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Paging Pedro Feliciano: The 2008 Season Is Leaving Without You

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It’s no secret that I’m not a fan of how the Mets market themselves. But I had high hopes — okay, maybe naïve hopes — for yesterday. It was the old girl’s last coming-out dance, and the team had promised to make the Shea family a big part of the festivities. A few days ago, they announced that they’d be unveiling a logo — their term, not mine — in honor of William Shea during the pregame ceremonies.

Sigh. You can get a glimpse of the “logo,” if you want to call it that, above. That’s the only photo of it I could find, but you get the idea: It’s an NOB. Now, there’s nothing wrong with putting Shea’s name next to the retired numbers, and I’m very happy to hear that his name placard will be displayed at the new stadium next year. But why tell fans you’re gonna unveil a logo if it’s not a logo?

Also: At first I was annoyed to see that the “Shea” lettering had a black drop shadow. Shea died in 1991, long before the team adopted the accursed black trim, so why render his name that way? Then I noticed that the retired numbers now have black drop shadows as well — something they didn’t have last year. So now the occasion of honoring William Shea has become an excuse to debase the whole roster of retirees. Just another thing that other teams do right but the Mets do wrong.

Other things they did wrong yesterday: They wore their black accessories instead of blue; they borrowed Madame Tussad’s wax figure of David Wright, put it on the subway, and let it keep wearing a numberless jersey instead of a proper one; they didn’t let this guy throw out the first pitch; they didn’t exhume Lindsey Nelson’s corpse to do the play-by-play; and a key member of their bullpen missed most of the game because his route from the last road trip to Opening Day somehow went through Puerto Rico.

Oh, and they played like shit and lost. Sigh.

On a brighter note: Today’s my mom’s birthday, so I’ll be spending most of the day with the ’rents. Everyone behave while I’m gone. Mom, if you’re reading this (or, more likely, if Pop is reading it to you), have a great birthday morning — I’ll be there in a couple of hours.

Uni Watch News Ticker: “My wife just qualified for the paralympic swim team, which will be heading to Beijing this summer for the Paralympic Games,” writes Pat Kerley. “I guess nothing says you just made a swimming team like giving you a hockey jersey. These championships were in Minneapolis, so what makes this a little funnier is that they then wore their hockey jerseys to pregame introductions at a Twins game. I have more photos here.” … Nike has unveiled some Olympics gear. … Awesome ABA ref’s jersey for sale here (with thanks to Jason Dulin). … Yesterday I mentioned something about the Akeem-era Houston Cougars wearing different uni numbers at home than while on the road. That led to this note from Ken Singer: “It used to be a high school rule in New York that the home team wore even numbers and the visitors wore odd numbers. When my dad first started taking me to games in the late ’60s, I remember noticing that the visitors always had odd numbers. My number in JV basketball from 1975–77 was 14 at home and 15 away. These were leftover jerseys from the varsity team. But when I played varsity in 1978, my number was 14 for both home and road, so the rule changed in there somewhere.” … The Red Sox championship rings look like this. “You can’t see it in the photo, but one side displays the name and number of each player with the B logo flanked by trophies won during the current regime,” explains Brian Corbett. “For instance, Tek has two trophies and Beckett has just one.” … Still more confusion regarding the Rangers’ home and road caps, as Joe Poll provided this photo of two ushers during the team’s home opener. As you can see, one’s wearing a white T, and the other one has the red T.” … Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero. … Second entry on this Q&A page has some good info on the Royals’ powder blues (with thanks to Matt McLaughlin). … Remember this? Looks like we’ll be seeing more of it next week, which I count as good news. The 42 celebration is one of the few unqualified successes of Selig’s tenure. … More city-specific logo mashups, this time for Denver (by Denver Gregg) and Atlanta (by Mike Duchock). … Truly outstanding vintage track uni available here (nice find by Michael Kimmins). … Tyler Kepner points out that Leo Nuñez has “El CD” printed on his glove (plus he apparently wore two undershirts yesterday). Anyone know what that’s about? … Tyler also reports that the Yanks have new road dugout jackets with a “New York” insignia. I like. … Ben Nickerson notes that Jose Calderon of the Raptors threw out the first pitch for last Saturday’s Jays/Bosox game and wore a Blue Jays jersey with a ribbon of some sort. Anyone..? … Jersey-o-rama at Fenway yesterday, as various Celtics, Patriots, and Bruins were on hand for the ring and trophy ceremonies. And Billy Bucks threw out the first pitch — good for him. … Advance word from an anonymous source regarding the new Team Canada hockey jerseys that will be released later this month for the World Championships: “Basically, it’s a ‘vintage’-style jersey that looks like something you’d buy a four-year-old. The white jerseys have red shoulders, which would look nice if it was done traditionally, but it comes off looking cheap. Same Canada crest as usual on the front, but cheapo little crests NOT on the shoulders but the elbow-area. Bad striping (you’ll see). Oh, and like all Nike stuff, it’s got the swoosh on the upper right chest. Overall it’s plain, in a bad way. The red jerseys are a little better, but it’s like comparing a pound of crap to a spoonful. In the end, they both stink.” … Turns out the University of Wisconsin folks aren’t the only ones who like to sue people over uniform trademark infringement. … MLB footwear notes from Mark Mihalik: Yuniesky Betancourt wore silver cleats in yesterday’s game in Tampa, and Manny Ramirez wore these cleats for the pregame ceremonies but changed into these for the game (here’s another view).

 

197 comments to Paging Pedro Feliciano: The 2008 Season Is Leaving Without You

  • Matt Lesser | April 9, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    I think the Red Sox accomplished something that hasn’t been done before, and if it has, very seldom. It appears they had the Larry O’Brien, Lombardi, World Series trophies, along with the Stanley Cup, all in one place.

  • Joe H | April 9, 2008 at 8:54 am |

    Check out this auction…had no idea he had a custom pouch added.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    [quote]Today’s my mom’s birthday, so I’ll be spending most of the day with the ’rents. Everyone behave while I’m gone. Mom, if you’re reading this (or, more likely, if Pop is reading it to you), have a great birthday morning — I’ll be there in a couple of hours.[/quote]

    such a good boy

  • Yankee Hank | April 9, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    I Am a NY-er at heart, though i cannot stand the Mets…but I have to ask…if Shea is going away like Yankee this season, why isnt there any hoopla over it? I Mean there were what, a couple of times Shea was important, right? The Beatles…the Game 6 moment, the Ventura HR in 1999, the Yankees winning the 2000 WS in Game 5? I think that is it…;-)

    But that Shea NOB LOGO sux! That is NOT the way to commemorate a man who is a god to these Mets Folk

  • Alex Kibler | April 9, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    I swear the logo in the middle of the black ribbon is the new Jays logo. I’ll look to see why it’s up there.

  • Adrian | April 9, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    [quote comment=”249863″]I swear the logo in the middle of the black ribbon is the new Jays logo. I’ll look to see why it’s up there.[/quote]

    Looks like a green ribbon. Wouldn’t be shocked if it was some kind of Earth Day promotion coming up.

  • Walaitis | April 9, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”249866″][quote comment=”249863″]I swear the logo in the middle of the black ribbon is the new Jays logo. I’ll look to see why it’s up there.[/quote]

    Looks like a green ribbon. Wouldn’t be shocked if it was some kind of Earth Day promotion coming up.[/quote]

    Zooming in (without photo editing equipment, mind you), it definitely looks like the Jay Head logo in the middle of a dark green ribbon – making sure people know the Blue Jays are for saving the earth, I guess? I don’t suppose they could do that by, oh, I don’t know … not closing the dome and pumping in artificial air/heat for sporting events that were meant to take place outside?

  • James | April 9, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    Not only did they add a dropshadow to the Mets’ retired numbers, it looks like they changed the number style as well, especially on that 37 (compare it with the old number).

  • Ash | April 9, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    No word on the tourney contest?

  • Kevin | April 9, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    Manny’s white glove that was disallowed by MLB…

  • Joey Guns | April 9, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero.

    Don’t forget Anthony Reyes…….

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  • Paul Lukas | April 9, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment=”249875″]No word on the tourney contest?[/quote]

    Vince hasn’t gotten back to me yet with the results. Tomorrow, I’m sure.

  • diz | April 9, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    Some casual sponsorship related news there. Dunno why the BBC insist on calling it part of Lanarkshire, and also what kind of point Jack Law is trying to make there. It’s not as if Gretna players are going to go to Subway before a match either (or would do if they could afford to.)

    Wonder if the clubs will push the “social responsibility” angle or have a new sponsor lined up for next year.

    /me waits for the usual debate that invariably ignores team colours and base design elements as a form of identification

  • Danny | April 9, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    This question was asked yesterday – It’s probably been asked, but why does Tennessee’s women’s basketball team wear blue and the men don’t have it? Are there any other teams that have gender specific?

    I can only speak about Tennessee. The Lady Vols have used light blue as an accent color for as long as I can remember, back to the 70’s. It’s actually part of the Lady Vols logo. I believe all Lady Vols teams use blue in some form.
    The basketball men used light blue or grey in the 70’s and eighties. Eventually all the men sports started using black as an accent, which as a traditionalist, I hate. The only men’s sports uni that has no black is the football home jersey, which is all orange and white.

  • Original Jim | April 9, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    The previous number style used on the Mets’ retired numbers was just a generic block number. I think it looks pretty cheap.

    I know you don’t like the black drop shadow, but the numer style used on the current numbers is identical to what is worn on the field, so at least there’s some consistency (if not historical accuracy).

  • Kevin | April 9, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”249876″]Manny’s white glove that was disallowed by MLB…


    link

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 9, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    Things just keep getting worse and worse with the Mets. Just makes their 2006 playoff failure hurt more, because they’re never going to make it back, they’re never going to wear their actual home uniforms in home games with any degree of regularity, they’re never going to “ditch the black,” and they’re never going to be able to compete with the Yankees, either on the field or uni-wise.

    There’s only so much a fan can take.

  • Jason Gomez | April 9, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    Anyone else watching the womens game bothered by Stanford wearing Black? I know their colors are Red n White but the whole black jersey just didnt look right.

  • Tony in Erie | April 9, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    I’m curious: I’m not a UniWatch newbie by any means, but I’m really curious: has anyone ever tried to make the long pants thing against the uniform rules?

    In this photo in the article, the long pants look so bad, and its so UN-uniform. Check out the ONE man wearing stirrups.

    Why are teams allowed to do this? My hometown SeaWolves all wear the stirrups…why can’t everyone? Seriously? Its called a “uniform” for a reason.

    I am sure some of you will say, “well, thats the point of this site, that you ‘get it’.”

    Why isn’t baseball seriously taking this into consideration? Are they and I missed the conversation?

    They penalize basketball players for not wearing the right color shoes…they banned long shorts in basketball (I think)… Whats the hold up here?

  • Chad | April 9, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    i mentioned a few days ago that the mets were going to get rickrolled from an online poll. now every 8th inning they’ll be hearing this. there’s also a full shot of the shea emblem on the visible on the wall

  • DJ | April 9, 2008 at 9:45 am |

    They penalize basketball players for not wearing the right color shoes…they banned long shorts in basketball (I think)… Whats the hold up here?

    To put teeth in any uniform rules, they would have to make it part of the collective bargaining agreement

  • Cosmo | April 9, 2008 at 9:45 am |

    Anyone know where I can get one of those Yankee jackets? They’re much better than the ones with the script “Yankees” on them but I can’t find them anywhere.

  • Chad Johnson | April 9, 2008 at 9:45 am |

    Those aren’t ushers at the Ranger game. That’s Claude Osteen, a former big league pitcher and coach, and another former player. They still sell all of those hats in the gift shop in the new performance material.

  • DrBear | April 9, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    I don’t know if it (rven home/odd road numbers in high school basketball) was a specific rule but it was widespread in the 70s – our high school had even/odd jerseys for home-road. And one of the schools in our conference retired a number for an all-state player and the trophy case had two jerseys – 22 home, 23 road.

    I graduated in 75 so I’m not sure when this was changed.

    One other interesting uniform note from that time – they changed the rules on lines on jerseys, possibly because of Marquette’s “bumblebee’ unis. Our school had little racing stripes on the front
    (above and below the school name, in a baseball type script, and the number at its lower right as you face the jersey) and back (above and below the number) for its road jerseys in 1974, when they put in a rule – no striping on the body of the jersey except for the four inches on the side panels. So we had to get new unis – but they didn’t arrive until January. So for the first few games of the season, our team had to wear white at home and on the road because they were the only legal jerseys we had. (The white ones had the team name above and below the number but that was legal – sort of like
    POLAR
    21
    BEARS
    Sadly, I saw my school play this past winter, in horribly plain jerseys that weren’t quite Frocks for Jocks, but could have been.)
    Sorry about the long old-guy rambling.

  • Shaftman | April 9, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”249885″]I’m curious: I’m not a UniWatch newbie by any means, but I’m really curious: has anyone ever tried to make the long pants thing against the uniform rules?

    In this photo in the article, the long pants look so bad, and its so UN-uniform. Check out the ONE man wearing stirrups.

    Why are teams allowed to do this? My hometown SeaWolves all wear the stirrups…why can’t everyone? Seriously? Its called a “uniform” for a reason.

    I am sure some of you will say, “well, thats the point of this site, that you ‘get it’.”

    Why isn’t baseball seriously taking this into consideration? Are they and I missed the conversation?

    They penalize basketball players for not wearing the right color shoes…they banned long shorts in basketball (I think)… Whats the hold up here?[/quote]

    I’m not picking on you Tony but we can’t have it both ways. We rail on the NFL for being the “No Fun League” due their massive restrictions and then we turn around and rail on MLB for not having enough restrictions. Which one is better? I don’t really know, but I do know that if nothing else we should be consistent.

  • al | April 9, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    Justin Chamberlains hat is so flat, it is almost inverted …
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  • chance | April 9, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”249889″]Anyone know where I can get one of those Yankee jackets? They’re much better than the ones with the script “Yankees” on them but I can’t find them anywhere.[/quote]

    Try eBay. MLB’s online shop has been notoriously slow at times.

  • chance | April 9, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”249892″]
    I’m not picking on you Tony but we can’t have it both ways. We rail on the NFL for being the “No Fun League” due their massive restrictions and then we turn around and rail on MLB for not having enough restrictions. Which one is better? I don’t really know, but I do know that if nothing else we should be consistent.[/quote]

    Speak for yourself – I am very consistent. I think the NFL is absolutely correct, and MLB should take a page from their book when it comes to uniform standards.

  • Morte | April 9, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    I think my comment disappeared…

  • Joey Guns | April 9, 2008 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”249893″]Justin Chamberlains hat is so flat, it is almost inverted …
    http://sports-ak.esp...

    JOBA, not Justin

  • Shaftman | April 9, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”249895″][quote comment=”249892″]
    I’m not picking on you Tony but we can’t have it both ways. We rail on the NFL for being the “No Fun League” due their massive restrictions and then we turn around and rail on MLB for not having enough restrictions. Which one is better? I don’t really know, but I do know that if nothing else we should be consistent.[/quote]

    Speak for yourself – I am very consistent. I think the NFL is absolutely correct, and MLB should take a page from their book when it comes to uniform standards.[/quote]

    I was being serious Tony; I wasn’t picking on you. I was being more general…you know, uniwatch as a whole.

    That being said, I lean more towards the MLB way of it. I would rather have a little creativity and less uniformity in my sports. And I stress a “little”. No need to have infielders have one set of pants, outfielders another, and the battery another (ala USFL, I believe).

  • Joey Guns | April 9, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”249886″]i mentioned a few days ago that the mets were going to get rickrolled from an online poll. now every 8th inning they’ll be hearing this. there’s also a full shot of the shea emblem on the visible on the wall[/quote]

    Not exactly. The Mets knew what had happened, so they changed the rules. They’re going to play the top 6 songs during the first 6 home games, and sort of have a re-vote. They did play the Rick Astley song yesterday though. Tonight at the game, Bon Jovi’s “Living On A Prayer” will be played.

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  • chance | April 9, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”249901″][quote comment=”249895″][quote comment=”249892″]
    I’m not picking on you Tony but we can’t have it both ways. We rail on the NFL for being the “No Fun League” due their massive restrictions and then we turn around and rail on MLB for not having enough restrictions. Which one is better? I don’t really know, but I do know that if nothing else we should be consistent.[/quote]

    Speak for yourself – I am very consistent. I think the NFL is absolutely correct, and MLB should take a page from their book when it comes to uniform standards.[/quote]

    I was being serious Tony; I wasn’t picking on you. I was being more general…you know, uniwatch as a whole.
    [/quote]

    I know, but any time you get any two people together, no matter who they are you will find inconsistencies between their positions on some subjects.

    Unless you can find posters who have inconsistent positions on the NFL and MLB uniform regulations, I don’t know what you’re expecting to do….

  • Hank | April 9, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”249883″]Things just keep getting worse and worse with the Mets. Just makes their 2006 playoff failure hurt more, because they’re never going to make it back, they’re never going to wear their actual home uniforms in home games with any degree of regularity, they’re never going to “ditch the black,” and they’re never going to be able to compete with the Yankees, either on the field or uni-wise.

    There’s only so much a fan can take.[/quote]

    Whoo, boy. And they say us Phillies’ fans are all doom and gloom. (But it is nice to read about. :-))

  • Hank | April 9, 2008 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”249877″]Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero.

    Don’t forget Anthony Reyes…….

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    I don’t get the flat-brim look, either. And I’m not buying the ‘batter can’t see my eyes’ excuse either.
    At least the other guys don’t look as big a goofus as Cordero does. Maybe it’s the flat brim and the big round head?

  • Juan Grande | April 9, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?

  • K-Walk | April 9, 2008 at 10:30 am |

    Is anyone else going through college football withdrawl?

    Here’s to hoping that these never happen again…

    …and that this would just go away.

    Can you say glory days? (I’m going to miss seeing Favre on Sunday’s…)

    Can you say national champion?

  • Walaitis | April 9, 2008 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I don’t think Jackie Robinson and the effect he had on the game can be talked about “too much”. If it were once a month or every week, sure, but how many kids stop getting excited over Christmas because it happens each and every year?

  • K-Walk | April 9, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I agree. Well, I could understand having Jackie Robinson Day every year – but having the players wear #42 every year is a little much.

  • Ash | April 9, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    No word on the tourney contest?

    Vince hasn’t gotten back to me yet with the results. Tomorrow, I’m sure.

    Not a problem. Davidson was one of my teams so I’m interested to see how I did.

  • Greg | April 9, 2008 at 10:37 am |

    I found several basketball number clues when I looked around.

    College basketball first allowed the numbers “1” and “2” in 99-2000. It notes that the reason for their previous banning was “confusion by referees”.

    In 2003-2004, the Iowa High School Association felt inclined to note that the even-at-home/odd-on-road convention was NOT a rule. In 2005-2006 the Southwest Iowa Athletic Directors still felt it important to mention this at their annual meeting. I think Iowa may have been one of the last places this survived.

    I found this mention on an the International School Sports Federation: “International games mandate the numbers from 4 to 15. At the high school and college levels, numbers generally range from 1-5, 10-15, 20-25, 30-35, 40-45, and 50-55, plus 0 and 00; in NCAA basketball, these are the only legal numbers. In some states, high school teams must wear even-numbered jerseys if they’re the home team and odd-numbered jerseys if they’re considered the visitor. Also, teams may have either 0 or 00, but not both. Uniform numbers in the NBA are generally the same, but digits greater than 5 have always been allowed (e.g., all-time great Bill Russell wore #6 with the Boston Celtics, and current star Andrei Kirilenko wears #47 with the Utah Jazz), and some players have worn numbers above 55 (like Dennis Rodman, who wore #91 while playing with the Chicago Bulls and George Mikan, who wore #99 with the Minneapolis Lakers).”

    But, I haven’t found mention of a state still having such a rule.

  • chance | April 9, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I think you’re right on both counts.

  • JT | April 9, 2008 at 10:39 am |

    I don’t really mind the flat-brim look. Sure, it looks kinda odd at first but if that’s how they feel comfortable wearing the hat, so be it.

  • derek | April 9, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    I cant find any photos but last night some of the Norfolk Tides players had their name plates like upside down so it formed a U. Any one else catch this?

  • The Ol Goaler | April 9, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”249891″]I don’t know if it (rven home/odd road numbers in high school basketball) was a specific rule but it was widespread in the 70s – our high school had even/odd jerseys for home-road. And one of the schools in our conference retired a number for an all-state player and the trophy case had two jerseys – 22 home, 23 road.

    I graduated in 75 so I’m not sure when this was changed.[/quote]
    The even/odd split for high-school basketball uniforms was the rule in Missouri as late as 1970/71 (my senior year); by the time I graduated from Mizzou and started broadcasting high-school hoops in Arkansas for the ’75/76 season, the Blytheville HS “Chickasaws” were using two-digit “odd” numbers both home and road… no single digits, just # 11, 13, 15, 21, 23, etc. They’ve kept that tradition ever since!

  • GoTerriers | April 9, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    Anyone else surprised that the Red Sox didn’t break out the gold-trimmed jerseys for the home opener yesterday?

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”249883″]Things just keep getting worse and worse with the Mets. Just makes their 2006 playoff failure hurt more, because they’re never going to make it back, they’re never going to wear their actual home uniforms in home games with any degree of regularity, they’re never going to “ditch the black,” and they’re never going to be able to compete with the Yankees, either on the field or uni-wise.

    There’s only so much a fan can take.[/quote]

    ya gotta believe, man…the season’s not even a week old

    yeah…so the unis aren’t what we want, and they insist on black caps and socks and drop shadows and long pants and flat brims (im talking to you, jose) and no stirrups and rick peterson wearing his jacket in 95 degree weather forcing charlie samuels to lay out the black caps (because black and blue DON’T GO TOGETHER…HELLO)…

    but…dammit…they’re OUR boys, and i won’t have you jumping ship YET

    christ, tho…can we please beat the goddam phillies ONCE in a while???

  • Ash | April 9, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    At the high school and college levels, numbers generally range from 1-5, 10-15, 20-25, 30-35, 40-45, and 50-55, plus 0 and 00; in NCAA basketball, these are the only legal numbers.

    I believe that’s so refs can identify which player committed a foul by only having to signal their hands once.

  • Lawrence Boucher | April 9, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”249894″][quote comment=”249889″]Anyone know where I can get one of those Yankee jackets? They’re much better than the ones with the script “Yankees” on them but I can’t find them anywhere.[/quote]

    Try eBay. MLB’s online shop has been notoriously slow at times.[/quote]

    The auction states this is the first time the Yankees have had a road jacket and I certainly can’t remember them having one previously. But is that true?

  • Poisso3 | April 9, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    From Yesterday’s comments:
    [quote comment=”249760″]It’s probably been asked, but why does Tennessee’s women’s basketball team wear blue and the men don’t have it? Are there any other teams that have gender specific colors?[/quote]

    I went to college at Louisiana Tech university, and our women’s basketball program has had a long standing rivalry with the Lady Vols since the begining of the Women’s Championship. It was said that Pat Summit added the blue to the Lady Vols uniforms as a sign of respect for Lady Techster’s former head coach, Leon Barmore, whom she saw as a mentor and a friend. I have not found anything to support this, but the guy who told me this knows his stuff and has never been wrong on other factoids.

  • Juan Grande | April 9, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”249914″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I agree. Well, I could understand having Jackie Robinson Day every year – but having the players wear #42 every year is a little much.[/quote]

    This is what I’m saying. I would never want to stop honoring Jackie (speeches, TV specials, etc.) but everyone wearing #42 every year is a bit much. I’m afraid, however, that no matter how much you promote Jackie’s strength and integrity, his legacy will fade with the youth. How many people under the age of 25 really understand what Martin Luther King Jr. did? How many kids under 25 can really truly comprehend what life was like in the Jim Crow era? How many kids under 25 have any idea about the Negro Leagues? I think that no matter how we honor the past, the youth will be farther and farther away from it and eventually it will be gone. By wearing #42 every five years it becomes an event, something special, something to make a kid ask “Dad, who’s Jackie Robinson?” By wearing #42 every year it will eventually lose its impact.

    Case in point, Sean Taylor’s #21. When the ‘Skins wore their stickers and honored him it was a very nice and fitting honor for a murdered teammate. When the NFL got invovled and everyone started wearing #21, it lost its impact and became widely denegrated, even here on Uni-Watch.

  • chance | April 9, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    Changing the subject slightly, the Portland Beavers’ new uniforms are a thing of beauty (except for the Adidas logo).

    But how is it that a AAA team can get it so right when the major league club blows it?

  • Tony in Erie | April 9, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    I think kids under 25 understand MLK’s legacy. I really do.

    However, I think kids under 25 might be misguided about the Jim Crow Era.

    Heck, I’m a white guy, what the hell do I know anyway?

    But without Jackie Robinson being into the majors and SUCCEEDING, despite everything he went through, there’d be no integration. Imagine if he’d done what he was previously known for and was a temper tornado in the major leagues? You’d NEVER have seen another black man in the majors, at least for a long time.

    I think that players HAVING THE OPTION to wear #42 once a year is wonderful and shouldn’t be questioned. God Bless Ken Griffey Jr for forcing MLB to do it.

    Which still leads me to ask : we can’t have a rule about short pants but there had to be a big inquiry to letting players have a number tribute to baseball’s second most influential player?

  • ElenaE | April 9, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    Anthony Reyes always claimed he wore the flat brim because he was near sighted and could see better. He had Lasik surgery in off-season. I can’t tell if his cap brim is still totally flat. But the stirrups make up for it [not that I mind the flat brim].
    http://sports.yahoo....

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”249877″]Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero.

    Don’t forget Anthony Reyes…….

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.minorleag...

    His hat is awful but check out the [quote comment=”249912″]Is anyone else going through college football withdrawl?

    Here’s to hoping that these never happen again…

    …and that this would just go away.

    Can you say glory days? (I’m going to miss seeing Favre on Sunday’s…)

    Can you say national champion?[/quote]
    !

    I was until I started trolling the schools’ websites to check on Spring Practice news.

    As for the Ducks, I love their unis, but prefer those of the Akili Smith era.

  • Mark in Shiga | April 9, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”249914″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I agree. Well, I could understand having Jackie Robinson Day every year – but having the players wear #42 every year is a little much.[/quote]

    I disagree; if #42 is going to be kept out of circulation on days other than Jackie Robinson Day, then the #42 thing should be done very year. It’s one day out of about 200, and it happens toward the beginning of the season when the opening games are over and the summer holidays and pennant race haven’t yet arrived. There won’t be much overshadowing Jackie Robinson Day in future Aprils.

    If it only happened every five years, players whose careers happened to only span the 61st through 64th anniversaries of 1947, for example, would be denied the chance to wear #42 just because of a quirk in the calendar.

    I was really upset when Selig banned #42 for every team, and I think that this anniversary thing is the best way he could possibly have redeemed himself. I hope this is the start of a new tradition that continues every year.

  • Gary | April 9, 2008 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”249897″][quote comment=”249893″]Justin Chamberlains hat is so flat, it is almost inverted …
    http://sports-ak.esp...

    JOBA, not Justin[/quote]

    Joba was born Justin Louis Chamberlain.

  • Nicole | April 9, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    My guess is that it’s not “El CD” but “El Cid”. El Cid is a hero and nobleman from 11th century Spain who’s story has reached epic mythical proportions. He’s like a national hero in Spain.

    He’s also the topic of the oldest known preserved epic Spanish poem which every Spanish major (like me) had to read. It’s called Cantar de Mio Cid and it would have been performed by a minstrel or what-have-you.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 9, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”249906″][quote comment=”249883″]Things just keep getting worse and worse with the Mets. Just makes their 2006 playoff failure hurt more, because they’re never going to make it back, they’re never going to wear their actual home uniforms in home games with any degree of regularity, they’re never going to “ditch the black,” and they’re never going to be able to compete with the Yankees, either on the field or uni-wise.

    There’s only so much a fan can take.[/quote]

    Whoo, boy. And they say us Phillies’ fans are all doom and gloom. (But it is nice to read about. :-))[/quote]

    Misery loves company, as they say. ;-)

    Incredibly, they’ve played the last three games just like they played every game last September: lifeless, gutless, heartless; bad defense, bullpen meltdowns, unable to score runs while the other team gets two-out hit after two-out hit, and the players just don’t seem to care.

    All this might be tolerable if the team Got It™, but not only do they not Get It™, they Get It™ less than all the other teams in MLB combined. For chr*ssake, they wear their road caps at home!!! And not just occasionally, in practically every home game!! NO other team does that. And the Mets do it for the stupidest reason imaginable.

    When applying Paul’s “Is it good, or is it stupid?” test to the Mets, the answer is invariably “Stupid, stupid, stupid!” Hence this morning’s main article. 10 years of the STUPID black caps is enough, thank you very much.

    The Phillies have one home uniform and one road uniform, both of which are very nice, and a new alternate to be worn only occasionally, which is also very nice. The Mets have a home uniform which they never wear, which was great until it was sullied with black trim, as was the road uniform (both are now merely decent), and a bunch of alternates and combinations that range from fairly decent (plain whites with blue caps) to downright awful (white or pinstripes with either black cap, home or road black jerseys with all-black cap).

    The Phillies Get It™. The Yankees Get It™. The Mets don’t, and they never will.

  • Derek | April 9, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”249938″][quote comment=”249897″][quote comment=”249893″]Justin Chamberlains hat is so flat, it is almost inverted …
    http://sports-ak.esp...

    JOBA, not Justin[/quote]

    Joba was born Justin Louis Chamberlain.[/quote]
    Right but he is called joba

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”249935″][quote comment=”249877″]Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero.

    Don’t forget Anthony Reyes…….

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.minorleag...

    His hat is awful but check out the [quote comment=”249912″]Is anyone else going through college football withdrawl?

    Here’s to hoping that these never happen again…

    …and that this would just go away.

    Can you say glory days? (I’m going to miss seeing Favre on Sunday’s…)

    Can you say national champion?[/quote]
    !

    I was until I started trolling the schools’ websites to check on Spring Practice news.

    As for the Ducks, I love their unis, but prefer those of the Akili Smith era.[/quote]

    Sorry, my page loaded strangely, Reyes’ stirrups.

  • John T | April 9, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”249879″]Some casual sponsorship related news there. Dunno why the BBC insist on calling it part of Lanarkshire, and also what kind of point Jack Law is trying to make there. It’s not as if Gretna players are going to go to Subway before a match either (or would do if they could afford to.)

    Wonder if the clubs will push the “social responsibility” angle or have a new sponsor lined up for next year.

    /me waits for the usual debate that invariably ignores team colours and base design elements as a form of identification[/quote]

    The bigger issue is that Alcohol sponsors 5 clubs in EPL and SPL, also there are 4 online gambling oufits in EPL. It is distressing to see kids going around as billboards for Carlsberg and 32red. I know that every club has shirt sponsors, but there should be some guidelines for this, such as France having a ban on Alcohol and cigarette ads.

    Or they could just ditch the shirt sponsors altogether…..jeez that would be too easy

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”249895″][quote comment=”249892″]
    I’m not picking on you Tony but we can’t have it both ways. We rail on the NFL for being the “No Fun League” due their massive restrictions and then we turn around and rail on MLB for not having enough restrictions. Which one is better? I don’t really know, but I do know that if nothing else we should be consistent.[/quote]

    Speak for yourself – I am very consistent. I think the NFL is absolutely correct, and MLB should take a page from their book when it comes to uniform standards.[/quote]

    i TOTALLY agree chance…uniforms should be just that…i’ve said it before, so i won’t go on ad infinitum, and as much as it pains me to say, i’d rather have 25 guys dressed exactly the same (even if they all wear long and baggy pants, flat brims, and softball alts-all of which i detest) than 25 stylin’ individualists in a rag-tag hodge-podge manner

    of course, im anal retentive (think melvin udall)…

    /good times, noodle salad

  • Don | April 9, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    I was at the Mets game yesterday and when they came out and I saw the black caps and accessories I said to my wife Paul from the uniwatchblog is not going to be happy. I hate the black accessories and wish they would just wear the blue ones instead. Especially on the last home opener at Shea.

  • Tony in Erie | April 9, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    Oh, and NFL used to have baggy sleeves, didn’t they? Now they have that Saran Wrap look.

    Sort of the same vein as the pants debate I’m cooking today.

    Don, I’m curious — what did your wife say about “paul from the uniwatchblog” ? My girlfriend always gives me that ‘stinky fart smell’ face. HAHA

  • Patrick | April 9, 2008 at 11:41 am |
  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”249952″]Fantastic![/quote]

    i’ll even overlook the brim… WE HAVE STIRRUPS!

  • Robert | April 9, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”249917″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I think you’re right on both counts.[/quote]

    I agree as well, except that I think once a decade would suffice. The man has been sufficiently honored. Enough already.

  • Philly Al in NoCal | April 9, 2008 at 11:59 am |

    re; odd/even road/home basketball uniform numbers. The Philadelphia Catholic League had the same system when I was in high school. The reason being there would be no mistaking by the scorers’ table the number of fingers a referee held up when assessing a foul.

  • Tony in Erie | April 9, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    Robert, buddy, this isn’t Sean Taylor we’re talking about.

    Jackie effing Robinson.

  • Walaitis | April 9, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”249951″]Oh, and NFL used to have baggy sleeves, didn’t they? Now they have that Saran Wrap look.

    Sort of the same vein as the pants debate I’m cooking today.

    Don, I’m curious — what did your wife say about “paul from the uniwatchblog” ? My girlfriend always gives me that ‘stinky fart smell’ face. HAHA[/quote]

    I have to disagree with you, Tony. The tight football jerseys serve a purpose (so the other team can’t grab you) … baseball pajama pants are for no reason but *fashion*.

  • Anthony Verna | April 9, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote]Turns out the University of Wisconsin folks aren’t the only ones who like to sue people over uniform trademark infringement. [/quote]

    Actually, that’s a lawsuit over copyright infringement – the mouldings of the original suits are sculptural works, which fall under copyright law.

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”249951″]Oh, and NFL used to have baggy sleeves, didn’t they? Now they have that Saran Wrap look.

    Sort of the same vein as the pants debate I’m cooking today.

    Don, I’m curious — what did your wife say about “paul from the uniwatchblog” ? My girlfriend always gives me that ‘stinky fart smell’ face. HAHA[/quote]

    My wife has embraced my quirks. But as I mentioned the other day, every time I mention terms loke “logo creep” or “SOD”, she begins to fiegn narcolepsy, at least I think!

    And BTW, I THANK ALL DEITIES,(as should all of you), that I wasn’t around yesterday for the Physical Education Debate.

  • Patrick | April 9, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    Regarding the women’s Final last night: Stanford’s school color IS their nickname, so you’d think they would maybe have uniforms in that color, but instead their black road uniforms take a giant dump on everything.

  • Duckstyle | April 9, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”249947″][quote comment=”249895″][quote comment=”249892″]
    I’m not picking on you Tony but we can’t have it both ways. We rail on the NFL for being the “No Fun League” due their massive restrictions and then we turn around and rail on MLB for not having enough restrictions. Which one is better? I don’t really know, but I do know that if nothing else we should be consistent.[/quote]

    Speak for yourself – I am very consistent. I think the NFL is absolutely correct, and MLB should take a page from their book when it comes to uniform standards.[/quote]

    i TOTALLY agree chance…uniforms should be just that…i’ve said it before, so i won’t go on ad infinitum, and as much as it pains me to say, i’d rather have 25 guys dressed exactly the same (even if they all wear long and baggy pants, flat brims, and softball alts-all of which i detest) than 25 stylin’ individualists in a rag-tag hodge-podge manner

    of course, im anal retentive (think melvin udall)…

    /good times, noodle salad[/quote]

    I dunno, for whatever strange reason, I think sock/stirrups is the one place where creativity is allowed, and should be IMO, and no, I don’t any good reason to back up that statement. As much as I hate the pajamas or, for that matter, any long baseball pants, I know if a vote was held, and only one way OK’d by the league rules, the long pants would win hands down. And that might make me a sad boy. Maybe it’s just in my area, but even the schools that require uniforms let the girls wear pretty much any socks they want. Hell, even at work there’s women that wear crazy colored socks that totally clash with their outfit, but it’s still cool and I get a kick out of it. But, I understand where you guys are coming from, a uniform is a uniform, and lets say two guy wore different stirrups, that might irritate me.

  • MikeR | April 9, 2008 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”249935″][quote comment=”249877″]Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero.

    Don’t forget Anthony Reyes…….

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.minorleag...

    His hat is awful but check out the [quote comment=”249912″]Is anyone else going through college football withdrawl?

    Here’s to hoping that these never happen again…

    …and that this would just go away.

    Can you say glory days? (I’m going to miss seeing Favre on Sunday’s…)

    Can you say national champion?[/quote]
    !

    I was until I started trolling the schools’ websites to check on Spring Practice news.

    As for the Ducks, I love their unis, but prefer those of the Akili Smith era.[/quote]

    Those Akili-era unis are definitely better than what they have now, but the best look was the Danny O’Neil/Alex Molden era, before they arbitrarily added black to their color scheme.

    This was a great look — green, yellow and white, and nothing else.

  • lwiedy | April 9, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”250066″]Regarding the women’s Final last night: Stanford’s school color IS their nickname, so you’d think they would maybe have uniforms in that color, but instead their black road uniforms take a giant dump on everything.[/quote]

    You’d think they would, too.

  • PBJ | April 9, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    Anyone else notice in the picture of the Patriots at Fenway, Tedy Bruschi is wearing a replica jersey while the others are all wearing authentic? The main differences you can see are the sleeves and the way the shirts fit. Since football jerseys are so tight I don’t blame him, but it was odd that it was just him.

  • Sports Tsar | April 9, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    hey you freeze that water that the swimmers are in and they’ll be glad they have those hockey jerseys!

  • Don | April 9, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    Tony my wife actually had a uni related question and had me write an email to Paul to check on it! Also she’s well aware that I am always on the internet searching “geek sites” as she calls them!!!

  • K-Walk | April 9, 2008 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”250072″][quote comment=”249935″][quote comment=”249877″]Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero.

    Don’t forget Anthony Reyes…….

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.minorleag...

    His hat is awful but check out the [quote comment=”249912″]Is anyone else going through college football withdrawl?

    Here’s to hoping that these never happen again…

    …and that this would just go away.

    Can you say glory days? (I’m going to miss seeing Favre on Sunday’s…)

    Can you say national champion?[/quote]
    !

    I was until I started trolling the schools’ websites to check on Spring Practice news.

    As for the Ducks, I love their unis, but prefer those of the Akili Smith era.[/quote]

    Those Akili-era unis are definitely better than what they have now, but the best look was the Danny O’Neil/Alex Molden era, before they arbitrarily added black to their color scheme.

    This was a great look — green, yellow and white, and nothing else.[/quote]

    I agree – a slightly re-vamped version of this would be great.

  • Duckstyle | April 9, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”249930″][quote comment=”249914″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I agree. Well, I could understand having Jackie Robinson Day every year – but having the players wear #42 every year is a little much.[/quote]

    This is what I’m saying. I would never want to stop honoring Jackie (speeches, TV specials, etc.) but everyone wearing #42 every year is a bit much. I’m afraid, however, that no matter how much you promote Jackie’s strength and integrity, his legacy will fade with the youth. How many people under the age of 25 really understand what Martin Luther King Jr. did? How many kids under 25 can really truly comprehend what life was like in the Jim Crow era? How many kids under 25 have any idea about the Negro Leagues? I think that no matter how we honor the past, the youth will be farther and farther away from it and eventually it will be gone. By wearing #42 every five years it becomes an event, something special, something to make a kid ask “Dad, who’s Jackie Robinson?” By wearing #42 every year it will eventually lose its impact.

    Case in point, Sean Taylor’s #21. When the ‘Skins wore their stickers and honored him it was a very nice and fitting honor for a murdered teammate. When the NFL got invovled and everyone started wearing #21, it lost its impact and became widely denegrated, even here on Uni-Watch.[/quote]

    Well being right at your cutoff age of 25, I can definitly say that I think I’ve got a good understanding of what Jackie meant to the game, and the entire country for that matter. But, a lot definitly don’t, and that applys to MLK, and the entire civil rights movement. But, I don’t think it’s a lack of education, more a lack of paying attention. Sometimes when cirtain topics are jammed down our throats too many times it loses it cache, and people just block it out. that’s sad but true.

    I think the fact that his number is retired league wide is strange tribute though, why not retire his in the NL, Larry Doby’s in the AL. I dunno, that’s a tough argument. But I really think bringing back any number, even for one day, just kind of shits on everything retiring it was in the first place. This goes right there with the 21 stuff last year. I don’t care where your heart is, I know these players have the knoblest of intentions, but damnit, they retired it for a reason, because they don;t want anyone else besmirching it. Add a patch for the day, paint his number behind home plate, have the Dodgers and their opponent wear 1947 throwbacks. Having some teams wear it, others with just some players, that’s just weird and dumb. Then you’ve got some guys saying, “Why aren’t you wearing 42? Don’t you care?” Just one ridiculous situation after another. I know there’s no good answer that will satisfy everyone, but this is my answer.

  • scott | April 9, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    I see the A’s and Jays both wore their dark alts last night, with the dark green for the A’s being almost indistinguishable from the black tops worn by the Blue Jays. Why baseball allows this sort of nonsense is beyond me. And will the Jays ever wear their home white tops?

  • lwiedy | April 9, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    Last week it was mentioned the Royals changing the sleeve patch on the road uni to a version cut to the shape of the logo. They are still using the old style at home. No big deal because it is white-on-white, but just a little odd.

    Also, many changes at “The K”. Before and after show new left field bullpen, centerfield scoreboard and the removal of the board in LC. Maybe there were technical issues that necessitated the change but I really don’t think any of the new things enhance the look, IMO.

  • Hank | April 9, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”249949″]I was at the Mets game yesterday and when they came out and I saw the black caps and accessories I said to my wife Paul from the uniwatchblog is not going to be happy. I hate the black accessories and wish they would just wear the blue ones instead. Especially on the last home opener at Shea.[/quote]

    Black as an alternate jersey and as an accessory item is so overdone. Unless black is the primary or historic uniform color (e.g. Raiders, Bruins), then don’t go there. Sure it looked really cool when the LA Kings introduced their all black as an alternate, but then all the copycats came along (e.g. Flyers (and I am a Flyers fan), Blackhawks) trot out the black unis, and for the most part they do not work. Or teams try to blend black with their primary color and you get Midnight Green which the Eagles’ morphed into.

    Stop it. Go back to your traditional colors.

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”249947″][quote comment=”249895″][quote comment=”249892″]
    I’m not picking on you Tony but we can’t have it both ways. We rail on the NFL for being the “No Fun League” due their massive restrictions and then we turn around and rail on MLB for not having enough restrictions. Which one is better? I don’t really know, but I do know that if nothing else we should be consistent.[/quote]

    Speak for yourself – I am very consistent. I think the NFL is absolutely correct, and MLB should take a page from their book when it comes to uniform standards.[/quote]

    i TOTALLY agree chance…uniforms should be just that…i’ve said it before, so i won’t go on ad infinitum, and as much as it pains me to say, i’d rather have 25 guys dressed exactly the same (even if they all wear long and baggy pants, flat brims, and softball alts-all of which i detest) than 25 stylin’ individualists in a rag-tag hodge-podge manner

    of course, im anal retentive (think melvin udall)…

    /good times, noodle salad[/quote]

    To my friend Phil,

    I stand with you on this topic. Michigam football used to be notorious for looking like a rag tag buch, (just look at Charles Woodson, still guilty). They would often wear undershirt of all hues of blue, tape the wastes of their pants, etc.

    When I played football in college, remember that game-worn Matt Powers jersey?, the NCAA was very strict with uniform regulations:

    1. Everyone had to wear the same socks, usually the NFL half and half socks. We could have also worn nike quarter socks, but the EM supplied us with the socks so that we’d be safe from penalty.

    2. Jersey length had to be the same. No more Turner Gill halfshirts. There are 350 pound lineman lumbering around. Those guys had my back but their exposed midriffs were a bit disturbing!

    3. The grey-glove rule came into being right after my senior year. No more team-colored gloves so that the referees would notice holding.

    These tendencies continued while I coached modified football at my alma mater. I would have 80 7th and 8th graders wearing every color of the rainbow under their gear. Talk about heinous.
    We put and end to that quickly instituting the rule of black, white, grey, or PURPLE! Our colors were the same as K-State.

    It wasn’t a financial issue for the kids either, because very inexpensive short and long sleeved T-shirts were available in the school store as well as having Walmart and various discount chains within the community!

    Instaed of looking like a group of vagabonds, we would look sharp while we beat up on our opponents. You can’t argue with theh fact that a well-outfitted group of 80 kids won’t strike a pang of fear and doubt into an opponent!

  • ryan c #40 | April 9, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    Oh, and NFL used to have baggy sleeves, didn’t they? Now they have that Saran Wrap look.
    Sort of the same vein as the pants debate I’m cooking today.
    Don, I’m curious — what did your wife say about “paul from the uniwatchblog” ? My girlfriend always gives me that ’stinky fart smell’ face. HAHA
    I have to disagree with you, Tony. The tight football jerseys serve a purpose (so the other team can’t grab you) … baseball pajama pants are for no reason but *fashion*.

    Remember we read here the interview from the equipment manager of the bengals… he said ocho-cinco tried to make a fashion statement by switching back to the baggy sleeves… after the first series he came running over to the equip. mrg. begging for a jersey with tight sleeves. The defense was grabbing him like crazy!

  • Kek | April 9, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”249972″][quote comment=”249917″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I think you’re right on both counts.[/quote]

    I agree as well, except that I think once a decade would suffice. The man has been sufficiently honored. Enough already.[/quote]
    I’m glad to see this opinion on here. I thought of Sean Taylor as soon as I read the blog comments today. Before I get another eloquent “Jackie effing Robinson” post, let me explain.

    I don’t think ANYONE is comparing Jackie Robinson’s impact on not only the sports world, but the overall social landscape of our country to Sean Taylor.

    HOWEVA, this is honoring a deceased player. The guys that chose to wear #21 in the Pro Bowl got clowned on here for a “look at me” thing. Well, that was a meaningless, exhibition all-star game.

    But, it’s OK for everyone to wear #42 in a regular season game? How is every player wearing #42 in a regular season game going to REALLY bring awareness to those in the current generation that don’t know who Jackie is? Honor the date, but I’d rather see MLB put out films, books, pamphlets, webpages on MLB.com, etc, educating young fans not only about Jackie, but the color barriers and days of the Negro Leagues in general.

    When Taylor was killed, the thought brought up was “what makes this tragedy any more tragic than another?” And I agree, and this could be applied here. Sure, Jackie was the first, but what about Larry Doby (although Cleveland honored him)? What about trailblazers in sports like football, basketball, hockey, golf and tennis?

    I don’t know, just my thoughts.

  • Carl G | April 9, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”249908″][quote comment=”249877″]Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero.

    Don’t forget Anthony Reyes…….

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.minorleag...

    I don’t get the flat-brim look, either. And I’m not buying the ‘batter can’t see my eyes’ excuse either.
    At least the other guys don’t look as big a goofus as Cordero does. Maybe it’s the flat brim and the big round head?[/quote]

    There is no real reason, it is just a trend. If you recall, in the old days most brims were flat. Then it was decided that you had to bend the brim to be cool. This led to items like a hat bender

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Once everyone was bending the hats, the trend has gone back to flat brimmed hats, as this ad indicates, the rappers like

    http://www.puresilva...

    Flat rimemd hats will be around for a while and will become the norm, and once that occurs the trend will shift back

  • MikeR | April 9, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”250085″]Last week it was mentioned the Royals changing the sleeve patch on the road uni to a version cut to the shape of the logo. They are still using the old style at home. No big deal because it is white-on-white, but just a little odd.

    Also, many changes at “The K”. Before and after show new left field bullpen, centerfield scoreboard and the removal of the board in LC. Maybe there were technical issues that necessitated the change but I really don’t think any of the new things enhance the look, IMO.[/quote]

    No more crown in center? Bummer!

  • Anthony Verna | April 9, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”250085″]Last week it was mentioned the Royals changing the sleeve patch on the road uni to a version cut to the shape of the logo. They are still using the old style at home. No big deal because it is white-on-white, but just a little odd.

    Also, many changes at “The K”. Before and after show new left field bullpen, centerfield scoreboard and the removal of the board in LC. Maybe there were technical issues that necessitated the change but I really don’t think any of the new things enhance the look, IMO.[/quote]

    It looks like construction is going on outside left field.

  • Russ | April 9, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    What kind of grip does Jose Calderon have?? I’m guessing he never played ball as a kid??

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”250081″][quote comment=”250072″][quote comment=”249935″][quote comment=”249877″]Several readers (and one of my ESPN editors) have complained about Orioles reliever George Sherill and his flat-brim cap. I don’t like the look either, but it’s hardly unique — just ask Chad Cordero.

    Don’t forget Anthony Reyes…….

    http://assets.espn.g...

    http://www.minorleag...

    His hat is awful but check out the [quote comment=”249912″]Is anyone else going through college football withdrawl?

    Here’s to hoping that these never happen again…

    …and that this would just go away.

    Can you say glory days? (I’m going to miss seeing Favre on Sunday’s…)

    Can you say national champion?[/quote]
    !

    I was until I started trolling the schools’ websites to check on Spring Practice news.

    As for the Ducks, I love their unis, but prefer those of the Akili Smith era.[/quote]

    Those Akili-era unis are definitely better than what they have now, but the best look was the Danny O’Neil/Alex Molden era, before they arbitrarily added black to their color scheme.

    This was a great look — green, yellow and white, and nothing else.[/quote]

    I agree – a slightly re-vamped version of this would be great.[/quote]

    1. Those cleats, Nike Air Mission D., were great. I wore them my freshman year in college(95). Most of my team wore them as well as schools like Penn State. What was interesting about PSU wearing them was that they would black out most of the white areas on them. We would do the same using acrylic Krylon paint, every Friday night before our games. Because of the moisture on the grass, by the end of the games, the paint would have been beaten up, this necessitating a new job the next week!

    2. I didn’t like the shade of yellow that they used, Dino Philyaw, nor the yellow facemasks. I much more preferred these!

  • Adam | April 9, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”250092″]
    No more crown in center? Bummer![/quote]

    According to their page, there will be a new crown. The renovations won’t all be complete until next year.

  • K-Walk | April 9, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    Can you say un-original?

  • David | April 9, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I absolutely, totally agree.I don’t want this to turn into a racial thing, because it really is amazing what Jackie Robinson did … but must we celebrate it every year? It’s almost like the Sean Taylor “21” thing all over again.

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”250095″][quote comment=”250085″]Last week it was mentioned the Royals changing the sleeve patch on the road uni to a version cut to the shape of the logo. They are still using the old style at home. No big deal because it is white-on-white, but just a little odd.

    Also, many changes at “The K”. Before and after show new left field bullpen, centerfield scoreboard and the removal of the board in LC. Maybe there were technical issues that necessitated the change but I really don’t think any of the new things enhance the look, IMO.[/quote]

    It looks like construction is going on outside left field.[/quote]

    Kauffmann? Stadium is beautiful in those shots. I have only been to Shea once, 25 years ago with my little league team in first grade and Yankee Stadium a mess of times. Not until I drove a family member to LaGuardia did I realize how close I am to both stadiums.

    Someday I would love to see more of the ML ballbarks.

  • lwiedy | April 9, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”250092″][quote comment=”250085″]Last week it was mentioned the Royals changing the sleeve patch on the road uni to a version cut to the shape of the logo. They are still using the old style at home. No big deal because it is white-on-white, but just a little odd.

    Also, many changes at “The K”. Before and after show new left field bullpen, centerfield scoreboard and the removal of the board in LC. Maybe there were technical issues that necessitated the change but I really don’t think any of the new things enhance the look, IMO.[/quote]

    No more crown in center? Bummer![/quote]

    The renderings had a crown on it, so maybe it’s to come, as mentioned work still going on.

  • K-Walk | April 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”250098″]Try this for the Oregon page of the Helmet Project.[/quote]

    Wow, good site!

  • RC | April 9, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    Notice that Joe Girardi is choosing not to wear the Joe Torre style satin Yankee jacket while in the dugout. Instead, opting for the standard-issue Majestic style used by all teams this year.

  • DenverGregg | April 9, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”250092″][quote comment=”250085″]Last week it was mentioned the Royals changing the sleeve patch on the road uni to a version cut to the shape of the logo. They are still using the old style at home. No big deal because it is white-on-white, but just a little odd.

    Also, many changes at “The K”. Before and after show new left field bullpen, centerfield scoreboard and the removal of the board in LC. Maybe there were technical issues that necessitated the change but I really don’t think any of the new things enhance the look, IMO.[/quote]

    No more crown in center? Bummer![/quote]
    Did Dennis Green come through town recently?

  • Mark in Shiga | April 9, 2008 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”250101″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I absolutely, totally agree.I don’t want this to turn into a racial thing, because it really is amazing what Jackie Robinson did … but must we celebrate it every year? It’s almost like the Sean Taylor “21” thing all over again.[/quote]

    Yeah, but as things stand now, Jackie Robinson Day is the only chance for players to wear, or fans to see, #42, because Selig banned it. Football players are free to wear #21 on their backs even if it isn’t on everyone’s helmet.

    Unless they’re going to reinstate #42 for regular players in regular games, I like this annual celebration.

  • Walaitis | April 9, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”250092″][quote comment=”250085″]Last week it was mentioned the Royals changing the sleeve patch on the road uni to a version cut to the shape of the logo. They are still using the old style at home. No big deal because it is white-on-white, but just a little odd.

    Also, many changes at “The K”. Before and after show new left field bullpen, centerfield scoreboard and the removal of the board in LC. Maybe there were technical issues that necessitated the change but I really don’t think any of the new things enhance the look, IMO.[/quote]

    No more crown in center? Bummer![/quote]

    I’m more disappointed to see the removal of “We Stand United”.

  • lwiedy | April 9, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”250102″][quote comment=”250095″][quote comment=”250085″]Last week it was mentioned the Royals changing the sleeve patch on the road uni to a version cut to the shape of the logo. They are still using the old style at home. No big deal because it is white-on-white, but just a little odd.

    Also, many changes at “The K”. Before and after show new left field bullpen, centerfield scoreboard and the removal of the board in LC. Maybe there were technical issues that necessitated the change but I really don’t think any of the new things enhance the look, IMO.[/quote]

    It looks like construction is going on outside left field.[/quote]

    Kauffmann? Stadium is beautiful in those shots. I have only been to Shea once, 25 years ago with my little league team in first grade and Yankee Stadium a mess of times. Not until I drove a family member to LaGuardia did I realize how close I am to both stadiums.

    Someday I would love to see more of the ML ballbarks.[/quote]

    Everybody who goes there says the same thing “It looks brand new”. They say the same about Dodger Stadium.

    I do prefer this look without the shit all over the place. Even Astroturf looks right here.

  • Kek | April 9, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”250109″][quote comment=”250101″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I absolutely, totally agree.I don’t want this to turn into a racial thing, because it really is amazing what Jackie Robinson did … but must we celebrate it every year? It’s almost like the Sean Taylor “21” thing all over again.[/quote]

    Yeah, but as things stand now, Jackie Robinson Day is the only chance for players to wear, or fans to see, #42, because Selig banned it. Football players are free to wear #21 on their backs even if it isn’t on everyone’s helmet.

    Unless they’re going to reinstate #42 for regular players in regular games, I like this annual celebration.[/quote]
    Banned? I wouldn’t call league-wide retirement of a number a “ban”. There’s a big difference between that and making a piece of equipment or style of uniform (too baggy, long, etc) a rule.

    In most parks you can see 42 along with the home team’s retired numbers.

    Again, to my previous post and the point: the nubmer 42 in and of itself isn’t going to educate people about Robinson.

    Honor the date, have a commemorative patch or ball made and end it there.

    It’s amazing to me that this blog’s author and many of those that post, thought the breast cancer thing with pink bats was gimmicky yet feel that every player wearing the same number is OK!?!?

    Plus it’s very impractical, especially for umps keeping track of substitions and when no NOB applies. Maybe the fans and broadcaster’s know what players look like but what about those keeping stats, etc.

    If it has to be 42, just put a patch on the sleeve like when the Pirates honored Clemente after his death.

  • James | April 9, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”250105″]Notice that Joe Girardi is choosing not to wear the Joe Torre style satin Yankee jacket while in the dugout. Instead, opting for the standard-issue Majestic style used by all teams this year.[/quote]

    Did the Yankees have an exception from MLB to wear those? Because I recall not only Torre but his staff (some of them anyway) wearing the satin jackets as well. If I recall correctly, during the Torre era I think that satin jacket was the only one offered on MLB’s website, unlike the other teams that had the standard-issue Majestic jackets.

    Not that I’m complaining; I may be a Mets fan, but that was such a classy look and made it so that, no matter what era, be it 70’s, 80’s or 90’s, the Yankees had a uniform look to them.

  • Art | April 9, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    As far the Mets and their use of black in their uniforms, it was OK at first when used as an alternate but now, I think the Mets have put overused it at the expense of their tradition (“Blue and Orange”)

  • lwiedy | April 9, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”250113″][quote comment=”250109″][quote comment=”250101″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I absolutely, totally agree.I don’t want this to turn into a racial thing, because it really is amazing what Jackie Robinson did … but must we celebrate it every year? It’s almost like the Sean Taylor “21” thing all over again.[/quote]

    Yeah, but as things stand now, Jackie Robinson Day is the only chance for players to wear, or fans to see, #42, because Selig banned it. Football players are free to wear #21 on their backs even if it isn’t on everyone’s helmet.

    Unless they’re going to reinstate #42 for regular players in regular games, I like this annual celebration.[/quote]
    Banned? I wouldn’t call league-wide retirement of a number a “ban”. There’s a big difference between that and making a piece of equipment or style of uniform (too baggy, long, etc) a rule.

    In most parks you can see 42 along with the home team’s retired numbers.

    Again, to my previous post and the point: the nubmer 42 in and of itself isn’t going to educate people about Robinson.

    Honor the date, have a commemorative patch or ball made and end it there.

    It’s amazing to me that this blog’s author and many of those that post, thought the breast cancer thing with pink bats was gimmicky yet feel that every player wearing the same number is OK!?!?

    Plus it’s very impractical, especially for umps keeping track of substitions and when no NOB applies. Maybe the fans and broadcaster’s know what players look like but what about those keeping stats, etc.

    If it has to be 42, just put a patch on the sleeve like when the Pirates honored Clemente after his death.[/quote]

    I really wouldn’t worry about that. This is not the Gulf Coast League and nobody’s about to slip in a player under the guise of “who’s he”. Umpires are informed of substitutions by the bench and ML PR staffs have the situation pretty well in hand as how to inform everyone else.

  • Bryan | April 9, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    Did anyone even know that there was a woman’s basketball league still around?
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    Apart from the kid Betancourt wearing silver spikes last night, did anybody notice what Gilbert Arenas has worn the last few nights.

    1. Ruby Red Adidas Gil Zeros
    2. Silver Gil Zeros

    This guy is beggig to get fined.

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    I’m begging for a spell-check or an edit button!

  • Nicole | April 9, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”250113″][quote comment=”250109″][quote comment=”250101″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I absolutely, totally agree.I don’t want this to turn into a racial thing, because it really is amazing what Jackie Robinson did … but must we celebrate it every year? It’s almost like the Sean Taylor “21” thing all over again.[/quote]

    Yeah, but as things stand now, Jackie Robinson Day is the only chance for players to wear, or fans to see, #42, because Selig banned it. Football players are free to wear #21 on their backs even if it isn’t on everyone’s helmet.

    Unless they’re going to reinstate #42 for regular players in regular games, I like this annual celebration.[/quote]
    Banned? I wouldn’t call league-wide retirement of a number a “ban”. There’s a big difference between that and making a piece of equipment or style of uniform (too baggy, long, etc) a rule.

    In most parks you can see 42 along with the home team’s retired numbers.

    Again, to my previous post and the point: the nubmer 42 in and of itself isn’t going to educate people about Robinson.

    Honor the date, have a commemorative patch or ball made and end it there.

    It’s amazing to me that this blog’s author and many of those that post, thought the breast cancer thing with pink bats was gimmicky yet feel that every player wearing the same number is OK!?!?

    Plus it’s very impractical, especially for umps keeping track of substitions and when no NOB applies. Maybe the fans and broadcaster’s know what players look like but what about those keeping stats, etc.

    If it has to be 42, just put a patch on the sleeve like when the Pirates honored Clemente after his death.[/quote]

    The official scorer and MLB employed stats people are city specific – they don’t move – so they know the team probably better than the fans do.

  • lwiedy | April 9, 2008 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”250127″][quote comment=”250113″][quote comment=”250109″][quote comment=”250101″][quote comment=”249910″]I’m all for honoring Jackie Robinson and the wearing of #42 throughout the MLB but by doing this on a regular basis, won’t it diminish his legacy? Eventually it will become “oh, it’s Jackie Robinson Day again.” I’d suggest that MLB do it just every five years, i.e. 60th, 65th, 70th anniversaries of breaking the color line. What does everyone else think?[/quote]

    I absolutely, totally agree.I don’t want this to turn into a racial thing, because it really is amazing what Jackie Robinson did … but must we celebrate it every year? It’s almost like the Sean Taylor “21” thing all over again.[/quote]

    Yeah, but as things stand now, Jackie Robinson Day is the only chance for players to wear, or fans to see, #42, because Selig banned it. Football players are free to wear #21 on their backs even if it isn’t on everyone’s helmet.

    Unless they’re going to reinstate #42 for regular players in regular games, I like this annual celebration.[/quote]
    Banned? I wouldn’t call league-wide retirement of a number a “ban”. There’s a big difference between that and making a piece of equipment or style of uniform (too baggy, long, etc) a rule.

    In most parks you can see 42 along with the home team’s retired numbers.

    Again, to my previous post and the point: the nubmer 42 in and of itself isn’t going to educate people about Robinson.

    Honor the date, have a commemorative patch or ball made and end it there.

    It’s amazing to me that this blog’s author and many of those that post, thought the breast cancer thing with pink bats was gimmicky yet feel that every player wearing the same number is OK!?!?

    Plus it’s very impractical, especially for umps keeping track of substitions and when no NOB applies. Maybe the fans and broadcaster’s know what players look like but what about those keeping stats, etc.

    If it has to be 42, just put a patch on the sleeve like when the Pirates honored Clemente after his death.[/quote]

    The official scorer and MLB employed stats people are city specific – they don’t move – so they know the team probably better than the fans do.[/quote]

    Well, I can tell you with ABSOLUTE certainty that that is not always the case (like tomorrow afternoon in at least one ballpark) ;-) Luckily, they don’t have to be.

    But the PR staff is in direct contact with the dugouts, they feed the official scorer and the OS relays over the press box p.a.

  • Tony in Erie | April 9, 2008 at 2:06 pm |

    Jackie effin Robinson. I know its not “eloquent” but I thought it served the purpose.

    And plus if you read the original posted article they’d tell you that its completely optional. I would hope that its a personal thing that you could wear the number not as a social “look at me” thing, but I suppose weirder things have happened on the diamond.

    What I want to know, however, what are the Yankees going to do about retiring Mo’s #42?

  • Kek | April 9, 2008 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”250130″]Jackie effin Robinson. I know its not “eloquent” but I thought it served the purpose.

    And plus if you read the original posted article they’d tell you that its completely optional. I would hope that its a personal thing that you could wear the number not as a social “look at me” thing, but I suppose weirder things have happened on the diamond.

    What I want to know, however, what are the Yankees going to do about retiring Mo’s #42?[/quote]
    Retire it twice… don’t they already have numbers that are done that way anyway?

    One in Yanks’ colors and one in Dodger blue.

  • lwiedy | April 9, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”250130″]Jackie effin Robinson. I know its not “eloquent” but I thought it served the purpose.

    And plus if you read the original posted article they’d tell you that its completely optional. I would hope that its a personal thing that you could wear the number not as a social “look at me” thing, but I suppose weirder things have happened on the diamond.

    What I want to know, however, what are the Yankees going to do about retiring Mo’s #42?[/quote]

    No problem, #8 is retired twice (Dickey & Berra).

  • Maks | April 9, 2008 at 2:15 pm |

    Looks like Mike Imrem didn’t get the memo of the name change: here he wrote “The crowd at Comiskey Park for the home opener gave Crede a huge ovation during pregame introductions. He thanked them with the eventual game-winner in the seventh inning and received an even bigger ovation.”

    How i wish it was Comiskey.

    Article here

  • KJ | April 9, 2008 at 2:19 pm |

    I love the flat brim look! Guess, it’s an age thing! Here is a link to ALL of the shoes Nike made for the Olypmics…they made footwear for every single event!

    http://www.sneakerfr...

  • Joey Guns | April 9, 2008 at 2:22 pm |

    Darren Rovell interviewed the head of New Era:

    http://www.portfolio...

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote]I love the flat brim look! Guess, it’s an age thing![/quote]

    damn right it is…it is HEINOUS

    /now GTFO my lawn

  • KJ | April 9, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”250124″]Apart from the kid Betancourt wearing silver spikes last night, did anybody notice what Gilbert Arenas has worn the last few nights.

    1. Ruby Red Adidas Gil Zeros
    2. Silver Gil Zeros

    This guy is beggig to get fined.[/quote]

    Gil, Adidas, and UndrCrwn teamed up to provide him a new sneaker for every game after the All-Star break but that was deemed impossible, then they wiggled down to 30 but ended up settling on 20. Since he’s been hurt he is now way behind schedule and won’t get to rock every pair during a game! Oh well!

    He might get fined but I doubt it, especially at this junction of the season.

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”250134″]I love the flat brim look! Guess, it’s an age thing! Here is a link to ALL of the shoes Nike made for the Olypmics…they made footwear for every single event!

    http://www.sneakerfr...

    I just turned 31 and grew up 20 minutes North of Manhattan, which would make me “down”. JK

    The flat brim is and has been associated with the Hip-Hop movement which, gauging UW, many are not totally in tune with. Whether by age, or personal choice, it doesn’t matter.

    As far as I’m concerned, unless you’ve got a do-rag under your fitted, the cap should:

    A. Actually Fit, not two sizes too large
    B. Have even the slightest of arc in the brim

    This is by no means, an issue of race but of style. Jay-Z, a very well dressed celebrity and HH icon would be a great example of mixing the street and high end casual wear into a hybrid.

    When I see an overly curved brim on a faded cap, I automatically think of the style that Abercrombie or Hollister has cultivated.
    It is an example of recognition.

    I don’t care for the extremes in any case, but the ballplayers shown with the flat brims look ridiculous.

  • Adrian | April 9, 2008 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”249863″]I swear the logo in the middle of the black ribbon is the new Jays logo. I’ll look to see why it’s up there.[/quote]

    According to the Blue Jays website, Sunday April 6 was Green Ribbon of Hope Day as part of their Awareness Series. Hence, the green ribbon on Calderon’s jersey. The GRoH is part of Child Find Ontario.

  • Adam | April 9, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”250133″]Looks like Mike Imrem didn’t get the memo of the name change: here he wrote “The crowd at Comiskey Park for the home opener gave Crede a huge ovation during pregame introductions. He thanked them with the eventual game-winner in the seventh inning and received an even bigger ovation.”

    How i wish it was Comiskey.
    [/quote]

    Lots of people still call it Comiskey, not really a big deal. Anyway, the park is far better post-renovations (not that it was bad before), and that wouldn’t have happened without U.S. Cellular, so I’m glad it’s been renamed.

  • chance | April 9, 2008 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”250131″][quote comment=”250130″]Jackie effin Robinson. I know its not “eloquent” but I thought it served the purpose.

    And plus if you read the original posted article they’d tell you that its completely optional. I would hope that its a personal thing that you could wear the number not as a social “look at me” thing, but I suppose weirder things have happened on the diamond.

    What I want to know, however, what are the Yankees going to do about retiring Mo’s #42?[/quote]
    Retire it twice… don’t they already have numbers that are done that way anyway?

    One in Yanks’ colors and one in Dodger blue.[/quote]

    Exactly. One will be retired in the same style as all the others, one with the Jackie Robinson anniversary logo.

  • KJ | April 9, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”250139″][quote comment=”250134″]I love the flat brim look! Guess, it’s an age thing! Here is a link to ALL of the shoes Nike made for the Olypmics…they made footwear for every single event!

    http://www.sneakerfr...

    I just turned 31 and grew up 20 minutes North of Manhattan, which would make me “down”. JK

    The flat brim is and has been associated with the Hip-Hop movement which, gauging UW, many are not totally in tune with. Whether by age, or personal choice, it doesn’t matter.

    As far as I’m concerned, unless you’ve got a do-rag under your fitted, the cap should:

    A. Actually Fit, not two sizes too large
    B. Have even the slightest of arc in the brim

    This is by no means, an issue of race but of style. Jay-Z, a very well dressed celebrity and HH icon would be a great example of mixing the street and high end casual wear into a hybrid.

    When I see an overly curved brim on a faded cap, I automatically think of the style that Abercrombie or Hollister has cultivated.
    It is an example of recognition.

    I don’t care for the extremes in any case, but the ballplayers shown with the flat brims look ridiculous.[/quote]

    lol…ok, the each his own. I’ve never bent my brim, ever. Not in little league and not now that I no longer play and donated my body to College Football I still don’t. And the do-rag under the fitted look…SO NYC. Where I am from (in the big city of Charleston, SC) and down South in general, that’s a no-no!

    Here is the link to UndrCrwn’s founders blog as he briefly talks about the Gil sneaker biz…

    http://dustincanalin...

  • PatMcD | April 9, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    Hey guys, frequent lurker here. I’m going to an early screening of The Express tonight.(Its the Ernie Davis movie) I can’t take any pictures (there are some on imdb), but I’ll let you know about an uni inconsistencies tomorrow.

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”250147″][quote comment=”250139″][quote comment=”250134″]I love the flat brim look! Guess, it’s an age thing! Here is a link to ALL of the shoes Nike made for the Olypmics…they made footwear for every single event!

    http://www.sneakerfr...

    I just turned 31 and grew up 20 minutes North of Manhattan, which would make me “down”. JK

    The flat brim is and has been associated with the Hip-Hop movement which, gauging UW, many are not totally in tune with. Whether by age, or personal choice, it doesn’t matter.

    As far as I’m concerned, unless you’ve got a do-rag under your fitted, the cap should:

    A. Actually Fit, not two sizes too large
    B. Have even the slightest of arc in the brim

    This is by no means, an issue of race but of style. Jay-Z, a very well dressed celebrity and HH icon would be a great example of mixing the street and high end casual wear into a hybrid.

    When I see an overly curved brim on a faded cap, I automatically think of the style that Abercrombie or Hollister has cultivated.
    It is an example of recognition.

    I don’t care for the extremes in any case, but the ballplayers shown with the flat brims look ridiculous.[/quote]

    lol…ok, the each his own. I’ve never bent my brim, ever. Not in little league and not now that I no longer play and donated my body to College Football I still don’t. And the do-rag under the fitted look…SO NYC. Where I am from (in the big city of Charleston, SC) and down South in general, that’s a no-no!

    Here is the link to UndrCrwn’s founders blog as he briefly talks about the Gil sneaker biz…

    http://dustincanalin...

    Check out the unveiling of the Hyperdunk. Not only do they explain the Tech within them, as Nike lightest Hoops shoe ever, but those UWers who are less sneaker-inclined than most should find the International PE’s interesting!

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    As for the shoes, nothing really grabbed my attention. I am more looking forward to the Olympic PE’s that Nike will be providing the Basketball team.

    The Hyperdunks in TB,(Team Bank) colors, including purple, have potential as do the Huarache 08 that Andre Iguodala and many of the women in the NCAA tournament have been wearing.

    I love Sneaker Freaker but Sole Collector is much better. I’m sure that you’re already familiar with it, but when you have some spare time, check out the link in my screenname!

    Check out the unveiling of the Hyperdunk. Not only do they explain the Tech within them, as Nike lightest Hoops shoe ever, but those UWers who are less sneaker-inclined than most should find the International PE’s interesting!

  • Kris Fulton | April 9, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”250138″][quote comment=”250124″]Apart from the kid Betancourt wearing silver spikes last night, did anybody notice what Gilbert Arenas has worn the last few nights.

    1. Ruby Red Adidas Gil Zeros
    2. Silver Gil Zeros

    This guy is beggig to get fined.[/quote]

    Gil, Adidas, and UndrCrwn teamed up to provide him a new sneaker for every game after the All-Star break but that was deemed impossible, then they wiggled down to 30 but ended up settling on 20. Since he’s been hurt he is now way behind schedule and won’t get to rock every pair during a game! Oh well!

    He might get fined but I doubt it, especially at this junction of the season.[/quote]

    That’s not entirely correct – the shoes were scheduled to be released throughout the season, often with specific colorways coinciding with the game that evening. Check out the Gilwood release when the Wizards played the Lakers. Undrcrwn was just one of many groups/companies that were involved in the different colorways. There’s Scores For Schools, EA Sports, and Halo, to name a few. In the photos above, the silver shoe is the Undrcrwn “Ice Cold” model, and the red looks like the Benihana “Hibachi” model originally scheduled to be worn against the Pistons, but the red looks okay against the Bucks. The reason there’s twenty colorways? It’s his second signature shoe and he wears number zero. 2-0.

  • Robert | April 9, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”249912″]

    Can you say national champion?[/quote]

    Is it Georgia’s turn to beat Ohio State in the national game or Auburn’s? I thought it Georgia this year, Auburn the next. 2011 SEC winner and Ohio State thrasher has yet to be announced.

  • Duckstyle | April 9, 2008 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”250147″][quote comment=”250139″][quote comment=”250134″]I love the flat brim look! Guess, it’s an age thing! Here is a link to ALL of the shoes Nike made for the Olypmics…they made footwear for every single event!

    http://www.sneakerfr...

    I just turned 31 and grew up 20 minutes North of Manhattan, which would make me “down”. JK

    The flat brim is and has been associated with the Hip-Hop movement which, gauging UW, many are not totally in tune with. Whether by age, or personal choice, it doesn’t matter.

    As far as I’m concerned, unless you’ve got a do-rag under your fitted, the cap should:

    A. Actually Fit, not two sizes too large
    B. Have even the slightest of arc in the brim

    This is by no means, an issue of race but of style. Jay-Z, a very well dressed celebrity and HH icon would be a great example of mixing the street and high end casual wear into a hybrid.

    When I see an overly curved brim on a faded cap, I automatically think of the style that Abercrombie or Hollister has cultivated.
    It is an example of recognition.

    I don’t care for the extremes in any case, but the ballplayers shown with the flat brims look ridiculous.[/quote]

    lol…ok, the each his own. I’ve never bent my brim, ever. Not in little league and not now that I no longer play and donated my body to College Football I still don’t. And the do-rag under the fitted look…SO NYC. Where I am from (in the big city of Charleston, SC) and down South in general, that’s a no-no!

    Here is the link to UndrCrwn’s founders blog as he briefly talks about the Gil sneaker biz…

    http://dustincanalin...

    Well, I’m 25 and I hate the flat brims. And I for one am gald that they started rounding the brims by machine before purcahse. They seem to stay rounded longer then when doing it yourself. Plus I’ve got a rather large noggin(7 3/4), so my head tends to flatten the brims over time by stretching, annoying.

  • Robert | April 9, 2008 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”250088″]2. Jersey length had to be the same. No more Turner Gill halfshirts. There are 350 pound lineman lumbering around. Those guys had my back but their exposed midriffs were a bit disturbing![/quote]

    Turner Gill looked pretty freakin’ cool in those half-shirts.

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...

  • Bendert | April 9, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    It seems that a lot of lefties go with the flat-brimmed hats.

  • Ron Fez | April 9, 2008 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”250147″][quote comment=”250139″][quote comment=”250134″]I love the flat brim look! Guess, it’s an age thing! Here is a link to ALL of the shoes Nike made for the Olypmics…they made footwear for every single event!

    http://www.sneakerfr...

    I just turned 31 and grew up 20 minutes North of Manhattan, which would make me “down”. JK

    The flat brim is and has been associated with the Hip-Hop movement which, gauging UW, many are not totally in tune with. Whether by age, or personal choice, it doesn’t matter.

    As far as I’m concerned, unless you’ve got a do-rag under your fitted, the cap should:

    A. Actually Fit, not two sizes too large
    B. Have even the slightest of arc in the brim

    This is by no means, an issue of race but of style. Jay-Z, a very well dressed celebrity and HH icon would be a great example of mixing the street and high end casual wear into a hybrid.

    When I see an overly curved brim on a faded cap, I automatically think of the style that Abercrombie or Hollister has cultivated.
    It is an example of recognition.

    I don’t care for the extremes in any case, but the ballplayers shown with the flat brims look ridiculous.[/quote]

    lol…ok, the each his own. I’ve never bent my brim, ever. [/quote]

    Ever watch college baseball? Most kids sport the flat brim. (Plus many even wear high stirrups). I’d add too that it’s a SoCal look also with the uber flat hat.

    Also. have you tried wearing one of these new 59Fifty POS hats? The brim goes from ear to ear. How can you curve that?

    I’m not a flat brim dude myself – but the one 59Fifty I own is flat brimmed. I tried to curve it…

  • War Damn Eagle | April 9, 2008 at 4:16 pm |

    Indians are wearing their alternate cursive “I” hats on the road in Anaheim (er, Los Angeles). Paired up with the blue alt jersey, too. I thought those were only for the home vest jerseys, which they don’t wear anymore (replaced by the new retro alts).

  • Duckstyle | April 9, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”250169″][quote comment=”250147″][quote comment=”250139″][quote comment=”250134″]I love the flat brim look! Guess, it’s an age thing! Here is a link to ALL of the shoes Nike made for the Olypmics…they made footwear for every single event!

    http://www.sneakerfr...

    I just turned 31 and grew up 20 minutes North of Manhattan, which would make me “down”. JK

    The flat brim is and has been associated with the Hip-Hop movement which, gauging UW, many are not totally in tune with. Whether by age, or personal choice, it doesn’t matter.

    As far as I’m concerned, unless you’ve got a do-rag under your fitted, the cap should:

    A. Actually Fit, not two sizes too large
    B. Have even the slightest of arc in the brim

    This is by no means, an issue of race but of style. Jay-Z, a very well dressed celebrity and HH icon would be a great example of mixing the street and high end casual wear into a hybrid.

    When I see an overly curved brim on a faded cap, I automatically think of the style that Abercrombie or Hollister has cultivated.
    It is an example of recognition.

    I don’t care for the extremes in any case, but the ballplayers shown with the flat brims look ridiculous.[/quote]

    lol…ok, the each his own. I’ve never bent my brim, ever. [/quote]

    Ever watch college baseball? Most kids sport the flat brim. (Plus many even wear high stirrups). I’d add too that it’s a SoCal look also with the uber flat hat.

    Also. have you tried wearing one of these new 59Fifty POS hats? The brim goes from ear to ear. How can you curve that?

    I’m not a flat brim dude myself – but the one 59Fifty I own is flat brimmed. I tried to curve it…[/quote]

    A wiffleball/softball, rubberbands/shoelaces, a warm dashboard, and an afternoon. Always works for me.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    the formula seems pretty simple…

    if you wear a fifty-nine fifty cap…you have a curved brim

    a fitty-nine fitty hat…and it’s flat

  • Josh Petty | April 9, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    Those USA hockey jerseys (the ones worn at the Twins game) are quite significant. That’s the 1980 Lake Placid Olympics version and the ones beig worn by team USA at the time of the Miracle on Ice. Really cool if you ask me.

  • Slam | April 9, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    I’ve heard that some pitchers like the flat brimmed caps because the edge of the visor does not impede the side view to first base when they try to check a runner.

  • Randy Williams | April 9, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”250173″]the formula seems pretty simple…

    if you wear a fifty-nine fifty cap…you have a curved brim

    a fitty-nine fitty hat…and it’s flat[/quote]
    Didn’t Paul link an article a while back about how to “doctor up” your 5950 by pulling the “guts” out of the crown? The article also suggested soaking your hat or wearing it in the shower (who doesn’t?). The soaking tends to soften the bill up a bit allowing for the necessary bill curve.

  • chance | April 9, 2008 at 5:26 pm |

    I haven’t yet soaked any of my poly 59fifties, but I’ve had no problems curving the bill….

  • Adam | April 9, 2008 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”250171″]Indians are wearing their alternate cursive “I” hats on the road in Anaheim (er, Los Angeles). Paired up with the blue alt jersey, too. I thought those were only for the home vest jerseys, which they don’t wear anymore (replaced by the new retro alts).[/quote]

    There was some article posted the other day that basically said they were going to do that.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”250180″]I’ve heard that some pitchers like the flat brimmed caps because the edge of the visor does not impede the side view to first base when they try to check a runner.[/quote]

    that may be true (see: chamberlain, justin joba)…but what’s the excuse for the position players?

    it’s just stylin’…i hate the look, but it’s what all the kids are doing now…i don’t think theye’s any practical reason for it

  • Will Morris | April 9, 2008 at 5:40 pm |

    Just speaking for South Jersey, I’ve never known the odd-even numbering thing to be a rule. I do remember that the NFHS didn’t legalize numbers 1 and 2 until the late 90s, and I also remember that our coach would always order either all odd numbers or all even numbers when the new uniforms came in (for instance, the uniforms used my freshman and sophomore years were evens, the uniforms my junior and senior years were odds.)

    This was because the old varsity uniforms became the new JV uniforms, and the old JV uniforms became the new freshmen uniforms. Since we would regularly dress a couple of JV kids for the varsity game (and a couple freshmen for the JV games), switching between odds and evens with each uniform style ensured that we didn’t have to have extra varsity uniforms available for the JV kids; they would just use their JV uniforms.

  • Kris Fulton | April 9, 2008 at 5:49 pm |

    The green ribbon on Jose Calderon’s Blue Jays jersey was for Green Ribbon of Hope Day – a fundraiser for Child Find Ontario.

  • Randy Williams | April 9, 2008 at 5:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”250188″][quote comment=”250180″]I’ve heard that some pitchers like the flat brimmed caps because the edge of the visor does not impede the side view to first base when they try to check a runner.[/quote]

    that may be true (see: chamberlain, justin joba)…but what’s the excuse for the position players?

    it’s just stylin’…i hate the look, but it’s what all the kids are doing now…i don’t think theye’s any practical reason for it[/quote]
    Well tell those pitchers to quit putting men on b/c the flat bill looks lame. Just work with the bases empty and pitch from the wind-up.
    The flat bill is big with the skaters and desert rats here in San Diego. Looks equally bad on and off the field.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”250192″][quote comment=”250188″][quote comment=”250180″]I’ve heard that some pitchers like the flat brimmed caps because the edge of the visor does not impede the side view to first base when they try to check a runner.[/quote]

    that may be true (see: chamberlain, justin joba)…but what’s the excuse for the position players?

    it’s just stylin’…i hate the look, but it’s what all the kids are doing now…i don’t think theye’s any practical reason for it[/quote]
    Well tell those pitchers to quit putting men on b/c the flat bill looks lame. Just work with the bases empty and pitch from the wind-up.
    The flat bill is big with the skaters and desert rats here in San Diego. Looks equally bad on and off the field.[/quote]

    agreed…it just looks shitty

  • Josh Petty | April 9, 2008 at 6:07 pm |

    Paul, for you, here’s the picture of a fan today at the Par 3 competition before the Masters

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 6:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”250183″][quote comment=”250173″]the formula seems pretty simple…

    if you wear a fifty-nine fifty cap…you have a curved brim

    a fitty-nine fitty hat…and it’s flat[/quote]
    Didn’t Paul link an article a while back about how to “doctor up” your 5950 by pulling the “guts” out of the crown? The article also suggested soaking your hat or wearing it in the shower (who doesn’t?). The soaking tends to soften the bill up a bit allowing for the necessary bill curve.[/quote]

    The new black-brimmed caps are different. The wool, grey-billed you could wear in the shower and mold, these don’t. I have the Navy Yankees cap with the VaTech logo. It molded pretty well after one night of wearing it around!

  • MPowers1634 | April 9, 2008 at 6:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”250165″][quote comment=”250088″]2. Jersey length had to be the same. No more Turner Gill halfshirts. There are 350 pound lineman lumbering around. Those guys had my back but their exposed midriffs were a bit disturbing![/quote]

    Turner Gill looked pretty freakin’ cool in those half-shirts.

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...

    Yes, Turner did, but I bet his guards and tackles didn’t!

  • Josh Petty | April 9, 2008 at 6:29 pm |

    In the Par 3 competition today, Fred Couples got a hole in one. When he got to the green, he called a fan over to retrieve the ball from the cup. At that time, he was clearly smoking a cigarette. I’m trying to find a picture, but they aren’t easy to find. I’ll post it if I can find one.

  • Jordan Pope | April 9, 2008 at 7:32 pm |

    I was watching the west final from the CFL last year and noticed that the referees were wearing striped stirrups

  • Shep | April 9, 2008 at 7:48 pm |

    I like the idea of wearing 42 to recognize Jackie Robinson. My question is: will teams that normally have NOB’s, wear their real names, or Robinson, like the Nuxhall uni’s last week?
    Oh, and what are people using to make the logo mash-ups? I’d like to make one for Boston.

  • Skycat | April 9, 2008 at 7:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”250118″]As far the Mets and their use of black in their uniforms, it was OK at first when used as an alternate but now, I think the Mets have put overused it at the expense of their tradition (“Blue and Orange”)[/quote]
    I don’t know why the Mets don’t make more use of the orange. Also, shouldn’t there be a rule that T-shirts worn underneath jerseys be the same color? In today’s game against the Phillies, all the Mets are wearing black T-shirts except David Wright. Wright is following the example of John Franco by wearing an orange T-shirt (a bit faded, though).

  • Paul Lukas | April 9, 2008 at 8:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”250113″]It’s amazing to me that this blog’s author and many of those that post, thought the breast cancer thing with pink bats was gimmicky yet feel that every player wearing the same number is OK!?!?[/quote]

    Breast cancer, while a very worthy cause, has nothing to do with baseball — that’s why I think the pink bats (and ribbons, and wristbands…) are gimmicky. Jackie Robinson, meanwhile, has everything to do with baseball. It’s not a gimmick — it’s honoring your sport’s heritage.

  • Robert | April 9, 2008 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”250197″][quote comment=”250165″][quote comment=”250088″]2. Jersey length had to be the same. No more Turner Gill halfshirts. There are 350 pound lineman lumbering around. Those guys had my back but their exposed midriffs were a bit disturbing![/quote]

    Turner Gill looked pretty freakin’ cool in those half-shirts.

    http://i62.photobuck...

    http://i62.photobuck...

    Yes, Turner did, but I bet his guards and tackles didn’t![/quote]

    True. Fortunately, most of the linemen wore t-shirts under their jerseys in those days, which helped.

  • Ed R. | April 9, 2008 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”250212″][quote comment=”250118″]As far the Mets and their use of black in their uniforms, it was OK at first when used as an alternate but now, I think the Mets have put overused it at the expense of their tradition (“Blue and Orange”)[/quote]
    I don’t know why the Mets don’t make more use of the orange. Also, shouldn’t there be a rule that T-shirts worn underneath jerseys be the same color? In today’s game against the Phillies, all the Mets are wearing black T-shirts except David Wright. Wright is following the example of John Franco by wearing an orange T-shirt (a bit faded, though).[/quote]

    I think its ok because he’s just wearing a short sleeve shirt under his jersey. He couldn’t throw on a long sleeve orange undershirt or even blue while the rest of the team was wearing black.

  • Shep | April 9, 2008 at 8:23 pm |

    Jackie Robinson, meanwhile, has everything to do with baseball. It’s not a gimmick — it’s honoring your sport’s heritage.
    Exactly. Jackie Robinson one of the most important people to the sport of baseball. Wearing number 42 has a deep meaning, and shows respect for Jackie, and everything that he and other earlier African-American baseball players pionered.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 8:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”250212″][quote comment=”250118″]As far the Mets and their use of black in their uniforms, it was OK at first when used as an alternate but now, I think the Mets have put overused it at the expense of their tradition (“Blue and Orange”)[/quote]
    I don’t know why the Mets don’t make more use of the orange. Also, shouldn’t there be a rule that T-shirts worn underneath jerseys be the same color? In today’s game against the Phillies, all the Mets are wearing black T-shirts except David Wright. Wright is following the example of John Franco by wearing an orange T-shirt (a bit faded, though).[/quote]

    while i loathe alts and 3rd jerseys in general, i would give my RIGHT ARM if they’d DTB and add a orange jersey…if they HAVE to have an alt at all…which they dont…of course, their past history with a orange jersey doesn’t lead me to believe they’ll be able to pull it off…at all

    at least i think our horrid streak of losing to the phils will end tonight

  • Derek S | April 9, 2008 at 8:33 pm |

    The reason ball players are wearing flat brim hats are for two reasons:
    1) Without the bend in the brim it is easier to wear sunglasses
    2) If you brim the hat you lose peripheral vision

    I found out this from DII baseball coaches who require their player to not bend their brims. I know it seems like the “hip-hop” style but is had a functional use in today’s baseball game.

  • scott | April 9, 2008 at 8:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”250171″]Indians are wearing their alternate cursive “I” hats on the road in Anaheim (er, Los Angeles). Paired up with the blue alt jersey, too. I thought those were only for the home vest jerseys, which they don’t wear anymore (replaced by the new retro alts).[/quote]

    It did appear odd for the Indians to be wearing the “I” caps at the Angels. Is this the first time they’ve worn those caps on the road? Did the batting helmets match, or did they stick with Chief Wahoo on those?

  • John Z. | April 9, 2008 at 8:53 pm |

    I just noticed that Manny’s snood still has the World Series logo on it as he’s sitting on the bench. No pictures yet, but let’s see what we can find.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 8:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”250222″]The reason ball players are wearing flat brim hats are for two reasons:
    1) Without the bend in the brim it is easier to wear sunglasses
    2) If you brim the hat you lose peripheral vision

    I found out this from DII baseball coaches who require their player to not bend their brims. I know it seems like the “hip-hop” style but is had a functional use in today’s baseball game.[/quote]

    while i don’t dispute there may be some functionality to the straight brim…it took science (or d2 coaches with opthalmology minors) 100 years to discover this? i don’t buy the sunglasses argument (what are croakies for then?) and i only place a tiny bit of weight in the peripheral vision argument

    i just find it extremely coincidental that the flat brim is “in” now…and suddenly it’s also better for ballplayers too…

    lou brown: ‘seeing’s the most important thing’
    willie mays hayes: ‘aint that important’

  • John Z. | April 9, 2008 at 8:56 pm |

    I can’t believe I posted sox news…. I feel gross… now I need a shower.

    Go Yankees!

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 9:12 pm |

    oh…and just to add a codacil to my ‘brim’ arguments…

    why hasn’t science prevailed upon MLB to have all players wear the flat brim if it’s so much better…and why are helmets still curved? surely, a hitter would be assisted by better peripheral vision

  • Garfield | April 9, 2008 at 9:21 pm |

    Yuni is going with the silver cleats against the Devil Rays again today. I think he has worn them for away games with the gray uniform all of this season.

  • Robert | April 9, 2008 at 9:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”250222″]The reason ball players are wearing flat brim hats are for two reasons:
    1) Without the bend in the brim it is easier to wear sunglasses
    2) If you brim the hat you lose peripheral vision

    I found out this from DII baseball coaches who require their player to not bend their brims. I know it seems like the “hip-hop” style but is had a functional use in today’s baseball game.[/quote]

    DII may claim that this is the reason, and they might believe it, but I’m not buying it. Players wore sunglasses without flat brims for decades, and I do not think that those players suffered from poor peripheral vision because of their bent brims.

  • ChrismM70 | April 9, 2008 at 9:37 pm |

    I was watching the Royals game tonight, and they had a small scrolling ad behind home plate advertising their website, but something was different – it said:

    losRoyals.com

    That’s right – it’s the Royals SPANISH language website. After all the talk about the NBA (los Lakers?) I would have liked it if the Royals could have gotten the address “Royales.com”

    Oh well.

  • Dave A | April 9, 2008 at 9:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”250084″]I see the A’s and Jays both wore their dark alts last night, with the dark green for the A’s being almost indistinguishable from the black tops worn by the Blue Jays. Why baseball allows this sort of nonsense is beyond me. And will the Jays ever wear their home white tops?[/quote]

    Jays finally wearing the home whites tonight. A’s still in dark green. I loved the retro blues, but wearing the black alts for the next three and waiting till the 5th home game to wear the whites …gimme a break.

  • Shep | April 9, 2008 at 9:42 pm |

    I was watching the Royals game tonight, and they had a small scrolling ad behind home plate advertising their website, but something was different – it said:

    losRoyals.com

    That’s right – it’s the Royals SPANISH language website. After all the talk about the NBA (los Lakers?) I would have liked it if the Royals could have gotten the address “Royales.com”

    Oh well. I’ve seen that on the Yankees ads. (I am a sox fan- only during national telecasts) I think it s catching on. You’re right though- they could get the translation right!

  • Bryan Redemske | April 9, 2008 at 9:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”250230″]oh…and just to add a codacil to my ‘brim’ arguments…

    why hasn’t science prevailed upon MLB to have all players wear the flat brim if it’s so much better…and why are helmets still curved? surely, a hitter would be assisted by better peripheral vision[/quote]

    Because then every player in the league would look like a moron, instead of just a select few.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”250235″]Jays finally wearing the home whites tonight. A’s still in dark green. I loved the retro blues, but wearing the black alts for the next three and waiting till the 5th home game to wear the whites …gimme a break.[/quote]

    lets see if los mets wear the pinstripes and blue caps within 5 games

    im taking the over

  • Dave A | April 9, 2008 at 9:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”250136″]Darren Rovell interviewed the head of New Era:

    http://www.portfolio...

    In the New Era interview, “…New Era even raised prices on its 59Fifty hats by $4 last year because of a change in material from wool to polyester…”

    WTF??? Wool to polyester AND a price increase.

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 10:00 pm |

    yeah…but its really NICE polyester

  • Mike Engle | April 9, 2008 at 10:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”250240″]yeah…but its really NICE polyester[/quote]
    What would Mr. Lukas say?
    Probably something like, “No such thing as nice polyester. Besides, why do you need a darn cap to show allegiance? I root for them and I’ll see them in person on occasion. Isn’t that enough?”

  • LI Phil | April 9, 2008 at 10:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”250244″][quote comment=”250240″]yeah…but its really NICE polyester[/quote]
    What would Mr. Lukas say?
    Probably something like, “No such thing as nice polyester.”[/quote]

    jeebus mike…i gotta turn off those invisible sarcasm tags

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 9, 2008 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”250238″][quote comment=”250235″]Jays finally wearing the home whites tonight. A’s still in dark green. I loved the retro blues, but wearing the black alts for the next three and waiting till the 5th home game to wear the whites …gimme a break.[/quote]

    lets see if los mets wear the pinstripes and blue caps within 5 games

    im taking the over[/quote]

    Me too. I’d take the over if it was 10.

  • Mike Engle | April 9, 2008 at 10:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”250248″][quote comment=”250244″][quote comment=”250240″]yeah…but its really NICE polyester[/quote]
    What would Mr. Lukas say?
    Probably something like, “No such thing as nice polyester.”[/quote]

    jeebus mike…i gotta turn off those invisible sarcasm tags[/quote]
    Hey man, just trying to fill the void while Our Faithful Narrator is partying it up tonight. Happy birthday, Mrs. Lukas. Hope you get to celebrate your birthday a hundred more times.

  • Jason Gomez | April 9, 2008 at 10:51 pm |

    The crown at Kaufman Stadium will be put on after the season, the whole remodling thing is supposed to be done next year.

  • rybarto | April 9, 2008 at 11:27 pm |

    Hey if you take a look at that pic of Manny coming out of the dugout during the ceremony that Paul posted..it looks like theres some sort of small padding outline on his right wristband. Is it just me or does anyone else see it?

  • Jordan Pope | April 10, 2008 at 12:09 am |

    This isn’t exactly uni related, however my high school is getting our football field renovated.
    First phase is the fieldturf installation and I thought that some pics would be nice for UW.

  • Jordan Pope | April 10, 2008 at 12:13 am |

    working links
    Day 1

    Day 3

    Day 5

  • Loren | April 10, 2008 at 12:22 am |

    I’m a huge Texas Rangers fan. And it bugs me to no end that they never wear the Red “T” cap anymore. They still sale the Red “T” cap at all the Ballpark merchandise shops. The gift shop employees even call it the Road Cap. I personally perfer the Red “T” cap over the White “T” cap. The Red “T” cap would be much better looking with the Road jerseys that the Rangers wear. I have both caps in my posession. I reach for the Red T cap more often than I reach for the White T cap.

    As far as the report about the Red cap with a Blue “T”, I never have heard about that cap. I didnot know about that being an authenitc game hat. I don’t think I would have liked that as a game cap. If that was supposed to be a “Road” cap, I don’t think it would have worked out right. It would have clashed , I think. It would not have worked out the same was the White “T” on the Red Cap.

  • Andrew Bolte | April 10, 2008 at 12:30 am |

    RE: Leo Nunez’ glove:

    If you look closely at this photo from August 2007, you can see the same EL CD embroidering on his pitcher’s glove. No idea what it stands for, although some Royals boards have their theories (“El Cid” being the most popular).

  • =bg= | April 10, 2008 at 12:33 am |

    I think there should be one home, one road, one BP, and one alt. And the alt can ONLY be worn on holidays. Or maybe 1x per week, say Sundays.

    One road cap. One home cap. One BP cap.

    Most teams now wear the alts ALL time time.
    The Giants, tho- have no alt.

  • Andrew Bolte | April 10, 2008 at 12:54 am |

    Another theory on the EL CD on Leo Nunez’ glove, and this one seems to have some credence: El Chico Delgado, or “the skinny boy”. Makes sense as Leo weighed in at around 165 pounds when he broke into the big leagues in 2005.

  • C-Dublin | April 10, 2008 at 1:08 am |

    What was with Ray Emory’s boring all black mask? Does he always wear that?

  • Josh Petty | April 10, 2008 at 1:46 am |

    [quote comment=”250281″]What was with Ray Emory’s boring all black mask? Does he always wear that?[/quote]

    That wasn’t Ray Emery, it was Martin Gerber

  • Brendan | April 10, 2008 at 4:38 am |

    Like their black alternates, the A’s green alternates don’t have the 40th Anniversary patch. I haven’t been able to find a picture of the road grays yet, so no word on them.

  • Brendan | April 10, 2008 at 4:50 am |

    [quote comment=”250304″]Like their black alternates, the A’s green alternates don’t have the 40th Anniversary patch. I haven’t been able to find a picture of the road grays yet, so no word on them.[/quote]

    I found out why: They haven’t been worn yet. And, as previously mentioned: Alternate vs. Alternate

  • MPowers1634 | April 10, 2008 at 8:16 am |

    [quote comment=”250275″]I think there should be one home, one road, one BP, and one alt. And the alt can ONLY be worn on holidays. Or maybe 1x per week, say Sundays.

    One road cap. One home cap. One BP cap.

    Most teams now wear the alts ALL time time.
    The Giants, tho- have no alt.[/quote]

    Isnt the black on black, with the indistinguishable numbers their alt?

  • MPowers1634 | April 10, 2008 at 8:20 am |

    [quote comment=”250270″]working links
    Day 1

    Day 3

    Day 5[/quote]

    Are you still in HS, Jordan? And what school and where?

    The High School that my children will go to put in FT two years ago. OMG is it beautiful to run around on!

  • Kek | April 10, 2008 at 8:26 am |

    [quote comment=”250216″][quote comment=”250113″]It’s amazing to me that this blog’s author and many of those that post, thought the breast cancer thing with pink bats was gimmicky yet feel that every player wearing the same number is OK!?!?[/quote]

    Breast cancer, while a very worthy cause, has nothing to do with baseball — that’s why I think the pink bats (and ribbons, and wristbands…) are gimmicky. Jackie Robinson, meanwhile, has everything to do with baseball. It’s not a gimmick — it’s honoring your sport’s heritage.[/quote]
    Fair enough, but then where do you draw the line? There are a lot of other big stories in the sport’s history. Should they all have tributes with identical uni numbers?

    In my opinion, Jackie Robinson is a tremendous part of baseball’s history and heritage but why not do more things to educate people that although Robinson broke the color barrier, there were hundreds if not thousands of players that were never able to play in the big leagues. Jackie was an important part of this civil rights struggle but what about guys like Josh Gibson and Buck O’Neill that never got a chance and toiled in the Negro Leagues?

    back to one of my previous posts, MLB should do more in the education department. Make books like Invisible Men and Only the Ball was White suggested reading in clubhouses. Do more heritage games with more than just cool throwbacks, make fans aware of who these guys were. I know things like this are done already, but do more.

    That would honor the sport’s heritage more than everyone wearing #42.

    Just one guy’s opinion…

  • Jordan Pope | April 10, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”250338″][quote comment=”250270″]working links
    Day 1

    Day 3

    Day 5[/quote]

    Are you still in HS, Jordan? And what school and where?

    The High School that my children will go to put in FT two years ago. OMG is it beautiful to run around on![/quote]

    Yes I am. A Freshman.
    And my high school is Moses Lake High School in Moses Lake, WA

  • jake deming | April 28, 2008 at 11:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”250114″][quote comment=”250105″]Notice that Joe Girardi is choosing not to wear the Joe Torre style satin Yankee jacket while in the dugout. Instead, opting for the standard-issue Majestic style used by all teams this year.[/quote]

    Did the Yankees have an exception from MLB to wear those? Because I recall not only Torre but his staff (some of them anyway) wearing the satin jackets as well. If I recall correctly, during the Torre era I think that satin jacket was the only one offered on MLB’s website, unlike the other teams that had the standard-issue Majestic jackets.

    Not that I’m complaining; I may be a Mets fan, but that was such a classy look and made it so that, no matter what era, be it 70’s, 80’s or 90’s, the Yankees had a uniform look to them.[/quote]

    i am really mad that the yankees arent wearing the satin jackets anymore! they were the best looking jackets in baseball, and mlb looked like they were starting to make the satin jackets for other teams as well.

    does anyone know if they are going to wear the satin yankees jackets again?