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L.A., as in Lingering Anderson

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When you think of Sparky Anderson, you probably picture him being dressed one of two ways: as a Red or a Tiger. But Sparky wore lots of other uniforms prior to assuming the managerial chair. His one season as a big league infielder was spent with the Phillies, he played for lots of minor league teams (including the gorgeously attired Toronto Maple Leafs), and let’s not forget this uniform.

But if you grew up watching Sparky skipper the Reds, as I did, there’s one uniform — that of a certain division rival — that it’s simply impossible to picture him wearing. Or at least that’s what I thought until reader Richard Craig got in touch with me the other day. He attended the recent Dodgers/Bosox exhibition game at the L.A. Coliseum, where he picked up a scorecard that included this photo of the 1958 Dodgers (the franchise’s first squad in L.A. — 50th anniversary and all). I’ll let Richard pick up the story from there:

I didn’t look closely at this team photo until last night, and I noticed some very strange things about it. First, it wasn’t the team photo I’d seen before. … Furthermore, the uniforms seem to have no numbers on the front, unlike those in the [other] team photo or the previous one taken in Brooklyn.

I concluded this must have been some sort of spring training picture where they rounded up everyone they could find and posed them around a “Los Angeles” flag to make a point about the team’s move west.

That’s really interesting to me, though, is something I’d never seen before — what appears to be an image of Sparky Anderson in an L.A. Dodgers cap. He’s on the far right in the third row from the top. Here’s a close-up.

I knew Sparky had been a Brooklyn farmhand, but I also know that he never played for the Dodgers in the big leagues, and I’ve definitely never seen an image of him in an L.A. uniform. For those of us who grew up in the ’70s with the N.L. West being a battleground between the Dodgers and Sparky’s Cincinnati Reds, the sight of him in an L.A. hat is truly bizarre.

Indeed it is. But it turns out that Anderson had already worn an L.A. cap — although not an L.A. Dodgers cap — by the time that 1958 photo was taken. That’s because he had been a member of the minor league Los Angeles Angels. I’m not sure of the date of that photo, but note that the jersey features shoulder gussets, a style that the Angels wore in 1956 and ’57, so that narrows it down.

If you look again at the photo of Sparky as an Angel, you can sort of see in that the Angels’ “LA” cap lettering was white and red, not just white (plus there’s an extra serif at the top of the “A”). But in the ’58 spring training photo, Sparky does indeed appear to be wearing a white-lettered Dodgers cap — a stunner.

Two final thoughts: First, I found one other shot of Sparky as a Toronto Maple Leaf — with eyeglasses! And second, you can hear Sparky’s finest recorded moment (definitely NSFW) here.

Philly Reminder: Uni Watch party tomorrow at Bob & Barbara’s Lounge, Philadelphia, 4:30pm. See you there.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Check out Mickey Mantle’s cuffed sleeve cuff. … Tytus Abrahmason notes that Vlad Guerrero was wearing his usual tar-gunked helmet in the 1st inning of Wednesday night’s Angels/Royals game but wore a clean, shiny helmet for the rest of the game. Vlad hit into a disputed double play in that 1st inning plate appearance and was pretty upset afterward, leading to Tytus to wonder, “Could it be that he bashed his helmet to pieces during a 1st inning tantrum in the dugout?” … Ohio State football note from Matthew Hager: “I was at the Buckeyes’ spring draft Wednesday afternoon and they mentioned they will be wearing a special helmet decal on Saturday. It will be the initals D.S., in honor of elementary school crossing guard Dianna Sharp, who was killed a week ago when she attempted to push an eight-year-old out of the road before a dump truck hit them both. The kid survived, she didn’t.” … Fascinating note from Jeffrey Soderberg, who writes: “On Wednesday night, when Melky Cabrera ended the 7th inning by being thrown out trying to stretch a single into a double, the 2nd base umpire pulled out a stopwatch — I guess to time the TV break — but I had never seen it before and I wasn’t aware that they carried them.” Anyone know more about this? … Logos in public space have officially gotten Orwellian (disturbing find by Mike Cusack). … Here’s a slightly clearer view of those Yankees capes from Opening Day, 1933 (big thanks to Eric Hoey). … Great video clip here about a little kid who’s basically a minature version of Flames goalie Miikka Kiprusoff (with thanks to Mike McAllister). … Lots of Papal uni-watching currently floating around out there — looks here and here … Hmmm, Black Sox? … The latest installment of “Equipped with Joe Skiba,” featuring newly signed backup QB David Carr, is up on Giants.com, and it’s a doozy, with discussion of Carr’s facemask, sleeves, socks, and, of course, gloves. Recommended viewing. … Check out this amazing Sabres patch that Zac Neubauer found. … Remember the question of whether a pitcher who enters the game as a pinch-hitter would be allowed to wear a jacket on the bases? A source who prefers to remain nameless was so intrigued by that question that he posed it to someone in the MLB office, who responded thusly: “I believe that the pitcher would be permitted to wear a jacket on the bases regardless if he was actively pitching in the game at that point. The Major League Baseball Umpires Manual section 2.15 covers Jackets by stating that, ‘A pitcher may wear a jacket while a baserunner. A pitcher may not wear a jacket while batting. No other player is permitted to wear a jacket while a baserunner, a batter, a defensive player, or a coach on the baselines. If worn (by a pitcher on the bases), the jacket [shall] be buttoned.” … Check out Larry Doby in the striped cap — when did the Tribe wear that? … Chris Mycoskie reports that Louisiana-Lafayette wore 1930s throwbacks on Wednesday night (lots of additional pics here) The “S” dates back to the days when the school was called Southwestern Louisiana Institute, but Chris says the “Ragin Cajuns” lettering on the placket is inaccurate, since the school’s teams were called the Bulldogs until the 1960s. … Kenny Chesney threw out the first pitch in Baltimore last night, and wore a bottom-hemmed Cool Base jersey for the occasion (thanks, Bryan). … “A few weekends ago we went to a park here in Greensboro, North Carolina, where they were staging a reenactment from a Revolutionary War,” writes Jake Keys. “I thought you might enjoy this picture. The kid has style.” … Big surprise.

 

121 comments to L.A., as in Lingering Anderson

  • Morris Belleville | April 18, 2008 at 8:56 am |

    The stopwatch for the ump is for timing the pitcher. The second base ump did that last year here in Detroit when a Cleveland pitcher was taking way too much time between pitches.

  • Ryan | April 18, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    Pitchers are supposed to only take 12 seconds to pitch the ball when there are no runners on base. Its supposed to speed up the game. That game took over 4 hours with the stopwatches tho!

  • Jim | April 18, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    How do we know for sure that is Sparky in the Dodgers photo?

  • Jason | April 18, 2008 at 9:06 am |

    The umpires will only put the stopwatch on pitchers in cases where they believe he is taking too long, or if there is a complaint by the opposing manager. In this case, the umpire was timing the commercial break. Usually, it’s the junior umpire on the crew who has this task. If you attend a game, you’ll be able to see there is always an umpire timing between every inning.

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    shout out to UW favorite matt powers, who submitted the top story (or at least it was on april 17 with the spree jersey) over at straightcashhomey

  • Jim | April 18, 2008 at 9:09 am |

    Should the heading say “as in”?

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”253868″]shout out to UW favorite matt powers, who submitted the top story (or at least it was on april 17 with the spree jersey) over at straightcashhomey[/quote]

    whoops…my bad

    here’s the link

  • Dave Rohr | April 18, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    The striped Indians cap worn by Larry Doby were only for the coaches for a season or two in the mid-70’s. It might have been along the same idea as the A’s coaches wearing white caps.

  • Dave F. | April 18, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    I was ready to get my dander up about the Flogo story until I watched the video. Those things are almost so small as to be pointless.

  • Dustin | April 18, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    Rafael Betencourt of the Tribe is the worst. He takes about 30 seconds between pitches. A couple of times last year the batter was issued a walk because of him not meeting the time requirements.

  • Duckstyle | April 18, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment=”253874″]I was ready to get my dander up about the Flogo story until I watched the video. Those things are almost so small as to be pointless.[/quote]

    It’s like outsourcing for the pilots that fly banners. Dey took yer jahb!

  • KC | April 18, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    The umpys time the commercial breaks. It’s like 1.5 mins for normal games, and 2.5 mins for national television games. If the pitcher finishes before the time for the break is up the umpy that’s holding the stopwatch will hold up the game until the break is done. It would be akin to the person that has the bright arm sleeves and headphone that stands on the sideline at football games.

  • scott | April 18, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”253873″]The striped Indians cap worn by Larry Doby were only for the coaches for a season or two in the mid-70’s. It might have been along the same idea as the A’s coaches wearing white caps.[/quote]

    Interesting. I like stripes on a baseball cap and wish some team would create an alternate cap with that style.

  • lwiedy | April 18, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”253874″]I was ready to get my dander up about the Flogo story until I watched the video. Those things are almost so small as to be pointless.[/quote]

    Advertising/messaging in the sky, hardly a novel concept.

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 18, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    Don’t know if anybody has posted this yet, but…….
    If only they were green ;-)

  • Paul Lukas | April 18, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”253870″]Should the heading say “as in”?[/quote]

    Ugh — yes. Now fixed. Guess who was trying to do too many things at once this morning….

  • lwiedy | April 18, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”253877″][quote comment=”253874″]I was ready to get my dander up about the Flogo story until I watched the video. Those things are almost so small as to be pointless.[/quote]

    It’s like outsourcing for the pilots that fly banners. Dey took yer jahb![/quote]

    Oh, didn’t know there was a personal connection.

  • PA Sox fan | April 18, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    Not quite sure how the O’s can outfit Kenny Chesney with a jersey (modified at that) and glove and then not give him an Orioles hat. The jersey becomes a little pointless when he walks out wearing a USC Gamecocks hat.

  • Tony In Erie | April 18, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    Signs Of The Apolcalypse

    Isn’t it sad that I clicked on the pictures of Pope Benedict and said “What does this have to do with David Ortiz?” and had to re-read it to realize it said Papal, not Papi…

    This Has Been: Signs Of The Apolcalypse

  • Jet Bret | April 18, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    So since Prince Fielder hit his first Home Run yesterday wearing pants that were so long they stretched under his heels

    … does that mean he’ll be done wearing the Josh Gibson look in 2008?

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 18, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    (cue the “Dragnet” theme)…
    DAAAAH DUH DUH DUH

  • Tony In Erie | April 18, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    haha I typed it wrong twice ! What a dingbat.

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 18, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”253901″]haha I typed it wrong twice ! What a dingbat.[/quote]
    Agreed ;-)

  • Shane | April 18, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    . No other player is permitted to wear a jacket while a baserunner, a batter, a defensive player, or a coach on the baselines.

    There was that time Jim Edmonds wore a jacket under his jersey..

  • Roger Faso | April 18, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    Knock it out the box, Hank.

  • Duckstyle | April 18, 2008 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”253904″][quote comment=”253901″]haha I typed it wrong twice ! What a dingbat.[/quote]
    Agreed ;-)[/quote]

    Oh Really!?

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 18, 2008 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”253910″][quote comment=”253904″][quote comment=”253901″]haha I typed it wrong twice ! What a dingbat.[/quote]
    Agreed ;-)[/quote]

    Oh Really!?[/quote]
    Yes, now stifle
    :-)

  • David Feltz | April 18, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    Hey Paul: Over at Steve’s Baseball Photography pages, he’s posted a couple of photos of Brooks Robinson wearing the all-orange Oriole uniform of 1971. However, he has them dated April 1972. He gave a shout-out to Uniwatch to see if anybody knew how often those uniforms were worn. I had always thought they were worn only a couple of times in 1971, and 1972. You might want to check those photos out.

  • Jeag | April 18, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    So the Blackhawks wore the special White Sox sweaters, but wouldn’t wear their white socks with them? Oversight, or homage to the Sox never actually wearing white socks?

  • Walaitis | April 18, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”253884″][quote comment=”253874″]I was ready to get my dander up about the Flogo story until I watched the video. Those things are almost so small as to be pointless.[/quote]

    Advertising/messaging in the sky, hardly a novel concept.[/quote]

    Let’s try to be a little more current with our sky advertising references, OK?

  • Luther Mahoney | April 18, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.

  • Julio | April 18, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    So I was in Mass today and I got to thinking…the coolest (or one of the coolest) ever memorial on a jersey/ helmet was the Carl “Spider” Lockhart jersey patch from the 86 Giants…which led me to wonder, is there a specific NFL rule banning patches like this? Wouldn’t the Sean Taylor memorial been cooler if it looked something like the ‘Skins 75th anniversary patch?

  • Kek | April 18, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”253918″]So the Blackhawks wore the special White Sox sweaters, but wouldn’t wear their white socks with them? Oversight, or homage to the Sox never actually wearing white socks?[/quote]
    Not true. They wore white with dark blue sanitaries in ’69 and ’70. Plus, those odd, untucked, stirrup-less outfits of ’76 through ’81 (those of the infamous shorts) were white socks with blue stripes.

  • John T | April 18, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”253910″][quote comment=”253904″][quote comment=”253901″]haha I typed it wrong twice ! What a dingbat.[/quote]
    Agreed ;-)[/quote]

    Oh Really!?[/quote]

    Will you meatheads quit already!! Jeez……

  • Walaitis | April 18, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    So were Mantle’s cuffed sleeves the 1950’s equivalent of Sammy Sosa’s elastic sleeves?

    I would imagine the main purpose would be to show off the Mick’s massive 14 inch pythons.

  • Phil Richardson | April 18, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    Be thankful Chesney didn’t have the sleeves of his jersey hemmed off– he loves the gun show.

  • Fiver | April 18, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    Wow, having watched Joe Skiba’s interview with David Carr, I’m shocked at how few of Carr’s unform and equipemtn “quirks” actually relate to playing the game. He cuts his sleeves short to “show off the guns”, wears a bulky facemask to look “tough”, and wears embarassing white gloves because he finds the backsides of offensive linemen “unhygenic”. Not exactly the same approach Y.A. Tittle took, I’m guessing.

  • Tony In Erie | April 18, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    I love you guys. :)

  • The Ol Goaler | April 18, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    Add to Sparky’s uniforms: Alas, I no longer have it, but the 1967 St. Louis Cardinals yearbook featured a shot of the organization’s minor-league managers wearing the big club’s uniforms in Spring Training… including one George Anderson!

    “Sparky” led the St. Petersburg Cardinals to a 91-45 record in 1966, and managed the Birds’ Modesto Reds farm to a 79-61 record in 1967.

  • Tony In Erie | April 18, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”253924″][quote comment=”253910″][quote comment=”253904″][quote comment=”253901″]haha I typed it wrong twice ! What a dingbat.[/quote]
    Agreed ;-)[/quote]

    Oh Really!?[/quote]

    Will you meatheads quit already!! Jeez……[/quote]

    Haha, I love you guys. :)

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 11:17 am |

    [quote]the Mick’s massive 14 inch pythons.[/quote]

    not to be confused with the porno bearing the same title

  • Walaitis | April 18, 2008 at 11:26 am |

    Just jumped online to find out news on the just-occuring aftershock to this morning’s earthquake (hey, we don’t get many of those in the midwest!), and found this interesting tidbit – call it a “Uniwatch Mystery“!

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 18, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”253939″][quote]the Mick’s massive 14 inch pythons.[/quote]

    not to be confused with the porno bearing the same title[/quote]
    [boom chicka wow-wow]

    Not be confused with the other new porno:

    “Girardi Pulls Wang Early”

  • JN | April 18, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    i know there has been in the past discussion about NBA and MLB teams that have had hispanic heritage night and ‘dressed’ their teams in their respective hispanic unis (i.e. here, here, and here).

    the kc royals have just announced (second to last ‘graf) that their official mlb website is http://www.losroyals... (its even highlighted in the banner at the top of the site). i know that most if not all major sports websites are translated into spanish, but are their domains officially the bastardized spanish version?

    i believe that an entire article was written on uw about the uni aspect of this, but what about the website or any promo stuff? my espanol is very limited (the only thing i know is that ‘el nino’ is spanish for…’the nino’), but wouldn’t ‘los royals’ be something close to ‘los reals’ or ‘realkc’? although this isn’t a football/soccer team (i.e. real madrid, real salt lake)

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    Here’s something for the Ticker about the new Speedo LZR’s from this weekends Business Week. It is part of a series on Cutting Edge Designers. Check out the great section heading in between paragraphs 3 & 4!
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  • lwiedy | April 18, 2008 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”253922″]So I was in Mass today and I got to thinking…the coolest (or one of the coolest) ever memorial on a jersey/ helmet was the Carl “Spider” Lockhart jersey patch from the 86 Giants…which led me to wonder, is there a specific NFL rule banning patches like this? Wouldn’t the Sean Taylor memorial been cooler if it looked something like the ‘Skins 75th anniversary patch?[/quote]

    This is what you think of at church? ;=) If they made it look like the 75th Anniversary patch, then it would look like the 75th Anniversary patch, you dig?

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”253956″][quote comment=”253922″]So I was in Mass today and I got to thinking…the coolest (or one of the coolest) ever memorial on a jersey/ helmet was the Carl “Spider” Lockhart jersey patch from the 86 Giants…which led me to wonder, is there a specific NFL rule banning patches like this? Wouldn’t the Sean Taylor memorial been cooler if it looked something like the ‘Skins 75th anniversary patch?[/quote]

    This is what you think of at church? ;=) If they made it look like the 75th Anniversary patch, then it would look like the 75th Anniversary patch, you dig?[/quote]

    oh christ…i thought he was in the STATE

  • lwiedy | April 18, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”253965″][quote comment=”253956″][quote comment=”253922″]So I was in Mass today and I got to thinking…the coolest (or one of the coolest) ever memorial on a jersey/ helmet was the Carl “Spider” Lockhart jersey patch from the 86 Giants…which led me to wonder, is there a specific NFL rule banning patches like this? Wouldn’t the Sean Taylor memorial been cooler if it looked something like the ‘Skins 75th anniversary patch?[/quote]

    This is what you think of at church? ;=) If they made it look like the 75th Anniversary patch, then it would look like the 75th Anniversary patch, you dig?[/quote]

    oh christ…i thought he was in the STATE[/quote]

    Oh Christ, indeed! Who knows, you could be right but I think of peculiar things in church, I see them in Massachusetts.

  • Chris is Nashville | April 18, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”253949″]i know there has been in the past discussion about NBA and MLB teams that have had hispanic heritage night and ‘dressed’ their teams in their respective hispanic unis (i.e. here, here, and here).

    the kc royals have just announced (second to last ‘graf) that their official mlb website is http://www.losroyals... (its even highlighted in the banner at the top of the site). i know that most if not all major sports websites are translated into spanish, but are their domains officially the bastardized spanish version?

    i believe that an entire article was written on uw about the uni aspect of this, but what about the website or any promo stuff? my espanol is very limited (the only thing i know is that ‘el nino’ is spanish for…’the nino’), but wouldn’t ‘los royals’ be something close to ‘los reals’ or ‘realkc’? although this isn’t a football/soccer team (i.e. real madrid, real salt lake)[/quote]

    The Royals are the 12th MLB team to have a website en espanol. Joining the D-Backs, White Sox, Cubs, Marlins, Astros, Yanks, Dodgers, Mets, Rays, Padres and Giants. The others make sense to me. Is there a large Hispanic constituency in KC?

  • JN | April 18, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”253973″][quote comment=”253949″]i know there has been in the past discussion about NBA and MLB teams that have had hispanic heritage night and ‘dressed’ their teams in their respective hispanic unis (i.e. here, here, and here).

    the kc royals have just announced (second to last ‘graf) that their official mlb website is http://www.losroyals... (its even highlighted in the banner at the top of the site). i know that most if not all major sports websites are translated into spanish, but are their domains officially the bastardized spanish version?

    i believe that an entire article was written on uw about the uni aspect of this, but what about the website or any promo stuff? my espanol is very limited (the only thing i know is that ‘el nino’ is spanish for…’the nino’), but wouldn’t ‘los royals’ be something close to ‘los reals’ or ‘realkc’? although this isn’t a football/soccer team (i.e. real madrid, real salt lake)[/quote]

    The Royals are the 12th MLB team to have a website en espanol. Joining the D-Backs, White Sox, Cubs, Marlins, Astros, Yanks, Dodgers, Mets, Rays, Padres and Giants. The others make sense to me. Is there a large Hispanic constituency in KC?[/quote]

    i moved out of KC a few years ago (now in NYC), and there was a fairly decent mexican community in the northeast part of town and on southwest boulevard (for all you kc’ers out there please correct me if anything has changed in the last five years).

    i was curious to know if any of those other 11 teams have their domain names in the beforementioned ‘bastardized spanish.’ after a quick check, my question was answered, and indeed, ‘los dbacks’ and ‘los white sox’ do indeed have their own terrible domain names.

    at least i still have my tony pena (sr.) ‘nosotros creemos’ t-shirt from 2003 that has some real spanish on there at least. (and yes…i do still believe!)

  • Walaitis | April 18, 2008 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”253973″][quote comment=”253949″]i know there has been in the past discussion about NBA and MLB teams that have had hispanic heritage night and ‘dressed’ their teams in their respective hispanic unis (i.e. here, here, and here).

    the kc royals have just announced (second to last ‘graf) that their official mlb website is http://www.losroyals... (its even highlighted in the banner at the top of the site). i know that most if not all major sports websites are translated into spanish, but are their domains officially the bastardized spanish version?

    i believe that an entire article was written on uw about the uni aspect of this, but what about the website or any promo stuff? my espanol is very limited (the only thing i know is that ‘el nino’ is spanish for…’the nino’), but wouldn’t ‘los royals’ be something close to ‘los reals’ or ‘realkc’? although this isn’t a football/soccer team (i.e. real madrid, real salt lake)[/quote]

    The Royals are the 12th MLB team to have a website en espanol. Joining the D-Backs, White Sox, Cubs, Marlins, Astros, Yanks, Dodgers, Mets, Rays, Padres and Giants. The others make sense to me. Is there a large Hispanic constituency in KC?[/quote]

    Also note this is not THE official website, but actually ONE OF the official websites. The main website will continue to be … well, whatever it was before, though I would assume, if the Spanish version is “LosRoyals.com”, then the original version should probably be “TheRoyals.com”, right? Just like the Lakers standard jerseys say “The Lakers”, and so on …

  • Robert | April 18, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”253973″][quote comment=”253949″]i know there has been in the past discussion about NBA and MLB teams that have had hispanic heritage night and ‘dressed’ their teams in their respective hispanic unis (i.e. here, here, and here).

    the kc royals have just announced (second to last ‘graf) that their official mlb website is http://www.losroyals... (its even highlighted in the banner at the top of the site). i know that most if not all major sports websites are translated into spanish, but are their domains officially the bastardized spanish version?

    i believe that an entire article was written on uw about the uni aspect of this, but what about the website or any promo stuff? my espanol is very limited (the only thing i know is that ‘el nino’ is spanish for…’the nino’), but wouldn’t ‘los royals’ be something close to ‘los reals’ or ‘realkc’? although this isn’t a football/soccer team (i.e. real madrid, real salt lake)[/quote]

    The Royals are the 12th MLB team to have a website en espanol. Joining the D-Backs, White Sox, Cubs, Marlins, Astros, Yanks, Dodgers, Mets, Rays, Padres and Giants. The others make sense to me. Is there a large Hispanic constituency in KC?[/quote]

    It is strange that the Astros and Rangers do not have Spanish-language sites.

    As for whether KC has a large Hispanic constituency, nearly every Midwestern city does these days. The percentages are not as high as those in the border states, but they are increasing all the time.

  • JN | April 18, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”253980″][quote comment=”253973″][quote comment=”253949″]i know there has been in the past discussion about NBA and MLB teams that have had hispanic heritage night and ‘dressed’ their teams in their respective hispanic unis (i.e. here, here, and here).

    the kc royals have just announced (second to last ‘graf) that their official mlb website is http://www.losroyals... (its even highlighted in the banner at the top of the site). i know that most if not all major sports websites are translated into spanish, but are their domains officially the bastardized spanish version?

    i believe that an entire article was written on uw about the uni aspect of this, but what about the website or any promo stuff? my espanol is very limited (the only thing i know is that ‘el nino’ is spanish for…’the nino’), but wouldn’t ‘los royals’ be something close to ‘los reals’ or ‘realkc’? although this isn’t a football/soccer team (i.e. real madrid, real salt lake)[/quote]

    The Royals are the 12th MLB team to have a website en espanol. Joining the D-Backs, White Sox, Cubs, Marlins, Astros, Yanks, Dodgers, Mets, Rays, Padres and Giants. The others make sense to me. Is there a large Hispanic constituency in KC?[/quote]

    Also note this is not THE official website, but actually ONE OF the official websites. The main website will continue to be … well, whatever it was before, though I would assume, if the Spanish version is “LosRoyals.com”, then the original version should probably be “TheRoyals.com”, right? Just like the Lakers standard jerseys say “The Lakers”, and so on …[/quote]

    yeah…my bad. i noticed this right after i posted it that indeed this (‘losroyals.com’) is just the translated version of the official website which is ‘kcroyals.com.’ (but i’m sure there are many iterations of this that will re-direct you to the official site)

  • lwiedy | April 18, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    Does anyone remember what day several people posted the start of an auction for the Ortiz jersey? I couldn’t find it. I distinctly remember that auction included a photo of them digging up the jersey and no mention of the proceeds going to the Jimmy Fund.

    This started yesterday. Please tell me that someone was not trying to pull this one off?

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    THAT was one of the funniest things i ever heard…

    ah sparky…we hardly knew ye were so colorful

  • Saru | April 18, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    Is there a large Hispanic constituency in KC?

    According to Census numbers, Hispanics make up at least 9% of KC’s population–a number that is surely growing. Lost in talk of “diversity” (which usually focuses on just blacks) is that the numbers of Hispanics and Asians are growing rapidly all over the U.S. Little Rock, where I live, even has a Mexican consulate now. It is not surprising that sports team reach out to these demographics.

  • MLB2PDX | April 18, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    Speaking of the Reds, I thought I remember reading that they were going to get rid of their black and replace it with dark blue…like the ‘old days’. I guess that is not the case? I still see them wearing the black billed hat, etc.

    (I searched the site for Reds comments, but I will admit, I did not spend too long on looking around. Sorry Paul.)

  • Chris O | April 18, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    Wait. Brett Favre retired? How come nobody ever covered this?

  • Kek | April 18, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?

  • Juan Grande | April 18, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”254024″]Wait. Brett Favre retired? How come nobody ever covered this?[/quote]

    So what do you think would be worth more money in Wisconsin? Tickets to the Brett Favre jersey retirement ceremony OR if the Packers went to the Super Bowl last year with everyone thinking Brett was retiring? Hmmmm, see Favre in his last game at the Super Bowl or see his retirement ceremony?

  • concealed78 | April 18, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”253920″]Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.[/quote]

    I wish teams were more creative with their caps these days. Some varying cap styles would be nice, trucker style with a white or yellow panel, the old Padres curved front panel, pinstripes (last used by the Reds in 1998), panel stripes, pinwheel (old Expos) and hell, even a pillbox cap would be something. Caps are just so dark & dull these days.

  • Jim | April 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”254039″][quote comment=”253920″]Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.[/quote]

    I wish teams were more creative with their caps these days. Some varying cap styles would be nice, trucker style with a white or yellow panel, the old Padres curved front panel, pinstripes (last used by the Reds in 1998), panel stripes, pinwheel (old Expos) and hell, even a pillbox cap would be something. Caps are just so dark & dull these days.[/quote]

    That’s a hard one, I went to the Steve Yzerman number retirement and also wish I was at his last game. Too bad it was in Edmonton. If I had to choose, between going to one of them, it would be tough.

  • Walaitis | April 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Better question: Are there any teams in the WNBA that DON’T meet this criteria (assuming there still IS a WNBA, of course)?

  • Jim | April 18, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”254029″][quote comment=”254024″]Wait. Brett Favre retired? How come nobody ever covered this?[/quote]

    So what do you think would be worth more money in Wisconsin? Tickets to the Brett Favre jersey retirement ceremony OR if the Packers went to the Super Bowl last year with everyone thinking Brett was retiring? Hmmmm, see Favre in his last game at the Super Bowl or see his retirement ceremony?[/quote]

    It would be hard to choose between a player’s last game and his number retirement ceremony. I was at Steve Yzerman’s number retirement ceremony, and if I had to choose between that game and his last game ever, it’d be tough. Too bad his last game was in Edmonton.

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”254052″][quote comment=”254039″][quote comment=”253920″]Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.[/quote]

    I wish teams were more creative with their caps these days. Some varying cap styles would be nice, trucker style with a white or yellow panel, the old Padres curved front panel, pinstripes (last used by the Reds in 1998), panel stripes, pinwheel (old Expos) and hell, even a pillbox cap would be something. Caps are just so dark & dull these days.[/quote]

    That’s a hard one, I went to the Steve Yzerman number retirement and also wish I was at his last game. Too bad it was in Edmonton. If I had to choose, between going to one of them, it would be tough.[/quote]

    wait…what?

  • Eric B | April 18, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”254039″][quote comment=”253920″]Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.[/quote]

    I wish teams were more creative with their caps these days. Some varying cap styles would be nice, trucker style with a white or yellow panel, the old Padres curved front panel, pinstripes (last used by the Reds in 1998), panel stripes, pinwheel (old Expos) and hell, even a pillbox cap would be something. Caps are just so dark & dull these days.[/quote]

    agreed. as much as i dislike the color, the marlins aqua colored caps struck a chord with me. i liked those for some reason. maybe because they were different. i loved the mets ice cream man caps, too.

  • Jim | April 18, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”254052″][quote comment=”254039″][quote comment=”253920″]Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.[/quote]

    I wish teams were more creative with their caps these days. Some varying cap styles would be nice, trucker style with a white or yellow panel, the old Padres curved front panel, pinstripes (last used by the Reds in 1998), panel stripes, pinwheel (old Expos) and hell, even a pillbox cap would be something. Caps are just so dark & dull these days.[/quote]

    That’s a hard one, I went to the Steve Yzerman number retirement and also wish I was at his last game. Too bad it was in Edmonton. If I had to choose, between going to one of them, it would be tough.[/quote]

    Realized I quoted wrong post…. dumbass

  • Kek | April 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”254054″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Better question: Are there any teams in the WNBA that DON’T meet this criteria (assuming there still IS a WNBA, of course)?[/quote]
    Apparently you were asleep during English class friend!!!

    My question wasn’t “are there any teams with a singular nickname?”, it was regarding whether or not the singular nickname was an adjective (they modify nouns)

    I’m pretty sure the words Dream, Sky, Sun, Shock, Fever, Liberty, Lynx and Mercury are all nouns.

  • lwiedy | April 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”254061″][quote comment=”254039″][quote comment=”253920″]Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.[/quote]

    I wish teams were more creative with their caps these days. Some varying cap styles would be nice, trucker style with a white or yellow panel, the old Padres curved front panel, pinstripes (last used by the Reds in 1998), panel stripes, pinwheel (old Expos) and hell, even a pillbox cap would be something. Caps are just so dark & dull these days.[/quote]

    agreed. as much as i dislike the color, the marlins aqua colored caps struck a chord with me. i liked those for some reason. maybe because they were different. i loved the mets ice cream man caps, too.[/quote]

    Retail may have something to do with some of that. I know for certain the Angels wanted to bring back the halo in the early 1990’s and New Era frowned upon that, too labor intensive to mass produce.

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”254067″][quote comment=”254054″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Better question: Are there any teams in the WNBA that DON’T meet this criteria (assuming there still IS a WNBA, of course)?[/quote]
    Apparently you were asleep during English class friend!!!

    My question wasn’t “are there any teams with a singular nickname?”, it was regarding whether or not the singular nickname was an adjective (they modify nouns)

    I’m pretty sure the words Dream, Sky, Sun, Shock, Fever, Liberty, Lynx and Mercury are all nouns.[/quote]
    One could argue that “Dream” and “Shock” are verbs

  • Walaitis | April 18, 2008 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”254067″][quote comment=”254054″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Better question: Are there any teams in the WNBA that DON’T meet this criteria (assuming there still IS a WNBA, of course)?[/quote]
    Apparently you were asleep during English class friend!!!

    My question wasn’t “are there any teams with a singular nickname?”, it was regarding whether or not the singular nickname was an adjective (they modify nouns)

    I’m pretty sure the words Dream, Sky, Sun, Shock, Fever, Liberty, Lynx and Mercury are all nouns.[/quote]

    Wow. More tireder than I thought I was today.

  • Wollen1 | April 18, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”254069″][quote comment=”254067″][quote comment=”254054″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Better question: Are there any teams in the WNBA that DON’T meet this criteria (assuming there still IS a WNBA, of course)?[/quote]
    Apparently you were asleep during English class friend!!!

    My question wasn’t “are there any teams with a singular nickname?”, it was regarding whether or not the singular nickname was an adjective (they modify nouns)

    I’m pretty sure the words Dream, Sky, Sun, Shock, Fever, Liberty, Lynx and Mercury are all nouns.[/quote]
    One could argue that “Dream” and “Shock” are verbs[/quote]

    one could even argue that ‘sox’ technically isn’t even a word

    if one were so inclined

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    you can’t cast dispersions on someone just because they’re wearing a cape…superman wore a cape

  • ja | April 18, 2008 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”253865″]Usually, it’s the junior umpire on the crew who has this task. If you attend a game, you’ll be able to see there is always an umpire timing between every inning.[/quote]

    im pretty sure its always the 2nd base umpire, regardless if he is junior, crew chief, whatever. 90% sure on this. as for timing pitches…only really happens when the other manager complains. the stopwatch is used almost exclusively for commercial breaks.

  • Jim W | April 18, 2008 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”254082″][quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    you can’t cast dispersions on someone just because they’re wearing a cape…superman wore a cape[/quote]
    As did Elvis.

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 18, 2008 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”254082″][quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    you can’t cast dispersions on someone just because they’re wearing a cape…superman wore a cape[/quote]
    …or aspersions, if one were so inclined ;-)
    (said the guy who graduated from C.W. Post)

  • Daniel | April 18, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    Im not a fan of the Los (fill in the blank) phenomena. At least the Pirates get it right there, they had the first big time Latin star but at least the aren’t not the Los Buccos. Which brings me to another topic, Roberto Clemente had the affect on the Latin players similar to that of the Jackie Robinson on African American players yet no one mentions his name in the ground breakers discussion. And last season when a movement was started to retire the 21 in the same manner as Robinson’s 42 Robinson’s family came out and essentially called it blasphemy to even mention anyone in the same breath as Jackie… absolute hypocrisy.

  • Kek | April 18, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”254069″][quote comment=”254067″][quote comment=”254054″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Better question: Are there any teams in the WNBA that DON’T meet this criteria (assuming there still IS a WNBA, of course)?[/quote]
    Apparently you were asleep during English class friend!!!

    My question wasn’t “are there any teams with a singular nickname?”, it was regarding whether or not the singular nickname was an adjective (they modify nouns)

    I’m pretty sure the words Dream, Sky, Sun, Shock, Fever, Liberty, Lynx and Mercury are all nouns.[/quote]
    One could argue that “Dream” and “Shock” are verbs[/quote]
    True, but they aren’t adjectives. “Dreamy” or “Shocking” would fit that bill.

    I guess I was thinking more like “a dream” rather than “I dream at night”. And in the context of a sports team “the dream” of a title was what I had thought.

  • Duckstyle | April 18, 2008 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”254075″][quote comment=”254069″][quote comment=”254067″][quote comment=”254054″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Better question: Are there any teams in the WNBA that DON’T meet this criteria (assuming there still IS a WNBA, of course)?[/quote]
    Apparently you were asleep during English class friend!!!

    My question wasn’t “are there any teams with a singular nickname?”, it was regarding whether or not the singular nickname was an adjective (they modify nouns)

    I’m pretty sure the words Dream, Sky, Sun, Shock, Fever, Liberty, Lynx and Mercury are all nouns.[/quote]
    One could argue that “Dream” and “Shock” are verbs[/quote]

    one could even argue that ‘sox’ technically isn’t even a word

    if one were so inclined[/quote]

    The problem is that you can use an adjective to descirbe a person/thing so well, that simply saying the adjective implies you are talking about said person/thing, therefore it becomes a noun, of sorts. Even so, here are a few: DC United, Nationals, Reds(red)…so on a so forth. It’s hard to say that they’re not nouns, even though if just shown that word out of context I’d say they’re all adjectives. But then again, I was always terrible in English classes, so I’m probably way off. Also, I’ve only seen about 6-7 White Sox games this year, and they’ve worn the black alternate all but one game, kinda sad.

  • Stuby | April 18, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”254103″][quote comment=”254069″][quote comment=”254067″][quote comment=”254054″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Better question: Are there any teams in the WNBA that DON’T meet this criteria (assuming there still IS a WNBA, of course)?[/quote]
    Apparently you were asleep during English class friend!!!

    My question wasn’t “are there any teams with a singular nickname?”, it was regarding whether or not the singular nickname was an adjective (they modify nouns)

    I’m pretty sure the words Dream, Sky, Sun, Shock, Fever, Liberty, Lynx and Mercury are all nouns.[/quote]
    One could argue that “Dream” and “Shock” are verbs[/quote]
    True, but they aren’t adjectives. “Dreamy” or “Shocking” would fit that bill.

    I guess I was thinking more like “a dream” rather than “I dream at night”. And in the context of a sports team “the dream” of a title was what I had thought.[/quote]
    Or as in “I have a dream…”, from which it is derived, I believe. I always thought the Detroit Shock name was in reference to shock absorbers.

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”254093″][quote comment=”254082″][quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    you can’t cast dispersions on someone just because they’re wearing a cape…superman wore a cape[/quote]
    …or aspersions, if one were so inclined ;-)
    (said the guy who graduated from C.W. Post)[/quote]

    agreed…i was directly quoting seinfeld…and i was actually thinking about chinging the quote, because one of my (million) pet peeves is (are) malapropisms such as this

    /and FWIW, my ex-wife got her MBA and my old man got his MPA, from post

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote]I always thought the Detroit Shock name was in reference to shock absorbers.[/quote]

    yup…

    piston…shock

    all those (for the most part) WNBA teams take their names from their NBA counterparts, as we all know

    now that isiah is out of a job again, perhaps he can become commish of the wnba and take care of that

  • teamcinnamon | April 18, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    He’s always worn a cape!

  • Jami | April 18, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    Virginia Tech will be wearing special unis for a white out their first game of the year. Don’t know if the link will work or not (first attempt at one) but here is the info on it

  • Jami | April 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  • hott rodd | April 18, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    technically a definition of Jazz is:
    adj – of, pertaining to, or characteristic of jazz.

    Also Magic can easily be used as an adjective:
    magic lamp, magic spells etc..

  • hott rodd | April 18, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Also the Minnesota Twins derives its name from the Twin Cities, which would means that Twins would also be an adjective, which would mean that Minnesota has not one but two professional teams with names that are adjectives.

  • hott rodd | April 18, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    one could also make that case that National in its purist form would also be an adjective:
    Of, relating to, or belonging to a nation as an organized whole; however you could also argue it as a noun:a citizen or subject of a particular nation who is entitled to its protection

  • chance | April 18, 2008 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”254068″][quote comment=”254061″][quote comment=”254039″][quote comment=”253920″]Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.[/quote]

    I wish teams were more creative with their caps these days. Some varying cap styles would be nice, trucker style with a white or yellow panel, the old Padres curved front panel, pinstripes (last used by the Reds in 1998), panel stripes, pinwheel (old Expos) and hell, even a pillbox cap would be something. Caps are just so dark & dull these days.[/quote]

    agreed. as much as i dislike the color, the marlins aqua colored caps struck a chord with me. i liked those for some reason. maybe because they were different. i loved the mets ice cream man caps, too.[/quote]

    Retail may have something to do with some of that. I know for certain the Angels wanted to bring back the halo in the early 1990’s and New Era frowned upon that, too labor intensive to mass produce.[/quote]

    Interesting. How do you know that?

  • teamcinnamon | April 18, 2008 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”254112″][quote]I always thought the Detroit Shock name was in reference to shock absorbers.[/quote]

    yup…

    piston…shock

    all those (for the most part) WNBA teams take their names from their NBA counterparts, as we all know

    now that isiah is out of a job again, perhaps he can become commish of the wnba and take care of that[/quote]

    I really can’t believe that league is still around.

  • Robin | April 18, 2008 at 3:12 pm |

    Wow, is this Uniwatch or a Grammar rodeo

    Ha!

  • hott rodd | April 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    obsessive study…

  • Pat | April 18, 2008 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”254117″][quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    He’s always worn a cape![/quote]

    It wasn’t Frank Costanza though. He was with a man in a cape. If I remember correctly it was his lawyer because he and George’s mother were getting a divorce.

  • Marty Met | April 18, 2008 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”254130″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Also the Minnesota Twins derives its name from the Twin Cities, which would means that Twins would also be an adjective, which would mean that Minnesota has not one but two professional teams with names that are adjectives.[/quote]

    The New York Metropolitan Baseball Club

  • Kris Fulton | April 18, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”254149″][quote comment=”254130″][quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Also the Minnesota Twins derives its name from the Twin Cities, which would means that Twins would also be an adjective, which would mean that Minnesota has not one but two professional teams with names that are adjectives.[/quote]

    The New York Metropolitan Baseball Club[/quote]

    How about the Round Rock Express?

  • Jason | April 18, 2008 at 3:41 pm |

    Wow…I don’t have words for the David Carr interview. As a Texan season ticket holder I have a hard time not punching something every time I see him and his stupid gloves. I’m not surprised that his entire ‘look’ is all about looking good.

  • lwiedy | April 18, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”254135″][quote comment=”254068″][quote comment=”254061″][quote comment=”254039″][quote comment=”253920″]Re.:Larry Doby cap.

    The Washington Senators had a striped cap
    during the 1965-68 period. The cap was navy with the red prezel W outlined in white. The red stripes were
    outlined in the same manner as Doby’s Indians cap.[/quote]

    I wish teams were more creative with their caps these days. Some varying cap styles would be nice, trucker style with a white or yellow panel, the old Padres curved front panel, pinstripes (last used by the Reds in 1998), panel stripes, pinwheel (old Expos) and hell, even a pillbox cap would be something. Caps are just so dark & dull these days.[/quote]

    agreed. as much as i dislike the color, the marlins aqua colored caps struck a chord with me. i liked those for some reason. maybe because they were different. i loved the mets ice cream man caps, too.[/quote]

    Retail may have something to do with some of that. I know for certain the Angels wanted to bring back the halo in the early 1990’s and New Era frowned upon that, too labor intensive to mass produce.[/quote]

    Interesting. How do you know that?[/quote]

    I was told by a New Era rep at the 1992 or 93 Winter Meetings.

    Perhaps times have changed since then but there is a substancial difference in the quantities produced of the “specialty caps” with all the crap on them and a the on-field cap (with replicas, etc.).

    The circumstances from the early 1990’s maybe different now, but until I see someone add something to their game cap along the lines of piping that is an add-on, I will assume the same hold true. Even the extra trim on the BP caps are on one panel that is done well before the cap is assembled.

  • Matt from L.A. | April 18, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    Watcing the Pirates/Cubs game on MLB.TV a foul tipped ball ended up under the chest protector of Ronnie Paulino the Pirates catcher. It somehow got between the bottom of his mask and in behind the protector. Isn’t the mask supposed to protect that? Sorry for no pics, I’m at work.

  • Chad G | April 18, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”254148″][quote comment=”254117″][quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    He’s always worn a cape![/quote]

    It wasn’t Frank Costanza though. He was with a man in a cape. If I remember correctly it was his lawyer because he and George’s mother were getting a divorce.[/quote]

    that’s exactly what the stuff you quoted says…

  • KB | April 18, 2008 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”254026″]I was texting with a friend of mine last night that now lives in Minnesota and he brought up an interesting point. He wondered if the Wild were the only team with a nickname that is an adjective.

    I said I thought so, although language buffs might argue that it actually is a noun insofar as referring to “The Wild” as in “Go out into the wild”. You could argue even in that context, it still is an adjective because it is referring to an assumed noun like “outdoors”.

    All the other singular team nicknames I can think of are nouns though. Any thoughts?[/quote]

    Orlando Magic
    Stanford Cardinal

    Take away the “s:”
    Athletics
    Giants
    Cavaliers
    Ravens
    Browns
    Reds
    Blues

  • Walaitis | April 18, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    From the offices of the Tampa Bay ***** Rays:

    “Whoo Hoo!!!! We got ‘er! We got ‘er workin’ with us for NINE YEARS!!!!!”

    “Um, sir … that contract is for Evan Longoria. Evan, sir. With an N.”

  • teamcinnamon | April 18, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”254148″][quote comment=”254117″][quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    He’s always worn a cape![/quote]

    It wasn’t Frank Costanza though. He was with a man in a cape. If I remember correctly it was his lawyer because he and George’s mother were getting a divorce.[/quote]

    I know that, I was just quoting Estelle Costanza when asked about the caped man.

    She said that he’s always worn one and that he was always into fashion. Paraphrased, of course.

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”254187″][quote comment=”254148″][quote comment=”254117″][quote comment=”254074″]Doesn’t former Yankee employee George Costanza’s father’s lawyer wear a cape?[/quote]

    He’s always worn a cape![/quote]

    It wasn’t Frank Costanza though. He was with a man in a cape. If I remember correctly it was his lawyer because he and George’s mother were getting a divorce.[/quote]

    I know that, I was just quoting Estelle Costanza when asked about the caped man.

    She said that he’s always worn one and that he was always into fashion. Paraphrased, of course.[/quote]

    they can’t find the problem…it’s really getting ridicurous…

  • Kenny | April 18, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”253949″]i know there has been in the past discussion about NBA and MLB teams that have had hispanic heritage night and ‘dressed’ their teams in their respective hispanic unis (i.e. here, here, and here).

    the kc royals have just announced (second to last ‘graf) that their official mlb website is http://www.losroyals... (its even highlighted in the banner at the top of the site). i know that most if not all major sports websites are translated into spanish, but are their domains officially the bastardized spanish version?

    i believe that an entire article was written on uw about the uni aspect of this, but what about the website or any promo stuff? my espanol is very limited (the only thing i know is that ‘el nino’ is spanish for…’the nino’), but wouldn’t ‘los royals’ be something close to ‘los reals’ or ‘realkc’? although this isn’t a football/soccer team (i.e. real madrid, real salt lake)[/quote]

    One of the comments is absolutely hilarious
    Asian night! (Comment #5 by what looks like a asian guy)
    ROS ANGERES RAKERS vs THE CREVERAND CAVARIERS

  • Jim | April 18, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    i moved out of KC a few years ago (now in NYC), and there was a fairly decent mexican community in the northeast part of town and on southwest boulevard (for all you kc’ers out there please correct me if anything has changed in the last five years).

    The Mexican communities on the West Side and Northeast KCMO are still there (although I hear rumblings that the traditional West Side neighborhoods are starting to feel threatened by the gentrification movement that’s finally gotten going in parts of KCMO), and there’s also a visibly growing Mexican community in the older neighborhoods of Olathe – there are something like 2,500 kids in the ESL program, where there were 200 ten years ago. There are just a lot of immigrants coming up I-35 – eventually, Des Moines and Minneapolis will see an impact, as will places up I-29 like Omaha, Sioux Falls, and Fargo

    It makes a lot of sense for the Royals to pursue that market. The KC Wizards of MLS are definitely going after it – games are on the spanish-language radio station, there’s a spanish telecast of the games on cable TV, their big signing this season (Argentinian Claudio Lopez) used to play for Club America, etc.

  • MLB2PDX | April 18, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”254120″]try again.
    http://www.hokiespor...[/quote]

    Nice. I’ve always wondered, and made comments, why teams do not use the symbol of their state more often. Good to see VT will do that…for one game at least. I think it should be done more often. I know the argument is that, besides a few well known states (TX, FL, etc.), many people would not recognize what the symbol is. But they gotta learn sometime. Because me and my major in Geography say so. :-)

  • KT | April 18, 2008 at 5:07 pm |

    We’ve all heard of retiring numbers.

    But retiring a chainsaw?

  • Jets/Mets Fan in Chicagoland | April 18, 2008 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”254217″][quote comment=”254120″]try again.
    http://www.hokiespor...[/quote]

    Nice. I’ve always wondered, and made comments, why teams do not use the symbol of their state more often. Good to see VT will do that…for one game at least. I think it should be done more often. I know the argument is that, besides a few well known states (TX, FL, etc.), many people would not recognize what the symbol is. But they gotta learn sometime. Because me and my major in Geography say so. :-)[/quote]
    I thought that these folks already do that

  • =bg= | April 18, 2008 at 5:43 pm |

    First, great to see The Main Spark’s 1972 card. (If you lived in Cincy as I did during the Big Red Machine years, you’d know that was the name of his pre-game show. The day Dick Wagner fired Sparky is a day that will live in infamy.) Sparky’s grammar is second only to Yogi’s.

    PS;
    Wanna see Barry Bonds without his massive head?
    Sure you do!!

  • Juan Grande | April 18, 2008 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”254120″]try again.
    http://www.hokiespor...[/quote]

    talk about a mash-up Hokie uniform!

  • Original Jim | April 18, 2008 at 5:55 pm |

    Paul, in the minor leagues, the first base umpire always carries a stopwatch. It is used to time the break between innings, so the game is not delayed due to the pitcher throwing warm-ups.

    I believe the actual time allotted is 90 seconds. At that point, the catcher thorws the ball down to second base, and the next inning can begin.

  • lwiedy | April 18, 2008 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”254235″]First, great to see The Main Spark’s 1972 card. (If you lived in Cincy as I did during the Big Red Machine years, you’d know that was the name of his pre-game show. The day Dick Wagner fired Sparky is a day that will live in infamy.) Sparky’s grammar is second only to Yogi’s.

    PS;
    Wanna see Barry Bonds without his massive head?
    Sure you do!![/quote]

    Actually pictured above is a recent card published with the ’72 graphics. The reason that picture stands out is that I don’t believe any ’72 Topps had knit unis. They didn’t debut until the regular season started.

    Here is Sparky’s 1972 Topps.

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 9:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”254246″][quote comment=”254235″]First, great to see The Main Spark’s 1972 card. (If you lived in Cincy as I did during the Big Red Machine years, you’d know that was the name of his pre-game show. The day Dick Wagner fired Sparky is a day that will live in infamy.) Sparky’s grammar is second only to Yogi’s.

    PS;
    Wanna see Barry Bonds without his massive head?
    Sure you do!![/quote]

    Actually pictured above is a recent card published with the ’72 graphics. The reason that picture stands out is that I don’t believe any ’72 Topps had knit unis. They didn’t debut until the regular season started.

    Here is Sparky’s 1972 Topps.[/quote]

    interesting…how do you know that?

  • James Craven | April 18, 2008 at 10:37 pm |

    Isaiah Thomas was fired today as the head coach of the Knicks.

    And in other news, The Civil War has ended with General Robert E. Lee surrendering at Appamaddox, Virginia to General Uylsses S. Grant.

  • Paul Lukas | April 18, 2008 at 10:43 pm |

    There may have been a commenting glitch earlier this evening, but it seems to be fixed now. Comment away!

  • Bob A | April 18, 2008 at 11:12 pm |

    Shorpy comes thru with another great high school football pic from the 1920s.

  • =bg= | April 18, 2008 at 11:12 pm |

    well, whatever, those were the graphics used for Topps in 72.

  • Jordan Pope | April 18, 2008 at 11:16 pm |

    Does anyone have pictures of the new USA tracksuits for the Olympics.

  • LI Phil | April 18, 2008 at 11:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”253923″][quote comment=”253918″]So the Blackhawks wore the special White Sox sweaters, but wouldn’t wear their white socks with them? Oversight, or homage to the Sox never actually wearing white socks?[/quote]
    Not true. They wore white with dark blue sanitaries in ’69 and ’70. Plus, those odd, untucked, stirrup-less outfits of ’76 through ’81 (those of the infamous shorts) were white socks with blue stripes.[/quote]

    the white sox have actually worn white sox in their history

  • James Craven | April 19, 2008 at 12:31 am |

    quote comment=”253986″]“It is strange that the Astros and Rangers do not have Spanish-language sites.”[/quote]

    MRRP! TPIR losing horns.

    Here’s the Astros en espanol site.