this is with a ‘walk-off’ home run where the batter doesn’t have to round the bases to get the win.

    Okay … sorry … had to get that off my chest. It’s just a pet peeve of mine.

    Now … back to your regularly scheduled UniWatch discussions.[/quote]

    Rick, walk off refers to the FIELDERS walking off after the play, at least that would make better sense of the term.[/quote]

    Yeah, but that doesn’t make much sense either. The fielders walk off the same whether the other team hits a home run or has the final run walked in.

    The term makes most sense when applied to the pitcher (who can only respond to giving up the homer by walking off the mound), or the batter (who has just finished the game, perfunctory bases trip notwithstanding).[/quote]

    I don’t agree with that at all – haven’t you ever seen outfielders immediately begin walking off the field when a ball is hit safely, or hit out, rather than pursuing the ball? A walk-off situation is a much different reaction from the team on the field than that play would otherwise provoke in any other game situation. Yes, they walk off the same regardless of the offensive play, but the term refers to the situation.

  • MPowers1634 | April 30, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”257327″][quote comment=”257293″]Intentional???[/quote]

    Intentional meaning did they mean to make it look like a guy was competing against women?[/quote]

    Here’s a link to the pic on their webpage! Perhaps now it will look more out of place.

  • teamcinnamon | April 30, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”257311″][quote comment=”257272″][quote comment=\”257197\”][quote comment=\”257187\”]Brian Rockwood notes that on April 29, 1913, the Reds had to wear uniforms borrowed from the White Sox because the equipment managers forgot to load the uni’s on the train. It didn’t help the Reds that day, as they lost 7-2.

    The Reds and White Sox played each other in 1913??? I find that hard to believe, unless interleague play did happen back then. Anyone else??[/quote]

    Not uni related so excuse me, but how does expansion work in the MLB? How do they decide which league the team goes in? NBA and NHL it is just location (east and West), but with the different leagues having different rules, how do they decise what league they will be place in?[/quote]

    I don\’t think MLB has much of a formula, although it would most likely involve what other teams are closest grographically, I would think.

    Other than the Rays, there hasn\’t been an AL expansion team since the Mariners/Blue Jays in 1977.

    So, of course, they couldn\’t be put in the same division as the Marlins so they were sentenced to eternal damnation by being put in w/NY, Boston, Baltimore and Toronto.

    I think the MLB is in desperate need of another realignment.. it\’s like the West in the NBA, the AL has been ridiculously dominant. Some people say that it\’s because of the DH, which I agree with, but Selig doesn\’t want to either let it go or make it standard due to tradition.[/quote]

    you dont realign because one league is dominating, if they did that they would have had to align not long ago when the NL was beating the snot out of the Al for like 18/20 years[/quote]

    Get rid of the DH then. Even the playing field.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 30, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”257361″][quote comment=”257327″][quote comment=”257293″]Intentional???[/quote]

    Intentional meaning did they mean to make it look like a guy was competing against women?[/quote]

    Here’s a link to the pic on their webpage! Perhaps now it will look more out of place.[/quote]

    Okay, now I get it. The young lady with the javelin is trying to kill the young lady running beside the javelin girl’s boyfriend.

  • Mark in Shiga | April 30, 2008 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”257324″]
    The term makes most sense when applied to the pitcher (who can only respond to giving up the homer by walking off the mound), or the batter (who has just finished the game, perfunctory bases trip notwithstanding).[/quote]

    It doesn’t apply to the batter at all. Only the pitcher (as Eck invented it) and the rest of the people on his team, who walk dejectedly off the field. Had they retired the home team’s hitters with the lead, they’d be running off happily, and with the game tied, they’d be jogging off in preparation to go up and hit. The only walking done on a baseball field (nickname for a “base on balls” aside) is when the game is finished in sudden death and the losing team trudges back to their dugout. At all other times people are fired up and jogging or running.

  • chance | April 30, 2008 at 2:26 pm |

    It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.

  • Mark in Shiga | April 30, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    OK, I just thought of an exception. If the home team gets some runners on base in the bottom of the 9th but comes up short and loses on a strikeout, I suppose those baserunners would be “walking off” the field as well.

    But the word “walkoff” was invented for the pitcher in a sudden death loss.

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”257277″]I was looking at yesterday’s pictures of the Texas A&M prostate cancer thing and saw that Missouri was wearing Under Armour baseball unis. That begged the question: How many schools are sponsored by one company in one sport and another company in a different sport? [/quote]

    Florida’s soccer team is outfitted by adidas, while the football and presumably most other teams are Nike teams.

    Come to think of it, the soccer team is also different for its orange uniforms. Florida teams all used to wear Orange (starting in the late 1970s – they were blue “back in the day”) before the football team returned to blue when Steve Spurrier took over (they had worn blue when he played).

  • Andy | April 30, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me.

    That’s funny………to people who frequent this site, but odd/ridiculous to the average ticket holder. (I’m assuming you were yelling it as a joke and weren’t seriously concerned for the safety of the coach…)
    Kind of like yelling an inside joke to a friend across the room at a party. You get it…your friend gets it…but everyone else gives you curious looks and thinks to themselves that you must be some sort of moron.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 30, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”257434″]If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me.

    That’s funny………to people who frequent this site, but odd/ridiculous to the average ticket holder. (I’m assuming you were yelling it as a joke and weren’t seriously concerned for the safety of the coach…)
    Kind of like yelling an inside joke to a friend across the room at a party. You get it…your friend gets it…but everyone else gives you curious looks and thinks to themselves that you must be some sort of moron.[/quote]

    actually it’s funny to everyone

    except of course…you

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.[/quote]

    His act is referred to as a “walk-off home run.”

    The derivation of that is the opposing team walking (dejectedly) off the field in reaction to the action, often immediately when it is clear the ball has left the yard and Elvis has left the building.

    It’s not as applicable on, say, a single that scores the winning run from second in a tie game in the bottom of the ninth, because there will (often) be a play at the plate or some attempt to prevent the winning run from scoring.

    When the act is sudden (like a home run, or, in a less-appropriate case, a single over a drawn-in infield that easily scores the winner from third without the chance of a throw), that’s a “walk-off (whatever).”

    Get it now?

  • Bryan Redemske | April 30, 2008 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”257435″][quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.[/quote]

    The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote]When the act is sudden (like…a single over a drawn-in infield that easily scores the winner from third without the chance of a throw), that’s a “walk-off (whatever).”[/quote]

    or what david wright did to the bucs last night…as the x-man watched (didn’t move) while wright lofted a soft fly (but deep enough to score a runner from third with less than two outs) as it drifted near the foul line…

    it caught the outside of the foul (actually FAIR, as a foul-pole is similarly misnamed) line and the runner on third walked home…and the fielders walked off…a ‘walk-off single’ as the ESPN and SNY announcers immediately proclaimed

    and…much like the yankees are NOT doing with “21”…can we retire this subject now?

  • Kek | April 30, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    I know there are some McFarlane collectors in here, but I wonder if anyone is into the custom side of it (either buying them or making them)

    Personally, I don’t get it. As a collector, I have some figures on a wall in my basement, I prefer the authentic figures.

    Furthermore, I can’t see paying this kind of money for what will no doubt be inaccurate figures. For example, I found these on ebay of the Steelers’ first and second round picks:

    Rashard Mendenhall

    Limas Sweed

    Neither of those guys will sport those numbers in the pros. Plus, as a collector, you don’t whether the pick’s going to pan out or bust.

    Now, that all being said, I think the artistic ability to create these pieces is really something else. I think it would be a cool gift to a HS student that played to have a custom made figure.

  • Andy | April 30, 2008 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”257441″][quote comment=”257434″]If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me.

    That’s funny………to people who frequent this site, but odd/ridiculous to the average ticket holder. (I’m assuming you were yelling it as a joke and weren’t seriously concerned for the safety of the coach…)
    Kind of like yelling an inside joke to a friend across the room at a party. You get it…your friend gets it…but everyone else gives you curious looks and thinks to themselves that you must be some sort of moron.[/quote]

    actually it’s funny to everyone

    except of course…you[/quote]

    It’s like getting seats behind a dugout and yelling, “Nice radially arched nameplates, guys! Why don’t you grow up and switch to vertically arched!” …and then looking around for someone to high-five but realizing that no one around you has a clue what you’re talking about and so you make a mental note to let your uni-watch buddies know about your put-down so that you can get some props tomorrow morning.

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”257453″]The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.[/quote]

    [Shatner]I can get behind that.[/Shatner]

    Okay, paraphrasing, but whatever.

  • Tim | April 30, 2008 at 3:08 pm |

    Green Caps: Symbolizing their commitment, the entire Phillies team will wear green baseball caps as they take on the San Diego Padres tonight (April 30) at 7:05 p.m.

    Link

  • Mike Edgerly | April 30, 2008 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”257453″][quote comment=”257435″][quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.[/quote]

    The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.[/quote]
    Can we make a list and add “Going Yard” to it?

  • warren thompson | April 30, 2008 at 3:20 pm |

    Anent changes in college football uniforms: over the years, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and Penn State have had some modifications. At one time, ND sported UCLA shoulder stripes, Oklahoma had white helmets and Northwestern sleeve stripes, and Penn State once had [gasp!] helmet numerals.

  • Kek | April 30, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”257470″][quote comment=”257441″][quote comment=”257434″]If during the second or third inning of last night’s Indians versus Mariners game you heard some dude yelling, “Get a helmet on that first base coach!”, that was me.

    That’s funny………to people who frequent this site, but odd/ridiculous to the average ticket holder. (I’m assuming you were yelling it as a joke and weren’t seriously concerned for the safety of the coach…)
    Kind of like yelling an inside joke to a friend across the room at a party. You get it…your friend gets it…but everyone else gives you curious looks and thinks to themselves that you must be some sort of moron.[/quote]

    actually it’s funny to everyone

    except of course…you[/quote]

    It’s like getting seats behind a dugout and yelling, “Nice radially arched nameplates, guys! Why don’t you grow up and switch to vertically arched!” …and then looking around for someone to high-five but realizing that no one around you has a clue what you’re talking about and so you make a mental note to let your uni-watch buddies know about your put-down so that you can get some props tomorrow morning.[/quote]
    The first year of interleague play (I think) I was at a Pirates’ game at Three Rivers against Detroit (I think). There’s a guy all game yelling “BAN 6.10! BAN 6.10!” We’re all like “what the hell are you talking about?”

    Dude SNAPS at us “IT’S THE DH RULE, COME ON MAN!”.

    I quipped back “sorry, i don’t carry the MLB rule book in my shirt pocket”.

    Baseball geeks are a different kind of geek!!!!

  • QualityStarts | April 30, 2008 at 3:29 pm |

    KT, I disagree. A “walk off (whatever)” is simply the hit that ends the game. For instance we can use your example of the single that scores a game winning rbi in the bottom of the ninth. It is a walk off single since the game is now over.

  • jmart | April 30, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    I was watching the Chelsea Liverpool Champions League semi-final and the Chelsea manager had a black armband on the right sleeve of his jacket during the game (no pic) anyone know what this is for?

  • jere | April 30, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    I covered the Burrell bird at the time, too. If nothing else, the shot I grabbed doesn’t have that big digital timeline thing over it. (It’s funny, though, how my shot is nearly the exact frame, with the finger positioned slightly differently.

  • Roboduck | April 30, 2008 at 3:44 pm |

    The University of Oregon, is UO, not OU…..We’re not in the Big XII

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    Man. All I did was ask about the helmet flip after a game-winning homerun and ignited a ‘walk-off’ firestorm.

    Sorry, guys.

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 30, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”257467″]I know there are some McFarlane collectors in here, but I wonder if anyone is into the custom side of it (either buying them or making them)

    Personally, I don’t get it. As a collector, I have some figures on a wall in my basement, I prefer the authentic figures.

    Furthermore, I can’t see paying this kind of money for what will no doubt be inaccurate figures. For example, I found these on ebay of the Steelers’ first and second round picks:

    Rashard Mendenhall

    Limas Sweed

    Neither of those guys will sport those numbers in the pros. Plus, as a collector, you don’t whether the pick’s going to pan out or bust.

    Now, that all being said, I think the artistic ability to create these pieces is really something else. I think it would be a cool gift to a HS student that played to have a custom made figure.[/quote]
    Damn skippy! Look at the Brian Brohm figure – that’s Aaron Rodger’s number, and Brohm won’t wear that in the pros, right? Or maybe…….nah

  • Mike Edgerly | April 30, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    Interesting cycling jersey colors from the Tour of Romandie. It being Switzerland, Michael Albasini slipped his lime green team vest over his pink king of the mountains jersey. (at left in photo). My wife wouldn’t let me out the door in that!

  • Kris Fulton | April 30, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”257498″]I was watching the Chelsea Liverpool Champions League semi-final and the Chelsea manager had a black armband on the right sleeve of his jacket during the game (no pic) anyone know what this is for?[/quote]

    The recent passing of Frank Lampard’s mother, I expect. This would have been Lampard’s first game back – he missed the match on the weekend.

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”257496″]KT, I disagree. A “walk off (whatever)” is simply the hit that ends the game. For instance we can use your example of the single that scores a game winning rbi in the bottom of the ninth. It is a walk off single since the game is now over.[/quote]

    That’s your opinion and that’s fine.

    It just doesn’t fit the etymology of the term.

    If the winning run is on second and someone singles to the outfield, chances are there’s going to be a play at the plate. The fielders (likely) won’t just give up and concede the run and the game.

    Sid Bream did NOT, in the spirit of the term, score on a “walk-off single” by Francisco Cabrera, even though it was the game-winning hit in the bottom of the ninth. Because the game wasn’t over as soon as Cabrera hit the ball and it landed fair. There was a play at the plate. A fairly famous play.

    Kirk Gibson’s home run – that’s a walk-off home run. Most “walk-off” whatevers are home runs. There are also those singles that go through a drawn-in infield or go deep down the line or over the head of an outfielder and fall in fair and obviously score the game-winning run without a play from the defense.

    Sure, you could call any game-winning play (hit, error, sac fly, bases-loaded walk, gork, home run) a “walk-off” whatever, but it wouldn’t go along with either the derivation or the spirit of the term as it was originally intended. Which is why “walk-off single” is a bit dodgy and “walk-off-walk” would be frigging ridiculous.

    I deal with words for a living and am fascinated by etymology (sports etymology is a particularly interesting subset). When you look at how the term came to be and what its original intent was, you can’t really equate the “any game-winning event” with “walk-off.”

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”257513″]The University of Oregon, is UO, not OU…..We’re not in the Big XII[/quote]

    you say that like it’s a good thing

    oh..wait

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”257513″]The University of Oregon, is UO, not OU…..We’re not in the Big XII[/quote]
    Go play intramurals, brother.

  • Walaitis | April 30, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”257488″][quote comment=”257453″][quote comment=”257435″][quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.[/quote]

    The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.[/quote]
    Can we make a list and add “Going Yard” to it?[/quote]

    That all depends, in exchange, can we bring Keith Olberman back to ESPN to resurrect “he hit the ball real hard” as a permenant fixture to Sportscenter?

  • Kris Fulton | April 30, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”257523″]Interesting cycling jersey colors from the Tour of Romandie. It being Switzerland, Michael Albasini slipped his lime green team vest over his pink king of the mountains jersey. (at left in photo). My wife wouldn’t let me out the door in that![/quote]

    But the lower sleeves are green as well…

  • GoTerriers | April 30, 2008 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”257528″][quote comment=”257496″]KT, I disagree. A “walk off (whatever)” is simply the hit that ends the game. For instance we can use your example of the single that scores a game winning rbi in the bottom of the ninth. It is a walk off single since the game is now over.[/quote]

    That’s your opinion and that’s fine.

    It just doesn’t fit the etymology of the term.

    If the winning run is on second and someone singles to the outfield, chances are there’s going to be a play at the plate. The fielders (likely) won’t just give up and concede the run and the game.

    Sid Bream did NOT, in the spirit of the term, score on a “walk-off single” by Francisco Cabrera, even though it was the game-winning hit in the bottom of the ninth. Because the game wasn’t over as soon as Cabrera hit the ball and it landed fair. There was a play at the plate. A fairly famous play.

    Kirk Gibson’s home run – that’s a walk-off home run. Most “walk-off” whatevers are home runs. There are also those singles that go through a drawn-in infield or go deep down the line or over the head of an outfielder and fall in fair and obviously score the game-winning run without a play from the defense.

    Sure, you could call any game-winning play (hit, error, sac fly, bases-loaded walk, gork, home run) a “walk-off” whatever, but it wouldn’t go along with either the derivation or the spirit of the term as it was originally intended. Which is why “walk-off single” is a bit dodgy and “walk-off-walk” would be frigging ridiculous.[/quote]

    Point of order . . .

    Robin Ventura was credited with a “walk-off-single” for the Mets in the 2000 NLCS when he hit the ball over the fence with the bases loaded but failed to circle the bases completely after being mobbed by his teammates between first and second base . . .

  • GoTerriers | April 30, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”257541″]

    Point of order . . .

    Robin Ventura was credited with a “walk-off-single” for the Mets in the 2000 NLCS when he hit the ball over the fence with the bases loaded but failed to circle the bases completely after being mobbed by his teammates between first and second base . . .[/quote]

    Sorry, should be “Point of information” not “order” (damn Robert’s Rules . . . )

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 30, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”257536″][quote comment=”257488″][quote comment=”257453″][quote comment=”257435″][quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.[/quote]

    The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.[/quote]
    Can we make a list and add “Going Yard” to it?[/quote]

    That all depends, in exchange, can we bring Keith Olberman back to ESPN to resurrect “he hit the ball real hard” as a permenant fixture to Sportscenter?[/quote]
    Or “that ball is deep and not playable”

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”257543″][quote comment=”257541″]

    Point of order . . .

    Robin Ventura was credited with a “walk-off-single” for the Mets in the 2000 NLCS when he hit the ball over the fence with the bases loaded but failed to circle the bases completely after being mobbed by his teammates between first and second base . . .[/quote]

    Sorry, should be “Point of information” not “order” (damn Robert’s Rules . . . )[/quote]

    i thought it was the now-infamous “grand slam single”…

    but…hey i could be wrong

  • Walaitis | April 30, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”257547″][quote comment=”257536″][quote comment=”257488″][quote comment=”257453″][quote comment=”257435″][quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.[/quote]

    The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.[/quote]
    Can we make a list and add “Going Yard” to it?[/quote]

    That all depends, in exchange, can we bring Keith Olberman back to ESPN to resurrect “he hit the ball real hard” as a permenant fixture to Sportscenter?[/quote]
    Or “that ball is deep and not playable”[/quote]

    Not to mention “that would be a 4-3-2 double play if you’re scoring at home, and even if you’re alone.”

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 30, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”257547″][quote comment=”257536″][quote comment=”257488″][quote comment=”257453″][quote comment=”257435″][quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.[/quote]

    The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.[/quote]
    Can we make a list and add “Going Yard” to it?[/quote]

    That all depends, in exchange, can we bring Keith Olberman back to ESPN to resurrect “he hit the ball real hard” as a permenant fixture to Sportscenter?[/quote]
    Or “that ball is deep and not playable”[/quote]
    Apologies for piling on to my own post – but I miss these gems from Kenny Mayne:
    “That must be a Homer, Simpson, cuz the pitcher just said D’oh!”
    “Your puny ballparks are too small to contain my gargantuan blasts! Bring me the finest meats and cheeses for a clubhouse feast!”
    “Yahtzee!”
    …and now go back to PTI

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 30, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”257543″][quote comment=”257541″]

    Point of order . . .

    Robin Ventura was credited with a “walk-off-single” for the Mets in the 2000 NLCS when he hit the ball over the fence with the bases loaded but failed to circle the bases completely after being mobbed by his teammates between first and second base . . .[/quote]

    Sorry, should be “Point of information” not “order” (damn Robert’s Rules . . . )[/quote]

    If you can show me an official scorebook that has ‘walk-off’ anything, then I’ll stop objecting to the term.

    K.T. … great points! How can you have a walk-off single? One can’t be credited with a single if he (or she) doesn’t touch first.

    Wait … DAMMIT PHIL!

    Sorry … I’ll stop talking about the walk-off stuff now. Promise.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”257552″][quote comment=”257543″][quote comment=”257541″]

    Point of order . . .

    Robin Ventura was credited with a “walk-off-single” for the Mets in the 2000 NLCS when he hit the ball over the fence with the bases loaded but failed to circle the bases completely after being mobbed by his teammates between first and second base . . .[/quote]

    Sorry, should be “Point of information” not “order” (damn Robert’s Rules . . . )[/quote]

    i thought it was the now-infamous “grand slam single”…

    but…hey i could be wrong[/quote]

    oh…and it was 1999

    i knew something was fishy about that 2000 thing…since he did it against the bravos

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 30, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”257555″][quote comment=”257547″][quote comment=”257536″][quote comment=”257488″][quote comment=”257453″][quote comment=”257435″][quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.[/quote]

    The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.[/quote]
    Can we make a list and add “Going Yard” to it?[/quote]

    That all depends, in exchange, can we bring Keith Olberman back to ESPN to resurrect “he hit the ball real hard” as a permenant fixture to Sportscenter?[/quote]
    Or “that ball is deep and not playable”[/quote]

    Not to mention “that would be a 4-3-2 double play if you’re scoring at home, and even if you’re alone.”[/quote]
    My fave: “Dick Trickle…did not finish”

  • lwiedy | April 30, 2008 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”257555″][quote comment=”257547″][quote comment=”257536″][quote comment=”257488″][quote comment=”257453″][quote comment=”257435″][quote comment=”257417″]It didn’t originally apply to the batter, but in popular parlance it does now.

    It’s discussed in terms of “hitting a walk-off home run” as much as giving one up.[/quote]
    And we’ve come full circle. The ‘popular parlance’ is what I originally objected to. And now I know where the term came from, what it should mean, and who started this whole mess. Not that the discussion is a mess, the usage of the term is a mess.[/quote]

    The term itself is a mess and should be banned from any parlance, popular or otherwise.[/quote]
    Can we make a list and add “Going Yard” to it?[/quote]

    That all depends, in exchange, can we bring Keith Olberman back to ESPN to resurrect “he hit the ball real hard” as a permenant fixture to Sportscenter?[/quote]
    Or “that ball is deep and not playable”[/quote]

    Not to mention “that would be a 4-3-2 double play if you’re scoring at home, and even if you’re alone.”[/quote]

    4-3-2? When did that happen?

  • GoTerriers | April 30, 2008 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”257558″][quote comment=”257552″][quote comment=”257543″][quote comment=”257541″]

    Point of order . . .

    Robin Ventura was credited with a “walk-off-single” for the Mets in the 2000 NLCS when he hit the ball over the fence with the bases loaded but failed to circle the bases completely after being mobbed by his teammates between first and second base . . .[/quote]

    Sorry, should be “Point of information” not “order” (damn Robert’s Rules . . . )[/quote]

    i thought it was the now-infamous “grand slam single”…

    but…hey i could be wrong[/quote]

    oh…and it was 1999

    i knew something was fishy about that 2000 thing…since he did it against the bravos[/quote]

    I beg forgiveness of the year. . . I’m a Yankees fan. I could give a rat’s posterior about ANYTHING Met’s related.

  • QualityStarts | April 30, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    I have a uni-related question and I doubt anyone will be able to help me, but here it goes…

    Remember the MLB “Turn Ahead the Clock” Uniforms from 1999? Well, from what I have heard the Red Sox were supposed to wear their own “Turn Ahead the Clock” uniforms but never did since the game they were supposed to wear them for got rained out or something. Has anyone ever seen a picture of these uniforms and does a photo exist online?

    All I have ever been able to find is the video Paul posted a while back and that one crappy Angelfire site that has pictures of most of those uniforms. I thought I was getting close when I found a site that was archived mlb.com with links to see all the uniforms but unfortunately the links were dead.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote]I beg forgiveness of the year. . . I’m a Yankees fan. I could give a rat’s posterior about ANYTHING Met’s related.[/quote]

    you’re forgiven…both for the year and for being a yankee fan ;)

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 30, 2008 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”257582″]I have a uni-related question and I doubt anyone will be able to help me, but here it goes…

    Remember the MLB “Turn Ahead the Clock” Uniforms from 1999? Well, from what I have heard the Red Sox were supposed to wear their own “Turn Ahead the Clock” uniforms but never did since the game they were supposed to wear them for got rained out or something. Has anyone ever seen a picture of these uniforms and does a photo exist online?

    All I have ever been able to find is the video Paul posted a while back and that one crappy Angelfire site that has pictures of most of those uniforms. I thought I was getting close when I found a site that was archived mlb.com with links to see all the uniforms but unfortunately the links were dead.[/quote]
    Here
    Scroll to post #10

  • lwiedy | April 30, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    As for the Rays in Orlando, I cannot speak for the Rays attempts to advertise, but Orlando’s media outlets seemed uninterested in this year’s series. Last year, all the 5 p.m. newscasts were going live during the second and third games and no one seemed to be doing that this year.

    I think the Magic not playing playoff games would have meant a thousand or so fans per game and I know Rays officials would have been happy with 10,000+.

    Question for Orlando-ites. Why are there no signs on the interstate for you basketball arena? Sure I would not be proud of a name like “Amway Arena” but I drove right by the exit not realizing I should have been looking for “Metroplex”. I’ve heard of Orlando Orena (sic), TD Waterhouse Arena, et al, but Metroplex? Does someone have something against multi-level marketing schemes?

  • QualityStarts | April 30, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    Thanks Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland, I don’t know how I missed that.

  • Walaitis | April 30, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”257573″]

    Not to mention “that would be a 4-3-2 double play if you’re scoring at home, and even if you’re alone.”[/quote]

    4-3-2? When did that happen?[/quote]

    My bad … trying to paraphrase quickly without losing my job. No doubt that in 130+ years it’s happened (though a Google search, even with my fingers crossed, offered no such example).

  • Mike | April 30, 2008 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”257528″][quote comment=”257496″]KT, I disagree. A “walk off (whatever)” is simply the hit that ends the game. For instance we can use your example of the single that scores a game winning rbi in the bottom of the ninth. It is a walk off single since the game is now over.[/quote]

    That’s your opinion and that’s fine.

    It just doesn’t fit the etymology of the term.

    If the winning run is on second and someone singles to the outfield, chances are there’s going to be a play at the plate. The fielders (likely) won’t just give up and concede the run and the game.

    Sid Bream did NOT, in the spirit of the term, score on a “walk-off single” by Francisco Cabrera, even though it was the game-winning hit in the bottom of the ninth. Because the game wasn’t over as soon as Cabrera hit the ball and it landed fair. There was a play at the plate. A fairly famous play.

    Kirk Gibson’s home run – that’s a walk-off home run. Most “walk-off” whatevers are home runs. There are also those singles that go through a drawn-in infield or go deep down the line or over the head of an outfielder and fall in fair and obviously score the game-winning run without a play from the defense.

    Sure, you could call any game-winning play (hit, error, sac fly, bases-loaded walk, gork, home run) a “walk-off” whatever, but it wouldn’t go along with either the derivation or the spirit of the term as it was originally intended. Which is why “walk-off single” is a bit dodgy and “walk-off-walk” would be frigging ridiculous.

    I deal with words for a living and am fascinated by etymology (sports etymology is a particularly interesting subset). When you look at how the term came to be and what its original intent was, you can’t really equate the “any game-winning event” with “walk-off.”[/quote]
    Can’t you just take it as after the specific play (game winning hit of any kind) the teams walk off the field? That’s how I’ve always thought of it, and it makes perfect sense. The walk-off refers to AFTER the play, not the play itself.

  • Kek | April 30, 2008 at 4:53 pm |

    My buccos take a beating in here, because of the red vests and their terrible play.

    But somehow it’s cool they took some frustration out on the Mighty Metropolitans today!!!

    I’m sure you guys can blame it on those black caps!!!

  • lwiedy | April 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”257591″][quote comment=”257573″]

    Not to mention “that would be a 4-3-2 double play if you’re scoring at home, and even if you’re alone.”[/quote]

    4-3-2? When did that happen?[/quote]

    My bad … trying to paraphrase quickly without losing my job. No doubt that in 130+ years it’s happened (though a Google search, even with my fingers crossed, offered no such example).[/quote]

    No problem! Forgot the wink & smile when I posted.

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 30, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”257590″]Thanks Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland, I don’t know how I missed that.[/quote]
    You’re welcome – glad to help out a fellow UW-er

  • joe | April 30, 2008 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”257376″]
    Get rid of the DH then. Even the playing field.[/quote]
    you- preaching
    me- choir

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”257602″][quote comment=”257591″][quote comment=”257573″][quote]

    Not to mention “that would be a 4-3-2 double play if you’re scoring at home, and even if you’re alone.”[/quote]

    4-3-2? When did that happen?[/quote]

    My bad … trying to paraphrase quickly without losing my job. No doubt that in 130+ years it’s happened (though a Google search, even with my fingers crossed, offered no such example).[/quote]

    No problem! Forgot the wink & smile when I posted.[/quote]

    you’re forgiven…mr. or ms. lwiedy ;)

  • Anna Rajdl | April 30, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    Not entirely uni related… but still a good story about sportsmanship over on ESPN.

    link

  • James Craven | April 30, 2008 at 6:45 pm |

    As far as Mr Olbermann:

    1. He did say te night after Bonds hit #756* “It’s deep and I don’t think that’s legal!”

    2. In an oddball story about a guy who brought a gun to a bat fight trying to rob a conveinence store “And he hit the man real hard.” the fan in me squealed like a little Catholic schoolgirl.

  • Kek | April 30, 2008 at 6:50 pm |

    Sorry if this was brought up over the weekend but does anyone know the deal with Annika’s belt buckle?

    Sponsor-driven or just a fashion statement?

  • Stuby | April 30, 2008 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”257656″]Sorry if this was brought up over the weekend but does anyone know the deal with Annika’s belt buckle?

    Sponsor-driven or just a fashion statement?[/quote]
    Flag of Sweden perhaps?

  • James Craven | April 30, 2008 at 7:11 pm |

    No pix, but Adolph, er, Woodrow Wil, uh, Dictator Fat George XLIII got a white Giants jersey with #43 on it.

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 7:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”257541″]Point of order . . .

    Robin Ventura was credited with a “walk-off-single” for the Mets in the 2000 NLCS when he hit the ball over the fence with the bases loaded but failed to circle the bases completely after being mobbed by his teammates between first and second base . . .[/quote]

    He was “credited” with that? Is that an official stat now? Is WOS on the stat line with AB R H BI 2B 3B HR, etc?

    He was “credited” with a single. If someone called it a “walk-off-single” they were either a fan who was trying to be clever or a sportswriter, neither of which are usually that brilliant.

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 7:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”257594″]Can’t you just take it as after the specific play (game winning hit of any kind) the teams walk off the field? That’s how I’ve always thought of it, and it makes perfect sense. The walk-off refers to AFTER the play, not the play itself.[/quote]

    You can feel free to call it whatever you like. You can call it a Throatwobbler Mangrove if you like.

    The walk-off refers to after the play, yes. But “walk-off” has become an adjective that has as its derivation the act of the opponents trudging off the field, beaten and dejected. That’s where it came from.

    Plus, as mentioned, the winning team in that situation rarely walks off the field (at least immediately) after such an exciting play. If it was all about what both teams did right after the play, you could call a fly ball that ends up in the center fielder’s glove for out #27 a walkoff play because everybody (eventually) walks off the field.

    There’s slightly more nuance to it than you’re making it out to be.

  • KT | April 30, 2008 at 7:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”257557″]
    K.T. … great points! How can you have a walk-off single? One can’t be credited with a single if he (or she) doesn’t touch first.
    [/quote]

    Argh.

    You’re. Killing. Me.

    It’s not about whether or not the batter walks off the field, okay? Of course they’re going to touch first base (and hopefully the player on first isn’t Fred Merkle).

    It’s about the opponents trudging off the field. If it was called a trudge-off home run/single, that would be more adequately descriptive and less ambiguous.

    But the term should go, along with the You Think It’s Clever “If you’re scoring at home” b.s. and my all-time least favorite “like deja vu all over again” which was only clever for about 35 seconds.

    Anyone who uses either of those should be hit in the head with a snow shovel.

  • lwiedy | April 30, 2008 at 7:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”257622″][quote comment=”257602″][quote comment=”257591″][quote comment=”257573″][quote]

    Not to mention “that would be a 4-3-2 double play if you’re scoring at home, and even if you’re alone.”[/quote]

    4-3-2? When did that happen?[/quote]

    My bad … trying to paraphrase quickly without losing my job. No doubt that in 130+ years it’s happened (though a Google search, even with my fingers crossed, offered no such example).[/quote]

    No problem! Forgot the wink & smile when I posted.[/quote]

    you’re forgiven…mr. or ms. lwiedy ;)[/quote]

    Phil, you crack me up. How do you remember all the gems? I posted earlier and was waiting for “and how do you know that?”

  • lwiedy | April 30, 2008 at 8:02 pm |

    Hey all you Trop haters, get ready for the “St. Petersburg Bowl” in December 2008. Big East vs. CUSA. Nice game, if it were basketball.

  • lwiedy | April 30, 2008 at 8:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”257675″][quote comment=”257557″]
    K.T. … great points! How can you have a walk-off single? One can’t be credited with a single if he (or she) doesn’t touch first.
    [/quote]

    Argh.

    You’re. Killing. Me.

    It’s not about whether or not the batter walks off the field, okay? Of course they’re going to touch first base (and hopefully the player on first isn’t Fred Merkle).

    It’s about the opponents trudging off the field. If it was called a trudge-off home run/single, that would be more adequately descriptive and less ambiguous.

    But the term should go, along with the You Think It’s Clever “If you’re scoring at home” b.s. and my all-time least favorite “like deja vu all over again” which was only clever for about 35 seconds.

    Anyone who uses either of those should be hit in the head with a snow shovel.[/quote]

    Can we please keep boners out of the discussion?

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 8:13 pm |

    [quote]Phil, you crack me up. How do you remember all the gems? I posted earlier and was waiting for “and how do you know that?”[/quote]

    i already used that

    it was late and you must have gone to sleep

    i’ll be sure to use it again for ya, when appropriate

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 8:19 pm |

    everyone be sure to watch sportscenter tonight

    buddy carlysle hit one over the braves’ outfielder’s head to win the nats-bravos game today in the bottom of the ninth…and was mobbed by teammates…the braves pitcher, downtrodden, exited the mound in a parambulatory fashion

    i wonder how they’ll describe it

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”257703″]everyone be sure to watch sportscenter tonight

    buddy carlysle hit one over the braves’ outfielder’s head to win the nats-bravos game today in the bottom of the ninth…and was mobbed by teammates…the braves pitcher, downtrodden, exited the mound in a parambulatory fashion

    i wonder how they’ll describe it[/quote]

    that’ll teach me to pay attention…im thinkin to myself…*phil…isn’t carlyle a pitcher?*

    yeah…he is…he GAVE UP that hit (and is the downtrodden one) to filipe (no relation) lopez…

    messers. ekdahl, grzegorek, redemske & lukas…any chance for that “edit” button?

  • Bryan Redemske | April 30, 2008 at 8:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”257708″]

    messers. ekdahl, grzegorek, redemske & lukas…any chance for that “edit” button?[/quote]

    No. Stop sucking and you won’t need it.

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”257717″]
    No. Stop sucking and you won’t need it.[/quote]

    no. i intend to continue to suck

    it was also the bottom of the 12th, not bottom 9

    and bry, next time you’re on your bike, be sure to check out my rear wheel

  • Bryan Redemske | April 30, 2008 at 9:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”257728″][quote comment=”257717″]
    No. Stop sucking and you won’t need it.[/quote]

    no. i intend to continue to suck

    it was also the bottom of the 12th, not bottom 9

    and bry, next time you’re on your bike, be sure to check out my rear wheel[/quote]

    You’ve been waiting all day to use that, haven’t you?

  • Joe A | April 30, 2008 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”256883″][quote]Disney…had the usual ball park choices of beers (all the major domestics), and for some reason they decided to sell Foster’s Oil Cans. They also had full bars set up through-out the park which definitely weren’t there last year.[/quote]

    sweet…im guessing everyone takes public transportation to the game and there are no young children present

    and yet, miley cyrus is now a bad role model for the youth[/quote]

    Thats one of the good things about disney, all the parks are linked by a great bus system, no need to drive at all unless you’re staying at a hotel off the campus, otherwise, theres really no reason not to get smashed and take the bus home.

  • Joey Guns | April 30, 2008 at 9:48 pm |

    The Giants presented an away Giants jersey to the Prez today:

    http://d.yimg.com/a/...

  • LI Phil | April 30, 2008 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote]You’ve been waiting all day to use that, haven’t you?[/quote]

    someone had to

  • C-Dublin | April 30, 2008 at 11:25 pm |

    Who wears a Vikings jersey to a Cavaliers Wizards playoff game? Especially a purple one.

  • Patrick | April 30, 2008 at 11:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”257476″]Green Caps: Symbolizing their commitment, the entire Phillies team will wear green baseball caps as they take on the San Diego Padres tonight (April 30) at 7:05 p.m.

    Link[/quote]

    Commitment to what? The nuthouse?

  • James Craven | April 30, 2008 at 11:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”257691″]“Hey all you Trop haters, get ready for the ‘St. Petersburg Bowl’ in December 2008. Big East vs. CUSA. Nice game, if it were basketball.”[/quote]

    Until they sell the name to some company and it’s renamed “The XYZ Stuff Bowl”

  • Jon in SLC | May 1, 2008 at 12:19 am |

    I know it’s late and most people won’t see this but there is a neat article on a guy who collects 49ers game used jerseys.

  • LI Phil | May 1, 2008 at 12:31 am |

    [quote comment=”257770″][quote comment=”257476″]Green Caps: Symbolizing their commitment, the entire Phillies team will wear green baseball caps as they take on the San Diego Padres tonight (April 30) at 7:05 p.m.

    Link[/quote]

    Commitment to what? The nuthouse?[/quote]

    you tell me

    it’s a good look…and making brand new hats demonstrates their commitment to the environment

  • Alex | May 1, 2008 at 8:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”257106″][quote comment=”257080″][quote comment=”256992″]This Oregon uniform recruiting tool thing really frightens me. Lord knows what this fashion disaster will lead to across the NCAA. It was funny to make fun of their diamond-plate lemon yellow and emerald green uniforms but if more good players start publicly digging the threads, you know other schools will follow. Notre Dame with diamond-plate? Penn State in a different uniform every week? I’m scared Mommy, make the big, bad Nike go away![/quote]

    The Oregon uniforms are amazing. Serves them right for getting players because they have the best uniform pack in the NCAA.[/quote]

    I whole heartedly agree. LeGarrette Blount made the right choice uniform wise. All the SEC uniforms are so bland.[/quote]

    I’m glad the choice to follow the uniform isn’t completely regarded as stupid.
    I’ve felt foolish for years about the fact that I became an Oregon fan in high school because their uni’s and specifically their deep green helmets were so cool.

    I even planned on going to school there, and now I claim THAT as the reason for my fandom.

    Thanks for the sense of acceptance fellow readers.